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03:43.25*** topic/#htc-linux is Welcome to the HTC Linux project | Community portal & WiKi http://htc-linux.org | For IRC logs, HaRET & kernel mailing lists etc. see http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Contact | The htc-linux.org project is not affiliated with the HTC Corporation | This channel is for development purposes - Join #htc-linux-chat for offtopic
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03:45.03yelpedDoes anyone here have any idea what's going on here? Thanks! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1322523
03:45.51yelpedSorry, I just realized this might belong by the chat? Should I switch or this is ok?
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04:42.26XirXesyelped, you should run mount through adb shell and post the output on your thread
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07:57.10dr1337hey guys, does anyone which channel cotulla hangs out on?
08:06.45XirXesafaik your on it
08:08.22dr1337ok
08:08.36dr1337maybe i'll pose my question on here
08:08.57dr1337does anyone have any information on the boot sequence used in Windows Phone 7?
08:09.24XirXesnope. not here. check the channel name dumbass
08:10.01dr1337i know, i know
08:10.10dr1337but there is nowhere else to ask
08:10.48XirXeslol ask on xda, or ppc geeks. they have sections for that you know
08:11.35dr1337thanks for the referral to ppcgeeks
08:11.55dr1337didn't know about them, xda is pretty much all android
08:12.30XirXesexcept for the dedicated sub forums for other os's. and your welcome
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11:52.21incubus72hello, someone there who works on the RAPH LCD collapse issue ?
11:53.01incubus72as far i know whe don't even know the LCD type (hardware) - so we can't write sleep/wakeup code ? right ?
11:53.35incubus72i just wonder about this http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/RaphaelLCD  - there is info about LCD types - and for some even info about wakeup ... so what missing ?
11:54.59incubus72afaik wistilt2&stinebd worked on it .. did anybody hear of them lately ?
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15:06.03Cotullahey Alex
15:06.10Alex[sp3dev]hey
15:06.16Cotullahow are u?
15:06.33Alex[sp3dev]fine..
15:06.41Cotullahow is it?
15:07.27Alex[sp3dev]dunno. got some extra days-off here but spending them mostly on sleeping
15:07.36Cotullausb works now?
15:07.58Cotullasleeping good
15:09.37Alex[sp3dev]no.. although i tried invalidating entire cache. then i decided to flash to nand (as it works on native devices, a cold boot could be useful). it did not boot. then, i tried adding port remap (via cp15) and other stuff and it did not even vibrate. probably i am making os image/mbr wrongly but no more experiments today, got other things to do yet
15:09.58Cotullahehe
15:10.00Cotullado u have extUSB in X1?
15:10.03Cotullaheadet
15:10.07Alex[sp3dev]no
15:10.08Cotulla*headset
15:10.14Cotullathere 3.5?
15:10.27Alex[sp3dev]yes. dude, you have one, check yourself
15:10.36Cotullalazy :(
15:11.01Cotullaand are there some audio amplifiers ?
15:11.14Alex[sp3dev]probably yes, controlled via gpio
15:11.46Cotullaseems topaz doesn't have power for audio O_o
15:11.50Alex[sp3dev]i have also disassembled photon and liberty bootloader. the main difference is that liberty enables some undocumented bits in cr and aux cr (actually, some of the bits are the same that need to be disabled on leo)
15:12.26Cotullabut it's prev generation ARMv6
15:12.38Alex[sp3dev]yeah, so they may have other meaning
15:12.56Cotulladid u check memory layout?
15:13.24Alex[sp3dev]well, i ripped the virtual map table from nk.exe and bootloader
15:13.44Cotullau put buffer at the right place
15:14.54Cotullamaybe u can try to decrease size of data
15:14.57Alex[sp3dev]not sure, i tried different locations (1mb, 0x20000000 and some others). i really wonder what happens since usb dump looks ok and the device receives byte count correctly
15:15.02Cotullaand send by smaller chunks
15:15.27Cotullaall other commands in fast boot are less than 512 bytes, right?
15:15.36Alex[sp3dev]yes
15:15.38Cotullamaybe try to limit it by 128-256 bytes
15:15.49Alex[sp3dev]actually it sends them in 64 byte packets, i think
15:16.27Cotullahm
15:16.33Cotulla64 is FS
15:16.35Cotulla512 is HS
15:16.40Cotullamaximum
15:17.24Cotullano there 4096
15:17.27Cotullaby dma
15:17.47Cotullamaximum is 5 * 4096 for chain descriptors
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15:17.53Cotullaor 4 * 4096 with ZLP
15:17.56Alex[sp3dev]neither works, though. strange that it works in linux. since vid/pid are sent correctly and the host receives fastboot ack ("FAIL" and "OK" messages), the phy is probably set up correctly
15:19.36Alex[sp3dev]so next time i will take the stock wince rom and replace the code at xip start with some basic code to vibrate. this will at least show whether i need extra initialization or the problem is in os image layout
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15:22.09Cotullarun it via haret maybe
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15:40.45yelpedAnyone want to look at this? Updated: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1322523 Thanks!
15:43.07arrrghhhyelped, mind telling me why you have a developer device but you're not developing on it...?
15:43.25arrrghhhseems you want to use a dev device as a consumer device, unless i'm just reading the thread wrong.
15:45.30yelpedYou're 100% right. I won this, and I would gladly exchange this, but for now I am trying to use it a consumer device.
15:45.38yelped*as a
15:46.38arrrghhhohgod
15:46.40arrrghhhyou won it?
15:46.47arrrghhhnow i have to know
15:46.51yelpedAs I wrote.
15:46.54arrrghhhwho is giving out dev devices to non-devs?  lol
15:47.45yelpedhttp://www.anandtech.com/show/4293/were-giving-away-a-qualcomm-msm8660-mobile-development-platform
15:47.50yelpedhttp://www.anandtech.com/show/4319/antec-soundscience-rockus-3d-giveaway
15:51.26Cotullahet arrrghhh?
15:51.28Cotullahey
15:51.30Cotullahow are u?
15:51.57arrrghhhgood man
15:52.08arrrghhhjust bummin around.  you?  how's TPZ?
15:52.19CotullaX_x
15:52.44arrrghhhheh
15:52.46arrrghhhyelped, damn you.
15:53.01yelpedWhy?
15:53.05yelped:)
15:53.10arrrghhhbecause you got a $1400 device
15:53.22arrrghhhand have no business owning it :P
15:53.38arrrghhhi wouldn't either tho, so don't think i'm being high and mighty lol
15:54.20arrrghhhThere's WiFi support but no support for cellular connectivity. The platform runs Android 2.3.
15:54.23arrrghhhhum
15:54.33arrrghhhQualcomm makes a device w/o celluar connectivity
15:54.34arrrghhhironic
15:54.52yelpedMaybe I have no business owning a $1350 device that I can't use, but one that I can use, why not?
15:55.04arrrghhhdude
15:55.08arrrghhhit's a development platform
15:55.30arrrghhhTo enter the contest simply respond to this post with a comment about what you'd do with the MSM8660 Mobile Development Platform
15:55.38arrrghhhwhat did you possibly say in order to win!?!?
15:55.45arrrghhhi figured they wanted the device to go to a developer...
15:56.12yelpedAFAIK it does have the 8660 SoC (and not APQ8060), just not enabled in software.
15:57.02arrrghhhmeh
15:57.03Cotullayelped, arrrghhh means that it's not designed for end users. It's designed for developers who have already big knowledge .
15:57.22arrrghhhyea, i think he knows that.  just doesn't care because he's won something cool :P
15:57.45arrrghhhi'm still baffled they asked for posts on what you'd do with the mobile dev platform and you won?
15:57.50arrrghhhwha'd you say, cure cancer?  lol
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16:00.57yelpedI understand and I would be willing to trade it, but in the licensing terms "You shall not etc. or (viii) resell or otherwise place on the market in any manner, any Mobile Development Platform that has had any of the radio frequency capabilities (e.g. 3G, Bluetooth, or WIFI) enabled.
16:01.33arrrghhhdude
16:01.35arrrghhhyou won it
16:01.47arrrghhhof course you can't sell it or trade it
16:01.51arrrghhhseriously tho
16:01.54arrrghhhwhat did you say to win it
16:02.00arrrghhhi thought they wanted that device to end up with a developer
16:02.02arrrghhhdid you lie?
16:02.09yelpedYou can still read my comment there.
16:03.08yelpedThe licensing term is there even when you buy it. BSquare's draconian policies.
16:03.38Hunterkllwhich coment's yours?
16:03.53arrrghhh^^
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16:03.57yelpedBut I can technically remove the firmware enabling the wifi.
16:04.43yelpedThe same name I go by here.
16:05.10Cotullalol
16:05.13arrrghhhi looked for you
16:05.15arrrghhhdidn't see it
16:05.17arrrghhhlemme look agian
16:05.18arrrghhhagain*
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16:05.27Hunterkllcan't find it, even with viewing all
16:06.13yelpedI see, they still don't put all the comments on one page.
16:06.24arrrghhhFFS
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16:06.35arrrghhhHunterkll, i found it
16:06.38arrrghhh"I would save $1350."
16:06.49arrrghhhfuck.
16:06.52arrrghhhyou serious?!?!?
16:06.55arrrghhhi swar.
16:06.59arrrghhhSWEAR!!!!
16:07.02Kookstar:D
16:07.37yelpedWEll, I guess I did.
16:07.46HunterkllLOL
16:08.02arrrghhhthey gave you a dev device.  for that comment.
16:08.05Hunterklli'm using that response in every competition now
16:08.06arrrghhhlawdy...
16:08.06Hunterklldude
16:08.07Hunterkllit's andtech
16:08.19arrrghhhnever been to that site.  for artards? lol
16:08.28Kookstarnow i know what i have to tell them on such competitions :D
16:08.45Hunterkllreply: and you did!
16:08.53Hunterkllarrrghhh, it's ... low grade
16:09.07arrrghhhlol
16:09.25arrrghhh"I would like to develop an Android interface to control another BT-enabled device I am working on."
16:09.27yelpedActually, it's a pretty-in-depth review site. It's just that he didn't put any clause "for developers only".
16:09.28arrrghhhwhy didn't that guy win.
16:09.41arrrghhhyelped, no no clause
16:09.48arrrghhhbut i figured they would've picked 'the best' comment
16:09.55arrrghhhnot 'just some random comment'
16:09.56yelpedThe system picks a random comment.
16:10.01arrrghhh*facepalm*
16:10.09arrrghhhthe system has failed.
16:10.24Hunterkllnah
16:10.32Hunterkllthey just ganked the funniest
16:10.36Hunterkllin their minds
16:11.01arrrghhhfunniest?
16:11.05arrrghhhor most inappropriate lol
16:11.15yelpedNo,Winners will be selected in a random drawing of eligible entries received during the Promotion Period.
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16:11.27arrrghhhthese comments are gold
16:11.29arrrghhh"I'd use it as a phone, because I don't have one atm T_T "
16:11.38arrrghhhdipshit, it has no cell radio
16:11.47arrrghhhyelped, i get that.
16:11.59arrrghhhi just think it's perhaps the worst possible way to give away a dev device
16:12.05arrrghhhthat's fine for say... a set of speakers
16:12.08yelpedIt does, just not enabled. You have to pay BSquare to enable it.
16:12.12arrrghhhor something that doesn't require you to develop it lol
16:12.18arrrghhhmeh.
16:14.17yelpedWell, any ideas? :)
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16:14.41Alex[sp3dev]is it true that a massive butthurt is floating nearby?
16:15.38Hunterklllol
16:16.01Hunterkllapparently someone won an awsome kit
16:16.06Hunterklland everyone is jelly
16:17.12yelpedI would be willing to trade\sell.
16:19.35Cotullahow u won it?
16:20.13yelpedRead the logs of the last half-hour. :)
16:20.23Hunterklloh come on Cotulla, not even going to ask how my hand is?
16:20.24Hunterkll:)
16:20.31Alex[sp3dev]atomic_inc(&global_butthurt_count)
16:20.43yelpedDid someone actually read the question? :)
16:21.07HunterkllHrm, the HD2 storm must have really died down, for cotulla to be here without a different handle
16:23.05arrrghhhlol
16:23.30HunterkllI remember when cotulla had a different nick every week to hide. lol
16:24.26helicopter88Rapunzel
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16:32.39Cotulla?
16:32.44Cotullaoh
16:32.49Cotullayeah hand :D
16:32.52Hunterkllhaha
16:32.55Cotullais it good now?
16:32.59Hunterkllit has been good
16:33.01Hunterkllfor over a year
16:33.02Hunterkllor more
16:33.10Hunterkllbut even after it was healed, for months, you still asked, anyway
16:33.11CotullaAlex, we can do it without atomic
16:33.21Cotullayeah
16:33.32Cotullaassociation: Hunterkll -> broken hand
16:33.33Cotulla<PROTECTED>
16:34.41Hunterkll:D
16:34.49Alex[sp3dev]Cotulla: really? i think if we miss a single butthurt, it would be very bad
16:37.02arrrghhhcan't miss any butthurt
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16:39.55yelpedNow that you all enjoyed yourselves(at my expense), does anyone have any ideas? :) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1322523
16:41.33arrrghhhyelped, i think the resentment for you trying to run a dev device as a consumer device is the lack of response
16:41.33arrrghhhall around.
16:41.58arrrghhhno offense... well, maybe a little.  seriously.  that whole situation under which you got that device is kinda ridiculous, even you can admit.
16:43.14yelpedI understand. But what does one gain out of resentment? And what else should I do with it, if I can't dev?
16:44.39arrrghhhuhm
16:44.44arrrghhhit's a useless device if you can't dev.
16:44.52arrrghhhi'd say try learning how to develop
16:44.59yelpedI am willing to trade\sell :)
16:45.00arrrghhhyou don't have any interest in developing anything on it?
16:45.02arrrghhhnot even apps?
16:45.03arrrghhhoy
16:45.06arrrghhhthey told you not to.
16:45.20arrrghhhi wouldn't buy it
16:45.25yelpedI don't have time, I'm a full-time student.
16:45.40Alex[sp3dev]ololo
16:46.22Alex[sp3dev]ok, maybe he's studying in MIT and developing the replacement for Xorg and unix
16:46.34yelpedSo I figured that I'll try to use it as an Android Wifi device aka Samsung Galaxy Player\iPod Touch.
16:46.53yelpedLearning something better.
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17:05.30arrrghhhyelped, full time student
17:05.32arrrghhhthat seems like the perfect time
17:05.36arrrghhhwhat are you studying?
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17:12.41yelpedTalmud.
17:13.55arrrghhhuh... k
17:14.07arrrghhhgood luck with that?
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17:14.53yelpedWhat's the question?
17:15.28arrrghhhit was more of an awkward well-wishing statement.
17:16.07arrrghhhthe question mark was for... yea.  we'll call it dramatic effect since it's text and can't provide inflection.
17:37.17Cotullau means reflection?
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18:02.47arrrghhhno
18:02.48arrrghhhinflection
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20:29.57Alex[sp3dev][acl]: how goes it?
20:31.43[acl]Alex[sp3dev]: ehh.. same ol.. working and working some more..
20:31.48[acl]im about to fall asleep in my chair
20:31.59[acl]and why is nagios so ugly
20:32.14[acl]jebus
20:35.19Alex[sp3dev][acl]: fixed recovery poop?
20:36.14[acl]Alex[sp3dev]: hanks to your commit comments.. i was calling get reason more than ones but the second time i would get a value. Didnd realize i wiped it the first time :-p ..
20:36.19[acl]*thanks
20:36.30[acl]stoopid
20:36.36Alex[sp3dev][acl]: i think that comes from the code you copy pasted from my earlier version
20:36.38[acl]of course the address change as well but im a moron at times
20:36.48[acl]Alex[sp3dev]: yeah i had the old code
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20:37.11[acl]but calling boot reason more than once wasnt a good idea anwyays.. so changed it..
20:37.20[acl]Alex[sp3dev]: sup with you bro.. how photon ?
20:38.07Alex[sp3dev]i'm fffrruuustraded by photon. neither usb works when i boot the lk via haret (i even flush the whole cache. i even read the arm1136 manual) nor lk boots off nand. i mean, even stupid code to vibrate won't work when booting off nand. i'm about to panic
20:38.49[acl]take a break and see if it comes to you..lol. all i can suggest
20:39.08[acl]any of the photon guys even take interest in this ?
20:39.15[acl]or did they just dump the  project on yu?
20:39.24Alex[sp3dev]well, they're asking for eta all the time
20:39.47[acl]jezz
20:40.20Alex[sp3dev]actually i like winmo on photon. it is ways better than android, especially with htc customization. but it cannot render fonts and ui properly at 320x480
20:40.38[acl]damn that sounds like cotulla talk
20:40.40[acl]:-p
20:41.03[acl]320x480.. dang that thing must fly
20:41.13Alex[sp3dev]and it does. it also has adreno 200
20:44.20[acl]dang its shit like this that makes me wanna retire and just cry myself to sleep
20:44.22[acl]:-(
20:44.40[acl]adreno200 on that small display.. shiet
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20:47.04raymonddullthe lg optimus one series has the adreno200 too
20:47.07raymonddullsame res
20:47.25Alex[sp3dev]this thingie also has android-ish amss. it supports controlling clock and usb via pcom. except for amss and memory layout it is a copy of htc liberty, even gpios match
20:48.53[acl]damn
20:49.07[acl]no disassembly needed.. thats not fun
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21:09.54[acl]Alex[sp3dev]: aite dood.. i gotta get going.. trying to close the office early today.. ill ttyl..
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21:51.51dr1337hey guys, does anyone have any information regarding hboot, spl and nbh files?
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23:58.33FlawlesStyledecently generic question

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