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00:00.08xpto79i'm using haret and tryed v0.5.2 with several default.txt configurations but all gave same problem.. in booting linux.. unknown exception
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02:29.37GentoonWhats up?
02:30.25tmzthey
02:30.45tmztwas only on for a few minutes yesterday
02:30.51Gentoonlol must been
02:31.01GentoonI pinged the sjit outta you on here lol
02:31.28tmztI'm not sure what to do with you vogue
02:31.32Gentoonshit*
02:31.40Gentoonlol
02:32.05tmztcan you find information on using other phones wit cricket
02:32.15GentoonNo more ideas on howto troubleshoot ppp huh?
02:32.20tmzttry gsm forums
02:32.30tmztnot without keyboard
02:32.57tmztalthough if you build a script it could work
02:33.08GentoonI have look
02:33.09Gentooned
02:33.18GentoonI have looked on gsm forums I mean
02:33.28tmztand I know it's not gsm just those are the best forums
02:33.33GentoonWell I did a script yesterday
02:33.39tmztfor security stuff
02:34.14GentoonIll show ya
02:35.59Gentoonhttp://pastebin.com/m5d82842
02:36.26GentoonI ran that, it gave no output, inface it kills pppd and the only way to restart it is with toga
02:36.38Gentooninfact
02:38.08tmzthow long is it?
02:38.31GentoonI pasted it
02:38.35Gentoonhttp://pastebin.com/m5d82842
02:38.52tmztyeah I can't copy that
02:39.38GentoonCopy it?
02:39.48GentoonYou dont have a browser on your q?
02:40.29tmztone I'm on touch pro now
02:40.42GentoonIt has no browser?
02:41.03Gentooncat /initmodem1 > /dev/smd0
02:41.03Gentooncat /initmodem2 > /dev/smd0
02:41.03Gentoon/bin/pppd /dev/smd1 debug defaultroute local usepeerdns name 5039603008@mycricket.com noipdefault unit 0 linkname gprs novj noauth
02:41.32GentoonIt won't go, I think toga does some fany modem stuff
02:41.36tmztwell it copied
02:41.57tmztthat's not what name means
02:42.23tmztwiat maybe it is
02:42.35Gentoonit is
02:42.46GentoonMaybe its ppp.name
02:42.50tmztand you have an entry in chap secrets?
02:43.01tmztconfused it with linkname
02:43.06GentoonI couldnt figure out howto check
02:43.23tmzt'/etc/ppp/
02:43.41tmztit's brining it up though
02:43.51Gentoonhuh?
02:44.30GentoonNo it isnt lol
02:44.34GentoonNo errors either
02:44.48tmztand I think you can't ping ptp because it's in the amss (radio)
02:44.49GentoonI need to do a logcat |grep ppp after
02:44.57tmztI mean togga
02:45.06tmztyeah, paste that
02:45.19GentoonI need to let it charge for a minute
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02:45.34tmztand you ip is 10.x not really an internet address
02:46.37Gentoonoh
02:46.52Gentoonis it like a nat address?
02:47.44tmztyeah
02:48.15tmztand your real gateway is probably 10.x also
02:49.40GentoonSo how do we find them?
02:49.57GentoonStill doesnt explain why I cant ping the proxy?
02:50.07GentoonUnless its a dns issue
02:51.55GentoonAnd there is no way to get the wap.mycricket.com:8080 resolved without doing it from inside thier network... Catch 22
02:53.27GentoonAnd I can't "paste" the logcat cause I have no usb lol
02:53.34GentoonOr a text editor
02:54.03Gentoontmzt
02:55.39GentoonBut I need to not launch toga before I run that script right?
02:57.01GentoonBecause we are trying to init the connection w/o toga... thats the point of this script right?
02:57.45tmztyeah
02:58.07tmztbut you have to dial the connection first
02:58.52GentoonOh...?
02:59.01GentoonThe only way I have to do that is with Toga?
02:59.08tmztecho -e 'AT+HTCunderscoreDUN=0\r'
02:59.23tmztecho -e 'AT+HTCunderscoreDUN=0\r' greaterthan /dev/smd0
02:59.48tmztecho -e 'ATDT#777\r' greaterthan /dev/smd0
03:00.02tmztthen the ppp line
03:01.01Gentoonumm shoulda told me that before I booted android
03:01.48Gentoonlol wait I have a sd reader I can just pull out the sd write a script and put it on right? Then put the sd card back in the touch and run the script?
03:01.59tmztyes
03:04.42GentoonOkay so can you pm me what the whole script should read? Or are we doin 2 scripts?
03:10.24tmzttwo would work better
03:11.09tmztI just gave you the two lines
03:15.27GentoonSo those other lines are the whole second script?
03:18.28tmztyeah
03:18.40tmztnot the first one that was a mistake
03:18.49tmzttwo lines cat...
03:18.52tmztecho...
03:18.57Gentoonmy sd reader ( sansa mp3 player) reads my 1GB fine but doesnt like my 8gb?
03:19.20tmztinstall current rockbox
03:19.32tmztwell, which one is it?
03:19.39Gentoonthe *gb
03:19.46Gentoon1GB is emptyy now
03:19.48GentoonRockbox?
03:19.49tmztwhich model
03:19.57tmztrockbox.org
03:20.03tmztis it a e2xx
03:20.08GentoonSandisk 8GB sdhc?
03:20.17tmztthe player
03:20.19Gentoonoh the sansa?
03:20.24GentoonI dunno?
03:20.59tmztit doesn't support sdhc in the sansa firmware
03:21.10tmztso it's probably an e200
03:21.55GentoonWell fuck
03:22.05Gentoonbooting winmo takes way to long
03:22.09Gentoonthen booting android
03:22.58GentoonI think I have an old POS pearl sitting around somewhere that should read sdhc
03:23.12tmztprobably not
03:23.52GentoonI head sdhc was supposed to work on all sd devices
03:23.58tmztis your sansa the rectangular one ith the blue wheel and portrait screen
03:24.02GentoonI am glad the touch supported it
03:24.11tmztyes, if the software supports it
03:24.34tmztI had an e240, now I have the fuze
03:24.39GentoonYa
03:24.46GentoonIt is that one, fuck this sucks
03:24.52tmztI know sdhc works in rockbox even usb storage
03:25.40tmztactually I've had sansa firmware corrupt my fat partions a few times
03:26.04tmztso I only use rockbox with it
03:26.12tmzttill I lost the sansa
03:30.20Gentoonrockbox?
03:30.28GentoonHow do you install something to a sansa?
03:30.53GentoonLike flash it?
03:30.55tmztfollow the instructions on wiki at rockbox.org
03:31.20tmztit's a second os so you can always boot the sansa firmware
03:31.29GentoonDoes it kill all the music on the device memory?
03:31.55no2chemis there light sensor code in linux2go android tree?
03:32.17tmztno it doesn't
03:32.32tmztit installs to the internal fat
03:33.20GentoonYa thats the memory I am talking about
03:33.27tmztno2chem: don't think so
03:33.29GentoonThe music on the player not the sd card
03:33.32no2chemoh ok
03:33.45tmztGentoon: it does not erase the memory
03:33.47GentoonIts my roomies player
03:33.50Gentoonokay
03:33.52tmztoh
03:33.59GentoonI have a phillips 8gb waaaay better
03:34.09tmztdoes she play games?
03:34.16Gentoonhe, and now
03:34.18Gentoonno
03:34.32Gentoonwell ya but not on his sansa?
03:35.49tmztdidn't realize you had more than one roomate
03:36.26GentoonIts a couple
03:36.56GentoonMy bestfriend and hs gf
03:40.35tmztyou're on windows right?
03:41.24GentoonYup
03:41.34tmztno2chem: that might be the same adc as tocuscreen
03:41.37GentoonNeed to be while azures downloads some bs
03:42.25tmztright but that means you can use the binary installer
03:42.46GentoonYa I am
03:45.04GentoonDamn wish they had this for my phillips this is sick
03:45.54Gentoongrrr got not enough disk space :(
03:45.56tmztwhich phillips?
03:46.01GentoonWhy doesnt it check before hand?
03:46.08GentoonGoGear 8GN
03:46.12GentoonGB
03:46.57no2chemwell, its not, its on KLT
03:47.00tmztit might be portalplayer but it would still be a port
03:47.03no2chemunless touch screen is also on KLT..
03:47.20tmztno, unless that's what tssc is
03:47.32tmztbut is it adc?
03:48.09tmztI think cr2 is working on orientation
03:53.07no2chemyes, its adc
03:55.17GentoonGreat now Ill never get it back from my roommate there is like 20 games and even more apps?
03:55.19Gentoonlol wow
03:56.20tmzthold down the left arrow button to boot the original firmware (OF)
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03:58.43Gentoonwhen I connect the usb in rockbox it reboots to sansa fw?
03:59.03Gentoonso this was pointless lol
03:59.10tmztit's not a new enough build then
03:59.19tmztthe new ones have usb
03:59.32GentoonIt was the latest build?
03:59.42GentoonWhat a waste of time...
03:59.48tmztbut you shouldn't have to upgrade the bootloader
03:59.54Gentoonhuh?
04:00.03GentoonJust tell me what I need to do lol
04:00.10tmztjust unzip the new rockbox.zip
04:00.18Gentoonthe new one?
04:00.22GentoonWhere do I get that?
04:00.58GentoonI can get the sansa 3.1 from the site?
04:02.36kman_hey guys
04:02.57GentoonOh the current build and just replace .rockbox?
04:03.19kman_I'm new with the htc-linux stuff, but I got it running on my kaiser
04:03.58kman_and I purchased a sansa e280 for my gf, the V2 works with an sdhc card btw
04:04.07kman_but rockbox is cool for earlier versions
04:04.22tmzthttp://download.rockbox.org/release/3.1/rockbox-sansae200-3.1.zipyes
04:04.28tmzthttp://download.rockbox.org/release/3.1/rockbox-sansae200-3.1.zip
04:04.40tmztreplace .rockbox
04:04.58tmztkman_: there's code for that in svn now
04:05.27tmztkman_: not sure if mp3 works or not
04:06.41GentoonStill reboots to sansa fw
04:07.20GentoonWhich one tmzt first or second?
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04:09.21Gentoontmzt ya it still reboots the second I connect usb
04:09.36GentoonI tried even the current build...
04:09.42Gentoonand the one you posted...?
04:12.00Gentoondid ya bail on me?
04:13.02Gentoongrrr
04:13.05kman_tmzt: cool that sounds cool I will take a look, I am trying to check out of the git repo
04:14.25kman_unfortunatly i upgraded my router to dd-wrt and it seems to drop connections after a while causing my downloads to freeze :(
04:14.30tmztI'm here
04:15.17Gentoon?
04:15.44tmztif it's the latest 3.1 I'm going to ask on #rockbox
04:15.57tmztalthough holding down left should work
04:16.05tmztwhen you plug it in
04:16.52GentoonSo let it reboot to sansa fw the hold left?
04:17.19Gentoonbecause the second the usb is plugged in on rockboxx it restarts...
04:18.18tmztno
04:18.40GentoonSo do what?
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04:18.56tmzthold left after rockbox boots and plug in the left
04:19.08Gentoonplug in the left?
04:19.32tmztusb
04:19.51GentoonI thought holding left boots the sansa fw?
04:20.36GentoonIts not doing anything holding left or right
04:21.59Gentoontmzt?
04:22.37tmzthold on
04:22.54tmztdid you reboot in wm on the vogue anyway
04:23.31Gentoonno
04:23.36Gentoonwhy?
04:25.52tmztok
04:26.02tmztthey said use a current build
04:26.07tmztnot release
04:28.26tmzthttp://build.rockbox.org/dist/build-sansae200/rockbox.zip
04:35.54GentoonI tried current build already :(
04:36.11Gentoongoes straight to sansa fw
04:36.26GentoonI think USB is not working on any release
04:36.46tmztwell, you can copy the file to the mp3 in OF
04:37.08tmztand copy to card with filemanager on rockbox
04:37.26tmztbut I don't know why it doesn't work
04:37.31GentoonThats almost as much work as booting back and forth with winmo and android
04:39.27GentoonNow its shows the whole drive is empty in windows?
04:39.29Gentoonwtf?
04:40.21Gentoonhas the worst luck
04:41.24tmztwhat does?
04:43.17Gentoonnm
04:43.26GentoonBut still holding left does nothing?
04:44.03Gentoonwhy does it say build date 2006 in version?
04:44.30tmztyou didn't upgrade correctly
04:44.51Gentoonnm that was the sansa fw I think
04:44.58tmztfif you unzip to root?
04:45.01tmztdid
04:45.17tmztare you in #rockbox?
04:45.30GentoonI went to the rockbox info and it shows r20351-090318
04:51.21tmztok?
04:52.04GentoonYes we are good lol
04:52.15GentoonThanks again
04:52.25GentoonNow we can actually write that script
04:52.53tmztthey log that channel and like to keep it clean so people can read it
04:53.11GentoonSo that first script is good to go, doesnt need any changes?
04:53.22tmztright
04:53.37tmztthe second is your pppd line
04:53.44GentoonWell thats what search tools are for
04:54.04Gentoonpppd line?
04:55.15tmztthe one you pasted
04:55.59GentoonI am confused I just need to write those other lines you pasted into a script run it then run the other script right?
04:56.07tmztright
04:56.10Gentoonok lol
04:57.22Gentoonall 3 exho lines right?
04:57.33tmztno
04:57.39tmztjust the last two
04:57.53tmztI made a mistake on the first
04:58.04tmztit didn't redirect
04:58.23Gentoonoh
04:58.51Gentoonwhats the bash line i need to put at the beginning
05:00.58tmzt#!/bin/sh
05:01.05tmztor just . script
05:01.11tmzton the command line
05:03.32GentoonGreat now android is being broke
05:04.02GentoonAfter I tap on something it opens for a sec then closes wtf
05:04.10GentoonWhy does my luck suck so badly
05:05.40Gentoongreat now I get to restart android
05:05.54GentoonI wonder if it is because i pulled the sd card?
05:06.10tmztit shouldn't be
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05:06.38tmztandroid is not running from ram
05:07.12GentoonIf its NOT running from ram it has to be running from sd then?
05:07.23tmztwhy, I had this together yesterday
05:07.25GentoonSo that is what screwed it up....
05:07.28tmztno usb net
05:07.36tmztno working keyboard
05:07.36Gentoonhuh?
05:07.45tmztso we would use scripts
05:07.46Gentoonwhy what?
05:08.01tmztbut that was angstrom which does run from ram
05:08.19tmztthen you said we should use android
05:08.26GentoonYa thats what we are trying but I am thinkin android doesnt like having the sd card pulled
05:08.37tmztand I kept going with the original idea
05:08.53GentoonBecause I know ppp to work on android... not in angstrom lol
05:08.54tmztright, android loop mounts files on the sd card
05:09.05GentoonWhat about cupcake?
05:09.40tmztthe only way a proxy can work is if you can reach the port
05:09.42GentoonSo if you knew this the whole time why did we go through with this rockbox thing?
05:09.44tmztit uses
05:09.59GentoonWe can reac the port, or else how does winmo do it?
05:10.06tmztbecause we needed it but that was for angstrom initrd
05:10.14tmztandroid is linux based
05:10.21GentoonBut you knew I was using 1.1 not angstrom...
05:10.25tmztand wm is closed
05:10.44tmzthow can we get the low level access to what wm uses
05:10.56GentoonBut still if its possible in wm its possible in linux, ms isnt magic
05:11.16tmztright
05:11.26GentoonDude you can give up if you want, I dunno where you are going with all of this?
05:11.40tmztbut we can only reduce it to it's parts
05:11.50tmztwe can't do that with wm
05:12.06Gentoon...point?
05:12.06tmztwhere are the instrutions for wm on cricket?
05:12.11GentoonAre you done or something?
05:12.25GentoonAll they say is to add the proxy...?
05:12.40GentoonEverything else is done with nam programming....
05:12.49tmztwhere do you add that proxy?
05:13.18GentoonSystem > Connections > Advanced   or something like that
05:14.06tmztI think we can get the ppp link up and diagnose the proxy from angstrom
05:14.21tmztthen we know how to fix android
05:14.36tmztwhat field name does the proxy go in
05:14.49Gentoonin wm?
05:15.18GentoonDidnt we not even have angstrom working?
05:15.25tmztyes
05:15.26GentoonYa we didnt it was broke as shit...
05:15.42Gentoon?stabs himself in face with rusty cake
05:16.18GentoonSo that means we get to try and fix it and wait for 2 operating systems to boot on an arm processor over and over
05:16.22Gentoonsounds sweet
05:17.55tmztwell I don't even have internet on my laptop
05:18.16tmztI can't really do anything to help touch pro right now
05:18.25tmztso it's up to you
05:18.38GentoonOkay Ill get angstrom booted to see what message it was saying if I remember right it was power managment
05:18.45GentoonSo is that even fixable?
05:20.17tmztprobably just missing apm support
05:20.26tmztplease give me the error
05:21.36Gentooni will once winmo gets done booting and then angstrom gets done booting
05:24.10GentoonOh wait we did get it workin lol
05:24.14GentoonJust console
05:24.20tmztright
05:24.27tmztwhich is what we need
05:24.47GentoonYup
05:25.13Gentoonand now that Im not retarded and can see the stupid / is right next to the spacebar it will be eaier
05:25.18Gentooneasier
05:25.57Gentoongrr binky keeps fallin outta the babies mouth'
05:26.11tmztwhy did you get the touch? just wondering
05:26.28kman_yay im compiling my first android kernel :)
05:26.37GentoonI thought android development was the furthest on touch
05:26.39Gentoonwhich it is
05:26.44no2chem30 seconds later...
05:26.46perkkamy compilation got errors :P
05:26.50tmztit is
05:26.57no2chemcompilation error on line 1287.
05:26.58GentoonJust not with my carrier
05:27.00no2chem=p
05:27.03tmztagain because of dzo
05:27.15kman_did anyone get usb working for the kaiser?
05:27.28tmztno
05:27.48GentoonWhy doesnt the screen rotate when I bring up the soft keyboard... this is gunna make it a bitch
05:27.52tmztwe don't have the documentation/driver for fsusb
05:27.56kman_hmmm ok, thats kind of important
05:28.02tmztit should now
05:28.23tmztbut the orientation sensor doesn't work
05:28.42GentoonOh ya I remember why we ditched angstrom now
05:28.56tmztyou can try echo 3 greaterthan /sys/class/graphics/fbcon/rotate
05:29.06tmztwhy?
05:29.20GentoonThey keymap
05:29.31Gentoonno uppercase no symmbols
05:29.36Gentoonsymbols
05:29.51Gentoonls is returning nothing
05:30.12tmztyour in an initrd
05:30.14tmztpwd
05:30.28tmztdid rotate work?
05:30.37Gentoon/home/root
05:30.47GentoonI have to type rotate?
05:30.57Gentoonor what?
05:30.58tmztyou can try echo 3 greaterthan /sys/class/graphics/fbcon/rotate
05:31.15GentoonI need to get the screen rotated or I cant do much
05:31.57kman_how do i bring up a shell?
05:32.02GentoonStill no caps or symbols
05:32.14tmztfine
05:32.14Gentoondev tools terminal emulator
05:32.29tmztlet's just do the scripts
05:32.39tmztcan you read the screen?
05:32.42GentoonI dunno howto get to sd root?
05:32.46GentoonHalf of it
05:32.47kman_alright cool thanks
05:32.53Gentoonall of it if I hide the kb
05:32.56Gentoonnp
05:33.00kman_hehe my screen is upside down
05:33.15tmztmount /dev/mmcblk0p1 /mnt
05:33.58tmztin unix you mount devices on mountpoints, which are directories
05:34.37GentoonI know this lol
05:34.45tmztif the mountpoint is not empty the root of the mounted filesystem tempoarily replaces the mountpoint's contents
05:34.48tmztah
05:34.50Gentoonspecial device does not exist
05:35.02kman_how do I use rotate, if i am normal user, i get permission denied, if I am root the path is not set...
05:35.22tmztkman_: rotate in what?
05:35.35kman_in the shell
05:35.48kman_i would like to rotate the screen 180
05:36.04kman_on the kaiser when I open the keyboard the screen rotates the wrong way...
05:36.09tmztin android?
05:36.13kman_yes
05:36.20tmztnot sure
05:36.35kman_there is a command rotate
05:36.38kman_I will play with it
05:36.46GentoonMaybe the card is already mounted?
05:37.01tmztno
05:37.19tmztnot if you get special device does not exist
05:37.30kman_im just happy the keyboard works properly unlike winmo
05:37.30tmztcat /proc/devices
05:38.18Gentoonsmd?
05:38.22Gentoonno thats the modem lol
05:38.25tmztno
05:38.28tmztmmcblk
05:38.34Gentoondev/vc/0 ?
05:38.39tmztno
05:38.46Gentoonmem?
05:38.47tmztcat /proc/devices
05:38.59tmztgive me the number
05:38.59GentoonI did lol where do ya think i am reading this from?
05:39.03Gentoon1
05:39.13tmztfor mmcblk
05:39.19Gentoonppp is 108 ffr
05:39.27Gentoonsmd 253
05:39.42Gentoonblock devices mmc 179
05:39.42tmzt253?
05:39.47tmztok
05:39.58GentoonThats the number for smd... 253
05:40.01tmztsmd is 254 on mine
05:40.04tmztok
05:40.13Gentoon254 is rtc
05:40.27tmztmknod /dev/mmcblk0p1 b 179 1
05:40.42tmztmknod /dev/mmcblk0p2 b 179 2
05:40.58Gentoonboth?
05:41.05tmztyes
05:41.15tmztwell
05:41.25tmztyour script is on p1 right?
05:41.32Gentoonwhat?
05:41.34Gentoonp1?
05:41.42tmztpartition 1
05:42.14GentoonFile exists?
05:42.51tmztok
05:43.04tmztcan you mount it now?
05:44.11Gentoonit didnt say file exists on the second line
05:44.16Gentoonjust the first one
05:44.56Gentoonstill says special device does not exist
05:44.59tmztok
05:45.13tmztremove the sd card and insert it
05:45.24tmztdmesg
05:47.46GentoonWell without even dmesg I see spam right away
05:48.22tmztok
05:48.25GentoonFAT: Bogues number of reserved sectors
05:48.38tmzthuh
05:48.48kman_oh boy, I forgot how long it takes to compile a kernel....
05:48.59GentoonVFS: Can't find a valid FAT filesystem on dev mmcblk0
05:49.20tmztwhat,s your mount line?
05:49.22GentoonI hope I didnt fry my sd card already
05:49.26tmztno
05:49.39GentoonThat was just after inserting the mem card didnt type anything
05:49.57tmztmount /dev/mmcblk0p1 /mnt
05:50.22Gentoonsighs
05:50.28GentoonSoftkey wont come up
05:50.44Gentoonsure kernel is in ram?
05:50.54tmztsomething is trying to mount it??
05:50.57tmztyeah
05:51.14tmztcat /proc/cmdline
05:51.23Gentoonsmashes face against jagged rusted bike frame
05:51.32GentoonI cant type anything with no keyboard
05:51.52tmztcamera doesn't work?
05:51.58GentoonNope
05:52.09GentoonNot after removing sd and reinserting
05:52.10tmztno panic message?
05:52.14GentoonNope
05:52.21GentoonI can even scroll history
05:52.29GentoonCan't execute
05:52.44tmztcan't execute what?
05:53.04Gentoonthe history...
05:53.47GentoonFUCK!!! Why does everything go wrong for me?
05:53.55Gentoonsorry about language
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05:55.09GentoonWell I obviously have to restart...
05:55.19GentoonAngstrom isnt really workin to great for us
05:55.46GentoonI was wondering why googling vogue+angstrom returned nothing of interest
05:56.28tmztwhats the set CMDLINE from default.txt?
05:57.12GentoonI will have to restart and check
05:59.51Gentoon#set cmdline "mem=96M"
05:59.56GentoonAnd that is a problem
06:00.04GentoonIll comment it out
06:00.21GentoonOh wait nvm it was commented out already
06:00.48GentoonShouldnt it be ramboot?
06:00.53Gentooninstead of bootlinux?
06:01.16tmztno
06:01.51tmztthat's for building an exe from haret with kernel and initrd builtin
06:01.56Gentoonoh
06:02.04Gentoonwell the default txt is okay
06:02.10tmztno cmdline?
06:02.29tmztand initrd.gz is on internal storage?
06:03.06tmztsee if you can boot without sd in that case
06:03.15tmztand if keyboard works
06:03.52Gentoon####### Physical RAM address (override the one set in haret, which seems to fail more often)
06:03.52Gentoonset RAMADDR 0x10000000
06:04.02GentoonThat isnt in my default from android
06:04.16Gentoonbut is on angstrom
06:04.16tmztcomment it
06:04.29Gentoonk
06:04.52tmztbut kernel wouldn't boot without it being right at least it's passed by haret
06:04.58tmztdetected by haret
06:05.37Gentoonlol well i cant boot with no sd cause that is where haret is
06:05.59GentoonI am retarded
06:06.13Gentooninitrd.gz is on the stick
06:06.53tmztnormally that's ok
06:06.54GentoonZimage and initrd.gz need to be on device?
06:07.03tmztyeah for this
06:07.11GentoonThey are on the stick right now
06:07.17Gentoonso maybe that was the pronlem
06:07.21Gentoonprob
06:07.38GentoonCrap my android .img's are there I will have to rename them
06:07.55tmztput it in a folder
06:08.07GentoonPut what in a folder?
06:08.09tmztit doesn't have to be on root
06:08.14GentoonOf all the angstrom stuff?
06:08.14tmztagstrom
06:08.35GentoonOkay that makes it easier ill just move the whole folder to the internal storage
06:09.44Gentoonwith my luck ill run out of space or something stupid
06:10.06Gentoonokay im bootin with no sd
06:11.27GentoonOkay booted and have kb!
06:12.08GentoonNo support for voltage 0
06:12.35Gentoonand error 22 whilst initizializing SDIO card
06:12.41GentoonWhen I put the card in
06:12.55Gentoonand kb doesnt work now
06:12.57GentoonFUCK
06:13.02tmztthats wifi
06:13.19tmztwow
06:13.29tmztwhere's your zImage from?
06:13.48GentoonAndroid...
06:13.52GentoonLike ya said to use?
06:13.52tmztsame zImage as android right?
06:13.57GentoonYup
06:14.15tmztbut android's initrd can mount sd card fine
06:14.17GentoonIm gunna boot with the card in this time and overwrite the Zimage to make sure
06:17.07GentoonI dont know if this is related but I get some weird message everytime I connect sd card to windows, and a box that says scan and fix or continue without scanning
06:17.43tmztjust a dirty filesystem
06:18.31Gentoonok
06:19.02GentoonI already see that bs spam about not finding a valid fat system on partition 1 in startup
06:19.33GentoonWhy does god hate me?
06:21.08GentoonWait i think I just ounted it
06:21.10Gentoonmounted
06:21.31tmztI can't see why it's trying to mount the whole card
06:21.40GentoonGOT IT
06:21.47Gentoonjust happened to work this time
06:21.58GentoonOkay the echo script then the ppd line?
06:22.03tmztyes
06:22.14GentoonShow some emotion!
06:22.23tmztdo you have /dev/smd0 and smd1
06:22.31tmztemotion?
06:23.07GentoonYa it worked lol so be happy
06:23.33GentoonScript wont run says it can't find it, I am in /mnt i typed ./echo.sh ?
06:23.54tmztsh /mnt/echo.sh
06:23.56GentoonI see it when I ls
06:24.15tmztwell I'm pleased to know it worked
06:24.20Gentoonweird in androids terminal emulator i didnt have to type sh to run the ppd line script
06:24.31tmztbut confused why it didn't before
06:24.55tmztthen it can't find /bin/sh
06:25.18tmzt. /mnt/echo.sh should work
06:25.25tmzt. means source
06:25.38GentoonI got 2 lines back greaterthan /dev/smd0
06:25.38tmztso it runs in the current shell
06:25.55GentoonActually it just printed that line twice
06:26.06GentoonSo run the ppd line script?
06:26.07tmztyou had to add the symbols on windows
06:26.27Gentoonhuh?
06:26.47tmztgreaterthan is the greater than sign
06:27.05tmztI can't get symbols not on the keyboard to work
06:27.12Gentoonwhy didnt you just put >
06:27.16Gentoonoh damn lol
06:27.17tmzteven sym does nothing
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06:27.27Untouchab1eGood morning all
06:27.28GentoonSame as me in this crap
06:27.33tmzthey
06:27.41Untouchab1e:) How's everything?
06:27.42GentoonMan I hope pulling the sd card doesnt break the system
06:27.56GentoonI am sure it will, I wonder why this happens
06:28.10tmztdid you try shift .
06:28.29Gentoonlol yes
06:28.47Gentoonremember I told ya no caps or symbols
06:29.23GentoonOh my god
06:29.57GentoonWe did all of this so we could run from ram so we could make changes to the sd card by swapping... and now we are running from the FUCKING phone memory....
06:30.00Gentoonlol figures
06:30.24Gentoon?me smashes face into baby kittens
06:30.50GentoonOh wait the script is on the sd card duh
06:30.53GentoonSorry
06:31.07GentoonNot yelling at anyone, just myself
06:31.43tmztshould still boot faster than android
06:32.24Gentoon> is greater than right?
06:33.23Gentoonandroid boots in like 15 seconds, its winmo I dont like rebooting
06:33.50GentoonWhy does that break my keyboard, its not related at all....
06:33.53Gentoongrrr
06:34.13tmztyes
06:34.22tmztthat's the symbol
06:34.37GentoonWell pulling the sd card is not an option
06:34.54GentoonSo the whole rockbox thing was a waste of an hour and a half
06:34.56tmztI don't know why it breaks the keyboard
06:35.10GentoonBut at least my roommate is happy lol
06:35.27GentoonIt has to be an irq conflict of some sort
06:36.35Gentoonwell a hardware conflict
06:37.05GentoonCause al the angstrom stuff is on the internal memory.. so that means IT HAS TO BE hardware right?
06:37.27perkkawhats the prob?
06:37.44tmztsure, there's also some really nice themes for rockbox
06:38.12tmztit shouldn't matter that haret and kernel/initrd are on sd card
06:38.40tmztthe reason I had you take it out is I thought angstrom might be mounting it
06:38.49GentoonYa cause it all gets loaded to ram right?
06:39.36Gentoonwhat is it again mmcblkp0?
06:39.37tmztyes
06:39.42GentoonSomething like that lol
06:39.44tmztmmcblk0p1
06:39.48Gentoonok
06:40.17GentoonThat mean block 0 Part 1?
06:40.21GentoonPartition
06:40.49tmztyes
06:41.11tmztls /sys/block if you want
06:41.35GentoonOkay the first script ran without returning anything
06:41.43Gentoonrun the ppd line?
06:42.16tmztyes
06:44.52Gentoonline 4: /bin/ppd not found
06:45.01Gentoonsighs
06:45.28Gentooninitmodem1 and initmodem 2 dont exist either
06:46.04tmztno
06:46.12tmztbut we have the same thing
06:47.32GentoonI mean thats what it said
06:48.06tmztpppd /dev/smd1 noauth debug novj defaultroot
06:48.35tmztis username/password required?
06:49.01tmztyou said the android images are on p1 right?
06:49.13GentoonI dont know?
06:49.25GentoonI didnt know my sd card was even partitioned
06:50.43tmztit's not?
06:51.01tmztthat would explain some of the messages
06:51.03GentoonWhy would it be?
06:51.28GentoonNo one ever told me to partition it, it is not in dzo instructions?
06:51.48tmztok
06:52.31Gentoonppd gave me the help info when i typed that command
06:52.38GentoonI guess that syntax is wrong
06:53.08tmztpppd is the name of the command
06:53.14tmztnot ppd
06:53.21GentoonI know
06:53.24Gentoonit was a typo
06:53.36GentoonAnyways all the same it gave me the help info
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06:54.18tmztthen it can't find /dev/smd1
06:54.37GentoonNo it would complain to that affect not give the help info
06:54.47tmztmknod /dev/smd1 c 253 1
06:54.47Gentoonwe screwed up the syntax if we are getting help info
06:54.54tmztpppd is special
06:55.11tmztit doesn't know if that's an option or the device
06:55.35tmztso it tries to open all the devices it sees
06:55.52tmzton the command line
06:56.05tmztif it fails it tries to parse as a command
06:56.15tmztor the other way around
06:56.45Gentoonnow mknod gave me the help info
06:57.24Gentoonis there a space between 253 and 1?
06:57.57GentoonYa there was okay File exists....
06:58.02GentoonSo that wasnt the problem
06:58.04tmztyes
06:59.02Gentoon<PROTECTED>
06:59.11Gentoonso its syntax?
06:59.35tmztthe line I gave you?
06:59.53tmztit must be novjcom but I copied that from you
07:00.00tmztnovjcomp
07:00.03Gentoonpppd /dev/smd1 noauth debug novj defaultroot
07:00.20GentoonSo?
07:00.30Gentoonpppd /dev/smd1 noauth debug novjcomp defaultroot
07:00.42tmztfine
07:02.33Gentoonsame thing
07:02.42Gentoonare we missing an option or feeding it to many?
07:03.43Gentoonlemme see what my script said
07:04.05GentoonOh i cant I cant pull the sdcard
07:04.18Gentooncan I cat /mnt/smdscript.sh ?
07:05.29Gentoondefaultroute maybe?
07:05.36GentoonMy script has that
07:05.56GentoonIt was complaing about /bin/pppd though
07:06.45Gentoonlol ya there?
07:08.14Gentoonis initmodem1 and smd1 the same thing?
07:08.45Gentoonping tmzt
07:10.10GentoonI really wish ya would say brb or afk or something when your going to disapear for a long period of time lol
07:12.23tmztsorry
07:12.40tmztI was trying to record something that just came on
07:12.59tmztinitmodem1 is a script
07:13.14tmztand I asked about the android thing for a reason
07:13.51tmztit's /usr/bin or sbin pppd probably
07:13.57tmztor /sbin/pppd
07:14.35tmztand initmodem is in the root.cpio.gz file of android
07:16.37Gentoonoh
07:16.41GentoonDo we need it?
07:17.01GentoonSo what would you like me to do now?
07:17.33tmztwhere is /dev/smd1 device???
07:17.47tmztwhich pppd
07:18.12Gentoon/usr/sbin
07:19.07GentoonSo can we do it without editing the script?
07:19.15GentoonWait do we have a text editor?
07:19.20tmztyeah
07:19.22Gentoonpico or anything?
07:19.24tmztyou might
07:19.37tmztbut no ctrl right?
07:19.47GentoonOh wait wont be usable without rotating the screen will it?
07:20.17GentoonWell I have control set on left alt in android but Its not built into the kernel i don't think
07:20.55tmztrun the echo script
07:21.18tmztstat /dev/smd1
07:21.40Gentoonokay
07:21.46Gentoondmesg?
07:21.52tmztyeah
07:21.58tmztdid stat work?
07:22.27GentoonCan we grep something I cant scroll up
07:22.39tmztpppd /dev/smd1 noauth
07:22.49tmztjust stat again
07:23.46GentoonThe pppd line seemed to have worked no errors
07:23.51Gentoonjust stat again?
07:24.08tmztifconfig ppp0
07:24.26tmztroute add default dev ppp0
07:24.53Gentoonerror fetching interface device not found
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07:25.55tmztdmesg
07:26.00tmztlast few lines
07:26.04GentoonSIOCADDRT: No such device
07:26.15tmztit's the password probably
07:26.24tmztcat your script
07:26.28Gentoonwant me to run ifconfig ppp0 again then demsg cause i ran that route after
07:26.44tmztwhat's the path to pppd in it
07:26.45tmztno
07:27.03tmztI want the debug output of ppp
07:27.21Gentoon<PROTECTED>
07:27.50tmztln /sbin/pppd /bin/
07:27.50GentoonI don't know what the debug output of ppp looks like or how to get it na
07:27.52Gentoonman
07:28.05tmzt(output of which pppd)
07:28.14GentoonOkay lets slow down
07:28.30GentoonWe are talking about to many things at once I am getting confused sorry
07:28.42tmztok
07:28.46GentoonWhat do you want me to type into the console right now
07:28.52tmztforget the debug for now
07:29.02tmztwhich pppd
07:29.49tmztln /usr/sbin/pppd /bin/pppd
07:30.35GentoonI already did which ppd its usr/sbin
07:30.43GentoonI have to type it again?
07:31.06GentoonIm so lost
07:31.07tmztno
07:31.10tmztln /usr/sbin/pppd /bin/pppd
07:32.32GentoonOkay we just made a symlink so the script wont break right?
07:32.42tmztyes
07:33.07GentoonOkay now I am back
07:33.13GentoonSorry for my noobness
07:33.20GentoonI apreciate your patience
07:34.18Gentoonso we are trying the pppd script again right?
07:34.39tmztyes
07:34.48tmztbut you need the echo first
07:34.53tmztit times out
07:35.00Gentoonoh okay
07:35.04Gentoontoo late
07:35.31GentoonBut it dodnt bitch about the pppd just the initmodem
07:35.55GentoonOkay done
07:36.06GentoonDid echo then pppd script
07:36.10tmztwhat initmodem?
07:36.14Gentoonifconfig ppp0?
07:36.23tmztwhy is that in you script?
07:36.25tmztyes
07:36.50Gentoonrememeber cat: can't open /initmodem1
07:36.58Gentoonand 2
07:37.22GentoonI dunp penguin was helping me yesterday
07:37.25Gentoondunno
07:37.39tmztpenguinz?
07:37.43GentoonYa
07:37.47Gentoonon im
07:38.07tmztit would be good to know where android on omap is going
07:38.07GentoonCan't we remove a line from a txt file with a command?
07:38.14tmzted
07:38.23tmztI used it a week ago
07:38.26tmztreally
07:38.34GentoonYa I was heading up that project back in the day with your help lol but i dunno where it has gone now
07:38.40GentoonI know he has no interest in it now
07:38.55tmztwe would love the sources
07:39.08tmztsilven can put it in git at least
07:39.18GentoonI am pretty sure its in the same state it was back then...
07:39.39Gentoonlol that guy from the forum I made... he still hasnt made a git repo?
07:39.54tmztall I can find are binaries on the forum
07:40.14Gentoon(12:38:31 AM) tmzt: really   <--- what was that in response to?
07:40.15tmztkernel source and any changes to android he made
07:40.30tmztthat I used ed
07:40.35Gentooned?
07:40.49tmztit's not the easiest editor in the world to use
07:41.21GentoonI thought you could just type some command specify a line number and the file location...?
07:41.35Gentoonand edit/replace it
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07:41.39Gentoonor remove
07:43.12tmztyes but not without redirection
07:43.17Gentoonbut i guess those lines dont matter they are not hurting anything?
07:43.25tmztright
07:43.40tmztit didn't bring up ppp?
07:43.52tmzt. echo.sh
07:44.10GentoonStill says Device not found
07:44.27Gentoonwith ifconfig ppp0
07:44.30tmztpppd /dev/smd1 noauth debug nodetach
07:46.35Gentoonwow
07:46.53GentoonI just gots tons of netwroky spam
07:47.01GentoonDoes this mean we are making progress?
07:47.18tmztyeah
07:47.23tmztlast lines
07:48.17Gentoonconnect ppp0 <--> ?dev/smd1  and tcflush failed: Bad file descriptor
07:48.29tmztok
07:48.32Gentoon/dev/smd1
07:48.35Gentoonnot ?
07:48.50Gentoonifconfig ppp0?
07:49.06GentoonDid we just establish a ptp connection?
07:49.10tmztconnect is the last line?
07:49.22Gentoonno tcflush
07:49.27tmztmaybe
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07:49.36tmztifconfig
07:49.48Gentoonw/o ppp0
07:50.05tmztok
07:50.09tmzteither
07:50.35Gentoonjust shows lo
07:51.18GentoonIf I do ifconfig ppp0 says device not found again
07:51.34GentoonDont I need to type out that pppd command?
07:52.05tmztwhat command?
07:52.12Gentoonpppd /dev/smd1 noauth debug nodetach  ?
07:52.21Gentoonor did we do that?
07:52.25tmztyou should got a lot more information from ppp
07:52.49GentoonWhat do you mean?
07:52.54tmztdoes alt work?
07:52.59Gentoonno
07:53.37tmzt- ?
07:53.40GentoonI can only see whatever is left on my screen I cant scroll up
07:53.50GentoonNo the alt button doesnt work
07:54.07tmztminus?
07:54.37Gentoonlike - ?
07:55.02tmztyes
07:55.09GentoonThat requires alt
07:56.14GentoonWeird though if I press left alt and let go press a letter nothing comes up, if I press right alt release and press a letter the letter prints
07:56.43tmztso rightalt is altgr
07:56.59tmztpress left alt
07:57.04tmztthen right arrow
07:58.55Gentoonnothin
07:59.56tmztshowkey
08:00.01tmztpress alt
08:00.46Gentoon56
08:02.48Gentoontmzt?
08:02.52tmztyou have alt
08:03.01Gentoonhuh?
08:03.16tmztthat's the right keycode
08:03.25tmztand ctrl?
08:03.27Gentoonbut alt and any other key prints nothing
08:03.41tmztit shouldn't
08:03.42Gentoonthere is no ctrl on the keyboard
08:04.01Gentoonumm alt plus numbers should print charactaers, shouldnt it?
08:04.18tmztless /etc/inittab
08:04.20tmztno
08:04.25tmztit's like pc
08:04.33GentoonHe might have mapped right alt to ctrl
08:04.34tmztit's the pc keymap
08:04.47tmztmaybe
08:04.52GentoonYes in windows an alt code is alt plus 4 numbers
08:04.55tmzttry ctrl-c
08:05.08GentoonDont I have to be running something?
08:05.31GentoonJust prints a c
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08:06.20GentoonWhat info did ya want in the inittab ?
08:07.48tmzthow many vt's are used?
08:08.11tmztthink linux pc
08:08.16tmztnot windows
08:08.31Gentoonpc usualy refers to windows lol
08:08.31tmztalt normally does nothing in linux
08:08.50GentoonWhat exactly will it say to tell me how many virtual terminals are used?
08:09.08tmzthow many getty lines?
08:09.33Gentoon1
08:10.54Gentoonwhat about like ctrl alt number  ... that is using alt in linux
08:11.11tmztyes
08:11.15Gentoonor + -
08:11.20Gentoonfor resolution
08:11.27GentoonWhy do we need another vterm?
08:11.28tmztthat's X
08:11.42tmztso we can cat /dev/smd0
08:11.53tmztand see what the modem says
08:11.58Gentoonoh
08:12.08GentoonGod this would be so easy with a fucking usb driver
08:12.22tmztthis is so hard because we don't have keyboard
08:12.26GentoonI dont see how they have gotten everything to work but usb
08:12.34Gentoonbut usb works on almost every other device
08:12.37tmzttitan is a vogue with a keyboard
08:12.46tmztonly the A devices
08:12.47Gentoonok?
08:12.59GentoonOnly the A devices have usb?
08:13.06tmztthinking
08:13.09GentoonNo cause Excalibur has usb
08:13.09tmztyeah
08:13.18tmztit's not msm
08:13.22tmztit's omap
08:13.30GentoonI didnt know we were speaking msm only?
08:13.52Gentoonlol I cant exit less w/o ctrl can i?
08:14.10Gentoonx or q maybe?
08:14.13tmztq
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08:14.36tmztI wouldn't have had you use it if not
08:14.59GentoonThe "A" devices are like what? Dream Jade and Quartz?
08:15.07tmztonly A msm devices have usb
08:15.09GentoonOr just Dream and that unreleased android phone...
08:15.21tmztdream raph diam
08:15.34tmztI think jade is non A
08:15.45GentoonOh cause the xda wiki calls the A series the Android series, weird
08:15.54GentoonAnd Quartz?
08:16.15GentoonWhy does my prompt say ralphael?
08:16.43tmztyour using a raph initrd
08:16.52tmztit's wrong
08:17.04tmztA is msm7x01A
08:17.47GentoonYa well I found 4 sites now that say Rapheal and Diam are T series including HTC lol
08:18.02tmztthat's htc models
08:18.05GentoonSo I guess HTC is wrong about its own devices lol
08:18.10GentoonSeries
08:18.16tmztthey really don't matter here
08:18.31tmzthtc-linux uses codenames
08:18.32GentoonThe only A series are Saphire and Dream according to HTC
08:18.37Gentoonanyways
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08:19.03GentoonI think my next phone will be the Quartz
08:19.12tmztwhich is?
08:19.14GentoonWimax is nice and all over where I live
08:19.28tmztwith sprint?
08:19.40GentoonQuartz has the same proc as Dream accelerometer and WiMax
08:19.52GentoonWiMax isnt offered by a carrier
08:19.57tmztnot sure wimax will be the standard
08:20.03GentoonIts provided by WiMax xompanies
08:20.07GentoonThe one we have is clear
08:20.09tmztsprint bought clearwire
08:20.16GentoonUmm no
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08:20.22Gentoonlol my dad works for clear
08:20.32GentoonClear Changed to clearwire
08:20.39GentoonVice Versa
08:20.49GentoonClearwire changed to clear
08:21.08GentoonSprint offered Clear some obserd amount of money and clear said no
08:21.10tmztthan they bought the name or part of it
08:21.21GentoonMaybe the old name I don't know
08:21.27GentoonBut I use clear at home
08:21.31GentoonIt is fast as shit
08:21.31tmztok, I'll do more research
08:21.46tmztand that's fixed right?
08:21.49GentoonI get 5MB/s Down
08:21.54GentoonWhat is fixed?
08:22.00GentoonOh yes
08:22.06tmztrather than mobile
08:22.09GentoonUnless you lose reception
08:22.18tmztdifferent frequecies
08:22.24GentoonI can take my modem anywhere that has Wimax service
08:22.32GentoonJust need a plugin
08:22.42GentoonSame freqs just on AC power
08:22.50GentoonInstead ov DC
08:22.53Gentoonof
08:23.11GentoonYou can get a card that can pull the 5 MB/s as well
08:23.15tmztthat's cool
08:23.22GentoonShit the Quartz can do it
08:23.34GentoonThey have like 3 service levels like comcast
08:23.46Gentoona 1.5 2.5 and 5
08:23.55GentoonAll have crappy 512mb upload
08:24.24GentoonIts very constant speed suprisingly
08:25.09GentoonI love it cause i take my modem to the LAN party and dont have to deal with the lag of all those people on one cable line
08:25.15GentoonAnyways I am ramblin
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08:25.32GentoonWhat do you want to try?
08:26.07tmzted /etc/inittab
08:26.26tmztpress enter till you see a getty line
08:27.22Gentoonhttp://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Quartz
08:27.24GentoonOkay
08:27.45tmztsorry . enter
08:27.53Gentoonhuh?
08:28.13tmztpress . then enter
08:28.21Gentooned not found
08:28.22tmztuntil you see the getty
08:28.28tmztbusybox ed
08:29.00GentoonApplet not found
08:29.15tmztwhich vi
08:29.34Gentoon/bin/
08:29.49GentoonHow am I gunna edit this file when i cant rotate the screen?
08:29.49tmztln /bin/vi /bin/ed
08:30.03GentoonThe screen covers half of the screen
08:30.13tmztwhy?
08:30.23tmztoh
08:30.25GentoonI mean kb covers half of the screen
08:30.35tmztthis is not a screen editor
08:30.40Gentoonand why dont we just type vi /etc/inittab  ?
08:30.49tmzted /etc/inittab
08:30.57tmztyou can't exit vi
08:31.04tmztwithout escape
08:31.19GentoonBut wont making a symlink justlaunch vi when you type ed?
08:31.29tmztno
08:31.40Gentoonmmk im lost but ill type it
08:31.50tmzt$0 is the first parameter to a unix process
08:32.02tmztit's the name of the program
08:32.06GentoonI thought a symlink was just a shortcut
08:32.17tmztthat's how busybox works
08:32.44tmztit knows what name you started it as and starts that applet
08:33.28Gentoonstill says ed applet not found
08:33.45tmztbut all busybox commands are symlinks to busybox
08:33.50GentoonI mean if ed isnt here how can we use it?
08:33.57tmztso vi is just busybox
08:34.06tmztand doesn't have ed
08:34.12tmztone more try
08:34.17GentoonThats not making sense so you might as well not try, I am to stupid lol
08:34.30GentoonOkay try what now?
08:35.05GentoonLets just restart and chmod the system and make the edits? or is it read only?
08:35.27Gentoonchroot*
08:35.55tmztyou have to extract the initrd
08:36.01tmztand rebuild it
08:36.17tmztdo you have linwizard 0.2?
08:36.54tmztI don't get why android worked for ppp now
08:37.10GentoonLinwizard is omap
08:37.21Gentoonbrb
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08:39.16tmztlinwizard is arm
08:39.25tmztthe kernel is omap
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08:44.12Gentoonmmmk
08:44.22GentoonSo now we are starting all over?
08:44.50GentoonI wish dzo would respond to my replies
08:45.24GentoonWell he has been but not in the last 2 days
08:45.40tmztwe should fix the keymap
08:46.11tmztmine might be on people.openezx.org/tmzt
08:47.18GentoonBut the softkey isnt the same as a regular kb?
08:48.24Gentoonkeysq  ?
08:48.39tmztyeah
08:48.53tmztit has altgr mapped symbols
08:49.23tmztto linux the keyboard is the same
08:49.23GentoonOkay so do I need to modify it?
08:49.41Gentoonsept it has no esc or f keys?
08:49.45Gentoonor ctrl
08:49.46tmztthat's what showkey told us
08:49.53tmztjust altgr
08:50.04Gentoonaltgr?
08:50.30tmztif you don't have a shift you need to add a greaterthan line
08:51.06Gentoonwow that thing must be 1000 lines long
08:51.44GentoonI dont understand what exactly do i need to change and what do I put in?
08:52.28GentoonOh wow its 2 am I have to crash soon
08:52.32tmztwell, most line will just be letters
08:52.41GentoonFuck another day and no progress
08:52.44tmztkeycode nnn = a
08:52.58GentoonThanks for trying again though, we will get it eventually
08:53.29tmztkeycode nnn = symbol lines
08:53.37tmztsorry
08:53.43GentoonI am not understanding man
08:53.50GentoonDon't be sorry dude
08:53.58tmztthen I added altgr keycode nnn = symbol
08:54.02tmztlines
08:54.03GentoonYou are doing everything you can, I am very greatful.
08:54.41GentoonYour going to have to edit it somehow or tell me exactly what line to edit cause I dont understand
08:55.05tmztso you find the normal keysym for the symbol you want and add it as a altgr line
08:55.20tmztthe kernel uses keycodes (numbers)
08:55.22GentoonSee that might as well be in greek
08:55.32tmztthat's what showkey gives you
08:55.52Gentoon?
08:56.10tmztalt is 56
08:56.15tmztenter is 100
08:56.19tmztetc.
08:56.37GentoonI get that but I dont understand what I have to change
08:56.45Gentoonor wtf a altgr is
08:57.13tmztaltgr is used in europe to get accents or whatever
08:57.43tmztit's a modifier like alt or shift or control
08:57.53GentoonOh
08:58.06GentoonSo how does it apply to us?
08:58.20GentoonLike a second symbol set?
08:58.28tmztwe are using it for Fn or in your case right alt
08:58.31tmztyes
08:58.54GentoonSo what does this second set contain?
08:58.58tmztso altgr+A would be " on my raph500
08:59.37tmztsince dzo's keyboard doesn't have alt symbols you are just going to have to remeber your shortcuts
09:00.16GentoonWell all we need is like > < @ & * " '  right?
09:00.31Gentoonmaybe _ - =
09:00.41tmztyes
09:01.24tmztso you look in that file and find the keysyms (names) for those symbols
09:01.29GentoonI dont know If I wanna rewite that keys file tonight I am tired
09:01.48GentoonCant I just get a usb keyboard and a mini usb adapter?
09:02.40tmztno
09:03.12tmztnot having the usb driver means we don't have host
09:03.32tmztI guess I can build one for my raph and you can use it
09:03.36GentoonA standard 101 key usb keyboard driver... That would be hard to put in?
09:03.45tmzt!@#$%^&*()
09:03.50tmzttop row
09:04.03GentoonYour ralph doesnt have the same softkeyboard though.... you dont know what keys it has
09:04.36tmztno it's the usb port driver we don't have
09:04.54GentoonOh I dont have that adapter anyways
09:05.27tmztyou have number keys right?
09:05.38GentoonI thinnk I am dead in the water, I will probably lose motivation soon
09:05.42Gentoonyes
09:06.22tmztyou don't like g1?
09:06.30tmztor you want wimax
09:06.39GentoonIt is GSM...
09:06.53GentoonI like this phone cause i have it lol
09:07.07tmztbut you didn't
09:07.07GentoonI dont have money to buy another phone
09:07.18Gentoonand would be lucky to get 150 out of this one
09:07.32GentoonI didn't what?
09:07.40tmztwas it with sprint or verizon before? (when you got it)
09:07.46GentoonSprint
09:07.55tmztI mean you got it since last year
09:07.56tmztoh
09:08.08tmztdid you disable mobileip?
09:08.44GentoonI don't know what that means
09:08.51GentoonI didnt do any of the nam stuff
09:09.05GentoonWell I did change the prl cause it was keeping me from getting mms
09:09.17GentoonWas a bitch to find a local one with evdo
09:09.52tmztwhoose network is cricket?
09:10.05GentoonI have all the tools to do anything nam, qpst and all that but I cant get active sync or wmdc to work with wm7
09:10.10GentoonThere own
09:10.23GentoonThey use sprint and verizon towers
09:10.30GentoonAnd a few of there own
09:11.01GentoonAt least from what i have read
09:11.24Gentoonwhat is mobile ip?
09:11.31tmztso internet works in windows mobile?
09:11.32Gentooncould it bea problem?
09:11.34GentoonYes
09:12.00tmztnot quite sure, all I know is sprint sometimes uses it and verizon doesn't
09:12.11Gentoont just dials #777 and uses my login and pass then everything goes through that proxy
09:12.55GentoonThere must be some special NAM stuff cricket specific... thats all i can think of
09:13.32GentoonCause Android should work, it works for all the sprint and verizon stuff on vogue
09:13.37tmztit's still a sprint rom in wm right?
09:13.52GentoonI havent been able to tell, I dont think it is
09:13.59GentoonDoesnt have a sprint boot screen
09:14.05Gentoonor that cube app
09:14.15tmztinteresting
09:14.24GentoonHas a cricket boot scren and no sprint specific apps
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09:14.36tmztwe should try that atdbglog regkey
09:14.42Gentoonit has tf2d hardcoded in as well as some other stuff like this gay keyboard app
09:14.45AbracadabraGood morning
09:14.47tmztdoes cricket have a vogue
09:14.51GentoonNope
09:14.59GentoonCrickets phones all suck
09:15.13GentoonThey have the new razr thats about it
09:15.36tmztso it's just a bootscreen
09:15.43GentoonYa
09:16.05GentoonSomeone obviously pieced together some custome non carrier rom and dropped the cricket cabs in it
09:16.41GentoonIt has all sorts of shit I cant uninstall
09:16.44tmztdid you have the internet connected when booting linux?
09:16.54GentoonLike that keyboard I hate it, and it always comes up as default
09:16.57tmztbut it's cricket stuff?
09:17.09GentoonIts just wm6.1 stuff
09:17.15GentoonNothing cricket specific
09:17.31tmzt"cricket cabs"
09:17.36GentoonI have tried with it connected and not
09:17.37tmztwhat's that?
09:17.56GentoonI was reading about a cricket carrier cab
09:18.24Gentoonand my opera default page was set to the cricket wap page
09:19.05GentoonIts supposed to set up mms and internet... but my mms was borked I had to hack the shit out of my registy to get that workin
09:19.08tmztcan you link to that?
09:19.23GentoonIf I can find it
09:19.31GentoonI know it is on ppcgeeks somewhere
09:19.43tmztthere might be something we need
09:19.58GentoonYou will need a ppc account
09:20.01tmztlike connect scripts
09:20.02Gentoonppcgeeks
09:20.05tmzthave one
09:21.01GentoonFound one for titan?
09:21.11tmztso I need to fix the keymap
09:21.14tmzthuh?
09:21.30tmztwhy titan
09:22.10GentoonIts what came up when i searched ppc geeks?
09:22.13Gentoonhttp://forum.ppcgeeks.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=21168&d=1232151264
09:22.21GentoonYou want a vogue specific one?
09:22.27tmztthat should work
09:22.29tmztno
09:22.32Gentoonok
09:22.52GentoonThe first 2 cabs in that zip wont help, I dunno what is in the carrier one
09:23.04Gentoonprobably registry edits
09:24.17GentoonHow can you decypherall that binary code?
09:24.43GentoonJust a bunch of letters numbers and symbols
09:29.43Gentoontmzt?
09:29.58GentoonYou know all carriers have these cabs...
09:33.57tmztwow
09:34.12Gentoonwha?
09:34.25tmztthere's an exe or dll with ppp as imports
09:34.39tmztcan you give me the filename?
09:34.57tmztI can't extract cab right now
09:35.51GentoonFilename in the carrier cab?
09:36.01tmztyeah
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09:37.33Gentoonall there is   is OVERRI~1.001 CRICKE~1.000  00CAB646.002 and  _setup.xml
09:38.02Gentoonwantme to email you one of em?
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09:38.21tmztlook in setup.xml it should give you the names
09:38.50GentoonIts a huge file.. what am I looking for?
09:39.04tmztthe names
09:39.09Gentoonof?
09:39.16tmztthe reg keys aren't interesting
09:39.24tmztthe files in the cab
09:39.41GentoonThose were all the files in the cab?
09:39.45GentoonI am confused
09:40.12GentoonCan i just eamil you the xml as a text file?
09:41.01tmztthe .002 is ckt-mmsconfig.mscr
09:41.34GentoonThe xml file is like full of stuff pages long wouldnt know what i was looking for
09:41.58tmzt.004 is mms-startup.mcsr
09:42.24tmzt.003 is mms.mscr
09:43.40GentoonI dont know what any of this means
09:43.51tmztnot what we're looking for
09:44.07tmztwhat are the names of the files in the .zip?
09:44.28Gentoonjust some mms setup thing and arcsoft
09:45.16tmztnothing ppp?
09:45.24Gentoon<PROTECTED>
09:45.27Gentoonnope
09:45.34GentoonThats all setup in nam I believe
09:45.39tmzttitan carrier
09:45.40Gentoonno nevermind
09:45.47tmztwhat's in it?
09:45.49GentoonYa thats the one we were in lol
09:45.57tmztoh
09:46.08tmztthe setup I have is the mms one then
09:46.09GentoonI told you the first 2 were worthless and thats the one I extracted
09:46.18tmztok
09:46.40GentoonI dont think it has any special connect stuff
09:46.57tmztopen -setup.xml in notepad
09:46.57GentoonI have googled cricket ppp so many times, nothing interesting
09:47.07GentoonI did already I told you lol
09:47.10tmztsearch for charecteristic
09:47.19GentoonIts just a bunch of param blah blah blah
09:47.19tmzttype= filename
09:47.33tmztpaste if you want
09:47.40tmztcan't get email now
09:47.46GentoonPastebin?
09:47.51tmztyeah
09:49.09Gentoonhttp://pastebin.com/m75bd2fd9
09:49.33GentoonI do see charecteristic in there
09:50.02GentoonOh maybe not
09:50.06Gentoonthouht I did
09:50.27GentoonWm7 is like some stripped word I dunno how to even search with it
09:50.55Gentoons/is/has
09:51.13tmztthis is bad
09:51.41tmztit looks like the proxy stuff are activex components
09:51.59tmztstripped from the cricket q or something
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09:54.31Gentooncricket q?
09:55.20GentoonThat doesnt make sense... I didnt use that cab... All i did was manually enter the proxy into the connection settings...?
09:55.39tmztok
09:55.46tmztI read it closer
09:55.53tmztthe guids scared me
09:56.03GentoonUnless it was already ran on my rom before hand...
09:56.04tmztwhat is a type 1 proxy?
09:56.16tmztI'm guessing it was
09:56.17Gentoonill google it
09:56.34tmztsince the bootsplash was changed
09:57.09tmztit's a registry entry
09:57.17Gentoonproxy mobile ip mode
09:57.19tmztI need to know what wm calls it
09:57.25tmztoh
09:57.31Gentoonwhat wm calls what?
09:57.31tmztlink?
09:57.54tmzttype 1 proxy
09:58.02tmztin the interface
09:58.16Gentoonlook at the 4th result summary
09:58.17Gentoonhttp://www.google.com/search?q=%22type+1+Proxy%22&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
09:58.32GentoonOh wait nvm
09:58.44tmzthttp?
09:58.52tmztnot wap
09:59.10Gentoondamn it i used quotes... google doesnt use boolean?
09:59.18tmztI just looked start settings connections
09:59.28tmztno, it use + -
09:59.34Gentoonoh
09:59.44GentoonI have been using quotes for years
10:00.02tmztit does use quotes, just not and or
10:00.17tmztread Google hacks
10:00.22tmztbook
10:00.24GentoonLater lol
10:00.55GentoonI need sleep I wanna see if we make a breakthrough or a stopping point
10:01.18tmztis the proxy http or wap?
10:01.38GentoonI dont know
10:01.49Gentoonthe address is wap.mycricket.com
10:01.56tmztI just looked start settings connections
10:02.08tmztuse a proxy server
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10:02.09GentoonWhat do you mean by that?
10:02.13tmztadvanced
10:02.19tmzton wm6.1
10:02.21GentoonYa thats where mine is set?
10:02.34Gentoonwhat is your point I am confused
10:02.35tmztwhat does the dropdown say?
10:03.46GentoonHTTP
10:04.26GentoonThats the way the forum I read said to do it
10:04.37Gentoonbut it works
10:04.46GentoonIts not a drop down
10:05.25tmzthowardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1227680
10:05.35GentoonIts a box with 4 line HTTP WAP Secure WAP and Socks and my address appears only in HTTP  like HTTP  |   wap.mycricket.com:8080
10:05.43tmztok
10:05.57tmztcricket does not use mobileip
10:07.06GentoonYa
10:07.25GentoonSo maybe we have to tell android this somehow?
10:07.45tmztwe should ask somebody if you can use vzw radio
10:08.09GentoonIs that what you are thinking? and why would android work out of the box on vogues for verizon and sprint then?
10:08.23tmztdon't try that until we find out though
10:08.33GentoonVerizon radio fw?
10:08.42GentoonI doubt that would work lol
10:08.42tmztand we can ask somebody with sprint how there's works
10:08.46tmztyes
10:09.01tmztI believe vogues are the same
10:09.03GentoonIt wouldnt work with my prl...
10:09.25tmztcricket works with vzw phones
10:09.40tmztjust not mms without changing things
10:09.54tmztthe real reason is to flash tffs
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10:11.16Gentoon1Or maybe it would i dunno
10:13.08tmztit would kill mobileip which is my reason
10:14.35Gentoon1Fuck I dont wanna reflash my phone
10:14.52Gentoon1I just got winmo setup the way i want it... after 3 weeks of fucking with it
10:16.24tmztwithout seeing ppp logs its going to be impossible to debug in linux
10:16.49tmztit would almost be easier to get bluetooth working
10:17.20Gentoon1Bluetooth doesnt work in vogue yet
10:17.35tmztor maybe serial with the noisebridge adapter
10:18.02Gentoon1noisebridge adapter?
10:18.22Gentoon1I am broke lol
10:18.28Gentoon1I can't buy anything
10:19.55perkkaYO!
10:19.59perkkaany action?
10:20.16tmztdid you sleep?
10:20.45perkkano?
10:20.49perkkaim at work
10:21.03perkkatrying do to as little as possible
10:21.27Gentoon1Okay I am calling it a night
10:21.36tmztyeah
10:21.39Gentoon1maybe I should just sell this damn thing
10:21.42tmztits 6am here
10:21.44perkkaGentoon1: so whats the status?
10:21.52Gentoon1Still at square 1
10:21.55perkka?
10:22.02perkkagives?
10:22.13tmztyou could carry around you clw
10:22.16Gentoon1Havent gotten anywhere
10:22.19tmztand a wifi router
10:22.22Gentoon1clw?
10:22.30Gentoon1Phone doesnt have wifi
10:22.30perkkadidnt someone of you say network junk or something that came trough
10:22.31tmztbut no wifi in linux either
10:22.43tmztwimax modem
10:22.48Gentoon1Phone doesnt have wifi
10:22.56Gentoon1The phone doesnt have wifi
10:22.59tmztvogue doen't
10:23.02tmztforgot
10:23.06tmzttitan does
10:23.07Gentoon1lol
10:23.11Gentoon1plus modem needs ac
10:23.25tmztinverter and battery
10:23.26perkkadiamond does
10:23.33tmztnot really thoguh
10:23.42perkka?
10:23.51Gentoon1Well give it some thought tmzt and give me your final decision tomorrow if this is worth pursuing...
10:24.03tmztalright
10:24.15Gentoon1And Inverter could giver 6 amps lol
10:24.17tmztthe keyboard things the real issue though
10:24.25Gentoon1Alright thanks again for all your help bud
10:24.27Gentoon1Night
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10:25.22perkkabut its gprs or what are you trying to fix?
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10:27.09tmztcdma dat with http proxy
10:27.12tmztdata
10:27.30tmztbut he can't type commands on the keyboard
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11:23.57perkkatmzt: the touch one?
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11:25.56tmztyeah
11:29.03perkkaso what works and what does not?
11:29.14perkkathe device is actually there?
11:29.34perkkakind of working?
11:30.12perkkai'm only getting small bits and pieces of when im shimming trough your stuff and not really whats going on :P
11:30.33perkkasince i weren't there from the start
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11:40.47Marajinmorning
11:41.12perkkagooday
11:41.20Marajinhow's it going?
11:44.01perkkai dont know
11:44.09perkkano progress i think
11:44.15perkkabut im confused ;)
11:44.19Marajinheh
11:44.28MarajinI wasn't asking about progress, I meant how are YOU doing
11:44.43perkkabefore i really should be able to do anything i need to be able to know exact status of stuff :P
11:44.50perkkaOH!
11:44.53perkkatired
11:44.55perkkaat work
11:45.16perkkaso quite awful or how should it be at work? :P
11:45.35Marajinawful is about right ;)
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13:20.46TheiPiratecalls messing up is frustrating
13:20.59TheiPiratei have had a few outgoing calls that would just hang and nothing would happen
13:21.05TheiPiratei had to reboot to fix it
13:37.24MarajinTheiPirate: in android or something?
13:41.15TheiPirateyes
13:41.53TheiPiratei think calling is the most important part of the phone :o
13:42.02TheiPirateit isnt safe for it to mess up like this
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14:36.31MarajinTheiPirate: well it's not really the most important part of a phone but in fact the sole defining characteristic of a phone I'd say :P
14:36.45AstainHasPS3morning Marajin
14:36.54Marajinhey AstainHasPS3
14:37.27AstainHasPS3hows it going?
14:37.34Marajinpretty good I'd say
14:38.32Marajinhow about yourself?
14:38.37Marajinwoo lagspike, how odd
14:38.52AstainHasPS3doing well
14:39.25MarajinJolly good
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14:59.41perkkaTheiPirate: i haven't had probs, but well i dont have sound either :P
15:16.40Marajinhey dcordes
15:16.56Marajindcordes: so, I'm getting bored of playing with just WM on my kovsky now
15:17.24AstainHasPS3Marajin sounds like time for you to get driver hacking eh?
15:17.38Marajinnot really my area and I can't get the kernel to compile remember
15:17.51Marajinbut still I'm willing to lend some efforts in aid to anyone that can
15:18.15AstainHasPS3oh no I didnt remeber why can't you get kernel to compile?
15:18.26Marajinthe toolchain always segfaults in calibrate.c/o
15:18.41AstainHasPS3hmm wierd
15:19.01Marajinit might start working when I redo my server but that won't be for a week or two at least
15:19.05Marajinprobably longer
15:20.07Marajincause I need to find somewhere to stash 2.5TB of data first
15:20.45AstainHasPS3ouch!
15:24.35AstainHasPS3what kinda data you got on there?
15:25.02Marajinvideo, ISOs, programming code, websites, email, music
15:26.29AstainHasPS3hmm some stuff would tar up nicely and others wouldn't
15:26.37AstainHasPS3hows your partitioning?
15:26.46AstainHasPS3all one partition or seperate ones?
15:26.55Marajinum 6x 500GB ext3 drives
15:27.10MarajinI want to back up and redo server to do a hardware raid of the 5 main drives
15:27.20Marajinthe 6th is an external USB so can't really hardware raid that
15:28.05AstainHasPS3I kinda love my hardware raids I run on my systems lately
15:28.15AstainHasPS3err software raids I meant
15:29.31Marajinheh
15:29.51AstainHasPS3lvms is fucking awesome if you run databases
15:29.55AstainHasPS3brb
15:30.11Marajincan't be done losslessly, besides I figure I oughta do a fresh install really. I've been just cp'ing the system from drive to drive for like 6-8 years
15:30.21Marajin*can't easily be done losslessly
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15:31.51Untouchab1ehi all!
15:31.55Marajinhey Untouchab1e
15:32.01Untouchab1ehow's it going?
15:32.14AstainHasPS3Untouchab1e hi!
15:32.14Marajineh not too bad, yourself?
15:32.24Untouchab1ehehe, Im all good :)
15:32.40Untouchab1emajor boredom at class today, but other than that... its all good
15:32.55Marajinmeh class sucks ;)
15:33.05Untouchab1ehehe
15:39.50AstainHasPS3school ftl
15:40.08Marajinschool is an archaic and outmoded concept! :P
15:57.39mickeyldcordes: i decided to spend some HTC time again
15:57.47mickeyldcordes: building a fresh image atm.
15:57.52mickeyldcordes: anything i need to watch out for kernel-side?
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16:46.56AstainHasPS3lupine_85 hows the linux port for your e90 going?
16:47.07AstainHasPS3sorry e71
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17:08.37lupine_85AstainHasPS3, I'm not porting linux yet
17:08.45lupine_85I'm nibbling around the edges of making a HaRET-alike
17:09.04lupine_85I'll likely need manypounds or a full hack for the phone before I can do so
17:10.53lupine_85at this precise moment, I'm playing with HTML and CSS and tables
17:11.05lupine_85and once I get home I'll be continuing to port gnapplet to S60.3
17:11.08lupine_85busy me :D
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17:39.56Marajinlupine_85: manypounds? that some kinda debugging tool or just a missing space? :P
17:58.16lupine_85it's a space that's not there on purpose :p
17:58.37lupine_85Getting a development certificate for symbian is at least $200 + a registered company/year
17:58.47lupine_85probably more to get TCB (Which is what I'm likely to need)
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18:29.47mickeyldcordes: my kernel doesn't boot
18:29.49mickeylhangs at
18:30.08mickeylset_clock_wince set mdns host clock freq 1
18:30.16mickeylany idea?
18:30.27Dunedanhehe. Another clock related bug. ;-)
18:30.40mickeylhmm
18:30.43mickeylwhat shall i do?
18:30.53mickeylor rather
18:30.57mickeylcan you give me a revision that works?
18:31.09DunedanWhich device?
18:31.14mickeylhtcraphael
18:31.30DunedanI only own an blackstone. sorry.
18:31.58mickeylhmm, ok
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18:48.05mickeylhmm, ok, i retry with 1e936f767872234a9b299e209a5e33212de473fa, if that doesn't work i'm lost and wait for a new blessed revision advise from you guys
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18:51.54GentoonWhats up everyone
18:52.45Marajineh, not much
18:52.47Marajinyourself?
18:53.08mickeyl1e936f767872234a9b299e209a5e33212de473fa boots at least
18:53.12mickeylsetting this as known good for now
18:53.35Marajinhmm
18:53.56Marajinponders the Imageon stuff on the A class MS7XXX devices.
18:54.00mickeylhmm, where's my usb0
18:54.02mickeyl*sigh*
18:54.31MarajinI'm curious as to why if it's technically an ATi Imageon, nobody can get it to do what it's meant to, did QC really mess with it this much?
18:55.04Marajinmickeyl: did you check behind the sofa?
18:55.15mickeylah, there it is
18:55.17mickeylpicks it up
18:55.18Marajinsorry, joke when you're genuinely frustrated but I couldn't resist
18:55.23mickeylindeed
18:55.26mickeyl*cough*
18:55.32mickeylok, i'm in over usb0
18:55.41mickeylso what's with the wifi support?
18:55.46mickeyli saw the message in the git kernel commits
18:56.00mickeylwhich API is this using?
18:56.11Marajinit's only partial implementation I thought?
18:56.18MarajinIt's not meant to be functional?
18:56.19mickeyluh oh
18:56.25mickeylthat doesn't sound good
18:56.30mickeylpartial?
18:56.42Marajinwell it just means they're working on it but haven't finished yet
18:56.51Marajintechnically I'd say that was good news
18:57.16mickeylheh, k
18:57.21mickeylimpatient userlander
18:57.22GentoonI am bout to give up on my carrier
18:57.23mickeylsorry
18:57.40MarajinGentoon: which carrier is it?
18:57.45GentoonCricket
18:57.59Marajinconfiscate their wickets till they behave
18:58.03Marajinnods sagely.
18:58.10GentoonGood prices but I cannot for the life of me get net on android on my vogue
18:58.23MarajinI used to have issues like that on the kaiser
18:58.47Marajindata'd work fine for some people and yet I used to never get it to go on under android
18:58.54Marajincuriously under angstrom it worked every time
18:59.08GentoonI cant get it in android
18:59.15Gentoonangstrom
18:59.30MarajinI seem to recall that the later kaiser builds would work on data connections though for me
18:59.34GentoonIts cdma not gsm btw
18:59.38Marajinthough having to use togga pissed me off
18:59.55Marajinaye true, just saying android can be awkward when the raw support for it is fine
18:59.57GentoonYa does anyone know what toga does exctly/
19:00.05Gentoon?
19:00.13GentoonAnd how it does it
19:00.17Marajintogga? it just runs the linux commands to initialize the connection manually instead of letting android take care of it
19:00.25GentoonSi I can replicate it in angstrom
19:00.45GentoonI heard it does fancy radio stuff as well?
19:00.58MarajinI wasn't aware fancy radio stuff was needed
19:01.10GentoonWell thats good
19:01.13Marajinbut I know virtually nothing about what needs to be done with CDMA
19:01.30GentoonYa seems noone does lol
19:01.40mickeylhmm
19:01.41Gentoonsept dzo and ya cant get ahold of hime
19:01.47mickeylfinds the lack of NFS and CIFS
19:01.53mickeyl*enabling in defconfig*
19:02.21Marajinall I recall needing to do on GSM though was pass the kernel params to set the WAP/uname/passwd and then do a mknod and just giving linux a kick to establish the connection and it worked every time
19:03.07Marajinheh :p actually having NFS/CIFS would be hella handy if you have working wifi/usbnet
19:04.00GentoonYa this sucks with crappy softkeyboard no usb and no wifi... oh and no bt
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19:05.23kman_hey has anyone here set up the environment on ubuntu 8.10? I keep running into a compile issue...
19:05.42GentoonAnd then you throw in that I have to route all http traffic through a proxy for it to work
19:06.02mickeylyep, since usbnet works here, nfs is handy
19:06.06mickeyli do all my development on the host
19:06.12mickeyljust mounting the important stuff via nfs
19:06.21mickeyleither running from that or chrooting
19:06.33MarajinGentoon: I have no working KB either I think, frankly haven't tried on the kovsky yet but I'm getting to the point of being bored just tinkering with the WM side of it
19:07.13GentoonI hate winmo
19:07.15GentoonHATE
19:07.22Gentoonit is so slow and broken
19:07.40Marajinit is worryingly slow yeah
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19:07.54Marajinlot of people just keep saying it's the drive issue with MSM stuff though
19:08.12Marajinand to be fair, it ran a fucksight better on my hermes than it ever did on the kaiser
19:08.16Marajinand in some respects, the kovsky
19:08.19Marajinhey captnoord
19:09.15GentoonIt sucks caause i was teased, I mean 1.1 EVERYTHING else works but net right out of the box... calls sms, power managment...
19:10.37GentoonIt is still neccesary for vogue to have active data connection before booting android?
19:17.29AstainHasPS3Gentoon wimo isn't that bad if you have the right builds of wimo
19:19.25MarajinAstainHasPS3: and a device with working acceleration ;) Man I'd almost kill to have my kovsky not have its balls stapled to the floor when it came to say.. video rendering
19:20.00GentoonAstainHasPS3: You want to reccomend a good vogue rom then? I have tried like 4 and they have all sucked
19:20.16GentoonI want a quartz
19:20.22MarajinI mean I have an 8 gig card for it and a sexy WVGA screen and it chokes if I try to play anything at the relevant resolution/bitrate to exploit that screen.. Yeah I know you can use the encoder to make mp4 files that run muchly better but frankly they still judder occassionally
19:20.45MarajinGentoon: I wanted to get a quartz late last year but then it went silent for a while and then it's not really available in the west and meh
19:21.23GentoonThere is a guy locally that has 4, but he wasnt 400 a piece
19:21.33Gentoon600 I mean
19:21.45Gentoonwants*
19:23.06GentoonIt would just be so sexy to have wimax
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19:23.28GentoonI hope tmzt gets on today
19:23.37Marajintmzt was on earlier I think
19:23.40Marajin~last tmzt
19:23.48GentoonWe are going to try a verizon radio and see if maybe its mobile ip
19:23.53Marajindoesn't work anymore huh?
19:24.13Marajintmzt last spoke about 8 hours ago from my logs heh
19:24.27GentoonYa thats when we get goto bed
19:24.43GentoonBlah why can't i type today
19:24.48GentoonThat is when we went to bed.
19:25.23GentoonFor some reason in angstrom if I pull the sd card and put it back in it breaks my soft keyboard
19:25.53GentoonIts annoying to have to restart winmo and android eveytime I move a script to the card
19:26.40Gentoon#android should really be called #android-gsm
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19:27.07IamSOGOh! this is nice
19:28.08AstainHasPS3Gentoon verizon radio won't fix your issue
19:30.25GentoonAstainHasPS3: Have you trouble shooted Cricket ppp before? Because Verizon Radios have mobile IP disabled.. I need mobile IP disbaled. Thats what my cricket carrier cab does in winmo to make net work.
19:30.42MarajinIamSOG: ?
19:30.59IamSOGhey Marajin
19:31.01Marajinhi
19:31.54IamSOGso certain linux softwares will work on the phone? I have the Universal, but havne't install linux yet, maybe later
19:35.17GentoonAstainHasPS3: So why are you so sure verizon radio wont work?
19:44.06mickeylhmm, fun
19:44.13mickeylhere goes the next GSM 07.07 violatiojn
19:44.19mickeyl+CME ERROR: 10\r
19:44.25mickeylwhere is the fscking '\n' ?
19:44.32mickeyladjust in the parser
19:47.38GentoonHow can I access the flash memory?
19:47.41GentoonOr can I
19:47.46GentoonThe ROM
19:48.56GentoonMy rom came with a crappy onscreen keyboard and its always default no matter what i set, so I want to uninstall it
19:50.13GentoonBut its on the rom... not in the remove programs list?
19:54.49MarajinGentoon: um tends to break things unless you custom cook the ROM AFAIK
19:55.27Gentoonum?
19:55.53GentoonThe rom is custom
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20:04.55perkkayo
20:05.22perkkaGentoon: so actually what are you doing?
20:06.05GentoonIn reference to what?
20:06.24perkkano since i never really got a hang of what you two are doing
20:06.56GentoonI was just asking about removing a keyboard from my rom in winmo  nothing to do with android lol
20:07.21perkkanah not that
20:07.40perkkabut something with ppp but i actually dont get what youre doing :P
20:08.51GentoonJust trying to get my internet working in android
20:09.23perkkamodem type? 3g/gprs?
20:09.46Gentooncdma/evdo
20:10.02perkkaguess that isnt user at all here
20:10.23perkkasince im nt familiar with it
20:10.29GentoonYa mostly only used in the US
20:10.38perkkadoes the 3g chip work?
20:10.47perkkadrivers etc
20:11.00perkkaand gprs
20:11.09AstainHasPS3Gentoon I know that getting MIP or not is not changed by the radio
20:12.30GentoonVerizon radio has MIP disabled Sprint does not. Google it
20:14.53GentoonThe cricket carrier cab disables MIP for a reason this has to be done in linux to make my network work
20:19.41AstainHasPS3well if you think thats gonna fix it why you waiting
20:19.46AstainHasPS3its fast and easy to flash a radio
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20:26.15AstainHasPS3Gentoon do you need help getting that radio?
20:28.17AstainHasPS3also Gentoon by way of custom roms try ppckitchen you can make your own and choose your own keyboard
20:30.30GentoonI dont know how to cook a rom
20:30.38AstainHasPS3this one makes it easy as can be
20:30.49GentoonWhich one?
20:30.52AstainHasPS3just click the items you want chose your carrier and go
20:30.55GentoonLink please
20:30.55AstainHasPS3ppckitchen.org
20:31.02Gentoonokay
20:31.48AstainHasPS3http://www.ppckitchen.org/forums/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=4&id=11
20:32.06AstainHasPS3but back to your radio deal do you need help installing the verizon radio?
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20:34.47GentoonIm going to wait for tmzt he wanted to check some stuff to see if its even worth trying
20:35.03AstainHasPS3its easy to try Gentoon
20:35.14GentoonI dont even know if a verizon radio will let me use a local evdo prl
20:35.18AstainHasPS3it
20:35.19AstainHasPS3will
20:35.28AstainHasPS3the radio and prl are two totally different items too
20:35.36AstainHasPS3you can use any prl and radio combination
20:35.46GentoonLol earlier you were saying this wouldnt work now your pusing for it?
20:36.18AstainHasPS3what you said made me think maybe
20:36.25Gentoonlol okay
20:36.32AstainHasPS3I'm also just trying to help you learn you seemed pretty sure it would work
20:36.39AstainHasPS3and I know it won't hurt anything
20:36.46GentoonIm just willing to try anything
20:36.55GentoonI dont even know if the MIP thing is my problem
20:37.09AstainHasPS3may not be but its something you can try that will be faster than waiting
20:37.30AstainHasPS3do you have a copy of the current rom running on your phone still?
20:37.34Gentoonlol dont I have to reflash to update the radio?
20:37.52GentoonCause Im on wm7 and I havent been able to get wmdc working or active sync :(
20:38.20AstainHasPS3yes you have to reflash and I am on windows 7 as well and flash roms all the time
20:38.49Gentoonyou have wmdc or active sync working?
20:39.00AstainHasPS3active sync will not work for anything about xp
20:39.05AstainHasPS3but wmdc works perfectly
20:39.14GentoonI cant get it to install
20:39.22AstainHasPS3http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/en-us/help/synchronize/device-center-download.mspx
20:39.25Gentoonwell it installs just doesnt detect my device
20:39.30AstainHasPS3windows 7 x32 or x64?
20:39.35Gentoon32
20:39.53AstainHasPS3ahh thats something different entirely if it doesnt detect your device
20:39.53GentoonIts already installed, it doesnt work though
20:39.53GentoonYa
20:39.53AstainHasPS3reinstall it
20:40.07GentoonI have 3 times lol
20:40.48GentoonThat link requires validation I have been using the installed on my htc disk
20:40.58Gentooninstaller
20:41.31AstainHasPS3thats the problem you need a newer one that the disk will give
20:41.40GentoonYou have cracked WGA somehow?
20:41.54AstainHasPS3no need to crack wga on windows 7
20:42.03AstainHasPS3theres billions of beta keys all over that will work for you
20:42.10AstainHasPS3try this link: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=46f72df1-e46a-4a5f-a791-09f07aaa1914&displaylang=en&Hash=cOrute2dyhqcb%2bgmZM6e7Df1FL74NcmeTvd4MDcMvmDKZrvT5v89bsUYbn0t3pS7%2fP4t5BJX2kD%2bgLRSAAgJQg%3d%3d
20:42.26GentoonI have already used an activation crack... does that matter?
20:42.32GentoonOr will i need a key changer now?
20:42.44AstainHasPS3try the new link
20:43.05GentoonI am
20:43.08Gentoonits downloading
20:43.17AstainHasPS3cool
20:43.21Gentoon300k slow ass ms servers
20:43.39AstainHasPS3nope your slow ass connection
20:43.45AstainHasPS3I downloaded at 3MB/s
20:43.59AstainHasPS3just downloaded it :)
20:44.00GentoonIts going to suck redoing all those registry keys I had to change to get mms working though
20:44.04AstainHasPS3I love my works connection
20:44.07m0zzieLOL "slow ass ms servers"
20:44.19Gentoonlol well I just downloaded a torrent at 7MB/s
20:44.24AstainHasPS3Gentoon you can export those reg changes
20:44.25Gentoonso its not my connection trust me
20:44.58GentoonI would have to find them all and do them one by one?
20:45.18AstainHasPS3you can export whole reg and then play with it on pc
20:45.48GentoonCan I just export the hklm software arcsoft part?
20:45.57AstainHasPS3yep
20:46.36GentoonMan I am scared that this is going to bream my internet... this rom was flashed for me by a cricket guy I dunno what he did and how much of it was NAM and how much was in winmo
20:46.47Gentoonbreak
20:47.24AstainHasPS3its easy to fix it
20:47.56AstainHasPS3theres tons of cricket users out there and if you have a proper cricket rom you can easily get everything running again
20:49.03GentoonSo I am not building one with ppc kitchen then?
20:49.04GentoonIt still says not connected in wmdc when I connect rdnis
20:49.49AstainHasPS3is that with the box in usb to pc checked or unchecked?
20:49.58Gentoonchecked
20:50.45AstainHasPS3try it again with it unchecked
20:51.05GentoonUncheck allow USB connections in wmdc?
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20:51.36AstainHasPS3sorry I weas asking about a setting on the phone not pc
20:51.50AstainHasPS3in settings-connections-usb to pc
20:51.53GentoonWhat setting in the phone?
20:51.56Gentoonoh
20:54.42GentoonAll I have is Enable Advanced Networking radio button or Mass Storage
20:55.01GentoonThe Activesynce one is marked right now
20:55.15AstainHasPS3try unchecking it
20:56.12Gentoonits not a check box its a radio button i can only select that or mass storage, has to be one or the other
20:56.33AstainHasPS3under active sync there should be a check box
20:56.42GentoonThere isnt
20:56.50GentoonThere is only 2 under mass storgae
20:57.08GentoonOh you mean the advanced networking checkbox
20:57.17AstainHasPS3yes
20:57.27Gentoonsorry okay
20:57.32AstainHasPS3its alright
20:58.21GentoonI got a message on my phoen saying to sync this device install active sync on your desktop computer
20:58.26Gentoonphone
20:59.00AstainHasPS3and the wmdc has usb connections allowed right?
21:00.02GentoonYes
21:00.10AstainHasPS3hmm still nothing huh?
21:00.31GentoonNope
21:00.38GentoonI am sure its my wmdc installation
21:00.42AstainHasPS3well you can SD flash the phone
21:00.54GentoonI wanna uninstall it and reinstall a later version i just dont have one
21:01.16Gentoonid rather fix this issue
21:01.21AstainHasPS3the latest version of wmdc is the one I linked you to
21:02.04GentoonYou linked me to a driver update.. it didnt reinstall wmdc
21:02.20AstainHasPS3that is wmdc
21:02.39GentoonLemme try uninstalling wmdc first then
21:02.44AstainHasPS3ok
21:05.12GentoonI love my luck
21:05.19AstainHasPS3?
21:05.20GentoonThe uninstaller ran then nothing happened
21:05.37Gentoonnow if i click uninstall again it says please wait for current uninstall to complete
21:06.22GentoonOkay here we go
21:07.43GentoonDoesnt help my machine sucks, some old athlong 1.5ghz with 1.5Ghz of ddr400
21:08.42Gentoons/Ghz/GB
21:09.43AstainHasPS3ouch yah that doesnt help
21:09.50AstainHasPS3btw Gentoon where you located at?
21:09.58GentoonPortland Oregon
21:10.16AstainHasPS3cool had a friend of mine move there recently
21:10.22Gentoonsweet
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21:11.58GentoonFreaking uninstaller is frozen and I get access denied when i try to kill it
21:12.10AstainHasPS3lol ouch
21:12.39GentoonThis is why I like linux
21:12.50Gentoonkillall -9
21:12.55GentoonNo surviving it
21:12.55AstainHasPS3linux can be stupid sometimes too
21:13.02AstainHasPS3espically fucking fedora
21:13.10Gentoonyuck
21:14.13Gentoonsee that link says its wmdc but if you look its drvupdate-x86.exe
21:14.18GentoonA driver update
21:15.38AstainHasPS3yes driver update but its full wmdc
21:15.43AstainHasPS3ms named it stupid
21:15.54GentoonWell it installs no binaries
21:16.04AstainHasPS3it installs wmdc
21:16.20AstainHasPS3wmdc isn't really binaries its way different from active sync
21:16.23GentoonJust the lil driver box pops up from my sys tray saying drivers are being installed then its over
21:16.44AstainHasPS3trust me it does more than that
21:17.01GentoonIm just saying its done and wmdc is still uninstalled
21:17.25AstainHasPS3so its not in the control panel at all?
21:17.30GentoonOh here comes an installer
21:17.37GentoonWow that was delaye
21:17.40Gentoondelayed
21:17.50AstainHasPS3eh slow system and lots of shit running will cause issues
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21:18.07Gentoonokay here we go again
21:18.22GentoonShould I open wmdc first then plug usb in?
21:18.58AstainHasPS3sure try that to see what it does
21:20.12Gentoonstabs face
21:20.52Gentoonshould i try USB Serial maybe?
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21:21.09AstainHasPS3yah try that if the other fails
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21:22.38cr2mickey|bbl: hi. have you already tried the umts on raph ?
21:24.11GentoonI think windows has instaleed a different driver for it
21:24.26AstainHasPS3it will adjust itself as needed
21:24.36GentoonYa well its not lol
21:24.56AstainHasPS3unplug usb and replug it also try rebooting the machine
21:25.20GentoonHold on I wanna see what its coming up as in device manager
21:25.23AstainHasPS3not sure what more on hardware as old as your's not had issues like that cept for on roms with bad usb setups
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21:26.49GentoonI cant even find it in device manager
21:27.09AstainHasPS3try a new usb cable
21:27.12Gentoonplugged or unplugged rdnis or serial
21:27.21GentoonOnly works in usb mass storage mode
21:27.28GentoonI have
21:27.36GentoonPlus usb storage mode works
21:27.46AstainHasPS3yah rndis must have issues on your rom then
21:28.05GentoonNo I am almost sure this is pn the pc side
21:28.32AstainHasPS3wait try this
21:28.42AstainHasPS3throw it in bootloader mode and see if something shows up in device manager
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21:29.43GentoonHow?
21:30.30GentoonRestart and Hold something down?
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21:31.04AstainHasPS3yes Gentoon
21:31.11AstainHasPS3hold down power and camera hit reset
21:31.32Gentoonhit reset?
21:31.54GentoonI dont have a reset
21:32.15Gentoondo you mean hold camera and power as I turn it on?
21:33.11AstainHasPS3reset button is on the bottom
21:33.28AstainHasPS3round hole next to usb connection
21:33.50Gentoonoh
21:35.30GentoonA box came up and said device driver not successfully installed
21:36.10AstainHasPS3hmm odd
21:36.41AstainHasPS3crap sorry but I gotta run home will be back in about 30 mins or so
21:36.49Gentoonfuck
21:36.51GentoonOkay
21:36.54Gentoonwell ill be gone then
21:37.00GentoonThanks though
21:37.02AstainHasPS3welcome
21:37.25AstainHasPS3I'll be here just about all day tomorrow too
21:38.49GentoonIll be back on in 20 mins
21:38.53Gentoonlol just hurry back
21:39.00GentoonI have work tomorrow and sat
21:40.41GentoonNothing in device manager
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21:48.23GermanMafiaanyone care to help a noob out with getting android to boot on a RAPH800?
21:50.00GermanMafiaHmmm... well then, so I've tried a few different flavors of the android rom from http://connect-utb.com/index.php?option=com_jdownloads&Itemid=58&task=viewcategory&catid=4
21:50.27GermanMafiaeveryone that i've tried so far goes fine until android starts going (where it says 'A N D R O I D [ ' on the touch
21:50.33GermanMafiait goes for about 7 lines, then stops
21:50.38GermanMafiaeach one, at roughly the same point
21:51.01Untouchab1eYou know you have to wait a nearly a minute at that point before it loads up?
21:51.35GermanMafiai didn't, but i have one that's been waiting for about 5 so far
21:51.36ali1234a minute is fast
21:51.54GermanMafiaalright then! i'll be waiting.
21:51.54ali1234even in the android emulator i had to wait about 9 minutes
21:52.18Untouchab1eit shoulndt take more than a minute
21:52.36Untouchab1eHave you tried this release? http://connect-utb.com/index.php?option=com_jdownloads&Itemid=58&task=view.download&cid=27
21:52.42ali1234i don't think it should ever stop either
21:53.44GermanMafiai tried that one, but i must have been trigger happy
21:53.49GermanMafiai'll load it up again and wait longer.
21:54.03Untouchab1ealso remember to soft reset your device before launching, and make sure all cables are disconnected
21:54.16GermanMafiasoft reset is battery pull out?
21:54.34Untouchab1esoft reset is turning the device off and then start it again
21:55.09GermanMafiaokay
21:55.33Untouchab1ethe instructions over at connect-utb.com are pretty clear on that as well
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22:01.26GentoonI alsways thought that terminology was dumb
22:01.35GentoonShould just be reset and hrd reset
22:01.35GermanMafiaahhh i completely missed the forums on their website
22:01.48GermanMafiathanks for the help untouchable.
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22:03.10Gentoonppckitchen needs a username and password?
22:07.14GermanMafiaand now the big wait....
22:07.40GermanMafiaso is there stuff going on in the background at this wait, or is it really just hanging?
22:13.24GentoonWhat part?
22:13.30GentoonThe android man?
22:13.42GentoonThe first time it takes like 5 mins
22:32.40GermanMafiaokay
22:32.49GermanMafiait's been sitting for probably 20-25 now
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22:38.17Untouchab1eits not supposed to take more than 60 seconds aprox
22:38.33Untouchab1eGermanMafia.. are you sure you have placed the tmp file correctly?
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22:54.45Marajinyo
22:59.13GermanMafiai believe did, right in the \ directory, along with the business, my documents, and other folders
23:02.07GermanMafiaalright, the other folder in \ are application data, connmgr, documents and settings, htclog, and others
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23:26.41Gentoon1AstainHasPS3: You back bro?
23:34.21Gentoon1sad
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23:51.30AstainHasPS3I here Gentoon1

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