00:00.10 | Rischwa|5r | yeahh :) |
00:00.15 | anders | Isn't that siilar to python? =) |
00:00.20 | teatime | lol |
00:00.23 | anders | Similar, even |
00:01.01 | Rischwa|5r | well it maybe is quite similar to pythons indentation, so ... yes ;) |
00:01.54 | Intellectus | teatime & anders: So there is no way to call binary functions to instantiate KDE objects and build a dialog app?? |
00:02.30 | teatime | anders: isn't there a set of C-bindings? |
00:02.36 | anders | I think so |
00:02.44 | anders | I never tried |
00:02.47 | teatime | then it should be possible, I guess |
00:03.19 | anders | rofl |
00:03.36 | anders | Kbasic? |
00:04.01 | Intellectus | teatime & anders: What is the best IRC channel for real-time assistance while working on integrating a QT-designer front end I write with KDE?? |
00:04.14 | Intellectus | teatime & anders: using full normal OO |
00:04.27 | teatime | Intellectus: #qt or #kde-devel, probably |
00:04.48 | anders | Yea |
00:04.52 | Intellectus | teatime & anders: Thanks.. I want to become a good KDE developer eventually. |
00:04.54 | teatime | Intellectus: what's a designer-frontend, btw? |
00:05.11 | anders | Intellectus: Well, that sounds good :) |
00:05.22 | Intellectus | teatime & anders: It's a Role-based server config utility called, "Server Roller". |
00:06.13 | teatime | Intellectus: good luck :) |
00:06.32 | Intellectus | teatime: I am just building one role at a time.. The ones I know how to do... |
00:06.51 | DexterF | does somebody know an applet to ip-up/ip-down, show txfer rates and stuff? |
00:07.05 | jc | DexterF trafanal |
00:07.13 | jc | well, it's not an applet, sorry |
00:07.29 | DexterF | well, doesnt have to. small app |
00:07.36 | DexterF | "traf anal" - heh. |
00:07.41 | jc | trafanal.sf.net |
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00:07.53 | Rischwa|5r | iptraf? |
00:08.35 | jc | sorry wrong url DexterF |
00:08.43 | jc | http://tetribot.sourceforge.net/index.php?action=trafanal |
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00:15.41 | Cwiiis | Hi - Does anyone know a dcop command I can issue (or just any command would do) that will end any running KDE sessions and shut down (or just end the sessions so I can shut down myself) |
00:18.57 | anders | Dcop kdesktop KDesktop logout |
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00:20.16 | DexterF | where can I get a list of dcop commands anyway? |
00:20.32 | anders | DexterF: Use kdcop or dcop in a terminal |
00:20.33 | Cwiiis | kdcop |
00:20.49 | DexterF | wow |
00:21.07 | Cwiiis | anders - That just brings up the logout dialog though, I want to be able to cleanly shut down kde and save the session when I close my laptop, but just shutting down causes KDE to close all my applications |
00:21.23 | anders | Cwiiis: Yea, I'm not aware of how to forcefully do it |
00:21.40 | Cwiiis | damn :/ That's annoying... |
00:21.44 | Cwiiis | Thanks anyway |
00:21.57 | anders | Cwiiis: But a ordered kde shutdown will allways try tointeract with the user, at least if there is unsaved files in any kde app |
00:23.17 | anders | Cwiiis: Dcop ksmserver ksmserver |
00:23.17 | invisiblegod | its possible to put ximian evolution on kde dock? |
00:23.17 | anders | Cwiiis: There are some more detailled logout methods |
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00:24.21 | teatime | invisiblegod: and by "dock" you mean? |
00:24.44 | anders | invisiblegod: Kstart --help |
00:24.55 | Cwiiis | teatime - system tray |
00:25.00 | invisiblegod | i mean to put the icon in system tray |
00:25.14 | teatime | aha |
00:25.16 | anders | Kstart --tosystray command |
00:25.20 | anders | teatime: :p |
00:25.27 | DexterF | bedtime |
00:25.30 | DexterF | *yawn* |
00:25.33 | DexterF | cu |
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00:25.35 | anders | Lol |
00:25.38 | teatime | I thought all apps with a trayicon ended up in the systray.. :) |
00:25.44 | invisiblegod | anders, i will see what's that |
00:26.13 | anders | invisiblegod: Why not use kontact? |
00:26.27 | anders | Not that it goes into the tray, but it is a kde app |
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00:27.35 | anders | teatime: Want to test mt template plugin for kate? |
00:27.48 | teatime | invisiblegod: 'ksystraycmd' might be worth having a look at too |
00:28.07 | anders | teatime: It now basically works, allthough I have a few more things I want to do with it |
00:28.27 | invisiblegod | anders, i send mozilla to system tray to test and i can remove it because is acting like a kde application |
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00:28.30 | invisiblegod | :S |
00:28.44 | ugarit__ | what's the name of the kde window manager, I want to start it in Xnest? |
00:28.54 | anders | Kwin |
00:28.54 | teatime | invisiblegod: actually, ksystraycmd is probably a better idea :) |
00:29.07 | anders | teatime: I wasn't aware of that |
00:29.13 | anders | teatime: Looks a bit like the same? |
00:29.28 | invisiblegod | teatime,i will google for it |
00:29.30 | teatime | anders: um.. sure. ("mt template"? I'm a bit slow tonight..) |
00:29.40 | teatime | invisiblegod: you might have it installed |
00:29.51 | teatime | anders: not really.. try running both on 'xclock' |
00:30.03 | anders | teatime: Ok, later |
00:30.15 | anders | teatime: "my template plugin" |
00:30.16 | teatime | anders: kstart will actually embed the xclock window in the tray :) |
00:30.24 | teatime | oh!! |
00:30.25 | teatime | lol |
00:30.30 | invisiblegod | teatime, man ksystraycmd No manual entry for ksystraycmd |
00:30.45 | teatime | invisiblegod: that's normal. try with konqueror... ;) |
00:30.59 | teatime | ksystraycmd --help (if you have it) |
00:31.07 | anders | invisiblegod: Ksystraycmd --help for an overview |
00:31.33 | invisiblegod | yeah tks |
00:31.52 | anders | Manual |
00:32.00 | teatime | anders: hehehe |
00:32.17 | anders | teatime: It usually works fine, just not with commands |
00:32.24 | invisiblegod | anders, how can i remove the mozilla that i have do "kstart --to systray mozilla"? |
00:32.26 | invisiblegod | :P |
00:32.35 | teatime | invisiblegod: killall |
00:32.38 | anders | invisiblegod: Shut it down |
00:32.51 | invisiblegod | teatime, LOL |
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00:35.14 | anders | Hm, is there a way to really clean up a source direcory? |
00:35.48 | anders | So only the required files (any data, source, headers and makefile.am's) stays? |
00:36.25 | slacktendo | make realclean |
00:36.26 | Or1on | anybody know how to setup a NFS icon on KDE? nfs is setup and works fine here. Problem is when I click on icon it does mount the directory but konqueror gives an error and doesn't go to the folder. "Malformed URL file:" And then konqueror opens with a blank screen. |
00:36.32 | slacktendo | type: make help |
00:36.38 | slacktendo | to sepossible targets |
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00:37.00 | teatime | anders: make cvs-clean, if it applies |
00:37.21 | slacktendo | What's the deal with moving KMail to the pim package? |
00:37.33 | anders | teatime: There is no CVS directoty in this directory, so that woud be like rm -f * |
00:37.42 | teatime | anders: bad idea then ;) |
00:38.04 | teatime | slacktendo: was probably brought on by kontact - no big deal |
00:38.17 | slacktendo | well i had t install pilot to go with it |
00:38.27 | slacktendo | if im not mistaken that is for palms |
00:38.32 | slacktendo | which i dont own |
00:38.42 | slacktendo | so...extra packages! |
00:38.52 | teatime | slacktendo: no such problem with source. blame your distro ;) |
00:39.53 | teatime | slacktendo: on the other hand, if you wanted kontact, you would have had to install all of kdenetwork if kmail had stayed there - much more packages |
00:41.40 | anders | No rule to make target "help" :( |
00:41.47 | slacktendo | i dont have to do all source software |
00:41.55 | slacktendo | just a thought anders |
00:41.55 | anders | Probably unsermake does not support that |
00:42.02 | Or1on | I'm using "link to application" to work around this. I can't figure out what is wrong :o( I have put mount and konqueror inside command on a "link to application" |
00:42.22 | anders | Or1on: Did you try with devices:/ |
00:42.22 | ugarit__ | when I attempt to run kwin in Xnest I get this: mcop warning: user defined signal handler found for SIG_PIPE, overriding |
00:42.52 | Or1on | anders, it does not come out on the devices list :o( and I have tried to put it in there... |
00:42.56 | anders | ugarit__: Don't worry too much unless it will not work |
00:43.28 | ugarit__ | anders: it doesn't work, wmaker, twm, mwm work |
00:43.34 | anders | Or1on: Is lisa configured? The kde way is using lan:/ actually |
00:44.08 | Or1on | anders, I can mount the folder ok with a mount command with konsole no need for root etc... |
00:44.22 | anders | ugarit__: I dont know to which degree kwin depends on kde running |
00:44.30 | slacktendo | any thoughts on how to close a channel in Ksirc? |
00:44.34 | Or1on | anders, uhm.. I can try running lisa here :o) |
00:44.53 | anders | Or1on: Is there a entry in fstab? |
00:45.33 | Or1on | anders, yes fstab is good. I can run mount directory and it works from fstab |
00:45.54 | anders | Hm |
00:46.05 | teatime | slacktendo: /leave - this bug appeared a week before the release.. :/ |
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00:46.46 | Or1on | fstab: satori:/home/orion/public_html /home/orion/webserver-satori nfs timeo=14,intr,noauto,us 0 0 |
00:47.26 | Or1on | oops.. its user in there.. |
00:47.33 | Or1on | I pasted it wrong :o) |
00:47.35 | anders | slacktendo: Press c-w |
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00:48.41 | slacktendo | wher is that |
00:48.53 | anders | slacktendo: "CTRL + W" |
00:48.56 | slacktendo | oh |
00:49.09 | anders | C-w? |
00:49.25 | slacktendo | uhh no |
00:49.25 | anders | anders: "CTRL + W" |
00:49.25 | slacktendo | didnt work |
00:49.25 | anders | No? |
00:49.29 | anders | Odd, it works here |
00:49.30 | slacktendo | no |
00:49.35 | slacktendo | on ksirc |
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00:49.44 | slacktendo | haha he tried |
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00:49.51 | anders | It worked |
00:49.54 | slacktendo | at least I know you tested it anders |
00:49.56 | slacktendo | haha |
00:50.07 | slacktendo | hmm strange then |
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00:51.03 | anders | I sticked with ksirc since kde 2.0, all the way, ignoring even for a time it crashed if you touched the windwo frame with the mouse ... |
00:51.49 | anders | annma: Would you be interrested in helping me testing my kate file template plugin? |
00:51.50 | George- | er.. |
00:51.53 | George- | t |
00:52.02 | anders | *rofl*, George- |
00:52.09 | spoonyGee | JuK seems to be crashing my computer. |
00:52.12 | spoonyGee | why is this? |
00:52.19 | George- | anders: hey, I like xchat ;) |
00:52.24 | anders | spoonyGee: Do you listen to bad music? |
00:52.24 | George- | anders: it's my client of choice |
00:52.27 | annma | anders: yes :) |
00:52.53 | anders | annma: Ok, I'll try to create a resonably clean package for you |
00:53.02 | ugarit__ | why is kde the only wm which cannot start in Xnest? |
00:53.03 | annma | :) thanks |
00:53.23 | anders | I'm just going to rebuild kate, and confirm that it will still work |
00:53.24 | teatime | ugarit__: kde or kwin? last I tried, kde started fine |
00:53.28 | spoonyGee | anders: yes, but i dont see how that pertains to my computer crashing. |
00:53.43 | anders | spoonyGee: Kde has taste :-0 |
00:54.07 | spoonyGee | mmmm.... shocky. |
00:54.22 | anders | Lol |
00:55.06 | spoonyGee | anders: thanks for responding to my original stupid questiom, i actually needed to appear busy so i didnt have to talk to my dickhead roomate |
00:55.11 | spoonyGee | and now he's gone, so thanks. |
00:55.21 | spoonyGee | and no, juk doesnt crash my computer |
00:55.24 | ugarit__ | Xnest :1 -ac &; kde -display :1 claims that server is already running on display 0!!! |
00:58.14 | teatime | ugarit__: I just tried it with kwin here - no problems |
00:58.28 | teatime | ugarit__: what are you executing with 'kde'? |
00:58.44 | anders | spoonyGee: I'm still here |
00:59.36 | ugarit__ | teatime: ok, I ran kwin -display :1 and nothing happens, except mcop warning: user defined signal handler found for SIG_PIPE, overriding |
01:00.00 | anders | spoonyGee: I'm sorry, I'm not having more than a few music files on my pc, and juk never crashed playing any of them |
01:00.05 | Or1on | anders, I got it to work perfect with the devices applet woooooow.. that took me some time... I still can't get an icon from the desktop to open NFS though |
01:00.30 | anders | spoonyGee: You could go in kde--devel and ask in there, the juk developer is often there |
01:00.47 | anders | Or1on: What did you have to do to get it working? |
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01:01.31 | teatime | ugarit__: no idea, works here |
01:01.47 | teatime | ugarit__: although I run the kde apps from a different user account |
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01:02.48 | Or1on | devices applet its good enough for me! anders I didn't do anything. I just used the devices applet. NFS icon on the desktop is not working here |
01:03.10 | anders | Or1on: Ok then :) |
01:03.16 | Or1on | :o) |
01:03.58 | Or1on | reinhardt theme is sooooo sweeeeet >:o) |
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01:11.35 | gh | anyone having issues with the liquidweather++ theme? |
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01:12.55 | jaalex | a quick question. So where should I look to find clues on why kdm bombs out when starting from xdm on gentoo. My Xserver seems to work but KDM blows up |
01:13.55 | gh | ah thats why |
01:13.57 | anders | annma: Can I dcc or mail a package to you? |
01:14.15 | anders | annma: My kpf server is unavailable untill I figure out to configure it :( |
01:14.15 | annma | mail: annemarie.mahfouf@free.fr |
01:14.26 | grepper | jaalex: check /var/log/kdm.log for one |
01:14.45 | jaalex | grepper there doesn't seem to be anything useful in there |
01:15.15 | grepper | jaalex: how does it "blow up" ? |
01:15.29 | jaalex | grepper I have a working x server |
01:15.38 | jaalex | I can do startx and the basic wm comes up |
01:16.10 | jaalex | but if I try to do a kdm start from xdm I get what looks like the Xserver coming up becuase I see a pointer |
01:16.15 | jaalex | then I just goes away |
01:16.26 | jaalex | then it just goes away |
01:19.29 | jaalex | ah ha. I think I found a clue. I'm getting mtrr errors in my dmessages |
01:19.34 | anders | annma: Ok, it is sent |
01:19.56 | annma | to be run on head? |
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01:20.13 | sk2 | how can i skin gtk/qt? |
01:25.15 | anders | annma: Or 3.2 |
01:25.16 | annma | anders: do I unpack it in kate dir? |
01:25.27 | anders | annma: No, anywhere |
01:25.54 | anders | Just make -f admin/Makefile.common, ./configure, make, make install |
01:26.50 | anders | annma: And all the files you create will be named "untitled" untill I get to agree with cullmann that I can allow setting the name again (but that is a minor inconvenience) |
01:27.19 | annma | ok |
01:28.54 | anders | annma: After you install, you also need to enable the plugin in the kate config dialog, I forgot that |
01:29.06 | annma | ok |
01:30.06 | anders | Uh, the time is 02:30 here.. |
01:30.09 | annma | hmm, automake is not happy |
01:30.19 | anders | No? |
01:30.21 | annma | ok, I'll tell you tomorrow |
01:30.36 | annma | wants COPYING and all |
01:30.36 | anders | I'll stick around a while yet |
01:30.42 | anders | Auch |
01:30.48 | anders | I should add those |
01:30.57 | anders | I use unsermake, so I didn't notice |
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01:31.16 | annma | I'll add some fake |
01:31.28 | anders | Thanks |
01:32.17 | anders | The whole thing should be GPL, but I didn't even get comments in the headers yet I think |
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01:32.34 | anders | Will never happen again, now that I can use templates... |
01:33.00 | annma | ;) yes |
01:35.08 | annma | hmm, plugin found |
01:35.19 | annma | from template -> internet: crash |
01:35.58 | anders | Mh, odd |
01:36.06 | annma | argh, C++ also crashes |
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01:36.16 | annma | it's head |
01:36.18 | anders | Yea, there would be no difference |
01:36.29 | anders | I have up to date kate, and it works here |
01:36.41 | anders | Wonder why |
01:36.51 | annma | seems the lib |
01:37.17 | annma | #2 0x4131c4ec in __pthread_clock_settime () from /lib/i686/libpthread.so.0 |
01:37.17 | annma | #3 0x41486ca8 in __libc_sigaction () from /lib/i686/libc.so.6 |
01:37.17 | annma | #4 0x41508195 in getpwnam_r () from /lib/i686/libc.so.6 |
01:37.18 | annma | #5 0x41507bef in getpwnam () from /lib/i686/libc.so.6 |
01:37.18 | annma | #6 0x41c350f7 in KateFileTemplates::expand(QString const&) () |
01:37.18 | annma | <PROTECTED> |
01:37.19 | annma | #7 0x41c3452f in KateFileTemplates::slotOpenTemplate(KURL const&) () |
01:37.21 | annma | <PROTECTED> |
01:37.23 | annma | #8 0x41c333c0 in KateFileTemplates::slotOpenTemplate(int) () |
01:37.35 | anders | Ah |
01:37.53 | anders | That was not tested here, since I filled out the kde EMail information |
01:37.57 | anders | Interresting |
01:38.04 | anders | I have to test that |
01:38.58 | anders | That is the username stuff |
01:39.16 | annma | everything crashes, yes but it'll be a awesome feature |
01:39.47 | anders | Try the "any file" thing |
01:39.54 | annma | I have to see in the code how you update your menu on the fly after selecting the plugin |
01:39.59 | annma | I tried |
01:40.13 | anders | That will give you a copy of the file, marked unmodified |
01:40.24 | anders | That should not crash? |
01:40.53 | annma | what file should I try? |
01:40.58 | anders | Any |
01:40.59 | annma | what sort? |
01:41.22 | annma | yes, ok that does not crash |
01:41.37 | annma | I tried with a file in templates before |
01:41.37 | anders | Well, any. If you use that, nothing special happens, except you get a copy of the file that has no URL, and is unmodified |
01:41.45 | annma | here it's ok with a text file |
01:42.01 | anders | Yea, but I'll look at getting the getpwnam things to work |
01:42.29 | anders | In the mean time, try filling in your Email information, and try again (in the internet->email kcm module) |
01:42.51 | anders | It prefers to take your realname and email from there |
01:43.07 | annma | ok |
01:44.43 | annma | it was partly filled |
01:45.29 | annma | yes!!!!! |
01:45.35 | anders | Hm, if the plugin does not find your name or email in there (when required) it tries the onther thing |
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01:45.48 | anders | I just need to make that work |
01:45.55 | anders | So you helped a lot allready |
01:45.56 | annma | anders: Internet html document now works!!!!!! |
01:46.03 | anders | annma: Cool |
01:46.13 | anders | annma: It is very simple, but yet nice |
01:46.29 | annma | I just had name and email address filles, I filled the other fields |
01:46.44 | annma | yes!!!!! |
01:46.48 | annma | it's all working |
01:47.05 | anders | annma: I will add a function to turn your own files into templates easily, and later I plan on some more sophisticated features |
01:47.22 | anders | But for now, it is smart enough |
01:47.26 | annma | :) that's very good work, anders |
01:47.31 | anders | Thanks :) |
01:47.46 | anders | I just need to fix that issue with the getpwnam thingie |
01:47.46 | annma | it will be very handy |
01:48.03 | annma | yes but it's nice to have found the fault |
01:48.06 | anders | Now I can sleep peacefully :) |
01:48.13 | annma | :) yes! amazing! |
01:49.20 | anders | Yea, a long time wish for me |
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01:49.59 | annma | especially for all those webpages I have to create on edu.kde.org |
01:50.08 | annma | no more stupid copy/paste |
01:50.10 | anders | You can have %VARIABLE as well, so you can actually fill in any kind of information that you care to export to your environment |
01:50.21 | annma | :) |
01:50.48 | anders | I'm glad you like it :-) |
01:50.57 | annma | I already see all sort of templates |
01:51.21 | anders | Yea, if you ahve some nice, generic ones, mail them to me, and I can add them |
01:51.39 | annma | yes, as I said, i always use kate for everything so it'll be even quicker |
01:51.51 | anders | :-) me too |
01:52.23 | annma | :) |
01:56.47 | anders | Wine |
01:56.50 | anders | Mh |
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02:08.12 | annma | I just made my own template :) |
02:09.26 | anders | annma: Cool :-) |
02:09.56 | annma | this is brilliant |
02:10.06 | anders | annma: If you want it in the menu, put it in KDEHOME/share/apps/kate/plugins/katefiletemplates/templates |
02:10.23 | annma | I install it via the Makefile.am |
02:10.40 | anders | annma: The menu should then update dynamically, no need to restart kate |
02:10.41 | annma | in templates dir, I added it |
02:10.46 | isaacz | humm, has anyone here have konq |
02:10.47 | anders | Ah |
02:10.50 | annma | and make install again |
02:10.55 | isaacz | er konq's menubar disapear |
02:10.57 | isaacz | ? |
02:10.57 | annma | :) I am a pro!!! |
02:11.11 | anders | But it is possible to just put it under your local directory |
02:11.15 | grepper | annma: me too |