| 00:00.28 | sredna | Hm, what was it that qustars was again? |
| 00:00.36 | sredna | Screensaver? |
| 00:00.50 | grepper | Borg^Queen, there's a qstars ? |
| 00:01.02 | grepper | oh, I was hoping it was a qt port of kstars |
| 00:01.05 | Renze | it's a rather cheesy screensaver |
| 00:01.30 | grepper | if kstars had a qt port I'd be all over it |
| 00:01.32 | sredna | grepper: Do you want non-kde apps ?! |
| 00:01.51 | grepper | sredna, I'm building a ubuntu box for my nephew, so yeah |
| 00:02.07 | sredna | grepper: Why ubunto? |
| 00:02.19 | grepper | sredna, clean, simple |
| 00:02.29 | sredna | grepper: As in not using KDE? |
| 00:02.30 | grepper | nice menus and n00b friendly |
| 00:02.38 | grepper | eh ? |
| 00:02.49 | sredna | I just ask |
| 00:02.55 | grepper | well, debian's menus would be too confusing to a 9 and 7 yr old |
| 00:03.05 | grepper | and ubuntu is only gnome atm |
| 00:03.11 | sredna | grepper: Mepis? |
| 00:03.14 | Borg^Queen | grepper I had no idea you were so young |
| 00:03.19 | grepper | granted I could customize them |
| 00:03.34 | sredna | Rofl@ Borg^Queen |
| 00:03.44 | Borg^Queen | lol |
| 00:04.20 | sredna | Burning |
| 00:04.39 | grepper | that is a thought |
| 00:04.49 | grepper | but its not debian based is it ? |
| 00:04.50 | StevenR | whats mepis? |
| 00:04.51 | Borg^Queen | I can always use an extra cane |
| 00:05.02 | sredna | I wonder what reedemans lovesources gentoo live cd is like |
| 00:05.10 | sredna | I'tm pretty sure it has kde |
| 00:05.19 | sredna | Renze: Drinking again? |
| 00:05.22 | sredna | :o |
| 00:05.28 | Renze | sredna: no, just a headache |
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| 00:05.42 | Renze | I'm all out of alcohol :( |
| 00:05.43 | sredna | Hm, where does all those unwanted letters come from when I type??? |
| 00:05.59 | sredna | }:=] |
| 00:06.28 | Borg^Queen | Nice teeth |
| 00:06.29 | sredna | YOPIIIII, umbrella did it!!! |
| 00:06.33 | mobtek | Borg^Queen: wassup about kstars? |
| 00:06.39 | Renze | Borg^Queen: if you whacked hard enough, it would solve all my problems :) |
| 00:06.49 | mobtek | Borg^Queen: nah I use kstars |
| 00:06.52 | mobtek | there is a qstars? |
| 00:06.54 | mobtek | :P |
| 00:07.00 | Borg^Queen | qstars |
| 00:07.03 | Borg^Queen | Yep |
| 00:07.04 | mobtek | brbski phoneage :) |
| 00:07.11 | mobtek | nah sorry dude |
| 00:07.14 | sredna | "what happens if you die from it, bot?" "Well, if you die nothing more happens." |
| 00:07.18 | Borg^Queen | dudette |
| 00:07.27 | grepper | heh, how rumors get started |
| 00:07.55 | grepper | mephis is coming out with a qt port of kstars ? |
| 00:08.03 | sredna | Because of the lack of live video in irc? |
| 00:08.14 | sredna | Rofl |
| 00:08.17 | grepper | heh |
| 00:08.30 | Borg^Queen | `I"m sooo lost |
| 00:08.54 | sredna | My brother just installed mepis on a box for his friends girlfriend, in disqqust over fedora 3 |
| 00:09.01 | sredna | He said it works well |
| 00:09.28 | sredna | Allthough it comes with kde 3.2.3 which he thought was a bit old-fashioned |
| 00:09.31 | Borg^Queen | Mepis is a new distro |
| 00:09.42 | sredna | Yay, new kdesdk .-) |
| 00:10.04 | sredna | Whatnow? |
| 00:10.24 | Borg^Queen | New what? |
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| 00:10.40 | sredna | Kbuild kdeartwork |
| 00:10.41 | sredna | Oops |
| 00:11.03 | aseigo | Ballfire: yeah, known issue |
| 00:11.05 | sredna | Borg^Queen: Cervisia, umbrella, a huge bunch of scripts and utilities |
| 00:11.25 | mobtek | Borg^Queen: :P |
| 00:11.25 | aseigo | Ballfire: it's been like that for a while... January is the month i clean up all those layouting bugs =) |
| 00:11.39 | Borg^Queen | mobtek: ? |
| 00:11.40 | sredna | aseigo: Are you still in charge of kscd? |
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| 00:11.48 | aseigo | sredna: sure |
| 00:11.51 | aseigo | sredna: why? |
| 00:11.57 | aseigo | wait. if it's a bug. no. ;-P |
| 00:12.21 | sredna | aseigo: I had it crashing a few time when attempting to fetch cddb info, which it fails to do automatically |
| 00:12.22 | Alethes | howdy aseigo |
| 00:12.26 | sredna | aseigo: And it does not autostart |
| 00:12.41 | sredna | When I put in a cd |
| 00:12.48 | aseigo | sredna: cddb isn't kscd. it uses libkcddb, just so you know =) |
| 00:12.55 | sredna | aseigo: I do know |
| 00:12.57 | aseigo | sredna: and there were some recent changes to that... |
| 00:13.16 | aseigo | sredna: i haven't had a chance to thoroughly check those changes out, but yeah, i've heard a couple of crash reports around that |
| 00:13.17 | sredna | aseigo: And I wondered if the issue andrs posted on kde-core-devel has to do with it |
| 00:13.22 | aseigo | sredna: backtraces welcome, of course =) |
| 00:13.31 | aseigo | i wouldn't be surprised |
| 00:13.33 | aseigo | Alethes: hey =) |
| 00:13.41 | sredna | aseigo: I'll be sure to generate one for you mext time it happens |
| 00:13.54 | aseigo | sredna: as for autostart. are you using digital playback or regular playback? |
| 00:14.01 | Ballfire | January is the month i clean up all those layouting bugs =) <--- great |
| 00:14.12 | aseigo | Ballfire: esp since this is January right =) |
| 00:14.13 | sredna | aseigo: Hm, dunno. Is that a setting? |
| 00:14.20 | aseigo | sredna: yes... |
| 00:14.47 | sredna | Hm, where? |
| 00:15.16 | sredna | That is disabled, and unchecked |
| 00:15.32 | sredna | aseigo: So is use regular |
| 00:16.05 | aseigo | sredna: disabled? as in you can't even select it if you wanted to? in any case, you are using regular play.. hrm.. well, i'll look into it in any case. |
| 00:16.34 | sredna | aseigo: Btw, I noticed that manyu CDs has a texst file with album and track information nowadays, which could obviously beused instead of fethcing cddb data -- does kscd use that? |
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| 00:16.50 | aseigo | sredna: yes.. cdda |
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| 00:16.59 | sredna | Rright |
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| 00:17.45 | theobroma | sorry showing kids irc stuff:) |
| 00:18.08 | sredna | aseigo: Another issue that may have to do with the copy control: Some CDs keep replaying the last track, after a pause |
| 00:19.14 | Alethes | [19:19 alethes@pennywise:~] sudo kate |
| 00:19.14 | Alethes | kate: ERROR: Communication problem with kate, it probably crashed. |
| 00:19.16 | Alethes | um |
| 00:19.17 | Alethes | duh? |
| 00:19.17 | aseigo | sredna: you mean the disc finishes, there's a brief pause, and then the last track plays again? |
| 00:19.27 | sredna | aseigo: Yes |
| 00:19.27 | Alethes | why can't I sudo kate? |
| 00:19.43 | aseigo | sredna: because i can see that happening if kscd thinks there's a last track at 3059 minutes or whatever it was in that screenshot =) |
| 00:19.48 | Renze | Alethes: do you allow root to open windows in your X session? |
| 00:19.52 | sredna | Alethes: Try using kdesu instead |
| 00:19.59 | sredna | Right |
| 00:20.03 | Alethes | Renze: not sure, actually |
| 00:20.05 | aseigo | sredna: it'll attempt to play that last track and libwm will likely just go "oh. must mean the first track before that" |
| 00:20.19 | sredna | aseigo: Exactly why I suspected that file :) |
| 00:20.28 | Alethes | ack |
| 00:20.29 | Renze | Alethes: I suspect you'll have more luck with kdesu |
| 00:20.33 | Alethes | it's using the default theme heh |
| 00:20.48 | Renze | Alethes: no, it's using whatever theme you have root set to use :) |
| 00:20.51 | Alethes | right |
| 00:20.54 | Alethes | that's what I mean :) |
| 00:21.17 | Alethes | gonna change root's theme now |
| 00:21.20 | sredna | aseigo: I have some that I bought after fejecting burned copies from my brother actually, since I don't mind paying the musicians and even the record companies |
| 00:21.41 | Borg^Queen | well aseigo after you've finished with the devil, can you help me figure out why qstars isn't making? |
| 00:22.21 | sredna | aseigo: But I dislike the copy protection, I have the right to copy my records, and also play them through my computer (which the copy protections attmepts to prevent as well, they just forgot that windows is not a 110% monopoly yet) |
| 00:22.46 | Borg^Queen | sredna: what are you talking about>? |
| 00:22.57 | sredna | Borg^Queen: CDs |
| 00:23.05 | sredna | Lol |
| 00:23.10 | Borg^Queen | What about them? |
| 00:23.20 | Borg^Queen | You can't copy them? |
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| 00:24.07 | Alethes | aseigo: would it be possible to prompt for root's password with kdesu or whatever whenever trying to save a file that your user doesn't have access to? |
| 00:24.07 | sredna | Borg^Queen: http://83.73.136.202:8004/uuuh.png |
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| 00:25.27 | Borg^Queen | sredna: what is that? It thinks it's a track? |
| 00:26.14 | sredna | Borg^Queen: Well, dont' ask me, I just found it funny, + I suspects the misintepretation beeing responsible for the last song on such cds beeing repeated |
| 00:26.52 | sredna | Borg^Queen: Apart from that, I have no problem copying or playing CDs here |
| 00:27.19 | Borg^Queen | Odd thing |
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| 00:35.54 | Borg^Queen | aseigo: do you have minute to help me figure out why qstars has an error during make? |
| 00:36.03 | aseigo | sure |
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| 00:36.07 | Renze | Borg^Queen: what's the error? |
| 00:36.50 | StevenR | Borg^Queen: you got a pastebin of the error? |
| 00:36.50 | Borg^Queen | It's very short, can I query you? |
| 00:36.50 | Borg^Queen | I posted it on kde-apps.org |
| 00:37.01 | Borg^Queen | one sec |
| 00:37.53 | Borg^Queen | http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=10066&PHPSESSID=d6127faf6e840eaf021312ea5601e05c |
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| 00:42.53 | Borg^Queen | So what do you guys think is the problem? |
| 00:43.40 | Kynlem | Hey everyone :-) Does anyone know what can be the reason of error 'modem doesnt respond', modem is configured to use /dev/ttyS2 (it is in COM3) and CR/LF , CRTSCTS ? |
| 00:43.59 | mobtek | haha Borg^Queen I don't even rememeber writing that post on kde-apps |
| 00:44.00 | mobtek | hahahah |
| 00:44.09 | Borg^Queen | `Did it work before? |
| 00:44.20 | Borg^Queen | mobtek: you're getting old |
| 00:44.30 | mobtek | hahah indeed |
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| 00:44.38 | mobtek | I hit 33 in december hehehe |
| 00:44.42 | Borg^Queen | Kynlem: did the modem work before? |
| 00:44.57 | Borg^Queen | That's not old, you're barely out of diapers |
| 00:45.02 | Kynlem | It works on Windows 98 |
| 00:45.06 | mobtek | :) |
| 00:45.22 | Kynlem | On W I checked that it is in COM3 |
| 00:45.22 | Borg^Queen | Kynlem: is it a winmodem? |
| 00:45.26 | Underlord | is there a shell app in kde that works like a javascript prompt, returning the inputs to stdout? |
| 00:45.28 | Borg^Queen | A softare modem |
| 00:45.33 | Borg^Queen | software even |
| 00:45.58 | Kynlem | I guess, that no coz http://www.kdelinux.net/frames/docs.htm |
| 00:46.19 | Borg^Queen | Who made the modem? |
| 00:46.22 | Kynlem | -- at the end of the page there is annotation by dude who has that modem and seems that it worked for him ........ |
| 00:46.27 | sredna | Borg^Queen: I have that method here |
| 00:46.29 | sredna | Anders@pluto ~ $ grep applicationDirPath /opt/qt-copy/include/qapplication.h |
| 00:46.29 | sredna | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:46.48 | Borg^Queen | sredna: what? |
| 00:46.54 | sredna | Borg^Queen: Your error |
| 00:46.58 | Kynlem | Cirrus Logic 33600 bps PnP V34 |
| 00:47.08 | Borg^Queen | You get that too? |
| 00:47.17 | sredna | Borg^Queen: Are you sure the path to the include directory is correct? |
| 00:47.20 | Renze | 33.6? whoa, that certainly predates winmodems |
| 00:47.22 | Borg^Queen | Ok that modem should work with linux |
| 00:47.34 | Borg^Queen | LOL |
| 00:47.40 | Borg^Queen | sredna: I think so |
| 00:47.54 | sredna | Auch |
| 00:47.59 | Borg^Queen | Kynlem: what are you using to dial out, kppp? |
| 00:48.00 | Kynlem | Borg^Queen, yes that is my modem |
| 00:48.05 | Kynlem | Yes. |
| 00:48.28 | Borg^Queen | ok try different tys until you find the right one |
| 00:48.37 | sredna | Try swithcing the eol setting, and make sure the device is correct |
| 00:48.41 | Borg^Queen | Also, is the modem set to pnp? |
| 00:48.45 | Borg^Queen | Or are you specifying a com? |
| 00:48.52 | Renze | you might also want to check permissions |
| 00:49.10 | Borg^Queen | DOH! |
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| 00:49.15 | Borg^Queen | yeah that too |
| 00:49.30 | Kynlem | Borg^Queen, tty1-3 return 'not responds' and tty4 returns 'it is busy' |
| 00:49.42 | Borg^Queen | And the others? |
| 00:49.43 | AssociateX | Hi hello |
| 00:49.49 | Borg^Queen | Keep going |
| 00:49.56 | Borg^Queen | Hello AssociateX |
| 00:49.58 | Kynlem | Borg^Queen, my modem is in com3 |
| 00:50.14 | Borg^Queen | Aye, try it anyway |
| 00:50.19 | Borg^Queen | modems are a funny thing |
| 00:50.29 | AssociateX | Borg^Queen, eyes me for what? |
| 00:50.51 | Kynlem | Borg^Queen, try what ........ ? |
| 00:50.51 | Borg^Queen | Braggard |
| 00:51.10 | sredna | Kynlem: Try enabling debug output |
| 00:51.13 | Borg^Queen | Try different coms etc in the kppp settings |
| 00:51.21 | Kynlem | I tried. |
| 00:51.24 | Renze | Borg^Queen: hey, I have so little to brag about... let me have at least one :) |
| 00:51.38 | Borg^Queen | ok ok |
| 00:51.45 | Kynlem | -- Borg^Queen, tty0, tt1, tty2 return 'not responds' and tty3 returns 'it is busy' -- |
| 00:52.02 | Borg^Queen | and the others |
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| 00:52.12 | Borg^Queen | tty4? |
| 00:52.34 | aseigo | Borg^Queen: did you get an answer yet? |
| 00:52.36 | Borg^Queen | My modem is one com3, which shows up as ttyS4 |
| 00:52.50 | Borg^Queen | Nope |
| 00:52.57 | Borg^Queen | No one likes me |
| 00:53.50 | Kynlem | hm |
| 00:53.56 | aseigo | Borg^Queen: ok. at the top of mainwindow.cpp is there a #include <qapplication.h>? |
| 00:54.13 | Kynlem | By mandrake installation tuts I was told that COM3 is tty2 |
| 00:54.15 | Borg^Queen | EEECK Boy germs! |
| 00:54.30 | illogic-al | :-D |
| 00:54.59 | Borg^Queen | aseigo: pardon? In the term? |
| 00:55.00 | illogic-al | I'm in "The Mood". |
| 00:55.28 | illogic-al | hahah |
| 00:55.40 | Kynlem | ok let me try all |
| 00:55.42 | Kynlem | brb |
| 00:55.52 | Borg^Queen | That's a lad |
| 00:56.46 | illogic-al | grar! |
| 00:56.53 | illogic-al | my dns is not working! |
| 00:56.53 | Borg^Queen | aseigo: I'm not following you. In the term or in the actual dir |
| 00:57.10 | Borg^Queen | It's a Renze's fault |
| 00:57.18 | Renze | of course it is |
| 00:57.18 | aseigo | Borg^Queen: open mainwindow.cpp in a text editor. |
| 00:57.31 | Borg^Queen | ok |
| 00:58.11 | Borg^Queen | yes? |
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| 00:58.55 | Borg^Queen | Sorry I meant yes |
| 00:58.56 | I440r_ | grr i KNOW im workin on it lol |
| 00:59.00 | aseigo | Borg^Queen: now look for that line: #include <qapplication.h> |
| 00:59.04 | Borg^Queen | apt: did it hurt? |
| 00:59.09 | I440r_ | can someone tell me how to get kdm to run at boot in gentoo ? |
| 00:59.14 | Borg^Queen | Yes it's in there |
| 00:59.18 | Alethes | why can I run sudo gedit but not sudo kate? |
| 00:59.26 | I440r_ | illogic-al: yea yea |
| 00:59.27 | illogic-al | awesome. it's a root account too! |
| 00:59.28 | I440r_ | :P |
| 00:59.36 | I440r_ | how do i get kdm to run at boot ? |
| 00:59.49 | Renze | I440r_: set the appropriate variable in /etc/rc.conf, and add xdm to your default startup |
| 00:59.54 | sredna | I440r_: A setting somewhere |
| 00:59.59 | illogic-al | if you use gentoo... |
| 01:00.07 | I440r_ | renze in gentoo ? |
| 01:00.11 | Renze | yes |
| 01:00.18 | Borg^Queen | aseigo: I have the line |
| 01:00.20 | I440r_ | ok let me look :) |
| 01:00.23 | Borg^Queen | It's a tight fit |
| 01:00.44 | I440r_ | aha the xsession variable! |
| 01:00.45 | illogic-al | Renze: I know, there's no accounting for taste w/ gentoo users :-p |
| 01:00.46 | sredna | I440r_: |
| 01:00.47 | sredna | # nano -w /etc/rc.conf |
| 01:00.47 | sredna | (Edit the following two variables) |
| 01:00.47 | sredna | XSESSION="kde-3.2.1" |
| 01:00.48 | sredna | DISPLAYMANAGER="kdm" |
| 01:00.48 | Renze | I440r_: if you need baby-step instructions, just ask |
| 01:00.59 | mobtek | I440r_: yuppers |
| 01:01.02 | aseigo | Borg^Queen: what version of qt? |
| 01:01.08 | mobtek | and rc-update add xdm default? |
| 01:01.15 | Borg^Queen | 3.1 |
| 01:01.23 | mobtek | I440r_: for when you boot |
| 01:01.24 | aseigo | Borg^Queen: ah! |
| 01:01.30 | I440r_ | renze no i dont need baby step instructions, im not new to gentoo or linux - im new to kde though. this isnt my box, im setting it up for a little old lady :) |
| 01:01.33 | sredna | I440r_: Of cause make the XSESSION reflect your actual version |
| 01:01.39 | Borg^Queen | Dont' laugh |
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| 01:01.41 | I440r_ | i did the adding to default :) |
| 01:01.46 | I440r_ | im gona test it |
| 01:01.51 | I440r_ | by doing the unthinkable!!!!!!!!! |
| 01:01.56 | I440r_ | hehe |
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| 01:02.00 | Borg^Queen | GASP |
| 01:02.01 | sredna | Naaaaaaa |
| 01:02.04 | sredna | Auch |
| 01:02.31 | aseigo | Borg^Queen: you need to upgrade your Qt.. i don't think that was added until later.. 3.2 or maybe even 3.3 |
| 01:02.47 | aseigo | Borg^Queen: what version of kde are you running? </puzzled look> |
| 01:02.58 | Borg^Queen | I'm stuck with what I have on this machine |
| 01:03.02 | Borg^Queen | Until the new Debian comes out |
| 01:03.04 | sredna | Hm, kio_http_cache_cleaner might be the moster that kills kde's opportunity |
| 01:03.06 | Borg^Queen | Long LONG story |
| 01:03.11 | Borg^Queen | 3.1 |
| 01:03.46 | Alethes | rror: "/var/tmp/kdecache-alethes" is owned by uid 1001 instead of uid 0. |
| 01:03.46 | Borg^Queen | go ahead, laugh |
| 01:03.49 | Alethes | Link points to "/var/tmp/kdecache-root" |
| 01:03.53 | Alethes | this is the prob with running kde apps with sudo |
| 01:03.55 | illogic-al | AAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAH |
| 01:04.00 | illogic-al | 3.1! |
| 01:04.01 | Alethes | any way I can fix this without using kdesu? |
| 01:04.26 | jepel_tailweaver | Why not just mod kdesu to use sudo? |
| 01:04.47 | Renze | thank you mistress, may I have some more? |
| 01:04.59 | Borg^Queen | Yuck |
| 01:05.23 | illogic-al | Fear me and my awesome balsa wood powers puny machine! |
| 01:05.38 | illogic-al | lol |
| 01:05.43 | Borg^Queen | Of what? |
| 01:05.49 | aseigo | of swoon. |
| 01:05.53 | mobtek | whats wrong with kdesu? |
| 01:05.58 | aseigo | off to a coffee shop! bbiaw |
| 01:05.59 | illogic-al | Borg^Queen: He's going all lovey dovey on you |
| 01:06.03 | Borg^Queen | What's that? |
| 01:06.04 | illogic-al | more boy cooties... |
| 01:06.12 | Borg^Queen | EEEWWWWW |
| 01:06.15 | mobtek | aseigo: yes coffee is a damn fine idea |
| 01:06.38 | Borg^Queen | So aseigo no hope of fixing it? |
| 01:07.11 | illogic-al | [20:06] <aseigo> off to a coffee shop! bbiaw |
| 01:07.15 | sredna | Nothing is wrong with kdesu |
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| 01:07.54 | i440r_ | nope that didnt work |
| 01:08.10 | sredna | i440r_: Did you edit rc.conf? |
| 01:08.14 | i440r_ | yes |
| 01:08.18 | Borg^Queen | Do you have gdm loaded? |
| 01:08.26 | Renze | i440r_: then you are not the gentoo'er you claim to be :) |
| 01:08.29 | i440r_ | i uncommented the commented out XSESSION="kde" |
| 01:08.34 | i440r_ | no i was told to use xdm |
| 01:08.36 | i440r_ | why not kdm ? |
| 01:08.44 | i440r_ | why is there no /etc/init.d/kdm ? |
| 01:08.56 | JDSmith | xdm calls kdm |
| 01:09.00 | sredna | i440r_: There is a line like DISPLAYMANAGER='kde' or so |
| 01:09.00 | Renze | i440r_: the xdm startup script launches whatever is set in DISPLAYMANAGER |
| 01:09.00 | Borg^Queen | remove xdm |
| 01:09.01 | i440r_ | not in this case |
| 01:09.06 | Borg^Queen | Oooh |
| 01:09.12 | Borg^Queen | Never mind |
| 01:09.14 | Renze | DISPLAYMANAGER="kdm" |
| 01:09.25 | sredna | Anders@pluto ~ $ grep -i displaymanager /etc/rc.conf |
| 01:09.25 | sredna | DISPLAYMANAGER="kdecvs" |
| 01:09.54 | sredna | Renze: It's 'kde' I think, allthoug my vesion is customized a wee bit |
| 01:10.01 | Renze | sredna: mine is kdm |
| 01:10.11 | JDSmith | it should be kdm |
| 01:10.12 | sredna | Hum hum |
| 01:10.12 | Renze | mine is as I pasted above |
| 01:10.12 | i440r_ | ok i got it :) |
| 01:10.21 | Borg^Queen | well I need to get to work. BBL |
| 01:10.27 | i440r_ | im not a noob with gentoo OR linux - but i never use kde personally |
| 01:10.32 | i440r_ | so that i AM new with |
| 01:10.38 | sredna | Believe renze over me i440r_, I use development packages and self-compiled kde |
| 01:10.48 | Renze | i440r_: well, the rc.conf/xdm stuff is nothing to do with kde and all to do with gentoo |
| 01:11.20 | i440r_ | renze and i always skip over it all because i never use xdm or any of that stuff so it just didnt register with me |
| 01:11.33 | Renze | i440r_: poor excuse, you non-geek you |
| 01:12.15 | sredna | Lol |
| 01:12.20 | i440r_ | ok its working :) |
| 01:12.25 | i440r_ | renze whatever :P |
| 01:12.35 | i440r_ | renze isforth.clss.net is my non geeky project :P |
| 01:12.56 | mobtek | i440r_: there is a thing on gentoo.org for this hehe |
| 01:13.30 | mobtek | http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/kde-config.xml <-- near the bottom of the page |
| 01:13.41 | Renze | people still use Forth?!? |
| 01:14.07 | mobtek | pfft prolog :P |
| 01:14.21 | Renze | prolog has it's uses... but it's not quite flexible enough |
| 01:14.29 | xomp | would anyone know of a way that I can pass the output of my monitor to disk? kind of like take a snapshot of a terminal session? I'm using a live linux cd that only has terminal access and need to take some snapshots of the menu's within it and dunno how :( |
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| 01:20.08 | mobtek | xomp: there is some utility for that |
| 01:20.22 | mobtek | can't remember the name though |
| 01:20.23 | mobtek | sorry |
| 01:20.50 | xomp | mobtek, would you know how to mount an .ISO? I can make this into an .ISO then emulate it that way I'm sure |
| 01:21.09 | mobtek | mount an iso to see the data in it? |
| 01:21.13 | mobtek | use a loopback |
| 01:21.45 | mobtek | mount -t iso9660 -o loop /cdrom/something.iso /mnt/cdrom/ |
| 01:21.54 | mobtek | something like that |
| 01:22.23 | xomp | okay is there a way to run that .ISO? (its a live linux cd of sorts) in a terminal window? as if I have booted too it? |
| 01:22.35 | mobtek | hmm no idea :) |
| 01:23.05 | Renze | chroot? |
| 01:23.05 | sredna | Uml |
| 01:23.10 | sredna | (usermode linux) |
| 01:23.40 | sredna | But that's not that easy of cause |
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| 01:29.00 | sredna | xomp: Screen has a logging option |
| 01:29.08 | sredna | It you have that |
| 01:29.10 | harpagon | hi all...i am using kde-3.3..it can catch the clicks of my thumb buttons of my mouse..but i want to attach them to different actions than it attaches currently..does anyone know how to do this? |
| 01:29.13 | xomp | sredna, really? :D |
| 01:31.18 | mobtek | harpagon: KHotKeys? |
| 01:31.21 | sredna | 404 projects found |
| 01:31.23 | sredna | Lol |
| 01:32.05 | xomp | sredna, got a real stupid question for you :p what is used to edit an "initrd.gz" file? *ducks* |
| 01:32.16 | xomp | man, I can ask some strange questions can't I? hehe |
| 01:32.39 | sredna | xomp: I don't know |
| 01:32.56 | sredna | xomp: Bootsplash has something to add images to it |
| 01:33.03 | harpagon | mobtek, so how to use it? |
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| 01:33.27 | harpagon | what does it have to do with thumb buttons? |
| 01:33.45 | xomp | sredna, thanks mate :) I appreciate your help \o/ |
| 01:33.53 | mobtek | harpagon: did you find khotkeys? |
| 01:33.58 | harpagon | yeah |
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| 01:34.06 | harpagon | mobtek, yes i did |
| 01:34.11 | sybox_ | hi everyone |
| 01:34.20 | sybox_ | how do i go to boot time options |
| 01:34.21 | sybox_ | ? |
| 01:34.21 | sredna | xomp: mkinitrd (8) - creates initial ramdisk images for preloading modules |
| 01:34.28 | mobtek | add a new group then add a new action to that group |
| 01:34.37 | mobtek | then add the mouse click in there iirc |
| 01:34.57 | mobtek | oh sorry thats only for keyboard |
| 01:34.59 | mobtek | I'm a dolt :P |
| 01:35.05 | sybox_ | how do i go to boot time options? |
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| 01:35.16 | harpagon | mobtek, :(( |
| 01:35.24 | nell | ok, why doesnt kde source /etc/profile when you run a terminal ? |
| 01:35.30 | nell | how do i make it do so ? |
| 01:35.39 | _I440r_ | grr |
| 01:35.39 | Kynlem | 33:38] <adikt> -h is nicer |
| 01:35.40 | Kynlem | [03:33:53] <DGT> how know were is sendmail on mandrake 8.1 |
| 01:35.40 | Kynlem | [03:34:07] <Kynlem> Hey dudes :-) |
| 01:35.40 | Kynlem | [03:34:11] <adikt> shiwan, i gotta agree with you there |
| 01:35.40 | Kynlem | [03:34:22] <Kynlem> I got 'Cirrus Logic 33600 bps PnP V34' modem, and can't configure it on Linux Mandrake 7.2 / KDE2 / kppp . I know it's sorta old, but my PC isn't brand new too (PI 200MHz). Accoring to the footer of article http://www.kdelinux.net/frames/docs.htm I can say that my modem isn't winmodem. In Windows 98 it works OK and I checked what port it is in - COM3. So I tried dev/ttyS2 but it said 'Modem doesn\'t respond'. I tried the oth |
| 01:35.44 | Kynlem | [03:34:23] <adikt> shiwan, i get crossed trying to read that |
| 01:35.46 | Kynlem | [03:34:30] <adikt> crosseyed too |
| 01:35.48 | Kynlem | OOOOOPS |
| 01:35.50 | Kynlem | NVM |
| 01:37.04 | sybox_ | how do i go to boot time options? |
| 01:37.06 | Kynlem | pt ttyS3 said 'Modem doesn't respond'. ttyS4 said 'Modem is busy'. Also I tried different configurations of Flow Control and Line Termination but it still not works. If anyone knows, please reply :-) |
| 01:37.06 | Kynlem | [03:35:36] <Kynlem> [03:34:23] <adikt> shiwan, i get crossed trying to read that |
| 01:37.06 | Kynlem | [03:35:36] <Kynlem> [03:34:30] <adikt> crosseyed too |
| 01:37.06 | Kynlem | [03:35:42] <Kynlem> OOOOOPS |
| 01:37.06 | Kynlem | [03:35:44] * Quits: _I440r_ (~nell@216-110-82 |
| 01:37.13 | Kynlem | FSCK SORRY AGAIN |
| 01:37.25 | sredna | Auch |
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| 01:38.15 | mobtek | haha Kynlem |
| 01:38.19 | sredna | sybox_: Kde has little to do with booting |
| 01:38.23 | Kynlem | sredna, I've tried all "tty"'s in the list and also I tried various FlowCtrl and LT settings but still not works |
| 01:38.28 | harpagon | mobtek, dont you have any other idea? |
| 01:38.37 | mobtek | harpagon: hmm there must be some app to remap mouse keys |
| 01:38.47 | mobtek | I'm surprised KDE doesn't have one |
| 01:38.56 | JDSmith | imwheel |
| 01:39.03 | JDSmith | that should let you remap some things |
| 01:39.11 | mobtek | JDSmith: ahh ta |
| 01:39.13 | sredna | Kynlem: Sorry. I remember having the same trouble back in my mandrake 7.2 days |
| 01:39.22 | harpagon | it is for catcihng the events as far as i know JDSmith .. |
| 01:39.27 | sredna | Kynlem: Did you try wvdial? |
| 01:39.28 | harpagon | kde can catch.. |
| 01:39.30 | Kynlem | sredna, you didn't solve it than ? |
| 01:39.35 | Kynlem | sredna, no |
| 01:39.38 | harpagon | but to something i dont want |
| 01:39.53 | sredna | Kynlem: I got my modem to work with kppp eventually, by poking around |
| 01:40.02 | sredna | Kynlem: For my brothers, we ended using vwdial |
| 01:40.02 | Kynlem | hm |
| 01:40.17 | Kynlem | It is with kde2 by default ? |
| 01:40.23 | JDSmith | mobtek: http://www.petebevin.com/archives/2004/09/16/linux_mx700_mouse_and_thumb_buttons.html |
| 01:40.31 | JDSmith | try that site |
| 01:40.37 | JDSmith | should give you some ideas |
| 01:40.39 | sredna | No, vwdial is a small cli utility, find it at freshmeat |
| 01:40.40 | harpagon | :)) |
| 01:41.08 | Kynlem | sredna, you think than can be kppp-special problem ? |
| 01:41.26 | harpagon | i am not using fedora |
| 01:41.30 | harpagon | but gentoo |
| 01:41.33 | sredna | Kynlem: No really, I just know that some modems simply does not work with it |
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| 01:42.06 | I440r__ | ok now that im using an irc client that doesnt claim 5 minutes of lag for every action..... |
| 01:42.06 | Kynlem | ok, guys anyway thanks for help :-) |
| 01:42.14 | I440r__ | how do i make konsole source /etc/profile ? |
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| 01:42.16 | sredna | Kynlem: I'm not aware of the reason, and it may have been solved in the meantime. But that does not help you if you run mandrake 7.2. |
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| 01:42.51 | sredna | I440r__: That file should be sourced at login time, and inherited by subsequent sessions |
| 01:42.58 | sybox_ | In kde there is an application that let's you setup your boot parameters in debian |
| 01:43.03 | sredna | I440r__: If it's not, your system is misconfigured |
| 01:43.07 | I440r__ | its not being sourced at all |
| 01:43.16 | I440r__ | neithr are the users .bash_profile or .bashrc |
| 01:43.23 | sybox_ | but i don't know which application does that |
| 01:43.26 | sybox_ | any help? |
| 01:43.41 | sredna | sybox_: Kwrite :o |
| 01:44.02 | I440r__ | sredna kde is being launched via kdm at boot. ther is NO shell login until AFTER kde starts |
| 01:44.12 | I440r__ | so /etc/profile isnt being sourced at boot |
| 01:44.23 | I440r__ | and THAT is very bad |
| 01:44.50 | sredna | I440r__: Well, in that case your system is misconfigured. A trick is to add '-l' at the first line of the startkde script, but it's kinda ugly |
| 01:44.51 | I440r__ | also, when i open a konsole the users .bashrc and .bash_profile should ALSO be sourced and are NOT being |
| 01:45.08 | I440r__ | err im not using startkde |
| 01:45.11 | I440r__ | im using kdm |
| 01:45.20 | sredna | I440r__: Kdm is calling startkde |
| 01:45.26 | I440r__ | or rather - im setting this system up for someone to use kdm |
| 01:45.44 | sredna | I440r__: A gentoo box? |
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| 01:46.34 | sredna | Good night everybody :) |
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| 01:49.33 | da9000 | quick question: which program is the one I run (under KDE) to change KDM's settings ? |
| 01:50.04 | mobtek | kcontrol -> System Admin -> Login Manager |
| 01:50.13 | da9000 | mobtek, thank you |
| 01:50.21 | mobtek | no probs, was just running it hehe |
| 01:51.18 | da9000 | mobtek, heh. Is that were I can setit up so the KDM doesn't auto-launch on system bootup ? |
| 01:51.32 | mobtek | hmm nope |
| 01:51.43 | mobtek | just take it out of the Xsession in /etc/X11 iirc |
| 01:51.54 | da9000 | mobtek, i see. |
| 01:53.33 | AssociateX | I despise noatun |
| 01:54.53 | AssociateX | for every audio file I click on, noatun pops up |
| 01:55.04 | mobtek | change it in your file associations in konqi |
| 01:55.17 | AssociateX | when I try to shut it down it just goes to the tray |
| 01:55.17 | sybox_ | mobtek no options there to stop running X so that i can install the nvidia drivers |
| 01:55.32 | sybox_ | i mean in kcontrol->System admin etc |
| 01:55.53 | mobtek | nope |
| 01:55.58 | AssociateX | mobtek, did that, moved xmms up then saved, then noatun was at the top of the list again. |
| 01:56.03 | mobtek | ctrl-alt-F1 |
| 01:56.07 | mobtek | AssociateX: heh weirdness |
| 01:56.17 | mobtek | sybox_: then killall kdm :P |
| 01:56.24 | mobtek | then install your new driver |
| 01:56.27 | AssociateX | mobtek, yes, but it's probably something simple though |
| 01:56.31 | mobtek | then restart kdm heheh |
| 01:56.55 | sybox_ | thanx |
| 01:57.03 | da9000 | mobtek, i think kdm will auto respawn |
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| 01:57.16 | mobtek | da9000: no it won't :) |
| 01:57.21 | mobtek | I do that all the time :) |
| 01:57.31 | da9000 | mobtek, ok, then it used to or something... thanks |
| 01:57.48 | mobtek | he'll need to modprobe nvidia thought to get the new driver :) |
| 01:57.57 | da9000 | right |
| 01:58.12 | da9000 | the NV driver auto loads the kernel module after compuile |
| 01:58.34 | mobtek | yeah but he should be using the nvidia module not nv |
| 01:59.06 | da9000 | that's what the NVidia driver installs (NV I meant NVidia, not nv.so ... didn't wanna type all that) |
| 01:59.46 | mobtek | hehehehe |
| 02:00.10 | da9000 | ;) |
| 02:00.28 | da9000 | i'm outta here |
| 02:00.29 | da9000 | cya |
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| 02:01.03 | safrican | my focus is messed up in kde 3.3.2 <-- i need to use mouse to switch windows, alt+tab doesn't work |
| 02:01.07 | safrican | any ideas ? |
| 02:01.42 | safrican | please help |
| 02:03.17 | mobtek | safrican: hmm won't work if something other than the desktop has focus |
| 02:04.12 | safrican | mobtek: huh ? |
| 02:06.40 | mobtek | like if another app is covering the desktop where the mouse has focus |
| 02:06.56 | safrican | how can i see if desktop has focus ? |
| 02:08.59 | mobtek | put the mouse over a clear piece of desktop then try using the scrollwhen and see if the desktop changes :) |
| 02:09.40 | safrican | um - it's not changing |
| 02:10.21 | mobtek | ok set it in kcontrol |
| 02:10.55 | safrican | mobtek: yeah - i'm kinda new to KDE, i've been using xfce4/gnome for the past few years - kinda trying it out |
| 02:10.55 | mobtek | Desktop -> Multiple Desktops |
| 02:11.09 | safrican | ok.. |
| 02:11.10 | mobtek | click the Mouse wheel over desktop background switches desktop |
| 02:11.25 | safrican | yup done |
| 02:11.38 | safrican | but it still doesn't help, i still need to use mouse to switch windows |
| 02:11.43 | safrican | alt+tab doesn't work |
| 02:12.58 | mobtek | hmm does your scrollwheel work in other apps at all? |
| 02:13.19 | mobtek | if not add Option "ZAxisMApping" "4 5" in your xorg.conf in the mouse device section |
| 02:13.26 | mobtek | then restart xorg |
| 02:13.42 | mobtek | with a small A though :P |
| 02:16.59 | safrican | i have it |
| 02:17.08 | safrican | :P |
| 02:17.14 | mobtek | hmm ok weirdness then if it isn't working |
| 02:17.14 | mobtek | hehe |
| 02:17.49 | safrican | haha |
| 02:17.52 | safrican | never mind it's working now |
| 02:17.59 | safrican | i had it to use unix's defaults - not kde |
| 02:18.05 | safrican | and i fixed it and it worksk now |
| 02:19.41 | mobtek | hahah ok kewl |
| 02:19.49 | safrican | :) thanks for the help |
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| 02:20.39 | mobtek | no probs |
| 02:20.42 | Emma242 | hi guys |
| 02:20.58 | Emma242 | how do I edit the session list in KDM? |
| 02:21.38 | mobtek | in /etc/X11/Xsession Emma242 methinks |
| 02:21.52 | mobtek | if you add more than one session type in there and restart xorg it should show up |
| 02:21.58 | Emma242 | it llooks for .xinitrc, but my edit wont work... |
| 02:21.59 | mobtek | but never tried it heheh |
| 02:22.14 | Emma242 | this is xinitrc: http://rafb.net/paste/results/CGSMgA95.html |
| 02:22.19 | Emma242 | trying to add wmi |
| 02:22.57 | mobtek | haha my .xinitrc is only exec startkde :P |
| 02:23.06 | Emma242 | yes |
| 02:23.14 | Emma242 | everyones seem to be |
| 02:23.17 | Emma242 | shit |
| 02:24.28 | canllaith | mine is a bit longer lol |
| 02:24.42 | Emma242 | =( |
| 02:25.01 | canllaith | good god, that is one hell of an xinitrc |
| 02:25.25 | mobtek | haha thats what you get for using SuSe :P |
| 02:25.39 | Renze | holy sh!t |
| 02:25.51 | Renze | that's kinda long |
| 02:26.07 | canllaith | hahaha although I do the same thing |
| 02:26.10 | canllaith | just in a different way. |
| 02:26.15 | Emma242 | sigh |
| 02:26.21 | canllaith | I have .xinitrc-kde, .xinitrc-kdecvs .xinitrc-xfce4 |
| 02:26.30 | canllaith | and just copy them over my .xinitrc if I want to change wm |
| 02:27.34 | canllaith | hahaha 'finally start thw window manager' FINALLY is right.. .wow |
| 02:28.01 | mobtek | heheh |
| 02:28.28 | canllaith | yay new charger!! |
| 02:28.37 | canllaith | Now I can stop soldering my old one twice a day |
| 02:30.16 | grepper | Emma242, kdm does a TryExec on the desktop files in your your xsessions directory to see which ones are in the kdm dropdown list |
| 02:31.01 | mobtek | grepper: ahhh I knew I was wrong on that one :P |
| 02:31.17 | Emma242 | I added wmi there.. |
| 02:32.01 | grepper | Emma242, what was the dir called ? |
| 02:32.06 | eean | I'm trying to follow the directions in http://www.kdevelop.org/doc/technotes/rubyrad.html , but the "create or select imlementation class for: Mainbase" window does not pop up |
| 02:32.16 | Emma242 | what dir? |
| 02:32.29 | grepper | the sessions directory |
| 02:32.54 | eean | does kdevelop need extra stuff configured for the qtruby stuff to work right? |
| 02:33.05 | Emma242 | hmm |
| 02:33.18 | grepper | Emma242: did you try KDEDIR/share/apps/kdm/sessions ? |
| 02:33.52 | Emma242 | dont have it |
| 02:34.07 | Emma242 | only a pics dir |
| 02:34.11 | grepper | its /usr/share/apps/kdm/sessions here |
| 02:34.26 | eean | ha, never mind, I'd have to use the CVS version of kdevelop |
| 02:34.46 | grepper | /usr/share/xsessions ? |
| 02:35.11 | Emma242 | looking in /etc/opt/kde3/share |
| 02:35.29 | Emma242 | cant find anything in /usr/share |
| 02:35.36 | Emma242 | well not kde |
| 02:35.47 | grepper | where is your KDEDIR ? |
| 02:35.48 | Emma242 | or sessions |
| 02:36.15 | Emma242 | isnt it /etc/opt/kde3/share? |
| 02:36.29 | Renze | Emma242: depends on your distro |
| 02:36.35 | Emma242 | suse |
| 02:36.49 | Renze | then I have no idea :) |
| 02:36.58 | Emma242 | thats all i find |
| 02:37.18 | Emma242 | oooooooh |
| 02:37.58 | grepper | kde-config --prefix |
| 02:38.32 | Emma242 | ok /opt/kde3, heading over there |
| 02:38.57 | Emma242 | sessions found |
| 02:39.03 | Emma242 | aha |
| 02:39.31 | Emma242 | wierd files |
| 02:39.51 | grepper | you found the *.desktop files with the TryExec ? |
| 02:40.38 | Emma242 | yeah |
| 02:42.44 | Emma242 | what is Name[hi] etc? |
| 02:43.33 | grepper | localization stuff - other languages |
| 02:44.44 | Emma242 | made an wmi.desktop |
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| 02:45.42 | Emma242 | whoho! |
| 02:45.48 | Emma242 | thanks alot grepper !! |
| 02:45.56 | grepper | np :) |
| 02:46.13 | Emma242 | weee |
| 02:47.34 | mobtek | hehe everyone has kdm questions today hehe |
| 02:47.40 | mobtek | must be something in the air |
| 02:47.44 | mobtek | or drinking water :) |
| 02:48.19 | grepper | my X in hoary is borked |
| 02:53.43 | mobtek | grepper: doh |
| 02:55.00 | grepper | strange, same xorg file as my debian box where it works perfectly |
| 02:55.25 | *** join/#kde MrGrim (mrgrim@12-202-217-219.client.insightBB.com) |
