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| 00:02.50 | suni | hello |
| 00:04.45 | suni | i have a question about samba and konq, is it possible to have samba mounted and have the samba fs accessable transparently? Currently any smbfs file you open can't be saved back onto the smb share? or am i missing something? |
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| 00:17.19 | grepper | suni: you are using libsmbclient ? |
| 00:19.22 | suni | i'm using konq |
| 00:19.57 | grepper | yes, you have libsmbclient installed ? (or whatever your distro calls it) |
| 00:20.13 | suni | absolutely, smbmount works, i can mount shares. |
| 00:20.59 | grepper | that doesn't mean you have libsmbclient installed |
| 00:21.35 | suni | hmm |
| 00:21.36 | NamShub | err anyone else lost plastik after upgrading debian to KDE 3.2.3? |
| 00:21.50 | suni | i don't understand what your getting at grepper. |
| 00:22.29 | suni | i do have those libs installed btw. |
| 00:23.06 | grepper | NamShub: known issue, but I thought it was fixed it the last qt and kdelibs/kdeartwork uploads |
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| 00:23.11 | grepper | suni: ok |
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| 00:23.25 | NamShub | grepper: how to fix? |
| 00:23.30 | TheCoderThatISDa | Hey, I have a question but i dont know if this is possible. I have an old 133 mhz with 64 megs ram sitting beside my real pc, i never use it though. Since X is so resource intensive i was wondering if i could somehow network these two pcs togther so the old pc (64 megs ram in it) can share a little bit of the workload required to run x and it would take 64 megs of my real system. my real system im using now is an Athlon 1700+ with |
| 00:23.54 | suni | when you type smb://share in konqueror, how do you save back to the share? |
| 00:24.20 | grepper | suni: iirc it just worked for me - using libsmbclient that is |
| 00:24.24 | suni | i'm just asking short of putting in a fstab entry (which i don't preper) |
| 00:24.40 | grepper | it didn't used to allow writes, but it does now with libsmbclient |
| 00:24.59 | suni | grepper: how do you mount your smb share? |
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| 00:25.44 | rolltux_lappy | hya everybody |
| 00:25.50 | Triskelios | TheCoderThatISDa: no, you can't, and even if you could, a network connection would be way too slow for interactive use |
| 00:25.50 | suni | hi |
| 00:25.51 | dylan | hos can I get KDE to use my 5.1 surround sound? |
| 00:25.51 | suni | :) |
| 00:26.11 | grepper | suni: I am talking about just doing smb:/ |
| 00:26.12 | ann_out | KDE is only stereo |
| 00:26.13 | rolltux_lappy | hya mephisto are you her e |
| 00:26.18 | xnevermor | Hey. I tried using K3b to burn a Cd but I get the error "Could not start cdrecord". I tried running cdrecord in konsole, and I got the error "bash: /usr/bin/cdrecord: Permission denied". I have run K3bSetup and my user belongs to the group "cdwriter" (the group that owns cdrecord). Any ideas why this happens? Permissions for cdrecord "-rws--x---" |
| 00:26.19 | rolltux_lappy | i am still waiting for your mail |
| 00:26.23 | dylan | ann_out ok thx |
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| 00:27.16 | Triskelios | xnevermor: you have to log back in for group changes to apply |
| 00:27.21 | suni | ugh, people don't read my questions :) |
| 00:27.21 | TheCoderThatISDa | Triskelios: http://www.menet.umn.edu/~kaszeta/unix/xterminal/basicsetup.html |
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| 00:29.35 | Triskelios | TheCoderThatISDa: um, that's not what you were asking |
| 00:29.41 | xnevermor | Triskelios: thanks, I'll try that. |
| 00:29.52 | TheCoderThatISDa | i must have said it wrong sorry : ) |
| 00:30.04 | Triskelios | TheCoderThatISDa: sure, you can run X apps remotely |
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| 00:32.52 | ncolgan | Hey. I'm back. I can now run cdrecord, but when I try to burn w/ K3b, I get the error "cdrecord did not exit cleanly" |
| 00:33.25 | TheCoderThatISDa | HOw long do you think it would take to download the Fedora disk 1 image on dialup? maybe 10 hours? |
| 00:33.48 | roltux-sleep | dont download it |
| 00:34.02 | roltux-sleep | just buy mandrake |
| 00:34.03 | roltux-sleep | or suse |
| 00:34.06 | roltux-sleep | or whatever |
| 00:34.22 | roltux-sleep | those people need a living guys |
| 00:34.24 | roltux-sleep | ehm |
| 00:34.37 | roltux-sleep | i think i am going to bed laters everybody it is too late for me |
| 00:34.58 | roltux-sleep | speaking nonsense |
| 00:40.22 | NamShub | Ok i'll try restarting KDE see if it fixes the broken styles :S |
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| 00:45.53 | NamShub | no good :( |
| 00:46.08 | NamShub | I got Keramik and dotNet back though |
| 00:46.10 | NamShub | no plastik |
| 00:47.59 | TheCoderThatISDa | j;lh |
| 00:48.30 | TheCoderThatISDa | j;lh |
| 00:48.35 | grepper | NamShub: yeah, I heard that too - haven't updated myself |
| 00:48.44 | TheCoderThatISDa | j;lh |
| 00:52.12 | jorgp | hi grepper |
| 00:52.34 | grepper | hey jorgp |
| 00:52.40 | jorgp | how are you today? |
| 00:52.55 | grepper | I've been worse . . . :) |
| 00:53.08 | jorgp | are you using head? |
| 00:53.14 | grepper | I try to |
| 00:53.24 | jorgp | do you use kmail> |
| 00:53.30 | grepper | oh, you mean HEAD - I have an install, yes |
| 00:53.34 | grepper | not using it atm |
| 00:53.40 | grepper | its in /opt/kde33 |
| 00:54.02 | jorgp | I am trying to see if the signing problem is me or a bug |
| 00:54.34 | jorgp | kmail will not sign anything for me plus it never asks for my passphrase |
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| 00:54.58 | grepper | jorgp: I don't use signing, so not going to be much help |
| 00:55.16 | grepper | nothing I email has critical security needs :P |
| 00:55.22 | jorgp | hehe |
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| 00:55.46 | larson9999 | got a simple menudrake question. should the menu that shows up in menudrake match the one that shows in my 'start' button? |
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| 00:56.09 | larson9999 | wait. that's not a kde question. i'll ask in another channel |
| 00:56.24 | jorgp | I think I will post about it in the ml |
| 00:56.34 | jorgp | once I get everything recompiled |
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| 00:56.43 | jorgp | I have switched over to unsermake, I seem to like it |
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| 00:57.51 | grepper | jorgp: yeah, unsermake rocks - especially if you use distcc |
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| 00:58.49 | jorgp | I dont have anything but my pc and laptop |
| 00:59.03 | jorgp | was thinking about loading knoppix on lap |
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| 01:00.40 | jorgp | almost bought it in a linux mag but it was 3.3 and 3.4 is out |
| 01:01.02 | jorgp | and ofcourse on dialup it would take 32 hrs to download the iso |
| 01:01.21 | grepper | jorgp: I made a 60 meg distcc knoppix |
| 01:01.24 | grepper | works great |
| 01:01.45 | grepper | jorgp: does toram |
| 01:02.07 | jorgp | yeah, my lap is a 2.4gig P4, but only has 256Meg ram |
| 01:03.24 | grepper | this will install toram, and I can pop out the cd - its great |
| 01:03.37 | grepper | except the computer died, which is not great :( |
| 01:04.43 | R3ds | anyone know why a printer says "usb printer busy retry" in cups when its doing no jobs |
| 01:08.41 | jorgp | does unsermake work for your kdevelop? |
| 01:09.03 | grepper | jorgp: didn't compile kdevelop yet |
| 01:09.15 | grepper | worked for everything else |
| 01:09.21 | jorgp | dont think unsermake works with it |
| 01:09.32 | jorgp | I also read that it does not work with kdepim |
| 01:10.51 | jorgp | although I have not tried it |
| 01:12.05 | grepper | afair I used it, but in case of a problem I would have just switched and may not remember doing so |
| 01:12.18 | grepper | but pretty sure I used UNSERMAKE for kdepim |
| 01:13.01 | jorgp | I will try it later tonight then |
| 01:13.40 | grepper | hm, there was one I had to switch for I think, now that I remember |
| 01:14.18 | grepper | config.log doesn't seem too helpful in telling you what you used |
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| 01:21.02 | jorgp | ok, kdevelop does work, it just created some dead links that had to be fixed |
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| 01:21.28 | dec0ding | I solved the problem with kde |
| 01:22.53 | jorgp | dec0ding: wish I could |
| 01:23.24 | dec0ding | I almost downgraded to kde 3.1.4 because some of you told me to. Thinking that he (you) knows something just causing confusion is not helpping people. better check twice and then try to help. Oh yes, the banning of the users that change their nick to nick*away* or something is more important, yeah? cu |
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| 01:23.56 | dec0ding | rofl!!!! sorry |
| 01:24.00 | dec0ding | that was for #slackware |
| 01:24.03 | dec0ding | :))) |
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| 01:54.37 | bjohnson | I used to be able to use fish in konqueror to open a file in kwrite and it would save to the source when I hit save .. now it only does that when I exit kwrite |
| 01:54.51 | bjohnson | is there an option I can set to save to the remote source when I hit save? |
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| 01:55.21 | ados | How do I get konqueror to remember my "Open with.." choices? |
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| 01:55.46 | pureFlamez | does anyone know how i can reinstall konqueror? or upgrade it? |
| 01:56.07 | ados | pureFlamez, you do that by installing another version of kde |
| 01:56.22 | ados | pureFlamez, how you do that depends on your linux distro |
| 01:57.36 | ados | I tried creating a file association for "*.torrent" files, but konqueror just ignores the extension as handles the file as text/plain |
| 01:57.43 | ados | is anybody here? |
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| 01:57.48 | pureFlamez | o |
| 01:58.22 | bjohnson | I used to be able to use fish in konqueror to open a file in kwrite and it would save to the source when I hit save .. now it only does that when I exit kwrite |
| 01:58.24 | bjohnson | is there an option I can set to save to the remote source when I hit save? |
| 01:58.30 | lilachaze | ados: it's probably that it's getting the mime type from the (HTTP, probably?) server as text/plain, and ignoring your association. does it work for local files? |
| 01:59.20 | ados | lilachaze: that was my guess too, how do I change that? let me try with a local file |
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| 02:00.42 | ados | lilachaze, yeah, works with local .torrent files |
| 02:02.01 | lilachaze | hmm. i'm not sure what you can do about that, unfortunately. in short, the HTTP server is sending the wrong MIME type (should be application/x-bittorrent), so you could ask them to fix that. |
| 02:02.07 | ados | btw, when I once hit "don't ask again" in a konqueror dialog box, how do I change that back again? |
| 02:02.21 | Dhraakellian | settling an argument with some friends before it gets ugly: Does KDE always have KHTML loaded? |
| 02:02.36 | lilachaze | ados: good question. it's in a config file somewhere :) |
| 02:02.59 | lilachaze | Dhraakellian: it depends what the question means, i'm afraid. here's a more complete answer: |
| 02:03.29 | lilachaze | Dhraakellian: you can run KDE applications (and the KDE desktop) without ever loading KHTML at all. |
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| 02:03.34 | asciiwhite | hey all |
| 02:03.43 | asciiwhite | anyone here familuar with bootsplash ? |
| 02:04.04 | Dhraakellian | so it doesn't automatically get loaded with KDE unless you have Konqueror in a saved session? |
| 02:04.06 | lilachaze | Dhraakellian: but you may like to (and KDE does by default these days) _preload_ an instance of Konqueror or two, increasing the perceived startup time fo Konqueror |
| 02:04.47 | lilachaze | Dhraakellian: I'm not sure whether preloading konqueror causes KHTML to be loaded (since KHTML is just one of many parts that Konqueror can display), but it certainly might. |
| 02:04.47 | Dhraakellian | hmm |
| 02:05.03 | Dhraakellian | preloads Konqueror, eh? |
| 02:05.03 | lilachaze | so the answer is, i guess, "you don't have to, but you might want to" |
| 02:05.19 | Dhraakellian | how do I disable that? (I happen to use FireFox most of the time |
| 02:05.21 | Dhraakellian | ) |
| 02:05.57 | asciiwhite | I've created a bootsplash theme, and i cant seem to get the animation to load on my debian setup, anyone here willing to test my theme ? |
| 02:06.10 | lilachaze | Configure Konqueror -> Performance -> Preload an instance ... |
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| 02:11.58 | bjohnson | there don't seem to be any config options for fish behavior |
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| 02:40.22 | FlipmodePlaya | Yo. I'm trying to get amaroK configured, and using arts it will play music, but no sound will come out. I'm having problems getting it to recognize alsa, or gstreamer, or anything else. Their IRC channel doesn't seem to be working, so I thought I'd ask y'all for help. |
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| 02:42.24 | Borg^Queen | Hey people |
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| 02:57.15 | Unfrgiven | hey all. im having a problem with my kde apps. there doesn't seem to be any fonts. menus/dialogs/buttons are empty. any ideas? im using Debian sid and it started happening when i moved from using xfs to xfs-xtt. but gnome apps are totally fine. |
| 02:59.15 | asciiwhite | I've created a bootsplash theme, and i cant seem to get the animation to load on my debian setup, anyone here willing to test my theme ? |
| 03:03.05 | mxcl | FlipmodePlaya: what's wrong with our irc channel? |
| 03:03.22 | mxcl | FlipmodePlaya: I'm in there at least :) |
| 03:03.39 | mxcl | FlipmodePlaya: try killall -9 artsd && amarok |
| 03:03.42 | mxcl | usually works |
| 03:03.44 | FlipmodePlaya | I added it as a buddy in Gaim and it doesn't show up :( |
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| 03:04.26 | mxcl | join #amarok |
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| 03:05.19 | FlipmodePlaya | I just tried and it didn't work. |
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| 03:05.50 | mxcl | noatun, juk work? |
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| 03:07.13 | FlipmodePlaya | I've used Zinf, Rhythmbox, Kaffeine, Xine, and others, let me try Juk real quick. |
| 03:07.38 | mxcl | yeah but none of those use aRts |
| 03:07.44 | FlipmodePlaya | When I used the command you gave me all other sounds topped. |
| 03:07.57 | FlipmodePlaya | Oooh, now amaroK works, though! |
| 03:07.58 | mxcl | they channel through artsd but don't decode with it |
| 03:08.10 | mxcl | aah so it did work, you just didn't test |
| 03:08.27 | FlipmodePlaya | I was speaking of the IRC channel. |
| 03:09.09 | mxcl | so amaroK doesn't work but #amarok does? |
| 03:09.37 | FlipmodePlaya | The IRC channel doesn't, which is what I was talking about, but the player works now. |
| 03:09.47 | FlipmodePlaya | So, thank you :) |
| 03:09.59 | mxcl | heh right :) |
| 03:10.01 | mxcl | np |
| 03:10.08 | mxcl | we need to put that one in the FAQ |
| 03:10.26 | mxcl | http://amarok.kde.org/component/option,com_staticxt/staticfile,faq.html#id242055 |
| 03:10.34 | mxcl | that FAQ will help you make aRts sound better |
| 03:11.15 | FlipmodePlaya | Should amaroK stop everything else from making sounds when it's playing? I've noticed certain apps do that... |
| 03:11.28 | mxcl | nope |
| 03:11.56 | mxcl | if it does, come to #amarok and we'll sort it out, but it should allow other KDE stuff to work |
| 03:12.07 | grepper | mxcl: that artswrapper hack works much better for me than gstreamer |
| 03:12.15 | mxcl | and some other programs |
| 03:12.22 | FlipmodePlaya | It do, but I can't get into that channel, still. |
| 03:12.25 | mxcl | grepper: heh, well gst is technically superior IMO |
| 03:12.35 | mxcl | but I spose they have some work still to do ;) |
| 03:12.35 | grepper | gstreamer is sensitive to cpu spikes, but arts works great (with that hack) |
| 03:12.48 | grepper | may be my sound card, or just processing power, dunno |
| 03:12.55 | mxcl | FlipmodePlaya: try a different irc client, the channel is there |
| 03:13.02 | mxcl | /join #amarok |
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| 03:13.06 | FlipmodePlaya | Yah, I'm surprised at how much the amaroK site plugs Gstreamer, seing as how it's a KDE app and all... |
| 03:13.22 | mxcl | gstreamer isn't a gnome technology |
| 03:13.26 | Reeb|zor | hey how do i turn off the audio cd browser in konqueror??? |
| 03:13.35 | mxcl | and KDE will probably (not decided) use GST in KDE 4 |
| 03:13.39 | FlipmodePlaya | Oh, no? The naming convention just threw me off, then. |
| 03:13.45 | mxcl | GNU |
| 03:13.53 | grepper | they also told me there is no way to use a similar hack with gstreamer, and had no desire to |
| 03:14.00 | mxcl | G doesn't stand for Gnome, like K is for KDE |
| 03:14.11 | grepper | so gstreamer is out for me |
| 03:14.15 | mxcl | well it is a bit of a hack really |
| 03:14.30 | Reeb|zor | can anyone help me? |
| 03:14.33 | mxcl | ideally you don't want to have to make it realtime |
| 03:14.55 | mxcl | Reeb|zor: turn it off? What do you mean? |
| 03:15.23 | grepper | mxcl: I find it strange, that using a 2.6.5 kernel, with mm1 patches as well, that this is a problem |
| 03:15.26 | Reeb|zor | well when i open up the home dir in konq (which is rare) it does this audio cd browser thing |
| 03:15.47 | Reeb|zor | i have a slow comp and it makes me lagg like heck, and then i get frustrated |
| 03:15.51 | mxcl | Reeb|zor: can't help, never does it for me |
| 03:15.57 | Reeb|zor | oh |
| 03:16.21 | FlipmodePlaya | Do you have 'home' set to be the audio browser, or something? |
| 03:16.21 | jorgp | heh, looks like 2.6.7 is out |
| 03:16.35 | mxcl | jorgp: I get compile errors |
| 03:16.44 | mxcl | well to be exact the errors seem deliberate |
| 03:16.47 | Reeb|zor | no, it just started doing it when i installed 3.2.2 |
| 03:17.18 | jorgp | mxcl: don't know yet, still using 2.6.5 |
| 03:19.05 | mxcl | bbl |
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| 03:29.16 | houn | Sup #kde |
| 03:29.28 | houn | Question: a way to alter the default names given to new sessions in Konsole? |
| 03:33.10 | houn | I know you can rename them, but what about changing the default naming scheme, so that maybe instead of Shell, Shell No. 2, etc maybe just 1, 2, 3? |
| 03:33.20 | houn | Or is that gonna be hard-coded? |
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| 03:36.13 | houn | Ok then. |
| 03:36.32 | grepper | houn: I think you can, yes |
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| 03:38.59 | houn | grepper: Hmm. How is the question, heh |
| 03:39.15 | houn | It's really quite a pointless project, but for some reason, I'm stuck on it right now, lol |
| 03:40.37 | grepper | houn: dunno, fool around with the sessions I guess in the config |
| 03:40.41 | grepper | maybe there isn't |
| 03:41.19 | grepper | or try changing Name= in shell.desktop |
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| 03:44.09 | houn | No effect, heh |
| 03:44.26 | houn | Oh well, no biggie. Thanks though |
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| 03:45.00 | grepper | actually, it works :) |
| 03:45.17 | grepper | just need to start a new konsole |
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| 04:07.10 | Bedlore | hello all |
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| 04:08.19 | Bedlore | anyone installed on Debian / testing here? |
| 04:19.21 | Bedlore | anyone had any joy getting a Radeon 9600 XT to work |
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| 04:36.17 | Dhraakellian | hmm... gtk-qt .41 seems to be nifty |
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| 04:47.42 | Vixtro | yikes |
| 04:47.58 | Vixtro | why is kde 3.1 - 3.2 so shiny |
| 04:48.06 | Vixtro | doesn't that get on people's nerves? |
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| 05:11.03 | Reeb|zor | hey how do i turn off the audio cd browser in konqueror??? |
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| 05:33.23 | ya | yo |
| 05:34.08 | ya | i can run mp3 and ogg with JuK but i can only play ogg with bmp.. how come? |
| 05:34.44 | Triskelios | ya: beep isn't a kde app, so you'll have to ask them |
| 05:35.09 | ya | but i think it's kde issue :) |
| 05:35.25 | Triskelios | how? |
| 05:35.35 | ya | because i used to have the same problem with JuK |
| 05:35.42 | ya | only playing .ogg |
| 05:35.45 | Triskelios | beep uses its own plugins, not arts |
| 05:36.49 | ya | well i dont know, it's very strange |
| 05:36.49 | ya | ._. |
| 05:37.34 | Triskelios | think you're missing plugins or something... if its a binary package they could've been left out intentionally |
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| 06:08.26 | chitiri | what have kde to graphically setup networking (ip, dns, etc...) |
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| 06:11.02 | grepper | chitiri: nothing in kde proper |
| 06:11.25 | grepper | but check kde-apps.org |
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| 06:13.47 | Bedlore | where can I get help getting KDE to run on Debian with a ATI9600 card? |
| 06:16.11 | grepper | try #debian-kde or #debian |
| 06:16.31 | grepper | since it is not a kde issue really |
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| 06:22.09 | ncolgan | Hey. How do I get other sounds to play over the music that's playing in XMMS? Currently no sounds will play if a song is playing in XMMS. |
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| 06:28.36 | chitiri | ncolgan: you can use a sound server |
| 06:28.43 | baard | Is there a way to dissable all 'eyecandy' with dcop or something? It would be nice to do that when I'm using NX remotedesktop over a slow link :) |
| 06:28.50 | chitiri | ncolgan: or alsa dmix if you're running a 2.6 linux |
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| 06:55.33 | Triskelios | eh |
| 06:55.40 | Triskelios | ksirc doesn't show channel parts? |
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