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| 20:16.39 | ftoz | Hi, can someone advice for mddi_totoshiba registers seting? |
| 20:18.32 | ftoz | I have msm7200 + TC358720XBG + 800x480 panel |
| 20:20.32 | ftoz | panel runs on 32Mhz pixelclock, where can i write this value? |
| 20:28.59 | Cotulla | w00t? |
| 20:29.43 | Cotulla | maybe to MDDI_NS / MDDI_MD |
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| 22:03.52 | zeus | Hello my fellow humans |
| 22:04.51 | zeus | these pesky humans must learn to sleep less and do more :| |
| 22:05.02 | Alex[sp3dev] | indeed |
| 22:05.05 | zeus | apt fetch sleepingpills from cotulla |
| 22:05.20 | zeus | why no apt listen to me :s |
| 22:05.28 | zeus | apt kill self |
| 22:05.28 | apt | ACTION shoots a charged positrino gun at self |
| 22:05.42 | zeus | that's a good boi. |
| 22:06.16 | zeus | alex, you're tp2 dev rite ? |
| 22:06.26 | Alex[sp3dev] | zeus: wrong |
| 22:06.38 | zeus | leo ? |
| 22:06.41 | Alex[sp3dev] | x1 |
| 22:07.10 | zeus | hmmm, is the lk on x1 in line with the mainline git at codeaurora ? |
| 22:08.02 | zeus | or do you work on something else ? |
| 22:08.17 | Alex[sp3dev] | not really. have not updated it for ages. i have forked ca one somewhere in april.. i have made a lot of changes to allow to use it with non-android RPC and on multiple boards (rhod, kovs) so it differs too much to merge back |
| 22:09.30 | zeus | anyway, i just synced to their repo and every commit past the last few months is broken, half the stuff didn't compile even after ~8 hours of fixing |
| 22:09.59 | Alex[sp3dev] | it's qualcomm.. their code either just works (if it is for your device) or does not work at all |
| 22:10.02 | zeus | i wonder why they'd include openssl and stuff in lk when it is supposed to serve as just a reference to oems |
| 22:10.10 | Alex[sp3dev] | openssl? really? |
| 22:10.28 | zeus | yeah, they;ve added even more crazy stuff |
| 22:10.45 | Alex[sp3dev] | zeus: sorry, but I don't remember talking to you before. which projects and devices are you working on? |
| 22:10.55 | zeus | for starters, their quadcore krait will come with a tamper and root flag fuse. |
| 22:11.28 | zeus | I've been working on the intel pxa and the htc leo for quite sometime although i was bit of shy on the irc |
| 22:11.35 | Alex[sp3dev] | i see |
| 22:13.02 | zeus | and their support is even worse. QUIC servers no purpose in my eyes, most of the stuff was done by brian swetland from google or travis for lk and newos. qualcomm should get better cs guys. |
| 22:13.05 | zeus | *serves |
| 22:14.20 | Alex[sp3dev] | well. after looking to their public and non-public code i think they have good algorithms and good coders but somehow suck at integration and version control. and from what i read on the internets, qualcomm is notorious for its management style |
| 22:15.01 | zeus | o_O non-public code as in ? you work there ? |
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| 22:15.35 | zeus | The worst part was the tamper and root flag fuses in their krait cores |
| 22:15.48 | zeus | that just pushes me to the omap camp |
| 22:15.59 | Alex[sp3dev] | i do not. but you know, nothing is really 'secret' and NDA'd nowadays |
| 22:16.22 | zeus | can i have a look ? LOL |
| 22:16.25 | Alex[sp3dev] | what about root fuses? |
| 22:16.55 | zeus | there is special hardware in their quadcore krait cpu for oem's to tell if handset was rooted or running custom rom |
| 22:17.14 | zeus | so there is no way to use custom rom and still do away with warantee by flashing back stock stuff. |
| 22:17.18 | Alex[sp3dev] | this is kind of funny how customers are forced to pay for vendors raping them |
| 22:17.30 | zeus | yeah. |
| 22:17.54 | zeus | and at the same time omap has their xloader (1st stage loader) opensourced if im not wrong |
| 22:18.26 | zeus | arif-ali: you stay in US of A ? |
| 22:18.40 | Alex[sp3dev] | omap and tegra are nice SoCs if the vendor provides security key. if they do not, you can wait some 20 years until someone figures out how to crack RSA fast in polynomial time |
| 22:18.43 | arif-ali | zeus, no, UK |
| 22:19.55 | zeus | well qualcomm has joined the band with encrypted bootloaders and hardware flags for manipulation. |
| 22:20.30 | zeus | although since they have open sourced the work to switch those flags in lk, i wonder how funny it will be when guys at xda use that same code to reset those flags |
| 22:21.13 | zeus | arif: oops, my bad. forgot virgin is uk based :| |
| 22:21.33 | Alex[sp3dev] | actually i like SE policy on unlocking - you can cancel warranty and get unlocked. wish all vendors could do the same |
| 22:22.46 | zeus | thats on motorola, htc and samsung for now. except that htc had crappy code which was hacked by some guys and give unlocked device WITH warranty |
| 22:23.12 | zeus | i was quite amused when i jumped to the leo section and saw the numerous guides on making warantee claim after putting android on the device |
| 22:23.14 | Alex[sp3dev] | and i do not see why they really need security on application processor and ban rooting. they can just move all sim lock to modem firmware and, moreover, burn the firmware loader onto some memory in cpu like in omap and tegra so that the user cannot brick the device |
| 22:23.48 | zeus | maybe cuz they want to offer oem to customize the app loader ? |
| 22:24.13 | zeus | for eg:- hboot implements quite some stuff from lk if im not wrong. |
| 22:25.31 | Alex[sp3dev] | this is even worse. most OEM preinstalled software looks like is written by students or is just malware. like stuff that comes with laptops. but with RIAA and other forms of copyrasty it is not surprising that vendors need all ways to enforce DRM, disable tethering etc |
| 22:26.38 | zeus | i wish android had been a bit more strict regarding what all to be open and what all is in the control of the end user rather than some carrier or oem. |
| 22:28.19 | zeus | Cotulla: you awake ? or are you thrown away in the lust of my wife ? |
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