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| 14:12.30 | GNUtoo|laptop | hi mickeyl |
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| 14:13.07 | gauner1986 | hi everyone |
| 14:16.53 | AstainNotAway | hi |
| 14:17.24 | gauner1986 | so.. what's the status in linux kernel porting? probably missed a lot during my exam time :) |
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| 14:40.16 | LeTama | hello gauner! on HD2 side ? you didn't miss a lot, we're still stuck w |
| 14:40.26 | LeTama | with these segfaults |
| 14:40.30 | gauner1986 | LeTama: :( |
| 14:40.51 | LeTama | we even tried arm kernel guys, so far nothing on this front |
| 14:40.57 | gauner1986 | LeTama: seems that this is a never ending story.. |
| 14:41.27 | LeTama | yes :( |
| 14:41.40 | mickeyl | GNUtoo|laptop: yo |
| 14:41.43 | LeTama | you can look here: http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-arm-msm/msg00310.html |
| 14:41.52 | GNUtoo|laptop | mickeyl, hi |
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| 14:42.08 | GNUtoo|laptop | first could you ack or review my /etc/network/interfaces |
| 14:42.14 | GNUtoo|laptop | I need 2 acks |
| 14:42.28 | LeTama | I did a few reports on our mailing list too: http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/mobile-linux-discuss/2010-May/date.html#96 |
| 14:42.58 | mickeyl | done |
| 14:43.02 | GNUtoo|laptop | ok thanks |
| 14:43.39 | GNUtoo|laptop | mickeyl, then making a rin buffer from scratch would not be easy,I wonder which approach to use? maybe borrow the printk.c implementation? |
| 14:43.49 | GNUtoo|laptop | *ring |
| 14:43.55 | mickeyl | what do you need a ring buffer for? |
| 14:44.11 | GNUtoo|laptop | for the /proc/wakelocks_resume_reason thing |
| 14:44.23 | mickeyl | can't see why |
| 14:44.34 | mickeyl | there's no need to keep older data around |
| 14:44.35 | GNUtoo|laptop | ah so again error of communication |
| 14:44.40 | GNUtoo|laptop | nice!!! |
| 14:44.45 | GNUtoo|laptop | so I only print the last one |
| 14:44.48 | mickeyl | correct |
| 14:44.51 | GNUtoo|laptop | wow |
| 14:44.54 | GNUtoo|laptop | thanks a lot |
| 14:44.55 | mickeyl | simple as that :) |
| 14:45.05 | GNUtoo|laptop | I made a plan for designing a ring buffer from scratch etc.... |
| 14:45.16 | GNUtoo|laptop | looked at issues etc... |
| 14:45.23 | mickeyl | designing a ring buffer is a good excercise for every programmer, but i'm afraid it's overkill in this particular case :) |
| 14:45.29 | GNUtoo|laptop | indeed |
| 14:45.31 | GNUtoo|laptop | thanks a lot |
| 14:45.47 | GNUtoo|laptop | because there are implementations issues too like locking etc... |
| 14:45.52 | mickeyl | yep |
| 14:46.03 | gauner1986 | LeTama: a bad bush instruction? |
| 14:46.08 | LeTama | I ported few kernels, .34 , incredible, chromium, they all crashes the same way |
| 14:46.16 | mickeyl | btw., i don't understand the argument for proc vs. sysfs |
| 14:46.28 | mickeyl | sysfs sounds like the perfect place for this IMO |
| 14:46.49 | LeTama | no, it's not only pushes, it's probably process context switch or system calls |
| 14:46.53 | mickeyl | i don't care much, just being curious |
| 14:47.02 | mickeyl | (as long as there is _any_ place to get the data...) |
| 14:47.51 | gauner1986 | LeTama: mhm.. this is too low level for me... |
| 14:48.08 | GNUtoo|laptop | btw mickeyl I'll also gzip empty in the kenrel |
| 14:48.12 | GNUtoo|laptop | in the recipe |
| 14:48.17 | GNUtoo|laptop | it's highly necessary |
| 14:48.21 | LeTama | me too... |
| 14:48.22 | mickeyl | really? |
| 14:48.25 | mickeyl | never found any need |
| 14:48.29 | GNUtoo|laptop | else the bootloader won't boot the image in fastboot |
| 14:48.30 | mickeyl | what happens if you don't? |
| 14:48.35 | GNUtoo|laptop | you can flash it etc... |
| 14:48.36 | mickeyl | hmm, strange. that always worked for me |
| 14:48.40 | GNUtoo|laptop | it boots when flashed |
| 14:48.46 | GNUtoo|laptop | I've a carrier phone |
| 14:48.46 | mickeyl | but anyways it doesn't hurt, so just do it |
| 14:48.47 | GNUtoo|laptop | remember |
| 14:48.54 | mickeyl | ya, probably different bootloader i see |
| 14:48.59 | GNUtoo|laptop | indeed |
| 14:49.41 | gauner1986 | LeTama: too bad. i'd really like to see this going on.. |
| 14:50.37 | mickeyl | ok, i need to pack now |
| 14:50.44 | mickeyl | train to Berlin goes in an hour |
| 14:50.48 | mickeyl | bbl |
| 14:51.01 | LeTama | gauner: yes, me too. The most annoying thing is that we don't probably miss a lot. |
| 14:58.56 | gauner1986 | LeTama: yeah.. none of our pros seems to have a clue on this.. :) hope i don't have to buy an android-device at the end of the year xD |
| 14:59.09 | gauner1986 | i wouldn't have the joy of porting then |
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| 15:01.48 | LeTama | well, I still hope we will figure out something. I'm still searching, but the learning curve is high. |
| 15:02.14 | LeTama | Hopefully we'll get some answer from the qualcomm guy. |
| 15:03.16 | gauner1986 | yeah.. i saw some qualcomm guy in between.. that'd be nice :P |
| 15:04.09 | gauner1986 | what are you currently trying? |
| 15:04.50 | LeTama | right now, I'm was looking into wince nk/spl to see if I could find any init that could help us |
| 15:05.23 | LeTama | didn't find anything so far |
| 15:06.16 | gauner1986 | LeTama: so you're looking for a needle in a bundle of hay.. |
| 15:07.46 | LeTama | yes, kind of. I won't try that for long, reverse nk will take forever with my poor arm asm skills |
| 15:08.58 | LeTama | My next step will be probably to dig into linux scheduling to try to find a pattern in what happens |
| 15:09.00 | gauner1986 | i did try reversing spl a time ago.. but didn't come too far.. |
| 15:09.14 | gauner1986 | not an easy task |
| 15:09.42 | gauner1986 | you have to have a lot of c knowledge anyway |
| 15:10.01 | gauner1986 | i programmed a bit of c here and there.. but not that much |
| 15:10.12 | gauner1986 | probably not enough |
| 15:10.50 | gauner1986 | it's interesting however |
| 15:10.52 | LeTama | yes, I saw your post while I was looking for spl memory location |
| 15:11.49 | LeTama | I have a good knowledge of C and x86 reverse engineering, but I'm a rookie in arm |
| 15:12.06 | AstainNotAway | cmonex is a great source for that |
| 15:13.05 | LeTama | Astain: yes, definitely. But I can't bug her without really knowing what I'm looking for |
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| 15:15.08 | gauner1986 | LeTama: how did you learn x86 reversing? |
| 15:17.00 | LeTama | well, by hacking my PC for few years. I have one since 1990 :) |
| 15:17.11 | gauner1986 | lol |
| 15:17.19 | gauner1986 | why did yu need to hack it? |
| 15:17.29 | gauner1986 | +o |
| 15:19.17 | LeTama | well, at that time you had basic and assembly, that's it |
| 15:19.19 | gauner1986 | i have one since i'm five years old.. probably a mistake by my parents.. but now i'm here.. and a geek. :D |
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| 15:21.16 | LeTama | :) I started when I was 11 and that the only available machine for consumer was Singlair ZX80. |
| 15:21.40 | LeTama | I started programming on paper years before touching my first machine in a computer club |
| 15:22.25 | gauner1986 | on paper.. lol.. couldnt have imagined that in my time, except in school :P |
| 15:23.06 | LeTama | yeah. Different time. ZX80 was way too expensive for my parents at that time. |
| 15:23.36 | gauner1986 | hmm.. yeah.. different times.. your generation got into that low level stuff way easier than my generation |
| 15:23.46 | gauner1986 | you just had to do it |
| 15:24.05 | LeTama | yeah, 1Ko for programs is not a lot :) |
| 15:26.00 | LeTama | oups, sorry, meant 1 KB. |
| 15:26.28 | gauner1986 | i see.. french people use ko.. :) |
| 15:26.36 | LeTama | yes, bad habit |
| 15:26.52 | CazH | LeTama, if you have to write the programs on paper first 1KB seems like a LOT of memory to me :P |
| 15:27.30 | LeTama | CazH: true! |
| 15:29.04 | CazH | I'm having trouble just forcing my self to draw my schmatics on paper when i'm designing electornics, easier just to do it in you head and then draw in to the computer afterwards :P |
| 15:29.22 | gauner1986 | :D |
| 15:29.48 | gauner1986 | i'm also often thinking exactly like this... |
| 15:30.43 | LeTama | Same here, my hand writing is horrible now. I'm writing like a mad doctor. |
| 15:39.32 | gauner1986 | as long as your code is good... :D |
| 15:40.18 | LeTama | true! |
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| 15:49.30 | aaronfc | Hello :) I'm trying to port Android to Acer F900. It uses s3c6410 processor, and I found some kernel for this processor. I compiled and tryed to run it throgh Haret. But after "Jumping to kernel" line text becomes unreadable and seems to move very quickly from up to down. Any idea? Kernel problem ? Is there any way to see a log of what is happening ? |
| 15:49.47 | aaronfc | Sorry my english, I'm spanish |
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| 16:32.54 | rafyvitto | me imagino q tendrias q compilar un build angstrong para poder debug |
| 16:33.11 | rafyvitto | claro eso si el kernel llega asta el userland de angstrong xD |
| 16:36.45 | aaronfc | ... creo que me faltó decir que soy un poco novato en esto de la kernel.. jeje a ver si me puedes explicar un poco mejor lo que has dicho |
| 16:37.02 | rafyvitto | comos dos =] |
| 16:37.12 | rafyvitto | yo noce como compilar kernels ni nada, solo se lo bascio |
| 16:37.17 | rafyvitto | somos* |
| 16:37.35 | aaronfc | hombre jajaja seguro que sabes más que yo, xD de eso no me cabe ni la menor duda! jajaja |
| 16:37.48 | rafyvitto | lo que te decia es que hay una distribucion de linux llamada angstrong |
| 16:37.53 | aaronfc | La verdad esque creo que al final acabaré desistiendo... la verdad esque es una pena... |
| 16:38.01 | rafyvitto | la cual se usa mayormente para debugg tu kernel de linux |
| 16:38.02 | aaronfc | Ahora consigo que me salte a la kernel |
| 16:38.06 | aaronfc | pero una vez llega a la kernel |
| 16:38.11 | aaronfc | la imagen de la pantalla se distorsiona |
| 16:38.15 | aaronfc | como a rayas verticales |
| 16:38.32 | aaronfc | i se queda todo lo de la pantalla deformado, pero claro... de ahi ya no se pasar.. no se ni por qué ocurre |
| 16:38.41 | aaronfc | si es cuestion de drivers de la parte gráfica.. o vete a saber |
| 16:38.56 | rafyvitto | si muy probable |
| 16:39.07 | rafyvitto | tambien puede ser el driver de la pantalla lcd |
| 16:39.19 | rafyvitto | q nosea compatible con tu lcd |
| 16:39.26 | rafyvitto | y por eso se distorciona |
| 16:39.33 | aaronfc | como puedo saber qué pantalla lcd tengo ? |
| 16:39.40 | rafyvitto | bueno |
| 16:39.44 | aaronfc | esque encontré las especificaciones de mi teléfono pero te da numeros de serie de Acer |
| 16:39.52 | rafyvitto | saves como dumpiar tu rom en windows movil? |
| 16:40.19 | aaronfc | no, lo unico parecido a lo que dices, ha sido usando Haret, he hecho un dump de la mmu ... |
| 16:40.30 | aaronfc | pero ni idea de si es lo que preguntas jeje, ya te he dicho que soy muy novato! :P |
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| 16:41.04 | rafyvitto | bueno la manera mas facil es chekiando la carpeta OEM cunado dumpeas tu rom |
| 16:41.12 | rafyvitto | hay estan todos los drivers de tu dispocitivo |
| 16:41.36 | rafyvitto | aver creo q mi cocina del acer s200 |
| 16:41.47 | rafyvitto | te puede funcionar para tu acer |
| 16:42.03 | rafyvitto | es el f900? |
| 16:42.04 | aaronfc | yo tengo una cocina de f900 creo, pero no se muy bien cómo usarla jeje |
| 16:42.06 | aaronfc | si |
| 16:42.12 | rafyvitto | ok |
| 16:42.27 | rafyvitto | dejame refrescarme la mente hace meses q no uso mi kitchen jejej |
| 16:42.40 | aaronfc | jajaja ok , tranquilo :P gracias por tu tiempo :P |
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| 16:43.54 | rafyvitto | de nada =], te recuerdo q nose miucho de esto solo lo bascio ok...refiriendoce a kernel debugging en linux :P |
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| 16:45.17 | rafyvitto | ohh yace voy a buscar un rom de tu f900 en la pagina de acer movil |
| 16:45.20 | rafyvitto | y lo dumpeo |
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| 16:47.55 | aaronfc | ok, muchas gracias rafyvitto :P |
| 16:48.11 | aaronfc | yo aprovechando que fuiste a mirar tu "cocina" fui a la mia a x algo para merendar x'D |
| 16:48.23 | rafyvitto | lol |
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| 16:48.59 | aaronfc | encontraste la rom ? o te la busco ? |
| 16:50.26 | Unholy_ | stinbd here? |
| 16:50.33 | rafyvitto | si ya lo encontre |
| 16:50.36 | rafyvitto | y lo baje |
| 16:50.41 | rafyvitto | voy dumpiarlo |
| 16:50.58 | aaronfc | ok ;) |
| 16:51.45 | aaronfc | de el dump de la rom, podré saber todos los componentes que tiene el teléfono ? Pantalla LCD, módulo de wifi, etc, etc ? |
| 16:52.34 | rafyvitto | sep casi todos |
| 16:52.58 | [acl] | Unholy_: You ever get your 3d working? |
| 16:53.20 | Unholy_ | yup i got it working, what i cant get to work is market =) |
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| 16:53.38 | Unholy_ | for some reason it doe snot get installed |
| 16:53.47 | Unholy_ | so i cant download the latest neocore |
| 16:53.51 | Unholy_ | and do some benchmarks |
| 16:54.32 | [acl] | thats odd. .. never encountered that issue |
| 16:54.47 | Unholy_ | ye its the litchen probly something im doing wrong |
| 16:54.57 | Unholy_ | but stinebd is not online to help XD |
| 16:55.01 | Unholy_ | kitchen* |
| 16:55.43 | stinebd | i'm here |
| 16:55.55 | stinebd | i tend to respond better when my nick is spelled correctly |
| 16:56.05 | stinebd | it triggers a highlight in my irc client |
| 16:56.16 | Unholy_ | haha my bad |
| 16:56.47 | rafyvitto | demonios >< |
| 16:56.57 | rafyvitto | acer iso fiestas con tu rom |
| 16:57.07 | aaronfc | jajaja |
| 16:57.09 | aaronfc | y eso ? |
| 16:57.11 | rafyvitto | casi ni puedo sacarlo del ejecutable |
| 16:57.29 | rafyvitto | lo saque y esta en un formato q en mi vida havia visto |
| 16:57.43 | Unholy_ | well stinebd, someting is wrong here the kitchen ignores the system folder in the root of the kitchen folder, so it does not include the market |
| 16:57.50 | Unholy_ | or the base image dosent have it |
| 16:57.53 | stinebd | the what? |
| 16:58.01 | stinebd | there should be no system directory there |
| 16:58.06 | aaronfc | rafyvitto: Puede que se pueda con esta kitchen ? http://www.pdagismo.com/forum/viewthread.php?thread_id=211&pid=5883#post_5883 |
| 16:58.08 | Unholy_ | oh |
| 16:58.18 | stinebd | where did the system directory come from? |
| 16:58.21 | Unholy_ | is there some way for me to send you a screenshot of my kitchen? |
| 16:58.32 | Unholy_ | from a zip you tol me to donwload |
| 16:58.35 | Unholy_ | told* |
| 16:58.45 | stinebd | you mean like hw3d.zip? |
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| 16:58.52 | Unholy_ | ya |
| 16:58.55 | stinebd | you don't unpack those |
| 16:59.09 | stinebd | the zips go right into the kitchen root directory as zips |
| 16:59.23 | stinebd | the kitchen will unpack those as needed |
| 16:59.36 | Unholy_ | ok let me try that |
| 16:59.56 | stinebd | the only one you need to unpack is kitchen ingredients |
| 17:00.22 | CazH | stinebd, you made the wireless tether program work on xdandroid right? Any chance you will do the same to the wired tether one? |
| 17:01.15 | stinebd | CazH: no chance in the near future |
| 17:01.36 | CazH | Okay guess ill just use the wifi then :) But hey thanks for making that work :D |
| 17:01.46 | Unholy_ | it worked stinebd |
| 17:01.54 | Unholy_ | for some reason it did not yesterday |
| 17:02.05 | Unholy_ | it probly was the kitchen names folder |
| 17:02.31 | stinebd | just so you know, that kitchen is nothing like the kitchen i will actually release |
| 17:02.49 | stinebd | that's pretty much just a technology preview kind of thing to test the uml-based generator |
| 17:02.57 | Unholy_ | i see |
| 17:03.03 | Unholy_ | it works prety well |
| 17:03.16 | Unholy_ | kindop of confusing for me, since im more used to winmo ones |
| 17:03.42 | Unholy_ | what if i want to add more apks? were do they go |
| 17:04.31 | stinebd | overlays/999_custom-apps/system/app/ |
| 17:04.52 | Unholy_ | ok |
| 17:05.06 | Unholy_ | and themes go there also? |
| 17:05.15 | stinebd | i have no idea |
| 17:05.22 | rafyvitto | @aarofc te estoy haciendo pm |
| 17:05.22 | Unholy_ | ok |
| 17:05.27 | stinebd | i don't know how themes work |
| 17:05.43 | Unholy_ | me nether haha il figure it out somehow |
| 17:05.54 | [acl] | themes as in skinning the ui ? |
| 17:06.42 | Unholy_ | yup |
| 17:06.42 | Unholy_ | i just whant to find a theme and cook it in with the "rom" |
| 17:06.42 | [acl] | depending on the apk. You can have graphics inside the resource folder. you can unpack the apk change the grahics and repack it |
| 17:06.42 | stinebd | basically the kitchen works by using a bunch of "overlays" to modify an existing system image |
| 17:06.44 | stinebd | each of those zip files in the kitchen directory is an overlay, and the 999_custom-apps overlay is applied last |
| 17:07.08 | Unholy_ | ah i see |
| 17:07.10 | stinebd | so whatever you stick in overlays/999_custom-apps/system/ will be planted on the system image |
| 17:07.35 | [acl] | Unholy_,: if you want to skin the UI like sense, then the resoruces are usually in the framework apk but thats alot of work. Good luck. I know alot of people had success changing the sensui so its not so bloated. |
| 17:07.36 | phh | so many logs. |
| 17:08.12 | Unholy_ | i dont want to skin, i just whnat to find a nice theme and include it |
| 17:08.19 | Unholy_ | XD |
| 17:08.58 | [acl] | Unholy_: sounds like a good project |
| 17:10.32 | Unholy_ | haha wish me luck |
| 17:11.53 | rafyvitto | i guess he'l need to resize pngs and stuff |
| 17:12.04 | rafyvitto | since hes device is vga |
| 17:12.34 | [acl] | vga is the only way.. anything else is uncivilized |
| 17:12.56 | phh | [acl]: rhodium's wvga suck ? |
| 17:13.02 | [acl] | jk.. i had too much coffee. |
| 17:13.05 | phh | (or there is something I didn't understand in the conversation) |
| 17:13.27 | [acl] | phh: i didnt even understand the convo. I'm just babling hoping the jtag guy shows up |
| 17:13.35 | phh | [acl]: okay |
| 17:13.45 | [acl] | which reminds me. Looks like someone else already posted the jtag pinouts for the topaz |
| 17:14.14 | [acl] | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=669871 |
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| 17:15.00 | peterm20 | i have a q about the rootfs |
| 17:15.22 | phh | peterm20: ? |
| 17:15.51 | peterm20 | i don't know if its a issue with all the users but the boot loop on the ralph800 |
| 17:16.21 | peterm20 | i've found that if i put a sleep 5 right after it creates the data.img it seems to solve the issue for me |
| 17:17.34 | phh | aftetr the dd or the mkfs ? |
| 17:17.42 | peterm20 | let me check |
| 17:17.48 | Unholy_ | acl: were would the boot animation go? |
| 17:18.20 | peterm20 | mkefs |
| 17:18.26 | [acl] | system/media/bootanimation.zip |
| 17:18.31 | Unholy_ | ok thx |
| 17:18.35 | [acl] | but i think it also depends on the binary that calls the bootanim |
| 17:19.14 | [acl] | because ive also seen system/media/bootscreen |
| 17:19.26 | [acl] | or maybe they are both called? im not sure |
| 17:19.39 | Unholy_ | i got a boot animation |
| 17:20.00 | [acl] | its probably the nexus one X looking thing |
| 17:20.01 | Unholy_ | and it only has a bootanimation.zip |
| 17:20.20 | DCDemon | <[acl]> phh: i didnt even understand the convo. I'm just babling hoping the jtag guy shows up |
| 17:20.23 | Unholy_ | nah its a costume one form someone in the android forums in xda |
| 17:20.27 | DCDemon | ive waited too...still hasnt come :( |
| 17:21.02 | [acl] | DCDemon: Well there is someone who also did the same with the Topaz. So im hunting this other guy down now |
| 17:21.18 | stinebd | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:22.01 | [acl] | stinebd: thanks for clearing that up |
| 17:22.22 | peterm20 | if your wondering about me, i haven't IRC'd in years.. so android forums has a online applet. im a member of xda/ppcgeeks too :) |
| 17:22.33 | phh | stinebd: stop talking like a nerd. ou can do full sentences :p |
| 17:22.46 | stinebd | phh: that was 3 full sentences! ;) |
| 17:22.47 | phh | you* |
| 17:22.49 | peterm20 | stinebd does the new version of ubuntu not work with the ASOP source? |
| 17:23.08 | phh | (it's AOSP damn.) |
| 17:23.21 | peterm20 | sorry |
| 17:23.27 | stinebd | peterm20: no idea, but probably not. it likely still requires java5, lucid has java6 |
| 17:23.55 | peterm20 | i installed the java5 like the source.android.com directions said to. |
| 17:24.49 | stinebd | my build host runs gentoo, i've never built aosp with ubuntu |
| 17:25.59 | [acl] | HTCdemon: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6750883 |
| 17:29.09 | HTCdemon | [acl] good idea |
| 17:29.20 | peterm20 | alright nevermind seems like the boot loop error is related to something else :( |
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| 18:21.04 | stinebd | if you ever find out what, let us know |
| 18:21.21 | stinebd | or a way to reproduce reliably |
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| 18:36.30 | hamagc | are there any settings to disable deepsleep? |
| 18:38.01 | phh | user chamonix's commandcenter |
| 18:38.06 | phh | (or control center I can't remember) |
| 18:38.10 | phh | it has a wakelock command iirc |
| 18:38.18 | phh | or just do echo blabla > /sys/power/wake_lock |
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| 19:42.04 | sovereignty | phh: your here? |
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| 19:42.14 | phh | sure |
| 19:43.01 | sovereignty | you're familiar with the battery workaround by Unknownforce, right? (I don't know if "unknown_" here is the same guy) |
| 19:43.15 | phh | not at all |
| 19:43.20 | sovereignty | oh |
| 19:43.41 | sovereignty | I've been sitting here thinking about it and I think I have determined the way to calculate it correctly |
| 19:44.40 | sovereignty | if you want go to http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=121614 |
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| 19:45.19 | phh | I have ideas too |
| 19:45.23 | phh | just damn annoying to do |
| 19:45.26 | sovereignty | he basically took the raphael code in htc_battery_smem and copied if over to the rhodium section |
| 19:45.32 | sovereignty | just as a patch |
| 19:45.44 | sovereignty | well, I think I have an easy solution |
| 19:45.53 | phh | curb fitting. |
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| 19:46.06 | sovereignty | if you're willing to try...i am still setting up my linux system |
| 19:46.17 | sovereignty | and can't try it |
| 19:46.57 | sovereignty | i hate to post a long description here, but, to explain it, it will be a long post |
| 19:47.11 | sovereignty | any other way to get the information to you? email? |
| 19:47.56 | phh | phhusson@free.fr if you want |
| 19:48.03 | sovereignty | you might have thought of it already, but i don't know |
| 19:48.14 | sovereignty | it has to do with the output resistance of the battery |
| 19:48.44 | sovereignty | I think android is reading the registers correctly for the rhodium, right? |
| 19:48.55 | sovereignty | just no calculations for level yet? |
| 19:49.15 | sovereignty | the battery voltage, current, etc, registers |
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| 19:50.15 | phh | sovereignty: no |
| 19:50.22 | phh | we have wrong voltage/current values |
| 19:51.28 | sovereignty | oh. I thought the only thing left to do was calculate the level from those values |
| 19:52.29 | sovereignty | is the problem that we do not know which address to read to get the values? |
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| 19:55.29 | sovereignty | from what I understand, the battery's eeprom is reporting the levels via the sb bus and if we know where those are recorded one would just need to read them and calculate the level |
| 19:55.40 | sovereignty | is this correct? |
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| 20:13.35 | sovereignty | phh: i sent you the e-mail. you might have already thought of what I sent you, but I don't know |
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| 20:15.15 | phh | sovereignty: there is no such thing as "battery eeprom" |
| 20:15.19 | phh | everything is done in qualcomm's soc |
| 20:15.29 | phh | sb bus ? what the hell is that ? |
| 20:17.04 | sovereignty | hmmm...a lot of smart batteries have built in eeprom that stores this information |
| 20:17.18 | sovereignty | i have no idea about the one in the rhodium, though |
| 20:17.47 | phh | the resistance change with the temperature. |
| 20:17.47 | sovereignty | sb bus = Smart battery bus...it has to do with one of the middle two pins |
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| 20:18.31 | sovereignty | correct. i am in the process of compiling all of that information to set up a lookup table |
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| 20:22.13 | sovereignty | phh: http://sbworkshop.com/sbdat110.pdf |
| 20:22.20 | sovereignty | long read |
| 20:23.07 | phh | long ? lol |
| 20:23.31 | phh | sovereignty: anyway no, there is no I2C bus on those battery. |
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| 20:26.04 | sovereignty | phh: at any rate however the qualcomm is getting the information is irrelevant. one just needs to know where to read it... |
| 20:26.53 | sovereignty | is that not known, yet? |
| 20:26.58 | phh | it is |
| 20:26.59 | phh | check wiki |
| 20:28.01 | spetrillo | phh: any luck in getting Whitestone kb to be a copy of Topaz? Hows the new PC? |
| 20:28.12 | phh | PC ? kb ? |
| 20:28.15 | phh | stop using abreviations /o\ |
| 20:30.14 | phh | (in the sources too) |
| 20:30.41 | phh | 01f00000+0xfc110 |
| 20:31.11 | phh | first two bytes = batt id, then temperature, then voltage, then, charge current, then discharge current |
| 20:31.13 | phh | no unit |
| 20:31.15 | phh | have fun. |
| 20:31.18 | phh | (phys addr) |
| 20:32.48 | sovereignty | ok |
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| 20:34.54 | spetrillo | phh: how is your new personal computer working...last time we talked you were in the process of moving to a new one. Second you indicated the last time we chatted that you would add the Whitestone keyboard to be a copy of Topaz. I was just following up on that. Sorry for the abbreviations. |
| 20:35.03 | HTCdemon | wonder where binarydriod has disappeared off to.... |
| 20:44.05 | phh | spetrillo: surely not keyboard /o\ |
| 20:44.12 | phh | and I'm still moving from computers to computers |
| 20:44.16 | phh | (now it's the laptop.) |
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| 20:48.16 | spetrillo | phh: well lets see if I can jog our collective memories. I believe I explained that the 12/21 build, which included the Topaz keyboard/machid worked in letting the Whitestone boot too. The next build, which I believe was 12/28 changed something so that Whitestone could not boot. From what I can see the Whitestone machine id(2514) is included in the current build, but still we cannot boot. |
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| 20:48.42 | spetrillo | phh: I believe you said you could make the Whitestone keyboard a copy of Topaz, but then again I could be totally wrong. |
| 20:48.44 | phh | spetrillo: yes it needs to add the board file |
| 20:48.57 | phh | I can't see where you can see any keyboard on topaz ? |
| 20:49.39 | spetrillo | phh: Ok I could be using the wrong vernacular...when you say board file I immediately think keyboard. Sorry if I am using wrong terminology. |
| 20:49.59 | phh | lol -_-' |
| 20:50.05 | phh | spetrillo: board refers to mainboard |
| 20:50.06 | phh | of the phone |
| 20:52.26 | spetrillo | Ahh now I got it and wont forget it...lol! Cool...glad we cleared that up. |
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| 21:48.16 | voitec | hello, i've got a problem because i've got mda iv vario, and when i run anndroid, hardware key DIAL, END, BACK, HOME doesn't work corretly. home is changed with dial, and end changed with back... is it possible to repair it ? |
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| 22:32.04 | aaronfc | Hello :) I boot my kernel using Haret, and my screen freezes and the image becomes distorted :S .... any idea what is causing that ? Maybe wrong Display Drivers ? *-) |
| 22:33.23 | NetRipper | probably what you say yes, driver incompatible with your device |
| 22:33.58 | NetRipper | depending on your device you can retrieve the ramconsole (if you soft-resetted instead of removed battery to restart) |
| 22:34.28 | aaronfc | I need to remove battery to restart |
| 22:34.42 | NetRipper | most devices have a small button you can reach with a paperclip or something |
| 22:34.44 | aaronfc | once image freezes, only way to shut mobile down is removing battery |
| 22:34.57 | aaronfc | *-) ... I didn't try this |
| 22:35.03 | NetRipper | what device do you have? |
| 22:35.10 | aaronfc | you mean I soft-reset once image get freezed, right ? |
| 22:35.13 | aaronfc | Acer F900 |
| 22:35.17 | NetRipper | which cpu is that? |
| 22:35.24 | aaronfc | (I know :$ Its not HTC :$) |
| 22:35.27 | aaronfc | s3c6410 |
| 22:35.42 | NetRipper | hm i don't know if the kernel for that device has ramconsole.. i don't know its memory location anyway |
| 22:36.01 | NetRipper | you need to check the kernel source to figure that out, or ask a developer with that device |
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| 22:36.28 | aaronfc | there are not developers with that device... that why I'm trying to port Android on myself :P |
| 22:36.43 | NetRipper | then this is your first obstacle :) |
| 22:36.54 | aaronfc | yes I know jajaja, thanks for your help anyway |
| 22:36.59 | NetRipper | :) |
| 22:37.06 | aaronfc | any "suggestions" ? So I can start learning ? |
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| 22:37.40 | NetRipper | do you build your own kernel or do you use a prebuilt kernel? |
| 22:37.56 | aaronfc | I downloaded source code of some kernels |
| 22:37.59 | aaronfc | and compiled it |
| 22:38.11 | aaronfc | only did make menuconfig, configured some things, and "make" |
| 22:38.13 | CazH | NetRipper, do you know who is developing on the diam100? |
| 22:38.23 | CazH | If any? |
| 22:38.25 | aaronfc | zImage generated and I tryed |
| 22:38.45 | aaronfc | but no luck with any kernel yet |
| 22:38.45 | NetRipper | alright, then i suggest you look into the source code, find the board you're booting (using mtype etc) and look into its source code |
| 22:39.18 | NetRipper | that your screen goes distorted is a sign it at least boots the kernel up to some part |
| 22:39.34 | aaronfc | yes that is what I thought |
| 22:39.43 | aaronfc | but I don't know how to do what you said |
| 22:40.12 | NetRipper | CazH, ummmm, i think you better ask phh, i think he can give you an answer.. if there is a diam100 developer that is :) |
| 22:40.13 | aaronfc | "find the board I'm booting" ... Find board where ? |
| 22:40.29 | aaronfc | (I'm sorry Im spanish and my english is not very well ) |
| 22:40.47 | aaronfc | *as well as it should be |
| 22:40.48 | aaronfc | xD |
| 22:41.12 | NetRipper | well first try to find a kernel that is used for a device with the same processor |
| 22:41.23 | aaronfc | I just found it |
| 22:41.24 | NetRipper | use the correct defconfig to build that kernel |
| 22:41.30 | CazH | NetRipper, okay thanks, haven't seen any talk in here about the diam100 these last couple of days i've been here :) |
| 22:41.37 | aaronfc | I found 2 that fits my processor |
| 22:42.01 | NetRipper | CazH, it's quiet every now and then :) you can always check the irclog in the topic to look further back to see when the diamond or diam100 was last mentioned |
| 22:42.13 | aaronfc | NetRipper: http://github.com/leemgs/samsung-s3c6410-android.1.0 |
| 22:42.25 | NetRipper | CazH, or raphael, it very closely resembles the diamond |
| 22:42.36 | aaronfc | that for example, I downloaded, installed toolchain and got to compile it |
| 22:42.47 | CazH | NetRipper, will do :) Thanks |
| 22:44.10 | NetRipper | aaronfc, arch/arm/configs contain the defconfigs, use the defconfig suitable for th3 s3c6410 |
| 22:44.23 | NetRipper | looking at the commit history, it seems smdk6410mtd_android.081213 is your defconfig |
| 22:44.29 | NetRipper | as its the only one changed :) |
| 22:44.33 | NetRipper | http://github.com/leemgs/samsung-s3c6410-android.1.0/tree/master/arch/arm/configs%2F |
| 22:45.00 | NetRipper | in arch/arm/mach-s3c6410 you'll find the specific code |
| 22:45.05 | NetRipper | look into the correct board- file |
| 22:45.31 | NetRipper | in your case, mach-smdk6410.c |
| 22:45.33 | NetRipper | for that tree |
| 22:46.08 | NetRipper | and to know what to change... well erm.. i can't really help with that :) you'll probably need to reverse engineer some stuff from windows mobile |
| 22:46.54 | NetRipper | hard to tell you what to do, as there's too much :) |
| 22:47.09 | aaronfc | !! :D Very thanks! :P Now I've something to continue :P |
| 22:47.10 | NetRipper | but it's always a good start to look into whats already available |
| 22:47.16 | aaronfc | Very very thanks! :P |
| 22:47.27 | NetRipper | you're welcome |
| 22:47.30 | CazH | Love that line:"you'll probably need to reverse engineer some stuff from windows mobile" You make it sound like something you just do in a couple of minuts :P |
| 22:47.41 | aaronfc | jajaja |
| 22:47.51 | NetRipper | CazH, hehe |
| 22:48.09 | NetRipper | unfortunately its not that easy ;) wish it was :) |
| 22:48.19 | NetRipper | anyway i gtg off to bed |
| 22:48.20 | NetRipper | night :) |
| 22:48.22 | CazH | Yeah me too :) |
| 22:48.26 | CazH | Night night |
| 22:48.27 | aaronfc | night :) |
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| 23:28.21 | myn | woah |
| 23:28.23 | myn | did hell freeze over? |
| 23:28.34 | myn | ext2 support now? |
| 23:28.59 | myn | does this mean the rootfs will now be embedded into the system now? |
| 23:40.46 | stinebd | no |
| 23:40.59 | stinebd | ext2 support isn't new |
| 23:43.56 | sovereignty | stinebd: are you the one to ask about an error on the wiki? |
| 23:44.10 | stinebd | sovereignty: i'm the one to complain to |
| 23:44.22 | sovereignty | $curl http://android.git.kernel.org/repo~/bin/repo |
| 23:44.26 | sovereignty | should read $curl http://android.git.kernel.org/repo > ~/bin/repo |
| 23:44.41 | stinebd | probably an html entities thing |
| 23:44.58 | sovereignty | i was fighting it for a while and finally figured it out |
| 23:45.23 | sovereignty | just thought i'd let ya know :) |
| 23:45.34 | stinebd | sovereignty: thanks, fixed |
| 23:45.41 | sovereignty | np |
| 23:46.01 | sovereignty | uh oh |
| 23:46.08 | sovereignty | there is still no space after > |
| 23:46.16 | stinebd | no space needed |
| 23:46.17 | sovereignty | idk if it matters |
| 23:46.23 | sovereignty | ok |
| 23:46.43 | sovereignty | i used a space and it still works :D |
| 23:47.08 | sovereignty | can i suggest something to add? |
| 23:47.35 | stinebd | suggestions are essential |
| 23:48.21 | sovereignty | i started using ubuntu 10.04 and JDK 5.0 is not in synaptics by default |
| 23:49.04 | sovereignty | for someone that has never done it before it would be nice to know how to add the correct software sources to get it to show up |
| 23:49.12 | stinebd | i've never done it before :) |
| 23:49.17 | stinebd | i don't use ubuntu for the build host |
| 23:49.33 | sovereignty | give me a min... |
| 23:50.19 | sovereignty | deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ jaunty multiverse |
| 23:50.26 | sovereignty | deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ jaunty-updates multiverse |
| 23:50.42 | stinebd | it's not in karmic either? |
| 23:50.56 | sovereignty | em...it might, but jaunty is the one i used |
| 23:51.13 | sovereignty | sudo apt-get update |
| 23:51.19 | sovereignty | sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jdk |
| 23:51.35 | sovereignty | em...the last two lines in terminal |
| 23:52.07 | sovereignty | sources can be added in system>administration>software sources |
| 23:52.14 | sovereignty | you probably knew that :) |
| 23:52.59 | sovereignty | just in case someone is wanting to set their system up in ubuntu 10.04 |
| 23:53.09 | sovereignty | like me :) |
| 23:53.51 | sovereignty | otherwise I was having trouble with both the rpm and bin packages |
| 23:53.55 | sovereignty | from sun |
| 23:53.59 | sovereignty | website |
| 23:57.28 | sovereignty | stinebd: oh and this... java -version |
| 23:57.34 | sovereignty | in terminal to check the default |
| 23:57.50 | sovereignty | sudo update-java-alternatives -s java-1.5.0-sun |
| 23:57.59 | sovereignty | if 5 is not default |
| 23:59.07 | sovereignty | stinebd: that reminds me...you don't have a space after -s on wiki |
| 23:59.43 | sovereignty | for sudo update-java-alternatives -s java-1.5.0-sun |