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| 08:14.14 | BabelO_ | morning |
| 08:14.29 | kiozen | ola |
| 08:14.49 | kiozen | BabelO_: you wanted something yesterday? |
| 08:15.19 | BabelO_ | kiozen: not really, just to tell you that knetworkmanager is a pain |
| 08:15.51 | kiozen | BabelO_: don't have to tell me :) |
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| 08:21.30 | BabelO_ | kiozen: on the eeepc with suse 11.0 , i modify a little driver and get hotkey working |
| 08:21.53 | kiozen | BabelO_: you hacker you ;) |
| 08:21.55 | BabelO_ | kiozen: wifi works with ndiswrapper as i don't understand how ralink rt2860sta driver works :) |
| 08:22.22 | kiozen | uhh tainted kernel !!red allert!! |
| 08:25.51 | BabelO_ | ans after power on / off of the wifi come up, knetwork see my network but don't want to reconnect to it, have to get the knetwork sources :) |
| 08:27.12 | kiozen | I lived quite well with the tratitional method, except that they replaced the working non-gpl driver with a non-working gpl driver :/ |
| 08:28.23 | kiozen | but hey, people even sacrifice their life for religions :( |
| 08:29.23 | BabelO_ | kiozen: ndiswrapper works well, it is impressive |
| 08:29.50 | kiozen | yes, but it's not wanted |
| 08:30.00 | BabelO_ | kiozen: i give another try to the native ralink driver :) but i create a ra0 device and networkmanager did not know it |
| 08:30.16 | kiozen | there is a hiddeous discussion on ther kernel list about it |
| 08:31.22 | kiozen | for some time ndiswrapper was even shut out the kernel |
| 08:31.57 | kiozen | but after realizing that this would turn off half of the linux users they allowed it again |
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| 08:33.11 | kiozen | I am using linux now for ~10 years, half of the time network was working great, half of the time it does not, switching on a yearly base :/ |
| 08:33.51 | kiozen | it's hard to mock up yourself about windows if this is happening |
| 08:56.22 | BabelO_ | kiozen: same than you, each time i modify the driver to work like i want. But this time, there is two driver. ndis and a native. hope one of them works well in my case |
| 09:12.09 | miknix | BabelO, I use ndiswrapper in two different wifi cards and it works very nice |
| 09:12.32 | miknix | one is a boradcom BCM94311MCG |
| 09:12.51 | miknix | the other was a Inprocomm 2220 |
| 09:13.34 | miknix | the wifi switch also works |
| 09:14.02 | BabelO_ | miknix: it works very well for me too, but on first start, if i shutdown the card, i can get it back a second time |
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| 10:32.22 | ALoGeNo | goxboxlive: morning are you there? |
| 10:32.46 | ALoGeNo | only a quick question :) |
| 10:33.16 | ALoGeNo | 12:30 : ALoGeNo ¦ i need to know how much mA eat the universal in empty |
| 10:33.16 | ALoGeNo | 12:31 : ALoGeNo ¦ i have 146mA with out phone, only activesync |
| 10:33.16 | ALoGeNo | 12:31 : ALoGeNo ¦ that is ok? |
| 10:35.45 | goxboxlive | ALoGeNo: i have no idea. I have never measured the current |
| 10:36.43 | ALoGeNo | oh okey, i measured that with HomeScreen PlusPlus |
| 10:37.31 | ALoGeNo | the hermes tell me that eat 60mA, phone ON |
| 10:38.02 | ALoGeNo | and the uni without phone or whaterver, 1XXmA |
| 10:38.18 | ALoGeNo | i think that can be the RADIO? |
| 10:38.32 | ALoGeNo | wich radio have you put in on? |
| 10:39.16 | ALoGeNo | i have 1.18 radio what version my recomend you? |
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| 11:33.49 | dcordes | dzo gave some interesting hints on the diamond boot problem: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=402002&page=14 |
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| 11:34.45 | swetland | dcordes: actually they can do IO with the mmu off |
| 11:34.57 | dcordes | Espenfjo, if you didn't see it yet, you might look at it. unlike you were assuming, he says it is more likely to be a problem in the kernel code |
| 11:35.21 | swetland | but you have to setup the periperhal window correctly |
| 11:35.47 | dcordes | hm what's that? |
| 11:36.10 | swetland | arm11 has sort of an alternate bus for peripherals |
| 11:36.25 | swetland | which can be accessed by setting the right bits in the PTEs (with MMU on) |
| 11:36.36 | swetland | or configuring a range of address space for it (with MMU off) |
| 11:37.33 | swetland | periph_2gb_open: /* open the peripheral port 2gb */ /* see 1136trm 3-164 */ ldr r0, =0x80000016 mcr p15, 0, r0, c15, c2, 4 bx lr |
| 11:37.40 | swetland | kicks irssi |
| 11:37.54 | dcordes | no clue what are PTEs either. maybe I should put that info in the forum |
| 11:38.00 | swetland | imagine there are some linebreaks in there ^^ |
| 11:38.03 | swetland | page table entries |
| 11:39.18 | Espenfjo | hmm, yeah, ok |
| 11:39.31 | Espenfjo | Sadly the MMU stuff is way out of my league :\ |
| 11:40.09 | dcordes | Espenfjo, you understood what dzo said further? (because I have no clue :'( )maybe we should pass that info to premy and dzo |
| 11:40.32 | dcordes | I mean what swetland just said.. sorry |
| 11:41.18 | Espenfjo | No, not really :) |
| 11:41.50 | Espenfjo | or.. well.. somewhat.. but no clue how to address those issues |
| 11:42.08 | swetland | feel free to repost. if their issue is peripheral access when the mmu is off, the above snippet should do the trick. |
| 11:42.33 | swetland | of course the kernel should be turning the mmu on first thing |
| 11:47.39 | dcordes | I sent premy a mail with log |
| 12:04.15 | dcordes | later |
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| 12:26.22 | binutils | hi all! I have the Artemis HTC smartphone... I was wondering if there is a way to sync this whith my linux box (I use evolution, but I don't mind using another app) |
| 12:38.17 | Espenfjo | look into opensync and synce |
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| 12:50.59 | BabelO_ | and usb-rndis-lite driver |
| 12:53.56 | binutils | there is a opensync plugin for evolution |
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| 16:14.15 | lama | http://www.cyriak.co.uk/lhc/lhc-webcams.html |
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| 16:44.50 | ALoGeNo | anyone with MP900c? |
| 16:45.37 | ALoGeNo | i have a hard reset after reboot linux in my 900c |
| 16:45.41 | ALoGeNo | that is normal? |
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| 18:34.42 | dcordes | lama, nice one :) |
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| 19:44.37 | kaiserscotland | hello |
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| 19:48.24 | kaiserscotland | any new dev's ? |
| 19:52.56 | kaiserscotland | hello |
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| 19:57.49 | naf | what's the update on android for vogue? |
| 19:58.08 | kaiserscotland | *checks xda dev* |
| 19:58.53 | kaiserscotland | was there ever any talk of it ? |
| 19:59.08 | naf | I'm on it. Is that the most up to date? |
| 19:59.29 | kaiserscotland | yh shld b |
| 19:59.31 | kaiserscotland | getting to it |
| 19:59.35 | kaiserscotland | wen wos it last updated? |
| 19:59.51 | naf | Don't know, the download is Aug 24-ish |
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| 20:00.57 | kaiserscotland | cant find anything else |
| 20:01.05 | kaiserscotland | *i cnt |
| 20:01.10 | naf | what? |
| 20:01.29 | kaiserscotland | nvm lol. as in any other threads/updates |
| 20:02.04 | kaiserscotland | not dl'ed it wot files does it come with ? |
| 20:02.27 | naf | Sorry, I'm not familiar with all the abbreviations used in chat etc. |
| 20:02.35 | kaiserscotland | kk |
| 20:02.47 | kaiserscotland | adn im jsut lazy ;) |
| 20:03.08 | naf | I have it working on my phone, I just want to know what the next update would be |
| 20:03.24 | kaiserscotland | soz ive only used/followed the kasier dev |
| 20:03.32 | kaiserscotland | wot functionality does ti have /. |
| 20:03.36 | kaiserscotland | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:03.56 | naf | It runs and sends/receives calls, no SMS, I don't have a data plan but supposedly it works fully including maps. |
| 20:04.15 | ALoGeNo | hi, only a question please.. |
| 20:04.17 | naf | It's .9 beta so it's very neat but not a full OS |
| 20:04.24 | ALoGeNo | 22:02 : ALoGeNo ¦ what i need to install debian in the mp900c armel or arm distro? |
| 20:04.24 | ALoGeNo | 22:03 : ALoGeNo ¦ armel for the uni and arm for the mp900c or armel for both? |
| 20:04.25 | kaiserscotland | jsut a bootloader? |
| 20:05.00 | kaiserscotland | soz alfeno. ive not one outside of qualcomm's in relation to android |
| 20:05.12 | kaiserscotland | *alogeno |
| 20:05.54 | ALoGeNo | what do you mean? |
| 20:07.18 | kaiserscotland | -.-soz |
| 20:07.29 | kaiserscotland | i talk only ov the android. |
| 20:08.06 | naf | Sorry. What did you mean? |
| 20:08.14 | kaiserscotland | i know sum ppl that should be on soon that use debian tho |
| 20:08.37 | kaiserscotland | the only answer i can give to your question at the moment is... |
| 20:08.42 | kaiserscotland | 42 |
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| 20:12.51 | dcordes | that was confusing |
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| 20:17.11 | dcordes | BabelO_, are you happy with 1000h? |
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| 20:18.21 | BabelO_ | dcordes: now yes :) just writting a small qt4 trayicon to power on / off webcam / bt / wifi :) |
| 20:18.43 | BabelO_ | dcordes: currently on it right now |
| 20:18.45 | dcordes | now that it has suse :) ? |
| 20:18.57 | BabelO_ | dcordes: got wifi working with gpl ralink driver |
| 20:19.10 | BabelO_ | dcordes: opensuse 11.0 with kde 4.1 |
| 20:19.28 | dcordes | no atheros any more? |
| 20:19.46 | BabelO_ | dcordes: atheros wired lan is ok too |
| 20:20.01 | dcordes | I had one early model which had atheros wifi (new chip that doesn't work with madwifi) |
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| 20:20.15 | dcordes | can you give me an lspci and lsusb? |
| 20:20.30 | BabelO_ | dcordes: yes |
| 20:22.02 | BabelO_ | dcordes: http://pastebin.ca/1200387 |
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| 20:22.19 | BabelO_ | dcordes: attansic is for wired lan |
| 20:22.53 | dcordes | thanks. attansic wired was also in the old one |
| 20:22.58 | dcordes | 700 series |
| 20:23.22 | BabelO_ | dcordes: don-t know but it need a separate driver |
| 20:23.34 | BabelO_ | dcordes: driver is only in 2.6.27 native |
| 20:24.10 | BabelO_ | dcordes: i do network install with uNetbootin and suse factory, then from suse factory boot i choose 11.0 repository |
| 20:24.25 | BabelO_ | take around 2:30 hours to install over internet |
| 20:25.43 | dcordes | I will borrow an external cd drive from my brother |
| 20:26.04 | dcordes | need to find some money first, anyway |
| 20:26.15 | dcordes | wifi works with rt2x00? |
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| 20:27.37 | BabelO_ | dcordes: with native rt2860sta driver |
| 20:28.30 | BabelO_ | dcordes: only thing remaining is the big font on kde3 app .. and the suspend to ram or disk feature |
| 20:29.19 | dcordes | is that not supported with the suse kernel or do you use a custom kernel? |
| 20:29.46 | BabelO_ | dcordes: not in suse kernel,i download separate driver to compile |
| 20:30.00 | BabelO_ | dcordes: anyway i have compiz working fine and fast |
| 20:30.19 | dcordes | doesn't it kill the battery fast? |
| 20:32.05 | BabelO_ | dcordes: it looks ok forr now 4 hours of battery, can get better battery if i shutdown wifi and to some custom cache setup for disk |
| 20:46.34 | NetRipper | is anyone actually trying to get a kernel to boot on htc raphael yet? |
| 20:51.46 | BabelO_ | dcordes: suspend to ram works :) |
| 20:52.53 | dcordes | BabelO, nice |
| 20:53.27 | dcordes | NetRipper, no but I bet it's the same deal like diamond |
| 20:53.37 | NetRipper | yes probably |
| 20:54.10 | NetRipper | do you mean that there's someone busy on the diamond or that there are big issues for the moment? (or that people are mostly waiting for the htc dream to come out first) |
| 20:55.42 | dcordes | NetRipper, see talks about it earlier or look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=402002&page=16 |
| 20:56.39 | NetRipper | thanks |
| 20:57.01 | dcordes | you need to get it booting first |
| 20:57.06 | NetRipper | yes |
| 20:57.32 | NetRipper | i tried getting a development environment like the one used for ovgue |
| 20:57.33 | NetRipper | vogue |
| 20:57.49 | NetRipper | but the patches on the vogue site don't match the revision string given there |
| 20:57.51 | dcordes | I think htc did it with thew new generation like bfore: kaiser/polaris are exactly the same except of input devices |
| 20:58.16 | NetRipper | the diamond/raphael have the same series of cpu, but it's just a little bit different |
| 20:58.18 | marbalon | NetRipper: hi, I'm going to boot linux on diamond to but without success for now |
| 20:58.20 | dcordes | you'd be better of with the halibut codebase |
| 20:58.30 | NetRipper | halibut? /me googles |
| 20:58.33 | dcordes | marbalon, hi, did you read the logs from earlier this day? |
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| 20:58.41 | marbalon | no... |
| 20:58.42 | NetRipper | marbalon, which repository are you using for your development |
| 20:58.52 | marbalon | gogole repository |
| 20:59.05 | dcordes | marbalon, you should. swetland gave some info on booting the diamond (with reference to the forum thread I posted above) |
| 20:59.08 | NetRipper | android-msm-2.6.25? |
| 20:59.22 | marbalon | NetRipper: yes |
| 21:00.10 | NetRipper | if its not too much trouble, could you send me your .config? |
| 21:00.46 | NetRipper | or on a pastebin or something ;) |
| 21:01.01 | marbalon | I can send you my kernel diff it contain .config too |
| 21:01.54 | NetRipper | ok a patch on the latest revision? |
| 21:02.11 | marbalon | yes |
| 21:02.18 | marbalon | http://baliniak.pl/~balon/android/diamond/diamond.diff |
| 21:02.27 | NetRipper | thanks |
| 21:02.39 | dcordes | lurks in the diff |
| 21:02.46 | NetRipper | and erm, you mentioned using google repos, but i was confused with git.android.com |
| 21:02.51 | NetRipper | what is the google repos? |
| 21:02.56 | NetRipper | or did you mean the android.com one |
| 21:03.44 | NetRipper | i.e. http://git.android.com |
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| 21:03.50 | marbalon | NetRipper: I just download lastest snapshot |
| 21:03.58 | dcordes | marbalon, what do you do in the framebuffer code? |
| 21:04.30 | marbalon | http://git.android.com/?p=linux-msm.git;a=snapshot;h=ea2e4fc53fec9008be4572fe5fa887181ddf3fef;sf=tgz |
| 21:04.53 | marbalon | I have no success till now :( |
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| 21:06.58 | dcordes | marbalon, you've got mail |
| 21:07.07 | tgreer | hey dcordes |
| 21:07.19 | marbalon | dcordes: yes marcin@baliniak.pl |
| 21:07.34 | dcordes | marbalon, no I already sent |
| 21:07.37 | dcordes | it was the AOL sound |
| 21:07.47 | tgreer | haha |
| 21:07.55 | tgreer | Faol |
| 21:07.59 | dcordes | hi there |
| 21:08.08 | tgreer | hows things? |
| 21:08.13 | tgreer | we're still here (damn LHC) |
| 21:08.16 | marbalon | dcordes: reading.... |
| 21:08.57 | NetRipper | lol you scared of it tgreer ? |
| 21:09.14 | dcordes | <lama> http://www.cyriak.co.uk/lhc/lhc-webcams.html |
| 21:09.22 | tgreer | na not really... was hoping it was going to swollow me up so i didnt have to see my exam reults |
| 21:09.26 | tgreer | seen it already dcors :) |
| 21:09.30 | tgreer | *dcordes |
| 21:09.35 | NetRipper | tgreer, lol |
| 21:10.14 | tgreer | NetRipper: I failed... I'm outa uni now :( |
| 21:10.41 | NetRipper | well done |
| 21:11.19 | dcordes | tgreer, :( what did you study? |
| 21:11.38 | tgreer | Computer and Electronic Systems |
| 21:12.10 | tgreer | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REQRHdMRimw |
| 21:13.56 | NetRipper | lol @ the end |
| 21:14.52 | dcordes | hahaha nice |
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| 21:21.56 | dcordes | now I'm stuck looking at funny videos of cats |
| 21:27.15 | NetRipper | lol |
| 21:33.54 | dcordes | good night |
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| 21:49.35 | marbalon | there is any haret guru ? I need to understand how haret really works... |
| 21:50.53 | marbalon | it loads kernel/initrd image to ram and boot form ram but how it is possible without reseting CPU etc. |
| 21:52.29 | NetRipper | i dont know much about it either, but as far as i understood the main magic with it is the trampoline |
| 21:52.55 | NetRipper | the MMU is disabled, then linux is attempted to be called |
| 21:53.06 | NetRipper | which has to re-enable the MMU again |
| 21:53.15 | NetRipper | not sure if im correct on this though |
| 21:53.24 | NetRipper | or just quit.. |
| 21:53.35 | NetRipper | i was really trying though.. :P |
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| 21:55.19 | NetRipper | marbalon, you got anythihng of what i said? |
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| 21:55.29 | marajin | allo allo allo |
| 21:55.39 | marbalon | yes on irclog |
| 21:55.44 | marbalon | PC reset :( |
| 21:55.47 | NetRipper | ah |
| 21:55.58 | NetRipper | allo mara |
| 21:56.32 | marbalon | hmm but I thought msm machines don't disable MMU |
| 21:56.51 | marbalon | in haret |
| 21:57.25 | marajin | marbalon: isn't that a vogue specific bug? |
| 21:58.19 | marbalon | hmm I thought all msm cpu's but I don't sure.... |
| 21:58.47 | marajin | I haven't spent any time with it so I dunno but I've only heard it specifically mentioned regarding the vogue |
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| 22:08.48 | NetRipper | not disabling the MMU is a workaround to make it easier |
| 22:08.50 | NetRipper | afaik |
| 22:09.34 | NetRipper | for when you dont know how to enable the MMU again, but im sure it has downsides |
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