| 00:00.21 | dcordes | gauner1986, so rootwait works |
| 00:00.31 | dcordes | gauner1986, maybe because it's much shorter than 3 sec |
| 00:00.43 | cr2_ | Markinus: 2a |
| 00:00.50 | cr2_ | Markinus: yes, the same |
| 00:00.56 | gauner1986 | dcordes: why would you have to put a delay there? |
| 00:01.11 | gauner1986 | dcordes: sd seems to be ready as rootfs can be mounted |
| 00:02.04 | dcordes | gauner1986, for it won't work w/o the rootwait. too fast |
| 00:02.40 | gauner1986 | dcordes: what doesnt work then? |
| 00:02.45 | dcordes | s/for/for me/ |
| 00:02.59 | dcordes | sd is not ready when trying to mount root |
| 00:03.36 | gauner1986 | dcordes: cant we just put a sleep in there? |
| 00:03.49 | dcordes | I will use rootwait as it's the proper way and it seems to work now.. |
| 00:04.09 | gauner1986 | it works for you? |
| 00:09.19 | dcordes | gauner1986, yes with the latest build I can reliably use rootfs from sd. of course it will die at some program, in case of the rootfs I use while starting udev (illegal instructions) |
| 00:09.45 | gauner1986 | dcordes: yeah.. i can use it too |
| 00:10.01 | gauner1986 | dcordes: sleep seems to hang the kernel oO |
| 00:10.45 | gauner1986 | rootdelay or sleep = kernel crash |
| 00:11.17 | dcordes | but not the rootwait. maybe because it's very short as I said |
| 00:11.45 | tmzt_ | so that's a timer thing? |
| 00:12.37 | dcordes | tmzt_, same thing that phh suspected when he read that |
| 00:12.52 | tmzt_ | and rootdelay? |
| 00:13.01 | tmzt_ | which I think is usleep and doesn't use a timeout |
| 00:13.16 | gauner1986 | also crashes |
| 00:13.50 | tmzt_ | randomblame: that "information" is initialization of the bridge part of the client chip |
| 00:14.08 | tmzt_ | the client chip has a a client part (the bridge), ram, and the lcdc |
| 00:17.38 | randomblame | so what could be screwey, the bridge information is wrong so the mddi client basically crashes causing the grey screen I have the data sheet on the client what information likely needs to be changed |
| 00:19.50 | cr2_ | Markinus: you can add the ds2745 driver from kaiser, but then we need (maybe) to fix the parameters in this file |
| 00:20.31 | randomblame | it's ilitek 9326, mddi type-I "the ili9326 enables direct connection to the base band chip without bridge chip" |
| 00:20.57 | gauner1986 | cr2_: do you perhaps have some clue, what the crashing issue on rootdelay or the sleep command could be about? |
| 00:21.20 | Markinus | cr2_: ok, I look to it. I tried the TS. We have here a elan8232 driver but it says . . hmm looks like not a elan ts .. . |
| 00:21.27 | Markinus | we have to find a other one |
| 00:21.46 | Markinus | cr2_: or du you know a working one? |
| 00:21.51 | cr2_ | gauner1986: you should be happy that it works at all |
| 00:22.08 | gauner1986 | cr2_: i am :) |
| 00:22.33 | cr2_ | Markinus: without mmutrace it'll be tough, but we can document the commands from the disasssmebly |
| 00:23.02 | Markinus | cr2_: yes, mmutrace . . . .:( |
| 00:23.12 | cr2_ | Markinus: but spi lcd first |
| 00:23.21 | tmzt_ | randomblame: just don't init that part |
| 00:23.24 | cr2_ | Markinus: what's wrong with bt ? |
| 00:23.25 | tmzt_ | it should already be done |
| 00:23.54 | Markinus | cr2_: no so much messages on boot :) We don'T need thos now . .. this is the only reason |
| 00:24.19 | randomblame | tmzt: ok I suppose I'll just have to patch msm_fb then |
| 00:24.30 | cr2_ | Markinus: hm. it may work ? |
| 00:25.05 | Markinus | cr2_: you mean Bluetooth right? |
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| 00:26.30 | cr2_ | yes |
| 00:26.52 | cr2_ | do you actually get gpio irqs at all ? |
| 00:27.09 | Markinus | cr2_: I think it's the same as nexus . .should the work. |
| 00:27.14 | Markinus | cr2_: no |
| 00:27.26 | Markinus | cr2_: I have some problems with GPIOs |
| 00:27.45 | cr2_ | ok. something to check too. |
| 00:27.48 | Markinus | cr2_: I tried some of then and put the GPIO CFG to I3 |
| 00:27.48 | cr2_ | good night |
| 00:27.49 | Markinus | nothing |
| 00:27.54 | cr2_ | ok |
| 00:27.57 | Markinus | cr2_: yes |
| 00:28.02 | Markinus | good night |
| 00:28.46 | gauner1986 | at some point of booting the screen goes black *mhm* |
| 00:28.47 | gauner1986 | ^^ |
| 00:29.02 | dcordes | gauner1986, I never get the black screen problem |
| 00:29.20 | gauner1986 | what do you get then at the end? |
| 00:29.38 | dcordes | gauner1986, well that depends on what your rootfs has |
| 00:31.15 | dcordes | <dcordes> gauner1986, yes with the latest build I can reliably use rootfs from sd. of course it will die at some program, in case of the rootfs I use while starting udev (illegal instructions) |
| 00:31.46 | gauner1986 | yeah.. i thought so of course.. but it would be interesting to know where it hangs |
| 00:33.28 | dcordes | why |
| 00:33.53 | dcordes | is the question |
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| 01:34.08 | eval- | this is pissing me off. it didn't randomly reboot every hour or two about two days ago. should i revert: kernel (i don't think IP nat module could be responsible), rootfs (RIL changes?) or system (went to donut sqsh from december for working bluetooth) |
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| 01:44.15 | eval- | maybe i can debug these annoying reboots using this ramconsole magic? pointers anyone? tail of dmesg is sitting in my ram on reboot, and i can view using?? haret? |
| 01:45.35 | makkonen | yeah |
| 01:45.45 | makkonen | make a default.txt with... hold on |
| 01:46.11 | makkonen | ~ramconsole |
| 01:46.12 | apt | it has been said that ramconsole is pwf dm 0x8e0000 0x20000 |
| 01:46.29 | makkonen | that. 'pwf dm 0x3e0000 0x20000' |
| 01:46.40 | makkonen | but I think it might be broken on raph800 at the moment. |
| 01:47.00 | makkonen | and if not, on raph800 'pwf dm.txt 0x8e2fd0 0x1d030' works better |
| 01:48.49 | eval- | i have diam500 |
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| 01:49.59 | makkonen | same thing |
| 01:50.06 | makkonen | they're nigh-identical |
| 01:50.15 | eval- | then about the brokenness too =( |
| 01:50.44 | eval- | ok so i add this as a separate line in startup.txt |
| 01:50.53 | eval- | and after the reboot, to view & safe the dmesg? |
| 01:50.59 | eval- | *save |
| 01:51.29 | makkonen | I make a separate folder, with another haret.exe and a different startup.txt |
| 01:51.31 | makkonen | with just that line |
| 01:52.05 | makkonen | then you open that haret, and immediately close it, and there'll be a file, dm, with the data in it. |
| 01:52.14 | eval- | oh i see. that isn't being parsed during boot, it's a way for haret to look at the ram that is always, be default, holding some piece of dmesg? |
| 01:52.16 | eval- | nice! |
| 01:52.35 | eval- | so in fact i could see the log right now! |
| 01:53.08 | makkonen | yes |
| 01:53.23 | makkonen | as long as you haven't taken out the battery |
| 01:55.12 | eval- | should it say "set pwf dm.txt 0x8e2fd0 0x1d030" or no set |
| 01:55.14 | ToAsTcfh | wow looking at gitorious u boyz been busy |
| 01:55.26 | makkonen | no set |
| 01:55.59 | ToAsTcfh | still no cmera though :'( |
| 01:59.32 | eval- | i don't think those addresses are right |
| 02:00.01 | makkonen | they are/were. but ramconsole got moved/removed, I think. |
| 02:00.09 | makkonen | is any of the file good? |
| 02:00.58 | eval- | and you wrote 3e |
| 02:00.58 | eval- | when apt wrote 8e |
| 02:04.04 | eval- | oh no matter all three of those addresses produce pure gibberish |
| 02:08.10 | eval- | ok so where pmem_setting.ram_console_start=MSM_SMI2_BASE+31*1024*1024; in pmem.c |
| 02:08.25 | eval- | MSM_SMI2_BASE is some hex |
| 02:08.36 | eval- | forgive my n00bness but you can mix adding hex & dec like that? |
| 02:09.26 | eval- | this would suggest ramconsole start at 3F00000? |
| 02:11.21 | eval- | nope more gibberish |
| 02:14.52 | eval- | what is this: pmem_setting.ram_console_size=0x0000; |
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| 02:24.31 | eval- | no one? a clue where/if ramconsole on a diam500? |
| 02:31.47 | eval- | ok. other things to do |
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| 03:02.13 | rojohacker | ? |
| 03:55.14 | rojohacker | l |
| 04:05.23 | |Jason8| | q |
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| 04:13.21 | randomblame | z? |
| 04:20.56 | rojohacker | n |
| 04:26.39 | randomblame | y |
| 04:39.53 | randomblame | bah lucid lynx smells like feet |
| 04:44.12 | randomblame | I wish microsoft would implement this type of bug reporting system, it would be a completely different platform |
| 04:44.34 | randomblame | imagine a world where the most popular operating system was bug free and open |
| 05:15.53 | randomblame | odd my latest kernel image only works with htc_Fb_console enabled, it hangs otherwise. |
| 05:25.56 | randomblame | woot the kernel is now clean enough to boot all the way to userland msm_fb is starting on it's own accord, still a grey screen but I'm a happy camper! |
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| 05:57.10 | randomblame | this is the most beautiful console message I've ever seen "Console: switching to colour frame buffer device 30x50" |
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| 07:03.03 | kyppcgeek | hey |
| 07:03.41 | kyppcgeek | we get linux or android working for htc touch pro cdma? |
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| 08:14.48 | kholk | re all |
| 08:15.10 | kholk | NetRipper: are you here? |
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| 08:19.39 | kholk | I assume not |
| 08:19.41 | kholk | lol |
| 08:20.01 | kholk | Tigerzen: good morning :) |
| 08:20.25 | Tigerzen | heyho !! |
| 08:20.33 | kholk | have you tried the latest kernel? |
| 08:20.46 | Tigerzen | I susspect a interrssting news ? ^^ |
| 08:20.56 | kholk | I want to know if there's any problem with my HTC HD2 |
| 08:21.06 | Tigerzen | Ok |
| 08:21.07 | kholk | or the latest kernel are really not working |
| 08:21.10 | Tigerzen | Im not doctor |
| 08:21.23 | kholk | please, try the latest autobuilt kernel |
| 08:21.31 | kholk | it should be.. |
| 08:21.37 | Tigerzen | Ok what a matter N |
| 08:21.38 | Tigerzen | ? |
| 08:21.49 | kholk | 210310_2320 |
| 08:21.52 | Tigerzen | black screen, hangs ? |
| 08:21.56 | kholk | heh |
| 08:22.01 | kholk | it hangs at HaRET |
| 08:22.40 | Tigerzen | ah normal maybe your rom 578hacks or you dont have 2.08_2 radio then maybe need change memory on ramsize 08000000 |
| 08:23.00 | kholk | so wait. |
| 08:23.04 | Tigerzen | ok |
| 08:23.07 | kholk | are you saying that I don't have to enable |
| 08:23.17 | kholk | the 576MB RAM in my ROM? |
| 08:23.32 | Tigerzen | yes hacks |
| 08:23.54 | kholk | so I have to use a ROM that asys that I've got 448MB RAM, right? |
| 08:23.58 | Tigerzen | Artemis no have hacks this way rom you need to use |
| 08:24.09 | kholk | ouh, well.. |
| 08:24.19 | kholk | I'm using EugeniaROM, I'm the cooker ^^ |
| 08:24.29 | kholk | so, I'll cook a ROM with 448MB |
| 08:24.38 | Tigerzen | lol i dont know who are you now i know |
| 08:24.46 | kholk | retrying :D |
| 08:24.47 | kholk | hahah :D |
| 08:24.49 | Tigerzen | Eugenia have hack roms |
| 08:24.53 | kholk | yes |
| 08:25.01 | kholk | my ROM is highly hacked.. hahah :) |
| 08:25.11 | Tigerzen | thehn i try one |
| 08:25.18 | kholk | cookin' a not hacked one :D |
| 08:26.08 | Tigerzen | Yes i know i use Eugenia French to its the best speed |
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| 08:26.52 | kholk | :)) |
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| 08:28.41 | seg | Hi kholk. Whats the state of play with booting linux on the HD2 at the moment? |
| 08:29.19 | Tigerzen | line and try again (e.g. 'git pull <repository> <refspec>'). |
| 08:29.23 | Tigerzen | got this errot |
| 08:29.25 | randomblame | anyone have a pudn account? |
| 08:30.42 | kholk | hi seg |
| 08:30.49 | kholk | at the moment I'm in some trouble |
| 08:31.10 | kholk | but Tigerzen says that it's a problem of my HD2 |
| 08:31.20 | kholk | because I've got a 576MB RAM enabled ROM |
| 08:31.27 | Tigerzen | Maybe |
| 08:31.28 | kholk | and I have to use the old XIP |
| 08:31.37 | Tigerzen | yes |
| 08:31.52 | kholk | but in development status |
| 08:31.57 | kholk | we're at some good point |
| 08:32.15 | kholk | the framebuffer module works |
| 08:32.43 | kholk | and some clocks are fixed |
| 08:32.59 | kholk | we don't know at the moment if the touchscreen works |
| 08:33.09 | kholk | because we don't have anything that uses it |
| 08:33.16 | kholk | we have to try to boot Android |
| 08:33.18 | kholk | that uses it |
| 08:33.27 | kholk | and see if it works at least singletouch |
| 08:33.45 | kholk | (but if it works multitouch we won't be sad!) |
| 08:33.56 | kholk | anyway, the radio interfaces aren't working for now |
| 08:34.04 | kholk | and USB too |
| 08:34.16 | kholk | or at least for the USB thing, it works only for a half |
| 08:34.30 | kholk | (at least for USB network) |
| 08:34.57 | kholk | I was trying to use it for connecting the htcleo linux to my linux box for working via SSH |
| 08:35.17 | kholk | because that would speed up some development things |
| 08:35.47 | kholk | htcleo configures its net interfaces, but my PC doesn't recognize any USB net interfaces |
| 08:36.02 | kholk | so it's clear that the usb module isn't working correctly |
| 08:36.30 | kholk | anyway, the most important thing now is to see the status of the kernel, if it hangs when executing the linux shell or not |
| 08:36.51 | kholk | because if it hangs, then it's possible that the USB module works correctly and we aren't connecting to it because of the hang |
| 08:40.16 | kholk | Tigerzen: have you tried the kernel? :) |
| 08:41.58 | seg | Thanks kholk, don't know if you guys are aware, but I installed the latest Hong Kong rom, 1.72, and had trouble with certain releases of Haret. |
| 08:42.48 | seg | Looks like some fantastic progress guys |
| 08:43.03 | kholk | you're lucky |
| 08:43.19 | kholk | for me the dopod rom says hardware is not customized for your OS |
| 08:43.19 | kholk | lol |
| 08:43.48 | kholk | I'm cooking a 476MB ROM with 1.72 O2 drivers |
| 08:43.48 | kholk | lol |
| 08:44.05 | kholk | hoping that Tigerzen is right.. :P |
| 08:44.38 | seg | It seems alot faster than 1.66 that I was using before |
| 08:46.13 | kholk | good to know :D |
| 08:46.19 | kholk | I'm using 2.10 base |
| 08:46.30 | kholk | and it's faster than 1.66 |
| 08:46.31 | kholk | :P |
| 08:47.04 | kholk | Tigerzen: ping! |
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| 08:49.28 | eval- | recently i have data troubles, where the 'UP' 3G arrow is 'stuck' |
| 08:49.37 | eval- | i see a lot of this |
| 08:49.55 | eval- | D/RILJ ( 1272): [0239]> DATA_CALL_LIST |
| 08:49.55 | eval- | D/RIL ( 1210): onRequest: DATA_CALL_LIST |
| 08:49.56 | eval- | E/RILC ( 1210): RIL_onRequestComplete: invalid RIL_Token |
| 08:50.28 | kholk | eval-: what device? |
| 08:50.38 | eval- | I also see dozens and dozens of: DATA_CALL_LIST and sometimes D/GSM ( 1272): [GsmDataConnectionTracker] no DATAIN in a while; polling PDP |
| 08:50.42 | eval- | diam500 on sprint |
| 08:51.10 | kholk | mmh |
| 08:51.12 | kholk | CDMA.. |
| 08:51.23 | eval- | sometimes stop poll netstat and start poll netstat |
| 08:51.30 | eval- | and a lot of that invalid RIL_Token |
| 08:51.56 | kholk | use rootfs-20100314-7a408f6 |
| 08:52.05 | kholk | I see in the thread that someone got it working with this :) |
| 08:52.14 | eval- | which thread? |
| 08:52.25 | eval- | no, it works for a while. it just eventually goes silly |
| 08:52.52 | kholk | are you sure that you're still in 3G while it stops? |
| 08:53.58 | eval- | how can i tell? |
| 08:54.01 | eval- | i mean, i have a ppp interface |
| 08:54.16 | kholk | take your phone |
| 08:54.18 | eval- | but i cannot be sure that is not edge? |
| 08:54.24 | kholk | and put it for example on a table |
| 08:54.32 | kholk | where the 3G network is strong |
| 08:54.34 | eval- | that's where it is yes |
| 08:54.37 | kholk | umh |
| 08:54.44 | eval- | oh i am in new york city |
| 08:54.48 | eval- | i always get 3G |
| 08:54.59 | kholk | heh, I don't know how it is the signal in the USA |
| 08:55.03 | eval- | in new jersey yes i can have more difficulty |
| 08:55.04 | kholk | I'm in Italy ^^ |
| 08:55.09 | kholk | anyway |
| 08:55.17 | kholk | does your phone do the same thing |
| 08:55.23 | kholk | when you're in edge? |
| 08:55.26 | eval- | i can get that rootfs but that was before the fix |
| 08:55.34 | eval- | i have not been in edge for more than a second or two |
| 08:55.43 | eval- | i do not think the switch is working |
| 08:55.43 | kholk | can you lock your network to edge? |
| 08:55.46 | kholk | umh |
| 08:55.54 | eval- | that has been a subject too |
| 08:55.55 | kholk | well, if you can switch |
| 08:56.13 | kholk | and see if it does the same things with edge |
| 08:56.21 | kholk | at least you'll be sure that the problem is only with 3G |
| 08:56.31 | kholk | try to switch to edge only in windows mobile |
| 08:56.40 | kholk | and see if android does the same |
| 08:56.45 | kholk | ^^ |
| 08:57.03 | eval- | maybe i will just use the old rootfs and do my donut fix on it |
| 08:57.12 | eval- | can i force edge in shell? |
| 08:57.22 | kholk | sincerely, I don't know |
| 08:57.25 | eval- | i do not even know how to make windows mobile only use 2G |
| 08:57.32 | kholk | hahah |
| 08:57.35 | kholk | in wimo it's simple |
| 08:57.43 | kholk | go to network options |
| 08:57.50 | kholk | and switch! |
| 08:58.01 | kholk | for me |
| 08:58.11 | kholk | I can find GSM and UMTS options |
| 08:58.23 | kholk | I don't know if for CDMA networks are called the same |
| 08:58.37 | kholk | but I suppose it's the same |
| 08:58.51 | eval- | another thing |
| 08:59.00 | eval- | my RX of my ppp0 interface is often like 40-50mb |
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| 08:59.54 | eval- | that seems like a lot |
| 09:00.03 | eval- | i disable sync and other things |
| 09:00.44 | kholk | maybe it's an error of diciture |
| 09:00.58 | kholk | however, if it increases incrementally then it's not an error |
| 09:01.15 | eval- | i will watch with my carrier logs |
| 09:01.39 | kholk | yes it's best :) |
| 09:01.43 | eval- | i have unlimited everything here for 20 |
| 09:01.51 | eval- | but i understand when i move to germany it will be much more expensive |
| 09:01.56 | eval- | and i will be capped at 200-300mb |
| 09:02.06 | eval- | unless they let me use a "laptop" plan with my phone, then 1GB or 5GB |
| 09:02.19 | randomblame | bandwidth caps are the devil |
| 09:02.30 | eval- | randomblame: for our debugging, most def |
| 09:02.50 | eval- | randomblame: you a europunk? who can i subscribe with? |
| 09:03.08 | randomblame | no I'm in the americas :D |
| 09:03.49 | randomblame | though I'm not sure for how long now that they're passing laws without the will of the people |
| 09:03.58 | eval- | network options |
| 09:04.02 | eval- | randomblame: what laws? |
| 09:04.10 | randomblame | healthcare reform passed |
| 09:04.12 | eval- | i do not see network options |
| 09:04.16 | eval- | oh it passed? |
| 09:04.40 | randomblame | yep, they bribed, threatened, and blackmailed enough congressmen |
| 09:04.56 | randomblame | in november, they're all going to be out on their asses |
| 09:04.56 | eval- | i can't believe we have some of the worth child mortality rates in the developed world and our approach is to subsidize a broken system |
| 09:05.18 | eval- | but every other country has socialized medicine. and they have better health outcomes |
| 09:05.37 | eval- | i think we are the only country in the world where basic health plans are for-profit |
| 09:05.38 | randomblame | no they don't have better health care they have more of it lol |
| 09:05.49 | kholk | I quote randomblame :) |
| 09:05.53 | eval- | well, they have less child mortality and they live longer |
| 09:05.58 | eval- | but it really depends on the country |
| 09:06.08 | eval- | singapore is totally state-owned and it does amazing |
| 09:06.16 | eval- | UK is totally state-owned and it doesn't do as amazing |
| 09:06.31 | eval- | still, we are the only place trying to make it for-profit |
| 09:06.33 | kholk | heh, at least here in italy healthcare is the only thing that the government is really offering.. |
| 09:06.34 | kholk | lol |
| 09:06.39 | randomblame | all I know is that at the rate the federal government has been growing unemployment will soon be at 0 haha |
| 09:06.39 | eval- | and we are paying 2x more than anyone else in the world |
| 09:06.46 | eval- | haha |
| 09:07.00 | kholk | no, really |
| 09:07.07 | kholk | you're really lucky to live in the US |
| 09:07.17 | eval- | kholk: i never had dental coverage |
| 09:07.23 | randomblame | everyone in the country will be federal employees with sickles on their arm badges |
| 09:07.24 | eval- | kholk: because my parents employers never provided it |
| 09:07.45 | Scepterr | tmo provides awesome medical for their employees |
| 09:07.46 | eval- | kholk: now i have to pay $200 a month for very minimal coverage through COBRA |
| 09:07.58 | randomblame | I love my country, I hate the democratic party |
| 09:08.02 | kholk | eval, here in italy only the basic healthcare is free |
| 09:08.06 | eval- | kholk: my family in france has very very good coverage |
| 09:08.11 | eval- | kholk: and they pay nothing |
| 09:08.12 | kholk | dental coverage is selfpaid |
| 09:08.26 | eval- | kholk: really? i am taking a job in germany and dental is only self-paid if you fail to go regularly |
| 09:08.37 | kholk | trust me, the life in the US is easy. |
| 09:08.38 | eval- | if you miss check-ups, then you have to pay if you get cavities |
| 09:08.46 | eval- | kholk: i know a lot of people who would disagree |
| 09:08.52 | kholk | eval-: here aren't regular check-ups |
| 09:09.14 | kholk | in italy you don't pay tickets for basic checkups |
| 09:09.18 | eval- | kholk: why is italy doing so much worse than france or switzerland or germany for checkups? |
| 09:09.29 | kholk | but only for very basic ones |
| 09:09.37 | kholk | eval, the italian situation is very bad |
| 09:09.57 | eval- | wow, that sucks |
| 09:09.59 | kholk | here in italy the only beautiful thing is in the south italy |
| 09:10.21 | randomblame | the u.s. constitution does not provide congress or senate the authority to force citizens to purchase anything, yet they've passed a law doing so. I won't buy insurrance, I wont pay the fines either they'll have to come to my house with bigger guns than I have |
| 09:10.25 | kholk | in south italy there is the BEAUTIFUL italy |
| 09:10.37 | kholk | but not for money..... |
| 09:10.38 | eval- | randomblame: yes i think there was a more elegant solution than the mandate |
| 09:10.38 | kholk | lol |
| 09:10.45 | eval- | randomblame: allow people who do not want to pay, not to pay |
| 09:10.56 | kholk | I mean, italy is really elegant and the most beautiful country for tourism |
| 09:11.03 | eval- | randomblame: but, if they get sick, and they want to get coverage, they will not be protected from being denied for pre-existing conditions and all the things here |
| 09:11.05 | kholk | infact I love my city and how it is |
| 09:11.15 | eval- | kholk: i know a woman in DC who was refused health coverage several times because she had been raped |
| 09:11.18 | kholk | but talking of government things, here all is really crap |
| 09:11.25 | eval- | kholk; the insurance companies said it was a "pre-existing condition" |
| 09:11.30 | kholk | DC? |
| 09:11.34 | eval- | washington |
| 09:11.39 | kholk | ouh okay :P |
| 09:11.40 | eval- | district of columbia |
| 09:11.55 | kholk | unfortunately I haven't ever been in the US |
| 09:12.04 | kholk | but I'm planning to go for a trip |
| 09:12.15 | eval- | kholk: it is nice. the people are great. life is much cheaper. the food isn't as good |
| 09:12.18 | randomblame | they just need to stop passing giant bills that their constituants tell them they don't want. A government can not fix the problems of it's citizens, the best it can do is stay out of things |
| 09:12.25 | kholk | anyway, I live in Italy, and I'm living the european "situation" |
| 09:12.35 | kholk | and I can tell you, the US is really the best out there |
| 09:12.48 | eval- | randomblame: i totally disagree. i thank god that the government takes care of my police, my fire department, my roads, my k-12 |
| 09:12.53 | kholk | I ever thinked and I think actually that I'll go to work to the US |
| 09:12.58 | eval- | randomblame: we have tried to privatize police and fire and it does not work |
| 09:13.09 | eval- | randomblame: some things are not better in private industry, fire departments was one of them |
| 09:13.13 | randomblame | we have volunteer fire departments everywhere |
| 09:13.15 | kholk | I'm sad because I'll leave my beautiful country |
| 09:13.17 | eval- | randomblame: i am not sure why healthcare is better in private |
| 09:13.18 | kholk | but it's for my life |
| 09:13.32 | eval- | randomblame: it seems we pay more and get less value and have the most privatized system |
| 09:13.39 | kholk | and... heh, my girlfriend thinks the same.. :P |
| 09:13.44 | randomblame | everything is better when the free market is actually free |
| 09:13.48 | eval- | kholk: you could make good money in california |
| 09:14.02 | eval- | randomblame: yes. our health insurance market needs to be broken up |
| 09:14.12 | eval- | randomblame: that pisses me off the most. this bill is not going to hurt the health insurance companies |
| 09:14.17 | eval- | they will continue to monopolize and fix high prices |
| 09:14.29 | eval- | we will just give them more tax dollars to be inefficient! |
| 09:14.43 | randomblame | yes, and completely de regulated there would be 20 dollar a month plans without all the nonsense |
| 09:14.48 | eval- | they are even more inefficient than medicare or the canadian health system! how ridiculous is that. they need more competition |
| 09:14.59 | randomblame | there are insurrance companies all over the country up all night partying right now |
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| 09:15.11 | eval- | yeah. the damn mandate goes right into their pockets |
| 09:15.17 | eval- | as they continue to raise the prices of services |
| 09:15.22 | randomblame | yep |
| 09:15.41 | randomblame | but the mandate doesn't go into effect for a few years, it will be repealed soon enough |
| 09:15.42 | eval- | that's the craziest part |
| 09:15.54 | eval- | we force you to pay into a system, ... but a private system |
| 09:16.00 | eval- | it is like we have the worst of public and private together |
| 09:16.09 | eval- | it is not a system where you have voting power on how the money is spent |
| 09:16.19 | eval- | and if you are too poor, we will use the tax pool to help you pay... a private insurance company |
| 09:17.44 | randomblame | yep |
| 09:18.12 | eval- | did they end up cutting the public option all together? |
| 09:18.23 | randomblame | there is no public option |
| 09:18.26 | eval- | i'm not sure the public option would help, because it would probably only take the sickest rejects from the private insurers |
| 09:18.33 | eval- | so it might have not been fiscally solvent |
| 09:18.43 | eval- | since risk has to be balanced |
| 09:18.44 | randomblame | also they passed the doc fix and second bill |
| 09:18.49 | eval- | that's what happened in maine and tenn |
| 09:19.04 | eval- | doc fix? 2nd bill? |
| 09:19.08 | randomblame | well the main bill plus doc fix will cost 1 trillion in the first decade |
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| 09:19.20 | randomblame | yeah no one heard about the fix-it bills |
| 09:19.56 | randomblame | they couldn't convince people to vote for it if the congressional budget office rated it as expensive, so they made it so it would save us money, then added the second bill everything that made it actually work |
| 09:20.16 | eval- | well the cost of iraq will soon be 1 trillion |
| 09:20.29 | randomblame | so it will end up costing us over a trillion in the first decade rather than their claimed 1 trillion savings |
| 09:20.43 | randomblame | obama has already spent 2 trillion. |
| 09:20.52 | eval- | so in my view if we have the money, i would rather we get our health lifespan statistics closer to canada's than invade iraq |
| 09:21.01 | randomblame | with the help of his legislators |
| 09:21.20 | randomblame | the problem is we don't have the money, we didn't have it for the stimulus package either |
| 09:21.27 | randomblame | that is borrowed money |
| 09:21.39 | randomblame | on which interest is incurred |
| 09:21.44 | randomblame | lots of interest |
| 09:21.54 | eval- | that's funny out national debt usually always decreases with democrats |
| 09:22.00 | eval- | only republicans raise the national debt |
| 09:22.01 | eval- | http://zfacts.com/p/318.html |
| 09:22.03 | randomblame | in fact the ammount of interest we are paying now is almost equal to our gdp |
| 09:22.07 | randomblame | we are bankrupt |
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| 09:22.41 | randomblame | it's the other way around liberals expand government and it's costs, conservatives shrink it |
| 09:22.43 | eval- | kholk: i did not find network settings |
| 09:22.52 | eval- | randomblame: no. just look up the national debt as % of gdp |
| 09:22.57 | eval- | randomblame: and look at who was in office |
| 09:23.12 | eval- | randomblame: reagan & bush1&2 raised our debt more than any other presidents |
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| 09:23.39 | kholk | eval-: Settings -> Personal -> Phone |
| 09:23.42 | randomblame | they both had democrats in office during their first terms as legislaters, the people who passed the budgets |
| 09:23.51 | eval- | what? |
| 09:24.00 | eval- | dude reagan wasted all our money are star wars |
| 09:24.05 | eval- | and bush 1&2 threw it into wars |
| 09:24.15 | eval- | only democrats have shrunk the budget since the 1940s |
| 09:24.17 | kholk | -> Network |
| 09:24.20 | eval- | the statistics are all online, you can read it yourself |
| 09:24.22 | kholk | oops |
| 09:24.28 | kholk | --> GSM/UMTS Service |
| 09:24.34 | kholk | -> Band |
| 09:24.43 | kholk | and you can set your band |
| 09:24.47 | randomblame | star wars was cheap, and now we have air to air lasers |
| 09:24.56 | kholk | (seeing it on WM6.5.5) |
| 09:24.58 | randomblame | wars are worth it for social stability |
| 09:25.06 | randomblame | unless the reasons suck |
| 09:25.08 | eval- | kholk: on wm6.5 |
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| 09:25.10 | randomblame | like iraq |
| 09:25.16 | eval- | randomblame: uhm. 1 million iraqis are dead |
| 09:25.21 | randomblame | afganistan had it coming tho |
| 09:25.30 | eval- | randomblame: they did not have al qaeda there until after we invaded. we never found WMDs |
| 09:25.43 | eval- | randomblame: don't give me the 'stability' crap. a million innocent poor people are dead |
| 09:25.55 | randomblame | right a million innocent people died |
| 09:25.59 | randomblame | I believe that |
| 09:26.04 | eval- | it's messed up! |
| 09:26.06 | eval- | it makes me feel sick |
| 09:26.22 | eval- | randomblame: those estimates are from two journals, one american one british |
| 09:26.42 | eval- | randomblame: they did a census, door to door they photocopied death certificates and compared to pre-war population mortality |
| 09:26.47 | randomblame | that was sarcasm 900 thousand of them are combatants and the others accidents |
| 09:27.08 | eval- | dude, i don't think you have any grasp on the demographics of iraq, the insurgency is not that large |
| 09:27.26 | eval- | the taliban in afghanistan were more formidable. and even they were something altogether different than al qaeda |
| 09:27.35 | eval- | which seems to exist quite comfortably in the mountains of pakistan still |
| 09:27.59 | randomblame | no, that's why it's hard to hit them with the big expensive missles, if congress would give us another surge of ground troops there would be less casualties but they're assholes who want to hit them from the air |
| 09:28.02 | eval- | no, most of the death since the invasion is because civil infrastructure broke down... lack of chlorine to purify water, etc |
| 09:28.39 | eval- | hehe ok i think we have to agree to disagree and stick to htc :p |
| 09:28.46 | randomblame | whatever did people do before there was chlorine :D |
| 09:28.51 | eval- | i hate the health bill as it is but for many different reasons |
| 09:28.56 | eval- | randomblame: haha uh, they died a lot? |
| 09:29.01 | randomblame | lol |
| 09:29.02 | eval- | randomblame: modern living is awesome |
| 09:29.25 | randomblame | yes life without pop tarts and chlorine and super phones would blow |
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| 09:29.43 | eval- | when i was 15 i spent all my money to build a dual pentium pro |
| 09:29.50 | randomblame | oooh |
| 09:29.50 | eval- | with like, 192megs of ram, and 850mb of hard drive space |
| 09:29.58 | eval- | now, i have this silly phone |
| 09:30.01 | eval- | with 288m of ram |
| 09:30.04 | eval- | wtf |
| 09:30.11 | eval- | how about, 13 years from now? |
| 09:30.18 | eval- | what will be in my pocket |
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| 09:30.29 | randomblame | when I was 12 I spent all my money to build a single dx in a cardboard box |
| 09:30.37 | randomblame | couldn't afford the case |
| 09:30.39 | randomblame | lol |
| 09:30.59 | eval- | what was a dx? |
| 09:31.41 | randomblame | pentium pros grandpa |
| 09:31.56 | randomblame | 386 |
| 09:32.20 | eval- | oooh |
| 09:32.34 | eval- | i played with the apple][s for a while at school |
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| 09:32.47 | randomblame | can't wait for my phone of the future with an i7 equivalent cpu and a terabyte of ram |
| 09:33.03 | randomblame | yeah those greenscreen apples were good fun |
| 09:33.09 | randomblame | oregon trail - what a game |
| 09:33.16 | eval- | randomblame: and the 3d hologram whores with non-broken touchpad drivers? |
| 09:33.39 | randomblame | as long as they're not broken haha that would be an improvement right there |
| 09:34.42 | randomblame | bah I broke my defconfig again |
| 09:35.02 | randomblame | I made good progress though today, frame buffer is working phone is completely bootable |
| 09:35.16 | randomblame | video output still consists of a grey screen, bad mddi driver |
| 09:35.24 | randomblame | but the frame buffer works! |
| 09:35.33 | eval- | what device? |
| 09:35.38 | randomblame | lg incite |
| 09:36.29 | eval- | cool |
| 09:36.44 | eval- | just for kicks? so little ram =/ |
| 09:36.51 | randomblame | yeah, for kicks |
| 09:37.09 | randomblame | figure a tight kernel and distro might make better use of the ram than winmo tho |
| 09:37.37 | eval- | for sure |
| 09:37.50 | eval- | yay you can join myn and i on the quest to bring donut to full throttle |
| 09:38.08 | randomblame | full throttle? |
| 09:38.13 | eval- | well, bluetooth broke |
| 09:38.13 | randomblame | oh donut hehe yep |
| 09:38.21 | eval- | and several things that used to work |
| 09:38.33 | eval- | so, there is a little tinkering. also a lot of weird errors |
| 09:38.43 | eval- | but we are getting there. it's very fast... when it's not crashing =) |
| 09:38.49 | randomblame | once I get 2.6.27 working I think that will be the end of my kernel tinkering, so donut it is |
| 09:39.11 | eval- | eclair requires .29? |
| 09:39.47 | randomblame | yes I think so |
| 09:39.58 | randomblame | unless someone got around it that was the intention of google anyways |
| 09:40.36 | randomblame | froyo .32 |
| 09:40.50 | randomblame | suposedly |
| 09:41.03 | randomblame | brb |
| 09:41.35 | eval- | i want my dual core tegra2 phone with 1gb. tomorrow please |
| 09:41.44 | eval- | i almost want to just skip the nexus |
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| 09:43.51 | randomblame | I don't want a nexus |
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| 09:44.10 | randomblame | where's the fun in having a phone designed for linux when you can FORCE one |
| 09:44.14 | eval- | haha i know |
| 09:44.18 | eval- | i am buying a touch pro 2 |
| 09:44.24 | eval- | just because everything would 'work' on the nexus |
| 09:44.27 | eval- | why pay $500 for that?! |
| 09:44.34 | randomblame | lol exactly |
| 09:44.35 | eval- | also, it's $500 |
| 09:44.40 | randomblame | true |
| 09:45.00 | randomblame | I like to see a device kick and scream when I tell it what to do |
| 09:45.45 | randomblame | http://pastebin.com/ejYSTmzY |
| 09:45.54 | randomblame | there's the incite kicking and screaming |
| 09:47.41 | eval- | haha what is hang bypassed? |
| 09:47.46 | eval- | damn seems you're gettinf pretty far |
| 09:47.49 | randomblame | magical haxors |
| 09:47.52 | eval- | how much tweaking did the kernel need |
| 09:48.01 | randomblame | a lottttt |
| 09:48.20 | randomblame | switching to colour frame buffer device 30x50 |
| 09:48.25 | randomblame | is that right? seems low |
| 09:48.51 | randomblame | actually the fix for irqs for the incite is what fixed irqs for leo |
| 09:48.54 | eval- | that's in characters not pixels right? |
| 09:49.20 | randomblame | hell if I know, I finally got that message today |
| 09:49.25 | eval- | what is the cheapest device with a wifi chip that can go into promiscuous mode, and will it run android? |
| 09:49.50 | randomblame | lol @ promiscuous mode |
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| 09:50.00 | eval- | Console: switching to colour frame buffer device 170x48 |
| 09:50.03 | randomblame | no idea |
| 09:50.12 | eval- | that's what my lappy says when i boot... pretty sure it's characters |
| 09:50.13 | randomblame | what device outputs that message |
| 09:50.18 | randomblame | yeah probably |
| 09:50.21 | eval- | as3810t |
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| 09:51.21 | randomblame | it's just lower than htc phones because the resolution is lower |
| 09:52.07 | eval- | but you don't get console tty0 enabled |
| 09:52.30 | eval- | or all the cpu init stuff |
| 09:52.47 | randomblame | [ 0.360015] console [tty0] enabled |
| 09:52.55 | eval- | oh yes you do |
| 09:52.59 | eval- | you get all the way to ext2 |
| 09:53.00 | randomblame | [ 2.026092] ACPU running at 528000 KHz |
| 09:53.01 | eval- | sweet |
| 09:53.12 | eval- | so what now? where are you stuck |
| 09:53.23 | randomblame | video output on lcd is grey screen |
| 09:53.52 | randomblame | ram console displays output, htc_fb_console displays output not msm_fb |
| 09:53.57 | randomblame | seems to be mddi client issue |
| 09:55.02 | randomblame | and it's a rare mddi client ilitek ili9326 |
| 09:55.12 | randomblame | so no one has used it before with this cpu and kernel |
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| 09:56.07 | randomblame | I've been talking to a guy who worked on the kernel for the lg eve, lg employee, who said he would get me the source for the lg atos-l which is the incite running limo linux |
| 09:56.15 | randomblame | if that ever happens I'll be set |
| 09:56.53 | randomblame | maybe, lg code is garbage, and it's an older kernel |
| 09:56.56 | randomblame | but it will be helpful |
| 09:57.28 | randomblame | anyways it's time for bed |
| 09:57.30 | randomblame | ttyl |
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| 11:24.35 | Tigerzen | Kholk re |
| 11:24.39 | Tigerzen | Dcordes hi |
| 11:25.09 | Tigerzen | Wrong way dcordes i can use initrd.gz just zImage doesnt work |
| 11:25.54 | dcordes | Tigerzen, wrong way? |
| 11:25.56 | dcordes | hi |
| 11:26.13 | Tigerzen | Oh sorry |
| 11:26.23 | Tigerzen | I dont understand your last patch |
| 11:26.31 | Tigerzen | Why 128 ? |
| 11:27.35 | Tigerzen | mem=128M what change her ? |
| 11:28.07 | Tigerzen | Just for information now SDHC and SD boot right without initrd ;) |
| 11:29.01 | kholk | guys, for me the latest kernel doesn't work. |
| 11:29.38 | Tigerzen | You try just your Image i upload mine |
| 11:30.00 | kholk | yes please |
| 11:30.16 | kholk | maybe there's something wrong with my toolchain |
| 11:30.27 | Tigerzen | possible |
| 11:30.37 | kholk | what toolchain are u using? |
| 11:30.57 | Tigerzen | simple and fast my thread |
| 11:31.02 | kholk | link? :) |
| 11:31.17 | Tigerzen | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=631216 |
| 11:31.26 | kholk | ty :) |
| 11:31.55 | kholk | arm-2008q1-126-arm-none-linux-gnueabi-i686-pc-linux-gnu.tar.bz2 |
| 11:31.57 | kholk | same toolchain |
| 11:32.04 | kholk | lol |
| 11:32.06 | kholk | WTF.. |
| 11:32.07 | kholk | lol |
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| 11:32.17 | Tigerzen | looks here |
| 11:32.26 | Tigerzen | http://git.linuxtogo.org/?p=groups/mobile-linux/kernel.git;a=blob;f=default-htcleo.txt;h=e6f550f02da256438fa20e9adfd51f4de1df9cbe;hb=e6f550f02da256438fa20e9adfd51f4de1df9cbe |
| 11:32.39 | kholk | lol |
| 11:32.41 | dcordes | Tigerzen, I didn't patch anything about 128M |
| 11:32.43 | kholk | same txt :D |
| 11:32.53 | kholk | but not for the gz initrd |
| 11:32.53 | kholk | lol |
| 11:32.59 | Tigerzen | brb eat sorry |
| 11:33.05 | kholk | and I don't know if you know |
| 11:33.11 | kholk | that ramsize is ignored |
| 11:33.12 | Tigerzen | What about then mem=128M |
| 11:33.19 | kholk | kernel parameter |
| 11:33.25 | dcordes | is confused |
| 11:33.33 | Tigerzen | brb |
| 11:33.41 | Tigerzen | http://rapidshare.com/files/366659690/Image.html |
| 11:33.46 | dcordes | haha |
| 11:33.49 | kholk | k ty |
| 11:34.01 | kholk | is more confused than dcordes |
| 11:34.02 | dcordes | Tigerzen, don't get what you not understand |
| 11:34.15 | kholk | neither me |
| 11:34.15 | kholk | lol |
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| 11:34.26 | kholk | it's all normal in this txt |
| 11:35.02 | kholk | dcordes, have you tried a kernel with the latest changes? |
| 11:37.03 | dcordes | kholk, yes |
| 11:38.01 | kholk | and it boots for you? |
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| 11:40.14 | kholk | it seems that my toolchain is bad |
| 11:40.19 | kholk | but I don't understand why |
| 11:40.30 | kholk | it's the same that Tigerzen uses |
| 11:40.34 | dcordes | check wiki for toolchain |
| 11:40.40 | dcordes | has link to working one |
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| 11:40.45 | kholk | umh |
| 11:40.48 | kholk | okay.. |
| 11:41.24 | kholk | lol |
| 11:41.33 | kholk | in the wiki there's mentioned 2008q3 |
| 11:41.37 | kholk | and I'm using 2008q1 |
| 11:41.39 | kholk | maybe it's for this |
| 11:41.40 | kholk | lol |
| 11:41.49 | kholk | but it's strange because old kernels are working |
| 11:41.51 | kholk | new ones not |
| 11:41.51 | kholk | lol |
| 11:45.14 | dcordes | then it's not the toolchain |
| 11:45.27 | dcordes | what exactly do you mean by new kernel doesn't work? |
| 11:45.53 | dcordes | freezs in haret? |
| 11:46.44 | Tigerzen | git pull --rebase git reset --hard |
| 11:47.19 | Tigerzen | try then with 2008q3 |
| 11:47.26 | Tigerzen | what about from my image works ? |
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| 11:48.08 | Tigerzen | he mean last compile kernel |
| 11:48.23 | Tigerzen | stop on progress bar |
| 11:48.31 | Tigerzen | or message N |
| 11:48.32 | Tigerzen | ? |
| 11:49.00 | Tigerzen | dcordes i talk about that http://git.linuxtogo.org/?p=groups/mobile-linux/kernel.git;a=blobdiff;f=default-htcleo.txt;h=e6f550f02da256438fa20e9adfd51f4de1df9cbe;hp=89b766aaa942bdb884b9f70b2e062766a9c5c3c7;hb=e32a69bab4e49281b420095ee4d3e52e8e9462bf;hpb=b33bffc8a0c38007188dbc9d58769751fc832a29 |
| 11:49.20 | kholk | yes freeze in haret |
| 11:49.36 | kholk | and Tigerzen, your image works |
| 11:51.54 | dcordes | Tigerzen, yes, what about it? |
| 11:52.40 | Tigerzen | ok then is your toolchain 2008q1 try q3 |
| 11:53.06 | Tigerzen | you put mem=128M #problems using full mem ? |
| 11:53.22 | tpruvot | why not last one... 2009q3 ? |
| 11:53.51 | dcordes | tpruvot, for me, 2009q3 won't build leo kernel |
| 11:54.05 | tpruvot | gcc version problem ? |
| 11:54.26 | dcordes | I have no idea. I got some build errors. can't recall |
| 11:54.44 | Tigerzen | 2009q3 works with openmbedded |
| 11:55.17 | tpruvot | yea and with last kernels.... in fact, that compile ;) |
| 11:55.25 | tpruvot | after, i dont know |
| 11:56.31 | tpruvot | but now :) ive 4 leds to debug lol :) will try the 2.6.34-rc1 now ... |
| 12:03.17 | kholk | I'm bored of these things, kernel not working for the third time |
| 12:03.23 | kholk | I'll go on |
| 12:03.26 | kholk | rm -rf kernel |
| 12:03.27 | kholk | lol |
| 12:03.34 | kholk | and redownload |
| 12:04.00 | tpruvot | git rebase |
| 12:04.07 | kholk | tried |
| 12:04.12 | kholk | but now I've removed all |
| 12:04.52 | kholk | and redownload in progress :) |
| 12:04.52 | tpruvot | and a make clean before |
| 12:04.53 | Tigerzen | i do just git reset --hard |
| 12:05.07 | Tigerzen | make mrproper |
| 12:05.21 | tpruvot | argh always same problem... kernel crc is ok, initrd too.... but nothing more... |
| 12:05.51 | kholk | yes I ever make a clean before building |
| 12:05.53 | kholk | anyway |
| 12:05.57 | Tigerzen | lol |
| 12:05.59 | kholk | I'm cloning |
| 12:06.08 | kholk | I have to switch to qsd8k kernel |
| 12:06.10 | kholk | and rebuild |
| 12:06.17 | Tigerzen | good idea for test |
| 12:06.27 | kholk | heh, it's the last hope :) |
| 12:06.31 | Tigerzen | which many clone ? |
| 12:06.33 | Tigerzen | lol |
| 12:06.36 | kholk | lol |
| 12:06.41 | kholk | I was meaning |
| 12:06.42 | kholk | git clone |
| 12:06.43 | kholk | lol |
| 12:06.48 | tpruvot | :) |
| 12:07.22 | kholk | ouh, I forgot that it takes forever to downlo |
| 12:07.25 | kholk | download* |
| 12:07.28 | tpruvot | maybe a tar -cxf / tar -xf could be nice for you :) |
| 12:07.29 | kholk | :° |
| 12:07.37 | tpruvot | could be faster ;) |
| 12:07.47 | tpruvot | cf |
| 12:07.49 | kholk | yes, but if I download a snapshot |
| 12:07.52 | kholk | I can't update with git |
| 12:07.58 | kholk | so, git rules |
| 12:08.24 | Tigerzen | why you complicated your life |
| 12:08.33 | tpruvot | always better than svn :p |
| 12:08.43 | kholk | tigerzen: what do u mean? |
| 12:09.06 | tpruvot | git diff... |
| 12:09.18 | kholk | lol, I ever use git pull |
| 12:09.23 | kholk | for updating |
| 12:09.42 | kholk | but anyway |
| 12:09.56 | kholk | I don't understand what he means with life complicated |
| 12:10.08 | kholk | because using git is the only option for mantaining an autobuild server |
| 12:10.15 | kholk | lol |
| 12:10.29 | tpruvot | git-branch alone to see branches |
| 12:10.29 | tpruvot | "git checkout branch" then |
| 12:10.30 | kholk | yes I know, but I already know the branch name |
| 12:10.47 | kholk | htc-qsd8k-2.6.29 |
| 12:10.47 | kholk | :) |
| 12:10.52 | tpruvot | not really in doc the git-branch alone |
| 12:11.00 | kholk | :) |
| 12:11.04 | tpruvot | "git branch" show locals only |
| 12:11.13 | kholk | yes I know |
| 12:11.26 | Cass_VM | so has anyone successfully got usbnet up on the pc side yet with leo ? |
| 12:11.38 | kholk | Cass_VM: no :P |
| 12:11.45 | Cass_VM | heh thanks :D |
| 12:11.48 | Tigerzen | not for now i dont try initrd |
| 12:11.49 | kholk | or, at least, not me :D |
| 12:12.10 | kholk | Tigerzen: if you want to try you have to disable mass storage function |
| 12:12.12 | kholk | in kernel |
| 12:12.15 | Cass_VM | yeah i figured, i have the same issues today as i did on ffri |
| 12:12.30 | Cass_VM | no ipv6, no mass storage and ehci in kernel |
| 12:12.42 | Cass_VM | still fails .. incorrect mdlm descriptors |
| 12:12.42 | kholk | EHCI? |
| 12:12.56 | kholk | lol. |
| 12:13.04 | Cass_VM | yewah Markinus asked on Fri that we add this tot he .config |
| 12:13.14 | Tigerzen | got a root ? |
| 12:13.26 | Cass_VM | ? |
| 12:13.34 | Tigerzen | can i got ssh ? |
| 12:13.46 | kholk | Tigerzen: if you can set up your usb network on PC side |
| 12:13.47 | Cass_VM | i got no ssh as i have no usbnet yet |
| 12:13.52 | kholk | ...yes, you can |
| 12:13.57 | Cass_VM | ? |
| 12:13.58 | Tigerzen | lol |
| 12:14.01 | kholk | if you haven't got an initrd with SSH I can build one for you |
| 12:14.08 | kholk | but first get usbnet to work |
| 12:14.09 | kholk | lol |
| 12:14.10 | Cass_VM | ohh but its no use is it ? |
| 12:14.12 | Tigerzen | your are sweet boy |
| 12:14.23 | kholk | hahah :) |
| 12:14.34 | kholk | Cass_VM: not really.... |
| 12:14.38 | Tigerzen | kholk are you sure because its verry interessting |
| 12:14.41 | Cass_VM | heh i dont care then |
| 12:14.54 | kholk | Tigerzen: it's only a matter of compiling it and putting it into initrd |
| 12:14.55 | Cass_VM | i can build one but ill wait until i have ssh over net to use it |
| 12:14.57 | kholk | it's really simple to do |
| 12:15.04 | kholk | IF you can have usbnet working |
| 12:15.05 | kholk | :) |
| 12:15.26 | kholk | it's useless to have benzine if you don't have an use for it.... |
| 12:15.29 | kholk | :D |
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| 12:15.39 | Tigerzen | i use gasoil |
| 12:15.44 | kholk | details. |
| 12:15.45 | kholk | :P |
| 12:16.03 | Tiddo | lol @ gasoline |
| 12:16.05 | Tiddo | hi guys |
| 12:16.08 | Tiddo | hi tiggz |
| 12:16.13 | Tigerzen | yeah gasoil in french ;) |
| 12:16.17 | Tiddo | lol |
| 12:16.56 | Tiddo | netripper pong ... |
| 12:17.17 | Tiddo | do u have anything for me to test !? |
| 12:18.35 | kholk | goin' to eat |
| 12:18.47 | kholk | away 30mins - 1hr |
| 12:20.16 | Tiddo | kholk |
| 12:20.16 | Tiddo | ur new image ... |
| 12:20.16 | Tiddo | still hangs at ... |
| 12:21.10 | Tiddo | dcordes ... did the new image worked for u ? any progress ! |
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| 13:12.47 | Tigerzen | kholk try compile source e2fsck with toolchain arm |
| 13:13.33 | kholk | Tigerzen: it's equal, I'm too lazy to do that.. :P |
| 13:13.41 | kholk | I've disabled fsck |
| 13:13.41 | kholk | :P |
| 13:13.45 | kholk | it's the same :D |
| 13:13.52 | kholk | but it seems to hang |
| 13:16.32 | Tigerzen | Yes you need disable to sleep command and dosfsck |
| 13:16.45 | kholk | mmh |
| 13:16.46 | kholk | sleep.. |
| 13:16.48 | kholk | right |
| 13:17.05 | Tigerzen | when i compile with toolachain arm e2scfk works |
| 13:17.11 | Tigerzen | with some other error |
| 13:17.15 | Tigerzen | not hangs |
| 13:17.42 | kholk | good to know, we can "cook" it into initrd :) |
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| 13:18.03 | Tigerzen | but sleep or mount we need to compile busybox |
| 13:18.15 | Tigerzen | i try compile busybox brb |
| 13:18.34 | kholk | mount works |
| 13:18.37 | kholk | ^^ |
| 13:18.40 | Tigerzen | yes on initrd |
| 13:18.47 | Tigerzen | not whitout initrd |
| 13:18.52 | kholk | heh |
| 13:18.54 | Tigerzen | strange hein |
| 13:18.58 | kholk | but we HAVE to use initrd |
| 13:19.05 | Tigerzen | not realy |
| 13:19.10 | kholk | yes not really |
| 13:19.12 | kholk | but |
| 13:19.28 | kholk | it's done this way for diamond,kaiser,vogue,raphael,blackstone etc |
| 13:19.30 | Tigerzen | but why its work on intrd and not direct |
| 13:19.37 | kholk | I don't see why do we have to do something different for now.. |
| 13:19.37 | kholk | :P |
| 13:19.43 | kholk | initrd is the best way to work with |
| 13:19.48 | Tigerzen | because more fast ext part |
| 13:19.56 | kholk | because we're sure to not go into other errors |
| 13:19.58 | kholk | yes you're right |
| 13:20.04 | kholk | it's best to boot from ext |
| 13:20.06 | kholk | but |
| 13:20.24 | kholk | for now that we haven't got a full working THING |
| 13:20.35 | Tigerzen | tell me your experience |
| 13:20.38 | kholk | it's best to pass through compatibility "modes" |
| 13:20.46 | kholk | I'm tryin' to boot fundroid |
| 13:20.58 | kholk | just to see if our msm_fb can handle some commands |
| 13:21.16 | kholk | if it works, it's good |
| 13:21.25 | kholk | and I don't know if you've seen |
| 13:21.46 | kholk | but markinus said that we don't have any module for our digitizer |
| 13:22.22 | Tigerzen | tell me, if i try wing or other dirtro on HTC vogue or another ther's same problem segmentation fault or hangs or its just Leo problem ? |
| 13:22.25 | kholk | and if we don't have any driver or any datasheet for our digitizer it's impossible to develop from scratch a module for making our digitizer to work |
| 13:22.35 | kholk | it's just a Leo problem |
| 13:22.35 | Markinus | kholk: right |
| 13:22.42 | Tigerzen | ok |
| 13:22.55 | Tigerzen | Then its on kernel ? |
| 13:23.03 | Markinus | Tigerzen: I think yes |
| 13:23.05 | kholk | probably yes |
| 13:23.13 | Markinus | Tigerzen: But it's hard fo find |
| 13:23.15 | kholk | remember that we've got a really advanced CPU |
| 13:23.21 | Tigerzen | no way to works to many time to ported like's wing or other |
| 13:23.28 | Markinus | Tigerzen: but it's in nexus too |
| 13:23.30 | kholk | and that segfaults are maybe because of new arm instructions |
| 13:23.33 | kholk | not being interpreted well |
| 13:24.03 | Tigerzen | well need ported with new toolchain and compile ? |
| 13:24.18 | kholk | hey, my Leo is... |
| 13:24.24 | kholk | "Creating a new data store" |
| 13:24.29 | kholk | and |
| 13:24.39 | Tigerzen | yes strange some time works |
| 13:24.40 | kholk | dd: writing /sdcard/data.img : No space left on device |
| 13:24.43 | kholk | and it's true :D |
| 13:24.51 | kholk | ouh, it can work. |
| 13:24.59 | Tigerzen | yes |
| 13:25.18 | kholk | heh, but we need something for making our panel to work |
| 13:25.20 | Tigerzen | im not sure there's compile arm problem, i suspected some things hangs some time |
| 13:25.34 | kholk | my standard phrase is being "damn HTC" for like 4 months |
| 13:25.35 | kholk | lol |
| 13:25.37 | Tigerzen | same experience kholk |
| 13:25.47 | kholk | never said "damn HTC" when I had the Diamond |
| 13:25.47 | kholk | lol |
| 13:26.23 | kholk | Tigerzen: I only have to delete all my damn partitions |
| 13:26.28 | kholk | and allocate more space on vfat |
| 13:26.28 | Tigerzen | MAybe supersonic can make's helps faster |
| 13:26.34 | kholk | Tigerzen: maybe not |
| 13:26.38 | kholk | or maybe yes. |
| 13:26.47 | kholk | Markinus said that supersonic has got an AMOLED display |
| 13:26.49 | Tigerzen | kholk yes right it told you dat.img take 256mo |
| 13:26.59 | kholk | and I was knewing that it has got an LCD |
| 13:27.02 | kholk | but the point is |
| 13:27.11 | kholk | it has possibly got the same touch panel of Leo |
| 13:27.14 | kholk | but possibly not |
| 13:27.15 | Tigerzen | how many space you format on it ? |
| 13:27.21 | kholk | 350megs |
| 13:27.28 | kholk | *285megs |
| 13:27.28 | kholk | :P |
| 13:27.48 | Tigerzen | its worked too me once time to makes data.img |
| 13:28.25 | Markinus | kholk: but we need so much other stuff bevor we need TS . . . . we have time with this |
| 13:28.44 | kholk | yes I know Markinus |
| 13:29.05 | kholk | but testing these things will only help with some other things.. :P |
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| 13:29.25 | Tigerzen | yes likes SDHC works now thanks Markinus |
| 13:29.25 | kholk | ouh I have to go |
| 13:29.29 | kholk | I'll be here in 30 mins or so |
| 13:29.33 | kholk | brb |
| 13:29.41 | Tigerzen | i need somebody to help me put on wall papier |
| 13:30.01 | Markinus | kholk: testing is ever good! :) |
| 13:30.15 | Tigerzen | kholk fandroid links |
| 13:30.27 | Markinus | Tigerzen: nice that it work now. An gz initrd's too |
| 13:30.48 | Tigerzen | yes gz its works 1weeks before :p |
| 13:31.42 | Markinus | Tigerzen: I dodn't know who said not :) |
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| 13:34.06 | gauner1986 | hi all |
| 13:34.18 | Tigerzen | gauner hi |
| 13:34.29 | Tigerzen | gauner i supose you know now SDHC works :p |
| 13:34.39 | Tigerzen | lol |
| 13:34.44 | gauner1986 | Tigerzen: always did for me ;) |
| 13:35.13 | gauner1986 | initrd.gz also works now |
| 13:35.24 | gauner1986 | but not zImage |
| 13:35.28 | Tigerzen | ok |
| 13:35.42 | Tigerzen | realy i dont give cheat about Z |
| 13:35.51 | gauner1986 | me too |
| 13:35.52 | gauner1986 | ^^ |
| 13:35.54 | Tigerzen | ^^ |
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| 13:38.48 | gauner1986 | so.. thats it for now.. :) |
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| 13:52.15 | kholk | hi gauner :) |
| 13:52.25 | gauner1986 | hi kholk |
| 13:52.41 | kholk | I'm going to boot android, are u happy? :P |
| 13:53.12 | gauner1986 | if you tell me it boots up to full extend, then i am |
| 13:53.14 | gauner1986 | :P |
| 13:53.48 | kholk | heh! |
| 13:54.05 | kholk | I'm at the point where happens the miracle of the creation of data.img |
| 13:54.23 | kholk | but I haven't got space on my fat partition |
| 13:54.38 | kholk | so I'm making a backup |
| 13:54.40 | kholk | and repartitioning |
| 13:54.45 | kholk | but anyway |
| 13:54.52 | kholk | we don't have a digitizer driver |
| 13:55.05 | kholk | so we won't be happily masturbating android with our fingers.. |
| 13:55.05 | kholk | XD |
| 13:55.23 | gauner1986 | digitizer? |
| 13:55.30 | kholk | touchscreen |
| 13:55.40 | kholk | I'm saying digitizer because |
| 13:55.53 | kholk | the touchscreen is composed by an LCD module and a digitizer module |
| 13:55.59 | kholk | we've got a driver for the LCD |
| 13:56.02 | kholk | but not for the digitizer |
| 13:56.10 | kholk | that is what is recognizing our finger |
| 13:56.33 | kholk | and... there is a good news and a bad one |
| 13:56.40 | kholk | which one do you prefer to know for first? |
| 13:56.41 | kholk | :P |
| 13:56.55 | gauner1986 | good of course |
| 13:56.58 | kholk | :P |
| 13:57.02 | kholk | well |
| 13:57.33 | kholk | the good is that there is a possibility that the HTC Supersonic has got the same digitizer |
| 13:58.08 | kholk | the bad is that we don't have a datasheet for our digitizer and neither a driver, so if the supersonic hasn't got the same and we won't find any datasheet, it'll be impossible to write a driver from scratch |
| 13:59.04 | gauner1986 | arent there a bunch of other phones that have the same hardware atm? ^^ |
| 13:59.20 | kholk | well. |
| 13:59.33 | kholk | the nexus one (and the desire, too) has got the same chipset |
| 13:59.44 | kholk | but other hardware is differing |
| 13:59.51 | kholk | ....like the digitizer |
| 14:00.44 | kholk | the nexus one for example has got a synaptics I2C |
| 14:01.01 | kholk | for controlling the digitizer |
| 14:01.13 | kholk | and the Leo differs |
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| 14:02.23 | kholk | so even if I can boot android |
| 14:02.25 | kholk | it's useless.. |
| 14:02.31 | gauner1986 | no |
| 14:02.39 | gauner1986 | i can show it off to my friends and they say |
| 14:02.41 | gauner1986 | weeeeey |
| 14:02.44 | kholk | hahahahah :D |
| 14:02.45 | gauner1986 | :P |
| 14:02.49 | kholk | and then they will want to play with it |
| 14:02.51 | kholk | and you'll say |
| 14:02.57 | kholk | "erm... touchscreen doesn't work" |
| 14:02.58 | kholk | :P |
| 14:03.02 | gauner1986 | :P |
| 14:03.14 | kholk | "but you can still see that it's cool." |
| 14:03.15 | kholk | XD |
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| 14:07.31 | gauner1986 | at least the screen isnt mounted upside down like on kovsky |
| 14:07.57 | kholk | hahah :) |
| 14:08.41 | kholk | less problems :) |
| 14:08.54 | kholk | but if we don't solve the main problem (digitizer) |
| 14:08.59 | kholk | it's still useless :p |
| 14:09.59 | kholk | creating data store... |
| 14:10.19 | Tigerzen | kholk i boot android 2 weeks before whats a difference for now ? |
| 14:11.14 | kholk | what? lol |
| 14:11.27 | kholk | I got segmentation fault at storage format |
| 14:11.34 | kholk | damn :\ |
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| 14:11.44 | Tigerzen | i makings initrd 2weeks ago to boot angstrom android |
| 14:11.55 | kholk | yes but it didn't boot |
| 14:12.00 | kholk | or, well, showed a blank screen |
| 14:12.01 | kholk | :) |
| 14:12.07 | Tigerzen | and now ? |
| 14:12.15 | kholk | now I've got segmentation fault |
| 14:12.22 | kholk | wait a second I'm seeing where :) |
| 14:12.23 | gauner1986 | uuuh |
| 14:12.27 | gauner1986 | thats so much better |
| 14:12.29 | Tigerzen | put echo |
| 14:12.30 | gauner1986 | :P |
| 14:12.42 | kholk | yes, infact it's what I want to do |
| 14:12.48 | kholk | but I think that the segfault is at format |
| 14:13.21 | AstainHellbring | morning |
| 14:14.02 | Tigerzen | links for fandroid please |
| 14:14.25 | kholk | uhm |
| 14:14.39 | kholk | the initrd is being executed correctly |
| 14:14.56 | kholk | there's an echo "Switching to rootfs..." at the end of the init |
| 14:15.06 | kholk | and it has said it |
| 14:15.11 | kholk | moreover |
| 14:15.24 | kholk | I can see "Rootfs loaded." |
| 14:15.28 | kholk | so switch_root works |
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| 14:16.57 | gauner1986 | for me too |
| 14:16.59 | gauner1986 | :) |
| 14:17.03 | kholk | I can't find where are these commands executed |
| 14:17.17 | kholk | I mean the ones after the init of initrd |
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| 14:17.59 | kholk | and where it creates the data store file |
| 14:18.28 | gauner1986 | but i'm doing it with an ext2 partition on sd anyway |
| 14:19.00 | kholk | it's in rootfs.img |
| 14:19.05 | kholk | anyone knows how to extract it? |
| 14:19.12 | kholk | (and, of course, recreate it) |
| 14:19.19 | gauner1986 | mount -o loop rootfs.img /bla |
| 14:19.25 | gauner1986 | then copy everything |
| 14:19.47 | gauner1986 | recreating it works with dd |
| 14:19.52 | gauner1986 | creating a file with zeroes |
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| 14:19.56 | gauner1986 | then mount it |
| 14:19.59 | gauner1986 | and format it |
| 14:20.30 | kholk | uhm |
| 14:20.44 | kholk | but I can still modify files in it |
| 14:20.47 | kholk | while mounted |
| 14:20.52 | kholk | and then unmount |
| 14:20.53 | kholk | lol |
| 14:20.55 | kholk | much simpler |
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| 14:21.07 | gauner1986 | then it's a writable fs |
| 14:21.08 | gauner1986 | ^^ |
| 14:21.32 | kholk | if you can read you can write ..I think.. |
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| 14:23.18 | AstainHellbring | hey there maejrep |
| 14:23.34 | kholk | oh well |
| 14:23.57 | kholk | I can skip what gives segfault! |
| 14:25.51 | AstainHellbring | stupid netsplits |
| 14:30.40 | kholk | lol |
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| 14:35.15 | Tigerzen | ther's other things kholk if you works with distro boot on ext part then you can there dmessg |
| 14:36.16 | kholk | ...failed to format the storage |
| 14:36.19 | gauner1986 | kholk: do you have a kitchen from a pre tmo us rom? |
| 14:36.19 | kholk | WTF damn |
| 14:36.32 | kholk | no gauner.. |
| 14:37.14 | gauner1986 | kholk: i want to test if exchanging audiopara.acdb from the windows dir helps the voice quality problems |
| 14:37.34 | kholk | I don't think so.. |
| 14:37.39 | kholk | anyway |
| 14:38.01 | kholk | it seems that I have to compile e2fsck and mkfs.ext2 for arm |
| 14:38.02 | kholk | lol |
| 14:38.06 | kholk | or well |
| 14:38.13 | gauner1986 | kholk: or just use ext3 ^^ |
| 14:38.16 | kholk | I have to recompile the entire rootfs.img for arm |
| 14:38.40 | kholk | ext3.. |
| 14:38.48 | kholk | but after I'll have problems with files permissions |
| 14:39.53 | Tigerzen | no you can use wing or this one http://balsat.hopto.org/builds/android/ no nedd initrd just fat32 and ext2 tar -xzvf |
| 14:40.14 | kholk | umh okay |
| 14:40.16 | Tigerzen | root |
| 14:41.58 | kholk | I'll first try with recompiled e2fsprogs |
| 14:42.05 | kholk | then android on ext |
| 14:42.16 | Tigerzen | i have home works put paper on wall brb |
| 14:42.20 | kholk | okay |
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| 14:53.46 | Tigerzen | i thinks the problem about e2fsck and other like mount on ext maybe writh doesnt not works |
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| 14:57.26 | Tigerzen | proble data.img too thinks wright problem on sd |
| 14:58.17 | Tigerzen | you can try with litle initrd like script write something on sd |
| 14:58.23 | Tigerzen | and see |
| 14:58.30 | Tigerzen | create folder ;) |
| 14:58.58 | Tigerzen | mount /dev/mmcblk0p2 /sdcard |
| 14:59.09 | Tigerzen | mkdir test /sdcard |
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| 15:07.57 | kholk | I'm booting from ext3 |
| 15:08.02 | kholk | root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 init=/init right? |
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| 15:08.22 | kholk | my minds is starting to be tired |
| 15:08.23 | kholk | :P |
| 15:08.25 | kholk | mind* |
| 15:08.34 | Tigerzen | yes if init is in /init some time its /sbin/init |
| 15:08.46 | kholk | yes I know |
| 15:08.50 | Tigerzen | k |
| 15:08.56 | kholk | but in / there is an init |
| 15:09.02 | kholk | so i think that I have to use this |
| 15:09.04 | kholk | anyway |
| 15:09.04 | Tigerzen | can try create folder on ext3 ? |
| 15:09.16 | kholk | okay |
| 15:09.28 | kholk | let me make a test or two and I'll try :D |
| 15:09.32 | Tigerzen | and we know if wright works |
| 15:09.46 | kholk | wright? huh? |
| 15:09.46 | Tigerzen | yes i can help you asual but ive got works home |
| 15:09.51 | Tigerzen | write |
| 15:09.54 | kholk | huh! :P |
| 15:13.56 | kholk | hanging at "Rootfs loaded." |
| 15:14.01 | kholk | is it the same for u? |
| 15:15.00 | Tigerzen | test |
| 15:15.04 | Tigerzen | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:15.17 | Tigerzen | hangs here i thinks |
| 15:15.46 | Tigerzen | or /bin/mount | grep mtd her |
| 15:15.56 | Tigerzen | echo |
| 15:16.04 | kholk | it's so strange |
| 15:16.08 | Tigerzen | yes |
| 15:16.16 | kholk | using the squashfs it doesn't hang here |
| 15:16.19 | tpruvot | is it possible to set same mmu map from windows in a kernel config ? |
| 15:16.35 | Tigerzen | i dont know |
| 15:16.43 | tpruvot | to keep all already initialized stuff |
| 15:17.16 | Tigerzen | maybe some command need some interupted not good way on Leo |
| 15:17.27 | kholk | mmh |
| 15:17.27 | Tigerzen | memory |
| 15:17.36 | Tigerzen | you mean what i say |
| 15:17.36 | tpruvot | map |
| 15:18.03 | Tigerzen | Markinus can explain that |
| 15:18.52 | tpruvot | yea... because many SoC have predefined configs... |
| 15:19.17 | tpruvot | and could be nice to keep same map in winmo and linux.... |
| 15:19.47 | Tigerzen | brb need put off power home ;) |
| 15:19.53 | tpruvot | i mean, bloc sizes |
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| 15:20.13 | tpruvot | yea... need to sleep too |
| 15:20.28 | tpruvot | last kernel compile try and sleep |
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| 15:31.14 | Tigerzen | News |
| 15:32.19 | Tigerzen | oh im in french lol just pull down power cause i put paper wall |
| 15:38.54 | Tigerzen | udev dcordes ive got too, i thinks here probrlem write right on sd... |
| 15:45.14 | kholk | I've created a new rootfs |
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| 15:45.27 | kholk | let's see how it'll go :) |
| 15:47.17 | Tigerzen | im on wait |
| 15:47.23 | kholk | me too :D |
| 15:47.43 | kholk | the rear of my Leo gets very hot while doing these tasks |
| 15:47.44 | kholk | lol |
| 15:48.02 | kholk | seems hanged |
| 15:48.38 | Tigerzen | blinking ? |
| 15:48.39 | kholk | definitely hanged |
| 15:48.40 | kholk | yes |
| 15:48.42 | kholk | blinking |
| 15:48.48 | Tigerzen | crusor stop ? |
| 15:48.54 | Tigerzen | cursor |
| 15:48.55 | kholk | no, no, it's blinking |
| 15:49.00 | kholk | but for too much time |
| 15:49.01 | Tigerzen | then not hangs |
| 15:49.16 | Tigerzen | just speaking for many language with Leo |
| 15:49.23 | kholk | yes but it seems that he can't load rootfs |
| 15:49.35 | Tigerzen | they have too difficult too undersatnd |
| 15:49.44 | Tigerzen | joke |
| 15:49.48 | kholk | I'll say my standard phrase |
| 15:49.50 | kholk | DAMN HTC |
| 15:50.00 | kholk | okay, now I'm officially bored |
| 15:50.09 | Tigerzen | life its diffuclt |
| 15:50.12 | kholk | hahah :D |
| 15:50.49 | Tigerzen | i read irclog and c now some command works |
| 15:51.01 | Tigerzen | then its not distro problem but kernel |
| 15:51.22 | kholk | yes |
| 15:51.30 | kholk | it's for this that I'm bored |
| 15:51.35 | Tigerzen | my way thinks, we can do much test but some way got stop hangs because problem its on hard code |
| 15:51.57 | Tigerzen | yes bored |
| 15:52.11 | Tigerzen | Take a kleenex |
| 15:52.12 | kholk | SIM card in my Leo, HTC Sense started |
| 15:52.21 | kholk | screen shut down |
| 15:52.32 | kholk | Shutting down kholk's mind..... |
| 15:52.40 | Tigerzen | nice |
| 15:52.46 | Tigerzen | c u |
| 15:52.55 | Tigerzen | maybe tonight more news |
| 15:53.07 | kholk | Kernel panic: you have to do other things. You can't shutdown yourself now. |
| 15:53.13 | Tigerzen | lol |
| 15:53.29 | kholk | okay, but I won't execute any other leo-linux commands.. |
| 15:53.29 | kholk | :P |
| 15:53.44 | Tigerzen | yeah nice idea did you test make dir |
| 15:53.45 | Tigerzen | ? |
| 15:54.00 | kholk | no, but I'm tired of seeing the black screen of the linux kernel |
| 15:54.03 | kholk | really |
| 15:54.03 | kholk | :P |
| 15:54.15 | Tigerzen | i know that feel |
| 15:54.24 | kholk | I'm on leo-linux for 7 hours |
| 15:54.32 | kholk | I started at 9:00AM |
| 15:54.47 | kholk | so, 8hrs |
| 15:54.47 | kholk | :P |
| 15:54.54 | kholk | now it's time to do other things.. |
| 15:54.55 | Tigerzen | germain |
| 15:54.55 | kholk | :P |
| 15:54.56 | Tigerzen | ? |
| 15:55.01 | kholk | italian |
| 15:55.06 | Tigerzen | ok |
| 15:55.09 | kholk | :P |
| 15:55.15 | gauner1986 | other things? |
| 15:55.20 | gauner1986 | there are other things? |
| 15:55.22 | gauner1986 | :P |
| 15:55.29 | kholk | yes, like calling my girlfriend :P |
| 15:55.37 | Tigerzen | sure ? |
| 15:55.44 | Tigerzen | wich girlfriends ? |
| 15:55.58 | kholk | I know that this implies shutting down my PC and goin' out XD |
| 15:56.04 | kholk | but it's a risk that I have to take! |
| 15:56.04 | kholk | :P |
| 15:56.14 | Tigerzen | yes it be workings now !!!!!!!!! |
| 15:56.22 | kholk | or well, I could start singing on my electric guitar |
| 15:56.24 | gauner1986 | whats working? ^^ |
| 15:56.24 | kholk | :P |
| 15:56.31 | Tigerzen | it should !!!!!!!!! |
| 15:56.37 | kholk | kholkOS is working! |
| 15:56.37 | kholk | XD |
| 15:56.59 | Tigerzen | ok i do tonight test about write on sd |
| 15:57.15 | kholk | heh, good luck! |
| 15:57.15 | kholk | :P |
| 15:57.34 | kholk | my girlfriend doesn't answer -.- |
| 15:57.35 | Tigerzen | take's 1 min just need to be pessimisst |
| 15:57.39 | kholk | I'm going into timeout |
| 15:57.39 | kholk | XD |
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| 15:58.03 | Tigerzen | root=/out/kholk sleep=2550 |
| 15:58.10 | kholk | *_* |
| 15:58.26 | Tigerzen | reboot |
| 15:58.31 | kholk | oh yes, send me an init 0 *_* |
| 15:58.34 | kholk | XD |
| 15:58.44 | Tigerzen | ./test |
| 15:58.47 | kholk | halt me °_° |
| 15:58.54 | Tigerzen | wich command in irc im roockie user irc |
| 15:58.55 | kholk | I'm goin' crazy XD |
| 15:59.04 | kholk | is now crazy °_° |
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| 16:02.01 | kholk | cya! |
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| 16:14.42 | Tigerzen1 | What's news gauner |
| 16:18.51 | gauner1986 | Tigerzen: no news on my side.. doing university stuff currently |
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| 17:05.08 | Tigerzen1 | Ok i found the problem !!! |
| 17:05.27 | Tigerzen1 | There's problem with type partition mounted |
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| 17:10.40 | Tigerzen1 | Because its differente message when u use ext2 or ext3 |
| 17:11.07 | Tigerzen1 | I mean different hangs |
| 17:12.49 | Tigerzen1 | Im doing test on SDHC now go to SD |
| 17:12.58 | Tigerzen1 | To see if same... |
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| 17:32.01 | chamonix | hey guys |
| 17:33.31 | Tigerzen1 | hi |
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| 17:42.18 | gauner1986 | Tigerzen: what problem do you mean? |
| 17:46.01 | Tigerzen1 | when you use ext2 he hangs with mount command but in ext3 mount works |
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| 17:46.35 | Tigerzen1 | now i try find sysfs problem there's maybe right user mount or udev problem |
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| 18:12.10 | Hoochster | afternoon and evening people |
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| 18:17.37 | Tigerzen1 | mount works but he dont like type option |
| 18:17.47 | Tigerzen1 | mount -t not reponding |
| 18:17.54 | Tigerzen1 | respond |
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| 18:19.42 | gauner1986 | Tigerzen1: why care about that? |
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| 18:20.02 | gauner1986 | Tigerzen1: think there are problems, which are more important |
| 18:20.29 | gauner1986 | Tigerzen1: like the sleep crash problem.. or finding out where in the boot process it hangs now |
| 18:20.48 | Tigerzen1 | now if i want many time then message about oc/sys/kernel/hung_task_timeout_secs |
| 18:21.07 | Tigerzen1 | if i wait sorry |
| 18:21.14 | Tigerzen1 | proc/sys... |
| 18:21.52 | Tigerzen1 | sleep crachs yes i uncomment that |
| 18:26.56 | phh | I think my sensors android driver is kind of leaking. |
| 18:27.18 | eval- | USCC is so crazy. sometimes phone, sometimes ESN, sometimes pap-secrets is enough, sometimes they need an options.smd1. i have a stupid script for them if they come and bother you... they just edit it, chmod +x it, run it, and then airplane on & off: http://is.gd/aSvad |
| 18:28.09 | eval- | i mean, of course it will be obsolete so soon b/c phh will fix GUI user & pass :p |
| 18:28.26 | Hoochster | added the thread to the faq eval- but doubt it helps keep the questions down lol |
| 18:28.43 | phh | eval-: someone said it's fixed |
| 18:28.47 | phh | but I don't believe that :p |
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| 18:29.31 | eval- | ooh a FAQ that sounds nice where is it? |
| 18:29.57 | eval- | phh: ooh that'd be nice. the ril version i pushed to his phone on sunday failed... but i've also heard this funny expression |
| 18:30.01 | eval- | phh: DETU? |
| 18:30.04 | phh | :p |
| 18:30.36 | phh | there is something I wanted to add after the U yesterday but I forgot what :( |
| 18:31.30 | Hoochster | eval-, http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=113373 |
| 18:32.56 | eval- | Hoochster: coolios |
| 18:33.23 | Tigerzen1 | Ok gauner randomly works and randomly not hangs but just too many wait... |
| 18:33.35 | Tigerzen1 | There's problem |
| 18:33.51 | eval- | hey wtf |
| 18:33.57 | eval- | D/SMS ( 1272): New SMS Message Received |
| 18:34.08 | eval- | D/RILJ ( 1272): [0139]> SMS_ACKNOWLEDGE true 0 |
| 18:34.08 | eval- | D/RIL ( 1210): onRequest: SMS_ACKNOWLEDGE |
| 18:34.08 | eval- | D/AT ( 1210): AT> AT+CNMA=1 |
| 18:34.08 | eval- | D/AT ( 1210): AT< ERROR |
| 18:34.13 | eval- | did i actually get an SMS? |
| 18:34.16 | eval- | where'd it goooooo |
| 18:34.25 | Jafterdark | whats up |
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| 18:34.46 | phh | eval-: na don't worry, it's your mother who wants to know where you are and your phone answers by itself. |
| 18:34.55 | eval- | phh: haha |
| 18:34.56 | chamonix | lol |
| 18:34.59 | Hoochster | feature |
| 18:35.14 | eval- | phh: so when i was 16 i interned with omnipoint (which became voicestream which got bought by t-mobile) |
| 18:35.28 | eval- | phh: and i got to 'test' one of those huge fat phones that woudl warm the side of your head, a lot |
| 18:35.29 | phh | cool. |
| 18:35.39 | eval- | phh: but the only people who called me were my parents... like "where are you!? it's LATE!" |
| 18:35.45 | eval- | and i decided cell phones were horrible |
| 18:35.45 | phh | hehe |
| 18:35.53 | eval- | and i avoided getting one until 3rd year in college |
| 18:35.57 | chamonix | and u invented twitter? |
| 18:36.01 | eval- | haha |
| 18:36.34 | Hoochster | Twitter update 'Taking a crap over the back deck!' |
| 18:38.26 | eval- | i like how stephen colbert was being interviewed on tv |
| 18:38.38 | phh | who ? |
| 18:38.40 | eval- | and the morning show lady is all "So Stephen, do you use Twitter?" |
| 18:38.46 | eval- | And he replies "Oh yes. I twat. A lot" |
| 18:38.59 | chamonix | can someone ddos the gtalk server? I need to test my reconnection manager |
| 18:39.29 | phh | eval-: concerning this ril fix, some people claims it works, some others claims it doesn't :p |
| 18:39.33 | eval- | phh: american comedian who is very liberal and impersonates bill o'reilly for fun |
| 18:39.37 | phh | chamonix: lol. |
| 18:40.06 | chamonix | btw phh: switching to 2G prevents my phone to sleep |
| 18:40.11 | phh | chamonix: oO |
| 18:40.14 | eval- | chamonix: switch to 2G works?? |
| 18:40.25 | eval- | chamonix: just gsm or cdma too |
| 18:40.39 | eval- | chamonix: i want to test whether my data gets "stuck" on 2g too |
| 18:41.20 | eval- | chamonix: haha, or maybe my insomniac phone is already stuck in 2G? ;) |
| 18:41.20 | phh | only gsm |
| 18:41.35 | chamonix | eval-: with the RIL I got from phh yesterday it works btwn GSM and UMTS yes |
| 18:42.15 | eval- | cool. |
| 18:42.25 | chamonix | but the behaviour is weird and I observed an unrelated wakelock from PowerManagerService |
| 18:42.37 | eval- | oh richard stallman wanted to know the free / nonfree state of the various subsystems on each htc phone |
| 18:42.44 | chamonix | and the status of the checkbox is inconsistent |
| 18:42.48 | eval- | or rather, he wanted me to provide a contact person who knew all this to get in touch with his contact person |
| 18:42.56 | eval- | who is our GPL guru, if we have one |
| 18:43.33 | chamonix | not me |
| 18:43.35 | eval- | he said they have some effort on htc and contacts already, someone is in 'charge' of it. i asked for the htc contacts but got nothing =/ |
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| 18:43.48 | eval- | but it seems all they know is about the G1 |
| 18:43.54 | phh | eval-: codeaurora seems to work hard to be 100% open now |
| 18:44.16 | phh | for non htc snapdragon. |
| 18:44.56 | eval- | is HTC a partner, contributor? have they released any/much userspace to GPL? |
| 18:45.19 | eval- | RMS says technically he believes linking against the kernel or modules should for GPL |
| 18:45.33 | eval- | but that linus and kernel guys decided never to try to enforce that |
| 18:45.44 | eval- | should force release under GPL i mean |
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| 18:46.58 | eval- | phh: i think he wanted specific GPL/nonfree code release status for the various htc phones and associated libraries |
| 18:49.45 | chamonix | phh: does it seem logical to u that a wakelock is set when I switch from 3G to 2G and that wakelock is not left because of the error following that switch? |
| 18:56.39 | phh | chamonix: not at all |
| 18:57.33 | phh | eval-: everything that is linked to the kernel is open source |
| 18:57.35 | chamonix | ok, I need to find the cause of that wakelock then |
| 18:57.35 | phh | even if it's just a module |
| 18:57.44 | phh | chamonix: what's the name of the wakelock ? |
| 18:57.58 | chamonix | PowerManagerService |
| 18:58.04 | eval- | phh: but not RIL. so, just in-kernel & modules |
| 18:58.12 | phh | eval-: yup |
| 18:58.27 | phh | eval-: all other HTC sources are closed |
| 18:58.43 | phh | hopefully qualcomm opened some stuff. |
| 19:01.39 | eval- | that would amaze me i heard they were pretty bad |
| 19:02.38 | phh | seriously I'd call them one of the good guys |
| 19:02.39 | Jafterdark | why does mms not work but if i go to a browser and find a Picture and hit share it will work |
| 19:02.49 | phh | well they sell hardware. |
| 19:03.40 | phh | while HTC mostly sells software |
| 19:04.34 | eval- | yeah that's an interesting perspective. if htc hasn't made WinMo usable, where would they eb |
| 19:04.36 | eval- | be |
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| 19:05.30 | Markinus | phh: hi, do you know a other way du dump devices i2C adresses unter winmo as haret? |
| 19:05.45 | phh | Markinus: no |
| 19:09.24 | Markinus | phh: hmm, I have a -5 error in i2c communication with the battery monitor chip, like the adress would be wrong . . |
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| 19:13.48 | jamenlang | myn, thanks for vogue A2DP |
| 19:14.08 | jamenlang | it's got some bugs, but it works |
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| 19:20.24 | jamenlang | i hope phh/babijoee release a package with A2DP enabled |
| 19:20.43 | phh | jamenlang: bah espresso already has A2DP working |
| 19:20.50 | jamenlang | espresso has it, but the os is slow |
| 19:21.05 | jamenlang | unusable |
| 19:21.20 | phh | diam100 ? |
| 19:21.28 | jamenlang | raph800 |
| 19:21.31 | phh | weird |
| 19:21.34 | phh | should work fine for you |
| 19:22.16 | jamenlang | i like the look of espresso, but i run into problems with APN's and the hardware keyboard |
| 19:22.43 | Captnoord | phh you know if the gpio stuff changes when we boot to linux? |
| 19:22.49 | Captnoord | besides the stuff we do our own? |
| 19:23.31 | phh | I guess it's not. |
| 19:23.45 | Captnoord | k |
| 19:24.21 | phh | Captnoord: you want to start linux from SPL ? :) |
| 19:24.29 | Captnoord | hehe... maybe |
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| 19:24.35 | Captnoord | that usb bootloader looks interesting |
| 19:24.40 | Captnoord | saves us loads of reboots |
| 19:24.41 | phh | you don't need it |
| 19:24.46 | phh | dzo's boot loader works fine |
| 19:24.47 | Captnoord | just load a new kernel trough usb |
| 19:24.48 | Captnoord | and boot it |
| 19:24.56 | phh | you can do it with spl |
| 19:25.00 | phh | if you know how to talk to it. |
| 19:25.00 | Captnoord | k |
| 19:25.03 | Captnoord | hehe |
| 19:25.08 | Captnoord | nah... I was wondering |
| 19:25.16 | Captnoord | when we boot to linux |
| 19:25.17 | phh | ask cmonex, you can ""flash"" diag images |
| 19:25.30 | Captnoord | I think the current measure stuff is locked into charge mode |
| 19:25.41 | Captnoord | maybe we need to reboot arm9 for it to recover |
| 19:25.41 | Captnoord | :S |
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| 19:28.12 | Captnoord | phh maybe we need to set DEX_M2A_NOTIFY_ARM9_AT_CMD_READY |
| 19:28.15 | Captnoord | before resetting it |
| 19:28.30 | phh | what's that ? |
| 19:28.37 | Captnoord | its a dex command |
| 19:28.47 | phh | I mean it's not in cr2's docs :p |
| 19:29.05 | Captnoord | its in nk.exe |
| 19:29.13 | Captnoord | how come its not in his docs |
| 19:29.14 | Captnoord | :P |
| 19:36.00 | Markinus | NetRipper: ping |
| 19:38.15 | Markinus | phh: did you find something more about the adsp tables? |
| 19:38.20 | phh | no :( |
| 19:38.28 | phh | I should use ida |
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| 19:38.32 | phh | but I can't even get the filese -_-' |
| 19:38.42 | Markinus | :( |
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| 19:51.54 | Captnoord | ? |
| 19:51.55 | Captnoord | phh |
| 19:51.58 | Captnoord | ida problems? |
| 19:52.04 | phh | Captnoord: sound for topa/rhod. |
| 19:52.11 | phh | I can't get the files from windows |
| 19:52.28 | Captnoord | you can't download a rom kit |
| 19:52.41 | phh | a what ? :D |
| 19:52.50 | Captnoord | rom kitchen |
| 19:53.13 | phh | hum |
| 19:53.21 | phh | where can I get that ? :D |
| 19:53.28 | Captnoord | xda-developers.com |
| 19:53.33 | phh | pfff |
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| 20:00.54 | chamonix | I hate Android SDK's logger |
| 20:01.40 | phh | and it hates you ? :p |
| 20:02.19 | chamonix | no, but it's so primitive.... there isn't even a way to add a writer |
| 20:02.53 | chamonix | let's try to run log4j |
| 20:03.38 | chamonix | but my reconnection thing seems to work so I'll release LeEffect with the XMPP client end of this week |
| 20:03.42 | chamonix | +d |
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| 20:05.28 | Wout | oi |
| 20:05.29 | htc | hey anyone here not afk? |
| 20:05.29 | htc | i guess this isnt an android support channel |
| 20:05.29 | chamonix | phh: look at this :) http://microlog.microsuite.org/ |
| 20:05.31 | Wout | hey htc, can you please give us all the docs for the tp2? kthxbye |
| 20:05.38 | htc | sure |
| 20:05.56 | htc | i just wanna know what the latest root method is on g1 or touch |
| 20:06.12 | htc | if anyone would give me some prospective i would greatly appreciate it |
| 20:06.26 | phh | #android-root |
| 20:07.18 | htc | ~_~ |
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| 20:24.57 | Captnoord | hmm |
| 20:24.58 | Captnoord | cool |
| 20:25.05 | Captnoord | sending |
| 20:25.06 | Captnoord | dex.cmd = PCOM_SET_CHARGER_STATUS; |
| 20:25.06 | Captnoord | dex.has_data = 1; |
| 20:25.06 | Captnoord | dex.data = 1; |
| 20:25.13 | Captnoord | makes the discharge bit disapear |
| 20:25.26 | Captnoord | hmmmm |
| 20:25.28 | Captnoord | so maybe.... |
| 20:25.35 | phh | oO |
| 20:25.42 | Captnoord | it now actualy gives some numbers on the discharge field |
| 20:25.49 | Captnoord | struct htc_batt_info_u16 { |
| 20:25.49 | Captnoord | volatile u16 batt_id; |
| 20:25.49 | Captnoord | volatile u16 batt_temp; |
| 20:25.49 | Captnoord | volatile u16 batt_vol; |
| 20:25.49 | Captnoord | volatile s16 batt_charge; |
| 20:25.50 | Captnoord | volatile u16 batt_discharge; |
| 20:25.50 | Captnoord | }; |
| 20:25.56 | Captnoord | batt_discharge was always 1 |
| 20:26.00 | Captnoord | I had a check |
| 20:26.12 | Captnoord | if ( batt_discharge == 1 ) current = - current; |
| 20:26.18 | Captnoord | lame ass check |
| 20:26.20 | Captnoord | useless |
| 20:26.22 | Captnoord | but..... |
| 20:26.32 | Captnoord | lemme reboot and check the ram console |
| 20:26.35 | phh | Captnoord: eh, in your clkregim.dll, do you have a uP_sleep function ? |
| 20:26.43 | Captnoord | yup |
| 20:27.04 | Captnoord | got that one some time ago |
| 20:27.26 | Captnoord | but I have to check because its possible that I found it in nk.exe |
| 20:28.37 | Captnoord | aaaahhhh |
| 20:28.38 | Captnoord | [ 3.905364] Raw batt Info: |
| 20:28.38 | Captnoord | [ 3.905395] batt_id: 0 |
| 20:28.38 | Captnoord | [ 3.905395] batt_temp: 3479 |
| 20:28.38 | Captnoord | [ 3.905426] batt_vol: 3181 |
| 20:28.38 | Captnoord | [ 3.905426] batt_charge: 28 |
| 20:28.39 | Captnoord | [ 3.905456] batt_discharge: 0 |
| 20:28.39 | Captnoord | crap |
| 20:28.46 | Captnoord | screams..... |
| 20:29.08 | phh | ? |
| 20:29.13 | Captnoord | doesn't do shit |
| 20:29.17 | phh | batt isn't discharge isn't what you expecte ? |
| 20:29.29 | Captnoord | nah... when measuring current |
| 20:29.32 | phh | ah. |
| 20:29.35 | Captnoord | regarding charging discharging |
| 20:29.39 | Captnoord | you don't want them mixed up |
| 20:29.45 | Captnoord | so you make a switch for it |
| 20:29.45 | phh | how can you read ASM -_-' |
| 20:29.53 | phh | I'll do strings. it's easier. |
| 20:30.00 | Captnoord | hehe |
| 20:30.17 | Captnoord | yup |
| 20:30.20 | Captnoord | got usleep |
| 20:30.33 | Captnoord | but thats the exported one? |
| 20:31.01 | phh | ? I said up_sleep |
| 20:31.03 | phh | like microp. |
| 20:31.27 | Captnoord | [21:26] <phh> Captnoord: eh, in your clkregim.dll, do you have a uP_sleep function ? |
| 20:31.28 | Captnoord | yup |
| 20:31.29 | Captnoord | I have |
| 20:31.38 | Captnoord | why is that |
| 20:31.39 | phh | right you said usleep :p |
| 20:31.48 | phh | bah stopping microp could be useful |
| 20:31.52 | Captnoord | STR LR, [SP,#var_4]! |
| 20:31.53 | Captnoord | MOV R0, #1 |
| 20:31.53 | Captnoord | BL clk_regime_apps_swfi |
| 20:31.53 | Captnoord | LDR LR, [SP+4+var_4],#4 |
| 20:31.53 | Captnoord | BX LR |
| 20:32.00 | phh | mean it justs do swfi ? |
| 20:32.05 | Captnoord | soft ware |
| 20:32.09 | Captnoord | fi |
| 20:32.10 | Captnoord | ? |
| 20:32.10 | Captnoord | :S |
| 20:32.16 | phh | swfi = wait for interrupt |
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| 20:32.29 | Captnoord | yup |
| 20:32.32 | Captnoord | thats just what it does |
| 20:32.35 | Captnoord | nothing more |
| 20:32.40 | phh | ok |
| 20:32.50 | Captnoord | you want the |
| 20:32.50 | Captnoord | clk_regime_apps_swfi |
| 20:32.52 | Captnoord | functon |
| 20:32.54 | Captnoord | function? |
| 20:33.20 | Captnoord | complicated shit |
| 20:33.23 | Captnoord | not in the mood |
| 20:33.50 | phh | don't worry |
| 20:33.52 | phh | swfi is known |
| 20:34.14 | Captnoord | k |
| 20:34.35 | phh | HTC_RESTART_NOTIFY_FOR_ADSP |
| 20:34.35 | Captnoord | does mental note: don't test 2 changes at once |
| 20:34.36 | phh | YEAH |
| 20:34.39 | phh | that's going to be fun. |
| 20:34.45 | phh | Captnoord: hehe |
| 20:34.59 | Captnoord | now I just don't know what does what |
| 20:35.06 | phh | Captnoord: in IDA, how can I see which functions uses which .text values ? |
| 20:35.35 | Captnoord | press 'x' when you selected the address |
| 20:35.38 | Captnoord | not the string name |
| 20:35.50 | phh | thanks |
| 20:36.29 | Captnoord | I also wonder if we need to unregister all stuff from arm 9 before restarting |
| 20:37.53 | Captnoord | alright |
| 20:37.55 | Captnoord | now I know |
| 20:38.18 | Captnoord | getbatterydata dex call doesn't write to the batt_discharge register somehow |
| 20:38.23 | Captnoord | I did a memset |
| 20:38.26 | Captnoord | before the call |
| 20:38.34 | phh | Markinus: \o/ |
| 20:38.38 | phh | write_ctrl is correct. |
| 20:38.49 | phh | (yes I need little to be happy :D) |
| 20:38.51 | Markinus | phh: hmm |
| 20:39.00 | phh | if i read asm not too badly. |
| 20:39.17 | Markinus | phh: so we don'T know where the problem is .. again :( |
| 20:39.25 | phh | Markinus: I still think it's the tables |
| 20:40.16 | Markinus | phh: the tables are dumped from cr2 on wince right? |
| 20:40.23 | phh | I think so |
| 20:41.03 | phh | hum, weird thing here, get 0x30 and 0x34 access, but no 0x38 |
| 20:41.29 | phh | I'm not sure if it's releavant. |
| 20:44.07 | Captnoord | phh maybe its a smart thing to update the mpd_ppp code |
| 20:44.16 | Captnoord | we use the latest 3d stuff |
| 20:44.16 | phh | Captnoord: mmmmmmuh ? |
| 20:44.19 | Captnoord | but haven't updated that |
| 20:44.25 | Markinus | phh: if I understand the tables correct, then we have to every modul a offset for his queue right? |
| 20:44.36 | phh | Markinus: I think so |
| 20:44.52 | phh | also there are different "images" |
| 20:45.01 | phh | I guess the ADSP has something like 5 available firmwares |
| 20:45.04 | phh | and it switches on the fly |
| 20:45.11 | phh | with some firmwares having different features |
| 20:45.25 | phh | that's why there are many offset/modules tables |
| 20:45.47 | Markinus | phh: if the order of the images/offset isn'T the same as the module one . .problem |
| 20:46.04 | phh | yes |
| 20:47.13 | phh | I think I know where I have to look in code \o/ |
| 20:47.24 | phh | adsprtossvccore.dll |
| 20:48.06 | phh | when it does STR R3, [R1,#0x34] |
| 20:49.34 | Markinus | phh,. the QDSP_txMpuEncQueue is QDSP_MODULE_AUDPPTASK |
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| 20:50.15 | phh | hum where ? |
| 20:50.46 | Markinus | phh: but is in 5225 too . . |
| 20:50.58 | Markinus | phh: I checked the order in arrays |
| 20:50.59 | phh | right I think I didn't understood your question correctly before :p |
| 20:51.20 | phh | the queue offset tables are independant of task_to_module_table |
| 20:51.31 | Markinus | phh: ahhh, ok, :) |
| 20:51.43 | phh | just that you won't create queues for modules that doesn't exist :p |
| 20:52.44 | phh | btw I've stoped using my rhod has my music player (I use my diamond for that now -_-'), so it now always run android.... and god it's way better than WM ... |
| 20:53.00 | Hoochster | heh |
| 20:53.11 | Hoochster | aint that the truth |
| 20:54.05 | phh | so I need working sound :D |
| 20:54.18 | Hoochster | heh noticed you are really after it past few days heh |
| 20:54.23 | Hoochster | must be why |
| 20:54.51 | phh | Markinus: I found the tables \o/ |
| 20:55.01 | phh | I don't know who is who though, but I can do some tries :D |
| 20:55.04 | Markinus | phh: ahh cool! |
| 20:55.22 | Wout | i've been tryint music player apps for winmo the past few days |
| 20:55.24 | Wout | all crap |
| 20:55.37 | phh | Wout: yeah :/ |
| 20:55.38 | Wout | cant wait to get a proper one from the android market :) |
| 20:55.39 | phh | and I want spotify |
| 20:55.44 | Hoochster | nice phh |
| 20:55.55 | phh | I have a spotify http gateway so it's usable with coreplayer |
| 20:55.58 | phh | but still, it's just usable. |
| 20:56.07 | phh | while real spotify is <3. |
| 20:56.27 | phh | ok time to stop dreaming and start coding. |
| 20:56.44 | Hoochster | heh |
| 20:56.51 | Hoochster | no need to dream if you can get it working |
| 20:56.59 | Hoochster | don't make this a fairy tale lol |
| 20:57.06 | Hoochster | Dreams really can come true heh |
| 20:57.10 | Hoochster | I have too many girls |
| 20:58.43 | phh | I think you can sell some. |
| 20:58.49 | phh | whispers. |
| 21:00.19 | Hoochster | I have tried, I have to pay them to take em |
| 21:00.20 | Hoochster | lol |
| 21:01.04 | Wout | sound would be amazing, finally a working alarm clock! <3 and spotify ofcourse ;) |
| 21:01.37 | Hoochster | lol no sheet! |
| 21:01.57 | Wout | btw, can rhod users recommend a light fast 6.5.3 rom? no manila or anything |
| 21:02.10 | diiishe | just turn manila off |
| 21:02.26 | diiishe | I personally don't like manila- resource hog and slows down my phone |
| 21:02.30 | Hoochster | wout check out Calkulin's rom he made just for Android |
| 21:02.37 | Wout | thats what I do right now, but still, there's only 45mb free |
| 21:02.44 | Wout | with android its double |
| 21:02.48 | diiishe | 45mb free?! |
| 21:02.53 | diiishe | wtf are u runnig |
| 21:02.57 | Wout | energyrom |
| 21:03.02 | diiishe | oh jeez, no |
| 21:03.04 | Hoochster | http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=113402 |
| 21:03.07 | diiishe | that's full of stuff |
| 21:03.19 | Hoochster | ya NRG is def loaded down |
| 21:03.34 | diiishe | u want clean, stick with Mighty or Mr.X |
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| 21:03.41 | Wout | Hoochster: I know that one, but I do want to use winmo every now and then, this one is a little too stripped for my tastes |
| 21:03.48 | eval- | having people type "su" or even copy files is too complicated |
| 21:03.48 | diiishe | or some guy made something he called "naked ROM" but I haven't tried that yet |
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| 21:04.15 | Hoochster | wout understand heh that's whY i put the Sprint stock rom on heh |
| 21:04.17 | eval- | in rootfs /init, line 153: /bin/rm -rf /data/etc |
| 21:04.18 | eval- | /bin/mkdir -m 0755 /data/etc |
| 21:04.18 | eval- | mount /data/etc /etc |
| 21:04.19 | Wout | I just want to run titanium homescreen, touchtwit, opera mobile 10 and a music player simultaniuosly |
| 21:04.28 | eval- | why is deleting and recreating /data/etc a feature? |
| 21:04.30 | Hoochster | I still needed contacts, sms and email when I am not in android heh |
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| 21:04.50 | diiishe | too bad android doesn't sync SMS with exchange |
| 21:04.55 | diiishe | then u could keep them in sync |
| 21:05.16 | Hoochster | diiishe, maybe 2.1 |
| 21:05.18 | diiishe | is loving cross platform apps that sync to each other, like evernote |
| 21:05.28 | diiishe | nah, 2.1 still doesn't |
| 21:05.30 | Hoochster | it has exchange sync now, including calendar, but dunno if it recognizes 2k10 |
| 21:05.35 | stinebd | eval-: my guess is to ensure sanity in the directory tree -- you need to mount over an existing directory |
| 21:05.38 | diiishe | still doesn't do SMS or tasks |
| 21:05.40 | eval- | if i could have users put a fixed pap-secrets and options.smd1 (but, read-only) in their /data/etc, without that rm -rf line, they could have persistence of working data settings. |
| 21:05.45 | Hoochster | diiishe, does touchdown? |
| 21:05.46 | diiishe | WM is sadly still better at some very specific things |
| 21:05.54 | Hoochster | I know it does tasks |
| 21:06.02 | eval- | stinebd: i just want some persistent files in /etc/ppp |
| 21:06.05 | Hoochster | we haven't got a 2k10 in production so I don't know on the sms |
| 21:06.05 | diiishe | td does tasks, not sms |
| 21:06.20 | eval- | stinebd: how should i achieve this. users are not able to consistently type "su" and run scripts every reboot to fix their data |
| 21:06.26 | diiishe | but I don't like how TD handles it |
| 21:06.27 | Hoochster | and you are on12k10? |
| 21:06.38 | diiishe | yea |
| 21:06.45 | Hoochster | sorry mistyped that heh |
| 21:06.49 | diiishe | I got what u meant |
| 21:06.54 | Hoochster | heh |
| 21:06.55 | diiishe | my sms can sync, yes |
| 21:07.00 | eval- | stinebd: i guess this goes back to the usefulness of our /sdcard/overwritetree idea |
| 21:07.15 | diiishe | but sms sync is still an unreleased feature, I think |
| 21:07.19 | eval- | stinebd: if the last line of /init allowed us to selectively replace files users needed to modify in specific situations |
| 21:07.21 | diiishe | so TD couldn't possibly have it |
| 21:07.31 | eval- | stinebd: (your find -exec mount --bind thing) |
| 21:07.46 | Hoochster | understood diiishe |
| 21:07.51 | diiishe | Hoochster, also TD keeps your contacts/email/calendar seperated |
| 21:08.01 | Hoochster | was gonna buy TD till i saw that 2.1 at least had support |
| 21:08.11 | diiishe | yeah, I don't really like how TD works, honestly. |
| 21:08.13 | Hoochster | ya diiishe think that was due to needing to support remote wipe and such |
| 21:08.21 | Hoochster | which is a requirement here |
| 21:08.28 | Hoochster | dunno if 2.1's sync does that yet |
| 21:08.29 | diiishe | its a seperate contact list, a seperate appointment list, etc |
| 21:08.31 | Wout | will be getting some handson with a htc desire this week, cant wait |
| 21:08.36 | Hoochster | but what they don't know doesn't hurt them |
| 21:08.38 | stinebd | eval-: why do users need to modify such files? that should be something that devs worry about (who in turn have the experience needed to modify rootfs according to their taste) |
| 21:08.42 | Hoochster | and ya the separate contact was a killer |
| 21:08.48 | eval- | stinebd: because devs are slow |
| 21:09.00 | eval- | stinebd: you guys can fix the data in the APN settings GUI |
| 21:09.16 | eval- | stinebd: but until you do, creating a proper pap-secrets and options.smd1 allows people to use android with data |
| 21:09.18 | stinebd | is there a bug for it? |
| 21:09.19 | phh | Captnoord: what means LDR R3 [R3, R0, LSL#2] |
| 21:09.30 | phh | I understands it's LDR R3 [R3,R0<<2] |
| 21:09.34 | eval- | stinebd: where should i file? |
| 21:09.35 | diiishe | Hoochster- Exchange sync, Voice Command for media, and some legacy WinMo apps that aren't available yet for Android keep me coming back. |
| 21:09.43 | phh | but I can't see what's the [A1, A2] stuff for ldr |
| 21:09.50 | eval- | stinebd: honestly, i cannot test, my provider does not require this stuff. i'm just trying to help out random users |
| 21:10.03 | stinebd | http://pjottrr.no-ip.org:81/redmine/projects/show/androidphh |
| 21:10.05 | phh | ah. it's R3+R0<<2. |
| 21:10.42 | Hoochster | diiishe, understand. |
| 21:10.53 | Captnoord | [22:09] <phh> Captnoord: what means LDR R3 [R3, R0, LSL#2] |
| 21:10.54 | Captnoord | that |
| 21:10.56 | Captnoord | that is evil |
| 21:11.00 | phh | lol ? |
| 21:11.03 | Hoochster | lmao |
| 21:11.05 | Captnoord | nah |
| 21:11.11 | phh | it seems to be R3=R3+R0<<2 ? |
| 21:11.11 | Captnoord | its.... |
| 21:11.21 | phh | argh no |
| 21:11.23 | Captnoord | yup |
| 21:11.24 | phh | it seems to be R3=*(R3+R0<<2) ? |
| 21:11.28 | phh | s/it seems to be/ |
| 21:11.29 | Captnoord | yup |
| 21:11.36 | phh | ok for evil. |
| 21:11.41 | Captnoord | arm is evil |
| 21:11.47 | phh | but powerful and lovely. |
| 21:12.00 | Captnoord | if you see stuff like ldr r3[ r2, 0x40]! |
| 21:12.01 | Captnoord | make sure |
| 21:12.03 | Captnoord | you see the |
| 21:12.04 | stinebd | eval-: also, if you have a fix that should go into rootfs, send it to one of us |
| 21:12.05 | Captnoord | ! |
| 21:12.11 | phh | Captnoord: what's the ! for ? |
| 21:12.19 | phh | stinebd: na it's a bug in the ril |
| 21:12.22 | Captnoord | it means that it auto increments the pointer |
| 21:12.24 | Captnoord | so |
| 21:12.25 | phh | and some people says it's fixed. |
| 21:12.26 | Captnoord | its |
| 21:12.27 | eval- | stinebd: also, this general mechanism to allow modifications is necessary for other reasons |
| 21:12.32 | phh | Captnoord: -_-' |
| 21:12.41 | Captnoord | r3 = r2 + 0x40; r2 += 0x40; |
| 21:12.48 | phh | Captnoord: ok |
| 21:12.52 | eval- | stinebd: there are things in init.*.rc in /init.cfg that people making roms (memory thresholds? app priorities?) would find useful to tweak |
| 21:13.22 | eval- | stinebd: it is not just a debugging tool, but a way to allow for transparently changing specific files in rootfs as necessary. files which may not need to be changed for 99% of users |
| 21:13.23 | phh | eval-: but not everything :p |
| 21:13.36 | phh | most of things needs to stay in rootfs I fear |
| 21:13.38 | eval- | phh: hmm good point. |
| 21:13.45 | eval- | phh: no i like rootfs i think it's great |
| 21:13.58 | eval- | phh: but the fact people cannot change pap-secrets right now except in a shell... is a problem |
| 21:14.05 | phh | they can |
| 21:14.11 | phh | just change /init.etc/ppp/pap-secret |
| 21:14.23 | eval- | phh: myn wanting to tweak init.donut.rc but not the rest of rootfs |
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| 21:14.34 | eval- | phh: you always have this fork issue, do we move this to system.sqsh or not |
| 21:14.44 | phh | yes but as stinebd pointed, some init.rc stuff needs to be in rootfs imho. |
| 21:14.55 | eval- | yeah the services for user |
| 21:14.56 | eval- | for sure |
| 21:15.04 | eval- | herm |
| 21:15.05 | phh | (as stinebd... imho, my sentence is totally logical.) |
| 21:15.24 | phh | eval-: I don't know much about android's init to know how we can do :/ |
| 21:15.31 | phh | but I think it can take multiples init.rc |
| 21:15.52 | eval- | ok, so the system.sqsh one can just run later |
| 21:16.02 | eval- | phh: these users you suggest modify their rootfs.img :p |
| 21:16.09 | eval- | phh: have trouble with "su" and "cp" :p |
| 21:16.21 | phh | ah. |
| 21:16.22 | phh | good point. |
| 21:16.53 | eval- | we can tell them how to edit a file, and where to drop it. but it seems i was naively optimistic expecting much more. |
| 21:17.15 | stinebd | that's the problem with saying "devs are slow" |
| 21:17.26 | eval- | does nothing in etc ever need to stay between reboots? |
| 21:17.39 | stinebd | those users will post some cryptic message on the forums about data not working and expect us to fix it without any knowledge of there actually being a problem |
| 21:17.51 | eval- | stinebd: the best is when they say it works 1/3 times |
| 21:18.09 | eval- | stinebd: that the script (a simple cat > file << EOF) doesn't overwrite it every time |
| 21:18.13 | stinebd | that's why we need people to report that stuff on the bug tracker |
| 21:19.39 | stinebd | everything in /etc is cleaned out on boot, then replace with what's in /init.etc (and certain things based on machine type and cmdline options etc) |
| 21:20.07 | stinebd | actually, what's in /system/etc and /init.etc |
| 21:20.48 | stinebd | see rootfs /init lines 153-157 |
| 21:21.09 | eval- | stinebd: i just posted them :p that's why you replied to me :p |
| 21:21.36 | eval- | so only readonly sources make it into /etc |
| 21:21.54 | stinebd | no, /init.etc is not read only |
| 21:22.24 | eval- | rootfs.img is rw mount? i thought i was remount -o,rw |
| 21:22.27 | eval- | maybe i am just paranoid |
| 21:22.40 | phh | well we should consider it as R/O anyway |
| 21:22.41 | Wout | stinebd: like so? :P http://pjottrr.no-ip.org:81/redmine/issues/show/80 |
| 21:23.16 | eval- | Wout; wow that's been happening for you for 10 days? it only started for me 3days ago |
| 21:23.40 | Wout | yup, its the reason I've gone back to winmo for now :/ pains me to say it |
| 21:24.13 | eval- | Wout: yeah i can only use android if i'm near adb after my getting lost to the restaurant disaster thursday =/ ok, so 5 days? |
| 21:25.14 | eval- | uhoh, gtg |
| 21:27.09 | phh | oh I lost my connection one time today |
| 21:27.14 | phh | I just had to wait 1minute |
| 21:27.24 | stinebd | and you say this is a ril issue? |
| 21:27.57 | phh | most likely |
| 21:28.16 | stinebd | then why are we worrying about anything in /etc? |
| 21:28.48 | Wout | phh: for me it definitely wasnt fixable by waiting |
| 21:29.04 | ToAsTcfh | phh: what up? |
| 21:29.06 | phh | stinebd: we're not talking about the same thing :p |
| 21:29.12 | phh | ToAsTcfh: fighting with sound |
| 21:29.19 | ToAsTcfh | eek |
| 21:29.24 | stinebd | ok, i'm confused then |
| 21:29.44 | stinebd | what's the issue that we need to modify anything in /etc/ppp for? |
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| 21:31.19 | tmzt_ | lcp? |
| 21:31.28 | ToAsTcfh | phh: i went through ur commits and damn u guys been busy this month |
| 21:31.35 | phh | :p |
| 21:31.42 | phh | stinebd: pap/chap secrets |
| 21:32.00 | phh | we had been running for some months without user/pass handling in RIL -_-' |
| 21:32.25 | stinebd | ok, so what needs to happen now? |
| 21:33.11 | phh | see if my RIL changes fixes it. |
| 21:33.25 | stinebd | nice. another job well done |
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| 21:33.49 | stinebd | link em to rootfs-latest.zip and we'll call it a day |
| 21:34.24 | phh | Captnoord: do you know that: LDR r0,[r1],#4 ? :Dâ© |
| 21:34.53 | phh | r0=*r1;r1+=4; |
| 21:35.42 | stinebd | i've been noticing clock drift lately as a result of not rebooting android as much |
| 21:36.06 | stinebd | we should fix nohz so that stops ;) |
| 21:39.41 | Wout | whats nohz? |
| 21:40.46 | stinebd | black magic, kernel runs without jiffies |
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| 21:43.07 | Wout | my next question would be, what are jiffies :P but its obvious i'm out of my depth here |
| 21:44.51 | IceBone | jiffy = 1/10th of a second |
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| 21:45.19 | stinebd | not quite |
| 21:45.41 | stinebd | jiffy is the time between system timer interrupt fires |
| 21:46.03 | Wout | and android bases its internal clock on it? |
| 21:46.52 | stinebd | the kernel traditionally fires jiffies at a set interval and does periodic processing as needed when those interrupts fire. nohz uses system events to perform periodic processing instead of wasting timer interrupts on it |
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| 21:47.22 | stinebd | fires timer interrupts rather |
| 21:47.59 | stinebd | the kernel says, "i'll be back in a jiffy", then after that jiffy, the interrupt fires and processing occurs |
| 21:48.37 | stinebd | with nohz, the kernel says "call me and i'll come back", then waits with its own android-based mobile phone |
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| 21:49.23 | Captnoord | phh dono |
| 21:49.27 | Captnoord | check the arm.com |
| 21:49.28 | Captnoord | docs |
| 21:49.43 | Captnoord | maybe its |
| 21:49.54 | Captnoord | r0 = r1->int1 |
| 21:50.02 | Captnoord | r0 = *r1+4 |
| 21:50.15 | Wout | stinebd: and this nohz business is difficult to implement? |
| 21:50.19 | stinebd | for some reason we're losing time without nohz... i run nohz for testing on my phone and it keeps time (as a result of saving and restoring time for idle sleep mode, thus losing fewer seconds i guess?) |
| 21:50.48 | stinebd | it's easy to implement, but it causes a hang with usb plugged in for me |
| 21:51.03 | Captnoord | Wout remind me tomorrow that I give you a kernel |
| 21:51.08 | Captnoord | there is a timer patch somewhere |
| 21:51.13 | Captnoord | related to timers not beeing in sync |
| 21:51.28 | Wout | ok, will do :) |
| 21:52.12 | stinebd | somewhere? |
| 21:52.26 | Captnoord | codeaurora repo |
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| 21:55.41 | Captnoord | stinebd: I dono..... nohz? |
| 21:55.48 | Captnoord | nah |
| 21:55.52 | Captnoord | will peek tomorrow |
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| 22:18.45 | Hoochster | finally home woot |
| 22:19.22 | Hoochster | so MrPippy any thoughts on the merge of the ril's for rhodium cdma and the standard? heh |
| 22:20.47 | MrPippy | yeah thats something i should look at, i really want to try and make the ril work on both cdma (like diam/raph) and world, so we don't have to add another cmdline param just for world phones |
| 22:21.36 | Hoochster | heh |
| 22:21.53 | Hoochster | would just make things easier to worry bout the 1 rootfs |
| 22:22.47 | Hoochster | I know k_linux is doing that expresso project, and for whatever reason wifi don't work for rhodium, not sure why expresso is different, cdma data works fine with the proper ril of course |
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| 22:27.53 | Hank_ | Hi |
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| 22:45.39 | Markinus | cr2_: Hi, I have the battery driver |
| 22:46.09 | Markinus | cr2_: but I cannot connect over i2c . . like the ic2 address in wiki would be wrong . . |
| 22:46.23 | Markinus | *i2c |
| 22:46.49 | Markinus | cr2_: but i don't know a other way as haret in wince to check it |
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| 22:47.59 | Markinus | cr2_: the battery monitor is like wiki on 0x4c |
| 22:48.03 | cr2_ | Markinus: it should be this address |
| 22:48.22 | Markinus | cr2_: hmm, I get always err -5 |
| 22:48.39 | cr2_ | Markinus: can you scan the i2c bus in linux ? |
| 22:49.02 | Markinus | cr2_: we didn't have a input yet |
| 22:49.15 | Markinus | cr2_: can I do it from kernel? |
| 22:49.51 | cr2_ | hmm. |
| 22:50.25 | Markinus | cr2_: the connection to elan touchpad is working, so the I2C is working |
| 22:50.31 | cr2_ | ok |
| 22:50.56 | Markinus | cr2_: ( if I change the i2c adress from that then I have the same error as on battery) |
| 22:51.17 | Hank_ | guys |
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| 22:52.04 | Hank_ | wifi on htc touch pro 2 (rhodium 100) is done and cosidered stable, or you still experiencing problem? |
| 22:52.05 | Markinus | cr2_: btw, what do you think is the right place for this driver, drivers/power or drivers/i2c/chips? I would put it in the second one |
| 22:52.19 | cr2_ | i2c/chips |
| 22:53.03 | cr2_ | because it's just a battery monitor |
| 22:54.34 | Hank_ | Also another question |
| 22:55.52 | Hank_ | you are "developing" the android for htc touch pro 2. Do you have any release plan for the still non-working or unstable things? I know there is a forum but I did a search for wifi problem and no hit. |
| 22:55.56 | Hank_ | no relevant hit |
| 22:56.22 | Hank_ | I do not care if there will be a working one in aug or oct |
| 22:56.58 | Hank_ | Just wanted to know if you have release plane for the missing working functions |
| 22:57.14 | Hank_ | I mean missing non-working |
| 22:59.11 | Markinus | cr2_: ok, the it's already on the right position |
| 23:00.10 | Markinus | cr2_: I have the datasheets and changed the differences and rewriten a bit. E.g. We have a integrated temp monitor ( 2746 not) |
| 23:00.33 | cr2_ | the registers are the same |
| 23:00.49 | cr2_ | afair we have better accuracy |
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| 23:01.48 | tmzt_ | lcp-echo |
| 23:02.38 | Markinus | cr2_: yes, almost same, only instead the Auxiliary Input the tepreture registers |
| 23:03.52 | cr2_ | yes |
| 23:04.28 | cr2_ | i can document the TS commands, but i still don't understand it operation mode |
| 23:04.50 | tpruvot | for the i2c... there is sample in lmsensors-detect |
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| 23:05.09 | cr2_ | tpruvot: no keyboard, and no usb yet |
| 23:05.41 | cr2_ | Markinus: add it to init ? |
| 23:05.59 | tpruvot | :) |
| 23:06.01 | Markinus | cr2_: hmm, yes, we could try it |
| 23:06.43 | tpruvot | gpio irq event (buttons) are maybe working ? |
| 23:07.01 | Markinus | tpruvot: no, there is a problems with GPIOs |
| 23:07.09 | Markinus | tpruvot: if we press a button the device crash |
| 23:07.26 | Markinus | tpruvot: I couldn'T dinf the problem till now |
| 23:07.27 | tpruvot | http://www.mjmwired.net/kernel/Documentation/i2c/writing-clients |
| 23:07.29 | cr2_ | Markinus: must be an irq problem |
| 23:07.59 | Markinus | cr2_: the driver used GPIO IRQs too, maybe tha same problem . . |
| 23:08.26 | tpruvot | or maybe a pull problem |
| 23:08.53 | tpruvot | pin need to be "pulled up" |
| 23:09.09 | Tigerzen | Markinus ive found a trick to arrenge temporarely wait problem ;) |
| 23:09.11 | gauner1986 | Markinus: any fix about the usbnet problem with wrong mdlm parameters yet? |
| 23:09.20 | tpruvot | sometimes made with resistors... sometimes you need to set it |
| 23:10.06 | Markinus | tpruvot: yes, could be, meybe different to other devices |
| 23:10.31 | tpruvot | but a i2c_scan is simple to do |
| 23:10.38 | tpruvot | you write a 0x00 address |
| 23:10.45 | tpruvot | all chips will answer |
| 23:10.50 | tpruvot | its a mask |
| 23:11.09 | Markinus | tpruvot: ahh, ok, thx! I'M on reading :) |
| 23:11.15 | tpruvot | dont remember if it is 0x00 or 0x01 (one to ask, one to set) |
| 23:11.40 | Markinus | Tigerzen: how did you di it? |
| 23:11.53 | Markinus | gauner1986: no yet |
| 23:12.04 | Tigerzen | geme time i try other think and tell you |
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| 23:12.52 | Tigerzen | ifconfig usb0 192.168.20.1 up |
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| 23:13.32 | Tigerzen | if kernel dont have texte message and comunicate with usb hi wait but with ifconfig up usb we andertstand and do not wait |
| 23:13.47 | Tigerzen | he understand |
| 23:13.48 | Tigerzen | try |
| 23:14.04 | tpruvot | in fact, that is the difference between i2c_master_send and i2c_master_recv |
| 23:14.10 | Tigerzen | if usb up everything go right no wait |
| 23:14.16 | tpruvot | there is a bit mask to set the direction |
| 23:14.32 | tpruvot | i have already made that with haret... |
| 23:14.54 | tpruvot | and with sysfs |
| 23:14.59 | tpruvot | with a echo |
| 23:15.07 | tpruvot | but, was a long time ago |
| 23:15.34 | stinebd | https://www.codeaurora.org/gitweb/quic/la/?p=kernel/msm.git;a=commit;h=9c1164f691f1ebc7fa74fb20d4b5bcca8a7209a6 |
| 23:15.36 | Markinus | tpruvot: ahh, nice . . |
| 23:15.58 | Tigerzen | viva tpruvot |
| 23:16.10 | tpruvot | and i made some tools with PIC chips :) thats i2c at low level... you can make a i2c tool with 2 gpios :) |
| 23:17.00 | Markinus | ha :) |
| 23:17.08 | AstainHellbring | hi |
| 23:17.09 | tpruvot | gpios for i2c are pulled up (too) |
| 23:17.11 | AstainHellbring | how goes it? |
| 23:17.15 | tpruvot | sda scl |
| 23:17.43 | tpruvot | but via hardware... its in specs of i2c buses |
| 23:19.02 | Tigerzen | now i try if sleep command hangs |
| 23:19.11 | tpruvot | i'm planning to make a i2c tool over usb for my device... |
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| 23:20.30 | tpruvot | with "headphone" detect pin and "headphone button" |
| 23:20.41 | tpruvot | which are reversible on my device (input/output) |
| 23:21.21 | Tigerzen | Markinus : its work !!!!!!!!!!! |
| 23:21.31 | Tigerzen | sleep comand work |
| 23:21.42 | tpruvot | ^^ |
| 23:22.03 | Tigerzen | lol |
| 23:22.04 | Markinus | Tigerzen: nice :) |
| 23:22.14 | gauner1986 | Tigerzen: how did you solve that now? :) |
| 23:22.25 | Tigerzen | i say you if you up usb |
| 23:22.28 | Tigerzen | on boot |
| 23:22.31 | Tigerzen | no need plug |
| 23:22.35 | Tigerzen | just ifconfig |
| 23:22.37 | Tigerzen | usb up |
| 23:22.59 | gauner1986 | then sleep works? Oo |
| 23:23.01 | Tigerzen | on init |
| 23:23.04 | Tigerzen | yes |
| 23:23.08 | Tigerzen | strange |
| 23:23.11 | gauner1986 | yeah |
| 23:23.14 | gauner1986 | very strange |
| 23:23.18 | tpruvot | sleep or usb network ? |
| 23:23.25 | gauner1986 | sleep |
| 23:23.32 | Tigerzen | sleep command hangs now work with ifconfig usb up |
| 23:23.34 | gauner1986 | it crashed the kernel before |
| 23:23.50 | Tigerzen | usb com prob ? |
| 23:23.52 | gauner1986 | Tigerzen says if you put your usb interface up, then sleep works |
| 23:23.59 | Markinus | Tigerzen: is the network connection working? |
| 23:24.02 | Tigerzen | yes and all boot no wait !!! |
| 23:24.20 | Markinus | cool :) |
| 23:24.21 | Tigerzen | not yet but you can see here maybe find some thing |
| 23:24.24 | tpruvot | weird :) a timer irq maybe |
| 23:24.32 | Markinus | ahh ok |
| 23:24.33 | Tigerzen | non not network |
| 23:24.43 | Tigerzen | i dont try it |
| 23:24.44 | Markinus | but step by step :) |
| 23:25.09 | tpruvot | there is other ways to make a sleep function... |
| 23:25.21 | Tigerzen | i try root delay now |
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| 23:25.30 | tpruvot | you need to check what is used in sleep function |
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| 23:25.56 | gauner1986 | the problem with root delay probably is that you cant put the usb if up before the delay |
| 23:26.12 | Tigerzen | non its work tooooooo |
| 23:26.19 | gauner1986 | very strange |
| 23:26.38 | Tigerzen | i thinks like too |
| 23:26.42 | Tigerzen | but its work |
| 23:26.55 | Tigerzen | i thinks e2fsck then i try |
| 23:27.20 | gauner1986 | where in the init do you put the if up? |
| 23:27.49 | tpruvot | ok... hmmm... me i need to try to turn a led on on first command of startlinux... |
| 23:28.30 | Tigerzen | first after #!/bin/sh |
| 23:29.04 | Tigerzen | maybe im do somethings else you reason rootdelay not can be work |
| 23:29.13 | Tigerzen | cause i work with initrd now |
| 23:29.20 | gauner1986 | hm |
| 23:29.22 | Tigerzen | set cmdline dont care about not ? |
| 23:29.23 | gauner1986 | i think so too |
| 23:29.41 | gauner1986 | you set ifconfig up after the rootdelay has taken place |
| 23:29.48 | gauner1986 | so it cannot affect the rootdelay |
| 23:30.23 | Tigerzen | ok now ouput ifconfig and will see |
| 23:33.01 | Tigerzen | yes right gauner rootdelay dont take care when initrd use |
| 23:33.20 | Tigerzen | but we dont need rootdelay when use initrd ;) |
| 23:36.04 | gauner1986 | yes |
| 23:37.15 | Tigerzen | ok im faulse |
| 23:37.18 | Tigerzen | sleep doesnt work |
| 23:37.22 | Tigerzen | arggh |
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| 23:40.01 | Tigerzen | sorry i put sleep on sd detect script because now its include right on kernel then he dont execute sleep then i try to put it solo and hangs |
| 23:41.49 | Tigerzen | grrrrrrr |
| 23:46.14 | IceBone | Ugh... someone just called me, but the phone process took so fucking long to start responding that it didn't even register what number it was, let alone allowed me to answer. |
| 23:50.04 | IceBone | I'm _this_ close to going back to windows. |
| 23:50.26 | stinebd | lol |
| 23:50.36 | IceBone | :( |
| 23:50.43 | IceBone | I don't want to. |
| 23:50.45 | stinebd | no need to get angry about it. if android doesn't work well enough, just use windows until we get it fixed |
| 23:51.01 | stinebd | this stuff is nowhere near stable |
| 23:52.21 | IceBone | Do you at least know why sometimes the phone just doesn't want to cooperate? |
| 23:52.38 | stinebd | nope |
| 23:52.45 | IceBone | Sometimes apps open instantaniously, sometimes it takes up to 45!!! seconds. |
| 23:52.51 | stinebd | which board? |
| 23:53.00 | IceBone | Board? |
| 23:53.08 | IceBone | diam100 if that's what you mean. |
| 23:53.09 | cr2_ | phone |
| 23:53.17 | stinebd | ah, low mem |
| 23:53.39 | IceBone | But if it was low mem, it'd be slow all the time. |
| 23:53.49 | AstainHellbring | hi cr2_ |
| 23:53.54 | stinebd | not necessarily |
| 23:54.12 | stinebd | not all apps use the same amount of ram, not all workloads involve the same number of apps, etc |
| 23:54.56 | IceBone | Well, I keep available ram always about 25 MB |
| 23:55.01 | stinebd | you could always try tinkering with the memory limits in init.eclair.rc in rootfs |
| 23:55.04 | IceBone | And I'm talking about the contacts apps or messaging. |
| 23:55.18 | IceBone | It would open straight away, then if I close it and open again, I have to wait 20+ seconds. |
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| 23:55.48 | stinebd | yeah, that could be lowmemkiller nuking them and then the phone having to load them back up |
| 23:56.11 | randomblame | hey astain |
| 23:56.50 | IceBone | stinebd: any way of preventing them of doing so? |
| 23:56.53 | IceBone | it* |
| 23:56.59 | stinebd | [19:55:01] <stinebd> you could always try tinkering with the memory limits in init.eclair.rc in rootfs |
| 23:58.22 | IceBone | How do I open it? |
| 23:59.14 | AstainHellbring | hi randomblame |