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| 00:30.10 | TuxRox | I am attempting to install 3.2 beta 2 on SuSE 9 using apt-get. It wants to remove ulb-gnome, which is my main DE. How could I get around that? |
| 00:30.44 | drWorm | you could use konstruct to compile your own kde :) |
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| 00:31.57 | TuxRox | That doesn't sound very exciting... I think I'll go ahead, install and then run apt-get to get ulb-gnome reinstalled and see what it tries to remove then. |
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| 01:11.09 | mr_clark | hey guys. silly question here. What do I use to grab screenshots in KDE? |
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| 01:20.38 | mr_clark | never mind. I'm blonde. |
| 01:20.40 | mr_clark | later guys. |
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| 02:04.06 | BUBBAdK | i've just installed a brand new debian and x works (havent installed either kde or gnome) what should i type if i wan't to install the beta of kde like "apt-get install ???" |
| 02:04.24 | BUBBAdK | the kde 3.2 |
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| 02:06.32 | marcusU | CVS doesn't seem to work. |
| 02:06.49 | dori | does anyone know if there is anything on the 2.4.23 or 2.4.24 kernel that would make my KDE install run slowly? |
| 02:07.06 | dori | I did a custom kernel compile, and now some apps start to crawl |
| 02:07.37 | dori | kdeinit pegs the CPU sometimes |
| 02:07.42 | marcusU | Okay. CVS is proceeding now. |
| 02:07.45 | marcusU | I have no idea. |
| 02:08.27 | dori | kate/write for example hangs when I try to run a regexp replace |
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| 02:11.02 | ann3x | hey guys, i just compiled and installed kde3.2beta2 i still have my old kde3.1.4 installed. what do i copy to my /etc/X11/Sessions so i can use the 3.2beta kde? im using gentoo btw. |
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| 02:15.33 | BUBBAdK | should i install a kde 3.1 before installing the beta 2 |
| 02:15.50 | marcusU | Why would you? |
| 02:17.06 | BUBBAdK | well i don't know how to make a clean install of kde 3.2 i've found this deb site : deb http://www.cs.uni-magdeburg.de/~aschultz/debian/ unstable/ |
| 02:17.24 | BUBBAdK | but when i type : apt-get install kde |
| 02:17.28 | BUBBAdK | nothing happens |
| 02:17.48 | BUBBAdK | it can't find it...don't know what to do know |
| 02:17.54 | marcusU | Okay. I don't know the specifics of apt-get and Debian stuff. I just installed from source. |
| 02:17.54 | grepper | BUBBAdK: you use woody ? |
| 02:18.02 | grepper | oh |
| 02:18.22 | grepper | what does apt-cache policy kdelibs say ? |
| 02:18.48 | grepper | does it see the 3.1.94 packages ? |
| 02:19.06 | BUBBAdK | kdelibs: |
| 02:19.06 | BUBBAdK | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:19.06 | BUBBAdK | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:19.06 | BUBBAdK | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:19.06 | BUBBAdK | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:19.07 | BUBBAdK | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:19.22 | BUBBAdK | i haven't installed anything yet |
| 02:19.50 | BUBBAdK | it's a fresh debian install with xfree that's all |
| 02:20.38 | BUBBAdK | i use sid |
| 02:22.26 | BUBBAdK | grepper are you there |
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| 02:24.25 | grepper | BUBBAdK: apt-get install arts kdelibs kdebase |
| 02:24.27 | marcusU | Ugh. And Konqi's not handling bookmarks correctly. Time to updating again. :-) |
| 02:24.29 | grepper | see what that does |
| 02:25.14 | grepper | BUBBAdK: its possible that the "kde" metapackage is not versioned, so it doesn't update anything |
| 02:25.37 | BUBBAdK | i'll give it a try |
| 02:26.32 | BUBBAdK | hmm it says broken package....how do i fix that... |
| 02:27.27 | grepper | BUBBAdK: do you have XFree 4.3 ? |
| 02:27.46 | BUBBAdK | hehe how do i check that...sorry i'm pretty new at this |
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| 02:29.13 | grepper | oh, maybe you don't need it |
| 02:29.21 | grepper | paste the error you get in #flood |
| 02:30.01 | BUBBAdK | am there now...what should i type |
| 02:30.24 | grepper | show me the error messages you get with apt-get install kdelibs |
| 02:30.30 | BUBBAdK | ok |
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| 02:32.59 | marcusU | Oh, oh, here's a relevant question, is there a "pacing" option or something for pasting text like BUBBAdK was doing in #flood ? Something to prevent getting kicked off for pasting too rapidly? |
| 02:33.03 | marcusU | In KSirc |
| 02:37.45 | BUBBAdK | does any1 know how i install kde 3.2 on a freshly installed debian sid (havent installed either gnome or kde 3.1 and x works) |
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| 02:52.53 | NigelS | has anyone had any trouble getting kppp to use chap? |
| 02:56.40 | marcusU | I think I was using CHAP when I used to kppp. I'm not positive, though. |
| 02:57.40 | marcusU | NigelS: I still have the old config file around for kppp, and it looks like it was set for PAP/CHAP, and it worked okay. |
| 02:58.21 | NigelS | yeah, the odd thing is that I select chap but it seems to want to keep trying a script based login |
| 02:59.51 | marcusU | Oh. That's odd. I don't know a lot about kppp or ppp in general. I always just crossed my fingers and hoped it would work. |
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| 03:00.38 | NigelS | :) yeah I'll take another look at it in a bit |
| 03:00.49 | marcusU | Or try wvdial |
| 03:01.16 | marcusU | wvdial is very good about using a series of heuristics to attempt to get you connected, as long as you have the wv.conf file set up. |
| 03:02.13 | NigelS | hmm, thanks I'll take a look if my next efforts fail :) |
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| 03:09.40 | thegreat2 | hi i am trying to install 3.2 beta 2...and i get error: Failed dependencies: libmysqlclient.so.10 is needed by qt-MySQL-3.2.3-0.2 libodbc.so.1 is needed by qt-ODBC-3.2.3-0.2 cant seem to find what rpm is missing.... |
| 03:10.08 | thegreat2 | btw this is on fedora |
| 03:15.09 | Dhraakellian | so failed dependencies with FC rpms don't just happen on RH9... |
| 03:15.15 | Dhraakellian | !;þ |
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| 03:15.33 | bock | hmm |
| 03:15.52 | bock | why did kde crash after copying 45 GB of data? 5 GB were left :( |
| 03:16.11 | bock | I closed the file manager and I got the KDE bug handler |
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| 03:24.11 | BUBBAdK | how do i setup my resolution on my control center...it says i only can go as high as 1024x768 |
| 03:26.25 | marcusU | BUBBAdK: Where is that in control center anyway? |
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| 03:28.26 | NhJm | hey, how do u make a konqueror web shortcut using post instead of get? |
| 03:30.23 | marcusU | n/m. Found it. |
| 03:34.24 | BUBBAdK | he |
| 03:34.56 | marcusU | I don't know where it gets those resolutions. They definitely don't match the ones listed in my XF86Config |
| 03:38.39 | BUBBAdK | hmm....getting tired....can't think anymore....damnit |
| 03:40.14 | bock | marcusU, maybe from the definition of your Monitor |
| 03:40.33 | bock | Horizontal sync and vertical refresh |
| 03:43.03 | bock | what distro are you using? |
| 03:47.05 | bock | whatever I gotta go to bed its 5 am |
| 03:47.51 | marcusU | Only 9:44 pm here. |
| 03:48.12 | BoChi | damn |
| 03:48.17 | BoChi | 5 am |
| 03:48.21 | bock | I live in Munich |
| 03:48.31 | bock | Sam Jan 17 04:49:06 CET 2004 |
| 03:48.39 | bock | Sam = Sat in German |
| 03:48.40 | BoChi | yo servas midanand |
| 03:48.42 | BoChi | :P |
| 03:48.57 | bock | hmm |
| 03:49.03 | bock | how comes you know bavarian? |
| 03:49.16 | BoChi | i'm from nueremberg :P |
| 03:49.23 | bock | hmmm |
| 03:49.54 | bock | Du kennst nicht zufällig eine Judith? (BITTE!!! ich hab die mal zufällig kennengelernt, aber ihre nummer nicht. Seitdem frag ich jeden Nürnberger) |
| 03:50.51 | BoChi | ich kenn 2... wie alt ? :P |
| 03:51.09 | bock | 18-20 und Studiert |
| 03:51.11 | BoChi | aber die eine is vergeben und die andere 32 |
| 03:51.13 | BoChi | uhm |
| 03:51.17 | BoChi | nope ;-) |
| 03:51.19 | bock | ich weiß sogar wie man mit dem auto hinkommt |
| 03:51.25 | bock | ich könnt wieder hinfahren |
| 03:51.28 | bock | aber soooviel sprit |
| 03:52.09 | BoChi | bin ich vor einigen jahren 12x/jahr gefahrn :P |
| 03:52.12 | bock | ich überleg grad ob ich über nacht auf 3.1.5 upgraden soll |
| 03:52.43 | BoChi | ich denk wir sollten auf englisch switchen ;) |
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| 03:53.15 | BoChi | kde 3.2 rc1 will be rlsd on sunday? |
| 03:54.11 | bock | hmmm after the kernel 2.6 -test problems I had, I've sworn that I no longer try out release candidates |
| 03:54.28 | BoChi | i'm using 2.6 since test9 |
| 03:54.35 | BoChi | and kde 3.2 since beta1 ;) |
| 03:54.58 | bock | I was using it since test1, since the old 2.4 wasn't working with my Highpoint ATA controller |
| 03:55.06 | bock | I'm using Gentoo... |
| 03:55.17 | BoChi | well, no |
| 03:55.24 | bock | so its just "emerge kde" and tomorrow I'm set |
| 03:55.28 | BoChi | test1 = too heavy for me ;P |
| 03:55.47 | BoChi | i also had problems with test9 and my dvd burner |
| 03:56.02 | BoChi | which actually was fixed with 2.6.0 |
| 03:56.10 | bock | I solved all problems at the moment, so I am afraid upgrading kde |
| 03:56.25 | BoChi | kde 3.2 beta2 already works great |
| 03:56.42 | bock | I use my pc to "work" so it should not crash, etc |
| 03:56.57 | bock | and I might miss my plastik theme... or can I keep using that? |
| 03:56.59 | BoChi | well, i'm using kde 3.2 cvs at work ;) and it also works fine |
| 03:57.11 | BoChi | plastik is one of kde 3.2's default themes |
| 03:57.21 | bock | ok |
| 03:57.43 | BoChi | i wouldnt use 3.2 if plastik didn't work ;) |
| 04:02.11 | bock | ok, compiling kde 3.2beta2 overnight now |
| 04:02.36 | bock | hmmm |
| 04:02.43 | bock | I wonder what will happen to my kde |
| 04:03.34 | bock | I better switch to fluxbox for this night |
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| 04:04.40 | bock | so |
| 04:04.45 | teatime | BoChi: I'm having problems with 2.6.1 and my dvd-burner.. any pointers? |
| 04:06.52 | BoChi | bock, 3.2 installs besides 3.1 |
| 04:07.27 | bock | yeeah, but I don't know what gentoo does |
| 04:07.35 | BoChi | teatime, what problems? |
| 04:07.40 | BoChi | bock, gentoo does. |
| 04:07.44 | bock | sometimes it automatically removes the old versions |
| 04:07.46 | bock | ok |
| 04:07.53 | bock | what distro do u use? |
| 04:08.03 | BoChi | gentoo/suse |
| 04:08.25 | bock | hmmm suse was a bitch when it came to compile stuff |
| 04:08.41 | BoChi | nah |
| 04:08.53 | BoChi | you just have to install the -devel packages |
| 04:09.00 | BoChi | and everything werks fine |
| 04:09.33 | bock | hmm enemy territory runs bad under kde |
| 04:09.40 | teatime | BoChi: not sure really.. I'm using it with k3b and the patched cdrtools. basically k3b tells me the burning speed isn't supported and switches to "0x" |
| 04:09.40 | bock | it runs better under gnome/fluxbox |
| 04:10.06 | teatime | I should have a closer look at it.. |
| 04:10.26 | BoChi | teatime, you have updated k3b/cdrtools/dvdrtools to the newest versions? |
| 04:10.47 | BoChi | important for atapi burning |
| 04:10.48 | teatime | BoChi: everything is the latest gentoo offers |
| 04:11.00 | BoChi | ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~arch" |
| 04:11.12 | teatime | yeah |
| 04:12.18 | BoChi | hmm then i dunno, sry |
| 04:12.42 | teatime | thanks anyway :) |
| 04:13.17 | teatime | good to know someone got it working, that means I should too :) |
| 04:13.22 | bock | tetris hat an reiz verloren |
| 04:15.20 | bock | what can I do that my gtk applications look like my desired gtk-theme in kde? |
| 04:15.30 | bock | at moment they look just grey :( |
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| 04:16.39 | Venson | Hey guys, are questions about Konqueror File Manager (kfm) welcome here? |
| 04:16.49 | teatime | yup |
| 04:17.09 | Venson | Ok. Thank you. I need to refresh kfm more often than it does by default. Any way of doing that? |
| 04:17.16 | teatime | F5 |
| 04:17.29 | Venson | Yeah, but is there a better way? Some configuration maybe? |
| 04:17.40 | teatime | it should be automatic |
| 04:17.56 | teatime | the polling timeout is probably hardcoded |
| 04:18.08 | Venson | Ahh...that's too bad. |
| 04:18.14 | teatime | but if FAM or dnotify is available, polling will not be used |
| 04:18.25 | Venson | For eg: if i delete something, it doesn't automatically refresh for a long time |
| 04:18.29 | marcusU | Ugh. teatime said what I was going to say. :-( |
| 04:18.44 | Venson | FAM? dnotify? |
| 04:18.53 | teatime | Venson: is this a local filesystem? |
| 04:18.56 | Venson | Yes |
| 04:19.02 | Venson | teatime: Yes. |
| 04:19.10 | teatime | and a relatively recent KDE version? |
| 04:19.20 | teatime | not 1.1 :) |
| 04:19.24 | Venson | teatime: this is 3.1.14 i'm on. |
| 04:19.29 | Venson | hehe nope! :P |
| 04:19.39 | teatime | ok, this should work |
| 04:20.09 | teatime | Venson: what is "a long time"? |
| 04:20.15 | teatime | seconds? minutes? |
| 04:20.16 | Venson | Nope. Not for me. I manually click on refresh each time. |
| 04:20.23 | Venson | Minutes, i presume. |
| 04:21.04 | teatime | ok. you aren't seeing a timeout misconfiguration, this is a system issue |
| 04:21.24 | Venson | I see. Any clues? |
| 04:21.38 | teatime | kde must be thinking it will be notified and so doesn't poll, but whatever notification feature it thinks is available doesn't deliver |
| 04:22.14 | Venson | teatime: How do i check those things? I'm not quite sure what you're talking about. |
| 04:22.42 | teatime | dnotify is a kernel feature. available on late 2.4 linux kernels (and maybe other systems, dunno) |
| 04:22.50 | teatime | FAM is a daemon |
| 04:22.55 | Venson | ok |
| 04:23.05 | teatime | Venson: what distro are you on? |
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| 04:23.14 | Venson | Fedora Core 1 |
| 04:23.23 | teatime | why am I not surprised... |
| 04:23.32 | Venson | lol...it doesn't work? |
| 04:23.39 | teatime | no idea, never used it |
| 04:23.45 | Venson | Oh, ok. |
| 04:24.11 | ShockValue | i just fired up superkaramba and have liquid weather running.. but how do i get it to stick to my desktop instead of being on top of everything? |
| 04:26.00 | teatime | Venson: if you run a program (say.. kwrite) from a terminal, do you get debug output? |
| 04:26.15 | Venson | lemme check |
| 04:26.22 | teatime | if not, see if you have an app called "kdebugdialog" |
| 04:27.00 | Venson | yes i do |
| 04:27.36 | teatime | Venson: shorter test; paste and run this: ldd `which kwrite` | grep fam |
| 04:28.05 | teatime | if that results in anything, your kde was built to use fam |
| 04:28.29 | Venson | Not really. Nothing showed up. |
| 04:29.51 | teatime | Venson: run kdebugdialog |
| 04:30.05 | Venson | A dialog popped up, teatime |
| 04:30.08 | teatime | if you have it, make sure 7001-7004 is on |
| 04:30.34 | Venson | teatime: yes. those are on |
| 04:31.00 | teatime | then run something from a term and try to figure out if there are anything interesting reported :) |
| 04:31.20 | teatime | for instance, run kwrite and open a filedialog |
| 04:32.07 | Venson | Nothing shows up in my terminal when i do that. |
| 04:32.19 | Venson | Guess there isn't much happening, after all |
| 04:32.52 | teatime | then your binaries has been built without this debug trace "ability" |
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| 04:33.15 | teatime | maybe. I would have thought kdebugdialog could note that. dunno. never tried it without |
| 04:33.30 | teatime | Venson: no idea what else to suggest. have you tried google? :) |
| 04:33.44 | Venson | Ahh...i see. Well, i'll give it up for now. yes i did google before i thought of haunting IRC :) |
| 04:33.59 | Venson | It's not a big pain...but it can be in some ways. |
| 04:34.16 | Venson | Thanks for your time, teatime :) |
| 04:34.24 | Venson | I appreciate it. Take care you guys. I'll bbl. |
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| 04:43.41 | ShockValue | howdy all.. im still havin trouble with JuK.. when i point it at my /Audio directory it bombs out.. |
| 04:44.04 | ShockValue | ive gone through and made sure permissiosn are OK for this user... but im not sure what else to check |
| 04:44.49 | ShockValue | hrm |
| 04:44.58 | ShockValue | actually, i think i see a patern... |
| 04:45.00 | grepper | the /Audio dir is a linux filesystem ? |
| 04:45.21 | ShockValue | its a NFS share.. but when i point it at a diffrent NFS share (same permissions) it works fine |
| 04:47.25 | ShockValue | gonna copy some files locally and point JuK at them.. see if that works |
| 04:50.18 | ShockValue | ok, i think i have it.. when i point JuK to any directory containing FLAC files, it crashes. |
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| 04:53.34 | ShockValue | it appears crashing JuK sometimes takes my whole system down too :D |
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| 05:06.43 | ShockValue | weird.. i have many subdirs of /artist/allbum/*.flac on my mounted nfs drive.. if i point JuK at some of them they work ok. But others dirs i point JuK at crashes the program |
| 05:09.46 | ShockValue | interesting. on the files that DO work.. when i push the play button, nothing happens.. |
| 05:10.35 | etoibmys | ShockValue: Can Juk also be used with movies? |
| 05:10.46 | ShockValue | not to my knowledge |
| 05:12.48 | ShockValue | arg |
| 05:13.22 | etoibmys | And you have to install all of kdemultimedia right? |
| 05:13.38 | ShockValue | yeah... which i wasnt happy about... |
| 05:14.07 | ShockValue | but i guess that depends on your distro too.. i hear debian you can get them seperatly (for some packages) |
| 05:14.56 | etoibmys | Damn. I'm this <-> close to thinking about installing it, but it's either mplayer or try go with xine for movies and use juk (might be overkill). |
| 05:15.23 | marcusU | MPlayer rulez! |
| 05:15.58 | etoibmys | marcusU: Yes, it is quite nice. But I'm brooding. |
| 05:16.25 | marcusU | Brooding? |
| 05:16.50 | etoibmys | Brooding like Darth Vader. |
| 05:17.09 | etoibmys | What is flac? ;P |
| 05:17.20 | marcusU | Free lossless audio codec. |
| 05:17.26 | ShockValue | yeah that |
| 05:17.50 | ShockValue | SAT style: jpg is to mp3, as tiff is to _______ ? :D |
| 05:18.12 | etoibmys | mplayer doesn't support that. Not that there are any flac files... |
| 05:18.21 | ShockValue | i have 7000 of them. |
| 05:18.35 | etoibmys | ShockValue: And that's why you use juk. |
| 05:18.46 | marcusU | etoibmys: My MPlayer supports FLAC. |
| 05:18.47 | ShockValue | thats why I /try/ to use juk :/ |
| 05:18.59 | etoibmys | marcusU: My bad then. |
| 05:19.02 | marcusU | mplayer -ac help | grep flac |
| 05:19.04 | marcusU | flac flac untested Free Lossless Audio Codec [libmpflac] |
| 05:19.22 | marcusU | I can't verify that it *works*, but it's there. |
| 05:19.38 | etoibmys | Anyway I guess I will go with MPlayer... |
| 05:20.00 | ShockValue | mplayer -vc help | grep dvd menus |
| 05:20.10 | ShockValue | dvd menus hah, right. sucker. |
| 05:20.14 | marcusU | I don't think I have dvd menus enabled. |
| 05:20.27 | etoibmys | marcusU: They are not supported. |
| 05:20.31 | ShockValue | thats what mplayer says to me :) |
| 05:20.57 | etoibmys | ShockValue: But Xine couldn't play a movie I can play in MPlayer |
| 05:21.20 | etoibmys | Something about dvdcss I think... |
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| 05:21.36 | ShockValue | damn encrypted dvd's |
| 05:21.39 | jjasonc | hey all |
| 05:21.47 | ShockValue | spoze it was a disney movie eh? :) |
| 05:21.51 | ShockValue | hi jjasonc |
| 05:22.39 | jjasonc | anyone know if konqueror can filter out ads like mozilla? Or maybe a way to limit what domains are allowed? |
| 05:22.59 | ShockValue | jjasonc: thanks for reminding me about that.. i was gonna go look for plugins to do that |
| 05:23.25 | jjasonc | hrhr |
| 05:23.28 | jjasonc | errr hehe |
| 05:23.50 | etoibmys | Excellent, it is all falling into places. |
| 05:24.08 | jjasonc | whats that etoibmys? |
| 05:24.32 | marcusU | jjasonc: What kind of ads? You mean like popups, etc? |
| 05:24.37 | etoibmys | Nothing. |
| 05:24.38 | ShockValue | ya, those |
| 05:25.01 | etoibmys | ShockValue: Popups are done in konqi, I remember. |
| 05:25.11 | jjasonc | ShockValue: if you find a plug-in that does the filtering could you tell me about it as well? |
| 05:25.18 | ShockValue | yep |
| 05:25.26 | jjasonc | ShockValue: thanks |
| 05:25.35 | marcusU | In Konqueror, Settings->Configure Konqueror,, Select Java & JavaScript, go to JavaScript. |
| 05:25.58 | ShockValue | k |
| 05:26.07 | marcusU | Getting "Open new windows" to "Smart" will generally do what you want, I believe. |
| 05:26.12 | marcusU | s/Getting/Setting/ |
| 05:26.32 | ShockValue | ah, smart.. nice.. ill try that out |
| 05:26.46 | ShockValue | ill go hit some porno sites and try it out |
| 05:27.00 | etoibmys | ShockValue: The true test of a good browser. |
| 05:28.44 | ShockValue | hrm.. not too shabby.. it survived ultrapasswords, cracks.am, geocities and angelfire.. i think we have a winner! :D |
| 05:28.59 | jjasonc | marcusU: know of a way to get konquorer to limit general images as well from ad servers? |
| 05:29.23 | etoibmys | jjasonc: No. |
| 05:29.43 | marcusU | jjasonc: I'm not entirely sure what you're talking about. |
| 05:30.06 | etoibmys | jjasonc: Squid can do that with some help I have heard. |
| 05:30.39 | marcusU | If you don't want any images at all in web pages without clicking on them, you can choose that, but that's not very fun. |
| 05:30.58 | ShockValue | grrr.. im trying to look up bugs for JuK on kde.org.. but it wont let me search for "juk" since its too small |
| 05:30.58 | jjasonc | go to slashdot and you will see a random ad image. Mines about something from think.com. I would like to limit that. In mozilla you can right click the image and select 'block images' to never get images from that domain again. aka ads.foo.com |
| 05:31.13 | etoibmys | jjasonc: That's cool. |
| 05:31.44 | jjasonc | ah well. maybe future versions |
| 05:33.22 | jjasonc | can kde run on BSD? |
| 05:34.15 | etoibmys | jjasonc: I believe you can on FreeBSD. But I don't use BSD. Not sure about CVS. |
| 05:35.16 | jjasonc | saw the article on slashdot and was wondering |
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| 05:49.42 | grepper | why is k3b having trouble finding cdrecord executable ? |
| 05:51.41 | marcusU | Which is it? |
| 05:51.46 | marcusU | Where is cdrecord?\ |
| 05:57.07 | grepper | ok, restarted and got rid of the cdrecord setup permissions, working now |
| 05:57.11 | grepper | weird |
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| 06:31.45 | ShockValue | arg, no wonder i cant get sound to work.. arts+kde3.2+alsa1+ is broken |
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| 06:35.05 | journey | does anyone here use synce-kde(for connecting ipaq to linux) and debian? I installed the debian package on my system(sarge). All the documentation refers to using synce-serial-config and synce-serial-start to connect, but those files are nowhere to be found in debian |
| 06:38.19 | jjasonc | so what's the differance between gnome and kde? and how long till they merge (please say soon) |
| 06:41.06 | marcusU | jjasonc: Never, I hope. |
| 06:41.50 | zzztime | jjasonc: never |
| 06:41.54 | zzztime | it can't be done |
| 06:42.34 | zzztime | it would basically mean rewriting gnome or kde or both from the ground up |
| 06:42.55 | marcusU | They have fundamentally-different philosophies about how things should be done in many areas. |
| 06:43.04 | jjasonc | bah |
| 06:43.04 | zzztime | unless you are talking about more superficial things like look-n-feel |
| 06:43.25 | zzztime | that's already being done |
| 06:43.48 | jjasonc | so then we are stuck with two incompatible UIs? |
| 06:43.58 | jjasonc | or can you run both at once? |
| 06:44.04 | zzztime | just two? |
| 06:44.26 | zzztime | count plain X or gnustep or xfce(sp?) |
| 06:44.37 | jjasonc | bah! |
| 06:44.46 | jjasonc | to many options |
| 06:45.13 | zzztime | options doesn't hurt. not having options hurt. |
| 06:45.22 | jjasonc | do any of these UIs have at least a 50% of the poeple? |
| 06:45.47 | zzztime | no, windows has 90+% of all desktops |
| 06:46.03 | jjasonc | I mean for the linux world |
| 06:46.15 | zzztime | why limit ourselves to linux? |
| 06:46.34 | jjasonc | cause thats what I'm using =) |
| 06:47.32 | zzztime | but if you don't care what 90% of all computer users use, why care specifically about other linux users? |
| 06:47.35 | marcusU | The thing is, from what I understand, Windows has several underlying toolkits, and the look-n-feel does vary a bit from generation to generation of Windows app. |
| 06:48.06 | jjasonc | if joe shmo on the street says they are running linux, what can I guess about his desktop UI? Its most likely to be KDE or gnome right? |
| 06:48.44 | zzztime | jjasonc: most likely he's talking about the company server room, but sure.. kde and gnome are by far the largest on linux |
| 06:48.46 | jjasonc | marcusU: in the windows world there is only 1 api to program to. Not many like linux it seems. |
| 06:49.40 | zzztime | jjasonc: only one underlying C api perhaps, but that's not what the programmers are using most of the time |
| 06:49.56 | zzztime | but it all looks the same, sure |
| 06:49.58 | marcusU | I get the impression that people on Windows are using various different api's, even within m$. |
| 06:50.03 | jjasonc | zzztime: true I guess. .net, mfc,... |
| 06:50.34 | jjasonc | so are you all saying I can run gnome and kde on the same machine? |
| 06:50.56 | zzztime | of course |
| 06:51.19 | jjasonc | ahh well, in that case it's moot. |
| 06:51.28 | zzztime | starting both desktops at once is probably not a good idea, but I assume almost all apps should work on either |
| 06:51.47 | zzztime | I |
| 06:52.09 | zzztime | I've had no problems with the (few) gtk apps I run frequently |
| 06:52.21 | jjasonc | as long as I can boot up to kde and if need be run a gnome at without any spiecal setup |
| 06:52.50 | zzztime | should work fine, unless the distro is doing something weird |
| 06:52.52 | jjasonc | err gnome app that is |
| 06:54.28 | marcusU | When I run GNOME as the Window Manager, though, all my KDE fonts become huge for some reason. |
| 06:54.37 | zzztime | night all |
| 06:54.38 | marcusU | GNOME's window manage.... Metacity, I meant. |
| 06:54.53 | jjasonc | night zz |
| 06:55.25 | jjasonc | marcusU: only happens when the WM is running? |
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| 06:56.37 | marcusU | When I run the GNOME display manager and it starts Metacity, and then I run KDE apps, the fonts are different from the way they are when I start kwin via startx. |
| 06:56.57 | jjasonc | well it's getting late. I should head to bed. night all |
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| 07:03.06 | kuru | how do you switch between desktops with the keyboard? |
| 07:04.01 | marcusU | CTRL+ALT+LeftArrow? I dunno. Look at KControl, shortcuts. |
| 07:04.55 | kuru | I can't find 'shortcuts' |
| 07:06.05 | marcusU | You need the tabs in KControl marked Index and Search, go to Search and type shortcuts. |
| 07:06.14 | marcusU | (It's a generally-useful technique) |
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| 07:32.04 | etoibmys | Grrr, QT is ignoring -thread... Bleh. |
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| 08:16.33 | dung | anyone ever use kde and chinese |
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| 10:39.00 | M23 | is there a way to log errors from kmail? |
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| 10:48.38 | nanker | M23 : May be try to start kmail from konsole and see the output |
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| 11:46.41 | edd | where can you get qt designer from |
| 11:47.11 | Worf | edd: is part of qt |
| 11:47.59 | edd | it is?? |
| 11:48.08 | edd | ok what is the command? |
| 11:48.52 | Worf | you mean the name of the binary? "designer" |
| 11:49.05 | edd | thanks |
| 11:49.44 | edd | hey thanks.. thats the first time someone actually gave me a straigh answer on irc |
| 11:51.08 | Worf | you propably asked questions nobody did know the answer, or where the anser was google :-) |
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| 12:09.20 | skalet | I've downloaded "kmess", from what directory do I start it then? Is it "/opt/kde3/bin" ? |
| 12:09.34 | skalet | Got a runable file there named "kmess". |
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| 13:17.32 | rlculver | hi |
| 13:17.54 | rlculver | I am trying to decide on whether to pul the CVS tree for kde 3.2 today or wait for RC1 to be released |
| 13:18.01 | rlculver | what shall I do? |
| 13:18.41 | fake_ | rlculver: when will RC1 release? |
| 13:19.09 | rlculver | well looking at the re;eased shedule - tomorrow / monday |
| 13:19.25 | rlculver | just wondering if any KDE developers are here? |
| 13:19.38 | rlculver | I suppose the CVS will be RC1 already I expect |
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| 13:37.24 | rlculver | any news on kde RC1? |
| 13:37.42 | rlculver | if I was to pull cvs treee today - will that basically br RC1? |
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| 13:38.49 | teatime | rlculver: probably |
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| 13:39.19 | rlculver | okies - cheers |
| 13:39.25 | rlculver | RC1 for Monday? |
| 13:39.29 | dung | anyone use chinese and kde |
| 13:39.39 | dung | i got a 'issue' |
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| 14:09.21 | manchine | has lisa daemon ever worked under kde? |
| 14:10.19 | fake_ | manchine: iirc yes |
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| 14:13.27 | manchine | fake_, iirc? |
| 14:13.56 | fake_ | if i remember correctly = iirc |
| 14:14.25 | manchine | fake_, konqueror always retrieves the same message when i try to browse my lan |
| 14:14.27 | Worf | similar to afaik |
| 14:14.32 | Worf | :-) |
| 14:14.57 | manchine | fake_, it says that lisa is not running |
| 14:15.04 | fake_ | manchine: what says: /etc/init/lisa status ?? |
| 14:15.19 | manchine | fake_, running |
| 14:15.25 | dung | bUng |
| 14:15.32 | manchine | fake_, and correctly configured |
| 14:15.35 | Worf | and "ps aux | grep lisa" ? |
| 14:15.37 | fake_ | try /etc/init/lisa restart |
| 14:16.07 | manchine | service lisa restart |
| 14:16.07 | manchine | Stopping LISa: [ OK ] |
| 14:16.07 | manchine | Starting LISa: [ OK ] |
| 14:16.28 | manchine | clear enough, insn't it? :)) |
| 14:17.16 | manchine | mm |
| 14:17.32 | manchine | it might be a perms problem |
| 14:17.35 | manchine | root 7275 0.0 0.1 3992 780 ? S 15:10 0:00 /usr/bin/lisa --quiet --config=/etc/lisarc |
| 14:17.36 | manchine | root 7294 0.0 0.0 4336 504 pts/2 S 15:19 0:00 grep lisa |
| 14:17.37 | fake_ | manchine: check your lisa-configuration (kcontrol) |
| 14:17.59 | manchine | fake_. i had |
| 14:18.36 | manchine | fake_. perhaps i'll have to assing access to lisa as regular user? |
| 14:19.05 | fake_ | manchine: look in /etc/lisarc, are there all settings correctly written? |
| 14:19.56 | manchine | fake_. i wiil |
| 14:20.09 | manchine | fake_. root cannot access either |
| 14:20.54 | fake_ | manchine: root cannot acces to /etc/lisarc ? |
| 14:21.04 | fake_ | s/acces/access |
| 14:21.30 | manchine | fake_. root cannot browse the lan using lisa |
| 14:21.46 | manchine | fake_. from konqueror |
| 14:22.07 | manchine | fake_. anyways, lisarc seems alright |
| 14:22.14 | fake_ | manchine: hmm.. you use kde with root?? I never did it |
| 14:22.22 | manchine | fake_. only one field left empty |
| 14:22.43 | manchine | fake_. PingNames |
| 14:22.48 | manchine | fake_. PingName |
| 14:23.02 | manchine | fake_. has no value assign |
| 14:23.12 | fake_ | SecondWait = -1 |
| 14:23.12 | fake_ | SearchUsingNmblookup = 1 |
| 14:23.12 | fake_ | DeliverUnnamedHosts = 0 |
| 14:23.12 | fake_ | FirstWait = 30 |
| 14:23.12 | fake_ | MaxPingsAtOnce = 256 |
| 14:23.13 | fake_ | UpdatePeriod = 300 |
| 14:23.15 | fake_ | PingAddresses = 192.168.0.0/255.255.255.0 |
| 14:23.17 | fake_ | AllowedAddresses = 192.168.0.0/255.255.255.0 |
| 14:23.18 | manchine | fake_. not kde as root, obly konqueror |
| 14:23.19 | fake_ | BroadcastNetwork = 192.168.0.255/255.255.255.0 |
| 14:23.21 | fake_ | PingNames = |
| 14:23.38 | fake_ | manchine: thats my lisarc |
| 14:23.49 | manchine | fake_. and mine |
| 14:23.56 | manchine | fake_. :) |
| 14:24.42 | manchine | fake_. acualy, mine is a bit more specific |
| 14:24.49 | manchine | SecondWait = -1 |
| 14:24.50 | manchine | SearchUsingNmblookup = 0 |
| 14:24.50 | manchine | DeliverUnnamedHosts = 0 |
| 14:24.50 | manchine | FirstWait = 30 |
| 14:24.50 | manchine | MaxPingsAtOnce = 256 |
| 14:24.50 | manchine | UpdatePeriod = 300 |
| 14:24.53 | manchine | PingAddresses = 192.168.0.1/255.255.255.0;192.168.0.2/255.255.255.0 |
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| 14:24.55 | manchine | AllowedAddresses = 192.168.0.1/255.255.255.0;192.168.0.2/255.255.255.0; |
| 14:24.57 | manchine | BroadcastNetwork = 192.168.0.1/255.255.255.0; |
| 14:25.00 | manchine | PingNames = |
| 14:25.27 | fake_ | manchine: which version of kde do you use? |
| 14:25.33 | manchine | fake_, but i guess the problem is not here |
| 14:25.40 | manchine | fake_, 3.1.4 |
| 14:27.05 | manchine | fake_, strange |
| 14:27.38 | manchine | fake_, if i type lan:/192.168.0.2 it actualy accesses a remote share |
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| 14:29.30 | fake_ | manchine: and if you type lan:/ you get an error? |
| 14:30.23 | manchine | fake_, yes |
| 14:30.38 | fake_ | manchine: perhaps you have to set hostnames in /etc/hosts |
| 14:30.54 | manchine | fake_, i had already |
| 14:31.26 | fake_ | manchine: hmm... something locked in /etc/hosts.allow or /etc/hosts.deny ?? |
| 14:31.56 | manchine | fake_, i'll check |
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| 14:32.08 | fake_ | manchine: lan:/hostname (hostname of your remoteshare) works? |
| 14:33.01 | manchine | fake_, both files are empty |
| 14:33.50 | manchine | fake_, suggestions? |
| 14:34.12 | fake_ | manchine: lan:/hostname (hostname of your remoteshare) works? |
| 14:35.22 | manchine | fake_, nope |
| 14:35.57 | manchine | fake_, it always redirects to lan:/loaclhost/<remote hostname> |
| 14:36.22 | manchine | fake_, and then says tat lisa does not appear to be running |
| 14:36.32 | manchine | (join #sane |
| 14:36.40 | manchine | sorry |
| 14:36.49 | fake_ | ohh.. your /etc/lisarc is not correct i think |
| 14:37.02 | fake_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:37.07 | fake_ | i think thats not correct |
| 14:37.18 | manchine | fake_, enlight my way ;) |
| 14:37.33 | fake_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:38.10 | fake_ | try my settings, they are correct |
| 14:38.21 | manchine | fake_, but 255.255.255.0 is my subnet mask |
| 14:39.02 | fake_ | hmm.. subnetmask for the whole network, but you entered an ip of 1 host only |
| 14:39.33 | fake_ | I entered 192.168.0.0 = (the last 0 stands for the hole network!!!) thats the difference |
| 14:40.24 | fake_ | if i combine x.x.x.0 with 255.255.255.0 that means 192.168.0.1 - 192.168.0.255 is allowed |
| 14:41.49 | fake_ | you can not apply a netmask of 255.255.255.0 to hostadress I think!! |
| 14:42.55 | manchine | i think the error might be here as well BroadcastNetwork = 192.168.0.1/255.255.255.0; |
| 14:43.15 | manchine | i'll change it to BroadcastNetwork = 192.168.0.255/255.255.255.0; |
| 14:43.45 | fake_ | manchine: yes |
| 14:44.58 | manchine | fake_, no way. i'll try your settings |
| 14:45.28 | fake_ | manchine: yes, it would be safer for the first step, if mine are working you can change it anyway |
| 14:46.10 | fake_ | manchine: don't forget to restart lisa (/etc/init.d/lisa restart) after changing your /etc/lisarc |
| 14:50.03 | manchine | ouff... |
| 14:50.06 | manchine | The lisa daemon does not appear to be running. |
| 14:50.06 | manchine | In order to use the LAN Browser the lisa daemon must be installed and activated by the system administrator. |
| 14:50.23 | manchine | why me, Lord?? |
| 14:50.44 | manchine | i have put your settings |
| 14:50.55 | manchine | restartd the lisa daemon |
| 14:51.06 | manchine | everything seemed alright |
| 14:51.14 | manchine | no way |
| 14:51.24 | fake_ | manchine: you put it directly with an editor in /etc/lisarc? or with kcontrol? |
| 14:51.45 | manchine | fake_, editor |
| 14:52.20 | manchine | fake_, joe, 2b more accurate |
| 14:52.27 | fake_ | manchine: hmm.. different whitespaces could be a problem |
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| 14:52.46 | fake_ | try to change your settings with kcontrol |
| 14:54.00 | manchine | fake_, with your guidance, if u don't bother too much, ok? |
| 14:54.31 | fake_ | manchine: np |
| 14:56.46 | fake_ | manchine: there are only 3 fields to fill out in my lisaonfig (I use kde3.2beta2), i hope it's the same in kde3.1.4?? |
| 14:58.41 | manchine | fake_, not excatly |
| 14:59.04 | manchine | fake_, 3 fields, right |
| 14:59.23 | fake_ | manchine: and 2 checkbuttons? |
| 15:00.23 | manchine | 1st: Send pings (ICMP echo packets) to these adresses: 192.168.0.0/255.255.255.0;? |
| 15:00.57 | manchine | fake_, yes, 2 check buttons. i won't be using smb |
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| 15:01.05 | fake_ | correct |
| 15:01.21 | fake_ | broadcast..: 192.168.0.255/255.255.255.0 |
| 15:01.50 | fake_ | manchine: you just have to fill in the same in all 3 fields |
| 15:01.55 | manchine | 3rd: trusted ip adress? |
| 15:02.09 | fake_ | manchine: trusted 192.168.0.255/255.255.255.0 |
| 15:02.43 | fake_ | manchine: the 2 buttons above the fields are activated |
| 15:03.48 | manchine | fake_, i have nmblookup disabled |
| 15:04.03 | manchine | fake_, coz i won't use any smb server |
| 15:04.13 | fake_ | manchine: ok, should work |
| 15:04.26 | manchine | fake_, just a confirmation |
| 15:04.44 | manchine | fake_, in the first field? |
| 15:04.59 | manchine | fake_, 192.168.0.1/255.255.255.0? |
| 15:05.04 | manchine | or |
| 15:05.09 | fake_ | 192.168.0.0/255.255.255.0 |
| 15:05.12 | manchine | fake_, 192.168.0.0/255.255.255.0? |
| 15:06.12 | manchine | fake_, nope |
| 15:06.16 | fake_ | 192.168.0.0/255.255.255.0 |
| 15:06.55 | manchine | fake_, i quit |
| 15:07.12 | manchine | fake_, lisa really messes me up |
| 15:07.13 | fake_ | manchine: doesn`t work? |
| 15:07.20 | manchine | fake_, nope |
| 15:07.35 | fake_ | manchine: hmm.. |
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| 15:08.04 | fake_ | manchine: which distribution do you use? |
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| 15:16.03 | manchine | fake_, fedora/rh |
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| 15:42.37 | beerfrick | hello |
| 15:42.44 | polkah | is there an anti spam feature in kmail cvs ? (futur 3.2) like mozilla mail one ? and how does it work please ? |
| 15:44.12 | beerfrick | question about the kde 3.2 beta 2 taskbar |
| 15:44.31 | beerfrick | is there a way to control how big the task buttons are? |
| 15:44.42 | beerfrick | with the panel set to 'large' |
| 15:44.53 | beerfrick | I get 3 rows of task buttons |
| 15:45.13 | beerfrick | and I'd like to have 2, or even 1 |
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| 16:03.04 | ds2 | why is 3.2 so much faster when starting any app? |
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| 16:05.08 | moocow_ | ds2, without actually knowing (and just going on a hunch) the code that draws the screen/windows and all that, is faster.. Or so I'd guess. |
| 16:08.44 | beerfrick | any idea how can I make the taskbar buttons taller? |
| 16:08.53 | beerfrick | in 3.2 beta 2? |
| 16:09.12 | beerfrick | with the panel on Large, I got 3 rows of tasks |
| 16:09.28 | beerfrick | I'd like 2 rows like with KDE 3.1.x |
| 16:11.21 | teatime|afk | beerfrick: make kicker slightly smaller.. :) |
| 16:12.40 | beerfrick | lol |
| 16:12.43 | beerfrick | that worked |
| 16:12.51 | beerfrick | 2 pixels down |
| 16:13.22 | beerfrick | thanks |
| 16:13.22 | teatime|afk | np :) |
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| 16:13.22 | beerfrick | any idea if that's controllable? |
| 16:13.27 | teatime|afk | no, I don't think so |
| 16:13.29 | beerfrick | like with a preference or config file |
| 16:13.31 | beerfrick | oh :( |
| 16:13.36 | teatime|afk | unless it attempts to follow font size, dunno |
| 16:14.49 | teatime|afk | that it doesn't do :) |
| 16:15.28 | teatime|afk | funky looking |
| 16:15.40 | beerfrick | I just installed beta 2 yesterday |
| 16:15.45 | beerfrick | it looks pretty nice |
| 16:15.50 | teatime|afk | it is |
| 16:15.58 | beerfrick | but kicker it somewhat unresponsive |
| 16:16.11 | beerfrick | sometimes it freezes when I'm on menus |
| 16:16.21 | beerfrick | and I have to press ESC to "reset" it |
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| 16:32.35 | AxEsLoCkEd | i am using Mandrake 9.1 and on kde 3.1 there is only one button at the taskbar. |
| 16:33.05 | AxEsLoCkEd | how can i set it like as SuSE's or Redhat's One |
| 16:33.15 | AxEsLoCkEd | sorry but i'm a newbie in linux |
| 16:34.52 | Raetea | we don't know what you mean by "like as SuSE's or Redhat's" |
| 16:35.07 | Raetea | you want more icons? |
| 16:35.11 | AxEsLoCkEd | i mean on suse or redhat there are five or six buttons |
| 16:35.13 | AxEsLoCkEd | yes |
| 16:35.22 | AxEsLoCkEd | i want more icons on the task bar. |
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| 16:36.14 | Raetea | AxEsLoCkEd: well, the taskbar is just part of the whole panel which has the icons, which is called kicker |
| 16:36.28 | Raetea | you only have the K icon now? |
| 16:36.37 | AxEsLoCkEd | yes |
| 16:36.44 | AxEsLoCkEd | there is only the kicker. |
| 16:37.06 | AxEsLoCkEd | on suse or redhat there are more like webbrowser control panel . and more |
| 16:38.48 | AxEsLoCkEd | but dont know what to do |
| 16:39.28 | Raetea | right-click select add |
| 16:39.46 | Raetea | then select Application Button |
| 16:40.54 | Raetea | and you can pick icons from the menu |
| 16:40.54 | AxEsLoCkEd | thanks |
| 16:42.49 | AxEsLoCkEd | and there are no items on the desktop too. |
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| 17:10.51 | solus | when I start konsole, it says "Unable to open a suitable terminal device" |
| 17:14.20 | Raetea | do you have a konsole_grantpty? |
| 17:14.25 | Raetea | that needs to be setuid root |
| 17:14.33 | Raetea | to allocate ttys |
| 17:15.09 | solus | how do I check? |
| 17:15.24 | Raetea | ls -l `which konsole_grantpty` |
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| 17:22.29 | Corydon76-home | Have a pretty strange problem. In KSirc, both the mouse-button-down as well as the mouse-button-up actions both trigger a paste... so I get a double paste in KSirc. |
| 17:23.18 | Corydon76-home | The problem appears to be limited to KSirc, not other applications. I looked, but couldn't find any configs that might be incorrect. |
| 17:26.07 | Corydon76-home | You'd suggest using which alternative? |
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| 17:26.13 | JusticeGiraffe | hello |
| 17:26.52 | JusticeGiraffe | where are my web shortcuts stored? I recently moved to a new .kde/ and I want to copy over the ones I had previously |
| 17:27.14 | Corydon76-home | The thing I like about KSirc is that all of my sirc scripts still work. :-) |
| 17:27.38 | Raetea | Corydon76-home: ah, that's an issue then |
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| 17:52.41 | joshua_ | hi, I'm running kde 3.1.3 and having lots of issues with my dual-head system (:0.0 and :0.1). I'd just as soon have KDE not manage :0.1 - is that possible? |
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| 17:59.34 | joshua_ | hrm? |
| 17:59.34 | joshua_ | er |
| 18:02.10 | minuxanov | i did use, am on laptop now ... |
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| 18:08.43 | polkah | Does someone know how I can start Kmail with its icon in the systray and automatically hide kmail window ? |
| 18:09.31 | Triskelios | kmail doesn't have a systray icon |
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| 18:11.12 | ShockValue | hi all.. how do i fix this error in k3b? "cdrdao does not run with root privileges" |
| 18:12.16 | polkah | ShockValue: k3bsetup doesn't do it ? |
| 18:12.38 | polkah | Triskelios: yes, it has. I use kmail cvs (and kde cvs too) |
| 18:12.49 | Triskelios | polkah: oh, sorry |
| 18:13.05 | ShockValue | i made sure it was runnin root:audio.. let me try agin |
| 18:13.11 | polkah | I try with "ksystraycmd --hidden kmail" and it doesn't work :/ |
| 18:13.22 | polkah | the same command work with konqueror |
| 18:13.38 | Triskelios | ShockValue: it has to be setuid root |
| 18:14.36 | ShockValue | Triskelios: how does one do that? ive nver got my head around that issue |
| 18:14.56 | polkah | k3bsetup does that automatically, I think |
| 18:15.19 | ShockValue | oh tehre we go.. re-rad k3bsetup and did it again.. maybe i missed a setting |
| 18:15.39 | Triskelios | ShockValue: the usual way would be to chmod u+s |
| 18:15.49 | ShockValue | no complaints about root priv now.. now if i could just get k3b to work nicely with atapi only :) |
| 18:18.09 | ShockValue | well bummer.. i just got an email back from k3b maintainer.. seems this flac ripping problem is my problem, and not k3b's.. was hoping for the easy answer.. |
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| 18:19.22 | ShockValue | when i rip to any format except flac, it works fine.. but when i rip to flac, it does the first track and then stalls... the first track works nicely, but it just wont do the rest |
| 18:19.34 | ShockValue | any suggestions on what i could try? |
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| 18:22.20 | Triskelios | ShockValue: upgrading the flac libs/encoder? |
| 18:24.03 | ShockValue | they're currently at 1.1.0. ive had this problem since 0.9 |
| 18:24.23 | ShockValue | at least.. thats when i first tried it. at 0.9. i dunno if it worked or not beofre that |
| 18:24.44 | ShockValue | when i use flac from the command line, it works fine |
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| 18:27.36 | ShockValue | hrm.. seems some guy on the forum is having the same issue with Grip. |
| 18:29.19 | ShockValue | is it a problem that i only have a "writer" listed in k3b config and no reader? |
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| 18:33.57 | anders | hi all :) |
| 18:34.36 | minuxanov | hi |
| 18:35.24 | minuxanov | anders: /nick andersnanov ;) |
| 18:35.35 | anders | how deep is the freeze? |
| 18:35.38 | minuxanov | anders: andersanov even |
| 18:35.52 | minuxanov | -36 celcius ;) |
| 18:35.53 | anders | minuxanov: ? |
| 18:36.26 | minuxanov | anov family ;) invented in #kde-devel |
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| 19:01.01 | ds2 | in kde 3.2 how do you configure keybindins such as the shortcuts to desktop 1, 2, 3... and window shading. is it part of khotkeys? |
| 19:01.32 | blacksheep | ds2: kcontrol in Accessiblity |
| 19:02.00 | ds2 | blacksheep: ty |
| 19:02.16 | Roeynov | anders: andenov |
| 19:02.31 | Roeynov | or andanova if you're into that |
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| 19:06.33 | polkah | hi all. Do you know how I can stop artsd starting automatically when kde start ? I disable in in control panel, but it still starts ! I use kde cvs |
| 19:07.09 | richmoore | comment it out in startkde |
| 19:09.38 | puetzk | it shouldn't be in startkde at all... it should get started by kcminit only if it's enabled in the corresponding control center module |
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| 19:13.08 | polkah | puetzk: the problem is, as I said, I totally disabled it in the control center |
| 19:13.56 | polkah | the alone line I found with arts in startkde is "artsshell -q terminate", so it shouldn't start artsd ... I try |
| 19:15.49 | ds2 | another ?: I have a debian cvs build of kde3.2 beta2 I keep getting a passive notification in the top left corner of my screen any time I interact with kwin... how do I stop this? |
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| 19:20.43 | somekool | anyone have geramik install ? does not do much for me.... gtk apps still looks damn ugly |
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| 19:23.43 | Triskelios | somekool: use the gtk theme thingy that uses actual Qt/kde styles. it's on kde-look |
| 19:27.06 | somekool | well i found geramik on kde-look |
| 19:27.17 | somekool | i dont have gnome, maybe thats why |
| 19:28.17 | somekool | gtk-qt theme engine ? |
| 19:28.56 | Triskelios | yeah |
| 19:28.57 | Triskelios | that's it |
| 19:29.21 | anders | i'm still here - just went to eat |
| 19:34.13 | somekool | Triskelios does not work |
| 19:36.54 | Triskelios | somekool: hm? |
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| 19:37.37 | polkah | so, artsd still start with kde ... |
| 19:38.59 | polkah | however, "artsshell -q terminate" in startkde should stop any artsd ... so artsd seems to start because of my user configuration, but I don't find why |
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| 19:57.33 | El_Webmas | Can Kaboodle display subtitles? |
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| 19:58.47 | Triskelios | El_Webmas: kaboodle uses the xine arts plugin for video |
| 19:59.04 | El_Webmas | so how to set up subtitles? |
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| 20:07.15 | Triskelios | El_Webmas: subtitle patches are here --> http://rambo.its.tudelft.nl/~ewald/xine/ |
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| 20:10.57 | El_Webmas | ok Triskelios, thanks. But i want to display subtitles from .sub file over .avi ot .mpeg, not DVD subtitles |
| 20:11.32 | El_Webmas | and I am using Kde 3.2 |
| 20:13.33 | polkah | El_Webmas: I don't know kaboodle but I do it with kmplayer yesterday for the first time, and it works very well (kde 3.2 too) |
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| 20:14.35 | Triskelios | yuck, mplayer |
| 20:15.22 | Sir-Al | mplayer rox |
| 20:16.04 | Triskelios | xine > mplayer |
| 20:16.30 | Sir-Al | you're right, mplayer is better than xine |
| 20:16.52 | Sir-Al | i always tell my friends to stop using xine, and switch to something more advanced |
| 20:17.22 | Sir-Al | mplayer has those cool effects and controls that hide while in full screen |
| 20:18.09 | Triskelios | hah |
| 20:18.46 | Sir-Al | even has variable progressive scan with dvds |
| 20:19.31 | Sir-Al | xine has many problems, especially with the netscape plugin |
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| 20:33.00 | joffer | hi |
| 20:33.06 | joffer | someone alive ? |
| 20:33.09 | joffer | anybody alive :) |
| 20:33.13 | joffer | ? |
| 20:33.28 | Triskelios | uh, yes |
| 20:33.57 | joffer | m |
| 20:34.07 | joffer | kde 3.2tgz slack package + xmms any version |
| 20:34.15 | joffer | when i move the equalizer |
| 20:34.24 | joffer | or just start the equalizer |
| 20:34.28 | joffer | the kde goes down |
| 20:34.35 | joffer | no window decorations ;( |
| 20:34.50 | marcusU | You mean kwin crashes? |
| 20:35.04 | joffer | yep |
| 20:35.10 | joffer | and the xmms goes down |
| 20:35.17 | joffer | but the xmms restarts |
| 20:35.29 | joffer | and 100% CPU usage for 10 - 20 secs |
| 20:36.07 | marcusU | I don't have slack, and I'm not getting that behavior. |
| 20:36.31 | joffer | bad :( |
| 20:37.38 | joffer | marcusU: who can help me :) |
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| 20:39.34 | joffer | bad bad :( |
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| 20:45.49 | Chromakode | hey all |
| 20:46.04 | Chromakode | there's a new channel for kde-look in town |
| 20:46.08 | Chromakode | check out #kdelook |
| 20:55.21 | manchine | The lisa daemon does not appear to be running. |
| 20:55.25 | manchine | In order to use the LAN Browser the lisa daemon must be installed and activated by the system administrator. |
| 20:55.31 | manchine | actualy it is running... |
| 20:56.20 | manchine | do i need to have lisa correctly configured in all boxes to establish a la:/ communication? |
| 20:56.32 | manchine | lan:/ |
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| 21:00.48 | joffer | manchine: write lisa in the konsole |
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| 21:03.31 | ds2 | in my build of kde3.2 b2 I have a passive notification for everythinng that kwin does -- which is really freaking annoying. Any ideas on how to get rid of this? |
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| 21:42.45 | aoiSpe | hi kde people |
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| 21:44.03 | aoiSpe | how do i change processes priorities? |
| 21:44.34 | aoiSpe | any gui way? |
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| 21:46.41 | joffer | ksysguard |
| 21:47.03 | aoiSpe | hey joffer |
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| 21:47.20 | piggz_ | anyone use the 'Univaersal Sidebar'? |
| 21:48.25 | piggz_ | if so, is it possible to get it to display the same sidebar entries as in konqueror, eg news bar and media player etc? |
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| 21:51.48 | rlculver | hi |
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| 21:52.02 | rlculver | I have just trioed to install kdesdk from cvs using kbuild |
| 21:52.13 | rlculver | but it did not work - I have this error : - |
| 21:52.26 | rlculver | Compiling...failed! Check the logfile in /home/frodo/src/kde/log for further information. |
| 21:52.26 | rlculver | uml.moc:247: error: `slotViewToolBar' undeclared (first use this function) |
| 21:52.33 | rlculver | any ideas? |
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| 21:54.31 | annma | rlculver: kdesdk from cvs yeaterday compiled yesterday |
| 21:54.39 | annma | uml, oh |
| 21:54.55 | annma | slotViewToolBar comes with 3.2 I think |
| 21:55.03 | annma | or is obsolete |
| 21:55.27 | annma | what kdelibs, cvs? |
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| 21:56.21 | GoGi | what could be the problem if all widget styles are gone from the control center? |
| 21:56.44 | GoGi | (i installed kde 3.1.5 and then installed qt again) |
| 21:57.42 | rlculver | yep - all cvs |
| 21:57.48 | rlculver | kdelibs compiled and installed fine |
| 21:58.14 | rlculver | kde 3.2 cvs I am using |
| 21:58.28 | rlculver | any ideas how to fix the sdk problem? |
| 21:59.28 | annma | what did the log say? |
| 22:00.51 | rlculver | just gonna look |
| 22:01.29 | annma | usually that sort of error is the slot declared and not implemented or vice versa |
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| 22:03.46 | rlculver | annma : - shall I post it to you in flood? |
| 22:04.03 | annma | just the relevant part, yes |
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| 22:05.57 | Omega | How can I enable notification in the systemtray for when new mail has arrived? This works in Thunderbird/windows, but not for Thunderbird/linux. |
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| 22:07.53 | Dhraakellian | T-bird has a systray icon? |
| 22:09.23 | Omega | No, not an icon. |
| 22:09.26 | Omega | A popup. |
| 22:09.30 | Omega | When you have new mail. |
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| 22:15.51 | etoibmys | Any kde-cvs ebuild users here? |
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| 22:20.53 | AssociateX | Hello people |
| 22:20.59 | AssociateX | what is kdepim for? |
| 22:21.34 | etoibmys | Personal Information Management. IT has email and organiser etc. |
| 22:22.12 | AssociateX | oh, I dont need that probably |
| 22:22.17 | AssociateX | thank you |
| 22:23.59 | Dhraakellian | does anyone know of a relatively easy/hassle-free way to import/export to kmail from Thunderbird? |
| 22:24.26 | etoibmys | Dhraakellian: What mail format does Thunderbird use? |
| 22:24.52 | Dhraakellian | same as Mozilla mail... |
| 22:25.05 | Dhraakellian | a single file for each folder |
| 22:25.16 | Dhraakellian | From what I understand, it's not quite mbox |
| 22:25.35 | etoibmys | Dhraakellian: Hoe did you install kmail? |
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| 22:25.57 | Dhraakellian | came with KDE, I believe |
| 22:26.17 | etoibmys | Dhraakellian: Did you install the whole kdepim package? |
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| 22:27.14 | Dhraakellian | I think I installed all the 3.1.4 packages except for kdeedu |
| 22:27.30 | etoibmys | Dhraakellian: If it is mbox format you can just copy it do your kmail directory (make a backup of the files just incase). |
| 22:27.46 | etoibmys | Dhraakellian: That's if your kmail is mbox format :) |
| 22:27.51 | Dhraakellian | heh |
| 22:28.14 | Dhraakellian | well I'm not sure Mozilla uses real mbox |
| 22:28.44 | Dhraakellian | *shrug* I'm just curious about Kmail and would like to try |
| 22:28.49 | etoibmys | Dhraakellian: Otherwise you can use the converter thingy in kmail if you have it, probably. |
| 22:29.04 | Dhraakellian | I don't believe it imports from Mozilla |
| 22:29.33 | etoibmys | Dhraakellian: That's insane if that's true. |
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| 22:47.58 | riis | hi |
| 22:48.34 | riis | aybody with suggestions for a kde media player (not juk), I would like something with album handling and stuff like that... |
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| 22:49.12 | alexiii | Does anyone have any suggestion of the mouse not showing when not being moved for 3 seconds or anything near that? |
| 22:49.22 | alexiii | Or basically hidden. |
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| 22:56.53 | DirkGently | alexiii: over a konsole window or generally? |
| 22:57.21 | alexiii | generally |
| 22:57.46 | DirkGently | does it reappear when you move it? |
| 22:57.54 | alexiii | not necessary |
| 22:58.00 | alexiii | I more or less want it out of the way |
| 22:58.20 | alexiii | oh, I _want_ this behaviour, it's not what I have now.. |
| 22:58.21 | DirkGently | oh.. you want it to hide? |
| 22:58.35 | DirkGently | lol... ok I understand now |
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| 23:00.25 | DirkGently | alexiii: I don't think it can be done |
| 23:00.46 | DirkGently | only at application level |
| 23:01.35 | alexiii | that's no problem, but I don't want to see the mouse pointer when I start the computer up, preferably when I move it |
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| 23:04.06 | alexiii | Maybe a way to specify where the pointer is to start up? |
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| 23:10.49 | riis | anybody know a good UK channel here on freenode, i want to ask about some hardware sellers.... |
| 23:11.05 | riis | sorry wrong channel, but answer anyway please... |
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