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| 00:28.38 | AstainHellbring | http://gizmodo.com/5039741/t+mobile-android-htc-dream-launch-details-oct-13-199-w-2+year-contract-only |
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| 00:43.19 | dcordes | ginge: still around? |
| 00:43.30 | ginge | barely |
| 00:43.48 | dcordes | ginge: could you look up the fbsize you used to get Xfbdev fun in lizzard? |
| 00:45.20 | ginge | #define MSM_FB_SIZE 0x56000 |
| 00:45.33 | dcordes | thx |
| 00:49.06 | ginge | night |
| 00:49.11 | dcordes | I tried #define MSM_FB_SIZE0x5dc00 before and it didn't work |
| 00:49.12 | dcordes | night |
| 00:58.42 | dcordes | tmzt_mp900c_: did you get your Xfbdev on debian problem sorted? |
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| 01:26.13 | tmzt_mp900c_ | not yet, stuck on automake |
| 01:26.31 | tmzt_mp900c_ | got to remove the dependency on mesa/gl |
| 01:28.15 | dcordes | tmzt_mp900c_: ok, the fbsize ginge sets on kaiser also makes Xfbdev work for me |
| 01:28.30 | dcordes | it starts now everytime (no more black screen/half draw/underscore problems) |
| 01:30.22 | dcordes | I'm trying to get an fso image built |
| 01:30.34 | marajin | dcordes: good luck with /that/ :p |
| 01:31.10 | dcordes | it's a quite fast moving target |
| 01:31.32 | dcordes | so one has to live with a few bugs |
| 01:40.34 | marajin | heh |
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| 02:05.54 | marajin | .. |
| 02:05.59 | marajin | Now I'm furious with creative |
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| 02:10.57 | tmzt_mp900c_ | dcordes: have you got the touchscreen working, I see that X works now |
| 02:11.27 | tmzt_mp900c_ | I should have but a ssh server on this qemu instance before, it did have an ip |
| 02:12.18 | marajin | would anyone mind terribly if I shot everyone working at Creative? |
| 02:21.08 | dcordes | tmzt_mp900c_: doesn't look like it |
| 02:21.24 | dcordes | tmzt_mp900c_: so at least it was not the cursor pixmap not being redrawn. |
| 02:21.52 | dcordes | marajin: not me |
| 02:30.24 | marajin | dcordes: They wont give me any driver for my soundcard now except vista |
| 02:30.26 | marajin | not even WinXP |
| 02:31.44 | dcordes | then why don't you install vista? |
| 02:34.20 | dcordes | you must go with the market |
| 02:35.52 | dcordes | looting binux |
| 02:38.07 | tmzt_mp900c_ | hows the fso build going, are you using oe or debian? |
| 02:44.08 | dcordes | OE |
| 02:44.22 | dcordes | 1854 of 4034 |
| 02:44.36 | dcordes | I'm doing a complete build with gui first |
| 02:44.43 | dcordes | then make fso-console-image |
| 02:46.43 | marajin | heh |
| 02:46.51 | marajin | I think it'll fail with pygobject |
| 02:46.53 | marajin | it usually does |
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| 02:51.31 | dcordes | don't summon it |
| 02:51.55 | dcordes | it already went half-way from scratch without any errors |
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| 02:58.13 | dcordes | tmzt_mp900c_: I was too fast with the statement Xfbdev would work. trying it repeatedly revealed I only had luck the first time I tried |
| 03:02.10 | dcordes | the image ginge tried must have a different Xfbdev |
| 03:10.24 | marajin | dcordes: Looks liiike it'll fail on openmoko terminal this time |
| 03:12.16 | tmzt_mp900c_ | hey kring, figure anything new out? |
| 03:12.40 | marajin | dcordes: does on perses anyway |
| 03:12.55 | marajin | dcordes: I'll try fso-console-image |
| 03:13.31 | dcordes | ok |
| 03:13.59 | marajin | openmoko terminal's been broken for days, not sure when they'll fix that, wondering if it's important though, may skip the package |
| 03:15.22 | dcordes | remove openmoko-terminal2 \ |
| 03:15.33 | dcordes | from packages/images/fso-image.bb |
| 03:15.47 | marajin | yeah I know what to do I just haven't tried yet |
| 03:16.05 | marajin | fso-console image is doing well |
| 03:16.07 | marajin | 2560 of 3067 |
| 03:18.07 | tmzt_mp900c_ | your not using fso-unstable? |
| 03:18.33 | tmzt_mp900c_ | it might still be broken with the git revs though |
| 03:18.42 | dcordes | tmzt_mp900c_: it pulls frameworkd from git |
| 03:26.48 | kring | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:27.35 | kring | I am trying understand how to dynamicly invoke gps, by reading gpsid driver. |
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| 03:31.30 | tmzt_mp900c_ | that's a wm driver? |
| 03:34.08 | kring | yes. |
| 03:34.18 | kring | gpsid_qct.dll |
| 03:34.46 | kring | also including clues of agps |
| 03:35.34 | dcordes | kring: regarding agps, did you see the link to the moko wiki with agps sample code yesterday? |
| 03:37.57 | kring | dcordes: i am reading |
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| 04:28.24 | marajin | I think fso-console-image built |
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| 07:46.44 | marajin | ginge: 'lo |
| 07:46.54 | ginge | gmorning |
| 07:47.28 | marajin | ginge: I think your luck has passed to me |
| 07:48.08 | ginge | oh? whats going wrong? |
| 07:48.29 | marajin | ginge: My laptop blew up, the GPU melted |
| 07:49.10 | ginge | oh crap |
| 07:50.44 | marajin | yeah |
| 07:50.52 | marajin | another grand I won't see again in a hurry |
| 07:50.55 | marajin | sighs. |
| 07:59.24 | marajin | ginge: meh, so now I'm chainsmoking |
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| 08:55.54 | ginge | marajin: I guess you are out of warranty then? |
| 08:57.50 | marajin | yeah |
| 08:59.33 | marajin | ginge: It's 18 months old I think |
| 08:59.53 | marajin | I dunno why I buy laptops they always break |
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| 09:20.11 | marajin | wb there ginge |
| 09:21.07 | ginge | hello |
| 09:21.34 | marajin | so what're you up to for the day? |
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| 09:29.09 | ginge | marajin: well at the moment I am taking some training notes so we can train the new developers. |
| 09:29.47 | marajin | So you're bored senseless? |
| 09:33.47 | ginge | pretty much |
| 09:34.05 | ginge | doing htc some coding at the same time... keeping me sane |
| 09:34.35 | marajin | ginge: Industrial strength psychopharamacology couldn't keep you sane ;) |
| 09:35.16 | marajin | it's part of while I actually like you |
| 09:35.20 | ginge | muhahahas |
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| 11:12.55 | infernix | marajin: how do you get a GPU to melt? you're OCing it while playing crysis? |
| 11:21.50 | Espenfjo | my GPU melted when playing crysis. wasnt OCed |
| 11:22.42 | lama | does warranty cover playing of Crysis? |
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| 14:00.59 | reboot719 | hiya |
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| 17:21.59 | Maxro | Hi , could somebody say me , how i could use these images on my kaiser ? |
| 17:22.00 | Maxro | http://linuxtogo.org/~lgorris/images/ |
| 17:26.03 | ClashTheBunny | Maxro: Do you have a microSD card? |
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| 17:27.15 | ClashTheBunny | Which image do you want to use? |
| 17:27.55 | dcordes | Maxro: did you read README.txt? if not see Basic instructions in it |
| 17:29.32 | ClashTheBunny | Also, to use the images in that directory, you would need to either convert them to initrd images or set up a way to read the root off of the SD card like on http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/ |
| 17:30.15 | ClashTheBunny | Both are not too easy, and I think one has not been done. |
| 17:30.52 | dcordes | ClashTheBunny: what do you mean, need to convert them to initrd images? |
| 17:31.10 | dcordes | android.bin is initrd |
| 17:31.16 | ClashTheBunny | http://linuxtogo.org/~lgorris/images/ only contains rootfs.tar.gz images |
| 17:31.43 | Maxro | ClashTheBunny: yes i've got one |
| 17:32.01 | Maxro | dcordes: no , in this fpt folder there is'nt one |
| 17:32.20 | ClashTheBunny | http://linuxtogo.org/~lgorris/kaiser-bootkit/ is what contains android.bin and angstrom.bin. |
| 17:32.58 | Maxro | yes android works m but i want to run the openmoko root fs |
| 17:33.29 | dcordes | oh right, sorry. |
| 17:33.40 | ClashTheBunny | yeah, and that's why you would either need to set it up so that it actually mounts from the SD card or converting it to an initrd image |
| 17:33.53 | dcordes | Maxro: you need an sd card to boot images > 20M |
| 17:33.56 | Maxro | okay thanks , i try my best ;) |
| 17:34.14 | ClashTheBunny | Good luck! |
| 17:34.18 | dcordes | Maxro: and on the sd card, you must format the _first_ partition to vfat |
| 17:34.29 | Maxro | dcordes: yes i've got on 1GB |
| 17:34.38 | dcordes | you put the haret.exe default.txt zImage onto this vfat partition |
| 17:35.21 | dcordes | then on the second partition you put an ext2 filesystem |
| 17:35.47 | dcordes | there you must extract the rootfs |
| 17:36.11 | dcordes | Maxro: but openmoko gui does not work (see README.txt userspace todo) |
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| 17:36.40 | dcordes | Maxro: to get online in console, you can use this rootfs http://linuxtogo.org/~lgorris/tgreer-special-sd-rootfs.tar.gz |
| 17:36.50 | Maxro | uhh ... pity |
| 17:38.07 | dcordes | also using the / on sd is not so stable because the driver has dma problems |
| 17:38.52 | Maxro | hmm ... okay , thanks. |
| 17:39.01 | dcordes | no problem |
| 17:39.26 | Maxro | is their any other Linux for kaiser.. |
| 17:39.40 | Maxro | i used google , but only found the android prot |
| 17:40.32 | Maxro | but the version on the xda froum crashes after 1-2 min and my kaiser reboots |
| 17:40.38 | Maxro | *forum |
| 17:40.46 | dcordes | Maxro: if you want a console pick the rootfs from the last link I pasted |
| 17:41.17 | dcordes | Maxro: hm yea android is not so stable. maybe dzo will make a new one with latest sdk |
| 17:41.21 | Maxro | okay , i'll try ;) |
| 17:41.50 | dcordes | Maxro: you can get online with ./ppp.sh apn user password in /home/root |
| 17:44.12 | Maxro | yeah , thanks but that's yust stuff i currently didn't understand ;) , i think first i should try to run the linux console ;) |
| 17:46.44 | dcordes | Maxro: I put a sample cmdline to boot from sd in default.txt |
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| 18:19.27 | marajin | 'lo dcordes |
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| 18:25.55 | marajin | dcordes: Did you get fso-image built? I got fso-console-image but not fso-image yet |
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| 18:46.03 | marajin | dcordes: also built fso-image-light bt |
| 18:46.04 | marajin | w |
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| 19:36.15 | marajin | dcordes: And now fso-image is built |
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| 20:05.41 | dcordes | yepyep all built. thx though |
| 20:06.06 | dcordes | tmzt_mp900c_: hey tmzt_mp900c_ |
| 20:06.27 | dcordes | ^^ did you get anywhere with the fso? |
| 20:14.56 | marajin | :D |
| 20:15.11 | marajin | a video about the raphael and the guy says the battery "provides 1350 million hours@ |
| 20:15.18 | marajin | that's a goooood battery |
| 20:15.46 | dcordes | I wonder when it will hit the german market. |
| 20:15.55 | marajin | you can already buy the touch pro |
| 20:15.59 | marajin | you mean the branded versions? |
| 20:17.38 | dcordes | well with contracts yea, not necessarily branded |
| 20:17.59 | marajin | already possible to get them in the UK |
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| 20:54.16 | marajin | 'lo ginge |
| 20:54.26 | ginge | hiya |
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| 20:59.10 | marajin | how goes? |
| 20:59.18 | tgreer | ack ok u? |
| 20:59.53 | marajin | was actually talking to ginge and you just logged in mid greeting :p |
| 20:59.59 | tgreer | damn lol |
| 21:00.00 | marajin | but I'm doing mostly ok |
| 21:00.01 | tgreer | o/ ginge |
| 21:00.03 | ginge | feels rough |
| 21:00.10 | marajin | still a bit meh after my laptop melting though |
| 21:00.37 | dcordes | did it actually melt or is it just to emphasize it went very hot? |
| 21:01.17 | ginge | I am guessing it melted. I had one that literally melted the plastic once/ |
| 21:01.33 | tgreer | heh |
| 21:01.46 | tgreer | i have a titanium case |
| 21:01.46 | tgreer | no melty for me |
| 21:01.59 | marajin | dcordes: well there's slight melting around the GPU |
| 21:02.04 | ginge | I tend to run my laptops 24/7 at near full cpu load |
| 21:02.08 | marajin | basically the GPU just toasted itself |
| 21:02.19 | ginge | will it boot? |
| 21:02.19 | dcordes | "pics or it didn't happen" |
| 21:02.26 | ginge | lol |
| 21:02.26 | ali1234 | they dont burn out, they just come unsoldered from the board :( |
| 21:02.34 | dcordes | I am going to get one of the atom eeepc |
| 21:02.37 | marajin | I wouldn't care but I wasn't even using the GPU heavily, I was burning a DVD |
| 21:02.38 | ginge | my USB chip burned out |
| 21:03.00 | ginge | but that was mostly my fault |
| 21:03.03 | ginge | well entirely |
| 21:03.28 | dcordes | you shorted something? |
| 21:03.36 | ginge | I put 24v into it |
| 21:03.42 | dcordes | oops |
| 21:03.45 | ginge | magic smoke escaped |
| 21:04.19 | dcordes | did it get you high? |
| 21:04.32 | ginge | I hit the roof if thats what you mean ;) |
| 21:04.53 | dcordes | I mean the magic smoke |
| 21:05.13 | ginge | I know, it was a bad joke. It means I was very very angry |
| 21:05.52 | dcordes | did it fry the complete usb including controller? |
| 21:06.19 | ginge | the chip has a hole in it and the traces running up to it are black and fried |
| 21:07.21 | marajin | epic boomsplodey |
| 21:07.31 | tgreer | hehe |
| 21:07.33 | marajin | I've shorted USB many a time but I've never put 24v up it that's for sure |
| 21:07.34 | tgreer | ebay for loose |
| 21:07.41 | tgreer | my bank account is dying lol |
| 21:08.50 | dcordes | I also shorted something usbish once. that was on my akita and I thought the poor puppy was dead |
| 21:11.04 | ginge | those motherboard designers are just cheap. A resettable fuse costs nothing |
| 21:21.37 | marajin | ginge: What you expect good design and durability from components when they can just make it break at the earliest opportunity so you buy another? |
| 21:22.14 | ginge | you are right and it 1) sucks 2) is wrong |
| 21:22.24 | dcordes | ~lart those motherboard designers for being cheap because they don't use resettable fuses, whatever those are |
| 21:22.24 | apt | takes out a cattle prod and gives those motherboard designers a good jolt for being cheap because they don't use resettable fuses, whatever those are |
| 21:22.55 | ginge | dcordes: like a fuse that blows when you pluf faulty stuff into your mains, but for smaller voltages |
| 21:23.04 | ginge | s/pluf/plug/ |
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| 21:47.28 | marajin | ginge: So, apart from fried USB controller chips for tea, 'sup ? :p |
| 21:48.10 | ginge | not much. The fried chips were my old laptop ages ago |
| 21:48.12 | marajin | more exactly, why be you feeling @rough@ |
| 21:48.27 | ginge | I have no idea why I feel #rough# |
| 21:48.28 | marajin | gah US layout, bad mac mini! bad! |
| 21:48.56 | ginge | you know how sometimes you just dont feel even 10% of normal |
| 21:49.10 | marajin | man, I have CFS, I feel like that permanently for the last 3 years |
| 21:49.23 | ginge | that much suck :( |
| 21:49.51 | ginge | s/much/must/ |
| 21:50.08 | marajin | the best I can liken it to is.. ya know how you feel when you've had insomnia and you've been up about 40-50 hours straight and caffeine's stopped working? |
| 21:51.16 | ginge | oh, dude, thats awful. I feel really sorry for you. |
| 21:51.28 | ginge | hmm. did wikipedia lose its stylesheet? |
| 21:51.32 | marajin | probably |
| 21:52.25 | marajin | ya know it's a pity the NHS are so prudish |
| 21:52.36 | marajin | I could have been prescribed amps otherwise.. |
| 21:52.38 | Espenfjo | grumpf.. the FB code works perfect before the preloader |
| 21:54.08 | ginge | amps? |
| 21:55.34 | marajin | Amphetamines |
| 21:55.50 | ginge | ahh |
| 21:56.22 | marajin | in theory they'd be a symptom alleviator |
| 22:00.13 | dcordes | somebody tried to add a key combination for chvt? |
| 22:00.35 | dcordes | it's annoying to softreset because we are stuck on one console |
| 22:01.38 | dcordes | puh das braucht locker 2 minuten zum booten |
| 22:03.16 | dcordes | :P |
| 22:04.06 | ginge | consider yourself lucky. Mine takes 4 minutes and 37 seconds to get to a usable state |
| 22:04.37 | dcordes | your fso-image? |
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| 22:05.04 | ginge | just wm |
| 22:48.51 | patoche | Espenfjo: around ? |
| 22:48.56 | Espenfjo | yeah |
| 22:49.09 | dcordes | ginge: still around? |
| 22:49.18 | ginge | yeah |
| 22:49.24 | patoche | Espenfjo: you say in forum that you see once the "PSR" message from preloader ? |
| 22:49.34 | Espenfjo | yeah |
| 22:49.42 | dcordes | ginge: do you know the problem when cat /dev/smd0 doesn't print anything? |
| 22:49.51 | patoche | ooh i never see it :( |
| 22:49.57 | Espenfjo | :P |
| 22:49.59 | dcordes | shouldn't one in every case see the signal quality? |
| 22:50.06 | ginge | dcordes: no, didn't knowt he problem existed |
| 22:50.08 | patoche | Espenfjo: with wich haret ? |
| 22:50.29 | dcordes | ginge: ppp.sh went fine so smd0 listens but it doesn't print stuff |
| 22:50.40 | ginge | is ppp working? |
| 22:50.48 | dcordes | ye |
| 22:50.57 | Espenfjo | patoche: with cvs build i think |
| 22:51.09 | ginge | are you on .25? |
| 22:51.17 | dcordes | no htc-msm |
| 22:51.26 | ginge | no idea |
| 22:51.30 | patoche | Espenfjo: what is the "machine" detected with your haret ? |
| 22:51.52 | Espenfjo | Now its kaiser, but previous it was generic armv6 |
| 22:52.34 | dcordes | ginge: what's your preferred way to talk to the modem? |
| 22:52.48 | patoche | Espenfjo: so you have changed machlist.txt ? |
| 22:52.56 | ginge | through a cup and some string |
| 22:53.09 | Espenfjo | patoche: yeah |
| 22:53.15 | ginge | dcordes: in reality I dont bother |
| 22:53.18 | dcordes | I'll try miniterm |
| 22:54.28 | patoche | Espenfjo: i have tried that but that's changed nothing for me |
| 22:54.47 | dcordes | minicom |
| 22:54.53 | Espenfjo | nothing changed as in still generic detected, or same problems? |
| 22:54.55 | patoche | Espenfjo: perhaps we need some code on shutdownHardware |
| 22:55.04 | Espenfjo | yeah, maybe |
| 22:56.16 | patoche | Espenfjo: in fact i dont know :/ sram and mmu are things that i dont understand well |
| 22:56.35 | Espenfjo | same here |
| 22:56.45 | patoche | Espenfjo: hum you have forced the physFB too to have fb_printf working ? |
| 22:57.11 | Espenfjo | no |
| 22:57.38 | Espenfjo | Still use the autodetected values, tho i have tried forcing it to 0x1666a000 |
| 22:59.22 | patoche | Espenfjo: you have message on FB each time you try to boot ? |
| 22:59.47 | Espenfjo | I have get the messages before the trampoline, yeah |
| 23:00.54 | patoche | Espenfjo: so we are lost at the same point |
| 23:00.58 | Espenfjo | yeah |
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| 23:31.45 | dcordes | to communicate with kaiser smd0, use minicom -s, set device to /dev/smd0, turn flow control off, and use 38400 baud. it worked very well for me. |
| 23:34.19 | ginge | oh nice tip :) |
| 23:34.31 | ginge | you should put that in the bootkit |
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