| 00:01.53 | cr2_ | wasup: i think yes. |
| 00:02.11 | cr2_ | wasup: but they may be binary-only, who knows. |
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| 00:02.39 | cr2_ | still, we will have something usable to debug :) |
| 00:02.43 | logkbomb | 'lo all |
| 00:02.44 | Abram | the right answer is "do you think g1 will have the same wifi chip as titan"? |
| 00:03.01 | cr2_ | Abram: htc uses only 1 chip. |
| 00:03.06 | cr2_ | for wifi |
| 00:03.13 | Abram | that's good for you |
| 00:03.32 | Abram | moto uses even different fm radio chips |
| 00:04.04 | cr2_ | i don't know what htc uses for fm/rds |
| 00:04.21 | cr2_ | but it's cotrolled over bt ;) |
| 00:04.28 | cr2_ | with ti .bts scripts |
| 00:05.38 | logkbomb | has anyone been able to calibrate yet with android and the titan? |
| 00:06.46 | cr2_ | Abram: we have 2 nice qtopia gps apps: qlandkarteM and roadmap. an automated build process will be nice to have |
| 00:07.05 | Abram | cr2_, what are them?.. |
| 00:07.12 | Abram | some GPS stuff? |
| 00:07.50 | Abram | i don't think using OE for building Qtopia packages is a good idea... |
| 00:09.00 | cr2_ | Abram: http://qlandkarte.org |
| 00:09.20 | wasup | cr2_: oh...cool... |
| 00:10.19 | wasup | cr2_: what about getting rid of wm? how long after the g1 will we be able to boot directly into android? |
| 00:10.24 | Abram | cr2_, not bad |
| 00:10.29 | cr2_ | Abram: and http://roadmap.sourceforge.net |
| 00:11.02 | cr2_ | wasup: on what phone ? we will see :) |
| 00:11.51 | wasup | pretty much on any phone other then the g1... i was thinking that probably the vogue would be first though...just cause dzo has it pretty much working on it |
| 00:12.13 | logkbomb | cr2_: Is there any way to tell how much memory you have left after booting? |
| 00:13.26 | wasup | i can't wait for the titan to have it working perfect... also.. another question... can the touchscreen drivers in linux change the sensitivity on the titan touch screen? i mean is that even remotely possible? |
| 00:14.25 | Abram | did anyone built IMLife? |
| 00:17.16 | cr2_ | logkbomb: what is the purpose ? |
| 00:18.06 | cr2_ | wasup: you need to keep track of the pressure (if it#s provided) and do something about it. |
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| 00:19.07 | logkbomb | cr2_: I am curious to see the memory footprint of android while launching apps |
| 00:21.32 | BruteSource | will someone please email me the congig.txt please im on a handheld |
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| 00:22.06 | cr2_ | logkbomb: i guess it's not going to be easy without the android source. |
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| 00:23.36 | exco1 | if anybody is interested in the latest images for Magician (x11/gpe, gpe, opie) by lastik have a look http://excogitation.de/lastik/ |
| 00:24.28 | BruteSource | cr2_ would you please email me the config.txt for haret? |
| 00:27.04 | cr2_ | BruteSource: config.txt ?? |
| 00:27.45 | BruteSource | default sorry |
| 00:27.54 | BruteSource | default.txt |
| 00:29.34 | BruteSource | the one for linwizard... |
| 00:29.39 | cr2_ | it depends on 10000 things |
| 00:30.43 | BruteSource | huh? i mean the one you get when you get linwizard |
| 00:31.57 | wasup | cr2_: how exactly do i go about that? |
| 00:32.17 | wasup | as of now the touch screen is kinda flaky as it is for the titan |
| 00:33.13 | szsoftware | dcordes_: alive and kicking? |
| 00:34.37 | szsoftware | dcordes_: can you please take a look at: http://pastebin.com/m57b68e25 ? Tiny step before running fbi? |
| 00:34.56 | szsoftware | or anybody else, firm with oe? |
| 00:35.45 | ginge | okay, so we are detecting the partitions, but we cant fdisk because of an oob. maybe I calculated those offsets wrong... |
| 00:36.14 | tmzt_ | root=/dev/ram0 init=/linuxrc |
| 00:36.19 | dcordes_ | ginge: the blank area seems endless. it's more than 10 seconds before the data is printed |
| 00:36.30 | dcordes_ | s/seconds/seconds of blank pages/ |
| 00:36.55 | ginge | more offset? |
| 00:36.59 | ginge | seems unlikely |
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| 00:38.05 | ginge | or maybe too much offset |
| 00:38.27 | dcordes_ | what about the |
| 00:38.36 | dcordes_ | msm_nand_read_oob unsupported ops->len, 512 |
| 00:38.41 | dcordes_ | not important? |
| 00:39.06 | ginge | yeah important somehow |
| 00:39.15 | dcordes_ | what does it mean? |
| 00:39.22 | dcordes_ | wrong block length? |
| 00:39.27 | ginge | read was out of bounds |
| 00:39.38 | dcordes_ | maybe because of the 000000000000? |
| 00:39.46 | ginge | maybe |
| 00:39.57 | dcordes_ | I will try one partition only |
| 00:40.08 | ginge | I guessed and did partition offset + 0x2400000 |
| 00:40.27 | dcordes_ | btw the table you wrote into nand_partitions.c looks like the ones in the boardfiles of the pxa htcs |
| 00:40.36 | ginge | oh? |
| 00:40.47 | ginge | well it was kind of obvious |
| 00:40.56 | ginge | its not even the right way to do it |
| 00:41.15 | ginge | if this works it should go in platform data |
| 00:41.51 | ginge | ifdef the whole nand_partitions c file out |
| 00:42.11 | ginge | one thing at a time :) |
| 00:46.48 | szsoftware | dcordes_: anyhint? |
| 00:47.29 | ginge | any idea how to work out the true offset values? |
| 00:47.39 | dcordes_ | cr2_: ? |
| 00:47.51 | cr2_ | ginge: blocksize is 0x800 |
| 00:47.52 | dcordes_ | szsoftware: hm only see the cannot stat line |
| 00:48.12 | ginge | yeah |
| 00:48.23 | szsoftware | dcordes_: what is that *-gnuabi-strip? a directory? |
| 00:48.33 | cr2_ | ginge: but i think it should be autodetected ? |
| 00:48.44 | szsoftware | dcordes_: when I bitbake nano such a line doesn't apear |
| 00:48.58 | dcordes_ | szsoftware: tmp/cross/bin/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-strip |
| 00:49.10 | dcordes_ | szsoftware: it's part of your toolchain |
| 00:49.31 | cr2_ | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=MSM_NANDID |
| 00:50.03 | cr2_ | ginge: you also have this hynix chip ? |
| 00:50.15 | ginge | dcordes_: what did you have? |
| 00:50.28 | dcordes_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:51.06 | ginge | cr2_: not sure. will check tomorrow |
| 00:51.35 | dcordes_ | # |
| 00:51.36 | dcordes_ | nandid: 5580baad maker ad device ba |
| 00:52.19 | dcordes_ | ginge: the blocksize is auto chosen by the detected id? |
| 00:52.26 | ginge | not sure. i'm going to sleep now. dcordes_ you got the patch, see if you can run htcflasher info 8 to get the offsets |
| 00:52.28 | cr2_ | baad maker |
| 00:52.36 | dcordes_ | lol |
| 00:52.49 | cr2_ | dcordes_: i think it should be taken from the table |
| 00:53.11 | szsoftware | dcordes_: ok, *-strip seems to be a binary program. What does it do? I don't know the term stripping in that context |
| 00:53.15 | cr2_ | otherwise it does not make sense to hardcode such tables |
| 00:53.15 | dcordes_ | where does the driver get the table from? |
| 00:53.39 | dcordes_ | szsoftware: I think it removes debug stuff and so from the binary after compiling |
| 00:53.41 | cr2_ | 3:00 |
| 00:53.44 | cr2_ | good night |
| 00:53.49 | dcordes_ | night |
| 00:53.52 | ginge | night |
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| 00:55.25 | dcordes_ | szsoftware: is it present in tmp/cross ? |
| 00:56.04 | szsoftware | dcordes_: seems well so far: fbi: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, ARM, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.6.14, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), not stripped |
| 00:56.32 | szsoftware | dcordes_: exiftran: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, ARM, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.6.14, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), not stripped |
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| 00:57.36 | dcordes_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:58.17 | szsoftware | dcordes_: yes its there |
| 00:58.36 | szsoftware | dcordes_: arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-strip |
| 00:58.57 | dcordes_ | so why doesn't install find it? |
| 00:59.39 | szsoftware | dcordes_: ok, that means "install script cannot find *-strip" ? |
| 01:00.03 | dcordes_ | somewhat |
| 01:00.07 | dcordes_ | maybe ask #OE |
| 01:00.31 | dcordes_ | does fbi run? |
| 01:00.35 | dcordes_ | on the kaiser |
| 01:00.53 | wasup | good news guys.... I finally have data working on my titan through android... i finally found my sprint vision password..and it works like a charm...:) |
| 01:02.13 | szsoftware | dcordes_: didn't try it (on pola) |
| 01:02.44 | dcordes_ | polaris.. sorry |
| 01:03.01 | dcordes_ | can you put it somewhere or give me the bb? I'll try on kaiser |
| 01:03.36 | szsoftware | dcordes_: but have to install the files manually until the "ipkg permission denied" prob as away |
| 01:04.00 | szsoftware | dcordes_: wait |
| 01:04.03 | dcordes_ | szsoftware: what's that rootfs you are using? |
| 01:06.02 | szsoftware | dcordes_: will /dcc work with irssi? |
| 01:06.24 | szsoftware | dcordes_: extracted angstrom-new-bin from your space |
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| 01:07.29 | dcordes_ | szsoftware: just email it |
| 01:08.20 | dcordes_ | it's better to use the tgreer-special-sd-rootfs |
| 01:08.57 | dcordes_ | or pastebin the bb |
| 01:09.43 | szsoftware | dcordes_: you've got mail, because of the patches |
| 01:10.05 | szsoftware | dcordes_: tgreers did not work for me |
| 01:10.49 | dcordes_ | did you get the stuff out of the subfolder? |
| 01:12.26 | szsoftware | dcordes_: last question tgreer related? |
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| 01:13.52 | dcordes_ | yep check querry |
| 01:16.09 | szsoftware | dcordes_: don't know what you mean. Took this one http://linuxtogo.org/~lgorris/tgreer-special-sd-rootfs.tar.gz and xtracted it to sd |
| 01:16.37 | dcordes_ | didn't you get my private message? |
| 01:16.57 | szsoftware | dcordes_: within irssi? |
| 01:17.34 | szsoftware | dcordes_: I'm not sofamilar with that, how to switch to pm? |
| 01:18.24 | dcordes_ | don't know which client you have I switch chans with ctrl p and n |
| 01:21.09 | SanMehat | dcordes_: yo |
| 01:21.28 | dcordes_ | hi SanMehat |
| 01:21.57 | SanMehat | have you heard from ginge lately? I was curious how the new driver is working |
| 01:23.04 | dcordes_ | SanMehat: new is the dma upgrades you sent him a few days ago? |
| 01:23.09 | szsoftware | OK, Night @ all. Night dcordes_ Night SanMehat |
| 01:23.21 | dcordes_ | szsoftware: night |
| 01:25.23 | dcordes_ | SanMehat: I think those didn't fix the problem |
| 01:26.25 | SanMehat | dcordes_: ahh thats too bad. |
| 01:27.03 | dcordes_ | thanks for the help though |
| 01:28.23 | SanMehat | no problem... i'm dissapointed it didn't work better for you |
| 01:28.43 | dcordes_ | maybe it worked better don't know the details |
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| 01:31.30 | brute | tmzt_ ? |
| 01:32.56 | brute | ping... |
| 01:41.27 | dcordes_ | good night |
| 01:43.03 | tmzt_ | brute: hey, I'm leaving in a few minutes |
| 01:43.55 | tmzt_ | brute: ali1234 said they only can send at commands |
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| 03:16.16 | BruteFrce | ping |
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| 04:26.47 | tmzt_ | BruteFrce: hey, we have been working with X on the devices, like kaiser |
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| 04:51.51 | ALoGeNo | tmzt_ ? |
| 04:53.54 | tmzt_ | hey |
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| 04:54.28 | tmzt_ | ALoGeNo: did you use debian installer images when you installed debian? |
| 04:54.37 | ALoGeNo | nope |
| 04:54.48 | tmzt_ | ALoGeNo: I am working on a wiki article for jlime wiki on Debian on mp900c |
| 04:55.07 | ALoGeNo | if you want i can do a tutorial for you and then i have that write for me too :) |
| 04:55.13 | ALoGeNo | oh. |
| 04:55.22 | tmzt_ | how did you do your install? |
| 04:55.45 | ALoGeNo | is a little complex becose you must do many steaps.. |
| 04:55.50 | ALoGeNo | steps* |
| 04:56.10 | tmzt_ | basically I am going to write it on the three partition install, but I will put in other methods, or you can if kristoffer gave you access |
| 04:56.19 | ALoGeNo | i mixed many tutorial things |
| 04:56.32 | tmzt_ | I would really like to have a way to do it without linux on pc too |
| 04:57.02 | tmzt_ | maybe build a linload.exe from haret with a small initrd |
| 04:57.04 | ALoGeNo | now i have 3 partitions but only for to have both systems.. |
| 04:57.21 | ALoGeNo | i dont using initrd :P |
| 04:57.42 | ALoGeNo | im not* |
| 04:57.50 | ALoGeNo | hey can you do lsdev? |
| 04:58.00 | tmzt_ | do what? |
| 04:58.06 | ALoGeNo | lsdev |
| 04:58.26 | tmzt_ | don't have that |
| 04:58.32 | ALoGeNo | hum.. |
| 04:58.47 | tmzt_ | did you get a kernel from kristoffer today? |
| 04:58.55 | ALoGeNo | i have a message that says cant open /proc/dma |
| 04:59.02 | ALoGeNo | nope.. |
| 04:59.09 | ALoGeNo | we have new one? |
| 04:59.11 | tmzt_ | from what? |
| 04:59.26 | tmzt_ | he is working on 2.6.27/2.6.28 for rmk |
| 04:59.33 | ALoGeNo | omg! |
| 04:59.44 | ALoGeNo | then i need to git pull? |
| 05:00.02 | tmzt_ | no, I don't know, he said he would say when it was done |
| 05:00.11 | ALoGeNo | or isnt in the repo? |
| 05:00.15 | tmzt_ | on a different branch if its in git |
| 05:00.28 | ALoGeNo | oh ok..np |
| 05:04.57 | ALoGeNo | tmzt_ get sysutils |
| 05:05.08 | ALoGeNo | and do lsdev |
| 05:07.08 | ALoGeNo | this is the lsdev of my laptop |
| 05:07.10 | ALoGeNo | http://rafb.net/p/K5CsCs62.html |
| 05:09.08 | tmzt_ | sysutils does not seem to be in armel |
| 05:09.16 | tmzt_ | what are you looking for? |
| 05:10.30 | ALoGeNo | no nothing to see info about the fucking senao.. |
| 05:10.41 | ALoGeNo | im crazy with that.. the firmware is ok.. |
| 05:10.53 | ALoGeNo | i changed that 10 times.. |
| 05:11.19 | ALoGeNo | i was tryed many versions and the same... |
| 05:12.09 | ALoGeNo | i have think that the porblem is that the pcmcia needs run before the CF |
| 05:12.20 | tmzt_ | pccardctl ident 1 |
| 05:12.22 | ALoGeNo | i have the same problem in winCE |
| 05:12.59 | ALoGeNo | in winCE i need ull out the CF and then insert the senao pcmcia.. then the senao is detected ok.. |
| 05:13.12 | ALoGeNo | if not do that in this way not work.. |
| 05:13.31 | ALoGeNo | and that is the problem in linux i thinks.. |
| 05:13.35 | ALoGeNo | think* |
| 05:13.36 | tmzt_ | what do you mean by "pcmcia need run before the CF"? |
| 05:13.51 | tmzt_ | needs |
| 05:14.09 | ALoGeNo | yes i need insert allways the pcmcia senao before the compact flash |
| 05:14.26 | ALoGeNo | if not dont wont work.. |
| 05:14.36 | tmzt_ | that could be a problem with root on cf |
| 05:14.38 | ALoGeNo | allways.. |
| 05:15.06 | ALoGeNo | yes.. but i have no money to buy wifi CF now :( |
| 05:15.19 | tmzt_ | you mean the socket order? |
| 05:15.35 | ALoGeNo | i have cf > pcmcia adapter but not cf wifi card |
| 05:15.40 | tmzt_ | I had that with trying to run jlime from pcmcia with cf adapter |
| 05:15.49 | ALoGeNo | yes we can change that in any place? |
| 05:15.52 | tmzt_ | it would come up as hdc |
| 05:16.21 | ALoGeNo | i did it i was run jlime in pcmcia cf adapter just now.. |
| 05:16.21 | tmzt_ | I have cf wifi, but I use adapter so it sticks out right side, not in front |
| 05:16.35 | ALoGeNo | oh.. |
| 05:16.36 | tmzt_ | you had to change root= ? |
| 05:16.46 | ALoGeNo | what? |
| 05:16.56 | tmzt_ | in default.txt |
| 05:17.06 | tmzt_ | root=/dev/hdc2 |
| 05:17.09 | ALoGeNo | i think that the problem is that pcmcia needs to be the fisrt device.. |
| 05:17.28 | tmzt_ | what does pccardctl ident say? |
| 05:17.51 | ALoGeNo | hehe i think that you are confuse.. :P |
| 05:17.58 | tmzt_ | my socket 0 is cf, and socket 1 is pcmcia |
| 05:18.14 | ALoGeNo | yes.. that is.. |
| 05:18.32 | tmzt_ | when you ran jlime from pcmcia adapter, did you have to change the cmdline in default.txt? |
| 05:18.43 | ALoGeNo | no |
| 05:18.49 | ALoGeNo | is the same.. |
| 05:18.58 | tmzt_ | that might be a difference in new kernel |
| 05:19.00 | ALoGeNo | in pcmcia cf adpter or cf direct |
| 05:19.14 | ALoGeNo | np |
| 05:19.21 | tmzt_ | the order idecs is detected is based on which is inserted first? |
| 05:19.55 | ALoGeNo | i dont know what you mean |
| 05:20.01 | tmzt_ | my cf microdrive consistently comes up as hda now |
| 05:20.13 | ALoGeNo | mines too |
| 05:20.20 | ALoGeNo | in CF slot no? |
| 05:20.32 | tmzt_ | yes |
| 05:20.37 | ALoGeNo | ok |
| 05:20.55 | tmzt_ | dmesg |grep pcmcia: |
| 05:21.13 | tmzt_ | you get pcmcia0.0 before pcmcia1.0 ? |
| 05:21.30 | ALoGeNo | i saw after puting one cf in pcmcia adpter and another in cf slot that if i boot from pcmcia it is hda and cf hdc |
| 05:21.59 | ALoGeNo | that is that you say? |
| 05:22.03 | tmzt_ | yes |
| 05:22.08 | ALoGeNo | pcmcia 0.0 |
| 05:22.37 | ALoGeNo | and then when i insert pcmcia wifi is 0.1 |
| 05:22.51 | tmzt_ | in the pcmcia slot? |
| 05:22.55 | tmzt_ | that makes no sense |
| 05:22.56 | ALoGeNo | yep |
| 05:23.55 | ALoGeNo | and then when i insert pcmcia wifi is 1.0* |
| 05:23.56 | ALoGeNo | xd |
| 05:24.23 | ALoGeNo | my pcmcia request a exclusive irq |
| 05:24.24 | tmzt_ | yeah, I knew what you meant. still makes no sense |
| 05:24.32 | ALoGeNo | and if not no work.. |
| 05:24.49 | tmzt_ | I get that, it still works |
| 05:25.00 | ALoGeNo | and i think that is the same in wince |
| 05:25.19 | tmzt_ | ce drivers are weird enough to begin with |
| 05:25.35 | ALoGeNo | for that i need to pull out the CF before insert the pcmcia.. |
| 05:27.03 | ALoGeNo | pcmcia says that the driver needs to be updated to support shared irq's |
| 05:28.45 | ALoGeNo | tmzt_ what repo ar you using in 900c? in sources.list cz? |
| 05:28.53 | ALoGeNo | uk? |
| 05:28.58 | ALoGeNo | us? |
| 05:29.28 | tmzt_ | us |
| 05:29.38 | tmzt_ | shouldn't matter |
| 05:29.57 | ALoGeNo | ok |
| 05:30.12 | ALoGeNo | im crazy with senao.. |
| 05:30.15 | ALoGeNo | crazy.. |
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| 05:31.20 | ALoGeNo | tmzt_ why we use orinoco and not prism ? |
| 05:31.39 | ALoGeNo | or prism54 |
| 05:31.41 | tmzt_ | for wep |
| 05:32.03 | tmzt_ | I think prism is the old driver, its in orinoco now |
| 05:32.14 | ALoGeNo | i get the same card in the laptop runing with another driver.. |
| 05:32.17 | tmzt_ | prism54 is not 16bit? |
| 05:32.28 | ALoGeNo | i dunno |
| 05:32.30 | tmzt_ | what driver? |
| 05:33.03 | ALoGeNo | i have both prism54 and prism |
| 05:33.43 | tmzt_ | lsmod ? |
| 05:33.46 | ALoGeNo | prism54 47624 0 |
| 05:33.47 | ALoGeNo | firmware_class 9600 2 pcmcia,prism54 |
| 05:34.03 | tmzt_ | its a 16bit pcmcia card, not cardbus? |
| 05:35.03 | tmzt_ | does it show up in lspci ? |
| 05:35.33 | ALoGeNo | 00:06.0 Network controller: Intersil Corporation ISL3890 [Prism GT/Prism Duette]/ISL388 |
| 05:35.37 | ALoGeNo | that is.. |
| 05:35.48 | ALoGeNo | mini-pci |
| 05:36.11 | tmzt_ | it uses prism, which I think is a generic set of routines for prism based cards |
| 05:36.34 | tmzt_ | prism54 is prism with a 80211g phy, as I understand it |
| 05:37.23 | ellisway | prism driver is used mainly for older prism 2 2.5 3 series prism controllers |
| 05:37.39 | ALoGeNo | ah |
| 05:37.42 | ellisway | also some of the old spectrum24 stuff |
| 05:38.00 | ALoGeNo | okey |
| 05:38.01 | ellisway | orinoco driver should run most of the same devices |
| 05:38.35 | ALoGeNo | letme put the senao in the laptop to see.. |
| 05:38.42 | ellisway | i havn`t played much with orinoco drivers since i was playing with the hermesap stuff |
| 05:39.14 | ellisway | senao pcmcia is proobably the prism2 or 2.5 |
| 05:39.18 | tmzt_ | ellisway: would you know why hostap would be repeatedly disconnecting on wpa? |
| 05:39.51 | ellisway | not really |
| 05:39.58 | ellisway | could be a list of things |
| 05:40.10 | ellisway | preamble |
| 05:40.39 | ellisway | could also be the hostap driver changing speeds |
| 05:40.45 | tmzt_ | I don't have the full debugging turned on in wpa_supplicant because it scrolls too fast |
| 05:40.55 | ellisway | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:41.10 | ALoGeNo | cpu-mster:~# pccardctl status |
| 05:41.10 | ALoGeNo | Socket 0: |
| 05:41.10 | ALoGeNo | 3.3V 16-bit PC Card |
| 05:41.11 | ALoGeNo | Subdevice 0 (function 0) bound to driver "orinoco_cs" |
| 05:41.11 | ALoGeNo | cpu-mster:~# |
| 05:41.30 | ALoGeNo | in the laptop works |
| 05:41.38 | tmzt_ | linksys ap with ddwrt (now), mp900c with ambicom card |
| 05:41.53 | tmzt_ | its more stable on dynamic wep at school |
| 05:42.11 | tmzt_ | ieee80211_crypt_ccmp and wpa-aes |
| 05:42.20 | ellisway | i never really played with the hostap code |
| 05:42.33 | ellisway | always seemed to be borked in 1 way or another |
| 05:42.46 | tmzt_ | oh, what were you using for hermes ap? |
| 05:42.56 | ellisway | hermesap |
| 05:43.27 | ellisway | was a fork of the orinoco_cs drivers to add load the teritry orinoco card firmware |
| 05:43.34 | ALoGeNo | tmzt_ the senao works in the laptop with orinoco :) |
| 05:43.46 | ALoGeNo | the pcmcia is ok.. :) |
| 05:44.02 | tmzt_ | seems likely, so its a irq thing |
| 05:44.47 | ALoGeNo | collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 |
| 05:44.47 | ALoGeNo | RX bytes:0 (0.0 b) TX bytes:792 (792.0 b) |
| 05:44.47 | ALoGeNo | Interrupt:3 Base address:0x100 |
| 05:45.06 | ALoGeNo | in the laptop get the irq 3 |
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| 05:45.33 | ALoGeNo | and in the nec the 71 |
| 05:45.35 | tmzt_ | when you unplug the card is that irq assigned to the socket? |
| 05:45.44 | tmzt_ | on laptop |
| 05:45.45 | ellisway | also at the time i was playing with the orinoco drivers there was the issues of 3 header wds frames which used to cause all kinds of issues depending on the firmware on the card in use |
| 05:45.46 | ALoGeNo | the thernet get the 3 without problems |
| 05:46.23 | tmzt_ | I saw that on olpc discussions, where they were using 4 address frames for mesh |
| 05:46.28 | ALoGeNo | let me see |
| 05:46.48 | ellisway | 4 address frames is the standard |
| 05:47.07 | ellisway | 3 address frames was a early implimentation |
| 05:47.29 | ellisway | in the firmware on prism and symbol spectrum24 branded devices |
| 05:47.37 | ellisway | basicly the orinoco cards |
| 05:48.00 | ellisway | the symbol spectrum24 and the prism 1 2 2.5 3 stuff |
| 05:48.13 | ellisway | are all very simalar based bits of kits |
| 05:48.46 | ellisway | slightly different mac controllers and firmware was about the only differences |
| 05:48.49 | tmzt_ | these seem hard to debug without being able to debug firmware |
| 05:49.47 | tmzt_ | do you know anything about the aero 350 cards? |
| 05:50.03 | ellisway | the cisco stuff |
| 05:50.05 | tmzt_ | I was wondering about making a hostap style driver for it |
| 05:50.13 | tmzt_ | since its supposed to be prism based |
| 05:50.17 | ellisway | never really played with them |
| 05:50.31 | ALoGeNo | that dont maybe a problem of udev tmzt_? |
| 05:50.55 | ellisway | sensitivity on the cisco cards never seemed all that good |
| 05:50.55 | tmzt_ | I don't know if the pri's could be loaded on them |
| 05:50.55 | tmzt_ | instead of the leap firmware |
| 05:50.58 | ellisway | compared to a senao or engenius or orinoco based card |
| 05:51.20 | ellisway | was a prism base with another mac controller |
| 05:51.43 | tmzt_ | oh, its just I have the ambicom and the 16bit cisco, and thats all for mp900c |
| 05:51.59 | ellisway | although i dont think much hacking around with the hardware ever took place |
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| 05:52.09 | tmzt_ | I was going to use the ioctl based leap client I could find but never got it to work |
| 05:52.19 | ellisway | the orinoco cards and the prism cards flooded the market |
| 05:52.33 | tmzt_ | we can use leap or peap for authentication |
| 05:52.39 | ellisway | so that was what most tended to use |
| 05:53.46 | ellisway | i still have a few bits of older orinoco based kit running |
| 05:53.59 | tmzt_ | as ap? |
| 05:54.01 | ellisway | mostly things like ap2500 and ap2000 |
| 05:54.30 | ellisway | but use more of the mp11 and ap4000 ap4500 |
| 05:54.45 | tmzt_ | hermesap is a daemon and driver? |
| 05:54.55 | ellisway | stufjust a driver |
| 05:55.02 | ellisway | oops |
| 05:55.18 | tmzt_ | what do you use to handle association? |
| 05:56.24 | ellisway | running a few diff things most of my wireless stuff is meshed or meshed hotspots etc etc |
| 05:57.33 | tmzt_ | have you looked at nl80211? |
| 05:58.22 | ellisway | nope |
| 05:58.47 | ellisway | although its basicly to replace the current wireless extensions |
| 05:58.50 | tmzt_ | was looking for someway of using it with the linksys bcm chipsets |
| 05:58.52 | ellisway | if i remember right |
| 05:59.08 | tmzt_ | but everything is still using the broadcom tools/driver |
| 05:59.23 | ellisway | bcm is awkward to work with |
| 05:59.49 | ellisway | atheros is much better for playing around /developing with |
| 06:00.08 | tmzt_ | now with hal and everything opened |
| 06:00.30 | tmzt_ | I don't know what inexpensive ap's use it though |
| 06:00.46 | ellisway | compex |
| 06:01.08 | ellisway | use atheros based devices in their stuff |
| 06:01.23 | tmzt_ | is it possible to have two aps linked with ethernet and roam between them? |
| 06:01.23 | ellisway | also the ubnt stuff is also atheros based |
| 06:01.33 | ellisway | yes |
| 06:02.01 | ellisway | but i dont know of anything other than the orinoco ap2000/ap2500 that it works on correctly |
| 06:02.06 | tmzt_ | could not get it to work with ddwrt at least |
| 06:02.25 | tmzt_ | or wds or anything else |
| 06:02.25 | ellisway | wds is basicly possible over wired networks aswell as wireless |
| 06:02.45 | tmzt_ | the 4 address frames in ethernet? |
| 06:02.49 | ellisway | oorinoco document tb_046 i think shows it |
| 06:03.25 | ellisway | in some small almost forgotton paragraph |
| 06:03.35 | tmzt_ | I assume I need to dedicate a port to it, but then how would failover work both ways? |
| 06:04.07 | ellisway | in a test setup i had 2 ap2500 with 2 radios in each |
| 06:04.31 | ellisway | and a 10/100 switch between the ethernet ports |
| 06:05.06 | ellisway | i could failover from a wds backlink on wired to wireless and vice versa |
| 06:05.52 | tmzt_ | if you are using wds, does it then authenticate with only one of the ap's? |
| 06:06.05 | ellisway | no it can auth to both ap`s |
| 06:06.11 | ellisway | and roam between them |
| 06:06.56 | ellisway | ap4000`s in mesh mode are quite nice to work with |
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| 06:11.04 | tmzt_ | when I try to connect at school with recent iwl3945, I would get mixed mode authentication failed error |
| 06:11.44 | tmzt_ | it also appears to be in a windows kb article as a possible error, but they don't have the problem |
| 06:12.43 | Spike1506 | Morning |
| 06:15.04 | tmzt_ | hi |
| 06:21.12 | tmzt_ | Spike1506: hi, really night for me though |
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| 06:22.20 | tmzt_ | zdooder: you are working on titan? |
| 06:22.26 | zdooder | yes |
| 06:22.48 | zdooder | well, 'working' might be a bit of an overstatement.... 'trying' might be better ;-) |
| 06:22.57 | tmzt_ | how is the keyboard going, someone said the gpios are mapped? |
| 06:23.06 | zdooder | I think so |
| 06:23.22 | zdooder | I have managed to use the kaiser keyboard and hack on it to get it to work on the titan |
| 06:23.54 | tmzt_ | ok, this is matrix keyboard or what is it? |
| 06:24.03 | zdooder | but I keep getting into a state somehow where it doesn't want to boot fully and I don't know what it is -- I *thought* it was a GPIO conflict with the board-htcvogue.c gpio assignments, but maybe I was wrong. |
| 06:24.08 | zdooder | Yes it's a matrix keyboard |
| 06:24.42 | zdooder | Well, take all of this with a grain of salt -- this is someone who is pretty smart but is really kind of poking around in the dark |
| 06:25.15 | zdooder | I think the kbd row gpios are 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, and 79, and the cols are 37, 38, 39, 40, 41, and 42. |
| 06:25.27 | tmzt_ | so, if I understand it, hw on polaris and vogue are similar, except the msm soc itself |
| 06:25.34 | tmzt_ | and kaiser/titan |
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| 06:25.50 | zdooder | board-htcvogue.c uses some of those for the keypad gpios though (which is wrong on the Titan, they appear to be mapped via a cpld(is that the right term?)) |
| 06:26.10 | tmzt_ | I think so, thats what the project calls it |
| 06:26.14 | zdooder | Ok |
| 06:26.29 | tmzt_ | so you need a board-htctitan.c ? |
| 06:26.42 | tmzt_ | or split things out |
| 06:26.52 | zdooder | Oh -- and the board-kaiser-keypad.c that I was working off of has some egpio stuff (which I think is the same as the cpld stuff?) but uses some interface that doesn't appear to be present in the htc-vogue branch |
| 06:27.24 | zdooder | I tried to make a board-htctitan.c, but it seemed unhappy when I did that so I'm trying to get back to something that at least boots and the keyboard works on... :-( |
| 06:27.38 | tmzt_ | the old kernels (handhelds.org) used functions for egpio, and now upstream kernel uses generic gpio functions |
| 06:27.47 | zdooder | I was unsure about the significance of symbols like "MACH_HTCTITAN" vs. "MACH_HTCVOGUE" as well. |
| 06:28.01 | tmzt_ | the Kconfig and Makefile use those |
| 06:28.09 | tmzt_ | to control what .o's are compiled in |
| 06:28.18 | tmzt_ | the .o's are made by make from .c's |
| 06:28.21 | zdooder | I think I understand the Kconfig/Makefile stuff |
| 06:28.32 | zdooder | It's the arch/arm/machine_types.h stuff I was worried about |
| 06:28.42 | tmzt_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:29.02 | zdooder | sorry that should be include/asm-arm/mach-types.h |
| 06:29.03 | tmzt_ | the board file should have a register machine which uses a constant defined threre |
| 06:29.21 | tmzt_ | but they aren't really related to CONFIG_ constants |
| 06:29.37 | tmzt_ | Kconfig uses the same name without CONFIG_, which is confusing |
| 06:29.41 | zdooder | Right |
| 06:29.43 | tmzt_ | but the c constant is named CONFIG_ |
| 06:29.50 | zdooder | Well, not too confusing if you know to look for it :) |
| 06:30.08 | zdooder | I'm also trying to learn some about kernel stuff, completion structs, tasks, work queues, etc. |
| 06:30.35 | zdooder | Do you know if the order they appear in the Makefile determines the initialization order of the drivers compiled into the kernel? |
| 06:30.41 | tmzt_ | haven't really got into those yet, just moving around stuff in board files |
| 06:30.56 | tmzt_ | I believe it does |
| 06:31.42 | tmzt_ | well, the module init's in each file get called in that order, I think |
| 06:31.52 | zdooder | I see that wasup was here, how far did he get? |
| 06:31.55 | tmzt_ | whether they are compiled in or as modules, the code is the same now |
| 06:32.18 | tmzt_ | wasn't paying much attention |
| 06:32.54 | zdooder | oops... not very far I guess: 'i lost the working kernel... do you remember what site zdooder had put it up on?' |
| 06:33.57 | zdooder | don't suppose these things have any sort of alt-sysreq magic key ? ;-) |
| 06:35.31 | tmzt_ | oh, was working on excalibur, trying to pay attention to one conversation at a time |
| 06:35.47 | tmzt_ | something could be mapped to that |
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| 06:37.01 | tmzt_ | ALoGeNo: did you find that irq thing? |
| 06:37.24 | tmzt_ | and do you know what pcmcia controller the laptop has? |
| 06:37.30 | ALoGeNo | nothing i think that in the laptop runs by pcmcia-cs and hotplug |
| 06:38.04 | tmzt_ | I mean the low-level chip driver, ti or whatever |
| 06:39.05 | ALoGeNo | 00:09.0 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI1410 PC card Cardbus Controller (rev 01) |
| 06:39.53 | tmzt_ | ok, I think that's what we needed |
| 06:39.59 | tmzt_ | do you know what module it uses? |
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| 06:40.10 | ALoGeNo | nope |
| 06:40.11 | tmzt_ | yenta? |
| 06:40.54 | ALoGeNo | yes yenta |
| 06:41.02 | tmzt_ | ok |
| 06:41.29 | tmzt_ | can you do cat /proc/interrupts with card in and out and see if the same irq is assigned to socket/wifi card in both cases? |
| 06:42.20 | zdooder | tmzt_: Damn, it's the driver order, I guess. If the keyboard driver is before the touchscreen driver that fixes it, it looks like |
| 06:42.34 | tmzt_ | change the make file |
| 06:42.55 | zdooder | tmzt_: Well, yeah, but that seems kinda woefully unstable then, doesn't it? |
| 06:42.58 | tmzt_ | could the be sharing an interrupt? |
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| 06:43.44 | tmzt_ | ALoGeNo: You don't get the private irq message on laptop? right |
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| 06:48.40 | tmzt_ | zdooder: dcordes is looking at wifi? |
| 06:50.53 | zdooder | tmzt_: Not sure, could be. |
| 06:51.04 | ALoGeNo | tmzt_ you mean in the laptop? |
| 06:51.12 | tmzt_ | ALoGeNo: yes |
| 06:51.40 | zdooder | Most of what they're talking about is a bit over my head :-( but I thought he was working on a storage driver or NAND or something like that. |
| 06:52.07 | tmzt_ | yeah, I think he is working on mapping the nand (flash) partitions used by ce |
| 06:52.23 | tmzt_ | google pushed as msm_nand driver a week or so ago |
| 06:53.08 | tmzt_ | but he also said (or someone did) that wifi was sdio for the purpose of enumerating it, but was really memory mapped acx |
| 06:53.26 | tmzt_ | on kaiser and titan |
| 06:53.44 | zdooder | see, there you go ... I think I know (sort of in a rough sense) what sdio is, but no clue what acx is? |
| 06:54.01 | tmzt_ | acx is just the name for the ti wifi chipset |
| 06:54.31 | zdooder | ok gotcha |
| 06:54.46 | ALoGeNo | tmzt_ http://rafb.net/p/mPgAII54.html |
| 06:54.56 | tmzt_ | sdio is the periphrial device support for sd card bus |
| 06:55.03 | zdooder | Right |
| 06:55.11 | tmzt_ | it uses a pcmcia like cis structure and id scheme |
| 06:56.13 | zdooder | ok... that I did not know |
| 06:57.10 | tmzt_ | what dcordes said is that wifi is not like a standard sdio card, but is actually mapped through the memory bus |
| 06:57.27 | tmzt_ | so the acx_mem driver might work |
| 06:57.37 | zdooder | that would be pretty awesome |
| 06:57.52 | tmzt_ | so keyboard might work if you change the order? |
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| 06:58.07 | zdooder | It is working yes |
| 06:58.24 | zdooder | well, I was going to test it another time to make sure (after removing my debug printk stuff that basically makes it unusable) |
| 06:59.10 | tmzt_ | great, I hope to get a titan soon |
| 06:59.28 | zdooder | The gpios that wasup had from ali1234 and ginge were close but not quite right, and because of the conflict with the board-htcvogue file most of them didn't work anyway. |
| 06:59.41 | tmzt_ | want to work on motoq this week though, get a ltg kernel working on it |
| 07:00.30 | zdooder | crosses fingers |
| 07:01.33 | zdooder | Is there such a message as "Unable to handle kernel null pointer dereference" ? |
| 07:02.58 | tmzt_ | it's pretty bad if its happens in the kernel |
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| 07:07.37 | tmzt_ | Spike1506: did you have a question? |
| 07:07.54 | Spike1506 | no, thanks for asking. :) |
| 07:07.57 | ALoGeNo | tmzt_ you get the rafb paste? |
| 07:08.20 | tmzt_ | it's in the scrollback, is that /proc/interrupts for both? |
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| 07:11.53 | zdooder | well, I better call it a night, thanks for your help tmzt_, hope to see you later. |
| 07:13.12 | tmzt_ | ALoGeNo: there is no irq3 in the second one, but it seems to be shared with socket and card |
| 07:13.17 | tmzt_ | same as mp900c |
| 07:13.31 | ALoGeNo | :/ |
| 07:13.45 | ALoGeNo | and what happend in the 900c? |
| 07:13.57 | ALoGeNo | you need some info more? |
| 07:14.18 | ALoGeNo | of my laptop i mean |
| 07:14.39 | tmzt_ | you don't get the need private irq message on laptop? |
| 07:15.15 | ALoGeNo | nope tmzt_ |
| 07:15.39 | tmzt_ | ok |
| 07:15.45 | ALoGeNo | just i mut to do modprobe orinoco and that works like a charm |
| 07:15.55 | ALoGeNo | ifconfig and iwconfig |
| 07:16.29 | tmzt_ | I always had problems with yenta on older kernels (2.4) on may old laptop, but there are many different chips called yenta now |
| 07:16.35 | ALoGeNo | i get it works in 900c sometimes but ifconfig shows 00:00:00:00:00:00 mac |
| 07:16.51 | ALoGeNo | oh |
| 07:17.13 | tmzt_ | I will look at the two drivers (yenta and mp900c pcmcia) and see what the irq routing differences are. |
| 07:17.29 | ALoGeNo | im with the defail kernel Linux cpu-mster 2.6.18-5-686 #1 SMP Mon Dec 24 16:41:07 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 07:18.21 | tmzt_ | can you get lspci -n |grep 09 |
| 07:18.30 | tmzt_ | the that's all, I need to go |
| 07:18.35 | tmzt_ | then |
| 07:19.12 | ALoGeNo | with the card inserted? |
| 07:19.26 | tmzt_ | doesn't matter |
| 07:19.50 | ALoGeNo | cpu-mster:~# lspci -n |grep 09 |
| 07:19.51 | ALoGeNo | 00:09.0 0607: 104c:ac50 (rev 01) |
| 07:19.51 | ALoGeNo | cpu-mster:~# |
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| 07:19.56 | ALoGeNo | the card is inserted |
| 07:20.23 | tmzt_ | ok, I think that's the pcmcia from earlier |
| 07:20.28 | tmzt_ | see you later |
| 07:20.59 | ALoGeNo | kk see you |
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| 07:51.48 | brtsrs | anyone up |
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| 08:52.33 | BabelO_ | morning |
| 08:52.37 | BabelO_ | kiozen: please :) |
| 08:52.51 | kiozen | BabelO_: morning :) |
| 08:53.22 | BabelO_ | kiozen: want to aplpy track patch ... but i fail under Windaube :( do you have a diff to provide ? |
| 08:56.07 | kiozen | BabelO_: sent to work |
| 08:56.23 | BabelO_ | kiozen: thanks, want to try that before coffee :) |
| 08:56.44 | kiozen | BabelO_: instead of coffee ? :) |
| 08:56.52 | BabelO_ | yes |
| 08:56.53 | kiozen | it's good but not that good |
| 08:57.35 | BabelO_ | kiozen: i read a book a year ago about gl.... functions to play with. |
| 08:58.41 | kiozen | BabelO_ yes I have the red bok, too |
| 08:59.02 | kiozen | played in 2001 with OpenGL |
| 09:01.28 | BabelO_ | kiozen: do you use kamil ? |
| 09:01.35 | BabelO_ | s/kamil/kmail/ |
| 09:01.40 | kiozen | BabelO_: yes |
| 09:01.50 | kiozen | no |
| 09:01.58 | BabelO_ | kiozen: the one in kde 4 ? |
| 09:01.58 | kiozen | BabelO_: wrong no |
| 09:02.16 | kiozen | I use kmail 3 at home |
| 09:02.23 | kiozen | and thunderbird at work |
| 09:02.38 | BabelO_ | ok i notice some problem with kmail 4 |
| 09:02.54 | BabelO_ | kiozen: because i did not get your email, so time for cof |
| 09:03.23 | kiozen | I send it to private account, too |
| 09:05.56 | kiozen | BabelO_: hope I recalled your gmail address correctly |
| 09:20.11 | BabelO_ | kiozen: gmail is ok, but still nothing at office |
| 09:22.33 | kiozen | BabelO_: too many proxies on the firewall :P |
| 09:23.30 | Marajin_ | sometimes I hate windows -.- |
| 09:24.04 | BabelO_ | kiozen: that's strange .. ithink there is priority depending size of email, that's why, your email will be in mailbox around 12:00 :) |
| 09:36.27 | BabelO_ | kiozen: something fail to build error C2371: 'PVALUE' : redefinition; different basic types |
| 09:37.03 | kiozen | BabelO_: hm, for linux it worked |
| 09:37.46 | kiozen | BabelO_: you ever tried wince and active sync? |
| 09:37.46 | BabelO_ | kiozen: i check, maybe i do something wrong with merging |
| 09:38.06 | BabelO_ | kiozen: yes my Artemis is like that at office |
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| 09:38.18 | fo_Q | hi all |
| 09:38.25 | BabelO_ | hi fo_Q |
| 09:40.47 | fo_Q | do anyone know if its possible to install linux permanently on htc-magician not haret.exe ?? |
| 09:43.20 | BabelO_ | fo_Q: not at the moment |
| 09:43.40 | fo_Q | ah ok |
| 09:44.02 | fo_Q | is there anyone working on that ? |
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| 09:50.10 | BabelO_ | kiozen: error come from v6.0A\include\winreg.h(117) |
| 09:52.04 | kiozen | Babel_ ??? no clue sorry |
| 09:54.07 | BabelO_ | kiozen: error is if i activate plot_3d in Ctrack3D... humm |
| 09:54.40 | kiozen | BabelO_ bad OpenGL istallation |
| 09:54.45 | kiozen | ? |
| 09:55.14 | BabelO_ | nooo |
| 09:55.44 | BabelO_ | kiozen: i think bad include :) CTrack include is too much called |
| 09:57.32 | kiozen | BabelO_: it can be included as often as possible |
| 09:57.55 | kiozen | BabelO_: there are ifdefs |
| 10:01.57 | kiozen | cr2_: active sync and virtual box do not like each other |
| 10:03.46 | BabelO_ | kiozen: it works for me in virtualbox :) |
| 10:03.59 | BabelO_ | at home i have activesync in virtualbox windows |
| 10:04.35 | kiozen | BabelO_: well, the device can't be connected, and I tried all tips and tricks I found |
| 10:05.08 | BabelO_ | kiozen: you have killed ipaq ? usbnet ? |
| 10:05.34 | kiozen | no just ndis drivers as suggested |
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| 10:08.31 | fo_Q | my device was also not shown for the devicemanager on xp if this is the problem |
| 10:10.37 | kiozen | BabelO_: what did you add to usb filter? |
| 10:11.02 | BabelO_ | kiozen: nothing, i first try with wm5storage and that was ok |
| 10:11.18 | BabelO_ | kiozen: you already use USB ? |
| 10:11.35 | kiozen | BabelO_: yes |
| 10:11.51 | BabelO_ | you reinstall vbox addiontion ? |
| 10:12.05 | kiozen | BabelO_: but I always need a filter to make the guest see the usb devices |
| 10:12.54 | BabelO_ | kiozen: oh really ? i never use it works like that for me |
| 10:14.44 | kiozen | BabelO_: what version do you use? |
| 10:15.40 | BabelO_ | kiozen: at home i have 1.6.2 somthing like that |
| 10:16.08 | BabelO_ | but i need to remove the ipaq / usbnet modules |
| 10:17.02 | kiozen | I removed all these modules, now the device is not in the filterlist anymore and not seen in guest system |
| 10:18.29 | kiozen | but I use 1.5.6 |
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| 10:19.45 | BabelO_ | kiozen: lol just got your email :) |
| 10:24.16 | BabelO_ | kiozen: how can i generate lib file from dll ? |
| 10:24.27 | BabelO_ | lib.exe ? i know in delphi but not msvc :) |
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| 11:11.16 | Marajin_ | yo dcordes |
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| 11:14.22 | dcordes | Marajin_, hi there |
| 11:14.43 | cr2_ | hi |
| 11:14.56 | cr2_ | BabelO_: objdump -p |
| 11:20.50 | dcordes | cr2_, I only get one char and one block device. when I run hexdump /dev/mtd0 it first prints a huge load of empty pages, then some partition is reached and 'normal' data is shown |
| 11:21.10 | dcordes | the offsets ginge tried seem to be wrong |
| 11:21.24 | dcordes | I ran HTCflasher on my host machine but it doesn't detect kaiser |
| 11:24.14 | dcordes | http://rafb.net/p/D6kt2o50.html |
| 11:26.49 | cr2_ | dcordes: dd to a file, then you will learn more about "some partition" |
| 11:27.37 | dcordes | ok let's hope msm_sdcc.o likes it |
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| 11:28.21 | cr2_ | dcordes: maybe htcflasher needs some patch ? |
| 11:28.24 | dcordes | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=431115 somebody says they have g1 |
| 11:28.37 | dcordes | cr2_, I think so. in the windows flasher it works fine |
| 11:28.43 | cr2_ | well, then they should dump a rom ;) |
| 11:28.52 | dcordes | they don't know how. maybe you can help |
| 11:29.12 | cr2_ | bbl, i need some food |
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| 12:16.41 | dcordes | cr2_, I get the block len error I also get when running fdisk /dev/mtd0, when I try and rund dd if=/dev/mtd0 of=/mtd0.raw |
| 12:16.57 | dcordes | it's a printk |
| 12:17.15 | dcordes | only when running hexdump mtd0 it doesn't show |
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| 12:30.34 | Arilou | dcordes do you know what the kind of error is this ? |
| 12:30.43 | Arilou | i just get the message |
| 12:30.54 | Arilou | trippoly LCD power off |
| 12:30.58 | Arilou | and hangs |
| 12:32.15 | Arilou | The device is Magician |
| 12:32.22 | Arilou | and the OS is OpenMoko |
| 12:33.15 | Arilou | someone help ? |
| 12:33.56 | dcordes | Arilou, does that happen after a while of no input? |
| 12:34.18 | Arilou | i dont know |
| 12:34.26 | dcordes | Arilou, it sounds like the driver gets a signal to turn off the display? |
| 12:34.38 | Arilou | but it goes okay when booting |
| 12:34.50 | Arilou | it was loaded |
| 12:34.51 | dcordes | I think it is a power management function |
| 12:34.55 | Arilou | by the statys bar |
| 12:35.06 | Arilou | where to set up that ? |
| 12:35.21 | dcordes | maybe openmoko sends the device to suspend |
| 12:35.33 | Arilou | maybe... |
| 12:35.40 | dcordes | but don't know where to set |
| 12:36.12 | Arilou | damn... |
| 12:36.21 | Arilou | i booted GPE successfully |
| 12:36.34 | Arilou | but...why OpenMoko won't boot ? |
| 12:37.06 | dcordes | Arilou, sorry I have no magician |
| 12:37.23 | dcordes | exco has one |
| 12:37.23 | Arilou | where is exco ? |
| 12:37.42 | dcordes | idk |
| 12:38.05 | Arilou | damn... |
| 12:40.52 | Arilou | gtg |
| 12:40.54 | Arilou | see ya later |
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| 12:42.32 | cr2_ | dcordes: there should be some way to tell nand driver that the blocksize is 0x800, and not 0x200 (default?) |
| 12:43.11 | dcordes | the nandid has the blocksize. why doesn't the driver use it? |
| 12:47.35 | cr2_ | dcordes: i didn't look into the driver internals. |
| 12:47.48 | dcordes | writesize and readsize seem to be the things to change |
| 12:47.54 | dcordes | but it seems complicated to me |
| 12:48.23 | cr2_ | dcordes: wtf is 'reversed block' ? i think it's the biggest problem now. blocksize can be fixed. |
| 12:48.28 | dcordes | ginge__, can you tell me how to set the block size to 0x800 in msm_nand ? |
| 12:51.49 | dcordes | cr2_, where do you see reversed block? |
| 12:55.58 | cr2_ | dcordes: in the 'info 8' output |
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| 13:11.30 | dcordes_ | HTCflasher keeps telling me [!!] Your device can't be identified! |
| 13:12.24 | dcordes_ | cr2_, yesterday I said camera button + power on boots kaiser into oesmbl mode. that's wrong. it is dial + camera + power on |
| 13:14.38 | dcordes_ | then you get a black screen, green led is on, and the airprime driver provides the serial devices |
| 13:26.41 | BabelO_ | kiozen: 3dview works on windows now :) |
| 13:27.00 | kiozen | cool, any fixes? |
| 13:28.34 | cr2_ | dcordes_: diamond/raphael does not have green led, and camera button. |
| 13:28.50 | cr2_ | BabelO_: what is the ocr program of choice ? |
| 13:28.54 | cr2_ | hi kiozen |
| 13:29.00 | kiozen | hi cr2_ |
| 13:29.10 | cr2_ | kiozen: pdocread :) |
| 13:29.24 | cr2_ | BabelO_: ocrad ? :) |
| 13:29.31 | kiozen | cr2_: active sync does not like my virtual box :( |
| 13:30.10 | cr2_ | BabelO_: i have a very old diploma thesis from 1982 scanned, i'd like to get the text. It's a real typewriter text |
| 13:30.25 | cr2_ | kiozen: no windows computer around ? |
| 13:30.50 | dcordes_ | cr2_, yea. bbiab |
| 13:30.53 | kiozen | cr2_: no, killed the last a couple of month ago |
| 13:32.01 | BabelO_ | cr2 we made some test a month ago and it seem that russian OCR cuneiform is the best opensource :) should give you very good result |
| 13:32.23 | kiozen | cr2_: either I sneak my wife's laptop on the weekend (which is really hard at the moment), or I try to get a more recent VM running on my laptop |
| 13:33.02 | BabelO_ | cr2_: http://www.cuneiform.ru/eng/index.html |
| 13:33.22 | kiozen | BabelO_: lol, it has been the russian doing the best ocr at the end ofthe 80's, too |
| 13:33.46 | BabelO_ | kiozen: they are still the best, abbyy works very well |
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| 13:34.05 | kiozen | seems to be a russian thing :) |
| 13:34.16 | BabelO_ | cr2_: you understand russian ? |
| 13:34.59 | BabelO_ | kiozen: i can't provide you a fix because i change the msvc includes , lol |
| 13:35.14 | kiozen | ouch! |
| 13:35.44 | BabelO_ | kiozen: it seem that when i compile under windows i have not UNICODE defined and that's the problem |
| 13:36.14 | kiozen | windows sucks |
| 13:36.16 | BabelO_ | kiozen: thre is a PVLAUE declaration in winreg.h :( |
| 13:37.06 | BabelO_ | cr2_: this ocr give results closest to Abbyy in his professional version, free version have some lack, but works greater than all other free |
| 13:38.48 | BabelO_ | kiozen: map is not rescaled to fit the track in 3D ? |
| 13:39.59 | kiozen | BabelO_: yes, many small quircks as he said |
| 13:39.59 | kiozen | BabelO_: but still fun too play |
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| 13:43.29 | BabelO_ | kiozen: yes agree, he use same extract method that we do for symbols finding |
| 13:43.35 | BabelO_ | i mean to extract map |
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| 13:44.35 | kiozen | BabelO_: think so but haven't found the line sofar :) |
| 13:44.39 | cr2_ | ok |
| 13:49.42 | BabelO_ | kiozen: do you ask to see waypoints in the d view too , lol that really a gadget, but fun |
| 13:50.47 | kiozen | BabelO_: sure, but icons in 3D, please :) |
| 13:51.10 | BabelO_ | oh yes |
| 13:51.19 | kiozen | BabelO_: let's wait until he is finished, code is still preliminary |
| 13:51.33 | BabelO_ | kiozen: but works ok |
| 13:51.45 | kiozen | yes :) |
| 13:51.57 | BabelO_ | kiozen: i still have a loop in the code somewhere when i switch to profile view |
| 13:52.31 | kiozen | BabelO_: track dependent? |
| 13:54.12 | BabelO_ | kiozen: yes, this error still come when i use elevation data :( |
| 13:54.44 | kiozen | can you dbg and break? |
| 13:55.50 | BabelO_ | i think yes, but later, i have started a volume test and my computer should be down for min :) |
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| 14:05.23 | BabelO_ | 45min i mean |
| 14:06.23 | kiozen | BabelO_: svn up, now you can weed out your front yard and count all trees, pine trees, scrubs and other things |
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| 14:18.54 | cr2_ | BabelO_: is it possible to search for rivers and lakes ? |
| 14:20.23 | kiozen | cr2_: you mean the strings or the blue stuff? |
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| 14:20.56 | cr2_ | kiozen: both would be perfect |
| 14:21.12 | cr2_ | kiozen: but the blue stuff should have a much higher priority |
| 14:21.31 | cr2_ | because it#s a PITA to add it manually to osm. |
| 14:22.12 | kiozen | cr2_: we think about picking a color to optimize search results, maybe that can help |
| 14:22.15 | cr2_ | kiozen: the strings is just a color separation+ocr |
| 14:22.49 | kiozen | cr2_: strings a hard as they do not have a horizontal alignment |
| 14:23.03 | cr2_ | i had funny results with bruteforcing the 8color palette |
| 14:23.14 | cr2_ | hmm. yes |
| 14:23.42 | kiozen | isn't there world wide free hydro data? |
| 14:23.43 | cr2_ | i think i've looked at the TOP palette... |
| 14:23.54 | cr2_ | vmap0 ? |
| 14:24.31 | Arilou | someone know how to fix this ? |
| 14:24.32 | cr2_ | i guess its quality may match the road and railways quality there. |
| 14:24.40 | Arilou | i try to boot OpenMoko from my magician |
| 14:24.51 | Arilou | and the last line is |
| 14:24.58 | Arilou | toppoly LCD power off |
| 14:25.02 | Arilou | and hangs ! |
| 14:25.05 | cr2_ | Arilou: you should ask pH5 |
| 14:25.19 | Arilou | but where is he ? |
| 14:26.50 | kiozen | bbl |
| 14:28.36 | cr2_ | Arilou: he has written this code |
| 14:28.43 | Arilou | damn... |
| 14:29.06 | Arilou | the only successed booted image |
| 14:29.07 | Arilou | is |
| 14:29.08 | Arilou | GPE |
| 14:29.20 | Arilou | other is just fail |
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| 15:00.38 | Arilou | finnaly success for Magician |
| 15:00.47 | Arilou | but there's a error |
| 15:00.52 | Arilou | connecting to gsmd |
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| 15:01.48 | BabelO_ | cr2_: yes it is just following lines :) |
| 15:03.48 | BabelO_ | cr2_: do you try newest features on your maps ? |
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| 15:05.03 | miknix | BabelO_, aic23 ? |
| 15:06.17 | BabelO_ | miknix: ? sound on wizard ? don't know where it is wired |
| 15:06.37 | miknix | but, do you have sound on artemis? |
| 15:06.43 | miknix | I mean, you did find a driver? |
| 15:06.57 | miknix | s/did finf/found/ |
| 15:09.27 | BabelO_ | miknix: no, want gsm before sound |
| 15:09.50 | miknix | ok.. I also saw you are using the typhoon gsm |
| 15:09.56 | miknix | does it work for you? |
| 15:10.07 | BabelO_ | miknix: but without success |
| 15:10.29 | BabelO_ | miknix: i explain to ali1234 how to use blueangel dpram driver to create a tty gsm driver for wizard |
| 15:11.06 | miknix | I have some time now |
| 15:11.15 | miknix | better put hands at work |
| 15:13.32 | miknix | BabelO, want to move the typhoon driver to drivers/something or you will need to turn it board dependent? |
| 15:14.57 | cr2_ | BabelO_: no, was just a question in the ocr context |
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| 15:15.04 | BabelO_ | miknix: first work is to move typhoon gsm to tty compliant driver, so it can be used in android or qtopia |
| 15:15.16 | miknix | I'll do that then |
| 15:15.32 | BabelO_ | miknix: ok |
| 15:16.47 | BabelO_ | cr2_: ok tell me when you use cuneiform ;) about extracting text from maps is a good idea too |
| 15:25.09 | miknix | BabelO, do you have a link to blueangel dpram driver somewhere' |
| 15:25.10 | miknix | ? |
| 15:29.06 | BabelO_ | miknix: http://handhelds.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/~checkout~/linux/kernel26/arch/arm/mach-pxa/htcblueangel/blueangel_dpram.c?rev=1.4&content-type=text/plain |
| 15:29.14 | miknix | ty |
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| 16:10.29 | dcordes_ | cr2_, I wrote 30megs of mtd0 on my card using hexdump. |
| 16:11.36 | Marajin_ | dcordes_: without killing it? did you sacrifice a goat to the voodoo gods first? ;) |
| 16:12.42 | NetRipper | Kevin2, in haret, how do I debug the part after MMU is disabled? i.e. i want to find out if it enters the preloader() method. I had added a small piece of code to turn on the flashlight right when the preloader() enters. It works on my Hermes device (using other physical addresses obviously) which tells me my method of turning on the flashlight is working, but it doesn't work on my Raphael (and i'm sure I have the correct addresses) |
| 16:13.30 | NetRipper | Kevin2, so, i believe it doesn't enter the preloader() method, it hangs before it in the trampoline probably |
| 16:14.37 | NetRipper | Kevin2, however, i have once seen the "in pr" (of "in preloader...") message being painted partially which i captured on a picture... so there's a chance it goes into the preloader() method like once in a hundred tries... any suggestions? |
| 16:14.56 | NetRipper | gtg dinner now |
| 16:14.57 | NetRipper | bbl |
| 16:18.46 | cr2_ | NetRipper: why don't you just disable the fb output completely ? |
| 16:19.22 | cr2_ | NetRipper: haret should stop and disable all dma at boot. |
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| 16:21.51 | dcordes_ | Marajin_, I ate a goat before |
| 16:22.09 | Marajin_ | dcordes_: a whole goat? you must have been very hungry |
| 16:22.25 | dcordes_ | Marajin_, and I still am. but it didn't help. the card died nevertheless |
| 16:22.32 | dcordes_ | after 30 megs |
| 16:22.33 | Marajin_ | ah well |
| 16:22.56 | Marajin_ | is cooking rib eye steak burgers with thick cut chips. |
| 16:23.04 | Marajin_ | much tastier than sacrificial goat :p |
| 16:23.12 | dcordes_ | home made burgers are nice |
| 16:23.24 | Marajin_ | rib eye steak is nice. |
| 16:23.32 | dcordes_ | what are steak burgers? |
| 16:24.03 | dcordes_ | I only know ham burgers |
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| 16:25.01 | dcordes_ | t-mobile germany will sell the raphael soon |
| 16:25.15 | Marajin_ | steak is meat from a cow, but unlike beef it's only special cuts |
| 16:25.40 | zdooder | What is the best way to map out a cpld/egpios? Is there a best practice? |
| 16:25.47 | dcordes_ | what's a burger in that context? |
| 16:26.26 | Marajin_ | dcordes_: Well it's like a hamburger as you'd call it, hamburgers are made from beef (despite the name implying they're made from pig) |
| 16:26.28 | dcordes_ | zdooder, I think you need to add the base address of the cpld device in haret and then trace |
| 16:27.45 | dcordes_ | Marajin_, ok I will stick with a pizza for now |
| 16:27.47 | zdooder | dcordes_: like add a new var, add the base address to it, and "watch" it, ibit spammers in it, repeat etc? |
| 16:28.05 | dcordes_ | zdooder, no I mean in haretconsole. look at regs-msm.py |
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| 16:30.14 | zdooder | dcordes_: ok that helps, thanks! |
| 16:31.09 | dcordes_ | zdooder, you can use http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=KaiserMemoryMap for reference |
| 16:31.18 | dcordes_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:31.50 | zdooder | dcordes_: is there a kaiser-specific regs_msm.py? |
| 16:32.51 | ali1234 | zdooder: i thought you were on titan/vogue? |
| 16:33.14 | dcordes_ | zdooder, can't you trace vogue cpld ootb already? |
| 16:33.28 | zdooder | ali1234: Yep, titan, just looking to compare |
| 16:33.29 | dcordes_ | zdooder, ./regs_misc.py:Regs_Kaiser.update(getEGPIOdefs(0x98000000, 10)) |
| 16:33.46 | dcordes_ | that's the kaiser cpld base address |
| 16:34.21 | ali1234 | on wizard the egpio is on i2c bus |
| 16:35.04 | dcordes_ | Marajin_, you got me hungry of pizza. bbiab |
| 16:35.12 | Marajin_ | dcordes_: hah, enjoy |
| 16:35.13 | zdooder | dcordes_: not sure how would you trace it normally? (if I'm right, vogue has an irq on the cpld, titan doesn't seem to -- sort of like how Kaiser I don't think has one right?) |
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| 16:50.55 | BabelO_ | kiozen: is it meeting day ? |
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| 17:01.14 | kiozen | BabelO_: thursday |
| 17:01.39 | kiozen | still some time for perfection :) |
| 17:07.09 | NetRipper | cr2_, disabling framebuffer output doesn't help |
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| 17:07.57 | NetRipper | cr2_, and enabling the flashlight in the preloader does work for my Hermes |
| 17:08.24 | NetRipper | cr2_, it just seems haret isn't getting in the preloader() for my raphael device |
| 17:08.42 | NetRipper | cr2_, i dont see linux working if haret won't boot it, do you? ;-) |
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| 17:37.18 | Arilou | someone know how to mount a JFFS2 filesistem ? |
| 17:38.15 | ali1234 | Arilou: yes. first write it to a mtd device, then mount it |
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| 17:39.10 | ali1234 | Arilou: like this http://wiki.buici.com/wiki/Mounting_JFFS2_Filesystem_in_RAM |
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| 17:41.47 | Arilou | ali1234 |
| 17:41.51 | Arilou | i see that mi distro |
| 17:42.01 | Arilou | doesn't support mtdram module |
| 17:42.02 | Arilou | ") |
| 17:42.07 | Arilou | * :( |
| 17:42.11 | ali1234 | try mtdblock then |
| 17:42.38 | ali1234 | hmm |
| 17:42.58 | Arilou | even that |
| 17:43.21 | ali1234 | you are out of luck then, i dont know any other way |
| 17:44.09 | Arilou | stupid slax distro... |
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| 17:47.45 | cr2_ | NetRipper: there should be a way through RAPHDIAG.nbh |
| 17:49.16 | cr2_ | NetRipper: htc-flasher should be able to create an .nbh file, i hope |
| 17:54.21 | NetRipper | raphdiag? |
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| 17:54.33 | NetRipper | cr2_, raphdiag? is that new? haven't heard of it |
| 17:54.45 | dcordes_ | ginge___, pinge |
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| 18:03.00 | szsoftware | evening |
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| 18:07.34 | zule | NetRipper, that would be the filename a raphael might try to flash itself with if found on it's sd card |
| 18:08.13 | NetRipper | zule, ah, nice |
| 18:08.39 | NetRipper | does it flash another part besides via usb / bootloader then? |
| 18:08.39 | NetRipper | ;) |
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| 18:09.19 | zule | well, it's the spl that has the code to run it, but it flashes the data from the sd card directly |
| 18:09.28 | zule | it's still going to verify checksums etc though |
| 18:09.31 | zule | unless patched |
| 18:10.04 | zule | but the diag image does launch some code via the sd card |
| 18:10.10 | NetRipper | ok |
| 18:10.20 | zule | maybe he means a hacked image of the kernel |
| 18:10.25 | zule | that would be executed |
| 18:10.41 | zule | just get the jump into the write address |
| 18:10.47 | zule | right* |
| 18:10.49 | zule | heh |
| 18:11.07 | NetRipper | yea, who is "he"? cr2_ ? |
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| 18:11.18 | NetRipper | nice find anyhow :) |
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| 18:19.07 | szsoftware | dcordes_: around? |
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| 18:21.37 | szsoftware | dcordes_: I just read the logs. I'm sorry, didn't told you, HTCFlasher needs your device beeing in Bootloader-Mode (TripleColorScreen), so it can talk with the bootloader |
| 18:26.08 | tsdogs | cr2_: mainline finally acepted style patch :) |
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| 18:36.34 | dcordes_ | szsoftware, did that |
| 18:37.02 | dcordes_ | szsoftware, my host loads the ipaq module. is that expected? |
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| 18:43.28 | szsoftware | dcordes_: I think, that should be ok |
| 18:49.29 | szsoftware | dcordes_: just tried it. You MUST have loaded ipaq because that is providing /dev/ttyUSB0 after connecting the pda |
| 18:51.02 | dcordes_ | ok |
| 18:51.12 | dcordes_ | it loads and I also think the link is ok+ |
| 18:51.40 | dcordes_ | HTCflasher does the first two steps well |
| 18:52.31 | szsoftware | dcordes_: maybe this can be a hint? http://pastebin.com/mde45bcf |
| 18:53.03 | szsoftware | dcordes_: what are the first two steps? |
| 18:53.16 | szsoftware | HTCflasher -i fails? |
| 18:58.08 | dcordes_ | yea same error |
| 18:58.11 | dcordes_ | can't obtain device info |
| 18:58.25 | szsoftware | dcordes_: hmm |
| 18:59.54 | szsoftware | dcordes_: and you have such lines in dmesg: ipaq 2-1:1.0: PocketPC PDA converter detected; usb 2-1: PocketPC PDA converter now attached to ttyUSB0 ? |
| 19:00.11 | dcordes_ | let me recheck |
| 19:02.46 | dcordes_ | szsoftware, eth1: register 'rndis_host' at usb-0000:00:1d.0-2, RNDIS device, <mac> |
| 19:02.53 | dcordes_ | instead of converter or so |
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| 19:04.12 | szsoftware | dcordes_: you have to uncheck, the extended usb functionality in wm, but didn't thougt it would be neccessary, when we are in bootloader mode |
| 19:05.20 | szsoftware | dcordes_: just for my security, maybe you said that: kaiser is in SPL now? |
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| 19:07.03 | dcordes_ | [29661.437572] usb 6-2: PocketPC PDA converter now attached to ttyUSB1 |
| 19:07.10 | dcordes_ | the rndis was in wince ^^ |
| 19:07.31 | dcordes_ | HTCflasher needs to be root? |
| 19:08.01 | dcordes_ | $ HTCFlasher -D /dev/ttyUSB1 -i |
| 19:08.42 | dcordes_ | maybe it's because I was using standard -D before ( USB0 ). but then I wonder why HTCflasher sets my PL2303 in nbh mode :D |
| 19:08.57 | szsoftware | dcordes_: as you've seen in the last pastebin, no |
| 19:08.59 | dcordes_ | works now thanks for the advise |
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| 19:09.23 | dcordes_ | szsoftware, how to get the nand stuff info? |
| 19:09.32 | szsoftware | hmm, info 8? |
| 19:10.08 | szsoftware | try info [0-11] or so, somewhere it's documented, but forgot :-( |
| 19:10.50 | szsoftware | dcordes_: oh, I even think I have this info from xda wiki, search bootloader, maybe wizard or hermes or so |
| 19:11.03 | dcordes_ | $ HTCFlasher -D /dev/ttyUSB1 info 8 ?? |
| 19:11.21 | szsoftware | dcordes_: maybe bootloaderDIAMOND |
| 19:11.25 | dcordes_ | I only wanna to get the nand info for now |
| 19:11.28 | dcordes_ | ? |
| 19:11.38 | dcordes_ | oh the wiki page. which command did you put? |
| 19:12.18 | szsoftware | HTCflasher -p |
| 19:12.36 | szsoftware | info 8 |
| 19:12.44 | szsoftware | is the right thing, just tried it |
| 19:13.24 | dcordes_ | ok worked |
| 19:13.35 | szsoftware | dcordes_: fine :-) |
| 19:13.55 | szsoftware | dcordes_: did you review the fbida stuff? |
| 19:14.58 | dcordes_ | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=KaiserNAND |
| 19:15.11 | dcordes_ | no I was too lazy to fiddle in all the packages seperately |
| 19:15.40 | dcordes_ | might make a new console image later and integrate it in the build |
| 19:15.41 | szsoftware | dcordes_: oh, which all packages? |
| 19:16.02 | dcordes_ | except for the error where OE doesn't find binutils it was ok |
| 19:16.12 | dcordes_ | the DEPENDS |
| 19:16.18 | dcordes_ | bbiab |
| 19:16.38 | szsoftware | dcordes_: so there wasn't that install error and you got a fbida*.ipk? |
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| 19:24.22 | Kalemas | hi all. oh. i haven't strengths to search on, let me ask you. What is the latest magician openmoko image? I just installed from linuxtogo.org and it can't start gsm... |
| 19:26.15 | szsoftware | dcordes_: regarding [polaris|kaiser]NAND wiki page, is it important to know the difference between kaiser polaris in this reversed block stuff? |
| 19:30.50 | exco | Hi Kalemas - that's expected |
| 19:31.15 | exco | If you're looking for a daily use image or an end-user image - there just isn't one available (yet) |
| 19:32.14 | exco | Kalemas: if you use this one though http://www.linuxtogo.org/~ph5/ and disable pin in windows for making calls ... you can make and receive calls with it |
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| 19:34.11 | szsoftware | bbs |
| 19:34.51 | TwinReverb | i'm new to htc apache. my friend has one and i'm borrowing it to play with. running linux from the sd card isn't cutting it: I'd like to put it on the actual machine. i'm following the instructions at http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/ApacheLinux |
| 19:35.24 | TwinReverb | basically i compile like instructions state, and then use the wince launcher, right? |
| 19:37.15 | TwinReverb | (i.e. like putting a ROM on the phone, right?) |
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| 19:41.23 | szsoftware | bb |
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| 19:42.05 | exco1 | that sh***ass****mother**** ubuntu just froze on me ... AGAIN |
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| 19:43.51 | Kalemas | exco: thank you for answer. disable pin?... but it is disabled, wince do not ask me for pin on start (and i still can make calls). maybe just try another sim? and a second question, how can i help with porting openmoko on magician? |
| 19:44.31 | exco1 | Kalemas: that depends on what you want to do / have the skills to |
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| 19:49.18 | dcordes_ | szsoftware, nope same error for me. |
| 19:50.07 | dcordes_ | szsoftware, do you have an account for OE bugzilla? |
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| 19:51.55 | szsoftware | dcordes_: not yet |
| 19:52.04 | dcordes_ | you could make |
| 19:52.30 | szsoftware | dcordes_: yes I could :-). |
| 19:52.34 | dcordes_ | you could make one, create a bug attaching your folder with the recipe and patches plus the error |
| 19:53.00 | szsoftware | dcordes_: will ask someone in #oe too |
| 19:54.19 | Kalemas | exco1: i can do any thing to make it closer. at all, im working professional artist-animator, can do any graphics work, and have a passion to programming |
| 19:54.46 | exco1 | that sounds really good |
| 19:54.59 | szsoftware | dcordes_: how to join PM or other channel (not in config) within irrsi? |
| 19:56.26 | dcordes_ | with ctrl p, ctrl n you can change windows, to join a chan use /join |
| 19:57.02 | szsoftware | dcordes_: ok, I just managed that, but how to make PM channel to a certain userà |
| 19:57.05 | szsoftware | ? |
| 19:57.19 | dcordes_ | I do that with /msg |
| 19:58.13 | szsoftware | dcordes_: ok thanks |
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| 20:14.52 | miknix | BabelO, ping |
| 20:15.02 | BabelO | miknix: yes |
| 20:15.26 | miknix | BabelO, I have the serial tty almost ready |
| 20:15.41 | dcordes_ | cr2_, same reserved block stuff in the kaiser partition table (from HTCflasher |
| 20:15.41 | BabelO | miknix: already ? |
| 20:16.04 | BabelO | miknix: you get dpram blueangel and copy write / read funtion from htc typhoon |
| 20:16.15 | miknix | hum.. |
| 20:16.35 | miknix | I'm not approaching like that |
| 20:16.55 | BabelO | how then ? |
| 20:17.19 | miknix | I'm just wrapping a tty interface to the fifo functions |
| 20:17.28 | miknix | not using a uart port |
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| 20:18.01 | BabelO | miknix: ok that good for fifo |
| 20:20.51 | miknix | BabelO, not sure if it will work, but its simpler |
| 20:21.55 | BabelO | miknix: so uart port is not needed ? |
| 20:22.01 | miknix | no |
| 20:22.28 | BabelO | sure ? i think it is needed to emulate the baud rate and other settings |
| 20:22.36 | BabelO | only tty can't work with android |
| 20:22.45 | miknix | OH |
| 20:22.46 | miknix | : \ |
| 20:22.50 | miknix | that was unexpected |
| 20:23.41 | TwinReverb | i'm new to htc apache. my friend has one and i'm borrowing it to play with. running linux from the sd card isn't cutting it: I'd like to put it on the actual machine. i'm following the instructions at http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/ApacheLinux Basically I download and configure/compile the programs to build a ROM to load with wince, right? (i.e. like putting a ROM on the phone, right?) |
| 20:23.49 | miknix | BabelO, drivers/net/wan/pc300_tty.c |
| 20:24.44 | miknix | but if android can use normal ttys, I better not waste my time with this approach : \ |
| 20:24.47 | miknix | *cant |
| 20:27.51 | BabelO | miknix: android use ttySx to access modem, i hope so |
| 20:27.56 | BabelO | dcordes_: can you confirm ? |
| 20:28.20 | miknix | : \ |
| 20:28.25 | miknix | that needs a uart |
| 20:29.05 | dcordes_ | BabelO, that's right |
| 20:30.03 | dcordes_ | BabelO, msm0 to be exact. it is not a real physical serial interface, but to the software it's the same as a ttySx |
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| 20:30.53 | dcordes_ | BabelO, circular buffers on shared mem areas, used to transfer data between arm9 and arm11 |
| 20:32.21 | miknix | BabelO, did you ever test the omap uart driver? |
| 20:33.03 | BabelO | miknix: i use it for gps and bluetooth it works well |
| 20:33.14 | miknix | ok |
| 20:36.33 | BabelO | dcordes_: thanks |
| 20:37.18 | miknix | lol |
| 20:37.35 | miknix | someone just killed me |
| 20:38.13 | miknix | "How do I give access permissions to root ?" |
| 20:38.19 | miknix | straight from messenger |
| 20:40.04 | BabelO | miknix: easy to answer :) |
| 20:40.27 | BabelO | miknix: take a cdrom with written Windows on top of it and insert it in your reader |
| 20:40.40 | miknix | lol |
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| 20:46.11 | BruteFrce | tmzt_ lol i didnt map a / so i cant run any commands lmao |
| 20:46.27 | BruteFrce | well not that require me to locate something |
| 20:47.21 | BruteFrce | oh hes not even here |
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| 20:51.59 | szsoftware | hey, guys. Whats is stripping a binary neccesary for? Will a unstripped one work too? |
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| 20:53.45 | NetRipper | stripping is removing debug symbols |
| 20:53.51 | NetRipper | should work without stripping too |
| 21:12.04 | TwinReverb | can someone help me? i'm confused as to which intel PXA2xx implementation a sprint ppc6700sp pocket pc is |
| 21:13.34 | TwinReverb | everything seems to indicate HTC Apache so i guess i should go with that... |
| 21:15.25 | szsoftware | dcordes_: I've finished the fbida.ipk Unfortunately fbi and exiftran are in the image without x-bit set. Dirty workaround ^^ |
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| 21:18.29 | TwinReverb | hmm why won't the make process compile an ARM kernel? |
| 21:19.48 | NetRipper | you have to set the ARCH=arm and CROSS_COMPILE=<crosscompilerprefix> |
| 21:21.17 | TwinReverb | i can't just download gcc for ARM, build it, then try again? :D |
| 21:23.10 | dcordes_ | szsoftware, x-bit? normally the program requires X11? |
| 21:23.32 | NetRipper | TwinReverb, you must have a toolchain for arm.. i.e. have a version of gcc that runs on your x86, which builds for arm |
| 21:24.46 | TwinReverb | [>.<] their website is horrible to find what i need brb |
| 21:27.12 | szsoftware | dcordes_: I meant executable flag |
| 21:27.20 | dcordes_ | szsoftware, ah you can select if you want the programs to have X support on compile time? |
| 21:28.29 | szsoftware | dcordes_: no no :-) I have only done a dirty work around for that install issue |
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| 21:29.30 | TwinReverb | NetRipper, thanks for your response. i don't see a gcc-arm*.tar.* anywhere. the website is confusing me somehow: i expect to see "build this if you want ARM support on existing gcc". i'd rather not compile gcc on a system already having gcc just go get arm support |
| 21:29.41 | TwinReverb | i'll check to see if slackware has a gcc-arm pack |
| 21:29.56 | szsoftware | dcordes_: so now I have to see, why I can't execute the ipkg ... ^^ |
| 21:30.37 | NetRipper | TwinReverb, it'll be the latter though, you will have a seperate gcc for arm |
| 21:30.44 | szsoftware | and I want to have these damn Symbols working on the frame buffer keyboard, grrr |
| 21:30.59 | NetRipper | TwinReverb, your command to build a kernel will be like: make ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=arm-linux- |
| 21:31.01 | dcordes_ | szsoftware, the image you use is bullshit |
| 21:31.07 | NetRipper | so that it uses arm-linux-gcc and arm-linux-g++ etc |
| 21:31.15 | szsoftware | dcordes_: oh, clear words |
| 21:31.33 | dcordes_ | szsoftware, what was the exact problem in the tgreer one? |
| 21:31.40 | TwinReverb | the latter? but the tarball says gcc- and there's no "arm" in the file name. that's what has me worried: i don't want to destroy my laptop's OS install just to try to install linux on a pocket pc |
| 21:32.01 | szsoftware | dcordes_: ok, will try tgreer again |
| 21:32.18 | NetRipper | TwinReverb, i think you can download precompiled toolchains from qtopia |
| 21:32.47 | TwinReverb | NetRipper, is there a way to compile the same version of gcc i already have, but tell it i want *only* the ARM portion? |
| 21:33.18 | szsoftware | dcordes_: is there no angstrom-console image in oe build tree? |
| 21:33.26 | NetRipper | TwinReverb, dont know |
| 21:33.46 | NetRipper | TwinReverb, i just downloaded a precompiled tar.gz and extracted it in my /opt |
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| 21:33.54 | dcordes_ | szsoftware, of course. bitbake console-image |
| 21:34.12 | NetRipper | TwinReverb, and put /opt/arm-linux/bin in my path, the binaries are called arm-linux-gcc so that they dont conflict with the usual gcc |
| 21:34.29 | NetRipper | s/arm-linux/arm-gcc/ |
| 21:34.31 | dcordes_ | szsoftware, the extracted initrd you have on your sd now is a "minimal-image" |
| 21:34.39 | dcordes_ | szsoftware, hence the 6mb of size |
| 21:34.45 | TwinReverb | ah thanks, i was just paranoid. i've done a slackware release to release upgrade before, and i know what screwing up gcc can do |
| 21:36.27 | szsoftware | dcordes_: ok will try to bitbake a more sufficient |
| 21:36.33 | BruteFrce | thats why you use gentoo |
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| 21:37.02 | dcordes_ | crap I'm stuck with a broken git revision of OE |
| 21:37.11 | dcordes_ | once again rm -r |
| 21:37.35 | dcordes_ | szsoftware, tgreer is based on x11-image iirc |
| 21:37.38 | TwinReverb | BruteFrce, excuse me? |
| 21:38.24 | dcordes_ | distro war? |
| 21:38.44 | BruteFrce | lol no need to take offense just an opinion. sorry. |
| 21:38.51 | BabelO | cr2_: still around ? :) |
| 21:39.02 | TwinReverb | problem was caused by me. wouldn't've mattered what OS it was |
| 21:39.21 | TwinReverb | ah a precompiled toolchain on the gnu arm page. NOW i get it. downloading...... |
| 21:39.27 | BruteFrce | distro |
| 21:39.48 | TwinReverb | wouldn't've mattered what distro it was |
| 21:40.08 | TwinReverb | could've been the best OS/distro in the world, but that wouldn't've saved it from my mistake :D |
| 21:48.52 | NetRipper | TwinReverb, gentoo has easy tooling to allow easy switching from arch to arch for cross-compiling environments |
| 21:49.04 | NetRipper | which is why BruteFrce is referring to it ;) |
| 21:49.25 | NetRipper | (i presume, as i cant read his mind :P) |
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| 21:56.03 | zule | yes yes, gentoo rocks... except when "emerge -uD world" breaks your system |
| 21:56.20 | BruteFrce | NetRiper ya... i just didnt want to start a war. |
| 21:56.54 | BruteFrce | lets just agree for what we use a computer for and distro is better than ms. |
| 21:58.26 | TwinReverb | i'd rathe use (shudder) ubuntu than windows |
| 21:59.12 | BruteFrce | hey whats wrong with ubuntu i dual boot ubuntu (for my wife and kids) and gento |
| 21:59.36 | Miek | ubuntu screwing me over was the reason i switched to gentoo, loved it ever since |
| 21:59.38 | TwinReverb | lol |
| 21:59.51 | BruteFrce | i have always apreciated debian and ubuntu for being easy to use to attract beginners |
| 22:00.04 | zule | ubuntu I found to have a high learning curve to being able to compile things with compared to gentoo |
| 22:00.15 | TwinReverb | i know it was a joke. i prefer mandriva personally but still, there has to be a newbie-centric distro |
| 22:00.18 | zule | since I thought the point of it was to be eaiser, I went back to gentoo |
| 22:00.20 | TwinReverb | better any linux than windows |
| 22:00.48 | TwinReverb | unpacks toolchain in /opt/arm |
| 22:00.50 | BruteFrce | imagine grandma trying to go straight to a stage 3 gentoo install |
| 22:01.05 | zule | that's pretty easy with their new live images |
| 22:01.25 | NetRipper | gentoo vs ubuntu is pretty much compile vs binaries |
| 22:01.25 | NetRipper | ;) |
| 22:01.35 | Miek | but i'm not grandma |
| 22:02.10 | TwinReverb | but when you compile what do you get? binaries |
| 22:02.26 | zule | no, optimized binaries |
| 22:02.26 | zule | :) |
| 22:02.34 | zule | lol |
| 22:03.01 | BruteFrce | but im just saying in the fight for marketshare linux vs ms, ubuntu is a god thing. |
| 22:03.11 | zule | very true |
| 22:03.12 | TwinReverb | has never seen any linux OS fail to compile with -Ox where x is s, 2, 3, etc) |
| 22:03.21 | zule | it's the only distro I recommend to people asking about linux |
| 22:03.28 | Miek | it's great when it works perfectly, but it doesn't always |
| 22:03.52 | TwinReverb | NetRipper, uh, ok, so specifying make ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=/opt/arm/yada/yada/yada still breaks |
| 22:04.08 | NetRipper | breaks on what |
| 22:04.27 | TwinReverb | NetRipper, hold on pastebin |
| 22:04.38 | NetRipper | and you also done a make menuconfig ARCH=arm |
| 22:04.39 | NetRipper | ? |
| 22:04.49 | BruteFrce | god/good |
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| 22:06.36 | BruteFrce | linux got me a promotion.. i reccomended us switching our 2000 workstations to linux since all we use is mail and a few tools, all written in java... saved thousands in licencing... |
| 22:06.44 | BruteFrce | the it guys loved it |
| 22:07.04 | TwinReverb | make menuconfig worked fine NetRipper :S |
| 22:07.48 | NetRipper | with ARCH=arm |
| 22:07.53 | TwinReverb | http://pastebin.com/m4a7f8b19 |
| 22:08.16 | NetRipper | use this: make ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=/opt/arm/gnuarm-4.0.2/bin/arm-elf- |
| 22:08.20 | NetRipper | without the gcc at the end |
| 22:08.28 | NetRipper | make: /opt/arm/gnuarm-4.0.2/bin/arm-elf-gccgcc: Command not found |
| 22:08.31 | NetRipper | you can see it appends it |
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| 22:11.20 | BruteFrce | its fun to go into the linux channel and ask them what distro is best for building then watch the fireworks |
| 22:12.37 | zule | lol |
| 22:12.47 | zule | I would think that would result in being ignored quickly |
| 22:12.54 | zule | or told a easy os and then ignored |
| 22:14.13 | BruteFrce | well its a leget question... |
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| 22:17.30 | zule | as legit as what's the best windows manager |
| 22:17.31 | zule | hehe |
| 22:18.32 | BruteFrce | enlightenment of course |
| 22:20.10 | zule | heh |
| 22:21.09 | zule | well we know he likes kde now |
| 22:21.11 | zule | :) |
| 22:22.16 | BruteFrce | ya maybe in a machine with 2gb of ram |
| 22:22.52 | TwinReverb | NetRipper, thanks afk |
| 22:23.13 | TwinReverb | NetRipper, still doesn't compile |
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| 22:43.20 | NetRipper | TwinReverb, other errors? |
| 22:43.57 | TwinReverb | none that i can see |
| 22:44.07 | TwinReverb | oh |
| 22:44.12 | TwinReverb | "cannot execute binary file" |
| 22:44.13 | TwinReverb | hold on |
| 22:44.50 | TwinReverb | yeah chmod +x don't fix it |
| 22:44.50 | NetRipper | obviously you can't launch an arm executable on your x86 |
| 22:45.06 | TwinReverb | i'm supposd to compile linux for arm ON the pocket pc? |
| 22:45.24 | NetRipper | no, you compile it FOR the pocket pc |
| 22:45.34 | TwinReverb | :S |
| 22:45.42 | TwinReverb | i give up for about an hour. time to eat and talk to wife |
| 22:46.00 | NetRipper | you will need a kernel to boot your pocket pc |
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| 22:46.22 | NetRipper | after compiling using make ARCH=arm etc... you will get a zImage, which is your kernel to boot your pocket pc with |
| 22:47.29 | NetRipper | sounds like you're missing some basic knowledge about this cross platform thing, perhaps you should google on it a bit :) |
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| 22:47.39 | NetRipper | i gtg to bed, good night |
| 22:54.55 | Arilou | iz someone know |
| 22:55.10 | Arilou | the good linux that support JFFS2 filesystem ? |
| 23:01.18 | wasup | arilou: what exactly do you mean? |
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| 23:06.06 | dcordes_ | Arilou, good = boots on your magician ? |
| 23:07.10 | Arilou | wasup i want |
| 23:07.18 | Arilou | to extract a QT-Extended |
| 23:07.28 | Arilou | from JFFS2 image |
| 23:07.32 | Arilou | but i have a slax |
| 23:07.49 | Arilou | that doesn't support JFFS2 :(( |
| 23:09.52 | Arilou | dcordes_ |
| 23:10.50 | wasup | maybe angstrom |
| 23:10.56 | dcordes_ | ah I see jffs2 is not in mainline right? |
| 23:11.04 | dcordes_ | you are talking about your host computer? |
| 23:13.25 | Arilou | yeah... |
| 23:13.27 | Arilou | :\ |
| 23:14.14 | wasup | Gentoo |
| 23:14.17 | wasup | linux? |
| 23:15.02 | Arilou | hmmm |
| 23:15.05 | Arilou | i have a |
| 23:15.10 | Arilou | GPE on my PDA |
| 23:15.19 | Arilou | can i mount here a image ? |
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| 23:36.06 | BruteFrce | tmzt_ ya there? |
| 23:40.47 | BruteFrce | hrmmm |
| 23:41.25 | tmzt | hi |
| 23:41.33 | BruteFrce | hi |
| 23:41.41 | BruteFrce | i didnt map a / |
| 23:42.03 | BruteFrce | so i couldnt run any commands that required one |
| 23:43.04 | BruteFrce | i mapped \ though |
| 23:43.07 | tmzt | you can usually cd instead |
| 23:43.18 | tmzt | shift-\ gives you | ? |
| 23:43.33 | BruteFrce | ya i got a pipe |
| 23:44.06 | BruteFrce | i cant cd cause / is the first thing i have to type after cd |
| 23:45.45 | tmzt | you can cd one directory at a time |
| 23:46.03 | tmzt | cd by itself should take you to $HOME, which is probably / |
| 23:46.38 | BruteFrce | ya i tried it wants a / first |
| 23:46.53 | BruteFrce | i tried cd proc |
| 23:47.06 | tmzt | cd .. |
| 23:47.13 | tmzt | pwd |
| 23:47.35 | BruteFrce | i cant even figure out where i am |
| 23:47.52 | BruteFrce | i did cd .. a bunch of times and ls returns nothing |
| 23:48.15 | BruteFrce | i need to map / |
| 23:52.19 | tmzt | pwd should tell you where you are |
| 23:52.28 | tmzt | did you get a new kernel? |
| 23:58.05 | BruteFrce | lol no but i tried from root to cd proc and it didnt work |
| 23:58.36 | BruteFrce | why would ls not return anything |