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00:06.51pembo13how do i get knotes to save?
00:07.30thiagoit saves automatically
00:08.32pembo13ok, then how do i get it to open what it has saved?
00:09.35pembo13because every time i close knotes i loose everything
00:09.52pembo13as in, when i launch knotes again later, nothing is there
00:10.08pembo13and was really starting to like it
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00:13.44TomanHi, can I configure the look of kpf directory listings?
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00:15.10pembo13thiago, any suggestions?
00:15.37_neoclusthi
00:18.59pembo13hello
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00:21.13neoclusthi pembo13
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00:22.34pembo13sorry about that
00:22.42pembo13i can't get knotes to save my notes
00:23.32jonocan you all do me a favour
00:23.50pembo13jono, what's that?
00:23.55jonomy band is in a national competition in the UK, and I need people to vote for the band by going to a link
00:24.08jonoif we win we basically get singed and play a large festival
00:24.14jonohttp://www.snickersunsigned.co.uk/snickersunsigned/voting/votedetail.asp?bandid=952&startat=0
00:24.18jonothanks :)
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00:24.41pembo13jono, cool
00:24.47jonopembo13, :)
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00:31.39un3xhmmm, i have to wait half a second when i click with the mouse, for it to hold
00:31.43un3xhow to fix?
00:31.58damjanpembo13: what kde is that?
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00:35.10maxhi all
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00:37.18aseigojono: hey =)
00:37.39aseigojono: btw, you know zack greant?
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00:41.40lippelcan't play the samples :-/
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00:43.10lippeljono: which format is used for the stream?
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00:43.28aseigolippel: it's mp3
00:44.55lippelweird
00:47.20jonoaseigo, yep :)
00:47.28jonolippel, which stream? the lugradio one?
00:47.50jonoaseigo, sorry for not replying to your mail yet - its been hectic here
00:47.58jonoaseigo, did you vote? :)
00:48.17jonozak is a good pal of mine
00:48.18lippeljono: your seraphidian tracks
00:48.34jonolippel, oh, they are mp3 files I think
00:48.41jononot sure how kerrang stream them
00:48.57jonolippel, you can hear the band at seraphidian.com
00:49.18aseigojono: crazy... i used to hang with zack back when he was a php documenter
00:49.23aseigojono: he's from calgary as well
00:49.43jonoaseigo, wow, cool
00:49.50jonoaseigo, I met him at EuroFoo in Holland
00:49.51aseigojono: so when i saw him in the Cc list on that email i was like, "how the fuck does jono know him?" =)
00:49.53lippeljono: ah, that works ;-)
00:50.00aseigojono: that would explain it.. yeah, he's a cool guy
00:50.01jonolippel, :)
00:50.09jonothis competition is a big deal
00:50.17jonoif we get through we are basically gonna get signed :)
00:50.19Blissexaseigo: Calgary? isnt that where DeRaadt lingers menacingly?
00:50.24aseigoBlissex: same place
00:50.57Blissexaseigo: Uhm Calgary... Must be a hotbed of freeware.
00:51.00aseigoBlissex: the guy who ran quakeforge (when that was still relevant and interesting ;) lived in Calgary too
00:51.05TomanHi, can I configure the look of kpf directory listings?
00:51.27aseigoBlissex: then there's Security Focus, which is Calgarian (though bought by semantic last year)
00:52.02aseigoBlissex: one of my friends (who actually worked for me for abuot a year) worked for them (left after the purchase) ... he found the last major hole in sendmail..
00:52.19aseigoit's funny.. there's a bunch of people in Calgary that are pretty hard core
00:52.39aseigoand then there's a bunch of really low skill people. very little inbetweeners
00:52.54Blissexaseigo: starting to think that Calgary must indeed have quite a few hardcore guys. I knew a game programmer in Calgary whose father had a classic PC shop there. A bit of a nutter though.
00:53.59darkcmdwhat does KDE 3.4 look like by default?
00:54.45aseigobut the market for open source developers is growing here, which is nice. it seems to be quite good in the Vancouver region too
00:54.48aseigodarkcmd: http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Screenshots
00:55.13aseigodarkcmd: http://www.tuxmachines.org/gallery/kde3-4/kde34_12 is a decent enough example
00:55.45darkcmdso the kmenu has a new icon?
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00:56.23Bertohi - i just switched to kde from gnome finally at home!!!  so happy
00:56.39aseigoBerto: =))
00:56.53Bertohow can i change the behavior of control-tab?   i want to use this in gaim only, but in KDE it wants to switch desktops
00:57.06aseigoBerto: in the keyboard shortcuts control panel
00:57.10thiagolippel: influence it
00:57.13Bertoaseigo: yeah i became a system admin at a linux lab, and we use kde there... and i've finally had enough of gnome at home
00:57.24aseigoBerto: if you have 3.4, there's a nice little search line there that you can enter some text to limit it =)
00:57.51Bertoaseigo: using mandrake 10.1, kde 3.2 here...
00:58.03Bertowhat's this control panel?  i've been configuring things through mandrake's menus one at a time
00:58.09lippelthiago: better not. my artistical skills are so bad, it would look worse than twm ;-)
00:58.18lippeli can only vote
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00:58.22thiagolippel: I'm not saying "draw"
00:58.40thiagolippel: but you can give your opinion
00:58.50lippelsure
00:58.54SirusIs there a better program than KDE's Desktop Sharing program?
00:59.51aseigoSirus: better in which way?
01:00.08thiagoSirus: NX
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01:00.20aseigolippel: blue is actually a good colour for a lot of reasons. but the desktop will likely be a lot less saturated. esp the icons and what not
01:00.38aseigothiago: depends on what he wants it for. if he wants remote control for help desk type functions, NX ain't it =)
01:00.54aseigoif he wants true remote desktop functionality, then it probably is =)
01:00.59thiagoaseigo: he didn't say, so I am free to assume anything :)
01:01.19Bertowhat's the command for kde control center?
01:01.22thiagoaseigo: it's like in mailing lists: you don't say what distro you're using when you ask for help, you're bound to get a distro-specific answer that won't help you at all.
01:01.25thiagoBerto: kcontrol
01:01.48Blissexaseigo: a ''zen'' flavour should have quite a bit of saffron...
01:02.10Bertothanks thiago
01:02.11lippelaseigo: to me it looks a bit sterile. like something useful you work with, but nothing you _enjoy_ to use.
01:02.36lippelbut that's personal taste of course
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01:03.49mattrcanllaith: still having kopete crashes?
01:03.58Sirusaseigo: well a vnc that wont do key repeats
01:04.11lippelbut if less saturated means lighter, that's something i'll probably prefer myself
01:04.36Sirusif I use kde desktop sharing when I vnc in from lets say a windows box it'll make me type "soooooooooooooooommmmmmmmmmmeeeeeeeeeeeethinggggggggggggg liiiike this"
01:04.39Sirus;/
01:04.49Sirusthiago: NX? is that nomachine?
01:05.10thiagoSirus: yes
01:05.33Sirusthiago: dont you need a key for that?
01:06.05aseigolippel: less saturated means that the colours won't be so bright and gaudy everywhere
01:06.29thiagoSirus: use FreeNX
01:06.56Bertowhere in the kde control center do i change the default browser?  I'm firefox all the way
01:06.59aseigolippel: to you blue looks sterile? hm.. well, it's the "colour" of water and the sky ... it's related to safety and performance IIRC... white is sterile =)
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01:07.17aseigoBerto: KDE Components -> Component Chooser
01:07.17thiagoBerto: Components
01:08.10Bertoi thought so, but there's only three things - E-mail, text editor, and terminal emulator
01:08.37Sirusthiago: does this have a gui? and is it easy to configure? I'd like to connect to my display and not get just a shell
01:09.06thiagoSirus: NX is the best for that, IMO
01:09.46lippelaseigo: don't know ;-) i myself prefer colors like wine read, beige, ocher etc.. or bright colors
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01:10.17Sirusthiago: so nxclient & nxserver-freenx?
01:10.40thiagoSirus: I'd say so
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01:10.50kbrooksHi! I want to ask a question about a KDE program included in KDE 3.4. KGpg. How do I import a key, and how do I sign it?
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01:11.43Sirusthiago: hrmm thx do you use this software?
01:12.06thiagoSirus: yes
01:12.24lippelkbrooks: keys->import key/sign keys in the menu
01:12.31Sirusthiago: I dont suppose I can bug you if I run into problems?
01:12.44kbrooksok
01:12.48thiagoSirus: you'll be hard put to find me online
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01:13.30Sirusthiago: ahh I see well hopefully this is easy to configure
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01:17.53Sirusthiago:  thx btw
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01:19.45LeeJunFanis there any way in kde 3.4.0 to disable shortcuts based on the active window? So things like ctrl-tab use that windows shortcut instead of KDE's?
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01:23.38cartel_query
01:23.44cartel_is there a svn kioslave for kde?
01:23.51thiagokio_svn
01:24.06cartel_thiago: whats the uri syntax? svn://?
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01:24.37thiagoyou have to find out first if you have it installed
01:25.06cartel_roar.. no i dont
01:25.27canllaithmattr: Yes if I use the msn protocol
01:25.35canllaithand no it's nothing to do with my xml/xslt version
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01:28.34cartel_thiago: is that in kdenonbeta?
01:28.38cartel_what tree is it in ?
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01:29.01mattrcanllaith: crappy
01:29.21thiagocartel_: kdesdk
01:30.35cartel_thiago: thx
01:30.41cartel_still cant find it in ubuntu or debian...
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01:32.10Bac9anyone use k3b and can tell me why it says that a writer can write but is not allowing me to write to it?
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01:33.04cartel_thiago: even kio_cvs is not there...
01:34.01cartel_wait
01:34.04cartel_im on crack
01:34.43aseigoGIVE UPTHE CRACK, MAN!
01:34.47aseigoYOU CAN DO IT!
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01:35.51Sirusthiago: are their any good howto's to configure this server?
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01:42.24JabberWokkyAnybody know what file contains the paths used in the Copy To... and Move To... context menus?
01:42.30thiagoSirus: not that I know of
01:42.36JabberWokkyNot the history - the fixed ones.
01:43.23Sirushrmm cool no errors compiling it
01:43.34Sirusthiago: so is their like a nxconfig?
01:45.48Sirusthiago: or do I just run nxclient?
01:46.07JabberWokky(found the startpoint - it's called "kuick-copy"... should be able to locate it from there)
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01:58.14illogic-alnew konvi version .17 released!
01:58.25illogic-alit is teh awesome! go grab it!
01:58.55mattrbah, i'm using CVS :P
01:59.12illogic-alme too actually :-)
01:59.32Sirushrmm
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02:02.01Sirusthiago: how do I get the nxserver started?
02:02.35ryanoe<PROTECTED>
02:03.36Sirusnot i ;/
02:04.01thiagonxserver --start
02:04.38Sirusthiago: nxclient is the the configuration portion? I need it to listen on a certain port didn't see that option in nxclient
02:05.19aseigoGIVE UPTHE CRACK, MAN!
02:06.21slayerbobthat's a really weird bot you have there aseigo
02:06.40Bac9anyone use k3b and can tell me why it says that a writer can write but is not allowing me to write to it?
02:07.03aseigoBac9: linux?
02:07.08SirusNXSERVER - Version 1.4.0-02 OS_(GPL)
02:07.08SirusUsage: nxserver <option>
02:07.08Sirus--passwd: Change password
02:07.23Bac9aseigo: I know of no k3b for anything else
02:07.30SirusThats what I get when in I do the nxserver --start
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02:07.38aseigoBac9: it runs on other os's =)
02:07.41Sirusand nxserver --passwd is no help
02:07.42aseigoBac9: what kernel version are you using?
02:07.49Bac9aseigo: 2.6.10
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02:09.25_poisonhi ^
02:09.27_poison^^
02:09.57Bac9aseigo: so any advice?
02:10.03derekkiteBac9: writing kubuntu install iso as we speak
02:10.12_poisonwhen finding & replacing text with i.e. kate ... how do I insert a tab char into the replacement ? \t wont work =/
02:10.24Bac9derekkite: and how does that help answer mny question?
02:10.34derekkiteBac9: doesn't
02:11.30derekkiteBac9: did you do the k3b setup, giving it a root password and all? and is it recent? look for cdrecord and suid on google
02:12.12derekkiteBac9: if you don't have a recent k3b, you have to unset the suid bit on cdrecord, or something like that. google will tell all
02:12.41slayerbobalthough really if you can recompile a kernel you should be able to recompile k3b too :P
02:12.47slayerboband thusly have the latest version thereof
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02:13.43Bac9derekkite: no I did not set up as root, I just started it up and it found the cdwriter itself, but insists on calling it a cdrom, the version is as recent as debian/sarge
02:15.54derekkiteBac9: k3b has a setup somewhere (can't look atm) that will set permissions etc on the various things it needs. it will ask for a password (or does here) to do that.
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02:16.27Bac9derekkite: the permissions look ok, they are rw for cdrom, and I am in cdrom
02:16.37Bac9derekkite: group cdrom that is
02:17.00Bac9derekkite: but what I am looking at is options->devices
02:17.47derekkiteBac9: just a sec, i'm burning as we speak and can't look
02:18.24Bac9derekkite: k, tell me when
02:18.42Bac9derekkite: I am totally new to this whole cd burning thing so don't really know much about it
02:18.59mattrderekkite: might want to put the fire out, wouldn't want to take you to the hospital with third degree burns. ;)
02:19.28derekkiteBac9: in K3b Settings->K3B Setup
02:19.57Bac9mattr: different people have different forms of entertainment :-)
02:20.23Bac9derekkite: what about Settings->Configure K3b?
02:20.29Bac9derekkite: what about Settings->Configure K3b->Devices?
02:22.27derekkiteBac9: run Settings->K3B Setup and it will do all the permission stuff it needs to run. let it do it's thing and it will just work
02:23.28derekkiteI'm off. if all is well I'll be running kubuntu in an hour or so
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02:24.47Bac9anyone else feel like guiding me through k3b writer setup?
02:25.41ryanoeAnyone in here use mencoder to RIP DVDS?
02:26.53Bac9maybe I should just use mkisofs by hand and forget all this gui stuff?
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02:31.14_poisonryanoe: yes ...
02:32.04ryanoe_poison what is the best command to get the file to 700MB or under?
02:32.11ryanoeWhat command do you usually run?
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02:33.26_poisonmencoder -dvd-device /mnt/dvd -ovc xvid -xvidencopts bitrate=800:me_quality=4:gmc:vhq=4 -oac mp3lame -lame opts mode=1:vbr=2:q=6 dvd://1 -alang de -o /home/$USER/your.avi
02:33.53_poisonryanoe: change lang to your requirements =)
02:34.46_poisonryanoe: you may even try bitrate=900 ... but with 800 I still get really good quality ...
02:37.01ryanoeOh?
02:37.12ryanoeThis is my command
02:37.15ryanoemencoder dvd://1 -chapter 1-1 -dvd-device /dev/cdrom -aspect 16:9 -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg4 -vop cropdetect,scale -zoom -xy 640 -oac mp3lame -lameopts br=128 -ni -o clear.avi
02:38.41ryanoeI guess I need to get to bed now
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02:48.00_poisonwhere has the dialog menu option in konqueror where the recent applications with which the selected file type has been opened gone ? =/
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03:00.16Octaneholy shit im impressed with SANE
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03:01.11Zxcvb_which wv libraries does koffice work with?
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03:02.16Bac9Octane: are you in-sane?
03:02.36Octanelol
03:02.38Octaneinsane in the membrane
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03:25.49Bac9anyone use k3b and can tell me why it says that a writer is capable of writing but is not allowing me to write to it?
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03:26.24mattrwrong user, wrong group
03:26.27mattrwrong permissions for the user
03:26.30mattrwrong permissions for the group
03:26.47mattrnot using ide-scsi for writers on 2.4.x
03:27.45Bac9mattr: user is myself, I am in cdrom group, device is in cdrom group, device gives rw to cdrom group, using 2.6.10
03:28.13MrGrimwhat is the error message?
03:28.17mattrBac9: does the output of groups indicate that you are in fact in the cdrom group?
03:28.26Bac9mattr: yes
03:28.42mattrMrGrim: dude, dunno if you got my email, but the patch you sent me for starfire cards works beautifully
03:28.48Bac9MrGrim: no error message, just doesn't want to list it as a drive that I can burn to
03:28.55MrGrimI got it :D
03:28.58MrGrimglad it worked
03:29.12mattrBac9: can you use cdrecord manually and have it work?
03:29.52Bac9mattr: have not tried, but xcdroast does detect the writer as a writer
03:29.52MrGrimI've had my new home server running a dual port starfire for a bit now.. it's a very nice card once it works :D
03:30.03MrGrimthought you said k3b?
03:30.21Bac9MrGrim: k3b doesn't want to see the writer as a writer
03:30.34DhraakellianQt = "cute"?
03:30.47mattrDhraakellian: yeah
03:30.53Dhraakellianheh
03:31.00Dhraakelliancue-tee
03:31.03Bac9Dhraakellian: only on the outside, and that's up to debate
03:31.23cartel_whats a starfire
03:32.16Bac9mattr, MrGrim: any ideas?
03:32.16MrGrimadaptec duralan nic's
03:32.16MrGrimBac9: ya, try using cdrecord and get an error message :)
03:32.17mattrBac9: what MrGrim said
03:32.32MrGrimcartel_: the 2.6 driver has a bug that causes random bits of memory to be fed through the Rx buffer, instead of actual Rx data
03:32.39Bac9mattr, MrGrim: but would there be error messages if xcdroast detects the writer as a writer?
03:32.39MrGrimbad logic detecting dma address size
03:32.47MrGrimbut only with HIGHMEM4G
03:33.00MrGrimBac9: don't use xcdroast
03:33.06MrGrimtry a straight cdrecord burn of an iso
03:33.17MrGrimcdrecord's error would be much more useful
03:33.32MrGrimcartel_: they ignored my patch on LKML :/
03:33.53cartel_eek
03:33.55Bac9MrGrim: I wanted to use a gui to burn a collection of files on a cd, i guess I'll just stick to mkisofs+cdrecord then?
03:34.03mattrMrGrim: you might want to see if you can feed it through another kernel developer or through your distribution
03:34.05canllaithWhich kernel version too?
03:34.11mattr2.6.10
03:34.14canllaithIf you look on k3b website there are some kernel versions they just don't recommend you use
03:34.27canllaithAh, that works ok here.
03:34.35cartel_Here too
03:34.38Bac9canllaith: is 2.6.10 one of them?
03:34.41MrGrimmattr: all the e-mail addresses for the starfire maintainer are dead
03:34.44MrGrimI can't locate him
03:34.50MrGrimso I sent it to lkml and linux-net
03:34.51canllaith2.6.10 works ok here
03:34.53mattri have 2.6.11 so you all suck, except canllaith
03:34.55cartel_MrGrim: he is probably dead
03:35.01canllaith:)
03:35.12MrGrimand nobody noticed it on lkml
03:35.12cartel_mattr: if you're lucky i nibble
03:35.18canllaithWhich reminds me, I should grab 11.6
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03:35.24mattrcartel_: hmm, yeah, a bit TMI
03:35.28cartel_im sure canllainth sucks given the opportunity
03:35.43mattrcartel_: but nice to know for girl you snag
03:35.58canllaithSomething you're extremely unlikely to ever know for sure there cartel_.
03:35.58cartel_mattr: ex-snag
03:36.18cartel_canllaith: hehe
03:36.37cartel_i would have to be the lowest of the low trolling for blowjobs on #kde on freenode
03:36.47Bac9mattr: I don't have space nor do I feel like sacrificing uptime to upgrade to 2.6.11, unless ofcoorse they fixed that X->console switch oops
03:37.01canllaithIndeed, given that there are 4 women regulars to 150~ men you might be surprised at who took you up on it too.
03:37.14cartel_hehe
03:37.20mattrahhahaha
03:37.29cartel_its funny, you can tell people  are pissed off by the fact they suddenly start Capitalising
03:37.48canllaithEither that or OCD
03:37.57mattrcapitalization sucks
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03:38.21cartel_so does capitalisation
03:38.42cartel_in fact capitalisation can suck my wang
03:38.42canllaithI'm inclined to feel capitalisation doesn't suck as badly as capitalization.
03:38.50mattrha!
03:38.54mattrtwo against one, we win
03:38.56mattr:)
03:39.12canllaithmmmm so what picture should I select for mattr
03:39.29cartel_canllaith: when the revolution comes you will surely be against the wall
03:39.32cartel_suck or no.
03:39.43mattreww, my hackergotchi is fuckin' ugly
03:39.44canllaithWith the rest of the mindless jerks ? :)
03:39.45mattri hate that thing
03:39.55mattrbut i also like
03:39.56mattrit
03:39.59cartel_canllaith: sure why not
03:40.00mattrbecause it's a hackergotchi
03:40.00canllaithmattr: hehehe so be nice to me baby or you find your way into documentation screenshots ;)
03:40.09slayerboblol
03:40.18mattrcanllaith: yeah, not worried about that, i'm always nice to you
03:40.20mattr:)
03:41.18cartel_oh boy
03:41.39cartel_inventing stuff to fill out my calendar at work
03:41.43scrooge0.o
03:41.44cartel_should put 8 hrs 'irc'
03:41.57scroogehey peeps :)
03:42.08canllaith'Technical support over a variety of electronic medium'
03:42.09mattrcartel: thursday: get blowjob, 1 hour. do irc. 4 hours. lunch 2 hours. sleep 1 hour
03:42.18canllaithAnswer the next newbies quesiton when they come in, and it's not even a lie.
03:42.34cartel_mattr: that would almost be my perfect thursday
03:42.43slayerboband if it was a gentoo newbie it might even take the full 8 hours to answer :P
03:42.56scrooge0.o
03:43.02cartel_.org*
03:43.04scroogeha
03:43.16scroogegentoo rice...lol booo
03:43.28scroogeok gentoo is starting to work my nerves >_<
03:43.34cartel_canllaith: i have a friendgirl in perth who uses ubuntu on her laptop
03:43.39scroogethey dont be updating package version bumps...wtf
03:43.49canllaithYup? :)
03:44.14canllaithoh, I can change the little folder icons on kopete buddy list
03:44.19canllaithoooh
03:44.29scroogeadd it to teh l337 faq!
03:44.50mattrhmm, even though i use gentoo, i don't suck
03:45.04canllaithKDE developer are automatically non sucking.
03:45.09scroogeheh
03:45.11mattrwhy don't i suck? because i control all your AIM and ICQ activities
03:45.26canllaithWell... except the good kind of sucking, after a few too many drinks at a conference.
03:45.27Bac9mattr: you still use oscar?
03:45.31mattryou want AIM and ICQ in kopete you gotta go through me baby, and i'll cut ya ass off. :)
03:45.37cartel_canllaith: TMI
03:45.42scroogehaha
03:45.48mattrcanllaith: we'll have to arrange that sometime. ;)
03:45.49scrooge0=)
03:45.51canllaithmattr: Well, or use jabber transports
03:45.54Bac9mattr: you mean oscar actually still works?
03:46.00cartel_whats the hookup rate at konference
03:46.03mattrcanllaith: jabber transports are teh suck ;)
03:46.06canllaithmattr: You sucking after a few too many drinks at a conference? ooh la lah, I'm telling your wife ;)
03:46.15mattrhmm....
03:46.17cartel_mattr: BUSTED
03:46.23canllaithAfterwards, of course. I wouldn't want to miss out :)
03:46.36cartel_vom
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03:46.56scroogeoh wait
03:46.59mattri've never been to a concert
03:46.59scroogemy pen fell
03:47.03mattrerr, conference
03:47.06scroogelooked like i was bowing i suppose :P
03:47.13canllaithmattr: We should hook up at not the next one, one after
03:47.17cartel_i imagine its terminally low
03:47.22canllaithI don't think I'll make it to the next one unless work pays
03:47.33mattrcartel_: actually, i know there's at least one person who always gets laid...
03:47.35canllaith... which they're hinting about
03:47.37cartel_seeing as there are very few women kde devels arent there? except in internationalisation
03:47.46mattrcanllaith: u should get them to pay for me too. :)
03:47.55canllaithcartel_: That implies every male KDE devel is straight. Which isn't the case :)
03:47.58mattrcanllaith: cause i don't think i'm going unless i can get somebody to help out a bit
03:48.10mattror i get really rich. :D
03:48.16mattrbeing rich would be nice
03:48.22mattrthat'd make me even cooler than i already am. :)
03:48.37cartel_man if i went to konference i wouldnt be trying to get laid, or if i was it wouldnt be with konference people... unless there are some really hot kde girls i dont know about :)
03:48.42canllaithmattr: Aw :( Well, we'll see. Maybe I can start the 'get mattr legless and into my hotel room with that other hot kopete developer' fund
03:48.43canllaithI mean uh
03:48.50canllaith'Get kopete developers to konference' fund
03:48.52canllaithYeah, that one.
03:48.52Bac9mattr: just drink some liquid ozone, that'd amke you real cool real fast
03:48.59mattrcanllaith: ROTFL
03:49.19canllaithcartel_: Sorry, hot KDE girls all want mattr, sredna and aseigo. You'll have to get in line.
03:50.05mattrthat's right
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03:51.34daumhey where do i set the arts system to true
03:51.38daumits in some file i forget where
03:51.43cartel_canllaith: are you a kde developer groupie?
03:51.48daumbut its because my sound system isn't making sound for my kde applicatoins
03:51.49scroogeheh
03:51.51canllaithNo, I'm a developer.
03:52.03mattrdaum: you're talking about overall, right?
03:52.07scroogecanllaith > *
03:52.10daumyeah
03:52.14mattrdaum: it's in the control center, under sound system
03:52.18daumnon no
03:52.18cartel_canllaith: what do you develop?
03:52.23daumi had this prob before
03:52.24scroogedam this dam bug
03:52.26daumthe sound system is on
03:52.30daumits like some config file
03:52.39mattrhmm
03:52.51mattrkcmartsrc maybe?
03:53.01canllaithI write lots of documentation and have some small hacking on Kicker. My name is on the 'about' box for 3.4.0 Kicker.
03:53.15cartel_canllaith: documentation is important :)
03:53.18canllaithCause I'm so special.
03:53.47scroogeheh
03:54.21daumknotifyrc
03:54.22daumbam
03:54.28mattryeah, that one
03:54.51cartel_canllaith: except there is no about box for kicker
03:54.54cartel_:)
03:55.00canllaithOf course not.
03:55.01slayerbobcartel_: of course there is
03:55.10canllaithThere isn't for every other KDE application either.
03:55.17canllaithIt's just a big scam, I admit it.
03:55.19cartel_how do you get to it?
03:55.27mattryou gotta be fuckin' l33t. ;)
03:55.28cartel_i just get kpanel about
03:55.32daumbrb
03:55.33canllaithHelp -> About KDE Panel
03:55.36cartel_i suppose i could use dcop
03:55.45mattrbrb. reboot
03:55.46mattrstupid box
03:56.07scroogeThnks to
03:56.08scrooge;)
03:56.10scrooge+a
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03:58.43canllaithwb mattr :)
03:58.49mattrthankies. :D
04:01.59canllaithYou were implementing buddy icon support for me in AIM
04:03.17mattryes, that'll take awhile
04:03.33mattrstupid asynchronousity issues
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04:06.32canllaithmattr: heh, has something in kopete broken the adium stylesheet code?
04:07.00scroogehaha BLAME MATTR
04:07.08scroogedam sorry, couldnt resist :)
04:07.18mattrcanllaith: not that i'm awareof
04:07.30mattrscrooge: :)
04:07.34scroogehaha
04:08.25canllaithIt is very nice.
04:09.49mattrof course it is, i made it. :D
04:09.55mattrhehe
04:10.02cartel_kdevelop rawx
04:11.17scrooge:P
04:11.21scroogeerhm
04:11.27scroogewow how'd i ge tot this tab :S
04:11.52cartel_scrooge: acid?
04:12.08mattrscrooge: magic
04:12.12mattrok, off to bed. night all
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04:12.30scroogelol
04:12.38scroogeTV DINNER :D
04:12.39cartel_mushroom mushroom!
04:12.45cartel_SNAKE SNAKE
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04:15.05meeperis this the developer's channel?
04:15.11scroogemaybe
04:15.16scroogewho wants to know o.0
04:15.17scroogehaha
04:15.22scrooge#kde-devel also exists
04:15.24meeperscrooge: wtf is wrong with you?
04:15.33scroogemeeper, was joking but ok...
04:15.38scroogewow you touchy
04:15.47scroogedont watch movies?
04:16.05meeperscrooge: you're weird
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04:16.10cartel_meeper: so are you
04:16.13scroogei'll take that as a compliment
04:16.19slayerbob:P
04:16.20scrooge^_^
04:16.24meepercartel_: no I'm 100% normal
04:16.36cartel_not with a nick like meeper you arent.
04:16.37cartel_meep meep!
04:16.39scroogeLOL
04:16.41scroogeroadrunner
04:16.52meepercartel_: christ, you're weird too
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04:17.07meeperare there any normal people here?
04:17.19marcusUNot me.
04:17.19cartel_meeper: a normal person uses windows
04:17.20cartel_so no
04:17.51scroogeLOL
04:18.12meeperI just wanted to know about kde java bindings
04:18.14marcusUI missed the first part of the story, though. `` are there any normal people here?'' sounds like something I'd hear in a dating channel.
04:18.29BamaJankThere are dating channels?
04:18.35BamaJank*shiver*
04:18.43marcusUProbably not on freenode.
04:18.49BamaJankI don't want to know what are on the opposing sides of the monitors....
04:18.59puetzkBamaJank: yes, but unfortunately they're full of KDE developers :-)
04:18.59BamaJankLOL yeah....I come here to pick up chicks....
04:19.01cartel_heh
04:19.05BamaJankLOL puetzk
04:19.08marcusUI'm just a big tar pit in reality.
04:19.25cartel_marcusU: you too?
04:19.33cartel_marcusU: cambrian or precambrian? :)
04:20.04marcusUBamaJank: You really should be more flexible about gender if you're going to insist on picking up people in geeky chat channels.
04:20.46cartel_i reckon
04:20.50cartel_thats what #teen is for
04:21.10BamaJankYou suggesting there are slim pickings, marcusU ? :-)
04:21.25BamaJank#teen?  on freenode?  LOL
04:21.36marcusUIf you're looking for females, yeah. Most of the people on freenode are heterosexual males.
04:21.47cartel_BamaJank: i meant on irc.othernetwork.com
04:21.53BamaJankLOL I wasn't looking, but it is quite humorous
04:22.26BamaJankbesides at 40 I might get busted....
04:22.47marcusUThere's someone older than me?
04:23.03BamaJankThere is always someone "older"...
04:24.32scroogeheh
04:24.54canllaithmarcusU: brucehoult is 42, and I think grepper is around there.
04:25.01canllaithLotsa people older than you.
04:25.15marcusUI didn't realize he was that old.
04:25.30cartel_its interesting that there arent more 60+ oss programmers
04:25.30Dhraakelliann
04:25.39Dhraakellianwrong window
04:25.57BamaJankThey all have the mouse to their ear cartel_ ...
04:26.18canllaithYup, and his stepdaughter isn't that much younger than I am (well, 8 years but that's much less than the 20 years between he and I)
04:27.45Bac9cartel_: alot of them seemed to GO SUB without RETURN :-)
04:28.09meeperwow, 40 must suck
04:28.18slayerbobwhy ?
04:28.22canllaithWhy would it suck any more than 20 ?
04:28.24slayerbobwhen i am 40 i will still be 21 :)
04:28.33sycoflyme too
04:28.45canllaithslayerbob: lol how many years have you been 21 now? 12? You're getting a lot of practice in =p
04:28.54slayerbobyuppers
04:29.05slayerbobi'm just starting to get good at being 21 now :P
04:30.46marcusUI might actually upgrade my PC soon. Wow.
04:31.35canllaithmarcusU: have you decided on what drives yet? :)
04:31.46cartel_slayerbob: do you celelbrate your 21st every year?
04:31.55slayerbobcartel_: darned straight
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04:32.13cartel_slayerbob: yard glass, hundred club or 21 spots?
04:32.15marcusUcanllaith: I'm not sure. I really want to wait for motherboards with SATA chipsets that support Native Command Queuing.
04:32.28canllaithmarcusU: ok :)
04:32.32slayerbobcartel_: i have no idea what any of those mean
04:32.48cartel_slayerbob: here in nz it is traditional to drink a yard glass of ale at 21
04:32.52puetzkslayerbob: it's ok, when we went out on my 21st I was the DD :-)
04:33.13cartel_some people do hundred club, which is 100 shots of beer in 100 minutes.. very difficult
04:33.21cartel_stoners do 21 spots back to back
04:33.22marcusUTexas is considering a law prohibiting bars from serving alcohol to people who are 21 until after 7 am of the day they turn 21.
04:33.23canllaithcartel_: erm, slayerbob is a kiwi
04:33.31puetzk(it was a friend's bachelor party too, so it only got weirder from there)
04:33.34cartel_oic
04:33.54cartel_marcusU: because people die trying to do the power hour
04:34.11marcusUcartel_: Eh, I still think it's stupid.
04:34.16marcusUBesides, it's really 2 hours.
04:34.28cartel_yeah, DYING from it is stupid
04:35.08marcusUI was reading an article about it in the newspaper, and someone was not telling the truth. The number of shots the person supposedly had did not match the BAC that was claimed.
04:35.30cartel_much higher?
04:35.44cartel_in all likelihood s/he was drinking for hours before getting to the bar.
04:35.45marcusUThe BAC was supposedly 0.045
04:36.05cartel_thats high
04:36.06marcusUYeah. What I'm saying is that you're not going to get to 0.045 very easily.
04:36.45marcusUThey're talking about 21 shots in an hour?
04:37.03cartel_21 shots of what? absinthe?
04:37.15marcusUProbably hard-liquor, generally 40% ethanol by volume in the US.
04:37.35slayerbobdo people drink shots of other things over there ?
04:38.03marcusUslayerbob: The most popular shots here are tequila or liqueurs.
04:38.09slayerbobmmmm tequila
04:38.12cartel_agavera :)
04:38.16marcusUTequila is typically 40%. Liqueurs are generally much lower, 20-40%.
04:38.23cartel_1800 :)
04:38.44marcusU21 shots of hard liquor is a *lot*, even by my standards.
04:38.51marcusU21 shots of liqueurs is not that much.
04:39.09slayerbob21 shots is what? 750ml or so ?
04:39.17marcusUA shot is 1.5 floz.
04:39.26marcusU21 shots is 31.5 floz.
04:39.51marcusU21 shots == 932 ml.
04:40.10slayerbobthat's more than i can drink without becoming ill
04:40.34marcusUI can drink about 20 floz of hard liquor without getting really sick.
04:40.56slayerbobi am fine so long as i don't mix the drinks :P
04:41.20BamaJankI managed a 5th once....and only once....
04:41.29marcusUThe thing is, my perceived degree of euphoria/intoxication is much more when I'm out in public than when I'm home alone.
04:41.44marcusUI've never really tried to drink a whole 5th.
04:42.28BamaJankWasn't a try, was a "did"....long, long ago...
04:42.47BamaJankI wasn't up to "trying", depressing episode occured
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04:43.01marcusUMy tolerance is very high. I did do 20 oz of rum once. I got so sick.
04:43.18BamaJankexactly marcusU , once....
04:43.29BamaJankAfter that I couldn't tolerate the smell of JD
04:44.25marcusUI never liked the brown liquors.
04:45.00marcusUI thought about writing a Qt/KDE app for computing various items related to alcohol consumption.
04:45.10slayerbob:P
04:45.11marcusUNow I'm on-topic. :-)
04:45.16BamaJank;-)
04:45.27slayerbobalcohol is always on topic in dev channels :P
04:45.29marcusUActually, I was thinking about that as a demo app for my project.
04:45.47marcusUSpeaking of which, my 6 floz of vodka is just kicking in.
04:46.15BamaJankfield study for your app?
04:47.08marcusUUh, yeah, sure.
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04:47.54marcusUSelect amount of beverage. Select %ethanol. Select "by mass/by volume". Select weight and gender. And there you go.
04:48.09slayerbobno no no
04:48.15slayerbobyou need far more options than that
04:48.22slayerboblike check boxes for nationality
04:48.36slayerbobor a drop down box
04:48.42slayerbobsince i guess everyone must be from somewhere
04:48.49marcusUNationality should just affect the metabolism, not the peak amount.
04:49.19slayerbobyeah but if the metabolism is higher then the peak amount will not be so high
04:49.42slayerbobbecause some of it will already be metabolised by the time the last drinks are being consumed
04:49.48marcusUIf you assume that all the drinks are taken at the same time and immediately absorbed, the peaks will be the same.
04:49.55slayerbobLOL
04:49.56marcusUBut yeah, some people are slow metabolizers.
04:50.04slayerbobso what you are saying is that you are a physicist ?
04:50.11slayerbob:P
04:50.49marcusUBut also, chronic drinkers metabolize alcohol much faster. For example, the CYP enzyme system does not normally work on alcohol much, but in chronic drinkers, it does.
04:51.17slayerbobthat was why i suggested the nationality :P
04:51.27slayerbobsince all nzers and australians are chronic drinkers :P
04:51.33slayerbobkoreans too from what i gather :P
04:51.46marcusUOrientals do not metabolize ethanol well.
04:52.05slayerbobi think you'll find that's just due to the huge amounts that they consume :P
04:52.11slayerbobprobably causes liver damage or something
04:52.46marcusUBut they seem to be deficient in a lot of enzymes, both the CYP (P450) and the ALD/ALDH.
04:52.51marcusUs/ALD/ADH/
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05:01.31cartel_marcusU: you should write a kde app that rates girls based on number of drinks before they are shaggable
05:01.47cartel_actually the bodyweight one would be useful
05:01.54marcusUcartel_: Uh, I'm quite unqualified to rate girls.
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05:02.03canllaithYes, since real men need to get girls drunk before they can get some.
05:02.51marcusUcanllaith: Hey, it also works with guys. Guys are a lot more likely to come home with me when they're drunk.
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05:03.15cuneythi.. where can i change kde theme ?
05:03.51scrooge?
05:03.59scroogeYes, since real men need to get girls drunk before they can get some.
05:03.59canllaithmarcusU: I know you better than that - I can't imagine you wanting to pick up a guy for a casual ...
05:04.06scroogerofl
05:04.16cuneyt..
05:04.28canllaithcuneyt: in Kcontrol
05:04.38scroogefirst tab
05:04.44scroogetheme manager
05:04.52marcusUcanllaith: I have taken men home, but it was more a desire to alleviate loneliness than anything. I mean, realistically, you're not going to get sex when both of you have been out drinkikng all night.
05:05.09scroogelies
05:05.11scroogeshit happens
05:05.13canllaithmarcusU: too true.
05:05.21scroogei seen movies man!
05:05.27scroogedharma and greg!
05:05.31r00tsh3llam i really reading this?
05:05.36r00tsh3llLOL
05:05.39scroogelol
05:05.47scroogeiunno wtf they talking bout :)
05:05.52scroogelike to bud in :D
05:06.46scroogeoh yes
05:06.47cuneytand where can i find good themes :)
05:06.53gcbirzanGoogle.
05:06.56strawthe '70s featured some bad outfits...
05:07.00scroogekde-look.org
05:07.03scroogebrb...UT match
05:07.09scroogepeople think they can beat me...HA!
05:07.23DhraakellianUnreal Tournament and be right back?
05:07.24Dhraakellianheh
05:07.28canllaiththe 80's were worse =p
05:07.36scroogeUT2k4!
05:07.39Dhraakellianmust be really good, really bad, or only marginally interested
05:07.48Dhraakellianor something
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05:08.25canllaithAh. Scary costumes.
05:08.59Dave321I have keychain set up but KWallet (in KDE 3.4) still prompts for my ssh passwords on EVERY FILE ACCESS!  Annoying!  How can I get rid of these annoying password prompts?
05:09.05strawyeah, it's the dfinition of campy
05:09.41r00tsh3llwill the taskbar v2 be part of kde 4?
05:10.03Dhraakelliandidn't it get merged back in as of 3.4?
05:10.15canllaithI don't think it can be actually
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05:10.23r00tsh3llwhy?
05:10.30canllaithIt violates licenses......
05:10.52canllaithThe person who made it stuffed up basically
05:10.53r00tsh3lllike kopete and others?
05:11.05canllaithNo, as in the person took code from kicker, removed all the copyright information etc
05:11.12canllaiththey violated the gpl
05:11.15strawlame
05:11.50strawi guess some people just don't get it
05:12.41strawnot about licensing, but just respecting someone's hard work :/
05:12.57canllaithYeah, that kinda sucks.
05:13.04canllaithYou gotta give credit where it's due.
05:13.32cuneytwhich file i'll select on theme manages ?
05:13.36cuneytmanager*
05:13.37strawanyway, Steve's in a ghost town wearing some bad pants :)
05:14.11Dhraakellianis it possible to tell when the code was taken and see whose kicker code it was?
05:14.54canllaithhahah here it is
05:14.57canllaithhttp://aseigo.blogspot.com/2004/11/if-you-are-too-stupid-to-understand.html
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05:15.55canllaithso what that all comes down to is
05:16.05r00tsh3lltaskbar developers should just implement those features..
05:16.09canllaithtaskbarv2 can't be merged back, because the author did a god awful hack job.
05:16.14r00tsh3llthey're nice anyways..
05:16.32canllaithWell, if he wants to do it and has the time and the incentive sure I bet  he will.
05:17.48cartel_hahaha
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05:24.45r00tsh3llThis post has been removed by a blog administrator.  /me should give one finger to see that
05:26.15marcusUHi canllaith
05:26.23r00tsh3ll02:30am -.- good night all.
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05:54.22kendrickcruuuud
05:54.27kendrickwhere does kwallet keep its passwords?
05:54.44kendricki apparently did not copy it from my backup .kde folder when i upgraded
05:55.44chakiekendrick: maybe .kde/share/apps/kwallet/kdewallet.kwl
05:55.53kendrickyeah, i moved that
05:55.55chakiethat's a binary file
05:56.11kendrick-rw-r--r--  1 kendrick kendrick 34248 2005-04-06 00:52 kdewallet.kwl
05:56.19kendrickbut when i run kwalletmanager, it shows no wallets
05:56.26kendrickand konq isn't filling in passwords for sites any more
05:56.27chakiei have no other files the look like passwords
05:56.30kendrickand i can't seem to do ANYTHING in kopete :^/
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05:57.44kendricki was able to log into something yesterday
05:57.45kendrickhrm
05:58.11chakiei have a few other settings files, but nothing with passwords in it
05:58.44kendrickit's as though konq isn't talking to kwallet at all
05:59.08chakieis kwallet enabled?
05:59.51chakiei'd say it happily ignores all passwords if it's not
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06:02.27kendrickcool that did it ;)
06:03.18cartel_kendrick: i imagine the wallets cant be copied from machine to machine
06:03.27kendrickit's the same machine :)
06:03.35kendricki just upgraded to kde 3.4 (alioth.debian)
06:03.35cartel_but you upgraded :)
06:03.57cartel_woot
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06:07.08chakiekendrick: you maybe didn't get the kwalletrc file which says if kwallet is enabled or not
06:07.22kendricknah, i copied that, too
06:07.44kendrickthen things started not working ;)
06:07.49kendrickso i just restarted KDE and all seems well
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06:20.40hutzekpdf shows the whole path to the pdf-file in the title. kpdf running inside of konqueror shows only the file-name. can i tell kpdf to only show the title as well ?
06:21.14hutzei mean "can i tell kpdf to only show the file-name in the title as well"
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06:35.19cruzwhere do you set up a vnc server in kde? its built in somewhere isnt it?
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06:50.11scroogecruz, yes
06:50.24scroogekrfb and krdc i think it is
06:50.50scroogelatter is the client
06:50.56scroogeyep
06:51.02scroogekrfb is server, krdc is client
06:52.01cruzyeah i found it
06:52.01cruzthanks
06:52.02cruz:)
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06:52.29scroogemm-k come again
06:52.32scrooge? heh
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06:57.21hutzeis there a switch for konqueror so i can open a file in konqueror in a new tab?
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06:57.43hutzelike konqueror --new-tab file.pdf ?
06:58.16hutzekonqueror --help-all doesnt show anything, so i guess not.
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07:00.02scroogemaybe dcop?
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07:18.39illogic-alI have returned!
07:18.53illogic-alI actually got some studying done tonight.
07:19.14illogic-aland i even snuck some exercises in between (if pushups still count)
07:19.46illogic-alone more problem and this practice test'll be done and "YAY!" i'll be ready for my test
07:20.37illogic-ali can feel the nerdiness taking over again.   teh awesome!
07:21.03illogic-ali wonder if anyone is actually watching me talk to myself?
07:21.27illogic-alwould be quite embarassing to see screenshots of this pop up somewhere.
07:21.56illogic-aljesus rulz!
07:22.02illogic-alhe saves too.
07:22.36illogic-alTHE CHRISTIAN HAS TAKEN OVER #KDE
07:22.42illogic-alTRALALALALALA
07:23.04illogic-ali actually learned a bible verse today.
07:23.16illogic-alit's been a while since i've done that.
07:23.52illogic-alfelt... oddly rewarding... even though i can no longer recall this supposedly memorized verse
07:24.10illogic-al1st corinthians 12:6 though. i remember that much :-)
07:24.39illogic-albah. i'll leave #kde to its sleep.
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07:40.57callipygousdoes anybody here have problems getting webpages to render correctly on konqueror, but have no troubles with opera, firefox etc?
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07:43.11termocallipygous: yep, everybody has that sometimes
07:43.36termocallipygous: but not with every page
07:44.17callipygousyeah
07:44.30callipygousseems to be with a lot of table use
07:45.35termocan you give an example?
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07:47.29callipygousnah, not really atm
07:47.36callipygousim sick, brb
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07:48.52illogic-alwb sarah03
07:49.08sarah03:)
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07:51.20illogic-allol
07:52.15sarah03nn & such then :)
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08:08.33DhraakellianI would just like to state once again that I really don't like the way kmail can't remember my passwords between sessions
08:08.41slayerboblol
08:08.50slayerbobit remembers my passwords just fine
08:09.11DhraakellianI have to type them in each time I restart kmail
08:09.33Dhraakellianafter the first check of the session, it remembers them until I quit
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08:26.20termoot: hey, I thought april fools day was only on the 1st of april... http://tinyurl.com/44h4z
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08:38.50nixboxhi all
08:38.57nixboxi connect to my server using ssh, i want that the pwd should be displayed in the konsole title ... what should i do? Note that the pwd should be that of the server and should update whenever i change to another directory.
08:41.08nixboxanother problem is that, when i ssh into my server using konsole, i have to set the erase key to ^?, the default one, however is ^H and always works with other window managers such as IceWm, whats the problem with konsole, in both cases (IceWm and KDE) the TERM environment variable is set to xterm.
08:42.50termonixbox: create alias ssh / cd, and run it through a script that does so
08:43.12termooh
08:43.27nixboxdidnt get what you said
08:43.35termowell
08:44.30termoif you create an alias for ssh (alias ssh="/dir/myscript $*" (or something like that))
08:44.42termoyou can myscript
08:44.55termoand do the neccesary stuff
08:45.13termo+create somewhere
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08:46.45nixboxbut if i create a script, i will first have to establish the ssh session right? the script wont return from that unless the session is terminated and no lines following the ssh connection command would be executed
08:47.05nixboxthe script would contain the ssh connection command ...
08:47.19termohmm
08:48.13termoif you need info from the server you will have to program some client-server thing to pass info
08:48.39nixboxyup thats what i thought
08:48.56nixboxi just wanted to ask here because i thought there might already be some hack for it :)
08:49.42termowell, off course you could do it the dirty way, and misuse some existing connections, like a mounted dir or something
08:50.17termoe-mail :P
08:50.19nixboxyeah but i dont want that :P
08:50.40nixboxby the way couldn't this be one of the konsole features?
08:50.58termonope
08:51.05nixboxwhy?
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08:51.36canllaithlook up stty
08:51.41termobecause console can't detect if you're ssh'ing or anything, it's just a terminal emulator
08:51.49canllaithand there is absolutely no harm in filing a wish about it
08:51.55canllaithstty is prolly going to be your best bet though
08:58.47termonixbox: if the server is running an X-server, you could start konsole remotely
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08:58.59termothen there's no problem
08:59.44termouh
08:59.53termoit needs no X-server
09:00.02termoit just needs konsole+deps installed
09:00.13termowell, you get it I guess...
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09:17.19[_]illogic-alah. another blog sucessfully wordpressed.
09:17.36[_]illogic-alhttp://illogic-al.org <---- SPAAAAAAAAM
09:17.39scroogeo.0
09:17.42scroogelol'
09:17.57scroogemwahahaha
09:18.08scroogedidnt u have one?
09:18.12katya!!! "Today, I've finally embraced Gnome... It's so cool.." <- WHATS THIS!(&!*&???
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09:18.20katya:>
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09:18.52[_]illogic-alkatya: now that was jsut mena
09:18.53scroogeOMFG BLASPHEMY
09:19.00[_]illogic-al*mean
09:19.05[_]illogic-al:-p
09:19.07katyahow did you get my email address :<
09:19.11scroogelol
09:19.12[_]illogic-allmao
09:19.17scroogehax0red
09:19.25katya<- prawned
09:19.27[_]illogic-ali'm 3l173
09:19.38katyawith a capitol '3'
09:19.44scrooge:P
09:19.47[_]illogic-al31!73 even
09:20.31katyayeah i get like, a billion spams a day
09:20.40katyai lack the equipment for 'male enhancement' to begin with
09:20.44katyatalk about poor targetting.
09:21.40katyaH1 Larisa *****, W0Ul> y0U L1k3 4 81GG3R R0D?!  (yes)  TH3N BUUYY N0W!
09:21.55katyasome of them don't even have a product
09:22.07katyathey just hope you randomly send them money for spewing crap into an email
09:22.13slayerboblol
09:22.14katyacongrats on getting past the mail filter... but...
09:22.32slayerbobi get lots of spam that complain that my email client won't run their attached virus thingo
09:22.39katyayeah, bang on
09:22.58katyaor one saying "Get an HTML capable E-Mail client."
09:23.04slayerbobthat's the one
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09:23.15slayerbobwell... "Get a capable email client" is what i get
09:23.22katyaright, there you go
09:23.28canllaithIt makes me tempted to use pine forever.
09:23.35scroogepinesol?
09:23.42katyakontact turns me on though
09:23.54scroogeomg hold all jizzes for #gnome
09:23.55katyaand so far, so good, no kernel32.dll viruses yet
09:24.03katyalets go troll in #gnome!
09:24.07katya1.20 is out!
09:24.13canllaithLets not. Then they come here and troll back
09:24.13katyaand it's just as lame as whatever was before it! :D
09:24.15scroogelol
09:24.20scroogestealth
09:24.23katyayeah, let's not try to teach the masters...
09:24.23canllaithand I'm using the Russian-roulette of IRC clients.
09:24.28scroogehaha
09:24.31slayerbobkopete ?
09:24.32katyaksirc?
09:24.34canllaithIt does random banning
09:24.39slayerbobohhh
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09:24.44katya:O
09:24.45canllaithYou right click on a name and go 'ban'
09:24.47slayerbobthat's ok though - it only bans kde devs :P
09:24.54canllaithand fuck me if it doesn't select someone totally at random
09:25.00katyai stopped using konversation the same day my shrink said i could stop taking my medication
09:25.01scroogeerhm
09:25.08scroogehaha
09:25.10scroogekonvi?
09:25.26katyawell, i liked it anyway
09:25.29canllaithSo gnomey trolls are not a good idea.
09:25.32katyait crashed though, so i made the switch
09:25.50canllaithIt's nice and stable here, just that one annoyance
09:25.51katyafrequently :<
09:25.51scroogei tried gnome 2.10 for 8.36 sceonds
09:25.55canllaithand not a feature I use terribly often.
09:26.02canllaithscrooge: oooh do tell.
09:26.04katyascrooge: me too, when i installed ubuntu :D
09:26.07scroogelol
09:26.09katyawhile kde was installing
09:26.10scroogecanllaith, oh yea
09:26.14scroogei logged inb
09:26.16scroogelooked around
09:26.21katyait was great, all the icons were empty pages
09:26.24scroogewas like "wtf? wheres all the shit?"
09:26.28scroogeand loaded back kde...rofl
09:26.33katyathe mp3 player crashed too :D
09:26.36scroogelol
09:26.41katyadidn't make it through a single song :(
09:26.55katyafresh install too, i swear :/
09:26.55[_]illogic-alscrooge: all the "stuff" is bloat
09:26.59[_]illogic-also they got rid of it
09:27.08scroogehaha
09:27.18katyai wonder when they'll whip up a Gnome KIO slave
09:27.18scroogei had a bar with a foot
09:27.19canllaithIcons are bloat! :P Empty pages are much more usable
09:27.20scroogeand thats about it
09:27.24scrooge:P
09:27.25katyai want gnome to be my slave!
09:27.42canllaithThat way users don't have to worry about all the different pictures. They just have a single consistant interface to their clickage.
09:27.49katya...actually, i have no motivation to run anything gnome related...
09:28.02katyayes, and a very grey one at that :P
09:28.07[_]illogic-alkatya: on the 5th of never.
09:28.11[_]illogic-alit's almost here
09:28.22katyaoctember the 32nd?
09:28.36[_]illogic-alneverember the 5th
09:28.44[_]illogic-alweren't you listening? :-p
09:28.55katyasounds like the debian sarge release date :x
09:29.01[_]illogic-allol
09:29.29katyacanllaith: i actually like the default keramik for some reason
09:29.31[_]illogic-ali should reeeeeally go to sleep now
09:29.36scroogeo.0
09:29.39katyaohhh, it's only 2:30 :D
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09:29.43slayerbob[_]illogic-al: IRC > sleep
09:29.45scrooge5:30am here :S
09:29.48canllaithhttp://www.hoult.org/~canllaith/foo/screenshots/kmenu-mod.png
09:29.51[_]illogic-al5:33 here
09:29.52scroogesl33p is for teh weeekkk
09:29.55katyabed!
09:29.56[_]illogic-alscrooge: lol
09:30.07scrooge:P
09:30.12scrooge[_]illogic-al, EDT here :D
09:30.12[_]illogic-aland you know, you're rigt :-)
09:30.19katyait's convenient for me, it's like.. a meter away :D
09:30.31katyaoooh nice
09:30.38katyaSF Technoremix
09:30.41katyaamarok
09:30.46katyalooks like my desktop :x
09:30.59canllaithI really like amaroK atm
09:31.00scroogelol
09:31.13katyayeah, it's my new love
09:31.18scroogecanllaith, omg u h4x0r
09:31.19canllaithhttp://www.hoult.org/~canllaith/foo/ipod5.png
09:31.27scroogekopete can look like that? lol
09:31.28katyai love the osd and album covers, and the scrobbler suggestions...
09:31.31canllaitherm?
09:31.51canllaithoh right
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09:32.05[_]illogic-alcanllaith: all you had to do was plug it in to usb port?
09:32.10scroogeaww man. i need to hack my mnidisc
09:32.14scroogeminidisc^^
09:32.30canllaith[_]illogic-al: recompiled kernel with hfsplus support, set up a udev rule to give me nice persistant naming with /dev/iPod
09:32.36canllaithcreated /mnt/ipod, started amaroK
09:32.42[_]illogic-alahh
09:32.45canllaithIf you used a distro other than slackare, yes you'd just plug the damn thing in :)
09:32.48[_]illogic-also it requires work
09:32.51[_]illogic-alblah
09:32.54canllaithsuse/mandrake/fedora/ubuntu all have hfsplus support by default
09:33.04[_]illogic-alyay
09:33.53canllaithscrooge: http://features.physos.net/im.php
09:34.04[_]illogic-alfor some reason i just feel like shouting BSD 4 LIFE
09:34.12[_]illogic-albut i won't do that }:-)
09:34.14scroogecuz u crazy?
09:34.16scrooge:P
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09:34.43katyahttp://24.70.236.165/snapshot1.png
09:34.44[_]illogic-albah. i'm gone. sleepage
09:34.46katya:D
09:34.57scroogecanllaith, omg...you know too many tricks!!!1
09:35.16canllaithI need to finish writing up that kopete section and the kpdf one
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09:35.54canllaithmmm yes, some good stuff there.
09:36.04canllaithMost written by physos.
09:36.10wrsHi everybody
09:36.16canllaithAha! I knew I had another one like that
09:36.23scroogelol
09:37.13SchopfeRkatya -> :x
09:37.57canllaith:) That's really nice looking keramik.
09:38.45katyawellllll it's stock
09:38.56katyaexcept the pinkness
09:39.16katyaactually, that's just kvirc
09:39.19canllaithI can't help myself. I have to download stuff from kde-look
09:39.31slayerbobi just have magic pixies :)
09:39.38canllaithlol!
09:39.39katyado i have my little remmon on there?
09:39.48canllaithspeaking of, magic pixies need to go cvs up......
09:39.50katyai can't remember now
09:40.18katyaa little remote-wifi monitoring kde app i made :D
09:40.23katyain gambas, but still...
09:40.32katyaoooh it is on there :D
09:40.44katya-88dBm, yay signal.
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09:41.31scroogekatya, !!! whats that thingie at the bottom in the systray that says c#?
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09:42.17ExElNeThmm i cant get the mic of my usb headset working with teamspeak ... is there something else i should do with arts? i tried artsd -D hw:1,0 and artsdsp -m TeamSpeak   any idea?
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09:42.28katyascrooge: kvirc :P
09:42.32scrooge:O
09:42.33katyaconnected : channel activity
09:42.40scroogeahh
09:42.56katya[_]illogic-al: i commented :x  on your klog
09:43.10katyascrooge: the new Realia is out ;)
09:43.28scroogewahhh?
09:43.45katyaExElNeT: it should be set for full duplex
09:43.57katyaExElNeT: then artsdsp should suffice
09:44.05ExElNeTkatya: ah k
09:44.54katyaand by 'should' i mean 'might'
09:45.22katyawhat game?
09:45.24katyaET? :>
09:45.43ExElNeTkatya: unable to set channels with artsd -d -D hw:1,0
09:46.00ExElNeTkatya: teamspeak ....
09:46.02katyaExElNeT: oss?
09:46.04scroogekrdc r0x0rz
09:46.10ExElNeTkatya: alsa
09:46.16katyai know, but usually that works in conjunction with a game of some kind
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09:46.38katyai don't know about duplex on commandline, i set that in the sound settings in control centre
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09:47.24ExElNeTkatya: hehe yes the goal is to get wow and teamspeak together
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09:47.50katya!!
09:47.54katyathat runs in linux?
09:47.57katyaunder whine?
09:48.42SchopfeRwine*
09:48.48ExElNeTyes quite nice
09:48.52katyawhine*
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09:48.57SchopfeRwhine ?
09:49.03katyaaffirmative
09:49.13SchopfeR:/
09:49.26SchopfeRwhat is whine ?
09:49.59katyaWinHandicap Impersonator for Noob Environment
09:50.21katyaor WOW Emulator... :D
09:50.57scroogelol
09:51.10katyai'm not a wine lover :/
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09:51.29canllaithAs in, you don't like a nice glass of shiraz?
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09:51.37lytebeat ya Tidus
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09:51.50Tiduslyte: wasn't racing ya :)
09:51.58slayerbobmmmm shiraz
09:52.04scroogeshiraz? :S
09:52.08lyteTidus: a likely storey :p
09:52.09katyareally, i don't really like wine...
09:52.17katyabrandy, gin, rum... not wine :\
09:52.20canllaithscrooge: red wine. A very nice red wine.
09:52.23scroogeahh
09:52.27canllaithslayerbob: oh GOD you're not drinking the stroh are you???
09:52.32slayerbobum no
09:52.44lyteyer shiraz is good...i don't even like most wine
09:52.50canllaithI bet it was dave's idea
09:52.53slayerbob:P
09:52.54Tidusheh....
09:53.04slayerbobit actually goes really well with beer
09:53.05Tidusslayerbob: we all know you did it / were drinking it / whatever :)
09:53.20slayerbobquite surprising considering that both beer and stroh are disgusting individually
09:53.26canllaithYuck.
09:53.27slayerbobbut they go together kinda well :P
09:53.44slayerbobLOL
09:54.47canllaithhttp://www.ubersoft.net/d/19970809.html
09:55.06canllaithslayerbob: sound familiar? "We need to grab the ios from your website but we don't have a login and password"
09:55.10canllaith"Just log in to the website.........."
09:55.16slayerbobLOL
09:55.20scroogehaha
09:55.50slayerbobdammit now i need another drink
09:55.50canllaithHave you noticed ndiswrapper read me now says 'Please go to the ndiswrapper website' ?
09:55.54canllaithThat's all it says.
09:55.56slayerbobLOL
09:55.59slayerbobyeah i noticed that
09:56.05scroogeeh heh
09:56.06slayerbobdamned lazy of them :P
09:56.08canllaithI mean, I don't have a working *NETWORK CARD* but I'm going to go to their website. Yay.
09:56.12scroogeisnt that STUPID!
09:56.13scroogeyea
09:56.16scroogelmfao
09:56.26Tidusndiswrapper is an evil, albeit a necessary one for a lot of people.
09:56.30katyahasn't it been that way for a while?
09:56.30slayerbobcanllaith: well surely there aren't any people who only have one computer now ?
09:56.38katyaTidus: yeah, me included :<
09:56.59Tidussnugglemonkey too, but he's not here
09:57.11katyaslayerbob: or vga/ps2/usb ports on their dinky dsl router.. at LEAST... and lynx on it...
09:57.14canllaithslayerbob: lol well, you remember the saga. 2 pcs with networking & cd drives no floppy, one pc with no networking and only a floppy
09:57.22slayerbobLOL
09:57.35katyacanllaith: we've all been there :D
09:57.45slayerbobno i was thinking of having to yell at cisco for something like 20 hours over the course of a couple of weeks
09:57.48canllaithUntil I decided to look up this onboard ethernet chipset I have never used and discover it can netboot. Thank god.
09:57.52canllaithslayerbob: hahaha um yes
09:57.56slayerbobjust to get an IOS that should have been included with the router in the first place :S
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09:58.39canllaithkatya: the day started like this: http://www.hoult.org/~canllaith/foo/screenshots/amoeba-crushed.png
09:58.51slayerbobLOL @ "perceived service"
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09:59.23canllaithFor those who aren't terribly observant, look very closely at not just the filesystem type but also the start/end for those parttions
09:59.26canllaithpartitions**
09:59.39slayerbobah i remember that one :P
09:59.52slayerbobgotta love windows fdisk :)
10:00.15Tiduscanllaith: oops :)
10:00.47canllaithIndeed. Smack the man who made me do it.
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10:00.59canllaithI could have used any software that would run on linux
10:01.02canllaithmacox or macos9
10:01.07canllaithNo, he wants windows.
10:01.14canllaithslayerbob: nooooooo Russell not you
10:01.19slayerboboh ok :P
10:01.33slayerbobit  sounded like something i would have told you to do though :P
10:01.55slayerbobactually i think i told you to check the partition table in linux before formatting the disk after fdisking it :P
10:02.09canllaithYes
10:02.20canllaithThe main problem was not having anything to boot from apart from IDE disk.
10:02.38katya:x
10:02.42katyahda4... lol
10:04.11Tidusi've been left with a system that could only boot from the floppy once...
10:04.23canllaithThat doesn't help if you have no floppy
10:04.45Tidusit had HDs in it and the bios detected them, as well as the cd drive, but for some reason, no matter how i set the boot order, it would only boot from the fsking flopy drive
10:05.26Tidusout comes the debian install set.
10:05.33Tidusfixed fdisk pretty quickly
10:06.20Tiduserr... fixed IT
10:06.26Tidusi can't type.
10:06.30Tidusi'm tired and hungry :(
10:06.38katyaeverytime i run this gambas app... my kicker crashes :x
10:06.44canllaithoooh lindaur brut
10:06.59Tiduscanllaith: ?
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10:07.21katyaor... it just crashes :x
10:07.35canllaithhttp://www.adwnz.com/Pages/wines/our_wines/lindauer_brut.html
10:08.16katyablech!
10:08.18slayerbobyou have lindauer ?
10:08.20slayerbobawww :(
10:08.58canllaitha case of brut
10:09.01canllaithand a case of sec
10:09.02slayerboba case ?
10:09.05slayerbob:(
10:09.06canllaithaye
10:09.14slayerbobman :(
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10:10.44Tiduscanllaith: and as soon as you sent that... my internet died.
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10:13.47SchopfeRarg :x
10:13.57SchopfeRI got Windows taskbar working
10:16.18SchopfeRhttp://users.swing.be/joey-salberter/cxoffice-explorer.png
10:17.03Sirusman I can't get nx to work for nothing
10:17.30TidusSirus: join the club.  
10:17.51Sirus:(
10:17.52Tidusi don't know if we have jackets or not though
10:18.07SirusI guess vnc isn't for me ;/
10:18.20TidusSirus: just ssh into the box and type vncserver
10:18.32Tidusthen connect to the box with display :!
10:18.36Tidus:1  rather
10:18.39scroogeBOOOOOO
10:18.40Tidusssh tunneling isn't that hard.
10:18.45scroogeuse krfb and krdc
10:18.55Tidusscrooge: i'm listing the method i use.
10:19.11Tidusand yes, i do use krdc as my vnc client, thank you
10:19.13scroogeTidus, im suggesting kde ways since this is #kde :)
10:19.14Siruskrfb (it maaaakkkkesss meeee type liiiiikkkkkeee this) ;/
10:19.17scroogehaha
10:19.27scroogeSirus, same here!!
10:19.41Tiduskrfb is t3h slow?
10:19.41scroogepressing g once == ggggggg
10:19.46scroogebackspace works tho :P
10:19.58SirusTidus: yes
10:20.07Tidusthat's why i use tightvnc :P
10:20.19scroogeblahh!
10:20.24Sirusssh tunneling hrmm
10:20.27Tidushardly use it though.  it IS my slackware server that this is on.
10:20.58TidusSirus: you'll have to do a 'man ssh' to figure it out though.  i use PuTTY to set up the tunnel
10:21.11Tidus(yes, they made PuTTY for unix too)
10:21.23Sirusnice...
10:21.41SirusWill this allow me to connect to an actuall display?
10:21.47Tidusyes.
10:21.51Tidushere's how to do it :P
10:22.02Tidushttp://tidus.alive-awake.com/screenshots/vnchowto.jpg
10:22.09Tidusit's a jpeg howto :P
10:22.39Tidusjust hope i didn't type an address that leads to a 404
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10:23.38Sirushrmm
10:23.48SirusI guess I need to install openssh first
10:24.02TidusSirus: PuTTY handles its own ssh AFAIK
10:24.26SirusI have to ssh into the box right?
10:24.36TidusPuTTY is an ssh client
10:24.55Tidusit'll allow you into the box.
10:25.11SirusI know.. but I'm not running sshd on this box. don't I need the server too?
10:25.25Tidusoh, true...
10:25.28Tiduswait.
10:25.31Tiduswhich box are you talking about?
10:25.38Sirusthis box
10:25.47Sirusthe one I'm chatting on
10:25.49Tidusthe vnc server will need the ssh server, yes.  the client doesn't need sshd running... maybe not even installed.
10:26.24SirusTidus: shall I install openssh?
10:26.41Tidusi would, to be on the safe side... should have been installed with the default install options for your distro
10:26.48Tidusunless you're running bsd or something
10:26.50Tidusthen i have no clue.
10:27.19TidusSirus: part of the base system, i'm afraid
10:27.21Tidusi use gentoo also
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10:27.42Tidusemerge system grabbed the ssh server
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10:28.31SirusOk cool so I dont need to install ssh
10:28.42Sirusdo I need to configure the sshd_config for the tunnel?
10:28.55Tiduswell, type ssh <other box's ip address> from the cmdline and see if it works
10:29.10Sirusit does
10:29.10Tidusor, just type /etc/init.d/sshd start from the cmdline as root and see if ssh starts
10:29.20SirusI connect to my other server all the tome
10:29.22Sirustime*
10:29.29TidusSirus: now, do an ssh -?
10:29.50Tiduswait.  wrong cmd.
10:30.01Tidusssh -v
10:30.20Tidusyou should see the openssh version and the date it was released.
10:30.42SirusOpenSSH_3.9p1, OpenSSL 0.9.7e 25 Oct 2004
10:30.55TidusSirus: and no, you won't need to configure the sshd_config for the tunnel
10:31.03TidusPuTTY will handle saving that stuff.  just follow my howto
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10:31.33Sirusthe pic is kinda blurry to me can't see it really
10:31.42Tidusblurry?
10:32.09Tidusdid you stop the picture before it was completely loaded?  it IS a progressive jpeg.
10:32.24Tidusit shows up just fine here
10:32.42Tidusor if you're using firefox, just click on the picture to bring it to full size.
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10:33.09SirusI see it
10:33.23Tidusjust emerge putty :P
10:33.28Sirusyep
10:33.40SirusIs this pretty secure?
10:33.52Tidussending all data through an sshv2 tunnel?
10:33.57SirusTidus: even still I need to get nx running
10:34.03SirusTidus: yeah
10:34.24katyaSchopfeR: sicko :/
10:34.34SchopfeRwhat ?
10:34.48katyawindows taskbar...
10:35.17TidusSirus: it uses AES (sshv2 only) then if that's not available, it switches to blowfish and if that's not available, it uses 3DES
10:35.33Sirusahh ok..
10:35.39SchopfeRI think Windows Taskbar is really better than KDE one
10:35.44SirusTidus: so how do I get the nx portion running?
10:35.47Tidusall the data sent through this tunnel is encrypted with one of those 3 algorithms
10:35.50SchopfeR:P
10:35.57TidusSirus: ask snugglemonkey if / when he shows up here
10:36.02Tidushe finally got it working
10:36.14Sirushrmm
10:36.43SirusTidus: do you run that software aswell
10:36.48TidusSirus: ?
10:36.53TidusSirus: which software?
10:36.59Sirusnx
10:37.10Tidusi run the NX client to connect to snugglemonkey's machine :P
10:37.27Siruslol
10:37.50Tidusbut nah, i'm not gonna waste my time installing NX on an old K6-2 fileserver...
10:37.56Tidusi'll just use VNC if i need X on it
10:38.39Sirushrmm wow the service finally started
10:38.46Sirusnot listing on a port tho
10:38.58TidusSirus: ?
10:39.08Tiduswhat service did you start?
10:39.10Sirusnx again I'm talking about
10:39.12Tiduso
10:40.09TidusSirus: and in that screenshot, NO i didn't gimp together 2 different screenshots and draw on the result.  that's actually a screenshot.  i have dual monitors :)
10:40.58Sirussweet
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10:41.43Tidustake the filename off of the address and you can see a folder full of mine.  i've set that folder browseable
10:41.51canllaitherg.
10:41.59willwork4foolo canllaith
10:42.02canllaithkconfig_compiler: ERROR: The name 'SidePaneShowText' is not unique.
10:42.05canllaithUllo willwork4foo
10:42.13willwork4foosounds like you are having oodles of fun
10:42.47willwork4foocan I get some help with a simple bash script I'm trying to write?
10:42.50willwork4foo:)
10:42.58Sirushrmm
10:43.01canllaithWhy are you in #kde askin about bash scripts ?:P
10:43.15willwork4foogood point.
10:43.19willwork4fooI'll shut up
10:43.21willwork4foo:)
10:43.22canllaith:P
10:47.49Sirusto bad realvnc needs a key
10:47.51Sirus;/
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10:49.32willwork4fooquick scripting question... I am trying to think of a way to go about this task... I have a big list (2,140) of hostnames on my company network, each of which I need to obtain the IP address for. The list is in a standard text file, with one hostname per line and nothing else in there. Can anyone point me in the right direction? I've been fooling around trying to use nslookup and grepping the outcome, but tna so far
10:49.37willwork4foo:)
10:50.04TidusSirus: it does?
10:50.11TidusSirus: meh, i use tightvnc anyway
10:50.23willwork4fooSirus: tightvnc is better imho
10:50.25willwork4fooand free
10:50.53SirusTidus: perhaps you can help me with tightvnc then? because when I tried it all I got was a shell prompt
10:51.04Sirusatleast it worked
10:51.14Tidusemerge tightvnc-server i believe.
10:51.17Sirusthese others I have a hard time getting it started
10:51.47Tidusif that package exists, grab it, then that'll let the standard vncserver command work
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10:52.12Sirusemerge tightvnc
10:52.13Tidustightvnc is what my server uses, and well, you see the output of the ssh session in that howto
10:52.59Sirushopefully its fast & secure aswell (aannnnnddd wonnnnt maaakeee me typppe like thiiiis)
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10:53.02Sirusheh
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10:53.18Tidusvnc by nature isn't secure, so that's why i'm having you tunnel it :P
10:53.20devurandomHi!
10:53.30SirusTidus: ahhh
10:53.30katyaperl?
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10:54.03devurandomHow can I edit the protocol settings in konqueror? (Everytime I want to follow an ed2k:// link Konqueror tells me that this is insecure.)
10:54.18katyait is! :P
10:54.23Sirusthen perhaps I can use the nxclient to connect to the diffrent boxes
10:54.54TidusSirus: you'd have to also have the NX server installed and running if you want to secure it that way
10:55.22Tidusinstalled and running on all of those diffrent boxes
10:55.23Sirusahh well scrap that cause nxserver isn't working ;/
10:55.33Tidusjust follow my howto.
10:55.45Tiduslet me figure out which package you need to emerge.
10:55.50devurandomOr is it possible to change the security settings for such links?
10:55.59TidusSirus: try typing vncserver -help and seeing what that gives
10:55.59SirusTidus: ok tightvnc compiled do I need to start something now?
10:56.28SirusUsage: vncserver [<OPTIONS>] [:<DISPLAY#>]
10:56.29Sirus<PROTECTED>
10:56.34SirusI got some other stuff too
10:56.36TidusSirus: you're good to go
10:57.02SirusSo do I need to run something? or just use putty?
10:57.13Tidusjust use putty and follow what's presented in my jpeg.
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10:57.17Tidusfollow the arrows
10:57.37Sirusokie doke lets give this a try
10:57.37Tidusif you see the "tidus@Yuna" prompt in the PuTTY window, type in what's after it
10:57.46Tidus(in my jpeg, anywho)
10:58.13Tidusjust change the ip address to match
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11:00.48Sirus/usr/sbin/sshd
11:00.49SirusCould not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key
11:00.49SirusCould not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key
11:00.51Sirusdamn
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11:03.38Sirusahh /etc/init.d/sshd start fixed that
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11:04.04devurandomHow can I edit the protocol settings in konqueror? (Everytime I want to follow an ed2k:// link Konqueror tells me that this is insecure.)
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11:07.43Sirushrmm it worked
11:07.47Sirusbut I got a shell
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11:14.37TidusSirus: that's where you have to do some magic
11:14.39TidusSirus: /msg me
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11:15.06sirusdamn
11:15.09Tidussirus: /msg me
11:15.13sirusk
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11:19.43xcyborgafter upgrading from kde 3.3 to 3.4 the Alt-Shift-H shortcut no longer works in konsole (running mc) does anyone knows why ?
11:20.03xcyborgI did not change any other setting
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11:21.55xcyborgit doesn't work in xterm either
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11:32.51Enforcer_JBhow far away is 3.4.1? any ideas?
11:33.01Enforcer_JBmore like a week, or a month, or two?
11:33.37xdebianuserHi to all :)
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11:34.14xdebianuserIs there a roman numbers calculator in existance for KDE? (was trying to do one)
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11:40.21f2eclmgtfgthi, i need help with a KDevelop app
11:41.19f2eclmgtfgtany?
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11:41.43Enforcer_JBf2eclmgtfgt, I probably can't help but if you don't describe your actual problem, nobody will :-)
11:42.42f2eclmgtfgti need insert a web page like http://localhost in a full screen windows of Kdevelop, is possible?
11:45.57chakiehm, klipper keeps popping up all the time prompting what to do with an url i selected, oh, 2 hours ago
11:46.09chakieslightly annoying
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11:46.54Enforcer_JBchakie, known bug - you're using firefox/mozilla, right?
11:46.54chakieEnforcer_JB: no, konqueror
11:46.54lippelf2eclmgtfgt: what exactly do you mean? do you want to view a doc site in kdevelop?
11:47.15Enforcer_JBchakie, seems to be fixed in cvs, I reported this a while ago
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11:47.52chakieEnforcer_JB: ok, it annoyed me some months ago too, but then it just stopped... if it's fixed in cvs that's good enough
11:48.49Enforcer_JBchakie, could you check for me if you can use konq (you have 3.4?) in wikipedia.org to edit articles, and if you select some text within an "textarea" edit field, does konq freeze for a couple seconds? I'm having this problem
11:48.52f2eclmgtfgtthe real problem is that I need to view a web in full screen windows, in html it is not possible to make (disable the title and the scrolls completely is not possible) some suggestion?
11:49.07chakieEnforcer_JB: lemme see
11:49.59chakieEnforcer_JB: no, it doesn't freeze here. but i've seen that problem too (also on 3.4)
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11:52.43lippelf2eclmgtfgt: ctrl+shift+f in konq. not complete fullscreen though
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11:54.45f2eclmgtfgti need a completely full screen. its possible?
11:56.18StevenRf2eclmgtfgt: can you explain more clearly what you want?
11:56.29lippelf2eclmgtfgt: you could write a simple app embedding a khtmlpart
11:56.47lippelis it for a presentation?
11:59.13lippelthere is also kwebdesktop, which displays an html page as background. that could do, too.
11:59.32f2eclmgtfgtyeap, es for a presentation, but i need video, images and database connections, i need a tutorial for write a simple app embedding a khtmlpart you know?
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12:00.34JefisHow to make konqueror to remember that Menubar is hidden, if i press CTRL+M and close konqueror it doesn't remmeber
12:02.26chakieJefis: try Settings->Save view profile "whatever"
12:02.42Jefishow i press settings, if menubar is hidden?;)
12:03.04chakieyes, that's an interesting problem :)
12:03.12chakieassign a shortcut to it?
12:03.29Jefisshortcut to it?;)
12:03.37chakiekeyboard shortcut
12:03.41Jefishmm
12:04.04Jefisright
12:04.04Jefis:)
12:04.16chakiecould work
12:05.30Jefisyeee :)
12:05.35Jefisworks, and look cool :)
12:05.42Jefischakie, thanks dude ;)
12:05.52chakienp
12:05.56Jefisby the way :)
12:06.04Jefisis it possible to lock toolbars?
12:06.15chakiethat i can't answer, sorry
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12:08.26f2eclmgtfgtyes, i need hide anything
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12:12.47lippelf2eclmgtfgt: check the tutorials, there are also tutorials how to use kparts
12:14.18lippelf2eclmgtfgt: examples of apps embedding khtmlparts are e.g. kdevelop and akregator
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12:14.50lippelalthough the integration is a bit messy at least in akregator
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12:16.12lippelf2eclmgtfgt: it's probably better to just remove everything from konq, like toolbars
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12:17.08f2eclmgtfgtand the hthml inside????
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12:22.18NixenPeople, how do you think, is it very difficult to make a possibility to change KDE menus structure by only mouse without "kde menu editor" help?
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12:45.54StevenRin kwrite/kate/kile how do I disable the trailing space marker?
12:46.47StevenR(when i end a sentence, katepart adds a little comma-like thing afterwards to show that there's a trailing space.)
12:47.47StevenRnevermind..disable tabs. (that's confusing)
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12:59.00neoclusthi
12:59.10neoclusti have a question about .moc
13:00.02neoclust.moc are written by the dev or  generated automaticaly ?
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13:04.26Bille_awayneoclust: automatically
13:04.44Bille_awayby moc
13:05.43Bille_awayhttp://doc.trolltech.com/3.3/moc.html
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13:07.21neoclustBille_away: thanks i will have a look a this because i want to package a soft and .moc is include :/
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13:22.34Bertohi - my kdeweather applet isn't working well - i put KCMH (columbus) into the code, and when i try to get an update, it says that the station does not exist --- but it does, and if i get a full weather report it works
13:22.34r0uteI have just installed kde 3.4 but whne i try to use any web app such as konqueror or kmail i get errors saying the protocol (http, file, pop3 etc) is not supported and i also get an error saying no mime types installed, can anyone tell me what is missing here ?
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13:22.43Bertoanyone good with kweather applet?
13:23.25annmar0ute: install method?
13:24.10r0uteannma: emerge under gentoo, so guessing i'm missing a package somewhere jsut looking for an idea what it might be bundled with
13:24.21annmaask in #gentoo then please
13:24.37annmaor way for a gentoo user here to help you
13:25.01r0utehave asked their but no answer so i'll just wait here as well
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13:25.58annmaI smelled gentoo as soon as I read your problem but next time tell it straight from the beginning
13:28.10r0uteit was pretty straight if someone had replied saying the "such and such" kde component is missing io could have searched to find what package it could be in then, that was the aim, next time i'll explicitely say i'm using Gentoo tho
13:28.32annmaI have kde from source
13:28.37annmabut NOT gentoo
13:28.52annmadid you emerge arts kdelibs and kdebase?
13:29.26r0uteno, arts has not been emerged, that might help...
13:29.50annmano
13:30.00annmadid you emerge kdelibs?
13:30.12annmadid you emerge kdebase as a whole?
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13:30.48r0uteyes, but i think i may have messed up a dependancy here pissing about with it like a muppet earlier now i think about it
13:31.06annmaso look at your config.log
13:31.25annmapersonaly with kde sources from cvs I cannot compile if all dependencies are NOT there
13:32.17r0utei think i pissed about with something after i had emerged kdebase, kdelibs and messed about with something else, will go back through the logs now and see what i've messed up, cheers
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13:46.19DaveQBanyone know what this error message is ?? "WARNING: Cannot execute call to system.login: empty server URL"  Google returns nothing on that exact string search
13:46.35DaveQBhappens openning kontact/knotes
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13:54.07sonoudhi, i am just wondering which file storing all the settings for kde panel. i mean the layout, icons locations, etc..
13:54.29_mattrkickerrc
13:54.33_mattrIIRC
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13:55.29sonoud_mattr, are you talking to me?
13:55.50_mattrsonoud: no, i'm just spouting junk out into the channel. ;)
13:56.16_mattrsonoud: yes, i'm talking to you. you asked a question, i answered
13:56.21sonoud_mattr, i found it under .kde. thanks a lot.
13:56.24_mattrthat's generally the way these things work, ya know. :D
13:56.29sonoud_mattr, yeah. thanks. :)
13:56.36_mattrnp
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13:57.13sonoud_mattr, thanks a lot. bye. :)
13:57.25_mattryou're welcome
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14:15.19JefisHow to lock toolbars? :)
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14:15.37annmalock?
14:15.46Jefisyea
14:15.54Jefisnot to able to move somewhere else
14:16.50annmaI don't think you can prevent that
14:16.59annmaif you don't tuch it, it does not move
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14:17.44Jefisprobably if i go away from pc, it won't move too, right?;)
14:17.59frerichhi ho
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14:18.28annmaJefis: explain where and why you want to 'lock' it
14:18.58Jefisin konqueror -> Toolbar, like in explorer
14:19.48annmawhat does explorer do?
14:20.16annmais there a Toolbar menu in konq?
14:20.47Jefisye
14:20.50Jefis;)
14:21.34annmaI don't see it
14:21.49Jefis:)
14:21.57Jefisnevermind
14:22.20annmalook at the bug database
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14:23.26habibhello
14:23.42habibhow do I disable sistem sound?
14:23.49annmain kcontrol
14:24.29annmakcontrol -. sound & multimedia -> sound system
14:24.37annmauncheck Enable sound system
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14:27.02annmahabib: does that work?
14:27.29DaveQBanyone know what this error message is ?? "WARNING: Cannot execute call to system.login: empty server URL"  Google returns nothing on that exact string search
14:28.05annmahabib: ?
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14:28.15annmaDaveQB: no idea
14:28.17habibannma: Yes
14:28.19zambaroohi all.
14:28.27habibannma: I wanna run audacity
14:28.34DaveQBdamn
14:28.35annmahabib: run, run
14:28.53DaveQBdamn k3b always making coasters!
14:28.56zambaroodumb question, can i adjust the widget size in kde-3.3?
14:29.02DaveQBNeroLinux is awesome !!
14:29.08zambarook3b > *
14:29.16frerichzambaroo: Er - as a programmer? Sure.
14:29.17zambaroohas never failed me
14:29.24zambaroofrerich, no as a user :)
14:29.38habibannma. sorry , I don't get wath u say
14:29.39frerichzambaroo: What "widget" do you mean then? :-)
14:29.40DaveQBfails me, and no useful error report
14:30.04KryczekNeroLinux? hah
14:30.05zambaroofrerich, them window titles are too wide for my taste..
14:30.20DaveQBk3b worked for a little while, but then decided not to play
14:30.22frerichzambaroo: You mean the font is too wide?
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14:30.30DaveQBNero just works, no problems at all.
14:30.40zambaroofrerich, no, the font is fine, its adjustable.
14:31.04zambarooi just want the titles and the buttons to be narrower.. winders has that..
14:31.13zambarooim sure kde does too?:)
14:31.44frerichzambaroo: I think you have to choose a different window style for that. Whether or not that is configurable depends on the style, I think.
14:32.31zambaroothanks.
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14:32.44zambarookonversation?
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14:33.56annmalots
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14:34.26annmaUmbrello
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14:34.39zambaroowhats umbrello?
14:34.46DaveQBumbrello is awesome
14:35.11annmagwenview
14:35.16annmaand so oon
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14:48.58Blissexzambaroo: 'noatun' !
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14:49.14chimaerahi
14:49.16Blissexzambaroo: even worse, the reverse happens -- Kino is a _GNOME_ application!
14:49.21chimaerais anoncvs down?
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14:51.42annmaBlissex: lol
14:51.51annmaand Gwenview a KDE one
14:52.02r00tsh3llwth is that? http://biglinux.codigolivre.org.br/KDE3D1.jpg
14:52.03Blissexannma: its terrible isn't it ;-)
14:52.17r00tsh3llsome kind of metisse effects in kde
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14:52.44SchopfeRplop
14:54.33r00tsh3lldoes anybody knows how can i do that?
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15:05.30zambarooblissex, kino is russian for cinema :)
15:06.12annmagerman looks like that as well iirc
15:06.32Blissexzambaroo: yes, and greek too probably, but using a K-name for a GNOME application is terrible, no matter what the excuse is.
15:06.50Blissexzambaroo: they could have called it "Gino" instead :-)
15:06.58annma;-)
15:07.07annmalike aKregator
15:08.51zambarooahaha or gyno
15:09.30srednaHi all :)
15:09.40zambaroohi sredna.
15:09.48annmahi sredna
15:10.04annmasredna: where do you put your KNewStuff tarballs?
15:10.09annmafor kate?
15:10.39srednaannma: On which server? They are in kate.kde.org/shared
15:10.56annmaso in www module
15:11.04srednaannma: Yes
15:11.19annmaI have too much stuff sredna fopr keeping it in www
15:11.20srednaWww/apps/kate under the old structure
15:11.26annmayes
15:11.37annmaI also do the same
15:11.54annmaand we have contributed data as well
15:12.03annmait's getting too big
15:12.13srednaannma: Well, then you need a server with more space?
15:12.24annmathe problem is not soace itself
15:12.27annmapace
15:12.30annmaspace
15:12.38annmait's for people who cvs co www
15:12.45srednaWell, keeping it in cvs is silly, I'd much prefer a ftp account
15:12.47annmathey should get only www stuff
15:12.53annmaah
15:12.59annmawell me too
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15:13.18annmaexcept I don't want to ask someone each time I send something on ftp
15:13.39annmaat the moment the process is to upload it and ask someone to put it at the right place
15:13.39srednaannma: We should ask the admin of ftp.kde.org for an account, and set it up properly
15:13.50annmaok, so you're ok with that
15:13.52Jyis there anyway to create a hot key for "show desktop" i don't see any option in the hotkey menu on the control panel in 3.4
15:14.14annmasredna: ok, should I ask core-devel prior to it?
15:14.14srednaannma: Or rather, ssh account I guess, for trusted people, and a ftp blackhole for the wider public
15:14.24annmayes
15:14.39annmaare there other devels in the same case?
15:14.50srednaannma: I think a discussion is in place, since if a lot of kde applications starts using khns, space will be needed
15:15.02annmaa discussion is in place?
15:15.05annmawhere?
15:15.06srednaAndras probably
15:15.31srednaWell, kde-core is fine by me.
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15:15.54annmaok :)
15:15.58annmathanks
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15:17.09sredna:)
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15:22.23r00tsh3llhow can i do that ? http://download.codigolivre.org.br/biglinux/kde3d.avi
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15:23.42staufkWhich macros can I use in the "work path" field of a file assocation?
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15:24.43srednastaufk: Try pressing shift + F1 with the field in focus
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15:26.34FLeiXiuSIs there any way of installing Konqueror without installing KDE 3.4 full
15:26.53srednaFLeiXiuS: You need kdelibs and kdebase
15:27.40FLeiXiuSsredna: Whats the konqueror package called?
15:27.50srednaFLeiXiuS: Kdebase
15:28.33FLeiXiuSHmm, I have them installed just not finding konqueror any where.
15:29.11srednaFLeiXiuS: What system are you running?
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15:31.00staufksredna: "enter the working directory here" not too useful.
15:31.11staufkThe problem is then when vim starts, it starts in the wrong directory.
15:31.20sredna~ug
15:31.21aptfrom memory, ug is http://docs.kde.org/en/HEAD/kdebase/userguide/
15:32.22staufkThat is, no matter where I am, when I try to edit a .java file, vim starts but the cwd is always ~
15:32.22srednastaufk: It's possible that the userguide has a section covering it.
15:32.22staufkI was checking google to no avail.  Thanks.
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15:33.43FLeiXiuSsredna: I'm runing slackware 10.1
15:34.06srednaSo, any slackware users knowing where slackware puts kde?
15:34.11srednaMaybe /opt/kde?
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15:34.39srednacanllaith: Maybe you can help out here?
15:34.44FLeiXiuSOh alright, I didn't understand why it didn't have a link already set
15:34.46FLeiXiuSThanks
15:34.58srednaOh, so you found it?
15:35.15FLeiXiuSYeah, as soon as you asked where to look for, I was like, oh yeah../opt/kde
15:36.55srednastaufk: Maybe '%d' will expand to the location of the file. Or use the command 'cd %d && <app> %f' or something like that
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15:37.07srednaFLeiXiuS: Good :)
15:37.24FLeiXiuSsredna: :-) thankyou
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15:45.02Gumbyhello all.  I'm running kde3.4 here and somehow the background to the popups over the taskbar icons/programs have turned to black.  Did I mess up and set this somewhere or is it a bug?  Any idea how to change it back?
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15:46.44srednaGumby: How did you install KDE?
15:47.29Gumbysredna: I used debian pacakges.
15:47.42Gumbyat first they had a light coloured background.
15:48.03Gumbynow its completely black with black text that is highlighted by white and the icon apears fine
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15:48.24Gumbyits something I can live with.  But I'd rather not
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15:49.07cuseHi! I'm using 2 displays on my system and I have a little problem with konqueror regarding this; whenever I start konqueror on the 2nd display, all dialog messages (e.g. "accept cookie?", HTTP password dialog) are always shown on the 1st screen. Is this a desired behavior?
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15:49.55cuseOr can I change that behavior somehow?
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15:51.19srednaGumby: It's normally a hardcoded black color in qt, afaik
15:51.46srednacuse: That sounds undesirable to me
15:52.23cusesredna: exactly :) I just wondered if this is a bug or if theres really something senseful behind that
15:52.45Gumbysredna: really?
15:52.57Gumbystrange, I've only seen it as a lighter colour
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15:53.10srednaGumby: Yes, and it should be the same in all tooltips, a light yellow color and black text
15:53.34apokryphossredna: ah, been looking for you past few days :). Uploaded some patches...
15:53.40X-Thecan i speak some about kernel here?
15:53.40Gumbysredna: but my tooltips background is completely black.
15:53.44apokryphossredna: www.youmortals.com/stuff/kate
15:54.01srednaHi apokryphos :)
15:54.24Gumbyis there somewhere I can change the tooltip background colour?
15:54.28apokryphossredna: Hi :). Whoops -- diregard the others; only htmltools altered
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15:54.32X-Thei would like to know to who is using notebooks, whats their normal cpu temperature
15:54.41apokryphosHmm, and index.docbook; one sec, I'll upload it
15:54.56srednaYea, that's the one I picked :)
15:55.52srednaapokryphos: It's not changed
15:56.22apokryphossredna: ergh, forgot to upload completely (really thought I had :P). They're there n ow
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15:57.32apokryphossredna: I was misguided into evil things, i.e. using <acronym>HTML</acronym> when there's actually an entity ;-). Fixed that now
15:57.44srednaapokryphos: That looks fine  imo
15:57.50apokryphoscool :)
15:58.29srednaapokryphos: You should really put yourself as copyright holder
15:59.14apokryphossredna: for the htmltools part? Wasn't really sure; though I haven't got an entity (not heavily into documentation, but I plan to eventually).
15:59.53srednaapokryphos: Ask lauri to add you, or for OK to adding yourself :)
16:00.23apokryphosI could probably put my details down there anyhow, couldn't I? Would have to check into that...
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16:01.30apokryphossredna: though, all the stuff really came from you and the author of the plugin
16:03.25srednaapokryphos: You ddi the work ;)
16:03.27srednaDid
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16:05.33alzenok, a question; if anyone is using arch linux here; please tell me in which package kpaint lies? i tried kdegraphics but it is nowhere there
16:05.36apokryphossredna: ok, I'll try ask lauri what to do when she's free
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16:05.50srednaapokryphos: Ok :)
16:09.27lauridude, nobody needs to ask me to add yourself as a copyright holder
16:09.47laurii spend half my time nagging people who don't want to, that they *have* to add themselves, or I will anyway
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16:10.18apokryphoslauri: hehe. So what shall I do? Patch the contributor.entities?
16:10.25lauriif you changed anything bigger than a typo fix, you better damn well put your name in there
16:10.51_mattrlauri: get out the whip! ;)
16:10.57apokryphoshehe :)
16:11.07dementehey
16:11.09lauriyup, but then wait a week before using the entity (at which point everyone will stil whine at you that you made them recompile kdelibs, but at least a few people will have already done so by then)
16:11.12apokryphoslauri: suffice it to say, I've done more than typo fixes with konq handbook :P
16:11.18lauriexpand it in place first
16:11.25apokryphosheh
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16:11.32lauriapokryphos: indeed you have
16:12.11apokryphosOk, I'll patch up now
16:13.21apokryphos=)
16:13.24lauriehm, not that I think you have a particularly thick skull, but this comes up *so* often
16:13.32lauriand it's so simple
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16:13.51apokryphoswebcvs.kde.org down stillll?
16:14.05annmayes
16:14.16apokryphos:(. I'll use that mirror
16:14.30annmahmm I sent a patch for kmail doc and it did not get committed
16:14.37annmanow that we speak about doc
16:15.04lauriwho did you send it to?
16:15.48lauriI don't see it on kde-doc-english, when did you send it=
16:16.13annmalet me look
16:17.26annma<PROTECTED>
16:17.26annmakde-doc-english@kde.org
16:17.31annma18 march
16:17.38eeanmwhen are we switching to SVN?
16:17.49annmaeeanm: we don't know
16:17.55annmawhen we're ready to
16:18.05eeanmwe're held in suspense
16:18.16annmayou are?
16:18.18annmawhy?
16:18.25lauriwell, that's handy, my mail server RAID drive crashed on the 20th, and took out most of the mail store with it (and I had backups, but a few days old)
16:18.33eeanmno, not really
16:18.57annmalauri: so I shall resend it
16:19.46laurino, it's on lists.k.o
16:19.56annmatoo late!
16:19.59annmaeeerk
16:20.00lauriok, I can't apply that patch as it is, but I can fix the problem at least
16:20.07annmawhy not?
16:20.16annmacan I do it better?
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16:20.32lauribecause you changed the text but didn't move it to the right menu (so now it's in the wrong menu section)
16:20.41annmayou sure?
16:20.43ExElNeTi am trying to run artsd with my usbheadset but i cant get it working the error is artsd -d -D hw:1,0 Error while initializing the sound driver: Unable to set channels!
16:20.44apokryphoslauri: whereabouts is the contributor.entities on cvs? Looking in kdelibs but don't see it just yet...
16:20.52laurithe second chunk is ok
16:21.00lauriapokryphos: kdelibs/kdoctools/customization/entities/
16:21.06apokryphosah
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16:22.38lauriwhy is it too late?
16:22.59annmaI resent it
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17:10.30vi4mhello
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17:10.57vi4mmy question is: how to make backup of running linux system without going into the single user mode?
17:11.34apokryphosalaxa: yes; not working for me and webcvs.kde.org is down
17:11.35Tronicvi4m: cp -avux . <where-ever>
17:11.36vi4mwould it be safe, if i simply exclude directories: /proc /sys and /dev ?
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17:11.47Tronicvi4m: It's not very good, though, but usually works quite fine.
17:12.11Troniccp -avux / /mnt/backup
17:12.42Tronicvi4m: -x mostly takes care of that.
17:13.08TronicIIRC, tar cannot do the job properly.
17:13.08vi4mi'll try,thanks
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17:13.56alaxaok, next question, anyone with an Apple that tried to compile with  QT/Mac ?
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17:15.23Sho__I will never understand how kdesktop calculates the icon grid
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17:16.11askielauri: I like those quick bugfixes! :)
17:16.13FlendorHello.
17:17.22lauriheh, I'm on a roll today
17:18.06lauriand I started at the new end, then thought that probably wasn't smart, so now I'm working through the old ones
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17:19.14askieWell, you definitely made me happy by doing so ;)
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17:21.12laurifirst time in a long while I've had both motivation and some spare time at the same time
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17:22.40lauriaskie: keep filing the bug reports though, i18n is our best source for the fact corrections, for sure, and i promise (gah, in public, where everyone can see and hold me to it) to try and keep on top of them better than we have been
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17:23.04askielauri: I will, that's for sure :)
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17:23.47pchanIs it possible to "tab" windows like in fluxbox?
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17:24.37lauripchan: no, but you can use fluxbox as your window manager, if that feature is more important to you then what kwin has to offer
17:24.46lauri(that is, as your wm inside KDE)
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17:25.00lauriquite simply too, just set an envar: setenv KDE_WM fluxbox; startx
17:25.32lauri(or however you set envars in your shell)
17:25.32vi4mofftopic: i don't know who invented to make konqi network shortcuts, but -  that's _great_ idea! //i don't know whom send a beer ;-)
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17:26.55pchanlauri, Well, the windows wont be all themed/kde:ish then will they?
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17:27.25lauripchan: no, since that's what window managers do :)
17:27.27alaxano apple users here?
17:27.39pchanhehe :D  Well well, any idea on how to hack in tabbed windows?
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17:27.45laurialaxa: not too many, in a KDE channel
17:27.49pchan(i love that feature)
17:28.05lauripchan: no, you could go comment on one of the several wishlist items about it
17:28.13alaxalauri i'm looking for someone that tried to compile kde with Qt/mac
17:28.47pchanWishlist you say.  Where can i find it?
17:28.52alaxaat least i'd like to know any way to handle the shortcuts inside each application that are set to run fine with X
17:28.55lauri(bII window decoration used to do a neat trick, where the tab with the window title moved around so it was always visible: if you put windows over each other, and made the titlebars line up, it's nearly like tabs)
17:28.58lauripchan: bugs.kde.org
17:29.18lauriI don't know if bII still does that
17:29.38laurior just maximize all your windows, have an external always visible taskbar at the top, and disable task grouping on it - voila, instant tabs
17:30.41laurireal, non-maximized, ad hoc attaching windows to each other, can't be done right now
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17:31.42PEACEYALLwhen i press file - print , i get: "There was an error loading kdeprint_cups. The diagnostics is: Library files for "kdeprint_cups.la" not found in paths." , wats the problem??
17:31.48PEACEYALLoh ya and i am using kde 3.4
17:32.05alaxaok thank you, i will come later for a mac user :)
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17:32.23triNodeare there any problems with the kde bugs database sending passwords?
17:32.53aseigo_htriNode: what do you mean?
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17:33.33triNodeaseigo_h: I'm trying to report a bug, and had no account, so i entered my mail address, and it said my password would be mailed to me
17:33.45triNodeaseigo_h: and i never recieved it.... no spam filter
17:33.48aseigo_htriNode: how long ago?
17:34.14triNodenot long, but these things are normally instant :)
17:34.40aseigo_htriNode: heh... well give it a few minutes. that machine can sometimes be a bit busy.
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17:34.55aseigo_htriNode: AFAIK it's up and running fine though
17:35.20triNodewill do, they never make helping easy do they? ;)
17:35.43aseigo_htriNode: view it as a test. =)
17:36.00aseigo_h"When you can snatch the pebble from my hand, you will be ready to leave, Grasshopper."
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17:36.20triNode2 bugs under my belt now :D only been trying for a week
17:37.54PEACEYALLwhen i press file - print , i get: "There was an error loading kdeprint_cups. The diagnostics is: Library files for "kdeprint_cups.la" not found in paths." , wats the problem?? , im using kde 3.4
17:37.59aseigo_htriNode: ah, a new kde user then?
17:38.20aseigo_hPEACEYALL: a bad installation... how did you install 3.4?
17:38.42PEACEYALLwith Konstruct
17:38.49triNodeaseigo_h: been using since 3.1, new to kdevelop though (apparently it's the same bug database)
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17:39.23lostmonkis there a write up anywhere on setting user groups in 3.4?
17:39.28aseigo_htriNode: yes... we all use bugs.kde.org... helps to keep things close as many times a bug filed against Application X really needs to be addressed in library Y
17:39.41aseigo_htriNode: and a lot of people work on more than one area in kde =)
17:39.56triNodeFound bugs in the subversion plugin, and now the code completion database creator can crash a whole pc
17:40.00aseigo_hlostmonk: user groups? you mean UNIX groups, or?
17:40.10lostmonki dunno the proper name
17:40.16lostmonkwhat u used to do with kuser
17:40.22aseigo_htriNode: well, report with prejudice and detail =) look for duplicates...
17:40.23lostmonkaudio, video, etc
17:40.34PEACEYALLaseigo_h if i installed it with Konstruct then how is that a bad instalation?
17:40.38aseigo_hlostmonk: ah. yes... ok.. you can still do that with kuser
17:40.53lostmonki thought kuser was broken on 3.4?
17:41.03aseigo_hi hope ont
17:41.04aseigo_her, not
17:41.11triNodeaseigo_h: I can't get much detail, I have about 3 seconds to killall kdevelop or the system swapping is so heavy I can't do anything
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17:42.25Guard][anhi ppl i just emerged kde 3.4 on a gentoo box, click "use translucency/shadows" in the kde control center produces no result
17:42.46Guard][ananymay starting xcompmgr by hand works
17:42.48Guard][anany idea ?
17:42.49aseigo_hGuard][an: are you running the compmgr?
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17:42.54lostmonkaseigo_h, what package should kuser be in?>
17:42.55aseigo_hah.. there you go =)
17:42.58Guard][ando i first have to launch it ?
17:42.59aseigo_hlostmonk: kdeadmin
17:43.04aseigo_hGuard][an: yes.
17:43.09Guard][anoh explains lot :D
17:43.13PEACEYALLlol
17:43.26aseigo_hGuard][an: that stuff isn't very well integrated yet... it's just too new and too beta
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17:43.46Guard][anwell it does not work at all
17:43.51Guard][anxcompmgr is started
17:43.51physosaseigo_h: thanks for the write up.
17:43.58Guard][anif i use transset it works
17:44.04Guard][anbut none of the kde control center settings work
17:44.20frerichGuard][an: You need to restart KDE
17:44.21PEACEYALLhow do i start compmgr
17:44.25aseigo_hlike an XRender by a couple of Qt developers that's already 9x faster at many common ops than the one that comes with X.org right now
17:44.25lostmonkthanks
17:44.29Guard][anok
17:44.36triNodeaseigo_h: where's that e-mail you promised me?
17:44.38triNode:)
17:44.42frerichGuard][an: IIRC that feature only writes into some configuration file, but doesn't show any effect immediately
17:44.45aseigo_hphysos: the transcript?
17:44.53aseigo_hphysos: btw, that worldwide map is looking kick ass...
17:44.54Guard][anlet's restarting kde
17:45.02Guard][anhmm works :)
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17:45.17physosaseigo_h: yeah, the transscript.
17:45.17m0ns00nHello
17:45.22Guard][anworks well !
17:45.22m0ns00nI'm wondering about something
17:45.23aseigo_hphysos: oh... how's the feature guide going? what needs to get done on that so we can ship it?
17:45.26Guard][anit's not slow
17:45.29PEACEYALLGuard] [an , how do u start compmgr??
17:45.35m0ns00nIs there a tutorial on how to create a kde theme?
17:45.40m0ns00nI have no idea where to start
17:45.40m0ns00n:-)
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17:46.01Guard][anPEACEYALL: previously i just did "xcompmgr&" in a console, but i restarted kde and now it simply works
17:46.08PEACEYALLok
17:46.14physosaseigo_h: you have not seen anything coming up for worldwide ;) http://www.brainoff.com/worldkit/index.php  have to watch for licence issues though :)
17:46.20triNodem0ns00n: set up your desktop all pretty, then save it with the theme manager ?
17:46.33m0ns00ntriNode: I ment a style/wm
17:46.46Guard][ani'm discovering kde
17:46.47Guard][anit's cool
17:46.51m0ns00ntriNode: Found a tutorial for 2.x hehe
17:47.03triNodem0ns00n: like the title bar  and stuff?
17:47.04m0ns00ntriNode: Which only covered "Code styles", not "pixmap styles"
17:47.07m0ns00nYeah
17:47.09m0ns00nAnd buttons
17:47.10PEACEYALLi get bash: xcompmgr: command not found
17:47.11PEACEYALL:/
17:47.12m0ns00nScrollbars
17:47.29Guard][anwhat kind of programs can draw the background ?
17:47.52Guard][anPEACEYALL: surely you don't have the good xorg version
17:48.05m0ns00ntriNode: And as well, I'm wondering if KDE's IceWM engine is up to date enough to let me make IceWM themes as well
17:48.06PEACEYALLoh i need xorg , damn i have xfree86
17:48.07PEACEYALL:/
17:48.29m0ns00ntriNode: Displaying them properly ( in the past all the IceWM themes I've tried for KDE have been screwed up )
17:49.46PEACEYALLgah this sux, now whenever i need to print , i need to open gnome :/
17:50.36triNodem0ns00n: sorry, i've no idea, always been pretty happy with the ones that come with kde
17:51.04aseigo_hPEACEYALL: konstruct.. i see.. you have the cups-devel and all the other printing packages required?
17:51.18lostmonkaha
17:51.22lostmonkstill cant get it
17:51.26PEACEYALLill check
17:51.38lostmonkaseigo_h, is therea write up anywhere on how to do it via termianl?
17:51.52aseigo_hphysos: that worldkit stuff looks cool =)
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17:52.10aseigo_hlostmonk: groups? sure.. as root, open /etc/groups and add users to the groups you want.
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17:52.20aseigo_her.. /etc/group
17:52.27lostmonkwell, i did that, and i still have no sound
17:52.36PEACEYALLaseigo_h , what is the cups-devel package called?
17:52.43lostmonkas soon as i login, it says i dont have permissions
17:52.52aseigo_hlostmonk: you need to log out and back in for the OS to pick up those changes for your user..
17:53.02lostmonkalready did
17:53.15aseigo_hah.. you have logged in.. ok.. and the sound devices are all owned by the right group and have the proper group permissions?
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17:53.55lostmonkowned by the right group
17:53.57lostmonkhm
17:54.02eckhartwhat happened to kde cvs?
17:54.03lostmonknot wuite sure what u mean there
17:54.37aseigo_hlostmonk: ls -l /dev/<whateveryoursounddeviceis>
17:54.52lostmonkuh
17:54.54lostmonkok
17:55.00aseigo_heckhart: nothing. why?
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17:55.20eckharti always get a timeout on webcvs.kde.org
17:55.32eckhartand cervisia does not work either
17:56.13aseigo_heckhart: i just did a cvs up
17:56.13lostmonki have no idea
17:56.32aseigo_heckhart: are you using anoncvs or cvs.kde.org?
17:57.07eckhartaseigo_h: anoncvs
17:57.24aseigo_heckhart: ah.. i see. perhaps the mirror is down
17:57.53eckhartis webcvs.kde.org the same mirror?
17:58.02_mattrprobably
17:58.05aseigo_hi think it draws off of anoncvs yes
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17:58.48dolphinwhy does kbear fsck up whole panel?
18:00.02aseigo_hthe system tray? yeah, that's because kbear has a bug in its systray label
18:00.26aseigo_hit says it's really, really wide (bad width() calculation) when it's not
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18:07.42eckhartif i have a directory with cervisia view mode
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18:08.06eckhartthen i click on a directory icon
18:08.23eckhartthis directory gets opened in a new tab
18:08.34eckhartbut also with the cervisia view mode
18:09.01eckhart(which of course leads to an error as the directory is almost certainly not a cvs directory)
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18:10.31chrishi
18:10.33chrisquestion :
18:10.49chrisi once got these nice copy-dialogs with kde 3.1 or something
18:10.52chriswhere are they
18:10.54chris?
18:10.57triNodejesus christ, kde bugs display's my e-mail address?!?!??
18:11.02ExElNeTis there an arts channel or forum?
18:11.04chriswhere you can schdule the copy
18:11.07chrisoder pause
18:11.10chrisor pause
18:11.17chrisand do much more
18:11.54triNoderight, changing my e-mail address to my hotmail one....
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18:16.03triNodedoes noone think it's daft to have a big database of e-mail addresses for spam bots to harvest on bugs.kde.org?
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18:18.36LraptorDoes somebody know how to autoload the gnome theme & font settings from kde ?
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18:18.56aseigo_hLraptor: you mean like running the gconf daemon?
18:19.19Lraptormaybe ...
18:19.51Lraptorwhich binary is that ?
18:21.05aseigo_hgconfd-2?
18:23.41Lraptor"/usr/libexec/gconfd-2" ?
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18:29.19Lraptorthat binary doesn't do anything ... but the settings are loaded when I start gnome-theme-manager
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18:30.02chealerhi, what happens with bash when you close a konsole session (and there are programs started by bash)?
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18:30.31frerichThey become ex-programs.
18:31.01chealerex-programs...hum, never heard of that
18:31.14frerichex-programs as in 'ex-parrot'.
18:31.18chealerI'm not very aware of how processes work though
18:31.47chealerex-parrot...what does that mean? I'm not natively English-speaking
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18:32.41frerichchealer: It's just a tribute to a nice Monty Python scene about a customer (Mr. Praline) bringing a dead parrot back to the shop, and complaining that it's dead (andin fact, wasn't alive when he bought it).
18:33.41chealerso, bash has never been alive? :-P
18:34.04frerich"He's not pinning! He's passed on! This parrot is no more! He has ceased to be! He's expired and gone to meet his maker! He's astiff! Bereft of life, he rests in peace! If you hadn't nailed him to the perch he'd be pushing up the daisies! His metabolic processes are now history! He's off the twig! He's kicked the bucket, he's shuffled off his mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleeding choir invisible! THIS IS AN EX-PARROT!"
18:35.15chealerimpressive memory
18:35.57chealerlet's say I have bash running in konsole and I su in it, then close konsole, both bashes terminate
18:36.28frerichchealer: I looked the actual text up with Google.
18:36.47chealerok that's more sane
18:37.14chealer...but if after su I start some programe, like dpkg-reconfigure, then when closing konsole root's bash is reattributed to init. I'd like to understand this behavior
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18:41.17osohhi ll
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18:42.09coachzIs there any way to have KDE launch a hyperlink when i right click over text in an app?
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18:45.50PhilRodcoachz: I'm not quite sure what you mean - you can use klipper to open text from the clipboard (ie, select some text, klipper pops up an option to "open in konqueror")
18:45.57PhilRodhi osoh
18:46.07coachzi have an app  "treepad" that doesn't support hyperlinks
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18:46.29coachzso i'm trying to find a way to be able to launch the hyperlink by highlighting it and right clicking
18:46.38coachzand launching the browser with that link
18:46.57frerichYou'd have to edit the program's source code.
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18:47.22coachzcuz it the string can be copied to the clipboard
18:47.34coachzit should be available to go to a browser by some helper app
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18:51.18coachzIsn't there a cheeky app that can do that ?
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18:53.30PhilRodthat sounds like a job for klipper
18:53.51PhilRodcopy the string to the clipboard, and klipper will pop up a little menu
18:53.57PhilRodread the klipper handbook for more info
18:54.04PhilRod(help:/klipper in konq)
18:54.20coachzhmm
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18:56.15coachzi don't see how klipper can help
18:56.24coachzhow would it be faster than a copy/paste
18:56.38chealerI found the answer to my own question. konsole sends bash SIGHUP
18:57.38coachzklipper don't have a launch link/browser
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19:01.15PhilRodcoachz: well, if you set the clipboard/selection behaviour correctly, you should get the "open link in konq" option just by selecting the link
19:02.07coachzin klipper?  hmm
19:02.41coachzi don't see any konquerer reference in the options
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19:04.47sudan1how can i stop firefox using ugly anti-aliased(bitty) fonts in kde, i have anti-alias turned off in kde, its horrible...
19:06.43illogic-alwell sudan1 firefox isn't a KDE app which is why it's not respecting the choice you made.
19:07.18illogic-alto turn off antialiasing in firefox i _think_ you have to run it with the --noxft or --no-xft options
19:07.50illogic-albut i'm not sure. i think aliased fonts are teh suxorz and hate them :-)
19:07.57sudan1yes, illogic-al , i have gnome also and i have manipulated the fonts in that also and still firefox persists in using the same fonts
19:09.11PhilRodcoachz: did you read the section called "Actions"?
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19:11.01PhilRodI think we should adopt the method of today's www.dilbert.com in providing support here :-}
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19:12.11frerichPhilRod: Hah! I like that :-)
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19:15.25en453I have trouble recording sounds on my linux box: The input is Ok, since I hear from the boxes what I say in the microphone, but programs like audacity or krecord aren't able to record :p any ideas?
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19:20.33PhilRoden453: try yourdistro
19:20.36PhilRoden453: try #yourdistro
19:24.16gekhello. can someone point me to docs regarding multiple monitors (laptop and external monitor at the same time) on kde?
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19:25.26PhilRodgek: there's probably some stuff in the kcontrol docs (go into kcontrol, look around, and hit 'help' when something relevant turns up). Although AIUI, it's mainly an X issue though
19:25.39PhilRodoh wait, do you just want the same thing to appear on both displays?
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19:28.47xpatohow can i see all the kios?
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19:41.58Frost^does anyone know how can I make the icons in my kmenu larger? (kde 3.4)
19:42.06Frost^can't find it in the faq
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19:44.33aseigo_hFrost^: i do
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19:45.46Frost^care to give me a hand then?
19:46.12aseigo_hin your kickerrc, in the [menus] section set MenuEntryHeight=48 for 48px icons
19:46.16aseigo_h0 == no icons
19:46.33Frost^oh
19:46.43Frost^so there's no gui way for doing it?
19:46.44aseigo_her, no.. -1 == no icons
19:46.50aseigo_h0 == defaults..
19:47.04aseigo_hno. well. sort of. if you have kconfigeditor you can do it there =)
19:47.28Frost^hehe
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19:47.33Frost^well ok then :) thanks a lot
19:48.16aseigo_hnp
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19:49.25Frost^wow that's huge
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19:51.45Frost^ah, 22 is nice
19:51.47Frost^thanks again
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20:03.47cruzhow come i have the desktop sharing enabled to accept uninvited connections (still need the pw) but i cant connect w/ my vnc viewer
20:03.48cruz:o
20:05.46cruznvm
20:05.48cruziiiiiii got it
20:05.59cruzsome of the keys stick aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa little though
20:06.01cruzwhy is that
20:06.03cruzeekkkkkkkkk
20:06.06cruzwtf
20:06.54uniqis there a way (without hacking the sourcecode) to disable archives from the directory-tree-view in konqsidebar?
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20:08.28PhilRoduniq: right-click on the icon->remove ?
20:08.47r00tsh3llhow the hell i do that http://biglinux.codigolivre.org.br/KDE3D1.jpg ?
20:09.53r00tsh3llmetisse effects over kde
20:10.54uniqphilrod: hum.. I want to display directories only, in the treeview. Currently archives are listed like directories in the treeview. I want archives to be threated as files.. not directories.
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20:11.32PhilRodoh, I see
20:11.34PhilRodno idea, sorry
20:11.41uniqthanks anyways :)
20:11.47Ilicihi, is there a developer channel for kde or do programming questions go in here too ?
20:11.56r00tsh3llkde-devl
20:12.02r00tsh3llkde-devel*
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20:12.18PhilRodr00tsh3ll: you need whatever 3d wm is being used in that screenshot
20:12.19Iliciok thanks
20:13.19r00tsh3llPhilRod: kde but i dunno how can i get those 3d effects
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20:13.46PhilRodr00tsh3ll: that screenshot is using a window manager which is != kwin
20:13.58PhilRod(which is possible with the KDEWM environment variable)
20:14.24r00tsh3llits seems to be a hack of metisse to work over kde
20:15.01r00tsh3llsomething like that dunno.. im trying to contact the developer of that distribution to get more info about that..
20:15.10PhilRodwell, to use a different window manager, you just set KDEWM=/path/to/window-manager and then run KDE
20:15.19PhilRod(I think - never felt the need to try it)
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20:16.40r00tsh3llehe :-p lemme check if it really works
20:18.14PhilRodthere's some information about it around the place - I think the wiki has something that may be more authoritative than me
20:19.00r00tsh3lli'm searching for
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20:20.29r00tsh3llPhilRod: take a look.. http://download.codigolivre.org.br/biglinux/kde3d.avi
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20:22.56chimaerahi.
20:27.20r00tsh3llhttp://download.codigolivre.org.br/biglinux/biginstallfest2005.avi
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20:31.31elcucor00tsh3ll, wtf??? cool!
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20:35.40r00tsh3llmetisse inside of kde :) thats r0x :-p http://r00tsh3ll.homelinux.org:8081/shotz/r0x.jpg now i'll try to do that
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20:41.56theobromaI used to be able to preview my xcf files in konqi...now I can't remeber how I did it (I am using KDE 3.3.x)
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20:49.30ryanoeCould someone in here help me use Mencoder to RIP a DVD? I got most of the command down, but need help here with some basics I think
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20:52.27PhilRodryanoe: try #mplayer or somewhere
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20:53.00paraswith kde3.4, ZIP archives show up left in the konqueror navigation window, can this be switched off somehow ?
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20:58.25sudan1is this an official or unofficial kde channel? or do kde developers often frequent here, erm im new to this network...
20:58.54_mattrthis the kde help channel
20:59.03_mattrdevelopers who need help should go to #kde-devel
20:59.13chimaerais there a way to remove attachments from mails in kmail?
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21:01.03PhilRodand on the question of whether it's official or not, I guess it depends on how you define 'official' - it's the biggest KDE help channel, and it's linked to on www.kde.org
21:01.20slayerbobheh
21:01.21PhilRodbut I suppose there's no guarantee that anything said here is the view of "KDE as a whole"
21:01.25slayerbobsounds pretty official to me :P
21:01.46paraswith kde3.4, ZIP archives show up left in the konqueror navigation window, can this be switched off somehow ?
21:01.47slayerbobLOL in fact given the nature of kde it is almost certain that anything said here is not the view of kde as a whole :P
21:02.16PhilRodhehe, yeah :-)
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21:08.19parasis there a possibility to let hidden directories be shown in the navigation tab in konqueror ?
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21:09.46phedhey. I have this gam_server / gamin using all my cpu. anyone have any idea on how I can disable it?
21:10.03PhilRodparas: probably - try right-clicking in there, or setting view->show hidden files
21:10.07phedits seriously making stuff hard. eg. it makes it impossible for me to eject cdroms :(
21:10.39PhilRodphed: I don't think that's anything to do with KDE, but will 'kill' kill it?
21:11.18phedphilrod: no, something wakes it up. however, I suspect kde being the program which is using it, and making it go haywire
21:11.50phedsince kde seems to pop up in userstories about this bug, plus it seems a lot is depending on it
21:11.57parasPhilRod, view->show hidden files is only for the right part... not for the navigation tab.
21:12.52phedand I'm wondering where that sequiaview-like diskspaceusage went. It was selectable in konqueror before
21:13.06PhilRodphed: oh, it's part of fam, so it is probably being used by kde
21:13.13PhilRodparas: then I don't know, sorry
21:13.15phedok. what is fam?
21:13.21phedfile monitor of some kind I assume
21:13.32PhilRodfile alteration monitor
21:13.43phedmm, ok.
21:13.51anixtermy open application are not in the controlpanel, why...i upgraded today from 3.3 >3.4
21:13.59parasnp, thanks anyway
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21:28.39Oleg_3.9 GB are left on my hd
21:29.07Oleg_how do I free space?
21:29.20Oleg_/dev/hdb3              15G  9.9G  3.9G  72% /
21:29.44Oleg_hi
21:30.06sarah03Oleg_: You delete stuff that you don't need.
21:30.37Oleg_I know but what I don't need I dunno
21:30.57Oleg_oh
21:31.10Oleg_got an idea
21:31.18Oleg_I can delete some soap opera video files
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21:32.32Oleg_how can I delete all files that start with the word sunset?
21:32.56Oleg_rm -r sunset* ?
21:33.01Oleg_I bet it won't work
21:33.15Oleg_but let me try it
21:33.35Oleg_o-o
21:34.20aseigo_hand if you had too many you could just do:
21:34.52aseigo_hfor i in sunset*; do rm "$i"; done; ... or use `find` with it's exec option
21:36.07Oleg_explain it simpler please
21:36.29Oleg_rm -r sunset* $i?
21:36.37Oleg_and etc?
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21:37.22Oleg_oh
21:37.37Oleg_type it exactly as you said?
21:38.06Oleg_interesting that you used the letter i
21:39.06Oleg_thanks!
21:39.09Oleg_you are the man!
21:40.07Oleg_ok, now 4.1 GB of free space is left
21:40.08Oleg_or are left
21:40.19Oleg_I think are left is correct
21:42.47Oleg_ok, 4.2 GB are free now
21:43.53Oleg_I could delete the real player
21:45.08Oleg_oh, shoot!
21:45.12Oleg_I forgot!
21:45.16Oleg_I can delete gnome!!
21:45.28Oleg_This will free up a huge amount of space!
21:46.58Oleg_but gnome is scattered in many directories
21:47.04Oleg_how do I delete it?
21:47.14Oleg_I have a lot of gnome installed
21:47.25Oleg_I wanna get rid of gnome completely
21:48.17Oleg_ok, I'll be back. I gotta take a shower.
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21:51.19phedhmm, how do I kill gam_server permanently?
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21:51.29phedits killing my CPU. And its making my computer useless
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21:53.36ScArE2100_is there any sort of desktop search tool for kde based on beagle?
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21:57.54lippelScArE2100_: no
21:58.20lippel(not yet)
21:58.22ScArE2100_what about this? http://news.zdnet.co.uk/0,39020330,39164634,00.htm
21:58.45lippelthere is kat.sourceforge.net, but that's in a very early state
21:59.30lippelScArE2100_: there are plans for something which covers desktop search
21:59.37ScArE2100_and it isn't db driven if I understand correctly
21:59.40lippeldesktop is being a part of it actually
21:59.55ScArE2100_http://www.apple.com/macosx/tiger/spotlight.html thats just about the coolest  thing ever
22:00.25lippelif dot.kde.org was up, i could point you to an interview what is planned...
22:00.41lippelah, it works again
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22:01.44paraswith kde3.4, ZIP archives show up left in the konqueror navigation window, can this be switched off somehow ?
22:02.12lippelScArE2100_: http://dot.kde.org/1109163846/
22:02.40ScArE2100_apple is pretty stupid.  They should use open standards for trying to get people to switch to their platform.  that .mov file on that page will ONLY play in the latest version of quicktime.
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22:06.00Oleg_tell me how to get rid of gnome, please
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22:06.08Oleg_I dunno in what dirs it is in
22:06.14Oleg_I have a lot of gnome
22:06.17Oleg_gnomegames
22:06.21Oleg_gnome-core
22:06.23Oleg_and etc
22:07.03ScArE2100_what distro?
22:07.08Oleg_lfs
22:07.11aseigo_hScArE2100_: that zdnet article is indeed what we're working on.. don't know if you caught The Linux Box show but i described it in a bit more detail there, and Scott did that interview for the dot (though it's pretty scant on details)
22:07.23Oleg_I used lfs instructions to install gnome
22:07.39ScArE2100_aseigo: yes I'm reading the interview now
22:07.40Oleg_I bet it don't have the instuctions on uninstalling it
22:07.58Oleg_rm -r gnome-core
22:08.00Oleg_but where
22:08.01Oleg_?
22:08.18Oleg_ok, there is no gnome-core
22:09.15lippelOleg_: ask in #gnome =)
22:09.15ScArE2100_aseigo_h: I didn't catch The Linux Box show, what is it?
22:09.40aseigo_hScArE2100_: http://dot.kde.org/1112806202/
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22:09.55lippelOleg_: probably it's directly installed to /usr or /usr/local
22:10.10wrsHi all
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22:12.44wrsDoes anyone know how i can find out if an app is dropped? I miss knotes since yesterday...
22:14.13DirkGentlywrs: I think knotes is part of Kontact
22:14.56DirkGentlyhmm.. it's in 3.3
22:15.26wrsDirkGently: I opened a debian packages mirror (in a browser) ... kontact is also missing
22:16.34wrsDirkGently: Is sarge released suddenly? ;-)
22:17.01DirkGentlyapt-cache search kontact?
22:17.19DirkGentlyit's part of kdepim
22:18.25wrsDirkGently: apt-cache... -> three lines of text. Shall i flood it here or to #flood?
22:18.28DirkGentlyit's still in KDE 3.4
22:19.05DirkGentlywrs: you can do #flood if you like
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23:01.08lauriyo aseigo, you about?
23:01.18aseigo_hno.
23:01.19aseigo_hum. yes.
23:01.26lauriheh
23:01.37aseigo_hare you? ;)
23:01.39laurican I /query you for a minute?
23:01.44ScArE2100_aseigo_h: good interview.
23:01.47lauriI promise it's not about a bug :)
23:01.49ScArE2100_aseigo: thanks :)
23:01.49aseigo_hScArE2100_: =)
23:01.50laurior kicker
23:01.57aseigo_hhaha.. well in THAT case you surely can =P
23:02.13cartel_:)
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23:05.11scroogelol
23:08.01scroogebahh nevermind
23:08.04scrooge>:O>:O>:O
23:08.11scroogekrfb just killed my connection
23:08.15scroogedunno why
23:08.20scroogeand the pc is in the basement
23:08.28scroogeand OMFG it uses some dam random ass password
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23:10.17scroogeDAM i dont feel like going back inside my house >_<
23:10.45scroogeerhm...brb
23:10.56lauriwell, they're not going to go in your house for you
23:11.05strawcan i have your stuff, scrooge
23:11.20scroogerofl :P
23:11.24scroogeu want my laptop?
23:11.47strawwhatever you've got...
23:12.00scrooge3OS: WinXP Home Edition 5.1 Service Pack 2 (Build #2600) 3CPU:         Intel Pentium M , 1.60 GHz 3Video: Sony Notebook LCD (1280x800) on ATi MOBILITY Radeon 9200 (1280x800x32bpp 60Hz) 3Sound: SoundMAX Digital Audio 3Memory: Used: 396/511MB 3Uptime:  2w  4d  4h  38m  58s  3HD:  [C:Vaio Drive] 8.08/39.97 GB  3Connection: Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 2200BG Network Connection - Packet Scheduler Miniport @ 11.0 Mbps (Rec: 770.46MB Sent: 171.15MB)
23:12.08scroogei have kde + gentoo on here also ^_^
23:12.14Marrs|vrocbwah
23:12.18Marrs|vrocwhat's that?
23:12.23strawyou can keep the gentoo ;)
23:12.23scroogevaio s150
23:12.28scroogerofl :P
23:12.43Marrs|vrocat least it looks kind of cool
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23:12.55scroogeoh yea. gotta love it
23:13.04kbrooksin konsole
23:13.05scrooge6hours+ battery life
23:13.08DirkGentlyscrooge: what kernel version :¬P
23:13.10kbrooksi dont see any........
23:13.15scrooge2.6.11.6
23:13.15Marrs|vrocI have 1 hour of battery life
23:13.17Marrs|vroc:)
23:13.17kbrooks*thinks*
23:13.20kbrooksok.
23:13.21scroogepatched to death
23:13.25scroogelol
23:13.32scroogeoh nah...in linux i get max 3-4 hours
23:13.33scrooge:(
23:13.34Marrs|vrocbut a quick laptop :)
23:13.35kbrooksi dont see any text in konsole
23:13.42scroogepfft
23:13.42Marrs|vrocalienware area51m
23:13.45scroogemy laptop is FAST
23:14.02kbrooksi dont see any text in konsole! help!
23:14.16scroogei compiled glibc with nptl faster then a p4 3.4ghz with HT
23:14.18scrooge:|
23:14.19kbrooksperl -MCPAN -e shell <<<< when i type, i dont see anything
23:14.26scroogeand 1GB ram in the p4^^
23:14.31scroogei only have 512 ^_^
23:14.31kbrooksat all. period
23:14.55scroogekbrooks, eh? changed the schema?
23:15.07kbrookswhat's the default
23:15.18strawso i wonder how all the foolishness with BK will affect kde's move to BK
23:15.23scroogewateva u make the default to be :P
23:15.33lauriuhm, straw
23:15.39scroogeheh
23:15.41lauriyou know that was an april fools joke, right?
23:15.49strawDOH!
23:15.53scroogeholy shit
23:15.54scroogeit was!?
23:16.01lauriuhh, yes
23:16.02scroogesubversion was a joke also?
23:16.09lauri(didn't the names give it away?)
23:16.16strawdamn it. they got me. those bastards
23:16.17laurino, SVN is not a joke
23:16.22scroogeahh ok
23:16.27scroogelies! haha
23:17.38ScArE2100_aseigo_h: now I am dieing just waiting for kde 4 ;)
23:17.42scroogemm-k booting to kde
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23:17.57strawhere i am a week later still believing it... *sigh*
23:18.54aseigo_hsubversion's not a joke ... we are moving to svn
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23:20.14strawthat should be interesting
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23:21.30scrooge:D:D
23:21.32scroogelove teh kde
23:21.35straw"The bastard son of Hitler is called Ariel Sharon!"
23:21.40strawwtf?
23:22.09Alethesyeah, that makes sense.  Sharon wants to exterminate the Jews.
23:22.10Alethesheh
23:22.17Alethes(sarcasm, of course)
23:22.22scroogeerhm
23:22.23scroogewtf
23:22.23strawthe world is a strange place
23:22.31scroogewhen u [X] kopete im window, it doesnt exit?
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23:25.15strawscrooge: it should be still there in the System Tray
23:25.55scroogeim windows go into the systray too!?
23:26.47strawoh. well no. what did you think would happen when you close a window
23:27.25strawdoh. this is turning out to be a very bad day...
23:29.03scroogestraw, umm...it should "close"
23:29.09scroogethats what X does right? :?
23:29.21scroogeim not referring to the buddy list menu
23:29.22strawyeah, i misread. :/
23:29.26scrooge:)
23:30.02scroogeits weird. cuz i X a im, then i open a new buddy im and magically, the X'd im is there in another tab :S
23:30.32strawthis a release or cvs?
23:30.46scroogerelease
23:31.08strawyou know what to do :)
23:31.51scrooge??
23:31.57scroogebitch and moan more?
23:33.18strawgo to b.k.o, look for kopete bugs. then file a new, or add to ang existng, bug report
23:33.36scroogeblahh. bitching is sooo much funner :P
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23:33.47strawmore fun
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23:56.49BadManwhere would you find to enable/disable the spell-as-you-go feature for kmail?  for some reason it has quit and I don't remember disabling it?
23:57.10BadManbtw it stillw orks in kopete IM.
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23:59.10thiagoit disables automatically if you type too wrong :-P
23:59.32thiagobut every once in a while it retests and if the correct/misspelt ratio goes above a certain threshold, it reenables

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