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| 00:04.06 | _morci | hi |
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| 00:04.52 | _morci | I have a problem, I have looked into forums and google it, but without success |
| 00:05.49 | _morci | When I point my mouse over a file I get an error saying mime type not found apliccation/octet-stream |
| 00:06.00 | r00tsh3ll | is there a way to change just the menu font color? |
| 00:06.16 | _morci | does anyone knows haow to fix this? |
| 00:06.23 | _morci | *how |
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| 00:16.59 | slayerbob | what is the best online tutorial for learning to write kde/qt applications ? |
| 00:17.09 | slayerbob | someone has pointed me to http://developer.kde.org/~larrosa/tutorial/index.html |
| 00:17.18 | slayerbob | but i figure i should get a second opinion first :P |
| 00:19.19 | r00tsh3ll | slayerbob: http://developer.kde.org/ |
| 00:19.22 | alone` | OMG |
| 00:19.30 | alone` | konversation r0x0rs j00 b0x3rs |
| 00:20.00 | alone` | why are all the dam scripts using \n's tho!? |
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| 00:20.56 | slayerbob | r00tsh3ll: so just work my way through all of it then? noted :P |
| 00:21.08 | slayerbob | dammit |
| 00:21.25 | slayerbob | i just read "noted" as "note daemon" even though i wrote it myself :( |
| 00:22.08 | alone` | lol |
| 00:22.14 | alone` | sl33p? |
| 00:22.43 | alone` | r0f1 |
| 00:22.45 | alone` | :P |
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| 00:30.19 | Tpo1 | I checked out the CVS of konstruct, and it goes on and on about 'KDE-3.4-beta2' |
| 00:30.35 | alone` | lmao |
| 00:30.37 | alone` | sucks |
| 00:31.28 | Tpo1 | so, its not up to date? |
| 00:33.45 | alone` | probly not |
| 00:33.50 | alone` | watya tryna install? kde 3.4? |
| 00:34.08 | Tpo1 | the most recent that I can with konstruct |
| 00:34.17 | Tpo1 | cvs images if possible :p |
| 00:34.39 | tbird | i selected to play a folder in konqueror in xmms and now everytime i click on a folder in konqueror it opens xmms anyone know how i can reset this? |
| 00:35.54 | Tpo1 | heh |
| 00:36.16 | slayerbob | right-click, open with, tick "Remember application associate for this type of file" and select konqueror |
| 00:36.20 | slayerbob | i would guess... |
| 00:37.01 | tbird | oh duh |
| 00:37.03 | tbird | thnx |
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| 00:47.05 | Zizzencs | i would like to use the fglrx driver with composite. is it possible to tell xorg not to disable dri? |
| 00:47.37 | Tpo1 | are you sure you need fglrx drivers? |
| 00:47.43 | Tpo1 | they tell me they're deprecated |
| 00:48.24 | Tpo1 | you can mess with your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file |
| 00:50.04 | scrooge | fglrx? deprecated? |
| 00:50.05 | scrooge | WTF |
| 00:50.08 | scrooge | u on crack man |
| 00:50.19 | Tpo1 | I use radeon drivers *shrug* |
| 00:50.25 | Tpo1 | r200 |
| 00:50.32 | scrooge | 10vid_card[ATI Technologies Inc M9+ 5C61 [Radeon Mobility 9200 (AGP)] (rev 01) @ 1280x800x24bpp] |
| 00:50.38 | scrooge | using fglrx |
| 00:50.54 | scrooge | glx works with radeon? |
| 00:51.50 | Tpo1 | less /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/doc/README.ati |
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| 01:01.11 | piem | hi |
| 01:01.20 | scrooge | HI! |
| 01:01.22 | scrooge | XD |
| 01:01.26 | piem | how do i specify endianness from qmake ? |
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| 01:06.59 | Biennium | If the cookie handler system dies, is there a way to get it working again, short of restarting KDE? |
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| 01:08.19 | phxguy | can anyone help with getting my soundblaster live soundcard working? |
| 01:08.24 | piem | Biennium: how about kcookiejar ? |
| 01:09.08 | piem | phxguy: should not be too hard. what's your kernel ? |
| 01:09.39 | phxguy | 2.6.10-3-386 |
| 01:09.50 | phxguy | 2.6.10-5-386 i mean |
| 01:10.10 | piem | cool. lspci | grep -i audio ? |
| 01:10.46 | phxguy | piem: 0000:02:0a.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy LS |
| 01:11.01 | piem | arg... audigy |
| 01:11.18 | Biennium | Not just Audigy... Audigy LS. |
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| 01:11.31 | phxguy | heh didn't say audigy on the box |
| 01:12.05 | real | anyone knows a good manual to learn to program with qt? |
| 01:12.08 | phxguy | piem: are those harder to get workin?? |
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| 01:12.27 | piem | i don't know the status right know. |
| 01:12.47 | Biennium | phxguy: Theoretically, you can get it to work by loading the snd-ca0106 module. |
| 01:13.03 | phxguy | how would i do that? Biennium |
| 01:13.26 | phxguy | wouild that be a modprobe thing?/ |
| 01:13.41 | Biennium | Um, yeah, and then check the mixer settings because I think it defaults to muted. |
| 01:14.21 | piem | a year ago it was a pain at least. good news if it's getting better |
| 01:15.16 | phxguy | Biennium: it gave me an error -> FATAL: Module snd_ca0106 not found. |
| 01:15.29 | phxguy | error running install command for snd_ca0106 |
| 01:16.09 | Biennium | No underline. Dash. |
| 01:16.29 | phxguy | oh dug :) |
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| 01:17.16 | phxguy | phxguy@ubuntu:~$ sudo modprobe snd-ca0106 |
| 01:17.16 | phxguy | FATAL: Module snd_ca0106 not found. |
| 01:17.16 | phxguy | FATAL: Error running install command for snd_ca0106 |
| 01:17.54 | phxguy | this is the error kde is popping up --> device /dev/audio can't be opened (No such device) |
| 01:18.21 | scrooge | ls -ls /dev/audio |
| 01:18.34 | scrooge | and wheres the autostart stuff go? |
| 01:18.42 | scrooge | nomore files to add the commands in? |
| 01:19.29 | phxguy | 0 crw-rw---- 1 root audio 14, 4 2005-04-01 18:08 /dev/audio |
| 01:19.47 | canllaith | Ah. |
| 01:19.56 | canllaith | Are you part of the 'audio' group phxguy ? |
| 01:19.56 | scrooge | perms? |
| 01:20.01 | phxguy | I am a part of the audio group |
| 01:20.19 | Biennium | Ooh, neato, the driver is by someone at superbug.demon.co.uk. I wonder when it got put into the kernel. |
| 01:21.06 | piem | Biennium: i don't see it packaged in debian out of alsa-module-2.4.27 |
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| 01:21.54 | scrooge | .kde/Autostart/ > |
| 01:22.00 | scrooge | ln -s or sumtin? |
| 01:22.01 | piem | not sure if it got in already. is 2.6.10 in sync with alsa 1.0.8 ? |
| 01:22.11 | scrooge | shows as .kde/Autostart/.directory |
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| 01:22.47 | scrooge | oh wait...lets put the FAQ to use! |
| 01:22.58 | piem | phxguy: lsmod | grep ^snd , looks like you have some other sound mod loaded |
| 01:23.01 | phxguy | what faq??? |
| 01:23.03 | scrooge | /usr/bin/idle |
| 01:23.06 | scrooge | erhm |
| 01:23.08 | scrooge | http://docs.kde.org/en/HEAD/kdebase/faq/ |
| 01:23.18 | moxilo | mm por si alguien le interesa |
| 01:23.19 | moxilo | http://rafb.net/paste/results/QTiL4Q74.html |
| 01:23.30 | scrooge | :S |
| 01:24.04 | moxilo | take pictures and write one film |
| 01:24.18 | moxilo | but import is to slow :S |
| 01:24.37 | moxilo | is in spanish xD :( |
| 01:24.40 | phxguy | piem i typed that in andf nothing happened |
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| 01:25.50 | Biennium | Hm. I wonder if the OSS emu10k1 driver supports the Audigy LS or SoundBlaster Live 24 now. |
| 01:26.55 | piem | phxguy: lsmod | grep ^soundcore ? |
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| 01:27.31 | scrooge | awesome |
| 01:27.35 | scrooge | the faq is > * |
| 01:27.36 | phxguy | i get this -> soundcore 9824 2 sb_lib,sound |
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| 01:30.42 | piem | phxguy: cat /proc/asound/cards |
| 01:31.08 | real | if i got a c++ code for example num.cpp in qt how should i compile the file? |
| 01:31.11 | real | or run it |
| 01:31.29 | phxguy | piem: cat: /proc/asound/cards: No such file or directory |
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| 01:31.38 | moxilo | 3:30 in spain good night |
| 01:31.49 | scrooge | nite |
| 01:32.04 | Gumby | can anyone tell me which file stores the addresses and contacts in kontact/kmail ? |
| 01:32.19 | real | anyone ¿? |
| 01:32.34 | Biennium | And it looks like the OSS emu10k1 driver supports only the normal Audigy and Sound Blaster Live. |
| 01:32.58 | Ragan | moxilo, really? I would think it were 2:30 |
| 01:33.24 | Biennium | real: A random .cpp file, you could compile with gcc and stuff. |
| 01:33.30 | piem | phxguy: alsa will not be working with this kernel as you don't have the right module. does oss work ? try play file.wav |
| 01:33.35 | scrooge | g++ foo.cpp |
| 01:33.37 | scrooge | gcc bitches |
| 01:34.00 | scrooge | for qt stuff, i think i have to moc foo.cpp first |
| 01:34.12 | phxguy | let me find a wav file. |
| 01:34.21 | scrooge | kde has some |
| 01:34.31 | scrooge | or did they convert everything to ogg? |
| 01:34.45 | Biennium | But "play" works only if you have sox installed. |
| 01:35.09 | real | Biennium: and not qmake? |
| 01:35.50 | Biennium | real: What scrooge said. Anything named "make" works only if you have something with a name like "Makefile" nearby. |
| 01:36.16 | real | ok |
| 01:36.18 | piem | phxguy: /usr/share/sounds usually has some |
| 01:36.54 | phxguy | piem: nope nothing is playing |
| 01:38.08 | scrooge | alsamixer set Master 80 unmute |
| 01:38.13 | scrooge | alsamixer set PCM 80 unmute |
| 01:38.13 | scrooge | ? |
| 01:38.15 | scrooge | erhm |
| 01:38.17 | scrooge | amixer i mean |
| 01:38.24 | scrooge | or u can use alsamixer maybe |
| 01:39.04 | real | main.cpp:1:26: aqpplication.h: No such file or directory |
| 01:39.04 | real | main.cpp:2:25: qpushbuttun.h: No such file or directory |
| 01:39.09 | real | =/ |
| 01:39.17 | piem | scrooge: phxguy has no alsa working |
| 01:39.24 | phxguy | not working |
| 01:39.40 | slayerbob | real: should those not be qapplication.h and qpushbutton.h ? |
| 01:39.51 | slayerbob | or was that just a typo rather than pasting directly ? |
| 01:39.58 | phxguy | alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory |
| 01:40.08 | scrooge | distro? modules/in-kernel? sound card? |
| 01:40.23 | piem | scrooge: scroll up ;) |
| 01:40.36 | phxguy | im using kubuntu distro |
| 01:40.37 | piem | phxguy: http://www.ubuntu-es.org/node/2747?PHPSESSID=3dcf9214475736aa7a4bf5ad37a561cd |
| 01:40.41 | scrooge | how far? lol |
| 01:41.19 | piem | i hope you don't mind spanish |
| 01:41.26 | phxguy | dont know spanish |
| 01:41.27 | piem | ./configure --with ca0106 que viene en la pagina de alsa |
| 01:41.32 | phxguy | is there an english version? |
| 01:41.35 | scrooge | heh |
| 01:41.50 | real | slayerbob: i fix the name... and same mistake |
| 01:42.38 | piem | phxguy: no se. just follow the commands in bold in that page |
| 01:42.53 | piem | phxguy: when you see long comments about, make sure you do something more |
| 01:42.54 | piem | :) |
| 01:43.20 | piem | as in "buscamos el "CA0106" y lo seleccionamos" |
| 01:43.31 | canllaith | It says configure --with ca0106 that it comes in the page from alsa ? |
| 01:43.40 | annma | canllaith: hi! you're back! |
| 01:43.53 | canllaith | and we looked for the 'CA0106' and we selected it |
| 01:43.54 | annma | slayerbob was sad and depressed |
| 01:43.59 | canllaith | annma: hehehe I see :) |
| 01:44.00 | slayerbob | i was ? |
| 01:44.07 | annma | ;-) |
| 01:44.13 | annma | you said so, slayerbob |
| 01:44.19 | Alethes | he was depressed 'cause I told him I wouldn't serve as a substitute canllaith |
| 01:44.21 | annma | all :( |
| 01:44.25 | canllaith | ahahahaha |
| 01:44.32 | canllaith | You mean he was on his knees giving thanks |
| 01:44.34 | canllaith | ;) |
| 01:44.42 | slayerbob | :P |
| 01:44.47 | annma | lol |
| 01:44.51 | slayerbob | there can be no substitute for the canllaith |
| 01:44.55 | canllaith | :$ |
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| 01:45.02 | annma | they all think they will manage OK without us, canllaith |
| 01:45.12 | annma | but as soon as we're gone they cry |
| 01:45.24 | canllaith | annma: until they walk into the kitchen and find food does not cook itself ;) |
| 01:45.30 | annma | lol |
| 01:45.32 | annma | yes! |
| 01:46.09 | canllaith | slayerbob can cook reasonably well. |
| 01:46.15 | canllaith | brucehoult on the other hand..... :\ |
| 01:46.20 | annma | lol |
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| 01:46.22 | slayerbob | lol |
| 01:46.41 | slayerbob | i can cook exceptionally well when i pay attention to what i am doing :P |
| 01:46.51 | slayerbob | sadly i almost never do :P |
| 01:47.00 | annma | ;) |
| 01:47.28 | annma | I have no imagination when cooking, I just do it because Imust |
| 01:47.31 | canllaith | Bruce still brings up the time that you cooked him breakfast |
| 01:47.38 | slayerbob | meh |
| 01:47.40 | scrooge | 0.o |
| 01:47.42 | canllaith | Every time that I say you can cook |
| 01:47.47 | annma | lol |
| 01:47.48 | slayerbob | my breakfast and your breakfast was perfect on that day :P |
| 01:47.51 | canllaith | He raises an eyebrow and says 'well, not bacon' |
| 01:47.52 | phxguy | how do i find out what chipset my sound card is using |
| 01:47.53 | canllaith | heh true. |
| 01:47.55 | canllaith | phxguy: lspci |
| 01:48.00 | slayerbob | bruce is just too fussy about how he likes his food |
| 01:48.04 | canllaith | lol ! |
| 01:48.08 | canllaith | Not as fussy as I am :) |
| 01:48.14 | canllaith | He cannot cook anything that I will eat, except toast. |
| 01:48.19 | annma | bruce looks like he likes his food, period |
| 01:48.19 | scrooge | lol |
| 01:48.22 | slayerbob | and bread apparently :P |
| 01:48.25 | Biennium | phxguy: lspci, usually. |
| 01:48.26 | slayerbob | LOL annma |
| 01:48.27 | canllaith | Everything else I take a bite of and go :X yuck |
| 01:48.29 | canllaith | annma: LOL! |
| 01:48.33 | phxguy | thanks |
| 01:49.12 | slayerbob | i need to invent a way to just download new stuff into my brain - this learning thing is a pain |
| 01:49.34 | phxguy | slayerbob: they had the right idea in the matrix movie |
| 01:49.49 | slayerbob | phxguy: let computers take over the world you mean ? |
| 01:49.58 | phxguy | sure |
| 01:50.06 | slayerbob | and black out all sunlight ? |
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| 01:50.53 | slayerbob | hiya brucehoult |
| 01:51.24 | brucehoult | annma: hey! I resemble that remark! |
| 01:51.30 | slayerbob | LOL |
| 01:51.34 | annma | what? |
| 01:51.42 | annma | hi brucehoult <sweet smile> |
| 01:52.42 | annma | for breakfast? .... |
| 01:52.48 | canllaith | brucehoult: what??? |
| 01:52.53 | canllaith | You get that for breakfast and I get this? :( |
| 01:53.11 | canllaith | brucehoult: nooooooooooo don't eat it I want it :( |
| 01:53.21 | annma | do you have Easter Chocolate in your island? |
| 01:54.05 | brucehoult | well .. it's nearly 2 pm. I'll call it lunch :-) |
| 01:54.33 | phxguy | asny other ideas anyone? |
| 01:56.21 | canllaith | :| |
| 01:56.24 | canllaith | *I* COOKED IT |
| 01:56.34 | canllaith | prick |
| 01:57.10 | ^1 | anyone know about a KDE application that does classification of collection (card, comic book, ...) ??? |
| 01:57.18 | scrooge | lol |
| 01:59.53 | phxguy | gonna restart |
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| 02:01.24 | ^1 | i'd like to know if there is a KDE application that helps list and classify such collection as card, comic book or action figure |
| 02:01.39 | canllaith | like.... a database? |
| 02:01.57 | ^1 | yea i could add a picture and other info |
| 02:02.07 | canllaith | Have a look on kde-apps.org |
| 02:02.12 | canllaith | There are a few database frontends there iirc |
| 02:02.23 | ^1 | iea Kollection would be great |
| 02:03.40 | annma | Kollektion even |
| 02:03.56 | Alethes | s/c/k/g; |
| 02:03.57 | scrooge | haha |
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| 02:04.58 | zitooooooooo | startkde screws with my alsamixer levels, how can i stop this? |
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| 02:06.50 | canllaith | zitooooooooo: kmix is prolly set to restore it's settings on login |
| 02:06.55 | canllaith | Check that, and untick the box if so |
| 02:07.17 | scrooge | heh |
| 02:07.28 | zitooooooooo | wow, thanks a lot, fixed |
| 02:07.37 | _jb | kmix :( |
| 02:07.38 | Alethes | canllaith is useful |
| 02:07.52 | annma | yeah, she is better than a bot |
| 02:08.05 | zitooooooooo | i have another problem, canllaith? |
| 02:08.06 | annma | that's how we are |
| 02:08.11 | canllaith | mmmmmmm ? |
| 02:08.16 | scrooge | haha |
| 02:08.23 | _jb | vowel problems, zitooooooooo? |
| 02:08.39 | scrooge | likes having o's ;P |
| 02:08.55 | zitooooooooo | i can't login with a dm, i can startx or startkde /var/log/kdm/log tells me X server connections are refused |
| 02:09.54 | canllaith | mmm ......how are you attempting to run KDM ? |
| 02:10.25 | zitooooooooo | the default gentoo scripts |
| 02:10.56 | zitooooooooo | i can loging with kdm as root, but not a user |
| 02:11.51 | canllaith | I have absolutely no idea - I don't use KDM |
| 02:12.06 | zitooooooooo | can you suggest something better i could try |
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| 02:12.21 | scrooge | ? |
| 02:12.38 | scrooge | zitooooooooo, gentoo? |
| 02:12.44 | scrooge | nano -w /etc/rc.conf |
| 02:12.47 | slayerbob | slackware perhaps ? |
| 02:12.50 | canllaith | I use startx... |
| 02:12.52 | scrooge | change DISPLAYMANAGER="kdm" |
| 02:12.58 | scrooge | /etc/init.d/xdm start |
| 02:12.58 | zitooooooooo | yea... |
| 02:13.09 | zitooooooooo | i was asking what dm canllaith uses |
| 02:13.15 | canllaith | I don't. |
| 02:13.22 | zitooooooooo | i see |
| 02:13.44 | slayerbob | :P |
| 02:13.45 | scrooge | lol |
| 02:13.48 | scrooge | l337ness |
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| 02:14.44 | spanglesontoast | what does sh: iceauth: command not found mean? |
| 02:15.08 | baz2a | can anyone help? been looking for fc3 x86_64 kde 3.4 forever |
| 02:15.17 | canllaith | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:15.24 | baz2a | going there too |
| 02:15.41 | spanglesontoast | huh |
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| 02:23.03 | Alethes | know what makes this mix rock more than anything? |
| 02:23.13 | Alethes | it's not the high quality nuts |
| 02:23.15 | Alethes | it's the excessive salt |
| 02:23.42 | canllaith | lol |
| 02:24.23 | Alethes | I think of it as a slightly abrasive cleaner for my arteries |
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| 02:25.27 | Alethes | a friend of mine suggested that the pope being ill was a big april fool's joke |
| 02:25.40 | Alethes | I responded that we could call it The Immaculate Deception |
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| 02:27.47 | canllaith | LOL |
| 02:27.49 | Biennium | Unlikely. They've been talking about his declining health for a couple months now. |
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| 02:28.30 | Alethes | but you could imagine? "The pope is dead." |
| 02:28.37 | Alethes | *people mourn* |
| 02:28.40 | Alethes | APRIL FOOLS! |
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| 02:31.51 | slayerbob | heh |
| 02:32.16 | Alethes | hmm |
| 02:32.38 | slayerbob | LOL |
| 02:32.45 | Alethes | gotta think of something that won't result in me being deported and divorced |
| 02:32.51 | slayerbob | there is hope for you yet Alethes :P |
| 02:33.50 | Alethes | I'm glad somebody believes in me |
| 02:34.02 | alone` | 0.o |
| 02:34.12 | alone` | konversation > * |
| 02:34.16 | alone` | scripts are nutz tho |
| 02:34.21 | alone` | all these dam \n's |
| 02:34.28 | Alethes | (__*__) > alone` |
| 02:34.50 | Alethes | ok, that's a bit harsh |
| 02:34.50 | alone` | lol |
| 02:34.57 | Alethes | alone`==(__*__) |
| 02:34.58 | Alethes | :) |
| 02:35.03 | alone` | gahh |
| 02:35.20 | scrooge | these green dots crap must change |
| 02:35.43 | Alethes | here, try _these_ 'shrooms |
| 02:35.57 | Alethes | the green dots don't go away, but it introduces purple ones too |
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| 02:36.33 | scrooge | purple!? |
| 02:36.35 | scrooge | where!? |
| 02:36.39 | scrooge | lmfao i made them blink |
| 02:36.39 | scrooge | haha |
| 02:36.49 | Alethes | hah |
| 02:37.10 | scrooge | rofl...blinkity blink blink |
| 02:37.17 | Alethes | <Tommy Chong Voice>Wow man....</Tommy Chong> |
| 02:37.34 | scrooge | can i close the server tab without being disconnected? |
| 02:37.35 | scrooge | lol |
| 02:37.40 | Alethes | yep |
| 02:37.46 | scrooge | *phew* |
| 02:37.47 | scrooge | good |
| 02:37.55 | scrooge | gahh |
| 02:37.56 | scrooge | cant |
| 02:37.58 | scrooge | :/ |
| 02:38.03 | Alethes | you can also close the #kde tab without being disconnected |
| 02:38.04 | Alethes | try it |
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| 02:38.26 | canllaith | Nice to see Alethes is being his usual helpful self today :P |
| 02:38.32 | scrooge | lol |
| 02:38.41 | Alethes | haha |
| 02:38.58 | scrooge | gahhhhhhhh |
| 02:39.01 | scrooge | no /slap commamnd |
| 02:40.29 | Alethes | man Tool rocks |
| 02:40.40 | Alethes | I haven't listened to them in forever |
| 02:41.16 | brucehoult | that maynard is wierd |
| 02:41.27 | Alethes | hehe |
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| 02:42.57 | brucehoult | Matt Johnson is about as wierd as I go... |
| 02:43.26 | Alethes | who's he? |
| 02:43.29 | scrooge | weird al yankovich! |
| 02:44.38 | brucehoult | The The |
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| 02:45.50 | Alethes | ah |
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| 02:48.15 | brucehoult | http://www.eff.org/IP/Audio/20000607_thethe_statement.html |
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| 02:49.31 | scrooge | :O |
| 02:49.38 | scrooge | konvi's OSD > * |
| 02:49.41 | scrooge | :D |
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| 02:53.12 | litb | i need help with bash. when i logon or open a shell, it prints: "/bin/ls: cannot read symbolic link /proc/xxxx/exe: Permission denied" |
| 02:53.52 | litb | i dont know if it's an konsole or bash issue |
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| 03:06.42 | Biennium | Oh, yeah, running kcookiejar by itself doesn't do anything, and I still don't get to use cookies. |
| 03:08.04 | grepper | litb: well, you could know by seeing what happens with xterm |
| 03:11.26 | litb | it prints nothing; seems like that runs |
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| 03:11.41 | litb | but i've found the error |
| 03:11.45 | Roey | hi |
| 03:12.01 | litb | do you know what realtime LSM is? |
| 03:16.23 | grepper | Realtime Linux Security Module ? |
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| 03:18.14 | litb | yes |
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| 03:19.36 | litb | whenever i load the realtime LSM, i catch the error: /bin/ls: cannot read symbolic link /proc/xxxx/exe: Permission denied" if i try to run "konsole" |
| 03:19.51 | litb | can you help me? |
| 03:21.05 | canllaith | This is not something to do with KDE |
| 03:21.26 | canllaith | ask #yourdistro, they will have a much better idea how to help :) |
| 03:22.29 | r00tsh3ll | ZzzZzzZzz... |
| 03:23.36 | osbm | probably u are executing without correct permission over the app |
| 03:24.56 | litb | <PROTECTED> |
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| 03:30.08 | Biennium | So, if kcookiejar dies, is there a way to get it running again, short of restarting KDE? |
| 03:30.12 | _jb | god, kolab is taking a long time to build :( |
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| 03:39.51 | Dachnaz | Quick question in Gentoo Linux - I want to change my USE flags. Can I just change them for them to take effect, or did they go into my kernel or something the first time I installed this? |
| 03:42.14 | grepper | you need to redo whatever builds your new flags affect |
| 03:42.49 | grepper | as they are compile time flags |
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| 03:43.45 | Dachnaz | So, the Kernel? |
| 03:43.51 | BlackHand | not the kernel |
| 03:45.08 | phxguy | anyone care to help me with my volume control? |
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| 03:51.41 | fstorm_ | hello |
| 03:51.47 | fstorm_ | anyone here running kde on openbsd? |
| 03:51.56 | fstorm_ | Im having some trouble |
| 03:52.42 | fstorm_ | I have OpenBSD 3.6 on my laptop, added the kde pkg, ran xf86config, when I type 'startkde' kde tells me that it could not start the ksmserver |
| 03:52.47 | fstorm_ | any advice? |
| 03:52.55 | canllaith | Try typing startx instead? :) |
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| 03:57.25 | fstorm_ | startx just brings me to x via fvwm |
| 03:57.37 | canllaith | You need to have an .xinitrc file that starts KDE instead |
| 03:57.40 | fstorm_ | its something with libkdeinit_ksmserver.so |
| 03:57.51 | fstorm_ | ah |
| 03:58.04 | canllaith | Try copying your .xinitrc to a backup location then echo "exec /path/to/startkde" > .xinitrc |
| 03:58.07 | fstorm_ | do you have a site with any documentation on that? |
| 03:58.17 | fstorm_ | ah |
| 03:58.27 | canllaith | I have a sample xinitrc somewhere |
| 03:58.53 | canllaith | mmm ok no I don't. |
| 03:59.06 | canllaith | It is in the faq that is in the channel's topic though, under Installing |
| 03:59.27 | fstorm_ | allright, I hate to keep on asking people for help, so I like docs. |
| 03:59.36 | Biennium | Mmm. How did it decide to start fvwm in the first place? Does OpenBSD's X server not default to twm anymore? |
| 03:59.41 | fstorm_ | yeah |
| 04:00.08 | canllaith | bbs :) |
| 04:00.09 | fstorm_ | fvwm default |
| 04:00.16 | grepper | damn newfangled desktops taking over :P |
| 04:00.58 | fstorm_ | this is starting to tick me off. |
| 04:02.19 | _jb | dumb question, how does one deactivate services on redhat? |
| 04:02.49 | grepper | _jb: chkconfig ? |
| 04:03.48 | _jb | i should say, turn off daemons |
| 04:04.11 | _jb | for example, sendmail |
| 04:04.13 | grepper | for RH, services was ok |
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| 04:14.08 | Alethes | I just realized something about khtml that doesn't seem quite right |
| 04:14.34 | Alethes | it blanks the content area before the new content is even loaded |
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| 04:14.53 | Alethes | which makes it look like everything flickers |
| 04:15.15 | Alethes | with gecko and mshtml, the content is loaded before attempting to clear the window and draw the content |
| 04:15.19 | ankur_nayak | does any one know how to set shortcut keys to increase or dec volume.... |
| 04:15.20 | ankur_nayak | ?? |
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| 04:18.37 | hays | Alethes: last I checked that wasn't the only thing wrong with khtml |
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| 04:23.47 | VexX | ackk.. planet-kde / planet-gnome swapped url's.. LOL |
| 04:23.53 | real | - /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lqt |
| 04:23.53 | real | collect2: ld returned 1 exit status |
| 04:24.04 | real | what do i need for lqt? |
| 04:24.11 | hays | http://www.divisiontwo.com/articles/linuxbeat3.htm |
| 04:24.53 | Pupeno | Some application forgot a tooltip on the screen and I can't get rid of it... it seems it was konqueror. |
| 04:26.25 | grepper | real: what distro ? |
| 04:26.33 | real | debian sid |
| 04:26.38 | Octane | can someone giv eme a hand |
| 04:26.49 | Octane | i want to use Thunderbird-like folder structure in kmail |
| 04:26.49 | real | i fix it |
| 04:26.51 | Octane | is that "maildir" format? |
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| 04:27.16 | slayerbob | wb canllaith |
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| 04:27.32 | canllaith | thanks :) |
| 04:28.27 | Alethes | ugh |
| 04:28.27 | Alethes | I hate sharing a dialup connection |
| 04:28.32 | Alethes | my wife is ebaying again |
| 04:28.50 | Alethes | I should point ebay.com to 127.0.0.1 on her box |
| 04:28.55 | slayerbob | lol |
| 04:29.08 | slayerbob | Alethes: or you could cache it with squid :) |
| 04:29.22 | Octane | anyone? is thunderbird mbox or maildir? |
| 04:29.22 | Alethes | haha |
| 04:29.24 | slayerbob | although i suspect it is auction images that are the source of the problem :P |
| 04:29.27 | loren | which distribution would someone inhere reccomend for KDE3.4 |
| 04:29.53 | slayerbob | loren: it was really easy to set up on slackware - just installpkg * and everything worked |
| 04:30.03 | scrooge | slackware or gentoo |
| 04:30.04 | scrooge | *G* |
| 04:30.11 | loren | hmmh |
| 04:30.19 | canllaith | When the next suse comes out, they generally put together a very nice KDE too |
| 04:30.20 | loren | i've actually never tried either lol |
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| 04:30.28 | scrooge | :P |
| 04:30.28 | loren | yea |
| 04:30.40 | Alethes | the freebsd kde packages/ports are really well done |
| 04:30.45 | loren | what do you like about Slackware the most? i tried to install it but needed some more packages :( |
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| 04:31.01 | slayerbob | Alethes: you'd almost think that some of the kde devs used freebsd :) |
| 04:31.05 | loren | Alethes: which BSD operating system do you use? |
| 04:31.07 | Alethes | hehe |
| 04:31.11 | Alethes | fbsd |
| 04:31.18 | loren | ah |
| 04:31.38 | loren | Alethes:what are the advantages for using BSD? |
| 04:32.07 | Alethes | mostly l33tness |
| 04:32.13 | Alethes | bragging rights |
| 04:32.15 | Alethes | :D |
| 04:32.16 | loren | haha :) |
| 04:32.22 | loren | >=D |
| 04:32.32 | Alethes | I dig the ports system a lot |
| 04:32.35 | canllaith | l33tn3ss would be me getting KDE 3.4 running on the irix box upstairs... |
| 04:32.39 | loren | i was actually thinking about trying BSD or SkyOS |
| 04:32.55 | Alethes | I like the way the files are laid out as well |
| 04:33.01 | Alethes | it just makes more sense to me overall |
| 04:33.07 | loren | do they use a different filesystem than unix? |
| 04:33.11 | slayerbob | i dunno... i think it would be kinda cool making kde 3.4 work on irix :) |
| 04:33.14 | loren | like directory structure |
| 04:33.32 | Alethes | well, it's just very organized -- more than linux is by a long shot |
| 04:33.39 | slayerbob | loren: i think you will find that linux and bsd both support each other's filesystems |
| 04:33.41 | Alethes | probably 'cause of its centralized development |
| 04:33.50 | loren | oh |
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| 04:34.11 | canllaith | slayerbob: Same, I don't think I'm allowed to play with it though :( |
| 04:34.17 | loren | Alethes: what's the filestructure like though? imo like they actually have a programs folder? haaha |
| 04:34.24 | Alethes | hehe |
| 04:34.27 | loren | Alethes: or hmm |
| 04:34.30 | slayerbob | canllaith: not even through an ssh session so that he didn't know ? |
| 04:34.38 | Alethes | nah, it's just a more diliberate separation between the OS and the applications |
| 04:34.50 | loren | oh |
| 04:34.55 | loren | i c haha |
| 04:35.04 | loren | that's one thing that's irritated me about the unix filestructure |
| 04:35.05 | Alethes | I'm mostly just a user though, so I don't know I've benefited from much else than the ports system |
| 04:35.08 | loren | hoping someone would change it |
| 04:35.13 | Alethes | the stability is amazing too, actually |
| 04:35.19 | loren | ah |
| 04:35.31 | slayerbob | i dunno... linux is pretty stable |
| 04:35.34 | hays | Alethes: what video card do you use |
| 04:35.43 | Alethes | nvidia geforce2 |
| 04:35.45 | hays | I've been having stability issues with linux lately |
| 04:35.50 | slayerbob | most of our boxes are only ever restarted when we change the kernel or move them |
| 04:35.57 | loren | hays: it's probably driver issues |
| 04:36.02 | loren | haha |
| 04:36.14 | canllaith | 307 days :) that's stable enough for me |
| 04:36.18 | Alethes | mine only reboots when I have a brown/blackout :/ |
| 04:36.19 | loren | slayerbob: true that, well i turn mine off at night coz its in my room and noisy |
| 04:36.20 | hays | I'm kinda diggin my mac mini |
| 04:36.24 | loren | wow |
| 04:36.33 | Alethes | 11:42PM up 29 days, 4:20, 1 user, load averages: 0.27, 0.35, 0.3 |
| 04:36.35 | loren | i dont mind turning it off for the night rofl |
| 04:36.40 | Alethes | that's not bad for a workstation |
| 04:36.54 | Alethes | the most I've gotten is about 60 days before the power flakes out on me |
| 04:36.55 | loren | I dont know my tech-savvy stats lol |
| 04:36.58 | slayerbob | heh my desktop hardly ever gets more than two weeks |
| 04:37.01 | Alethes | I really should get a UPS |
| 04:37.07 | slayerbob | but that is cos i reboot it into windows for killaging |
| 04:37.17 | hays | 23:44:45 up 81 days, 12:32, 1 user, load average: 0.07, 0.02, 0.00 |
| 04:37.22 | loren | gah |
| 04:37.33 | loren | slayerbob: man, windows shivvers** |
| 04:37.39 | slayerbob | loren: yeah i know |
| 04:37.42 | slayerbob | scares me too |
| 04:37.47 | loren | slayerbob: my windows compy died the other day |
| 04:38.06 | slayerbob | loren: suicide or murder ? |
| 04:38.13 | _jorgp | anyone else experience any crashes with kaffeine when playing a video and trying to take a snapshot? |
| 04:38.15 | loren | slayerbob: for the first time on XP i got the blue screen of death and i hooked up my 8-gb hd to my linux pc, oh suicide |
| 04:38.25 | canllaith | http://www.hoult.org/~canllaith/screenshots/uptime.png |
| 04:38.26 | canllaith | :) |
| 04:38.27 | slayerbob | heh |
| 04:38.27 | loren | i very much dislike kaffine |
| 04:38.32 | loren | so i use Xine |
| 04:38.38 | canllaith | one of these days. |
| 04:38.40 | slayerbob | LOL |
| 04:38.54 | slayerbob | that really was a bit lax of us not upgrading the kernel for almost a year :P |
| 04:38.58 | canllaith | um yes :$ |
| 04:39.03 | loren | haha |
| 04:39.08 | loren | im on a crappy Xandros Kernel |
| 04:39.18 | loren | now i figured out why not to use Xandros hehe |
| 04:39.27 | loren | it's good for dummies and easilly install apps |
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| 04:39.33 | loren | but once i figured out apt-get i dunt need it |
| 04:39.36 | slayerbob | and we only upgraded it because steve had something like 20GB of traffic stolen by someone with a rootkit and we didn't want to be next :P |
| 04:39.47 | loren | 0_o owch |
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| 04:40.08 | canllaith | Yeah, and that's expensive in NZ since we have to pay for our traffic by teh MB... |
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| 04:40.09 | loren | how do you upgrade your kernel? you can do that without crashing everything on top of it? |
| 04:40.17 | loren | owie |
| 04:40.20 | canllaith | You download one from kernel.org and compile it |
| 04:40.22 | slayerbob | heh nah you have to reboot the machine |
| 04:40.30 | canllaith | Then you add an entry into your bootloader, and boot into it. |
| 04:40.39 | loren | do you know how to add "realtime" to kernel? |
| 04:40.43 | slayerbob | although it would be very cool if you could swap kernels while running |
| 04:40.49 | loren | haha yeah |
| 04:40.54 | canllaith | preemptible kernel ? |
| 04:41.04 | canllaith | No? 'realtime' ? What do you mean ? |
| 04:41.04 | loren | preemptible kernel? |
| 04:41.14 | loren | i try to run Jack so i can run Ardour |
| 04:41.19 | canllaith | yikes :( |
| 04:41.22 | loren | and it tells me Kernel 2.6 doesn't support Realtime capabilties |
| 04:41.35 | canllaith | ahah! kolabrc |
| 04:41.38 | loren | Xandros:/home/owner# jackstart |
| 04:41.39 | loren | jackstart: cannot get realtime capabilities, current capabilities are: |
| 04:41.39 | loren | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:41.39 | loren | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:41.39 | loren | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:41.42 | Roey | loren: does kernel 2.6 + low latency work? |
| 04:41.57 | Roey | loren: or how about kernel 2.6 + preemptible kernel, does this work too? |
| 04:42.27 | loren | i hear you can make it have low latency, but is a concern because im going to use this comp for recording, i know there's an option somewhere that changes the latency but i think it might be unstable |
| 04:43.39 | ankurnayak | my pc hangs a lot after i have upgraded to kde3.4.....any ideas why??? |
| 04:43.44 | loren | Roey: the way i see it, everything's going to eventually end up at Kernel 2.6, so the chances are someone's figured out how to get low latency |
| 04:43.58 | loren | ankurnayak: what do you mean by hangs? |
| 04:44.15 | loren | hmmh, that does sound strange though |
| 04:44.34 | ankurnayak | loren, hangs means nothing works and i have to restart... |
| 04:45.10 | canllaith | ankurnayak: did you upgrade anything else other than KDE ? |
| 04:45.25 | loren | ankurnayak: owch, so you can't even get into kde, shoot.. you could try to get into the command interface and uninstall KDE3.4 and either downgrade or reinstall it |
| 04:45.31 | ankurnayak | canllaith yup...gnome... |
| 04:45.44 | canllaith | ankurnayak: and does your Gnome still work fine ? |
| 04:46.02 | ankurnayak | yeah it works...i think so...though these days i have started using kde.... |
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| 04:46.12 | scrooge | :) |
| 04:46.16 | scrooge | *burp* |
| 04:46.18 | scrooge | 'scuse me :S |
| 04:46.21 | loren | ankurnayak: what distribution are you using? |
| 04:46.25 | loren | curious |
| 04:46.25 | ankurnayak | fc2 |
| 04:46.34 | loren | owch |
| 04:46.42 | canllaith | ankurnayak: Two things to try. |
| 04:46.46 | canllaith | Try logging into Gnome to see if it works fine. |
| 04:46.59 | canllaith | If it does, create an entirely new user that has never existed on your system before, and try to log into KDE as that user. |
| 04:47.38 | loren | BTW: FC4 comes out soon and will most likely have KDE3.4 in it so you also have that option when it becomes available |
| 04:47.57 | ankurnayak | ok |
| 04:48.18 | ankurnayak | should i upgrade my kernel version..... |
| 04:48.24 | ankurnayak | might helpP?? |
| 04:48.33 | loren | i used to like Fedora, but then i figured out about KDE hehe, and got Linux running on a nicer box, kernel? dunno, im not to linux savvy |
| 04:48.52 | loren | does the computer have any important files on it? |
| 04:48.59 | ankurnayak | yeah... |
| 04:49.24 | loren | =o nvm then hehe, coz imo i would have suggested checking out Kubuntu |
| 04:50.10 | ankurnayak | Kubuntu?? |
| 04:50.20 | loren | it's just released with KDE3.4 |
| 04:50.27 | scrooge | kubuntu is wat? |
| 04:50.28 | ankurnayak | oh |
| 04:50.29 | scrooge | fedora? |
| 04:50.35 | scrooge | debian? |
| 04:50.47 | loren | debian based |
| 04:50.54 | scrooge | k |
| 04:51.21 | ankurnayak | one more thing...how do i set shortcut keys for increasing or dec volume..... |
| 04:52.27 | scrooge | ankurnayak, do u have multimedia keys? |
| 04:52.34 | ankurnayak | no |
| 04:52.46 | scrooge | ahh. then just go into khotkeys |
| 04:53.03 | scrooge | in control center -> reginaol...bla bla bla -> khotkeys |
| 04:53.07 | scrooge | regional |
| 04:53.14 | ankurnayak | then |
| 04:53.37 | scrooge | new action |
| 04:53.49 | scrooge | and set it up |
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| 04:54.13 | ankurnayak | i cant find volume anywhere there?? |
| 04:54.46 | scrooge | well, theres nothing that easy to change volume. have to either script it or thru amixer maybe |
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| 04:55.03 | canllaith | Yes there is ... |
| 04:55.05 | scrooge | liks set the "vol up" shortcut buttons to "amixer set Master +5" |
| 04:55.06 | scrooge | ? |
| 04:55.12 | scrooge | canllaith, !? |
| 04:55.21 | canllaith | Look under kcontrol -> Regional & Accessibility -> Keyboard shortcuts |
| 04:55.22 | ankurnayak | where?? |
| 04:55.45 | canllaith | mmm where is it |
| 04:56.17 | scrooge | canllaith, using the kb or multimedia keys? |
| 04:56.22 | scrooge | i use multimedia keys on the desktop |
| 04:56.29 | scrooge | i want these dam Fn buttons to work tho! |
| 04:56.52 | canllaith | You need to use xmodmap to map them first |
| 04:56.55 | straw | scrooge: what model kb? |
| 04:57.03 | canllaith | Otherwise they don't generate an event in X |
| 04:57.06 | scrooge | logitech elite |
| 04:57.17 | scrooge | xmodmap...ok, trying that |
| 04:57.33 | straw | ah, i have logitech internet kb |
| 04:57.33 | canllaith | Gosh darn it, where is that option to change KDE volume with keyboard shortcuts? It's not in Kmix |
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| 04:58.07 | ankurnayak | canllaith, i too tried a lot but couldnt find it anywhere |
| 04:58.13 | canllaith | I do have it working |
| 04:58.18 | canllaith | I can't bloody remember where I did it though |
| 04:58.28 | scrooge | heh |
| 04:58.33 | canllaith | oooh I know |
| 04:58.42 | straw | hm, khotkeys? |
| 04:59.01 | Alethes | you have to have the right keyboard type selected, then the media key options will be available in the regional/accessiblity settings |
| 04:59.10 | canllaith | No, I did it manually using xmodmap.... |
| 04:59.21 | scrooge | i see a mod3 with nothing |
| 04:59.22 | straw | Alethes is right, though |
| 04:59.29 | scrooge | how u supposed to tell which is wat? lol |
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| 05:00.00 | scrooge | :P |
| 05:00.04 | Alethes | heh |
| 05:00.05 | scrooge | your left d00d! |
| 05:00.16 | Alethes | politically? |
| 05:00.17 | Alethes | heh |
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| 05:00.18 | Alethes | not quite |
| 05:00.23 | scrooge | lol |
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| 05:00.49 | ankurnayak | Alethes, do i need to have mm k/b for enabling media key options... |
| 05:01.25 | Alethes | I assumed that's what you were trying to accomplish |
| 05:01.26 | straw | input is pretty crappy for many newer devices, atm |
| 05:01.43 | scrooge | i set logicdp in xorg,conf for my kb |
| 05:01.48 | straw | http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2340 |
| 05:01.54 | scrooge | the only way kmilo would pick it up |
| 05:01.59 | Alethes | otherwise, you'd probably have to do the xmodmap thing |
| 05:02.01 | ankurnayak | i dont have multimedia keys...i just want to enable volume control through shortcuts |
| 05:02.06 | Alethes | dunno |
| 05:02.10 | straw | comments 2 & 3 are me. big ugly grody hack |
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| 05:02.26 | scrooge | xmodmap!? |
| 05:03.13 | ankurnayak | Alethes, xmodmap thing??not clear.... |
| 05:03.25 | Octane | whats the best way to import thunderbird's crap to KMAil |
| 05:03.26 | Alethes | it's a pain in the ass :) |
| 05:03.34 | Alethes | wait a sec |
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| 05:04.27 | ankurnayak | So, i cant set up volume control through shortcut keys....:((((( |
| 05:04.29 | scrooge | ok this makes NO SENSE to me :/ |
| 05:04.43 | Alethes | wait! |
| 05:04.44 | Alethes | I have it :D |
| 05:04.55 | straw | yeah. it's all very ugly, scrooge :/ |
| 05:05.08 | Alethes | heh |
| 05:05.17 | scrooge | ;/ |
| 05:05.42 | Alethes | dcop kmix Mixer0 increaseVolume |
| 05:05.48 | Alethes | dcop kmix Mixer0 decreaseVolume |
| 05:05.53 | Alethes | set hotkeys to those commands |
| 05:06.10 | Alethes | dcop kmix Mixer0 decreaseVolume(1) I think |
| 05:06.22 | ankurnayak | i should create new action for it |
| 05:06.24 | ankurnayak | ?? |
| 05:06.26 | straw | scrooge: i don't see your kb as being specifically supported by xkb. so it's gonna have to be a bit of hacking on your part |
| 05:06.46 | scrooge | well, i knew that part...its a laptop keyboard |
| 05:06.56 | canllaith | I could have sworn that all I did was map it to XF86VolumeUp (or something similar) etc |
| 05:06.57 | scrooge | the logitech elite is supported |
| 05:07.04 | Alethes | ankurnayak: yeah, I think using dcop and khotkeys is your best bet if you don't have a mm keyboard |
| 05:07.05 | scrooge | its called cordless pro...rofl |
| 05:07.12 | straw | oh, ok |
| 05:07.24 | scrooge | i just want Fn buttons working :( |
| 05:07.48 | ankurnayak | Alethes, what does dcop do exactly |
| 05:08.15 | Alethes | dcop is for interprocess communication (short version) :) |
| 05:08.21 | scrooge | lol |
| 05:08.34 | straw | scrooge: setxkbmap -model logicdp -layout en_US -variant basic |
| 05:08.41 | Alethes | basically, it'll allow you to control an app remotely, using shell scripts and such |
| 05:08.54 | straw | scrooge: see if that gets you anywhere |
| 05:08.55 | brucehoult | slayerbob: you might appreciate this: http://www.retro.com/hooocch/acezone.html |
| 05:08.57 | Alethes | canllaith: 'cause that wouldn't be usable :o |
| 05:09.13 | scrooge | straw, eh? logicdp is the desktop which works fine, this is lappy :) |
| 05:09.28 | chavo | canllaith, you can set them lower, just manually type the number in |
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| 05:09.41 | canllaith | mmm thanks chavo :) |
| 05:09.42 | chavo | not that they'd be usable though |
| 05:09.50 | canllaith | um.... if you say so |
| 05:09.57 | slayerbob | lol brucehoult |
| 05:10.01 | straw | scrooge: i dunno, then :) good luck ;) |
| 05:10.05 | scrooge | :P |
| 05:10.06 | scrooge | lol |
| 05:10.14 | ankurnayak | Alethes, will i get any graphical thing indicating what is the current volume.... |
| 05:10.14 | canllaith | I guess you're not on a 245x184 screen at 106x106 dpi |
| 05:10.31 | canllaith | So I guess no-one who isn't can really judge what is 'usable' on this display :) |
| 05:10.33 | Alethes | ankurnayak: doubt it |
| 05:10.40 | Alethes | it's controlling kmix though, so it might |
| 05:10.57 | ankurnayak | ok...i'll try that |
| 05:11.15 | Alethes | I'd make it increment by 5 though, not 1 |
| 05:11.20 | scrooge | yea |
| 05:11.25 | scrooge | lol...using 1 might take forevre |
| 05:11.29 | scrooge | re |
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| 05:11.51 | chavo | canllaith, I meant not that gnome would be usable :P |
| 05:11.51 | Alethes | heh |
| 05:12.24 | canllaith | lol gnome isn't usable anyway chavo ;) :P |
| 05:12.33 | canllaith | They could make the fonts 14pt and I still would find it hard to use... |
| 05:12.35 | canllaith | :P |
| 05:12.38 | chavo | that's what I meant. |
| 05:12.52 | canllaith | I see ;) Just ignore me then, I have no sense of humour and always miss the joke. |
| 05:14.21 | scrooge | lol |
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| 05:18.09 | ankurnayak | Alethes, shortcut not working |
| 05:18.11 | canllaith | urgh. Greenday out of tinny laptop speakers is awful. |
| 05:18.27 | Alethes | greenday out of any speakers is awful |
| 05:18.30 | canllaith | heh wow, amarok has gotten some very cool visualisations |
| 05:18.48 | chavo | greenday rocks, get some decent headphones. |
| 05:18.50 | Alethes | ankurnayak: might wanna ask somebody else or ask me again tomorrow, I'm barely awake |
| 05:19.05 | canllaith | Although they need a new battery, it went flat. |
| 05:19.23 | ankurnayak | Alethes, ok...thanks.... |
| 05:19.25 | badtzmark | anyone mod the looks of KDE? |
| 05:19.31 | canllaith | of course |
| 05:19.51 | canllaith | http://www.hoult.org/~canllaith/screenshots/index.html |
| 05:19.54 | Alethes | Pimp My KDE |
| 05:20.20 | badtzmark | ahaha |
| 05:21.18 | badtzmark | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v314/mark_vincent/box.jpg |
| 05:21.19 | canllaith | * No-one here is getting out alive... this time I've really lost my mind and I don't care... * |
| 05:21.20 | badtzmark | this is mine |
| 05:22.19 | canllaith | http://www.hoult.org/~canllaith/foo/more-purple-crushed.png |
| 05:22.21 | canllaith | That's my fav. |
| 05:22.46 | canllaith | * I don't know you, but I think I hate you.... you're the reason for my misery... * |
| 05:23.10 | canllaith | hahaha did I mention I'm moving to Canada to annoy aseigo more effectively? |
| 05:23.18 | Alethes | haha |
| 05:23.31 | ankurnayak | :))) |
| 05:23.39 | straw | i sold weed to green day's years ago when they played foufounes electrique in montreal :) |
| 05:23.42 | canllaith | ..... and that I'm using headphones so you can't hear my greenday? :P |
| 05:23.44 | canllaith | straw: LOL! |
| 05:23.53 | straw | green day's drummer, thet is |
| 05:24.26 | Octane | that is SEXXXXXXXXXXXY |
| 05:24.27 | canllaith | mmmmmmmm? |
| 05:24.29 | canllaith | Which one? :) |
| 05:24.31 | straw | yeah, it was funny. all these young girls encircled the singer |
| 05:24.38 | Octane | i only saw the fist one |
| 05:24.38 | canllaith | the purple one? |
| 05:24.39 | Octane | LOL |
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| 05:25.12 | straw | while he sat there hammered and looking bored and jaded :) |
| 05:25.17 | ignatz | there is a lot of FUD about installing 3.4 will break things? is this BS ? |
| 05:25.26 | canllaith | Define 'break things' and where did you hear this? |
| 05:25.30 | canllaith | Installing 3.4 went perfectly hre |
| 05:25.33 | ignatz | in ##mandrake |
| 05:25.41 | Alethes | in #gnome? heh |
| 05:25.43 | canllaith | Maybe mandrake packages are broken, I don't know |
| 05:25.58 | canllaith | That's something you'd have to sort out with Mandrake ... and nothing to do with us :) |
| 05:26.15 | Alethes | except that canllaith likes to sabotage mandrake packages |
| 05:26.18 | scrooge | o.0 |
| 05:26.20 | canllaith | :o I only did that ONCE |
| 05:26.21 | scrooge | she does eh |
| 05:26.23 | straw | that's the mdk kde packagers' problem |
| 05:26.33 | canllaith | Man, you can help a billion newbies.... but sabotage ONE BLOODY PACKAGE |
| 05:26.36 | canllaith | and you never hear the end of it |
| 05:26.41 | Alethes | haha |
| 05:26.55 | straw | 3.4 installed and works fine on fc3 |
| 05:26.58 | canllaith | Look, I thought they'd *appreciate* my custom pink wallpapers and wingtunes system sounds |
| 05:27.02 | canllaith | Leave me alone. |
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| 05:27.04 | ignatz | i have a kernel from the kernel org and not using mandrake kernel |
| 05:27.19 | scrooge | lmfao! |
| 05:27.24 | scrooge | pink wallpapers |
| 05:27.25 | scrooge | pwn3d |
| 05:27.26 | aum | hi - i'm on the phone to a mandrake newbie (I don't have mandrake here) - she's got an external usb dialup modem - what does she need to do to configure that modem into kppp? |
| 05:27.27 | straw | coupla minor glitches |
| 05:27.47 | canllaith | aum: Has mandrake installed the correct drivers for her modem? |
| 05:28.16 | aum | didn't detect her modem |
| 05:28.34 | straw | aum: depends on whether the modem has a hardware uart, or needs a driver |
| 05:28.39 | canllaith | In that case she'll have to figure out if linux supports her usb modem, and if so how to get the drivers installed. |
| 05:28.50 | canllaith | If it's a usb modem then chances are it's what's known as a 'winmodem' and wont be that easy to get working. |
| 05:29.07 | aum | straw: it's a usb dialup modem |
| 05:29.27 | straw | aum: make/model for google? |
| 05:29.30 | ignatz | i don't think just passing this off on 'mandrake' is the answer - fedora dropped kde what is next? |
| 05:29.40 | canllaith | ignatz: passing what off, sorry? |
| 05:29.51 | canllaith | and Slackware just dropped gnome, what does that have to do with anything? |
| 05:30.03 | ignatz | that there is FUD about kde 3.4 breaking things |
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| 05:30.09 | straw | canllaith: did you get nvidia's new driver release? |
| 05:30.15 | canllaith | ignatz: It doesn't on gentoo slackware suse or anything else. |
| 05:30.28 | canllaith | We don't provide packages, only sources. Your distro packages them into RPM. |
| 05:30.46 | canllaith | If you have problems installing your distro's RPM, only they can help you. |
| 05:30.48 | straw | composite/render is slightly better |
| 05:30.52 | ignatz | i do source |
| 05:30.54 | canllaith | straw: oooh really? I'll grab them later :) |
| 05:31.09 | canllaith | ignatz: then the only way you can break things upgrading to 3.4 is if you mess up the compilation yourself. |
| 05:31.09 | chavo | there are no official mandrake 3.4 rpms and won't be for some time. |
| 05:31.13 | straw | *seems* like it, at any rate |
| 05:31.16 | canllaith | Which is entirely possible of course |
| 05:31.24 | canllaith | ...... but then that's not really KDE breaking things :) |
| 05:31.39 | chavo | I run 3.4 on Mandrake, no problems. |
| 05:32.02 | canllaith | To be safe, just compile it to use a different prefix so it doesn't overwrite your previous KDE. That way you don't have to uninstall it until you've satisfied yourself the new one works ok. |
| 05:32.06 | ignatz | i have never had any problems with kde on mandrake - but the level against 3.4 is unusually high |
| 05:32.07 | chavo | But I build it from source. No KDE packages. |
| 05:32.35 | canllaith | For every distro, you can download bad packages made by people who don't know what they are doing. |
| 05:32.40 | chavo | ignatz, just install in a different prefix, as canllaith said. |
| 05:33.02 | canllaith | If you install those it's very much at your own risk and I imagine this is the case here. Or, people are using Konstruct when they don't understand the first thing about compiling software.. and then, they get it wrong. |
| 05:33.22 | ignatz | yes i will use a different prefix |
| 05:33.29 | canllaith | Then nothing to worry about :) |
| 05:33.39 | chavo | canllaith, they are very wierd about not using rpms in #mandrake |
| 05:33.45 | canllaith | Back up your $KDEHOME too, just in case. |
| 05:34.03 | canllaith | chavo: I haven't been in there in a very long time. |
| 05:34.34 | straw | chavo: and rightly so. just don't install over anything owned by the package database |
| 05:34.51 | canllaith | brucehoult was the last friend of mine who used an RPM based distro and he recenly switched to Slackware. |
| 05:35.15 | straw | chavo: think of /usr/local and/or /opt as the place to put hand compiled apps |
| 05:35.18 | Alethes | Translation: "if you use rpms, you're no friend of mine!" |
| 05:35.20 | Alethes | :) |
| 05:35.45 | chavo | straw, I do. |
| 05:36.15 | straw | bah. rpm is a simple package management system |
| 05:36.18 | chavo | Actually, I'm running kubuntu on my desktop now anyway. |
| 05:38.33 | ignatz | 3.4 compiled with NO problems and it loaded perfectly - nice to have a bright clean new konqueror |
| 05:38.59 | ignatz | on amd64 x86_64 just for the record |
| 05:39.57 | scrooge | mandrake? |
| 05:40.01 | scrooge | the one u b0rk3d? |
| 05:40.04 | scrooge | *cough* |
| 05:40.04 | canllaith | I don't have any problems at all with RPM. It's just a convenient label |
| 05:40.10 | canllaith | lol alethes was kidding..... |
| 05:40.21 | canllaith | 'RPM based' is easier than typing redhat/suse/mandrake... etc |
| 05:40.28 | scrooge | haha true |
| 05:40.29 | scrooge | :P |
| 05:40.35 | straw | canllaith: cool. i maintain about 20 packages in my little private repo |
| 05:40.40 | canllaith | :) |
| 05:40.46 | canllaith | We still have some redhat 9 servers around the place |
| 05:40.59 | canllaith | When we feel we need to upgrade them to something we'll shift them to Slackware I imagine... but no hurry. |
| 05:41.09 | loren | backages |
| 05:41.14 | straw | once you grok the .spec rpm is easy and convenient |
| 05:41.29 | loren | 0_o rpms 0_o |
| 05:41.29 | ignatz | konqueror works on ratpoison also (so far) |
| 05:41.31 | loren | 0_o |
| 05:41.46 | loren | 0_o |
| 05:41.46 | loren | haha |
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| 05:42.18 | canllaith | straw: the only thing that annoys me about building spec files is rpmbuild insists on untarring the sources and starting from scratch again :P |
| 05:42.35 | canllaith | This was before I'd installed ccache, so it made the 3 attempts before I got the .spec right rather annoyingly long. |
| 05:42.41 | straw | canllaith: yeah, that's bothersome |
| 05:42.46 | loren | you do know that you can get debian apt-get or i think emerge on RPM based distributions |
| 05:43.01 | loren | which will usually automatically install the software by saying a command like |
| 05:43.09 | loren | apt-get install kate |
| 05:43.13 | canllaith | This was the first .spec file I'd written (embarrassingly enough, that's availible on svn somewhere) so it took me a few times |
| 05:43.16 | straw | canllaith: rpmbuild -bi --short-circuit |
| 05:43.27 | loren | oh rpm-build nvm haha |
| 05:43.30 | canllaith | straw: I know, you can test every stage |
| 05:43.35 | straw | canllaith: ok |
| 05:43.48 | chavo | loren, on mandrake you use urpmi -> urpmi kate |
| 05:43.51 | canllaith | There is no stage though that just says 'Don't untar or ./configure the sources again' though lol |
| 05:44.12 | loren | chavo: really? i wasn't aware mandrake had the equivelent of apt-get |
| 05:44.19 | canllaith | Every distro does, really. |
| 05:44.26 | loren | chavo: man i'm jumping ships like crazy |
| 05:44.29 | canllaith | Even Slackware has slapt-get and swaret as 3rd party solutions |
| 05:44.35 | straw | canllaith: you can work around that, but it's lame |
| 05:44.45 | canllaith | straw: aye, it is lame. That's my only beef with RPM really |
| 05:44.47 | loren | i kno about that one, heard it somewhere |
| 05:45.06 | canllaith | Every other negative opinion I've ever seen expressed about RPM comes down to: |
| 05:45.07 | ankurnayak | Is there any window manager which gives transparent background?? |
| 05:45.14 | canllaith | The person installing the RPM hasn't read man rpm |
| 05:45.25 | canllaith | The person who built the RPM is clueless and should be shot. |
| 05:45.34 | loren | rofl |
| 05:45.40 | ankurnayak | :)) |
| 05:45.55 | loren | ah ankurnayak is still here |
| 05:46.04 | straw | canllaith: yeah. rpmlint ought to be integrated in to rpm |
| 05:46.05 | ankurnayak | yup.. |
| 05:46.08 | loren | i went downstairs ate and watched a little bit of the incredibles |
| 05:46.24 | loren | oh |
| 05:46.57 | loren | Q: anyone know how to get rid of the border on the Kicker, or K Panel if you add a specific background image to it? |
| 05:47.07 | loren | Q; or did they change that in KDE3.4 |
| 05:47.44 | canllaith | The border is currently slightly configurable in cvs head iirc |
| 05:47.48 | ankurnayak | loren, i got the shortcut for volume control working not through kmix but amixer....but i dont get any graphics which can indicate what the current volume.... |
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| 05:48.04 | chavo | loren, it's still there. |
| 05:48.13 | loren | it's still there? |
| 05:48.27 | canllaith | erm. Where does kwallet live? |
| 05:48.28 | chavo | yes |
| 05:48.35 | loren | canllaith: where is the iirc head located at? or do i need to download it and recompile |
| 05:48.50 | canllaith | iirc = if I recall correctly |
| 05:49.02 | canllaith | cvs head = the current development version, unstable. |
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| 05:49.18 | loren | ankurnayak: very good, i thought volume was + or -, but maby your system is different, i hear good things about kamixer, and amixer is prolly pretty good |
| 05:49.47 | loren | ankurnayak: owch, that's why i dont use Fedora hehe, well i guess i dont use it coz i like other distros |
| 05:50.01 | loren | canllaith: there's a trance command, but i forgot it |
| 05:50.11 | canllaith | trance ? |
| 05:50.14 | loren | whoops, trace |
| 05:50.33 | jsubl2 | strace |
| 05:50.37 | loren | strace? |
| 05:50.39 | loren | that must be it |
| 05:51.16 | loren | oh crap |
| 05:51.33 | loren | nvm, i tired to strace ut2004, but it started up the program for a sec |
| 05:51.37 | loren | weird 0_o |
| 05:51.55 | straw | heh |
| 05:52.26 | ankurnayak | nvm == ??? |
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| 05:53.26 | loren | hm |
| 05:53.51 | scrooge | nevermind == nvm |
| 05:53.51 | scrooge | lol |
| 05:54.04 | loren | yar |
| 05:54.08 | loren | yar = yar |
| 05:54.12 | scrooge | :P |
| 05:54.17 | brucehoult | lol omg nvm brb iirc |
| 05:54.21 | loren | if yar = yar, inteligence++ |
| 05:54.34 | scrooge | OMGROFLBBQ! |
| 05:54.41 | ankurnayak | :))))))))) |
| 05:55.12 | loren | 0_o |
| 05:55.24 | loren | ^_~ |
| 05:56.05 | brucehoult | a few weeks ago I was driving along and the car in front of me had the license plate "omgwtf". I LOL'd but the person with me didn't get it at all :-( |
| 05:56.21 | scrooge | lol |
| 05:56.31 | slayerbob | LOL |
| 05:56.44 | ankurnayak | rotfl |
| 05:56.47 | loren | haha |
| 05:56.48 | loren | XD |
| 05:57.11 | loren | i should get a "linux" licensplate |
| 05:57.16 | loren | livekde |
| 05:58.34 | slayerbob | they let you do that ? |
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| 05:58.52 | brucehoult | slayerbob: you've seen my bike |
| 05:58.58 | Octane | where would i open koffice's address book |
| 05:59.00 | loren | slayerbob: ? |
| 05:59.00 | slayerbob | transfer license plates between vehicles i mean... |
| 05:59.08 | loren | oh |
| 05:59.17 | brucehoult | yes. sure |
| 05:59.19 | loren | slayerbob: uhm, if you register it i guess |
| 05:59.22 | canllaith | ack kontact broke my kontacts |
| 05:59.26 | canllaith | :( |
| 05:59.33 | scrooge | :S |
| 05:59.36 | scrooge | sucks |
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| 05:59.39 | canllaith | Every time I click on a contact and do 'add to address book' it deletes every other contact in my address book |
| 05:59.48 | brucehoult | http://koti.mbnet.fi/maajussi/nz_97/nz2pic28.jpg |
| 05:59.52 | canllaith | The book then containts that single contact. |
| 06:00.15 | canllaith | contains* |
| 06:00.18 | Petro | hey |
| 06:00.20 | straw | canllaith: that's not very productive :| |
| 06:00.27 | brucehoult | that was just over eight years ago, but still the same motorcycle |
| 06:00.49 | canllaith | No, it's not.... and the current state of Kontact makes buying a Mac look better and better every day. |
| 06:01.03 | brucehoult | not to mention kmail imap |
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| 06:01.10 | loren | pff |
| 06:01.15 | ankurnayak | Does anyone know of a translucent theme for kde?? |
| 06:01.18 | loren | i'll stick with my x86 |
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| 06:01.25 | daum | anyone know why when i updated to 3.4.0 kde it still loaded up my .3.3 |
| 06:01.27 | loren | Crystal |
| 06:01.36 | loren | http://www.kde-look.org |
| 06:01.38 | loren | i think |
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| 06:02.05 | loren | daum: that's very strange, i think something simular happened to me on Xandros, it's probably in a config file somewhere, how did you do this update? |
| 06:03.04 | brucehoult | slayerbob: if you have a personalized plate then it belongs to you. If you want to sell a vehicle it is on, but nto sell the plate, then you just pay $28 (last time I did it) to NZ Post for a new, ordinary, plate for the vehicle. |
| 06:03.50 | slayerbob | ah ok |
| 06:04.44 | loren | hmmh |
| 06:04.49 | loren | what would be a good plate hmmmh |
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| 06:09.57 | loren | wow, a lot happenin |
| 06:10.01 | loren | oh it died |
| 06:13.55 | testify | Is there any way of removing the taskbar from the kicker so that it's in its own bar? |
| 06:14.04 | canllaith | Yes |
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| 06:14.15 | testify | I figured so |
| 06:14.24 | canllaith | Right click on kicker -> Add to panel -> Panel -> External taskbar |
| 06:14.25 | testify | Any place you can direct me to show me how? |
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| 06:14.40 | testify | nice |
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| 06:16.23 | testify | thanks |
| 06:17.35 | scrooge | that |
| 06:17.38 | scrooge | SUCKED |
| 06:18.06 | scrooge | i just lost a days worth of konq tabs across 6 desktops |
| 06:18.13 | scrooge | and konsole sessions up the arse |
| 06:18.14 | scrooge | :| |
| 06:18.28 | eean | :| |
| 06:18.50 | scrooge | kpager2 is EVILLLLLL with kde 3.4! |
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| 06:19.17 | daum | how do i turn off these pop up tips that come up when i hold my cursor over the menu bar |
| 06:19.24 | scrooge | OMFG my kde config changes are gone also |
| 06:19.40 | loren | KDE has a config file? |
| 06:19.41 | daum | nvm |
| 06:19.44 | loren | like a single Config file? |
| 06:19.49 | scrooge | daum, no |
| 06:19.50 | daum | er nvm i still need the help |
| 06:19.58 | scrooge | daum, right click panel |
| 06:20.10 | scrooge | configure panel -> appearance tab |
| 06:20.22 | scrooge | Enable icon mnouseover effects |
| 06:20.55 | daum | yar just found it out=p |
| 06:20.57 | daum | thanks sir |
| 06:21.08 | daum | anysweet features of the 3.4 i should be aware of? |
| 06:21.37 | Octane | yes the entire thing |
| 06:21.39 | scrooge | heh |
| 06:21.40 | daum | lol |
| 06:21.59 | daum | but any other ones that i might not notice that are diff from 3.3? |
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| 06:22.09 | Octane | lots of visualization changes |
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| 06:22.47 | daum | ok |
| 06:27.17 | ankurnayak | loren, downloaded crystalColor theme ...how do i customize it to get transparency.... |
| 06:27.59 | loren | ankurnayak: you downloaded it? 0_o i thought it's automagixally has the transparency in affect |
| 06:28.04 | loren | is youre OpenGL driver installed? |
| 06:28.59 | loren | coz imo crystal uses GL |
| 06:29.12 | ankurnayak | i dont know....how do i find |
| 06:29.17 | loren | no idea lol |
| 06:29.24 | loren | can you run 3D games on your box? |
| 06:29.31 | ankurnayak | never tried..... |
| 06:29.36 | ankurnayak | i can run chromium |
| 06:30.20 | ankurnayak | 3D-Games....??? |
| 06:30.25 | loren | UT2004 |
| 06:30.27 | loren | Doom3 |
| 06:30.28 | loren | uhm |
| 06:30.30 | loren | dunno |
| 06:30.32 | loren | 1 sec |
| 06:30.46 | loren | http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=13969 |
| 06:30.50 | loren | and this is the theme you downloaded? |
| 06:30.56 | loren | do you have DSL just curious |
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| 06:31.51 | ankurnayak | loren, i can run quake3 |
| 06:31.58 | loren | ok |
| 06:32.00 | loren | GL is working |
| 06:32.03 | loren | let me check my box a sec |
| 06:32.29 | Octane | hey |
| 06:32.36 | Octane | can i go crazy for one sec |
| 06:32.45 | Octane | i didnt realize how wonderful and integrated KDEPIM WAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 |
| 06:32.47 | Octane | okay im done |
| 06:33.01 | Dhraakellian | *blinkblink?* |
| 06:33.09 | loren | oh ankurnayak |
| 06:33.16 | loren | you know that crystal theme i was talking about |
| 06:33.30 | loren | it uses transparency and gets your desktop in the background |
| 06:33.34 | loren | move the window around |
| 06:33.39 | loren | and you'll see your desktop |
| 06:33.44 | loren | that's the kindof transparency it uses |
| 06:34.09 | ankurnayak | i think i downloaded http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=16532&id=1 |
| 06:34.49 | loren | hmh |
| 06:34.52 | loren | not sure about that one |
| 06:34.59 | ankurnayak | i'll try yours |
| 06:35.35 | loren | but in the control center, under windows borders, if you get the GL one, it's just called Crystal-GL and worked off the go for me |
| 06:37.03 | ankurnayak | i cant find any "windows borders" in my control center... |
| 06:37.44 | loren | windows decorations under display |
| 06:37.45 | loren | i think |
| 06:37.56 | loren | oh |
| 06:38.01 | loren | appearance & themes |
| 06:39.50 | loren | Kontact? |
| 06:39.53 | loren | i've never really used it |
| 06:39.56 | loren | what is it for |
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| 06:40.26 | ankurnayak | loren, no crystal-gl under "windows decorations".... |
| 06:41.06 | loren | wow |
| 06:41.50 | ankurnayak | loren, i have downloaded "crystal" theme 13969....how do i install it.... |
| 06:41.54 | loren | ankurnayak: hmmh, im not sure, but in Gnome a while back i had a problem where it wouldn't install icons for themes, it's a different system of corse, but i was using FC3 |
| 06:42.04 | loren | what is the file extension? |
| 06:42.19 | loren | .rpm ? |
| 06:42.27 | ankurnayak | i have downloaded the source.....tar.bz2 |
| 06:42.37 | loren | oh, alright |
| 06:42.43 | ankurnayak | there isnt one for fc2 |
| 06:42.46 | loren | extract the tar ball to /home/username |
| 06:42.54 | loren | or whatever |
| 06:42.58 | ankurnayak | then |
| 06:43.08 | loren | 1 sec let me download it to look at the file structure |
| 06:43.12 | ankurnayak | ./configure --prefix=??? |
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| 06:43.57 | loren | ok downloaded |
| 06:44.05 | loren | lets see |
| 06:44.24 | loren | ok |
| 06:44.38 | loren | ankurnayak: extract crystal-0.9.2 folder to your home folder |
| 06:44.54 | loren | and tell me when to proceed with instructions |
| 06:45.15 | ankurnayak | i have extracted |
| 06:45.29 | loren | ok |
| 06:45.41 | loren | now go launch>run command |
| 06:45.47 | loren | type in "konsole" |
| 06:46.06 | ankurnayak | ok i have a termianl |
| 06:46.10 | loren | ok |
| 06:46.10 | ankurnayak | terminal* |
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| 06:46.31 | loren | akurnayak: type "cd crystal-0.9.2" |
| 06:46.35 | ankurnayak | done |
| 06:46.41 | ankurnayak | ./configure ?? |
| 06:46.48 | loren | yep |
| 06:46.49 | loren | ;) |
| 06:47.03 | ankurnayak | i dont want to install it as root |
| 06:47.05 | loren | usually it's a good idea to be root, at least i always am |
| 06:47.08 | ankurnayak | what should be the prefix |
| 06:47.10 | loren | oh |
| 06:47.21 | ankurnayak | where would it install it |
| 06:47.22 | ankurnayak | as root.. |
| 06:47.24 | loren | no idea 0_o hmmh |
| 06:47.36 | loren | im not sure, lets look in the readmen |
| 06:47.38 | loren | readme |
| 06:47.41 | Biennium | Heh. You're concerned that KDE 3.4 breaks things? KDE 3.2.2 broke things and they haven't been fixed yet. |
| 06:47.55 | _chavo | ankurnayak, install to the same prefix as KDE |
| 06:48.07 | ankurnayak | btw i have kde3.4 in some arbit place |
| 06:48.17 | Biennium | I put up with it because I'm using an unusual processor and I really like Konqueror. |
| 06:48.19 | ankurnayak | what should be the prefix |
| 06:48.25 | loren | shoot |
| 06:48.44 | loren | shoot man |
| 06:48.48 | loren | i have no idea 0_o |
| 06:50.02 | ankurnayak | loren, u said u installed the theme...??? |
| 06:50.22 | loren | yeah |
| 06:50.22 | ankurnayak | and it was working |
| 06:50.28 | loren | i used a .deb file |
| 06:50.29 | ankurnayak | from rpm |
| 06:50.33 | ankurnayak | ok |
| 06:50.37 | loren | you can prolly find a rpm |
| 06:50.38 | loren | 1 sec |
| 06:51.46 | ankurnayak | but my kde3.4 is installed at some other place...so even if i install it using rpm...will my new kde find it... |
| 06:51.48 | ankurnayak | ? |
| 06:52.08 | loren | pff, hell |
| 06:52.12 | loren | try using the mandrake RPM |
| 06:52.18 | Octane | canllaith, whats the URL to screens again |
| 06:52.19 | loren | sometimes other distro RPMs work |
| 06:52.28 | loren | least they have for me |
| 06:52.29 | loren | ;) |
| 06:52.35 | loren | sorry i cant be to much of a help |
| 06:52.40 | _chavo | ankurnayak, where is your KDE installed? |
| 06:52.43 | loren | i just started seriously using linux like 1.5 months ago |
| 06:52.57 | ankurnayak | /home/ankur/root/kde3.4 |
| 06:53.19 | _chavo | install crystal to the same prefix |
| 06:53.27 | ankurnayak | ok |
| 06:53.29 | loren | what's the prefix look like |
| 06:53.33 | loren | just curious |
| 06:53.38 | loren | ,/configure --something |
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| 06:53.44 | _chavo | ./configure -- prefix /home/ankur/root/kde3.4 |
| 06:53.52 | _chavo | --prefix |
| 06:53.53 | ankurnayak | my typing not so fast.. |
| 06:54.04 | _chavo | I can't type either. |
| 06:54.12 | ankurnayak | man u typed it before me |
| 06:54.16 | loren | haha nice |
| 06:54.22 | loren | man i suck at problem solving |
| 06:54.28 | loren | thanks for the help and info Chavo thou |
| 06:54.38 | _chavo | I copied what you typed and pasted. |
| 06:54.43 | ankurnayak | :)) |
| 06:54.44 | ankurnayak | lol |
| 06:55.07 | _chavo | I am a copy and paste machine. |
| 06:55.31 | _chavo | It's easy in linux, select the text and paste with middle button. |
| 06:55.34 | ankurnayak | anyone ....tips for improving typing |
| 06:55.48 | ankurnayak | _chavo, yeah.. |
| 06:55.56 | loren | sit at your computer 6 hours a day like me |
| 06:56.01 | loren | you'll type decently |
| 06:56.07 | loren | but then again i only type at like 60wpm |
| 06:56.16 | ankurnayak | loren, my typing speed is around 55 |
| 06:56.20 | Biennium | ankurnayak: I used Type to Learn back in first and second grade, practiced at home a bit, and eventually switched to Dvorak. |
| 06:56.20 | loren | ah |
| 06:56.28 | loren | secratery's type at like 120 |
| 06:56.34 | loren | im like damn, how the hell? haha |
| 06:56.38 | loren | or like 100 |
| 06:56.41 | ankurnayak | yeah |
| 06:56.42 | ankurnayak | same here |
| 06:56.43 | Biennium | ankurnayak: My brother says that something more effective for him was to participate in IRC. |
| 06:57.01 | ankurnayak | that;s what i m doing now....lol |
| 06:57.38 | ankurnayak | Biennium, what's ur typing speed around.. |
| 06:58.15 | loren | really? |
| 06:58.15 | loren | nice |
| 06:58.15 | loren | i actually personally never took a test until recently |
| 06:58.15 | loren | but that's me ant non Beinnium |
| 06:58.26 | ankurnayak | i make a lot of mistakes while typing... |
| 06:58.33 | Biennium | ankurnayak: I don't know anymore. Now it depends on many variables like my level of awakeness, which keyboard layout I'm using, and such. |
| 06:58.59 | loren | true |
| 06:59.04 | loren | and what type of words you're spitting out |
| 06:59.06 | Biennium | Like, that line took so long to take out because I was trying to think of a third known variable to make the sentence flow better. |
| 06:59.12 | loren | like if they're just common speach |
| 06:59.31 | ankurnayak | hmmm |
| 06:59.32 | Biennium | I really like lists of 3. |
| 06:59.59 | ankurnayak | lol |
| 07:01.29 | Biennium | I just learned the two-handed Dvorak key layout last year, and I've found it to be an amusing way to twist my brain. |
| 07:02.02 | loren | haha nice |
| 07:02.08 | ankurnayak | which finger do you use to press 6.... |
| 07:02.10 | loren | i'd prolly think twice while typing if i swiched |
| 07:02.51 | Biennium | ankurnayak: Um, left index, I think. |
| 07:03.12 | ankurnayak | hey...i use right index... |
| 07:03.19 | ankurnayak | which is the correctone |
| 07:03.26 | ankurnayak | correct one* |
| 07:03.40 | loren | did that theme thing work 4 u? |
| 07:03.42 | Biennium | Right ring finger on the numeric keypad. |
| 07:04.03 | ankurnayak | loren, not yet tried.... |
| 07:04.10 | loren | oh haha :) |
| 07:04.25 | ankurnayak | ;) |
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| 07:06.17 | ankurnayak | * Good - your configure finished. Start make now |
| 07:06.52 | ankurnayak | man i desperately want my typing speed to be atleast 80 |
| 07:07.08 | ankurnayak | i love seeing ppl typing at god level speeds |
| 07:07.22 | scrooge | o.0 |
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| 07:07.54 | loren | haha |
| 07:07.55 | ankurnayak | can someone suggest a good typing tutor |
| 07:07.55 | loren | XD |
| 07:07.56 | loren | like em? |
| 07:07.57 | Biennium | At this point in my career, my typing is fast enough for my thoughts, and most of my useful work is handwritten. |
| 07:07.58 | loren | me |
| 07:08.10 | loren | my mind and my hands are one |
| 07:08.13 | loren | you think it you type it |
| 07:08.15 | loren | that's how it goes |
| 07:08.36 | loren | it's as simple as that because if you're not like that you dont have instant access to your thoughs and keys? who knows im not thinking like i said one |
| 07:08.37 | loren | ** |
| 07:08.53 | ankurnayak | rotfl |
| 07:09.26 | ankurnayak | install complete for crystal |
| 07:09.33 | loren | awsome |
| 07:09.33 | loren | XD |
| 07:10.12 | ankurnayak | but i cant find that theme anywhere |
| 07:10.56 | loren | 0_o |
| 07:11.01 | loren | you mean window border right? |
| 07:11.06 | loren | or "window decoration" |
| 07:11.07 | ankurnayak | chavo, i think that was not the correct prefix... |
| 07:11.34 | ankurnayak | in "Theme manager" |
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| 07:12.33 | ankurnayak | the theme should have appeared in control-center-->theme manager |
| 07:12.33 | loren | go to Appearances>Windows Decorations if you havn't checked there coz imo that's where it installs it |
| 07:12.41 | ankurnayak | ok |
| 07:12.43 | loren | but maby i'm just confused lol on what you have/havn't done |
| 07:12.44 | Inv1s1ble | hey what is Ctrl+KP_Enter |
| 07:12.45 | ankurnayak | let me check |
| 07:12.47 | Inv1s1ble | ? |
| 07:13.00 | Inv1s1ble | (as far as shortcuts go..what is KP?) |
| 07:13.11 | ankurnayak | kp is for keypad |
| 07:13.21 | ankurnayak | i think so |
| 07:13.33 | ankurnayak | the one which appears on the right side |
| 07:13.33 | Inv1s1ble | oh....ok that makes sense |
| 07:13.47 | ankurnayak | there are 2 "enter"s |
| 07:13.50 | Inv1s1ble | I love amarok!!!! It's so much better than Rhythmbox... |
| 07:13.59 | loren | i love JuK |
| 07:14.03 | loren | and AmaroK of corse |
| 07:14.12 | ankurnayak | grub time... |
| 07:14.13 | loren | Rhythmbox? hmmh never tried it |
| 07:14.15 | ankurnayak | brb |
| 07:14.16 | loren | never needed to ;) |
| 07:14.17 | scrooge | are there any media players qt based like b-m-p? |
| 07:14.20 | scrooge | or xmms? :/ |
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| 07:14.36 | Biennium | Mmm. So nifty of Apple to have separate Enter and Return keys way back when. |
| 07:14.55 | loren | they're dumbasses |
| 07:14.55 | Biennium | Confused so many people when they put those separate keys as distinct keys on laptop keyboards. |
| 07:15.17 | loren | nifty as in cool? |
| 07:15.23 | loren | or |
| 07:15.27 | loren | wat was that word |
| 07:15.30 | loren | trippy |
| 07:15.32 | loren | nvm |
| 07:15.41 | loren | stupid slang lol |
| 07:15.51 | Biennium | Actually, I thought it was useful, because programs could do different actions depending on which was pressed. |
| 07:16.32 | scrooge | yes? no? |
| 07:16.35 | scrooge | heh |
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| 07:18.09 | loren | they have a return key and a enter key on keyboards? 0_o |
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| 07:19.55 | Inv1s1ble | loren: just looked at my mac keyboard, and yes they do (I have an old 132Mhz Mac running Gentoo...it's my mail server) |
| 07:20.18 | loren | nice |
| 07:20.21 | loren | that's crazy man |
| 07:20.53 | loren | Gentoo will run on something that old eh |
| 07:20.55 | loren | nice |
| 07:21.05 | loren | prolly using Gnome or nothing at all |
| 07:21.29 | Biennium | On the desktops, it was not so drastic, the Return was in the letters typing area, and the Enter was in the numeric keypad. |
| 07:21.53 | loren | ah |
| 07:21.53 | loren | i c |
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| 07:25.36 | Biennium | Eh, I'm finding flwm to be an amusing WM on my 133MHz laptop so far, but it has too little disk space so I'm running Debian on it. |
| 07:26.01 | Biennium | And Gentoo on an extremely old machine is much more fun but complicated with cross-compilers. |
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| 07:27.50 | Sirus | How can I get the mosfet-liquid package? |
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| 07:28.14 | loren | what distribution? |
| 07:28.48 | Biennium | Hm. I can't remember whether modern Apple Powerbooks have an Enter key in addition to Return, and I haven't found any sufficiently detailed pictures online. |
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| 07:29.39 | Inv1s1ble | Powerbooks don't..neither do iBooks...as much as I love OS X, their laptops are lacking |
| 07:29.59 | Inv1s1ble | page-up in a terminal doesn't send an actual page-up |
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| 07:31.45 | loren | i dislike mac |
| 07:31.59 | loren | but i've already said that ;) |
| 07:32.51 | canllaith | OSX is reasonably nice. Not overly configurable, but it's ok. |
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| 07:33.39 | Biennium | Old Powerbook... All my old Powerbooks eventually broke from use :( |
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| 07:34.24 | canllaith | This one has broken screen hinge but I think it's going to get fixed |
| 07:34.44 | canllaith | Still works fine, just have to be careful when you move it that the screen does not fall back :P |
| 07:34.51 | Biennium | Motherboards tend to fritz out on mine. |
| 07:35.02 | canllaith | http://www.hoult.org/~canllaith/foo/desk.jpg |
| 07:35.08 | canllaith | One of those (far left obviously) |
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| 07:35.19 | canllaith | Hi there marcusU :) |
| 07:35.23 | marcusU | Hello. |
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| 07:36.00 | canllaith | I'm pretty impressed by how it runs OSX given how old it is. Makes me think it must be pretty nice to use on a brand new one. |
| 07:36.45 | brucehoult | 266 screaming MHz, baby... |
| 07:36.49 | canllaith | :P |
| 07:37.01 | shastry | where can i find info abt developing kde applications ? |
| 07:37.09 | canllaith | developer.kde.org :) |
| 07:37.34 | shastry | ty |
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| 07:37.51 | shastry | does kde have its own way of adding menus and stuff or |
| 07:37.52 | Biennium | OS X wouldn't run on my Powerbook 190cs, and my two 3400c broke before OS X came out. |
| 07:37.54 | shastry | do i need to use qt ? |
| 07:38.25 | shastry | ah kde has its own api |
| 07:38.27 | shastry | thank god |
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| 07:38.56 | shastry | but it seems similar to qt ones heh |
| 07:39.03 | shastry | hola chakie |
| 07:39.13 | Biennium | canllaith: Powerbook 190cs: 40MHz 68LC040 (no FPU), 640x480x8 bit screen, surprisingly good interpolation, though. |
| 07:39.15 | chakie | hi |
| 07:39.21 | canllaith | Ah ok then. |
| 07:39.53 | marcusU | NeXTSTEP looked good on monochrome. |
| 07:40.33 | canllaith | http://www.hoult.org/~canllaith/screenshots/ancient-of-days.png |
| 07:40.37 | canllaith | That's the one I use sometimes |
| 07:41.14 | Biennium | canllaith: Powerbook 3400c: 200MHz 603ev, 800x600x16 bit screen, last one before the G3 and indistinct Apple product names. |
| 07:41.14 | canllaith | So it's a ... 266MHz. Has an Ati rage 4MB I think... |
| 07:41.49 | shastry | whoa that old one can do so much ? |
| 07:41.51 | brucehoult | canllaith: uses it whenever she manages to pry my warm, alive fingers off it |
| 07:41.54 | canllaith | Runs surprisingly well, and the pretty effects don't slow it down all that much. Of course, a Linux would absolutely *scream* on it instead of just plodding around. |
| 07:42.16 | canllaith | shastry: yup, it's a bit on the slow side but it's stable. Sure not as fast as my linux laptop but it's ok :) |
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| 07:42.35 | shastry | canllaith, is ur laptop the same speed ? |
| 07:42.51 | canllaith | No, I have two dells and a toshiba... |
| 07:42.52 | Biennium | Ancient of days? Doesn't that Mac II predate NeXTSTEP? Or is it gutted? |
| 07:43.06 | canllaith | No, it's all there... but it's not actually running |
| 07:43.11 | brucehoult | bwhahahaha |
| 07:43.16 | canllaith | It's just a convenient height for the screen :) |
| 07:43.20 | brucehoult | it's my monitor stand :-) |
| 07:43.33 | canllaith | shastry: I have a 500MHz, a 700MHz and a 1.8GHz (all intel) |
| 07:43.37 | brucehoult | a Mac IIci 25 MHz |
| 07:43.43 | canllaith | All three run Slackware linux & KDE 3.4 screamingly fast. |
| 07:43.46 | brucehoult | *with* 16 KB L2 cache card! |
| 07:44.32 | Biennium | Ooh, I don't have that in my IIci. I do have a NuBus card of mysterious purpose. |
| 07:45.16 | shastry | whoa canllaith nice memory |
| 07:45.25 | shastry | even my old p4 1.7 has just 256mb |
| 07:45.47 | canllaith | and an Athlon 2400+ with the same. |
| 07:46.11 | canllaith | 0_0 the only things I have so little memory on is old pentium III laptops. |
| 07:46.11 | shastry | well.. i just aint got the money |
| 07:46.28 | canllaith | we used to have a hardware shop. |
| 07:46.49 | canllaith | Lots of stuff lying around... |
| 07:46.55 | loren | yea? cool |
| 07:47.02 | canllaith | From 10MB HDD's all the way up to some spare 40GB's lol |
| 07:47.10 | loren | mwhaha lol |
| 07:47.11 | loren | XD |
| 07:47.14 | loren | very awsome |
| 07:47.21 | Biennium | Lots of tax writeoffs? |
| 07:47.39 | canllaith | No, just stock we never sold... some we bought second hand... |
| 07:47.48 | canllaith | some cast off parts that used to be in our computers till they got so old |
| 07:48.05 | canllaith | We have a few internet cafes, so we tend to hold onto old stuff like that in case it ever comes in handy |
| 07:48.12 | shastry | oh |
| 07:48.13 | canllaith | and slayerbob has this thing about not throwing things away |
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| 07:48.47 | brucehoult | throw things away? What does that mean? |
| 07:48.50 | sredna | Hello |
| 07:48.50 | canllaith | So we have old old old keyboards and mice cluttering up the place :P 15 computers actually running and in working order, and enough bits to make another 15 I'm sure. |
| 07:49.12 | brucehoult | people would *do* that? |
| 07:49.38 | canllaith | Do what? :P Throw things away? Do you *REALLY* need all those old clunky IBM keyboards I dropped on my foot the other day hunting through that pile of stuff in the corner? |
| 07:49.39 | canllaith | OH |
| 07:49.43 | canllaith | Where is the battery for the pda??? |
| 07:50.33 | brucehoult | do I really need those IBM Model M keyboards? |
| 07:50.33 | Biennium | Sometimes there is an IBM Model M revival. The trick is getting around to sending them away to happy new homes. |
| 07:50.38 | brucehoult | if you have to ask... |
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| 07:51.39 | brucehoult | the only problem is some of them have AT connectors instead of PS2 :-( |
| 07:52.29 | Biennium | And then they have that telephone-like connector so you could replace the cable. Or you could get an AT to PS/2 adapter. I have a couple such. |
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| 07:53.39 | chakie | hm, starting kontact froze my machine solid. twice |
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| 07:56.21 | Sirus | Does mosfet-liquid come with kde? |
| 07:56.59 | shastry | Sirus, nope |
| 07:57.14 | shastry | Sirus, theres baghira u might wanna check |
| 07:57.45 | Sirus | shastry: is that a diffrent style? |
| 07:58.14 | shastry | Sirus, yea .. pretty good one - like macosx |
| 07:58.41 | Sirus | Ok let me go on kde-look |
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| 08:00.25 | loren | bedtime |
| 08:00.27 | loren | cya all later |
| 08:01.04 | Sirus | Hrmm doesn't seem to come with kde either. |
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| 08:01.29 | shastry | Sirus, it doesnt |
| 08:01.35 | shastry | Sirus, u gotta install it |
| 08:02.00 | Sirus | hrmm |
| 08:07.15 | Sirus | shastry: how can I just install a theme? |
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| 08:07.45 | shastry | Sirus, what distro ? |
| 08:07.53 | Sirus | gentoo/linux |
| 08:08.03 | shastry | Sirus, emerge baghira |
| 08:08.53 | shastry | for others.. ./configure --prefix=$KDEDIR && make && make install |
| 08:10.36 | Sirus | ahh ok thanks |
| 08:10.38 | Sirus | :) |
| 08:11.02 | chimaera | normally, prefix shouldn't be neccesarry. ./configure should detect it via env-settings and kde-config.. |
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| 08:12.47 | sredna | It's nessecary for kdelibs |
| 08:13.45 | chimaera | sredna: which doesn't work, of course ;) hi sredna |
| 08:13.45 | sredna | And if your PATH is not correctly ordered and you have more kde versions installed, configure might pick up on the wrong kde-config binary |
| 08:13.54 | sredna | Hi chimaera |
| 08:14.09 | sredna | chimaera: What doesn't work? |
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| 08:14.38 | Octane | do you guys use Konqie or Firefox |
| 08:14.39 | chimaera | sredna: remember my prob yesterday? i had to remove all of debian's binaries to prevent cvs to use any of them.. |
| 08:14.47 | chimaera | konqi. |
| 08:15.01 | sredna | chimaera: Probably a problem with ld configuration |
| 08:17.12 | brucehoult | konq works with porn sites? |
| 08:17.19 | sredna | Lol |
| 08:17.23 | sredna | Hi brucehoult |
| 08:17.34 | brucehoult | g'day ;-) |
| 08:17.43 | chimaera | sredna: i checked that, entered the path to ld.so.conf, no go. i have the feeling that if kdebase finds _any_ libs in /usr/lib, it assumes all to be in there and skips other dirs like my /usr/local/kdecvs/lib.. |
| 08:17.48 | chimaera | ping? |
| 08:17.48 | sredna | Hows life down under? |
| 08:17.58 | MrGrim | hmm... even asus it appears has fallen victim to the "god aweful ugly case design" syndrom (http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=1760)... I just hope companies like coolermaster and antec can hold out.. |
| 08:18.15 | brucehoult | starting to get cold :-( And the days are getting shorter |
| 08:18.50 | sredna | chimaera: I'm really not a expert in the finer details there. I just use the defaults when building KDE, which makes solving those conflicts resonably easy |
| 08:19.01 | shastry | brucehoult, good... u can sleep less (meaning u can satup all night ) |
| 08:19.23 | sredna | brucehoult: Come to denmark and enjoy the scandinavian spring :) |
| 08:19.42 | shastry | *s/satup/stayup |
| 08:19.42 | brucehoult | very tempting... |
| 08:21.44 | canllaith | chimaera: actually, I'd heard of that before (having to remove *all* traces of debian KDE to get cvs KDE to work) |
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| 08:22.11 | sredna | Hi canllaith |
| 08:22.17 | canllaith | Hey there sredna :) |
| 08:22.19 | canllaith | How are you? |
| 08:22.30 | sredna | The probably compile it a bit different, like no rpath and such |
| 08:22.59 | sredna | The invitaion to come to denmark would include you as well :) |
| 08:23.08 | canllaith | :o |
| 08:23.10 | canllaith | :) |
| 08:23.30 | sredna | I'm fine but busy.. |
| 08:24.17 | sredna | I'm compiling a comlete list of kates configuration datas |
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| 08:27.30 | scrooge | lol |
| 08:27.36 | scrooge | canllaith, fix my bug! |
| 08:27.44 | scrooge | blahh |
| 08:27.45 | scrooge | hmm |
| 08:27.52 | scrooge | haha |
| 08:28.05 | shastry | lol |
| 08:28.14 | scrooge | hiya shastry |
| 08:28.24 | shastry | hola scrooge |
| 08:28.27 | scrooge | canllaith, are u a tutorerer? |
| 08:28.29 | scrooge | haha |
| 08:28.32 | canllaith | Any reoccurances of this bug are figments of your imagination and therefore your own problem. |
| 08:28.37 | scrooge | lol |
| 08:28.49 | canllaith | erm tutor..er..er? |
| 08:28.58 | shastry | lol |
| 08:28.58 | chimaera | canllaith: well, kdecvs worked fine as long as i had debian's packages installed. now i removed some of them for other dependency problems and the troubles began.. |
| 08:29.00 | scrooge | hehe XD |
| 08:29.00 | canllaith | I think you are a bit confused how to stop spelling tutor! :P |
| 08:29.00 | brucehoult | at an improbability level of... |
| 08:29.05 | scrooge | lmao |
| 08:29.09 | canllaith | and falling! |
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| 08:29.35 | brucehoult | that can be arranged |
| 08:29.38 | canllaith | before I'll willingly do 'braindead blonde' |
| 08:29.38 | canllaith | heh |
| 08:29.44 | scrooge | lol |
| 08:30.08 | canllaith | gah, taskbarv2 krashed kicker |
| 08:30.17 | canllaith | No transparency for me it seems. |
| 08:31.01 | scrooge | i gave up on that with ati |
| 08:31.23 | canllaith | Runs absolutely sweet upstairs, I'm too lazy to go up there and use the fast computer though :\ |
| 08:31.41 | scrooge | :P |
| 08:31.53 | canllaith | Two hardcore geeks sitting downstairs in the living room, one on a 4 year old laptop the other on a.... 6 years old brucehoult ? |
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| 08:31.56 | scrooge | haha |
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| 08:32.01 | brucehoult | 6.5 |
| 08:32.04 | canllaith | There's an athlon upstairs with a 20" lcd on it, and we're sitting here on our ancient laptops. |
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| 08:32.10 | scrooge | :O |
| 08:32.10 | kendterm | anyone know when KDE 3.4 will hit Debian Testing? :) |
| 08:32.17 | kendterm | (or is that better asked in #debian?) |
| 08:32.19 | scrooge | kendterm, 7 years? |
| 08:32.27 | kendterm | Testing, not Stable ;) |
| 08:32.30 | canllaith | kendterm: heh yeah, we have no clue :P |
| 08:32.30 | scrooge | rofl |
| 08:32.37 | canllaith | We don't do debian packages, debian do - so they're the only ones that know :) |
| 08:32.42 | brucehoult | well, I've known for a long time that a 266 MHz Mac is more pleasant to use than a 3200 MHz Linux thingo :-) |
| 08:32.46 | canllaith | :O |
| 08:32.53 | canllaith | Even if it's one *I* built? |
| 08:32.56 | scrooge | :( | |
| 08:33.02 | scrooge | lol |
| 08:33.04 | canllaith | scrooge, tell bruce I'm not talking to him. |
| 08:33.10 | scrooge | brucehoult, erhm |
| 08:33.16 | scrooge | brucehoult, she not talking to j00 :) |
| 08:33.19 | kendterm | Macs are nice |
| 08:33.24 | kendterm | I like KDE and Linux way better, though |
| 08:33.26 | scrooge | brucehoult, its like kiss ass time ;) |
| 08:33.26 | kendterm | Even than Mac OS X |
| 08:33.29 | brucehoult | otoh, I reevaluated when it lost Mandrake 10 and gained new and nicer software P-) |
| 08:33.37 | canllaith | hmph. |
| 08:33.38 | scrooge | lol |
| 08:33.56 | kendterm | Anyway, time to harass the #debian folks ;) |
| 08:33.56 | brucehoult | scrooge: can't .. she's sitting on it |
| 08:33.58 | kendterm | cya |
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| 08:34.11 | scrooge | brucehoult, there are ways... *EVIL LAFF* |
| 08:34.26 | canllaith | don't say that... he can pick me up.... |
| 08:34.34 | scrooge | lol |
| 08:34.50 | canllaith | oooooooooh look what I found |
| 08:34.52 | scrooge | O_O |
| 08:34.54 | canllaith | :| |
| 08:34.58 | canllaith | slayerbob: HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLP come rescue me |
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| 08:35.03 | scrooge | rofl |
| 08:35.07 | scrooge | hey hey hey! |
| 08:35.11 | scrooge | theres kids in here brucehoult ! |
| 08:35.13 | scrooge | i think |
| 08:35.13 | canllaith | So, what mac fonts are rather nice? |
| 08:35.13 | scrooge | ! |
| 08:35.18 | scrooge | lucida |
| 08:35.21 | canllaith | Yeah, like *ME* given that I'm young enough to be one of his kids |
| 08:35.23 | scrooge | the default :P |
| 08:35.29 | scrooge | haha |
| 08:35.42 | canllaith | I have chalkboard and monaco installed. Chalkboard is really nice, like for amarok's OSD and my clock and other fancy things |
| 08:36.00 | scrooge | never heard of em |
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| 08:36.17 | brucehoult | monaco is by the legendary Susan Kare |
| 08:36.31 | canllaith | http://www.hoult.org/~canllaith/screenshots/just-for-alethes.png |
| 08:36.32 | scrooge | :O thats that chick!?!? |
| 08:36.37 | brucehoult | along with Geneva and New York and the rest of the 1984 Mac fonts |
| 08:36.39 | scrooge | that like made the first icons? |
| 08:36.46 | canllaith | See the OSD pop up with my crowded house rack down the bottom right there? |
| 08:36.48 | brucehoult | rght |
| 08:36.50 | canllaith | track* |
| 08:36.52 | canllaith | that's chalkboard |
| 08:37.03 | shastry | peeps- whats monaco and chalkboard ? |
| 08:37.05 | canllaith | brucehoult: I'd install those on linux except only the annoying antialiased ttf ones will install |
| 08:37.06 | scrooge | fonts |
| 08:37.07 | scrooge | lol |
| 08:37.07 | canllaith | shastry: fonts |
| 08:37.20 | shastry | i c |
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| 08:37.22 | scrooge | whoa |
| 08:37.23 | canllaith | mmmmmmm |
| 08:37.24 | scrooge | thats nice :D |
| 08:37.32 | shastry | scrooge, link!!! |
| 08:37.37 | canllaith | Yeah, it's cute for like desktop icons or... etc :) |
| 08:37.41 | scrooge | http://www.hoult.org/~canllaith/screenshots/just-for-alethes.png |
| 08:37.42 | scrooge | lol |
| 08:38.28 | shastry | scrooge, what kde theme is that ? |
| 08:38.34 | scrooge | ask her! |
| 08:38.35 | scrooge | lol |
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| 08:38.54 | shastry | oh its her site |
| 08:38.58 | scrooge | yea |
| 08:39.02 | shastry | canllaith, whats the theme ? |
| 08:39.06 | shastry | and windeco |
| 08:39.07 | canllaith | plastik I think |
| 08:39.11 | canllaith | um lets see |
| 08:39.13 | canllaith | ah |
| 08:39.15 | canllaith | lipstik and knifty |
| 08:39.20 | canllaith | with a color scheme I made |
| 08:39.22 | canllaith | icons are nuvola |
| 08:39.33 | shastry | lipstick ah k |
| 08:40.53 | scrooge | icons are nice ^_^ |
| 08:41.03 | shastry | nuvola ROXORS |
| 08:41.08 | shastry | icon-king! |
| 08:42.25 | scrooge | paradise!? |
| 08:42.32 | scrooge | theres a real place named paradise? |
| 08:43.11 | canllaith | mmmm paradise? |
| 08:43.14 | canllaith | lol did you just whois me? |
| 08:43.40 | canllaith | Yes, NZ is paradise. I thought everyone knew that? |
| 08:43.48 | shastry | lol |
| 08:43.53 | scrooge | nah u have your dev cloak on |
| 08:43.54 | scrooge | lol |
| 08:43.57 | scrooge | brucehoult, ! |
| 08:44.05 | scrooge | i need to move |
| 08:44.20 | scrooge | i think ppl would take advantage of me tho. lol |
| 08:44.26 | scrooge | i know like 30 words in spanish |
| 08:44.36 | shastry | canllaith, hey can i look at the colour scheme ? |
| 08:44.37 | scrooge | thats bout it :/...i can also speak in binary |
| 08:44.38 | canllaith | ooooooh right |
| 08:44.45 | canllaith | shastry: sure, if you give me a moment I'll upload some |
| 08:45.29 | shastry | okies |
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| 08:47.16 | scrooge | haha |
| 08:47.17 | _poison | hi =) |
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| 08:47.34 | canllaith | Yeah but you don't get apple ones that way :P |
| 08:47.36 | Mooby | hi |
| 08:47.55 | Mooby | is there some issues known when using kde 3.3 on nfs home ? |
| 08:48.06 | canllaith | I do hear some yes |
| 08:48.18 | canllaith | Usually to do with the sockets it creats iirc |
| 08:48.36 | Mooby | no it's related to rc files created |
| 08:48.39 | canllaith | and symlinks it creates. |
| 08:48.41 | _poison | hmmm ... can't kde be configured to create th sockets in /tmp or such ? |
| 08:48.45 | canllaith | rc files? Interesting. |
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| 08:49.06 | Mooby | tested on a newly added user with /home on nfs or on local disk |
| 08:49.10 | _poison | hmmm ... whats the problem with sockets on nfs anyway ? =/ |
| 08:49.13 | Mooby | on local disk no problems |
| 08:49.34 | Mooby | but in nfs, rc files are being filled with others rc files |
| 08:49.42 | scrooge | canllaith, yea :/ |
| 08:49.45 | scrooge | hafta g00gle it |
| 08:49.51 | canllaith | There are quite a few posts on mailing lists suggesting that it doesn't work just out of the box. |
| 08:50.04 | Mooby | for example kdeglobals filled with entries for kopete kioslave and so on |
| 08:50.07 | shastry | btw is there anyway to unbind the volume keys from kmix ? |
| 08:50.11 | ankurnayak | i was trying to install the crystal and i screwed my entire kde theme...now i have a give up font and i want to restore my old kde settings ....how do i do it??? |
| 08:50.12 | canllaith | At any rate, if you go and have a hunt through the kde and kde-linux mailing list archives... |
| 08:50.26 | canllaith | ankurnayak: entire settings? |
| 08:50.31 | canllaith | mv ~/.kde ~/.kde-bak |
| 08:50.38 | canllaith | That resets everything but the menu. |
| 08:50.53 | ankurnayak | i tried that but didnt help... |
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| 08:51.12 | ankurnayak | The fonts are still screwed up |
| 08:51.12 | shastry | my kbd volume keys are captured by kmix.. i dont want kmix.. how do i disable it / |
| 08:51.22 | canllaith | ankurnayak: just try resetting the fonts in the kde control center? |
| 08:51.44 | ankurnayak | i set it to defaults and it has become totally give up |
| 08:52.07 | ankurnayak | even after i remove .kde it is still the same |
| 08:52.11 | purestorm | Hi. I mounted and unmounted a CDROM device using KDE (3.3, 2.4.27, Debian System). Now, when I try to eject it, it fails because the "device is busy". lsof tells me that kdeinit accesses /dev/hdc. What's the problem and how can I resolve it? |
| 08:52.14 | _poison | shastry: disable kmilo in kde control center under servicees ... |
| 08:52.44 | canllaith | purestorm: The problem is generally it's a konqueror process that still has an open file on that device... |
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| 08:52.54 | canllaith | The simple solution assuming you don't have any files with unsaved data |
| 08:52.55 | EvolutionR | I'm using Fedora Core 3, Kde 3.3. My CDROM do not have any cd inside so it's not mounted, at the kde control center - Behavior, under show device, I've unchecked the mounted CDROM, check with mounted CDROM, how come my desktop still display the CDROM icon? |
| 08:52.58 | canllaith | is to kill -15 that pid |
| 08:53.02 | _poison | which reminds me I haventyet found ANY documentation on kmilo =/ |
| 08:53.06 | shastry | _poison, kmilo.. well.. will that disable all keyboard shorcuts ? |
| 08:53.28 | scrooge | kmilo enables the on screen stuff |
| 08:53.35 | _poison | shastry: you have to bind them ... |
| 08:53.37 | scrooge | and some kcontrol stuff like kvaio |
| 08:53.40 | chimaera | how can i change the fonts for konqi's embedded advanced texteditor? |
| 08:53.55 | shastry | _poison, like i have internet key bound to firefox .. so that wil stay right ? |
| 08:54.01 | canllaith | It uses the global monospace font I think |
| 08:54.04 | purestorm | canllaith: When mounted, it is readonly. It's a CDROM after all ;) |
| 08:54.07 | _poison | shastry: yes |
| 08:54.11 | shastry | k, thnx :) |
| 08:54.15 | canllaith | purestorm: heh I meant like, open in konqi in general :P |
| 08:54.22 | ankurnayak | canllaith, is the font not restored to the old settings when i remove the .kde dir...?? |
| 08:54.31 | canllaith | ankurnayak: There is also ~/.kderc |
| 08:54.33 | shastry | _poison, how to bind keys to programs not in menus ? |
| 08:54.33 | canllaith | and ~/.qt |
| 08:54.34 | purestorm | canllaith: Konqueror is closed, no window open |
| 08:54.44 | canllaith | purestorm: *sigh* yes but the process still exits.... |
| 08:55.13 | ankurnayak | canllaith, so where is the font stored |
| 08:55.14 | canllaith | at any rate, check that pid again, 'kdeinit' is a wrapper that calls other applications |
| 08:55.22 | _poison | shastry: in kde -> Control Center -> Keyboard Shortcuts -> Application shortcuts |
| 08:55.26 | canllaith | ankurnayak: I think ~/.qt, just move both of them out of the way |
| 08:55.32 | ankurnayak | canllaith, i hate the current font ....its totally give up |
| 08:55.37 | canllaith | So it will be another app that kdeinit has called, that has the lock on your device. |
| 08:55.39 | shastry | _poison, isnt that just the apps in menu ? |
| 08:55.42 | canllaith | Wow, this KDE font installer is fantastic |
| 08:55.50 | scrooge | kfont? :P |
| 08:55.51 | ankurnayak | ok |
| 08:55.54 | ankurnayak | i'll try hta |
| 08:55.59 | ankurnayak | s/hta/that |
| 08:56.01 | _poison | shastry: I meant command shortcuts ^^ |
| 08:56.05 | canllaith | I'm in konqui and I just double clicked on a font to look at the previouew |
| 08:56.08 | canllaith | preview* |
| 08:56.14 | canllaith | and it has a little 'install' button :o |
| 08:56.15 | scrooge | nice |
| 08:56.18 | scrooge | lol |
| 08:56.23 | canllaith | and I can install it system wide from here |
| 08:56.24 | canllaith | sweet! |
| 08:56.28 | scrooge | :D |
| 08:56.29 | shastry | oh |
| 08:56.31 | _poison | and even ask for root passwd for gloabl install ^^ |
| 08:56.35 | canllaith | Nice :) |
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| 08:56.39 | purestorm | After some time, kdeinit seems to free whatever handler it has on the device. Maybe it is the Konqueror called by kdeinit. Is it possible to change some setting so the device is free immediately? |
| 08:57.15 | shastry | _poison, Below is a list of known commands which you may assign keyboard shortcuts to. To edit, add or remove entries from this list use the KDE menu editor. |
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| 08:58.04 | canllaith | purestorm: Remember to do file -> quit on konqueror once you're finished with that device. Don't browse away elsewhere in that window. |
| 08:58.07 | _poison | shastry: yes ... add them to the menu then ... or use KHotKeys |
| 08:58.21 | shastry | khotkeys! |
| 08:58.26 | shastry | that seems to be what i want! |
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| 09:01.57 | stdout | can somebody try to open the ww.gmail.org url with konqueror |
| 09:02.05 | purestorm | canllaith: I did. I have no konqueror window open. |
| 09:02.09 | stdout | it's slows the browser down here |
| 09:02.12 | canllaith | Yes but the process still exists |
| 09:02.19 | scrooge | it works |
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| 09:02.37 | scrooge | :O up to 1.9GB |
| 09:02.50 | stdout | strange |
| 09:02.59 | stdout | my konqueror doesn't work properly |
| 09:03.03 | scrooge | heh |
| 09:03.24 | purestorm | canllaith: Arg, it's kio_audiocd that's accessing the deivce (from KDE's process table). |
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| 09:03.44 | ankurnayak | canllaith, i tried almost everything .....nothing seems to work... |
| 09:03.47 | canllaith | Ok, so the process didn't get terminated when you closed the konqueror window. Just kill -15 it |
| 09:03.52 | shastry | canllaith, the colourschemes are up ? |
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| 09:04.14 | purestorm | Is there a way to stop kio_audiocd from accessing a data cd? |
| 09:04.26 | canllaith | Doesn't do it here! :P |
| 09:04.30 | canllaith | So I assume so. |
| 09:04.36 | purestorm | Heh |
| 09:04.39 | _dan_ | I love you kde!!! |
| 09:04.43 | ankurnayak | canllaith, the fonts are still screwed up |
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| 09:04.58 | purestorm | I love Linux. Lot's of things to tweak. Lot's of setting you don't know and thus things that bite you ;) |
| 09:04.58 | canllaith | ankurnayak: 'screwed up' what does that mean? That doesn't tell us any information we need to give you any help |
| 09:05.01 | SchopfeR | hello |
| 09:05.36 | ankurnayak | canllaith, can u tell me what ur fonts are... |
| 09:05.45 | canllaith | Bistream vera sans 7pt |
| 09:06.02 | _dan_ | I use kubuntu, but I'm an old timer with debian |
| 09:06.15 | canllaith | shastry: http://www.hoult.org/~canllaith/foo/color-schemes.tar |
| 09:06.28 | shastry | ty |
| 09:06.30 | canllaith | The one I'm using in that screenshot is called Green (it's just a tweaked plastik with a pale green highlight) |
| 09:06.41 | shastry | ah k |
| 09:06.44 | canllaith | that's the whole folder though since they're so tiny and it's easier to type '*' :P |
| 09:07.51 | shastry | heh |
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| 09:13.59 | Mooby | which program does kreate all rc files in the user dir ? |
| 09:14.08 | Mooby | s/kreate/create :) |
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| 09:19.48 | purestorm | How can I deactivae kio_audiocd? |
| 09:19.57 | purestorm | or the whole audio cd support of the Konqueror? |
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| 09:22.43 | purestorm | hm, simply changed it to a wrong path in the control center ;) |
| 09:22.43 | purestorm | ok |
| 09:22.47 | purestorm | thanks for your help anyway. |
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| 09:23.42 | _dan_ | purestorm |
| 09:23.45 | scrooge | gone |
| 09:23.46 | scrooge | haha |
| 09:24.11 | _dan_ | I was gonna tell him... |
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| 09:25.03 | frerich | hi all |
| 09:25.47 | canllaith | Heya frerich :) |
| 09:26.02 | scrooge | lol |
| 09:26.08 | scrooge | yea hate that about X :/ |
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| 09:26.53 | scrooge | wonderful |
| 09:27.09 | scrooge | just need to change some colors |
| 09:29.27 | Liquid_Byt3 | hey, someone here use bootsplash under kernel 2.6.10? |
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| 09:30.03 | scrooge | i use fbsplash |
| 09:30.43 | Liquid_Byt3 | scrooge: can u xplain to me,, or tell a place i can find a tutorial, 4 me config a bootsplash here in my machine? |
| 09:31.42 | scrooge | which distro? |
| 09:31.54 | Liquid_Byt3 | debian sid |
| 09:32.05 | Liquid_Byt3 | scrooge: i just find a tutorial |
| 09:32.09 | scrooge | k |
| 09:32.21 | Liquid_Byt3 | scrooge: tks, |
| 09:32.28 | scrooge | np...i think :P |
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| 09:34.19 | Liquid_Byt3 | i but a deb in my sources.list n then aptitude install bootsplash |
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| 09:35.18 | Liquid_Byt3 | scrooge: hm i need a help, hehe! |
| 09:35.26 | scrooge | lol |
| 09:35.28 | scrooge | sup? |
| 09:35.31 | Liquid_Byt3 | hm |
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| 09:36.14 | Liquid_Byt3 | i ll try to xplain,, its dificult because english is not my native language |
| 09:36.57 | scrooge | ahh i see :) |
| 09:37.16 | Liquid_Byt3 | apt try to find bootsplash initrd image but does not exist |
| 09:37.17 | Liquid_Byt3 | hhe |
| 09:37.21 | Liquid_Byt3 | this is the problem |
| 09:37.53 | _emrys | Hi to everyone |
| 09:38.12 | Liquid_Byt3 | i read i need to patch my kernel, but i cannt find a patch for kernel 2.6.10 |
| 09:38.36 | EvolutionR | anybody know's why the CDROM still on my desktop kde 3.3? there's no cd insi |
| 09:39.57 | scrooge | right click desktop, configure desktop |
| 09:40.12 | scrooge | behaviour icon |
| 09:40.16 | scrooge | device icons tab |
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| 09:41.25 | scrooge | EvolutionR: ^^ that it? |
| 09:42.06 | mfx- | Liquid_Byt3, if you can wait a sec. i found a patch for 2610 a few weeks ago |
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| 09:42.17 | mfx- | i want it too on suse |
| 09:42.37 | Liquid_Byt3 | mfx-: ok! |
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| 09:42.45 | Liquid_Byt3 | mfx-: i wait |
| 09:42.50 | scrooge | wb canllaith |
| 09:42.54 | canllaith | why ty |
| 09:43.03 | scrooge | ^^ |
| 09:43.06 | scrooge | ^_^ |
| 09:43.13 | scrooge | gawd i love konversation |
| 09:43.27 | scrooge | should run cvs konvi also *G* |
| 09:44.03 | mfx- | http://www.bootsplash.de/ |
| 09:44.10 | mfx- | use ctrl+f |
| 09:44.12 | mfx- | to find it |
| 09:44.14 | canllaith | oooh tis is an amazingly sexy font |
| 09:44.15 | Liquid_Byt3 | ok |
| 09:44.20 | Liquid_Byt3 | mfx-: tks |
| 09:44.26 | mfx- | np |
| 09:44.29 | mfx- | hope it works |
| 09:44.31 | mfx- | ;) |
| 09:45.00 | scrooge | canllaith: ??? |
| 09:45.15 | EvolutionR | But the problem now, I've already inserted the CDROM contains data, but I can't access it? I double click it CDROM icon, check the /media/cdrecoder nothing? |
| 09:45.16 | hettar | Is there anyway in 3.4 to switch back to the old progress dialog instead of the newer sucky one ? |
| 09:46.13 | scrooge | ? |
| 09:46.19 | scrooge | splash? |
| 09:46.37 | scrooge | EvolutionR: check fstab |
| 09:47.39 | sredna | hettar: Sorry? |
| 09:48.07 | Mooby | someone know which program is responsible for creating .kde directory, and rc files ? |
| 09:48.27 | canllaith | Each program is responsible for creating it's own once default settings have been changed. |
| 09:48.38 | canllaith | Unless, you use a distro that pre-configures KDE by putting a ~/.kde directory in /etc/skel |
| 09:48.42 | canllaith | (fedora I think does this) |
| 09:49.12 | EvolutionR | /dev/hdd /media/cdrecorder auto pamconsole,exec,noauto,$ |
| 09:49.52 | hettar | sredna: The old progress dialog thing was like the windows one and the new one is like the firefox dialog. I prefer the old style and was wondering if you could still use that style |
| 09:50.10 | Mooby | canllaith: I've removed all my .kde , and laucnhed kbuildsycoca |
| 09:50.15 | sredna | hettar: I have no idea what you are talking about |
| 09:50.23 | EvolutionR | how come listed hdd? |
| 09:50.34 | Mooby | (no kde process was running before) |
| 09:50.54 | Mooby | the .kde is created and a lot of rc files are created |
| 09:51.18 | Mooby | and theirs values are all wrong but only when run over a nfs share |
| 09:51.51 | hettar | sredna: If you are browsing in konq and you want to safe a file you get the progress dialog. The new KDE has a new dialog. I prefer the old one and if possible want to use it rather than the newer one |
| 09:52.01 | hettar | s/safe/save/ |
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| 09:52.12 | canllaith | There.. is a new progress dialog? :| |
| 09:52.24 | sredna | hettar: Nope. The dialog is provided by kio, and afaik it has not changed. |
| 09:53.21 | sredna | canllaith: Which font? |
| 09:53.33 | canllaith | Krungthep ? |
| 09:53.37 | hettar | not the save as dialog. the progress one |
| 09:53.45 | hettar | at least it is different here |
| 09:53.59 | sredna | hettar: In what way is it different? |
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| 09:54.55 | hettar | I used to get a single progress dialog for each download. Now It is more of a download manager like in firefox/mozilla. |
| 09:55.08 | canllaith | Oh right, you must be using kget now or something? |
| 09:55.18 | canllaith | Either that or your distro has patched something - because I still get one each |
| 09:55.48 | hettar | hmm I didn't think so. let me check it is install |
| 09:55.48 | sredna | hettar: As cannlaith says, you may be using kget. And did I see a setting for that somewhere? |
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| 09:56.17 | hettar | hmm no I don't have kget installed. |
| 09:56.20 | sredna | Boy, kde in danish is weird :o |
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| 09:57.01 | aseigo_h | sredna: a reflection of the culture? ;P |
| 09:57.19 | ankurnayak | Does anyone know how to set emacs shortcuts for editing in any application.....?? |
| 09:57.43 | sredna | aseigo_h: You mean the tact that we design odd configuration dialogs should also lead to bad bad translations? :$ |
| 09:57.45 | ankurnayak | The shortcuts in kcontrol dont work everywhere |
| 09:57.51 | sredna | Fact |
| 09:57.52 | aseigo_h | sredna: lol |
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| 09:58.24 | aseigo_h | honestly, i'm glad i don't have to translate software |
| 09:58.39 | aseigo_h | it's a rather unhappily dificult task that on the surface of it appears simple |
| 09:59.01 | canllaith | Technical terms don't often translate well. |
| 09:59.05 | aseigo_h | at least in part due to the wonderful ambiguities and general expressivity of english, the default language |
| 09:59.09 | sredna | aseigo_h: It's really hard, I did provide a patch for the danish translation of kate once, but it was never applied |
| 09:59.19 | sredna | It's not easy at all |
| 09:59.35 | aseigo_h | sredna: ahahaha... a patch for your own app in your own language and it wasn't applied?! |
| 09:59.40 | canllaith | lolol |
| 10:00.03 | canllaith | http://www.hoult.org/~canllaith/foo/fun_with_fonts.png |
| 10:00.15 | sredna | aseigo_h: I should probably have done so myself |
| 10:00.33 | aseigo_h | canllaith: fontpr0n? |
| 10:00.35 | canllaith | Ok, so that's kinda overboard... some of these fonts are real cute though |
| 10:00.43 | yannux_ | plop tlm |
| 10:00.56 | canllaith | Yeah baby, I like the curves on those babies on my desktop |
| 10:01.14 | hettar | *sigh* I guess it's not that important. Thanks anyway |
| 10:01.18 | canllaith | lol to undo kget? |
| 10:01.20 | canllaith | I can tell you immediately |
| 10:01.33 | canllaith | Kmenu -> Internet -> Kget |
| 10:01.37 | canllaith | Then |
| 10:01.42 | sredna | hettar: Try checking KDE Components->File management, Behavior tab for a setting like 'show network operations in a single window' |
| 10:01.55 | canllaith | ooooooh is there something else? It's not kget? |
| 10:02.09 | aseigo_h | kuiserver |
| 10:02.16 | canllaith | sredna: I thought you used KDE in English? Your screenshots were in English for a long time |
| 10:02.26 | aseigo_h | canllaith: i'd go crazy with that desktop. |
| 10:02.37 | aseigo_h | well. i am already crazy. but. i'd go crazyER |
| 10:02.42 | hettar | sredna: ahh thanks that was it :-) |
| 10:02.54 | canllaith | I kinda like the funky font in amarok though, it goes well there |
| 10:03.01 | sredna | canllaith: It's a experiment, and it have one nice side effect: Now the comma key on my numeric keyboard works :o |
| 10:03.08 | canllaith | sredna: oooh :P Cool :) |
| 10:03.20 | scrooge | HOLD THE Fing PHONE! |
| 10:03.27 | scrooge | thats amarok!?!? |
| 10:03.30 | canllaith | I bet I could do it in German or Malaysian |
| 10:03.32 | canllaith | and yes it's amarok lol |
| 10:03.40 | scrooge | OMG |
| 10:03.47 | scrooge | i didnt know it could look like that!!! |
| 10:03.53 | aseigo_h | well, one way amarok can look |
| 10:04.00 | canllaith | scrooge: amarok can look amazingly sexy. |
| 10:04.06 | scrooge | :D:D:D:D |
| 10:04.25 | canllaith | has different visualisations: |
| 10:04.31 | canllaith | http://www.hoult.org/~canllaith/foo/amarok.png |
| 10:04.43 | canllaith | http://www.hoult.org/~canllaith/foo/amarok1.png |
| 10:05.02 | sredna | canllaith: I'd really like to be able to tell my collegues or family that they should use KDE, but given the quality of the danish translation, I can't. And I haven't really the time to work much on it myself. So I'm considering ways to improve the situation. For example try to recruit somebody through danish LUGs, or starting a danish kde server (kd.kde.org or www.kde.dk) |
| 10:05.19 | canllaith | and then in the full on, this is my Music Library mode: http://www.hoult.org/~canllaith/screenshots/amarok.png |
| 10:05.22 | canllaith | sredna: ah, I see. |
| 10:05.23 | scrooge | that is....AWESOME! |
| 10:05.51 | canllaith | Now that amarok will actually play music without crashing, I'll concede it's a nice app. |
| 10:06.00 | scrooge | m:D |
| 10:06.03 | scrooge | XD |
| 10:06.14 | canllaith | lol |
| 10:06.25 | frerich | I have maybe six online at atime, and I always have to look the names up. |
| 10:06.26 | scrooge | lol |
| 10:06.35 | canllaith | because I have an inconveniently good memory and I type damn fast :P |
| 10:06.41 | scrooge | haha |
| 10:06.45 | canllaith | (Inconvenient not for me. For those who live with me) |
| 10:06.47 | scrooge | i made aliases :P |
| 10:06.57 | scrooge | /pictures foo.jpg |
| 10:07.08 | frerich | clever |
| 10:07.08 | scrooge | automagically added in the rest of my url |
| 10:07.11 | scrooge | in xchat at least :S |
| 10:07.18 | scrooge | gotta play with konvi |
| 10:07.46 | canllaith | mmm only problem with this 'charcoal CY' font is it doesn't look well under 8pt |
| 10:07.48 | sredna | canllaith: What is the konsole font? |
| 10:07.49 | canllaith | so my titlebars are huge :( |
| 10:08.23 | canllaith | sredna: It is called Monaco CY, it's an apple font. I could send it to you if you wanted (and didn't mind that's a bit naughty) |
| 10:08.55 | sredna | Na, nm.. I'll be able to finde something like it maybe |
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| 10:09.52 | canllaith | :) |
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| 10:11.18 | scrooge | omg |
| 10:11.30 | scrooge | i think i found chalkboard but it said its commercial font :/ |
| 10:11.34 | canllaith | It is, yes |
| 10:11.45 | canllaith | Some of the fonts are from 1001freefonts.com |
| 10:11.49 | canllaith | battlefield (the font on amarok) |
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| 10:12.01 | sredna | http://83.73.143.23:8003/kdedesktopindanish.png <- my current, danish, desktop |
| 10:12.04 | canllaith | There are stacks of gorgeous fonts there, all in windows TTF format |
| 10:12.18 | canllaith | Which you can drag to fonts:/ in konqueror to install, just that easy :) |
| 10:12.26 | scrooge | :D |
| 10:12.27 | scrooge | nice |
| 10:12.30 | shastry | canllaith, where? |
| 10:12.33 | shastry | i missed the link |
| 10:12.43 | canllaith | 1001freefonts.com |
| 10:12.46 | sredna | http://1001freefonts.com |
| 10:12.51 | shastry | ah k |
| 10:12.59 | canllaith | (unzip the fonts, then drag the .ttf file to fonts:/personal or fonts:/system in konqi) |
| 10:13.15 | canllaith | mmm screenshot does not work sredna |
| 10:13.20 | scrooge | yea |
| 10:13.21 | scrooge | times out |
| 10:13.24 | brucehoult | my amarok :-) (thanks canllaith!): http://www.hoult.org/bruce/covers.png |
| 10:13.35 | shastry | canllaith, u remember u pasted a screenshot sometime ago.. can u link me to it again ? |
| 10:13.40 | canllaith | shastry: which one! :P |
| 10:13.47 | sredna | Uhm, retry, kio should pick up on it |
| 10:13.53 | canllaith | http://www.hoult.org/~canllaith/geek-stuff.html |
| 10:14.04 | canllaith | Somewhere on there I imagine |
| 10:14.14 | shastry | lol ok |
| 10:14.27 | shastry | the screenie where i saw the green colour scheme |
| 10:14.32 | canllaith | Ahhhh yep |
| 10:14.46 | canllaith | http://www.hoult.org/~canllaith/screenshots/just-for-alethes.png |
| 10:14.53 | slayerbob | lol |
| 10:15.09 | shastry | ah that |
| 10:15.20 | brucehoult | it's not easy being green |
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| 10:15.27 | canllaith | ooooooooooh wow |
| 10:15.35 | shastry | canllaith, whats the kde font ? bitstream ? |
| 10:15.39 | canllaith | I can *really* hear the background flutes on this ...... |
| 10:15.55 | canllaith | I use bitstream vera sans yeah..... |
| 10:15.59 | canllaith | and bitstream mono |
| 10:16.02 | shastry | k |
| 10:16.46 | shastry | hey one more q: (sorry.. i've stayed out of kde for too long (fvwm) ) .. whats the thing in bottom right corner ? |
| 10:16.55 | canllaith | That is the OSD display for Amarok |
| 10:17.08 | shastry | no |
| 10:17.10 | canllaith | it flashes up a little passive window with the current track and the album cover etc when songs change |
| 10:17.10 | shastry | the round |
| 10:17.11 | canllaith | no? |
| 10:17.13 | shastry | conq like thing |
| 10:17.16 | shastry | *konq |
| 10:17.18 | canllaith | mmm ? |
| 10:17.33 | canllaith | oooooooh |
| 10:17.36 | shastry | next to clock |
| 10:17.37 | canllaith | That is kpf |
| 10:17.40 | canllaith | It's a little webserver |
| 10:17.45 | shastry | oh |
| 10:18.02 | shastry | canllaith, what distro do u use ? |
| 10:18.05 | canllaith | sredna is using it to host his screenshots |
| 10:18.06 | canllaith | Slackware |
| 10:18.14 | shastry | u build these packages or there are packages already ? |
| 10:18.23 | shastry | cos arch doesnt have all these |
| 10:18.34 | canllaith | There are already packages of KDE 3.4 in Slackware current yup |
| 10:18.36 | canllaith | official ones |
| 10:18.41 | shastry | oh |
| 10:18.44 | scrooge | :O |
| 10:18.47 | shastry | kpf is in official kde ? |
| 10:18.49 | shastry | never knew |
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| 10:18.59 | canllaith | Yeah... I'm not sure if it's kdenetwork or something else |
| 10:19.03 | canllaith | You prolly already have it |
| 10:19.10 | canllaith | Right click on your kicker and go to add an applet |
| 10:19.22 | canllaith | 'Public file server' |
| 10:19.36 | shastry | i c ok |
| 10:19.36 | ankurnayak | does anyone know how to use dcop to increase or decrease volume using kmix |
| 10:19.43 | scrooge | heh |
| 10:20.08 | scrooge | its in kdenetwork |
| 10:20.27 | frerich | shastry: Has been for years :-} |
| 10:20.32 | shastry | oh |
| 10:20.37 | shastry | never noticed it :+ |
| 10:20.45 | scrooge | lol |
| 10:20.57 | scrooge | yea, nobody ever notices every package that makes up kde |
| 10:21.02 | scrooge | missing out on alot! |
| 10:21.03 | canllaith | These flutes are just magnificent |
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| 10:21.11 | canllaith | *drifts*..... |
| 10:21.19 | scrooge | haha |
| 10:21.23 | canllaith | There should be a way for me to spam what music I'm listening to around the IRC channel |
| 10:21.30 | scrooge | /media |
| 10:21.33 | scrooge | doesnt work? |
| 10:21.34 | canllaith | (the actual music, not now playing) |
| 10:21.38 | scrooge | oh |
| 10:21.43 | shastry | whoa nice server |
| 10:21.43 | scrooge | hmm |
| 10:21.51 | scrooge | shastry: ? |
| 10:21.52 | canllaith | Ok, media works ;) :P |
| 10:21.56 | scrooge | lol |
| 10:21.57 | scrooge | :P |
| 10:22.05 | shastry | scrooge, kpf |
| 10:22.14 | shastry | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:22.23 | canllaith | oooooooooooh wow |
| 10:22.25 | scrooge | konversation |
| 10:22.29 | canllaith | and can I hear the double bass in this or *what*! |
| 10:22.35 | scrooge | lol |
| 10:22.38 | canllaith | brucehoult: these headphones are a billion times better with batteries in!!! |
| 10:22.44 | scrooge | haha |
| 10:23.21 | brucehoult | well, yeah :-) |
| 10:23.26 | canllaith | :P |
| 10:23.44 | canllaith | * and if you ever find, the moment when... you feel you want me in your arms again... * |
| 10:23.45 | slayerbob | LOL |
| 10:23.51 | brucehoult | you told me they were worse before. Must have been because it was flat? |
| 10:23.54 | canllaith | *who'll be in love with someone else by then... not I..... not I.... * |
| 10:23.55 | scrooge | yall running konvi-cvs too? |
| 10:23.56 | canllaith | Prolly :P |
| 10:23.58 | canllaith | scrooge: yup! |
| 10:24.01 | scrooge | :D |
| 10:24.06 | scrooge | im bout to do the same |
| 10:24.07 | scrooge | mwahahahaha |
| 10:24.11 | canllaith | * our song of love... has now become... a lost refrain.. * |
| 10:24.38 | brucehoult | sony don't make the best noise-cancelling headphones, but they're not *bad* |
| 10:24.45 | canllaith | Mine are like 6 or 7 years old |
| 10:24.54 | shastry | oh and btw, gtk-at r0x0rs |
| 10:24.57 | canllaith | and starting to get very ratty. Still lovely sound though. |
| 10:25.13 | shastry | xchat has the same theme as qt |
| 10:25.18 | canllaith | * I read an old fairy story ... wheeee baby couldn't put it down... * |
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| 10:25.38 | canllaith | It doesn't quite block out my own voice but pretty close... and that feels weird heh |
| 10:25.47 | scrooge | lol |
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| 10:25.54 | pie__ | hi, how can I see the contents of .war (Web Archive) files created by konqueror, without using konqueror? |
| 10:26.02 | brucehoult | they're really really nice to have on plane flights or car trips. Or even just in an office. You woudn't believe how loud most office aircon is until you've noise-cancelled it for a while and then stop doing that |
| 10:26.05 | sredna | The sad thing about many free fonts is that they only cover the ascii letters |
| 10:26.25 | sredna | Many of them are unusable for me without danish letters |
| 10:27.12 | canllaith | * I says if you'll leave aladin... I'll get you in the movies too.... * |
| 10:27.16 | brucehoult | canllaith: they deliberatly dont' cancel voice-frequencies. Mostly just low frequencies on the active cancelling. high frequencies are taken care of by the physical construction |
| 10:27.24 | shastry | ok.. now how do i disable the public webserver ? |
| 10:27.37 | canllaith | brucehoult: yeah but .... I hear my voice much less lol |
| 10:30.18 | canllaith | Which really makes me wonder about people who walk around in public, iPod's dripping constant music and talk into their ears... totally disjointed from the surrounding people and events |
| 10:30.48 | brucehoult | yeah I don't liek to do that even though I can |
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| 10:31.26 | chimaera | sredna: ok, cvs is working.. finally. ;) |
| 10:31.40 | sredna | chimaera: Nice :) |
| 10:32.25 | chimaera | sredna: had to recompile dbus-at & stuff to change deps so i could get rid of debian's packages.. |
| 10:32.32 | chimaera | s/at/qt/ |
| 10:32.51 | sredna | chimaera: Yea, anything linking to a old Qt probably |
| 10:33.47 | chimaera | sredna: well, debus-qt depends on kdelibs which i had to remove. in factm i still use debian'S qt.. |
| 10:34.32 | sredna | Dbus-qt depends on kdelibs? :$ |
| 10:34.47 | sredna | The world is full of odd constructs :o |
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| 10:35.06 | aseigo_h | that's my cue |
| 10:35.48 | chimaera | sredna: well, that one dep isn't clear for me, too. |
| 10:36.46 | brucehoult | such a cute little garden too |
| 10:36.48 | shastry | oh and where to get ximian openoffice ? |
| 10:36.56 | brucehoult | especially when it has a naiad in it |
| 10:37.03 | shastry | the binary .. not the sources |
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| 10:41.03 | aseigo_h | shastry: from your OS vendor =) |
| 10:41.11 | aseigo_h | shastry: and you probably want the KDE OOo anyways ;) |
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| 10:42.05 | shastry | aseigo_h, well.. my distro doesnt have ximian version.. so i was asking if theres a standalone version |
| 10:42.23 | shastry | suse has ximian build for oo.org 2.0 pre |
| 10:42.31 | shastry | i wish i had that |
| 10:42.35 | shastry | suse 9.3 i mean |
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| 10:47.29 | Sirus | How do I create a device icon in kde for gentoo? |
| 10:47.59 | aseigo_h | shastry: the OOo in 9.2 is pretty good. =) what os are you running? |
| 10:48.45 | scrooge | ksim just murdered kicker |
| 10:48.48 | shastry | Archlinux |
| 10:49.44 | Sirus | Can it even be done? |
| 10:50.11 | aseigo_h | scrooge: yeah, ksim is shit |
| 10:50.30 | scrooge | whoa |
| 10:50.33 | scrooge | killed cvs also! |
| 10:50.35 | scrooge | crazy |
| 10:50.52 | scrooge | Sirus: wat do u mean? |
| 10:50.55 | aseigo_h | Sirus: sure... kde even supports automatic creation of such icons.. just turn them on... you need the devices or media ioslave though |
| 10:50.58 | shastry | Sirus, rightclick -> create new |
| 10:51.00 | shastry | link to device |
| 10:51.24 | Sirus | shastry: it complains I'm not root |
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| 10:51.34 | shastry | dunno |
| 10:51.48 | scrooge | fstab permissions? |
| 10:54.37 | scrooge | mmm...is it worth making amarok use mysql? |
| 10:55.37 | Sirus` | no it just doesn't wnna work |
| 10:55.42 | chimaera | scrooge: if you have a very large colection, probably |
| 10:56.09 | scrooge | bahh i only put limited songs on here anyways |
| 10:56.11 | scrooge | sqlite it is |
| 10:56.12 | scrooge | :) |
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| 11:01.06 | canllaith | Hey guys |
| 11:01.19 | canllaith | What is the absolute COOLEST thing you've found in KDE 3.4 |
| 11:01.26 | canllaith | Makes you just go 'Wow, KDE *rocks*' |
| 11:01.45 | slayerbob | THE MAGIC PIXIES :D:D:D |
| 11:02.07 | anisX | i still on kde 3.2 |
| 11:02.12 | canllaith | lolol |
| 11:02.13 | anisX | and now kde3.4 is out..phew |
| 11:02.13 | canllaith | you so cute |
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| 11:02.22 | scrooge | lol |
| 11:02.26 | scrooge | aww crap |
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| 11:02.46 | scrooge | OMG!!! its playing! |
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| 11:05.01 | mfx- | re |
| 11:05.13 | mfx- | is there a tool for kde to convert *.dvi to *.pdf? |
| 11:05.22 | mfx- | s/for/in |
| 11:05.32 | Sirus | Hrmm it shouldn't be to hard to create a icon for the device cdrom and cdrom1 in user mode is it? |
| 11:05.58 | shastry | hey whats the service to be mentioned in konversation for identification ? |
| 11:06.04 | canllaith | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:06.09 | scrooge | lol |
| 11:06.13 | scrooge | yea nickserv shastry |
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| 11:06.24 | shastry | i thought it has to be .nickserv or some .identify |
| 11:06.26 | shastry | sheesh |
| 11:06.26 | scrooge | put in the ns identify password there |
| 11:06.30 | scrooge | :) |
| 11:07.06 | scrooge | aww man |
| 11:07.09 | scrooge | arts is fecked |
| 11:07.19 | scrooge | amarok only uses arts?? |
| 11:07.27 | anisX | first time i know linux..that is only xchat i know for irc..and now i still stick with xchat |
| 11:07.29 | anisX | phew~ |
| 11:07.43 | Sirus | Maybe I should ask how can I use kdesu to mount the device and open the device up in a window showing its contents? |
| 11:07.45 | scrooge | lol |
| 11:07.49 | anisX | scrooge: arts and xine ? i have xine engine here..but now using arts..crossfading rocks |
| 11:07.50 | chimaera | it can use arts, gst, libxine .. |
| 11:08.07 | scrooge | im using dmix atm |
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| 11:09.35 | scrooge | shit man |
| 11:09.37 | scrooge | time to restart |
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| 11:12.01 | anisX | wb scrooge |
| 11:12.08 | scrooge | ty, ty ^_^ |
| 11:12.21 | anisX | i see many people use @alone.user |
| 11:12.23 | anisX | how they do it ? |
| 11:12.31 | scrooge | many people? |
| 11:12.32 | scrooge | lol |
| 11:12.35 | scrooge | i have many nicks :P |
| 11:12.39 | anisX | yes.. |
| 11:12.44 | scrooge | #freenode |
| 11:12.47 | scrooge | its a cloak |
| 11:12.55 | scrooge | *.user |
| 11:13.20 | anisX | just enter that channel ? |
| 11:13.31 | scrooge | yea and try to find an op thats awake |
| 11:13.37 | scrooge | theres a faq somewhere |
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| 11:13.55 | scrooge | u have to set up a nick, set an email address with nickserv |
| 11:13.59 | scrooge | then make another nick for backup |
| 11:14.04 | scrooge | and link it to the first nick |
| 11:14.12 | scrooge | then u can ask them for a cloak |
| 11:14.26 | scrooge | they'll use the primary nick as the cloak |
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| 11:14.46 | scrooge | lol |
| 11:14.49 | anisX | i already has the nick with email |
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| 11:14.57 | shastry | wtf is happening with this |
| 11:15.00 | scrooge | wtf lmfao |
| 11:15.04 | scrooge | with wat? |
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| 11:15.12 | scrooge | anisX: ahh then u should be good |
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| 11:15.18 | scrooge | /msg alindeman or lilo |
| 11:15.21 | shastry | again ? |
| 11:15.21 | scrooge | or geert |
| 11:15.25 | scrooge | one of them has to be up ^_^ |
| 11:15.28 | shastry | konversation is killing me |
| 11:15.30 | scrooge | lol |
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| 11:16.49 | anisX | lilo on idle |
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| 11:17.29 | shastry | anisX, u need one more nick linked to this nick |
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| 11:17.53 | scrooge | dammit! |
| 11:17.54 | anisX | shastry: i already link this nick to another which are also my nick |
| 11:17.59 | anisX | wb sredna |
| 11:18.04 | shastry | ah ok |
| 11:18.14 | shastry | then go to #freenode and see which op talks |
| 11:18.17 | sredna | :) |
| 11:18.19 | shastry | then priv msg him |
| 11:18.23 | shastry | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:18.48 | anisX | okey..i will |
| 11:18.48 | anisX | thanks |
| 11:18.51 | scrooge | yea |
| 11:18.59 | scrooge | basically, whoever gives uyou voice, ask them :P |
| 11:19.05 | scrooge | brb...dammit arts! |
| 11:19.18 | anisX | i scare to msg them |
| 11:19.20 | anisX | heh |
| 11:19.34 | scrooge | lol |
| 11:19.36 | scrooge | tis all cool |
| 11:19.38 | shastry | anisX, lol dude they wont do wnathing |
| 11:19.42 | scrooge | they dont mind :P |
| 11:19.52 | anisX | shastry: dude..i am female :p |
| 11:19.57 | scrooge | ROFL |
| 11:19.58 | shastry | oh heh ok |
| 11:20.06 | shastry | lol |
| 11:20.20 | shastry | so what do i address u as instead of dude ? |
| 11:20.41 | anisX | heh =) |
| 11:21.14 | shastry | come on gimme some suggestons |
| 11:21.18 | shastry | u got a pet name ? |
| 11:21.35 | anisX | shastry: haha..just call me anis :p |
| 11:21.41 | anisX | yes..i has pet..which are cat |
| 11:21.44 | anisX | birman one |
| 11:21.52 | shastry | lol |
| 11:22.00 | shastry | petname != pet's name |
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| 11:22.09 | shastry | anis is kinda boring default |
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| 11:23.18 | thomask | is anybody here running Konqueror 3.3 ? |
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| 11:25.09 | scrooge | omg arts is broken now :( |
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| 11:25.20 | shastry | scrooge, wtf? hows that possible ? |
| 11:25.27 | scrooge | who knows |
| 11:25.39 | shastry | may be its just ur distro |
| 11:25.46 | scrooge | NO! |
| 11:25.50 | scrooge | its amarok :( |
| 11:25.53 | shastry | oh |
| 11:25.57 | shastry | i'll try that |
| 11:26.17 | scrooge | amarok works, b-m-p works |
| 11:26.22 | scrooge | even simultanesosly |
| 11:26.29 | scrooge | but not knotofy stuff |
| 11:26.33 | shastry | with dmix ? |
| 11:26.38 | scrooge | yes |
| 11:26.41 | scrooge | worked 2 seconds ago |
| 11:27.14 | ankurnayak | how can i lock a particual item in panel bar.....?? |
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| 11:27.16 | shastry | may be u need to set dmix device ? |
| 11:27.28 | scrooge | nah its all alsa |
| 11:27.51 | scrooge | lol |
| 11:27.56 | scrooge | harshness |
| 11:28.27 | Liquid_Byt3 | hey scrooge what distro u use? |
| 11:28.32 | shastry | scrooge, .. can i have ur asoundrc ? |
| 11:28.43 | scrooge | gentoo |
| 11:28.44 | scrooge | sure |
| 11:29.10 | Liquid_Byt3 | hm... i cannot install bootsplash |
| 11:29.43 | shastry | Liquid_Byt3, emerge splashutils |
| 11:30.04 | scrooge | shastry: intel8x0? |
| 11:30.15 | shastry | scrooge, nope (ens 1371) |
| 11:30.30 | thomask | sorry for repost: Anyone using the current konqueror? (trying to track down a "empty page" problem) |
| 11:30.43 | shastry | thomask, 3.4 |
| 11:30.46 | scrooge | i use current konq |
| 11:30.50 | scrooge | shastry: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_ALSA_sound_mixer_aka_dmix |
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| 11:32.07 | shastry | scrooge, ah ha looks like arch wiki has the same config ! |
| 11:32.11 | thomask | sccronge: http://dstress.kuehne.cn/addon/ shows up in Mozilla but presents an empty page with Konqi 3.2 ... |
| 11:32.29 | scrooge | ]> |
| 11:32.35 | scrooge | only thing i see on that page |
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| 11:33.23 | shastry | i see nothing |
| 11:33.24 | shastry | its empty |
| 11:33.25 | Liquid_Byt3 | shastry: my problem is that my debian dont wants to install de package |
| 11:33.30 | shastry | about:blank |
| 11:33.47 | shastry | Liquid_Byt3, debian ? |
| 11:33.51 | shastry | i thought gentoo |
| 11:35.00 | Liquid_Byt3 | shastry: debian :) |
| 11:35.18 | shastry | i dunno how it works in debian .. sry |
| 11:35.34 | Liquid_Byt3 | shastry: o tks! |
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| 11:36.04 | thomask | shastry: thx, konqueror doesn't pull the complete page (judging from the server logs) |
| 11:36.06 | scrooge | NOOOOOOO!!!!!!!! |
| 11:36.10 | scrooge | :((( |
| 11:36.18 | shastry | scrooge, ? |
| 11:36.22 | scrooge | sound |
| 11:36.47 | shastry | well.. try with dmix disabled |
| 11:37.42 | scrooge | its supposed to just work! |
| 11:37.48 | scrooge | it worked all this time! |
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| 11:37.53 | scrooge | dammit amarok! |
| 11:38.00 | anisX | heh |
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| 11:38.19 | shastry | bietch |
| 11:38.19 | anisX | i still remember when amarok does not function in fedora |
| 11:38.25 | shastry | it doesnt ? |
| 11:38.33 | anisX | shastry: that is my older nick |
| 11:38.40 | anisX | and now i changed to anisX |
| 11:38.41 | shastry | i know |
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| 11:38.53 | anisX | no no..im bietch |
| 11:38.58 | anisX | argh |
| 11:38.59 | shastry | i kinda like how u mispell bietch |
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| 11:39.02 | anisX | no no..im not bietch |
| 11:39.12 | anisX | bietch , not bitch |
| 11:39.13 | shastry | lol |
| 11:39.16 | anisX | haha |
| 11:39.18 | anisX | :) |
| 11:39.18 | shastry | ok ok |
| 11:39.37 | anisX | nothing to do with a nick , what is important is your attitude on irc |
| 11:39.38 | anisX | ;) |
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| 11:40.51 | anisX | ok brb..tv show! |
| 11:40.53 | anisX | -x- |
| 11:40.55 | shastry | c ya |
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| 11:41.59 | stonecol | How do I put Flash plugins in Konqueror 3.4 ? |
| 11:42.26 | shastry | stonecol, just like u did in 3.3 |
| 11:42.51 | shastry | point to the dorectory containing the flash plugin |
| 11:42.55 | stonecol | shastry: I was used to GNOME :) |
| 11:43.29 | shastry | in konq settings -> plugins |
| 11:43.52 | St0n3-C0l | ahan got it thanks ;) |
| 11:44.34 | Sirus` | This is crazy |
| 11:44.52 | Sirus` | What program is used to show the contents of a device in kde? |
| 11:45.01 | St0n3-C0l | who ?? you ? |
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| 11:45.19 | St0n3-C0l | KInfoCentre |
| 11:45.43 | shastry | Sirus, konq ? |
| 11:45.43 | shastry | St0n3-C0l, me ? |
| 11:45.46 | shastry | lol nm |
| 11:46.04 | Sirus` | hrmm |
| 11:46.36 | Sirus` | so konq /mnt/cdrom? |
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| 11:47.42 | St0n3-C0l | nah :P |
| 11:47.55 | St0n3-C0l | I think you're from India |
| 11:48.26 | St0n3-C0l | Sirus`: you want to know the info of all devices or ? |
| 11:48.26 | Sirus` | who? |
| 11:48.46 | St0n3-C0l | shastry :P |
| 11:49.04 | Sirus` | St0n3-C0l: I want an icon that will mount my cdrom and bring up a window with the stuff thats in /mnt/cdrom |
| 11:49.18 | scrooge | OMFGGGGG |
| 11:49.20 | scrooge | :| |
| 11:49.33 | shastry | St0n3-C0l, ofcourse i am |
| 11:49.56 | Sirus` | whats wrong scrooge ? |
| 11:50.10 | scrooge | sound! |
| 11:50.14 | scrooge | fuck |
| 11:50.16 | St0n3-C0l | shastry: then you must be happy :P bcoz India beaten Pakistan in their 1st ODI :P |
| 11:50.17 | Sirus` | :( |
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| 11:50.43 | Sirus` | St0n3-C0l: anyway to do that? |
| 11:51.28 | St0n3-C0l | Sirus`: GNOME got the option I think not sure bout KDE |
| 11:51.38 | jeroenvrp | hi folks |
| 11:51.42 | Sirus` | damn |
| 11:51.44 | jeroenvrp | question?! |
| 11:51.59 | jeroenvrp | are there allready konqueror-extensions? |
| 11:52.15 | Sirus` | St0n3-C0l: what program would bring up a window and show me the stuff in /mnt/cdrom? |
| 11:52.29 | jeroenvrp | except the google-search-extension shipped with KDE 3.4.0 |
| 11:52.59 | St0n3-C0l | Sirus`: wait lemme do an experiment |
| 11:53.11 | Sirus` | k |
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| 11:53.32 | St0n3-C0l | Yep I think jeroenvrp |
| 11:53.49 | jeroenvrp | St0n3-C0l: Where? |
| 11:54.14 | jeroenvrp | where to download them |
| 11:56.57 | St0n3-C0l | jeroenvrp: <jeroenvrp> are there allready konqueror-extensions? except the google-search-extension shipped with KDE 3.4.0 |
| 11:57.11 | St0n3-C0l | Sirus`: It doesn't does automounting |
| 11:57.26 | jeroenvrp | St0n3-C0l: yes that was my question??? |
| 11:57.36 | Sirus` | so I can't use a icon for my devices in kde? |
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| 11:58.27 | St0n3-C0l | Sirus`: u can for harddrive |
| 11:58.58 | St0n3-C0l | jeroenvrp: If u mean to other search extensions then yes |
| 11:59.07 | Sirus` | Heh that sux |
| 11:59.10 | Sirus` | thx tho |
| 11:59.24 | Sirus` | St0n3-C0l: I dont suppose you know how to encrypt email? |
| 11:59.52 | St0n3-C0l | Client ? |
| 12:00.09 | Sirus` | kmail dont know of a better client |
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| 12:00.25 | St0n3-C0l | Sirus`: Right-Click on the Desktop -> Create New -> Link To Device -> devicess! |
| 12:00.30 | St0n3-C0l | I use Thunderbird :P |
| 12:01.01 | Sirus` | St0n3-C0l: , that doesn't do anything |
| 12:01.30 | Sirus` | for the device box put /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom/? |
| 12:01.48 | St0n3-C0l | u need to mount that thing first |
| 12:01.55 | St0n3-C0l | mount /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom |
| 12:02.39 | Sirus` | hrmm |
| 12:02.40 | jeroenvrp | St0n3-C0l: I was wishing for an adblock-extension for example |
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| 12:03.17 | xz | hey - anyone know how to get shortcut keys for accented characters ? i think i mean deadkeys (what are they ?) |
| 12:03.40 | St0n3-C0l | Popups? |
| 12:04.08 | Sirus` | Could not mount device. |
| 12:04.08 | Sirus` | The reported error was: |
| 12:04.10 | Sirus` | mount: can't find mount /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom/ in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab |
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| 12:05.27 | jeroenvrp | xz: Go to control panel |
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| 12:05.59 | eaumechant | Wysiwyg!! |
| 12:05.59 | xz | jeroenvrp: yes ? do you want me to switch the layout to us w/deadkeys ? i don't know how the deadkeys work in that... but anyway i use dvorak - is there one for that ? |
| 12:06.04 | jeroenvrp | xz: it s under country settings |
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| 12:07.37 | jeroenvrp | xz: I dont see dvorak with dead keys |
| 12:07.38 | Enforcer_JB | hi everybody |
| 12:07.58 | jeroenvrp | are they not standard under dvorak? |
| 12:08.10 | eaumechant | I think deadkeys is a linux software thing |
| 12:08.18 | eaumechant | oh don't worry I just understood |
| 12:09.19 | xz | jeroenvrp: hey i think they are... it seems to be working è... |
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| 12:13.02 | Enforcer_JB | I am trying to create a servicemenu which includes "`echo %f | perl -pe 's/^(.*)\.([^.]+)$/$1_10%.$2/'`" ... on the command line this works perfectly, but in the .desktop file I only get "%." as the filename. any ideaS? Do I need to escape additional characters compared to console? |
| 12:13.27 | Enforcer_JB | "in the desktop file" meaning "when I use this servicemenu in konq." |
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| 12:13.43 | eaumechant | yo all |
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| 12:15.50 | Enforcer_JB | same thing happens when removing the "%" char out of the regex |
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| 12:16.09 | membreya | what |
| 12:16.28 | membreya | what's a good app to provide compatibility with netmeeting? |
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| 12:17.12 | Enforcer_JB | gnomemeeting? <g> |
| 12:17.39 | membreya | I need to receive webcam footage and my ex only has windows :| |
| 12:17.42 | Enforcer_JB | ouch. |
| 12:18.08 | membreya | and I refuse to go into windows if I can help it ;) |
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| 12:18.48 | scrooge | sound will never work again |
| 12:18.49 | scrooge | period |
| 12:18.50 | scrooge | at all |
| 12:18.52 | scrooge | im screwed |
| 12:19.50 | membreya | why no sound scrooge ? |
| 12:19.52 | anisX | scrooge: be patient.. |
| 12:19.53 | anisX | :/ |
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| 12:21.51 | scrooge | i have NO clue |
| 12:21.55 | scrooge | it worked perfect |
| 12:21.59 | scrooge | then i ran amarok |
| 12:22.05 | scrooge | and now it will never work again |
| 12:22.14 | Enforcer_JB | did your soundcard blow up? |
| 12:22.22 | Enforcer_JB | catch fire? |
| 12:22.22 | anisX | scrooge: i think something to do with kdemultimedia ? |
| 12:22.34 | scrooge | nah its a laptop |
| 12:22.41 | scrooge | anisX: sumtin like wat tho? :/ |
| 12:22.46 | scrooge | i didnt change notin |
| 12:22.46 | anisX | i cant play amarok last time because of kdemultimedia |
| 12:22.51 | scrooge | hmm |
| 12:23.07 | anisX | scrooge: try #amarok |
| 12:23.08 | Frost^ | is there a kde app I can use to view network traffic? |
| 12:23.12 | anisX | maybe they can help you |
| 12:23.17 | scrooge | k |
| 12:23.23 | scrooge | hey |
| 12:23.28 | scrooge | oops |
| 12:23.29 | scrooge | lol |
| 12:23.33 | anisX | Frost^: i just use superkaramba to show the network traffic |
| 12:23.45 | anisX | others than that..no idea |
| 12:24.32 | Frost^ | anisX, http://img1.tapuz.co.il/forums/50278015.jpg |
| 12:24.37 | xz | anyone here know how deadkeys work ? |
| 12:24.41 | Frost^ | look at the bottom right icon of the systray |
| 12:24.48 | Frost^ | any idea what is that app? |
| 12:25.01 | anisX | opening.. |
| 12:25.07 | Enforcer_JB | xz, what do you need? |
| 12:25.24 | xz | enforcer_jb: i'd like to be able to write accented characters easily |
| 12:25.57 | xz | enforcer_jb: using the dvorak keyboard layout |
| 12:26.07 | anisX | Frost^: no idea baby..sorry |
| 12:26.12 | xz | enforcer_jb: and kde, of course ... (and x has something to do with it does it ?) |
| 12:26.30 | Frost^ | thanks anyway |
| 12:26.37 | xz | enforcer_jb: well i suppose x deals with the keyboard directly so it must.. |
| 12:26.39 | Enforcer_JB | xz, try xkeycaps (I think), it's an X11 utiliy to remap keyboard layoyuts |
| 12:26.40 | Frost^ | I guess I'll bump into it sooner or later |
| 12:26.40 | Frost^ | :) |
| 12:26.51 | anisX | Frost^: np..nothing i do |
| 12:26.57 | Enforcer_JB | Frost^, try a kicker applet. |
| 12:27.06 | Enforcer_JB | Frost^, or try Sim |
| 12:27.20 | Frost^ | sim? |
| 12:27.25 | Frost^ | what kicker applet? |
| 12:27.35 | xz | enforcer_jb: "command not found" |
| 12:30.07 | Enforcer_JB | xz, I'm not gonna tell you how to use Google and RPM |
| 12:30.08 | Enforcer_JB | xz, ;) |
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| 12:30.08 | Frost^ | hocico |
| 12:30.08 | Enforcer_JB | Frost^, KSim, sorry |
| 12:30.08 | xz | enforcer_jb: oh... well it would be emerge with my gentoo box =P. so ok i'll look for this program. thanks... |
| 12:30.08 | Frost^ | wasn't able to see them live, unfortunately |
| 12:30.09 | Enforcer_JB | Frost^, kicker -> add panel -> control panel -> KSim (I think those are the english words) |
| 12:30.10 | Enforcer_JB | Frost^, or, kicker -> add mini program -> system watch (or something like that, I only have German KDE) |
| 12:30.10 | anisX | what is kicker ? |
| 12:30.10 | Frost^ | the kde panel |
| 12:30.11 | Enforcer_JB | anisX the panel where your "start button" and the task bar and the clock is |
| 12:30.11 | moxilo | buenos dias/good morning |
| 12:30.11 | Frost^ | Enforcer_JB, got it |
| 12:30.12 | Frost^ | thanks |
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| 12:31.55 | anisX | Enforcer_JB: thanks.. |
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| 12:32.27 | shastry | hey is there anyway to create a custom menu for kicker ? |
| 12:32.30 | shastry | panel i mean |
| 12:32.48 | shastry | (like there are drawers in gnome) |
| 12:33.23 | Enforcer_JB | shastry, you can create sub panels as many as you want |
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| 12:33.55 | Enforcer_JB | shastry, you can also put any submenu out of the K menu into its own kicker icon |
| 12:34.07 | shastry | Enforcer_JB, i want a men like the kmenu |
| 12:34.19 | shastry | Custom Menu |
| 12:34.48 | shastry | for example i want to group all my most used progs into a menu |
| 12:35.20 | shastry | do u get what i want ? |
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| 12:36.11 | Enforcer_JB | shastry, yup. |
| 12:36.24 | Enforcer_JB | shastry, create this menu _inside_ the K menu (with kmenuedit) |
| 12:36.58 | Enforcer_JB | shastry, then open the K menu and drag your submenu on the panel, somewhere |
| 12:37.03 | shastry | well.. i dont want it in kmenu |
| 12:37.15 | shastry | i just want it on kicker |
| 12:37.27 | Enforcer_JB | shastry, then hide it in the k menu. kmenuedit provides for that |
| 12:37.37 | Enforcer_JB | other than that: learn C++. ;) |
| 12:37.52 | shastry | lol |
| 12:37.59 | shastry | the C++ is a nice idea |
| 12:38.03 | shastry | i'm actually learning qt now |
| 12:38.07 | shastry | just started |
| 12:38.08 | shastry | hah |
| 12:38.14 | Enforcer_JB | oh, you too? |
| 12:38.40 | shastry | lol you too ? |
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| 12:40.15 | Enforcer_JB | well.. I have a couple itches to scratch in places like amarok and digikam and KGet and I thought maybe I could help a bit. so I thought hey, this would be THE opportunity to start reading this Linux C++ book I won five years ago :-) |
| 12:41.30 | shastry | ahaha |
| 12:43.10 | Sirus` | brb |
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| 12:51.25 | gourdin | hu |
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| 12:55.14 | shastry | scrooge, move ur old config to somewhere else and start kde |
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| 12:55.41 | scrooge | thats torture d00d |
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| 13:03.15 | xz | anyone here know what compose keys are ? |
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| 13:04.49 | scrooge | len = 3760, can_write = 5512, errno = 17 (File exists) |
| 13:04.51 | scrooge | wtf is that |
| 13:04.52 | scrooge | :S |
| 13:04.57 | scrooge | everything is breaking :(( |
| 13:04.57 | ponto | xy: ctrl or alt or esc |
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| 13:06.29 | xz | ponto: oh i know which key it is, but do you know where there's documentation on it ? what is it ? i found this table (http://www.schwarzvogel.de/compose.shtml) but i want to know why there isn't a table like that in x documentation or kde documentation |
| 13:08.06 | ponto | xz: that i don't know |
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| 13:08.17 | moominski | hi any1 know any good websites for cusomizin kde |
| 13:08.27 | moominski | customizin |
| 13:08.36 | shastry | moominski, kde-look.org |
| 13:08.52 | moominski | i mean like howto's |
| 13:08.53 | xz | ponto: hmm ok. it's strange how there's so little documentations on keyboard... and no good access to the keyboard layout in the control center (should be able to make custom ones) anyway - i'm off now |
| 13:09.22 | apokryphos | moominski: there are some there |
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| 13:09.27 | moominski | ok |
| 13:09.35 | apokryphos | moominski: well, howtos on what to do with the things provided at the site. |
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| 13:12.41 | Xypher | hello |
| 13:13.42 | shastry | scrooge, amarok is working fine here :) |
| 13:13.53 | scrooge | d00d |
| 13:13.58 | scrooge | its not amarok that doesnt work |
| 13:14.02 | scrooge | its knotify! |
| 13:14.47 | Xypher | i was hoping someone could help a poor linux n00b with a display resolution issue... |
| 13:15.01 | scrooge | ? |
| 13:15.04 | Xypher | o kde knowledge repository of bodies ;) |
| 13:15.04 | scrooge | wats it? |
| 13:15.08 | ponto | Xypher: do not talk about your question. akt it. |
| 13:15.09 | scrooge | lol |
| 13:15.56 | scrooge | well |
| 13:15.57 | Xypher | well, i installed the latest nvidia driver (using Mandrake 10.2b2 x86-64) and now i can't set my rez to 2048x1536, while it was doing just fine at that insane resolution before the driver update |
| 13:16.04 | scrooge | i got my touchpad scroll wheel working |
| 13:16.10 | scrooge | but still no sound >_< |
| 13:16.14 | Xypher | i've tried adding Modes to my XF86Config but that doesn't help |
| 13:16.57 | Xypher | so i'm thinking its KDE for some reason |
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| 13:17.36 | ponto | Xypher: in /var/log/XFree86.0.log you will find a reason, why the server skipped your dimension settings |
| 13:17.40 | shastry | Xypher, krandrtray might be of some use |
| 13:17.51 | Xypher | k, i'll check, thanks |
| 13:18.35 | ponto | Xypher: i bet this is not a kde issue |
| 13:18.45 | Xypher | 's why i came here :) |
| 13:20.45 | Xypher | hmmm |
| 13:20.46 | Xypher | brb |
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| 13:23.06 | MegaByte | Hey... |
| 13:23.26 | scrooge | hi |
| 13:23.35 | MegaByte | does anyone know how do I make konsole read either from .profile or .bash_profile so it will set my environment variables? |
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| 13:24.10 | MegaByte | scrooge, do you? |
| 13:24.13 | Xypher | apparently i forgot to reload after i added Option "IgnoreEDID" >.< |
| 13:24.21 | Xypher | thanks for your help =) |
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| 13:29.43 | carsten | anyone in here with KDE 3.3.x _not_ on gentoo? |
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| 13:30.16 | carsten | Can you confirm konq is unable to render this side: http://pingwinaria.linux.org.pl/PLUG/imprezy/pingwinaria/2005/dojazd/ |
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| 13:31.29 | LordGrunt | hi, im on kde 3.4. how can i configure kdewallet? |
| 13:31.40 | ponto | LordGrunt: kcontrol has a module |
| 13:31.41 | sonoud | hi, i am trying to use kate for programming now instead of vim and emacs. in kate, is there a function to shift the line in my code to right position? I always spent a lot of times to find out where should a bracket go. because kate can't put the bracket automatically to the right position. |
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| 13:32.02 | carsten | sonoud: you meen like == in vim? |
| 13:32.17 | shastry | is there a way to shade/unshade a window with mouse wheel roll over the window decoration ? |
| 13:32.20 | ponto | or as TAB in emacs |
| 13:32.22 | sonoud | carsten, yeah. == in vim. and tab in emacs. |
| 13:32.32 | sredna | sonoud: What language do you program? |
| 13:32.34 | sonoud | ponto, exactly. |
| 13:32.34 | carsten | sonoud: I also never found out |
| 13:32.41 | sonoud | sredna, java |
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| 13:33.01 | sredna | sonoud: And btw, #kate is the right forum, but you left very quickly |
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| 13:33.40 | sonoud | sredna, how do you know? there are too few people inside. i doubt they will answer my question. |
| 13:34.02 | sredna | sonoud: You can use kates cstyle or csands indenter with java, try if you like them. Tools->indent mode. You can also use a kate variable or modeline to enable it pr file (kate: Indent-mode cstyle;' or use a file type to configure pr mimetype |
| 13:34.02 | ponto | sonoud: if sredna is there, you will get all question answered |
| 13:34.34 | sredna | sonoud: I'm allways in there, and I am usually trying to be helpfull. Just call me by name |
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| 13:34.47 | ponto | sredna: the indenters are as-you-type indenters or do they react on TAB? |
| 13:35.12 | sonoud | sredna, i am calling you. is there a such function? |
| 13:35.31 | sredna | ponto: They react on newline and certain characters (like ), ; and such), and there is a 'align' button that can be bound to a key |
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| 13:35.45 | sredna | sonoud: Well, read above ;) |
| 13:35.59 | chakie | i have been waiting to switch to kate some day for my editing needs |
| 13:36.25 | sonoud | sredna, hi, i don't really understand. sorry. |
| 13:36.35 | ponto | I know two users who wait for the TAB feature before they switch to kate. however they use kate to print text files. |
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| 13:36.51 | imo | hi all |
| 13:36.55 | sredna | sonoud: If you dislike kates cstyle indenters, try the 'normal' indenter, it will just keep your indentaiton level. You can then use indent and unindnet to adjust the level (ctrl [+ shift] + i) |
| 13:37.34 | sredna | sonoud: Well, in the Tools menu there is a 'Indentation' submenu with some options |
| 13:37.57 | chakie | kate does most of what i want, it's mostly a process of getting my emacsism out of my backbone :) |
| 13:38.11 | sredna | sonoud: Try the 'cstyle' one, or 'csands' which is probably better if you use TAB characters for indentation |
| 13:38.17 | chakie | although block selection and scriptability would be nice |
| 13:38.48 | sonoud | sredna, yeah, i know that. but is there a such function like tab in emacs and == in vim? ctrl+i won't put the brackets to fixed position. |
| 13:38.49 | sredna | chakie: We have block selection, edit->block selection mode to enable (ctrl + shift + b) |
| 13:39.08 | chakie | sredna: oh, have to test it |
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| 13:39.28 | Flendor | Hello. |
| 13:39.33 | sredna | sonoud: Tools->Align recalculates the indentation according to your indentation settings, it is implemented by your active indenter |
| 13:39.39 | sredna | Hi Flendor |
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| 13:39.42 | MAXMEX | Hi :) |
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| 13:39.47 | Flendor | Hey there Sredna, how goes? |
| 13:39.51 | Flendor | Hello MAXMEX |
| 13:39.57 | chakie | sredna: the block selection behaves a bit weirdly |
| 13:40.14 | sredna | Flendor: I was distracted, I'm now installing sane instead of doing something productive :o |
| 13:40.14 | MAXMEX | i'am fine... Flendor :) |
| 13:40.30 | sredna | chakie: It does not like TAB characters |
| 13:40.46 | sredna | chakie: It will hopefully be improved a lot for kde 3.5 |
| 13:41.02 | sredna | Hi MAXMEX too |
| 13:41.29 | chakie | sredna: well, i just copied some text from konversation. entered selection, shift down and move the cursor around to select. some lines are fully highlighted |
| 13:41.57 | sredna | chakie: If you experience bugs, please report them |
| 13:42.46 | chakie | sredna: http://www.smultron.net/tmp/kate.png |
| 13:43.09 | chakie | you see where the cursor is, as well as where i started the selection (up to the left) |
| 13:43.33 | chakie | every second line is shown like that, and every second is shown as it should |
| 13:43.42 | sredna | chakie: Dynamic word wrap is on, that does not work well with block selections either. Press F10 |
| 13:43.57 | scrooge | ok now i need to get this crap working again |
| 13:44.01 | chakie | sredna: ah, ok |
| 13:44.04 | scrooge | im using gstreamer with amarok |
| 13:44.15 | chakie | sredna: then it looks very nice indeed |
| 13:44.16 | scrooge | knotify still dont work |
| 13:44.20 | MegaByte | does anyone know how do I make konsole read either from .profile or .bash_profile so it will set my environment variables? |
| 13:44.21 | scrooge | is there configs i can wipe out? |
| 13:44.23 | sredna | :) |
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| 13:44.52 | sredna | MegaByte: If your KDE session does not derive a login shell your system is misconfigured |
| 13:45.03 | chakie | sredna: if it only did "C-x r t" too :) |
| 13:45.15 | MegaByte | sredna, I'm not under a kde session |
| 13:45.23 | sredna | MegaByte: But you can just edit your default session in konsole's configuration |
| 13:45.24 | MegaByte | sredna, I'm running konsole in xfce |
| 13:45.37 | sonoud | sredna, i am so sorry. i still don't know how align works. it still doesn't put the code to right position. |
| 13:45.46 | sredna | MegaByte: If xfce does not derive a login session, your system is misconfigured |
| 13:45.57 | sonoud | sredna, it just doesn't do anything when i press align. |
| 13:46.12 | sredna | sonoud: What is your indentation mode set to? |
| 13:46.56 | ponto | sredna: i have indentation mode set to C-Style. i've made a new file and align seems to work. but for a given file it does nothing. Is there any reason? |
| 13:47.02 | sonoud | sredna, I am not sure which mode do you mean. inside configure kate, indentation, i ticked activated. |
| 13:47.18 | sonoud | sredna, oh, i see it. normal |
| 13:47.24 | sonoud | sredna, it's normal mode. |
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| 13:47.45 | sonoud | sredna, i only have three modes. normal, c style, python style. |
| 13:47.47 | sredna | sonoud: In normal mode it won't do anything. |
| 13:47.53 | sredna | Try c style |
| 13:48.07 | sonoud | sredna, but actually i am using java. can I install java style? |
| 13:48.35 | sredna | We have no java style yet. But java is a c-like language, so c style should do fine |
| 13:49.01 | MegaByte | sredna, thanks, fixed it |
| 13:49.16 | sredna | MegaByte: :) |
| 13:49.19 | sonoud | sredna, thanks. it works. |
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| 13:49.57 | sredna | sonoud: Good. FYI, we are improving a lot on the indentation, so with kde 3.4 you will get more/better options |
| 13:50.02 | MegaByte | sredna, Do you know how do I make bash read from two files? |
| 13:50.15 | sredna | sonoud: And for kde 3.5 yet better... |
| 13:50.27 | ponto | MegaByte: you can always source the second file. |
| 13:50.28 | sredna | MegaByte: Source one from the other |
| 13:50.32 | ponto | sredna: what is going to be better? |
| 13:50.43 | MegaByte | Yeah, just did that |
| 13:50.44 | MegaByte | :) |
| 13:50.50 | sonoud | sredna, i am looking forward. cheers. |
| 13:51.21 | sredna | ponto: Well, we have in 3.4 a xml indenter for example, and we are wonking on improving the indenters, making them pluggable and individually configurable too. |
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| 13:53.24 | underlord | i have kjobviewer (the printer job viewer app) open in my systray, i open konqueror, and drag a selection of jpeg photos in to the systray icon, it doesnt work. wheres the usability in that, people expect that if they pick up some photos and put them in to the printer it will print them, this should be changed, agree? |
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| 13:54.07 | ponto | sredna: in the indentation dialog on the bottom one can choose from three options what to do with the TAB key. why not changing the last option to "Align line" when an indenter is active? |
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| 13:54.50 | scrooge | w0000000000000tttttttttttt1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111 |
| 13:54.57 | Flendor | :D |
| 13:54.59 | ponto | underlord: file a bug or whishlist report. it seems reasonable |
| 13:54.59 | scrooge | sorry bout that but IM HAPPY!!! :D:D:D |
| 13:55.01 | Flendor | Was hat passiert? |
| 13:55.04 | sredna | underlord: Go file a wish item in http://bugs.kde.org |
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| 13:55.15 | underlord | will do |
| 13:55.34 | sredna | ponto: I haven't in my head what the current one is |
| 13:55.51 | scrooge | knotify, amarok, AND beep-media-player work simultaneously!!! |
| 13:55.55 | sredna | ponto: But since many people wants that, it would probably ne a nice option |
| 13:56.53 | underlord | adding wishes and bugs is so damn tedious, it should be more streamlined so users dont think "damn, that app crashed, do i care enough to bother reporting it?" in my oppinion |
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| 14:00.28 | ponto | sredna: does one of the both indenters emulate emacs indention? |
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| 14:04.50 | sredna | ponto: You mean weirdo mixed tabs and spaces? |
| 14:04.53 | sredna | :o |
| 14:05.12 | ponto | sredna: not that. |
| 14:05.17 | sredna | Lol, what then? |
| 14:05.24 | ponto | sredna: whan to indent how far |
| 14:07.11 | sredna | ponto: No, they don't. They use the indentation configuration in kate (wether to use tabs or spaces, indent width) and calculates when to increase/decrease by one level. It also does alignment in come cases. Later, it will all be configurable, and it is far from at any optimal state yet, but it's at least improving. |
| 14:08.01 | ponto | sredna: i wonder whether the emacs indetion algorithm is available in readable form for c++ programmers. |
| 14:08.40 | ponto | sredna: I once wanted to write my own indenter but decided that this is only possible when one has a full blown c++ parser. |
| 14:09.46 | sredna | ponto: One of the things that kates indenters does is using data from the highlighter. |
| 14:10.27 | sredna | ponto: This makes calculating some things faster/safer, without doing actual parsing. |
| 14:11.40 | ponto | sredna: yes, but correctly indenting template arguments or other c++ peculiarites is hard without a parser |
| 14:13.09 | sredna | ponto: Absolutely |
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| 14:15.03 | scrooge | omg |
| 14:15.05 | scrooge | i love u guys! |
| 14:15.08 | scrooge | amarok r0x0rs! |
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| 14:23.11 | hays | hmm why no kde 3.4 screenshots yet? |
| 14:24.51 | scrooge | high standars |
| 14:24.52 | scrooge | haha |
| 14:24.55 | scrooge | i have one |
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| 14:29.38 | apokryphos | hays: there aren't any official ones put on kde.org yet, but there are a few flying about, like these kubuntu ones: http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=295&slide=14&title=kde+3.4+screenshots |
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| 14:31.06 | Palos | hi |
| 14:31.43 | Palos | I am trying to install kdebluetooth but it says configure: error: you need to install kdelibs first. |
| 14:31.59 | MegaByte | Palos, install kdelibs |
| 14:32.00 | Palos | I have it already installed, and I have to update whole KDE to latest stable version |
| 14:32.03 | MegaByte | oh |
| 14:32.24 | sredna | Palos: Did you install kdelibs from source? |
| 14:32.26 | MegaByte | Paleo, is kdebluetooth part of KDE 3.4? |
| 14:32.33 | Palos | i have installed fc3 rpms |
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| 14:32.42 | Paleo | I don't know, ask Palos :) |
| 14:32.48 | hays | just a long shot run ldconfig |
| 14:32.49 | Palos | i have downloaded kdebluetooth beta |
| 14:32.53 | sredna | Palos: Then you need a development package, usually they are named <package>-devel |
| 14:32.58 | ponto | Paleo: i guess you do not have installed the devel package |
| 14:33.05 | sredna | Palos: So that would give 'kdelibs-devel' |
| 14:33.08 | Palos | i have also devel packages |
| 14:33.10 | Paleo | lol |
| 14:33.10 | shastry | anyone know if mouse scroll ove titlebar can make the window shaded or unshaded ? |
| 14:33.18 | sredna | Palos: They contain headers and such |
| 14:33.19 | Paleo | confusing nicks |
| 14:33.27 | Palos | it says i have to use ./configure --prefix=$(kde-config --prefix) |
| 14:33.34 | ponto | Paleo: ups, sorry |
| 14:33.40 | Palos | i wonder is only ./configure is enought |
| 14:33.40 | Paleo | np |
| 14:34.24 | Palos | sredna I have devel packages also |
| 14:34.33 | Palos | and ran ldconfig |
| 14:35.24 | markey | uhm, a Paleo doppelganger? |
| 14:35.31 | markey | what kind of trick is this |
| 14:35.37 | Palos | what? |
| 14:36.06 | Paleo | loll |
| 14:36.09 | markey | a copycat |
| 14:36.17 | markey | I pity the fool |
| 14:36.49 | Paleo | Am i gonna die, following the "legend" |
| 14:36.50 | Paleo | :( |
| 14:36.53 | Palos | somebody knows if i have to use --prefix option? |
| 14:37.41 | markey | yeah use it |
| 14:38.21 | Palos | it is unable to find kdelibs |
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| 14:39.24 | markey | you realize you need to install the -devel package as well? |
| 14:39.55 | Palos | [root@base ~]# rpm -q kdelibs-devel |
| 14:39.55 | Palos | kdelibs-devel-3.3.1-2.9.FC3 |
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| 14:48.36 | sredna | Palos: Is kde-config in your PATH? |
| 14:48.43 | sredna | And uic and moc? |
| 14:49.50 | ponto | Paleo: you can see in your config.log what exactly failed. you have to scroll from the end a little bit up to see the error |
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| 14:50.28 | Palos | sredna I am as root |
| 14:50.42 | Palos | I mean for compiling |
| 14:51.26 | shastry | Palos, well.. how do u get to the root terminal ? |
| 14:51.26 | shastry | su |
| 14:51.26 | shastry | or su - ? |
| 14:51.49 | sredna | Palos: There is no reason to be root for compiling, actually on the contrary |
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| 14:52.33 | sredna | Palos: And if the redhat chief is only a wee bit sane, root will not have a users PATH |
| 14:52.46 | shastry | ./configure and make as user |
| 14:52.46 | shastry | make install as root |
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| 14:53.28 | Palos | su - |
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| 14:54.25 | shastry | Palos, well.. try ./configure and make as user |
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| 14:57.30 | Palos | I always have suppossed that root has the paths of all users and also his specific |
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| 14:59.17 | Palos | does not work either |
| 14:59.34 | sredna | Palos: So what is the error? |
| 15:00.15 | Palos | checking for KDE... libraries /usr/lib, headers /usr/include/kde |
| 15:00.15 | Palos | checking if UIC has KDE plugins available... no |
| 15:00.15 | Palos | configure: error: you need to install kdelibs first. |
| 15:00.55 | sredna | Palos: So it does not find uic. Do you have a package named qt-devel installed? |
| 15:01.04 | sredna | And if not, is one available? |
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| 15:02.03 | Palos | yes, qt-devel-3.3.3-8 |
| 15:02.30 | Palos | i have it installe |
| 15:03.18 | sredna | So, is 'uic' in your PATH? |
| 15:03.36 | Palos | there is no folder named "uic" , where should it be? |
| 15:03.47 | sredna | Palos: 'uic' is a executable |
| 15:03.56 | sredna | (a program) |
| 15:04.36 | Palos | yes, i have |
| 15:04.36 | Palos | [maikel@base kdebluetooth-1.0_beta1]$ uic |
| 15:04.36 | Palos | Qt user interface compiler. |
| 15:04.36 | Palos | Usage: uic [options] [mode] <uifile> |
| 15:05.05 | Palos | what has uic to do with kdelibs? |
| 15:05.31 | sredna | Palos: Good. If you installed kdelibs-devel, you are assumed to have the kde plugins for uic. |
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| 15:06.39 | sredna | Palos: Start the program 'qtconfig' and make sure that you have "$(kde-config --prefix)/lib/kde3/plugins" in the Library Paths |
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| 15:08.23 | Inv1s1ble | hmm...why am I in #kde? |
| 15:08.29 | Inv1s1ble | man I was really drunk last night |
| 15:08.30 | Palos | -bash: qtconfig: command not found |
| 15:08.39 | Inv1s1ble | amaroK rocks btw! |
| 15:10.27 | Palos | sredna where is the config file that holds paths? |
| 15:10.29 | sredna | Palos: Best advice: Throw out redhat, and get something else :o |
| 15:10.46 | sredna | Palos: In ~/.qt |
| 15:11.06 | Palos | yeah, i have tried gentoo 2005.0 but is plenty of bugs and problems |
| 15:11.19 | Palos | ubuntu only has gnome.......... |
| 15:11.28 | Palos | sucks |
| 15:11.32 | sredna | Kubuntu!! |
| 15:12.03 | Palos | yeah, but it is still beta (i think) |
| 15:12.07 | apokryphos | Nope |
| 15:12.19 | apokryphos | I mean, yes =). Official is out on the 8th |
| 15:12.21 | sredna | Then there is of course slackware, mandrake, pclinuxonlineos, conectiva... |
| 15:12.35 | apokryphos | Palos: RC was released a few days ago |
| 15:13.25 | Palos | i have tried debian 3.0ra but sucks also |
| 15:13.29 | Palos | is really outdated |
| 15:14.17 | ponto | do not forget suse |
| 15:14.30 | apokryphos | If you want KDE for Debian, you should go for Mepis or Kubuntu |
| 15:14.53 | apokryphos | Debian-based |
| 15:14.53 | Palos | i have tried suse and slacware few years ago, and were a shit. Yast always was working crappy |
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| 15:14.57 | mankeletor | hi |
| 15:15.19 | Palos | apokryphos so debian does not love too much kde? |
| 15:15.31 | ponto | sredna: How hard would it be to have such a feature: when there is a gcc error in the terminal of kate and one clicks on the error message blabla.C:118 Missing ... kate jumps to this file and to this line? |
| 15:15.37 | Palos | i mean mandrake instead of slackware lol |
| 15:15.52 | apokryphos | Palos: there's a reasonable debian-kde team by the looks of it, it's just that those two other are kde-debian-based distros |
| 15:16.20 | sredna | ponto: Not possible at all. There is a make plugin in kde-addons, but it is not compiled pr default |
| 15:16.56 | mankeletor | how i must to do for install fonts? |
| 15:17.25 | Palos | kde-i18n-language ? |
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| 15:17.49 | ponto | sredna: the konsole part offers no singals? |
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| 15:18.15 | vick | Hello. |
| 15:18.29 | sredna | ponto: Feel free to prove me wrong... |
| 15:18.41 | derelm | can khotkeys be reconfigured using dcop? i want to activate another "special-keys-layout" on a keypress |
| 15:18.44 | vick | I've updated using rpm kde from kde 3.2 to kde 3.4, i'm use the distro fedora core 3. |
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| 15:18.55 | vick | However when i tried to login after updating using the rpm, it logged me to kde 3.2 |
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| 15:19.08 | vick | But then i checked the "startkde" command and it ran the old kde |
| 15:19.08 | Dave321 | KWallet does a good job saving my passwords, but every time I open or save a remote document I need to log in to the sftp server. Is there any way to make KDE automatically click okay? If not, I have passwordless ssh set up, but KDE doesn't seem to recognize it! Thanks! |
| 15:19.11 | vick | How can i fix that ? |
| 15:19.12 | apokryphos | vick: you didn't update through synaptic/apt? |
| 15:19.24 | ponto | sredna: i've made a plugin which is able to compile the current open file and which has such a functionality. but this is not the true thing. |
| 15:19.27 | vick | apokryphos, no, i've used rpm -Uvh *.rpm |
| 15:19.39 | apokryphos | vick: Why not? It's in the repositories. :) |
| 15:19.52 | vick | heh. |
| 15:20.37 | vick | Anyway |
| 15:20.52 | derelm | oh and btw: i wonder why khotkeys exposes the same "groups" as kded instead if its own |
| 15:21.06 | vick | So how do i solve it ? |
| 15:21.09 | sredna | ponto: Well, I have a stub lying around which basically allows you to run a command and display the filtered output in a text widget with hypertext support. It would allow you to create a very nice implementation of what you want. |
| 15:21.37 | sredna | Gtg |
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| 15:22.41 | apokryphos | vick: I wouldn't really know. You should really consider using repositories though, when possible. Makes updates etc. easier |
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| 15:23.07 | apokryphos | your issue there could be a great number of things |
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| 16:14.04 | rakey | what is 'dcopserver'? and why am I getting an error on it when I launch kde for the first time |
| 16:14.33 | sredna | radi0head: Dcopserver is KDE's interprocess communication server |
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| 16:15.15 | rakey | yeah, that's what the error said.. |
| 16:15.15 | thiago | Desktop COmmunication Protocol |
| 16:15.22 | rakey | and |
| 16:15.25 | sredna | If startkde gives you errors related to it, try remove files named ~/.DCOP* and ~/.ICE* |
| 16:15.33 | rakey | Ah. |
| 16:15.49 | rakey | well, I still managed to get into KPersonalizer.. |
| 16:15.56 | rakey | so I can set up the system if I want |
| 16:16.09 | rakey | but what are the concequences of this thing not working? |
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| 16:17.23 | rakey | ? |
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| 16:22.35 | roger55 | hi. I think I remember there was some kde app/applet that would "swallow" all gimp windows so they would act more like one window. can anyone remember the name of what I'm thinking of? |
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| 16:28.53 | rakey | I have an error...... KDE dcopserver just doesn't work... |
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| 16:29.46 | da_bon_bon | in konqueror if i click on devices i get error "devices : not a supported protocol" |
| 16:29.50 | da_bon_bon | whats the problem ? :| |
| 16:30.12 | da_bon_bon | kde 3.4 |
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| 16:33.51 | shastry | da_bon_bon, its not there aymoe |
| 16:33.54 | shastry | use media:/ |
| 16:33.55 | Skiver | when i right click on my desktop icons property, i can't change the file. The keyboard won't respond. |
| 16:34.05 | da_bon_bon | shastry: here too! :) ;) |
| 16:34.17 | shastry | haha |
| 16:34.17 | da_bon_bon | shastry: then why does it appear in my right-hand side bar ?! |
| 16:34.29 | shastry | cos u did a bad migration from 3.3. to 3.4 |
| 16:34.44 | da_bon_bon | and how do i remedy it ? |
| 16:34.54 | shastry | remove it |
| 16:35.12 | da_bon_bon | shastry: why ? i will just chnage its url to media:/ |
| 16:35.16 | da_bon_bon | and it worked. |
| 16:35.19 | da_bon_bon | thanks a lot man |
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| 16:36.40 | scrooge | amaroK now playing: Usher - Slow Jam (feat. Monica) (1:55/4:43 40%) [229 kbps] Vol: 70% |
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| 16:36.45 | ichbinviele | hi =) |
| 16:36.45 | scrooge | l337ness |
| 16:36.50 | scrooge | dcop pwnz |
| 16:36.57 | scrooge | hi ichbinviele XD |
| 16:38.41 | ichbinviele | woooow ... http://dot.kde.org/1112318366/ just shocked me ... I didn't see it was posted on the 1st =) |
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| 16:39.44 | da_bon_bon | how do i get kdesu to not prompt me for passwords every time i want to do something ? like change time ?! its reall irritating. "Keep password" doesnt work. i have set myself NOSPASSWD in sudoers |
| 16:40.12 | ichbinviele | da_bon_bon: configure and use sudo instead |
| 16:40.42 | da_bon_bon | ichbinviele: how ? i already use sudo with no password. i want kdesu to know the fact |
| 16:41.13 | ichbinviele | da_bon_bon: uhm ... stupid idea but you might try to 'sudo kdesu' |
| 16:41.32 | scrooge | lol |
| 16:41.41 | da_bon_bon | ichbinviele: that will try to get root prevs as root |
| 16:41.45 | da_bon_bon | :P |
| 16:42.00 | scrooge | need a ksudo |
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| 16:42.01 | scrooge | :P |
| 16:42.05 | ichbinviele | da_bon_bon: thats what you want, no ? |
| 16:42.09 | scrooge | kdesudo^^ |
| 16:42.30 | da_bon_bon | ichbinviele: but if i just click on, say, change time, i will still need to enter root password. |
| 16:42.44 | da_bon_bon | on ubuntu, it uses my sudoers prevs |
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| 16:44.33 | ichbinviele | da_bon_bon: sorry ... I can't help you ... I didn't yet get such a stupid idea as setting up a system that doesn't require the root passwd for powerful commands |
| 16:44.53 | da_bon_bon | ichbinviele: oh ok, thanks anyway :) |
| 16:45.26 | scrooge | LOL |
| 16:46.12 | ichbinviele | da_bon_bon: sorry ... I didn't mean to insult you ... english's not my native language and my wording was chosen badly ^^ |
| 16:46.48 | da_bon_bon | ichbinviele: no, i did not feel insulted at all. atleast u gave an idea. not like other people who are always offright rude :P |
| 16:47.10 | ichbinviele | =) |
| 16:48.03 | da_bon_bon | ichbinviele: well, an inside source tells me that it will be there in kde 3.5 so i will wait :D ;) |
| 16:48.13 | scrooge | ??????/ |
| 16:48.20 | scrooge | 3.5 is next? |
| 16:48.23 | scrooge | no 3.4.1? |
| 16:48.25 | scrooge | nice |
| 16:48.45 | ichbinviele | da_bon_bon: passwordless kdesu would enable every user on your system to become root and make it easily exploitable ... |
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| 16:48.54 | Flendor | Re. |
| 16:49.00 | scrooge | o.0 |
| 16:49.10 | da_bon_bon | ichbinviele: passwordless if and only if u have NOPASSWD previliges in /etc/sudoers |
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| 17:04.46 | rakey | How can I get dcopserver to work?... when i do startx, i get an error after a while that says that dcopserver isn't working right.... |
| 17:04.58 | rakey | this a new install of 3.3.2 on my gentoo box |
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| 17:08.44 | Mowa | http://www.resellerads.com |
| 17:10.40 | rakey | comon, someone please help me with my problem. |
| 17:11.15 | shastry | rakey, did u try moving ur .kde to somewhere else ? |
| 17:12.28 | rakey | why would I do that? |
| 17:12.39 | rakey | i mean |
| 17:12.41 | shastry | well.. config |
| 17:12.41 | rakey | i did this: |
| 17:12.41 | rakey | echo "exec startkde" > ~/.xinitrc |
| 17:12.46 | rakey | but that's all... |
| 17:12.50 | shastry | 3.3 and 3.4 not compatible |
| 17:13.00 | shastry | at some stages i mean |
| 17:13.14 | rakey | Yeah, but I'm not using 3.4 .. |
| 17:13.51 | shastry | oh |
| 17:13.53 | shastry | ok |
| 17:14.05 | shastry | well.. the config can be a problem.. just back up and try |
| 17:14.40 | rakey | so, what would I do? |
| 17:15.01 | shastry | mv .kde bkup-kde |
| 17:15.11 | shastry | outside kde that is |
| 17:15.15 | shastry | and then start kde again |
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| 17:16.38 | rakey | er, no such file or directory |
| 17:16.48 | redeeman | hello, i have got a problem with kmail, when i add a new filter rule, and then set the filter actions to move into folder, and want to choose one, i cant choose one that is on my imap account, anyone know how that i can do that? |
| 17:16.50 | shastry | in ur home directory |
| 17:17.00 | rakey | oh, not in root? |
| 17:17.01 | shastry | rakey, ~/.kde |
| 17:17.05 | shastry | nope |
| 17:17.55 | rakey | mv: cannot stat /home/dmitri/.kde no such file or directory |
| 17:18.05 | shastry | ok |
| 17:18.17 | shastry | clear ur /tmp |
| 17:18.22 | shastry | thats another try |
| 17:18.42 | rakey | I'm pretty sure I have a problem with my dcopserver |
| 17:18.52 | rakey | that's what all my errors were related to |
| 17:19.19 | Octane | anyone know if kde oo.org integration works with 2.0 beta |
| 17:20.53 | shastry | rakey, /tmp has kde stuff |
| 17:21.05 | rakey | ok |
| 17:21.10 | rakey | so how do I clear that? |
| 17:21.21 | rakey | (I'm not even sure where /tmp is...) |
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| 17:26.00 | shastry | rakey, rm /tmp/* -r |
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| 17:26.20 | shastry | rakey, u dunno what /tmp is and u are doing a gentoo install ? |
| 17:26.31 | shastry | crazy human being |
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| 17:27.26 | rakey | haha |
| 17:27.38 | rakey | I accualy survived the install.. |
| 17:27.59 | rakey | but I have very little linux-command/architecture knowledge |
| 17:28.07 | shastry | rakey, u know.. u better readstuff atleast to get some knowledge |
| 17:28.31 | rakey | I just want a gui right now (kde), and then I'll sit down and really start looking over everything |
| 17:28.52 | rakey | I don't really enjoy working in text mode, even with nifty tools like links browser |
| 17:29.02 | shastry | and then reboot |
| 17:29.06 | shastry | after clearing tmp |
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| 17:32.53 | rakey | shastry, ok |
| 17:32.56 | rakey | oh |
| 17:32.57 | rakey | x. |
| 17:32.59 | rakey | x |
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| 17:40.26 | Octane | is kget no longer updated? |
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| 17:49.32 | cCa| | d |
| 17:49.49 | cCa| | hello there, can i get help about kde 3.3.2 here? |
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| 17:55.38 | ysm | kde 3.3.2, he needs to travel to the past... |
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| 17:56.34 | the-erm | Are there any patches that make it so knewsticker will save the rss feeds? |
| 17:57.32 | the-erm | If not where exactly can you download just the source to knewsticker, google ... well lots of results of snippets but no link to actual code |
| 17:59.23 | _yannux | tyoooooppp come back :) |
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| 18:00.04 | spiral | the-erm: have you ever thought of using akregator ? |
| 18:00.17 | spiral | the-erm: I think you can save the rss feeds with it |
| 18:00.50 | the-erm | I guess I could. |
| 18:01.08 | the-erm | I kinda like the results being displayed in the ticker tho. |
| 18:01.26 | the-erm | I'll look into it at least. |
| 18:06.12 | the-erm | spiral: nope no dice. |
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| 18:06.26 | the-erm | Doesn't seem to save. |
| 18:07.00 | spiral | the-erm: maybe you should try installing it |
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| 18:07.51 | the-erm | I installed it. |
| 18:08.51 | the-erm | Looked around, and it doesn't have a 'save' function anywhere (even after I download the rss feeds) |
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| 18:09.43 | Octane | omg kmail crashes on paste! |
| 18:09.49 | sergio | hello. How do I prevent konqueror from opening a tar.gz file with ark? |
| 18:09.56 | sergio | i ust want to save the file |
| 18:09.59 | sergio | just |
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| 18:10.57 | Octane | sorry dude i use firefox |
| 18:11.03 | sergio | k |
| 18:11.17 | sergio | maybe so should I :P |
| 18:12.11 | askie | Rightclick, save as? |
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| 18:13.48 | sergio | it is a bit annoying, cause sometimes it is a cgi that returns the file, so the name can be unadequate |
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| 18:18.28 | MegaByte | Does anyone here speak spanish? |
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| 18:26.37 | the-erm | sergio, try right click save as ... (I'm guessing here) |
| 18:27.06 | the-erm | There are some sites that allow me to save it, and others have the mime set up so ark automatically runs it. |
| 18:27.22 | the-erm | It's all in how the website has it's mime info set up. |
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| 18:30.50 | Zalamander | It seems that the devices:/ protocol has changed to media:/, but this change does not show up in my Konqueror's Navigation Panel. I changed devices:/ to media:/ in the URL of the "devices" properties, and that works fine. I'd also like to change the name of the section from "devices" to "Media", but "Rename" has no effect. Is there a place I can do this? |
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| 18:36.02 | Octane | where do you dit gtk styles and fonts in control center |
| 18:36.53 | Zalamander | Octane the only way I know of is to install gtk-qt-engine |
| 18:36.58 | Octane | yah i just did |
| 18:37.01 | Octane | cant fidn it though |
| 18:37.28 | Zalamander | OK, it should be under Appearance and Themes -> GTK STyles and Fonts |
| 18:37.48 | Octane | ya thats what i did :) |
| 18:37.50 | Octane | not there though |
| 18:37.52 | Octane | hmpf |
| 18:38.53 | Zalamander | hm, maybe gtk-qt-engine didn't install properly |
| 18:38.59 | Octane | no errors on make install |
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| 18:54.09 | Roey | GAH |
| 18:54.16 | Roey | is konqueror 3.4.0 fucking stupid or something??? |
| 18:54.24 | ysm | something |
| 18:54.32 | Roey | why does it mess up these sidebar menus |
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| 18:55.14 | Roey | I click on something in the middle of the sidebar-menu and it puts the submenu out of reach, at the top of the sidebar-menu. |
| 18:55.20 | Roey | there is no way to reach it. |
| 18:56.37 | sredna | Slayerbob - english support? |
| 18:56.47 | sredna | Commandline or command line? |
| 18:56.57 | dh | or command-line ;) |
| 18:57.06 | slougi | i'd say command-line too |
| 18:57.09 | slougi | or prompt |
| 18:57.11 | sredna | Oh, you are in here as well |
| 18:57.30 | slougi | depends on the context |
| 18:57.37 | sredna | :O |
| 18:57.50 | dh | is it the "katepart" or the "Kate Part" or "Kate Editor Component" or ... ? :) |
| 18:58.11 | sredna | 'Kate Part' is nonsence |
| 18:58.24 | slougi | Kate kpart maybe? |
| 18:58.29 | slougi | ;) |
| 18:58.47 | dh | Kate kpart sounds good imo |
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| 18:59.22 | nutshell42 | is there a good download manager for kde? Don't say kget, I want to be able to choose the target directory and kget doesn't allow me to do that |
| 18:59.32 | slougi | dh: only thing is, not everybody would know what that means |
| 18:59.47 | sredna | Well, given the expanded acronym, yes -- 3Kde 3advanced 3Text 3Editor KPart |
| 18:59.47 | dh | grr :) |
| 19:00.08 | dh | sredna: Kate Editor Component is to long! :) |
| 19:00.26 | Octane | can someone please give me a hand, i just fucked up my kde fonts |
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| 19:00.34 | Octane | http://dan.theidiots.org/etc/kde1.png |
| 19:00.37 | Octane | i was messing with themes |
| 19:00.38 | Biennium | nutshell42: I personally copy the URL, open a terminal, and use wget. |
| 19:00.45 | sredna | dh: Maybe we should put explanations on a help page :o |
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| 19:01.56 | slougi | dh: imo, as a user, while a glossary works, it is much much nicer if the text itself is written in a way that it is readable without constantly referring to the glossary |
| 19:02.04 | slougi | erm, wrong person |
| 19:02.05 | slougi | sredna: |
| 19:02.08 | sredna | nutshell42: KDE it self -- kio will ask you what to do |
| 19:02.33 | sredna | slougi: I got it, and that was a joke |
| 19:02.48 | slougi | sredna: sorry, apparently i'm humor impaired :) |
| 19:03.12 | nutshell42 | Biennium: that's what I do for unstable servers too, but I'd have thought that in 2005 KDE would offer some sort of working replacement =) |
| 19:03.19 | Zalamander | It seems that the devices:/ protocol has changed to media:/, but this change does not show up in my Konqueror's Navigation Panel. I changed devices:/ to media:/ in the URL of the "devices" properties, and that works fine. I'd also like to change the name of the section from "devices" to "Media", but "Rename" has no effect. Is there a place I can do this? |
| 19:03.41 | dh | slougi: yes! I agree :) I don't like to explain the obvious ;) |
| 19:03.49 | sredna | In any case, 'katepart' works for geeks, while 'Kate Editor Component' will be understandable for most people I assume |
| 19:04.11 | nutshell42 | sredna: that's fine for good servers. But if you try to download something from a soon-to-be-slashdotted or otherwise unstable server kio is not enough |
| 19:04.13 | dh | sredna: a normal user won't even know what an "editor component" is... |
| 19:04.19 | sredna | dh: It's a nonsense word. 'Part' means part of something, but not all |
| 19:04.25 | Octane | can someone please look at that screencap and tell me what i might have possibly done |
| 19:04.29 | Octane | http://dan.theidiots.org/etc/kde1.png |
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| 19:05.27 | dh | sredna: not necessarily. "it is your part" or is that wrong :-? |
| 19:05.27 | slougi | maybe KDE in general needs a sort of tutorial intro like windows has when you first log in, that explains a few basic concepts? candidates in kde would be kparts, kioslaves, the kicker etc |
| 19:05.27 | Quinn_Storm | Octane: what's wrong in the screencap? |
| 19:05.33 | slougi | i'd even maybe be willing to implement it |
| 19:05.36 | sredna | dh: In that case, you assume that we diveded 'it' and 'my part' is my part :o |
| 19:05.40 | Octane | Quinn_Storm, look at the font |
| 19:05.46 | Octane | i fucked it up somehow |
| 19:05.49 | dh | sredna: sorry? ;) |
| 19:05.51 | Quinn_Storm | well antialiasing is turned off, turn it on |
| 19:05.52 | sredna | Octane: Yikde, please turn on AA |
| 19:06.03 | sredna | (use antialiasing) |
| 19:06.11 | Octane | yes, i tried with AA |
| 19:06.12 | dh | sredna: if I leo: around, a "some part" exists ;) |
| 19:06.31 | sredna | Please don't mention leo, you make me sick |
| 19:06.57 | Octane | AA on/off doesnt make a difference |
| 19:07.04 | Quinn_Storm | Octane: turn AA on, and restart kde |
| 19:07.06 | Octane | k |
| 19:07.10 | Octane | thanks |
| 19:07.10 | Octane | brb |
| 19:07.31 | dh | sredna: ;) as you like, I'd say we stay then with our mixed stuff ;) |
| 19:07.38 | dh | then everybody has what he wants ;) |
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| 19:08.15 | sredna | OK'ing the fonts config module with a AA change usually produces a warning that it won't apply untill you restart |
| 19:08.35 | sredna | dh: Lol, let's do so for now ;) |
| 19:08.46 | dh | :D |
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| 19:09.30 | Octane | still have this ugliness... http://dan.theidiots.org/etc/kde2.png |
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| 19:10.05 | Quinn_Storm | Octane: turn off the exclude range |
| 19:10.17 | slougi | Octane: make sure you actually have truetype fonts installed |
| 19:10.31 | slougi | try running fc-cache -fv in a root shell and see what it says |
| 19:10.32 | Octane | Quinn_Storm, i tried that |
| 19:10.36 | sredna | Octane: 'Sans' is not antialiasable |
| 19:10.47 | slougi | sredna: depends what sans is set to |
| 19:10.49 | sredna | Octane: Try a nicew TTF font, like bitstream vera |
| 19:10.49 | Octane | i had sans working perfectly before i f'd it up |
| 19:10.55 | Octane | okay |
| 19:10.55 | sredna | Well, yes |
| 19:11.02 | sredna | Hm |
| 19:11.34 | sredna | Are you running xfs? If so, is that running and well? |
| 19:11.46 | Biennium | nutshell42: On second thought, I'm using wget because kfile crashes Konqueror. |
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| 19:11.52 | GoldenGoblin | hello |
| 19:12.10 | sredna | And maybe your dpi has changed btw |
| 19:12.45 | Octane | sredna, ahhh good call |
| 19:12.56 | GoldenGoblin | I'm trying to rip some audio cds with kaudiocreator and I get the following: could not start process unable to create is-slave: klauncher said: unknown protocol 'audiocd' |
| 19:13.12 | Octane | brb, th anks for all your help |
| 19:13.19 | GoldenGoblin | is-slave = io-slave |
| 19:13.30 | sredna | GoldenGoblin: Is kdemultimedia installed? |
| 19:13.31 | slougi | GoldenGoblin: running gentoo? |
| 19:13.46 | sredna | He, good |
| 19:13.58 | sredna | ~art gentoo for their misbehavin' |
| 19:14.00 | GoldenGoblin | yeah running gentoo, but not sure if I installed kmultimedia... one sec.. |
| 19:14.05 | sredna | ~lart gentoo for their misbehavin' |
| 19:14.11 | Biennium | nutshell42: Er, make that kio_file, and it crashes everything else, too... |
| 19:14.28 | slougi | GoldenGoblin: using ufed? If yes stop using it |
| 19:14.30 | slougi | it sucks |
| 19:14.47 | GoldenGoblin | udev you mean? |
| 19:14.48 | sredna | Kio_file is implementing the file:/ protocol, Biennium |
| 19:15.09 | slougi | no ufed the user flag editor |
| 19:15.19 | slougi | udev is completely unrelated |
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| 19:15.47 | GoldenGoblin | oh sorry nevermind, I'm just using to calling it "use flags" |
| 19:15.52 | GoldenGoblin | used* |
| 19:15.58 | Octane | thank you all :) |
| 19:16.03 | sredna | :) |
| 19:16.04 | Octane | i am a happy kde camper once again |
| 19:16.10 | Biennium | sredna: Yes, if I do something like open Kate or point Konqueror at a file system, they crash within a few minutes with SIGSEGV. |
| 19:16.13 | slougi | GoldenGoblin: umm ni i mean the program named "ufed" |
| 19:16.16 | slougi | *no |
| 19:16.34 | sredna | Biennium: So, something is b0rk3d... |
| 19:17.16 | GoldenGoblin | I've got kdemultimedia 3.3.1 installed.. |
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| 19:17.31 | GoldenGoblin | but ufed isn't installed. |
| 19:17.43 | Biennium | sredna: I'm currently using KDE 3.3.2, and the file thing has been broken since KDE 3.2.2 or somewhere around then. |
| 19:17.46 | sredna | Is the rest of your KDE 3.3.1? |
| 19:17.53 | slougi | sredna: it's a POS. i don't know how familiar you are with gentoo, but it turns off all "USE flags" by default, and you have to run through a list of several hundred and enable them one-by-one if you use it. A POS. |
| 19:18.19 | slougi | GoldenGoblin: are you using the split ebuilds? |
| 19:18.20 | GoldenGoblin | yeah, most of it is 3.3, but I only installed kaudiocreator yesterday, seems to be 3.4 |
| 19:18.22 | sredna | slougi: I'm running gentoo, but compiling KDE by hand |
| 19:18.27 | slougi | sredna: ah i see |
| 19:18.32 | sredna | I never met ufed |
| 19:18.56 | slougi | sredna: well emerge it and try it for kicks. back up make.conf before though. |
| 19:18.58 | Phant0m | I have a question about how kde figures out what device type something is .. I mean it picked up my usb stick as a "usb stick" icon .. but it also put my usb floppy under the same icon .. it recognized my usb camera as a harddrive .. how do I "hint" it at what the device really is? |
| 19:19.06 | slougi | sredna: it's all the rage on the forums... |
| 19:19.19 | sredna | I'm yelling at all GUI protage frontends for not allowing me to set local/global use flags for each time I install a package |
| 19:19.21 | GoldenGoblin | slougi, no, I'm just using the standard process of "emerging" packages.. |
| 19:19.29 | GoldenGoblin | (e.g. I don't usually edit files ..etc) |
| 19:19.47 | sredna | A good frontend would show me options related to packages that would be installed |
| 19:19.54 | slougi | GoldenGoblin: did you emerge kde or kde-metas |
| 19:19.55 | slougi | erm |
| 19:19.58 | slougi | kde-meta |
| 19:20.14 | slougi | sredna: yeah there isn't a good front-end |
| 19:20.20 | GoldenGoblin | kde |
| 19:20.41 | GoldenGoblin | should I emerge kde-meta ? |
| 19:20.46 | Phant0m | hello? |
| 19:20.49 | nutshell42 | yay, apparently there is an option that determines whether kget asks you for d/l directories. It's called "expert mode" and in the settings it says "expert mode (do not prompt for cancel or delete)" while the manual explains "Turns off prompting." |
| 19:20.56 | Phant0m | someone's gotta know this =) |
| 19:21.25 | slougi | GoldenGoblin: no, check your use flags for kdemultimedia and kdebase. I don't remember exactly what you need to turn on. |
| 19:21.44 | sredna | Phant0m: It uses a list probably |
| 19:22.20 | Phant0m | sredna: any hints as to where this list may be or how to configure it? I'd love to have it properly icon my devices .. |
| 19:22.35 | sredna | Phant0m: There are types and IDs, so if you know the ID you can decide if it's a stick or a 'mass storage device', otherwise not |
| 19:22.36 | nutshell42 | I recommend that in 4.0 the "logout" button should be called "self-destruct" the "back" button "erase", "copy" should explain "opens new window" and the manual should tell me that kcontrol "offers tree" |
| 19:22.44 | sredna | Phant0m: Read usb docs |
| 19:23.16 | Biennium | Phant0m: Actually, I think it's more likely to pick up the device's declared USB device type, whether it's removable mass storage or fixed mass storage. |
| 19:23.20 | Zalamander | Is there any setting I can change to add a different logOUT splash? |
| 19:23.22 | sredna | nutshell42: Are u nutz? |
| 19:23.27 | GoldenGoblin | slougi, ok thanks, I'll ask in #gentoo about the appropriate use flags for those... thanks. |
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| 19:23.49 | slougi | GoldenGoblin: sorry i couldn't help you out further |
| 19:24.08 | sredna | Zalamander: Replace the image |
| 19:24.40 | Zalamander | sredna yeah, I guess that's what I'll do. I don't suppose you happen to the filename of said image? |
| 19:24.47 | Zalamander | yep, that's the one |
| 19:25.06 | Zalamander | it's cute, but it just doesn't match the decor of my psyche |
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| 19:25.37 | nutshell42 | sredna: no, expert mode is actually the option I've searched, it really has this completely stupid name |
| 19:25.56 | sredna | The mind bindings... sometime they will come. I saw on ./ that viruses are now migrating from PSs to humans ... |
| 19:26.13 | sredna | nutshell42: Lol, file a bug report for that one :) |
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| 19:26.56 | nutshell42 | sredna: not necessary, I have the solution from one =) |
| 19:27.06 | Phant0m | Biennium: well its picking it up from unmounted devices somehow too .. unmounted and not inserted .. so it'd seem it picks it up from the device path and/or mount path .. I'd love to see the docs on the rules it uses |
| 19:28.08 | kilrae | anybody know about mounting hard drives upside down? |
| 19:28.12 | sredna | The hotplug manuals are written in chinese and translated by google, read them 100000 times before you start getting a grip :( |
| 19:28.24 | slougi | Phant0m: afaik HAL is used for that |
| 19:28.36 | slougi | Phant0m: at least if enabled at compile time |
| 19:28.43 | Phant0m | I see .. |
| 19:29.18 | slougi | Phant0m: otherwise i am not sure, iirc /etc/fstab is parsed |
| 19:29.30 | slougi | or something similar |
| 19:29.46 | Phant0m | slougi: which lib enables the hal support (so I can check if it was built with it on) |
| 19:30.01 | slougi | Phant0m: give me a minute |
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| 19:30.18 | Phant0m | slougi: I mean like kdelibs or what? |
| 19:30.45 | Zalamander | The only file that I find that looks like a likely candidate is /opt/kde/share/icons/mono/scalable/apps/logout.svgz <-- anyone know what I can use to view/edit this file? Gimp doesn't like it, nor does gunzip. |
| 19:30.49 | slougi | Phant0m: kdebase |
| 19:31.17 | slougi | Zalamander: try inkscape or sodipodi |
| 19:31.19 | Phant0m | slougi: ok .. kdebase has hal support .. |
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| 19:31.31 | Zalamander | hm, "mono" doesn't sound right though |
| 19:31.40 | Phant0m | slougi: is hal also what makes the devices:// ioslave work? |
| 19:31.47 | Zalamander | slougi thanks, I don't think that's the right image in any case :\ |
| 19:31.47 | slougi | Phant0m: then you'll want to look at hal, that's where the info is pulled from |
| 19:31.47 | Phant0m | slougi: coz .. it don't for me .. heh |
| 19:31.48 | kilrae | Zalamander: you looking for the dragon? |
| 19:31.51 | slougi | Phant0m: media:// |
| 19:32.09 | Zalamander | kilrae yep, the logout image |
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| 19:32.12 | Flendor | Re. |
| 19:32.16 | kilrae | i saw that the other day |
| 19:32.34 | Zalamander | kilrae oh man, even a general vicinity would help me :-) |
| 19:33.04 | Phant0m | what controls the devices:/ ioslave? because it keeps saying on me that its not enabled .. |
| 19:33.26 | Zalamander | Phant0m it changed to media:/. It will work again if you edit the URL in Properties |
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| 19:34.05 | Phant0m | Zalamander: ah I see .. cool .. that's fixed then =) |
| 19:34.14 | slougi | Phant0m: that is not there anymore in 3.4 afaik |
| 19:34.32 | Zalamander | Phant0m I'm trying to change the *name* of the section to "Media", but I've no luck so far. Oh well :-) |
| 19:34.44 | Octane | ahhh, whenever i paste anything in Kontact, it crashes |
| 19:34.54 | Octane | anyone else experience that |
| 19:34.58 | Phant0m | Zalamander: yea it became an ugly lowecase devices for me .. heh |
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| 19:35.21 | slougi | Zalamander: /usr/kde/3.4/share/apps/ksmserver/pics/shutdownkonq.png on my system |
| 19:36.00 | slougi | stupid filename |
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| 19:38.00 | Zalamander | slougi awesome, thanks! |
| 19:38.16 | slougi | Zalamander: thank the konqueror developers for their find function ;) |
| 19:38.55 | kilrae | find function? but why not use the commandline like a normal person? |
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| 19:39.08 | slougi | cause that way i get image previews |
| 19:39.14 | kilrae | well ladida |
| 19:39.23 | slougi | so i can recognize the image... |
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| 19:39.38 | kilrae | i said... lah di dah |
| 19:39.55 | slougi | eh? |
| 19:40.02 | kilrae | heh |
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| 19:40.49 | kilrae | you know, like in simpsons, and homer says "why does hermann keep going out into the garage?" and moe says "garage? well, lah di dah mr. frenchman" |
| 19:41.04 | kilrae | and homer says "what do you call it?" moe says "a carhold" |
| 19:41.05 | slougi | and in any case, "find" sucks so bad it is unbelievable, and "locate" is always out of date on volatile stuff |
| 19:41.13 | slougi | kilrae: right.. |
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| 19:48.14 | demarc | hi there, does somebody know an application which can display very large images at a acceptable speed? |
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| 19:48.32 | sredna | demarc: Gwenview |
| 19:48.58 | sredna | Is probably the best bid for a kde app |
| 19:49.19 | demarc | okay, that's the application which I use currently... it's slow while opening this 70 MB jpeg :) |
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| 19:49.33 | expose | Hi guys. |
| 19:49.37 | sredna | Eew, 70MB is a huge image |
| 19:50.01 | sredna | demarc: You need something that can show just parts of it I guess |
| 19:50.04 | demarc | I try it with the gimp ;) |
| 19:50.19 | expose | Is there a way to "group" windows? so i klick "minimize" once, and all 4 go down? they appear as seperate windows of the same application in the kicker |
| 19:50.36 | expose | demarc: convert sourceimage destimage |
| 19:50.44 | chuckr | Trying to track down the location of a booboo (I love that, sorry!)... I just got an error, I was in ControlCenter, popup error read "Could not find the program '/usr/X116/bin/mozilla'" and note here the missing R in the X11R6, that's the clue. I'm running FreeBSD, so your normal Linux paths don't work. Well, do you think you can locate the bad string? Or, help me do it, I mean? |
| 19:50.52 | sredna | demarc: It's possibe that imagemagick provides a tool that can make a cut. And some of the older viewers would only render the part in the actual window |
| 19:50.53 | expose | demarc: (if you want to make a big image smaller the fast way) |
| 19:50.57 | demarc | expose: don't know any, but what about using multiple images? |
| 19:51.30 | sredna | expose: The taskbar can do that, if you rightclick it |
| 19:52.39 | expose | sredna: well - how? (i use 3.4, btw) |
| 19:52.44 | sredna | chuckr: Try looking up the path in kemnuedit |
| 19:52.48 | chuckr | I'm rally very new to the internals of KDE, is it in some sort of desktop file? I found some of those |
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| 19:53.14 | sredna | expose: Enable grouping of windows in the taskbar, then it has 'minimize all' and 'restrore all' |
| 19:53.15 | chuckr | kemnuedit ... give me a minute to learn |
| 19:53.17 | kilrae | 70MB isn't that bad |
| 19:53.21 | sredna | For each group |
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| 19:54.07 | expose | sredna: i see, thanks |
| 19:54.26 | Octane | anyone here experience any application in Kontact crashing on paste |
| 19:54.30 | poh | is there a way that I can make the menu items smaller in 3.3? |
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| 19:55.25 | sredna | poh: Which menu items, and smaller in what way? |
| 19:55.39 | sredna | poh: But hint hint -- use a smaller font |
| 19:56.01 | Octane | poh, you can reduce font or you can change default icon size |
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| 19:56.09 | chuckr | sredna, I tried using FreeBSD's locate on kemnuedit and kdemnuedit, and I also tried googling both of them, are yo usure you spelled them right? |
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| 19:56.35 | sredna | chuckr: 'kmenuedit' |
| 19:57.00 | sredna | chuckr: I'm assuming that the bad path is in the mozilla .desktop file |
| 19:58.04 | sredna | Lol |
| 19:58.21 | poh | sredna: I want my K menu to fit in one column |
| 19:58.27 | chuckr | it's a novel idea, ME complaining about someone ELSE's spelling. I got it, thanks much |
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| 19:58.32 | poh | should I change the font size then? |
| 19:59.21 | sredna | poh: You could remove something, like set the number of most recent or most used apps to 0 |
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| 20:00.04 | sredna | chuckr: I'm a terrible typer :\ |
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| 20:01.09 | sredna | Is there a pcre based grep? |
| 20:01.17 | poh | thanks |
| 20:01.21 | mr11 | where is the file that configures keys in kde similar to ~/.fluxbox.keys? |
| 20:01.30 | sredna | I can't type grep regexps beoynd the most simple basics :( |
| 20:01.35 | mr11 | not a gui man |
| 20:01.50 | sredna | mr11: Why do you assume that kde is working like fluxbox? |
| 20:02.05 | Biennium | sredna: GNU grep, "grep -P"? |
| 20:02.10 | mr11 | window manager? |
| 20:02.13 | slougi | mr11: control center |
| 20:02.27 | mr11 | too confusing |
| 20:02.36 | sredna | mr11: The closest you get is KDEHOME/share/config/kdeglobals |
| 20:03.01 | mr11 | thanks |
| 20:03.21 | chimaera | somehow my menu is screwed. i don't have icons for the main categories and i'm missing the sub-categories ("more apps"...). any idea how to fix this? |
| 20:04.36 | sredna | mr11: 'kcmshell keys' maybe? |
| 20:05.25 | sredna | Biennium: -P is not supported, but it sounded so nice |
| 20:05.34 | Biennium | Oh, yeah. Is there a way to turn off the Safari-style Google searchbar? In my opinion, only Safari gets it right. |
| 20:06.14 | sredna | Biennium: !LOGICAL ERROR! No such thing |
| 20:06.15 | mr11 | thaks |
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| 20:06.42 | sredna | But if you mean the google searchbar, it is an extension, so disable it |
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| 20:10.41 | Flendor | Hey sredna. |
| 20:10.48 | sredna | Hi Flendor |
| 20:10.57 | Flendor | Thought of trying out xcomp on KDE 3.4, but they say it's not stable at all :/ |
| 20:10.59 | MegaByte | the pope is dead |
| 20:11.41 | sredna | Grep's manual claims that -p means 'Interpret PATTERN as a Perl regular expression.'. But I get errors: |
| 20:11.53 | sredna | Anders@pluto ~ $ ls |grep -p "^\d+\..*" |
| 20:11.53 | sredna | grep: Invalid option -- p |
| 20:12.03 | Flendor | MegaByte, yeah heard of that |
| 20:12.18 | Flendor | Sad. I'm no Catholic, but they should be quite sad now :/ |
| 20:12.55 | MegaByte | Flendor, though in the state he was he died long ago |
| 20:13.01 | sredna | Anders@pluto ~ $ ls |grep --perl-regexp "^\d+\..*" |
| 20:13.01 | sredna | grep: The -P option is not supported |
| 20:13.03 | sredna | Dooh |
| 20:13.17 | Flendor | Yes, I think it just wasn't announced |
| 20:13.19 | sredna | I'm sure this is gentoo's fault |
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| 20:15.24 | sredna | Stupid fools |
| 20:15.46 | Flendor | Heh :) |
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| 20:17.16 | chuckr | I'm not sure if I'm using the kmenuedit prog correctly, I visited all the possible links looking for anything like "X116" but found nothing. The original popup is still there, but there isn't enough info to point mere certainly. |
| 20:17.50 | Biennium | Hah! The AP reports that cardinals are coming to the Vatican City for the "secret" duty of voting for the new pope. What secret? |
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| 20:18.12 | Flendor | :D Hello illogic-al |
| 20:18.49 | illogic-al | heydliiddly cyberneighborooney |
| 20:19.10 | Flendor | :0 |
| 20:19.35 | chimaera | slept under that flenders covers again? ;) |
| 20:19.39 | illogic-al | s/heydliddly/heydidlyidly |
| 20:20.00 | slougi | hmm why has my backspace key stopped working in konsole? |
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| 20:20.16 | Flendor | flenders cover? |
| 20:20.34 | slougi | sorry all, i mean delete key |
| 20:20.38 | chimaera | covers.. errr. sheets. |
| 20:20.46 | Flendor | Oh. |
| 20:20.54 | Flendor | I thought it was related to my nick :) |
| 20:21.37 | Flendor | Oh come on, I beg of you, break my heart |
| 20:21.46 | chuckr | I am trying to find the location of the bad application pointer, that got me the error "Could not find the program '/usr/X116/bin/mozilla'" |
| 20:21.51 | Flendor | Wait a sec.. |
| 20:22.00 | Flendor | O^o |
| 20:22.09 | Flendor | >:/ |
| 20:23.11 | slayerbob | lol |
| 20:23.14 | slayerbob | hiya Flendor |
| 20:23.30 | illogic-al | lol @ Flendor |
| 20:24.12 | Flendor | Hey there slayer, how goes? How's canny? |
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| 20:24.39 | slayerbob | i am fine. i assume that canllaith is asleep |
| 20:25.06 | Flendor | Glad to hear that. I have to go to sleep as well. |
| 20:25.07 | Flendor | See you. |
| 20:25.11 | slayerbob | nite |
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| 20:28.17 | chuckr | Oh, well, I can let it happen once or twice more before I figure it out. |
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| 20:31.28 | chimaera | any ideas why i can't edit my menu anymore? changes i make just aren't applied. |
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| 20:42.05 | Jefferys | Hello, I'm using kde 3.3 on suse 9.2, not sure what happened but the buttons on my Navigation Panel stopped working. Anyone have any Ideas on how to fix this? |
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| 20:44.48 | slougi | Jefferys: navigation panel? |
| 20:48.09 | MegaByte | http://amsn.sourceforge.net/ => Protest against software patents... please read it |
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| 20:49.14 | Jefferys | ya, the buttons on the left side of the window, had home button and network and root and others |
| 20:50.38 | Jefferys | on the file manager window. |
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| 20:53.41 | DirkGently | Jefferys: in Konqueror? |
| 20:54.20 | Jefferys | yes, you can press F9 to hide and show the buttons. |
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| 20:55.06 | DirkGently | so they are not showing for you? |
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| 20:56.46 | Jefferys | They are showing ok, and they make the button push movement, but they don't take me to the location that they are suppose to. |
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| 20:57.10 | redeeman | hello, i have got a problem with kmail, when i add a new filter rule, and then set the filter actions to move into folder, and want to choose one, i cant choose one that is on my imap account, anyone know how that i can do that? |
| 20:57.19 | redeeman | sredna: perhaps you know |
| 20:57.55 | sredna | redeeman: Sorry, I have no experience with IMAP |
| 20:58.07 | redeeman | this is not nice :( |
| 20:58.16 | redeeman | i need this, and i seriously do wanna change to kmail |
| 20:58.50 | sredna | I think imap filtering is a very ofteh requested feature for kmail |
| 20:59.13 | redeeman | i dont want to filter the stuff that already exists on my imap server |
| 20:59.16 | eborg | hello can anyone give a ponter on kmail smtp troubleshooting - i get protocol died unexpected |
| 20:59.25 | redeeman | i want to filter the stuff i fetch via pop3, and then put it into my imap server |
| 20:59.48 | sredna | That has to be a candidate for a alias here :o |
| 21:01.16 | sredna | eborg: Look in ~/.xsession-errors if you have that |
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| 21:02.23 | eborg | ok sredna |
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| 21:03.59 | DirkGently | Jefferys: try renaming .kde/share/config/konquerorrc to see if it's a config problem |
| 21:04.13 | eborg | sednc kio_smtp: SASL_CB_[USER|AUTHNAME]: markborg@rogers.com |
| 21:04.13 | eborg | kio_smtp: SASL_CB_[USER|AUTHNAME]: markborg@rogers.com |
| 21:04.14 | eborg | kio_smtp: SASL_CB_PASS: [HIDDEN] |
| 21:04.14 | eborg | kioslave: ####### CRASH ###### protocol = smtp pid = 19589 signal = 11 |
| 21:04.44 | Jefferys | DirkGently: ok, thanks |
| 21:05.51 | eborg | watched with ethereal, the smtp server sends its hash then nothing from this sys.. |
| 21:06.23 | sredna | The only thing I can say is that it works here, eborg |
| 21:06.44 | sredna | But I really don't know about the internal of that |
| 21:06.57 | slayerbob | hiya sredna :P |
| 21:06.59 | thiago | eborg: do you have a backtrace? |
| 21:07.02 | sredna | Hi slayerbob |
| 21:07.19 | slayerbob | and thiago and anyone else who is here :P |
| 21:07.21 | sredna | Yay, thiago :) |
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| 21:07.47 | eborg | no i don't think so, kmail stays up...it was working for me also until update to kdepim cvs... |
| 21:07.59 | thiago | eborg: the crash happens in the kioslave |
| 21:08.36 | eborg | yes i see that, what would be my next thing to look at? |
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| 21:08.52 | thiago | we'd have to find out if the crash isn't caused by SASL |
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| 21:09.43 | eborg | thiago is the 'backtrace' the info after the crash in .xsessionerrors? |
| 21:10.07 | X-The | i already reported that kbabel catalog managaer isnt working, but the guy responsible for it, doesnt fix it, please someone fix kbabel catalog managaer |
| 21:10.28 | thiago | eborg: no |
| 21:10.45 | thiago | eborg: I don't think ioslaves get KDE Crash Handler dialogs |
| 21:10.52 | X-The | thiagogo can u take a look to kbabel catalog manager |
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| 21:11.11 | thiago | X-The: I don't think so |
| 21:11.15 | eborg | also i have libc.so.6, during make it did give a caution about conflicts... |
| 21:11.19 | DirkGently | X-The: who doesn't fix it? |
| 21:11.20 | thiago | X-The: is it an easy fix? |
| 21:11.21 | X-The | thiago: isnt working |
| 21:11.32 | X-The | thiago: i dont know |
| 21:11.45 | thiago | X-The: do you have the patch to make it work? |
| 21:12.15 | X-The | thiago: i dont know how to fix it |
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| 21:12.27 | thiago | X-The: nor do I |
| 21:12.28 | X-The | see http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=102558 |
| 21:12.57 | DirkGently | X-The: Stanislav usually fixes KBabel |
| 21:13.12 | Pupeno | When I try to edit a contact in Kontact, I get "The resource '/home/pupeno/.kde3.3/share/apps/kabc/std.vcf' is locked by application ''.", what's wrong ? what can I do about it ? |
| 21:13.14 | X-The | i just update kdesdk and isnt fixed |
| 21:14.08 | thiago | X-The: that means he doesn't know how to fix, hasn't got the time to, or didn't understand what the problem is. |
| 21:14.33 | X-The | u read it didnt u, didnt u understand what was the problem? |
| 21:14.41 | thiago | X-The: no |
| 21:14.46 | thiago | I have no idea what the problem is. |
| 21:14.47 | X-The | ur funny |
| 21:14.51 | thiago | how can I be? |
| 21:15.00 | thiago | I must have used kbabel twice in my life |
| 21:15.05 | thiago | I have no idea what a PO database is. |
| 21:15.07 | X-The | When you run the app Catalog Manager appears a message saying that u have not selected a valid database for the PO files. |
| 21:15.07 | X-The | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:15.12 | DirkGently | I don't understand the problem and I use catalog manager |
| 21:15.15 | thiago | I have no idea what a Catalog manager is either. |
| 21:15.17 | kilrae | yay, i got a dvd writer |
| 21:15.34 | thiago | X-The: in other words, I am as qualified as you are to fix the problem. |
| 21:15.42 | thiago | X-The: in fact, you are MORE qualified than I am. |
| 21:15.49 | DirkGently | X-The: cvs HEAD or KDE 3.4? |
| 21:15.58 | thiago | we both don't know the code. But you use it and you know what a Catalog Manager is. |
| 21:15.59 | X-The | kde3.4 branch |
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| 21:16.12 | DirkGently | X-The: works for me |
| 21:16.20 | kilrae | damn, i forgot to pick up regular CDs too |
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| 21:16.47 | X-The | DirkGently: and ur suinf kde.34 branch? i dont think so |
| 21:16.52 | DirkGently | X-The: have you upgraded from 3.3 to 3.4? |
| 21:16.54 | X-The | in previous versions it works... |
| 21:17.06 | DirkGently | or clean install? |
| 21:17.36 | X-The | u dont deserve a commnet |
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| 21:17.53 | slougi | roflmao, what a bad troll |
| 21:18.25 | geek_ | slougi: say, I think this is my lucky day .. |
| 21:18.25 | DirkGently | X-The: don't come in here expecting help if you have that attitude |
| 21:18.58 | slougi | they usually die exceedingly quickly ;) |
| 21:19.25 | geek_ | slougi: so, it's five minutes show only? |
| 21:21.00 | slougi | geek_: well they usually get kicked, but this one seems to have shut up by itself |
| 21:21.13 | slougi | geek_: although i've never seen one in this chan before either ;) |
| 21:21.28 | geek_ | lol@slougi |
| 21:21.56 | eborg | hi please, does anyone have an URL for a description of how a kioslave works? |
| 21:22.13 | geek_ | say slougi, i think i'll take my shot .. hope i won't be the next troll |
| 21:22.24 | geek_ | i got a question to ask |
| 21:22.25 | slougi | geek_: ? |
| 21:22.31 | slougi | heh just ask |
| 21:22.49 | geek_ | wel, eh, I'm doing konstruct for kde 3.4 rite now |
| 21:23.23 | geek_ | i'm stuck on the kde-edu module .. somehow it entered infinite-loop (?) |
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| 21:23.59 | slougi | i've never used konstruct so no idea |
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| 21:24.23 | geek_ | oh, guess i'm out of luck :p |
| 21:24.48 | eborg | anyone know what permissions for /var/spool/mail/(user).lock should be? |
| 21:24.54 | slougi | well no, see, i'm not the only person here ;) |
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| 21:25.52 | yannux_ | bn tlm |
| 21:26.27 | geek_ | slougi: I think i'll shut my mouth for a while and try my own luck with konstruct :D |
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| 21:29.36 | phunky | if I try it in the schema tab of "configure Konsole" it doesn't work |
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| 21:32.11 | redeeman | http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=103099 |
| 21:34.33 | Jefferys | DirkGently: renaming konquerorrc didn't work. Do you have any other ideas on fixing the Navigation Panel? |
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| 21:36.07 | DirkGently | Jefferys: what about .kde/share/config/konqsidebartng.rc ? |
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| 21:37.11 | Jefferys | DirkGently: ok, I'll try renaming that one too, thanks |
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| 21:40.14 | Jefferys | DirkGently: Woot, that worked! thanks a bunch for your help. :) |
| 21:40.35 | s3m10s | is there any way to get xmms to play nice with kde? |
| 21:40.47 | s3m10s | or kde to play nice with xmms? |
| 21:40.53 | geek_ | s3m10s: alsa dmix? |
| 21:41.25 | s3m10s | I'm sorry, I don't get the full gist of that |
| 21:41.39 | s3m10s | the alsa output driver? |
| 21:43.19 | geek_ | s3m10s: http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin |
| 21:43.48 | s3m10s | tnks |
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| 21:45.02 | sfs | hi |
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| 21:46.05 | chimaera | s3m10s: if you use arts, there's an arts-plugin for xmms.. |
| 21:46.54 | s3m10s | the arts plugin looks alot easier |
| 21:47.00 | MrGrim | dmix is only needed for oss emulation isn't it? |
| 21:47.19 | MrGrim | if both arts and xmms use alsa doesn't alsa do software mixing w/o the need of a plugin natively? |
| 21:47.28 | MrGrim | that's the gist I got from alsa.opensrc.org |
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| 21:49.37 | neofreko | i guess MrGrim is rite, it's only for oss emulation (hmm, i should read it again) |
| 21:49.41 | sarah03 | MrGrim: OSS emulation is and always has been provided by ALSA. |
| 21:49.45 | s3m10s | well, kde sound system likes to be god in the soudn world, so it doesn't let other things play. both oss and alsa plugins for xmms have problems with kde |
| 21:50.42 | s3m10s | I'll just installed the arts plugin and I'll try it for a while. |
| 21:50.55 | sarah03 | OSS and ALSA don't do software mixing. If the hardware provides the capability, it's exported to the world, usually by allowing multiple opens of the output PCM device. |
| 21:53.31 | MrGrim | sarah03: you misread what I said |
| 21:54.08 | ch|maera | MrGrim: dmix is _not_ for oss only period. |
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| 21:55.53 | ch|maera | MrGrim: dmix is _not_ for oss only period. |
| 21:55.57 | ch|maera | sry. |
| 21:56.09 | sarah03 | MrGrim: (1) "dmix is only needed for oss emulation": No. OSS emulation is native to ALSA. (2) "if [stuff] use alsa doesn't alsa do software mixing w/o the need of a plugin natively?" No. ALSA doesn't provide software mixing. If the hardware provides mixing capabilities of multiple streams then it's exported. |
| 21:56.11 | MrGrim | ahh yes I reread that article |
| 21:56.16 | s3m10s | anyway, the arts plugin solved my problem. thank you guys |
| 21:56.54 | MrGrim | sarah03: you don't need to tell me oss emulation is native to alsa |
| 21:56.57 | MrGrim | that's kinda obvious |
| 21:57.37 | MrGrim | but ya my memory was just playing tricks on me from what I read |
| 21:57.55 | MrGrim | it's weird tho... sometimes alsa will share on my system, and sometimes it won't |
| 21:58.11 | MrGrim | I can, for example, use arts w/ alsa and xmms w/ alsa |
| 21:58.20 | MrGrim | but if I have arts using alsa, then try to start jackd with alsa |
| 21:58.25 | MrGrim | jackd complains the device is in use |
| 21:58.33 | s3m10s | I had set arts to give up control after 1 second, but still had problems . . . |
| 21:58.35 | MrGrim | but if I start jackd first then start arts.. it works |
| 21:58.48 | hitriko | what linux distro would you guys recommend for a noob that doen't have much time........? |
| 21:58.52 | sarah03 | *shrug* I read 2 statements that I knew were patently false, so I responded. |
| 21:58.53 | MrGrim | s3m10s: http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=AlsaSharing |
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| 21:59.20 | MrGrim | sarah03: well 1 statement was false... I never claimed oss emulation was not an alsa thing |
| 21:59.32 | sarah03 | I haven't seen a message about the sound card being in use for a few years now; on the other hand, the emu10k1 does hardware mixing, anyway. |
| 21:59.34 | MrGrim | tho I suppose it's possible you may have read such an implication somehow |
| 22:00.13 | sarah03 | *nods* The implication that I picked up was that in order to have OSS emulation with ALSA you need dmix. |
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| 22:00.18 | MrGrim | sarah03: ya I have an emu10k1... tho I think some apps might use alsa in a weird way... hence why I will get busy messages depending on the apps I use.. or even the order in which I start them |
| 22:00.48 | sarah03 | Sounds like some of the apps you're using are hard-coded to try getting PCM channel 0 instead of taking the first avaliable one. |
| 22:01.14 | s3m10s | MrGrim: thatàs 0pretty informative, thanks |
| 22:01.18 | MrGrim | now that I think about it I think that is what jackd was doing |
| 22:01.31 | sarah03 | Even though it really shouldn't matter, because all of the PCM channels go to the same place anyway. |
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| 22:01.47 | MrGrim | s3m10s: ya, alsa.opensrc.org in general is pretty informative |
| 22:01.58 | s3m10s | my problem was in part due to an intel laptop |
| 22:02.32 | s3m10s | thanks and g'nite. |
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| 22:02.54 | MrGrim | it's part of why I switched from the free oss emu10k1 driver to alsa... in order to get the proper stereo sound output with 5.1 analog from my emu10k1 card using the free oss driver I had to do some weird stuff.. I even wrote a custom dsp program |
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| 22:03.02 | Kano | hi |
| 22:03.16 | MrGrim | but alsa is so configurable I can do it properly.. and even throw in a ladspa plugin for bass output for kicks |
| 22:03.28 | sarah03 | Heh. I haven't even bothered trying to get 5.1 output out of this card. |
| 22:03.43 | Kano | how to select the max. description length in lines for the icons on the desktop, i only find it for konqueror |
| 22:03.49 | sarah03 | Mostly because I don't have enough speakers for it to be worth setting up anyway. |
| 22:04.54 | MrGrim | sarah03: my problem was the free oss emu10k1 driver wouldn't send stereo output to the subwoofer as well. I could do it but then it'd screw up actual 5.1 output |
| 22:05.05 | MrGrim | and in general it was a hack anyways |
| 22:05.11 | sarah03 | Bleh. |
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| 22:06.03 | MrGrim | one of the nice things about alsa is stereo, 4.0, and 5.1 output use different device names so I can have a custom setup for each type of output |
| 22:06.13 | Kano | any ideas |
| 22:06.19 | MrGrim | and I use a ladspa plugin to do a low pass filter so I only feed sounds below 100Hz to the sub |
| 22:06.51 | MrGrim | Kano: I'll look |
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| 22:07.17 | MrGrim | desktop icon handling imho is still one of the less mature and least likely to work aspects of kde these days :P |
| 22:07.32 | armin | hi |
| 22:07.39 | MrGrim | every new release has a couple of fun new bugs when it comes to that |
| 22:07.50 | neofreko | *rant* need more snappy effect? :p |
| 22:08.03 | MrGrim | Kano: ok right click on desktop and choose configure desktop |
| 22:08.13 | MrGrim | in the background settings there is an advanced button |
| 22:08.15 | MrGrim | the option is there |
| 22:08.18 | sarah03 | You've got your sub hooked up to it's own output on the card, though [or hooked up via a digital output, same difference]... I'm using a 4-year-old analog speaker system with the old 3.5mm stereo plug. |
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| 22:09.34 | MrGrim | sarah03: ya... well when using digital output the card can only output stereo or passthrough (I still don't understand why more cards don't have hardware dolby digital encoding :/), and my reciever is able to properly direct stereo output to the sub using crossover |
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| 22:09.42 | muntyan | hi guys. is there some command line tool to open url in default browser? |
| 22:09.45 | r00tsh3ll | is jessica here? |
| 22:09.47 | MrGrim | and I get the added benefit of my recievers DAC's are 10x the quality of the sblive platinum 5.1's |
| 22:10.01 | parker | sdl;kl;ksdf;lskdf;ls |
| 22:10.02 | sarah03 | I don't doubt it. |
| 22:10.05 | Kano | thanks MrGrim |
| 22:10.10 | muntyan | i have a non-kde application, and i want to open url from it in kde-friendly way |
| 22:10.10 | Kano | found it now |
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| 22:10.25 | MrGrim | muntyan: there is a way, but I'm afraid I don't know it |
| 22:10.29 | sarah03 | I've heard far worse speaker systems than the cheap setup that I've got here. [Most of them because they're cheaper, of course.] |
| 22:10.39 | MrGrim | I think you use kfmclient |
| 22:10.45 | MrGrim | I just dunno the proper command line parameters |
| 22:10.57 | r00tsh3ll | kfmclient openProfile webbrowsing? |
| 22:11.15 | MrGrim | r00tsh3ll: where is the custom url in that? :P |
| 22:11.37 | muntyan | MrGrim, r00tsh3ll: seems exactly what i need, thanks |
| 22:11.46 | r00tsh3ll | np |
| 22:11.53 | MrGrim | sarah03: I just have my soundcard plugged into a sony reciever... after much searching I never found a pc specific speaker system I liked :) |
| 22:12.10 | rakey | ok, I have a very crappy old monitor.. and I'm working on a 800X600 resolution right now....... but the text in all my apps (like in Firefox, the address bar, or in Xchat, the toolbar) is way too damn small. |
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| 22:12.26 | rakey | Is there any way I can change how big text is in all the programs? |
| 22:12.32 | rakey | without changing the resolution |
| 22:12.33 | rakey | in KDE |
| 22:13.04 | MrGrim | rakey: setting the dpi in your x config file might do the trick |
| 22:13.16 | MrGrim | or specifying your monitor's size and have it set dpi automatically |
| 22:13.26 | muntyan | rakey: and/or /etc/fonts/local.conf |
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| 22:14.18 | rakey | ok |
| 22:14.19 | rakey | thanks |
| 22:14.23 | MrGrim | I've become dependant on having proper dpi settings on every system I configure... the idea of having a specific pt. size of a font be exactly the same physical size on every system is very cool |
| 22:14.24 | rakey | i'll check it out right now |
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| 22:15.06 | MrGrim | so 12 pt. on the 15" monitor set to 1024x768, my 19" monitor at 1600x1200, or the 19" monitor in the tv room at 1280x1024 is exactly the same physical size (meaning if you measured it with a ruler it'd be the same) |
| 22:15.58 | rakey | okay |
| 22:16.02 | MrGrim | or telling the gimp to open a new image at 5"x5" and it actually being 5"x5" :P |
| 22:17.01 | MrGrim | hehe |
| 22:18.28 | sarah03 | Well... the DPI on my 19" monitor running 1280x960 is 90dpi; on my 17" monitor [running 800x600, because I'm stuck with that until I buy another video card that can support a reasonable resolution at 24bpp] it's 61dpi horizontal and 63dpi vertical. |
| 22:19.03 | sarah03 | And since the 19" is the primary screen, 90dpi gets applied to the 17" monitor that's actually running at 2/3 that. |
| 22:19.04 | MrGrim | I'm running at 110 dpi atm |
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| 22:19.14 | MrGrim | sarah03: that sucks |
| 22:19.17 | *** part/#kde muntyan (~muntyan@munt.msh.tamu.edu) |
| 22:19.58 | MrGrim | tho if I understand the reasons for the x.org fork it should be easier to get a patch in :P |
| 22:20.18 | sarah03 | It's an issue inherent to Xinerama and the apps that use it more than anything. |
| 22:20.19 | MrGrim | tho I'm guessing that wouldn't be a trivial thing to fix |
| 22:20.24 | sarah03 | Not really. |
| 22:20.44 | MrGrim | ya... the best bugs to fix are the ones other apps take advantage of |
| 22:20.46 | r00tsh3ll | http://r00tsh3ll.homelinux.org:8081/shotz/1.html |
| 22:21.30 | MrGrim | r00tsh3ll: you must send me that background :D |
| 22:21.33 | sarah03 | If I bump the resolution on it back up to 1152x864, the DPI would be almost consistent (it's like 89x92dpi, instead of 61x63dpi, which isn't terribly noticable) but then I lose XVideo. |
| 22:21.46 | MrGrim | sarah03: doh :/ |
| 22:21.54 | MrGrim | I can't use xvideo myself |
| 22:22.02 | sarah03 | By running Xinerama, anyway, I lose DRI. |
| 22:22.05 | MrGrim | the nvidia drivers lack of gamma correction for xvideo kills it for me |
| 22:22.08 | sarah03 | And Composite isn't worthwhile, anyway. |
| 22:22.24 | MrGrim | r00tsh3ll: thanks! :D |
| 22:22.36 | r00tsh3ll | np :-p |
| 22:22.48 | MrGrim | I never realized how much xvideo helps until I noticed how much slower using gl output plugins is :/ |
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| 22:23.43 | sarah03 | Try without the benefits of GL, XVideo, and XSHM. |
| 22:23.55 | MrGrim | :/ |
| 22:23.58 | sarah03 | And DGA. |
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| 22:24.03 | MrGrim | ack |
| 22:24.09 | MrGrim | damn that's horrible |
| 22:24.10 | sarah03 | And then try running a TV viewer program. |
| 22:24.35 | MrGrim | xshm is slow for me... never was very fast |
| 22:24.39 | scrooge | OMG |
| 22:24.52 | scrooge | amarok > * |
| 22:24.53 | MrGrim | I still prefer juk :) |
| 22:25.04 | sarah03 | If you can get it to run in the first place, then you have to deal with heaps and heaps of dropped frames. |
| 22:25.08 | sarah03 | JuK is good.l |
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| 22:25.27 | MrGrim | juk seems to be a strict adherer to the KISS principle.. |
| 22:25.29 | MrGrim | it's so clean |
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| 22:25.39 | scrooge | lol |
| 22:25.43 | sarah03 | It, well, Just Works. |
| 22:25.45 | scrooge | dcop > * |
| 22:25.48 | MrGrim | yes |
| 22:25.59 | MrGrim | dcop rocks, but not enough apps take advantage of it fully |
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| 22:26.21 | MrGrim | I keep hoping juk will use a dcop "event" (what's the proper term?) to fire off notices when the tracks change |
| 22:26.23 | sarah03 | The only thing that I wish you could easily do with JuK is deselect an item in the playlist once you've clicked on it. |
| 22:26.30 | MrGrim | I could use that to set tag info for icecast streams |
| 22:26.32 | sarah03 | Signal. |
| 22:26.53 | MrGrim | as I use juk to feed my icecast server |
| 22:27.16 | MrGrim | sarah03: I've never used juk's playlist support |
| 22:27.23 | MrGrim | I just use the collection browser and the play queue |
| 22:27.46 | MrGrim | what sold me on juk was the mass rename ability |
| 22:27.51 | sarah03 | That's most of what I'm referring to, actually. |
| 22:27.54 | MrGrim | that completely organized my entire music collection in seconds |
| 22:28.06 | sarah03 | If I click on an item in the playlist, it stays selected until I select something else. |
| 22:28.19 | MrGrim | sarah03: ahh I see what you mean |
| 22:28.19 | sarah03 | playlist/collection list/whatever you want to call it. |
| 22:28.34 | MrGrim | hmm, for what purpose would you like to unselect? |
| 22:28.47 | MrGrim | I've personally never run into a situation where that's a problem |
| 22:28.49 | MrGrim | so I'm curious |
| 22:29.39 | sarah03 | I keep JuK running random/repeat all. So, when I stop it playing to walk away from the machine or whatnot, there's nothing saying I'm going to want to listen to the same first track when I come back. :D |
| 22:30.13 | MrGrim | hmm bte can any gstreamer users here tell me off the top of your head if gstreamer has a jack output plugin? |
| 22:30.49 | MrGrim | sarah03: hmm I see... most of the time I just start an album, and when it's done find another album |
| 22:30.50 | sarah03 | It's not a big issue or anything, and if it were put in, it's not something I'd likely use terribly often, so *shrug*. |
| 22:31.09 | MrGrim | for me listening to individual tracks on many albums is akin to watching a single chapter on a dvd movie :P |
| 22:31.35 | MrGrim | not always the case tho |
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| 22:31.49 | MrGrim | i.e. if I had my way money would have never made it into dark side of the moon... |
| 22:32.01 | sarah03 | *shrug* That's how I do it. |
| 22:32.16 | MrGrim | (JuK) [Animals] 1 - Pink Floyd - Pigs on the Wing 1 [0:03/1:24] [MP3/202kbps/2.03MB] |
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| 22:33.27 | MrGrim | r00tsh3ll: what icon theme is that? |
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| 22:34.04 | MrGrim | hmm I'm over 200 unread messages in my mailbox... I should do smthn about that... |
| 22:34.17 | r00tsh3ll | MrGrim: noia :D look this one http://r00tsh3ll.homelinux.org:8081/shotz/6.html |
| 22:34.59 | richmoore | sarah03: add a wishlist request to bugs.kde.org - adding a new dcop method is straightforward |
| 22:35.30 | sarah03 | richmoore: Oh, I know it is. Even written from scratch [without the benefit of dcopidl2cpp or such.] |
| 22:35.32 | MrGrim | r00tsh3ll: you don't use a taskbar? |
| 22:35.52 | MrGrim | richmoore: I was the one with the dcop wish |
| 22:35.58 | richmoore | ah, sorry |
| 22:36.35 | sarah03 | r00tsh3ll: Not bad. Can't say I'm a terribly big fan of the window title font myself, of course. :) |
| 22:37.09 | MrGrim | I agree w/ sarah03 :P |
| 22:37.57 | r00tsh3ll | MrGrim: i prefer 'ctrl+tab' |
| 22:38.00 | MrGrim | hmm anyone here heard of the band aluminum babe? |
| 22:38.42 | MrGrim | hmm.. I'm a big mouser :P and that's for desktops not apps... did you meant alt+tab? :P |
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| 22:39.48 | MrGrim | I have my taskbar set to only show apps on the current desktop |
| 22:39.53 | MrGrim | otherwise it'd be too crowded to be useful |
| 22:40.31 | MrGrim | that combined with heavy use of the system tray keeps usually onl 2-4 apps on my taskbar at any given time |
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| 22:42.10 | scrooge | dam right! |
| 22:42.34 | scrooge | wats the point of multi desktops if all the taskbar icons are in the taskbar!? |
| 22:42.45 | scrooge | sarah03: :P |
| 22:43.04 | MrGrim | sarah03: just send it here and I'll serve it :) |
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| 22:44.55 | orangey | hey all! |
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| 22:45.53 | orangey | I have question: I just installed some "unofficial" mandrake packages (thac's) for KDE 3.4.. All seems well, except two things: 1. When I do settings:/ , it says "unknown settings folder", and when I try Settings > configure konqueror, it gives me an "empty page".. |
| 22:45.59 | orangey | I checked, and my kio_settings.so is in place.. |
| 22:46.04 | orangey | so I don't understand what's going on.. |
| 22:46.31 | leo | what i'm supposed to do if i want to set a different default browser for kde? |
| 22:47.20 | MrPingouin | hmm |
| 22:47.23 | MrPingouin | kcontrol |
| 22:47.25 | MrPingouin | kde components |
| 22:47.30 | MrPingouin | I think it's something like that |
| 22:47.39 | grepper | leo: for 3.4 its under kde components->component chooser |
| 22:47.47 | MrPingouin | for 3.3 too ;) |
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| 22:48.35 | grepper | nope, its not in 3.3 |
| 22:49.06 | orangey | nobody can tell me more about "unknown settings folder" when I type in settings:/ |
| 22:49.07 | orangey | ? |
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| 22:51.03 | leo | grepper: and for 3.3? :) |
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| 22:52.30 | MrGrim | http://12.202.217.219/screenshot.jpg <- sarah03's desktop |
| 22:53.09 | sarah03 | (Yes, there's supposed to be a big black area in it, because I don't have a rectangular desktop.) |
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| 22:55.32 | leo | MrPingouin: for 3.3 too... sorry for subestiming (is this word right?) you |
| 22:55.53 | grepper | leo: in 3.3 its more difficult and unlikely to yield perfect results, but basically you need to set the filetype text/html to open in your selected browser |
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| 22:59.01 | loren | what's the command to run the first time wizard |
| 22:59.21 | sarah03 | kpersonalizer |
| 22:59.23 | richmoore | kpersonalizer |
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| 23:01.45 | njaard | I'm bored, entertain me |
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| 23:02.25 | loren | thanks |
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| 23:03.04 | slayerbob | man that banjo must be really bad |
| 23:03.23 | njaard | doesn't matter as long as Cerulean plays it |
| 23:03.31 | slayerbob | :P |
| 23:04.21 | MrGrim | I think Animals is perhaps once of the greatest albums ever made... |
| 23:04.56 | njaard | by which musician? |
| 23:05.00 | MrGrim | pink floyd |
| 23:05.12 | brucehoult | pigs, three differetn kinds |
| 23:05.14 | njaard | ah, pish pop ;) |
| 23:05.20 | MrGrim | (JuK) [Animals] 2 - Pink Floyd - Dogs [7:54/17:08] [MP3/212kbps/26.0MB] |
| 23:05.55 | brucehoult | MrGrim: I think it's the floyd's weakest album, myself |
| 23:06.03 | MrGrim | heh |
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| 23:06.09 | MrGrim | that honor goes to the wall |
| 23:06.19 | brucehoult | !!!!!!! |
| 23:06.37 | MrGrim | the only one I don't have |
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| 23:06.39 | MrGrim | waste of HD space |
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| 23:07.19 | brucehoult | really? |
| 23:07.46 | brucehoult | You have Obscured by Clouds and Saucerful of Secrets and you thing the Wall is worse? |
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| 23:08.12 | MrGrim | http://www.zug.com/pranks/media/ |
| 23:08.18 | njaard | â™Dimmu Borgir - Perfection or Vanity |
| 23:08.31 | MrGrim | brucehoult: ok good point.. |
| 23:08.50 | MrGrim | tho I frequently forget those two albums exist |
| 23:09.02 | brucehoult | and Atom Heart Mother |
| 23:09.03 | brucehoult | and Relics |
| 23:09.08 | MrGrim | relics is awesome! |
| 23:09.27 | MrGrim | paintbox, cirrus minor, julia dream, etc. etc. |
| 23:09.32 | MrGrim | how can you not like it? |
| 23:09.40 | MrGrim | but then again |
| 23:09.43 | MrGrim | you don't like animals :/ |
| 23:10.16 | MrGrim | brucehoult: what do you think is pink floyds best album? |
| 23:10.17 | brucehoult | I wouldn't say "don't like", but it's not up there with Dark Side, Wish You Were Here, The Wall |
| 23:10.30 | MrGrim | dark side is pretty good |
| 23:10.33 | brucehoult | it's probably better than Final Cut though :-) |
| 23:10.33 | MrGrim | 2nd only to animals :) |
| 23:11.06 | brucehoult | and I actually like the post-Waters Momentary Lapse of Reason a lot |
| 23:11.09 | MrGrim | there are a few songs in the wall that are good |
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| 23:11.14 | MrGrim | but overall it's rather boring |
| 23:11.51 | brucehoult | I dislike Vera and Bring The Boys Back Home. The rest is great |
| 23:12.04 | sarah03 | Hm. Can't say much about Pink Floyd, myself. |
| 23:13.10 | slayerbob | heh pink floyd predates even me |
| 23:13.13 | slayerbob | and i am very old |
| 23:13.16 | MrGrim | I like is there anybody out there? and comfortably numb |
| 23:13.26 | brucehoult | Run Like Hell |
| 23:13.32 | MrGrim | slayerbob: you don't have to be from a generation to like it's music |
| 23:13.37 | MrGrim | I'm 22 y/o and love pink floyd |
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| 23:14.05 | MrGrim | hehe |
| 23:14.06 | brucehoult | slayerbob: all their best stuff is after you were born. Even Meddle is, probably :-) |
| 23:14.08 | sarah03 | Hm. I very rarely find music that I love right off the bat... usually, I find it grows on me. |
| 23:14.08 | MrGrim | Dhraakellian: good point :) |
| 23:14.16 | MrPingouin | Dhraakellian: new world ? |
| 23:14.21 | MrGrim | sarah03: same here |
| 23:14.29 | Dhraakellian | MrGrim, that's another good one, but that's the 9th |
| 23:14.30 | wnorrix | when i try creating a new task in karm i get a X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3 |
| 23:14.33 | MrGrim | sarah03: I meet too many ppl that will reject music after only a few seconds of listening to it |
| 23:14.41 | Dhraakellian | I'm not familiar with the others, unfortunately |
| 23:14.41 | MrPingouin | Dhraakellian: MrPingouin not MrGrim ;) |
| 23:15.06 | Dhraakellian | Mr*: you guys really should differentiate your names a little earlier. !;) |
| 23:15.08 | sarah03 | MrGrim: *shrug* I'll occasionally reject it at first listening, but it ends up in my collection anyway and comes up during random play. |
| 23:15.14 | MrGrim | sarah03: or... have you ever met the type of person who either does not like music, or only ever listens to music for background noise? |
| 23:15.53 | MrGrim | my boss at work keeps the radio on one of those clearchannel pop hit stations with a playlist consisting of 10 songs |
| 23:16.00 | MrGrim | the 10 worst pop songs ever |
| 23:16.02 | MrGrim | that type |
| 23:16.06 | MrGrim | he never listens to the music |
| 23:16.08 | sarah03 | MrGrim: Oh, I'll admit to listening to a lot of stuff for background noise, but I'm still paying enough attention to it to learn the lyrics to it. |
| 23:16.10 | MrGrim | he only has it for background noise |
| 23:16.17 | sarah03 | And I end up singing along 90% of the time. |
| 23:16.21 | MrGrim | and the only reason he insists on that station is it's familiar background noise |
| 23:16.26 | MrGrim | any other station is unfamiliar |
| 23:16.40 | sarah03 | I can't stand clearchannel anything. |
| 23:16.59 | Dhraakellian | 's decent, but not as good |
| 23:17.08 | sarah03 | I own a radio - it's my alarm clock. |
| 23:17.10 | brucehoult | sarah03: when I use somethign for background noise e.g. while programming, it means that I know it *so8 well that I know all the lyrics and timing and everything and it can just drift over me and make me happy and calm and in a programming mood, but without taking any of my brainpower to actually listen to it |
| 23:17.14 | sarah03 | It's set to the buzzer. |
| 23:17.21 | Dhraakellian | If I listen to the radio, it's either news/talk or classical |
| 23:17.32 | MrGrim | sarah03: I mean background noise as in he doesn't give the actual music any more credit than he would static |
| 23:17.35 | MrGrim | the music isn't the point |
| 23:17.55 | njaard | then clearchannel is perfect |
| 23:18.18 | sarah03 | Clearchannel is Evil and Wrong. |
| 23:18.18 | MrGrim | I dunno... I've always taken for granted the ability music has to effect me on a primal and emotional level |
| 23:18.22 | MrGrim | and assumed it worked that way for everyone |
| 23:18.35 | MrGrim | it really threw me for a loop the first time I met someone who doesn't like music at all |
| 23:19.25 | MrGrim | Dhraakellian: the local university here has a radio station that plays a ton of local, indie, and less popular but better than mainstream type music |
| 23:19.32 | MrGrim | it's a damn good station |
| 23:19.47 | MrGrim | the only one around here that even plays radiohead :P |
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| 23:20.29 | MrGrim | and they use the voice of Master Shake when announcing their station ID :P |
| 23:20.44 | MrGrim | which garners it lots of points for me :P |
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| 23:23.18 | MrGrim | hey you white house! haha charade you are! |
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| 23:23.39 | MrGrim | wow conversation ended abruptly |
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| 23:23.56 | sarah03 | I'm here, doing various stuff. |
| 23:24.11 | sarah03 | Like suffering through someone else's RH9 box. |
| 23:24.19 | MrGrim | hahaha |
| 23:24.22 | Dhraakellian | heh |
| 23:24.31 | MrGrim | I suck at all distros that aren't gentoo |
| 23:24.32 | Dhraakellian | on the 400MHz celeron |
| 23:24.41 | Dhraakellian | and then I moved to Gentoo |
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| 23:24.45 | MrGrim | I tried mandrake once |
| 23:24.48 | Dhraakellian | on a 2.4GHz p4 |
| 23:24.50 | brucehoult | MrGrim: do you know what this "white house" is about? |
| 23:24.58 | MrGrim | it's seperation of packages into user and dev bugged the never ending piss outta me |
| 23:25.04 | sarah03 | The last time I used RH anything for myself was ... er, I installed 5.1 on a p120 laptop because I knew it would be a quick install. |
| 23:25.11 | sarah03 | That was about a year ago. |
| 23:25.21 | Dhraakellian | it was trying to run KDE 3.2 betas on it that annoyed the heck out of me |
| 23:25.22 | MrGrim | brucehoult: I like to think it's THE white house, and never digged deeper to see if it had any other meaning |
| 23:25.25 | Dhraakellian | s/run/install |
| 23:25.27 | sarah03 | And that was just because it was there. |
| 23:25.32 | brucehoult | no no, it's about Mary Whitehouse |
| 23:25.45 | MrGrim | brucehoult: leave me to my illusion :/ |
| 23:25.47 | brucehoult | a British anti-porn )and everything elose fun) crusader |
| 23:25.48 | sarah03 | (Or was it 5.2? I don't remember now.) |
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| 23:26.15 | MrGrim | I tried installing ubuntu on a vmware machine, but vmware likes to freeze my system solid |
| 23:26.41 | sarah03 | I use vmware quite frequently. |
| 23:26.49 | MrGrim | sarah03: ya, it's only lately for me |
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| 23:26.56 | MrGrim | I think maybe something with newer 2.6 kernels? |
| 23:26.59 | MrGrim | I haven't got a clue |
| 23:27.10 | sarah03 | The issues I've had with it are .. well, running 2 operating systems simultaneously tends to put a bit more load on the CPU. |
| 23:27.19 | brucehoult | MrGrim: http://www.nndb.com/people/527/000066329/ |
| 23:27.20 | MrGrim | but last month my machine froze solid (not even able to ssh in) for the first time in.. god years |
| 23:27.24 | sarah03 | And so, shit starts grinding away pretty quickly. |
| 23:27.28 | MrGrim | and I was installing ubuntu in vmware |
| 23:27.29 | Dhraakellian | heh |
| 23:27.38 | sarah03 | And my proc doesn't like grinding away. |
| 23:27.39 | MrGrim | so a week or so later I decided to try the ubuntu install again |
| 23:27.42 | MrGrim | and it froze again |
| 23:27.49 | MrGrim | so I put two and two together and stopped trying |
| 23:28.22 | MrGrim | I tried installing debian about a year and a half ago when I decided to reinstall linux |
| 23:28.28 | MrGrim | that lasted about 3 hours |
| 23:28.55 | sarah03 | I almost installed Debian when I picked up the 80G drive that I'm running now as my system drive. |
| 23:29.15 | brucehoult | hey, wow .. that page even mentions "Pigs"!!! I didn't expect that! |
| 23:29.17 | sarah03 | Thought about it, decided against it. Mostly because of the same issues that I run into with almost every pre-packaged distro. |
| 23:29.50 | MrGrim | I suppose it's possible I didn't give myself enough time to learn apt... but from trying to mess with it for 3 hours I came to really hate i |
| 23:29.50 | MrGrim | t |
| 23:29.50 | sarah03 | [Almost? I take that back. Every.] |
| 23:29.50 | MrGrim | it seemed like quite a mess |
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| 23:30.11 | MrGrim | I liked portage much more... if only there was a portage like system that used binary packages |
| 23:30.14 | MrGrim | I'd be all over that |
| 23:30.21 | sarah03 | Portage can use binary packages, you know. |
| 23:30.25 | MrGrim | ya |
| 23:30.43 | MrGrim | but not every portage package has a binary for every combination of use flags :P |
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| 23:31.01 | sarah03 | Yeah, well, that's the same case that you run into with any other pre-packaged distribution. |
| 23:31.07 | Dhraakellian | I must admit that there is a warm, fuzzy feeling that comes from having a system that was almost entirely compiled locally |
| 23:31.08 | MrGrim | exactly |
| 23:31.10 | sarah03 | Which is why I'm using Gentoo. |
| 23:31.14 | Dhraakellian | even if it's not all that important |
| 23:31.25 | MrGrim | sarah03: I don't expect a binary distro with the same flexibility to really come into being |
| 23:31.28 | MrGrim | I just wish for it :) |
| 23:31.33 | MrGrim | in the meantime I'll continue compiling |
| 23:31.49 | sarah03 | It's not the warm fuzzy feeling for me.. it's the being able to choose what I want. |
| 23:32.02 | MrGrim | Dhraakellian: you missed my point... the compiling is one feature of portage I could live w/o |
| 23:32.06 | MrGrim | it's the rest of the system I love |
| 23:32.14 | MrGrim | I couldn't care less if my system was compiled locally |
| 23:32.39 | MrGrim | it just happens that in order to achieve that level of flexibility you kinda have to |
| 23:33.12 | MrGrim | I love gentoo's init system |
| 23:33.20 | MrGrim | especially considering I moved from slackware to gentoo |
| 23:33.29 | MrGrim | slackware has quite possibly the worst init system ever |
| 23:33.34 | MrGrim | tho... it's in close competition to freebsd |
| 23:33.34 | Dhraakellian | MrGrim, notice the "even though it's not all that important" part of whatI said |
| 23:33.36 | Dhraakellian | !;) |
| 23:35.16 | Dhraakellian | I keep feeling like I ought to give some other distro a try, but gentoo has quite a bit of inertia on my system |
| 23:35.53 | njaard | I think the good things said about the Dark Tranquility album "Character" are well deserved |
| 23:36.03 | sarah03 | The thing for me is mostly that I end up compiling everything myself anyway. I use portage basically as an automation of the configure;make;make install process. |
| 23:36.14 | MrGrim | njaard: mind sending me a sample track? |
| 23:36.28 | njaard | MrGrim: do you like death metal? |
| 23:36.36 | MrGrim | hmm I should clarify atually, I went from slackware to lfs to gentoo |
| 23:36.41 | MrGrim | lfs used redhat's init system |
| 23:36.49 | MrGrim | which, while maybe an improvement, is a bad idea |
| 23:36.58 | Dhraakellian | np: Jean Sibelius <*> Symphony no.5 (original 1915 version) - I. Tempo tranquillo assai |
| 23:37.18 | MrGrim | njaard: am I to assume that the death prefix means that metal isn't good enough at causing headaches... so death metal tries to alleviate that? |
| 23:37.23 | MrGrim | and does that answer your question? :) |
| 23:37.37 | Dhraakellian | heh... when an np announcement seems on-topic in #kde |
| 23:37.45 | njaard | MrGrim: I don't think I'll bother sending you a track :) |
| 23:37.50 | njaard | MrGrim: hope you don't mind |
| 23:37.56 | MrGrim | no problem here :) |
| 23:38.15 | brucehoult | does death metal go to 12? |
| 23:38.23 | MrGrim | (JuK) [Xenogears Original Soundtrack (disc 1)] 1 - Yasunori Mitsuda - Light from the Netherworld [0:02/4:51] [MP3/128kbps/4.45MB] |
| 23:38.28 | njaard | MrGrim: it goes to 13 |
| 23:38.33 | njaard | ehm, brucehoult ^^^ |
| 23:38.37 | sarah03 | lol |
| 23:38.42 | MrGrim | why do ppl keep replying to me like that? :P |
| 23:38.52 | MrGrim | that's the 3rd time w/i the hour |
| 23:39.24 | Dhraakellian | heh |
| 23:39.43 | Dhraakellian | MrGrim, well, the Mr prefix is what caused it when I accidentally replied to you |
| 23:39.56 | njaard | brucehoult: by the way, what does that mean? |
| 23:40.12 | MrGrim | I think I am alone in my ability to check what tab completion came up with before I press enter... |
| 23:40.23 | MrGrim | njaard: I assume now playing |
| 23:40.24 | brucehoult | njaard: well, Spinal Tap had an amplifier that goes to 11 |
| 23:40.30 | MrGrim | oh that.. |
| 23:40.31 | brucehoult | because it's lounder than the usual 10, right? |
| 23:40.46 | njaard | it's as loud as my computer's amplifier is |
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| 23:41.06 | njaard | and my computer has the loudest computer amplifier I've ever used |
| 23:41.15 | MrGrim | if I went that loud I'd have to buy new speakers :( |
| 23:41.30 | MrGrim | or.. well technically it's not my pc's amplifier |
| 23:41.35 | MrGrim | it's the amplifier my pc is connected to |
| 23:41.57 | njaard | http://ktown.kde.org/~charles/headphones2.jpg :) |
| 23:42.34 | njaard | I'd like to say that I don't hate my neighbours enough to not use headphones, but that said, these headphones are loud enough to just leave on the table and listen to from the kitchen |
| 23:43.03 | MrGrim | hmmm... btw does anyone here with a livedrive know if it's possible using the alsa drivers to detect when headphones are plugged in and do something when they are? |
| 23:43.15 | sarah03 | Hm. The only time I can be bothered with headphones is when I'm away from my computer. |
| 23:43.32 | MrGrim | I don't like headphones |
| 23:43.38 | MrGrim | it's almost a claustrophobic thing |
| 23:43.40 | Dhraakellian | heh |
| 23:43.43 | MrGrim | I have to be able to hear what's around me |
| 23:43.56 | Dhraakellian | I usually use my stereo when I'm at the computer |
| 23:44.05 | njaard | sarah03: my headphones have too high quality to not use, and I have to move between countries too frequently to carry around anything bigger |
| 23:44.06 | Dhraakellian | and I don'tlike most headphones |
| 23:44.13 | MrGrim | (JuK) [The Lord of the Rings - The Two Towers] 17 - Elizabeth Fraser - Isengard Unleashed [0:00/5:01] [MP3/320kbps/11.5MB] |
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| 23:44.43 | Dhraakellian | I prefer to have either ear buds or headphones that don't have any over- or behind-the-head stuff |
| 23:44.47 | njaard | I need them to keep m head warm ;) |
| 23:44.59 | MrGrim | Dhraakellian: I wouldn't use those due to quality issues |
| 23:45.18 | njaard | it's weird |
| 23:45.24 | njaard | how everyone in #kde-devel seems to listen to metal |
| 23:45.25 | MrGrim | you won't be able to convince me ear buds could ever sound good |
| 23:45.28 | njaard | and I come in here and nobody does ;) |
| 23:45.53 | Dhraakellian | heh |
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| 23:46.10 | orangey | hey all! |
| 23:46.13 | MrGrim | yo |
| 23:46.20 | orangey | is there a way to get kaffeine to show a position bar while in full screen? |
| 23:46.25 | MrGrim | orangey: what'd ya think of sarah03's screenshot? :) |
| 23:46.46 | MrGrim | orangey: I'd check for you, but that'd require getting xine to stop seg faulting :/ |
| 23:46.54 | orangey | MrGrim, I like it : ) |
| 23:47.05 | orangey | MrGrim, my xine is also segfaulting : ) Are you using mdk w/ plf xine/ |
| 23:47.11 | MrGrim | gentoo |
| 23:47.15 | njaard | ugh, I'm so bored |
| 23:47.19 | njaard | I could sleep |
| 23:47.21 | orangey | but a friend is asking, so I thought it would be good to figure it out here : ) |
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| 23:47.23 | njaard | that might be a wise idea |
| 23:47.28 | MrGrim | if totem didn't require so many freakin' dependancies I'd try it |
| 23:47.31 | MrGrim | give gstreamer a shot |
| 23:47.38 | njaard | how long can I keep an open can of coconut milk in the fridge before it becomes unsafe? |
| 23:48.00 | MrGrim | Dhraakellian: if you like it I can send you my script to generate a now playing line like mine |
| 23:48.12 | slougi | does koffice compile on amd64? |
| 23:48.13 | orangey | how can I get kaffeine to NOT use xine/ |
| 23:48.21 | MrGrim | it's a tcl script that prints the line to stdout, so it can be used with any client |
| 23:48.22 | njaard | orangey: don't use it :) |
| 23:48.25 | njaard | then it won't use xine |
| 23:48.32 | MrGrim | orangey: kaffeine only uses xine |
| 23:48.37 | orangey | njaard, on other systems, it's given mplayer as an option |
| 23:48.37 | MrGrim | there is an experimental gstreamer patch |
| 23:48.40 | MrGrim | but it doesn't really work |
| 23:48.46 | MrGrim | I'm hoping it'll be picked up tho |
| 23:48.48 | njaard | I ese |
| 23:48.53 | MrGrim | it'd be awesome to have kaffeine's ui w/ gstreamer |
| 23:48.53 | njaard | I see |
| 23:49.48 | MrGrim | kaffeine has the best video player UI I've personally ever used |
| 23:49.50 | Dhraakellian | MrGrim, no thanks; I like my little one-liner dcop aliases |
| 23:49.53 | MrGrim | imnsho |
| 23:50.18 | Dhraakellian | I've found kplayer to be more stable |
| 23:50.29 | MrGrim | well kaffeine isn't the problem for me |
| 23:50.32 | MrGrim | it's xine-lib |
| 23:50.35 | slougi | MrGrim: imo, 0.4 was nicer than 0.5 |
| 23:50.36 | MrGrim | all xine ui's seg fault |
| 23:50.43 | MrGrim | slougi: I disagree |
| 23:50.50 | MrGrim | I like the new ui |
| 23:50.59 | Dhraakellian | and I like having a gui option to be able to zoom to something other than 1x, 2x, or 3x |
| 23:51.06 | slougi | i find 0.5's ui to be too full of similar looking widgets that do different things |
| 23:51.08 | MrGrim | whoa holy crap this chick has an awesome voice |
| 23:51.11 | MrGrim | (JuK) [The Lord of the Rings - The Two Towers] 19 - Emiliana Torrini - Gollum's Song [1:55/5:51] [MP3/320kbps/13.4MB] |
| 23:51.13 | Dhraakellian | without manually changing the window dimensions |
| 23:51.26 | Dhraakellian | MrGrim, yes, that is a nice track |
| 23:51.49 | Dhraakellian | I use kplayer for most things |
| 23:51.57 | Dhraakellian | and xine-ui or kaffeine for DVD |
| 23:52.09 | MrGrim | I'm currently using mplayer until I can resolve my xine issues |
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| 23:52.17 | sarah03 | Hm. I habitually use mplayer for dvds. |
| 23:52.27 | MrGrim | I need to get it setup with debug info so I can find where the segfault is |
| 23:52.28 | Dhraakellian | MrGrim, vanilla mplayer or a frontend? |
| 23:52.34 | MrGrim | vanilla |
| 23:52.37 | Dhraakellian | sarah03, DVD menus? |
| 23:52.43 | MrGrim | mplayer -ao alsa -vo gl |
| 23:52.48 | brucehoult | mmmm, vanilla... |
| 23:53.21 | sarah03 | Dhraakellian: Considering that usually I want to watch the movie and not go through the other content that gets thrown on... |
| 23:53.31 | Dhraakellian | heh |
| 23:53.34 | sarah03 | When I want to go through the other content, I've got a copy of xine installed. |
| 23:53.43 | Dhraakellian | hehheh |
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| 23:54.40 | MrGrim | xine is an unstable thing... mplayer just has a propietary feel to me, even if it is open... gstreamer I think, once it has enough support, will be the best solution |
| 23:55.02 | sarah03 | I've got a bad habit of sticking to what works for me... I used to use mpg123 to play MP3's all the time. |
| 23:55.18 | MrGrim | a lot of things work |
| 23:55.27 | MrGrim | I want what works best |
| 23:55.43 | Dhraakellian | I've never used gstreamer for anything other than audio |
| 23:55.43 | MrGrim | if I wanted what just worked I'd be using twm |
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| 23:55.45 | eean | is it possible to change the language for one application? |
| 23:55.45 | MrGrim | and not kde |
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| 23:56.09 | Dhraakellian | and I tend to use xine-engine in amarok these days anyway |
| 23:56.23 | MrGrim | I still use arts in juk |
| 23:56.30 | MrGrim | gstreamer still has issues for me |
| 23:56.35 | MrGrim | and akode has never worked |
| 23:56.36 | MrGrim | ever |
| 23:56.48 | sarah03 | MrGrim: I want what works best -for me-. Which is why I use the apps that I do. |
| 23:57.03 | Dhraakellian | I think I used akode-engine briefly and didn't have too much trouble with it |
| 23:57.05 | eean | MrGrim: probably you don't have dmix setup |
| 23:57.11 | sarah03 | Which is why I'm running KDE: nothing else quite fits the way I want to do things. |
| 23:57.22 | MrGrim | mpg123 may work for playing mp3's, but it sucks at browsing a music collection or organizing it :P |
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| 23:57.36 | MrGrim | eean: I don't need it |
| 23:57.39 | sarah03 | Which is something that I never bothered with, and still don't bother with. |
| 23:57.52 | eean | MrGrim: oh, you have a decent soundcard |
| 23:57.52 | MrGrim | eean: and that's not the problem I have |
| 23:58.10 | MrGrim | sarah03: well I'm currently up to 1395 songs |
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| 23:58.14 | MrGrim | I need to organize them somehow |
| 23:58.14 | sarah03 | The closest I come to organizing it is deciding which hundred tracks I'm going to burn to a CD. |
| 23:58.28 | eean | amaroK ;) |
| 23:58.34 | sarah03 | I've got almost 1300 songs in ~/mp3. |
| 23:58.34 | MrGrim | juK :) |
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| 23:59.01 | sarah03 | If I went and found all of the tracks that were floating around on my drive, it'd probably be more like 1800. |
| 23:59.18 | MrGrim | all of my music is properly tagged and follows the exact naming scheme of ~/Desktop/Music/<Album>/<Track> - <Artist> - <Title>.ext |
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| 23:59.49 | sarah03 | Mine follows the scheme of ~/mp3/whatever-it-happens-to-be-named.ext. |
