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| 00:02.12 | jadrian | isn't there rot13 in kmail?? |
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| 00:02.49 | Renze | you mean you can't decode it in your head? :) |
| 00:02.52 | StevenR | jadrian: no, afaict |
| 00:03.17 | jadrian | :-/ |
| 00:03.33 | StevenR | i taught some 6 year olds rot 13 |
| 00:03.34 | sredna | You can filter the message through a script, jadrian |
| 00:03.46 | jadrian | sredna: let me see that |
| 00:05.20 | jadrian | sredna: there seems to be no rot13 action. Also what would I put in the filter? I just want to apply it to one msg |
| 00:06.08 | sredna | jadrian: The pipe through replaces the message with the program output I think |
| 00:06.18 | jadrian | sredna: ah |
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| 00:10.51 | m1lkc0w | Anyone using multisync with korganizer? |
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| 00:25.50 | eliasp | how do i change the 3.4 menu behaviour back to the 3.3 ?? opening up the k menu when pushing meta/win-key |
| 00:26.09 | thiago | you don't |
| 00:26.19 | thiago | it's been removed because it was a hack and didn't work half the time |
| 00:26.44 | eliasp | really??? didn't have any problems here... |
| 00:26.57 | thiago | you can use the old Alt+F1 shortcut, which has worked since before KDE 1.0 |
| 00:27.26 | eliasp | i know.... but i think it's more comfortable using just the windoze key |
| 00:27.30 | thiago | maybe some distributions will add the hack back in, but the official KDE won't have it. |
| 00:27.38 | eliasp | ok |
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| 00:32.09 | ragarth | Hello, I'm setting up a new kde system and one of the issues I'm having is a blank icon in the system tray. It does nothing but sit there and I have no idea what program set it up. Everything I've pulled up on google deals with specific programs but not if you don't know what program caused it. Any idea on how I can get rid of this thing? |
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| 00:33.15 | thiago | ragarth: I'm guessing it's kio_uiserver |
| 00:33.24 | thiago | when you're downloading something, clicking on it shows a window? |
| 00:33.47 | ragarth | No, I click and it does nothing. It appears to serve utterly no purpose. |
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| 00:40.30 | chavo | ragarth, what distro? |
| 00:40.50 | ragarth | Fedora Core 3. |
| 00:41.16 | chavo | ragarth, FC3 adds some sort of update manager applet on startup. |
| 00:41.25 | chavo | it might be that. |
| 00:41.37 | chavo | I can't remember the name of the program. |
| 00:41.49 | thiago | could be |
| 00:42.07 | thiago | where did you install KDE? Is it the same prefix as the one where KDE was installed? |
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| 00:42.45 | ragarth | I installed kde from the fedora ftp site. |
| 00:42.48 | chavo | I'm not using FC3 right now, so I can't check. |
| 00:42.53 | ragarth | Let me check if it's the update manager. |
| 00:43.33 | ragarth | No, not the update icon. |
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| 00:45.13 | chavo | The only other applet I've seen added to the tray was the screen resolution applet. |
| 00:45.30 | ragarth | Is there a way that I can find all the programs in the system tray, or a list of all the programs that first start up when you log in? I didn't have anything in ~/.kde/Autostart |
| 00:46.12 | chavo | ragarth, fire up System guard. |
| 00:46.23 | sredna | ragarth: Look in KDEDIR/share/autostart |
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| 00:47.52 | sredna | ragarth: Apps in the systray is harder to find, but if you start with no session, there are only the default ones, klipper is the only one I think |
| 00:47.59 | agiofws | ragarth: you use kdm to login in? |
| 00:49.01 | ragarth | adiofws: I'm not sure I know what you mean. The way fedora has it setup I can choose any windows UI I have installed from a list, so I don't think kde is what I log in with. |
| 00:49.53 | agiofws | kdm is kde loggin manager ? right guys? |
| 00:49.54 | ragarth | It's not klipper, and it wasn't there when I initially set things up, it only appeared after about a day of use. |
| 00:50.30 | thiago | agiofws: yes |
| 00:53.24 | ragarth | sredna, thank you, I found all my startups. |
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| 01:26.41 | JacobBrown | Anyone know how to change the background image in konqueror? |
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| 01:27.27 | eliasp | JacobBrown: View --> Background color |
| 01:28.19 | JacobBrown | eliasp, oh... wow |
| 01:28.29 | jcurry | lol |
| 01:28.36 | JacobBrown | eliasp, you wouldn't believe how long I've been looking for that |
| 01:29.03 | Renze | it's always in the last place you look |
| 01:29.10 | eliasp | hehe, exactly ;) |
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| 01:29.38 | JacobBrown | I searched the control center and settings-> configure konqueror for many months |
| 01:30.11 | Renze | to quote the hippy newspaper collector from one episode of The Simpsons: "simplify, man!" |
| 01:35.12 | JacobBrown | oh, anyone happen to know why kdevelop3 segfaults if I tell it to use the vim editor? |
| 01:35.23 | JacobBrown | that one has been bugging me for a while too |
| 01:36.25 | jcurry | duh, view > fix vim integration... |
| 01:36.26 | jcurry | duh |
| 01:36.37 | jcurry | :) |
| 01:36.43 | JacobBrown | lol |
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| 01:39.18 | Paleo | i'm runnning a aRts-free KDE , and I have problem with apps that use KDE notification system. in kcontrol, i've set "play" as the external player |
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| 01:40.12 | JacobBrown | I didn't know you could do that |
| 01:40.51 | Paleo | oops, I forgot the part about: |
| 01:41.05 | Paleo | "but still, no sound is output from apps that use KDE notification system" |
| 01:41.06 | Paleo | lol |
| 01:41.23 | thiago | does play get run? |
| 01:41.41 | Paleo | yeah |
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| 01:42.13 | thiago | so why doesn't play play? |
| 01:42.28 | Paleo | i don't know, it's why I'm asking :) |
| 01:42.40 | thiago | if you run it from the command-line, what happens? |
| 01:42.55 | Paleo | it plays the sound |
| 01:43.19 | thiago | do you know the exact command-line play is being called with? |
| 01:44.44 | Paleo | from kde notification systeme ? |
| 01:44.50 | thiago | yes |
| 01:44.51 | Paleo | I guess it is "play %file" |
| 01:45.39 | thiago | no, that's not what I meant |
| 01:45.55 | thiago | when play is run by knotify, do you know what exactly gets called? |
| 01:46.29 | thiago | hint: configure knotify to run a script of yours that does ' echo "$*" > /tmp/output ' and then make a sound |
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| 01:46.41 | Trevor | Hi |
| 01:47.56 | Paleo | okay thiago |
| 01:49.40 | [sLiM] | is kde-i18n-3.3.91 built around the same time as kdease? |
| 01:49.43 | [sLiM] | **kdebase |
| 01:50.28 | Paleo | thiago , it put "*" in the file |
| 01:50.49 | thiago | sorry, "$@" |
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| 01:53.44 | Paleo | thiago still, it put @ in the file |
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| 01:54.47 | xevious | does anyone know of a good osx theme for window decorations, style, or icons? or all 3, that'd be swell! |
| 01:55.03 | Paleo | baghira for the deco/style |
| 01:55.27 | jcurry | and os-l for icons |
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| 01:56.25 | jcurry | Paleo, my desktop looks awesome |
| 01:58.10 | xevious | baghira is the brushed metal iTunes type look? |
| 01:58.26 | jcurry | it can do stipples too |
| 01:58.37 | xevious | okeedokee |
| 01:58.46 | jcurry | and the windeco is *awesome* |
| 01:58.54 | thiago | Paleo: ok, then remove the "" |
| 01:58.59 | jcurry | and the whole thing is damn customizable |
| 01:59.02 | thiago | what's your shell? |
| 01:59.20 | xevious | now how about an osx dock type thing? |
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| 02:00.48 | DJDiscman | every theme i install it takes me around 30mins to find out how to enable the theme, is there an easier way? |
| 02:01.05 | jcurry | xevious, that is a bit more difficult...try kxdocker, kooldock, ksmoothdock, and kleardock |
| 02:01.36 | Renze | DJDiscman: learn to tell the difference between a theme and a style :) |
| 02:01.55 | DJDiscman | Renze - im going through the howto currently |
| 02:02.04 | Renze | there's a howto? |
| 02:02.14 | DJDiscman | kde-look.org |
| 02:02.25 | jcurry | lol |
| 02:02.30 | DJDiscman | trying to figuer out how to enable mtaskbar v2 |
| 02:03.01 | DJDiscman | if it compiled ok, it should be compatible with kde 3.3 shouldn't it not? |
| 02:03.05 | Renze | DJDiscman: right click on panel, select Add -> Applet -> Taskbar v2 |
| 02:04.22 | DJDiscman | Renze- where did you find that information? |
| 02:04.43 | Renze | DJDiscman: I didn't find it anywhere... I just figure stuff out |
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| 02:06.33 | Renze | DJDiscman: it could be that I've been using KDE since version 1.1.2 |
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| 02:07.35 | DJDiscman | could be :) |
| 02:07.51 | nny | hello |
| 02:07.54 | eliasp | what's mtaskbar2 ? |
| 02:07.59 | can|makan | ullo Renze :) |
| 02:08.02 | illogic-al | hohoho fair people |
| 02:08.05 | nny | can anyone help me witha konqueror problem? |
| 02:08.05 | Renze | hey can|makan :) |
| 02:08.23 | illogic-al | nny, whas your prob sonny? |
| 02:08.46 | can|makan | hey hey :) |
| 02:08.58 | can|makan | aseigo: makan = eat. I was at lunch |
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| 02:09.35 | nny | illigic-al: I'm danny not sonny lol |
| 02:09.49 | nny | illigic-al: my problem is that I mount some partitions |
| 02:09.54 | illogic-al | ah. da nny it is |
| 02:10.20 | nny | illigic-al: but when i try to acces them with konqueror it tells me that I cannot enter that folder |
| 02:10.36 | nny | illigic-al: but with the console i can enter them with no prob |
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| 02:10.57 | illogic-al | are you logged in as root in the console? |
| 02:11.02 | illogic-al | nny |
| 02:11.19 | nny | illigic-al: yes |
| 02:11.40 | DJDiscman | Renze - know how to bring down the transparency? |
| 02:11.42 | illogic-al | okie dokie |
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| 02:12.02 | thiago | nny: can you enter the mountpoints as a standard user? |
| 02:12.09 | illogic-al | nny, what you need to do is allow normal users to enter the directory |
| 02:12.10 | Renze | DJDiscman: this applet has a minor bug... you'll need to do "dcop kicker kicker restart" before the options appear |
| 02:12.28 | illogic-al | nny, thiago will now take over :-) |
| 02:12.36 | DJDiscman | how in the world did you know that? |
| 02:12.36 | [sLiM] | how do i change the login manager interface? |
| 02:12.36 | DJDiscman | kk |
| 02:12.48 | thiago | illogic-al: no I won't. I'll go have a shower now :) |
| 02:13.00 | illogic-al | bastard! |
| 02:13.00 | DJDiscman | ERROR: Couldn't attach to DCOP server! |
| 02:13.06 | illogic-al | ok. i'm back. |
| 02:13.19 | Renze | DJDiscman: ok, you have bigger problems |
| 02:13.29 | nny | thiago: in the console? I never enter in the console as standard user but I'll try |
| 02:13.30 | DJDiscman | Renze - k, thanks bud :) |
| 02:14.59 | illogic-al | o_0 |
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| 02:15.02 | nny | ok if I don't enter as root I can't enter the mounted partitions with the console too |
| 02:15.08 | illogic-al | old people on the look! |
| 02:15.12 | illogic-al | awesome! |
| 02:15.40 | gregday | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:16.26 | illogic-al | gregday, i don't get it. |
| 02:16.39 | gregday | illogic-al: look who the envelope is addressed to |
| 02:16.47 | nny | illigic-al: if I don't enter as root I can't enter the partitions wit the console too |
| 02:17.07 | illogic-al | gregday, i see it. |
| 02:17.30 | illogic-al | nny, what you need to do as root, is to allow normal users to enter the directory |
| 02:17.45 | illogic-al | nny, sooo, how new are you to linux? |
| 02:17.49 | nny | illigic-al: and how I do it? |
| 02:17.59 | nny | illigic-al I'm just doing the fist steps |
| 02:18.28 | illogic-al | ah. i see. i get my very own newb to play with :-D |
| 02:18.35 | nny | illigic-al: I can manage my grafic drivers, upgrade and update the system and add kernenls... not much more |
| 02:18.49 | illogic-al | nny, http://www.geocities.com/tipsforlinux/articles/032-1.html |
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| 02:19.15 | illogic-al | I'm kinda busy atm but that site should point you in the right direction |
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| 02:19.24 | illogic-al | we've been flashed o_0 |
| 02:20.26 | nny | illigic-al: ok, I'll ask if I have any doubt, Thanks for everything n_n |
| 02:25.59 | JacobBrown | btw, is this channel good for asking kde development questions? |
| 02:26.33 | thiago | JacobBrown: #kde-devel |
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| 02:33.09 | nny | illogic-al: i do "ls /mnt/hda1" |
| 02:33.19 | nny | hmm |
| 02:33.39 | nny | some one can help me with the file permissions? |
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| 02:35.40 | Eagle101 | can someone tell me the address where i can install kde 3.4 beta 1 thru CVS? |
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| 02:37.47 | illogic-al | someone said something to me before I left... |
| 02:37.51 | illogic-al | missed it. |
| 02:38.56 | illogic-al | maple froze my 'puter. |
| 02:39.34 | illogic-al | I hate maple so much already, but this just makes the bond between us deeper. |
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| 02:41.21 | snugglemonkey | illogic-al: maple? as in the math application? |
| 02:41.35 | illogic-al | snugglemonkey, aye. |
| 02:41.41 | snugglemonkey | NICE. |
| 02:41.48 | snugglemonkey | I didn't know that was still around. |
| 02:41.54 | snugglemonkey | That program rocked. |
| 02:42.03 | illogic-al | i hate you. |
| 02:42.07 | snugglemonkey | :) |
| 02:42.12 | nny | hey |
| 02:42.13 | illogic-al | feel the love. |
| 02:42.13 | snugglemonkey | Harsh words... |
| 02:42.31 | snugglemonkey | illogic-al: I take it you don't like it so much. |
| 02:42.44 | illogic-al | nah. |
| 02:42.55 | nny | I change the permissions for the mounted partitions |
| 02:42.58 | nny | but nothin |
| 02:43.09 | illogic-al | nny, unmount then remount them |
| 02:43.16 | snugglemonkey | illogic-al: Why are you having so much problems with it? |
| 02:43.22 | nny | I still cant access them with the conueror |
| 02:43.23 | nny | but |
| 02:43.36 | nny | i do ls -l /mnt and tell em the permisions |
| 02:43.41 | nny | I change the permissions |
| 02:43.56 | nny | do again ls -l /mnt |
| 02:43.58 | illogic-al | what command do you use to change the permissions? |
| 02:44.00 | nny | and nothing changes! |
| 02:44.05 | illogic-al | paste it in here, exactly |
| 02:44.08 | nny | chmod |
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| 02:44.17 | nny | it's long |
| 02:44.21 | nny | well I'll paste |
| 02:44.27 | illogic-al | paste it in. yeh |
| 02:44.53 | nny | Navi:/home/nny# chmod 777 /mnt/hda |
| 02:44.53 | nny | chmod: cambiando los permisos de «/mnt/hda»: Sistema de ficheros de sólo lectura |
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| 02:45.21 | illogic-al | is this knoppix |
| 02:45.24 | nny | I'm trying to read an NTFS partition |
| 02:45.29 | nny | no |
| 02:45.33 | nny | I'm in sarge |
| 02:45.54 | illogic-al | nny, what does that error message, translated to english say? |
| 02:46.02 | nny | Navi:/home/nny# chmod 777 /mnt/hda |
| 02:46.02 | nny | chmod: cambiando los permisos de «/mnt/hda»: Sistema de ficheros de sólo lectura |
| 02:46.04 | nny | ooops |
| 02:46.44 | nny | illogic-al: Changing permissions of "/mnt/hda": Read-only filesystem |
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| 02:47.10 | illogic-al | okie dokie. |
| 02:47.24 | nny | Navi:/home/nny# chmod 777 /mnt/hda |
| 02:47.24 | nny | chmod: cambiando los permisos de «/mnt/hda»: Sistema de ficheros de sólo lectura |
| 02:47.24 | illogic-al | nny, unmount the partition, open the file /etc/fstab |
| 02:47.40 | illogic-al | look for the line /mnt/hda |
| 02:47.40 | nny | I modified the fstab before |
| 02:47.51 | nny | ok |
| 02:47.54 | illogic-al | does it say umask=0 in the options section? |
| 02:48.06 | nny | otions is with default |
| 02:48.12 | illogic-al | if not, add it |
| 02:49.18 | illogic-al | hah! Maple 9 I have defeated you. |
| 02:49.29 | nny | illogic-al: the line must be like this? |
| 02:49.34 | Eagle101 | help. i am trying to install kde 3.4 beta thru cvs...but i dont understand when it comes to modules...do i have to download and install each individually or ??? |
| 02:49.38 | nny | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:49.59 | illogic-al | Eagle101, you _have_ to download kdebase and kdelibs and arts |
| 02:50.09 | illogic-al | Eagle101, anything else is up to you |
| 02:50.22 | illogic-al | heheh |
| 02:50.34 | chavo | Eagle101, I recommend using konstruct it does all of the work for you. |
| 02:50.46 | nny | the line must be like this? "/dev/hda1 /mnt/hda ntfs defaults,umask=0 0 0" ?? |
| 02:50.51 | illogic-al | konstruct does only stable builds afiak |
| 02:50.51 | snugglemonkey | illogic-al: if you can figure out a way to use the othe rmode, I am all ears. |
| 02:50.58 | illogic-al | but there is a kdecvs build script |
| 02:51.11 | Eagle101 | illogic-al: sorry for bothering but i am new to cvs...so all i gotta do is cvs co -r kdebase kdelibs arts ??? thats it rigght |
| 02:51.12 | illogic-al | snugglemonkey, lol |
| 02:51.21 | illogic-al | Eagle101, aye |
| 02:51.48 | illogic-al | Eagle101, if you've checked out those modules already then do cvs up to update |
| 02:52.02 | nny | illogic-al? |
| 02:52.06 | snugglemonkey | Eagle101: I followed the cvs walk through at quality.kde.org... It stepped through each command to get CVS HEAD kde up and running. |
| 02:52.17 | illogic-al | nny, I'd remove the defaults |
| 02:52.41 | nny | illogic-al: ok |
| 02:52.43 | Eagle101 | snugglemonkey: thanks |
| 02:52.52 | Eagle101 | chavo: what is konstruct |
| 02:53.31 | chavo | Eagle101, it will download and build kde for you. |
| 02:53.40 | illogic-al | blah. that doesn't look pink |
| 02:53.45 | nny | illogic-al: now save, umount and mount again? |
| 02:53.48 | illogic-al | whoever coded this thing is color blind |
| 02:53.53 | illogic-al | nny, yes |
| 02:53.57 | Eagle101 | chavo: latest build? |
| 02:54.12 | chavo | Eagle101, no just tarballs, 3.4 beta is the latest |
| 02:54.13 | Eagle101 | chavo: kde 3.4 beta |
| 02:54.39 | illogic-al | color=ORANGE also looks nothing like orange... |
| 02:55.13 | chavo | It can also install a bunch of other kde-apps, latest versions of course. |
| 02:55.15 | illogic-al | huzzah! maple hw is done. |
| 02:55.35 | chavo | I used it to upgrade to 3.4, but now I'm running cvs HEAD from yestersday |
| 02:55.53 | illogic-al | Eagle101, http://grammarian.homelinux.net/kdecvs-build/ |
| 02:56.47 | snugglemonkey | illogic-al: Where did you end up finding maple for linux? |
| 02:56.59 | illogic-al | if you want beta use what chavo suggests, if you want cvs continue what you're doing or try that script. |
| 02:57.10 | illogic-al | snugglemonkey, someone gave it to me. |
| 02:57.21 | illogic-al | snugglemonkey, but this is the win version |
| 02:57.24 | snugglemonkey | nice, I want your friends. |
| 02:57.36 | chavo | Eagle101, cvs compiles fine for me and has been very stable |
| 02:57.42 | illogic-al | snugglemonkey, you can have me instead :-) |
| 02:57.57 | Renze | get a room, you two :) |
| 02:59.32 | illogic-al | Renze, don't go getting all jealous. you had your chance. |
| 02:59.38 | Renze | illogic-al: and as I said last time... thanks for the offer, but my door don't swing that way :) |
| 02:59.48 | nny | illogic-al: I tried umounting and mounting again after having modified the /etc/fstab but I still cannot acces.. or it's now when I hace to change the permissions? |
| 03:00.04 | illogic-al | lol |
| 03:00.21 | Eagle101 | snugglemonkey: do u have an specific for that walk-through |
| 03:00.29 | illogic-al | nny, yep |
| 03:00.37 | snugglemonkey | Eagle101: i'll go and grab it right quick. |
| 03:00.43 | illogic-al | although i didn't have to... |
| 03:00.51 | nny | illogic-al it tells me the same error message |
| 03:00.55 | illogic-al | then again different distro |
| 03:01.51 | snugglemonkey | Eagle101: http://quality.kde.org/develop/cvsguide/ |
| 03:02.16 | nny | what may I do now? |
| 03:02.29 | nny | i modified the fstab with the vim that's correct? |
| 03:02.30 | illogic-al | nny, it's probably a good time to risk going into #debian or #linux or both of those now. |
| 03:02.39 | nny | ok |
| 03:02.40 | nny | thanks |
| 03:02.49 | nny | for everything ^^ |
| 03:04.37 | Eagle101 | snugglemonkey: which step do u use...easy or? |
| 03:04.55 | snugglemonkey | I used the easy, but I end up doing it the hard way soemtimes. |
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| 03:07.56 | f00f | hi |
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| 03:11.40 | f00f | im trying to compile an app i made and i get this undefined reference to `KURLRequester::KURLRequester(QWidget*, char const*)' |
| 03:12.03 | f00f | .. does KURLRequester reside in another lib? |
| 03:12.30 | PhantomsDad | #include <kurlrequestor.h> |
| 03:13.26 | f00f | its there |
| 03:15.14 | PhantomsDad | LDFLAGS = $(all_libraries) |
| 03:16.23 | Eagle101 | snugglemonkey: u there for some help? |
| 03:16.43 | snugglemonkey | Eagle101: I will try. |
| 03:17.45 | Eagle101 | snugglemonkey: i did the export thhing and logged in the cvs...now its saying to download "cvs co arts kdelibs" is that it or? |
| 03:19.02 | snugglemonkey | no. |
| 03:19.10 | snugglemonkey | I think you need, also, kdebase |
| 03:19.23 | snugglemonkey | Those three are the minimum. |
| 03:19.30 | snugglemonkey | Start with those, and you can add more later. |
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| 03:19.52 | Eagle101 | snugglemonkey: ok, but whats the command...cvs co -r kdebase arts kdelibs or? |
| 03:20.23 | snugglemonkey | if you are connected to CVS, and you are in the directory that you want the resulting kdelibs to exist, you can just... |
| 03:20.32 | snugglemonkey | cvs co kdelibs |
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| 03:21.14 | snugglemonkey | You can do more than one, but for now, just do each independantly. |
| 03:22.16 | Eagle101 | but how does this whole thing know that i am trying to install kde 3.4 beta? i think i have to put kdebase BRANCH or something? |
| 03:22.41 | snugglemonkey | It is pulling the bleeding edge. |
| 03:22.48 | snugglemonkey | I assumed you wanted CVS |
| 03:22.57 | Eagle101 | yup...kde 3.4 cvs |
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| 03:23.17 | Oleg_ | hi |
| 03:23.21 | snugglemonkey | Ok. If you want Beta, you can use contruct, I believe. |
| 03:24.02 | Eagle101 | snugglemonkey: "The various KDE modules have tags so it is possible to get a specifc release of KDE. Most KDE modules, apart from arts and kdeextragear-1 and kdeextragear-2, have a tag name in the format KDE_X_Y_Z_RELEASE (where X, Y and Z represent the exact version)" i think i can install beta also |
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| 03:37.31 | Eagle101 | help. what does this mean "cvs co -r KDE_3_4_0_BETA_1 |
| 03:37.31 | Eagle101 | cvs [checkout aborted]: must specify at least one module or directory" what should i do? |
| 03:38.09 | grepper | it means you need to specify a module |
| 03:38.23 | grepper | like "kdelibs" etc |
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| 03:38.55 | Eagle101 | grepper: i already did kdelibs and arts |
| 03:38.59 | grepper | all you have said is what tag you want |
| 03:39.06 | grepper | so checkout something else :) |
| 03:39.23 | Eagle101 | grepper: so i do cvs co -r KDE_3_4_0_BETA_1 kdebase ??? |
| 03:39.33 | grepper | sounds like a plan |
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| 03:39.48 | psycho | ok.. |
| 03:40.17 | [sLiM] | exit |
| 03:40.25 | Eagle101 | grepper: wow but i didnt do that for my kdelibs and arts...i only did cvs co kdelibs...am i in trouble? lol |
| 03:40.47 | snugglemonkey | Eagle101: you got CVS head for the other two. |
| 03:40.53 | snugglemonkey | Not beta |
| 03:40.53 | grepper | Eagle101: if you don't specify, you get HEAD |
| 03:41.24 | grepper | this doesn't work in other areas of life btw :P |
| 03:41.51 | Eagle101 | grepper: so can I overwrite and do cvs co -r KDE_3_4_0_BETA_1 kdelibs and arts...or isnt necessary |
| 03:42.22 | f00f | heh |
| 03:42.24 | grepper | if you want KDE_3_4_0_BETA_1 you should remove arts and kdelibs |
| 03:42.26 | f00f | 3.4 looks sweet |
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| 03:44.09 | Eagle101 | grepper: ok i really want kde 3.4 beta...all i did was export CVSROOT=:pserver:anonymous@anoncvs.kde.org:/home/kde and cvs login...then i did cvs co kdelibs and cvs co arts...then i did cvs co -r KDE_3_4_0_BETA_1 kdebase ??? did i do anything wrong? |
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| 03:45.13 | grepper | yes, as we told you |
| 03:45.33 | grepper | you got HEAD for arts and kdelibs, and KDE_3_4_0_BETA_1 for kdebase |
| 03:46.10 | Eagle101 | grepper: so i need to do all of them... cvs co -r KDE_3_4_0_BETA_1 kdebase kdelibs arts right... |
| 03:46.16 | grepper | yes |
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| 03:48.02 | Eagle101 | grepper: thanks |
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| 03:55.19 | Eagle101 | grepper: when i start to compile, i have to cd to each directorys "admin" and execute the commands right...? |
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| 03:59.07 | Eagle101 | grepper: u there? |
| 03:59.43 | snugglemonkey | Eagle101: are you going to use this as an install for others, or just one user? |
| 04:00.22 | Eagle101 | snugglemonkey: one user...i am supposed to run make -f Makefile.cvs |
| 04:00.36 | Eagle101 | but it gives an error...i am doing something wrong |
| 04:01.19 | snugglemonkey | Eagle, have you made certain that you have all of the prequisites for builing the packages? |
| 04:01.28 | snugglemonkey | Also, you will need a new build of QT. |
| 04:02.45 | Eagle101 | snugglemonkey: it says that i can keep my old QT if its updated? |
| 04:02.58 | snugglemonkey | as long as it is the right version. |
| 04:03.02 | Eagle101 | ;) |
| 04:03.24 | Eagle101 | I so Love Linux-Debian |
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| 04:09.24 | Eagle101 | ironfroggy: make ur mind ;) |
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| 04:12.35 | funky | hi |
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| 04:12.41 | Eagle101 | hi funky |
| 04:12.50 | funky | lo Eagle101 |
| 04:14.18 | Eagle101 | funky: u know anything about cvs ? |
| 04:14.21 | Adylas | Hello, got little question. Got some headatch whit window. Can we base Windows specific rules on window type ? (Like, I want all window "Normal type" remember posistion .. How we can do that ? Thanks. |
| 04:14.57 | funky | Eagle101: Im studing, sorry, but i have an exam in a few hours :) |
| 04:15.47 | funky | Eagle101: you can try in #cvs |
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| 04:22.26 | Eagle101 | help. when i compile using cvs. i can run make -f Makefile.cvs under kdelibs directory, but it wont let me run make -f Makefile.cvs under arts nor kdesupport..why? |
| 04:23.31 | snugglemonkey | Eagle101: is there a difference in how the files were recieved from CVS? |
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| 04:23.45 | Pupeno | Hello |
| 04:23.47 | Pupeno | How do I get my DVD/CD-RW device to be listed on k3b ? it's not listed on any dialog where reader/writters are listed and when I press burn, k3b crashes. |
| 04:23.48 | Eagle101 | i never thought o fit |
| 04:23.52 | Eagle101 | of it* |
| 04:24.31 | Eagle101 | Pupeno. go to #k3b they will help you more ;) |
| 04:24.33 | snugglemonkey | Pupeno: it looks like the gurus are all asleep. lol |
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| 04:46.43 | oneforall | ok why is arts not working with alsa with full duplex for recording from line-in ? does with oss and esd but then I have to disable arts to use audacity. which I see now works with out arts at all to record from line-in.krec play through works but doesn't record at all. auacity it does record. very niosey and crackly. |
| 04:47.19 | oneforall | want to know how to get it all to work with arts so all the apps work nicely :) |
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| 04:56.52 | f00f | can someone compile reaktivate for me? :( |
| 04:56.59 | f00f | aclocal dosent like it |
| 04:58.29 | f00f | n/m |
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| 05:10.42 | oneforall | reaktivate whats that ? |
| 05:10.57 | oneforall | userland whats userland ? |
| 05:11.14 | oneforall | that just me users and simple gui :0 |
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| 05:24.33 | Leviathann | Hey guys, what would you trust for showing cpu loads? ps aux in terminal or a KDE system monitor? |
| 05:24.57 | snugglemonkey | I like gkrellm or... better... superkaramba |
| 05:25.12 | mobtek | or top -c in konsole :) |
| 05:26.10 | slayerbob | top gets my vote :) |
| 05:27.21 | snugglemonkey | hah, you guys are hardcore. |
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| 05:46.56 | snugglemonkey | VNC is not a window manager, per se. |
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| 05:47.14 | illogic-al | vnc is not a window manager at all |
| 05:47.22 | snugglemonkey | It just spits the renderings of a window manager to a certain port so you can operate remotely. |
| 05:47.45 | snugglemonkey | in the user's dir, type vncserver --help |
| 05:51.27 | halotron | yeah, but id like to have it as an option... There is remote login in kdm, so then why not vnc also |
| 05:52.26 | snugglemonkey | VNC is just a shell to see a window manager, it's not a window manager. |
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| 05:52.45 | mankeletor | hi all! |
| 05:53.51 | snugglemonkey | hey. |
| 05:54.32 | halotron | yes, i know. I also tried to start some vnc-viewer on :3 or something in paralell to kdm. Didnt get that to work thou, but THAT should be possible |
| 05:55.24 | snugglemonkey | halotron: I believe that the VNC, and anyone is welcome to correct me if I am wrong, is run as a user. |
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| 05:55.50 | snugglemonkey | So, if your KDM has a user account, I suppose it could run vncserver |
| 05:56.42 | halotron | what if the viewer is run as a root? Its just a viewer so shouldnt matter too much, or? |
| 05:56.43 | snugglemonkey | But it wouldn't do you any good, because as the user logs in through KDM, it would go to a new user who hasn't executed vnc, nor would he be listening on the correct screen. |
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| 05:57.56 | Lord-Phoenix | how do i set the bitrate kde rips cds with using audiocd:/ ? |
| 05:58.14 | halotron | gah. ok, thanks for the input, but i have to get it working... i'l go google it |
| 05:58.24 | snugglemonkey | halotron: hold on. |
| 05:58.28 | halotron | ok |
| 05:58.42 | Renze | Lord-Phoenix: kcontrol -> sound and multimedia -> audio cds, check the tabs |
| 05:58.50 | snugglemonkey | halotron: are you set on getting it working as kdm, or as a user? |
| 05:58.55 | snugglemonkey | if it's as a user, it's easy. |
| 05:59.21 | Lord-Phoenix | Renze: did so, but didn't seem to alter things |
| 05:59.29 | Renze | Lord-Phoenix: works fine here |
| 05:59.39 | Lord-Phoenix | hmm, i'll try a kde restart |
| 05:59.44 | halotron | doesnt have to be kdm. kdm can have vt7, and vncviewer vt8, or something. |
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| 06:00.11 | snugglemonkey | halotron: well, usually, as the user, you can go and execute vncserver |
| 06:00.25 | snugglemonkey | it will ask for passwords for the user and/or viewer |
| 06:00.35 | snugglemonkey | it'll tell you the screen number. |
| 06:00.47 | snugglemonkey | THen, you're all set to connect from that same machine, or another one. |
| 06:01.07 | halotron | the server is run on a different computer than this machine... im not following you :-) |
| 06:01.10 | snugglemonkey | but, you should check /home/user/.vnc/ and make sure that it is starting the proper windows manager. |
| 06:01.29 | snugglemonkey | halotron: are you on the client now, or server? |
| 06:01.35 | halotron | on client |
| 06:01.43 | snugglemonkey | do you have access to the server? |
| 06:01.48 | halotron | yep |
| 06:01.53 | snugglemonkey | ssh? telnet? |
| 06:02.05 | halotron | ssh |
| 06:02.19 | snugglemonkey | can you log in as a user and type vncserver? |
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| 06:02.55 | halotron | yup sure |
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| 06:04.33 | snugglemonkey | halotron: what did it output? |
| 06:05.52 | halotron | it starts fine, i can connect and so on. The problem lies in that on the client, the vnc-viewer should display on a vt besides the vt:s that kdm manages (if thats possible) |
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| 06:07.23 | halotron | it would be quite cool... then its possible to have a mobile desktop with X-programs that can continue to run after logout |
| 06:07.39 | snugglemonkey | ah. |
| 06:07.53 | snugglemonkey | halotron: my vnc runs when I'm not connected. |
| 06:08.24 | snugglemonkey | halotron: other than that, I dunno how else to help you. :( |
| 06:08.39 | halotron | thanks anyways |
| 06:08.44 | snugglemonkey | halotron: I use vnc on a server to start programs, I disconnect and come back to check on the compiling. |
| 06:08.59 | snugglemonkey | So, perhaps you are looking for something else. Good luck. :) |
| 06:09.24 | halotron | mmm yeah, thanks |
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| 06:46.14 | setuid_w00t | Hi, I just installed ksvg for debian. According to the package description, there is a standalong svg viewer. Does anyone know what the command is to run it? |
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| 06:47.11 | Leviathann | why do I get root logins not allowed at the kde login screen? |
| 06:47.39 | ag3ntugly | hey guys i ahve a quesion, can you tell me how KDE initializes the sound, when i startx with gnome my sound dont owrk, but if i start kde, it does, and works in gnome from then on |
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| 06:49.08 | ag3ntugly | anyone? |
| 06:49.32 | eille-la | well |
| 06:50.02 | ag3ntugly | does kde start a sound server or adjust the volumes in the mixer? |
| 06:50.16 | eille-la | yes it it arts |
| 06:50.35 | ag3ntugly | thanks |
| 06:50.39 | ag3ntugly | later on |
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| 07:17.36 | kendrick | re |
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| 07:39.57 | marcusU | Is it possible to set the color of tooltip-type backgrounds in KControl Colors? |
| 07:40.43 | marcusU | My background for tooltips it light yellow, and I don't see anything set to that color? |
| 07:42.48 | lauri | it is not configurable |
| 07:43.06 | marcusU | Aw. :-( |
| 07:43.31 | marcusU | I suspected that from what I said above, but it would be nice if it were configurable. |
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| 08:09.30 | spike | hi there |
| 08:09.46 | spike | is there a way to tell kde to open certain applications on certain virtual desktop? |
| 08:10.22 | spike | I can do that with fluxbox, thought that was available in kde too but can't find the way to set it up |
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| 08:18.37 | oneforall | hmm walkman,pocket cassette line in audacity hmmm |
| 08:18.53 | oneforall | hmm slight crackle |
| 08:19.01 | oneforall | cheap wires |
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| 08:34.19 | eille-la | oneforall: tell us more |
| 08:34.57 | oneforall | finally got something to record from line in . :) |
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| 08:46.08 | kendrick | i just downloaded a debian iso and burned it (using Konq... action -> Write CD Image with K3B...), and i cannot mount it now that it's burned :( |
| 08:46.44 | kendrick | i've successfully burned about 50 data CDs using regular files, and they seem to mount just fine :) |
| 08:46.46 | Trevelyan | any messages? (dmesg) |
| 08:47.09 | kendrick | hrmm... |
| 08:47.18 | kendrick | attempt to access beyond end of device; hdc: rw=0, want=68, limit=4; isofs_fill_super: bread failed, dev=hdc, iso_blknum=16, block=16 |
| 08:47.52 | kendrick | oh hey! woah! |
| 08:48.03 | kendrick | i just tried once more, to make sure those msgs were from read, and not write |
| 08:48.09 | kendrick | ... and it looks like it just mounted!? <:^( |
| 08:48.12 | kendrick | wtf!? |
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| 08:48.42 | kendrick | hey, and 'eject' works now :) |
| 08:48.56 | kendrick | i wonder if this sony dvd+-rw is fussy... |
| 08:49.53 | kendrick | well cool |
| 08:49.56 | kendrick | now i can go to bed ;) |
| 08:49.58 | kendrick | g'nite! ;) |
| 08:50.35 | rasput|n | i hate the feeling |
| 08:50.40 | rasput|n | you can't sleep unless you resolve the issue |
| 08:50.43 | kendrick | ;) |
| 08:50.44 | kendrick | totally |
| 08:50.51 | kendrick | well, plus i wanted to burn a deb CD for my coworker |
| 08:51.06 | kendrick | she said her husband's got a spare box lying around and they are considering sticking linux on it |
| 08:51.44 | kendrick | anyway, g'nite ;) |
| 08:51.48 | rasput|n | night |
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| 08:55.17 | rasput|n | moo |
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| 09:02.35 | sredna | Hi * |
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| 09:08.55 | [Aura]kingwanja | i need another distro other than mandrake .. its full of bugs and broken mirrors |
| 09:09.08 | [Aura]kingwanja | any ideas ? |
| 09:09.45 | JacobBrown | debian |
| 09:09.58 | JacobBrown | openbsd |
| 09:10.08 | JacobBrown | solaris |
| 09:14.23 | sredna | Mepis |
| 09:15.01 | sredna | Slackware |
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| 09:15.14 | JacobBrown | wtf mepis? |
| 09:16.17 | sredna | JacobBrown: Mepis is a very nice debian based linux, with KDE as the default DE |
| 09:17.05 | sredna | JacobBrown: Right now, I can't think of a rpm distro that has a unmodified KDE desktop |
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| 09:20.55 | JacobBrown | suse ? |
| 09:21.08 | rombeh | JacobBrown, Slackware! |
| 09:21.34 | JacobBrown | personally, I hate rpm, but if I had to choose, I'd choose suse |
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| 09:36.01 | eille-la | terry james scares me |
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| 09:47.13 | PhilRod | it's hard to tell whether he's a moron or a really good troll or what |
| 09:47.29 | eille-la | he is probably serious |
| 09:49.26 | sredna | Hi PhilRod |
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| 09:54.03 | PhilRod | hiya sredna |
| 09:54.17 | sredna | PhilRod: I wondered where you live? |
| 09:54.31 | sredna | If you'll allow be to be curious |
| 09:54.34 | PhilRod | sredna: UK - Oxford in term time, Cardiff otherwise |
| 09:54.53 | sredna | Thank you |
| 09:55.08 | sredna | Cardiff, that's Wales, isn't it? |
| 09:55.14 | PhilRod | yup |
| 09:55.38 | sredna | A place with a very nice nature |
| 09:55.52 | PhilRod | yeah, I like Cardiff |
| 09:56.59 | PhilRod | why d'you ask? just curious? |
| 09:57.08 | sredna | Yea |
| 09:57.13 | PhilRod | ok :-) |
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| 09:57.29 | sredna | I noticed that you have about similar meal times like me, so I thought you'd be in euope somewhere |
| 09:57.40 | brainZzZ | If the SC let Bush do *ANYTHING* he wanted, I'm sure you'd be interested in how to stop them. |
| 10:00.15 | PhilRod | hmph, time to do some work... |
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| 10:04.49 | ijwyn | hey, anyone know what file Konqueror stores file associations in? |
| 10:05.34 | PhilRod | ~/.kde/share/mimelnk or something, I think |
| 10:05.52 | PhilRod | yeah, that looks like it |
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| 10:13.20 | thiago | ijwyn: $KDEDIRS:$KDEHOME/share/{applications},{applnk},{mimelnk} |
| 10:13.31 | thiago | in other words, many files for each association |
| 10:19.11 | ijwyn | ah I see |
| 10:19.12 | ijwyn | thanks! |
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| 10:24.03 | rabauke | Anyone else experiencing problems with kmail remembering the addresses one has send email to but do not have an addressbook entry? |
| 10:24.34 | krilly | You consider that a problem, rather than a feature? |
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| 10:25.14 | ijwyn | well... when I open those .desktop files in Kwrite I see a bunch of info (like the logo's path, patterns, mime type, etc, but I don't see what I need: the actual app linked to that format! is that info stored somewhere else? |
| 10:26.09 | krilly | Is it true KDE is heavy on the memory, compared to other Window Managers like FluxBox or XFCE? If so, why? |
| 10:26.55 | Renze | KDE is a desktop environment, not a window manager |
| 10:27.08 | ijwyn | more nifty graphics, probably |
| 10:27.25 | krilly | Renze, Sorry yes, that's what I meant. |
| 10:27.34 | ijwyn | I haven't really tried any others aside from Gnome though, so I can't really say... though I didn't really notice any difference with Gnome (memory-wise I mean) |
| 10:27.45 | rabauke | krilly: You could ask the other way around, is it true that FluxBox XFCE and so on lack functionality. |
| 10:27.58 | krilly | They don't :) |
| 10:28.11 | rabauke | krilly: I tried them, they do |
| 10:28.14 | Renze | sure they do... there's lots of stuff under KDE users rarely see |
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| 10:28.49 | krilly | Oh so you mean KDE comes with more apps than them? Apps you can download and install anyway? |
| 10:29.25 | krilly | I managed to run KMail, Konsole and others under Flux. I just like KDE's nice GFX and feel |
| 10:29.29 | Renze | krilly: no, there's more to it than that... there's dcop, there's kparts, there's app integration... |
| 10:29.44 | rabauke | krilly: No I mean everything, and how it's working together. |
| 10:29.53 | krilly | AH I see. |
| 10:29.55 | Renze | krilly: but feel free to use fluxbox if you want... we're not forcing you to use KDE |
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| 10:30.13 | krilly | No not at all. Flux and other alike did feel very bare. |
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| 10:32.30 | rabauke | krilly: Yet there are quite a few things were KDE could be made quicker and more responsive, no doubt. |
| 10:33.04 | ijwyn | so can someone tell me where is stored the information about which apps are linked to which file type? anyone know? |
| 10:35.30 | krilly | rabauke, Why isn't it done? |
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| 10:38.53 | rabauke | krilly: I guess because it takes a lot of effort to program things in a threaded way, e.g. kmail's blocking filtering. For some smaller things there seems to be a "priority-problem". ;) For example, if you copy 100 files from an ftp-server using konqueror, it counts the files one by one in order to get the total number for the progress bar. Instead one could simply take the information already displayed in the GUI, i.e. number of files selec |
| 10:39.06 | thiago | ijwyn: I have answered. |
| 10:39.15 | thiago | ijwyn: $KDEDIRS:$KDEHOME/share/{applications},{applnk},{mimelnk} |
| 10:39.46 | krilly | rabauke, Yes that is a silly way of doing things. |
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| 10:40.37 | ijwyn | thiago: that only shows stuff like mimetype, logo path, etc, it doesn't actually give me the names of the linked apps |
| 10:41.35 | thiago | Each app .desktop says the MIME types it can handle |
| 10:42.12 | thiago | I'm trying to find the file that stores the order |
| 10:42.43 | sredna | thiago: Yea, that's the mystery part :o |
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| 10:43.25 | ijwyn | thiago: yeah, but that doesn't really help me... to give you a better idea, my problem is that I add an app to use when I click on a certain type of file, but sometimes this association disappear and I have to set it up again... so if I can find the file that holds this information, I can just make a backup copy and put it back in the right place when it gets messed up, you know what I mean? |
| 10:44.08 | ijwyn | it'd be easier then having to redo the 4 or 5 file associations that keep getting screwed up |
| 10:44.46 | krilly | rabauke, Have you ever done any development for KDE at all? Does it have to be done in C++? |
| 10:44.55 | krilly | I'd preafir C you see. |
| 10:45.07 | krilly | No pun intended there. |
| 10:45.39 | thiago | ijwyn: the file that holds the association is your application's .desktop file |
| 10:46.08 | rabauke | krilly: No, unfortunately not. Yet, as far a I know KDE is programmed using QT, which is based on C++. But you would have to ask others to get any detail, sorry. |
| 10:46.45 | krilly | Ah. I'm looking to develop hopefully. I don't really know C++ though... or like it. |
| 10:47.13 | lippel | krilly: use the ruby bindings ;-) |
| 10:47.21 | krilly | Say what now? |
| 10:47.31 | ijwyn | hmmmm... what if the app in question doesn't have a .desktop file? I wonder if that's why it keeps getting screwed up |
| 10:47.42 | thiago | ijwyn: then one is created |
| 10:47.57 | thiago | every app that has an association must be in the menu |
| 10:48.03 | ijwyn | how? I've been using these apps for a long time, and I'm not finding a .desktop for them |
| 10:48.39 | ijwyn | well, the menu is another thing that keeps getting screwed up... I've edited it several times, and everytime there's a crash or a simple reboot it tends to revert back to before my changes |
| 10:49.05 | ijwyn | I'm sure the two problems must be linked, likely something to do with these .desktop files... |
| 10:49.52 | thiago | ijwyn: in applnk or ~/.local/share/applications/ |
| 10:51.00 | ijwyn | the first is empty, the second only has one .desktop, and not for any of the apps I need :-o |
| 10:51.21 | ijwyn | the only .desktop's I have are in applnk-mdk and apps |
| 10:51.39 | ijwyn | er, not apps, mimelnk |
| 10:52.28 | PhilRod | is there anything relevant in .config or .local? |
| 10:53.30 | thiago | according to the widget code I'm reading, you can only associate the MIME types to a .desktop file |
| 10:55.02 | PhilRod | ijwyn: the appropriate .desktop files for your own apps might be in ~/.local/share/applications |
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| 10:55.32 | ijwyn | I think that explains the problem... I'm gonna try making the appropraite .desktop files manually as they don't seem to be generated automatically for some reason |
| 10:55.59 | ijwyn | that folder only has the firefox .desktop in it, thiago, which is not what I need |
| 10:57.33 | thiago | I'd be happy to help you investigate, but I have to go now |
| 10:57.33 | thiago | good luck |
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| 10:59.09 | ijwyn | oh god I found them... they are in /.kde/share/applnk-mdk/.hidden |
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| 10:59.24 | ijwyn | why would they be in there? and what does the .hidden thing mean? |
| 11:04.58 | sredna | Mandrake.. they do weird stuff to KDE |
| 11:05.20 | thiago | it means they don't show in your menu |
| 11:06.47 | ijwyn | ok, that makes sense |
| 11:09.07 | mobtek | ijwyn: thats where the config stuff goes :) |
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| 11:15.36 | snugglemonkey | anyone with difficulties building kdebase this morning? |
| 11:15.38 | slackd00d | i did yesturday...turned out to be bad ram |
| 11:15.59 | slackd00d | took 1 stick out.worked fine |
| 11:16.41 | snugglemonkey | i wish mine were bad ram. :( |
| 11:16.59 | slackd00d | i kept getting seg faults at diffrent points |
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| 11:20.36 | snugglemonkey | slackd00d: my error building base is on kbookmarkmerger for konq. |
| 11:20.47 | PhilRod | snugglemonkey: what's the error? |
| 11:20.58 | PhilRod | kbookmarkmerger is new, so it could possibly have problems |
| 11:21.26 | PhilRod | if so, we can all go beat up frerich |
| 11:21.31 | snugglemonkey | maybe i should find a way to comment that stuff out. |
| 11:22.41 | PhilRod | you could modify SUBDIRS in an appropriate Makefile.am |
| 11:22.51 | PhilRod | talk, or 'wall', I think |
| 11:23.20 | PhilRod | wall sends to everyone, and I think it needs root |
| 11:23.47 | PhilRod | snugglemonkey: you did update kdelibs, right? |
| 11:24.06 | snugglemonkey | yep, it was a checkout from last night around 4am est |
| 11:25.53 | PhilRod | possibly you just chose a bad time to checkout, since frerich was doing a lot of committing on that area |
| 11:26.07 | PhilRod | (what's EST compared to GMT?) |
| 11:26.14 | Trevelyan | echo "message" | wrtie [username] for specific, pipe to wall for all |
| 11:26.20 | snugglemonkey | EST +5 gmt |
| 11:26.27 | Trevelyan | requires recipiant have "mesg y" set |
| 11:26.43 | Trevelyan | *write |
| 11:27.16 | PhilRod | snugglemonkey: what's the error? |
| 11:27.36 | snugglemonkey | trying to paste now... |
| 11:32.18 | snugglemonkey | PhilRod: http://pastebin.com/236145 is the specific region/error text |
| 11:35.21 | PhilRod | try 'cvs up' in kdelibs - does it change anything in kio/kbookmark? |
| 11:36.07 | snugglemonkey | PhilRod: I will go try. Little clumsy, my eyes are not awake yet. :) |
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| 11:38.35 | snugglemonkey | PhilRod: There were several changes, not of them looked to be related to the bookmark. One on docbook (M) and the rest were (P) on "kdm" |
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| 11:40.37 | PhilRod | snugglemonkey: hrm, there was a commit two days ago to kbookmark.h, which added the functions that you're missing |
| 11:40.42 | PhilRod | are you using a cvs mirror? |
| 11:41.22 | snugglemonkey | PhilRod: http://pastebin.com/236149 |
| 11:41.22 | PhilRod | btw, M in cvs output means you've modified the local version of something. Have you done that in the docbook stuff? |
| 11:41.57 | PhilRod | no, cvs up in *kdelibs* :-) |
| 11:42.04 | PhilRod | (you did it in base) |
| 11:42.26 | PhilRod | oh, I don't think that M is anything to worry about |
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| 11:43.16 | snugglemonkey | PhilRod: currently cvs up in kdelibs |
| 11:45.17 | PhilRod | when I said, " you did update kdelibs, right?", for 'update' read 'update, build and install' |
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| 11:46.49 | snugglemonkey | PhilRod: I actually deleted all of the directories last night, and did a fresh co. |
| 11:47.05 | snugglemonkey | PhilRod: including killing my logs dir, and the build directory. |
| 11:47.10 | PhilRod | and then you built and installed kdelibs? |
| 11:47.34 | snugglemonkey | I built arts, then it built kdelib, failed at kdebase as mentioned. |
| 11:47.44 | PhilRod | hrm |
| 11:48.13 | snugglemonkey | hey, it's not the biggest deal, if no one else is having this problem, then it is obviously me. |
| 11:48.55 | snugglemonkey | The only updates in libs were (P) kate/part/kdatedialogs.cpp and related files. |
| 11:50.12 | PhilRod | do: grep 'metaDataItem' $KDEDIR/include/kbookmark.h. Does it return anything? |
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| 11:50.38 | snugglemonkey | kdedev@dually:~/src/kde/kdelibs>grep 'metaDataItem' $KDEDIR/include/kbookmark.h |
| 11:50.39 | PhilRod | and then do the same grep on kdelibs/kio/bookmarks/kbookmark.h |
| 11:51.36 | snugglemonkey | nothing for the first |
| 11:52.02 | snugglemonkey | kdedev@dually:~/src/kde/kdelibs>grep 'metaDataItem' kdelibs/kio/bookmarks/kbookmark.h |
| 11:52.02 | snugglemonkey | grep: kdelibs/kio/bookmarks/kbookmark.h: No such file or directory |
| 11:52.08 | Originoo | hey, how can i fix the image-preview bug in konqueror-3.3.2 ? everytime i change the option of image- size for previewin konqueror don't preview images smaller them 1mb too. |
| 11:52.23 | brainZzZ | ho can tell me what is the size for each cd of Mandrakelinux 10.0 Official PowerPack (6 CD)? |
| 11:52.59 | snugglemonkey | brainZzZ: you might want to check #mandrake for that one |
| 11:53.08 | brainZzZ | you might want to have as few apps running as possible |
| 11:53.46 | PhilRod | snugglemonkey: you'll need to issue that command in the right directory |
| 11:53.59 | PhilRod | 'cd ..' then run it again |
| 11:54.15 | snugglemonkey | kdedev@dually:~/src/kde>grep 'metaDataItem' kdelibs/kio/bookmarks/kbookmark.h |
| 11:54.15 | snugglemonkey | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:54.34 | snugglemonkey | kdedev@dually:~/src/kde>grep 'metaDataItem' $KDEDIR/include/kbookmark.h |
| 11:54.40 | Originoo | or plz just tell me which file i can delete instead of the whole ~.kde3.3 dir |
| 11:55.18 | PhilRod | Originoo: ~/.kde/share/config would be the first place to look I guess |
| 11:55.40 | Originoo | PhilRod: thx, i check it out |
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| 11:56.31 | PhilRod | snugglemonkey: so the versions aren't in sync. Try building kdelibs again (or if you're lazy, 'make install' in kdelibs/kio/bookmarks/ - but it might not work) |
| 11:56.59 | snugglemonkey | PhilRod: do you think it is my mirror choice? |
| 11:57.01 | PhilRod | snugglemonkey: it's possible that it's not getting installed for some reason - I'm just running a kdelibs build now to check |
| 11:57.03 | PhilRod | snugglemonkey: no |
| 11:57.15 | PhilRod | tbh, I think you haven't built and installed kdelibs correctly |
| 11:57.25 | snugglemonkey | PhilRod: allrighty then. :) |
| 11:57.26 | PhilRod | s/correctly/at all/ perhaps |
| 11:58.38 | PhilRod | remember, you must always update and isntall kdelibs each time you want to update any other packages |
| 11:59.23 | snugglemonkey | PhilRod: good input. I will rebuild from scratch again. The log for kdelibs shows a successful install however. |
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| 12:25.47 | sarah03 | Hm. |
| 12:26.07 | sredna | Hi sarah03 :) |
| 12:26.15 | sarah03 | 'ello |
| 12:26.16 | sarah03 | :) |
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| 12:50.15 | anis | heya all! |
| 12:50.18 | anis | greetings =)) |
| 12:52.25 | sarah03 | 'ello |
| 12:52.26 | sarah03 | :) |
| 12:53.12 | anis | kakak sarah03 !! |
| 12:53.15 | anis | how ya doing ? |
| 12:53.49 | sarah03 | Vaguely bored, actually. |
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| 12:54.14 | sarah03 | Got a CMS that I should be busy writing, but I'm not in the right mood to do so at the moment. |
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| 12:59.30 | anis | sarah03: what is CMS ? |
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| 12:59.41 | sarah03 | anis: "Content Management System" |
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| 13:01.13 | anis | owh |
| 13:01.33 | bietch | sarah03: can i knowm my IP using the terminal ? |
| 13:01.37 | bietch | *know |
| 13:02.34 | sarah03 | bietch: /sbin/ifconfig |
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| 13:02.53 | sarah03 | Of course, since you're on IRC, you could just do a /whois on yourself, too. |
| 13:03.18 | slayerbob | heh |
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| 13:07.34 | bietch | sarah03: i know that..i want another way to know my IP if im not using irc |
| 13:07.46 | sarah03 | bietch: Look at the output of ifconfig. |
| 13:08.24 | bietch | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:08.40 | bietch | inet addr is my IP right ? |
| 13:09.05 | sarah03 | Yes. |
| 13:09.17 | bietch | thanks kak sarah03 ! |
| 13:09.23 | sarah03 | :) |
| 13:09.24 | sarah03 | *hugs* |
| 13:09.33 | bietch | ar...sweetie one |
| 13:09.38 | bietch | where is canllaith and Renze ? |
| 13:09.45 | bietch | damn..i miss them |
| 13:09.49 | sarah03 | Not seen either of them about tonight... |
| 13:10.01 | anis[x] | owhh..canllaith fly to wellington..i see |
| 13:10.11 | anis[x] | bur[n]er ? |
| 13:10.16 | bur[n]er | just curious ;) |
| 13:10.27 | anis[x] | bur[n]er: curious of what ? |
| 13:10.29 | bur[n]er | my whois doesn't show an inet addr |
| 13:10.36 | anis[x] | hmm.. |
| 13:10.39 | bur[n]er | curious what irc app you use |
| 13:10.53 | anis[x] | bur[n]er: so do u know what irc app im using now ? |
| 13:10.59 | bur[n]er | i don't |
| 13:11.04 | anis[x] | bur[n]er: im USING M I R C |
| 13:11.05 | anis[x] | lol~ |
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| 13:11.15 | anis[x] | bur[n]er: x-chat |
| 13:11.17 | bur[n]er | aww |
| 13:11.34 | flosch | hi |
| 13:11.40 | anis[x] | heya flosch |
| 13:11.46 | bur[n]er | xchat in kde ;) |
| 13:11.46 | bur[n]er | hehe |
| 13:12.39 | bur[n]er | aww |
| 13:12.46 | bur[n]er | i'm curious... what distro? |
| 13:12.53 | anis[x] | bur[n]er: fedora core released 3 |
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| 13:13.11 | anis[x] | fedora is made from NZ right ? |
| 13:13.20 | bur[n]er | it is? |
| 13:13.35 | anis[x] | im not sure..but many people its from NZ |
| 13:13.50 | anis[x] | bur[n]er: what distro are you using ? Slackware ? |
| 13:13.56 | bur[n]er | naw |
| 13:14.11 | bur[n]er | that was my first distro way back |
| 13:14.31 | bur[n]er | it's kanotix/morphix/debian mostly |
| 13:14.51 | bur[n]er | started out morphix with a kanotix kernel, and debian unstable packages |
| 13:15.02 | brainZzZ | PORT ORANGE, Fla. (AP) - A man hit his girlfriend with a 3-foot alligator and threw beer bottles at her during an argument in the couple's mobile home, authorities said. |
| 13:15.35 | anis[x] | bur[n]er: using linux for many years ? |
| 13:15.52 | bur[n]er | umm... about 6-7 |
| 13:16.01 | bur[n]er | er... maybe less |
| 13:16.17 | bur[n]er | slackware 7 though :) |
| 13:16.47 | anis[x] | arr.. |
| 13:16.59 | anis[x] | ihiks :)) |
| 13:17.32 | bur[n]er | well right on |
| 13:17.39 | bur[n]er | working well for ya? |
| 13:17.52 | anis[x] | bur[n]er: linux is nightmare for newbie |
| 13:17.57 | bur[n]er | aww |
| 13:18.02 | bur[n]er | why? |
| 13:18.16 | anis[x] | in 6 months , i re-install my fedora for 3 times |
| 13:18.25 | bur[n]er | what problems are you having? |
| 13:18.35 | anis[x] | 1 months ago , i run local exploit on my fedora..i dont know what is local exploit and i just run it |
| 13:18.36 | bur[n]er | display? sound? network? applications? upgrading? |
| 13:18.48 | anis[x] | bur[n]er: its about local exploit |
| 13:19.06 | bur[n]er | weird |
| 13:19.06 | anis[x] | the exploit damaged my init script |
| 13:19.20 | bur[n]er | don't run stupid stuff! |
| 13:19.21 | bur[n]er | heh |
| 13:19.31 | anis[x] | yes..im stupid on linux.. |
| 13:19.31 | bur[n]er | ever try ubuntu? or kanotix? |
| 13:19.32 | anis[x] | sighs |
| 13:19.47 | anis[x] | not yet..i want familiar with one distro first..and proceed to another distro |
| 13:19.48 | bur[n]er | actually... ubuntu is probably easier, but not as featureful |
| 13:19.57 | brainZzZ | bur[n]er: Before the US was bad, but not as bad as Saddam. |
| 13:19.58 | bur[n]er | i would say ditch fedora ;) |
| 13:20.04 | anis[x] | i found mandrake 10.1 like windowsXP |
| 13:20.10 | bur[n]er | brainZzZ: ? |
| 13:20.13 | brainZzZ | bur[n]er, next wintertime |
| 13:20.19 | anis[x] | ar wait..on call |
| 13:20.20 | anis[x] | brb |
| 13:21.40 | bur[n]er | anis[x]: i would totally say ditch any rpm based distros ;) |
| 13:21.58 | bur[n]er | no suse, mandrake, fedora, etc |
| 13:22.18 | bur[n]er | i prefer .deb |
| 13:22.27 | bur[n]er | but anything that has easy updating would help i bet |
| 13:22.42 | bur[n]er | kanotix is a livecd, so you don't have to install it.. you can just boot the cd and it loads a full desktop |
| 13:22.50 | brainZzZ | bur[n]er: it loads alle the mp3 in that particular folder |
| 13:22.53 | bur[n]er | morphix is coming along too, but not complete yet |
| 13:23.19 | bur[n]er | brainZzZ: excuse me, but wtf? |
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| 13:34.12 | anis[x] | hmm..anyone here is expert with mplayer or xine ? |
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| 13:40.13 | ALei | are ammonium compounds blue? |
| 13:40.36 | ALei | ammonia compounds i mean. |
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| 13:40.59 | snugglemonkey | ALei: that's a neat question for the KDE question |
| 13:42.47 | ALei | because windex is blue, and i am wondering what is making this specialized cleaner i have seen a light blue. |
| 13:44.11 | snugglemonkey | ALei: Have you tried a channel like #chemistry? |
| 13:44.21 | ALei | dead |
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| 13:44.36 | ALei | how can someone operate linux and not know something basic like i ask? |
| 13:44.37 | illissius- | is there any way to tell kate to use 'normal' indentation *always*, even if I happen to have a C/C++ file open? |
| 13:45.02 | ALei | over 100 linux operators here you see |
| 13:45.19 | snugglemonkey | ALei: you operate linux? |
| 13:45.28 | ALei | no |
| 13:46.22 | snugglemonkey | ALei you might consider the color of the substance to be influenced by a die, or coloring substance. |
| 13:46.38 | ALei | why would a dye be used? |
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| 13:47.09 | snugglemonkey | ALei: same reason it's used in windex. So people feel like they are buying something. Marketing gimmic. Otherwise, it would be clear. |
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| 13:48.28 | AchiestDragon | substance brand identification , marks it as not beeing from someware else, or something else |
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| 13:49.30 | snugglemonkey | ALei So, is that good enough answer? lol |
| 13:49.53 | ALei | like how my girlfriend put teh color on her lips |
| 13:50.05 | ALei | ok |
| 13:50.43 | snugglemonkey | ALei: but, then again, Cu Sulfate is also blue. |
| 13:51.08 | snugglemonkey | as is the sky... and my kde Konq icon. |
| 13:51.21 | ALei | i prefer product which is a true and natural |
| 13:51.51 | snugglemonkey | ALei: then perhaps you should drop your girlfriend and her colored lips. |
| 13:52.08 | snugglemonkey | lol |
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| 13:52.25 | snugglemonkey | annma: save me. |
| 13:52.51 | annma | hi! |
| 13:52.54 | annma | what's up? |
| 13:53.08 | snugglemonkey | oh, nothing. talking about chemistry in the KDE channel. |
| 13:53.28 | annma | :) |
| 13:54.14 | annma | lol |
| 13:54.25 | snugglemonkey | I'm compiling again today. lol |
| 13:54.35 | snugglemonkey | kdelibs puked on me. |
| 13:54.47 | snugglemonkey | actually it was base. |
| 13:54.51 | snugglemonkey | So, redoign things. |
| 13:54.55 | snugglemonkey | :) |
| 13:54.58 | snugglemonkey | fun stuff. |
| 13:55.37 | snugglemonkey | annma: I played hangman the other day. you do realize that the guy actually never is "hung" by the rope. ;) |
| 13:55.46 | brainZzZ | but the past week I've been tired EVERY day ALL day. by the end of the day I just want to lay down and sleep. |
| 13:55.55 | annma | snugglemonkey: no? |
| 13:56.22 | annma | snugglemonkey: you mean we don't see the pic? |
| 13:56.42 | snugglemonkey | I was sort of hoping for something more graphic. lol |
| 13:57.09 | annma | lol |
| 13:57.17 | annma | there are 2 versions |
| 13:57.25 | annma | one soft and one where he ishanged |
| 13:57.48 | snugglemonkey | Actually today, it shows some errors. hm. |
| 13:58.34 | annma | snugglemonkey: I hope for 4.0 the graphics will be better as now kde has a strong artist community |
| 13:58.45 | snugglemonkey | annma: Misses: qt>cfo q t color=ff0000">wfont color="#ff0000>d _________ |
| 13:59.01 | annma | what version is that? |
| 13:59.06 | annma | it's been fixed |
| 13:59.14 | snugglemonkey | 3.3.91 |
| 13:59.48 | annma | from sources? |
| 13:59.54 | snugglemonkey | cvs head. |
| 14:00.12 | snugglemonkey | I was typing letters quickly to hang the guy, so perhaps I freaked it out.. |
| 14:00.15 | snugglemonkey | :( |
| 14:00.25 | annma | lol |
| 14:00.36 | annma | snugglemonkey: I'll test it better |
| 14:00.39 | anis[x] | annma: do u know the gimp ? |
| 14:00.48 | anis[x] | ah..of course u know it |
| 14:00.53 | annma | last time my own little tester tested it, it was flawless |
| 14:00.55 | snugglemonkey | yah, a short guy, bad leg... |
| 14:01.04 | annma | anis[x]: of course!!!!! |
| 14:01.09 | anis[x] | mom..can u teach me how to drag one picture to another picture ? |
| 14:01.23 | snugglemonkey | Gimp rocks. |
| 14:01.53 | anis[x] | rocks to anyone know how to use it |
| 14:02.11 | snugglemonkey | :) I fumbled around for the first few times, but it has some neat qualities. |
| 14:02.23 | snugglemonkey | "personality" |
| 14:03.05 | anis[x] | i want to drag another picture to the based picture |
| 14:03.18 | snugglemonkey | ok |
| 14:03.23 | snugglemonkey | with transparency? |
| 14:03.34 | anis[x] | no.. |
| 14:03.38 | snugglemonkey | ok |
| 14:03.43 | snugglemonkey | just one on top of the other. |
| 14:03.44 | anis[x] | i have 2 files open now |
| 14:03.53 | snugglemonkey | in the one file, you want on top of the other... |
| 14:03.59 | snugglemonkey | make a selection |
| 14:04.02 | snugglemonkey | copy the selection |
| 14:04.14 | snugglemonkey | go to the other file and paste it. |
| 14:04.38 | anis[x] | ihiks |
| 14:04.40 | anis[x] | yeah.. |
| 14:04.42 | anis[x] | just simple.. |
| 14:04.52 | anis[x] | i know little bit in adobe..but not in gimp! |
| 14:05.02 | snugglemonkey | did it work? |
| 14:05.15 | anis[x] | yes! |
| 14:05.27 | snugglemonkey | good. I didn't know what ihiks whas. |
| 14:05.39 | anis[x] | ihiks - like ahaks,haha,hehe |
| 14:05.41 | anis[x] | laughing |
| 14:05.46 | snugglemonkey | or even what whas is? I can't type today. |
| 14:06.13 | anis[x] | arh..why the other picture is square ? the other picture is rounded..but i selected with square |
| 14:06.23 | brainZzZ | I selected the os in grub and hit 'e' but nothing happens |
| 14:08.21 | lippel_ | i always fail to do the simplest things in current gimp. i found earlier versions much more usable. |
| 14:08.46 | snugglemonkey | i'm interested to see how well the KDE version turns out. |
| 14:09.04 | lippel_ | kde version? |
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| 14:09.14 | snugglemonkey | check koffice.org |
| 14:09.20 | lippel_ | ah, you mean krita. |
| 14:09.22 | coachz | is this channel for kde newbies ? |
| 14:09.22 | snugglemonkey | I think it's there. |
| 14:09.30 | coachz | like me |
| 14:09.37 | snugglemonkey | Yeah, kirta is the program. |
| 14:09.54 | StevenR | coachz: here is fine... we answer most kde related questions |
| 14:10.07 | coachz | I setup a printer using the KDE wizard but the printer doesn't show up and other ones do |
| 14:10.24 | StevenR | coachz: how did you set the other one up? |
| 14:10.28 | StevenR | coachz: are you using cups? |
| 14:10.33 | lippel_ | snugglemonkey: yeah, i hope it gets usable soon. last cvs snapshot i tried was rather unstable. but apart from that, i think it's promising. |
| 14:10.44 | coachz | i'm in the printing manager using network tcp/ip |
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| 14:11.06 | coachz | it says HP Laserjet CUPS v 1.1 |
| 14:11.39 | lippel_ | snugglemonkey: well, i think there is gap between kpaint and gimp where krita would fit in. |
| 14:11.46 | anis[x] | snugglemonkey: http://www.myfedora.org/core/kde3.jpg |
| 14:11.48 | anis[x] | see it snugglemonkey |
| 14:11.54 | anis[x] | very funny one! |
| 14:11.55 | anis[x] | hihi |
| 14:12.07 | snugglemonkey | anis[x]: impressive. |
| 14:12.21 | snugglemonkey | I see you are a fan of superkaramba. I too am a loyal user. |
| 14:12.29 | brainZzZ | i too am offended by n***** jokes |
| 14:12.58 | snugglemonkey | brainZzZ: ? |
| 14:12.59 | brainZzZ | I am basing my judgement on two things, snugglemonkey: your statements and my masters thesis. |
| 14:13.17 | anis[x] | snugglemonkey: yes..i lurves karamba |
| 14:14.24 | snugglemonkey | anis[x]: did you customize the sk theme on the right hand side? |
| 14:14.36 | StevenR | coachz: are you using cups on the client box? |
| 14:15.24 | coachz | yes |
| 14:15.48 | coachz | and trying to print to a xerox 6250 printer |
| 14:17.00 | snugglemonkey | who is brainZzZ and why does he think I've offended him. LOL |
| 14:17.04 | brainZzZ | lol |
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| 14:33.08 | StevenR | coachz: so cups on the server, and cups on the client? have you tried cups' web interface on 127.0.0.1:631 on the client box? |
| 14:33.21 | StevenR | coachz: have you tried restarting cups? |
| 14:37.16 | anis[x] | snugglemonkey!! |
| 14:37.20 | coachz | i am a total printer newbie |
| 14:37.24 | anis[x] | snugglemonkey: what do u mean by customize it ? |
| 14:38.16 | coachz | got time to walk me through it? |
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| 14:38.29 | coachz | wait |
| 14:38.47 | coachz | Test printer prints the page but the i get a different list of printers in my print dialog box |
| 14:39.14 | coachz | it's setup as socket://xerox6250.blah.com:9100/ |
| 14:39.26 | StevenR | coachz: i dont have time to walk you through it. sorry...too busy and going out to tech a show in 1.5 hours |
| 14:39.36 | coachz | ok |
| 14:39.41 | StevenR | coachz: i can answer questions though |
| 14:39.55 | coachz | how to get my print to show up in print dialog box |
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| 14:40.05 | coachz | it shows other printer that I don't want currently |
| 14:40.17 | coachz | the printers that I don't want are NOT in the printing manager |
| 14:40.32 | snugglemonkey | anis[x]: you still around/ |
| 14:40.34 | coachz | so basically how to get the print dialog box to honor the kde printing manager |
| 14:40.46 | agiofws | does konqueror support php pages? |
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| 14:41.09 | StevenR | agiofws: php is a server side thing |
| 14:41.15 | coachz | agiofws, yes, i just tested it |
| 14:41.22 | coachz | going to my server though |
| 14:41.42 | agiofws | well maybe i sayinf the wrong thing then |
| 14:41.52 | brainZzZ | yeah kerry is scared to say the wrong thing which could make him look as if he wouldn't be patriot evough for presidency |
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| 14:42.06 | agiofws | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:42.23 | coachz | agiofws, setup apache locally and install php |
| 14:42.51 | StevenR | agiofws: you need a webserver....or try the cgi kioslave.... |
| 14:43.15 | anis[x] | snugglemonkey: yes yes..im still here..just had a conversation in GAIM |
| 14:43.20 | anis[x] | arh sighs..my bnc dead again! |
| 14:43.21 | anis[x] | grrrr |
| 14:43.25 | brainZzZ | ping/finger are not necessary, since we are having a conversation in real time |
| 14:43.38 | anis[x] | snugglemonkey: what do u mean by customize it ? |
| 14:43.45 | agiofws | whats the server got to do with html pages that my webrowser will not open |
| 14:44.14 | StevenR | agiofws: php != html |
| 14:44.37 | snugglemonkey | anis[x]: The sk theme on the right hand side looks like you have added drives or something. So is it a custom one? |
| 14:44.41 | agiofws | there are some files in the dir with php extension |
| 14:44.56 | agiofws | oknqueror canot open them |
| 14:45.33 | anis[x] | snugglemonkey: yeah..that is custom one..i have 3 hdds on my pc |
| 14:45.40 | StevenR | agiofws: what do you mean "cannot open them" ? what heppens when you try? |
| 14:45.44 | anis[x] | 3 hdds with 3 operating system |
| 14:45.45 | anis[x] | wheeww |
| 14:46.01 | snugglemonkey | anis[x]: I've tried to customize to show additional processors, to no avail. |
| 14:46.31 | snugglemonkey | anis[x]: Well, that's not completely true. It did work once... but then I reformatted.... |
| 14:46.34 | snugglemonkey | :) |
| 14:46.38 | anis[x] | snugglemonkey: seems like my sk theme for network had no function..do u know how to config it ? |
| 14:46.51 | snugglemonkey | msg me. |
| 14:46.56 | anis[x] | thanks a lot |
| 14:47.40 | agiofws | as html pages in the same dir kan open... |
| 14:47.41 | agiofws | all the files in win xp opened with explorer |
| 14:47.41 | agiofws | can someone tell me which brwoser can rean pages with php extesions? |
| 14:47.51 | brainZzZ | other cars in the same price range that are much more worth while |
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| 14:48.28 | StevenR | agiofws: what happened when you tried to open the php files with konqueror? |
| 14:49.43 | agiofws | StevenR: it opens the source code of the page but DOES NOT display the page why ? |
| 14:50.24 | StevenR | because php is an interpreted language, requiring the php interpreter. |
| 14:50.39 | StevenR | it's just text as far as konqueror sees it |
| 14:51.01 | StevenR | maybe if you run it through the php interpreter it'll give you some html code |
| 14:51.01 | agiofws | well explorer interpreted both formats....why does n ot konq? |
| 14:51.19 | agiofws | StevenR: how do i do that? |
| 14:51.32 | agiofws | where is the php interpreter? |
| 14:51.36 | snugglemonkey | Explorer will do it, if the php file is html |
| 14:51.49 | snugglemonkey | But it echos the variables. |
| 14:51.53 | StevenR | agiofws: try renamingthe php files |
| 14:51.58 | StevenR | to .html |
| 14:52.27 | StevenR | i dont know how to use the php interpreter. never used php really... except through the web. |
| 14:52.29 | agiofws | buit they say in linux extensions don't play a role... |
| 14:52.40 | StevenR | no |
| 14:53.14 | StevenR | unix/gnu...extensions do not determine the file types....but konqueror uses mime extensions to detemine filetype. |
| 14:53.50 | agiofws | yes thats what i thought |
| 14:54.23 | agiofws | StevenR: where the hell do i find the php interpreter? |
| 14:54.35 | StevenR | agiofws: you may not need it...try renaming first |
| 14:55.57 | agiofws | StevenR: mv *.php ? |
| 14:56.01 | StevenR | no |
| 14:56.08 | StevenR | try one first |
| 14:56.08 | agiofws | StevenR: mv *.php *.html? |
| 14:56.10 | StevenR | no |
| 14:56.13 | agiofws | oh yes |
| 14:56.25 | StevenR | try just renaming one...no point in foobaring the lot |
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| 14:58.59 | cdc | i am part of KDE quality team |
| 14:59.02 | StevenR | agiofws: works? |
| 14:59.07 | cdc | i want to start contributing to KDE |
| 14:59.13 | cdc | i want to create some themes and post it |
| 14:59.16 | agiofws | StevenR: this is getting a pain in the neck.... |
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| 14:59.23 | cdc | but i want a good tutorial to start with |
| 14:59.23 | agiofws | i coanto rename,,, |
| 14:59.27 | StevenR | agiofws: ? |
| 14:59.38 | agiofws | canot rename.. |
| 14:59.40 | cdc | could anyone suggest me a good tutorial on how to create themes |
| 14:59.48 | annma | cdc: look at existing themes and do the same |
| 14:59.48 | StevenR | agiofws: why not? |
| 14:59.50 | agiofws | -rwxrw-rw- 1 agiofws agiofws 11K 2005-02-01 15:21 wss0010.php* |
| 15:00.03 | agiofws | mv wss0010.php wss0010.html |
| 15:00.03 | agiofws | mv: cannot move `wss0010.php' to `wss0010.html': Permission denied |
| 15:00.17 | agiofws | why? |
| 15:00.25 | cdc | annma, how is that ? |
| 15:00.31 | agiofws | is the fs corrupted? |
| 15:00.39 | cdc | annma, shouldnt i code something ? |
| 15:00.39 | StevenR | agiofws: correct username? try as su'd? |
| 15:00.52 | agiofws | su? |
| 15:00.57 | snugglemonkey | agiofws: use cp wss0010.php to your home directory |
| 15:01.34 | agiofws | snugglemonkey: cp it to what and why i just want to rename the darn thing |
| 15:01.34 | annma | cdc: did you look at a kde theme? |
| 15:02.04 | cdc | no |
| 15:02.11 | cdc | where should i look for ? |
| 15:02.21 | cdc | i mean which directory |
| 15:02.25 | snugglemonkey | agiofws: keep the original file, cp to the new one. your permissions will not allow you to move it. |
| 15:02.44 | snugglemonkey | agiofws: then test the "new" copied file. |
| 15:02.56 | agiofws | anyway as root i changes the name... |
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| 15:03.12 | annma | cdc: http://www.kde-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=14 |
| 15:03.26 | agiofws | but i din't understand it i should a USER be able to change the names of users files |
| 15:04.13 | agiofws | StevenR: i think it worked |
| 15:04.17 | cdc | annma, i am aware of this |
| 15:04.27 | cdc | annma, but shouldnt i code something to make a theme |
| 15:04.35 | agiofws | but now another issue,,,,why was i not able to change the file name as user |
| 15:04.37 | agiofws | ? |
| 15:04.54 | annma | cdc: all these themes are working, do the same |
| 15:04.57 | cdc | annma, coz IBM Developer works has a tutorial on creating themes but unfortunately i am not able to log on to that site |
| 15:05.20 | annma | look at one of these, cdc |
| 15:05.28 | annma | what do you see in the tarball? |
| 15:05.48 | cdc | annma, i have downloaded a deb package and i am using one of the themes here |
| 15:05.55 | cdc | annma, ok will download the tar package |
| 15:06.01 | agiofws | snugglemonkey: ? |
| 15:06.22 | snugglemonkey | agiofws: yes. |
| 15:06.29 | snugglemonkey | agiofws: what is wrong. |
| 15:07.01 | agiofws | -rwxrw-rw- 1 agiofws agiofws 7.7K 2005-02-01 15:21 wss0020.php* why can i not rename as user agiofws....what is wrong? |
| 15:07.19 | annma | cdc: you need that tarball to copy how it is done, of course |
| 15:07.24 | anis[x] | snugglemonkey: its work now!...thanks |
| 15:07.40 | snugglemonkey | anis[x]: sweet. I'm glad it works for you. |
| 15:08.00 | agiofws | snugglemonkey: is this no normal? |
| 15:08.05 | anis[x] | yea thanks |
| 15:08.05 | snugglemonkey | agiofws: chown user:user <filename> |
| 15:08.07 | cdc | annma, i ve downloaded the tarball extracted it too |
| 15:08.22 | cdc | annma, its got 2 directories install and opt |
| 15:08.30 | agiofws | snugglemonkey: define please? |
| 15:08.42 | annma | cdc: just copy the same structure but change the artwork!!! |
| 15:09.07 | snugglemonkey | agiofws: what is the username you are using? |
| 15:09.11 | cdc | annma, which directory should be changed |
| 15:09.22 | annma | directory? |
| 15:09.28 | agiofws | snugglemonkey: i told you agiogws |
| 15:09.33 | agiofws | snugglemonkey: i told you agiofws |
| 15:09.53 | agiofws | and the owner of the file and group as you can see is agiofws] |
| 15:09.54 | agiofws | ? |
| 15:10.02 | brainZzZ | disable them :-/ |
| 15:10.09 | snugglemonkey | so, you own the file. |
| 15:10.18 | cdc | annma, the /opt/kde/lib/kde3 contains many files |
| 15:10.26 | cdc | and also a plugin directory |
| 15:10.26 | annma | cdc: I hope so |
| 15:10.42 | annma | what theme did you downl;oad? |
| 15:10.43 | agiofws | so i do... |
| 15:10.58 | cdc | Comix for Slackware 10 |
| 15:11.08 | agiofws | snugglemonkey: omg but i told you I CANOt rename them as user agiofws... |
| 15:11.19 | agiofws | tell me am i stupid or something? |
| 15:11.34 | agiofws | or am i missing something? |
| 15:11.42 | annma | cdc: what kde version do you have installed? |
| 15:11.43 | Trevelyan | i've missed most of this conv, but i seen you mention d/l .deb and then files in /opt. debian installs kde to /usr not /opt |
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| 15:12.05 | snugglemonkey | agiofws: I asked for you to do it a certain way, so i could help you. I understand that you want to do it your way, which is fine. But, hard for me to help you with. |
| 15:12.12 | StevenR | agiofws: do you really have a group called agiofws on your system? |
| 15:12.18 | cdc | annma, i ve kde 3.3.2 |
| 15:12.24 | snugglemonkey | StevenR: all yours. :) |
| 15:12.41 | agiofws | snugglemonkey: thak you |
| 15:12.46 | annma | cdc: and you want to make a theme for that version? |
| 15:13.07 | agiofws | StevenR: in etc/group? |
| 15:13.13 | cdc | annma, yes |
| 15:13.19 | StevenR | agiofws: yes |
| 15:13.37 | annma | first see if the theme you have download install correctly, cdc |
| 15:14.12 | agiofws | StevenR: agiofws:x:1000: |
| 15:14.16 | cdc | ok then |
| 15:14.22 | cdc | then what should be done |
| 15:14.32 | StevenR | agiofws: well paste the users line too |
| 15:14.42 | cdc | in fact IBM has a tutorial for creating themes but today i am unable to access it |
| 15:14.46 | cdc | some problem in the web site |
| 15:14.47 | cdc | i guess |
| 15:14.51 | agiofws | StevenR: users line? |
| 15:14.54 | agiofws | define? |
| 15:14.56 | StevenR | from /etc/group |
| 15:15.19 | agiofws | buts thats what i pasted you from |
| 15:15.23 | agiofws | oh ok.. |
| 15:15.57 | agiofws | users:x:100:root |
| 15:16.12 | agiofws | should i add agiofws |
| 15:16.13 | agiofws | ? |
| 15:16.17 | StevenR | paste the agiofws line from /etc/password |
| 15:16.30 | StevenR | agiofws: /etc/passwd even |
| 15:17.29 | agiofws | what line? |
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| 15:17.56 | StevenR | the agiofws line |
| 15:18.27 | agiofws | agiofws:x:1000:1000:,,,:/home/agiofws:/bin/bash |
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| 15:18.55 | StevenR | agiofws: id |
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| 15:20.00 | agiofws | StevenR: id? |
| 15:20.08 | StevenR | it's a command |
| 15:20.55 | agiofws | uid=1000(agiofws) gid=1000(agiofws) groups=4(adm),24(cdrom),25(floppy),29(audio),30(dip),1000(agiofws) |
| 15:22.03 | StevenR | hmmm...i dunno really then...read-only fs or some other property of filesystem? |
| 15:22.41 | agiofws | StevenR: its something to do with the filesystem right? |
| 15:22.45 | agiofws | corrupted |
| 15:22.47 | agiofws | ? |
| 15:22.56 | agiofws | fsck? |
| 15:22.59 | StevenR | i dont know...you'll need to test that for yourself |
| 15:23.22 | agiofws | fsck /dev/hda2? |
| 15:23.30 | agiofws | but it has to be unmounted |
| 15:23.40 | agiofws | how ? init 1? |
| 15:23.42 | StevenR | probably....sorry, i gotta get back to work |
| 15:23.51 | agiofws | init 1? |
| 15:24.06 | agiofws | ok thaks |
| 15:24.57 | mart_k | agiofws: You can also try a distribution that is bootable from cdrom, such as knoppix. |
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| 15:36.55 | sredna | PhotoBob: Did you have questions related to kate? |
| 15:37.32 | PhotoBob | sredna: not that I can remember why? |
| 15:37.51 | sredna | PhotoBob: [15:16:27] PhotoBob (~bob@h-67-101-108-124.lsanca54.dynamic.covad.net) has joined channel #kate |
| 15:38.34 | PhotoBob | sredna: wrong room that's why I left. |
| 15:38.48 | sredna | Lol, ok. I just thought I'd ask now that I saw you here |
| 15:39.01 | PhotoBob | cool |
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| 15:57.06 | LinuxNIT | anyone know why i cant use kidalog as root? it works just fine as a user but as root i get this stuff. http://www.pastebin.com/236239 |
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| 15:59.42 | lauri | it says so right at the top |
| 15:59.44 | sredna | LinuxNIT: You probably need a display. If you use kdesu it will forward the display automatically |
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| 15:59.51 | lauri | root doesn't own the display, use kdesu |
| 16:01.25 | LinuxNIT | how do i use kdesu? |
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| 16:02.19 | sredna | LinuxNIT: You can use it as a command - type 'kdesu <command>' simply |
| 16:02.31 | LinuxNIT | oh instead of su |
| 16:02.50 | sredna | LinuxNIT: Then it will pop up a dialog wihch prompts for roog password, and executes <command> under the new uid |
| 16:02.55 | sredna | Yes, just like su |
| 16:03.07 | LinuxNIT | ok |
| 16:03.18 | sredna | Hi lauri |
| 16:04.03 | virgiln | does anybody know for what reasons I should be getting this error message in current cvs from kmail? : undefined reference to `KPIM::KXFace::toImage(QString const&)' |
| 16:04.25 | LinuxNIT | thanks sredna ill try taht and i appreciate the help |
| 16:04.32 | sredna | Np :) |
| 16:04.51 | lanol | I'm using freebsd 5.3. Why's that kppp wrote userid and password as plain text in chap or pap-secrets ? Any idea how to hide it ? |
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| 16:08.39 | lauri | that's how chap and pap work |
| 16:10.17 | lanol | I use KDE 3.3.2 on my linux box, and this isn't the case. |
| 16:10.23 | lanol | chap and pap secrets are empty |
| 16:10.51 | lanol | still, it can connect to the net |
| 16:10.52 | lauri | well, what would you like me to say? |
| 16:11.05 | LinuxNIT | hey does anyone here know of a good program taht will show you wireless networks in the area and let you clikc on one and connect to it froma gui? |
| 16:11.07 | lauri | I can show you dozens of faq's noting that the password goes in clear text in the secrets file |
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| 16:11.50 | lauri | if your linux box doesn't do this, it's distribution hiding it somehow (if you're using SuSE or RH/Fedora, you're not using KDE's kppp in any case and I really can't help you) |
| 16:11.56 | lanol | that's why I'm asking it. |
| 16:12.21 | lauri | and chap and pap are not the only ways to auth a connection, just the most common |
| 16:12.30 | lanol | i'm using LFS 6 and i build kde 3.3.2 from scratch |
| 16:12.59 | lanol | yeah, perhaps in .kppp |
| 16:13.07 | lauri | anyway, hardly anyone uses kppp on freebsd (we've actually considered removing it from the packages) |
| 16:13.29 | lanol | ouch |
| 16:14.19 | lauri | no, it's just pointless running pppd to do something the OS can do directly |
| 16:14.27 | lanol | actually I prefer kppp instead of those nasty wvdial, yawmppp. |
| 16:14.29 | lauri | it works perfectly well |
| 16:14.43 | lauri | they are equally pointless on freebsd |
| 16:16.25 | lauri | http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/userppp.html |
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| 16:18.20 | lanol | yeah, I've tried it, but still it stored plaintext password in the script. oh boy, that really sucks. |
| 16:19.09 | lauri | well it's hardly my fault |
| 16:19.42 | lanol | yeah |
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| 16:21.41 | Trevelyan | i just put my pppd settings in /etc/ppp/peers/isp-name and then i use "pppd call isp-name" not no extra tools and not that hard to use |
| 16:21.47 | lauri | http://www.freeradius.org/faq/#4.4.1 |
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| 16:22.14 | lauri | Trevelyan: pppd *is* an extra tool for us |
| 16:22.40 | Trevelyan | as to /etc/ppp/*-secrets, thats should only be root readable |
| 16:22.45 | lauri | it's unnecessary, and few people use it unless they specially want to use kppp or wvdial or something |
| 16:23.29 | Trevelyan | on another os to linux? |
| 16:23.36 | lauri | yes |
| 16:23.50 | Trevelyan | ok sorry, i'll shut up =) |
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| 16:27.56 | mutronix | hi all |
| 16:28.08 | lanol | Trevelyan: the prob is, unless you encrypt pap-secrets, someone can still open it, say mount the hd under linux as root on another pc. |
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| 16:28.39 | Trevelyan | you dont have root_quash ? |
| 16:28.46 | Trevelyan | *squash |
| 16:28.48 | lauri | they'd have a fine time trying to read a freebsd disk, since linux doesn't support the file system |
| 16:29.09 | lauri | and kppp has a "save the password" box you can uncheck, and type it in every time |
| 16:29.22 | lauri | and sheesh, encrypt your disks if it bothers you this much |
| 16:30.07 | lauri | in the real world, don't use your isp password for anything else, including your mail accounts, chmod the file so only the dialler user can read it, and just live with it |
| 16:32.13 | lauri | and pap sends it plain text over the wire anyway, chap sends a hash, but the RFC specifically says that the secret must be available in clear text |
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| 16:32.50 | u-warter | Someone recommend a decent RSS newsreader? preferably something that can import OPML? |
| 16:33.41 | sredna | Akregator maybe |
| 16:33.49 | sredna | I don't know what OPML is |
| 16:34.04 | Trevelyan | does the ?bsd ppp have a way to pipe the pw to it? pppd has pty script, but i think thats for options not pw |
| 16:35.38 | lauri | you can have it auth from the system password file |
| 16:35.57 | lauri | which would satisfy lanol entirely (but it's still gonna send it plain text down the wire) |
| 16:36.25 | lauri | had to look that up though, it's like 5 years since i last dialled up anything |
| 16:37.19 | Trevelyan | that i think is pap only and the peer needs to know to crypt() (you can crypt() entries in pap-secrets) but i could be wrong |
| 16:37.23 | lauri | not sure how that'd work, I guess you make a dialler user with the same system password as the isp account |
| 16:37.43 | lauri | Trevelyan: have at it http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1334.txt :) |
| 16:38.02 | lanol | yes, if someone just happened to eavesdrop the phone wire, then the password would be compromised. |
| 16:38.20 | lauri | lanol: indeed |
| 16:38.21 | Trevelyan | i was looking at man pppd, not exactly an rfc be gives idea of capabilities |
| 16:38.32 | lauri | perhaps you should disconnect your machines entirely from the internet |
| 16:38.49 | Trevelyan | easy get one of those (now banned in uk) loop amp meters |
| 16:38.55 | lauri | you might want to unplug the power, you know you can do ip over the power lines |
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| 16:40.30 | lanol | yeah |
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| 16:46.12 | Darkvater | I think I remember seeing a preview of an avi file in the file browser a while back. I think it was nautilus |
| 16:46.19 | brainZzZ | tim burton does some amazing stuff...I think it's going to be really cool |
| 16:46.25 | Darkvater | does KDE have such a feature (sorry for the noob question) |
| 16:46.50 | sredna | brainZzZ: What? |
| 16:46.51 | brainZzZ | what did you install, what o/s & wth this channel ? |
| 16:47.20 | Darkvater | oh sorry.. Suse9.2 |
| 16:49.31 | Darkvater | it's kde 3.3.0 that came with it |
| 16:49.38 | virgiln | any idea why I get this error when I try to link kmail? .libs/headerstyle.o(.text+0x3e): In function `KMail::strToHtml(QString const&, int)': |
| 16:50.16 | lauri | Darkvater: yes, kmplayer or kplayer or kaffeine or kaboodle can all be embedded |
| 16:50.48 | Darkvater | aaah ok. I got forwarded to installing xine |
| 16:51.02 | sredna | virgiln: I think you should try 'make clean' and then 'make' again |
| 16:51.39 | sredna | Really odd |
| 16:51.54 | sredna | snugglemonkey: What is wrong with kdebase? |
| 16:51.59 | virgiln | sredna: OK, I'll try it... I did make -f Makefile.cvs... |
| 16:52.03 | brainZzZ | that DID make it through, that is |
| 16:52.17 | virgiln | sredna: anyway, now it's trying again, it'll be awhile before I know if it worked or not |
| 16:52.23 | snugglemonkey | sredna: it has to do with the konq bookmark stuff. |
| 16:53.02 | snugglemonkey | sredna: I was told that it was a recently added feature and that it might be buggy. I will wait for cvs to change, and retry later. |
| 16:53.12 | sredna | snugglemonkey: If it keeps refusing to build, update |
| 16:53.13 | sredna | Yea |
| 16:53.43 | lauri | Darkvater: yeah, all the above use xine libs as a backend (or mplayer, most of them can use both, the default embedded media player is kaboodle though, which uses xine) |
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| 16:54.28 | sredna | Hm, I should really install xine |
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| 16:56.12 | xerxes1358 | hello |
| 16:56.19 | sredna | Hi xerxes1358 :) |
| 16:56.25 | xerxes1358 | hello :) |
| 16:56.40 | xerxes1358 | I have a urgent off topic question: |
| 16:57.14 | xerxes1358 | I wonder if it is possible to use recursions (recursive queries) in xpath queries |
| 16:57.25 | xerxes1358 | anyone using xpath / |
| 16:57.27 | xerxes1358 | ? |
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| 17:00.38 | PhilRod | xerxes1358: #xml? |
| 17:00.52 | xerxes1358 | no one seems to know or answr |
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| 17:02.01 | lauri | The recursive descendant operator indicates to include all descendant nodes in the search. Using the operator at the .... |
| 17:02.14 | coachz | how come kwallet pops up to remove a printer but apt-get remove kwalletmanager says it's not installed ? |
| 17:02.17 | lauri | looks like it |
| 17:02.33 | lauri | because kwallet and kwalletmanager are two entirely different things |
| 17:02.48 | coachz | apt-cache search wallet didn't show anything else |
| 17:02.52 | ALei | tone down teh pron |
| 17:03.00 | lauri | this is a debian question, not a kde one then, sorry |
| 17:03.01 | lippel|afk | coachz: it's part of kdelibs |
| 17:03.03 | lauri | ask your packagers |
| 17:03.33 | coachz | ok |
| 17:03.39 | coachz | thank you |
| 17:04.38 | lauri | (but note, that you can use kwalletmanager to turn it *off* too) |
| 17:05.25 | virgiln | sredna: didn't work (after make clean and make) |
| 17:06.12 | sredna | virgiln: Could you paste the error again? |
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| 17:06.28 | virgiln | sredna: the whole thing? or just part? |
| 17:06.33 | virgiln | btw, where is the pastebin? |
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| 17:06.54 | ALei | What is more stable, Windows XP or MAC OS X 10.5? |
| 17:07.27 | sredna | ~pastebin |
| 17:07.28 | apt | well, pastebin is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.ca |
| 17:09.05 | virgiln | sadnesses... I can't get in there 'cause of *filtering* anyway... can I pm u? |
| 17:09.09 | coachz | How can I get my Printers that are in KDE Printing Manager to show up in my apps like Firefox please ? |
| 17:09.14 | illissius | ALei: well, it depends |
| 17:09.24 | sredna | There are other pastebins, virgiln -- google |
| 17:09.25 | illissius | OSX 10.5 doesn't exist, so it can't crash |
| 17:09.27 | illissius | so probably that |
| 17:09.37 | sredna | virgiln: But /msg is fine by me |
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| 17:09.55 | coachz | Is it because Printing manager shows Print system currently used CUPS ? |
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| 17:10.02 | sredna | Alkis: *nix is more stable ;^) |
| 17:10.59 | sredna | coachz: Set firefox' printing command to kprinter I think |
| 17:11.09 | coachz | command ? |
| 17:12.03 | coachz | how do i tell what "print system" to pick under printing manager ? |
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| 17:13.40 | coachz | it has CUPS, LPR, Generic Unix LPD |
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| 17:16.02 | coachz | When I pick Postscript printer it says unable to find postscript driver. How can I add that please? |
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| 17:17.38 | sredna | coachz: Do you have ghostview installed? |
| 17:17.48 | coachz | let's see |
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| 17:18.35 | coachz | Preparing to replace gv 1:3.5.8-36 (using .../gv_1%3a3.6.1-5_i386.deb) ... |
| 17:18.41 | coachz | Installing new version of config file /etc/X11/app-defaults/GV ... |
| 17:18.44 | coachz | it's done |
| 17:19.09 | coachz | what now |
| 17:19.37 | sredna | Check if the postscript pseudo printer works |
| 17:20.05 | sredna | By printing something from a kde app |
| 17:20.18 | coachz | it won't let me pick postscript when i add a printer |
| 17:21.14 | ALei | I used to use Linux, but I am really getting away from wasting my time in the thick of operating the computer that is supposed to be working for me. |
| 17:21.29 | coachz | ALei, great, have a nice day |
| 17:22.50 | PhilRod | ALei: so if you don't use *nix, what are you doing here? |
| 17:23.13 | ALei | I made the switch. |
| 17:23.52 | sredna | coachz: You need to install a driver for you printer, maybe cups provides one |
| 17:24.00 | sredna | coachz: Did you install cups? |
| 17:24.06 | coachz | cups is installed |
| 17:24.11 | ALei | Thanks to Microsoft's latest-generation NT product, it has been a blessed experience. |
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| 17:24.13 | coachz | i just need a postscript driver |
| 17:24.17 | speedcore | hey |
| 17:24.24 | PhilRod | ALei: if you want to troll, take it elsewhere |
| 17:24.28 | speedcore | how do i install a theme from source |
| 17:24.29 | coachz | ALei, go way moron |
| 17:24.38 | sredna | speedcore: Install which? |
| 17:24.57 | speedcore | metal4kde |
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| 17:25.13 | speedcore | from source |
| 17:25.18 | sredna | What is metal4kde? |
| 17:25.20 | speedcore | i compiled it and all |
| 17:25.25 | speedcore | a cool kde theme |
| 17:25.32 | ALei | It seems that in the time I was away, Microsoft was busy working out everything I had been growing sick with. |
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| 17:25.48 | coachz | ALei, shut up idiot |
| 17:25.52 | *** kick/#kde [ALei!~phil@dh22.chch.ox.ac.uk] by PhilRod (we don't have time for trolls) |
| 17:25.55 | speedcore | so how do you install a kde theme from source |
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| 17:26.18 | *** kick/#kde [ALei!~phil@dh22.chch.ox.ac.uk] by PhilRod (PhilRod) |
| 17:26.27 | sredna | speedcore: Did you read the INSTALL file in the package? |
| 17:26.27 | PhilRod | flippin' eck. Moron |
| 17:26.45 | coachz | he wants his lame world view reinforced |
| 17:26.50 | speedcore | sredna, it said conf make make install,, and so i did |
| 17:26.51 | aseigo | PhilRod: er... does that ban mean nobody from sympatico.ca can join #kde? |
| 17:27.01 | sredna | PhilRod: Maybe he's the next terry james :o |
| 17:27.26 | PhilRod | aseigo: erm, oops. I need to go learn how to be an irc op |
| 17:27.35 | aseigo | PhilRod: =) |
| 17:27.42 | aseigo | sredna: maybe he IS terry james! =) |
| 17:27.43 | speedcore | oki where do i get themes that are easy too install |
| 17:27.48 | speedcore | it cant be that damn hard |
| 17:27.49 | sredna | Scary :o |
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| 17:28.14 | eliasp | ;) |
| 17:28.17 | sredna | speedcore: Which kind of theme is it? Window decorations, widget style, ..? |
| 17:28.55 | PhilRod | aseigo: would just removing the ban in, say, five minutes be OK? (presumably he'll have given up trying to rejoin by then) |
| 17:28.57 | speedcore | ehmm a whole theme |
| 17:29.07 | *** mode/#kde [-o PhilRod] by ChanServ |
| 17:29.08 | speedcore | not a windows decoration theme |
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| 17:30.23 | sredna | speedcore: It looks like a widget style |
| 17:30.48 | sredna | speedcore: In the control center, go to Appearnce & Themes->Style |
| 17:30.53 | brainZzZ | ahhh dark & wise, i see you're gracing us with your presence again? :P |
| 17:30.56 | sredna | speedcore: And see it it isn't in the menu |
| 17:30.59 | aseigo | PhilRod: as long as you remember to, sure =) |
| 17:31.03 | speedcore | its not |
| 17:31.03 | brainZzZ | measure temp |
| 17:31.06 | speedcore | thats the problem |
| 17:31.35 | virgiln | methinks me doesn't like kmail crashing |
| 17:31.38 | speedcore | ohhh wait |
| 17:31.50 | speedcore | you mean the theme maneger in control panel ` |
| 17:31.51 | speedcore | ??? |
| 17:32.12 | speedcore | it totally fuck up sometimes |
| 17:32.21 | coachz | Still unable to find Postscript Printer driver in Printing Manager |
| 17:32.23 | coachz | help please |
| 17:32.32 | speedcore | its pops up a delete files in progress and then freezes |
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| 17:33.40 | sredna | speedcore: I mean the style control panel |
| 17:34.22 | sredna | speedcore: Did you follow the instructions here: http://www.onexige.com/linux/metal4kde/download_help.html#help |
| 17:34.49 | speedcore | yes i did |
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| 17:35.13 | speedcore | hmmm my whole system seems screwy maybe reiser4 sucks after all |
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| 17:40.43 | virgiln | sredna: kmail works now, thx for your help! |
| 17:40.51 | sredna | virgiln: Great :) |
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| 17:44.03 | speedcore | cant i just download a theme file |
| 17:47.29 | sredna | speedcore: What is the file name? |
| 17:47.44 | speedcore | sredna, ehhh what do you mean |
| 17:47.53 | speedcore | i just want a better theme |
| 17:48.03 | speedcore | whats the easiest way to get one |
| 17:48.32 | sredna | speedcore: Install one |
| 17:48.43 | sredna | speedcore: What OS/linux distribution do you use? |
| 17:49.23 | sredna | speedcore: The easiest way it if there are binary packages suitable for your system |
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| 17:49.57 | sredna | speedcore: Otherwise, you must build from source. That means you follow the instructions in the INSTALL file that is in most source packages. |
| 17:50.09 | shevegen | a question, does one of you know how to force syntax highlighting on a text file so that it is highlighted as if it would be, for example, a /bin/bash file or so ? |
| 17:50.13 | shevegen | in kwrite |
| 17:52.02 | sredna | shevegen: You can use a mode line, to set bash hl, put this near the top or bottom of the file 'kate: Hl Bash;' |
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| 17:52.13 | sredna | shevegen: It can be in a comment, of course |
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| 17:54.21 | snugglemonkey | I just burned a DVD with the new K3b. After removing the DVD from the tray and closing it, I'm getting tons of messages in /var/log/messages (i counted 118 times in 8 minutes) about kernel: VFS: Busy inodes on changed media. |
| 17:54.26 | hayzel | Hi. A kde language issue. I can switch fine us<->gr using the kde icon. But any combination I put in kxkb doesn seem to work. any ideas? |
| 17:54.28 | snugglemonkey | any ideas? |
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| 17:58.35 | PhilRod | snugglemonkey: take a look at the archives of kde-devel and kde-core-devel. Someone posted a similar issue a day or two ago |
| 17:58.57 | snugglemonkey | PhilRod: Will do, thanks. |
| 17:59.28 | coachz | I'm printing yay |
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| 17:59.47 | coachz | Can anyone tell me how to make my printer the default? I picked default in printing manager |
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| 18:01.15 | coachz | do i have to restart kde? surely not |
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| 18:02.24 | PhilRod | snugglemonkey: lists.kde.org |
| 18:02.51 | PhilRod | coachz: you may need to run kbuildsycoca to avoid restarting kde |
| 18:03.01 | brainZzZ | seriously my grandfather came to the US to avoid getting drafted into lenin's army |
| 18:03.34 | coachz | PhilRod, that didn't seem to work |
| 18:03.46 | coachz | Could not read network connection list. |
| 18:03.47 | coachz | /root/.DCOPserver_sandman_NODISPLAY |
| 18:06.36 | coachz | is it easy to upgrade my KDE to the latest ? |
| 18:06.50 | PhilRod | maybe, maybe not :-) |
| 18:07.07 | coachz | in debian |
| 18:07.10 | PhilRod | depends a lot on your distribution and how they do things |
| 18:07.28 | coachz | sarge |
| 18:08.08 | shevegen | hmm |
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| 18:09.24 | shevegen | putting #kate: Hl Bash; as last line of this text file does not seem to make any change in kwrite |
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| 18:10.13 | jono | hi all |
| 18:10.41 | coachz | what's that kde screen capture app called |
| 18:10.55 | PhilRod | ksnapshot |
| 18:10.59 | coachz | thanks |
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| 18:12.44 | PhilRod | snugglemonkey: the thread is on kde-devel, entitled "Endless modprobe calls logged in KDE 3.4" |
| 18:13.06 | coachz | ksnapshot is one fat app |
| 18:13.46 | jono | coachz, fat app? |
| 18:13.55 | coachz | eats up drive space |
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| 18:25.53 | Julianyus | hi |
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| 18:59.49 | sredna | Hi annma |
| 19:00.01 | annma | hi sredna :) |
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| 19:00.32 | aseigo | annma: hey =) find anything more out re:kscd yesterday? |
| 19:00.40 | brainZzZ | until ultimately they just became outright lies, protected further by more outright lies |
| 19:00.51 | annma | not really, aseigo |
| 19:01.08 | u-warter | Do we have a solution to the broke screen saver problem inside Kde as of yet? |
| 19:01.12 | Darkvater | lauri: sorry for bothering again (I asked about the embedded videoplayer thingie). I downloaded kaffeine, it works..but was not what I was looking for |
| 19:01.34 | Darkvater | I was looking for a preview-image of the video file in konqueror itself |
| 19:02.03 | aseigo | annma: where did we leave off yesterday? |
| 19:02.19 | aseigo | knsnapshot eats up drive space? it's 135k here |
| 19:02.25 | aseigo | 134k, sorry |
| 19:02.34 | annma | we moved some case around |
| 19:03.18 | aseigo | annma: oh.. now i remember.. the value of sc.cdsc_audiostatus after the ioctl call |
| 19:05.13 | annma | ok, let me see |
| 19:06.02 | lauri | Darkvater: oh :) |
| 19:06.50 | lauri | Darkvater: View -> Preview -> Turn on the ones you want (you still need xinelib and the xine-artsplugin installed, if it's packaged separately) |
| 19:07.34 | annma | Stop: :sc.cdsc_audiostatus 21 |
| 19:07.43 | annma | play: :sc.cdsc_audiostatus 17 |
| 19:07.57 | annma | pause: sc.cdsc_audiostatus 18 |
| 19:08.49 | annma | so this seems right |
| 19:09.07 | annma | it comes back to 21 when I hit Stop |
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| 19:10.37 | u-warter | Do we have a solution to the broke screen saver problem inside Kde as of yet? |
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| 19:11.40 | lauri | your screensaver ran out of money? |
| 19:11.40 | annma | u-warter: what doyou mean? |
| 19:11.52 | annma | lol @ lauri |
| 19:11.54 | u-warter | screensaver wont work since updating to 3.3 |
| 19:12.05 | annma | 3.4? |
| 19:12.10 | u-warter | Lots and lots of people having problems. instead of screensaver coming up...the screen just goes black. |
| 19:12.10 | annma | 3.3 I mean? |
| 19:12.23 | annma | kde 3.3 from source? |
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| 19:12.29 | u-warter | google will return a butt-load of complaints. |
| 19:12.33 | annma | bug report number? |
| 19:12.39 | u-warter | dont have it |
| 19:12.44 | lauri | then we don't know about it |
| 19:13.03 | lauri | no matter what google has to say, if it's not got a bug number, it's probably news to the handful of developers who can fix it |
| 19:13.18 | u-warter | url for search on bug no# ? |
| 19:13.22 | annma | u-warter: kde compiled from source? |
| 19:13.25 | lauri | bugs.kde.org |
| 19:13.45 | lauri | conveniently, that's also the place to find out if said bugs are fixed |
| 19:14.44 | annma | u-warter: did you compile kde by hand? |
| 19:14.59 | annma | on my kde 3.3 I remeber the screensaver working perfectly |
| 19:15.11 | annma | althouth I usually don't set one |
| 19:15.16 | annma | but I tested a few |
| 19:15.21 | aseigo | annma: 21? hrm... NOSTATUS? |
| 19:15.30 | u-warter | well, I just went to bugtraq thingy...it returned a large amount of problems concering the screen savers |
| 19:15.31 | lauri | and on several versions of it around here, but I just have the screen shut off |
| 19:15.31 | aseigo | #define*CDROM_AUDIO_NO_STATUS* 0x15* /* no current audio status to return */ |
| 19:15.35 | aseigo | ok.. that sort of makes sense =) |
| 19:15.39 | lauri | u-warter: bug numbers? |
| 19:15.55 | u-warter | lauri: yes....you want me to paste them to channel ? |
| 19:16.12 | annma | u-warter: paste the correct bug number for your problem |
| 19:16.19 | annma | there cannot be several |
| 19:16.22 | brainZzZ | canreinvite=no may have fixed your problem |
| 19:16.28 | lauri | pick one that is exactly what you are seeing |
| 19:16.31 | annma | duplicates are merged |
| 19:17.02 | aseigo | annma: and which really makes me scratch my head at the code in plat_linux.c =) |
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| 19:17.24 | annma | aseigo: don't get your hair down |
| 19:17.27 | Scognito | hi all |
| 19:17.30 | aseigo | hair down? |
| 19:17.35 | Scognito | how can set a kde theme for kde apps, without having kde installed? i only have qt |
| 19:17.40 | annma | scratching your head |
| 19:17.41 | Scognito | i've downloaded a theme from kde-look.org |
| 19:18.06 | lauri | well, since you won't have any kde apps until you install it, and when you do, there is a nice gui for doing this for you |
| 19:18.15 | lauri | I must ask, what's the point |
| 19:18.32 | Scognito | i have gnome and skype is ugly withouth theme |
| 19:18.40 | Scognito | ok 'ill install k3b |
| 19:18.46 | Scognito | i need it |
| 19:18.48 | lauri | then you want to change it for a Qt app |
| 19:18.59 | Scognito | yes |
| 19:19.03 | lauri | which you can do with Qtconfig (but that is for widget styles, I don't know exactly what you mean by "theme" here) |
| 19:19.20 | Scognito | buttons, labels... |
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| 19:19.38 | lauri | qtconfig (run it from a friendly run dialog or terminal near you) |
| 19:20.38 | Scognito | i'm downloading kdelibs right now |
| 19:20.56 | lauri | to install anyway, or to change the widget style in Skype? |
| 19:21.04 | brainZzZ | of course, as soon as gaza is gone, i guess youhave to change the maps again |
| 19:21.21 | annma | hmm, I need chocolate |
| 19:22.26 | u-warter | Well, there is quite a few comments added to this. But it all describes the problem I am seeing. Here is the number: 76746 |
| 19:22.38 | brainZzZ | there is the benchmarker in ut |
| 19:23.27 | aseigo | annma: http://aseigo.bddf.ca/dms/11/104_plat_linux.c |
| 19:23.28 | Scognito | lauri, install |
| 19:23.32 | aseigo | annma: can you try that? |
| 19:23.41 | annma | aseigo: yes |
| 19:23.51 | aseigo | thanks =) |
| 19:25.39 | canllaith | Heya sredna, annma lauri aseigo :) |
| 19:25.43 | aseigo | heya |
| 19:25.44 | lauri | hey hey :) |
| 19:25.49 | sredna | Hi thre canllaith :) |
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| 19:25.59 | canllaith | is your computer being nice to you today? |
| 19:26.20 | sredna | Better than yesterday, thanks :) |
| 19:26.24 | canllaith | heh good :) |
| 19:26.41 | lauri | chowells: u-warter says he has this exact bug, perhaps we can get some useful debugging info out of him |
| 19:26.50 | annma | hi canllaith |
| 19:27.06 | u-warter | lauri: Was talking to someone else in this channel last night going through the same thing. |
| 19:27.21 | lauri | u-warter: and take a look at who the bug you just showed me is assigned to |
| 19:27.22 | chowells | lauri, u-warter: ok |
| 19:27.35 | sredna | canllaith: I added a filetype for docbook to kates defaults today, setting indent-mode to none, in the hope that docbook writers will be happier |
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| 19:27.44 | Flendor | Hello. |
| 19:27.45 | u-warter | We think we tracked it down to either ONE, incorrect path for screen saver modules...OR, something screwy with the "make saver aware of power management" |
| 19:28.00 | canllaith | sredna: yay! I am afraid I have had to show two other people how to disable indenting for a certain filetype :\ |
| 19:28.18 | annma | aseigo: !!!!! you did it !!!! |
| 19:28.20 | sredna | canllaith: It will eventually end in the new manual |
| 19:28.27 | canllaith | sredna: that's excellent :) |
| 19:28.28 | annma | it works!!!!! |
| 19:28.50 | chowells | u-warter: can you please give me the output of 'xset q' before and after running xscreensaver? |
| 19:28.59 | aseigo | annma: does pausing / playing still work too? |
| 19:29.02 | annma | I had to add a 'e' to a wrong '*mode' |
| 19:29.04 | annma | yes! |
| 19:29.19 | Flendor | :D |
| 19:29.25 | Flendor | Glad you did it, annma. |
| 19:29.29 | chowells | u-warter: incorrect path for screen saver modules should be a permanent problem, I don't see how it would be changed by running xscreensaver |
| 19:29.35 | Flendor | ..now,what did you do? |
| 19:29.39 | brainZzZ | admittedly there are things in unix that should be changed...but.. |
| 19:29.41 | annma | Flendor: aseigo did it |
| 19:29.43 | annma | not me |
| 19:29.52 | Scognito | lauri, i'll try thank you |
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| 19:30.32 | aseigo | annma: as i'm sure you noticed, i didn't even test compile that patch ;) |
| 19:30.40 | annma | yes, depends of this nO_STATUS |
| 19:30.47 | annma | aseigo: ;) |
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| 19:34.24 | Flendor | How's it going aseigo, annma, and everyone else on the channel? |
| 19:34.35 | aseigo | Flendor: nice, thanks |
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| 19:36.30 | annma | Flendor: busy but fine |
| 19:37.12 | Darkvater | lauri: thanks a lot! |
| 19:39.10 | lauri | u-warter: did you see what chowells asked you? |
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| 19:39.22 | chowells | lauri: yeah we're talking in privmsg :) |
| 19:39.27 | lauri | ok :) |
| 19:39.29 | u-warter | lauri: talking now |
| 19:39.30 | chowells | thanks |
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| 19:44.03 | h | i've got my family set up in kmail and i was wondering how to password protect the inbox folders so only the family member can see his/her folder. does anyone know how to do this? |
| 19:44.56 | canllaith | h: the best way is really to give them their own unix user account |
| 19:45.51 | h | yeah, but right now we are having to use a live cd flavor of linux. the mom knocked the computer over and messed up the hard drive :P |
| 19:46.18 | annma | por mom |
| 19:46.34 | sredna | ? |
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| 19:46.44 | Maneit | Are there any adobe illustrator-like programs for KDE? |
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| 19:46.53 | sredna | No |
| 19:46.56 | Flendor | Sorry, had to reboot. |
| 19:47.16 | annma | I don;t think you can password protect the folders, h, not through KMail |
| 19:47.38 | Maneit | sredna: was that for me? |
| 19:47.42 | h | unless i put the feature in there |
| 19:47.43 | sredna | Maneit: The best OSS vector drawing programs for *nix are inkscape or sodipodi |
| 19:48.07 | Maneit | sredna: okay |
| 19:48.09 | h | oh well, thanks though |
| 19:48.13 | canllaith | Kmail being designed to be used on a unix, where security is implemented at the level of the filesystem.... |
| 19:48.14 | sredna | There is nothing that can compete with illustrator |
| 19:48.23 | brainZzZ | Mr X it still is a conspircay. NOTHIGN in Watergate was even on the level of the Dems in 63. hear dhistory |
| 19:48.26 | brainZzZ | the bible doesn't compete with darwin,,, the bible is a book of theology... the central message of Genesis is that creation was good,,, i don't think darwin challenged that |
| 19:49.21 | canllaith | heh true |
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| 20:13.05 | annma | aseigo: :> |
| 20:13.10 | annma | cool |
| 20:15.21 | h | hey does anyone know of a pop-up blocker notification icon being implemented into a future konqueror release? |
| 20:16.01 | annma | future release if far |
| 20:16.18 | annma | I mean, there will be 1 release soon but not with this feature |
| 20:16.24 | MoDaX | is arts 1.3.2 working fine? i can't get either amarok or juk play sound. artsd just crashes. instead of system notifications (eg startup sound) i get silence |
| 20:17.38 | annma | MoDaX: what distro? |
| 20:17.50 | MoDaX | debian |
| 20:18.08 | annma | maybe you could ask in #debian-kde |
| 20:18.42 | MoDaX | I know, i'm just wondering whether is debian problem or general one |
| 20:19.02 | annma | well arts is working fine on my machine, self compiled kde |
| 20:19.13 | annma | maybe it depends of your audio card |
| 20:19.18 | MoDaX | thanks |
| 20:19.38 | annma | I never had problems myself, amarok can use the xine engine in its latest version |
| 20:19.46 | annma | but I guess you have 3.3 |
| 20:19.53 | annma | not pre 3.4 |
| 20:20.05 | MoDaX | yep. i have 3.3.2 |
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| 20:20.36 | MoDaX | is 3.4b1 enough stable to be usable? |
| 20:20.43 | annma | of course |
| 20:21.03 | annma | I mean, it also depends of your use but a normal 1-user use is ok |
| 20:21.11 | annma | I use kde from cvs head |
| 20:21.33 | annma | my machine is used for email, browsing, music and developing |
| 20:21.57 | MoDaX | who many konq crashes a day? :) |
| 20:22.01 | MoDaX | how |
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| 20:22.11 | annma | it does not |
| 20:22.16 | annma | in fact nothing crashes |
| 20:22.44 | annma | I use konq with lots of tabs |
| 20:23.13 | MoDaX | I remember using 3.1.9x all the time till 3.2 got released. konq used to crash quite often |
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| 20:23.27 | Borg^Queen | Hello humans |
| 20:23.29 | Renze | 'lo borgy |
| 20:23.40 | Borg^Queen | Hey Renze still up? |
| 20:23.52 | Renze | um, it's 9:23am :) |
| 20:24.35 | annma | MoDaX: well 3.4 beta is probably the stabler I ever saw |
| 20:24.50 | Borg^Queen | Don't you sleep in late? |
| 20:25.00 | Renze | Borg^Queen: only if I stay up late |
| 20:25.11 | Borg^Queen | Ah |
| 20:25.26 | Borg^Queen | I am SOO proud of myself. I had my first productive tech call with a XP client. |
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| 20:25.43 | annma | :> |
| 20:25.49 | Borg^Queen | While he jabbered on, I created a kool LCARS wallpaper |
| 20:25.59 | annma | lol |
| 20:26.03 | MoDaX | I'll try it then. wanna test new kdm features esp. fast user switching |
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| 20:26.25 | annma | MoDaX: compile arts first |
| 20:26.30 | annma | then kdelibs |
| 20:27.04 | Borg^Queen | brb food |
| 20:28.40 | annma | hey! |
| 20:28.51 | annma | Borg^Queen: he just fixed a nasty bug |
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| 20:28.59 | annma | leave his brain in peace!!! |
| 20:29.04 | Borg^Queen | What bug? |
| 20:29.07 | brainZzZ | sammy hagar claims that aliens downloaded his brain in 1968 at the age of 19 |
| 20:29.12 | psycho_ | what do i do after i compile kde? |
| 20:29.18 | psycho_ | and do the exports? |
| 20:29.23 | psycho_ | just restart? |
| 20:29.27 | Renze | I suspect that brainZzZ is a bot |
| 20:29.33 | brainZzZ | i think playr101 is a bot |
| 20:29.38 | annma | Borg^Queen: a KsCD bug with some CD drivers like mine |
| 20:29.53 | Borg^Queen | Oooh, nice aseigo |
| 20:29.57 | annma | if it's a bit we should kick it |
| 20:30.03 | annma | a bot |
| 20:30.04 | Borg^Queen | brb food |
| 20:30.09 | annma | fooooooooooood! |
| 20:30.20 | aseigo | Borg^Queen: wow. my brain is suddenly working better. thanks =) |
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| 20:30.32 | brainZzZ | and my brain isnt fried |
| 20:30.35 | aseigo | and who knew it would only take a chewing |
| 20:30.39 | Borg^Queen | aseigo: gross |
| 20:30.54 | aseigo | gross? your the one who did all the ucky work =) |
| 20:30.54 | Borg^Queen | Nope, it's BBQ |
| 20:31.24 | Borg^Queen | `LOL |
| 20:31.32 | Borg^Queen | Need to go... |
| 20:31.35 | Borg^Queen | BBL. |
| 20:32.32 | Renze | I suspect that brainZzZ is a bot |
| 20:32.38 | brainZzZ | maxxumite Renze is a bot |
| 20:32.46 | Renze | yup, definitely a bot |
| 20:32.54 | Borg^Queen | He is. |
| 20:33.33 | annma | it is |
| 20:33.35 | Renze | kick its shiny metal ass |
| 20:33.39 | Borg^Queen | rotfl |
| 20:33.45 | annma | lol |
| 20:33.45 | Borg^Queen | Yeah but Renze said |
| 20:34.06 | annma | a bot, a man, same thing |
| 20:34.10 | canllaith | does anyone here burn using k3b on a 2.6 kernel? :) |
| 20:34.18 | annma | yeah! me! |
| 20:34.21 | annma | it works! |
| 20:34.25 | canllaith | annma: which one? :) |
| 20:34.27 | Renze | works here |
| 20:34.30 | sredna | Works fine here, canllaith |
| 20:34.30 | annma | while my Nero does not work |
| 20:34.34 | canllaith | Excellent |
| 20:34.35 | lippel | works with 2.6.9 |
| 20:34.45 | annma | canllaith: Linux localhost 2.6.8.1-12mdk #1 Fri Oct 1 12:53:41 CEST 2004 i686 unknown unknown GNU/Linux |
| 20:34.47 | canllaith | oh great, good to hear it :) |
| 20:34.48 | Renze | 2.6.10, k3b 0.11.18 |
| 20:34.54 | canllaith | 2.6.7 |
| 20:34.59 | canllaith | that is what I am still on heh |
| 20:35.05 | brainZzZ | could you check to see if I am still on the bots, and if I am add my host |
| 20:35.19 | canllaith | but hal is on 2.6.10 |
| 20:35.20 | Borg^Queen | 2.6 has problems buring? |
| 20:35.35 | canllaith | Borg^Queen: well cdrecord couldn't be run setuid root for some certain versions |
| 20:35.39 | annma | k3b is a star |
| 20:35.40 | canllaith | which is how most people run it |
| 20:35.48 | Borg^Queen | Oh |
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| 20:35.53 | Borg^Queen | Has it been resolved? |
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| 20:36.08 | canllaith | Well not as such |
| 20:36.09 | Renze | Borg^Queen: looks that way... did a test burn yesterday |
| 20:36.15 | Borg^Queen | And? |
| 20:36.23 | Renze | it worked |
| 20:36.32 | canllaith | the kernel simply does not allow setuid root to access the scsi subsystem if I have it straight |
| 20:36.38 | canllaith | but there are other ways of doing it rather than setuid root. |
| 20:37.23 | Borg^Queen | Such as? |
| 20:37.36 | canllaith | creating a burn group, burning as root, lots of ways. |
| 20:37.52 | Borg^Queen | Aye, a burn group is what I have |
| 20:38.02 | annma | gotta go, bye all! |
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| 20:38.21 | Borg^Queen | She's at work and isn't supposed to be chatting lol |
| 20:38.26 | Borg^Queen | Isn't she |
| 20:42.27 | Borg^Queen | OK I'm off. |
| 20:43.01 | h | later everyone! thanks again for your help |
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| 20:50.30 | [sLiM] | what do i do after I compile 3.4.1? |
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| 21:06.57 | absinthe | eep, amarok would be really cool if it didn't crash every 5.2 minutes |
| 21:09.02 | lippel | absinthe: heh, exactly. |
| 21:09.11 | lippel | absinthe: do you use cvs? |
| 21:09.35 | absinthe | lippel: nope |
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| 21:19.15 | Aondo | hmm after switching from xinerama mode to only dual-screen mode, KDE still thinks it's in xinerama mode. |
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| 21:20.42 | aseigo | Aondo: i'm assuming you restarted X and KDE? |
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| 21:22.09 | Aondo | yes, you have to restart X to change from xinerama. |
| 21:22.22 | Aondo | not all of kde still think its in the old mode |
| 21:22.32 | Aondo | just some of the panels |
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| 21:25.11 | Aondo | if i change one setting, it wont change, but the setting it self change. so i just sat it to what i want. and restarted the kde. :D |
| 21:26.01 | aseigo | ah, yes.. the panel doesn't switch between Xin and dual head very well. |
| 21:26.04 | aseigo | nor will it ever |
| 21:26.17 | aseigo | due to the vastly different semantics between the two |
| 21:26.41 | Aondo | hehe yea, i noticed. |
| 21:26.46 | aseigo | well, we COULD record whether we were in dual head previously, and then make all sorts of wacky assumptions about screen numbering and try to arrange things on dual head ... |
| 21:27.26 | aseigo | but it wouldn't be 100% perfect and it's a lot of work to support something that's rather rare, fixable by the user and a configuration i personally view as somewhat broken (dual head) |
| 21:27.32 | Aondo | xinerama it self is abit buggy too. |
| 21:27.42 | Aondo | so thats why i changed |
| 21:30.14 | Aondo | if someone got the time and knowledge to fix it, I'LL PAY! :P hehe |
| 21:32.08 | aseigo | Aondo: buggy in which way(s)? |
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| 21:35.32 | Aondo | some programs couldnt handle it. vmware got wild with its colors. everything on monitor1(where i started vmware) got strange colors on icons and text. and mozilla firefox couldnt start with X shared memory. |
| 21:35.41 | Aondo | thats two things of what i remember. |
| 21:36.23 | Aondo | i guess it can be the nvidia driver on some of that. |
| 21:36.41 | aseigo | hrm.. firefox works on xin... vmware and some other apps might indeed have issues. those are bugs in the apps though =( |
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| 21:37.30 | Aondo | firefox runs with that --no-xshm option, so that's no problem. |
| 21:40.38 | Aondo | in kde it self there was no bug what i could see, except it could be some more desktop and panel features. I'm no coder, so no complains from me. :) |
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| 21:44.04 | krilly | Anyone know a good source KDE themes apart from kde-look.org? |
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| 21:46.21 | ximpul | hey i am using the lates version of kde and it forgets the gnome theme each time i end a kde session, once i reload and fire up the gnome theme manager the correct theme comes back but the fonts in kde are too big. any ideas? |
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| 21:49.56 | PhilRod | ximpul: in control center -> app. & themes -> colours, there's an option 'apply kde colous to non-kde apps;. Try unchecking that |
| 21:52.03 | ximpul | ok brb |
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| 21:53.53 | ximpul | PhilRod-> nope, still happening |
| 21:55.26 | ximpul | hmm brb going to try something else |
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| 21:56.08 | PhilRod | hiya illogic-al :-) |
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| 22:30.00 | agiofws | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:30.23 | agiofws | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:31.35 | sredna | agiofws: You should set the association for the text/html mimetype |
| 22:32.07 | sredna | agiofws: It's possible that the server gives you a bad mimetype, otherwise it should work with the default setup |
| 22:33.47 | agiofws | sredna: its simple...if i changethe extension to html ...konq opens the pages normaly but thats not a solution because in the source code the links are foo.bar.php....got it? |
| 22:34.35 | chavo | agiofws, you want konq to render local php files? |
| 22:35.20 | agiofws | chakie: CAN someone tell me how can i make konqueror or mozila or whatever filemanager to open a downloaded page with a *.php extension? |
| 22:35.25 | sredna | agiofws: Kde bases the app on mimetype. When a php script is requested from a web server, it is usually outputting text/html |
| 22:35.30 | agiofws | chavo: CAN someone tell me how can i make konqueror or mozila or whatever filemanager to open a downloaded page with a *.php extension? |
| 22:35.42 | sredna | agiofws: Dooh |
| 22:35.59 | sredna | agiofws: Change the mimetype for php |
| 22:36.11 | sredna | agiofws: But know that that is a wrong path to take |
| 22:36.12 | chavo | agiofws, if you want to render a local php file, you need a webserver and php installed, running and properly configured. |
| 22:36.28 | agiofws | sredna: i used wget to download pages from a site . |
| 22:37.01 | sredna | agiofws: Then rename them, as what you get is not php but HTML |
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| 22:37.13 | agiofws | guys i haave download the pages i just want to VEIW them simple.. |
| 22:37.18 | Renze | agiofws: php is server-side scripting... it needs to be parsed through a server |
| 22:37.35 | sredna | Renze: Agiofws downloaded the URLS with wget |
| 22:37.40 | Renze | agiofws: if you want to view it locally, install apache and php |
| 22:37.45 | sredna | So he have HTML files with php extension |
| 22:37.49 | sredna | Which is silly |
| 22:37.50 | Renze | sredna: then he's an idiot :) |
| 22:38.00 | sredna | Renze: You said that, not me |
| 22:38.09 | chavo | lol that's going out on a limb Renze |
| 22:38.09 | Renze | sredna: yes, I did :) |
| 22:38.23 | sredna | agiofws: Rename your files... you could use some batch renamer like krename |
| 22:38.26 | agiofws | sredna: i did rename....them,,,,,,but for the WHOLE thing to work i have to CHANGE all the links foo.bar.php to foo.bar.khtml......right? |
| 22:38.28 | Renze | chavo: I call it as I see it :) |
| 22:38.32 | brainZzZ | the linksys wrt54g works fine with centrinos |
| 22:38.33 | sarah03 | agiofws: At a shell: 'for i in *.php; do cat $i | sed -e 's/.php/.html/g' > $(basename $i .php).html; done' |
| 22:39.40 | sredna | agiofws: perl -pi.bak -e 's,\.php,.html,g' * |
| 22:39.57 | sredna | sarah03: Lol :-) |
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| 22:40.41 | agiofws | sarah03: sredna I DID that ....! it does not work....though because the source code of the pages have foo.bar.php links.......so when i click on them the say canot find the file which is logical did you get it now..? |
| 22:41.14 | Renze | I rest my case |
| 22:41.18 | sarah03 | agiofws: The shellcode that I just stuck up there also edits the .php files to change the links from foo.php -> foo.html. |
| 22:41.22 | sredna | ROFL |
| 22:41.36 | sredna | agiofws: So does my command |
| 22:42.50 | agiofws | sredna: sarah03 yes i think i'm starting to get the picteure now.. |
| 22:45.02 | agiofws | sredna: $(basename $i .php).html; what does this do ? |
| 22:45.55 | sarah03 | agiofws: Replaces the .php extension with .html. |
| 22:46.18 | agiofws | sarah03: in the php files? |
| 22:46.23 | agiofws | how... |
| 22:46.26 | sarah03 | That changes just the file name. |
| 22:46.27 | sredna | agiofws: The filenames |
| 22:46.41 | sarah03 | The "sed -e 's/.php/.html/g'" changes the body of the file. |
| 22:46.43 | chowells | you can use perl to do fine and replace in filenames |
| 22:46.48 | chowells | find |
| 22:47.08 | agiofws | sredna: oh i thought it did that aswell... |
| 22:47.14 | sredna | agiofws: The command sarah03 typed will create a edited copy of each file with a .html extension instead of .php |
| 22:47.31 | sarah03 | I avoid perl because it's got a tendency to look like line noise IMO. |
| 22:48.24 | agiofws | sredna: i had done that already..... |
| 22:48.38 | sredna | agiofws: Done what? Renamed the files? |
| 22:48.58 | sredna | agiofws: In that case,use this: |
| 22:49.08 | agiofws | the main prob was how to get into the php or html files and subsitute php with html? |
| 22:49.09 | sredna | agiofws: perl -pi.php -e 's,\.php,.html,g' * |
| 22:49.47 | sredna | agiofws: That will supstitute in the files, after creating a unmodified copy with php extension |
| 22:50.14 | agiofws | sredna: could we do that with sed? |
| 22:50.23 | sredna | agiofws: Yes |
| 22:50.36 | agiofws | sredna: its just i don't know what it does.... |
| 22:51.12 | sredna | It works fine |
| 22:51.42 | sredna | It will replace each occurrence of '.php' with '.html' in your files |
| 22:51.57 | sredna | After creating a backup <filename>.php |
| 22:53.21 | agiofws | sredna: :) lts0040.html rantings.php* wss0010.html.php wss0070.html wss0120.php.php* |
| 22:53.21 | agiofws | index.chg* lts0040.html.php rantings.php.php* wss0010.php* wss0070.html.php wss0130.html |
| 22:53.22 | agiofws | index.chg.php* lts0040.php* script_library.html wss0010.php.php* wss0070.php* wss0130.html.php |
| 22:53.22 | agiofws | index.html lts0040.php.php |
| 22:53.35 | agiofws | whops sorry for that |
| 22:53.59 | agiofws | well just into shell scripting and now perlcomes up... |
| 22:54.21 | sredna | agiofws: You said you did rename all the files |
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| 22:55.25 | sredna | It looks like you did not |
| 22:55.46 | agiofws | sredna: it works though.....due to the perl command..... its now i ihave 4 instances of the same file... |
| 22:55.58 | brainZzZ | Dutch is often confused with Deutsch, the German word for German. English Dutch, German Deutsch, and Dutch Dietsch are actually variations of the same word. |
| 22:56.00 | agiofws | just have to tidy it up... |
| 22:56.09 | sredna | agiofws: Well, remove the unwanted ones |
| 22:56.14 | agiofws | this is what i did to rename all of them |
| 22:56.22 | agiofws | sredna: yeah... |
| 22:56.23 | Renze | isn't anybody gonna kick that bot? |
| 22:56.26 | sredna | agiofws: Each time you run one of those commands we showed you, it creates backups |
| 22:56.37 | sredna | Renze: Which bot? |
| 22:56.41 | Renze | brainZzZ |
| 22:56.42 | brainZzZ | Renze you meet me on #***chat? |
| 22:56.48 | Renze | see? |
| 22:56.50 | agiofws | yeah i had done it witho ut creating backups... |
| 22:57.02 | agiofws | wait |
| 22:58.09 | sredna | agiofws: For the perl command, you can do 'perl -pie <script>' and it will not do backups -- perl -pi does backups only if there is a string directly following the 'I' |
| 22:59.00 | agiofws | for i in *.php ; do echo wss0160.php | sed -e 's/\.[^=]*//';done | while read f ; do mv .php .html ; done ====>to change the file names but i changed them back....afterwards.. |
| 22:59.17 | agiofws | whoops thats wrong |
| 22:59.36 | agiofws | for i in *.php ; do echo $i | sed -e 's/\.[^=]*//';done | while read f ; do mv .php .html ; done ====>to change the file names but i changed them back....afterwards.. |
| 22:59.59 | agiofws | its wrong again.. |
| 23:00.49 | *** mode/#kde [+o PhilRod] by ChanServ |
| 23:00.50 | *** kick/#kde [brainZzZ!~phil@dh22.chch.ox.ac.uk] by PhilRod (PhilRod) |
| 23:00.50 | Renze | thank you, PhilRod :) |
| 23:00.54 | agiofws | for i in *.php ; do echo $i | sed -e 's/\.[^=]*//';done | while read f ; do mv $f.php $f.html ; done ===thats it |
| 23:02.06 | PhilRod | np Renze. Hopefully it won't come back. I don't want to have to put a ban on |
| 23:02.25 | Renze | PhilRod: well, it didn't autorejoin... that's a good sign |
| 23:02.37 | *** mode/#kde [-o PhilRod] by PhilRod |
| 23:05.20 | agiofws | sredna: thanks && sarah03 : |
| 23:05.35 | sredna | agiofws: Np :) |
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| 23:05.57 | sarah03 | :) |
| 23:06.05 | _poison | hi ^^ |
| 23:06.39 | agiofws | but i'll stick to shell scripting for the time.. |
| 23:06.57 | sredna | Ho, _poison |
| 23:07.10 | agiofws | the interesting thing is that you can do the same thing iin many different ways |
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| 23:17.34 | Dhraakellian | is there any way to quickly show/hide the preview pane in kmail? |
| 23:17.48 | Dhraakellian | (no, I don't mean dragging it down so that you can't see it.) |
| 23:18.54 | Dhraakellian | (since selecting messages still marks them as read that way, even when the top of the preview pane is all the way down at the bottom of the window) |
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| 23:20.49 | sredna | Dhraakellian: There is no action for that it seems |
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| 23:21.14 | Scognito | hi all |
| 23:21.18 | Scognito | lauri, you here? |
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| 23:28.54 | Dhraakellian | sredna: hrm |
| 23:30.16 | Dhraakellian | since everything else seems to have gotten one |
| 23:30.31 | sredna | Right :) |
| 23:30.35 | sredna | Good idea |
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| 23:34.10 | Sioux | 8-) |
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| 23:39.31 | rdancer | hi. i'd nead someone to proofread the ISO-3167-2 country subdivision codes for slovak republic, for the iso-codes debian package |
| 23:40.16 | rdancer | they are surprisingly botched -- or at least so it seems -- in the package |
| 23:40.39 | rdancer | some slovak-speaking person around here? |
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