| 00:01.54 | cpu1333mhz | wow, it appears to be working perfect now |
| 00:02.11 | cpu1333mhz | thats so wierd |
| 00:02.20 | cpu1333mhz | why you framebufffer affect that? |
| 00:02.29 | cpu1333mhz | why yould* framebufffer affect that? |
| 00:02.39 | cpu1333mhz | bah you know what i meant :/ |
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| 00:04.11 | cpu1333mhz | well, thank you very much |
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| 00:04.33 | cpu1333mhz | im gonna continue with some testing to make sure that the problem still exists with framebuffer on |
| 00:04.38 | cpu1333mhz | that is so strange |
| 00:05.04 | cpu1333mhz | hmm i really like framebuffer and dont want to give it up @_@ |
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| 00:07.26 | geoaxis | cpu1333mhz, what framebuffer u have exactly |
| 00:07.34 | geoaxis | is it nvidia or vesa? |
| 00:08.18 | cpu1333mhz | geoaxis: yesa i think |
| 00:08.22 | cpu1333mhz | vesa* |
| 00:09.02 | geoaxis | well every thing is ok with me ..expect what puzzles my why doesnt it happen in fluxbox |
| 00:09.10 | cpu1333mhz | in my grub startup flags i have vga=775 |
| 00:09.33 | cpu1333mhz | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:09.47 | geoaxis | yeah me too |
| 00:09.48 | cpu1333mhz | thats what puzzles me: why it doesnt happen in flux box |
| 00:09.55 | geoaxis | u must be running xorg too |
| 00:10.04 | cpu1333mhz | XF86 |
| 00:10.12 | geoaxis | hmm |
| 00:10.16 | geoaxis | well i have xorg |
| 00:10.32 | cpu1333mhz | did you "emerge X" |
| 00:10.33 | cpu1333mhz | ? |
| 00:10.44 | geoaxis | yes |
| 00:10.50 | geoaxis | it is default x server now |
| 00:10.58 | cpu1333mhz | thats what i did |
| 00:11.01 | cpu1333mhz | "emerge X" |
| 00:11.10 | cpu1333mhz | but i think i got XF86 not xorg |
| 00:11.12 | geoaxis | when |
| 00:11.32 | cpu1333mhz | after getting thru the entire gentoo installaion guide i emerged X |
| 00:11.34 | cpu1333mhz | then kde |
| 00:11.40 | cpu1333mhz | then gnome even tho i dont use it |
| 00:11.45 | geoaxis | i meant like how long ago |
| 00:11.51 | cpu1333mhz | oh |
| 00:11.57 | cpu1333mhz | around 3 months ago |
| 00:12.03 | cpu1333mhz | i recently did emerge world |
| 00:12.10 | geoaxis | well xorg just became default a month ago |
| 00:12.17 | cpu1333mhz | ah |
| 00:12.23 | cpu1333mhz | so maybe i should remerge X? |
| 00:12.27 | geoaxis | u can just do an unemerge xfree |
| 00:12.32 | geoaxis | and emerge xorg |
| 00:12.41 | geoaxis | but caution it mite not be best for u |
| 00:12.49 | cpu1333mhz | i will probably do that overnight |
| 00:12.54 | geoaxis | wait till end of august when xorg releses another version |
| 00:13.01 | cpu1333mhz | k i will |
| 00:13.08 | cpu1333mhz | whats srong with the current/ |
| 00:13.09 | cpu1333mhz | ? |
| 00:13.17 | geoaxis | nothing really |
| 00:13.20 | geoaxis | its a clone |
| 00:13.30 | geoaxis | but the august version wil be improved |
| 00:13.59 | cpu1333mhz | hmm come to think of it im currently having some troubles |
| 00:14.01 | cpu1333mhz | ~.~ |
| 00:14.09 | cpu1333mhz | i was doing emerge world |
| 00:14.13 | cpu1333mhz | yestarday |
| 00:14.44 | cpu1333mhz | nad a big part of it was the new kde 3.2.3 |
| 00:15.04 | cpu1333mhz | so i was using fluxbox, running knqueror in it while emerging world |
| 00:15.16 | cpu1333mhz | then the entire system hangs |
| 00:15.17 | geoaxis | i am running 2.3 its the same probelm with framebuffer and opengl apps |
| 00:15.44 | geoaxis | well u should not be running any thing u r also emering |
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| 00:16.17 | cpu1333mhz | yhea i guess not... but then what would be the point if the NICE for portage? |
| 00:16.30 | cpu1333mhz | yhea i guess not... but then what would be the point for* the NICE for portage? |
| 00:17.20 | cpu1333mhz | anyway so i dont think it cleanly installed the new KDE version because how i have kde 3.2.2 and 3.2.3 in the session in the login screen |
| 00:17.47 | geoaxis | well portage mainterners dont know every nut and bolt of programs ..especially a big beats like kde |
| 00:18.09 | cpu1333mhz | and now when i try to emerge world it fails at some component of gnome |
| 00:18.09 | geoaxis | no one knows what made it hang ..but genrally i dont do emerges inside xserver |
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| 00:18.54 | geoaxis | cpu1333mhz, have a -o2 flag and dont use "~x86" and then see waht happens |
| 00:18.56 | cpu1333mhz | oh i didnt do the emerge in xserver |
| 00:19.11 | cpu1333mhz | i did it in vitrual terminal 1 |
| 00:19.18 | cpu1333mhz | but it hung the entire system |
| 00:19.27 | cpu1333mhz | couldnt even switch to the virtual terminal |
| 00:19.35 | cpu1333mhz | couldnt even turn caps lock on an off O.o |
| 00:19.37 | geoaxis | i think u had arts enabled |
| 00:19.43 | cpu1333mhz | yes |
| 00:19.59 | cpu1333mhz | i have an -o3 flag and i dont use "~x86" |
| 00:20.11 | geoaxis | thats a hard lock ..i get those alot ..but just casue i have some of my own drivers running |
| 00:20.41 | geoaxis | well if u wana report a bug u need it to be -o2 and shouls not be masked |
| 00:20.52 | geoaxis | should not* |
| 00:22.22 | cpu1333mhz | i think im just gonna remove gnome @_@ ive never liked it |
| 00:23.48 | cpu1333mhz | i dont accept ~x86 i only accept x86 |
| 00:24.28 | cpu1333mhz | hmm i wonder if -O3 woudl be the cause.. compiling takes so long @_@ |
| 00:24.53 | teatime | cpu1333mhz: yes |
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| 00:25.03 | teatime | it certainly takes more time than -02 does |
| 00:25.23 | teatime | and the benefit is marginal, if any |
| 00:25.27 | geoaxis | well -03 makes compiling longer ..but it can tweak big things like xserver |
| 00:25.54 | geoaxis | but -O3 is useless for smaller apps ..waste of time |
| 00:26.07 | emreTURK | hi all.. i'm trying to compile that depends on kdb2html... but i'm using kde 3.2.2 and i've found out that kdb2html is no longer present since kde 3.1.x .. |
| 00:26.12 | emreTURK | what should i do.. |
| 00:26.17 | emreTURK | is there a replacement for it.. |
| 00:26.33 | teatime | what is it? |
| 00:26.39 | emreTURK | i don't know.. |
| 00:26.44 | geoaxis | emreTURK, u can always compile kdb2html |
| 00:26.47 | emreTURK | i couldn't even find a manual about it.. |
| 00:26.51 | emreTURK | how? |
| 00:27.05 | emreTURK | from kde 3.1 source codes.. |
| 00:27.08 | emreTURK | just kdb2html.. |
| 00:27.10 | emreTURK | is it? |
| 00:27.21 | geoaxis | just grab 3.0 source and dig the kdb2html and comile it |
| 00:27.27 | emreTURK | ok.. |
| 00:27.38 | geoaxis | it will probably gentrate some libkdb2html.so |
| 00:27.41 | emreTURK | i'm gonna try it.. thanx!.. it's the last resort!.. |
| 00:27.55 | emreTURK | no .. kdb2html is a binary in /usr/bin .. |
| 00:27.55 | geoaxis | by the way what are u trying to compile |
| 00:28.14 | emreTURK | can i find a compiled one.. |
| 00:28.21 | geoaxis | emreTURK, if it is a dependcy then u a\only need an .so library file |
| 00:28.22 | emreTURK | just kdb2html.. |
| 00:28.48 | teatime | emreTURK: what depends on it then? |
| 00:28.51 | emreTURK | well.. this problem occurs when i type ./configure .. |
| 00:29.00 | geoaxis | emreTURK, yes u can ..but again if it is a depedcany it will need a lib*.so file ..not a bin file |
| 00:29.05 | emreTURK | one minute.. |
| 00:29.42 | geoaxis | emreTURK, i am sure ther is some thing better for whihc u r compiling |
| 00:30.27 | emreTURK | no.. |
| 00:30.30 | emreTURK | this is a sample code.. |
| 00:30.43 | geoaxis | lolz |
| 00:30.43 | emreTURK | i compile it to learn sth.. |
| 00:30.47 | emreTURK | this is a old sample.. |
| 00:30.53 | emreTURK | i couldn't find anything new.. |
| 00:30.56 | geoaxis | there can alwasys be a better sample code too |
| 00:31.01 | emreTURK | i'm trying to learn making kioslaves... |
| 00:31.09 | emreTURK | i found it in: |
| 00:31.18 | geoaxis | any special needs |
| 00:31.22 | emreTURK | in a german site.. |
| 00:31.52 | emreTURK | hmm.. |
| 00:31.59 | emreTURK | i didn't see it.. |
| 00:32.30 | teatime | C++ -> KDE -> KIO Slave |
| 00:32.32 | teatime | it's there |
| 00:32.50 | emreTURK | www.heise.de/ct/01/05/242/default.shtml |
| 00:33.07 | emreTURK | ah ok thanx, i'm gonna look at it... |
| 00:33.31 | emreTURK | and in the configure file.. |
| 00:34.21 | emreTURK | kdb2html is needed for a variable called kde_cv_path .. |
| 00:34.28 | emreTURK | whatever.. |
| 00:34.39 | emreTURK | i'm gonna try to compile it, and look for the newerr manual.. |
| 00:34.55 | emreTURK | but do u think i can find a compiled version of kdb2html.. |
| 00:35.02 | emreTURK | it may be risky but.. |
| 00:35.46 | emreTURK | even, one of you may have it if u're using kde 3.1.x |
| 00:36.39 | teatime | emreTURK: suit yourself |
| 00:37.02 | teatime | but if you have kdevelop3, you would (probably) have a compiling project by now |
| 00:37.20 | emreTURK | OK.. |
| 00:37.45 | teatime | I just tried it here, and at least in HEAD it builds fine |
| 00:38.06 | teatime | I know it used to two years ago too :) |
| 00:38.21 | teatime | (probably hasn't changed at all since) |
| 00:38.29 | emreTURK | ah ok thanx... :) i'm gonna try it.. |
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| 00:59.57 | emreTURK | wow! it's wonderful kdevelop's sample.. |
| 01:00.34 | emreTURK | i've compiled it, when i type sample:/ in konqueror it doesn't work! |
| 01:00.49 | emreTURK | everything went well.. |
| 01:00.58 | emreTURK | while compiling.. |
| 01:01.14 | emreTURK | i didn't add/remove any code.. just wanted to try.. |
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| 01:15.38 | smacnay_ | hello |
| 01:17.06 | teatime | emreTURK: did you install it? |
| 01:17.25 | emreTURK | yes.. |
| 01:17.45 | emreTURK | i've used kdevelop's utils for that.. |
| 01:17.54 | teatime | does it say unknown protocol or some other error? |
| 01:18.00 | emreTURK | configure -> make -> install .. |
| 01:18.02 | emreTURK | no result.. |
| 01:19.00 | teatime | does it say unknown protocol or some other error? |
| 01:19.04 | emreTURK | no.. |
| 01:19.26 | emreTURK | it just goes to google directly :) .. |
| 01:19.40 | emreTURK | ah yes.. |
| 01:19.42 | teatime | google? |
| 01:19.45 | emreTURK | when i type sample: |
| 01:19.52 | emreTURK | it gives an error.. |
| 01:20.13 | emreTURK | and when i type sample:/ .. google yes.. |
| 01:20.28 | teatime | oh, the suspense... what is the error? |
| 01:21.21 | emreTURK | unknown url; http://sample |
| 01:21.24 | emreTURK | .. |
| 01:21.32 | emreTURK | it takes it as a url .. |
| 01:21.53 | teatime | ok.. that's clearly wrong |
| 01:22.01 | emreTURK | .. yes .. |
| 01:22.07 | teatime | sample:/ should execute your protocol |
| 01:22.14 | emreTURK | yes .. |
| 01:22.23 | emreTURK | and while compiling no error is given.. |
| 01:22.40 | teatime | why the hell that ends up as a google lookup, I have no idea |
| 01:23.22 | emreTURK | yes.. ok thanx.. |
| 01:23.42 | teatime | emreTURK: try setting "default searchengine" to 'none' |
| 01:23.48 | emreTURK | ok.. |
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| 01:24.48 | teatime | emreTURK: yeah.. that looks like it |
| 01:25.47 | teatime | I'm pretty sure your ioslave isn't correctly installed, and when you have a default searchengine and enter an unknown protocol, konqueror assumes you want to search |
| 01:26.02 | teatime | at least that's what happens here |
| 01:26.33 | teatime | with it set to 'none' I get the expected "protocol not supported" |
| 01:26.43 | emreTURK | yes.. |
| 01:27.15 | teatime | so you should probably verify that the install does what you think it does |
| 01:27.39 | teatime | and what it should do - which is to install the ioslave and its support files in a directory listed in $KDEDIRS |
| 01:28.04 | teatime | or just straight into the main KDE installation directory |
| 01:30.48 | emreTURK | teatime, þ couldn't find sth about search engines in konqueror settings.. |
| 01:30.49 | emreTURK | but |
| 01:30.55 | emreTURK | i tried this |
| 01:30.58 | emreTURK | kbuildsycoca --noincrementa |
| 01:31.00 | emreTURK | l |
| 01:31.10 | teatime | emreTURK: look under "webshortcuts" |
| 01:31.20 | emreTURK | ah ok |
| 01:31.20 | emreTURK | .. |
| 01:31.22 | emreTURK | and now |
| 01:31.25 | emreTURK | it tells me |
| 01:31.35 | emreTURK | "unsupported protocol" :) |
| 01:31.42 | teatime | yay. sort of ;) |
| 01:31.57 | emreTURK | :) |
| 01:35.51 | teatime | night all |
| 01:36.05 | emreTURK | goog night.. |
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| 02:45.39 | pi | Hello, is there a graphical login for KDE? |
| 02:51.47 | sonderblade | yes kdm |
| 02:58.51 | pi | cool ty |
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| 03:26.54 | emreTURK | hi all, i'm trying to compile the sample kioslave app of kdevelop but it doesn't work! I don't even touch it.. |
| 03:27.00 | emreTURK | What may be wrong ? |
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| 03:28.01 | emreTURK | I just open the project, then click "Build Project" button, and finally install it as root.. |
| 03:28.06 | DarkCoiote | how can i make KDE games' highscore persistent? |
| 03:36.24 | DarkCoiote | how can i make KDE games' highscore persistent?/? |
| 03:36.25 | sonderblade | everytime i start a kde app i get this message: kdecore (KIconLoader): WARNING: Icon directory /usr/share/icons/hicolor/ group 48x48/stock/data not valid. why? |
| 03:38.24 | emreTURK | i have never seen such a msg, but the first thing that comes in my mind is to go contol this directory and its permissions etc. |
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| 04:14.23 | recorded_syntax | can anyone running kde please "ps ax" and try to find out? |
| 04:15.39 | Ctrl-Z | hi |
| 04:15.43 | Ctrl-Z | here's my problem: I can load Xfce from gdm, but I cant do it from kdm... kdm 3.2 doesnt seem to be able to load xfce or Metacity |
| 04:16.33 | recorded_syntax | i can't run ratpoison from kdm either :-| |
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| 05:49.39 | pi | bleh, dumb xchat.. |
| 05:50.21 | pi | heh, Im trying to install kde 3.3 I put kdestart in xinitrc, but it says unrecognized command |
| 05:50.46 | grepper | pi: where did you get that command ? |
| 05:50.53 | grepper | startkde |
| 05:51.05 | pi | err, sorry that is what I meant. |
| 05:51.46 | grepper | what distro ? |
| 05:52.14 | pi | Slackware |
| 05:53.04 | grepper | the command "which startkde" doesn't return anything ? |
| 05:54.50 | pi | Yes, it returns somethings, I cant seem to copy them off xfce Terminal |
| 05:55.19 | pi | beginning says no startkde in <paths....> |
| 05:55.48 | grepper | ok |
| 05:55.59 | grepper | kde-config --prefix |
| 05:56.06 | grepper | what does that return ? |
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| 05:56.42 | pi | command not found. |
| 05:57.01 | pi | weird because I just installpkg the slackware *.tgz's |
| 05:58.50 | pi | bummer |
| 06:00.46 | grepper | echo $PATH |
| 06:02.30 | pi | grepper, I have kde in /opt/kde/bin |
| 06:02.35 | pi | if that helps |
| 06:03.17 | grepper | what does "echo $PATH" return ? |
| 06:04.09 | pi | kfce Terminal is not letting me copy (but /opt/kde/bin) is not in the list of those paths. |
| 06:04.28 | grepper | ok, therein lies your problem |
| 06:04.54 | pi | Do you have any suggestions how to fix this please. |
| 06:04.55 | grepper | what shell do you use ? |
| 06:05.44 | pi | I am not sure, default one for err "XFCE" |
| 06:05.58 | grepper | echo $SHELL |
| 06:06.29 | pi | just returned /bin/bash |
| 06:08.43 | pi | somone else suggested I try export PATH=$PATH:/opt/kde/bin, gonna give it a shot brb |
| 06:09.35 | grepper | pi: exactly |
| 06:09.41 | grepper | where I was leading |
| 06:09.45 | pi | ;] |
| 06:09.49 | grepper | that is what you would use in bash |
| 06:09.57 | grepper | if you ran another shell it would be different |
| 06:10.25 | grepper | but you also need to figure out why it is not part of your path |
| 06:10.44 | grepper | because that export will end when you logout |
| 06:11.01 | pi | ohh, so I would need to keep doing that afterwards? |
| 06:11.05 | grepper | putting it in your ~/.bashrc is one solution, assuming it gets sourced on login |
| 06:11.07 | pi | oreven log out of XFCE? |
| 06:11.33 | grepper | do it in console where you run startx |
| 06:11.53 | pi | how about when I totally boot? will it go away? |
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| 06:35.38 | mdouhan | hi |
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| 07:15.13 | marcusU | hi |
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| 07:29.10 | marcusU | huh? |
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| 07:31.12 | mdouhan | ? |
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| 07:33.03 | wisahe | no more root |
| 07:33.04 | wisahe | sorry |
| 07:33.05 | wisahe | jejejeje |
| 07:33.12 | wisahe | anyone can help me? |
| 07:33.21 | wisahe | how can install KDE 3.2.2. on Debian Woody? |
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| 07:45.23 | grepper | there is a #debian-kde channel |
| 07:45.41 | marcusU | I think I tried Debian once, but I was upset about the lack of X configuration. |
| 07:45.59 | grepper | really ? |
| 07:46.04 | marcusU | Yes. |
| 07:46.14 | marcusU | I'm used to SuSE's SaX2. |
| 07:46.17 | grepper | dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 07:46.32 | grepper | walks you through it |
| 07:46.39 | grepper | you need to know your HW a bit tho |
| 07:46.41 | marcusU | And Debian and Gentoo just don't work for me with their endless downloading. |
| 07:47.10 | grepper | eh? you just install the base system and apt-get what you want |
| 07:47.16 | marcusU | Sax2 just figures everything out for me. I do know my hardware, but even with that information, Sax2 is the only utility that really helps. |
| 07:47.31 | marcusU | If you don't have a fast internet connection, it sucks. |
| 07:48.05 | grepper | if you know your HW, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 asks all the necessary questions |
| 07:48.18 | mdouhan | he is this a "my system is better than yours"? argument lol |
| 07:48.20 | marcusU | Uh, huh. |
| 07:48.24 | grepper | tricky part is, you have to know to install x-window-system-core |
| 07:48.34 | grepper | mdouhan: not really, I never said that |
| 07:49.00 | mdouhan | I know but it is always funny how everyone thinks their system is the best :) |
| 07:49.09 | marcusU | I just get ticked because people just assume that everyone has a super-fast internet connection. Distros like Debian and Gentoo just are not practical if you can't get DSL or cable where you live. |
| 07:49.16 | grepper | I don't |
| 07:49.45 | mdouhan | marcusU: well They also have packages |
| 07:49.53 | grepper | mdouhan: the best one is usually one you know the best, assuming it doesn't suck to badly |
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| 07:49.58 | marcusU | mdouhan: Packages? |
| 07:50.05 | grepper | these are quirks with every distro |
| 07:50.09 | mdouhan | marcusU: how is suse different if you need to install X you need src or pkgs from somewhere no matter what the dis is |
| 07:50.21 | shadewind | is it possible to remove window border from certain windows like in E? |
| 07:50.38 | grepper | yes |
| 07:50.40 | marcusU | mdouhan: I can go to the local retailer and get SuSE. |
| 07:50.47 | mdouhan | oh lol |
| 07:51.05 | mdouhan | well I ams ure you can go and buy $OTHERDISTRO too |
| 07:51.25 | marcusU | I don't think that Best Buy sells $OTHERDISTRO. |
| 07:51.50 | mdouhan | so order on the net, and get whatever distro :) |
| 07:52.24 | grepper | shadewind: r-click the title bar-> advanced |
| 07:52.25 | marcusU | With Debian, I have to order online and wait for it to arrive. |
| 07:52.57 | mdouhan | I can just go to our local retaile that carries many dists and also *BSD |
| 07:53.03 | grepper | marcusU: yes, the dist-upgrade needs a fast connection, for sure |
| 07:53.06 | mdouhan | I guess your retailers just suck :) |
| 07:53.08 | shadewind | grepper: thanks |
| 07:53.22 | grepper | but with sarge coming out, that will be less of an issue |
| 07:53.32 | grepper | you can get the |
| 07:53.37 | grepper | CD and be done |
| 07:54.15 | marcusU | grepper: I cannot get DSL or cable here. So the fastest I can get is ISDN. |
| 07:54.37 | grepper | yeah, its nice to have |
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| 07:57.20 | marcusU | I can't get either. |
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| 08:12.41 | nordkapp | hello. i have set the KDE desktop manager to be used on my FC2 system (/etc/sysconfig/desktop). when logging in, there is a list where users can select their desired session environment (kde,gnome,xfce4, etc). How can i add/remove session enviroments in that list? |
| 08:13.07 | nordkapp | and the same question if i use GNOME desktop manager? |
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| 08:30.19 | marcusU | No idea. |
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| 08:53.00 | kILLaz | helo kde |
| 08:53.18 | kILLaz | I think i have a bug..... 8) |
| 08:54.09 | kILLaz | I have found a bug. |
| 08:54.53 | kILLaz | I want to delete an item from my K menu, but when I want to do that I don't see it in the editor. |
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| 09:09.41 | m0ns00n | Hellu |
| 09:09.42 | m0ns00n | :) |
| 09:10.12 | m0ns00n | question, when developing a program that uses KDE for a GUI, do I have to use threads then? |
| 09:10.23 | ponto | m0ns00n: no |
| 09:10.26 | mdouhan | no |
| 09:10.32 | m0ns00n | I'm making a "game server", and want the user to be able to interact with the running server. |
| 09:10.58 | m0ns00n | I'm an extreme novice working with GUIs :) |
| 09:11.02 | mdouhan | the answer is still no |
| 09:11.07 | m0ns00n | That's nice to hear. |
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| 09:11.56 | shadewind | how can i make my prompt appear in Konsole? |
| 09:12.06 | shadewind | i just see the standard bash prompt |
| 09:12.16 | mdouhan | uhmm the prompt is set in the shell not in Konsole |
| 09:12.26 | mdouhan | if you have it in your *rc it appears automagically |
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| 09:12.55 | mdouhan | what prompt did you expect to see ? |
| 09:13.10 | mdouhan | the prompt in Konsole is the same as your shell prompt |
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| 09:15.14 | shadewind | mdouhan: nope |
| 09:15.31 | mdouhan | what do you mean nope ? |
| 09:15.34 | shadewind | but i get it when i source /etc/profile |
| 09:15.56 | mdouhan | well did you reatart X after you changed it ? |
| 09:16.00 | mdouhan | restart |
| 09:16.13 | shadewind | i've had this prompt all the time |
| 09:16.24 | shadewind | it appears in Eterm but not Konsole |
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| 09:16.30 | mdouhan | I dont use bash but for sure if you set it properly in your rc file it WILL show up in Konsole |
| 09:16.31 | shadewind | i run gentoo |
| 09:16.56 | mdouhan | is there not something like a .bashrc file in your homedir ? |
| 09:17.35 | shadewind | just so you know, i'm not new to linux, just new to KDE :) |
| 09:17.53 | mdouhan | well then you should know how to set your sh prompt properly |
| 09:18.22 | mdouhan | it has nothing to do with Konsole thats for sure |
| 09:19.23 | mdouhan | the csh way is to set prompt="%{^[[1;31m%}%t %n @ [%m] %~ %{^[[0m%}> " in .cshrc |
| 09:19.29 | mdouhan | and Konsole picks that up |
| 09:19.46 | mdouhan | I am totally convinced you can do the same in bash |
| 09:20.03 | shadewind | mdouhan: rather Konsole starts csh and csh reads .cshrc |
| 09:20.11 | mdouhan | no |
| 09:20.29 | mdouhan | Konsole just starts whatever shell your user is setup to use |
| 09:20.59 | shadewind | yes, and that is in your case csh |
| 09:21.14 | mdouhan | of course |
| 09:21.29 | mdouhan | so you set your prompt in the approprate bash file and it will pick your prompt up too |
| 09:21.35 | mdouhan | since you use bash |
| 09:21.45 | shadewind | source /etc/profile in .bashrc |
| 09:21.47 | shadewind | i got it |
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| 09:36.08 | shadewind | there doesn't seem to be many dark themes for KDE |
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| 10:18.35 | Big_Bozz | greetings y'all |
| 10:18.53 | Big_Bozz | Anybody know where I can get a list of the possible values that I can put into the KDM greet string? |
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| 10:19.28 | ponto | Big_Bozz: from the source? |
| 10:19.29 | Big_Bozz | only ones I know is %s (which basically just prints Linux) and %n which is the domainless host name.. |
| 10:20.10 | Big_Bozz | ponto: There most be an easier way that downloading the src and looking through it to find the values. |
| 10:23.35 | ponto | Big_Bozz: have you looked into the help of the kdm kcontrol module? |
| 10:23.55 | Big_Bozz | yeah - looking through it - but they don't seem to specifiy it. |
| 10:24.21 | ponto | Big_Bozz: they specify it. |
| 10:24.39 | Big_Bozz | ponto: Just found it now. Thanks :-) |
| 10:26.47 | shadewind | anyone know a good dark theme for KDE? |
| 10:29.11 | ponto | shadewind: have you searched kde-look.org |
| 10:29.40 | shadewind | ponto: there aren't a lot of themes at all there |
| 10:30.21 | shadewind | ponto: at least not for 3.2 |
| 10:30.47 | ponto | 3.1 and 3.0 should also work for 3.2 or not? |
| 10:30.57 | shadewind | well, i don't know |
| 10:31.26 | shadewind | it should say ">3.0" and so on instead |
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| 10:33.03 | ponto | shadewind: i thinks it will run also on 3.2 |
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| 10:34.51 | atomik | cuic boum tra lala |
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| 10:54.16 | shadewind | there aren? |
| 10:54.18 | shadewind | blajh |
| 10:54.30 | shadewind | there aren't many different themes for KDE |
| 10:55.56 | shadewind | seems to just be a few and different types of packages for each |
| 10:56.02 | shadewind | and all of the look the same almost |
| 10:57.00 | Edulix | have you tried baghira, for example ? |
| 10:57.30 | Big_Bozz | don't think that baghira classifies as a dark theme? But I love it :-) |
| 10:58.01 | Edulix | hehehe well, you dark it! :P |
| 10:58.09 | Big_Bozz | shadewind: You may also want to check out the KDE forum - I think a lot of users are posting their screenshots for others to see (there should be some nice dark themes among them) |
| 10:58.31 | Big_Bozz | Edulix: :-) true true |
| 10:59.35 | Edulix | well, I'm going to reboot from k12ltsp to fedora, so I can try to build a new kernel for suse and see if it's bad performace problems I'm getting dissapear |
| 10:59.41 | Edulix | bbl :) |
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| 11:01.43 | shadewind_ | why are there so few KDE-themes? |
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| 11:10.46 | dolphin | shadewind: ya kidding? right? |
| 11:12.34 | SatanClaus | hey, I got a question concerning kdewallet... there's an icon in my kmenu under "Most Used Applications" called "KDE Wallet". Now when I click that icon it just times out and I get a "kcmshell: WARNING: Could not find module 'kwallet'." What I wanted to do is looking up what that icon actually does, as kwalletmanager starts. Where are those menu-entries saved? |
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| 11:13.45 | shadewind__ | can it be so hard to find good KDE themes? |
| 11:17.11 | dolphin | ehh |
| 11:17.11 | dolphin | please don't do clone connections |
| 11:17.16 | teatime | shadewind__: define "good" ;) |
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| 11:18.13 | mok | hi all, asking kmail questions here? |
| 11:18.29 | teatime | you can always try |
| 11:19.21 | mok | I'd like to add a signature to my email depending on the language (ru/en), how to do it? |
| 11:20.21 | teatime | automatically? |
| 11:20.21 | mok | yes |
| 11:20.21 | teatime | you want kmail to figure out what language you have written in?! |
| 11:20.21 | mok | yes |
| 11:20.30 | teatime | that doesn't sound easy to implement... |
| 11:20.30 | shadewind__ | teatime: not just bright... but i suddenly realised KDE themes are not static, you can change the color scheme... |
| 11:21.29 | mok | well, there is an option of adding a signature from a command, but how this command will get the current encoding of my email? |
| 11:26.45 | teatime | mok: I think there is a kmail mailinglist.. something this technicall.. try that :) |
| 11:31.52 | mok | teatime: ok. thx for help |
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| 12:25.29 | Saw^ | Can I somehow order (in KDE) in which desktop a window is created when I run a program (without being in that desktop) eg. in konsole |
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| 12:26.35 | mdouhan | yes |
| 12:27.06 | mdouhan | make it where you want it to be and save that profile by right clicking the window and save profile |
| 12:27.19 | mdouhan | the next time you open it will open exactly where you left it |
| 12:27.27 | mdouhan | even if you start it from another desktop |
| 12:28.04 | mdouhan | right click -> advanced -> store window settings |
| 12:28.08 | Saw^ | oki |
| 12:29.26 | Saw^ | thanks, that helped something |
| 12:31.13 | mdouhan | np |
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| 13:59.49 | Saw^ | mdouhan: kstart is probably more like that, what I was searching for (just to let you know about it too =)) |
| 14:09.30 | mdouhan | sure or dcop would work |
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| 14:15.06 | blaue0 | hello :) |
| 14:16.15 | blaue0 | Is there a mouse-gestures plugin for konqueror, like the all-in-one gestures for mozilla? |
| 14:17.09 | ponto | blaue0: there are predefined konqueror examples for khotkeys. other gestures can be defined easily |
| 14:17.50 | blaue0 | ponto: where can I define other gestures? |
| 14:19.27 | ponto | blaue0: Alt+F2 -> khotkeys |
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| 14:19.52 | blaue0 | ponto: thanks :) |
| 14:21.07 | blaue0 | ponto: isn't it possible to use the left mouse key for the gestures? |
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| 14:22.46 | ponto | blaue0: i don't know, but i thinks it's not usefull to use the left mouse key. |
| 14:23.29 | blaue0 | ponto: maybe you're right, but i've used the mozilla gestures with the left key for months now, and i never had a problem :P |
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| 14:37.00 | blaue0 | How can I tell KDE to show Icons for a supermount device, _only_ when media is inserted in the device? |
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| 14:50.59 | thiago | blaue0: you can configure what icons are shown on the desktop |
| 14:52.01 | blaue0 | thiago: but it should not always show... only if media is in there... but supermount devices are mounted always... |
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| 14:52.36 | royX | how to know my kde version? |
| 14:53.34 | thiago | blaue0: not really. |
| 14:53.51 | thiago | royX: in any KDE program, find the About KDE menu entry |
| 14:54.14 | blaue0 | thiago: supermount devices are mounted all the time. mount does not know if media is there or not, it's just mounted... |
| 14:55.32 | royX | where thiago? |
| 14:55.54 | thiago | royX: in any KDE program, in the Help menu. |
| 14:56.15 | thiago | blaue0: how do you tell when a media is inserted, programatically? |
| 14:56.56 | blaue0 | thiago: the supermount daemon mounts the media to the mount point, when it dedects media in the device... |
| 14:58.40 | thiago | repeating the question: how can you, with a program, know when a media is inserted? |
| 15:00.02 | blaue0 | thiago: i don't know how i can get information about a supermount device, but, if it's a normal device, i could use the mount command... |
| 15:01.16 | thiago | if you can't tell me how to detect when a media is inserted, I can't help you. |
| 15:01.24 | royX | themes from older version cant be use in 3.2? |
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| 15:04.39 | thiago | royX: you should be able to |
| 15:04.40 | blaue0 | thiago: none on /mnt/dvd type supermount (ro,noexec,nosuid,nodev,fs=iso9660,dev=/dev/cdroms/cdrom1,--) <- this is the output of mount... no media is inserted. |
| 15:04.40 | thiago | and when it is? |
| 15:04.41 | blaue0 | the same |
| 15:04.41 | thiago | that doesn't help then |
| 15:04.41 | blaue0 | i know... |
| 15:04.41 | thiago | the point is: if you can't tell when a media is inserter, neither can KDE |
| 15:11.09 | teatime | thiago: the desktop "device icons" support.. what does that depend on? I never got it to work |
| 15:12.25 | blaue0 | thiago: an idea to see if media is inserted: if the mountpoint isn't empty, media is there... |
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| 15:15.23 | thiago | teatime: kio_devices and mountwatcher |
| 15:15.33 | thiago | blaue0: what if you insert an empty media? |
| 15:15.42 | teatime | thiago: ok.. I'll have a look there |
| 15:17.43 | blaue0 | thiago: if nothing is inserted, ls -la /mnt/dvd tells total 0, if there is empty media then the mountpoint is totaly empty. |
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| 15:22.44 | thiago | blaue0: what is the difference between an empty uninserted mountpoint and an empty inserted mountpoint? |
| 15:23.26 | blaue0 | thiago: if its empty and uninserted, ls -la tells "total 0", if an empty media is inserted, the mountpoint looks like this (ls -la) ".keep" |
| 15:23.52 | thiago | ".keep"? |
| 15:24.00 | blaue0 | .keep yes |
| 15:24.06 | thiago | can you erase that file? |
| 15:24.21 | blaue0 | yes |
| 15:24.32 | thiago | so, if you do, what becomes the difference? |
| 15:24.45 | blaue0 | nothing, but i don't do it... |
| 15:25.14 | thiago | do all mounts have that file? |
| 15:25.28 | blaue0 | on my computer, yes |
| 15:26.41 | thiago | that's odd |
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| 16:12.17 | doctorwhite | is there anyway to make the icons in the konqueror wm to view pictures as a manual slideshow? |
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| 16:13.57 | celebrity | Hey everybody, I have this xZoomBar, but there isn't any icons on the panel, except the console.. How do I add other icons to the panel? |
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| 16:23.46 | celebrity | Who will please help me? |
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| 16:29.31 | iwilcox | Is there anything you have to explicitly do to enable image previews in Konq? I've got View|Preview|Images turned on, and I'm in the noddy icon view mode, but I just see the mime-related icon for all these JPGs. |
| 16:29.59 | iwilcox | s/do/{do,install}/ |
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| 16:33.52 | ponto | IahHel: maybe the files are too large |
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| 16:38.16 | ponto | iwilcox: you can change the threshold in konqueror's settings |
| 16:38.21 | iwilcox | Doesn't work for either the 2272x1740 digital photos or their 160x120 thumbnails :( |
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| 16:38.43 | iwilcox | ponto: Shirley 160x120 isn't big. |
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| 16:42.19 | Viking1 | If kde uses konquerer as its browser and I installed mozilla how do I get kde to use mozilla? |
| 16:42.44 | Viking1 | or how do you get macromedia flash to work with konquerer |
| 16:42.45 | ficoos | Hi, how do i change the kde theme from other window managers like XFCE or Gnome |
| 16:43.15 | ponto | Viking1: is the plugin found? |
| 16:43.28 | Viking1 | where do I look for it? |
| 16:43.54 | Viking1 | yes its installed |
| 16:43.57 | ponto | Viking1: konqueror's settings -> plugins |
| 16:44.09 | ponto | ficoos: did you try kcontrol |
| 16:44.13 | Viking1 | but the only install option dir was mozilla or netscape |
| 16:44.28 | Viking1 | so I installed it in /usr/lib/mozilla |
| 16:44.30 | ficoos | ponto:10x |
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| 16:44.43 | Viking1 | if I use konqurer where do I install the plugin? |
| 16:45.02 | ponto | Viking1: you can add another search directory for konqueror and let it search for new plugins |
| 16:45.19 | Viking1 | ok how? |
| 16:45.41 | ponto | Viking1: have you found konquerors plugin settings? |
| 16:46.00 | Viking1 | no |
| 16:46.05 | Viking1 | where do I look |
| 16:46.10 | Viking1 | open browser |
| 16:46.14 | Viking1 | and go to settings or tools |
| 16:46.22 | ponto | settings |
| 16:46.59 | Viking1 | no its not there |
| 16:47.36 | Viking1 | where should I install the plugin? |
| 16:47.52 | Viking1 | so konqurer can find it |
| 16:47.59 | Viking1 | in /usr/lib/? |
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| 16:48.49 | Viking1 | anyone? |
| 16:48.51 | ponto | Viking1: type Alt + F2 and then kcmshell khtml_plugins |
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| 16:52.26 | Viking1 | thanks that was it |
| 16:52.32 | Viking1 | so last question |
| 16:53.01 | Viking1 | can I install that plugins "flash media" with out intalling mozilla or netscape |
| 16:53.02 | Viking1 | to get the same result |
| 16:53.33 | ponto | Viking1: yes, but konqueror must be able to find the plugin. |
| 16:53.46 | Viking1 | so where should I put it |
| 16:53.55 | Viking1 | for konqueror to find it |
| 16:54.13 | ponto | one of the directories you see at the plugins config page. |
| 16:54.21 | Viking1 | ok cool |
| 16:54.22 | Viking1 | thanks |
| 16:55.56 | vogella | I'm trying to learn QT by the "C++ GUI programming with QT 3" bl |
| 16:56.18 | vogella | book. Can I compile the .h and .cpp file without the main program? |
| 16:56.45 | ponto | vogella: yes |
| 16:57.08 | vogella | ponto: just qmake -project and qmake then? |
| 16:57.10 | ponto | maybe you should first learn c++ programming, before you start with qt. |
| 16:57.15 | vogella | ponto: True. |
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| 16:58.01 | ponto | vogella: after qmake comes a make |
| 16:58.34 | ponto | this compiles as much as possible. but without a main function linking will fail. |
| 16:59.09 | vogella | ponto: But in case I would like to compile just one combination of .h and .cpp I need a seperate make file? |
| 16:59.18 | Beschwa | how can i make my keyboard work, and the keys are wrong, i get kdm on remote box and keyboard is fine, then kde loads and keyboard is wrong |
| 16:59.37 | ponto | vogella: if you have clock.cpp and clock.h |
| 16:59.44 | ponto | vogella: you can try make clock.o |
| 16:59.53 | vogella | ponto: Thank you. |
| 17:00.38 | ponto | Beschwa: everything is ok in the kcontrol keyboard module? |
| 17:00.49 | vogella | This will make it easier to find my typing errors in the examples of the book. |
| 17:02.32 | Beschwa | there is no keyboard model for my keyboard could this be why, i can login from my pc and keyboard is fine |
| 17:02.37 | vogella | Bescha: I think you can setup your keyboard with Control Center -> Regional & Accessibility -> Keyboard Layout. |
| 17:04.04 | Beschwa | it is a sun keyboard that doenst work once kde is loaded, and there is no option for sun keyboard in kde |
| 17:05.27 | ponto | Beschwa: did you try the default keyboard setups |
| 17:06.58 | Beschwa | will i have to restart kde once keyboard setup is changed? |
| 17:07.08 | ponto | no |
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| 17:12.35 | EO_ | Boourns to koffice compilation errors. |
| 17:13.29 | EO_ | Is there a way to browse KDE CVS through web? |
| 17:13.42 | ponto | EO_: yes. |
| 17:14.11 | ponto | EO_: go to www.kde.org -> ... -> ... -> WebCVS |
| 17:14.27 | EO_ | heh k |
| 17:14.40 | ponto | http://webcvs.kde.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/ |
| 17:16.17 | EO_ | yup yup, got it |
| 17:17.16 | EO_ | HAHA! IT HAS! |
| 17:18.16 | iwilcox | Warm fuzzy feelings all round then :) |
| 17:18.38 | EO_ | Who would thought that: KoRect rect( rect().x(), rect().y(), rect().width(), rect().height() ); would ACTUALLY mean: KoRect rect = KoRect::fromQRect( this->rect() ); |
| 17:18.39 | EO_ | heh |
| 17:19.35 | ponto | EO_: IMHO i had the same error some days ago. |
| 17:20.00 | EO_ | oh, same line? or just the same kind? |
| 17:20.34 | ponto | EO_: i remember this line. |
| 17:20.50 | EO_ | what a pesky little line :) |
| 17:23.33 | EO_ | ponto: you compile fam-2.6.9 recently? |
| 17:23.36 | EO_ | that was a FUN one. |
| 17:23.52 | ponto | there is already 2.6.10 |
| 17:23.59 | EO_ | I had to use gcc 2.95.x to get it working. gcc 3.4.2 totally craps out on it. |
| 17:24.15 | ponto | 3.4.2? |
| 17:24.19 | EO_ | yea. |
| 17:24.27 | ponto | not yet announced |
| 17:24.37 | EO_ | REALLY |
| 17:24.50 | EO_ | gcc (GCC) 3.4.2 [FreeBSD] 20040728 |
| 17:24.54 | EO_ | doesn't say beta or anything... |
| 17:25.01 | ponto | gcc.gnu.org |
| 17:25.04 | iwilcox | Serves you right for using a bleeding edge compiler then, dunnit :) |
| 17:25.20 | EO_ | iwilcox: there's been more bleeding than edge to be honest. :/ |
| 17:26.03 | iwilcox | Not being a compiler geek, I've often wondered what each new release of gcc actually does. |
| 17:26.28 | iwilcox | Apart from not build the kernel, which seems to be a standard feature of each new release :) |
| 17:26.30 | ponto | iwilcox: 3.4 is more c++ compliant than any other g++ version. |
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| 17:26.51 | EO_ | I thought 3.2 had claimed to be 100% C++ already. |
| 17:27.12 | ponto | as far as i know there are still issues with 3.4 |
| 17:27.20 | EO_ | oh lord. |
| 17:27.29 | ponto | but there are a lot of differences between 3.2 and 3.4 for c++ |
| 17:27.30 | iav | is there anothing commonly used qt IRC client other than ksirc? i just don't like the way it wants to have 2 windows open |
| 17:27.50 | ponto | iav: klick on the ksirc icon in the taskbar. |
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| 17:28.14 | ponto | EO_: for example two phase template instantiation is nearly correct. |
| 17:28.20 | EO_ | default: } <-- invalid now :( |
| 17:28.34 | ponto | EO_: most improvements came from the new hand written c++ parser. |
| 17:28.42 | iav | good point, ponto |
| 17:28.46 | iav | thanks |
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| 17:29.01 | _RaVen | anyone here know how to prevent a program in one of the kde modules from building? ..like build kdenetwork without ksirc |
| 17:29.14 | EO_ | ponto: I have no idea what 2 phase template instantiation even is. heh. |
| 17:29.31 | _RaVen | I have heard about the DO_NOT_BUILD env variable..but cannot find any docs on it |
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| 17:30.07 | CAiRO | hi |
| 17:30.12 | ponto | _RaVen: maybe ./configure --without-ksirc |
| 17:31.12 | CAiRO | is there a way to get rid of the "extension "GLX" missing on display" message when i start kde apps? and i know that GLX isn't loaded, because it doesn't work with xinerama |
| 17:31.53 | ponto | EO_: look at http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc-3.4.1/gcc/Name-lookup.html and http://gcc.gnu.org/bugs.html#known |
| 17:33.19 | EO_ | Anyone else get the impression C++ is a CRAZY language? :) |
| 17:33.33 | EO_ | If it takes SO long to develop a compiler for it |
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| 17:39.19 | ponto | you cannot compare perl with c++. there is no perl standard you can rely on. |
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| 17:41.10 | vogella | Does "kstart -desktop 2 openoffice" opens openoffice on desktop 2 at your PCs? |
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| 17:42.00 | EO_ | ponto: only thing I don't like about C++ is the lack of a standard lib that's all-encompassing (network support, sound, etc) |
| 17:42.23 | EO_ | ponto: sure would be nice to have something like that, even as an add-on. |
| 17:42.32 | ponto | EO_: you're right but for that you have Boost, Qt |
| 17:43.05 | EO_ | Nothing is all-inclusive tho |
| 17:43.29 | EO_ | you gotta pick little pieces from everywhere |
| 17:43.41 | EO_ | and it's not standardized, it's just what you as an individual coder choose to you |
| 17:43.43 | EO_ | err to use |
| 17:43.50 | Viking1 | what package from kde is like windblows office? |
| 17:43.55 | EO_ | there's no common ground to exchange higher-level code :/ |
| 17:44.23 | ponto | EO_: a lot of boost will become part of the next standard. qt has nearly everyting. |
| 17:44.34 | vogella | Wiking1: koffice? |
| 17:45.48 | EO_ | qt has threading? networking? sound? serial ports? printing? ... |
| 17:48.22 | EO_ | hrm, this Boost thing sounds promising @ first glance.. |
| 17:48.40 | EO_ | never stumbled accross boost yet |
| 17:48.52 | ponto | EO_: qt has threading, networking, printing, sound but i don't know about serial ports. |
| 17:49.18 | ponto | EO_: boost is a mighty tool. |
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| 17:51.55 | shadewind | how can i make superkaramba start automatically with a certain theme? |
| 17:52.52 | vogella | Can someone try "kstart -desktop 2 openoffice" and see if this works for him? I want to issue a bug report but would like to verify that I'm not reporting something stupid and stealing the time of KDE developers [assuming that you don't mind wasting your time ;-)] |
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| 18:12.25 | Beschwa | is there anyway to make fonts look better in kde 2.2.2? |
| 18:13.33 | ponto | Beschwa: bettar than what? |
| 18:15.02 | Beschwa | in konsole fonts look dodgy in small font size or culd it just be my hardware? |
| 18:16.46 | celebrity | Who is good at Superkaramba? |
| 18:17.36 | ponto | Beschwa: it's nearly impossible to help you, because everyone has another taste about fonts. |
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| 18:19.09 | Beschwa | ok thanks anyways, ill just find one that i can live with |
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| 18:45.44 | willix | is there a good p2p filesharing app for kde? preferable kazaa |
| 18:45.57 | Triskelios | apollon |
| 18:46.20 | willix | thanks |
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| 18:47.16 | Triskelios | install the gnutella and fasttrack (kazaa) plugins for gift |
| 18:48.40 | willix | thanks |
| 18:48.52 | willix | do you know what they are called under gentoo? :) |
| 18:49.02 | iwilcox | willix: I find dcgui (directconnect) OK. |
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| 18:50.13 | Vixtro | does anyone here use sim? |
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| 19:28.02 | xerxes1979 | Guys where do I set things to start automatically on boot, /etc/X11/xinitrc did nt work and so did nt /home/xerxes/.xinitrc ?? what is goin on here ? |
| 19:28.39 | grepper | xerxes1979: on boot ? You mean on logging into X/kde surely ? |
| 19:29.10 | grepper | if you are using KDE you can put them into your .kde/Autostart directory |
| 19:30.10 | xerxes1979 | oH |
| 19:30.12 | xerxes1979 | Oh |
| 19:30.16 | grepper | $(kde-config --localprefix)Autostart |
| 19:30.18 | xerxes1979 | Ok I will try that |
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| 19:32.03 | xerxes1979 | nano -w .kde/Autostart/.directory ?? |
| 19:32.40 | xerxes1979 | Did you guys mean this file ? |
| 19:32.50 | EO_ | wheeeeeeee more compilation errors |
| 19:32.54 | EO_ | this time in kdegraphics! :( |
| 19:33.34 | xerxes1979 | grepper, is that the directory you mean ? |
| 19:34.05 | shadewind | how kan i make superkaramba start automatically with theme and everything? |
| 19:34.16 | grepper | xerxes1979: echo $(kde-config --localprefix)Autostart |
| 19:34.24 | grepper | run that command and it will tell you |
| 19:34.58 | grepper | put executables, links to exectutables whatever in there |
| 19:35.18 | grepper | including shell scripts with exec bit |
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| 19:36.04 | xerxes1979 | grepper, that is way complicated. Cant I just edit something somewhere .. So I also can understand what I am actually doing ? |
| 19:37.06 | xerxes1979 | bash-2.05b# echo $(kde-config /usr/local/scripts/modmapper)Autostart |
| 19:37.06 | xerxes1979 | bash: kde-config: command not found |
| 19:37.06 | xerxes1979 | Autostart |
| 19:37.06 | xerxes1979 | bash-2.05b# |
| 19:37.46 | xerxes1979 | grepper, |
| 19:38.23 | grepper | xerxes1979: compare your command with mine |
| 19:38.33 | shadewind | uhm... please... is there some autostart script for KDE or something? |
| 19:38.42 | grepper | heh |
| 19:38.43 | shadewind | so i can make superkaramba start automatically |
| 19:38.54 | grepper | usually ~/.kde/Autostart |
| 19:39.00 | grepper | you can put stuff there |
| 19:39.46 | shadewind | grepper: but superkaramba won't start with a theme automatically |
| 19:40.34 | grepper | doesn't it take FILE for an argument ? |
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| 19:43.02 | shadewind | grepper: how do you mean? |
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| 19:43.04 | xerxes1979 | grepper, well that did nt work |
| 19:43.05 | xerxes1979 | I did nano -w .kde/Autostart/.directory |
| 19:43.07 | xerxes1979 | and then pasted this in the file : |
| 19:43.12 | xerxes1979 | /usr/local/scripts/modmapper |
| 19:43.12 | xerxes1979 | [Desktop Entry] |
| 19:43.13 | xerxes1979 | Type=Directory |
| 19:43.15 | xerxes1979 | Name=Autostart |
| 19:43.19 | xerxes1979 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:45.37 | Viking1 | how do you get mozilla to be your default browser instead of kde |
| 19:45.46 | fred87 | s/kde/konqueror/ |
| 19:45.48 | Viking1 | it I type: /usr/bin//mozilla |
| 19:45.54 | Viking1 | mozilla starts |
| 19:46.07 | Viking1 | but I want mozilla to start from the icon on the desktop |
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| 19:46.26 | Triskelios | Viking1: add an icon for mozilla then |
| 19:46.47 | Triskelios | Viking1: right-click, create new->link to application |
| 19:47.04 | xerxes1979 | grepper, any other suggestion ? |
| 19:47.19 | grepper | Viking1: edit the filetype for text/html |
| 19:47.31 | grepper | xerxes1979: you didn't do what I suggested |
| 19:47.52 | grepper | you want to run /usr/local/scripts/xmodmapper when kde starts ? |
| 19:48.23 | xerxes1979 | yes |
| 19:48.36 | xerxes1979 | I tried but I had an error |
| 19:48.48 | grepper | echo -e '#!/bin/sh \n/usr/local/scripts/modmapper'>~/.kde/Autostart/xmodmapper.sh |
| 19:48.58 | grepper | chmod +x ~/.kde/Autostart/xmodmapper.sh |
| 19:50.18 | xerxes1979 | grepper, I want this to be system wide please |
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| 19:51.03 | VictorYG | damn you! |
| 19:51.07 | VictorYG | j/k :D |
| 19:51.23 | Viking1 | thanks |
| 19:51.28 | Viking1 | ok created icon |
| 19:51.38 | Viking1 | but what about it defaulting to mozilla |
| 19:51.49 | grepper | xerxes1979: xmodmapper.desktop in /usr/share/autostart then I guess |
| 19:51.57 | Viking1 | where is text/html? |
| 19:52.10 | grepper | Viking1: edit the filetype for text/html |
| 19:52.23 | fred87 | grepper, if you do that, won't it make help:// and others not work? |
| 19:52.31 | grepper | kcmshell filetypes |
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| 19:53.03 | grepper | well, help:/ is a kioslave . . . |
| 19:53.21 | grepper | ask Viking1 when/if he's done ;) |
| 19:53.42 | fred87 | grepper, at least a year ago, if you set text/html to something other than konqy, help://foo would try to open in moz/whatever |
| 19:53.55 | grepper | fred87: ok |
| 19:54.38 | Viking1 | where is text/html? |
| 19:54.44 | Viking1 | sorry for my lameness |
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| 19:55.02 | muadib | anyone here use kpilot for the palm and have got the mail conduit to work ? |
| 19:55.11 | teatime | Viking1: kde components -> file associations |
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| 19:55.45 | teatime | Viking1: but it can't realy be done until kde-3.3 |
| 19:56.12 | grepper | fred87: nope, it works ok still |
| 19:56.26 | teatime | associating an app with text/html is NOT the same as selecting that app as the handler for http/https (which is what you really want) |
| 19:56.47 | grepper | teatime: where does it break down ? |
| 19:56.55 | grepper | php files I would assume |
| 19:56.58 | grepper | etc |
| 19:57.06 | teatime | many places, actually |
| 19:57.09 | fred87 | grepper, nah |
| 19:57.20 | fred87 | grepper, php files can send any content type, normally text/html |
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| 19:58.57 | teatime | grepper: for one, the KApplication::invokeBrowser() call ;) |
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| 19:59.38 | grepper | ok, going to stop telling people that |
| 19:59.55 | grepper | strange everyone has said "thanks, it worked" though ;) |
| 20:00.09 | teatime | it "sort of" works :) |
| 20:02.15 | fred87 | gnome has one afaik |
| 20:02.23 | fred87 | s/afaik/iirc/ |
| 20:02.34 | grepper | ah yes, kde 3.2.92 has a "Browser" selection in Component Chooser" |
| 20:02.40 | grepper | I had forgotten about that |
| 20:02.51 | fred87 | :O |
| 20:03.03 | fred87 | nice |
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| 20:09.55 | shadewind | okay... i'm gonna ask one more time, how can i make superkaramba start automatically with a theme? |
| 20:10.03 | gnoob | well, here is a question. I am using gentoo. maybe kind of a gentoo specific question but not sure. If I only want to install kcalc and not kdeutils. Is that possible? |
| 20:12.46 | grepper | probably not with gentoo |
| 20:12.54 | grepper | with debian you could |
| 20:12.57 | grepper | and others |
| 20:13.09 | gnoob | so how so with the others? Just curious. |
| 20:13.13 | fred87 | LFS you could :) |
| 20:13.31 | fred87 | any distro you can if you want to do it from source :) |
| 20:13.43 | shadewind | so fucking please help me on how to make superkaramba autostart with KDE with a theme |
| 20:13.48 | grepper | gnoob: apt-get install kcalc |
| 20:13.59 | gnoob | yikes shadewind calm down. |
| 20:14.04 | grepper | shadewind: since you asked so nicely |
| 20:14.59 | grepper | put superkaramba /path/to/theme/file in a shell script I would imagine |
| 20:16.10 | grepper | and put the shell script in your Autostart dir |
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| 20:18.32 | moreta | hi folks..anyone using windowmaker with the kde enabled? |
| 20:19.39 | shadewind | grepper: big thanks to you :) |
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| 20:20.45 | TinheadNed | 'lo |
| 20:21.03 | TinheadNed | can I get some help with kde 3.3beta2? |
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| 20:21.42 | grepper | shadewind: np |
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| 20:26.38 | TinheadNed | _KonvIRC: hello again :) |
| 20:27.12 | _KonvIRC | I can't seem to figure out why I can not set up a KHotkey to use my Windows button Win+Key to execute a command, however I can use Win+ANYOTHERMOD+Key and it works fine |
| 20:27.20 | _KonvIRC | TinheadNed: hi :) |
| 20:29.32 | _KonvIRC | ok let me modify that it is Win+F only other keys besides F will work. I think I must have a conflict in shorcuts perhaps though I'm not told where and Win+F doesn't seem to do anything. odd |
| 20:29.35 | TinheadNed | _KonvIRC: i dunno THAT much |
| 20:29.45 | _KonvIRC | TinheadNed: hehe d:P |
| 20:29.49 | TinheadNed | I'm hoping someone will help with my prob |
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| 20:41.05 | _KonvIRC | yay I found I did have a conflict and all is well |
| 20:41.42 | TinheadNed | _KonvIRC: hurrah |
| 20:41.55 | TinheadNed | _KonvIRC: if you can tell me why kopete and kontact don't work in kde 3.3 I'd be happy |
| 20:43.19 | eros | TinheadNed: blease describe you problem better.. |
| 20:43.44 | _KonvIRC | oh that's a good question. I am using CVS version of KDE and kopete has crashed numerously when I checked it out. it is likely yet to be complete at the moment |
| 20:44.39 | TinheadNed | kopete can't load any account plugins AT ALL. It's done this every time I upgrade - it used to fix itself when I changed my KDEDIR env to KDEDIRS, but not this time |
| 20:45.05 | TinheadNed | and kontact brings up an empty screen, and then crashes if I click on ANYTHING in it |
| 20:45.20 | TinheadNed | I've just been stracing kopete and I can't find where it opens the accounts |
| 20:53.10 | TinheadNed | tricky innit? |
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| 20:59.54 | TinheadNed | eros: any clue? |
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| 21:03.05 | vogella | TinheadNed: You changed KDEDIRS after compilation? |
| 21:03.31 | TinheadNed | vogella: gentoo has afaics - it's certainly correct when I check it manually |
| 21:03.51 | TinheadNed | is it DIRS or DIR? |
| 21:04.12 | vogella | I think KDEDIR is old, KDEDIRS is the correct one. |
| 21:04.42 | vogella | TinheadNed: Just set KDEDIRS correctly and recompile. |
| 21:04.50 | TinheadNed | recompile? |
| 21:05.07 | eros | TinheadNed: try with "kbuildsycoca --noincremental" and watch its output to find domething youre looking for.. |
| 21:05.35 | TinheadNed | I've got gentoo here - tinkering with the compile is difficult . . |
| 21:05.51 | vogella | TinheadNed: Ah, not KDE CVS? |
| 21:06.02 | eros | thiago: btw, I think you need to do a fresh new install starting from kdelibs and growing up kde into another path (is it installed over the previous?) |
| 21:06.13 | TinheadNed | I've reset both KDEDIRS and KDEDIR to /usr/kde/3.3/ which is the root of kde 3.3 |
| 21:06.24 | eros | oopz.. i wanted TinheadNed not t_hiago. |
| 21:06.49 | vogella | TinheadNed: Like eros said reinstall then. (Is gentoo not always compiling?) |
| 21:06.51 | eros | TinheadNed: even before installing the whole new kde? |
| 21:07.26 | TinheadNed | I can recompile kdenetwork no problem - but without changing anything first I don't see it doing anything different |
| 21:08.01 | vogella | TinheadNed: Compile arts, kdelibs and kdebase also (or install) |
| 21:08.25 | TinheadNed | hmm - okay |
| 21:08.37 | TinheadNed | for the record - the errors atm printed are: |
| 21:08.42 | TinheadNed | inInternal(const QString&)] Unable to find a plugin named 'kopete_msn'! |
| 21:08.43 | TinheadNed | libkopete: WARNING: [KopetePlugin* KopetePluginManager::loadPluginInternal(const QString&)] Unable to find a plugin named 'kopete_jabber'! |
| 21:08.43 | TinheadNed | libkopete: WARNING: [KopetePlugin* KopetePluginManager::loadPluginInternal(const QString&)] Unable to find a plugin named 'kopete_icq'! |
| 21:08.46 | TinheadNed | and a bunch more |
| 21:08.56 | TinheadNed | where can I check where it's looking for? |
| 21:09.20 | eros | TinheadNed: if you compile by hand, use the --enable-final flag if your system has lots of ram.. it will speed up the build. |
| 21:10.20 | TinheadNed | I wouldn't risk compiling by hand because gentoo puts all of kde in weird places |
| 21:10.22 | vogella | TinheadNed: CHeck $KDEDIRS/lib |
| 21:11.06 | vogella | TinheadNed: Should have something like ./lib/libkopete_msn_shared.la |
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| 21:11.35 | flawd | why does konqueror ignore css text justify? is it a bug? |
| 21:11.38 | TinheadNed | yup, got them |
| 21:12.26 | vogella | TinheadNed: what is your LD_LIBRARY_PATH? |
| 21:13.09 | flawd | hi btw |
| 21:13.13 | TinheadNed | not set in the current shell |
| 21:13.13 | flawd | ;) |
| 21:13.23 | TinheadNed | flawd: dunno, soz :0 |
| 21:13.40 | vogella | TinheadNed: I think you need to set it: LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$QTDIR/lib:$KDEDIRS/lib, export .... |
| 21:14.39 | TinheadNed | still no joy |
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| 21:14.56 | TinheadNed | think I'll leave it recompiling overnight - but I'm sure it must be something else |
| 21:16.08 | swimingly | is there anyway to put an icon for an online file storage site directory on the panel? |
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| 21:19.47 | flawd | nobody else noticed it? |
| 21:21.25 | TinheadNed | flawd: i use firefox more these days |
| 21:21.51 | flawd | well it's annoying |
| 21:22.11 | flawd | only browser I know that screws up the text justify |
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| 21:33.46 | vogella | flawd: Open a bug report then. |
| 21:34.41 | flawd | i might just do that |
| 21:35.35 | vogella | flawd: if you would like to this fixed you should. |
| 21:36.56 | ghetrino | text-align: ? |
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| 21:37.30 | vogella | Ok |
| 21:38.13 | flawd | ghetrino, text-align:justify; |
| 21:38.25 | Triskelios | vogella: donno when it broke, it worked fine earlier |
| 21:38.52 | vogella | flawd: you have a test page to look at? |
| 21:39.25 | Triskelios | http://pounamu.quasarnet.org/ is one |
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| 21:39.32 | flawd | www.jesperjacobsson.com |
| 21:39.36 | flawd | there |
| 21:39.40 | TinheadNed | ta for your help - bedtime now |
| 21:40.23 | flawd | vogella, see link above |
| 21:41.14 | Triskelios | eh |
| 21:41.19 | flawd | if you look at that site in some other browserm it will be justified |
| 21:41.23 | flawd | the text |
| 21:41.41 | Triskelios | the couple-of-months old copy of konq I have works fine with http://pounamu.quasarnet.org/ but not the other page |
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| 21:42.28 | flawd | Triskelios, weird, that page looks correct |
| 21:42.28 | vogella | flawd: Which version of kde are you using? |
| 21:42.32 | flawd | is it a syntax error? |
| 21:42.43 | flawd | my site is validated with w3c's validator |
| 21:42.48 | flawd | 4.01 transitional |
| 21:42.54 | flawd | vogella, moment |
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| 21:43.23 | flawd | vogella, 3.1.3 but it is the same error in the version that comes with mandrake 10 on the other machine |
| 21:43.38 | Ghost| | is 3.2.3 stable? |
| 21:43.43 | flawd | does it look justified for you vogella? |
| 21:43.49 | flawd | it didnt for Triskelios it seems |
| 21:43.54 | vogella | flawd: yes, with 3.3 beta 2 |
| 21:44.13 | flawd | vogella, oh. that is good. |
| 21:44.14 | Triskelios | it looks like it would with text-align: left here |
| 21:44.21 | Triskelios | yet the other page works, which is strange |
| 21:44.24 | flawd | Triskelios, same here |
| 21:44.38 | flawd | and I dont think there is a syntax error in my markup |
| 21:44.43 | flawd | since it is valid |
| 21:44.45 | flawd | check the button |
| 21:44.50 | flawd | to see the validation report |
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| 21:45.38 | Triskelios | yeah, it's fine |
| 21:46.21 | Triskelios | Ghost|: it's a "stable" release, if that's what you mean |
| 21:46.35 | Ghost| | ok :) |
| 21:46.35 | swimingly | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:46.45 | Ghost| | can I install via urpmi? |
| 21:47.11 | Ghost| | not that I find it through there :p |
| 21:47.49 | flawd | maybe it is something with the css on that page? |
| 21:48.07 | flawd | it is like: div.content {padding-left: 15%;padding-right: 15%;text-align: justify;font-size: small;} |
| 21:48.44 | flawd | while mine is <style type="text/css"> body { text-align:justify; } |
| 21:48.47 | Triskelios | yeah, it's in a div, not the body |
| 21:49.13 | flawd | but mine should work? |
| 21:49.35 | Triskelios | I don't see why not |
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| 21:49.46 | flawd | wb |
| 21:51.16 | flawd | 3.3 beta2... I'll download that and check with it |
| 21:52.31 | Ghost| | arg, what do you need to download for kde 3.2.3, cause i'm just-not-new with linux :p |
| 21:52.41 | Ghost| | call me a noob actually |
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| 21:55.09 | Triskelios | Ghost|: probably best to wait until there are packages for your linux distro |
| 21:55.20 | Ghost| | ok |
| 21:55.24 | Ghost| | mandrake btw |
| 21:56.33 | vogella | flawd: Sorry, I was wrong. Still is incorrect in beta 2. |
| 21:56.43 | Ghost|ZzZ | gnight |
| 21:56.51 | vogella | justified means centered? |
| 21:57.16 | Triskelios | vogella: nope, it's where all lines are of equal length (by adjusting spacing) |
| 21:57.24 | Triskelios | commonly used in print |
| 21:57.43 | flawd | ok vogella |
| 21:57.58 | flawd | good explanation of justify Triskelios |
| 21:59.22 | flawd | basicly what I want to know is if it is a bug on my site or in konqueror |
| 21:59.37 | Triskelios | I'd say it's konq's problem |
| 21:59.40 | flawd | I guess it should work since it is "valid" css and html by w3c |
| 22:00.25 | flawd | I have made a silly little browser report on the site |
| 22:00.41 | Triskelios | if you assign the the alignment for specific parts of the page, does that "fix" it? |
| 22:00.50 | flawd | how do you mean Triskelios? |
| 22:01.13 | Triskelios | like where mine had it set for the div |
| 22:01.52 | flawd | I don't know enough about css to do that, but I might do it later to make it work |
| 22:01.59 | Triskelios | ok |
| 22:02.33 | flawd | now I have seen an example that it CAN atleast do justified text |
| 22:02.41 | Triskelios | (you could always do e.g. <div style="text-align... in the code itself too) |
| 22:02.54 | flawd | nod |
| 22:03.06 | flawd | ty |
| 22:03.41 | Triskelios | np, hope someone looks at the bug report soon |
| 22:03.57 | flawd | I havn't reported it |
| 22:04.25 | flawd | I might do it sometime if I have the energy to |
| 22:04.34 | flawd | otherwise feel free to do it :) |
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| 22:08.44 | gh | hello |
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| 22:11.00 | vogella | flawd: does <style type="text/css"> |
| 22:11.00 | vogella | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:11.00 | vogella | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:11.00 | vogella | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:11.00 | vogella | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:11.01 | vogella | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:11.29 | vogella | I tried locally with your page and it looks "justified" to me. |
| 22:12.00 | flawd | vogella, ty. I will note it down and try it tomorrow |
| 22:12.02 | flawd | its late |
| 22:12.12 | vogella | flawd: night then. |
| 22:12.22 | flawd | thank you very much |
| 22:12.30 | vogella | ;-) |
| 22:13.32 | flawd | goodnight vogella and Triskelios |
| 22:13.34 | flawd | and all |
| 22:13.38 | flawd | have a nice day |
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| 22:13.51 | vogella | flawd: good night. |
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| 22:24.18 | seaSceaDa | n8 cu all |
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| 22:34.32 | fflush | how do i change the image, with the big K, in the kde k menu ? |
| 22:36.58 | Triskelios | fflush: it's go.png in your icon theme |
| 22:40.55 | fflush | oh thanx |
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| 22:49.35 | cxccxc | can't change color of tasks in the kde taskbar. Possible? |
| 22:51.43 | cxccxc | the taskbar itself is set to transparent |
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| 23:09.12 | swimingly | hmm there has to be another way other than paypal/ebay to buy something from an individual online (safely) ? this person lives in Canada... so paypal wouldnt work as far as paying virtually for shipping |
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| 23:48.32 | Viking1 | westurn union |
| 23:48.33 | Viking1 | :) |
| 23:48.39 | Viking1 | buy online |
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| 23:53.32 | swimingly | wonder if it would be safe |