| 00:00.03 | serisoris | ok thanks lignux |
| 00:00.24 | lignux | You're welcome |
| 00:00.44 | lignux | Read that guide though; and have a browse at tldp.org, there are other useful guides there as well |
| 00:00.54 | lignux | Are you a system administrator? |
| 00:01.15 | serisoris | no i am student |
| 00:01.22 | lignux | Ok |
| 00:01.55 | lignux | And you want other users on that machine to be able to see your files? |
| 00:02.03 | serisoris | and at school it isn't possible to learn some about linux |
| 00:02.14 | MrGrim | oops |
| 00:02.25 | MrGrim | hmm Cyanophytes is gonna be in trouble |
| 00:02.39 | MrGrim | I forgot to tell him to setup a ~/.xinitrc and to use startx |
| 00:02.43 | MrGrim | O_o |
| 00:02.54 | MrGrim | if he remembers startx... he's gonna be stuck in twm I think :D |
| 00:03.00 | serisoris | yes lignux |
| 00:03.21 | lignux | serisoris: ok |
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| 00:03.38 | lignux | serisoris: What distribution do you use? |
| 00:03.54 | lignux | er |
| 00:03.54 | serisoris | kubuntu |
| 00:03.55 | lignux | ok |
| 00:04.13 | serisoris | i have installed it 3 days ago |
| 00:04.33 | lignux | Oh, so you are the administrator |
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| 00:05.03 | serisoris | yes lignux |
| 00:05.06 | lignux | ok |
| 00:05.07 | apokryphos | serisoris: kstart > Utilities > Users and Groups |
| 00:05.19 | serisoris | sorry i didnt understand your question first |
| 00:05.21 | apokryphos | make all users in the same group, and specify the permissions they're allowed. |
| 00:05.22 | serisoris | :) |
| 00:05.26 | lignux | serisoris: Chances are good they already can see your files |
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| 00:06.10 | Cyanophytes | MrGrim: it worked |
| 00:06.34 | MrGrim | Cyanophytes: oh good I was worried you might not be able to get back into kde |
| 00:06.54 | Cyanophytes | now just have to get it so x runs kde instead or gnome |
| 00:07.06 | MrGrim | lol |
| 00:07.10 | MrGrim | Cyanophytes: do this: |
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| 00:07.27 | MrGrim | echo startkde > ~/.xinitrc |
| 00:07.41 | MrGrim | then shut down X and start it back with startx |
| 00:08.30 | Jarn | if he had gdm he could do it that way |
| 00:08.35 | Jarn | i dunno about kdm |
| 00:08.42 | Jarn | and xdm is the worst program EVER |
| 00:08.47 | lignux | Why? |
| 00:08.49 | lignux | It works fine |
| 00:08.52 | Jarn | doesnt give you any option |
| 00:08.56 | Jarn | Name: Pass: thats it |
| 00:09.03 | lignux | Sure it does, you just have to pass them on the command line |
| 00:09.07 | Jarn | well, the worse display manage |
| 00:09.10 | oggb4mp3_ | what else do you need |
| 00:09.12 | Cyanophytes | ok one problem I don't have any menus or anything in this gnome setup but have access to the filesystem directories though |
| 00:09.26 | oggb4mp3_ | on something you see for about 3 seconds once a day |
| 00:09.35 | MrGrim | Cyanophytes: well if you don't want to run gnome don't worry about it |
| 00:09.37 | Jarn | oggb4mp3: ...reboot? shutdown? switch from gnome to kde? |
| 00:09.43 | MrGrim | ctrl-alt-backspace, run that command, and start back up |
| 00:09.45 | MrGrim | you should then be in kde |
| 00:10.14 | lignux | gdm and kdm are both based on xdm |
| 00:10.15 | Jarn | how do I install a theme from a file |
| 00:10.24 | lignux | Jarn: You don't |
| 00:10.28 | Jarn | i dont? |
| 00:10.31 | lignux | No |
| 00:10.37 | lignux | Just like printing |
| 00:10.39 | MrGrim | Jarn: there is no sense in argueing with the minimalists... it's a disease, and it works no better than telling a schizo to not be schizophrenic |
| 00:10.43 | lignux | It's something you just don't do |
| 00:11.00 | Jarn | ...how do i though, if i DID do it? |
| 00:11.06 | Jarn | MrGrim: Heh. |
| 00:11.16 | lignux | I never use the display manager |
| 00:11.26 | Jarn | you probably never reboot either |
| 00:11.26 | MrGrim | maybe with some shock therapy and a lot of drugs they'd come around |
| 00:11.26 | lauri | argh |
| 00:11.39 | Jarn | and rehabilitative therapy |
| 00:11.40 | lignux | Jarn: no I don't, but when I do, I use telinit 6 |
| 00:11.46 | lauri | don't shut X down with ctrl-alt-backspace (it's a hard kill, like hitting the reset button on your computer) |
| 00:12.16 | lignux | lauri: What's the good way? init 3? |
| 00:12.41 | lignux | kill -HUP `pidof X` && kill `pidof X`? |
| 00:13.10 | lauri | if you're running k|x|w|gdm, and just want to run whatever is in .xinitrc, then symlink .xsession to it, make sure it's executable, and tehre you have it (that'll be a 'custom' session in kdm, and it'll be just what runs if you have xdm |
| 00:13.16 | dwango | killall X |
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| 00:13.30 | serisoris | goodnight everyone |
| 00:13.32 | oggb4mp3_ | jarn: who needs more than KDE :p |
| 00:13.33 | serisoris | byee |
| 00:13.39 | Jarn | haha |
| 00:13.56 | Jarn | well, halt and reboot are good so i dont have to give out my root pass. :P |
| 00:13.58 | lauri | init and runlevels are not portable between distributions (or operating systems, so I can't give you any advice there, but yes, killall X is better by far than ctrl-alt-backspace (actually logging out of it, woudl be the proper way) |
| 00:14.01 | oggb4mp3_ | and normal users shouldn't be allowed to shutdown or reboot |
| 00:14.12 | lignux | oggb4mp3_: People who still refuse to believe Qt is licensed under the GPL? |
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| 00:14.18 | Jarn | yes they should |
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| 00:14.20 | Jarn | this is for home |
| 00:14.22 | Jarn | not a network |
| 00:14.25 | lauri | if you're not using KDE, put an exec xterm as the last thing in your .xinitrc/.xsession, and then simply logging out of that will log out of X |
| 00:14.34 | oggb4mp3_ | lignux: it's not? |
| 00:14.38 | lignux | lauri: I'm assuming we're already logged out |
| 00:14.49 | lignux | oggb4mp3_: No, it is |
| 00:14.54 | lauri | then X won't be running any more will it :) |
| 00:14.59 | Jarn | oggb4mp3: if some dirty windows user doesnt GRUB fast enough, what then? unplug my como?!?! |
| 00:15.04 | lignux | lauri: Sure it will, you'll see the GM |
| 00:15.06 | Jarn | comp^ |
| 00:15.20 | lauri | lignux: please, don't bring up that stuff, it's just confusing for people who don't have the history, and boring as hell for those who do |
| 00:15.31 | lauri | lignux: and kdm has shutdown options available there, if you allow them |
| 00:15.40 | oggb4mp3_ | bah, you have windows on the box too, blech |
| 00:15.45 | lignux | lauri: haha |
| 00:15.56 | lignux | lauri: I forget; how do you disallow that? |
| 00:16.02 | Jarn | nod. what else am i gonna game with? i bought an ATI before i had linux |
| 00:16.09 | Jarn | and the drivers made of suck |
| 00:16.11 | lauri | in the kcontrol module for kdm |
| 00:16.24 | lignux | lauri: in the kdmrc? |
| 00:16.25 | lauri | maybe a game console? |
| 00:16.34 | lignux | hmm |
| 00:16.43 | lignux | I'm gonna wipe this computer |
| 00:16.43 | Jarn | game consoles are expensive |
| 00:16.44 | lignux | bbl |
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| 00:16.47 | lauri | lignux: use the kcontrol module |
| 00:16.52 | gregday_ | thank you kde3.4 for wiping my config! UNF! MAY I HAVE ANOTHER |
| 00:16.56 | grepper | ok, sorry if this is a faq, but things have changed for 3.4 it appears for fast user switching and Xservers file is no longer used or enough . . . |
| 00:17.00 | Jarn | lol |
| 00:17.05 | Espectro | hey guys, with kde 3.3.x the konsole sounds sounded on the sound card, now on kde 3.4 they sound on the pc speaker |
| 00:17.10 | Espectro | how can i fix this? |
| 00:17.19 | lauri | gregday_: gosh, how'd you pull that off :) |
| 00:17.43 | lignux | gregday_: Just restore it from you backup...which you /do/ have, right? |
| 00:17.57 | gregday_ | lauri: i install the unofficial slackware pkgs, startx, and my kicker and desktop are all the kde default, as well as my font settings, style, |
| 00:18.04 | sarah03 | Backup? What are those? |
| 00:18.05 | lauri | Espectro: kcontrol -> pick 'search' -> type 'bell', look at the options made available to you |
| 00:18.13 | lauri | yahuh |
| 00:18.15 | lauri | unofficial packages |
| 00:18.15 | gregday_ | lignux: well i can recreate my config in no time, ive done it plenty. |
| 00:18.18 | lignux | gregday_: Whose packages? |
| 00:18.25 | lauri | but it's kde's fault |
| 00:18.29 | lauri | except, that nobody else is reporting this :) |
| 00:18.33 | gregday_ | lauri: no, it's my fault :) |
| 00:18.47 | lauri | ok, go find a nice newspaper |
| 00:18.55 | lauri | roll it up and smack yourself over the head for me :) |
| 00:19.05 | gregday_ | ha |
| 00:19.13 | lignux | Whose packages? |
| 00:19.25 | lignux | There isn't one set of unofficial packages |
| 00:19.29 | gregday_ | posted to LP |
| 00:19.32 | gregday_ | -jim |
| 00:19.32 | lignux | Ok |
| 00:19.35 | lignux | Jim's |
| 00:19.46 | lignux | Does zeroconf:/ work? |
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| 00:21.06 | kilrae | i used packages, no losie setup |
| 00:21.32 | Espectro | lauri: i tried "configure notifications" from the konsole menu, and i put the default sound, in sound preview it works but when i test it in konsole now it doesn't sound anything |
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| 00:25.30 | lauri | how about the system bell? did you make sure it was set to use the system notifications, not the real system bell? |
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| 00:26.27 | Espectro | yes, that is the default |
| 00:26.30 | canllaith | mornin lauri :) |
| 00:26.47 | lauri | hey :) |
| 00:26.48 | Espectro | weird, now the beep doesn't even sound on the pc speaker, and i used the default buttons to go back |
| 00:26.59 | lauri | I'm going to bed :) |
| 00:27.17 | canllaith | Sleep well :) |
| 00:27.27 | grepper | hi canllaith |
| 00:28.17 | grepper | djou know about "fast user switching" in 3.4 ? Someone was asking me about it in #debian-kde and it appears the Xservers file is not used or enough any more. |
| 00:28.31 | canllaith | It's in the faq :) |
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| 00:30.26 | canllaith | Exactly *where* I'm not sure heh |
| 00:30.49 | canllaith | Ahah |
| 00:30.51 | canllaith | http://docs.kde.org/en/HEAD/kdebase/faq/configure.html#id2877262 |
| 00:33.06 | grepper | yeah, its in help:/kdm but is pitched to developers it seems ;) |
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| 00:35.02 | grepper | heh, help:/kdm in firefox gives a page about antidepressents and psychtrophic drugs :P |
| 00:35.50 | canllaith | LOL |
| 00:35.55 | Jarn | lol |
| 00:35.58 | canllaith | '...... which you'll need if you attempt to configure KDM!' |
| 00:36.58 | Jarn | how did you get it to bring up help:/kdm |
| 00:37.08 | Jarn | when i do it redirects me to http://help/kdm |
| 00:37.11 | Jarn | and i get no page error |
| 00:37.11 | Jarn | :P |
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| 00:37.31 | grepper | canllaith: yeah, I was there, its a bit obtuse for me though |
| 00:37.58 | grepper | hm, it appears you can still use the Xservers file though |
| 00:39.27 | grepper | " If the value starts with a slash (/), it specifies the file, where X-servers to be used by KDM are listed; the file is in the usual XDM-Xservers format. Otherwise it's interpreted like one line of the Xservers file, i.e., it specifies exactly one X-server." |
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| 00:43.43 | grepper | jarn: probably I have it set to " Google's I feel lucky" |
| 00:43.44 | kilrae | shouldn't invisible people pick up a layer of dust and little air particles that would make them at least partly visible? |
| 00:43.51 | Cyanophytes | MrGrim: works great |
| 00:44.37 | Cyanophytes | MrGrim: just have to fix this problem that lets me exit kde but won't let me start it up again |
| 00:45.09 | Cyanophytes | where does x store config files? |
| 00:45.17 | MrGrim | huh? |
| 00:45.24 | MrGrim | what do you mean won't let you start it up again? |
| 00:46.14 | Cyanophytes | after I log out of kde when I type startx again it just goes to a blank screen |
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| 00:47.20 | revelater | hey |
| 00:47.25 | choisy | hi there |
| 00:47.47 | revelater | i got a problem, maybe you can point me in the right direction> |
| 00:48.12 | cartel_ | whats your problem |
| 00:48.20 | revelater | printer |
| 00:48.41 | cartel_ | what kind of printer |
| 00:48.58 | revelater | cannon pixima ip3000 |
| 00:49.07 | revelater | its new |
| 00:49.11 | Jarn | i have printer problems too, with my Compaq 1400P. :( |
| 00:49.13 | cartel_ | heh |
| 00:49.15 | cartel_ | is it usb? |
| 00:49.20 | revelater | yup |
| 00:49.34 | cartel_ | does it have support for linux? |
| 00:49.38 | revelater | nope |
| 00:49.40 | revelater | well |
| 00:49.44 | Cyanophytes | I have a problem in one of my system's x config files it looks like it tries to load a mouse twice |
| 00:49.50 | revelater | actually, kindof, through turbo print |
| 00:49.55 | cartel_ | move along, nothing to see here |
| 00:49.58 | cartel_ | turboprint? |
| 00:50.06 | revelater | yah |
| 00:51.00 | cartel_ | never used |
| 00:51.05 | cartel_ | out of my hands sorry :) |
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| 00:51.18 | revelater | but that is not important, suffice it to say i get an error message like this: |
| 00:51.21 | revelater | There was an error loading kdeprint_lpd. The diagnostic is: |
| 00:51.22 | revelater | Library files for "kdeprint_lpd.la" not found in paths. |
| 00:51.45 | cartel_ | ok |
| 00:51.57 | revelater | how can i fix that? |
| 00:52.26 | cartel_ | cd / |
| 00:52.32 | cartel_ | find -name kdeprint_lpd.la |
| 00:53.41 | cartel_ | add that path in /etc/ld.so.conf |
| 00:53.46 | cartel_ | ldconfig |
| 00:53.55 | cartel_ | or. hmm |
| 00:54.01 | cartel_ | have you got kdeprint installed? |
| 00:54.09 | revelater | apt-get says i do |
| 00:54.56 | revelater | i don't think it found anything... |
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| 00:55.20 | cartel_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:55.35 | Jarn | cartel, think you could help me too with my printer problems? |
| 00:55.42 | Jarn | i think i have it configured right with cups |
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| 00:55.49 | Jarn | but ill show you the error i get |
| 00:56.09 | Jarn | http://rafb.net/paste/results/bwgku038.html |
| 00:56.16 | Jarn | i set it to debug output |
| 00:56.52 | cartel_ | http://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/2003/03/msg00025.html |
| 00:57.48 | revelater | maybe i need to configure cups, how do i do that? |
| 00:58.06 | cartel_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:58.11 | cartel_ | that is your problem jarn... |
| 00:58.26 | Jarn | okay |
| 00:58.52 | cartel_ | revelater apt-get install cupsys |
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| 00:58.58 | cartel_ | then use the web frontend to configure |
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| 00:59.32 | revelater | got some wierd unmet dependancies |
| 01:00.52 | Cyanophytes | what do I type to see network card configuration? |
| 01:00.52 | cartel_ | Jarn: that looks like it is included in the driver distribution, perhaps do a find for it |
| 01:01.06 | cartel_ | Cyanophytes: man ifconfig |
| 01:01.24 | cartel_ | Jarn: it may need to be moved to /usr/local/bin or something for foomatic to find it |
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| 01:02.00 | purestorm | Hi, how is the application called that asked me what mouse behaviour/gfx features I wanted? |
| 01:02.03 | purestorm | I want to start ita gain. |
| 01:02.06 | Jarn | what may need to be moved there? |
| 01:02.17 | cartel_ | Jarn: z42_cmyk |
| 01:02.51 | revelater | it killed kdm!!! |
| 01:02.54 | purestorm | n/m found it |
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| 01:03.15 | revelater | restarting |
| 01:03.23 | cartel_ | revelater: your debian is bung maybe? |
| 01:04.26 | Jarn | cartel_: where is it? |
| 01:05.07 | Jarn | cartel_: i dunno where z42_cmyk is |
| 01:05.24 | cartel_ | Jarn: wherever you installed |
| 01:05.30 | cartel_ | find -name z42_cmyk |
| 01:06.35 | Jarn | i dont have it, it appears |
| 01:06.51 | Jarn | wait, here it goes |
| 01:06.59 | Jarn | apparently it just searched the directory im in |
| 01:07.02 | Jarn | uh oh |
| 01:07.04 | Jarn | i ran it in / |
| 01:07.07 | Jarn | this might take awhile |
| 01:07.09 | Jarn | :( |
| 01:07.45 | cartel_ | hehehe |
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| 01:09.03 | Jarn | its STILL going |
| 01:09.05 | Jarn | :P |
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| 01:10.54 | Cyanophytes | is there a script to reconfigure x after it's been setup |
| 01:10.56 | Jarn | okay, there |
| 01:11.02 | Jarn | yeah |
| 01:11.11 | Jarn | dpk-recofnigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 01:11.16 | Jarn | dpk-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 01:11.26 | Jarn | dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 01:11.31 | Jarn | but that might be only for debian |
| 01:11.32 | Jarn | i dunno |
| 01:11.37 | cartel_ | Jarn: did you find it? |
| 01:11.50 | cartel_ | Cyanophytes: XF86Configure is a safe-ish bet |
| 01:12.00 | Jarn | cartel_: it appears there isnt one... :/ |
| 01:12.18 | Jarn | root@linc:/# find -name z42_cmyk |
| 01:12.18 | Jarn | root@linc:/# |
| 01:12.44 | cartel_ | jarn: bugga |
| 01:13.29 | cartel_ | Jarn: what printer do you have? |
| 01:13.48 | cartel_ | hmm i think revelater killed his debian box.. |
| 01:13.51 | Jarn | cartel_: Compaq 1400{ |
| 01:13.54 | Jarn | haha |
| 01:14.25 | cartel_ | 1400? |
| 01:14.45 | cartel_ | lj1400? |
| 01:15.36 | Jarn | no |
| 01:15.37 | Cyanophytes | to me it seems like it is pretty hard to kill a debian box I have done alot of dumb things and mine still runs |
| 01:15.38 | Jarn | 1400P |
| 01:15.42 | Jarn | thats what it says on it |
| 01:15.44 | Jarn | 1400P |
| 01:16.00 | Jarn | see if it runs if you type rm -rf / |
| 01:16.04 | Jarn | or sudo rm -rf / |
| 01:16.04 | Jarn | :P |
| 01:16.12 | Jarn | anyway |
| 01:16.14 | cartel_ | Cyanophytes: dpkg --remove perl |
| 01:16.17 | Jarn | afk, dinner. be back soon |
| 01:16.29 | Cyanophytes | I will pass on those heh |
| 01:18.12 | Cyanophytes | XF86Configure don't exist or isn't in my path |
| 01:19.12 | cartel_ | Cyanophytes: try xf86configure? |
| 01:19.37 | Cyanophytes | nope |
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| 01:21.15 | Oleg_ | thiago: hi! |
| 01:22.43 | Oleg_ | canllaith: I am scared now to even say hi to you |
| 01:23.03 | thiago | hey Oleg_ |
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| 01:23.52 | Oleg_ | thiago: I installed another free ISP and now I am able to connect to www.teleserial.ru! There was no need to write a webmaster. |
| 01:24.07 | Oleg_ | should there be to after write? |
| 01:24.31 | thiago | Oleg_: I know |
| 01:24.37 | thiago | I got your message from earlier |
| 01:24.43 | Oleg_ | oh, ok :) |
| 01:24.45 | thiago | but you still should write to the webmaster |
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| 01:25.07 | Oleg_ | so, there should be to after the word write |
| 01:25.31 | thiago | huh? |
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| 01:25.44 | Oleg_ | I am talking about the grammar rule |
| 01:25.56 | thiago | ok |
| 01:26.00 | Oleg_ | write a webmaster or write to a webmaster? |
| 01:26.04 | thiago | you write something to someone |
| 01:26.18 | Cyanophytes | what files can I edit to configure network or is ther a config script |
| 01:26.20 | Oleg_ | ok |
| 01:26.31 | Oleg_ | ppp-on |
| 01:26.34 | Oleg_ | ppp-off |
| 01:26.40 | Oleg_ | resolv.conf |
| 01:26.58 | Oleg_ | these are some of the files you need to configure |
| 01:27.08 | grepper | Cyanophytes: /etc/network/interfaces on debian |
| 01:27.17 | grepper | Cyanophytes: man 5 interfaces |
| 01:27.17 | Cyanophytes | ty |
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| 01:27.53 | grepper | should the devices tab in konq sidebar work in 3.4 ? |
| 01:27.59 | grepper | maybe I am missing a package |
| 01:28.07 | Oleg_ | oh, maybe your connection is not ppp |
| 01:28.17 | Oleg_ | but I suspect it is |
| 01:29.59 | Oleg_ | I am waiting for 12 a.m., so I could download files from the soap opera site. |
| 01:31.33 | Oleg_ | lauri: hi |
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| 01:34.03 | Cyanophytes | sorry to be a pest but how do I restart the network to go with new config? |
| 01:35.34 | Oleg_ | If you have ppp, turn off your modem and then turn it on again |
| 01:35.42 | Oleg_ | and dial the network |
| 01:35.51 | Cyanophytes | user ethernet card |
| 01:36.04 | Oleg_ | then I don't know |
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| 01:38.49 | Oleg_ | so, people, all of you already use kde 3.4? |
| 01:39.21 | kilrae | i'm using 3.4.2 |
| 01:39.31 | canllaith | yup, 3.4.0 |
| 01:39.33 | kilrae | thank you gimp |
| 01:40.38 | chavo | 3.4 is so yesterday |
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| 01:41.00 | Oleg_ | canllaith: I am too scared to talk to you now, but I so wanna talk to you. I wish I could do it without breaking the rules. |
| 01:41.19 | choisy | 3.4 is already out? I thought 2.10.0 was the latest release?? ;) |
| 01:41.43 | Jarn | cartel_: back |
| 01:41.56 | Jarn | cartel_: so do you know what i need to do? |
| 01:42.33 | DeuX | whut you guys are still talking about 3.4 ? |
| 01:42.49 | DeuX | people are in 4.0 now!!! |
| 01:43.38 | Jarn | peer |
| 01:44.17 | Oleg_ | we can already download alpha versions of kde 4.0? |
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| 01:46.43 | cartel_ | Jarn: find out what printer you have (its a rebadged lexmark), install drivers for that from lexmark. |
| 01:47.18 | cartel_ | oleg wtf? |
| 01:47.57 | Oleg_ | cartel_: I asked something stupid? |
| 01:48.03 | MrGrim | what package contains the google search bar? |
| 01:48.24 | Oleg_ | kdebase |
| 01:48.33 | cartel_ | <Oleg_> canllaith: I am too scared to talk to you now, but I so wanna talk to you. I wish I could do it without breaking the rules. |
| 01:48.34 | cartel_ | ?? |
| 01:49.10 | Oleg_ | cartel_: You have to know the whole story to understand it |
| 01:49.20 | cartel_ | k |
| 01:49.51 | Jarn | cartel_: how do I find out? |
| 01:51.31 | cartel_ | Jarn: i think it is a Z42 equivalent. look for something with the same specs |
| 01:53.24 | Jarn | cartel_: Just so you know, on that paste bin I used the Z42 drivers out of randomness... |
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| 01:55.04 | cartel_ | Jarn: finding the right driver is a good start |
| 01:55.27 | cartel_ | so what deb package has the akregator plugin for konq in sid? |
| 01:55.28 | diddly | hi, since i upgraded to kde-3.4 my konsole font has changed (ugly), I still have kde-3.3.2 installed and its font looks fine |
| 01:56.48 | Jarn | cartel_: where do I find the specs |
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| 01:57.48 | phxguy | Does anyone Know of a good CD-Burning program for KDE that supports .ISO's |
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| 01:58.03 | felesh | hi |
| 01:58.20 | felesh | What is the best alternative to xchat for kde? |
| 01:58.20 | chavo | phxguy, k3b |
| 01:58.22 | thiago | phxguy: how many CD-Burning apps do you know for KDE? |
| 01:58.29 | thiago | :) |
| 01:59.02 | phxguy | i dunno how many.... |
| 01:59.05 | cartel_ | Jarn: i dont know, i dont have a compaq |
| 01:59.07 | thiago | 1: k3b |
| 01:59.35 | phxguy | chavo: I opened k3b but it wont open the iso that i have |
| 01:59.57 | thiago | what's the error? |
| 01:59.59 | chavo | phxguy, I just burned one with k3b |
| 02:00.15 | phxguy | there wasn't any error just didnt show up in the open window |
| 02:00.39 | felesh | i have a problem, ksirc is very bad, and i am looking for a kde alternative for kde |
| 02:00.47 | felesh | for xchat i mean |
| 02:01.29 | Jarn | felesh: konversation |
| 02:02.07 | chavo | phxguy, go to Tools -> CD -> Burn CD Image |
| 02:02.11 | phxguy | chavo: I can look in my filemanager and see the iso image but k3b doesn't let me open it |
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| 02:02.28 | felesh | thanks Japsu |
| 02:02.30 | felesh | sorry |
| 02:02.36 | felesh | thanks Jarn |
| 02:03.07 | phxguy | chavo: Oh okay.... but i got an error saying that it can only open local files.... and the iso I have is on a windows ntfs partition |
| 02:03.26 | chavo | aha, |
| 02:03.56 | phxguy | do i really have to bring them into my home directory?? |
| 02:03.58 | chavo | Well I just burned a kubuntu daily install CD, so I'm going to go try it out. Later. |
| 02:04.13 | phxguy | im liking kubuntu |
| 02:04.32 | phxguy | seems pretty stable... and not too cut up like ubuntu is |
| 02:04.47 | chavo | I'm going to try it out right now. |
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| 02:05.46 | Jarn | cartel_: hm, the 1200 is for z42 i found out. no luck wit 1400, though |
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| 02:14.10 | MrGrim | Oleg_: lies |
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| 02:15.37 | Jarn | peer |
| 02:15.43 | Jarn | MrGrim, my Konsole broke |
| 02:15.52 | Jarn | when I installed a new Window Decoration |
| 02:16.13 | Jarn | oh, yeah, I forgot Window Decoration affected that |
| 02:16.16 | Jarn | what was it before again? |
| 02:16.34 | MrGrim | Jarn: you'll need to figure out the correct position and size |
| 02:16.49 | Jarn | nod |
| 02:16.49 | Jarn | k |
| 02:16.50 | MrGrim | just start small and add small increments until you get it right |
| 02:16.50 | Jarn | thanks |
| 02:17.28 | MrGrim | start with potision 0,0 and the first number in size to 1280 |
| 02:18.26 | MrGrim | then go backwards with the left # in position until the left border disappears, and backwards with the right # until it stops popping down when you move the mouse to the stop, then add 1 |
| 02:18.36 | MrGrim | then increase the first # in size until you get rid of the right border |
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| 02:19.22 | Jarn | there we go |
| 02:19.25 | Jarn | at -6,-26 |
| 02:19.30 | Jarn | i didnt need to change the size at all |
| 02:19.32 | Jarn | just position |
| 02:22.29 | slayerbob | yay! |
| 02:22.34 | slayerbob | made it online :P |
| 02:22.38 | kilrae | heh, angel: milady, you'll find that, with the exception of an honest day's work, there's no challenge i'm afraid to meet |
| 02:24.37 | MrGrim | Jarn: you might need to |
| 02:24.50 | Oleg_ | slayerbob: hi |
| 02:24.51 | MrGrim | Jarn: if the borders are smaller you might not notice it at first |
| 02:25.23 | MrGrim | shh... don't wake teh beast |
| 02:25.57 | MrGrim | heh |
| 02:26.00 | MrGrim | https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=101221 |
| 02:26.04 | MrGrim | redhat's gone downhill a bit... |
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| 02:28.35 | jsubl2 | phxguy: did u install with the kubuntu cd or ubuntu then install the kubuntu-desktop |
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| 02:31.15 | Jarn | i wish there was a cool windeco that i could change the colors on |
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| 02:32.18 | sarah03 | Jarn: Define "cool |
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| 02:32.22 | sarah03 | :) |
| 02:32.55 | thiago | temperature between 12 and 17 °C |
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| 02:33.04 | Jarn | cool - adj. similar to BlueIce with configurable colors |
| 02:33.07 | Jarn | :P |
| 02:33.18 | sarah03 | thiago: That doesn't mean much in the context of window decorations. |
| 02:33.32 | slayerbob | window decorations can have a temperature :) |
| 02:33.32 | sarah03 | thiago: :p |
| 02:33.42 | slayerbob | of course their temperature is also not useful :P |
| 02:33.58 | thiago | well, my windows are cool to the touch at that temperature |
| 02:34.07 | thiago | it depends on the outside weather :) |
| 02:34.10 | Jarn | know anything similar to blueice with configurable colors |
| 02:34.22 | sarah03 | Jarn: Hm. Most of them that come with KDE you can configure the colors on; I've never actually seen blueice though. |
| 02:35.00 | Jarn | its on kde-look.org |
| 02:35.01 | slayerbob | do i need to download anything other than the kde packages to get kde working on slackware 10.1 ? |
| 02:35.08 | slayerbob | such as a new gcc or anything like that... |
| 02:35.08 | Jarn | it didnt come with KDE |
| 02:35.09 | Jarn | i wish it did |
| 02:36.42 | Jarn | AKDC |
| 02:36.44 | Jarn | have you seen that? |
| 02:36.51 | Jarn | thats the same as blueice just dif colors |
| 02:37.06 | kilrae | slayerbob: i didn't |
| 02:37.35 | kilrae | slayerbob: you shouldn't need anything else unless there's a readme with the package saying you do |
| 02:37.45 | slayerbob | ok cool |
| 02:38.03 | slayerbob | i remember canllaith saying something about updating gcc but i guess that was for something else |
| 02:38.19 | sarah03 | Hm. The one that I use personally is "Crystal" ... it's transparent. [Of course, I've got lots of pseudo-transparency going on here on my desktop, too.] |
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| 02:42.12 | cozy | hi all |
| 02:42.26 | slayerbob | hiya cozy |
| 02:42.37 | cozy | i've just upgraded to kde 3.4 and my kicker is gone ...any idea ? :) |
| 02:44.46 | kilrae | can you start it manually? |
| 02:45.03 | kilrae | run -> kicker |
| 02:45.26 | cozy | i started from a konsole, but nothing came up |
| 02:45.56 | cozy | $ pgrep kicker |
| 02:45.57 | cozy | 16923 |
| 02:46.11 | cozy | so it is running, but it doesn't show up |
| 02:46.20 | kilrae | maybe it's just transparent somewhere :P |
| 02:46.42 | cozy | kilrae: no idea, why it should be transparent?!! :) |
| 02:47.17 | kilrae | why not? |
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| 02:48.11 | cozy | kilrae: so do you have a solution? |
| 02:48.12 | Yrrebnarg | you could always do what I do when installing a new kde (eventually) |
| 02:48.17 | Yrrebnarg | rm -rf .kde\* |
| 02:48.32 | Yrrebnarg | .kde* I mean |
| 02:48.48 | cozy | Yrrebnarg: nah, that's too much work...to get the kde to look the way it looks now... |
| 02:49.06 | cozy | i'try to get the kicker rc file |
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| 02:53.03 | kilrae | it would have been cool if donald sutherland had played marik in the tv show |
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| 02:58.01 | kilrae | heh, "i want you to take my stake, i named it mr. pointy" |
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| 03:13.35 | Kiowas | how can I enable deadkeys so that I can use accented vowels and ñ easily? |
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| 03:13.39 | cozy | ok it worked that way |
| 03:15.48 | cozy | hmm..where does kopete keep the history? |
| 03:19.05 | cozy | ok found it |
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| 03:23.29 | Roey | hi all |
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| 03:31.07 | canllaith | heya Alethes |
| 03:31.16 | Roey | hey all |
| 03:31.17 | Alethes | yo :) |
| 03:31.18 | Alethes | nice icons, btw |
| 03:31.21 | Alethes | looks great |
| 03:31.36 | canllaith | ty :) |
| 03:34.43 | Alethes | is kubuntu cluttered? |
| 03:34.54 | Alethes | anybody here using it? |
| 03:35.05 | Alethes | does it try to be all things to all users? |
| 03:35.48 | Alethes | urg |
| 03:35.56 | Alethes | I made a major lasagna |
| 03:35.57 | Alethes | feeling it now heh |
| 03:36.02 | AnotherData | lol |
| 03:36.08 | slayerbob | hmmm |
| 03:36.14 | slayerbob | i should make a lasagne :P |
| 03:36.32 | Alethes | 'tis a wonderful thing |
| 03:36.40 | slayerbob | indeed |
| 03:36.52 | slayerbob | and easy to make if you are a poor chef as i am :P |
| 03:37.08 | kilrae | what is kubuntu anyway? |
| 03:37.08 | Alethes | haha |
| 03:37.18 | Alethes | ubuntu using kde instead of gnome |
| 03:37.46 | jsubl2 | i loaded ubuntu then grabbed the kubuntu stuff. I had trouble getting streaming video working |
| 03:38.01 | Alethes | which just might be a nice thing if they don't load it up with every kde app ever made and make it as gaudy as every other kde distro wants to be |
| 03:38.02 | jsubl2 | also had some crashes.... |
| 03:38.10 | kilrae | but why do i want to use this ubunto thing? |
| 03:38.25 | slayerbob | fun ? |
| 03:38.44 | slayerbob | kilrae, most linux distros are pretty much the same as each other once you get used to them |
| 03:38.59 | slayerbob | excepting some particularly nasty distros :P |
| 03:39.04 | AnotherData | some more gui'sh |
| 03:40.40 | AnotherData | mandrake,xandros etc |
| 03:40.57 | slayerbob | slackware -> very guiish :) |
| 03:41.06 | AnotherData | haha |
| 03:41.11 | Alethes | if you call ncurses a gui |
| 03:41.12 | Alethes | :) |
| 03:41.18 | canllaith | tis graphical. |
| 03:41.22 | kilrae | heh |
| 03:41.30 | canllaith | Can make all kinda pretty graphics with characters |
| 03:41.33 | AnotherData | slackware>customizeish |
| 03:41.50 | canllaith | xfce???????????/ |
| 03:41.58 | slayerbob | still downloading kde |
| 03:42.02 | canllaith | oh sod, do you want some KDE 3.4 binaries? |
| 03:42.06 | slayerbob | then i have to compile it which is gonna take a day |
| 03:42.12 | canllaith | No, stop now |
| 03:42.16 | slayerbob | oh fine now you tell me after i asked you in a message two hours ago or so |
| 03:42.18 | canllaith | I'll scp some binaries to gateway |
| 03:42.20 | slayerbob | :P |
| 03:42.21 | canllaith | well I was in the shower lol |
| 03:42.23 | slayerbob | cool :P |
| 03:42.30 | canllaith | First, go to slackware.com |
| 03:42.35 | canllaith | search in the package browser for |
| 03:42.35 | cozy | question: when i am in konqueror file mode, with multicolumn view, why the size is ordered to the least small file name lenght? |
| 03:42.50 | canllaith | slackware-current glibc, libidn, qt |
| 03:42.58 | canllaith | Install those, and I'll get the KDE binaries uploaded. |
| 03:43.04 | canllaith | I might strip them first. |
| 03:43.16 | cozy | i have quite a funny view whre a file a.txt is making me not seeing more that 5 chars of file names.... |
| 03:43.20 | AnotherData | slack packs on lp.net work fine |
| 03:43.25 | slayerbob | search in slack-current ? |
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| 03:43.43 | canllaith | slayerbob: yes |
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| 03:43.47 | canllaith | AnotherData: they're not cvs head though |
| 03:43.54 | AnotherData | oh cvs |
| 03:44.20 | slayerbob | ok there are a few things that come up under glibc... |
| 03:44.28 | slayerbob | ah found it :) |
| 03:44.32 | canllaith | Just grab glibc |
| 03:45.51 | dad | Kubuntu KDE 3.4 and Xorg look good (Kubuntu isn't done yet though) |
| 03:47.18 | kilrae | buffy killed angel |
| 03:47.22 | jsubl2 | dad does playing wmv files over the net work |
| 03:47.33 | canllaith | slayerbob: this is kdelibs kdebase kdegraphics kdenetwork amarok konversation ummmmm what else |
| 03:47.36 | canllaith | kdepim, so you have your kmail |
| 03:47.41 | canllaith | you'll have to also grab this and untar it in / |
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| 03:47.53 | slayerbob | k |
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| 03:48.00 | slayerbob | so it has the full path structure in it ? |
| 03:48.08 | canllaith | Yes |
| 03:48.20 | slayerbob | and i want to install those three packages first ? |
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| 03:48.34 | canllaith | slayerbob: yes, and then in my home dir on gateway |
| 03:48.38 | canllaith | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:48.43 | canllaith | There is a 'foo.tar.gz' |
| 03:48.50 | slayerbob | ok cool |
| 03:48.52 | canllaith | that has libmusicbrainz + tunepimp binaries in it |
| 03:48.57 | canllaith | grab that and tar xzfC foo.tar.gz / |
| 03:49.01 | slayerbob | do i need to do removepkg on the package names first ? |
| 03:49.11 | canllaith | I do. |
| 03:49.16 | slayerbob | for glibc etc i mean |
| 03:49.26 | dad | jsubl2: checking |
| 03:49.42 | slayerbob | hmmm |
| 03:49.47 | slayerbob | libidn was the same version |
| 03:49.55 | canllaith | This will take approx 18 minutes to copy to /home/dessa/kde-cvs-slayerbob.tar.gz |
| 03:50.01 | canllaith | Yeah, it might be. |
| 03:50.06 | canllaith | You prolly don't *need* to update your glibc either, come to think of it |
| 03:50.06 | slayerbob | ok cool :) |
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| 03:50.12 | canllaith | You definitely , if you only installed from cd 1 |
| 03:50.15 | canllaith | need to install qt. |
| 03:50.16 | slayerbob | lol |
| 03:50.22 | jsubl2 | dad k |
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| 03:50.42 | slayerbob | k |
| 03:50.50 | kilrae | ok, done season 2 |
| 03:51.36 | canllaith | slayerbob: ok in 15 minutes or so you should have kde-cvs-slayerbob.tar.gz in /home/dessa/ on gateway |
| 03:51.37 | kilrae | slack seems to be getting popular |
| 03:51.42 | canllaith | The exact filesize in bytes is...... |
| 03:51.49 | canllaith | slack was always popular |
| 03:52.01 | cozy | eh, any idea about this view style/view problem? |
| 03:52.09 | slayerbob | ok cool |
| 03:52.22 | canllaith | slayerbob: filesize: -rw-r--r-- 1 dessa users 64565938 2005-03-22 15:48 kde-cvs-slayerbob.tar.gz |
| 03:52.27 | canllaith | So once it's that big you can use it =p |
| 03:52.38 | slayerbob | :P |
| 03:52.48 | canllaith | I'm gonna go to the laundrette and wash some clothes now, I'm down to like teeny tennis shorts and my california top and that is *it* :| |
| 03:52.52 | slayerbob | how do i tell my current v of glibc ? |
| 03:53.03 | slayerbob | k |
| 03:53.03 | canllaith | ls /var/log/packages | grep glibc |
| 03:53.09 | canllaith | bbs :) |
| 03:53.28 | slayerbob | ok glibc version is the same |
| 03:53.33 | slayerbob | so it is only qt :) |
| 03:53.51 | canllaith | ok :) for the moment, use KDM |
| 03:54.10 | canllaith | and run it manually rather than init 4 ( /opt/kde-unstable/kdm ) |
| 03:54.28 | canllaith | mmm that should work ok, I'll send you a script to set your KDEDIR/QTDIR etc later :P Cya! |
| 03:55.22 | dad | jsubl2: No wmv or real (yet, like my mepis does) :) |
| 03:56.03 | dad | Does any one know why (k)ubuntu sources are better than Debian? |
| 03:56.14 | dad | I don't know. |
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| 03:57.35 | dad | Anyone else try KDE 3.4? What do you think? |
| 03:57.50 | ysm | don't work well ;( |
| 03:58.13 | meng | kubuntu's fonts aren't anti-alised |
| 03:58.40 | slayerbob | ysm, it works fine here |
| 03:58.45 | slayerbob | or at least did until my hdd failed :P |
| 03:59.12 | meng | apt-get -install kubuntu-desktop |
| 03:59.25 | AnotherData | kaboodle,noatun use to be able to play .mpeg files in 3.3.2 now they dont play in 3.4 |
| 03:59.36 | AnotherData | works fine in gxine |
| 03:59.41 | ysm | mysteriously, my kpdf stop working by itself after two or three use, and nobody have the same problems, so I say that even the bug aren't stable ;p |
| 03:59.46 | meng | w32codecs? |
| 04:00.22 | meng | me thinks pure kubuntu is better than upgrading from ubuntu |
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| 04:02.30 | AnotherData | /usr/lib/win32 should be the dir for the codecs right? |
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| 04:05.55 | ysm | I've got codecs in /usr/local/lib/codecs/ |
| 04:07.00 | jsubl2 | meng.. that is what i was wondering if there was a diff between ubuntu upgraded to kubuntu or straight kubuntu |
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| 04:08.25 | jsubl2 | anybody using 64bit kubuntu |
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| 04:11.50 | meng | broken stuff and fonts |
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| 04:12.35 | meng | all of my KDE stuff, the fonts are huge in Gnome |
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| 04:13.13 | ysm | everything is huge in kde... |
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| 04:13.38 | ysm | huge font, huge menu list, huge K menu, huge bugs list... |
| 04:13.41 | meng | but the all the apps icons in KDE is soo tiny |
| 04:13.50 | Dhraakellian | Texas Desktop Environment? |
| 04:14.09 | meng | sry, apps fonts |
| 04:14.47 | meng | tried it |
| 04:15.14 | meng | me, i am under a 800x600 res |
| 04:15.19 | Dhraakellian | ouch |
| 04:15.28 | meng | small monitor |
| 04:15.55 | Dhraakellian | even 1024x768 seems small to me now |
| 04:16.01 | jsubl2 | so kubuntu is not a keeper yet?? |
| 04:16.03 | meng | but the kde apps fonts are really huge in Gnome |
| 04:16.22 | AnotherData | i made the dir /usr/local/lib/codecs yet kaboodle,noatun still wont play the .mpeg |
| 04:16.30 | meng | looks like i have to keep using gnome till kubuntu gets fixed |
| 04:16.42 | Dhraakellian | heh |
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| 04:17.08 | meng | gnome and ubuntu fits well with each othe |
| 04:17.21 | meng | other, like Romeo n Juliet |
| 04:17.30 | Dhraakellian | and then they die in the end? |
| 04:17.49 | jsubl2 | meng: answers my question thank you |
| 04:17.54 | meng | don't know abt it, have to wait till kubuntu goes gold |
| 04:18.11 | jsubl2 | hopefully then it will work correctly |
| 04:18.34 | meng | i still liked klipper, so i have it |
| 04:18.38 | meng | n |
| 04:18.42 | Dhraakellian | I booted up to the liveCD a while back |
| 04:18.53 | meng | mepis's networking fails for me |
| 04:19.02 | meng | so i resorted to ubuntu |
| 04:19.24 | jsubl2 | well i already compiled kde 3.4 under gentoo... it works better than kubuntu's version i think |
| 04:19.24 | Dhraakellian | and, although I haven't used it as extensively as knoppix, I think it's probably what I'll use the next time I'm in the need of a liveCD |
| 04:19.28 | meng | i am using konversation under gnome actually |
| 04:19.31 | Dhraakellian | gentoo is nice if you have the patience and/or horsepower for it |
| 04:19.54 | meng | i have enough from college life, thank you |
| 04:19.59 | jsubl2 | i have the horsepower... plus big compiles i start b4 bed time |
| 04:20.09 | jsubl2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:20.14 | Dhraakellian | heh |
| 04:20.25 | jsubl2 | :) |
| 04:20.32 | meng | lucky, i only have a athlon xp |
| 04:21.06 | Dhraakellian | 2.4GHz p4, 768MB RAM |
| 04:21.13 | AnotherData | 14(04 Operating System 14) 07Linux Slackware 10.1.000 Kernel: 072.4.2900, 07GNU/Linux14 | 00Xorg:07 6.8.2 14| 00Desktop:07 KDE: 3.4.0 14| 00IRC CLient:07 X-Chat v.2.4.2 |
| 04:21.17 | meng | *on Kubuntu/Ubuntu 2.6.9-10 |
| 04:21.27 | Dhraakellian | xchat 2.4.2 is out? |
| 04:21.31 | AnotherData | been out |
| 04:21.31 | meng | hoary preview 5.04 |
| 04:21.37 | AnotherData | for like a week |
| 04:21.39 | Dhraakellian | hmm |
| 04:21.47 | cartel_ | meng: how is kubuntu? nice? |
| 04:21.55 | Dhraakellian | well, I ought to give konversation-cvs another try before I upgrade xchat |
| 04:22.11 | meng | messy upgrade from apt |
| 04:22.30 | meng | not as polished as gnome in ubuntu |
| 04:22.35 | cartel_ | meng: you upgraded from woody to kubuntu???? |
| 04:22.49 | meng | no, hoary ubuntu to kubuntu |
| 04:22.56 | cartel_ | ah |
| 04:23.01 | Dhraakellian | I'd probably be more likely to fiddle with them if we could actually boot from CD in the labs on campus |
| 04:23.06 | cartel_ | well kubuntu hasnt been going very long |
| 04:23.20 | meng | it's a step sister to ubuntu |
| 04:23.42 | meng | i can try it back in MMU |
| 04:23.48 | Dhraakellian | they're not connected to the network (security concerns... Bah!) |
| 04:23.59 | cartel_ | ocp biohuman cyborg technology |
| 04:24.00 | meng | down with filtered web access |
| 04:24.05 | cartel_ | state of the art destructive capability |
| 04:24.19 | cartel_ | commanded by a unique combination of software and organic systems |
| 04:24.31 | meng | i have the kubuntu live cd, but no time to test it out |
| 04:24.35 | cartel_ | :) |
| 04:24.56 | meng | damm, the download is oh so slow from malaysia |
| 04:25.01 | cartel_ | haha |
| 04:25.03 | AnotherData | heh |
| 04:25.30 | meng | someone should start having an asian mirror for kubuntu |
| 04:25.54 | meng | mymirror.asiaosc.org |
| 04:26.54 | Dhraakellian | OCP = Office & Computer Programs |
| 04:26.55 | meng | too bad i can't pass my kubuntu screenshot |
| 04:26.57 | Dhraakellian | or something like that |
| 04:27.19 | Dhraakellian | it's the department the comp sci stuff is in |
| 04:27.43 | AnotherData | http://home.comcast.net/~anotherdata/snapshot1.png |
| 04:27.52 | Dhraakellian | cartel_, is there any particular reason why that makes me think of cylons? |
| 04:29.07 | meng | http://img71.exs.cx/img71/1244/snapshotkubuntuffwallpaper8pe.jpg |
| 04:29.15 | Cyanophytes | I for some reason have an interface sl0 when typing ifconfig. Is this supposed to be there |
| 04:29.28 | meng | ipv6 interface |
| 04:30.02 | meng | see the un anti-aliased fonts |
| 04:30.10 | Cyanophytes | any way to change or remove this |
| 04:30.36 | meng | no idea, i am relatively new to this |
| 04:31.35 | meng | <AnotherData>: i like the dock |
| 04:31.45 | jsubl2 | http://209.144.23.220/snapshot2.png |
| 04:31.51 | meng | it's hard to mac osx gnome |
| 04:32.24 | AnotherData | meng:its called ksmoothdock |
| 04:32.48 | meng | damm, it'll look odd in gnome |
| 04:33.47 | meng | just like the klipper icon on my systray |
| 04:34.23 | meng | i was hoping for deb packs for these theming stuff |
| 04:34.46 | AnotherData | heh |
| 04:35.21 | meng | i was pretty much kde only till ubuntu |
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| 04:36.03 | meng | but since mepis's networking had issues, so i went ubuntu |
| 04:36.10 | AnotherData | i tried ubuntu once but i didint like its packages manager |
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| 04:36.20 | AnotherData | package* |
| 04:36.25 | meng | synaptic? |
| 04:36.28 | AnotherData | removed xchat and it broke my system |
| 04:36.31 | AnotherData | yeah |
| 04:36.44 | AnotherData | :| |
| 04:36.45 | meng | get the right apt source |
| 04:37.18 | meng | <AnotherData>: which release have u used? |
| 04:37.37 | AnotherData | hmm I dont even know i just downloaded an .iso and burned it,lol |
| 04:37.47 | AnotherData | it was like 2 months ago |
| 04:38.10 | meng | most likely warty |
| 04:38.10 | AnotherData | yes |
| 04:38.13 | meng | that's so outdated |
| 04:38.13 | AnotherData | warty |
| 04:38.20 | AnotherData | thats what it was |
| 04:38.40 | meng | u'll have problems upgrading warty to hoary |
| 04:39.00 | Dhraakellian | ah, found it |
| 04:39.04 | AnotherData | I have no probs with slackware tho so ill prob just stay with it |
| 04:39.07 | Dhraakellian | settings > configure extensions |
| 04:39.14 | AnotherData | just the lack of packages lately |
| 04:39.14 | meng | coz warty uses xfree86, and hoary uses xorg |
| 04:39.40 | meng | i am still waiting for gaim 1.2.0 for debian |
| 04:39.45 | AnotherData | hehe |
| 04:39.50 | AnotherData | compile it from source |
| 04:40.03 | AnotherData | what i did |
| 04:40.04 | meng | even my windows box is already updated |
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| 04:40.19 | Dhraakellian | unmerge xf86, emerge xorg, run etc-update to make the necessary changes to the XF86Config |
| 04:40.21 | cozy | re |
| 04:40.30 | Dhraakellian | eventually rename XF86Config to xorg.conf |
| 04:40.32 | meng | i can't even ./configure my tar file |
| 04:40.43 | AnotherData | lol |
| 04:40.55 | Dhraakellian | now, xorg 6.7 to xorg 6.8 is fraught with trouble for me |
| 04:41.14 | Dhraakellian | 6.8 is intollerably slow on my machine for some reason |
| 04:41.16 | cozy | a question to KDM, which kdmrm i need to edit? the one in /etc/kde/kdm ( /etc/X11/xmd/kdmrc ) ? |
| 04:41.20 | AnotherData | swaret upgraded xorg 6.8.1 to .2 easy for me |
| 04:41.26 | cozy | ...in order to make a theme work? |
| 04:41.43 | Dhraakellian | onboard graphics might or might not be a factor |
| 04:41.56 | Dhraakellian | maybe I should just try starting again with a new xorg.conf |
| 04:42.13 | meng | i have issues with ati drivers |
| 04:42.20 | AnotherData | tho ive yet get the nvidia drivers for my tnt2 card to work |
| 04:42.29 | AnotherData | to get 3d acceleration |
| 04:42.33 | meng | i have no idea how to install it |
| 04:42.36 | meng | yup |
| 04:43.00 | meng | it seems harder for ATI cards to work |
| 04:43.18 | AnotherData | yeah ati has crap support for linux |
| 04:43.41 | meng | no tuxracer or UT2004 for me =( |
| 04:43.47 | AnotherData | same here :/ |
| 04:44.05 | AnotherData | or any opengl screensavers |
| 04:44.06 | AnotherData | lol |
| 04:44.21 | meng | what's ur time there? |
| 04:44.35 | AnotherData | 9:45pm |
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| 04:45.04 | meng | guess ur in the us east coast |
| 04:45.13 | AnotherData | mountain |
| 04:45.23 | AnotherData | MST |
| 04:45.30 | meng | rocky mountains |
| 04:45.34 | AnotherData | yep |
| 04:45.39 | AnotherData | denver |
| 04:46.02 | meng | me, GMT+8, Melaka, Malaysia |
| 04:46.11 | AnotherData | cool |
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| 04:46.24 | meng | now's it's 5 mins to 1pm |
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| 04:47.23 | meng | nothing much here, except this is where malaysian history begins |
| 04:47.33 | Dhraakellian | Mon Mar 21 23:48:31 EST 2005 |
| 04:48.05 | meng | <AnotherData>:nueva york? |
| 04:48.26 | meng | sry, i was mentioning <Dhraakellian> |
| 04:49.06 | meng | <Dhraakellian>: ur in NY? |
| 04:49.43 | Dhraakellian | yes, I am in New York state |
| 04:49.45 | AnotherData | oh |
| 04:49.46 | AnotherData | ok |
| 04:49.51 | AnotherData | bbiaf |
| 04:50.30 | meng | wow, that's cool |
| 04:51.16 | dwango | Dhraakellian, fellow rochesterian |
| 04:51.19 | meng | here, the OSS revolution is still at it's infancy |
| 04:51.29 | Dhraakellian | heh |
| 04:51.58 | meng | i am a member of a small Linux SIG in campus |
| 04:52.09 | meng | like less than 20 |
| 04:52.14 | Dhraakellian | system idiots group? |
| 04:52.25 | Dhraakellian | ...or something |
| 04:52.28 | meng | special interest group |
| 04:52.32 | Dhraakellian | heh |
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| 04:52.47 | meng | http://linux.meetup.com/303/ |
| 04:53.09 | dwango | you a student Dhraakellian? |
| 04:54.33 | Dhraakellian | MCC |
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| 04:55.49 | meng | izzit just me or alot of uni's names start with M |
| 04:56.13 | dwango | just you =) |
| 04:56.19 | Dhraakellian | Monroe Community College in this case |
| 04:56.28 | chrisag | Hello, I'm using mandrake 10.2 RC 1 and compiled KDe 3.4 several times using konstruct only to have KDE not even have one program in the menu, and could not even open konquerer without explicitly telling it so. Any help would be appreciated. |
| 04:56.41 | meng | MIne |
| 04:56.45 | chrisag | '(oh and i did add to my .bashrc file the correct settinsgs) |
| 04:57.01 | meng | is MMU (Multimedia University) |
| 04:57.24 | meng | mandrake's packaging stinks |
| 04:57.30 | chrisag | I agree. |
| 04:57.40 | meng | no free packages |
| 04:57.44 | dwango | not one program? |
| 04:57.59 | chrisag | I haven't had trouble getting free packages meng. |
| 04:58.02 | dwango | 'ls /etc/xdg/menus' |
| 04:58.04 | chrisag | Dwango. yup. |
| 04:58.06 | meng | seems the only package source is from mandrake club |
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| 04:58.30 | chrisag | ok Dwango |
| 04:58.37 | chrisag | I see kde settings and such. |
| 04:58.42 | meng | where on earth u get ur free mandrake packs? |
| 04:58.47 | chrisag | but I set my KDEHOME=~/kde3.4 |
| 04:58.52 | chrisag | rpm.pbone.net |
| 04:58.56 | chrisag | or rpmfind.net |
| 04:58.59 | chrisag | some are even on update sites. |
| 04:59.10 | chavo | chrisag, rename your ~/.menu |
| 04:59.19 | chrisag | to? |
| 04:59.35 | chavo | anything, just to see if that fixes it |
| 04:59.38 | chrisag | actually nix that. |
| 04:59.46 | chavo | I think that's how I fixed it. |
| 04:59.47 | chrisag | I don't even have a .menu in my user folder. |
| 04:59.53 | Dhraakellian | mv ~/.menu ~/.menu.bak |
| 04:59.56 | Dhraakellian | heh |
| 05:00.00 | chrisag | lol |
| 05:00.13 | chavo | what about .config/menus |
| 05:00.16 | chrisag | I have a .menu-updates. |
| 05:00.17 | chrisag | let me check |
| 05:00.28 | chrisag | yup |
| 05:00.30 | chrisag | i do have those |
| 05:00.44 | chrisag | but even if i change my kdehome to another folder it still uses that? |
| 05:00.44 | chavo | well try mv'ing that |
| 05:00.50 | chavo | yes |
| 05:00.55 | chrisag | ahh |
| 05:01.02 | chrisag | moving it to the main user folder? |
| 05:01.29 | chrisag | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:01.31 | chrisag | would be main |
| 05:01.32 | chavo | well you can probably safely delete, but just move it somewhere you won't forget |
| 05:01.34 | chrisag | so I'd put it there |
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| 05:01.42 | chrisag | or rename them to .bak ;) |
| 05:01.49 | Dhraakellian | yeah |
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| 05:01.51 | chrisag | so I need to make 'new' ones.. |
| 05:01.54 | chavo | then try -> dcop kicker kicker restart |
| 05:01.55 | chrisag | for kde to read? |
| 05:01.59 | Dhraakellian | since mv is also the command for renaming |
| 05:02.06 | chavo | no it will use the dafault |
| 05:02.09 | chrisag | oh ok |
| 05:02.11 | chrisag | let me try that |
| 05:02.13 | chrisag | real quick |
| 05:02.36 | chavo | Dhraakellian, it puts up an empty window |
| 05:02.37 | chrisag | and secondly how do I get rid of the annoying red or green highlights on every word in something |
| 05:02.52 | chavo | I had the same problem on mdk after I upgraded gnome to 2.10 |
| 05:03.01 | Dhraakellian | chrisag, what program? |
| 05:03.10 | meng | nothing like apt.... |
| 05:03.30 | Dhraakellian | grammar checking in word processors is what I think when I see that |
| 05:03.50 | chavo | well I just installed kubuntu and I'm in that now, think I'm going to ditch mandrake |
| 05:04.10 | chrisag | Dhraa: All of KDE |
| 05:04.10 | chrisag | haha |
| 05:04.11 | AnotherData | argh..kaboodle still wont play .mpeg files :/ |
| 05:04.25 | Dhraakellian | not what I was thinking of, then |
| 05:04.49 | dwango | did your menu work chrisag? |
| 05:04.54 | chrisag | I think it has to do with mandrake.. i probably should switch to gentoo |
| 05:04.57 | meng | <AnotherData>: tried getting w32codecs? |
| 05:05.03 | chrisag | oh I haven't had a chance to edit the .bashrc yet |
| 05:05.04 | chrisag | so I can |
| 05:05.06 | AnotherData | meng:I have all of them |
| 05:05.12 | chrisag | i'm afaid of mandrake kicking me out |
| 05:05.16 | chrisag | and having to restart everything right now |
| 05:05.21 | chrisag | which it will most likly. |
| 05:05.24 | meng | totem works well for me |
| 05:05.24 | chrisag | likely |
| 05:05.26 | Dhraakellian | what's that thing that oggb4mp3(?) talks about? Mandrake Expatriate Syndrome? |
| 05:05.43 | AnotherData | totem never works for me |
| 05:06.17 | chrisag | i can't even get kaffiene and mplayer to play ever wmv. |
| 05:06.36 | chavo | chrisag, you need w32 codecs |
| 05:06.37 | meng | protected wmv? |
| 05:06.39 | AnotherData | ah wtf totem plays it now |
| 05:06.41 | AnotherData | lol |
| 05:06.51 | chrisag | i thought those were automatically installed >:-o |
| 05:07.24 | meng | not in ubuntu's case |
| 05:07.38 | chrisag | k i'm going to try this |
| 05:07.41 | chrisag | wish me luck. |
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| 05:09.21 | affan | hi all, I just installed KDE 3.4... somehow after changing my font settings in Control Panel, the fonts for Firefox and Gaim/XChat also changed.. they were much sharper before... I think it has to do with anti-aliasing... do you what caused this? thanks |
| 05:10.05 | dwango | are you using the QT GTK engine? |
| 05:10.32 | affan | how do I find that out? i dont know |
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| 05:11.22 | chrisag | Nope still doing it. |
| 05:11.36 | ubuntu | Help.... |
| 05:11.39 | dwango | chrisag, `mv /etc/xdg/menus /etc/xdg/menus.bak` |
| 05:11.46 | chrisag | ok now I'll do that one. |
| 05:11.49 | Dhraakellian | gtk-qt-engine is nice |
| 05:12.01 | ubuntu | I just fouled up my root password when I was installing Warty and now I can't get into root. |
| 05:12.02 | dwango | and then `kbuildsycoca` |
| 05:12.13 | ubuntu | Anything short of another install? |
| 05:12.17 | chrisag | k dawngo |
| 05:12.18 | dwango | chrisag, shouldn't have to restart kde |
| 05:12.24 | chrisag | well |
| 05:12.32 | Dhraakellian | and if there is, please correct me! |
| 05:12.34 | chrisag | I keep going back and forth between kde3.4 and 3.32 |
| 05:12.40 | dwango | oh i see |
| 05:12.57 | chrisag | i mean literally I have to do everything through command line in kde3.4 to find it. |
| 05:14.06 | meng | how on earth u have 2 kde's? |
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| 05:14.26 | chrisag | you compile one using konstruct in your user folder ;) |
| 05:14.30 | dwango | different directories. |
| 05:14.35 | meng | ah |
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| 05:14.57 | dwango | /usr/kde/3.3, /usr/kde/3.4 in gentoo |
| 05:15.19 | chrisag | ok I moved the folder should I use that commadn after i'm in kde3.4 |
| 05:15.20 | chrisag | or now |
| 05:15.30 | dwango | when you're in 3.4 |
| 05:15.33 | dwango | well |
| 05:15.37 | dwango | you won't have to use it |
| 05:15.43 | chrisag | well then |
| 05:15.44 | chrisag | haha |
| 05:15.48 | dwango | it will build automatically when you start kde |
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| 05:15.53 | chrisag | gotcha |
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| 05:16.53 | meng | i only have kde, gnome, xfce and aftestep |
| 05:17.05 | dwango | i only have kde |
| 05:17.17 | chrisag | k one more time. |
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| 05:18.40 | phxguy | anyone here familiar with kdebluetooth??? |
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| 05:19.59 | meng | anyone here uses Ati cards? |
| 05:20.07 | dwango | yes |
| 05:20.27 | meng | how to install drivers for xorg? |
| 05:20.44 | dwango | emerge ati-drivers =0 |
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| 05:20.45 | dwango | =) |
| 05:20.53 | meng | i tried the ubuntu forums and wiki and it failed |
| 05:21.08 | meng | and i can't emerge coz' i am using ubuntu |
| 05:21.17 | chrisag | alrighty i'm sitting in kde 3.4.... it doesn't have ANY file associations and it doesn't even have a way to configure any of it! |
| 05:21.42 | chrisag | oh and those annoying red highlights. |
| 05:21.47 | dwango | does it have menus? |
| 05:21.51 | chrisag | nope. |
| 05:21.55 | chrisag | well yes |
| 05:21.55 | dwango | heh |
| 05:21.56 | chrisag | and no. |
| 05:22.04 | meng | gtg anyawyz |
| 05:22.08 | chrisag | they're just.... kind of don't do anything |
| 05:22.12 | meng | got something to catch |
| 05:22.22 | phxguy | anyone here familiar with kdebluetooth??? |
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| 05:22.34 | canllaith | chrisag: annoying red highlights? |
| 05:22.44 | chrisag | Yes. |
| 05:22.51 | chrisag | the first letter of every word. |
| 05:22.52 | canllaith | Describe them? :) |
| 05:22.55 | canllaith | ah ok |
| 05:22.55 | chrisag | is highlighted in red. |
| 05:22.59 | chrisag | As the background. |
| 05:23.03 | canllaith | Check your $QTDIR |
| 05:23.12 | chrisag | ~/kde3.4 |
| 05:23.17 | canllaith | Did you use Konstruct ? |
| 05:23.22 | chrisag | yes |
| 05:23.25 | chrisag | was that a bad idea? |
| 05:23.34 | canllaith | ok, and your konstruct built KDE and your konstruct qt are together? |
| 05:23.38 | canllaith | QTDIR and KDEDIR both agree on that? |
| 05:23.51 | canllaith | brucehoult: what's for dinner dude =p |
| 05:23.59 | chrisag | [chrisag@localhost ~]$ echo $KDEDIR |
| 05:24.00 | chrisag | [chrisag@localhost ~]$ echo $QTDIR |
| 05:24.01 | chrisag | [chrisag@localhost ~]$ |
| 05:24.07 | chrisag | arg |
| 05:24.17 | chrisag | what it showed is that they are both /home/chrisag/kde3.4 |
| 05:24.29 | chrisag | and... at least the cut and paste worked. |
| 05:24.29 | brucehoult | canllaith: sisn't you mention cooking that remaining chicken? |
| 05:24.32 | canllaith | Your QTDIR .... um |
| 05:24.40 | canllaith | Shouldn't be kde3.4, surely |
| 05:24.54 | chrisag | well that's what the instructions said! |
| 05:24.56 | canllaith | What kinda directory structure is there? Are the qt libs in kde3.4/lib too ? |
| 05:24.56 | chrisag | :( |
| 05:25.02 | chrisag | yes |
| 05:25.04 | chrisag | they should be |
| 05:25.05 | canllaith | ok |
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| 05:25.08 | canllaith | well um check :) |
| 05:25.27 | canllaith | Basically you are having problems with your system built QT and your konstruct built QT conflicting |
| 05:25.31 | chrisag | I see libqt*... |
| 05:25.38 | canllaith | I wonder, if QTDIR was set during build and it built against your system qt? |
| 05:25.45 | canllaith | Try setting your QTDIR to system qt and see how that goes |
| 05:25.46 | chrisag | well |
| 05:25.51 | chrisag | i didn't set anything until AFTER |
| 05:25.53 | canllaith | Basically one has -nostl and one doesn't, and that's the problem. |
| 05:26.06 | canllaith | So if we figure out which one your konstruct likes...... |
| 05:26.11 | canllaith | brucehoult: mmm I don't feel like chicken :( |
| 05:26.16 | chrisag | alright |
| 05:26.23 | chrisag | that means i have to use... /usr/lib |
| 05:26.23 | chrisag | I think |
| 05:26.28 | brucehoult | that's rather unusual! |
| 05:26.30 | phxguy | anyone here familiar with kdebluetooth??? I couuld use some help...... |
| 05:26.32 | phxguy | anyone here familiar with kdebluetooth??? I couuld use some help...... |
| 05:26.43 | canllaith | brucehoult: I know :( I still feel pretty sick |
| 05:27.14 | canllaith | phxguy: please don't spam the channel like that - if we knew, we'd answer you. |
| 05:27.58 | chrisag | ok so canllaith you want me to make QTDIR to the system default correct? |
| 05:28.08 | phxguy | sorry, but simply not answering isnt very helpful. a simple no would suffice |
| 05:28.21 | canllaith | phxguy: so 130 people should all say 'no, phxguy we don't know' ? |
| 05:28.31 | canllaith | That's very silly |
| 05:28.45 | canllaith | If we knew, we'd answer. Try again later. |
| 05:28.51 | chrisag | is there a command i should run now to restart kde... wow I feel like such a novice. |
| 05:28.52 | phxguy | not saying that but its nice to be acknowledged. |
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| 05:29.24 | canllaith | chrisag: mm are you using kdm or startx ..... |
| 05:29.24 | AnotherData | should try google |
| 05:29.25 | canllaith | hang on |
| 05:29.32 | canllaith | when did you set QTDIR / KDEDIR, and how? |
| 05:29.44 | chrisag | and put them in my .bashrc |
| 05:29.49 | chrisag | and using export QTDIR= |
| 05:29.53 | chrisag | and same for KDEDIR |
| 05:30.01 | canllaith | so you set them in your .bashrc |
| 05:30.05 | chrisag | AFTER I installed kde3.4 with konstruct. |
| 05:30.07 | chrisag | yes. |
| 05:30.13 | canllaith | did you type export QTDIR=foo into your terminal at any stage, or you only put them in your .bashrc ? |
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| 05:30.23 | chrisag | only in the .bashrc. |
| 05:30.25 | canllaith | k :) |
| 05:30.33 | canllaith | So do you use kdm, or startx to start your KDE |
| 05:30.37 | chrisag | I mean I'm a novice but i'm not stupid |
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| 05:30.39 | chrisag | kdm i believe |
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| 05:30.44 | chrisag | (mandrake default) |
| 05:30.51 | canllaith | Well, that's nice I'm not saying you're stupid. |
| 05:30.56 | canllaith | but I can't see your computer, so I have to ask. |
| 05:31.06 | delltony_ | question how in the heck do you change your ip in kde i know i can go to /etc/network/interfaces in the shell and do it but is there not a gui for it in kde? |
| 05:31.10 | canllaith | Log out, then log back in I'm afraid. |
| 05:31.12 | chrisag | Oh sorry I wasn't being mean, just sarcastic about myself. |
| 05:31.22 | chrisag | alrighty here we go |
| 05:31.25 | canllaith | No, there isn't a gui for it in KDE delltony_ |
| 05:31.36 | delltony_ | ok thanks |
| 05:31.54 | delltony_ | tell me this then whats the purpose of network settings in control panel then? |
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| 05:32.18 | canllaith | I don't see any Network Settings in the control center, sorry |
| 05:32.25 | chrisag | not a change... |
| 05:33.12 | delltony_ | hmm well i have knetwork-conf installed don't know if that makes a difference |
| 05:33.12 | kendrick | where's my 3.4!?!? |
| 05:33.13 | kendrick | ;) |
| 05:33.32 | canllaith | delltony_: uh, I've never heard of it |
| 05:34.37 | HItriko-sa | hey guys i'm having trouble installing fire fox, forsome reason the ./firefox-installer won't work when i click on it... |
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| 05:34.51 | canllaith | Firefox is not a KDE app, sorry. Maybe ask in #firefox |
| 05:34.53 | chrisag | Nope definately no change. |
| 05:34.54 | kendrick | does it have executable permissions? |
| 05:35.07 | kendrick | canllaith: but he/she might be clicking from Konq or on the desktop |
| 05:35.07 | HItriko-sa | they are not helping |
| 05:35.15 | kendrick | so in that sense, this IS a KDE problem :) |
| 05:35.18 | canllaith | That doesn't make firefox a KDE app :) |
| 05:35.36 | chrisag | they should make it with kde libs |
| 05:35.37 | HItriko-sa | but that don't mean you can't help |
| 05:35.37 | chrisag | er |
| 05:35.38 | chrisag | QT |
| 05:35.41 | kendrick | heheh |
| 05:35.42 | chrisag | it would look better. |
| 05:35.45 | canllaith | chrisag: ok do you have an ~/.xsession-errors or something like that ? |
| 05:35.50 | delltony_ | yep canllaith that did the trick |
| 05:35.51 | kendrick | even though i don't use firefox ;) |
| 05:35.53 | chrisag | yes i'm sure let me open it |
| 05:36.00 | HItriko-sa | can i PM you Kendrick? |
| 05:36.01 | delltony_ | its the knetwork-conf adds an interface to it |
| 05:36.01 | kendrick | even at work on XP, I use regular Mozilla |
| 05:36.11 | delltony_ | you gotta pic a distro that acts like the one your using |
| 05:36.12 | kendrick | HItriko-sa: sure, i suppose :) |
| 05:36.14 | canllaith | chrisag: cool it would be great if you could post that online for me somewhere |
| 05:36.34 | chrisag | will do. |
| 05:36.46 | chrisag | if I can get kbear going |
| 05:36.46 | chrisag | ;) |
| 05:37.03 | canllaith | Can try the pastebin too |
| 05:40.00 | chrisag | canllaith : http://people.ucsc.edu/~chrisag/xsession-errors |
| 05:40.02 | chrisag | there you go. |
| 05:40.36 | chrisag | sorry i took so long. |
| 05:40.43 | canllaith | Not a problem |
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| 05:41.17 | chrisag | obviously there are a lot of errors... |
| 05:41.19 | chrisag | unfortunately. |
| 05:41.51 | canllaith | Well not as such errors |
| 05:42.48 | chrisag | well what I'm not understanding is... i don't even have a settings configuration for konqueror come up when I select it from the menu. |
| 05:43.40 | canllaith | interesting, I don't see anything to suggest the typical qt mixmatch mandrake + konstruct users get in here.... |
| 05:44.01 | canllaith | do you have a ~/.qt/qt_plugins_3.3rc ? |
| 05:44.08 | chrisag | then maybe i'm just stupid and I'm missing something that konstruct didn't throw an error on... |
| 05:44.14 | chrisag | let's find out |
| 05:44.25 | canllaith | You're not the only mandrake user to have *exactly* this problem, and some slackware users too. |
| 05:44.42 | canllaith | Basically it's cause the system qt is built using full-config no-stl and the konstruct one is not built with no-stl. |
| 05:44.47 | AnotherData | what prob? |
| 05:44.54 | chrisag | oh... |
| 05:44.58 | canllaith | People using packages from Klax have the same issue too |
| 05:45.03 | AnotherData | oh |
| 05:45.06 | canllaith | (Klax + Konstruct are the same guy) |
| 05:45.08 | chrisag | yes canllaith |
| 05:45.13 | chrisag | I do have that file. |
| 05:45.22 | chrisag | as well as several others. |
| 05:45.22 | canllaith | kewl, it should say something kinda like this |
| 05:45.29 | canllaith | kde-unstable/lib/kde3/plugins/designer/kdepimwidgets.so=30303^e3^ei686 Linux g++-3.* full-config no- |
| 05:45.29 | canllaith | stl^e2005-03-17T12:44:05^e |
| 05:45.38 | canllaith | It will say lots of things but you should have lotsa lines like that |
| 05:45.47 | chrisag | yeah |
| 05:45.54 | canllaith | It's the Linux q++-3.* full-config no-stl bit I'm interested in. |
| 05:45.57 | canllaith | Does yours mention stl ? |
| 05:46.13 | chrisag | nope |
| 05:46.46 | chrisag | well i'm not sure how konstruct used it then |
| 05:46.54 | chrisag | because it's using a theme that I had in 3.3.2 |
| 05:47.01 | chrisag | in one of the first lines.. |
| 05:47.15 | chrisag | as well as serveral others. |
| 05:47.22 | canllaith | and you don't have these themes in konstruct? |
| 05:47.49 | chrisag | I don't have anything in the main menu.. |
| 05:47.49 | chrisag | so I can't even check! |
| 05:47.49 | chrisag | all i have is 'bookmarks' and root folder |
| 05:48.00 | canllaith | Well what are the names of the themes... |
| 05:48.16 | chrisag | baghira and plastik and.... keramik. |
| 05:48.24 | chrisag | i know the last two are in both. |
| 05:48.31 | chrisag | and baghira is one I added. |
| 05:48.32 | canllaith | ok so I guess it's safe to say those plugins were built against your system qt |
| 05:48.54 | chrisag | yes |
| 05:48.55 | canllaith | For the menus, can you try running 'kbuildsycoca --noincremental' |
| 05:49.01 | chrisag | lib/qt3/plugins |
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| 05:49.22 | canllaith | and try adding your konstruct qt to LD_LIBRARY_PATH |
| 05:49.38 | chrisag | I got a lot of errors. |
| 05:49.42 | kendrick | hehe |
| 05:49.42 | chrisag | when I ran that. |
| 05:49.49 | canllaith | It's pretty noisy, yeah |
| 05:49.52 | kendrick | HItriko-sa's problem was there was a space in one of the folder names |
| 05:49.56 | kendrick | And Firefox's shell script borked |
| 05:50.00 | kendrick | *sigh* |
| 05:50.10 | canllaith | oh, the one that was a KDE problem? ;) |
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| 05:50.15 | kendrick | hey |
| 05:50.17 | chrisag | ok so now I'm adding to ld library path my qtdir in konstruct |
| 05:50.20 | kendrick | pretty damned hard to tell |
| 05:50.22 | chrisag | should I cahnge the other one back as well? |
| 05:50.25 | kendrick | "I click an icon and nothing happens" |
| 05:50.31 | kendrick | could very well be a Konq problem |
| 05:50.32 | Mortal | hi , i cant find panel icon zooming in kde3.4 dioes it still exist? |
| 05:50.34 | canllaith | chrisag: mmmm 'other one back' ? what do you mean ? |
| 05:50.36 | canllaith | Mortal: no. |
| 05:50.42 | canllaith | chrisag: add it as QTDIR/lib |
| 05:50.48 | chrisag | when you asked me to change QTDIR to my normal one. |
| 05:50.49 | canllaith | so I guess that's kde3.4/lib ? |
| 05:50.53 | chrisag | my system one. |
| 05:50.54 | canllaith | ah, yes please :) |
| 05:51.12 | Mortal | canllaith, oh , ok ill stop looking for it then , thanks |
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| 05:51.58 | chrisag | my ld lib path is the same as the qt one |
| 05:52.09 | chrisag | except that qt points to just ~/kde3.4 |
| 05:52.15 | chrisag | whereas lib adds /lib |
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| 05:52.28 | chrisag | and my PATH is ~/kde3.4/bin |
| 05:52.55 | chrisag | well plus $PATH the originals. |
| 05:53.47 | chrisag | well let's see if that menu one worked. |
| 05:53.51 | chrisag | i'll brb |
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| 05:54.56 | chrisag | nope nothign worked :( |
| 05:55.03 | canllaith | Can you do me a favour |
| 05:55.06 | chrisag | sure. |
| 05:55.07 | canllaith | and go into KDEDIR/bin |
| 05:55.11 | canllaith | do ldd konqueror | grep qt |
| 05:55.29 | chrisag | no such file or directory. |
| 05:55.41 | canllaith | erm, well find the directory that contains konqueror |
| 05:55.45 | canllaith | oh, do you *have* ldd ? |
| 05:55.53 | canllaith | `which ldd` tells you.. / |
| 05:55.54 | chrisag | yup |
| 05:55.56 | canllaith | ok |
| 05:56.04 | canllaith | well find your new konstruct konqueror |
| 05:56.05 | chrisag | 2.3.4 |
| 05:56.08 | chrisag | ok |
| 05:56.10 | chrisag | got it. |
| 05:56.12 | canllaith | and do ldd konqueror | grep qt :) |
| 05:56.30 | chrisag | found it |
| 05:56.39 | chrisag | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:57.05 | Octane | is there a way to get th emiddle mouse working in Konqueror? |
| 05:57.11 | Octane | when browsing webpages? |
| 05:57.13 | Octane | to scroll |
| 05:57.24 | canllaith | chrisag: just out of curiosity, go and change your theme in kcontrol if it works |
| 05:57.26 | dstambou | hi everyone |
| 05:57.27 | kendrick | you mean buttons 3 and 4 ? :) |
| 05:57.36 | chrisag | canllaith i'd love to |
| 05:57.41 | chrisag | But none of my settings pages.. |
| 05:57.42 | canllaith | kcontrol wont work? |
| 05:57.45 | Octane | kendrick, hehe i mean getting the neat thing you get in firefox when you press it down so you can scroll up and down |
| 05:57.47 | chrisag | are not 'empty' |
| 05:57.51 | Octane | not talking about the wheel |
| 05:58.04 | kendrick | ooooooh |
| 05:58.05 | chrisag | even kcontrol is empty. |
| 05:58.13 | kendrick | sorry |
| 05:58.32 | canllaith | Octane: Yeah, it does ... let me check that |
| 05:58.39 | Octane | canllaith, awesmet hank you |
| 05:58.43 | Octane | awesome* |
| 05:58.47 | Octane | i think im gonna switch from firfox to konq |
| 05:58.48 | canllaith | chrisag: urrrrrg :S |
| 05:58.52 | chrisag | haha |
| 05:58.54 | chrisag | you're telling me. |
| 05:59.02 | canllaith | can you try exporting KDEHOME to a different location? |
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| 05:59.17 | canllaith | since kde is in your home dir we can't really make a new user, but you can start your kde with KDEHOME=~/.kdetesting |
| 05:59.29 | chrisag | it's funny... i decided to get rid of 10.1 (which I compiled kde3.4 wonderfully on outside that highlight thing) and 10.2 rc 1 hates me. |
| 05:59.40 | chrisag | yeah i have it in .kdetest |
| 05:59.47 | chrisag | but we can start alll over |
| 05:59.54 | canllaith | Octane: I *know* it does it but I can't find the option... heh |
| 06:00.22 | chrisag | alrighty done. |
| 06:01.03 | canllaith | For the life of me I can't find it, although it's listed as a new feature |
| 06:02.15 | chrisag | maybe... |
| 06:02.25 | chrisag | I should just give up... and stick with 3.3.2... |
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| 06:03.15 | Octane | konqi needs a feature to import settings from firfox :) |
| 06:03.36 | canllaith | There are others who know more about mismatched qt problems, lauri for a start. Maybe someone else could help you a bit later |
| 06:03.49 | chrisag | well it's not even just hat |
| 06:03.51 | chrisag | that* |
| 06:04.00 | chrisag | the main menu doesnt work... |
| 06:04.19 | chrisag | the settings panels don't work for konqueror OR kcontrol. |
| 06:04.29 | chrisag | so... i'm pretty much missing everything and it's brother lol. |
| 06:04.36 | canllaith | and if your qt is messed up, that will do that. |
| 06:04.39 | chrisag | oh |
| 06:05.06 | chrisag | should I try doing it all manually |
| 06:05.10 | chrisag | That's entirely my fault at this point |
| 06:05.16 | canllaith | You should try waiting for your distro to release packages. |
| 06:05.21 | chrisag | that too... |
| 06:05.25 | chrisag | But that won't be for a long time. |
| 06:05.40 | chrisag | because mandrake dislikes upgrading the user interface |
| 06:05.43 | canllaith | Konstruct has this slight problem, which is it's designed by a very skilled KDE core developer, aimed toward people who maybe don't know the KDE build system all that well |
| 06:05.46 | chrisag | I should switch to gentoo. |
| 06:05.47 | kendrick | woo - qtopia-based phone |
| 06:05.48 | kendrick | http://www.digitimes.com/NewsShow/20050317A6032_files/image014.gif |
| 06:05.52 | canllaith | So they can build KDE |
| 06:05.57 | chrisag | yeah |
| 06:06.04 | canllaith | Unfortunately, he a: Isn't so good at judging the skill level of the rest of us |
| 06:06.11 | chrisag | lol |
| 06:06.24 | canllaith | b: most Konstruct problems require lots of skill to debug, that we're *using* konstruct in the first place because we don't have it. |
| 06:07.14 | chrisag | well |
| 06:07.17 | chrisag | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:07.26 | chrisag | i just didn't want to have to sit and watch it |
| 06:08.21 | canllaith | (for i in `ls`; do pushd $i; make > makelog 2>&1; sudo make install; popd; done ) |
| 06:08.40 | canllaith | So there are no mandrake packages for KDE ? |
| 06:09.00 | chrisag | i don't think they're offical? |
| 06:09.02 | canllaith | I thought the reason Mandrake came into existance all those years ago was to be a more optimised, bleeding-edge distro than redhat |
| 06:09.07 | canllaith | existence* |
| 06:09.52 | chrisag | that's what i thought too |
| 06:09.57 | chrisag | but since fedora core |
| 06:10.04 | chrisag | FC is more up to date |
| 06:10.10 | chrisag | it jsut doesn't install grub correctly |
| 06:10.12 | chrisag | :( |
| 06:10.24 | canllaith | which reminds me I should install grub on my slack |
| 06:10.25 | _jb | bloody hell. |
| 06:10.31 | chrisag | i heard gentoo was really good. |
| 06:10.36 | chrisag | I hate grub. |
| 06:10.36 | _jb | snapgear equipment is a pain in the ass. |
| 06:10.50 | canllaith | if you like compiling all day, sure. |
| 06:10.57 | AnotherData | slack is the only distro ive liked, and ive tried quite a few tho debian was nice |
| 06:11.03 | chrisag | aren't those ebuilds useful? |
| 06:11.13 | AnotherData | but couldnt get the monitor resolution set right |
| 06:11.37 | canllaith | Just edit your xorg.conf ? |
| 06:11.43 | AnotherData | yeah |
| 06:11.49 | chrisag | ok brb |
| 06:11.52 | AnotherData | but i was a complete n00b when i tried it |
| 06:12.00 | AnotherData | lol |
| 06:13.09 | AnotherData | only thing i havent got working in slack is the scroll on my mouse |
| 06:13.20 | AnotherData | prob have to edit xorg.conf for that to |
| 06:14.35 | canllaith | I have a tute for that in slack |
| 06:14.48 | AnotherData | tho scroll really aint that important |
| 06:14.51 | AnotherData | to me |
| 06:14.53 | canllaith | http://bryson.co.nz/linuxtip.cgi?21 |
| 06:15.14 | canllaith | and |
| 06:15.15 | canllaith | http://bryson.co.nz/linuxtip.cgi?22 |
| 06:15.32 | AnotherData | canllaith: Thanks for the links |
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| 06:18.01 | chrisag | I just wanted to come back and say thank you for your help canllaith |
| 06:18.14 | canllaith | oh gosh, you're welcome. Sorry I couldn't help you more |
| 06:18.23 | chrisag | I'll work on it and see what i can come up with... it could be something odd with the RC too. |
| 06:18.40 | chrisag | because the only problem I had when compiling in 10.1 was the highlighting. |
| 06:18.57 | canllaith | That highlighting if it is what I think it is |
| 06:19.06 | canllaith | generally is caused by the wrong qt at runtime |
| 06:19.15 | canllaith | it's the 'check' style, a built in qt one used by translators etc |
| 06:19.24 | chrisag | ohhh |
| 06:19.37 | chrisag | well i think what konstruct does is automatically done the libs for you |
| 06:19.40 | canllaith | So it can't use your KDE themes, cause they were built against a different qt |
| 06:19.45 | chrisag | and put them in your own folder. |
| 06:19.48 | canllaith | So it has to use a built in qt one. |
| 06:19.49 | chrisag | yeah |
| 06:19.56 | chrisag | hrmm. |
| 06:20.08 | chrisag | I could always bug mandrake to give me updates ;) |
| 06:20.09 | chrisag | haha |
| 06:20.17 | canllaith | Yeah unless you put HAVE_QT in your conf filey thingy it should download and build it for you |
| 06:20.28 | chrisag | yeah i didn't do that |
| 06:20.29 | chrisag | so it did. |
| 06:20.36 | canllaith | :) |
| 06:20.41 | canllaith | One of these days I should install mandrake |
| 06:20.45 | canllaith | and do my best to break konstruct on it |
| 06:20.46 | AnotherData | whats the command for Kate to launch in konsole? |
| 06:20.52 | canllaith | cause it's 95% mandrake users that have problems |
| 06:20.52 | chrisag | I like to to be honest. |
| 06:20.54 | canllaith | erm, kate =p |
| 06:20.59 | AnotherData | command not found |
| 06:21.07 | canllaith | Check your $PATH |
| 06:21.12 | chrisag | I mean granted I've only tried three linux dist and a few unix. |
| 06:21.12 | canllaith | prolly you don't have /opt/kde/bin in it |
| 06:21.13 | chrisag | but still. |
| 06:21.17 | AnotherData | oh ok |
| 06:21.51 | AnotherData | ah forgot to do ./ |
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| 06:22.10 | X-The | anyone? |
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| 06:23.26 | chrisag | see canllaith now you have me wondering what version of qt I actually have installed. |
| 06:23.30 | canllaith | heh |
| 06:23.56 | chrisag | well... i know it's at least 3 ;) |
| 06:24.27 | X-The | in konqueror if i click to configure it, it appears an empty window, is possible to fix this? |
| 06:24.38 | chrisag | oh well looky here |
| 06:24.39 | chrisag | lol |
| 06:24.46 | X-The | is only possible to configure konq through kcontrol |
| 06:25.10 | AnotherData | ok |
| 06:25.12 | AnotherData | brb |
| 06:25.15 | AnotherData | hope this works |
| 06:25.18 | chrisag | canllaith: I didn't know I could configure qt with their own program! |
| 06:26.03 | chrisag | I found the problem! |
| 06:26.13 | chrisag | Both qt's try to point at the system one! |
| 06:26.17 | chrisag | instead of the kde3.4 |
| 06:26.46 | chrisag | thought I could be delirious |
| 06:26.51 | chrisag | I think if I change something it might work.. |
| 06:31.07 | chrisag | I think I'm playing with fire though here |
| 06:31.07 | chrisag | lol |
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| 06:35.19 | Octane | http://www.kde-apps.org/content/preview.php?preview=2&id=10214&file1=10214-1.png&file2=10214-2.png&file3=10214-3.png&name=Krusader |
| 06:35.23 | Octane | can anyone tell what icon theme that is? |
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| 06:35.53 | chrisag | ok so guess what |
| 06:35.57 | chrisag | We have a breakthrough. |
| 06:36.02 | chavo | Octane, nuvola |
| 06:36.14 | Octane | chavo, thank you |
| 06:36.50 | chrisag | canllaith: you still around? |
| 06:36.58 | canllaith | mmmmmm ? :) |
| 06:37.09 | chrisag | so I got rid of the annoying highlights :-D |
| 06:37.20 | canllaith | Yay! |
| 06:37.26 | chrisag | but i still don't have anything on the configuration stuff |
| 06:37.26 | chrisag | haha |
| 06:37.34 | canllaith | mmm ok |
| 06:37.36 | chrisag | which is a slight problem. |
| 06:37.40 | chrisag | ;) |
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| 06:37.46 | canllaith | try kbuildsycoca --noincremental again now you have the right qt (we hope!) |
| 06:38.07 | canllaith | oooh karamba is making my laptop get all nice and warm and toasty |
| 06:38.15 | chrisag | lol |
| 06:38.20 | slayerbob | in wellington ? |
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| 06:38.25 | chrisag | ok now. time to restart kde and see what's up |
| 06:38.25 | slayerbob | it's usually warm there :| |
| 06:38.32 | canllaith | It's *really* cold here last few days :( |
| 06:38.36 | slayerbob | awww :( |
| 06:38.49 | AnotherData | canllaith: I did what the link said and i was no able to boot back into X |
| 06:39.01 | AnotherData | i am using knoppix live cd now |
| 06:39.04 | canllaith | Then go and double check it |
| 06:39.14 | canllaith | and make sure you have not made any typo's at all, and that you have copied it exactly |
| 06:39.18 | AnotherData | ok |
| 06:39.54 | canllaith | That's for Slackware 9.1 so for 10 or 10.1 you'd want to use xorg.conf obviously |
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| 06:40.05 | chrisag | ok well |
| 06:40.07 | chrisag | that didn't work. |
| 06:40.33 | canllaith | AnotherData: and your mouse device might be different, it could be say /dev/psaux if it's not a usb mouse |
| 06:40.41 | chrisag | and kcontrol still isn't working either unfortunately. |
| 06:40.45 | chrisag | well has nothing in it |
| 06:40.50 | AnotherData | it was /dev/mouse |
| 06:40.57 | canllaith | So, all you should have added was the ZAxis Mapping, basically |
| 06:41.10 | canllaith | Well, mount your / partition somewhere you can get to it from knoppix and check your xorg.conf for any typos |
| 06:41.58 | AnotherData | no typos |
| 06:42.01 | AnotherData | so far |
| 06:42.15 | AnotherData | i g2g |
| 06:42.18 | AnotherData | ill bbl |
| 06:42.27 | chrisag | canllaith: it's not finding any apps... which is odd. |
| 06:42.31 | AnotherData | ill get it workin |
| 06:42.36 | canllaith | Not really no |
| 06:42.37 | chrisag | which probably means it's paths are off somewhere right |
| 06:42.43 | canllaith | It's perfectly consistant with what you're reporting lol |
| 06:43.02 | canllaith | If your PATH KDEDIR QTDIR LD_LIBRARY_PATH etc are really truly set right then I'm stumped. |
| 06:43.06 | chrisag | well... yeah haha |
| 06:43.10 | canllaith | This is a very clear case of bad configuration like that..... |
| 06:43.22 | chrisag | at least I got rid of the highlights :-p |
| 06:43.23 | chrisag | lol |
| 06:43.28 | canllaith | heh |
| 06:43.52 | chrisag | I'm really curious as to what's wrong too |
| 06:44.01 | canllaith | So let us see if Konversation has changed their icon *again* |
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| 06:44.32 | chrisag | I need all of them :( |
| 06:44.34 | chrisag | apparently. |
| 06:44.55 | chrisag | i can't figure out if it's because i'm that misled... |
| 06:44.58 | canllaith | The empty kcontrol thingo is usually fixed by kbuildsycoca :( |
| 06:45.12 | chrisag | well should i try it without the --noincremental |
| 06:45.14 | chrisag | and see what's up |
| 06:45.17 | canllaith | Nah |
| 06:45.44 | chrisag | kbuildsycoca: WARNING: 'kfile_koffice.desktop' specifies undefined mimetype/servicetype 'application/vnd.kde.kontou |
| 06:45.48 | chrisag | should I be getting errors liek that? |
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| 06:45.50 | canllaith | yeah |
| 06:46.15 | canllaith | ok I'm gonna make me some dinner bbs |
| 06:46.29 | chrisag | k |
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| 06:46.51 | chrisag | eh well back to 3.3 for the time being |
| 06:47.35 | X-The | in konqueror if i click to configure it, it appears an empty window, is possible to fix this? |
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| 06:51.34 | delltony | ok really stupid question where do you find the menu to view your files i updated and before i had personal files on the menu but now i don't see it |
| 06:52.40 | MrGrim | view your files I updated? |
| 06:52.54 | MrGrim | that sounds.... ominous |
| 06:53.08 | delltony | no sorry what i mean is this |
| 06:53.24 | delltony | before on the menu i could click on view personal files |
| 06:53.29 | delltony | and it would bring up my home dir |
| 06:53.34 | delltony | now i do't see anything like that |
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| 06:54.19 | MrGrim | everything else is there? |
| 06:54.32 | delltony | yes |
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| 06:55.04 | delltony | all i'm asking really simple how do you view your directory now in kde i can add he menu item back if needed if i know the command |
| 06:55.27 | MrGrim | hmm.. weird.. get someone here to show you how to add it back, but in the meantime you can go to your home directory from the sidebar in konqueror in the file manager profile |
| 06:55.33 | MrGrim | I gtg tho |
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| 06:58.21 | delltony | anyone? |
| 06:59.27 | chrisag | what was the question |
| 06:59.44 | delltony | how do you add to the menu a way to view your files (home dir) |
| 06:59.44 | grepper | delltony: not sure what you mean - you mean quick browser on the menu ? |
| 06:59.59 | delltony | i mean like this sorry let me try to be clear |
| 07:00.22 | delltony | before i could hit on the menu personal files an folders |
| 07:00.28 | delltony | and it would bring up konqueror in my home folder |
| 07:00.36 | delltony | but now i don't see that and i would like to add it back |
| 07:03.52 | chrisag | canllaith: do you think I should recompile with konstruct using --have-qt |
| 07:04.01 | delltony | :( |
| 07:04.54 | chrisag | well just leave me a PM :-D |
| 07:05.02 | chrisag | or better yet maybe i'll try it |
| 07:05.59 | delltony | chrisag, do you not know how to add konqueror to your menu and have it open up the home dir? |
| 07:06.22 | chrisag | dell: It doesnt remember in my compile.... |
| 07:06.33 | chrisag | and it doesn't even add anything to the kcontrol panel ;) |
| 07:06.45 | chrisag | So I can't actually access programs or settings. |
| 07:08.25 | chrisag | not a big deal |
| 07:08.34 | chrisag | But night everyone and thos who helped. |
| 07:10.15 | grepper | delltony: perhaps you mean configure panel->menu->quick browser |
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| 07:15.55 | delltony | let me try |
| 07:16.46 | delltony | be nice if i could find whta your talking about |
| 07:17.46 | delltony | no not that |
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| 07:18.04 | delltony | i simply want a way to load konquer but pass it a command to open the home dir |
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| 07:24.09 | sredna | Hi |
| 07:24.54 | btb | hi |
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| 07:32.11 | MrGrim | kfmclient openProfile filemanagement |
| 07:32.42 | MrGrim | delltony: |
| 07:32.50 | delltony | yes? |
| 07:33.05 | MrGrim | are you blind? |
| 07:33.14 | delltony | well simply statign what i want it can't be that hard. and no |
| 07:33.17 | delltony | i'm not blind |
| 07:33.26 | MrGrim | wth do you think I just did? |
| 07:33.44 | MrGrim | do you need a big flashing neon sign? |
| 07:33.47 | delltony | i'm not playing games dude. |
| 07:33.51 | MrGrim | *** kfmclient openProfile filemanagement *** |
| 07:34.14 | delltony | i just asked a simple question and it could be some folks work :) but anyway |
| 07:37.26 | canllaith | delltony: kfmclient OpenURL . |
| 07:37.32 | canllaith | can try that |
| 07:37.42 | delltony | what he stated worked i was just away |
| 07:37.45 | canllaith | sorry |
| 07:37.46 | canllaith | open* |
| 07:37.50 | delltony | sorry just really damn fustrated |
| 07:37.56 | delltony | plus its late sorry MrGrim |
| 07:37.58 | canllaith | That doesn't open the current directory but what you saved in the profile |
| 07:39.21 | MrGrim | delltony: you know you can always just type your home directory in any konqueror window.. |
| 07:39.37 | delltony | yeah i know that works too |
| 07:39.40 | delltony | i just wanted a launcher |
| 07:39.53 | delltony | ok so how do you add the thing to the little panel if you will down at the bottom |
| 07:40.01 | delltony | i don't see a way to add a custom launcher |
| 07:41.08 | MrGrim | you add a quick launcher applet |
| 07:41.14 | MrGrim | or if you already have one you right click on its handle |
| 07:41.16 | MrGrim | and configure it |
| 07:41.54 | canllaith | The easiest way really, to make a custom launcher that's not already in your Kmenu |
| 07:42.02 | canllaith | is to actually make it on your desktop |
| 07:42.11 | canllaith | then drag it to your panel. Kdesktop has lovely tools for making launchers. |
| 07:42.44 | delltony | ok |
| 07:42.46 | MrGrim | wasn't kde 3.4 suppose to add the ability to drag applets between panels? |
| 07:43.02 | canllaith | No idea, I've only ever used the one panel |
| 07:43.49 | MrGrim | 1280MB of RAM and I'm out |
| 07:43.51 | MrGrim | priceless |
| 07:44.00 | MrGrim | and I'm not even doing anything |
| 07:44.05 | canllaith | yikes |
| 07:44.21 | delltony | geeze what the hell happen to my install grr menu editor doesn't work anymore damn i'm going to take a break before i thru this laptop out a window haha |
| 07:44.41 | MrGrim | X just keeps eatin more and more |
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| 07:56.09 | sredna | Hello canllaith :) |
| 07:56.09 | MrGrim | damnit they didn't fix the problem with draggin icons leaving garbage all over the screen |
| 07:56.14 | MrGrim | 3.4 needed another rc |
| 07:56.23 | MrGrim | why did they feel the need to rush this :/ |
| 07:56.26 | sredna | MrGrim: No such thing here |
| 07:57.01 | canllaith | Hey there sredna :) |
| 07:57.13 | canllaith | No problem here MrGrim that's very likely to be something to do with your X driver. |
| 07:57.14 | sredna | Is 'there are enough that I would bla bla..' valid english? |
| 07:57.29 | canllaith | Needs more context, but it sound ok to me |
| 07:57.34 | sredna | Thanks :) |
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| 07:58.41 | MrGrim | I shoulda voted for teh bug report |
| 07:59.02 | MrGrim | canllaith: one would think if it was a driver problem I'd see corruption elsewhere too |
| 07:59.24 | canllaith | I have no problems here on an ati rage, neomagic nm256, various nvidia cards and an ati radeon |
| 07:59.30 | canllaith | or on trident cyberblade ... |
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| 07:59.33 | MrGrim | this is nvidia |
| 07:59.37 | canllaith | So it's obviously not a terribly generic problem. |
| 07:59.51 | MrGrim | whenever I move icons in konqi or kdesktop they leave garbage all over the damn place |
| 08:00.14 | straw | MrGrim: which release of nvidia's drivers |
| 08:00.18 | MrGrim | and only in the konqi/kdesktop context |
| 08:00.23 | MrGrim | if I drag it over another app it is fine |
| 08:00.30 | canllaith | I used to have that occasionaly on my neomagic 256zx. I don't have it on any other machine with the identical install of KDE, so I'm assuming it's the drivers. |
| 08:00.32 | sarah03 | Can't say I've had any problems here, either. Running either natively on both a Matrox Mystique and a Radeon 9000, and on a framebuffer. |
| 08:00.41 | canllaith | Updating xorg and kernel fixed it. |
| 08:00.47 | MrGrim | 6629 |
| 08:01.04 | MrGrim | well I know it's not just me damnit |
| 08:01.22 | straw | tried 7167. 2d corruption was among the fixes |
| 08:02.33 | MrGrim | it'll be a bit |
| 08:02.39 | MrGrim | it's in there with 350 megs of other crap to be compiled |
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| 08:36.50 | sredna | Man, something needs to be done to that textarea widget in konqueror |
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| 08:38.32 | oneforall | from alt f2 or where ever but not the right click on the destop cause it doesn't work. how can I refresh the destop ? |
| 08:38.39 | oneforall | it went all black now |
| 08:39.07 | sredna | oneforall: Sorry, what? |
| 08:39.40 | oneforall | how can I refresh the destop ? |
| 08:39.55 | oneforall | from term or alt F2 |
| 08:40.13 | oneforall | the destop is black and right clicking on it gets no response |
| 08:40.25 | sredna | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:41.05 | oneforall | damn did that seen a flicker but nope hmm |
| 08:41.05 | sredna | But it sounds like it crashed, so maybe 'killall kdesktop' and then 'kdesktop' would be better (from the ALT + F2 prompt) |
| 08:41.38 | sredna | Though, after killing it you wouldn't have a prompt |
| 08:42.01 | oneforall | kdesktop worked thanks |
| 08:43.14 | sredna | It probably died :) |
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| 08:46.56 | oneforall | thanks |
| 08:48.29 | oneforall | yeah I was tring capture with lives and when I did the killall I did get a ppopup about transparency .Plus I finally realized that lives wasn;'t just capturing it once but it had don it 14oo + time before i figured out I needed to hit x to stop it lol |
| 08:49.03 | oneforall | and I see now I typed that I have some black where I type and a bit of the transparency |
| 08:50.09 | oneforall | wow it even turned it off in xchat . whe into prefrence and the box was unchecked but not tint |
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| 08:51.09 | Julianyus | hi |
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| 08:58.02 | AnotherData | :| |
| 08:58.02 | AnotherData | just when i was trying to get help to :/ |
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| 08:58.18 | sarah03 | AnotherData: Give it a few minutes, the network wll come back together shortly. |
| 08:58.23 | AnotherData | ok |
| 08:58.45 | Mortal | hi, in konqueror for file system browsing , how do i make the default view mode list details? |
| 09:01.11 | slayerbob | we hope :P |
| 09:01.27 | AnotherData | no 1 in #xorg is alive,lol |
| 09:02.51 | AnotherData | guess im sol |
| 09:03.38 | AnotherData | brb |
| 09:03.42 | slayerbob | hi sol |
| 09:03.53 | slayerbob | awww he left before i could make a lame astronomical joke :( |
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| 09:06.25 | Mortal | hi, in konqueror for file system browsing , how do i make the default view mode list details? |
| 09:08.39 | canllaith | Set it up how you want it, then do save view profile filemanagement |
| 09:11.27 | Mortal | canllaith, ah , thanks |
| 09:17.12 | canllaith | bahahahaha |
| 09:17.13 | canllaith | http://bash.org/?38725 |
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| 09:28.11 | qwertz | Hi! If I use ALT+F2 to run a command and there is no such command kde starts konqueror and tries to load a web page with the entered words - I'd like to disable this feature, is there any setting for? |
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| 09:35.54 | shastry | hi all |
| 09:36.10 | shastry | anyway to bind the window keys to the kmenu ? |
| 09:36.50 | sredna | qwertz: Ti does not work like that here |
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| 09:38.08 | sredna | It - I can type 'it' |
| 09:38.26 | slayerbob | woohoo |
| 09:38.36 | slayerbob | :P |
| 09:38.40 | slayerbob | hiya sredna :P |
| 09:38.51 | sredna | Hello slayerbob :) |
| 09:39.19 | shastry | so anyone got any idea as to how to bind the window keys to the kmenu ? |
| 09:39.23 | sredna | I just thought everybody had a right to know :o |
| 09:39.28 | slayerbob | :P |
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| 09:40.11 | sredna | shastry: You need to change the win key from beeing a modifie to beeing an ordinary key |
| 09:40.20 | sredna | shastry: But I don'tknow how to do that |
| 09:40.37 | shastry | i too was looking as to how to do that :| |
| 09:40.44 | shastry | it lists win key as mod4 |
| 09:41.10 | slayerbob | should i worry about authentication rejected errors while running konstruct ? |
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| 09:43.53 | sredna | I crashed kcontrol :o |
| 09:44.00 | slayerbob | sweet |
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| 09:44.57 | sredna | I've converted to dane for a while |
| 09:45.09 | slayerbob | excellent plan |
| 09:45.26 | sredna | I wonder if I can find out living with all those changes - danish, serif font.. |
| 09:47.03 | slayerbob | find out what ? |
| 09:47.17 | anisX | hai slayerbob |
| 09:47.22 | slayerbob | hiya anisX |
| 09:47.31 | slayerbob | is this your permanent new name now anisX ? |
| 09:47.42 | anisX | i think so uncle bob.. |
| 09:47.47 | anisX | why ? u dont like anisx ? |
| 09:47.54 | anisX | or do u like "bietch" ? |
| 09:47.56 | slayerbob | makes no difference to me :P |
| 09:48.10 | anisX | and why u asking then ? |
| 09:48.17 | anisX | just for fun ? |
| 09:48.35 | slayerbob | just making conversation while waiting for kde to compile |
| 09:48.41 | slayerbob | i must be really dumb |
| 09:48.52 | slayerbob | i have this fully operational copy of kde just waiting to be installed |
| 09:49.01 | slayerbob | but i want to see what the official release looks like :P |
| 09:49.18 | slayerbob | and i figure if i screw it up at the moment it won't matter since i haven't installed anything else yet :P |
| 09:49.53 | lauri | why swedish? |
| 09:50.10 | slayerbob | see previous explanation :) |
| 09:50.32 | lauri | which one? |
| 09:50.44 | slayerbob | :P |
| 09:50.55 | slayerbob | the one just before tha |
| 09:50.56 | slayerbob | *that |
| 09:51.15 | slayerbob | besides i want to know what bork! bork! bork! means :P |
| 09:51.44 | lauri | nothing whatsoever, I am quite sure the swedish chef was actually dutch |
| 09:51.47 | sredna | Either the font I use is buggy, or kcontrol is -> http://83.73.143.23:8002/oddtextinkcontrol.png |
| 09:51.51 | slayerbob | LOL |
| 09:51.54 | sredna | Hi lauri |
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| 09:52.02 | slayerbob | oh yeah hiya lauri :P |
| 09:52.04 | lauri | (sorry to disillusion you, but it was one of my first questions when I met Matt :) |
| 09:52.08 | slayerbob | :P |
| 09:52.35 | slayerbob | did he look at you blankly ? |
| 09:52.50 | lauri | pretty much |
| 09:52.53 | slayerbob | :P |
| 09:52.58 | lauri | but he knew the words to manamana |
| 09:53.02 | slayerbob | :P |
| 09:53.06 | lauri | so I forgave him, and here we still are |
| 09:53.07 | slayerbob | well who doesn't ? |
| 09:53.10 | slayerbob | :P |
| 09:53.22 | lauri | yeah, I'm easy, obviously |
| 09:54.28 | slayerbob | aren't we all ? :P |
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| 09:56.34 | sredna | Yay |
| 09:57.01 | shastry | yay ? |
| 09:57.07 | sredna | lauri: Do we have somthing that can link from a button to the correct place in the po file? |
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| 09:57.37 | slayerbob | mmmm vodka |
| 09:58.01 | sredna | shastry: 'taskbar' has been translated to 'opgavelinie' which is at best an example of nonsense |
| 09:58.12 | slayerbob | :P |
| 09:58.16 | sycofly | hehe |
| 09:58.57 | sycofly | slayerbob: .. you ever been in a bar when that has happened ? |
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| 09:59.19 | slayerbob | when what has happened ? |
| 09:59.22 | slayerbob | although no |
| 09:59.26 | slayerbob | since i do not go to bars |
| 09:59.32 | slayerbob | could not stand the smoke |
| 09:59.45 | slayerbob | and now that there is no smoke i am not really interested any more |
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| 09:59.47 | sycofly | have you not ever travelled ? slayerbob |
| 09:59.54 | slayerbob | nope |
| 09:59.58 | slayerbob | never been out of christchurch |
| 10:00.14 | sycofly | true blue |
| 10:00.21 | slayerbob | for all i know the rest of the world is a complete fabrication |
| 10:01.14 | sycofly | who built the fabrication ? |
| 10:01.19 | slayerbob | meh |
| 10:01.21 | sycofly | not ya mum |
| 10:01.26 | sycofly | lol |
| 10:01.27 | slayerbob | you might as well ask "is there a god" |
| 10:01.55 | sycofly | i would not ask such a |
| 10:02.11 | slayerbob | well when you have bourbon there is really no need for such questions :P |
| 10:02.39 | sycofly | who slayed Renze |
| 10:03.04 | slayerbob | not sure - someone said something about him going off and doing something other than irc |
| 10:04.19 | sycofly | this can not be verified as a fact nor fiction |
| 10:04.35 | slayerbob | well you could always ask renze |
| 10:04.35 | sycofly | our beloved Renze is in morning |
| 10:04.44 | slayerbob | not yet |
| 10:04.49 | slayerbob | he will be in morning in about 2 hours |
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| 10:05.54 | sycofly | slayerbob: .. why you partinise me with comments .. "I never been out of CHCH" |
| 10:06.18 | slayerbob | partinise ? |
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| 10:08.52 | canllaith | Patronise |
| 10:09.08 | canllaith | and I think he meant mourning |
| 10:09.29 | canllaith | and slayerbob has been all over the US and europe. |
| 10:09.34 | canllaith | fibbing sod :P |
| 10:09.37 | slayerbob | :P |
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| 10:09.43 | slayerbob | would i tell a lie ? |
| 10:09.54 | sredna | ~seen Renze |
| 10:09.56 | apt | renze <~renze@203-79-119-53.cable.paradise.net.nz> was last seen on IRC in channel #kde, 43d 13h 33m 46s ago, saying: 'Window Decorations'. |
| 10:10.08 | slayerbob | wow he has been slack |
| 10:10.13 | slayerbob | doesn't brucehoult know him ? |
| 10:10.45 | slayerbob | hmmm |
| 10:10.55 | slayerbob | vodka goes really well with nectarine fresh up |
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| 10:11.36 | slayerbob | you coming to visit us then sredna ? |
| 10:11.47 | sredna | slayerbob: I'd love to |
| 10:11.50 | slayerbob | :P |
| 10:11.54 | light_punch2 | my kdict is not connecting to the server. is the server down?> |
| 10:11.55 | light_punch2 | ? |
| 10:12.07 | canllaith | I think so, mine is not connecting either |
| 10:12.10 | sredna | I'll bring my bike and take a month or two to struggle your mountains :p |
| 10:12.19 | lauri | there's something really dodgy going on today |
| 10:12.35 | slayerbob | there is ? |
| 10:12.38 | light_punch2 | but www.dict.org is working |
| 10:12.41 | canllaith | dict.org is up, but whether the dictionary service is up and running I have no idea. |
| 10:12.59 | lauri | I've been getting errors from google, dict.org doesn't answer, and I just got a timeout to yahoo |
| 10:13.18 | sycofly | lol |
| 10:13.18 | slayerbob | weird - google works fine here |
| 10:13.26 | sycofly | here too |
| 10:13.36 | slayerbob | although it is probably being routed to google.co.nz here |
| 10:13.43 | sycofly | I miss Renze |
| 10:13.46 | lauri | oh it works, mostly |
| 10:13.48 | sredna | Is there a new windows virus attack? |
| 10:13.48 | slayerbob | :P |
| 10:14.00 | sredna | ~seen beineri |
| 10:14.01 | apt | beineri <~Beineri@binner.kde> was last seen on IRC in channel #kde, 4d 15h 14m 23s ago, saying: 'Panzerboy: bottom http://developer.kde.org/build/compile_cvs.html'. |
| 10:14.01 | lauri | then about every few searches, I get a "server unable to complete your request, please try again in 30 seconds" page :) |
| 10:14.01 | canllaith | sycofly: /query renze and say hi, he's still around sometimes just not in here |
| 10:14.15 | lauri | sredna: I was thnking something like that, it's just like the whole internet is a bit off today |
| 10:14.19 | canllaith | ah, I keep missing him and I want to ask about konstruct stuff :\ |
| 10:14.37 | sredna | lauri: Some of those worms can send out so much email that it slows down everything |
| 10:14.39 | light_punch2 | lauri, it's www.dict.org and not http://dict.org |
| 10:14.41 | slayerbob | is casablanca any good ? |
| 10:14.43 | lauri | yeah |
| 10:14.47 | canllaith | yes |
| 10:14.57 | lauri | light_punch2: and... |
| 10:15.01 | sredna | lauri: Of course it could be torrent downloads of kubuntu and arklinux :p |
| 10:15.08 | sycofly | slayerbob: .. im not sure |
| 10:15.15 | lauri | ooh, let's slashdot that theory |
| 10:15.49 | light_punch2 | lauri, oh.. i thought that was your problem |
| 10:15.55 | sredna | Well, a http download last night was crawling at an average of < 30 kbps |
| 10:16.03 | slayerbob | ouch :( |
| 10:16.15 | lauri | I don't actually have a problem |
| 10:16.16 | *** part/#kde light_punch2 (1000@usrns185.dialup.hawaii.edu) |
| 10:16.16 | sycofly | turn up the dialup |
| 10:16.29 | lauri | and I'm sticking to that story |
| 10:16.52 | sycofly | *cough |
| 10:18.08 | sycofly | slayerbob: .. the nic .. where did you get it from .. a bad night.. a good morning ? |
| 10:18.21 | slayerbob | just came from a supplier |
| 10:18.32 | sycofly | packaged |
| 10:18.33 | slayerbob | this particular one i think came from computer dynamics |
| 10:19.47 | slayerbob | ? |
| 10:19.52 | sycofly | huh |
| 10:19.53 | slayerbob | nic = network interface card ? |
| 10:20.00 | lauri | I'm thinking sycofly was more interested in your nickname, than your ethernet card |
| 10:20.06 | slayerbob | ohhhh |
| 10:20.08 | sycofly | or nic .. as in name |
| 10:20.14 | slayerbob | i thought it was an odd question |
| 10:20.20 | lauri | heh |
| 10:20.28 | slayerbob | oh my name comes from my tk skills |
| 10:20.30 | slayerbob | i was bob |
| 10:20.34 | slayerbob | then i became slayerbob |
| 10:21.07 | canllaith | he bloody camps and teamkills =p |
| 10:21.09 | canllaith | he's awful |
| 10:21.13 | slayerbob | :P |
| 10:21.52 | slayerbob | i think i first acquired this name after i won a game of age of empires, then switched sides and won again against my former teammates :P |
| 10:22.19 | sarah03 | slayerbob: Just kicking everyone's ass, huh? |
| 10:22.21 | slayerbob | one of them did not like that tactic |
| 10:22.43 | slayerbob | probably cos i had an army inside his base thingo and had somewhat more advanced tech at the time i switched sides |
| 10:22.59 | slayerbob | sarah03, only by cheating :P |
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| 10:26.52 | slayerbob | actually i probably should change my nick sometime |
| 10:30.09 | derkling | hi *! |
| 10:30.11 | derkling | I've found a strange behavior in KDE: I've observed that if I'm playing a video (i.e. with mplayer), while I'm dragging another window the video doesn't update... is it a KDE miss? |
| 10:30.18 | slayerbob | man way to kill a channel sycofly |
| 10:30.41 | slayerbob | derkling, i think that is just mplayer on some video chipsets |
| 10:31.13 | derkling | really?!?... it happens also with xine... |
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| 10:31.30 | slayerbob | does it happen in other desktop thingos ? |
| 10:31.43 | derkling | desktop manager? |
| 10:31.53 | slayerbob | like kde, xfce, gnome, etc... |
| 10:32.13 | slayerbob | if it happens in two of them you can be fairly sure it is nothing to do with kde in particular :P |
| 10:34.00 | derkling | yeah... I'm going to try... |
| 10:35.30 | sredna | derkling: It depends on the output device set for mplayer |
| 10:37.14 | derkling | sredna, what u means exactly? |
| 10:37.39 | sredna | derkling: I mean exactly that it depends on the output device set for mplayer |
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| 10:38.28 | derkling | whell... what it has to be set to in order to avoid this unliky event? ;-) |
| 10:38.37 | sredna | derkling: And a device that allows mplayer to keep playing while other apps are dragged prvides worse quality ime. But try different options, it's in kmplayers configuration |
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| 10:41.34 | derkling | I've 3 choices: XVideo, X11Shm and XVidix... the first one is selected... |
| 10:41.47 | derkling | and it's the recommended one... |
| 10:42.25 | sredna | ... because it's the one working best under X in most cases. And Xine uses a similar device. And it has that side effect. |
| 10:43.05 | derkling | ok: X11Shm is even better... |
| 10:43.35 | derkling | the same as with XVidix! |
| 10:47.35 | sredna | derkling: So did it solve the problem? |
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| 10:50.23 | derkling | no... |
| 10:51.01 | derkling | the problem persist even with differents output devices... |
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| 10:51.34 | sredna | Maybe it is a general behavior with mplayer. |
| 10:52.39 | sebr | sredna: i was told that you wrote the KActionSelector widget, is this true? |
| 10:52.56 | sredna | sebr: Yes |
| 10:53.02 | Skiver | anyone on debian here ? |
| 10:53.19 | sebr | in that case, how do set the availableListBox ? |
| 10:54.00 | sredna | sebr: I't so long time since I wrote that.. let me check |
| 10:54.23 | sebr | okay thanks |
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| 10:55.43 | sredna | sebr: It just creates it for you |
| 10:55.52 | sredna | sebr: You can't provide it yourself |
| 10:56.11 | sebr | okay, so i initialise with a QListBox or something? |
| 10:56.42 | sredna | No, the KActionSelector c'tor will do that. |
| 10:56.45 | sebr | or how do i insert items in that case? |
| 10:57.39 | sredna | sebr: Create items with availebleListBox() as parent |
| 10:57.49 | sebr | ahh okay |
| 10:57.49 | sebr | thanks |
| 11:00.59 | slayerbob | stroh! |
| 11:01.36 | sredna | sebr: There is a example here, but its a bit complicated: Find the method KFSConfigPage::init(): http://webcvs.kde.org/kdebase/kate/app/katefileselector.cpp?rev=1.50&view=markup |
| 11:01.49 | sebr | thanks |
| 11:02.04 | sredna | sebr: Is creates items in either listbox using a pointer |
| 11:02.51 | sredna | sebr: But as you can see, it uses a own listboxitem class |
| 11:03.44 | sebr | worst variable names ever. |
| 11:03.49 | sebr | l, lb, acSel, ... pfft |
| 11:03.53 | sredna | Lol |
| 11:04.03 | sebr | kate-- |
| 11:04.29 | sredna | I agree. And I have changed my habits. But they are only used within the class or method |
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| 11:04.39 | sredna | The short ones are just within a block |
| 11:04.47 | sebr | they still have to be read |
| 11:05.09 | sredna | Yea, they are just damned fast to type.. |
| 11:05.19 | sebr | hehe :) |
| 11:06.37 | markey | int foo, bar, moo; |
| 11:06.38 | markey | hehe |
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| 11:09.34 | sredna | markey: I used to tend to use 'int a, b, c;' and such within a block. One letter :-) |
| 11:09.59 | markey | right, meaningful variable names are for sissies ;) |
| 11:10.05 | markey | real men don't need that |
| 11:10.26 | uzimonkey | is there any quick way to turn cookies on and off in konq? I only want cookies for some sites, but having to go 5 or so clicks into the preferences dialog is a pain. |
| 11:10.57 | uzimonkey | (and having it ask all the time is as much as a pain) |
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| 11:12.07 | langenberg | Is it possible for Konqueror to use my 'next' and 'previous' mouse buttons just the way mozilla handles them? |
| 11:12.09 | sredna | uzimonkey: If you install kde-addons plugins for konqueror, you get 'Tools->HTML Settings' with a immediate toggle |
| 11:12.39 | sredna | langenberg: That makes no sense to me, as I don't know what mozilla does |
| 11:12.45 | derkling | sredna, I've solved!!! |
| 11:12.53 | sredna | derkling: Cool, how? |
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| 11:13.09 | derkling | sredna, yeah!... it's not a video device problem! |
| 11:13.45 | derkling | Simply it work if I avoid to DON'T show window content while drag/resize in KDE Control Center... |
| 11:13.45 | sredna | derkling: What, then? |
| 11:13.48 | langenberg | Konqueror uses XF86Forward and XF86Back |
| 11:13.55 | uzimonkey | sredna: thanks, but kubuntu doesn't have that for KDE 3.4 yet :P I guess I'll have to wait |
| 11:13.58 | sredna | derkling: Lol, noww that was simpe :) |
| 11:14.20 | derkling | sredna, but also stupid!... I don't understand whay? |
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| 11:14.57 | sredna | uzimonkey: I'm not sure what the debian package name would be, since debian splits everything into atoms or even smaller pieces |
| 11:15.00 | derkling | If I don't show the window content the sistem is more responsive... but it feel not so nice1 |
| 11:15.46 | sredna | derkling: I dont' think turning that feature off should affect what kmplayer does if other windows are moved. Personally, I'd consider that a bug. |
| 11:16.45 | derkling | me also! |
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| 11:21.37 | uzimonkey | has anyone noticed that text edit fields in Konq are very slow? |
| 11:22.40 | thiago | how slow? |
| 11:23.11 | uzimonkey | it draws very slowly |
| 11:23.22 | thiago | draw? that I've never seen |
| 11:23.27 | thiago | how can I reproduce? |
| 11:23.35 | derkling | sredna, another simple question... |
| 11:23.43 | Bille | uzimonkey: sometimes it takes a long time after changing something, i think it's the spellchecker |
| 11:23.48 | uzimonkey | and when pasting things, it'll lock for a little bit sometimes |
| 11:23.52 | sredna | Ask the channel, derkling :) |
| 11:24.00 | derkling | whay if i take a screenshot the video window appear completely blue? |
| 11:24.16 | thiago | uzimonkey: did you select the text with your mouse, before pasting over it? |
| 11:24.21 | uzimonkey | Bille: hmm.. turned it off, that doesn't help |
| 11:24.22 | sredna | uzimonkey: I curse konqueror publicly in here for that at least once a day, using versals! |
| 11:24.25 | uzimonkey | thiago: no |
| 11:24.51 | thiago | uzimonkey: so, how can I reproduce this? |
| 11:24.54 | sredna | Bille: Why would the spellchecker cause it to freeze for several seconds when I select a space? |
| 11:25.10 | uzimonkey | thiago: paste a large chunk of text into a multi-line text edit |
| 11:25.20 | thiago | Bille: not the spellchecker, it's the clipboard |
| 11:25.21 | uzimonkey | thiago: that locks konq for at least 10 seconds for me |
| 11:25.28 | Bille | sredna: dunno, it's a whole black box to me |
| 11:25.32 | sredna | Bille: It is *buggy*, slow and generally a PITA |
| 11:25.42 | thiago | uzimonkey: with something in the text edit, or empty? |
| 11:25.46 | thiago | before pasting, that is. |
| 11:26.09 | uzimonkey | thiago: both, I think. but there's usually something already in there |
| 11:26.18 | sredna | I tend more and more to edit my text in kate, and pasting it into konqueror |
| 11:26.26 | thiago | uzimonkey: did you paste over it, or next to it? |
| 11:26.52 | slayerbob | kate is pretty cool |
| 11:26.52 | thiago | instantaneous |
| 11:27.04 | uzimonkey | thiago: next to |
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| 11:27.18 | thiago | uzimonkey: where does your Qt come from? |
| 11:27.22 | derkling | whay if i take a screenshot the video window appear completely blue? |
| 11:27.32 | uzimonkey | thiago: kubuntu package |
| 11:27.39 | thiago | derkling: because that's how it works |
| 11:27.41 | Bille | thiago: pasting code snippets into bugs.kde.org is a good test |
| 11:27.42 | uzimonkey | thiago: or debian package, did the same thing there |
| 11:28.00 | thiago | uzimonkey: please make sure those packages include qt-copy patch 0048 |
| 11:28.09 | thiago | if they don't, apply it before testing again |
| 11:28.14 | derkling | thiago, so thers a work around... may be a different configuration?!? |
| 11:28.22 | derkling | why it work that way? |
| 11:28.40 | thiago | no, not a workaround. A fix. |
| 11:28.48 | derkling | ? |
| 11:28.57 | thiago | Bille: where does your Qt come from? |
| 11:29.02 | Bille | thiago: suse |
| 11:29.07 | derkling | :-D |
| 11:29.11 | thiago | same thing to you |
| 11:29.17 | thiago | patch 0048 fixes it |
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| 11:29.48 | derkling | thiago, are u speaking with me? |
| 11:29.58 | thiago | derkling: sorry, no |
| 11:30.02 | thiago | derkling: no workaround |
| 11:30.16 | thiago | the video is sent directly to the video card's buffer |
| 11:30.20 | thiago | you can't capture it |
| 11:30.23 | derkling | thiago, can y explain breifly to me why it work that way? |
| 11:30.31 | derkling | ok.. |
| 11:30.31 | thiago | derkling: because it's faster :) |
| 11:30.44 | thiago | patch 0048 for Bille & uzimonkey: http://webcvs.kde.org/qt-copy/patches/0048-qclipboard_hack_80072.patch?rev=1.3&view=log |
| 11:30.47 | derkling | I cant thak a screenshot of the video card memory? |
| 11:31.02 | thiago | explanation: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=80072 |
| 11:31.04 | thiago | derkling: no |
| 11:31.08 | slayerbob | sure you can |
| 11:31.16 | derkling | tks! |
| 11:31.23 | slayerbob | although you might have to write software for it first if noone else has thought of it |
| 11:31.26 | lauri | use imagemagick's import |
| 11:31.59 | derkling | lauri, for screenshot of the video card memory? |
| 11:32.00 | lauri | or mplayer and xine both can do it themselves (if you're using a gui, they might have been nice enough to give you a keybinding or menu entry for it) |
| 11:32.19 | lauri | for a screenshot of Xv overlay output in mplayer |
| 11:32.39 | derkling | no... I'm interested in whole desktop screenshot: including video output... |
| 11:32.59 | lauri | oh, that you can't so easiliy |
| 11:33.04 | thiago | lauri: it's blue here |
| 11:33.06 | Bille | thiago: suse has 0048 now, but i'm on an older install right now which doesn't have it. it will all workout fine in the end |
| 11:33.07 | lauri | so grab both and composite it in your favourite image editor |
| 11:33.08 | uzimonkey | thiago: hmm.. the pasting problem isn't happening right now, but the text edit is still "slow". Slow enough that whenever I hit a key, all of X stutters. |
| 11:33.21 | lauri | thiago: with import? |
| 11:33.21 | derkling | lauri, :-) |
| 11:33.23 | thiago | uzimonkey: hmm |
| 11:33.25 | thiago | lauri: yes |
| 11:33.29 | lauri | 'sec, I have a script for it (you have to give an option) |
| 11:33.32 | derkling | I'm trying... |
| 11:34.11 | thiago | uzimonkey: make sure you have the patch first |
| 11:34.19 | thiago | uzimonkey: we have to rule that one problem out first |
| 11:34.39 | derkling | thiago, import doesn't work... |
| 11:35.09 | lauri | and blech, I can't find it |
| 11:35.34 | lauri | it definitely works though (and I have a few hundred of 'em to prove it, my daughter has a "my favourite anime scenes" gallery ) |
| 11:35.57 | derkling | what option u use? |
| 11:36.05 | thiago | a full screen snapshot with the video not-full-screen? |
| 11:36.13 | derkling | yeah! |
| 11:36.41 | thiago | I know mplayer can take a snapshot of the movie itself |
| 11:37.09 | derkling | I doesn't need it: i need full desktop screenshot with video not ful screen... |
| 11:37.26 | thiago | well, just make mplayer dump the screen for you |
| 11:37.34 | sycofly | shit im pissed |
| 11:38.03 | slayerbob | sycofly, drink more bourbon |
| 11:38.13 | lauri | or just run it -vo x11 for the purposes of making screenshots |
| 11:38.21 | lauri | then you can grab it with the desktop too |
| 11:39.28 | derkling | lauri, -vo is an unrecognized option |
| 11:39.28 | thiago | lauri: ah, that worked now |
| 11:39.33 | thiago | derkling: mplayer? |
| 11:39.40 | derkling | import... |
| 11:39.47 | thiago | no, mplayer movie.avi -vo x11 |
| 11:39.47 | derkling | ok... misunderstanding... |
| 11:40.13 | lauri | now any screen grabber will work, ksnapshot, import |
| 11:40.28 | thiago | derkling: I can't find a key for mplayer snapshotting |
| 11:40.36 | thiago | but xine can do that, I'm sure |
| 11:40.50 | thiago | the quality will probably be better if you use it instead of capturing the screen |
| 11:40.51 | derkling | what option?!? |
| 11:41.10 | sycofly | slayerbob: .. knocked over a 1L & looking as some good stories in the 2L |
| 11:41.24 | sycofly | at* |
| 11:41.34 | thiago | derkling: the t key |
| 11:41.58 | derkling | OK... -vo x11 set the xserver as output devicc... |
| 11:42.00 | sycofly | bugger .. hi canllaith |
| 11:42.07 | lauri | I know |
| 11:42.15 | lauri | that's why I told you to do it :) |
| 11:42.43 | derkling | ther isn't an equivalent option in xine... mmmm... |
| 11:42.49 | derkling | i'm looking for... |
| 11:42.53 | thiago | derkling: in xine, just press the t key |
| 11:43.09 | derkling | t what do it?!? |
| 11:43.15 | lauri | xine can't grab the rest of the desktop though |
| 11:43.16 | thiago | do it and you'll see |
| 11:43.31 | thiago | lauri: he doesn't want the desktop. He wants the scene. |
| 11:43.32 | sycofly | omg .. im looking at a ubuntu CD and its giving me the s**** |
| 11:43.50 | derkling | thiago, mmmmmmmmmmm..... |
| 11:43.55 | sycofly | time to move on |
| 11:44.02 | derkling | I need a FULL desktop screenshot... |
| 11:44.24 | sredna | DROP DEAD QPOPUPMENU |
| 11:44.26 | derkling | thiago, I WAnt THE DESKTOP |
| 11:44.30 | thiago | derkling: but with the video screen not full-screen? |
| 11:44.37 | derkling | yeah! |
| 11:45.12 | derkling | in my desktop ther're a lot of applications running, one of wich is xine... i need a full screenshot |
| 11:45.23 | thiago | mplayer -vo x11 |
| 11:45.42 | thiago | xine can't play through X11, according to the output it gives me. Check it in your case: xine --help, option -V |
| 11:46.31 | derkling | my availables drivers are: aadxr3 dxr3 xv DirectFB aa xshm none sdl vidixfb vidix fb |
| 11:46.32 | sredna | slayerbob: Here is a fullscreen 32bit png for your 14.4 modem :p http://83.73.143.23:8002/kateperltoolkit.png |
| 11:48.05 | uzimonkey | sredna: um... woah, I had no clue Kate could do things like that :P |
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| 11:48.43 | sredna | uzimonkey: It's a plugin, and not finished, so some of the menu items are still vaporware |
| 11:48.57 | sredna | uzimonkey: But some of it acaully works |
| 11:49.06 | sredna | (check, run) |
| 11:49.23 | uzimonkey | (and what icons are those? :P) |
| 11:49.56 | sredna | Gartoon iirc |
| 11:50.21 | derkling | thiago, XShm - Standard X11 displaying with (optional) shared memory support. |
| 11:50.25 | sredna | Gartoon blue it says, and they are from www.kde-look.org - slightly kdeified |
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| 11:56.50 | sredna | *** LUNCH *** |
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| 12:06.37 | slayerbob | :P |
| 12:06.41 | canllaith | :P |
| 12:06.41 | marcusU | hi |
| 12:06.46 | canllaith | Heya marcusU |
| 12:07.35 | langenberg | Can anyone help me setting up Konqueror acting the same as mozilla with the forward and back buttons? |
| 12:07.48 | marcusU | What's the difference? |
| 12:08.15 | langenberg | In mozilla I can use the side buttons of my MX700 mouse. |
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| 12:08.57 | langenberg | Tho I use this command for it: xmodmap -e "pointer = 1 2 3 6 7 4 5" |
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| 12:13.04 | langenberg | That also enables my mousewheel. Unfortunately, Konqueror uses something else. |
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| 12:16.01 | canllaith | Ah, yeah I have the same mouse setup |
| 12:16.09 | canllaith | I have no idea if you can bind it to forward/back in konqi |
| 12:16.27 | *** topic/#kde by x-faktor -> KDE 3.4 released | KDE FAQ: http://docs.kde.org/en/HEAD/kdebase/faq/ - the answer to your question might already be here! | Please don't flood the channel, use a paste service: http://rafb.net/paste | If you've just upgraded to 3.4 using Konstruct and your KDE has strange colours and symbols everywhere, check your $QTDIR ! |
| 12:16.36 | x-faktor | sorry for that |
| 12:17.13 | canllaith | mmm lol ok |
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| 12:42.19 | Mu-Sly | Hi all |
| 12:42.36 | Mu-Sly | Does anyone know how to do find-replace in Kate where part of the find is end-of-line characters? I can't seem to get it to work even using regular expressions with "\n" and so on... any ideas? I guess I should bust out Awk or something, but I'm sure this is possible in Kate? |
| 12:45.54 | Bille | Mu-Sly: regexp search with $ on the end? |
| 12:45.59 | Mu-Sly | Actually, I'm just trying this in Quanta as well, but seems to be a general thing that can't be done with the KDE find-replace utility. |
| 12:46.17 | Mu-Sly | Doesn't seem to work because it takes $ to mean "the last character possible in the string" |
| 12:46.28 | Mu-Sly | I'm trying to replace multiple line breaks with single ones |
| 12:46.37 | Mu-Sly | and I don't think it's possible with the KDE find-replace tool |
| 12:46.47 | Mu-Sly | (the general one that seems to be used by nearly all KDE apps) |
| 12:46.50 | Bille | let me try |
| 12:46.55 | Mu-Sly | cheers |
| 12:47.29 | Mu-Sly | "Your regular expression is invalid due to something following a line end" |
| 12:49.46 | Bille | sredna: can you help us here? (\\n)+ ain't doing it for me... |
| 12:50.06 | sredna | Bille: Reading... |
| 12:50.34 | Mu-Sly | Seems I'm not the only one with this problem: |
| 12:50.35 | Mu-Sly | http://linuxfoo.org/-vp3804.html |
| 12:50.40 | sredna | Mu-Sly: Kate does not yet search cross line boundries |
| 12:50.41 | Mu-Sly | except that doesn't work for me either |
| 12:50.48 | Mu-Sly | ahh... that'll be why then |
| 12:50.52 | Mu-Sly | damn! :-S |
| 12:51.00 | sredna | Mu-Sly: You can find the end of a line, by looking for $ in a regex |
| 12:51.20 | Mu-Sly | any recommendations for KDE (or otherwise) app that does? I need to replace multiple end-of-lines, so I can't use $ |
| 12:51.42 | sredna | Mu-Sly: What exactly do you want to do? |
| 12:52.03 | sredna | Mu-Sly: S/\n+/\n/g maybe? |
| 12:52.14 | canllaith | sredna: that reminds me, there was a dylan highlighting/indenting scheme brucehoult was working on that required a patch to kate - have you had a look at that patch? |
| 12:52.52 | sredna | canllaith: Yes, and it did not get in, because it can probably be done in a more sane way |
| 12:53.02 | canllaith | ah ok then |
| 12:53.13 | sredna | canllaith: It only have to do with folding though iirc |
| 12:53.29 | sredna | canllaith: So you should be able to use the highlight without folding |
| 12:54.00 | canllaith | ah, ok |
| 12:54.16 | sredna | Mu-Sly: You can use the textfilter plugin for kate, just select all text and pass it trough sed |
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| 12:54.47 | devster | is it possible to switch pages/desktops on kde by goin to edge of window ? |
| 12:54.47 | sredna | canllaith: It had to do with finding a empty line |
| 12:54.58 | sredna | Hm, maybe it was a context shift |
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| 12:55.29 | sredna | devster: Yes, there is a setting for that somewhere - window behavior control panel iirc |
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| 12:55.56 | Mu-Sly | maybe I could use kfilereplace, but it seems to be borked at the moment (I recently switched from Gentoo ~x86 to x86, and kfilereplace doesn't want to play)... OK, I'm going to use sed instead, thanks sredna! |
| 12:56.06 | sredna | canllaith: But here is another teaser for you: http://83.73.143.23:8002/kateperltoolkit.png |
| 12:56.51 | sredna | Mu-Sly: Like perl, I believe you need to reset the input separator to replace newlines |
| 12:57.21 | devster | sredna - i only see an option to do it by usin the scroll button on the mouse |
| 12:57.43 | canllaith | oooooooh |
| 12:57.53 | Bille | anyone know OTTOTH if quanta has html-tidy built in or as a plugin? |
| 12:58.10 | sredna | devster: In the advanced tab, active window borders |
| 12:59.24 | sredna | canllaith: How about that? ;^) |
| 12:59.39 | devster | ah thx |
| 12:59.39 | canllaith | that looks cool :) |
| 12:59.51 | sredna | It will bee, I hope |
| 13:02.02 | Mu-Sly | ahh well, I'm outta here too... will keep trying to get this to work with sed but it's not playing ball yet |
| 13:02.05 | Mu-Sly | cya! |
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| 13:12.17 | eckhart | hi |
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| 13:12.26 | eckhart | with kde 3.4 i have the problem that at the login manager, there is always a debug output |
| 13:12.41 | eckhart | it wasn't there with kde 3.3.2 |
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| 13:19.39 | vanne | ello all, having a weird problem in 3.4: when going to kcontrol > date & time i see my current timezone us UTC. Selecting Europe/Brussels dus not change that to CET... any hints? |
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| 13:45.25 | mankeletor | anybody have kde3.4 instaled?? |
| 13:45.56 | langenberg | I just noticed that I can't make any rule to move e-mail to an imap directory. |
| 13:46.01 | langenberg | in Kmail ofcourse |
| 13:46.42 | mankeletor | i have a problem, check this: checking for xmkmf... not found |
| 13:46.42 | mankeletor | configure: error: xmkmf/imake not found. Please make sure it's in PATH! |
| 13:47.47 | mankeletor | i try install kde 3.4 with kontruct |
| 13:48.15 | mankeletor | any idea? |
| 13:48.44 | Bille | langenberg: yeah, unimplemented feature unfortunately. works with dimap though, but that may have a mail loss bug :( |
| 13:49.56 | langenberg | Bille: shouldn't be that much work to implement I think. |
| 13:51.00 | langenberg | Bille: I use it to automatically move e-mail's from mailinglists to a subdir. Why is this feature missing? |
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| 13:52.21 | Bille | langenberg: i'm afraid i don't know - it's been "coming soon" for a long time. ask don sanders about it |
| 13:52.38 | vanne | prob: korganizer on two boxes with identical timezone settings (utc in rc.conf, using same zonefile). both korganizers use the same remote ical file on a dav enabled dir but show events with one hour difference... |
| 13:52.42 | vanne | looks like one of them is showing times as they are in the ical file (zulu) |
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| 14:02.50 | goe | I am SO confused over Kmail's behaviour! If anybody could explain its logic, that would be very nice. I try to connect to a server where mail is delivered in ~/mail/ . While testing, I have a simple setup where most things go in ~/mail/inbox, while spam goes in ~/mail/spam. I use an IMAP connection. The spam directory shows up in kmail, and works nicely - however the inbox _ALWAYS_ shows up as empty! |
| 14:03.19 | goe | I've tried renaming it Inbox and INBOX, I've tried adding "mail" as the prefix directory - now I just don't know what to try |
| 14:03.34 | goe | (adding mail as the prefix directory makes spam not show up anymore, so I removed it again) |
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| 14:04.01 | vanne | sute that is not an imap problem? tested with another client? |
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| 14:04.23 | goe | vanne: trying with thunderbird soon |
| 14:05.01 | goe | vanne: Kmail sure is odd when it comes to IMAP though. The inbox dir is called "inbox", yet in the .imap subdir kmail creates on the server, it has "spam" and "INBOX" _with capital letters_ |
| 14:05.27 | goe | some googling has shown me that kmail has showed really retarted behaviour regarding the inbox over imap before |
| 14:05.36 | goe | *shown |
| 14:06.24 | vanne | well it's like the only kde major app i'm not using :) |
| 14:07.01 | vanne | no filtering on imap account no kmail |
| 14:07.21 | goe | yah, that is very annoying |
| 14:07.26 | goe | procmail is magic though :) |
| 14:07.27 | lauri | the inbox file is traditionally called INBOX on the server |
| 14:07.49 | goe | lauri: yeah, thought that might be it, but I tried copying my inbox to INBOX, just to check. No dice |
| 14:08.29 | lauri | you shouldn't need to |
| 14:08.37 | lauri | kmail says "hey, mister server, what's your default inbox, gimme it" |
| 14:08.57 | sarah03 | ... If I remember correctly, INBOX is a "magic" name on the server, as required by IMAP4. |
| 14:08.58 | vanne | goe what %tage of the lusers knows procmail syntax.... |
| 14:08.58 | lauri | server says "hey, my inbox is called 'blue-rhubarb'" |
| 14:09.06 | lauri | kmail says "why, thank you muchly" |
| 14:09.24 | goe | vanne: No, I know what you mean... but procmail is still magic :) |
| 14:09.32 | lauri | sarah03: yes, it's supposed to be INBOX, but there's at least a couple of servers that only vaguely adhere to any kind of rfc |
| 14:09.52 | goe | lauri: Hmmm... I wonder what the server says my inbox is called |
| 14:09.59 | lauri | so kmail just asks for it, and labels it inbox on this end |
| 14:10.01 | goe | lauri: you are making an interesting point though |
| 14:10.01 | sarah03 | lauri: Ever tried writing either side of an IMAP4 implementation? |
| 14:10.21 | vanne | goe: i mena that most users cannot create procmailrc files |
| 14:10.33 | lauri | sarah03: no, but I live with a kmail hacker, and hear alllllll about it |
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| 14:10.41 | sarah03 | It is, by far, the most picky textual protocol I've ever encountered. |
| 14:10.41 | lauri | sometimes I learn new words too |
| 14:10.43 | goe | vanne: And I agree that saying "just use procmail" is wrong - but it doesn't change the fact that procmail is beautiful magic :) |
| 14:10.49 | lauri | I don't think they're very repeatable |
| 14:11.06 | sarah03 | I don't think they need to be repeated, because I know the pain of dealing with IMAP. |
| 14:11.12 | vanne | goe: yeah yeah, you're right there. |
| 14:11.17 | goe | lauri: So hmm, is there any nice way I can see what the IMAP server tells kmail is the inbox dir? |
| 14:11.19 | lauri | sarah03: and we have a half dozen different imap servers installed here, and I can tell you, some of 'em do some really really weird stuff |
| 14:11.37 | vanne | but now it looks like i'll dump korganizer too... :/ |
| 14:11.48 | lauri | goe: you could telnet to it, ask it for HELP and hope like hell yours is one of the friendly ones that gives you something useful in return :) |
| 14:12.09 | goe | lauri: it supports SSL access only |
| 14:12.28 | goe | but I can always ask one of the admins :p |
| 14:12.49 | felesh | can konqueror open net smb? If i try to open smb:/// like in nautilus, konqueror crash |
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| 14:13.32 | lauri | felesh: it shouldn't crash, and what version do you have (and do you have libsmbclient) and have you tried smb:/somehost |
| 14:13.48 | vanne | lauri: a. you need a sieve enabled mailserver for that. |
| 14:13.55 | lauri | yes, you do |
| 14:14.04 | vanne | lauri: b. my mom will disagree with that |
| 14:14.23 | lauri | then send her here, I'll teach her :) |
| 14:14.24 | vanne | c. 20 gigs ov mail over 5 or 6 imap accounts... |
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| 14:15.31 | lauri | there is no way you need to have 20 Gb of mail available all the time - subscribe to the things you actually use |
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| 14:16.07 | vanne | heh |
| 14:16.36 | vanne | and there is no need to cache mail locally if you never read it offline |
| 14:16.46 | vanne | anyway |
| 14:17.01 | lauri | whatever, I'm giving you answers to enable you to continue to use an excellent application |
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| 14:17.15 | lauri | if you don't want to use it, don't, I don't care, but don't complain that it isn't possible, because it is |
| 14:17.21 | vanne | trying to find out why my korganizer is so fond of zulu time. |
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| 14:17.56 | vanne | no it's not, using normal imap |
| 14:18.11 | lauri | then don't use it |
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| 14:18.12 | lauri | next |
| 14:18.30 | vanne | i dont use it :) who said i'm using it? ;p |
| 14:18.35 | lauri | whining about it in here, will not help |
| 14:18.51 | vanne | i know |
| 14:19.26 | lauri | I'll be back in an hour, if you actually want your korganizer fixed |
| 14:19.27 | vanne | later |
| 14:19.34 | vanne | :) |
| 14:19.34 | lauri | if you're just going to whine about that one too, feel free to do that while I'm not here :) |
| 14:19.44 | vanne | hihi |
| 14:19.52 | vanne | go go |
| 14:20.01 | vanne | and be back in an hour ;p |
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| 14:37.26 | cb_ | I think KDE by default should not activate six time zones at install. |
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| 14:38.03 | vanne | you want 12? |
| 14:38.13 | cb_ | My time changed from Eastern time to Tokyo time and I thought my battery was dying! Yet KDE had changed the city |
| 14:38.34 | cb_ | vanne: I want 1 timezone |
| 14:38.50 | vanne | well i think tokyo is a nice city |
| 14:39.49 | mha | is ther an easy way to install a scanner ? |
| 14:40.27 | cb_ | sure it is, but can you iamgine the KDE time changing from 0400hours to 1900hours in an instant? |
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| 14:53.51 | langenberg | mmm, openoffice is looking _really_ ugly on KDE. |
| 14:54.16 | langenberg | hopefully OO.o 2 wil look better, but I doubt it. |
| 14:54.39 | annma | why is it ugly???? |
| 14:54.47 | langenberg | Because of GTk |
| 14:55.15 | sredna | Get a kdeified version :) |
| 14:55.26 | langenberg | and maybe because I emerged the binairy instead of compiled it for myself. |
| 14:55.39 | langenberg | sredna: kdeified version of OO.o ? |
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| 14:56.26 | sredna | http://kde.openoffice.org/ |
| 14:56.39 | Vincent1 | Is somebody French ? |
| 14:57.03 | MrPingouin | yep |
| 14:57.25 | langenberg | That's what Ark Linux uses, right? |
| 14:57.42 | MrPingouin | Vincent1: hm ? |
| 14:57.50 | Vincent1 | j'ai un problème avec KDE...tu peux m'aider MrPingouin ? |
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| 14:57.58 | MrPingouin | Vincent1: ba pose ta question et on verra bien ;) |
| 14:58.12 | Vincent1 | ça m'arrange que tu sois français, j'ai un peu la flemme de parler anglais là :( |
| 14:58.54 | MrPingouin | ba poooose ta question |
| 14:58.58 | MrPingouin | :) |
| 14:59.18 | Vincent1 | en fait, je viens d'installer la Debian (sarge)...lorsque je démarre sous Gnome, pas de problème mais lorsque je lance KDE, au chargement, il plante...et lorsque je regarde le log file, il y a un problème à cause de la souris je pense |
| 14:59.29 | Vincent1 | désolé, faut le temps que j'écrive ! |
| 14:59.33 | Vincent1 | ;) |
| 14:59.44 | MrPingouin | tu fais un login graphique ? |
| 14:59.49 | Vincent1 | oui |
| 14:59.58 | MrPingouin | kdm ? |
| 14:59.59 | Vincent1 | et en login graphique, la souris fonctionne bien |
| 15:00.40 | Vincent1 | kdm, c'est le type de login graphique non? (je débute sous Linux) |
| 15:00.40 | Vincent1 | je crois que c'est kdm oui |
| 15:01.02 | MrPingouin | ba en fait t'as 3 gros gestionnaires de session graphiques |
| 15:01.07 | MrPingouin | xdm le moche de x |
| 15:01.10 | langenberg | sredna: that doesn't look very active. I'll try koffice till that's available trough portage. |
| 15:01.11 | MrPingouin | gdm celui de gnome |
| 15:01.15 | MrPingouin | et kdm celui de kde |
| 15:01.23 | MrPingouin | si le style ressemble à ton kde alors c kdm ;) |
| 15:01.42 | Vincent1 | ça doit être xdm...il est un meu moche |
| 15:01.48 | MrPingouin | c simple |
| 15:01.52 | Vincent1 | et ressemble pas à kde |
| 15:01.53 | sredna | Koffice is faster and in general nice thatn OOo, but not quite as featurerich. |
| 15:01.55 | MrPingouin | est ce que y'a juste "login" et password ? |
| 15:02.22 | vanne | i believe a default sarge install goes for gdm |
| 15:02.23 | annma | there's #kde-fr for French people by the way |
| 15:02.25 | MrPingouin | si y'a plus que ça y'a de fortes chances que ce soit pas xdm |
| 15:02.25 | Vincent1 | il y a login...puis le password est sur la fenêtre qui suit...tu vois ce que je veux direz? |
| 15:02.40 | MrPingouin | Vincent1: okay on bouge sur #kde-fr |
| 15:02.45 | MrPingouin | vanne: okay thx |
| 15:03.01 | Vincent1 | ok |
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| 15:04.29 | vanne | MrPingouin: not sure though, but certainly not kdm |
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| 15:20.53 | CruX_ | hi |
| 15:21.20 | CruX_ | where can i find archiving web pages into .war files in konquerror in kde 3.4 ? |
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| 15:24.55 | langenberg | Can someone help me setting the side buttons of my MX700 to behave as back and forward buttons in Konqueror? |
| 15:29.36 | MrPingouin | mx700 ? |
| 15:29.37 | MrPingouin | what is that |
| 15:29.40 | MrPingouin | a keyboard ? |
| 15:30.00 | MrPingouin | langenberg: ? |
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| 15:31.35 | MrPingouin | langenberg: you have to "add" your keys using xset and xmodmap, then link them to a function using khotkeys and dcop calls I guess |
| 15:32.08 | MrPingouin | hmm no |
| 15:32.08 | marcusT | lauri: I reported the kded/kbuildsycoca issue we tried to troubleshoot yesterday as 102183 |
| 15:32.41 | MrPingouin | langenberg: the problem using dcop calls is that you have a konqueror-### for each session of konqueror running |
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| 15:34.53 | langenberg | MrPingouin: well they are now working correctly in mozilla. |
| 15:35.16 | langenberg | MX700 == logitech mouse |
| 15:35.26 | MrPingouin | hmm |
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| 15:36.56 | langenberg | It has two side buttons for back/forward browsing. |
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| 15:39.43 | koomi | aloha |
| 15:40.07 | Roey | langenberg: good luck getting all buttons to work simultaneously; X's model is broken. |
| 15:40.11 | Roey | langenberg: and this includes xorg. |
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| 15:40.20 | Roey | langenberg: and the people at #xorg are generally clueless. |
| 15:40.38 | langenberg | Roey: ...oh well.. yeah.. |
| 15:41.06 | Roey | langenberg: like, what the fuck? you can map SOME buttons, or you can map SOME OTHER buttons, but /not at the same time/ |
| 15:41.20 | Roey | langenberg: and I also have a mx-1000 mouse with more buttons even. |
| 15:41.27 | Roey | langenberg: two side-scrolling buttons. |
| 15:41.31 | Roey | langenberg: think that's supported in X? :) |
| 15:41.44 | koomi | can someone give me a hint on how to use kdevelop with objective-c? i get no syntax highlighting, cannot compile projects from within kdevelop ... |
| 15:42.27 | langenberg | Roey: The side buttons work the right way in mozilla. (xmodmap -e "pointer = 1 2 3 6 7 4 5") |
| 15:42.38 | Roey | right. |
| 15:42.40 | langenberg | Roey: that makes my scroll wheel and side buttons work. |
| 15:42.43 | Roey | what about the one at the top |
| 15:42.50 | Roey | what about the topmost button |
| 15:43.06 | Roey | what about on the mx1000 mouse, the left/right tilt buttons? |
| 15:43.14 | langenberg | Roey: they work the same as scroll buttons. |
| 15:43.20 | Roey | the tilt? |
| 15:43.35 | Roey | I don't recall seeing a fix to get those to work |
| 15:43.35 | langenberg | Roey: I've got an mx700. Don't know about those. |
| 15:43.39 | Roey | got it. |
| 15:43.43 | Roey | well I can tell ya, they don't work. |
| 15:43.45 | Roey | linux sucks. |
| 15:43.58 | Roey | windows, too. |
| 15:44.01 | Roey | but linux sucks. |
| 15:44.06 | langenberg | Roey: done blame the kernel ;) |
| 15:44.14 | Roey | langenberg: oh I blame the kernel for other things ;) |
| 15:44.15 | langenberg | don't* |
| 15:45.00 | Roey | langenberg: heirarchical filesystems, inability to reload itself in-place... |
| 15:45.14 | Roey | c'mon, it's 2005 already. |
| 15:45.17 | Roey | ;) |
| 15:45.32 | langenberg | There hasn't been a lot improvement in the past 10 years. |
| 15:45.39 | Roey | ah |
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| 15:45.45 | langenberg | But guys said the same thing 10 years ago. |
| 15:45.47 | Roey | maybe it's a sign that people are satisfied? |
| 15:45.50 | Roey | ok. |
| 15:46.03 | langenberg | Roey: define people ;) :P |
| 15:46.04 | Roey | langenberg: maybe that's a sign that the people who spoke big words ten years ago failed to take action? |
| 15:46.08 | Roey | langenberg: users |
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| 15:46.25 | Roey | langenberg: people who spoke big words: "talkers" |
| 15:47.37 | langenberg | Roey: yeah, computers just suck |
| 15:48.04 | Roey | really!! |
| 15:48.08 | langenberg | rather work on a Linux box then a windows one. |
| 15:48.11 | Roey | langenberg: why can't we do somethign like this today: |
| 15:48.17 | Roey | (lemme finish) |
| 15:48.26 | langenberg | take your time |
| 15:48.27 | Roey | $ls |
| 15:48.28 | Roey | ok |
| 15:48.29 | Roey | $ls |
| 15:48.48 | Roey | dog.jpg cat.jpg 20040523.diary |
| 15:49.01 | Roey | $cd jpg |
| 15:49.02 | Roey | $ls |
| 15:49.05 | Roey | dog.jpg cat.jpg |
| 15:49.11 | Roey | $cd diary |
| 15:49.13 | Roey | $ls |
| 15:49.17 | Roey | 20040523.diary |
| 15:49.24 | Roey | $cd diary/jpg |
| 15:49.27 | Roey | $ls |
| 15:49.31 | Roey | <nothing> |
| 15:49.43 | Roey | $list_tags |
| 15:49.47 | Roey | jpg diary |
| 15:49.53 | Roey | $ls --list-tags |
| 15:49.57 | Roey | dog.jpg: jpg |
| 15:49.58 | Roey | cat.jpg: jpg |
| 15:50.02 | Roey | 20040523.diary: diary |
| 15:50.08 | Roey | something like that? |
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| 15:50.36 | langenberg | Mostly can be done with * and ? tho. But I get your point. |
| 15:50.53 | langenberg | that's just and good old UNIX tool, those will never change. |
| 15:50.59 | Roey | ah |
| 15:51.07 | Roey | langenberg: see the thing is, |
| 15:51.10 | fubar1171 | i just compiled new kde. is there a way to identify what version I am using? |
| 15:51.23 | fubar1171 | cause i am not sure |
| 15:51.30 | Roey | langenberg: a heirarchical filesystem imposes the need for /ordered/ queries. |
| 15:51.44 | Roey | langenberg: x/y/z/file is not the same as /z/y/x/file is not the same as x/file/y/z |
| 15:52.17 | Roey | langenberg: what I'm trying to illustrate is a way around that |
| 15:52.42 | MrPingouin | fubar1171: launch kcontrol ? |
| 15:53.21 | langenberg | Roey: you mean quering the filesystem? |
| 15:53.37 | Roey | langenberg: right, like what 'ls' does in a conventional linux filesystem. |
| 15:53.41 | fubar1171 | no i am having trouble getting kde 3.4 to start |
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| 15:53.53 | MrPingouin | fubar1171: which distribution ? |
| 15:54.02 | elirips | hello. is there a way to tell kde which smpt server it should easy, depending on the selected idendity? |
| 15:54.02 | fubar1171 | mandrake 10.1 official |
| 15:54.23 | elirips | i mean "which smtp server it should use".. sorry. |
| 15:54.24 | langenberg | Roey: take a look at Beagle. |
| 15:54.26 | fubar1171 | finished compiling. took me a day. lol |
| 15:54.37 | Roey | langenberg: beagle, ok. |
| 15:54.48 | Roey | langenberg: is that another wrapper layer around the same old same old? |
| 15:54.54 | langenberg | http://nat.org/demos/ |
| 15:56.52 | Roey | ok |
| 15:57.19 | Roey | langenberg: but beagle won't work with existing tools |
| 15:57.26 | Roey | langenberg: apps must use beagle api |
| 15:57.36 | Roey | langenberg: and who is to say if beagle works outside gnome libs |
| 15:57.40 | langenberg | Roey: no, it's a patch in the kernel. |
| 15:57.47 | Roey | ah. |
| 15:57.56 | Roey | but apps must still be retooled to use it |
| 15:58.08 | langenberg | Roey: that's the problem with all stuff in Linux. |
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| 15:58.20 | Roey | langenberg: it's one of those things that make comptuers sucks |
| 15:58.21 | Roey | *suck |
| 15:58.30 | langenberg | Roey: GTK/Qt par example |
| 15:58.40 | vanne | hihi |
| 15:58.42 | langenberg | Why not creating one toolkit. |
| 15:58.45 | Roey | langenberg: but if you use the way I presented above, you don't have to retool any apps |
| 15:59.17 | langenberg | ..just make half the apps look ugly, whatever DE you choose. |
| 15:59.57 | langenberg | *sigh* sometime I just wished I knew as much of computer as my grandma. |
| 16:00.17 | Roey | =) |
| 16:00.18 | Roey | you'd have so much more time in life |
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| 16:01.35 | langenberg | ..or just using windows without complaining about monopoly positions and closed propretairy software. |
| 16:01.44 | StevenR | is there a list of the :/ things that are new in kde3.4? like trash:/ etc? |
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| 16:03.45 | alexissoft | hi |
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| 16:04.17 | langenberg | StevenR: changelog? |
| 16:04.42 | Roey | StevenR: it was changed to ://, btw |
| 16:04.50 | Roey | StevenR: to be consistent with URI notation |
| 16:05.11 | StevenR | Roey: nope, that doesn't work |
| 16:05.31 | StevenR | Roey: trash:/ gives me the trash, trash:// gives me / |
| 16:05.34 | Roey | ah |
| 16:05.36 | Roey | weird! |
| 16:05.48 | Roey | hmm... who wwas talking about it before.. |
| 16:05.53 | Roey | StevenR: ask thiago |
| 16:05.56 | Roey | thiago: hi |
| 16:06.07 | langenberg | :) |
| 16:07.00 | StevenR | ahh,....theres a list in kinfocenter |
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| 16:07.37 | langenberg | :-( now my fonts are messed |
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| 16:07.49 | Roey | hehe |
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| 16:09.10 | langenberg | mmm, i'll restart X and pray for clean crisp fonts ;) |
| 16:10.10 | AnotherData | hmm,can anyone help me out i get this error when I start Akregator and I can only start it as root |
| 16:10.14 | AnotherData | http://rafb.net/paste/results/GjOJ6I52.html |
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| 16:13.03 | AnotherData | i think it has something to d with arts tho im not sure |
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| 16:14.13 | affan | HI all, I just installed KDE 3.4 and changed some font setting using the Control Center. But it also changed the fonts for Firefox, Gaim, Xchat etc as well. They were much sharper before. Does this have to do with antialiasing? How can I fix this and get back my good fonts? thanks a lot. |
| 16:14.35 | Julianyus | hi |
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| 16:24.41 | m-e-t | i just upgaded kde with portage and when i start kdm, everything works. but after starting a kde session kdm is restarted somehow. |
| 16:24.51 | Cerulean | What port do I need to forward from my router to my computer to use kdrc over the internet? |
| 16:26.45 | langenberg | Cerulean: which protocol? |
| 16:27.04 | langenberg | Cerulean: 590X (x= display number) for vnc |
| 16:27.19 | Cerulean | langenberg: No idea. I wouldn't guess ssh unless that's done automagically |
| 16:27.22 | Cerulean | langenberg: Ah, thanks |
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| 16:28.23 | langenberg | brb |
| 16:28.29 | JakubS | where are kdm plugins stored? |
| 16:29.37 | Cerulean | JakubS: Plugins or themes? |
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| 16:30.34 | JakubS | greeter plugins |
| 16:30.51 | JakubS | kdm won't start because it cannot find 'classic' theme or plugin |
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| 16:32.38 | langenberg | JakubS: go to the KDE configuration centre |
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| 16:33.01 | langenberg | JakubS: go to the settings for the display manager and select another style than classic |
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| 16:34.19 | MZM | Hi all! Where I can get that nice Google search bar for Konqueror (3.4.0)? |
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| 16:34.51 | langenberg | MZM: it's enabled default? |
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| 16:35.21 | MZM | langenberg: where? |
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| 16:35.35 | langenberg | Just in konqueror. |
| 16:35.36 | JakubS | langenberg: fixed, debian's package didn't install kgreet_classic.so so i copied it from my cvs head build |
| 16:36.18 | MZM | langenberg: where I can enable it? It just gone and i cant find any config option for it. |
| 16:36.20 | langenberg | JakubS: alright, didn't knew about that. |
| 16:36.27 | langenberg | MZM: just a sec. |
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| 16:36.58 | m-e-t | hi.. i've got a problem with my updated kde. when i run kdm it's just fine, but when i try to start a session kdm crashes and restarts. referring to my xorg-logfile "client 2 was rejected by local host". does anyone know why? |
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| 16:38.14 | Ais | hello |
| 16:38.20 | Ais | I have got a problem with kde |
| 16:38.38 | langenberg | MZM: .. I don't know :O |
| 16:38.43 | Ais | everytime kde starts and the splash screen apear |
| 16:38.55 | Ais | the X server hang with 100% cpu usage and keyboard is dead |
| 16:39.05 | langenberg | MZM: just right click the toolbar and choose the options |
| 16:39.10 | Ais | I can only kill X Server with ssh |
| 16:39.26 | Ais | I dont have got these problems eg. with fluxbox |
| 16:39.38 | Ais | I tried to start kcontrol from fluxbox |
| 16:39.49 | Ais | but no luck, kcontrol kills the whole system |
| 16:40.39 | MZM | langenberg: there is no such thing as "search bar". I already started with looking for some "toolbar option" |
| 16:41.10 | langenberg | MZM: it looks like it's included in the URL bar somehow. |
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| 16:43.42 | m-e-t | does anyone have an idea? |
| 16:43.45 | apokryphos | MZM: this is a bit of a guess, but it might be included in the konq-plugins package |
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| 16:44.10 | NullAcht15 | Hi, how do I make arts use the ALSA device 0,1 so that the default device 0,0 will be free for other apps? |
| 16:44.15 | ankur_nayak | i want to remove the trash icon from my desktop...how do i do it?? it doesnt allow me to delete it ....even if i delet it from shell...it again reappears when i re-login?? |
| 16:44.53 | MZM | langenberg: tnx. I will look for that... |
| 16:45.10 | langenberg | MZM: it depends on the 'profile' you start. |
| 16:48.04 | MZM | langenberg: nope. I looked for it in all profiles. It is possible, that I realy have no konq-plugins package installed. |
| 16:48.10 | MZM | thats wired. |
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| 16:48.17 | apokryphos | Worth seeing is also the Google Suggest Bar: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=15163 |
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| 16:48.28 | langenberg | No, it can't be a plugin |
| 16:48.28 | apokryphos | Just noticed it; gonna try it out now. |
| 16:49.39 | olle | noobs |
| 16:50.15 | langenberg | olle: -1 (troll) |
| 16:51.03 | MZM | langenberg: why not a plugin? I see such ebuild in portage for konq-plugins. |
| 16:51.20 | olle | hej anser me |
| 16:51.27 | langenberg | MZM: What have you emerged? |
| 16:51.31 | langenberg | KDE? |
| 16:51.35 | MZM | yap |
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| 16:51.49 | langenberg | MZM: I've done the same. |
| 16:52.00 | langenberg | I didn't have any probs. |
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| 16:53.42 | apokryphos | Used to have that; realised I don't have it anymore, but haven't missed it. gg:somesearch is more convenient |
| 16:53.49 | apokryphos | (for me) |
| 16:55.17 | langenberg | Yeah, that's also an option. |
| 16:57.13 | MZM | equery doesnt show konq-plugins. emerge -du world will finish in some 2 days and then I will be able to check it out :) |
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| 17:00.17 | zambaroo | hi all. |
| 17:00.36 | zambaroo | im excited to tell you that ive uncovered a really random issue. |
| 17:01.02 | Roey | woohoo |
| 17:01.03 | Roey | do tell |
| 17:01.07 | zambaroo | yah |
| 17:01.08 | zambaroo | one sec |
| 17:01.41 | zambaroo | okay, so if you listen to a cd, plugging in the earphones INTO the drive itself and pushing the play button on the drive |
| 17:01.53 | zambaroo | and then you use kate |
| 17:02.00 | zambaroo | and you copy someting |
| 17:02.06 | zambaroo | that kills the cd. |
| 17:02.13 | zambaroo | how random is that?! |
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| 17:02.35 | zambaroo | the cdrom stops playing. |
| 17:03.38 | zambaroo | i know, ya'all are shoked and jawdropped at you keyboards staring at the screen, trying to wrap your minds around such a weird logic. |
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| 17:04.31 | MZM | zambaroo: its feature to protect code from crapy things what you write when listen to crapy aoudio cds ;) |
| 17:04.51 | zambaroo | MZM, looking at my code, i believe that. |
| 17:04.56 | zambaroo | oh wait |
| 17:05.40 | zambaroo | but yeah, suse-9.2, kde-3.3, kate-2.3 and a guns-n-roses cd. |
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| 17:07.51 | zambaroo | whats Konstruct |
| 17:07.57 | zambaroo | will it make me code better? |
| 17:08.19 | zambaroo | i really need a program that would improve my coding style since i suck at it. |
| 17:09.18 | zambaroo | aww its not.. |
| 17:09.28 | zambaroo | but props on a pretty website! |
| 17:09.43 | m-e-t | help! |
| 17:10.16 | nitro25 | followed konstruct set my paths edited my 01KDE to point to my ../3.4/bin/startkde when i restart X still booting into kde 3.2 |
| 17:10.16 | m-e-t | why does kdm crash everytime i start a session? that's random! |
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| 17:11.00 | m-e-t | i swear i won't upgrade until kde4 when it works! |
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| 17:13.06 | ubuntu | ke pasa tios?, por aqui probando el Kubuntu |
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| 17:14.54 | ubuntu | mola :-) taluego coleguis |
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| 17:17.24 | annma | m-e-t: you compiled kde3.4 from source? |
| 17:17.57 | m-e-t | annma: i used ebuilds |
| 17:18.21 | annma | oh god |
| 17:18.24 | m-e-t | emerge -va kde |
| 17:18.25 | m-e-t | why? |
| 17:18.31 | annma | then well, ask Gentoo |
| 17:18.46 | m-e-t | i can't ask gentoo about a kdm issue! |
| 17:18.50 | annma | m-e-t: I compile KDE from kde sources and there are no crashes whatsoever |
| 17:19.29 | m-e-t | annma: i had the same problem with konstruct and 3.4 rc1... |
| 17:19.35 | annma | no! |
| 17:19.41 | m-e-t | yes! |
| 17:19.46 | annma | did you see the bug database? |
| 17:20.01 | annma | is there a bug report? do you have a back trace? |
| 17:20.08 | MZM | m-e-t: cant it be X problem? |
| 17:21.13 | m-e-t | annma: i get no useful debug output from kdm itself |
| 17:21.27 | annma | m-e-t: and the bug database? |
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| 17:21.48 | m-e-t | i can't open any web page within a vt |
| 17:22.29 | annma | m-e-t: you're not very helpful then |
| 17:23.31 | m-e-t | i would take a look at it, but even fluxbox won't start |
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| 17:24.25 | Darien | hi all, quick question |
| 17:24.47 | Darien | I'm trying to burn a DVD image to a DVD, but it's not ISO format, it's HFS+ (Mac), and K3B won't let me do this |
| 17:25.15 | Darien | it might not be detecting the media in the drive either, but I can't tell which problem I might be having |
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| 17:26.22 | Darien | it gives me a red X on 'Not an iso9660 image' but then gives me a green checkmark by the MD5sum after it's calculated it, so I'm thinking maybe it just can't find the media |
| 17:26.56 | X-The | in konqueror if i click to configure, appears an empty window, any help? |
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| 17:29.49 | MZM | m-e-t: try to remove /tmp/.X0-lock file |
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| 17:32.51 | nitro25 | followed konstruct set my paths edited my 01KDE to point to my ../kde3.4/bin/startkde when i restart X still booting into kde 3.2 |
| 17:33.08 | nitro25 | any thoughts? |
| 17:33.41 | fubar73 | bleah |
| 17:33.50 | fubar73 | wish i knew |
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| 17:34.14 | fubar73 | anyone that can help mr nitro |
| 17:34.30 | fubar73 | ?? |
| 17:35.43 | amiroff | hello, how can I make ctrl+enter work in konqueror like in firefox? |
| 17:35.54 | nitro25 | ill give you a dollar!! |
| 17:36.09 | fubar73 | i'll buy that for a dollar |
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| 17:39.22 | travail101 | ok, I have a... rather odd question to be asking in #kde.... but I think someone here may actually know how all this qt/kde theming works |
| 17:39.38 | winterborne | hey everyone. I'm trying to compile KDE in gentoo, but i don't know what the "kdeenablefinal" use flag does... can someone help me out? |
| 17:39.47 | fubar73 | dude no one answers herwe |
| 17:39.49 | fubar73 | here |
| 17:40.12 | m-e-t | winterborne: ufed says that this will speed up the compilation with higher mem use |
| 17:40.14 | fubar73 | they are on vacation mang |
| 17:40.21 | winterborne | yeah... |
| 17:40.27 | travail101 | I want to get some cool QT themes, like plastik, or whatever, maybe even keramic, without installing KDE... I just want to QT part of the theme, not the window decorations or icon sets or what have you, just the widgets and what not |
| 17:40.30 | travail101 | any ideas? |
| 17:40.47 | winterborne | is that mem usage during compilation, or during actually running kde though |
| 17:41.48 | m-e-t | winterborne: compilation |
| 17:41.59 | winterborne | sure? |
| 17:42.49 | winterborne | well i guess there's only one way to find out eh |
| 17:43.00 | winterborne | thing is.. i've never used kde on this comp, so i won't be able to tell the difference lol |
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| 17:45.09 | NullAcht15 | How do I make artsd use the ALSA device 0,1 so that the default device 0,0 will be free for other apps? |
| 17:45.33 | travail101 | nobody knows how qt themes work? |
| 17:45.43 | phxguy | Anyone know how i would mount a usb flash drive???? |
| 17:46.07 | travail101 | is it a lot more complicated than GTK, where you just extract a theme into ~/.themes? |
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| 17:51.05 | alexissoft | hi |
| 17:51.16 | MZM | travail101: qtconfig |
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| 17:54.14 | linuzo | Does anyone know hwo to disable the mouse hover on kde 3.4? |
| 17:54.50 | linuzo | on the panel I'm talking about.. |
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| 17:57.40 | nitro25 | linuzo: right click on panel select configure panel |
| 17:57.57 | nitro25 | layout: appearance tab |
| 17:58.07 | nitro25 | uncheck enable icon mouseover effects |
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| 17:59.48 | linuzo | Thank You |
| 18:00.01 | linuzo | I thought it was there but I couldn't find it |
| 18:00.01 | linuzo | lol |
| 18:00.02 | nitro25 | welcome! |
| 18:00.10 | linuzo | lol |
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| 18:01.08 | elirips | anyone knows the name of a good news-reader for kde? |
| 18:01.15 | linuzo | pan |
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| 18:01.45 | travail101 | MZM, thanx, but I know how to select hm, I just don't know how to install new ones... |
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| 18:08.52 | PieD | I think I found a "bug" in konqueror |
| 18:09.05 | PieD | when I delete 19116 files in one folder |
| 18:09.08 | bd2 | i found a lot =) just too lazy to post :-) |
| 18:09.14 | PieD | it is slow ! (more than one minute frozen) |
| 18:09.29 | PieD | (there is always a lot of other files in that folder) |
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| 18:10.53 | sredna | Re |
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| 18:23.56 | sredna | Soooooo quiet in here |
| 18:24.12 | alexissoft | yes, everybody is going to gnome ;) |
| 18:24.20 | m-e-t | lol |
| 18:25.28 | annma | hi sredna |
| 18:25.32 | sredna | Hi annma :) |
| 18:25.33 | annma | will you go to Malaga? |
| 18:25.49 | sredna | annma: If you will I really have to :D |
| 18:26.01 | annma | lol |
| 18:26.07 | annma | no, I won't |
| 18:26.15 | sredna | Eew :( |
| 18:26.23 | annma | I'll be in France in July-August but gone for the conf |
| 18:26.36 | sredna | Arh, that is really too bad |
| 18:26.56 | PieD | for the conf ? in France ? |
| 18:27.04 | sredna | I would like to go to malaga, so I'll start considering how to fund that |
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| 18:27.18 | sredna | Hi PieD |
| 18:27.25 | PieD | hi sredna |
| 18:27.31 | annma | PieD: the conf is in Malaga |
| 18:27.46 | annma | I said I will be in France but not in time to go to Spain |
| 18:27.52 | annma | PieD: I live in Canada |
| 18:27.58 | PieD | annma: ok |
| 18:28.20 | travail101 | PieD, mayb youre filesystem is just slow at handling that many files... ya I know I'm a little late =P |
| 18:28.27 | PieD | the question is : where is Malaga (I don't understand any word of spanish) |
| 18:28.31 | PieD | travail101: no problem |
| 18:28.43 | Noldo | PieD: on the south coast of spain |
| 18:28.55 | Noldo | on Costa del Sol |
| 18:29.15 | PieD | is there any plan about a KDE conference in the North of France ? |
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| 18:29.47 | annma | PieD: probably not |
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| 18:30.28 | gribouille | hi |
| 18:30.33 | sredna | PieD: Malaga is in spain (hence the spanish flag on the logo) |
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| 18:30.51 | pulse00 | hi there |
| 18:30.57 | gribouille | how can I configure KDE to handle irc:/ urls with konversation ? |
| 18:31.00 | sredna | I'd like to have a kde conference in a scandinavian country other than norway |
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| 18:33.03 | pulse00 | hi've got a quite stupid problem: i accidently configured folders to open with a texteditor as standard action (in konqueror). now i can't acces subfolders by clicking them anymore. Does anyone perheps know how to reset the settings to default (The default settings button in the settings menu doesn't handle this)? |
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| 18:38.05 | sredna | pulse00: Go into the file associations control panel in the kde control center, navigate to 'inode/directory' and make konqueror the default choice |
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| 18:43.49 | njoodle | hi, I'm bored |
| 18:43.51 | njoodle | entertain me |
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| 18:45.42 | njoodle | come on |
| 18:45.55 | annma | write some doc |
| 18:46.03 | annma | close some bugs |
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| 18:46.05 | njoodle | I'm not literate |
| 18:46.08 | annma | find a gf |
| 18:46.09 | njoodle | and I'm lazy |
| 18:46.15 | njoodle | and I'm a kde developer |
| 18:46.15 | spiral | salut |
| 18:46.22 | annma | hi |
| 18:46.29 | njoodle | eyup me duck |
| 18:46.41 | annma | #kde-fr for French speaking, spiral |
| 18:46.57 | spiral | hi |
| 18:47.16 | spiral | anma, yeah, I know... But I can speak English :-) |
| 18:47.27 | annma | ah, ok |
| 18:47.31 | njoodle | spiral: are you sure? you're french :) |
| 18:47.57 | njaard | thanks annma |
| 18:47.57 | annma | but that's the last time! |
| 18:48.01 | bd2 | cool. kde developers online. :-) i have small question: does anybody have troubles copy/pasting from xterm to konqueror, throught select/then/mouse_middle_click? |
| 18:48.12 | njaard | annma: I /just/ cried for you too |
| 18:48.33 | annma | xterm is not a kde app - dismissed |
| 18:48.39 | bd2 | btw not only konqueror.. all KDE apps, that uses KDE clipboard |
| 18:48.43 | annma | use Konsole instead |
| 18:48.51 | njaard | I don't have xterm installed |
| 18:48.52 | njaard | heh |
| 18:48.54 | njaard | cool |
| 18:49.01 | bd2 | yeah. very funny :-) |
| 18:49.11 | bd2 | KDE splited from all X11 apps? |
| 18:49.13 | annma | well you address kde developers, no? |
| 18:49.31 | njaard | bd2: KDE implements the standard clipboard protocol |
| 18:49.32 | bd2 | KDE does not interact with all non-KDE apps anymore? |
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| 18:49.35 | njaard | bd2: maybe xterm doesn't |
| 18:49.35 | Doktoreas | hi guys |
| 18:49.54 | Doktoreas | anyone knows if i can see the message in knode not grouped? |
| 18:50.01 | annma | probably xterm does not |
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| 18:50.17 | bd2 | njaard, nope. xterm does. I select in xterm, i can paste in other xterm. But klipper does not see X11's clipboard (from time to time) |
| 18:50.29 | njaard | oh klipper's a pile of shit |
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| 18:51.59 | bd2 | konqueror too? from time to time (almost all time) I can't paste from xterm to any kde app. I must select things 5-10 times to make pasting in kde app |
| 18:52.16 | annma | bd2: make a bug report |
| 18:52.27 | bd2 | annma, ok, thanks |
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| 19:01.22 | sredna | WHAT THE HELL DID THEY DO TO TAR??? |
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| 19:03.00 | lippel_ | sredna: ? |
| 19:03.32 | njaard | sredna: put it on the road? |
| 19:03.44 | sredna | lippel_: I allways used to do 'tar -jc SRC -f ARCHIEVE' |
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| 19:04.02 | sredna | lippel_: Not that just makes konsole beep and outputs on STDOUT |
| 19:04.26 | sredna | (I suspect konsole beeps due to the binary mess it's asked to display) |
| 19:04.27 | lippel_ | use "tar cfj archive src " ;-) |
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| 19:04.48 | sredna | That is unlogical, and an undocumented change of behavior :( |
| 19:05.26 | LPLATES | Hi all :) --- Anyone here use Quanta? --- Need to know how to turn OFF Autocompletion ... it's buggering up my html by messing with the wrong tags. --- THANKS |
| 19:05.32 | lippel_ | eh, how can i convert a qstring to an bytearray? |
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| 19:05.52 | annma | LPLATES: did you look in Settings -> COnfigure Quanta? |
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| 19:07.39 | sredna | Will any of you kind people test if my package builds on your lovely systems? http://83.73.143.23:8003/autobookmarker-0.2.tar.bz2 |
| 19:07.44 | LPLATES | annma: Thought I had a few times.. must've missed seeing the checkbox - know I checked the Editor section numerous times... Thought it must've been in front of nose somewhere... THANKS :) |
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| 19:09.54 | sredna | lippel_: It kinda is one. |
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| 19:11.16 | lippel_ | sredna: yeah, but i need to save it to a binary blob and read it later... |
| 19:11.38 | apow | lippel_: check QByteArray class? |
| 19:11.42 | lippel_ | sredna: because my lovely co-devels haven't checked if their db supports unicode |
| 19:12.08 | sredna | QString::latin1()? |
| 19:12.13 | lippel_ | sredna: sadeagle suggested qdatastream, i think that's a way |
| 19:12.29 | sredna | Yes, that too, operator>> |
| 19:12.30 | lippel_ | that would break everything except latin1 i think ;-) |
| 19:12.35 | annma | QString::toUtf8() sredna |
| 19:12.39 | Doktoreas | anyone knows if there is a plugin for kontact to see you item on ebay? |
| 19:12.53 | annma | Doktoreas: probably not, no |
| 19:13.01 | annma | Doktoreas: look at kde-apps.org though |
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| 19:13.15 | annma | Doktoreas: if not, make a bug wish for it |
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| 19:13.46 | kow | hi all ...did anyone install kde 3.4 on fedora core 2? |
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| 19:15.26 | njaard | last.fm just gave me Eminem |
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| 19:15.29 | bd2 | http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=102201 - done |
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| 19:18.25 | Flendor | Hello. |
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| 19:18.44 | anisX | does karamba compatible with gnome people ? |
| 19:19.24 | Flendor | I think Gnome has GDesklets, similar to KAramba (never used it tho) |
| 19:20.21 | annma | anisX: no |
| 19:20.32 | annma | karamba is KDE I think |
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| 19:20.54 | anisX | annma: so gnome users cant use karamba at their desktop mom ? |
| 19:21.07 | annma | why would they? |
| 19:21.31 | annma | they have GDesklets as said Flendor, anisX |
| 19:21.34 | anisX | im not sure mom.. |
| 19:22.05 | anisX | annma: the GDesklets on their system is not function,that is why my friends take karamba instead of GDesklets |
| 19:22.15 | gribouille | hi, I've got a problem with kde 3.4 |
| 19:22.17 | bd2 | why not? does karamba uses kdesktop-specific features, or just draw in root window? |
| 19:22.24 | annma | anisX: and does karamba work? |
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| 19:22.43 | annma | karamba does not work well on may kde desktops |
| 19:23.04 | Doktoreas | annma: i am also searching for a way to control a video palyer via bemused |
| 19:23.04 | sredna | So, be sure to install withint april :o |
| 19:23.08 | anisX | annma: the karambam work..but the themes not transparent at the desktop |
| 19:23.09 | Doktoreas | anything heard about? |
| 19:23.30 | annma | Doktoreas: bemused? |
| 19:23.45 | annma | what video player? |
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| 19:24.44 | Doktoreas | annma: anyone |
| 19:25.07 | gribouille | I can't access my netscape bookmarks with konqueror |
| 19:28.00 | gribouille | anyone has an idea ? |
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| 19:28.57 | njaard | ok |
| 19:29.05 | njaard | maybe streaming does work in make-it-snoatun |
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| 19:31.46 | lippel_ | yay, str.utf8().data(), and QString::fromUtf8() did the job :-) |
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| 19:32.41 | burzum | hi, how can i change the height of the kde taskbar (kicker)? |
| 19:32.43 | burzum | i want it 22px height |
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| 19:34.14 | annma | minimum is 24 |
| 19:34.22 | annma | burzum: no 22 |
| 19:35.15 | burzum | ok, 24 is also acceptable, but i cant change it totaly free, right? |
| 19:35.31 | annma | pardon? |
| 19:35.37 | annma | you lost me here |
| 19:35.41 | alexissoft | http://alexis.robertlan.eu.org/tmp/dcom.png |
| 19:35.43 | alexissoft | :p |
| 19:36.04 | alexissoft | retouch free |
| 19:37.04 | annma | burzum: but I cant change it totaly free <-- what do you mean? |
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| 19:44.37 | bd2 | maybe he wants 22 px, not more not less? ;-) burzum, you can find kicker/panel config file in ~/.kde/share/config/ , and change height whatever you want. It was working for me on older kde (3.0?), I used it with my old 15" monitor. :-) |
| 19:46.27 | Flendor | Good evening/afternoon annma. How are you today? |
| 19:47.08 | annma | hi Flendor :) |
| 19:47.12 | annma | good! and you? |
| 19:47.29 | Flendor | I'm pretty fine :) |
| 19:47.32 | annma | :) |
| 19:47.50 | Flendor | The hard lessons of the week are already gone \o/, and I only have German and French lessons this week now.. |
| 19:48.31 | annma | :) |
| 19:48.38 | annma | très bien |
| 19:48.44 | annma | zehr gut |
| 19:48.52 | Flendor | :D |
| 19:49.16 | Flendor | I just love learning new languages (though, admittedly, neither French nor German is very "new" to me :) |
| 19:49.47 | PieD | I prefer learning languages like Python, PHP, C++... :p |
| 19:50.03 | Flendor | Hey salut PieD :) How's it going? |
| 19:50.12 | PieD | not very good |
| 19:50.20 | PieD | it is probably the worst week of the year ! |
| 19:50.35 | Flendor | Oh my, why is it so? |
| 19:50.38 | Flendor | Exams? |
| 19:50.48 | PieD | I think that all our teachers met |
| 19:51.02 | PieD | and they said : "we'll give them as much work as we can" |
| 19:51.23 | Flendor | :/ Bonne chance. |
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| 20:00.14 | Enforcer_JB | Hi everybody |
| 20:00.26 | annma | so why do you want to compile kmail? |
| 20:00.47 | Enforcer_JB | annma, with debug options. To help tracking down this bug (#89549) |
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| 20:01.19 | Enforcer_JB | otherwise backtraces don't seem to help much, it seems. |
| 20:01.28 | annma | ok |
| 20:01.38 | annma | so do you have kmail source? |
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| 20:01.57 | Enforcer_JB | not yet .. I was going to ask whether to use CVS, BRANCH or src.rpm |
| 20:02.06 | Enforcer_JB | s/CVS/CVS HEAD/ |
| 20:02.42 | Enforcer_JB | I have experience compiling stuff, I just don't know what you (= kmail devs) would prefer me to compile |
| 20:02.55 | annma | Enforcer_JB: moment I'm looking at the bug |
| 20:03.00 | wicky_ | Enforcer_JB: perhaps it's best to use CVS if you can. |
| 20:03.00 | Enforcer_JB | and whether it's possible to compile only kmail |
| 20:03.24 | wicky_ | Enforcer_JB: you can, but it depends on a couple of libraries from kdepim. |
| 20:04.36 | annma | Enforcer_JB: are you a C++ devel? |
| 20:04.54 | annma | ------- Additional Comment #12 From Till Adam 2005-01-24 21:17 ------- |
| 20:04.54 | annma | The fix was just backported to both branches. |
| 20:05.05 | annma | so well it seemed to have been fixed |
| 20:07.20 | Enforcer_JB | annma, it's not fixed in 3.4.0-final, though |
| 20:07.31 | Enforcer_JB | at least not in the 3.4.0 that SuSE packaged |
| 20:07.31 | annma | Enforcer_JB: are you sure? |
| 20:07.34 | annma | ah |
| 20:07.46 | annma | Enforcer_JB: first go to #kontact and ask there |
| 20:08.25 | Enforcer_JB | annma, the packages I have were compiled on 2005-03-10, so the fix should be there |
| 20:08.33 | annma | hmmm |
| 20:08.40 | annma | packages <mumble. |
| 20:08.45 | Enforcer_JB | that's why I kept submitting new info to the bug |
| 20:08.48 | annma | ask in #kontact |
| 20:08.49 | Enforcer_JB | :-) |
| 20:08.51 | Enforcer_JB | yup |
| 20:08.59 | annma | the kmail devels are in #kontact |
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| 20:13.21 | VirUZI | could somebody check this compile error: http://rafb.net/paste/results/0740gN54.html |
| 20:14.06 | slayerbob | argh - freenode now requires identd on some of its servers :( |
| 20:14.06 | VirUZI | I have compiled a new qt and installed in /opt/qt-3.3.4 symlinked to /opt/qt but when I try to compile a program I get a message saying it can't find the old libqt-mt.la from the previous installation which I have deleted |
| 20:14.14 | annma | ohhh |
| 20:14.25 | annma | where did you see to install qt? |
| 20:15.04 | VirUZI | what do you mean? |
| 20:15.30 | alindeman | slayerbob: No, it doesn't |
| 20:15.30 | annma | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:16.01 | slayerbob | alindeman, yes, it does - i have just spent the past 10 minutes looking for a server that did not dump me immediately because i have no identd |
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| 20:16.15 | alindeman | slayerbob: It checks for ident but doesn't require it |
| 20:16.23 | VirUZI | I didn't read it anywhere but I thought it would be a good idea to have the latest, bad idea? |
| 20:16.39 | alindeman | Sometimes it takes the check longer to time out because you DROP and not REJECT packets sent to port 113 |
| 20:16.42 | slayerbob | alindeman, well at least one server now does require it |
| 20:16.46 | annma | it's a good idea to have the latest |
| 20:16.54 | alindeman | slayerbob: No, seriously, they don't 8) |
| 20:16.57 | annma | however it's also a good idea to read the README |
| 20:17.02 | bd2 | VirUZI, some .la file points to an old qt. try grep -r '/opt/qt-3.3.2' / to find (it take some time) |
| 20:17.08 | annma | VirUZI: why install and symlink? |
| 20:17.14 | alindeman | slayerbob: If you're getting an error related to ident, feel free to /msg me it and I'll clarify |
| 20:17.38 | annma | VirUZI: one doesnot install qt and uses QTDIR var instead to point to the sources |
| 20:17.39 | slayerbob | alindeman, right so the reason that i cannot connect to irc.freenode.net no matter what i do because it drops me complaining about ident and yet i *can* connect to irc.au.freenode.net is what precisely ? |
| 20:17.51 | annma | VirUZI: read qt README |
| 20:17.53 | alindeman | slayerbob: Can you paste the errors to me in /msg ? |
| 20:18.42 | slayerbob | done :) |
| 20:18.43 | bd2 | all /usr/local/kde/lib/*.la files have hardcoded path to qt |
| 20:18.46 | VirUZI | annma: Not sure I understand what you mean, LFS recommend you install in /opt/qt-version and symlink /opt/qt to that dir |
| 20:18.54 | annma | LFS???? |
| 20:18.56 | annma | god |
| 20:19.04 | annma | VirUZI: they're wrong |
| 20:19.06 | slayerbob | lol |
| 20:19.18 | VirUZI | http://www.se.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/svn/x/lib.html#qt |
| 20:19.21 | annma | VirUZI: qt is not done to be symlinked |
| 20:19.40 | annma | you can perfectly have 10 qt versions on your system in fact |
| 20:19.46 | Flendor | Hey, I think I remember the name "lindeman".. |
| 20:19.53 | Flendor | Hello Bob, how are you? |
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| 20:20.44 | slayerbob | hiya Flendor |
| 20:20.50 | annma | VirUZI: well as you want but that's not the correct way |
| 20:21.26 | annma | why don't those distro follow qt instructios? |
| 20:21.40 | VirUZI | annma: ok, you're supposed to do it the other way mention on the page? |
| 20:21.51 | annma | nomake install is required |
| 20:21.58 | annma | NO make install is required |
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| 20:22.11 | annma | VirUZI: you configure qt with the options and you make |
| 20:22.32 | annma | VirUZI: then you set QTDIR for your system to find it, you set it to the sources dir |
| 20:22.49 | annma | I have qt4 and qt3.3.4 on my system and maybe more |
| 20:22.58 | VirUZI | annma: why not do make install? It can't hurt can it? |
| 20:23.04 | annma | yes it can |
| 20:23.10 | annma | see, it hurt you, no? |
| 20:23.36 | annma | especially the symlinks hurt |
| 20:23.54 | VirUZI | I'm not sure that's the reason it hurt me but I will try to do some reading |
| 20:23.59 | annma | VirUZI: I compile qt by hand for a few years |
| 20:24.10 | annma | the symlink is bad |
| 20:24.46 | annma | export QTDIR=/opt/qt-3.3.4 |
| 20:24.54 | annma | try recompling your prog now |
| 20:25.16 | annma | maybe you don't keep the sources that's why |
| 20:25.23 | annma | do you keep the sources? |
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| 20:25.33 | VirUZI | I have the sources |
| 20:25.45 | annma | so export QTDIR=/opt/qt-3.3.4 |
| 20:25.51 | VirUZI | I have that |
| 20:25.56 | annma | recompile your prog |
| 20:26.05 | annma | reconfigure it |
| 20:26.14 | annma | tell me what happens |
| 20:26.41 | annma | VirUZI: and you can put that env var in .bashrc so it'll be always set |
| 20:26.48 | bd2 | QTDIR don't help, if old qt moved from it's old path, IMHO. (kde's .la files hard-points to old qt dir). |
| 20:27.18 | VirUZI | bd2: do I need to recompile kde then or would some fancy sed fix it? |
| 20:27.31 | annma | bd2: pardon? |
| 20:27.51 | annma | I missed something then |
| 20:27.52 | bd2 | for example /usr/local/kde/lib/libkdeprint.la:dependency_libs='[....] /usr/local/qt/lib/libqt-mt.la [...] |
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| 20:28.11 | annma | if he updated qt he needs to recompile kde |
| 20:28.20 | annma | with the new qt |
| 20:29.03 | annma | what programme are you compiling VirUZI? |
| 20:29.17 | VirUZI | amarok |
| 20:29.24 | annma | youneed kdelibs |
| 20:29.30 | annma | do you have kdelibs? |
| 20:29.43 | VirUZI | yes, but not compiled with the new qt |
| 20:29.56 | annma | so you have to update kdelibs |
| 20:30.00 | bd2 | why to recompile whole kde? if new qt binary compatible? |
| 20:30.06 | annma | set QTDIR and recpnfigure and make kdelibs |
| 20:30.39 | annma | bd2: can you be more constructive here? |
| 20:30.48 | annma | instead of challenging all I say? |
| 20:30.56 | bd2 | what i say wrong? |
| 20:31.14 | annma | can you ask him what qt version he had? |
| 20:31.27 | annma | what kdelibs version he has? |
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| 20:32.26 | bd2 | ok. VirUZI, what qt versions was installed, and to what upgraded? |
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| 20:32.43 | VirUZI | 3.3.2 was installed 3.3.4 is the new one |
| 20:32.55 | bd2 | annma, is it ok, to not recompile whole kde? |
| 20:33.13 | annma | bd2: you know better than to ask me surely |
| 20:33.31 | bd2 | annma, i didn't say that. |
| 20:33.43 | bd2 | nor thinking |
| 20:34.02 | annma | VirUZI: so just reconfigure amarok |
| 20:34.38 | VirUZI | well then I get the error message I posted |
| 20:34.44 | bd2 | i just trying to tell, that compile-error VirUZI see is libtool dependency hell. and to fix it, he must a) compile new qt to _old_ path or b) fix all .la files |
| 20:34.56 | annma | VirUZI: is QTDIR set? |
| 20:35.03 | VirUZI | QTDIR is set |
| 20:35.06 | annma | as I said? |
| 20:35.11 | VirUZI | yeah |
| 20:35.12 | annma | post the config.log then |
| 20:35.38 | VirUZI | you need the whole thing? |
| 20:35.47 | annma | well probably |
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| 20:36.08 | annma | need to find what qt the configure script is looking for |
| 20:36.23 | annma | bd2: my point is that symlink makes the errors |
| 20:36.38 | annma | QTDIR pointed to qt sources ignores all those symlinks |
| 20:37.06 | annma | but I don't know LFS, I only know qt from tarballs and from qt README |
| 20:37.40 | bd2 | it's not about qt configure scripts, imho. take a look at compile-error. build system calls libtool to link against kde (and qt). libtool searches qt in old path (where old qt not found) |
| 20:37.42 | annma | from LFS:ln -s libqt-mt.so /usr/lib/libqt.so: This command allows configure scripts to find a working Qt installation. |
| 20:37.42 | VirUZI | if I check the kde .ld -files I see that they contain the old qt-dir like bd2 said |
| 20:37.57 | annma | VirUZI: so your QTDIR is not set |
| 20:38.09 | VirUZI | it bloody well is... |
| 20:38.28 | annma | bd2: I compile qt for years |
| 20:38.40 | annma | and kde |
| 20:39.03 | annma | I have different qt versions in my system |
| 20:39.10 | annma | surely I know what I say |
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| 20:39.30 | annma | the config.log, VirUZI ? |
| 20:39.48 | bd2 | ok. will see. contest! :-) |
| 20:39.53 | VirUZI | annma: sorry, please hold on... |
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| 20:40.41 | annma | in anycase symlinking is hell |
| 20:41.04 | annma | if the kdelibs are screwed he shold recompile with QTDIR set |
| 20:41.14 | annma | bd2: well are you a kde devel? |
| 20:41.19 | bd2 | nope |
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| 20:41.38 | annma | if you were you could not symlink qt like mad |
| 20:42.08 | annma | I'd like to look at QT README to see what they say |
| 20:42.13 | bd2 | maybe.. i don't like libtool. it make things complicated |
| 20:42.25 | annma | I just have qt-copy README and no make install nor symlink is mentionned |
| 20:42.33 | annma | whatever |
| 20:42.41 | annma | it's not about liking or not |
| 20:42.59 | bd2 | ufo:/usr/local/qt$ cat INSTALL | grep symli Rename qt-x11-free-3.3.4 to qt (or make a symlink): |
| 20:43.35 | annma | well what about several qt versions? |
| 20:43.47 | VirUZI | annma: http://rafb.net/paste/results/KcSbRQ40.html |
| 20:43.48 | annma | VirUZI: the config.log? |
| 20:43.55 | bd2 | i have tons of versions (not qt, yeah). |
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| 20:44.01 | [miles] | evening guys |
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| 20:44.23 | [miles] | can anyone tell me in 3.4 how to dissable the KDM kernel message log window under the login? |
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| 20:45.26 | adaran | hi everyone. i'm looking for the app "kompmgr" - if it's not included in my current packages, is there any way to compile and install only kompmgr? |
| 20:45.33 | VirUZI | bd2: if I were to fix the kde .la -files what would I write? |
| 20:46.27 | bd2 | VirUZI, I'm not recommend to do that. but sed can help you (man sed) |
| 20:46.44 | annma | so what do you recommend, bd2 ? |
| 20:47.34 | bd2 | annma, install new qt in old path? |
| 20:48.16 | bd2 | btw, take a look http://www.pastebin.com/261481 . did you have 3 parallel versions of glibc? :-) |
| 20:48.18 | annma | VirUZI: do whatever you want at that point, I won'trecommand anything |
| 20:48.27 | [miles] | anyone help me on this one ? |
| 20:48.32 | annma | bd2: what? |
| 20:49.02 | bd2 | annma, QTDIR didn't help with VirUZI's error? |
| 20:49.17 | annma | he should recompile kde |
| 20:49.24 | annma | I don't know how kde was built |
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| 20:49.59 | annma | besides LFS is about compiling |
| 20:50.16 | annma | but building something in these conditions is wrong |
| 20:50.22 | bd2 | seems like only two ways to workaround. VirUZI, can you symlink new qt in old qt path? |
| 20:50.34 | annma | bd2: you have qt sources? |
| 20:50.39 | VirUZI | bd2: gonna try |
| 20:50.47 | bd2 | annma, yes. |
| 20:51.03 | annma | read the README then please in qt sources |
| 20:51.07 | annma | god |
| 20:51.23 | annma | why didnt you tell before? |
| 20:51.38 | bd2 | annma, ufo:/usr/local/qt$ cat INSTALL | grep symli |
| 20:51.38 | bd2 | Rename qt-x11-free-3.3.4 to qt (or make a symlink): |
| 20:51.49 | bd2 | it's qt docs |
| 20:51.56 | annma | make install? |
| 20:52.07 | bd2 | ? |
| 20:52.12 | annma | we devels get a stripped version |
| 20:52.18 | annma | is make install noted? |
| 20:52.21 | VirUZI | bd2: getting loads of "undefined reference" |
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| 20:52.46 | annma | in qt doc, is make install written? |
| 20:52.53 | bd2 | VirUZI, pastebin please |
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| 20:54.15 | bd2 | annma, i guess yes. there is something about `make install' in INSTALL file |
| 20:54.23 | VirUZI | bd2: http://rafb.net/paste/results/bZctlm94.html |
| 20:54.59 | annma | no mention of installing and symlinking in my README |
| 20:55.47 | bd2 | annma, not README, but INSTALL :-) |
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| 20:56.58 | annma | anyway |
| 20:57.08 | annma | just do as you want |
| 20:57.49 | VirUZI | *recompiles kdelibs* |
| 20:57.52 | _ubuntu | Hi ? |
| 20:58.03 | Flendor | Hello ubuntu |
| 20:58.14 | Flendor | I don't know how to say "Hello" in any African language, sorry :/ |
| 20:58.30 | _ubuntu | Hi..Just trying out the ubuntu live cd |
| 20:58.43 | annma | is kde on it? |
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| 20:59.00 | bd2 | VirUZI, try make clean.. check /etc/ld.so.conf .. arr |
| 20:59.05 | _ubuntu | Latest version on Kunbuntu |
| 20:59.07 | Flendor | annma - "Memories" from Within Temptation is a very nice song :) |
| 20:59.08 | bd2 | run ldconfig |
| 20:59.15 | annma | Flendor: :) |
| 20:59.33 | mac2612 | hi, I'm using KDE 3.4, and I'd actually like to turn OFF xinerama support so I can spawn a mythtv session on my second display instead of kde..... |
| 20:59.41 | annma | The Silent Force |
| 20:59.49 | Flendor | Oh, so you have the Album? |
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| 20:59.58 | Flendor | I don't like "Stand My Ground" very much.. |
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| 21:00.07 | annma | I like it |
| 21:00.25 | Flendor | ..neither do I like "Caged" :/ Perhaps it's because I haven't looked at their lyrics yet. |
| 21:00.32 | njaard | Candles |
| 21:00.35 | njaard | that song is beautiful |
| 21:00.36 | Flendor | I would also like to recommend "Field of Innocence" by Evanescence.. |
| 21:00.38 | annma | :) |
| 21:00.48 | annma | Evanescence is overrated |
| 21:01.07 | njaard | they're forgotten :) |
| 21:01.08 | Flendor | ..whenever I hear that song I remember a girl from Virginia that I got to know online, she fell in love with a Scot whom I also know and now they're engaged :) |
| 21:01.18 | bd2 | VirUZI, you can also try export LIBRARY_PATH=/path/to/qt/lib |
| 21:01.22 | annma | Flendor: :) |
| 21:01.43 | njaard | all of you |
| 21:01.48 | annma | me? ME? |
| 21:01.49 | njaard | not one of you in particular |
| 21:01.52 | njaard | it's just a general hatred |
| 21:02.02 | njaard | last.fm is incredibly buggy |
| 21:02.07 | annma | me? |
| 21:02.18 | njaard | annma: not you in particular! |
| 21:02.24 | annma | but me in general |
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| 21:02.28 | annma | worse |
| 21:02.29 | Flendor | How can someone hate annma? :D |
| 21:02.43 | annma | I agree that me is general is a bit mean |
| 21:02.55 | annma | me in particular is nicer |
| 21:03.00 | Flendor | :D |
| 21:03.05 | annma | :P |
| 21:03.06 | Flendor | me has to go |
| 21:03.11 | Flendor | Good night everyone. |
| 21:03.15 | Flendor | Hey! Bye Anders :) |
| 21:03.15 | annma | woow |
| 21:03.20 | annma | bye Flendor |
| 21:03.26 | njaard | bye flendor, whomever you are |
| 21:03.33 | sredna | Sleep well, Flendor----- |
| 21:03.34 | njaard | oh.. a french person |
| 21:03.37 | annma | no |
| 21:03.39 | sredna | Hi njaard |
| 21:03.41 | njaard | hehe |
| 21:03.43 | annma | he wants to look french |
| 21:03.43 | njaard | hi anders |
| 21:05.20 | tsb | Okay; I've installed kamera, and it finds my cam. Which program retrieves the images? |
| 21:06.29 | tsb | I've looked around a bit in konq, can't find anything tho |
| 21:06.36 | tsb | figured it'd be under devices |
| 21:08.19 | bd2 | * annma hates LFS - lfs can give you a zoomed view of all build system. And than you pick up something to hate. I hate libtool. :-)) |
| 21:08.42 | annma | no need to have LFS |
| 21:08.53 | annma | one can build from soures without LFS |
| 21:08.54 | bd2 | to hate libtool? agree |
| 21:09.20 | annma | so what do you see to replace libtool? |
| 21:09.28 | njaard | nothing? |
| 21:09.41 | njaard | fix configure |
| 21:09.51 | njaard | have configure do what libtool does for each and every single file |
| 21:09.54 | njaard | .. just once |
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| 21:10.33 | bd2 | not to replace. but to fix... libtool hardwrite paths to libraries. it is make obsolete standart ways of finding libraries, like LIBRARY_PATH, or -L. |
| 21:10.35 | annma | njaard: well I know you have an idea but I was wondering wether bd2 has one |
| 21:11.13 | njaard | I don't have an idea |
| 21:11.18 | njaard | I'm just saying the FSF is stupid |
| 21:11.23 | bd2 | example is VirUZI. kde's .la files contains paths to qt library. it's not good. |
| 21:13.32 | bd2 | VirUZI moved some libraries, and all libtool-based KDE build system fails to compile anything. without libtool it's easy to say just -L/path/qt/lib . |
| 21:13.47 | tsb | okay just camera:/ did it |
| 21:14.21 | njaard | whoever wrote this is a retard |
| 21:14.26 | njaard | sorry, I shouldn't vent |
| 21:14.31 | njaard | ... here |
| 21:14.38 | njaard | and if I do, I should be more eloquent |
| 21:15.13 | bd2 | njaard, you hate libtool too? |
| 21:15.20 | njaard | not libtool |
| 21:15.27 | njaard | well |
| 21:15.28 | njaard | I hate libtool |
| 21:15.32 | annma | he hates everything in general |
| 21:15.33 | njaard | but that's not why I was complaining |
| 21:15.44 | njaard | annma: I don't hate you specifically |
| 21:15.49 | njaard | annma: in fact, I like you specifically |
| 21:15.50 | annma | and nothing in particulat |
| 21:15.56 | njaard | however, I hate you in general |
| 21:15.56 | annma | I'm no objetc |
| 21:16.14 | njaard | you sure? |
| 21:16.16 | annma | everything cannot be me |
| 21:16.19 | annma | I am |
| 21:16.29 | annma | ♂ |
| 21:16.34 | njaard | nice |
| 21:16.47 | njaard | ♪ (instrumental) |
| 21:16.52 | njaard | just to point it out ;) |
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| 21:17.05 | annma | ;) |
| 21:17.12 | annma | same tab |
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| 21:20.46 | Inssomniak | hey all, just upgraded to kde 3.4, and have a problem with kicker not showing my open windows |
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| 21:22.16 | bd2 | Inssomniak, did you try mv ~/.kde ~/.kde_old and then to startkde with fresh ~/.kde ? |
| 21:23.10 | Inssomniak | lemme try |
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| 21:23.29 | cartel_ | hey all |
| 21:23.37 | cartel_ | how can i make a program start on kde startup? |
| 21:23.46 | cartel_ | preferably not using session save and restore |
| 21:24.17 | bd2 | ln -s /path/to/program ~/.kde/Autostart/program ? |
| 21:24.56 | bd2 | <- ideas generator |
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| 21:28.49 | PieD | @+++++ |
| 21:28.55 | annma | bye! |
| 21:29.17 | |NEoPhilia| | HElp ! i need to know where the options for kppp for pppd ? |
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| 21:30.18 | |NEoPhilia| | Are ther any channel for networking,, ? |
| 21:30.35 | cIclops | how is a script or a java app added to the kde 3.2 desktop? |
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| 21:34.34 | jose | anyone know how to set up RTSP in konqueror? kaffeine loads up properly if entering rtsp directly, however clicking a CSPAN archive i get this |
| 21:34.35 | jose | khtml (part): WARNING: KHTMLPart::scheduleRedirection: Redirection from http://www.c-span.org/ to rtsp://video.c-span.org/project/iraq/iraq_wj032205_journal.rm?mode=compact REJECTED! |
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| 21:35.51 | cIclops | jose hi, it should work |
| 21:36.20 | cIclops | have you got the right url from the page? |
| 21:36.25 | jose | I hope so. clicking though doesn't load for some reason REJECTED |
| 21:36.42 | cIclops | i load c-span urls directly |
| 21:36.44 | jose | what do you mean? |
| 21:38.48 | cIclops | i think it's the way they hide the rtsp inside the javascript, have you got the kaffeine plugin? |
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| 21:39.12 | hallucinogen | hi |
| 21:39.20 | jose | kaffeine plugIn? |
| 21:39.49 | hallucinogen | i'm trying to install thin keramik gtk theme on gentoo |
| 21:39.57 | hallucinogen | and i get this error message: |
| 21:40.11 | hallucinogen | make[3]: *** No rule to make target `/usr/kde/3.4/lib/libkdecorations.la', needed by `kwin3_thinkeramik.la'. Stop. |
| 21:40.26 | hallucinogen | what am i doing wrong? |
| 21:40.52 | cIclops | jose ... yes there is one for mozilla, it tries to find the url and pass it to kaffeine |
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| 21:41.13 | cIclops | real files are a real pain |
| 21:41.41 | jose | no I don't have it showing up in the plugins page |
| 21:41.46 | jose | do you? |
| 21:42.02 | cIclops | only kaffeine-mozilla |
| 21:42.11 | Inssomniak | hi again, fixed my problems, just one question, for the transparent kicker, everything is see thru, except the actual tasks listed, they show as grey, how can I make them transparent as well? (like my old theme for kde 3.3 had them) ? |
| 21:44.44 | Ais | hello |
| 21:45.10 | |NEoPhilia| | Hi ! i need to multilink 2 connections ppp0 and ppp1, and pppd has "mp"-->OPTION. |
| 21:45.11 | |NEoPhilia| | Is the option enought or is there something more ? i use kppp so where does this option go ? |
| 21:45.11 | |NEoPhilia| | That is :: |
| 21:45.11 | |NEoPhilia| | ---InterNet 1----OPtion : mp ----> ppp1\ |
| 21:45.11 | |NEoPhilia| | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:45.15 | |NEoPhilia| | ---InterNet 2----Option : mp ----> Ppp0/ |
| 21:45.28 | Ais | in kde-3.3.2 kdm there was this Xsessions file that passed -nolisten tcp to the X server, it's strange, but I cant find it in kde-3.4 |
| 21:46.13 | jose | I installed the plugin and it shows up for kaffeine but the problem persists |
| 21:50.53 | jose | running KDE 3.4 |
| 21:51.14 | Inssomniak | kaffeine is a disaster |
| 21:51.56 | MrPingouin | what is kaffeine ? |
| 21:52.21 | Inssomniak | media player |
| 21:52.28 | Inssomniak | crashes a lot |
| 21:52.42 | annma | I don't see the point of kaffeine |
| 21:52.49 | annma | why isn't xine enough? |
| 21:52.49 | jose | I think this is a problem with Konqueror though. it doesn't matter which playe rI try to use |
| 21:53.14 | jose | something with KHTMLPart::scheduleRedirection |
| 21:53.17 | Inssomniak | xine dont work well either |
| 21:53.24 | Inssomniak | for playing .pls live streams |
| 21:54.03 | jose | kaffeine is xine + KDE interface, making it much better |
| 21:54.31 | MrPingouin | hmm, sounds sweet |
| 21:54.40 | jose | (except for the embedded player in konqueror repetitive crash problem that has been reported but never been fixed) |
| 21:54.43 | Inssomniak | I cant play virtually any live streams without them crashing |
| 21:54.48 | Inssomniak | xmms, xine, kaffeine, etc |
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| 21:55.30 | jose | which makes the embedded player useless |
| 21:55.59 | dwango | The embedded player doesn't give any play controls. |
| 21:56.04 | dwango | at least not that I've found |
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| 22:08.17 | BlackGuy | anyone know of a link explaining how to use konqueror to browse windows shares on the network? |
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| 22:11.45 | xiando | Great. |
| 22:11.58 | xiando | With dual-display, opening files with kate on the same window brings a new kate window |
| 22:12.04 | maxchee | will kde eventually dump arts and adopts gstreamer completely? |
| 22:13.51 | ponto | why gstreamer? it's crashing faster than one can spell "arts" |
| 22:14.12 | markey | fud |
| 22:14.13 | markey | :) |
| 22:14.26 | markey | latest gstreamer is pretty good |
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| 22:15.25 | cIclops | how is a script or a java app added to the kde 3.2 desktop? |
| 22:16.40 | maxchee | ponto: this doesn't exmplain why amarok/juk was so popular |
| 22:17.06 | ponto | maxchee: ? |
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| 22:17.19 | maxchee | ponto: amarok/juk uses gstreamer |
| 22:17.42 | ponto | maxchee: i've used both with arts. and right now i am using juk with arts |
| 22:18.00 | maxchee | the thing is, arts is much more limited in terms of format |
| 22:18.00 | jose | hmmmmmmm |
| 22:18.14 | maxchee | ponto: musepack? |
| 22:18.38 | ponto | maxchee: don't have any such files |
| 22:19.25 | maxchee | also, have anyone heard of anthing from the kde usability project? |
| 22:19.25 | jose | wonderful... I have to run konqueror as ROOT just to get javascript at C-SPAN working .... |
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| 22:20.21 | ponto | maxchee: gestreamer might be now better than arts. but my latest experiments two month ago were not very successful. |
| 22:20.59 | maxchee | ponto: that's true. gstreamer had received numerous bug fixes recently |
| 22:21.06 | Inssomniak | hi again, fixed my problems, just one question, for the transparent kicker, everything is see thru, except the actual tasks listed, they show as grey, how can I make them transparent as well? (like my old theme for kde 3.3 had them) ? |
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| 22:23.11 | ponto | maxchee: I've heard bad stories from other people, but I've used arts without problems since it appeared in kde |
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| 22:26.13 | maxchee | ponto: it just seems that arts is not being all that active anymore |
| 22:26.29 | ponto | maxchee: i've read about that |
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| 22:27.33 | manschu | hi |
| 22:27.45 | manschu | someone up for a game of kbattleships? :) |
| 22:28.47 | manschu | or kbackgammon? |
| 22:29.14 | manschu | oh |
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| 22:29.25 | manschu | kbackgammon has no network mode? |
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| 22:36.38 | MrGrim | heh, I just uninstalled kdegames |
| 22:36.47 | MrGrim | yesterday |
| 22:37.08 | MrGrim | actually more accurately I didn't reinstall it when I uninstalled and reinstalled kde |
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| 22:38.27 | choisy | hi there |
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| 22:46.39 | s3m10s | hi |
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| 22:48.51 | s3m10s | noone here? |
| 22:49.24 | kilrae | she was so obviously a bad guy |
| 22:49.43 | kilrae | why are nurses always evil? |
| 22:54.53 | slayerbob | it goes with the job |
| 22:55.07 | slayerbob | hiya s3m10s |
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| 22:56.15 | s3m10s | hey |
| 22:56.38 | s3m10s | I discovered why kde won't display jpg's or bmps on some compiles. |
| 22:57.12 | s3m10s | qt compiles the plugins in place and not for the DESTDIR. |
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| 22:59.26 | hellz_hunter | why does k3b burn dvd's SOOO slow? my dvd media and dvdburner is 8x capable, but k3b wont burn a dvd of data any faster than .60x |
| 23:04.38 | s3m10s | a dopo |
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| 23:08.12 | kilrae | why am i putting so much effort into my boot process? |
| 23:09.23 | kilrae | i try to never reboot my computer |
| 23:11.22 | MrGrim | kilrae: for the sake of asthetics and elegance :) |
| 23:11.42 | MrGrim | and so that for the painful times when you do reboot you don't have to spend 20 minutes getting back into business |
| 23:12.04 | kilrae | i'm just prettying it up |
| 23:12.10 | MrGrim | that's the problem with month+ uptimes... I always forget to make changes persist over a restart :P |
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| 23:12.20 | MrGrim | then I forget what I did |
| 23:12.36 | s3m10s | anyone get the kompmgr on/off applet to compile? |
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| 23:22.39 | kilrae | yay, when i restarted the icons in my taskbar got fixed to the new set |
| 23:23.06 | s3m10s | which is the new set? nuvola? |
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| 23:24.17 | kilrae | nah, black and white |
| 23:24.24 | s3m10s | wow |
| 23:24.53 | kilrae | Monochrome is the technical term :) |
| 23:25.07 | s3m10s | monochrome used to be green/white |
| 23:25.19 | s3m10s | in the IIc days, anyway |
| 23:25.39 | kilrae | no more |
| 23:26.04 | s3m10s | I think I still got a IIgs somewhere, wonder if I could compile 3.4 for that |
| 23:26.14 | kilrae | and i recall a switch on the monitor that let you switch between black and white and green black and green and white and so on |
| 23:26.23 | kilrae | those were the days |
| 23:26.37 | s3m10s | playing those text games and such. |
| 23:26.52 | s3m10s | dos 3.3 |
| 23:26.59 | kilrae | but i quite like black and white |
| 23:27.12 | kilrae | it really brings out whatever you're working on |
| 23:27.39 | s3m10s | wonder how kaquarium would be b/w |
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| 23:28.21 | Gerrit | What might cause Ksysguard's measurement of eth0 data being screwed up? |
| 23:29.32 | s3m10s | where does it get the data? /proc? |
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| 23:43.05 | SuperCatFrog | hi - is it possible to get the konqueror local file browser context menu items back from kde 3.3? i dont like the lack of them in kde 3.4 |
| 23:47.20 | kilrae | anybody know of any how-tos on creating kdm themes? |
| 23:48.20 | eisregen | SuperCatFrog: no ... but please pass it to me if you find out =/ |
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| 23:49.38 | SuperCatFrog | does anybody know? i have my old kde still installed, if i need a config file from there |
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| 23:53.15 | slayerbob | hiya canllaith |
| 23:53.17 | canllaith | :) |
| 23:55.33 | chavo | SuperCatFrog, you need to install kdeaddons |
| 23:55.50 | SuperCatFrog | ok thanks |
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| 23:57.07 | canllaith | slayerbob: is hal at q street? |
| 23:57.27 | slayerbob | hmmm ok that didn't work :( |
| 23:57.29 | slayerbob | nope he is at hanmer springs at the moment |
| 23:57.35 | canllaith | ah ok |
| 23:57.51 | SuperCatFrog | chavo - kdeaddons is already installed |
| 23:57.54 | slayerbob | i will probably bring him here next time i come back to christchurch though |
| 23:58.14 | canllaith | That's ok, I found the file I want on gateway |
