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00:10.48ChazCan anyone please help me with ALSA. Ever since I used artsd, it hasn't worked right. I have sound, both as root and user, but I can not adjust the PCM volume. Adjusting it in alsamixer or with amixer has no effect. the PCM channel also has six grey dashes above it in alsamixer. Does anyone have ANY suggestions at all ?
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00:15.49grepperChaz: do you have snd-pcm and snd-mixer-oss modules loaded ?
00:15.54ChazYeah
00:16.24grepperand what have you selected in kcontrol for arts output ?  auto ?  alsa ?
00:16.47ChazI killed and removed artsd.
00:17.07ChazAfter I killed it and found PCM didn't work still, I tried loading artsd again.. artsd sig11d.
00:17.17ChazSo I just removed it.
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00:18.06grepperok, so its just an alsa question then . . .  maybe try #alsa or a general linux channel
00:18.57grepperif you want to try arts again:
00:19.00ChazTried #gentoo and #alsa and #linuxforums and a few channels on other networks, google, forums.gentoo.org, and linuxquestions.org.
00:19.11ChazNo one has been able to help me at all -.-
00:19.34grepperrm -fr ~/.mcop*   /tmp/mcop-$USER/  
00:19.39grepperthe killall artsd
00:19.45grepperthen try to start it again
00:20.19grepperthen if its not working, try selecting something else under the hardware tab for sound in kcontrol
00:20.33grepperie. if it was "auto" try    OSS
00:21.42ChazALSA lib pcm_hw.c:494:(snd_pcm_hw_start) SNDRV_PCM_IOCTL_START failed: Broken pipe
00:22.11ChazThats on starting artsd like you suggested (deleting mcop)
00:22.53grepperand what have you selected in kcontrol for arts output ?  auto ?  alsa ?
00:23.03Chazerm
00:23.07ChazI don't have kcontrol.
00:23.13ChazNot using KDE..
00:23.23grepperah
00:24.10grepperdoes "locate kcmartsrc" find anything ?
00:25.01ChazNope
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00:26.00grepperps aux|grep arts
00:26.05grepperwhat command line is it running with ?
00:26.14grepper(if its runnng at all)
00:26.23Chaz*shrug* I just ran artsd.
00:27.19grepper/usr/bin/artsd -F 10 -S 4096 -a oss -s 60  . . .
00:27.25grepperthat is how mine is running
00:27.44grepperas you see I have selected oss compat layer of alsa
00:28.11grepper-a alsa would be another option I think
00:30.01avila-how can I see what's the qt version i have?
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00:30.43r2d2how can i have kde not save what apps where open, so they do not get opened automatically at startup?
00:31.32grepperavila-: do you have any kde programs installed ?   <any kde app> --version
00:32.06grepperor consult your distro's package manager
00:33.06avila-error: Failed dependencies:
00:33.06avila-<PROTECTED>
00:33.14avila-[root@localhost kde]# kdevelop --version
00:33.14avila-Qt: 3.1.2
00:33.14avila-KDE: 3.1.4-4 Red Hat
00:33.14avila-KDevelop: 2.1.5
00:33.38avila-i'm trying to update qt
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00:33.48avila-but i can't do it...
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00:34.05grepperis that the only package it is complaining about ?
00:34.59grepperif so, remove it
00:35.13avila-[root@localhost kde]# rpm -Uhv qt-3.3.1-0.2.i386.rpm
00:35.13avila-error: Failed dependencies:
00:35.13avila-<PROTECTED>
00:35.13avila-<PROTECTED>
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00:35.39grepperyes, I got the message
00:36.13avila-<grepper> if so, remove it -> remove what?
00:37.54grepperredhat-artwork-0.88-1
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00:39.22grepperwhy are you upgrading qt ?
00:39.33CommodoreAttackI have a question about kppp
00:39.38acesmytheanyone know how to minimize any program (firefox, xmms, xchat, konq, konsol, anything) to the taskbar as an icon?
00:39.49CommodoreAttackhow can I configure it to auto reconnect if the daemon dies/gets killed?
00:40.10CommodoreAttack*unless I tell it to disconnect
00:40.38CommodoreAttackacesmythe: are you familure with windows?
00:41.06acesmytherelitivly, i've used it for 10 years :p
00:41.09acesmythewhat's up?
00:41.11avila-grepper, i'm trying to update kde to version 3.2
00:41.13CommodoreAttackminimizing in my GUI works identically (there is a little - icon in the bar with the program's name)
00:41.29acesmytheoh i'm sorry
00:41.31acesmythe<- duh
00:41.40acesmythesystem tray i mean
00:41.56grepperavila-, then remove any old kde packages that it complains about - like redhat-artwork
00:43.10grepperor through all the qt and kde rpms in one directory, and try to do them all at once
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00:43.19greppers/through/throw
00:44.04avila-grepper, i have all the packages in one directory...
00:44.11avila-but it does not work :/
00:44.16avila-i'll try apt-get
00:44.30CommodoreAttacksorry
00:44.38CommodoreAttacknot quite familure with XChat
00:44.53CommodoreAttackclosed the chan list and it started posting in the chan windows
00:45.19acesmythe:p
00:46.36grepperavila-, so what happens when you rpm -e the redhat-artwork package ?
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00:51.26avila-grepper, [root@localhost kde]# rpm -e redhat-artwork
00:51.26avila-error: Failed dependencies:
00:51.44avila-many dependencies...
00:51.46avila-:/
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00:54.54grepperrpm package management is a headache, you are right to give apt-get a try
00:55.31grepperI've done such large upgrades on mandrake using rpm -Uvh *.rpm , but it is a crossword puzzle :)
00:55.46greppermandrake's urpmi is not bad though
01:04.21avila-grepper [root@localhost kde]# rpm -i qt-3.3.1-0.2.i386.rpm
01:04.21avila-<PROTECTED>
01:04.41avila-damn
01:04.48thiago-U
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01:05.40grepperavila-, you would need to put them all on the command line, with rpm -Fvh *.rpm (or -Uvh)
01:05.41avila-does not work
01:05.47grepperbut its still dicey
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01:06.49avila-i have all the kde 3.2 .rpm files plus qt 3.3 files on /kde directory...
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01:07.41avila-[root@localhost kde]# rpm -Fhv *.rpm
01:07.41avila-error: Failed dependencies:
01:07.42avila-<PROTECTED>
01:08.00avila-this is diferent...
01:08.25grepperyeah, so install the rpm that provides that
01:09.20avila-taglib
01:09.28avila-it's ok
01:09.43avila-Preparing :))
01:11.00avila-[root@localhost kde]# rpm -Fhv *.rpm
01:11.00avila-Preparing...                ########################################### [100%]
01:11.00avila-<PROTECTED>
01:11.03avila-arg!!
01:11.05avila-:(
01:12.03greppermaybe you should upgrade koffice at the same time
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01:13.09grepperkoffice is at 1.3 now
01:14.10avila-where is .rpm of it?
01:14.17avila-ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/koffice-1.3.1
01:14.32avila-at mandrake directory?
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01:15.17avila-koffice-1.3.1-1mdk.i586.rpm -> this will work in fedora, right?
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01:16.57grepperI would look for a fedora package
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01:17.22surrealillusion[anyone here alive?
01:17.57grepperhttp://www.google.com/search?q=koffice%201.3%20fedora&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
01:18.31surrealillusion[i'm trying to figure out why the 1st level of my k menu is missing the white arrows
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01:53.56avila-grepper, kde 3.2 running :) thanks
01:53.58avila-but... i don't see the system tray icons...
01:54.26grepperyou mean you just see blank squares ?
01:54.56avila-hmmm.. for example... kopete is running at tray... but i don't see the icon
01:55.02avila-to call him back
01:55.40surrealillusion[kill the process and run it again
01:55.42grepperyou mean you just see blank squares where the icon should be ?
01:55.50surrealillusion[there are a lot of odd things with kde right now
01:55.59avila-grepper, yes
01:56.01surrealillusion[kobex was supposed to run tray .. but it wouldn't save it
01:56.40grepperavila-, you are sure the install completed ok ?
01:57.29avila-yes
01:57.38avila-there is no errors
01:57.48avila-i've had reboot my system
02:02.43grepperavila-, how about if you choose another icon theme ?
02:04.38grepperavila-, you have the kdeartwork packages installed ?
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02:08.54jjazzHow can I put a "Run command" box on a the panel at the bottom of the screen?
02:09.45avila-grepper, how can I see that?
02:10.02grepperjjazz: r-click panel->add->applet->application launcher
02:10.10jjazzgrepper: thanks
02:10.42grepperjjazz, I think "rpm -qa |grep kdeart"
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02:34.55CommodoreAttackIs there any good FAQs on configureing KPPP so it will auto reconnect if disconnected (unless manually told to disconnect)?
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02:38.56grepperCommodoreAttack, you hunted through all the configuration tabs ?
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02:40.49grepperCommodoreAttack, I don't use kppp so I don't no
02:40.55grepperand please don't message me
02:41.13CommodoreAttackSorry....
02:41.22grepperit pops a tab to the front when I am talking in another channel :)
02:41.59CommodoreAttackI keep forgetting that linux IRC Clients dont work like the windows one (mIRC)
02:42.23grepperwell, its configurable any way you want
02:43.01CommodoreAttackI just have not dived into the linux stuff as much as I should (too many of my apps are windows apps)
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02:52.56pilotgiAnyone know why when you use the equalizer in kaffeine the volume drops down about 50%?
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02:58.14AssociateXhello
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