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| 00:02.15 | Tjozan | I have them on separate lines and it should work with bash both ways |
| 00:02.33 | tabmoW | sredna: couldn't really find much, although instead of /usr/kde3.3.1/... that it is pointing to now it should be just /usr/... |
| 00:03.05 | sredna | tabmoW: What is your KDEDIR and KDEDIRS? |
| 00:03.27 | tabmoW | sredna: echo $KDEDIR && echo $KDEDIRS both show nothing |
| 00:03.40 | sredna | Uhm, /usr is the default |
| 00:04.32 | tabmoW | sredna: when i installed kde3.3.1 i installed it to /usr/kde3.3.1 - since then i uninstalled it and put kde3.3.0 on from packages |
| 00:04.36 | tabmoW | which is installed into /usr |
| 00:04.52 | sredna | tabmoW: I can't help really, except for suggesting that you grep recursively for kde3.3.1 in ~/:KDE, tires as another user, cleans up in /tmp |
| 00:05.27 | sredna | ~/.kde |
| 00:05.28 | apt | methinks /.kde is gone too, where else? |
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| 00:08.30 | tabmoW | sredna: would you believe i ran a kbuildsycoca as root and it started working ? |
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| 00:14.40 | sredna | tabmoW: Yes, I'll believe you if you say so |
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| 00:18.46 | neko | does anyone know which rendering engine konqueror uses? |
| 00:18.59 | Renze | neko: khtml |
| 00:19.11 | neko | thanks |
| 00:19.46 | Renze | neko: it can also use the gecko engine |
| 00:19.59 | neko | and epiphany uses gecko? |
| 00:20.01 | Dhraakellian | neko: it should be possible to switch between khtml and gecko in the (near-) future |
| 00:20.10 | Dhraakellian | yes, epiphany uses gecko |
| 00:20.16 | neko | i thought so |
| 00:20.26 | Dhraakellian | afaik, epiphany is a successor of sorts to galeon |
| 00:20.33 | neko | does gecko have a bug tracker? |
| 00:21.17 | illogic-al | course it does |
| 00:21.47 | Dhraakellian | mozilla's bugzilla |
| 00:21.50 | neko | i've found a rendering where both khtml and IE agree, and which gecko based browsers aren't following |
| 00:21.50 | Dhraakellian | would be my guess |
| 00:21.52 | illogic-al | Renze: since when can konq use gecko? |
| 00:22.04 | canllaith | There used to be a project |
| 00:22.15 | canllaith | It was a ltitle while ago now |
| 00:22.17 | Dhraakellian | illogic-al: I think I heard that it's in CVS |
| 00:22.24 | Dhraakellian | I could be mistaken |
| 00:22.59 | Dhraakellian | the port that happened at akademy might have visible effects for end-users if such is true |
| 00:23.12 | thiago | maybe in kdenonbeta |
| 00:23.13 | illogic-al | Dhraakellian: qt interface to mozilla is in mozilla's cvs... |
| 00:23.58 | thiago | KDE > Qt |
| 00:23.59 | Dhraakellian | illogic-al: if there's a way to get it to work (mostly) reliably with Firefox, I'm (metaphorically) all ears |
| 00:24.02 | thiago | meaning it's larger, not better |
| 00:24.21 | illogic-al | I've never sucessfully built firefox |
| 00:24.51 | illogic-al | and as long as there are rpms and prebuilt tarballs, I'll never need or feel the desire to |
| 00:24.56 | canllaith | illogic-al: There was once a project where you could use gecko in konq. |
| 00:24.59 | canllaith | I have that on very good authority. |
| 00:25.13 | canllaith | You could select it in the services preference thing, apparently |
| 00:25.16 | illogic-al | canllaith: I know for a fact it existed |
| 00:25.31 | illogic-al | canllaith: I rememebr the rigt-click option that used to be in konqueror :-) |
| 00:25.48 | illogic-al | or was it a menu entry... |
| 00:25.49 | canllaith | ] <illogic-al> Renze: since when can konq use gecko? |
| 00:25.54 | canllaith | Since then :D |
| 00:26.07 | illogic-al | canllaith: that was ages ago, as in years |
| 00:26.12 | canllaith | So? |
| 00:26.29 | Renze | sorry, was in the kitchen :) |
| 00:26.38 | canllaith | Renze: Bring me one! I don't care what it is, I'll have one ;) |
| 00:27.00 | illogic-al | canllaith: so if konq isn't capable of doing it now it's not worth mentioning in that context |
| 00:27.06 | canllaith | Semantics |
| 00:27.35 | canllaith | :D you're a sweetheart... what's in it ? |
| 00:27.40 | neko | hi canllaith, hows you doing? |
| 00:27.44 | canllaith | Gday neko |
| 00:27.47 | canllaith | not bad, not bad |
| 00:27.49 | Renze | cheese, tomato relish, and luncheon |
| 00:27.53 | canllaith | mmmmmmmm |
| 00:28.21 | Dhraakellian | luncheon? |
| 00:28.35 | neko | luncheon meat? |
| 00:28.35 | canllaith | processed meat ? |
| 00:28.56 | neko | spamlike isn't it? |
| 00:28.58 | Renze | like slices off an enormous sausage :) |
| 00:29.06 | Renze | no, not like spam |
| 00:29.21 | canllaith | Or the really cheap processed devon |
| 00:29.21 | thiago | I do |
| 00:29.27 | neko | spam was nice |
| 00:29.51 | Dhraakellian | the "food" kind or the email |
| 00:30.03 | neko | (and no, that's not an excuse for anyone to sign me up for "hot XXX girls") |
| 00:30.24 | Renze | neko: too late :) |
| 00:30.42 | Dhraakellian | neko: spoilsport |
| 00:34.20 | neko | which one? |
| 00:34.37 | canllaith | Contacts on MSN not being able to be blocked |
| 00:34.45 | canllaith | heh which one he says... indeed! |
| 00:36.05 | Dhraakellian | although that might be because I use IRC a lot more than the other 5 chat protocols for which I have accounts |
| 00:36.18 | Dhraakellian | and Kopete mainly just sits there looking good |
| 00:37.05 | canllaith | I just don't like how it handles blocking ;) |
| 00:37.16 | canllaith | That is only in this version though previous one was fine |
| 00:39.08 | illogic-al | ah regressions. gotta love 'em. |
| 00:39.22 | canllaith | there were a few in recent head |
| 00:39.58 | illogic-al | after all the trouble i went through to build HEAD I go looking for the logitech mouse stuff and find nothing |
| 00:40.04 | canllaith | awwww |
| 00:40.05 | illogic-al | what a let down |
| 00:40.18 | illogic-al | oh well |
| 00:41.01 | illogic-al | waiting for comfort from canllaith... |
| 00:41.16 | canllaith | there there. |
| 00:41.58 | illogic-al | ellipsis |
| 00:42.44 | canllaith | :P |
| 00:44.05 | illogic-al | :) |
| 00:44.47 | Oleg_ | canllaith: create_makefiles couldn't fix it. I had to delete kdebase and download it again. |
| 00:44.58 | Oleg_ | canllaith: Now I'm compiling it |
| 00:45.12 | illogic-al | Oleg_: did you try make -f Makefile.cvs ? |
| 00:45.31 | Oleg_ | illogic-al: yeah. it didn't help |
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| 00:45.40 | Arelius | Heya |
| 00:45.56 | Arelius | is it possible to install and run KDE window decorations into a user account? |
| 00:45.58 | illogic-al | Oleg_: then you re-configured? |
| 00:46.05 | Oleg_ | illogic-al: yeah |
| 00:46.17 | illogic-al | Oleg_: curious |
| 00:46.20 | Oleg_ | illogic-al: and I still got the damn error |
| 00:46.35 | illogic-al | you didn't manually modify any makefiles did you? |
| 00:46.50 | Oleg_ | illogic-al: no |
| 00:47.07 | illogic-al | Oleg_: what error were you getting? |
| 00:47.29 | canllaith | Oleg did not do it correctly. |
| 00:47.45 | Oleg_ | illogic-al: something like no rule to make target something |
| 00:48.09 | Oleg_ | canllaith: I ran create_makefiles kdm from the top-level kdebase dir |
| 00:48.16 | Oleg_ | canllaith: it wasn't correct? |
| 00:48.31 | Arelius | is there anywhere in a user's homedirectory that KDE will search for Window decorations? |
| 00:49.06 | illogic-al | Oleg_: you're on call |
| 00:49.25 | Oleg_ | illogic-al: oh |
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| 00:49.28 | Arelius | illogic-al, thanks |
| 00:49.55 | diego | after upgrading to kde 3.3.1 on my laptop (it's called asus, running gentoo), when I try to tunnel X apps over ssh to it i get this error "Xlib: connection to "asus:0.0" refused by server". I'm guessing there was a change in the way kdm starts X - my current ps output is '/usr/X11R6/bin/X -auth /var/run/xauth/A:0-AIsMZd vt7'. Anyone know what the problem is? |
| 00:50.00 | Oleg_ | Arelius: I'm sorry; I dunno how to help you with your question |
| 00:50.06 | Oleg_ | Arelius: I am a newbie |
| 00:50.19 | Arelius | Oleg_, heh, don't worry about it |
| 00:50.34 | canllaith | diego: Do you do xhost+ export DISPLAY etc? |
| 00:50.41 | canllaith | diego: Or are you using xdmcp ....... ? |
| 00:50.50 | Arelius | Oleg_, do you know much about Window Deco installs at all? |
| 00:50.52 | diego | canllaith: nope, never have and it's always worked |
| 00:51.20 | canllaith | diego: Ok then well I would suggest doing so. I don't know how gentoo is setup as far as X auth goes by default... but that is what I have to do with Slackware. |
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| 00:51.43 | Oleg_ | Arelius: all I know about them is that we can choose between many different window decorations by changing its settings in the Control Center |
| 00:51.55 | canllaith | Just put xhost +hostname in your .xinitrc or.. something |
| 00:52.09 | Arelius | Oleg_, yeah, and I think the librarys are stored in a kde lib directory |
| 00:52.17 | Oleg_ | Arelius: but my knowledge of them doesn't extend beyond that |
| 00:52.25 | Arelius | Oleg_, kay |
| 00:52.28 | diego | canllaith: on the computer running the X server? |
| 00:52.50 | illogic-al | Arelius: ~/.kde/share/apps/kwin/icewm-themes is where icewm win decos are looked for |
| 00:52.57 | Dhraakellian | diego: I have similar problems... 'tis annoying |
| 00:53.00 | diego | wait that wouldn't make sense :P |
| 00:53.05 | Arelius | illogic-al, Thanks |
| 00:53.20 | canllaith | diego: Yes |
| 00:53.42 | Oleg_ | canllaith: was it wrong or right to run create_makefiles kdm the way I did? |
| 00:53.44 | canllaith | On the computer running the X server that says the connection is refused |
| 00:53.49 | illogic-al | Arelius: you can also copy themes to ~/.kde/share/apps/kwin/ once they have been built |
| 00:53.54 | Dhraakellian | (so that I know if I need to scale back on my bittorrent activity) |
| 00:54.09 | illogic-al | Dhraakellian: why not just use ksysguard? |
| 00:54.41 | Dhraakellian | illogic-al: what would that require? |
| 00:54.51 | diego | hmm...doesn't seem to have helped |
| 00:54.51 | illogic-al | ksysguard |
| 00:54.56 | illogic-al | :-) |
| 00:55.05 | Dhraakellian | and would I be able to get it to sit right next to my other gkrellm that's running locally |
| 00:55.06 | Dhraakellian | ? |
| 00:55.09 | Dhraakellian | !;) |
| 00:55.20 | Dhraakellian | illogic-al: what would it entail doing in ksysguard |
| 00:55.22 | Dhraakellian | ? |
| 00:55.43 | illogic-al | Dhraakellian: Don't know exactly but I do know it's possible |
| 00:55.58 | Dhraakellian | bah! |
| 00:56.01 | Dhraakellian | Bah, I say! |
| 00:56.02 | Dhraakellian | !;) |
| 00:56.37 | canllaith | diego: What exactly are you doing? |
| 00:56.50 | canllaith | To xfoward an application on the local machine I a: xhost+ |
| 00:56.57 | canllaith | b: ssh newmachine |
| 00:57.05 | canllaith | c: export DISPLAY=oldmachine:0 |
| 00:57.08 | canllaith | Then run the apps |
| 00:57.33 | Arelius | illogic-al, and what constitutes a window decoration? anything more then a .so? |
| 00:57.51 | diego | canllaith: to run k3b on my fileserver that has no monitor i have always ran `ssh -X server` on my laptop, then on the secure shell: `k3b` and that's it |
| 00:57.52 | illogic-al | the stuff in here /usr/share/apps/kwin/ |
| 00:58.02 | illogic-al | Arelius: --^ |
| 00:58.10 | Arelius | illogic-al, yeah |
| 00:58.22 | canllaith | diego: Well, you can continue doing that if you like :) If it is no longer working for you I'd suggest that a way that does work would be more helpful. |
| 00:58.53 | Oleg_ | canllaith: was it wrong or right to run create_makefiles kdm the way I did? |
| 00:58.59 | diego | canllaith: umm...yeah agreed but your way doesn't seem to be doing anything for me either..anyway i'm gonna eat dinner |
| 00:59.18 | canllaith | gah |
| 00:59.20 | canllaith | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:59.28 | canllaith | Oleg_: stfu, please |
| 00:59.35 | Oleg_ | stfu? |
| 00:59.38 | canllaith | I'm getting you popping up on every bloody workspace and it's very annoying. |
| 00:59.43 | diego | lol...owned... |
| 00:59.46 | canllaith | Stop whining and asking the same thing over and over |
| 00:59.46 | Oleg_ | me? |
| 00:59.48 | Dhraakellian | (gkrellm:28321): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: |
| 00:59.53 | Dhraakellian | when I try to run gkrellm |
| 00:59.54 | Oleg_ | sorry |
| 01:00.26 | Oleg_ | I guess that means I ran create_makefiles correctly |
| 01:00.31 | Dhraakellian | yay! |
| 01:00.32 | Dhraakellian | it worked |
| 01:00.56 | Dhraakellian | diego: thanks! |
| 01:01.42 | Arelius | illogic-al, now, is there a way I can debug the loading of the windeco? so I can find out what it is missing? |
| 01:02.15 | illogic-al | Arelius: there probably is but I dont know it |
| 01:02.21 | Arelius | illogic-al, okay |
| 01:02.59 | Arelius | illogic-al, where do KDE librarys go? |
| 01:03.41 | illogic-al | `kde-config --prefix`/lib |
| 01:04.43 | illogic-al | Qt: 3.3.3 |
| 01:04.43 | illogic-al | KDE: 3.3.1 |
| 01:04.44 | illogic-al | kde-config: 1.0 |
| 01:04.48 | illogic-al | woot |
| 01:05.28 | illogic-al | I hardly ever use >x.x.2 versions though |
| 01:05.57 | Oleg_ | canllaith: this is something new coming from you. Not answering questions. |
| 01:06.17 | Oleg_ | canllaith: it's interesting when people do unexpected things |
| 01:06.52 | Oleg_ | a good program is on PBS now |
| 01:07.00 | Oleg_ | about the first Americans |
| 01:07.09 | canllaith | I'm busy eating bacon/drinking tea/filing bugs/editing files and talking to much, much more important people :) |
| 01:07.20 | illogic-al | lol |
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| 01:08.07 | Oleg_ | canllaith: but you used to answer questions related to kde if those questions were asked even by unimportant people |
| 01:08.20 | Oleg_ | canllaith: it's fine with me |
| 01:08.24 | canllaith | Not in the middle of eating/drinking/filing bugs/editing files and talking :) |
| 01:08.26 | Oleg_ | canllaith: it's just interesting |
| 01:08.28 | canllaith | Give me 5 minutes ;) |
| 01:08.31 | Oleg_ | hehe |
| 01:09.15 | Oleg_ | canllaith: Now I feel better. Thanks to God, you are still nice :) |
| 01:09.50 | Oleg_ | or is it thanks God without to? |
| 01:10.01 | canllaith | Either is correct enough |
| 01:10.07 | Oleg_ | ok |
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| 01:12.03 | Renze | mmmmm... bacon... |
| 01:12.53 | turdfergusson | top o' the evenin' to ye |
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| 01:14.37 | jorgp | wonder what happen. I just installed all of head and the kmenu button or anything on the bottom bar |
| 01:14.38 | turdfergusson | hehe hi Renze :] |
| 01:14.39 | cheale1 | hi, who can suggest a program that matches MsPaint and works in KDE? |
| 01:15.00 | Renze | kolourpaint, and koffice |
| 01:15.00 | turdfergusson | cheale1: I use Kolour |
| 01:15.33 | canllaith | kolourpaint is very paint like |
| 01:15.47 | cheale1 | kolour...should that be in debian (sarge)? |
| 01:15.57 | canllaith | If you are using >= 3.3.0 |
| 01:16.07 | canllaith | (KDE) |
| 01:16.13 | cheale1 | koffice, is there a more precise component? |
| 01:16.22 | cheale1 | canllaith: 3.2.2 or 3.2.3 :( |
| 01:16.30 | Renze | works is an office suite, is it not? |
| 01:16.39 | canllaith | In that case.... you can probably download the sources for kolourpaint |
| 01:16.45 | canllaith | It wont have come with your KDE though |
| 01:17.51 | turdfergusson | thanks for reminding me.. I have to print off 40 flyers for a friend at work who's friend died and there holding a candlelight vigil in his name :) |
| 01:18.05 | canllaith | :) That's nice |
| 01:18.07 | amaroK | :-D |
| 01:18.32 | turdfergusson | I'm just that kind of guy *struts* |
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| 01:18.37 | cheale1 | Renze: how do you access the program in koffice? |
| 01:18.45 | canllaith | Gday marcusU |
| 01:18.48 | Renze | cheale1: what program? |
| 01:18.59 | Renze | cheale1: please be more specific |
| 01:19.00 | marcusU | hi canllaith |
| 01:19.34 | cheale1 | Renze: I asked you if there was a more particular program in koffice that would be like kolourpaint...what's that program? |
| 01:20.15 | Renze | cheale1: you misunderstood... you asked for MSpaint and works equivalents... kolourpaint is the MSpaint equivalient, koffice is the works equivalient |
| 01:20.58 | cheale1 | Renze: oh, we misunderstood, I was asking a program like MsPaint that worked in kde. so it's up to KDE 3.3 eh... :| |
| 01:21.05 | jorgp | thiago: you around? |
| 01:21.11 | thiago | jorgp: no :) |
| 01:21.17 | jorgp | thiago: ok great |
| 01:21.28 | jorgp | thiago: you using head? |
| 01:22.15 | Renze | marcusU: I've seen some around |
| 01:22.18 | thiago | jorgp: yes, I generally use my head :) |
| 01:22.19 | canllaith | marcusU: Yep :) |
| 01:22.20 | thiago | (yes) |
| 01:22.25 | marcusU | Why idea where? |
| 01:22.32 | illogic-al | marcusU: Apple I think |
| 01:22.36 | thiago | jorgp: build dated Oct 30th |
| 01:22.41 | canllaith | cheale1: You can probably download the sources of kolourpaint and build it on your older KDE |
| 01:22.50 | marcusU | illogic-al: Apple makes PC keyboards? |
| 01:23.11 | illogic-al | marcusU: apple makes keyboards. |
| 01:23.11 | canllaith | I think they have usb ones |
| 01:23.16 | marcusU | I want someone that keeps my moues closer in. I think having the mouse so far to the right aggravates my shoulder muscles. |
| 01:23.32 | illogic-al | I thought all keyboards were created equal |
| 01:23.40 | illogic-al | except for those "special" buttons |
| 01:23.43 | jorgp | thiago: mine was built as of this morning, but for some reason I have no kmenu or anything showing up on the bottom panel |
| 01:23.43 | Arelius | Is there any way I can get make KDE looks somewhere in my home directory for librarys? |
| 01:23.49 | canllaith | illogic-al: Goodness no. |
| 01:23.51 | Renze | I've seen tiny USB keyboards with no numeric keypad... they were designed for set top boxes, but work on anything else |
| 01:23.57 | jorgp | thiago: I removed Desktop and .kde, still nothing |
| 01:23.59 | canllaith | marcusU: http://www.crystalvisions.com/compactkeyboards.htm |
| 01:24.08 | thiago | jorgp: KDEDIRS set up correctly? |
| 01:24.08 | marcusU | Either that, or I need to learn to use the mouse with the left hand. |
| 01:24.33 | canllaith | marcusU: You may also find learning to use an ergonomic keyboard is friendlier :) |
| 01:24.35 | cheale1 | canllaith: thanks for the advice, it's just that I use to avoid compiling stuff |
| 01:24.36 | illogic-al | marcusU: always opt for the easy way out :-) |
| 01:24.42 | diego|food | Dhraakellian: np hehe |
| 01:24.44 | canllaith | I know I have far less back/shoulder problems when I use one. |
| 01:24.51 | cheale1 | the only thing I compiled yet was to get a kernel panic |
| 01:24.52 | marcusU | It's not the keyboard that's the problem. It's reaching for the mouse. |
| 01:25.11 | jorgp | thiago: ah, KDEDIRS was point to wrong place |
| 01:25.28 | marcusU | I have a Memorex keyboard. Some of the keys are melting. |
| 01:25.39 | illogic-al | ew |
| 01:25.45 | illogic-al | MS anything sucks |
| 01:25.48 | canllaith | Of course it does |
| 01:25.54 | illogic-al | Dells are nice but featureless |
| 01:26.04 | marcusU | I got rid of my Key Tronic keyboard after 11 years recently. |
| 01:26.07 | canllaith | You keep telling yourself that, because it's cool to bag microsoft. |
| 01:26.13 | canllaith | You're a really cool dude. |
| 01:26.23 | illogic-al | canllaith: yes. yes I am :-) |
| 01:26.32 | turdfergusson | I sense an extreme amount of coolness going down... is everything okay? |
| 01:26.37 | canllaith | Well I'm a little stuck with this Dell keyboard |
| 01:26.48 | canllaith | Since it's holding my motherboard in |
| 01:26.50 | diego | this sounds like a good time to step out of the X session and try starting another one :P |
| 01:26.57 | *** part/#kde diego (~diego@user-0cetu9t.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 01:27.01 | illogic-al | lol |
| 01:30.29 | jorgp | thiago: thanks |
| 01:32.00 | thiago | jorgp: did it solve? |
| 01:32.06 | turdfergusson | hey guys, what would be a good choice program to use to say make a simple flyer with like... one graphic with? |
| 01:32.27 | Renze | kword |
| 01:32.43 | Renze | or oowriter |
| 01:32.46 | turdfergusson | renz; thanks :) |
| 01:33.05 | jorgp | thiago: I dont know, gentoo setup all it's paths /usr/kde/3.3 |
| 01:33.13 | jorgp | thiago: but I put it in ~/kde |
| 01:33.36 | jorgp | thiago: so I am just moving everything to /usr/kde/3.3 |
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| 01:36.15 | marcusU | Ugh. This mouse is designed not to fit well for the left hand. |
| 01:36.29 | marcusU | My good old bus mouse was symmetrical. |
| 01:36.50 | marcusU | Well, maybe it's just me. It looks okay now. |
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| 01:40.51 | Dhraakellian | hmm |
| 01:41.00 | Dhraakellian | well, I have gkrellm running remotely |
| 01:41.05 | Dhraakellian | just one problem |
| 01:41.12 | Dhraakellian | my dad doesn't have the invisible theme |
| 01:42.35 | thiago | that means he can see stuff? |
| 01:42.49 | Dhraakellian | heh |
| 01:43.08 | Dhraakellian | it means that it looks out of place with my pretty (pseudo-)transparent gkrellm |
| 01:52.10 | turdfergusson | will kword allow for proper formatting when used on a windows computer? after I finish making this flyer I'll need to send it to my girlfriends pc downstairs via the network and make her print it off as the drivers for my printer aren't installed yet and I don't have the time to do it yet hehe |
| 01:53.19 | thiago | I didn't know kword ranon Windows computers |
| 01:53.28 | canllaith | turdfergusson: Mostly, just keep it simple |
| 01:53.35 | canllaith | You might find save as-> html a bit better for that though |
| 01:53.42 | turdfergusson | canllaith: cool thanks :) |
| 01:54.15 | thiago | or export to PDF |
| 01:54.16 | canllaith | Yep :) |
| 01:54.23 | turdfergusson | oh nice :) |
| 01:54.26 | canllaith | Cause with propreitry formats like word you never can tell how it is going to look on someone elses pc |
| 01:54.53 | Renze | pdf is very useful for moving between different systems... it always looks the same |
| 01:55.18 | Renze | I used it a lot at university so I could print stuff in the labs |
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| 01:59.44 | turdfergusson | i take it i need some kind of plugin installed to export as .pdf? |
| 02:00.06 | Renze | turdfergusson: print to PDF |
| 02:01.10 | turdfergusson | print to PDF? that the plugin name? |
| 02:01.27 | Renze | turdfergusson: no, go to print the page, but print it to a PDF file instead |
| 02:02.03 | turdfergusson | oh ok.. done.. now I hit print? |
| 02:02.17 | Renze | turdfergusson: yes |
| 02:02.49 | turdfergusson | Renze: awesome! thanks for your help :) |
| 02:02.55 | Renze | no problem |
| 02:17.03 | Oleg_ | make[4]: *** No rule to make target `themer/libkdmthemer.a', needed by `kdm_greet'. Stop. |
| 02:17.03 | Oleg_ | make[4]: Leaving directory `/src/kdebase/kdm/kfrontend' |
| 02:17.03 | Oleg_ | make[3]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 |
| 02:17.03 | Oleg_ | make[3]: Leaving directory `/src/kdebase/kdm/kfrontend' |
| 02:17.07 | Oleg_ | canllaith: help! |
| 02:17.12 | Oleg_ | canllaith: please! |
| 02:17.44 | Oleg_ | canllaith: I gotta run create_makefiles kdm from the top level kdebase directory? |
| 02:18.13 | thiago | or from themer |
| 02:18.54 | Oleg_ | there is no themer directory |
| 02:18.55 | marcusU | kwrite takes too long to load my 86 MB log file. :-( |
| 02:19.16 | Oleg_ | actually let me check |
| 02:20.02 | Oleg_ | yeah, there is themer dir |
| 02:20.27 | Oleg_ | create_makefiles kdm |
| 02:20.27 | Oleg_ | find: kdm: No such file or directory |
| 02:20.44 | Oleg_ | that's what I got after running it in the themer dir |
| 02:21.00 | thiago | try just "create_makefiles" |
| 02:22.52 | Oleg_ | thiago: ok, create_makefiles created a makefile in that dir, but I still get the error! |
| 02:23.28 | Oleg_ | No rule to make target `themer/libkdmthemer.a', needed by `kdm_greet'. Stop. |
| 02:23.53 | thiago | did you have a Makefile in there before? |
| 02:24.03 | Oleg_ | thiago: I don't know |
| 02:24.15 | thiago | go in themer and run "make" |
| 02:25.44 | Oleg_ | ok, finished running make |
| 02:27.19 | Oleg_ | thiago: thanks! everything works properly now! you are the man! |
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| 02:31.15 | Thr1cE | can I only have an hourglass when I click on an app to load it, and not have the icon bounce under my cursor? |
| 02:31.35 | Dhraakellian | yes |
| 02:31.48 | Thr1cE | any idea how? |
| 02:31.55 | Dhraakellian | just a sec |
| 02:31.56 | Thr1cE | i keep looking under mouse, but can't find anything |
| 02:32.34 | Dhraakellian | Appearance & Themes > Launch Feedback > Busy Cursor |
| 02:32.35 | canllaith | Thr1cE: Appearance & Themes->Launch Feedback |
| 02:32.41 | canllaith | hahaha Dhraakellian |
| 02:32.54 | Dhraakellian | s/->/>/ |
| 02:33.11 | canllaith | Why? |
| 02:33.42 | Thr1cE | thanks :) |
| 02:33.45 | Dhraakellian | "No, we already thought of that one. It doesn't fit the question." |
| 02:33.57 | Dhraakellian | s/question/answer |
| 02:34.12 | turdfergusson | just so everyone knows |
| 02:34.20 | turdfergusson | tar -czf /backup.tar.gz / --exclude proc --exclude backup.tar.gz will take decades to complete lol |
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| 02:35.21 | Dhraakellian | how big is your root partition? |
| 02:35.34 | turdfergusson | Dhraakellian: not real sure to be quite honest |
| 02:35.45 | Dhraakellian | "big" |
| 02:35.55 | turdfergusson | anyway of telling? |
| 02:36.00 | turdfergusson | like how much is actually used |
| 02:36.12 | Dhraakellian | df -h? |
| 02:36.38 | turdfergusson | Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on |
| 02:36.38 | turdfergusson | /dev/hdb1 35G 14G 19G 43% / |
| 02:36.50 | turdfergusson | heh 14Gigs |
| 02:36.51 | turdfergusson | wow |
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| 02:37.41 | Dhraakellian | 31GB for me |
| 02:37.59 | turdfergusson | was going to downgrade this hdd to a 15gig disk cuz i'm gonna use this 40gig for my xbox but man.. i'll be cutting it close it looks like |
| 02:38.15 | Thr1cE | lol |
| 02:38.34 | turdfergusson | I run linux on everything now |
| 02:38.38 | turdfergusson | got Xebian on my xbox |
| 02:38.44 | turdfergusson | Slackware on my PC |
| 02:38.49 | turdfergusson | netBSD on my toaster |
| 02:38.50 | turdfergusson | lol |
| 02:38.55 | Thr1cE | toaster? |
| 02:38.58 | Thr1cE | seriously? |
| 02:39.03 | turdfergusson | Thr1cE: joke :p |
| 02:39.10 | Dhraakellian | one of these days, I'm gonna do something about it |
| 02:39.13 | Thr1cE | usually i would've notcied that |
| 02:39.15 | Dhraakellian | doorstop? |
| 02:39.20 | turdfergusson | Thr1cE: lol |
| 02:39.23 | Thr1cE | but tonight i talked to someone trying to put it on a microwave |
| 02:39.30 | turdfergusson | LOL |
| 02:39.43 | Thr1cE | lol |
| 02:39.57 | Oleg_ | so what's new in today's cvs? |
| 02:40.01 | Dhraakellian | cascading LOLs? |
| 02:40.06 | turdfergusson | haha |
| 02:40.13 | thiago | Oleg_: lists.kde.org, click on kde-cvs :) |
| 02:40.21 | thiago | Oleg_: or, join #kde-commits |
| 02:40.28 | turdfergusson | what is all this cvs stuff I hear so much of? |
| 02:40.43 | Dhraakellian | concurrent version system |
| 02:40.56 | thiago | turdfergusson: it's where KDE code is stored |
| 02:41.05 | Dhraakellian | useful if you want the latest bleeding edge stuff |
| 02:41.09 | turdfergusson | ah, so source is stored upon that site? |
| 02:41.25 | thiago | note a site |
| 02:41.29 | thiago | CVS is a program |
| 02:41.31 | Thr1cE | turdfergusson, i haven't seen you in #slackware in awhile =\ |
| 02:41.39 | turdfergusson | i'm not that anal that I NEED such bleeding edge builds or w/e lol |
| 02:41.42 | thiago | the site is cvs.kde.org, actually |
| 02:42.00 | turdfergusson | Thr1cE: yeah, got banned cuz they tried saying I said a "racial" comment in which i didn't >:( |
| 02:42.15 | Thr1cE | i'm sorry |
| 02:42.25 | turdfergusson | just so happened to be my brother in law using my computer as a "joke" i guess |
| 02:42.33 | turdfergusson | I have since kicked his ass lol |
| 02:43.04 | turdfergusson | I'm not a big fan of phrag anyways, DrSand is my pal still though |
| 02:43.06 | Thr1cE | lol |
| 02:43.13 | Thr1cE | yeah |
| 02:43.30 | turdfergusson | I host his tuts on my website |
| 02:43.34 | Dhraakellian | sounds like he's a stupid <member of a race to which no one here belongs>. adopted brother? |
| 02:43.36 | turdfergusson | www.conley-family.com/drsand |
| 02:43.39 | Dhraakellian | !;) |
| 02:43.56 | Thr1cE | sandman1 is so intelligent when it comes to slackware |
| 02:43.59 | Thr1cE | and is only 16 |
| 02:44.04 | turdfergusson | yeah |
| 02:45.03 | turdfergusson | I told phrag that I didn't say such comments as was said nor do I care to try and explain things to him as I was unable to prove it too him as my handle was used when my bro in law said it so... I haven't bothered them and they don't bother me |
| 02:45.23 | Dhraakellian | ah... -in-law |
| 02:45.30 | turdfergusson | yeah, he's an idiot |
| 02:45.34 | Thr1cE | aah |
| 02:45.37 | Thr1cE | oh well |
| 02:45.56 | Thr1cE | turdfergusson, talk to unixfool |
| 02:46.29 | turdfergusson | Thr1cE: I may one day :) |
| 02:49.47 | turdfergusson | those fools should have known I would never use such language in there, so I figure they loose out on getting to chatters with me as I lighten a room with my boyish charm |
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| 02:50.18 | turdfergusson | :p |
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| 02:50.30 | effy-kun | anyone ever used Kino? |
| 02:50.43 | turdfergusson | not me! |
| 02:51.00 | turdfergusson | I've played "as" Kano on Mortal Kombat though.. |
| 02:51.07 | turdfergusson | although I doubt you wanted to hear that :s |
| 02:51.28 | Oleg_ | It's still not possible to put the kaskbar inside the panel |
| 02:52.05 | effy-kun | mpeg editing software is in a sorry state on Linux |
| 02:52.23 | turdfergusson | oh man |
| 02:52.26 | turdfergusson | let me tell yah |
| 02:52.53 | turdfergusson | when it comes to media such as video... windows stomps a mudhole in ANY linux distro or software out there |
| 02:53.02 | turdfergusson | and that's real hard for me to say |
| 02:53.12 | thiago | huh? |
| 02:53.13 | turdfergusson | as i DESPISE windows with every fiber in my being |
| 02:53.20 | aseigo_work | for low-to-mid-range video, yes |
| 02:53.23 | thiago | mplayer plays any media file I throw at it |
| 02:53.30 | aseigo_work | thiago: i think they mean editting |
| 02:53.33 | turdfergusson | I'm speaking of encoding |
| 02:53.38 | aseigo_work | as in non-linear editors |
| 02:53.43 | thiago | mencoder encodes fine |
| 02:53.47 | thiago | editing, that I don't know |
| 02:54.04 | turdfergusson | encode/decode ;p |
| 02:54.16 | thiago | it's what they say: "necessity is the mother of invention" |
| 02:54.26 | thiago | encoding/decoding here works fine |
| 02:55.36 | turdfergusson | I have yet to find a linux package to encode a movie in linux that would work somewhat decent.. even a very badly encoded movie in windows could produce a better end result than the highest quality linux encode :( but i do love the Ogg Vorbis encodes though.. there very nice and making alot of leadway |
| 02:55.41 | Dhraakellian | amarok: I'm testing something |
| 02:55.49 | amaroK | Dhraakellian: Something like no rule to make target something. |
| 02:56.02 | thiago | turdfergusson: mencoder, transcode, ffmpeg |
| 02:56.19 | thiago | encoding with lavc with some nice parameters, using mencoder, produces really great results |
| 02:56.25 | Oleg_ | Dhraakellian: why are you talking to the bot all of a sudden? |
| 02:56.58 | turdfergusson | amaroK: is a bot? |
| 02:57.07 | Oleg_ | yeah |
| 02:57.09 | turdfergusson | lol |
| 02:57.19 | amaroK | turdfergusson: Using something like an imagemagick frontend that can make a on large strip of images in one more reason to not have them on separate lines and it is a bot? |
| 02:57.19 | turdfergusson | amaroK: hi there |
| 02:57.20 | Dhraakellian | heh |
| 02:57.27 | amaroK | turdfergusson: There used to be there? |
| 02:57.33 | Dhraakellian | you didn't figure that out? |
| 02:57.35 | turdfergusson | lol |
| 02:57.37 | turdfergusson | no hah |
| 02:57.53 | turdfergusson | amaroK: what is KDE? |
| 02:57.54 | Dhraakellian | !;) |
| 02:58.01 | Dhraakellian | calc KDE |
| 02:58.03 | amaroK | * KDE = The K Desktop Environment: http://www.kde.org [added by: ~Dhraakellian] |
| 02:58.06 | thiago | don't talk to the bot |
| 02:58.09 | thiago | :) |
| 02:58.09 | amaroK | turdfergusson: I got ut2003 for "free" and then i uninstalled it and put kde3.3.1/... That it is possible to put it in ~/kde. |
| 02:58.27 | turdfergusson | lol |
| 02:58.40 | Oleg_ | amaroK is my main man |
| 02:58.41 | turdfergusson | strange bot |
| 02:58.58 | amaroK | Oleg_: Man, gentoo is getting popular with the way kdm starts x - my current ps output is '/usr/x11r6/bin/x -auth /var/run/xauth/a:0-aismzd vt7'. Anyone know what "kswap0" is? |
| 02:59.43 | Oleg_ | amaroK is my main gal |
| 03:00.02 | amaroK | Oleg_: To xfoward an application on the main act and do i want to be my brother in law using my computer as a "joke" i guess. |
| 03:00.14 | turdfergusson | ROFL |
| 03:00.16 | turdfergusson | wtf |
| 03:01.00 | Oleg_ | amaroK: you are a funny bot |
| 03:01.19 | amaroK | Oleg_: And i cant see a song with no album cover, and i think i have a problem out of the fact that eingetragener verein is funny. |
| 03:01.48 | Oleg_ | amaroK is amazing |
| 03:01.59 | amaroK | Oleg_: "This is absurd because konqueror is treating folders and files as being the. |
| 03:02.15 | Oleg_ | muhahaha |
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| 03:03.49 | turdfergusson | well, tis my beddie bye time :( |
| 03:03.53 | turdfergusson | nite all |
| 03:03.57 | Oleg_ | bye |
| 03:04.14 | annma | nite turdfergusson |
| 03:04.53 | Oleg_ | amaroK: chilling? |
| 03:05.07 | amaroK | Oleg_: I guess what i got after running it in a single tab as originally, without removing old conf. |
| 03:06.25 | Oleg_ | amaroK: . |
| 03:06.32 | amaroK | Oleg_: My needs aren't being met. |
| 03:07.28 | Oleg_ | amaroK: what are your needs? |
| 03:07.39 | amaroK | Oleg_: Someone needs to make sure they are not executed, they are very practical. |
| 03:08.10 | Oleg_ | amaroK: whatcha mean? |
| 03:08.20 | amaroK | Oleg_: I mean, he's not a kde problem. |
| 03:09.05 | Oleg_ | amaroK: ! |
| 03:09.16 | amaroK | Oleg_: Listen, i asked you if there is a virtual mchine. |
| 03:09.31 | Oleg_ | amaroK: ? |
| 03:09.40 | amaroK | Oleg_: Nope ... Still enjoying being on vacation .. |
| 03:09.46 | Oleg_ | hehe |
| 03:09.55 | Oleg_ | amaroK: ?. |
| 03:10.15 | amaroK | Oleg_: You need a brainfuck compiler, but it?s hard to find contexts between words, and then finally makes ups phrases that are supposed to make the commands public, but to no avail so far. |
| 03:11.11 | Oleg_ | amaroK: brainfuck compiler |
| 03:11.30 | amaroK | Oleg_: Oh max this is fucking good, because the original bf compiler was about the only thing i compiled the compiler ... Now i onl must know how to do. |
| 03:12.07 | Oleg_ | amaroK: onl |
| 03:12.27 | amaroK | Oleg_: One thing i compiled the compiler ... Now i onl must know how gentoo is setup as far as x auth goes by default... But that is what i understand. |
| 03:12.53 | Oleg_ | amaroK: One thing i compiled the compiler ... |
| 03:13.03 | amaroK | Oleg_: I take it out of the thing... |
| 03:13.26 | Oleg_ | amaroK: .. |
| 03:13.33 | amaroK | Oleg_: A small war starting up. |
| 03:13.46 | Oleg_ | amaroK: war |
| 03:13.54 | amaroK | Oleg_: A small war starting up. |
| 03:14.04 | Oleg_ | amaroK: a small |
| 03:14.15 | amaroK | Oleg_: Just a problem :) configuration window => left panel really small. |
| 03:14.24 | Oleg_ | amaroK: A small |
| 03:14.36 | amaroK | Oleg_: Just a problem :) configuration window => left panel really small. |
| 03:14.48 | Oleg_ | amaroK: yo yo |
| 03:14.56 | amaroK | Oleg_: Yo, nigga, give me a quarter. |
| 03:15.04 | Oleg_ | muhahaha |
| 03:15.23 | Oleg_ | aseigo_work: it wasn't me! It was him |
| 03:15.34 | Oleg_ | aseigo_work: I didn't know he would say that! |
| 03:15.48 | Dhraakellian | yes, but where did the bot learn it? |
| 03:16.40 | Oleg_ | Dhraakellian: I am ashamed to tell you that |
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| 03:20.02 | Oleg_ | amaroK: what do you know about John Ashcroft? |
| 03:20.09 | amaroK | Oleg_: You know how to do. |
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| 03:21.29 | Oleg_ | amaroK: Ashcroft |
| 03:21.39 | amaroK | Oleg_: |Fundb add lart makes $who listen to john ashcroft singing. |
| 03:22.12 | Oleg_ | amaroK: Oleg_ |
| 03:22.21 | amaroK | Oleg_: Are you hitting on oleg_ again? |
| 03:22.27 | Oleg_ | muhahaha |
| 03:22.47 | Oleg_ | amaroK: Oleg |
| 03:23.00 | amaroK | Oleg_: Oleg_: amarok is a warning: "this plugin has known problems on some hardware due to alsa bugs. |
| 03:23.27 | Oleg_ | amaroK: hehe |
| 03:23.36 | amaroK | Oleg_: How do i do it yet hehe. |
| 03:24.00 | Oleg_ | amaroK: hello |
| 03:24.02 | grepper | Oleg_: stop filling our logs up with crap please |
| 03:24.08 | amaroK | Oleg_: Year i made it ... Hello world in brainfuck. |
| 03:24.15 | Oleg_ | grepper: ok |
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| 03:25.35 | Oleg_ | amaroK: welcome back! |
| 03:26.07 | amaroK | Oleg_: And than, every time, i click on icons etc. I get /usr/kde3.3.1 install how can i turn back all the views (directory, contents, projects views) are show in differents tabs, how can i turn back all the views (directory, contents, projects views) are show in differents tabs, how can i turn back all the versions i've used. |
| 03:26.23 | Oleg_ | grepper: sorry |
| 03:27.15 | canllaith | grepper: AMEN! |
| 03:27.46 | Oleg_ | canllaith: I fixed that error! |
| 03:27.58 | grepper | yeah, people will end up putting him on /ignore , then they won't see when he asks a real question |
| 03:28.13 | Renze | grepper: some of us already have |
| 03:28.20 | grepper | heh |
| 03:28.35 | Oleg_ | canllaith: I ran make inside the kdebase/kdm/kfrontend/themer |
| 03:28.45 | Oleg_ | canllaith: that fixed the problem |
| 03:28.49 | Dhraakellian | why would the bot be asking a real question? |
| 03:28.57 | canllaith | Well ksirc has this annoying habit of popping up notifications when people say my name.... |
| 03:29.00 | grepper | Dhraakellian: good point |
| 03:29.14 | canllaith | Which is wonderful in the case of a very small handful of people i'd hate to miss, but most of the time is a pain in the ass. |
| 03:29.23 | Renze | canllaith: my konversation does that too :) |
| 03:29.24 | Dhraakellian | there's always calc |
| 03:29.33 | Dhraakellian | calc calc |
| 03:29.36 | amaroK | Sorry Dhraakellian, I don't know what 'calc' is :-( |
| 03:29.37 | Oleg_ | canllaith: did you have to run make in the themer directory or create_makefiles was enough? |
| 03:30.19 | canllaith | Renze: It does? |
| 03:30.27 | Renze | canllaith: yup |
| 03:30.34 | canllaith | Fair enough |
| 03:31.07 | Renze | canllaith: just set notifications to open a passive window on certain events |
| 03:31.10 | grepper | I like the xchat systray plugin, flashes |
| 03:31.12 | canllaith | ahhh fair enough |
| 03:31.16 | canllaith | meh |
| 03:31.27 | Oleg_ | canllaith: thiago is the man. He helped me fix my problem |
| 03:31.42 | canllaith | Oleg_: I told you how to fix it yesterday. It is not my fault if you are too stupid to listen. |
| 03:32.12 | Oleg_ | canllaith: you didn't say to run make inside the themer directory |
| 03:32.58 | canllaith | I assumed knowing how to use a compiler was more or less prerequisite for the conversation we were having |
| 03:33.25 | Oleg_ | canllaith: ok, I am sorry. I didn't wanna to irritate you |
| 03:34.18 | Oleg_ | canllaith: you assumed that I wasn't that stupid, but now you know I am that stupid :) |
| 03:34.23 | canllaith | heh |
| 03:35.46 | Renze | ugh... almost christmas... |
| 03:38.30 | canllaith | I have to spend time with family :( |
| 03:47.25 | canllaith | I have the father in law from hell. |
| 03:48.10 | canllaith | Mine come from all over the globe |
| 03:48.17 | aseigo | and sorry to hear about the f-i-l from h |
| 03:48.19 | canllaith | Korea, Japan, Germany.... |
| 03:48.37 | canllaith | So it would be mean of me not to travel 2 hours to f-i-l from h's house to see them. |
| 03:48.42 | canllaith | Well he has his good points. |
| 03:48.44 | aseigo | ah yes, the international cabal that is your family =) |
| 03:48.53 | canllaith | If you ever want to be really bored one day, ask me about him. |
| 03:48.58 | canllaith | (really bored.) |
| 03:49.01 | aseigo | like, really really bored? |
| 03:49.03 | aseigo | hahaha |
| 03:49.11 | aseigo | damn. you answer my questions too fast sometimes ;-) |
| 03:49.19 | canllaith | What can I say..... |
| 03:49.24 | canllaith | Get the hell off my wavelength ;) |
| 03:50.06 | canllaith | Renze: Yknow, I tried like, whole diffferent hemisphere |
| 03:50.09 | canllaith | It doesn't work. |
| 03:50.32 | Renze | canllaith: my parents don't like travelling :) |
| 03:50.56 | Renze | canllaith: they'll probably just mail me presents or something :) |
| 03:51.09 | canllaith | oooh |
| 03:51.14 | canllaith | Get your mom to email you some apple pie? :D |
| 03:52.05 | canllaith | erm mail * :| |
| 03:52.26 | Renze | canllaith: I'm not sure how well it would survive the postal process :) |
| 03:52.33 | canllaith | Ah well |
| 03:52.38 | canllaith | I will just have to go down there and get it myself |
| 03:53.13 | canllaith | um |
| 03:53.14 | canllaith | up there |
| 03:53.17 | canllaith | I'm frazzled atm. |
| 03:53.21 | Renze | yes, up :) |
| 03:54.19 | Oleg_ | you and Renze live in different countries? |
| 03:54.27 | canllaith | Nope |
| 03:54.33 | canllaith | not anymore anyway |
| 03:55.50 | annma | aseigo: Dubonet is like cheap Martini |
| 03:56.00 | annma | Dubonnet even |
| 03:56.45 | canllaith | So you found your pen then Renze ?:P |
| 03:56.50 | Renze | nope, it didn't... here comes the rain |
| 03:56.57 | Renze | canllaith: I had another in a drawer :) |
| 03:57.31 | canllaith | ;) |
| 03:58.10 | aseigo | annma: ah. i see.. i got this little sampler bottle of it with my wine last night |
| 03:58.36 | aseigo | annma: is it worth foisting upon my tastebuds? or is it really that cheap? |
| 03:58.41 | annma | aseigo: a bit cheap |
| 03:58.47 | Renze | aseigo: don't quibble... it's alcohol, just drink it :) |
| 04:01.08 | Renze | hahahahaha |
| 04:01.09 | Oleg_ | alcohol is good |
| 04:01.33 | Oleg_ | but I won't drink it for some time |
| 04:01.40 | Renze | careful, aseigo... you're not much bigger than a cat :) |
| 04:02.40 | annma | in fact I dont know what Dubonnet exactly is |
| 04:03.06 | annma | Martini Gin is my favourite |
| 04:03.09 | Oleg_ | CVS>=20041104 |
| 04:04.07 | Renze | of course... you never drink alone :) |
| 04:04.16 | Renze | no fun in that :) |
| 04:04.27 | Oleg_ | I drank alone a lot of times |
| 04:04.29 | Oleg_ | it was fun |
| 04:05.14 | annma | canllaith: in France we have nice long 'aperitifs' with lots fo friends (and lots of drinks) |
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| 04:05.34 | annma | then we have lunch that can last for 3 hours |
| 04:05.40 | canllaith | annma: When can I move there? |
| 04:05.41 | canllaith | :) |
| 04:05.43 | amaroK | :-) |
| 04:05.48 | annma | isn't that real life? |
| 04:05.49 | Oleg_ | I am happy I have my New York State ID |
| 04:05.57 | Oleg_ | because it verifies my age |
| 04:06.11 | annma | however I don't lie hee anymore |
| 04:06.17 | annma | live here |
| 04:06.32 | Oleg_ | because in some places they request to see an identification |
| 04:07.10 | annma | I buy beer for my daughter when she invites friends |
| 04:07.19 | Oleg_ | but in many places, they can sell you alcohol without verifying anyone's age |
| 04:07.29 | canllaith | heh |
| 04:07.37 | canllaith | I can't buy alcohol easily here |
| 04:07.45 | canllaith | I dont have identification and they always ask |
| 04:07.45 | *** part/#kde topeira (~lucio@topeira.user) |
| 04:08.02 | canllaith | I don't like having to carry my passport around, I would be a bit screwed if I lost it |
| 04:08.27 | aseigo | Renze: that's why we (cats and i) get along so well... |
| 04:08.31 | Oleg_ | canllaith: is it easy to get weed in your neighborhood? |
| 04:08.42 | canllaith | I don't know. Weed is for losers. |
| 04:08.44 | annma | so, aseigo, did you have a go at the Dubonnet? |
| 04:08.48 | Renze | aseigo: but they might see you as competition... or something :) |
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| 04:08.55 | aseigo | canllaith: is alcohol a state run retail industry in NZ? |
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| 04:09.05 | aseigo | Renze: i am the cat king. |
| 04:09.08 | canllaith | aseigo: Define state run ? |
| 04:09.11 | aseigo | </doors> |
| 04:09.17 | aseigo | canllaith: government. |
| 04:09.22 | Renze | aseigo: it's legal to own a still, as long as you don't sell the product |
| 04:09.31 | einstein | quick question for everyone. |
| 04:09.32 | canllaith | It is government regulated ....... |
| 04:09.32 | annma | aseigo: that's an american invention |
| 04:09.35 | Oleg_ | canllaith: I bought weed two times, but I got beat up the second time |
| 04:09.41 | canllaith | This isn't my country though so don't ask me ;) |
| 04:09.43 | annma | not in France, not in France |
| 04:09.45 | canllaith | einstein: aye? |
| 04:09.46 | einstein | what would stop konqueror from generating image previews? |
| 04:09.49 | Oleg_ | canllaith: so I don't buy it anymore |
| 04:10.02 | aseigo | annma: hrm? in the states you can get liquor anywhere |
| 04:10.08 | einstein | the only change I made was increase the size of files it should look at from 1 MB to 3 MB |
| 04:10.24 | annma | einstein: kde version? |
| 04:10.26 | aseigo | annma: in canada it's governmental.. though most provinces have allowed for private beer and wine stores. |
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| 04:10.28 | canllaith | einstein: Did you check that the previews were enabled for all local protocols? |
| 04:10.36 | annma | the SAQ |
| 04:10.36 | einstein | this happened on two machines both with KDE 3.3.1, compile with gentoo. |
| 04:10.38 | Renze | aseigo: the government makes lots of money on taxes from sales of alcohol, but it's not regulated beyond that |
| 04:11.11 | annma | einstein: hmm, did you look at the bug database? |
| 04:11.11 | aseigo | Renze: which government? |
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| 04:11.23 | Renze | aseigo: NZ, I'm in the same country as canllaith :) |
| 04:11.35 | einstein | canllaith: local protocols. you nailed it. |
| 04:12.00 | einstein | I knew it was something stupid. thanks! wonder how they got unchecked... :) |
| 04:12.03 | canllaith | :) |
| 04:12.05 | amaroK | :D |
| 04:12.20 | Oleg_ | I smoked a few times, but only because I wanted to see what it could give me |
| 04:12.42 | annma | einstein: however with your nickname, this should not happen |
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| 04:14.14 | einstein | annma: I really should use a different nick when I come into to IRC to ask questions :) |
| 04:14.25 | annma | ;) |
| 04:14.27 | annma | indeed |
| 04:15.00 | einstein | the nick comes more from me having similar hairstyles to Albert Einstein than actually matching his intellect. |
| 04:15.00 | grepper | einstein: its ok, your namesake was probably not good with computers :P |
| 04:15.15 | einstein | grepper: exactly, he had bigger things on his mind :) |
| 04:15.29 | einstein | he often forgot to wear socks. |
| 04:15.29 | grepper | he used a paper and pencil |
| 04:15.40 | Renze | hmmm... the forecast says even more rain tomorrow, so I might have to risk a run to the supermarket... |
| 04:16.28 | aseigo | Renze: walking? |
| 04:16.33 | Renze | yup |
| 04:16.42 | aseigo | Renze: how far? |
| 04:16.54 | Renze | about 12 minutes each way |
| 04:17.38 | Renze | canllaith: I have more :) |
| 04:18.02 | Renze | oh, and I found the one I dropped. :) |
| 04:18.22 | Renze | rolled under the 'puter |
| 04:18.47 | Renze | Douglas Adams will be missed |
| 04:19.01 | Oleg_ | canllaith: you are a UNIX administrator? |
| 04:19.09 | canllaith | Yes. |
| 04:19.23 | canllaith | Why ? |
| 04:19.36 | Oleg_ | canllaith: just to refresh my memory |
| 04:19.53 | canllaith | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:20.13 | Renze | "is you is, or is you ain't, my baby..." |
| 04:20.24 | canllaith | ;) |
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| 04:20.30 | canllaith | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:20.46 | shwag | so i just switched from gnome to kde to give it a try. Why are all the fonts so big everywhere ? |
| 04:20.50 | Oleg_ | sounds like words from a song |
| 04:21.04 | canllaith | shwag: Kcontrol->Appearance & Themes->Fonts |
| 04:21.07 | canllaith | I would put to you |
| 04:21.11 | canllaith | They are so big because they have been set so :) |
| 04:21.14 | grepper | because KDE is huge |
| 04:21.19 | annma | lol |
| 04:21.40 | aseigo | HUGE! |
| 04:21.40 | Renze | coming from Gnome, he probably thinks he can't change anything :) |
| 04:21.44 | annma | canllaith && grepper have the right answers |
| 04:21.51 | annma | Regina: lol |
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| 04:22.03 | Oleg_ | Regina? |
| 04:22.03 | grepper | hehe |
| 04:22.11 | shwag | canllaith, i changed that...but none of the fonts changed...like in xchat, firefox... |
| 04:22.20 | annma | Renze I ean |
| 04:22.24 | Renze | xchat and firefox aren't KDE apps |
| 04:22.27 | annma | wrong completion |
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| 04:22.32 | canllaith | shwag: That is because Xchat and Firefox fonts are nothing to do with KDE. There is an FAQ on it give me a moment |
| 04:22.50 | annma | firefox rulez! it's firefox 1.0 today!!!!!!!!!! |
| 04:23.02 | canllaith | shwag: http://docs.kde.org/en/HEAD/kdebase/faq/non-kde-apps.html#id2878813 |
| 04:23.05 | shwag | annma, hey...watch it. firefox isnt a kde app. |
| 04:23.12 | grepper | shwag: get gtk-theme-switch and choose a different font size |
| 04:23.20 | annma | shwag: I know but it's for windows users |
| 04:23.26 | aseigo | canllaith: you should teach that to apt and then we can just say apt: fonts in non-kde apps |
| 04:23.38 | canllaith | aseigo: I think Phil already did to be honest, that's why he asked me to write it |
| 04:23.44 | canllaith | but apt and I are not on speaking terms |
| 04:23.49 | canllaith | He really hurt my feelings. |
| 04:23.53 | aseigo | shwag: there's code in Firefox's CVS tree to fix that, btw |
| 04:24.05 | aseigo | bad apt, bad! |
| 04:24.12 | grepper | apt: comfort canllaith |
| 04:24.14 | apt | There, there, canllaith. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 04:24.18 | annma | canllaith: you have to tame apt |
| 04:24.34 | annma | apt: love canllaith |
| 04:24.36 | apt | If you love canllaith so much, why don't you marry it? (oooooh) |
| 04:24.42 | grepper | heh |
| 04:24.42 | annma | it! |
| 04:24.51 | annma | stupid bot has no brain |
| 04:24.58 | annma | and no libido |
| 04:25.00 | aseigo | annma: just memory |
| 04:25.13 | canllaith | Well, it does seem to be a creation of Phils..... |
| 04:25.19 | annma | lol |
| 04:25.21 | annma | tsss |
| 04:25.44 | Oleg_ | amaroK is really an incredible bot |
| 04:25.49 | grepper | somethings going on between canllaith and annma ? |
| 04:25.52 | canllaith | lol |
| 04:25.52 | Oleg_ | he's intelligent and funny |
| 04:25.58 | canllaith | KDE mum ;) |
| 04:26.00 | annma | grepper: ! lol |
| 04:26.02 | amaroK | Oleg_: Why would the bot be asking a real server, it is not really for that purpose, however it is possible to have to risk a run to the bot. |
| 04:26.16 | canllaith | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:26.24 | canllaith | Yknow we should teach amaroK to sing Sinatra |
| 04:26.27 | canllaith | That would be useful. |
| 04:26.33 | annma | !!!!!! |
| 04:26.33 | amaroK | We have to point it at amarok. |
| 04:26.44 | grepper | annma and canllaith , sittin on tree, k-i-s-s-i-n-g (sing along) |
| 04:26.48 | Oleg_ | amaroK: "Somewhere in your heart, try to find a place for me" |
| 04:26.53 | *** part/#kde einstein (~einstein@oberon.twoguyshosting.net) |
| 04:26.57 | annma | grepper: !!!!!! |
| 04:27.01 | amaroK | Oleg_: Try the source for stml mail, i think you have in focus. |
| 04:27.03 | shwag | i went into the Configure for Konsole, but when I select, Black on Light Yellow,...and apply...nothing changes though. |
| 04:27.12 | grepper | #kde is liberated |
| 04:27.23 | Oleg_ | wow! |
| 04:27.24 | canllaith | grepper !! |
| 04:27.32 | canllaith | You're terrible :| |
| 04:27.40 | annma | shwag: save as default in Settings |
| 04:27.47 | grepper | canllaith: there is nothing wrong with it :) |
| 04:27.55 | Venson | #kde is Kliberated |
| 04:27.58 | annma | grepper: I would better kiss you |
| 04:28.03 | Oleg_ | annma: I love Malmsteen's version of Beethoven's fifth symphony! |
| 04:28.05 | grepper | mmm |
| 04:28.10 | annma | ahh, see |
| 04:28.17 | annma | you're scared now |
| 04:28.24 | shwag | annma, worked |
| 04:28.29 | annma | shwag: :) |
| 04:28.33 | annma | cool |
| 04:28.44 | aseigo | shwag: that applies for new sessions only... current sessions remain as they are until you change them. this is because people seem to like having N different looks for their sessions to tell them apart |
| 04:29.00 | grepper | a Quebecois babe offering to kiss me ? Why would I be scared ? :) |
| 04:29.16 | annma | French please |
| 04:29.18 | Oleg_ | annma: are you young and good looking? |
| 04:29.26 | annma | Oleg_: not exactly |
| 04:29.29 | aseigo | Oleg_: she's at least one of the two. |
| 04:29.34 | annma | lol |
| 04:29.49 | annma | I hope I am god looking |
| 04:29.52 | annma | good |
| 04:29.55 | annma | ;) |
| 04:30.01 | grepper | jam trois |
| 04:30.03 | shwag | am i suppose to use something else besides gaim in kde ? |
| 04:30.09 | annma | Kopete |
| 04:30.09 | aseigo | kopete? |
| 04:30.10 | canllaith | shwag: What do you want to use? |
| 04:30.19 | canllaith | I will not say you are 'supposed' to use anything :) |
| 04:30.24 | shwag | canllaith, whatever integrates with my desktop well |
| 04:30.29 | annma | Kopete |
| 04:30.32 | canllaith | shwag: Then perhaps you might like to try kopete. |
| 04:30.39 | aseigo | "In the fascist state of KDE, thou shalt use the following apps:" |
| 04:30.44 | Oleg_ | lol |
| 04:30.57 | annma | shwag: seriously Kopete rocks |
| 04:31.02 | aseigo | "thou shalt not count to two, unless it is to proceed directly to three." |
| 04:31.24 | Renze | bring forth the holy handgrenade of Antioch! |
| 04:31.36 | Oleg_ | "thou art good" |
| 04:32.11 | aseigo | Renze: points for getting the reference and knowing further lines. |
| 04:32.22 | canllaith | Five is right out! |
| 04:32.29 | Renze | aseigo: I like Monty Python :) |
| 04:33.13 | Oleg_ | let's teach the bot some Elvis Presley's songs |
| 04:33.23 | aseigo | no, let's not. |
| 04:33.31 | Oleg_ | aseigo: ok |
| 04:33.49 | Oleg_ | amaroK: fuck you, dipshit |
| 04:34.00 | grepper | the bot should be stripped and shredded |
| 04:34.01 | amaroK | Oleg_: You have a go at the same server, you can't do that, can you? |
| 04:34.37 | annma | this bot has no use in the channel |
| 04:35.00 | aseigo | annma: i agree completely |
| 04:35.03 | canllaith | Especially now that Oleg_ has taught it vugarity. |
| 04:35.25 | annma | it's the most stupid bot I ever saw |
| 04:36.29 | annma | hmm, gotta go |
| 04:36.37 | annma | bye all |
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| 04:38.39 | aseigo | guess his power went out |
| 04:38.44 | aseigo | badoom CHING |
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| 04:41.44 | attifinch | what do you gusy supposed the easiest way to upgrade to 3.3.1 would be on mandrake 9.1? |
| 04:41.49 | attifinch | guys |
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| 04:43.34 | _poison | hi =) |
| 04:44.31 | grepper | debootstrap sarge :P |
| 04:45.05 | Oleg_ | attifinch: use rpm -Uvh |
| 04:45.10 | _poison | I always get this error when trying to modify addresses in KABC -> The resource '/home/poison/.kde/share/apps/kabc/std.vcf' is locked by application ''. |
| 04:45.24 | _poison | KDE 3.3.1.. anybody know how to fix ? |
| 04:45.36 | Renze | _poison: check ~/.kde/share/apps/kabc/lock/ for stale lock files |
| 04:45.47 | attifinch | oleg what do you mean rpm -uvh? |
| 04:45.48 | _poison | Renze: thx =D |
| 04:46.31 | grepper | attifinch: not much |
| 04:46.37 | Oleg_ | attifinch: for example, to upgrade the kdelibs package, you type rpm -Uvh kdelibs-3.3.1.rpm and press enter |
| 04:46.58 | attifinch | is there a list of everything id need to update to get to kde 3.3.1 |
| 04:46.58 | attifinch | ? |
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| 04:47.13 | Oleg_ | attifinch: www.kde.org |
| 04:47.18 | grepper | attifinch: can you not use urpmi ? |
| 04:47.27 | attifinch | i can |
| 04:47.28 | Oleg_ | attifinch: that's where you'll find the list of everything |
| 04:47.30 | attifinch | but when i type in kde |
| 04:47.34 | attifinch | i get like a full page fo crap |
| 04:47.38 | attifinch | and have no idea what to get |
| 04:47.57 | slashN | hey. What could be wrong if I am not able to see all the fonts in the konsole? |
| 04:47.58 | grepper | try kdebase |
| 04:48.03 | attifinch | urpmq kde .. gives you alot of stuff |
| 04:48.07 | Oleg_ | grepper: urpmi? I always used rpm -Uvh |
| 04:48.38 | grepper | Oleg_: urpmi is somewhat like apt , does dependancy checking and also downloads for you |
| 04:48.44 | grepper | if you have it set up |
| 04:49.01 | Oleg_ | grepper: I see |
| 04:49.23 | attifinch | so basically urpmi kdebase should do it all for me? |
| 04:49.37 | attifinch | or is it more of a try and see what happens |
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| 04:53.12 | grepper | attifinch: is there a package called "kdebase" ? |
| 04:53.40 | attifinch | 1 sec let me look |
| 04:53.56 | attifinch | gotta finish installing urpmi |
| 04:53.58 | grepper | that would give you the basics |
| 04:53.59 | attifinch | im on the last part |
| 04:57.26 | attifinch | [root@localhost mike]# urpmi kdebase To satisfy dependencies, the following packages are going to be installed (62 MB): fontconfig-2.1-9mdk.i586 galaxy-kde-kwin-0.2-22.1mdk.i586 kdebase-3.1-83.5mdk.i586 kdebase-nsplugins-3.1-83.5mdk.i586 kdelibs-3.1-58.3.91mdk.i586 kdelibs-common-3.1-58.3.91mdk.i586 libfontconfig1-2.1-9mdk.i586 Is this OK? (Y/n) |
| 04:58.08 | Renze | only 3.1? |
| 04:58.44 | attifinch | thats what "urpmi kdebase" gives me |
| 04:59.11 | Renze | just commenting that only 3.1 seems available for your distro |
| 04:59.26 | attifinch | im running mandrake 9.1 |
| 04:59.30 | attifinch | that could be the problem |
| 04:59.32 | Renze | I'm not |
| 05:00.48 | grepper | attifinch: see if there is an unofficial source you could use |
| 05:01.07 | attifinch | how would i find that] |
| 05:04.15 | grepper | google or groups.google.com :) |
| 05:04.38 | Oleg_ | attifinch: download 3.3.1 rpms |
| 05:04.48 | Oleg_ | attifinch: that's an easy solution |
| 05:06.19 | grepper | #mandrake ? alt.os.linux.mandrake ? |
| 05:06.54 | grepper | those are 2 better places to ask - the 1st being an irc channel and the second a newsgroup |
| 05:07.08 | Oleg_ | what's the problem? can't he just install 3.3.1 rpms? |
| 05:07.43 | attifinch | i just installed gaim any idea where it would be? |
| 05:07.51 | Oleg_ | hehe |
| 05:07.56 | Oleg_ | locate gaim |
| 05:07.57 | canllaith | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:08.06 | canllaith | `which gaim` will tell you |
| 05:08.12 | Oleg_ | yeah |
| 05:08.35 | attifinch | wouldnt happen to know a site with icons would you? |
| 05:08.42 | Renze | kde-look.org |
| 05:09.05 | attifinch | like a gaim icon |
| 05:09.08 | Oleg_ | hehe |
| 05:09.25 | Renze | images.google.com? |
| 05:09.30 | canllaith | lots of icons at kde-look.org :) |
| 05:09.37 | canllaith | Or gaim drops them in /usr/share/pixmaps/gaim |
| 05:09.46 | canllaith | (or /usr/local depending on prefix) |
| 05:10.46 | Oleg_ | I love rock ballads |
| 05:10.57 | Oleg_ | they are so beautiful |
| 05:12.42 | Oleg_ | "Remember yesterday and think about tomorrow" |
| 05:12.53 | Oleg_ | "but you have to live today" |
| 05:13.06 | Oleg_ | "oh-oh, don't you step aside" |
| 05:13.13 | Oleg_ | "never live a lie" |
| 05:13.49 | Oleg_ | "oh, lonely yesterday, don't leave me with a sorrow" |
| 05:14.39 | Oleg_ | "When I saw your face" |
| 05:14.51 | Oleg_ | "I became a prisoner of your eyes" |
| 05:15.09 | Oleg_ | "and I would do just anything to stay and be with you" |
| 05:16.14 | Oleg_ | oh, the beautiful 80s |
| 05:16.25 | Oleg_ | the days when metal ruled |
| 05:17.55 | Oleg_ | Bon Jovi |
| 05:18.01 | Oleg_ | Motley Crue |
| 05:18.12 | Oleg_ | all those sweet bands |
| 05:18.19 | grepper | I liked the early part of the century better |
| 05:18.29 | grepper | 1700-1750 |
| 05:19.19 | Oleg_ | grepper: that was a good time also. American states were the colonies of England |
| 05:19.43 | Oleg_ | grepper: the Industrial Revolution |
| 05:19.49 | Oleg_ | grepper: Mozart |
| 05:20.00 | Oleg_ | oh, Mozart and his beautiful music |
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| 05:20.23 | zenethian | Anyone here use Psi? |
| 05:21.09 | grepper | Bach, not mozart |
| 05:21.19 | Oleg_ | actually, Mozart was born after 1750 |
| 05:21.22 | grepper | Mozart wasn't born until 1756 |
| 05:21.29 | Oleg_ | yeah |
| 05:21.45 | Oleg_ | grepper: I just found it out on-line :) |
| 05:22.08 | Oleg_ | I wanted to show that I know some things and I failed |
| 05:22.32 | grepper | you were close |
| 05:22.48 | Oleg_ | and the Industrial Revolution happened before or after 1750? |
| 05:22.50 | grepper | execept one is the Baroque period and one is the Classical period ;P |
| 05:23.17 | AC-130U | beethoven when? |
| 05:23.38 | grepper | 1770 - 1827 |
| 05:23.44 | AC-130U | ah |
| 05:24.18 | AC-130U | beethoven went deaf, did he not? |
| 05:24.28 | Oleg_ | I'm trying to recall what happened between 1700 and 1750 :) |
| 05:24.55 | grepper | yeah |
| 05:25.02 | AC-130U | *nod* |
| 05:25.11 | AC-130U | i've a lot of respect for him |
| 05:25.23 | AC-130U | continued to conduct even though he was deaf |
| 05:25.40 | Oleg_ | Louis XV was the king of France in 1700? |
| 05:26.26 | Oleg_ | and I think, England was a republic at that time |
| 05:26.51 | grepper | HANDEL and VIVALDI were also comtempories of BACH |
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| 05:27.34 | Oleg_ | what about Beethoven? was he born after 1750? |
| 05:28.05 | canllaith | I'd love to play a real harpsichord |
| 05:29.23 | grepper | 1770 was after 1750, yes |
| 05:30.43 | Oleg_ | English Renaissance? Did it happen in 1700s? |
| 05:31.13 | Oleg_ | I think non-English Renaissance happened in 1600s |
| 05:31.20 | Oleg_ | or maybe earlier |
| 05:31.35 | grepper | before Bach |
| 05:31.50 | grepper | 1563 - 1626 are the dates of John Dowland |
| 05:32.04 | Oleg_ | who's John Dowland? |
| 05:32.31 | Oleg_ | and I am not sure I've ever heard of Handel |
| 05:32.39 | grepper | WILLIAM BYRD: 1543 - 1623 |
| 05:33.04 | Oleg_ | Byrd sounds familiar to me, but I can't recall who he was |
| 05:33.19 | grepper | also English Renaissance |
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| 05:34.01 | Oleg_ | William Shakespeare! |
| 05:34.34 | Oleg_ | and what's his name, starts with M? |
| 05:34.37 | Oleg_ | Mauto |
| 05:34.44 | Oleg_ | or something like that |
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| 05:37.08 | Oleg_ | but the 1980s were the best |
| 05:37.25 | Oleg_ | we had many popular metal bands |
| 05:37.47 | Oleg_ | and the best soap opera of all time was created in the 1980s |
| 05:37.59 | grepper | yeah, Shakespere would be contempory with these English Renaissance composers |
| 05:38.17 | grepper | bbl - coffee |
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| 05:42.55 | Oleg_ | In fact, I am downloading an episode from that soap now |
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| 06:12.45 | Oleg_ | amaroK: so... |
| 06:12.55 | amaroK | Oleg_: So where is kurl? In which module? |
| 06:13.15 | Oleg_ | amaroK: I dunno |
| 06:13.22 | amaroK | Oleg_: I dunno, she's my sister. |
| 06:13.40 | Oleg_ | amaroK: hmm |
| 06:13.51 | amaroK | Oleg_: Hmm.. Is there an image editor like mspaint for kde? |
| 06:14.17 | Oleg_ | amaroK: ugh |
| 06:14.24 | amaroK | Oleg_: Ugh... Almost christmas... |
| 06:15.15 | Oleg_ | amaroK: da |
| 06:15.25 | amaroK | Oleg_: Http://bugs.kde.org against kdelibs and kdebase work with bash both ways. |
| 06:16.01 | Oleg_ | amaroK: smoke |
| 06:16.10 | amaroK | Oleg_: [21:59:27] <Dhraakellian> amarok: i'm testing something. |
| 06:16.37 | Oleg_ | amaroK: oui |
| 06:16.49 | amaroK | Oleg_: Hrm? In the states you can define, how much max entries do you do that! |
| 06:17.15 | Oleg_ | amaroK: oh |
| 06:17.21 | amaroK | Oleg_: Oh, brilliant, a boolean bitfield. |
| 06:17.44 | Oleg_ | amaroK: XV |
| 06:17.55 | amaroK | Oleg_: Louis xv was the goal of the sql query problems fixed with mysql. |
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| 06:18.39 | Oleg_ | amaroK: , |
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| 06:19.01 | amaroK | Oleg_: The first being, multipart/alternative 7 bit folder of 6.8k of html junk, there is probably making it more easily available despite which desktop you have a bunch of mp3's that i know i am looking into. |
| 06:19.37 | Oleg_ | amaroK: shut up |
| 06:19.48 | amaroK | Oleg_: It seems to want to ask to meet up again. |
| 06:20.00 | Oleg_ | amaroK: soap |
| 06:20.10 | amaroK | Oleg_: And the best soap opera of all the fonts so big everywhere ? |
| 06:20.38 | Oleg_ | amaroK: opera |
| 06:20.51 | amaroK | Oleg_: Of course that would be the best soap opera of all the versions i've used. |
| 06:21.18 | Oleg_ | amaroK: the 1980s |
| 06:21.42 | amaroK | Oleg_: I can do everything else i need a brainfuck compiler, but it?s hard to find the tar file like house of nate has, so i do it? Since i have to risk a run to the next server in the 1980s. |
| 06:22.40 | Oleg_ | amaroK: annma |
| 06:22.47 | amaroK | Oleg_: Find annma in the taskbar. |
| 06:23.11 | Oleg_ | amaroK: - |
| 06:23.22 | amaroK | Oleg_: I take it out of curiosity: which progressbar style do you mean? |
| 06:23.34 | Oleg_ | amaroK: / |
| 06:23.51 | amaroK | Oleg_: It's the most stupid bot i ever needed her or wanted to see an animation of konqy burninating the ms office paperclip to death. |
| 06:24.13 | marcusU | ignore Oleg_,amaroK |
| 06:24.21 | marcusU | shit |
| 06:24.24 | amaroK | Oleg_: amarok is a virtual machine like vmware from what is amarok, megahal, ? |
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| 06:26.49 | Dhraakellian | [01:30:04] --- Dhraakellian has changed the topic to: a channel where you can talk to the frickin' bot without cluttering up the logs of people in #kde and other places |
| 06:27.08 | canllaith | Just ignore them : |
| 06:27.08 | canllaith | :) |
| 06:27.11 | amaroK | ;) |
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| 06:27.30 | Dhraakellian | canllaith: in moderation, the bot is nifty |
| 06:27.44 | canllaith | It's vocabulary has been warped |
| 06:28.04 | Dhraakellian | right |
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| 06:29.37 | Oleg_ | I was called a warped person a few times |
| 06:31.33 | Oleg_ | the gals on that soap board that I was visiting really didn't like me |
| 06:31.48 | canllaith | :) |
| 06:31.51 | canllaith | Welcome back |
| 06:31.52 | Venson | and i thought _i_ was the one spending too much time on the computer and online. |
| 06:31.59 | canllaith | oh? |
| 06:32.07 | Renze | one of these days that hill climb isn't going to half kill me :) |
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| 06:32.34 | Oleg_ | I learned about the word warped from those girls |
| 06:32.34 | canllaith | It's good for you ;) I should walk around the hills here more often |
| 06:33.01 | Renze | canllaith: yes, it is good exercise... but I have many years of neglect to counteract :) |
| 06:34.01 | Oleg_ | Dhraakellian: those gals called me a warped person. |
| 06:34.34 | Dhraakellian | fine: ruin my joke, will you? |
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| 06:35.20 | Oleg_ | forgive me |
| 06:35.47 | canllaith | Fair enough :) |
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| 06:36.55 | Oleg_ | it was kinda depressing; I offered to have a date with one of them, but one of them said: "If you don't wanna get beaten, you have to respect some things". |
| 06:37.27 | Oleg_ | damn, I am 22 and still have never been with a girl |
| 06:38.07 | Oleg_ | but I don't understand them |
| 06:38.18 | Oleg_ | I mean the gals on that board |
| 06:40.10 | Oleg_ | For example, they kept discussing only one soap couple, but that soap had another great soap couple. |
| 06:41.01 | Oleg_ | They said that no one was better than that man from the first couple |
| 06:41.19 | Oleg_ | and they never even mentioned the man from the second couple |
| 06:41.35 | Oleg_ | both of those men were great |
| 06:41.39 | Oleg_ | were nice |
| 06:41.46 | Oleg_ | and moral |
| 06:42.36 | Oleg_ | but for some reason which is beyond my understanding they kept saying how great that man from the first couple was |
| 06:42.49 | Oleg_ | and never mentioned that second man! |
| 06:43.07 | Renze | Oleg_: take some free advice... get a life, learn to respect women, and learn how to communicate with people in a way that doesn't piss them off. And now back to /ignore. |
| 06:43.14 | Oleg_ | that second man wasn't inferior in any way to the first man |
| 06:44.10 | Oleg_ | Renze: wow! when did you unignore me? |
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| 06:51.30 | straw | heh. hi folks :) |
| 06:51.47 | marcusU | Uh |
| 06:51.57 | canllaith | Hi straw :) |
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| 07:07.58 | Renze | bonjour |
| 07:11.56 | marcusU | Hmmm. Compiling kdelibs took 61m44 real time. |
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| 07:40.08 | tnf | good morning :) |
| 07:41.00 | Renze | good evening :) |
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| 07:54.50 | canllaith | Gday PhilRod :) |
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| 07:57.01 | turki5h | how do i start the lisa daemon? |
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| 07:58.16 | Flendor | Good morning! |
| 07:58.18 | Renze | turki5h: open a konsole and type "lisa &" - to start it every time, put this command somewhere in your startup |
| 07:58.21 | tnf | morning Flendor |
| 07:58.26 | Renze | good evening Flendor |
| 07:58.32 | Flendor | Morning tnf, Renze |
| 07:58.40 | Flendor | Günaydın turki5h |
| 07:58.56 | Flendor | Heh, sorry, evening Renze :) |
| 07:59.01 | PhilRod | morning canllaith |
| 07:59.15 | canllaith | :) |
| 07:59.17 | amaroK | :) |
| 07:59.20 | Flendor | :) |
| 07:59.22 | canllaith | Gday Flendor |
| 07:59.27 | PhilRod | apt: autostart |
| 07:59.28 | apt | methinks autostart is http://docs.kde.org/en/HEAD/kdebase/faq/configure.html question 9.10 |
| 07:59.31 | Flendor | Good day canllaith! How are you? |
| 07:59.44 | PhilRod | turki5h: ^^ that link'll tell you where to put stuff to autostart it |
| 07:59.45 | turki5h | Renze, command now found |
| 07:59.53 | turki5h | *not |
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| 08:00.27 | Renze | turki5h: it's gonna be hard to run the lisa daemon if you don't have it |
| 08:00.35 | turki5h | how do i get it? |
| 08:00.58 | Renze | turki5h: it comes with KDE, so you should have it already |
| 08:01.07 | turki5h | right...but i dont... |
| 08:02.00 | canllaith | it is in |
| 08:02.02 | canllaith | kdenetwork |
| 08:03.29 | turki5h | maybe reinstall kdenetwork then? |
| 08:03.39 | Flendor | What does "deprecated" mean? |
| 08:04.06 | turki5h | outdated |
| 08:04.15 | Flendor | Ok, thanks |
| 08:04.49 | canllaith | usually 'in the process of being phased out' in the context of the kernel |
| 08:07.40 | Flendor | Hey canllaith, I fixed my kernel! :D |
| 08:07.53 | canllaith | Yay! I thought you would |
| 08:09.16 | Flendor | I used XConfig..and edited the lilo to say =/dev/hda7 without spaces |
| 08:09.29 | Flendor | But I think it was XConfig that did the trick |
| 08:09.58 | Flendor | Hehe..I got SO fed up in the process I went to / and typed "rm -rf *.*"..I don't know how, but my system didn't die :) |
| 08:11.06 | Renze | *.* only deletes files with a . in the name |
| 08:11.24 | Flendor | Oh :) Well I guess I'm in luck then :) |
| 08:11.24 | Renze | unlearn your microsoft ways :) |
| 08:11.33 | Flendor | Hehe |
| 08:11.39 | canllaith | hehehe |
| 08:11.41 | Flendor | Powerful is the taint of the dark side.. |
| 08:11.59 | canllaith | LOL! |
| 08:12.12 | Flendor | I should have said "rm -rf * " right? |
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| 08:12.36 | canllaith | Yes |
| 08:12.42 | Flendor | Hello Venson! *waves* |
| 08:12.46 | Venson | hello Flendor |
| 08:13.36 | SteamedPenguin | hey Venson |
| 08:14.01 | canllaith | Although really Flendor you don't ever want to do that to your linux system :P |
| 08:14.24 | Flendor | canllaith - I don't think I'll get THAT annoyed again :) |
| 08:14.28 | canllaith | Good :) |
| 08:16.15 | Flendor | ..though even now my sound system doesn't work well. :/ |
| 08:16.15 | Venson | hey SteamedPenguin |
| 08:17.03 | powerpig | I think that's normal for sound systems. ;-) |
| 08:17.17 | canllaith | At least under linux |
| 08:17.21 | canllaith | grrr my spacebar is being strange |
| 08:18.08 | Venson | canllaith: maybe your spacebar spaced out? |
| 08:18.13 | Venson | :$ |
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| 08:19.53 | canllaith | Venson: :P I actually think I should geta new keyboardfor my laptop |
| 08:20.06 | canllaith | it has been behaving a little strangely .... I shouldlook on tradme to see ifI can find anysecond hand |
| 08:20.18 | Venson | canllaith: maybe it's a good idea...laptop keyboards do get tired sooner than regular keyboards |
| 08:20.21 | canllaith | Basically ^^ thatsentence is whatI end up with ifI don't backspace and fix thespacing(Ok, this one too) |
| 08:20.28 | Venson | canllaith: must be the chocolate :P |
| 08:20.34 | canllaith | Prolly ;) |
| 08:20.38 | Venson | lol |
| 08:20.44 | canllaith | I have probably ended up chocolating my spare bar |
| 08:20.48 | Renze | mmmmm... chocolate... |
| 08:20.50 | Venson | haha |
| 08:21.17 | canllaith | space* grrr |
| 08:22.33 | Flendor | :) |
| 08:22.35 | amaroK | :-) |
| 08:23.06 | canllaith | I can get a keyboard really cheaply off ebay or trademe.... |
| 08:23.09 | canllaith | oooh interesting |
| 08:23.21 | Flendor | It's a bar of Toblerone |
| 08:23.21 | canllaith | if I hit it with my left thumb it works fine |
| 08:23.45 | Renze | Flendor: ah, the chocolate that stabs you in the roof of the mouth as you eat it :) |
| 08:23.48 | Flendor | Something like that happened to my old keyboard.. |
| 08:24.05 | Flendor | I opened it to clean the insides of it, but ended up b0rking it |
| 08:24.14 | Flendor | Renze - Hehe..I like their taste :) |
| 08:24.37 | Renze | Flendor: yes, it tastes good, but eat with caution :) |
| 08:25.23 | Flendor | Bon appetite can :) |
| 08:25.39 | Flendor | I think I'll eat some themed ice-cream |
| 08:25.51 | turki5h | i reinstalled kdenetwork & lisa is still not found |
| 08:26.09 | Flendor | Cya |
| 08:27.35 | Renze | turki5h: what distro? |
| 08:28.26 | powerpig | That Lisa... you can never depend on her. |
| 08:28.29 | turki5h | gentoo, nm though, i figured it out |
| 08:28.41 | turki5h | thx |
| 08:28.59 | powerpig | She should try to be more like her friend Pam. ;-) |
| 08:37.01 | Flendor | Renze - How do I remove a loaded module? |
| 08:37.19 | Renze | kernel module? rmmod <modulename> |
| 08:37.20 | canllaith | Flendor: modprobe -r |
| 08:37.21 | Flendor | I want to remove and re-load the nvsound module.. |
| 08:37.30 | Flendor | Thank you. |
| 08:37.45 | Flendor | My problem is with the NForce sound driver.. |
| 08:38.05 | Flendor | It's got a mixer program, NVMixer, which I need to get 4+1 sound... |
| 08:38.15 | Flendor | It runs the mixer as normal user but not as root O~o |
| 08:38.52 | Flendor | Hehe, something funny happened to me yesterday.. |
| 08:39.01 | Flendor | I was in #slackware and also running a console |
| 08:39.08 | Renze | funny ha ha, or funny strange? |
| 08:39.13 | Flendor | I was thinking of switching to root.. |
| 08:39.17 | Flendor | ha ah |
| 08:39.34 | Flendor | So I typed "su", pressed enter, and typed my root pass and pressed enter, in the channel |
| 08:39.39 | Flendor | I was quite embarassed :) |
| 08:39.44 | Renze | whoops! |
| 08:39.48 | straw | heh |
| 08:39.51 | Renze | did you change your root password? |
| 08:39.55 | Flendor | Yes, I did |
| 08:39.59 | Renze | good :) |
| 08:40.07 | Renze | what's your new one? |
| 08:40.09 | Flendor | Though I panicked for a while since I didn't know how, I asked in the channel |
| 08:40.12 | Renze | just kidding! :) |
| 08:40.13 | Flendor | It's 659999 |
| 08:40.25 | Flendor | (hehe this is the old one |
| 08:40.38 | Flendor | The one I typed in the other channel ) |
| 08:41.36 | Flendor | Has anyone here used the NVidia's installers* |
| 08:41.44 | Flendor | I need to learn how to uninstall them |
| 08:42.02 | Flendor | If you didn't, nevermind, I'll read the README when I get home.. |
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| 08:45.16 | Flendor | WB Venson |
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| 08:50.14 | ronino | hi |
| 08:50.48 | Venson | ty Flendor |
| 08:52.16 | ronino | when having a slot itemSelected(QListViewItem* i), i can cast it like MyItem* item = (MyItem*)i; and then do item->myMethod() which is a new method in the subclass, can i? |
| 08:52.39 | ronino | the problem is that i get an "invalid read of size 4" by valgrind when accessing the subclassed, casted object |
| 08:53.29 | ronino | i.e. when calling a method that is only in the subclass |
| 08:56.36 | sredna | ((MyItem*)i)->method(); |
| 08:57.02 | sredna | Or use dynamic_cast |
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| 09:02.14 | ronino | sredna: hmm, same result as with a normal cast |
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| 09:04.11 | ponto | ronino: and dynamic cast gives you a pointer != 0 |
| 09:05.14 | ronino | ponto: ah, i'll try |
| 09:07.58 | sredna | ronino: I assumed that there was a guarantee wrt the item type |
| 09:08.19 | ronino | sredna: wrt? |
| 09:08.21 | sredna | ronino: If you have other item classes in the listview, you need to test |
| 09:08.32 | sredna | Wrt == 'with respect to' |
| 09:08.42 | sredna | Sorry :) |
| 09:08.51 | ronino | ah, i see ;-) |
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| 09:12.23 | ronino | here is the the code of the problem: http://rafb.net/paste/results/gz60as75.html, the error occurs in line 35 |
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| 09:13.32 | ronino | maybe it got something to do with the FileListViewItem::fileInfo() method |
| 09:13.40 | ponto | ronino: where does dir come from? |
| 09:14.02 | ronino | ponto: oops, forgot that line, one moment |
| 09:14.58 | ronino | http://rafb.net/paste/results/NjnjDc21.html, error now on line 37 |
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| 09:15.40 | ronino | dynamic_cast returns an object |
| 09:15.50 | ronino | so the prob must be somewhere else |
| 09:16.28 | ponto | ronino: are you sure that the error is there? you have only a traceback of 4 |
| 09:17.25 | ponto | ronino: i would guess the emit command might be the error. |
| 09:17.41 | ponto | ronino: put the emit after std::cout |
| 09:17.53 | ronino | ponto: okay, i check |
| 09:18.02 | ponto | ronino: valgrind --num-callers=32 |
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| 09:25.34 | ronino | ponto: yes, it seems to be the emit's fault, folderSelected is folderSelected(const QString &), whereas QFileInfo::absFilePath() returns only QString |
| 09:26.33 | ponto | ronino: the const should be no problem. maybe the temporary is a problem |
| 09:27.03 | ronino | ponto: what temporary? |
| 09:27.33 | ponto | ronino: the return value of absFilePath() is a temporary |
| 09:27.54 | ronino | ponto: hmm |
| 09:28.05 | ponto | is folderSelected your function? |
| 09:28.55 | ronino | ponto: yes, it's my signal |
| 09:29.21 | benjamindees | hey Venson, ping ;) |
| 09:29.27 | Venson | hey benjamindees |
| 09:29.36 | benjamindees | Venson, did you see my q earlier ? |
| 09:29.45 | Venson | benjamindees: nope...*scrolls up* |
| 09:29.48 | benjamindees | xchat seems to have died on me :( |
| 09:29.57 | Venson | benjamindees: what do you mean? |
| 09:30.07 | benjamindees | nobody saw what I was typing :( |