| 00:00.06 | thingy | its prob. a good list to follow if youre going to play with qt4 |
| 00:00.18 | qstrtemp | i dont have much time u know |
| 00:00.52 | thingy | qstrtemp: aah then you must sit and listen to whooshing sound the deadlines make when they go past... |
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| 00:01.31 | qstrtemp | i dont get it :P |
| 00:02.14 | thingy | never mind it was a stupid joke...anyway googling for your error hasnt brought up anything |
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| 00:04.13 | richmoore | your QTDIR is wrong, it's not pointing at the Qt 4 includes would be my guess |
| 00:06.01 | qstrtemp | i had a warning |
| 00:06.05 | qstrtemp | saying that QTDIR = compat |
| 00:06.08 | qstrtemp | or whatever |
| 00:06.14 | qstrtemp | when configure |
| 00:06.33 | qstrtemp | QTDIR=/usr/lib/qt-3.1 |
| 00:06.48 | qstrtemp | so |
| 00:06.51 | qstrtemp | i should reset it |
| 00:06.53 | qstrtemp | then configure |
| 00:06.54 | qstrtemp | ;) |
| 00:07.47 | qstrtemp | its not setenv |
| 00:07.52 | qstrtemp | whats the command again on redhat? |
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| 00:08.01 | richmoore | export |
| 00:08.03 | Goliath23 | hi |
| 00:08.13 | jcurry | 'lo Goliath23 |
| 00:08.21 | qstrtemp | thx |
| 00:08.21 | qstrtemp | ;) |
| 00:08.33 | qstrtemp | ok ill reconfigure |
| 00:09.06 | qstrtemp | :) |
| 00:09.09 | qstrtemp | is there a way |
| 00:09.13 | qstrtemp | to just gmake qt-core |
| 00:09.16 | Goliath23 | where can I find the next event with the possibility to get more into kde devloping and meet ppl.? http://events.kde.org/ seems slightly out of date. |
| 00:09.19 | qstrtemp | i dont want to build the entire thig |
| 00:09.42 | qstrtemp | goliath23 u mean the next convention |
| 00:09.47 | qstrtemp | i think its in september 2005 |
| 00:09.47 | richmoore | dunno |
| 00:09.53 | qstrtemp | around there |
| 00:10.02 | Goliath23 | qstrtemp: convention or smaller events, doesn't matter |
| 00:10.16 | qstrtemp | get the same warning |
| 00:10.16 | qstrtemp | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:10.17 | qstrtemp | Project WARNING: ***USE of COMPAT inside of QTDIR!** |
| 00:10.19 | Goliath23 | qstrtemp: do you know an url where to find infos about it? |
| 00:10.25 | qstrtemp | kde.org |
| 00:10.27 | qstrtemp | i think |
| 00:10.28 | qstrtemp | let me check |
| 00:10.33 | Goliath23 | yes, I searched that ;) |
| 00:10.44 | qstrtemp | there was kde-devel |
| 00:10.45 | qstrtemp | also |
| 00:10.53 | qstrtemp | someone asked there |
| 00:10.54 | qstrtemp | i think |
| 00:10.57 | qstrtemp | or was it |
| 00:11.12 | qstrtemp | http://dot.kde.org/1111445162/ |
| 00:11.18 | thingy | I don't get it...how do these people watching say the moon with a telescope take a picture of it. Do they like stick a camera on the view hole or is the light from the view hole somehow sent to a ccd. bah. I want one of those thingys so I can take pictures of stuff in the sky. and this is related to kde, since I'm currently looking for a desktop background picture for the kde desktop. :-) |
| 00:11.26 | qstrtemp | akademy is in sept |
| 00:12.05 | qstrtemp | lolllllll |
| 00:12.27 | qstrtemp | :P |
| 00:12.40 | Alethes | who needs google when you have #kde? :) |
| 00:12.48 | qstrtemp | LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL |
| 00:13.09 | qstrtemp | there might be some digital telescope |
| 00:13.14 | qstrtemp | where u can take picture |
| 00:13.38 | thingy | qstrtemp: no i didnt google...since I have a credit card which has a 7k limit on it and I really shouldnt be trused with one. I'm tempted to visit an online telescope shop and by stuff...clicky clicky and bang I'm in debt! |
| 00:13.54 | thingy | swap/by/buy |
| 00:14.24 | qstrtemp | thingy = a credit card is a debit card |
| 00:14.30 | qstrtemp | well you should use it like that |
| 00:14.31 | qstrtemp | ;) |
| 00:15.12 | qstrtemp | except that 1) u dont pay interac fees, 2) its secure 3) you are guaranteed not to pay for stolen pin+card |
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| 00:15.40 | qstrtemp | thingy u got a telescope? |
| 00:15.44 | thingy | I only keep the cc around since I may need to buy my freedom if I'm ever kidnapped in a foreign country. |
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| 00:16.10 | thingy | qstrtemp: no. Im in the uk. it would be pointless to buy one here because of the weather...cloudy all the time |
| 00:16.24 | Darkvater | gaaaah how do I turn off these annoying 'sticky keys' popups?? Is there nothing like 'disable permanently and do not ever bother me again' ? |
| 00:16.36 | thingy | Darkvater: windows xp? |
| 00:16.42 | qstrtemp | :P |
| 00:16.43 | Darkvater | kde 3.4 |
| 00:16.49 | qstrtemp | kcontrol? |
| 00:16.52 | canllaith | Yeah there is..... |
| 00:16.56 | Bille | thingy: press shift 5 times |
| 00:17.02 | Darkvater | all I can do is turn them on |
| 00:17.06 | thingy | Darkvater: oh is has features like stiky keys...doh i never came across it |
| 00:17.07 | canllaith | Kcontrol -> Regional & Accesibility, you can disable the hotkey |
| 00:17.33 | Darkvater | canllaith: ehm where? |
| 00:17.37 | thingy | in windows I come across that problem all the time due playing online games in a windowed mode |
| 00:18.00 | Darkvater | it only got 'sticky keys', 'slow keys', 'bounce keys' and I can turn them on and set timeout |
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| 00:18.28 | Knight_Lord | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:18.30 | canllaith | It's under Accessibility. You can turn on/off sticky and slow keys and disable the Activation guestures. |
| 00:18.48 | Darkvater | canllaith: I think I need to show you a screenshot for I am blind |
| 00:18.50 | qstrtemp | ok i reconfigured then |
| 00:18.50 | qstrtemp | ake -f Makefile.DebugPackage all |
| 00:18.50 | qstrtemp | make[1]: Entering directory `/root/q/qt-x11-opensource-4.0.0-b1/src/core' |
| 00:19.05 | qstrtemp | make -f Makefile.DebugPackage all |
| 00:19.05 | qstrtemp | make[1]: Entering directory `/root/q/qt-x11-opensource-4.0.0-b1/src/core' |
| 00:19.07 | canllaith | I have no interest in looking at a screenshot. If you don't have all of Kcontrol installed I suggest you install it :) |
| 00:19.12 | thingy | Knight_Lord: no im sorry, we wont be telling you this...to wean you off emacs. This is tough love! |
| 00:19.13 | qstrtemp | make[1]: *** No rule to make target `tools/qglobal.h', needed by `.obj/debug-shared/qglobal.o'. Stop. |
| 00:19.28 | Knight_Lord | thingy, i'm not gonna stop using emacs :-) |
| 00:19.41 | Alethes | anybody know how to pronounce the name "Che" as in Che Guevara? |
| 00:19.54 | Knight_Lord | thingy, this is just to test kdevelop |
| 00:19.56 | Darkvater | canllaith: http://darkvater.homeip.net/~tfarago/access.png |
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| 00:20.04 | Darkvater | so which one is it? |
| 00:20.11 | canllaith | heh and if I phonetically spell it in my Kiwi/Aussie accent this will make sense to you Alethes ? |
| 00:20.22 | Alethes | sure :) |
| 00:20.24 | Alethes | hehe |
| 00:20.29 | Alethes | I'm thinking Kay |
| 00:20.30 | canllaith | Darkvater: You're looking right at it, are you blind? |
| 00:20.40 | Darkvater | yes :( |
| 00:21.07 | Darkvater | they are all turned off no? But still if I press it for 8 secs or 5 times in a row it starts asking me if I wnat it on |
| 00:21.11 | canllaith | You do have them all unticked. They're disabled, and you don't have Activation Gestures enabled so without ticking the boxes they shouldn't come back. |
| 00:21.20 | canllaith | Well, try ticking the use gestures then unticking it again. |
| 00:21.41 | canllaith | Force it to write it out to the config file. |
| 00:21.41 | Dubhghaill | Alethes: i pronouce it shay |
| 00:21.56 | Darkvater | canllaith: that didn't help :( |
| 00:22.12 | Alethes | Dubhghaill: what is you native language? |
| 00:22.14 | Darkvater | where is this ocnfig file? I'll tear it out there myself |
| 00:22.18 | nordle | Just upgraded Slackware 10.1 from 3.3 to 3.4. It looks tidyer in some of the menus, and damn its much faster, taking time to get used to speed. But loading kontact and after being asked for wallet password I get "SASL authentication is not compiled into kio_pop3". I have googled, but not much luck, anyone else followed a similar path and resulted in anything similar? |
| 00:23.01 | canllaith | So you use SASL authentication methods on your Kmail? (I didn't actually think support for that was compiled into Kmail 3.3. to be honest) |
| 00:23.21 | Dubhghaill | Alethes: english, but i said that as I pronouce it the same as the irish name shay |
| 00:23.25 | canllaith | Not on Slack |
| 00:23.29 | Alethes | ah |
| 00:24.20 | Darkvater | canllaith: he, fixed it. I needed to untick the DISABLED button 'show a confirmation dialog whenever'.....it seems disabled on linux is not the same as disabled on windows :P |
| 00:24.44 | canllaith | No, it is. You have a bug. |
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| 00:25.04 | canllaith | Whether it's something wrong with the kcm itself or whether your configuration is in a muddle is the question. |
| 00:25.10 | canllaith | Anyway, glad it's fixed :) |
| 00:25.22 | Darkvater | yes me too.....very annoying :) |
| 00:25.26 | nordle | canllaith: Im afraid Im a bit, mmm, stupid is the only word I can think of. I cant say for sure, but Im running a stock(ish) system, so would not have changed anything....maybe I should try and disable it in the account, but I never knowingly set it up that way, its just worked ;) |
| 00:25.38 | canllaith | nordle: one thing I'd try |
| 00:25.42 | canllaith | is to create an entirely new user |
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| 00:25.50 | canllaith | and try to set up an email account for them |
| 00:25.59 | canllaith | Sometimes Kmail can be a little fragile about migrating your configuration over. |
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| 00:26.15 | canllaith | So try as new user, if you don 't get the error anymore you know it just isn't liking your old config. |
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| 00:27.08 | AnotherData | is there anyway i can make only one taskbar transparent if i have 2 of them? |
| 00:27.16 | nordle | canllatith: Yep, good advice, I was finger crossing it was all gonna be fine, but some deleting of ~/.kde etc is probably in order, new user testing here we go.... Thanks.. |
| 00:27.28 | canllaith | and *don't* delete anything in ~/.kde! :P |
| 00:27.38 | canllaith | we can prolly edit your kmailrc and remove offending lines so you don't have to lose too much config |
| 00:28.25 | Knight_Lord | Is there any way to configure kate so that hitting tab results in the same behaviour as in emacs (meaning ident to the correct position)? |
| 00:29.09 | nordle | ok, thanks. I'll take a backup of all ~/blah user config files, then I can fiddle and see if its simple. |
| 00:29.32 | scrooge | never run `cleanlinks`! |
| 00:29.34 | scrooge | its evil! |
| 00:30.15 | thingy | Knight_Lord: hey heres an article related to your q. but I cant see any answers in it yet http://goldenspud.com/webrog/archives/2005/01/24/why-i-use-emacs-for-writing-python/ |
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| 00:32.24 | thingy | Knight_Lord: ok i found something...search for the word emac in this url http://webcvs.kde.org/kdevelop/ChangeLog?r1=1.352.2.278.2.175&r2=1.352.2.278.2.175.4.12 |
| 00:33.25 | thingy | Knight_Lord: so looks like you need to enable autoindentation in kate |
| 00:34.05 | Knight_Lord | thingy, thing is i already have autoidentation on |
| 00:34.08 | thingy | Knight_Lord: er...maybe what you want is not the behaviour which is what you get with autoindentation enabled...in which case sorry |
| 00:34.16 | thingy | doh |
| 00:35.44 | Knight_Lord | what i get now with autoidentation on is that it indents the code correctly when i hit enter but then i have hits habit of pressing tab |
| 00:35.59 | Knight_Lord | this habit* |
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| 00:36.10 | Knight_Lord | and it inserts 2 extra characters (the extra tab) |
| 00:36.40 | Knight_Lord | in emacs even if you hit tab twice it doesn't matter it stays on the correct column |
| 00:36.46 | Knight_Lord | (it ignores the second tab) |
| 00:37.10 | thingy | aargh...thats why I hate emacs...its too smart for its own good :-) |
| 00:37.33 | Knight_Lord | http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/archive/9/2003/05/4/61849 |
| 00:37.38 | Knight_Lord | apparently i'm not alone |
| 00:38.30 | canllaith | Wow, I am just amazed that there really are people who think that a company wanting to charge for it's products so it can make a living is wrong. |
| 00:38.55 | thingy | damned capitalists scum! :-) |
| 00:39.01 | canllaith | and that there are people who think developers are arrogant and egotistical for not wanting to implement every single feature they want, for free. |
| 00:39.15 | thingy | those nerds! |
| 00:39.18 | canllaith | :P |
| 00:39.25 | canllaith | Bend them to our will I say, whips and chains!! |
| 00:39.45 | thingy | nay...I say we control them via a monopoly on caffiene based products |
| 00:39.50 | canllaith | LOL |
| 00:39.59 | Knight_Lord | It would also be nice if Kate/kdevelop had key binding "themes" |
| 00:40.11 | Knight_Lord | Like emacs and vi themes |
| 00:40.14 | qstrtemp | btw, those kate has a kpart widget for code editing? |
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| 00:41.47 | Knight_Lord | Anjuta suffers from the same tab problem |
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| 00:45.03 | thingy | Knight_Lord: search for "Emacs Style Keybindings" in http://www.kerneltraffic.org/kde/kde20020104_29.txt my fav. quote: "Depending on who you ask, Emacs key bindings are either heavenly or ludicrous." :-) |
| 00:45.17 | Knight_Lord | :-) |
| 00:45.54 | Knight_Lord | Now i'm getting another "strange" problem. I don't know how to copy and paste code. Is this by design? (as in CS prof saying you shall not copy paste code) |
| 00:46.23 | canllaith | mmm ? In Kate? It uses normal KDE copy/paste |
| 00:46.48 | Alethes | but don't tell my wife |
| 00:46.53 | canllaith | hahaha |
| 00:46.54 | Alethes | Kate just does things my wife never will |
| 00:47.25 | Knight_Lord | canllaith, that's CTRL+C and CTRL+V? |
| 00:47.40 | canllaith | Unless you have it bound to something else. Try the menu entries |
| 00:47.45 | Alethes | yeah, but it's lowercase ctrl-c and ctrl-v :) |
| 00:47.45 | canllaith | there is also standard X copy/paste |
| 00:47.46 | Knight_Lord | canllaith, i'm actually using kdevelop now not kate, but i was told they are somewhat similar |
| 00:47.53 | canllaith | Highlight to copy and middle click to paste |
| 00:48.04 | Knight_Lord | canllaith, yea i use both on emacs, 2 buffers |
| 00:48.17 | canllaith | I have no idea what the default behaviour of Kdevelop is |
| 00:48.33 | qstrtemp | :P |
| 00:48.54 | Alethes | quanta should be renamed to Klutter |
| 00:49.08 | Alethes | 'cause it's just kate with extra crap that gets in the way |
| 00:49.08 | Knight_Lord | X copy/paste works fine but i can't find any other way of copy paste |
| 00:49.36 | canllaith | Check your keybindings aren't different? |
| 00:49.47 | canllaith | Alethes: ugh, wysiwyg html editing should be banned. |
| 00:50.01 | canllaith | Most of the bad slow crap websites out there you can point the finger straight at DREAMWEAVER and FRONTPAGE |
| 00:50.02 | Alethes | amen sistah |
| 00:50.02 | canllaith | :P |
| 00:50.12 | Alethes | hehe |
| 00:50.25 | Knight_Lord | canllaith, copy and paste doesn't even show up in the keybindings, i was looking for them to change to C+K and C+Y :-/ |
| 00:50.38 | canllaith | mmm I"m fairly certain it does...... |
| 00:50.41 | chavo | Alethes, you can remove most of the clutter from quanta |
| 00:50.46 | qstrtemp | im reconfiguring/recompiling qt-x11-opensource-4.0.0-b2-snapshot-20050302 |
| 00:50.48 | Alethes | or I can just use Kate |
| 00:50.53 | Alethes | Kate likes to be used and abused |
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| 00:51.47 | Alethes | hmmm |
| 00:51.56 | Alethes | sounds like my wife }:D |
| 00:52.09 | canllaith | oh boy, I am so quoting you on that out of context one day she's reading over your shoulder |
| 00:52.12 | canllaith | and getting your ass kicked =p |
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| 00:52.20 | Alethes | hahaha |
| 00:52.40 | chavo | Alethes, Kate likes rum. |
| 00:52.49 | Alethes | oh yeah |
| 00:52.53 | Alethes | 'cause it's sweet and smooth |
| 00:52.57 | phxguy | hi... Does anybody know where i can downloads plugins for Konqueror?? specifically quicktime |
| 00:53.12 | Alethes | but she's too innocent to know that it's gonna knock her on her ass and make her do things that she'll forget the next day |
| 00:53.22 | Knight_Lord | But i have to say this kdevelop as some really nice things, like being able to open/hide scopes and marking some trivial syntax errors |
| 00:53.26 | uzimonkey | phxguy: I think the closest thing you'll get is the mplayer netscape plugin |
| 00:53.38 | phxguy | okay thanks |
| 00:54.02 | canllaith | Kate is quite reasonable for xml too, especially KDE docbook/kcfg stuff |
| 00:54.03 | chavo | phxguy, should work with kmplayer and w32 codecs installed |
| 00:54.14 | Alethes | when I used windows, Homesite set the standard for me doing web dev |
| 00:54.16 | thingy | phxguy: the VLC mozilla plugin can also play movs i think...and it may be based on mplayer am not sure! |
| 00:54.24 | phxguy | are there any other plugins for konq anywhere? |
| 00:54.47 | nakata | all the netscape ones. |
| 00:55.12 | nakata | i have kate, kpdf, and kaffeine plugins for konq at last look |
| 00:55.14 | Knight_Lord | has anyone here ported stuff to qt4? |
| 00:55.16 | nakata | and of course flash |
| 00:55.20 | phxguy | can I use firefox extensions in Konqueror??? |
| 00:55.26 | nakata | uh, no. |
| 00:55.28 | Knight_Lord | is it a lot of work? |
| 00:55.39 | MistPM | phxguy: yes you can |
| 00:55.45 | chavo | phxguy, which extension did you want to use. |
| 00:55.51 | nakata | MistPM: they are dhtml though |
| 00:56.00 | nakata | err, you know, the XUL crap |
| 00:56.07 | nakata | konq can't do XUL |
| 00:56.12 | phxguy | well Sage for one would be nice and then weather extension |
| 00:56.27 | Alethes | konq can't do XUL, which is why konq doesn't run like crap |
| 00:56.43 | qstrtemp | lollllll |
| 00:56.45 | chavo | yes thank the Lord. |
| 00:56.48 | MistPM | excuse me |
| 00:56.52 | nakata | i'm saying.. firefox extensions are xul |
| 00:56.53 | phxguy | forcastfox |
| 00:56.55 | MistPM | i dont' understod |
| 00:57.02 | nakata | aren't they? |
| 00:57.03 | chavo | phxguy, www.weather.com |
| 00:57.18 | qstrtemp | isnt there kaxul? |
| 00:57.24 | chavo | do you really need to see a constant weather forecast? |
| 00:57.31 | chavo | I never understood that. |
| 00:57.33 | Alethes | you can always use kweather |
| 00:57.39 | thingy | I use the window for the weather |
| 00:57.40 | phxguy | its nice to have in the status bar |
| 00:57.57 | MistPM | good night |
| 00:59.15 | chavo | I mena it's not like a hurricane is going to sneek up on you. |
| 00:59.23 | thingy | In the uk there is a reason why people quickly switch the channel when the news is finished...its so we can avoid listening to the weatherman saying tomorrow is gonna be another dull day and an odd shower or two and that we shouldnt bother hanging the clothes out to dry. bah |
| 00:59.34 | nakata | hehe |
| 00:59.52 | nakata | chavo: you'd be amazed. |
| 01:00.01 | Alethes | chavo: we need weather applets 'cause we're geeks and don't know what its like outside |
| 01:00.04 | chavo | nakata, I live in Florida |
| 01:00.04 | nakata | this one time, my pet elephant was just playing in the yard, when SUDDENLY... |
| 01:00.06 | phxguy | my weather is abit more eventful and less dreary than that of the uk.... I can see the sun |
| 01:00.12 | chavo | I've been outside |
| 01:00.14 | chavo | once |
| 01:00.15 | Alethes | not that it's gonna effect us anyway, since we're gonna stay inside anyway |
| 01:00.16 | Alethes | :) |
| 01:00.18 | thingy | pet elephant? |
| 01:00.20 | thingy | wth |
| 01:00.37 | chavo | There's a big fireball in the sky, it's real I saw it. |
| 01:00.42 | nakata | ever seen an elephant in a tornado? |
| 01:00.46 | nakata | it's pretty interesting |
| 01:00.46 | chavo | very scary. |
| 01:01.08 | thingy | nakata: hey explain WHY there was an elephant in your yard...then talk about the tornado |
| 01:01.09 | Knight_Lord | more problem with Kate. It does not copy the newline character :-/ |
| 01:01.26 | Alethes | I thought my pet skinny pig (hairless guinea pig) was strange |
| 01:01.29 | Knight_Lord | So when i paste it multiple times i have to keep on hiting enter |
| 01:01.32 | Alethes | but the elephant really tops that :) |
| 01:03.12 | thingy | ping |
| 01:04.14 | r00tsh3ll | kopete stops the tranfer when the conversation window is closed.. does anybody already fixed this bug here? its occuring with kopete 0.10... i tried the #kopete guys but i had no concret answers... |
| 01:08.14 | r00tsh3ll | http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92945 |
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| 01:22.03 | Knight_Lord | Kdevelop is all fine and well but i'll have to continue to use emacs as editor |
| 01:22.35 | canllaith | emacs is far more extensible |
| 01:23.32 | Knight_Lord | i'm just too used to emacs, if i can't do it in kdevelop the way i do in emacs it will be very difficult for me to change |
| 01:23.33 | Alethes | emacs isn't pretty |
| 01:23.35 | Alethes | :) |
| 01:23.40 | Knight_Lord | that's for sure |
| 01:23.42 | Alethes | and isn't that all that matters? :) |
| 01:23.55 | canllaith | No, but it's psgml mode is fantastically powerful |
| 01:23.59 | canllaith | awesome for docbook :D |
| 01:24.04 | Knight_Lord | :-) |
| 01:24.25 | Alethes | hasn't kde been ported to emacs yet? :D |
| 01:24.30 | r00tsh3ll | dreaming with a kemacs?! :-p |
| 01:24.36 | Knight_Lord | :-p |
| 01:24.59 | Alethes | they have that vi part right? |
| 01:25.08 | Alethes | why don't they do the same with emacs? |
| 01:25.21 | r00tsh3ll | why dont u? :) |
| 01:25.33 | Alethes | 'cause I r not smart |
| 01:26.10 | r00tsh3ll | soon or later it comes... |
| 01:26.16 | Alethes | and having emacs embedded in a kde app isn't worth my trouble :) |
| 01:26.24 | thingy | One day....emacs will evolve into sknet...and my great great great great great great great great grandson will be fighting for his life against the beast. And my point is...he will curse your emacsennen ppl for being so folly |
| 01:26.41 | thingy | swap/your/you |
| 01:27.01 | Alethes | s/thingy/null |
| 01:27.22 | thingy | s/alethes/i have logs of your showing affection towards kate |
| 01:27.28 | Alethes | hahaha |
| 01:27.51 | thingy | your wife will get the house man...dont push me |
| 01:27.55 | thingy | :-) |
| 01:27.55 | Alethes | hehe |
| 01:28.12 | Alethes | damn |
| 01:28.21 | Alethes | somebody didn't do the appropriate quality control on these doritos |
| 01:28.38 | Alethes | they're lacking the unwholesome flavor of fake nacho cheese |
| 01:28.48 | Alethes | they taste like plain ol' chips |
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| 01:32.03 | thingy | r00tsh3ll: btw I looked at the cvs for kopete and it the patch for your bug 92945 didnt get merged into the released version of kopete yet. no idea why...i don't understand how the merging of stuff is going by browsing the cvs. |
| 01:35.53 | thingy | hmm while looking for rootshells bug, to see if its been implemented in the kde 3.4.0 release is there an easier way of doing this other than looking at the cvs tree? i.e. do kde every list in a release documents that these bugs have been fixed? i looked for something like this on the official release announcement pages but didnt find anything |
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| 01:39.07 | eille-la_ | hi, I heard about a terry schiavo theme for kde... where could I download it? |
| 01:39.39 | Alethes | oO |
| 01:40.02 | nakata | what, to put your desktop into a coma? |
| 01:40.06 | nakata | microsoft.com |
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| 01:41.34 | ysm | what can put ark into a coma ? freecddb.org database ;p |
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| 01:43.17 | Dhraakellian | ubuntu has left KDE, eh? |
| 01:44.43 | oleczek | what is result of du -sh `kdebase build from sources`? |
| 01:45.29 | oleczek | kdelibs is 208M |
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| 01:50.25 | Alethes | ssh root@modemcable193.114-201-24.mc.videotron.ca rm -rf `locate qt` |
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| 01:53.21 | qstrtemp | very funny |
| 01:53.22 | qstrtemp | :P |
| 01:53.25 | Alethes | yes |
| 01:53.26 | Alethes | yes I am |
| 01:53.48 | qstrtemp | especially since i run winblows ;) |
| 01:53.52 | Alethes | :o |
| 01:54.04 | chrisag | that's talented... running kde on windows :-p |
| 01:54.08 | qstrtemp | qemu |
| 01:54.09 | qstrtemp | ;) |
| 01:54.10 | Alethes | haha |
| 01:54.14 | chrisag | lol |
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| 01:54.36 | Knight_Lord | Is there any deadline for the release of GPL Qt on windows? |
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| 01:54.44 | qstrtemp | not my fault, broodwar doesn't work on linux yet |
| 01:54.44 | membreya | has anyone here managed to successfully get klamav working? (the frontend for KDE with clamav) |
| 01:54.58 | chrisag | broodwar=? |
| 01:55.02 | qstrtemp | game |
| 01:55.03 | cevi | Knight_Lord: Qt4 will be released under GPL for windows, no 3.* |
| 01:55.07 | chrisag | yes membreya |
| 01:55.12 | qstrtemp | transgaming don't support battlenet |
| 01:55.22 | Knight_Lord | cevi, no problem i just want any kind of qt |
| 01:55.23 | chrisag | lucky* |
| 01:55.34 | chrisag | whoa wrong channel. |
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| 01:55.45 | membreya | chrisag: I'm getting an error message to say that it can't find ClamAV's libraries |
| 01:55.57 | Knight_Lord | cevi, but when qt4 gets launched will it be launched GPLed for windows at the same time? |
| 01:56.01 | Alethes | I wonder if a GPL'd qt on windows means that we'll have a kde shell on windows kinda like litestep |
| 01:56.05 | cevi | Knight_Lord: I think so |
| 01:56.39 | Knight_Lord | nice :-) |
| 01:57.13 | Knight_Lord | I'll be able to damp tcl/tk forever :-) |
| 01:57.14 | cevi | Knight_Lord: http://www.trolltech.com/developer/faqs/duallicense.html#q113 |
| 01:57.17 | Knight_Lord | dump |
| 01:57.27 | qstrtemp | wow |
| 01:57.28 | qstrtemp | # ./a.out |
| 01:57.28 | qstrtemp | [QString works perfectly!] |
| 01:57.37 | Knight_Lord | lol |
| 01:58.09 | qstrtemp | you can download |
| 01:58.11 | qstrtemp | it right now |
| 01:58.39 | qstrtemp | http://distfiles.gentoo.org/distfiles/qt-x11-opensource-4.0.0-b2-snapshot-20050302.tar.bz2 |
| 01:58.56 | qstrtemp | the b1 has compile errors :( |
| 01:59.03 | qstrtemp | also, the tarball don't work on solaris ;( |
| 01:59.12 | qstrtemp | u need GNU tar |
| 01:59.13 | Knight_Lord | :-( |
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| 01:59.24 | Knight_Lord | so no BSD too :-( |
| 01:59.32 | qstrtemp | but b2 compiles fine on redhat |
| 01:59.37 | Alethes | no gnu is good gnu |
| 01:59.37 | qstrtemp | well try it |
| 01:59.38 | qstrtemp | ;) |
| 01:59.57 | qstrtemp | Dont forget to `export QTDIR=...` |
| 02:00.06 | somekool | anyone played with XComposite and know how to make a QWidget transparent ? |
| 02:00.12 | qstrtemp | and cp lib files to /usr/lib after ./configure && gmake |
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| 02:00.46 | Knight_Lord | qstrtemp, i also have a linux box. I'm gonna try first on that one |
| 02:00.47 | Dhraakellian | hmm |
| 02:01.13 | qstrtemp | now lets see if QStringTemp class works |
| 02:01.13 | qstrtemp | ;) |
| 02:02.27 | cevi | somekool: afaik things like making single widgets transparent using the extensions only works on windows(not the OS :-)) so far, everything else would be quite a big hack, but it should be possible to do calling the x-functions yourself, check x.org for more information about it |
| 02:03.14 | Alethes | Dhraakellian: you can probably do that by editing something in the chrome dir |
| 02:03.48 | Alethes | maybe even userChrome.css, but I doubt it |
| 02:04.13 | cevi | somekool: try #xorg, somebody there should provide you further information |
| 02:04.49 | Knight_Lord | qstrtemp, does the new designer comes in the tarball? |
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| 02:06.31 | qstrtemp | let me check |
| 02:06.49 | qstrtemp | yes |
| 02:07.04 | qstrtemp | /designer |
| 02:07.04 | qstrtemp | ./designer/qdesigner_server.h |
| 02:07.13 | Knight_Lord | sweet :-) |
| 02:07.20 | qstrtemp | in tools/designer/src |
| 02:07.43 | Dhraakellian | Alethes, heh |
| 02:08.16 | Alethes | Dhraakellian: that's one of the selling points about the xul apps, actually |
| 02:08.50 | r00tsh3ll | eille-la_,kde-look.org? |
| 02:09.01 | Dhraakellian | yeah |
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| 02:14.36 | qstrtemp | works very well |
| 02:14.37 | qstrtemp | 9. With QStringTemp : 8000 - 25152 bytes OS time: |
| 02:14.38 | qstrtemp | 7.110000 seconds: 35740000 -> 42850000 = 7110000 |
| 02:14.38 | qstrtemp | 10. Without QStringTemp : 8000 - 25152 bytes OS time: |
| 02:14.38 | qstrtemp | 20.920000 seconds: 42850000 -> 63770000 = 20920000 :PASSED. -13810000 |
| 02:14.45 | qstrtemp | 3x faster ;) |
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| 02:28.50 | phxguy | When I click on an email link in a webpage, how can i amke it bring up mozilla-thunderbird instead of kmail.... |
| 02:29.26 | phxguy | I have already gone into file associations and changed it there to point to mmozilla-thunderbird |
| 02:29.40 | phxguy | but it still opens up kmail.... Can anyone help me on this |
| 02:32.12 | Tpo1 | umm... right click on the desktop... |
| 02:32.35 | Tpo1 | no no... where did I see this |
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| 02:33.11 | Mutant | hello world |
| 02:33.18 | Tpo1 | control-center |
| 02:33.44 | Mutant | i need some help |
| 02:34.20 | Mutant | cant access my root directory using Kde |
| 02:34.30 | Mutant | can u help Tpo1 |
| 02:34.36 | Tpo1 | umm |
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| 02:34.51 | Tpo1 | log in as root, then startx, then you can access the root directory |
| 02:35.06 | Alethes | oO |
| 02:35.10 | Buggaboo | hi guys, mouse just died and the shops are closed, how do I use my cursor without the mouse? |
| 02:35.15 | Alethes | what a clunky solution |
| 02:35.23 | Mutant | okay Tpo1 |
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| 02:35.33 | Tpo1 | ya |
| 02:35.39 | Tpo1 | I wouldn't, its not very secure |
| 02:35.42 | Alethes | Mutant: just go to the kmenu, select run then put in konqueror |
| 02:35.52 | Alethes | then run as a different user |
| 02:35.53 | ysm | CTRL+Shift+Num Lock, and your numeric keyboard |
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| 02:36.15 | Mutant | hey Tpo1 |
| 02:36.24 | Mutant | whats startx? |
| 02:36.25 | Buggaboo | thanks ysm |
| 02:36.40 | Buggaboo | startx: just what it sez: start x |
| 02:36.48 | Tpo1 | the startup script for the X server |
| 02:37.04 | Buggaboo | what's the question anyways? |
| 02:37.17 | Tpo1 | I dunno |
| 02:37.30 | Tpo1 | there was a pause, no one was answering questions, so I jumped in |
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| 02:37.38 | Tpo1 | <-- not a KDE expert |
| 02:37.51 | Mutant | i got a fatal error message |
| 02:38.44 | Tpo1 | you need to 'startx' from a pure console |
| 02:38.52 | Tpo1 | do what Alethes told you to do |
| 02:38.56 | Mutant | ok |
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| 02:39.17 | Alethes | everybody should do what Alethes tells them to do |
| 02:39.24 | Alethes | now, drink the kool-aid, people |
| 02:39.25 | Buggaboo | btw, now I have control of the cursor, how do I select things (ie left,middle,right mouse-button?) |
| 02:39.27 | Tpo1 | heh |
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| 02:39.50 | av[1] | Hello. I just upgraded to kde 3.4. I switched themes to the first dark colored theme. It changed over. I clicked on the menu to go back into the control panel to look up something else and my screen flashed, and I get an error that KDE kicker panel has crashed sig 11. |
| 02:40.15 | ysm | Buggaboo: 5 for click |
| 02:40.20 | av[1] | how can I revert to a default theme without logging back into X? because everytime I do, it crashes |
| 02:40.42 | ysm | Contextual key for right click ? |
| 02:42.38 | ysm | hum, - + ? |
| 02:42.58 | Mutant | still fatatl error message |
| 02:44.10 | Mutant | Tpo1 i still get that message even with a pure console |
| 02:44.24 | Tpo1 | do what Alethes said... do what Alethes said |
| 02:44.44 | Tpo1 | that wasn't a pure console anyhow... you need to log outta KDE to get to a pure console |
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| 02:44.49 | Alethes | Mutant: kmenu, run, put in konqueror, press the options button and run as a different user: root |
| 02:44.55 | Mutant | ok |
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| 02:45.22 | Oleg_ | hi |
| 02:45.24 | Mutant | after typying in startx what after that |
| 02:46.00 | Tpo1 | is this a joke? |
| 02:46.08 | Mutant | no |
| 02:46.17 | Alethes | Mutant: did you see what I typed? |
| 02:46.18 | Tpo1 | thats it, your done... |
| 02:46.21 | Mutant | i am relatively new to linux |
| 02:46.25 | Venson | av[1]: in .kde/share/config/kwinrc ....set PluginLib=kwin3_knifty....that might help |
| 02:46.33 | Alethes | Mutant: kmenu, run, put in konqueror, press the options button and run as a different user: root |
| 02:46.51 | Alethes | ignore everything else |
| 02:46.53 | Mutant | ok |
| 02:46.53 | Alethes | just do that |
| 02:47.10 | Alethes | but if you're new to linux, don't stay in root too much :) |
| 02:47.22 | qstrtemp | u shouldnt be root at all |
| 02:47.23 | qstrtemp | also sudo |
| 02:47.24 | qstrtemp | ;) |
| 02:47.39 | Alethes | qstrtemp: the way I suggested is pretty the same as using sudo |
| 02:47.51 | Alethes | it's just a nice gui with no editing of the sudoers file |
| 02:49.10 | qstrtemp | is there a .ui viewer for windows? |
| 02:49.45 | Alethes | is there no qtdesigner for windows? |
| 02:50.26 | Mutant | hey that was the coolest! |
| 02:50.32 | Mutant | thanks athlete |
| 02:50.49 | Alethes | why does everybody think my nick is Athlete? |
| 02:51.04 | Alethes | 'cause nothing could be more inaccurate regarding what I am |
| 02:51.05 | Alethes | heh |
| 02:51.10 | av[1] | Venson: k, tried that, still get a crash error that the KDE Panel (kicker) crashed |
| 02:51.13 | Mutant | ok itsAlethes |
| 02:51.19 | Tpo1 | hmm... I can type 'Al[tab]' or 'Athelete' |
| 02:51.21 | Mutant | Alethes |
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| 02:52.11 | Venson | av[1]: you might've wrecked your config perhaps? Try moving your .kde dir to "kde-backup" and let kde freshly create its configs? |
| 02:52.30 | av[1] | k |
| 02:52.43 | Tpo1 | even if I could spell athlete |
| 02:53.53 | Venson | i can spell internationalization |
| 02:53.56 | Venson | hehe >:) |
| 02:54.42 | Mutant | alethes. if i am now root then why is there a locked folder present? |
| 02:54.52 | Alethes | what folder is it? |
| 02:55.00 | Mutant | drakx |
| 02:55.08 | Alethes | don't know what that is |
| 02:55.09 | Alethes | heh |
| 02:55.22 | Mutant | ok |
| 02:55.25 | Alethes | I'm assuming its something you shouldn't play with |
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| 02:55.53 | Mutant | yeah it is. i think it as suppon to do with hardware config |
| 02:56.05 | av[1] | ok that worked Venson, thanks. |
| 02:56.35 | Venson | av[1]: slowly export back your configs from the older dir to the newer....things should work ok then |
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| 02:59.06 | coachz^ | How do i get the KDE control panel. It's not under my system tools |
| 03:00.01 | Venson | kcontrol |
| 03:00.12 | Mutant | thanks again Alethes and Tp01 |
| 03:00.13 | Venson | add it to your menu, if it's missing |
| 03:00.17 | Alethes | np |
| 03:00.32 | coachz^ | thanks Venson, so glad you're here |
| 03:00.38 | Venson | :) |
| 03:00.52 | coachz^ | these new images in KDE 3.4 backgrounds are stunning |
| 03:01.30 | Venson | <4 KDE 3.4 |
| 03:01.50 | coachz^ | whatchu mean? |
| 03:02.03 | Venson | you know... <4 > <3 |
| 03:02.20 | coachz^ | menu editor is now running |
| 03:02.25 | coachz^ | it won't run |
| 03:02.32 | Mutant | coachz where'd u get 3.4 |
| 03:02.50 | coachz^ | fedora core 4 test 1 |
| 03:03.10 | Mutant | ok. i am running mandrake 10.0 |
| 03:03.17 | coachz^ | kde 3.4.0-0.rc1.4 |
| 03:03.50 | Mutant | ok gonna check out the site |
| 03:04.28 | Mutant | i'm running 3.2 |
| 03:04.33 | coachz^ | heh, i can't even drag a shortcut onto the start button |
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| 03:05.48 | Mutant | okay |
| 03:05.58 | bd152916 | lo |
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| 03:06.06 | Mutant | so u say the images r stunning huh |
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| 03:06.31 | coachz^ | the backgrounds are very nice |
| 03:06.39 | Mutant | sweeet |
| 03:06.47 | Mutant | what else |
| 03:06.57 | coachz^ | wow, this dragon fly is great |
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| 03:07.36 | Mutant | what about office.org |
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| 03:07.42 | Tpo1 | I'm building a test 3.4 on a temp account |
| 03:07.52 | coachz^ | somebody got a digital camera for christmas ! |
| 03:07.53 | Tpo1 | I'll check it out |
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| 03:08.37 | coachz^ | raingutter is very stoned |
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| 03:09.13 | coachz^ | and riverstreet_rail is on acid |
| 03:09.29 | blueman | can i ask a question please |
| 03:09.38 | coachz^ | never ask to ask |
| 03:10.15 | blueman | i have a problem with rosegarden and muse |
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| 03:13.12 | coachz^ | In case anyone in KDE want's to make XP dialogs look stupid, do this: Put the Navigation buttons centered DIRECTLY over the file list. It will be So much quicker to move around. Also, make the look like VCR/Cassette controls. Everyone knows what they look like. |
| 03:13.33 | coachz^ | s/make the/make them |
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| 03:14.27 | qstrtemp | coachz wtf ur talking about :P |
| 03:14.41 | Tpo1 | in Konquerer? |
| 03:15.22 | coachz^ | hehe |
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| 03:15.55 | Ringwraith` | hahahaha |
| 03:15.56 | coachz^ | Right now i'm referring to the dialog box when picking a picture on Background |
| 03:16.45 | coachz^ | But i'm basically making an observation that ALL file dialog boxes would benefit from having the navigation controls directly over the top of the files and NOT to the left. |
| 03:17.29 | coachz^ | can you dig it? |
| 03:17.41 | slayerbob | not really |
| 03:17.59 | Ringwraith` | put some grits on it and ill dig it |
| 03:18.09 | coachz^ | dude, you're thinking longitudinally |
| 03:18.20 | coachz^ | think navigationally |
| 03:18.29 | coachz^ | think from inside the dialog box |
| 03:18.32 | coachz^ | think about it |
| 03:18.34 | Ringwraith` | no |
| 03:18.36 | coachz^ | you're in there |
| 03:18.39 | Ringwraith` | thats what dcop is for |
| 03:18.40 | coachz^ | looking for a file |
| 03:18.47 | coachz^ | and you wanna navigate |
| 03:19.05 | coachz^ | the controls are so much easier to move to directly above instead of to the left |
| 03:19.16 | Ringwraith` | if i want a file, i grab it from the filing case and insert it into my computer |
| 03:19.20 | coachz^ | what moron decided to put the controls on the left |
| 03:19.21 | Venson | lemme out!!! |
| 03:19.32 | coachz^ | rofl |
| 03:19.54 | Venson | uh...not appropriate here...PM? lol. |
| 03:19.59 | Ringwraith` | well this is too hot for me bbl |
| 03:20.04 | Tpo1 | heh |
| 03:20.05 | Venson | haha |
| 03:20.07 | coachz^ | hey, my menu editor doesn't work |
| 03:20.10 | Alethes | :o |
| 03:20.16 | coachz^ | what do i run kmenu or something |
| 03:20.18 | Venson | hey slayerbob |
| 03:20.20 | coachz^ | kde 3.4 |
| 03:20.21 | Alethes | this is #kde, not #bdsm |
| 03:20.30 | Tpo1 | lol |
| 03:20.30 | coachz^ | on fc4t1 |
| 03:20.34 | coachz^ | haha |
| 03:20.35 | Venson | Alethes: thought it was the same thing? |
| 03:20.51 | Ringwraith` | coachz^, rename the binary to thelittlemenueditorthatcould |
| 03:20.55 | Alethes | no, using twm would be bdsm |
| 03:20.55 | Venson | could be that the "d" in both of them confused me ;) |
| 03:20.57 | coachz^ | you gotta like pain to do linux |
| 03:21.10 | Alethes | indeed |
| 03:21.14 | Alethes | that's why I use fbsd ;) |
| 03:21.20 | coachz^ | kmenu doesn't find any file |
| 03:21.26 | coachz^ | what's the name of the file for kmenu |
| 03:21.38 | dipesh | using twm is bdsm? ok, I'll install it now :) |
| 03:21.40 | coachz^ | for menu edit rather |
| 03:21.42 | Ringwraith` | i dont know maybe you should man find |
| 03:21.42 | Venson | huh? kmenuedit? |
| 03:22.34 | coachz^ | Venson, that works ! |
| 03:22.34 | Venson | i know |
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| 03:23.15 | coachz^ | so how do i fix the menu edit icon to run menuedit? i'm right clicking on the redhat |
| 03:24.36 | coachz^ | the actual menu edit button is broken |
| 03:26.51 | nakata | hehe, kmenuedit... |
| 03:26.59 | coachz^ | hehe |
| 03:27.25 | coachz^ | are saying kmenuedit is in kmenuedit? |
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| 03:27.56 | Ringwraith` | yes and kde is outside of the inside of the kmenuedit and extends an infinite number of parrelle lattices |
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| 03:28.55 | coachz^ | Ringwraith`rofl |
| 03:28.58 | coachz^ | that was rich |
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| 03:30.22 | Venson | i'm quite disappointed with akregator |
| 03:30.35 | Venson | right now, that's the only sour thumb in kde |
| 03:30.39 | Dhraakellian | heh |
| 03:30.59 | Dhraakellian | akregator is what got me using reading RSS feeds, so I'll give it some credit |
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| 03:31.23 | coachz^ | gnight guys |
| 03:31.25 | coachz^ | thanks |
| 03:31.29 | Venson | i'm actually not saying it's bad...i'm saying it could be a lot better. however, last time i checked, the improvements were rejected |
| 03:31.30 | Tpo1 | night coachz^ |
| 03:31.35 | Tpo1 | is there a better RSS client? |
| 03:31.45 | Venson | Sage i use...works nice every time |
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| 03:32.05 | Venson | that's an extension to firefox however |
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| 03:33.09 | Ringwraith` | i had the fun task of kiosking a firefox browser |
| 03:33.12 | Tpo1 | will it work in mozilla? |
| 03:33.52 | Dhraakellian | okay |
| 03:34.00 | Dhraakellian | I just confirmed that it's not TBE's fault |
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| 03:47.25 | ysm | ha ha ! I knew that it was a bug ! |
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| 04:01.22 | Tpo1 | damn.. kate keeps crashing... tis pissing me off |
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| 04:01.36 | nmatrix9 | hello |
| 04:01.49 | nmatrix9 | how do I start the kde wizard again? |
| 04:02.41 | Dhraakellian | kpersonalizer? |
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| 04:09.37 | nmatrix9 | Dhraakellian: arrrgh sorry that was not what I was looking for I was looking for that kde option that allows you to configure how you copy and paste such as where to simply highlight what you want or to highlight AND bring right click to bring up context menu |
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| 04:10.29 | Dhraakellian | I'm not sure I follow you |
| 04:10.47 | Dhraakellian | kcontrol would be the kde control center, if that's what you're looking for |
| 04:11.55 | Dhraakellian | there's also klipper's (the kicker applet with the clipboard history) config, I suppose |
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| 04:17.28 | scrooge | aloha |
| 04:17.43 | redcliffe | hi - anone know what's happened to flashkard? |
| 04:17.46 | meng | apa khabar |
| 04:17.56 | redcliffe | i can't find it's homepage or download any more |
| 04:18.04 | meng | what on earth is that? |
| 04:18.13 | redcliffe | http://edu.kde.org/flashkard/index.php |
| 04:18.45 | Venson | apa kabar....hmm |
| 04:19.31 | meng | it's how are you in Malay |
| 04:19.40 | Venson | yeah, i know.... |
| 04:19.40 | meng | or Indonesian |
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| 04:19.54 | Venson | my nz'er friend taught me it :) |
| 04:19.59 | meng | ur from anywhere in SEA? |
| 04:20.10 | Venson | nope. USA |
| 04:20.28 | meng | here's a foul malay word |
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| 04:20.34 | meng | konek: penis |
| 04:20.49 | Venson | lol...now now..i don't wanna get a PhD in that language |
| 04:20.54 | Venson | just learnt a couple words is all ;) |
| 04:21.13 | bushwakko | my kde 3.4 doesn't show my usb disk in media:/ |
| 04:21.16 | bushwakko | dunno why |
| 04:21.18 | meng | imagine saying i want to konek to this channel |
| 04:21.22 | bushwakko | hal-device-manager seems ok |
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| 04:21.48 | Roey | hi |
| 04:21.55 | Roey | does kde 3.4 support passwordless wallets? |
| 04:22.05 | meng | it should |
| 04:22.15 | meng | kwallet? |
| 04:24.17 | meng | unless ur using a whacked up distro like Kubuntu, it should be there |
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| 04:25.35 | Roey | um |
| 04:25.43 | Roey | tum tum tummmmmm |
| 04:25.44 | Roey | yeah I am. |
| 04:26.00 | Roey | but no worries. |
| 04:26.03 | Roey | I'll recompile kde. |
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| 04:27.01 | Venson | Roey: howz kubuntu working out for you? care to make some comments? |
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| 04:28.43 | Roey | Venson: sure. |
| 04:28.49 | Roey | Venson: 1) it's missing passwordless kwallet. |
| 04:28.55 | Roey | Venson: 2) it's missing konq-plugins. |
| 04:29.25 | Roey | Venson: 3) honestly, the Desktop Background interface to the Get Hot New Stuff is not intuitive. |
| 04:29.27 | Venson | lol...doesn't sound like much fun. i need to recommend a livecd to a classmate |
| 04:29.37 | Roey | Venson: kanotix64.. |
| 04:29.42 | Roey | it's a straight debian/sid install |
| 04:29.57 | Venson | i'm thinking either Mepis or Knoppix |
| 04:30.10 | Venson | i've used both of them and they work nicely for livecds |
| 04:30.24 | Venson | or Suse...they all have kde |
| 04:30.46 | Dhraakellian | I usually carry mepis and knoppix around in my backpack |
| 04:31.05 | Dhraakellian | that reminds me: I need to burn copies of knoppix 3.7 and The OpenCD |
| 04:31.12 | scrooge | opencd? |
| 04:31.14 | scrooge | y not 3.8? |
| 04:31.28 | Dhraakellian | I haven't seen any downloads for 3.8 |
| 04:31.34 | scrooge | :O |
| 04:31.36 | scrooge | serious? |
| 04:31.42 | scrooge | theres been torrents out since february |
| 04:31.47 | scrooge | i had it once |
| 04:31.51 | scrooge | forgot wat i did with it |
| 04:34.12 | scrooge | http://stacktrace.org/index_html/20050313-Knoppix3.8CeBitTorrent/KNOPPIX_V3.8-2005-02-28-CeBIT_Edition.iso.torrent |
| 04:34.23 | scrooge | i'll see if the torrent is working ^_^ |
| 04:35.02 | scrooge | ahh thats the german version |
| 04:35.08 | scrooge | says to pass lang=en as boot param |
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| 04:35.30 | Dhraakellian | heh |
| 04:37.01 | Dhraakellian | http://theopencd.sunsite.dk/ |
| 04:37.14 | meng | any where for Knoppix 3.8 http downloads |
| 04:37.16 | meng | ? |
| 04:37.26 | Dhraakellian | or english torrents |
| 04:38.05 | Roey | *there have been torrents out since February |
| 04:38.13 | meng | i can't use bittorrent from where i live |
| 04:38.17 | scrooge | y not? |
| 04:38.21 | scrooge | Roey, yes |
| 04:38.29 | scrooge | the date is feb 28th ;) |
| 04:38.31 | moret | hi |
| 04:38.39 | meng | stupid apartment firewall |
| 04:38.55 | Roey | scrooge: oh just being annoying with the grammar: "there have been" instead of "theres been[sic]" |
| 04:39.00 | Roey | hehe |
| 04:39.01 | Roey | :) |
| 04:39.08 | scrooge | ohhhhh |
| 04:39.10 | scrooge | ok :P |
| 04:39.30 | Dhraakellian | http://www.knoppix.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=78752&sid=e249910705d38d741233fb7dbe419e6d#78752 |
| 04:39.32 | meng | any http download links? |
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| 04:40.28 | Dhraakellian | Oh noes!!!1 |
| 04:40.36 | canllaith | : |
| 04:40.37 | canllaith | :| |
| 04:40.44 | canllaith | Who the hell are you, and what have you done with Dhraakellian |
| 04:40.56 | meng | ? |
| 04:41.01 | scrooge | haha |
| 04:41.31 | Dhraakellian | !;) |
| 04:41.42 | canllaith | :o |
| 04:41.43 | canllaith | :) |
| 04:41.59 | Venson | hey canllaith ...how goes? Did they figure out the webcam thingy? |
| 04:42.10 | canllaith | hah not yet. Next week. |
| 04:42.28 | Venson | oh :-| |
| 04:43.06 | meng | still waiting for kubuntu to update itself, hoping for some massive changes |
| 04:43.18 | canllaith | lol just ask. If I know I'll answer. |
| 04:43.38 | scrooge | i have slack-current iso's dated march 21st. i wanna install kde-cvs. i have the guide for compiling from scratch... |
| 04:43.42 | scrooge | my question is |
| 04:43.54 | scrooge | should i install kde form the cd's to handle dependancies? |
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| 04:44.21 | llama32 | hello pplz |
| 04:44.21 | canllaith | No need |
| 04:44.27 | canllaith | Install qt from the cd |
| 04:44.37 | canllaith | and libidn from the l/ group if you don't already have it |
| 04:44.47 | llama32 | anyone had troubles with kppp? i cant seem to get it working for me (it just dials then says line busy or something) |
| 04:44.57 | canllaith | apart from that if you have a sane slackware install (basically all the libs from cd1 at least even if you don't use anything from cd2) |
| 04:45.02 | canllaith | It will JustWork |
| 04:45.11 | scrooge | cool |
| 04:45.15 | scrooge | thanx ^_^ |
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| 04:47.28 | canllaith | I find it works easiest to install to a different prefix to slack default kde (My cvs head is in /opt/kde-unstable, my slackpacks are in /opt/kde) |
| 04:47.50 | scrooge | cool |
| 04:48.49 | meng | anyone here uses beagle? |
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| 05:41.43 | aficionado | Hi, what should I set the $TERM variable so that vim shows all the colors (background and foreground)? (I am using konsole) |
| 05:42.12 | aficionado | I have tried 'export $TERM='xterm-color' but that doesn't seem to effect the background color |
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| 05:46.17 | aficionado | I guess "linux" works |
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| 05:52.40 | Tpo1 | I'm reading a Unix Programmer's Manual from nov. 3, 1971 |
| 05:53.02 | Tpo1 | first edition |
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| 06:01.44 | Hoochie-Coochie- | Has anybody seen lignux today? |
| 06:03.35 | scrooge | heh |
| 06:03.53 | Hoochie-Coochie- | hi scrooge ) |
| 06:03.57 | Hoochie-Coochie- | wats up? |
| 06:04.03 | scrooge | notin much :) |
| 06:04.07 | scrooge | installing slackware |
| 06:04.13 | Hoochie-Coochie- | =)) |
| 06:04.14 | scrooge | boredom has set in :P |
| 06:04.20 | Hoochie-Coochie- | ten point one? |
| 06:04.26 | slayerbob | boredom ? |
| 06:04.32 | scrooge | -current |
| 06:04.36 | scrooge | as of march 22 |
| 06:04.39 | Hoochie-Coochie- | ah.. I see ) |
| 06:04.44 | scrooge | slayerbob, yep |
| 06:04.45 | scrooge | boredom! |
| 06:05.11 | Hoochie-Coochie- | 4Random Fortune: Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. NO (or Linux) is the answer. -- Taken from a .signature from someone from the UK, source unknown |
| 06:05.30 | kendrick | ;) |
| 06:05.45 | kendrick | Microsoft is much scarier than that kind of abstraction. :) |
| 06:05.51 | kendrick | Just see: http://www.lugod.org/microsoft/ |
| 06:05.59 | kendrick | (or visit The Register or Slashdot every other day or so ;) ) |
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| 06:06.17 | Hoochie-Coochie- | :))) |
| 06:06.38 | Hoochie-Coochie- | scrooge> why current? |
| 06:06.47 | Hoochie-Coochie- | scrooge> what's so special about it? |
| 06:06.58 | scrooge | its newer then 10.1? |
| 06:06.59 | scrooge | :P |
| 06:07.10 | Hoochie-Coochie- | scrooge> you mean software, right? |
| 06:07.20 | Hoochie-Coochie- | scrooge> but |
| 06:07.41 | canllaith | Current is the 'current' branch of slackware with the latest bugfixes, security and application updates. |
| 06:07.45 | canllaith | Hence being called 'current' |
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| 06:07.57 | scrooge | yep |
| 06:07.59 | scrooge | canllaith++ |
| 06:08.18 | scrooge | aww no color :/ |
| 06:08.20 | scrooge | hmm |
| 06:08.52 | scrooge | oops. b0rked it |
| 06:10.00 | Hoochie-Coochie- | has anybody tried out Nero-Linux? Is it really as cool as it's described? |
| 06:10.31 | scrooge | i've seen sum pics |
| 06:10.34 | scrooge | think its gtk1 |
| 06:11.41 | Hoochie-Coochie- | drivers db is somewhat great.... i'm satisfied with k3b anyway :D |
| 06:12.09 | Hoochie-Coochie- | and I don't really feel like even trying to run nero on linux... can't see any point in that... yet :D |
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| 06:12.23 | scrooge | heh |
| 06:12.58 | eean | ok, where is the option to show the bar which allows kicker items to be moved around? |
| 06:13.09 | eean | nm |
| 06:13.13 | eean | 'advanced options' |
| 06:13.16 | eean | bleh |
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| 06:14.50 | scrooge | aww this sucks :/ |
| 06:14.55 | scrooge | i cant have swap on another drive? |
| 06:15.10 | yoi | I also compile any kde application, I get lot of warnings that kdewidgets.so has been relocated, though all the application properly compiles, how to rectify this nnoying warning |
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| 06:15.26 | yoi | when I compile any kde application, I get lot of warnings that kdewidgets.so has been relocated, though all the application properly compiles, how to rectify this nnoying warning |
| 06:15.35 | Johanna | IS there a way to reset the kdewallet password? |
| 06:15.54 | scrooge | yoi, warnings are ok |
| 06:16.02 | dwango | johanna, I hope not =) |
| 06:16.09 | scrooge | haha |
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| 06:16.30 | Johanna | dwango, i do |
| 06:16.36 | yoi | scrooge: I know but how to get rid of them |
| 06:16.55 | Johanna | dwango, there must be some configure file that i can delete?! :) |
| 06:17.08 | scrooge | yoi, edit every source code file that needs it? |
| 06:17.10 | scrooge | dunno |
| 06:17.15 | dwango | johanna, i would hope it would be a bit more secure than that |
| 06:17.43 | scrooge | heh |
| 06:17.48 | yoi | scrooge: ? |
| 06:17.52 | Johanna | dwango, well, can't root reset it at least? |
| 06:17.55 | scrooge | wow...thats like complete security hole! |
| 06:17.59 | scrooge | yoi, ? |
| 06:18.15 | scrooge | warnings are ok to see...errors is what u dont wanna see :P |
| 06:18.21 | yoi | scrooge: edit every source code? |
| 06:18.24 | scrooge | i've seen MANY warnings on compiles |
| 06:18.53 | yoi | but scrooge this warning is so big that it blocks compiler messages and very annoying |
| 06:19.19 | scrooge | i see |
| 06:19.29 | scrooge | echo the output to a file? |
| 06:19.54 | yoi | isnt there any solution for this |
| 06:20.07 | scrooge | editing the source code that looks for that file? |
| 06:21.12 | Hoochie-Coochie- | and he's gone... just as I was about to write to him )) |
| 06:21.27 | scrooge | heh |
| 06:21.29 | Hoochie-Coochie- | bye-bye yoi +) |
| 06:22.44 | slayerbob | Hoochie-Coochie-: you probably should not be running that mp3 thingo in here |
| 06:23.18 | Hoochie-Coochie- | slayerbob> oh, ok... |
| 06:23.44 | Hoochie-Coochie- | there's no problem, is there, slayerbob ? :) |
| 06:23.47 | slayerbob | although bear in mind that i am not an op here :P |
| 06:23.57 | slayerbob | well it is no problem for me if you are banned :) |
| 06:23.59 | slayerbob | ymmv |
| 06:24.34 | scrooge | heh |
| 06:24.42 | eean | kde channels aren't much for op power trips |
| 06:25.12 | Dhraakellian | they usually only even assume their powers in times of need |
| 06:25.43 | Dhraakellian | but, yeah, #kde probably isn't the best place for now-playing scripts and such |
| 06:25.44 | Tpo1 | like 'the wonder twins'? |
| 06:26.04 | slayerbob | you mean like when someone is repeatedly annoying the channel with continual updates of the song they are currently listening to ? |
| 06:26.05 | Tpo1 | wonder-twin power, activate! form of, a hamster! |
| 06:26.41 | eean | I'll take your word for it Tpo1 :) |
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| 06:27.08 | Hoochie-Coochie- | well, slayerbob if you don't like it, I stop :) I don't wanna any trouble in here : - ) |
| 06:27.32 | slayerbob | well as i said i am not an op here so i cannot do anything about it :P |
| 06:27.58 | Hoochie-Coochie- | if you could what'd you do, ah? :) |
| 06:28.08 | Johanna | dwango, ~/.kde/share/apps/kwallet/kdewallet.kwl |
| 06:28.09 | Hoochie-Coochie- | ok, to the business |
| 06:28.13 | slayerbob | do ? |
| 06:28.15 | slayerbob | :P |
| 06:28.17 | Hoochie-Coochie- | -no-thread ............ Do not compile threading support. |
| 06:28.36 | Hoochie-Coochie- | it's about qt `./configure --help' |
| 06:28.55 | Hoochie-Coochie- | threading support... hm, how do I know if I need to activate it or not? |
| 06:29.13 | Tpo1 | you want threading |
| 06:29.16 | eean | you know because I'll tell you that you do |
| 06:29.26 | Hoochie-Coochie- | cute |
| 06:29.28 | slayerbob | you don't need it, but things will most likely work better if you use threading |
| 06:29.35 | eean | slayerbob: ? |
| 06:29.38 | Tpo1 | you can think of threading as 'multi-tasking' |
| 06:29.44 | slayerbob | i suspect that it can be disabled for use on those systems where threading breaks stuff |
| 06:29.53 | eean | afaik, KDE doesn't compile with Qt turned off |
| 06:30.04 | eean | Qt threading turned off |
| 06:30.07 | Hoochie-Coochie- | eean> excuse me? |
| 06:30.10 | eean | certainly amaroK wouldn't work at all |
| 06:30.10 | Hoochie-Coochie- | ah |
| 06:30.12 | Hoochie-Coochie- | :) |
| 06:30.16 | slayerbob | eean: i would not be at all surprised :P |
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| 06:31.29 | Tpo1 | Hoochie-Coochie- QT is kind of tricky to install by hand |
| 06:31.51 | Hoochie-Coochie- | Tpo1>I've noticed that ;) |
| 06:32.41 | scrooge | aww crap...cd2 has qt and such on it right? :S |
| 06:32.47 | scrooge | i only burned cd1...lol |
| 06:33.00 | Hoochie-Coochie- | scrooge> :D |
| 06:33.12 | scrooge | guess i can mount loopback |
| 06:33.24 | Tpo1 | http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/7rOIY943.html |
| 06:33.25 | eean | why are you compiling Qt by hand? |
| 06:35.07 | Hoochie-Coochie- | eean> It's kinda challenge which I like |
| 06:35.20 | Tpo1 | Hoochie-Coochie-, read my post :p |
| 06:35.37 | Hoochie-Coochie- | Tpo1> okay, just a minute |
| 06:36.09 | Hoochie-Coochie- | What about debuggin'? Do I need it really? By default the `./configure' suggests: * -release ........... Compile and link Qt with debugging turned off. |
| 06:36.16 | Tpo1 | and afaik, that will only work with # |
| 06:36.16 | Tpo1 | qt-x11-free-3.3.3.tar.bz2 |
| 06:36.16 | Tpo1 | # |
| 06:36.35 | eean | Hoochie-Coochie-: if you want to make good backtraces, you need debugging on |
| 06:36.36 | Hoochie-Coochie- | i'm about to compile 3.3.4 |
| 06:36.43 | Tpo1 | g'luck heh |
| 06:36.58 | Hoochie-Coochie- | eean> what if I'm just and advanced user, but not a programmer? |
| 06:37.06 | eean | then you'll want it on |
| 06:37.16 | eean | so you can make good bug reports |
| 06:37.38 | eean | unless your an advanced user with a crappy computer or something :P |
| 06:37.52 | scrooge | lol |
| 06:38.10 | Hoochie-Coochie- | ah... there's always a thing I'm gettin' upset with... someone else always manages to report the bug I find before I even start thinkin' to open the browser :P |
| 06:38.15 | Tpo1 | Qt is a foundation lib of KDE... if you mess it up, bad stuff can happen :x |
| 06:41.00 | Hoochie-Coochie- | Tpo1> okay, I've read the post |
| 06:41.27 | Hoochie-Coochie- | Tpo1> most of the parameters are unnecessary, in fact. They're matched automatically |
| 06:41.39 | Hoochie-Coochie- | Tpo1> so there's no need to set them explicitly |
| 06:42.10 | Hoochie-Coochie- | Tpo1> and, what about you? Have you ever tried to get qt from source code by yourself? |
| 06:42.19 | Tpo1 | yes |
| 06:42.42 | Hoochie-Coochie- | Tpo1> do you happen to remember if make install accepts ROOT=$PATH or DESTDIR=$PATH option? |
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| 06:43.20 | Tpo1 | I just did 'make install' heh |
| 06:46.10 | Hoochie-Coochie- | you just did install from unpacked sources directory, didn't you? |
| 06:46.32 | Tpo1 | I did what I posted |
| 06:46.56 | Hoochie-Coochie- | that's what I'm talkin' about ) |
| 06:47.27 | Tpo1 | tar xvjf qt-foo && cd qt-foo |
| 06:47.36 | Tpo1 | then started what I posted |
| 06:47.43 | Hoochie-Coochie- | I see |
| 06:50.40 | Hoochie-Coochie- | what would you say about this string?: ./configure --prefix=/usr --sysconfdir=/etc -qt-gif -no-exceptions -platform linux-g++ -thread |
| 06:50.59 | Hoochie-Coochie- | everythin's ok, but -datadir is somewhat uncertain |
| 06:51.33 | Hoochie-Coochie- | it seems like datadir will be just /usr |
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| 06:55.16 | scrooge | yay |
| 06:55.23 | Hoochie-Coochie- | btw, can I build a program on the i686 machine for i386 architecture for instance? |
| 06:55.39 | Hoochie-Coochie- | ./configure slackware-i386-linux ? |
| 06:55.43 | gullyfoyle | i'm trying to use liquid weather and superkaramba but it's invisible! i can right click the spot on the desktop where the theme is and get the menu but the theme itself is not there |
| 06:55.58 | gullyfoyle | hrm |
| 06:56.13 | Hoochie-Coochie- | gullyfoyle> are you connected to the Internet? |
| 06:56.19 | gullyfoyle | my liquid weather theme is invisible! |
| 06:56.29 | gullyfoyle | what do you think? |
| 06:56.39 | Hoochie-Coochie- | gullyfoyle> lw need some time to update the data and only then it'll show up |
| 06:56.55 | gullyfoyle | it's invisible i tll you |
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| 06:56.59 | Hoochie-Coochie- | what version of skaramba do you use? |
| 06:57.00 | gullyfoyle | *tell |
| 06:57.09 | Hoochie-Coochie- | gullyfoyle> I know |
| 06:57.15 | gullyfoyle | .35 |
| 06:57.18 | Hoochie-Coochie- | gullyfoyle> the same thing happens to mine |
| 06:57.46 | Hoochie-Coochie- | gullyfoyle> I just need to wait sometime while lw updates the data from the Internet to form the forecast |
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| 06:59.25 | scrooge | aww |
| 06:59.32 | scrooge | wats the module for loopback devices? |
| 07:02.03 | gullyfoyle | i haven't even configured lw yet because i cant see it |
| 07:02.32 | scrooge | gahhh...i need 2.6 kernel! |
| 07:03.04 | Hoochie-Coochie- | gullyfoyle> I've no idea, really. It behaves sometimes really unpredictably. |
| 07:03.42 | Hoochie-Coochie- | scrooge> : - ) |
| 07:04.02 | scrooge | this slack business is weird! |
| 07:04.20 | Hoochie-Coochie- | scrooge> oh, btw do you recieve announcements and security lists? |
| 07:04.33 | scrooge | for slackware? |
| 07:04.34 | scrooge | nope |
| 07:04.51 | Hoochie-Coochie- | scrooge> aren't you subscribed? |
| 07:05.03 | scrooge | to?? |
| 07:05.09 | Hoochie-Coochie- | scrooge> yeah |
| 07:06.03 | Hoochie-Coochie- | slackware.com offers snnouncement and security updates lists |
| 07:06.09 | scrooge | ohhh |
| 07:06.10 | scrooge | ok |
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| 07:06.25 | scrooge | im not even sure how to install stuff yet ^_^ |
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| 07:06.47 | Hoochie-Coochie- | why are you using current then? ;-) |
| 07:06.49 | scrooge | time to RTFM i suppose |
| 07:06.52 | scrooge | lol |
| 07:07.01 | Hoochie-Coochie- | scrooge> uhu :D |
| 07:08.10 | Hoochie-Coochie- | All the blues lovers come here #blues :)) |
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| 07:14.27 | phxguy | Doesn anybody knoow how to configure the sound system so that the volume is control using master instead headphones? |
| 07:20.02 | Hoochie-Coochie- | my SbLive! doesn't do that either, but I tried Audigy 2 - it works fine )) |
| 07:20.12 | Hoochie-Coochie- | consider upgrading hardware =) |
| 07:20.34 | Hoochie-Coochie- | oh sh*t |
| 07:20.39 | Hoochie-Coochie- | he's left the channel :D |
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| 07:24.48 | scrooge | everything is soo different :/ |
| 07:25.01 | slayerbob | different ? |
| 07:25.21 | scrooge | yea |
| 07:25.27 | scrooge | slackware compared to gentoo |
| 07:25.32 | scrooge | i need something to read! |
| 07:25.34 | scrooge | but wat? |
| 07:25.50 | slayerbob | oh right you are busy being impressed by the niceness that is slackware :P |
| 07:25.58 | scrooge | lol |
| 07:26.07 | Dhraakellian | missing Gentoo's documentation? |
| 07:26.17 | scrooge | i got networking on and managed to install irssi somehow...haha |
| 07:26.29 | scrooge | Dhraakellian, i've changed |
| 07:26.30 | slayerbob | i find that the magic pixies take care of most slackware things automatically |
| 07:26.34 | scrooge | slackware 4 life! |
| 07:26.40 | scrooge | or until i reinstall gentoo |
| 07:26.41 | scrooge | haha |
| 07:26.55 | scrooge | slayerbob, they not doing magic on my system then :/ |
| 07:26.58 | scrooge | i wanna 2.6 kernel |
| 07:27.01 | scrooge | >_< |
| 07:27.03 | slayerbob | so just build one |
| 07:27.07 | scrooge | and to mount this iso loopback |
| 07:27.16 | slayerbob | mount -o loop |
| 07:27.19 | Dhraakellian | scrooge, give canllaith some money and an ssh account? |
| 07:27.22 | scrooge | tried that |
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| 07:27.43 | scrooge | mount -t iso9660 -o loop /mnt/cd2 /mnt/storage/slackware.iso |
| 07:27.48 | scrooge | Dhraakellian, lol |
| 07:28.17 | scrooge | LOOP_SET_FD: Invalid argument |
| 07:28.18 | scrooge | :/ |
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| 07:28.43 | Dhraakellian | and with that |
| 07:28.53 | Dhraakellian | ii dormire |
| 07:29.02 | canllaith | Why would I need an ssh account? |
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| 07:29.26 | canllaith | mount -o loop foo.iso /mnt/cd2 |
| 07:29.27 | Dhraakellian | canllaith, if he wants magical pixies taking care of slackware things for him |
| 07:29.33 | canllaith | Getting your syntax right might help ya :) |
| 07:29.41 | canllaith | heh |
| 07:29.46 | Hoochie-Coochie- | scrooge> actually, in order to mount loop device this must be supported by your current kernel |
| 07:29.53 | scrooge | Hoochie-Coochie-, i know |
| 07:29.54 | canllaith | Which it is by slack default. |
| 07:29.55 | scrooge | its in the kernel |
| 07:29.58 | scrooge | yup |
| 07:30.03 | yoi | Hello I am getting this warning: /usr/lib/kde3/plugins/designer/kdewidgets.so: Feature .... already defined in ...., how to rectify that |
| 07:30.05 | scrooge | my command was wrong? |
| 07:30.13 | Hoochie-Coochie- | scrooge> show me |
| 07:30.27 | scrooge | Hoochie-Coochie-, <*> Loopback device support |
| 07:30.32 | scrooge | canllaith, my syntax was right :/ |
| 07:30.56 | scrooge | without -t iso9660 is says invalid argument |
| 07:31.03 | scrooge | tried -t auto also |
| 07:31.04 | Hoochie-Coochie- | cat the config file |
| 07:32.22 | canllaith | *grep* the config file. |
| 07:32.25 | scrooge | i did |
| 07:32.30 | scrooge | grep -i LOOP .config |
| 07:32.32 | canllaith | (That was for Hoochie-Coochie- not you =p) |
| 07:32.36 | scrooge | oh haha |
| 07:32.38 | scrooge | :) |
| 07:32.48 | scrooge | lol |
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| 07:34.59 | scrooge | *shudder* |
| 07:35.06 | scrooge | rc.d scares me :S |
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| 07:35.59 | slayerbob | it does ? |
| 07:36.26 | canllaith | It's not even slightly scary |
| 07:36.26 | scrooge | yep...gotta get used to it |
| 07:36.39 | scrooge | yall been using it for awhile now :/ |
| 07:36.47 | scrooge | i feel like a n00b again |
| 07:36.59 | canllaith | It's no different to any other linux distro really |
| 07:37.13 | canllaith | except redhat style does the whole symlink for runlevels thing |
| 07:37.18 | canllaith | but really, it's pretty similar :) |
| 07:37.46 | scrooge | chmod -x /etc/rc.d/rc.mysqld <---stops mysql from starting to my understanding rite? |
| 07:37.55 | canllaith | Yes |
| 07:37.59 | scrooge | ^_^ |
| 07:38.00 | canllaith | because if you look in rc.M |
| 07:38.06 | scrooge | looking |
| 07:38.21 | canllaith | it does if [ - x /etc/rc.d/rc.mysqld ] ; then do foo. |
| 07:38.42 | canllaith | So it does a quick test for the executable bit set and if it is runs it, if it's not does nothing. |
| 07:38.44 | canllaith | Very very simplistic |
| 07:38.51 | scrooge | ahh i see |
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| 07:39.24 | Hoochie-Coochie- | and very cool |
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| 07:39.51 | eean | fun: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=22249 |
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| 07:40.32 | Oleg_ | brb |
| 07:40.50 | Tpo1 | yours? |
| 07:42.04 | eean | no |
| 07:42.22 | Tpo1 | cool anyhow |
| 07:44.13 | Hoochie-Coochie- | truely... awesome :) I LIKE IT VERY MUCH lol |
| 07:44.52 | slayerbob | there's no hurry Oleg_ :) |
| 07:47.52 | scrooge | hmm...so i should build a vanilla 2.6 kernel myself? or google for a package? |
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| 07:48.24 | Hoochie-Coochie- | scrooge> better yourself |
| 07:48.31 | scrooge | ok |
| 07:49.06 | Hoochie-Coochie- | and why do you refuse Gentoo? It's a good distro, anyway... |
| 07:49.07 | scrooge | how bout the config? i know how to manually config a kernel and all but this module business, it seems slack likes more? |
| 07:49.38 | scrooge | i dont refuse it |
| 07:49.38 | Hoochie-Coochie- | well, just make menuconfig and read help if something |
| 07:49.41 | scrooge | thats where i come from |
| 07:49.42 | scrooge | lol |
| 07:49.42 | Hoochie-Coochie- | is unclear |
| 07:49.52 | scrooge | nah i can easily make a working kernel :) |
| 07:50.12 | Hoochie-Coochie- | then go on and make it pretty small and cool :D |
| 07:50.21 | scrooge | ^_^ |
| 07:50.34 | canllaith | scrooge: I just build vanilla myself. |
| 07:50.39 | scrooge | cool |
| 07:50.43 | scrooge | will do |
| 07:50.46 | canllaith | Because, Slackware kernels are vanilla. They're not patched at all so ... you might as well grab the latest from kernel.org =p |
| 07:50.55 | scrooge | haha true!! |
| 07:51.11 | scrooge | of course im gonna add some breakage patches! mwhahahaha |
| 07:51.38 | canllaith | heh |
| 07:52.05 | scrooge | i have an act for breaking things :) |
| 07:53.15 | Hoochie-Coochie- | canllaith, scrooge > are you getiin' up Slackware simlutaneously??? |
| 07:53.24 | canllaith | huh? |
| 07:53.30 | scrooge | eh? |
| 07:53.34 | scrooge | lol |
| 07:53.45 | Hoochie-Coochie- | canllaith> =) |
| 07:54.06 | scrooge | 8 years...whoa cool |
| 07:54.07 | Hoochie-Coochie- | scrooge> why do you install slackware? What's wrong about Gentoo? |
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| 07:54.22 | Hoochie-Coochie- | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:54.24 | scrooge | Hoochie-Coochie-, nothing is wrong with it. just want something different |
| 07:54.30 | canllaith | Can we leave the gentoo advocacy at the door please? |
| 07:54.33 | scrooge | gentoo is nice and all but tis booooooring |
| 07:54.37 | Hoochie-Coochie- | get bored with a single distro? |
| 07:54.38 | scrooge | oh sorry :( |
| 07:54.52 | canllaith | There is absolutely no reason to come into a OS independant channel and tell people installing a linux to install another linux =p |
| 07:54.53 | Borg^Queen | Hey people. |
| 07:54.55 | Borg^Queen | aseigo: did you really do away with icon zooming in 3.4? |
| 07:55.04 | canllaith | Borg^Queen: yes he did (I think he's in Germany right now) |
| 07:55.11 | Borg^Queen | Ah |
| 07:55.25 | canllaith | It caused lots of bugs to mount up and was a bit of a usability problem |
| 07:55.36 | canllaith | in extreme cases, it caused the buttons not to be able to be clicked on at all |
| 07:55.44 | Hoochie-Coochie- | canllaith> I'm just trying to understand why scrooge want's to get Slackware up, because Gentoo is also a pretty good, modern distro, and there are should be some reasons to do like that |
| 07:55.59 | canllaith | Hoochie-Coochie-: So? Do you think every person in the world should use Gentoo just because *you* like it? |
| 07:56.02 | Borg^Queen | canllaith: is that for me or someone else? |
| 07:56.05 | canllaith | This is not #distrowars |
| 07:56.11 | canllaith | Borg^Queen: yup :) Explaining why the icon zoomin went. |
| 07:56.18 | Borg^Queen | Ah |
| 07:56.26 | canllaith | I'm sure Gentoo is a lovely distro. As is Redhat, Slackware, Suse, Mandrake.... |
| 07:56.31 | Hoochie-Coochie- | canllaith> I use slackware, actually |
| 07:56.33 | canllaith | You could debate their merits until the cows come home. |
| 07:56.39 | Borg^Queen | It really cause all those problems? Why not in the past? |
| 07:56.43 | canllaith | Hoochie-Coochie-: I don't care what you use :) This is not and will never be #distrowars |
| 07:57.02 | canllaith | Borg^Queen: Well if you've never had a problem that really doesn't mean other people haven't either. |
| 07:57.21 | Borg^Queen | canllaith: why are you being so rude? |
| 07:57.35 | canllaith | um... I thought I was explaining something to you. |
| 07:57.37 | Hoochie-Coochie- | canllaith> hey, chap! chill out, I told ya I just want to know the personal opinion of the single person, that's it. No wars. No clones. No drugs. PEACE. Right? =) |
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| 07:57.50 | Borg^Queen | That last line was rude. |
| 07:57.52 | canllaith | Hoochie-Coochie-: Yeah and you asked lots, and he's not interested :) This channel isn't for that, please drop it. |
| 07:58.19 | scrooge | heh |
| 07:58.23 | canllaith | Borg^Queen: well I'm sorry you felt that way, it wasn't intended to be rude. It was intended to answer your question. If that's a problem you might be in the wrong place :) |
| 07:58.24 | scrooge | Hoochie-Coochie-, check pm :) |
| 07:58.30 | Hoochie-Coochie- | canllaith> okay, if it irritates you... just for the heaven's sake |
| 07:58.48 | Borg^Queen | canllaith: you're really bringing this channel down. |
| 07:59.05 | scrooge | heh... |
| 07:59.06 | canllaith | Borg^Queen: well once again I'm sorry you feel that way. Did you have any other questions you'd like answered about the icon zooming or was that it? |
| 07:59.14 | Borg^Queen | This is why many people are now telling me they're avoiding this channel. It's sad. |
| 07:59.31 | canllaith | uhuh. |
| 07:59.43 | Borg^Queen | canllaith: you should really rethink the way you treat people. |
| 07:59.55 | Borg^Queen | Sadly really. |
| 08:00.00 | canllaith | mmm ok. |
| 08:00.06 | scrooge | :/ |
| 08:00.08 | scrooge | oh bother |
| 08:00.11 | Borg^Queen | This place has become so hostile. |
| 08:00.13 | canllaith | I really don't understand how you thought me explaining why the icon zooming went was rude, I honestly don't :) |
| 08:00.23 | canllaith | I thought you deserved to know why it went, it's a hotly debated topic. |
| 08:00.27 | scrooge | same here *cough* |
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| 08:00.31 | Borg^Queen | I'll be joining the others... |
| 08:00.46 | canllaith | So... you didn't want an answer to your question? Seriously hon, I'm confused here |
| 08:00.52 | Borg^Queen | `I wasn't talking about your explanation. |
| 08:01.12 | Borg^Queen | ok, maybe I walked in on something tense here. |
| 08:01.15 | canllaith | Well, you came in pretty late in the day to not see what came before. |
| 08:01.34 | canllaith | (Previous conversation etc) |
| 08:01.42 | Borg^Queen | That's what I mean by hostile. |
| 08:01.53 | canllaith | No, you're misinterpreting what I'm saying. |
| 08:02.00 | Borg^Queen | take a breath |
| 08:02.04 | Borg^Queen | Perhaps I am. |
| 08:02.08 | canllaith | All I'm saying is, you only just came in just as I delivered the final line to 'please don't distro war in here' |
| 08:02.21 | canllaith | without seeing everything that came before, which was more much nicer warnings :) |
| 08:02.22 | Borg^Queen | very good |
| 08:02.30 | Borg^Queen | So you're still in battle mode |
| 08:02.40 | canllaith | No, the ':)' is meant to be a smile |
| 08:02.59 | Borg^Queen | what is it meant to be then? |
| 08:03.10 | canllaith | _is_ meant to be a smile. |
| 08:03.28 | Borg^Queen | Ooh ok misread ok |
| 08:03.36 | canllaith | it happens :) |
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| 08:04.07 | Borg^Queen | How long has you been at this "don't start a distro war" thing? |
| 08:04.13 | canllaith | Oh, not that long. |
| 08:04.22 | scrooge | 5 seconds? |
| 08:04.29 | Borg^Queen | Really |
| 08:04.35 | canllaith | heh a little longer than that. |
| 08:04.41 | Borg^Queen | Must have been one hell of a 5 secs |
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| 08:04.49 | canllaith | At any rate, it's silly to try and make judgements about conversations you weren't in the channel for :P |
| 08:04.57 | Borg^Queen | Are you ok now canllaith |
| 08:04.59 | scrooge | lmao...truee |
| 08:05.00 | canllaith | I was always ok |
| 08:05.05 | canllaith | lol I was never even slightly narky |
| 08:05.09 | canllaith | If I was, banning would have occured ;) |
| 08:05.24 | straw | heh. she said narky |
| 08:05.28 | Borg^Queen | I wasn't making any judgements. Merely pointing out the tone.... questioning the tone for clearity |
| 08:05.42 | canllaith | Well that's cool. You can tell me to chill if you want. |
| 08:05.51 | straw | wtf is narky? :) i'm just a simple canuck |
| 08:05.53 | canllaith | It's kinda harsh to fly in and tell me I'm rude and that I'm bringing down the tone of the channel |
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| 08:06.01 | canllaith | when you didn't actually see any of the conversation :) |
| 08:06.04 | Borg^Queen | Hey straw |
| 08:06.12 | straw | hi Borg^Queen |
| 08:06.13 | canllaith | straw: um.... kinda gender-neutral 'bitchy' |
| 08:06.16 | _poison | hi there =D |
| 08:06.22 | canllaith | Guys can be narky too |
| 08:06.23 | scrooge | heh |
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| 08:06.51 | AnotherData | hello, when i mount a data cd and go to "devices" in konqueror and try to browse the cd it says "Protocol not supported devices" |
| 08:06.53 | Borg^Queen | Well it's just that this good channel is now getting the rep of a hostile channel. |
| 08:07.02 | canllaith | mmmm AnotherData are you using KDE 3.4 by any chance? |
| 08:07.06 | AnotherData | yeah |
| 08:07.08 | canllaith | I think devices was deprecated in favour of media:/ |
| 08:07.10 | canllaith | Try that :) |
| 08:07.16 | AnotherData | ok |
| 08:07.23 | Borg^Queen | media? |
| 08:07.28 | Borg^Queen | Like debian? |
| 08:07.29 | AnotherData | thanks |
| 08:07.33 | AnotherData | worked |
| 08:07.39 | straw | Borg^Queen: that would depend heavily on who's telling you that |
| 08:07.41 | canllaith | Borg^Queen: ok, but does accusing me of being rude and bringing the channel down make it less hostile or.... ? :) |
| 08:08.04 | Borg^Queen | Read above. |
| 08:08.08 | canllaith | and if it's someone that lauri or I have banned for being a twit too since they do sometimes hold grudges for that. Doesn't seem to occur to many people that they could just try not being a twit to start with :P |
| 08:08.13 | Borg^Queen | straw, people I've know in person. |
| 08:08.36 | Borg^Queen | They have not been banned. |
| 08:08.48 | Borg^Queen | About my media question? |
| 08:08.49 | straw | well, it's a fact of life on the old intarweb |
| 08:08.55 | canllaith | I don't know anything about debian sorry |
| 08:09.14 | Borg^Queen | Well perhaps someone else then... |
| 08:09.49 | AnotherData | so why is there still devices:/ |
| 08:09.50 | straw | you get these older, jaded *nixers being rather harsh |
| 08:09.50 | AnotherData | ? |
| 08:09.55 | canllaith | AnotherData: not sure |
| 08:10.04 | AnotherData | oh |
| 08:10.15 | Borg^Queen | straw: explain please |
| 08:10.26 | straw | they don't really realize they seem rude |
| 08:10.26 | canllaith | To be very honest, I can only see one hostile person in here right now. |
| 08:10.39 | Borg^Queen | `Ah |
| 08:10.43 | canllaith | I think this is just a misunderstanding, and we should just drop it and get onto the topic :) |
| 08:11.13 | Borg^Queen | straw: they aberviate too much and so on. Except others to be at their level? |
| 08:11.15 | straw | they expect research done and reasonable questions, on topic discussion, etc |
| 08:11.31 | Borg^Queen | exactly |
| 08:11.42 | Borg^Queen | Hardcore and on target |
| 08:12.08 | Borg^Queen | They forget their beginnings |
| 08:12.29 | scrooge | :/ |
| 08:12.44 | Borg^Queen | Aye |
| 08:12.58 | straw | best to be thick skinned and learn, or just /ignore if you can't hack it |
| 08:13.08 | Borg^Queen | On the other hand you get some old nixers who love to tell stories of the old days |
| 08:13.17 | Borg^Queen | Aye |
| 08:13.39 | Borg^Queen | Not much to learn though, from someone who can't teach |
| 08:13.53 | scrooge | how bout that new build of kde!! |
| 08:14.04 | scrooge | sends^^ |
| 08:14.12 | canllaith | That might be so - but you're not paying them to teach. You're asking them to take some time out from development or documentation or playing with their kids - or some other task to do the best we can. |
| 08:14.19 | Borg^Queen | The possession of knowledge, in this case, is useless if it can't be shared |
| 08:14.28 | Borg^Queen | scrooge: lol |
| 08:14.36 | canllaith | and we like to do it because solving problems is fun |
| 08:14.40 | canllaith | It's like crosswords for the ultra geeky |
| 08:14.43 | straw | scrooge: it's rockin'. hacked up the circles kdm theme to have kde artwork |
| 08:14.44 | scrooge | haha |
| 08:14.50 | Noldo | Borg^Queen: knowledge is like money and shit, useless if not spread |
| 08:14.53 | scrooge | straw, cool |
| 08:15.02 | Borg^Queen | Noldo: you got it |
| 08:15.06 | scrooge | im attempting to run kde-cvs on slackware |
| 08:15.13 | scrooge | so far so good, i think |
| 08:15.15 | Borg^Queen | and? |
| 08:15.16 | scrooge | making a kernel ^_^ |
| 08:15.20 | Borg^Queen | 3.4? |
| 08:15.32 | straw | 'cept gdmthemetester barfs on circles, which seems odd |
| 08:15.44 | Borg^Queen | circles? |
| 08:15.49 | canllaith | heh - I bet you'll be smarter than I was the first few times I tried to build a kernel. |
| 08:16.01 | straw | but i guess the greeter isn't quite done |
| 08:16.04 | canllaith | I let it overwrite the old one, and then it didn't have required support for my ide chipset to boot :O |
| 08:16.19 | Hoochie-Coochie- | 4Random Fortune: Absolutely nothing should be concluded from these figures except that no conclusion can be drawn from them. -- Joseph L. Brothers, Linux/PowerPC Project) |
| 08:16.21 | scrooge | heh |
| 08:16.23 | Borg^Queen | ouch |
| 08:16.24 | scrooge | that musta sucked |
| 08:16.31 | straw | Borg^Queen: kdm does gdm themes now, almost |
| 08:16.35 | canllaith | A wee bit. |
| 08:16.40 | scrooge | i've done that before when i first first started kernel compiling :P |
| 08:16.44 | Borg^Queen | almost lol |
| 08:16.49 | canllaith | I think I just re-installed the default kernel and decided not to touch it for a few more months. |
| 08:16.55 | scrooge | hehe |
| 08:16.58 | scrooge | easy way out :P |
| 08:17.03 | canllaith | :P |
| 08:17.16 | straw | Borg^Queen: none of the gdm themes seem to actually work as of yet |
| 08:17.22 | Borg^Queen | Ah, kernel building is easy. Give someone who really knows how to do it a pizza. |
| 08:17.30 | Borg^Queen | They'll do it for you |
| 08:17.33 | canllaith | It's certainly gotten much much easier. |
| 08:17.40 | scrooge | yep |
| 08:17.45 | Borg^Queen | straw: but in theory it works |
| 08:17.46 | scrooge | after time it all makes sense |
| 08:17.47 | canllaith | 2.6 kernels are not such a nightmare for me as 2.4/2.2 ones |
| 08:17.56 | straw | Borg^Queen: however there is one shipped with kde, a port of the circles gdm theme |
| 08:18.08 | Hoochie-Coochie- | 2.4 were okay |
| 08:18.09 | Borg^Queen | ah |
| 08:18.12 | scrooge | i make menuconfig'd for 2.4 kernel...i forgot how boooo the menu layout was :S |
| 08:18.19 | Borg^Queen | does it actully work? |
| 08:18.33 | straw | Borg^Queen: yup. it's not in kcontrol yet. |
| 08:18.33 | Borg^Queen | booo? |
| 08:18.34 | Hoochie-Coochie- | sure |
| 08:18.43 | Borg^Queen | straw: nice |
| 08:18.57 | Borg^Queen | What distro are you running it on? |
| 08:19.03 | scrooge | boooo as in lame, wack, garbage, crappy |
| 08:19.09 | straw | Borg^Queen: still fedora |
| 08:19.14 | Borg^Queen | wack lol |
| 08:19.19 | scrooge | :P |
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| 08:19.33 | canllaith | Welcome back physos |
| 08:19.35 | Borg^Queen | I'm playing with Sarge, Gentoo and Mandrake |
| 08:19.43 | physos | canllaith: heya :) |
| 08:19.49 | Borg^Queen | Oh an Arch Linux |
| 08:20.11 | straw | Borg^Queen: fedora had binaries (yum repos even) within days of the 3.4.0 release :) |
| 08:20.25 | Borg^Queen | whoa |
| 08:20.30 | Borg^Queen | Are they stable? |
| 08:20.56 | straw | fine so far. kdesu seems a little hosed |
| 08:21.12 | Borg^Queen | how so? |
| 08:21.41 | canllaith | brucehoult: this turtle is writin my name :D |
| 08:21.50 | canllaith | wow, you have your system notifications loud. I heard that. |
| 08:21.51 | brucehoult | clever turtle :-) |
| 08:21.59 | scrooge | slow turtle! |
| 08:22.13 | straw | the admin bits in kcontrol just dump me to the kcontrol default "Welcome to Contol Center..." |
| 08:22.14 | brucehoult | from all the way down there? |
| 08:22.18 | canllaith | brucehoult: yup |
| 08:22.21 | canllaith | heard that one too =p |
| 08:22.23 | canllaith | *pop* |
| 08:22.48 | straw | i need more Dr. Pepper |
| 08:22.49 | Borg^Queen | straw: any clue why? |
| 08:23.11 | brucehoult | you should ehar the breaking glass one :-) |
| 08:23.19 | canllaith | ugh, I hate that one |
| 08:23.23 | straw | Borg^Queen: no. it works if i start the applet directly |
| 08:23.42 | Borg^Queen | but not in kcontrol |
| 08:24.11 | straw | i've redone ~/.kde and the usual user clean up |
| 08:24.48 | scrooge | slackware use udev? |
| 08:24.49 | scrooge | 0.o |
| 08:24.56 | straw | so i'm assuming it'll get fixed |
| 08:25.17 | Borg^Queen | You haven't tried it |
| 08:25.25 | straw | scrooge: it's taking over |
| 08:25.39 | scrooge | i know |
| 08:25.42 | scrooge | i used 056 ;) |
| 08:25.59 | straw | scrooge: you should be happy! |
| 08:26.04 | scrooge | haha |
| 08:26.22 | straw | yay. reasonable device discovery |
| 08:26.40 | Borg^Queen | oh |
| 08:26.55 | scrooge | im of gentooism origin |
| 08:26.59 | scrooge | i;ve tried everything under the sun |
| 08:27.04 | scrooge | s/;/'/ |
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| 08:28.31 | Ktaz | hey google :) http://www.playzero.com |
| 08:28.54 | straw | link spammers suck |
| 08:28.55 | scrooge | ... |
| 08:28.57 | scrooge | wtf |
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| 08:29.17 | Borg^Queen | well good night people. |
| 08:29.28 | scrooge | nite Borg^Queen |
| 08:29.39 | Borg^Queen | Nite scrooge |
| 08:29.42 | scrooge | ha i just realized your nick :P |
| 08:29.42 | Borg^Queen | be good |
| 08:29.47 | scrooge | i;ll try ^_^ |
| 08:29.51 | Borg^Queen | Pardon? |
| 08:30.01 | scrooge | Borg^Queen <---- |
| 08:30.06 | Borg^Queen | You'll try but not very hard I except |
| 08:30.08 | scrooge | assimilator |
| 08:30.15 | Borg^Queen | Ah you've heard of the borg |
| 08:30.18 | scrooge | ep |
| 08:30.22 | scrooge | ^y |
| 08:30.44 | scrooge | x_x |
| 08:30.57 | scrooge | i thin |
| 08:31.02 | Borg^Queen | LOL You'll make an excellent expresso machine |
| 08:31.12 | Borg^Queen | rotfl |
| 08:31.35 | Borg^Queen | Well there goes a fine expresso machine |
| 08:32.02 | Borg^Queen | GN or Day to all |
| 08:32.03 | _poison | scrooge: why run ? I don't see another borg here ... she's helpless all alone ^^ |
| 08:32.18 | straw | see ya, Borg^Queen |
| 08:32.27 | Borg^Queen | :) |
| 08:32.58 | AnotherData | nite Borg^Queen |
| 08:33.11 | Borg^Queen | Nite AnotherData |
| 08:35.46 | bushwakko | are there any good tools to mount bin/cue images like daemon-tools in windows? |
| 08:38.44 | canllaith | heh, so who remembers this from when you were a kid playing with computers? |
| 08:38.47 | canllaith | http://www.hoult.org/~canllaith/foo/kturtle-is-cool.png |
| 08:39.13 | straw | heh |
| 08:39.56 | mfx- | bushwakko, http://cdemu.sourceforge.net/ |
| 08:39.58 | scrooge | :O |
| 08:40.00 | scrooge | nice |
| 08:40.04 | straw | computer class, grade 8, '84 |
| 08:40.05 | _poison | has somebody got a cherry cyboard ? |
| 08:40.14 | canllaith | straw: eheh, wow I'm not going to admit what I was doing in 84 |
| 08:40.19 | straw | heh |
| 08:40.37 | straw | crawling around on the floor? |
| 08:40.45 | canllaith | mmm |
| 08:40.49 | canllaith | I would have been walkin by 84 |
| 08:40.52 | canllaith | ..... if we're talking late 84 :P |
| 08:41.17 | scrooge | wow |
| 08:41.20 | scrooge | 84! |
| 08:41.30 | canllaith | slayerbob: what, you were too drunk? :P |
| 08:41.37 | slayerbob | well... i remember the marketing for the rerelease of 1984 :P |
| 08:41.41 | canllaith | scrooge: most of the grandaddy's in this channel were in University by then iirc ;) |
| 08:41.48 | scrooge | :O |
| 08:41.49 | slayerbob | they had a really lame line that still sticks in my brain |
| 08:42.05 | slayerbob | "1948: the book of the year; 1984: the year of the book" |
| 08:42.35 | straw | that *is* lame |
| 08:42.36 | slayerbob | drunk in 1984 ? i doubt i even knew what alcohol was |
| 08:42.46 | canllaith | You would have been... 13? |
| 08:42.47 | slayerbob | straw: yup but darned effective if i still remember it now |
| 08:42.52 | slayerbob | hush you :P |
| 08:42.55 | canllaith | I know brucehoult was at university :) |
| 08:43.03 | slayerbob | i was not even at high school |
| 08:43.09 | canllaith | ... um, was he *finished* uni by then? :\ |
| 08:43.13 | slayerbob | LOL |
| 08:43.17 | brucehoult | emd of '84 |
| 08:43.25 | canllaith | heh |
| 08:43.26 | brucehoult | graduation ceremony in early '85 |
| 08:43.40 | canllaith | :) So about when my mother was starting to teach me to dress myself :P |
| 08:44.08 | Oleg_ | It's 3:43 o'clock at night |
| 08:44.11 | scrooge | :O |
| 08:45.34 | AnotherData | nite |
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| 08:47.00 | scrooge | oh no |
| 08:47.03 | scrooge | no nano!! |
| 08:47.13 | scrooge | i dont know how to use vi :( |
| 08:47.20 | straw | mcedit |
| 08:47.33 | Oleg_ | I love computers! |
| 08:47.37 | scrooge | straw, thank you!! |
| 08:47.39 | scrooge | phew |
| 08:48.11 | canllaith | scrooge: it has pico, too. |
| 08:48.15 | Oleg_ | When I still lived in the former USSR, I was fascinated by computers even though I never had one there |
| 08:48.19 | scrooge | ahh pico |
| 08:48.20 | scrooge | good |
| 08:48.24 | scrooge | i know pico ^_^ |
| 08:48.37 | canllaith | :) Should be pretty familiar for a nano user. |
| 08:48.42 | scrooge | yep ^_^ |
| 08:49.20 | Oleg_ | We bought a magazine with the stories on American computers |
| 08:49.23 | Oleg_ | on Apple |
| 08:49.28 | Oleg_ | on IBM |
| 08:49.29 | straw | i was indifferent to computers until my early twenties |
| 08:49.50 | canllaith | Oleg_: Isn't it very cool that all the computers etc that fascinated us as kids are so cheap now? Or you can get emulators etc? |
| 08:49.52 | Oleg_ | I remember seeing the pretty picture of Apple Macintosh |
| 08:50.04 | canllaith | I love that all the software I read about then and wanted so badly to play with, I can just download and tinker with now =p |
| 08:50.22 | scrooge | hehe |
| 08:51.32 | slayerbob | :P |
| 08:51.32 | Oleg_ | canllaith: Interesting. Are you sure they are cheap? Maybe someone wants to sell it saying it has a huge historical value like 286 processor |
| 08:52.49 | canllaith | lol I'm sure. |
| 08:53.05 | canllaith | besides, you can emulate most of the operating systems/software I'm interested in pretty easily |
| 08:53.12 | Oleg_ | ok |
| 08:53.13 | canllaith | heh and console games that I wanted so bad as a kid ;) |
| 08:53.20 | canllaith | for my state of the art sega mega drive! |
| 08:53.22 | canllaith | rawr!! |
| 08:53.30 | slayerbob | :o |
| 08:53.32 | slayerbob | mega!!! |
| 08:53.36 | straw | heh |
| 08:53.57 | canllaith | (which iirc is a genesis overseas) |
| 08:54.02 | slayerbob | it always struck me as odd that it was pronounced "seega megga" but spelt "sega mega" |
| 08:54.10 | slayerbob | maybe that is just with an nz accent though :P |
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| 08:55.36 | canllaith | lol maybe |
| 08:57.42 | Oleg_ | I think I am not stupid |
| 08:57.55 | straw | that's good |
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| 08:59.03 | Numz | hi, i'm having some issues with kde/X, X is running at 20-50% cpu |
| 08:59.08 | straw | hmph. kaffeine won't let me hide the playlist tab :( |
| 08:59.19 | Oleg_ | ok, gotta sleep. later |
| 08:59.29 | Numz | it looks like it's trying to launch something but i cant figure out what |
| 08:59.52 | Numz | nothing special shows up in top except X |
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| 09:00.40 | Numz | it also makes xmms randomly crash |
| 09:01.00 | scrooge | yay in slackware on 2.6 kernel :D:D |
| 09:01.04 | scrooge | time for kde cvs |
| 09:01.09 | scrooge | *evil laff* |
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| 09:01.47 | knoppix | how to extend the space that is used for the icon`s label? |
| 09:01.58 | knoppix | I have for example "Home direc..." |
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| 09:02.11 | knoppix | How to make "Home Directory" visible? |
| 09:02.50 | straw | on 3.4.0? |
| 09:02.53 | knoppix | yes |
| 09:03.12 | straw | it's in kcontrol |
| 09:03.37 | knoppix | Appearence? |
| 09:03.41 | straw | KDE Components -> File Manager |
| 09:03.57 | scrooge | is konstruct crappy? |
| 09:03.57 | physos | knoppix: RMB on the desktop, Configure Desktop .., , Background, Advanced Options. |
| 09:04.04 | scrooge | or not for cvs building? |
| 09:04.29 | straw | oh, physos is correct. my bad, knoppix |
| 09:04.30 | physos | scrooge: aeh, konstruct downlaods tar balls. |
| 09:04.39 | scrooge | ok |
| 09:04.40 | canllaith | konstruct doesn't do cvs no |
| 09:04.41 | scrooge | thanx |
| 09:04.45 | physos | straw: it is the same modulte in kcontrol. |
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| 09:05.08 | scrooge | heh |
| 09:05.43 | physos | http://developer.kde.org/build/konstruct/ |
| 09:05.57 | scrooge | im at http://developer.kde.org/build/compile_cvs.html |
| 09:06.00 | scrooge | :) |
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| 09:06.38 | scrooge | think kde will compile with qt4? lol |
| 09:06.44 | scrooge | probly uber breakage |
| 09:07.25 | physos | scrooge: dunno if the compatibility libs are included in the betas. |
| 09:07.32 | scrooge | k |
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| 09:08.50 | mfx- | do you mean the qt3 compatibility libs? |
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| 09:09.06 | mfx- | they are included in qt4 beta(s) |
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| 09:12.34 | scrooge | really? |
| 09:12.34 | scrooge | cool |
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| 09:15.31 | Borg^Queen | query canllaith |
| 09:16.04 | Borg^Queen | I wanted to say something |
| 09:16.12 | Borg^Queen | Good night lol |
| 09:16.38 | scrooge | lata :) |
| 09:19.43 | mfx- | yes, they are part of qt4 |
| 09:20.01 | mfx- | look for qt3compat |
| 09:20.31 | mfx- | there is a porting howto too at doc.trolltech.com |
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| 09:21.57 | scrooge | wheres kde normally go? |
| 09:22.12 | scrooge | im running some cgi-bin thingie to make the cvs build scripts or sumtin? lol |
| 09:23.09 | physos | scrooge: can you please decipher that? |
| 09:24.00 | scrooge | http://grammarian.homelinux.net/cgi-bin/kdecvs-build-wizard |
| 09:24.19 | physos | scrooge: how about kdesdk/scripts/kde-build ? |
| 09:24.34 | scrooge | i have no kde atm |
| 09:25.03 | physos | the page you refer to is a cgi-script for that specific, not-included-inkde proggie |
| 09:25.45 | scrooge | oh |
| 09:25.49 | scrooge | so dont use it? |
| 09:27.21 | physos | scrooge: Use it if you want. I just wanted to state this is not the way the majority builds CVS. KDE is pretty easy to build. Just compile arts, kdelibs and kdebase in that order and then the rest in any order (except kdeaddons, which should be last) |
| 09:27.54 | physos | simple ./configure --prefix=... && make && make install |
| 09:28.04 | scrooge | k |
| 09:28.12 | scrooge | wat about grabbing the cvs files? |
| 09:28.15 | scrooge | use tarballs? |
| 09:28.21 | physos | if you want to script it try kdesdk/scripts/kde-build |
| 09:28.50 | scrooge | in the cvs tree? |
| 09:28.53 | physos | scrooge: for your first complete KDE compile? grab the 3.4 source tar balls. |
| 09:29.05 | scrooge | ive compiled kde before |
| 09:29.26 | physos | scrooge: k |
| 09:29.31 | physos | used konstruct? |
| 09:29.33 | scrooge | heh...many times |
| 09:29.35 | scrooge | nah |
| 09:29.40 | scrooge | portage |
| 09:29.49 | physos | scrooge: gentoo, k |
| 09:29.57 | scrooge | yep |
| 09:30.19 | scrooge | felt kinda bored so going from scratch way |
| 09:31.49 | physos | kde-build has a good documented config file. |
| 09:32.28 | scrooge | cool |
| 09:32.31 | scrooge | browsing cvs |
| 09:35.16 | physos | The thing itself is a killer bash script. |
| 09:37.28 | scrooge | cool |
| 09:37.29 | scrooge | got it |
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| 09:39.33 | physos | scrooge: you have to get the source via anoncvs your self though. it only updates. |
| 09:39.51 | scrooge | oh |
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| 09:40.46 | physos | http://developer.kde.org/source/ |
| 09:41.16 | physos | http://developer.kde.org/source/anoncvs.html to be precise |
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| 09:41.54 | scrooge | cool thanx :D |
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| 09:46.39 | foux | hello |
| 09:47.05 | foux | I've heard that it is possible, in the 3.4.0 version of kcontrol to manage logitech wireless mouse |
| 09:47.13 | foux | but I can't find where it is |
| 09:47.21 | foux | can somebody help me with this? |
| 09:48.54 | kendrick | feh! always with the 'over quota'... 'mailbox full'... 'dd: no space on device' |
| 09:49.37 | hasimir44 | my logitech wireless just works if the charger is plugged in the ps2 ... |
| 09:50.08 | hasimir44 | but if i plug the wireless keyboard in usb at the same time, one of them stops working |
| 09:50.14 | hasimir44 | only one at a time will work.. |
| 09:50.14 | foux | hasimir44: mine is working perfectly, but I've heard that now you can monitor your battery level, ... |
| 09:50.38 | kendrick | nifty |
| 09:50.43 | hasimir44 | nice |
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| 09:51.27 | physos | foux: peripherials --> mouse |
| 09:52.01 | foux | physos: ok, thanks, so I must have a problem with my kcontrol, 'cause I've got nothing regarding logitech out there :'( |
| 09:52.06 | foux | thank's physos |
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| 09:53.54 | Linuxhooligan_ | hi |
| 09:54.47 | Kryczek | hi |
| 09:55.06 | scrooge | hi |
| 09:55.12 | kendrick | hi |
| 09:55.13 | kendrick | heheh |
| 09:55.39 | scrooge | :P |
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| 09:58.58 | Toastie_ | How do I make KDevelop remember the docks settings and sizes over restart? |
| 09:59.52 | foux | .+host guiguito *!gtgtg@*.adsl.proxad.net |
| 09:59.57 | foux | oups |
| 10:00.02 | foux | sorry, wrong window |
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| 10:01.02 | spike | hi there |
| 10:01.53 | scrooge | hi |
| 10:01.55 | scrooge | haha |
| 10:02.01 | spike | in kmail, how does ignore and watch work? I've looked at the conf and those are not explained. watch does anything but the pair of eyes |
| 10:02.42 | spike | and ignore just mark 'em with the red sign |
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| 10:03.17 | spike | running kde 3.3.2, kmail 1.7.2 |
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| 10:03.45 | spike | is there a way to ignore as in hide threads? |
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| 10:14.39 | chimaera | anyone using metabar? v0.6 is supposed to have a configuration dialog, i just can't find it ;) |
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| 10:35.33 | mijenix | where I can set that I want double click not single click to open/run things? |
| 10:38.13 | xzz | mijenix: Control center, Peripherals, Mouse, Icons |
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| 10:40.50 | mijenix | xzz: thx |
| 10:41.09 | xzz | mijenix: np |
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| 10:44.57 | mijenix | xzz: u know where I can disable shadow of the desktop icons?= |
| 10:46.26 | xzz | hm, no, sorry |
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| 10:52.22 | Hoochie-Coochie- | Tpo1> !ping |
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| 10:53.25 | Hoochie-Coochie- | Tpo1> okay, I got qt installed. make install ignored DESTDIR=$PATH option, and I'd love to give it another try, but first I wanna know how to remove qt 3.4 installed from sources? |
| 10:54.11 | Cerulean | Tpo1: cd to the Qt directory then su -c 'make uninstall' |
| 10:54.20 | Cerulean | Qt 3.4 source directory, that is. |
| 10:54.33 | Hoochie-Coochie- | it won't work, Cerulean |
| 10:54.48 | Cerulean | Hoochie-Coochie-: Why not? |
| 10:55.16 | Hoochie-Coochie- | sorry |
| 10:55.28 | Hoochie-Coochie- | thanks for the tip |
| 10:56.51 | Hoochie-Coochie- | erm.. no :) it doesn't do anything |
| 10:57.13 | Hoochie-Coochie- | it just goes through the dirs recursively (source tree) but doesn't remove the files |
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| 11:00.34 | mijenix | does anyone know how I can disable the shadow of the Icons on my desktop? |
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| 11:01.05 | canllaith | mijenix: right click on the desktop and select Configure Desktop |
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| 11:01.23 | canllaith | On the 'Background' section, click on Advanced Options |
| 11:01.35 | canllaith | Untick enable shadow on the dialog that appears |
| 11:02.34 | oleczek | how to cycle tru the tabs in konqi? |
| 11:02.46 | mijenix | canllaith: yes thx |
| 11:03.21 | Cerulean | oleczek: Put your mouse over the tab bar then scroll up/down. |
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| 11:03.38 | DexterF | ok, funny issue: I get kdm, provide passwd, kde strats loading, bang, kdm again. i login a second time, login, kde starts. |
| 11:04.07 | DexterF | wtf. now when i wanna start my mail client i get "bind: Address already in use" |
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| 11:04.13 | DexterF | I'm all ??? |
| 11:06.32 | oleczek | Cerulean: could you tell me without mouse? |
| 11:07.09 | Cerulean | oleczek: ctrl+] and ctrl+[ |
| 11:07.23 | Cerulean | to cycle left and right respectively |
| 11:07.26 | oleczek | great |
| 11:07.40 | oleczek | thanks! |
| 11:07.45 | Cerulean | pleasure |
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| 11:09.04 | mijenix | last question where I can disable desriptions for KDE menu entries? |
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| 11:16.30 | cartman | anyone who has web design experience and wants to help a KDE project? |
| 11:24.07 | oleczek | I would like to help, show me todos pls |
| 11:24.46 | cartman | oleczek: we need a new webpage for www.konversation.org |
| 11:24.48 | oleczek | ah -> design -> graphics, no, not that experience, can code |
| 11:24.56 | oleczek | will see |
| 11:25.40 | oleczek | huh |
| 11:25.40 | cartman | ah :/ |
| 11:25.40 | cartman | I need designers :) |
| 11:25.40 | cartman | coders are always welcome too ;) |
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| 11:25.57 | oleczek | do you want brand new layout or similar to something? |
| 11:26.11 | scrooge | designers!? |
| 11:26.12 | scrooge | :D |
| 11:26.26 | cartman | http://akregator.sf.net <-- kicks ass design imho |
| 11:26.56 | oleczek | css based |
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| 11:29.21 | cartman | ok |
| 11:29.24 | cartman | so? :) |
| 11:29.37 | oleczek | ok, no problem |
| 11:29.45 | oleczek | priv |
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| 11:33.16 | triablo_ | Hi |
| 11:33.55 | triablo_ | i have a problem getting aRts working...i think it's running, but how do i make apps use it instead of using /dev/dsp directly? |
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| 11:52.34 | *** topic/#kde is KDE 3.4 released | KDE FAQ: http://docs.kde.org/en/HEAD/kdebase/faq/ - the answer to your question might already be here! | Please don't flood the channel, use a paste service: http://rafb.net/paste | If you've just upgraded to 3.4 using Konstruct and your KDE has strange colours and symbols everywhere, check your $QTDIR ! |
| 11:52.48 | triablo_ | xzz: do you really think it's worth it? |
| 11:52.50 | thomaskorwed | anyone know any good pickup lines for hitting on girls? |
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| 11:53.05 | xzz | triablo_: I'll read the c-log |
| 11:53.24 | triablo_ | i doubt there is anything critical |
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| 11:54.24 | triablo_ | oops |
| 11:54.30 | triablo_ | duplicate screen |
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| 11:54.44 | triablo | =) |
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| 12:01.29 | Cerulean | Does QtParted support resizing of ext3 partitions? |
| 12:01.48 | Cerulean | I keep hearing people say it does, yes the features page at qtparted.sf.net says otherwise |
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| 12:06.35 | mad_moses | hi |
| 12:07.20 | mad_moses | must i install all pakets from here http://rpm.nyvalls.se/10.1/RPMS/kde-3.4.0/ to have kde 3.4? |
| 12:07.49 | scrooge | kde 3.4 minimal is arts, kdelibs and kdebase |
| 12:07.58 | scrooge | the rest are nice features to have :P |
| 12:08.31 | mad_moses | how i can install all with one command? or must i download all and manuel install? |
| 12:08.49 | scrooge | which distro do u use? |
| 12:08.59 | mad_moses | mdk 10.1 |
| 12:09.35 | scrooge | ahh |
| 12:09.43 | scrooge | does mandrake have a package manager? |
| 12:09.48 | scrooge | urpm or sumtin? |
| 12:09.50 | mad_moses | yes |
| 12:09.54 | scrooge | tried that? |
| 12:10.05 | mad_moses | urpm |
| 12:10.08 | mad_moses | i have |
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| 12:11.29 | mad_moses | scrooge, and now? |
| 12:12.08 | scrooge | i've never used mandrake recently |
| 12:12.15 | mad_moses | argh |
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| 12:12.51 | DexterF | why the HELL can't kde leave my frigging settings alone when upgrading? |
| 12:13.00 | scrooge | heh |
| 12:13.48 | DexterF | I'm so fed up with this, each time I upgrade I find myself rearranging fonts, looks and what's worse all my quick launchs *AGAIN* |
| 12:14.08 | DexterF | why aren't my launchers there anymore? |
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| 12:15.05 | DexterF | I don't feel the slightest urge to spend two hours searching/creating them all again! this sucks! |
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| 12:15.53 | cartman | re |
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| 12:16.46 | willwork4foo | Hi... my flashplayer isn't working at all in Firefox 1.0.2 in KDE 3.4... has anyone else seen this problem? I'm using a freshly downloaded flash player 7 |
| 12:17.13 | cartman | willwork4foo: does it show up in about:plugins |
| 12:17.13 | cartman | ? |
| 12:17.45 | willwork4foo | cartman: yes it does. Actually (sorry I'm not very awake right now) it works partially - it plays animation but I get no audio |
| 12:17.49 | willwork4foo | (sorry) |
| 12:18.13 | cartman | willwork4foo: ah thats because you need to start it like --> artsdsp firefox |
| 12:18.23 | DexterF | and what idiot thought up those tool tips in the taskbar the size of friggin' Ohio? |
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| 12:18.59 | DexterF | what happened to my konsole font? |
| 12:19.16 | DexterF | back to 3.3.2 and old config, to hell with bleeding edge |
| 12:19.34 | crazeecanuck | hehe |
| 12:19.38 | willwork4foo | cartman: cool - thanks! |
| 12:19.49 | cartman | willwork4foo: np |
| 12:21.07 | scrooge | wow |
| 12:21.16 | scrooge | thats just...*dumbfounded* |
| 12:21.33 | willwork4foo | scrooge: ? |
| 12:22.01 | scrooge | the dexter d00d |
| 12:22.02 | scrooge | lol |
| 12:22.21 | crazeecanuck | yeah, that's what my "hehe" was in regards to as well.... |
| 12:22.27 | crazeecanuck | bloody fscktard |
| 12:22.31 | scrooge | LOL |
| 12:22.50 | willwork4foo | ah that |
| 12:22.53 | willwork4foo | LOL |
| 12:22.55 | willwork4foo | I missed it |
| 12:22.58 | scrooge | lmfao |
| 12:23.02 | scrooge | omfg...that was good |
| 12:23.02 | scrooge | haha |
| 12:23.40 | willwork4foo | I've recently moved back several kernel revisions tho... |
| 12:23.44 | willwork4foo | I'm now on 2.6.10 |
| 12:24.02 | scrooge | 2.6.11.6! |
| 12:24.23 | willwork4foo | for some reason, the touchpad on my laptop doesn't work properly at all in any 2.6.11.x kernels |
| 12:24.50 | scrooge | heh. i've problems with 2.6.11 also...ati-drivers wont compile for chicken poo |
| 12:24.53 | willwork4foo | the movement is erratic, and the tap-to-click doesn't work unless I tap the mousepad hard enough to hurt my finger |
| 12:24.58 | scrooge | desktop works flawlessly |
| 12:25.05 | scrooge | heh |
| 12:28.37 | cartman | oleczek: any news? |
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| 12:30.16 | aum | hi - does konq have multi-row tabs yet? |
| 12:32.07 | scrooge | multi row tabs...sounds like a nice feature |
| 12:32.16 | scrooge | first no tabs, then tabs, now double tabs! |
| 12:32.22 | aum | Firefox has it (with a plugin) |
| 12:32.26 | scrooge | oh |
| 12:32.34 | scrooge | konq doesnt have it that i know of |
| 12:32.35 | aum | multiple tab rows are Web Browsing Heaven |
| 12:32.40 | scrooge | lol |
| 12:32.51 | scrooge | i must try it one day |
| 12:33.49 | cartman | aum: eh? |
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| 12:34.35 | aum | tab rows are a feature where, when there are too many tabs to fit on one row, the tab bar expands into multiple rows |
| 12:35.11 | aum | for instance, i've got 24 tabs open in my current FireFox session, and can read the titles of all of them |
| 12:36.42 | crazeecanuck | is that the "tab mix" extension? |
| 12:37.02 | aum | yep |
| 12:37.15 | crazeecanuck | excellent..ty google ^^ |
| 12:37.27 | crazeecanuck | and aum, of course....never heard of that |
| 12:39.13 | aum | is there any plan for konq to get something similar? |
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| 12:42.24 | hgoesm | hi |
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| 12:46.14 | Manny | hi |
| 12:46.33 | Manny | shouldn't KScreenSaver install its screensavers under /usr/share/applications instead of /usr/share/applnk? |
| 12:48.00 | Manny | also, KAppFinder seems to install files to applnk |
| 12:48.05 | Manny | at least in debian/unstable |
| 12:48.18 | ataxic | thats a nice feature , the tab extension thing for firefox , thanx for that |
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| 13:04.25 | Zeep | hey guys |
| 13:04.55 | xzz | hi |
| 13:05.27 | Zeep | Hi Leute |
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| 13:23.20 | r00tsh3ll | morning guys.. |
| 13:23.27 | slayerbob | so it is |
| 13:25.31 | mijenix | guys I need |
| 13:25.33 | mijenix | help |
| 13:25.46 | cartman | mijenix: just ask |
| 13:25.53 | mijenix | where I can disable the description from the menu entries in the KMenu? |
| 13:26.09 | r00tsh3ll | panel config |
| 13:26.25 | Bille | Kcontrol, Desktop, Panels, Menus, K Menu |
| 13:26.26 | cartman | mijenix: Settings->Configure Panel |
| 13:26.41 | r00tsh3ll | panel menu/ configure panel/ appearance |
| 13:26.53 | xuesheng | mijenix: wow, that was a tough one :P |
| 13:27.00 | mijenix | r00tsh3ll: where? |
| 13:27.07 | Bille | r00tsh3ll: menus, not appearance |
| 13:27.17 | xuesheng | mijenix: I thought your life was in danger when you sayed 'guys, I need help...' ;) |
| 13:27.37 | mijenix | xuesheng: thats true I can't sleep when I don't disable it |
| 13:27.51 | xuesheng | ha ha ha |
| 13:27.52 | r00tsh3ll | mijenix, right click over the menu.. |
| 13:28.43 | mijenix | cartman: and then? |
| 13:28.50 | mijenix | can't find anything |
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| 13:29.23 | r00tsh3ll | just click in 'name only' |
| 13:29.33 | mijenix | OHH DAMN I'M FUCKING BLIND! |
| 13:29.47 | mijenix | now I can sleep |
| 13:29.54 | r00tsh3ll | ehhe |
| 13:29.59 | r00tsh3ll | have nice dreams.. |
| 13:30.30 | r00tsh3ll | Bille, thats true i thought he was talking about those damn mouseover effects.. |
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| 13:44.36 | willwork4foo | hey... is anyone in ##slackware? |
| 13:44.46 | willwork4foo | I just got banned and I have no idea why! |
| 13:45.49 | slayerbob | lol |
| 13:45.53 | slayerbob | what did you do ? |
| 13:47.05 | willwork4foo | nothin man! |
| 13:47.08 | willwork4foo | nixor banned me |
| 13:47.12 | willwork4foo | nixor's a bot I think |
| 13:47.18 | slayerbob | lol |
| 13:47.20 | willwork4foo | can someone unban me? |
| 13:47.24 | slayerbob | maybe it was an inactivity ban :P |
| 13:47.32 | willwork4foo | I'd just joined |
| 13:47.33 | willwork4foo | :( |
| 13:47.37 | slayerbob | ah there you go then :P |
| 13:47.43 | willwork4foo | ?? |
| 13:47.45 | slayerbob | joining must be a bannable offense :P |
| 13:47.49 | willwork4foo | must be. |
| 13:47.52 | slayerbob | :P |
| 13:48.01 | willwork4foo | seriously dude... can you get me unbanned? |
| 13:48.05 | slayerbob | if you wait 5 minutes it will probably unban you |
| 13:48.07 | willwork4foo | oh ok |
| 13:48.12 | slayerbob | i do not know anything about #slackware |
| 13:48.20 | slayerbob | i tend to avoid distro channels |
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| 13:49.26 | willwork4foo | so - a question for linuxy people who do wireless networking... what's the fastest wireless PCI card that works nicely in Linux? |
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| 13:50.56 | willwork4foo | anyone? |
| 13:51.02 | Marrs|vroc | I have no PCI wireless cards, only PCMCIA. |
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| 13:51.10 | callipygous | kde still comes with noatun? |
| 13:51.14 | willwork4foo | callipygous: yep |
| 13:51.22 | callipygous | can I remove it? |
| 13:51.26 | callipygous | because like i hate it |
| 13:51.29 | willwork4foo | I suppose so! |
| 13:51.34 | willwork4foo | callipygous: you can just set KDE to not use it... |
| 13:51.39 | callipygous | yah? |
| 13:51.41 | willwork4foo | slightly less drastic |
| 13:51.52 | callipygous | cus it never plays anything for me :P |
| 13:52.08 | willwork4foo | callipygous: it works absolutely fine for me. |
| 13:52.09 | callipygous | just never :P |
| 13:52.13 | willwork4foo | what distro you using callipygous? |
| 13:52.19 | callipygous | no distro |
| 13:52.22 | callipygous | freebsd |
| 13:52.30 | willwork4foo | callipygous: that'll be why it doesn't work... |
| 13:52.31 | willwork4foo | :) |
| 13:52.34 | callipygous | but it was the same on every linux ive used |
| 13:52.42 | callipygous | mplayer/xine == works well |
| 13:52.44 | willwork4foo | callipygous: I use slackware 10.1 and it works absolutely fine |
| 13:52.54 | callipygous | noatun/kaboodle not so good |
| 13:53.03 | callipygous | do you watch crappy .avi's? |
| 13:53.07 | willwork4foo | wtf... I'm still fscking banned from ##slackware.... GRRR |
| 13:53.14 | callipygous | and dodgy ass .wmv's? |
| 13:53.21 | callipygous | banned, gah, nazi's |
| 13:53.33 | willwork4foo | callipygous: I watch all sorts of media - WMV, mpg, mpeg, avi, and so on |
| 13:53.38 | willwork4foo | they all work fine for me. |
| 13:54.19 | callipygous | never worked for me |
| 13:54.22 | callipygous | ..ever |
| 13:54.31 | callipygous | occasionally, yes, but rarely, even on linux |
| 13:55.06 | callipygous | im glad that kde's default theme is plastik tho |
| 13:55.07 | willwork4foo | callipygous: maybe you're just unlucky |
| 13:55.13 | callipygous | nah, i doubt it :P |
| 13:55.16 | callipygous | im very lucky |
| 13:55.22 | willwork4foo | I tried to put FreeBSD 5.3 on my Ultra 10 sparc box yesterday |
| 13:55.31 | willwork4foo | that sucked royally |
| 13:55.37 | callipygous | and also what about permanantly removing (or disabling) artsd? |
| 13:55.38 | willwork4foo | the installer didn't even work properly |
| 13:55.45 | callipygous | yeah? |
| 13:55.51 | callipygous | darn |
| 13:55.51 | willwork4foo | yep. |
| 13:56.01 | callipygous | well fbsd isn't perfect |
| 13:56.08 | willwork4foo | agreed there. |
| 13:56.13 | willwork4foo | Slackware is. |
| 13:56.14 | willwork4foo | imho |
| 13:56.22 | callipygous | haha nah |
| 13:56.30 | callipygous | its nice, but no package management |
| 13:56.39 | willwork4foo | callipygous: yes it sodding does |
| 13:56.40 | callipygous | i think you can install your own, but i never have |
| 13:56.46 | willwork4foo | go look at www.linuxpackages.net |
| 13:56.47 | callipygous | oh what? pkg_add ;P |
| 13:56.50 | willwork4foo | slackware packages |
| 13:57.00 | willwork4foo | and it's not pkg_add, it's installpkg |
| 13:57.03 | willwork4foo | and pkgtool |
| 13:57.06 | callipygous | yeah, that one |
| 13:57.13 | callipygous | no dependency handling tho |
| 13:57.19 | willwork4foo | callipygous: see swaret |
| 13:57.26 | willwork4foo | swaret handles dependencies nicely |
| 13:57.28 | callipygous | well yeah, unless you install it yourself |
| 13:57.34 | willwork4foo | callipygous: so what? |
| 13:57.36 | callipygous | but by default, anyway, doesn't matter i like slackware |
| 13:57.39 | callipygous | but its not perfect |
| 13:57.46 | willwork4foo | yah it is - for my needs |
| 13:58.04 | callipygous | linux was good for my needs, but it pissed me off in some areas |
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| 13:58.13 | callipygous | whcih brings me to disabling arts |
| 13:58.18 | callipygous | how do you do it>? |
| 13:58.30 | willwork4foo | no idea. I've never wanted to be that violent towards KDE |
| 13:59.05 | callipygous | but arts is horrible |
| 13:59.08 | willwork4foo | why? |
| 13:59.33 | callipygous | because, it crashes, applications don't use it by default.. |
| 13:59.41 | willwork4foo | callipygous: works fine for me |
| 13:59.50 | callipygous | and i don't need it! |
| 13:59.59 | callipygous | why do i need some software mixing? |
| 14:00.01 | callipygous | i don't :P |
| 14:00.14 | willwork4foo | stop bellyaching dude |
| 14:00.30 | callipygous | i just want to turn it off |
| 14:00.32 | callipygous | its annoying |
| 14:01.14 | willwork4foo | well - people who bellyache about KDE components are annoying... :) |
| 14:01.16 | callipygous | sound on linux is messy enuff without arts |
| 14:01.23 | callipygous | no need for it on fbsd |
| 14:01.31 | callipygous | its all done transparently in-kernel |
| 14:01.55 | callipygous | no arts, esd, dmix, jack or any other sound daemon, yay |
| 14:04.02 | willwork4foo | is anyone in here also in ##slackware? can they please do me a massive favour?? |
| 14:05.00 | willwork4foo | could they please get an op to unban me? |
| 14:05.48 | Bille | willwork4foo: oops, what did you do? |
| 14:06.10 | willwork4foo | Bille: I joined the channel. |
| 14:06.15 | willwork4foo | Bille: I have no idea what I did! |
| 14:06.39 | Bille | that's not nice. did you get your ldap working? |
| 14:06.41 | willwork4foo | really weird. |
| 14:07.16 | willwork4foo | Bille: no not yet - but I'm not going to worry about that because thunderbird takes care of that. I am using Kmail for my own personal mail and Thunderbird for work |
| 14:08.05 | Bille | willwork4foo: it's working nicely here, thanks for prompting me to fettle it |
| 14:08.07 | willwork4foo | Bille: pm? |
| 14:08.18 | callipygous | yeah, kmails pretty good |
| 14:08.37 | willwork4foo | kmail is good. but it doesn't play nicely with IMAP stuff |
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| 14:09.00 | ralf | Ciao |
| 14:10.29 | callipygous | that gpl flash player blows : |
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| 14:10.51 | callipygous | yeah, fonts in konqueror are looking shite for me atm...maybe antialiasing isn't no properly yet |
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| 14:11.34 | callipygous | i mean on |
| 14:11.42 | sarah03 | Mm, it's not Konqueror. Anti-aliasing is fine everywhere; it's that I have a choice of having my desktop run at 64dpi or 90dpi. |
| 14:11.47 | Bille | willwork4foo: what's the matter? |
| 14:11.57 | matt_ | hi, can somebody please tell me how to get splash screens working, i have downloaded a few tar.gz's with Theme.rc's in them, but when i click add on the splash screen control bit and browse to the dir it dosn't see anything |
| 14:12.34 | callipygous | id go with 90 |
| 14:13.04 | callipygous | can konqueror use libflash |
| 14:13.14 | sarah03 | callipygous: Which doesn't work out very well on a 17" monitor running 800x600. [Shitty secondary video card, combined with Xinerama only working in a single bit depth.] |
| 14:13.20 | willwork4foo | Bille: just wanted to get some help getting unbanned in ##slackware |
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| 14:13.58 | Bille | willwork4foo: i have less influence there than a half-arsed fart |
| 14:14.41 | callipygous | ##slackware really sucks |
| 14:14.41 | willwork4foo | Bille: you have more influence than me |
| 14:14.49 | callipygous | don't waste your time with such a homosexual channel |
| 14:15.26 | willwork4foo | callipygous: screw you dude... lots of my friends are in there. |
| 14:15.44 | willwork4foo | Bille: you're in the channel at the moment, and I'm not. hence you have more influence |
| 14:15.51 | willwork4foo | can you just say something to an Op? |
| 14:16.02 | Bille | willwork4foo: /whois Bille |
| 14:16.25 | richmoore | willwork4foo: i don't think this is really relevent to #kde, you guys want to use /msg instead? |
| 14:16.33 | callipygous | its still a crap channel |
| 14:16.36 | willwork4foo | richmoore: sorry. |
| 14:16.39 | callipygous | only crap channels ban for no reason |
| 14:16.40 | willwork4foo | callipygous: sod off? |
| 14:16.48 | callipygous | oh thats not nice |
| 14:16.50 | callipygous | and you know it |
| 14:17.05 | willwork4foo | neither is being negative about other IRC channels. |
| 14:17.16 | callipygous | oh no? |
| 14:17.21 | callipygous | i can say it |
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| 14:22.35 | callipygous | so, how can i permanently disable arts? |
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| 14:24.39 | callipygous | so, how can i permanently disable arts? |
| 14:24.41 | xzz | eg 'R_M /usr/kde/3.4/bin/arts*', where R_M = rm, :P |
| 14:24.42 | callipygous | oops sorry |
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| 14:25.05 | callipygous | yeah, good solution |
| 14:25.14 | callipygous | except every second application will bitch |
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| 14:29.08 | fangel | whats the app to zoom the desktop called? |
| 14:29.25 | jsubl2 | is there some place in kde i can tell it to put my desktop icons on the left |
| 14:29.35 | callipygous | xmag |
| 14:29.51 | callipygous | tho you might be after something kde specific, so i dunno |
| 14:30.02 | callipygous | doesn't it do that jsubl2 ? |
| 14:30.07 | callipygous | i always wanted them on the right |
| 14:30.23 | jsubl2 | they keep wantting to go on the left side top |
| 14:30.28 | jsubl2 | i want right side bottom |
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| 14:31.11 | fangel | callipygous: yep, there is a KDE app that follows the mouse, but heck, it worked |
| 14:31.29 | fangel | (you know its damm hard to sport a 1px off between white and light-grey) |
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| 14:33.29 | callipygous | yeah, i know :P |
| 14:33.33 | callipygous | i do graphics a lot |
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| 14:33.51 | fubar71 | havin that strange colors and symbols in kde3.,4. how to fix? |
| 14:33.57 | AnotherData | anyone here use digikam? |
| 14:35.29 | AnotherData | i know this problem aint for this channel, to ask on but i cant get any help elsewhere |
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| 14:37.58 | AnotherData | but i am having probs getting it to connect |
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| 14:44.45 | fubar73 | bit of a newbie here. compiled kde 3.4. everything went ok. started up but i am having that weird symbol/color problem. how do i fix?? |
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| 14:45.54 | Bille | fubar73: green and red characters in menus etc? |
| 14:46.00 | fubar73 | yeah |
| 14:47.51 | Bille | fubar73: bits of an old Qt or kde mixed up in your install, so you've loaded an old kde style |
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| 14:48.26 | fubar73 | is there any fix for it? |
| 14:49.02 | Bille | did you rebuild qt as well as kde? and did you clean the install dirs for both? |
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| 14:49.38 | fubar73 | no didn't rebuild qt |
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| 14:59.43 | Bille | fubar73: ok, then you probably have some old kde style plugin in the install dir |
| 14:59.58 | Bille | fubar73: you could try switching styles in kcontrol |
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| 15:00.20 | Bille | fubar73: are you using a 3rd party style that needs rebuilt? |
| 15:00.44 | ImNotMark | can kde 3.4 run any kde 3.x theme? |
| 15:00.45 | fubar73 | not sure |
| 15:01.01 | ImNotMark | kde-look doent seem to have many kde 3.4 themes |
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| 15:01.48 | nitro25 | in channel topic it says check $QTDIR...what are they refering to?? |
| 15:02.48 | ysm | in console, write echo $QTDIR |
| 15:02.58 | ImNotMark | i dont see much of a difference from kde 3.3.2 to kde 3.4 |
| 15:03.28 | ImNotMark | wish they had a new icon set tho |
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| 15:05.27 | ImNotMark | any ideas when i set my taskbar to only show minimized windows they dissapear? |
| 15:05.29 | PieD | ImNotMark: you can change your icon set ! |
| 15:05.39 | ImNotMark | PieD i know |
| 15:05.50 | PieD | right click on the taskbar : |
| 15:05.55 | ImNotMark | but it would be nice if they changed the default ones, these are getting old |
| 15:06.00 | PieD | configure "taskbar" |
| 15:06.02 | nitro25 | ysm: it says /usr/lib/qt3 ... take it that is wrong? |
| 15:06.16 | PieD | ImNotMark: they are a bit renewed |
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| 15:06.55 | ImNotMark | PieD yesh i turnd off the show only minimized windows but thats not what i want |
| 15:07.06 | ysm | do you have this kind of directory in /usr/lib/qt3 bin doc etc include lib mkspecs phrasebooks plugins templates translations ? |
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| 15:07.14 | PieD | what do you want ? |
| 15:07.14 | ImNotMark | i want it to only shopw windows in the taskbar if there minimized, but it dont work |
| 15:07.32 | PieD | don't work ? |
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| 15:07.42 | ImNotMark | they dissapear when minimized |
| 15:07.57 | PieD | here it works perfectly |
| 15:08.10 | PieD | (but I hate this behaviour) |
| 15:08.15 | nitro25 | ysm: that i do |
| 15:08.40 | nitro25 | have those in 2 locations though |
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| 15:09.01 | gregday | 3.4 is so nice |
| 15:09.04 | ImNotMark | most distros i worked with have it /usr/qt |
| 15:09.32 | ysm | ImNotMark: right click on the taskbar, look at taskbar config, and uncheck "Show only miminized windows" ? |
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| 15:09.52 | nitro25 | so this is what is happening the export QTDIR=~/kde3.4 is not being set then |
| 15:10.01 | ImNotMark | ysm if you were reading what i said, i want it to only show minimized windows |
| 15:10.18 | nitro25 | if echo $QTDIR is pointing to /usr/lib/qt3? |
| 15:10.19 | ImNotMark | but it isnt working properly |
| 15:10.41 | ysm | mine is pointing to /usr/lib/qt-3.3 in fc3 |
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| 15:11.13 | nitro25 | hmmm |
| 15:11.44 | nitro25 | export QTDIR=~/kde3.4 mean? |
| 15:11.53 | ysm | ImNotMark: check it, uncheck it work weel here |
| 15:11.57 | ysm | wll |
| 15:12.02 | ysm | dah... well |
| 15:12.24 | nitro25 | i thought it was like setting the $PATH |
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| 15:12.32 | nitro25 | except for lib files |
| 15:12.41 | ysm | yeah, same thing |
| 15:12.47 | jose__ | what module has the video previews for konqueror? |
| 15:12.53 | nitro25 | ahhh ok |
| 15:13.04 | ysm | an environment variable |
| 15:13.26 | nitro25 | so if konstruct installed kde in ~/kde3.4 then my echo should read ~/kde3.4 as well? |
| 15:13.41 | nitro25 | with ~being my full home path |
| 15:14.00 | ysm | ~/kde3.4 should be the path for $KDEDIR I think |
| 15:14.30 | nitro25 | ahh ok...thanks ysm! |
| 15:14.32 | jose__ | i'm thinking either some module in kdeaddons or kdemultimedia but I dunno which one |
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| 15:15.50 | ysm | nitro25, do this command locate libqt.so and look in which directory the file is under |
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| 15:16.32 | nitro25 | have to updatedb first |
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| 15:19.39 | PEACEYALL | anyone know where is the network browser in kde? |
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| 15:22.53 | ysm | konqueror, location: remote:/ |
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| 15:23.51 | nitro25 | ysm: locate shows nothing |
| 15:24.18 | nitro25 | for libqt.so |
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| 15:27.34 | ysm | did you install qt before ? |
| 15:28.08 | jakroo99 | hey all |
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| 15:28.30 | stick_figure | How does one navigate kontact without a mouse? |
| 15:28.30 | peaceyall | how do i send a file via b;uetooth in KDE, in gnome i just used to right click on the file and click send via bluetooth but in KDE I cant find that option , how do i send? |
| 15:28.39 | stick_figure | using tab and arrow keys is not working |
| 15:28.54 | ysm | if not, I think konstruct README talk about a configuration item when, you say "I don't have qt" and I want that konstruct build it... |
| 15:29.15 | nitro25 | qt is installed |
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| 15:31.52 | nitro25 | maybe if i put the export QTDIR=~/kde3.4 into my .bash_profile file |
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| 15:42.39 | Tpo1 | 'mornin` |
| 15:42.59 | Tpo1 | konstruct is still goin' strong, I see |
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| 15:50.48 | nitro25 | after running konstruct do i run those exports as root or as the usrer running konstruct? |
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| 16:00.55 | madpenguin8 | hi |
| 16:01.35 | madpenguin8 | anyone know what the --embed flag does with kdialog |
| 16:02.08 | madpenguin8 | I read the --help, but I'm not sure what the description means |
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| 16:06.03 | ryanoe | Could someone please help me with my scrollbars in KDE? |
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| 16:09.03 | SadEagle | ryanoe: what about them? |
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| 16:21.12 | ryanoe | SadEagle |
| 16:21.18 | ryanoe | You know MotifPlus theme ? |
| 16:21.20 | ryanoe | In KDE? |
| 16:21.24 | SadEagle | in Qt. |
| 16:21.26 | ryanoe | Well some of my applications have that |
| 16:21.28 | ryanoe | in QT |
| 16:21.30 | ryanoe | yea |
| 16:21.39 | SadEagle | some? which ones? |
| 16:22.12 | ryanoe | Well I want Mozilla to show that MotifPLus theme again |
| 16:22.45 | SadEagle | eh. Mozilla is not a KDE app, it doesn't use Qt look. |
| 16:23.43 | ryanoe | Hmm |
| 16:23.45 | ryanoe | What about Xchat? |
| 16:23.58 | ryanoe | Can I make Mozilla use the QT look? |
| 16:25.20 | jcurry | if you have 3.3+, look in the control center; appearence > gtk styles and fonts |
| 16:25.38 | SadEagle | jcurry: that's not part of any KDE version |
| 16:25.44 | ryanoe | I have 3.3 |
| 16:25.47 | ryanoe | I know |
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| 16:25.59 | ryanoe | When I look in there the Motif PLus style is setup in there |
| 16:26.02 | ryanoe | Not a problem |
| 16:26.07 | jcurry | SadEagle, my mistake |
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| 16:28.40 | ryanoe | Hmm |
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| 16:29.00 | ryanoe | Is there a way to force Xchat and Mozilla to show that QT scrollbar instead of the default one? |
| 16:29.33 | oleczek | build mozilla with qt? |
| 16:30.15 | jcurry | oleczek, oooh, harsh. :) |
| 16:30.54 | ryanoe | and /or Xchat |
| 16:30.58 | ryanoe | so it has QT enabled |
| 16:31.24 | oleczek | try konversation? |
| 16:31.58 | jcurry | konversation is da bomb |
| 16:34.03 | ryanoe | What does konversation do with QT? |
| 16:34.20 | jcurry | uses it |
| 16:36.25 | PieD | Qt provides the toolkit |
| 16:36.39 | PieD | without Qt, how do you want your KDE apps to draw their windows ? |
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| 16:39.52 | ryanoe | So wieh konversion I can make Mozilla, Xchat and others have the QT look? |
| 16:39.56 | ryanoe | with scrollbars, etc? |
| 16:40.08 | PieD | ??? |
| 16:40.20 | jcurry | no! |
| 16:40.22 | PieD | konversation is a KDE application |
| 16:40.27 | PieD | it is an IRC client |
| 16:40.35 | jcurry | ryanoe, konversation is a kde app like xchat |
| 16:40.36 | ryanoe | Well I was asking how I could make mozilla and xchat have the same look as other QT apps |
| 16:40.39 | ryanoe | Oh |
| 16:40.42 | jcurry | it lets you ... chat. |
| 16:40.46 | ryanoe | it sounded IRC oriented :) |
| 16:40.48 | PieD | you can use it instead of xchat |
| 16:41.02 | ryanoe | So how can I accomplish what I want to accomplish? |
| 16:41.08 | PieD | but you can __try__ to give your gtk apps a Qt look with gtk-qt |
| 16:41.19 | ysm | ryanoe: you rewrite all the xchat code ? |
| 16:41.26 | PieD | (and you can recompile mozilla with the qt toolkit, but it is even less stable) |
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| 16:43.23 | jcurry | 'lo s |
| 16:43.28 | jcurry | nice nick |
| 16:43.50 | ryanoe | PieD, really |
| 16:43.51 | ryanoe | ? |
| 16:44.21 | PieD | yes, you can -try- to give them a Qt look |
| 16:44.26 | PieD | but it is not perfect |
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| 16:45.02 | PieD | you could also recompile OpenOffice with the Qt toolkit, but it is always less good than KOffice for KDE integration :) |
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| 16:53.53 | MaNI | what would cause some1 talknig to me in kopetes font to show up really large? ;/ |
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| 17:18.12 | PieD | I really hate the distributions which explodes KDE in hundreds of packages ! |
| 17:28.01 | oleg__ | hi, everybody |
| 17:28.10 | MaNI | pied which distro would that be? |
| 17:28.18 | PieD | Debian |
| 17:28.25 | oleg__ | Sorry if the question is stupid, but can we already download the alpha versions of kde 4.0? |
| 17:28.44 | PieD | there is nothing done for KDE 4.0 :) |
| 17:28.53 | PieD | you can download the beta of Qt 4 |
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| 17:33.32 | Kingeir | hi |
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| 17:45.31 | kilrae | i'm running kde 4.0 |
| 17:45.59 | r00tsh3ll | o.O |
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| 17:46.13 | kilrae | you just need the gimp and a text editor |
| 17:46.24 | mfx- | :DD |
| 17:46.28 | r00tsh3ll | ehe :-p |
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| 17:56.06 | nick01 | hi |
| 17:56.40 | nick01 | I just installed flash ; firefox works fine; how about konqueror ? what path do I need to add to make it find it ? |
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| 17:57.35 | PieD | nick01: theorically, nothing to set :) |
| 17:57.42 | nick01 | :/ |
| 17:57.47 | PieD | Confiugration > Configure Konqueror |
| 17:57.51 | Quinn_Storm | nick01: just point it to wherever the firefox plugin is... |
| 17:57.55 | PieD | Plugins |
| 17:58.07 | nick01 | I don't know where they are |
| 17:58.11 | PieD | and then you add the right location |
| 17:58.15 | PieD | installed by firefox ? |
| 17:58.19 | nick01 | no |
| 17:58.27 | nick01 | by mandrake rpm- repeckaged |
| 17:58.29 | nick01 | http://macromedia.mplug.org/rep_uh.html |
| 17:58.36 | nick01 | repackaged |
| 17:58.37 | PieD | it might be auto-detected |
| 17:58.48 | PieD | check the found plugins list |
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| 17:59.01 | nick01 | I tried "search for plugins" or something |
| 17:59.09 | nick01 | no plugins there |
| 17:59.31 | PieD | ask firefox for the plugin location : |
| 17:59.38 | PieD | type about:plugins in firefox |
| 18:00.22 | nick01 | MIME Type Description Suffixes Enabled |
| 18:00.22 | nick01 | application/x-shockwave-flash Shockwave Flash swf Yes |
| 18:00.22 | nick01 | application/futuresplash FutureSplash Player spl Yes |
| 18:00.58 | nick01 | it doesn't say where they are |
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| 18:03.08 | nick01 | found it |
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| 18:14.40 | codifex | Hello |
| 18:15.20 | codifex | I'm having trouble with kdeprintd in KDE 3.3.2 |
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| 18:27.44 | Tpo1 | Its going on 13 hours, and its only up to Kdevelop! |
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| 18:29.19 | emergo | I boughtmy first dvd rw plate the other day... I wrote once on it with k3b, but cant find how to delete it or format or what its called. |
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| 18:39.13 | phh | hi |
| 18:39.36 | phh | PieD, bouh |
| 18:39.50 | PieD | hi phh |
| 18:40.29 | phh | I have a kde compiled by the hand (more or less), and the libs got are bigger than the one compared to a "safe" system (ho a PieD ) |
| 18:40.44 | phh | Can it come from that it has been compiled with debug? |
| 18:41.03 | phh | And is debug activated by default is --disable-debug isn't specified |
| 18:41.14 | PieD | my safe system : Ubuntu, with KDE 3.4 |
| 18:41.41 | phh | PieD, s/safe/"safe"/ please :p |
| 18:41.42 | apokryphos | PieD: I never knew ;-). Cool. |
| 18:41.55 | PieD | apokryphos: it is a recent change (24 hours old ;) |
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| 18:43.22 | phh | I'm trying to recompile whole kde without debug but if i can have a confirmation before that :) |
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| 18:43.40 | apokryphos | PieD: many have reported problems with the last 2days worth of dist-upgrades. You have problems with it? |
| 18:43.52 | PieD | no problem here |
| 18:43.58 | PieD | but I was using hoary |
| 18:44.02 | apokryphos | Cool |
| 18:44.10 | apokryphos | yeah, 3.4 is only out on hoary |
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| 18:44.18 | apokryphos | kubuntu |
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| 18:48.32 | Pete | i'm upgrading this debian-unstable to kde 3.4 at the moment. Any tips or problems I can expect ? |
| 18:49.09 | gde | hi ... its possible to use kde 3.3 on a pentiun 233 mmx with 64 Mb of RAM ? |
| 18:49.26 | Pete | 3.4 is ex |
| 18:49.47 | phh | gde, bah with swap everything's possible |
| 18:50.21 | phh | gde, i think better to try 3.4 while it consume less ram (confirm me please) |
| 18:51.47 | Dhraakellian | it'd be slow, but doable |
| 18:52.20 | Dhraakellian | or such is my guess, at any rate |
| 18:52.50 | gde | Dhraakellian: but it will be usable or extremaly slow ? |
| 18:52.58 | Dhraakellian | that I do not know |
| 18:53.15 | chavo | gde, my guess is that it would be unbearably slow |
| 18:53.34 | phh | chavo, i think it's useable |
| 18:53.46 | phh | if you as low as possible eye candies option |
| 18:53.53 | chavo | sure if you only open one app at a time |
| 18:53.54 | Dhraakellian | I used to use kde 3.1.x with a 2.4 kernel on a 400MHz celeron with 128MB RAM |
| 18:54.10 | phh | chavo, yep :D |
| 18:54.30 | Dhraakellian | faster hardware, but slower kernel and slower KDE version |
| 18:55.49 | gde | i will install something faster and then i install and test kde ... but what can i install ? |
| 18:56.06 | phh | fvwm? |
| 18:56.06 | gde | i never used another wm |
| 18:56.07 | phh | fluxbox? |
| 18:56.10 | phh | gno |
| 18:56.12 | phh | nothing |
| 18:56.12 | phh | :D |
| 18:56.40 | phh | and gnome is something slower than kde |
| 18:56.55 | gde | i hate gnome ! ;) |
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| 18:57.02 | phh | gde, you too? |
| 18:57.06 | phh | :) |
| 18:57.37 | gde | well ... tkz ... |
| 18:57.55 | Dhraakellian | I understand that some people like it |
| 18:57.56 | ireverentReveren | hello, how would i go about mapping the volume keys on my laptop to control the volume in kde? |
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| 18:58.17 | Dhraakellian | but where as they call gnome's control center and such "simple," I call it "simplistic" |
| 18:58.20 | phh | ireverentReveren, when you use xev |
| 18:58.26 | phh | the key is found or not? |
| 18:58.50 | ireverentReveren | 10Y15eah |
| 18:59.42 | phh | ireverentReveren, so in kcontrol |
| 18:59.49 | phh | acessibility |
| 18:59.53 | phh | khotkeys |
| 19:00.23 | ireverentReveren | 0Ò8k3Í9è 4Ð11ø7K12î13É |
| 19:00.34 | ireverentReveren | thanks, i was looking under sound and multimedia |
| 19:00.49 | anhi | there is one thing i really miss: a decent DVD booklet/inlay/cover designer for linux. has anyone found one yet? |
| 19:01.26 | phh | anhi, never searched :p |
| 19:02.50 | ireverentReveren | phh, i guess i am missing how i map the keypress to the sound control... |
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| 19:03.11 | Flendor | Hello! :D |
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| 19:04.03 | affan | hi all, KDM says root logins are not allowed... can I allow them? |
| 19:04.15 | phh | affan, yep |
| 19:04.18 | phh | in user go to kcontrol |
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| 19:04.34 | kilrae | asfhgaekljfhaklsjdbgflaiergtiladfbgklasjdbgtr |
| 19:04.36 | kilrae | damnit |
| 19:04.54 | kilrae | one of my hard drives died |
| 19:04.54 | phh | admin -> connection (it's french here don't sure what's that) |
| 19:05.00 | phh | go to super admin user |
| 19:05.13 | phh | users |
| 19:05.16 | phh | and see |
| 19:05.16 | affan | yeah i done that :).. then? |
| 19:05.36 | phh | affan, apply and it doesn't work? |
| 19:06.30 | phh | ireverentReveren, new action; type = shortcut -> what you want |
| 19:06.51 | phh | tab shortcut |
| 19:06.56 | phh | you can select the key |
| 19:07.48 | ireverentReveren | ok, i will try that |
| 19:10.36 | ireverentReveren | it doesnt seem to let me enter the volume keys as valid shortcut keys |
| 19:10.42 | ireverentReveren | ie it ignores the input... |
| 19:11.58 | apokryphos | ireverentReveren: if it ignores the input and goes back, it means the shortcut is already taken, generally. |
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| 19:12.45 | kyr0_ | hey all |
| 19:13.02 | ireverentReveren | well, the volume keys dont have any characters assosiated with them... so when i try and enter them, the screen just sits there looking at me... |
| 19:14.37 | kyr0_ | i'm using gentoo and want to have smartcard-support in my kdelibs . If i want to compile kcardtools, I get an error message like:Can't find /usr/kde/3.4/include/kcarddb.h what can I do? |
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| 19:15.58 | ireverentReveren | no matter what i do, they box for select keyboard shortcut still says "none" |
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| 19:16.59 | kilrae | oy, what do i do now |
| 19:19.10 | apokryphos | ireverentReveren: could you try applying something reasonably obscure like, say, Win + U? |
| 19:20.05 | ireverentReveren | apokryphos i COULD... but i would prefer to apply "fn + VolUp" |
| 19:20.27 | apokryphos | Could you try that, to see if it's working? |
| 19:20.35 | apokryphos | you can always take it off after |
| 19:20.44 | ireverentReveren | yeah, it is working |
| 19:21.29 | Kryczek | ireverentReveren: you have to tune your keyboard settings in X11 |
| 19:21.51 | ireverentReveren | would you mind helping me do that? |
| 19:21.56 | Kryczek | ireverentReveren: you probably have support for a generic keyboard, and need to choose Logitech iTouch or something |
| 19:22.09 | Kryczek | ireverentReveren: what do u use, Xorg ? |
| 19:22.21 | ireverentReveren | x11 |
| 19:22.42 | ireverentReveren | xfree86 |
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| 19:24.39 | Kryczek | ireverentReveren: run xf86cfg in a terminal |
| 19:29.12 | eisregen | ireverentReveren: Cherry Cymotion Master Linux keyboard ? |
| 19:29.32 | ireverentReveren | nope, dell inspiron laptop keyboard |
| 19:29.50 | eisregen | k ^^ |
| 19:31.12 | eisregen | anyone knows how to get a Cherry Cymotion Master Linux working ? I can't bind any of the multimedia keys when using linux 2.4 ... as rediculous as it sounds most work with linux 2.6 .... |
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| 19:32.20 | Kryczek | why not just use 2.6 then ? |
| 19:32.57 | eisregen | Kryczek: cause I wan't a stable kernel .... + I can't get burn with 2.6.11.* |
| 19:33.12 | Kryczek | 2.6 is stable |
| 19:33.19 | eisregen | Kryczek: + no working nvidia driveers for 2.6.11 |
| 19:33.28 | Kryczek | use 2.6.10 |
| 19:34.24 | ireverentReveren | eisregen what are you talking about? |
| 19:34.31 | ireverentReveren | nvidia works jsut fine on 2.6.11.2 |
| 19:35.06 | eisregen | Kryczek: it's not stable ... it has experimental quality .... thanks to the new delelopment scheme the most basic stuff breaks .... I will consider it stable when there's a 2.7 tree ... |
| 19:35.59 | Kryczek | 2.4 is way slower than 2.6 (i'm telling that because apparently you're into multimedia) |
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| 19:37.22 | eisregen | ireverentReveren: ask around ... nv 1.0-7167 solves almost everything for some ... while it completely breaks everithing for others ... I'm on the second side ... |
| 19:38.01 | eisregen | Kryczek: preempt may be god for the desktop ... but if your running an server it really boggles the box down ... |
| 19:39.30 | Kryczek | eisregen: since when do you put nvidia drivers on servers? ;) |
| 19:39.48 | eisregen | Kryczek: since it's also my development box ... |
| 19:40.09 | Kryczek | come again ? |
| 19:42.21 | eisregen | Kryczek: huh ? |
| 19:42.45 | oleg__ | people, I don't wanna visit developer.kde.org, so tell me what number the next version of kde will have |
| 19:43.10 | eisregen | oleg__: 3.5 or 4.0 ... |
| 19:43.32 | sarah03 | 3.4.1, 3.5.0, or 4.0.0. Depending on what you mean by "next version". |
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| 19:45.24 | Kryczek | eisregen: sorry, it means i didnt understand |
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| 19:46.30 | somekool | whenever I play a little bit with Qt Designer, it crash my X |
| 19:46.42 | eisregen | Kryczek: I'm running a webserver on my box since I'm currently developing an webapp ... and experience real slowness on 2.6 with preempt enabled for the webapp ... |
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| 19:47.12 | Kryczek | eisregen: a server and a box at the same time is not a good idea... |
| 19:47.19 | Kryczek | s/box/desktop/ |
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| 19:48.18 | Flendor | Re. |
| 19:48.20 | eisregen | without preempt it's not that much faster for the desktop ... so there really isn't any point for 2.6 .... yes .. it's not a good idea if that box is the official webserver ... but I'ts just my development machine ... =P |
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| 20:07.24 | Tpo1 | where should I put kde themes and stuff? /etc/opt/kde? |
| 20:07.30 | NetSKaVeN | hell-o! |
| 20:08.00 | NetSKaVeN | any specialist in kate syntax highlight? |
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| 20:08.37 | BaddoG | how can i do for install a themes in kde??? |
| 20:08.39 | apokryphos | NetSKaVeN: you might like to try in #kate |
| 20:09.03 | apokryphos | Tpo1: it depends; for specifying the prefix, you should specify your KDEDIR, yes. |
| 20:09.14 | NetSKaVeN | apokryphos: thanks |
| 20:09.29 | slayerbob | BaddoG: control center/appearance & themes/theme manager |
| 20:11.10 | BaddoG | yes i now slayerboy |
| 20:11.20 | BaddoG | but how can i do for install more themes |
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| 20:11.50 | apokryphos | BaddoG: you can download many at kde-look.org |
| 20:11.53 | kendrick | "Install New Theme" |
| 20:11.59 | BaddoG | where can i download more themes???? |
| 20:11.59 | kendrick | in the Theme Manager that slayerbob mentioned! |
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| 20:12.04 | kendrick | ooooh |
| 20:12.09 | kendrick | then what apokryphos said ;) |
| 20:12.16 | slayerbob | BaddoG: perhaps "get more themes" :) |
| 20:12.34 | kendrick | hehe, yeah, there's that up at the top right, too, huh? :) |
| 20:12.36 | BaddoG | yes but i donwload from more themes and does work |
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| 20:13.35 | somekool | whenever I play a little bit with Qt Designer, it crash my X |
| 20:14.53 | Tpo1 | nope, not specifying prefixes. I want to install KDE themes, accessible by all users, but conforming to FHS standards... kind of anal, I know |
| 20:14.54 | Cerulean | somekool: Designer version? |
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| 20:16.12 | somekool | Cerulean: 3.3.3 |
| 20:16.19 | somekool | kde 3.4_branche |
| 20:16.26 | Cerulean | somekool: Buggy install. Re-install |
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| 20:17.16 | somekool | weird |
| 20:17.22 | Johanna | How can I prevent kmail from downloading the same messages everytime i start it?? |
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| 20:22.10 | langenberg | How do I fire up the config centre from command line? |
| 20:23.53 | sarah03 | kcontrol |
| 20:24.27 | langenberg | thank you :) |
| 20:24.31 | sarah03 | :) |
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| 20:36.07 | jbritz22 | hey hey hey |
| 20:36.34 | jbritz22 | how do I autorun programs in kde, so when I log onto kde the programs load up with it, the two i want are ksmoothdock and konsole |
| 20:40.00 | chavo | jbritz22, just open them up and make sure they are running when you log out. KDE will remember the session for you |
| 20:40.19 | jbritz22 | ok |
| 20:40.22 | jbritz22 | sounds good! |
| 20:40.23 | jbritz22 | :D |
| 20:41.16 | jbritz22 | is there anyway I can get systray items into ksmoothdock? |
| 20:41.49 | chavo | I'm not sure, can't really stand a dock. |
| 20:42.31 | kendrick | jbritz22: another way is by adding them to an AutoStart folder |
| 20:42.46 | kendrick | i did that for a while to run a shell script that did "artsdsp esd" |
| 20:42.53 | kendrick | back when i had to use xmms |
| 20:43.01 | jbritz22 | oh |
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| 20:51.00 | jbritz22 | if I were to make a link to the systray what would it be? |
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| 21:31.29 | segfault2k | hi |
| 21:31.43 | segfault2k | what apps or metapackage i need to create image galleries with konqueror :S |
| 21:33.06 | Blissex | segfault2k: with Konqueror? Well, it has its own gallery mode. So what else do you think you need? |
| 21:33.50 | segfault2k | i dont find it :S |
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| 21:34.06 | SadEagle | it's part of kdeaddons, segfault2k |
| 21:34.24 | segfault2k | thankss :D |
| 21:34.28 | segfault2k | thats it :D |
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| 21:57.02 | mattr | hi |
| 21:57.33 | kendrick | hello |
| 21:59.45 | Mo42 | hello |
| 22:00.33 | Mo42 | how can i configure kde not to use the gnome-menu structure in /usr/share/desktop-directories? |
| 22:01.17 | kendrick | ooh, sorry, beyond my knowledge ;) |
| 22:02.12 | Mo42 | or is there another solution for installing kde and gnome on the same system but let kde use his own menu-structure? |
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| 22:02.40 | Mo42 | moving /usr/share/desktop-directories out of the way messes up my gnome-menu... |
| 22:02.54 | PhilRod | if you want separate menu structures, make sure that they put their menu entries in different places, then set XDG_CONFIG_DIRS and XDG_DATA_DIRS |
| 22:03.02 | PhilRod | appropriately |
| 22:03.02 | kendrick | i don't use both ... switched completely from gnome back when KDE 3 came out |
| 22:03.06 | PhilRod | see the user guide: |
| 22:03.07 | PhilRod | apt: ug |
| 22:03.09 | apt | rumour has it, ug is http://people.fruitsalad.org/phil/kde/userguide-tng |
| 22:03.22 | PhilRod | in the "kde for admins" section is some info about menus |
| 22:04.02 | Mo42 | okay, i will have a look... google didn't give me that link after 15 minutes of searching ;) |
| 22:04.13 | _apollo2011_ | What is the default print command for printing to the default CUPS printer? I just got Acrobat Reader 7.0 and it is set to /usr/bin/lp. But that doesn't do anything and it doesn't show up in the print queue |
| 22:05.12 | praseodymium | how can I get my kde taskbar buttons transparent? |
| 22:05.42 | PhilRod | you need panel v2 or something from kde-look.org |
| 22:05.49 | SadEagle | _apollo2011_: you could try using kprinter as your print command |
| 22:06.00 | PhilRod | praseodymium: if it works, please write it up as a faq and send to faq@kde.org |
| 22:06.10 | _apollo2011_ | k |
| 22:06.23 | PhilRod | _apollo2011_: isn't it "lpr"? |
| 22:06.26 | praseodymium | PhilRod: yea but theres no gentoo pkg for that :/ |
| 22:06.52 | _apollo2011_ | not in Acrobat |
| 22:07.06 | _apollo2011_ | im using SuSE if that helps any |
| 22:07.14 | PhilRod | praseodymium: so make one :-) |
| 22:07.28 | praseodymium | never done so. gonna ask a few ppl |
| 22:07.54 | PhilRod | (AIUI, making freebsd ports of simple KDE apps isn't too hard, and gentoo's "portage" isn't that different, so...) |
| 22:08.02 | praseodymium | nope |
| 22:08.26 | _apollo2011_ | kprinter brought up the menu to print and showed my printer but I said ok and it didn't print |
| 22:09.24 | PhilRod | _apollo2011_: try lpr. If that doesn't work, I'd guess the problem is with the print system, rather than KDE |
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| 22:09.39 | _apollo2011_ | I did try lpr |
| 22:09.41 | PhilRod | disclaimer: I know nothing about printing, apart from that printers hate me |
| 22:09.49 | _apollo2011_ | I can use other programs to print though |
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| 22:11.49 | PhilRod | _apollo2011_: if lpr doesn't work, I'd guess it's a problem with avrobat |
| 22:11.51 | PhilRod | acrobat* |
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| 22:14.18 | _apollo2011_ | I don't think I got the old version to print either |
| 22:14.33 | tid-wave | hello ! where can i submit a feature request ? |
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| 22:14.46 | _apollo2011_ | although the guy on the suse channel said it works for him and hes using CUPS and Acrobat Reader 7 |
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| 22:16.16 | praseodymium | tid-wave: bugs.kde.org |
| 22:17.46 | praseodymium | lol stupid kde bug. I got two panels, one under the other. when I click the above one and then hover icons on the bottom one, the animated tooltip gets under the top baner |
| 22:17.48 | praseodymium | panel |
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| 22:21.56 | ImNotMark | i have nfs mounts and ever since i updated to kde 3.4 they wont open |
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| 22:26.22 | Dhraakellian | ooh... |
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| 22:26.38 | PhilRod | ImNotMark: where don't they open? can you explain more fully? |
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| 22:28.11 | Dhraakellian | heh |
| 22:28.22 | Dhraakellian | having a Qt gvim might be nice |
| 22:28.44 | Kryczek | PhilRod: what the guy is saying is that there might be optional QT support in vi, |
| 22:28.46 | Kryczek | vim |
| 22:29.01 | ImNotMark | PhilRod i have kde set to show nfs mounts on my desktop, but they just dont open, even in konqueror they dont open, its like doing a "cd ." |
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| 22:29.33 | segfault2k | hi :D |
| 22:29.46 | segfault2k | how can i remove the little arrow in the icons in the desktop |
| 22:29.51 | ImNotMark | and i keep getting an error about "devices" not supported |
| 22:29.52 | ysm | hum a kpart_vim where you write :e http://www.kde.org/ in your konqueror ;p |
| 22:31.02 | Dhraakellian | and since kvim sucks |
| 22:32.24 | ImNotMark | does konqueror not support the file:/ usrl anymore? |
| 22:32.32 | ImNotMark | 3.4.0 that is |
| 22:32.35 | PhilRod | ImNotMark: go to lists.kde.org, and look at the 'kde' mailing list for this month - something similar came up recently |
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| 22:33.02 | ysm | ImNotMark: work for me |
| 22:33.42 | ImNotMark | ohh, cuz my hdd mpounts point to file:/ and so does my nfs but the nfs wont open |
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| 22:35.02 | ysm | and with three slash ? |
| 22:35.13 | segfault2k | how can i remove the little arrow in the icons in the desktop |
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| 22:35.22 | segfault2k | in the shorcuts? |
| 22:35.40 | ImNotMark | ysm yeah |
| 22:35.54 | SadEagle | ImNotMark: does it point to file:/ or devices:/ |
| 22:36.02 | ImNotMark | file:/// |
| 22:36.32 | ImNotMark | base url: file:///mnt/blah |
| 22:36.54 | segfault2k | how can i remove the little arrow in the icons in the desktop, in the shorcuts? |
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| 22:38.33 | Blissex | segfault2k: just don't :-) |
| 22:39.01 | segfault2k | !!? |
| 22:39.03 | segfault2k | i cant? |
| 22:39.08 | ysm | there always someone to tell the "bad anwser"... |
| 22:39.20 | segfault2k | or how can i add my home into the desktop |
| 22:40.38 | PhilRod | segfault2k: right-click -> create new-> link to location |
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| 22:42.51 | segfault2k | danke :D |
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| 22:44.15 | ImNotMark | now this is odd |
| 22:44.26 | ImNotMark | my second nfs mount it working but the first one isnt |
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| 22:47.04 | dob | hi |
| 22:48.03 | dob | are there any way to resolve this problem http://img110.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img110&image=kde8lx.jpg of gtk1 application on kde ? i mean the lines on "inbox, sent " etc etc |
| 22:51.21 | lauri | image doesn't load |
| 22:51.45 | dob | it works here |
| 22:51.48 | PhilRod | loads here |
| 22:51.49 | lauri | if it's what I think it is then 'no, because gtk1 actually draws lines all over the place, and the gtk1 colour schemes are tweaked to cover them up" |
| 22:52.06 | lauri | so you can just uncheck the 'apply KDE colours to third party apps" checkbox |
| 22:52.21 | PhilRod | dob: you could try control center->appearance and themes-> color, and the checkbox that lauri suggested |
| 22:52.21 | dob | where is that checkbox? |
| 22:52.29 | Dhraakellian | heh |
| 22:52.29 | dob | ok i will try |
| 22:52.31 | PhilRod | score! what a team! :-) |
| 22:52.36 | dob | thanks |
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| 22:52.55 | PhilRod | lauri: hrm, I've had similar with imageshack - images randomly not loading. Meh |
| 22:53.00 | lauri | heh, image finally loaded, and yes, that's exactly what I thought it was |
| 22:53.45 | ImNotMark | http://imnotmark.zapto.org:3030/snapshot2.png take a look at this, the nfs is actually pounting back to media:/ |
| 22:53.53 | SadEagle | heh, answering questions before they were really asked? |
| 22:54.43 | dob | it works, thanks guys |
| 22:55.08 | ImNotMark | any ideas why its doing this? |
| 22:55.21 | ImNotMark | its only that one nfs |
| 22:56.23 | PhilRod | ImNotMark: heh, weird - see if you can narrow it down, and you can file a bug report |
| 22:57.24 | ImNotMark | ive been trying to figure it out all day, from 3am and still no luck |
| 22:57.24 | dob | are there any suggested ram requirement to run kde ? |
| 22:57.35 | dob | just to know :) |
| 22:57.45 | ImNotMark | dob ALOT |
| 22:57.53 | dob | 512? |
| 22:57.59 | ImNotMark | that should be fine |
| 22:58.01 | PhilRod | 512 is perfectly adequate |
| 22:58.06 | PhilRod | I have 384 here, and it's fine |
| 22:58.10 | ImNotMark | i run 768 and i rarely touch it |
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| 22:58.15 | dida | hi all |
| 22:58.17 | dob | i have 256 and it works fine, but sometimes is a bit slow with konqueror |
| 22:58.23 | dida | just download kde 3.4 |
| 22:58.34 | dida | and having trouble with the installations |
| 22:58.40 | PhilRod | dob: make sure that there are no preloaded instances |
| 22:58.48 | PhilRod | dida: go ahead - what's the problem? |
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| 22:59.09 | dida | failed to install kdenetwork3-3. |
| 22:59.12 | dida | it said |
| 22:59.21 | dida | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:59.22 | dida | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:59.23 | dida | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:59.37 | dida | i can find the libs it needed though |
| 23:00.06 | PhilRod | you should uninstall your old KDE first |
| 23:00.17 | dida | ach so |
| 23:00.20 | dida | how? |
| 23:00.50 | dida | what package i should uninstall? |
| 23:00.54 | dida | packages |
| 23:02.51 | dida | there's no kdebase right? |
| 23:02.53 | ysm | kdenetwork3-news and kdenetork3-mail |
| 23:03.06 | ysm | with the correct spelling.. |
| 23:03.14 | PhilRod | dida: uninstall all kde 3.1 packages on your system |
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| 23:04.13 | dida | including kdebase? |
| 23:04.27 | dida | while there's no new kdebase in the ftp right? |
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| 23:05.41 | dida | PhilRod: are you sure i should uninstall all kde 3.1 including old kdebase? |
| 23:05.54 | SteamedPenguin | why you'd want to go back to 3.3.2 is beyond me |
| 23:06.21 | ImNotMark | SteamedPenguin well so far ima end up doing it, kde 3.4 is giving me problems |
| 23:07.02 | PhilRod | dida: yes, unless your distro does something weird |
| 23:07.18 | dob | bye |
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| 23:07.38 | PhilRod | hrm, I think I should slee |
| 23:07.44 | tdela | how do i disable the panel? i installed ksmoothmenu, but i dont want the panel open anymore :/ |
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| 23:08.00 | tdela | ksmoothdock* |
| 23:08.21 | dida | ok |
| 23:10.32 | Tpo1 | how would one add a codec to noatun? |
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| 23:14.03 | ImNotMark | do you have nfs mounts? |
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| 23:17.07 | tdela | hello? :/ |
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| 23:19.40 | SteamedPenguin | not here, at home though |
| 23:19.52 | SteamedPenguin | mounting a NFS music share |
| 23:19.56 | MrGrim | hmm neat... I found a nice and elegant way to use JuK to feed an icecast server |
| 23:21.04 | MrGrim | arts w/ jack output + ices2-kh60 |
| 23:21.13 | MrGrim | jack is neat |
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| 23:27.39 | X-The | in the open files window, if i add any icon to the left panel, that added icon appears in the desktop and in the file /home/mmodem/.kde/DESKTOP_ENTRY, why? |
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| 23:31.18 | YouCeyE | any way of saving all kde settings for future installations |
| 23:32.00 | YouCeyE | i am looking for saving some important config files like XFreeconfig files |
| 23:36.18 | tdela | how do i disable the panel? i installed ksmoothdock, but i dont want the panel open anymore :/ |
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| 23:43.07 | ama | nope |
| 23:44.29 | ysm | does kmplayer handle playlist file for mplayer and if yes, what is the playlist format ? |
| 23:45.19 | fanti | hey... i've installed my new notebook today and copied my ~/.kde form my old notebook to the new one. unfortuenately i can't type a pipe and some other chars. the fonts looks also not like the ones at my old notebook. |
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| 23:45.27 | fanti | maybe i forgot to install some fonts? |
| 23:46.11 | lauri | possibly, if you can't type it, it's more likely the keyboard map is wrong |
| 23:47.00 | fanti | hmm at the console (not unter x) i can type all chars. but not under X ? |
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