| 00:00.07 | phh | DarkMasterHalo: 31 :p |
| 00:00.11 | DarkMasterHalo | kk |
| 00:00.13 | tmzt | it's up to userspace to do that, either through hot plug |
| 00:00.30 | DarkMasterHalo | phh: I asked the question on the 31 ... :S |
| 00:00.43 | phh | so why looking 30 logs ? p: |
| 00:01.00 | tmzt | (now udev) or the /sbin/modprobe called from the kernel when it detects a driver/fs/format/ldisc/etc. it needs loaded |
| 00:01.01 | DarkMasterHalo | Well, because I asked this question on the 30th here lol |
| 00:01.21 | DarkMasterHalo | We are the 31 here :P |
| 00:01.25 | phh | I hate this stupid sleep stuff. |
| 00:01.45 | tmzt | if modprobe is configured correctly it will load it by alias |
| 00:02.15 | tmzt | (like major number, protocol number, sound slot, or other values) |
| 00:02.28 | DarkMasterHalo | tmzt: Ok, how does udez determine what .ko to load, does the .ko provide some sort of name for a specific device ? |
| 00:02.32 | DarkMasterHalo | udev* |
| 00:02.38 | tmzt | it does now |
| 00:02.48 | DarkMasterHalo | Ah ok |
| 00:02.52 | tmzt | do a modinfo and you will see it |
| 00:03.19 | DarkMasterHalo | Ok, I guess you have to write a function in the driver to provide that information. |
| 00:03.19 | tmzt | but it didn't use to, and you had to setup (-or the vendor did) aliases for the drivers |
| 00:03.24 | tmzt | no |
| 00:03.34 | tmzt | that would require loading the module |
| 00:03.40 | tmzt | into the kernel |
| 00:04.00 | phh | this theory applies to computers or maybe to sdio devices, but that's it .... |
| 00:04.03 | tmzt | it just looks at a special simple in the elf (.ko) file |
| 00:04.25 | tmzt | should we get into platform bus then? |
| 00:04.35 | DarkMasterHalo | Okay. Nice I know more about Kernel now :) |
| 00:04.44 | DarkMasterHalo | Eh, what is platform bus ? |
| 00:04.46 | tmzt | I think but I'm not sure that udev is told when things are added to pbus |
| 00:05.05 | phh | I think it is |
| 00:05.16 | tmzt | it's a built in virtual bus that represents builtin device that cannot be enumerated |
| 00:05.26 | tmzt | because they don't have id's |
| 00:05.33 | DarkMasterHalo | Okay |
| 00:05.42 | phh | and/or their own bus |
| 00:05.42 | tmzt | simple/symbol above |
| 00:05.47 | tmzt | right |
| 00:08.05 | DarkMasterHalo | Ok, so rectification, when booting it boots the kernel then it loads modules one by one based on the udev service which probes for information on devices attached to the computer. |
| 00:08.40 | DarkMasterHalo | I hope I got it right :) |
| 00:09.58 | tmzt | kernel tells it what to load |
| 00:10.12 | DarkMasterHalo | Okay. |
| 00:10.15 | tmzt | udev can only probe certain things with callouts |
| 00:10.30 | tmzt | and only during the boot process, once kernel has fully loaded |
| 00:10.55 | DarkMasterHalo | Ah ok, so the Kernel is probing devices by itself than mouting the proper modules right ? |
| 00:11.20 | tmzt | not sure if things like pci are enumerated during syntthetic events in udev |
| 00:11.33 | tmzt | actually by a udev* tool, not udevd |
| 00:11.43 | DarkMasterHalo | Ok |
| 00:11.54 | tmzt | kernel probes buses once the bus driver inits |
| 00:12.20 | tmzt | then tells udev (if /proc/modprobe or whatever not set) which loads the drivers |
| 00:12.46 | tmzt | it tells udev through the uevent socket and event sockets in relevant sysfs directories |
| 00:13.26 | DarkMasterHalo | Ok now, when you add a new driver as a module, how does the module gets referenced, is it at compiling time ? |
| 00:15.43 | tmzt | it's loaded by the kernel module loaded |
| 00:15.50 | tmzt | which resolves the symbols |
| 00:16.58 | DarkMasterHalo | The symbols ? I mean the module has to provide some information to the Kernel so the Kernel knows what it does no ? |
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| 00:18.31 | tmzt | what do you mean? |
| 00:21.03 | DarkMasterHalo | Well, when you write a driver which provides functionnalities for a certain device and you compile it, it becomes a module (.ko) file which is loaded by the Kernel, but how does the Kernel recognise that module ? |
| 00:21.56 | tmzt | modprobe is the part that find the modules |
| 00:22.09 | tmzt | whether called directly from kernel or by udev |
| 00:22.22 | tmzt | the .ko declares init and exit calls |
| 00:22.40 | DarkMasterHalo | ah Ok |
| 00:22.47 | tmzt | in those calls the module registers and unreigsters whatever drivers, protocols, ldiscs, etc. it contains |
| 00:23.10 | DarkMasterHalo | and these init calls are written in the driver itself ? |
| 00:23.22 | tmzt | yes, in the module |
| 00:23.41 | DarkMasterHalo | module = driver or not ? just to make it clear :P |
| 00:23.57 | tmzt | there are other symbols not loaded into the kernel that can tell modprobe things about the driver |
| 00:24.18 | tmzt | no, module is the file, driver is a struct registered with a kernel subsystem |
| 00:24.55 | tmzt | a module can contain multiple drivers or part of a driver |
| 00:25.09 | tmzt | as long as the whole thing is loaded before being registered |
| 00:25.21 | tmzt | or called |
| 00:27.03 | DarkMasterHalo | Okay, so there is already some modules that load the drivers you guys are writing for linux (htc) |
| 00:33.08 | tmzt | I think only wifi is in a module |
| 00:33.30 | phh | I also added ramzswap |
| 00:33.58 | DarkMasterHalo | Okay, so the other drivers are loaded with the kernel at boot time then ? |
| 00:35.16 | tmzt | yes |
| 00:35.24 | tmzt | they are compiled in |
| 00:35.36 | DarkMasterHalo | Ah ok |
| 00:35.36 | tmzt | phh: any reason for it to be a module? |
| 00:35.45 | phh | tmzt: no patch to merge it |
| 00:35.57 | phh | and don't want to do it by myself even if it shouldn't be hard |
| 00:36.15 | tmzt | but linux still calls their init functions it essentially the same order they are compiled in |
| 00:36.30 | tmzt | though exit is never called |
| 00:37.18 | tmzt | should be a copy -r and a source in Kconfig as well as a += in Makefile |
| 00:37.25 | phh | I think so |
| 00:37.44 | tmzt | could be useful on non-android also |
| 00:42.29 | DarkMasterHalo | I'm copying linux-msm git. I'll take a look at some code there. |
| 00:43.12 | phh | tmzt: http://pastebin.com/m5b26ef46 |
| 00:43.19 | phh | you can adapt this script to whatever distrib you use |
| 00:45.19 | tmzt | should it really be harder than an entry in fstab? |
| 00:46.26 | phh | bah if you have an idea to do that ... |
| 00:46.37 | phh | might use a loopback ext2 mmmm |
| 00:47.06 | phh | doesn't sound great. |
| 00:47.34 | tmzt | what? |
| 00:47.43 | tmzt | for proc/zswap? |
| 00:47.53 | phh | modules |
| 00:48.08 | phh | that's not what you're talking about with the entry in fstab ? |
| 00:48.14 | tmzt | see the point, built in is better |
| 00:48.16 | tmzt | no |
| 00:48.21 | tmzt | ramcache |
| 00:48.27 | tmzt | compcache |
| 00:48.35 | ToAsTcfh | phh: did u look at those utilities i sent |
| 00:48.40 | phh | ToAsTcfh: no |
| 00:48.55 | phh | wat |
| 00:48.57 | phh | which ones ? |
| 00:49.00 | tmzt | also, modprobe.d is enough to get it loaded with mer/ubuntu/debian |
| 00:49.01 | ToAsTcfh | oh well... |
| 00:49.04 | tmzt | or init.rc |
| 00:49.23 | ToAsTcfh | but we got all sensors up 100% |
| 00:49.35 | ToAsTcfh | ddream sensors.c |
| 00:50.02 | ToAsTcfh | now were tryin to get around lib oemcamera |
| 00:50.29 | ToAsTcfh | it wants msmcamera and i guess the kernel dont have it |
| 00:50.47 | phh | msmcamera is the name of the /dev device? |
| 00:51.15 | ToAsTcfh | yeah well its not getting loaded by the kernel |
| 00:51.40 | ToAsTcfh | anyideas |
| 00:51.53 | phh | let me search in my kernel sources database. |
| 00:52.37 | phh | hero kernel source do have msm_camera device |
| 00:52.52 | phh | ToAsTcfh: what's the exact error ? |
| 00:54.55 | ToAsTcfh | hmmm hold up |
| 01:01.14 | ToAsTcfh | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:01.14 | ToAsTcfh | there is pmem_camera |
| 01:01.14 | ToAsTcfh | though |
| 01:01.31 | ToAsTcfh | phh: what do u think |
| 01:01.47 | phh | I need a real error message. |
| 01:01.51 | phh | without source nor error message |
| 01:01.54 | phh | it's kind of tough |
| 01:02.04 | tmzt | are the using v4l? |
| 01:02.45 | ToAsTcfh | tmzt no |
| 01:03.13 | tmzt | can you strace? |
| 01:03.42 | ToAsTcfh | yeah but not right now |
| 01:03.51 | ToAsTcfh | what to strace for |
| 01:03.56 | ToAsTcfh | camera |
| 01:04.12 | phh | maybe.... don't know.... the camera app ? |
| 01:04.14 | phh | nnnnnaaaaaaaaa |
| 01:04.15 | phh | sounds stupid |
| 01:04.32 | ToAsTcfh | its the 2.1 camera app |
| 01:04.42 | ToAsTcfh | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:04.57 | ToAsTcfh | its htcs camera |
| 01:05.07 | phh | it's htc or aosp ... ? |
| 01:05.16 | ToAsTcfh | both |
| 01:05.32 | ToAsTcfh | it doesnt work in both builds |
| 01:05.40 | phh | anyway |
| 01:05.42 | phh | strace it. |
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| 01:06.09 | ToAsTcfh | ok will look into it tomorrow. |
| 01:06.37 | ToAsTcfh | happy new years and thank u guys for all ur help uve given me |
| 01:08.18 | ToAsTcfh | where are the light sensor .so? |
| 01:08.51 | ToAsTcfh | or what ever alows it to work like sensors.heroc |
| 01:08.59 | ToAsTcfh | or is there |
| 01:10.18 | tmzt | oem? |
| 01:10.52 | phh | ToAsTcfh: it handles lights. |
| 01:10.56 | phh | (sounds weird, i know) |
| 01:11.02 | phh | oh wait |
| 01:11.06 | phh | it's not light *sensor* |
| 01:11.12 | phh | it's light *emission* |
| 01:11.20 | phh | light sensor is in the sensors.so file |
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| 01:28.00 | ToAsTcfh | phh:D/QualcommCameraHardware( 45): createInstance: E |
| 01:28.01 | ToAsTcfh | I/mm-camera-mmap( 45): There is no sensor detect |
| 01:28.01 | ToAsTcfh | E/QualcommCameraHardware( 45): no sensor detect |
| 01:28.01 | ToAsTcfh | I/QualcommCameraHardware( 45): Open Device node : /dev/msm_camera/control0 |
| 01:28.01 | ToAsTcfh | E/QualcommCameraHardware( 45): startCamera X: /dev/msm_camera/control0 open failed: No such file or directory! |
| 01:28.02 | ToAsTcfh | E/QualcommCameraHardware( 45): createInstance: startCamera failed! |
| 01:28.04 | ToAsTcfh | D/QualcommCameraHardware( 45): ~QualcommCameraHardware E |
| 01:31.52 | phh | ok I can confirm hero has no such t hing. |
| 01:32.21 | phh | upstream 2.6.31 neither |
| 01:32.37 | phh | I7500 neither |
| 01:32.41 | phh | ToAsTcfh: where did you get this app ? :p |
| 01:34.22 | phh | uh |
| 01:34.24 | phh | I might be wrong |
| 01:35.08 | phh | mmmmmm |
| 01:35.18 | phh | depends on how stupid android is |
| 01:35.38 | tmzt | it probably makes that directory at runtime |
| 01:35.48 | tmzt | check /proc/devices |
| 01:36.14 | phh | ok, totally stupid |
| 01:36.32 | tmzt | phh: can you check opensource.palm.com for Pixi source? |
| 01:36.46 | phh | hu ? |
| 01:36.50 | phh | how useful would that be ? |
| 01:37.32 | tmzt | for this? I'm looking for an updatated mdp driver not using pmem |
| 01:37.48 | tmzt | it's 7627 though |
| 01:37.53 | phh | oh they run qualcomm ? |
| 01:38.01 | phh | I thaught they use omap |
| 01:38.02 | tmzt | also, v4l2 camera I think |
| 01:38.07 | tmzt | Pre is omap |
| 01:38.11 | tmzt | Pixi is msm |
| 01:38.38 | phh | 2.6.24 |
| 01:38.39 | phh | cool. |
| 01:39.17 | tmzt | well, weird actually |
| 01:39.32 | tmzt | the backported codeaurora stuff |
| 01:39.51 | tmzt | it's not the same 2.6.24 that google released two years ago |
| 01:42.06 | phh | +static struct android_pmem_platform_data android_pmem_fb_pdata = { |
| 01:42.13 | phh | tmzt: sounds like you're kind of optimistic. |
| 01:43.14 | phh | oh |
| 01:43.18 | phh | kxsd9 accelerometer |
| 01:46.31 | phh | mmmm interrupt on freefall |
| 01:46.45 | phh | I wonder if it can work for us |
| 01:47.00 | tmzt | if the gpio is connected |
| 01:47.42 | tmzt | pmem without drm? |
| 01:47.52 | tmzt | of course, it's 2.6.24 |
| 01:48.20 | phh | how do you want to do else than pmem hack btw ? |
| 01:48.57 | tmzt | ? |
| 01:49.11 | phh | I mean without pmem, how to do 2D accel ? |
| 01:49.20 | tmzt | hope to remove pmem from the new drm code |
| 01:49.27 | phh | ah drm ok |
| 01:49.30 | tmzt | it currently calls into it |
| 01:49.49 | tmzt | and the ddx uses binder |
| 01:49.57 | tmzt | which makes no sense |
| 01:50.05 | tmzt | since there's no android |
| 01:53.08 | tmzt | phh: is it using function or gadget? |
| 01:53.11 | tmzt | composite? |
| 01:53.13 | phh | gadget |
| 01:53.17 | tmzt | nice |
| 01:53.26 | phh | I still don't get why you hate function |
| 01:53.44 | tmzt | I don't, I even like the bitmap stuff |
| 01:54.02 | tmzt | I just want the standard linux stuff to work |
| 01:54.10 | phh | ok |
| 01:54.15 | phh | anyway, good night |
| 01:54.20 | tmzt | if function is better it should be merged and submitted upstream |
| 01:54.22 | tmzt | night |
| 01:55.36 | DarkMasterHalo | WOW, I don't even know where to read and what to do in the source files. |
| 01:55.53 | tmzt | huh? |
| 01:56.23 | DarkMasterHalo | So complicated |
| 01:56.34 | DarkMasterHalo | I'm lacking a lot of knowledge ... |
| 01:56.34 | tmzt | no |
| 01:56.40 | ToAsTcfh | tmzt: so what do u think i should look into? v4l |
| 01:56.56 | tmzt | read the Kconfig's in the top level directories |
| 01:57.01 | tmzt | you'll see |
| 01:57.06 | DarkMasterHalo | Hmm kk |
| 01:57.07 | tmzt | drivers/media/video |
| 01:58.56 | ToAsTcfh | ive looked at v4l2 but im not sure if itll work for us or how hard itll be to write |
| 01:59.17 | ToAsTcfh | i seen all the docs in there |
| 01:59.46 | tmzt | didn't phh say he found the control0 |
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| 02:00.59 | townkat | happy new year to everyone ;) |
| 02:05.28 | DarkMasterHalo | tmzt: What should I look in that file. Sorry if I'm a bit noobish :P |
| 02:05.58 | tmzt | what file? |
| 02:06.19 | tmzt | msm something or the name of the sensor |
| 02:06.58 | DarkMasterHalo | tmzt: KConfig :P |
| 02:07.19 | DarkMasterHalo | tmzt: I'm looking at the one in linux-msm/arch/arm/mach-msm |
| 02:07.32 | tmzt | those are the .config options |
| 02:07.41 | tmzt | just read it, it will make sense |
| 02:12.27 | DarkMasterHalo | tmzt: What file should I read next :P |
| 02:12.46 | DarkMasterHalo | tmzt: Begins to make more sense. |
| 02:12.56 | tmzt | Makefile |
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| 02:19.02 | DarkMasterHalo | tmzt: Ok there's a lot of object file there, what should I read next ? |
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| 02:43.20 | DarkMasterHalo | Okay, good night all and Happy New Year ! |
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| 04:12.28 | MxxCon | hey folks. it sounds like it'll be hard to get cdma data implemented? |
| 04:18.23 | tmzt | on? |
| 04:18.30 | tmzt | it works on rhod500 |
| 04:22.25 | MxxCon | oh, sorry :) |
| 04:22.28 | MxxCon | sprint's touchpro2 |
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| 04:36.28 | tmzt | verizon |
| 04:36.32 | tmzt | so same thing |
| 04:36.51 | tmzt | I just use a script, but I'm not using android |
| 04:37.12 | tmzt | mdrobnak's ril should work there if built for the version of android you're using |
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| 04:40.55 | MxxCon | does it matter if its android or not? |
| 05:09.22 | tmzt | not for the kernel or hardware support |
| 05:09.29 | tmzt | but that already works |
| 05:24.29 | tornador | i have cloned the linux-msm. how can i clone the 2.6.27 branch? |
| 05:27.26 | tmzt | it will check itself out |
| 05:27.38 | tmzt | git branch |
| 05:27.48 | tmzt | will tell you whick you're on |
| 05:29.40 | tornador | thanks |
| 05:37.39 | MxxCon | btw, happy new year |
| 05:40.33 | tornador | Happy New Year to all |
| 05:49.40 | tornador | when wtrying to compile the kernel i have |
| 05:49.41 | tornador | cc1: error: unrecognized command line option "-mlittle-endian" |
| 05:49.42 | tornador | cc1: error: unrecognized command line option "-mapcs" |
| 05:49.47 | tornador | any clue of what can be? |
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| 07:04.27 | tmzt | tor: yes |
| 07:05.38 | tmzt | ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILER=/opt/arm/arm2008q1/bin/arm-eabi-none- make zImage |
| 07:07.01 | makkonen1 | CROSS_COMPILER or CROSS_COMPILE? |
| 07:07.28 | tmzt | no R |
| 07:07.31 | tmzt | thanks |
| 07:08.22 | makkonen1 | also every quarter the arm-none-eabi- command changes. it's like they're trying to be annoying. |
| 07:09.17 | tmzt | yes |
| 07:09.29 | tmzt | but easier than playing with path for me |
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| 08:29.16 | ToAsTcfh | tmzt: this is what the errors im getting in 2.1 |
| 08:29.21 | ToAsTcfh | W/IntentManager( 915): from class: com.android.camera.CameraEntry |
| 08:29.21 | ToAsTcfh | W/IntentManager( 915): mRequestMode = RequestMode.Main, from Camera |
| 08:29.21 | ToAsTcfh | W/IntentManager( 915): request name = null - RequestName.Unknown_General |
| 08:29.21 | ToAsTcfh | V/HTCCameraAdvanceSetting( 915): writePreference E |
| 08:29.21 | ToAsTcfh | V/CameraThread( 915): *************************************** run |
| 08:29.22 | ToAsTcfh | W/HTCCamera( 915): last camera is closed, so go to quickly preview |
| 08:29.24 | ToAsTcfh | V/CameraThread( 915): start_preview() - start |
| 08:29.26 | ToAsTcfh | E/CameraThread( 915): open the Camera in start_camera_preview |
| 08:29.29 | ToAsTcfh | W/CameraThread( 915): Open Camera - set mIsLastCameraClosed to false |
| 08:29.32 | ToAsTcfh | D/CameraService( 77): CameraService::connect E (pid 915, client 0x28650) |
| 08:29.33 | ToAsTcfh | D/CameraService( 77): Client::Client E (pid 915) |
| 08:29.36 | ToAsTcfh | V/QualcommCameraHardware( 77): openCameraHardware: call createInstance |
| 08:29.38 | ToAsTcfh | D/QualcommCameraHardware( 77): createInstance: E |
| 08:29.39 | ToAsTcfh | V/QualcommCameraHardware( 77): constructor EX |
| 08:29.41 | ToAsTcfh | V/QualcommCameraHardware( 77): startCamera E |
| 08:29.43 | ToAsTcfh | V/QualcommCameraHardware( 77): loading liboemcamera at 0xb0013810 |
| 08:29.45 | ToAsTcfh | I/QualcommCameraHardware( 77): [HANK] open main camera |
| 08:29.47 | ToAsTcfh | I/mm-camera-mmap( 77): There is no sensor detect |
| 08:29.49 | ToAsTcfh | E/QualcommCameraHardware( 77): no sensor detect |
| 08:29.51 | ToAsTcfh | I/QualcommCameraHardware( 77): Open Device node : /dev/msm_camera/control0 |
| 08:29.53 | ToAsTcfh | E/QualcommCameraHardware( 77): startCamera X: /dev/msm_camera/control0 open failed: No such file or directory! |
| 08:29.58 | ToAsTcfh | E/QualcommCameraHardware( 77): createInstance: startCamera failed! |
| 08:30.00 | ToAsTcfh | D/QualcommCameraHardware( 77): ~QualcommCameraHardware E |
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| 08:44.18 | ToAsTcfh | phh: ^^^^^^ look above |
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| 10:00.10 | tids2k | hows it going mate |
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| 11:18.13 | phh | so with the zImage a guy sent me yesterday, with some really little patch, during a night of ~ 10hours |
| 11:18.20 | phh | wimo's battery indicator went from 80% |
| 11:18.25 | phh | to hum.... well.... 80%. |
| 11:21.11 | parmaster | happy new year |
| 11:21.19 | parmaster | what phone is that on? |
| 11:21.43 | phh | diamond |
| 11:22.54 | phh | the phone woke uponly 29times in these 10hours and during these 10hours, the CPU was awake for a total of 80s. |
| 11:25.28 | parmaster | thats amazing |
| 11:25.49 | parmaster | and android is fully running on it? |
| 11:25.52 | phh | now the only thing is to understand the differences. |
| 11:25.57 | phh | depends on what you call "fully" |
| 11:26.04 | parmaster | all hardware works |
| 11:26.05 | phh | but the same way (even better) than we usual kernels |
| 11:26.13 | phh | bah no gps no camera no fm |
| 11:26.17 | parmaster | ok |
| 11:26.26 | parmaster | well gps is obvious reasons |
| 11:26.39 | phh | uh ? |
| 11:26.46 | phh | really ? |
| 11:27.17 | parmaster | i dunno, if its like the vogue then yah |
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| 11:27.55 | phh | the vogue has gps working afaik |
| 11:28.00 | parmaster | yes |
| 11:28.06 | parmaster | did you see how it does? |
| 11:28.15 | parmaster | thats why |
| 11:28.16 | parmaster | hehe |
| 11:28.35 | phh | it does in an unreadable way. |
| 11:29.15 | parmaster | the api |
| 11:29.50 | phh | what about the API ? |
| 11:29.52 | phh | and which API ? |
| 11:33.22 | parmaster | GPS: srwalter's reverse engineering the windows RPC calls/implementing it |
| 11:33.53 | parmaster | exaaaaactly |
| 11:35.17 | phh | we might use android's libgps. |
| 11:35.20 | phh | might be easier |
| 11:37.57 | parmaster | i don't understand, libgps to an alien htc phone would be like a limp dick |
| 11:38.36 | parmaster | steven walters did an amazing job.. i honestly never thought that it would ever be written |
| 11:38.54 | parmaster | the vogue team continues to amaze me |
| 11:39.56 | phh | you know the radio software hasn't much changed between wince devices and android devices ... |
| 11:40.18 | phh | so using libgps might work. |
| 11:40.36 | parmaster | ok, sure. i'll believe it when i see it :) |
| 11:41.27 | phh | well we already have working init code, so we just lack the get_position, so I don't think anyone will try that. |
| 11:42.14 | phh | GlemSom: I think you'll have to update your compiler btw |
| 11:42.36 | GlemSom | phh, ok? |
| 11:42.43 | phh | I first do some tries |
| 11:44.13 | phh | oh well, it won't harm anyway I think |
| 11:44.17 | phh | GlemSom: use http://www.codesourcery.com/sgpp/lite/arm/portal/package5383/public/arm-none-linux-gnueabi/arm-2009q3-67-arm-none-linux-gnueabi-i686-pc-linux-gnu.tar.bz2 |
| 11:44.56 | phh | the current one is 2008q1, that's a bit old now anyway :D |
| 11:44.58 | GlemSom | phh, I'm currently using arm-2008q1...? |
| 11:45.14 | GlemSom | Well, is there anything broken in it? |
| 11:45.22 | phh | I think it breaks sleep_mode=1 |
| 11:45.27 | phh | but I first check it. |
| 11:45.45 | GlemSom | ohh, that's a major error then... then I'll defently update! |
| 11:45.59 | GlemSom | Jsut gotta check the new 2009q3 doesn't break anything else then :P |
| 11:46.05 | phh | yeah :p |
| 11:46.25 | phh | but the zImage I was talking about (awesome battery life and so.) uses 2009q1 not 2008q1 |
| 11:46.31 | phh | and well, that's the only difference I can see :p |
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| 11:47.18 | GlemSom | Compiled using same tree, and same configuration? |
| 11:47.26 | phh | not exactly |
| 11:47.43 | phh | anyway he gave me his patches |
| 11:47.50 | phh | and it still does the same for me |
| 11:49.17 | phh | GlemSom: which phone do you have again ? |
| 11:49.25 | GlemSom | phh, diam100 |
| 11:49.33 | phh | :/ |
| 11:49.46 | phh | I need some testers that has anything but diam100 /o\ |
| 11:49.56 | phh | well anything but diam100-499 |
| 11:50.06 | vawx | do i count? :p |
| 11:50.11 | phh | vawx: sure |
| 11:50.19 | phh | http://zimages.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/autobuild_system/htc-msm-android/zImage-modules-20100101_003747.tar |
| 11:50.21 | phh | try that. |
| 11:50.24 | GlemSom | I think babijoee has raph... |
| 11:50.40 | phh | yes but he is not here :p |
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| 11:51.11 | GlemSom | hmm www.codesourcery.com is really slow... takes about 15 minutes to download the arm compiler from there... :/ |
| 11:51.19 | phh | yes .... |
| 11:51.27 | phh | and I downloaded the wrong package /o\ |
| 11:51.36 | phh | (the link I gave you is the right one) |
| 11:51.47 | vawx | Anything special i need to do to make it work? (cmdline and such) |
| 11:51.48 | GlemSom | heh :) |
| 11:51.52 | phh | vawx: no |
| 11:52.18 | phh | vawx: it might crash |
| 11:52.21 | phh | or not. |
| 11:52.42 | vawx | we will see that soon enough :p |
| 11:52.49 | phh | It's a strange zImage, it might be give android that much free RAM that it will be really usable, or it might just not boot :p |
| 11:54.13 | vawx | maybe it's magical and fix all the errors |
| 11:54.19 | phh | yeah... no. |
| 11:54.25 | phh | it's not that good. |
| 11:54.29 | vawx | :P |
| 11:54.43 | phh | vawx: still not crashed ? |
| 11:54.54 | vawx | still booting |
| 11:55.08 | phh | should work properly then |
| 11:55.20 | phh | vawx: you still have no adb/telnet/terminal ? |
| 11:55.33 | vawx | no :( |
| 11:55.37 | phh | bah |
| 11:55.39 | phh | you have taskiller ? |
| 11:55.47 | vawx | not atm, but can install |
| 11:55.56 | vawx | i do have a terminal, but SU doesn't work |
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| 11:56.02 | phh | don't need su |
| 11:56.04 | phh | just do free |
| 11:56.10 | vawx | and adb still doesn't see the device and telnet needs login |
| 11:56.25 | vawx | i think the booting froze |
| 11:56.54 | phh | it doesn't reboot by himself ? |
| 11:57.03 | vawx | no |
| 11:57.20 | phh | bah |
| 11:57.23 | vawx | stuck at the part after A N D R O I D |
| 11:57.53 | vawx | i'll try again, might be related to creating new data.img |
| 11:57.53 | phh | ah. |
| 11:58.39 | phh | if it still doesn't work try adding mem=180m |
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| 12:02.07 | GlemSom | phh, I've got requests to split-up the zImage and modules to save brandwith... (So people can just download the zImage, and leave the modules alone)... But iirc that would be a pain since the module versions would be wrong (And refuses to load?) and the users will have to rename the module-KERNEL_VER.tar.gz archive by hand then(To match KERNEL_VER)....Correct me if I'm wrong here please |
| 12:02.32 | vawx | YOUR bandwidth or theirs? |
| 12:02.35 | phh | you can separate the archive it's no problem :p |
| 12:02.37 | phh | vawx: their |
| 12:02.51 | vawx | it's only 5mb :P |
| 12:03.05 | vawx | altough i can't judge, i have no idea what a limit is like |
| 12:03.05 | phh | GlemSom: just have a column zImage and one modules on the same line then |
| 12:03.06 | phh | *but* |
| 12:03.12 | phh | GlemSom: you can strip the modules |
| 12:03.20 | phh | this might save a lot of space :p |
| 12:03.27 | vawx | wweee kernel panic |
| 12:03.50 | GlemSom | phh, Wont the module version be wrong then? |
| 12:04.04 | phh | GlemSom: if the modules are the one built with the zImage it's fine |
| 12:04.11 | phh | but if it's another version it won't work yes |
| 12:04.18 | phh | but users aren't that stupid... |
| 12:04.20 | phh | are they ? |
| 12:04.24 | vawx | actually... |
| 12:04.26 | vawx | yes |
| 12:04.28 | parmaster | strip just removes junk within the files |
| 12:04.32 | GlemSom | phh, uhhhm.....?!?! I think :P |
| 12:04.55 | GlemSom | Do you use gdb or something to debug? Cause stripping would break that? |
| 12:04.58 | phh | parmaster: it will save a lot of space :p |
| 12:05.01 | phh | GlemSom: not on the kernel |
| 12:05.03 | parmaster | phh: yep |
| 12:05.16 | parmaster | yeah, stripping you would lose symbols etc. |
| 12:05.23 | phh | GlemSom: do only strip --strip-debug, |
| 12:05.53 | GlemSom | phh, So, just so we're clear here... The modules NEEDS to be compiled to the zImage they're gonna be loaded with - anything else will fail - right? (Like using an older versions of the modules, with a newer zImage) |
| 12:06.10 | parmaster | yeah its linux |
| 12:06.21 | vawx | does messing with android somehow influence wimo? |
| 12:06.29 | phh | GlemSom: not exactly, just the version string is checked |
| 12:06.37 | vawx | cause my install is all slow and unresponsive |
| 12:06.39 | phh | but well, let's assume it is. |
| 12:06.41 | GlemSom | phh, Will insmod ignore that? |
| 12:06.43 | phh | vawx: reboot ? :p |
| 12:06.55 | parmaster | modprobe? |
| 12:06.56 | vawx | in general, njot just now |
| 12:07.02 | phh | vawx: ah |
| 12:07.06 | phh | vawx: I don't think so |
| 12:07.08 | GlemSom | I think the init script uses insmod... ? |
| 12:07.31 | parmaster | oh, then you're probably in trouble |
| 12:07.37 | phh | parmaster: bah why ? |
| 12:07.54 | parmaster | well i dunno i guess theres maybe flags you can feed it |
| 12:08.44 | parmaster | i don't know the symantics of insmod |
| 12:09.10 | parmaster | whenever a kernel modules failed for me i just used modprobe to work around that |
| 12:10.21 | phh | I need agood IME. |
| 12:10.43 | phh | parmaster: I hate blackmagic :p |
| 12:10.52 | phh | I prefer tools that do only what I want them to do. |
| 12:11.14 | phh | GlemSom: ok. compiler doesn't help. |
| 12:11.15 | phh | bbbbbaaahhhhhhhh |
| 12:11.20 | phh | time to eat. |
| 12:11.28 | GlemSom | phh, Finaly got it downloaded.... :P |
| 12:11.59 | GlemSom | phh, Maybe it'll be a good idea to use 2009q3 anyway? |
| 12:13.23 | vawx | phh: adding mem=180m doesn't help either, just froze again but without panic |
| 12:13.50 | vawx | so guess it's diamond stuff for now :p |
| 12:17.08 | parmaster | what phones you guys running? |
| 12:18.50 | vawx | Touch Diamond 2 (aka Topaz) here |
| 12:37.33 | GlemSom | phh, When you have the time, could you please commit: http://glemsom.anapnea.net/android/strip-modules.patch ? |
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| 13:13.14 | phh | GlemSom: done |
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| 13:26.43 | magnus1 | if i have a HTC Blackstone / HTC Touch HD, how well will android run on it? |
| 13:26.54 | magnus1 | i cant seem to find any info on installing android on my phone |
| 13:27.03 | magnus1 | just for other models, like dream, raphaell, leo, diamond etc |
| 13:27.30 | phh | download http://htcandroid.xland.cz/Eclair-2009-12-28b.7z |
| 13:27.38 | phh | extract it to the root of your sdcard |
| 13:27.42 | phh | edit startup.txt |
| 13:27.58 | magnus1 | okay, who build that phh ? |
| 13:27.59 | phh | change mtype to 1951 |
| 13:28.04 | phh | launch haret.exe |
| 13:28.04 | phh | me |
| 13:28.21 | phh | well, it depends on what you call "build". |
| 13:28.30 | TuxBrother | can i ask a noobish question? can't find it on the forums |
| 13:28.32 | magnus1 | cool.. is HTC blackstone similar to another HTC device? or what codebase did you use? |
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| 13:28.39 | phh | TuxBrother: bah ask |
| 13:28.55 | phh | magnus1: similar to raphael/diamond/rhodium/topaz |
| 13:29.00 | TuxBrother | is it possible to port maemo to the tilt 2? |
| 13:29.33 | phh | TuxBrother: yes |
| 13:29.55 | phh | convert their root, to an ext2 rootfs.img, boot it and fix what's wrong. |
| 13:30.13 | TuxBrother | ok |
| 13:30.25 | TuxBrother | where can I get their root? |
| 13:31.20 | TuxBrother | it's armv7 ain't it? is it backwards compatible? |
| 13:31.25 | magnus1 | phh: ok, cool! so what differs blackstone from the mentioned devices? you dont happen to have a URL describing how you put together that package do you? |
| 13:31.39 | magnus1 | im interested in building my own kernel etc, helping out with device development |
| 13:31.40 | phh | TuxBrother: yes it's armv7 and yes backward compatible |
| 13:31.45 | phh | TuxBrother: use smartq5 root |
| 13:32.03 | phh | I know no doc |
| 13:32.19 | phh | and what differs is basically the LCD controler, and the buttons |
| 13:32.22 | phh | and I think that's it |
| 13:32.32 | magnus1 | alrite |
| 13:32.36 | phh | for comparing with raph/diam I mean |
| 13:32.36 | TuxBrother | phh: ok |
| 13:32.49 | phh | for rhod/topa there are some little other ground changes to communicate with the modem |
| 13:33.03 | TuxBrother | where can i download smartq5 root? google talks about Mer or something |
| 13:33.27 | magnus1 | i see,.. where did you find the kernel for this eclair package then phh ? |
| 13:34.11 | phh | "find" isn't the exact word :p |
| 13:34.13 | phh | http://gitorious.org/linux-on-qualcomm-s-msm |
| 13:35.33 | magnus1 | thanks |
| 13:35.42 | TuxBrother | phh: i can't find a Maemo 5 rootfs for Q5 |
| 13:35.56 | phh | TuxBrother: well it's Mer that you want |
| 13:36.14 | TuxBrother | ok... |
| 13:36.19 | TuxBrother | why no maemo? |
| 13:36.28 | phh | http://stskeeps.subnetmask.net/mer/0.16/mer-armel-smartq5-rootfs-v0.16.tar.gz |
| 13:36.34 | phh | maemo is afaik only for nokia devices |
| 13:36.39 | phh | because of some closed-source drivers |
| 13:37.03 | TuxBrother | thank you ;) |
| 13:37.09 | phh | http://stskeeps.subnetmask.net/mer/0.17testing4/mer-armel-generic-image-v0.17testing4.tar.gz |
| 13:37.12 | phh | you can also try this one |
| 13:37.20 | TuxBrother | ok :) |
| 13:37.25 | TuxBrother | making a rootfs now |
| 13:37.45 | TuxBrother | no ext3? |
| 13:38.02 | phh | mmmm |
| 13:38.11 | phh | I've always done ext2 for a sdcard |
| 13:38.25 | TuxBrother | ok :) |
| 13:38.26 | phh | because journal on an sdcard isn't really good |
| 13:38.34 | phh | but I've never seen any actual problem |
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| 13:39.36 | TuxBrother | oke, luckly I've got a fiber connection here :) |
| 13:39.48 | phh | GlemSom: I need buildlogs even when the build fails :p |
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| 13:39.54 | phh | TuxBrother: uh ? why ? |
| 13:40.10 | TuxBrother | download time of packages ;) |
| 13:40.46 | TuxBrother | ok |
| 13:40.59 | TuxBrother | copying test 4 to my storage card now |
| 13:41.02 | AndreMetzen | i cant run android on my TP2, anyone can help me? |
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| 13:41.56 | phh | AndreMetzen: any more precise thing that "can't run" ? |
| 13:43.17 | AndreMetzen | sure, i tryed many build so far... each one had stop on a diferent step |
| 13:43.29 | phh | that doesn't help :p |
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| 13:47.51 | AndreMetzen | hehe, I downloaded the latest build of android 2.0.1 from xda-developers to rhodium. apparently went well, but was stopped for a couple hour in a splash screen with an X animating |
| 13:48.37 | AndreMetzen | and now I'm testing an older version in hopes of getting some success |
| 13:49.57 | phh | if they have the same problems as I have (and I think so.), you'll have to restart maybe five times to get it booted successfully |
| 13:50.05 | phh | but once he started correctly at least one time, it's ok |
| 13:51.30 | AndreMetzen | I ran a version of 1.6, but the touchscreen did not work right, leaving unusable |
| 13:51.49 | phh | use the correct msmts_calib param |
| 13:51.58 | phh | reverted axes I'd guess ? |
| 13:52.17 | TuxBrother | hmmm |
| 13:52.26 | TuxBrother | 0.16 works flawlessy |
| 13:52.31 | AndreMetzen | I tried to change the value that they suggested, but without success. ( |
| 13:52.35 | phh | TuxBrother: even touchscreen ? |
| 13:52.39 | TuxBrother | yrd |
| 13:52.45 | phh | TuxBrother: yrd ? |
| 13:52.45 | TuxBrother | *yes |
| 13:52.47 | phh | ah |
| 13:52.49 | phh | huhu |
| 13:52.53 | phh | that sounds weirD. |
| 13:52.55 | phh | d* |
| 13:52.57 | TuxBrother | but 0.17t4 |
| 13:53.04 | TuxBrother | has a frozen touchscreen |
| 13:53.16 | phh | ~xfbdev-tslib |
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| 13:53.19 | TuxBrother | but I could get through the first boot wizzard |
| 13:53.22 | phh | ~tslib-xfbdev |
| 13:53.23 | apt | well, tslib-xfbdev is TSLIB_TSDEVICE=/dev/input/eventX ts_calibrate ; Xfbdev -mouse tslib,,device=/dev/input/eventX -keybd keybd,,device=/dev/input/eventX |
| 13:53.36 | phh | TuxBrother: use this command to start X and calibrate touchscreen |
| 13:53.45 | phh | check /sys/class/input to know which eventX it is |
| 13:53.52 | phh | iirc it's event2 |
| 13:54.19 | GlemSom | phh, Ahh crap, I forgot to delete a lock file when I was testing out the stripped modules... Sorry... It should recompile any minute now. |
| 13:54.36 | phh | GlemSom: still, I often do mistakes, and I get no log |
| 13:54.49 | TuxBrother | tslib-xfbdev is TSLIB_TSDEVICE=/dev/input/event1 ts_calibrate ; Xfbdev -mouse tslib,,device=/dev/input/event1 -keybd keybd,,device=/dev/input/event1 |
| 13:54.51 | GlemSom | phh, I see your point... |
| 13:54.52 | TuxBrother | like so? |
| 13:55.04 | phh | TuxBrother: not the "tslib-xfbdev is" part :p |
| 13:55.13 | TuxBrother | ok |
| 13:55.26 | TuxBrother | "TSLIB_TSDEVICE=/dev/input/eventX ts_calibrate ; Xfbdev -mouse tslib,,device=/dev/input/eventX -keybd keybd,,device=/dev/input/eventX" |
| 13:55.28 | parmaster | whats the latest kernel version? |
| 13:55.32 | TuxBrother | this one? |
| 13:55.36 | GlemSom | phh, I thought you NEVER made mistakes... :P |
| 13:55.37 | phh | parmaster: which tree? |
| 13:55.53 | parmaster | htc msm i guess |
| 13:55.58 | phh | GlemSom: bah, in my ~ 50 commits of this holidays, three were build fixes :p |
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| 13:56.12 | phh | parmaster: seeing the name of the channel, I would have thaught so. |
| 13:56.43 | parmaster | was just curious if you know off the top of your head |
| 13:58.31 | phh | I don't even know your board ... |
| 13:58.39 | AndreMetzen | phh: again without success. an older version of 2.0.1 in bootload stopped with the message 'msm_blackstone_pad: loaded' |
| 13:59.11 | phh | AndreMetzen: in startup.txt, what is the mtype ? |
| 13:59.13 | phh | 2293 ? |
| 13:59.15 | parmaster | oh i meant for your diamond with the kick ass power management |
| 13:59.35 | phh | oh |
| 13:59.51 | phh | http://cri.ch/sven/zImage_svenk_20091231_002 |
| 13:59.54 | AndreMetzen | phh: yep. 2293 |
| 14:00.18 | phh | AndreMetzen: try with the zImage in http://zimages.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/autobuild_system/htc-msm-android/zImage-modules-20091231_150020.tar maybe |
| 14:00.41 | AndreMetzen | phh: ok, downloading... |
| 14:00.52 | phh | parmaster: the diff is supposed to be http://cri.ch/sven/changes.txt |
| 14:01.03 | parmaster | thanks! |
| 14:01.22 | DarkMasterHalo | Don't tell me we got an awesome power management for Diamond devices ! |
| 14:01.43 | phh | DarkMasterHalo: we just don't know how. |
| 14:01.45 | AndreMetzen | this kind of 'fun' can brick my phone? |
| 14:01.50 | phh | AndreMetzen: no |
| 14:01.55 | DarkMasterHalo | phh: |
| 14:02.01 | AndreMetzen | uff! :) |
| 14:02.08 | DarkMasterHalo | phh: Oups, ahah oh well, I'm sure you guys will figure it out. |
| 14:02.11 | phh | AndreMetzen: well, some blac users reported some problems |
| 14:02.18 | phh | AndreMetzen: but it seems it's because their device can't sustain heating. |
| 14:02.47 | phh | parmaster: use it with pm.sleep_mode=1 |
| 14:02.50 | AndreMetzen | Good to know, I put in my freezer:) |
| 14:02.52 | phh | to have really awesome PM management |
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| 14:03.18 | FuZi0n | good morning |
| 14:03.34 | greebear | moin |
| 14:03.44 | phh | FuZi0n: you sent me a dm file yesterday ? |
| 14:03.56 | FuZi0n | yes |
| 14:04.00 | DarkMasterHalo | Gotta try this zImage |
| 14:04.10 | phh | FuZi0n: you removed the battery to reboot ? |
| 14:04.17 | FuZi0n | uh |
| 14:04.17 | FuZi0n | yes |
| 14:04.23 | phh | don't /o\ |
| 14:04.30 | FuZi0n | oh whut |
| 14:04.36 | phh | use the red button, else dm files will be broken |
| 14:04.44 | phh | the one you sent me is just empty :p |
| 14:04.53 | phh | I mean it has 0x00 and 0xff bytes and that's all |
| 14:05.06 | FuZi0n | oooh |
| 14:05.07 | FuZi0n | right. |
| 14:05.08 | FuZi0n | okay |
| 14:05.46 | AndreMetzen | phh: I tried to xImage you gave me, and gave the same error. =/ |
| 14:06.15 | phh | AndreMetzen: it's rhod100 ? |
| 14:06.39 | phh | or it's some weird device ? |
| 14:06.48 | AndreMetzen | phh: how can i see this model? |
| 14:07.00 | phh | behind the battery |
| 14:07.06 | AndreMetzen | 1 sec |
| 14:07.27 | AndreMetzen | Htc Touch Pro2 T7373 RHOD100 |
| 14:07.34 | phh | hum. |
| 14:07.40 | phh | I don't get it then. |
| 14:07.56 | phh | oh well you're supposed to use mtype 2292 |
| 14:08.03 | phh | but still there is no reason it doesn't work with 2293 |
| 14:08.08 | phh | (2293 is TD2) |
| 14:08.29 | AndreMetzen | can i change to 2292 and try? =) |
| 14:08.47 | phh | yes |
| 14:08.57 | AndreMetzen | :) |
| 14:08.59 | phh | but I don't think it will change anything |
| 14:09.03 | AndreMetzen | sorry for the noobie questions |
| 14:09.39 | phh | I've seen worst noobs. |
| 14:10.50 | AndreMetzen | just curious ... where you are? and how much a tp2 there? |
| 14:11.21 | phh | france |
| 14:11.26 | phh | what do you mean with "how much" ? |
| 14:11.41 | AndreMetzen | sorry, how much it cost? |
| 14:11.58 | phh | way too much for me. |
| 14:12.14 | phh | something like 400€ iirc |
| 14:12.32 | magnus1 | phh: how long is haret.exe suppose to take? i extracted your package to my sd, edited STARTUP.TXT with the new mtype, and ran it. a progressbar labelled 'booting linux' completed, and now the device is unresponsive (still showing Windows mobile) |
| 14:12.33 | phh | comparing to my goold old diamond which costed me 150€, and has almost the same hardware ... |
| 14:12.46 | phh | magnus1: sounds like wrong mtype |
| 14:12.53 | phh | this progressbar shouldn't take more than 10seconds |
| 14:13.11 | magnus1 | okay |
| 14:13.15 | magnus1 | the progressbar completed, |
| 14:13.21 | magnus1 | but nothing more happens |
| 14:13.27 | phh | AndreMetzen: hum, most something like 550€ it seems |
| 14:13.29 | AndreMetzen | phh: há! parece que consegui passar daquele problema com o mtype 2292! :) |
| 14:13.40 | phh | AndreMetzen: in french or english it means ? :D |
| 14:13.41 | AndreMetzen | ops! |
| 14:13.52 | AndreMetzen | phh: there! seem to get past that problem with the 2292 mtype! :) |
| 14:14.02 | phh | seems really strange |
| 14:14.10 | AndreMetzen | sorry, my english is bad! : |
| 14:14.14 | AndreMetzen | =) |
| 14:14.21 | phh | that was no english I think :p |
| 14:14.51 | phh | and no problem about english, I think mine isn't good either :p |
| 14:15.08 | magnus1 | phh: does haret check mtype (machine type?) with the hw before doing anything? will it warn me if im trying to use an invalid mtype on my hw? |
| 14:15.09 | AndreMetzen | hhaha, you're right. is Portuguese. |
| 14:15.25 | phh | magnus1: no :'( |
| 14:15.48 | FuZi0n | phh now it didn't crash. |
| 14:15.53 | phh | FuZi0n: lol |
| 14:15.57 | FuZi0n | it's weird |
| 14:15.58 | FuZi0n | :P |
| 14:15.59 | magnus1 | is there a list of mtypes somewhere? |
| 14:16.04 | phh | FuZi0n: how much free memory ? |
| 14:16.07 | phh | magnus1: yup, source code :p |
| 14:16.15 | magnus1 | ah, ok, haret source? |
| 14:16.18 | AndreMetzen | waiting for the animation in X, hope it works this time! |
| 14:16.18 | FuZi0n | yesterday first time it crashed, then full boot, then crash, and now full boot |
| 14:16.20 | phh | no, kernel source code |
| 14:16.20 | FuZi0n | where do i see that phh |
| 14:16.23 | DarkMasterHalo | Oh damn, I love this bootscreen :) |
| 14:16.33 | phh | FuZi0n: no adb, no terminal, no telnet I guess ? |
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| 14:16.47 | parmaster | are all of you running diamond 2's? |
| 14:16.52 | phh | no I have diamond 1. |
| 14:16.57 | FuZi0n | blackstone |
| 14:17.00 | DarkMasterHalo | I have diamond 1 |
| 14:17.05 | Markinus | phh FRD666 hast tested A2DP and there is sound on BLuetooth! ;-) |
| 14:17.10 | AndreMetzen | touch pro 2 |
| 14:17.12 | phh | Markinus: good :) |
| 14:17.24 | phh | DarkMasterHalo: the best! (ok actually the worst.) |
| 14:17.28 | FuZi0n | 3g working too |
| 14:17.51 | DarkMasterHalo | phh: Hey hey, nah with Android it is the best. It has the best shape :) |
| 14:18.13 | phh | DarkMasterHalo: well, until now I needed a double sized battery, so not really. |
| 14:18.22 | phh | but now I think I'll be able to get back to the little one :D |
| 14:19.07 | AndreMetzen | this animation X is killing me! takes a long time! and every time she stops, and I think it will go to the next step and it begins again!!!! |
| 14:19.17 | phh | AndreMetzen: hehe |
| 14:19.20 | DarkMasterHalo | I hope so, there is only the SMS problem for me and power management that keeps me from using Android but now if power management is good I'm jumping |
| 14:19.21 | phh | AndreMetzen: first boot uh ? |
| 14:19.28 | AndreMetzen | phh: yes |
| 14:19.30 | phh | DarkMasterHalo: can't send sms ? |
| 14:19.35 | phh | AndreMetzen: yup this one is *really* long. |
| 14:20.13 | DarkMasterHalo | phh: I've tried everything, every solution, it is like it can't read the SMSC number for some reason. But I can receive them so it makes no sence to me. |
| 14:20.32 | phh | there is no need for SMSC number to receive sms' |
| 14:20.34 | AndreMetzen | phh: no problem! if it works I have patience to wait 24 hours! |
| 14:20.43 | phh | AndreMetzen: lol |
| 14:20.49 | phh | AndreMetzen: it shouldn't take more than 10minutes |
| 14:21.04 | AndreMetzen | better! |
| 14:21.06 | AndreMetzen | =) |
| 14:22.03 | DarkMasterHalo | phh: Hmmm, I don't know if there is better power management in the zImage from Svenk but you have to boot with the USB cable for it to charge properly. |
| 14:22.08 | FuZi0n | abduction yay |
| 14:22.16 | phh | DarkMasterHalo: yes I know |
| 14:22.22 | phh | that's a complete different story |
| 14:22.23 | DarkMasterHalo | phh: But so far, it is a brick of ice :) |
| 14:22.26 | phh | FuZi0n: still on that ? :p |
| 14:22.27 | AndreMetzen | I am very excited to run the android! I'm developing some applications for it and wanted to test on a real device. That sdk emulator sucks! |
| 14:22.29 | FuZi0n | yeah |
| 14:22.30 | FuZi0n | :P |
| 14:22.38 | phh | AndreMetzen: still not booted uh ? |
| 14:22.48 | phh | AndreMetzen: I'd need some app dev. |
| 14:22.48 | AndreMetzen | phh: nopz |
| 14:23.11 | AndreMetzen | phh: what kind of app? |
| 14:23.18 | phh | for all device-specific stuff |
| 14:23.25 | phh | setting wakeup buttons for instance |
| 14:23.52 | phh | maybe also something to manage stylus detection |
| 14:24.16 | phh | maybe something for light/proximity sensors |
| 14:24.22 | phh | well lot of fun, but I just hate java :p |
| 14:24.36 | DarkMasterHalo | phh: Ok, I'll keep it running and will try to turn on-off wireless sometimes to see how good is the power management :P |
| 14:24.52 | phh | DarkMasterHalo: wifi just don't work |
| 14:25.00 | phh | that's part of the fix |
| 14:25.21 | AndreMetzen | phh: hum .. I'm starting with the android. but can you search and if I have any information to help, help you for sure! |
| 14:25.31 | GlemSom | phh, I will look into pushing logfiles out, even though a compile failed... Though, this will require some structure changes in my system - so I will not have it done by today! (As it is now, everything is build about a working package(logfiles, timestamps, moduels etc all linked to that... And, I assume if a compile failes - it's due to a failure in the autobuild system - which you've correctly made me aware of, |
| 14:25.31 | GlemSom | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:25.32 | DarkMasterHalo | phh: Ahhh, so maybe wifi was draining a lot of power then. |
| 14:26.00 | phh | GlemSom: ok |
| 14:26.16 | phh | DarkMasterHalo: no, "just" prevents the system from sleeping. |
| 14:26.58 | phh | while with this zImage the cpu is sleeping more than 99.6% |
| 14:27.10 | phh | (true value !) |
| 14:27.47 | AndreMetzen | phh: hey! just look here and it seems to have some classes to handle sensors. should not be something hard! :) |
| 14:27.53 | DarkMasterHalo | phh: So wifi prevents the CPU from sleeping. |
| 14:28.01 | phh | AndreMetzen: not for you, sorry :p |
| 14:28.13 | phh | you have to wait for wiggleraway's driver |
| 14:28.22 | phh | DarkMasterHalo: I think it's BT actually :D |
| 14:28.42 | AndreMetzen | argh! spoiled my happiness! =/ |
| 14:29.05 | phh | AndreMetzen: no abduction for you yet, sorry :p |
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| 14:29.32 | AndreMetzen | phh: still in amination x =/ |
| 14:29.37 | FuZi0n | abduction for me yay |
| 14:29.37 | FuZi0n | :p |
| 14:29.40 | DarkMasterHalo | phh: It uses the same chip, antenna ? |
| 14:29.56 | phh | DarkMasterHalo: not same chip, but some common GPIOs |
| 14:30.01 | phh | maybe some antenna, don't know |
| 14:30.21 | phh | so when you wake up wifi, if you don't do it correctly, you wake up BT as well |
| 14:30.40 | phh | and we don't do it correctly :p |
| 14:30.41 | DarkMasterHalo | phh: Makes sence if it shares the same GPIOs |
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| 14:31.29 | DarkMasterHalo | phh: Did you figure out how to turn off BT ? |
| 14:31.41 | phh | DarkMasterHalo: echo 0 > /sys/class/rfkill/rfkill0/state |
| 14:31.42 | phh | but guess what |
| 14:31.44 | phh | it kills wifi :p |
| 14:32.08 | DarkMasterHalo | Aaha |
| 14:32.18 | DarkMasterHalo | Seems they are stuck together for the moment. |
| 14:32.36 | phh | yup. |
| 14:33.10 | AndreMetzen | I'm almost throwing my tp2 the window! |
| 14:33.19 | DarkMasterHalo | I'm wondering how Wifi-BT is handled in Windows mobile because when I use Wifi in WM it heats up my device quite fast, so I tend to never use it. |
| 14:33.50 | phh | DarkMasterHalo: bad I think, when using wifi on android it doesn't heat that much |
| 14:34.41 | DarkMasterHalo | phh: That's what I noticed too, so I guess there could be a problem here (with the hardware I mean) |
| 14:35.09 | phh | bah if in android it's ok, then it's wimo's driver :p |
| 14:35.28 | DarkMasterHalo | Hmmm bad htc :) |
| 14:36.31 | vawx | why is the console reporting stuff about a .bin file i have on my storage card... |
| 14:36.51 | phh | vawx: uh ? |
| 14:37.30 | vawx | it's doing "something" |
| 14:37.33 | vawx | takes a long time too |
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| 14:37.51 | vawx | "truncating file to ... bytes" |
| 14:38.06 | phh | your FAT has been screwed. |
| 14:38.21 | phh | but fsck is a nice guy he "repaired" it |
| 14:38.43 | DarkMasterHalo | Why can't it be a nice girl :) |
| 14:38.51 | vawx | or a nice it? |
| 14:38.59 | phh | lol |
| 14:39.07 | DarkMasterHalo | Yeah true. If you it that way. |
| 14:39.13 | DarkMasterHalo | see it* |
| 14:39.22 | AndreMetzen | phh: stuck on x animation again... argh! =/ |
| 14:39.35 | phh | AndreMetzen: really ? strange |
| 14:39.44 | phh | not impossible though |
| 14:39.57 | DarkMasterHalo | AndreMetzen: Have a tried deleted the data.img. |
| 14:40.16 | DarkMasterHalo | deleting* |
| 14:40.23 | AndreMetzen | DarkMasterHalo: just delete and try again? |
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| 14:40.32 | phh | DarkMasterHalo: I think fsck deleted it by himself :p |
| 14:40.45 | TuxBrother | no luck with Mer :p |
| 14:40.53 | phh | TuxBrother: what do you mean ? |
| 14:41.03 | TuxBrother | I've got a whole bunch with ext2 error messages |
| 14:41.06 | DarkMasterHalo | phh: Maybe it would just repair it but I guess just rename it and see what it does. |
| 14:41.07 | AndreMetzen | DarkMasterHalo: I can try. I have nothing to lose. |
| 14:41.14 | phh | TuxBrother: bah it's not a problem :p |
| 14:41.15 | phh | just run fsck |
| 14:41.16 | DarkMasterHalo | AndreMetzen: Just rename it and see. |
| 14:41.31 | AndreMetzen | DarkMasterHalo: ok... 1 sec |
| 14:41.42 | TuxBrother | I can login |
| 14:41.58 | TuxBrother | but I cant startx : command not found |
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| 14:42.16 | phh | TuxBrother: ask on #mer, I don't know much about it :/ |
| 14:42.33 | TuxBrother | no |
| 14:42.38 | TuxBrother | the problem must be |
| 14:42.41 | TuxBrother | in the kernel |
| 14:42.48 | DarkMasterHalo | phh: I can tell you so far, the pwm is awesome :) |
| 14:42.48 | TuxBrother | prevourius kernels works |
| 14:42.53 | phh | pwm ? |
| 14:43.11 | DarkMasterHalo | power management |
| 14:43.18 | phh | ok |
| 14:43.39 | phh | let the phone in sleep for 10hours |
| 14:44.00 | phh | you'll have some fears about battery indicator :p |
| 14:44.02 | AndreMetzen | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:44.15 | DarkMasterHalo | 10 hours !, without touching Android :( |
| 14:44.23 | phh | DarkMasterHalo: when you sleep ? :p |
| 14:44.34 | phh | AndreMetzen: huhu |
| 14:44.51 | DarkMasterHalo | phh: Oh well yeah, in about 10 hours, I'll got to sleep |
| 14:44.56 | phh | :) |
| 14:45.12 | DarkMasterHalo | phh: So I'll have the results in 20 hours ..... |
| 14:45.32 | vawx | phh: now sound on bluetooth works... does it mean that to get sound working on the speaker you just have to find the right "route" or is it a lot more complicated? |
| 14:45.42 | phh | vawx: lot more complicated. |
| 14:46.04 | phh | sound on BT is really easy |
| 14:46.09 | phh | it's 100% in the processor APP |
| 14:46.20 | phh | sound on speaker/headset is 99% in the MODEM processor. |
| 14:46.27 | vawx | i see |
| 14:47.07 | AndreMetzen | DarkMasterHalo: wow! I'm doing with the boot data.img renamed and is showing a huge log before start. Something like "Bad file name. Auto renaming it. Renaming to 765/000 ....." |
| 14:47.30 | DarkMasterHalo | Hey hey, In the phone information, it tells me the model number T-Mobile G1 ! |
| 14:47.58 | DarkMasterHalo | AndreMetzen: Ahah, I guess you will to get it out of the phone if it doesn't work. |
| 14:48.37 | phh | DarkMasterHalo: if that matters it's in system.sqsh/build.prop |
| 14:48.50 | AndreMetzen | I did not get |
| 14:48.58 | phh | I might do some android kitchen one day. |
| 14:49.49 | DarkMasterHalo | phh: Nah, its just really funny to see, I have a G1 ! |
| 14:49.55 | phh | :) |
| 14:50.55 | DarkMasterHalo | Hey, you guys fixed the dialer touch pad problem ?, because for me its fixed. |
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| 14:51.15 | phh | DarkMasterHalo: which one is it ? |
| 14:51.54 | AndreMetzen | I GIVE UP! the android does not like me, in any of its versions! |
| 14:51.59 | DarkMasterHalo | phh: When you try to dial a phone number, when I was pressing a number it was fine, as soon as I pressed a second one, Android was crawling. |
| 14:52.12 | DarkMasterHalo | AndreMetzen: What phone do you have ? |
| 14:52.25 | AndreMetzen | DarkMasterHalo: Rhodium |
| 14:52.52 | DarkMasterHalo | Is Rhodium supported yet with Eclair ? |
| 14:53.46 | phh | it should |
| 14:54.18 | phh | AndreMetzen: maybe try my build , who knows .... you might get lucky |
| 14:54.18 | phh | http://htcandroid.xland.cz/Eclair-2009-12-28b.7z |
| 14:54.19 | DarkMasterHalo | AndreMetzen: Maybe you've got the wrong mtype, or maybe some files are corrupted there. |
| 14:54.25 | AndreMetzen | DarkMasterHalo: I downloaded a build to rhodium in the xda-developers |
| 14:55.01 | AndreMetzen | phh: downloading... |
| 14:55.28 | phh | don't forget to change the mtype when trying it |
| 14:55.36 | DarkMasterHalo | Waiting for AndreMetzen to finish downloading and put the files on his damn phone that doesn't want to work. |
| 14:55.40 | phh | and use the same zImage as I told you to use before |
| 14:56.18 | AndreMetzen | Time for lunch here. I'll come back, hope you're here! :) |
| 14:56.43 | DarkMasterHalo | phh: Hey, the Data.img file, it is 256MB in size but does it grow as we put stuff in it ? |
| 14:57.22 | phh | DarkMasterHalo: no |
| 14:57.43 | phh | and I can't see any easy way to do that |
| 14:58.01 | DarkMasterHalo | phh: Ok, just wondering if we can hit that problem one day. |
| 14:58.39 | phh | no really, i'm usually quite imaginative for such things, but for this thing .... |
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| 14:59.23 | DarkMasterHalo | Okay, oh man it is snowing outside again :( |
| 14:59.31 | phh | we switch ? :D |
| 14:59.54 | DarkMasterHalo | WTH, after two winter you will want to switch again :P |
| 15:00.41 | DarkMasterHalo | Don't you have snow too where you live ? |
| 15:01.00 | phh | less than one week with snow on ground per year |
| 15:01.08 | DarkMasterHalo | ! |
| 15:01.33 | DarkMasterHalo | Wow, it is snowing here about 3-4 days a wekk. |
| 15:01.34 | vawx | it's rare |
| 15:01.35 | DarkMasterHalo | week* |
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| 15:02.08 | vawx | we had a huge amount of snow last week, a whopping 40 cm's! :P |
| 15:02.12 | DarkMasterHalo | One time we got like 25cm of snow in one day then another 30cm the next day. |
| 15:02.24 | phh | you lucky. |
| 15:02.47 | DarkMasterHalo | Damn, I wanted to yell outside, my car was stuck in that stupid snow, freezing at -35c |
| 15:04.31 | Markinus | phh: I posted this here, maybe you have a Idea? . . http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5257152&postcount=1435 |
| 15:05.22 | Markinus | P.S. we have snow too, 5 cm . . But for middle in germany is this much! ;-) |
| 15:06.14 | DarkMasterHalo | I always find it funny to see how it is so different outside of different countries :) |
| 15:13.19 | phh | Markinus: I was already aware of that, and no, no idea. |
| 15:16.07 | AndreMetzen | phh: hi again! |
| 15:16.21 | Markinus | on the older kernel we could make a call bur hear only on one side. We changed something, but what . . hmmmm |
| 15:16.21 | phh | AndreMetzen: mm ? |
| 15:16.56 | AndreMetzen | phh: im trying your build. and i'm getting a lot of errors like "end_request: I/O error, dev mmcblk0p1..." |
| 15:17.15 | phh | AndreMetzen: ouch |
| 15:17.32 | phh | AndreMetzen: change your sdcard :p |
| 15:17.39 | phh | or underclock it |
| 15:17.42 | AndreMetzen | phh: but its not the first build i get this errors |
| 15:17.48 | AndreMetzen | underclock? |
| 15:18.04 | phh | add msmsdcc_fmax=10000000 to your cmdline in startup.txt |
| 15:18.14 | AndreMetzen | ok |
| 15:20.32 | AndreMetzen | phh: so far so good |
| 15:20.51 | phh | if you still got some mmc errors, add msmsdcc_1bit |
| 15:21.22 | AndreMetzen | ok |
| 15:23.31 | AndreMetzen | i get some "mmc0: command timeout" |
| 15:23.40 | phh | these are normals |
| 15:24.07 | AndreMetzen | ok... now i'm on the x animation :) |
| 15:27.27 | AndreMetzen | phh: WOW! it works! |
| 15:27.32 | phh | cool. |
| 15:27.53 | AndreMetzen | phh: but the screen is rotate |
| 15:28.18 | AndreMetzen | ops, not anymore =) |
| 15:28.26 | phh | it's some stuff with the keyboard |
| 15:28.33 | phh | I've none so I can't say how this is supposed to behave |
| 15:28.51 | vawx | phh: good news... |
| 15:28.54 | vawx | adb working |
| 15:29.02 | AndreMetzen | no touchscreen |
| 15:29.08 | AndreMetzen | =/ |
| 15:29.09 | phh | vawx: aand you changed what ? |
| 15:29.13 | phh | AndreMetzen: you're sure ? :p |
| 15:29.17 | phh | AndreMetzen: you're on the android logo ? |
| 15:29.26 | vawx | phh: i actually loaded markinus kernel v11 just now |
| 15:29.29 | vawx | with donut |
| 15:29.37 | vawx | could be that the donut part is more important... :P |
| 15:29.47 | vawx | but i'm in adb shell now |
| 15:30.09 | AndreMetzen | phh: i pass this logo... but cant procced |
| 15:30.34 | phh | FuZi0n: oh btw, if you can get adb/terminal/telnet working, I'll try to get backlight off working |
| 15:30.51 | phh | AndreMetzen: oh, see rhodium's builds startup.txt for correct msmts_calib setting |
| 15:31.05 | AndreMetzen | phh: ok! |
| 15:31.36 | AndreMetzen | phh: should i remove the data.img? or just change de startup.txt and reboot? |
| 15:31.48 | phh | just change startup.txt |
| 15:31.53 | AndreMetzen | thanks |
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| 15:37.40 | AndreMetzen | phh: touchscreen perfect! |
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| 15:40.31 | AndreMetzen | hahahaha |
| 15:40.47 | AndreMetzen | phh: its working really fine!!! |
| 15:40.56 | phh | which build do you use now ? |
| 15:40.58 | phh | the one I posted ? |
| 15:41.04 | AndreMetzen | phh: yes! |
| 15:41.10 | phh | cool |
| 15:41.23 | AndreMetzen | phh: its only rotate, but its not a bad thing! =) |
| 15:42.16 | vawx | have you tried pulling out stylus? |
| 15:42.37 | phh | oh right I forgot that. |
| 15:42.53 | AndreMetzen | hahahaha |
| 15:42.56 | AndreMetzen | of course |
| 15:43.11 | DarkMasterHalo | Pulling out the stylus when the device is on sleep doesn't wake it up. |
| 15:43.15 | AndreMetzen | my stylus was out to put the sd card! =D |
| 15:43.38 | vawx | stylus is trigger for keyboard out iirc |
| 15:43.39 | phh | DarkMasterHalo: basically android sucks. |
| 15:43.45 | phh | vawx: not for diamond :p |
| 15:43.58 | vawx | oh thought it was a different device |
| 15:44.12 | vawx | rhod has the stylus trigger |
| 15:44.14 | AndreMetzen | ops |
| 15:44.23 | AndreMetzen | it just turn off |
| 15:44.29 | AndreMetzen | automatically |
| 15:44.52 | phh | AndreMetzen: wifi/data connection works ? |
| 15:45.09 | AndreMetzen | now not even the screen works |
| 15:45.09 | AndreMetzen | wait |
| 15:45.12 | tornador | while trying to compile the modules, i get arm-none-linux-gnueabi-gcc: command not foun i guess its PATH related, but i cant fix it... |
| 15:45.43 | AndreMetzen | =/ i have to soft-reset now =/ |
| 15:45.44 | phh | tornador: export PATH=$PATH:/where/is/the/crosscompilator/bin/ |
| 15:47.20 | AndreMetzen | if someday, android run on flashed on my device, would it run faster? |
| 15:47.36 | tornador | phh: worked |
| 15:47.55 | phh | AndreMetzen: yes/no |
| 15:48.11 | AndreMetzen | phh: is this a maybe? |
| 15:48.20 | phh | current eclair build is known to be slow, it can be faster, but not linked with the fact it is flashed |
| 15:48.30 | phh | flashing might help loading times, but that's it |
| 15:48.45 | AndreMetzen | hum |
| 15:48.47 | AndreMetzen | makes sense |
| 15:48.58 | AndreMetzen | talking about sense... what about sense ui? =D |
| 15:49.41 | phh | I won't do that, but someones are trying to do that. |
| 15:51.07 | tornador | all the compilling went good except at the end, with /build.sh: 18: pushd: not found |
| 15:51.07 | tornador | arm-none-linux-gnueabi-strip: '*ko': No such file |
| 15:51.07 | tornador | ./build.sh: 21: popd: not found |
| 15:51.17 | phh | tornador: use bash instead of sh |
| 15:52.00 | ICEMANno1 | great with Markinus new kernel, i was able to call and listen ev |
| 15:52.18 | ICEMANno1 | works great, except, no ringtone was apearing |
| 15:52.35 | AndreMetzen | phh: no wifi |
| 15:52.51 | phh | AndreMetzen: you copied the modules-xxxxxx.tar.gz file in the root of the sdcard ? |
| 15:52.55 | phh | with the exact same name |
| 15:53.20 | AndreMetzen | phh: no! should i do that? =/ |
| 15:53.34 | phh | for wifi yes :p |
| 15:53.40 | phh | AndreMetzen: it means that data connection works ... ? |
| 15:54.05 | AndreMetzen | phh: im trying... |
| 15:54.14 | phh | ok |
| 15:54.27 | vawx | phh: bluetooth on and off and on works |
| 15:54.40 | phh | vawx: not with my kernels I guess ? |
| 15:54.43 | Markinus | ICEMANno1: you cann call without a kernel crash???? TD2? |
| 15:54.50 | vawx | no, but i can try in a bit |
| 15:54.50 | AndreMetzen | phh: how can i set up the APN? |
| 15:55.13 | vawx | calling? oh ill try that too then hehe |
| 15:55.41 | phh | AndreMetzen: haha, it's tricky whern you've never done it, settings -> wireless network -> mobile data connection (or something like that) -> access points (ok that's the easy part) |
| 15:56.00 | phh | then press the menu button, and select new (or add, well you see what it means.) |
| 15:56.07 | AndreMetzen | há! |
| 15:56.12 | phh | menu button is the windows button I think for you |
| 15:56.22 | AndreMetzen | uhum |
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| 15:56.37 | vawx | Markinus: freeze for me, so wonder how he did that |
| 15:56.46 | ICEMANno1_ | yep, calling works |
| 15:57.00 | phh | well you have only 4 buttons, three are obvious, so it's the fourth one :p |
| 15:57.00 | Markinus | do you have a TD2?? |
| 15:57.05 | ICEMANno1_ | BT on/off works too, but pairing with my notebook didnt work |
| 15:57.06 | phh | ICEMANno1_: which android build ? |
| 15:57.12 | ICEMANno1 | yep, calling works |
| 15:57.12 | ICEMANno1_ | yep topaz/td2 |
| 15:57.18 | ICEMANno1_ | phh: not yours :P |
| 15:57.24 | phh | ICEMANno1_: sure, but again which one ? |
| 15:57.29 | ICEMANno1_ | everything from Markinus |
| 15:57.30 | phh | I guess they haven't all the same rild. |
| 15:57.47 | vawx | idem here, but mine froze after 9 seconds |
| 15:58.16 | Markinus | yes ,thi s is a timeout . . he is waiting for response and then crashing after 10 secs. |
| 15:58.23 | ICEMANno1 | mine didnt freez |
| 15:58.29 | ICEMANno1 | and i tried it with an incoming call |
| 15:58.32 | phh | ICEMANno1: give dmesg. |
| 15:58.47 | ICEMANno1 | but i didnt try it for 10sec i gess |
| 15:58.50 | Markinus | do yous use the complete package from me? |
| 15:58.58 | AndreMetzen | damn! |
| 15:58.59 | ICEMANno1 | let me try again |
| 15:59.02 | ICEMANno1 | Markinus: yes |
| 15:59.05 | phh | AndreMetzen: ? |
| 15:59.06 | AndreMetzen | how can i turn off a calling? |
| 15:59.13 | phh | the end key ? :p |
| 15:59.24 | AndreMetzen | the end button doesnt work |
| 15:59.30 | phh | ah. |
| 15:59.30 | vawx | powe rkey |
| 15:59.33 | phh | remove the battery ? :p |
| 15:59.36 | AndreMetzen | hhaa |
| 15:59.47 | AndreMetzen | it turn off automatically |
| 15:59.52 | vawx | magic |
| 15:59.58 | AndreMetzen | end button does not work |
| 16:00.12 | ICEMANno1 | by the way, can we switch the top key with the "end call" key like a couple of weeks ago? |
| 16:00.12 | AndreMetzen | nice way to discover tha |
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| 16:01.32 | ICEMANno1 | great |
| 16:01.41 | ICEMANno1 | after 33sec i stopped :D |
| 16:01.43 | Markinus | ICEMANno1:I think so it'S becouse you can end a call with the same button as under winmo |
| 16:01.52 | Markinus | very intresting . . |
| 16:02.05 | vawx | so iceman, with sound and mic? |
| 16:02.09 | Markinus | can you send me your dm.txt please? |
| 16:02.10 | ICEMANno1 | yep |
| 16:02.14 | ICEMANno1 | yep |
| 16:02.21 | vawx | did you do the wimo in call trick? |
| 16:02.42 | ICEMANno1 | nope |
| 16:02.51 | vawx | bluetooth or phone? |
| 16:02.57 | ICEMANno1 | phone |
| 16:03.45 | ICEMANno1 | rebooting so i can download dm.txt |
| 16:03.58 | AndreMetzen | phh: data connection working! |
| 16:04.11 | phh | sounds weird, but cool. |
| 16:04.18 | phh | vawx: why didn't it work for you uh ? :p |
| 16:04.24 | vawx | i have no idea |
| 16:04.40 | phh | never trust users. |
| 16:04.41 | Markinus | ICEMANno1: Whitch radio version du you have? |
| 16:04.51 | phh | bur when you don't have the phone, which user to trust ? :D |
| 16:04.52 | ICEMANno1 | data worked too, which i will also recognize on my phone bill! |
| 16:05.20 | Markinus | ICEMANno1: BT/WLAN? |
| 16:05.45 | vawx | 2nd try still freeze on mine |
| 16:05.49 | vawx | bt and wlan worked perfectly |
| 16:05.50 | ICEMANno1 | BT just on/off, the pairing with my laptop didnt |
| 16:06.03 | vawx | except that finding services on my laptop is weird |
| 16:06.08 | ICEMANno1 | WLAN just on/off, no networks found |
| 16:06.19 | vawx | did manage to connect some phone audio thing... whatever tha tdoes |
| 16:06.22 | ICEMANno1 | Markinus: can u pm me your emailadress |
| 16:06.37 | phh | it's an eclair build ? |
| 16:06.42 | vawx | donut |
| 16:06.44 | phh | ok |
| 16:06.50 | phh | I haven't been able to get BT working on eclair |
| 16:06.59 | phh | I don't try much though, but it seems a bit harder than donut. |
| 16:07.12 | vawx | shall i try your kernel on donut? |
| 16:07.16 | ICEMANno1 | Markinus: my radio is 4.49.25.17 |
| 16:07.33 | phh | vawx: bah it's good to see if there is anything that doesn't work the same as Markinus' kernel |
| 16:08.12 | vawx | iceman: same radio version here |
| 16:08.14 | phh | and you might even have a better PM with it.... or not. |
| 16:08.20 | Markinus | here too . . |
| 16:08.44 | ToAsTcfh | phh: did u see the logcat i posted for camera lastnight? |
| 16:08.51 | phh | ToAsTcfh: yup |
| 16:08.55 | vawx | maybe it's just cause i never call? and that wimo doesn't even remember how it works? :D |
| 16:08.56 | ICEMANno1 | Markinus, phh want my dm.txt? |
| 16:09.00 | ToAsTcfh | the second one |
| 16:09.02 | phh | ICEMANno1: yup. |
| 16:09.02 | ToAsTcfh | ? |
| 16:09.08 | phh | ToAsTcfh: yes |
| 16:09.14 | phh | ToAsTcfh: I read logs. |
| 16:09.20 | ICEMANno1 | Markinus, phh then I need your email addresses |
| 16:09.26 | phh | phhusson@free.fr |
| 16:09.26 | ToAsTcfh | whats it look like to u |
| 16:09.27 | Markinus | can you send me directly here? Right mous on my name and send file? |
| 16:09.30 | vawx | pastebin.com is nice too |
| 16:09.32 | phh | ToAsTcfh: wrong driver |
| 16:09.36 | ICEMANno1 | true |
| 16:09.40 | tornador | i have now the modules in one folder, and the wlan.ko in other, how do i move the compiled wlan.ko into the package with modules? |
| 16:09.40 | phh | vawx: yes it works too. |
| 16:09.55 | ToAsTcfh | kernel driver? |
| 16:10.02 | phh | ToAsTcfh: or android driver |
| 16:10.04 | phh | it's a point of view :p |
| 16:10.12 | ToAsTcfh | lol |
| 16:10.15 | ToAsTcfh | hater |
| 16:10.32 | ToAsTcfh | any ideas? |
| 16:10.43 | ToAsTcfh | \my camera works in 1.5 |
| 16:10.50 | ToAsTcfh | but not 2.0 |
| 16:10.59 | ICEMANno1 | Markinus: DCC doesnt work for me here |
| 16:11.03 | ICEMANno1 | didnt config it |
| 16:11.14 | ToAsTcfh | they added the liboemcamera in 2.0 |
| 16:12.17 | ToAsTcfh | so the only thing to do is to try and revert the driver for android? |
| 16:12.21 | vawx | phh: which kernel should i try? |
| 16:12.23 | vawx | latest? |
| 16:12.41 | phh | mmm let's say yes. |
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| 16:12.56 | ICEMANno1 | http://pastebin.com/m26d0369e |
| 16:13.06 | ICEMANno1 | here u go Markinus and pH5 |
| 16:13.10 | ICEMANno1 | here u go Markinus and phh |
| 16:13.19 | ICEMANno1 | tell me if it helps |
| 16:13.25 | Markinus | thx! |
| 16:13.26 | ToAsTcfh | phh: so im doomed. lol |
| 16:13.57 | phh | ToAsTcfh: really, you should use v4l2 driver, and write (or search, I guess there are already some) android v4l2 driver |
| 16:14.30 | phh | ICEMANno1: nothing in it |
| 16:14.50 | ICEMANno1 | phh: so what to do now? |
| 16:15.28 | phh | ICEMANno1: just to be sure, you have the pwf dm.txt thingy in the startup.txt file, and after your call-test, you rebooted once again on android and only then sent dm.txt ? |
| 16:16.01 | ICEMANno1 | nope |
| 16:16.03 | ICEMANno1 | no reboot |
| 16:16.18 | phh | it's the way you have to do it if you have pwf dm.txt in startup.txt. |
| 16:16.26 | ICEMANno1 | started android, tested it, returned into wimo and sent the dm.txt |
| 16:16.26 | Markinus | this logfile is from other kernel .. can you please boot a time more? |
| 16:16.31 | Markinus | this isn-ät from my kernel |
| 16:16.39 | ICEMANno1 | ahh, k :D |
| 16:16.40 | phh | because the logs you gave is from a kernel that has exited at ~ 1am |
| 16:16.49 | ICEMANno1 | hmm, k :D |
| 16:16.55 | ICEMANno1 | booting atm... |
| 16:16.57 | vawx | what you can also do is, now that adb works, adb shell and run dmesg from there |
| 16:17.06 | phh | vawx: well now that he rebooted he can't |
| 16:17.10 | ICEMANno1 | ahh, adb works |
| 16:17.11 | ICEMANno1 | great |
| 16:17.16 | phh | vawx: oh well, please try if adb still works with my kernel |
| 16:17.24 | vawx | kernel panic on your just now |
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| 16:17.34 | phh | ok, try adding mem=107m |
| 16:17.39 | vawx | oh still have rootfs from markinus build |
| 16:17.41 | ICEMANno1 | adb works, great!!! |
| 16:17.42 | vawx | does that matter? |
| 16:17.46 | phh | not at all |
| 16:18.23 | ICEMANno1 | how can i receive with adb the dm.txt? |
| 16:18.28 | vawx | adb shell |
| 16:18.31 | vawx | dmesg |
| 16:18.33 | vawx | copy paste |
| 16:18.37 | ICEMANno1 | k |
| 16:18.44 | phh | adb pull /sdcar/dm.txt . |
| 16:18.45 | phh | works too |
| 16:18.53 | vawx | yeah but taht would be the old one |
| 16:19.01 | phh | bah it's the one we want :p |
| 16:19.05 | vawx | true |
| 16:19.17 | vawx | but the dmesg can be done after call |
| 16:19.23 | phh | yes |
| 16:20.23 | ICEMANno1 | http://pastebin.com/d66fd8cd5 |
| 16:20.25 | ICEMANno1 | here we go |
| 16:21.51 | ICEMANno1 | and phh, Markinus ? |
| 16:22.00 | Markinus | thx! |
| 16:22.43 | ToAsTcfh | phh: which devices have used it? arm7? |
| 16:22.51 | phh | ToAsTcfh: ? |
| 16:23.15 | ToAsTcfh | like what devices have had it writen for it |
| 16:23.44 | ToAsTcfh | ive been searching but i get salot of computers using it |
| 16:23.50 | vawx | phh: android is booting (boot logo) |
| 16:25.08 | ICEMANno1 | Markinus, phh wlan works now!!! |
| 16:25.13 | ICEMANno1 | BT still doesnt |
| 16:25.55 | Markinus | can you enable BT? See you the devices? |
| 16:26.00 | vawx | ok, phh you might want to check with markinus on the usb part |
| 16:26.07 | vawx | adb does not work |
| 16:26.23 | Markinus | you have to have the cable in on boot . . |
| 16:26.30 | vawx | yes |
| 16:26.48 | vawx | bluetooth does not activate either |
| 16:26.51 | ICEMANno1 | Markinus: yes, i can see the devices |
| 16:27.07 | Markinus | but you cannot connect? |
| 16:27.11 | ToAsTcfh | phh: i just kinda want something close to start with building |
| 16:27.11 | tornador | is the last kernel at glemsoms working or it gives reboot in 7sec_ |
| 16:27.13 | tornador | ? |
| 16:28.17 | ICEMANno1 | Markinus: yes, it gets a problem on pairing |
| 16:28.51 | Markinus | did you try a other device as PC? Headset or s`? |
| 16:29.01 | ICEMANno1 | dont have another one :) |
| 16:29.08 | Markinus | ok ;-) |
| 16:29.49 | ICEMANno1 | phh, Markinus did the dm.txt help? |
| 16:30.09 | Markinus | I'm looking now . .. need some time to compare. . |
| 16:30.14 | ICEMANno1 | k :) |
| 16:33.00 | ICEMANno1 | how can i kill some progs on android which are running |
| 16:33.07 | AndreMetzen | ok, i'm really missing the end button =/ |
| 16:33.32 | ICEMANno1 | when i push the top button a couple of seconds, i can see the apps which are running |
| 16:33.46 | TuxBrother | hey |
| 16:33.51 | TuxBrother | that happend me too |
| 16:33.51 | AndreMetzen | phh: do you know how can i get the end button to work? |
| 16:34.49 | phh | fix the code ! :p |
| 16:34.59 | AndreMetzen | shit! what code? =D |
| 16:35.52 | vawx | ok phh, just to sum it up: wlan=yes, bt=no, adb=no, 3g still testing |
| 16:36.10 | phh | AndreMetzen: board-htctopaz-keypad.c I guess |
| 16:37.29 | AndreMetzen | phh: if i extract those modules-xxxxxxx.tar.gz files now i have to delete the data.img? |
| 16:37.37 | phh | ?!? |
| 16:37.40 | phh | don't extract this fine |
| 16:37.43 | phh | just put it in the root |
| 16:37.47 | phh | and no need to delete data.img |
| 16:41.57 | tornador | is the last kernel doing the kernel panic message? |
| 16:41.59 | AndreMetzen | phh: i think that android is rendering outside the screen... |
| 16:42.09 | AndreMetzen | phh: you know why? |
| 16:42.17 | phh | ?!? |
| 16:42.28 | phh | with some precise app or something ? |
| 16:42.51 | ICEMANno1 | hmm, wifi is not very stable |
| 16:43.03 | ICEMANno1 | it just disconnected and could find any networks anymore |
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| 16:43.17 | ICEMANno1 | after a couple of enable/disables its connected again |
| 16:43.18 | AndreMetzen | phh: maybe the touchscreen its not well calibrate... |
| 16:43.47 | phh | Markinus: ICEMANno1 has the timeout things, but still the kernel doesn't crash |
| 16:44.06 | ICEMANno1 | has an awsome phone!!! ;) |
| 16:44.27 | tornador | phh - if i compile the kernel from the git updated repo, will it give the kernel panic? |
| 16:44.40 | phh | ToAsTcfh: it will give the same result as glemsom's kernel :p |
| 16:44.55 | phh | tornador: * |
| 16:44.57 | phh | not ToAsTcfh. |
| 16:45.24 | Markinus | hmm, on the end of the logfile. .. |
| 16:45.53 | tornador | phh - and anyone here tried the last glemsom kernel and can say me if it does the kernel panic message and reboot? |
| 16:46.08 | phh | tornador: for some people it works |
| 16:46.11 | phh | for some other it crashes. |
| 16:46.20 | phh | I have absolutely no clue of why does it. |
| 16:46.23 | ICEMANno1 | ahhh, how can i open a txt file on andoid from / |
| 16:46.41 | ICEMANno1 | and the copy its content to clipboard |
| 16:52.23 | phh | tornador: pull again, I "fixed" it |
| 16:54.43 | tornador | thanks phh |
| 16:54.55 | phh | I think I did at least |
| 16:56.01 | tornador | phh - im building zimgae |
| 16:56.18 | tornador | were any change on the modules or can i use the ones i build 1h ago? |
| 16:56.38 | phh | no changes but you have to rebuild it though |
| 16:56.58 | tornador | ok |
| 16:57.14 | phh | if you want to use it. |
| 16:57.51 | tornador | phh - just to know if im doing it right, i build the zimage, then i build the modules, then i build the wlan.ko, then i put wlan.ko in the modules and its done. or have i made any error... |
| 16:58.14 | phh | no it's fine |
| 16:58.55 | tornador | phh - if i not build the modules, is just wifi that will fail? |
| 16:59.30 | phh | yes |
| 17:00.54 | phh | still so black user around with adb or telnet or terminal around btw ? |
| 17:01.06 | tornador | it has errors on it... |
| 17:01.07 | tornador | arch/arm/mach-msm/built-in.o: In function `htcraphael_fixup': |
| 17:01.07 | tornador | arch/arm/mach-msm/built-in.o: In function `blac_fixup': |
| 17:01.19 | phh | oops |
| 17:01.20 | phh | thanks |
| 17:01.25 | tornador | also in `htctopaz_fixup': |
| 17:01.33 | tornador | and `htctrhodium_fixup': |
| 17:01.49 | phh | I always forget to check if it builds :D |
| 17:01.58 | phh | even if I can't see where i'm wrong |
| 17:02.21 | tornador | want the full error log? |
| 17:02.24 | tornador | with the lines... |
| 17:02.47 | tornador | arch/arm/mach-msm/built-in.o: In function `htcraphael_fixup': |
| 17:02.47 | tornador | arch/arm/mach-msm/built-in.o: In function `blac_fixup': |
| 17:02.47 | tornador | arch/arm/mach-msm/built-in.o: In function `htctopaz_fixup': |
| 17:02.47 | tornador | arch/arm/mach-msm/built-in.o: In function `htcrhodium_fixup': |
| 17:02.47 | tornador | make: *** [.tmp_vmlinux1] Error 1 |
| 17:02.50 | phh | aaahhhh |
| 17:02.51 | phh | ok. |
| 17:03.06 | phh | I forgot to commit pmem.c |
| 17:03.20 | tornador | when done say me and i will pull and build |
| 17:04.06 | GlemSom | phh, yeah, there we needed the buildlogs... :/ |
| 17:04.35 | phh | GlemSom: don't worry it's just because of the holidays, I won't do any mistake again after monday :p |
| 17:04.46 | GlemSom | hahaha ok :D |
| 17:04.48 | phh | tornador: done |
| 17:05.05 | GlemSom | guesses phh had too many beers last night :P |
| 17:05.17 | phh | I hate everything that has alcohol. |
| 17:05.36 | phh | (ok, some beers are good, and some muscat too) |
| 17:05.55 | AndreMetzen | phh: i'm trying to see the kernel code on git repository. witch branch is best for the rhodium? |
| 17:07.15 | phh | AndreMetzen: http://gitorious.org/linux-on-qualcomm-s-msm/linux-msm/commits/htc-msm-2.6.27 or http://gitorious.org/~mweirauch/linux-on-qualcomm-s-msm/linux-msm-topaz/commits/htc-msm-2.6.27 |
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| 17:08.31 | tornador | phh - dont know if its useful but |
| 17:08.31 | tornador | In file included from arch/arm/mach-msm/pmem.c:19: |
| 17:08.31 | tornador | include/linux/android_pmem.h:74: warning: 'struct inode' declared inside parameter list |
| 17:08.31 | tornador | include/linux/android_pmem.h:74: warning: its scope is only this definition or declaration, which is probably not what you want |
| 17:08.32 | tornador | arch/arm/mach-msm/pmem.c:191: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype |
| 17:08.32 | tornador | arch/arm/mach-msm/pmem.c:255: warning: initialization from incompatible pointer type |
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| 17:08.58 | phh | I know. |
| 17:09.13 | tornador | ok |
| 17:09.48 | phh | and the status is something like "don't care" or "won't fix" or "it will be fixed when it will be fixed" or "it will be fixed when nothing else has to be fixed" |
| 17:10.08 | ICEMANno1 | Markinus, phh I'll do a call again and pastebin the dmesg |
| 17:10.26 | phh | ICEMANno1: do dmesg -c before doing dmesg |
| 17:11.02 | ICEMANno1 | what does -c do? |
| 17:11.07 | phh | clear |
| 17:11.10 | ICEMANno1 | k |
| 17:11.11 | Markinus | yes, would be great . |
| 17:11.15 | ICEMANno1 | so -c |
| 17:11.18 | ICEMANno1 | then call |
| 17:11.20 | ICEMANno1 | then dmesg |
| 17:11.22 | ICEMANno1 | right? |
| 17:11.37 | phh | yup |
| 17:13.15 | ICEMANno1 | i need to boot android again |
| 17:13.18 | mattias_ | hi! how can i build the modules from compat-wireless-msm ? |
| 17:13.40 | ICEMANno1 | my brother has thrown the phone on the floor which resulted in a flighting battery |
| 17:14.09 | Battousai | android's one true weakness is that it cannot run without a battery |
| 17:14.10 | Markinus | ohhh |
| 17:14.40 | Battousai | more of a hardware failure really |
| 17:14.42 | phh | Battousai: wrong. |
| 17:14.46 | ICEMANno1 | my topaz was flying last couple of days a lot :) |
| 17:14.48 | phh | it can run with an usb power supply. |
| 17:15.02 | Battousai | :) |
| 17:15.03 | phh | mattias_: you don't want to, do you |
| 17:15.03 | phh | ? |
| 17:15.48 | phh | tornador: works better now btw ? |
| 17:15.58 | mattias_ | a least i would like to try it... |
| 17:16.02 | phh | mattias_: why ? |
| 17:16.13 | vawx | what does the bluetooth thing in android do called "Connected to phone audio" |
| 17:16.17 | vawx | is that calling sound? |
| 17:16.20 | phh | yes |
| 17:16.39 | vawx | so in theory if i make a call my laptop would do the audio now? |
| 17:16.59 | phh | no. |
| 17:17.02 | phh | well |
| 17:17.06 | phh | if everything worked well yes |
| 17:17.09 | phh | but it doesn't |
| 17:17.18 | mattias_ | because glemsom autobuild is a bit slow |
| 17:17.22 | phh | we don't how to tell the modem to route audio |
| 17:17.29 | ToAsTcfh | phh: so what device uses the v4l2 driver? so i got something to work from |
| 17:17.39 | phh | mattias_: yes and ? |
| 17:17.40 | tornador | phh - booting |
| 17:17.44 | phh | ToAsTcfh: don't now, omap devices I guess |
| 17:17.53 | phh | mattias_: I'm sure you don't actually want compat-wireless-msm :p |
| 17:18.13 | ToAsTcfh | hmm they prolly wont be much help i take it |
| 17:18.21 | vawx | just froze again anywway... after the 9 seconds |
| 17:18.24 | mattias_ | phh: ok, why? |
| 17:18.35 | GlemSom | yeah, I my computer lost network connection - so the GIT checkout failed... The system detected that - and to be sure, it re-downloads the entire GIT tree... It will take a little while longer... |
| 17:18.36 | phh | mattias_: wifi in eclair builds don't usei t |
| 17:18.44 | ICEMANno1 | hmmm, now my phone crashed |
| 17:18.45 | phh | GlemSom: ARGH |
| 17:19.08 | GlemSom | phh, Wow, I could almost hear that here in Denmark... |
| 17:19.09 | GlemSom | :D |
| 17:19.13 | phh | :p |
| 17:19.15 | mattias_ | phh: ok, i see, i have to read the last irc logs ... |
| 17:19.20 | phh | mattias_: no |
| 17:19.25 | tornador | phh - OK |
| 17:19.31 | phh | mattias_: I just mean you really don't need compat-wireless-msm modules |
| 17:19.43 | phh | well, maybe you really want it |
| 17:19.46 | phh | but I don't think so |
| 17:20.08 | tornador | phh, fixed afaik |
| 17:20.19 | phh | tornador: ok |
| 17:20.23 | phh | so it seems reaaly strange |
| 17:20.42 | mattias_ | phh: which source is than used for the wlan module? |
| 17:21.06 | phh | mattias_: read GlemSom's page :p |
| 17:21.08 | phh | http://zimages.googlecode.com/files/sta_dk_4_0_4_32.tar.gz |
| 17:21.26 | mattias_ | phh: thanks |
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| 17:28.03 | ICEMANno1 | Markinus, phh hers is my new dm.txt which was the crashing one |
| 17:28.04 | ICEMANno1 | http://pastebin.com/m34451c01 |
| 17:28.17 | phh | crashing ... ? |
| 17:28.20 | phh | I thaught it didn't crash |
| 17:28.29 | ICEMANno1 | now it did |
| 17:28.41 | phh | [ 473.499633] [<c0031498>] (handle_modem_crash+0x0/0x60) from [<c00322c8>] (smsm_irq_handler+0x70/0x108) |
| 17:28.48 | phh | the kernel crashes when handling modem's crashes. |
| 17:28.49 | phh | why not. |
| 17:29.12 | Markinus | yes . .. hmm |
| 17:29.15 | tornador | phh - i need a bit help here... i was trying to compile the last kernel with a file from previuous parent SHA1 |
| 17:29.17 | phh | Markinus: just thinking, for your random wifi stuff, try removing wl1251_sdio from the modules |
| 17:29.37 | ICEMANno1 | hmm, again |
| 17:29.41 | tornador | but its given me an error in that file |
| 17:29.43 | ICEMANno1 | and both times with no sound |
| 17:30.09 | phh | Markinus: if you have both wl1251_sdio AND wlan driver loaded at the same time, it's a game of who will take over the MMC the first. |
| 17:30.58 | Markinus | okay, I will test it. . . |
| 17:31.01 | tornador | phh - here is the error log, if you could check and say me if there is a workiaround would be good http://pastebin.com/m575c6cec |
| 17:32.01 | phh | use git bissect. |
| 17:32.20 | phh | but I think it's because the "merge" failed |
| 17:32.30 | phh | look at the file and search for <<<<< strings |
| 17:33.29 | phh | GlemSom: oO |
| 17:33.29 | phh | GlemSom: that was fast |
| 17:33.37 | GlemSom | phh, :P |
| 17:33.43 | phh | GlemSom: you cheated didn't you ? :p |
| 17:33.50 | vawx | is donut missing bluetooth stacks? |
| 17:33.56 | GlemSom | nope... Downloaded GIT and started the compile by hand :P |
| 17:34.00 | phh | vawx: not my release :p |
| 17:34.23 | vawx | well, as the only option my phone finds is headset |
| 17:34.28 | tornador | the diff with commits its here - http://gitorious.org/linux-on-qualcomm-s-msm/linux-msm/commit/51087c52f6224b44e62817aa83ddd3c1e1e4cbfa?diffmode=sidebyside |
| 17:35.36 | tornador | as you changed the file, i would like to know if there may is a way to use the old file (before the commit) |
| 17:35.52 | phh | git revert 51087c52f6224b44e62817aa83ddd3c1e1e4cbfa |
| 17:35.58 | phh | but I'm pretty sure it's not the cause of black's problems |
| 17:36.10 | phh | but test it anyway. |
| 17:36.21 | tornador | sure, just a test |
| 17:37.08 | tornador | i was looking further and the screen problem stared here |
| 17:37.18 | tornador | Date: Sat Dec 26 15:40:28 2009 +0100 OK, NO PROBL |
| 17:37.18 | tornador | 3dbed4880e125d0aff7980f5991cd80289d3a72c |
| 17:37.18 | tornador | Date: Sat Dec 26 17:36:08 2009 +0100 WITH PROBL |
| 17:37.18 | tornador | 51087c52f6224b44e62817aa83ddd3c1e1e4cbfa |
| 17:37.25 | tornador | so i was just doing an experiemnt |
| 17:37.34 | Markinus | phh: I made it like Blackstone, the wl1251 is loading bevor android starts and the wlan.ko if you enable wlan from settings. I thought we need both, like Blackstone . . do you meen we can remove one of them? |
| 17:37.51 | phh | Markinus: blackstone don't need both :p |
| 17:37.59 | phh | on donut release it uses wl1251, on eclair ones it uses wlan |
| 17:38.04 | Markinus | but in ther images its so! |
| 17:38.09 | phh | uh ? |
| 17:38.20 | phh | I might have done something wrong then |
| 17:38.24 | phh | oh well |
| 17:38.28 | phh | Markinus: that's a fake :D |
| 17:38.37 | phh | Markinus: the insmod is here but it can't actually load the module |
| 17:38.52 | tornador | with hit rever i got: |
| 17:38.53 | phh | because the module is for 2.6.25 kernel |
| 17:39.07 | Markinus | yeah, so I compiled a new one . .. . owghhh |
| 17:39.08 | tornador | skilo@Eskilo:~/mydroid/linux-msm$ git revert 51087c52f6224b44e62817aa83ddd3c1e1e4cbfa |
| 17:39.08 | tornador | error: Entry 'drivers/input/touchscreen/msm_ts.c' not uptodate. Cannot merge. |
| 17:39.08 | tornador | fatal: merging of trees 4854472c164d9ff115527e92623eef08eab9a9b1 and a92e16fc8a75aecdc2d4409d6d51d5f012129570 failed |
| 17:39.22 | phh | git reset --hard |
| 17:39.24 | phh | then do revert |
| 17:39.29 | tornador | ok, thanks |
| 17:39.38 | phh | Markinus: sorry for fooling you :D |
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| 17:40.33 | Markinus | okay . . . .. . hmmm ;-) |
| 17:40.36 | AndreMetzen | phh: hehe... i dont have the gift to understand all that kernel code... =D |
| 17:40.48 | phh | AndreMetzen: it's just a matter of time. |
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| 17:41.27 | phh | hi Battousai |
| 17:41.28 | phh | babijoee: * |
| 17:41.35 | babijoee | yo |
| 17:41.40 | babijoee | happy new year everyone |
| 17:41.43 | babijoee | :D |
| 17:42.05 | Battousai | phh: why hello there! ;) |
| 17:42.20 | phh | Battousai: because I can't do more than two letters tab, why else ? :D |
| 17:43.13 | AndreMetzen | phh: I really like to help in any way. but I think I'll have to wait for those with more knowledge to see some things working on my TP2 :) |
| 17:44.39 | ICEMANno1 | phh: is there a way to tell android to disable data with adb? |
| 17:45.08 | phh | smmmmmm |
| 17:46.25 | phh | don't know I'll say. |
| 17:46.30 | ICEMANno1 | k :D |
| 17:46.47 | babijoee | ppp.nostart=1 in startup.txt |
| 17:46.51 | babijoee | i know thath |
| 17:47.02 | phh | babijoee: nop. |
| 17:47.13 | babijoee | :( |
| 17:47.26 | ICEMANno1 | ? |
| 17:47.33 | ICEMANno1 | yes or no? works or not? |
| 17:47.34 | babijoee | nvm |
| 17:47.49 | phh | ICEMANno1: boot without your SIM, install toggledata, set it to off, reboot with sim |
| 17:48.25 | GlemSom | The forum at http://pjottrr.no-ip.org:81/redmine/projects/show/androidphh has been down for a few days... Who maintains that? |
| 17:48.34 | phh | GlemSom: pjottrr |
| 17:48.43 | phh | I haven't seen him for a while though :/ |
| 17:49.03 | phh | and it's not "for a few days", last message has been only 26hours ago :p |
| 17:49.03 | GlemSom | hmm, I think he's on XDA.... ? |
| 17:49.23 | phh | I met him here, but i don't know |
| 17:49.25 | phh | ~seen pjottrr |
| 17:49.28 | apt | pjottrr <n=phuisken@dhcp-077-249-139-228.chello.nl> was last seen on IRC in channel #htc-linux, 20d 19h 53m 56s ago, saying: 'phh; nice work btw this latest build, works very nice on blackstone, wifi problem i mentioned earluer is solved also'. |
| 17:49.38 | phh | a bit old hum. |
| 17:49.50 | GlemSom | hehe, hes last message - and he says thanks to you... nice! :P |
| 17:49.54 | tornador | phh - SOLVED!!! |
| 17:49.58 | phh | tornador: :'( |
| 17:50.04 | phh | I feared you'd say that |
| 17:50.06 | tornador | with old msm_ts.c its solved the black problem |
| 17:50.22 | phh | ok, let's read the patch for the fifth time. |
| 17:50.30 | tornador | well, but create an zimage specific to black is not the solution |
| 17:50.44 | tornador | and i dont have the skills to read the file and understand... |
| 17:51.14 | ICEMANno1 | I'll try a clean start with android, to see if the phone works then... |
| 17:53.26 | phh | tornador: ok now I can see one problem in the patch, but it doesn't seem related though |
| 17:54.59 | babijoee | phh: are you aware of the booting problems with the latest kernels? |
| 17:55.33 | phh | tornador: oh no, it's actually exactly your problem. |
| 17:55.39 | phh | babijoee: fixed in latest one normally :p |
| 17:55.53 | phh | babijoee: I tried to enable second memory bank |
| 17:55.56 | ICEMANno1 | booting problems? |
| 17:55.59 | phh | but it seems it works only on some devices |
| 17:56.10 | phh | so it's now an option parameter |
| 17:56.15 | phh | pmem.extra=1 |
| 17:56.41 | ICEMANno1 | what does it affect? |
| 17:56.46 | ICEMANno1 | the second memory bank? |
| 17:56.51 | phh | yes |
| 17:56.55 | ICEMANno1 | ahh, k |
| 17:56.58 | phh | tornador: pushed |
| 17:57.26 | phh | tornador: have you an adb/telnet/terminal? |
| 17:59.43 | vawx | phh: i think i might have found a way to acces telnet with your kernel |
| 17:59.57 | phh | vawx: like wifi ? :p |
| 18:00.11 | vawx | connection is np |
| 18:00.15 | vawx | but login |
| 18:00.19 | phh | I told you |
| 18:00.21 | phh | I think. |
| 18:00.30 | phh | busybox telnetd blabla -l /bin/sh |
| 18:00.37 | phh | just add the -l /bin/sh |
| 18:00.37 | vawx | you didn't tell me :p |
| 18:00.44 | phh | ok. |
| 18:00.48 | phh | I don't remember who I told then :p |
| 18:00.49 | vawx | but with adb i could change the root passwd |
| 18:01.24 | phh | vawx: You told me you tried without luck no ? |
| 18:01.32 | phh | or someone else tried maybe |
| 18:01.37 | vawx | that's because i couldn't do su in normal terminal |
| 18:01.38 | tornador | tornador - i have terminal in device |
| 18:01.43 | vawx | so not enough rights to change |
| 18:02.13 | phh | herpez: hum, could be enough for first tests |
| 18:02.26 | tornador | sure |
| 18:02.29 | tornador | just say |
| 18:02.37 | phh | just wait :p |
| 18:02.40 | tornador | and yes, it can be also herpez |
| 18:02.50 | phh | I don't remember how this thing works.2sec. |
| 18:03.01 | tornador | if i knew c language i would be bothering u with this, really |
| 18:03.13 | GlemSom | new kernel ready. :P |
| 18:03.29 | phh | tornador: ok try the kernel, you'll do this terminal after. |
| 18:03.33 | ICEMANno1 | no success |
| 18:04.16 | Markinus | you can not make more calls? |
| 18:04.23 | ICEMANno1 | nope |
| 18:04.27 | phh | ICEMANno1: grrrr |
| 18:04.30 | ICEMANno1 | always crashes |
| 18:04.37 | phh | babijoee: what do you think about making an android kitchen ? |
| 18:04.37 | ICEMANno1 | even with a clean version |
| 18:05.24 | phh | to add easily stuff like foreignh langugages, default homescreen and such things |
| 18:05.49 | babijoee | phh: hrmm sounds intersting |
| 18:05.57 | babijoee | interesting* |
| 18:06.34 | tornador | phh - do u want me to try the new glemsom kernel or the one i made with old file? |
| 18:06.42 | phh | tornador: glemsom. |
| 18:06.49 | tornador | ok, doing it |
| 18:09.57 | tornador | while im testing the new zimage, im having a doubt here |
| 18:10.16 | tornador | i made the modules, extracted them, cp wlan.ko to the extracted folder |
| 18:10.27 | tornador | and then i tar the folder to tar.gz |
| 18:10.39 | tornador | however it gives me a very small folder with just 400kb |
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| 18:11.19 | tornador | any clue of what im doing wrong? |
| 18:11.38 | tornador | phh - with new kernel its DONE!!! |
| 18:11.39 | tornador | :D |
| 18:12.14 | phh | tornador: ok, now terminal. |
| 18:12.36 | tornador | ok, i hope my retunr key will work on terminal... sometimes it doesnt |
| 18:12.36 | babijoee | how would we go about doing this? |
| 18:12.46 | phh | type su |
| 18:12.46 | phh | then |
| 18:12.46 | phh | cd /sys/class/htc_hw |
| 18:12.53 | phh | babijoee: bah some little bash scripts |
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| 18:13.23 | babijoee | hmmm i dont think its a good idea atm |
| 18:13.35 | babijoee | too many people will be asking too much |
| 18:13.44 | phh | ok |
| 18:13.51 | phh | a kitchen for ourselves ? :p |
| 18:13.56 | babijoee | yeah |
| 18:13.59 | phh | tornador: then echo 1 > test |
| 18:14.02 | babijoee | not for public for now i think |
| 18:14.06 | phh | and try with number from 1 to 5 |
| 18:14.11 | phh | and see what the screen does |
| 18:14.26 | phh | babijoee: first step, find where is seted the IME :p |
| 18:14.41 | babijoee | i've pretty much written my own bash script to build android |
| 18:14.53 | tornador | phh - did nothing |
| 18:14.57 | tornador | going try new term |
| 18:15.03 | babijoee | seted? |
| 18:15.05 | phh | tornador: for everything from 1 to 5 ? |
| 18:15.08 | phh | babijoee: set ? |
| 18:15.11 | phh | yes set. |
| 18:15.22 | phh | (you do love my english.) |
| 18:15.37 | babijoee | :) |
| 18:16.17 | ToAsTcfh | phh: so i found a msm_v4l2.c in the hero source |
| 18:16.19 | babijoee | isnt the ime installed via an apk in the apps folder |
| 18:16.27 | ToAsTcfh | is that what i need to build |
| 18:16.41 | phh | babijoee: yes, and if there is only one, this one will be used, but ... well no ok. it's enough. |
| 18:17.03 | phh | babijoee: anyway for next release, remove htc_ime and use latinime |
| 18:17.08 | phh | it's not as good, but at least it's usable. |
| 18:17.47 | vawx | phh: what was the command/ip again for donut telnet on your kernel? (ifconfig thing) |
| 18:18.07 | phh | it's not linked to the kernel but to the rootfs.img |
| 18:18.11 | vawx | oh |
| 18:18.16 | phh | ifconfig usb0 192.168.20.2 iirc |
| 18:18.22 | tornador | phh - no output from1 to 5 |
| 18:18.42 | tornador | ups |
| 18:18.42 | phh | tornador: nothing changes on the screen ? |
| 18:18.55 | tornador | no, but i may understood worng |
| 18:19.07 | babijoee | yeah nps |
| 18:19.14 | tornador | it shall be echo 1 > 2 , 1 > 3 and so on right? |
| 18:19.24 | phh | tornador: not at all. |
| 18:19.26 | phh | echo 1 > test |
| 18:19.28 | tornador | or 1 > test , 2 > test |
| 18:19.28 | phh | echo 2 > test |
| 18:19.29 | phh | and so on. |
| 18:19.35 | tornador | i have done it and nothing changed |
| 18:19.38 | phh | and if echo 1 > 2 did no output |
| 18:19.49 | phh | then you did it wrong |
| 18:19.54 | phh | tornador: you did the cd /sys/class/htc_hw ? |
| 18:19.58 | tornador | yes |
| 18:20.07 | phh | echo 1 > 2 does no output in the terminal ? |
| 18:20.07 | tornador | i tried just echo x > test |
| 18:20.13 | tornador | x = 1 to 5 |
| 18:20.15 | tornador | i will try it |
| 18:20.17 | tornador | never tried |
| 18:20.44 | tornador | btw better terminal is now working |
| 18:21.00 | phh | babijoee: anyway, we still have real problems with all graphical stuff... 2D is slow, 3D isn't working, video works only for really little videos ... |
| 18:21.08 | phh | I've tried to understand that, but no luck yet. |
| 18:21.15 | phh | tornador: uh ? that's strange, you changed the IME ? |
| 18:21.54 | babijoee | yeah =/ |
| 18:22.05 | tornador | echo 1 > 2 gives cannot creaye 2_ directory nonexistent |
| 18:22.25 | babijoee | do you think its driver related or something to do with kernel |
| 18:22.30 | tornador | just changed the keyboard to not htc but the one from android |
| 18:22.34 | babijoee | as i can look for other drivers |
| 18:22.41 | phh | babijoee: no idea at all :'( |
| 18:22.44 | tornador | but i dont know if its related |
| 18:22.55 | phh | tornador: keyboard is named IME :p |
| 18:22.59 | phh | I think it's then |
| 18:23.06 | phh | tornador: ok you did it correctly then |
| 18:23.09 | phh | tornador: mount -tdebugfs none /dbgfs |
| 18:23.57 | tornador | as su? |
| 18:24.04 | phh | yes |
| 18:24.44 | phh | then cd /dbgfs/vreg |
| 18:24.49 | phh | echo 0 > gp4 |
| 18:24.53 | FuZi0n | phh do you still want a decent dm? |
| 18:25.03 | phh | FuZi0n: what for again ? |
| 18:25.04 | phh | oh right |
| 18:25.08 | phh | yes |
| 18:25.15 | tornador | mounting none on dbgfs failed: device ir resource busy |
| 18:25.26 | phh | tornador: ok, just do the next command |
| 18:25.56 | ToAsTcfh | phh: this thing wont build without a gangload of errors |
| 18:26.05 | phh | ToAsTcfh: sad. |
| 18:26.17 | ToAsTcfh | sorry |
| 18:26.22 | phh | tornador: so ? |
| 18:26.34 | tornador | screen off |
| 18:26.41 | phh | tornador: backlight totally off ? |
| 18:26.44 | tornador | yes |
| 18:26.46 | tornador | and never goes on |
| 18:26.58 | tornador | but haptic feedbackis on |
| 18:27.00 | tornador | so is awake |
| 18:27.10 | tornador | this is a good thing to lcd off when sleeping |
| 18:27.20 | ToAsTcfh | i should be able to cd to the dir and make msm_v4l2 right?! |
| 18:27.35 | phh | ok, reboot to wimo, I'll do a test initramfs |
| 18:28.10 | FuZi0n | sent phh |
| 18:28.16 | phh | ToAsTcfh: no |
| 18:28.23 | ToAsTcfh | but can i use this without a whle new kernel? |
| 18:28.36 | phh | ToAsTcfh: maybe, not easily though |
| 18:28.41 | ToAsTcfh | damn |
| 18:29.00 | tornador | phh - shall i do the ramconsole dm file? |
| 18:29.05 | phh | tornador: no |
| 18:29.06 | ToAsTcfh | well send me in the direction of possibly doing it |
| 18:29.08 | phh | FuZi0n: this one is fine |
| 18:29.16 | FuZi0n | great |
| 18:29.23 | tornador | ok |
| 18:29.48 | ToAsTcfh | phh: please |
| 18:30.07 | phh | ToAsTcfh: too hard to explain |
| 18:30.25 | ToAsTcfh | ok what am i looking to do roughly |
| 18:30.33 | phh | even roughly :p |
| 18:30.40 | phh | tornador: http://husson.hd.free.fr/initrd.gz |
| 18:30.41 | phh | try that |
| 18:30.48 | ToAsTcfh | build a driver and make something to fake the system |
| 18:31.04 | babijoee | phh: are you trying to fix panel? |
| 18:31.12 | phh | babijoee: blac's backlight |
| 18:31.19 | babijoee | ok |
| 18:31.28 | phh | babijoee: just to be sure, raph hasn't the same problem ? |
| 18:31.36 | ToAsTcfh | ok is there someplace i can find info on doing what i need? |
| 18:31.43 | tornador | phh - i think some other dev have the probl |
| 18:31.49 | makkonen | does the blackstone panel get jumpy over near the right side, like the raph800's? |
| 18:31.57 | phh | tornador: which ones ? |
| 18:32.22 | FuZi0n | phh do you know what the kernel panic problem is? |
| 18:32.48 | phh | FuZi0n: it's because I try to use some memory, but "someone" dislikes that. |
| 18:32.54 | FuZi0n | hehe |
| 18:32.54 | FuZi0n | oke |
| 18:33.11 | phh | FuZi0n: anyway, the latest kernel hasn't this problem |
| 18:33.13 | phh | but less RAM. |
| 18:33.29 | FuZi0n | ok |
| 18:33.36 | phh | tornador: so ? |
| 18:34.13 | phh | tornador: FuZi0n does backlight diming works in android ? |
| 18:34.30 | phh | I mean manual one |
| 18:34.40 | FuZi0n | eehhh |
| 18:34.41 | FuZi0n | i believe it does |
| 18:36.23 | phh | please check |
| 18:36.23 | phh | because it seems really weird |
| 18:36.23 | FuZi0n | booting now |
| 18:36.23 | phh | unless you have two different backlight controls -_-' |
| 18:36.24 | FuZi0n | i need to change backlight in settings? |
| 18:36.24 | phh | yes |
| 18:36.30 | FuZi0n | ok |
| 18:36.32 | phh | well the widget is also fine but whatever |
| 18:36.55 | FuZi0n | dum dum dum there is the boot screen |
| 18:36.57 | ToAsTcfh | phh: i wonder what the chances of just changing everything to heroc instead of hero in the kernel source would alow the keenel to atleast boot?! |
| 18:37.30 | phh | ToAsTcfh: pretty high, just add the correct mtype |
| 18:37.50 | ToAsTcfh | whitch is? |
| 18:38.02 | vawx | phh: no succes yet, password still seems to be unknown. That busybox command you gave me, what is the blabla? |
| 18:38.09 | phh | don't know, you have to disassemble the spl I think |
| 18:38.15 | phh | or bootloader |
| 18:38.21 | phh | oh well wait |
| 18:38.25 | babijoee | phh: nope raph backlight is off |
| 18:38.32 | ToAsTcfh | i forgot isnt mtypes in the source? |
| 18:38.33 | tornador | phh - is it fixed??? |
| 18:38.34 | phh | babijoee: ok |
| 18:38.41 | phh | tornador: what is fixed ? |
| 18:38.52 | phh | tornador: didn't you tell me that glemsom's kernel was ok ? |
| 18:39.02 | ToAsTcfh | isnt there a file of all mtypes? |
| 18:39.10 | phh | [19:13:04] <tornador> phh - with new kernel its DONE!!! |
| 18:39.17 | phh | ToAsTcfh: all *known* mtypes :p |
| 18:39.23 | ToAsTcfh | wait that was prolly just for the winmo devices |
| 18:39.28 | phh | heroc MACH_HEROC HEROC 2092 |
| 18:39.30 | phh | it's here :p |
| 18:39.38 | phh | hero_espresso MACH_HERO_ESPRESSO HERO_ESPRESSO 2116 |
| 18:39.38 | ToAsTcfh | lol |
| 18:39.42 | phh | ToAsTcfh: see, espresso is just an hero. |
| 18:39.48 | ToAsTcfh | shit |
| 18:39.51 | ToAsTcfh | lol |
| 18:40.21 | ToAsTcfh | ok so i can just chng the mtype and change the board and such to heroc |
| 18:40.40 | FuZi0n | adjusting backlight is working fine phh |
| 18:40.44 | ToAsTcfh | ? |
| 18:40.49 | phh | FuZi0n: that's REALLY weird. |
| 18:40.57 | phh | ToAsTcfh: maybe, but I think you'll hit some panel problems |
| 18:40.59 | FuZi0n | why |
| 18:40.59 | FuZi0n | :P |
| 18:41.24 | phh | FuZi0n: bah backlight off is done the same way as trout/sapphire |
| 18:41.29 | ToAsTcfh | well that could be worked out kinda easy right? |
| 18:41.30 | phh | backlight dim is done the same way as raphael |
| 18:41.50 | phh | ToAsTcfh: i don't know these stuff |
| 18:41.56 | ToAsTcfh | lol |
| 18:42.00 | ToAsTcfh | sorry |
| 18:42.10 | phh | tornador: so with the initrd.gz, no backlight on/off at startup ? |
| 18:42.13 | ToAsTcfh | i forget ur not god somethimes |
| 18:42.18 | ToAsTcfh | lol |
| 18:42.29 | phh | ToAsTcfh: only sometimes ? |
| 18:42.30 | phh | mmm |
| 18:42.34 | ToAsTcfh | lol |
| 18:42.48 | ToAsTcfh | sorry |
| 18:42.56 | babijoee | downloading hero source :D |
| 18:43.05 | phh | babijoee: uh ? why ? |
| 18:43.06 | ToAsTcfh | bet u still never looked at the utilities i sent u?!?!?! |
| 18:43.17 | babijoee | having a look at it |
| 18:43.18 | phh | ToAsTcfh: which utilities ? |
| 18:43.20 | tornador | phh - yes, i told u it was ok the glemsom kernel, however i was in doubt if you just reverted the file form the old one or if you found the error inside the file |
| 18:43.37 | phh | ToAsTcfh: you sent me only logs |
| 18:43.39 | ToAsTcfh | the htc utilities i found |
| 18:43.51 | ToAsTcfh | its atached |
| 18:44.00 | phh | well that's all that is in my mbox. |
| 18:44.00 | ToAsTcfh | a hwhole zip |
| 18:44.18 | ToAsTcfh | if u can use them ill send |
| 18:44.43 | ToAsTcfh | they seem to be what htc use to debug and test hardware |
| 18:44.45 | phh | no, I've received no tool from you ... |
| 18:44.59 | ToAsTcfh | hold up |
| 18:44.59 | phh | tornador: glemsom's kernels are main tree. |
| 18:45.09 | phh | tornador: so, backlight |
| 18:45.11 | phh | ? |
| 18:45.39 | tornador | phh, want me to test backlight? |
| 18:45.41 | phh | ...... |
| 18:45.41 | babijoee | phh: i want to have a look at libgles and learn more stuff about kernel developing |
| 18:45.52 | tornador | since i tested it, it went off and then i didnt test anymore |
| 18:45.54 | phh | babijoee: we haven't the source of libgles /o\ |
| 18:46.01 | tornador | phh - about the same probl in RAPH -Ah, most strange behaviour was the soft keys responding randomly, especially the "back" key which some times does not respond, sometimes works like the "right" key and the suddenly works like the back key again. |
| 18:46.02 | tornador | Same for the "hang-up" key just below. Menu key works quite randomly too but more steady than back key. Did not try the other keys thoroughly. |
| 18:46.02 | tornador | I tried to find a fix for this erratic behaviour but I seem to be the only one encountering it ? |
| 18:46.02 | tornador | For testing purpose it's not a big deal, I just click randomly on some keys then back key is back |
| 18:46.04 | phh | tornador: [19:32:05] <phh> tornador: http://husson.hd.free.fr/initrd.gz |
| 18:46.05 | phh | [19:32:06] <phh> try that |
| 18:46.17 | tornador | phh - sorry, didnt read it |
| 18:46.24 | phh | I know you don't know how to read. |
| 18:46.27 | phh | it's not the first time. |
| 18:46.38 | phh | and raph problem isn't the same at all |
| 18:46.43 | phh | it's just that stupid capacitive panel |
| 18:46.45 | tornador | phh - im not here 24/7 reading... |
| 18:46.57 | tornador | i have also things to do, so its normal i miss things |
| 18:47.09 | phh | you can at least read when you're logged in.... |
| 18:47.12 | babijoee | phh: serious? how on earth did you get libgles for donut? |
| 18:47.16 | babijoee | did they release it for that? |
| 18:47.30 | phh | babijoee: I didn't get any /o\ |
| 18:47.34 | phh | babijoee: I used your builds, remember ? :p |
| 18:47.51 | tornador | i have kids around me and sometimes i need to go out and paly with them, and that stuff |
| 18:48.00 | phh | then just log out. |
| 18:48.06 | tornador | sure |
| 18:48.13 | phh | or read logs. |
| 18:48.19 | tornador | np |
| 18:48.20 | phh | so, you try that ? |
| 18:48.28 | tornador | yes, but with time |
| 18:48.36 | babijoee | phh: i mean how did you get it working? |
| 18:48.46 | phh | babijoee: I never got it working ! |
| 18:48.56 | phh | the first android build I tried had 3D working |
| 18:48.58 | tornador | as far as i undertand, this will fix backlight really of right? |
| 18:49.07 | phh | tornador: not at all yet. |
| 18:49.10 | phh | tornador: it's just a test. |
| 18:49.15 | phh | so watch your phone at boot. |
| 18:49.18 | babijoee | phh: woah |
| 18:49.33 | phh | babijoee: i'm kind of new with this stuff you know :p |
| 18:49.38 | phh | I started android only 6 months ago |
| 18:49.50 | phh | and really working on it only 3 months |
| 18:50.03 | tornador | ak |
| 18:50.11 | phh | tornador: the backlight should turn off for 5seconds |
| 18:50.14 | phh | and hopefully get back on |
| 18:50.18 | tornador | ok |
| 18:50.40 | ToAsTcfh | phh: sent |
| 18:50.55 | tornador | off ... |
| 18:50.57 | tornador | and not on |
| 18:51.41 | tornador | back to wimo |
| 18:51.47 | phh | tornador: got it |
| 18:52.12 | tornador | need to go no |
| 18:53.31 | phh | ToAsTcfh: got it* |
| 18:53.47 | phh | FuZi0n: around ? |
| 18:54.16 | FuZi0n | what phh |
| 18:54.24 | FuZi0n | hmmm abduction update yay |
| 18:54.28 | phh | lol |
| 18:54.45 | phh | FuZi0n: what you're highest score now ? :) |
| 18:54.54 | FuZi0n | 8k or something |
| 18:54.54 | phh | FuZi0n: got adb or telnet working ? |
| 18:54.55 | FuZi0n | i keep failing |
| 18:55.06 | FuZi0n | i don't know how to test that. |
| 18:55.08 | phh | evil inifinite ? |
| 18:55.15 | FuZi0n | no that's too evil |
| 18:55.18 | FuZi0n | and too infinite |
| 18:55.18 | FuZi0n | :P |
| 18:55.19 | phh | pfff |
| 18:55.32 | phh | I did 12k on evil infinite iirc |
| 18:55.40 | FuZi0n | nice |
| 18:56.00 | phh | ok, no blackstone user with working adb or telnet ? |
| 18:56.20 | FuZi0n | if you tell me how to test it.. do i need putty? |
| 18:56.38 | phh | you have a working terminal app ? |
| 18:56.42 | phh | on android |
| 18:56.52 | FuZi0n | not yet |
| 18:57.19 | FuZi0n | brr that hero keyboard doesn't look that well |
| 18:57.39 | phh | go in settings, locale stuff, enable android keyboard |
| 18:57.41 | phh | and use it. |
| 18:57.45 | phh | it's way more usable. |
| 18:57.57 | FuZi0n | yeah |
| 18:58.10 | FuZi0n | whats a good terminal app |
| 18:58.20 | phh | better terminal |
| 18:58.28 | FuZi0n | okay |
| 18:59.41 | ToAsTcfh | phh: are of use to u? |
| 19:00.04 | phh | don't know |
| 19:00.27 | ToAsTcfh | hmm well they work so maybe one day?! |
| 19:00.30 | ToAsTcfh | lol |
| 19:01.46 | FuZi0n | phh better terminal keeps crashing. |
| 19:01.55 | phh | FuZi0n: change your IME |
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| 19:04.42 | FuZi0n | phh android language? or what |
| 19:04.43 | FuZi0n | oh dinner |
| 19:04.43 | FuZi0n | brb |
| 19:04.58 | phh | android input |
| 19:06.42 | ToAsTcfh | ok so in order to use the driver what sort of mod am i looking to do? is it framework or what? or rewriting the libs in android? |
| 19:07.02 | ToAsTcfh | i mean atleast maybe i can look into it |
| 19:08.20 | FuZi0n | phh i can't get that hero keyboard disabled |
| 19:08.22 | FuZi0n | :') |
| 19:08.43 | FuZi0n | oh bingo |
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| 19:24.23 | phh | FuZi0n: I promise, it will be disabled in the next build :D |
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| 20:23.30 | phh | ToAsTcfh: do you know if your eclair hero build has working 3D acceleration ? |
| 20:25.25 | phh | and can you give a link to it ? |
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| 21:01.29 | phh | E/copybit ( 1185): copyBits failed (Invalid argument) |
| 21:01.30 | phh | D/copybit ( 1185): 0: src={w=176, h=144, f=0, rect={0,0,176,144}} |
| 21:01.30 | phh | D/copybit ( 1185): dst={w=480, h=640, f=0, rect={1,27,479,586}} |
| 21:01.30 | phh | D/copybit ( 1185): flags=00020004 |
| 21:01.32 | phh | stupid errors. |
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| 21:02.04 | greebear | updated in the comments |
| 21:02.13 | phh | mm ? |
| 21:02.14 | greebear | the buttons didnt work properly on the last build |
| 21:02.31 | greebear | after suspending and waking the device up they started to do something |
| 21:09.03 | ToAsTcfh | phh where is the touch screen driver or .so? |
| 21:09.17 | phh | there is no .so |
| 21:09.24 | phh | android just reads /dev/input/event* |
| 21:10.44 | ToAsTcfh | well i know my screen supports multi touch but im not getting it. its using syaptics |
| 21:11.07 | phh | the screen maybe, but what about the kernel driver ? |
| 21:11.21 | ToAsTcfh | yes it worked in 1.5 |
| 21:12.19 | phh | sounds weird |
| 21:12.23 | phh | but I don't know linux api for multitouch |
| 21:12.31 | ToAsTcfh | hmmm |
| 21:12.51 | ToAsTcfh | what did u say light sensor was then |
| 21:13.36 | phh | light *sensor* or light *emission* ? |
| 21:14.06 | ToAsTcfh | theauto ldemmer thingy lol |
| 21:14.22 | ToAsTcfh | auto dimmer |
| 21:14.31 | phh | afaik it's hardware |
| 21:14.32 | ToAsTcfh | im thinking sennsor |
| 21:14.38 | phh | err wait |
| 21:14.40 | phh | no I just don't know |
| 21:14.47 | ToAsTcfh | lol |
| 21:16.02 | ToAsTcfh | yeah im kinda stuck till someone can lead me the dirrection i need to add a camera driver |
| 21:16.20 | ToAsTcfh | so im trying to work on what i can |
| 21:17.05 | ToAsTcfh | <<hince>>phh |
| 21:17.05 | phh | but hero has light sensor ?!? |
| 21:17.24 | ToAsTcfh | yes a small one |
| 21:17.31 | ToAsTcfh | not proximity |
| 21:18.16 | ToAsTcfh | its on the the side of the speaker |
| 21:18.32 | ToAsTcfh | earpeice speaker |
| 21:18.45 | phh | yes same for diam |
| 21:18.59 | phh | I thaught HTC didn't put that in their android phones |
| 21:19.10 | ToAsTcfh | i wish it was prox though |
| 21:19.16 | ToAsTcfh | well they did |
| 21:19.21 | ToAsTcfh | on mine |
| 21:19.34 | ToAsTcfh | my wife has an eris it has prox |
| 21:19.46 | ToAsTcfh | a girly hero lol |
| 21:21.03 | ToAsTcfh | so phh tell me what i need to look into to get camera from v4l2. please |
| 21:21.12 | ToAsTcfh | u look bored |
| 21:21.17 | ToAsTcfh | ;D |
| 21:21.23 | phh | kind of |
| 21:21.43 | phh | a stupid bug |
| 21:21.49 | phh | GlemSom: you updated the compiler ? |
| 21:22.00 | GlemSom | phh, Yes 2009q3 |
| 21:22.03 | phh | ok |
| 21:22.12 | GlemSom | Is there a problem with that? |
| 21:22.19 | phh | don't know |
| 21:22.28 | GlemSom | What compiler do you test with? |
| 21:22.39 | phh | I tested 2008q1 and 2009q3 |
| 21:22.48 | phh | I've tried to find 2008q3 but no luck yet |
| 21:23.22 | GlemSom | Ok, since you're the maindeveloper, I would prefer using the same compiler as you.. So, please let me know if I need to change it! |
| 21:23.40 | phh | sure |
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| 21:23.58 | phh | I just want to know why this guy can get working sleep_mode=1 |
| 21:24.00 | phh | while I can't |
| 21:24.28 | GlemSom | And he Is having it working? |
| 21:24.38 | phh | yes. |
| 21:24.42 | phh | and his zImage works fine on my phone too. |
| 21:25.58 | GlemSom | phh, I guess he doesn't have the source for it anymore then? (He must have patches something?) |
| 21:26.17 | phh | he told me he tried with current tree without anypatches. |
| 21:27.00 | phh | I just don't get it |
| 21:27.52 | GlemSom | What is it we use by default... 4 ? |
| 21:27.58 | phh | no 2 |
| 21:28.08 | phh | but the system still wakes up every 30seconds |
| 21:28.11 | phh | with this, well |
| 21:28.14 | phh | s/seconds/minutes/ |
| 21:28.16 | phh | basically. |
| 21:29.14 | vawx | http://www.codesourcery.com/gnu_toolchains/arm/portal/package2549/public/arm-none-linux-gnueabi/arm-2008q3-72-arm-none-linux-gnueabi-i686-pc-linux-gnu.tar.bz2 |
| 21:29.23 | phh | thanks vawx |
| 21:29.57 | GlemSom | vawx, Nice... You must be really good friends with google? :D |
| 21:30.02 | vawx | :p |
| 21:30.21 | vawx | just looked for arm-2008q3, copied a link ^^ |
| 21:30.22 | phh | let's cross fingers now. |
| 21:30.24 | phh | while downloading |
| 21:30.32 | phh | and see doctor who meanwhile. |
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| 21:31.30 | GlemSom | phh, heh - yeah. Good series to watch once in a while! :) |
| 21:31.41 | phh | bah it's the end of time today. |
| 21:32.12 | vawx | sigh... i'm starting to hate telnet :p |
| 21:32.20 | phh | lol |
| 21:32.28 | vawx | i just can't find a way to get that login :p |
| 21:32.38 | vawx | the root user is all screwed up in android :S |
| 21:33.07 | phh | vawx: I told you how to do that. |
| 21:33.23 | vawx | sort of, except i didn't know what the blabla part was :p |
| 21:33.52 | phh | just do |
| 21:33.58 | phh | busybox telnetd -l /bin/sh |
| 21:34.00 | phh | should be enough |
| 21:35.06 | ToAsTcfh | damn i lost my chnce |
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| 21:53.08 | vawx | phh: command doesn't do anything |
| 21:53.24 | phh | killall telnetd |
| 21:53.26 | phh | and redo this command |
| 21:53.28 | phh | and try to telnet |
| 21:54.21 | GlemSom | I'm not sure you can do killall telnetd, (since it's actually busybox running). I think you'll need to kill the PID. (I could be wrong though) |
| 21:54.35 | phh | don't know |
| 21:54.44 | phh | sounds logical though |
| 21:54.55 | vawx | 1155 |
| 21:55.03 | phh | bah kill 1155 :p |
| 21:55.21 | vawx | fun, this terminal didn't have numbers :P |
| 21:55.24 | vawx | but does have su ... sigh |
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| 21:58.06 | vawx | yeeey |
| 21:58.08 | vawx | succes |
| 21:58.18 | vawx | did a killall busybox |
| 21:58.21 | vawx | then the command |
| 21:58.25 | vawx | then it worked without pass |
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| 21:58.39 | vawx | aka telnet acces on your kernel now :) |
| 21:59.18 | vawx | ok, now what? :P |
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| 22:06.52 | magnus1 | cj |
| 22:06.52 | magnus1 | phh: hey, im back! |
| 22:11.15 | magnus1 | i found out what mtype you're suppose to use on the htc touch hd/blackstone phone, it's not 1951, but rather 2030 |
| 22:11.15 | magnus1 | (if anyone else should ask) |
| 22:11.54 | GlemSom | How does network from the console work in android? (wget, ping and such cannot resolv names... and, there's no resolv.conf file?!?)... The browser in Android works fine though - and so does the market... |
| 22:11.58 | GlemSom | me is cinfused |
| 22:12.07 | phh | magnus1: argh, again |
| 22:12.20 | phh | GlemSom: no name resolution |
| 22:12.29 | GlemSom | phh, yeap |
| 22:12.38 | phh | I've never been able to fix that |
| 22:13.06 | GlemSom | I dont understand how the browser works then...? :/ |
| 22:14.24 | phh | don't know |
| 22:14.59 | phh | do getprop to know how he gets dns |
| 22:15.16 | GlemSom | yeah, I see... and I can change using setprop... |
| 22:15.28 | GlemSom | wierd... |
| 22:15.31 | phh | android :p |
| 22:15.37 | GlemSom | guess so :/ |
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| 22:16.28 | Chicago | Happy New Year #htc-linux & friends. |
| 22:17.15 | magnus1 | phh: anyhow, linux boots, but it doesn't seem to be able to mount root partition.. it ends up in a state waiting for the SD card. and i see mmc prints about timeouts. im thinking maybe the mmc bits are configured for a different machine (ie other pinmux) or something |
| 22:17.45 | magnus1 | the eclair stuff you gave me earlier, should they work for all htc phones, granted a correct mtype? or do i need different images for different phones? |
| 22:17.53 | phh | magnus1: should work |
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| 22:18.13 | phh | magnus1: add msmsdcc_1bit msmsdcc_nopwrsave msmsdcc_fmax=14000000 |
| 22:18.14 | phh | to the cmdline |
| 22:18.31 | magnus1 | thats in the startup.txt file, right? |
| 22:18.35 | phh | yes |
| 22:20.50 | magnus1 | also, is there a faster way to test stuff? right now my boot process is to boot windows mobile, wait for all bloat to load, open file manager, start haret, wait until linux encounters problem, then rip out the battery to reset the device |
| 22:21.37 | phh | no |
| 22:23.38 | FuZi0n | do you have manila enabled magnus1? |
| 22:24.40 | magnus1 | FuZi0n: im not familiar with manila, what is it? |
| 22:24.54 | FuZi0n | touchflo |
| 22:25.09 | magnus1 | yeah, i think thats the bloat that loads at boot right? |
| 22:25.17 | magnus1 | i just got this phone today, i dont know much about it |
| 22:25.28 | magnus1 | i just want to throw away windows mobile |
| 22:26.06 | vawx | if you only got it today, why didn't you just buy an android phone in the first place? :S |
| 22:26.34 | FuZi0n | indeed vawx |
| 22:26.56 | FuZi0n | but magnus1, go to settings, click on today, uncheck touchflo |
| 22:27.06 | FuZi0n | cause you have to wait till winmob is entirely loaded and stuff |
| 22:27.11 | FuZi0n | so that helps a lot |
| 22:29.21 | magnus1 | vawx: its not new :) i got it for free from a friend who got so fed up with the slow UI, he was gonna throw it away |
| 22:29.27 | magnus1 | so i told him i could take better care of it |
| 22:29.40 | magnus1 | i mean, the htc touch hd is not _that_ bad hw, is ti? |
| 22:29.41 | vawx | phh: somehow display powermanagement initiated on it's own just now, it wasn't turned off in wimo so it didn't work |
| 22:30.53 | magnus1 | phh: still getting mmc1: Command timeout a few times with those added command line parameters.. and then it enters the "waiting for SD card" mode |
| 22:31.15 | phh | magnus1: you extracted all files ? |
| 22:31.23 | FuZi0n | magnus1 hd can perform much better than it does i believe |
| 22:33.08 | GlemSom | phh, I know it's a minor issue - but regarding the name resolution... This might be related -> http://android.modaco.com/content/htc-hero-hero-modaco-com/295035/busybox-network-functions-not-working/#entry1099546 |
| 22:33.47 | magnus1 | phh: yupp, pretty sure.. i think the problem here is that the sd card doesnt mount |
| 22:33.56 | magnus1 | so the kernel just sits there and waits for a rootfs |
| 22:33.58 | phh | GlemSom: ok |
| 22:34.07 | phh | this is related |
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| 22:48.46 | [1]Captnoord | happy new year |
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| 22:51.52 | ToAsTcfh | phh: still got no time to explain whats needed to use the v4l2 driver without a kernel? |
| 22:52.26 | phh | nop |
| 22:52.42 | ToAsTcfh | u refuse i take it |
| 22:55.55 | magnus1 | ToAsTcfh: v4l2 without the kernel? :) sounds weird. |
| 22:56.17 | phh | magnus1: he hasn't kernel's source code :p |
| 22:56.59 | magnus1 | you mean he wants to use v4l2 in a non-linux kernel? |
| 22:57.10 | magnus1 | ie mimick the api? |
| 22:58.27 | ToAsTcfh | i wanna use the driver to get the camera working on my heroc in 2.1 |
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| 22:59.01 | phh | why don't you just wait for HTC mm? |
| 22:59.18 | ToAsTcfh | for some reason they changed the driver for the 2.+ builds |
| 22:59.48 | ToAsTcfh | phh: u know ive been asked that hundred times |
| 22:59.59 | magnus1 | can't you revert back just the v4l2 driver then |
| 23:00.06 | magnus1 | in the new 2.1 kernel |
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| 23:00.27 | ToAsTcfh | no i have a .27 kernael |
| 23:00.32 | ToAsTcfh | cdma hero |
| 23:00.52 | magnus1 | what kernel ver is used by 2.1? |
| 23:01.19 | ToAsTcfh | phh: they said sensors ril and all the rest was inpossible but now everything but camera works |
| 23:01.25 | ToAsTcfh | .29 |
| 23:01.31 | phh | ToAsTcfh: "they" ? |
| 23:01.49 | magnus1 | so why dont you migrate to .29 aswell? |
| 23:01.54 | ToAsTcfh | everyone who ive asked except u and tmzt lol |
| 23:01.55 | phh | magnus1: no kernel source |
| 23:02.01 | phh | ToAsTcfh: ah |
| 23:02.15 | [1]Captnoord | and porting is very hard |
| 23:02.25 | magnus1 | phh: i thought all android versions was open |
| 23:02.27 | [1]Captnoord | we better port to .31 |
| 23:02.35 | phh | magnus1: all released one yup. |
| 23:02.47 | phh | android 2.1 hasn't been released. |
| 23:02.59 | magnus1 | oh, right. ok, i see the problem |
| 23:03.02 | ToAsTcfh | 2.0 either |
| 23:03.09 | ToAsTcfh | it wont work in both |
| 23:03.21 | magnus1 | who develops the 'official' android kernel then? google? |
| 23:03.42 | magnus1 | and why dont they expose their scm? |
| 23:03.45 | phh | I don't think there is an official android kerne |
| 23:03.47 | phh | l |
| 23:03.52 | phh | magnus1: they don't have to. |
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| 23:04.10 | ToAsTcfh | idk but im stuck here. |
| 23:04.13 | magnus1 | so if there is not offical team, who is "they"? |
| 23:04.25 | ToAsTcfh | htc |
| 23:04.28 | phh | who said there is no official team ? :p |
| 23:04.46 | magnus1 | im just making things up here, to make it more interesting :) |
| 23:05.27 | magnus1 | anyway, porting the .27 drivers to .31 should be fairly easy, right? |
| 23:05.32 | ToAsTcfh | any ideas or is the v4l2 not gonna work without the kernel rebuilt? |
| 23:05.43 | ToAsTcfh | not easy |
| 23:05.50 | dekar | the kernel is gpl - so there should be a source for every kernel out there - dunno about android, afaik it's apache license or something so no need to release the source for it. So why are there any driver problems? |
| 23:05.55 | magnus1 | i do a lot of kernel porting at work, we pull in all stable releases as soon as possible to minimize fork with mainline |
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| 23:06.07 | ICEMANno1 | hi guys |
| 23:06.19 | ICEMANno1 | any updates on calling? |
| 23:07.16 | magnus1 | ToAsTcfh: if you try to insmod a v4l2 module built for .29 with an older .27 kernel, linux will complain.. even if you change the module magic, so it actually inserts, chances are big it will just ooops on your ass |
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| 23:07.46 | ToAsTcfh | damn |
| 23:07.54 | ToAsTcfh | so no other options |
| 23:08.23 | magnus1 | ToAsTcfh: what you can do it to get yourself a vanilla .27 kernel, build your device driver in that tree and then insert that module |
| 23:08.37 | magnus1 | it should work if your device driver is isolated from the rest of the tree |
| 23:09.03 | magnus1 | but you probably need to do some backporting |
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| 23:09.32 | ToAsTcfh | damn |
| 23:09.33 | magnus1 | if youve done any kernel hacking, it should be possible to pull it off |
| 23:09.49 | ToAsTcfh | some but not much |
| 23:11.12 | phh | babijoee: for next release, I/you'll have to remove the htcraphaelmmc stuff in rootfs/init, I'm going to manage wifi better |
| 23:11.12 | magnus1 | what happens if you try to insmod it just as it is? |
| 23:12.50 | ToAsTcfh | damn i cant remember the name of the module hold up |
| 23:14.38 | Chicago | How far along is support for the Titan? When I first gave it a shot and compiled a kernel, I had to go out and find special keyboard support. (This was in October 2008). |
| 23:15.18 | Chicago | I happen to have two Titans sitting here and am wondering if making Gentoo do distcc across them is now possible. |
| 23:17.23 | ToAsTcfh | adb shell insmod /dev/msm_camera/control0 |
| 23:17.23 | ToAsTcfh | insmod: can't open '/dev/msm_camera/control0' |
| 23:17.38 | ToAsTcfh | magnus1:^^^^^ |
| 23:18.02 | magnus1 | hum, well, thas not your module |
| 23:18.03 | magnus1 | thats a device |
| 23:18.22 | magnus1 | or a device node |
| 23:18.39 | ToAsTcfh | i dont klnow what the name is |
| 23:18.45 | ToAsTcfh | shit |
| 23:20.44 | ToAsTcfh | pm |
| 23:20.46 | ToAsTcfh | thats what happens when i open camera |
| 23:21.03 | ToAsTcfh | liboemcamera is something new in 2.0 |
| 23:21.18 | ToAsTcfh | befor it was libqcamera |
| 23:21.45 | magnus1 | so you are trying to run 2.1, but the camera does not work? |
| 23:22.02 | ToAsTcfh | yes |
| 23:24.44 | magnus1 | but your camera works in some older version? |
| 23:24.44 | magnus1 | and you want to move the old camera module into the new system? |
| 23:24.44 | magnus1 | i thought you wanted to move the module from a NEWER kernel to a slightly older? |
| 23:27.45 | dekar | Chicago, what are titans? a phone by htc? can't you have distcc run on a normal pc and crosscompile instead? |
| 23:28.34 | Chicago | dekar, the Titan is an HTC P Series (PocketPC Phones) |
| 23:31.09 | NetRipper | a titan is a ship in Eve Online |
| 23:31.22 | dekar | yeah -.- |
| 23:31.26 | NetRipper | ;p sorry |
| 23:31.29 | dekar | XD |
| 23:31.43 | NetRipper | guess my new addiction |
| 23:33.23 | dekar | Chicago, so can't you run distcc on a machine with some more ghz? I can imagine a full gentoo compilation taking several years on a phone XD |
| 23:34.07 | Chicago | dekar, Yes. When I looked at this in 2008, I did the compile on a 650MHz Athlon K7 with 'emerge crossdev'... |
| 23:34.49 | dekar | hmm 650mhz - how long did it take? :P |
| 23:34.58 | Chicago | 25 minutes for the kernel |
| 23:35.22 | Chicago | maybe an hour... but I had to compile it lots of times to get it right... (these days, I'm on greener pastures for CPU spped) |
| 23:36.11 | dekar | wow, the kernel takes about that time on my core2 - I would have thought it'd take much longer |
| 23:37.13 | Chicago | dekar, If I am beginning to remember the whole story... by the second or third time, I involved a P4 and a laptop with a core2 to help. |
| 23:37.35 | Chicago | But the crossdev distcc wouldn't be fun with a new compiler... |
| 23:38.04 | Chicago | Because with -march=native, I'd want to see about at least compiling mplayer natively on the phone |
| 23:38.25 | dekar | I don't think compiling CAN be fun - I'm on debian and compile only when I have to ;) |
| 23:39.21 | Chicago | dekar, Then in your model, I had to have fun... because I wanted to compile Gentoo. |
| 23:40.19 | dekar | In my model compiling can't be fun :P |
| 23:41.21 | Chicago | In my model, compiling can't be fun (in Debian)... although I haven't had to do it too much in there... |
| 23:43.16 | dekar | lol why would compiling be different on debian? cause you have no ebuild and can't remember how to do it without? :D |
| 23:45.07 | Chicago | dekar, Debian is a binary based distribution. The ebuild feature and portage are what makes Gentoo a meta-distribution. I find it kind to turn crap chips of days past into masterpieces by letting them cycle compiling themselves new all the time... |
| 23:45.16 | Chicago | But back to the Titan! |
| 23:45.39 | phh | Chicago: which soc is it based on ? |
| 23:46.07 | Chicago | phh, I think MPM7500 is the right answer; but I've yet to dig up my PDFs from the last time I pulled them (just getting into it). Happy New Year! |
| 23:46.16 | phh | MPM ? |
| 23:46.31 | phh | MSM. |
| 23:46.35 | Chicago | Thanks, sorry |
| 23:46.41 | phh | cdma stuff. bah. |
| 23:47.09 | Chicago | Yes, it definitely CDMA. |
| 23:47.18 | phh | 64MB RAM ? ouch |
| 23:48.07 | Chicago | phh, yes only 65MB RAM. I am in possession of a 2GB SD card a 4GB and an 8GB SDHC, (which I used previously)... My kernel kinda never got as far as getting a network connection after mounting root. |
| 23:48.23 | Chicago | ... I thought about IP over IR for fun at the time, but didn't get it working. |
| 23:49.35 | phh | usbnet might work |
| 23:51.13 | phh | but I know no linux distribution which will be able to run with 64MB :/ |
| 23:51.16 | phh | I mean no usable one. |
| 23:51.28 | dekar | which excludes gentoo? :P |
| 23:51.38 | Chicago | who knows |
| 23:51.51 | ali1234 | gentoo can't run a proper desktop in 64mb any more than any other distro can |
| 23:53.11 | Chicago | I would just like to run a compiler on there for a few apps of choice... like freeswitch, mplayer, vlc and ffmpeg |
| 23:53.46 | ali1234 | Chicago: gentoo has a very nice cross compiling system built in, why not use it? |
| 23:54.04 | Chicago | ali1234, I do :) (emerge crossdev) right? |
| 23:54.14 | ali1234 | so i'm told, yeah |
| 23:55.04 | Chicago | Gentoo's cross compiling system built the kernel I tried in 2008. |
| 23:55.24 | ali1234 | you barely even need it for the kernel |
| 23:55.35 | ali1234 | that's one thing that is very easy to cross compile |
| 23:55.59 | Chicago | I still need to determine the proper radio rom to put in... |
| 23:56.06 | ali1234 | it's when you start building a userspace and need configure scripts to work properly, that you need some kind of build system |