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| 01:13.38 | Mrono | hi |
| 01:13.47 | Mrono | ident |
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| 02:31.47 | AstainHellbring | http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/htc-evo-4g-review/ |
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| 03:22.19 | joel1nux | Anyone here? |
| 03:22.34 | joel1nux | I am having a hard time cross-compiling an android kernel: |
| 03:22.36 | AstainHellbring | hi |
| 03:22.39 | joel1nux | http://pastebin.org/256339 |
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| 03:23.27 | tucemiux | anyone home today? |
| 03:23.33 | joel1nux | Doesn't seem like it :( |
| 03:23.44 | joel1nux | I have cross-compiling kernel issues |
| 03:24.18 | tucemiux | yeah no one with a pulse is on tonite, all of them are bots |
| 03:24.59 | joel1nux | they can be whatever they want to be...I'm not racist...I just need answers :) |
| 03:25.16 | joel1nux | AstainHellbring: can you help us? |
| 03:25.18 | joel1nux | you seem alive |
| 03:25.25 | tucemiux | im trying to find out what the status is for linux or android on htc devices, mainly htc mogul, I think its called titan as well, it's the HTC 6800 |
| 03:25.47 | AstainHellbring | sorry I'm not so good at the crosscompile |
| 03:26.05 | tucemiux | joel1nux, you have an htc device? O_o |
| 03:26.18 | joel1nux | tucemiux: Nexus one count? :) |
| 03:26.48 | tucemiux | joel1nux, i think the Nexus one counts, im still using the 6800 |
| 03:27.16 | joel1nux | wow |
| 03:27.16 | tucemiux | joel1nux, have you tried installing a different ROM on your phone? |
| 03:27.29 | joel1nux | tucemiux: this is cross compiling on my main computer |
| 03:27.33 | joel1nux | hasn't even hit the phone yet |
| 03:28.09 | tucemiux | yes, i know you are quite surprised at what a big noob I am, im only here trying to figure out what to do on my phone, it's acting sluggish and the data connection is always on |
| 03:28.29 | tucemiux | Hared: Booting Linux |
| 03:28.48 | joel1nux | hmm |
| 03:29.09 | tucemiux | failed to find roofts on SD card |
| 03:30.31 | joel1nux | tucemiux: how do you get info on boot sequence? nexus one just covers it with the nexus one symbol |
| 03:31.30 | tucemiux | joel1nux, i downloaded AndroidMogul to my SD card and ran haret.exe on my winmo device |
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| 03:32.03 | tucemiux | joel1nux, oh sorry, looks like you asked me a question, sorry -- I dont have an answer :-( |
| 03:32.28 | AstainHellbring | tucemiux wow 6800? |
| 03:32.29 | AstainHellbring | ouch |
| 03:33.03 | tucemiux | it's not like I have a MAC |
| 03:33.10 | Unholy | hey guys any news on donut to make it work with latest rootfs/zimage ? |
| 03:33.11 | tucemiux | AstainHellbring, what do you have? |
| 03:33.16 | tmzt | joel1nux: what kernel are you trying to build? |
| 03:33.28 | tmzt | you probably need a later toolchain if this is the same issue as HD2 |
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| 03:33.56 | tucemiux | ok so I downloaded AndroidMogul, should I unzip the folder to my SD card or should I unzip the contents of the folder into my SD card? |
| 03:33.58 | tmzt | Unholy: you are going to have to as phh |
| 03:34.08 | joel1nux | 2.6.32-nexusonec |
| 03:34.11 | tmzt | for? |
| 03:34.22 | tmzt | nobody has a nexusonec |
| 03:34.25 | joel1nux | msm |
| 03:34.26 | tmzt | that's the cdma version |
| 03:34.35 | tmzt | for what device |
| 03:34.56 | joel1nux | nexus one |
| 03:34.57 | joel1nux | :) |
| 03:35.17 | tmzt | what compiler are you using? |
| 03:35.25 | AstainHellbring | tucemiux lots |
| 03:35.27 | joel1nux | gcc |
| 03:35.37 | tmzt | which version |
| 03:35.40 | tmzt | from where |
| 03:35.41 | AstainHellbring | tucemiux active on cdma is rhod400 |
| 03:36.06 | tucemiux | AstainHellbring, can you translate that into noob? |
| 03:36.06 | joel1nux | arm-unknown-linux-gnu-gcc-4.3.4 |
| 03:36.20 | AstainHellbring | tucemiux active phone is tp2 on sprint |
| 03:36.27 | AstainHellbring | on att I have a htc desire |
| 03:36.37 | tmzt | joel1nux: where did you get that? |
| 03:37.59 | tucemiux | AstainHellbring, im sorry, im new here, you would have to explain to mean what you are talking about |
| 03:38.16 | tucemiux | i mean, you have to explain to me O_o |
| 03:38.39 | AstainHellbring | tucemiux well you have cdma right and you know how I could have 40 cdma phones but only one could be active at a time right? |
| 03:38.45 | joel1nux | tmzt: crossdev development |
| 03:38.51 | joel1nux | for gentoo |
| 03:40.32 | tucemiux | AstainHellbring, those are technical details, yes but I am not up to that yet, i just want android to work on my phone, i'll start researching on how I can make the phone send/receive calls and hopefully be able to surf the web on it but right now I am attempting to start android first |
| 03:41.09 | AstainHellbring | tucemiux this channel is going to be WAAAAY too indepth for you then |
| 03:41.25 | tmzt | joel1nux: you are probably either building the wrong toolchain (I don't know cross dev you'll have to ask in #gentoo-arm) or using the wrong flags |
| 03:41.38 | tmzt | you might also need to use mahimahi_defconfig |
| 03:41.56 | tmzt | that's not the right tree though, that's the contributions for the canceled cdma phones |
| 03:42.05 | tucemiux | AstainHellbring, im willing to give it a try, generally people just point me at the right direction and off I go and then come back when I get lost, people point again and the cycle continues |
| 03:42.26 | tmzt | there isn't really anyone here supporting the mogul |
| 03:42.37 | tmzt | dzo's vogue linux is the basis for that support |
| 03:42.58 | tmzt | we certainly don't know anything about the different builds you might be using |
| 03:43.01 | tucemiux | AstainHellbring, i copied all files into the root, zImage and rootfs.img and everything else, i see activity on my phone |
| 03:43.14 | tucemiux | woohoohoooooooooooooo |
| 03:44.02 | tucemiux | there's more than one build??? now im salivating... |
| 03:44.54 | tucemiux | tmzt, im using trying android on my phone |
| 03:45.32 | tmzt | I'm aware of that |
| 03:49.33 | tmzt | In the file vendor/qcom/msm7201a_surf/boot/tools/Android.mk, comment out the two lines that say |
| 03:49.35 | tmzt | include $(BUILD_SYSTEM)/base_rules.mk |
| 03:49.38 | tmzt | That change keeps appsboot.mbn and appsboothd.mbn from building, which depend on usbloader. |
| 03:49.41 | tmzt | http://polytn.blogspot.com/2010/05/lg-gw620-compiling-system.html |
| 03:50.01 | tmzt | interesting, this might enable a full flash on android devices, though this is intended for LGs |
| 03:52.33 | AstainHellbring | tmzt interesting |
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| 03:54.24 | tmzt | yeah, something else suggests it use bootloader legacy |
| 03:54.35 | tmzt | didn't know there was hardware actually using that |
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| 04:04.42 | tucemiux | ok so where was I was net splitted from the channel? |
| 04:04.59 | tucemiux | i meant to say, where was I **before** I got net splitted from the channel |
| 04:07.20 | tucemiux | oh yeah, i want to flash a rom into my htc-mogul, i was wondering what would be the first steps?? what is out there that works with htc-mogul? |
| 04:08.33 | AstainHellbring | tucemiux dunno if there is nand support for it |
| 04:11.04 | tucemiux | AstainHellbring, ok so if you dont know much about the mogul then I guess i have a really late model then? I started using the 6700 with insurance on it, my device broke and then it was replaced by a 6800, the 6800 worked just fine, they fixed all the stuff that was wrong with the 6700 |
| 04:12.24 | AstainHellbring | tucemiux from waht I've see is that there is very little development for titan |
| 04:12.31 | AstainHellbring | I've watched dzo's feed |
| 04:13.19 | tucemiux | AstainHellbring, the titan is an old model though, usually support for older hardware is very good on linux |
| 04:13.46 | AstainHellbring | not for this |
| 04:14.59 | tucemiux | momma mia! |
| 04:15.34 | AstainHellbring | I'm actively subscribed to dzo's rss feed for his code checkins |
| 04:15.42 | tucemiux | I guess im going to have to ask the guys in ppc geeks to see what I can do with my old contraption, I won't pester you anymore, thank you for the feedback |
| 04:16.07 | AstainHellbring | tucemiux looks like you're not in there |
| 04:16.59 | tucemiux | yup yup |
| 04:17.03 | tucemiux | good night AstainHellbring |
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| 06:28.44 | tmzt | jmblouin: try #xda-devs and xda-developers.com |
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| 08:11.49 | tids2k | markinus @ pong |
| 08:12.04 | Markinus | hi |
| 08:12.17 | tids2k | the new video demo test on hd2 yielded a blue screen after haret .. and a boot |
| 08:12.27 | tids2k | are we heading in the right direction ? |
| 08:12.38 | tids2k | did u get anything on the elan .. part |
| 08:13.08 | tids2k | do u have hd2 or tp |
| 08:13.57 | tids2k | ? |
| 08:14.49 | tids2k | got it ;) |
| 08:19.10 | Markinus | I've a hd2 and Topaz |
| 08:19.19 | Markinus | and no, I didn'T do anything in last time |
| 08:19.22 | Markinus | no time . .. :( |
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| 09:23.26 | Mariano | anyone there? |
| 09:26.12 | Mariano | http://www.redmondpie.com/android-for-htc-hd2-9140767/ |
| 09:26.27 | Mariano | is it real? my dreams come true ^^ |
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| 11:36.48 | johnb81 | hi |
| 11:51.09 | Mariano | http://www.redmondpie.com/android-for-htc-hd2-9140767/ |
| 11:51.14 | Mariano | is it real? my dreams come true ^^ |
| 11:52.10 | NetRipper | it is real that 720p video can be played yes |
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| 11:52.28 | NetRipper | but saying android is within reach is a bit overreaction :) |
| 11:52.28 | phh | NetRipper: on linux ? |
| 11:52.34 | NetRipper | phh, yes |
| 11:52.35 | NetRipper | on hd2 |
| 11:52.43 | phh | how ? |
| 11:52.47 | NetRipper | dcordes made a "mediaplayer" |
| 11:52.58 | NetRipper | can't believe you missed that phh :p hold on |
| 11:53.05 | phh | NetRipper: I can't either -_-' |
| 11:54.04 | NetRipper | http://www.xda-developers.com/android/android-on-the-horizon-for-hd2/ |
| 11:54.24 | NetRipper | using mplayer it plays in the framebuffer |
| 11:55.19 | phh | ok right |
| 11:58.51 | phh | but you still have no clue what's wrong ? |
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| 12:07.54 | NetRipper | yes we narrowed it down to toolchain |
| 12:08.09 | NetRipper | hence my questions about 4.4.x/4.3.x yesterday |
| 12:08.24 | NetRipper | dcordes built a new 4.4.4 arm toolchain |
| 12:08.36 | phh | that makes me think of something |
| 12:08.42 | NetRipper | using that toolchain he built the kernel and the angstrom image |
| 12:08.42 | phh | NetRipper: in the kernel, there are options to support different ABI. |
| 12:08.54 | phh | do you have them ? |
| 12:08.54 | NetRipper | yes but i think the raphael used EABI as well |
| 12:09.02 | phh | there are two EABI |
| 12:09.06 | NetRipper | no our kernel does not have ABI support |
| 12:09.08 | NetRipper | really? |
| 12:09.20 | phh | I've seen "old" and "new" EABI at some point yes |
| 12:09.33 | NetRipper | ah yes, old abi is just abi |
| 12:09.38 | NetRipper | new abi is EABI |
| 12:09.39 | phh | no, really EABI |
| 12:09.43 | NetRipper | :x |
| 12:09.55 | phh | ah. perhaps not. |
| 12:09.58 | phh | bad brain. |
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| 12:20.46 | NetRipper | years and years |
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| 12:48.32 | hd2user | I'm just here to listen whats going up in the hd2 sector^^ Just say HELLO@ALL :-) |
| 12:48.52 | phh | you're talking, not just listeing. |
| 12:49.03 | hd2user | :P |
| 12:49.13 | hd2user | just say hello^^ |
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| 12:53.31 | hnsr | hello hd2user |
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| 13:05.26 | hd2user | hey one question, if i compile a kernel from source or download one of the current one ------- > can i get a shell/keyboard xD? or is this not available jet? just want to play a little bit^^ |
| 13:06.16 | hd2user | the is a videoplayer, so a shell is realistic or isnt it^^ |
| 13:06.26 | hd2user | *there |
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| 13:32.45 | Captnoord | [14:48] <phh> you're talking, not just listeing. |
| 13:32.46 | Captnoord | hehe |
| 13:32.48 | Captnoord | so true |
| 13:44.19 | hd2user | i disagree :P |
| 13:46.53 | hd2user | someone knows the answer to my question? |
| 13:48.12 | phh | hd2user: their userland is totally screwed, I'm not even sure they got a shell |
| 13:48.17 | phh | and for keyboard, you'll have to code it. |
| 13:48.31 | Captnoord | there isn't anything done for a regular user |
| 13:48.38 | Captnoord | only for dev's |
| 13:48.54 | hd2user | ok, iam no user iam an admin :P |
| 13:49.01 | hd2user | just jokingly ^^ |
| 13:53.01 | NetRipper | shell via usb ssh will probably be attempted this weekend or so |
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| 13:53.20 | NetRipper | note the keyword "attempted" :) |
| 13:53.53 | hd2user | ssh shell will be perfect! because i hate touch keyboard ^^ |
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| 13:54.46 | hd2user | by the way netripper my upgrade to 10.04 worked pretty well^^ |
| 13:55.01 | NetRipper | hehe |
| 13:55.08 | NetRipper | mine failed but it recovered luckily |
| 13:55.27 | NetRipper | nvidia driver died during update, locking the system |
| 13:55.53 | hd2user | yeah, my problem -> installed nvidia prob. driver -> next boot -> black screen _._ |
| 13:56.01 | hd2user | but the update *thumbs up* |
| 13:56.07 | hd2user | lol^^ |
| 13:56.18 | hd2user | nvs 140 in my dell^^ |
| 13:56.54 | NetRipper | aha i have that on my laptop... can't get nvidia driver to work on that as the OEM decided to make a customized video bios that is not compatible with the regular nvidia drivers |
| 13:56.58 | NetRipper | only with the ones they release |
| 13:57.41 | hd2user | arrrg |
| 13:57.57 | hd2user | but one thing is really good @ 10.04 |
| 13:58.47 | hd2user | i need no own script for switching from multimonitoring <-> single monitor |
| 13:59.29 | hd2user | all things work automatically |
| 14:02.31 | hd2user | netripper do you know a tutorial/info page for getting started on android deving/scripting? i want to try it^^ |
| 14:03.52 | hd2user | iam using linux for long time and this is my affairs too....... so iam not a totally noob^^ |
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| 14:22.57 | [acl] | anyone? |
| 14:23.12 | hd2user | maybe^^ |
| 14:23.44 | [acl] | hd2 ? i dunno if you can help me :-p |
| 14:23.54 | phh | [acl]: ? |
| 14:24.03 | [acl] | hey phh. quick question |
| 14:24.23 | [acl] | is the dmesg wince address the same as the topaz for the rhod? |
| 14:24.29 | phh | yes |
| 14:25.19 | [acl] | Also the virtual to phys mem table confirmed to be the same too? |
| 14:25.37 | phh | ah no. |
| 14:26.12 | [acl] | can i do this in haret? |
| 14:27.19 | phh | yes |
| 14:27.20 | phh | dump mmu |
| 14:28.00 | [acl] | i got ahi2dati.dll to load in a custom app and im trying to trace down what it does. Very close .. i just need to see if i can get at least a pixel to show up. |
| 14:32.08 | [acl] | phh: any other news on jonpry and sound? |
| 14:34.27 | spetrillo | phh: will it be listed on the commits when the whitestone machineid is added in as a copy of topaz? We have updated registration to htcwhitestone now. |
| 14:39.30 | phh | [acl]: no |
| 14:39.41 | [acl] | booo |
| 14:40.38 | phh | [acl]: he wanted to speak to DAC by hand, he might be still working on that. |
| 14:40.58 | [acl] | phh: by hand?.. thats hardcore |
| 14:41.25 | phh | [acl]: you think ? :p |
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| 15:49.55 | Captnoord | okey |
| 15:49.59 | Captnoord | testing my ril mods |
| 15:49.59 | phh | chamonix: they did it \o/ |
| 15:50.03 | Captnoord | oO |
| 15:50.12 | Captnoord | what ? |
| 15:50.18 | phh | Captnoord: remote intents |
| 15:50.24 | Captnoord | k |
| 15:52.05 | Captnoord | okey it fuxked up |
| 15:52.06 | Captnoord | lol |
| 15:52.15 | Captnoord | ril dead |
| 15:52.16 | Captnoord | okey |
| 15:52.28 | phh | V8 |
| 15:52.29 | phh | at least. |
| 15:52.33 | Captnoord | hehe |
| 15:52.38 | Captnoord | I know |
| 15:52.41 | Captnoord | heared that yesterday |
| 15:52.45 | Captnoord | rad* |
| 15:53.20 | Captnoord | read* |
| 15:53.21 | Captnoord | bleh |
| 15:53.52 | Captnoord | phh in my total noobness I checked out the 'normal' android repo |
| 15:53.54 | Captnoord | using repo |
| 15:54.09 | Captnoord | but of course I dono if I should look for settings or so |
| 15:54.16 | Captnoord | or set it to build for 2.0.1 |
| 15:54.18 | Captnoord | or something |
| 15:54.18 | Captnoord | nah |
| 15:54.19 | Captnoord | brb |
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| 16:01.11 | spetrillo | Afternoon all. |
| 16:01.32 | phh | spetrillo: no talk here. google I/O now. listening. |
| 16:03.12 | obrienmd_sea1 | froyo info really exciting for aging msm72xx devices, right? jvm perf increase, browser js perf increase? |
| 16:03.25 | phh | obrienmd_sea1: the problem will be memory |
| 16:03.26 | phh | perhaps. |
| 16:03.29 | obrienmd_sea1 | ah |
| 16:03.49 | obrienmd_sea1 | droid is 256mb right? |
| 16:03.50 | stinebd | we've already seen the jit performance increase |
| 16:04.53 | obrienmd_sea1 | stinebd: already seen? as in the news stories, or someone has hacked this up into donut/eclair? |
| 16:05.19 | stinebd | obrienmd_sea1: eclair has JIT available, which can be enabled via a buildspec flag |
| 16:05.59 | obrienmd_sea1 | ah. is it enabled in your aosp 2.1 build? |
| 16:06.19 | stinebd | probably not in the public ones |
| 16:06.36 | stinebd | because of some of the low mem targets |
| 16:06.43 | obrienmd_sea1 | ah |
| 16:06.49 | obrienmd_sea1 | I see |
| 16:06.50 | stinebd | iirc i built it without jit |
| 16:07.16 | obrienmd_sea1 | does it show performance gains when built with? |
| 16:07.26 | stinebd | yes |
| 16:07.28 | obrienmd_sea1 | given rhod / topaz have same ram as droid... I think? |
| 16:07.30 | stinebd | significant gains |
| 16:07.33 | obrienmd_sea1 | cool |
| 16:08.13 | stinebd | but it doesn't make the app drawer scroll smoothly |
| 16:08.22 | obrienmd_sea1 | lol |
| 16:08.33 | obrienmd_sea1 | not so worried about app drawer |
| 16:09.04 | obrienmd_sea1 | most looking forward to efficiency++, so battery use--.... I hope |
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| 16:21.13 | domi007 | hey guys |
| 16:21.20 | domi007 | quick question |
| 16:21.53 | domi007 | there is a guy on XDA-developers who is making quite a progress in porting the 2.6.32 kernel to the HTC Universal |
| 16:22.12 | domi007 | so now he is so far, that we are thinking about setting up a kernel git-tree |
| 16:22.31 | domi007 | and I think the best would be to create a new branch in Mobile Linux at linuxtogo.org |
| 16:22.42 | domi007 | so I need someone who has access to that |
| 16:22.54 | domi007 | like an administrator |
| 16:23.19 | domi007 | phh, you know anyone from the admins? |
| 16:23.28 | phh | domi007: dcordes I think |
| 16:23.44 | domi007 | you know how can I reach him? |
| 16:24.48 | phh | here |
| 16:24.49 | phh | but not now |
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| 16:25.44 | domi007 | yeah i see |
| 16:25.46 | domi007 | thanx anyway |
| 16:25.47 | domi007 | bye |
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| 17:08.17 | Captnoord | hmmmm doing logcat on radio |
| 17:08.21 | Captnoord | maybe it gets me some info |
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| 17:09.53 | Captnoord | oi |
| 17:09.59 | Wout | oi |
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| 17:23.59 | stinebd | phh: with latest rootfs and kernel, and the released system image, i'm not getting any freezes with gps |
| 17:24.05 | stinebd | but i don't get a fix either |
| 17:24.48 | Captnoord | stinebd: have you tested the last patch? |
| 17:24.58 | Captnoord | regarding winmo power stuff on ril |
| 17:25.03 | stinebd | Captnoord: i haven't seen the patch. |
| 17:25.22 | Captnoord | http://gitorious.org/linux-on-qualcomm-s-msm/android-htc-ril/commit/35d43a3447d1f91d9a7ff0c270dc229a25ada9ab |
| 17:25.23 | stinebd | what does it do? |
| 17:25.51 | Captnoord | nah it would possible bring the radio in the correct sleep state |
| 17:26.09 | Captnoord | saving a couple of more mA on the battery |
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| 17:26.39 | stinebd | i wonder why the build bot didn't pick that up |
| 17:26.56 | bzo | Captnoord: did you find out if cdma has it too? |
| 17:27.05 | Captnoord | cdma is very different |
| 17:27.08 | Captnoord | not yet |
| 17:27.24 | stinebd | Captnoord: is there a percentage of improvement expected? or don't know? |
| 17:27.26 | Captnoord | but I have checked |
| 17:27.32 | Captnoord | stinebd: I don't know |
| 17:27.36 | Captnoord | i'm debugging my own changes now |
| 17:27.41 | Captnoord | but hit some wall |
| 17:27.43 | Captnoord | lol |
| 17:27.47 | Captnoord | adb doesn't work |
| 17:27.49 | Captnoord | maybe I should reboot |
| 17:27.49 | Captnoord | brb |
| 17:27.56 | bzo | Captnoord: k, thanks for looking |
| 17:31.07 | phh | stinebd: logcat ? |
| 17:31.26 | phh | stinebd: logcat |grep Received ? |
| 17:31.51 | stinebd | ok but it's gonna be long |
| 17:31.54 | stinebd | i left it running forever |
| 17:32.18 | stinebd | $ git push git@gitorious-auto:xdandroid-eclair/eclair-rootfs.git | Permission denied (publickey). |
| 17:32.19 | stinebd | bah |
| 17:32.36 | stinebd | that could do it |
| 17:33.03 | stinebd | come on gitorious |
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| 17:33.38 | phh | stinebd: hehe |
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| 17:34.11 | stinebd | why is it always down |
| 17:35.21 | stinebd | http://maduin.southcape.org/~bryan/android/gps-received.log |
| 17:35.28 | stinebd | i stopped logging before shutting down gps |
| 17:35.36 | stinebd | and i probably stopped gps some time in the middle there |
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| 17:36.10 | ghostdeini | hello I wanted to try my hand at decompiling the audio driver for the rhodium. Is the correct file wavedrv.dll? |
| 17:36.25 | phh | ghostdeini: yup |
| 17:36.48 | phh | stinebd: sounds like wrong reception ? |
| 17:36.48 | Captnoord | good luck at decompiling |
| 17:37.02 | stinebd | well it's not my fault |
| 17:37.06 | stinebd | i'm outside and it's sunny |
| 17:37.16 | stinebd | pollution maybe? |
| 17:37.51 | Captnoord | noise |
| 17:37.51 | phh | stinebd: got a fix in wimo before booting ? |
| 17:37.56 | stinebd | nah |
| 17:37.59 | stinebd | i don't bother with winmo |
| 17:38.17 | stinebd | if it doesn't work without winmo, it doesn't work ;) |
| 17:38.58 | phh | do you have QuickGPS updated on wimo at least ? |
| 17:39.02 | stinebd | why is git push suddenly not working for the build bot? |
| 17:39.09 | stinebd | probably not |
| 17:39.15 | Captnoord | stinebd: its because that git repo is borked |
| 17:39.25 | stinebd | how is it borked? |
| 17:39.29 | ghostdeini | I'm having some trouble finding wavedrv.dll, any hints on locating it? |
| 17:39.35 | Captnoord | it didn't had a HEAD |
| 17:39.38 | Captnoord | I think phh fixed that |
| 17:39.45 | Captnoord | but in a way fuxored your bot |
| 17:39.46 | stinebd | eclair-rootfs? |
| 17:39.55 | phh | stinebd: right we really need QuickGPS info from wimo |
| 17:40.01 | Captnoord | hmmmm |
| 17:40.04 | Captnoord | stinebd: good point |
| 17:40.22 | bzo | Android 2.2 SDK is live, wonder how long before AOSP? |
| 17:40.35 | stinebd | at least 90 days |
| 17:40.37 | stinebd | is my guess |
| 17:41.56 | [acl] | ghostdeini: Its not in the windows dir ? |
| 17:42.17 | ghostdeini | not that i could see... (using total commander) |
| 17:42.44 | bzo | stinebd: at least we already have jit, thanks to your build |
| 17:43.37 | ghostdeini | I see wapdrv.dll and waveapi.dll |
| 17:44.03 | bzo | hmm, the newest NDK now supports VFP and NEON |
| 17:44.15 | phh | bzo: it didn't before ? |
| 17:44.24 | bzo | release notes imply it didn't |
| 17:44.32 | bzo | http://developer.android.com/sdk/ndk/index.html |
| 17:44.49 | stinebd | lol |
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| 17:44.50 | stinebd | well whatever |
| 17:44.56 | phh | ghostdeini: sorry it's wavedev.dll |
| 17:44.57 | stinebd | gitorious screwed up |
| 17:45.02 | stinebd | i re-added its ssh key and it's working now |
| 17:45.03 | bzo | sounds like they are now just supporting armeabi-v7 |
| 17:45.34 | phh | bzo: kwaak3 does have support for neon |
| 17:45.35 | stinebd | Captnoord: your ril was built on monday but it will be added in the next rootfs update window |
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| 17:46.51 | [acl] | ghostdeini: im looking at the regitry now. Wavedev uses a file called btcedrivers.dll .. |
| 17:48.03 | bzo | phh: looks like kwaak3 isn't compiled with the standard v3 NDK |
| 17:48.10 | phh | bzo: ah right. |
| 17:50.40 | stinebd | well looks like it did freeze my phone eventually |
| 17:50.45 | stinebd | damn, should've left logcat running |
| 17:50.53 | phh | lol |
| 17:51.04 | Captnoord | stinebd: I want to know if it fucks up anything |
| 17:51.11 | stinebd | oh, you'll know |
| 17:51.22 | stinebd | the hordes of angry xda users will tip you off |
| 17:51.46 | [acl] | ghostdeini: This is all i have. |
| 17:51.50 | stinebd | xdandroid: New rootfs available (20100520-55f70ed) at: http://is.gd/chMww -- Changes at: http://is.gd/chMwv |
| 17:52.34 | Captnoord | lol |
| 17:52.37 | Captnoord | cheers |
| 17:52.41 | [acl] | WAV1: \windows\btcedrivers.dll (169472) |
| 17:52.42 | [acl] | WAV8: \windows\bta2dp.dll (55690) |
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| 17:53.26 | phh | [acl]: why do you care about BT sound output ? |
| 17:55.53 | [acl] | phh: i dont.. just showing ghostdeni what the driver enumeration for sound is on the rhod. |
| 17:56.01 | [acl] | phh: im all bout 3d :-p |
| 17:56.06 | phh | ok |
| 17:56.49 | obrienmd_sea1 | [acl]: how go the 3d travails? |
| 17:56.49 | stinebd | i hate the preparing sd card alert every time i boot my n1 |
| 17:57.15 | phh | stinebd: oh you too ? |
| 17:57.23 | phh | the worst thing being that I've no clue what he does with it. |
| 17:57.38 | stinebd | i really don't care what it does with it |
| 17:57.43 | stinebd | i got that sd card for free anyway |
| 17:57.45 | stinebd | just shut up about it |
| 17:57.55 | stinebd | most worthless alert ever |
| 17:58.07 | stinebd | except for maybe the usb debugging one |
| 17:59.02 | stinebd | whines a lot instead of fixing it in aosp |
| 17:59.44 | [acl] | obrienmd_sea1: Its been a pain trying to understand wince and memory management. I'm able to load the hard ware driver directly. hopefully i have something to show soon. |
| 18:02.12 | obrienmd_sea1 | [acl]: cool, thanks for the update... I keep thinking I'll have time to start hacking away, but long days in the office preclude |
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| 18:04.03 | obrienmd_sea1 | Captnoord, stinebd: New rootfs working great on sprint rhod400, gps, phone, data all working fine here |
| 18:04.29 | obrienmd_sea1 | w/ latest balsat.hopto non-debug kernel |
| 18:04.42 | Captnoord | obrienmd_sea1: i'm interested in the battery time |
| 18:04.52 | Captnoord | as the changes I made could influence it |
| 18:04.55 | stinebd | well the fact that phone and data work are encouraging ;) |
| 18:05.03 | stinebd | is encouraging |
| 18:05.15 | stinebd | my englishes are bad |
| 18:05.15 | obrienmd_sea1 | will let you know on battery life, just wanted to let you know it didn't mess anything up :) |
| 18:05.51 | stinebd | i'm waiting for another freeze here, hopefully logcat will reveal something |
| 18:05.57 | stinebd | in like an hour |
| 18:06.38 | stinebd | phh: the good news is it looks like we've got no conflicts between rootfs and aosp release version numbers like we did with ril |
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| 18:15.58 | Wout | Captnoord: whats the power fix in rootfs about? |
| 18:16.56 | phh | Wout: data idle |
| 18:17.02 | phh | mostly |
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| 18:24.14 | hd2user | here iam^^ |
| 18:25.29 | chamonix | [17:49:59] PUBMSG #htc-linux: <= phh> chamonix: they did it \o/ <--- u mean new SDK? |
| 18:25.53 | phh | chamonix: I mean the remote intent stuff |
| 18:25.59 | chamonix | \o/ |
| 18:26.00 | phh | and you're using telnet or what ? |
| 18:26.09 | phh | ah no not for PUBMSG. |
| 18:26.10 | chamonix | they were reading here, I'm sure :-D |
| 18:26.31 | chamonix | phh: no, it's my irssi and some home-made perl script |
| 18:27.19 | chamonix | I receive tons of message and like to know if it's CTCP, PRIVMSG, PUBMSG, NOTICE, etc |
| 18:30.02 | chamonix | Captnoord: I havent found a way to get over 12 hours with SIM and 3G using my std settings on 2.1, wit 2.0.1 it used to be 14-16 hours so I'll need to do more regression testing |
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| 18:55.34 | stinebd | phh: http://maduin.southcape.org/~bryan/android/gps-freeze.log |
| 18:55.41 | stinebd | looks like it crashes android completely |
| 18:55.57 | stinebd | i dont see anything useful there though |
| 18:56.01 | phh | stinebd: which rootfs ? |
| 18:56.12 | stinebd | phh: latest - 1 |
| 18:56.22 | phh | stinebd: meeeeeeeeehhhhhh |
| 18:56.28 | phh | stinebd: is your libhardware_legacy up to date ? |
| 18:56.37 | stinebd | should be |
| 18:56.49 | phh | can you recheck that ? |
| 18:56.54 | phh | if it is, i'll be in BIG troubles. |
| 18:56.56 | stinebd | waiting for gitorious |
| 18:57.48 | stinebd | phh: was your last commit may 13th? |
| 18:57.53 | stinebd | god damn gitorious |
| 18:57.55 | stinebd | always down |
| 18:57.58 | phh | no, 14th |
| 18:58.15 | stinebd | commit 92e94a67e155f0c1fd5794793cc24c71862b36f5 Author: HUSSON Pierre-Hugues <phhusson@free.fr> |
| 18:58.15 | stinebd | Date: Thu May 13 20:16:21 2010 +0200 |
| 18:58.15 | stinebd | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:58.21 | phh | fiou |
| 18:58.26 | phh | so that's normal it crashes |
| 18:58.42 | phh | commit e83236f3bb51dbb8c7acfddb6d2c9c17a06da25d |
| 18:58.42 | phh | Author: HUSSON Pierre-Hugues <phhusson@free.fr> |
| 18:58.42 | phh | Date: Fri May 14 14:32:37 2010 +0200 |
| 18:58.42 | phh | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:58.44 | phh | that's last one |
| 18:58.52 | phh | did I pushed ? :D |
| 18:59.02 | stinebd | who knows |
| 18:59.07 | stinebd | gitorious is 503 |
| 18:59.18 | stinebd | git pull says already up to date |
| 18:59.24 | phh | git push says |
| 18:59.25 | phh | well |
| 18:59.26 | phh | nothing. |
| 18:59.47 | phh | argh |
| 18:59.55 | phh | only apps that accept are exportable to SD |
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| 19:02.56 | phh | stinebd: I've heard V8 has already been pushed can we get it ?:D |
| 19:03.07 | stinebd | v8? in webkit? |
| 19:03.25 | phh | in android's browser |
| 19:03.44 | stinebd | phh: you definitely didn't push that :D |
| 19:03.53 | phh | stinebd: ok |
| 19:03.56 | phh | I'll try to push. |
| 19:04.09 | stinebd | always blaming my build bots for everything |
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| 19:05.10 | phh | well I more thought of some sort of incompatibility somewhere |
| 19:05.13 | stinebd | who told you v8's been pushed already? |
| 19:05.14 | phh | it pushed |
| 19:05.15 | phh | it pushed ! |
| 19:05.22 | phh | stinebd: some people on #android |
| 19:05.27 | phh | it failed. |
| 19:05.37 | stinebd | you have to stop listening to these random people |
| 19:05.40 | phh | /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/timeout.rb:54:in `rbuf_fill': execution expired (Timeout::Error) |
| 19:05.40 | phh | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:05.40 | phh | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:05.41 | phh | SURE. |
| 19:05.52 | stinebd | wtf |
| 19:06.07 | phh | it pushed but failed at pre receive hook oO |
| 19:06.09 | phh | so it didn't push |
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| 19:08.17 | phh | groumpf, the 2.2 SDK browser doesn't even have flash. |
| 19:10.02 | bzo | I think adobe is including that part, and it is closed |
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| 19:18.52 | hax0r | hello |
| 19:19.12 | hax0r | is there still some one who work on htc hermes? |
| 19:19.24 | ghostdeini_ | hey sorry for the noob question but i cant copy wavedev using resco or total commander, is there some trick? |
| 19:20.11 | phh | ghostdeini_: google topaz oemdrivers |
| 19:21.24 | ghostdeini_ | pph: thank you! |
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| 19:22.15 | stinebd | phh: gitorious should be pushable now |
| 19:22.22 | b_w_johan | Good evening :) |
| 19:24.09 | b_w_johan | I was reading on XDA-Developers about linux/android on the HTC Magician/MDA Compact |
| 19:25.24 | b_w_johan | Hmmm, well thats awquard :D total silence and a huge nicklist :D |
| 19:26.23 | phh | stinebd: pushing |
| 19:26.25 | phh | pushed. |
| 19:26.26 | hamagc | shh... the noise hurts my ears. |
| 19:26.34 | b_w_johan | :) |
| 19:26.36 | phh | hamagc: stop listeing |
| 19:26.40 | hamagc | lol |
| 19:27.37 | b_w_johan | For a schoolproject we have to make an Android application :D |
| 19:27.45 | phh | that's so sad |
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| 19:28.20 | b_w_johan | Not really :) the only sad thing about it is that i don't have $500 for some Android telephone:D |
| 19:28.38 | b_w_johan | so i'm trying to know more about linux/android on mobile telephones :) |
| 19:28.46 | stinebd | phh: thanks |
| 19:28.58 | hamagc | so what brings you here? |
| 19:29.00 | phh | b_w_johan: first android prices are <$200 |
| 19:29.05 | phh | b_w_johan: and there is an emulator |
| 19:29.25 | b_w_johan | okee maybe i'm overpricing it, but for a student it feels like that much haha |
| 19:29.45 | b_w_johan | well the emulator doesn't feel like a real test |
| 19:30.02 | b_w_johan | its very slow for starters and well, i'd like to see my app run on a real telephone :D |
| 19:31.03 | b_w_johan | But the idea was, i'm going to try and run linux on my telephone but i'm very new to telephones and OS updates |
| 19:31.11 | hamagc | interesting... on http://glemsom.anapnea.net/android2/htc-msm-android/ i see 2 updates from 5/20/10. on http://glemsom.anapnea.net/android/htc-msm-android/ i see the last update was on 518/2010. |
| 19:32.13 | b_w_johan | So i was hoping for more information :) |
| 19:32.14 | hamagc | the 2 on http://glemsom.anapnea.net/android2/htc-msm-android/ from today says same revision, no changes found. |
| 19:32.56 | b_w_johan | I was reading the XDA forum a bit but apearently the default is "android doesn't run on youre telephone" and it doesn't even mather what kind of brand you mention haha |
| 19:33.28 | hamagc | b_w_johan: what phone do you have now? |
| 19:33.53 | b_w_johan | I have a MDA Compact, and a MDA II |
| 19:34.01 | b_w_johan | HTC magician / himalaya |
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| 19:34.53 | b_w_johan | but if you search a bit deeper in the older topics you see that there where/are some tests to run linux |
| 19:35.22 | b_w_johan | but apearently its really hard/timeconsuming to invest time to fix issues with missing (key)features |
| 19:36.02 | hamagc | ya i don't know anyone thats focusing on those phones for an android port. |
| 19:36.22 | b_w_johan | jup, most recent updates where halfway 2009 |
| 19:36.58 | b_w_johan | and then it was mostly just asking if any development was happening cause the topic starter disapeared and stuff like that haha |
| 19:37.32 | b_w_johan | but I have loads of sparetime and interest in Android |
| 19:37.55 | b_w_johan | so if i get some basic info/websites on where to start reading i'm very eager to continue where they left off |
| 19:39.10 | b_w_johan | XDA forum well shows only progress but not really intell on what they did to get to that point |
| 19:39.51 | stinebd | xdandroid: New rootfs available (20100520-0ee4071) at: http://is.gd/chTiW -- Changes at: http://is.gd/chTiU |
| 19:40.01 | phh | stinebd: you'll post that automatically ? |
| 19:40.06 | stinebd | no |
| 19:40.21 | phh | pff |
| 19:40.23 | phh | it would be fun. |
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| 19:45.02 | b_w_johan | thats odd :S i expected some private messagingsystem to apear with DCC>Chat ? |
| 19:45.57 | b_w_johan | hmmm guess i'm not used to IRC :D haha the only chatsystem i've used before is MSN and DC++ |
| 19:50.17 | stinebd | nice, got a fix |
| 19:50.18 | stinebd | even without sd |
| 19:50.20 | stinebd | err sim |
| 19:50.33 | stinebd | definitely not without sd |
| 19:51.06 | b_w_johan | :) |
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| 19:53.19 | phh | stinebd: yes it seems to me that the only thing needed to have <1minute fix is QuickGPS |
| 19:53.44 | stinebd | when will it figure out that i've gone back inside and it no longer has a fix? |
| 19:54.05 | phh | hehe |
| 19:54.15 | phh | stinebd: doesn't it give you 1 km off values ? :p |
| 19:54.24 | stinebd | no, it's pretty close |
| 19:54.38 | phh | huhu |
| 19:54.41 | stinebd | it did stop updating when i went inside though |
| 19:54.53 | phh | once it (gps!) gave me a position that was 1km off |
| 19:54.57 | phh | that was funny to see. |
| 19:55.06 | phh | while tower cell give me a position with less than 200 meters error. |
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| 19:56.34 | stinebd | well nobody should be complaining about freezes anymore |
| 19:57.12 | stinebd | just gotta figure out that phantom boot loop |
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| 20:01.17 | Unholy | hello |
| 20:03.34 | phh | stinebd: didn't we said it's because of some apps in system.sqsh that doesn't fit JIT ? |
| 20:04.31 | stinebd | phh: we were most likely mistaken. i'm pretty sure my kitchen base doesn't have JIT in it |
| 20:04.45 | phh | stinebd: I'm pretty sure it has it ... |
| 20:04.51 | phh | hum |
| 20:04.52 | phh | no. |
| 20:05.13 | stinebd | `~/adb logcat | grep arena` would tell you |
| 20:05.25 | stinebd | well ~/ for me |
| 20:05.26 | stinebd | heh |
| 20:06.00 | phh | arena ? |
| 20:06.29 | stinebd | every so often, the JIT compiler will spew information about arena pages |
| 20:07.11 | stinebd | of course that message probably also has the word JIT in it too |
| 20:07.12 | stinebd | so... |
| 20:07.47 | stinebd | anyway the concern was that targets with lower memory would'nt be able to handle JIT |
| 20:07.54 | stinebd | wouldn't |
| 20:08.18 | phh | well I didn't try |
| 20:08.35 | stinebd | it uses close to 35MB more ram just after boot, on my raph |
| 20:08.57 | phh | ah. |
| 20:08.57 | phh | right. |
| 20:09.03 | phh | yeah but no that means nothing ... |
| 20:09.17 | phh | android is capable of more gc-ing if needed |
| 20:09.53 | stinebd | yeah but it's not very graceful in such a low memory case, you'd end up having a lot of those "Keyboard not responding" fc/wait dialogs at boot |
| 20:12.00 | phh | perhaps |
| 20:12.28 | stinebd | i could build one for you with JIT if you'd like |
| 20:12.42 | stinebd | since i believe you have such a phone with puny memory |
| 20:13.38 | stinebd | if it doesn't melt to your hand then we can release it |
| 20:13.40 | b_w_johan | okee, well thx for the chat. |
| 20:13.47 | b_w_johan | Maybe i'll talk to you guys later :) |
| 20:13.49 | b_w_johan | bye bye |
| 20:14.00 | b_w_johan | oh before i leave |
| 20:14.15 | b_w_johan | is there a way to bookmark this chat so it opens the next time i start IRC ? |
| 20:14.20 | b_w_johan | (new to IRC) |
| 20:14.43 | phh | it depends on your IRC client |
| 20:14.47 | b_w_johan | mIRC |
| 20:15.01 | bzo | stinebd: you did put out a jit build earlier, no? |
| 20:15.16 | stinebd | an aosp only build, i think |
| 20:15.25 | stinebd | ie no google apps |
| 20:15.27 | stinebd | or anything useful |
| 20:15.41 | b_w_johan | okee well thanks anyway bye |
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| 20:16.07 | bzo | stinebd: hmm, thought I was running it, I guess only one way to find out |
| 20:16.14 | stinebd | logcat | grep JIT |
| 20:16.20 | stinebd | or grep arena |
| 20:16.27 | bzo | yep, booting now |
| 20:17.48 | Unholy | hey phh was wondering if you been working on donut to get hw3d and latest zimage/rootfs working for it, im eagerd to test it with the new comits |
| 20:18.22 | phh | Unholy: still not |
| 20:20.02 | stinebd | the donuts are stale |
| 20:20.05 | Unholy | i see hav you guys tried launcher pro, it runs like butter on xdandroid |
| 20:20.18 | bzo | stinebd: ok, I guess I'm going crazy, I'm not running the jit build |
| 20:20.25 | phh | Unholy: pff do it yourself |
| 20:20.27 | phh | it's easy and boring |
| 20:20.30 | Unholy | i have |
| 20:20.36 | stinebd | bzo: jit is reserved for a few special folks |
| 20:20.38 | Unholy | im just leting you guys know |
| 20:20.46 | Unholy | it way faster than default one |
| 20:20.46 | stinebd | in fact, one special folk who forgot to release it to everyone else |
| 20:21.01 | phh | stinebd: lol |
| 20:22.26 | stinebd | bah |
| 20:22.36 | stinebd | phh: we really need to fix that libh_l repo |
| 20:22.47 | stinebd | so i can add it to repo manifest |
| 20:24.01 | phh | stinebd: hum, HEAD = master |
| 20:24.03 | phh | it seems fine to me |
| 20:24.06 | stinebd | phh: no no, not that |
| 20:24.12 | phh | ah |
| 20:24.27 | stinebd | when you clone it, there's libhardware_legacy/libhardware_legacy/... |
| 20:24.36 | phh | ah that. |
| 20:24.41 | phh | blame it on [acl] :p |
| 20:24.49 | phh | ok wait a second. |
| 20:25.09 | stinebd | let me know when you do it because it'll break the build bot |
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| 20:26.21 | rafyvitto | hey guys |
| 20:26.34 | stinebd | i assume that if you mv * .., it'll retain the history |
| 20:27.06 | phh | if I do it properly. |
| 20:27.21 | bzo | wishes I was at Google I/O |
| 20:27.23 | phh | but I started badly. |
| 20:27.25 | phh | bzo: hehe |
| 20:27.30 | bzo | just read they gave free EVOs to everyone |
| 20:27.38 | rafyvitto | so phh how you liking the acer liquid, only thing i hate about mine its the shitty onboard gpu =] |
| 20:27.40 | bzo | I think they also got free n1s before the conference |
| 20:27.43 | stinebd | yes, there was a huge cheer when they announced it |
| 20:28.02 | phh | rafyvitto: shitty gpu ?!? |
| 20:28.09 | rafyvitto | thats why im selling it xD |
| 20:28.17 | phh | rafyvitto: ?!? |
| 20:28.23 | phh | rafyvitto: it's the same gpu as nexus one |
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| 20:28.53 | rafyvitto | yes the exact same one as any qsd82xx device |
| 20:29.01 | phh | and that's what you call shitty oO |
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| 20:29.11 | rafyvitto | oh yes |
| 20:29.12 | rafyvitto | =] |
| 20:29.30 | phh | rafyvitto: you're running android 1.6 or what ? |
| 20:30.16 | phh | (android 1.6 rom has shitty opengles 2.) |
| 20:31.51 | stinebd | phh: http://maduin.southcape.org/~bryan/android/0001-Move-everything-so-that-this-can-be-used-within-an-A.patch |
| 20:31.54 | stinebd | to make it easy on you ;) |
| 20:33.13 | stinebd | wait don't use that |
| 20:33.17 | stinebd | :D |
| 20:33.37 | phh | lol |
| 20:40.51 | stinebd | http://maduin.southcape.org/~bryan/android/0001-Move-everything-so-that-this-can-be-used-within-an-A.patch |
| 20:40.53 | stinebd | theeere we go |
| 20:43.21 | [acl] | phh: blame it on [acl] :p <------- I forgot why i did it that way ? mah bad fellas. |
| 20:43.34 | phh | stinebd: pushed |
| 20:43.43 | stinebd | ok, let's watch it crash gitorious |
| 20:45.10 | phh | chamonix: anyway google's system is still closed |
| 20:45.13 | phh | so your stuff would still be used |
| 20:46.47 | chamonix | :) |
| 20:47.18 | stinebd | ok good |
| 20:47.50 | chamonix | phh: do u feel a difference from 14-16 down to 12 hours can be explained only by eclair 2.1 vs. 2.0.1? |
| 20:48.09 | GNUtoo | hi phh any news on integration in gpsd? |
| 20:48.31 | phh | GNUtoo: yup, I stopped. |
| 20:48.35 | phh | GNUtoo: but you can do it by hand |
| 20:48.42 | phh | chamonix: I don't think so |
| 20:48.43 | GNUtoo | ok |
| 20:48.55 | GNUtoo | phh, so you won't integrate in gpsd? |
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| 20:49.15 | chamonix | hmmm, then I'm issing sumthin |
| 20:49.21 | chamonix | +m |
| 20:49.24 | GNUtoo | a by-hand would be soo nice |
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| 20:49.51 | phh | GNUtoo: you have a by-hand -_-' |
| 20:49.56 | phh | run test-gps |
| 20:50.00 | phh | and then gpsd /dev/smd27 |
| 20:50.01 | GNUtoo | it crashed at the end |
| 20:51.03 | phh | chamonix: http://code.google.com/p/chrometophone/ |
| 20:51.13 | phh | chamonix: use that as a basecode for some stuff with your own xmpp stuff :p |
| 20:51.19 | GNUtoo | phh, I'll retry |
| 20:51.30 | phh | GNUtoo: "at the end" ? |
| 20:51.34 | chamonix | ok, the result is obvious |
| 20:51.37 | chamonix | Analysed 793.6 minutes of logs |
| 20:51.37 | chamonix | Total sleep in that time was 588.6 minutes |
| 20:51.37 | chamonix | Ratio sleep/total 74.17% |
| 20:51.37 | chamonix | Occurence of sleeptime ranges (all values are in minutes) |
| 20:51.39 | chamonix | Sleeptime: 0 (89) ***************************************************************************************** |
| 20:51.43 | chamonix | Sleeptime: 5 (6) ****** |
| 20:51.45 | chamonix | Sleeptime: 10 (5) ***** |
| 20:51.47 | chamonix | Sleeptime: 15 (1) * |
| 20:51.50 | chamonix | Sleeptime: 20 (2) ** |
| 20:51.52 | GNUtoo | phh, just after having some fixes (note the s) |
| 20:51.52 | chamonix | Sleeptime: 30 (12) ************ |
| 20:52.00 | phh | GNUtoo: ah. |
| 20:52.03 | phh | chamonix: ah. |
| 20:52.46 | chamonix | a) no sleep longer than 30 minutes, + tons of wakeups after only a few minutes |
| 20:53.01 | phh | many mails ? |
| 20:53.04 | chamonix | there are tons of alarms being set |
| 20:53.06 | chamonix | no |
| 20:53.49 | chamonix | I'll turn off mail completely and remove background sync again to see if it changes sumthin |
| 20:54.28 | chamonix | gmaps loc is off and I don't have xmpp keepalives so I don't see what is settings alarams |
| 20:55.03 | phh | and have fun debugging that |
| 20:55.03 | chamonix | obviously there is some app misbehaving |
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| 20:55.12 | chamonix | I may try ur AOSP |
| 20:55.12 | phh | google market ? |
| 20:55.26 | chamonix | well, market should stop if I remove bg sync |
| 20:55.51 | phh | chamonix: anyway, XtreMPP, chrometophone, sounds possible ? :D |
| 20:56.08 | chamonix | I've taken out the best kernel I had with NOSIM |
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| 20:56.15 | chamonix | lol |
| 20:56.30 | chamonix | everything is possible..... |
| 20:57.36 | chamonix | how can I get a trace of what apps android starts without disturbing the test? |
| 20:58.04 | phh | I can code you something |
| 20:58.28 | chamonix | like what? |
| 20:58.45 | phh | like something that listen for all fork() |
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| 20:59.17 | chamonix | isn't there a way to have the loader log that? |
| 20:59.25 | phh | loader ? |
| 20:59.27 | phh | ah |
| 20:59.27 | phh | no clue |
| 20:59.39 | chamonix | well, whatever part of android deciding to load apps |
| 21:00.13 | chamonix | I really have the feeling there is an app that has a crappy behavious, like e.g. voicedial that keeps loading all the time |
| 21:01.17 | chamonix | it's obvious that when SIM is in and 3G enabled alarams are set every 30 minutes or less..... but by whom? |
| 21:01.41 | phh | well 30minutes it's tcp timeouts |
| 21:01.58 | phh | but that's not what gives you 74%of sleep |
| 21:02.47 | chamonix | ok that would be for the max, but look at this: http://pastebin.org/259157 |
| 21:03.55 | chamonix | expected is the time to next alarm |
| 21:04.25 | jummama | hey, I have a quick kernel question... does anyone know if using led triggers in the kernel would interfere with power management with android? I renamed button-backlight to btn-backlight in board-trout.c on my copy of cm-kernel, and it seems to work, but I'm a kernel n00b, lol |
| 21:04.29 | phh | chamonix: in minutes ? |
| 21:04.39 | chamonix | yes |
| 21:05.27 | phh | so it never reaches it |
| 21:05.43 | phh | oh wait it does sometime |
| 21:05.55 | phh | chamonix: well there are tcp time outs on the other side too |
| 21:06.00 | chamonix | yes it does but the time is always short compared to NOSIM |
| 21:06.27 | chamonix | e.g. Sleeptime: 2010-05-15 12:13:36.610000000 UTC -> 2010-05-15 17:30:03.780000000 UTC (316.5), expected was 646.4 |
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| 21:07.11 | chamonix | ok, now 3G is on but there is no sync or bg sync enabled any my mail client is completely disabled |
| 21:07.38 | chamonix | means either it changes or an app does not stick to the rules and uses 3G even if it's not allowed to |
| 21:07.51 | zsircusr | hey, anyone here could help me adding a new branch to the mobile linux project on linuxtogo.org git-tree?:) |
| 21:08.59 | chamonix | if it is like I suspect I want to pin down that app and crusk the dev |
| 21:09.06 | chamonix | s/sk/sh |
| 21:09.12 | jummama | sorry about the android related question, it's just that afaik, the led trigger codepaths aren't usually used with android, so I thought I should ask here |
| 21:10.31 | chamonix | I feel I need to dig into the declaration of available apps and rights they have |
| 21:11.13 | chamonix | if I can't deinstall them I can at least revoke their rights to use the 3G connection |
| 21:11.26 | phh | chamonix: we can do such stuff ? |
| 21:11.55 | chamonix | I bumbed into an XML with perms for each app one time but I can't remember where it was |
| 21:12.48 | chamonix | I just need to remember the context but I blieve it was when I was looking for the reason one of the dev apps kept crashing |
| 21:13.10 | zsircusr | anyone knows dcordes' email address or any other way I can reach him? |
| 21:13.15 | chamonix | I'll extract system.sqsh and grep it |
| 21:14.33 | chamonix | basically that XML was a digest of all app manifests |
| 21:14.55 | chamonix | http://mdzlog.alcor.net/2010/01/31/fix-broken-android-permissions-by-re-installing-apps/ |
| 21:14.59 | chamonix | \o/ |
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| 21:15.13 | chamonix | /data/system/packages.xml |
| 21:15.36 | chamonix | grepping system would have been a bad idea :) |
| 21:16.26 | chamonix | I'll try to delete all android.permission.INTERNET and look what apps crash in logcat |
| 21:17.15 | zsircusr | phh, don't you have administrator permissions on the linuxtogo git server? |
| 21:18.43 | phh | zsircusr: I don't think so |
| 21:19.17 | rhodium-domi007 | phh, you can commit, can't you? could you create a new branch? |
| 21:19.35 | phh | I could, but why would I do that ? |
| 21:20.14 | rhodium-domi007 | because we have a kernel porting started for the HTC Universal (htc-pxa) |
| 21:20.51 | rhodium-domi007 | and a git server would be needed to share and test the code |
| 21:21.08 | GNUtoo | phh,it seem to fine this time,thanks a lot!!!! |
| 21:22.12 | phh | GNUtoo: well you can't stop GPS though. |
| 21:22.27 | GNUtoo | ok thanks a lot anyway |
| 21:22.28 | phh | GNUtoo: add a sleep(20) in a SIGHUP signal handler |
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| 21:22.35 | phh | it should worek |
| 21:22.37 | phh | -e |
| 21:23.13 | rhodium-domi007 | phh u see my point? |
| 21:23.16 | GNUtoo | ok |
| 21:23.42 | phh | rhodium-domi007: not at all. |
| 21:23.51 | phh | rhodium-domi007: I mean, I can create a branch but you wouldn't be able to use it |
| 21:24.01 | rhodium-domi007 | why not? |
| 21:24.05 | GNUtoo | phh, ctrl + c stops gps |
| 21:24.15 | phh | rhodium-domi007: because I can't give you any rights on it ? |
| 21:24.19 | phh | GNUtoo: and kills A9 ? |
| 21:24.23 | GNUtoo | no |
| 21:24.27 | phh | oO |
| 21:24.34 | rhodium-domi007 | okay, nevermind |
| 21:24.34 | GNUtoo | maybe I was just lucky |
| 21:25.49 | GNUtoo | phh, what's the license you license your source code? apache 2.0? gpl? |
| 21:25.56 | GNUtoo | for the test.c |
| 21:26.04 | phh | let's say public domain |
| 21:26.07 | stinebd | WTFPL |
| 21:26.27 | stinebd | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WTFPL |
| 21:26.36 | GNUtoo | ok |
| 21:26.47 | GNUtoo | phh, so MIT or cc-pd |
| 21:26.48 | GNUtoo | ? |
| 21:27.04 | phh | pff MIT then. |
| 21:27.05 | GNUtoo | cc-pd is a creative common public-domain license |
| 21:27.08 | GNUtoo | ok |
| 21:27.09 | GNUtoo | thanks |
| 21:27.26 | phh | but creative common is for creativity |
| 21:27.36 | stinebd | your aim is to destroy? |
| 21:28.11 | phh | lol |
| 21:28.13 | phh | yes. |
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| 21:33.52 | obrienmd_sea1 | stinebd: is there a publicly available system.sqsh w/ jit that *might* work with rhod400 for testing? |
| 21:34.06 | stinebd | obrienmd_sea1: not yet |
| 21:34.21 | obrienmd_sea1 | k |
| 21:40.58 | Captnoord | re |
| 21:50.29 | GNUtoo | I'll go to sleep bye |
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| 21:53.28 | Captnoord | http://pjottrr.no-ip.org:81/redmine/issues/show/89 |
| 21:53.31 | Captnoord | this one is fixed |
| 21:57.07 | Forsaken|GER | is away: Schlafen |
| 21:57.15 | obrienmd_sea1 | http://www.qualcomm.com/blog/2010/05/07/android-debugging-using-lauterbach-trace32-software |
| 21:57.43 | Zepiii | GL porting Android ! |
| 21:57.54 | Zepiii | My HD2 loves you ! ;) |
| 21:58.02 | Zepiii | Good night, exam 2morrow ! |
| 21:58.04 | Zepiii | see ya |
| 22:01.17 | Captnoord | stinebd: still no idea why 2.1 doesn't work on my raph? |
| 22:01.17 | Captnoord | :P |
| 22:02.27 | stinebd | Captnoord: why not try one of the system images here? http://xdandroid.southcape.org/ |
| 22:02.48 | stinebd | if those work, then the problem is probably in the release system image |
| 22:03.05 | Captnoord | possible |
| 22:03.08 | Captnoord | but I have tried that |
| 22:03.10 | stinebd | and therefore babijoee's fault |
| 22:03.13 | Captnoord | hehe |
| 22:03.18 | Captnoord | will try tomorrow |
| 22:03.25 | stinebd | you've tried one of those? |
| 22:03.39 | Captnoord | some time ago |
| 22:04.01 | Captnoord | but I should try it again just for fun |
| 22:05.31 | stinebd | anyway it's probably bad hardware |
| 22:05.36 | stinebd | 2.1 works fine on my nexus one |
| 22:05.50 | Captnoord | lol |
| 22:05.57 | Captnoord | obviousely |
| 22:07.12 | phh | same on my liquid |
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| 22:13.32 | stinebd | i find myself still using just three home screens |
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| 22:18.41 | dcordes | hi |
| 22:18.41 | dcordes | sorry for the wiki downage hope it will be back up soon |
| 22:20.55 | obrienmd_sea1 | speaking of sorry, dcordes see pm |
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