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| 00:04.11 | Cass | oi oi curruptor :) |
| 00:04.28 | gauner1986 | gimme some money, or i'll arrest you |
| 00:04.51 | Cass | how goes it |
| 00:09.52 | gauner1986 | playing some games all night |
| 00:09.55 | gauner1986 | you? |
| 00:10.28 | Cass | sleeping .. just awoke |
| 00:10.32 | gauner1986 | *at a friend |
| 00:10.45 | gauner1986 | you got strange awake times at workdays |
| 00:10.46 | gauner1986 | :P |
| 00:10.55 | Cass | i have .. cant shake it off |
| 00:14.56 | gauner1986 | when do you go to work usually? |
| 00:15.35 | Cass | 9 am |
| 00:15.46 | Cass | i work from home most days |
| 00:15.59 | gauner1986 | ah i see |
| 00:16.00 | Cass | so going to work is dragging my ass back to a computer |
| 00:16.09 | gauner1986 | but kinda hard sometimes |
| 00:16.18 | gauner1986 | if you are awake half the night |
| 00:16.26 | Cass | yes it can be |
| 00:16.37 | Cass | hence my need to sleep early evening |
| 00:16.49 | Cass | 4 hrs sleep and i can function |
| 00:16.56 | Cass | any less and i struggle |
| 00:17.12 | gauner1986 | four hours... |
| 00:17.14 | gauner1986 | i would be dead |
| 00:17.25 | Cass | :) |
| 00:17.38 | gauner1986 | how do you manage that? |
| 00:17.42 | gauner1986 | lot of redbull and coffee? |
| 00:17.44 | Cass | dunno .. practice |
| 00:17.59 | gauner1986 | of course it's nice to have some additional time at the day |
| 00:18.09 | gauner1986 | but it's kinda worth more if you have slept well |
| 00:18.13 | Cass | yeah Jr keeps me going and stimulated |
| 00:18.27 | gauner1986 | ah i see |
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| 00:44.57 | Rajko | MORE SUPER MEAT BOY |
| 00:45.22 | darkstone | oh i got some super meat alright |
| 00:45.39 | darkstone | :p |
| 00:45.45 | Rajko | 87% light 57% dark world done |
| 00:46.15 | Rajko | skill, son |
| 00:46.27 | darkstone | o0 |
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| 00:50.29 | r1ch | Cass wouldn't be Dan Cassidy would it? |
| 00:50.36 | Cass | no |
| 00:50.46 | r1ch | long shot |
| 00:50.48 | Rajko | DESTROY YOUR FACE |
| 00:50.53 | Cass | 50% correct tho |
| 00:51.04 | Rajko | Blan Cassidy and Peacefull Bullet |
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| 00:51.39 | ahenk | hi |
| 00:51.42 | r1ch | knew a Daniel Cassidy who was properly into his linux many years back |
| 00:52.00 | Cass | yeah no relation |
| 00:52.05 | r1ch | no worries |
| 00:52.16 | Cass | he has a good name though .. id have liked him |
| 00:52.23 | r1ch | FWIW, just got evo revo up and running on my HD2 |
| 00:52.25 | ahenk | i have hd2 and installed HD2Froyo_V3 but it is too slow.. |
| 00:52.30 | r1ch | 6 hours after it arrived |
| 00:53.02 | ahenk | which one do you recomment? |
| 00:53.24 | darkstone | take build talk to #htc-linux-chat please |
| 00:53.42 | r1ch | ok, thought that was off-topic/ |
| 00:54.27 | r1ch | is this for build development? |
| 00:54.33 | Cass | kernel |
| 00:54.44 | r1ch | gotcha, nuff said |
| 00:54.49 | r1ch | cheers |
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| 01:23.44 | gauner1986 | in your face, that is |
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| 03:36.55 | Curious_ | dcordes you there? |
| 03:37.21 | Curious_ | gauner1986, do you know how input_event function is interpreted? |
| 03:37.32 | Curious_ | or ali1234 |
| 03:38.55 | ali1234 | http://tomoyo.sourceforge.jp/cgi-bin/lxr/source/drivers/input/input.c#L329 |
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| 03:39.39 | Curious_ | i checked that out but didn't fully understand |
| 03:39.40 | ali1234 | your hardware driver should call it when there is new input to report |
| 03:40.01 | Curious_ | how it is interpreted? |
| 03:40.35 | Curious_ | i mean, my driver calls it, ok fine but where is that data interpreted |
| 03:40.41 | Curious_ | or where it is written? |
| 03:40.55 | ali1234 | it comes out of an event device |
| 03:41.13 | ali1234 | eg /dev/input/event3 |
| 03:41.22 | Curious_ | so it is written to sysfs? |
| 03:41.33 | ali1234 | no it is written to /dev |
| 03:41.41 | Curious_ | oh k |
| 03:42.18 | ali1234 | after that userspace software reads it |
| 03:42.22 | ali1234 | eg xorg |
| 03:42.54 | Curious_ | ok |
| 03:43.10 | Curious_ | i need to find out how android interprets the value written by lsensor |
| 03:43.14 | Curious_ | driver |
| 03:43.20 | ali1234 | yes |
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| 05:57.05 | ShapaTank | like "type" |
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| 06:51.57 | lesjaw | still frustated hiks, commands in /bin don't work, out put always "not found" how do i fix it? tq |
| 07:06.19 | Netham46 | lesjaw, make sure your PATH variable is set right |
| 07:11.41 | lesjaw | Netham46: how do i set path variable? in init.rc ? |
| 07:13.02 | lesjaw | Netham46: should i add export PATH /bin in init.rc? |
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| 07:14.21 | hefty | whats the efficiency of the current 3d driver on the rhodium? |
| 07:22.24 | hefty | i really dont get that great of fps. is it just because its so new, or is there something else stopping it from performing better? |
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| 07:36.02 | lesjaw | Netham46: i add /bin in init.rc , now commands in bin is working, but i have to run them inside /bin folder, if i'm in root folder those commands still said "not found' |
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| 07:47.47 | lesjaw | Netham46: my mistake, i have space between the path, delete space and reboot, now it work |
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| 10:15.57 | shaq | Hi |
| 10:16.55 | shaq | someone here? |
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| 14:56.28 | dcordes | yo pong |
| 14:57.09 | dcordes | [[Streak]] |
| 14:57.09 | unilinky | http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Streak |
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| 15:00.54 | Arash18k | dcordes, in wiki saying for usb net i need to do this |
| 15:00.58 | Arash18k | echo 4 > /sys/devices/platform/msm_hsusb/usb_function_switch |
| 15:01.06 | Arash18k | is taht right? |
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| 15:12.03 | Markinus | hi |
| 15:17.03 | gauner1986 | hey markinuis |
| 15:26.21 | Cass | HI Markinius, whats the chances of you making a change to board-htcleo-bl-led.c |
| 15:26.39 | gauner1986 | ? |
| 15:26.44 | gauner1986 | anything wrong with it? |
| 15:26.45 | Cass | id like to see it modified so the non sense users dont get black screens on auto bl |
| 15:27.03 | Cass | yeah auto bl switches off panel on non sense builds |
| 15:27.15 | Cass | changing a value to 2 lines fixes this |
| 15:27.19 | dcordes | arrrghhh: only in the evo kernel which you should not use. |
| 15:27.32 | Cass | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:27.33 | Cass | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:27.33 | dcordes | that was for arash.. |
| 15:27.36 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 15:27.37 | dcordes | bnbl |
| 15:27.40 | arrrghhh | didn't think that was for me :P |
| 15:27.43 | Cass | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:27.43 | Cass | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:27.58 | Cass | these 2 mods make for happy non sense users |
| 15:28.04 | gauner1986 | dcordes: okay.. what did you want to document me? |
| 15:28.16 | gauner1986 | have some sparetime now |
| 15:28.16 | Cass | those are line number btw |
| 15:29.41 | Markinus | Cass: I will look to it |
| 15:29.45 | Cass | thanks |
| 15:29.58 | Cass | one of the only main complaints left on evo kernels |
| 15:32.06 | LeTama | hey guys! |
| 15:32.11 | gauner1986 | hey letama |
| 15:32.25 | LeTama | no, main complain is nand "corruption" |
| 15:32.27 | LeTama | :d |
| 15:32.30 | gauner1986 | yeah |
| 15:32.49 | Cass | not on xda :P |
| 15:32.53 | gauner1986 | i get around by doing tar backups daily/before any reboot |
| 15:32.53 | Cass | and me |
| 15:32.54 | gauner1986 | :D |
| 15:33.00 | Cass | i dont get corruption |
| 15:33.05 | Cass | i do get black panel |
| 15:33.15 | gauner1986 | letama: have you seen my dmesg? |
| 15:33.27 | LeTama | gauner1986: no, I missed that |
| 15:33.30 | gauner1986 | i always get corruption after that message |
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| 15:34.46 | gauner1986 | let me find it |
| 15:35.18 | gauner1986 | letama: http://pastebin.com/7iRx87c3 |
| 15:35.24 | gauner1986 | always the same |
| 15:35.27 | gauner1986 | on some boot |
| 15:35.32 | gauner1986 | it crashes the kernel |
| 15:35.36 | gauner1986 | reboots |
| 15:35.41 | gauner1986 | afterwards everything is corrupted |
| 15:35.52 | gauner1986 | "everything" |
| 15:36.02 | Cass | eww |
| 15:36.17 | Cass | never ever had that even when i had corruption |
| 15:36.27 | gauner1986 | i always have it |
| 15:36.38 | Cass | tried reformatting nand ? |
| 15:36.41 | LeTama | gauner1986: oh, yes, this one... remember now |
| 15:36.42 | gauner1986 | yes |
| 15:36.44 | gauner1986 | many times |
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| 15:37.55 | LeTama | that's a nice one |
| 15:38.35 | LeTama | I didn't check it well enough. bug during cache maintenance |
| 15:38.38 | Cass | kernel bug at dma-mapping ? |
| 15:38.56 | LeTama | dma_cache_maint |
| 15:39.09 | gauner1986 | hm |
| 15:39.11 | Cass | ernel BUG at arch/arm/mm/dma-mapping.c:547! |
| 15:39.21 | Cass | seems first instance of oops |
| 15:40.17 | Cass | this is on normal git head ? |
| 15:40.22 | gauner1986 | yes |
| 15:40.23 | Cass | or new yaffs driver ? |
| 15:40.24 | Cass | ok |
| 15:40.27 | gauner1986 | gitorious one |
| 15:40.31 | Cass | strange its not hitting me |
| 15:41.34 | gauner1986 | sadly yaffs has no stable releases except for the old 2007 google one |
| 15:42.00 | LeTama | I'm quite convinced the problem is not yaffs |
| 15:42.15 | Cass | yeah or id expect proper devices to see this |
| 15:42.18 | gauner1986 | but msm nand driver? |
| 15:42.21 | LeTama | it just does what it can to recover |
| 15:42.36 | Rajko | gauner1986, tried reverting to original nand driver ? |
| 15:42.53 | gauner1986 | rajko: what original nand driver? |
| 15:43.04 | Rajko | one before i edited it |
| 15:43.12 | gauner1986 | no |
| 15:43.28 | gauner1986 | but i guess it has no mtd support? |
| 15:43.28 | Cass | gauner1986, lines 446 and 447 seems to indicate yaffs recovers fine .. i get that |
| 15:43.37 | Cass | but never the dma issue |
| 15:43.42 | gauner1986 | i see |
| 15:45.23 | Cass | [dma.c] msm_datamover_irq_handler id 8, result not valid1 |
| 15:45.30 | Cass | only instance of dma i have in dmesg |
| 15:45.53 | gauner1986 | so okay |
| 15:45.59 | gauner1986 | probably not yaffs2 driver |
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| 15:46.23 | Rajko | gauner1986, it works with yaffs |
| 15:46.26 | Rajko | no mtd-utils support |
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| 15:49.52 | gauner1986 | yeah.. so i have to use another kernel for flashing |
| 15:50.50 | Rajko | or just use tar to flash |
| 15:50.57 | Rajko | rm -rf then untar |
| 15:52.02 | fakker | rm -rf's Rajko |
| 15:52.09 | fakker | you see the link i sent you? |
| 15:52.22 | Rajko | im not giving that fat guy any of my money |
| 15:52.26 | Rajko | he already has my nerves |
| 15:52.31 | fakker | i want you to pose for me like that |
| 15:52.47 | fakker | i love you long timeeeee |
| 15:53.06 | Cass | tubuku |
| 15:53.55 | fakker | haha |
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| 16:05.29 | gauner1986 | i hate the deutsche telekom... fu disconnects, slow internet.. bleh.. really have to switch to cable based |
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| 16:26.50 | FsTluxe | Hi guys |
| 16:27.32 | FsTluxe | is cotulla retired ??? :P |
| 16:29.13 | NujaWay | *yes* |
| 16:29.17 | NujaWay | lies lol |
| 16:29.52 | FsTluxe | maybe He've buyd Ipad and stoped developing :P |
| 16:30.06 | FsTluxe | and the Iphone |
| 16:30.07 | phh | lol |
| 16:30.43 | gauner1986 | ^^ |
| 16:30.50 | gauner1986 | he bought every apple product out there |
| 16:31.04 | Cass | and ate them |
| 16:31.18 | FsTluxe | haha :P |
| 16:31.20 | gauner1986 | now the apple got a new bit missing |
| 16:31.56 | FsTluxe | I think tomorro we see Ipads with Ubuntu /android/meegoo auround.. with cotulla watermarked |
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| 16:36.14 | [acl] | are my tp2 people here yet? or is it still only hd2 scum ? |
| 16:36.16 | [acl] | :-p |
| 16:36.37 | gauner1986 | that's what i always think when you people are talking |
| 16:36.39 | gauner1986 | other way round |
| 16:36.40 | gauner1986 | :P |
| 16:36.52 | [acl] | :-p |
| 16:37.06 | NeoMatrixJR | [acl]: yo! |
| 16:37.16 | gauner1986 | tiem to think fresh |
| 16:37.18 | gauner1986 | buy new devices |
| 16:37.18 | gauner1986 | :P |
| 16:37.25 | [acl] | NeoMatrixJR: what it is bro..anything new? |
| 16:37.33 | [acl] | gauner1986: i did ... galaxy s :-) |
| 16:37.38 | gauner1986 | also nice |
| 16:37.45 | arrrghhh | [acl]: i'm here... kinda. |
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| 16:38.04 | NeoMatrixJR | naw. Got hcd files for tp2 bluetooth chip, but don't know what the f^&* to do with them... |
| 16:38.06 | [acl] | arrrghhh: thanks for the haret dump. See. you are the right man for the job |
| 16:38.09 | NeoMatrixJR | well...kinda |
| 16:38.34 | NeoMatrixJR | I made changes to an init.*.rc file to use them. got logs. not much help |
| 16:38.58 | arrrghhh | [acl]: lol no prob. now i know how to do it too :D it took a heckuva lot of googling tho. mostly user error :P |
| 16:39.04 | [acl] | NeoMatrixJR: id start looking into code of another device with similar chip... thats what we did to get wifi working to begin with. |
| 16:40.04 | NeoMatrixJR | yeah. I pulled down code for the moment. it has the same chip. was going to look into that when I had some time. Work's busy right now |
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| 16:42.16 | NeoMatrixJR | My battery life seems to have gotten horrible recently.... |
| 16:46.41 | [acl] | NeoMatrixJR: what device ? |
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| 16:52.08 | NeoMatrixJR | RHOD400 |
| 16:56.43 | [acl] | NeoMatrixJR: i know.. but i mean what device source are you looking at ? |
| 16:57.48 | NeoMatrixJR | Samsung moment (SPH-M900) |
| 16:58.23 | NeoMatrixJR | if I got the right files |
| 16:59.38 | [acl] | oo nice |
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| 17:06.45 | NeoMatrixJR | I don't think I've got what I need from it though |
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| 17:23.19 | [acl] | WisTilt2: sup bro.. how's the good life treating you? |
| 17:23.57 | WisTilt2 | [acl] life is good, just busy around here. cutting into my work on this stuff:) |
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| 17:24.53 | NeoMatrixJR | WisTilt2: what's next on your fix-list? |
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| 17:25.26 | stinebd | battery life, camera, and bluetooth. all at once |
| 17:25.44 | WisTilt2 | still working on finishing the speakerphone mic right now then want to finish lights. |
| 17:26.11 | NeoMatrixJR | I thought keyboard backlight was in there... I'm ... *trying* to do bluetooth, but I'm in WAY over my head. |
| 17:26.20 | XirXes | i can help test lights but i dont actually have a sim atm |
| 17:26.31 | uub11 | more testing fun? |
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| 17:26.39 | [acl] | i think everyone is working on something.. maybe spreading ourselves too thin ? |
| 17:26.48 | WisTilt2 | kbd baclight works on rhod300 fine, just it is different on all the other rhods it looks like. |
| 17:27.01 | NeoMatrixJR | figures |
| 17:27.36 | stinebd | [acl]: be quiet and get back to msm_fb |
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| 17:27.43 | stinebd | runs |
| 17:27.51 | WisTilt2 | lol |
| 17:27.55 | F22 | lol |
| 17:28.16 | [acl] | stinebd: so close.. but i ran into some linker errors.. |
| 17:29.39 | phh | no patch for me ? :p |
| 17:30.08 | NeoMatrixJR | WisTilt2: could you at least send up a patch for the working voice search? |
| 17:30.23 | NeoMatrixJR | I think that feature would be much loved.... |
| 17:30.54 | WisTilt2 | we verified that worked on all the rhods from 210-500 right? |
| 17:31.04 | NeoMatrixJR | worked on 400... |
| 17:31.12 | WisTilt2 | dont remember if the 100 got tested yet |
| 17:31.29 | NeoMatrixJR | I think mine was the only one we thought it had troubles and that was user error (grabbed wrong kernel) |
| 17:31.55 | [acl] | phh: ahh ready to approve patches again i see |
| 17:32.18 | XirXes | do you have to have cell service to do voice search? |
| 17:32.22 | phh | [acl]: well my brain seems to be in good mood |
| 17:32.30 | phh | XirXes: wifi would be enough |
| 17:32.32 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2: i had a 100 test. works. |
| 17:32.35 | phh | well you just need an internet connection |
| 17:32.44 | arrrghhh | XirXes: no. |
| 17:32.49 | [acl] | phh: glad to hear that |
| 17:33.02 | arrrghhh | oops. little late sorry :P |
| 17:33.18 | XirXes | good. i was led to believe at some point that it called a server but if not sweet |
| 17:33.50 | arrrghhh | well... it calls a server on a network :P |
| 17:33.59 | arrrghhh | but not a traditional phone call no. |
| 17:34.06 | XirXes | ah ok |
| 17:34.13 | arrrghhh | maybe they were confused because you can have voice commands make calls for you...? dunno. |
| 17:34.14 | WisTilt2 | arrrghhh good deal so all voice search is good on all rhods. i can clean up the code and commit it so phh can critique it:) |
| 17:34.21 | phh | :) |
| 17:34.26 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2: :D sounds awesome dude. |
| 17:34.35 | arrrghhh | means i can close mah bug too haha! |
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| 17:45.42 | uub11 | WisTilt2 will that include the red light on the back when using voice search for rhods? |
| 17:46.14 | arrrghhh | uub11: that was just for testing. |
| 17:47.22 | WisTilt2 | uub11 yes i was going to leave it red flash during any record modes since that make sense. rhods only yes. |
| 17:47.54 | uub11 | thanks and cool, arrrghhh, WisTilt2 |
| 17:48.09 | arrrghhh | oh? |
| 17:48.18 | arrrghhh | so it is stayin WisTilt2 ? sorry uub11 ... |
| 17:48.33 | uub11 | =P |
| 17:48.46 | uub11 | no need for sorry's |
| 17:49.02 | WisTilt2 | its kind of a cool feature isnt it and thats what you see in about any recording type device. |
| 17:49.27 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2: i just thought you had it in there to ensure it was working :P |
| 17:49.29 | WisTilt2 | eye candy keeps people happy:) |
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| 17:49.45 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 17:50.17 | uub11 | very happy |
| 17:50.40 | arrrghhh | i prefer function over form... but i'm not most people haha |
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| 18:10.25 | hefty | are there still people working on bettering the 3d for the rhodium? |
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| 18:13.35 | F22 | yes :D |
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| 18:13.52 | MN_ | Hello |
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| 18:15.30 | hefty | nice |
| 18:15.58 | hefty | i was just curious to know why the speed is the way it is right now. i know the rhodium can perform WAYYYY better than it does with opengl lol |
| 18:16.28 | hefty | i dont know if its because the 3d support is young, or some other limitation |
| 18:19.56 | F22 | it's suspected of being a frame buffer issue. |
| 18:19.58 | [acl] | hefty: how do you know the rhodium can perform way better ? |
| 18:20.32 | uub11 | Nostradamus predicted it would acl |
| 18:20.39 | XirXes | have you ever played xtrakt on winmo. that game runs smooth |
| 18:20.51 | [acl] | sadly no.. never played games on winmo |
| 18:21.06 | [acl] | but is there an apples to apples comparison ? |
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| 18:21.28 | LordOsiris | Hello |
| 18:21.41 | hefty | [acl] for kind of the same reason XirXes just said |
| 18:21.49 | hefty | opengl in windows mobile is ridiculously smooth |
| 18:21.53 | hefty | 60fps at least |
| 18:21.56 | Scrizz | hmm |
| 18:22.12 | [acl] | but is there a game that runs on both ? so we can compare the fps ?.. im wondering this as well thats why |
| 18:22.15 | XirXes | apparently the gpu in the rhod is comparable to the 3GS. as in benchmarks |
| 18:22.19 | hefty | i just chocked up the performance in android being to the fact that they have to port it over |
| 18:22.22 | LordOsiris | Any new interesting ROMS for the HD2 ? |
| 18:22.38 | hefty | [acl] good question...not sure |
| 18:22.52 | uub11 | acl, it might not be a good comparison but i have assasain's creed for both |
| 18:22.54 | hefty | F22 ahhh...well the rhodium chip doesnt support a framebuffer i dont think |
| 18:23.21 | LordOsiris | The one I have is too evo-like ie...It has Sprint stuff in the settings... |
| 18:23.59 | hefty | XirXes really? you still have the links for that info? |
| 18:24.46 | XirXes | no. hence the apparently. i read it somewhere but i didnt check the references then either. |
| 18:25.31 | uub11 | and to play assasain's creed on windows somewhat smoothly i have to overclock the phone |
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| 18:27.32 | [acl] | bzo: sup dood.. sorry i wasnt able to get on last nite.. |
| 18:31.15 | hefty | ive never done any opengl dev, so i dont know how big of an impact a lack of framebuffer has in opengl |
| 18:31.17 | hefty | apparently a lot |
| 18:31.24 | Rajko | gauner1986, using old yaffs2 works fine here. |
| 18:31.31 | Rajko | after setting the permissions |
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| 18:32.10 | gauner1986 | strange |
| 18:32.32 | gauner1986 | i get "permission denied" anyway |
| 18:33.01 | Rajko | well my build just booted fine with it |
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| 18:40.38 | [acl] | Alex[sp3dev]: sup bro.. got a question |
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| 18:41.07 | Alex[sp3dev] | [acl]: wazzup. which kind of question? |
| 18:41.21 | [acl] | Alex[sp3dev]: a poop kind |
| 18:41.32 | hefty | dirty |
| 18:41.37 | Alex[sp3dev] | [acl]: you know, i am not even surprised |
| 18:42.11 | [acl] | Alex[sp3dev]: had some guys run the modded haret. For rhod its reporting div 4 which doesnt match the clk dumps from haret. Am i reading it wrong ? |
| 18:42.19 | [acl] | for the pmdh |
| 18:42.38 | [acl] | div 4 would be A19 but rhod runs div5 A21. Just clear that up for me |
| 18:42.44 | [acl] | :-D |
| 18:42.58 | Alex[sp3dev] | [acl]: maybe some of rhods have different panels? |
| 18:43.16 | [acl] | tride on both gsm and cdma. all reporting Div 4.. |
| 18:43.20 | Alex[sp3dev] | ok, let me recheck the datashit |
| 18:43.26 | [acl] | :-) |
| 18:43.27 | [acl] | merci |
| 18:43.31 | Alex[sp3dev] | i hope the 7200 one is still valid for 7200A? |
| 18:43.55 | [acl] | yeah since it does kinda match the 7500.h file |
| 18:44.32 | WisTilt2 | phh: just sent you a patch but again, dont know if it actually attached it. let me know if it came in blank. |
| 18:44.41 | phh | WisTilt2: -_-' |
| 18:44.52 | phh | will you ever change ? :p |
| 18:45.08 | WisTilt2 | what exactly does that mean |
| 18:45.29 | uub11 | lol |
| 18:45.40 | phh | WisTilt2: you're a little kid that does always the same mistakes ? :p |
| 18:45.56 | phh | well, the patch is there |
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| 18:46.10 | NeoMatrixJR | so I guess that would be a no...not the same mistake |
| 18:46.22 | Alex[sp3dev] | [acl]: ok, tell me if you find the mistake here http://pastebin.com/j2pn7c9s |
| 18:46.24 | WisTilt2 | lol, little kid. thats funny. |
| 18:46.38 | NeoMatrixJR | yes! WisTilt2 patch! incoming awesomeness for Rhods! |
| 18:46.40 | WisTilt2 | probably have kids older than most everyone in here:) |
| 18:46.40 | phh | WisTilt2: or an old man that forgets everything ? |
| 18:47.15 | WisTilt2 | phh didnt forget, just looks like the attachment doesnt send correctly from this end. |
| 18:47.17 | Alex[sp3dev] | phh: according to the logs, he's probably older than the sum of our ages ;) |
| 18:47.33 | phh | Alex[sp3dev]: I know |
| 18:48.08 | XirXes | presumably wise then? |
| 18:48.23 | gauner1986 | for those who want to test it.. i created a nice evo sense image based on mdeejay's work for nand.. it includes system.bin and initrd (no rootfs needed): http://netload.in/datei0twbyNq9fO/gauner1986_nand_evo_sense.7z.htm |
| 18:48.29 | phh | mwahaha. the place for rhod's gpio is so logical -_-' |
| 18:48.40 | phh | +else{micropklt_speaker_led(0,2);}// off |
| 18:48.41 | uub11 | has been a great asset so can definetly be considered wise |
| 18:48.42 | phh | wtf is that indentation |
| 18:48.43 | WisTilt2 | phh thought you'd like that |
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| 18:49.00 | FsTluxe | Guys see this ... The've alsoe managed overclocking the GPU :| crazy shit.. http://pocketnow.com/android/samsung-galaxy-s-overclocked-to-16ghz |
| 18:49.27 | phh | WisTilt2: anyway, it's almost fine |
| 18:49.30 | phh | +extern micropklt_speaker_led(int back, int front);// Added by WisTilt2 |
| 18:49.31 | [acl] | Alex[sp3dev]: i need to check on this Output("SRC_DIV = %d", (data >> 3) & 15); |
| 18:49.38 | phh | just that this is supposed to go in include/linux/microp-klt.h |
| 18:52.53 | phh | WisTilt2: wait |
| 18:52.58 | phh | you force audio record to be on phone's mic ? |
| 18:53.20 | hefty | a 16ghz gpu? that cant be healthy |
| 18:53.22 | phh | so can't use headset ? |
| 18:53.27 | hefty | oh 1.6 |
| 18:53.34 | hefty | that still cant be halthy |
| 18:53.38 | hefty | healthy |
| 18:53.46 | phh | I think it's the cpu |
| 18:53.48 | phh | not the gpu |
| 18:53.48 | Alex[sp3dev] | halty |
| 18:54.05 | hefty | damn that bar just trashed like eveyr other device in the benchmarl |
| 18:54.24 | hefty | fuckin rhodium having a crappy gpu...fail |
| 18:54.56 | Alex[sp3dev] | what's the point of benchmarking? it's pretty obvious without any benchmark that our xdandroid devices are slow like ffffuuuu under android. mainly because of the panel |
| 18:55.09 | WisTilt2 | phh has to be on phone mic until all the headset stuff works right |
| 18:55.15 | hefty | true, but whats a panel? |
| 18:55.21 | phh | headset doesn't work .... ? |
| 18:55.27 | Alex[sp3dev] | hefty: an lcd |
| 18:55.33 | phh | Alex[sp3dev]: with benchmarks we're faster than all msm7k phones :D |
| 18:55.36 | phh | thanks to SD |
| 18:55.45 | hefty | ahhh...how can that be the reason? |
| 18:56.06 | hefty | for me its reasonable, but its not at its full potential. i can tell. |
| 18:56.21 | hefty | its semi-smooth |
| 18:56.45 | phh | hum, have we tried overclocking mddi link ? |
| 18:57.01 | [acl] | phh: this is what alex and i are kinda working on |
| 18:57.10 | Alex[sp3dev] | phh: wtf, native androids and winmo are not overclocking anything and are fast |
| 18:57.34 | phh | Alex[sp3dev]: you've got many android msm7k WVGA devices ? |
| 18:57.50 | phh | and overclocking is compared to our current clock |
| 18:57.52 | WisTilt2 | phh if headset is working now then just add a simple headset detect to that to use device 2 instead of 0 i guess. |
| 18:58.03 | hefty | Alex[sp3dev] what do you mean |
| 18:58.06 | Alex[sp3dev] | phh: well. it is fast in winmo, why should android be slower? |
| 18:58.07 | phh | WisTilt2: well I've no headset available to test |
| 18:58.13 | WisTilt2 | me either |
| 18:58.19 | phh | [acl]: you've got one ? |
| 18:58.27 | phh | Alex[sp3dev]: because wimo is ""light"" graphic-wise |
| 18:58.33 | phh | I mean no heavy updates everywhere |
| 18:58.34 | hefty | it doesnt matter |
| 18:58.35 | Alex[sp3dev] | hefty: i mean, we can render more stuff than, say, htc dream, but pushing it to the display will take more time |
| 18:58.43 | Alex[sp3dev] | phh: that is, bad code, ain't it? |
| 18:58.54 | hefty | the only problem with windows mobile is the UI licks balls |
| 18:59.05 | Alex[sp3dev] | no, that is not |
| 18:59.07 | hefty | i dont see why opengl in android cant be as fast as opengl in windows mobile |
| 18:59.15 | hefty | on the same device |
| 18:59.17 | Alex[sp3dev] | the real problem is that winmo6 is not supported anymore |
| 18:59.20 | hefty | true |
| 18:59.25 | phh | hefty: do you compare the same opengl apps .. ? |
| 18:59.26 | hefty | but i was talking about something else |
| 18:59.37 | hefty | phh yeah |
| 18:59.43 | hefty | well yess and no |
| 18:59.44 | [acl] | phh: im testing different fb and mdp codes. But most set the clocks on mddi . We simply hardcode it on the clock code. So i want to be able to change that like dzo does. |
| 18:59.46 | Alex[sp3dev] | well, opengl is almost the same.. the slowness is the result of java crap around it |
| 18:59.48 | phh | well I've been told there is a ""fillrate"" bug in >=2.0 msm7k drivers |
| 18:59.52 | hefty | opera mobile 10 in windows mobile is silky smooth |
| 19:00.03 | hefty | a browser in android is horrible |
| 19:00.04 | Alex[sp3dev] | i have 7 fps in q3 in winmo, and 4 in android.. lok |
| 19:00.06 | phh | hefty: and everyone knows opera mobile 10 uses opengl. |
| 19:00.07 | Alex[sp3dev] | lol |
| 19:00.16 | hefty | phh thats my point |
| 19:00.29 | hefty | indirectly androids browser does if you look at it that way |
| 19:00.36 | phh | lol ? |
| 19:00.46 | phh | how the hell would it do that ? |
| 19:00.56 | hefty | the ui isnt software |
| 19:01.01 | phh | yes and ? |
| 19:01.09 | hefty | that should be pretty much it |
| 19:01.10 | [acl] | phh: u talking to me ? |
| 19:01.18 | phh | [acl]: no |
| 19:01.19 | hefty | Alex[sp3dev] thats almost 200% |
| 19:01.24 | phh | hefty: hardware = opengles ? |
| 19:01.39 | hefty | hardware being non software opengl |
| 19:01.44 | Alex[sp3dev] | hefty: that's stupid, i should say. if it were like 200 and 100 fps, i would agree |
| 19:01.52 | phh | hefty: hardware 2D exists you know ? |
| 19:02.06 | hefty | Alex[sp3dev] right. it could scale though you never know |
| 19:02.10 | hefty | phh i know |
| 19:02.22 | phh | hefty: Q3 is known to be a cpu-eater, so yes Alex[sp3dev]'s point is right. |
| 19:02.37 | hefty | most chips have horrible 2d support. if any |
| 19:02.39 | phh | hefty: then wtf is the link with opengl ? |
| 19:02.52 | phh | browser uses standard 2D blit function, no opengles |
| 19:03.02 | hefty | thats fail |
| 19:03.03 | Alex[sp3dev] | we may actually write a benchmark, but i don't care for opengl. i care for UI being horribly slow. even slower than wm6.5 with transparent bitmap themes |
| 19:03.14 | phh | Alex[sp3dev]: ah ? hum |
| 19:03.27 | hefty | i figured all of androids UI was sane |
| 19:03.34 | hefty | and accelerated as much as possible |
| 19:03.37 | phh | hefty: lol ? |
| 19:03.41 | Alex[sp3dev] | phh: wm6.5 is a bit slower when you enable bitmap themes, didn't you notice? |
| 19:03.43 | phh | using 3D hardware for 2D is saner than 2D hardware ? |
| 19:03.49 | [acl] | Alex[sp3dev]: ahhh.. you are dumping the actual value of the NS reg. Then you are correct. A21 - > 21 - > 100001 -> 100 (after removing the lower 3 bits) -> 4 |
| 19:03.51 | hefty | when the 2d hardware is junk yeah |
| 19:03.52 | phh | Alex[sp3dev]: I mostly don't use wimo .. |
| 19:04.06 | phh | hefty: and you know msm7k's 2D hardware ? |
| 19:04.12 | Alex[sp3dev] | [acl]: what else should i've dumped if not NS? |
| 19:04.25 | hefty | im sure GDI uses it. since thats what GDI goes through |
| 19:04.33 | hefty | and GDI is accelerated through the DDI which probably uses the 2d hardware |
| 19:04.38 | [acl] | Alex[sp3dev]: i thought you are dumping the div value .. lol .. never mind.. .. u da man |
| 19:04.49 | phh | div value ... ? |
| 19:04.49 | hefty | and GDI is pretty slow |
| 19:04.54 | phh | there is a div somewhere ? |
| 19:05.00 | phh | hefty: I wouldn't bet it uses 2D hardware ... |
| 19:05.10 | [acl] | phh: clock poop.. not to worry.. just my dumbass didnt read it right |
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| 19:05.34 | phh | I mean there are some clocks stuff for mddi somewhere else than NS reg ? |
| 19:05.40 | Curious_ | Markinus, have you get my note? |
| 19:05.49 | Alex[sp3dev] | phh: ns contains clock divisor |
| 19:05.51 | Alex[sp3dev] | and pll number |
| 19:05.58 | phh | oh yes of course |
| 19:06.00 | phh | poor brain |
| 19:06.00 | hefty | phh if it didnt i wouldnt be suprised |
| 19:06.03 | Curious_ | it seems like mahimahi source is using auto-bl function of microp for autobrightness |
| 19:06.17 | Rajko | Curious_, DO IT |
| 19:06.27 | phh | :D |
| 19:06.29 | Curious_ | I need to discuss first |
| 19:06.34 | Curious_ | i will try to |
| 19:06.39 | phh | discuss with your mirror ? :D |
| 19:06.40 | hefty | i assumed androids UI made sense, but i guess i was wrong |
| 19:06.46 | Curious_ | wtf |
| 19:06.49 | phh | hefty: msm7k's 2D hardware is GOOD |
| 19:06.56 | phh | whatever you think you know |
| 19:07.03 | Alex[sp3dev] | phh: yes, they don't have front camera, so they have to use mirror |
| 19:07.10 | phh | hefty: it's faster than opengles' engine anyway |
| 19:07.14 | phh | Alex[sp3dev]: -_-' |
| 19:07.16 | hefty | then how come the stuff that uses it is slow as ever? since you say android uses it |
| 19:07.34 | phh | hefty: because we're pretty sure we don't set it up properly |
| 19:07.40 | NeoMatrixJR | phh/WisTilt2: you needing someone to test with a headset? I take it is has to be one of those ExtUSB ones? |
| 19:07.55 | phh | NeoMatrixJR: and on rhodium :p |
| 19:07.58 | hefty | phh ahh...that was one of the two guesses i came up with |
| 19:08.10 | hefty | phh are there any links that show the performance of the 2d hardware? |
| 19:08.11 | [acl] | Alex[sp3dev]: in that case.. 230mhz / 5 will give us 26mhz for the rhod mddi. kov you said same as black right ? 76 mhz ? |
| 19:08.16 | NeoMatrixJR | phh: let me see if I still have my old mogul headset it should work... |
| 19:08.23 | phh | hefty: hum no, I just did some easy benchmarks earlier |
| 19:08.24 | [acl] | Alex[sp3dev]:oops.. 46mhz for rhod :-p |
| 19:08.29 | NeoMatrixJR | digs through odd crap for old headset |
| 19:08.34 | hefty | phh like framerate or what? |
| 19:08.35 | Alex[sp3dev] | [acl]: huh? show me the poop |
| 19:08.53 | phh | hefty: bitrate |
| 19:09.04 | hefty | what did you get |
| 19:09.11 | phh | memory's bandwidth |
| 19:09.16 | [acl] | Alex[sp3dev]: poop http://pastebin.com/GTPfVy1T |
| 19:09.20 | hefty | no i mean resuly wise |
| 19:09.24 | phh | ? |
| 19:09.31 | phh | errrrrr no i'm wrong |
| 19:09.33 | hefty | result* |
| 19:09.34 | phh | I've never actually benchmarked it |
| 19:09.45 | phh | or |
| 19:09.47 | phh | only blits ? |
| 19:09.49 | phh | baaaaahhhhhh poor brain |
| 19:09.50 | hefty | we all know hardware is fast, but i never thought the msm7k had decent 2d hardware |
| 19:10.08 | hefty | because i know how windows works. thats all i dev for basiaclly, and i just made judgement about the hardware |
| 19:10.24 | Alex[sp3dev] | [acl]: which kind of math are you using to get 46 mhz out of 230? |
| 19:10.47 | [acl] | Alex[sp3dev]: 230 / 5 |
| 19:10.48 | phh | I should write a benchmark. |
| 19:10.50 | Alex[sp3dev] | [acl]: is it the real divisor or the 'one but one' ? |
| 19:11.02 | hefty | i know that GDI goes after 2d hardware, and GDI doenst run anything likei t should in windows mobile |
| 19:11.05 | NeoMatrixJR | phh / WisTilt2: yep, I've got an old ExtUSB headset that should work. Patch up a test and send it to me. It'll take me a bit to get to it as I'm testing a bluetooth thing right now |
| 19:11.06 | XirXes | if you want a faster ui use launcherpro instead of the default launcher. runs alot smoother to me |
| 19:11.07 | hefty | so i figured it had bad/no 2d hardware |
| 19:11.54 | [acl] | Alex[sp3dev]: the value you are returning is 0100 (which is 4) .. but on the 7200 doc, that means div 5 |
| 19:12.38 | Alex[sp3dev] | [acl]: oops. |
| 19:13.02 | [acl] | Alex[sp3dev]: so your output is right but i was reading it wrong.. but it makes sense |
| 19:13.06 | Alex[sp3dev] | then, kovs should have 57 |
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| 19:14.44 | hefty | phh so is it to be expected that it should get better in the future? |
| 19:14.54 | [acl] | lol |
| 19:15.01 | phh | hefty: who knows |
| 19:15.20 | [acl] | thought you were gonna ask for a timeline .. |
| 19:15.23 | [acl] | :-p |
| 19:15.35 | phh | [acl]: one week sounds good to you ? |
| 19:15.39 | phh | :p |
| 19:15.40 | Alex[sp3dev] | phh: has no one tried copying hw blit from android libs to fbdev driver? |
| 19:15.54 | phh | what do you mean ? |
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| 19:16.13 | Alex[sp3dev] | phh: i mean, copy the code from copybits to xorg driver |
| 19:16.17 | Markinus | Curious_: in which kernel? |
| 19:16.17 | Grote_Smurf | Hello everyone. |
| 19:16.22 | phh | Alex[sp3dev]: ah that. |
| 19:16.27 | phh | making a xorg driver is everything but easy :p |
| 19:16.58 | Alex[sp3dev] | phh: well. it shouldn't be hard if you use omap or fbdev driver as the reference |
| 19:17.01 | FsTluxe | Guys but I mean the GPU clock of the 540 GPU is acceble an you can change it in the kernel by deviding... THE qualcomm 200 gpu we are not able to set/change the clock in the kernel theyw have also overclocked the GPU i saw on xda |
| 19:17.20 | Grote_Smurf | Toevallig een Nederlander hier die me kan helpen met het installeren van Android op mijn HTC tp2? |
| 19:17.22 | hefty | current blitting isnt hardware? damn that is fail |
| 19:17.31 | phh | hefty: ? |
| 19:17.32 | phh | it is |
| 19:17.34 | [acl] | hefty: you should wish jonpry and myself some luck. We are trying to use .32 fb on our kernel. Hopefully there is a performance gain.. I know he had some amazing results on .35 fb. but it does crap out. |
| 19:17.42 | phh | well whose blitting ?* |
| 19:18.08 | hefty | idk. someone said copy the hardware blit so i assumed they were talking about tunneling something |
| 19:18.10 | hefty | i assumed |
| 19:18.16 | hefty | or assumed |
| 19:18.35 | hefty | [acl] what do you mean? i really dont have much opengl dev experience |
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| 19:18.50 | [acl] | hefty: never mind then.. |
| 19:19.13 | hefty | you can explain it to me. im sure ill understand. i do know how to make stuff. just never really got into opengl |
| 19:19.26 | hefty | im interested in what you mean |
| 19:19.29 | Markinus | Curious_: no, they use same way as other device too, it's the once way to do it compatible with android |
| 19:19.41 | [acl] | hefty: im not the best person to explain stuff.. i really end up confusing people.. |
| 19:19.50 | hefty | it happens. just go for it |
| 19:19.53 | uub11 | lol |
| 19:20.12 | Markinus | Curious_: the have a capibility to enable it, we too, but it's useless for android |
| 19:20.19 | stinebd | [acl]: i would like to get in on this linker failglory too. any chance you'd share what you've got so far? |
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| 19:20.23 | [acl] | hefty: nahh its alright.. just know that it might get faster :-) |
| 19:20.33 | hefty | ugh. i want to know why though |
| 19:21.09 | hefty | hell i have a lot of free time...if i knew a little more i coul contribute |
| 19:21.34 | Alex[sp3dev] | [acl]: what kind of linking problems? you mean you have failed? |
| 19:21.42 | [acl] | stinebd: have to change my def config and im not sure what mdp version to use so im assuming 22 for now. Prob is i need to update the make files on the video/msm directory. I havent done that yet so the build is faling .. thats all |
| 19:22.07 | hefty | [acl] oh i get what yorue talking about now |
| 19:22.08 | [acl] | stinebd: moving to .29 fb worked but why not go for .32 |
| 19:22.32 | hefty | how big of a diff was .29 to .32? |
| 19:22.38 | hefty | % wise |
| 19:22.40 | stinebd | [acl]: the rewrite was in .29 right? |
| 19:22.42 | [acl] | hefty: massive.. massive |
| 19:22.46 | hefty | no shit |
| 19:23.05 | DuperMan | hefty: hefty |
| 19:23.05 | hefty | any specific reason? |
| 19:23.06 | [acl] | stinebd: rewrite ? |
| 19:23.11 | hefty | DuperMan lol. |
| 19:23.31 | stinebd | [acl]: at some point they completely tore apart the old dusty msm_fb (which we use in .27) and replaced it with a mostly rewritten one |
| 19:23.40 | [acl] | Alex[sp3dev]: yes i have failed.. havent gotten to actually run it yet. BUt you will be the first to know if it does |
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| 19:24.16 | Alex[sp3dev] | [acl]: well. i think i'll try to do it myself |
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| 19:24.17 | [acl] | stinebd: hmm.. well the .29 was very similar to .27. What changed alot was mdp code. but .32 everything is different |
| 19:24.21 | stinebd | ok |
| 19:24.24 | stinebd | then it happened after .29 |
| 19:24.31 | [acl] | Alex[sp3dev]: do it up bro.. we can then maybe get it working on .35 so we can all move |
| 19:24.37 | Alex[sp3dev] | anyway, my git clone is running, so i can't yet start work on pushing my patches right now |
| 19:24.51 | stinebd | all i remember is that looking at the changes in the rewritten driver blew my mind |
| 19:25.00 | [acl] | Alex[sp3dev]: is saw ... i raised my wine glass and toasted to the whore kernel |
| 19:25.00 | stinebd | as you said, it was all completely different |
| 19:25.01 | hefty | damn |
| 19:25.05 | hefty | was the previous one that bad? |
| 19:25.47 | [acl] | hefty: not really.. just old.. Hero cupcake ran it.. its that old |
| 19:25.55 | Alex[sp3dev] | [acl]: damn. should i use the one from video/msm or staging/dream? |
| 19:25.59 | hefty | say no more.... |
| 19:26.47 | [acl] | Alex[sp3dev]: that was my mistake.. dream i suppose. CA has everything you need |
| 19:27.31 | Alex[sp3dev] | ca, google, dream. fuck them all, it is blowing my mind |
| 19:27.40 | [acl] | haha |
| 19:27.48 | phh | votes CA |
| 19:28.16 | stinebd | maybe we should move to .37 right away |
| 19:28.23 | [acl] | dang |
| 19:28.26 | Alex[sp3dev] | i think we should start with 32 |
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| 19:28.31 | [acl] | stinebd: u make it sound its easy as pie |
| 19:28.32 | Alex[sp3dev] | at least it is known to work on dream |
| 19:28.47 | stinebd | [acl]: well it is easy. just edit the makefile in .27 and add 10 :D |
| 19:28.49 | Alex[sp3dev] | [acl]: i think i'll be running 37.. when i get my pxa270 pda ;) |
| 19:29.12 | [acl] | Alex[sp3dev]: if you do get fb running right on .32 .. then you gotta talk to jonpry. thats his only hurdle right now before we can continue .35 |
| 19:29.13 | hefty | itll be cool to see how .32 does |
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| 19:53.00 | WisTilt2 | phh: there's another line to add if you would.... this fixes the occasional panel not blanking. in micropklt_suspend add the panel_suspend call after led state. |
| 19:54.00 | phh | WisTilt2: do it twice basicaly ? |
| 19:54.50 | WisTilt2 | yeah seems like something is kicking the panel back on wherever but when the final suspend gets called its ok. |
| 19:55.28 | WisTilt2 | almost seems like sometimes panel_resume is called again but havent narrowed down what func is actually doing it. |
| 19:56.06 | [acl] | WisTilt2: does this patch move back the gpios for rhod to the panel ? or is that still in the works ? |
| 19:56.25 | WisTilt2 | yep |
| 19:56.42 | WisTilt2 | gpios are now in rhodium-panel |
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| 19:59.55 | NeoMatrixJR | WisTilt2: you got anything you need me to test...I found a headset. |
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| 20:00.27 | Netham45 | Anyone know how sliding on the screen interfaces with the OS? |
| 20:00.31 | Netham45 | I'm on a Rhodium. |
| 20:00.57 | [acl] | WisTilt2: were the defines moved to the board.h then ? |
| 20:01.23 | Netham45 | I wanna get Rhobuntu to auto-rotate the screen, but I'm not sure where to start on figuring out how to rotate it. |
| 20:01.34 | Rajko | gauner1986, where's letamas ppp script and stuff |
| 20:01.48 | WisTilt2 | [acl] no, but probably should be:) still in microp-klt.h |
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| 20:02.45 | LeTama | Rajko: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=824413 |
| 20:03.02 | WisTilt2 | NeoMatrixJR: if phh wants to setup headset detect then yes. dont know what his plans are in that area and i didnt even know headset worked since i never use it. |
| 20:03.43 | LeTama | don't forget nand param (post #2) |
| 20:03.46 | WisTilt2 | lunch just delivered so ill be back in an hour or so. |
| 20:04.01 | gauner1986 | committing it now |
| 20:04.06 | [acl] | WisTilt2: no biggie.. just wondering :-) |
| 20:04.32 | Rajko | LeTama, because as is, having ppp running then disabling mobile data just makes phone hot |
| 20:05.07 | Netham45 | hmm |
| 20:05.08 | gauner1986 | oh rly? |
| 20:05.25 | Rajko | yeah phone is hot as hell because setup wizard enabled mobile data |
| 20:05.35 | gauner1986 | i had no problems with that |
| 20:05.55 | LeTama | gauner1986: good! I've been experimenting whole day to find a better way to do it, but I failed. |
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| 20:07.04 | gauner1986 | committed |
| 20:07.14 | LeTama | thanks |
| 20:07.25 | Netham45 | hrm, no documentation on how screen sliding interfaces with anything, anyone know a good place to start looking? |
| 20:07.58 | Alex[sp3dev] | Netham45: what is screen sliding anyway? |
| 20:08.09 | Netham45 | Alex[sp3dev], my screen slides up to reveal a keyboard |
| 20:08.10 | LeTama | gauner1986: I'll have probably a small change to make to enable dns |
| 20:08.17 | Netham45 | I wanna make it rotate to landscape when I do |
| 20:08.32 | LeTama | err, "to enable dns" is enough :) |
| 20:08.51 | gauner1986 | okay.. dns? |
| 20:09.00 | gauner1986 | that was just a few options |
| 20:09.10 | Alex[sp3dev] | it can probably done by an uevent. have not looked into it, but it is sort of implemented for xdandroid and msm phones, so look up the microp-ksc and microp-keypad drivers |
| 20:09.14 | gauner1986 | in /etc/ppp/options |
| 20:09.15 | Rajko | having automatic dns would be nice |
| 20:09.24 | gauner1986 | rajko: got it working |
| 20:09.26 | Alex[sp3dev] | [acl]: arch/arm/mach-msm/built-in.o: In function `audio_disable': |
| 20:09.26 | Alex[sp3dev] | board-android-usb.c:(.text+0xfb58): undefined reference to `disable_speaker_rhod' |
| 20:09.28 | gauner1986 | with ppp options |
| 20:09.29 | Rajko | instead of having to edit build.prop |
| 20:09.30 | LeTama | gauner1986: yes |
| 20:09.30 | Netham45 | kk |
| 20:09.58 | gauner1986 | letama: so no need to change code? |
| 20:10.18 | LeTama | gauner1986: yes, you're right, always forget the config file |
| 20:10.36 | gauner1986 | maybe you could mention it in your thread |
| 20:10.47 | LeTama | gauner1986: I'll do |
| 20:11.15 | gauner1986 | # cat options |
| 20:11.16 | gauner1986 | usepeerdns |
| 20:11.16 | gauner1986 | maxfail 40 |
| 20:11.16 | gauner1986 | persist |
| 20:11.16 | gauner1986 | novj |
| 20:11.16 | gauner1986 | novjccomp |
| 20:12.05 | LeTama | gauner1986: persist and maxfail are not a good idea with my wrapper |
| 20:12.17 | [acl] | Alex[sp3dev]: thats awesome but what is this error ? |
| 20:12.18 | [acl] | lol |
| 20:12.20 | gauner1986 | hum |
| 20:12.22 | gauner1986 | okay |
| 20:12.24 | gauner1986 | so leave them out |
| 20:12.34 | Netham45 | Doesn't look like it's a uevent, udevadm monitor isn't showing anything |
| 20:12.57 | Alex[sp3dev] | [acl]: that's the stupid linker. actually, i've commented out all boards except kovsky. need to re-enable rhodium audio |
| 20:13.47 | LeTama | gauner1986: novj/novjcomp is specific to your provider, mine doesn't need. I'll add them to the post as options that could help if usepeerdns isn't enough |
| 20:14.06 | Netham45 | not sent as a keyboard press either |
| 20:14.07 | Netham45 | hrm |
| 20:14.27 | gauner1986 | letama: it was the solution provided somewhere on the net.. i guess it works for everyone.. maybe someone who had it working before could test it? |
| 20:14.52 | Rajko | LeTama, should we go back to using google's yaffs ? it works fine |
| 20:15.00 | gauner1986 | if you don't provide them ppp will get stuck in a loop for configuring ipcp options |
| 20:15.18 | gauner1986 | rajko: not for everyone it seems ;) |
| 20:15.23 | LeTama | gauner1986: with your crappy provider :) |
| 20:15.27 | Rajko | gauner1986, fix your permissions god damn |
| 20:15.44 | gauner1986 | rajko: i did.. exactly as you mentioned it |
| 20:15.50 | Rajko | maybe i mentioned it wrong |
| 20:16.08 | gauner1986 | then show me your dirlisting |
| 20:16.58 | LeTama | Rajko: If it brings stability, let's do it. I just have to revert your yaffs commit ? |
| 20:17.08 | Rajko | no wait |
| 20:17.13 | Rajko | ill push to my clone |
| 20:17.16 | gauner1986 | we don't know if it brings stability |
| 20:17.24 | LeTama | Rajko: ok |
| 20:17.42 | Rajko | test some more |
| 20:17.55 | LeTama | gauner1986: well, let's test... It can't be much worse than now :) |
| 20:18.01 | gauner1986 | :D |
| 20:18.14 | gauner1986 | we got markinus on nand now too |
| 20:18.15 | gauner1986 | :P |
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| 20:18.30 | Markinus | yeah, I'm flashing . . |
| 20:18.42 | DomZ | cool lol |
| 20:18.59 | gauner1986 | with a crying eye |
| 20:19.01 | gauner1986 | :P |
| 20:19.04 | DomZ | Rajko: did you see my feedback ? |
| 20:19.40 | NeoMatrixJR | anyone know much about the btld service? |
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| 20:22.21 | Rajko | http://codepad.org/ImEXJag9 what the hell is going on |
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| 20:23.41 | emwe | phh: when are you gonna push WisTilt2 stuff? then i can merge my stuff in there after you are done... |
| 20:24.18 | phh | hum right. right now, well just the time to split and clean (I hate those indentations changes) the patch |
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| 20:25.21 | emwe | phh: ok, then i only have to do one merger i think... and i don't want to resolve the merge on pull... |
| 20:31.09 | Curious_ | Markinus, are you saying mahimahi uses polling? |
| 20:31.30 | hefty | ugh polling |
| 20:31.45 | Markinus | Curious_: noooo |
| 20:31.53 | Curious_ | what is it doing then? |
| 20:31.57 | Markinus | Curious_: they use the way like other nativ android devices too |
| 20:32.10 | Markinus | Curious_: they have a interface which we didn'T have |
| 20:32.13 | Curious_ | then i should ask like this: how native devices do? |
| 20:32.43 | Curious_ | you mean android/hw interface right? |
| 20:32.43 | Markinus | Curious_: the microp has more funcionality |
| 20:32.44 | Curious_ | for lsensor |
| 20:33.18 | Markinus | and we not, so we cannot use it |
| 20:33.37 | Curious_ | you mean, we don't have it in software part right? |
| 20:33.43 | Curious_ | we need a module or someting? |
| 20:34.15 | Rajko | microp is atmel |
| 20:34.16 | Rajko | chip |
| 20:34.19 | Rajko | it has its own firmware |
| 20:34.33 | Curious_ | so? |
| 20:35.02 | NeoMatrixJR | phh: from logs it looks like you've looked at btld. I'm looking for info on it. But if you're busy with WisTilt2's patch that's fine, do that first |
| 20:35.35 | Alex[sp3dev] | damn stupid linker errors |
| 20:35.37 | Curious_ | i didn't understand the part for "interface" |
| 20:35.49 | phh | NeoMatrixJR: btld is ti for bcm again ? |
| 20:36.25 | Rajko | LeTama, some accessing NULL pointer going on in msm_nand_read_oob now |
| 20:36.34 | NeoMatrixJR | ti for bcm? |
| 20:36.46 | gauner1986 | rajko: wtf |
| 20:36.55 | phh | s/for/or/ |
| 20:36.55 | gauner1986 | you have the same problem than me now? |
| 20:37.00 | Rajko | [ 166.341094] [<c0071800>] (dma_cache_maint+0x0/0xb0) from [<c0267dec>] (msm_nand_read_oob+0x808/0xb24) |
| 20:37.00 | Rajko | [ 166.341125] [<c02675e4>] (msm_nand_read_oob+0x0/0xb24) from [<c02621d4>] (part_read_oob+0x6c/0xa8) |
| 20:37.01 | Curious_ | Markinus, n1 has same lsensor chip and n1 also has an interface in android to check whether autobrightness is on or off right? |
| 20:37.01 | Markinus | Curious_: like Rajko said, it's a firmware in this chip. We have to live with it |
| 20:37.07 | NeoMatrixJR | oh phh: bcm |
| 20:37.11 | gauner1986 | rajko: sounds similar to mine |
| 20:37.11 | Curious_ | hmm |
| 20:37.20 | Rajko | ive gotten this before |
| 20:37.22 | Rajko | dont know what causes it |
| 20:37.27 | Curious_ | so misunderstood all.. |
| 20:37.28 | Curious_ | k |
| 20:37.33 | gauner1986 | yeah.. i get that on every 5th boot |
| 20:37.39 | gauner1986 | and then sth is corrupted |
| 20:37.40 | NeoMatrixJR | phh: from logs back in Feb. it looks like you had some of this figured out: http://irclog.netripper.com/?chan=htc-linux&month=2&day=20 |
| 20:37.40 | Rajko | gauner1986, consistetly |
| 20:37.46 | Rajko | running titanium backup |
| 20:37.48 | Rajko | phone reboots |
| 20:37.56 | Rajko | and that's in dmesg |
| 20:38.09 | gauner1986 | rajko: i backup using tar in /data usually :) |
| 20:38.18 | gauner1986 | works great |
| 20:38.31 | NeoMatrixJR | phh: nothing ever made it in the code though I think.... Was wondering if you had some info on this stuff I could work from |
| 20:38.47 | phh | NeoMatrixJR: what do you want to know ? |
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| 20:39.14 | phh | nothing ? cool |
| 20:39.59 | NeoMatrixJR | phh: I *think.* If it did I don't know where you put it...yet |
| 20:40.12 | phh | NeoMatrixJR: na I made no code |
| 20:40.22 | NeoMatrixJR | since btld isn't baked in I didn't think so. |
| 20:40.46 | phh | ah yeah we still have no BT for rhod. |
| 20:41.11 | stinebd | and barely any bt for TI :P |
| 20:41.12 | NeoMatrixJR | yeah. I was trying to fix that. jumped in way over my head. |
| 20:42.01 | phh | stinebd: what's wrong with it again ? |
| 20:42.03 | Rajko | gauner1986, ill try to fix it from ever occuring again, since now i have a reproducible way of triggering it |
| 20:42.04 | NeoMatrixJR | are we missing stuff that needs to happen even before btld/hciattach? |
| 20:42.15 | stinebd | phh: slow as crap, no audio services, can't pair, etc... |
| 20:42.25 | gauner1986 | rajko: ah, fine.. then corruption would be fixed for me at least.. |
| 20:42.36 | phh | NeoMatrixJR: theorically not. |
| 20:42.38 | Rajko | but it means device reboot |
| 20:42.42 | Rajko | which never happened to me |
| 20:42.43 | phh | but if theory was true, I'd already have working BT. |
| 20:42.45 | Rajko | also, ithappened twice now |
| 20:42.47 | Rajko | using old yaffs |
| 20:42.49 | Rajko | no corrupion |
| 20:43.03 | gauner1986 | i have corruption afterwards everytime... |
| 20:43.20 | Rajko | i installed a bunch of apps too |
| 20:43.22 | Rajko | theyre all still there |
| 20:43.39 | gauner1986 | for me it's mostly that some app database is corrupt |
| 20:43.48 | [acl] | phh handling BT ? |
| 20:43.49 | [acl] | :-p |
| 20:43.49 | gauner1986 | either causing android not to boot |
| 20:43.56 | gauner1986 | or all settings to be messed up |
| 20:44.02 | phh | [acl]: na, I've already lost too much time on that |
| 20:44.10 | Rajko | yeah that happened before too |
| 20:44.21 | Rajko | not since old yaffs |
| 20:44.47 | [acl] | phh: really? i didnt know .. |
| 20:44.52 | gauner1986 | rajko: okay.. tell me what permissions you have now? :) |
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| 20:46.36 | Rajko | http://pastebin.com/hWSaJEmf |
| 20:46.55 | Rajko | http://pastebin.com/unzdsJRG |
| 20:47.20 | Rajko | http://pastebin.com/QM265pSW |
| 20:47.39 | Rajko | http://pastebin.com/TAnxj6W9 |
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| 20:48.47 | phh | emwe: pushed |
| 20:49.16 | emwe | phh: thx. still in cleanup-mode for my stuff ;) |
| 20:49.21 | gauner1986 | rajko: is app and framework dir important? |
| 20:49.30 | Rajko | just use them |
| 20:49.35 | phh | WisTilt2: check the commits suits your original patch :p |
| 20:49.36 | gauner1986 | as there are no executable files in there anyway |
| 20:49.38 | Rajko | its what i did |
| 20:49.45 | Rajko | bin and xbin |
| 20:49.46 | Rajko | set them up |
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| 20:50.18 | gauner1986 | bleh.. i dunno how to chown 2000 them on my system as that id is not existing on my desktop |
| 20:50.27 | gauner1986 | but i have to, since i'm using squashfs |
| 20:50.59 | Rajko | gauner1986, 0:2000 |
| 20:51.24 | gauner1986 | but app and framework are 0:0 anyway on your system |
| 20:51.26 | emwe | phh: the gpio should have been moved into the non-existant panel power hook in reality, no? |
| 20:51.28 | gauner1986 | so it seems to be fine |
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| 20:51.55 | phh | emwe: if you're able to tell me what blank/unblank are actually supposed to do, perhaps I'll agree. |
| 20:53.04 | Markinus | Rajko: if it works now better with the old driver, then check it in, so I didn't have to revert it myself :) |
| 20:53.16 | Rajko | Markinus, wait |
| 20:53.55 | emwe | phh: well yes, they look redundant to the client init/deinit. they are the "backlight" hooks IMHO. and one can register a power hook which gets called after blank/deinit and before init/unblank where vreg and gpio "should" be set according to other code. (e.g. like in topa panel) |
| 20:53.58 | Markinus | I'm now on testing it the first time . . .I would now build a kernel without the new one. . . . ok |
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| 20:54.19 | phh | I should read the code |
| 20:54.28 | phh | my assumption is that blank/unblank is called on early_suspend/resume |
| 20:54.34 | phh | and suspend/resume on suspend/resume |
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| 20:54.51 | phh | hum na sounds right |
| 20:56.10 | emwe | phh: yap. |
| 20:56.14 | emwe | <7>[ 2193.865478] novtec_suspend |
| 20:56.14 | emwe | <7>[ 2193.865509] htctopaz_mddi_client_uninit |
| 20:56.14 | emwe | <7>[ 2193.865539] htctopaz_mddi_power_client (off) |
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| 20:56.14 | emwe | <7>[ 2193.865600] htc_pwrsink: ID 0, Util 7%, Total 7000 uA |
| 20:56.34 | gauner1986 | markinus: there was a small patch from rajko for the old one |
| 20:56.39 | gauner1986 | don't forget to include it |
| 20:56.40 | gauner1986 | ^^ |
| 20:56.46 | Rajko | dont do anything rarr |
| 20:56.57 | Markinus | Rajko: nop, I'm waiting :) |
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| 21:07.25 | Rajko | Markinus, gitorious slow |
| 21:08.07 | gauner1986 | gitorious is slow? |
| 21:08.10 | gauner1986 | check linuxtogo |
| 21:08.12 | gauner1986 | that is slow |
| 21:08.12 | gauner1986 | :P |
| 21:08.58 | Rajko | its like 110KB/s |
| 21:09.02 | Rajko | used to go 1.5MB/s |
| 21:09.14 | gauner1986 | i have 10mb/s in my university |
| 21:09.33 | Markinus | Rajko: I have time :) I testing now the first steps with the old stand, to get the first boot . . |
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| 21:10.32 | Rajko | is LeTama around ? |
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| 21:20.53 | NeoMatrixJR | phh: is this what you got before? I run btld stuffs, then when I run brcm patchram line I get this (running in console): |
| 21:20.55 | NeoMatrixJR | writing |
| 21:20.57 | NeoMatrixJR | 01 03 0c 00 |
| 21:20.59 | NeoMatrixJR | <repeat over and over> |
| 21:21.29 | phh | brcm_patchram and btld are mostly incompatible |
| 21:21.35 | phh | they do the same thing |
| 21:21.43 | phh | ie putting a bluetooth network interface up |
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| 21:21.49 | Alex[sp3dev] | 03 0c is the reset opcode |
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| 21:22.55 | WisTilt2 | phh: looks good. didnt like the panel_suspend idea in micropklt_suspend though? |
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| 21:24.55 | NeoMatrixJR | phh: did you modify WisTilt2's commit to handle the headset? |
| 21:25.15 | NeoMatrixJR | tries to unscrew phone from BT tests |
| 21:27.19 | Rajko | Markinus, have you changed the way you merge stuff ? |
| 21:27.59 | NeoMatrixJR | crap it...which commands remove all my changes and resets to what's out in the git? |
| 21:28.02 | Markinus | Rajko: normarly I do it wirh format-patch |
| 21:28.06 | Markinus | with |
| 21:28.45 | Alex[sp3dev] | NeoMatrixJR: git reset --hard HEAD? |
| 21:29.36 | Markinus | Rajko: and then git am |
| 21:29.52 | Markinus | Rajko: but I could merge it direct, right |
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| 21:34.24 | NeoMatrixJR | Alex[sp3dev] I thought so too, but my stuffs still in there.... |
| 21:35.42 | phh | NeoMatrixJR: no I haven't changed it |
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| 21:37.41 | Alex[sp3dev] | ololo |
| 21:37.52 | Alex[sp3dev] | 32 framebuffer driver seems to work |
| 21:38.34 | stinebd | is it superfast? |
| 21:38.45 | Alex[sp3dev] | i have not yet booted android |
| 21:38.57 | stinebd | is it superfast on console? |
| 21:39.03 | stinebd | those letters are really taxing :P |
| 21:39.08 | Alex[sp3dev] | sort of |
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| 21:39.18 | stinebd | push it! |
| 21:39.19 | Alex[sp3dev] | i think i know why it was super slow though |
| 21:39.31 | stinebd | phh's fault? |
| 21:39.55 | hefty | what are we talking about |
| 21:40.03 | NeoMatrixJR | phh: do you know is /dev/ttyHS1 BT for BCM as well as TI? |
| 21:40.05 | phh | stinebd: no, yours. |
| 21:40.14 | stinebd | phh: i don't even have push access! |
| 21:40.40 | phh | NeoMatrixJR: I'm pretty sure it's ttyHS1 too but hum |
| 21:40.41 | Alex[sp3dev] | omfg. i have forgotten to fix colors. back to psychodelia |
| 21:40.46 | phh | I can't remember how I checked that |
| 21:41.07 | phh | Alex[sp3dev]: is it psychodeliany superfast ? |
| 21:41.12 | stinebd | something like RGB & 0x00ff00 |
| 21:41.28 | Alex[sp3dev] | phh: not sure. but wtf has someone messed with timer frequency in msm_fb.c ? |
| 21:41.37 | stinebd | oh crap maybe it was me |
| 21:41.50 | Alex[sp3dev] | i'll kill you if it makes it faster |
| 21:41.58 | hefty | lol. |
| 21:42.37 | stinebd | i snuck that into my deep sleep patch when phh wasn't looking |
| 21:42.56 | phh | timer frequency in msm_fb.c ??? |
| 21:43.12 | Alex[sp3dev] | phh: HZ / 10 was changed to HZ / 100 by someone |
| 21:43.24 | stinebd | err |
| 21:43.35 | phh | where ? |
| 21:43.41 | Alex[sp3dev] | msm_fb.c |
| 21:44.08 | stinebd | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:44.27 | phh | I don't think I'd have changed that |
| 21:44.31 | phh | I don't understand what it means |
| 21:44.55 | Alex[sp3dev] | i don't know what it is, but it is probably nothing serious to us |
| 21:45.25 | Alex[sp3dev] | ok, now time for some real stuff |
| 21:45.28 | stinebd | that shouldn't cause such slowness while it's awake... |
| 21:45.31 | Alex[sp3dev] | gotta disable fucking printks |
| 21:45.44 | phh | :D |
| 21:46.11 | WisTilt2 | phh: you dont happen to know where the values came from in AudioPara.c do you? They are mostly wrong so i'll be sending you patch specifically for that file. Just curious how they were derived. |
| 21:46.28 | phh | WisTilt2: AudioPara4.csv (xml ?) from raphael |
| 21:46.32 | tmzt | they come from the csv |
| 21:46.33 | phh | well I believe it's from raphael. |
| 21:46.43 | WisTilt2 | yeah wrong for rhod for sure, mostly anyway |
| 21:46.43 | tmzt | fun to convert them :) |
| 21:47.05 | WisTilt2 | where did the csv file come from? |
| 21:47.05 | phh | WisTilt2: I won't integrate a change of AudioPara for rhod only ok ? :p |
| 21:47.08 | phh | WisTilt2: wince rom |
| 21:48.04 | FsTluxe | guys Ubuntu@ leo.. wondering usb host mode also support usb HUB ? Ill modify my cables tomorro.. |
| 21:48.25 | gauner1986 | it does |
| 21:48.36 | gauner1986 | i got a hub powering my leo |
| 21:48.46 | gauner1986 | and devices connected to it |
| 21:49.03 | FsTluxe | thats nice... |
| 21:49.18 | FsTluxe | which divices did you connect ? |
| 21:49.24 | gauner1986 | keyboard and flash |
| 21:49.28 | FsTluxe | I really lik ubuntu it makes me feel its a netbook |
| 21:50.28 | FsTluxe | Nice should also external BT working ? because the internal no driver yet. |
| 21:50.37 | gauner1986 | i dunno |
| 21:50.43 | gauner1986 | question of drivers i guess |
| 21:50.48 | FsTluxe | yes.. |
| 21:50.49 | WisTilt2 | phh: then we should have a machine type to use the correct AudioPara for rhod then. we have that for the other adsp stuff so this wouldn't be any different. |
| 21:50.58 | hefty | id try rhobuntu but i dont have a big enough sd card |
| 21:51.00 | NeoMatrixJR | is there an adb command I can run to restart the GUI? after upgrading to the latest kernel I got a blank screen. If I hold pwr button I do still get the menu though |
| 21:51.12 | Alex[sp3dev] | NeoMatrixJR: killall zygote |
| 21:51.35 | phh | WisTilt2: I'd rather have it in userland, but well I can live with that too |
| 21:51.42 | hefty | is there a newer battery patch for the rhodium android? |
| 21:51.49 | Alex[sp3dev] | lol. i've got a blue screen ;) |
| 21:51.54 | FsTluxe | is there git of the kernel that = used for ubunut0.2 I need to modify some things... |
| 21:52.03 | Alex[sp3dev] | for like 10 ms during the unblank |
| 21:52.24 | phh | your eye can see something of 10ms ? |
| 21:52.24 | phh | not bad |
| 21:52.28 | phh | from which planet do you come ? :pm |
| 21:52.38 | Alex[sp3dev] | phh: do you really want to know that? |
| 21:53.05 | stinebd | teehee |
| 21:53.50 | Alex[sp3dev] | stupid android |
| 21:54.04 | WisTilt2 | phh: userland? AudioPara_Rhod.c would be the way to do it along with machine_is in kernel. its either rhod or not right? |
| 21:54.09 | Alex[sp3dev] | now my keyboard light goes off when it wakes up, and goes on when it suspends |
| 21:54.40 | phh | WisTilt2: no |
| 21:54.42 | phh | it's different for all machines |
| 21:54.43 | WisTilt2 | Alex[sp3dev] what device you talking about just curious |
| 21:55.06 | Alex[sp3dev] | WisTilt2: kovsky. but i am using the microp driver without your patches |
| 21:55.26 | WisTilt2 | phh: all different rhods use a different audiopara? |
| 21:55.33 | phh | no |
| 21:55.38 | phh | all different devices |
| 21:55.45 | phh | raph, diam, cdma/gsm, kovs |
| 21:55.46 | phh | etc |
| 21:55.54 | NeoMatrixJR | if I try to access /dev/ttyHS1 I get: |
| 21:55.55 | NeoMatrixJR | Can't get port settings: I/O error |
| 21:55.57 | NeoMatrixJR | Can't initialize device: I/O error |
| 21:56.25 | phh | oO |
| 21:56.29 | phh | that's quite unusual |
| 21:57.33 | WisTilt2 | Alex[sp3dev] so does kovsky kbd backlight use microp alone? |
| 21:57.47 | Alex[sp3dev] | now how do i tell if this driver is fast or not? it looks like it didn't change anything (except that the screen now wakes up immediately) |
| 21:58.06 | stinebd | then it's not fast |
| 21:58.22 | NeoMatrixJR | could it be because hciattach already runs the texas driver on that tty? |
| 21:58.28 | Alex[sp3dev] | looks like scrolling is a bit faster, but how to tell for sure? |
| 21:58.44 | Alex[sp3dev] | yep. scrolling is fast |
| 21:59.06 | phh | NeoMatrixJR: could be |
| 21:59.11 | stinebd | add fps printk in the module? |
| 21:59.22 | Alex[sp3dev] | lol. |
| 21:59.43 | Alex[sp3dev] | still, 35 driver is a bit different, and i have not tried that. don't feel like it's a good idea, though |
| 21:59.45 | NeoMatrixJR | any command I can run to UN-hciattach? |
| 22:00.06 | Alex[sp3dev] | killall hciattach |
| 22:00.10 | Alex[sp3dev] | x10 |
| 22:00.22 | hefty | Alex[sp3dev] are you using hte .32 driver or something? |
| 22:00.24 | stinebd | stop hciattach |
| 22:00.28 | Alex[sp3dev] | hefty: yes |
| 22:00.39 | hefty | cool. what device are you using this on? |
| 22:00.47 | hefty | is it faster, or smoother? what do you mean by faster |
| 22:00.50 | Alex[sp3dev] | hefty: ... kovsky |
| 22:01.12 | Alex[sp3dev] | faster is faster. and smoother. when it is both fast and doesn't tear while scrolling |
| 22:01.33 | hefty | cool. significantly noticeable, or? |
| 22:01.38 | hefty | what about the effects |
| 22:01.39 | stinebd | is there any noticeable difference in switching desktops on launcher? |
| 22:01.53 | hefty | the "zooming" in/out etc. |
| 22:02.00 | stinebd | that seems to be one of the slowest operations atm |
| 22:02.04 | Alex[sp3dev] | stinebd: not really. i'm using Launcher2 |
| 22:02.23 | stinebd | yeah me too, it's quite noticeably slow on launcher2 |
| 22:02.23 | NeoMatrixJR | gonna patch the rest of us up so we can check it out or is it not ready? |
| 22:02.39 | Alex[sp3dev] | it is because of the animation itself, i think |
| 22:03.19 | stinebd | how about app drawer? |
| 22:03.44 | Alex[sp3dev] | stinebd: yes, app drawer seems a bit faster.. well. maybe i should fix all boards and upload the image for you to test? |
| 22:03.52 | stinebd | that's fine |
| 22:04.08 | stinebd | i'm on raph110 if you only want to do that |
| 22:04.10 | hefty | when can we test this on other devices |
| 22:04.28 | hefty | hook me up with a rhodium version :p |
| 22:04.35 | stinebd | or you could just fly a patch at me and make me do it :P |
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| 22:04.49 | Alex[sp3dev] | although hw3d is sort of broken now. it flickers heavily. will need to fix that and our 'callbacks' if the driver's going to stick. be sure to disable on-screen keyboard for now |
| 22:05.08 | hefty | how is it sort of broken lol |
| 22:05.10 | NeoMatrixJR | well, I'll have to wait. It's time to GO HOME!!! |
| 22:05.22 | stinebd | Alex[sp3dev]: the android soft keyboard? |
| 22:05.32 | Alex[sp3dev] | hefty: sorry, but i've got the feeling that you're reading only half of my messages |
| 22:05.41 | Alex[sp3dev] | stinebd: nope, the one in linux |
| 22:05.43 | stinebd | ok |
| 22:05.47 | stinebd | had me worried there ;) |
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| 22:06.07 | hefty | Alex[sp3dev] eh i wasnt sure if that was all of what you meant by sort of broken |
| 22:08.36 | hefty | anyway, progress is progress |
| 22:08.54 | Alex[sp3dev] | that's not progress.. that's copy-pasting |
| 22:09.07 | Alex[sp3dev] | http://www.mediafire.com/?a8hfmmcmtamb7zq |
| 22:09.11 | Alex[sp3dev] | the image |
| 22:09.19 | stinebd | ok thanks |
| 22:09.30 | hefty | Alex[sp3dev] that still counts no? |
| 22:09.34 | hefty | at least youre getting somewhere |
| 22:14.41 | stinebd | no display (image is last frame drawn by winmo), but it's definitely booted up (navipad lights respond). waiting on logcat to see if android actually starts heh |
| 22:14.47 | FsTluxe | dmesg when plugged usb hub in : |
| 22:15.21 | Alex[sp3dev] | stinebd: wtf. i've fixed it for kovsky, now some other crap is broken. this is never going to end |
| 22:15.30 | hefty | welcome to development |
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| 22:17.02 | FsTluxe | device is not accepting address 12, error -110 @ ubuntu Leo its seems USB mode dont work @ my devices tried also keybourd /mouse / sotrage card .. can this be singal los issu or so ? |
| 22:17.16 | FsTluxe | usb host mode |
| 22:18.44 | stinebd | let's see what ramconsole says |
| 22:19.12 | Alex[sp3dev] | phh: why does mddi_client_epson.c not have MSMFB_CAP_PARTIAL_UPDATES bit? |
| 22:19.13 | Rajko | Markinus, something weird going on with dma sync in nand driver |
| 22:19.42 | phh | Alex[sp3dev]: you're kidding me ? |
| 22:19.55 | phh | Alex[sp3dev]: I guess that's in case it seems to fast *ahum* |
| 22:20.07 | Alex[sp3dev] | hmm |
| 22:20.07 | Markinus | Rajko: still problems? |
| 22:20.13 | Alex[sp3dev] | gotta change that and see what it does |
| 22:20.16 | Rajko | yeah |
| 22:20.58 | Markinus | Rajko: hmm, yes, this errors looks like deeper problems as file system . . |
| 22:21.07 | Markinus | nand, yeah |
| 22:21.36 | Rajko | ill fix it |
| 22:21.51 | Rajko | since old yaffs seems to make device reboot when it happens |
| 22:22.24 | Markinus | Rajko: ahh, ok. The oldest driver from Cotulla worked good, but not MTD support |
| 22:22.52 | Rajko | Markinus, we never ran andriod on it |
| 22:22.54 | Markinus | Rajko: I put you in our gitorious group, so you can push directly |
| 22:23.06 | Markinus | Rajko: he is using it in maglrd |
| 22:23.12 | Markinus | right, no android |
| 22:23.24 | Markinus | I read only the wlan parameters from nand with it |
| 22:23.29 | Rajko | no |
| 22:23.33 | Rajko | that was pre that |
| 22:23.35 | Rajko | that was msm driver |
| 22:23.44 | Rajko | which works differently (and better) than our wince compatible setup |
| 22:23.59 | Markinus | Rajko: no, the msm driver had problems |
| 22:24.04 | Markinus | Rajko: the data was corrupt |
| 22:24.11 | Markinus | Rajko: only some bytes but corrupt |
| 22:24.13 | emwe | Alex[sp3dev]: the mddi client used for topa has it set, but i can only tell that there is lags. |
| 22:24.25 | Rajko | Markinus, different cw layout |
| 22:24.30 | Markinus | Rajko: I could read the mac address but some other data was wrong |
| 22:24.53 | Markinus | only with cotulla driver it worked fine |
| 22:25.03 | Rajko | it works fine still |
| 22:25.11 | Markinus | now, yes, I mean in the past |
| 22:26.56 | Markinus | Rajko: you can now push directly in |
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| 22:27.56 | FsTluxe | Guuyss device descriptor read/64, error -110 ON UBUNTU leo HOST mode... what is this?? |
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| 22:28.25 | FsTluxe | evry tim pluging usb mous or keyboard or hub... |
| 22:28.28 | FsTluxe | time |
| 22:28.58 | Alex[sp3dev] | ok.. why not overclock the panel a bit? xD |
| 22:29.35 | NeoMatrixJR_Mobi | WisTilt2 / phh: any other recent changes 2 snd? Everything seems 2 be coming from earpiece now. |
| 22:29.51 | phh | NeoMatrixJR: yes WisTilt2 putted some stuff |
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| 22:31.27 | NeoMatrixJR_Mobi | WisTilt2: still here? |
| 22:33.18 | FsTluxe | never minde guys !!! its fixed :)... |
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| 22:35.17 | NeoMatrixJR_Mobi | Odd... WisTilt2: also, I should no longer be recording...I think, yet red mute is still flashing... |
| 22:36.48 | WisTilt2 | NeoMatrixJR_Mobi you have a headset plugged in by chance? |
| 22:37.04 | arrrghhh | ah i see changes have been pushed. grabbin new kernel now :D |
| 22:37.13 | NeoMatrixJR_Mobi | Nope |
| 22:37.23 | WisTilt2 | yeah arrrghhh run it thru the ringer will ya! |
| 22:37.38 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, i'll do my best... or worst? :P |
| 22:37.58 | WisTilt2 | NeoMatrixJR_Mobi we all have the autobuild kernel running here at office and all is working just like the test kernels so far. |
| 22:38.26 | NeoMatrixJR_Mobi | WisTilt2: phone earpiece. Never tried headset since it sounded like it didn't get implemented |
| 22:38.28 | WisTilt2 | NeoMatrixJR_Mobi your voice search is working though? |
| 22:38.52 | NeoMatrixJR_Mobi | Yeah...a couple 'o times. I try again... |
| 22:39.12 | WisTilt2 | when its done searching, red light should be going out |
| 22:40.24 | NeoMatrixJR_Mobi | Huh...now it's out. Lemmie check speaker.... |
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| 22:43.14 | NeoMatrixJR | WisTilt2: speaker worked. I went in and played music, but after a few seconds (I was looking @ back) the red light came back on and started to flash (I didn't activate voice search) and then it crashed to the boot animation |
| 22:43.33 | NeoMatrixJR | after crash red light is still blinking |
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| 22:44.30 | Cass | ehlo |
| 22:44.39 | Curious_ | Markinus we have an indicator for autobrightness setting |
| 22:44.42 | Curious_ | hi |
| 22:44.43 | cr2_ | rcpt to: |
| 22:44.50 | Cass | heh :) |
| 22:44.58 | Curious_ | http://developer.android.com/reference/android/provider/Settings.System.html#SCREEN_BRIGHTNESS_MODE |
| 22:45.01 | cr2_ | mail from: |
| 22:45.04 | Cass | first person to respond like that well done :) |
| 22:45.45 | cr2_ | the first association with 'ehlo' |
| 22:45.55 | Cass | yep |
| 22:46.39 | Curious_ | join android |
| 22:46.42 | Curious_ | oopps :D |
| 22:46.56 | Curious_ | isn't there any android channel? |
| 22:47.05 | WisTilt2 | NeoMatrixJR playing just a music file and it crashed? i just played a few different mp3's, stopped then did a voice search, then back to music with np yet. |
| 22:47.24 | NeoMatrixJR | yep, just an MP3. |
| 22:47.31 | NeoMatrixJR | I will try again.... |
| 22:47.39 | F22 | kernel just crashed on me for the 2nd time today. playing a music file also, but the kernel i was running was before today's commits. |
| 22:47.39 | arrrghhh | NeoMatrixJR, do you have the newest rootfs...? |
| 22:47.53 | NeoMatrixJR | arrrghhh: I believe so |
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| 22:48.05 | F22 | er excuse me, not playing a music file, i was streaming pandora. |
| 22:48.41 | NeoMatrixJR | ok had a phone call (red flashing went away). Playing music fine now... |
| 22:48.57 | WisTilt2 | gremlins |
| 22:49.07 | NeoMatrixJR | doing voice search... |
| 22:49.51 | NeoMatrixJR | crap it...I think my data connection just froze |
| 22:50.11 | WisTilt2 | NeoMatrixJR you might check dmesg and see if you're getting any unusual errors while doing all this to narrow it down |
| 22:50.11 | NeoMatrixJR | yep |
| 22:51.35 | NeoMatrixJR | seems fine now... will dump out dmesg and try and post later. If I don't get to the gym my wife will kill me. |
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| 22:52.08 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 22:53.38 | Rajko | Markinus, dma_sync_single_for_cpu(chip->dev,data_dma_addr_curr-mtd->writesize,mtd->writesize, DMA_BIDIRECTIONAL); line seems to crash for no reason i can see |
| 22:56.01 | cr2_ | Rajko: what is 'crash' ? |
| 22:56.09 | Rajko | kernel panic |
| 22:56.12 | Rajko | reboot |
| 22:56.13 | NeoMatrixJR | WisTilt2: how to duplicate start of my problem: activate voice search (red flashing starts) hit "help" then "watch video." Youtube loads up (red flashing never stops). |
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| 22:56.31 | cr2_ | Rajko: do you have the oops text in the console buffer ? |
| 22:56.46 | Rajko | im on it |
| 22:56.47 | NeoMatrixJR | laters |
| 22:56.51 | cr2_ | ok |
| 22:57.26 | arrrghhh | NeoMatrixJR, i think that's expected as voice search is still open... |
| 22:57.56 | Rajko | haha |
| 22:58.00 | arrrghhh | although... WisTilt2 i just did this, and when i hit 'cancel' my red LED still flashes... |
| 22:58.04 | WisTilt2 | yep, as long as the device is in any record mode the light will be enabled. |
| 22:58.06 | Rajko | the letama memory offset thingy broke t. |
| 22:58.33 | arrrghhh | yea now my red led is always flashing lol |
| 22:58.44 | WisTilt2 | arrrghhh, you broke it. let me try that |
| 22:59.00 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, haha. if i complete another voice search, it goes back out. |
| 22:59.23 | Curious_ | i want to use sysfs to check whether autobrightness is on or off in android. i found out that you check whether auto-br is on or off from http://developer.android.com/reference/android/provider/Settings.System.html#SCREEN_BRIGHTNESS_MODE . so how can i write into sysfs? |
| 22:59.37 | WisTilt2 | that means the userland side isnt changing the state when you hit cancel. kernel only does what the state tells it. |
| 22:59.40 | Rajko | virt_addr_valid(kaddr)((unsigned long)(kaddr) >= PAGE_OFFSET && (unsigned long)(kaddr) < (unsigned long)high_memory) fails |
| 22:59.50 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, so stinebd is to blame? |
| 23:00.05 | arrrghhh | crap, what else was i supposed to test... |
| 23:00.19 | WisTilt2 | we'll have to double check that but looks like userland issue. |
| 23:00.26 | arrrghhh | hrm |
| 23:00.33 | arrrghhh | tried the mic/cancel trick. |
| 23:00.43 | arrrghhh | again. and it worked as it should... weird. |
| 23:00.47 | phh | welcome to my good old "android is buggy" part. |
| 23:01.16 | WisTilt2 | phh: thats why im for making a "kernel only" version:) |
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| 23:02.28 | WisTilt2 | arrrghhh i just did voice search/cancel 5-6 times and worked correct each time. completed a search and worked fine so who knows. |
| 23:02.29 | arrrghhh | well at least when the front led is reinited, the back led stops flashing. |
| 23:03.02 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, try doing the help/cancel thing without completing the search. i don't know how big of a deal it is... is the blinkin led on the back even necessary? :P |
| 23:03.25 | WisTilt2 | yeah front should go back to amber (i really hate that) after record mode stops. |
| 23:03.36 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 23:03.49 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, yea the more i test, the more i'm noticing it does work as expected. |
| 23:04.06 | arrrghhh | so it seems the times it doesn't work as expected are more infrequent. |
| 23:04.17 | WisTilt2 | red for record mode makes sense but it really is only for looks as it does nothing |
| 23:04.57 | arrrghhh | yea. it seems to work more frequently than it doesn't. |
| 23:05.20 | arrrghhh | i would say can it if it didn't work every time, but it seems to be the exception rather than the rule. |
| 23:05.34 | WisTilt2 | another thing which shouldnt have made any difference... havent had panel stay on in sleep not once. only change was i moved gpio power into board file but again, maybe it likes that better. |
| 23:06.25 | WisTilt2 | seems these devices are sensitive to timing in different areas. |
| 23:06.26 | arrrghhh | perhaps. yea screen has been turning off well... awesome work dude :D |
| 23:06.57 | WisTilt2 | phone gets nice and cold after sleeping for 10mins or so also again. |
| 23:07.18 | arrrghhh | schweet! |
| 23:07.31 | arrrghhh | all very good news. oh! i should test speakerphone. |
| 23:07.36 | arrrghhh | did you fix the mic on that too? |
| 23:07.58 | WisTilt2 | still working on that and actually need to get off here and get back on that while im in the mood. |
| 23:08.04 | arrrghhh | haha |
| 23:08.15 | arrrghhh | fair enough. i'm always down for a test when you're ready! |
| 23:08.30 | WisTilt2 | but yes, test and make sure speakerphone still plays out back and green led should come on in that mode also. |
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| 23:08.53 | arrrghhh | cool. |
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| 23:12.18 | Fstluxe-Leo-Ubun | Hi guysss It works :D:D:D haha |
| 23:12.45 | Fstluxe-Leo-Ubun | very hapu here.. |
| 23:13.01 | Fstluxe-Leo-Ubun | keyboard and mouse + storage working @ usb hub |
| 23:13.13 | arrrghhh | oh man testing speakerphone with another phone in the room is dangerous lol. so WisTilt2 speakerphone works, i get the green led, i get sound out of the speaker but mic does not work... which is to be expected. keep up the awesome work dude :) |
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| 23:44.28 | XirXes | hey when did usb get fixed on rhods? |
| 23:44.47 | arrrghhh | XirXes, oct11th commit methinks... |
| 23:45.27 | XirXes | damn im sure late to the party. |
| 23:45.31 | arrrghhh | well, oct16th then. |
| 23:45.45 | arrrghhh | oct11th was the last kernel before it. |
| 23:46.21 | XirXes | its like every day this is working better. makes me happy |
| 23:48.48 | XirXes | at some point its all gunna be working and then ill have to find something else to get excited about. lol |
| 23:49.49 | arrrghhh | hahaha |
| 23:50.06 | arrrghhh | perhaps waking up every day to a phone that runs android but strangely has a windows key on it? |
| 23:50.35 | arrrghhh | boy howdy that day seems to be drawing nearer. hopefully WisTilt2 will run out of things to fix and want to flash it, and tinboot'll get fixed :P |
| 23:50.51 | XirXes | lol. im glad t-mobile vetoed that button on my phone |
| 23:51.00 | arrrghhh | oh yea it's a home button huh |
| 23:51.00 | XirXes | not a windows logo on here |
| 23:51.18 | arrrghhh | yea, that was before m$ required such things ;) |
| 23:51.38 | XirXes | only a really small one on the back of the box. maybe there ashamed |
| 23:52.04 | XirXes | i thought that requirement started with the kovosky |
| 23:52.20 | arrrghhh | nah |
| 23:52.24 | arrrghhh | never was a requirement for winmo |
| 23:52.30 | arrrghhh | at least not to my knowledge |
| 23:52.44 | arrrghhh | supposedly m$ is starting to require a windows key on all wp7 phones now. |
| 23:52.51 | arrrghhh | windows phone 7 phones... oy ve microsoft. |
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| 23:55.15 | XirXes | well i dont even think they should have called it windows at all. winpho doesnt even resemble windows |
| 23:55.40 | XirXes | but enough off topic |
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| 23:57.04 | Curious_ | Markinus: ping |
| 23:57.50 | arrrghhh | XirXes, indeed. so have you given the newest kernel/rootfs a whirl? not quite sure if the new rootfs is required, looks like a liblights change.. |
| 23:58.45 | XirXes | just barely. tried voice search and it worked perfect. but i wasnt paying attention to the led |
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