| 00:00.00 | cr2_ | imagemagick ? |
| 00:00.09 | cr2_ | try 'convert' |
| 00:00.09 | NetRipper | wow i do have gimp on my server |
| 00:00.30 | NetRipper | emphasis on server |
| 00:00.38 | cr2_ | i'm not sure if gimp can rle |
| 00:00.43 | dcordes_ | it's important as you see :) |
| 00:01.15 | NetRipper | gimp can't open it |
| 00:01.26 | cr2_ | hmm. where is my dump |
| 00:02.13 | cr2_ | NetRipper: why not the standard logo ? |
| 00:02.28 | NetRipper | cr2_, msm_fb code doesn't look for it |
| 00:02.56 | dcordes_ | you need Utah Raster Toolkit |
| 00:03.07 | NetRipper | yea screw that, i have a .rle file, and i'll get it working tomorrow |
| 00:03.09 | NetRipper | :p |
| 00:03.25 | NetRipper | i'll see what the contents are then |
| 00:03.27 | cr2_ | ok |
| 00:03.33 | NetRipper | and we'll be amazed |
| 00:03.43 | dcordes_ | http://www.rz.uni-kiel.de/graphik/utah_raster/ see table from programs |
| 00:03.49 | NetRipper | ok |
| 00:04.24 | NetRipper | netripper@eagle:/$ convert /home/storage/logo.rle /home/storage/logo.bmp |
| 00:04.24 | NetRipper | convert: Improper image header `/home/storage/logo.rle'. |
| 00:04.41 | cr2_ | file logo.rle ? |
| 00:04.54 | NetRipper | data |
| 00:05.09 | NetRipper | i think it's just BMP without BMP header |
| 00:05.21 | NetRipper | RGB565 is pretty basic |
| 00:05.28 | NetRipper | used in codecs on windows as well |
| 00:05.47 | cr2_ | logo.rle: data |
| 00:06.21 | NetRipper | cpio is not my favorite thing to work with |
| 00:06.23 | cr2_ | bmp without the header can't set the size |
| 00:06.30 | cr2_ | cpio -i |
| 00:06.59 | NetRipper | yea but it tries to extact to my root filesystem instead of the subdirectory i want it in |
| 00:07.05 | cr2_ | the second byte is always zero |
| 00:07.11 | NetRipper | oh |
| 00:07.14 | cr2_ | use stdout |
| 00:07.21 | NetRipper | --no-absolute-filenames option |
| 00:07.26 | NetRipper | anyway, tomorrow |
| 00:07.33 | NetRipper | i'll do something in my breaktime |
| 00:07.33 | NetRipper | :) |
| 00:07.46 | cr2_ | ok :) |
| 00:07.50 | NetRipper | good night |
| 00:08.00 | cr2_ | why don't they use standrd formats... |
| 00:08.02 | cr2_ | good night |
| 00:08.12 | dcordes_ | gunzip initrd-android.cpio.gz && cpio -i < initrd.android.cpio |
| 00:08.25 | dcordes_ | find ./ | cpio -H newc -o | gzip > ../initrd.cpio.gz |
| 00:08.33 | cr2_ | looks like a raw dump |
| 00:09.01 | cr2_ | but 24bit |
| 00:09.22 | NetRipper | dcordes_, thx |
| 00:09.28 | cr2_ | hm. the loader is in the kenrel |
| 00:09.48 | cr2_ | so it should be doable |
| 00:10.15 | NetRipper | cr2_, you were right, the default logo works |
| 00:10.34 | NetRipper | i stand corrected |
| 00:10.58 | cr2_ | it's just a memcpy to fb |
| 00:11.10 | cr2_ | linebyline i guess |
| 00:11.22 | cr2_ | NetRipper: post the screenshot :) |
| 00:11.26 | NetRipper | yes |
| 00:11.35 | cr2_ | then i can sleep quetly today :) |
| 00:11.44 | dcordes_ | cr2_, can you give me a hint how to try google ti now that kaiser works on trout? |
| 00:11.56 | dcordes_ | trout branch |
| 00:12.56 | cr2_ | dcordes_: i have no idea, we need to bash swetland |
| 00:14.21 | dcordes_ | ~ping swetland |
| 00:14.22 | apt | pong swetland |
| 00:16.00 | dcordes_ | cr2_, did you look at it? |
| 00:16.58 | cr2_ | no, have a lot of other burning problems. |
| 00:17.03 | NetRipper | http://www.netripper.nl/raphael/pics/20081023_framebuffer3.jpg |
| 00:17.19 | cr2_ | weeeeeee |
| 00:17.40 | cr2_ | fix the sd detect gpio |
| 00:17.56 | cr2_ | it may detect the card/partiton table |
| 00:17.56 | szsoftware_ | dcordes: did you try to strip down the ti from android metadata, and hack the makefile togetherà |
| 00:18.06 | szsoftware_ | dcordes: ? |
| 00:18.14 | dcordes | szsoftware_, no. does that work for you? |
| 00:19.00 | szsoftware_ | dcordes: I dunno, how to compile only ti within buildsystem, so I'm now building whole system, since hours |
| 00:19.19 | cr2_ | NetRipper: htc logo is missing at the bottom |
| 00:19.23 | szsoftware_ | dcordes: if it worked, you already had it per mail |
| 00:19.37 | dcordes | ok |
| 00:19.47 | NetRipper | cr2_, it's there, vaguely |
| 00:19.59 | NetRipper | you want the high res to verify? |
| 00:19.59 | NetRipper | ;) |
| 00:20.19 | dcordes | szsoftware_, I fear you will just get a rootfs with the ti wifi .ko |
| 00:20.42 | cr2_ | NetRipper: no. just so it's visible that it's raph100 |
| 00:20.43 | dcordes | and have nfc what happened |
| 00:20.44 | szsoftware_ | dcordes: maybe swetland has a normal source package of ti lying around ^^ |
| 00:21.03 | szsoftware_ | dcordes: couldt it work ootb? |
| 00:21.11 | NetRipper | i'll enhance the area a bit |
| 00:21.39 | dcordes | szsoftware_, maybe a question for cr2_ . bu I could believe with wifi on in wine, it could work |
| 00:21.48 | dcordes | because of the tuples haha ^^ |
| 00:21.57 | szsoftware_ | dcordes: it would be a milestone |
| 00:24.11 | NetRipper | cr2_, ok made a new pic |
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| 00:25.05 | szsoftware_ | dcordes: since hours my system is a lame duck ^^ |
| 00:25.29 | cr2_ | NetRipper: link ? |
| 00:25.55 | cr2_ | flashblocker is a god-send thing on ffox |
| 00:26.01 | dcordes | szsoftware_, is it any verbose so you can check ti build log? |
| 00:26.19 | NetRipper | cr2_, same |
| 00:26.21 | NetRipper | overwritten |
| 00:26.36 | cr2_ | k |
| 00:27.04 | cr2_ | post it. |
| 00:27.07 | dcordes | gets envious |
| 00:27.10 | cr2_ | look like a diamond :) |
| 00:27.20 | NetRipper | cr2_, arrrr |
| 00:27.41 | NetRipper | cr2_, tough luck :P |
| 00:27.59 | dcordes | NetRipper, compile in fbcon_rotation and boot with fbcon=rotate:3 flip out keyboard and redo photo that's the 1337 way |
| 00:28.10 | cr2_ | dcordes: hehe. think about the touchscreen. which is not a tsc2003 |
| 00:28.14 | NetRipper | dcordes, i'll do that for next time :p |
| 00:28.21 | cr2_ | LOL |
| 00:28.33 | NetRipper | fbcon isn't even compiled in yet |
| 00:28.33 | NetRipper | ;) |
| 00:28.44 | dcordes | oh right |
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| 00:28.53 | dcordes | druidu, driver? |
| 00:29.18 | NetRipper | builtin driver may work |
| 00:29.23 | NetRipper | just havent compiled it yet |
| 00:29.38 | dcordes | btw, does g1 have the tv out? |
| 00:29.43 | NetRipper | nope |
| 00:29.51 | szsoftware_ | NetRipper: shall we dig a grave for you? |
| 00:29.58 | dcordes | did you guys research the raph one? |
| 00:30.22 | NetRipper | szsoftware_, eh? |
| 00:30.29 | dcordes | your boss :) |
| 00:30.32 | NetRipper | oh yes |
| 00:30.34 | NetRipper | you should |
| 00:30.36 | NetRipper | ;) |
| 00:31.54 | cr2_ | szsoftware_: steve ballmer is already preparing the chairs. |
| 00:32.26 | NetRipper | omg |
| 00:32.26 | szsoftware_ | dcordes: you got it, haha |
| 00:32.30 | NetRipper | 500 - internal server error |
| 00:32.58 | dcordes | szsoftware_, first I thought you're gonna kill him in order to take over posession of his tux'D raph |
| 00:33.00 | cr2_ | dcordes: they phear to publish the cam driver. and you talk about tvout |
| 00:33.09 | szsoftware_ | dcordes: lol |
| 00:33.42 | dcordes | cr |
| 00:33.49 | dcordes | you think tvout is kept more secret? |
| 00:33.59 | cr2_ | sure |
| 00:34.12 | dcordes | why? |
| 00:34.18 | cr2_ | even the stupid ati binary drivers keep it secret. |
| 00:34.20 | NetRipper | they afraid the communityw ill make the driver much better? |
| 00:34.20 | NetRipper | :) |
| 00:34.30 | szsoftware_ | dcordes: regarding your ti related question, atm I can't almost do nothing while compiling that android stuff ^^ |
| 00:34.43 | dcordes | cr2_, the free ati drivers don't do tvout? |
| 00:34.49 | szsoftware_ | dcordes: will look over what happend when it's done |
| 00:35.12 | cr2_ | dcordes: don't know the current status, but it was so. |
| 00:36.41 | dcordes | lol did somebody put some raphael/android buzzwords on xda? |
| 00:36.49 | cr2_ | dcordes: i guess that tvout is a big binary blob pita. like the audio out |
| 00:36.53 | dcordes | 500 - Internal Server Error |
| 00:37.15 | cr2_ | yes it's gone for today |
| 00:38.45 | cr2_ | htc should have added the magnetometer chip to raph, and sold it as android phone. |
| 00:39.34 | NetRipper | its back |
| 00:39.36 | AstainHellbring | what you mean by magnetomeeter? |
| 00:39.37 | cr2_ | it would have saved them a lot of money, and endlessly pissed off the mickeysoft :) |
| 00:39.41 | NetRipper | and i put a post |
| 00:39.46 | NetRipper | and im to bed for real now |
| 00:39.47 | NetRipper | :) |
| 00:39.49 | dcordes | hah, rotating the view in google maps with compass is the central key feature? |
| 00:40.06 | NetRipper | dcordes, it was one of the advertisement features :s |
| 00:40.15 | NetRipper | 'unique selling point' |
| 00:40.24 | dcordes | yes I've seen the early videos |
| 00:40.32 | cr2_ | AstainHellbring: the AK chip on g1 is not only a 3D accelerometer (like diam/raph) but also a 3D magnetometer. |
| 00:41.21 | AstainHellbring | wierd |
| 00:41.28 | cr2_ | a Hall sensor i guess |
| 00:42.05 | szsoftware_ | dump question: could we do i2c over usb? possibly? |
| 00:42.06 | cr2_ | so you can track the 3D magnetic field around oyu. |
| 00:42.16 | cr2_ | ? |
| 00:43.39 | dcordes | cr2_, do you have the g1 magnetron url again ? |
| 00:43.42 | cr2_ | szsoftware_: what's the purpose of i2c over usb ? |
| 00:43.53 | szsoftware_ | cr2_: could one solder this accel/magneto foobar chip stuff into a (ext)usb dongle, and can this used for devices without that capability? |
| 00:44.18 | dcordes | cr2_, btw is something in between required or do they interface directly with i2c pins? |
| 00:44.25 | cr2_ | szsoftware_: it's easier to connect it do extusb h2w pins |
| 00:45.09 | cr2_ | it's already using some pseudo-i2c spi-like protocol to identify the devices |
| 00:45.15 | szsoftware_ | cr2_: thanks answering that question. I wonder, there aren't such dongles on the market |
| 00:45.53 | cr2_ | dcordes: grep the logs for ak-europe |
| 00:45.59 | dcordes | k |
| 00:46.19 | ali1234 | szsoftware_: robotfuzz.com |
| 00:46.26 | cr2_ | dcordes: http://www.akemd-eu.com/smart_sensor_system/e_compass/index.html |
| 00:46.41 | szsoftware_ | cr2_: btw, how do you get/fetch grepable logs? |
| 00:47.11 | cr2_ | szsoftware_: where can you get the extusb connector ? |
| 00:47.22 | cr2_ | szsoftware_: i run konversation 24h/day |
| 00:47.23 | dcordes | ali1234, you mean the usb microcontroller there? |
| 00:47.47 | ali1234 | dcordes: yes, it was designed for connecting i2c devices to usb |
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| 00:48.29 | cr2_ | szsoftware: you only need a source for solderable extusb connectors. |
| 00:48.42 | dcordes | ali1234, I would like to control for 3 servos and such an AK8973 - Silicon monolithic 3-axis magnetometer thing to my beagle board |
| 00:48.52 | cr2_ | then you can hook any i2c or spi stuff. |
| 00:49.42 | ali1234 | dcordes: OSIF is designed specifically for openservo but works with other i2c stuff too. of course if beagleboard has native i2c you are probably better off using that |
| 00:50.04 | szsoftware | cr2_: do we need some of the extra lines in the extusb, or are mini-usb enough? |
| 00:50.11 | ali1234 | dcordes: but ask ginge about it :) |
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| 00:50.43 | cr2_ | szsoftware: the extra lines are already there. i guess 3 and 5, but we need to verify it. |
| 00:51.18 | cr2_ | ginge: do you have some hardcore electronic gear ? |
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| 00:51.31 | dcordes | ali1234, I have usb 2.0 and a native i2c port to realize it |
| 00:51.43 | cr2_ | dcordes: what are the h2w gpios on kais ? have i put them into wiki ? |
| 00:52.08 | ali1234 | dcordes: sounds like openservo would be perfect for you then - openservo.org |
| 00:52.22 | dcordes | cr2_, doesn't look like it |
| 00:52.45 | dcordes | cr2_, sorry they are on the cpld |
| 00:53.14 | dcordes | ali1234, which devices would you suggest? |
| 00:53.51 | dcordes | cr2_, ginge is extremely electronic |
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| 00:55.32 | ali1234 | dcordes: i don't really know anything about servos and electronics... |
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| 00:56.34 | cr2_ | dcordes: ok, but it certainly needs better docs |
| 00:57.29 | cr2_ | dcordes: can one buy this connector ? -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2610305&postcount=19 |
| 00:57.45 | cr2_ | swetland was talking about a custom y-cable |
| 00:58.11 | cr2_ | Multifunction Audio Cable YC A200 |
| 00:58.54 | cr2_ | dcordes: but it's a kaiser cable ? |
| 00:59.12 | dcordes | cr2_, the little box adapter looks familiar from ebay |
| 00:59.59 | dcordes | http://www.amazon.de/Multifunktion-original-Vodafone-Diamond-baugleiche/dp/B0012MKW2G |
| 01:01.09 | szsoftware | ok guys, I'll get some sleep now |
| 01:01.19 | szsoftware | Night! |
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| 01:06.09 | dcordes | ali1234, do you know if I can control motor regulators that use servo signal with open servo hardware so I can also interface them to i2c? |
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| 01:07.10 | ali1234 | dcordes: the basic openservo has it's own DC motor/servo driver which it controls using PWM |
| 01:07.17 | ali1234 | dcordes: beyond that i don't know |
| 01:08.04 | dcordes | ali1234, yea but I mean the big ones. not servo motors. might as well just get a ppz board |
| 01:08.24 | ali1234 | dcordes: don't know. you'd have to ask ginge |
| 01:09.51 | dcordes | ali1234, ok |
| 01:09.56 | dcordes | good night |
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| 02:02.47 | BruteForce | seems penguinz has already got an android kernel workin on the excalibur |
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| 02:24.35 | fumanchu182 | evening all, my first time in this room |
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| 02:41.50 | fumanchu182 | seen druidu |
| 03:13.32 | fumanchu182 | druidu: if you ever get a chance http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2812009&posted=1#post2812009 |
| 03:27.18 | tmzt | cr2_: he was talking about breaking out usb and usb-to-serial for uart |
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| 03:58.45 | tmzt | cr2_: how do I add gpios to mmutrace and still ibit? |
| 03:59.16 | tmzt | should have scrolled down |
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| 04:13.42 | tmzt | Kevin2: how can I trace writes to a register and gpio changes at the same time? |
| 04:22.46 | tmzt | Kevin2: < WyrM> writes to gpsr and gpcr. does it work simultaneously with the spi trace? |
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| 04:34.45 | tmzt | cr2_: < WyrM> writes to gpsr and gpcr. does it work simultaneously with the spi trace? |
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| 04:42.41 | BHSPitMonkey | waves |
| 04:46.37 | tmzt | hi |
| 05:04.16 | druidu | hello |
| 05:04.37 | tmzt | hey |
| 05:05.10 | tmzt | your patch looks cool, I can see the need for an early_printk |
| 05:05.53 | tmzt | where is it crashing now? ) |
| 05:20.00 | BHSPitMonkey | Has there been much playing with Android here in the last day or two, or does discussion here stay pretty low-level? |
| 05:24.18 | tmzt | BHSPitMonkey: new android? |
| 05:24.27 | tmzt | BHSPitMonkey: logs are at http://irclog.iclem.net |
| 05:25.02 | BHSPitMonkey | Well, in light of the source release |
| 05:25.27 | tmzt | I don't know if anyone here has successfully built it |
| 05:25.30 | tmzt | what device? |
| 05:25.38 | ali1234 | BHSPitMonkey: the discussions was mainly along the lines of "what can we steal from the kernel source?" |
| 05:25.47 | tmzt | focus is largely on kernel |
| 05:26.02 | tmzt | yeah, those apply to the msm devices |
| 05:27.11 | ali1234 | BHSPitMonkey: #android is very active |
| 05:27.37 | BHSPitMonkey | Ah |
| 05:28.08 | BHSPitMonkey | I thought they're more along the lines of SDK discussion, maybe end-user support now |
| 05:28.42 | ali1234 | BHSPitMonkey: all of that, and more |
| 05:31.24 | ali1234 | does anybody have any experience with the brf6150 bluetooth chip? i need to figure out what fireware revision mine has i think... |
| 05:33.09 | tmzt | ask in #bluez when jhe comes back, I guess |
| 05:33.31 | tmzt | but the firmware is loaded into it, isn't it |
| 05:34.07 | ali1234 | tmzt: yes, but hciattach needs an initscript, and there are multiple versions depending on what fw version you have |
| 05:34.50 | ali1234 | tmzt: at least i think that is what is happening... anyway neither of the ones i have work fully... but one works slightly better than the other |
| 05:35.21 | tmzt | BHSPitMonkey: I guess android focus here is running it on other htc devices, don't know if that's what you mean |
| 05:37.16 | BHSPitMonkey | tmzt, well, I'd be very interested in seeing Android on my (old) HTC, which means I'm either looking around for other people working on a port, or I may start trying to learn the ins an outs myself |
| 05:37.50 | tmzt | which one? |
| 05:37.55 | BHSPitMonkey | StarTrek |
| 05:38.00 | tmzt | oh, fun |
| 05:38.01 | ali1234 | wow that is old |
| 05:38.12 | BHSPitMonkey | ali1234, I prefer "Vintage" :P |
| 05:38.15 | tmzt | I have a samsung wm2003 (shipped with 2002) |
| 05:38.18 | tmzt | smartphone |
| 05:38.20 | BHSPitMonkey | "Experienced", etc |
| 05:38.53 | BHSPitMonkey | I'm not really sure how good Android's smartphone support is, though. Most everything I've seen has been geared toward touchscreens |
| 05:39.43 | BHSPitMonkey | ali1234, it feels a little less old since I've been able to flash WinMo6.1 onto it, but it's still just putting lipstick on a pig |
| 05:39.53 | tmzt | do you know the resolution? |
| 05:40.19 | BHSPitMonkey | I should |
| 05:40.22 | tmzt | I might look at getting the old home screen to work on released android, for qvga widescreen |
| 05:40.31 | tmzt | but if it's 262?? don't know |
| 05:41.05 | BHSPitMonkey | 240x320 |
| 05:41.16 | ali1234 | BHSPitMonkey: i have a philips nino with ce 2.0 somewhere... must be over 10 years old now |
| 05:41.17 | BHSPitMonkey | so, qvga tallscreen :P |
| 05:41.59 | tmzt | mipsel! |
| 05:42.09 | BHSPitMonkey | ali1234, nice. You've got a phone a little over half my own age. |
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| 05:42.21 | tmzt | it's a phone? |
| 05:42.26 | ali1234 | it's not a phone, just a pda |
| 05:42.36 | tmzt | does it have cf card slot? |
| 05:42.38 | ali1234 | and yeah, it's mipsel |
| 05:42.46 | ali1234 | yes it has CF |
| 05:42.50 | BruteFrce | how hard is it to boot a kernel with the htc bootloader instead of using haret? |
| 05:43.03 | tmzt | I was looking at a little pda with cf and qwerty keyboard with ce 2.0 |
| 05:43.05 | ali1234 | BruteFrce: it's very easy. get eol and port to your device |
| 05:43.10 | tmzt | can't find which one |
| 05:43.19 | BHSPitMonkey | I have a Dell Axim X5 (the original Axim line), complete with fat battery and CF |
| 05:43.34 | tmzt | can you crack/bruteforce strong crypto? |
| 05:43.39 | ali1234 | tmzt: well the nino is about the size of a 3.5" HD and about as heavy |
| 05:43.41 | BruteFrce | ali1234 how do you port it? |
| 05:43.55 | BHSPitMonkey | CF are still my favorite flash memory, I love that form factor |
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| 05:44.10 | ali1234 | BruteFrce: you get the source then change the display routines to work on your hardware then compile it |
| 05:44.11 | tmzt | I just wanted two slots and didn't have the money |
| 05:44.21 | tmzt | so I could have storage and wifi! |
| 05:44.24 | BruteFrce | ya thats no easy |
| 05:44.32 | BHSPitMonkey | heh |
| 05:44.52 | BHSPitMonkey | BruteFrce, of course it is, you don't even have to get up out of your chair |
| 05:44.57 | tmzt | I should be nicer, you meant htc bootloader not the one on g1 |
| 05:45.05 | BruteFrce | theres not a version for my device already? is there one for wizard? |
| 05:45.13 | BHSPitMonkey | just push buttons on a keyboard in a very specific order |
| 05:45.15 | ali1234 | BruteFrce: yes but it wont work on your display |
| 05:45.45 | BruteFrce | why? |
| 05:46.48 | BruteFrce | same display roatated |
| 05:46.48 | ali1234 | tmzt: i have eol working on wizard. just put in sd card and hold the camera button while turning on |
| 05:46.49 | ali1234 | BruteFrce: well you know you needed to patch the lcd controller? you need to patch eol too |
| 05:46.49 | tmzt | what is eol? |
| 05:46.54 | BruteFrce | will booting this way give m a writable system? or will it stillbe read only? |
| 05:47.06 | ali1234 | BruteFrce: you can have a writable system with haret |
| 05:47.08 | BruteFrce | eol is acustom bootloader i take it |
| 05:47.32 | BruteFrce | ali1234 how? |
| 05:47.48 | BruteFrce | manually mounting the mem card everytime? |
| 05:48.15 | BruteFrce | and wont using eol gve the system access to more ram? |
| 05:48.52 | tmzt | the kernel takes over the machine, what's reserving ram? |
| 05:49.00 | ali1234 | BruteFrce: just copy the root filesystem onto an sd partition and set root=/dev/whatever |
| 05:49.16 | ali1234 | tmzt: http://vivien.chappelier.free.fr/typhoon/install.html - all about eol |
| 05:49.22 | tmzt | that matters when haret is booting, so it has somewhere to but the kernel/initrd |
| 05:49.33 | tmzt | but that gets overwritten |
| 05:49.38 | ali1234 | tmzt: it works by preteding to be a htc diagnostic sd card |
| 05:49.51 | tmzt | if you use initramfs, it gets extracted to tmpfs (ramdisk) |
| 05:50.11 | BHSPitMonkey | by the way, is there a smartphone-friendly version of Haret? Last time I tried running it (this past summer), merely having the app open made my phone too unstable to keep it |
| 05:50.20 | tmzt | then that gets freed when it switches to root |
| 05:50.43 | tmzt | for strtrk? |
| 05:51.01 | BruteFrce | tmzt imnot understanding a thing your saying |
| 05:51.44 | tmzt | because I am tired |
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| 05:52.37 | tmzt | you need mtdnand driver for excalibur, then you can write to the flash. you can do this even booted from haret |
| 05:53.00 | par | huh? what about the strtrk? |
| 05:53.06 | BHSPitMonkey | tmzt, yeah, startrek |
| 05:53.48 | BHSPitMonkey | par, I wants a startrek-friendly haret to play with |
| 05:53.58 | BruteFrce | umm okay... |
| 05:54.16 | BHSPitMonkey | it's possible the version I used back in the summer is grossly out-dated now, though |
| 05:54.32 | BHSPitMonkey | maybe the current haret is nicer to smartphones |
| 05:54.35 | par | gnu-haret? |
| 05:54.43 | par | how many variants of haret are there now? |
| 05:55.01 | BHSPitMonkey | I don't know; I'm new at this :P |
| 05:55.16 | BHSPitMonkey | is gnu-haret another version of haret I should try? |
| 05:55.20 | tmzt | I think gnuharet was focues on omap, but has some dumpers from other chips |
| 05:55.42 | tmzt | there's also haret-w, which does something but I can't remember what |
| 05:55.42 | ali1234 | BHSPitMonkey: star trek is omap 850, like my wizard... |
| 05:55.55 | tmzt | oh, you can start with omapfb regs then |
| 05:56.26 | tmzt | there was a c program posted here a week or two ago to extract the timings for the board-x.c file |
| 05:56.28 | BHSPitMonkey | surely people have already played with strtrks in a more complex way than I could |
| 05:56.38 | BHSPitMonkey | but I'll try to tinker with it later |
| 05:57.16 | BHSPitMonkey | is there a solid home page for gnu-haret? I've noticed that this app (and its variants)'s web presence stinks |
| 05:57.44 | ali1234 | http://www.handhelds.org/~koconnor/haret/ is what iuse on wizard |
| 05:58.18 | tmzt | the omap stuff should be in there now, I was just saying I remeber that being why gnuharet existed |
| 05:58.28 | ali1234 | and the instructions are at http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HaRET_20Documentation |
| 05:58.37 | BHSPitMonkey | ali1234, reaffirming my last statement ;) |
| 05:59.05 | tmzt | if omapfb works you can always make the rest work later |
| 06:01.22 | BHSPitMonkey | okay, well I've definitely got to hit the shower and get some sleep |
| 06:02.41 | BHSPitMonkey | this has been enlightening; I'll be lurking here more often for sure |
| 06:03.04 | BruteFrce | lol we got another one |
| 06:03.35 | tmzt | another what? |
| 06:03.57 | tmzt | ali1234: what's going on with omap850 bluetooth/tty ? |
| 06:05.10 | ali1234 | tmzt: the tty problem is well understood, it's just a matter of getting around to it |
| 06:05.20 | BruteFrce | lol |
| 06:05.31 | BruteFrce | meaning he hasnt touched it |
| 06:06.35 | tmzt | it's hard to make uart work and tty memory shared driver at the same time |
| 06:06.46 | ali1234 | tmzt: why? |
| 06:06.59 | tmzt | I mean, a person to make both work at the same time |
| 06:07.17 | ali1234 | tmzt: well i'm not the only developer |
| 06:07.31 | BruteFrce | tmzt we mapped some shortcuts in matchbox we can now launch an xterm and switch between runnin windows |
| 06:08.31 | tmzt | ok, silven?? is working on upstream and wizard, excalibur should be pretty simple |
| 06:08.38 | BruteFrce | so x is almost fuly functional |
| 06:08.46 | ali1234 | tmzt: the uarts are working now and im 99% sure i have the right gpio for bt power. i just need to know how to tell if the chip is responding or not. it could be that the only reason it is not working is because my dbus is broken or smething silly like that |
| 06:09.06 | tmzt | you using bluez 4.x then? |
| 06:09.19 | tmzt | I could suggest debian, at least it's known to work |
| 06:09.26 | tmzt | as a testing env |
| 06:09.31 | ali1234 | tmzt: i dont know... using the bluez from babelO's rootfs which he used to get it working on artemis |
| 06:09.42 | BruteFrce | tmzt they already said the devices are to different nd they dont want nything to do with excalibur |
| 06:09.55 | BruteFrce | miknix did |
| 06:10.07 | tmzt | that should be too old for the dbus stuff |
| 06:10.23 | ali1234 | tmzt: i have no idea... image has dbus in it... |
| 06:10.43 | tmzt | I know, but this is htc-linux not linwizard, getting wizard into git first and then htc-omap here |
| 06:10.51 | tmzt | or another branch |
| 06:10.59 | ali1234 | tmzt: hciattach runs successfully, hciconfig sees it, but when i hciconfig hci0 up it times out |
| 06:11.04 | tmzt | they don't want to support it in userspace |
| 06:11.14 | tmzt | without a full maintainer |
| 06:11.30 | BruteFrce | i dont know what you meant by te git comment |
| 06:11.38 | BruteFrce | the |
| 06:11.51 | tmzt | I mean making 2.6.27 support omap850 and wizard |
| 06:11.57 | tmzt | ready for upstream |
| 06:11.59 | tmzt | kernel.org |
| 06:12.01 | ali1234 | BruteFrce: git is the scm software used for linux kernelsource |
| 06:12.11 | BruteFrce | penguinz coud be a full maintainer thats not the reaso they think th hw differs to much |
| 06:12.14 | tmzt | then we can pull it into a branch here |
| 06:12.20 | BruteFrce | i knowwhat git is |
| 06:12.31 | BruteFrce | know what |
| 06:13.05 | tmzt | miknix asked me about the maintainer thing, before is saw penguinz HAD an excalibur and wanted to use it with linux/gizard |
| 06:13.12 | BruteFrce | god no one ever buy an excalibur, they keypad is shite |
| 06:13.33 | BruteFrce | tmzt i talked to him way after that |
| 06:13.38 | tmzt | it's a really small device, the keyboard is going to be small |
| 06:13.50 | BruteFrce | like i said before they think the hw is way different |
| 06:14.18 | BruteFrce | i have ad many small keypads this one is almost not usable |
| 06:14.31 | tmzt | sorry, I see likes as likes, it may be omap850 which makes suporting it in kernel one thing |
| 06:14.49 | tmzt | but it's qvga widescreen and a phone, which makes userspace a completely different thing |
| 06:15.00 | BruteFrce | ya but they think all the radio hw is different |
| 06:15.21 | tmzt | it could be, or at least the microkernel could be |
| 06:15.33 | tmzt | or it could be abstracted by gsm/at commands |
| 06:15.52 | BruteFrce | anyways just saying its ot cause they have no maintainer |
| 06:16.14 | BruteFrce | not |
| 06:16.21 | ali1234 | actually the radio roms from any omap850 device should be completely interchangable as far as linux is concerned |
| 06:16.58 | BruteFrce | well im just going by what miknix said |
| 06:17.17 | ali1234 | by which i mean under linux all the omap850s could use eg the wizard radio rom and get the same abstraction |
| 06:17.43 | tmzt | if you can build a kernel (make zImage) that works on your device, and the source is in a public git repository, and there is an irc channel where you can ask people how to make it work |
| 06:17.53 | tmzt | then you can use linux on your device |
| 06:18.02 | BruteFrce | maybe it has something to do wit one phone havig second core and thother not.... |
| 06:18.19 | tmzt | ali1234: do all omap850 phones use 2nd core for gsm? |
| 06:18.29 | BruteFrce | tmzt what are you getting at? |
| 06:18.32 | tmzt | ali1234: or is there a seperate omap730 or something? |
| 06:18.35 | ali1234 | tmzt: yes both cores are inside the omap850 |
| 06:18.46 | BruteFrce | not hat i read |
| 06:18.49 | ali1234 | tmzt: 730 is just an older version of 850 |
| 06:18.49 | BruteFrce | what |
| 06:19.05 | tmzt | ali1234: I mean it is used for some ti cell phone chips |
| 06:19.33 | ali1234 | tmzt: what? |
| 06:19.43 | BruteFrce | tmzt what ae you trying o explain with all that you were saying? |
| 06:19.55 | ali1234 | tmzt: omap850 is a TI cellphone chip... |
| 06:20.20 | BruteFrce | yup texs insturments |
| 06:20.25 | BruteFrce | texas |
| 06:20.28 | tmzt | sorry, I mean like in ezx phones, freerunner?? etc. where it is not the application processor |
| 06:20.58 | ali1234 | tmzt: omap850 has two cores in it |
| 06:21.27 | ali1234 | tmzt: i guess you could just disable the app core and only use the other with a different cpu... but why? |
| 06:21.42 | tmzt | I know that omap850 has two cores, I was not one hunred percent sure it was always used for cell radio |
| 06:21.45 | BruteFrce | i dont know if all do. i read the excalibur has one core for radio and the os |
| 06:22.08 | tmzt | is typhoon an omap chip? |
| 06:22.17 | ali1234 | tmzt: yes 730 i think |
| 06:22.25 | BruteFrce | 1 |
| 06:22.45 | ali1234 | tmzt: note that the gsm driver for 730 is virtually identical to the one for 850 |
| 06:23.16 | tmzt | ok, that's what I meant. In some devices the omap only does phone, in wizard,etc. it does both |
| 06:23.29 | BruteFrce | why did you stop workingon the tty driver for pppd? |
| 06:23.36 | ali1234 | tmzt: in wizard, hurricane, tornado, typhoon... |
| 06:24.14 | ali1234 | tmzt: excalibur presumably too, if linwizard kernel boots on it |
| 06:24.26 | BruteFrce | ali1234 ... |
| 06:24.52 | tmzt | ali1234: you should clone() and give on pid to BruteFrce |
| 06:24.56 | tmzt | one |
| 06:24.58 | BruteFrce | i mean isnt it the most iportant thing to make linwizard usable |
| 06:24.59 | tmzt | fork() |
| 06:25.21 | BruteFrce | important |
| 06:25.33 | BruteFrce | no to penguinz |
| 06:25.44 | tmzt | Q |
| 06:25.46 | tmzt | BruteFrce: can you disable autocomplete, I found it in phone options on Q |
| 06:25.50 | BruteFrce | i wouldnt know what to do withit |
| 06:26.06 | BruteFrce | autocomplete what? |
| 06:26.23 | tmzt | autocomplete text in wm |
| 06:26.28 | tmzt | when you type |
| 06:26.36 | BruteFrce | im not using xt9 |
| 06:26.48 | BruteFrce | its annoying and slightly roken |
| 06:26.51 | BruteFrce | broke |
| 06:27.30 | BruteFrce | if thats wat you mean tmzt, why? |
| 06:27.49 | tmzt | I guess, I just found out you can shut it off and it annoys me |
| 06:28.20 | BruteFrce | you use xt9? |
| 06:29.06 | tmzt | it's not called that, but I have never turned it off |
| 06:29.38 | tmzt | called that on mine |
| 06:29.54 | BruteFrce | it is clled xt9 on this device |
| 06:30.06 | BruteFrce | omg my keypad is getting worse |
| 06:30.34 | tmzt | how? |
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| 06:32.05 | BruteFrce | the typos |
| 06:32.45 | BruteFrce | it annoys me |
| 06:32.50 | ptl | ok.... guys... I'll ask THAT question again.. don't kick me, please... what is the current state of the Linux port to HTC Athena? wifi drivers? bluetooth, vueflo, keyboard? sorry, I went to the xda-developers page for that and it isn't been updated, it seems. |
| 06:33.10 | tmzt | as in XDA? |
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| 06:33.13 | ptl | I am specially interested now that Android is really really out, integrally |
| 06:33.31 | tmzt | no, I need to go to bed |
| 06:33.36 | BruteFrce | android isnt like god geez |
| 06:33.45 | tmzt | Advantage? |
| 06:34.05 | BruteFrce | its like everything gogle touches turns to gold |
| 06:34.11 | BruteFrce | google |
| 06:34.24 | tmzt | I think you can ask cr2_ or BabelO (who should be here soon, ususally), if I remember reading right |
| 06:35.07 | BruteFrce | tmzt what did youmean by cloning me a fork? |
| 06:35.36 | tmzt | man clone; man fork |
| 06:35.48 | tmzt | fork makes a copy of there current process |
| 06:35.54 | tmzt | clone is what linux kernel calls it |
| 06:36.30 | tmzt | then the same program is running twice, fork() returns a pid (process id [number]) in one |
| 06:36.38 | tmzt | and 0? in the other |
| 06:38.30 | BruteFrce | okay what does hat have to do with me? |
| 06:38.58 | ptl | you don't understand |
| 06:39.05 | ptl | I'd just like to get rid of windows mobile |
| 06:39.07 | tmzt | he was on linwizard working on uart early so can't be working on tty at the same time |
| 06:40.20 | BruteFrce | so you wer kidding? |
| 06:40.38 | ptl | ? |
| 06:40.40 | ptl | oh |
| 06:42.44 | BruteFrce | how is uart a higher priority than gettingthe phone working as a phone? |
| 06:43.03 | ali1234 | BruteFrce: i dont like to call people |
| 06:43.24 | tmzt | it's need for gprs to work though |
| 06:43.28 | BruteFrce | your such a funny guy |
| 06:44.21 | BruteFrce | i think its too hard |
| 06:44.48 | tmzt | or maybe uart is a little easier and can be done first |
| 06:45.03 | BruteFrce | ya pretty much |
| 06:45.11 | tmzt | since it's a known quantity (mostly) and the link between cores isn't |
| 06:45.41 | ali1234 | also we have no audio support so you cant make phonecalls anyway |
| 06:45.58 | BruteFrce | i just wan get ctrl and the damn keyboard arrows working |
| 06:46.15 | BruteFrce | i dont want to make phone calls i want gprs |
| 06:46.29 | tmzt | then you need silven's upstream work |
| 06:46.42 | BruteFrce | and im surean audio driver isnt that difficult |
| 06:46.46 | tmzt | or to debug it, troubleshoot it |
| 06:47.39 | ptl | so it's still at early stages... |
| 06:47.45 | tmzt | ptl: what is? |
| 06:47.48 | BruteFrce | what about other omap phones that already have gprs support in linux? |
| 06:47.58 | tmzt | we are talking about excalibur/dash |
| 06:48.10 | BruteFrce | cant we use that work? |
| 06:48.18 | tmzt | ali1234: are there any omap phones that have gprs support in linux? |
| 06:48.23 | tmzt | ali1234: or only at commands? |
| 06:48.43 | BruteFrce | yes i know for a factthere is |
| 06:48.56 | BruteFrce | the vox hasit |
| 06:49.27 | BruteFrce | i read about a few omap phones that have working calls gprs and sms |
| 06:49.55 | ptl | tmzt: linux for the athena, for using with android |
| 06:50.49 | tmzt | sorry, I don't know |
| 06:50.52 | BruteFrce | ptl we dont kno about that phone, some users that are coming soon will |
| 06:51.44 | tmzt | BruteFrce: if vox works, and it's omap, get a kernel source/git tree for it and paste that here, someone will look at it |
| 06:52.26 | BruteFrce | too much work with no comp |
| 06:52.33 | BruteFrce | they can google |
| 06:52.38 | tmzt | you get no access? |
| 06:52.49 | BruteFrce | huh? |
| 06:53.08 | tmzt | maybe you could just get a bluetooth usb and when ali1234 gets that working use pan |
| 06:53.26 | BruteFrce | pan? |
| 06:53.31 | tmzt | you don't have access to a computer at all? |
| 06:53.43 | tmzt | pan is bluetooth networking, ethernet over bluetooth |
| 06:53.51 | BruteFrce | no no computer access yo know that |
| 06:54.09 | tmzt | I thought you could use it sometimes, but yeah, I knew that |
| 06:54.17 | BruteFrce | what good will pan do me with no comp |
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| 06:54.39 | BruteFrce | im not buying stuff either or id just buy a kaiser |
| 06:54.45 | BruteFrce | or a dream |
| 06:54.46 | tmzt | if you could set it up, you could leave it so you could access internet on the dash |
| 06:55.11 | BruteFrce | only when 4 feet away from a comp what use is that? |
| 06:55.19 | BruteFrce | might as well use the comp |
| 06:55.46 | BruteFrce | i need wifi or gprs |
| 06:56.23 | tmzt | the new android ti wifi is out, but it could be a lot of work to get it working on excalibur if it's right at all |
| 06:57.03 | BruteFrce | ya looked ito that already |
| 06:57.16 | BruteFrce | penguinz got the kernel going |
| 06:57.39 | tmzt | penguinz got wifi? what do you mean "kernel going"? |
| 06:57.46 | BruteFrce | doesnt really change anything woul still need drivers for all the radio hardware an sound |
| 06:57.56 | BruteFrce | the android kernel |
| 06:58.15 | BruteFrce | you just mentioned using android |
| 06:58.17 | tmzt | android kernel is msm, what did he get going on excalibur? |
| 06:58.41 | tmzt | wifi chip driver in android.git.kernel.org ti.git |
| 06:58.47 | BruteFrce | android he patchedit for omap, others ave done it |
| 06:58.57 | tmzt | is a wifi driver for linux kernel, used in g1 |
| 06:59.11 | tmzt | same or similar to the one used in omap850 |
| 06:59.13 | BruteFrce | doesnt matter since the userspacecant be used |
| 06:59.37 | BruteFrce | its yyafs |
| 06:59.49 | BruteFrce | need raw flash |
| 07:00.05 | tmzt | or you can repack it as something your kernel uses |
| 07:00.09 | BruteFrce | its alot of work to get the userspace usable |
| 07:00.17 | ezak | hi there any news about a new rootfs initrd? |
| 07:00.24 | tmzt | not you without computer, but somebody |
| 07:00.29 | BruteFrce | fr what |
| 07:00.31 | ezak | new kernel allow incoming outgoing calls |
| 07:00.34 | ezak | android |
| 07:00.48 | ezak | dcordes built a new kernel yesternight |
| 07:00.53 | tmzt | on what device? kaiser? |
| 07:01.00 | tmzt | vouge/titan? |
| 07:01.01 | ezak | btw BruteFrce ezak = kaze ;) |
| 07:01.06 | ezak | kaiser |
| 07:01.36 | BruteFrce | tmzt there is alot more work than that acording to penguinz he said the kernel was easy but geting userspace is a ton of work |
| 07:01.50 | BruteFrce | i could care less |
| 07:02.04 | tmzt | I was not talking about android userspace though |
| 07:02.14 | tmzt | I was talking about some code that google released |
| 07:02.22 | tmzt | for making the wifi chip in the g1 work |
| 07:02.28 | BruteFrce | huh? |
| 07:02.31 | tmzt | that could help making wifi on omap850 work |
| 07:02.32 | ezak | yup i read |
| 07:02.55 | BruteFrce | the wifi chip on the dream is not evenclose to the ompa wfi |
| 07:03.32 | tmzt | ezak: not sure what you are referring to, ril or smd |
| 07:04.57 | tmzt | BruteFrce: somebody said it's not similar, I didn't see that? |
| 07:05.15 | tmzt | BruteFrce: my understanding was msm used an sdio interface and omap did not |
| 07:05.24 | tmzt | BruteFrce: but the actual chip was more similar |
| 07:05.32 | tmzt | BruteFrce: and used shared memory in both cases |
| 07:06.10 | BruteFrce | why would they be similar? and if they wee why hasnt the linwizard project taken advantage? |
| 07:06.25 | tmzt | because it was only released yesterday? |
| 07:06.37 | BruteFrce | lol |
| 07:06.56 | tmzt | and the driver is not written in the traditional kernel style |
| 07:07.33 | BruteFrce | well there is not much i can do with this information and linwizard hasl ke 2 devs one wants uart and one is doing upsteam so i dunno... |
| 07:08.28 | tmzt | upstream also means the new wifi stack, I imagine, which is what most wifi drivers will use |
| 07:09.11 | BruteFrce | lol okay, stilll |
| 07:09.44 | tmzt | why are these things funny? |
| 07:10.12 | BruteFrce | because i dont understand why you are telling me |
| 07:10.28 | BruteFrce | like half the stuff you says goes over my head man |
| 07:10.34 | BruteFrce | say |
| 07:11.09 | BruteFrce | im so switchng devices this keypad is retarded |
| 07:11.10 | tmzt | wifi - wireless fidelity - a standard way to transmit data over the air using devices that do not have to be licensed by the user |
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| 07:12.04 | BruteFrce | see there you go... defining wifi for what reason? |
| 07:13.01 | tmzt | one, this channel is logged so I am trying to make google smarter |
| 07:13.35 | NetRipper | tmzt, you refer to the traditional kernel style.. i'm new to kernel hacking.. is there a basic kernel coding guidelines site you can recommend me? |
| 07:13.36 | tmzt | not the wifi thing, I'll let wiki media do that |
| 07:13.37 | BruteFrce | what?! |
| 07:13.52 | tmzt | look in the kernel tree / Documents |
| 07:13.58 | BruteFrce | are you high? |
| 07:13.59 | tmzt | CodingStyle, I think |
| 07:14.19 | NetRipper | ok thx |
| 07:14.30 | BruteFrce | tmzt i think your stoned |
| 07:14.43 | tmzt | NetRipper asked a question, I tried as best I could to answer it |
| 07:14.58 | BruteFrce | not regaurding that |
| 07:15.03 | tmzt | if he didn't understand my answer he might tell me what part of it he did not understand |
| 07:15.20 | tmzt | for instance, he might speak Spanish or German, which I do not |
| 07:15.22 | BruteFrce | see you just ignore what i say |
| 07:15.25 | NetRipper | i understood alright, and it was exactly what i'm looking for |
| 07:15.25 | NetRipper | :) |
| 07:15.44 | swetland | making google smarter is probably easier than making googlers smarter |
| 07:15.52 | BruteFrce | i wasnt talking about what you said to him or google |
| 07:16.13 | BruteFrce | lol this is why i thnk he is stoned |
| 07:16.20 | tmzt | I guess the keyword theory is proved :) |
| 07:16.48 | tmzt | I am going to bed though |
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| 07:17.10 | BruteFrce | lol bet ya wont have trouble seeping |
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| 07:42.13 | ali1234 | hey i think it's working!! |
| 07:42.27 | ali1234 | i need to find my bluetooth dongle for pc so i can test it |
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| 07:45.57 | ali1234 | yes it's working |
| 07:51.58 | BruteFrce | you have net over bt? |
| 07:52.04 | tmzt | cool |
| 07:52.29 | BruteFrce | lol tmzt thought you went to sleep? |
| 07:52.35 | tmzt | do you know what wifi is in omap850 |
| 07:52.45 | tmzt | and you thought I passed out? so |
| 07:53.23 | ezak | how could i setup gprs link in android |
| 07:53.54 | tmzt | no, I have mobilepro900c which has a really nice small keyboard, and supports irssi in linux console nicely |
| 07:54.00 | tmzt | it's also very portable |
| 07:54.47 | tmzt | ezak: kaiser?, dcordes has a script for older android |
| 07:54.53 | BruteFrce | tmzt who ya talkin too? |
| 07:57.00 | tmzt | ali1234: do you know what wifi is in omap850 |
| 07:57.02 | tmzt | ? |
| 07:57.12 | ali1234 | tmzt: i think it's tnetw1250 |
| 07:57.42 | ali1234 | i only got the bluetooth to detect another bluetooth device nearby. i havent set up any thing else |
| 07:57.46 | tmzt | has there been any determination on the android [kernel] ti.git usefulness to omap? |
| 07:57.54 | ali1234 | tmzt: not that i know of |
| 07:58.05 | ali1234 | it was only released yesterday :) |
| 07:58.43 | BruteFrce | ahaha you guys should have a routine |
| 07:58.48 | tmzt | well, hci works at least |
| 08:01.27 | BruteFrce | tmzt what phone do you have again? |
| 08:01.38 | tmzt | moto q |
| 08:02.19 | tmzt | the original with the plastic keys |
| 08:02.22 | BruteFrce | oh ya why the hell was i thinkin you had a kaiser |
| 08:02.41 | BruteFrce | that has an intel xscale proc right? |
| 08:02.46 | tmzt | dcordes has a kaiser, we worked on touchscreen on it before |
| 08:02.48 | tmzt | yes |
| 08:03.45 | tmzt | I was working with WyrM on usb earlier |
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| 08:03.51 | BruteFrce | what speed is that |
| 08:03.55 | tmzt | ptl: you had athena? |
| 08:04.12 | tmzt | not sure, I can get /proc/cpuinfo next time I boot linux |
| 08:04.25 | tmzt | hold on, I'll check wm |
| 08:04.39 | BruteFrce | im guessing 200mhz |
| 08:05.13 | tmzt | doesn't say |
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| 08:05.25 | BabelO_ | morning |
| 08:05.28 | BabelO_ | kiozen: around ? |
| 08:05.51 | BruteFrce | i wonder if its on phonescoop |
| 08:06.40 | tmzt | my mp900c (pxa25x) has BogoMips: 397.31 |
| 08:07.24 | tmzt | if you want a bigger keyboard in similar form factor, q is a little bigger |
| 08:07.30 | BruteFrce | what about clock cycle |
| 08:07.43 | BruteFrce | oh i wouldnt get a q |
| 08:07.46 | tmzt | I don't like the new keyboards, but some people who have it do that I have talked to |
| 08:08.04 | tmzt | yeah, wouldn't think so |
| 08:08.16 | tmzt | I would have got xv6800 if it was out then |
| 08:08.19 | BruteFrce | i would get a universal kaiser or a dream if i could find one |
| 08:08.43 | tmzt | I knew it was coming but even mogul was almost a year later than I got the q |
| 08:09.00 | par | what are you running on the q? |
| 08:09.14 | tmzt | wm5 right now, I think its aku3 |
| 08:09.35 | BruteFrce | why not 6.1? |
| 08:09.37 | tmzt | I have linux/debian booting from sd |
| 08:09.47 | tmzt | do you know where to download it? |
| 08:10.00 | BruteFrce | do you use eol as well? |
| 08:10.09 | tmzt | haret |
| 08:10.25 | BruteFrce | there is no cooked roms? have ya checked xda forums? |
| 08:10.25 | tmzt | not booting from sd, running from sd as root filesystem, sorry |
| 08:10.33 | BruteFrce | oh |
| 08:10.43 | tmzt | would rather have a q9m or q9c rom on it |
| 08:10.51 | BruteFrce | how did you partition your sd card, or did you? |
| 08:11.12 | tmzt | originally, but I have haret in flash right now |
| 08:11.34 | tmzt | I have a 4gb microSD to put debian armel on before I try again |
| 08:11.46 | BruteFrce | huh? |
| 08:11.51 | tmzt | but wm5 won't read it |
| 08:12.02 | tmzt | yeah, wm6 could help |
| 08:12.23 | tmzt | huh, what? |
| 08:12.25 | BruteFrce | did you partition your sd card? |
| 08:12.47 | tmzt | I partitioned my 1gb card when I tested it first, yes |
| 08:12.48 | BruteFrce | or just use one soley for linux? |
| 08:13.00 | BruteFrce | how? |
| 08:13.03 | tmzt | I will probably partition the 4gb as well |
| 08:13.06 | tmzt | with linux fdisk |
| 08:13.06 | BruteFrce | just windows? |
| 08:13.08 | tmzt | no |
| 08:13.12 | BruteFrce | aw |
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| 08:13.54 | tmzt | you can use disk managment to do it though |
| 08:13.58 | BruteFrce | so does it still use a ramdisk? |
| 08:14.29 | tmzt | you can format with tools for win32, mke2fs does run on there |
| 08:15.00 | tmzt | and you can access the raw disk with a \\.\ trick or use the nt kernel name |
| 08:15.12 | ali1234 | BabelO: i got bluetooth working in "slow" mode (115200) but couldn't get the .bst to work in high speed. how did you find the right one for your device? |
| 08:15.14 | tmzt | it was in colinux wiki |
| 08:15.15 | BruteFrce | theres not really a way to make windows view only the sd card, i canjust do it in indows |
| 08:15.35 | tmzt | view what? |
| 08:15.59 | BruteFrce | the sd card what e were just talking about |
| 08:16.06 | BruteFrce | its okay ill do it in linux |
| 08:16.10 | BabelO_ | ali1234: it is in your windows directory .bts file |
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| 08:16.15 | tmzt | what can't you view it? |
| 08:16.21 | tmzt | why |
| 08:16.25 | szsoftware | morning |
| 08:16.38 | BruteFrce | it shows the whole phone |
| 08:16.45 | ali1234 | BabelO_: on windows mobile? wow |
| 08:16.46 | BruteFrce | not just the card |
| 08:16.51 | tmzt | you don't have a card reader? |
| 08:17.00 | BabelO_ | ali1234: yes look at TI.......bts |
| 08:17.15 | tmzt | you can probably find the nt name since psdwrite can do it |
| 08:17.42 | BruteFrce | ill just do it in linux... |
| 08:17.46 | tmzt | ok |
| 08:18.00 | BruteFrce | no i dont have a card reader, never had a use for one |
| 08:18.06 | tmzt | what are you trying to do? |
| 08:18.29 | tmzt | oh, forgot, yes I still use an initramfs (initfs.img) to get rootdelay= |
| 08:18.39 | BruteFrce | just make it run better, but will it still need a ramdisk? |
| 08:18.48 | tmzt | I think google just added a 1 second delay to the g1 kernel, according to a commit I saw |
| 08:18.50 | BruteFrce | oh |
| 08:19.03 | tmzt | it uses the ramdisk when booting, then it is freed |
| 08:19.32 | BruteFrce | oh sweet |
| 08:19.48 | BruteFrce | i would love to set that up |
| 08:19.52 | tmzt | still using gizard? |
| 08:20.05 | BruteFrce | linwizard ya |
| 08:20.18 | tmzt | you can probably expand it to the sd card on an ext2fs, should work fine |
| 08:20.38 | BruteFrce | why switch fs? |
| 08:20.41 | tmzt | unless they use linuxrc, in which case you need a /sbin/init or to add init=/linuxrc to the default.txt |
| 08:21.01 | tmzt | squashfs has to same negatives as a ramdisk mostly |
| 08:21.03 | BruteFrce | ya they use linuxrc |
| 08:21.08 | tmzt | has the |
| 08:21.16 | BruteFrce | oh |
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| 08:21.21 | swetland | tmzt: url? |
| 08:21.24 | tmzt | it has to decompress into memory but only part of it |
| 08:21.32 | swetland | if I can remove 1s from boot I'm happy to do so ^^ |
| 08:21.46 | BruteFrce | i would like to just use plain ol ext |
| 08:21.51 | tmzt | swetland: sorry, don't have it right now |
| 08:22.14 | BruteFrce | swetland you signed a 2 year contract? |
| 08:22.40 | tmzt | swetland: the handhelds.org kernels used an initramfs to implement a delay to allow mmc card to be scanned |
| 08:22.55 | swetland | no, I use my personal att/cingular sim at this point |
| 08:23.07 | swetland | but I'll probably eventually break down and get a tmobile sim |
| 08:23.14 | swetland | changing carriers is a hassle |
| 08:23.23 | swetland | but 3G would be nice |
| 08:23.24 | tmzt | I hear apple gave everyone iPhones |
| 08:23.40 | tmzt | don't know about contracts though |
| 08:24.02 | BruteFrce | swetland thought ya had a drram |
| 08:24.04 | szsoftware | swetland: morning. How to compile certain parts, e.g. only ti driver within your build system? |
| 08:24.05 | BruteFrce | dream |
| 08:24.26 | swetland | the driver is not, I think, built by the build system |
| 08:24.32 | swetland | but I'm not exactly a build system expert |
| 08:24.33 | BruteFrce | tmzt what country are you from? |
| 08:24.36 | szsoftware | swetland: btw. is it's plain name android build system, or is there a nice name for? |
| 08:25.02 | swetland | at one point it was called TDA (Total Dependency Awareness) but I think that was dropped long ago |
| 08:25.07 | tmzt | swetland: that might have been for testing since you don't boot g1 from mmc anyway |
| 08:25.17 | szsoftware | swetland: its with a lot of android metadata, or prepared for including in the build tree |
| 08:25.34 | swetland | I thought there was a standalone makefile for the kernel module |
| 08:25.37 | szsoftware | swetland: do you have normal source-package of ti wlan lying around? |
| 08:25.44 | swetland | gimme a second to see if I can find an email from the wifi guy |
| 08:25.45 | tmzt | BruteFrce: us, pretty far east of you though |
| 08:26.27 | szsoftware | swetland: ok, I looked over the source, but it's directory structure looked very weird |
| 08:26.36 | BruteFrce | east of maine? |
| 08:26.48 | BruteFrce | lol cant get much more east |
| 08:26.49 | szsoftware | swetland: not as I expect like other kernel modules |
| 08:27.03 | swetland | the kernel module part is not fully integrated into the build |
| 08:27.10 | swetland | we used to just have the sources in the kernel tree |
| 08:27.17 | swetland | but they're enormous and make for an insane patch set |
| 08:27.21 | swetland | try this: |
| 08:27.27 | swetland | cd /scratch/open/system/wlan/ti/sta_dk_4_0_4_32 |
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| 08:27.33 | szsoftware | swetland: that would be veeeery fine :-) |
| 08:27.39 | swetland | make KERNEL_DIR=/path/to/kernel/dir |
| 08:28.21 | BruteFrce | why does everyone call it the g1 when did we start using the carriers names for htc devices? |
| 08:28.37 | szsoftware | thanks for your advice |
| 08:28.37 | swetland | the build calls it dream |
| 08:28.42 | swetland | the kernel calls it trout |
| 08:28.46 | swetland | tmobile calls it g1 |
| 08:28.48 | BruteFrce | i thought we stuck to the htc names to avoid confusion |
| 08:29.16 | BruteFrce | why would anyone call it trout? |
| 08:29.25 | swetland | I was partially responsible for the name. I am somewhat surprised that htc adopted it and that it stuck |
| 08:29.42 | swetland | because we used fish for all our board names |
| 08:30.03 | szsoftware | swetland: are there introductions/howto/tutorial/explanation of TDA (if we have no better name, I will use this instead of android buils system. Or shall we say ABS?) :-) |
| 08:30.12 | swetland | so that we could register them with the machine name db plenty early and not worry about various peoples' codenames and whatnot |
| 08:30.29 | swetland | szs: there should be but I'm not sure where all the docs ended up externally |
| 08:30.47 | ezak | hi szsoftware did you built the 1.0 initrd you were talking about yesternight? |
| 08:31.13 | BruteFrce | everyone should just call it a dream |
| 08:31.17 | szsoftware | swetland: ok, will look for it again, although I found only android (java) sdk stuff |
| 08:31.32 | swetland | if you can't find it, post to one of the groups/lists |
| 08:31.46 | szsoftware | ezak: I have build android rootfs, yes. Initrd has to be prepared |
| 08:31.47 | swetland | the dev advocates and other folks watch 'em and somebody will likely know the answer |
| 08:31.57 | BruteFrce | i want the userspace |
| 08:32.56 | szsoftware | ezak: did you try building android, using their ABS? |
| 08:33.42 | szsoftware | ezak: so you could make an initrd too. I will have time for that in the evening |
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| 08:34.50 | ezak | szsoftware no i didnt |
| 08:34.56 | szsoftware | ahh, ezak=kaze :-) *blink* |
| 08:35.06 | ezak | szsoftware where can i find clear directions on buildin initrd? |
| 08:35.20 | ezak | hehe yup kaze but @ work |
| 08:35.48 | BruteFrce | so clever |
| 08:36.04 | BruteFrce | you should work for nasa |
| 08:36.13 | sir0x | lol ;) |
| 08:36.23 | szsoftware | ok, have to bring my son to the daynursery (haha, never needed this word in chatrooms before) |
| 08:36.49 | ezak | BruteFrce dont lecture me on being clever plz... |
| 08:37.00 | BruteFrce | who is sir0x lmao |
| 08:37.15 | BruteFrce | im not lecturing anyone kiddo |
| 08:37.46 | BruteFrce | learn to take a compliment |
| 08:40.20 | tmzt | swetland: trout: Delay initial MMC scanning for 1s, and first request by 250ms |
| 08:40.50 | tmzt | swetland: android-msm-htc-2.6.25 |
| 08:41.15 | tmzt | swetland: that's what I remember reading, it might be wrong/branch tree for g1 as shipped, don't know |
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| 08:41.32 | sir0x | szsoftware: you are helping to get android running on diamond right !? do you use some special debug-software to get the kernel running or just with debug-output on the screen ? |
| 08:41.55 | tmzt | druidu has a patch for early console now |
| 08:41.59 | sir0x | szsoftware: for watching registers, memory and so on |
| 08:42.26 | BruteFrce | tmzt so i just switch the fs to ext3 extract the initrd to the sd card and change the default.txt? |
| 08:42.48 | tmzt | yeah, should work |
| 08:42.58 | tmzt | the you will have gentoo installed on your phone |
| 08:43.27 | BruteFrce | how do i change a filesytem? |
| 08:43.40 | swetland | http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=kernel/msm.git;a=commit;h=8950ee83efa2e2e785901afc069efd074e81a78b |
| 08:44.05 | tmzt | yes |
| 08:44.08 | swetland | the 1s is schedule delayed work |
| 08:44.13 | swetland | so it doesn't impact boot |
| 08:44.28 | tmzt | sorry, only read the summary when skimming before |
| 08:44.41 | tmzt | looks like a good solution though |
| 08:44.50 | swetland | mdelay only on the card change |
| 08:44.53 | swetland | well it's not ideal |
| 08:45.10 | tmzt | but how will it affect finding partitions at boot time, not panicing |
| 08:45.11 | swetland | there's an issue where we were getting errors at boot due to some noise on the sdcc |
| 08:45.22 | swetland | which we're pretty sure was the radio firmware doing something dumb |
| 08:45.30 | swetland | but could never isolate it |
| 08:45.38 | sir0x | BruteFrce: on your sd-card ? with mkfs.ext3 /dev/sdxx ( where your sdcart is, you can get this info over dmesg ) but your existing data on the card will be lost |
| 08:46.04 | swetland | tmzt: not sure. for us it doesn't matter |
| 08:46.14 | tmzt | oh, we are trying to use an sd filesystem as root and the delay was needed |
| 08:46.25 | swetland | nods |
| 08:46.26 | tmzt | will remember to read commitdiff next time |
| 08:46.41 | swetland | no worries. took me a minute looking through it to see exactly what was going on |
| 08:47.07 | BruteFrce | sir0x i know how to format, im talking about the userspace |
| 08:47.36 | tmzt | sir0x: I guess you mean haret |
| 08:47.49 | tmzt | sir0x: HaRET on wiki |
| 08:48.43 | tmzt | BruteFrce: clever can mean different things in different parts of the world, not always good |
| 08:49.13 | BruteFrce | tmzt so even know the inird is squashfs if i format my sd card partition to ext3 it will work |
| 08:49.20 | sir0x | tmzt: is haret still running when the kernel is booting ? i thought it gives the hole control of the device to the kernel |
| 08:49.25 | BruteFrce | i dont care what means what where just here |
| 08:49.48 | tmzt | here is where? look at who runs this channel/xda-developers.net |
| 08:50.05 | BruteFrce | i dont care lol |
| 08:50.26 | BruteFrce | either does anyone else |
| 08:51.15 | tmzt | squashfs and ext3 are both linux filesystems, both are posix or close enough |
| 08:51.40 | tmzt | you can copy files from one to another, linux doesn't care which you use underneath |
| 08:51.44 | BruteFrce | okay so i dont have to change anything in the initrd? |
| 08:52.05 | tmzt | if you use init=/linuxrc it should work |
| 08:52.42 | tmzt | when init exits the kernel panics, when linuxrc exits it tries to mount a root filesystem based on two files in /proc/ |
| 08:53.14 | tmzt | but since linuxrc doesn't really exit in the case of linwizard initrd, it doesn't matter |
| 08:53.38 | BruteFrce | mmk so thats a no? |
| 08:53.58 | tmzt | tmpfs could have support for compressed files added if someone really wanted to |
| 08:54.20 | tmzt | a no? if you use init=/linuxrc linux can't tell the difference |
| 08:54.38 | BruteFrce | i dont know what that means |
| 08:54.55 | BruteFrce | do i need to change anything in the userspce image? |
| 08:56.50 | tmzt | I am saying you do not have to change anything if you use init=/linuxrc |
| 08:56.55 | tmzt | in default.txt |
| 08:57.06 | BruteFrce | okay |
| 08:57.44 | BruteFrce | wow they showed atto taking a bonghit |
| 08:59.07 | BruteFrce | oh how do i extract initrd to the sd card? |
| 09:02.33 | tmzt | on ubuntu? you need squashfs.ko |
| 09:03.13 | tmzt | it's on my ubuntu, that's how i was able to extract yours |
| 09:03.14 | tmzt | modprobe squashfs |
| 09:03.14 | tmzt | mount -o loop xx.img mnt |
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| 09:03.47 | tmzt | real undercover with that ident :} |
| 09:04.04 | BruteFrce | lol |
| 09:06.18 | ezak_ | compiling git port on bsd box |
| 09:06.34 | ezak_ | hopefully i have less trouble on this one than on amd64 one |
| 09:06.48 | ezak_ | FreeBSD hydric.dbp-aquitaine.net 6.1-RC FreeBSD 6.1-RC #0: Thu Apr 13 10:35:15 CEST 2006 kaze@hydric.dbp-aquitaine.net:/usr/obj/mnt/dd2/src/sys/GENERIC i386 |
| 09:06.53 | ezak_ | huh |
| 09:07.10 | ezak_ | need to cvsup/buildworld i think |
| 09:14.55 | tmzt | ali1234: thanks |
| 09:15.12 | tmzt | it's not likely to be on the livecd though |
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| 09:15.54 | tmzt | ali1234: that would be the other channel |
| 09:16.24 | tmzt | ali1234: ok, BruteFrce is here |
| 09:17.33 | ali1234 | ok you dont need to change anything in the userspace because rootfs == rootfs no matter if it's in ram on squashfs or on sd as ext2 |
| 09:18.06 | tmzt | yeah, but it was initrd before so linux wants to boot /linuxrc, we just need /sbin/init |
| 09:18.20 | tmzt | I think he can rename it or just init=/linuxrc |
| 09:18.28 | ali1234 | tmzt: it does not matter. do not rename anything |
| 09:18.32 | tmzt | ok |
| 09:20.13 | tmzt | we don't have a delay though |
| 09:20.35 | ali1234 | tmzt: the way to do it is: cd /media/sdcard; sudo unsquashfs -f -d . ~/gizard/initrd |
| 09:20.38 | ali1234 | delay? |
| 09:21.08 | tmzt | have you been able to run from sd card then? |
| 09:21.16 | ali1234 | yes i do it all the time with eol |
| 09:21.27 | ali1234 | you may run into the sd issue if you are using haret |
| 09:21.44 | tmzt | eol must init the card or something |
| 09:22.04 | ali1234 | yes it does |
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| 09:24.21 | NetRipper | cr2_, i tried forcing mmc eject status to 0, but now it gives: mmc0: command timeout and four memory addresses |
| 09:24.41 | NetRipper | cr2_, so it requires more work than simply hacking gpio for mmc status |
| 09:24.41 | NetRipper | ;) |
| 09:25.49 | NetRipper | cr2_, do have a shell now though, using vogue android initrd... i can type the '~', '1' and '4' characters :p |
| 09:30.05 | sir0x_ | tmzt: is haret still running when the kernel is booting ? i thought it gives the hole control of the device to the kernel |
| 09:30.53 | tmzt | haret stops interrupts and jumps to a particular memory address |
| 09:30.59 | tmzt | how exactly I don't know |
| 09:31.48 | tmzt | szsoftware for watching registers, memory and so on |
| 09:32.08 | tmzt | I thought you meant haret since that is what it does |
| 09:32.57 | sir0x_ | oh ok you mean bevore booting the kernel, i meant while booting |
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| 09:41.37 | BabelO_ | ali1234: for me sd card works from haret or eol :) |
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| 09:50.58 | ali1234 | BabelO_: for me too... but with haret, SD card has to be disabled in WM before you boot, otherwise it gets into an unknown state |
| 09:51.31 | BabelO_ | ali1234: not for me, i send the correct init to sdcard and it is ok |
| 09:52.22 | ali1234 | BabelO_: i guess that's the next thing for me to look at then |
| 09:52.53 | BabelO_ | ali1234: you use hciattact -S file.bts /dev/ttySx 921600 texas ? |
| 09:53.22 | ali1234 | BabelO_: to make it work i used: hciattach /dev/ttyS0 texas 115200 |
| 09:53.40 | ali1234 | BabelO_: i tried both the bts file from your image but they didnt work |
| 09:53.58 | ali1234 | going to try to get mine from WM later... |
| 09:54.05 | ali1234 | cleaning the house atm |
| 09:55.34 | cr2_ | NetRipper: you should adjust the gpio pins |
| 09:56.01 | cr2_ | NetRipper: for the keybaord. |
| 09:56.33 | cr2_ | NetRipper: sorry, keypad, not the keyboard. there are 3 input devices actually. |
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| 10:05.39 | BruteFrce | whats the fastest proc in a phone right now? |
| 10:05.50 | BruteFrce | msm7200? |
| 10:06.14 | tmzt | probably |
| 10:07.10 | BruteFrce | and the dream has a msm7200 right |
| 10:07.30 | tmzt | 7201a |
| 10:08.03 | BruteFrce | oh slower? |
| 10:08.26 | tmzt | newer, don't know if it's faster |
| 10:08.47 | tmzt | might be the same core on the arm11 side |
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| 10:10.34 | cr2_ | 7200A and 7201A should be identical. it's just some us-patent weirdness |
| 10:11.03 | BruteFrce | oh |
| 10:12.13 | BruteFrce | geez the dream is goin for 800 usd on ebay |
| 10:12.23 | swetland | silly |
| 10:12.49 | BruteFrce | thats my only route to get one |
| 10:13.26 | BruteFrce | aside from using a brick at 3am at the tmob store |
| 10:14.36 | ezak | [kaze@hydric ~/mydroid]$ repo init -u git://android.git.kernel.org/platform/manifest.git |
| 10:14.37 | ezak | fatal: git 1.5.4 or later required |
| 10:14.42 | ezak | bleh :( |
| 10:16.54 | sir0x | is the usb-port on the bottom a real usb-port ? than we can put in a real keyboard in this slot ? |
| 10:17.40 | BruteFrce | its ext usb |
| 10:18.05 | BruteFrce | but im sure you could hacl it to take a keyboard in linux |
| 10:18.24 | BruteFrce | bluetooth keyboard would probably be easier |
| 10:18.25 | ALoGeNo | lo all |
| 10:18.56 | ALoGeNo | tmzt are you here? |
| 10:19.22 | sir0x | ext usb ? |
| 10:19.40 | ALoGeNo | some one knows poky? |
| 10:20.10 | par | its so funny... you know, in atlantic city an htc phone running htclinux is called a mafia phone or a "mob" phone lol |
| 10:20.16 | tmzt | I'm here, what do you mean by poky |
| 10:20.18 | cr2_ | swetland: do you support cdc_ether for usb on g1 ? |
| 10:20.26 | BruteFrce | its htcs proprietery port |
| 10:20.50 | tmzt | poky, I remember killing xtscal by mounting it loopback, that's all |
| 10:21.03 | swetland | cr2: it's not in the build |
| 10:21.06 | ALoGeNo | i has been boot poky in htc universal.., this proyect have 2.6.23 kernel more updated than 2.6.21hh20 (i guess) |
| 10:21.18 | swetland | we do have a usb_function ethernet driver using the simplified usb ethernet protocol in the tree |
| 10:21.27 | swetland | and I have some scripts around somewhere to get the network setup |
| 10:21.32 | swetland | but it's not quite ready for prime time |
| 10:21.34 | tmzt | yeah, intel took care of there little arm problem :) |
| 10:21.39 | ALoGeNo | but im booting with 2.6.21hh20 becose the zImage prebuild for uni dont work what is the problem? |
| 10:21.43 | sir0x | BruteFrce : mhm , but as you said bluetooth should probably be easier :) |
| 10:21.47 | cr2_ | swetland: ok. |
| 10:22.21 | cr2_ | swetland: the usb vendor id is not in the /usr/share/usb.ids |
| 10:22.29 | ALoGeNo | why uni dont boot with zimage.bin? |
| 10:22.38 | swetland | I have no idea what /usr/share/usb.ids is |
| 10:22.41 | BruteFrce | ya i think you can get a bluetooth kb for pretty cheap nowadays |
| 10:22.55 | ALoGeNo | i must compile new one kernel with poky kernel soruce or what? |
| 10:24.15 | tmzt | you have poky kernel for universal? |
| 10:24.51 | ALoGeNo | YEAH! |
| 10:25.01 | ALoGeNo | but dont boot :(( |
| 10:25.12 | sir0x | BruteFrce: yes and you don't have to be worried about the plug |
| 10:25.31 | ALoGeNo | take a look.. http://pokylinux.org/releases/pinky-3.1/zImage-2.6.23-pinky-3.1-htcuniversal.bin |
| 10:25.47 | ALoGeNo | http://pokylinux.org/releases/pinky-3.1/poky-image-sato-htcuniversal-pinky-3.1.rootfs.tar.gz |
| 10:25.50 | BruteFrce | anyone know why control and the keyboard arrows wont perform there functions no matter what keys you map them to, and showkey reports the proper keycodes |
| 10:25.54 | ALoGeNo | the rootfs work like a charm.. |
| 10:26.03 | ALoGeNo | but with 21hh20 kernel.. |
| 10:26.13 | ALoGeNo | not with prebuild 2.6.23 :/ |
| 10:26.19 | tmzt | BruteFrce: can you get loadkeys in the rootfs? |
| 10:26.31 | tmzt | BruteFrce: we can just make a keymap if you the keycodes |
| 10:26.34 | ezak | [kaze@hydric ~/mydroid]$ repo init -u git://android.git.kernel.org/platform/manifest.git |
| 10:26.34 | ezak | fatal: git 1.5.4 or later required |
| 10:26.40 | ezak | sorry ... |
| 10:26.48 | BruteFrce | tmzt huh? |
| 10:27.09 | tmzt | a program, loadkeys, to load a keymap while running linux |
| 10:27.14 | BruteFrce | we have tried mapping them to every key gpio and omap keypad |
| 10:27.18 | tmzt | you still have linux pc? |
| 10:27.32 | BruteFrce | no penguinz does though |
| 10:27.47 | tmzt | if showkey gives you a keycode then userspace sees them |
| 10:27.52 | BruteFrce | i dont think we can fit anything else in our userspace |
| 10:27.57 | tmzt | can you run dumpkey |
| 10:28.11 | tmzt | can you run dumpkeys |
| 10:28.18 | BruteFrce | ya there being seen its just thise four keys wont function |
| 10:28.33 | tmzt | not showkey, dumpkeys to dump the current keymap |
| 10:28.37 | BruteFrce | i can if its in the initrd |
| 10:29.29 | BruteFrce | but showkeys asnt even in the userspace i doubt dumpkeys will be |
| 10:29.36 | ALoGeNo | tmzt if the kernel zImage-2.6.23-pinky-3.1-htcuniversal.bin dont boot why can be the problem (rootdelay maybe?) |
| 10:31.03 | tmzt | it just freezes after haret? |
| 10:31.32 | ALoGeNo | yep after the tiny letters of the beggining.. |
| 10:32.24 | ALoGeNo | when in normal way it rotate the screen and boot the kernel.. |
| 10:32.44 | ALoGeNo | i cant see kernel panic or so |
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| 10:36.33 | BruteFrce | is there any htc device with a fully working user made linux kernel? |
| 10:37.06 | BruteFrce | xserve calls net |
| 10:37.10 | BruteFrce | sms |
| 10:37.19 | BruteFrce | the whol shabang |
| 10:38.17 | par | hmm i don't remember about sms |
| 10:38.36 | par | but i'd say universal, blueangel, are the most complete with those things... |
| 10:39.05 | tmzt | if fso would work |
| 10:39.23 | tmzt | don't mean fso-image, just fso and zhone |
| 10:39.23 | par | under gpe the phone no mms support though i think just normal sms |
| 10:39.49 | tmzt | ALoGeNo: debugging a zImage is not easy |
| 10:39.57 | BruteFrce | wow |
| 10:40.08 | tmzt | ALoGeNo: unless mtype is different in their's |
| 10:40.36 | ALoGeNo | oh sorry, i just was think that this kernel running becose is prebuild for uni :P |
| 10:40.40 | tmzt | ALoGeNo: if you can get the poky source, it might make moving to 2.6.26 a lot easier though |
| 10:41.00 | ALoGeNo | hum.. |
| 10:41.10 | BruteFrce | or use an arm emulator and run it on a comp and debug |
| 10:41.26 | ALoGeNo | i dunno enought stuff i think :/ |
| 10:42.14 | ALoGeNo | tmzt this guys have git repo or so? |
| 10:47.35 | tmzt | I don't know, I think intel bought them a month ago |
| 10:47.47 | tmzt | before that it was pretty static |
| 10:48.27 | ALoGeNo | im reading that the mtype is the same here.. |
| 10:48.29 | ALoGeNo | 855 |
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| 10:59.27 | tmzt | you asked about n95, or was that BruteFrce |
| 10:59.57 | tmzt | there is something on http://and2symb.blogspot.com but I don't know what PeaZip is |
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| 11:12.34 | szsoftware | kaze: sir0x you adressed me regarding diamond, android, or something else. Have just read the logs.. |
| 11:13.39 | szsoftware | ohh, here is a lot of trouble, very nice trouble, in this channel these days :-) |
| 11:13.54 | tmzt | trouble? |
| 11:19.16 | szsoftware | tmzt: activity |
| 11:34.19 | ali1234 | BabelO_: my bts is the same version as yours |
| 11:35.52 | ali1234 | BabelO_: but it only works at speed 115200 |
| 11:36.05 | ali1234 | wether i load the bts or not |
| 11:43.48 | BabelO_ | ali1234: you need a patched version of hciattach for upper speed |
| 11:53.10 | tmzt | nothing like #android, some one said they were discussing kernels |
| 11:53.19 | tmzt | szsoftware: |
| 11:57.10 | tmzt | I didn't mean go there, sorry |
| 11:57.32 | szsoftware | tmzt: oh, what a huge users list in #android |
| 11:58.05 | tmzt | I mean someone said they were discussing kernels so I went there, and it was a lot of fun a little while ago |
| 11:59.23 | NetRipper | cr2_, we want to have keyboard, not keypad |
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| 12:05.49 | cr2_ | NetRipper: it will need a separate i2c driver |
| 12:06.05 | ali1234 | BabelO: i'm using the one from your qtopia image |
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| 12:15.02 | ali1234 | Babel1: i think you are using the gpios incorrectly in the bt driver. i suspect gpio 40-43 are supposed to be inputs not outputs, and you are meant to wait for those to tell when the chip is ready, rather that just doing a long wait... |
| 12:16.04 | tmzt | cr2_: any idea why no rxd would be assigned to a pin with alt function 3 on pxa27x? |
| 12:16.08 | tmzt | ssp3 block |
| 12:16.11 | tmzt | ssp1 blcok |
| 12:18.30 | Babel1 | ali1234: agree for the long wait, for gpio input / output, don't remember but i remember i check high speed and it works for me |
| 12:19.02 | Babel1 | ali1234: maybe i did not commit all the code, i'll check this evening |
| 12:21.09 | ali1234 | Babel1: i'm not worried about high speed for now, i'm happy it just works... but i was able to have the driver fully functional with only 1 gpio for on/off, and the BT responds only when it is on. also in my traces the 40-43 were always inputs not outputs, and basically they were put into input mode at exactly the same time as the power gpio was turned on, and then the inputs changed a few ms later |
| 12:21.45 | ali1234 | Babel1: i kind of suspected this since i started tracing but there was no way i could check it until now |
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| 12:29.41 | tmzt | szsoftware: what's the permissions thing? |
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| 12:33.36 | ALoGeNo | some one with universal to test the 2.6.23 kernel from poky? |
| 12:34.19 | tmzt | cr2_: are there different boards/lcds on uni? |
| 12:34.33 | tmzt | cr2_: I'm going to redo that last question, sorry |
| 12:34.51 | tmzt | cr2_: after I read the log from WyrM |
| 12:43.26 | ALoGeNo | tmzt i have good news :) |
| 12:43.52 | ALoGeNo | i have one new android image fro the uni that probably works :) |
| 12:44.14 | NetRipper | cr2_, ok, do you know if its possible to have a full terminal over usb-serial? (i.e. not only output, but also sending shell commandS?) |
| 12:44.27 | ALoGeNo | is a strage mix of poky and android |
| 12:44.36 | ALoGeNo | is for Zaurus SL-C3x00 |
| 12:45.12 | ALoGeNo | it boot poky at start but if i can deactivate later can try to run android :) |
| 12:45.41 | ALoGeNo | deactivate poky xserver i mean |
| 12:47.33 | tmzt | NetRipper: add a getty in /etc/inittab |
| 12:48.11 | tmzt | NetRipper: console=/dev/gadget** whatever it is |
| 12:49.22 | tmzt | ALoGeNo: I thought you said universal, it doesn't have scoop so zaurus kernel will almost certainly not work even with the right mtype |
| 12:50.03 | ALoGeNo | nono im still using the 21hh20 to boot that things.. |
| 12:50.19 | ALoGeNo | im only using the rootfs of Zaurus SL-C3x00 |
| 12:50.23 | tmzt | oh, ok |
| 12:50.30 | ALoGeNo | and it boots propelly |
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| 12:51.06 | ALoGeNo | but is poky and android mixed or something and boot poky, you know how to do that no boot poky and boot in the console? |
| 12:51.23 | tmzt | init=/bin/sh ? |
| 12:51.35 | ALoGeNo | OH!! sure.. hehe.. |
| 12:51.36 | tmzt | wait, init=/system/bin/sh |
| 12:51.39 | ALoGeNo | tnx :D |
| 12:52.25 | tmzt | the first on poky, the second for android but not sure it works |
| 12:54.01 | ALoGeNo | yeah.. |
| 12:54.10 | ALoGeNo | cross the fingers.. |
| 13:03.40 | ali1234 | are sandisk memory cards really as bad as i keep hearing? |
| 13:05.29 | szsoftware | ali1234: have no prbs with them |
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| 13:06.37 | ali1234 | i have two and had no problems.. but i heard they are slow |
| 13:10.02 | szsoftware | ali1234: they have different classes |
| 13:10.17 | szsoftware | class 2 is slow, class 4 is fast(er) |
| 13:10.27 | ali1234 | also it seems there are fake ones knocking around ebay |
| 13:11.12 | szsoftware | ali1234: I read about this, when I was wondering about their ID, which seems only readable from wm |
| 13:11.43 | ali1234 | szsoftware: you mean the ID that's used for making a bootable SD? |
| 13:12.36 | szsoftware | ali1234: I mean just the ID, which some programs use to register only for that one ID |
| 13:12.41 | ali1234 | it can be read from /sys/class/mmc_host/mmc0/mmc0*/cid on linux - but not with USB readers |
| 13:12.45 | szsoftware | ali1234: ID/sdcard |
| 13:12.57 | szsoftware | ali1234: like garmin mobile XT |
| 13:13.15 | ali1234 | yeah the unique id of the card |
| 13:14.11 | ali1234 | that ID, combined witha special HTC password, is used to sign executables to make a bootable diagnostic SD card |
| 13:14.11 | szsoftware | ali1234: so the ID and OR product/vendor code cannot be changed, and so fakes on Ebay are easyly discovered |
| 13:14.18 | szsoftware | ali1234: thats what I read |
| 13:14.41 | szsoftware | ali1234: ah, that are interesting informations |
| 13:14.48 | ali1234 | hmm yeah... well the fakes are usually pretty obvious anyway since they tend to stop working when you go past 25% usage :/ |
| 13:16.36 | szsoftware | ali1234: someone said, that could be faulty cards, either without ID (not "imprinted" yet) or just faulty, which went in the wrong distribution channel |
| 13:17.30 | szsoftware | ali1234: I prefer to look at ebay only for prices, then I visit a normal online-store. Their prices are mostly equal |
| 13:17.44 | ali1234 | szsoftware: more likely they went to be "destroyed" and ended up getting sold to some shady characters when nobody was looking... |
| 13:18.02 | szsoftware | ali1234: yeah that's what I mean |
| 13:18.15 | ali1234 | szsoftware: but the reason i ask is my local supermarket has a sandisk for cheap, which allows me to avoid all that |
| 13:18.41 | szsoftware | ali1234: local supermarkets are preferable :-) |
| 13:19.01 | szsoftware | szsoftware: so you can give it back easyly, when its faulty or so |
| 13:20.02 | szsoftware | guys, who did the android build, using their "ABS" ? |
| 13:20.28 | ali1234 | what's an ABS? |
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| 13:27.49 | szsoftware | I just call the Android Build System ABS, since there seems not to be a fancy name |
| 13:28.17 | szsoftware | hi dante__ |
| 13:32.51 | szsoftware | swetland: SanMehat around ? |
| 13:33.43 | ezak | szsoftware you call abs the build system described @ http://source.android.com/download ? |
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| 13:37.48 | szsoftware | ezak: yes, that one |
| 13:38.03 | ezak | ok :) |
| 13:39.02 | szsoftware | ezak: maybe we should use the name from that link: the android repo, or short repo. |
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| 13:54.20 | par | yaay repo |
| 13:57.43 | ezak | damn i dont have enough free space on that box :( |
| 14:01.33 | par | wow, pH5 all but disappeared |
| 14:03.38 | szsoftware | ezak: it's hard, but you have to delete some p**n :-) |
| 14:04.25 | szsoftware | ezak: you need the space of one or two dvd's |
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| 14:13.28 | ezak | szsoftware heh no porn on this server only work stuff :) |
| 14:14.05 | szsoftware | ezak: ah yeah, I remember ezak/kaze difference :-) |
| 14:14.13 | ezak | :) |
| 14:20.09 | par | i'm still confused.. i've not been around for a while.. |
| 14:20.35 | par | so xanadux of course came together with everyone else when angstrom was put together |
| 14:20.59 | par | now everything is developed as part of the angstrom distribution |
| 14:21.47 | par | but tmzt was saying something about going away from HH.. to mainlina kernel? |
| 14:21.52 | par | mainline |
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| 14:22.57 | NetRipper | tmzt, thanks i'll try that... and on the other side of the link, what linux app can i use to communicate with a terminal through a tty? |
| 14:23.20 | fumanchu182 | NetRipper: I see you guys got past the proc_comm issue last night. |
| 14:23.34 | NetRipper | fumanchu182, well, we just disabled the driver |
| 14:24.00 | fumanchu182 | Ah I gave you guys a Kernel flat to turn on, guess it didn't work? |
| 14:25.15 | par | netripper, do you have cu? |
| 14:26.21 | par | i don't know if there is a minicom ipkg |
| 14:26.26 | par | i know there is a cu one |
| 14:31.57 | NetRipper | par, i can probably install it |
| 14:31.59 | NetRipper | ok |
| 14:32.03 | NetRipper | cu and minicom |
| 14:33.03 | NetRipper | fumanchu182, a kernel flat? |
| 14:33.46 | fumanchu182 | sorry |
| 14:33.47 | fumanchu182 | mean flag |
| 14:33.49 | fumanchu182 | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2812009&postcount=354 |
| 14:34.46 | NetRipper | fumanchu182, that flag is not available in my .config |
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| 14:49.38 | NetRipper | fumanchu182, what kernel do you use where the flag is available |
| 14:51.06 | fumanchu182 | Linux-MSM 2.6.24 |
| 14:51.10 | fumanchu182 | you can get it from git |
| 14:51.45 | par | the git repo for is it is.. at android? |
| 14:52.07 | fumanchu182 | it is in the repository |
| 14:52.09 | fumanchu182 | i forgot where |
| 14:52.11 | fumanchu182 | lemme check |
| 14:52.22 | szsoftware | what are you talking about? |
| 14:52.46 | par | the repo where the linux-MSM kernel is that he's running |
| 14:53.24 | fumanchu182 | http://git.android.com/?p=linux-msm.git |
| 14:53.29 | szsoftware | he said what about 2.6.24 ? |
| 14:54.00 | szsoftware | fumanchu182: did you switched and checkout the right branch? |
| 14:55.00 | par | ah yesh, make sense that its at android |
| 14:57.05 | par | i only have htc pxa based phones so... i'm stuck in the angstrom repo |
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| 14:57.38 | szsoftware | dcordes: hi |
| 14:57.48 | dcordes | szsoftware, hi there |
| 14:59.06 | dcordes | szsoftware, so how's polaris? |
| 15:01.30 | szsoftware | dcordes: it's tired. :-) |
| 15:02.03 | szsoftware | dcordes: now I have the android built and figure out, how to have a good rootfs |
| 15:02.55 | dcordes | did you find out how to make ti? |
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| 15:04.27 | szsoftware | dcordes: swetland said a lot about this. look in the log from today. he said, you can build it from its source directory, forget about the metadata |
| 15:04.53 | dcordes | ok very good |
| 15:04.55 | dcordes | will read |
| 15:05.00 | szsoftware | dcordes: but I ve made it through the mighty repo (that's my new term :-) ) |
| 15:05.12 | dcordes | how long? |
| 15:05.23 | szsoftware | dcordes: it took? |
| 15:05.27 | dcordes | yes |
| 15:05.38 | szsoftware | dcordes: whole night :-P |
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| 15:06.26 | szsoftware | dcordes: I dont understand that system/data stuff, they did ^^ |
| 15:06.42 | dcordes | x11-image is like 4 hours here. but at least the browser doesn't try to read my mind :) |
| 15:07.52 | szsoftware | dcordes: did you make progress with x11? |
| 15:09.01 | dcordes | no. ginge said yesterday he tried X from the linwizard project's ramdisk. he got a similar result where the screen was garbaged and split in half and so |
| 15:09.26 | SanMehat | X11? jesus |
| 15:09.27 | dcordes | but for him it did not freeze I think. ali1234 suggested it might be a wrong bit depth set in X |
| 15:10.00 | dcordes | SanMehat, yes it makes some problems with msm_fb |
| 15:10.36 | SanMehat | why would you ever *desire* to run x11 on a mobile device? :) |
| 15:11.23 | SanMehat | IIRC X11 was a rediculous memory pig.. at least what i remember from porting it to the netwinder |
| 15:11.26 | par | hi San |
| 15:11.30 | SanMehat | hey par man |
| 15:11.48 | par | how are you.. congrats by the way.. you're married now? |
| 15:11.57 | SanMehat | par: i'm great... not married yet.. next friday :) |
| 15:12.10 | par | wow! congrats bigtime |
| 15:12.10 | szsoftware | SanMehat: how do I create a rootfs from android build? Without ramdisk, everything in / ? And with right permissions? |
| 15:12.28 | dcordes | SanMehat, yes, still I like it. got any idea why it makes such problems with msm_fb ? |
| 15:12.43 | SanMehat | dcordes: no idea man. |
| 15:13.21 | dcordes | szsoftware, for the permission I guess copy/extract as # |
| 15:13.24 | SanMehat | szsoftware: i'm sorry. i don't understand the question... .. i think you want to see how the .img files are made... |
| 15:13.31 | szsoftware | SanMehat: i like it too, you can easyly export your screen in the linux way of doing it :-) |
| 15:13.35 | SanMehat | szsoftware: ugh. |
| 15:13.51 | SanMehat | but its such a huge pig to be running :| |
| 15:14.09 | dcordes | on the moko it works ok. the faster msm7x will run it smoothly |
| 15:14.27 | szsoftware | SanMehat: you can choose, e.g. if you need it for presentation or so |
| 15:14.27 | SanMehat | okedoke. |
| 15:14.31 | cr2_ | SanMehat: i was running x11+mosaic in 4MB ram and 25MHz cpu in 1995 (vga card). it was slow, but worked. why should i not run x11 on a 600MHz phone with 256MB ram ? |
| 15:14.33 | dcordes | especially when you have qvga only :(( |
| 15:14.43 | SanMehat | cr2_: i didnt say it wouldn't r un |
| 15:14.54 | dcordes | it will run fast ass |
| 15:14.54 | SanMehat | cr2_: i was questioning why you'd *want* to run it... |
| 15:15.00 | SanMehat | i guess i just don't like X11 |
| 15:15.05 | SanMehat | *shrug* its cool :) |
| 15:15.31 | szsoftware | SanMehat: yeah, what about that vms alpha format of the *.img? How to extract or mount? Are there the right permissions set in? |
| 15:15.32 | SanMehat | dcordes: ahhh thats true.. on qvga |
| 15:15.40 | SanMehat | szsoftware: i have no idea man, i dont do that part |
| 15:16.07 | cr2_ | SanMehat: to be honest i don't see any reason to run free software in a virtual machine. it wastes kWh's |
| 15:16.14 | dcordes | SanMehat, maybe also a reason for liking are the rare alternatives. if you don't count android which not really is one imho |
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| 15:17.05 | SanMehat | thats fair.. i'm not knocking your beliefs.. i just don't share them :) |
| 15:17.08 | dcordes | szsoftware, can't you pick different rootfs filetypes like in OE ? |
| 15:17.12 | cr2_ | lol |
| 15:17.31 | szsoftware | SanMehat: can you give me a hintto the person who's familar with the filesystem stuff? |
| 15:17.42 | cr2_ | SanMehat: it's unfair , you are paid for working on android :) |
| 15:18.04 | SanMehat | cr2_: sorry :) |
| 15:18.10 | par | hi cr2 |
| 15:18.42 | cr2_ | SanMehat: i mean the pure scientific side, as in unbiased opinion |
| 15:18.45 | szsoftware | dcordes: atm I only have a incomplete rootfs with additional ramdisk.img (cpio, gz), userdata.img, system.img (both vms alpha) |
| 15:18.58 | dcordes | szsoftware, let's just be lazy about X an wait for the msm7201a to try for us :P |
| 15:19.11 | szsoftware | dcordes: and there are al files owned and grouped by the user who does the build |
| 15:19.37 | dcordes | szsoftware, oh that's odd. but maybe on purpose? |
| 15:20.17 | szsoftware | dcordes: maybe I have to learn more about the repo.. |
| 15:21.19 | szsoftware | dcordes: out/target/product/generic/system.img: VMS Alpha executable |
| 15:21.29 | cr2_ | dcordes: there was a ramdisk with xserver. already in the hima/ba times |
| 15:21.29 | szsoftware | dcordes: do you know that format? |
| 15:22.18 | szsoftware | cr2_: you? |
| 15:22.47 | dcordes | cr2_, that's not a problem having a ramdisk with X. We tried several styles of OE images with X and also the gentoo one from linwizard. all show these problems |
| 15:23.27 | dcordes | szsoftware, the .img isn't that what's also used by dzo? look in his initscripts fromt he latest builds. there you can see how those files are handled |
| 15:23.57 | cr2_ | szsoftware: vms executable extension is .exe |
| 15:24.16 | dcordes | szsoftware, it is yaffs2 images |
| 15:24.33 | dcordes | maybe your /usr/bin/file detects it wrong |
| 15:25.49 | szsoftware | dcordes: thanks for the hint |
| 15:28.41 | ALoGeNo | hey one stupid question the android main exe is known as android or start? |
| 15:29.13 | ALoGeNo | or that have another name |
| 15:29.22 | ALoGeNo | ? |
| 15:29.23 | dcordes | ALoGeNo, lol what |
| 15:29.28 | ALoGeNo | xd |
| 15:29.43 | ALoGeNo | sorry my english man :) |
| 15:30.08 | ALoGeNo | yeah i mean the /sbin/fileofthehell |
| 15:30.09 | ALoGeNo | xd |
| 15:30.53 | ALoGeNo | i have two android from the taurus one and BA one..and in any tarball have one diferent name :/ |
| 15:31.23 | dcordes | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:31.33 | ALoGeNo | seriously? |
| 15:31.41 | dcordes | not sure what you look for |
| 15:31.53 | ALoGeNo | omg.. im more noob than i was think xd |
| 15:32.07 | ALoGeNo | sure that is.. |
| 15:32.27 | ALoGeNo | i mean in deabin we call startx or X or gnome-session.. |
| 15:32.39 | ALoGeNo | in android how call the X server? |
| 15:33.03 | ALoGeNo | it boots with init only one? |
| 15:33.15 | szsoftware | dcordes: how to mount yaffs images in linux (e.g. ubuntu) ? |
| 15:34.14 | szsoftware | ALoGeNo: there is no X in android |
| 15:34.20 | dcordes | yaffs2 is not in mainline so your kernel probably doesn't have it |
| 15:34.25 | szsoftware | ALoGeNo: init does the trick |
| 15:34.39 | dcordes | I think the kernel in my previous ubuntu install didn'T |
| 15:34.41 | szsoftware | dcordes: ok |
| 15:34.43 | ALoGeNo | :D thanks a lot guys |
| 15:36.41 | dcordes | szsoftware, ok read what swetland said so it's built like any other module |
| 15:37.07 | dcordes | szsoftware, got any idea how to make it built in, not module? |
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| 15:45.37 | szsoftware | dcordes: why not module? |
| 15:46.22 | szsoftware | dcordes: it doesn't seem to be yaffs^^. JUst compiled and modprobed yaffs2.ko |
| 15:46.27 | dcordes | beacuse it's easier to test changes with only the zImage |
| 15:46.32 | dcordes | oh sorry then |
| 15:46.59 | szsoftware | dcordes: no I dont know other than module |
| 15:47.55 | szsoftware | dcordes: can't you write little recipe for oe? Maybe just for copying the files you need |
| 15:47.57 | dcordes | I will just try putting it in the tree and stating it would be a tristate config |
| 15:48.33 | szsoftware | dcordes: ah sorry, mixed rootfs/kernel image |
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| 15:53.46 | dcordes | szsoftware, I think the driver doesn't like built in or I'm missing something |
| 15:54.48 | szsoftware | dcordes: :-( |
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| 17:03.16 | imfloflo | hey guys any progress in polaris part ? only kaiser? |
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| 17:10.24 | imfloflo | hey dcordes any progress in polaris part ? only kaiser? |
| 17:14.01 | par | does the phone actually identify itself as polaris or as touch cruise |
| 17:16.20 | dcordes_ | imfloflo, polaris wifi=kaiser wifi so... |
| 17:16.55 | par | polaris is an msm based phone also? |
| 17:17.09 | dcordes_ | par, msm7200 it's basically kaiser without keyboard |
| 17:17.19 | par | oh ok |
| 17:17.48 | par | and the hardware id's itself as "polaris"? |
| 17:18.08 | par | i noticed they been changing the name a lot on it |
| 17:18.26 | dcordes_ | we could also write touch cruise or whatever in the boardfile. polaris is the htc codename |
| 17:18.33 | imfloflo | so i can test the lastest zip for kaiser |
| 17:18.45 | par | no i'm not talking about the boardfile |
| 17:18.52 | dcordes_ | par, yes as for all the other htcs there are plenty of aliases |
| 17:18.59 | dcordes_ | par, wince? |
| 17:19.03 | par | yes |
| 17:19.10 | dcordes_ | idk |
| 17:19.31 | par | yeah with all the aliases it gets crazy |
| 17:19.47 | par | they are just mass producing tons of different models nowadays |
| 17:20.43 | imfloflo | dcordes http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/ lastest release is working on kaiser an polaris ? |
| 17:21.48 | dcordes_ | I can try later if you like |
| 17:21.51 | dcordes_ | brb |
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| 17:22.14 | imfloflo | yes why not :) |
| 17:22.19 | imfloflo | i can help |
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| 17:29.37 | par | heh i have to pick up some newer phones |
| 17:32.09 | par | what are they calling the new msm distribution |
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| 17:40.14 | dcordes_ | par, msm7201A or what do you mean? |
| 17:42.41 | par | oh hahahah now i see what tmzt was talking about |
| 17:42.48 | par | FOR INSTANCE: |
| 17:42.51 | par | 2008-07-05 |
| 17:43.02 | par | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:43.08 | par | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:43.24 | par | yeah, that would get ya away from HH |
| 17:43.31 | par | lol |
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| 17:44.59 | par | dcordes_: umm simply forget my question at that point :) |
| 17:45.22 | NetRipper | anybody know the brand and type of USB device in raphael? |
| 17:45.25 | NetRipper | and/or diamond |
| 17:45.48 | dcordes_ | d00d |
| 17:46.04 | NetRipper | well, yea |
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| 17:46.28 | dcordes_ | NetRipper, didn't get shop? |
| 17:46.34 | dcordes_ | s/shop/shot/ |
| 17:47.43 | NetRipper | dcordes_, i concealed it by being hyperactive on the fact i could boot linux |
| 17:47.43 | NetRipper | they left me alone after that |
| 17:47.43 | dcordes_ | lol |
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| 17:58.20 | szsoftware | imfloflo: dcordes_: booting android from rootfs (sd), but it keeps blinking the little green android :-( |
| 17:58.47 | imfloflo | with which release? |
| 17:58.58 | szsoftware | the latest |
| 17:59.05 | szsoftware | android-1.0-r1 |
| 17:59.17 | dcordes_ | szsoftware, you boot those yaffs2 loopfiles? |
| 18:00.09 | szsoftware | dcordes_: I put dzo's latest stuff together in one rootfs and doesn't use his mount script. |
| 18:00.55 | szsoftware | dcordes_: he put data and system in ext3/gzip but I'm using ext2 |
| 18:01.00 | dcordes_ | szsoftware, you use the rebase kernel? |
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| 18:01.25 | szsoftware | dcordes_: no use the 2.6.25 before googles opensource release |
| 18:01.47 | szsoftware | dcordes_: just was curiuos about android :-) |
| 18:02.08 | dcordes_ | maybe we miss some stuff in the kernel.. |
| 18:02.21 | dcordes_ | you could check up with the .config provided by dzo? |
| 18:02.38 | szsoftware | dcordes_: what I see so far is that the screen is slightly moved to far to the right side |
| 18:04.42 | imfloflo | so you success to boot 1.0 |
| 18:07.28 | dcordes_ | ginge, you around? I tried nand again without the offsets, still I only get all the data in one block and only hexdump can read it. |
| 18:07.36 | dcordes_ | ginge, I suspect we use a wrong block size |
| 18:09.10 | dcordes_ | lol, nackstscanner. |
| 18:09.47 | ali1234 | dcordes_: did you know that different regions of the nand can have different block sizes? |
| 18:09.48 | szsoftware | dcordes_: yeah I just heard about it in dlf |
| 18:09.48 | dcordes_ | comfortable you can get microwaved for free |
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| 18:10.15 | dcordes_ | ali1234, no that is interesting. the driver should autodetect that? |
| 18:10.17 | szsoftware | dcordes_: there is also a report in the zdf mediathek |
| 18:10.40 | imfloflo | szsoftware so you success to boot 1.0 |
| 18:10.40 | dcordes_ | the devices are nothing new. I've seen it in the harald welte blog |
| 18:10.51 | ali1234 | dcordes_: i don't know about writing a driver. but usually near the start there are a lot of smaller-than-normal blocks for writing short config information over and over |
| 18:11.20 | szsoftware | imfloflo: sorry not really, as I said, it stops at the little green android. but stops not really, it blinks further |
| 18:11.25 | ali1234 | dcordes_: there are a lot of pages scattered through the xda-devs wiki with nand memory sizes and block sizes etc |
| 18:12.06 | ali1234 | dcordes_: i had to go through them while trying to extract my radio rom |
| 18:12.36 | kaze | hi folks, im officially doomed |
| 18:12.40 | szsoftware | imfloflo: dcordes_ but for information, I do this android testing with (faulty) sd |
| 18:12.42 | kaze | [kaze@mono ~/mydroid]$ gmake |
| 18:12.49 | kaze | build/core/envsetup.mk:44: *** Unable to determine HOST_OS from uname -sm: FreeBSD amd64./configure Stop. |
| 18:12.56 | ALoGeNo | hey guys with BA new image android for vogue http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/android-23-10-08.zip |
| 18:13.05 | ali1234 | kaze: trying to build on BSD? lol |
| 18:13.14 | kaze | yup |
| 18:13.19 | kaze | bsd amd64 |
| 18:13.26 | kaze | even dumber |
| 18:14.03 | dcordes_ | kaze, maybe it would be most hassle free to use a sleek distro with qemu |
| 18:14.09 | kaze | yup |
| 18:14.21 | kaze | or ill setup ubuntu on usb disk |
| 18:14.35 | kaze | but i had my bsds |
| 18:14.40 | kaze | so i gave it a try |
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| 18:14.53 | dcordes_ | yea that works comfortable with extlinux. right now I'm using debian lenny on usb pen disk |
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| 18:14.58 | kaze | dlding hardy now |
| 18:15.29 | dcordes_ | you can just put the rootfs on the device's / |
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| 18:20.44 | kaze | dcordes in your new kernel screen off power off does not work |
| 18:22.18 | NetRipper | lol i'm missing something.... i can't get my usb link back |
| 18:22.20 | NetRipper | on my raphael |
| 18:22.41 | dcordes_ | NetRipper, uhm in wince? |
| 18:23.21 | NetRipper | dcordes_, linux |
| 18:23.31 | NetRipper | dcordes_, yesterday i had the device in my lsusb list |
| 18:23.43 | NetRipper | i fucked around a bit with enabling/disabling various usb settings |
| 18:23.46 | NetRipper | now i cant get it back |
| 18:23.47 | NetRipper | :p |
| 18:24.08 | dcordes_ | NetRipper, maybe the usb controller in your raphael is left in a different state by wince than it did yesterday |
| 18:24.17 | dcordes_ | try plugging usb in in wince, then boot |
| 18:24.27 | NetRipper | i always boot the same way |
| 18:24.35 | NetRipper | with activesync |
| 18:25.37 | dcordes_ | k |
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| 18:26.57 | dcordes_ | http://laforge.gnumonks.org/weblog/2008/10/23/#20081023-android |
| 18:27.58 | dcordes_ | szsoftware, http://laforge.gnumonks.org/weblog/2008/03/27/#20080327-active_mm_wave_screening_schiphol <- nacktscanner |
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| 18:29.51 | NetRipper | lol |
| 18:30.03 | NetRipper | wish i worked as security guy there |
| 18:30.18 | NetRipper | though |
| 18:30.38 | NetRipper | just think about guys, grannies and trans's coming by |
| 18:30.43 | dcordes_ | so you can see grumpy old cock or get microwaved for free? |
| 18:30.50 | NetRipper | :s |
| 18:30.55 | dcordes_ | lol |
| 18:31.21 | NetRipper | i'll just download the good stuff when they capture it |
| 18:31.21 | NetRipper | ;) |
| 18:31.27 | NetRipper | uh |
| 18:31.28 | NetRipper | i mean |
| 18:31.34 | NetRipper | a thing like that! a disgrace! |
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| 18:33.05 | cr2_ | dcordes_: let's wait for the g1 appsbl. |
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| 18:33.34 | cr2_ | btw, is it possible to access /dev/mem on g1 ? |
| 18:37.54 | dcordes_ | shrugs |
| 18:38.05 | dcordes_ | who has one? |
| 18:38.09 | ali1234 | ~seen butonic |
| 18:38.12 | apt | ali1234: i haven't seen 'butonic' |
| 18:38.42 | dcordes_ | cr2_, I tried to build tiwlan1251 as built in but it doesn't seem to work |
| 18:39.11 | cr2_ | dcordes_: where does one define the power/irq pins ? |
| 18:39.24 | cr2_ | dcordes_: Dream_GPIO wiki page ? |
| 18:39.45 | dcordes_ | go trout |
| 18:39.50 | cr2_ | otherwise it's the same endless discussion |
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| 18:40.07 | cr2_ | dcordes_: i mean for wifi |
| 18:40.15 | cr2_ | all the rest should go into wiki |
| 18:40.39 | dcordes_ | I have seen some wifi gpio in the trout kernel I think |
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| 18:40.42 | cr2_ | imho, we need to document the g1 in the same way as other htc phones |
| 18:40.48 | dcordes_ | yes true |
| 18:41.03 | dcordes_ | but call it trout in the wiki, because that's all the machine name in linux |
| 18:41.51 | dcordes_ | on the other hand dream is the conventional name in xda |
| 18:43.10 | cr2_ | i'll keep dream, and the docs structure. |
| 18:43.19 | cr2_ | research->memorymap,gpio,etc. |
| 18:43.23 | dcordes_ | cr2_, I copied the sta_dk_4_0_4_32 dir to drivers/net/wireless/tiwlan1251 |
| 18:43.37 | NetRipper | let's port windows mobile to htc dream! |
| 18:43.37 | NetRipper | :p |
| 18:43.48 | dcordes_ | and added in the Makefile "obj-$(CONFIG_TIWLAN)+= tiwlan1251" |
| 18:43.54 | cr2_ | NetRipper: let's port linux to htc dream :D |
| 18:43.59 | dcordes_ | lol |
| 18:44.02 | NetRipper | lo |
| 18:44.03 | NetRipper | l |
| 18:44.05 | NetRipper | no |
| 18:44.07 | NetRipper | raphael first |
| 18:44.10 | NetRipper | >:| |
| 18:44.11 | NetRipper | ;) |
| 18:44.12 | cr2_ | :) |
| 18:44.15 | szsoftwa1e | dcordes_: after applying your patch to 2.6.25-msm-htc and doing make htcpolaris_defconfig, there is ARM system type MSM7x00A. Is this correct? Because we have no A |
| 18:44.50 | dcordes_ | szsoftwa1e, didn't touch it, maybe ginge put it on accident |
| 18:45.26 | cr2_ | and we need to document vogue too |
| 18:45.57 | dcordes_ | cr2_, I put the vogue research wiki page which points to titan memory map and titan gpio iirc |
| 18:45.58 | szsoftware_ | dcordes_: don't understand |
| 18:46.03 | cr2_ | a lot of code looks magic binary hacks there. |
| 18:46.12 | dcordes_ | szsoftware, I did not modify that code. |
| 18:46.25 | dcordes_ | szsoftware, is it different in the tarball tree? |
| 18:47.29 | dcordes_ | cr2_, http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=VogueMemoryMap this, not research. |
| 18:49.34 | szsoftware_ | dcordes_: nevermind. Indeed, its not relevant |
| 18:49.35 | NetRipper | "Seriously, I can build an Android ARM kernel but cannot test it on a Touch Diamond. If someone wants to give me a .config (or some changes from the stock Android kernel), I'll be happy to build a kernel if someone with a Touch Diamond wants to test it." |
| 18:50.06 | NetRipper | no comments |
| 18:50.18 | dcordes_ | good old android kernel |
| 18:51.21 | szsoftware_ | dcordes_: MSM_7X00SMD is our smd-driver? so we need to select? |
| 18:51.43 | dcordes_ | yep |
| 18:51.58 | dcordes_ | szsoftware, I updated the htckaiser_defconfig to work with the trout |
| 18:52.17 | cr2_ | dcordes_: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=DreamGPIO |
| 18:52.21 | dcordes_ | ... kernel tree. so you might use that as a base for polaris configuration |
| 18:52.21 | cr2_ | dcordes_: just a start |
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| 18:53.29 | cr2_ | dcordes_: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=DreamResearch |
| 18:53.59 | dcordes_ | nice |
| 18:54.12 | szsoftware_ | dcordes_: ok, thanks |
| 18:54.19 | cr2_ | the alt is obfuscated, so it's not easy to set it directly |
| 18:55.02 | cr2_ | but to find it out one needs to dump the g1 amss |
| 18:55.37 | cr2_ | documenting amss is an interesting project in itself |
| 18:57.26 | szsoftware_ | dcordes_: again, we need MSM_KAISERSMD AND MSM_7X00SMD ? Last is not selected by htckaiser_defconfig |
| 18:58.03 | dcordes_ | it it's not select, you don't need it. kaiser smd code is built by KAISER_SMD |
| 18:58.36 | dcordes_ | htckaiser_defconfig in my patch makes phone work for kaiser. |
| 19:01.18 | szsoftware_ | dcordes_: kaiserSMD appear only when selecting phone kaiser, not when phone polaris. do I have to check dependencies? |
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| 19:02.49 | dcordes_ | szsoftware_, it is because the polaris stuff which is found in the htc-msm git and in the tarball where I readded it misses in the trout-tree patch |
| 19:06.29 | cr2_ | hmm. a mess |
| 19:09.58 | szsoftware_ | dcordes_: I will try, doing a diff from tarball to android-msm-htc_with-your-patches and sort the pola stuff out |
| 19:10.54 | dcordes_ | szsoftware_, ok. the tarball has lots of garbage though |
| 19:14.02 | szsoftware_ | dcordes_: have I another choiceà |
| 19:14.05 | szsoftware_ | dcordes_: ? |
| 19:14.52 | dcordes_ | maybe I have a an old diff with less garbage let me see |
| 19:15.17 | dcordes_ | git-diff-2.6.25-170908-polaris.diff looks good |
| 19:15.52 | szsoftware_ | dcordes_: will have a try |
| 19:16.03 | dcordes_ | http://linuxtogo.org/~lgorris/git-diff-2.6.25-170908-polaris.diff |
| 19:16.15 | dcordes_ | you could diff the diff |
| 19:16.36 | szsoftware_ | dcordes_: but I cant apply that and reloving hunks? I have to go through manually, no? |
| 19:16.54 | szsoftware_ | s/reloving/resolving/ |
| 19:17.25 | dcordes_ | I would rather compare the two patches and put it manually. it's not much |
| 19:17.35 | dcordes_ | I can do it |
| 19:18.00 | dcordes_ | but now trying a module kernel and ti module for kaiser |
| 19:18.25 | szsoftware_ | dcordes_: can't find that diff on your spece |
| 19:18.32 | szsoftware_ | s/spece/space/ |
| 19:19.11 | dcordes_ | szsoftware_, http://linuxtogo.org/~lgorris/git-diff-2.6.25-170908-polaris.diff |
| 19:19.15 | szsoftware_ | dcordes_: oh overread |
| 19:19.39 | dcordes_ | something went wrong. I must have accidently added a diff there |
| 19:19.53 | dcordes_ | 32000 lines |
| 19:20.38 | dcordes_ | +++ b/git-diff-2.6.25-170908.diff |
| 19:21.43 | szsoftware_ | dcordes_: so I have to wait? |
| 19:22.54 | dcordes_ | yea I will do it |
| 19:23.28 | szsoftware_ | dcordes_: :-( and :-) |
| 19:23.41 | dcordes_ | you could as well ignore or remove the patch patch |
| 19:24.06 | szsoftware_ | dcordes_: ? |
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| 19:33.38 | sir0x | NetRipper: are you there? you are writing the RaphaelLinux wiki on xda-developers ? |
| 19:34.52 | sir0x | ore anyone else who can edit the wiki ? i guas i found an mistake |
| 19:34.58 | sir0x | s/guas/guess |
| 19:38.32 | BruteFrce | i thought anyone could edit a wiki, thats why its a wiki? |
| 19:38.39 | sir0x | *gg* |
| 19:38.52 | dcordes_ | what is this file ./common/src/core/data_ctrl/Tx/MsduList.o ? |
| 19:39.21 | sir0x | ok but i don't no if i'm authorisised to change |
| 19:39.41 | sir0x | can you change ? |
| 19:39.51 | dcordes_ | you must register |
| 19:40.05 | dcordes_ | swetland, around? |
| 19:40.30 | NetRipper | sir0x, everyone can edit the wiki |
| 19:40.38 | NetRipper | sir0x, as long as you have an xda account |
| 19:41.12 | sir0x | yes i have ... oooook then i will change something ;) |
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| 19:45.14 | sir0x | uuh ?? i clickt on edit then there is a message "you must sign in to edit pages in this wiki" then i enter my username and pass, then cames the message "thank you for logging in, sir0x" but then i came back to the side with the message "you must sign..." |
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| 19:46.03 | dcordes_ | sir0x, maybe it wants your browser to eat a cookie? try selecting "stay logged in" |
| 19:46.43 | sir0x | dcoredes : thx that's it ... freaky |
| 19:47.57 | sir0x | so i've changed the brach in which the kernel-diamond is from "msm-android-htc-2.6.25" to "android-msm-htc-2.6.25" |
| 19:48.05 | sir0x | on the RaphaelLinux |
| 19:48.39 | NetRipper | ah ok |
| 19:52.00 | sir0x | which toolchain do you use to compile the android-msm-htc-2.6.2 kernel ? |
| 19:52.48 | NetRipper | arm-2008q3-39-arm-none-eabi-i686-pc-linux-gnu.tar.bz2 |
| 19:53.45 | diogene31 | is away: Earning his pitance ... |
| 19:54.42 | cr2_ | sir0x: do you have a diamond ? |
| 19:55.05 | sir0x | cr2_ : yes |
| 19:56.26 | cr2_ | ok. we will need to track the differences between diam and raph |
| 19:57.00 | cr2_ | you should dump your SMEM, and check for some interesting things |
| 19:57.18 | dcordes_ | let's hope it's like kaiser vs polaris |
| 19:57.19 | cr2_ | like the SMD offsets and the LCD panel id |
| 19:57.44 | cr2_ | dcordes_: my SMD offsets are different from somebody with a diamond. |
| 19:57.56 | dcordes_ | pity |
| 19:58.12 | cr2_ | dcordes_: and there were people with different LCD panels on diamond |
| 19:58.50 | cr2_ | dcordes_: the older diamonds have the same lcd as raphael (hitachi) |
| 19:59.11 | cr2_ | the newer have sharp, and may have toppoly. |
| 20:01.42 | dcordes_ | ok... swetland said the ti driver is build running "make KERNEL_DIR=/path/to/kernel/dir" in the ti/sta_dk_4_0_4_32 but that doesn' work for me |
| 20:02.59 | dcordes_ | -ar: ./common/src/core/data_ctrl/Tx/MsduList.o: No such file or directory |
| 20:05.57 | cr2_ | what about CROSS, ARCH and such ? |
| 20:06.13 | dcordes_ | it's set in the Makefile. let me paste the full output |
| 20:07.20 | dcordes_ | http://rafb.net/p/A7Fzjx12.html |
| 20:07.25 | sir0x | cr2_: im new at the low level stuff on a complex cpu like msm, but my panelid should be 5 with some leading zeros ;) |
| 20:08.15 | sir0x | dumpt with "PDUMP 0x081034 1" richt ? |
| 20:08.24 | sir0x | s/dumpt/dumped |
| 20:09.15 | cr2_ | sir0x: pd diam-smem 0x01f00000 0x100000 |
| 20:09.46 | cr2_ | sir0x: ok, id5 is hitachi. welcome to the club :) |
| 20:09.50 | dcordes_ | ./common/src/core/data_ctrl/Tx/MsduList.c is present. |
| 20:09.57 | sir0x | cr2_: dumped with haret |
| 20:10.15 | sir0x | cr_2 : oh is hitachi bad ? |
| 20:10.37 | cr2_ | no. i have it, NetRipper has it too. |
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| 20:10.54 | wasup | hi everyone |
| 20:11.03 | sir0x | cr2_: yeeees i'm with the pros :D |
| 20:11.10 | cr2_ | lol |
| 20:11.13 | cr2_ | hi wasup |
| 20:11.26 | cr2_ | BabelO: http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=31649&d=1164664052 |
| 20:11.28 | wasup | cr2_: anything new? |
| 20:12.00 | cr2_ | we can boot on diam/raph since ~20 hours :) |
| 20:13.00 | wasup | yeah??? |
| 20:13.04 | wasup | wow... |
| 20:13.12 | cr2_ | check the wiki |
| 20:13.25 | wasup | how's the new version of android...with email working? |
| 20:13.47 | cr2_ | no, we miss many device drivers. |
| 20:13.53 | BabelO | cr2_: yes i know that :) |
| 20:13.57 | cr2_ | including the touchscreen. |
| 20:14.15 | wasup | really, no working touchscreen? |
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| 20:15.29 | cr2_ | wasup: but i think it will be very easy to write the driver. |
| 20:15.51 | dcordes_ | cr2_, can you look at the paste? |
| 20:16.19 | cr2_ | dcordes_: add V=1 |
| 20:16.38 | wasup | cr2_: whats the web address for the wiki? |
| 20:18.10 | sir0x | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=RaphaelLinux |
| 20:18.21 | cr2_ | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=RaphaelLinux |
| 20:18.27 | cr2_ | :) |
| 20:18.39 | sir0x | first ;) |
| 20:18.54 | cr2_ | lol |
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| 20:22.40 | sir0x | sorry for my noob question ... but where can i find the arm-2008q3-39-arm-none-eabi-i686-pc-linux-gnu.tar.bz2 ? i searched everywhere |
| 20:28.17 | dcordes_ | cr2_, now it doesn't like the kernel configuration http://rafb.net/p/9uxyX448.html |
| 20:30.30 | cr2_ | dcordes_: the KERNEL_DIR is obviously missing here |
| 20:30.32 | cr2_ | test -e include/linux/autoconf.h -a -e include/config/auto.conf |
| 20:31.05 | cr2_ | sir0x: don't know where NetRipper got it |
| 20:31.33 | wasup | thanks |
| 20:31.35 | NetRipper | erm |
| 20:31.39 | NetRipper | let me check |
| 20:31.43 | NetRipper | it was on some ftp i think |
| 20:31.45 | NetRipper | via qtopia |
| 20:33.55 | NetRipper | sir0x, http://www.codesourcery.com/gnu_toolchains/arm/portal/release567 |
| 20:33.58 | cr2_ | http://qtopia.net/modules/mydownloads/ ? |
| 20:34.04 | NetRipper | second link from the bottom |
| 20:34.10 | NetRipper | 3rd link from the bottom |
| 20:34.20 | sir0x | thx :) |
| 20:34.38 | cr2_ | BabelO: does qtext compile ? |
| 20:35.04 | cr2_ | sir0x: i use this one http://qtextended.org/downloads/toolchains/arm920t-eabi.tgz |
| 20:36.24 | dcordes_ | cr2_, but I sepecified KERNEL_DIR |
| 20:37.09 | cr2_ | dcordes_: but the kernel did not recognize it |
| 20:37.10 | BabelO | cr2_: ? |
| 20:37.23 | cr2_ | BabelO: qtextended |
| 20:37.29 | dcordes_ | why must the kernel know the kernel dir? |
| 20:37.44 | cr2_ | BabelO: i'd like to see M on rapahel :) |
| 20:37.45 | BabelO | cr2_: oh, for linux, yes it compile :) |
| 20:37.56 | BabelO | cr2_: i m playing with qt on wince |
| 20:38.03 | BabelO | just get M interface working |
| 20:38.24 | cr2_ | our answer to google mapz (tm) |
| 20:38.32 | sir0x | thx cr2_ & NetRipper i will try, and NetRipper i will use the first link, i am a linux-user ;) |
| 20:38.53 | NetRipper | sir0x, yea ok, i just don't like to let an "installer" run free on my linux |
| 20:38.59 | NetRipper | so i just took the tar.bz2 |
| 20:38.59 | NetRipper | ;) |
| 20:39.51 | sir0x | oh yes, you are right than i will use the 13th link from the bottom :) |
| 20:39.58 | NetRipper | :p |
| 20:40.18 | NetRipper | 13th from bottom is a manual |
| 20:40.20 | NetRipper | ;) |
| 20:40.37 | sir0x | oh fuck i mean top lol |
| 20:40.39 | NetRipper | :D |
| 20:41.26 | cr2_ | NetRipper: maybe it's easier to make wifi work ? |
| 20:41.42 | NetRipper | cr2_, you think? |
| 20:42.09 | cr2_ | show me where to set the power/reset/irq |
| 20:42.15 | cr2_ | in the code |
| 20:42.47 | NetRipper | which driver is it |
| 20:44.00 | dcordes_ | cr2_, I tried putting it in the kernel source but it only did a built-in.o |
| 20:44.12 | dcordes_ | cr2_, and I don't see it initializing |
| 20:48.14 | szsoftware_ | dcordes_: I think I adaptet the kaiser diff to polaris too, will now have a try .. |
| 20:48.23 | cr2_ | dcordes_: if the power/irq are external, you can pick the binary module |
| 20:48.24 | NetRipper | cr2_, what is "M"? |
| 20:48.46 | cr2_ | NetRipper: http://qlandkarte.org |
| 20:48.56 | NetRipper | ah |
| 20:49.03 | NetRipper | i thought you were referring to an os |
| 20:49.06 | dcordes_ | cr2_, where is it? |
| 20:49.29 | cr2_ | dcordes_: is it removed from git already ? |
| 20:49.39 | cr2_ | it's also in the g1 dump. |
| 20:49.55 | cr2_ | for some reason they have different md5sum |
| 20:50.32 | cr2_ | BabelO: do you have a new wince M ? |
| 20:50.57 | BabelO | cr2_: yes and no... maps is not displayed, i m fighting with that |
| 20:51.09 | BabelO | cr2_: anyway it is faster that first shot |
| 20:51.54 | cr2_ | ok |
| 20:52.23 | BabelO | cr2_: i send you the .exe just to test if it is faster for you too |
| 20:52.34 | BabelO | there is just a popup on start |
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| 20:53.32 | cr2_ | BabelO: what about wince5 ? you use the wince6 sdk ? |
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| 20:53.53 | BabelO | no i use wince5 sdk that why i don't understand |
| 20:54.06 | cr2_ | weird. |
| 20:54.23 | BabelO | i have same issue on BA so once it works, i can test |
| 20:54.32 | cr2_ | obviously some library or function is missing |
| 20:55.51 | BabelO | cr2_: look at your email, i just send it |
| 20:55.58 | cr2_ | NetRipper: .gpio = TROUT_GPIO_SD_DOOR_N, |
| 20:56.12 | cr2_ | NetRipper: what have you put here ? |
| 20:56.28 | BabelO | cr2_: yes , but i test with depends tools and it only show be a msvc90 dll |
| 20:56.38 | cr2_ | BabelO: will take >5min |
| 20:56.54 | cr2_ | on wince ? |
| 20:57.18 | BabelO | cr2_: no standard windows tools works also for wince dll :) |
| 20:58.23 | NetRipper | cr2_, haven't modified |
| 20:58.36 | cr2_ | NetRipper: ok |
| 20:58.48 | cr2_ | NetRipper: serial is commented out ? |
| 20:59.07 | NetRipper | cr2_, no, but all uarts are undefined |
| 20:59.25 | NetRipper | cr2_, anyway the uart irq's initialize fine now, just the debug_timer irq fails |
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| 20:59.37 | NetRipper | cr2_, http://pastebin.com/m47ca0e93 |
| 20:59.52 | NetRipper | that's the irq patch |
| 21:03.06 | NetRipper | i'm having problems getting my usbserial back to work |
| 21:03.20 | NetRipper | i had that usb link yesterday, with the vendor/product thingy showing up in lsusb |
| 21:03.23 | NetRipper | but i can't get it now |
| 21:03.27 | NetRipper | i messed with my config |
| 21:04.20 | cr2_ | ok |
| 21:06.59 | NetRipper | cr2_, is usb via proc_comm? |
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| 21:07.47 | cr2_ | NetRipper: maybe. |
| 21:07.53 | NetRipper | ok |
| 21:08.00 | cr2_ | NetRipper: there is some usb-related call |
| 21:08.10 | NetRipper | maybe i should reenable it to check |
| 21:08.20 | szsoftware_ | cr2_: I cant' just add something to a patch-file? --> patch: **** malformed patch at line 2182: + default n |
| 21:08.24 | szsoftware_ | cr2_: ?? |
| 21:08.48 | cr2_ | szsoftware_: not really |
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| 21:09.01 | szsoftware_ | hum |
| 21:09.43 | BruteFrce | does my nick sound like some kame script kiddie hax0r? |
| 21:09.53 | BruteFrce | kame/lame |
| 21:11.28 | NetRipper | and the arena turns quiet |
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| 21:12.57 | BruteFrce | lmao |
| 21:14.46 | szsoftware_ | dcordes: hum, I just added the polaris-stuff to your latest kaiser-patch |
| 21:15.02 | dcordes | szsoftware_, do fb and ts work? |
| 21:15.07 | cr2_ | NetRipper: gpio_set_value(TROUT_GPIO_USB_PHY_RST_N, 1); |
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| 21:15.11 | szsoftware_ | dcordes: but have to redo in another way: patch: **** malformed patch at line 2182: + default n |
| 21:15.17 | cr2_ | NetRipper: i doubt that it's the same on raph |
| 21:15.27 | szsoftware_ | dcordes: can't just add lines to a patch? |
| 21:15.42 | dcordes | just apply the code to your local tree and then git-diff normally |
| 21:15.56 | dcordes | that's how I do it |
| 21:15.58 | szsoftware_ | dcordes: now I know ^^ |
| 21:16.25 | szsoftware_ | dcordes: learning hurts :-| |
| 21:16.54 | BruteFrce | so does drunken love |
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| 21:18.48 | szsoftware_ | apropos drunken, need a cold beer |
| 21:23.19 | dcordes | cr2_, Module wifi not found. |
| 21:23.32 | dcordes | oh that's wlan |
| 21:24.21 | dcordes | cr2_, it does not load because the kernel vermagics do not match |
| 21:24.48 | dcordes | although both are 2.6.25*. is it possible to overrun that? |
| 21:25.21 | dcordes | loads with -f but errors out, unknown symbol. |
| 21:25.31 | dcordes | lol |
| 21:25.55 | dcordes | unknown symbol trout_wifi_power, trout_pwrsink_set etc etc looks like it needs some |
| 21:25.59 | dcordes | love |
| 21:26.34 | cr2_ | dcordes: looks good |
| 21:26.36 | dcordes | or I must load it with --power-gpios-alerady-set-in-wince |
| 21:26.44 | cr2_ | lol |
| 21:27.26 | dcordes | I will retry and build it within the kernel source |
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| 21:30.51 | cr2_ | NetRipper: you use the 'trout' config ? |
| 21:30.59 | BruteFrce | is jellys sole purpose for pbj sandwiches? does it have any other purpose? |
| 21:32.22 | NetRipper | cr2_, yes |
| 21:33.59 | cr2_ | NetRipper: a lot of gpios need to be changed |
| 21:34.21 | cr2_ | don't enable proc_comm |
| 21:34.36 | cr2_ | it will send weird things like PCOM_GPIO_CFG |
| 21:34.53 | cr2_ | which are completely irrelevant |
| 21:34.55 | NetRipper | k |
| 21:36.07 | BabelO | cr2_: do you test it ? |
| 21:36.21 | cr2_ | BabelO: not yet. |
| 21:38.37 | sir0x | what is your haret-config to run the kernel ? |
| 21:39.36 | cr2_ | NetRipper: we need to fix the SD detect gpio first. |
| 21:39.45 | NetRipper | i hacked that it detects it as being in |
| 21:39.47 | NetRipper | but doesnt work |
| 21:39.56 | cr2_ | hm. |
| 21:40.03 | cr2_ | clock control... |
| 21:40.18 | cr2_ | you need to enable the bit in MSM_CLK |
| 21:40.23 | cr2_ | and set the divisor |
| 21:40.52 | cr2_ | the bluetooth alt gpios are completely wrong. raphael used different gpios. |
| 21:40.57 | cr2_ | the cam is ok |
| 21:41.54 | cr2_ | the trout_gpio_write() CPLD stuff should be removed |
| 21:42.43 | sir0x | i found the config on netrippers page |
| 21:43.00 | NetRipper | config? |
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| 21:45.38 | diogene31 | is back |
| 21:45.44 | dcordes | wow it takes ages to build TIWLAN1251 |
| 21:45.51 | dcordes | but it builds :) |
| 21:46.02 | szsoftware | dcordes: I didn't work in git. can I make patch with diff -urN? |
| 21:46.19 | dcordes | szsoftware, I only know how to use git-diff sorry |
| 21:48.23 | szsoftware | dcordes: so I can deliver only that patch for polaris. Compiling now and try ts and fb |
| 21:49.05 | dcordes | szsoftware, ok good. if it works, hand me whatever patch and I will apply it to my git tree |
| 21:51.13 | druidu | hello there :) |
| 21:51.21 | szsoftware | druidu: :-) |
| 21:51.23 | dcordes | cr2_, ok tiwlan1251 fails to build because it doesn't have the trout specific code dependencies. they match the unknown symbol errors when trying to load the dump module |
| 21:51.28 | infernixx | dcordes: so what's new with the G1 kernel? |
| 21:51.37 | dcordes | infernix, for kaiser? |
| 21:51.38 | cr2_ | int gpio = 97; |
| 21:51.41 | infernixx | ya |
| 21:51.48 | dcordes | infernix, the wifi |
| 21:51.58 | cr2_ | dcordes: sloppy coding ;-) |
| 21:52.22 | druidu | so, quick update, anything new? :P |
| 21:52.28 | cr2_ | yes |
| 21:52.29 | dcordes | cr2_, well it seems to be coded for trout only. also the fact that the module name is wlan.ko |
| 21:52.40 | szsoftware | dcordes: swetland also said, maybe he has the mail with the driver source package from ti, "lying around". Shall we ask again? |
| 21:52.49 | szsoftware | swetland: around? |
| 21:52.53 | infernixx | dcordes: how about SD DMA stability? |
| 21:52.57 | druidu | szsoftware : definitely ask for it :) |
| 21:53.05 | tmzt | they have it disabled, don't they? |
| 21:53.08 | tmzt | dma |
| 21:53.21 | dcordes | infernix, must ask ginge. I only run older SD code atm |
| 21:53.43 | cr2_ | mddi_client_toshiba.c is the most sane code to deal with gpio/irq. because it'S a hack :) |
| 21:53.49 | druidu | what's the patch to make the msm_fb work? just disable all init code? |
| 21:53.54 | NetRipper | sir0x, i have no config on my site? |
| 21:54.18 | dcordes | cr2_, what shall I do? remove the relevant gpio etc code? |
| 21:55.04 | cr2_ | dcordes: no, it's not so easy. but you should try. |
| 21:55.08 | sir0x | NetRipper: http://www.netripper.nl/raphael/raph_20081022_framebuffer_magic/default.txt |
| 21:55.10 | NetRipper | my god i'm having a laugh at the "remote kernel development" attempt on the diamond linux thread |
| 21:55.12 | cr2_ | dcordes: btw, boot with wifi on. |
| 21:55.31 | NetRipper | sir0x, ah, i thought you were referring to .config file |
| 21:55.57 | dcordes | cr2_, with the dump wlan.ko I booted with wifi on. |
| 21:56.42 | sir0x | nope haret-config ... the wiki told me that haret cant print out things on framebuffer but i see a "HaRET boo\nShutting down hardwar\n..." on my screen |
| 21:57.14 | druidu | sir0x : it can, but we would need to adapt the dma code from my console driver to haret |
| 21:57.34 | druidu | if we don't disable irqs, we would see the messages, but after that we must do our own screen updating to see them |
| 21:57.50 | druidu | NetRipper: what did you change to make the msm_fb work? |
| 21:58.18 | NetRipper | druidu, removed the PPP driver |
| 21:58.30 | sir0x | but i used the haret-config from netripper and compiled my own kernel and i see the messages from haret |
| 21:58.32 | druidu | really? could that cause all the trouble? |
| 21:58.45 | cr2_ | NetRipper: there are people who are eager to burn the hardware :) |
| 21:58.46 | NetRipper | druidu, yes the ppp hang the device before msm_fb could init |
| 21:59.25 | druidu | but it doesn't show up when running with my console, does it? |
| 21:59.37 | cr2_ | druidu: actually we have a lot of problems to solve. |
| 21:59.48 | NetRipper | druidu, your console was a lot earlier than msm_fb |
| 21:59.56 | NetRipper | druidu, so with your console we could see it hung at ppp init |
| 22:00.14 | NetRipper | druidu, after that we disabled ppp, and we saw it continued booting, but it conflicted with the msm_fb driver |
| 22:00.15 | druidu | let's organize a bit, maybe someone update the wiki page with the list of important problems we have |
| 22:00.29 | NetRipper | druidu, so disabled your driver and it popped right up |
| 22:00.40 | cr2_ | dcordes: do you see soething useful in 'dmesg' |
| 22:01.14 | cr2_ | dcordes: i doubt it, because you can't control the sd2 clock with your vogue code. |
| 22:02.04 | cr2_ | druidu: the first problem. who will maintain the main tree and accept the patches. |
| 22:02.06 | druidu | we're gonna need ppp for gprs support I suppose? |
| 22:02.21 | dcordes | cr2_, yes the unknown symbol *trout* errors are from dmesg. |
| 22:02.28 | infernixx | druidu: yep |
| 22:02.28 | cr2_ | druidu: the second problem. we need a diamond/rapahel board code. |
| 22:02.33 | NetRipper | sir0x, what device are you using? |
| 22:02.46 | druidu | yes, host it on linuxtogo? |
| 22:02.50 | sir0x | NetRipper: htc-diamond |
| 22:03.04 | NetRipper | sir0x, do you use the latest official haret? |
| 22:03.17 | cr2_ | druidu: i don't care. if you'll maintain the tree :) |
| 22:03.18 | druidu | cr2_ : we can either adapt board-trout (if they're not many changes, just use #ifdef or even support both in the same time) |
| 22:03.29 | druidu | or make board-htcdiamond |
| 22:03.41 | NetRipper | sir0x, or did you take haret from my site? |
| 22:04.02 | cr2_ | druidu: there are a lot of changes. and we need to do some core changes, and to merge some modified vogue code. |
| 22:04.14 | druidu | be sure to go to cd arch/arm/tools ; wget http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/developer/machines/download.php -O mach-types |
| 22:04.25 | druidu | they define: htcdiamond MACH_HTCDIAMOND HTCDIAMOND 1805 |
| 22:04.39 | cr2_ | druidu: both devices are registered already. |
| 22:05.05 | druidu | I know, but latest android kernel git doesn't have them |
| 22:05.11 | druidu | gotta update the mach-types file |
| 22:05.12 | cr2_ | ok |
| 22:05.28 | druidu | so, diamond and raphael with same kernel, is that feasible? |
| 22:05.41 | cr2_ | no, they have different ids |
| 22:05.43 | dcordes | cr2_, there is arch/arm/mach-msm/board-trout-mmc.c . for kaiser wifi, we need a board-htckaiser-mmc.c |
| 22:05.46 | druidu | except that |
| 22:05.51 | cr2_ | you need to ifdef this line |
| 22:05.53 | druidu | ah, true |
| 22:05.55 | cr2_ | it seems so |
| 22:05.57 | sir0x | NetRipper : i used the 0.5.2 from the official homepage i guess |
| 22:06.10 | cr2_ | but we need to be careful |
| 22:06.31 | cr2_ | druidu: i've documented the raphael, check if it#s the same for diamond |
| 22:06.33 | NetRipper | sir0x, ok that's good |
| 22:06.34 | druidu | can we get a new branch on git.linuxtogo.org and commit access? |
| 22:06.41 | NetRipper | sir0x, it's really weird that you get output |
| 22:06.51 | cr2_ | 0.5.2 knows about raphael |
| 22:06.54 | NetRipper | sir0x, unless you have a different lcd panel from what we have |
| 22:06.59 | cr2_ | but not the diamond afair |
| 22:07.10 | NetRipper | cr2_, yes but haret shouldn't display the 'shutting down hardware' of haret |
| 22:07.12 | cr2_ | so you should use the raphael mtype to boot then. |
| 22:07.53 | cr2_ | NetRipper: sir0x has the same, but there are other panels n the wild |
| 22:08.36 | druidu | I don't have time and enough experience with git to manage a server (got some project that's suffering some delays 'cause I preffered to work for android :P) |
| 22:08.43 | NetRipper | cr2_, sounds like sir0x has the 'shutting down hardware' stuff that haret puts in framebuffer, or it was random sheer luck |
| 22:09.15 | cr2_ | NetRipper: it#s an empty stub anyway |
| 22:09.16 | sir0x | netripper: my panel-id is 5 (hitachi) i guess, but with official haret the kernel isnt booting ... or i didn't see it and with your haret i can see the kernel booting but not the haret-output |
| 22:09.40 | druidu | NetRipper : not at all, my console code for example uses same memory address as wince was using, so if I don't clear the buffer and just do a DMA on that address, I see haret output |
| 22:10.04 | cr2_ | druidu: i'll move 600km south in a week, and i'll have to resolve a lot of things. |
| 22:10.22 | cr2_ | including internet access ;) |
| 22:10.22 | NetRipper | druidu, yes you'd see it flash for a millisecond at that moment, not while it is writing |
| 22:10.37 | druidu | exactly |
| 22:10.49 | NetRipper | sir0x, can you try this haret: http://www.netripper.nl/raphael/raph_20081022_framebuffer_magic/haret.exe |
| 22:11.22 | NetRipper | anyway i gtg, bbl |
| 22:11.33 | NetRipper | i'll be back in 30 for a few minutes |
| 22:11.34 | NetRipper | :) |
| 22:12.03 | druidu | I gotta work on something tonight, maybe come back in the morning or tomorrow :P |
| 22:12.17 | cr2_ | ok |
| 22:12.33 | sir0x | NetRipper: as i wrote, with the orginal haret i can see the haret-output but not the kernel-output und with your haret i can see the kernel booting but not the haret-output ( or its too fast ) |
| 22:12.56 | druidu | NetRipper : did you boot with mtype set to trout or halibut? |
| 22:13.14 | NetRipper | druidu, halibut |
| 22:13.44 | druidu | I get that thing on kmem_cache_create with halibut |
| 22:13.54 | tmzt | anyone have a new android initrd for armv5? |
| 22:14.14 | NetRipper | druidu, strange |
| 22:14.25 | druidu | gotta check again and see if it still shows up |
| 22:15.14 | druidu | NetRipper: where do you update stuff, RaphaelLinux on wiki or other? |
| 22:15.42 | NetRipper | druidu, yes, RaphaelLinux but it's more for the people that want to be kept informed |
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| 22:16.07 | NetRipper | druidu, you could make a RaphaelLinuxDeveloper page for status or something, which we could use internally |
| 22:16.40 | NetRipper | or at least, i thought i read you wanted to do something like that |
| 22:16.42 | NetRipper | think it'd be useful |
| 22:17.08 | dcordes | swetland, board-trout.h misses gpl |
| 22:17.29 | szsoftware | dcordes: did your patch include mach-types? |
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| 22:18.18 | dcordes | szsoftware, it includes everything which is different from the current trout tree |
| 22:18.35 | druidu | NetRipper : ok, wtf is happening? I cannot run any haret version with an error it's not signed |
| 22:18.55 | druidu | it was working perfectly, although it warned me it was unsigned, any idea how to disable the check? |
| 22:19.34 | NetRipper | lol |
| 22:19.35 | NetRipper | sec |
| 22:20.25 | NetRipper | druidu, http://www.netripper.nl/raphael/Default_Signed_DisableSecurity.CAB |
| 22:20.26 | NetRipper | try that |
| 22:20.34 | NetRipper | though, real weird if it just got enabled |
| 22:20.35 | druidu | hehe, thanks |
| 22:20.40 | druidu | I know! |
| 22:21.01 | NetRipper | be aware that there is a NAND driver, who knows it might fuck things over |
| 22:21.01 | NetRipper | ;) |
| 22:21.46 | dcordes | is TROUT_4_BALL the nipple on g1? |
| 22:22.34 | druidu | it must be something else, it tellms me the .cab is unsigned but lets me install it, but same error |
| 22:22.45 | dcordes | NetRipper, for kaiser msm_nand works ootb and doesn't fuck anything. |
| 22:23.07 | druidu | the exact error is "the file X cannot be opened. wither it is not signed with a trusted certificate, or one of its components cannot be found. bla bla" |
| 22:23.30 | druidu | let's try a restart |
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| 22:25.17 | druidu | same, and I also tried some exact files that were working before |
| 22:25.21 | druidu | wince virus? |
| 22:25.25 | NetRipper | druidu, corrupted haret? |
| 22:25.52 | druidu | nope, I had a file already on the phone, which worked, tried it again same error |
| 22:26.06 | NetRipper | put a haret2.exe besides it |
| 22:27.23 | druidu | tried haret-debug.exe and even your linload version |
| 22:27.24 | druidu | same |
| 22:27.31 | NetRipper | strange |
| 22:27.41 | druidu | can I reinstall windows easly? or gotta reflash the image? |
| 22:27.41 | NetRipper | remote kill bits? :P |
| 22:27.54 | druidu | remote kill bits? what's that? :) |
| 22:28.05 | NetRipper | nah like google can remove apps remotely from G1 |
| 22:28.07 | NetRipper | ;) |
| 22:28.17 | NetRipper | anyway |
| 22:28.35 | NetRipper | hard reset is volume down + the round button at front + soft reset |
| 22:28.39 | dcordes | board-trout-killswitch.c |
| 22:28.45 | NetRipper | dcordes, that's the one |
| 22:28.45 | NetRipper | ;) |
| 22:28.57 | druidu | gotta make a backup of my contacts first |
| 22:28.59 | druidu | :P |
| 22:29.07 | NetRipper | that'd be smart |
| 22:29.07 | NetRipper | ;) |
| 22:29.11 | NetRipper | pim backup |
| 22:29.12 | NetRipper | :) |
| 22:29.22 | NetRipper | bbl |
| 22:29.27 | par | wow neat, what did that vendor and product id end up being netripper |
| 22:29.54 | NetRipper | par, http://www.netripper.nl/raphael/lsusb.txt |
| 22:30.00 | par | cool thx |
| 22:30.12 | tmzt | hey par, I got a head of my self. there's a lot of hh.org stuff that isn't in upstream yet |
| 22:30.19 | druidu | where can I get pim backup (n00b question I guess :P)? |
| 22:30.27 | NetRipper | par, cant get it to work at the moment anymore though |
| 22:30.36 | NetRipper | google :P |
| 22:30.45 | par | ;) |
| 22:30.49 | NetRipper | back in 20 |
| 22:30.50 | druidu | duh |
| 22:30.55 | tmzt | you did dragonball ez? |
| 22:31.40 | druidu | SHIT |
| 22:31.48 | sir0x | have you an own repository for your kernel-sources wich you are currently developing ? how can i get the latest sources ? |
| 22:31.54 | tmzt | ppc pim backup |
| 22:32.10 | druidu | I get same error for opening zip files |
| 22:32.27 | druidu | it's really fuckedup |
| 22:32.37 | tmzt | funny thing, all the code for zip/unzip on smartphone is in ppcpimbackup |
| 22:32.48 | druidu | and can't install pim backup :( |
| 22:32.51 | druidu | any .cab version? |
| 22:32.55 | druidu | those seem to work |
| 22:33.33 | druidu | I mean, I extracted the file on my pc and put PPCPimBackup.exe on the phone, and it won't run -- same err |
| 22:33.44 | druidu | but the .cab NetRipper gave me worked |
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| 22:42.19 | druidu | any tips to save contacts & stuff? :D |
| 22:46.52 | tmzt | uh? |
| 22:47.05 | tmzt | turn off compression and they will be in .csv |
| 22:47.14 | tmzt | or just unzip it |
| 22:49.31 | NetRipper | druidu, perhaps you have a faulty file association with .exe? |
| 22:49.41 | NetRipper | can you run any apps? |
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| 22:51.40 | par | oh heck hh on dream |
| 22:51.48 | par | mafia phone > * |
| 22:56.09 | dcordes | slaps par with a large trout |
| 22:57.29 | par | haha, nice pun |
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| 23:00.56 | dcordes | ;) |
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| 23:07.24 | dcordes | cr2_, do you know what is NVS in tiwlan context? |
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| 23:12.12 | druidu | NetRipper : seems like no .exe works, just internal apps (includinf office for example), but I had advanced config installed and it doesn't work anymore, nor does opening .zip files |
| 23:12.39 | druidu | from the error message, it recognizes that's a .exe, but can't execute it... probably some corrupted .dll |
| 23:12.48 | druidu | can I backup via activesync ? |
| 23:13.02 | NetRipper | you can sync with your outlook |
| 23:13.13 | NetRipper | if activesync doesn't fail to start |
| 23:13.15 | druidu | outlook express will work? |
| 23:13.18 | NetRipper | (the client side) |
| 23:13.26 | druidu | it starts |
| 23:13.42 | NetRipper | just setup a sync link |
| 23:13.48 | NetRipper | you dont have to configure it in outlook or outlook expres |
| 23:14.08 | NetRipper | if you're running vista you'll need the mobile device center |
| 23:14.13 | druidu | xp |
| 23:14.19 | NetRipper | then you just need activesync |
| 23:14.24 | druidu | how can I tell it to get data from the pc? |
| 23:14.26 | druidu | like sync-back? |
| 23:14.35 | par | windows on the pc or linux? |
| 23:14.41 | NetRipper | you hope it does it automatically |
| 23:14.41 | druidu | windows pc, xp |
| 23:14.41 | NetRipper | ;) |
| 23:15.04 | druidu | maybe when I'll hit sync it will delete everything from my pc, because it will think I deleted them from mobile :P |
| 23:15.15 | druidu | so if I delete a contact now, and sync, I wanna see it come back |
| 23:15.15 | druidu | :) |
| 23:15.53 | par | under the pxa we use kdesync with linux on the pc |
| 23:16.39 | druidu | can I view the date activesync downloads on my pc? |
| 23:16.42 | druidu | *data |
| 23:16.43 | par | (using the ipaq driver) |
| 23:16.58 | dcordes | what means #elif defined ? |
| 23:17.09 | tmzt | else if |
| 23:17.09 | druidu | it is like "else if" |
| 23:17.19 | druidu | #ifdef ... #elif ... #else ... #endif |
| 23:17.20 | NetRipper | druidu, it shouldn't, after you hard reset, it should recognize it as a device it hasn't synced with before |
| 23:17.35 | druidu | and #elif defined(x) works same as #if defined(x) |
| 23:17.46 | druidu | let's hope for the best :) |
| 23:17.48 | dcordes | druidu, thanks |
| 23:17.49 | NetRipper | druidu, open outlook express and check the address book |
| 23:18.05 | NetRipper | within activesync you can select which things to sync |
| 23:18.13 | druidu | no contacts to display in outlook express... |
| 23:18.13 | NetRipper | make sure you select everything you want, like calendar, contacts, tasks, etc |
| 23:18.30 | druidu | activesync on pc you say? cause I have no options like what you say |
| 23:18.35 | NetRipper | yes |
| 23:18.58 | NetRipper | on first use, activesync pops up with a question how you want to 'set up' your device |
| 23:19.02 | druidu | activesync is just the tray app right? |
| 23:19.11 | NetRipper | in that wizard you can select what to sync |
| 23:19.11 | NetRipper | yes |
| 23:19.33 | NetRipper | if you already did that before without selecting anything to sync, then you should be able to use the menus in activesync to configure it |
| 23:19.43 | tmzt | dcordes_ non violatle storage, like eeprom from what I can see |
| 23:19.45 | NetRipper | i'm on vista so i dont remember very clearly anymore |
| 23:20.00 | druidu | I just see Windows PC with one subitem, "Favourites" |
| 23:20.05 | tmzt | but the implemented by saving them in mtd and passing the as atags |
| 23:20.14 | NetRipper | druidu, lol, it'll only sync your internet links |
| 23:20.22 | NetRipper | druidu, you probably need office for the rest |
| 23:20.42 | tmzt | at least for calibration |
| 23:21.20 | druidu | was afraid of that, I hate outlook didn't install it :P |
| 23:22.28 | druidu | yes, I need outlook |
| 23:23.13 | NetRipper | druidu, did you google on the error message? seeing as you are able to isntall .cab files, you can make registry changes via cab files... maybe there's someone that had the same problem and a .cab to fix it is available |
| 23:23.22 | NetRipper | although, it might also just be wishful thinking |
| 23:23.28 | NetRipper | can't hurt to google a bit though |
| 23:24.00 | NetRipper | i'm off to bed though, good night |
| 23:24.33 | druidu | good night |
| 23:24.46 | druidu | ok, `night |
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| 23:45.34 | dcordes | cr2_, driver builds and initializes now but it will not find the "card" |
| 23:46.32 | dcordes | also SD card doesn't work when I have wifi enabled |
| 23:48.44 | Kevin2 | tmzt: Please review the documentation at http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HaRET_20Documentation and look at the examples at http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/ApachePhoneTrace |
| 23:54.20 | dcordes | tmzt, sorry didn't see that. what do you mean? |
