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00:18.35dpowersis there a way to have konq start up default with different pages in different tabs/
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00:47.32squash_how do i remove KDE ? from root... i'll use it for my normal account... but wanna remove it from root so like root is actually like a command thing... and not a user with GUI ?
00:50.30grepperjust don't log in as root
00:50.39squash_.
00:50.41grepperinto kde that is
00:50.52squash_ok
00:51.22grepperrm -fr /root/.kde
00:51.41greppertho if you like the font's where you use superuser mode
00:51.48grepperyou might want to keep some settings
00:52.52squash_ok
00:53.42squash_will that remove kde from root... or will it just regenerate the file again, when i log in as root again ?
00:54.59squash_and how do i disable coredump ?
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01:09.18thiagohey AssociateX
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01:13.00AssociateXthiago, hello there
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02:14.11blvdeasthow to i setup an icon on the desktop to only appear when a certain device is mounted. ex: have a gnomemeeting icon appear when i plug in my webcam
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02:18.15gramis there any way to turn off favorite icons in konqeror?
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02:22.56ironfroggyive got an email in my kmail (well, kontact) inbox that seems to causing kontact and hang when i try to delete it. what can i do about that?
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02:24.30jorgpironfroggy: figure out what it is and file a bug report
02:25.07ironfroggyshould i just post the email source?
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02:26.00jorgpironfroggy: everything that you think would help debug the issue
02:26.28ironfroggyhmm.. i think it might be a large gentoo mailing list digest.
02:26.50jorgpironfroggy: did you give a few minutes to process it?
02:27.14ironfroggyi am now.
02:27.21ironfroggyif only there werent four of them.
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02:40.59johanhello
02:41.26johancan i get an icon to show up only on one desktop
02:41.39johan???
02:45.19Dhraakellianhmm... transparent (if possible) konqueror window with all toolbars hidden and the windecs hiddin?
02:46.33johancan i put different icon on different desktop
02:46.35johan??
02:48.49Dhraakellianwell, if you can get hide konqueror's statusbar and tabbar for file management
02:49.18Dhraakellianyou could hide the windecs and have a dir open that way
02:49.25Dhraakellianand have that only on one window
02:49.36DhraakellianI'm not sure how you'd get the background the same
02:50.01Dhraakellianmeh... strange ideas.  there might be an easier way, if it's possible.  I wouldn't know
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03:14.00mankind_tweezerhey, does anyone here understand how KDE interacts with fontconfig?  my Konqueror keeps picking ugly bitmap fonts
03:14.22mankind_tweezereven though fontconfig is set up to always return the truetype ones
03:14.43somekoolKDE ROCKS !!!!
03:14.54Trisk[awaay]mankind_tweezer: it is? hm..
03:16.23mankind_tweezerTrisk[awaay]:  it seems to be.  i can run "fc-match helvetica" and it returns FreeSans.ttf, but if i make a little test page that requests Helvetica, konqueror goes and gets my ugly legacy font
03:18.17Renzewhat version of fontconfig? I don't have a fc-match command
03:18.41somekoolsh ./upgrade_system_from_to mandrake gentoo
03:18.47mankind_tweezerfontconfig 2.2.94
03:18.50Trisk[awaay]2.2.90 here has it
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03:18.55Renzeah... 2.2.2 here
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03:19.00Trisk[awaay]never used it before, though
03:19.09Trisk[awaay]hm
03:19.56Trisk[awaay]I wonder if qt's font substitution interacts with fontconfig
03:20.34mankind_tweezerhmmm, i didn't know qt has font substitution
03:21.04mankind_tweezeroh, that thing in qtconfig
03:21.38hyrcanHi...Am I going crazy or can one NOT add a folder through QuantaPlus's interface?
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03:23.07Aniewhen i click in to go to the about kde window and then click in a link, the browser that is opened is konqueror instead of the pre defined browser that i selected, this behave only happens in the kde about windows, cause in other apps like kmail when clicking in a link that is inside a email message then will open the browser i have slected, anyoine knows how to correct this?
03:23.41mankind_tweezerhmm, messing with the font substitution table in qtconfig doesn't seem to help
03:26.55Trisk[awaay]mankind_tweezer: could be a konq issue then...
03:27.05Trisk[awaay]check if there's a bug report
03:28.42mankind_tweezerTrisk[awaay]: i don't see one.  maybe i'll file one
03:29.00Trisk[awaay]I'm asking on #qt...
03:29.14Trisk[awaay]you can also try #kde-devel or the kfm-devel mailing list
03:29.36mankind_tweezerTrisk[awaay]: thanks!
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03:44.47mythois there any way to make all the applications remember their position on the desktop by default?
03:46.12Trisk[awaay]mytho: you could save the current session...
03:46.20Trisk[awaay]otherwise you'd have to do it for each app
03:47.34mythoTrisk[awaay]: thats what I thought. I think that would be a nice feature though
03:49.59mythothe fact that everything starts in the top left corner by default annoys me greatly, especially when all the dialogs show up in the top left corner or my download/kget windows
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03:51.46Tibi]|[how do i reset my window decorations
03:51.52Tibi]|[cuz i did something and it crashed
03:52.06Tibi]|[and now every time it starts it crashes
03:52.49Tibi]|[????
03:54.08somekoolso good to work with KDE
03:54.20Tibi]|[can anyone please help?
03:54.26somekoolmaybe
03:54.48Tibi]|[what file holds the window decorations
03:54.51somekoolthere is a few ways....\
03:54.58Tibi]|[i wanna delete it
03:55.12somekoolfile is ~/.kde/share/config/kwin.......
03:55.17Tibi]|[o ok
03:55.21somekoolor .../share/apps/kwin/...
03:56.01somekoolif you dont mind killing X,... you can just start kcontrol from another manager, like windowmaker
03:56.03Tibi]|[kwin... what?
03:56.07somekoolblockbox or something
03:56.12Tibi]|[o ok
03:56.17Tibi]|[ill do that then
03:56.19Tibi]|[brb
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04:02.13Dhraakellianis there any reason why JuK would be adding doubles of directories
04:02.16Dhraakellian?
04:02.48Dhraakellianone with the specified playlist name
04:02.48Dhraakellianand one with _<album name>
04:02.55Dhraakellianand when I remove the latter, it asks me if I want to remove the actual files as well
04:03.29DhraakellianJuk 2.0.1 (Using KDE 3.2.2)
04:04.58Dhraakellian_Artist - Album, actually
04:05.58Dhraakellianhmm would it have anything to do with the fact that the directory name starts with (year)?
04:10.10somekoolhmm, sorry i dont know, i dont use juk ....
04:10.29somekoolhave look in the bug database if its a known issue ?
04:12.37Dhraakelliannope
04:12.39Dhraakelliannot yet
04:12.48Dhraakellianand I'm not sure what is causing it
04:12.59DhraakellianI only use JuK for tag editing, btw
04:24.42grepperDhraakellian: possibly you have a playlist in the directory ?
04:25.27Dhraakelliangood point
04:25.45Dhraakellianyep
04:26.03Dhraakellianthat is indeed the case
04:26.58Dhraakellianhmm... amarok doesn't seem to double everything in such cases anymore.  (something redeeming about beta3 over beta1)
04:32.35grepperits a feature
04:32.52grepperlets you make sub lists that show up in juk
04:33.15grepperif they are from other apps that have a different behavior, I can see the conflict
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04:53.48sniv_Why is Konqueror so horrible?
04:53.53sniv_It's the worst file browser.
04:54.02sniv_Gnome's spacial nautilus is so superior.
04:54.07grepperall file browsers are horrible
04:54.10sniv_No.
04:54.11sniv_Wrong
04:54.34sniv_Gnome's Spacial Nautilus is sleek and clean and there's no junk in it. It doesn't run like Microsoft Internet Explorer.
04:55.08SnivI run KDE, but I'm really sad that I have to put up with "Konqueror"
04:55.18Snivit's the opposite of elegant minimalism
04:55.32SnivWhy can't I just have a nice solid file browser, that feels like it's my own filesystme?
04:55.35grepperI don't like file browsers, I like nautilas in 2.6 even less
04:55.38SnivKonqueror feels like some web browser shit
04:55.50strawmanSniv: why are you trolling in every chan you join?
04:56.31Snivstrawman: I'm on #Gnome telling them how I'd like to use Gnome because of it's Spacial Nautilus, but there's not enough customization options in Gnome.
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04:56.47SnivAnd I'm on #kde saying I like KDE, but that the file browser is horrible, and it's the reason I wnat to use Gnome.
04:56.56grepperjust turn off what you don't want to use
04:56.58SnivIn KDE, I don't even load Konqueror.
04:57.03SnivI just use Konsole.
04:57.24SnivSadly, all the good things about Gnome are what's missing from KDE
04:57.30Snivand all the good things about KDE are what's missing from Gnome.
04:57.45SnivThe fact that they're two projects is the worst mistake ever.
04:57.47strawmanSniv: well, you need to change your approach. disrespecting the work of others, whether you like or not is immature and you won't be taken seriously
04:58.02Snivstrawman: That's your opinion. I like my approach.
04:58.12SnivNevertheless. You guys need a way better filebrowser on KDE.
04:58.52grepperheh
04:58.55barbarianSniv: i thought you just use konsole
04:58.56strawmanSniv: you're rapidly becoming a side show on this network
04:59.05Snivstrawman: Perfect.
04:59.53SnivKonqueror is a nice web browser.
05:00.12SnivBut I don't want to browse my filesystem and have 48 menu options that are not relevant to the filesystem
05:00.29SnivI don't want to go on my filesystem with a web browser.
05:00.51Hellmarksniv, there are other filebrowsers to use
05:01.03Hellmarkyou arent forced to use konqueror
05:01.11Hellmarkthats just the default
05:01.23SnivHellmark: But I want to use a nice integrated suite..
05:01.24anonobomberSniv, heh there is a html plugin for nautilus if that makes you feel better
05:01.40SnivKonqueror fits into the KDE system much more than another browser would.
05:01.49Snivanonbomber: the key there is *plugin*
05:01.49HellmarkSniv, if you like Gnome better, use it
05:02.02SnivHellmark: No. Gnome's terminal is horrid.
05:02.09SnivHellmark: And you can't customize Gnome.
05:02.12Hellmarkif you dont like any of the others, either make your own or stop bitching
05:02.13anonobomberSniv, you can run konsole in gnome
05:02.16SnivThere's no options in it. It's suck the way it is.
05:02.29Snivanonobomer: I know that. But I don't want to. I like my stuff to be themed the same.
05:02.58SnivAll I want is KDE with Gnome's file browser.