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| 00:07.20 | dcordes | ToAsTcfh: evo ships without display driver ? |
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| 00:23.49 | vpeezy | anyone install project android on a touch pro 2? i need help getting the backlight to work. i updated zimage still no dice. |
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| 00:40.38 | ToAsTcfh | dcordes: no the evo doesnt have but some makeshift source i made for it. using some board files that a friend of mine got me for it. |
| 00:40.42 | wnpixel | dcordes No, but they are purposefully capping 2D and 3D at 30 fps... classic HTC |
| 00:41.05 | wnpixel | makes me furious |
| 00:41.08 | wnpixel | :/ |
| 00:41.11 | ToAsTcfh | eh |
| 00:41.15 | ToAsTcfh | not that bad |
| 00:41.50 | wnpixel | I just tried playing a video at more than 30fps and the audio was totally out of sync |
| 00:41.52 | ToAsTcfh | once we get my source up and running fully itll be easy to fix if its no in deed hardware |
| 00:42.03 | ToAsTcfh | no way |
| 00:42.26 | ToAsTcfh | heroC plays video at 26fps and it plays smooth |
| 00:42.43 | ToAsTcfh | 30 is low but usablr |
| 00:43.04 | wnpixel | As a developer |
| 00:43.08 | wnpixel | i want htc to suceed |
| 00:43.14 | ToAsTcfh | heh |
| 00:43.19 | ToAsTcfh | yeah |
| 00:43.21 | wnpixel | so the market gets better |
| 00:43.26 | wnpixel | this does not help |
| 00:43.37 | wnpixel | especially if a customer is coming from an iPhone |
| 00:43.45 | ToAsTcfh | market is already awesome. |
| 00:43.59 | ToAsTcfh | iphones suck compared to any android device |
| 00:44.07 | ToAsTcfh | even a g1 |
| 00:44.08 | ToAsTcfh | :P |
| 00:44.25 | wnpixel | well thats debatable, but the market for games on android is not as good |
| 00:44.32 | wnpixel | and this wont help at all |
| 00:44.41 | ToAsTcfh | because its only a few years old |
| 00:44.59 | ToAsTcfh | and only 1 year of decent cpus |
| 00:45.27 | ToAsTcfh | 1 year of actual developers watching to see where android goes |
| 00:45.32 | wnpixel | dont get me wrong, i love my evo, i love android |
| 00:45.32 | ToAsTcfh | its a baby |
| 00:45.36 | wnpixel | well |
| 00:45.40 | wnpixel | i actually think its a monster |
| 00:45.41 | wnpixel | right now |
| 00:45.48 | wnpixel | 100,000+ activations a day |
| 00:45.50 | ToAsTcfh | but its young |
| 00:45.57 | ToAsTcfh | the os |
| 00:46.09 | wnpixel | yeah well im not bashing android in any way |
| 00:46.12 | ToAsTcfh | its popular yes |
| 00:46.13 | wnpixel | im talking about htc |
| 00:46.28 | ToAsTcfh | htc also makes some awesome devices |
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| 00:46.45 | ToAsTcfh | but ur not gonna find a better quality samsung |
| 00:46.49 | ToAsTcfh | :P |
| 00:47.18 | wnpixel | well i just think they could do better |
| 00:47.27 | wnpixel | 30fps is unacceptable :/ |
| 00:47.31 | ToAsTcfh | well this device is a first |
| 00:47.46 | wnpixel | its a trivial decision for them |
| 00:47.49 | ToAsTcfh | this is the first android device like this |
| 00:47.59 | wnpixel | one line of code |
| 00:48.05 | wnpixel | to make the hottest gadget of the year |
| 00:48.08 | wnpixel | that much hotter |
| 00:48.16 | wnpixel | yet they wont do it |
| 00:48.18 | ToAsTcfh | is it |
| 00:48.25 | ToAsTcfh | did u find it |
| 00:48.34 | ToAsTcfh | do u know what the issue is |
| 00:48.45 | ToAsTcfh | i can fix and add it if u do |
| 00:49.05 | ToAsTcfh | im just working on hardware at the moment. |
| 00:49.22 | ToAsTcfh | once its functional then we can move on to tweaking |
| 00:49.33 | ToAsTcfh | thats like OC on the evo |
| 00:49.38 | ToAsTcfh | pointless atm |
| 00:49.56 | ToAsTcfh | look at my phone haul ass doing nothing |
| 00:49.58 | ToAsTcfh | :P |
| 00:50.01 | wnpixel | lol |
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| 00:50.28 | ToAsTcfh | have u repo'd my git |
| 00:50.34 | ToAsTcfh | are u a coder |
| 00:50.52 | ToAsTcfh | got some C skills for us |
| 00:51.12 | ToAsTcfh | wanna stab people and blame it on htc |
| 00:51.18 | ToAsTcfh | :P |
| 00:53.07 | ToAsTcfh | meh maybe not |
| 00:53.09 | ToAsTcfh | :/ |
| 00:54.29 | wnpixel | I dont know man, as much as I love the hacking community, I think there are some things we just shouldnt have to hack in the first place.. Like the 30fps issue, or the touch screen lag... They are quality control issues and instead of wasting our life on issues like that we could be building amazing software. Yet average consumers with an evo are blaming the developers because the games |
| 00:54.35 | wnpixel | they're buying are running poorly |
| 00:54.37 | ToAsTcfh | wtf my usb is acting crazy to night |
| 00:55.25 | ToAsTcfh | meh idk. im a kernel guy :P |
| 00:55.41 | ToAsTcfh | i see the point for sure |
| 00:56.09 | ToAsTcfh | but if htc says it cant be done and chose not to do it. were prolly gonna find the same shit |
| 00:56.30 | ToAsTcfh | i mean do u think they were like fuck it |
| 00:56.32 | ToAsTcfh | naw |
| 00:56.47 | ToAsTcfh | they proly had to make the choice for a reason |
| 00:57.05 | ToAsTcfh | idk what reason |
| 00:57.12 | ToAsTcfh | im just assuming |
| 00:57.21 | wnpixel | yeah, right, just like they did with the tilt |
| 00:57.29 | ToAsTcfh | what |
| 00:57.37 | ToAsTcfh | wrong with the tit |
| 00:57.45 | wnpixel | the htc tilt |
| 00:57.52 | ToAsTcfh | what about it |
| 00:58.18 | wnpixel | no drivers dude |
| 00:58.24 | ToAsTcfh | huh |
| 00:58.35 | ToAsTcfh | it needs drivers to work :P |
| 00:58.42 | wnpixel | uh yes |
| 00:58.50 | wnpixel | but they used generic and basic drivers |
| 00:58.51 | ToAsTcfh | so it doesnt work |
| 00:58.55 | ToAsTcfh | ah |
| 00:58.56 | ToAsTcfh | like |
| 00:59.00 | ToAsTcfh | ?! |
| 00:59.09 | wnpixel | because they didnt want to pay royalties to qualcomm |
| 00:59.21 | ToAsTcfh | like what drivers |
| 00:59.35 | wnpixel | video drivers |
| 00:59.45 | ToAsTcfh | so it uses what? |
| 01:00.05 | wnpixel | a generic video driver, what else |
| 01:00.14 | ToAsTcfh | um ok |
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| 01:00.28 | ToAsTcfh | so opengl doesnt work? |
| 01:00.31 | wnpixel | not at all |
| 01:00.35 | ToAsTcfh | ah |
| 01:00.41 | ToAsTcfh | thats a bitch |
| 01:00.50 | wnpixel | like running windows 95 in safe mode |
| 01:01.02 | ToAsTcfh | maybe it was the carrier that wanted the device to be cheaper |
| 01:01.11 | wnpixel | nope... all models affected |
| 01:01.38 | ToAsTcfh | is the tilt a high dollar phone |
| 01:01.46 | wnpixel | it was in its time |
| 01:01.49 | wnpixel | 60-+ |
| 01:01.51 | wnpixel | 600+ |
| 01:02.00 | ToAsTcfh | when was that |
| 01:02.08 | wnpixel | 2007 i believe |
| 01:02.11 | ToAsTcfh | sorry idk much about the tilt |
| 01:02.16 | wnpixel | its okay |
| 01:02.50 | ToAsTcfh | so ur talking winmo |
| 01:02.51 | wnpixel | im not going to like, back then it was fine.. its not like we were playing games and we were going to watch 1080 videos on a qvga screen |
| 01:03.01 | wnpixel | lie( |
| 01:03.03 | wnpixel | yeah |
| 01:03.49 | ToAsTcfh | well were pimping opengl 2.0 now |
| 01:03.58 | ToAsTcfh | latest and greatet |
| 01:04.00 | wnpixel | yea |
| 01:04.15 | ToAsTcfh | N1 was the first snapdragon phone |
| 01:04.50 | ToAsTcfh | btw i heard there are some roms from google capping fps on the N1 is that tru |
| 01:04.56 | wnpixel | no |
| 01:05.11 | wnpixel | prolly stupid user error |
| 01:05.15 | ToAsTcfh | thats what i heard. MR builds |
| 01:05.23 | wnpixel | i heard about the cap |
| 01:05.23 | wnpixel | but |
| 01:05.26 | wnpixel | it only on 2D |
| 01:05.29 | wnpixel | just like the droid |
| 01:05.36 | wnpixel | 3d was not affected at all |
| 01:05.57 | wnpixel | and it was an actual bug rather than a "feature" like the evo |
| 01:06.18 | ToAsTcfh | dude my fuckin usb is acting crazy |
| 01:06.32 | wnpixel | on ur phone ? |
| 01:06.33 | wnpixel | lol |
| 01:06.34 | ToAsTcfh | its my linux box i know |
| 01:06.38 | wnpixel | oh |
| 01:07.25 | ToAsTcfh | i rebooted my box a bit ago and usb was fine. i unplugged the phone a few time testing kernels and shit and now my usb is trashed again |
| 01:07.40 | ToAsTcfh | PITA |
| 01:07.43 | wnpixel | LOL |
| 01:07.52 | wnpixel | maybe its the cable ? |
| 01:08.13 | wnpixel | from using it so much |
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| 02:11.40 | wnpixel | seems like the 30fps cap on the evo is indeed hardware |
| 02:11.49 | wnpixel | I guess its going back |
| 02:12.43 | wnpixel | http://forum.sdx-developers.com/news/htc-evo-fps-capped-at-30fps/msg55940/#msg55940 |
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| 09:51.53 | vadmeste | Hi. Is it true that A11 and A9 processors communicate by RPC ? |
| 09:53.33 | phh | yes |
| 09:54.01 | phh | (but RPC doesn't mean anything but communication with functions calls /o\) |
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| 09:57.09 | vadmeste | yes I see now.. It's how AT commands are sent.. a11 SMD driver makes RPC calls to send AT commands. Right ? |
| 10:06.38 | phh | not at all. |
| 10:07.10 | phh | SMD is a way of doing serial port over shared memory |
| 10:07.23 | phh | there are many channels available |
| 10:07.27 | phh | one is for AT commands |
| 10:07.30 | phh | one is for RPC calls |
| 10:07.39 | phh | (one for NMEA, one for data) |
| 10:07.53 | phh | (and perhaps still others I can't think of) |
| 10:07.56 | phh | (diagnostic too.) |
| 10:11.01 | vadmeste | the radio ROM reads the shared memory to receive AT commands ? |
| 10:11.32 | phh | yes |
| 10:12.28 | vadmeste | emm and in general the code source of radio ROM are closed ? right ? |
| 10:13.16 | phh | yup |
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| 12:58.28 | vadmeste | The problem that I have a document which shows that for qualcomm msm7200A, a11, a9 and USIM are connected by Peripheral bridages |
| 12:58.56 | vadmeste | so apparently a11 can send data directly to the USIM through UART |
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| 13:02.40 | vadmeste | s/bridages/bridges |
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| 14:27.32 | phh | vadmeste: not really |
| 14:27.38 | phh | vadmeste: this bridge is the the AXI bus ? |
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| 14:28.12 | phh | it's just a memory controler |
| 14:28.34 | phh | A9 would have to behave like a memory itself, so it's just more logic to do shared memory |
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| 14:38.59 | vadmeste | phh, http://imagebin.ca/view/lVL0hO.html |
| 14:39.32 | vadmeste | it's qualcomm msm7200A architecture |
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| 14:40.34 | vadmeste | the USIM is in the right top of the figure |
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| 14:42.34 | phh | vadmeste: "peripheral bridge" means what it means. |
| 14:42.38 | phh | that it's to access peripherals |
| 14:42.49 | phh | (UART, crypto, SD, clock, etc) |
| 14:43.24 | phh | there are some IRQs that can go directly from A9 to A11 |
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| 14:43.25 | phh | but that's all |
| 14:43.36 | phh | (on newer qualcomms they use SDIO rather than shared memory) |
| 14:47.27 | vadmeste | do you mean that actually USIM is not necessarly plugged in UART ? |
| 14:48.42 | phh | ? |
| 14:49.04 | phh | wait. |
| 14:49.15 | phh | I thought you were still on A9-A11 communication. |
| 14:49.21 | phh | sorry |
| 14:50.10 | vadmeste | no problem |
| 14:51.39 | vadmeste | so my point is, when we consider the figure that I posted, do you think that A11 is always not able to send data directly the sim card ? :) |
| 14:52.23 | phh | A9 superseeds any A11 action on GPIOs |
| 14:52.30 | phh | so theorically, it shouldn't be able to do anything |
| 14:52.48 | phh | you can try to set gpios on your own though |
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| 16:27.27 | GNUtoo | hi |
| 16:28.41 | GNUtoo | what is the GPIO number connected to wl1251 irq line |
| 16:28.45 | GNUtoo | I found 2 gpios |
| 16:29.43 | GNUtoo | #define TROUT_GPIO_WIFI_PA_RESETX (TROUT_GPIO_MISC4_BASE + 6) |
| 16:29.43 | GNUtoo | #define TROUT_GPIO_WIFI_EN (TROUT_GPIO_MISC4_BASE + 7) |
| 16:30.03 | GNUtoo | basically here's the background |
| 16:30.13 | GNUtoo | I've huge issues with PSM on wl1251_sdio |
| 16:30.18 | GNUtoo | under the htcdream |
| 16:30.49 | GNUtoo | I was told: |
| 16:30.59 | GNUtoo | Are you using the dedicated irq line or sdio interrupt? It makes a big difference in overall throughput to use the former. |
| 16:31.13 | phh | you use sdio |
| 16:31.20 | GNUtoo | and that: |
| 16:31.21 | GNUtoo | wl1251_pdata.irq = gpio_to_irq(WIFI_IRQ_GPIO); |
| 16:31.25 | GNUtoo | yes I use sdio |
| 16:31.26 | phh | oh. |
| 16:31.31 | phh | you changed your code |
| 16:31.35 | phh | so dedicated irq line :p |
| 16:31.50 | GNUtoo | I didn't change anything |
| 16:32.06 | GNUtoo | but I was told in a mail in the wireless kernel mailing list to do so |
| 16:32.12 | phh | right |
| 16:32.19 | phh | (I also told you so some times ago :p) |
| 16:32.26 | GNUtoo | ah so sorry then |
| 16:32.35 | GNUtoo | you also told me to test a memory patch |
| 16:32.43 | GNUtoo | we told leviathan to test it |
| 16:32.48 | GNUtoo | not shure if he tested it |
| 16:32.49 | GNUtoo | anyway |
| 16:33.01 | GNUtoo | what's the GPIO? |
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| 16:33.06 | GNUtoo | TROUT_GPIO_WIFI_EN ? |
| 16:33.09 | phh | no |
| 16:33.09 | GNUtoo | or TROUT_GPIO_WIFI_PA_RESETX ? |
| 16:33.14 | GNUtoo | or another one? |
| 16:33.15 | phh | no either |
| 16:33.19 | phh | another one |
| 16:33.19 | GNUtoo | ok |
| 16:33.22 | phh | I think it's 33 or 2ç |
| 16:33.24 | phh | 29* |
| 16:33.48 | GNUtoo | ? |
| 16:34.30 | phh | groumpf where is it |
| 16:34.44 | GNUtoo | should I pastebin the header? |
| 16:35.02 | GNUtoo | board-trout.h |
| 16:35.10 | GNUtoo | that's where I found the 2 wrong gpios |
| 16:35.54 | phh | I don't think they are wrong |
| 16:36.06 | phh | oh right, everything is in the wiki. |
| 16:36.20 | GNUtoo | ok I'll look |
| 16:36.25 | phh | 29 |
| 16:36.39 | phh | ./pform/linux/src/esta_drv.c:#define TROUT_IRQ MSM_GPIO_TO_INT(29) |
| 16:36.47 | phh | (yes, this gpio is hardcoded in the driver) |
| 16:36.48 | GNUtoo | thanks a lot |
| 16:37.42 | GNUtoo | btw while I'm at it what did you tell me and that I forgott to do? |
| 16:38.02 | phh | I think there is only memory and this gpio irq thing |
| 16:38.08 | GNUtoo | ok |
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| 16:39.24 | GNUtoo | esta_drv.c is the ti driver? |
| 16:39.49 | phh | yup |
| 16:40.02 | GNUtoo | ok thanks a lot!!! |
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| 17:01.01 | GNUtoo | | arch/arm/mach-msm/board-trout.c:749: error: 'struct wifi_platform_data' has no member named 'irq' |
| 17:01.03 | GNUtoo | hmmm |
| 17:01.28 | dcordes | hi |
| 17:01.47 | GNUtoo | I'll change that |
| 17:01.50 | GNUtoo | hi |
| 17:01.58 | dcordes | LeTama: ping |
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| 17:04.15 | GNUtoo | include/linux/wifi_tiwlan.h |
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| 17:04.58 | dcordes | git clone git://codeaurora.org/quic/kernel/dwalker/linux-msm.git <- working tree for msm mainline |
| 17:05.12 | dcordes | leviathan: do you have it already? |
| 17:05.32 | phh | GNUtoo: haha |
| 17:05.35 | phh | it's not wifi_platform_data |
| 17:05.57 | GNUtoo | ah? |
| 17:06.09 | phh | na, it's wl1251's own structure |
| 17:06.12 | phh | I don't know what it looks like |
| 17:06.24 | GNUtoo | ok I'll look |
| 17:06.37 | dcordes | GNUtoo: you might as well get that tree |
| 17:07.08 | GNUtoo | dcordes, which tree? |
| 17:07.15 | dcordes | hmm |
| 17:07.16 | GNUtoo | ah ok |
| 17:07.28 | leviathan | dcordes: I'll try it outa |
| 17:07.31 | dcordes | it has initla dream code already |
| 17:07.31 | leviathan | *out |
| 17:07.34 | GNUtoo | it's based on 2.6.32 |
| 17:07.42 | leviathan | as soon as this platine is finished soldered |
| 17:07.47 | dcordes | leviathan: it's what the mainline guys work one |
| 17:07.53 | leviathan | GNUtoo: for-next is based on 2.6.35 |
| 17:07.59 | GNUtoo | ok nice |
| 17:08.03 | leviathan | dcordes: I know |
| 17:08.03 | dcordes | leviathan: I hope you are working pb free! |
| 17:08.22 | leviathan | dcordes: thats what daniel walker told me, and he suggested to buy this serial cable |
| 17:08.31 | leviathan | I already had in farnell bought |
| 17:08.44 | leviathan | dcordes: its HF stuff |
| 17:08.51 | leviathan | so its special composition |
| 17:09.03 | leviathan | and no |
| 17:09.07 | leviathan | it has pb |
| 17:09.20 | GNUtoo | phh static struct platform_device trout_wifi ? |
| 17:09.24 | dcordes | leviathan: is the conversation on the list? |
| 17:09.43 | GNUtoo | it has trout_wifi_control as platform data |
| 17:10.00 | GNUtoo | which is a wifi_platform_data struct |
| 17:10.07 | dcordes | leviathan: I'm only using the healthy rohs solder |
| 17:10.27 | phh | GNUtoo: don't know |
| 17:10.34 | GNUtoo | ok |
| 17:10.37 | dcordes | the codeaurora git is fing slow |
| 17:10.51 | GNUtoo | grepping for wl12 didn't return something usefull |
| 17:11.01 | dcordes | NetRipper: ping |
| 17:11.08 | GNUtoo | so I think I should try with wifi_platform_data |
| 17:11.14 | phh | GNUtoo: ok let me look |
| 17:11.20 | GNUtoo | ok thanks a lot |
| 17:11.27 | GNUtoo | do you need a tree address? |
| 17:11.42 | GNUtoo | http://gitorious.org/htc-msm-2-6-32/leviathan-incoming |
| 17:11.58 | GNUtoo | msm-gnuconform branch |
| 17:12.53 | dcordes | ~lart codeaurora server for being slow |
| 17:12.53 | apt | blames codeaurora server for all the evil in the world for being slow |
| 17:12.53 | dcordes | I'm going to the library to have fast internet and all I get is slow servers |
| 17:12.54 | GNUtoo | lol |
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| 17:14.38 | dcordes | leviathan: GNUtoo when is the next geek event? we should do small gnu@htc-linux convention |
| 17:15.30 | leviathan | dcordes: we have in ethz the froscon |
| 17:15.41 | leviathan | oops |
| 17:15.43 | leviathan | froscamp |
| 17:15.45 | GNUtoo | dcordes, normally there should be a FSOSHRCON |
| 17:15.45 | leviathan | =) |
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| 17:15.56 | leviathan | http://wiki.froscamp.org/2010 |
| 17:16.06 | phh | GNUtoo: ok they have weird stuff |
| 17:16.15 | GNUtoo | ok |
| 17:16.22 | leviathan | http://wiki.froscamp.org/Welcome |
| 17:16.24 | leviathan | oops |
| 17:16.25 | leviathan | here |
| 17:16.27 | phh | (not hard thouogh) |
| 17:16.49 | GNUtoo | ah ok so what should I do? |
| 17:16.55 | GNUtoo | add the .int irq |
| 17:16.57 | phh | wait a second, I'm doing a patch |
| 17:17.00 | GNUtoo | ok |
| 17:17.02 | GNUtoo | thanks a lot!!! |
| 17:17.32 | phh | GNUtoo: how do you poweron usb again ? |
| 17:17.40 | GNUtoo | ? |
| 17:17.58 | phh | wifi* |
| 17:17.59 | phh | not usb |
| 17:18.17 | GNUtoo | yes it's sdio |
| 17:18.24 | phh | how do you power it on ? |
| 17:18.25 | GNUtoo | ah ok |
| 17:18.27 | phh | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:18.32 | GNUtoo | modprobe msm_wifi |
| 17:18.35 | phh | ok |
| 17:18.41 | GNUtoo | it's bob copeland's module |
| 17:18.42 | phh | wl1251 guy implemented something proper |
| 17:18.49 | phh | first the irq. |
| 17:19.00 | GNUtoo | ok |
| 17:19.12 | NetRipper | dcordes, pong |
| 17:19.24 | dcordes | NetRipper: hi how goes it? |
| 17:20.06 | NetRipper | dcordes, anything in particular? |
| 17:20.07 | NetRipper | :p |
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| 17:21.14 | phh | GNUtoo: http://husson.hd.free.fr/plop.diff |
| 17:21.19 | phh | GNUtoo: but you need to update the wifi driver |
| 17:21.22 | GNUtoo | thanks a lot |
| 17:21.23 | GNUtoo | ok |
| 17:21.25 | dcordes | NetRipper: do you want to join my mission of booting the mainline stuff on leo ? |
| 17:21.37 | phh | dedicated IRQ line has been commited 16th march |
| 17:21.41 | phh | ( git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/linville/wireless-testing.git;a=commitdiff;h=a02a2956809d88b42b9a1f8003d60a343353b5ea ) |
| 17:21.45 | phh | +http:// |
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| 17:22.09 | NetRipper | dcordes, hm, i was planning on starting from scratch on the android-msm-2.6.32 again hehe |
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| 17:22.30 | GNUtoo | phh, if I use wireless-compat it's ok? |
| 17:22.36 | phh | GNUtoo: I'd guess so |
| 17:22.46 | phh | GNUtoo: you'll have a problem with the include I added though |
| 17:22.48 | dcordes | NetRipper: you should also make a cable |
| 17:22.49 | NetRipper | dcordes, btw, what do you mean by mainline? |
| 17:22.52 | GNUtoo | ok thanks a lot |
| 17:22.55 | GNUtoo | ah? |
| 17:22.57 | phh | copy paste the struct wl12xx_platform_data |
| 17:23.06 | phh | and drop the #include |
| 17:23.12 | phh | NetRipper: vanilla, linus |
| 17:23.14 | dcordes | NetRipper: well more precisely I mean the tree daniel walker and the other QIC Inc. hackers work ibn |
| 17:23.20 | NetRipper | dcordes, did you succesfully make a cable? |
| 17:23.27 | phh | dcordes: ah, not linus' tree yet ? |
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| 17:23.40 | dcordes | NetRipper: no but I will have one by friday |
| 17:23.41 | phh | [acl]_: get a connection. |
| 17:23.52 | GNUtoo | phh, copy-paste? where? but it's in a board-trout |
| 17:24.02 | phh | struct wl12xx_platform_data { |
| 17:24.02 | phh | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:24.02 | phh | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:24.02 | phh | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:24.02 | phh | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:24.03 | phh | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:24.05 | NetRipper | dcordes, make one yourself or out-of-the-box? |
| 17:24.27 | GNUtoo | I think the best way is to try |
| 17:24.38 | dcordes | NetRipper: make one myself. but it's fairly easy. If you like I can make you one |
| 17:24.53 | NetRipper | dcordes, make pictures etc |
| 17:25.06 | NetRipper | would be nice |
| 17:25.17 | NetRipper | if you make pics i can probably do it myself |
| 17:25.29 | NetRipper | i can solder a bit if it's not too complicated :p |
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| 17:25.52 | GNUtoo | phh, ah ok I understand |
| 17:25.59 | GNUtoo | I should drop the include |
| 17:26.00 | NetRipper | you'll have to get the 2.8v to 5v somehow, you got schematics? |
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| 17:26.47 | dcordes | NetRipper: order this and solder the +5V D+ D- GND from micro usb cable to it http://www.lipoly.de/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=106165 |
| 17:27.33 | dcordes | NetRipper: the chip in this cable makes 3,3V TTL levels which works perfectly well afaik |
| 17:28.09 | NetRipper | hmm |
| 17:28.12 | NetRipper | i thought serial had to be 5v |
| 17:28.18 | phh | dcordes: it would be read only then |
| 17:28.35 | phh | dcordes: if you put +/-12V on it, it won't be good. |
| 17:28.44 | phh | but yes, 3.3V could work on computers' serial port |
| 17:28.46 | NetRipper | oh but this is usb, does it emulate a serial port? |
| 17:28.56 | phh | no |
| 17:28.59 | phh | it's really a serial port |
| 17:29.01 | dcordes | phh: dude there is no computer's serial port with this cable |
| 17:29.05 | dcordes | VERSION = 2 |
| 17:29.06 | dcordes | PATCHLEVEL = 6 |
| 17:29.06 | dcordes | SUBLEVEL = 35 |
| 17:29.06 | dcordes | EXTRAVERSION = -rc3 |
| 17:29.06 | dcordes | NAME = Sheep on Meth |
| 17:29.08 | dcordes | lol :D |
| 17:29.20 | phh | dcordes: right I should have clicked the link. |
| 17:29.42 | NetRipper | dcordes, let me know if it works and still make pics of any mods you do |
| 17:29.43 | NetRipper | :) |
| 17:29.56 | dcordes | NetRipper: fine |
| 17:30.20 | dcordes | they sent it today. as I have spare micro usb I can solder it directly when it arrives |
| 17:30.27 | NetRipper | nice |
| 17:31.11 | dcordes | I can recommend this shop if you are in eu. it was really hard to find.. google will only show the major electronic online shops |
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| 17:31.13 | ali1234 | dcordes: reference to this? http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2010-04/taser-shocks-meth-intoxicated-sheep-dont-harm-heart-taser-study-says |
| 17:31.48 | dcordes | ali1234: omfg terror sheep from hell |
| 17:34.22 | dcordes | Taser International tries to restore their image since the Don't Tase Me Bro scandal |
| 17:37.49 | ali1234 | by giving sheep meth and then tasering them? seems like kind of a bad way to do it |
| 17:39.02 | DomZ | hi guys, |
| 17:39.09 | dcordes | well they are trying to save people's live with that |
| 17:39.21 | DomZ | dcordes: What are you trying to do with this cable ? does it helps you to find an anwser for the segfaults problems ? |
| 17:39.22 | dcordes | s/v/f/ |
| 17:39.46 | dcordes | DomZ: it is part of a test setup for tazin sheep on meth |
| 17:40.02 | dcordes | ~lart apt |
| 17:40.02 | apt | does a little 'renice 20 -u dcordes' |
| 17:41.20 | ali1234 | dcordes: well, you know what people are like. you can post videos of people getting maimed on the internets and nobody cares. but if it's an animal in even slight danger... everyone goes nuts |
| 17:43.45 | dcordes | ali1234: true |
| 17:44.00 | LeTama | hello all |
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| 17:45.44 | DomZ | hi LeTama |
| 17:55.24 | Kensan | dcordes: hi |
| 17:56.12 | Kensan | dcordes: is your plan to get uart for leo/nexus rolling with the soldered serial cable? |
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| 17:59.30 | dcordes | Kensan: exactly |
| 17:59.43 | dcordes | LeTama: hey |
| 18:00.04 | dcordes | Kensan: mickey||WM any you should also try to obtain one |
| 18:01.04 | Kensan | dcordes: I ordered my parts from conrad electronics uart-to-usb converter |
| 18:01.14 | Kensan | dcordes: just need to solder the cable with the pins |
| 18:03.19 | dcordes | Kensan: do you have link ? |
| 18:03.34 | Kensan | dcordes: to the part I ordered? |
| 18:03.35 | dcordes | Kensan: cause I checked conrad but didn't find anything good |
| 18:03.41 | dcordes | yea |
| 18:03.49 | dcordes | http://nintendoworldcup2010.ytmnd.com/ lol :D |
| 18:04.14 | GNUtoo | phh, it doesn't take wl12xx_platform_data |
| 18:04.21 | phh | what do you mean ? |
| 18:04.27 | GNUtoo | basically it say wl12xx_data is undeclared |
| 18:04.31 | Kensan | dcordes: http://www1.conrad.ch/scripts/wgate/zcop_ch2/~flN0YXRlPTMyNDEyODQ5MjQ=?~template=pcat_product_details_document&product_show_id=197326&no_brotkrumennavi=1&zhmmh_area_kz=LN# |
| 18:04.35 | Kensan | ops |
| 18:04.36 | Kensan | a bit long sorry |
| 18:04.37 | GNUtoo | | arch/arm/mach-msm/board-trout.c:375: error: 'wl12xx_data' undeclared here (not in a function) |
| 18:04.43 | GNUtoo | and the include is there |
| 18:04.50 | dcordes | Kensan: DER WARENKORB KONNTE NICHT ANGELEGT WERDEN |
| 18:04.53 | Kensan | dcordes: what part did you order? |
| 18:05.17 | phh | +struct wl12xx_platform_data wl12xx_data { |
| 18:05.17 | phh | + .irq = GPIO_TO_IRQ(29), |
| 18:05.17 | phh | +}; |
| 18:05.20 | phh | GNUtoo: you still have that part ? |
| 18:05.21 | Kensan | dcordes: http://www.conrad.ch/goto.php?artikel=197326 |
| 18:05.22 | GNUtoo | #include <linux/spi/wl12xx.h> |
| 18:05.26 | GNUtoo | yes |
| 18:05.27 | Kensan | dcordes: sorry about that :( |
| 18:05.37 | phh | GNUtoo: sound like you don't |
| 18:05.40 | Captnoord | finaly had a good day.... fixed usb host and usb client on my mx 27 platform |
| 18:05.42 | Kensan | dcordes: having dinner bbl |
| 18:05.56 | phh | Captnoord: what about raph's usb host ? :D |
| 18:05.56 | GNUtoo | struct wl12xx_platform_data wl12xx_data { |
| 18:05.56 | GNUtoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:05.56 | GNUtoo | }; |
| 18:06.00 | GNUtoo | ok |
| 18:06.01 | Captnoord | haha |
| 18:06.02 | GNUtoo | I'll look |
| 18:06.02 | Captnoord | nope |
| 18:06.03 | Kensan | dcordes: it works with 3,3 and 5v |
| 18:06.12 | phh | GNUtoo: meh |
| 18:06.12 | Captnoord | freescale i.mx27 |
| 18:06.13 | Captnoord | :P |
| 18:06.16 | phh | GNUtoo: wl12xx_data is declared |
| 18:06.18 | phh | it can't be "undeclared" |
| 18:06.38 | GNUtoo | struct wl12xx_platform_data wl12xx_data { |
| 18:06.46 | phh | GNUtoo: ooops |
| 18:06.46 | GNUtoo | | arch/arm/mach-msm/board-trout.c:367: error: expected '=', ',', ';', 'asm' or '__attribute__' before '{' token |
| 18:06.50 | phh | GNUtoo: it's = { |
| 18:06.55 | phh | not just { |
| 18:06.56 | GNUtoo | ahh |
| 18:06.59 | GNUtoo | I didn't saw that |
| 18:07.00 | phh | sorry about that |
| 18:07.01 | GNUtoo | thanks a lot!!! |
| 18:07.07 | GNUtoo | no problem at all |
| 18:07.22 | dcordes | Kensan: TTL-232R-3V3 |
| 18:07.32 | GNUtoo | sorry about not seeing that |
| 18:07.39 | GNUtoo | I was looking in the wrong place |
| 18:09.39 | Captnoord | we had a coder over on the floor today... who had problems with his ts driver |
| 18:09.40 | dcordes | Kensan: this even cheaper |
| 18:10.08 | Captnoord | he refused to listen to me when I sayd that one of the first things you do on a irq is disable the irq\ |
| 18:10.12 | dcordes | coders hit the floor! |
| 18:10.16 | Captnoord | yup |
| 18:10.18 | dcordes | coder party |
| 18:10.22 | Captnoord | nah |
| 18:10.32 | dcordes | helsl nah |
| 18:10.35 | Captnoord | he waisted 2 entire days on something that can be easily fixed |
| 18:10.39 | Captnoord | but he just don't listen |
| 18:13.03 | dcordes | whacko |
| 18:14.03 | dcordes | LeTama: what is the minimum stuff we need to patch in order to boot. assuming you have the serial console and do not need any display |
| 18:17.30 | dcordes | codeaurora git web interface is the worst crap |
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| 18:21.57 | GNUtoo | is tired |
| 18:34.07 | danibjor | evening |
| 18:40.26 | dcordes | girorious git web I mean |
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| 18:49.48 | LeTama | dcordes: you need board-htcleo.c and .h to declare memory map |
| 18:51.04 | LeTama | you need to adjust the serial stuff too |
| 18:52.12 | GNUtoo | phh, how should I enable the wifi? same way than before? |
| 18:52.37 | GNUtoo | [ 356.531250] wifi probe done |
| 18:52.41 | GNUtoo | then it blocks |
| 18:52.43 | GNUtoo | on other message |
| 18:52.52 | GNUtoo | maybe the tee was too much |
| 18:53.46 | GNUtoo | in while true;do dmesg -c;done | tee dmesg |
| 18:55.24 | LeTama | dcordes: and you need to patch makefile and Kconfig to add the board |
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| 18:58.17 | phh | GNUtoo: yes same way |
| 18:59.59 | leviathan | GNUtoo: I'll try linux-msm from codeaurora now |
| 19:00.53 | GNUtoo | phh, same way? |
| 19:01.04 | GNUtoo | I removed the tee and it prints the same thing |
| 19:01.06 | GNUtoo | no message |
| 19:01.48 | GNUtoo | ah ok |
| 19:01.54 | GNUtoo | sorry |
| 19:02.07 | GNUtoo | phh, how can I debug the kenrel panic? |
| 19:06.50 | phh | do you have the kernel panic ? |
| 19:14.44 | GNUtoo | no |
| 19:14.49 | GNUtoo | that's the big problem |
| 19:14.59 | GNUtoo | and I've no serial |
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| 19:15.35 | GNUtoo | ramconsole? |
| 19:15.56 | GNUtoo | last time that I tried ramconsole and kexec it didn't work |
| 19:17.55 | leviathan | hmm |
| 19:18.02 | leviathan | I'll have soon serial, I hope |
| 19:18.09 | leviathan | then I can do tests for you |
| 19:18.14 | GNUtoo | ok |
| 19:18.39 | leviathan | btw: we need to make a list now |
| 19:18.51 | leviathan | I'll send a mail to openmoko-cdevel ML |
| 19:18.58 | leviathan | where the project is described |
| 19:19.42 | leviathan | GNUtoo: devel@lists.openmoko.org? |
| 19:20.21 | GNUtoo | yes but send also to qi-hardware |
| 19:20.32 | GNUtoo | leviathan, specially if you plan to make the hardware copyleft |
| 19:21.01 | leviathan | it will be brandet under samsung and based on omnia |
| 19:21.10 | GNUtoo | ok |
| 19:21.18 | GNUtoo | can I pm you? |
| 19:21.37 | leviathan | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:42.02 | [acl] | wow irc logs have some good info |
| 19:42.36 | phh | uh ? |
| 19:42.38 | phh | like ? |
| 19:42.48 | [acl] | im reading some stuff from 2007 |
| 19:42.52 | phh | wow. |
| 19:43.05 | [acl] | looks like cr2 was doing alot of testing with the wince ati drivers too |
| 19:43.37 | [acl] | do you know what these clocks are that he is talking about? |
| 19:43.38 | [acl] | 18:34.57cr2pll: ref_dev(M)=0 div_int(N_int)=27 div_frac(N_frac)=0 lock_time=5 Fout=28*xtal |
| 19:43.39 | [acl] | 18:35.08cr2pclk: pixclk_src=1 pixclk_div=8 |
| 19:43.39 | [acl] | 18:35.12cr2these are ok. |
| 19:44.43 | [acl] | i also have that info for the Rhod. I just never payed attention since i didnt know what it was. I'm wondering now if its something useful |
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| 19:46.09 | phh | wow oO |
| 19:46.09 | phh | no clue |
| 19:46.49 | [acl] | Those values are different for the rhod. I just wish i knew what they were. I may need to hunt down cr2. |
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| 19:53.00 | [acl] | unfortunately i cant get these values on android. the api doesnt match with the wince version. I bet comparing those clocks would show differences. |
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| 20:26.35 | skybinary | hiyaz |
| 20:27.30 | skybinary | i got a htc-desire/bravo its rockin |
| 20:27.48 | skybinary | any hints on how i can change the hosts file, using ase tells me access denied |
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| 20:34.57 | skybinary | i found adb in the sdk giving that a wurl |
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| 20:51.52 | nemasu | oops |
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| 20:55.30 | Gerhardtje | Hey lads, I have a few questions |
| 20:55.46 | Gerhardtje | How do I know if I have a stock-rom? |
| 20:56.19 | Gerhardtje | I have my HD2 from Vodafone, in Holland, It has its own Vodafone-ROM ran over it when I got it. |
| 20:56.51 | Gerhardtje | But now I'm really anxious on getting a new rom from the XDA forum, and it turns out that I have to start with a HARDSRL |
| 20:56.58 | Gerhardtje | Or do I have to get a goldcard first? |
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| 20:58.33 | Gerhardtje | Anyone here? :o |
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| 21:10.32 | NetRipper | Gerhardtje, your question is more suitable in #xda-devs instead of here ;) |
| 21:10.46 | NetRipper | but i see you're there already |
| 21:13.23 | skybinary | hi i have a new htc-desire, ES File explorer offers 2 options for root access |
| 21:13.39 | skybinary | CM ROM or HiAPK ROM, how do i discover what rom i have? |
| 21:16.42 | skybinary | i dont understand why have a hosts file on the droid you cannot edit |
| 21:16.45 | skybinary | <shrugs> |
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| 21:51.28 | dcordes | is wondering which asshat terminated his irc client |
| 21:51.41 | NetRipper | guilty |
| 21:51.54 | NetRipper | I telepathically did that. Sorry. |
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| 22:10.30 | VKK | anybody here? |
| 22:11.21 | dcordes | don't ask to ask just ask (tm) |
| 22:12.53 | VKK | ok |
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| 22:13.10 | VKK | I am new to linux/android, so want to ask here :) |
| 22:14.12 | VKK | I am interesting in system.img and data.img files which can be runned with htc-msm-2.6.32 kernel. Can anybody point to such files? |
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| 22:15.01 | dan1j3l | hi guys... |
| 22:15.12 | VKK | hello |
| 22:16.37 | dan1j3l | finally reinstalled my workstation... :) |
| 22:17.24 | VKK | ow... |
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| 22:18.04 | VKK | so noone can help me? at least honestly say that I say something stupid :) |
| 22:20.04 | dan1j3l | VKK: you can try at developer.htc.com (Nexus One (TMOUS) Kernel Source Code) |
| 22:20.56 | VKK | hm thanks |
| 22:22.00 | VKK | oh |
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| 22:23.33 | VKK | can anybody point to Haret which is working on LEO? |
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| 22:24.50 | dan1j3l | VKK: you will find all your answers here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=651632 |
| 22:24.52 | dcordes | VKK: please try to use wiki |
| 22:25.05 | dcordes | VKK: it has all information on haret you need. |
| 22:25.12 | dcordes | !topic |
| 22:25.22 | dcordes | Welcome to the http://htc-linux.org project! Please read the Wiki: http://htc-linux.org/wiki |
| 22:27.20 | dan1j3l | off to bed now... see ya... |
| 22:28.50 | VKK | btw anybody working under leo touch screen driver? |
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| 22:35.49 | rafyvitto | phh you there? |
| 22:38.22 | dcordes | VKK: afaik nobody started writing a driver |
| 22:39.03 | dcordes | VKK: we need to dump touchscreen i2c and look at the dlls |
| 22:39.12 | VKK | I wanna to start |
| 22:39.39 | VKK | I am good in HW ARM, but rather n00b in linux |
| 22:41.16 | dcordes | VKK: ok nice. all the leo hardware information is here http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Leo there is also some i2c stuff documented. and there is a wiki page for touchscreen. you can throw all your findings there |
| 22:42.01 | dcordes | VKK: here is a good manual on using haret at the old project website http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HaRET_20Documentation |
| 22:43.18 | VKK | btw u still have problems with running kernel? |
| 22:43.18 | dcordes | VKK: if you want to discuss the creation of driver good place is here http://lists.linuxtogo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mobile-linux-discuss |
| 22:43.29 | VKK | prefetch aborts? |
| 22:43.49 | dcordes | sorry? prefetch? yes we still have the cpu crash problem |
| 22:44.10 | dcordes | oh right. it is very bad idea to use android for debugging. |
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| 22:44.20 | Cotulla | seems there HW bug in some QSD8X50 revisions |
| 22:44.55 | Cotulla | so u need workaround for some CPUs |
| 22:45.01 | dcordes | ...yes likely. |
| 22:45.04 | Cotulla | 32-bit Thumb branch instructions that cross an I-Cache line boundary (32 byte) may branch to the wrong address |
| 22:45.23 | dcordes | that sounds interesting. you might put that on the mailing list |
| 22:45.48 | Cotulla | actually I think I know solution |
| 22:46.05 | dcordes | well then try it out or provide the patch |
| 22:46.11 | Cotulla | ok |
| 22:46.23 | dcordes | http://linuxtogo.org/~lgorris/builds/OE/leo/ <- these are two very good rootfs for debugging |
| 22:46.35 | dcordes | you can either extract them to sd or create initrd from them |
| 22:46.50 | dcordes | it is important to use custom init. normal init will fail due to cpu crash |
| 22:47.29 | Cotulla | I need ext3 on SD card or can use FAT32? |
| 22:47.50 | dcordes | it's best to use ext3 . that way you can easily change files |
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| 22:48.56 | rafyvitto | http://picasaweb.google.com/rafymercenario/WindowsMobileJunkieS?authkey=Gv1sRgCNCxpMvs95_lqwE#5485729497238124882 the 9JA98 JW258 the sdram chip right? |
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| 22:49.12 | joeykrim | hi |
| 22:49.13 | rafyvitto | http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/f1BoQZyuJx5b5mvRXYEGcP-3CQcSejXmVzOAHqgowKQ?feat=directlink |
| 22:49.20 | rafyvitto | thats the correct link =] |
| 22:49.35 | dcordes | rafyvitto: hey man. don't you have one of the snapdragon acers ? |
| 22:49.41 | rafyvitto | yes |
| 22:49.44 | rafyvitto | acer s100 |
| 22:50.01 | dcordes | did you try the kernel patched for s200 ? |
| 22:50.37 | rafyvitto | the acer s100 is an android device, but yes sometime ago i had the s200(windows mobile) |
| 22:50.39 | rafyvitto | =] |
| 22:51.24 | dcordes | ohh ok :) |
| 22:51.55 | rafyvitto | so can anyone tell if its an sdram chip =] |
| 22:52.06 | Cotulla | it's should be MCP |
| 22:52.16 | Cotulla | RAM + NAND |
| 22:52.40 | Cotulla | also there mobile DDR :) |
| 22:52.56 | rafyvitto | kk, i tried googling that 'serial" nothing came up :P |
| 22:53.08 | Cotulla | but wait |
| 22:53.19 | Cotulla | on MCP there should be another label |
| 22:53.50 | Cotulla | like h8BES0UQ0MCP |
| 22:54.00 | rafyvitto | oh ok |
| 22:54.40 | dcordes | is wondering why the toshiba TG01 and acer s200 people don't try s100 kernel.. |
| 22:54.50 | Cotulla | hm or maybe it's Micron memory |
| 22:55.03 | rafyvitto | tsamolotoff tried it |
| 22:55.08 | rafyvitto | dosnt boot |
| 22:55.09 | rafyvitto | >< |
| 22:55.16 | Cotulla | http://www.micron.com/ |
| 22:55.32 | Cotulla | yes it's micron (look at logo) => Micron MCP |
| 22:55.42 | dcordes | rafyvitto: ya ok we got the working leo sources now. but it might be a good source for patches in future |
| 22:55.51 | dcordes | in case seomebody is interested in the s200 support .. |
| 22:56.44 | rafyvitto | yeah but no one seems to be intrested in the s200 exept for tsamolotoff |
| 22:57.04 | dcordes | Cotulla: thanks for dropping in. if you run into any trouble building or anything just ask here. there's a small kernel building walkthrough in wiki http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=QuickDeveloperStartGuide#Kernel |
| 22:57.25 | rafyvitto | back when i had my s200 i wanted to start a team...but it never went off lol |
| 22:57.48 | dcordes | Cotulla: and don't forget to let the mailing list know aboud your ideas regarding cache etc ;) |
| 22:57.52 | dcordes | I gotta run |
| 22:57.54 | dcordes | ttyl |
| 22:57.56 | Cotulla | ok |
| 22:57.59 | Cotulla | bb |
| 22:58.04 | rafyvitto | cya |
| 22:58.11 | Cotulla | yes. I am in troubles with coping... :( |
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| 23:04.02 | rafyvitto | hmmm cant seem to find that mcp on micron xD |
| 23:04.08 | rafyvitto | but il keep on looking |
| 23:04.14 | Cotulla | look to logo |
| 23:04.17 | Cotulla | it's same |
| 23:04.27 | Cotulla | so it can be NAND or NAND + DDR |
| 23:04.35 | Cotulla | which dev is it? |
| 23:04.40 | rafyvitto | yeh im looking |
| 23:04.52 | rafyvitto | liquid A1 s100 |
| 23:05.42 | Cotulla | so I think it's MCP memory: Micron producing memory, chip near CPU... |
| 23:06.41 | Cotulla | they usually don't publish anything about such chips |
| 23:08.45 | rafyvitto | i just want to wether its 256mb or 512mb of ram, cause the liquid A1 has 256mb of ram but the new liquid E has 512, and so based on that i have a theory that MAYBE the lqiuid A1 does have 512mb of ram, cause think about why would acer start a hole new assembly line to just change a chip |
| 23:09.12 | Cotulla | hm |
| 23:09.18 | rafyvitto | there the same exact device |
| 23:09.24 | rafyvitto | only difrence is the amount of ram |
| 23:09.27 | Cotulla | it's difficult to detect via software... |
| 23:09.56 | rafyvitto | i know so thast why i was looking for some internal pics |
| 23:10.06 | rafyvitto | cause im lazy and dont want to take apart my liquid A1 |
| 23:10.09 | rafyvitto | lol |
| 23:10.45 | Cotulla | honestly I don't think that u will able to find information about this MCP somewhere |
| 23:11.07 | Cotulla | I know that hynix MCP can have different size of RAM with same name |
| 23:11.25 | rafyvitto | i see |
| 23:11.42 | Cotulla | u have acer boot dump? |
| 23:12.12 | rafyvitto | nah im kinda of a noob when it comes to linux/android |
| 23:12.28 | rafyvitto | i only know few adb commands |
| 23:12.38 | rafyvitto | very very few =] |
| 23:12.52 | Cotulla | ololo I am too however |
| 23:12.53 | Cotulla | :D |
| 23:13.17 | rafyvitto | yeh but your a god when it comes to winmo bootloader's :P |
| 23:13.25 | Cotulla | yeah |
| 23:13.33 | Cotulla | I know HW and ARM nice |
| 23:13.51 | rafyvitto | btw congrats on your alpine wm6 bootloader |
| 23:13.54 | rafyvitto | =] |
| 23:14.01 | Cotulla | MAGLDR? |
| 23:14.21 | Cotulla | haha yersterday I added linux kernel load to it |
| 23:14.37 | rafyvitto | oh nice |
| 23:14.51 | rafyvitto | did you loaded any distro? |
| 23:15.02 | Cotulla | zImage and initrd.gz via USB for fast testing |
| 23:15.17 | Cotulla | so I have IMG files on SD card and can change kernel fastly |
| 23:15.17 | rafyvitto | oh ok ok, i see now |
| 23:16.42 | Cotulla | hm can u help me to run test ?\ |
| 23:16.56 | rafyvitto | on what device? |
| 23:17.14 | Cotulla | LEO |
| 23:17.18 | Cotulla | just help in words... |
| 23:17.31 | Cotulla | how to start this via Haret... http://linuxtogo.org/~lgorris/builds/OE/leo/ |
| 23:18.01 | rafyvitto | well everything should work, by trowing it into your sd card root |
| 23:18.16 | rafyvitto | initrd/zimage/default.txt/haret.exe |
| 23:18.58 | Cotulla | so I need to build initrd from Angstrom-minimalist-image-glibc-ipk-2010.4-test-20100517-htcleo.rootfs.tar.gz |
| 23:19.01 | Cotulla | ruight? |
| 23:19.03 | Cotulla | *right |
| 23:19.08 | rafyvitto | yep =] |
| 23:19.16 | Cotulla | ow |
| 23:19.53 | Cotulla | hm or initrd-angstrom-cortex.cpio is initrd already? |
| 23:20.02 | Cotulla | just change ext to .gz> |
| 23:20.03 | Cotulla | ? |
| 23:20.38 | rafyvitto | hmmm |
| 23:20.46 | dcordes | back again :P |
| 23:20.51 | rafyvitto | should work with just initrd |
| 23:20.56 | Cotulla | oh |
| 23:20.56 | dcordes | rafyvitto: if you extract to sd you don't need initrd |
| 23:20.57 | Cotulla | :) |
| 23:21.04 | rafyvitto | ask decoders he knows a lot more then me |
| 23:21.05 | rafyvitto | =] |
| 23:21.08 | Cotulla | ok |
| 23:21.12 | rafyvitto | :P |
| 23:21.13 | dcordes | let's walkt you throught this.. |
| 23:21.23 | Cotulla | I am n00b in this yet.... |
| 23:21.31 | dcordes | so you formated sd ? |
| 23:22.12 | Cotulla | I can now format to FAT32, because I can't boot Ubuntu now :( |
| 23:23.09 | dcordes | so you only want to try out booting ? |
| 23:23.23 | Cotulla | seems my external HDD died |
| 23:23.27 | Cotulla | :( :( |
| 23:23.47 | Cotulla | yes now I wanna to test it to boot |
| 23:23.52 | dcordes | I will create an initrd for you that boots to shell |
| 23:23.56 | Cotulla | ok |
| 23:24.13 | dcordes | but if you wanna try out anything and build kernel you need linux obviously. ... |
| 23:24.19 | Cotulla | yeah |
| 23:24.20 | Cotulla | I know |
| 23:24.38 | Cotulla | I tried CYGWIN at first, after 1.5 hours I installed Ubuntu |
| 23:24.40 | Cotulla | lol |
| 23:25.18 | dcordes | haha :D |
| 23:25.23 | Cotulla | I will change CPU config under CE before Haret |
| 23:25.34 | Cotulla | so it should run |
| 23:25.50 | dcordes | this might be good idea.. we have been thinking a lot about what CE does before we boot on QSD |
| 23:25.59 | dcordes | can you explain waht you want to try ? |
| 23:26.08 | Cotulla | hm so |
| 23:26.11 | Cotulla | there HW bug in CPU |
| 23:26.27 | Cotulla | so it cause bad ICache working under some conditions |
| 23:26.27 | dcordes | aha. that explains the errate settings in kernel |
| 23:26.34 | Cotulla | ? |
| 23:26.35 | Cotulla | no |
| 23:26.36 | dcordes | wait I show you code |
| 23:27.18 | Cotulla | maybe u about permission failure? |
| 23:27.25 | Cotulla | it's seems already added to kernel |
| 23:29.04 | dcordes | 1sec |
| 23:29.17 | Cotulla | I hope only USB box died... not HDD |
| 23:29.20 | Cotulla | :( |
| 23:30.01 | dcordes | hm ok let's hope the best |
| 23:30.12 | dcordes | usb box suck they destroy every filesystem in no time.. |
| 23:30.53 | dcordes | # CONFIG_CPU_ICACHE_DISABLE is not set |
| 23:30.53 | dcordes | # CONFIG_CPU_DCACHE_DISABLE is not set |
| 23:30.54 | dcordes | # CONFIG_CPU_BPREDICT_DISABLE is not set |
| 23:30.58 | dcordes | CONFIG_HAS_TLS_REG=y |
| 23:30.58 | dcordes | CONFIG_ARM_L1_CACHE_SHIFT=5 |
| 23:30.58 | dcordes | # CONFIG_ARM_ERRATA_430973 is not set |
| 23:30.58 | dcordes | # CONFIG_ARM_ERRATA_458693 is not set |
| 23:30.59 | dcordes | # CONFIG_ARM_ERRATA_460075 is not set |
| 23:31.10 | dcordes | does this sound familiar to you ? |
| 23:31.31 | dcordes | in context of HW bug in CPU you mention |
| 23:31.40 | Cotulla | no it's seems another bug |
| 23:31.45 | Cotulla | so lets try it |
| 23:32.15 | dcordes | ok since you can't compile I can give it a go if you tell me what to do. |
| 23:32.37 | Cotulla | I want try to change CPU settings before Haret run |
| 23:32.46 | Cotulla | then run haret and boot something from SD for test |
| 23:33.09 | Cotulla | I think haret and linux init code don't touch this settings |
| 23:33.12 | dcordes | ok then let me prepare the initrd for you |
| 23:33.19 | Cotulla | because Desire have workaround in the HBOOT |
| 23:34.48 | Cotulla | hope it will work...so we can continue with touch driver and etc |
| 23:36.33 | dcordes | yes this would be awesome |
| 23:36.36 | Cotulla | are there any specific problems with LEO hardware? |
| 23:36.48 | Cotulla | I think WIFI+BT+FM should be same with Desire |
| 23:36.52 | dcordes | you will be the hero of every hd2 user on xda ;) |
| 23:37.01 | dcordes | yes like desire nexus.. |
| 23:37.07 | Cotulla | what about RIL? |
| 23:37.14 | dcordes | I think biggest problem is TS |
| 23:37.19 | dcordes | well that's userspace problem |
| 23:37.30 | Cotulla | HTC use same AMSS so it should support Desire I/F |
| 23:37.30 | dcordes | although radio rom is different on wince |
| 23:37.34 | dcordes | it is no problem |
| 23:37.39 | dcordes | we only need to add the PPP channel |
| 23:37.49 | dcordes | because the data connection is different on wince vs android |
| 23:37.55 | Cotulla | via SMD? |
| 23:37.57 | dcordes | android uses some virtual network interface |
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| 23:38.04 | dcordes | and wince usese ppp via serial channel |
| 23:38.09 | Cotulla | oh |
| 23:38.20 | Cotulla | intersting |
| 23:38.39 | Cotulla | HTC no longer use DPRAM? |
| 23:38.45 | dcordes | what's that ? |
| 23:38.47 | Cotulla | "DPRAM I/F" |
| 23:38.59 | dcordes | do you have a powered hub to connect keyboard to leo ? |
| 23:39.14 | Cotulla | I have special USB cable for testing CE USBH driver |
| 23:39.17 | Cotulla | it should work... |
| 23:39.20 | dcordes | if not I will produce initrd that will cause crash |
| 23:39.53 | Cotulla | don't worry, make it so it will be visible if prefetch abort happen or not |
| 23:40.11 | dcordes | ok fine. then I create a 'known crashing initrd' |
| 23:40.20 | Cotulla | about TS... two fingers track will be enough? |
| 23:40.55 | Cotulla | what about booting from NAND? |
| 23:40.55 | dcordes | I would be happy if we get any data from it ;) |
| 23:41.16 | dcordes | you are the bootlaoder master. .. if you have anything put it on wiki :) |
| 23:41.54 | Cotulla | hm.. honestly I plan my own bootloader for CE70 load and I can add linux/Android load to it... I think... |
| 23:42.31 | dcordes | it would be good to use uboot |
| 23:42.36 | Cotulla | hm uboot... |
| 23:43.13 | dcordes | don't know it ? |
| 23:43.27 | dcordes | qualcomm guys wrote special qsd8* u-boot |
| 23:43.38 | Cotulla | know... looked yesterday then implementing linux load for Alphine |
| 23:43.43 | Cotulla | ok |
| 23:43.55 | Cotulla | so I can help to fit it to nand |
| 23:44.53 | Cotulla | and will make another boot for CE |
| 23:45.34 | dcordes | that would be nice |
| 23:45.48 | dcordes | uploading ... |
| 23:46.10 | Cotulla | actually there no possibility to kill device with wrong nand code haha |
| 23:46.21 | Cotulla | from aARM of course |
| 23:47.06 | Cotulla | hm uboot support downloading via USB? |
| 23:47.54 | dcordes | I didn't look at it in detail. will find you the link to the source |
| 23:48.22 | Cotulla | don't worry |
| 23:48.27 | Cotulla | I have it already |
| 23:48.34 | Cotulla | just asked, maybe u already know it well |
| 23:49.23 | dcordes | tmzt: could answer some questions I guess |
| 23:49.33 | Cotulla | ok |
| 23:49.39 | Cotulla | so where file? |
| 23:50.33 | dcordes | still working .. |
| 23:50.36 | Cotulla | ok |
| 23:51.26 | Cotulla | I guess I can use Desire TS drv as base? |
| 23:52.33 | dcordes | I don't know which ts desire/bravo has |
| 23:52.43 | Cotulla | I about I/F |
| 23:54.53 | spetrillo | is no longer away : Gone for 4 hrs 26 mins 7 secs |
| 23:57.21 | dcordes | ok rebuilding fresh kernel .. |
| 23:57.27 | Cotulla | oh |
| 23:59.39 | dcordes | Cotulla: is the source code of bravo bootloader available ? |
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