irclog2html for #kde on 20041115

00:00.14thiagogrepper: the server is sending an empty page
00:00.58thiagoit's not the UA string
00:01.08thiagoso Konqueror must be sending an invalid URL
00:03.24canllaithphew
00:03.34canllaithok, it is safe to kill -15 xcompmgr.
00:03.54Renzecanllaith: nice to see it's a well-behaved app :)
00:04.52canllaith:P
00:04.57canllaithThe drop shadows are nice
00:05.12canllaithbut anything that slows a 2.4Ghz/1024MB/GforceFX to a crawl needs to be taken out the back and shot.
00:07.30slayerbobRenze, kill has always been fairly well behaved :)
00:07.47canllaithYeah but xcompmgr has not
00:07.48canllaithdamnit
00:07.50Renzeslayerbob: I was referring to xcompmgr, and you know it :P
00:07.55slayerbob:P
00:07.55canllaithWhy do i always try to tab complete unix commands in irc?
00:08.12slayerbobperhaps a better irc client is in order
00:08.47thiagoirssi tab-completes commands
00:09.09canllaithIt does?
00:09.10canllaithIt doesn't here
00:09.23canllaithWell it tab completes irc commands :P not unix ones
00:09.29thiagoof course
00:09.42canllaithI just find when I am conversing about a shell command my fingers automatically go to tab complete it :P
00:09.45thiagounless you start with /exec :)
00:09.46canllaithhabit.
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00:16.17FlendorIt's all well as long as you don't write your root password in irc like I did :/
00:17.02RenzeFlendor: what's your new one again? :)
00:17.10FlendorHeh
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00:20.17FlendorI^m gone.
00:20.19FlendorByes.
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00:28.02canllaithgweled is nice but... :P
00:28.30canllaithHow hard would it be, to take a GTK program and port it to KDE/QT ?
00:28.47canllaithWould you be better off rewriting it, or would you be able to reuse large chunks of the code?
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00:32.21canllaithsod I hate this kvm
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00:39.05grepperdamn, now viarail is telling me firefox doesn't accept cookies when I have several of there cookies in cache from a few minutes ago
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00:43.38illogicalcanllaith: what theme is that?
00:44.13Renzeillogical: in the screenshot? that's baghira
00:44.42illogicalit
00:44.44illogicalis
00:44.46illogicalhot!
00:48.14Big_Bozzillogical: which screenshot are you talking about? (I wanna take a peak :-))
00:48.24illogicalhttp://bryson.co.nz/~dessa/happy_kde1.png
00:49.11canllaithoi who is taking my name in vain
00:49.20canllaithoooh yes baghira
00:49.29canllaithheh and my Kopete stylesheet but I already gave you that :)
00:49.37Big_Bozzlooks sweet - how do you get shadowing on the windows though?
00:49.46canllaithPain, blood and darkness.
00:49.50canllaithOtherwise known as xcompmgr
00:49.54RenzeBig_Bozz: with xorg and xcompmgr
00:50.33Big_Bozzoh..
00:50.35Renzewheeee... gale force northerlies...
00:50.35illogicallol @ canllaith
00:51.16canllaithIt's just lightly pitter pattering here
00:52.14canllaithok
00:52.19canllaithit's a bit snappier without the 'fade' effect
00:52.27canllaithswitching workspaces is twice as fast
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00:53.51canllaithRenze: When you said it was quite usable can I assume you were not using -f ?
00:54.13Renzecanllaith: nope, just the shadows :)
00:54.46RenzeI like shadows, but I also like windows to be snappy :)
00:54.55canllaithI just did -Cc
00:55.04canllaithand it's quite reasonable on my fx5200
00:55.12canllaith(considering what a shite card it is)
00:55.27canllaith*sigh*
00:55.27Renzeit was quite reasonable on my GeForce2 MX440
00:55.49canllaithThe fx5200 is quite comparable to a Gforce4 MX440
00:55.55*** part/#kde ya (~bah@junkie.doomed.org)
00:55.57canllaithPrettier, you get all kinds of flashy effects on water and the like in games
00:56.01canllaithbut no higher frame rate.
00:56.20canllaithalthough I can drag transparent windows around the screen like, instantly.
00:56.34canllaithhardly any blurring
00:56.48canllaithdoesn't pause or jitter :) This aint bad
00:58.22canllaithoh you poor baby!
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00:58.36canllaithIt's ok, I have one that's worse (to make you feel better.)
00:59.23Renzeoops, sorry... 4MB :)
00:59.29canllaithI have a 4MB neomagic 256ZX
00:59.47canllaithand a 4MB Rage.. but that is not terribly bad compared to the neomagic, which will not play mpgs without segfaulting ;)
00:59.56Renzeheh :)
01:00.21Renzethe 8MB board is an MGA G200
01:02.30marcusUMy MGA G200 won't work until it gets warm... It literally won't put out a videi signal until the case gets nice and toasty inside.
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01:07.10illogicallmao
01:08.05illogicalmarcusU: that sucks, it must take a while before it gets warm
01:08.31illogicalmy pc takes about a minute or so but I'm running an athlon and it's overclocked:-)
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01:10.03illogicalaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahah
01:10.04marcusUillogical: I upgraded to a G550 cuz I was having to put a space heater next to the computer.
01:10.07illogicallmao!
01:10.27illogicalhmm, wrong chan
01:11.05illogicalwas laughing at an url. it's a site for "sac"less underwear
01:11.17Dhraakelliantmi?
01:11.50illogical}:-B
01:11.53illogicalheheh
01:12.01illogicalmy newe favorite smiley
01:12.14illogicalI call him bucktoothed bill
01:13.26marcusUillogical: What's the UIR?
01:13.28marcusUURI
01:13.49Oleg_after amaroK was gone, I simply don't know what to talk about.
01:13.54Dhraakellian!;)
01:14.07Dhraakellianyay!
01:14.12illogicalmarcusU: check your pm
01:14.31illogicalI saw The Incredibles!
01:14.37illogicalIt was incredible!
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01:15.28illogicalLoooooooooots of extra stuff
01:15.31Oleg_I don't have money to buy alcohol
01:15.31illogicalkde 3.3.0
01:15.34illogicalX 6.8.1
01:15.38marcusUThe SBC commercial for DSL had the incredibles in it, and it made me feel bad, so I dont' want to see their movie.
01:15.56Oleg_the last time I was drunk was VEEEEEEERY LONG time ago
01:16.27Dhraakelliandear binky...
01:16.34Dhraakelliana drunk oleg?
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01:16.54canllaithooops I guess I wasn't using screen after all :)
01:17.08Dhraakellianheh
01:17.13Oleg_I don't feel shy when I'm drunk
01:17.26Oleg_and I would know what to talk about
01:17.59Oleg_But now, as always, I feel discomfort
01:18.16Oleg_or discomfortable?
01:18.44marcusUThe last time I was drunk was about 12 hours ago. (That would be the tail-end.)
01:19.04Oleg_marcusU: you are so lucky!
01:20.18Oleg_I remember one time I came to college drunk
01:20.33Oleg_or maybe even twice
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01:20.54Oleg_I took tests drunk
01:23.10Oleg_I feel much more confident in myself when I am drunk
01:24.33marcusUYes, that's normal.
01:27.52slayerbobi just always feel confident :(
01:28.41Oleg_slayerbob: I am not surprised. you are probably financially independent and you can get girls.
01:29.13slayerbobwhy would i want to get girls ? i already have one :P
01:29.21Oleg_yeah
01:29.41Dhraakellian"I should warn you: we're about to enter hyperspace.  It's unpleasantly like being drunk."
01:29.41Dhraakellian"Well, what's so unpleasant about being drunk?"
01:29.41Dhraakellian"You ask a glass of water"
01:30.38Oleg_When I am drunk, I say what's on my mind
01:31.02Oleg_I am ruder when I am drunk
01:31.10slayerbobwhen i am on irc i say what is on my mind :)
01:31.12Oleg_but this happens to everybody
01:31.17slayerbobi am ruder when i am on irc
01:32.04Oleg_slayerbob: I am more open on irc too because people on irc can't do anything to me
01:32.11slayerbobhmmmm
01:32.15Oleg_slayerbob: but I am not ruder
01:32.15slayerbobmaybe irc = drunk :D
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01:32.30Dhraakellian/kick Oleg_
01:33.33Oleg_I only get ruder if I am drunk
01:33.47Oleg_but people tell me I am rude even when I am sober
01:34.01Oleg_which means I get even ruder when I am drunk
01:34.42annmahi! what's up?
01:34.51Oleg_annma: chilling
01:34.51canllaithHey there annma :D
01:34.57Renzehola annma :)
01:35.40grepperMa Ann :)
01:35.53slayerbob:P
01:36.00slayerboblet's test that assertion :P
01:36.21Oleg_slayerbob: you wanna test it on yourself?
01:36.29Oleg_slayerbob: by getting drunk?
01:36.37slayerbobOleg_, i have no alcohol here and it is the middle of a work day
01:36.52slayerbobalthough i cannot see myself doing any work for a couple of hours
01:36.52Oleg_slayerbob: ok
01:36.59canllaithslayerbob: and you also don't have any desire to sleep on the couch tonight I am sure :)
01:37.01slayerbobsince i am waiting for winxp on my test network to finish updating
01:37.15slayerbobi dunno... couch is kinda comfy
01:37.25canllaithas you wish.
01:37.35annmagrepper: ;)
01:42.01Oleg_I am very afraid I'll be a virgin at 25!
01:42.13Oleg_it terrifies me
01:43.54Oleg_Dhraakellian: or until you meet a person you are in love with?
01:44.07slayerbobor are sufficiently drunk ?
01:44.11Oleg_hehe
01:44.20DhraakellianOleg_: enough to marry
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01:45.21jcurryall of my kopete aim contacts are marked as 'unkonwn', even when I'm talking to them...
01:45.29jcurryHow do I fix it?
01:45.51annmawas it always like that?
01:46.17jcurryannma, no, it screwed up when i changed my buddy list to a different display style
01:46.49annmadid you try to reverse to previous style?
01:46.55jcurrychanging it back doesn't help
01:47.24annmaobviously the real names are still there if you can conect
01:47.27jcurryi also replaced the icons, so i could have non-pixely icons, but that should be the problem
01:47.27annmaconnect
01:47.45jcurryyes, everything works, except their status
01:47.56jcurrythey are always 'unknown'
01:48.12jcurryI have tried adding and deleting them, and my account
01:48.16jcurryno change
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01:48.58jcurryhmm, maybe i should just reinstall
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01:49.45annmalook at the kopeterc file
01:49.59annmain ~/.kde/share/config
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01:53.01jcurryok...
01:53.24jcurrywhat am i lokking for?
01:53.26jcurrylooking*
01:55.18annmathe gaim accounts
01:55.24annmaaim contacts
01:56.19jcurrymy aim account is there, but not my contacts
01:57.27jcurrythere are also a bunch of kopeterc(randomchars).new files
01:58.21annmaohh, pick one ans look whta's in it
01:58.40jcurrymost are empty, others look like backups
01:59.55jcurrybut no contact info :(
02:00.03jcurryare they supposed to have contact info?
02:00.15jcurryI'll just add the appropriate section by hand
02:00.25jcurryI don't have that many friends :)
02:00.29canllaiththe contact list
02:00.34canllaithis in ~/.kde/share/apps/kopete
02:00.38jcurryoh.
02:00.40canllaithrather than ~/.kde/share/config
02:00.41canllaith:)
02:00.53annmaah, my bad
02:01.54jcurrythey are all there, in contactlist.xml...
02:02.03jcurryand they look normal.
02:02.08canllaithjcurry: Try deleting that file, or moving it elsewhere
02:02.13canllaithThat will force kopete to redownload them from the server
02:02.20canllaithThat fixes most buddy list probs.
02:02.22jcurryok, i'll try that
02:02.30canllaithPerhaps move rather than delete it :)
02:03.04jcurrymoved :)
02:03.04canllaith:)
02:03.04canllaithlol
02:03.45canllaithI got artsd working again yay! Noatun rocks.
02:04.18jcurryum, it went and got the list again.
02:04.29canllaithIt will redownload them from the server...
02:04.34jcurrynow they are all marked offline...
02:04.39canllaithIf they are still borked, it's a good sign the serverside list is borked.
02:04.41jcurrybut they may well be...
02:04.44canllaithheh
02:04.53canllaithjcurry: If you like you can add me momentarily to test
02:05.01jcurryplease?
02:05.04jcurryyou are....
02:06.20jcurrycanllaith, you are offline, but at least you have a grey aim guy under your name...none of my other contact do.
02:06.32canllaithinteresting. May I have your aim so I can try messaging you?
02:07.01Oleg_canllaith: give me your screen-name
02:07.08canllaithOleg_: Keep dreaming.
02:08.22Oleg_I need alcohol
02:08.24Oleg_now!
02:08.35Oleg_but no money is in my house
02:08.43Oleg_and I don't know where Mom is
02:09.01canllaithjcurry: One last thing you can try
02:09.15canllaithis manually deleting and then readding your contacts (which is very tedious, I know)
02:09.29jcurryI already tried that.
02:09.37canllaithSod. Well, you're showing as online to me.
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02:09.47jcurryI'll hang out a bit until my friends come on, or call them, and make them come online
02:10.18canllaith:P
02:10.26Dhraakellianmuahahahaha
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02:10.50jcurryI think it will be ok now, but i'm not sure
02:11.00jcurryI'll come back if i have more problems
02:11.06swimhi, can anyone tell me how to use qt+gtk engine?
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02:11.30Dhraakellianswim: do you already have it installed?
02:11.48swimDhraakellian, yup
02:12.09Dhraakellianif so, use gtk-theme-switch or gtk-chtheme (or gnome-control-center if you really must) to change the GTK theme
02:12.19Dhraakellianit'll probably be listed as "Qt"
02:12.42Dhraakellianwait... actually... doesn't it install a kcontrol module now?
02:12.52canllaithYes
02:12.54RenzeDhraakellian: or you can just go to kcontrol -> Appearance & Themes -> GTK Styles and Fonts
02:13.04swimoh ! thats nice hmm dont see it...
02:13.06Dhraakelliangranted, I still prefer gtk-ch-theme
02:13.18Dhraakelliangtk-chtheme*
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02:14.03canllaithswim: You using the latest version of gtk-qt ?
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02:14.11xomphi canllaith :)
02:14.17swimcanllaith, dunno was installed by default in suse 9.2
02:14.28Oleg_grepper: you watchin' Gladiator with Russel Crowe in it?
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02:14.54xompit's me... the furgesson :D
02:15.00Renzeturd!
02:15.12xomplost my slackware disk :(
02:15.28canllaithawww no!
02:15.30xompthanks to me thinking the drive was lockable for my xbox :(
02:15.51xompI couldn't back it up either i'm affraid so now I'm gonna reinstall it to a 15 gig heh
02:16.21xompI did however manage to install one of my 40gig hdd's to my xbox so i'm happy about that :D
02:16.41Oleg_apt: chilling?
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02:17.10Oleg_apt: answer me
02:17.25swimbytheway is there anyway to make baghira more like milk, not just the buttons?
02:17.42canllaithYou can choose to use custom colours
02:17.51canllaithand manually set gradients and stuff :P
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02:18.20swimhow about the slider...
02:18.34canllaithI imagine you can manually tweak the gradient so it is more white.. I haven't looked into it.
02:18.49canllaithThere is all the custom colour settings on the last tab
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02:21.48Dhraakellianprobably
02:22.09Oleg_int x = y;
02:22.14Oleg_int jeep = x;
02:22.22Oleg_int x(float);
02:22.34Oleg_int what = whatt;
02:22.39Oleg_new = x;
02:22.50Oleg_int* bam;
02:23.03Oleg_dunno how to use the new keyword
02:23.17Oleg_int ah = ah;
02:23.28Oleg_for (; x; z;)
02:23.35Oleg_{
02:23.44Oleg_switch: case 1:
02:23.53Oleg_van;
02:23.57Oleg_bon;
02:24.07Oleg_default: wat;
02:24.08Oleg_}
02:24.20Oleg_int -> eh;
02:24.48Oleg_<cmath>
02:25.44Oleg_Give Peace A Chance http://www.pupeno.com")
02:26.00Oleg_all we are saying
02:26.09Oleg_is Give Peace A Chance
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02:30.34Dhraakellianhmm...
02:30.36illogicalnanana nah nana nah nananananah
02:30.55Dhraakellianthe crystal windec the way I have it set up looks much better when the wallpaper isn't mainly black
02:31.29illogicalnananah nananah nanananah nananah nananananah
02:31.32illogicalalright
02:31.39illogicalyeah eeah
02:32.14Oleg_nanana nah nana nah nananananah
02:32.14Oleg_Dhraakellian the crystal windec the way I have it set up looks much better when the wallpaper isn't mainly black
02:32.14Oleg_* zqxs has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host))
02:32.14Oleg_illogical nananah nananah nanananah nananah nananananah
02:32.14Oleg_illogical alright
02:32.16swimwithin baghira, how do I set the window title to be a darker color? its wite now...
02:32.18Oleg_illogical yeah eeah
02:32.36illogicalOleg_: ?
02:32.38DhraakellianOleg_: what the narf are you doing?
02:32.41illogicalare you ill?
02:32.54Oleg_illogical: I am just chilling
02:33.51Oleg_I'm gonna watch some soap segments
02:34.27illogicalyou really love your soap operas, eh?
02:34.35Oleg_yeah
02:34.36illogicaleach to his own I suppose
02:35.39canllaithinteresting
02:35.46canllaithXnest does evil things with xcomposite and xcompmgr running
02:37.47illogicalXnest does evil things period
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02:38.19Oleg_wow, this segment rocks
02:38.19illogicalcanllaith: what smileys were you using in your screenshot?
02:38.36Oleg_she tells him she wants him back in her life
02:39.49Oleg_my Mom came home
02:40.13canllaithillogical: They are http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=9483
02:40.19Oleg_so I am hiding the fact that I'm watching a soap
02:40.46Oleg_I feel too embarrassed to talk about soaps with my Mom
02:40.48illogicalcanny knows where all the cool stuff is :-)
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02:45.57Oleg_why is it so hard to create a Palestinian state?
02:46.14Oleg_Palestinians had their chance in 1948
02:46.24Oleg_and in 2000
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02:46.49Oleg_yet a Palestinian state is still a dream
02:47.10_KonvIRCHI I'm trying to get an epson 2480 scanner working. Can anyone help?
02:47.22thiagousing kooka?
02:47.36_KonvIRCsane
02:47.51_KonvIRCkooka needs it doesn't it?
02:47.55thiagoI think so
02:48.21_KonvIRCI think so too
02:49.06Oleg_what do they want? Jerusalem as their capital?
02:49.17Oleg_So give them some part of Jerusalem
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02:51.54Oleg_yeah
02:52.12Oleg_I am just chilling
02:52.24thiagoyou're opening a can of worms
02:57.07Oleg_did anybody hear of the National Democratic Party of Germany?
02:58.03Oleg_the German People's party is another far-right party
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02:59.22yangeranyone know why when i use konquerer or k3b to access /mnt, it lags and lags and lags?
02:59.40Oleg_oh, NDP was more popular in the 1960s.
03:00.01slayerbobyanger, do you have a remote smb share mounted somewhere in there which is no longer accessible ?
03:00.14yangeryep heh
03:00.19slayerbobwell there you go :)
03:00.20yangeri have to remove those from fstab? :|
03:00.27canllaithNo, just force unmount it
03:00.28yangerbut i uncommented them out
03:00.35yangerand umounted them
03:00.38slayerbobuncommenting things will do that
03:00.46yangerer
03:00.52yangercommented the smb shares out
03:00.56slayerbobah
03:01.37yangerlet's see, smb shares all commented out, except 1 which is active. no smbs are mounted except that smb that i kept
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03:02.59swimhi folks
03:04.03swimIm trying to install the Milk theme (got it from kde-look) and am getting this: 1 - Looking for KDE home directories (this may take quite a while!) 2 - Copying files ..... Done! 3 - Announce style ./install.sh: line 18: kinstalltheme: command not found 4 - Milk style and IceWM window decoration installation completed. 5 - Enjoy it !!!
03:04.19swimand it doesnt appear in kcontrol
03:04.51canllaithI believe
03:04.54canllaithit is for kde 3.1
03:05.03swimoh, cannot be used in 3.3 ?
03:06.40swimcanllaith, cannot it not be used in 3.3 ? and can I not install it manually?
03:06.51canllaithNo.
03:07.49swimcanllaith, ok, how about this, Im using baghira, and the title bar fonts are in white, can I change them to black?
03:08.05canllaithWhy don't you look in the style options, and in the colour scheme options?
03:08.20swimi looked in style...
03:08.28canllaithso look under colour
03:08.34swimah there it is
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03:09.55Oleg_I don't get it. I gotta read about these far-right parties.
03:10.11swimnice, now all I need is to be able to get the bloody baghira scroll bar to be like milk and Im done
03:11.10canllaithalrighty finished playing with slax. I can see us doing interesting things with this slayerbob
03:11.24slayerbob:o
03:13.22canllaithniiiiiice
03:13.28canllaithroot@slax:/# df -h
03:13.28canllaithFilesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
03:13.28canllaithtmpfs                 795M  185M  611M  24% /
03:16.13canllaithrebooting into my real os bbl:p
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03:21.42slayerbobwb canllaith :)
03:21.49canllaithty
03:22.26canllaithsod
03:22.33canllaithUsing compiler "/usr/bin/gcc". Use environment variable CC to override.
03:22.33canllaithcc1: internal compiler error: Segmentation fault
03:23.02canllaithvmware:P
03:23.06canllaithand again
03:23.11canllaithmake[2]: Entering directory `/tmp/vmware-config2/vmmon-only/driver-2.6.9'
03:23.11canllaithcc1: internal compiler error: Segmentation fault
03:23.17canllaithThat isn't very friendly.
03:24.36illogicalonce again canllaith has made my pc look just a little hotter :-)
03:26.34canllaithheh
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03:28.26_KonvIRCSo, does anyone have any experience getting epson scanners to work?
03:28.59illogicalnot I and not exactly a #kde issue, is it?
03:29.36_KonvIRCThere's no one in sane and The BorgQueen told me to come here for help.
03:29.54_KonvIRCI'm a "Saved Crack Monkey"
03:29.57canllaithhahaha
03:30.04canllaithShe's a cutey
03:30.07_KonvIRCShe said I would be helped.
03:30.16canllaithI guess she was referring to me
03:30.22canllaithand I'm afraid, I don't know anything about epson scanners.
03:30.34_KonvIRCcanllaith from Zealand?
03:30.37canllaithAye
03:30.42_KonvIRCYup
03:30.49_KonvIRCOh darn
03:30.49canllaithheh my reputation preceeds me ;)
03:30.55canllaithHowever if you have a specific error
03:30.58canllaithI'm a wizard with google
03:31.04_KonvIRCShe's no available now.
03:31.16_KonvIRCShe's building one of her weird machines
03:31.23_KonvIRCLOL been googling.
03:31.35canllaithspeaking of google brb
03:31.38_KonvIRCAccording t SANE, I have everything correct
03:31.49_KonvIRChttp://snapscan.sourceforge.net/
03:32.01_KonvIRChttp://www.sane-project.org/man/sane-snapscan.5.html
03:32.51illogical"Saved Crack Monkey". She has such a way with words
03:33.37swimhrrm is there a kpager app (the one where you can drag windows from one virtual desktop to the other) for suse 64bit?
03:34.02_KonvIRCYeah, you should see her freaky computer. All sorts of crap sticking out of everywhere
03:34.05illogicalanyhoo, i'd suggest going to #sane or #linux but the people in #sane are few and quite possibly dead
03:34.16illogicaland in #linux you need to be registered to speak
03:34.17_KonvIRCBeen to sane, it's dead
03:34.29_KonvIRCBeen there too
03:35.18canllaith* rhythm is a creation, a better sensation.... *
03:35.33_KonvIRChuh?
03:35.39canllaithheh I'm singin
03:35.40canllaith;)
03:35.44canllaithDon't mind us we're all insane.
03:35.46_KonvIRCymmv?
03:35.50illogicalcanllaith: fooking in the bushes?
03:35.51slayerbobwell i certainly am :)
03:35.55_KonvIRCYeah she told me
03:35.55canllaithahhh your milage my vary
03:35.56slayerbobinsane that is
03:35.58canllaithLOL
03:36.05canllaithWell that was nice of her
03:36.10_KonvIRCoh yah
03:36.20_KonvIRCShe's nuts too.
03:36.26illogical<PROTECTED>
03:36.27illogical<PROTECTED>
03:36.28canllaithWe'd noticed ;)
03:36.31canllaithhahaha
03:36.32illogicalmuahah
03:36.54_KonvIRClol
03:37.16canllaithDoes noatun support funky visualisations?
03:37.26_KonvIRCMine does
03:37.26canllaithw00t nm
03:37.27illogicalI think so
03:37.40canllaithoh my gosh
03:37.44canllaithit has true transparency
03:37.47canllaith!!!!!
03:37.51Dhraakellianwere are sessions stored?  I seem to have momentarily forgotten?
03:37.58Dhraakellianminus the second question mark
03:38.05canllaith.kde/share/config/session
03:38.06Dhraakelliannm
03:38.15Dhraakellianfound it just as you sent
03:38.18canllaith:P
03:38.26canllaithThe blur scope has true transparency under xorg :o
03:38.30_KonvIRCok. so I'm barking up the wrong tree huh
03:38.35illogicalso i founf out today that the test i have to do
03:38.40canllaithSorry _KonvIRC but I don't own an epson scanner
03:38.52_KonvIRCNo problem
03:39.19illogicalthe one i've been studying for (intermittently) for about two weeks now is only available to be done in april
03:39.23illogical2005
03:39.39illogicalSo I ain't got shit to do now :-)
03:39.55illogicalAnd I will haxXx j00!
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03:40.36illogicalI was just kidding...
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03:45.22yangerunder k3b, what is rock-ridge extensions?
03:45.42yangeri just want the data dvd to be readable by win*/*nux
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03:46.44illogicaland hopes that the info is actually there...
03:46.50yanger:X
03:46.53yangerforgot about that
03:46.54yangerheh
03:47.21illogicalmost people do :-)
03:47.54canllaithOMG illogical !!!!
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03:48.00canllaithhttp://bryson.co.nz/~dessa/happy_kde3.png
03:48.10canllaithand that vis is *truly* transparent, if I put it over another window I see through it still :|
03:48.58Sweeperuytrewq
03:49.04canllaithbut but but it never did that before!
03:49.52illogicalI thought you never used the noatun visualizations before
03:50.28canllaith....
03:50.46canllaithhow does that make the statement 'it never did that before' any less accurate?
03:50.48illogicalI still believe it should suffer a similarly painful fate as arts however
03:50.51canllaithIt makes it a truism....
03:51.08illogicalcanllaith: If you never used it before there can be no "before"
03:51.24canllaithuh
03:51.26canllaithyes there can
03:51.27canllaithbefore I used it.
03:51.29canllaith:)
03:51.30slayerbobillogical, sure there can :)
03:51.38illogicaldetails :-p
03:51.40slayerbobthere is a whole page on mathworld dedicated to it :P
03:51.41canllaithHence why I'm not yawning and going meh
03:51.47canllaithcause it never did that before!!!
03:52.25slayerbobor maybe it was wikipedia...
03:52.25canllaithIt's using a ridiculous amount of cpu :p
03:52.46illogicalThat's how you can tell it's openGL
03:52.50illogicalthey all do.
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03:57.51canllaithnvidia drivers absolutely rock here.
03:58.07Sizainthows it going yall
03:58.31illogicalthey hate my mobo >_<
03:58.39canllaithawww poor bub
03:58.43canllaithnot bad Sizaint
03:58.56illogicalSizaint: I'm bitching about nvidia, drivers while canllaith is praising him
03:59.01illogicals/him/them
03:59.09canllaithhey, I have pretty visualisations!
03:59.12slayerbobyeah the nvidia linux drivers are pretty good
03:59.18illogicalall in all a wonderful point counterpoint discussion
03:59.31canllaithlol you poor thing Sizaint
03:59.40Sizaintgoing insane
03:59.41Sizaint;)
04:00.26canllaithheh ok that's pretty impressive
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04:00.35illogicallol
04:00.44canllaithpc didn't overheat and die
04:00.54canllaith:P
04:01.08canllaithheh
04:02.28brucehoultRenze: that was just the local AIM server exploding
04:02.43Renzebrucehoult: ah, that's OK then :)
04:03.01illogicalI really should buy the DVDs anyway
04:04.15canllaithSod.
04:04.28canllaithKopete cvs does not seem to support away in aim!
04:04.44canllaithIt seems it's decided that's having my cake and eating it too and I should just pick online or offline
04:04.58illogicalcan you IM yourself yet on with cvs?
04:05.03canllaithnot sure
04:05.42canllaithheh
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04:06.31slayerbobcanllaith has built in people that she can annoy with testing im clients :)
04:06.42canllaithYep I can kick slayerbob off his pc and IM me from there :)
04:07.53illogicalis slayerbob someone you work with too?
04:08.09canllaithYou could say that.
04:08.21slayerbobor indeed you could just X-forward from this machine to yours and not have to kick me off
04:08.26canllaithTrue.
04:08.29slayerbobin practice she just ims me
04:08.37canllaithIt's much more fun to steal your keyboard so all the boys in #physics go 'owned!'
04:08.38slayerboband then says "did that work - ok ignore it"
04:09.08illogicallol
04:10.18canllaithok I stop playing with transparency now
04:11.42illogicalDon't stop till yah get enough!
04:11.50illogicalChmon!
04:12.07illogicalwoo!
04:12.24canllaithIt really really makes me want to buy a mac cause while I think this is nice and pretty
04:12.33canllaithI know it's really crap compared to a mac.
04:13.15illogicalit is.
04:13.22illogicalit'll get better though.
04:13.37canllaith:P
04:13.48illogicalat least i didn't say comfarts
04:14.09illogicalor worse...
04:15.54canllaithis there a key shortcut in konsole for new session?
04:16.14canllaithah there it is nm
04:16.44illogicalwoot!
04:16.50illogicalqt finished building
04:16.52canllaithsodding kvm
04:17.21Creutairstupid question.  I had gnome installed, it's gone now.  I am very sure that the .desktop menu entries are removed.  I have gone so far as to grep -ir "totem" from the /usr itself as well as my /home and still can't find them.  However, the programs are still in the kmenu listing.  Where the heck are these listed ?
04:17.54illogicalCreutair: ~/.local
04:18.01canllaithCreutair: They could be in $KDEDIR/etc/xdg/menus
04:18.03illogicalsomewhere deep down in there most likely
04:18.11canllaith(that is where some KDE defaults are)
04:18.15canllaithand yeah, .local and .config
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04:19.57Oleg_There is a danger that the NDP party will become the part of the German Parliament in 2006.
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04:21.39CreutairI've completely moved my user's dir into a new dir (~/OLD) and started anew, it's somewhere system wide .. there is no xdg in /usr or /etc
04:21.59Creutairgrep -ir of "muine" in /usr/kde/3.3/ gives me nothing, same thing in /usr/share
04:22.13canllaithCreutair: When you say you have moved your users dir
04:22.22canllaithDo you mean $HOME or $KDEHOME ?
04:22.50Creutairthe config/ lists nothing ... when I click on a .wmv it claims that /usr/share/applications/totem.desktop is invalid (which it is, since it's gone with totem) but I can't for the life of me find out  why it's still listing these
04:23.11Creutaircanllaith: I logged in, ran "mkdir OLD ; mv * OLD ; echo "exec startkde" > .xinitrc ; start
04:23.13Creutair.. startx
04:23.41canllaithok
04:23.56canllaithWill mv * pick up hidden directories? I do not think they do.
04:24.03canllaithit* does
04:24.07Creutairwell, I moved them to
04:24.24Creutairit was a generalisation, since I moved my Audio and .bash profiles back
04:24.35Creutairbut the previous .kde and such was no longer in ~/
04:24.46canllaithThe xdg dir is in $KDEDIR/etc
04:24.51canllaithSo.... that may not be /etc
04:24.57canllaithWhat is the prefix KDE is installed to?
04:25.11Creutairrunning Gentoo, it's in /usr/kde/3.3/
04:25.25Creutairthere is no xdg dir on the system at all it appears
04:26.01canllaithI hate this kvm
04:26.03canllaith2 secs :)
04:26.12illogicalkvm?
04:26.33Creutairdanke
04:26.38canllaithEvil demon device that allows you to operate two pcs with the same keyboard/monitor/mouse
04:26.59canllaithIt also likes to randomly hold down your last keypress indefinitely, noticibly more often when you have a system configuration file open or a script you're working on :)
04:27.00slayerbobyeah the owner of the company that canllaith and i work for is too cheap to buy a decent kvm so we are stuck with this crap one :(
04:27.09canllaithYeah too true slayerbob
04:27.52canllaithheh running make clean is making my vis go all jerky
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04:29.20illogicalCreutair: ls -l ~/.local
04:29.32Creutairthere is no ~/.local
04:29.58CreutairI just started KDE maybe half an hour ago or so, I've barely changed many settings yet
04:29.58illogicalis that what the command said?
04:30.09Creutairls: /home/tminos/.local: No such file or directory
04:30.18illogicalCreutair: ls -l ~/.config
04:30.27Creutairsame thing
04:30.31illogicalCreutair: ls -l /etc/xdg
04:30.35CreutairI just started KDE not that long ago, it's something system wide
04:31.00Creutairillogical: there is no xdg in /etc
04:31.10illogicalhum
04:32.29illogicalCreutair: do a recursive grep in /usr/share for muine and that other app
04:32.46Creutairit gives me nothing at all
04:32.57illogicalmuine.desktop and other_app.desktop
04:33.02CreutairI can't find it anywhere at all on the filesystem, I've run it from /home/ and /usr alike
04:33.16canllaithIt obviously must be in the filesystem, yes?
04:33.21canllaithI would consider that simple logic.
04:33.36Creutairyes, that's  why I'm so puzzled :)
04:35.48canllaithI hope not.
04:36.06illogicaly?
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04:40.50illogicalwhy wonders how long he been online for...
04:41.14Creutairthis is kindof sad
04:41.22Creutairin /usr I have an applications, applnk, and apps
04:43.10swimhi does anyone know how to use kmldonkey>
04:43.12swim?
04:43.22illogicalapps is where apps store their data, applnk is provided for the menu and applications is for the new freedesktop.org menu structure
04:43.28illogicalif memory serves
04:44.45Creutairhmm, and I thought that's what share/ in general was for, for the apps to store their data
04:44.48illogicalswim: yes. will I tell? no.
04:45.12illogicalCreutair: they're actually in the /usr dir and not /usr/share?
04:45.23Creutairoh, they're in /usr/share/, sorry
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04:46.42swimillogical, so I need to install mldonkey seperatly right?
04:46.49illogicalyes
04:47.06swimhmm bizzare suse has kmldonkey in its packages but not mldonkey
04:47.30illogicalmldonkey is not OS software
04:47.47illogicalOpen Source
04:48.12swimhrmm
04:48.51illogicalthen again neither is java or staroffice
04:49.14illogicalI suppose it's for potential legal reasons
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04:55.19swimillogical, does every p2p app readily available run on mldonkey?
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05:29.34SuperLagis there a way to apply the Plastik theme to the buttons in Konqueror? (so that they don't have the default Keramik look.
05:38.22grepperyes, use plastik :)
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05:42.04Borg^QueenHey people
05:43.27RenzeBorg borg borg </swedish chef>
05:43.32Borg^QueenLOL
05:43.41Borg^Queen`I love the muppets
05:43.41canllaithborgy!
05:43.45Borg^QueenHey canllaith
05:43.45canllaithyou been telling people I'm insane :O
05:43.47canllaithI heard! :O
05:44.11Borg^QueenYeah and?
05:44.41canllaith*sniff* well ... maybe you hurt my feelings ?
05:44.43canllaith*sniff*
05:44.51Borg^QueenNo I didn't
05:44.53canllaithcause like... ok, I can't even keep a straight face in ascii, so nm :p
05:44.57Borg^QueenYou'd have to be sane for that
05:44.58canllaith<smirk>
05:45.00canllaithhahaha
05:51.48SuperLagOh yeah, that was brilliance alright.
05:52.18Borg^QueenWhat was?>
05:53.12Oleg_so...
05:55.00Oleg_I am interested in a romantic relationship with a girl. Any girl here is interested?
05:55.24canllaithNot even slightly.
05:55.38Oleg_but keep in mind, girls, that I am unemployed, so I can't support you
05:55.53Borg^QueenOleg_: I can build one for you
05:56.08Borg^QueenUhp, you can't afford it
05:57.39Oleg_I am interested in a good looking and nice girl.
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05:58.16Borg^QueenShe can be.
05:58.31Oleg_Borg^Queen: who?
05:58.48Borg^QueenThe woman I build for you
05:58.52Oleg_oh, any girl?
05:58.54Oleg_ok
05:59.55Oleg_whatcha mean build a girl?
06:00.14Oleg_is it a joke?
06:00.23Oleg_yeah, it's a joke
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06:01.10Oleg_I will suffer a serious mental degradation if I don't get a girl by the age of 24.
06:01.55YeTr2Does KDE allow for mutiple panels on the same desktop?
06:02.04canllaithYeTr2: Yes.
06:02.05CreutairYeTr2: yes
06:02.22canllaith:O
06:02.33Borg^QueenA joke? Yah ok
06:02.55Oleg_how do you men get girls?
06:03.01Borg^QueenHumans. All touchy feely
06:03.14Oleg_I don't know how to get a girl
06:03.16Borg^QueenThey don't get them. They befriend them
06:03.17YeTr2canllaith, Creutair, any helpful readme's? I can't seem to find any
06:03.38Borg^QueenOleg_: join or start a LUG group in your area
06:03.49Sizaintcanllaith: how did u get kpager to show screenshots of ur diff desktops?
06:03.50RenzeYeTr2: right click on Panel, go to Add, go to Panel, select Child Panel
06:04.14Borg^QueenHow do I extract a win cab file?
06:04.27canllaiththere is a cabextract util Borg^Queen
06:04.38YeTr2Renze, thanks
06:04.41Borg^Queenok I'll google
06:04.44canllaithSizaint: You just right click on it and go 'configure kpager' and set the windows to be pixmap instead of plain or icno
06:04.45canllaitherm icon*
06:05.49Sizainthmm.. guess mine is not kpager
06:06.04canllaithkpager comes with kicker
06:06.08canllaithso...... I'd say it is
06:06.24Sizaintwell it just says pager, and dose not have a configure option? :\
06:07.01Oleg_this is one of the reasons I wanna get drunk
06:07.01RenzeSizaint: canllaith is using the stand alone kpager, not the panel applet
06:07.01Oleg_because I don't get girls
06:07.07SizaintRenze: o
06:07.14canllaithSizaint: Right click on it and select 'Launch Pager'
06:08.06Oleg_people, do you know there is a danger that the NDP party of Germany will win some seats in the German parliament in 2006?
06:08.51Oleg_Now it has some seats in the Saxony parliament
06:09.23Oleg_this puts fear in me
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06:10.40Oleg_Also, some conservative judges may be nominated to the U.S. Supreme Court
06:11.06Oleg_oh, God, please, don't let them overturn Roy vs. Wade
06:13.07Oleg_slayerbob: whassup?
06:13.40Oleg_canllaith?
06:14.21Oleg_anybody?
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06:14.24canllaith?
06:14.44Oleg_canllaith: I am in a terrible mental shape
06:17.44canllaithoh?
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06:17.49Oleg_yeah
06:18.45Borg^QueenWhy?
06:18.50Oleg_I may end up being in a mental hospital if I don't get a girl.
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06:19.38brucehoultOleg_: I hear they have some out in the Big Room
06:19.53Borg^QueenOleg_: come on
06:20.08Oleg_what do you mean by the Big Room?
06:20.34brucehoultand, y'know, if none of them like you, you can pay one to pretend to like you for an hour or so
06:20.57Borg^QueenNice bruce
06:21.02canllaithWhich brucehoult seems to know a heck of a lot about ;)
06:21.12Dhraakellianouch and touche
06:21.24Oleg_brucehoult: and I will get pleasure and satisfaction from her?
06:21.27Borg^Queen:) sweet canllaith
06:21.49DhraakellianOleg_: probably more than your getting from Ms. Right Hand
06:22.05Oleg_ok
06:22.09brucehoultCaution: may be illegal in your state
06:22.14canllaithRight.
06:22.22canllaithNow, I can type without my keys getting stuck down.
06:22.23canllaithYay!
06:22.47brucehoultand I think it's a silly idea, but it's really bothering you *that* much...
06:23.09Oleg_brucehoult: yeah
06:23.45canllaithhahahaha
06:23.52canllaithOk someone needs to come over to my house
06:23.54canllaithwith a camera.
06:24.08canllaithWe have the man of the house in the kitchen scrubbing pots, while I sit with my feet up and code.
06:24.24canllaithThis just feels so right and fitting, I want to photograph it and frame it.
06:24.31brucehoultwill he still be doing that in 4 days and 4 hours, do'ya think?
06:24.37Oleg_canllaith: code in what language?
06:24.44brucehoultDylan
06:25.00brucehoultor C or shell :-)
06:25.10canllaithheh yeah it's abit of musical languages tonight ;)
06:25.12brucehoultor asm
06:25.17brucehoultdepending on your point of view :-)
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06:25.46brucehoultresistance is futile
06:25.57brucehoultyou will be assimilated
06:26.09brucehoulthold on .. shouldn't that be someone else's line?
06:26.29Borg^QueenHey hey hey
06:26.35canllaithGot the lighter and a can of petrol Renze ?
06:26.54Borg^Queensacrificing donkeys people steeling my lines what is this?
06:27.02canllaith#kde of course
06:27.06Borg^Queenlol
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06:28.00Oleg_I am thinking if I'll get enough pleasure from a prostitute
06:28.48Oleg_I hope you know whatcha talking about.
06:28.55canllaithoh I'm sure he does Oleg_ :)
06:29.28Borg^QueenOleg_:  you're wasting your timne
06:29.43Borg^QueenFind a friend first, get to know her., Build something
06:30.21Oleg_Borg^Queen: I don't know how to find a friend and get to know her.
06:31.04Borg^QueenJoin a LUG group that welcomes women, a church that isn't too nuts like  a Unitarian.
06:31.11Renzeah... the joys of ass immolation
06:31.21Borg^QueenVolunteer for habitats for humanity
06:31.22canllaithlol
06:31.25canllaithLUG group that welcomes women?
06:31.29brucehoult"Join a LUG group that welcomes women".  Yeah, that's what *all* the women go to those things for
06:31.40Renzeow!
06:31.46brucehoultto get picked up by dozens of loser geeks
06:31.47canllaithI will never walk into one of those little-boy clubs again.
06:32.49Borg^Queenbruce you're a geek too
06:32.57brucehoultyep
06:33.10brucehoultyou'll have to decide the other half for yourself
06:33.15canllaithHe's a hot geek though so that's ok.
06:33.16Renzeack!
06:33.24Borg^QueenYou're Mrs. Nesbet now and it's tea party time
06:33.54Borg^QueenSuffer you poor 3astard
06:33.54canllaithSo is Renze
06:34.03brucehoultcanllaith, a hot geek that you're sure has plenty of experience with prostitutes?
06:34.18canllaithbrucehoult: You do strike me as a man who only speaks what he knows from experience :)
06:34.24Borg^QueenHow many lumps Mrs Nesbet?
06:34.24Borg^Queengross
06:34.48Borg^Queenbrucehoult is a 11 yo kid
06:35.18canllaithNo, just a hot geek.
06:35.19brucehoulthey!  I'm now half canllaith's age, instead of twice it!
06:35.23canllaithLOL
06:35.26Borg^QueenLike that's going to brother me.
06:35.26Borg^Queenlol
06:35.30canllaithI thought you weren't twice my age ;)
06:35.36canllaithThose extra few months count!!!
06:36.07Borg^QueenDie weasel
06:36.23canllaithActually we seem to be attracting dead sexy geeks in here
06:36.24RenzeBorg^Queen: you're going to smite oleg? :)
06:36.28canllaithslayerbob, Renze, brucehoult ..........
06:36.44canllaithYeah, that's about it :)
06:36.46Borg^Queenlol
06:36.52canllaithAnd borgy of course.
06:36.57Borg^QueenOleg_: seek out a person, not a body.
06:37.05brucehoultI was twice your age in approx June 2002
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06:37.10canllaithbrucehoult: Yes :)
06:37.11Borg^QueenHey I'm sexy, and built for sin.
06:37.17Borg^QueenAnd I'm upgradable
06:37.22canllaithJust before I turned 20, eh?
06:37.30brucehoultyeah
06:37.33canllaith:)
06:37.37brucehoult3 months before
06:37.38canllaithIt's ok though
06:37.38Borg^Queen20? Cough!
06:37.41canllaithcause you're younger than my mother.
06:37.49canllaithSo that's all that counts ;)
06:38.07canllaithBorg^Queen: Yes?
06:38.38Borg^QueenNothing, just clearing my audio output port
06:38.42canllaith:p
06:39.30Oleg_I visited the #sex channel
06:39.56Oleg_<PROTECTED>
06:40.09brucehoultwhat was your offer, exactly?
06:40.43Borg^Queeno0
06:41.05canllaithhahaha whoops
06:41.25canllaithwhy did that not bomb........
06:41.44Oleg_it would be inapproprite to discuss it here
06:41.47canllaithahhh of course
06:41.50canllaithI do have dylan and I don't have gc
06:43.34Oleg_I want alcohol
06:43.38Oleg_I need alcohol
06:44.16Borg^QueenDon't bother with alcohol
06:45.55Oleg_I hope I won't be scared to go to a prostitute
06:47.38Sizaintok, so.. the make menuconfig says that for the HID input layer support you also need to select Input Core support in input device support but its not there! :(
06:48.12Renzehave we become #general_linux_help again? :)
06:48.46Oleg_slayerbob: because people here are kind to losers
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06:49.48Oleg_slayerbob: please don't ask anyone to ban me
06:50.08SizaintRenze: Yes, :)
06:50.22SizaintRenze: sorry, but #gentoo is so crowded
06:50.24Sizaint:|
06:50.45slayerboblol
06:50.46Oleg_Sizaint: I configured my kernel to use /dev/input/mice
06:50.48Borg^QueenOleg_: calm down.
06:50.57Oleg_Borg^Queen: ok
06:51.02SizaintOleg_: how?
06:51.41Oleg_Sizaint: Let me check in my config
06:52.06Oleg_in what directory usually a config is?
06:52.13Sizaintwell
06:52.20Sizaintwhere ever u installed it
06:52.31Sizaint"the kernel source"
06:52.34Oleg_ok, let me check
06:52.42RenzeSizaint: go back the first menu in menuconfig and go to Input Core Support
06:52.47canllaith<PROTECTED>
06:52.52canllaithThat's a good place to start looking
06:54.08Oleg_canllaith: wait. I had to save a config file after finishing with make menuconfig
06:54.22canllaiththat is where it is
06:54.35canllaith<PROTECTED>
06:55.10Oleg_Sizaint: it's very easy to set up your USB mouse in kernel
06:55.23canllaithmine end up illustrating tutorials
06:55.27canllaithso they are all over the web :P
06:55.42Borg^QueenRenze: good Renze
06:55.45Oleg_canllaith: I didn't save the config file
06:55.57SizaintOleg_: well mine works but it has problems.. http://sizaint.afraid.org:8088/text/2.6.9-mouse
06:56.13Sizaint^ that has my mouse problems and stuff
06:57.40Oleg_Sizaint: my mouse is optical; it doesn't have a wheel
06:57.43RenzeSizaint: in case you weren't paying attention before: go back the first menu in menuconfig and go to Input Core Support
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06:57.55Oleg_Sizaint: yeah, listen to Renze
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06:58.02brucehoultcanllaith: real women don't bak up their .config files...
06:58.12illogicalwho dares summon me?
06:58.12SizaintRenze: i am there, there is no option for what im looking for
06:58.13brucehoult... they just have them mirrored all over the web
06:58.14chin1how do i get the trashcan off my desktop ?
06:58.22RenzeSizaint: you're at the FIRST menu?
06:58.22canllaithbrucehoult: I don't back them up baby. I inflict them on helpless newbies in the form of 'tutorials'
06:58.31canllaithheh gmta
06:58.37canllaithI am so glad
06:58.42canllaithI was running rpmbuild in screen
06:58.46canllaithcause otherwise I would have cried.
06:58.49SizaintRenze: no im in the..
06:59.25RenzeSizaint: you need to be in the Main Menu to get to Input Core Support
06:59.36Sizaintthere is no input core support, :|
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07:00.15Sizaintim using menuconfig
07:00.16RenzeSizaint: what line is highlighted right now?
07:00.20RenzeSizaint: so am I
07:00.30SizaintCode Maturity Level options -->
07:00.51RenzeSizaint: go down 21 lines or so
07:01.01Borg^QueenWhagt are you doing canllaith ?
07:01.12Borg^Queenrebuilding a src?
07:01.14Sizaint... 21 lines?
07:01.18canllaithBorg^Queen: No, writing a spec
07:01.24Sizaintu must be using something else
07:01.25Borg^QueenOh, have fund
07:01.28Borg^Queenfun too
07:01.29RenzeSizaint: press the down arrow 21 times
07:01.32canllaithfund would be nice
07:01.35canllaithI'll have to settle for fun though
07:01.42canllaithand perhaps sexual favours
07:01.47SizaintRenze: there is only 17 lines..
07:01.52Borg^Queenhope springs eternal
07:02.17RenzeSizaint: name them
07:02.30Sizaintcan i pm u it?
07:02.35Renzesure
07:02.44Oleg_Input Device Support is in Device Drivers
07:02.57Oleg_maybe Renze uses 2.4.x kernel?
07:03.14Oleg_Sizaint: do you have Device Drivers option?
07:03.21SizaintOleg_: yea
07:03.29Oleg_Sizaint: so go there
07:03.48Oleg_Sizaint: there you will see Input Device Support
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07:04.13Sizaintright. which is where i was 5 mins ago..
07:04.22Sizaintbut the thing im looking for is core support
07:04.39Oleg_oh
07:04.46Sizaintwhich should be in device support
07:05.34Oleg_what about USB support?
07:05.38SizaintOleg_: in this device support section do u have anything listed under --- input device drivers?
07:05.41Oleg_did you go there?
07:05.53Borg^QueenGood day/night to all
07:05.57Sizaintya the thing that told me i need to enable core support here was in the usb section
07:06.24Sizaintnight Borg^Qeen
07:06.59SizaintSay Y here if you want to use a USB keyboard, mouse or joystick,                               ?
07:07.00Sizaint<PROTECTED>
07:07.00Sizaint<PROTECTED>
07:08.15Oleg_Sizaint: I see HID Input layer support enabled.
07:08.25Sizaintmine is too
07:08.37Sizaintbut the <?> for it says what i just pasted
07:08.49Sizaintand i cant find input core support any where
07:09.08Renzewhich you select under "Input device support", above.
07:09.25Sizaintya but its not in the input device spupport section! lol
07:09.38Renzewhat is there?
07:09.54Sizainta long list of stuff minus the thing im looking for
07:10.30Oleg_Mice and PS/2 Mouse is enabled in my input device section
07:10.53Sizaintya so is mine Oleg_
07:10.57canllaithRenze: It's quite snappy
07:11.08canllaithbut I had problems with my existing udev rules and you'll need to use a patched nvidia driver
07:11.14canllaith(which you can download from me)
07:11.30Sizainta patched nvidia driver?
07:11.45Renzecanllaith: I'm concerned about the problems with cdwriters
07:11.45canllaithYeah the official nvidia driver wont build against 2.6.9
07:11.57canllaithRenze: Those I can't speak for I'm afraid I never use mine.
07:12.02Sizainto. the one in portage does
07:12.14canllaithNot everyone uses portage :)
07:12.41canllaithIt's pathetically trivial to locate a patched driver that does work, or indeed patch it youserlf
07:12.53canllaithalthough the libtool archive also needed some slight editing but ... never mind.
07:13.06Oleg_Sizaint: and you created /dev/input/mice, right?
07:13.31Oleg_canllaith: I hope Phil won't ban me
07:13.37Oleg_canllaith: I am scared!
07:14.07SizaintOleg_: what do you mean by that?
07:14.25Oleg_Sizaint: mknod /dev/input/mice?
07:14.47Oleg_Sizaint: do you have /input/mice in your /dev directory?
07:14.59SizaintOleg_: ya
07:15.11Sizaintim on my 2.6.1 kernel right now where my mouse works perfectly
07:16.01Oleg_Sizaint: don't you wanna copy your config from 2.6.1 to 2.6.9?
07:16.15SizaintOleg_: I tryed that, didnt work.
07:16.15Oleg_Sizaint: or it will mess with other options?
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07:16.30yahello
07:16.32SizaintI tryed using the makeoldconfig thing but.. yea didnt work
07:16.40yais is possible to change the icons that are in the system trayL
07:16.41ya?
07:17.22Sizainthey Oleg_ in Input device support do u have anything listed under: --- Input Device Drivers
07:18.15Oleg_Sizaint: yeah
07:18.22SizaintReally?
07:18.24SizaintI dont. hmm
07:18.34Sizaintwhats under it?
07:18.41canllaithHey wow!
07:18.44canllaithhttp://bryson.co.nz/~dessa/socool.jpg
07:18.51canllaithKopete has support for viewing msn messenger 'handwriting' now
07:18.55canllaithhow long has it done that?
07:19.41Sizaintwow u can handwrite with msn? lol cool
07:19.44Oleg_Sizaint: --- Keyboards                                                   │ │
07:19.45Oleg_<PROTECTED>
07:19.45Oleg_<PROTECTED>
07:19.45Oleg_<PROTECTED>
07:19.49canllaithheh yeah that's kinda cool
07:19.55Oleg_Suzaint: and etc.
07:20.04Oleg_Suzaint: don't you have that?
07:20.47SizaintOleg_: o yeah, mine has the keyboards section i ment anything in the --- input device drivers section
07:21.11Oleg_Sizaint: there shouldn't be anything there
07:21.20yacanllaith, how did you do that :>
07:21.26Sizaintok well im stumped
07:21.31canllaithI didn't, Wilf is the guy on the other end of the conversation
07:21.38yaah =)
07:21.38canllaithHe's using windows and msn messenger and he can send me 'handwriting'
07:21.44yahow cool
07:21.48Oleg_canllaith: did I say anything inappropriate today that may get me banned?
07:21.48canllaithextremely
07:22.15canllaithhahaha he's drawing penguins attacking a windows logo
07:23.11yaahaha
07:23.37Oleg_slayerbob: what did I say that may get me banned?
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07:24.41canllaithhttp://bryson.co.nz/~dessa/moredrawing.jpg
07:24.56Oleg_Sizaint: gpm -m /dev/input/mice -t ps2 works?
07:25.52Sizaintum
07:25.54Oleg_damn. I am so depressed now
07:26.02Oleg_I may get banned from here
07:26.04Sizaintdidnt seem to do anything?
07:26.13Sizaintroot@localhost siz # gpm -m /dev/input/mice -t ps2
07:26.13Sizaintroot@localhost siz #
07:27.05Oleg_Sizaint: your mouse doesn't get enabled by that command?
07:27.22SizaintMy mouse works
07:27.26Sizaintits just buggy
07:27.44Sizaintits already working, so how would it enable it?
07:28.35Oleg_Sizaint: it works in the console mode after you type that command?
07:28.52Sizaintconsole mode?
07:29.05Oleg_Sizaint: yeah, without loading X
07:29.12Sizaintwell i dunno
07:29.59Sizaintthen ill try it
07:30.05Oleg_Sizaint: ok
07:30.28Oleg_damn... I am such a loser...
07:30.43Sizaintlol y
07:30.58Oleg_canllaith: If Phil decides to ban me, beg him not to do that
07:31.03Oleg_canllaith: please
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07:31.14canllaithI don't think I'd find the energy to beg.
07:32.50Oleg_canllaith: all you gotta do is tell him once "please, don't ban him" and if he decides to ban me despite that, so be it
07:33.52Supreme-Beinghi
07:35.42canllaithYAY
07:36.13Wilf:F
07:36.14Wilf:D
07:36.19canllaithoi
07:36.21WilfYAY
07:36.21Wilf:P
07:36.26canllaithWhat are you doin in here trouble?:P
07:36.34Wilfrelieving bordem :P
07:36.36canllaithyou GNOME userer!
07:36.41brucehoultis it time for the sexual favours now, then?
07:36.48Wilfgnome? :o
07:36.48slayerbob:P
07:36.50slayerbobwilf!!!
07:36.50Oleg_you are a Gnome userer?
07:36.52Wilftry explorer :o
07:36.55Wilf:'(
07:37.01Wilfhi bob :P
07:37.04canllaithhehehe you poor dear
07:37.46canllaith:D ty
07:37.54slayerboblol
07:38.52canllaithdell is broken :(
07:39.05Oleg_damn... I am so depressed... I am a loser...
07:39.30slayerbobOleg_, that's nice
07:39.37slayerbobso what are you doing in here wilf ?
07:39.44Wilfdon't know bob :P
07:39.57Wilfwhat are you doing in here? :o
07:39.57slayerboblol
07:40.05slayerboboh well usually i troll in #physics
07:40.09canllaithslayerbob is being the resident troll since he's not using KDE
07:40.17canllaithxfce userer!
07:40.17slayerbobbut i kept hearing hysterical laughter from canllaith
07:40.32canllaithlol that was me giggling at wilf's psycho penguins
07:42.08marcusUOleg_: What's wrong?
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07:43.15Oleg_marcusU: I can't get girls and I am scared to have a prostitute
07:43.22Sizainto.0
07:43.31Oleg_marcusU: and prostitution is only legal in Nevada
07:43.32marcusUOleg_: You don't want a prosititute. I'm single and available!
07:43.37marcusUWhat state are you in?
07:43.50Oleg_marcusU: you are a gal?
07:43.58Oleg_marcusU: New York
07:44.09marcusUNo, but if I shave my goatee and put on a wig, maybe you would be interested?
07:44.23canllaithHe's really cute Oleg_
07:44.26canllaithYou should give it a go ;)
07:44.27Oleg_marcusU: Sorry, no
07:44.46marcusUAw. My parents want to put up a sizable dowry to get me married off!
07:44.57slayerbobLOL
07:45.06Oleg_People, I told you before that even though it's possible I may be bisexual, I will never have sex with a man
07:45.27Oleg_because it's very abnormal
07:45.30slayerbobOleg_, but it's marcusU - surely you can make an exception ?
07:45.55canllaithSeriously Oleg_ he *is* a hottie. If i was a guy I would.
07:45.58Oleg_slayerbob: that's a joke, right?
07:46.09marcusUWait, you might be bisexual but you don't want sex with a man? I missed something.
07:46.14slayerbobOleg_, why would i joke about such things ?
07:47.08marcusUSizaint: A watched compile never finishes.
07:47.39Oleg_I need alcohol
07:47.40Oleg_now
07:47.44Oleg_damn
07:48.35MrPingouinyawn.
07:48.37MrPingouinmorning
07:48.44Sizaintwell with the way things are going around here ill take my chances marcusU lol
07:49.06Wilfbob, make bobbles come here
07:49.10marcusUI really didn't mean to offend you or anything, Sizaint. I'm just playing around. It's very rare for me to be silly.
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07:49.26Sizaintlol im not offended, im just saying :)
07:49.40Sizainti dont think its possibul to offend me
07:49.46Sizaintover the net any ways ;)
07:50.01marcusUOh, I'm pretty good at offending people.
07:50.06MrPingouinis there a way to rename a lot of id tags in one time with juk ?
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07:53.20Oleg_my brain is in a degrading state...
07:53.28Oleg_or is it degradation state?
07:53.57Sizainti think its deprived
07:54.25Oleg_yeah, deprived of the pleasures that I need!
07:54.38slayerbobOleg_, well it is your own fault - marcusU offered already...
07:55.17Oleg_slayerbob: I am thinking
07:55.20SizaintOleg_: how old are ya?
07:55.24Oleg_22
07:55.38Sizaintsurly you know about masturbation by now? :p
07:55.50Oleg_Sizaint: yeah
07:56.14Sizaintk, well thats as far as im going with that. any ways........
07:56.14Sizaintlol
07:56.30slayerboblol
07:56.52DexterFRenze, well, how much closer than in a linux chat can one get to? ;)
07:58.06marcusUOleg_: Do you have a pic online?
07:58.07Oleg_slayerbob: ok, actually you have a point.
07:58.17Oleg_marcusU: yeah
07:58.29marcusUWhere? I wanna see.
07:59.01Oleg_http://images5.fotki.com/v71/photos/2/234431/878452/IMG_0561-vi.jpg
07:59.30marcusUhttp://home.houston.rr.com/mathpup/MarcusInLeatherShorts.jpg
07:59.38marcusUOleg_: You're a cutie!
07:59.52marcusUOleg_: But you're frowning as bad as I do.
07:59.53Oleg_If I am indeed bisexual, that means I will enjoy having sex with a man...
08:00.10DexterFwtf is going on here?
08:00.33marcusUWe're having sex. Sssh. Oleg_ is just starting to get in the mood.
08:01.27Oleg_I am totally confused
08:01.27SizaintmarcusU: Yikes
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08:04.13Oleg_you know, I just realized that I am straight
08:04.15Oleg_I am
08:04.18Oleg_honestly
08:04.38Oleg_I won't get satisfaction if I'll have sex with a man
08:04.50Oleg_I want a girl
08:05.01Oleg_a good looking and nice girl
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08:05.28canllaithsmeg
08:05.32ya=)
08:05.34WilfOMG
08:05.38WilfBASH IS DOWN
08:05.51Oleg_marcusU: by the way, are you straight, bisexual, or gay?
08:05.51canllaithYou will live
08:05.58marcusUGay
08:05.58Wilf:|
08:06.10Wilfgah >_<
08:06.28Wilfi hope they're adding lots of new quotes
08:06.37marcusUWhat quotes?
08:06.48Wilfbash is down for some reason :(
08:07.26Wilfhmmm it is http://bash.org
08:07.29Wilfthat's wierd
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08:08.24WilfHUH?
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08:08.32Wilfwe can't find "www.yahoo.com"
08:08.38Oleg_how I wish marcusU were a girl.
08:08.39Wilfwe suggest "www.yahoo.com"
08:08.45Sizaintlol
08:08.50Wilfmessenger 7 is screwing up my system :(
08:08.52canllaithGo smack IE around a bit
08:08.59Wilfok
08:09.07Oleg_I would be the happiest man here if a nice girl here offered herself to me
08:09.18Sizaintlmao
08:09.19Wilfyou can have my sister
08:09.25Sizainthaha^
08:09.25canllaithWilf: No.
08:09.26Wilfshe's annoyingf
08:09.31Wilf:(
08:09.32canllaithDon't even go there
08:09.37Oleg_Wilf: wow. show me her pic
08:09.42Wilfewww
08:09.46Wilfi like my camera unbroken
08:09.58Sizaintcanllaith = Wilf's sister?
08:10.02Wilf:|
08:10.05canllaithWilf wishes.
08:10.06marcusUOleg_: Make me your woman!
08:10.10canllaithI'm less annoying than he real sister.
08:10.19Sizaintlol
08:10.20Wilfat least i'd have someone to borrow hardware from :P
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08:10.25canllaithhahaha
08:10.31canllaithwho says I'd lend it to you? :)
08:10.32canllaith:P
08:10.36Wilfwell
08:10.43Wilfmoney then :P
08:10.46Renzecanllaith: you're not annoying :)
08:10.50canllaithI did something that was almost clever :D
08:10.57Oleg_what am I doing? I will be banned from here...
08:11.06Oleg_what the hell am I doing?
08:11.15marcusUOleg_: You can come to #qtsharp....
08:11.18marcusUOr #math
08:11.28Renzeor #slackware :)
08:11.51Oleg_but I may get banned from those channels also.
08:12.11Wilfor #linuxtalk
08:12.14Oleg_I've been banned a lot of times
08:12.35marcusUWhy are you hypothesizing about where you might be banned? That seems pointless.
08:12.44Oleg_even though I was usually allowed to go back soon
08:13.09marcusUIs there a point to this?
08:13.50Sizaintshort answer: no
08:13.56Oleg_no point if people will keep banning me
08:15.06Oleg_slayerbob, canllaith: do you feel sorry for me?
08:15.32marcusUOleg_: You're very annoying for someone who isn't clinically depressed or drunk.
08:15.35slayerbobnope - we just laugh at you
08:15.59marcusUI'm clinically depressed and sometimes drunk. That's my excuse.
08:16.06Wilfi'm me
08:16.10Wilfi need no excuse
08:16.13Wilfwait a second
08:16.16Wilfexcuse for what?
08:16.22canllaithand you're the cutest, most adorable Wilf ever.
08:16.24RenzeI'm... unique. 'nuff said :)
08:16.35WilfO:)
08:16.42Oleg_I am depressed
08:16.49Oleg_but I am not drunk
08:17.14Oleg_I wish I were drunk
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08:17.48MathieuKHello
08:17.53marcusUI'm drunk. So what?
08:18.15MathieuKwell, as long as you're not in my timezone.. it's all ok ;-)
08:18.28marcusUI'm in CST
08:18.49MathieuKI'm in CET, where it's 9:18am
08:19.15marcusUI think that these timezone abbreviations are ambiguous.
08:19.27Oleg_It's 3:19 a.m. in New York City where I live
08:19.35marcusUI'm in Houston.
08:19.49Oleg_Texas?
08:19.53marcusUYes.
08:20.09Oleg_wow, where Bush was a governor!
08:20.19MathieuKanyway, got here with a little question.. I'm trying to use Firefox as my default browser.. but now whenever I open an URL from -say- Thunderbird, the HTML file is now first downloaded through KIO and then the tmp file created from that is given to Firefox. How would I make KDE just spawn Firefox for dealing with urls? :/
08:21.08marcusUThe important thing seems to be removing Thunderbird and Firefox.
08:21.48MathieuKI've tried that
08:21.50Oleg_#include <qlabel.h>
08:21.50Oleg_#include <qapplication.h>
08:21.50Oleg_#include <iostream>
08:21.50Oleg_#include <string>
08:21.50Oleg_using namespace std;
08:21.50Oleg_int func (int &Kerry)
08:22.03MathieuKbut my brain wouldn't send the proper signals to my hand.
08:22.10Oleg_{
08:22.10Oleg_Kerry = 10;
08:22.10Oleg_}
08:22.11marcusUOh. I'm sorry.
08:22.23MathieuKSo, now I'm just looking to making it work instead.
08:22.35Oleg_class nigga
08:22.35Oleg_{
08:22.35Oleg_<PROTECTED>
08:22.35Oleg_<PROTECTED>
08:22.35Oleg_};
08:22.36Oleg_<PROTECTED>
08:22.38Oleg_{
08:22.40Oleg_cout << "Yo" << endl;
08:22.42Oleg_}
08:22.58marcusUUh, Oleg_ why are you flooding the channel with this stuff?
08:23.34Oleg_marcusU: I didn't flood. I waited until someone said something and pasted again
08:23.37RenzemarcusU: because, deep down inside, he really does want to get banned
08:23.45marcusUOkay.
08:23.53Oleg_int main(int weed, char String[])
08:23.53Oleg_{
08:23.53Oleg_
08:23.53Oleg_QLabel yo();
08:23.53Oleg_int x(float);
08:24.02marcusUI'm annoying, but I'm only annoying one very slow line at a time.
08:24.06MathieuKor, you could stop doing that
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08:24.22MathieuKjust a thought
08:24.40MathieuKmarcusU: so, any idea?
08:24.43Oleg_I don't wanna get banned. I don't know what I'm doing!
08:25.06marcusUI really don't know. I haven't tried using Firefox for my primary browser. I only use it occasionally.
08:25.13Oleg_nigga chill;
08:25.13Oleg_chill.tall_ass();
08:25.13Oleg_int Bush;
08:25.13Oleg_func(Bush);
08:25.13Oleg_cout << Bush << endl;
08:25.13Oleg_}
08:25.15MathieuKOleg_: then stop doing what you're doing! Retrieve straightjacket, call 911, put on straight jacket, wait for help.
08:25.15marcusUOleg_: Just smooch with me.
08:25.37marcusUMathieuK: I could get into Oleg_  in a straightjacket.
08:26.09MathieuKmarcusU: It'd be nice if that Qt Mozilla port would become available sometime, are you aware of any progress in that field?
08:26.16marcusUMathieuK: No.
08:26.38MathieuKaww :'(
08:26.39marcusUI don't much care for Mozilla. I don't know whether it's the Qt widgets or what.
08:26.58marcusUI just know that Firefox/Mozilla or whatever they call the beast this month looks horrid on my desktop.
08:27.03Wilfnote to all
08:27.06marcusUThe fonts are nasty, and the widgets are yucky.
08:27.11Wilfnever ever ever ever ever ever
08:27.16Wilfever ever ever ever
08:27.19Wilfuse messenger 7.
08:27.28marcusUmessenger?
08:27.31canllaithhoney we all using linux. That isn't likely to happen any time soon.
08:27.44Wilfgood.
08:27.48Wilfit's for your own good
08:27.52MathieuKWhat's wrong with messenger 7, enlighten us!
08:28.00marcusUI occasionnally use XP to test .NET
08:28.17WilfMathieu, creates system wide instability
08:28.21Wilfmakes ie not find pages
08:28.26Wilfmakes xchat not findservers
08:28.37Wilfi like that name :D
08:29.17Oleg_I am lost
08:29.24Oleg_totally confused
08:29.42Oleg_canllaith: are you here?
08:29.43MathieuK.. but.. why... ie? ... on a windows machine?
08:29.46canllaithNo
08:29.48MathieuKand you blame messenger?
08:29.54Wilfyes
08:29.56MathieuKwhat? I don't understand.. why would someone do such a thing
08:30.01MathieuK:P
08:30.02Wilfbecause it was working fine yesterday
08:30.04Wilfnow it is not
08:30.37Wilfbah
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08:30.44Wilfi'll go fetch my redhat cds
08:30.46MathieuKWilf: are you sure you're not drunk like marcusU and typing HTTP servers into Xchat and IRC servers into MSIE ?
08:30.46Oleg_wtf? somebody here uses Windows?
08:31.01WilfMathieuK, yup
08:31.03canllaithQuite a few people here use windows occasionally
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08:31.13geekitushi al
08:31.20MathieuKbut ehm... noone on the whole firefox bit then ?
08:31.20Wilfhi geekitus
08:31.20Sizainti use it for games
08:31.21MathieuK:|
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08:31.35RenzeMathieuK: I only use Firefox like once a month or so
08:31.41marcusUMathieuK: I'm more functional drunk than many people are sober. So there!
08:32.03MathieuKmarcusU: You're not even close to being drunk. You're not even making typing errors.
08:32.07MathieuKand I do that when I'm sober
08:32.08MathieuKso HA!
08:32.11MathieuKYou're faking it!
08:32.14marcusUMathieuK: I have had 14 oz of vodka in the past hour.
08:32.14Wilfwow look at that
08:32.17MathieuKyouuuuuuuuu woman!
08:32.23Wilfmessenger 6.2 and everything is fine once again
08:33.06marcusUMathieuK: I'm not female, but you can make me your woman, if you play your cards right.
08:33.11MathieuKrawr
08:33.25MathieuKI have 4 queens, I call your bluff.
08:33.28MathieuK8-)
08:33.53Oleg_A group of Palestinians unleashed deadly bursts of gunfire as Mahmoud Abbas arrived at a service for Yasir Arafat.
08:33.58marcusUI think I'm the only queen that I have. :-(
08:34.01Oleg_damn!
08:34.04marcusUI'm really hungry.
08:34.12Oleg_I don't want Abbas to be killed
08:34.21Oleg_he's probably a moderate
08:34.30marcusUAbbas?
08:34.44Oleg_he will help Palestinians to create their state.
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08:34.58Oleg_marcusU: yeah, he's the chairman of PLO
08:35.01marcusUOh, that region is hopeless.
08:35.02FlendorMorning! :)
08:35.45Oleg_Flendor: why don't Palestinians have their own state?
08:36.04FlendorBecause Israel took it from them?
08:36.11marcusUI vote for a colony on Antarctica.
08:36.47Oleg_Flendor: but why did Israel take it from them?
08:37.42FlendorBecause the Western countries wanted a puppet state in the middle east?
08:37.44marcusUOleg_: The world felt sorry for the Jews after putative externmination in WW II. So they made Israel.
08:39.14FlendorHeh, seems like we have different opinions here :)
08:39.19Oleg_Flendor: you mean Israel is the puppet state?
08:39.43marcusUI just want to know why we don't have cheap oil from Iraq like we're supposed to.
08:39.47FlendorI believe it is. Come ON, no-one forms a state in the 20th century because they feel "sorry" for the people that will live there..
08:40.00marcusUFlendor: Yeah, they do.
08:40.17marcusUThe rest of the countries really felt sorry for killing off all the jews in WWII.
08:40.17hondjePeople watch reality shows, they're capable of anything....
08:41.06FlendorWell, then why didn't USA give them a State in America or anything :P
08:41.18marcusUFlendor: Cuz we're not stupid.
08:41.30FlendorAh, but the Palestinians are stupid, right?
08:41.30marcusUThey can have Antartica.
08:41.34marcusUYes, they are.
08:41.42FlendorOr perhaps just too weak to defend themselves?
08:41.46Oleg_Palestinians are stupid?
08:41.54marcusUYes, the Palestinians are stupid.
08:42.05Flendormarcus - Are you from Israel?
08:42.10marcusUNope.
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08:43.19FlendorWEll let'S just agree to disagree :)
08:43.20Oleg_I feel that Israel was unfair to the Palestinians. The Palestinians never had their own state@
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08:43.37Flendor...
08:43.53FlendorWell, nice timing..I have to go too, nature calls :P
08:44.06Oleg_:)
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08:46.50Oleg_They could have their state in 1948
08:47.15Oleg_Didn't UN divide that place in two halves?
08:47.36Oleg_One half was for Palestine, the other was for Israel
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08:48.17Oleg_so why the hell didn't the Palestinians agree to accept the U.N. resolution?
08:48.29Oleg_or maybe I'm wrong?
08:48.38Oleg_who can help me on that?
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08:49.03hondjeI don't know why, it was a bad idea though
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08:49.12hondjeIt was two halfs, then they got beat in a war
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08:49.24cybernouthi all
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08:50.08Oleg_I'll be back.
08:50.11cybernouti have festival software installed with the speaker3 plugin
08:50.21Oleg_I need to visit the #israel channel.
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08:50.34cybernoutnow it does not speak, so i need to connect
08:50.52cybernoutthe icon in konqueror with the festival output
08:50.57cybernouthow can i do this?
08:51.05cybernoutany suggestions?
08:51.31cybernoutam i on the developers channel here by the way?
08:52.47Renzecybernout: I think that's #kde-devel or something
08:53.02cybernouthmm, okey
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08:54.57FlendorBack.
08:57.03srednacybernout: You mean you need konqueror to start it?
08:57.24cybernoutwell, i can do it on command line
08:58.06cybernoutbut then it fails what it meant for, text to speech, speaking your webpage
08:59.00cybernoutKDE 3.2 konqueror - plugin : speaker3- text to speech software : festival trouble - no sound..
08:59.09Renzecybernout: actually, festival is just for text to speech... you'll need something else between the web browser and festival to strip out all the HTML tags and stuff
08:59.10canllaithhondje: I'm watching slayerbob adding about 20 lines to @badcommands on his bot
08:59.12canllaithWhat did you DO to him?
08:59.25slayerbobLOL
08:59.28slayerbobit was not hondje
08:59.36hondjeI got out of bed to see the kid finding ways to be naughty
08:59.46hondjeFigured I'd help find the not-so-obvious ways
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09:00.03canllaithheh
09:00.05cybernoutRenze, i know, i installed the speaker3 plugin wich does just that..
09:00.08hondjeSince I'll probably run my own copy soon
09:00.15cybernoutbut it fails somehow..
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09:00.27Renzecybernout: which I am completely unfamiliar with
09:00.32FlendorGood morning canllaith 7 \o
09:00.39canllaithgday Flendor :)
09:00.45cybernoutyeah , i understand, np
09:01.01canllaith:D
09:01.32Wilf>-|o ~~~~~  <<<< heat lines...steam of burningness
09:01.47Flendor:/
09:01.51canllaithBad wilf.
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09:01.55Renzeback to the ascii art again, eh?
09:01.57canllaithVery bad wilf.
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09:02.37matasHi guys, anyone could help me with k3b?  I cannot burn as user, but can as root...
09:02.52canllaithHave you recently upgraded your kernel? :)
09:03.35Renzematas: have you run k3bsetup2 and let it change the permissions?
09:03.49canllaithThat was going to be my next question if he isn't using the evil kernel of doom :)
09:03.59Renzeyou mean 2.6.9? :)
09:04.12Flendor:0 What's wrong with my kernel?
09:04.13cybernoutgot kmouth working, thats something...
09:04.19canllaithYeah the one that works fine for me but everyone else hates :P
09:04.25matasRenze, I think I have.  The permissions look allright to me
09:04.30cybernouthee my computer talks!...LOL
09:04.41RenzeFlendor: because of some changes in the subsystem, cdwriters no longer write, apparently
09:04.54canllaithmatas: Just humour us and run Settings->K3B Setup
09:04.56canllaith:P
09:05.04FlendorOh, damn..
09:05.20matascanllaith, I have done it a few minutes ago (10th time)
09:05.32canllaithmatas: What does uname -r tell you?
09:05.51matascanllaith, 2.6.8.1-01
09:05.54matasthis is gentoo
09:06.09canllaithDid your problems occur after updating your kernel
09:06.12canllaithOr has it always done this?
09:06.43matascanllaith, huh, good question.  I am not sure
09:06.51matasIt might easily
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09:07.23canllaithJust as a side note I find it very very scary the amount of peple who use automagical updatey systems, who end up not knowing these things:P
09:07.48matascanllaith, why?
09:07.54canllaithWell if your permissions are correct, given the evilness of the late 2.6 kernels
09:07.58canllaithI suspect this is a kernel problem
09:08.06canllaithand you'd be best askin someone in #gentoo if they have solved it.
09:08.15canllaithmatas: Because I like to know what my kernel is doing :)
09:08.25hondjethat whole 'let's do dev with stable' thing was a bad idea
09:08.29matascanllaith, I use a huge number of programs, do not check each program after a kernel update
09:08.40canllaithSo do we all
09:08.59canllaithConsidering how everyone has been buzzing about cd writers and the latest 2.6 kernels though....
09:09.07canllaithat any rate, #gentoo might be able to help out.
09:09.16matascanllaith, this being a kernel problem sounds a good clue anyway, thanks
09:09.17hondjeor at least flame you for asking a question
09:09.18hondje:)
09:09.23canllaithheh
09:10.50matascanllaith, for the record, I do go to #gentoo often enough.  It just happens that so far kde has been much more helpful in kde-related questions
09:11.11canllaithThat's nice :)
09:14.07cybernoutthnx , bye bye
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09:14.38camilomalekhola
09:14.41camilomalekuna pregunta
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09:14.54camilomalekcomo cambio mi tema de escritorio
09:15.04canllaithmatas: It looks like k3b.org has some information as well on their news page.
09:15.08Renzeno hablar Espanol
09:15.20canllaith'Do not use Kernel 2.6.8' in big letters for a start heh
09:15.32hondjecamilomalek: control center
09:16.11camilomalekperdon .. pero quiero cargar uno que baje de freshmeat ... como lo levanto
09:16.26Renzeno speeko dago
09:16.42canllaithYeah that's really culturally sensitive
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09:21.12hondjecamilomalek: Creo que la majoridad de los distros tiene un canal en espanol; generalmente no hablamos espanol aqui
09:22.07hondjepor ejemplo, #fedora-es
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09:24.39canllaithw00t!
09:24.41canllaithtell me how you did it mate
09:24.47Sizaintno friggin clue!
09:24.47Sizaintlol
09:24.49hondjeIf that kernel requires work for a mouse to work, I'm never touching it :)
09:25.02canllaithhondje: (works flawlessly here hey:P)
09:25.15Sizaintwhat i did was, got my 2.6.1 config from /proc/config.gz
09:25.18Sizaintthen
09:25.24Sizaintcopied it to my kernel source
09:25.30Sizaintdid make oldconfig
09:25.40Sizaintthen make menuconfig (to tweak it some)
09:25.47Sizaintand it just works..
09:26.04Sizainttomarrow i will diff the configs and take a good good long look
09:26.46Sizainti think what may have done it was, i had usb 2.0 and 1.3 or w/e enabled and my old kernel just had 2.0 usb enabled even tho my usb ports are not 2.0
09:27.28RenzeSizaint: enabled EHCI, but not UHCI?
09:27.36Sizaintyeah
09:27.50Renzethat would explain it :)
09:28.45Sizaintwell then why didnt u tell me 2 days ago? :p
09:29.05Renzebecause that's the last place I'd think of looking :)
09:29.12Sizaintlol
09:29.20Sizaintit was the last place for me too
09:29.21Sizaint:(
09:29.25Renzenothing like 20-20 hindsight :)
09:29.47Sizaint"its always the last place you look"
09:29.52Sizainthe eh
09:30.22Sizainti got me a pack of those bubble gub cigerets
09:30.35Sizaintgum*
09:31.37Renzealthough I suspect it will be rare :)
09:31.58SizaintI wana test it to make sure, I *Think* thats what did it, could be some other thing in my old config
09:35.08Sizaintbut at the same time im so not wanting to recompile it
09:35.09Sizainthehe
09:39.53Wilfhttp://www.crapville.com/funnypics/word.asp
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09:41.12RenzeWilf: shouldn't that be Werd? :)
09:41.21Wilfwho knows, yo.
09:41.22Wilf:P
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09:42.10Sizaint'write letters n shit yo;
09:42.45RockManhi
09:42.50SizaintRockMan: hi
09:44.12Wilfanyone good with photoshop?
09:44.23Wilfanyone know how to make smoke?
09:44.30Sizainthmm well
09:44.58Sizaintu could make a layer, paint with gray add some blur effects and change the opacity
09:45.18Sizaintdunno if it will look any good, but you could.
09:45.18Sizaintlol
09:45.31Wilfhmmmm
09:45.43markeyheh
09:45.48markeysomehow I doubt it
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09:46.19Sizaintthere are some plugins and stuff with smoke effects
09:47.35markeyclose windows, smoke a pack of marlboros, make photo, overlay it
09:47.56markeyor smoke Sizaint's gum cigarettes
09:49.06Wilfi'm not smoking :P
09:49.15Wilfi'm making other people look like they are smoking :)
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09:49.27Sizaintlol
09:49.30Sizaintblack mail!
09:49.34markeyhehe
09:51.16Wilfnow to draw a cigarette
09:51.18Wilfhmmmm
09:51.34SizaintWilf: why not find a pic of one and cut it and paste
09:51.49Wilfi am :P
09:51.59Sizaintoh, i see
09:52.12Wilfas soon as ie wants to work
09:52.21Sizaintuse maxthon
09:52.22Wilfdum de dum
09:52.25Sizaintgreat browser
09:52.34Wilfwhenever you feel like it...
09:52.36Wilfanytime now...
09:52.42Wilfstupid browser
09:52.56Sizaintmaxthon  was MyIE2 but ya now maxthon
09:53.10Sizainti wub it on windows
09:53.13Sizaintfirefox is good 2
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10:02.47Wilfall done
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10:10.03can|laptopoooooh
10:10.07can|laptopyou're a sweetie :)
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10:10.26Oleg_hi
10:10.30brucehoultyou looked like you needed it
10:12.46can|laptopI have a really excellent lovely chair but it's still hard to sit there for 11 hours crap :|
10:13.01can|laptopI had no idea it was that long till I looked at the clock
10:14.03brucehoultwell that's pretty darn good to survive that long
10:14.20can|laptopNormally I wouldn't. That's quite surprising.
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10:22.51Sizaintlol crap
10:22.53Sizaintthats not the fix
10:22.55Sizaintmusta been something else.
10:22.56Sizainthmm
10:22.59Sizaint*shrug*
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10:33.59slayerbobawww we lost wilf :(
10:34.16can|laptophis mum prolly sent him to bed
10:34.24slayerbobLOL
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10:36.43slayerbobwb wilf
10:36.48Selektaty uleh
10:37.13Selektai mean bob :P
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10:37.26can|laptopwb Wilf:P
10:37.32Selektahi mine :P
10:37.36Selektaminx* :\
10:37.47slayerboblol
10:37.51can|laptopheh
10:39.01Selektawww.google.com
10:39.13Selektasorry it's the only way to make ie work
10:39.28slayerbobLOL
10:40.06Selektaok
10:41.01Selektaand i can't open my pictures
10:41.08Selektait makes explorer crash
10:41.39Selektaand i can't make it un read only
10:43.19can|laptopbet you are missing your redhat
10:43.51Selektaalways
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10:59.26SilentBobsuperkaramba src.rpm?
10:59.30SilentBobOr just the spec file.
10:59.33SilentBobfor 34
10:59.54Wilfboth
10:59.58Wilfjust in case
11:00.02SilentBobWilf, where?
11:00.10Wilfin the place
11:00.12SilentBobWilf, I'm looking for either.
11:00.16Wilfyou know, with the stuff
11:00.20SilentBobCan't seem to find one for 0.34
11:00.23can|laptopHeya PhilRod ! :)
11:00.27SilentBobOnly older crap.
11:00.28Wilfwell it's right there!
11:00.38SilentBobgee Wilf thanks
11:00.40Wilfin the place with the stuff!
11:00.41SilentBobYour help is infinite.
11:00.47Wilfi try :)
11:00.52SilentBobdamn Aussies.
11:01.50Wilf:D
11:01.59Wilfi have lots of rpms
11:02.05Wilfin my vh
11:02.08Wilf5.0
11:02.08Wilf.
11:04.25PhilRodhiya can|laptop
11:08.20can|laptop:)
11:08.59PhilRodanyone else tried building cvs head recently? fails here in kdelibs/.../kextsock.cpp
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11:16.20can|laptopnot recently no
11:16.27can|laptopI think it's been 4 days now
11:16.53srednaPhilRod: There are some threads in kde-core-devel ml about the "--as-needed problem" which seems to cause a lot of breakage
11:17.18srednaPhilRod: Maybe you have been struck by that?
11:18.48PhilRodsredna: thanks - I'll check
11:18.56sredna:)
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11:20.40FlendorHiya
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11:21.54jblackHi all.
11:22.05jblackright now, my screensaver locks my screen, which is good.
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11:22.41jblackbut is there a setting I can toggle somewhere so that somebody else can log in, without screwing up my current session?
11:26.01PhilRodgah, I thought I added something about that to the faq, but I can't find it
11:26.21srednajblack: You mean adding a new session on a different display?
11:27.05jblackon the same display. Kind of like windows (pardon) does if the session idles out.
11:27.09PhilRodah, it's in the user guide
11:27.12PhilRodapt: ug
11:27.13apt[ug] http://people.fruitsalad.org/phil/kde/userguide-tng
11:27.22PhilRodjblack: take a look at the user guide ^^^
11:27.28PhilRodlet me find the right section
11:27.31jblackOh, I'm sorry. I didn't even think to check the docs.
11:28.34jblackI bet my answer is right here in http://people.fruitsalad.org/phil/kde/userguide-tng/switching-sessions.html
11:29.15PhilRodyup :-)
11:29.24PhilRodwas just about to point you to that section :-)
11:29.45FlendorHello Phil
11:29.46PhilRodthe user guide is new, and isn't in stable versions of KDE, so you can be forgiven for not checking it :-)
11:29.49PhilRodhiya Flendor
11:30.33jblackHmmm. My start menu says kde 3.3, but I don't see the switch user menu
11:31.07jblackahhh. system->runasotheruser
11:31.17jblackno, that isn't it
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11:31.33PhilRodI think you need to set up kdm correctly for it
11:31.40PhilRodI'm not familiar with it, I'm afraid
11:31.54Renzeyay, got zsh as my default shell again :)
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11:32.02PhilRodbut if you get it set up, and need some steps not described in the docs, please tell kde-doc-english@kde.org
11:32.16SilentBobAnyone in here using superkaramba?
11:32.29FlendorI use it when I'M under Linux
11:32.39SilentBobFlendor, Are you under linux now?
11:33.25FlendorNope :/
11:33.28SilentBobCan someon tar -c ~/.superkaramba -f ~/bob.tar
11:33.39SilentBobAnd /dcc send SilentBob ~/bob.tar
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12:11.27DevilDudei seep to be running kernel 2.4.27 with oss, is it worth while to install alsa?
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12:25.30VensonHey all..anyone want to work with me on a kgnome project? Or gkde?
12:30.52Castr0what would those be?
12:31.33Vensongnome written in Qt and Kde written in Gtk...just kidding, really =)
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12:33.11DexterFcan konq talk to ldap servs?
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12:40.46psylocibehello
12:40.53psylocibei got a problem with kmenuedit
12:41.10psylocibeit seems to work
12:41.24psylocibebut it doesn't saves the changes I made
12:41.34psylocibe:(((
12:42.11psylocibewhat is the problem?
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12:49.57maitschahallo. does somebody know where are all these fine icons are located???
12:50.29srednapsylocibe: Do you activate the save action?
12:50.31DexterFlocatedb ;)
12:50.41srednamaitscha: Which?
12:51.20psylocibesredna: yes
12:51.29psylocibebut it doesn't save the changes
12:51.54srednapsylocibe: Which OS/distro are you using?
12:51.56maitschasredna: the icons which i can use for a link, for example.
12:52.10srednamaitscha: KDEDIR/share/icons
12:52.32maitschathx.
12:52.42psylocibeFC2, kernel 2.6, on i686
12:52.43srednamaitscha: More detailed: KDEDIR/share/icons/YOURTHEME
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12:53.35srednamaitscha: And KDEDIR is either the global KDE install directory, or ~/.kde/, the latter if you installed a icon theme as a user
12:55.24psylocibesredna: any idea?
12:56.36srednapsylocibe: What KDE version?
12:56.44psylocibe3.2
12:56.55psylocibei also tried to delete /var/tmp/kdecache-user and the run kbuildsycoca
12:57.00psylocibebut... nothing
12:57.21psylocibei installed kde on my machine *yesterday*.
12:57.55srednapsylocibe: It's possible that fedora altered the kde menu in a way not compatible with kmenuedit
12:58.16srednapsylocibe: But I dont' know
12:58.23psylocibe:(
12:58.24psylocibedamn
12:58.28psylocibethank you
12:58.29srednapsylocibe: I suggest you ask fellow fd2 users
12:58.29psylocibebye
12:59.33can|laptopapt: ug
12:59.37aptfrom memory, ug is http://people.fruitsalad.org/phil/kde/userguide-tng
12:59.40can|laptopty lovely bot you
13:00.51srednaLol, hi can|laptop
13:02.36can|laptopHeya sredna :D
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13:23.04markeyiblechbot: !help
13:23.09markeyhmm
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13:24.02srednaHi markey -- is bots an obsession of yours?
13:24.16markeyoh yeah I love bots
13:24.21sredna:)
13:24.24markey:D
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13:35.33DexterFhow do i make konqueror sync bookmarks with an ldap server?
13:45.37srednaDexterF: I think you'd have the use a script for that, the bookmarks.xml file is in a hardcoded location
13:46.26srednaDexterF: So you'd have to make a script replace or sync it and run that periodically, i.e.  frou cron
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13:50.00illogic-alhelp
13:50.24illogic-alaidement moi!
13:55.11illogic-allol
13:55.52illogic-alI'm trying to get my kde programs to work since I built them with arts support initially
13:56.00illogic-aland just rebuilt them without it
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13:57.06PhilRodand what happens?
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13:57.42illogic-alin related news, I'm now the proud user of the improving kde patchset
13:59.16PhilRodwhat patchset is that? I haven't heard of it
14:01.35je4dPhilRod: look at highest rated on appsy or looksy
14:01.41illogic-alPhilRod: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=16962
14:01.49je4dor that ;)
14:05.13PhilRodhrm, what's the rubberband effect he talks about? just eyecandy?
14:05.35illogic-alPhilRod: yup
14:06.02illogic-althat's the only reason I got it too :-)
14:06.15illogic-alif you've ever used nautilus, it provides a similar effect whenever you highlight icons
14:06.33illogic-alif not, see screenies it's in the second shot
14:07.42PhilRodoic, it's the selection box that you drag
14:07.48illogic-alyah
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