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| 00:02.01 | StevenR | thanks vruz, you've been very patient with me this evening. Thanks again for all you help and advice. |
| 00:02.01 | vruz | and they have to give away source code upon request too |
| 00:02.05 | StevenR | yup |
| 00:02.05 | vruz | don't use just (C) for copyright sign |
| 00:02.09 | vruz | use the full word |
| 00:02.11 | vruz | as well |
| 00:02.13 | vruz | (C) has no legal validity in some places |
| 00:02.13 | StevenR | aye |
| 00:02.16 | StevenR | true |
| 00:02.21 | vruz | oh I'm a geek, I enjoy arcane stuff :-) |
| 00:02.27 | StevenR | i dont have a copyright notice yet |
| 00:02.33 | StevenR | i should probably write one |
| 00:03.51 | vruz | it could read like "StevenR's Crystalcurve is based on the works of Dariuzs, Crystalcurve is Copyright (C) 2004 StevenR" |
| 00:04.27 | vruz | Dariusz stuff is Copyright (c) whenever, Dariusz |
| 00:04.35 | StevenR | i'll paste it somewhere in a min for you to read |
| 00:04.40 | StevenR | if you don;'t mind |
| 00:04.46 | vruz | ok |
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| 00:07.35 | vruz | StevenR, I have to reboot, I'll be back in a few |
| 00:07.39 | StevenR | ok |
| 00:07.45 | vruz | brb |
| 00:07.47 | StevenR | a reboot ? |
| 00:07.50 | StevenR | under linux? |
| 00:07.54 | vruz | I'm on Windows right now |
| 00:07.56 | StevenR | ahhh |
| 00:07.59 | vruz | testing the Kexi port |
| 00:08.06 | vruz | I'm using KDE after all :-) |
| 00:08.07 | StevenR | that'd explain it |
| 00:08.10 | StevenR | :) |
| 00:08.12 | vruz | hehe |
| 00:08.19 | StevenR | c u in a few |
| 00:08.23 | vruz | brb |
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| 00:14.31 | vruz | re |
| 00:15.04 | ck42 | any thoughts on what could have happened to every single icon on the desktop/menus/etc? ...they're gone. |
| 00:15.05 | StevenR | hi |
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| 00:15.23 | StevenR | ck42: did you pick them off and eat them? |
| 00:15.33 | ck42 | StevenR: how'd you guess |
| 00:15.39 | StevenR | right click on desktop |
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| 00:15.47 | StevenR | configure desktop |
| 00:15.56 | ck42 | ja |
| 00:16.06 | StevenR | ck42: then see if show icons on desktop is checked |
| 00:16.39 | vruz | oops |
| 00:16.41 | StevenR | vruz: join #krystal |
| 00:16.45 | vruz | ok |
| 00:16.52 | StevenR | how did you do that vruz |
| 00:16.57 | ck42 | yep |
| 00:16.59 | StevenR | what did you do, more to the point :) |
| 00:17.10 | StevenR | ck42: yep wwhat? |
| 00:17.24 | ck42 | icons checkbox is checked |
| 00:17.24 | vruz | I did: /ctcp StevenR VERSION |
| 00:17.32 | StevenR | ahh |
| 00:17.34 | vruz | albeit using a menu |
| 00:17.35 | StevenR | why? |
| 00:17.37 | StevenR | ahhh |
| 00:17.43 | StevenR | bloody guis! :P |
| 00:17.54 | vruz | just curious, it seems nobody uses ksirc much |
| 00:17.56 | StevenR | make stuff like that too easy |
| 00:18.08 | StevenR | that's cos it's not very good |
| 00:18.15 | StevenR | why? |
| 00:18.22 | vruz | it's qt based, but it's written in perl |
| 00:18.31 | StevenR | not many ppl like it at all |
| 00:18.59 | vruz | perl is good for text parsing, which is suitable for irc stream mangling |
| 00:19.12 | vruz | but maybe it's not the best tool for gui development |
| 00:19.19 | StevenR | ahhh |
| 00:19.27 | StevenR | did you write it? |
| 00:19.36 | vruz | nope, not at all |
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| 00:21.53 | StevenR | ck42: that's very odd |
| 00:22.01 | StevenR | what did you do? |
| 00:22.13 | StevenR | is the paths section correct? |
| 00:23.51 | StevenR | ck42: ? |
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| 00:30.18 | StevenR | teatime? |
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| 00:35.28 | StevenR | Slackware Users take note: The new kde 3.2.3 packages for slack on kde mirrors do not work. They are built with QT 3.3.x, but are distributed with QT3.2.3. So they don't work yet. |
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| 00:36.13 | vruz | oh, good, I didn't start to download Slackware yet |
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| 01:33.59 | asciiwhite | is there any plugin to get kde browser to support mng files ? |
| 01:39.57 | asciiwhite | nm |
| 01:40.01 | asciiwhite | ^^ |
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| 01:57.34 | litage | in kdevelop, openoffice, and other progs, how can i set the mouse scroll wheel to move only 3 lines like in konq, rather than a whole page? |
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| 02:21.30 | anon | kssh is installed but when i use the run command to run it "kssh" it brings up konqurer doing a web search |
| 02:21.38 | anon | what do i need to do |
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| 02:27.15 | anon | ? |
| 02:28.22 | mytho | is there a reason why lisa setup configuration file is hard coded to /etc/lisarc? |
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| 02:30.03 | thiago | mytho: why not? |
| 02:31.27 | mytho | because I don't want application configuration files under /etc, thats what /usr/local/etc is for |
| 02:32.22 | anon | what command do i type to make kssh run? |
| 02:32.39 | mytho | thiago: I would not be supprised if you don't understand what I mean if you have never used bsd unix. |
| 02:32.43 | thiago | mytho: lisa is a system-wide daemon. |
| 02:33.02 | thiago | mytho: but I don't know why it is hardcoded. |
| 02:33.05 | mytho | thiago: yes, but it comes bundled with kde. |
| 02:33.27 | mytho | I think it should use something like $KDEPATH/etc or something |
| 02:35.00 | thiago | $KDEDIRS/etc is not used. It doesn't exist. |
| 02:35.18 | thiago | now, I've just read lisa's source code. It takes a parameter which is the config file's path. |
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| 02:36.22 | mytho | lisa now looks always first for $(HOME)/.lisarc, then for /etc/lisarc |
| 02:36.29 | mytho | thats from lisa -h |
| 02:37.35 | Dhraakellian | hmm... am I the only one who is reminded of pez when looking at the ActiveHeart scrollbars? |
| 02:37.48 | thiago | -c, --config=FILE read this and no other configuration file |
| 02:38.18 | mytho | thiago: if I configure lisa from kcontrol network browsing module, it saves configuration to /etc/lisarc |
| 02:38.21 | thiago | Dhraakellian: That 70's Show's Pez? |
| 02:38.35 | thiago | mytho: that means it's also hardcoded in kcm_lisa |
| 02:38.56 | Dhraakellian | thiago: the candy |
| 02:39.28 | thiago | mytho: send patches to Alexander Neundorf fixing that behaviour. He'll understand. |
| 02:39.57 | mytho | thiago: i'll have to get the sources for it first. is that in kdenetwork? |
| 02:40.25 | thiago | mytho: yes |
| 02:40.32 | thiago | mytho: kdenetwork/lanbrowsing/lisa |
| 02:40.42 | mytho | what about the kcm_lisa? |
| 02:40.53 | thiago | the control center module is in kdenetwork/lanbrowsing/kcmlisa |
| 02:41.33 | mytho | thanks thiago |
| 02:43.38 | vruz | is there something like folder sharing (smb) the way windoze does by right clicking on a folder and selecting "share" context popup menu ? |
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| 02:44.14 | asciiwhite | hello all, ive been making some custom splashes for kde, but now whenever i select a differnt one through control pannel they wont change |
| 02:44.26 | asciiwhite | it keeps staying on a previously made one no matter which theme i try |
| 02:45.06 | asciiwhite | brb |
| 02:45.26 | vruz | maybe the current account doesn't have permissions for the folder where the backgrounds reside ? |
| 02:45.29 | vruz | oh well |
| 02:45.32 | vruz | ask and leave, so nice |
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| 02:46.00 | vruz | asciiwhite, maybe the current account doesn't have permissions for the folder where the backgrounds reside ? |
| 02:46.03 | asciiwhite | hello all by kde splash is borked where does it save the config too |
| 02:46.20 | asciiwhite | vruz, well the thing is that if i select default splash it wont change |
| 02:47.05 | vruz | I don't know what's default in your system, that may vary from distro to distro |
| 02:47.08 | asciiwhite | vruz, and no the themes reside in a folder accessable by the user |
| 02:47.23 | asciiwhite | the themes were created by this user |
| 02:47.30 | vruz | I see |
| 02:47.43 | vruz | then check the permissions of the config files too |
| 02:47.54 | asciiwhite | ok |
| 02:48.10 | asciiwhite | it;s weird because it was working fine yesterday |
| 02:48.52 | vruz | I believe you, you might have changed something inadvertedly |
| 02:49.01 | asciiwhite | and .kde/share/apps/ksplashrc/ has theme set to default but yet it's not loading it |
| 02:49.17 | asciiwhite | sorry |
| 02:49.23 | asciiwhite | .kde/share/config./ |
| 02:49.27 | vruz | check all permissions and configs, but not from the GUI |
| 02:49.57 | asciiwhite | yeah im doing console |
| 02:50.11 | asciiwhite | mmm look like kspash was set to 700 one set |
| 02:50.34 | asciiwhite | brb |
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| 02:52.36 | asciiwhite | ok even if the theme, and set back to default, then reboot x it still loads the theme :) |
| 02:52.43 | asciiwhite | even if i remove the theme |
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| 02:53.43 | asciiwhite | ok let me make that a bit more clear, If i remove the theme from control center, then set it to default and reboot x, it will still load the theme, |
| 02:53.49 | asciiwhite | even though the theme is now removed from control |
| 02:54.39 | asciiwhite | any ideas ? |
| 02:55.23 | Anie | im using kde3.2.2 and its impossible to navigate in konqueror, cause wjen clicking in a link appears a small window asking if want to save to hard disk or open with other browser, in this case firefox is the default, any help to fix this? |
| 02:57.16 | mytho | get rid of firefox :P |
| 02:57.17 | asciiwhite | brb |
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| 02:59.24 | Anie | mytho: so funny |
| 03:00.03 | mytho | Anie: you probably have your mime types set to firefox...change them back to konqueror |
| 03:00.14 | abisen | i am getting continuous error ... on the background of my XFree86 and i am not positive that it is coming . from kdeinit ... how can i resolve it .. |
| 03:00.18 | abisen | QFile::open: No file name specified |
| 03:00.36 | Anie | why should i do that if i want firefox, the problem is not that |
| 03:00.57 | thiago | abisen: find out what program that is coming from. |
| 03:01.10 | abisen | thiago: how do i do that |
| 03:01.21 | thiago | abisen: I don't know. |
| 03:01.28 | abisen | :) |
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| 03:04.09 | GimpKDE | I'm having a time getting Kfind to work properly on Mandrake 10.0 with KDE 2.3.. any one have any knowledge of my problem? It keeps crashing when i try to search.. |
| 03:05.15 | linux_learner | GimpKDE, i think ya mean kde 3.2 |
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| 03:05.46 | asciiwhite | ok does anyone know where ksplash stores its cached images |
| 03:06.03 | thiago | GimpKDE: upgrade |
| 03:06.18 | asciiwhite | because i've got a case of ksplash still loading a deleted theme |
| 03:06.27 | linux_learner | thiago, if he has kde 3.2 he's prettty current |
| 03:06.34 | linux_learner | it would be a config prob |
| 03:06.43 | thiago | linux_learner: 3.2.3 is latest |
| 03:06.48 | linux_learner | i know |
| 03:06.52 | thiago | but if he has a crash, he has to be using the latest. |
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| 03:07.59 | mytho | is there any way to list the hosts in the samba workgroup using smb:/ kio? |
| 03:08.17 | thiago | mytho: yes, go to smb:/ |
| 03:08.40 | thiago | you need kio_smb-libsmb. kio_smbro won't do that. |
| 03:09.04 | mytho | thiago: that'd probably do it, thanks |
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| 03:30.52 | GimpKDE | Hey if i upgrade from 3.2 to 3.2.3 will it keep all my programs and files.. |
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| 03:35.07 | trappist | is there a dcop call to adjust the volume under oss? |
| 03:35.42 | thiago | trappist: I think kmix can do that |
| 03:35.45 | thiago | GimpKDE: yes |
| 03:36.12 | trappist | thiago: I want a dcop call - I'd like to map the knob on my keyboard so I can adjust the volume with it |
| 03:37.17 | thiago | trappist: as I said, I think kmix has one |
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| 03:41.39 | rhavenn | anyone know how to get kopete to save it's window size and settings on exit? |
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| 03:43.17 | trappist | thiago: my bad, right you are |
| 03:44.28 | thiago | rhavenn: it does that automatically for me |
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| 03:47.51 | trappist | hum it doesn't look like kmix's dcop interface allows me to say + or - to the volume - I hafta give it a hard number |
| 03:49.04 | trappist | binding keys to aumix works for turning it up but not down for some reason |
| 03:49.40 | rhavenn | thiago- how about if you don't actually run KDE, just some of the apps? |
| 03:49.55 | thiago | rhavenn: never tried that :-) |
| 03:50.04 | trappist | with down-volume bound to aumix -v -5 and the focus on my irc client I get |
| 03:50.06 | trappist | 5~5~5~5~5~5~ |
| 03:50.11 | trappist | when I try to turn the volume down |
| 03:50.13 | thiago | you could be right, but I don't know |
| 03:50.16 | rhavenn | thiago> :) thanks |
| 03:50.36 | beo | no space between -v and -5 seems to work |
| 03:50.53 | trappist | beo: it works with or without the space on the command line |
| 03:50.59 | beo | doh |
| 03:51.26 | beo | I've had similar keyboard wierdnesses with some of my fluxkeys |
| 03:51.45 | beo | I rarely use KDE apps, but when I do they always try to access my sound card. Is there a central switch somewhere to shut off application sounds? |
| 03:52.50 | trappist | most of your menu entries probably do "soundwrapper appname" |
| 03:53.06 | beo | wasn't using a menu |
| 03:53.40 | beo | actually broke my flux menu and never bothrered to fix it, or reset it |
| 03:53.46 | grepper | trappist: I think decreaseVolume decreases it by about 5% or so |
| 03:53.52 | beo | I use fbrun or terminals mostly |
| 03:54.03 | grepper | same for increaseVolume |
| 03:54.09 | trappist | grepper: doesn't look to be documented (at least where I'm looking) but I'll try that, thanks |
| 03:54.30 | grepper | dcop kmix Mixer0 decreaseVolume 0 |
| 03:54.37 | grepper | for main mixer |
| 03:54.55 | trappist | awesome |
| 03:55.36 | beo | my wireless keyboard's play button became volume down last week, webcam is now play... I wonder what they'll be next week |
| 03:55.41 | grepper | s/main/master |
| 03:56.07 | trappist | ok it's not an issue with the command, it's an issue grabbing the event - using the dcop interface I get the same thing |
| 03:56.22 | trappist | ima bind the keycode to a different event |
| 03:57.40 | mytho | if i have buf variable of string type (c++), how can i append another variable of int type at the end of it? |
| 03:57.55 | mytho | string buf; int i = 5; |
| 03:58.14 | mytho | i can't do buf.append(i); or buf = buf + i; |
| 03:58.27 | trappist | bah I had it working for a sec then it just quit |
| 03:58.35 | mytho | char(i) returns nothing |
| 03:59.50 | trappist | rockin it works |
| 04:00.00 | trappist | eats a little more cpu than I'd like but it works |
| 04:01.27 | grepper | anyone know how I can get kweather to show celcius instead of Fahrenheit ? |
| 04:01.50 | grepper | hard to believe it would be my weather station |
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| 04:14.39 | mobtek | grepper hmm depends on the country perhaps? |
| 04:14.45 | mobtek | I can't see where to change it |
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| 04:15.06 | grepper | mobtek: yeah, should be celcius for Canada - dunno |
| 04:15.30 | grepper | Celsius even |
| 04:15.42 | mobtek | yeah I'd think so |
| 04:15.52 | mobtek | but my weather station doesn't exist atm :P |
| 04:16.04 | mobtek | is it the number you put in or the four letters? |
| 04:16.32 | Arias | how do I change the icons for the trash bin? |
| 04:16.37 | grepper | either I think |
| 04:16.48 | grepper | I put the letters but I think numbers works too |
| 04:17.39 | mobtek | yeah the letters, the numbers are the index |
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| 04:18.55 | grepper | Arias: probably in the x-trash.desktop file |
| 04:21.08 | grepper | or maybe not . . . |
| 04:24.09 | grepper | ~/Desktop/Trash/.directory I guess |
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| 04:40.58 | asciiwhite | hey all |
| 04:41.08 | asciiwhite | can someone tell me where ksplash caches it's image files |
| 04:41.18 | asciiwhite | because i've removed some themes for ksplash and they are still loading |
| 04:42.26 | asciiwhite | well yeah im stuck for ideas :) |
| 04:43.03 | asciiwhite | because ~/.kde/share/conf/kspash says its using default, and control pannel no longer has the theme installed but the theme is still getting loaded no matter which one i choose :) |
| 04:44.19 | litage | when making (in kde) a desktop shortcut that runs a script in a terminal, how can you get back to the prompt after the process finishes? right now, once it ends, the terminal becomes unresponsive and the titlebar says "<Finished> - Shell - appname" |
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| 04:55.36 | asciiwhite | ok this is weird i can even remove ksplash reinstall it and it will still load my old theme |
| 04:55.42 | asciiwhite | anyone here had simular problems with ksplash |
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| 05:01.52 | asciiwhite | anyone here got any suggestions as to why ksplash is b0rked ?? |
| 05:02.55 | Trisk[awaay] | removed ~/.kde/share/apps/ksplash* and ~/.kde/share/config/ksplash*rc? |
| 05:03.14 | asciiwhite | the test screens work, but it wont let me change from a previously deleted! theme |
| 05:03.24 | asciiwhite | every restart it the same old theme no matter which one i choose |
| 05:03.34 | asciiwhite | and the dam theme doesn't even exist anymore in ksplash |
| 05:05.30 | asciiwhite | mmm think i just figured it out brb |
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| 05:56.15 | Borg^Queen | Hey humans |
| 05:56.25 | Borg^Queen | grepper: got a minute? |
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