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| 00:41.58 | Guest17167 | i need help on my htc touch pro 2 |
| 00:42.11 | Guest17167 | can someone help me |
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| 09:10.48 | manusfreedom | hi hastarin |
| 09:11.03 | manusfreedom | hastarin: what did you change in your 8.5.3? |
| 09:11.05 | hastarin | Howdy |
| 09:11.39 | hastarin | I haven't realeased it yet. Trying other smd_tty patches and the experimental (ie buggy as all hell) extended battery support. |
| 09:11.57 | hastarin | Trying to figure out how to set it up for cedesmith's init system. |
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| 09:12.20 | manusfreedom | hastarin: ok. What did you try on smd_tty? |
| 09:13.25 | hastarin | It's in my git, so feel free to look there. But it didn't work. I still managed to get a bug with smd_tty causing page allocation failures. |
| 09:14.00 | manusfreedom | ok, I am currently working on port smd part to your kernel |
| 09:14.03 | hastarin | I hadn't had them with my current setup, but tried a new build without the extra lines to tweak kernel memory and managed to do it whilst installing apps from the market. |
| 09:14.12 | manusfreedom | I will try my kernel to night I think |
| 09:14.36 | manusfreedom | (from codeaurora froyo almond) |
| 09:14.49 | hastarin | It's an annoying as all hell, intermittent bug that's a pain to track down. |
| 09:15.24 | hastarin | Possibly even something leaking memory. I'm just trying different things to see if anything helps. |
| 09:15.38 | manusfreedom | ok |
| 09:16.30 | hastarin | Of course if it's something leaking memory or a bug in the SLAB allocator then I'm really not going to get anywhere. :P |
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| 13:05.49 | gauner1986 | hi |
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| 13:48.47 | mdeejay | 1497MHZ! on HD2 :P |
| 13:49.38 | par | wow |
| 13:49.53 | bally3 | hi mdeejay :) |
| 13:50.08 | bally3 | we got your froyo build working on the tg01 now :) |
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| 13:50.32 | mdeejay | cool |
| 13:51.30 | bally3 | were there any optimisations you did specifically for the hd2? ours seems to crash sometimes.. I know ram is an issue with the tg01 though.. and our kernel isnt complete so wont help yet |
| 13:52.00 | bally3 | its got sense on it so I assume its a bit more memory hungry? |
| 13:52.08 | mdeejay | build? |
| 13:52.17 | bally3 | let me get it.. one mo |
| 13:53.15 | bally3 | HD 4.3 : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=859817 |
| 13:53.31 | mdeejay | 99% original |
| 13:53.57 | bally3 | hmm.. is there one less memory intensive? |
| 13:54.16 | bally3 | looks very nice btw :) |
| 13:56.06 | bally3 | are you ok with us adapting it to work with tg01 hardware btw? our wifi/bluetooth etc is different and I believe theres firmware files and stuff that needs to be added/changed to the system image? |
| 13:56.56 | bally3 | Alternatively,, would love it if you would help us.. since we dont have any rom builders at all |
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| 15:01.08 | Curious_ | mdeejay, is 1.35V voltage of CPU on hd2? |
| 15:01.30 | mdeejay | yes |
| 15:01.38 | Curious_ | so you are playing with clock only |
| 15:01.40 | Curious_ | hmm |
| 15:01.45 | Curious_ | how is it |
| 15:01.46 | Curious_ | too hot? |
| 15:01.52 | mdeejay | 37 |
| 15:01.56 | Curious_ | even 1.2ghz was too hat when i tried |
| 15:02.07 | Curious_ | 37 in stand by?!?!?! |
| 15:04.31 | Rajko | 1.35 is more than what a core 2 duo takes |
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| 15:29.59 | Curious_ | Rajko, ah, yeah |
| 15:30.10 | Curious_ | i make my e5200 3.6ghz with 1.375v |
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| 15:30.22 | Curious_ | so this isn't the default voltage for HD2 |
| 15:30.39 | Rajko | theyre both 65nm |
| 15:30.40 | Rajko | so it could be |
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| 15:31.04 | Curious_ | hmm |
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| 15:32.19 | mdeejay | default 1.3V |
| 15:32.26 | mdeejay | 998MHz |
| 15:32.35 | ogonzuhnina | was there anyone trying to enable USB Host on Leo under Android for current kernel? I guess I've read everything related and going to dig in a bit. I just don't know is there any base or should I start from scratch (sven killing's patch) |
| 15:32.59 | Curious_ | do it your own way |
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| 15:38.19 | InVisibleGoD | is now away - Reason : Auto-Away after 30 minutes |
| 15:44.03 | Curious_ | somebody leak magldr pls |
| 15:45.11 | ali1234 | you realise it's probably writtin in assembly anyway right? |
| 15:46.43 | noobhands | slaps Rajko |
| 15:47.03 | Rajko | no its in c |
| 15:47.06 | Rajko | bad c |
| 15:47.14 | noobhands | yea, unt |
| 15:48.17 | ali1234 | bad c? like c--? |
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| 15:53.12 | Rajko | like hackish c |
| 15:54.34 | noobhands | Super C Boy |
| 15:55.01 | noobhands | i stole your save game |
| 15:55.57 | noobhands | and im gonna run out to eastern europe to dodge you on friday |
| 15:56.22 | Rajko | thats old save game |
| 15:56.34 | noobhands | so, further than i've got |
| 15:56.42 | Rajko | its profile owned anyway |
| 15:57.06 | Rajko | wait you dont have the save, just the profile |
| 15:57.10 | noobhands | i can change it |
| 15:57.13 | noobhands | liar |
| 15:57.21 | Rajko | i only copied profile |
| 15:57.24 | Rajko | ALSO SPAM |
| 15:57.32 | noobhands | you wish blue boy |
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| 16:25.38 | gauner1986 | hi |
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| 16:27.43 | mdeejay | hi |
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| 16:29.11 | gauner1986 | hi JohnSheridan |
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| 16:29.24 | gauner1986 | hi mdeejay |
| 16:29.33 | JohnSheridan | hi hiyer |
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| 16:30.06 | mdeejay | gauner1986 http://i13.fastpic.ru/big/2010/1206/ad/7aa3d3667cc6ec6f748427a7588306ad.jpg :D |
| 16:30.23 | gauner1986 | haha :P |
| 16:30.55 | mdeejay | but fuckin BFS :( |
| 16:31.05 | mdeejay | works bad with sense |
| 16:31.12 | gauner1986 | ? |
| 16:32.56 | mdeejay | laggy scroling |
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| 16:39.24 | asdasdasd | Hi, |
| 16:39.43 | asdasdasd | The first time I used Android, a month ago, for mistake I have calibrated the gravity sensor |
| 16:39.46 | asdasdasd | Since then the gravity sensor is not working on Android (but it works on windows mobile) |
| 16:39.49 | gauner1986 | mdeejay: hm, where's the patch for bfs btw? |
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| 16:39.54 | asdasdasd | During this month I tried several builds and kernels but the sensor still does not work on Android |
| 16:39.59 | asdasdasd | Today I found that the compass does not work on windows mobile |
| 16:40.07 | asdasdasd | I'm trying to understand if those 2 thing are related between them ! |
| 16:40.16 | gauner1986 | wtf |
| 16:40.22 | gauner1986 | which device are you talking about? |
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| 16:40.29 | mdeejay | http://ck.kolivas.org/patches/bfs/2.6.32/ |
| 16:40.33 | asdasdasd | HD2 |
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| 16:40.52 | Markinus | hi |
| 16:40.55 | asdasdasd | hi |
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| 16:40.56 | gauner1986 | hey markinus |
| 16:41.07 | JohnSheridan | hh |
| 16:43.41 | dcordes | asdasdasd: our crystall ball person is on a vacation |
| 16:44.48 | asdasdasd | ? |
| 16:45.49 | asdasdasd | dcordes: sorry, but I do not understand |
| 16:45.58 | Markinus | hehe :) |
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| 16:47.37 | asdasdasd | Is it possible that calibration on android could damage the accelerometer and the compass of my hd2? |
| 16:47.53 | asdasdasd | p.s. sorry for my bad english |
| 16:48.38 | Rajko | of course, it will make it explode |
| 16:48.49 | arrrghhh | naturally. |
| 16:49.14 | Rajko | also make the compass point to nearest living thing for you to kill |
| 16:49.18 | Rajko | as if possessed by demons |
| 16:49.25 | asdasdasd | -.-'' |
| 16:49.58 | arrrghhh | Rajko: can you port that feature over to the tp2? that sounds excellent. |
| 16:51.17 | csy7550 | i got that feature on mine.. a month left of my contract and it has started falling apart.. awaiting explotion |
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| 16:53.23 | crawling | ohay! |
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| 17:01.37 | klajmajk | Hi guys is that true that GPS driver is not working 100% that it can't write to the chip? And could this help in making it work? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=853383&highlight=gps+fix |
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| 17:11.26 | Markinus | klajmajk: there are some apps which you can use, like gpssttaus |
| 17:11.32 | Markinus | klajmajk: this do same stuff like agps |
| 17:11.46 | Markinus | klajmajk: quickgps |
| 17:12.00 | Markinus | *GPS Status |
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| 17:13.52 | klajmajk | there are but they dont speed fix so much as quick gps in WM does |
| 17:14.29 | Markinus | and change the region in gps.conf |
| 17:14.38 | Markinus | after this I have ca. 10 sek t |
| 17:15.30 | Markinus | now. 5 sekonds, in a room :) |
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| 17:17.43 | klajmajk | I mentioned everything iin the forum link but with everything writen there im on let say 2 mins. With quick gps in winmo the first fix in android after that is superfast like it's supposed to be but the others are slow like if somethin deleted the data quick gps recorded |
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| 17:20.24 | klajmajk | And do you see the siglal bars from diferent satelites before you get fixed(in Gps test or Gps Status)? On desire they show up immediately after opening app and then just change color but on hd2 they show up just after fix. |
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| 17:22.32 | Markinus | klajmajk: I tested it now second time. I restarted the phone. Did nothing else as start gps status, after 4 seconds I had I fix |
| 17:23.16 | Markinus | gps sttaus -> tools -> refresh agps |
| 17:23.25 | Markinus | important |
| 17:23.41 | klajmajk | so may be it's build specific |
| 17:26.03 | klajmajk | are you using ane publicly availiable build? and is it sense or not? |
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| 17:28.49 | en1gma | i paid for Jmz dual boot version 5 and was wondering does it need to execute the clrcad.exe like we do before we boot into android off sd card for the device? |
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| 17:40.01 | arrrghhh | en1gma: this isn't a support channel. since you paid for it, why don't you ask him for support? makes sense to me, isn't that what you paid for? |
| 17:43.50 | [acl] | paid ? woa |
| 17:43.59 | [acl] | i should charge for the modded 3d driver then :-p |
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| 17:44.34 | arrrghhh | [acl]: lol. yea there's some yokel charging for a gen.y-like dual-boot app. |
| 17:44.48 | [acl] | jeez |
| 17:44.52 | [acl] | scum bag |
| 17:45.10 | JesusFreak316 | There weren't any good alternatives when he first started charging. |
| 17:45.13 | JesusFreak316 | There are now. |
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| 17:45.35 | arrrghhh | JesusFreak316: gen.y was out long before he started his app. |
| 17:45.46 | JesusFreak316 | Isn't supported on HD2. |
| 17:45.52 | arrrghhh | i had a discussion with him on xda, he claims his app is written from the ground up. |
| 17:45.57 | JesusFreak316 | HD2 requires you start clrcad.exe too. |
| 17:45.59 | arrrghhh | oh i don't use gen.y, no clue what it supports. |
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| 17:48.03 | dcordes | en1gma: nobody in hear sells anything |
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| 17:48.22 | arrrghhh | i'm sure he didn't get it from us :P |
| 17:49.24 | dcordes | there are people selling leo kenrel on ebay. nothing illegal about it but if such people are seen here no savety will be guaranteed.. |
| 17:50.07 | Markinus | urgh .. |
| 17:50.16 | gauner1986 | lol |
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| 17:50.42 | gauner1986 | what dumb people buy that? |
| 17:53.27 | arrrghhh | wow |
| 17:53.47 | arrrghhh | i didn't realize that. i thought the schmos charging people to put android on their phones was bad enough... |
| 17:54.22 | gauner1986 | hm |
| 17:54.25 | gauner1986 | lets make money! |
| 17:54.26 | gauner1986 | :D |
| 17:54.40 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 17:54.56 | JesusFreak316 | At least the thread was closed. |
| 17:55.21 | [acl] | dont give glemom ideas .. he might begin charging :-p |
| 17:55.52 | JesusFreak316 | For each kernel? O.o that would suck, lol. |
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| 17:58.14 | gijvdgi | hey mdeejay does ur kernel support usbhost wid external powered hub |
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| 18:18.05 | LordDeath | http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-2.3-highlights.html |
| 18:18.18 | LordDeath | now with kernel 2.6.35 |
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| 21:01.49 | manusfreedom | hastarin: how did you compile your kernel? |
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| 21:23.01 | dan1j3l1 | hi |
| 21:24.09 | gauner1986 | hi dan |
| 21:24.23 | dan1j3l1 | hi gau |
| 21:24.34 | dan1j3l1 | ping dcordes |
| 21:26.40 | dan1j3l1 | gauner1986: anything new ? |
| 21:26.59 | gauner1986 | hm, desire hd build has the cam working |
| 21:27.16 | gauner1986 | i use it as main build now |
| 21:27.18 | gauner1986 | it's nice |
| 21:28.05 | dan1j3l1 | hmmm... i'll stick with my desire build for now... too lazy to change it... :p |
| 21:28.38 | gauner1986 | you're on haret.. that's boring anyway :P |
| 21:28.59 | dan1j3l1 | now playing with meego and debian (xfce4)... |
| 21:29.09 | gauner1986 | hm |
| 21:29.13 | gauner1986 | hows meego? |
| 21:29.14 | gauner1986 | usable? |
| 21:29.22 | dan1j3l1 | actually i like wince :) |
| 21:29.27 | gauner1986 | any apps for it? |
| 21:30.13 | dan1j3l1 | just started with meego (actually continuing my work from past two months)... |
| 21:31.09 | dan1j3l1 | it'll be nice OS addition to our "library" :D |
| 21:32.16 | gauner1986 | :P |
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| 21:32.41 | gauner1986 | nothing really hard i guess.. as it's just userspace stuff |
| 21:33.03 | gauner1986 | the really interesting addition would be.. apple's ios kernel |
| 21:33.05 | gauner1986 | ;) |
| 21:33.24 | gauner1986 | at least it would be funny |
| 21:33.32 | Rajko | no way to make driversfor that |
| 21:33.33 | Rajko | so no |
| 21:34.04 | dan1j3l1 | no way with apple |
| 21:34.47 | gauner1986 | i thought so.. just wanted to have some fun thoughts spinning around :P |
| 21:35.06 | dan1j3l1 | :p |
| 21:36.15 | gauner1986 | we would publish it on wikileaks |
| 21:37.06 | LordDeath | then you would need to hide for the next months |
| 21:37.16 | LordDeath | otherwise the apple assassins would kill you |
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| 21:41.59 | XirXes | i just found 2.6.32 kernel source from a device with the MSM 7201a |
| 21:44.58 | XirXes | http://goo.gl/aYB6U |
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| 21:45.47 | XirXes | its the huawei Ideos 8150. im leaving that here in hopes that it helps |
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| 22:06.14 | dan1j3l1 | time to chroot debian :) |
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| 22:10.03 | lolmensch | gauner1986? |
| 22:10.13 | gauner1986 | y |
| 22:10.29 | lolmensch | if you are really bored try to port gingerbread ;) |
| 22:11.00 | dan1j3l1 | where is gingerbread "leak" ? |
| 22:11.35 | gauner1986 | gimme a copy |
| 22:11.48 | lolmensch | some nexus one's already have received an update. just hard to find. and sdk is released as well (not so useful anyway) |
| 22:12.01 | MN2 | there is no update for n1 yet |
| 22:12.12 | MN2 | only sdk has been released |
| 22:12.15 | lolmensch | according to engadget there are |
| 22:12.33 | dan1j3l1 | fuc* any good hex ed in linux that will NOT load complete 4Gb file in memory ???? |
| 22:12.57 | MN2 | no they updated their post |
| 22:13.36 | gauner1986 | dan1j3l1: lol |
| 22:14.03 | dan1j3l1 | it almost crached my laptop... |
| 22:14.18 | dan1j3l1 | and that would be BAAAD... |
| 22:14.19 | gauner1986 | who edits 4gb files? |
| 22:14.20 | gauner1986 | :P |
| 22:14.35 | dan1j3l1 | me |
| 22:14.39 | dan1j3l1 | :p |
| 22:15.29 | lolmensch | @MN2 now you made me sad :/ |
| 22:17.06 | jonpry | probably need 64bit linux for 4gb files |
| 22:17.32 | arrrghhh | lolmensch: yea Engadget had to pull it. |
| 22:18.29 | dan1j3l1 | mount -o loop,offset=512 meego-handset-armv7l.raw /mnt |
| 22:18.31 | lolmensch | yeah saw it. hoped that hd2 nand/magldr would come with a fast gingerbread rom :D (a man can dream :P) |
| 22:18.37 | dan1j3l1 | fck* |
| 22:18.54 | arrrghhh | lolmensch: with that said, you should take this convo to #htc-linux-chat |
| 22:19.02 | arrrghhh | this room is for development chatter ONLY. |
| 22:19.04 | dan1j3l1 | need to move chat window to another workspace... :p |
| 22:19.13 | JesusFreak316 | Not pulled: just updated. |
| 22:19.34 | arrrghhh | JesusFreak316: they must've pulled and then updated it. cuz it was pulled last time i checked. |
| 22:19.47 | JesusFreak316 | http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/06/android-2-3-update-now-rolling-out-to-nexus-one-owners/ |
| 22:19.58 | lolmensch | i'm sorry --> i'm gone :P |
| 22:20.20 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 22:20.21 | arrrghhh | don't you forget it lolmensch. |
| 22:20.40 | JesusFreak316 | dan1j3l1: meego? O.o I love you long time. |
| 22:20.50 | arrrghhh | creepy. |
| 22:22.20 | bzo | hey jonpry |
| 22:22.45 | jonpry | hey bzo |
| 22:23.06 | bzo | done with your tablet yet so you can back to some real work? :p |
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| 22:24.42 | jonpry | bzo: i'm getting there :p htc-linux is more important though |
| 22:25.51 | bzo | lol |
| 22:25.59 | bzo | what I really wanted to bother you about was RPC |
| 22:26.08 | bzo | have you messed with it much? |
| 22:26.16 | phh | oh the beloved thing :) |
| 22:26.20 | phh | that makes crash A9 for anything |
| 22:26.27 | bzo | yeah, trying to figure out why I'm getting a lockup |
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| 22:41.34 | jonpry | bzo: well anything wrong in the packet will crash a9 |
| 22:42.00 | bzo | I'm running some rpc calls that are known to work on the diam100 |
| 22:42.11 | bzo | on the rhod though, hang |
| 22:42.30 | bzo | wince dlls on both were disassembled |
| 22:42.37 | bzo | and they are the same except for the version |
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| 22:43.35 | jonpry | that doesn't mean much :p |
| 22:43.42 | [acl] | bzo: what calls ? |
| 22:43.53 | jonpry | you changed the version when doing it on rhod? |
| 22:44.09 | bzo | yeah |
| 22:44.14 | jonpry | it is usually a bad assumption to think that rpc calls are used/work just because they are in the dll |
| 22:44.17 | phh | did you like I (and cr2 :D) did with gps for a long time like forgetting ACKs ? :D |
| 22:44.29 | jonpry | first thing would be to make sure that is actually happening on winmo |
| 22:44.32 | bzo | [acl] vfe_rail |
| 22:44.37 | [acl] | ahh |
| 22:44.47 | phh | yeah many rpcs in dlls doesn't even have the procid registered |
| 22:45.04 | [acl] | bzo: wince doesnt use rpc for that does it ? need to check that shit out |
| 22:45.13 | bzo | phh: eh, its a very simple call. Hangs right away. |
| 22:45.29 | phh | well if it hangs, i might say it works :D |
| 22:45.36 | bzo | [acl] there is a function, but I guess it's posible it's not used |
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| 22:45.46 | [acl] | phh: might have the same issue i had when tried to enable grp rail at first.. |
| 22:45.48 | bzo | phh: lol, yeah since it's called with uninterruptable |
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| 22:46.25 | bzo | here's the code: http://gitorious.org/~jbruneaux/linux-on-qualcomm-s-msm/linux-msm-home-work/blobs/htc-msm-camera_cyano_test/arch/arm/mach-msm/clock-rpc.c |
| 22:46.50 | bzo | whether I use the jbruneaux code, or just rip out the one little piece I'm testing, same result |
| 22:47.43 | [acl] | jeez grp via rpc.. |
| 22:47.57 | [acl] | when i talked about that i got a name calling of a life time |
| 22:48.40 | bzo | jbruneaux doesn't seem to be aware of the hatred for the rpc stuff :) |
| 22:48.56 | [acl] | alex has some deep hatred |
| 22:49.04 | phh | hey I love rpc ! |
| 22:49.05 | phh | if it works. |
| 22:49.11 | bzo | but for the vfe rail, I think a lot of effort will be needed to reverse a non-rpc implementation |
| 22:49.22 | [acl] | phh: thats not what u said when i tried using it |
| 22:49.23 | [acl] | lol |
| 22:49.33 | phh | [acl]: that's why I say "if it works". |
| 22:49.50 | phh | bzo: should be like grp, but another bit, no ? |
| 22:50.11 | bzo | phh: you would think, but there seems to be some other magic stuff that happens |
| 22:50.22 | phh | great ! magic is good ! :p |
| 22:50.24 | [acl] | bzo: are you basing everything off alex clocks? |
| 22:51.08 | bzo | [acl] sometimes, been switching back and forth |
| 22:51.23 | bzo | but the vfe type stuff seems to be taken from phh's original stuff |
| 22:51.35 | phh | which have never worked. |
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| 22:51.49 | [acl] | bzo: should work on haret.. odd. |
| 22:52.07 | [acl] | have fun with that.. im too busy :-\ |
| 22:52.21 | phh | well, i got som success with some of those clocks |
| 22:52.27 | phh | but I can't really remember which ones. |
| 22:52.27 | bzo | phh: I think the clock related stuff was ok, just no handling of the rail |
| 22:52.40 | phh | yeah possibly |
| 22:53.36 | [acl] | bzo: if its anything like grp.. then its all mixed up |
| 22:53.40 | [acl] | wince just does it all in one shot |
| 22:53.46 | [acl] | both imem and grp clocks plus rail |
| 22:54.04 | [acl] | rpc call for grp actually only does grp itself and you have to do the imem clk separately |
| 22:54.30 | [acl] | dog poo |
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| 22:55.12 | bzo | [acl] busy? I thought you got rid of the distraction of a girlfriend? :P |
| 22:55.25 | [acl] | bzo: framebuffer testing .. |
| 22:55.41 | [acl] | bzo: stinedb said the modded gralloc doesnt help raph |
| 22:55.50 | bzo | ah, still at the framebuffer |
| 22:55.57 | phh | wow still there ? |
| 22:55.57 | bzo | well, that is the improvement I'm most looking forward to |
| 22:56.06 | phh | or wait |
| 22:56.13 | phh | what change are you talking about ? |
| 22:56.44 | [acl] | phh: uve been away ? .. posted a modded gralloc and qcom lib |
| 22:57.08 | jonpry | does it make angry birds better? |
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| 22:57.23 | bzo | jonpry: that is the whole point! |
| 22:57.26 | [acl] | jonpry: nahh.. angry birds is dog shit.. its lagy on the hero |
| 22:57.38 | [acl] | hero has 40 something fps |
| 22:57.41 | [acl] | still dog slow |
| 22:57.53 | [acl] | rovio just needs to optimize better |
| 22:58.09 | jonpry | hmm, then what is the point of gralloc change? |
| 22:58.21 | [acl] | i went from 17 to 20 fps |
| 22:58.27 | jonpry | :p |
| 22:58.31 | [acl] | i had tears |
| 22:58.45 | jonpry | 20 is rockin |
| 22:58.52 | [acl] | and logs were just begging to be looked into |
| 22:59.06 | bzo | I don't understand how such a simple game requires so much processing power |
| 22:59.18 | jonpry | physics engine |
| 22:59.29 | [acl] | ahh |
| 22:59.32 | [acl] | didnt think about that |
| 22:59.36 | phh | yeah angry birds is so physically realistic ! |
| 22:59.38 | phh | (sorry.) |
| 22:59.40 | bzo | I guess the lack of fpu kills us then |
| 22:59.47 | phh | (ok i've seen waaaaaaaaay worse) |
| 23:00.16 | jonpry | probably, there are fixed point maths for things. well its not realistics, but its a large n body simulations with mass and springs and stuff |
| 23:00.25 | [acl] | jonpry: but for the rhod.. this mem fix takes care of other crap like the 3d gallery issue |
| 23:00.45 | [acl] | jonpry: also sense ui 3d fully works now.. get nice clouds on the screen :-) |
| 23:00.49 | jonpry | oO |
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| 23:02.44 | JesusFreak316 | Meh, it's not the physics; it lags when nothings moving and it works just fine on my sister's 2nd gen ipod touch. |
| 23:02.50 | JesusFreak316 | I call crappy porting. |
| 23:02.55 | phh | lol |
| 23:03.01 | jonpry | ipod has fpu |
| 23:03.07 | phh | jonpry: really ? oO |
| 23:03.08 | JesusFreak316 | Oh, meh. |
| 23:03.17 | phh | damn |
| 23:03.22 | JesusFreak316 | Even the old 400mhz ones? |
| 23:03.25 | bzo | ipod also has a sense of childlike wonder |
| 23:03.29 | jonpry | and the trouble with dynamics engines is that they take in inordinate amount of time to figure out that nothing is moving |
| 23:03.49 | jonpry | its kind of like saying well the universe must be taking a brake because my house isn't falling down atm |
| 23:03.49 | [acl] | i should just give up then |
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| 23:06.21 | [acl] | jonpry: but yeah .. the 3d fixes all angry birds graphics.. so that got the crowd wild.. |
| 23:06.59 | jonpry | well congrats |
| 23:07.07 | F22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:08.50 | JesusFreak316 | Would explain a lot. |
| 23:09.30 | [acl] | phh: so when are you coming out of retirement ? |
| 23:09.55 | phh | when i get time ! |
| 23:10.07 | jonpry | right around the time the prypad hits shelves |
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| 23:10.27 | phh | and even when I have time, i've many funny things to do with my AC100 :p |
| 23:10.39 | phh | (like opengles X11 compositing \o/) |
| 23:11.04 | jonpry | in android? |
| 23:11.16 | Alex[sp3dev] | X11 in android? woot |
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| 23:11.56 | jonpry | imho thats the coolest project since sliced bread. tmzt was working on it |
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| 23:12.20 | phh | not in android. |
| 23:12.31 | phh | I'll let that crazy thing to tmzt :p |
| 23:12.33 | jonpry | just GLXes? |
| 23:12.48 | phh | that's not glx, that's egl |
| 23:12.56 | phh | (don't ask me the difference, i've no clue) |
| 23:13.04 | phh | but yeah that's simple opengles over X11 |
| 23:13.18 | jonpry | does it run glxgears? |
| 23:13.35 | phh | no |
| 23:13.39 | JesusFreak316 | glxgears>3dmark vantage |
| 23:13.41 | phh | need a modified version |
| 23:14.00 | phh | no glx app can run :( |
| 23:14.08 | phh | I'd need to port every game I want |
| 23:14.14 | jonpry | wtf. isn't opengl 1.0 like the simplest thing ever to implement in hardware? |
| 23:14.24 | phh | oh opengl 1.0 is implemented |
| 23:14.25 | Alex[sp3dev] | it's gles, not opengl |
| 23:14.32 | phh | mostly. |
| 23:14.38 | phh | but GL_QUAD and glBegin/glEnd |
| 23:14.50 | phh | and the other problem is glx vs egl |
| 23:14.50 | jonpry | iirc it allows you to triangle projection in software |
| 23:15.25 | phh | i've tried porting one damn simple game (transcend) |
| 23:15.30 | phh | and.... that's a total fail \o/ |
| 23:15.41 | jonpry | that all sounds horrible |
| 23:16.01 | [acl] | ok boys and girls.. or just boys i think .. gotta go .. |
| 23:16.02 | phh | i'll try that again later, but first on my priority is kwin gles |
| 23:16.06 | jonpry | why not right an opengl driver that uses egl for whatever it can |
| 23:16.08 | Alex[sp3dev] | it's just that opengl 4 has no glBegin/glEnd. and opengl es 2.0 is essentialy opengl 4. you have to make a wrapper that would convert old gl 2.0 calls to the newer api |
| 23:16.28 | phh | Alex[sp3dev]: there are some, but I couldn't get one to work. |
| 23:17.19 | Alex[sp3dev] | yeah.. most of them (like mesa) are just doing the opposite |
| 23:18.09 | phh | someone did an ogles backend to mesa |
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| 23:18.16 | phh | but i couldn't even get it to build |
| 23:18.17 | jonpry | wrapper, have i heard that before? |
| 23:18.21 | phh | -_-' |
| 23:18.28 | Alex[sp3dev] | wrappah |
| 23:18.31 | phh | jonpry: you want to do a opengles=>opengl wrapper ? :D |
| 23:18.58 | phh | better, glx/opengl => EGL/opengles |
| 23:19.38 | jonpry | not atm. but at some point in the future i might end up doing it |
| 23:20.08 | phh | you just need an gles driver for xorg on qualcomm ? :D |
| 23:21.28 | jonpry | well, now i have an sgx 530 |
| 23:21.28 | phh | *or* you need tmzt's stuff |
| 23:21.42 | phh | jonpry: ah ? on what device ? |
| 23:22.15 | jonpry | prypad |
| 23:22.31 | phh | ah :) |
| 23:22.40 | phh | omap3 based ? |
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| 23:23.26 | jonpry | dm3730 |
| 23:23.55 | jonpry | i've always wanted to get opencascade running on my phone |
| 23:24.21 | jonpry | i think it will work ok with neon, but need gl :p |
| 23:26.23 | phh | 20MPoly/seconds ? boooouhhhhhhh! : p |
| 23:26.52 | phh | just saying. |
| 23:26.56 | JesusFreak316 | That's just tegra 1 too right? |
| 23:27.28 | jonpry | yeah its not that great |
| 23:28.07 | jonpry | not like [acl] as his 80Mpolys |
| 23:28.14 | JesusFreak316 | Galaxy S? |
| 23:28.20 | phh | i've 90MPoly/s ! :p |
| 23:28.28 | JesusFreak316 | Adreno 200 in the snapdragon is only 22M |
| 23:28.32 | phh | I should overclock it. on 1024x600 that sucks. |
| 23:28.36 | jonpry | yeah some kind of Galaxy |
| 23:28.49 | jonpry | thats the thing. everything is no good on LPDDR1 |
| 23:31.28 | jonpry | blow all your memory bandwidth on framebuffer |
| 23:36.19 | FsTluxe | guys what is the advantage of running a HD2 @ 1.5 GHZ....:S performance compared witg 1.13 ghz... |
| 23:36.26 | FsTluxe | is nothing |
| 23:37.43 | JesusFreak316 | FsTluxe: http://www.youtube.com/user/HD2Owner#p/u/0/TUj_4PFOe4A |
| 23:38.02 | JesusFreak316 | The 3d seems to get a decent boost |
| 23:42.12 | FsTluxe | hmzz |
| 23:42.56 | FsTluxe | strange.. cause .. the old michpyra r11 kernel (1.19ghz) scores higher on my device |
| 23:45.51 | JesusFreak316 | You got higher than 2057? Anyhoo, this conversation should be in htc-linux-chat |
| 23:46.22 | FsTluxe | its nice to see that high speed.. No my max score was 1980@ 1.19 ghz |
| 23:46.34 | FsTluxe | ok |
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