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| 09:39.25 | Untouchab1e | hi all |
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| 11:57.48 | dcordes-kais | yo |
| 12:00.04 | mickeyl | yo dcordes-kais |
| 12:00.16 | mickeyl | any good news in da house? :) |
| 12:00.34 | dcordes-kais | not from my side |
| 12:00.44 | mickeyl | hehe, ok |
| 12:01.11 | dcordes-kais | btw. there's that congress in essen I would like to attend |
| 12:01.49 | mickeyl | FSOSHRCON? |
| 12:01.54 | mickeyl | That'd be awesome |
| 12:01.58 | dcordes-kais | right |
| 12:02.26 | mickeyl | It'd be great to have someone from htclinux to highlight the importance of a non-android FOSS stack |
| 12:02.41 | mickeyl | the shr guys are still to Openmoko-centric |
| 12:02.48 | mickeyl | need to realize their importance :) |
| 12:03.05 | mickeyl | bbiab, lunch |
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| 17:06.56 | Untouchab1e | Has NetRipper made any progress recently? |
| 17:06.59 | Untouchab1e | or Maejrep? |
| 17:07.07 | Untouchab1e | havent talked to any of them in quite a while |
| 17:07.44 | tmzt | maejrep has been busy |
| 17:07.50 | tmzt | as in on other stuff |
| 17:08.16 | tmzt | I talked to j0b0 about updating the raph support but I'm not sure |
| 17:08.52 | Untouchab1e | ah, and j0bo, is he still working on it at all? |
| 17:09.06 | tmzt | not sure really |
| 17:09.12 | Untouchab1e | hmm |
| 17:09.40 | tmzt | I had asked about something zinx was working on, I think the wifi driver |
| 17:11.36 | Untouchab1e | NetRipper came pretty far on the Wifi Driver |
| 17:12.24 | tmzt | that's who was working on it? |
| 17:12.52 | tmzt | zinx made some changes to suport 2.6.29 and fixed the netdev_priv issue but that was for g1/1.5/cupcake |
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| 17:14.57 | Untouchab1e | ah, I see |
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| 17:26.55 | AstainHellbring | tmzt your keyboard still borked? |
| 17:27.33 | tmzt | yes |
| 17:27.44 | tmzt | but I'm on notebook |
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| 18:30.30 | goxboxlive | hi cr2, Munich was beautiful. And the beer is really great there :-) ... |
| 18:34.21 | cr2 | goxboxlive: hehe, if you have not disappeared before, we could have met :) |
| 18:35.42 | cr2 | goxboxlive: the weather is really nice right now, and i have a vacation this week. just returned back from driving around. |
| 18:35.58 | goxboxlive | cr2, i know, but you where so slow answering and i where so tired. But this wouldnt be my last time visiting munich. I planning on taking my pubfriends with me, maybe in the spring next year :-). |
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| 18:37.27 | goxboxlive | cr2, we cam down on Friday and the weater was cloudy and som rain, but we found a pub (the one cross the street for Hofbrauhaus "augustiner or something") where we got stucked. |
| 18:37.40 | cr2 | lol |
| 18:38.26 | goxboxlive | Saturday we where at the Neue Pinakothek and Biergarten in Englishe arten. Also some shoping. And Sunday we went to the Olympic park and the MBW mus and welt. |
| 18:39.09 | goxboxlive | btw allot of houses in Mucich have a sign "BMZ" on the buildings. WHat does that mean? |
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| 18:42.15 | cr2 | it's some info for the firefighters i think |
| 18:42.42 | cr2 | don't know the exact details. |
| 18:42.55 | cr2 | maybe i'll finally visit Oslo this summer |
| 18:43.16 | cr2 | never been in Norway before |
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| 18:47.12 | goxboxlive | Ok, Oslo is Ok, but it depend on what you will see. Norway's west coast is much more beautiful with all the fjords and mountains. ALso is kind a of a middle big city, but we dont have old buildings like you have. |
| 18:47.25 | goxboxlive | not many of the, some. |
| 18:48.02 | goxboxlive | s/ALso/oslo |
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| 18:51.12 | Baardern | Does anyone know if the usb-support that was recently added to the vogue-port works for kaiser? |
| 18:51.48 | tmzt | it would |
| 18:51.54 | tmzt | not idea if it works now |
| 18:52.00 | Baardern | I've not been able to get it to work. |
| 18:52.18 | tmzt | you need to talk with dzo when he's here |
| 18:52.38 | Baardern | Ok, I'll wait for him then. :) |
| 18:52.51 | cr2 | goxboxlive: ok |
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| 19:13.47 | AstainHellbring | Baardern I think its supposed to work for kaiser |
| 19:13.50 | AstainHellbring | did you try it? |
| 19:14.16 | Baardern | AstainHellbring: Yes, but it doesn't seem to work |
| 19:14.34 | Baardern | AstainHellbring: The computer doesn't get any stuff on the usb-channel. |
| 19:14.45 | AstainHellbring | hmm ok |
| 19:14.59 | Baardern | AstainHellbring: But the phone reports that usb went from ONLINE to OFFLINE when I remove the plug. |
| 19:15.30 | Baardern | AstainHellbring: When I re-plug the phone it doesn't make any notifications and the usb-stuff seems dead. |
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| 19:21.17 | Marajin | Baardern: I tihnk it only works for charging last time I checked |
| 19:22.22 | Baardern | Marajin: :( |
| 19:22.39 | Marajin | but I'm not up to date on kaiser stuff since I got my new phone |
| 19:23.05 | Baardern | Marajin: The commit-log says stuff about the Kaiser. |
| 19:24.24 | Marajin | interesting |
| 19:28.30 | AstainHellbring | sup Marajin? |
| 19:28.35 | AstainHellbring | broken your x1 yet? |
| 19:28.52 | Marajin | AstainHellbring: nope, it's still fine |
| 19:28.57 | Marajin | no cracks or anything |
| 19:29.23 | Marajin | clearly dcordes just uses his X1 as a basket ball or something |
| 19:29.38 | AstainHellbring | lol |
| 19:29.44 | AstainHellbring | got android running on it yet? |
| 19:29.48 | AstainHellbring | or any form of linux? |
| 19:29.53 | Marajin | well yes |
| 19:30.01 | Marajin | android 0.8 boots and angstrom |
| 19:30.29 | Marajin | TS and framebuffer seem to work fine |
| 19:30.32 | FuzzyPolarBear | wonders if anyone here knows much about the HTC Universal? |
| 19:31.24 | kiozen | wonders if we should scream goxboxlive now? |
| 19:31.32 | FuzzyPolarBear | :) |
| 19:31.32 | Marajin | kiozen: heh |
| 19:31.35 | Marajin | kiozen: go for it! |
| 19:31.41 | kiozen | :) |
| 19:32.53 | FuzzyPolarBear | has been trying to get Debian Titchy running on his phone |
| 19:33.11 | FuzzyPolarBear | but it gets to the "Booting Debian Linux..." |
| 19:33.25 | Marajin | It compiles, ship it! |
| 19:33.27 | Marajin | grins. |
| 19:33.43 | AstainHellbring | kiozen why you like xboxlive so much? |
| 19:33.50 | FuzzyPolarBear | then "Unpacking base packages. This will take a while, but only needs to be done once." then just loops thee... |
| 19:33.53 | FuzzyPolarBear | *thee |
| 19:33.56 | FuzzyPolarBear | *there |
| 19:33.56 | cr2 | release fast, release early :) |
| 19:33.59 | FuzzyPolarBear | damn my 'r' key |
| 19:34.14 | cr2 | AstainHellbring: goxboxlive is THE qtopia man. |
| 19:34.14 | FuzzyPolarBear | :) |
| 19:34.20 | AstainHellbring | ahh IC |
| 19:34.39 | kiozen | and cr2 knows universal too :P |
| 19:35.47 | kiozen | btw still haven't found a replacement for my dead palm zire 21 |
| 19:35.59 | AstainHellbring | eww palm zire... |
| 19:36.20 | kiozen | I am happy about any hint for a phone that has a decent timetable and adress book |
| 19:36.30 | cr2 | kiozen: osm is completely dead today. don't change the running system ;) |
| 19:36.32 | kiozen | and some compatibility with linux |
| 19:37.01 | kiozen | the runnig system _is_ dead since 2 weeks |
| 19:37.02 | cr2 | kiozen: universal is big and power-hungry. |
| 19:37.14 | kiozen | and stoneage |
| 19:37.31 | cr2 | yes. |
| 19:38.08 | kiozen | but seriously are all phone manufacturers too stupid to provide a usable pda/phone for less than 300� |
| 19:38.39 | cr2 | but this new fancy msm stuff is difficult without the docs. |
| 19:38.54 | kiozen | the blackberry storm looked nice, but blackberry is closed as hell |
| 19:39.22 | cr2 | kiozen: *cough* they are trying to match iphone in squezzed money / hardware capability ratio. |
| 19:39.58 | FuzzyPolarBear | I *like* my Universal thugh :) |
| 19:40.00 | FuzzyPolarBear | *though |
| 19:40.03 | FuzzyPolarBear | grins |
| 19:40.14 | FuzzyPolarBear | just don't like the Windows installation on there... |
| 19:40.25 | cr2 | FuzzyPolarBear: we talk about the phones now :) |
| 19:40.32 | FuzzyPolarBear | grins :) |
| 19:40.33 | kiozen | the storm is nice, nice powerfull timetable, good battery live, address book with no limits on the fileds, but connectivity is limited to their software and outlook :( |
| 19:40.57 | cr2 | what is "storm" ? |
| 19:41.34 | AstainHellbring | cr2 a touch screen blackberry |
| 19:41.34 | cr2 | maejrep[w]: are you still alive, or only WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW ? |
| 19:41.55 | kiozen | oopps sorry I talk about BlackBerry Curve 8900 |
| 19:42.14 | cr2 | what cpu is that ? |
| 19:42.16 | AstainHellbring | bah 8900 is edge only |
| 19:42.18 | kiozen | cr2: http://www.amazon.de/BlackBerry-Smartphone-Englisch-Schwarz-QWERTY/dp/B001OD2OAQ/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=ce-de&qid=1240342889&sr=8-2 |
| 19:42.21 | AstainHellbring | B00 on that shit |
| 19:42.41 | cr2 | and does it have the same security as wince, so we can run haret ? |
| 19:42.42 | kiozen | AstainHellbring: edge is fine for a dinosaur like me :) |
| 19:42.45 | cr2 | is it wince ? |
| 19:43.02 | kiozen | no, blackberry special |
| 19:43.18 | kiozen | that's why it works :P |
| 19:43.22 | cr2 | i wish that the people run haret on more arm-based wince devices ;) |
| 19:43.52 | cr2 | maybe we should patch it to call home. |
| 19:43.54 | FuzzyPolarBear | so... |
| 19:43.59 | kiozen | but arm uses quite much power |
| 19:44.05 | cr2 | kiozen: special == pita |
| 19:44.13 | FuzzyPolarBear | anyone know Debian Titchy at all? :) |
| 19:44.17 | kiozen | cr2: right |
| 19:44.26 | kiozen | FuzzyPolarBear: ask goxboxlive |
| 19:44.30 | FuzzyPolarBear | ah |
| 19:44.31 | FuzzyPolarBear | ok |
| 19:44.48 | FuzzyPolarBear | either that or: what's the best distro to try out on my Universal? |
| 19:44.58 | FuzzyPolarBear | I've tried a bunch in the past... |
| 19:45.02 | cr2 | kiozen: wait until they will use atom on phones ;) for better word and excel compatibility. or whatever shit ms will produce next. |
| 19:45.08 | FuzzyPolarBear | though this is the first try for titchy |
| 19:45.20 | Marajin | cr2: hah! nah they won't use atom on phones. |
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| 19:45.45 | kiozen | FuzzyPolarBear: goxboxlive should have a rootfs with qtopia |
| 19:46.08 | cr2 | kiozen: it does not support PIN |
| 19:46.12 | FuzzyPolarBear | I was following: http://www.neilandtheresa.co.uk/Wiki/Titchy%20Linux/Installing%20Debian/ |
| 19:46.35 | kiozen | cr2: I don't care, I want a usable timetable, addressbook, long battery life and a simple phone |
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| 19:47.11 | kiozen | imho that is nothing impossible from the technical pov |
| 19:47.18 | Marajin | heh |
| 19:47.25 | Marajin | you forgot the human factor |
| 19:47.26 | kiozen | however it's impossible to find a product |
| 19:49.32 | captnoord | arg if only the new dog would shutup |
| 19:49.32 | FuzzyPolarBear | googles goxboxlive... :) |
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| 19:54.40 | cr2 | ooo. the veterans :) |
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| 19:57.37 | cr2 | kiozen: do you plan to include some sample mapsets with GT/M ? |
| 19:58.10 | Marajin | captnoord: shoot the dog, it'll shut up then |
| 19:58.29 | cr2 | kiozen: to be honest, i didn't understand how to save the OSM map in GT. |
| 19:59.22 | cr2 | kiozen: tells something about usability. i'm certified "computer illiterate person", so my experience counts :) |
| 20:00.22 | captnoord | Marajin: dude... if you see her.... |
| 20:00.26 | captnoord | you will met |
| 20:00.26 | captnoord | melt |
| 20:00.27 | captnoord | :P |
| 20:01.01 | FuzzyPolarBear | watches Qtopia installing... |
| 20:01.10 | Marajin | captnoord: Lies |
| 20:01.11 | cr2 | captnoord: is it >20cm height ? |
| 20:01.16 | AstainHellbring | requests pics |
| 20:01.34 | Marajin | aims at the dog, "BOOm! Headshot!" |
| 20:01.36 | Marajin | silence reigns |
| 20:01.41 | Marajin | =) |
| 20:01.51 | FuzzyPolarBear | aw :P |
| 20:02.04 | FuzzyPolarBear | my two doggies are just laying here at my feet :) |
| 20:02.26 | kiozen | cr2: imho osm map is fine, every other map has license troubles |
| 20:02.46 | captnoord | cr2 barely |
| 20:02.49 | kiozen | cr2: so what is your problem with osm map? |
| 20:02.55 | Marajin | my last two died about a year back. I decided not to get another for a while |
| 20:03.03 | cr2 | kiozen: there are a lot of free TM maps at berkeley |
| 20:03.29 | kiozen | they are all from the last 2 centuries |
| 20:04.07 | cr2 | captnoord: good luck for your dog. when i see 1m dogs, i search for an automatic rifle. |
| 20:04.18 | cr2 | kiozen: who cares, it's only an example. |
| 20:04.46 | kiozen | no people have a gpx file and want to see it on a real map |
| 20:04.57 | captnoord | cr2 the funny thing is.... I don't get scared fast...... |
| 20:05.35 | kiozen | reminds me at my son: at least 5 m security distance - "nice dog :)" |
| 20:05.38 | captnoord | my girl has a german sheppert like 1.30 |
| 20:05.42 | captnoord | and i'm like..... |
| 20:05.46 | cr2 | captnoord: it's probably genetic. my mother hates dogs too. |
| 20:05.57 | captnoord | very very agressive towards him |
| 20:06.02 | Marajin | captnoord: all my dogs have been german shepard or labradour |
| 20:06.16 | captnoord | cr2.... genetic? trauma ***** something |
| 20:06.23 | Marajin | the last two could put their paws on my shoulders and their back legs on the ground |
| 20:06.29 | Marajin | and I'm like 1.78m |
| 20:06.39 | captnoord | hehe nice |
| 20:07.08 | Marajin | they probably weighed about 50-60kg |
| 20:07.12 | captnoord | http://cache.eb.com/eb/image?id=79504&rendTypeId=4 |
| 20:07.21 | captnoord | I love those |
| 20:07.54 | kiozen | thinks that is too much of dog |
| 20:07.56 | cr2 | kiozen: i didn't understand how to save the OSM .qmap, when i got it in the "geotiff" window. |
| 20:08.18 | kiozen | cr2: ???? what are you doing? |
| 20:08.55 | kiozen | osm is just a plain tile map, that is cached and updated via the net |
| 20:08.56 | cr2 | :) let me try again. |
| 20:09.22 | kiozen | nothing to store and no geotiff at all |
| 20:09.47 | cr2 | kiozen: yes, but in "create map" you have only 2 options: georeference 8bit tiff, and create .qmap from available geotiffs |
| 20:11.27 | kiozen | yes, for maps on your pc |
| 20:11.27 | cr2 | so i've somehow magaged to get this tiled map in the "georeferencer" window |
| 20:11.27 | kiozen | ---osm--- is the way to go if you have no local map |
| 20:11.27 | cr2 | ok, let me try again. |
| 20:12.10 | cr2 | btw, it creates the scary ------------ +proj=tmerc +lat_0=0 +lon_0=12 +k=1 +x_0=4500000 +y_0=0 +ellps=bessel +datum=potsdam +units=m +no_defs +towgs84=606.0,23.0,413.0 |
| 20:12.18 | cr2 | message at startup :) |
| 20:13.11 | cr2 | ok, got the osm map in the main window |
| 20:14.19 | cr2 | how do i save it ? |
| 20:14.46 | kiozen | cr2: that scary message is important to detect gdal <-> qt influence madness ;) |
| 20:15.03 | kiozen | cr2: you use it you donÃt save it |
| 20:15.08 | cr2 | hmm. |
| 20:15.18 | cr2 | but i want to transfer it to M. |
| 20:15.29 | kiozen | the osm project does not what you to create maps from tileserver |
| 20:15.30 | cr2 | isn't it the main excersize ? |
| 20:15.41 | kiozen | no it isn't |
| 20:16.02 | cr2 | well, but it's trivial to save a screenshot. |
| 20:16.14 | kiozen | if you want to export maps for M you need to have them locally |
| 20:16.38 | kiozen | if it's just the screen shot it twould be ok |
| 20:17.01 | cr2 | ok, but as a dumb user i want WYSIWYG |
| 20:17.02 | kiozen | but users tend to request the whole world on all zoom levels |
| 20:17.20 | kiozen | and that will break osm tile servers :) |
| 20:17.25 | cr2 | use popup as josm does it |
| 20:17.38 | cr2 | if you request > 0.5°x0.5° |
| 20:17.57 | kiozen | well that we can do |
| 20:18.02 | kiozen | however .. |
| 20:18.22 | kiozen | I would prefer some easy way to generate maps from osm base data locally |
| 20:18.25 | cr2 | don't download down to z=20 |
| 20:18.56 | kiozen | but right now this is hard to do |
| 20:18.58 | cr2 | mapnik is certainly not an option |
| 20:19.04 | kiozen | too much f.... java |
| 20:19.12 | cr2 | mapnik is c++ |
| 20:19.22 | cr2 | but its xml config is PITA |
| 20:19.43 | cr2 | i don't know what merkaartor people do for rendering. |
| 20:20.01 | cr2 | hm. maybe i'd compile the latest svn version too. |
| 20:22.14 | FuzzyPolarBear | pokes around with Qtopia... |
| 20:22.34 | FuzzyPolarBear | :) |
| 20:23.28 | FuzzyPolarBear | just needs to figure out how to make it turn 90 degrees round to the 'right way up' for my screen :) |
| 20:23.33 | cr2 | kiozen: OSM: +proj=merc +lon_0=0 +k=1 +x_0=0 +y_0=0 +a=6378137 +b=6378137 +units=m +no_defs |
| 20:23.46 | cr2 | kiozen: +nadgrids=@null ? |
| 20:24.06 | kiozen | cr2: works like that, I was amazed too |
| 20:24.23 | kiozen | at least with proj 4.6 |
| 20:24.42 | cr2 | strange. i always got 8km offset with qgis in the past |
| 20:25.17 | cr2 | ok, maybe 4.6 |
| 20:28.36 | kiozen | think frank did some work on that |
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| 20:47.52 | cr2 | hmm. what format should i use ?? |
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