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| 02:56.21 | tmzt | get_pos makes it sound like the qualcomm gps api on other cdma phones, it doesn't work without carrier support |
| 02:56.37 | tmzt | I hope will actually do have NMEA under there somewhere |
| 03:01.44 | par | yeah, assisted gps needs a server on the carrier end to intereact with it and feed it data |
| 03:02.25 | par | certain carriers do have it as an option for an extra monthly fee.. but not a lot of them from what i can see |
| 03:03.11 | tmzt | but with the dsp module enabled, like on the Sprint devices, we don't need that |
| 03:04.32 | par | does the sprint vogue work? |
| 03:05.05 | tmzt | don't know, but the raph does with the right radio |
| 03:05.22 | tmzt | are you on verizon? |
| 03:05.30 | par | and how do you mean, don't need that.. ah, but the raph doesn't have the assisted gps chop in it then? |
| 03:05.36 | par | err chip |
| 03:05.46 | par | i have sprint |
| 03:05.51 | tmzt | it's just software |
| 03:05.59 | tmzt | running on the arm9 and the adsp |
| 03:06.13 | tmzt | I think the rf part is the same |
| 03:06.31 | par | well the gps is a chip and an antenna in the device |
| 03:06.45 | par | i thought the chip was only capable of assisted gps though |
| 03:07.19 | par | the raph has full gps capability right? |
| 03:07.55 | tmzt | same chips, verizon's has its disabled |
| 03:08.00 | par | oh i see |
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| 03:08.31 | par | so it appears a-gps on the htc's is normal gps but with additional function |
| 03:08.57 | par | sprints is disabled for me too |
| 03:10.13 | par | do you have a way to enable it on the raph? |
| 03:11.09 | tmzt | with a different prl its supposed to work |
| 03:11.16 | tmzt | I just don't know how to load it |
| 03:12.59 | par | oh neat |
| 03:13.42 | par | i always though only sprint used prl on htc |
| 03:13.45 | par | never verizon |
| 03:13.49 | par | has that changed? |
| 03:14.02 | tmzt | all cdma uses prl |
| 03:14.32 | par | it must be sealess ota ? |
| 03:14.40 | par | err seamless ota |
| 03:15.17 | tmzt | I think we have to use #228 to upgrade ota |
| 03:18.37 | par | yah, well sprints position on the gps chip is: |
| 03:18.38 | par | The HTC SCP6900 phone is capable of using only GPS-911 service |
| 03:20.31 | par | what can i dial to list out my prl version? |
| 03:20.32 | tmzt | I don't know about non-A, but I don't think that's accurate |
| 03:21.15 | tmzt | try hofo, it has codes for sprint, they're different then vzw |
| 03:23.16 | par | oh i got the wayt o upgrade vzw prl |
| 03:23.24 | par | http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=50076 |
| 03:23.38 | par | its 9 steps in the first post |
| 03:26.13 | tmzt | cool, I have the prl for enabling gps |
| 03:26.22 | tmzt | but I don't know if these codes work on vzw dialer |
| 03:27.45 | par | you mean the **775? |
| 03:27.53 | tmzt | yes |
| 03:28.28 | par | you could try |
| 03:29.10 | tmzt | I will, I'm in linux right now |
| 03:30.31 | par | i'm trying to find the bes sprint prl |
| 03:31.01 | tmzt | you might try the one from touch pro |
| 03:31.30 | tmzt | the thread says it's pri that determines gps working or not though |
| 03:38.39 | par | right |
| 03:40.09 | par | my prl version is 60652 |
| 03:40.24 | par | and my PRI is 1.33_003 |
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| 03:51.58 | par | hmm i think that i've a stock PRI |
| 03:53.52 | tmzt | have you tried dzo's gps code? |
| 03:57.18 | par | no |
| 03:57.43 | par | i want to try to get my PRI to 1.57_003, i think that might help |
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| 03:58.54 | tmzt | I'm not quite sure what PRI is, so I don't know how to do that |
| 04:02.44 | par | they can install through executing /windows/PPST.exe |
| 04:03.05 | par | you have to have the PRI cab installed on the device first |
| 04:03.40 | tmzt | ah |
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| 04:06.03 | par | but when you do that it will apply its additionally packed corresponding prl (most likely |
| 04:06.17 | par | so then you need to install the latest prl also |
| 04:06.28 | par | or flag your phone for prl ota update |
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| 05:12.49 | par | well i got the PRI updated |
| 05:13.12 | par | but the prl is now at 60613 |
| 05:13.25 | par | so i called in to have an ota done to upgrade me to the latest prl |
| 05:14.00 | par | if all else fails i grabbed 60650 and i can manually upgrade it if OTA doesn't come through |
| 05:14.24 | tmzt | wiht **775? |
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| 05:30.46 | par | yes |
| 05:30.51 | par | you just need to know your MSL |
| 05:31.10 | par | you can use BAFMSL GRabber (tm) |
| 05:31.14 | par | lol |
| 05:31.22 | par | works on all CDMA HTC's |
| 05:31.23 | par | http://www.baf.cc/bafmsl |
| 05:31.49 | tmzt | verizon uses 000000 |
| 05:32.26 | par | so does sprint |
| 05:32.49 | tmzt | really? only on htc's? |
| 05:34.38 | par | hahhaa! i have 6 sats! |
| 05:34.59 | tmzt | cool |
| 05:35.10 | tmzt | are you roaming now? |
| 05:37.08 | par | no, |
| 05:37.24 | tmzt | I mean does it say you are |
| 05:37.27 | par | that problem only happens for people who swap carriers |
| 05:37.37 | par | i have a sprint branded vogue on sprint |
| 05:38.06 | par | the roaming thing happens to people who recode a sprint branded phone for use on vzw |
| 05:38.24 | par | cool, this has me within 20 meters |
| 05:44.45 | par | i hate all these carrier specific files |
| 05:44.55 | par | i'm glad its all complete now |
| 05:45.24 | par | on the linux side this isn't something that usually get addressed because its covered on the windows side |
| 05:46.46 | tmzt | we still need an rpc to activate it I thikn |
| 05:46.51 | tmzt | not sure if dzo has that on not |
| 05:47.12 | par | i'm booting androud v1.1 |
| 05:47.12 | tmzt | if it's active you might try cat /dev/smd27 in linux |
| 05:47.19 | par | now everything should be fine in it |
| 05:47.50 | tmzt | you can use this image: tinderbox.dev.gentoo.org/embedded/linwizard/msm-* if you don't want to use android |
| 05:47.53 | tmzt | for that |
| 05:48.12 | dzo | no, gps doesn't work. |
| 05:48.51 | tmzt | dzo: par has the prl fix to make it work in windows |
| 05:48.53 | par | kthx dzo |
| 05:49.13 | dzo | it does lots of rpcs, it's possible that the userspace driver could be made to work if we make a librpc to interface with our rpc but the api may be different. |
| 05:49.13 | par | we been mumblin around it for hours |
| 05:49.33 | tmzt | but if it's the qualcomm api I wouldn't waste the time |
| 05:50.01 | tmzt | huh, doesn't android use rpc direct from apps? |
| 05:50.18 | tmzt | par: what gps application are you using and how is it configured? |
| 05:50.29 | tmzt | is it using a serial port in settings? |
| 05:50.32 | par | just google maps |
| 05:51.06 | tmzt | in windows settings? |
| 05:51.18 | par | i think its using 0 |
| 05:51.22 | dzo | par: most people here have gsm devices, they probably don't even know whart a prl is! |
| 05:51.58 | tmzt | maejrep, par, you and I have cdma |
| 05:52.14 | tmzt | and Astain |
| 05:53.34 | swc|666 | is 2.6.21-hh20 still the newest kernel for the BA? |
| 05:53.49 | tmzt | for now, is that asic3_mmc device? |
| 05:54.38 | par | tmzt: gps is being managed by windows.. not sure what it defaults too.. could be com0 tho |
| 05:54.42 | swc|666 | yes i believe so |
| 05:55.25 | par | swc|666: haven't there been some updates since hh20? |
| 05:55.34 | tmzt | well, ph5 is working on a driver for that |
| 05:55.48 | tmzt | with it it should be possible to use upstream kernel |
| 05:55.50 | par | i dunno, i haven't worked on the ba in forever.. i got the vogue so i've been spending a bit of time with it |
| 05:55.51 | swc|666 | par, i just pulled the cvs from hh.org... = hh20 |
| 06:10.52 | swc|666 | grrr... just remember the p.o.s. doesnt support sdhc |
| 06:10.53 | swc|666 | :s |
| 06:11.54 | par | ;) |
| 06:14.21 | tmzt | swc|666: it should, that's a software issue in most cases |
| 06:14.39 | par | software? the algorithm is entirely different |
| 06:16.54 | par | i had to laugh i saw someone was trying on the apache |
| 06:17.17 | par | and he kept saying that he got it working once and then it froze every time thereafter |
| 06:17.26 | tmzt | but it's not hardware |
| 06:17.32 | tmzt | that's what I mean by software |
| 06:17.51 | tmzt | for instace, the e200 sansa firmware doesn't support sdhc but rockbox does on the same device |
| 06:18.20 | par | so you're saying the controller that handles sd and sdio doesn't have an preprogrammed alogorithm for sd versus sdhc? |
| 06:19.15 | par | so you seem to think the algorithm is somewhere outside of the hardware that you can touch? |
| 06:20.03 | par | i really doubt it or only in special cases maybe |
| 06:20.31 | tmzt | right, it's just different CMDs |
| 06:20.40 | tmzt | so you're saying the controller that handles sd and sdio doesn't have an preprogrammed alogorithm for sd versus sdhc? |
| 06:20.44 | tmzt | that |
| 06:21.06 | tmzt | except sdio is hardware dependant for things like 4bit io and dma |
| 06:21.17 | par | why would it be able to handle a standard that wasn't even a blink in its momma's eye when it was developed? |
| 06:22.12 | tmzt | because the standard is just different commands on the same electrical bus |
| 06:22.28 | tmzt | it's like CMD17 instead of CMD5 or something like that |
| 06:23.00 | tmzt | it's like saying how can my ethernet port be used for Appletalk as well as TCP/IP |
| 06:23.36 | par | oh, i always thought it physical incapabale |
| 06:24.06 | tmzt | it might be, if too much of the stack is in hardware |
| 06:24.20 | par | right, it depends what kind of trade off they did |
| 06:24.53 | par | so far i'm inclined to believe thats a problem |
| 06:25.25 | par | but i really don't know.. i don't see people doing it tho |
| 06:26.11 | par | have you seen it done? |
| 06:26.16 | par | you mentioned some firmware |
| 06:27.07 | tmzt | yeah, rockbox.org |
| 06:27.25 | tmzt | as well as on my q, wm5 doesn't support sdhc but linux does |
| 06:27.28 | par | and they do that on newer devloped equipment or older? |
| 06:27.43 | par | well q is a newer device |
| 06:27.51 | par | compare it to something from 2005 for example |
| 06:27.53 | par | or 2003 |
| 06:28.12 | tmzt | whenever Sansa e200v1 came out |
| 06:28.31 | tmzt | the q just uses pxa27x pxa-mci |
| 06:32.16 | par | wow thats awesome for linux then |
| 06:32.43 | par | especially if there is some generic firmware that come around that could be used with it |
| 06:33.00 | par | it'd bring life to otherwise dead hardware |
| 06:35.12 | par | maybe San would know |
| 06:35.22 | par | he works with these ttheipiratpe of drivers a lot i think |
| 06:35.29 | par | haha |
| 06:35.47 | par | he works with these types of driver |
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| 06:40.05 | tmzt | generic firmware? |
| 06:40.09 | tmzt | what do you mean? |
| 06:41.12 | par | well hopefully not to need firmware |
| 06:41.43 | tmzt | for what? |
| 06:41.48 | par | if you look at the firmware list that a standard distribution carries for compatibility |
| 06:41.57 | par | theres lots there |
| 06:42.11 | par | lot of it isn't the proprietary portion |
| 06:42.11 | tmzt | yea, most of these devices don't need firmware though |
| 06:42.43 | tmzt | the linux mmc stack supports sdhc, if the device can support it it should work in linux |
| 06:42.48 | par | so it looks like that rhapsody was out in in 2006 |
| 06:42.55 | tmzt | ask pH5 to be sure |
| 06:42.58 | par | did the v1 come after the rhapsody? |
| 06:43.04 | tmzt | rhapsody is the same hardware as v1 |
| 06:44.45 | par | thats good then, chances are most of the devices use common sd hardware |
| 06:45.01 | tmzt | yes |
| 06:45.52 | par | is the rockbox any good? |
| 06:46.10 | tmzt | yes, it's better than what came on the sansa |
| 06:46.25 | tmzt | games, sdhc, filebrowser, playlists, etc. |
| 06:47.45 | par | coool |
| 06:51.44 | par | firmwre upgrade is only for v1 not rhapsody tho |
| 06:52.52 | par | anyway, that would be awesome if it were possible to get the sd in the ba to handle sdhc cards |
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| 06:59.45 | par | wow finding it on more devices now |
| 07:00.17 | par | the pentax K100D camera was firmware upgradeable to sdhc also |
| 07:00.27 | par | wahooo! |
| 07:00.31 | par | thats cool |
| 07:03.54 | par | looks like its all going back only 3 years tho |
| 07:06.28 | par | heh found people griping about dell not doing it for the axim |
| 07:06.57 | par | linux will be great for end of life products |
| 07:08.52 | par | looks like Roland released a firmware update for one of their wav/mp3 recorders as well. |
| 07:25.36 | par | means i'll be carrying around a knoppix bootflash with any sdhc cards i may carry |
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| 07:39.12 | tmzt | how will that help? |
| 07:40.24 | par | if i find myself on a system that has an older sd card slot |
| 07:41.23 | par | i'll be able to access the sdhc filesystem under linux and copy what i need off to the native partition for use |
| 07:41.42 | par | even though the native |
| 07:42.03 | par | OS might not have an sdhc driver for the sd card hardware |
| 07:42.45 | par | wow, i better get to sleep i'll catch ya later.. thanks for clueing me in on th advance |
| 07:43.42 | tmzt | what kind of system? |
| 07:44.06 | tmzt | it would have to be a mmc host, not usb |
| 07:44.18 | tmzt | if the usb mmc/sd reader doesn't support sdhc it won't work |
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| 11:33.26 | kri5 | hello there |
| 11:33.38 | tmzt | hello |
| 11:35.55 | kri5 | any news about blackstone support? |
| 11:36.25 | tmzt | not really |
| 11:41.05 | kri5 | ok |
| 11:41.13 | kri5 | just wanted to know |
| 11:41.20 | kri5 | i'm following the news about it |
| 11:41.42 | kri5 | i'd like to contribute, but i do really have no time for that :/ |
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| 11:52.48 | tmzt | what specifically are you asking about? |
| 11:53.06 | tmzt | the problem here is no one doing development has one I think |
| 11:53.31 | tmzt | but the other devices are very similar and as they get better supported, blak can as well |
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| 12:35.51 | Djoef | Hi, Is it hard to install a linux version on a htc prohet phone ? |
| 12:36.20 | tmzt | prophet? |
| 12:36.29 | tmzt | is that omap or pxa? |
| 12:36.54 | Djoef | dunno W8 http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Prophet |
| 12:37.07 | Djoef | omap |
| 12:37.07 | Djoef | :) |
| 12:37.16 | tmzt | ah, #linwizard might have something |
| 12:37.21 | tmzt | noone there right now though |
| 12:37.44 | tmzt | you can try the 0.2 release on it, it that works it can be made to work with something else |
| 12:37.56 | tmzt | if not, we need to add the omapfb settings at the least |
| 12:38.21 | Djoef | k |
| 12:38.38 | Djoef | where can i find some info about the 0.2 release ? |
| 12:39.15 | tmzt | linwizard.sf.net |
| 12:41.11 | Djoef | thanks |
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| 13:15.56 | Untouchab1e | Good afternoon! |
| 13:17.44 | tmzt | hello |
| 13:18.23 | Untouchab1e | hi |
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| 13:56.24 | kri5 | tmzt: i heard that blackstone hardware differs a bit, so that drivers for other phone do not work on it :/ |
| 13:56.38 | tmzt | yeah, but not that much |
| 13:56.45 | tmzt | what are you refering to? |
| 13:57.05 | kri5 | tmzt: what i have read from hear and xda-dev forums |
| 13:57.22 | kri5 | tmzt: from here* |
| 13:57.43 | tmzt | probably ce stuff then |
| 14:12.24 | kri5 | don't remember, i think it was some kind of chipset that differs from other phones |
| 14:12.32 | kri5 | maybe the radio chipset |
| 14:13.12 | kri5 | because if i remember well, the problem is that sound in call does not work |
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| 15:50.22 | Vegita | mornin |
| 15:52.03 | Vegita | does som1 know where is the arm symbian UIQ sony ericcson phones (p990, p1 etc) boot from storage card option? |
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| 17:33.51 | dcordes | Vegita, what do you mean, boot from storage card option? |
| 17:34.01 | Vegita | yup |
| 17:34.07 | Vegita | in symbian uiq SE devices |
| 17:35.24 | dcordes | hm no clue about symbian bootloader |
| 17:36.05 | dcordes | you want to boot linux kernel from within symbian? |
| 17:38.56 | Vegita | yup |
| 17:39.03 | Vegita | I gon try arm gentoo |
| 17:39.15 | Vegita | hoping that it willee it's wlan |
| 17:39.20 | Vegita | *see |
| 17:39.43 | Vegita | and with htcs, which is the boot from storage card option? |
| 17:44.49 | dcordes | apt, wtf haret_ |
| 17:44.55 | dcordes | geee |
| 17:45.28 | dcordes | Vegita, http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HaRET |
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| 18:42.17 | mickey|zzZZzz | anyone got his patches for ppp?` |
| 18:43.06 | dcordes | not me |
| 18:43.39 | dcordes | did you receive the tmzt patches for cdma>frameworkd ? |
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| 19:31.03 | mickey|zzZZzz | dcordes: no, got no patches yet |
| 19:31.17 | mickey|zzZZzz | cr2: ping! |
| 19:31.23 | mickey|zzZZzz | cr2: can i has your patches for ppp/umts? |
| 19:32.28 | dcordes | lolspeak! |
| 19:32.52 | Dunedan | Eigentlich könnte man hier auch einfach deutsch sprechen. *hust* |
| 19:33.07 | dcordes | tmzt, can you give mickey|zzZZzz your framework patches? |
| 19:33.13 | dcordes | Dunedan, no |
| 19:33.23 | mickey|zzZZzz | niemals :D |
| 19:37.23 | cr2 | Dunedan: it was the same at the beginning of this channel, but we agreed on english, so everybody can read and learn from the logs. |
| 19:37.41 | cr2 | dcordes: i'll create the diff now. |
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| 19:50.16 | cr2 | dcordes: https://privatepaste.com/65SQ9vdow1 |
| 19:51.28 | dcordes | cr2, what's the shortlog description? |
| 19:51.29 | kiozen | hi cr2 |
| 19:51.41 | kiozen | just noticed complex c libs suck |
| 19:51.53 | kiozen | playing with libexpat |
| 19:51.56 | kiozen | no |
| 19:51.59 | kiozen | libexif |
| 19:52.01 | cr2 | dcordes: and rfkill patch https://privatepaste.com/fd1ouvMK04 |
| 19:52.22 | cr2 | kiozen: x=1+4*I; |
| 19:52.31 | cr2 | i really liked it about gcc :) |
| 19:52.37 | dcordes | good |
| 19:53.14 | cr2 | dcordes: rfkill is a bit braindead, but at least one can poweron on module insert. |
| 19:53.21 | cr2 | for testing |
| 19:53.35 | cr2 | the ttyHS1 has other problems to be resolved first |
| 19:54.21 | cr2 | i think that for sound we need to create a clean dzo-vogue/google patch first. |
| 19:54.54 | cr2 | i think that the differences with raph would be minimal (rpc, not dex) |
| 19:55.49 | cr2 | don't know why dzo writes about "many" rpc calls for gps. i see only one: pdsm_get_location() |
| 19:57.00 | cr2 | the camera rpc calls are different (params, not the PROG), that's true. |
| 19:57.17 | cr2 | don't know how to enable the small cam |
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| 19:57.36 | cr2 | on universal it was trivial, just press the 'video call' button |
| 19:57.41 | dcordes | I wonder about the htc-vogue vs google branch situation |
| 19:58.06 | cr2 | it needs core 7x00 support |
| 19:58.17 | cr2 | which is not really vogue-specific |
| 19:59.16 | cr2 | and to use the sane htc-egpio driver by pH5, instead of the google NIH driver ;) |
| 19:59.20 | cr2 | hi tsdogs |
| 19:59.43 | dcordes | NIH ? |
| 20:00.10 | cr2 | tsdogs: i've compiled roadmap for raph, and the map. it's amazing, and it even autodetects the gps port and works. |
| 20:00.12 | mickeyl | NIH not invented here |
| 20:00.17 | cr2 | NotInventedHere |
| 20:00.26 | dcordes | ah ok |
| 20:01.10 | dcordes | cr2, http://pastebin.ca/1434234 |
| 20:01.27 | pH5 | wow, somebody wrote "sane" right next to "htc-egpio". |
| 20:02.06 | cr2 | pH5: if you'll look at the g1 driver ... |
| 20:03.49 | cr2 | pH5: i had no problem to bundle 2 htc-egpio drivers for 2 chips. i'll pull the hair out to do that with other cpld drivers ;) |
| 20:04.41 | cr2 | dcordes: different .config ? |
| 20:05.27 | cr2 | dcordes: then the rfkill code needs a Kconfig option and a dependency. |
| 20:05.29 | dcordes | cr2, I used htcraphael_defconfig (no modification) |
| 20:05.36 | cr2 | i told you it's a bit braindead. |
| 20:05.51 | cr2 | should i paste my config ? |
| 20:06.03 | cr2 | fyi, i use nand. |
| 20:06.36 | dcordes | yea go ahead |
| 20:06.45 | dcordes | how did you figure the nand table? |
| 20:06.57 | cr2 | and there are some questions for google about msm_nand.c |
| 20:07.28 | dcordes | ~seen swetland |
| 20:07.31 | apt | swetland <n=swetland@nat/google/x-f87b65f208eda3f2> was last seen on IRC in channel #htc-linux, 104d 15h 47m 18s ago, saying: 'engineering verification test'. |
| 20:07.31 | cr2 | the wince part is a bit uncertain, there are 2 partitions now. |
| 20:07.39 | dcordes | ~seen SanMehat |
| 20:07.40 | apt | sanmehat <n=san@nat/google/x-87831aaa828ad288> was last seen on IRC in channel #htc-linux, 16d 6h 12m 9s ago, saying: 'yeah'. |
| 20:07.56 | cr2 | tmzt said San is ill |
| 20:08.25 | dcordes | something serious? hope he recovers quickly |
| 20:08.32 | cr2 | don't know. |
| 20:10.16 | cr2 | dcordes: https://privatepaste.com/b71E2BqhYX |
| 20:10.30 | cr2 | dcordes: the raph nand layout is documented in wiki |
| 20:11.19 | cr2 | dcordes: and the absolute offset is 36MB, i've learnned that from itsutils |
| 20:12.01 | cr2 | the _brave_ can map the amss/oemsbl in the first 36MB too. |
| 20:12.09 | cr2 | but i'm not brave :) |
| 20:13.17 | dcordes | what about nand master dream_kill ? |
| 20:13.19 | cr2 | dcordes: maybe the partition can be declared on the kernel cmdline |
| 20:13.51 | cr2 | but i'm using patched haret to add the nand tags as googel expects them |
| 20:14.16 | cr2 | dream_kill told some bs about nand. i can even grep the logs |
| 20:15.04 | cr2 | that's why i only trust the open source tools. like itsutils :) |
| 20:17.10 | dcordes | CONFIG_MSM_SMD_7500=y in your config |
| 20:17.47 | cr2 | i didn't enable it manually |
| 20:17.54 | cr2 | must be something from maejrep |
| 20:18.17 | dcordes | ok what about the bluetooth part? should we use it in the defconfig? |
| 20:18.21 | cr2 | since we share the zimage with raph800 maybe it's needed |
| 20:18.27 | dcordes | I suggest not to add mtd/nand in the defconfig |
| 20:18.41 | dcordes | ok then I will add it |
| 20:19.07 | cr2 | create the rapahel_angstrom_defconfig |
| 20:19.39 | cr2 | dcordes: at least it works with this setup |
| 20:19.52 | cr2 | works for me (tm) |
| 20:20.40 | dcordes | good I will first update the htcraphael_defconfig though |
| 20:20.48 | cr2 | ok |
| 20:21.04 | cr2 | we don't want the android people to blow their nand |
| 20:21.28 | cr2 | but i guess it's not going to happen, because they need a patched haret first. |
| 20:21.35 | Vegita | [17:57] <Vegita> does som1 know where is the arm symbian UIQ sony ericcson phones (p990, p1 etc) boot from storage card option? |
| 20:21.53 | Vegita | hi all btw |
| 20:22.35 | cr2 | Vegita: it's htc (death_to_wince) channel, we don't know a damn about symbian |
| 20:22.52 | Vegita | okthanks |
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| 20:23.07 | dcordes | cr2, so in order to have nand working you use a patched haret I take it? |
| 20:23.13 | Vegita | and may anhtc touch pro run kde4 with kwin? |
| 20:23.24 | cr2 | Vegita: you need to know some security holes in symbian to boot linux. |
| 20:23.33 | Vegita | thanks |
| 20:23.39 | Vegita | I'll find.) |
| 20:23.57 | cr2 | Vegita: since wince is a security hole in itself, it was never a problem for us. |
| 20:24.24 | cr2 | dcordes: yes. |
| 20:24.30 | Vegita | yes,ut is he 528mhz arm enough forit? |
| 20:24.35 | Vegita | *but |
| 20:24.39 | Vegita | for the kde4? |
| 20:24.42 | Vegita | and the ram? |
| 20:24.51 | cr2 | dcordes: i don't have write access to hh.org haret CVS, so pinging Kevin2 is the only option |
| 20:24.52 | Vegita | as kde4 on my pc eats 800mb ram |
| 20:25.09 | dcordes | cr2, what about moving haret entirely to linuxtogo ? |
| 20:25.22 | cr2 | Vegita: raph100 has 256MB ram |
| 20:25.29 | Vegita | yes |
| 20:25.49 | dcordes | cr2, and clone the doku to htc-linux.org/wiki |
| 20:25.51 | cr2 | dcordes: well, do it. |
| 20:25.54 | Vegita | so you remmend xfce or gnome or kde3 for it... |
| 20:26.01 | Vegita | kde4 is hard for that |
| 20:26.18 | cr2 | Vegita: there is qtopia |
| 20:26.28 | Vegita | qtopia? |
| 20:26.37 | cr2 | aka qt4-based gui for the phones |
| 20:26.40 | Vegita | apt, wtf qtopia |
| 20:26.45 | cr2 | yeah, 0wned by nokia now |
| 20:26.57 | Vegita | thanks |
| 20:26.57 | cr2 | qtopia is qtextended now, i think |
| 20:27.07 | Vegita | I'll check bout |
| 20:27.14 | cr2 | http://www.qtextended.org |
| 20:28.02 | cr2 | kiozen: need rootfs for armv6 now :) |
| 20:28.31 | cr2 | kiozen: but i still compile the kernel with the qtopia toolchain |
| 20:28.53 | kiozen | i use the one from oe |
| 20:29.24 | cr2 | kiozen: i hate to repartiton the sd card |
| 20:29.48 | dcordes | cr2, I saved your config as htcraphael_defconfig_angstrom only adding "CONFIG_FB_MSM_REFRESH=y" |
| 20:29.50 | cr2 | kiozen: Kevin2 has written some tools to mount -o loop rootfs off the fat |
| 20:30.22 | dcordes | cr2, the normal config has everything but nand/mtd refresh |
| 20:30.25 | cr2 | dcordes: ok, let somebody check it |
| 20:31.14 | cr2 | dcordes: we will return to the refresh eventually. after merging the qualcomm mdp/tvenc code. |
| 20:32.40 | mickeyl | qtopia is actually dead |
| 20:32.49 | mickeyl | as is qtextended |
| 20:32.58 | mickeyl | only qt/e is still being worked on |
| 20:34.01 | cr2 | mickeyl: it's the qt4 api that matters. |
| 20:34.33 | cr2 | mickeyl: tried the umts already ? |
| 20:34.47 | mickeyl | no, i'm waiting until dcordes commits |
| 20:34.58 | cr2 | dcordes: ? |
| 20:35.20 | dcordes | mickeyl, can you try a build first? |
| 20:35.23 | dcordes | zImage just finished |
| 20:35.48 | mickeyl | put it somewhere, i'll be able to test in 30 minutes |
| 20:35.56 | mickeyl | brb |
| 20:36.21 | dcordes | ok good |
| 20:36.39 | cr2 | dcordes: where is the tiacx driver of maejrep ? |
| 20:36.54 | cr2 | dcordes: i think it only missed the firmware loader. |
| 20:37.13 | dcordes | DJWillis, has the firmware loader available |
| 20:37.27 | dcordes | let me see where the patch is |
| 20:37.33 | cr2 | probably i should document the loader first. |
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| 20:44.17 | dcordes | mickeyl, http://linuxtogo.org/~lgorris/builds/kernel/raphael/zImage-htcraphael-20092505-00 I must warn you. it's build with raphael_angstrom_defconfig which has nand |
| 20:44.29 | dcordes | I'll put the entire diff |
| 20:45.20 | cr2 | dcordes: maybe i'd upload my linload.exe ? |
| 20:46.20 | dcordes | why not. but I can't use it to verify function of my local changes |
| 20:46.27 | dcordes | never built a linload.exe |
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| 20:50.26 | dcordes | bbiab |
| 21:03.36 | tmzt | cr2: dcordes: no, San is ok, some kind of anti-smoking drug nothing serious at all |
| 21:04.02 | cr2 | ok |
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| 21:07.38 | tmzt | cr2: the nand kernel, you are saying there is not a possibliity of erasing nand without the atags? |
| 21:08.59 | cr2 | tmzt: without partition info there are not partitions. if you will dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/mtd0 bs=2048 you may destroy the spl ;) |
| 21:09.29 | cr2 | but the amss ans oemsbl will stay untouched. |
| 21:10.12 | cr2 | with he serial console on extusb you may even recover something |
| 21:10.24 | tmzt | but the android setup will mount the partition as yaffs, if it's the wrong partition it can destroy spl, etc. |
| 21:10.33 | tmzt | yeah, but few have the cable |
| 21:12.24 | rzk_ | hm, can we boot angstrom linux with qtextended instread of android? |
| 21:12.34 | rzk_ | just for test |
| 21:13.56 | tmzt | have you built a qt/e image? |
| 21:14.25 | tmzt | mickeyl: do you have the http:// git url for frameworkd? |
| 21:15.15 | stefan_schmidt | tmzt: http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=framework.git;a=summary |
| 21:16.36 | tmzt | clonable |
| 21:17.55 | rzk_ | tmzt: no, im just wonder to know is it possible to build something whith GUI and make it work on htc devices instread of android |
| 21:18.17 | rzk_ | will it be hard to build qtextended? |
| 21:18.29 | tmzt | I'm not working with qt, I'm working with efl and e17/illume from fso |
| 21:18.32 | tmzt | no idea |
| 21:21.20 | stefan_schmidt | tmzt: For the Q that is? |
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| 21:22.16 | tmzt | no, for msm devices, touch pro |
| 21:22.36 | tmzt | not sure if the q has enough ram yet, and it's not adapted for no touchscreen |
| 21:22.38 | rzk_ | all msm? |
| 21:22.51 | tmzt | I also don't no the mux protocol so the phone won't work |
| 21:23.00 | tmzt | rzk_: what do you mean? |
| 21:23.09 | stefan_schmidt | tmzt: ah, ok. |
| 21:23.13 | rzk_ | all msm devices? |
| 21:23.51 | tmzt | I need the clonable url for framework.git to integrate my cdma patches for mickeyl |
| 21:24.12 | stefan_schmidt | tmzt: mickeyl is poking me all the time to think about the diamond touch |
| 21:24.37 | stefan_schmidt | tmzt: that's easy: git://git.freesmartphone.org/framework.git |
| 21:24.42 | tmzt | I need to see if the ophonekitd patches are necessary to, those are not very clean |
| 21:24.45 | tmzt | ok, thanks |
| 21:25.02 | tmzt | but hopefully not needed now that CFUN doesn't trigger the sim pin |
| 21:26.09 | tmzt | diamond is very similar, progress is pretty good on these now with cr2, we're still waiting for maejrep to come back (in some sense) |
| 21:29.23 | stefan_schmidt | tmzt: blocker are sound and charging for me. wif, bt, etc can wait longer. |
| 21:30.30 | rzk_ | tmzt: and what about older msm devices? such as kaiser, niki, polaris |
| 21:30.40 | rzk_ | have niki |
| 21:30.56 | tmzt | try the htc-vogue tree |
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| 21:37.51 | tmzt | mickeyl: okay, somethings in abstract/modem.py have changed, should I try to reincorporate my changes in abstractcdma/modem.py or use the version I've already modified |
| 21:38.03 | cr2 | rzk_: there is qtopia image for universal |
| 21:39.24 | cr2 | rzk_: kiozen has his standalone qpe program M, maybe it's worth to try. |
| 21:40.13 | rzk_ | where can i find this? |
| 21:44.55 | cr2 | http://www.linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcuniversal/index.html |
| 21:45.26 | cr2 | http://qlandkarte.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=8&Itemid=8 |
| 21:46.14 | cr2 | looks like that (also a vga screen) |
| 21:46.17 | cr2 | http://qlandkarte.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=7&Itemid=9 |
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| 21:53.56 | rzk_ | thanx, i will try. |
| 22:03.00 | dcordes | mickeyl, works? |
| 22:09.55 | dream_kill | hi guys |
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| 22:50.48 | mickeyl | dcordes: no |
| 22:50.59 | mickeyl | dcordes: boots and such, but no ppp |
| 22:51.08 | mickeyl | same problem as before, can't negotiate ipcmp |
| 22:51.12 | mickeyl | ipcp, that is |
| 22:51.56 | mickeyl | klt::lcd-backlight still broken, btw. |
| 22:53.09 | tmzt | mickeyl: okay, somethings in abstract/modem.py have changed, should I try to reincorporate my changes in abstractcdma/modem.py or use the version I've already modified |
| 22:53.46 | tmzt | oh |
| 22:54.16 | tmzt | pppd /dev/smd1 noauth local debug nodetach |
| 22:55.07 | tmzt | do you get any response att all? |
| 22:55.09 | mickeyl | tmzt: hard to tell, how ios abstractcdma/modem.py differing from the abstract modem? |
| 22:55.28 | mickeyl | tmzt: yes, same as before. i get some NACKs and then the context deattaches |
| 22:55.57 | mickeyl | tmzt: I'd say just send me some patches and i'll figure out how to abstract :) |
| 22:56.16 | tmzt | oh, about the same |
| 22:56.28 | tmzt | let me do that then |
| 22:59.27 | tmzt | mediator changes consist of comenting out the sim logic |
| 23:01.33 | dcordes | mickeyl, all changes from cr2 should be present in the zImage |
| 23:01.45 | mickeyl | hmm, k |
| 23:01.56 | mickeyl | i'll build my own kernel tomorrow and have a more detailed |
| 23:01.57 | mickeyl | look |
| 23:19.02 | dcordes | mickey|zzZZzz, here's the patch http://privatepaste.com/a6c91wMB50 |
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