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13:18.16dcordestmzt_, hey there, tried the new fso gui?
13:28.34kiozenBabelO: around?
13:29.06BabelOkiozen: yes
13:29.27BabelOkiozen: got my 1000h working perfect, compiling a qtopia x86 sdk to copy on it
13:29.40kiozendidn't you say that you used fat32 for the map partition of your friends M installation?
13:29.55BabelOkiozen: yes
13:30.32kiozenand did it work without changes?
13:31.12BabelOi just update M
13:31.31kiozenthe data path right?
13:32.10kiozenI am starting to write some installation docs http://www.qlandkarte.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=13&Itemid=14
13:32.54kiozenand wanted to make sure that one can use fat32 for the map partition, too
13:33.12kiozendon't wnat to mess with my installation
13:33.51BabelOkiozen: yes it is ok
13:34.02BabelOkiozen: i read the email about ozi
13:34.33kiozenyes, I had this discussion with cr2 before
13:34.40kiozenit's sad
13:35.18kiozenbut there is already enought problems with EADS and their GeoGrid format
13:35.48kiozenthey have cleaned out the last two sites documenting the format within the last 3 weeks
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13:36.17kiozenthe only thing that saves GT is that it only supports geotiff
13:36.26dcordesBabelO, do you notice the keypad being lose and making noises?
13:36.47BabelOdcordes: ?
13:36.52BabelOkiozen: i understand that :)
13:37.11kiozenhope this lad does too
13:37.12dcordesBabelO, I read an article about 1000H and they say the keyboard is not sitting tight
13:37.12BabelOdcordes: keypad noisy ?
13:37.29dcordesand makes noise while typing
13:38.01BabelOdcordes: less noise than my logitech keyboard
13:38.36dcordesok maybe they exaggerate
13:38.58lamaeee pc is pure marketing, atom also
13:39.16kiozenthere are too many journalists, and good news is no news
13:39.25lamait wassaid to be 200$
13:39.42BabelOdcordes: it is normal noise for me less than normal keyboard, but more than dell laptop
13:39.56lamanow it is crap notebbook for650$ with crap cpu
13:40.19BabelOlama: i m happy with the 1000h and opensuse on it, works perfect and faster enough, event the fan can be controled
13:40.45lamaimressive
13:40.48lamalol
13:41.13tsdogskiozen: why don't you use a rootfs image insthead of having all thoose partitions on the SD? this makes it easyer for users I think
13:41.16tsdogshi btw
13:41.26BabelOhi tsdogs
13:41.34tsdogshi BabelO
13:41.45BabelOlama: and i don't want a bigger laptop
13:41.50kiozentsdogs: hi, partition 2 is a rootfs
13:41.51lamaBabelO: there are c2d ulv dell notebooks close to eee pc price
13:42.01lamaand small
13:42.02dcordesBabelO, they said you can put a piece of kitchen paper towel under the keyboard to improve it
13:42.11dcordeslama, the battery life is killer
13:42.30dcordesit makes 6 hours how long does that dell make?
13:42.57lamayes ulv noteboks are better in battery life too:)
13:43.01lamabrb
13:43.19BabelOdcordes: just one thing is that the multitouch zoom function does not work in linux, i need to found a patch or an howto
13:43.44tsdogsBabelO: it has a touchscreen ?
13:43.55dcordesno touchpad
13:44.48tsdogsho, ok. I think it'd be much more usable to have it touchscreen too. The keyboard is too small (at least the 900 model was)
13:47.02kiozenyes and a screen you can flip around to cover the keypad.
13:47.56dcordestsdogs, I also find 900 keyboad horrible. 1000 is ok for me
13:48.07BabelOkiozen: GT need a user guide too :)
13:48.40tsdogs1000 is bigger, maybe usable :). I'm happy with my laptop.
13:48.54kiozenBabelO: I know, but it's a time and interest problem :)
14:21.16marajinyo
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14:24.44marajinkiozen: heh, the changes you describe to the eee would basically make it exactly what my Vye is.
14:25.06kiozenmarajin: or the OLPC ;)
14:25.23marajinthe OLPC has TS + reversable screen?
14:25.43kiozenmarajin: afaik no TS :(
14:25.48marajinah
14:25.51kiozenor ...?
14:26.04marajinI have TS, nipple mouse and trackpad.. it's a little crazy
14:26.06kiozenhm, you have to look at the spec, I am not sure
14:26.33marajinI also think I just ended up with a car o.o;
14:28.23kiozenaha...
14:28.42marajinwell, it's about time I got on the roads really.
14:30.52kiozencan't tell if that is a good or a bad thing :P
14:34.55marajinboth
14:35.03marajinit means I can travel places but I can't afford it
14:35.04marajinheh
14:35.16marajinhopefully the added travel will increase my potential income though
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15:36.15ALoGeNohey you
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16:05.08marajin'lo ali1234
16:05.11marajin'lo ali1234
16:05.14marajingah
16:05.17marajindamn tab autocomplete ;)
16:05.20marajin'lo ALoGeNo
16:05.43ALoGeNolo marajin :)
16:10.00ali1234hello
16:12.29marajincar prices are really suffering eh?
16:12.30marajinheh
16:12.49marajinPicking up a basically brand new car for 4500 is just silly
16:12.51ALoGeNocar prices is for the richman only ;)
16:12.56ALoGeNohi ali1234
16:13.12marajinALoGeNo: yeah, this is probably going to ruin me but hey..
16:13.26ALoGeNohehe :)
16:13.44ALoGeNobuy you a car that works with lectricity hah :D
16:13.55ALoGeNothe oil is over right now x)
16:14.12ALoGeNoelectricity*
16:14.30ALoGeNoor whatever hehe
16:14.58ALoGeNoj/k
16:15.17ALoGeNo4500 what uss dollars?
16:15.24ALoGeNou.s.*
16:16.22marajinnah pounds
16:16.33marajina new car for 4500 dollars would be made out of plastic and pedal powered
16:16.40ALoGeNohahahahaha
16:16.42ALoGeNolol
16:17.16ali1234considering what you actually get, and how much it will be worth in 5 years, 4500 is a total rip off in my opinion
16:17.20ALoGeNoyou go buy a remote controlled car? heh
16:17.59marajinali1234: put it this way.. it's better than the 7-8 grand it'd cost a coupla years back
16:18.50ali1234if you had bought it 2 years ago it would be worth less than 4500 by now
16:19.04marajinkinda my point mate
16:19.10marajinit's still going to be worth naff all in 5 years
16:19.22marajinso the fact that it's nearing half the purchase price..
16:19.37ALoGeNodont wanna think in the fucking money.. ;)
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16:22.40marajinALoGeNo: Seriously I know the feeling but I must be able to travel to do my work and make money
16:23.02ALoGeNoyeah sure dont worry about marajin :)
16:23.54ALoGeNo4500 pounds are 5000 eur more or less no?
16:24.16ALoGeNois very cheap for a new car
16:24.46ALoGeNois a little car, right?
16:26.57marajinALoGeNo: yeah.. 1.3 litre engine
16:27.04marajin3 doors
16:27.16marajinI wanted a cheap to run car too.
16:27.37marajingets 40-some mpg generally.. close to 60 on long journeys
16:27.42marajinand tax/insurance is cheap
16:27.45ALoGeNoaha.. and the trademark? (sorry my english :P)
16:28.05marajinit's a Ford
16:28.07ALoGeNoyou cant get the train to go work no?
16:28.13marajinwell no
16:28.23marajintrains don't generally go to offices and houses.
16:28.28marajinThey're more for like... travelling between cities
16:28.46ALoGeNoaha, very cheap for to be ford
16:28.58SanMehatmorning
16:29.00marajinBritish market is very aggressive on car price at the moment
16:29.04marajinnobody is buying cars
16:29.07marajinso they sell them very cheap
16:29.10ALoGeNooh, i see, and metro?
16:29.23marajincars that cost 7000-8000 now only cost 4000-5000
16:29.38marajinmetro?
16:29.46ALoGeNoyeah.,. the car makers are fucking stolers
16:29.50marajinoh you mean metro tram service and underground?
16:29.56ALoGeNoor whatever ;)
16:30.03ALoGeNoyes :)
16:30.03marajinwe have none in this town
16:30.07marajinwe don't even have buses really
16:30.15marajinthe nearest bus stop to my house is over a mile away
16:30.17ALoGeNooh
16:30.44ALoGeNois a nice walk..
16:31.28ALoGeNoand later, you spend more time sure..
16:31.49ALoGeNothink that need to leran more english heh :)
16:32.03ALoGeNolearn*
16:33.26marajinALoGeNo: I have an illness. Walking 1 mile is the absolute max I can do currently
16:33.38marajinALoGeNo: It's sad because before I got ill I walked up to 12 miles every day
16:33.59ALoGeNowow :O
16:34.44marajinheh
16:35.09ALoGeNoyou really need this car, of course :)
16:35.22marajinyeah
16:35.52ALoGeNowell and less CC = less gasoline hehe
16:36.28ALoGeNolooking at the gasoline's price 1,3L its very well
16:37.11ALoGeNoand how you are of parking?
16:37.13ALoGeNoXD
16:37.35ALoGeNothat is a importatnt thing hehe
16:37.52ALoGeNothe fucking garage or the parking :)
16:44.03marajinALoGeNo: My house has a double drive.. possibly a triple if you're careful
16:45.45ALoGeNohehe nice.., well i hope that you have very much luck with your car, is the coffe time,see you later marajin and you guys
16:45.58marajinALoGeNo: Thanks, see ya later
16:46.05ALoGeNo:) bb
16:46.44marajinALoGeNo: Oh and less CC != Less fuel useage... It's a balance on the fuel type, type of driving and weight of the car vs the engine CC.
16:47.09marajinALoGeNo: So 1.3 l may get 50-60mpg, 0.8 would get less because the engine works too hard to pull the car.
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16:48.25ALoGeNoxD
16:48.57ALoGeNook thaks for the explanation marajin :))) you are a nice guy.. see ya
16:49.00marajinalso gasoline doesn't exist in the UK, gasoline is technically a tradename for the american 'mix' of fuels.
16:49.07marajinUK fuel is purer and more powerful
16:49.10marajinwe call it petrol
16:49.17ALoGeNoooohh..
16:49.30ALoGeNofucking marketing
16:49.31ALoGeNoXD
16:49.37marajinyeah
16:49.43ALoGeNotheys play with us ;)
16:49.46marajinso remember, all UK cars are _slightly_ faster than in the US
16:49.49marajin:p
16:49.55ALoGeNoxd
16:49.59ALoGeNookey
16:50.20BabelOkiozen: around ?
16:50.24marajinat 1.3 l engine, doesn't really matter though :P but on like a 6 litre monster then it'd be noticeable
16:50.30BabelOkiozen: can you come on #qtopia
16:50.45ALoGeNohehe..
16:51.06ALoGeNobb
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