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00:23.11pershoothey all
00:24.50pershootim trying to build ti wlan (sta_dk_4_0_4_32) against kernel 2.6.32, but unfornuately looks like the API changed.  getting open,stop,hard_start_xmit and get stats reporting 'no member named'. anyone know of a way to patch the neded files in pform/linux/src ?
01:13.49BoydellWell, I got the CAPS led right now...
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01:16.54MrPippyphh: what do you think about changing the usb product id to 0c01, combined with echo 2 > usb_function_switch i think that'll make adb work on windows without having to edit the .inf
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01:31.02tmztpershoot: yep, change it to netdev_ops
01:31.10tmztadd those functions
01:31.38tmztuse ifdef's on the linux version, there's a recent commit on android experimental.git that should show you how
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01:32.15ToAsTcfhtmzt: heres one that tickle u pink. wifi in the htc heroc kernel doesnt work on the device!!!!
01:32.24pershootwould you by any chance have a link handy?
01:32.29pershootto the commit..
01:32.37ToAsTcfhme?
01:32.49ToAsTcfhno
01:32.52pershootthat was a question to tmzt
01:32.52ToAsTcfhsorry
01:33.01ToAsTcfhi  seen that after sorry
01:33.27ToAsTcfhi was answering my own question lol
01:39.00tmztToAsTcfh: where's the kernel source?
01:39.28tmztpershoot: android.git.kernel.org experimental 2.6.32
01:39.42tmztit's recent about bcm compatibility
01:39.49pershootyup i just pulled that today.
01:40.56pershooti tried my hand at changing the code, but dont know c all too well, so have been stuck. ill take another stab at it..
01:44.56ToAsTcfhtmzt: http://github.com/jhansche/htc-2.6.27-heroc/tree/ also on htcs dev site
01:45.19tmztToAsTcfh: what's the issue?
01:45.49ToAsTcfhtmzt:no wifi. it fails
01:46.08ToAsTcfhtried multible wlan.kos
01:46.26ToAsTcfhnone of which have worked
01:46.51tmzttried building one against the new kernel?
01:47.17ToAsTcfhno
01:47.31tmztthen don't expect it to work
01:47.32ToAsTcfhi guess i could do that
01:47.47ToAsTcfhits htcs source for our kernel
01:47.54ToAsTcfhit should
01:48.00ToAsTcfhidk though
01:49.02ToAsTcfhmaejrep also found other changes htc had made to the source before they released it.
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01:49.57tmztyou need to use a new boot.img also
01:50.13ToAsTcfhw3hy
01:50.17tmztyou should be able to reverse those changes, unfortunately HTC doesn't use git
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01:50.57ToAsTcfhwe are adding the kernel to the boot image before flashing it
01:51.28ToAsTcfheh but the changes are actually for the better
01:52.05ToAsTcfhits just funny htc didnt release the source for the kernel they shipped on the device
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02:46.49MrPippyhmm weird haret suddenly doesn't work, the kernel complains that the initrd is in an area overlapped by main memory and then panics because it can't find init
02:48.24Boydellthat is weird
03:00.04tmztwhat device?
03:00.13tmzthow big is zImage/initrd?
03:00.20tmztis ramaddr set?
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03:18.05babijoeehi guys
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05:57.15MrPippyhmm it seems like the "INITRD overlaps in-use memory region" error was caused by enabling some more debugging options--KALLSYMS_ALL, DEBUG_SPINLOCK, DEBUG_LOCK_ALLOC, LOCKDEP, STACKTRACE, DEBUG_WRITECOUNT, DEBUG_LIST
06:01.55tmztyeah, so the zImage was huge
06:02.32MrPippyharetlog shows it was putting everything in the 2nd bank though, which i'm not using
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06:06.21MrPippymy ram config (in fixup) is 1 bank starting at 0x10000000, 107MB big
06:06.30MrPippyand from haret log: Allocated 844 pages (tags=67300000/22d94000 kernel=67301000/22d93000 initrd=67478000/22c1c000 index=67648000/22a4c000)
06:07.23tmztmaybe we should make the initrd alloc dynamic
06:07.42tmztit never had to be fixed with ATAG_INITRD anyway
06:10.31MrPippyandroid is still not that stable, and the panics seem like memory corruption--different kernel functions every time, but always "unable to handle kernel paging request" or something similar
06:11.19MrPippyi didn't think there were any restrictions on where the initrd, kernel, tags could be in ram, but i also don't know what to make of "INITRD overlaps in-use memory" when it clearly doesn't
06:15.13tmztthis has nothing to do with 'android'
06:15.23tmztyour zImage is too big for haret
06:15.36tmztthe initrd is at a fixed offset
06:16.07tmztyeah, the panics work like that, but that's msm linux more than android
06:16.55MrPippymy zImage is getting close to 1500 bytes
06:19.19MrPippyerr kbytes
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06:31.57MrPippyso after the kernel uncompresses it overwrites part of the initrd?
06:36.06tmztmaybe
06:36.16tmztbut the error is from haret not linux
06:36.18tmztum, no
06:36.28tmztthe uncompress happens somewhere else
06:40.29MrPippyok
06:41.27MrPippygot another panic, this time a Bad pte followed by a kernel null ptr deref
06:41.36MrPippydo you know what is causing these?
06:42.15tmztyou're debugging?
06:43.09MrPippywhat do you mean?
06:49.07tmztthose options are likely broken on the arm11 variant in the msm
06:49.15tmztsince Google doesn't use them
06:49.23tmztthey are also pretty new
06:49.58MrPippyall those debug options?
06:50.11tmztyeah
06:50.20tmztwhat do you need them for?
06:50.45MrPippynothing really, just thought it might uncover something
06:51.13tmztlike?
06:52.18MrPippywhy the kernel panics so often
06:57.59tmztthose options are only for detailed debugging of certain problems
06:58.06tmztlike a specific lock
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06:59.51MrPippyyeah
07:00.33MrPippyi'm surprised how many debug options are turned on in some of the vendor defconfigs (7501a from heroc, mahimahi)
07:00.42MrPippymust not be the configs they actually ship kernels from
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08:53.39MrPippyfreaking weird, the heroc source has a small patch in drivers/char/tty_io.c *specifically* for the 7501a, and i haven't seen the patch in any other trees
08:58.23MrPippysomething about the 7501a means that flushing and flipping to the ldisc needs its own workqueue, instead of using the default one
09:08.23maejrepyup
09:10.24maejrepi just wish i had a way of debugging my kernel :/  dies at some point before ram_console, so i have no idea what's going on
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09:21.13MrPippythe kernel is from the heroc source?
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14:43.24babijoeehi guys
14:43.46babijoeeyozgatg is making a dual boot for android and winmo
14:44.15babijoeehes quite experienced with winmo so i think he should be of great assistance
14:44.29babijoeei've asked him to lend you a hand phh if you still need it
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14:53.26babijoeehi yozgatg
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15:53.24|Jason8|babijoee: A dual-boot?  With a menu to pick..?
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15:57.37chamonixhey guys
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16:08.11Boydellnvm, take that back
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16:11.51chamonixplouf plouf leobaillard
16:11.56leobaillard:p
16:12.16leobaillardhow are you ?
16:12.27chamonixgood ty :) hows u?
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16:13.14Boydellmorning all
16:13.34chamonixgood afternoon Boydell
16:13.59Boydellah, morning here..
16:14.15chamonixwell, it's relative :)
16:14.29Boydellvery :) how goes things?
16:14.49chamonixcan't complain :) on ur side?
16:15.34chamonixmy biggest question currently is: what will I learn today?
16:15.59leobaillardI'm fine thx...drowning myself into php, but fine :)
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16:16.29chamonixcool, php is great when it comes to crosssite scripting :-D
16:16.48BoydellI'm about in the same boat, started tracking down the CAPS and LED issue :) now there are some times I need to learn/figure out before they are finished
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16:26.07Boydelldoes anyone what/where handles the FN and SHIFT key modifiers? So like, what turns FN lock on after two presses and stuff.?
16:28.15NetRipperdcordes, Kevin2, mailing list on linuxtogo doesn't seem to work? ;x
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17:12.14chamonixphh: chamonix: http://husson.hd.free.fr/Image + ... <--- ty, starting a new test as soon as my battery is full
17:13.27chamonixphh: <chamonix> phh: did u patch dropbear for fake-getpwnam? <---- ah. no <-- afaik it's required because of the lack of support for /etc/passwd in Android (see http://wiki.androidx86.org/index.php?title=Installing_Dropbear for details and patch)
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18:02.30phh[21:58:17] <ToAsTcfh> oh just wondering. seen something about it being discontenued on glemstorms site. <--- the release with squashfs patch is discontinued, because it is mainline
18:03.02phh[23:25:13] <Boydell> well HTC releases their souce code for some android phones, but is there code for one with a physical qwert keyboard? <---- afaik not with fn/caps lock keys
18:03.28Boydellphh: thanks
18:04.07phh[01:32:32] <pershoot> im trying to build ti wlan (sta_dk_4_0_4_32) against kernel 2.6.32, but unfornuately looks like the API changed.  getting open,stop,hard_start_xmit and get stats reporting 'no member named'. anyone know of a way to patch the neded files in pform/linux/src ?
18:04.07phh[02:21:30] <Boydell> Well, I got the CAPS led right now... <------- use wl1251
18:04.14phhwl12xx for the driver name
18:04.45Boydellwhat do you mean?
18:05.14phh[03:54:32] <MrPippy> hmm weird haret suddenly doesn't work, the kernel complains that the initrd is in an area overlapped by main memory and then panics because it can't find init <------ same here :p use Image instead of zImage, or get the Image to less than 3MB to use the zImage
18:07.04phh[10:18:11] <maejrep> i just wish i had a way of debugging my kernel :/  dies at some point before ram_console, so i have no idea what's going on <----- change from device_initcall to fs_initcall (or even something before, search in includes to now the order) the ramconsole loading
18:08.04phhBoydell: hum sorry, wrong past
18:08.09phhthe answer was for pershoot
18:08.29Boydellha ok thanks. I was like :\
18:09.33|Jason8|phh = awesome
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18:47.16Boydellphh: do you know what handles the FN and SHIFT key modifiers? Bassically, what allows it work and stuff?
18:47.22phhno
18:47.29Boydellbah
18:47.44phhI think it's the kernel that sends which mod keys are pressed, and then android interpret it
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18:48.31BoydellWell, Im just trying to find how it knows like, when FN is pressed once, to turn off after, but if pressed twice, to FN lock it...
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19:05.52chamonixphh: a little OT question but I have a hard time trying to build dropbear.... I assume I'm making something wrong at "configure" by not knowing what are the right values of --target and/or --host as configure tells me "cross compiling... no". What are the correct values / am I completely lost?
19:06.28phhchamonix: if your cross builder name is arm-blabal-gcc, then use configure --target=arm-blabal
19:10.05maejrepphh: I tried coreinit:p and still nothing
19:10.09maejrepbut maybe core was too soon
19:10.29phhmaejrep: coreinit ?
19:10.38phhah
19:11.04phhmaejrep: hum it just needs pmem to be declared, which is done in board init function afaik
19:11.35chamonixphh: I must do something really wrong then because ./configure --target=arm-none-linux-gnueabi- && make ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=arm-none-linux-gnueabi- produces my a binary executable on my desktop
19:12.34phhwell.. I don't know how make is supposed to be done :p
19:12.41phhI do make CC=arm-none-linux-gnueabi-gcc
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19:15.01chamonixwell ty for the enlightement, I have new errors now so it seems to do things differently :)
19:20.15phhdon't forget to do make clean
19:31.33mickeylif you have to do a lot of compiling foreign packages, you might want to consider one of the build systems
19:31.48mickeylsuch as OpenWRT, OE, T2, etc.
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19:33.36phhmaybe try the one codeaurora use
19:33.41phhptxdist i think
19:35.50Boydellcan anyone also explain why the keyboard behaves differently on the raph at kernal level than android level (bring up the kernal messages screen)...
19:36.20phhthe answer is in your question :p
19:36.52phhchamonix: hum, could you write an android service to manage leds ?
19:37.04BoydellI mean, to a certain extent i understand it, they are different, but I would think the keyboard so behave the same..
19:37.26Boydell*should behave
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19:56.31phhchamonix: I'm answering most of bugs ! :p
19:57.44phhand I realize the external_storage stuff is still not there -_-'
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20:01.55chamonixparmaster: I've no idea how to access leds from java but can have a look.... what would that service do/take care of?
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20:02.40phhchamonix: a simple write to a /dbgfs file
20:02.46phhI have to code it in kernel though, but that's easy
20:03.06phhchamonix: and taking in charge stuff like SMS receiving, calls, charger state
20:04.40chamonixok... well a service listening to events like cell change, charger state or SMS incoming that's quite straight forward... and I only need to figure out how to "su" a "echo sumthing > somewhere" to write to dbgfs so that is almost finished too
20:05.01phhyup
20:05.02chamonixI mean the echo is working already, only su is missing
20:05.11phhI can set perms from the kernel
20:05.18phhbut I don't really like that.
20:05.35phhI have to figure out a linuxish API for led events though
20:05.50phhI guess it will be dbgfs for some time.
20:06.39chamonixno need to, I know su is working, it just a matter of placing the system call.... I tried su -c sh -c command and sh -c su -c command but both return errorlevels fot whatever reason I don't get yet
20:07.22phhsu -c "echo blabla > blabla" doesn't work ?
20:07.51chamonixI blieve it's related to the context where sh runs not being initialized properly.... maybe I have to pass path to su
20:08.33chamonixawwww, zlib is missing
20:09.24stinebdchamonix: you probably want ./configure --host=arm-none-linux-gnueabi (in case you're still wondering)
20:10.13chamonixstinebd: I had that part already ty.... now I'm dealing with the lib/static stuff preventing make from going thru...
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20:12.50chamonixphh: are there values to be written once for e.g. blinking a led or must it be managed by a timer of some kinde from the client/service?
20:13.20phhchamonix: the list of available led effects is available in http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=RaphaelMicroP
20:13.20phhtimer
20:13.53mickeylno led triggers on Android kernel?
20:14.07mickeylcompile them in, they're cheap
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20:14.29phhmickeyl: I can't see how to use led triggers with the "led effects" stuff :/
20:15.02mickeylwell, for a "blinking led" (which is what chamonix asked for), the timer trigger is fine
20:15.18mickeylor what do you mean with "led effects"?
20:15.26mickeyl(ah, some Android API?)
20:15.28phhmickeyl: you have a raph no ?
20:15.34mickeylcorrect
20:15.43phhbah when you plug in your phone
20:15.50phhthe central leds "turn around"
20:16.12phhhum no breath effect
20:16.17mickeylrighto
20:16.18phhyou have flashing leds when receiving a call
20:16.29phhand another one when receiving a message
20:16.45mickeylcool. i never used it on WinMobile, so that's new to me :)
20:17.24phhand the problem is that I can't see how to implement that linuxish
20:17.40mickeylsounds like a custom trigger
20:17.56mickeylthat maps some description to what the asic can do
20:18.03mickeylbtw., i still have the discharging problem, any idea how to circumvent that?
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20:18.23chamonixfind what is preventing the sleep
20:18.27chamonix:)
20:18.37mickeylhmm
20:18.45mickeylthat doesn't help
20:18.50mickeylit stops charging
20:18.56mickeyland drains down
20:19.01mickeyleven with usb plugged in
20:19.02chamonixhmmmm
20:19.19chamonixdoes dmesg tell it's unplugged?
20:19.22mickeylno
20:20.06chamonixdo the battery have an embedded controller?
20:20.10chamonixdoes*
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20:20.22phhmickeyl: still the same "fix" :p
20:20.33phhecho 2 > /dbgfs/htc_battery/charger_state
20:20.47mickeylawesome
20:20.51mickeylmay i ask why that's necessary?
20:20.56lucxleds effect are trigered by gpio?
20:20.58mickeyllike... couldn't the kernel do that for me?
20:21.02phhlucx: I2C
20:21.09phhmickeyl: not all users want that
20:21.13mickeylhmm
20:21.14phhsome want 1 (which is slow charge)
20:21.26phhbut I can set that to 2, ok.
20:21.36mickeyli don't mind slow or fast
20:21.37phhby default i mean
20:21.44phhmickeyl: slow might be too slow :p
20:21.46mickeylbut it needs to provide enough mA so that it does never discharge
20:21.51mickeylright
20:21.54mickeylthat'd be too slow then :D
20:22.16lucxand you know how to triger evry effect?
20:22.39lucxand you know how to triger all effect?
20:22.45phhlucx: yup
20:22.56phhwe just have no clean API for it
20:23.35mickeylplease consider the trigger way
20:23.43mickeylit fits naturally IMO
20:23.43GNUtoohi leviathan
20:23.53mickeyland is done for LEDs that have capabilities that exceed normal on/off
20:23.59mickeyland it would make mainline
20:24.08mickeyl(not that this would be a motivation for you ;)
20:24.10lucxyou have documetation for it?
20:24.21phhmickeyl: do you know any example of using this feature ?
20:24.26mickeylyeah
20:24.28mickeylall in kernel
20:24.31mickeyltimer
20:24.33mickeylcharging
20:24.39mickeyloffline patch for netdev
20:24.42mickeylvery cool also
20:24.52mickeylhave your led autoblink on incoming network packet
20:25.02mickeyldocs also in the kernel
20:26.54phhthat would make fun debugging sleep.
20:27.03mickeylhehe
20:28.23phhmickeyl: default setting to fast charge pushed.
20:28.36mickeylawesome, thanks a lto!
20:28.40mickeyllot
20:29.11mickeylok, now if i get suspend/resume to work, i'm almost ready to go for a UI
20:30.11chamonix\o/ finally I message that I understand :  configure: error: *** zlib missing :)
20:30.17mickeylhehe
20:34.48chamonix\o/ bash: ./dropbear: cannot execute binary file
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20:35.14stinebdheh
20:35.23dcordeshello
20:35.35chamonixnow I just need to patch that passwd thing
20:35.45chamonixhey dcordes
20:39.21dcordeschamonix, messing aorund with OE imageS?
20:39.39dcordesmickeyl, how's it going? you coming to fosdem?
20:40.18mickeylok so far, yes, i'll probaby be there. you too?
20:40.27mickeylyou're not frequently here anymore. busy?
20:41.09dcordesmickeyl, yes cr2 and me are planning to team up
20:41.36dcordesyes university keeping me busy
20:41.54mickeyloh, cool, lets have a chat then
20:42.14dcordesyea. are you helping with OE booth?
20:42.42mickeyli think this year i want to see some presentations
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20:42.50mickeyldid my share of managing the OE booth in previous years
20:43.18mickeyllet share mobile numbers so we can get in contact then
20:45.57GNUtoobtw I'll be at fosdem too
20:47.24mickeylwah
20:47.34mickeylso many HTC hackerz
20:47.36mickeylfun
20:47.41mickeyllooking forward
20:50.40dcordesmickeyl, unfortunately we're not there for the beer event :(
20:51.01mickeylthat's not a big loss
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20:51.07mickeylthe beer event is overcrowded and incredibly loud
20:51.13dcordeslol ok :D
20:51.14mickeylthere's _no_ way to actually talk to someone
20:51.20GNUtoolol
20:51.27mickeyli prefer to drink beer in one of the pubs around the grand place
20:51.31mickeylmore quiet
20:51.32GNUtooI never went to friday's beer event
20:51.35mickeylso we can actually get something done
20:51.43GNUtoobut I'll be there friday
20:52.12dcordesGNUtoo, you coming from italy or france?
20:52.17GNUtooitaly
20:53.01GNUtoolast fosdem I met a debian dev in the plane
20:54.12dcordesgood for you last time I went by plane somewhere I was stuck 5h at the ramp w/o any geeks to talk :D
20:54.27GNUtoolol
20:54.28GNUtoook
20:54.36dcordesweather related
20:58.00GNUtoook
20:58.22dcordesok.
21:02.09Boydellharsh, guy is tryin to have a little chit chat and he gets shot down :(
21:13.17dcordesBoydell, http://git.linuxtogo.org/?p=groups/mobile-linux/kernel.git;a=blob;f=drivers/input/keyboard/microp-keypad.c;h=aa9aa55043520000ab4603f2d5561b8de35a26b8;hb=refs/heads/htc-msm-2.6.27 this is the driver for msm7kA i2c keypad. might provide some hint ond your led problem
21:13.37Boydellsweet, thanks dcordes
21:14.26Boydellha, thats the same one im using now
21:14.29dcordeswhat device are you working on?
21:14.38BoydellRAPH800
21:15.04dcordesthis is because the gitorious repos are based on the linuxtogo repos
21:15.12dcordesk
21:15.39BoydellBut by the looks of it, the LED function turns the LEDs on and off by keypress, and I dont really want that..
21:15.57dcordeswhat else would you want?
21:16.06BoydellI want it to look at the kernal, and see it the shift/caps modifier it on or the FN modifier is on
21:16.11Boydell*is
21:16.15Boydellif you get that?
21:16.46dcordessounds like detour to me
21:17.17BoydellI think thats the only logical way of doing things, espeically with the FN LED, since FN it turns off after you press the desired key anyways
21:18.49BoydellI think it might be easier to move that function to where the modifiers get turned on/off....but I just dont know where that is handled right now..
21:19.37Boydellalthough im not sure that would work....hmm
21:20.10BoydellI need to find how/where the modifiers are handled, and use them for the cases..
21:21.46dcordesmicrop-keypad.c works fantastically well on my kovsky
21:22.12dcordeskovsky has no leds :)
21:22.50Boydellah ok
21:22.55Boydellgoes it have a CAPS button?
21:23.14dcordesyep everything- but zero LEDs for them. it's totally annoying actually
21:23.23Boydelllol
21:23.24dcordesif you use CLI
21:24.06Boydelli have the CAPS LED working, but at android level, CAPS doesnt work unless you press shift twice, but at the kernal debug level it does work
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21:24.40BoydellSo something is not right in the qwerty.kl file...
21:24.49dcordesBoydell, you need to pray to the java gods then and ask for help :D
21:25.10Boydellahha
21:25.15Boydellyah i dont know java
21:25.32BoydellI'm starting to grasp c, but its pretty simple
21:26.11Boydelland why java? what is being handled by java> the GUI?
21:26.54makkonendoes the caps key work at all in android? shift-shift is caps in android, no?
21:27.35Boydellyah it is
21:27.50Boydellpress and hold FN then the left arrow key
21:28.05Boydellbrings you to the debug messages
21:28.09BoydellCAPS works there
21:28.22chamonixwow, it even executes :)
21:30.49Boydellwhat does?
21:30.57chamonixdropbear
21:31.00Boydellahh
21:31.13Boydellnot sure what that is, but know you have been workin on it, so CONGRATS!
21:31.24chamonixty :) it's sshd
21:31.43Boydellahh ok
21:32.40Boydellfeel like ssh'in into your mobile device? lol
21:33.23chamonixwell I'm not there yet but it's the goal yes
21:33.35Boydelllol
21:33.40Boydellwhy not telnet?
21:34.29chamonixlol, I don't like my password being "visible", besides you can't do scp with telnetd
21:35.15Boydelltrue
21:35.35chamonixand more than that it's for the purpose of doing it ;)
21:35.58stinebd"just 'cause" is a just cause
21:36.11Boydelllmao. this is true.
21:36.38dcordespretty poor they don't build an ssh server for androed by default
21:37.02chamonixwell it's in the tree at least, didn't build with mm tho
21:37.28stinebdheh
21:37.28dcordessorry, mm?
21:37.32stinebdi think apache is in there too
21:37.40chamonixand the source from tree won't work as-is afaik
21:37.52chamonixmm = make for android tree
21:38.26dcordesright yet another reinvention of the wheel
21:38.32chamonixlol
21:39.07chamonixstinebd: what I would like to run is a micro apache with php to have dokuwiki-on-a-raph instead as -on-a-stick :)
21:39.19chamonixs/as/of
21:39.30dcordesnever used the androed sources for anything other than kernel cloning/browsing
21:39.31stinebdget some glue and a stick and you could have docuwiki-on-a-raph-on-a-stick
21:40.20Boydellwhat other type of linux OS's is there for mobile phones right now? I always see people talking about them...?
21:40.28chamonixwell I neither but there's some ineresting java code as well as RIL
21:41.04chamonixs/ine/inte
21:41.11phhBoydell: mer, ubuntu (mid, arm, whatever), qtopia, all stuff for openmoko (SHR, FSO)
21:41.13chamonixgive me my keys back!
21:41.24stinebdbusybox ;)
21:41.56BoydellI actually never new, i've been using winmo not knowing there was an alternative
21:42.11Boydell*knew
21:42.23stinebdif it has at least 4Kb ram, there's always an alternative
21:42.29chamonixactually I got android because I wanted to code java apps, and here I am  :-D
21:42.46Boydellwow
21:43.36BoydellI think I'll just stick with android right now. I'm just starting to understand things
21:44.31chamonixphh: any progress with nand on diam?
21:44.37phhno
21:44.40phhI haven't much time
21:44.41chamonix:-/
21:47.53phh(I say so but I'm looking at star wars.)
21:48.22chamonixlol
21:49.32stinebdbabijoee: latest bundle and updated system.sqsh works great, thanks
21:50.24Boydellbabijoee: raph800 users have been reporting the 1/25 system.sqsh is unstable and causes it to reboot android..
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22:07.17TehCAPShi there
22:07.18TehCAPSanyone alive?
22:07.28chamonix-.o
22:07.33Boydellsome are around
22:07.36TehCAPS:)
22:07.44TehCAPSim trying to setup android on my htc
22:07.47TehCAPSdiamond
22:07.52dcordes~seen ellisway
22:07.53aptellisway <n=ellis@94.30.45.128> was last seen on IRC in channel #htc-linux, 101d 18h 6m 25s ago, saying: 'mdrobnak AT+CSQ  %CSQ HTCCSQ'.
22:08.04dcordes~seen eway
22:08.05apteway <n=ellis@78-86-162-166.zone2.bethere.co.uk> was last seen on IRC in channel #htc-linux, 89d 25m 23s ago, saying: '24kHz is also a valid sample rate iirc'.
22:08.07TehCAPSi dont know what to put in default.txt
22:08.54TehCAPSany ideea please ?
22:09.06phhTehCAPS: read the readme file.
22:09.11chamonixTehCAPS: pick the right file from startups and copy it to startup.txt on ur SD root
22:09.14chamonix:-X
22:10.27chamonixphh: ty for the Image + modules.... wifi works like a charm (on/off)
22:10.38phhcool
22:10.47phhchamonix: have you noticed if the MAC changed ?
22:11.02phhchamonix: well modules are also for ramzswap
22:11.03chamonixno, I have to check my router for that as I have no filter
22:11.50TehCAPS<chamonix> TehCAPS: pick the right file from startups and copy it to startup.txt on ur SD root
22:11.55TehCAPSstartups ?
22:12.24chamonixI also noticed powerdown works, I have never got it running before nand
22:12.42chamonixTehCAPS: no pvt plz
22:12.59phhchamonix: might be MrPippy's fix, I haven't really looked at that
22:13.08TehCAPSfrom startups ?
22:13.10TehCAPSexplaing a bit please
22:13.54chamonixwell I tried it a few days ago and it hung..... I will reboot on system.sqsh tomorrow to see if it's fixed there too or if it's related to /sdcard being unmountable
22:14.05MrPippycurrently the fix is only doing anything on cdma diamond, and people are saying it kills sound, so it probably won't stay in
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22:15.10TehCAPShuh ?
22:16.03phhMrPippy: you commented the bye rpc call ?
22:16.09phhthat's the "fix" ?
22:16.27phhMrPippy: anyway we will have to even send an ARM9 reset call
22:16.27MrPippyyeah
22:16.35phhto do the boot cleanly
22:16.42phh(and boot from SPL meanwhile)
22:17.16chamonixbattery test starting NOW
22:17.30phhchamonix: oh wait I have a GPS to do for you
22:17.34phh(ok i'm kdding.)
22:17.38chamonixrofl
22:18.04chamonixI won't like GPS because of the drain anyway :P
22:18.15chamonixI'd like to order BT headset
22:19.19MrPippyyeah its more a hack than a fix. reboot still works though, maybe we could just have poweroff do a reset until we can find a real fix for poweroff
22:19.37chamonixMrPippy: power working here :P
22:19.43chamonix+off
22:20.06phhchamonix: I don't know what for a BT headset you want, but I got a "bluetooth to jack" adapter (meaning it's a headset without the earphones, but including mic & commands) for really cheap on dealextreme.com (i'm just saying.)
22:20.07chamonixif it works don't fix it
22:20.19phhchamonix: naaa, not calling END rpc is wrong
22:20.26phhanyway I think cr2 told me the fix for that -_-'
22:20.37phhon this saturday night iirc
22:21.44MrPippyyeah any changes will probably just be for cdma
22:21.58phhmmm not sure
22:23.03TehCAPSso
22:23.05TehCAPSits working
22:23.10TehCAPSandroid on htc diamond
22:23.11TehCAPSor not ?
22:23.19phhyes it is
22:23.21chamonixphh: is there any limitations on the BT sound supported by the bt stack?
22:23.21phhI use it daily.
22:23.31TehCAPSlol
22:23.34phhchamonix: on donut, only A2DP
22:23.34TehCAPShow did u installed?
22:23.44chamonixk
22:23.45phhTehCAPS: just extract the files and copy the startup.txt
22:24.10phhand avrcp
22:24.14TehCAPSdidit now
22:24.21TehCAPShope it will work
22:24.23TehCAPSavrcp ?
22:24.42TehCAPScreating a new data store
22:24.43TehCAPShuh
22:24.47phhavrcp is not for you.
22:24.54chamonix:)
22:25.03phhchamonix: if we want HSF working, it will be really tough
22:26.43TehCAPShuhph its working fine ?
22:27.50chamonixtime to deep-sleep :) gnite guys
22:28.10Boydellaww but its only 530PM charmonix
22:28.19phhBoydell: 11pm30 :p
22:28.21TehCAPSbtw phh
22:28.21phhchamonix: ++
22:28.31chamonixwell, here it's 1130 TehCAPS
22:28.33chamonixa+ phh
22:28.41Boydellyah i know, im being smart :P
22:28.42TehCAPSi will be able to come back to old htc ?
22:28.51TehCAPSif im not happy with android ?
22:28.53phhTehCAPS: yes just reboot.
22:28.55BoydellTehCAPS: yes
22:29.46TehCAPSOMG
22:29.50TehCAPSits awesomeeeeeeeee!
22:29.58TehCAPSim on the xandroid
22:30.02phhok.
22:30.25BoydellTehCAPS: dont spam how awesome it is. we know already
22:37.36BoydellSince I'm not too good with c, what does !! mean?
22:37.55phh!! ? in c ?
22:38.00phhnot not
22:38.01stinebdit indicates surprise
22:38.17Boydell!!(leds & 0x02)
22:38.32Boydellits being passed as a value, and int i think
22:38.38Boydell*an
22:38.47phhBoydell: it's 1 if leds&0x02 is true
22:38.49phh0 else
22:39.11Boydellsweet thanks phh
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22:46.56TehCAPSphh im on the market there
22:47.04TehCAPSits saying app will be downloaded
22:47.08TehCAPSwhen and where ?
22:47.08TehCAPS:)
22:47.30stinebdimmediately, and to /data
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22:47.48stinebd/data/app i guess
22:48.17TehCAPShow to get there ?
22:48.28stinebdyou don't
22:48.32TehCAPSim n00b on android
22:48.33TehCAPSbut ?
22:48.34TehCAPShow ?
22:48.35phhjust go in the men
22:48.36phhu
22:48.51TehCAPSand
22:48.51TehCAPS?
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22:49.12stinebdafter it's done installing it'll be in the apps menu :/
22:49.28TehCAPSoh
22:49.45stinebdassuming it's an app of course. if it's a widget it'll be in the widgets menu (tap and hold on the home screen background)
22:49.51TehCAPShmm
22:49.56TehCAPSim on the market
22:49.58TehCAPSat download
22:50.00TehCAPSand its saying
22:50.03cr2_Boydell: you want to fix the kbd leds ?
22:50.07TehCAPSstarting download
22:50.44cr2_fucking java blows me. josm is hanging again ;)
22:51.12phhcr2_: stop using java then :p
22:51.21stinebdi never got it to blow me
22:51.37stinebdso i switched to C
22:51.52cr2_flash editor does not work with swfdec for some reason
22:52.39cr2_heh. timed out :)
22:52.50cr2_i did >300 edits.
22:53.09stinebdhow bout with adobe flash
22:53.18stinebdit may induce vomit
22:53.19cr2_hate closed source
22:53.37stinebdor gnash. do they still work on that?
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22:53.56phhcr2_: java is open :p
22:54.15makkonenstinebd: ...was that a 5 line long blowjob joke?
22:54.16cr2_i'm not sure about the swfdec and gnash differences and their integration into iceweasel
22:54.31stinebdmakkonen: yes but not by design. it just sort of panned out that way
22:54.32cr2_phh: i mean adobe flashplayer
22:54.45phhoh right.
22:54.51makkonenstinebd: well, congratulations anyway.
22:55.19cr2_java makes an illusion to the silly programmers that they don't need to care abouut memory management.
22:55.29phh:)
22:55.39stinebdmemory is cheap anyway
22:55.49phherrr
22:56.11phhstinebd: that's how we've gone from 128MB to 2GB of RAM to basically do the same thing.
22:56.35stinebdyup
22:56.40stinebdand dont you forget it
22:56.45cr2_stinebd: on a phone extra ram means extra mA
22:57.08phhcr2_: that's why I've only 196MB mmm ?
22:57.37phhthey wanted a long lasting diamond.
22:57.45cr2_phh: why do they need 512MB on nexus ?
22:57.49cr2_to keep java happy ?
22:58.07phhcr2_: I still haven't figured out
22:58.17phhcr2_: what about the HD2 ? :p
22:58.21cr2_ms will certainly need 1GB of ram for its next wince .
22:58.23stinebdit's gotta be those wallpapers
22:58.33cr2_phh: leo has 256M
22:58.39cr2_LOL
22:58.45phhcr2_: uh ? they are said to have 448MB
22:58.53phhand US's one will have 512MB
22:58.57cr2_stinebd: with color gradient and 3D rotation effects
22:59.12cr2_phh: 256+64 ?
22:59.24phhcr2_: don't know
22:59.30cr2_NetRipper: ping
22:59.39NetRipperpong
22:59.43NetRipperi actually caught the ball there
22:59.43NetRipper:D
22:59.49cr2_:)
23:00.00cr2_NetRipper: how much ram does hd2 have ?
23:00.11NetRippershould have 512
23:00.14phh-_-'
23:00.18NetRipperon 0x2* and 0x3*
23:00.20cr2_without smi ?
23:00.30NetRipperprobably including
23:00.40cr2_strange size
23:01.09NetRipperi've only been booting on 0x2* now
23:01.15NetRipperand the first 64M
23:01.24cr2_NetRipper: does your lcd driver work ?
23:01.28cr2_ok
23:01.37NetRipperno havent worked much on it either
23:01.40NetRipperstill MDP stuff
23:01.50cr2_NetRipper: the uboot lcdc driver looks very simple
23:01.53NetRipperhangs when disabling interrupt during irq handler
23:02.00cr2_i doubt that it uses mdp
23:02.07ToAsTcfhwho ping me?
23:02.43ToAsTcfhphh: no camera yet?
23:03.50stinebdheh
23:03.55stinebdgps too!
23:04.47cr2_phh: any good idea on gps ?
23:04.50NetRippercr2_, "the t-mobile version gets 1gb rom and we get 512, plus thee ram is a lot more. 576MB to be exact, and it looks like they gonna get win7 upgrade."
23:05.26cr2_NetRipper: 1gb flash ?
23:05.52NetRipperyar
23:06.30NetRipperwonder what they'll do with the space
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23:07.36stinebdmore wallpapers
23:07.59cr2_yeah
23:08.21cr2_NetRipper: leo has copilot ?
23:08.23NetRipperyes
23:08.24NetRippertrial
23:08.33cr2_trial ?
23:08.35NetRippertwo weeks free
23:08.46NetRipperbuy it for 60 euros after or something alike
23:08.52cr2_how do they know ? online reg ?
23:08.55NetRipperyes
23:09.15NetRipperthough you can just use a diff email address if you hard reset your phone
23:09.15cr2_hehe. my a780 has qt version of copilot
23:09.36NetRipper^^ havent tried that actually though
23:09.43cr2_they used some strange length crypt for it.
23:09.45NetRipperim content with tomtom
23:10.04cr2_NetRipper: there is no tmc on leo ?
23:10.07NetRipperthough i loved the way copilot looks
23:10.17NetRipperand 3d seemed accelerated
23:10.38NetRipperbut no support for speedcams in copilot
23:10.41NetRipperis a dealbreaker
23:10.50cr2_copilt hits you with a weird noise, if you leave the calculated route. that was not fun.
23:11.01NetRippercr2_, not as long as nobody makes a GFMAPI interface for the radio in leo
23:11.15NetRipperi think author of GFMAPI for raphael is working on that
23:11.23NetRipperwhat's her name again
23:11.31cr2_NetRipper: but the rds is there ?
23:11.36cr2_flywc
23:11.52NetRipperyes her
23:12.12cr2_it's interesting that leo uses uart1dm
23:12.14NetRipperthe station name is available pretty easily, as the higher level HTC API is pretty straight forward
23:12.23NetRipper"getprogramname" dll call
23:12.41cr2_we know the programming interface only for brf6150
23:12.42NetRippercr2_, whenever she makes a GFMAPI for leo it probably won't be on that low hardware level
23:12.50cr2_s/61/63/
23:13.03NetRipperprobably against the .dll that the htc actually uses
23:13.14cr2_NetRipper: i care only about linux :)
23:13.18NetRipperyea thought so
23:13.23NetRipper:p
23:13.25NetRippertoo bad:p
23:13.40cr2_the first thing i'll try will be roadmap
23:13.59NetRipperhmm
23:14.07NetRippertotal program 336.93mb
23:14.15NetRipperused 180, free 156mb
23:14.35cr2_NetRipper: try memory test tool in haret
23:14.38NetRipperRAM size 448 MB
23:14.52NetRipperit says in htc's hardware info
23:14.59cr2_and watch the allocated addresses
23:15.08cr2_seems like 512MB to me
23:15.24cr2_-amss, -cam & co.
23:15.24NetRipperprobably 448MB for os and 64MB for gfx
23:15.28cr2_adsp
23:15.44cr2_it must have smi
23:15.53NetRipperyep i think that's part of the 448mb
23:15.54cr2_dex & smem
23:16.06NetRipperhence why only 336MB is available to programs
23:16.12NetRipperof that 448MB
23:16.17cr2_ok
23:16.19NetRipperOS + smi etc
23:16.20NetRipperi think
23:16.27cr2_needs to be investigated
23:16.31NetRipperyea
23:16.37NetRipperi need a memory map for linux anyway
23:16.41cr2_do we have an amss dump ?
23:16.56NetRipperummm you can probably find some radios on the forum
23:17.09cr2_ok
23:17.34NetRipperas HSPL is out
23:17.40NetRipperso radios become popular to flash usually
23:18.12NetRippercr2_, you feel like checking out how the HD2 is put to "exclusive mode" so that it can scale to 1ghz?
23:18.32NetRipperit should be in the game 'experiment 13'
23:18.36cr2_what is exclusive mode ?
23:18.57NetRipperwell im not sure if its virtual or "for real".. but by default the device, after boot, doesn't scale up to above 768mhz
23:19.04cr2_btw, it is possible to buy a connector for leo ?
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23:19.06NetRipperalso on heavy use like watching movies
23:19.39cr2_what does uboot source say ?
23:19.41NetRipperhowever a game like experiment 13 puts it to 1ghz... it puts the processor in "exclusive mode"
23:19.44NetRipperno idea
23:19.46NetRipperhavent checked
23:20.04cr2_it's for a dev board
23:20.04NetRippermight try to code a utility to put it into 1ghz
23:20.13cr2_but maybe they setup some evil bits at booot
23:20.15NetRipperhttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=576165
23:20.44NetRipperkholk has a "1ghz hack" but (dunno now, but at least a while back) doesnt want to share info regarding it :)
23:20.50NetRipperso i tend to find out for myself
23:21.01NetRipperi dont like mistery's
23:21.03cr2_ok, so no evil bits there
23:21.25cr2_check the uboot source first
23:21.55NetRipperi doubt uboot will put cpu to full speed
23:22.10cr2_NetRipper: you have posted the full rpc clock dump some time ago. do you still have this program ?
23:22.17NetRippereven the nexus one kernel puts it to 768mhz during boot
23:22.22cr2_why not ?
23:22.47NetRippercr2_, the program or the dump?
23:22.50NetRipperprogram was haret :p
23:23.14cr2_the trick is to setup the other busses properly
23:23.17cr2_the program
23:23.23cr2_it was not haret
23:23.51cr2_it was something calling rpc_get_clock_khz() api
23:23.55NetRipperahhh
23:23.56NetRipperyes
23:24.03NetRipperthat was for raphael
23:24.09cr2_yes
23:24.12NetRipperi probably still got that
23:24.53NetRipperyou want it, or you want the output?
23:25.01cr2_the prog
23:25.05NetRipperok sec
23:25.25TehCAPSwhy when i disable wifi on htc diamond android i get restart and i must reload android again
23:25.27TehCAPShuh
23:25.28cr2_i want to add it to haret
23:25.41cr2_and to watch some rpc details
23:25.48NetRipperin that case, you want the source?
23:25.51cr2_we still can't make gps work ;)
23:25.58cr2_NetRipper: if you have it
23:26.01NetRipperof course
23:26.47cr2_NetRipper: i don't think it's very difficult to do dlopen+dlsym in haret. but i'm worried if it's enough
23:27.13TehCAPSi still get on the market that thing : starting download
23:27.14NetRippercr2_, http://netripper.pastebin.com/f2dc4eb22
23:27.20TehCAPSbut its not downloading :(
23:28.29TehCAPSany ideea pls?
23:28.31cr2_NetRipper: thanks. it should be easy to add to haret
23:28.41NetRipperit must be MSM-specific
23:28.51NetRipperas it relies on an htc dll
23:29.04cr2_msmrpclk <num>
23:29.23cr2_we have a lot of such dlsym'd commands
23:29.25NetRipperyep and only expose the function for arch msm
23:29.34TehCAPS?
23:29.36TehCAPSany ideea pls?
23:29.39TehCAPSi still get on the market that thing : starting download
23:29.41TehCAPSbut its not downloading :(
23:29.52cr2_NetRipper: checking dll and func should be enough.
23:30.18NetRippercr2_, you can enable functions based on the detected device
23:30.24NetRipperits done for other archs as well
23:30.43cr2_NetRipper: i mostly miss the host loaded scripts
23:30.43cr2_ok
23:30.54NetRipperlet me try to find an example
23:32.03cr2_ATIDBG was a good example
23:32.15NetRipperok AC97 as well
23:32.18NetRipperin pxacmds
23:32.30cr2_the only tricky part about haret is get_wtoken() and get_expression()
23:32.33cr2_ok
23:32.54NetRipperhm thats not a function thats a parameter something
23:32.55NetRipper:p
23:33.12cr2_yes, commandline parser
23:33.25cr2_way too complex and smart
23:33.28NetRipperyes
23:34.02TehCAPSyeah
23:34.05TehCAPSthanks alot
23:34.25NetRipperTehCAPS, im not able to help you, sorry
23:35.13NetRippercr2_, ah yes the ATIDBG is a better example, but instead of what is in its AtiAvail function, use this:
23:35.32NetRipper<PROTECTED>
23:35.46maejrepNetRipper: so, the gpio/reboot trick worked in .27 to get to a point where I could see in the ram console what was happening, which let me get a working kernel..  but the same trick isn't working so well in .29 :x  have any suggestions? :)
23:35.48cr2_NetRipper: ok
23:35.54NetRipperor even better, check if the dll exists and if the function exists :D
23:36.18cr2_NetRipper: that's what atidbg is doing
23:36.36NetRipperoh
23:36.37NetRipperthen do that
23:36.38NetRipperlol
23:36.49NetRipperdidnt realise
23:37.19NetRippermaejrep, good to hear.. on .29, maybe it's stuck too early
23:37.28NetRippermay sound like a bust, but try using the Image instead of zImage
23:37.41NetRipperdecompression routine hangs the device for me at least ;)
23:37.41maejrephmm, really?
23:37.50maejrepis raph on .29 or .27 these days?
23:37.55stinebd.27
23:38.17NetRipperno idea but raph is ARMv6 and actually supports the instruction that makes the ARMv7 kernel crash
23:38.30maejrephero is v6 also
23:38.32NetRipperor were you on msm7k as well?
23:38.33NetRipperoh
23:38.44NetRippersorry thought it was a qsd8k :D
23:38.48NetRipperyou were working on ;)
23:38.49maejrepno, that's nexusone ;p
23:39.03maejrepfor which there's already working kernel source
23:39.49NetRipperhtc: The kernel for both Tattoo and Sprint Hero are now online for your coding pleasure. http://developer.htc.com/
23:39.59NetRipperyou checked that out?
23:41.39maejrepyes :p  i'm trying to port to 2.6.29 now ;)
23:44.13NetRipperok
23:48.19maejrepwould be nice if fastboot could actually show the early console messages while booting :p
23:48.48NetRipperimplement the htc_fb_console
23:49.04TehCAPSbtw is there any chance to boot all the time from the android ?
23:49.04maejrepram_console doesn't work, which would be initialized around the same time, no?
23:49.05NetRippermaybe it helps you
23:49.15TehCAPSi must use haret all the time
23:49.27maejrepalso, I tried htc_fb_console in .27, and couldn't get it to work
23:49.33NetRipperTehCAPS, i dont think so yet.. dzo is working on it for vogue i believe
23:49.39NetRippermaejrep, ah ok
23:50.05TehCAPSvogue ?
23:50.13NetRipperhtc vogue
23:50.16TehCAPSah
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23:59.10cr2_good night

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