IRC log for #htc-linux on 20091215

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02:18.26YellowGTO|NixWowzers
02:18.27YellowGTO|NixLook at all of them netsplits
02:18.27Battousaithanks for flying freenode
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03:05.18YellowGTO|NixHow goes it AstainHelbring
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03:05.36YellowGTO|NixNothing
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03:05.37YellowGTO|NixOn the 3rd chapter of "The Art of Unix Programing"
03:05.37YellowGTO|NixStupid netsplits keep distracting me
03:05.37AstainHellbringlol
03:05.37AstainHellbringfarts
03:05.38YellowGTO|NixWhats is the LG Vu Wine?
03:06.44AstainHellbringdunno
03:07.06YellowGTO|NixHave you ever read the book?
03:07.16AstainHellbringno
03:07.42YellowGTO|NixOh I switched IRC Clients
03:07.50AstainHellbring?
03:07.53YellowGTO|NixBut this one doesn't have spellchecking :-(
03:07.59YellowGTO|NixSo I might switch back
03:08.06YellowGTO|NixQuassel
03:08.11YellowGTO|NixIts pretty good
03:08.24AstainHellbringi liked xchat
03:08.35YellowGTO|NixXchat for windows rocks
03:08.40YellowGTO|NixNot so much for linux
03:09.30YellowGTO|NixI can't figureout how to get the User list to show up as a window
03:09.30YellowGTO|NixIts a button that opens up another windows
03:09.30YellowGTO|Nix*window
03:16.19YellowGTO|NixWhats an IPC?
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04:32.16defendthecommonsgreetings... working in Brazil on an Tytn II and a Kaiser from ATT Tilt land... wondering why my platform reads: android: HTC-sapphire-T_Mobile my Touch 3G... using system-htc-donut.sqsh
04:32.46defendthecommonsStuff seems to work (not the camera), but I'm wondering if there's a version of something that is specific to the Kaiser
04:33.34hatseflatsactually, I think I got one
04:33.37defendthecommonsanyone have exprience with Tilts and Tytns?
04:33.40tmztdefendthecommons: probably system.sqsh was taken from a magic system.img
04:33.41hatseflats1329
04:33.50hatseflatsnext up: base ramaddr
04:34.32defendthecommonsi actually replaced the img file with this: rootfs-donutgps.img
04:35.00defendthecommonshoping to discover some good GPS advances... but I don't know where that img derived from either
04:35.04defendthecommonsDoes it matter?
04:35.23defendthecommonsThe keys seem to work ok.
04:35.53defendthecommonsIs there ever an Android screen that says: Welcome to your Kaiser Phone...
04:35.55defendthecommons?
04:36.19defendthecommons(is this the right place to be a freshman at this?)
04:38.52hatseflatsMrPippy: is there a method to finding the correct start of ram, or is it *insert best guess here* ?
04:38.57tmzthuh? there's no android for kaiser, but android can work on kaiser
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04:57.48defendthecommonswhat about CTRL-X on a Tilt keyboard?
04:59.09defendthecommonspipe = CAP Shift + left toggle button (or whatever that thing is atthe top of the keyboard with a dot in the middle)
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05:22.03tmztnoi: sorry, but I can't really support you zImages which I don't know
05:22.09tmztyou have kaiser?
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06:09.19tmztpossibly a missing module offset
06:09.19tmzttoumei: not at all, those use an AT command
06:09.19toumeiok.. the transmission of those is very flaky is why I was asking
06:09.19toumeimakes sense they aren't related
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06:18.26toumeiwas haret used to identify all the memory locations that are listed on the wiki?
06:19.20toumeiI thought perhaps redoing that would be helpful for me to understand haret if that is how it was generated.  Unless there is a better way to look into why things such as the mic aren't working.
06:21.06makkonenI'd love to give direction or help, but I've only been doing this for a few weeks. I've poked at GPIOs with HaRET, but that's as far as I've gotten with it.
06:21.44toumeino worries :).  I just don't want to head down a path that is useless is all
06:22.28toumeinothing worse than wasting time.  So hopefully I am not wasting everyone else's time
06:23.37toumeimakkonen: I was reading the log and it looked like you were figuring out which lines in the smd_rpcrouter.c file caused the raph800 to not work.  Were you successful at figuring it out?
06:23.53toumeiI think it was you that said that..
06:24.01makkonenyeah
06:24.21makkonenI thought I had it all cleaned up. Then I realized a bunch more changes had been committed to smd.c, so there's more to do.
06:25.16makkonenbut there's just 2 (missing) lines in smd_rpcrouter that are causing the crashes.
06:25.21toumeiah.  the diff showed many lines so it scared me :)
06:25.38makkonenme too. eventually I dove in and figured it out.
06:25.54makkonentrying to find the line numbers, but my virtual is compiling android at the moment, so it's a bit sluggish. :-)
06:26.02toumeiglad you found that.  it has been driving me nuts for a long time
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06:30.57toumeiis there any method to tell if the phone is on xRTT or EVDO?  I dont think the 3g icon is conclusive
06:33.51YellowGTO|NixxRRT?
06:33.58makkonentoumei: http://pastebin.com/d28f27a11
06:34.09toumeierr whatever the slow speed network that sprint has is called .. sorry
06:34.31makkonenfor the rpcrouter stuff. that should be the diff against the latest source. I hope. or else I'm an idiot. (always possible.)
06:34.49toumeirofl
06:35.13YellowGTO|NixDoesn't it say EVDO in the corner?
06:35.44makkonen1xRTT, I think. I don't know if there's any way to determine it. I've noticed my icon in android fall back to E (for EDGE), but I think at that point I'd actually lost data entirely and it was just confused.
06:35.47YellowGTO|Nix1xrrt
06:36.20YellowGTO|NixI would imagine there is some kind of network tool
06:36.28YellowGTO|NixTo see what network you are connect to
06:36.32YellowGTO|NixToumei what phone?
06:36.41YellowGTO|NixWM, Android?
06:36.58toumeiandroid raph800
06:37.36YellowGTO|NixOh. You want to see what network you are connect to in the Android port on the TP?
06:37.40toumeimy phone won't sync right now. I think it is because the slower network is blocking it by being too slow
06:37.40toumeiyes
06:38.05YellowGTO|NixHm
06:38.12toumeijust trying to diagnose if that is my real issue with the sync..
06:39.01toumeinot a big deal really.. I would rather figure out why the mic doesnt work :)
06:39.12YellowGTO|NixWell
06:39.20YellowGTO|NixI don't know of an app
06:39.22toumeimakonnen: thanks for the diff.. I am trying to figure out how to get it into a format that the patch command will accept it
06:39.25YellowGTO|NixBut you could try mobilespeedtest.net
06:39.32YellowGTO|NixAnd see how slow it is
06:39.37toumeiok.  I might give that a whirl
06:40.04toumeimakonnen: nm I might just patch it manually :).. not that many lines in your diff
06:40.33YellowGTO|NixStill no Mic support for the Android on CDMA TP?
06:40.37makkonenyeah. it seems like git diff should produce nice easy to patch diffs... but I'm not entirely clear on how to use them.
06:41.11makkonenit's only 2 commented out lines that need to be uncommented, if you're not trying to make it pretty and work across all devices.
06:41.46toumeiYellowGTO: I havent had any luck.  I was trying to learn how to investigate why it doesnt work..
06:43.07YellowGTO|NixHas anyone gotten it to work?
06:43.49toumeiYellowGTO: I do not believe so
06:44.03YellowGTO|NixI'm learning C to try and help the porting but i'm not there yet so I prob wont be much help to CDMA devices anyway
06:45.47toumeigood luck to you.  It is useful to know for sure
06:46.08YellowGTO|NixI had andorid working pretty decent on my Raph 110
06:46.15YellowGTO|NixBut i have since upgraded phones
06:46.56YellowGTO|NixPhone, Interenet, Text, BT, Wifi
06:47.15toumeiGSM ?
06:47.39toumeiI cant seem to get BT working on my raph800 either.  no big deal right now though
06:47.57YellowGTO|NixYeah Raph 110 is ATT Fuze
06:48.30YellowGTO|NixI think they have not even got haret running on the TP2 yet though
06:48.45toumeiI had better not break my TP then :)
06:49.06YellowGTO|NixHave you used the Tp2?
06:49.10toumeino i havent
06:49.15YellowGTO|NixDude
06:49.18YellowGTO|NixScreen is amazing
06:49.26YellowGTO|NixI wasn't going to upgrade either
06:49.29toumeii am so sick of windows mobile :)
06:49.34YellowGTO|NixBut I found a used one
06:49.38YellowGTO|NixSo I snagged it up
06:49.47YellowGTO|NixSpeaker phone acutally works
06:49.49YellowGTO|NixLoL
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06:50.07YellowGTO|NixAnd it so much better to use a screen this size
06:50.09toumeii got my TP when I saw progress was being made on android/linux . might have jumped the gun a bit on that one
06:50.22YellowGTO|NixI got the TP1 the day it came out
06:50.26YellowGTO|NixGood phone
06:50.30YellowGTO|NixFlashlight app is awesome
06:50.46toumeimakonnen:  Should I have not applied that backwards patch on smd_rpcrouter before applying your patch?
06:50.50YellowGTO|NixI think I used the damn phone as a flashlight more then I did as a phone
06:51.06makkonenBT is not working on raph800. the GPIOs are not all correct, I believe.
06:51.38toumeimakkonen:  ok good to know that..
06:52.49makkonenthat patch should be done on the latest smd_rpcrouter, not the old revision.
06:55.34toumeigotcha
06:58.08makkonenI'm gonna head to bed; I'll check the log if you've got further questions. good luck. wish I could direct your somewhere on the mic... getting that working would be a big step.
06:58.28toumeiI am going to copy you on the bed thing.. 1am here
06:58.37YellowGTO|Nix2am here
06:58.40toumeiseems to have frozen at the dreaded p1 thing
06:58.55toumeiI probably missed something in the patch applicaiton
06:59.11toumeiI will double check tomorrow
06:59.39YellowGTO|NixYeah i'm hitting the sack
07:00.45toumeimakkonen: thanks again.
07:01.18toumeiwell that goes for everyone really
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11:03.44leviathan_tmzt: I'm here
11:03.47leviathan_whats up?
11:04.08leviathan_I slept 12hours
11:04.24leviathan_now I'm nearly fully regeneratet again
11:04.28leviathan_only one thing
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13:58.25defendthecommonsanyone here use a Kaiser Tilt or Tytn II?
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18:00.51tmztleviathan_: where is this tree/patches?
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18:01.00YellowGTO|Nix_Hey TMZT
18:01.17YellowGTO|Nix_I'm on chapter 4 of The Gudie to unix programing
18:01.45YellowGTO|Nix_And I was looking for a book on C to buy and all the forums I keep reading say don't waste your time with C learn C++
18:01.47tmztYellowGTO|Nix_: which tp2? haret runs fine, leo was the one with an issue
18:01.47YellowGTO|Nix_:-(
18:01.52YellowGTO|Nix_Very confusing
18:02.04YellowGTO|Nix_I use ATT Tp
18:02.43YellowGTO|Nix_So should I not listen to these people saying C is worthless in this day and age?
18:02.50tmzttp? you have tp2
18:02.57YellowGTO|Nix_Sorry
18:02.59YellowGTO|Nix_ATT Tp2
18:03.00tmztlinux kernel is entirely c
18:03.09tmztgsm only
18:03.12YellowGTO|Nix_Yeah
18:03.17tmzttry booting a topa kernel and mtype
18:03.24YellowGTO|Nix_Where can I find them?
18:03.43tmztcr2's .exe if we can find it
18:04.03tmztor build form git/gito
18:04.10tmztthe htcfb problem should be fixed now
18:04.25YellowGTO|Nix_If you can hold my hand alittle through it i'm sure i'll remember how to do it lol
18:04.39tmztokay
18:05.03tmztI'll try, don't have very long though I'm cleaning
18:05.16AstainHellbringcr2's exe's are on android.ppckitchen.org
18:05.23AstainHellbringatleast the ones he directed me at
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18:05.53YellowGTO|Nix_So Is hould get rhod100 .exe?
18:06.40YellowGTO|Nix_My TP2 says Fortress ST 7377 under the battery
18:06.45YellowGTO|Nix_Is that the 100?
18:07.25YellowGTO|Nix_Battery cover on the Tp2 is junk
18:07.43AstainHellbringits the same exe for all
18:07.49AstainHellbringhuh YellowGT0 the sprint one isnt bad
18:08.18YellowGTO|Nix_Its this flimsy thin plastic on the Tilt2
18:08.32YellowGTO|Nix_And you have to take out the stylus to get it off right
18:08.49AstainHellbringyah and the bloody reset button being under it is really lame!
18:08.52YellowGTO|Nix_Aight so I donwload Rohd100~.exe
18:09.19YellowGTO|Nix_Is that on of them rare PPC exes or do I run that on the puter?
18:09.37AstainHellbringppc exe
18:10.34YellowGTO|Nix_WTF VM is stealing the USB connection
18:10.52YellowGTO|Nix_Brb
18:12.58YellowGT0Here I go again on my own
18:14.02YellowGT0This rom is fucking with me
18:14.39GeekLad*going down the only road I've ever known*
18:15.01GeekLad*like a drifter i was born to walk alone*
18:15.03YellowGT0How the hell did you know what song I was listing to
18:15.04YellowGT0?
18:15.06GeekLadlol
18:15.19YellowGT0ARE YOU IN MY HOUSE?
18:15.35GeekLaddid you hit the play button shortly after you said YellowGT0: Here I go again on my own ?
18:15.57YellowGT0I was kidding lol
18:16.08GeekLad;)
18:16.45YellowGT0Okay
18:16.55YellowGT0I ran haret
18:17.00YellowGT0It stopped at a white screen
18:17.16YellowGT0Do I have to add somthing?
18:17.44YellowGT0imgfsToDump maybe?
18:19.09GeekLadno, haret should launch it, assuming you've got everything set up correctly w/ the startup.txt/default.txt
18:19.12makkonenthe white screen is troubles with the framebuffer. that's probably all you're going to get at this point.
18:20.04YellowGT0Yeah there is no startup.txt either
18:20.22makkonenit's rolled into the exe.
18:21.03GeekLadah ok
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19:05.16YellowGTO|NixOkay
19:05.17f22although you probably have to also put the file to extract from on the command line as well.
19:05.18YellowGTO|NixHmm
19:05.18YellowGTO|NixDo you know how it should look?
19:05.21[1]Captnoorddoesn't it have a --help
19:05.21[1]Captnoord?
19:05.24YellowGTO|NixLets try
19:05.29YellowGTO|NixIOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '--help'
19:05.33f22since it's interpreted, and just a small script, you should be able to get the sense of it by looking at its contents.
19:05.35YellowGTO|NixYeah i'm looking at it
19:05.36YellowGTO|NixI don't know jack about pyton though
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19:05.40f22hmmm...if you just type: type the command without any arguments it should give you the usage line. (i can't test it, i'm in windows 7 right now.)
19:05.41YellowGTO|NixJust
19:05.42YellowGTO|Nix./extract-bootbundle.py
19:05.43YellowGTO|Nix?
19:05.43f22yup
19:05.45YellowGTO|NixUsage:
19:05.45YellowGTO|Nix<PROTECTED>
19:05.45YellowGTO|NixMaybe
19:05.45f22yup
19:05.46YellowGTO|Nix<PROTECTED>
19:05.46f22replace <bootbundle.exe> with cr2's executable.
19:05.49YellowGTO|Nixbash: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'
19:05.50YellowGTO|NixI named the exe bootbundle2.exe
19:05.50YellowGTO|NixThen typed "./extract-bootbundle.py <bootbundle2.exe>
19:05.50YellowGTO|Nix"
19:05.52YellowGTO|NixHm
19:05.52f22you're not even getting to the python interpreter.  bash is tripping up.
19:05.53YellowGTO|Nixthen I tried it with no <>
19:05.53f22lol, you are a newb
19:05.53YellowGTO|NixAnd it said Not a Valid boot bundle
19:05.54YellowGTO|NixYeah I am
19:05.55YellowGTO|NixI know how to use Windows pretty well
19:05.56YellowGTO|NixHeh
19:06.36YellowGTO|NixHow do you get to the interpreter?
19:06.40f22you don't actually type the <>'s, you instead replace the whole thing with whatever file you're going to use.
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19:48.21YellowGTO|NixAha
19:48.23YellowGTO|NixI did it
19:49.11YellowGTO|NixIt was a broken download
19:49.39F22congratz
19:52.05YellowGTO|NixIt gav me
19:52.17YellowGTO|Nixextractharet.exe extractinitrd
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19:52.20AstainHellbringYellowGTO|Nix breaking shit again huh
19:52.31YellowGTO|Nixextractlinload.txt and extractzimage
19:52.46YellowGTO|NixLoL finally got cr2.exe extracted
19:53.29YellowGTO|NixNow how do you determin where haret is bombing?
19:54.59AstainHellbringYellowGTO|Nix waht do you mean?
19:55.06YellowGTO|NixSays handover somthing before the screen goes white
19:55.15YellowGTO|NixIs there away to start it slowly
19:55.17YellowGTO|Nix?
19:55.51YellowGTO|NixWell I can see haret doing its thing
19:56.00YellowGTO|NixBut its way to fast to see where its bombing out at
19:56.14YellowGTO|NixJust a bunch of letter fly down the screen then its white
19:57.16YellowGTO|NixLike how do I determin where the crash is at?
19:58.05AstainHellbringits bombing at the kernel
19:58.10F22<PROTECTED>
19:58.11AstainHellbringits the initalization of the lcd
19:59.10F22the lcd was what cr2 was working on before he disappeared 10 days ago.
19:59.36YellowGTO|Nixmddi.width=480 mddi.height=640 be in there?
20:00.22YellowGTO|Nix<PROTECTED>
20:00.34YellowGTO|NixOr somthing along them lines?
20:02.22YellowGTO|NixI wish this was just setup like all the other android ports
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20:05.57phhYellowGTO|Nix: mddi.* and lcd.* are useless to get kernel working
20:06.21AstainHellbringthose really are for after its booting into an os
20:06.36phhwell it's even specific to some android build
20:07.10AstainHellbringyep if not booting the right builds it will just ignore
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20:10.43YellowGTO|NixHm
20:11.13YellowGTO|NixI extracted the exe but the only thing I can get into is linload.txt
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20:11.22YellowGTO|Nixinitrd wont let me open it
20:11.46YellowGTO|NixAnd there is an extractharet.exe that doesn't do anything
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20:15.48stiltzkinHey guys. Wondering if anyone knows why android creates files named FSCK000001, 02, 03, etc every time it boots.
20:16.14stiltzkinis it fsck? and if so can't that be turned off?
20:16.41phhedit the initramfs
20:17.16phhand if you don't know how to do it, I think you'd better keep this.
20:17.16AstainHellbringYellowGTO|Nix why you so bent on extracting that exe?
20:17.21Alex[sp3dev]hey, anyone got a blac here?
20:17.49YellowGTO|NixBecause I want to study it
20:18.21AstainHellbringYellowGTO|Nix theres nothing special to it
20:18.35AstainHellbringharet exe the kernel compressed bin and the default.txt
20:18.45stiltzkinphh: yeah I don't know how to do that, but what I'm asking is why Android creates the files in the first place. They seem to be relatively pointless.
20:19.06phhstiltzkin: they are "lost files"
20:19.12Alex[sp3dev]i wonder what kind of commit could have broken kovsky.. will have to check all the changes since october
20:19.17phhmeaning they existed, but their name or part of their data was lost
20:19.20YellowGTO|NixI thought the kernel had been modified to try and work on TP2
20:19.24stiltzkinphh: like lost+found?
20:19.27phhstiltzkin: yes
20:20.05AstainHellbringYellowGT0 yah but the kernel source will show you stuff not really anything worthwhile in the bin
20:20.05phhif you know such things, you might be able to change the initramfs to your likes
20:20.12stiltzkinphh: so every time a FSCK00000X is created, it means I lost some fragmented file?
20:20.27phhstiltzkin: yes, but it can be (and is most likely) a deleted file
20:20.36phh(but I already got my data.img in it ...)
20:20.41stiltzkinphh: how'd I go about doing that? is initramfs a file system image?
20:20.51phhno, cpio/gz archive
20:20.57phhgo in an empty temporary folder
20:20.59phhgunzip -c < ../initrd.gz|sudo cpio -i
20:21.03phhmodify the init script
20:21.09phhfind |cpio -o -H newc |gzip -c > ../initrd.gz
20:21.30stiltzkinphh: ahh okay. thanks
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20:21.42stiltzkinthen just rezip?
20:21.51phhthe find blabla is to ""rezip""
20:22.13stiltzkinphh: ah ok I see now, you put gzip in there. cool.
20:23.43stiltzkinphh: I was also wondering, how can I edit zImage? it's a lzma-compressed kernel + scripts right?
20:23.53phhno scripts in zImage
20:24.03phhand it's gziped afaik
20:24.04F22YellowGTO: Astain is right. extractharet.exe is just the haret executable which replaces wino with linux. initrd is the initial ram disk that linux uses to boot from. zimage is the compressed kernel binary. the place to address the lcd issue is the kernel source code, which you can then compile to generate a new zimage.
20:24.49YellowGTO|NixWell what I was going to do was load up his Kernal and the working kernal for the TP1
20:25.03stiltzkinphh: OK. Trying to change something with my key mapping and I'm told it's controlled by zImage. Not sure if I can change it - it may be compiled into the kernel.
20:25.08YellowGTO|NixAnd look at the differnces in the LCD area and try and see if I could get and understanding on how it works
20:25.21AstainHellbringYellowGT0 again you want sources for that not bins
20:25.40YellowGTO|NixOh i thought extracting his exe would let me get the source
20:25.46phhstiltzkin: you mean the physical keyboard of a raph ?
20:26.09AstainHellbringno YellowGTO|Nix extracting just gives you bins
20:26.15AstainHellbringthe git will give you sources
20:26.20stiltzkinstiltzkin: not sure what a raph is. this is on a vogue
20:26.30YellowGTO|NixLoL I don't know where to find the git.
20:26.30phhstiltzkin: ah ok
20:26.32phhraph is touch pro
20:26.45stiltzkinphh: oh k
20:27.09phhstiltzkin: well iirc they did it REALLY dirty, so yes it's in the kernel
20:27.29stiltzkinphh: yeah I'm fairly sure this is part of the kernel, which sort of sucks from an end-user perspective X(
20:27.49phhnot only from an end user perspective.
20:28.04YellowGTO|NixDo you know where I can find the git AstainHellbring?
20:28.21AstainHellbringYellowGTO|Nix I think phh has a git you can checkout from
20:28.40phhno idea what's his status for topaz
20:28.43phhi'm pretty sure I broke it
20:28.43stiltzkinphh: I don't really know enough about how the mapping is controlled, but it seems like it'd be a hell of a lot simpler to include it in a script. Or make it a configurable kernel option that could be changed on boot
20:28.46F22use either linuxtogo or phh's gitorious
20:28.59phhyou'd better use linuxtogo for first tries
20:29.23Alex[sp3dev]holy crap, someone was cleaning up blackstone panel and removed the kovsky from the supported devices in the check during statup. let's see if it works if we patch it
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20:30.06phhstiltzkin: actually I think you can change it in the GUI
20:30.24stiltzkinphh: I don't think so. nothing I've ever seen.
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20:30.38stiltzkinphh: I think they plan to implement that eventually though
20:30.40phhstiltzkin: even if it's not the vogue dev's prefer, it can be done I think
20:31.40phhsomewhere in /system/usr
20:32.04phhsystem/usr/keylayout
20:32.24stiltzkinphh: well the whole story is that there are two keymappings, one from the cupcake days that everybody (myself included) got used to, and then a god-awful one introduced with ion I think. As it stands now I'm using the latest version of zImage with the old keymapping (October) and it seems to work. Got some errors about settings crashing but they weren't persistent.
20:32.48phhlol
20:32.51phhone keyboard per GUI
20:32.58phhlayout*
20:33.08stiltzkinphh: oh really? I will have to check that out. sounds unlikely though. if it were that easy I think SOMEONE would have put an option in dev tools or something
20:33.24YellowGTO|NixWhere do you find linuxtogo?
20:33.30phhYellowGTO|Nix: google ? :p
20:33.34YellowGTO|NixLoL
20:33.52YellowGTO|Nixlinuxtogo.org
20:33.55YellowGTO|NixThat was easy
20:35.05YellowGTO|NixProject homepage is down :-(
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20:35.33phhgit://git.linuxtogo.org/home/groups/mobile-linux/kernel.git
20:35.42AstainHellbringYellowGT0 http://linuxtogo.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi
20:39.11YellowGTO|NixTy
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20:40.40stiltzkinphh: looking at the init script...I see the fsck command but not what writes the files...
20:40.49phhstiltzkin: it's the fsck command
20:40.59stiltzkinphh: fsck always writes a file?
20:41.03phhno
20:41.10phhas said earlier, it's the lost+found
20:41.47stiltzkinphh: oh. well I mean when it finds a deleted file, it writes a file. OK, so I should be able to turn that off. stfu'ing and reading man page :P
20:42.40phhstiltzkin: I don't think so, but please note it's busybox's fsck, so it hasn't all features standard fsck has
20:42.56phhmaybe add an rm -f FSCK*.REC command ? :p
20:43.19stiltzkinphh: well technically it runs dosfsck if it's a FAT32 SD card and 23fsck if it's an ext
20:43.35stiltzkinphh: er, e2fsck
20:44.12phhuh ? i don't remember of that
20:44.25phh(anyway I use my own intramfs and rootfs)
20:45.05stiltzkinphh: uploaded the init here if you're interested: http://pastebin.ca/1716189
20:45.37phheven if i don't use it I know it :p
20:45.54phhoh well, it's not the same as the one i was used too
20:46.16phhat this time rootfs was only ext2
20:46.23YellowGTO|NixOh my brain is fried
20:47.15stiltzkinphh: yeah it's alternated back and forth between ext2 and ext3
20:47.48AstainHellbringYellowGTO|Nix having some troubles?
20:48.03phhstiltzkin: i meant no squashfs
20:48.13stiltzkinphh: oh, lol
20:48.18phhanyway, I change my rootfs and system every day, don't want to go back to squashfs :D
20:48.47phh(and really slow access to MMC doesn't help)
20:48.50stiltzkinphh: eh it's good enough for me I guess. I change my system all the time too but the updates come in squashfs anyway
20:49.09phhwhen I say I change, it means i'm doing the changes :D
20:49.29stiltzkinphh: yeah I got ya
20:50.05stiltzkinphh: from the dosfsck man page: "When  recovering  from  a  corrupted  file system, dosfsck dumps recovered data into files named 'fsckNNNN.rec' in the top  level directory of the file system.
20:50.47stiltzkinphh: which makes sense, as my card is fat. probably should format it ext, come to think of it. Only use it with Linux anyway.
20:51.03phhisn't the boot loader on the card ?
20:51.25phhoh well there is no need for that anyway
20:51.48YellowGTO|NixYay
20:52.02stiltzkinphh: sure. I think you just put haret and default.txt in a small fat partition and the system in ext. But yeah, maybe not worth the extra effort
20:52.12phhyes
20:52.26phhharet, default.txt, zImage, initrd.gz in the board memory should be fine
20:52.32makkonencan't you just stick... yeah, that.
20:52.32phh(and maybe even faster)
20:52.48phhmakkonen: that's what you wanted to say ? sorry :p
20:52.53stiltzkinphh: or that
20:53.08leviathan_tmzt: I've not finished merging the android parts into vanilla
20:53.10makkonenphh: yeah. I'm a little slow on the draw today.
20:53.10leviathan_it will come
20:53.28phhbtw if anyone knows how to read/write to wince partition :/
20:53.37phhI tried to see if it was a standard FAT, but it seems not to be
20:54.07stiltzkinphh: I think wince uses partition table tricks. The main FS is hidden
20:54.18phhstiltzkin: yes I know that
20:54.30phhhttp://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=RaphaelNAND
20:54.35phhhere is the "partition table"
20:54.45phhbut there is no FAT in there
20:56.01phhthe header seems to be MSFLSH50
20:56.11phhi'll ask google with that.
20:56.41stiltzkinphh: already did. this looks interesting: http://gauret.free.fr/fichiers/rpms/fedora/synce/FUR.spec
20:56.59phhthat's not "exactly" that
20:57.09phhFUR is to access on a running windows mobile through activesync
20:57.51stiltzkinphh: yeah...hmmm
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20:59.27stiltzkinphh: wow this gets quite complicated. I don't like dealing with Windows devices much anyway. Which is why I run Android on my phone. :P
20:59.58phhyes but i still need windows mobile as a boot loader, and I'd like to put some datas on board memory
21:00.42stiltzkinphh: stuff that you can't just copy over from an sdcard?
21:01.03phhno, it's just that sd card is way too slow and too interrupt eater
21:01.46stiltzkinphh: hahaha alright. class 6 cards are pretty fast though. depends on what you mean by "fast" and what you need to access the files for I guess
21:02.17phh1.I have a soldered sdcard (why did I chose this phone not a raph.. bah...)
21:02.22phh2.It still takes a lot of interrupts
21:05.23stiltzkinphh: oh. well that's another story. what phone _do_ you have?
21:05.23stiltzkinphh: because I've never heard of an htc with a soldered sdcard
21:05.40phhhtc touch diamond
21:06.58leviathan_tmzt & GNUtoo: As soon as I got a booting vanilla kernel
21:07.03leviathan_with clean drivers
21:07.11leviathan_I'll upload it into gitorious
21:07.20leviathan_but I'll have to hack around until it works
21:07.32GNUtooleviathan_, ok that's why you didn't upload yet
21:07.33phhwhich kernel version are you working on ?
21:07.41leviathan_2.6.32
21:07.47GNUtoohe's working on vanilla .32 from kenrel.org
21:08.10leviathan_The experimental android kernel from android.git.kernel.org boots now
21:08.16phhok
21:08.21leviathan_but it has too much android specific stuff in it
21:08.26leviathan_which I dont need
21:08.34leviathan_like unfree wifi interface
21:08.36leviathan_e.g.
21:08.42leviathan_that will be removed
21:08.50leviathan_in exchange there will be wl12xx
21:08.51phhyou mean trout_wifi_* ?
21:08.54leviathan_yes
21:09.04phhyou'll still need a way to set wifi on
21:09.09leviathan_yes
21:09.15leviathan_bob copelands patch
21:09.20phhrfkill ?
21:09.27leviathan_will be there too
21:09.34leviathan_with bobs patches
21:09.41leviathan_modified for 2.6.32 of course
21:09.50phhok
21:10.07leviathan_there are some different points in the kernel, which need to be cleaned up
21:10.28leviathan_I'll review them, and will decide whats unneded for a GNU-only kernel
21:10.42YellowGTO|NixAll these source files are in cpp
21:10.56YellowGTO|NixI thought everything to do with android was c
21:11.04phhlol no
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21:11.17phhit's C+C+++java+shell+many other things
21:11.32phhbut you spoke about kernel
21:11.43phhwhich is totally built from C
21:12.33YellowGTO|NixWell a few days ago I asked what would be the most useful lag to learn to help porting android to the Tp2
21:12.36YellowGTO|NixAnd I was told C
21:12.41leviathan_yes
21:12.52leviathan_because the mostpart you will have to do is kernel work
21:13.03leviathan_C++ and Java (user space languages)
21:13.11leviathan_are highlevel
21:13.25leviathan_these are the languages android is written in
21:13.43leviathan_the kernel only is written in c
21:14.03leviathan_the mostly needed thing for doing porting is writing drivers in kernel space
21:14.08leviathan_for supporting e.g.
21:14.17leviathan_input devices, graphics, sound
21:14.25phhfirst the leds ! :p
21:14.37YellowGTO|NixI'm looking through this git and I can't find anything in c
21:14.40YellowGTO|NixLoL
21:14.43leviathan_all the stuff which can differ from device to device (phh: also leds, yes)
21:14.43phh(or vibrator)
21:14.48leviathan_yes
21:14.59phhleviathan_: i mean it's the first thing to port to be able to debug
21:15.05leviathan_yes
21:15.19leviathan_but only if you have no jtag there ;)
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21:15.56phhbtw i have an htc headset with all ext usb pins, you think i could solder a serial port ?
21:16.03phh(i haven't opened it yet)
21:19.51leviathan_uhhm
21:20.17leviathan_might be possible
21:20.22leviathan_the pcb differs from case to case
21:20.42YellowGTO|NixI found a howto somewhere on the interwebs on how to do that phh
21:20.43phhok, i'll see, anyway this headset is half dead (i mean the earphone part)
21:20.52YellowGTO|NixIf I run across it again i'll fwd it to you
21:20.56phhthanks
21:21.49phhanyway extusb pin can be easily found, so if it's possible i'll see it :)
21:23.44tmztYellowGTO|Nix: what git?
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21:25.12tmztleviathan_: so what's going on? are there patches somewhere? I want to work on a tp2 port of your work soon, I looked for something to pull (forgot to update experimental) and couldn't find anything
21:25.30tmztyou should not need any tiwlan support for non-android
21:25.53leviathan_sry, I was a little distructed, my sister recently (1min ago) tried to kill her self
21:26.15leviathan_wit headag medicaments you need 1kg to get staing results
21:26.17leviathan_but anyway
21:26.29tmztI'm happy to try experimental as well, htc-msm-2.6.27 works on tp2cdma
21:26.39leviathan_ok
21:28.02tmztphh: I'm working with cmonex on a bootloader compromise, seh's looked in how to add multiboot to hspl to support kernel/initrd or maybe android boot.img (didn't think of that when I asked but might be easier)
21:28.20tmztthis will be for sd or partition whichever
21:28.38tmztbut we have to encode the cmdline in the zImage with default-cmdline option
21:28.42YellowGTO|NixWow leviathan is she ok?
21:28.55phhtmzt: well.. ok... i'll have to see and understand what *spl are one day :D
21:29.08tmztif we get yaffs or yaffs2 to work on the ce partition boundaries we can use nand
21:29.20tmztotherwise sd root until then
21:29.35phhtmzt: well default cmdline is no problem, but I guess it's default mtype too.. which sucks :/
21:29.45tmztphh: spl is seconadary program loader
21:29.53phhtmzt: first one is ARM9 ?
21:30.01tmztno, she can set that per hspl version since they are device specific
21:30.03tmztbasically
21:30.20tmztarm9 and arm11 both boot the bcspl
21:30.31phhbcspl ? still another spl /o\
21:30.33tmztthen oemspl which sends go2amss to the arm9
21:30.49tmztqcbspl I think it's called
21:30.56tmztnot bcspl
21:31.26tmzthspl is hardspl, modified version of the htc spl for booting unlocked/unsisgned ce kernels
21:31.29tmzt(xip)
21:31.51phhok
21:32.22phhmultiboot even on SD would be cool
21:32.30tmztyeah
21:32.38phhfor yaffs2 on CE partition, I guess we would need wince cooperation  no ?
21:32.44tmztthing is we need to shorted tfat or imgsfs to boot a second os
21:32.57tmztno, if we replace it we don't
21:33.05tmztbut we are not ready for that yet
21:33.10tmztwe need init code working
21:33.36phhwe first need to know what still needs to be inited :D
21:33.47tmztyes
21:33.59tmztbut initing from spl should be easier than a booted os
21:34.05tmztthe state should be known
21:34.25phhstate is maybe known, but known to have almost all devices not inited /o\
21:34.32tmztare you disabling mddi init for you results (lev/gnu)?
21:34.44tmztwhat devices?
21:34.58phhtmzt: btw you said topa works on htc-msm-2.6.27, it's on linuxtogo's tree ?
21:35.14phhor was it rhod ?
21:35.16phhwell your board.
21:35.17tmztno, gito qualcomm msm * tree
21:35.24tmztmy board with topa mtype
21:36.09phhok, i'll try to merge it for binary support with its other friends
21:36.23tmztmerge what?
21:36.29tmztI have rhod500
21:36.51phhI mean make it possible to have a single kernel for rhod+blac+raph+diam(+treo pro.. one day.. i hope)
21:36.57tmztcan we use pavel's clean upstream boards?
21:37.02tmztand drivers
21:37.06tmztyes, of course
21:37.16tmztbut not without amss ops
21:37.22tmztfor smd and rpc at least
21:37.25phhi know
21:37.29tmztmeaning a struct of pointers
21:37.34tmztyes
21:37.46tmztcan we use pavel's clean upstream boards?
21:37.50tmztand drivers
21:37.58phhdon't know what this is
21:38.10tmztupstream linux-next
21:38.23phhwhich boards are in it ?
21:38.25tmztthe new dream code
21:38.27phhoh ok
21:38.30tmztand the staging drivers
21:38.35tmztjust halibut and dream
21:38.46phhwe first have to port to 2.6.32/3 then ...
21:38.57tmztare you still testing on g1 only? or are you diam?
21:39.05phhi'm diam only
21:40.18tmztwe know the differences with raph/diam from rhod/topa
21:40.18tmztwe know how to make the drivers work on both it seems
21:40.18tmztas well as android amss
21:40.18tmztif we get rhod/topa working we can add back raph/diam to our new tree
21:40.26tmztwe just need to settle on what tree that's going to be
21:40.31tmztafter ltg/gito
21:40.43tmztwhat do you have working?
21:40.47phhtrue
21:40.55phhonly htc-msm-2.6.27
21:41.04tmztwe need all .config optioms to be per amss now
21:41.18tmztcompile time for now
21:41.33tmztI think we can add a structure like the mach-types tricks
21:41.42tmztfor an is-amss function call
21:41.51tmztamss-is I mean
21:42.08phhtmzt: a switch(machine_type) case DIAMOND:case RAPHAEL: blabla seems enough to me
21:42.52tmztnot for smd
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22:14.35leviathan_GNUtoo, tmzt, phh: I'm swiss
22:14.39leviathan_from zurich
22:14.43leviathan_so swiss german
22:14.45phhok
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22:15.01leviathan_but i can also speak english, german, french
22:15.02leviathan_uhhm
22:15.04leviathan_and latin
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22:15.12leviathan_buts not used anymore very often
22:15.14leviathan_^^
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22:16.43phhleviathan_: german with german accent ? :p
22:16.59leviathan_german with swiss accent
22:17.00leviathan_:)
22:17.03phh:)
22:17.42leviathan_"ich wött das scheiss android gebaschtel ändlich usä usm kärnel"
22:17.47leviathan_for example
22:17.48leviathan_;)
22:18.11phhI can't even read german, so swiss german.. noway :p
22:18.27phh(even if I studied german at school for 9 years)
22:19.37leviathan_ok
22:19.56leviathan_in this case this study didnt make much sense ;)
22:20.35phhthat's why I eventually decided to stop, and do as everyone, english.
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22:22.57MatBeezblarg
22:25.12leviathan_:)
22:25.14leviathan_ok
22:25.15leviathan_well
22:25.43leviathan_I'd like to see some more of america some day
22:25.54leviathan_for example travelling from south to north
22:26.02leviathan_and go into US-terrain
22:26.11leviathan_e.g. visiting aria 51
22:26.18leviathan_(Im a alian, I can do that)
22:26.19leviathan_xD
22:26.33leviathan_and of course, not only try'n dunkin donuts
22:26.37leviathan_but also crunchy cream
22:27.00leviathan_ordering a quarter pound with cheese
22:27.07leviathan_and afterwards in BK a whopper
22:27.26leviathan_and then visiting a jack daniels production facility
22:29.35MatBeezAny more news on the western front, phh?
22:29.43phhwestern ... ?
22:30.31phhanyway, nothing
22:33.33AstainHellbring~seen marajin
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22:37.14leviathan_uhhm
22:37.17leviathan_ok
22:37.23leviathan_I think, I'll go sleep now
22:37.29leviathan_I've got lecture tomorrow
22:38.05leviathan_the writing of the kernel stuff will consume some time
22:38.32leviathan_tmzt and phh: for fixing the oops in experimental
22:39.13phhleviathan_: would be nice :)
22:39.31leviathan_just  add following line in arch/arm/mach-msm/include/mach/msm_iomap.h
22:39.40leviathan_#define MSM_MDP_BASE          IOMEM(0xE0010000)
22:39.50leviathan_over  MSM_MDP_PHYS
22:41.41leviathan_then it should do the job
22:41.47leviathan_so, I'll go to sleep now
22:42.08leviathan_I'm tired
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22:42.38leviathan_I've got a student, I've got to coache her in mathematics and german
22:42.56leviathan_its interesting but two hours helping someone learning do take some energy
22:43.08leviathan_additionaly I need to get up tomorrow
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22:43.16leviathan_because I've got 4 hours in the laboratory tomorrow afternoon
22:43.21leviathan_will be fun but also it takes its energy I gues...
22:43.24leviathan_but I'm happy
22:43.24leviathan_^^
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23:51.20itatzusorry, just scrolled to end of welcome.....sorry..
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