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| 00:34.10 | NetRipper | dcordes, it's funny to see the cache can actually mix stuff up when not handled correctly (in haret) |
| 00:34.59 | NetRipper | dcordes, im working on the fb_printf() stuff for leo in haret, and noticed some strange behaviour... very weird.. some values that were set, were not really set anymore in the preloader code.. while the memory address was exactly the same etc etc |
| 00:35.25 | NetRipper | dcordes, turns out the flush cache for arm7 in haret is not proper as you can read in the ML |
| 00:36.35 | NetRipper | dcordes, some things in cache were dismissed before the cache was purged (instead of committed before purge), so some writes did not really end up in memory |
| 00:37.46 | NetRipper | dcordes, anyway - shouldn't fix anything for our segfaults in linux though, but still a nice find as it could cause other issues, random locksups or whatever during haret boot / wirq/gpio dump |
| 00:37.54 | NetRipper | hmmm maybe with this we can finally trace i2c |
| 00:38.05 | NetRipper | would need to be tested |
| 00:38.13 | NetRipper | bedtime, night :) |
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| 04:05.31 | parmaster | how can i turn an HTC EVO into one of these: http://www.hak5.org/store/wifi-pineapple-version-2 |
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| 04:47.57 | mcbridematt | Does full hardware suspend (echo mem > /sys/power/state) work on any of the msm7k WM devices? on kovsky it looks like the use of the sdcard as rootfs prevents this |
| 04:52.41 | tsamolotoff | netripper: about cpu crashes: didn't you thought about thumb/thumb-2 and its incompatibility with ce? maybe cpu is specifically configured not to use it, and segfaults on any attempt to do it? |
| 04:58.19 | parmaster | can Broadcom's BCM4329 wifi chip support virtual software AP's like madwifi can? |
| 04:59.26 | parmaster | it definitely supports softap on windows (and we know it does under android for the EVO) |
| 04:59.40 | parmaster | just wondering if it can do multiple virtual softap's |
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| 05:17.29 | parmaster | if somewhere down the line there would be a driver like marvell's for it, would be awesome |
| 05:22.19 | parmaster | in android its... |
| 05:22.20 | parmaster | http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=platform/system/wlan/broadcom.git;a=commit;h=f427424c414886903e4ad654c143c8ce6ec10e3c |
| 05:28.34 | tsamolotoff | parmaster: multiple aps for ce> |
| 05:28.37 | tsamolotoff | ? |
| 05:29.08 | tsamolotoff | you can try to play around with wl.exe utility |
| 05:39.24 | parmaster | hey thanks tsamolotoff |
| 05:39.57 | parmaster | i'm just curious if the bcm4329 can do virtual softap's |
| 05:40.58 | parmaster | i think i read something on dd-wrt that its working to do multiple virtual ap's on and asus wl-500 |
| 05:44.07 | parmaster | DD-WRT v24 is supposed to support up to 16 virtual interfaces |
| 05:49.56 | parmaster | it would be awesome to eventually make a jasager rom for the HTC EVO |
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| 06:22.39 | parmaster | eth2 interface on a wl-500w is a bcm4329 (same as in the HTC EVO) |
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| 06:29.23 | parmaster | enable_broadcom() { |
| 06:29.36 | parmaster | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:29.46 | parmaster | awesome ;) |
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| 07:17.26 | phh | parmaster: I think we don't have the sources of dd-wrt devices ? |
| 07:17.28 | phh | for wifi I mean |
| 07:17.43 | phh | mcbridematt: suspend works fine for me |
| 07:18.28 | phh | parmaster: why the hell do you need many vAPs /o\ |
| 07:18.31 | phh | on a phone. |
| 07:20.14 | phh | mcbridematt: basically, and as usual, tell kovsky devs to stop working on there own, and work xdandroid's kernel tree. |
| 07:20.34 | parmaster | phh: lol |
| 07:21.23 | parmaster | yes, you're right about the sources... i beleive the bcm4329 broadcom only released linux driver in a hybrid solution |
| 07:21.40 | phh | parmaster: that's that obvious ? :D |
| 07:21.44 | parmaster | so partially source code / partially firmware microcode |
| 07:22.03 | parmaster | yeah, it is broadcom hehe |
| 07:24.41 | parmaster | phh: i wanted to make a jasagar rom |
| 07:24.57 | phh | jasagar ? |
| 07:25.00 | parmaster | yes |
| 07:25.21 | parmaster | http://www.digininja.org/jasager/ |
| 07:25.33 | parmaster | its for wifi interception |
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| 07:50.17 | parmaster | its a port of karma |
| 07:52.27 | parmaster | http://theta44.org/karma/index.html |
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| 08:15.36 | leviathan | dcordes: http://www.instructables.com/id/Android-G1-Serial-To-Arduino/ |
| 08:15.44 | leviathan | good morning btw |
| 08:15.46 | leviathan | ^^ |
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| 09:34.41 | NCommander | Evening all |
| 09:34.54 | NCommander | Out of curiosity, is it known where the SIM lock status is stored on the G1/Magic |
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| 10:21.50 | xUmaRix | blackstone android ? |
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| 11:07.17 | dcordes | morning |
| 11:08.36 | dcordes | leviathan: you got an arduino bot ? |
| 11:09.04 | leviathan | nope |
| 11:09.14 | leviathan | but would be cool to have one |
| 11:09.15 | leviathan | ;-D |
| 11:10.07 | dcordes | hm yes if I had the time I would love to have one control my RC plane which is gaining heavy dust layer |
| 11:11.58 | dcordes | let's hope the TTL-232R-3V3 cable will work |
| 11:12.08 | leviathan | yes |
| 11:12.37 | leviathan | I tried cyanogen initrd plus upstream kernel plus usb function patch |
| 11:12.41 | leviathan | for adb transport |
| 11:12.46 | leviathan | which applied well |
| 11:12.49 | leviathan | but nothing... |
| 11:12.51 | dcordes | I wondering how early you start getting the output from the msm serial driver on usb uart and from which point on you can interact on the shell |
| 11:13.01 | leviathan | hmm |
| 11:13.06 | leviathan | as I have heards |
| 11:13.08 | leviathan | -s |
| 11:13.19 | leviathan | you will get even into bootloader finally |
| 11:13.20 | leviathan | :-D |
| 11:13.53 | dcordes | lol let's see what happens on our windows ce based devices then :) |
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| 11:14.16 | dcordes | a big plus on the android devices of course |
| 11:14.39 | dcordes | morning GNU |
| 11:14.59 | leviathan | GNUtoo|laptop: morning |
| 11:15.17 | leviathan | I've now tried to boot into a initrd and connect to the device over adb |
| 11:15.30 | leviathan | after apply'n the patch for usbfunctions and adb transport |
| 11:15.35 | dcordes | leviathan: did you try using conventional usb net and some ssh client instead of annoying adb ? |
| 11:15.37 | leviathan | but somehow it doesnt seem to work |
| 11:15.47 | leviathan | doesnt work either... |
| 11:15.48 | GNUtoo|laptop | hi |
| 11:16.10 | dcordes | leviathan: I will find the post on mobile-linux-discuss mailing list about it for hd2 |
| 11:16.51 | leviathan | what I need is this f* serial cable |
| 11:16.55 | leviathan | that I can debug it |
| 11:17.37 | dcordes | leviathan: this is assuming htc-msm-2.6.32 http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/mobile-linux-discuss/2010-May/000089.html it works well on my leo/hd2 |
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| 11:19.25 | leviathan | dcordes: the point is: I don't wanna have any branch |
| 11:19.31 | leviathan | I wanna boot upstream |
| 11:19.36 | leviathan | as soon as it is running |
| 11:19.43 | leviathan | we can modify and clean our drivers |
| 11:19.51 | leviathan | concerning the official kernel guidlines |
| 11:20.00 | dcordes | leviathan: this is my exact motivation for obtaining the serial connection :) |
| 11:20.06 | leviathan | :-) |
| 11:21.41 | dcordes | I hope that the people working on the kernel for the windows devices similar to dream will hop on the mainline van at some point |
| 11:28.23 | leviathan | dcordes: could you please tell me, which connector I need for then end of the FTDI TTL-232R-3V3-WE ? |
| 11:28.30 | leviathan | I'm confused |
| 11:28.38 | leviathan | GNUtoo|laptop: or do you know? |
| 11:28.57 | leviathan | I'm collecting my farnell list atm |
| 11:29.41 | dcordes | leviathan: for dream you need normal mini usb |
| 11:29.48 | leviathan | hmm, ok |
| 11:29.50 | leviathan | mini |
| 11:29.51 | leviathan | ok |
| 11:29.57 | dcordes | do not confuse it with micro |
| 11:30.06 | dcordes | this is what we need for the newer devices |
| 11:30.12 | GNUtoo|laptop | leviathan, ? |
| 11:30.28 | GNUtoo|laptop | leviathan, did you read the howto |
| 11:30.59 | dcordes | leviathan: in case of micro I only have seen wacky connectors on farnell that have itsy soldering pads. I will just cut a cable and solder the wire ends manually |
| 11:32.12 | dcordes | leviathan: I don't understand all the solutions with PCB. I like the self contained FTDI TTL-232R-3V3 cable much better |
| 11:32.22 | leviathan | dito |
| 11:32.26 | dcordes | leviathan: that way we just end up with one hassle free cable |
| 11:32.35 | leviathan | jup |
| 11:32.38 | leviathan | http://ch.farnell.com/tyco-electronics-amp/1734035-1/conn-recept-5-usb-series-b/dp/1654060 |
| 11:33.11 | leviathan | oops |
| 11:33.15 | leviathan | its the wrong side |
| 11:33.16 | leviathan | >_< |
| 11:33.27 | GNUtoo|laptop | personally I already did a serial cable for my router |
| 11:33.44 | GNUtoo|laptop | you can use lm317 + max3232 or something like this |
| 11:33.45 | dcordes | GNUtoo|laptop: did it also have the 3.3V level ? |
| 11:34.04 | leviathan | uhm |
| 11:34.05 | GNUtoo|laptop | yes |
| 11:34.08 | leviathan | thats from usb |
| 11:34.10 | GNUtoo|laptop | but here it's 2.8v |
| 11:34.21 | leviathan | if you do e.g. tinyusb |
| 11:34.23 | GNUtoo|laptop | the htcdream has 2.8v not 3.3 |
| 11:34.25 | leviathan | with an attiny |
| 11:34.32 | GNUtoo|laptop | so you really need a lm317 |
| 11:34.33 | leviathan | you need 3.3 Zener diodes |
| 11:34.35 | dcordes | GNUtoo|laptop: in many places I have read that 2.8V and 3.3V are 'compatible' |
| 11:34.46 | leviathan | hmm |
| 11:34.49 | GNUtoo|laptop | yes but were there tested in the long term? |
| 11:35.02 | dcordes | wait I will quote |
| 11:35.08 | GNUtoo|laptop | that is to sa: |
| 11:35.12 | GNUtoo|laptop | *say |
| 11:35.17 | GNUtoo|laptop | it will work the first time |
| 11:35.37 | GNUtoo|laptop | but keeping using it could damage it a little bit each time? |
| 11:35.42 | leviathan | dcordes: do you know what? |
| 11:35.44 | leviathan | ;-) |
| 11:35.51 | leviathan | I'll use a usb-A conncetor |
| 11:35.53 | leviathan | :-) |
| 11:36.16 | GNUtoo|laptop | why don't you use a serial-usb adapter and the usual circuitery? |
| 11:36.27 | leviathan | look |
| 11:36.31 | GNUtoo|laptop | like pl2303 |
| 11:36.32 | leviathan | adapter to usbA |
| 11:36.34 | dcordes | leviathan: why not |
| 11:36.40 | leviathan | then usb a to mini |
| 11:36.54 | leviathan | so I do not need to cut ANything |
| 11:36.54 | tsamolotoff | hi guys |
| 11:36.56 | dcordes | GNUtoo|laptop: that cable is the usual circuitery |
| 11:37.04 | tsamolotoff | nothing new on the front? |
| 11:37.05 | leviathan | yes |
| 11:37.14 | dcordes | check this out http://www.instructables.com/id/Android-G1-Serial-Cable/step1/Items-Needed/ take note of the several usable boards mentioned |
| 11:37.15 | GNUtoo|laptop | ok |
| 11:37.39 | dcordes | the cable leviathan and I are talking about is in the link at the bottom |
| 11:37.40 | GNUtoo|laptop | oops I forgot to connect to vpn,bbs |
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| 11:37.59 | dcordes | tsamolotoff: hi |
| 11:38.14 | leviathan | tsamolotoff: hi |
| 11:38.24 | leviathan | tsamolotoff: I'll solder a serial connector |
| 11:38.30 | dcordes | tsamolotoff: I found your comment on the leo segfault interesting |
| 11:39.08 | dcordes | leviathan: see? "USB to 2.8V (or 3.3v) serial level converter." |
| 11:39.26 | tsamolotoff | dcordes: it's just pathetic that ce can't work with thumb |
| 11:40.05 | tsamolotoff | because of that it's impossible to utilise cegcc to compile anything with heavy asm optimisation, such as ffmpeg |
| 11:40.39 | tsamolotoff | even if certain code parts are compiled with required keys manually, it still doesn't work |
| 11:40.41 | dcordes | tsamolotoff: the general approach that the problem is introduced by wince vs android 'SoC programming/mode' is very valid imho |
| 11:41.37 | dcordes | tsamolotoff: it would be nice if you could confirm the CPU crashes on s200 |
| 11:41.38 | tsamolotoff | dcordes: i'm sorry what is this? |
| 11:41.58 | tsamolotoff | dcordes: if you make an intird for me, i can try it |
| 11:42.41 | leviathan | yes |
| 11:42.50 | leviathan | I'm not the critic one ;-) |
| 11:43.00 | dcordes | tsamolotoff: don't you have rootfs on SD already ? |
| 11:43.23 | tsamolotoff | no, i don't |
| 11:44.21 | tsamolotoff | http://pastebin.ca/1886343 - i suppose ramconsole base address is incorrect |
| 11:44.34 | dcordes | tsamolotoff: if you do some ext2 parition on sd it's much easier to test different things than with initrd (if you have no usb keyboard connected) |
| 11:44.43 | tsamolotoff | if it wouldn't bother you, can you hint at the right adress |
| 11:45.16 | tsamolotoff | dcordes: ok then, i'll do it now |
| 11:45.21 | dcordes | hm I'm not good at this. but I would say that it's bad to overlap the addresses |
| 11:45.58 | dcordes | tsamolotoff: this is a 'known crashing' initrd |
| 11:46.02 | dcordes | http://linuxtogo.org/~lgorris/initrd-angstrom-2009-09-17 |
| 11:46.38 | dcordes | tsamolotoff: it will go through a conventional kind of init process. on hd2 device it mostly crashes on udevd |
| 11:47.18 | tsamolotoff | any additional cmdline args? |
| 11:48.14 | dcordes | I don't think anything is needed. this initrd has symlink /init -> /sbin/init |
| 11:48.25 | tsamolotoff | SEGMENTATION VIOLATION |
| 11:48.33 | dcordes | there you go |
| 11:48.49 | dcordes | exact same behaviour |
| 11:49.08 | tsamolotoff | so it isn't leo-specific |
| 11:49.44 | tsamolotoff | can you post a link to this 'ce vs android thing'? |
| 11:49.45 | dcordes | I think we can assume same behaviour on same qsd8250 based tg01 |
| 11:50.07 | tsamolotoff | actually it's qsd8650b on both tg01 and s20 |
| 11:50.10 | tsamolotoff | *s200 |
| 11:50.40 | dcordes | tsamolotoff: we are discussing the thing in two places. 'internally' at mobile linux discuss and on official kernel list. http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Contact (for future reference) |
| 11:50.43 | tsamolotoff | according to modem at icommand nfo |
| 11:51.27 | tsamolotoff | maybe the same for leo |
| 11:51.54 | tsamolotoff | is there any differences between hd2 sold in the us and in europe? |
| 11:51.57 | tsamolotoff | *are |
| 11:54.05 | dcordes | tsamolotoff: here is direct link to wince vs linux amss thing http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-arm-msm/msg00399.html |
| 11:54.44 | dcordes | tsamolotoff: that is interesting. I need to send this AT command on leo/hd2 |
| 11:55.08 | dcordes | tsamolotoff: afaik the only difference is some memory mapping thing and different nand size |
| 11:56.01 | dcordes | LeTama: ping |
| 11:56.39 | tsamolotoff | dcordes: it's not the command :) you can simply use SkTools (shareware utility) Phone info |
| 11:56.45 | tsamolotoff | i'll make a screenshot |
| 11:57.17 | dcordes | ok |
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| 11:59.05 | dcordes | http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Qsd8250 |
| 11:59.57 | leviathan | i wrote to daniel walker |
| 12:00.14 | leviathan | asked him for an idea, how to initialize the fbcon |
| 12:00.17 | leviathan | but now answer... |
| 12:00.48 | leviathan | perhaps it takes longer |
| 12:00.51 | leviathan | omg |
| 12:00.56 | leviathan | I need this debugger |
| 12:01.00 | tsamolotoff | dcordes: http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/3536/capture009.jpg |
| 12:01.44 | dcordes | tsamolotoff: s200 is cdma ? |
| 12:01.51 | tsamolotoff | i suppose so |
| 12:02.00 | tsamolotoff | rafy and some other people used it in the US |
| 12:02.13 | tsamolotoff | 8650 is both for cdma and gsm |
| 12:02.18 | dcordes | ah I see :) |
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| 12:04.12 | tsamolotoff | dcordes: maybe it's stupid, but i suspect that 250 and 650 could be merely different radio roms... it's soc anyway |
| 12:04.57 | dcordes | tsamolotoff: I have had the same thought. also with regard to the fact that 650 support both, gsm and cdma |
| 12:05.48 | dcordes | did you see the wiki link? AAB on leo/hd2 SoC print vs nothing on nexus one / passion SoC print |
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| 12:10.20 | tsamolotoff | dcordes: weird... |
| 12:12.32 | dcordes | tsamolotoff: can you get such photo from s200 ? haha maybe it says 250 :D |
| 12:13.59 | dcordes | highly doubt it though. would be total marketing nightmare |
| 12:14.06 | tsamolotoff | i lack any of screwdriver-and-paperknife skills |
| 12:14.26 | tsamolotoff | but i can ask ppl at russian acer club to take a peek on it |
| 12:18.31 | dcordes | that would be nice |
| 12:19.19 | tsamolotoff | it would be funny if it's the same 250 |
| 12:19.36 | dcordes | definitely |
| 12:22.45 | tsamolotoff | there's something called azurewave AW-GH600 under the hood nead sd card slot |
| 12:25.25 | tsamolotoff | wtf??? there's another one wifi/bt/fm chip along with bcm4325???? |
| 12:26.39 | dcordes | maybe it's really better to add seperate s200 wiki page |
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| 12:27.53 | LeTama | hi guys |
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| 12:28.36 | dcordes | hi LeTama |
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| 12:38.45 | NeoFlux | dum de dum |
| 12:45.13 | NeoFlux | dr |
| 12:45.16 | NeoFlux | ick |
| 12:45.40 | NeoFlux | dcordes: I noticed your latest twitter said you were booting linux on other Q8250 based chipsets? |
| 12:45.51 | NeoFlux | or did I read that wrong? :\ |
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| 12:47.42 | [Oli-HD2] | hey everybody. |
| 12:48.19 | [Oli-HD2] | dcordes: I read that you would do some test with Rs232 Connection for Linux on the HTC Leo ? |
| 12:49.16 | [Oli-HD2] | dcordes: I work with Microcontroller (Atmel Series) and I have some Equipment for doing some tests.. |
| 12:53.08 | NeoFlux | dcordes: Someone is showing you love here :P |
| 12:53.51 | [Oli-HD2] | dcordes: I have also one Micro-USB Connector for the HD2 which i have buy for another project... but i could use it for some tests.. |
| 12:53.55 | [Oli-HD2] | ;-) |
| 12:54.40 | NeoFlux | [Oli-HD2]: I'm sure he'll be around soon. :) |
| 12:55.42 | [Oli-HD2] | ok thanks... |
| 12:56.01 | NeoFlux | tsamolotoff not sure how related you are to this project like.. |
| 12:56.52 | [Oli-HD2] | i would one help :-) |
| 12:57.11 | NeoFlux | and leviathan :P |
| 12:57.34 | NeoFlux | Netripper also, 4 of the people who I've seen contribute since I've been following the irc logs |
| 12:57.47 | gauner1986 | ~seen Markinus |
| 12:57.49 | apt | markinus <~Miranda@gtng-4db04460.pool.mediaWays.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #htc-linux, 31d 4h 38m 27s ago, saying: 'no time . .. :('. |
| 12:57.50 | tsamolotoff | NeoFlux: are you trying to say GTFO to me or something else? |
| 12:58.06 | Delf | I have HTC Touch Diamond with wm6. How do i get rid of wm6 and install Andriod instead? |
| 12:58.08 | NeoFlux | Nope? :P |
| 12:58.48 | NeoFlux | tsamolotoff: Only been following the IRC logs the past 2 days but this guy wanted to help and I wasn't sure how involved you were :P |
| 12:59.24 | [Oli-HD2] | So i´m off.. i have to do some things.. i would be back soon.. |
| 12:59.33 | leviathan | NeoFlux: you have auto :P |
| 12:59.38 | leviathan | line ending configured? |
| 12:59.49 | NeoFlux | leviathan: Nick completition? :P |
| 13:00.19 | leviathan | you have a hanging tongue smile after each line? |
| 13:00.23 | leviathan | is that wanted? |
| 13:00.34 | NeoFlux | Not sure :( |
| 13:00.36 | NeoFlux | haha |
| 13:00.36 | tsamolotoff | NeoFlux: I still don't understand what did you imply with that statement |
| 13:00.55 | NeoFlux | tsamolotoff: Wasn't trying to imply anything, so I'm sorry if I've offended you |
| 13:01.11 | leviathan | :-) |
| 13:01.14 | leviathan | anyways |
| 13:01.18 | tsamolotoff | NeoFlux: no, not at all, I can't be offended now, i'm too happy that this kernel did actually boot |
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| 13:01.28 | leviathan | which kernel? |
| 13:01.31 | leviathan | upstream? |
| 13:01.38 | leviathan | I'm hacking on it for two days now |
| 13:01.40 | leviathan | nothing |
| 13:01.44 | tsamolotoff | leviathan: are you referring to me? |
| 13:01.49 | leviathan | jup |
| 13:02.07 | tsamolotoff | leviathan: htc-msm-2.6.32 |
| 13:02.10 | tsamolotoff | on acer s200 |
| 13:02.12 | leviathan | oh, ok |
| 13:02.32 | leviathan | please inform me, as soon we can do fso development for it ^_^ |
| 13:03.16 | NeoFlux | Does the s200 and leo share the same chipset? |
| 13:03.24 | tsamolotoff | apparently yes |
| 13:03.39 | NeoFlux | interesting |
| 13:03.39 | tsamolotoff | if it required only some minor ram base tweaks |
| 13:08.58 | NeoFlux | Would be pretty awesome if HTC turned round and gave us Android for the HD2! :D |
| 13:09.21 | NeoFlux | I want an Android based phone, but I don't want to give up on my HD2 |
| 13:09.32 | NeoFlux | And the EVO won't be getting sold in the UK |
| 13:10.11 | tsamolotoff | NeoFlux: I really don't understand those who buy ce based PDA and want to have it with android ... there's almost the same desire or liquid for those who want something smaller |
| 13:10.34 | tsamolotoff | I really like CE, and linux (not android, ftw) is just for fun) |
| 13:11.10 | gauner1986 | tsamolotoff: because playing with it is fun |
| 13:11.11 | gauner1986 | :) |
| 13:11.35 | gauner1986 | linux porting is fun.. not in leos case unfortunately, but hey |
| 13:11.39 | NeoFlux | tsamolotoff: Don't get me wrong, the CE OS is alright, but it's getting dated and we aren't entitled to have Windows Phone 7 :/ |
| 13:12.07 | gauner1986 | NeoFlux: Da_G will definetly find a way |
| 13:12.16 | NeoFlux | Maybe :) |
| 13:12.25 | NeoFlux | But if I was to go for one OS, it would be Android |
| 13:12.26 | leviathan | we learned lately that htc is miles away from cooperative |
| 13:12.27 | leviathan | ... |
| 13:12.29 | NeoFlux | Just because opensource is ftw |
| 13:12.48 | leviathan | same for android... |
| 13:12.48 | tsamolotoff | NeoFlux: Even if acer somehow got MS to allow them to port microsoft iPhone 7 to s200 (it makes me retch even now), i wouldn't bother to purchase an upgrade |
| 13:12.52 | leviathan | anyway |
| 13:12.56 | leviathan | other channel ^^ |
| 13:13.25 | tsamolotoff | however, maemo/meego or some debian-based distro would be interesting |
| 13:13.50 | NeoFlux | leviathan: other channel? |
| 13:19.28 | leviathan | NeoFlux: openmoko-cdevel |
| 13:19.30 | leviathan | :-) |
| 13:20.02 | leviathan | I'm using SHR on all my phones |
| 13:20.11 | leviathan | with FSO2 underly'n |
| 13:20.23 | leviathan | and I can tell you something |
| 13:20.33 | leviathan | drivers coming from android are unusable |
| 13:20.44 | leviathan | not even the NAND driver is implemented right |
| 13:20.46 | leviathan | -.- |
| 13:20.55 | NeoFlux | eek |
| 13:21.26 | leviathan | NeoFlux: http://gitorious.org/htc-msm-2-6-32/leviathan-incoming/commits/msm-gnuconform |
| 13:21.31 | leviathan | the last few days |
| 13:21.46 | leviathan | I invested to implement the last bit of basic functionality |
| 13:21.55 | leviathan | so that I could use compression |
| 13:22.26 | leviathan | and found out at the end, that they didn't do right the minimalistic features they did |
| 13:22.52 | leviathan | not only, that they only did the minimum |
| 13:22.59 | leviathan | they even did it wrong too |
| 13:23.00 | leviathan | -.- |
| 13:23.11 | leviathan | I've enough |
| 13:23.20 | leviathan | I'll buy now a serial connector |
| 13:23.27 | NeoFlux | a bit of a kick in the balls then |
| 13:23.37 | leviathan | a bit? -_- |
| 13:23.43 | NeoFlux | :P |
| 13:24.54 | leviathan | at least now I know, where all the sleeping students in the lecture room for my El-Ing.-study will get a job later >_< |
| 13:25.29 | leviathan | soooo, incompetent, that it even hurts |
| 13:25.37 | leviathan | and the hardware isnt better |
| 13:25.39 | leviathan | -.- |
| 13:25.57 | leviathan | I guess, I'll buy a toshiba smartphone next >_< |
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| 13:31.07 | Vr|3Z0 | hi all |
| 13:31.16 | tsamolotoff | leviathan: no wai))) |
| 13:31.27 | tsamolotoff | toshiba never did a proper s-phone |
| 13:31.39 | tsamolotoff | as former owner of tosh g900 |
| 13:31.46 | IncognitoMan | they made a awesome mp3 player though... |
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| 13:31.54 | leviathan | hmm |
| 13:32.02 | leviathan | okee |
| 13:32.08 | leviathan | laptops of them are good |
| 13:32.09 | leviathan | :-) |
| 13:33.03 | leviathan | I just need a cooperative company |
| 13:33.15 | leviathan | which allows me to write usable drivers |
| 13:33.33 | leviathan | if I would have known |
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| 13:33.40 | leviathan | how jackass qualcomm is |
| 13:33.52 | leviathan | I never would have wasted money for theire devices -.- |
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| 13:39.32 | tsamolotoff | leviathan: I reckon it's HTC here to blame... There's a full feature set of qsd8x50 on s200 - you can watch 720p videos, there's gles1.1 and 2.0 without any chainfire fixes and so on... one thing that is missing - mediaFLO |
| 13:39.52 | tsamolotoff | or do you mean NDA and the other stuff? |
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| 13:45.09 | leviathan | tsamolotoff: NDA |
| 13:45.10 | leviathan | yes |
| 13:45.29 | leviathan | and especely the email I got recently |
| 13:45.30 | leviathan | -_- |
| 13:45.49 | leviathan | anyway |
| 13:46.18 | leviathan | I'm ordering a serial cable |
| 13:46.29 | leviathan | then I will vivisect the device |
| 13:46.31 | leviathan | :-) |
| 13:57.29 | phh | has someone got xf86-video-msm working on qsd yet ? |
| 13:57.37 | phh | hum xda's N1 debian thread perhaps. |
| 13:58.18 | phh | ok it's in their todo list |
| 14:03.56 | phh | https://www.codeaurora.org/gitweb/quic/le/?p=kernel/msm.git;a=commit;h=91647d8e33bf5e18820a767f0280e47dfce99a27 <------- 8x60 has virtualisations \o/ |
| 14:07.33 | tsamolotoff | phh: btw, what's the difference between x50 and x60 apart from higher cpu freq? |
| 14:07.45 | phh | 45nm |
| 14:07.50 | phh | virtualisation :p |
| 14:07.58 | phh | way higher gpu capabilities |
| 14:08.00 | phh | dual core I think |
| 14:08.21 | phh | and I still haven't seen any doc about it. |
| 14:08.24 | tsamolotoff | i thought x72 were dual-core |
| 14:08.25 | phh | just rumours. |
| 14:08.30 | phh | let me check |
| 14:09.12 | phh | http://www.qualcomm.com/products_services/chipsets/snapdragon.html |
| 14:09.17 | phh | only x50 and x72 exists for qualcomm -_-' |
| 14:10.01 | phh | tsamolotoff: https://www.codeaurora.org/gitweb/quic/le/?p=kernel/msm.git;a=blob;f=arch/arm/mach-msm/acpuclock-8x60.c;h=b8a61e8f5cb26bfebff0140cf66c1a7bd6e4a785;hb=refs/heads/android-msm-2.6.32 |
| 14:10.06 | phh | acpuclock-8x60.c |
| 14:10.10 | phh | it mention CPU0 and CPU1 |
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| 14:10.38 | tsamolotoff | phh: ok then, they lied in 2009 press release on 8x60 :)))) |
| 14:10.44 | phh | lol |
| 14:11.06 | phh | 8x72 doesn't exist in their source code |
| 14:11.18 | phh | loves qualcomm |
| 14:12.35 | tsamolotoff | loves money |
| 14:12.39 | tsamolotoff | lol |
| 14:14.23 | tsamolotoff | i remember that there was a msm6280 in tosh g900 solely as baseband core ) Perfect use for q-com SoCs))) |
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| 18:49.34 | drellisdee | hey I've got a question about using repo sync as I've never used it before. After I repo init in a new working dir and repo sync when I open the working dir it shows empty but repo sync is downloading objects |
| 18:52.05 | NetRipper | repo sync? |
| 18:52.09 | NetRipper | you mean git? |
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| 18:52.27 | zfxp | whats going on today |
| 18:52.50 | NetRipper | see topic for log on what's going on ;) |
| 18:53.05 | zfxp | Quick q |
| 18:53.14 | zfxp | When i put my sdcard in |
| 18:53.21 | zfxp | I keep getting error about data timeout.. |
| 18:58.23 | drellisdee | yes using repo to download project from git |
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| 20:41.21 | phh | ~seen bzo |
| 20:41.25 | apt | bzo <~chatzilla@netblock-68-183-234-14.dslextreme.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #htc-linux, 12d 20m 38s ago, saying: 'so are there uart pins somewhere or are you going to use the usb connectors?'. |
| 20:41.26 | phh | apt: ? |
| 20:41.28 | phh | ah. |
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| 21:12.00 | [Oli-HD2] | hello |
| 21:13.27 | [Oli-HD2] | I read some informations about the serial connection over micro-usb at the nexus one.. |
| 21:13.57 | dan1j3l1 | hi guys... if anyone want to try kernel without mdp irg errors or try one of my builded rootfs you can download it here: http://woptimize.com/htc-leo/ |
| 21:14.47 | [Oli-HD2] | at the post you could readout that serial ttl logic level (i think 3,3V) would be available at d+ and d- pin of the micro usb connector |
| 21:15.11 | [Oli-HD2] | but only if it doesn´t would powered by the VUSB (+5V) |
| 21:15.39 | [Oli-HD2] | here are the post : TTL level serial is available on the D+/D- pins of the microusb connector, whenever VBUS (usb power) is not present. /dev/ttyMSM0 |
| 21:15.57 | [Oli-HD2] | could be found here: http://torvalds-family.blogspot.com/2010/02/happy-camper.html?showComment=1265528826941#c1560421512945796421 |
| 21:16.48 | [Oli-HD2] | but what of these two pins would be RxD and TxD he doesn´t told |
| 21:19.37 | [Oli-HD2] | does anybody mail to Daniel Walker for asking what excactly we needing for use the kernel with UART ??? I think he could told us also what of these two Pinouts would be RxD and TxD !! |
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| 21:23.26 | [Oli-HD2] | or anybody know something about the UART Connection and have do some test already ?? |
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| 21:26.00 | tsamolotoff | dcordes: did you try to write some code with thumb asm and traditional asm and check that it crashes/doesn't crash? |
| 21:28.49 | [Oli-HD2] | ok guys... i have to wakeup mornig really early.. i´m now offline. |
| 21:28.50 | [Oli-HD2] | ok guys... i have to wakeup mornig really early.. i´m now offline. |
| 21:28.55 | [Oli-HD2] | ok guys... i have to wakeup mornig really early.. i´m now offline. |
| 21:29.03 | [Oli-HD2] | ok guys... i have to wakeup mornig really early.. i´m now offline |
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| 22:05.21 | danibjor | dan1j3l1, around? |
| 22:05.40 | dan1j3l1 | yes... i'm here... :) |
| 22:05.46 | danibjor | great |
| 22:06.03 | danibjor | saw a recent post on xda from you about a test kernel |
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| 22:06.23 | danibjor | how do you get this stuff up and running? ext formatted memory card? |
| 22:06.52 | danibjor | could you post a quick howto or somthing to get people up and running.. |
| 22:07.22 | dan1j3l1 | you can test with ramdisk (initrd) or untar one of rootfs to second partition of your sd card (ext2) |
| 22:07.36 | danibjor | got my ubuntu VM up and running with dev tools and kernel/nix sources.. but could use a hint or two to get this running on the phone |
| 22:07.57 | dan1j3l1 | i usualy work with second part... |
| 22:08.47 | dan1j3l1 | it's easier to use ramdisk (initrd), like on dcordes media player... |
| 22:09.03 | dan1j3l1 | because you don't need to format sd card |
| 22:10.04 | danibjor | would uou like to share a default.txt for haret? |
| 22:10.44 | dan1j3l1 | ok, just a moment... |
| 22:12.34 | dan1j3l1 | it's on my site (folder with kernels) |
| 22:15.12 | danibjor | ah.. my bad.. saw the everything but the default |
| 22:15.15 | danibjor | thanks |
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| 22:15.33 | dan1j3l1 | :) |
| 22:16.27 | dan1j3l1 | i'm going to sleep now... must get up early and go to work... :( |
| 22:16.38 | dan1j3l1 | night guys... |
| 22:18.08 | danibjor | night |
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| 23:40.30 | NetRipper | dcordes, you here? |
| 23:43.27 | NetRipper | dcordes, sent you a reply via ML, im off to bed now |
| 23:43.28 | NetRipper | :) |
