| 00:00.03 | Alex[sp3dev] | it is identifying as mt9t013 |
| 00:00.12 | Alex[sp3dev] | i mean, to the userspace |
| 00:01.04 | bzo | seems like that is stretching the truth a bit! |
| 00:01.43 | bzo | reason I ask is that jb wants to get the blackstone working, and I was wondering if it uses the same cam as kov |
| 00:01.49 | Alex[sp3dev] | go rewrite the library if you want it to be honest. |
| 00:02.02 | Alex[sp3dev] | afaik blackstone is 5MP and kovs is 3.15MP |
| 00:03.28 | bzo | he finally got a newer liboemcamera to load that recognizes the blackstone cam |
| 00:03.40 | bzo | sounds like it is going to be a pain to get working with the current drivers though |
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| 00:09.52 | emwe | are the merge talks already over? hm. |
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| 00:16.28 | phh | emwe: well I already talked to jbruneaux about that before |
| 00:17.45 | phh | so he already removed the part I disliked |
| 00:17.47 | phh | well I hope he did. |
| 00:18.23 | emwe | phh: did you have a chance to look at alexs .35, yet? |
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| 01:31.38 | Rajko | gauner1986, did you update git with gingerbread version of libgps ? |
| 01:32.02 | gauner1986 | nope, it breaks the old version |
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| 01:34.15 | gauner1986 | i can give you a diff if you want to make it compatible somehow |
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| 01:51.17 | Rajko | you can just make a fork |
| 01:51.23 | Rajko | atm therse no source to compile it from |
| 01:51.46 | Rajko | its to support the new gingerbread gps rework, yeah ? |
| 01:52.13 | gauner1986 | yeah |
| 01:52.41 | gauner1986 | actually it requires modifying two of the libs in cm gingerbread tree |
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| 01:55.29 | Rajko | push it to git |
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| 02:00.02 | gauner1986 | fm radio fixed |
| 02:00.10 | gauner1986 | now everything works on cm7 |
| 02:02.10 | crawling | isn't the fix the same as before? then it was already fixed o.o |
| 02:03.36 | gauner1986 | seems it was just permissions |
| 02:03.39 | gauner1986 | again |
| 02:03.43 | gauner1986 | i hate security |
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| 03:24.15 | gauner1986 | rajko: still here? |
| 03:24.27 | Rajko | yes |
| 03:24.39 | gauner1986 | can you test sth for me please? |
| 03:24.43 | gauner1986 | localhost / # echo 1 > /sys/class/leds/green/brightness |
| 03:24.43 | gauner1986 | localhost / # echo 1 > /sys/class/leds/green/blink |
| 03:24.51 | gauner1986 | if your led starts to blink |
| 03:25.07 | gauner1986 | it doesnt for me on latest git kernel |
| 03:25.11 | gauner1986 | and latest magldr |
| 03:26.29 | Rajko | dont have a working system atm |
| 03:26.38 | gauner1986 | hm |
| 03:26.39 | gauner1986 | ok |
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| 04:18.52 | WisTilt2 | arrrghhh you around or out on the town? |
| 04:30.02 | arrrghhh_ | hey hey |
| 04:30.05 | arrrghhh_ | there's two of me |
| 04:31.04 | WisTilt2 | there you are. didnt see your double in there |
| 04:31.25 | arrrghhh | haha sorry. forgot my desktop was still on. |
| 04:31.52 | arrrghhh | playin around with this camera madness. i was hoping to deposit a check w/the usaa app :P |
| 04:32.04 | arrrghhh | what are you up to man? |
| 04:32.37 | WisTilt2 | hey have you ever tested battery drain difference between mode 1 and 2? on the 300 there is absolutely no difference. thats with my panel changes though but just curious. |
| 04:32.47 | arrrghhh | hrm |
| 04:32.53 | arrrghhh | i wonder if there is no difference now |
| 04:33.43 | WisTilt2 | didnt look at the actual sleep mode code to see but arm9 still drops to the same low power mode in both so dont know |
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| 04:34.10 | arrrghhh | tiad8 was sayin something about sleep mode 1,2 |
| 04:34.15 | arrrghhh | dunno wtf that would do |
| 04:35.10 | WisTilt2 | no such thing, whats he talking about? if you put that on command line you will get an unknown cmd error on boot and it will default to whatever the default sleep mode is. |
| 04:35.47 | WisTilt2 | have him check his dmesg and he will see an error at the beginning of boot when cmdline is read |
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| 04:38.00 | WisTilt2 | anyway, on more important stuff... i mentioned this to stinebd yesterday but im now damn near 100% that that nasty system server issue is caused by the location service when you either loose cell signal, switch cells if weak, or have not locked to the cellsite before that service runs. |
| 04:38.34 | WisTilt2 | thought it might be userland related but its definitely ril related so dont know who wants to tackle that, not me:) |
| 04:38.50 | arrrghhh | that's awesome. sorry, i stepped away. |
| 04:39.10 | arrrghhh | don't you have some RIL monkey? |
| 04:39.11 | arrrghhh | :P |
| 04:39.47 | arrrghhh | who is the RIL guy here anyways? i think phh and maybe cr2... i can't remember. i think the RIL was basically taken from dzo's work on vogue. |
| 04:40.23 | WisTilt2 | yeah but cant put any of them on this until we finish our own device. we launch March 1st and need certs before that so we're kind of under the gun. |
| 04:41.25 | WisTilt2 | one thing i told stinebd was that i went all the way back to sept17th rootfs and the problem went away, which made me think it was userland related. |
| 04:43.07 | arrrghhh | hrm |
| 04:43.10 | arrrghhh | i'm sure he loved that :P |
| 04:45.07 | WisTilt2 | yeah but he thought ril also. should be fun for whoever to find. i turned off the wireless location and for over 2 days now not a single system server problem and i've rebooted phone a dozen times over that time to try and make it happen. |
| 04:45.23 | arrrghhh | awesome. |
| 04:45.37 | arrrghhh | problem solved, don't use the phone as a phone! |
| 04:46.17 | F22 | wasn't wireless location not working properly in the september builds? |
| 04:46.19 | F22 | lol |
| 04:47.03 | WisTilt2 | im pretty sure the sod is also coming from system server |
| 04:47.35 | WisTilt2 | F22: it wasn't? that would point to that for sure |
| 04:47.47 | arrrghhh | well netloc doesn't work for cdma |
| 04:47.51 | arrrghhh | so... i dunno |
| 04:48.26 | F22 | i could have sworn i read something about it getting fixed in userland at some point. |
| 04:48.46 | arrrghhh | for gsm, yes |
| 04:49.37 | WisTilt2 | you get the system server problem often? |
| 04:49.46 | arrrghhh | pretty much every boot |
| 04:49.47 | arrrghhh | just call vm |
| 04:50.07 | WisTilt2 | you're cdma or gsm? |
| 04:50.11 | arrrghhh | cdma |
| 04:50.19 | arrrghhh | i mean the phone does both, but i use cdma |
| 04:50.37 | WisTilt2 | so wireless locations do not work on cdma correct? |
| 04:51.50 | arrrghhh | no, netloc does not work for cdma. gps works, and wifi loc i think works... |
| 04:52.34 | arrrghhh | if you're connected to a wireless router, i think it may give an approx loc based on the ip. not sure... i remember reading someone say that... never tried it tho. |
| 04:53.20 | WisTilt2 | so do you have it checked or unchecked? |
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| 04:55.04 | arrrghhh | unchecked, never does anything. but i never use wifi either. |
| 04:55.41 | arrrghhh | i just remember someone with a DIAM500 (Sprint) had gotten it to work once, thought it was netloc. they claimed to be getting it from their wlan... |
| 04:57.11 | arrrghhh | so... i have a weird question. it seems my froyo.user.conf is not being parsed. other than being in the conf directory, what else does it need? |
| 04:57.14 | WisTilt2 | interesting... with mine enabled i get the problem, disabled no problem. but your's is disabled and you still have the problem. |
| 04:57.32 | arrrghhh | so with netloc disabled you never get that system_server issue? |
| 04:57.50 | WisTilt2 | not once in over 2days now |
| 04:58.00 | arrrghhh | oh i thought you disabled the cell radio |
| 04:58.06 | arrrghhh | i didn't realize you just disabled netloc. |
| 04:58.09 | arrrghhh | mine's never enabled |
| 04:58.12 | arrrghhh | i guess i should enable it...? lol |
| 04:58.13 | WisTilt2 | no, just unchecked wireless location |
| 04:58.24 | arrrghhh | yea i have both disabled |
| 04:58.39 | arrrghhh | having gps enabled kills sleep, as i know you're well aware of. |
| 04:58.41 | WisTilt2 | what rootfs you running nov15? |
| 04:58.45 | arrrghhh | yup |
| 04:58.47 | arrrghhh | 11/15 |
| 04:59.23 | WisTilt2 | same here and i think its 11/17ish system image. |
| 04:59.39 | arrrghhh | FRX03? |
| 04:59.42 | WisTilt2 | yep |
| 04:59.46 | arrrghhh | k |
| 04:59.52 | arrrghhh | stupid cdma |
| 04:59.56 | arrrghhh | i miss netloc |
| 05:00.01 | arrrghhh | in android |
| 05:00.40 | WisTilt2 | with current kernel problem gone with location off. rootfs sept17 and current kernel and location on no problem. |
| 05:02.06 | WisTilt2 | F22 how often you having that problem? |
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| 05:03.33 | F22 | varies, some days it seems like every time i boot. others i'm good for several boots before it pops up. |
| 05:05.41 | arrrghhh | F22, does it go away with netloc disabled? |
| 05:05.43 | WisTilt2 | have either of you noticed a divide by zero kernel error in logs at all? |
| 05:08.24 | F22 | just grep'd through a bunch of logs from nov & dec, only found a div by zero error in 1 log where i was testing out fps2d. |
| 05:08.47 | F22 | dmesg's that is. |
| 05:09.15 | WisTilt2 | can you paste several secs before and after that error so i can take a look |
| 05:09.45 | F22 | sure thing |
| 05:10.11 | WisTilt2 | the couple ive noticed happen around radio related then shortly after the binder errors start dumping |
| 05:13.25 | WisTilt2 | arrrghhh: is netloc in cdma problem because of the carrier or its just not implemented in android for cdma? |
| 05:13.51 | F22 | hmm...end call & binder error just before the first occurrence. |
| 05:13.53 | arrrghhh | i'm sure native android phones on cdma networks netloc works |
| 05:14.10 | arrrghhh | netloc just doesn't work on cdma on any of the phones supported by XDAndroid. |
| 05:15.30 | WisTilt2 | sounds fixable. anyone ever try working on that? |
| 05:16.14 | WisTilt2 | not that im offering:) have to finish button lights to commit and finish this panel stuff. |
| 05:17.37 | WisTilt2 | F22: anxiously awaits log.... |
| 05:18.31 | F22 | http://pastebin.com/EPFWzFtD |
| 05:18.45 | F22 | first occurence is 97 |
| 05:18.58 | F22 | second is 182 |
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| 05:19.53 | WisTilt2 | F22: you not running autobl? |
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| 05:20.15 | F22 | i told you the log was old. |
| 05:20.39 | WisTilt2 | ah |
| 05:20.56 | F22 | Dec. 10th |
| 05:21.44 | WisTilt2 | Looks like it happened coming out of sleep both times |
| 05:22.03 | F22 | yep |
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| 05:25.09 | bzo | hey guys |
| 05:25.18 | arrrghhh | what up bzo |
| 05:25.30 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, i don't think anyone has taken a serious look at netloc on cdma |
| 05:25.31 | F22 | hiya bzo |
| 05:25.43 | bzo | wow, just had my best battery life session yet |
| 05:25.52 | bzo | 45 hours to 10% |
| 05:26.02 | arrrghhh | but i'm not sure. bzo and acl have rhod400's afaik... |
| 05:26.09 | bzo | yep |
| 05:26.09 | arrrghhh | 45 hours!??! wowza |
| 05:26.13 | WisTilt2 | hey bzo |
| 05:26.15 | F22 | very nice |
| 05:26.16 | bzo | virtually no use though |
| 05:26.18 | arrrghhh | bzo, what's up with netloc for cdma? |
| 05:26.23 | bzo | no idea |
| 05:26.33 | arrrghhh | has anyone looked into it? |
| 05:26.48 | WisTilt2 | bzo: you running my panel code or the standard? |
| 05:26.50 | arrrghhh | i don't think anyone has. it'd be nice. |
| 05:27.31 | bzo | actually, loc is not implemented for cdma |
| 05:27.44 | bzo | on of the vogue guys passed us the info once to implement it, but no one has looked at it |
| 05:28.00 | bzo | WisTilt2: yours, it's weird that it's testing so much better than before |
| 05:28.02 | arrrghhh | for android in general? |
| 05:28.07 | bzo | ril |
| 05:28.11 | arrrghhh | ah |
| 05:28.14 | arrrghhh | damn ril... |
| 05:28.23 | bzo | WisTilt2: well your panel code, in the jb tree |
| 05:28.38 | bzo | but it could be related to a gpio fix I just did |
| 05:28.58 | arrrghhh | gpio fix? do tell |
| 05:29.14 | bzo | eh, the thing I was ranting about the other day |
| 05:29.34 | WisTilt2 | bzo: i enabled the gpios i originally had in panel collapse and made no diff on power drain. i noticed one other vreg gp6 im not shutting down, you know what that is? |
| 05:29.39 | bzo | about how the keypad driver was misconfigured to steal a camera and BT pin |
| 05:29.50 | arrrghhh | right |
| 05:29.54 | arrrghhh | i saw it quoted |
| 05:30.22 | bzo | WisTilt2: no, [acl] would probably know more since he looked inside the win dll |
| 05:30.54 | WisTilt2 | bzo: jb got the phone i sent him so he's probably going to be knocking out some fixes now that he can test:) |
| 05:31.37 | bzo | I heard, we've been conversing quite often |
| 05:31.47 | bzo | I think he has a lot to do on the camera still though |
| 05:32.02 | bzo | he's taken on trying to get all the devices working |
| 05:32.20 | WisTilt2 | nice |
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| 05:33.02 | WisTilt2 | so keypad driver was hooked to camera and bt? i'd think there'd be some power used there for no good reason. |
| 05:33.59 | arrrghhh | bwhahahaha just successfully deposited my first check with mah phone :D |
| 05:33.59 | bzo | he's actually progressed quite quickly. I think the camera is working on all but blackstone now |
| 05:34.12 | bzo | thought that one is going to be challenging |
| 05:34.26 | arrrghhh | yea sounds like it uses a different sensor? |
| 05:34.43 | bzo | yeah, one that is not supported by the camera lib... |
| 05:34.56 | arrrghhh | bummer. |
| 05:35.09 | bzo | WisTilt2: yeah, the keypad driver was copied from the topaz which is where the error originated |
| 05:35.34 | bzo | it uses a couple for column detection for a matrix |
| 05:35.40 | F22 | i was wondering about those gpio's in the keypad driver...i just chalked it up to something i didn't fully understand. |
| 05:35.44 | bzo | so it's not that picky about what is used |
| 05:35.59 | bzo | but obviously if something else wants to use it, it gets screwed up |
| 05:36.36 | bzo | it could be that it was somehow waking up/down the camera and/or BT, causing a drain |
| 05:38.19 | WisTilt2 | that reminds me... i found something in the PLL's i wondered about. is it normal to have one of those at a value of -1? i think it was PLL2, i'd have to reboot and look again at logs during boot. |
| 05:39.15 | bzo | 3 of 4 are used, so maybe the last one would say that? |
| 05:39.59 | WisTilt2 | it said 5 were available and it was either 1 or 2. ill reboot and get the exact one. |
| 05:40.46 | bzo | right it is 5, TCX0 and PLL0-3 |
| 05:42.03 | bzo | so WisTilt2, can your phone actually stand by for like 4 days now? |
| 05:42.08 | WisTilt2 | btw, battery drain with very little use has been 1% or less per hour for the past 2 days. |
| 05:42.50 | WisTilt2 | yes, ive left it off charger for over 3days with no use and still had around 20% or so. |
| 05:43.13 | bzo | does it last that long in winmo? |
| 05:44.11 | WisTilt2 | been awhile since ive run winmo but before i think a few days is about all i ever got before needing to charge. |
| 05:44.27 | WisTilt2 | thats with no use pretty much also |
| 05:44.53 | bzo | 2 days is about the longest the battery lasts in winmo for me |
| 05:45.10 | bzo | so I wonder if I'm getting close to the draw possible for a cdma rhod? |
| 05:45.11 | WisTilt2 | your 45hrs works out to 2% or so thats not bad at all. |
| 05:46.54 | bzo | but then again I have email sync enabled in winmo, so maybe it would go another day without syncing |
| 05:47.37 | arrrghhh | did you have it disabled in android? |
| 05:47.58 | arrrghhh | last test i ran with that newest test kernel that WisTilt2 gave me i was getting about 2%/hr with sync enabled. |
| 05:48.14 | WisTilt2 | ok the pll -1 is ok. i looked closer and its one of the freqs that aren't being used. |
| 05:48.18 | arrrghhh | although those lower battery values don't seem too accurate. phone just died on me from 20%. |
| 05:48.27 | bzo | sync is enabled, but not anything frequent like email |
| 05:48.47 | bzo | or I should say background data is enabled, by sync is not |
| 05:48.49 | WisTilt2 | battery % is way off until it gets below 90% from what im seeing. after that its pretty accurate. |
| 05:49.39 | WisTilt2 | bzo: same here, sync off and background data on, no email checking, and clocksync every 30mins is all i have going. |
| 05:50.21 | bzo | well, hopefully, we can get the cdma rhod a little better, but it's at a very usable point now |
| 05:50.21 | WisTilt2 | arrrghhh was that the final test kernel you're talking about or the last one F22 posted? |
| 05:51.05 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, your final test kernel, with the panel changes. |
| 05:51.13 | arrrghhh | well the final one i posted. not that one you slapped together the other day :P |
| 05:51.25 | WisTilt2 | ok, that one has the gpios shutting off also |
| 05:52.01 | WisTilt2 | 2% is very good with sync enabled i think. |
| 05:53.10 | bzo | so is the kernel with the vreg and gpio off working ok now? |
| 05:53.20 | WisTilt2 | so i guess gitorious finally fixed itself and acl emailed me today saying he finally was able to get my kbd backlight pushed. now if autobuild can get back online. |
| 05:53.53 | bzo | Glemsom was back on today, sounds like he may have it back up within the next week or two |
| 05:54.17 | WisTilt2 | well, before the gpios were killing the 400-500 but arrrghhh's isnt now so looks like they may be ok with the vregs off also. |
| 05:56.06 | F22 | i'm hoping the autobuild comes back up before i hit the size limit for a single post over at xda... ;) |
| 05:56.13 | WisTilt2 | what hosting service does Glemson use? |
| 05:56.19 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 05:56.33 | bzo | his personal media server at home I think |
| 05:56.38 | arrrghhh | well his web host i think is separate of the server that builds the kernels. |
| 05:56.51 | arrrghhh | yea his personal server is what builds the kernls. |
| 05:57.55 | WisTilt2 | well he's welcome to offsite it on one of our servers if he wants, especially if he's having to pay for bandwidth. |
| 05:58.31 | WisTilt2 | F22 you've done a great job of filling in from what ive heard. |
| 05:58.48 | F22 | thank you most kindly |
| 05:58.58 | WisTilt2 | do you ever sleep? |
| 05:59.29 | F22 | lol, my schedule is fluid atm.. |
| 06:00.09 | bzo | you handy with any coding? ;) |
| 06:00.50 | F22 | lol |
| 06:00.56 | F22 | i know c. |
| 06:01.19 | bzo | stinebd is looking for a hand on the gingerbread port |
| 06:01.32 | bzo | I was actually thinking about switching tracks for a while and working on some of that |
| 06:03.39 | F22 | i'd certainly consider putting some time into it. i'm entirely new to java however. |
| 06:04.21 | bzo | I think the parts that need work are more of the C parts like the libs |
| 06:04.32 | bzo | also, lots of tweaking of the build and configuration and such |
| 06:05.10 | bzo | in any case, java is pretty ez if you know c |
| 06:06.58 | F22 | ok |
| 06:07.43 | bzo | no pressure, I'm just trying to get the word out |
| 06:08.24 | bzo | after a drought, we're in pretty good shape on the kernel team, but stinebd is the only one on the android side |
| 06:09.43 | F22 | i have a local copy of the repo. i've been building my own system and rootfs, haven't tried out stinebd's pre-alpha gingerbread yet though. |
| 06:10.33 | bzo | me neither, I've been meaning to take a look at it |
| 06:14.32 | F22 | i almost took a look at it before christmas, but he was like "don't bother" at the time. :P |
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| 06:17.01 | bzo | brb |
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| 06:45.29 | arrrghhh | alright guys goin ridin tomorrow. need to get some sleep... take is easy. |
| 06:45.44 | WisTilt2 | nite arrrghhh have a good one |
| 06:45.49 | WisTilt2 | dont break a leg |
| 06:45.52 | arrrghhh | :D |
| 06:46.06 | arrrghhh | i'll try to stay away from those pesky trees too lol |
| 06:46.25 | WisTilt2 | bzo: dont think you were in here earlier but did you see the results i got testing pm.sleep mode 1 and 2? |
| 06:47.20 | bzo | you said battery life was the same for you? |
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| 06:47.35 | WisTilt2 | yep exactly same and arm9 still went to level 2 on both |
| 06:48.24 | bzo | odd |
| 06:49.33 | WisTilt2 | shouldnt mode 1 put arm9 down in the 20mhz (or 40 cant remember) mode? |
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| 06:49.58 | WisTilt2 | either way level 2 is being set by both modes |
| 06:50.34 | rafpigna | hello devs... sorry to disturb.. a quick question |
| 06:50.40 | rafpigna | what means when kernel log on screen show "request suspend state: wakeup (0->0) continuosly and never finish the booting process? |
| 06:51.39 | WisTilt2 | what build are you running? |
| 06:51.54 | bzo | not sure exactly what each sleep mode is supposed to do |
| 06:52.11 | rafpigna | I'm trying to port Oxygen Ginger on hd2 |
| 06:52.14 | bzo | but it seemed like in mode 2, the a11 was still up |
| 06:53.00 | bzo | the a9 runs off pll0, and I dunno if that can even be clocked down when the radio is on |
| 06:54.24 | WisTilt2 | yeah i think mode 1 arm11 is totally off and 2 its put in clocked way down. we dont have any log output showing arm11 state at suspend that i can see |
| 06:54.25 | bzo | in mode 1, it seems like the a11 was completely down, because for the OC fix, the pll had to be reinitialized on wake |
| 06:55.12 | WisTilt2 | all the modes are in pm.c arent they? |
| 06:55.44 | bzo | I would think so |
| 06:56.24 | WisTilt2 | im cloning git right now for a clean tree. man gitorious is slow tonight, only getting 4mbps |
| 06:57.53 | rafpigna | no clue on my error? |
| 06:58.17 | WisTilt2 | dont know anything about hd2 sorry. tp2 here |
| 06:58.27 | rafpigna | np, ty anyway |
| 06:58.38 | WisTilt2 | thought hd2 devs would jump in but probably all sleeping |
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| 07:07.11 | WisTilt2 | bzo: looks like mode1 indeed powers arm11 down and mode 2 clocks it down. guess i need to enable the debug output to see what its really doing. i ran 12hrs in mode 1 and 12 in mode 2 with identical drain. |
| 07:08.08 | WisTilt2 | we have no log output unless debug mask enabled as it is |
| 07:09.07 | bzo | yeah, your result seems odd |
| 07:09.50 | bzo | the diff between 0 and 1 seems very subtle to me |
| 07:10.06 | WisTilt2 | id say its my unique phone but this is a new one. old one did the same though. |
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| 07:11.19 | MassStash | quick Q, do i change 83 to 18 in the msm-gpio-keys.c to change action of power to power button? |
| 07:11.26 | MassStash | not sure that makes sense.... |
| 07:11.54 | WisTilt2 | bzo: well im hitting the sack. probably wont be on again until sunday night so catch you then. nite |
| 07:12.08 | bzo | gn |
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| 07:12.48 | MassStash | wrong place to ask? i asked in nand thread... waitin on response |
| 07:14.59 | bzo | reasonable place to ask, need to find someone who knows what you are talking about |
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| 07:16.20 | MassStash | its to try n switch home and power |
| 07:16.23 | MassStash | on rhodium |
| 07:17.38 | bzo | that's already fixed in the regular non-nand tree, find the commit and apply it |
| 07:17.58 | MassStash | to nand? |
| 07:18.12 | Cotulla | hey |
| 07:18.20 | bzo | yes |
| 07:18.23 | MassStash | im trying to get power button to home and end turn off screen |
| 07:18.30 | bzo | hey |
| 07:18.43 | bzo | sounds like userland config to me |
| 07:18.56 | MassStash | nand screen init is working tho, i'm enthrawld |
| 07:19.09 | MassStash | for me? |
| 07:19.33 | MassStash | nate said edit the msm-gpio-keys.c and rootfs, did rootfs already |
| 07:20.51 | bzo | well, the kernel should reflect the real purpose of the keys, and the rootfs can remap them |
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| 07:37.04 | rafpigna | Cotulla can I ask a question about hd2? what means when log on screen during init/boot show "request suspend state: wakeup (0->0) continuosly and never finish the booting process? |
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| 07:42.41 | Rajko | you done effed up son |
| 07:43.48 | XirXes | speaking of nand, whats stopping us from installing entire roms to it atm? |
| 07:44.08 | Rajko | what phone |
| 07:44.17 | XirXes | msm. |
| 07:44.28 | XirXes | the question is more for bzo |
| 07:44.35 | XirXes | msm rhodium |
| 07:45.03 | XirXes | right now the nand builds are just the kernel. everything else is on sd |
| 07:45.22 | XirXes | as far as i understand |
| 07:45.55 | Cotulla | bad blocks stops u |
| 07:46.33 | XirXes | so curruption or are we not even able to format it proper yet? |
| 07:47.44 | Cotulla | no, u need use special filesystems, like YAFFS2, JFFS, or use translation layers for regular filesystems |
| 07:51.59 | XirXes | ah i see (kindof). isn't that a requirement of all eeprom based roms, not just the msm devices. if im not mistaken doesnt the hd2s android roms use yaffs2? |
| 07:52.42 | Cotulla | hd2 roms yes using yaffs2 |
| 07:52.58 | Cotulla | problem that NAND flash have bad blocks |
| 07:53.08 | Cotulla | and u can't use same location too many times |
| 07:53.12 | Rajko | theyre msm 7xxx arent they |
| 07:53.24 | XirXes | yeah |
| 07:53.25 | Cotulla | because each block have limited number of erase |
| 07:53.25 | Rajko | should be no problem same as here |
| 07:53.47 | Rajko | just use yaffs and you will be fine, however i think you guys just use tinboot and thus no mtd management etc |
| 07:53.48 | Cotulla | so u need erase different blocks, so special filesystems or translation layers are ysed |
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| 07:55.37 | XirXes | would it be possible (or necesary) to port MAGLDR to the msm7xxx or is there some limitation that would prevent it |
| 07:56.04 | XirXes | cause tinboot should be able to do the job afaik |
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| 07:56.58 | Rajko | you should use lk |
| 07:57.00 | Rajko | it worsk good |
| 07:57.58 | Cotulla | MAGLDR is closed source, developed by DFT team. this is the problem :) |
| 07:58.22 | XirXes | ah i see. i wasnt sure if magldr was open or not |
| 07:59.22 | Cotulla | we are looking into ability to port it to old msm7k devices and increase whole android experience on this devices |
| 07:59.45 | XirXes | it would deffinatly be appreciated |
| 08:00.34 | XirXes | why closed source tho? to prevent people peaking and seeing what happens when you beat tetris? :) |
| 08:00.44 | Rajko | dark govt secrets |
| 08:00.58 | Cotulla | XirXes, why not? |
| 08:01.03 | Cotulla | we have reasons |
| 08:01.24 | XirXes | im not judging |
| 08:01.35 | XirXes | just curious 3rd party |
| 08:01.40 | Cotulla | :) |
| 08:01.46 | XirXes | :) |
| 08:01.59 | Cotulla | anyway in ur case (old msm7k devices) u must be very careful |
| 08:02.10 | Cotulla | one wrong access and u really got brick |
| 08:02.44 | XirXes | eh, thats why i pay for insurance on my phone |
| 08:02.46 | Cotulla | anyway, u can port LK ,yes |
| 08:03.26 | Six6Sicks | is the recovery option we currently have a safe option? |
| 08:04.49 | XirXes | well thanks for answering guys. and the idea of magldr on my rhod is definitly an exciting one |
| 08:05.00 | Cotulla | yeah, tetris rulezz |
| 08:05.01 | Cotulla | :D |
| 08:05.07 | XirXes | lol |
| 08:05.17 | Cotulla | my current high score is 48k |
| 08:05.35 | Cotulla | but I am adding Arkanoid also ^^ |
| 08:06.00 | XirXes | so you dont even know whats past 111111 8-0 |
| 08:06.07 | Cotulla | yeah... |
| 08:07.10 | Six6Sicks | Cotulla can you go in chat real quick so I don't feel like a douche asking you questions in here? |
| 08:07.12 | XirXes | has anyone done it yet? |
| 08:07.17 | MassStash | anyone see my keymap Q earlier? |
| 08:07.23 | Cotulla | Six6Sicks, oh, u ask me? |
| 08:07.38 | MassStash | trying to get power buton to be home, editing msm-gpio-keys.c |
| 08:07.52 | Cotulla | if u about recovery - yeah it's rather safe |
| 08:08.08 | Cotulla | but it depended from recovery developer ofcourse :) |
| 08:08.44 | Six6Sicks | Ok. thanks. I figured you have the knowledge of the good and bad effects on the HD2 |
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| 08:08.50 | Cotulla | yeah :( |
| 08:08.56 | Six6Sicks | How many bricks? |
| 08:09.03 | Cotulla | we almost bricked one when we did HSPL |
| 08:10.29 | Six6Sicks | keep doing what you do man, you and your team are great. I've tried every rom and I always go back to yours. Most stable by far. |
| 08:11.03 | MassStash | bad question>? haha |
| 08:13.06 | Atom_wk | Cotulla: brick is not selling? :D |
| 08:13.42 | Cotulla | I can sell it about 3000$ with signature "bricked by Cotulla". u wanna? |
| 08:13.44 | Cotulla | :D |
| 08:14.15 | XirXes | if i were to brick my phone id dunk it in water then call t-mobile |
| 08:14.24 | Cotulla | heh |
| 08:14.36 | Atom_wk | Cotulla: I'm serious |
| 08:14.50 | Cotulla | it's joke, actually we able to restore it. we hackerzzz or shit at the end?! |
| 08:14.51 | XirXes | hopefully the water damage would stop them from checking whats on the rom and cover me |
| 08:14.54 | Cotulla | :P |
| 08:15.32 | Atom_wk | Cotulla: I need a loop volume buttons |
| 08:15.37 | Cotulla | hehe |
| 08:16.30 | Atom_wk | Cotulla: You really hackerzzz :D |
| 08:17.49 | Atom_wk | We seek (C) Diamond Arm |
| 08:18.05 | MassStash | nvm got the tardation figured out |
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| 12:02.37 | *** topic/#htc-linux is Welcome to the HTC Linux project | Community portal & WiKi http://htc-linux.org | For IRC logs, HaRET & kernel mailing lists etc. see http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Contact | The htc-linux.org project is not affiliated with the HTC Corporation | This channel is for development purposes - Join #htc-linux-chat for offtopic |
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| 13:10.41 | gauner1986 | hi |
| 13:12.46 | [fb] | hi |
| 13:13.51 | mdeejay | hi |
| 13:13.55 | Cotulla | hi |
| 13:14.11 | [fb] | Hello :P |
| 13:19.55 | DomZ | hi |
| 13:20.19 | MN_ | lol |
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| 13:34.39 | nyl | dcordes? |
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| 13:44.54 | manusfreedom | hi |
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| 13:47.11 | Curious_ | NetRipper : handhelds.org is down? |
| 13:47.48 | NetRipper | Curious_, no idea.. seems to be over time yea ;) |
| 13:47.57 | Cotulla | hey NetRipper |
| 13:47.58 | Cotulla | how are u? |
| 13:47.59 | Curious_ | i need the tutorial :D |
| 13:48.02 | NetRipper | hi cotulla |
| 13:48.04 | NetRipper | im good thx :) |
| 13:48.04 | Curious_ | for haret |
| 13:48.08 | Cotulla | long time no see |
| 13:48.16 | NetRipper | saw you did an awesome job with android on hd2 |
| 13:48.22 | NetRipper | got it running as well, pretty smooth |
| 13:48.22 | Cotulla | hehe :) |
| 13:48.22 | NetRipper | :) |
| 13:48.29 | Cotulla | we porting meego now |
| 13:48.29 | Cotulla | :P |
| 13:48.38 | NetRipper | ah nice :) |
| 13:48.40 | Curious_ | fix MAGLDR first::D |
| 13:48.48 | NetRipper | Curious_, some haret documentatino is on htc-linux.org |
| 13:48.53 | Curious_ | hmm |
| 13:48.53 | Curious_ | ok |
| 13:48.59 | Cotulla | yeah ball in Arkanoid falls down often |
| 13:49.02 | Cotulla | will fix it |
| 13:49.04 | Cotulla | :P |
| 13:49.05 | Curious_ | :D |
| 13:49.13 | Curious_ | at least fix g-sensor issue |
| 13:49.15 | Curious_ | for android |
| 13:49.26 | Curious_ | no one seems to be able to do it |
| 13:49.29 | NetRipper | what g-sensor issue? |
| 13:49.38 | Curious_ | g-sensor freeze i2c bug |
| 13:49.41 | NetRipper | screen rotation seems to work fine and teeter too |
| 13:49.46 | Cotulla | there msm_i2c not compatible with htc microp |
| 13:49.47 | Curious_ | what we are using now is a hack |
| 13:49.55 | NetRipper | ah |
| 13:49.57 | Cotulla | so sometimes bus-busy-reset |
| 13:50.00 | Curious_ | NetRipper, if you shake your device fast enough |
| 13:50.04 | Curious_ | resets bus |
| 13:50.27 | Curious_ | i2c says "Cotulla, Fix Me!" |
| 13:50.29 | Curious_ | anyways |
| 13:50.34 | NetRipper | Curious_, http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=HaRET |
| 13:50.45 | NetRipper | http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=HaRET_Documentation |
| 13:51.02 | Curious_ | yeah was checking out |
| 13:52.15 | stAv | is gone, autoaway/10m [l/on p/on] |
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| 14:11.51 | Curious_ | NetRipper, do you have haretconsole for windows? |
| 14:11.55 | Curious_ | i couldn'T find it.. |
| 14:12.12 | NetRipper | http://netripper.com/raphael/HaretconsolePackageForWin.zip |
| 14:12.23 | Curious_ | thnx |
| 14:12.26 | NetRipper | you may have to update haretconsole itself |
| 14:12.28 | NetRipper | but it should work |
| 14:13.20 | Curious_ | k |
| 14:22.41 | Cotulla | ~seen dcordes |
| 14:22.46 | apt | dcordes is currently on #htc-linux #oe #openmoko-cdevel, last said: 'stroughtonsmith: might be interesting for meego as well'. |
| 14:22.55 | Cotulla | dcordes ping |
| 14:23.47 | Cotulla | sudo getup dcordes -Xfe -p 1000 -tmp dcordes.wakeup.tmp -v now |
| 14:24.13 | Curious_ | permission denied |
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| 14:25.32 | Cotulla | xD |
| 14:33.30 | nyl | ~seen Markinus |
| 14:33.33 | apt | markinus is currently on #htc-linux, last said: 'hi'. |
| 14:33.39 | nyl | o_O |
| 14:33.47 | nyl | and no bye |
| 14:33.48 | nyl | :( |
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| 14:47.12 | Curious_ | NetRipper is it normal to have haretconsole connection hang while calling? |
| 14:47.16 | Curious_ | phone clal* |
| 14:47.17 | Curious_ | call* |
| 14:47.56 | Curious_ | and is there any gpio bigger than 180 ? |
| 14:48.00 | Curious_ | it shows 4xx |
| 14:48.08 | NetRipper | umm can't recall such a scenario but unless somehow the connectino is closed because of that |
| 14:48.14 | NetRipper | it shouldn't hang |
| 14:48.17 | Curious_ | hmm |
| 14:48.20 | Curious_ | how about 4xx gpios |
| 14:48.26 | NetRipper | well the 'bits' are counted from the base address |
| 14:48.27 | Curious_ | is it normal? |
| 14:48.46 | Curious_ | hmm, so it isn't leo compatible |
| 14:48.51 | NetRipper | so if GPIO bank 1 is at 0x1000 and GPIO bank 2 is at 0x4000 then there'll be a lot of bits offset :) |
| 14:48.53 | Curious_ | or i should do something? |
| 14:49.00 | Curious_ | oh |
| 14:49.01 | NetRipper | if you update the haret console to the latest |
| 14:49.09 | Curious_ | :/ |
| 14:49.11 | NetRipper | it whould give you the in1/out1 etc |
| 14:49.11 | Curious_ | where to find.. |
| 14:49.21 | NetRipper | http://netripper.com/leo/ |
| 14:49.28 | NetRipper | haretconsole packages are there too |
| 14:49.34 | Curious_ | k thnx |
| 14:49.36 | NetRipper | overwrite the right files in your haretforwin package |
| 14:49.37 | Curious_ | so linux ones |
| 14:49.40 | Curious_ | ah |
| 14:49.43 | Curious_ | k |
| 14:49.59 | Curious_ | winmo one is just run via phyton ? |
| 14:50.27 | NetRipper | well haret winmo doesn't use python at all... the python is just a tool to have a nicer console besides telnetting |
| 14:50.33 | NetRipper | and python is cross platform |
| 14:50.36 | Curious_ | yeah |
| 14:50.52 | Curious_ | i should say windows |
| 14:50.53 | Curious_ | :D |
| 14:51.29 | gauner1986 | ah netripper |
| 14:51.31 | gauner1986 | you here? |
| 14:51.32 | gauner1986 | :) |
| 14:51.46 | NetRipper | yep the haret for win package is just python + haretconsole + a batchfile to make it easy |
| 14:51.53 | NetRipper | gauner1986, nope :P |
| 14:52.08 | Curious_ | strange i always get a hang in the console while calling |
| 14:52.08 | Curious_ | damn.. |
| 14:52.22 | Curious_ | how can i trigger proximity sensor in other way |
| 14:52.31 | gauner1986 | :P |
| 14:52.43 | NetRipper | put your finger in front of the proximity sensor |
| 14:53.01 | NetRipper | not really sure how the proximity sensor works but i think it's the dot next to the light sensor |
| 14:53.02 | Curious_ | it doesn't work when there is no call in winmo :D |
| 14:53.09 | NetRipper | oh that sucks :P |
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| 14:53.13 | Curious_ | yeah but not enabled when there isn't a call |
| 14:53.15 | Curious_ | yah |
| 14:53.34 | Curious_ | would it make any difference in linux,;? |
| 14:53.54 | Curious_ | maybe phython is buggy:D |
| 14:54.03 | Rajko | theres no reason to have that interrupt enabled unless in a call |
| 14:54.16 | Curious_ | yes |
| 14:54.35 | Curious_ | but interrupt isn't enabled but the sensor is enabled when there is NO CALL in android |
| 14:54.38 | Curious_ | fucked up thing |
| 14:54.49 | Curious_ | two buts:D |
| 14:56.30 | NetRipper | what do you do in haret while calling? |
| 14:56.44 | NetRipper | does haretconsole hang, or haret completely, or even the whole device? |
| 14:56.55 | Curious_ | watch GPIOS |
| 14:56.59 | Curious_ | console |
| 14:57.04 | Curious_ | obly |
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| 14:57.05 | Curious_ | only* |
| 14:58.05 | Curious_ | it doesn't connect after a restart haret and haretconsole sometimes |
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| 14:58.26 | NetRipper | you have to click the listen button again |
| 14:58.26 | NetRipper | in haret |
| 14:58.29 | Curious_ | yeah |
| 14:58.32 | Curious_ | clicking.. |
| 14:58.38 | DomZ | can someone can says to Cotulla that we don't care about arkanoid :p |
| 14:58.39 | Curious_ | but hangs the connection |
| 14:58.52 | Curious_ | DomZ, go in his home and beat him to death |
| 14:58.59 | DomZ | lol |
| 14:59.00 | NetRipper | wow that's pretty harsch |
| 14:59.16 | DomZ | hey are you silly he's russian ! |
| 14:59.18 | Curious_ | but that would make a lesson wouldn't it:D |
| 14:59.27 | Curious_ | domz so? |
| 14:59.35 | Curious_ | beat him to death :D |
| 14:59.49 | DomZ | :d |
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| 15:02.07 | Starfury^ | ahhhh this is where you all hang out |
| 15:03.50 | nyl | ~seen dcordes |
| 15:03.56 | apt | dcordes is currently on #htc-linux #oe #openmoko-cdevel, last said: 'stroughtonsmith: might be interesting for meego as well'. |
| 15:04.04 | nyl | ~seen dcordes_ |
| 15:04.04 | apt | dcordes_ <~dcordes@unaffiliated/dcordes> was last seen on IRC in channel #htc-linux, 94d 15h 43m 56s ago, saying: 'did anybody successfully compile evo kern today ?'. |
| 15:05.36 | Curious_ | Starfury^ we were waiting for you |
| 15:05.45 | Curious_ | finally you made it! |
| 15:05.45 | Curious_ | :D |
| 15:06.02 | Curious_ | NetRipper it seems like wirq works fine with calling |
| 15:07.31 | Starfury^ | haha |
| 15:07.34 | Starfury^ | cheeky shite :) |
| 15:08.11 | NetRipper | Curious_, weird that watch gpio's hangs |
| 15:08.31 | Curious_ | netripper how can i enable an interrupt with console? |
| 15:09.01 | NetRipper | i dont know if that feature is in haret |
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| 15:10.07 | Curious_ | ah |
| 15:10.07 | NetRipper | you'd have to configure the interrupt as well |
| 15:10.13 | NetRipper | it's device/driver specific |
| 15:10.24 | Curious_ | so need to find the address and etc. |
| 15:10.27 | Curious_ | k then |
| 15:10.39 | NetRipper | yep assuming it's already configured correctly, you could set the right bit to 1 |
| 15:10.47 | NetRipper | somewhere in the 0xc0000000 area |
| 15:10.50 | Starfury^ | anyone installed this magldr that Cotulla did? |
| 15:11.04 | NetRipper | the wiki should explain that area |
| 15:11.09 | Curious_ | k |
| 15:11.12 | Curious_ | Starfury^everyone? |
| 15:11.46 | Starfury^ | could you answer me a question that i havent found the answer for yet then :) |
| 15:12.29 | Starfury^ | if i just install magldr (i got hspl2.08 and 2.15.50 radio and nrgz28 rom) will the phone continue to boot into winmo |
| 15:13.06 | Curious_ | you can reflash winmo |
| 15:13.14 | Curious_ | and go to #htc-linux-chat |
| 15:13.22 | Curious_ | there are tons of people that can answer your questions |
| 15:13.29 | Curious_ | you will be happy there |
| 15:13.35 | Starfury^ | ah sorry, didnt read the topic |
| 15:13.47 | Starfury^ | i doubt i will be happy there |
| 15:13.53 | Curious_ | go and see |
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| 15:30.12 | kkk | hi |
| 15:30.51 | smurf | I just tried booting the htc-linux/android1.6 on hd touch |
| 15:31.11 | smurf | but I'm getting "error reading file. expected 4096 got 0" |
| 15:31.24 | smurf | when launching the haret.exe |
| 15:31.49 | RaiderX | Cotulla :) |
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| 15:34.36 | Alex[sp3dev] | damn lk. looks like it does not switch threads on armv6. gotta add printfs everywhere.. love that http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/8530/img2638c.jpg |
| 15:35.20 | phh | perhaps it's cooperative multitasking |
| 15:35.28 | Alex[sp3dev] | no, it is just broken |
| 15:35.59 | Alex[sp3dev] | i.e., the bootstrap2 thread which is supposed to init the board never starts. i had to inline the call. |
| 15:36.39 | Alex[sp3dev] | maybe it's because i'm disabling interrupts in haret and they are not properly enabled in lk |
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| 15:36.57 | Alex[sp3dev] | although the same happens when booting off nand |
| 15:38.40 | smurf | help? :( |
| 15:39.26 | Curious_ | smurf, have you had any success |
| 15:39.40 | Cotulla | hey Alex |
| 15:39.47 | Alex[sp3dev] | hey Cotulla |
| 15:39.53 | RaiderX | hi :) |
| 15:40.58 | Cotulla | hi\ |
| 15:41.09 | RaiderX | my linux install has died :( |
| 15:41.24 | Cotulla | my meego also died with wp7 boot :D |
| 15:41.29 | RaiderX | lol |
| 15:41.40 | RaiderX | any timeframe on wp7 release? |
| 15:41.47 | Cotulla | it's linux channel have a god |
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| 15:41.54 | Cotulla | *afraid a god |
| 15:42.02 | Cotulla | :P |
| 15:42.07 | Alex[sp3dev] | let everyone have a personal god |
| 15:42.07 | RaiderX | or is it, itll be released when its dome |
| 15:42.16 | Cotulla | ktulxu the best |
| 15:42.22 | Alex[sp3dev] | fhtagn |
| 15:42.45 | RaiderX | my god is the almighty penguin! |
| 15:43.12 | Cotulla | ffuu, my god is KernelStart |
| 15:43.18 | RaiderX | :) |
| 15:43.31 | Alex[sp3dev] | nk.exe detected |
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| 15:44.42 | Cotulla | right |
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| 15:47.30 | Curious_ | me hit cotulla by a lightning struck |
| 15:47.34 | Curious_ | hit cotulla by a lightning struck |
| 15:47.36 | Curious_ | f*:D |
| 15:48.10 | Cotulla | two coredlls fall down cockpoo to dirty dust of code |
| 15:49.02 | Curious_ | sends modified version of sasser for his wp7 |
| 15:49.16 | Curious_ | smells some well cooked brick |
| 15:50.42 | fakker | gays |
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| 15:50.50 | Alex[sp3dev] | said the main gay |
| 15:50.53 | fakker | yes |
| 15:50.56 | dan1j3l | hi |
| 15:50.57 | fakker | i know from experience |
| 15:51.01 | RaiderX | hi |
| 15:51.05 | mdeejay | :D |
| 15:51.06 | gauner1986 | hey dan |
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| 15:54.31 | Curious_ | fakker you have a brother or a sis? |
| 15:54.43 | fakker | yeah |
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| 15:55.20 | fakker | it's obvious i am the youngest child, right? |
| 15:55.37 | Starfury^ | it is>? |
| 15:55.43 | fakker | dunno |
| 15:55.49 | fakker | it's a question |
| 15:55.52 | Starfury^ | shouldnt this convo be in htc-linux-chat ? |
| 15:55.53 | Starfury^ | :) |
| 15:56.07 | fakker | correct, and im going to kill |
| 15:56.10 | Starfury^ | lol |
| 15:56.11 | fakker | bb |
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| 16:11.06 | smurf | is there a way to boot htc linux on samsung wave gts8500 ? |
| 16:11.26 | Rajko | samsung isnt htc |
| 16:11.30 | smurf | yeah I know |
| 16:11.49 | smurf | I meant use similar method to load android on bade |
| 16:11.50 | Alex[sp3dev] | depends on whether you can force it to execute your code in supervisor mode. |
| 16:11.51 | smurf | bada* |
| 16:12.23 | smurf | so I assume bada doesn't make it easy ? |
| 16:12.45 | Alex[sp3dev] | i would assume so |
| 16:13.11 | Alex[sp3dev] | and it looks like its bootloader may contain less security holes than htc's |
| 16:13.46 | Cotulla | +1 reason why Samsung sucks |
| 16:13.48 | Cotulla | :P |
| 16:14.01 | Alex[sp3dev] | yeah security holes rule |
| 16:14.15 | RaiderX | i dont like bada, it looks like every other samsung phone |
| 16:19.02 | smurf | I prefer android too, so much i'll probably end up selling this wave thingy |
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| 16:20.00 | MN_ | Hi |
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| 16:24.04 | Alex[sp3dev] | aite, context switching seems to be working now. guess i need to figure out why it hangs now.. |
| 16:25.08 | Cotulla | hehe |
| 16:25.29 | Cotulla | and this shit called bootloader... bootloader must be single threaded without interrupts |
| 16:27.23 | Alex[sp3dev] | i've been telling for ages that qcom and google sometimes write exceptionally bad code |
| 16:29.25 | Cotulla | yeah |
| 16:29.33 | Cotulla | codeaurora child |
| 16:29.51 | Cotulla | u wanted to put linux bootloader, isn't it? |
| 16:30.14 | Alex[sp3dev] | i thought that is not 'true' and you would not respect me if i did |
| 16:30.34 | Cotulla | u have SPL as real bootloader already, so u can do it :P |
| 16:30.48 | Cotulla | I plans to make CE bootloader anyway |
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| 16:33.02 | Alex[sp3dev] | but really.. wtf are threads doing there.. it could be converted to a pure state machine if we replace it with cooperative multitasking |
| 16:37.13 | Cotulla | it's u think so |
| 16:37.14 | Cotulla | :) |
| 16:37.26 | Cotulla | but ofcourse it can work |
| 16:37.33 | Cotulla | at least MAGLDR works |
| 16:37.40 | Cotulla | but I can't implement BT normally there |
| 16:37.49 | Alex[sp3dev] | wtf do you need it |
| 16:38.01 | Cotulla | remote TTY or update via air |
| 16:38.06 | Alex[sp3dev] | a bootloader must load kernel and format partitions. why do you want it to support all the hardware? |
| 16:38.20 | Cotulla | because it's very helpfull |
| 16:38.50 | Cotulla | for example run on QDSP6 monitor which sends OS output via BT on ur computer directly |
| 16:38.55 | Alex[sp3dev] | magldr will turn into a new OS. just like linux which was originally planned to be a terminal emulator |
| 16:39.17 | Cotulla | without wires and other shit |
| 16:41.15 | MN_ | like ota update correct |
| 16:41.55 | Cotulla | I think I will port TNKernel RTOS to it. and will make switchable. |
| 16:42.32 | Alex[sp3dev] | qnx neutrino ;) |
| 16:42.45 | Cotulla | qnx I think too big? |
| 16:43.00 | Alex[sp3dev] | yes but it can run mplayer ;) |
| 16:43.02 | Cotulla | better L4Ka::Pistachio ^^ |
| 16:43.40 | Cotulla | and I think to port RTEMS to QDSP6 |
| 16:44.06 | Cotulla | and port then PSX emulator for fun and look how awful it will work |
| 16:44.24 | Cotulla | :D |
| 16:46.18 | Rajko | Cotulla, this is why your loader takes like 5 seconds to start |
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| 16:50.25 | Alex[sp3dev] | no, because it waits for amss ;) |
| 16:52.08 | Cotulla | right |
| 16:52.11 | Rajko | well why would it need amss |
| 16:52.13 | Rajko | its a bootloader |
| 16:52.21 | Rajko | load pages from nand and go |
| 16:52.26 | Alex[sp3dev] | then you would need to add the delay to linux kernel |
| 16:52.37 | Cotulla | it's magic bootloader... not bootloader |
| 16:52.42 | Cotulla | ;) |
| 16:52.51 | MN_ | :) |
| 16:53.05 | Rajko | why do you need amss in kernel |
| 16:53.07 | Rajko | set clocks and go |
| 16:53.14 | Alex[sp3dev] | yeah.. and Cotulla knows someone at HTC is gotta get fucked (and in turn fuck everyone here) if he releases the magic code |
| 16:54.24 | Cotulla | yeah I don't want to allow ppl to change imeis and do other bad things |
| 16:55.04 | Rajko | post rmnet enabler |
| 16:55.09 | Alex[sp3dev] | because msm is stupid and relies on rpc to do everything |
| 16:55.14 | Cotulla | why not? it's long story |
| 16:57.00 | Cotulla | Alex, u good in X11? |
| 16:57.25 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: not really. i have written some qt and gtk apps in the past, but have not touched the X11 itself |
| 16:57.36 | Alex[sp3dev] | what are you doing? writing opengl wrappers? |
| 16:57.38 | Curious_ | NetRipper, how to ignore some GPIOs and IRQs at the same time |
| 16:57.47 | Cotulla | porting X11 |
| 16:57.49 | Cotulla | driver |
| 16:57.51 | Cotulla | for meego |
| 16:58.01 | Alex[sp3dev] | xf86-video-msm? |
| 16:58.01 | Cotulla | yeah |
| 16:58.14 | Cotulla | compiling directly on leo with meego :D |
| 16:58.19 | Alex[sp3dev] | isn't it that dcordes and gnutoo have already did it for SHR? |
| 16:58.23 | Alex[sp3dev] | *done |
| 16:58.35 | Cotulla | dunno... I am doing it myself now |
| 16:58.43 | Cotulla | I wanna make universal kernel for meego / android |
| 16:59.29 | Alex[sp3dev] | that is a good idea. i wonder how much android actually needs to run |
| 17:00.10 | Cotulla | hm no.. I will port X11 driver near Android msm_fb |
| 17:00.12 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: did i tell you X11 on VGA on pxa272 is ffff*** slow? |
| 17:00.20 | Cotulla | no yet |
| 17:00.24 | Alex[sp3dev] | now i did |
| 17:00.36 | Cotulla | what about iWMMX optimizations? |
| 17:00.52 | Cotulla | are u use fbdev? |
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| 17:01.33 | Alex[sp3dev] | i have not tried. i think it's just the os itself was slow because of an old sd card. need to look into it. yeah, using fbdev.. i wonder if it is possible to squeeze android into 64mb nor |
| 17:01.53 | Cotulla | 720? |
| 17:01.54 | Cotulla | ^^ |
| 17:01.57 | Alex[sp3dev] | yep |
| 17:02.17 | Cotulla | saw such for about 2500 rubs |
| 17:02.33 | Cotulla | there each MB is expensive |
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| 17:02.43 | Cotulla | u fight for every 512 kbytes |
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| 17:03.04 | Alex[sp3dev] | i got almost everything working (even camera which used a gpio bitbang interface) except reading battery status (will look into it) and wifi (needs to be converted to a pcmcia driver from a memmaped one) |
| 17:03.31 | Cotulla | there 2760? ^^ |
| 17:03.40 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: i would never buy that old pda.. my friend gave it to me for free and i thought "why not? it has usb, CF, rs-232 and i can run linux there" |
| 17:03.45 | Alex[sp3dev] | what is 2760? |
| 17:03.53 | Cotulla | battery |
| 17:04.06 | Alex[sp3dev] | no, ads7846 ;) |
| 17:04.09 | Cotulla | oh |
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| 17:05.34 | Alex[sp3dev] | i think i should have convinced him to give me hx4700 instead. it at least has ati ;) |
| 17:05.34 | Cotulla | ati means big fuck for u, isn't it? |
| 17:05.34 | Alex[sp3dev] | why? |
| 17:05.37 | Cotulla | or it already implemented |
| 17:06.06 | Tapip | Cotulla pls implement something usefull like autoboot of usb flasher if there is no OS on NAND and no OS on SD and other thing like autoboot of NAND android if no android on SD and NAND one exist. Two timers in no difficult to do |
| 17:06.53 | Cotulla | in linux? |
| 17:06.53 | Alex[sp3dev] | yeah |
| 17:06.53 | Alex[sp3dev] | for a long time |
| 17:06.53 | Cotulla | oh |
| 17:06.53 | Cotulla | there was company who developed whole linux for it |
| 17:06.53 | Cotulla | AFAIK |
| 17:06.53 | Alex[sp3dev] | yeah |
| 17:06.53 | Cotulla | why they did it? |
| 17:06.53 | Alex[sp3dev] | maybe they didn't have facilities to buy the pda themselves? |
| 17:07.04 | Alex[sp3dev] | i mean, to build |
| 17:07.07 | Rajko | Tapip, set up your own autoboot settings |
| 17:07.50 | Cotulla | hm |
| 17:07.51 | Cotulla | funny |
| 17:07.55 | Cotulla | they fail? |
| 17:08.12 | Tapip | Yeah but first I need new flex cable, my is broken and my volume buttions are broken |
| 17:08.19 | Alex[sp3dev] | no they did not. they have released the bootloader and firmware running qtopia 2.0 |
| 17:09.01 | Cotulla | bootloader? again with threads? |
| 17:09.30 | Alex[sp3dev] | i doubt it.. code monkeys were not allowed to write low-level code back in 2004 |
| 17:10.45 | Cotulla | so oldscholl bootloader |
| 17:11.12 | Cotulla | meego also needs a lot of resources |
| 17:11.20 | Cotulla | and not finished yet |
| 17:11.34 | Alex[sp3dev] | i think programmers are becomming very lazy |
| 17:11.39 | Alex[sp3dev] | no one cares for optimization |
| 17:11.51 | Cotulla | I fucked whole day with it and then I found that apps crashes bcz statusbar is missing and this is "known problem" |
| 17:11.55 | Cotulla | WTF :( |
| 17:12.22 | Cotulla | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpYZe4cLEjA |
| 17:12.43 | Cotulla | for u, Alex, look ur future on 720 |
| 17:12.51 | Rajko | needs more bodies on floor |
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| 17:13.08 | Cotulla | Tapip, it's bad idea |
| 17:13.14 | Tapip | why |
| 17:13.18 | Cotulla | maybe user wanna go to TTY |
| 17:13.20 | Cotulla | and etc |
| 17:13.32 | Tapip | can do it manually |
| 17:13.48 | Tapip | normal user dont need TTY |
| 17:13.54 | Tapip | i think |
| 17:13.57 | Cotulla | I assume all this stuffs are done for "experienced" users, who can read instructions and do actions like in the text |
| 17:14.17 | Rajko | theres no way to detect there's a kernel on SD because kernel on Sd can be in any folder |
| 17:15.05 | Cotulla | hm broken buttons... |
| 17:15.08 | Tapip | but magldr with standard setting is searshing kernel on root of SD |
| 17:15.56 | Cotulla | yeah |
| 17:16.07 | Cotulla | honestly I want suggest u to fix ur buttons... :) |
| 17:16.08 | Tapip | so it can be done |
| 17:16.22 | Tapip | yeah :( |
| 17:16.26 | Tapip | :p |
| 17:16.37 | Tapip | I will do it |
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| 17:20.58 | Tapip | someone have hd2 bricked for sele :D Cotulla you bricket some with magldr testing ? |
| 17:21.53 | smurf | could someone tell me which android port is most stable so far (for htc blackstone aka "hd touch") |
| 17:22.18 | Tapip | try it yourself :) |
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| 17:23.37 | Cotulla | someone? |
| 17:24.26 | Tapip | whats wrong ? |
| 17:27.36 | RaiderX | im back : |
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| 17:31.09 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: http://www.mediafire.com/?fr9esrq1dngqu81 made that video several days ago when got the touchscreen working.. more of an epic fail though.. you can notice that applets written in python and old sd card are destined to be slow.. |
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| 17:31.30 | Cotulla | old? how fast is it? |
| 17:31.51 | Alex[sp3dev] | not sure. need to compare with a sdhc card one day |
| 17:31.58 | Cotulla | I bought yesterday Transend 8GB Class6 - 7 mbytes write and 12-20 read |
| 17:32.20 | Cotulla | at least now I can have big rootfs |
| 17:32.20 | Alex[sp3dev] | it is not even HC |
| 17:33.37 | Cotulla | anybody looked TRON: Legacy ? |
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| 17:35.48 | gauner1986 | it's not out yet in germany |
| 17:35.50 | gauner1986 | :( |
| 17:35.56 | gauner1986 | want to see it in cinema |
| 17:37.09 | MN_ | im watching it tomorrow in 3d :) |
| 17:37.56 | RaiderX | tron legacy does look good :) |
| 17:38.36 | Cotulla | he grep something |
| 17:38.37 | Cotulla | in 80x\ |
| 17:38.43 | MN_ | lol |
| 17:38.49 | Cotulla | wtf |
| 17:38.49 | Alex[sp3dev] | yeah |
| 17:38.49 | Alex[sp3dev] | grep has existed for ages |
| 17:39.02 | Alex[sp3dev] | most of unix tools were written by the mid-70s |
| 17:39.12 | Cotulla | anyway FAR rules with Alt+F7 |
| 17:39.31 | Alex[sp3dev] | grep rules. anything that has regex rules |
| 17:39.56 | Cotulla | dunno I grep in meego often because there no far |
| 17:40.00 | Alex[sp3dev] | Grep was created by Ken Thompson as a standalone application adapted from the regular expression parser he had written for the ed editor (which he also created). The name grep comes from the ed editor command it simulated, g/re/p (global regular expression print). Its official date of creation is given as March 3, 1973 in the Manual for Unix Version 4 |
| 17:42.40 | MN_ | there is no device with native meego on it yet is there? |
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| 17:48.20 | Cotulla | oldschool |
| 17:48.20 | Cotulla | maybe I should add grep to MAGLDR |
| 17:48.20 | Alex[sp3dev] | lol |
| 17:48.20 | Alex[sp3dev] | no |
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| 17:52.37 | tfouto | there is no device with meego yet... meego will fail... |
| 17:52.44 | tfouto | meego is already dead. |
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| 17:53.38 | Alex[sp3dev] | troll time!!! |
| 17:54.38 | tfouto | yeah... |
| 17:55.11 | tfouto | really, meego might be a nice OS but wont much sucess |
| 17:55.18 | tfouto | *get |
| 17:55.21 | Alex[sp3dev] | like maemo |
| 17:55.23 | Alex[sp3dev] | but who cares |
| 17:55.47 | Alex[sp3dev] | it's better to have a nice and unpopular os than popular SHIT like android |
| 17:55.47 | tfouto | nokia cares |
| 17:56.16 | tfouto | what for if there will be almost no apps and games on meego |
| 17:56.35 | tfouto | Is Android really that shitty? |
| 17:56.46 | Alex[sp3dev] | you can use all existing gnu apps. including X11 apps. openoffice, gimp etc |
| 17:56.47 | Cotulla | yeah and u can compile them in meego |
| 17:56.48 | Cotulla | wtf |
| 17:56.53 | Cotulla | I builded make by hands |
| 17:56.54 | Cotulla | :D |
| 17:57.04 | Cotulla | it was first my build of make |
| 17:57.08 | Cotulla | I never did it before |
| 17:57.21 | tfouto | openoffice, gimp on meego? |
| 17:57.23 | tfouto | wtf |
| 17:57.28 | Alex[sp3dev] | why not? |
| 17:57.33 | Cotulla | yeah |
| 17:57.38 | Cotulla | so funny menus on desktop |
| 17:57.40 | Cotulla | x11 |
| 17:57.48 | tfouto | tablet ok, not on phone |
| 17:57.50 | Cotulla | but fonts are sucks after widnwos |
| 17:58.01 | tfouto | its like MS trying to port Windows 7 or 8 to tablets |
| 17:58.29 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: don't want to start trolling, but imho clear type sucks. any font smoothing sucks. and the only fonts that look good without smoothing are tahoma, verdana and terminus |
| 17:59.03 | Cotulla | yeah I agree with u |
| 17:59.08 | Cotulla | I always turn off clear type |
| 17:59.11 | Cotulla | on my 4700 |
| 17:59.12 | Cotulla | :P |
| 17:59.24 | Alex[sp3dev] | i thought you don't have 4700 anymore |
| 17:59.29 | Cotulla | yeah |
| 17:59.37 | Cotulla | but there was fonts... |
| 17:59.38 | Cotulla | to edged |
| 17:59.42 | Cotulla | how to say this |
| 18:02.01 | Cotulla | I understand |
| 18:02.01 | Cotulla | it looks like we in 80x |
| 18:02.01 | Cotulla | but we are not :( |
| 18:02.01 | Alex[sp3dev] | unfortunately |
| 18:02.01 | Cotulla | yeah |
| 18:02.01 | Alex[sp3dev] | in the 80s geeks ruled the world and not stupid managers |
| 18:02.01 | Cotulla | otherwise every one boots MAGLDR every morning before to work in MagicOffice |
| 18:02.01 | Cotulla | :D |
| 18:02.01 | Alex[sp3dev] | then everyone would know you not as a cool hacker but as the root of all evil (like Bill Gates.. but hey, he deserves it. DOS was not a revolution in computing) |
| 18:02.02 | Cotulla | heh |
| 18:02.03 | Cotulla | it was joke ofcourse |
| 18:02.05 | Cotulla | :P |
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| 18:05.54 | iWolf | just a quick question if anyone can help, i have a touch pro 2 or rhodium and im stuck with trying to update launcher pro but i cant seeing i cant get wifi on,is there any hope? |
| 18:06.25 | MN_ | iwolf go to #xdandroid channel |
| 18:06.47 | iWolf | thanks :D |
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| 18:10.22 | Alex[sp3dev] | no i was serious |
| 18:10.23 | Cotulla | DOS was not? I think it was big revolution. |
| 18:10.23 | Cotulla | it allow to understand that computers are something useful and friendly |
| 18:10.23 | Alex[sp3dev] | dos? cmon. unix has existed before dos. and dos has not only brought nothing new. it was even worse, it didn't have any security model and was a not a multitasking os |
| 18:10.23 | Cotulla | yeah |
| 18:10.23 | Cotulla | but it was needed by ppl |
| 18:10.23 | Alex[sp3dev] | dos and windows (the ones before NT) have brought IT some 15 years back in time |
| 18:10.23 | Cotulla | and not everyone need this "security model" |
| 18:10.23 | Cotulla | 15 years? |
| 18:10.23 | Alex[sp3dev] | yeah |
| 18:10.23 | Cotulla | disagree. actually it move back from geeks point of view |
| 18:10.23 | Cotulla | but for users.. it was big step forward |
| 18:10.23 | Alex[sp3dev] | for the users who don't want to learn anything and want to fuck up your brain coming to you and asking how to do basic things every single day |
| 18:10.23 | Cotulla | they may don't have time |
| 18:10.23 | Alex[sp3dev] | that's not an excuse. they waste more time of other people.. if someone doesn't care to take some days to learn the things he will need for years of his work, he is a stupid motherfucker |
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| 18:21.53 | Tapip | if you have 40 and more years you dont want lern nothing about computers , just u need some noob OS like windows |
| 18:22.59 | Tapip | I dont have time to learn linux and yeah... im stupid motherfucker |
| 18:23.57 | tfouto | the thing is... an inteligent OS is the one who make things for you, plug and play and easy installation |
| 18:24.14 | tfouto | its not an OS who requires lots of time for the ordinary user |
| 18:24.58 | tfouto | that require that a user must be 'above average' in IT |
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| 18:25.20 | Tapip | inteligent means buggy :D if we look windows |
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| 18:26.53 | Alex[sp3dev] | damn of course LK hangs every now and then. the linker doesn't even care to check the presence of all symbols. guess i need to make it more strict |
| 18:26.53 | Alex[sp3dev] | Tapip: did i tell you need to learn linux? i just said that if your job involves using something, you must either learn it or stop complaining |
| 18:26.53 | Alex[sp3dev] | yes. dos was not an intelligent os |
| 18:26.53 | Alex[sp3dev] | no.. backwards-compatible means buggy. or, to say better, the more code you have, the more bugs you have |
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| 18:36.09 | Cotulla | week symbols? ^^ |
| 18:36.22 | DomZ | Even if dos wasn't so powerfull as unix systems DOS is a revolution because it's the first OS used by a lot of people (and noobs) and next W95, W98 |
| 18:36.24 | Alex[sp3dev] | weak symbols everywhere |
| 18:36.30 | Cotulla | yeah |
| 18:36.37 | Alex[sp3dev] | this sucks |
| 18:36.41 | Cotulla | not always |
| 18:36.46 | Cotulla | sometimes it's good |
| 18:36.55 | Cotulla | because u can replace symbol in binary |
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| 18:38.19 | Alex[sp3dev] | who the fuck needs it in bootloader.. in an opensource one |
| 18:38.19 | Cotulla | dunno |
| 18:38.19 | Cotulla | where u stops? |
| 18:38.19 | Alex[sp3dev] | i dunno tbh. right now i will enable all compiler and linker warnings and fix them first and then try again |
| 18:38.42 | Cotulla | bad that LK doesn't support multicores however |
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| 18:41.50 | manusfreedom | Cotulla: agree with you about geek to normal users... |
| 18:42.57 | Cotulla | hehe |
| 18:42.57 | Cotulla | I mean if I am developer, I should develop, not fucking with things around :) |
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| 18:44.05 | manusfreedom | Cotulla :) |
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| 18:55.22 | Curious_ | Cotulla, yes, don't fuck with here and develop magldr further |
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| 19:03.37 | Cotulla | Alex, yes Settings is awful :D |
| 19:03.37 | Alex[sp3dev] | what? |
| 19:03.37 | Cotulla | ur video ^^ |
| 19:03.37 | Alex[sp3dev] | ah yeah |
| 19:03.37 | Alex[sp3dev] | it is veeery fast |
| 19:03.37 | Cotulla | did u connect keyboard via usb host? |
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| 19:08.05 | Curious_ | NetRipper how can i find the bank addresses of GPIOs |
| 19:08.22 | Curious_ | i can't see in-out when i use TRACES with GPIOS |
| 19:09.19 | Alex[sp3dev] | hmm.. i really feel like threading should be removed from LK. or virtually every gpio, clock and init function will need to be rewritten in a synchronized way |
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| 19:11.24 | Cotulla | Alex, they should support this already? |
| 19:11.45 | Cotulla | Alex, there bootloader legacy |
| 19:11.51 | Cotulla | true oldschooll |
| 19:11.55 | Cotulla | with polling |
| 19:12.09 | Alex[sp3dev] | they do have synchronization primitives but not all functions seem thread safe.. anyway.. gotta hack in some more hardware support to ease up debugging first |
| 19:12.13 | Curious_ | Cotulla, can you reverse engineer the proximity sensor driver from winmo pls |
| 19:12.17 | Curious_ | it is fucking our batteryman |
| 19:12.20 | Cotulla | is it working? |
| 19:12.21 | Cotulla | http://jpcsp.org/ |
| 19:12.22 | Cotulla | O_o |
| 19:12.37 | Cotulla | cockpoo, what the problem? describe. |
| 19:12.50 | Curious_ | proximity and LS are ON always at the same time |
| 19:12.53 | Curious_ | in android |
| 19:12.58 | Cotulla | right |
| 19:13.02 | Curious_ | but it they can be off and on in Winmo |
| 19:13.03 | Curious_ | i checked |
| 19:13.12 | Cotulla | no, there common power |
| 19:13.31 | Curious_ | but in android, whenever the screen is on |
| 19:13.36 | Curious_ | the Proximity sensor flashes |
| 19:13.38 | Curious_ | seen in camera |
| 19:13.42 | Curious_ | but in winmo, it doesn't happen |
| 19:13.43 | dan1j3l | if u cut power on ps then no light sensor |
| 19:13.48 | Cotulla | wait |
| 19:13.53 | Cotulla | "flashes"? |
| 19:13.56 | Curious_ | yes, |
| 19:14.00 | Cotulla | 1 / 0? |
| 19:14.03 | Curious_ | you can see when you put in front of the camera |
| 19:14.07 | Curious_ | no |
| 19:14.13 | Curious_ | you can see that proximity sensor is flashing on camera |
| 19:14.16 | Curious_ | let me send you video |
| 19:14.17 | Curious_ | wait |
| 19:14.23 | Cotulla | yeah... it's something intersting |
| 19:14.41 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: never seen infrared through camera/ |
| 19:14.42 | Alex[sp3dev] | ? |
| 19:14.47 | Curious_ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkyYFLUjzaM |
| 19:14.49 | Curious_ | this is winmo |
| 19:14.54 | Curious_ | it flashes only when there is a call |
| 19:15.00 | Curious_ | this is android : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1hdqIFzquw |
| 19:15.05 | Curious_ | it flashes whenever the screen is on |
| 19:15.08 | dan1j3l | on wince ps is active only in phone-call |
| 19:15.09 | Curious_ | which means LS is on |
| 19:15.12 | Curious_ | yes |
| 19:15.15 | Curious_ | but in androi |
| 19:15.19 | Curious_ | it is on except sleep |
| 19:15.23 | Curious_ | suspend* |
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| 19:17.29 | Curious_ | Cotulla: did you look at the videos |
| 19:17.48 | Curious_ | I believe there is a gpio or some other interrupt that triggers those flashes |
| 19:18.24 | Curious_ | i wanna fix it but haret doesn't help much :/ |
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| 19:33.58 | manusfreedom | for information about the bug on poweroff under android: poweroff don't work if sim enable, if you turn airplane mode before shutdown you can poweroff completly the phone (withou the end blank screen |
| 19:34.35 | manusfreedom | so I I think we need to add in the poweroff of kernel the complet shutdown of sim part (smd & co) |
| 19:34.54 | manusfreedom | oups error |
| 19:34.58 | manusfreedom | don't work too :( |
| 19:37.11 | Cotulla | ? |
| 19:37.15 | Cotulla | explain? |
| 19:37.45 | Curious_ | cotulla you have no comments to proximity issue? |
| 19:38.06 | manusfreedom | Cotulla: nothing I said nothing... oups |
| 19:38.15 | manusfreedom | I speak too quickly |
| 19:39.16 | Cotulla | cockpro, explain issue more.. honestly I just didn't understand 1)actual problem 2)do u want to have LSensor on? 3)do u want to have PSensor on? |
| 19:39.48 | Curious_ | i want LS on, PS off |
| 19:40.00 | Curious_ | in winmo, LS can be ON when PS is off |
| 19:40.02 | Curious_ | but in androi |
| 19:40.07 | Curious_ | it can't be |
| 19:40.37 | Curious_ | didn't you watch videos |
| 19:40.45 | Curious_ | they are pretty self explanatory |
| 19:40.47 | Cotulla | android have such setting? |
| 19:40.52 | Cotulla | disable proximity |
| 19:40.55 | Curious_ | it is kernel thing |
| 19:41.17 | Curious_ | not the proximity option. I want the "sensor" to be off |
| 19:41.23 | Curious_ | i want it stop to "flash" |
| 19:41.27 | Curious_ | check video!!!!!! |
| 19:41.36 | Curious_ | above I sent it |
| 19:41.43 | Curious_ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1hdqIFzquw |
| 19:41.52 | Curious_ | in android, it fucking doesn't stop |
| 19:42.31 | Cotulla | I saw it |
| 19:42.40 | Cotulla | but android UI doesn't have such option? |
| 19:42.45 | Curious_ | it shouldn't be flashing when there is no calling uption |
| 19:42.51 | Curious_ | what does it have to do with android UI |
| 19:43.03 | Cotulla | how it interacts with kernel |
| 19:43.15 | Curious_ | sysfs calls ioctl to turn on or off the PS |
| 19:43.26 | Curious_ | i mean android calls via sysfs |
| 19:43.37 | Curious_ | check board-proximity.c |
| 19:43.44 | Cotulla | are u sure kernel got command at the end? maybe there just something wrong? |
| 19:43.48 | Curious_ | board-htcleo-proximity.c |
| 19:43.48 | Curious_ | yes |
| 19:43.50 | Curious_ | it has |
| 19:43.55 | Curious_ | i checked that dozens of times |
| 19:44.11 | DaveZworka | hehe I made same video |
| 19:44.12 | DaveZworka | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0YHQdAO_Cw |
| 19:44.16 | Curious_ | our kernel doesn'T have the option to have "PS ffn, LS on" |
| 19:44.24 | Curious_ | "PS off, LS on" |
| 19:44.52 | Cotulla | which lang is it? |
| 19:45.00 | Cotulla | "czujnik zbli?eniowy okiem kamery"? |
| 19:45.21 | DaveZworka | polish |
| 19:45.30 | Cotulla | oh |
| 19:45.41 | DaveZworka | :D |
| 19:45.46 | Cotulla | Curious, I will look tomorrow |
| 19:45.48 | Curious_ | Cotulla can you check proximity driver of winmo |
| 19:45.58 | Curious_ | just check whether is there any option to turn off proximity on |
| 19:45.59 | Curious_ | only* |
| 19:46.13 | Curious_ | like one gpio |
| 19:46.17 | Cotulla | hm.... proximity support in magldr |
| 19:46.21 | Curious_ | :D |
| 19:47.02 | stroughtonsmith | yes, you have to hold it upside down beside your face to activate WP7 mode :P |
| 19:47.07 | Cotulla | hm anyone know working PSP emulations? |
| 19:47.17 | Cotulla | or they all sucks? |
| 19:47.20 | Curious_ | sony is gonna release i believe:D |
| 19:47.45 | Curious_ | is playstation phone legit? |
| 19:48.07 | stroughtonsmith | legit yes, but it won't play PSP games most likely |
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| 19:50.06 | phh | stroughtonsmith: it could |
| 19:50.20 | stroughtonsmith | sure, it could, but I don't know if Sony is going to try it |
| 19:50.24 | phh | just some virtualisation needed and some propriatary 3D stack => opengles conversion to do |
| 19:50.59 | stroughtonsmith | I have a feeling that any games will be brand new, and have more in common with PSP2 than PSP, but who knows! |
| 19:56.45 | Cotulla | will they work on LEO? |
| 19:56.55 | stroughtonsmith | :D |
| 19:57.18 | stroughtonsmith | the Xperia Play is running snapdragon at 1ghz |
| 19:57.28 | stroughtonsmith | so, fundamentally, hardware is the same, asides controls |
| 19:57.31 | JesusFreak316 | Work well? Probably not as it looks like it's running the newer snapdragon with adreno 205. |
| 19:58.47 | stroughtonsmith | " |
| 19:58.47 | stroughtonsmith | Based on the early benchmark results, Adreno 205 is expected to be about four times faster than Adreno 200." |
| 19:58.48 | JesusFreak316 | http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/07/sonys-playstation-phone-gets-in-depth-preview-in-china-playsta/ |
| 19:58.54 | stroughtonsmith | (from http://smartphonebenchmarks.com/forum/index.php?/topic/61-what-is-adreno-205-and-how-does-it-compare-to-other-gpus/ ) |
| 19:59.10 | Cotulla | maybe it's china copy |
| 19:59.11 | Cotulla | :P |
| 19:59.24 | fakker | KIRF |
| 19:59.28 | JesusFreak316 | Superior China copy? :P This isn't Meizu. |
| 19:59.41 | stroughtonsmith | fakker somebody's an engadget regular :P |
| 19:59.50 | fakker | that's my job |
| 20:00.01 | stroughtonsmith | orly? |
| 20:00.41 | fakker | i saw a real nice iphone 4g looking android phone - pretty good specs, was running 2.2... forgot the name though |
| 20:00.49 | fakker | made in china, of course |
| 20:01.29 | stroughtonsmith | the M9 does look sleek, the design team they hired for the UI did a good job |
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| 20:03.19 | Curious_ | how can i distinguish physical address from virtual address? |
| 20:09.43 | Willd | Curious_: Without a reference? It's hard |
| 20:09.53 | Willd | Curious_: With a reference, piss easy |
| 20:10.00 | Curious_ | ehm |
| 20:10.06 | Curious_ | with reference what do you mean |
| 20:10.10 | Willd | Curious_: What are you trying to do? |
| 20:10.18 | Curious_ | i have an address |
| 20:10.22 | Curious_ | gpio address |
| 20:10.22 | Willd | From? |
| 20:10.24 | Curious_ | haret |
| 20:10.33 | Curious_ | but dunno whether physical or virtual |
| 20:10.39 | Willd | I'd say physical |
| 20:10.53 | Willd | Otherwise you would find it mapped somewhere in the source |
| 20:11.03 | Curious_ | with @ ? |
| 20:11.13 | Willd | Huh? |
| 20:11.16 | Curious_ | nvm :D |
| 20:11.30 | Willd | (Though I could be wrong :p) |
| 20:11.34 | Curious_ | Watching GPIOS(17): Addr d3600c08(@a9100c08) |
| 20:11.42 | Curious_ | d3600c08 should be a bank of gpios right? |
| 20:12.32 | Willd | Dang, trying to make me thing eh? |
| 20:12.38 | Willd | Not on a saturday you don't! |
| 20:12.47 | Curious_ | :D |
| 20:13.04 | Willd | Curious_: That's a bit beyond me actually :( |
| 20:13.08 | Curious_ | k |
| 20:13.16 | Willd | Hope you solve it though :) |
| 20:13.23 | Curious_ | I hope too:D |
| 20:13.36 | Cotulla | thinks gpio troll here :D |
| 20:13.58 | Willd | Cotulla: I was wrong? |
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| 20:14.29 | Cotulla | I wanna sleep |
| 20:14.34 | Cotulla | and nothing intersting me now |
| 20:14.35 | Cotulla | :P |
| 20:14.47 | Cotulla | sry |
| 20:14.50 | Willd | Psch :p |
| 20:15.00 | Curious_ | Cotulla save me from this hustle |
| 20:15.05 | Curious_ | it must be easy! |
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