| 00:00.02 | cowboybr | I am trying to update kde, |
| 00:00.02 | annma | yes, ask your question directly, cowboybr |
| 00:00.08 | Subvertir | *nod* don't ask to ask =) |
| 00:00.11 | annma | precise the distro |
| 00:00.22 | cowboybr | suse 9.1 |
| 00:00.44 | cowboybr | ok |
| 00:00.53 | cowboybr | i am just trying to be friendly |
| 00:00.54 | annma | ausing Yast? |
| 00:01.05 | cowboybr | yes |
| 00:01.10 | cowboybr | i am new to linux |
| 00:01.16 | cowboybr | yast2 |
| 00:01.19 | cowboybr | sorry |
| 00:02.44 | jadrian | cowboybr: I use SUSE/KDE |
| 00:02.52 | cowboybr | ok |
| 00:03.01 | cowboybr | i have a command yast2 |
| 00:03.11 | cowboybr | i dont know if that is what you are talking about |
| 00:03.19 | cowboybr | i have suse/kde |
| 00:03.25 | jadrian | cowboybr: you can update in lots of different ways |
| 00:03.34 | jadrian | you're trying to update to KDE 3.3, right? |
| 00:03.37 | cowboybr | yep |
| 00:03.52 | annma | and what happens as problem? |
| 00:04.09 | cowboybr | i just need to know the command or something |
| 00:04.09 | jadrian | cowboybr: any specific problem or you just wanna know how to do it |
| 00:04.12 | jadrian | ok |
| 00:04.17 | cowboybr | i just want to know how to do it |
| 00:04.34 | jadrian | Ok so I'll tell you how to do it using yast |
| 00:04.39 | jadrian | maybe it's the easiest way |
| 00:04.40 | cowboybr | ok |
| 00:05.11 | jadrian | first of all run YaST Control Center |
| 00:05.15 | jadrian | do you know how to do that? |
| 00:05.21 | cowboybr | yeah i got it up |
| 00:05.33 | jadrian | Software -> Change Source of installation |
| 00:05.55 | cowboybr | ok one sec |
| 00:06.12 | cowboybr | ok |
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| 00:06.35 | cowboybr | got it |
| 00:06.37 | jadrian | now there you should add a mirror for the KDE Updates |
| 00:06.46 | jadrian | it is located at |
| 00:07.10 | jadrian | ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/supplementary/KDE/update_for_9.1 (for suse 9.1) |
| 00:07.19 | jadrian | but you can use any other mirror |
| 00:07.33 | jadrian | for a list of German and International mirrors see: |
| 00:07.40 | jadrian | http://www.suse.de/en/private/download/ftp/germ_mirrors.html |
| 00:07.44 | jadrian | http://www.suse.de/en/private/download/ftp/int_mirrors.html |
| 00:07.50 | jadrian | and choose the one you prefer |
| 00:08.02 | jadrian | the main one which I just gave you works fine too |
| 00:08.37 | jadrian | So add that source, and enable it |
| 00:09.04 | jadrian | to make it default over others you can move it up on the list of sources |
| 00:09.48 | jadrian | ... |
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| 00:10.21 | jadrian | After that go to Install Packages, and you should have all the KDE 3.3 packages |
| 00:10.29 | jadrian | just mark them for update |
| 00:10.59 | Dhraakellian | cool |
| 00:11.19 | Dhraakellian | wish I had known that back when I was using suse 9.0 on our laptop |
| 00:11.22 | cowboybr | ok it says error on that server |
| 00:11.23 | jadrian | :) |
| 00:11.35 | jadrian | cowboybr: try another mirror then |
| 00:12.20 | cowboybr | ok i am working on tht |
| 00:12.27 | jadrian | cowboybr: maybe ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/ftp.suse.com/suse/i386/supplementary/KDE/update_for_9.1 |
| 00:12.40 | heath | later everyone |
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| 00:13.17 | zqxs | I must kill artsd any time I want to play RealOne player. is there possibly a way around this? |
| 00:13.29 | jadrian | Dhraakellian: I'd just wish there was a way to only see packages from a certain source |
| 00:13.35 | Theory | zqxs, you can use artsdsp |
| 00:13.37 | jadrian | Dhraakellian: it would make things even easier |
| 00:13.55 | Subvertir | zqxs: In KDE 3.3 (can't verify it's in 3.2) you can set a timeout for artsd |
| 00:14.02 | Subvertir | so that it'll release /dev/dsp after X seconds |
| 00:14.04 | jadrian | Dhraakellian: That way you could just ask to see everything from the KDE Update source |
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| 00:14.26 | cowboybr | how do i find one that is for kde? |
| 00:14.26 | jadrian | Dhraakellian: and just mark that stuff for upgrade, instead of searching through all the packages |
| 00:14.33 | jadrian | cowboybr: ? |
| 00:14.48 | cowboybr | are all of those mirrors for kde? |
| 00:14.48 | jadrian | cowboybr: I don't undesrtand |
| 00:14.53 | jadrian | cowboybr: yes |
| 00:14.55 | cowboybr | oh ok |
| 00:15.13 | jadrian | cowboybr: supplementary/KDE/update_for_9.1 <--- |
| 00:15.18 | jadrian | cowboybr: KDE ;) |
| 00:15.18 | simmerz | I'm trying to get K3B working. For some reason, while both cdrecord and cdrdao work fine, and K3B recognizes correctly both the DVD-ROM and the DVD+-RW drive, when i try to open the copy cd window, it wont let me choose a writer device. any ideas? |
| 00:15.52 | cowboybr | ok did that |
| 00:16.06 | jadrian | ok |
| 00:16.19 | jadrian | now go to "Install and Remove Software" |
| 00:16.30 | jadrian | and just mark the KDE stuff for update |
| 00:16.35 | cowboybr | ok |
| 00:16.37 | cowboybr | cool |
| 00:16.48 | cowboybr | that was easyer then i thought it was going to be |
| 00:17.05 | cowboybr | I heard it is a command u use in gentoo |
| 00:17.06 | jadrian | by selecting one package it will take care of the dependencies for it, and mark the needed ones for update too |
| 00:17.42 | jadrian | so if you choose to upgrade, say, kdepim |
| 00:17.46 | Dhraakellian | cowboybr: 'ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" emerge -uav kde' |
| 00:17.51 | jadrian | it should mark kdebase, libs, qt etc |
| 00:17.53 | jadrian | for upgrade |
| 00:18.09 | jadrian | anyway make sure all of those are in deed updated |
| 00:18.16 | jadrian | qt, arts etc |
| 00:18.36 | cowboybr | ok |
| 00:18.43 | Dhraakellian | and then cleaning out the old packages manually since KDE 3.2 and 3.3 are in different slots in portage |
| 00:19.28 | jadrian | In SUSE you can also use apt |
| 00:19.47 | jadrian | and there is a met-package for KDE |
| 00:20.08 | jadrian | but I haven't used apt for a while |
| 00:20.09 | zqxs | Theory: can I perhaps use artsdsp in the bacgkround for all apps? |
| 00:20.21 | jadrian | in fact I've just installed thing by hand using rpm |
| 00:21.05 | Theory | zqxs, artsdsp is designed for apps which are not arts aware, you don't need it for kde apps |
| 00:21.26 | Theory | to use it with a specific app (eg realplayer) the easiest way is to use the menu editor |
| 00:21.32 | Theory | and modify the real player entry |
| 00:21.43 | Theory | to call artsdsp |
| 00:22.09 | jadrian | :-/ |
| 00:22.13 | jadrian | sound always skips |
| 00:22.23 | jadrian | I have to stick with xmms |
| 00:22.36 | zqxs | Theory: ah yes I am anticipating all the editing of configuration and protocol files for non arts konqueror plugins in the future |
| 00:23.14 | Dhraakellian | and then I have arts output to esd |
| 00:25.45 | Theory | atm I have amarok outputting to xine outputting to artsd |
| 00:27.05 | Dhraakellian | I usually only use xine-engine when listening to a live-365 station |
| 00:28.11 | Subvertir | I'd just do killall -9 artsd;realplayer |
| 00:28.16 | Subvertir | but I'm lazy =) |
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| 00:28.54 | wnorrix | how can i create more stencils for kivio |
| 00:29.09 | Dhraakellian | Subvertir: I just keep an instance of ksysguard lying around |
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| 00:31.52 | zqxs | I guess the easiest way, keeping in mind I never actually start realplayer manually, just from konqueror, is to add artsdsp to /opt/bin/realone script, though ideally prefer artsdsp daemon |
| 00:32.49 | Dhraakellian | zqxs: kmenuedit |
| 00:32.59 | Dhraakellian | find the realplayer entry |
| 00:33.19 | Dhraakellian | add artsdsp to the beginning of the command listed for that entry |
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| 00:37.03 | Subvertir | Isn't there a dcop method to suspend artsd? |
| 00:37.10 | Subvertir | that seems like a better solution... |
| 00:38.59 | zqxs | Dhraakellian: I double checked, I think the menu is separate from konqueror's though it shouldn't be. I asked about this a while back, it seems it hasn't been fixed yet. when running an RTSP link from konqueror, the app run is defined by exec line in ~/.kde/share/services/rtsp.protocol if I'm not mistaken |
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| 01:03.47 | jorgp | I am using gftp inside KDE, how do I make the font bigger in gftp? |
| 01:04.29 | hondje | jorgp: gnome-control-center |
| 01:04.35 | hondje | only way I got that working |
| 01:05.01 | jorgp | I dont even have gnome-control-center installed |
| 01:06.22 | Dhraakellian | gtk-theme-switch or gtk-chtheme |
| 01:06.31 | Dhraakellian | both have sections for fonts |
| 01:06.48 | NamShub | jorgp: what distro? |
| 01:06.53 | Dhraakellian | or if you have a recent enough version of gtk-qt, there's a kcontrol module that it installs |
| 01:07.07 | jorgp | NamShub: gentoo |
| 01:11.46 | jorgp | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:12.37 | jorgp | hi annma |
| 01:12.53 | annma | hi jorgp :) |
| 01:13.29 | jorgp | annma: do you know of a way to increase font size of gftp from inside KDE? |
| 01:13.58 | annma | no, none if you don't have gnome control center |
| 01:14.12 | marcusU | Ugh. Those "G" apps are so annoying. |
| 01:14.39 | Dhraakellian | style "user-font" { |
| 01:14.39 | Dhraakellian | font_name = "Helvetica 8" |
| 01:14.39 | Dhraakellian | } |
| 01:14.39 | Dhraakellian | in your .gtkrc-2.0 ? |
| 01:14.40 | marcusU | There used to be a setting "apply fonts and colors to non-KDE apps" but I don't know if it really worked. |
| 01:14.54 | Dhraakellian | with a different font and size |
| 01:15.16 | Dhraakellian | gtk-chtheme ? |
| 01:15.50 | Dhraakellian | and if you used gtk-theme-switch, you'd have to do 'switch2' instead of 'switch' |
| 01:16.44 | Dhraakellian | (that stuff, along with some other stuff was put in the file by gtk-chtheme, btw) |
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| 01:41.34 | Invisible_Slack | How do you delete apps that aren't installed.. For Instance I installed Slack 9.1 and didn't install Gaim and Xchat but there icons are still in the menu selection how would I remove them without going one by one? |
| 01:43.29 | grepper | ~/.kde/share/applnk/ |
| 01:43.41 | grepper | or whatever your $KDEHOME is |
| 01:43.44 | grepper | check there |
| 01:45.18 | Invisible_Slack | Ok I see it but how do I update it without going one by one was the question |
| 01:45.35 | Invisible_Slack | There is a Menu Updater it updates for new apps is there one for checking apps and removing old ones? |
| 01:46.27 | Invisible_Slack | Or should I delete all the non system or tooks ones and use the Menu updater? |
| 01:48.33 | grepper | oh, you have kde apps there as well ? |
| 01:48.39 | grepper | what kde version ? |
| 01:48.53 | Invisible_Slack | KDE 3.1 |
| 01:48.56 | grepper | ah |
| 01:49.37 | grepper | 3.3 uses freedesktop.org standards generally now for menu stuff |
| 01:50.15 | grepper | really I don't understand it all |
| 01:50.21 | Invisible_Slack | Ok so you don't know how to help me then? |
| 01:50.29 | Invisible_Slack | Ok thanks for trying |
| 01:50.35 | grepper | try mv'ing the dir to applnk.old and see what happens |
| 01:51.37 | grepper | running kbuildsycoca --noincremental , or log out and in if that doesn't work |
| 01:52.26 | Invisible_Slack | what will that command do? |
| 01:53.30 | thiago | rebuild the sycoca |
| 01:53.43 | thiago | SYstem COnfiguration CAche |
| 01:54.34 | thiago | http://devel-home.kde.org/~granroth/LWE2000/html/slide_22.html |
| 01:54.47 | Invisible_Slack | ok I'll have to do that once I finish getting kernel |
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| 02:11.06 | khert | hello |
| 02:12.23 | khert | i need help, my file explorer broke. When i click on "home" on the desktop, all i get is explorer w/ no files showing |
| 02:12.58 | khert | and when i click on the "home" button in the menu, i get "Malformed URL ~" |