| 00:00.09 | NetRipper | Kevin2, they all return 0x00000000 |
| 00:02.10 | Kevin2 | !@#$#@ The arm documentation is horrible. |
| 00:02.21 | NetRipper | lol |
| 00:02.45 | Kevin2 | Can you retry with: "show cp(15, 0, 15, 2, 0)" and "show cp(15, 0, 15, 2, 1)" and "show cp(15, 0, 15, 2, 2)" and "show cp(15, 0, 15, 2, 4)" |
| 00:02.53 | NetRipper | ok |
| 00:03.42 | NetRipper | first 3 commands return: 0x01c97cc8 |
| 00:03.46 | NetRipper | last command returns: 0x00000000 |
| 00:04.11 | NetRipper | 3 also returns 0x0 |
| 00:04.19 | NetRipper | i mean, with 3 as last param |
| 00:04.36 | Kevin2 | NetRipper: Can you post the output of "dump mmu"? |
| 00:04.47 | NetRipper | i can |
| 00:06.02 | NetRipper | Kevin2, http://www.netripper.nl/raphael/20081011_mmudump.txt |
| 00:06.17 | szsoftwa1e | good morning! |
| 00:07.18 | szsoftwa1e | dzo: cr2_ can we do framebuffer rotation (maybe with kernel param) with msm fb? I don't mean fbcon:rotation |
| 00:07.55 | cr2_ | szsoftwa1e: maybe. |
| 00:08.06 | szsoftwa1e | dcordes: Oh, didn't see your msg, yeah aroud |
| 00:08.17 | szsoftwa1e | s/araud/around/ |
| 00:08.29 | szsoftwa1e | s/aroud/around/ |
| 00:09.01 | szsoftwa1e | cr2_: currently, not possibly ;-) |
| 00:09.54 | szsoftwa1e | cr2_: so say me how. Please :-) |
| 00:10.56 | dcordes | szsoftwa1e: can I suggest your fbi patches for commit in the OE bugtracker? |
| 00:11.47 | szsoftwa1e | dcordes: yes, you can. because you can. I think patches are ready now for deliver |
| 00:11.49 | dcordes | szsoftwa1e: git-add -r packages/fbi; git-diff packages/fbi > fbi-szsoftware.diff |
| 00:12.00 | Kevin2 | The arm6 mmu is a real work of art - total piece of crap IMO. |
| 00:12.25 | cr2_ | lol |
| 00:12.39 | cr2_ | szsoftwa1e: it's completely undocumented. |
| 00:12.54 | szsoftwa1e | dcordes: but currently display of fbi looks not so nice, because of portrait orientation of the framebuffer |
| 00:12.55 | dcordes | cr2_: msm_fb? |
| 00:14.33 | dcordes | szsoftwa1e: maybe we can look up how to rotate in the fb code of kaiser or other htcs |
| 00:15.19 | szsoftwa1e | dcordes: that wouldn't be nice only, it would be veeeeeeery appreciated |
| 00:15.21 | NetRipper | lol, i have no clue at all how to use the port remap register |
| 00:16.05 | NetRipper | would be nice if they'd provide a full example |
| 00:16.29 | NetRipper | instead of just reading/writing the register itself... on how to setup the register to be read/written |
| 00:16.34 | szsoftwa1e | dcordes: just got kernel sources, from a device, which does the trick, and gives kernel param rotate=[1-4] |
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| 00:18.40 | cr2_ | seeing mmu on. |
| 00:19.06 | Kevin2 | NetRipper: Okay, here is the deal. The access to 0x92f00000 doesn't actually go to ram at physical address 0xa9200000. You see, because T=2 and because neither C nor B flags are present, and because the bit 28 of coprocessor cp15/1 is not set -- well, then those memory accesses really go out to the "peripheral port" and don't touch memory at all. |
| 00:19.41 | Kevin2 | I'm sure some chip designer somewhere thinks the above is perfectly obvious.. |
| 00:19.49 | NetRipper | heh |
| 00:20.04 | NetRipper | Kevin2, so, we set bit 28 of cp15/1? ;) |
| 00:20.04 | cr2_ | c7,c7 and then c15,c2,4 |
| 00:20.28 | dcordes | bah my laptop battery is fried |
| 00:20.34 | Kevin2 | Nope - that will just bust a whole bunch of other things. (Or not - I have no idea what bit 28 is supposed to do.) |
| 00:21.12 | NetRipper | This bit controls the TEX remap functionality in the MMU, see Memory region attributes. 0 = TEX remap disabled. Normal ARMv6 behavior, reset value 1 = TEX remap enabled. TEX[2:1] become page table bits for OS. |
| 00:21.23 | Kevin2 | What dzo was suggesting is that we find another way to send data to the "peripheral port" so that you can access IO while the mmu is off. (Hence the peripheral port remap register.) |
| 00:21.47 | Kevin2 | Heh - if that meant anything at all to you.. |
| 00:21.57 | NetRipper | not much |
| 00:22.00 | NetRipper | just the "remap" part ;) |
| 00:24.20 | szsoftwa1e | dcordes: error: unknown switch `r' |
| 00:24.27 | dcordes | haha my ISP went funny. https://www.alice-dsl.de/kundencenter/export/de/al/optout/optout.html |
| 00:24.28 | szsoftwa1e | dcordes: fromgit-add |
| 00:25.04 | szsoftwa1e | dcordes: oh, so MY ISP did it too :-) |
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| 00:25.57 | szsoftwa1e | dcordes: Die eben angezeigte Suchergebnisseite bieten wir Ihnen an, um Ihren Aufenthalt im Internet produktiver zu machen. |
| 00:26.00 | Arilou | cr2_ thx for everything. i owe you one ;) |
| 00:26.08 | dcordes | szsoftwa1e: ok I think then it adds recursively without switches |
| 00:26.09 | szsoftwa1e | dcordes: Alice, thank you |
| 00:26.33 | dcordes | I feel mind controlled now |
| 00:26.47 | cr2_ | dcordes: they do dns spoofing ? |
| 00:27.23 | dcordes | cr2_: I don't know how to call it, but instead of 404 you get a alice-dsl branded google search box :) |
| 00:27.34 | cr2_ | ok |
| 00:27.34 | NetRipper | LSL (logical shift left) is same as << operator, right? |
| 00:27.37 | dcordes | I wonder how much it costs |
| 00:27.44 | dcordes | 10 million |
| 00:28.09 | cr2_ | Kevin2: i see how wince switches the mmu off. |
| 00:28.19 | cr2_ | s/wince/htc/ |
| 00:28.44 | Arilou | cr2_ can you just tell me which OS is best for Treo ? |
| 00:28.55 | NetRipper | cr2_, how and where do you see? ;) |
| 00:28.59 | cr2_ | Arilou: OS ? |
| 00:29.10 | Arilou | cr2_ i mean Linux |
| 00:29.12 | Arilou | sorry :) |
| 00:29.20 | cr2_ | NetRipper: in the spl, 'jump to 0xadd' code |
| 00:29.42 | cr2_ | Arilou: it's up to you, what to install into root. |
| 00:29.47 | dcordes | szsoftwa1e: I think about reporting it at verbraucherzentrale. when I made the contract with hansenet, they didn't tell me they would place advertisement in my http traffic. |
| 00:30.27 | cr2_ | dcordes: use privoxy ;) |
| 00:31.53 | szsoftwa1e | dcordes: I didn't know that redirect, but other similar and annoying redirects |
| 00:32.18 | szsoftwa1e | dcordes: the resulting szsoftware-fbida.diff is empty :-( |
| 00:32.25 | dcordes | szsoftwa1e: try it. type laöshdköasjbflaksbf in your browser's address bar |
| 00:33.06 | dcordes | szsoftwa1e: check with git-status (it should show the fbi folders and files you added in a 'new' category) if git-add worked |
| 00:34.08 | szsoftwa1e | dcordes: yeah already done, not exactly typed as your suggestion but it notworked-butworked haha |
| 00:34.45 | dcordes | szsoftwa1e: you said you got other redirects. what sort of? |
| 00:35.08 | szsoftwa1e | dcordes: let me remember/reconstruct .. |
| 00:37.01 | Kevin2 | NetRipper: I think you want to set the peripheral port register to 0xa920000b. |
| 00:37.31 | szsoftwa1e | dcordes: I remember when demanding alci.de you are redirected to aol with alice-content. But not the pricing informations. But if you're their customer you get the right page. |
| 00:38.34 | dcordes | alci.de takes me to alci.de |
| 00:38.54 | Kevin2 | NetRipper: You could try running "SET CP(15, 0, 15, 2, 4) 0xa920000b", but I think it might need to be done after the MMU is off. |
| 00:39.01 | szsoftwa1e | dcordes: git : http://pastebin.com/m5ff75eff |
| 00:39.02 | NetRipper | Kevin2, im experimenting, not sure if it makes sence though |
| 00:39.08 | NetRipper | no shoudl be able to do it before turning off mmu |
| 00:39.12 | NetRipper | according to docs |
| 00:40.45 | NetRipper | Kevin2, a memory address is not enough, it expects bits 31:12 to be memory address, and bits 4:0 to be the size to be remapped |
| 00:41.38 | NetRipper | it sets it though, and i can read it back |
| 00:41.58 | NetRipper | omg, this is leet |
| 00:42.06 | NetRipper | i even saw the framebuffer draw |
| 00:42.09 | dcordes | szsoftwa1e: oops I forgot you need to tell git what to diff against what: "git-diff origin/org.openembedded.dev" will include all the added changes |
| 00:45.58 | szsoftwa1e | dcordes: dcordes there is too much in the resulting diff file. A lot of untouched (by me) files |
| 00:46.48 | dcordes | recheck with git-status what's 'to be commited' |
| 00:49.52 | szsoftwa1e | dcordes: I dont' know how bitbake.conf comes in the diff but I can filter this. I didn't need origin/ |
| 00:50.27 | szsoftwa1e | dcordes: do I deliver to oe bugzilla? |
| 00:51.20 | dcordes | yep just specify org.oe.dev as branch and set the urgency to improvement |
| 00:51.52 | szsoftwa1e | dcordes: allright |
| 00:52.30 | NetRipper | Kevin2, confirmed that it gets into preloader() with that |
| 00:52.33 | dcordes | szsoftwa1e: maybe you did a git-add ./ accidently or so? that would explain why the local.conf was added |
| 00:55.25 | szsoftwa1e | dcordes: I don't know, everything is possible (done by a noob) :-) |
| 01:00.25 | NetRipper | Kevin2, im off to bed now, but seems i can continue debugging this way :) |
| 01:01.02 | dcordes | good night NetRipper |
| 01:01.04 | NetRipper | Kevin2, perhaps we can do the same trick for framebuffer |
| 01:01.12 | NetRipper | good night :) |
| 01:03.19 | szsoftwa1e | NetRipper: good night! |
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| 01:07.58 | Kevin2 | NetRipper: Okay - good night. |
| 01:11.06 | szsoftwa1e | dzo: around? What is needed to rotate msm framebuffer? Is there code available for a little cmd-line app? What about kernel param rotate=[1-4]? |
| 01:12.03 | dzo | i'm here, but not for long. I've never tried to rotate the console, should work I guess. |
| 01:13.10 | dzo | have you tried fbcon=rotate:1 |
| 01:18.48 | cr2_ | Kevin2: the gpio_conf registers (absent in android kernel) are not virtual |
| 01:19.08 | cr2_ | Kevin2: they can be accessed in mmu off mode. |
| 01:22.11 | szsoftwa1e | dzo: I dont mean fbcon but the whole framebuffer |
| 01:22.40 | szsoftwa1e | dzo: so that all apps per default in landscapeinstead of portrait |
| 01:23.18 | dzo | thats up to android to draw, the lid switch rotates it though (opens kbd on real device) |
| 01:23.20 | szsoftwa1e | dzo: someone said you wrote a tiny app for android? |
| 01:23.44 | dzo | I wrote a test sms app a while back |
| 01:24.13 | szsoftwa1e | dzo: so that android rotation stuff isn't kernel related? |
| 01:24.20 | dzo | no |
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| 01:25.55 | szsoftwa1e | dzo: can that android way done also with a cmd-line tool? |
| 01:26.39 | szsoftwa1e | dzo: so in the current state, if we wan't kernel fb rotation, it has to be written? |
| 01:27.47 | dzo | yes, send it a switch event to say the lid is open. There is a cmd but can't remember what it's called. |
| 01:29.39 | dzo | i't possible the msm_fb code could be changed to report the screen as landscape mode. |
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| 01:30.09 | jeremy89632 | is it possible to install android on elf? |
| 01:30.43 | szsoftwa1e | dzo: ok, will have a look at this stuff |
| 01:31.41 | szsoftwa1e | dzo: btw, what is the state of vogue-tson your device? On mine there are same symbols not typeable |
| 01:31.54 | szsoftwa1e | s/same/some/ |
| 01:32.08 | jeremy89632 | android working with Htc Touch? | Elf? |
| 01:32.28 | jeremy89632 | erms, elfin. |
| 01:33.14 | szsoftwa1e | dzo: the alt-modifier doesn'twork for some symbols in the 1st line and doesn't the 2nd and 3rd |
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| 01:36.26 | dcordes | good night |
| 01:37.19 | szsoftwa1e | dcordes: night |
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| 02:04.47 | Kevin2 | cr2_: Yeah - the 'V' stands for Vectored. |
| 02:05.04 | Kevin2 | (The 'V' in VIC that is.) |
| 02:05.16 | cr2_ | ok |
| 02:28.47 | cr2_ | Kevin2: it seems that the gpios are dual-mapped. they are also accessible for arm9 at the beginning of the CFG area. but now it's too late ;-) |
| 02:28.53 | cr2_ | good night |
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| 04:53.35 | tmzt | ALoGeNo: hey, what are you using on you universal now? |
| 04:54.17 | ALoGeNo | debian and titchy mixed |
| 04:54.36 | tmzt | cool |
| 04:54.36 | ALoGeNo | hey tmzt :) |
| 04:55.08 | ALoGeNo | yeah.. http://sumoudou.org/index.php?cmd=%E7%9B%B8%E6%92%B2%E5%A4%96%EF%BC%9AInstalling%20X%20in%20Debian%20on%20the%20Universal |
| 04:55.18 | ALoGeNo | that is that im using |
| 04:55.21 | tmzt | got the moto q booting into debian armel, built on the mp900c some time ago, but I don't have a network connection now |
| 04:55.49 | tmzt | now looking at porting the other pxa devices to 2.6.26 kernel on linuxtogo master |
| 04:55.55 | ALoGeNo | moto? |
| 04:56.01 | tmzt | motorola |
| 04:56.10 | ALoGeNo | oh.. |
| 04:56.20 | tmzt | you are using the titchy kernel? |
| 04:56.33 | ALoGeNo | yes have some issues with wifi |
| 04:56.37 | ALoGeNo | why? |
| 04:56.59 | tmzt | do you know what kernel version it is? |
| 04:57.06 | ALoGeNo | is the same kernel that last snapshot from qtopia and openmoko |
| 04:57.29 | ALoGeNo | oh, nope sorry.. |
| 04:57.39 | ALoGeNo | that kernel use initrd |
| 04:58.00 | ALoGeNo | im using the kernel from the link that i pasted |
| 04:58.29 | ALoGeNo | here is |
| 04:58.32 | ALoGeNo | http://sumoudou.org/uni/zImage |
| 04:59.17 | ALoGeNo | this is that im using or this or qtopia or openmoko (is the same kernel in the 3 cases) |
| 05:01.04 | ALoGeNo | the titchy kernel i think that is more old than the others :/ |
| 05:02.04 | ALoGeNo | tmzt what are u looking for?? |
| 05:02.17 | ALoGeNo | the most stable kernel? |
| 05:03.26 | tmzt | no, I am looking add support to OE for new kernels on the pxa devices (uni, magician, apache ..) |
| 05:03.56 | ALoGeNo | oh you are nice |
| 05:03.57 | ALoGeNo | xD |
| 05:03.57 | tmzt | if we get the new acx driver (wifi) working, it will be nice to get it on all the devices |
| 05:04.20 | ALoGeNo | ohhh very nice.. :D |
| 05:04.45 | tmzt | I am asking you because I will need someone to test on universal, whenever I get them built |
| 05:05.24 | ALoGeNo | i was thinking about the way to compile normal kernel for the uni but we need patches and config no? |
| 05:05.49 | tmzt | particularly the keyboard. though if titchy/sumoudou or whatever uses the new driver for keyboard it will be easier |
| 05:06.11 | ALoGeNo | we depend of the qtopia/openmoko and titchy developers no? |
| 05:06.26 | tmzt | the idea is to make it as close to upstream (linus/rmk) kernel as possible |
| 05:06.40 | ALoGeNo | yea |
| 05:07.06 | ALoGeNo | well i dunno what you mean with keyboard the mine its fine :P |
| 05:07.20 | tmzt | ok, then I need to get source for that |
| 05:07.44 | ALoGeNo | sumoudou is your man.. |
| 05:07.58 | ALoGeNo | what is not working for you? |
| 05:08.02 | tmzt | are you able to get special chars with a shift key |
| 05:08.08 | tmzt | no, I don't have universal |
| 05:08.15 | ALoGeNo | teall me some one.. |
| 05:08.27 | ALoGeNo | letme run that is wince. now |
| 05:08.41 | tmzt | just trying to make it easier to support all the htc's on this channel |
| 05:08.52 | tmzt | so they work pretty much the same way |
| 05:09.15 | ALoGeNo | okey :) |
| 05:10.43 | ALoGeNo | im using the icewm from sumoudou, and only i was needed put some scripts from titchy web for backlight keyb and that.. |
| 05:11.08 | ALoGeNo | i dont know if the phone work i think that yes.. |
| 05:11.09 | tmzt | I think I tried to download the X server from there for armel, but it didn't finish downloading |
| 05:11.18 | ALoGeNo | but i use the hermes like phone.. |
| 05:12.06 | ALoGeNo | just try the 250MB tarball from sumoudou |
| 05:12.23 | ALoGeNo | the X runs like a fuking devil.. |
| 05:13.11 | ALoGeNo | the uniq crap is the acx driver |
| 05:13.12 | ALoGeNo | Xd |
| 05:14.19 | ALoGeNo | it hangs the device sometimes.. and or puts tash in the screen.. |
| 05:14.28 | ALoGeNo | console* |
| 05:16.51 | ALoGeNo | tmzt tellme some character im loged now.. |
| 05:17.17 | ALoGeNo | what you cant write? |
| 05:18.18 | tmzt | I mean secondary characters, like / or " |
| 05:18.36 | tmzt | like you press a shift or fn or sym and then another character |
| 05:18.42 | tmzt | to get the symbol printed on it |
| 05:21.36 | ALoGeNo | yeah all is working |
| 05:22.01 | ALoGeNo | and if i press the light button it works! |
| 05:22.29 | ALoGeNo | and in the minimun level turn the backlightkeyb in on ;) |
| 05:22.38 | ALoGeNo | have 4 levels |
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| 05:46.28 | ALoGeNo | hi BabelO |
| 05:47.01 | ALoGeNo | tmzt you know if kristoffer was touch the 900c kernel? |
| 05:48.29 | tmzt | no |
| 05:48.48 | ALoGeNo | ok |
| 05:52.56 | BabelO | hi ALoGeNo |
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| 06:10.00 | ALoGeNoff | hey you know what will be ok in the 900c?, if we can use the screen like 2 screens 320x240.. like in the ipaq with opie or gpe.. |
| 06:10.10 | ALoGeNoff | you know what i mean? |
| 06:14.57 | tmzt | I think you can do that, two screens at the same time? |
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| 10:26.44 | exco | goxboxlive: why don't you let windows handle it? |
| 10:28.17 | exco | goxboxlive: what did you end up using? xp 32/64? |
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| 10:39.02 | goxboxlive | BabelO: the kernel you gave me where missing lvm-mod. It couldnt handle logical partitions. |
| 10:53.39 | kiozen | cr2_: around? |
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| 11:03.20 | kiozen | cr2_: which section do you need? |
| 11:29.51 | kiozen | cr2_: sent you the first 2 sections via mail |
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| 13:53.49 | dcordes | marajin: around? |
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| 14:16.03 | szsoftware | loop-test call script: hello szsoftware |
| 14:16.28 | szsoftware | q |
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| 14:49.17 | NetRipper | how do i update a local git checkout to the latest commit in the selected branch? |
| 14:51.04 | marajin | dcordes: what's up? |
| 15:02.29 | exco1 | NetRipper: git pull? |
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| 15:05.32 | NetRipper | exco1, git pull complains about this: |
| 15:05.32 | NetRipper | Warning: No merge candidate found because value of config option "branch.android-msm-2.6.25.merge" does not match any remote branch fetched. |
| 15:07.04 | NetRipper | to clone i used: git clone git://git.android.com/kernel.git kernel && cd kernel && git checkout -b android-msm-2.6.25 origin/android-msm-2.6.25 |
| 15:07.12 | NetRipper | did i make a mistake? |
| 15:10.27 | exco1 | I don't know :-) |
| 15:15.19 | NetRipper | heh eok |
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| 15:15.46 | NetRipper | i'll start clean, i see on a website i may need the --track when branching, so it tracks remote changes |
| 15:16.05 | szsoftware | test: hello szsoftware |
| 15:16.45 | NetRipper | schizofrenia |
| 15:17.06 | exco1 | let me know how it goes (gotta learn it sometime, too) |
| 15:17.07 | NetRipper | even the smart people go nuts |
| 15:17.11 | NetRipper | hehe ok |
| 15:17.26 | exco1 | even || mainly? |
| 15:17.38 | NetRipper | why or? |
| 15:17.52 | NetRipper | using && it will stop once one command fails ;) |
| 15:19.23 | NetRipper | exco1, do you by any chance have experience using control registers in asm and assembler in general? |
| 15:19.26 | NetRipper | :) |
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| 15:19.55 | szsoftware | script-test 2nd: Hello szsoftware |
| 15:20.08 | NetRipper | szsoftware, the psychiatry department is elsewhere :P |
| 15:20.11 | exco1 | I didn't get half that sentence ... let alone me knowing assembler :-) |
| 15:20.22 | NetRipper | exco1, lol ok |
| 15:21.18 | NetRipper | time for some bleach action, bbl |
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| 15:23.18 | szsoftware | script-test 3rd: Hello szsoftware |
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| 15:43.07 | szsoftware | script-test last: Hello szsoftware. "Kaum, macht man's richtig, schon klappts :-)" |
| 15:43.39 | szsoftware | script-test very last: Hello szsoftware. Kaum, macht man's richtig, schon klappts :-) |
| 15:48.01 | NetRipper | exco1, this worked: git clone git://git.android.com/kernel.git kernel && cd kernel && git checkout --track -b android-msm-2.6.25 origin/android-msm-2.6.25 |
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| 15:48.06 | NetRipper | exco1, im now able to use git pull ;) |
| 15:48.19 | NetRipper | just fyi ;) |
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| 15:50.20 | kiozen | cr2_: ? |
| 15:50.45 | exco1 | NetRipper: different config? did you commit your changes / merge the branch ? |
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| 15:51.01 | NetRipper | exco1, no i rm -rf all and started fresh |
| 15:51.22 | marajin | dcordes: yo? |
| 15:51.23 | NetRipper | exco1, only difference is that i used the --track when checking out |
| 15:51.23 | exco1 | same approach, NetRipper? |
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| 17:29.33 | dcordes | marajin: would you like to help making htc-linux.org a nice central platform for the htc stuff? |
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| 17:46.35 | marajin | dcordes: Um sure |
| 17:48.25 | dcordes | marajin: we should make a concept first what we need |
| 17:48.36 | marajin | dcordes: sure thing |
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| 17:49.43 | dcordes | marajin: idk about documentation. there's the xda wiki already. we could just clone all of the linux specific stuff. what do you think? |
| 17:50.23 | marajin | dcordes: well the xda wiki is sometimes hard to find the linux relevant stuff for devices but we could clone what's there and then make a point of organizing it |
| 17:50.43 | dcordes | ok sounds good |
| 17:51.15 | dcordes | that's a true point with the linux stuff hard to find. I guess many people think the same |
| 17:51.31 | dcordes | should we go for media wiki? |
| 17:51.44 | dcordes | imho that's the most convenient |
| 17:53.10 | marajin | maybe, or maybe a full CMS with a wiki included? |
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| 18:12.39 | dcordes | marajin: sorry, what's CMS? |
| 18:12.46 | BabelO | ola goxboxlive, sorry was not here since this morning |
| 18:13.19 | BabelO | goxboxlive: was at a rallye :) |
| 18:13.39 | NetRipper | dcordes, content management system, to edit pages online |
| 18:14.22 | NetRipper | though, another site next to xda? |
| 18:14.25 | goxboxlive | BabelO: ok, BabelO who won? Petter Solberg, or Sebastian Loeb? |
| 18:14.45 | dcordes | NetRipper: yea linux specific only |
| 18:14.58 | NetRipper | most devices have a xxxResearch page on xda wiki |
| 18:15.03 | NetRipper | RaphaelResearch |
| 18:15.05 | NetRipper | HermesResearch |
| 18:15.05 | BabelO | goxboxlive: not this one :) another |
| 18:15.12 | NetRipper | DiamondResearch KaiserResearch |
| 18:15.21 | NetRipper | which is the "portal" to linux investigations |
| 18:15.26 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 18:15.58 | BabelO | goxboxlive: so did you install debian ? |
| 18:16.28 | dcordes | NetRipper: yes that's true. but we can copy it easily and the advatages are less of the confusing/unnecessary wince stuff, no advertisement, ... |
| 18:16.29 | goxboxlive | BabelO: no, i still have a lot of trouble. |
| 18:16.41 | NetRipper | adblock plus :P |
| 18:16.46 | BabelO | goxboxlive: for ? |
| 18:17.02 | dcordes | NetRipper: more striking url |
| 18:17.03 | BabelO | goxboxlive: lvm is strange requirement, but i can add it |
| 18:17.12 | marajin | dcordes: Content Management System |
| 18:17.40 | dcordes | marajin: if you think that's good let's use it |
| 18:17.42 | goxboxlive | Winxp is installed, and win 'explore2fs' i can di some backups and take a look at menu.lst for brub. I am trying to make a grub install on my usb stick to boot my old linux installation |
| 18:17.50 | dcordes | marajin: don't know much about these things yet |
| 18:18.01 | NetRipper | dcordes, true, i see your point, just wouldn't be sure if it would get the attention it deserves... i'd be afraid it'd just split up the htc community |
| 18:18.12 | marajin | dcordes: depends how you want to structure the site, CMS makes sense if you wanna post like articles and news pages and maybe forums, otherwise just plain wiki'd be ok |
| 18:18.12 | goxboxlive | yes, i couldnt use my logical drives as /boot and such |
| 18:18.20 | NetRipper | dcordes, anyway, you got my blessing ;) |
| 18:18.43 | dcordes | NetRipper: in what way do you think it would split anything? |
| 18:19.24 | NetRipper | like certain people may be using both xda and htc-linux, and make a choice sometime to drop one |
| 18:19.34 | NetRipper | xda is now htc only, and everything about htc |
| 18:19.50 | BabelO | goxboxlive: where is lvm module ? |
| 18:19.51 | NetRipper | wince and linux |
| 18:19.57 | NetRipper | my dinner is ready, gtg, back in an hour |
| 18:20.01 | marajin | dcordes: I gotta go eat but I'll be back in a bit |
| 18:20.32 | exco | you could always combine a mediawiki with a forum and a cms later , dcordes & marajin |
| 18:20.34 | dcordes | NetRipper: well I didn't see it in that way. thanks for your opinion |
| 18:21.00 | dcordes | marajin: k I'm also gone now |
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| 18:52.33 | BabelO | ~ping goxboxlive |
| 18:52.34 | apt | pong goxboxlive |
| 18:59.45 | NetRipper | dcordes, as you say, it's just an opinion, and i may be wrong as well ;) |
| 19:25.09 | cr2_ | hi |
| 19:26.33 | cr2_ | NetRipper: i've copied many pages to hh.org wiki, but it's also a bit strange resource. |
| 19:27.41 | cr2_ | some pages are unique, and it's bad. if one site(s) will go down, they will be lost. i don't have a backup even for the pages written 100% by me |
| 19:28.54 | cr2_ | xda-dev is a high-volume site (you see it because it fails so often :) |
| 19:29.11 | NetRipper | they just have bad hardware :p |
| 19:29.29 | cr2_ | xda-dev is good for the overall linux propaganda (=advertising) |
| 19:30.03 | NetRipper | only way to make sure the work you post on wiki's isn't lost is by making backups yourself |
| 19:30.03 | cr2_ | i can remember the times when a search for 'linux' on xda-dev gave 5-10 hits :) |
| 19:30.08 | cr2_ | try it now. |
| 19:30.12 | NetRipper | yes |
| 19:30.27 | NetRipper | it's gotten quite a boost, and the search of xda isn't good :P |
| 19:30.57 | cr2_ | i've written too much, and often don't remember where. |
| 19:31.22 | cr2_ | maybe the most critical things are the N560 page(s) and P4225 on hh.org |
| 19:31.31 | cr2_ | this info is really unique. |
| 19:31.40 | cr2_ | maybe i'd backup them somewhere. |
| 19:32.06 | cr2_ | because it'd take a substantial amount of time to recover from scratch. |
| 19:32.52 | NetRipper | yep that'd be smart |
| 19:36.04 | szsoftware | dcordes: evening |
| 19:36.58 | cr2_ | NetRipper: i think i've found the "real" gpio location, but i'm not 100% sure if it'd be useful for us. |
| 19:37.07 | NetRipper | define "real"? |
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| 19:37.27 | goxboxlive | BabelO: hello |
| 19:37.29 | szsoftware | dcordes: I'm able to contribute the htc-linux.org. If there where php available, that would be nice :-) |
| 19:37.38 | NetRipper | cr2_, the current one works fine when enabled using the peripheral control register |
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| 19:39.27 | cr2_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:39.27 | cr2_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:39.27 | cr2_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:39.45 | NetRipper | aha |
| 19:39.50 | cr2_ | http://git.android.com/?p=kernel.git;a=blob;f=arch/arm/mach-msm/gpio_hw.h;h=e5fc229eababb19a682a849aaa6e45cda297602b;hb=7b3593fe5ec4ad5e07489484bd2ace949774545c#l24 |
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| 19:40.34 | cr2_ | NetRipper: but it maybe to dangerous to access the "real ones", because we may crash the arm9 microkernel that way. |
| 19:40.56 | NetRipper | dangerous as in permanent damage? |
| 19:41.02 | cr2_ | with all the phone/gps whatever stuff |
| 19:41.24 | diogene31_ | Good evening everyone. |
| 19:41.25 | cr2_ | no, just provoking a hard reset, and service unavailability |
| 19:41.34 | cr2_ | hi diogene31_ |
| 19:41.48 | NetRipper | hm ok |
| 19:42.04 | diogene31_ | cr2_: Do you know how the development of kernel is going on for the HTC TYTN II Kaiser ? |
| 19:42.34 | cr2_ | diogene31_: it's waiting for the G1 code release. |
| 19:42.38 | diogene31_ | cr2_: There is a big discount in France ATM, and I was wondering ... |
| 19:43.03 | diogene31_ | cr2_: How would that help ? G1 is very different from Kaiser, isn't it ? |
| 19:43.34 | cr2_ | diogene31_: 7200 has some differences to 7200A, but we know most of them |
| 19:43.59 | cr2_ | diogene31_: i think the most annoying difference is the framebuffer hardware. |
| 19:44.24 | cr2_ | G1 is 7201A |
| 19:44.41 | NetRipper | does the haret framebuffer work on kaiser? |
| 19:44.54 | cr2_ | as are diamond/raphael |
| 19:44.58 | cr2_ | NetRipper: yes. |
| 19:45.01 | NetRipper | hm |
| 19:45.16 | diogene31_ | cr2_: So, fb is not working ? What about sd / wifi / bluetooth / gsm / audio /touchscreen ? |
| 19:45.30 | cr2_ | NetRipper: there is no 3d accel support hw on 7200 |
| 19:45.48 | NetRipper | and there is on the A |
| 19:46.16 | cr2_ | diogene31_: fb is working, but it's not so nice as 7200A, and you can't suspend/resume it. yet. |
| 19:46.22 | NetRipper | though it's weird it impacts framebuffer |
| 19:47.16 | NetRipper | haven't seen framebuffer code work on 7200A yet (besides G1) |
| 19:47.46 | cr2_ | diogene31_: sd works, but has dma probs. wifi = wait for G1, bt=wait for G1, gsm works, audio=ask dcordes, but it works on 7500, so it's not a big problem to make it work, ts=works, but is not perfect (tsc2003 i2c chip. without a dedicated irq) |
| 19:48.07 | NetRipper | cr2_, btw, i've confirmed haret makes it all the way to the point where it jumps to the zImage memory location |
| 19:48.15 | NetRipper | on raphael |
| 19:48.32 | cr2_ | NetRipper: ok. where does it crash in linux ? |
| 19:48.42 | NetRipper | it doesn't get into the start_kernel() |
| 19:48.48 | NetRipper | and im not sure where to find the asm that calls the start_kernel |
| 19:49.00 | cr2_ | NetRipper: i remember how we are single-stepping with Kevin2 in hermes over IR ;) |
| 19:49.01 | NetRipper | do you know the entry point of the kernel? |
| 19:49.11 | NetRipper | over IR? |
| 19:49.23 | cr2_ | NetRipper: what about the assembler startup code ? |
| 19:49.30 | NetRipper | yes, i can't find that file |
| 19:49.32 | NetRipper | lol |
| 19:49.36 | cr2_ | hermes had working IR on an uart. |
| 19:49.37 | NetRipper | do you know which? |
| 19:49.48 | NetRipper | that's sweet, that'd work great with debugging |
| 19:49.49 | cr2_ | i'll have a look. |
| 19:49.51 | NetRipper | ok |
| 19:50.12 | cr2_ | NetRipper: i don't know if it checks for the machine id. |
| 19:51.14 | NetRipper | think i got it |
| 19:51.36 | NetRipper | arch/arm/kernel/head.S |
| 19:52.32 | NetRipper | oh, that's after the decompressor |
| 19:52.40 | NetRipper | there's a decompression routine |
| 19:52.45 | cr2_ | btw, htc idle.S slows down the SDRAM (i think so) . android does not: http://git.android.com/?p=kernel.git;a=blob;f=arch/arm/mach-msm/idle.S;h=588eb072da8225312fe3bea981e981b804b68b3d;hb=7b3593fe5ec4ad5e07489484bd2ace949774545c |
| 19:52.57 | cr2_ | does decompressor write to UART1 ? |
| 19:53.09 | NetRipper | don't know, i disabled all UARTS |
| 19:53.14 | cr2_ | it was a huge PITA in the pxa times ;) |
| 19:53.25 | cr2_ | uncompress.h |
| 19:53.47 | cr2_ | the decompressor was hanging while writing dots to ffuart ;) |
| 19:53.56 | NetRipper | hm |
| 19:54.06 | diogene31_ | cr2_: I remember there was the ASIC3 special chip in HTC universal which was a real mess. Is there a similar undocumented chip(s) on the Kaiser ? I couldn't find on hh.org any hardware reference ... |
| 19:54.46 | cr2_ | diogene31_: kaiser has a CPLD, but the pins are documented. most of the relevant pins. |
| 19:55.30 | cr2_ | NetRipper: where do the dots go on msm ? |
| 19:55.40 | NetRipper | dont know |
| 19:57.25 | cr2_ | i'll look at uncompress.h |
| 19:57.51 | NetRipper | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:57.51 | NetRipper | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:57.51 | NetRipper | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:57.56 | NetRipper | haret doesn't do that |
| 19:58.07 | NetRipper | the r0, r1 and r2 |
| 19:58.18 | NetRipper | but perhaps decompressor is responsible for that |
| 20:00.18 | cr2_ | it does. |
| 20:00.21 | szsoftware | cr2_: evening. Do you know what code/file in kernel source asks for kernel boot params like "fbcon:font=foo"? |
| 20:00.37 | cr2_ | szsoftware: fbcon.c ? |
| 20:01.02 | NetRipper | oh, yes it does |
| 20:01.03 | cr2_ | dcordes: still here ? |
| 20:01.04 | NetRipper | lol |
| 20:01.05 | NetRipper | sorry |
| 20:01.24 | cr2_ | NetRipper: but is it checked by the msm code ? |
| 20:01.40 | cr2_ | NetRipper: that's why i've asked about the halibut MTYPE |
| 20:02.15 | NetRipper | cr2_, yes it is checked |
| 20:02.20 | szsoftware | cr2_: so every driver evalutates the kernel param line and there is no code for that to include? |
| 20:02.27 | NetRipper | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:02.27 | NetRipper | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:04.30 | cr2_ | NetRipper: how does halibut come through ? |
| 20:04.36 | szsoftware | cr2_: or no function like get_kernel_param(<param>)? |
| 20:04.39 | BabelO | goxboxlive: i m here now |
| 20:04.47 | NetRipper | cr2_, i'll check |
| 20:04.48 | cr2_ | otherwise everything hangs without any message. |
| 20:04.52 | NetRipper | yes |
| 20:05.29 | cr2_ | szsoftware: i think yes. |
| 20:05.59 | cr2_ | NetRipper: you can add 'flash_on' instead beq __error_a @ yes, error 'a' |
| 20:06.47 | NetRipper | i dont have a flash_on :p |
| 20:06.58 | NetRipper | i got a piece of asm |
| 20:07.03 | NetRipper | which i can insert |
| 20:07.09 | szsoftware | cr2_: hmm, what about that ops structure? what is that? |
| 20:07.14 | cr2_ | .globl flash_on |
| 20:07.41 | cr2_ | NetRipper: put your asm there. |
| 20:08.51 | NetRipper | cr2_, so, just .globl flash_on and below that line my asm code to enable flashlight? after that i can refer to it? |
| 20:08.56 | Kevin2 | NetRipper: Dumb question. Did you make sure you matched your haret machine id to the kernel's machine id? |
| 20:09.11 | NetRipper | Kevin2, not so much a dumb question......... ;) |
| 20:09.36 | NetRipper | was looking into that now |
| 20:10.06 | NetRipper | didn't even know it was passed on when calling entry point of kernel |
| 20:12.02 | cr2_ | Kevin2: what is the halibut machine id ? |
| 20:12.22 | NetRipper | 1439 iirc |
| 20:12.33 | cr2_ | NetRipper: set mtype 1439 |
| 20:12.49 | cr2_ | in your haret startup |
| 20:12.50 | NetRipper | cr2_, just did that, but doesn't boot to start_kernel |
| 20:12.58 | Kevin2 | You compiled for halibut? |
| 20:13.49 | NetRipper | CONFIG_MACH_HALIBUT=y |
| 20:13.54 | NetRipper | from .config |
| 20:14.03 | NetRipper | i assume you mean kernel |
| 20:14.12 | goxboxlive | hi BabelO |
| 20:14.20 | goxboxlive | well, i have no idea what to try next |
| 20:14.30 | BabelO | hi goxboxlive |
| 20:14.42 | goxboxlive | Kubuntu boots, and i think i can manage to install it, but X is atotaly mess |
| 20:14.45 | BabelO | goxboxlive: but kernel is working .. |
| 20:14.55 | goxboxlive | something with EEX or EAX |
| 20:15.04 | BabelO | goxboxlive: what is your video card ? |
| 20:15.11 | goxboxlive | BabelO: yes, your kernel is booting. |
| 20:15.13 | goxboxlive | hold on |
| 20:15.26 | Kevin2 | NetRipper: is start_kernel after the mmu is reenabled? |
| 20:15.51 | NetRipper | Kevin2, not sure, yet to find out |
| 20:15.58 | goxboxlive | Club3D GeForce 8400 GS 256MB PCIe |
| 20:16.37 | BabelO | goxboxlive: ok |
| 20:16.45 | Kevin2 | Okay - you may not be able to directly write to the flashlight gpio once linux turns on the mmu. |
| 20:16.46 | goxboxlive | And when kde is runing i cant access the shell |
| 20:16.59 | BabelO | that s not a problem, it works normally |
| 20:17.08 | Kevin2 | Also, you should be aware that setting the peripheral port range register might actually cause linux to crash. |
| 20:17.08 | goxboxlive | It colorize my screen |
| 20:17.09 | NetRipper | Kevin2, yes, i'd need to set that peripheral control register again, right? |
| 20:17.31 | kiozen | cr2_: got my mail? |
| 20:17.36 | cr2_ | kiozen: yes |
| 20:17.43 | cr2_ | kiozen: i'll have a look |
| 20:17.45 | NetRipper | Kevin2, do you have asm code for that CP() function in haret? |
| 20:17.49 | goxboxlive | BabelO: yes, but if could access the shell i would maybe manage to change some X parameters . |
| 20:18.12 | kiozen | ok, write to the log if you need more |
| 20:18.27 | Kevin2 | NetRipper: If you didn't set the mtype to a correct value before - I'd try going back to a standard haret/kernel build and retrying just to make sure that wasn't your original problem. |
| 20:18.42 | Kevin2 | NetRipper: the CP() is just a wrapper around mrc and mcr insns. |
| 20:18.54 | kiozen | have to prepare a mountain hike with my son for tomorrow.. |
| 20:20.11 | goxboxlive | BabelO: in the config you gave me, did you add the lvm that i talked about? |
| 20:20.35 | BabelO | goxboxlive: don t know about how to select lvm |
| 20:21.59 | goxboxlive | BabelO: me neitheri couldnt find it. Now i am trying to install both kernel and modules to the usbstick, maybe i can add it somehow. |
| 20:27.24 | NetRipper | Kevin2, cr2_, it hangs in decompression routine, uncompressed image works (but wrong mtype, forgot to set it right) |
| 20:27.36 | NetRipper | let's see what happens when i fix that |
| 20:28.10 | NetRipper | flashlight worked as well, so it gets into the head.S |
| 20:28.45 | goxboxlive | what kind of filesystem is a initrd? |
| 20:29.06 | cr2_ | goxboxlive: ext2 ? |
| 20:29.11 | goxboxlive | hmm |
| 20:29.22 | cr2_ | NetRipper: you need to find out where the dots go |
| 20:29.27 | cr2_ | goxboxlive: ext2.gz |
| 20:29.31 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 20:29.39 | NetRipper | cr2_, yea, later, first with uncompressed image |
| 20:29.43 | cr2_ | ok |
| 20:30.09 | cr2_ | NetRipper: there should be some lowlevel debug putc() |
| 20:30.23 | NetRipper | or, well, other parts probably output to the same thing, so it might hang then anyway |
| 20:30.30 | cr2_ | for the dots |
| 20:30.36 | NetRipper | but let's first see if it passes the machine checks |
| 20:30.38 | cr2_ | no |
| 20:30.45 | cr2_ | it#s different. |
| 20:31.05 | NetRipper | is the decompressor code that crappy then? ;) |
| 20:31.05 | cr2_ | the printk() goes into console (whatever that is. |
| 20:31.09 | NetRipper | aha |
| 20:31.21 | cr2_ | serial/ir,fb,etc. |
| 20:31.40 | cr2_ | it may be the decompress putc() that hangs. |
| 20:32.01 | BabelO | goxboxlive: look at your email |
| 20:32.26 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 20:33.07 | cr2_ | NetRipper: this part of linux-arm is not documented at all. you need to grep through the source to know ;) |
| 20:33.33 | cr2_ | NetRipper: and it's mach-foobar dependent. |
| 20:35.27 | NetRipper | ok with the halibut mtype it passes the processor and machine checks |
| 20:35.37 | diogene31_ | cr2_: To debug the initial kernel bootstrap, sometimes it's worth activating (or deactivating) CONFIG_DEBUG_LL, which has an impact on initial console output. And if you activate the LED to see progress, don't forget that once MMU is turned on, addressing changes, and you need to insert your own entry to activate the led ... |
| 20:35.45 | cr2_ | NetRipper: ok. it must boot then :) |
| 20:35.46 | NetRipper | can't believe i might have lost so much time using the wrong mtype |
| 20:35.52 | cr2_ | hehe. |
| 20:36.13 | NetRipper | anyway it didnt continue booting |
| 20:36.16 | cr2_ | NetRipper: now you can clone the halibut code, and the the rapahel id ;) |
| 20:36.32 | NetRipper | you're kidding, right |
| 20:36.32 | NetRipper | :P |
| 20:36.46 | cr2_ | ok. so the fb does nt show anything |
| 20:36.48 | NetRipper | they even refer to halibut in android kernel |
| 20:36.57 | cr2_ | NetRipper: does the usb status change ? |
| 20:37.17 | cr2_ | NetRipper: lol |
| 20:37.45 | cr2_ | NetRipper: the halibut LCD is certainly different from hitachi LCD on raph100 |
| 20:37.50 | NetRipper | well i heard the bleeps from windows that something happens to usb, but that happens often when the device hangs, even when i make it hang myself |
| 20:37.53 | cr2_ | but the usb may work. |
| 20:38.04 | cr2_ | so you may telnet. |
| 20:38.20 | cr2_ | plug it after linux boot |
| 20:38.28 | NetRipper | i'll need a proper initrd before i can telnet in |
| 20:38.50 | NetRipper | there was an initrd for hermes to do that, but it was built into the haret.exe |
| 20:38.59 | NetRipper | dont know how to extract that |
| 20:39.02 | cr2_ | get it from Kevin2 |
| 20:39.25 | cr2_ | you can build such selfbootable image too. |
| 20:39.35 | cr2_ | rootfs.cgz |
| 20:39.42 | NetRipper | was it Kevin2 that made that hermes haret + kernel + imagerd image that was referred to on xda wiki? |
| 20:39.48 | cr2_ | yes |
| 20:39.51 | NetRipper | ah |
| 20:40.25 | NetRipper | already have a rootfs.cgz |
| 20:40.34 | NetRipper | from the same source as the hermes .exe |
| 20:40.40 | NetRipper | but not the exact one from the exe |
| 20:40.42 | NetRipper | so not sure if it works :P |
| 20:41.46 | cr2_ | it works on athena, treo750, ... |
| 20:41.50 | cr2_ | everywhere. |
| 20:41.54 | NetRipper | ok |
| 20:42.12 | cr2_ | even on hacked universal with 128MB |
| 20:43.13 | goxboxlive | BabelO: TThe kernel misses fat, ext2 and ext3 support, they are compiled as modules and not in to the kernel |
| 20:43.44 | goxboxlive | If i just manage to add my kernel modules to the uniboot initrd then i think it will work. |
| 20:43.52 | goxboxlive | But i have problem mounting it |
| 20:44.12 | Kevin2 | cr2_ / NetRipper: My files for hermes are at: http://www.handhelds.org/~koconnor/HTCHermes/ |
| 20:46.14 | BabelO | goxboxlive: new kernel in your mailbox |
| 20:47.37 | szsoftware | cr2_: thanks for your hint. Every fb-driver (including fbcon) has to evaluate kernel params itself in *fb*_setup() function |
| 20:47.59 | szsoftware | dcordes: around |
| 20:48.00 | szsoftware | ? |
| 20:48.11 | goxboxlive | BabelO: thx, i'll test once more :-) |
| 20:48.23 | NetRipper | cr2_, there is "an usb device" but non-responsive, nor does usbnet recognize anything on linux |
| 20:49.12 | cr2_ | lsusb ? |
| 20:49.13 | NetRipper | Kevin2, that rootfs.cgz on that link is ready to rock for usb connection? (like the herm-linux exe's? |
| 20:49.42 | NetRipper | [ 112.254476] usb 5-3: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 5 |
| 20:49.48 | cr2_ | NetRipper: yes, but you need the gadget driver |
| 20:50.07 | NetRipper | yes, modprobe usbnet |
| 20:50.10 | cr2_ | do you have cdc driver in .config ? |
| 20:50.19 | NetRipper | on phone? |
| 20:50.24 | cr2_ | yes |
| 20:50.30 | cr2_ | "halibut" |
| 20:50.34 | NetRipper | yes |
| 20:50.36 | NetRipper | i'll check |
| 20:50.37 | cr2_ | ok |
| 20:51.04 | Kevin2 | NetRipper: That image is a year and a half old - I have no idea what it does. :-) It should be what's in the "boot bundles" that were previously distributed. |
| 20:51.14 | cr2_ | hmm. GPIO and ALT can be used. i guess others too ;) |
| 20:51.17 | NetRipper | ok |
| 20:51.31 | NetRipper | Kevin2, any chance you remember the cmdline for those .exe's? :P |
| 20:51.36 | cr2_ | Kevin2: it must have telnetd from busybox |
| 20:51.55 | Kevin2 | NetRipper: cmdline? |
| 20:51.57 | cr2_ | NetRipper: selfbootbale ? |
| 20:52.10 | NetRipper | Kevin2 set cmdline "..." |
| 20:52.12 | cr2_ | NetRipper: it's in the 'make linload' docs |
| 20:52.41 | NetRipper | cr2_, i mean, i've ran across initrd's with deviating init locations |
| 20:52.51 | cr2_ | NetRipper: you don't need it |
| 20:53.50 | Kevin2 | NetRipper: I didn't set a cmdline. If you "less herm-linux-20070930.exe" you can see the haret commands at the very end of the file. |
| 20:54.18 | NetRipper | ok |
| 20:55.43 | NetRipper | cr2_ do i want usb ethernet or usb gadget? (or both?) |
| 20:56.14 | goxboxlive | BabelO: nope. It just asks for the modules ext2/3 vfat and so. |
| 20:56.15 | NetRipper | there's msm7k diagnostics support via usb as well |
| 20:56.17 | NetRipper | in the kernel |
| 20:57.02 | cr2_ | NetRipper: both |
| 20:57.14 | cr2_ | NetRipper: msmk diag is uart1. which we do not have |
| 20:58.09 | BabelO | goxboxlive: ..... it i s build in, i think you can bypass this setup |
| 20:58.41 | goxboxlive | BabelO: but that doesnt mather, because the partition application doesnt find my HD |
| 20:59.03 | goxboxlive | it finds them, but have no idea about the filesystem |
| 20:59.40 | goxboxlive | so i guess i need to install the 2.6.27 headers in to the initrd, then it will find the rigt modules |
| 20:59.55 | goxboxlive | but i have no idea what fiilessystem uniboot uses |
| 21:03.35 | BabelO | goxboxlive: your hdd is not seen ? that's not a partition problem then |
| 21:05.14 | goxboxlive | BabelO: yes they is located, all of them, but i cant mount /boot to sdc1 and / to sdc3 . Because it's not an option. And in the debug shwll i see it complaines about missing 2.6.27 modules like ext2/3 vfat and so |
| 21:06.45 | BabelO | because it is defaukt load... not a problem i think i can send you module too |
| 21:08.08 | BabelO | goxboxlive: you reinstall your old, or you install a new ? |
| 21:08.44 | goxboxlive | BabelO: i install a new one on the old harddisk. like i have allways done |
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| 21:09.03 | goxboxlive | BabelO: i am creating the modules myself now, from your .config |
| 21:09.13 | BabelO | ok |
| 21:09.19 | goxboxlive | but i cant see to solve howto mount the damn initrd |
| 21:09.36 | goxboxlive | BabelO: try to mount this one: http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/unstable/main/installer-i386/current/images/hd-media/initrd.gz |
| 21:09.37 | BabelO | goxboxlive: the unetbootin initrd ? |
| 21:10.00 | NetRipper | brb, router is acting up |
| 21:10.01 | goxboxlive | BabelO: yes or this one, the debian (it's the same i think) |
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| 21:11.28 | BabelO | goxboxlive: it is a cpio archive |
| 21:13.44 | goxboxlive | BabelO: ok,how do i mount it? |
| 21:14.08 | BabelO | goxboxlive: gpio -d initrd.gz && cpio -i < initrd |
| 21:14.17 | BabelO | do that in a separate directory |
| 21:14.35 | BabelO | then ask dcordes for cmd line to rebuild the initrd file then gzip the file again |
| 21:14.49 | goxboxlive | ok thx |
| 21:14.52 | NetRipper | ~ping |
| 21:14.52 | apt | ~pong |
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| 21:16.34 | NetRipper | hope i didnt miss anything :p |
| 21:16.57 | NetRipper | i thought logs of this channel were real-time |
| 21:17.14 | Kevin2 | cr2_ / NetRipper: CVS head has a new tool (tools/extract-bootbundle.py). It will take a boot bundle and pull out the haret, zimage, initrd, and script file that went into the boot bundle. |
| 21:17.28 | NetRipper | Kevin2, sweet, thanks |
| 21:18.58 | cr2_ | i've updated the ARM9 gpios http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=RaphaelMemoryMap |
| 21:19.19 | cr2_ | but i think there is one bug for bank1, which i can't check... |
| 21:20.08 | cr2_ | Kevin2: i think we should revive the 'dump gpio' per cpuarch function. |
| 21:23.07 | cr2_ | i've added the question mark for GPIO_CONF2 regs, where i'm not 100% sure about the base value. |
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| 21:26.41 | Kevin2 | cr2_: I accept patches. :-) |
| 21:27.36 | Kevin2 | Is "watch gpios" too cryptic? |
| 21:30.13 | cr2_ | Kevin2: it's more about dumping the ALT data |
| 21:30.59 | cr2_ | it's too cryptic to write a script for doing it. |
| 21:31.08 | Kevin2 | Most archs put the ALT registers in the GPIOS variable. So, the info can be there, but it's a bit cryptic. |
| 21:31.46 | Kevin2 | cr2_: Write a script for doing what? |
| 21:34.11 | cr2_ | Kevin2: to dump and parse the gpio configuration registers, not the gpio status. |
| 21:35.54 | Kevin2 | cr2_: Hrmm. pxa does it. It adds the six "GPIO alt" registers to GPIOS in arch-pxa.cpp and then documents them in regs_pxa.py . |
| 21:36.28 | Kevin2 | After all, the watch code needs to be able to report gpio config changes as well as level changes. |
| 21:38.42 | cr2_ | Kevin2: ok, but the process is a bit more involved on msm. |
| 21:38.51 | cr2_ | i'll think about it. |
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| 21:39.15 | goxboxlive | BabelO: i manage to install debian base system :-). Now i need the network driver. I used a usbstick with a iso file, created from the hd-madia repo at debian |
| 21:39.33 | Kevin2 | cr2_: What quirks does msm have? |
| 21:39.44 | cr2_ | hehe. G1: "There is no file manager like in Windows mobile, no way to manually close apps that I could find." |
| 21:40.35 | cr2_ | Kevin2: you need to write the number to GPIO_Num register, and then write the magic ALT number to another register. |
| 21:40.54 | cr2_ | Kevin2: i have gathered a list of magic numbers used by wince. |
| 21:41.32 | Kevin2 | Okay - that's weird. Can the info even be queried? |
| 21:43.06 | cr2_ | Kevin2: i think one can read the "ALT" register, but i don't know how to interpret it. |
| 21:45.38 | BabelO | goxboxlive: ok |
| 21:53.29 | BabelO | good night |
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| 21:56.18 | Arilou | cr2_ can you help me ? I got this error : mount: Mounting none on /proc/bus/usb failed: No such file or directory |
| 21:57.16 | Arilou | /init: /init: 47: cannot create /sys/class/graphics/fb0/con_rotate: Permission denied |
| 22:01.01 | cr2_ | Arilou: these are irrelevant. |
| 22:01.36 | Arilou | cr2_ what you want to tell ? |
| 22:02.01 | Arilou | that this file cant be used on my treo ? |
| 22:03.45 | cr2_ | the ramdisk is not fine-tuned for your phone |
| 22:03.58 | cr2_ | but you may telnet over usb |
| 22:06.40 | NetRipper | what's the point of a "mov r3, r3" instruction, it doesn't really do anything, does it? |
| 22:07.37 | cr2_ | strange |
| 22:13.25 | dcordes_ | cr2_: now back again |
| 22:13.26 | dcordes_ | szsoftware: |
| 22:14.06 | Arilou | cr2_ do i need to change some settings in WM ? |
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| 22:17.02 | NetRipper | cr2_, once the linux kernel re-enables the mmu, are the virtual gpio addresses the same as in wince? |
| 22:17.54 | NetRipper | cr2_, or could they be different due to some mmu configuration (no idea what 1st and 2nd level descriptor page tables are for) |
| 22:19.29 | NetRipper | cr2_, can't get flashlight to work once mmu is being turned back on |
| 22:21.55 | cr2_ | Arilou: no |
| 22:22.03 | cr2_ | NetRipper: they will be different |
| 22:22.12 | NetRipper | cr2_, ah, figures |
| 22:22.18 | cr2_ | NetRipper: but halibut does some static remapping |
| 22:22.24 | cr2_ | like wince |
| 22:22.29 | NetRipper | cr2_, i should use the ones defined in gpio_hw.h? |
| 22:22.33 | cr2_ | i'll check the source |
| 22:22.35 | cr2_ | yes |
| 22:22.41 | NetRipper | k |
| 22:24.02 | cr2_ | vregs are strange in the msm kernel |
| 22:24.57 | cr2_ | asm/arch/msm_iomap.h |
| 22:25.15 | NetRipper | ah, i was just grepping for it |
| 22:25.48 | cr2_ | #define MSM_GPIO1_BASE 0xE0007000 |
| 22:25.57 | Arilou | cr2_ so, there's no chance to run linux on my ppc ? |
| 22:26.00 | cr2_ | #define MSM_GPIO2_BASE 0xE0008000 |
| 22:26.24 | cr2_ | Arilou: if you are not a hacker, then not. |
| 22:27.48 | cr2_ | NetRipper: you should add the offset like it is done in gpio_hw.h |
| 22:28.02 | NetRipper | yes |
| 22:28.05 | NetRipper | doing that |
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| 22:33.06 | szsoftware | dcordes: hey, your'e still here? |
| 22:33.27 | dcordes | szsoftware: yes |
| 22:33.52 | szsoftware | dcordes: just try to hack fb-rotation into the kernel |
| 22:36.10 | szsoftware | dcordes: but I'm still at kernel parameter handling, haha |
| 22:38.54 | NetRipper | arf im done for today |
| 22:38.54 | NetRipper | :P |
| 22:38.56 | dcordes | szsoftware: ok anything I can help with? |
| 22:39.05 | dcordes | cr2_: you pinged me earlier |
| 22:39.15 | szsoftware | dcordes: what are your kernel hacking skills :-) Ã |
| 22:39.17 | szsoftware | ? |
| 22:39.44 | dcordes | so so :) |
| 22:41.11 | szsoftware | dcordes: ok, will have to wait 1 min. Will see if my kernel param (video=msmfb:rotate_[90|180|270]) is in dmesg/printk... |
| 22:41.59 | NetRipper | szsoftware, you realise you have to choose either 90, 180 or 270 right? :) |
| 22:42.34 | szsoftware | NetRipper: you're kidding me? :-) |
| 22:42.41 | NetRipper | just checking.. |
| 22:43.27 | szsoftware | dcordes: ok that kernel build failed. Stop at "mmcblk0" p1 p2 :-( |
| 22:43.33 | NetRipper | never know what late hours do to your brain |
| 22:43.33 | NetRipper | :) |
| 22:44.24 | szsoftware | NetRipper: lol |
| 22:48.05 | szsoftware | dcordes: hah! I know! Isn't ext2-support not in htcpolaris_defconfig? I hope I remember... |
| 22:53.59 | dcordes | szsoftware: don't know |
| 22:54.00 | dcordes | bbiab |
| 22:58.56 | cr2_ | NetRipper: any progress ? |
| 22:59.38 | NetRipper | cr2_, couldn't get flashlight to work with the linux virt addresses |
| 22:59.43 | NetRipper | after mmu enable |
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| 23:01.45 | cr2_ | hm. virt gpio not configured ? |
| 23:02.11 | cr2_ | but wince should have configured it. |
| 23:02.33 | NetRipper | im testing it right after the instruction where the mmu is re-enabled |
| 23:02.48 | NetRipper | i've tried wince virt addresses and linux virt addresses |
| 23:02.57 | NetRipper | no luck on both |
| 23:03.14 | NetRipper | no luck on phys either (im a stubborn man, trying it anyway) |
| 23:03.15 | cr2_ | ok, i see a problem here. |
| 23:03.39 | cr2_ | it's exactly what i'm studying now. |
| 23:03.57 | NetRipper | which is? |
| 23:04.00 | cr2_ | you need to "setup" the gpio first, before you can use it. |
| 23:04.21 | cr2_ | but the setup area is not mapped in the android-msm code |
| 23:04.48 | NetRipper | meaning it would be done in spl? |
| 23:05.10 | cr2_ | they use some awkward rpc for gpio config |
| 23:05.27 | cr2_ | the registers are all documented. |
| 23:05.50 | cr2_ | they just need some better understanding. and some more code. |
| 23:06.21 | cr2_ | what "owner" actually means. |
| 23:07.20 | NetRipper | there's a msm_gpio_configure() in gpio.c |
| 23:09.12 | NetRipper | and msm_gpio_init |
| 23:09.21 | NetRipper | msm_init_gpio i mean |
| 23:10.41 | NetRipper | they add irq handlers and "wake"'s there |
| 23:10.52 | NetRipper | anyway |
| 23:11.03 | cr2_ | where is the code which sets i/o/alt ? |
| 23:11.07 | NetRipper | im a zombie, need sleep |
| 23:11.21 | NetRipper | don't know anything abou talt |
| 23:11.53 | cr2_ | i/o is ok, but alt... |
| 23:12.33 | cr2_ | still it's strange. |
| 23:13.43 | NetRipper | i'll continue experimenting tomorrow |
| 23:13.45 | NetRipper | good night |
| 23:13.50 | cr2_ | good night |
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| 23:24.12 | ALoGeNo | hi |
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| 23:25.26 | szsoftware | morning ALoGeNo |
| 23:32.17 | szsoftware | ok, will go to sleep too. |
| 23:32.20 | szsoftware | night |