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00:06.51 | pembo13 | how do i get knotes to save? |
00:07.30 | thiago | it saves automatically |
00:08.32 | pembo13 | ok, then how do i get it to open what it has saved? |
00:09.35 | pembo13 | because every time i close knotes i loose everything |
00:09.52 | pembo13 | as in, when i launch knotes again later, nothing is there |
00:10.08 | pembo13 | and was really starting to like it |
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00:13.44 | Toman | Hi, can I configure the look of kpf directory listings? |
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00:15.10 | pembo13 | thiago, any suggestions? |
00:15.37 | _neoclust | hi |
00:18.59 | pembo13 | hello |
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00:21.13 | neoclust | hi pembo13 |
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00:22.34 | pembo13 | sorry about that |
00:22.42 | pembo13 | i can't get knotes to save my notes |
00:23.32 | jono | can you all do me a favour |
00:23.50 | pembo13 | jono, what's that? |
00:23.55 | jono | my band is in a national competition in the UK, and I need people to vote for the band by going to a link |
00:24.08 | jono | if we win we basically get singed and play a large festival |
00:24.14 | jono | http://www.snickersunsigned.co.uk/snickersunsigned/voting/votedetail.asp?bandid=952&startat=0 |
00:24.18 | jono | thanks :) |
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00:24.41 | pembo13 | jono, cool |
00:24.47 | jono | pembo13, :) |
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00:31.39 | un3x | hmmm, i have to wait half a second when i click with the mouse, for it to hold |
00:31.43 | un3x | how to fix? |
00:31.58 | damjan | pembo13: what kde is that? |
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00:35.10 | max | hi all |
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00:37.18 | aseigo | jono: hey =) |
00:37.39 | aseigo | jono: btw, you know zack greant? |
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00:41.40 | lippel | can't play the samples :-/ |
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00:43.10 | lippel | jono: which format is used for the stream? |
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00:43.28 | aseigo | lippel: it's mp3 |
00:44.55 | lippel | weird |
00:47.20 | jono | aseigo, yep :) |
00:47.28 | jono | lippel, which stream? the lugradio one? |
00:47.50 | jono | aseigo, sorry for not replying to your mail yet - its been hectic here |
00:47.58 | jono | aseigo, did you vote? :) |
00:48.17 | jono | zak is a good pal of mine |
00:48.18 | lippel | jono: your seraphidian tracks |
00:48.34 | jono | lippel, oh, they are mp3 files I think |
00:48.41 | jono | not sure how kerrang stream them |
00:48.57 | jono | lippel, you can hear the band at seraphidian.com |
00:49.18 | aseigo | jono: crazy... i used to hang with zack back when he was a php documenter |
00:49.23 | aseigo | jono: he's from calgary as well |
00:49.43 | jono | aseigo, wow, cool |
00:49.50 | jono | aseigo, I met him at EuroFoo in Holland |
00:49.51 | aseigo | jono: so when i saw him in the Cc list on that email i was like, "how the fuck does jono know him?" =) |
00:49.53 | lippel | jono: ah, that works ;-) |
00:50.00 | aseigo | jono: that would explain it.. yeah, he's a cool guy |
00:50.01 | jono | lippel, :) |
00:50.09 | jono | this competition is a big deal |
00:50.17 | jono | if we get through we are basically gonna get signed :) |
00:50.19 | Blissex | aseigo: Calgary? isnt that where DeRaadt lingers menacingly? |
00:50.24 | aseigo | Blissex: same place |
00:50.57 | Blissex | aseigo: Uhm Calgary... Must be a hotbed of freeware. |
00:51.00 | aseigo | Blissex: the guy who ran quakeforge (when that was still relevant and interesting ;) lived in Calgary too |
00:51.05 | Toman | Hi, can I configure the look of kpf directory listings? |
00:51.27 | aseigo | Blissex: then there's Security Focus, which is Calgarian (though bought by semantic last year) |
00:52.02 | aseigo | Blissex: one of my friends (who actually worked for me for abuot a year) worked for them (left after the purchase) ... he found the last major hole in sendmail.. |
00:52.19 | aseigo | it's funny.. there's a bunch of people in Calgary that are pretty hard core |
00:52.39 | aseigo | and then there's a bunch of really low skill people. very little inbetweeners |
00:52.54 | Blissex | aseigo: starting to think that Calgary must indeed have quite a few hardcore guys. I knew a game programmer in Calgary whose father had a classic PC shop there. A bit of a nutter though. |
00:53.59 | darkcmd | what does KDE 3.4 look like by default? |
00:54.45 | aseigo | but the market for open source developers is growing here, which is nice. it seems to be quite good in the Vancouver region too |
00:54.48 | aseigo | darkcmd: http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Screenshots |
00:55.13 | aseigo | darkcmd: http://www.tuxmachines.org/gallery/kde3-4/kde34_12 is a decent enough example |
00:55.45 | darkcmd | so the kmenu has a new icon? |
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00:56.23 | Berto | hi - i just switched to kde from gnome finally at home!!! so happy |
00:56.39 | aseigo | Berto: =)) |
00:56.53 | Berto | how can i change the behavior of control-tab? i want to use this in gaim only, but in KDE it wants to switch desktops |
00:57.06 | aseigo | Berto: in the keyboard shortcuts control panel |
00:57.10 | thiago | lippel: influence it |
00:57.13 | Berto | aseigo: yeah i became a system admin at a linux lab, and we use kde there... and i've finally had enough of gnome at home |
00:57.24 | aseigo | Berto: if you have 3.4, there's a nice little search line there that you can enter some text to limit it =) |
00:57.51 | Berto | aseigo: using mandrake 10.1, kde 3.2 here... |
00:58.03 | Berto | what's this control panel? i've been configuring things through mandrake's menus one at a time |
00:58.09 | lippel | thiago: better not. my artistical skills are so bad, it would look worse than twm ;-) |
00:58.18 | lippel | i can only vote |
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00:58.22 | thiago | lippel: I'm not saying "draw" |
00:58.40 | thiago | lippel: but you can give your opinion |
00:58.50 | lippel | sure |
00:58.54 | Sirus | Is there a better program than KDE's Desktop Sharing program? |
00:59.51 | aseigo | Sirus: better in which way? |
01:00.08 | thiago | Sirus: NX |
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01:00.20 | aseigo | lippel: blue is actually a good colour for a lot of reasons. but the desktop will likely be a lot less saturated. esp the icons and what not |
01:00.38 | aseigo | thiago: depends on what he wants it for. if he wants remote control for help desk type functions, NX ain't it =) |
01:00.54 | aseigo | if he wants true remote desktop functionality, then it probably is =) |
01:00.59 | thiago | aseigo: he didn't say, so I am free to assume anything :) |
01:01.19 | Berto | what's the command for kde control center? |
01:01.22 | thiago | aseigo: it's like in mailing lists: you don't say what distro you're using when you ask for help, you're bound to get a distro-specific answer that won't help you at all. |
01:01.25 | thiago | Berto: kcontrol |
01:01.48 | Blissex | aseigo: a ''zen'' flavour should have quite a bit of saffron... |
01:02.10 | Berto | thanks thiago |
01:02.11 | lippel | aseigo: to me it looks a bit sterile. like something useful you work with, but nothing you _enjoy_ to use. |
01:02.36 | lippel | but that's personal taste of course |
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01:03.49 | mattr | canllaith: still having kopete crashes? |
01:03.58 | Sirus | aseigo: well a vnc that wont do key repeats |
01:04.11 | lippel | but if less saturated means lighter, that's something i'll probably prefer myself |
01:04.36 | Sirus | if I use kde desktop sharing when I vnc in from lets say a windows box it'll make me type "soooooooooooooooommmmmmmmmmmeeeeeeeeeeeethinggggggggggggg liiiike this" |
01:04.39 | Sirus | ;/ |
01:04.49 | Sirus | thiago: NX? is that nomachine? |
01:05.10 | thiago | Sirus: yes |
01:05.33 | Sirus | thiago: dont you need a key for that? |
01:06.05 | aseigo | lippel: less saturated means that the colours won't be so bright and gaudy everywhere |
01:06.29 | thiago | Sirus: use FreeNX |
01:06.56 | Berto | where in the kde control center do i change the default browser? I'm firefox all the way |
01:06.59 | aseigo | lippel: to you blue looks sterile? hm.. well, it's the "colour" of water and the sky ... it's related to safety and performance IIRC... white is sterile =) |
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01:07.17 | aseigo | Berto: KDE Components -> Component Chooser |
01:07.17 | thiago | Berto: Components |
01:08.10 | Berto | i thought so, but there's only three things - E-mail, text editor, and terminal emulator |
01:08.37 | Sirus | thiago: does this have a gui? and is it easy to configure? I'd like to connect to my display and not get just a shell |
01:09.06 | thiago | Sirus: NX is the best for that, IMO |
01:09.46 | lippel | aseigo: don't know ;-) i myself prefer colors like wine read, beige, ocher etc.. or bright colors |
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01:10.17 | Sirus | thiago: so nxclient & nxserver-freenx? |
01:10.40 | thiago | Sirus: I'd say so |
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01:10.50 | kbrooks | Hi! I want to ask a question about a KDE program included in KDE 3.4. KGpg. How do I import a key, and how do I sign it? |
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01:11.43 | Sirus | thiago: hrmm thx do you use this software? |
01:12.06 | thiago | Sirus: yes |
01:12.24 | lippel | kbrooks: keys->import key/sign keys in the menu |
01:12.31 | Sirus | thiago: I dont suppose I can bug you if I run into problems? |
01:12.44 | kbrooks | ok |
01:12.48 | thiago | Sirus: you'll be hard put to find me online |
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01:13.30 | Sirus | thiago: ahh I see well hopefully this is easy to configure |
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01:17.53 | Sirus | thiago: thx btw |
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01:19.45 | LeeJunFan | is there any way in kde 3.4.0 to disable shortcuts based on the active window? So things like ctrl-tab use that windows shortcut instead of KDE's? |
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01:23.38 | cartel_ | query |
01:23.44 | cartel_ | is there a svn kioslave for kde? |
01:23.51 | thiago | kio_svn |
01:24.06 | cartel_ | thiago: whats the uri syntax? svn://? |
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01:24.37 | thiago | you have to find out first if you have it installed |
01:25.06 | cartel_ | roar.. no i dont |
01:25.27 | canllaith | mattr: Yes if I use the msn protocol |
01:25.35 | canllaith | and no it's nothing to do with my xml/xslt version |
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01:28.34 | cartel_ | thiago: is that in kdenonbeta? |
01:28.38 | cartel_ | what tree is it in ? |
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01:29.01 | mattr | canllaith: crappy |
01:29.21 | thiago | cartel_: kdesdk |
01:30.35 | cartel_ | thiago: thx |
01:30.41 | cartel_ | still cant find it in ubuntu or debian... |
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01:32.10 | Bac9 | anyone use k3b and can tell me why it says that a writer can write but is not allowing me to write to it? |
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01:33.04 | cartel_ | thiago: even kio_cvs is not there... |
01:34.01 | cartel_ | wait |
01:34.04 | cartel_ | im on crack |
01:34.43 | aseigo | GIVE UPTHE CRACK, MAN! |
01:34.47 | aseigo | YOU CAN DO IT! |
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01:35.51 | Sirus | thiago: are their any good howto's to configure this server? |
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01:42.24 | JabberWokky | Anybody know what file contains the paths used in the Copy To... and Move To... context menus? |
01:42.30 | thiago | Sirus: not that I know of |
01:42.36 | JabberWokky | Not the history - the fixed ones. |
01:43.23 | Sirus | hrmm cool no errors compiling it |
01:43.34 | Sirus | thiago: so is their like a nxconfig? |
01:45.48 | Sirus | thiago: or do I just run nxclient? |
01:46.07 | JabberWokky | (found the startpoint - it's called "kuick-copy"... should be able to locate it from there) |
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01:58.14 | illogic-al | new konvi version .17 released! |
01:58.25 | illogic-al | it is teh awesome! go grab it! |
01:58.55 | mattr | bah, i'm using CVS :P |
01:59.12 | illogic-al | me too actually :-) |
01:59.32 | Sirus | hrmm |
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02:02.01 | Sirus | thiago: how do I get the nxserver started? |
02:02.35 | ryanoe | <PROTECTED> |
02:03.36 | Sirus | not i ;/ |
02:04.01 | thiago | nxserver --start |
02:04.38 | Sirus | thiago: nxclient is the the configuration portion? I need it to listen on a certain port didn't see that option in nxclient |
02:05.19 | aseigo | GIVE UPTHE CRACK, MAN! |
02:06.21 | slayerbob | that's a really weird bot you have there aseigo |
02:06.40 | Bac9 | anyone use k3b and can tell me why it says that a writer can write but is not allowing me to write to it? |
02:07.03 | aseigo | Bac9: linux? |
02:07.08 | Sirus | NXSERVER - Version 1.4.0-02 OS_(GPL) |
02:07.08 | Sirus | Usage: nxserver <option> |
02:07.08 | Sirus | --passwd: Change password |
02:07.23 | Bac9 | aseigo: I know of no k3b for anything else |
02:07.30 | Sirus | Thats what I get when in I do the nxserver --start |
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02:07.38 | aseigo | Bac9: it runs on other os's =) |
02:07.41 | Sirus | and nxserver --passwd is no help |
02:07.42 | aseigo | Bac9: what kernel version are you using? |
02:07.49 | Bac9 | aseigo: 2.6.10 |
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02:09.25 | _poison | hi ^ |
02:09.27 | _poison | ^^ |
02:09.57 | Bac9 | aseigo: so any advice? |
02:10.03 | derekkite | Bac9: writing kubuntu install iso as we speak |
02:10.12 | _poison | when finding & replacing text with i.e. kate ... how do I insert a tab char into the replacement ? \t wont work =/ |
02:10.24 | Bac9 | derekkite: and how does that help answer mny question? |
02:10.34 | derekkite | Bac9: doesn't |
02:11.30 | derekkite | Bac9: did you do the k3b setup, giving it a root password and all? and is it recent? look for cdrecord and suid on google |
02:12.12 | derekkite | Bac9: if you don't have a recent k3b, you have to unset the suid bit on cdrecord, or something like that. google will tell all |
02:12.41 | slayerbob | although really if you can recompile a kernel you should be able to recompile k3b too :P |
02:12.47 | slayerbob | and thusly have the latest version thereof |
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02:13.43 | Bac9 | derekkite: no I did not set up as root, I just started it up and it found the cdwriter itself, but insists on calling it a cdrom, the version is as recent as debian/sarge |
02:15.54 | derekkite | Bac9: k3b has a setup somewhere (can't look atm) that will set permissions etc on the various things it needs. it will ask for a password (or does here) to do that. |
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02:16.27 | Bac9 | derekkite: the permissions look ok, they are rw for cdrom, and I am in cdrom |
02:16.37 | Bac9 | derekkite: group cdrom that is |
02:17.00 | Bac9 | derekkite: but what I am looking at is options->devices |
02:17.47 | derekkite | Bac9: just a sec, i'm burning as we speak and can't look |
02:18.24 | Bac9 | derekkite: k, tell me when |
02:18.42 | Bac9 | derekkite: I am totally new to this whole cd burning thing so don't really know much about it |
02:18.59 | mattr | derekkite: might want to put the fire out, wouldn't want to take you to the hospital with third degree burns. ;) |
02:19.28 | derekkite | Bac9: in K3b Settings->K3B Setup |
02:19.57 | Bac9 | mattr: different people have different forms of entertainment :-) |
02:20.23 | Bac9 | derekkite: what about Settings->Configure K3b? |
02:20.29 | Bac9 | derekkite: what about Settings->Configure K3b->Devices? |
02:22.27 | derekkite | Bac9: run Settings->K3B Setup and it will do all the permission stuff it needs to run. let it do it's thing and it will just work |
02:23.28 | derekkite | I'm off. if all is well I'll be running kubuntu in an hour or so |
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02:24.47 | Bac9 | anyone else feel like guiding me through k3b writer setup? |
02:25.41 | ryanoe | Anyone in here use mencoder to RIP DVDS? |
02:26.53 | Bac9 | maybe I should just use mkisofs by hand and forget all this gui stuff? |
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02:31.14 | _poison | ryanoe: yes ... |
02:32.04 | ryanoe | _poison what is the best command to get the file to 700MB or under? |
02:32.11 | ryanoe | What command do you usually run? |
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02:33.26 | _poison | mencoder -dvd-device /mnt/dvd -ovc xvid -xvidencopts bitrate=800:me_quality=4:gmc:vhq=4 -oac mp3lame -lame opts mode=1:vbr=2:q=6 dvd://1 -alang de -o /home/$USER/your.avi |
02:33.53 | _poison | ryanoe: change lang to your requirements =) |
02:34.46 | _poison | ryanoe: you may even try bitrate=900 ... but with 800 I still get really good quality ... |
02:37.01 | ryanoe | Oh? |
02:37.12 | ryanoe | This is my command |
02:37.15 | ryanoe | mencoder dvd://1 -chapter 1-1 -dvd-device /dev/cdrom -aspect 16:9 -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg4 -vop cropdetect,scale -zoom -xy 640 -oac mp3lame -lameopts br=128 -ni -o clear.avi |
02:38.41 | ryanoe | I guess I need to get to bed now |
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03:02.16 | Bac9 | Octane: are you in-sane? |
03:02.36 | Octane | lol |
03:02.38 | Octane | insane in the membrane |
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03:25.49 | Bac9 | anyone use k3b and can tell me why it says that a writer is capable of writing but is not allowing me to write to it? |
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03:26.24 | mattr | wrong user, wrong group |
03:26.27 | mattr | wrong permissions for the user |
03:26.30 | mattr | wrong permissions for the group |
03:26.47 | mattr | not using ide-scsi for writers on 2.4.x |
03:27.45 | Bac9 | mattr: user is myself, I am in cdrom group, device is in cdrom group, device gives rw to cdrom group, using 2.6.10 |
03:28.13 | MrGrim | what is the error message? |
03:28.17 | mattr | Bac9: does the output of groups indicate that you are in fact in the cdrom group? |
03:28.26 | Bac9 | mattr: yes |
03:28.42 | mattr | MrGrim: dude, dunno if you got my email, but the patch you sent me for starfire cards works beautifully |
03:28.48 | Bac9 | MrGrim: no error message, just doesn't want to list it as a drive that I can burn to |
03:28.55 | MrGrim | I got it :D |
03:28.58 | MrGrim | glad it worked |
03:29.12 | mattr | Bac9: can you use cdrecord manually and have it work? |
03:29.52 | Bac9 | mattr: have not tried, but xcdroast does detect the writer as a writer |
03:29.52 | MrGrim | I've had my new home server running a dual port starfire for a bit now.. it's a very nice card once it works :D |
03:30.03 | MrGrim | thought you said k3b? |
03:30.21 | Bac9 | MrGrim: k3b doesn't want to see the writer as a writer |
03:30.34 | Dhraakellian | Qt = "cute"? |
03:30.47 | mattr | Dhraakellian: yeah |
03:30.53 | Dhraakellian | heh |
03:31.00 | Dhraakellian | cue-tee |
03:31.03 | Bac9 | Dhraakellian: only on the outside, and that's up to debate |
03:31.23 | cartel_ | whats a starfire |
03:32.16 | Bac9 | mattr, MrGrim: any ideas? |
03:32.16 | MrGrim | adaptec duralan nic's |
03:32.16 | MrGrim | Bac9: ya, try using cdrecord and get an error message :) |
03:32.17 | mattr | Bac9: what MrGrim said |
03:32.32 | MrGrim | cartel_: the 2.6 driver has a bug that causes random bits of memory to be fed through the Rx buffer, instead of actual Rx data |
03:32.39 | Bac9 | mattr, MrGrim: but would there be error messages if xcdroast detects the writer as a writer? |
03:32.39 | MrGrim | bad logic detecting dma address size |
03:32.47 | MrGrim | but only with HIGHMEM4G |
03:33.00 | MrGrim | Bac9: don't use xcdroast |
03:33.06 | MrGrim | try a straight cdrecord burn of an iso |
03:33.17 | MrGrim | cdrecord's error would be much more useful |
03:33.32 | MrGrim | cartel_: they ignored my patch on LKML :/ |
03:33.53 | cartel_ | eek |
03:33.55 | Bac9 | MrGrim: I wanted to use a gui to burn a collection of files on a cd, i guess I'll just stick to mkisofs+cdrecord then? |
03:34.03 | mattr | MrGrim: you might want to see if you can feed it through another kernel developer or through your distribution |
03:34.05 | canllaith | Which kernel version too? |
03:34.11 | mattr | 2.6.10 |
03:34.14 | canllaith | If you look on k3b website there are some kernel versions they just don't recommend you use |
03:34.27 | canllaith | Ah, that works ok here. |
03:34.35 | cartel_ | Here too |
03:34.38 | Bac9 | canllaith: is 2.6.10 one of them? |
03:34.41 | MrGrim | mattr: all the e-mail addresses for the starfire maintainer are dead |
03:34.44 | MrGrim | I can't locate him |
03:34.50 | MrGrim | so I sent it to lkml and linux-net |
03:34.51 | canllaith | 2.6.10 works ok here |
03:34.53 | mattr | i have 2.6.11 so you all suck, except canllaith |
03:34.55 | cartel_ | MrGrim: he is probably dead |
03:35.01 | canllaith | :) |
03:35.12 | MrGrim | and nobody noticed it on lkml |
03:35.12 | cartel_ | mattr: if you're lucky i nibble |
03:35.18 | canllaith | Which reminds me, I should grab 11.6 |
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03:35.24 | mattr | cartel_: hmm, yeah, a bit TMI |
03:35.28 | cartel_ | im sure canllainth sucks given the opportunity |
03:35.43 | mattr | cartel_: but nice to know for girl you snag |
03:35.58 | canllaith | Something you're extremely unlikely to ever know for sure there cartel_. |
03:35.58 | cartel_ | mattr: ex-snag |
03:36.18 | cartel_ | canllaith: hehe |
03:36.37 | cartel_ | i would have to be the lowest of the low trolling for blowjobs on #kde on freenode |
03:36.47 | Bac9 | mattr: I don't have space nor do I feel like sacrificing uptime to upgrade to 2.6.11, unless ofcoorse they fixed that X->console switch oops |
03:37.01 | canllaith | Indeed, given that there are 4 women regulars to 150~ men you might be surprised at who took you up on it too. |
03:37.14 | cartel_ | hehe |
03:37.20 | mattr | ahhahaha |
03:37.29 | cartel_ | its funny, you can tell people are pissed off by the fact they suddenly start Capitalising |
03:37.48 | canllaith | Either that or OCD |
03:37.57 | mattr | capitalization sucks |
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03:38.21 | cartel_ | so does capitalisation |
03:38.42 | cartel_ | in fact capitalisation can suck my wang |
03:38.42 | canllaith | I'm inclined to feel capitalisation doesn't suck as badly as capitalization. |
03:38.50 | mattr | ha! |
03:38.54 | mattr | two against one, we win |
03:38.56 | mattr | :) |
03:39.12 | canllaith | mmmm so what picture should I select for mattr |
03:39.29 | cartel_ | canllaith: when the revolution comes you will surely be against the wall |
03:39.32 | cartel_ | suck or no. |
03:39.43 | mattr | eww, my hackergotchi is fuckin' ugly |
03:39.44 | canllaith | With the rest of the mindless jerks ? :) |
03:39.45 | mattr | i hate that thing |
03:39.55 | mattr | but i also like |
03:39.56 | mattr | it |
03:39.59 | cartel_ | canllaith: sure why not |
03:40.00 | mattr | because it's a hackergotchi |
03:40.00 | canllaith | mattr: hehehe so be nice to me baby or you find your way into documentation screenshots ;) |
03:40.09 | slayerbob | lol |
03:40.18 | mattr | canllaith: yeah, not worried about that, i'm always nice to you |
03:40.20 | mattr | :) |
03:41.18 | cartel_ | oh boy |
03:41.39 | cartel_ | inventing stuff to fill out my calendar at work |
03:41.43 | scrooge | 0.o |
03:41.44 | cartel_ | should put 8 hrs 'irc' |
03:41.57 | scrooge | hey peeps :) |
03:42.08 | canllaith | 'Technical support over a variety of electronic medium' |
03:42.09 | mattr | cartel: thursday: get blowjob, 1 hour. do irc. 4 hours. lunch 2 hours. sleep 1 hour |
03:42.18 | canllaith | Answer the next newbies quesiton when they come in, and it's not even a lie. |
03:42.34 | cartel_ | mattr: that would almost be my perfect thursday |
03:42.43 | slayerbob | and if it was a gentoo newbie it might even take the full 8 hours to answer :P |
03:42.56 | scrooge | 0.o |
03:43.02 | cartel_ | .org* |
03:43.04 | scrooge | ha |
03:43.16 | scrooge | gentoo rice...lol booo |
03:43.28 | scrooge | ok gentoo is starting to work my nerves >_< |
03:43.34 | cartel_ | canllaith: i have a friendgirl in perth who uses ubuntu on her laptop |
03:43.39 | scrooge | they dont be updating package version bumps...wtf |
03:43.49 | canllaith | Yup? :) |
03:44.14 | canllaith | oh, I can change the little folder icons on kopete buddy list |
03:44.19 | canllaith | oooh |
03:44.29 | scrooge | add it to teh l337 faq! |
03:44.50 | mattr | hmm, even though i use gentoo, i don't suck |
03:45.04 | canllaith | KDE developer are automatically non sucking. |
03:45.09 | scrooge | heh |
03:45.11 | mattr | why don't i suck? because i control all your AIM and ICQ activities |
03:45.26 | canllaith | Well... except the good kind of sucking, after a few too many drinks at a conference. |
03:45.27 | Bac9 | mattr: you still use oscar? |
03:45.31 | mattr | you want AIM and ICQ in kopete you gotta go through me baby, and i'll cut ya ass off. :) |
03:45.37 | cartel_ | canllaith: TMI |
03:45.42 | scrooge | haha |
03:45.48 | mattr | canllaith: we'll have to arrange that sometime. ;) |
03:45.49 | scrooge | 0=) |
03:45.51 | canllaith | mattr: Well, or use jabber transports |
03:45.54 | Bac9 | mattr: you mean oscar actually still works? |
03:46.00 | cartel_ | whats the hookup rate at konference |
03:46.03 | mattr | canllaith: jabber transports are teh suck ;) |
03:46.06 | canllaith | mattr: You sucking after a few too many drinks at a conference? ooh la lah, I'm telling your wife ;) |
03:46.15 | mattr | hmm.... |
03:46.17 | cartel_ | mattr: BUSTED |
03:46.23 | canllaith | Afterwards, of course. I wouldn't want to miss out :) |
03:46.36 | cartel_ | vom |
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03:46.56 | scrooge | oh wait |
03:46.59 | mattr | i've never been to a concert |
03:46.59 | scrooge | my pen fell |
03:47.03 | mattr | err, conference |
03:47.06 | scrooge | looked like i was bowing i suppose :P |
03:47.13 | canllaith | mattr: We should hook up at not the next one, one after |
03:47.17 | cartel_ | i imagine its terminally low |
03:47.22 | canllaith | I don't think I'll make it to the next one unless work pays |
03:47.33 | mattr | cartel_: actually, i know there's at least one person who always gets laid... |
03:47.35 | canllaith | ... which they're hinting about |
03:47.37 | cartel_ | seeing as there are very few women kde devels arent there? except in internationalisation |
03:47.46 | mattr | canllaith: u should get them to pay for me too. :) |
03:47.55 | canllaith | cartel_: That implies every male KDE devel is straight. Which isn't the case :) |
03:47.58 | mattr | canllaith: cause i don't think i'm going unless i can get somebody to help out a bit |
03:48.10 | mattr | or i get really rich. :D |
03:48.16 | mattr | being rich would be nice |
03:48.22 | mattr | that'd make me even cooler than i already am. :) |
03:48.37 | cartel_ | man if i went to konference i wouldnt be trying to get laid, or if i was it wouldnt be with konference people... unless there are some really hot kde girls i dont know about :) |
03:48.42 | canllaith | mattr: Aw :( Well, we'll see. Maybe I can start the 'get mattr legless and into my hotel room with that other hot kopete developer' fund |
03:48.43 | canllaith | I mean uh |
03:48.50 | canllaith | 'Get kopete developers to konference' fund |
03:48.52 | canllaith | Yeah, that one. |
03:48.52 | Bac9 | mattr: just drink some liquid ozone, that'd amke you real cool real fast |
03:48.59 | mattr | canllaith: ROTFL |
03:49.19 | canllaith | cartel_: Sorry, hot KDE girls all want mattr, sredna and aseigo. You'll have to get in line. |
03:50.05 | mattr | that's right |
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03:51.34 | daum | hey where do i set the arts system to true |
03:51.38 | daum | its in some file i forget where |
03:51.43 | cartel_ | canllaith: are you a kde developer groupie? |
03:51.48 | daum | but its because my sound system isn't making sound for my kde applicatoins |
03:51.49 | scrooge | heh |
03:51.51 | canllaith | No, I'm a developer. |
03:52.03 | mattr | daum: you're talking about overall, right? |
03:52.07 | scrooge | canllaith > * |
03:52.10 | daum | yeah |
03:52.14 | mattr | daum: it's in the control center, under sound system |
03:52.18 | daum | non no |
03:52.18 | cartel_ | canllaith: what do you develop? |
03:52.23 | daum | i had this prob before |
03:52.24 | scrooge | dam this dam bug |
03:52.26 | daum | the sound system is on |
03:52.30 | daum | its like some config file |
03:52.39 | mattr | hmm |
03:52.51 | mattr | kcmartsrc maybe? |
03:53.01 | canllaith | I write lots of documentation and have some small hacking on Kicker. My name is on the 'about' box for 3.4.0 Kicker. |
03:53.15 | cartel_ | canllaith: documentation is important :) |
03:53.18 | canllaith | Cause I'm so special. |
03:53.47 | scrooge | heh |
03:54.21 | daum | knotifyrc |
03:54.22 | daum | bam |
03:54.28 | mattr | yeah, that one |
03:54.51 | cartel_ | canllaith: except there is no about box for kicker |
03:54.54 | cartel_ | :) |
03:55.00 | canllaith | Of course not. |
03:55.01 | slayerbob | cartel_: of course there is |
03:55.10 | canllaith | There isn't for every other KDE application either. |
03:55.17 | canllaith | It's just a big scam, I admit it. |
03:55.19 | cartel_ | how do you get to it? |
03:55.27 | mattr | you gotta be fuckin' l33t. ;) |
03:55.28 | cartel_ | i just get kpanel about |
03:55.32 | daum | brb |
03:55.33 | canllaith | Help -> About KDE Panel |
03:55.36 | cartel_ | i suppose i could use dcop |
03:55.45 | mattr | brb. reboot |
03:55.46 | mattr | stupid box |
03:56.07 | scrooge | Thnks to |
03:56.08 | scrooge | ;) |
03:56.10 | scrooge | +a |
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03:58.43 | canllaith | wb mattr :) |
03:58.49 | mattr | thankies. :D |
04:01.59 | canllaith | You were implementing buddy icon support for me in AIM |
04:03.17 | mattr | yes, that'll take awhile |
04:03.33 | mattr | stupid asynchronousity issues |
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04:06.32 | canllaith | mattr: heh, has something in kopete broken the adium stylesheet code? |
04:07.00 | scrooge | haha BLAME MATTR |
04:07.08 | scrooge | dam sorry, couldnt resist :) |
04:07.18 | mattr | canllaith: not that i'm awareof |
04:07.30 | mattr | scrooge: :) |
04:07.34 | scrooge | haha |
04:08.25 | canllaith | It is very nice. |
04:09.49 | mattr | of course it is, i made it. :D |
04:09.55 | mattr | hehe |
04:10.02 | cartel_ | kdevelop rawx |
04:11.17 | scrooge | :P |
04:11.21 | scrooge | erhm |
04:11.27 | scrooge | wow how'd i ge tot this tab :S |
04:11.52 | cartel_ | scrooge: acid? |
04:12.08 | mattr | scrooge: magic |
04:12.12 | mattr | ok, off to bed. night all |
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04:12.30 | scrooge | lol |
04:12.38 | scrooge | TV DINNER :D |
04:12.39 | cartel_ | mushroom mushroom! |
04:12.45 | cartel_ | SNAKE SNAKE |
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04:15.05 | meeper | is this the developer's channel? |
04:15.11 | scrooge | maybe |
04:15.16 | scrooge | who wants to know o.0 |
04:15.17 | scrooge | haha |
04:15.22 | scrooge | #kde-devel also exists |
04:15.24 | meeper | scrooge: wtf is wrong with you? |
04:15.33 | scrooge | meeper, was joking but ok... |
04:15.38 | scrooge | wow you touchy |
04:15.47 | scrooge | dont watch movies? |
04:16.05 | meeper | scrooge: you're weird |
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04:16.10 | cartel_ | meeper: so are you |
04:16.13 | scrooge | i'll take that as a compliment |
04:16.19 | slayerbob | :P |
04:16.20 | scrooge | ^_^ |
04:16.24 | meeper | cartel_: no I'm 100% normal |
04:16.36 | cartel_ | not with a nick like meeper you arent. |
04:16.37 | cartel_ | meep meep! |
04:16.39 | scrooge | LOL |
04:16.41 | scrooge | roadrunner |
04:16.52 | meeper | cartel_: christ, you're weird too |
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04:17.07 | meeper | are there any normal people here? |
04:17.19 | marcusU | Not me. |
04:17.19 | cartel_ | meeper: a normal person uses windows |
04:17.20 | cartel_ | so no |
04:17.51 | scrooge | LOL |
04:18.12 | meeper | I just wanted to know about kde java bindings |
04:18.14 | marcusU | I missed the first part of the story, though. `` are there any normal people here?'' sounds like something I'd hear in a dating channel. |
04:18.29 | BamaJank | There are dating channels? |
04:18.35 | BamaJank | *shiver* |
04:18.43 | marcusU | Probably not on freenode. |
04:18.49 | BamaJank | I don't want to know what are on the opposing sides of the monitors.... |
04:18.59 | puetzk | BamaJank: yes, but unfortunately they're full of KDE developers :-) |
04:18.59 | BamaJank | LOL yeah....I come here to pick up chicks.... |
04:19.01 | cartel_ | heh |
04:19.05 | BamaJank | LOL puetzk |
04:19.08 | marcusU | I'm just a big tar pit in reality. |
04:19.25 | cartel_ | marcusU: you too? |
04:19.33 | cartel_ | marcusU: cambrian or precambrian? :) |
04:20.04 | marcusU | BamaJank: You really should be more flexible about gender if you're going to insist on picking up people in geeky chat channels. |
04:20.46 | cartel_ | i reckon |
04:20.50 | cartel_ | thats what #teen is for |
04:21.10 | BamaJank | You suggesting there are slim pickings, marcusU ? :-) |
04:21.25 | BamaJank | #teen? on freenode? LOL |
04:21.36 | marcusU | If you're looking for females, yeah. Most of the people on freenode are heterosexual males. |
04:21.47 | cartel_ | BamaJank: i meant on irc.othernetwork.com |
04:21.53 | BamaJank | LOL I wasn't looking, but it is quite humorous |
04:22.26 | BamaJank | besides at 40 I might get busted.... |
04:22.47 | marcusU | There's someone older than me? |
04:23.03 | BamaJank | There is always someone "older"... |
04:24.32 | scrooge | heh |
04:24.54 | canllaith | marcusU: brucehoult is 42, and I think grepper is around there. |
04:25.01 | canllaith | Lotsa people older than you. |
04:25.15 | marcusU | I didn't realize he was that old. |
04:25.30 | cartel_ | its interesting that there arent more 60+ oss programmers |
04:25.30 | Dhraakellian | n |
04:25.39 | Dhraakellian | wrong window |
04:25.57 | BamaJank | They all have the mouse to their ear cartel_ ... |
04:26.18 | canllaith | Yup, and his stepdaughter isn't that much younger than I am (well, 8 years but that's much less than the 20 years between he and I) |
04:27.45 | Bac9 | cartel_: alot of them seemed to GO SUB without RETURN :-) |
04:28.09 | meeper | wow, 40 must suck |
04:28.18 | slayerbob | why ? |
04:28.22 | canllaith | Why would it suck any more than 20 ? |
04:28.24 | slayerbob | when i am 40 i will still be 21 :) |
04:28.33 | sycofly | me too |
04:28.45 | canllaith | slayerbob: lol how many years have you been 21 now? 12? You're getting a lot of practice in =p |
04:28.54 | slayerbob | yuppers |
04:29.05 | slayerbob | i'm just starting to get good at being 21 now :P |
04:30.46 | marcusU | I might actually upgrade my PC soon. Wow. |
04:31.35 | canllaith | marcusU: have you decided on what drives yet? :) |
04:31.46 | cartel_ | slayerbob: do you celelbrate your 21st every year? |
04:31.55 | slayerbob | cartel_: darned straight |
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04:32.13 | cartel_ | slayerbob: yard glass, hundred club or 21 spots? |
04:32.15 | marcusU | canllaith: I'm not sure. I really want to wait for motherboards with SATA chipsets that support Native Command Queuing. |
04:32.28 | canllaith | marcusU: ok :) |
04:32.32 | slayerbob | cartel_: i have no idea what any of those mean |
04:32.48 | cartel_ | slayerbob: here in nz it is traditional to drink a yard glass of ale at 21 |
04:32.52 | puetzk | slayerbob: it's ok, when we went out on my 21st I was the DD :-) |
04:33.13 | cartel_ | some people do hundred club, which is 100 shots of beer in 100 minutes.. very difficult |
04:33.21 | cartel_ | stoners do 21 spots back to back |
04:33.22 | marcusU | Texas is considering a law prohibiting bars from serving alcohol to people who are 21 until after 7 am of the day they turn 21. |
04:33.23 | canllaith | cartel_: erm, slayerbob is a kiwi |
04:33.31 | puetzk | (it was a friend's bachelor party too, so it only got weirder from there) |
04:33.34 | cartel_ | oic |
04:33.54 | cartel_ | marcusU: because people die trying to do the power hour |
04:34.11 | marcusU | cartel_: Eh, I still think it's stupid. |
04:34.16 | marcusU | Besides, it's really 2 hours. |
04:34.28 | cartel_ | yeah, DYING from it is stupid |
04:35.08 | marcusU | I was reading an article about it in the newspaper, and someone was not telling the truth. The number of shots the person supposedly had did not match the BAC that was claimed. |
04:35.30 | cartel_ | much higher? |
04:35.44 | cartel_ | in all likelihood s/he was drinking for hours before getting to the bar. |
04:35.45 | marcusU | The BAC was supposedly 0.045 |
04:36.05 | cartel_ | thats high |
04:36.06 | marcusU | Yeah. What I'm saying is that you're not going to get to 0.045 very easily. |
04:36.45 | marcusU | They're talking about 21 shots in an hour? |
04:37.03 | cartel_ | 21 shots of what? absinthe? |
04:37.15 | marcusU | Probably hard-liquor, generally 40% ethanol by volume in the US. |
04:37.35 | slayerbob | do people drink shots of other things over there ? |
04:38.03 | marcusU | slayerbob: The most popular shots here are tequila or liqueurs. |
04:38.09 | slayerbob | mmmm tequila |
04:38.12 | cartel_ | agavera :) |
04:38.16 | marcusU | Tequila is typically 40%. Liqueurs are generally much lower, 20-40%. |
04:38.23 | cartel_ | 1800 :) |
04:38.44 | marcusU | 21 shots of hard liquor is a *lot*, even by my standards. |
04:38.51 | marcusU | 21 shots of liqueurs is not that much. |
04:39.09 | slayerbob | 21 shots is what? 750ml or so ? |
04:39.17 | marcusU | A shot is 1.5 floz. |
04:39.26 | marcusU | 21 shots is 31.5 floz. |
04:39.51 | marcusU | 21 shots == 932 ml. |
04:40.10 | slayerbob | that's more than i can drink without becoming ill |
04:40.34 | marcusU | I can drink about 20 floz of hard liquor without getting really sick. |
04:40.56 | slayerbob | i am fine so long as i don't mix the drinks :P |
04:41.20 | BamaJank | I managed a 5th once....and only once.... |
04:41.29 | marcusU | The thing is, my perceived degree of euphoria/intoxication is much more when I'm out in public than when I'm home alone. |
04:41.44 | marcusU | I've never really tried to drink a whole 5th. |
04:42.28 | BamaJank | Wasn't a try, was a "did"....long, long ago... |
04:42.47 | BamaJank | I wasn't up to "trying", depressing episode occured |
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04:43.01 | marcusU | My tolerance is very high. I did do 20 oz of rum once. I got so sick. |
04:43.18 | BamaJank | exactly marcusU , once.... |
04:43.29 | BamaJank | After that I couldn't tolerate the smell of JD |
04:44.25 | marcusU | I never liked the brown liquors. |
04:45.00 | marcusU | I thought about writing a Qt/KDE app for computing various items related to alcohol consumption. |
04:45.10 | slayerbob | :P |
04:45.11 | marcusU | Now I'm on-topic. :-) |
04:45.16 | BamaJank | ;-) |
04:45.27 | slayerbob | alcohol is always on topic in dev channels :P |
04:45.29 | marcusU | Actually, I was thinking about that as a demo app for my project. |
04:45.47 | marcusU | Speaking of which, my 6 floz of vodka is just kicking in. |
04:46.15 | BamaJank | field study for your app? |
04:47.08 | marcusU | Uh, yeah, sure. |
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04:47.54 | marcusU | Select amount of beverage. Select %ethanol. Select "by mass/by volume". Select weight and gender. And there you go. |
04:48.09 | slayerbob | no no no |
04:48.15 | slayerbob | you need far more options than that |
04:48.22 | slayerbob | like check boxes for nationality |
04:48.36 | slayerbob | or a drop down box |
04:48.42 | slayerbob | since i guess everyone must be from somewhere |
04:48.49 | marcusU | Nationality should just affect the metabolism, not the peak amount. |
04:49.19 | slayerbob | yeah but if the metabolism is higher then the peak amount will not be so high |
04:49.42 | slayerbob | because some of it will already be metabolised by the time the last drinks are being consumed |
04:49.48 | marcusU | If you assume that all the drinks are taken at the same time and immediately absorbed, the peaks will be the same. |
04:49.55 | slayerbob | LOL |
04:49.56 | marcusU | But yeah, some people are slow metabolizers. |
04:50.04 | slayerbob | so what you are saying is that you are a physicist ? |
04:50.11 | slayerbob | :P |
04:50.49 | marcusU | But also, chronic drinkers metabolize alcohol much faster. For example, the CYP enzyme system does not normally work on alcohol much, but in chronic drinkers, it does. |
04:51.17 | slayerbob | that was why i suggested the nationality :P |
04:51.27 | slayerbob | since all nzers and australians are chronic drinkers :P |
04:51.33 | slayerbob | koreans too from what i gather :P |
04:51.46 | marcusU | Orientals do not metabolize ethanol well. |
04:52.05 | slayerbob | i think you'll find that's just due to the huge amounts that they consume :P |
04:52.11 | slayerbob | probably causes liver damage or something |
04:52.46 | marcusU | But they seem to be deficient in a lot of enzymes, both the CYP (P450) and the ALD/ALDH. |
04:52.51 | marcusU | s/ALD/ADH/ |
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05:01.31 | cartel_ | marcusU: you should write a kde app that rates girls based on number of drinks before they are shaggable |
05:01.47 | cartel_ | actually the bodyweight one would be useful |
05:01.54 | marcusU | cartel_: Uh, I'm quite unqualified to rate girls. |
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05:02.03 | canllaith | Yes, since real men need to get girls drunk before they can get some. |
05:02.51 | marcusU | canllaith: Hey, it also works with guys. Guys are a lot more likely to come home with me when they're drunk. |
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05:03.15 | cuneyt | hi.. where can i change kde theme ? |
05:03.51 | scrooge | ? |
05:03.59 | scrooge | Yes, since real men need to get girls drunk before they can get some. |
05:03.59 | canllaith | marcusU: I know you better than that - I can't imagine you wanting to pick up a guy for a casual ... |
05:04.06 | scrooge | rofl |
05:04.16 | cuneyt | .. |
05:04.28 | canllaith | cuneyt: in Kcontrol |
05:04.38 | scrooge | first tab |
05:04.44 | scrooge | theme manager |
05:04.52 | marcusU | canllaith: I have taken men home, but it was more a desire to alleviate loneliness than anything. I mean, realistically, you're not going to get sex when both of you have been out drinkikng all night. |
05:05.09 | scrooge | lies |
05:05.11 | scrooge | shit happens |
05:05.13 | canllaith | marcusU: too true. |
05:05.21 | scrooge | i seen movies man! |
05:05.27 | scrooge | dharma and greg! |
05:05.31 | r00tsh3ll | am i really reading this? |
05:05.36 | r00tsh3ll | LOL |
05:05.39 | scrooge | lol |
05:05.47 | scrooge | iunno wtf they talking bout :) |
05:05.52 | scrooge | like to bud in :D |
05:06.46 | scrooge | oh yes |
05:06.47 | cuneyt | and where can i find good themes :) |
05:06.53 | gcbirzan | Google. |
05:06.56 | straw | the '70s featured some bad outfits... |
05:07.00 | scrooge | kde-look.org |
05:07.03 | scrooge | brb...UT match |
05:07.09 | scrooge | people think they can beat me...HA! |
05:07.23 | Dhraakellian | Unreal Tournament and be right back? |
05:07.24 | Dhraakellian | heh |
05:07.28 | canllaith | the 80's were worse =p |
05:07.36 | scrooge | UT2k4! |
05:07.39 | Dhraakellian | must be really good, really bad, or only marginally interested |
05:07.48 | Dhraakellian | or something |
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05:08.25 | canllaith | Ah. Scary costumes. |
05:08.59 | Dave321 | I have keychain set up but KWallet (in KDE 3.4) still prompts for my ssh passwords on EVERY FILE ACCESS! Annoying! How can I get rid of these annoying password prompts? |
05:09.05 | straw | yeah, it's the dfinition of campy |
05:09.41 | r00tsh3ll | will the taskbar v2 be part of kde 4? |
05:10.03 | Dhraakellian | didn't it get merged back in as of 3.4? |
05:10.15 | canllaith | I don't think it can be actually |
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05:10.23 | r00tsh3ll | why? |
05:10.30 | canllaith | It violates licenses...... |
05:10.52 | canllaith | The person who made it stuffed up basically |
05:10.53 | r00tsh3ll | like kopete and others? |
05:11.05 | canllaith | No, as in the person took code from kicker, removed all the copyright information etc |
05:11.12 | canllaith | they violated the gpl |
05:11.15 | straw | lame |
05:11.50 | straw | i guess some people just don't get it |
05:12.41 | straw | not about licensing, but just respecting someone's hard work :/ |
05:12.57 | canllaith | Yeah, that kinda sucks. |
05:13.04 | canllaith | You gotta give credit where it's due. |
05:13.32 | cuneyt | which file i'll select on theme manages ? |
05:13.36 | cuneyt | manager* |
05:13.37 | straw | anyway, Steve's in a ghost town wearing some bad pants :) |
05:14.11 | Dhraakellian | is it possible to tell when the code was taken and see whose kicker code it was? |
05:14.54 | canllaith | hahah here it is |
05:14.57 | canllaith | http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2004/11/if-you-are-too-stupid-to-understand.html |
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05:15.55 | canllaith | so what that all comes down to is |
05:16.05 | r00tsh3ll | taskbar developers should just implement those features.. |
05:16.09 | canllaith | taskbarv2 can't be merged back, because the author did a god awful hack job. |
05:16.14 | r00tsh3ll | they're nice anyways.. |
05:16.32 | canllaith | Well, if he wants to do it and has the time and the incentive sure I bet he will. |
05:17.48 | cartel_ | hahaha |
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05:24.45 | r00tsh3ll | This post has been removed by a blog administrator. /me should give one finger to see that |
05:26.15 | marcusU | Hi canllaith |
05:26.23 | r00tsh3ll | 02:30am -.- good night all. |
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05:54.22 | kendrick | cruuuud |
05:54.27 | kendrick | where does kwallet keep its passwords? |
05:54.44 | kendrick | i apparently did not copy it from my backup .kde folder when i upgraded |
05:55.44 | chakie | kendrick: maybe .kde/share/apps/kwallet/kdewallet.kwl |
05:55.53 | kendrick | yeah, i moved that |
05:55.55 | chakie | that's a binary file |
05:56.11 | kendrick | -rw-r--r-- 1 kendrick kendrick 34248 2005-04-06 00:52 kdewallet.kwl |
05:56.19 | kendrick | but when i run kwalletmanager, it shows no wallets |
05:56.26 | kendrick | and konq isn't filling in passwords for sites any more |
05:56.27 | chakie | i have no other files the look like passwords |
05:56.30 | kendrick | and i can't seem to do ANYTHING in kopete :^/ |
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05:57.44 | kendrick | i was able to log into something yesterday |
05:57.45 | kendrick | hrm |
05:58.11 | chakie | i have a few other settings files, but nothing with passwords in it |
05:58.44 | kendrick | it's as though konq isn't talking to kwallet at all |
05:59.08 | chakie | is kwallet enabled? |
05:59.51 | chakie | i'd say it happily ignores all passwords if it's not |
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06:02.27 | kendrick | cool that did it ;) |
06:03.18 | cartel_ | kendrick: i imagine the wallets cant be copied from machine to machine |
06:03.27 | kendrick | it's the same machine :) |
06:03.35 | kendrick | i just upgraded to kde 3.4 (alioth.debian) |
06:03.35 | cartel_ | but you upgraded :) |
06:03.57 | cartel_ | woot |
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06:07.08 | chakie | kendrick: you maybe didn't get the kwalletrc file which says if kwallet is enabled or not |
06:07.22 | kendrick | nah, i copied that, too |
06:07.44 | kendrick | then things started not working ;) |
06:07.49 | kendrick | so i just restarted KDE and all seems well |
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06:20.40 | hutze | kpdf shows the whole path to the pdf-file in the title. kpdf running inside of konqueror shows only the file-name. can i tell kpdf to only show the title as well ? |
06:21.14 | hutze | i mean "can i tell kpdf to only show the file-name in the title as well" |
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06:35.19 | cruz | where do you set up a vnc server in kde? its built in somewhere isnt it? |
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06:50.11 | scrooge | cruz, yes |
06:50.24 | scrooge | krfb and krdc i think it is |
06:50.50 | scrooge | latter is the client |
06:50.56 | scrooge | yep |
06:51.02 | scrooge | krfb is server, krdc is client |
06:52.01 | cruz | yeah i found it |
06:52.01 | cruz | thanks |
06:52.02 | cruz | :) |
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06:52.29 | scrooge | mm-k come again |
06:52.32 | scrooge | ? heh |
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06:57.43 | hutze | like konqueror --new-tab file.pdf ? |
06:58.16 | hutze | konqueror --help-all doesnt show anything, so i guess not. |
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07:00.02 | scrooge | maybe dcop? |
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07:18.39 | illogic-al | I have returned! |
07:18.53 | illogic-al | I actually got some studying done tonight. |
07:19.14 | illogic-al | and i even snuck some exercises in between (if pushups still count) |
07:19.46 | illogic-al | one more problem and this practice test'll be done and "YAY!" i'll be ready for my test |
07:20.37 | illogic-al | i can feel the nerdiness taking over again. teh awesome! |
07:21.03 | illogic-al | i wonder if anyone is actually watching me talk to myself? |
07:21.27 | illogic-al | would be quite embarassing to see screenshots of this pop up somewhere. |
07:21.56 | illogic-al | jesus rulz! |
07:22.02 | illogic-al | he saves too. |
07:22.36 | illogic-al | THE CHRISTIAN HAS TAKEN OVER #KDE |
07:22.42 | illogic-al | TRALALALALALA |
07:23.04 | illogic-al | i actually learned a bible verse today. |
07:23.16 | illogic-al | it's been a while since i've done that. |
07:23.52 | illogic-al | felt... oddly rewarding... even though i can no longer recall this supposedly memorized verse |
07:24.10 | illogic-al | 1st corinthians 12:6 though. i remember that much :-) |
07:24.39 | illogic-al | bah. i'll leave #kde to its sleep. |
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07:40.57 | callipygous | does anybody here have problems getting webpages to render correctly on konqueror, but have no troubles with opera, firefox etc? |
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07:43.11 | termo | callipygous: yep, everybody has that sometimes |
07:43.36 | termo | callipygous: but not with every page |
07:44.17 | callipygous | yeah |
07:44.30 | callipygous | seems to be with a lot of table use |
07:45.35 | termo | can you give an example? |
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07:47.29 | callipygous | nah, not really atm |
07:47.36 | callipygous | im sick, brb |
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07:48.52 | illogic-al | wb sarah03 |
07:49.08 | sarah03 | :) |
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07:51.20 | illogic-al | lol |
07:52.15 | sarah03 | nn & such then :) |
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08:08.33 | Dhraakellian | I would just like to state once again that I really don't like the way kmail can't remember my passwords between sessions |
08:08.41 | slayerbob | lol |
08:08.50 | slayerbob | it remembers my passwords just fine |
08:09.11 | Dhraakellian | I have to type them in each time I restart kmail |
08:09.33 | Dhraakellian | after the first check of the session, it remembers them until I quit |
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08:26.20 | termo | ot: hey, I thought april fools day was only on the 1st of april... http://tinyurl.com/44h4z |
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08:38.50 | nixbox | hi all |
08:38.57 | nixbox | i connect to my server using ssh, i want that the pwd should be displayed in the konsole title ... what should i do? Note that the pwd should be that of the server and should update whenever i change to another directory. |
08:41.08 | nixbox | another problem is that, when i ssh into my server using konsole, i have to set the erase key to ^?, the default one, however is ^H and always works with other window managers such as IceWm, whats the problem with konsole, in both cases (IceWm and KDE) the TERM environment variable is set to xterm. |
08:42.50 | termo | nixbox: create alias ssh / cd, and run it through a script that does so |
08:43.12 | termo | oh |
08:43.27 | nixbox | didnt get what you said |
08:43.35 | termo | well |
08:44.30 | termo | if you create an alias for ssh (alias ssh="/dir/myscript $*" (or something like that)) |
08:44.42 | termo | you can myscript |
08:44.55 | termo | and do the neccesary stuff |
08:45.13 | termo | +create somewhere |
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08:46.45 | nixbox | but if i create a script, i will first have to establish the ssh session right? the script wont return from that unless the session is terminated and no lines following the ssh connection command would be executed |
08:47.05 | nixbox | the script would contain the ssh connection command ... |
08:47.19 | termo | hmm |
08:48.13 | termo | if you need info from the server you will have to program some client-server thing to pass info |
08:48.39 | nixbox | yup thats what i thought |
08:48.56 | nixbox | i just wanted to ask here because i thought there might already be some hack for it :) |
08:49.42 | termo | well, off course you could do it the dirty way, and misuse some existing connections, like a mounted dir or something |
08:50.17 | termo | e-mail :P |
08:50.19 | nixbox | yeah but i dont want that :P |
08:50.40 | nixbox | by the way couldn't this be one of the konsole features? |
08:50.58 | termo | nope |
08:51.05 | nixbox | why? |
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08:51.36 | canllaith | look up stty |
08:51.41 | termo | because console can't detect if you're ssh'ing or anything, it's just a terminal emulator |
08:51.49 | canllaith | and there is absolutely no harm in filing a wish about it |
08:51.55 | canllaith | stty is prolly going to be your best bet though |
08:58.47 | termo | nixbox: if the server is running an X-server, you could start konsole remotely |
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08:58.59 | termo | then there's no problem |
08:59.44 | termo | uh |
08:59.53 | termo | it needs no X-server |
09:00.02 | termo | it just needs konsole+deps installed |
09:00.13 | termo | well, you get it I guess... |
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09:17.19 | [_]illogic-al | ah. another blog sucessfully wordpressed. |
09:17.36 | [_]illogic-al | http://illogic-al.org <---- SPAAAAAAAAM |
09:17.39 | scrooge | o.0 |
09:17.42 | scrooge | lol' |
09:17.57 | scrooge | mwahahaha |
09:18.08 | scrooge | didnt u have one? |
09:18.12 | katya | !!! "Today, I've finally embraced Gnome... It's so cool.." <- WHATS THIS!(&!*&??? |
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09:18.20 | katya | :> |
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09:18.52 | [_]illogic-al | katya: now that was jsut mena |
09:18.53 | scrooge | OMFG BLASPHEMY |
09:19.00 | [_]illogic-al | *mean |
09:19.05 | [_]illogic-al | :-p |
09:19.07 | katya | how did you get my email address :< |
09:19.11 | scrooge | lol |
09:19.12 | [_]illogic-al | lmao |
09:19.17 | scrooge | hax0red |
09:19.25 | katya | <- prawned |
09:19.27 | [_]illogic-al | i'm 3l173 |
09:19.38 | katya | with a capitol '3' |
09:19.44 | scrooge | :P |
09:19.47 | [_]illogic-al | 31!73 even |
09:20.31 | katya | yeah i get like, a billion spams a day |
09:20.40 | katya | i lack the equipment for 'male enhancement' to begin with |
09:20.44 | katya | talk about poor targetting. |
09:21.40 | katya | H1 Larisa *****, W0Ul> y0U L1k3 4 81GG3R R0D?! (yes) TH3N BUUYY N0W! |
09:21.55 | katya | some of them don't even have a product |
09:22.07 | katya | they just hope you randomly send them money for spewing crap into an email |
09:22.13 | slayerbob | lol |
09:22.14 | katya | congrats on getting past the mail filter... but... |
09:22.32 | slayerbob | i get lots of spam that complain that my email client won't run their attached virus thingo |
09:22.39 | katya | yeah, bang on |
09:22.58 | katya | or one saying "Get an HTML capable E-Mail client." |
09:23.04 | slayerbob | that's the one |
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09:23.15 | slayerbob | well... "Get a capable email client" is what i get |
09:23.22 | katya | right, there you go |
09:23.28 | canllaith | It makes me tempted to use pine forever. |
09:23.35 | scrooge | pinesol? |
09:23.42 | katya | kontact turns me on though |
09:23.54 | scrooge | omg hold all jizzes for #gnome |
09:23.55 | katya | and so far, so good, no kernel32.dll viruses yet |
09:24.03 | katya | lets go troll in #gnome! |
09:24.07 | katya | 1.20 is out! |
09:24.13 | canllaith | Lets not. Then they come here and troll back |
09:24.13 | katya | and it's just as lame as whatever was before it! :D |
09:24.15 | scrooge | lol |
09:24.20 | scrooge | stealth |
09:24.23 | katya | yeah, let's not try to teach the masters... |
09:24.23 | canllaith | and I'm using the Russian-roulette of IRC clients. |
09:24.28 | scrooge | haha |
09:24.31 | slayerbob | kopete ? |
09:24.32 | katya | ksirc? |
09:24.34 | canllaith | It does random banning |
09:24.39 | slayerbob | ohhh |
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09:24.44 | katya | :O |
09:24.45 | canllaith | You right click on a name and go 'ban' |
09:24.47 | slayerbob | that's ok though - it only bans kde devs :P |
09:24.54 | canllaith | and fuck me if it doesn't select someone totally at random |
09:25.00 | katya | i stopped using konversation the same day my shrink said i could stop taking my medication |
09:25.01 | scrooge | erhm |
09:25.08 | scrooge | haha |
09:25.10 | scrooge | konvi? |
09:25.26 | katya | well, i liked it anyway |
09:25.29 | canllaith | So gnomey trolls are not a good idea. |
09:25.32 | katya | it crashed though, so i made the switch |
09:25.50 | canllaith | It's nice and stable here, just that one annoyance |
09:25.51 | katya | frequently :< |
09:25.51 | scrooge | i tried gnome 2.10 for 8.36 sceonds |
09:25.55 | canllaith | and not a feature I use terribly often. |
09:26.02 | canllaith | scrooge: oooh do tell. |
09:26.04 | katya | scrooge: me too, when i installed ubuntu :D |
09:26.07 | scrooge | lol |
09:26.09 | katya | while kde was installing |
09:26.10 | scrooge | canllaith, oh yea |
09:26.14 | scrooge | i logged inb |
09:26.16 | scrooge | looked around |
09:26.21 | katya | it was great, all the icons were empty pages |
09:26.24 | scrooge | was like "wtf? wheres all the shit?" |
09:26.28 | scrooge | and loaded back kde...rofl |
09:26.33 | katya | the mp3 player crashed too :D |
09:26.36 | scrooge | lol |
09:26.41 | katya | didn't make it through a single song :( |
09:26.55 | katya | fresh install too, i swear :/ |
09:26.55 | [_]illogic-al | scrooge: all the "stuff" is bloat |
09:26.59 | [_]illogic-al | so they got rid of it |
09:27.08 | scrooge | haha |
09:27.18 | katya | i wonder when they'll whip up a Gnome KIO slave |
09:27.18 | scrooge | i had a bar with a foot |
09:27.19 | canllaith | Icons are bloat! :P Empty pages are much more usable |
09:27.20 | scrooge | and thats about it |
09:27.24 | scrooge | :P |
09:27.25 | katya | i want gnome to be my slave! |
09:27.42 | canllaith | That way users don't have to worry about all the different pictures. They just have a single consistant interface to their clickage. |
09:27.49 | katya | ...actually, i have no motivation to run anything gnome related... |
09:28.02 | katya | yes, and a very grey one at that :P |
09:28.07 | [_]illogic-al | katya: on the 5th of never. |
09:28.11 | [_]illogic-al | it's almost here |
09:28.22 | katya | octember the 32nd? |
09:28.36 | [_]illogic-al | neverember the 5th |
09:28.44 | [_]illogic-al | weren't you listening? :-p |
09:28.55 | katya | sounds like the debian sarge release date :x |
09:29.01 | [_]illogic-al | lol |
09:29.29 | katya | canllaith: i actually like the default keramik for some reason |
09:29.31 | [_]illogic-al | i should reeeeeally go to sleep now |
09:29.36 | scrooge | o.0 |
09:29.39 | katya | ohhh, it's only 2:30 :D |
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09:29.43 | slayerbob | [_]illogic-al: IRC > sleep |
09:29.45 | scrooge | 5:30am here :S |
09:29.48 | canllaith | http://www.hoult.org/~canllaith/foo/screenshots/kmenu-mod.png |
09:29.51 | [_]illogic-al | 5:33 here |
09:29.52 | scrooge | sl33p is for teh weeekkk |
09:29.55 | katya | bed! |
09:29.56 | [_]illogic-al | scrooge: lol |
09:30.07 | scrooge | :P |
09:30.12 | scrooge | [_]illogic-al, EDT here :D |
09:30.12 | [_]illogic-al | and you know, you're rigt :-) |
09:30.19 | katya | it's convenient for me, it's like.. a meter away :D |
09:30.31 | katya | oooh nice |
09:30.38 | katya | SF Technoremix |
09:30.41 | katya | amarok |
09:30.46 | katya | looks like my desktop :x |
09:30.59 | canllaith | I really like amaroK atm |
09:31.00 | scrooge | lol |
09:31.13 | katya | yeah, it's my new love |
09:31.18 | scrooge | canllaith, omg u h4x0r |
09:31.19 | canllaith | http://www.hoult.org/~canllaith/foo/ipod5.png |
09:31.27 | scrooge | kopete can look like that? lol |
09:31.28 | katya | i love the osd and album covers, and the scrobbler suggestions... |
09:31.31 | canllaith | erm? |
09:31.51 | canllaith | oh right |
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09:32.05 | [_]illogic-al | canllaith: all you had to do was plug it in to usb port? |
09:32.10 | scrooge | aww man. i need to hack my mnidisc |
09:32.14 | scrooge | minidisc^^ |
09:32.30 | canllaith | [_]illogic-al: recompiled kernel with hfsplus support, set up a udev rule to give me nice persistant naming with /dev/iPod |
09:32.36 | canllaith | created /mnt/ipod, started amaroK |
09:32.42 | [_]illogic-al | ahh |
09:32.45 | canllaith | If you used a distro other than slackare, yes you'd just plug the damn thing in :) |
09:32.48 | [_]illogic-al | so it requires work |
09:32.51 | [_]illogic-al | blah |
09:32.54 | canllaith | suse/mandrake/fedora/ubuntu all have hfsplus support by default |
09:33.04 | [_]illogic-al | yay |
09:33.53 | canllaith | scrooge: http://features.physos.net/im.php |
09:34.04 | [_]illogic-al | for some reason i just feel like shouting BSD 4 LIFE |
09:34.12 | [_]illogic-al | but i won't do that }:-) |
09:34.14 | scrooge | cuz u crazy? |
09:34.16 | scrooge | :P |
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09:34.43 | katya | http://24.70.236.165/snapshot1.png |
09:34.44 | [_]illogic-al | bah. i'm gone. sleepage |
09:34.46 | katya | :D |
09:34.57 | scrooge | canllaith, omg...you know too many tricks!!!1 |
09:35.16 | canllaith | I need to finish writing up that kopete section and the kpdf one |
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09:35.54 | canllaith | mmm yes, some good stuff there. |
09:36.04 | canllaith | Most written by physos. |
09:36.10 | wrs | Hi everybody |
09:36.16 | canllaith | Aha! I knew I had another one like that |
09:36.23 | scrooge | lol |
09:37.13 | SchopfeR | katya -> :x |
09:37.57 | canllaith | :) That's really nice looking keramik. |
09:38.45 | katya | wellllll it's stock |
09:38.56 | katya | except the pinkness |
09:39.16 | katya | actually, that's just kvirc |
09:39.19 | canllaith | I can't help myself. I have to download stuff from kde-look |
09:39.31 | slayerbob | i just have magic pixies :) |
09:39.38 | canllaith | lol! |
09:39.39 | katya | do i have my little remmon on there? |
09:39.48 | canllaith | speaking of, magic pixies need to go cvs up...... |
09:39.50 | katya | i can't remember now |
09:40.18 | katya | a little remote-wifi monitoring kde app i made :D |
09:40.23 | katya | in gambas, but still... |
09:40.32 | katya | oooh it is on there :D |
09:40.44 | katya | -88dBm, yay signal. |
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09:41.31 | scrooge | katya, !!! whats that thingie at the bottom in the systray that says c#? |
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09:42.17 | ExElNeT | hmm i cant get the mic of my usb headset working with teamspeak ... is there something else i should do with arts? i tried artsd -D hw:1,0 and artsdsp -m TeamSpeak any idea? |
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09:42.28 | katya | scrooge: kvirc :P |
09:42.32 | scrooge | :O |
09:42.33 | katya | connected : channel activity |
09:42.40 | scrooge | ahh |
09:42.56 | katya | [_]illogic-al: i commented :x on your klog |
09:43.10 | katya | scrooge: the new Realia is out ;) |
09:43.28 | scrooge | wahhh? |
09:43.45 | katya | ExElNeT: it should be set for full duplex |
09:43.57 | katya | ExElNeT: then artsdsp should suffice |
09:44.05 | ExElNeT | katya: ah k |
09:44.54 | katya | and by 'should' i mean 'might' |
09:45.22 | katya | what game? |
09:45.24 | katya | ET? :> |
09:45.43 | ExElNeT | katya: unable to set channels with artsd -d -D hw:1,0 |
09:46.00 | ExElNeT | katya: teamspeak .... |
09:46.02 | katya | ExElNeT: oss? |
09:46.04 | scrooge | krdc r0x0rz |
09:46.10 | ExElNeT | katya: alsa |
09:46.16 | katya | i know, but usually that works in conjunction with a game of some kind |
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09:46.38 | katya | i don't know about duplex on commandline, i set that in the sound settings in control centre |
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09:47.24 | ExElNeT | katya: hehe yes the goal is to get wow and teamspeak together |
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09:47.50 | katya | !! |
09:47.54 | katya | that runs in linux? |
09:47.57 | katya | under whine? |
09:48.42 | SchopfeR | wine* |
09:48.48 | ExElNeT | yes quite nice |
09:48.52 | katya | whine* |
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09:48.57 | SchopfeR | whine ? |
09:49.03 | katya | affirmative |
09:49.13 | SchopfeR | :/ |
09:49.26 | SchopfeR | what is whine ? |
09:49.59 | katya | WinHandicap Impersonator for Noob Environment |
09:50.21 | katya | or WOW Emulator... :D |
09:50.57 | scrooge | lol |
09:51.10 | katya | i'm not a wine lover :/ |
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09:51.29 | canllaith | As in, you don't like a nice glass of shiraz? |
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09:51.37 | lyte | beat ya Tidus |
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09:51.50 | Tidus | lyte: wasn't racing ya :) |
09:51.58 | slayerbob | mmmm shiraz |
09:52.04 | scrooge | shiraz? :S |
09:52.08 | lyte | Tidus: a likely storey :p |
09:52.09 | katya | really, i don't really like wine... |
09:52.17 | katya | brandy, gin, rum... not wine :\ |
09:52.20 | canllaith | scrooge: red wine. A very nice red wine. |
09:52.23 | scrooge | ahh |
09:52.27 | canllaith | slayerbob: oh GOD you're not drinking the stroh are you??? |
09:52.32 | slayerbob | um no |
09:52.44 | lyte | yer shiraz is good...i don't even like most wine |
09:52.50 | canllaith | I bet it was dave's idea |
09:52.53 | slayerbob | :P |
09:52.54 | Tidus | heh.... |
09:53.04 | slayerbob | it actually goes really well with beer |
09:53.05 | Tidus | slayerbob: we all know you did it / were drinking it / whatever :) |
09:53.20 | slayerbob | quite surprising considering that both beer and stroh are disgusting individually |
09:53.26 | canllaith | Yuck. |
09:53.27 | slayerbob | but they go together kinda well :P |
09:53.44 | slayerbob | LOL |
09:54.47 | canllaith | http://www.ubersoft.net/d/19970809.html |
09:55.06 | canllaith | slayerbob: sound familiar? "We need to grab the ios from your website but we don't have a login and password" |
09:55.10 | canllaith | "Just log in to the website.........." |
09:55.16 | slayerbob | LOL |
09:55.20 | scrooge | haha |
09:55.50 | slayerbob | dammit now i need another drink |
09:55.50 | canllaith | Have you noticed ndiswrapper read me now says 'Please go to the ndiswrapper website' ? |
09:55.54 | canllaith | That's all it says. |
09:55.56 | slayerbob | LOL |
09:55.59 | slayerbob | yeah i noticed that |
09:56.05 | scrooge | eh heh |
09:56.06 | slayerbob | damned lazy of them :P |
09:56.08 | canllaith | I mean, I don't have a working *NETWORK CARD* but I'm going to go to their website. Yay. |
09:56.12 | scrooge | isnt that STUPID! |
09:56.13 | scrooge | yea |
09:56.16 | scrooge | lmfao |
09:56.26 | Tidus | ndiswrapper is an evil, albeit a necessary one for a lot of people. |
09:56.30 | katya | hasn't it been that way for a while? |
09:56.30 | slayerbob | canllaith: well surely there aren't any people who only have one computer now ? |
09:56.38 | katya | Tidus: yeah, me included :< |
09:56.59 | Tidus | snugglemonkey too, but he's not here |
09:57.11 | katya | slayerbob: or vga/ps2/usb ports on their dinky dsl router.. at LEAST... and lynx on it... |
09:57.14 | canllaith | slayerbob: lol well, you remember the saga. 2 pcs with networking & cd drives no floppy, one pc with no networking and only a floppy |
09:57.22 | slayerbob | LOL |
09:57.35 | katya | canllaith: we've all been there :D |
09:57.45 | slayerbob | no i was thinking of having to yell at cisco for something like 20 hours over the course of a couple of weeks |
09:57.48 | canllaith | Until I decided to look up this onboard ethernet chipset I have never used and discover it can netboot. Thank god. |
09:57.52 | canllaith | slayerbob: hahaha um yes |
09:57.56 | slayerbob | just to get an IOS that should have been included with the router in the first place :S |
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09:58.39 | canllaith | katya: the day started like this: http://www.hoult.org/~canllaith/foo/screenshots/amoeba-crushed.png |
09:58.51 | slayerbob | LOL @ "perceived service" |
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09:59.23 | canllaith | For those who aren't terribly observant, look very closely at not just the filesystem type but also the start/end for those parttions |
09:59.26 | canllaith | partitions** |
09:59.39 | slayerbob | ah i remember that one :P |
09:59.52 | slayerbob | gotta love windows fdisk :) |
10:00.15 | Tidus | canllaith: oops :) |
10:00.47 | canllaith | Indeed. Smack the man who made me do it. |
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10:00.59 | canllaith | I could have used any software that would run on linux |
10:01.02 | canllaith | macox or macos9 |
10:01.07 | canllaith | No, he wants windows. |
10:01.14 | canllaith | slayerbob: nooooooo Russell not you |
10:01.19 | slayerbob | oh ok :P |
10:01.33 | slayerbob | it sounded like something i would have told you to do though :P |
10:01.55 | slayerbob | actually i think i told you to check the partition table in linux before formatting the disk after fdisking it :P |
10:02.09 | canllaith | Yes |
10:02.20 | canllaith | The main problem was not having anything to boot from apart from IDE disk. |
10:02.38 | katya | :x |
10:02.42 | katya | hda4... lol |
10:04.11 | Tidus | i've been left with a system that could only boot from the floppy once... |
10:04.23 | canllaith | That doesn't help if you have no floppy |
10:04.45 | Tidus | it had HDs in it and the bios detected them, as well as the cd drive, but for some reason, no matter how i set the boot order, it would only boot from the fsking flopy drive |
10:05.26 | Tidus | out comes the debian install set. |
10:05.33 | Tidus | fixed fdisk pretty quickly |
10:06.20 | Tidus | err... fixed IT |
10:06.26 | Tidus | i can't type. |
10:06.30 | Tidus | i'm tired and hungry :( |
10:06.38 | katya | everytime i run this gambas app... my kicker crashes :x |
10:06.44 | canllaith | oooh lindaur brut |
10:06.59 | Tidus | canllaith: ? |
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10:07.21 | katya | or... it just crashes :x |
10:07.35 | canllaith | http://www.adwnz.com/Pages/wines/our_wines/lindauer_brut.html |
10:08.16 | katya | blech! |
10:08.18 | slayerbob | you have lindauer ? |
10:08.20 | slayerbob | awww :( |
10:08.58 | canllaith | a case of brut |
10:09.01 | canllaith | and a case of sec |
10:09.02 | slayerbob | a case ? |
10:09.05 | slayerbob | :( |
10:09.06 | canllaith | aye |
10:09.14 | slayerbob | man :( |
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10:10.44 | Tidus | canllaith: and as soon as you sent that... my internet died. |
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10:13.47 | SchopfeR | arg :x |
10:13.57 | SchopfeR | I got Windows taskbar working |
10:16.18 | SchopfeR | http://users.swing.be/joey-salberter/cxoffice-explorer.png |
10:17.03 | Sirus | man I can't get nx to work for nothing |
10:17.30 | Tidus | Sirus: join the club. |
10:17.51 | Sirus | :( |
10:17.52 | Tidus | i don't know if we have jackets or not though |
10:18.07 | Sirus | I guess vnc isn't for me ;/ |
10:18.20 | Tidus | Sirus: just ssh into the box and type vncserver |
10:18.32 | Tidus | then connect to the box with display :! |
10:18.36 | Tidus | :1 rather |
10:18.39 | scrooge | BOOOOOO |
10:18.40 | Tidus | ssh tunneling isn't that hard. |
10:18.45 | scrooge | use krfb and krdc |
10:18.55 | Tidus | scrooge: i'm listing the method i use. |
10:19.11 | Tidus | and yes, i do use krdc as my vnc client, thank you |
10:19.13 | scrooge | Tidus, im suggesting kde ways since this is #kde :) |
10:19.14 | Sirus | krfb (it maaaakkkkesss meeee type liiiiikkkkkeee this) ;/ |
10:19.17 | scrooge | haha |
10:19.27 | scrooge | Sirus, same here!! |
10:19.41 | Tidus | krfb is t3h slow? |
10:19.41 | scrooge | pressing g once == ggggggg |
10:19.46 | scrooge | backspace works tho :P |
10:19.58 | Sirus | Tidus: yes |
10:20.07 | Tidus | that's why i use tightvnc :P |
10:20.19 | scrooge | blahh! |
10:20.24 | Sirus | ssh tunneling hrmm |
10:20.27 | Tidus | hardly use it though. it IS my slackware server that this is on. |
10:20.58 | Tidus | Sirus: you'll have to do a 'man ssh' to figure it out though. i use PuTTY to set up the tunnel |
10:21.11 | Tidus | (yes, they made PuTTY for unix too) |
10:21.23 | Sirus | nice... |
10:21.41 | Sirus | Will this allow me to connect to an actuall display? |
10:21.47 | Tidus | yes. |
10:21.51 | Tidus | here's how to do it :P |
10:22.02 | Tidus | http://tidus.alive-awake.com/screenshots/vnchowto.jpg |
10:22.09 | Tidus | it's a jpeg howto :P |
10:22.39 | Tidus | just hope i didn't type an address that leads to a 404 |
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10:23.38 | Sirus | hrmm |
10:23.48 | Sirus | I guess I need to install openssh first |
10:24.02 | Tidus | Sirus: PuTTY handles its own ssh AFAIK |
10:24.26 | Sirus | I have to ssh into the box right? |
10:24.36 | Tidus | PuTTY is an ssh client |
10:24.55 | Tidus | it'll allow you into the box. |
10:25.11 | Sirus | I know.. but I'm not running sshd on this box. don't I need the server too? |
10:25.25 | Tidus | oh, true... |
10:25.28 | Tidus | wait. |
10:25.31 | Tidus | which box are you talking about? |
10:25.38 | Sirus | this box |
10:25.47 | Sirus | the one I'm chatting on |
10:25.49 | Tidus | the vnc server will need the ssh server, yes. the client doesn't need sshd running... maybe not even installed. |
10:26.24 | Sirus | Tidus: shall I install openssh? |
10:26.41 | Tidus | i would, to be on the safe side... should have been installed with the default install options for your distro |
10:26.48 | Tidus | unless you're running bsd or something |
10:26.50 | Tidus | then i have no clue. |
10:27.19 | Tidus | Sirus: part of the base system, i'm afraid |
10:27.21 | Tidus | i use gentoo also |
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10:27.42 | Tidus | emerge system grabbed the ssh server |
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10:28.31 | Sirus | Ok cool so I dont need to install ssh |
10:28.42 | Sirus | do I need to configure the sshd_config for the tunnel? |
10:28.55 | Tidus | well, type ssh <other box's ip address> from the cmdline and see if it works |
10:29.10 | Sirus | it does |
10:29.10 | Tidus | or, just type /etc/init.d/sshd start from the cmdline as root and see if ssh starts |
10:29.20 | Sirus | I connect to my other server all the tome |
10:29.22 | Sirus | time* |
10:29.29 | Tidus | Sirus: now, do an ssh -? |
10:29.50 | Tidus | wait. wrong cmd. |
10:30.01 | Tidus | ssh -v |
10:30.20 | Tidus | you should see the openssh version and the date it was released. |
10:30.42 | Sirus | OpenSSH_3.9p1, OpenSSL 0.9.7e 25 Oct 2004 |
10:30.55 | Tidus | Sirus: and no, you won't need to configure the sshd_config for the tunnel |
10:31.03 | Tidus | PuTTY will handle saving that stuff. just follow my howto |
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10:31.33 | Sirus | the pic is kinda blurry to me can't see it really |
10:31.42 | Tidus | blurry? |
10:32.09 | Tidus | did you stop the picture before it was completely loaded? it IS a progressive jpeg. |
10:32.24 | Tidus | it shows up just fine here |
10:32.42 | Tidus | or if you're using firefox, just click on the picture to bring it to full size. |
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10:33.09 | Sirus | I see it |
10:33.23 | Tidus | just emerge putty :P |
10:33.28 | Sirus | yep |
10:33.40 | Sirus | Is this pretty secure? |
10:33.52 | Tidus | sending all data through an sshv2 tunnel? |
10:33.57 | Sirus | Tidus: even still I need to get nx running |
10:34.03 | Sirus | Tidus: yeah |
10:34.24 | katya | SchopfeR: sicko :/ |
10:34.34 | SchopfeR | what ? |
10:34.48 | katya | windows taskbar... |
10:35.17 | Tidus | Sirus: it uses AES (sshv2 only) then if that's not available, it switches to blowfish and if that's not available, it uses 3DES |
10:35.33 | Sirus | ahh ok.. |
10:35.39 | SchopfeR | I think Windows Taskbar is really better than KDE one |
10:35.44 | Sirus | Tidus: so how do I get the nx portion running? |
10:35.47 | Tidus | all the data sent through this tunnel is encrypted with one of those 3 algorithms |
10:35.50 | SchopfeR | :P |
10:35.57 | Tidus | Sirus: ask snugglemonkey if / when he shows up here |
10:36.02 | Tidus | he finally got it working |
10:36.14 | Sirus | hrmm |
10:36.43 | Sirus | Tidus: do you run that software aswell |
10:36.48 | Tidus | Sirus: ? |
10:36.53 | Tidus | Sirus: which software? |
10:36.59 | Sirus | nx |
10:37.10 | Tidus | i run the NX client to connect to snugglemonkey's machine :P |
10:37.27 | Sirus | lol |
10:37.50 | Tidus | but nah, i'm not gonna waste my time installing NX on an old K6-2 fileserver... |
10:37.56 | Tidus | i'll just use VNC if i need X on it |
10:38.39 | Sirus | hrmm wow the service finally started |
10:38.46 | Sirus | not listing on a port tho |
10:38.58 | Tidus | Sirus: ? |
10:39.08 | Tidus | what service did you start? |
10:39.10 | Sirus | nx again I'm talking about |
10:39.12 | Tidus | o |
10:40.09 | Tidus | Sirus: and in that screenshot, NO i didn't gimp together 2 different screenshots and draw on the result. that's actually a screenshot. i have dual monitors :) |
10:40.58 | Sirus | sweet |
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10:41.43 | Tidus | take the filename off of the address and you can see a folder full of mine. i've set that folder browseable |
10:41.51 | canllaith | erg. |
10:41.59 | willwork4foo | lo canllaith |
10:42.02 | canllaith | kconfig_compiler: ERROR: The name 'SidePaneShowText' is not unique. |
10:42.05 | canllaith | Ullo willwork4foo |
10:42.13 | willwork4foo | sounds like you are having oodles of fun |
10:42.47 | willwork4foo | can I get some help with a simple bash script I'm trying to write? |
10:42.50 | willwork4foo | :) |
10:42.58 | Sirus | hrmm |
10:43.01 | canllaith | Why are you in #kde askin about bash scripts ?:P |
10:43.15 | willwork4foo | good point. |
10:43.19 | willwork4foo | I'll shut up |
10:43.21 | willwork4foo | :) |
10:43.22 | canllaith | :P |
10:47.49 | Sirus | to bad realvnc needs a key |
10:47.51 | Sirus | ;/ |
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10:49.32 | willwork4foo | quick scripting question... I am trying to think of a way to go about this task... I have a big list (2,140) of hostnames on my company network, each of which I need to obtain the IP address for. The list is in a standard text file, with one hostname per line and nothing else in there. Can anyone point me in the right direction? I've been fooling around trying to use nslookup and grepping the outcome, but tna so far |
10:49.37 | willwork4foo | :) |
10:50.04 | Tidus | Sirus: it does? |
10:50.11 | Tidus | Sirus: meh, i use tightvnc anyway |
10:50.23 | willwork4foo | Sirus: tightvnc is better imho |
10:50.25 | willwork4foo | and free |
10:50.53 | Sirus | Tidus: perhaps you can help me with tightvnc then? because when I tried it all I got was a shell prompt |
10:51.04 | Sirus | atleast it worked |
10:51.14 | Tidus | emerge tightvnc-server i believe. |
10:51.17 | Sirus | these others I have a hard time getting it started |
10:51.47 | Tidus | if that package exists, grab it, then that'll let the standard vncserver command work |
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10:52.12 | Sirus | emerge tightvnc |
10:52.13 | Tidus | tightvnc is what my server uses, and well, you see the output of the ssh session in that howto |
10:52.59 | Sirus | hopefully its fast & secure aswell (aannnnnddd wonnnnt maaakeee me typppe like thiiiis) |
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10:53.02 | Sirus | heh |
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10:53.18 | Tidus | vnc by nature isn't secure, so that's why i'm having you tunnel it :P |
10:53.20 | devurandom | Hi! |
10:53.30 | Sirus | Tidus: ahhh |
10:53.30 | katya | perl? |
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10:54.03 | devurandom | How can I edit the protocol settings in konqueror? (Everytime I want to follow an ed2k:// link Konqueror tells me that this is insecure.) |
10:54.18 | katya | it is! :P |
10:54.23 | Sirus | then perhaps I can use the nxclient to connect to the diffrent boxes |
10:54.54 | Tidus | Sirus: you'd have to also have the NX server installed and running if you want to secure it that way |
10:55.22 | Tidus | installed and running on all of those diffrent boxes |
10:55.23 | Sirus | ahh well scrap that cause nxserver isn't working ;/ |
10:55.33 | Tidus | just follow my howto. |
10:55.45 | Tidus | let me figure out which package you need to emerge. |
10:55.50 | devurandom | Or is it possible to change the security settings for such links? |
10:55.59 | Tidus | Sirus: try typing vncserver -help and seeing what that gives |
10:55.59 | Sirus | Tidus: ok tightvnc compiled do I need to start something now? |
10:56.28 | Sirus | Usage: vncserver [<OPTIONS>] [:<DISPLAY#>] |
10:56.29 | Sirus | <PROTECTED> |
10:56.34 | Sirus | I got some other stuff too |
10:56.36 | Tidus | Sirus: you're good to go |
10:57.02 | Sirus | So do I need to run something? or just use putty? |
10:57.13 | Tidus | just use putty and follow what's presented in my jpeg. |
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10:57.17 | Tidus | follow the arrows |
10:57.37 | Sirus | okie doke lets give this a try |
10:57.37 | Tidus | if you see the "tidus@Yuna" prompt in the PuTTY window, type in what's after it |
10:57.46 | Tidus | (in my jpeg, anywho) |
10:58.13 | Tidus | just change the ip address to match |
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11:00.48 | Sirus | /usr/sbin/sshd |
11:00.49 | Sirus | Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key |
11:00.49 | Sirus | Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key |
11:00.51 | Sirus | damn |
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11:03.38 | Sirus | ahh /etc/init.d/sshd start fixed that |
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11:04.04 | devurandom | How can I edit the protocol settings in konqueror? (Everytime I want to follow an ed2k:// link Konqueror tells me that this is insecure.) |
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11:07.43 | Sirus | hrmm it worked |
11:07.47 | Sirus | but I got a shell |
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11:14.37 | Tidus | Sirus: that's where you have to do some magic |
11:14.39 | Tidus | Sirus: /msg me |
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11:15.06 | sirus | damn |
11:15.09 | Tidus | sirus: /msg me |
11:15.13 | sirus | k |
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11:19.43 | xcyborg | after upgrading from kde 3.3 to 3.4 the Alt-Shift-H shortcut no longer works in konsole (running mc) does anyone knows why ? |
11:20.03 | xcyborg | I did not change any other setting |
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11:20.38 | xcyborg | the Keyboard is set as xterm xfree 4.x.x as before |
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11:21.55 | xcyborg | it doesn't work in xterm either |
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11:32.51 | Enforcer_JB | how far away is 3.4.1? any ideas? |
11:33.01 | Enforcer_JB | more like a week, or a month, or two? |
11:33.37 | xdebianuser | Hi to all :) |
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11:34.14 | xdebianuser | Is there a roman numbers calculator in existance for KDE? (was trying to do one) |
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11:40.21 | f2eclmgtfgt | hi, i need help with a KDevelop app |
11:41.19 | f2eclmgtfgt | any? |
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11:41.43 | Enforcer_JB | f2eclmgtfgt, I probably can't help but if you don't describe your actual problem, nobody will :-) |
11:42.42 | f2eclmgtfgt | i need insert a web page like http://localhost in a full screen windows of Kdevelop, is possible? |
11:45.57 | chakie | hm, klipper keeps popping up all the time prompting what to do with an url i selected, oh, 2 hours ago |
11:46.09 | chakie | slightly annoying |
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11:46.54 | Enforcer_JB | chakie, known bug - you're using firefox/mozilla, right? |
11:46.54 | chakie | Enforcer_JB: no, konqueror |
11:46.54 | lippel | f2eclmgtfgt: what exactly do you mean? do you want to view a doc site in kdevelop? |
11:47.15 | Enforcer_JB | chakie, seems to be fixed in cvs, I reported this a while ago |
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11:47.52 | chakie | Enforcer_JB: ok, it annoyed me some months ago too, but then it just stopped... if it's fixed in cvs that's good enough |
11:48.49 | Enforcer_JB | chakie, could you check for me if you can use konq (you have 3.4?) in wikipedia.org to edit articles, and if you select some text within an "textarea" edit field, does konq freeze for a couple seconds? I'm having this problem |
11:48.52 | f2eclmgtfgt | the real problem is that I need to view a web in full screen windows, in html it is not possible to make (disable the title and the scrolls completely is not possible) some suggestion? |
11:49.07 | chakie | Enforcer_JB: lemme see |
11:49.59 | chakie | Enforcer_JB: no, it doesn't freeze here. but i've seen that problem too (also on 3.4) |
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11:52.43 | lippel | f2eclmgtfgt: ctrl+shift+f in konq. not complete fullscreen though |
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11:54.45 | f2eclmgtfgt | i need a completely full screen. its possible? |
11:56.18 | StevenR | f2eclmgtfgt: can you explain more clearly what you want? |
11:56.29 | lippel | f2eclmgtfgt: you could write a simple app embedding a khtmlpart |
11:56.47 | lippel | is it for a presentation? |
11:59.13 | lippel | there is also kwebdesktop, which displays an html page as background. that could do, too. |
11:59.32 | f2eclmgtfgt | yeap, es for a presentation, but i need video, images and database connections, i need a tutorial for write a simple app embedding a khtmlpart you know? |
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12:00.34 | Jefis | How to make konqueror to remember that Menubar is hidden, if i press CTRL+M and close konqueror it doesn't remmeber |
12:02.26 | chakie | Jefis: try Settings->Save view profile "whatever" |
12:02.42 | Jefis | how i press settings, if menubar is hidden?;) |
12:03.04 | chakie | yes, that's an interesting problem :) |
12:03.12 | chakie | assign a shortcut to it? |
12:03.29 | Jefis | shortcut to it?;) |
12:03.37 | chakie | keyboard shortcut |
12:03.41 | Jefis | hmm |
12:04.04 | Jefis | right |
12:04.04 | Jefis | :) |
12:04.16 | chakie | could work |
12:05.30 | Jefis | yeee :) |
12:05.35 | Jefis | works, and look cool :) |
12:05.42 | Jefis | chakie, thanks dude ;) |
12:05.52 | chakie | np |
12:05.56 | Jefis | by the way :) |
12:06.04 | Jefis | is it possible to lock toolbars? |
12:06.15 | chakie | that i can't answer, sorry |
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12:08.26 | f2eclmgtfgt | yes, i need hide anything |
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12:12.47 | lippel | f2eclmgtfgt: check the tutorials, there are also tutorials how to use kparts |
12:14.18 | lippel | f2eclmgtfgt: examples of apps embedding khtmlparts are e.g. kdevelop and akregator |
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12:14.50 | lippel | although the integration is a bit messy at least in akregator |
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12:16.12 | lippel | f2eclmgtfgt: it's probably better to just remove everything from konq, like toolbars |
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12:17.08 | f2eclmgtfgt | and the hthml inside???? |
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12:22.18 | Nixen | People, how do you think, is it very difficult to make a possibility to change KDE menus structure by only mouse without "kde menu editor" help? |
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12:39.59 | KeLebeKcE | alo |
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12:45.54 | StevenR | in kwrite/kate/kile how do I disable the trailing space marker? |
12:46.47 | StevenR | (when i end a sentence, katepart adds a little comma-like thing afterwards to show that there's a trailing space.) |
12:47.47 | StevenR | nevermind..disable tabs. (that's confusing) |
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12:59.00 | neoclust | hi |
12:59.10 | neoclust | i have a question about .moc |
13:00.02 | neoclust | .moc are written by the dev or generated automaticaly ? |
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13:04.26 | Bille_away | neoclust: automatically |
13:04.44 | Bille_away | by moc |
13:05.43 | Bille_away | http://doc.trolltech.com/3.3/moc.html |
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13:07.21 | neoclust | Bille_away: thanks i will have a look a this because i want to package a soft and .moc is include :/ |
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13:22.34 | Berto | hi - my kdeweather applet isn't working well - i put KCMH (columbus) into the code, and when i try to get an update, it says that the station does not exist --- but it does, and if i get a full weather report it works |
13:22.34 | r0ute | I have just installed kde 3.4 but whne i try to use any web app such as konqueror or kmail i get errors saying the protocol (http, file, pop3 etc) is not supported and i also get an error saying no mime types installed, can anyone tell me what is missing here ? |
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13:22.43 | Berto | anyone good with kweather applet? |
13:23.25 | annma | r0ute: install method? |
13:24.10 | r0ute | annma: emerge under gentoo, so guessing i'm missing a package somewhere jsut looking for an idea what it might be bundled with |
13:24.21 | annma | ask in #gentoo then please |
13:24.37 | annma | or way for a gentoo user here to help you |
13:25.01 | r0ute | have asked their but no answer so i'll just wait here as well |
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13:25.58 | annma | I smelled gentoo as soon as I read your problem but next time tell it straight from the beginning |
13:28.10 | r0ute | it was pretty straight if someone had replied saying the "such and such" kde component is missing io could have searched to find what package it could be in then, that was the aim, next time i'll explicitely say i'm using Gentoo tho |
13:28.32 | annma | I have kde from source |
13:28.37 | annma | but NOT gentoo |
13:28.52 | annma | did you emerge arts kdelibs and kdebase? |
13:29.26 | r0ute | no, arts has not been emerged, that might help... |
13:29.50 | annma | no |
13:30.00 | annma | did you emerge kdelibs? |
13:30.12 | annma | did you emerge kdebase as a whole? |
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13:30.48 | r0ute | yes, but i think i may have messed up a dependancy here pissing about with it like a muppet earlier now i think about it |
13:31.06 | annma | so look at your config.log |
13:31.25 | annma | personaly with kde sources from cvs I cannot compile if all dependencies are NOT there |
13:32.17 | r0ute | i think i pissed about with something after i had emerged kdebase, kdelibs and messed about with something else, will go back through the logs now and see what i've messed up, cheers |
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13:41.22 | spiral | hello |
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13:46.19 | DaveQB | anyone know what this error message is ?? "WARNING: Cannot execute call to system.login: empty server URL" Google returns nothing on that exact string search |
13:46.35 | DaveQB | happens openning kontact/knotes |
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13:54.07 | sonoud | hi, i am just wondering which file storing all the settings for kde panel. i mean the layout, icons locations, etc.. |
13:54.29 | _mattr | kickerrc |
13:54.33 | _mattr | IIRC |
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13:55.29 | sonoud | _mattr, are you talking to me? |
13:55.50 | _mattr | sonoud: no, i'm just spouting junk out into the channel. ;) |
13:56.16 | _mattr | sonoud: yes, i'm talking to you. you asked a question, i answered |
13:56.21 | sonoud | _mattr, i found it under .kde. thanks a lot. |
13:56.24 | _mattr | that's generally the way these things work, ya know. :D |
13:56.29 | sonoud | _mattr, yeah. thanks. :) |
13:56.36 | _mattr | np |
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13:57.13 | sonoud | _mattr, thanks a lot. bye. :) |
13:57.25 | _mattr | you're welcome |
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14:15.19 | Jefis | How to lock toolbars? :) |
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14:15.37 | annma | lock? |
14:15.46 | Jefis | yea |
14:15.54 | Jefis | not to able to move somewhere else |
14:16.50 | annma | I don't think you can prevent that |
14:16.59 | annma | if you don't tuch it, it does not move |
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14:17.44 | Jefis | probably if i go away from pc, it won't move too, right?;) |
14:17.59 | frerich | hi ho |
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14:18.28 | annma | Jefis: explain where and why you want to 'lock' it |
14:18.58 | Jefis | in konqueror -> Toolbar, like in explorer |
14:19.48 | annma | what does explorer do? |
14:20.16 | annma | is there a Toolbar menu in konq? |
14:20.47 | Jefis | ye |
14:20.50 | Jefis | ;) |
14:21.34 | annma | I don't see it |
14:21.49 | Jefis | :) |
14:21.57 | Jefis | nevermind |
14:22.20 | annma | look at the bug database |
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14:23.26 | habib | hello |
14:23.42 | habib | how do I disable sistem sound? |
14:23.49 | annma | in kcontrol |
14:24.29 | annma | kcontrol -. sound & multimedia -> sound system |
14:24.37 | annma | uncheck Enable sound system |
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14:27.02 | annma | habib: does that work? |
14:27.29 | DaveQB | anyone know what this error message is ?? "WARNING: Cannot execute call to system.login: empty server URL" Google returns nothing on that exact string search |
14:28.05 | annma | habib: ? |
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14:28.15 | annma | DaveQB: no idea |
14:28.17 | habib | annma: Yes |
14:28.19 | zambaroo | hi all. |
14:28.27 | habib | annma: I wanna run audacity |
14:28.34 | DaveQB | damn |
14:28.35 | annma | habib: run, run |
14:28.53 | DaveQB | damn k3b always making coasters! |
14:28.56 | zambaroo | dumb question, can i adjust the widget size in kde-3.3? |
14:29.02 | DaveQB | NeroLinux is awesome !! |
14:29.08 | zambaroo | k3b > * |
14:29.16 | frerich | zambaroo: Er - as a programmer? Sure. |
14:29.17 | zambaroo | has never failed me |
14:29.24 | zambaroo | frerich, no as a user :) |
14:29.38 | habib | annma. sorry , I don't get wath u say |
14:29.39 | frerich | zambaroo: What "widget" do you mean then? :-) |
14:29.40 | DaveQB | fails me, and no useful error report |
14:30.04 | Kryczek | NeroLinux? hah |
14:30.05 | zambaroo | frerich, them window titles are too wide for my taste.. |
14:30.20 | DaveQB | k3b worked for a little while, but then decided not to play |
14:30.22 | frerich | zambaroo: You mean the font is too wide? |
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14:30.30 | DaveQB | Nero just works, no problems at all. |
14:30.40 | zambaroo | frerich, no, the font is fine, its adjustable. |
14:31.04 | zambaroo | i just want the titles and the buttons to be narrower.. winders has that.. |
14:31.13 | zambaroo | im sure kde does too?:) |
14:31.44 | frerich | zambaroo: I think you have to choose a different window style for that. Whether or not that is configurable depends on the style, I think. |
14:32.31 | zambaroo | thanks. |
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14:32.44 | zambaroo | konversation? |
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14:33.56 | annma | lots |
14:34.07 | annma | Cervisia |
14:34.25 | annma | Quanta |
14:34.26 | annma | Umbrello |
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14:34.39 | zambaroo | whats umbrello? |
14:34.46 | DaveQB | umbrello is awesome |
14:35.11 | annma | gwenview |
14:35.16 | annma | and so oon |
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14:48.58 | Blissex | zambaroo: 'noatun' ! |
14:49.06 | neoclust | bye |
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14:49.14 | chimaera | hi |
14:49.16 | Blissex | zambaroo: even worse, the reverse happens -- Kino is a _GNOME_ application! |
14:49.21 | chimaera | is anoncvs down? |
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14:51.42 | annma | Blissex: lol |
14:51.51 | annma | and Gwenview a KDE one |
14:52.02 | r00tsh3ll | wth is that? http://biglinux.codigolivre.org.br/KDE3D1.jpg |
14:52.03 | Blissex | annma: its terrible isn't it ;-) |
14:52.17 | r00tsh3ll | some kind of metisse effects in kde |
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14:52.44 | SchopfeR | plop |
14:54.33 | r00tsh3ll | does anybody knows how can i do that? |
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15:05.30 | zambaroo | blissex, kino is russian for cinema :) |
15:06.12 | annma | german looks like that as well iirc |
15:06.32 | Blissex | zambaroo: yes, and greek too probably, but using a K-name for a GNOME application is terrible, no matter what the excuse is. |
15:06.50 | Blissex | zambaroo: they could have called it "Gino" instead :-) |
15:06.58 | annma | ;-) |
15:07.07 | annma | like aKregator |
15:08.51 | zambaroo | ahaha or gyno |
15:09.30 | sredna | Hi all :) |
15:09.40 | zambaroo | hi sredna. |
15:09.48 | annma | hi sredna |
15:10.04 | annma | sredna: where do you put your KNewStuff tarballs? |
15:10.09 | annma | for kate? |
15:10.39 | sredna | annma: On which server? They are in kate.kde.org/shared |
15:10.56 | annma | so in www module |
15:11.04 | sredna | annma: Yes |
15:11.19 | annma | I have too much stuff sredna fopr keeping it in www |
15:11.20 | sredna | Www/apps/kate under the old structure |
15:11.26 | annma | yes |
15:11.37 | annma | I also do the same |
15:11.54 | annma | and we have contributed data as well |
15:12.03 | annma | it's getting too big |
15:12.13 | sredna | annma: Well, then you need a server with more space? |
15:12.24 | annma | the problem is not soace itself |
15:12.27 | annma | pace |
15:12.30 | annma | space |
15:12.38 | annma | it's for people who cvs co www |
15:12.45 | sredna | Well, keeping it in cvs is silly, I'd much prefer a ftp account |
15:12.47 | annma | they should get only www stuff |
15:12.53 | annma | ah |
15:12.59 | annma | well me too |
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15:13.18 | annma | except I don't want to ask someone each time I send something on ftp |
15:13.39 | annma | at the moment the process is to upload it and ask someone to put it at the right place |
15:13.39 | sredna | annma: We should ask the admin of ftp.kde.org for an account, and set it up properly |
15:13.50 | annma | ok, so you're ok with that |
15:13.52 | Jy | is there anyway to create a hot key for "show desktop" i don't see any option in the hotkey menu on the control panel in 3.4 |
15:14.14 | annma | sredna: ok, should I ask core-devel prior to it? |
15:14.14 | sredna | annma: Or rather, ssh account I guess, for trusted people, and a ftp blackhole for the wider public |
15:14.24 | annma | yes |
15:14.39 | annma | are there other devels in the same case? |
15:14.50 | sredna | annma: I think a discussion is in place, since if a lot of kde applications starts using khns, space will be needed |
15:15.02 | annma | a discussion is in place? |
15:15.05 | annma | where? |
15:15.06 | sredna | Andras probably |
15:15.31 | sredna | Well, kde-core is fine by me. |
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15:15.54 | annma | ok :) |
15:15.58 | annma | thanks |
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15:17.09 | sredna | :) |
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15:22.23 | r00tsh3ll | how can i do that ? http://download.codigolivre.org.br/biglinux/kde3d.avi |
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15:23.42 | staufk | Which macros can I use in the "work path" field of a file assocation? |
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15:24.43 | sredna | staufk: Try pressing shift + F1 with the field in focus |
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15:26.34 | FLeiXiuS | Is there any way of installing Konqueror without installing KDE 3.4 full |
15:26.53 | sredna | FLeiXiuS: You need kdelibs and kdebase |
15:27.40 | FLeiXiuS | sredna: Whats the konqueror package called? |
15:27.50 | sredna | FLeiXiuS: Kdebase |
15:28.33 | FLeiXiuS | Hmm, I have them installed just not finding konqueror any where. |
15:29.11 | sredna | FLeiXiuS: What system are you running? |
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15:31.00 | staufk | sredna: "enter the working directory here" not too useful. |
15:31.11 | staufk | The problem is then when vim starts, it starts in the wrong directory. |
15:31.20 | sredna | ~ug |
15:31.21 | apt | from memory, ug is http://docs.kde.org/en/HEAD/kdebase/userguide/ |
15:32.22 | staufk | That is, no matter where I am, when I try to edit a .java file, vim starts but the cwd is always ~ |
15:32.22 | sredna | staufk: It's possible that the userguide has a section covering it. |
15:32.22 | staufk | I was checking google to no avail. Thanks. |
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15:33.43 | FLeiXiuS | sredna: I'm runing slackware 10.1 |
15:34.06 | sredna | So, any slackware users knowing where slackware puts kde? |
15:34.11 | sredna | Maybe /opt/kde? |
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15:34.39 | sredna | canllaith: Maybe you can help out here? |
15:34.44 | FLeiXiuS | Oh alright, I didn't understand why it didn't have a link already set |
15:34.46 | FLeiXiuS | Thanks |
15:34.58 | sredna | Oh, so you found it? |
15:35.15 | FLeiXiuS | Yeah, as soon as you asked where to look for, I was like, oh yeah../opt/kde |
15:36.55 | sredna | staufk: Maybe '%d' will expand to the location of the file. Or use the command 'cd %d && <app> %f' or something like that |
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15:37.07 | sredna | FLeiXiuS: Good :) |
15:37.24 | FLeiXiuS | sredna: :-) thankyou |
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15:45.02 | Gumby | hello all. I'm running kde3.4 here and somehow the background to the popups over the taskbar icons/programs have turned to black. Did I mess up and set this somewhere or is it a bug? Any idea how to change it back? |
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15:46.44 | sredna | Gumby: How did you install KDE? |
15:47.29 | Gumby | sredna: I used debian pacakges. |
15:47.42 | Gumby | at first they had a light coloured background. |
15:48.03 | Gumby | now its completely black with black text that is highlighted by white and the icon apears fine |
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15:48.24 | Gumby | its something I can live with. But I'd rather not |
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15:49.07 | cuse | Hi! I'm using 2 displays on my system and I have a little problem with konqueror regarding this; whenever I start konqueror on the 2nd display, all dialog messages (e.g. "accept cookie?", HTTP password dialog) are always shown on the 1st screen. Is this a desired behavior? |
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15:49.55 | cuse | Or can I change that behavior somehow? |
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15:51.19 | sredna | Gumby: It's normally a hardcoded black color in qt, afaik |
15:51.46 | sredna | cuse: That sounds undesirable to me |
15:52.23 | cuse | sredna: exactly :) I just wondered if this is a bug or if theres really something senseful behind that |
15:52.45 | Gumby | sredna: really? |
15:52.57 | Gumby | strange, I've only seen it as a lighter colour |
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15:53.10 | sredna | Gumby: Yes, and it should be the same in all tooltips, a light yellow color and black text |
15:53.34 | apokryphos | sredna: ah, been looking for you past few days :). Uploaded some patches... |
15:53.40 | X-The | can i speak some about kernel here? |
15:53.40 | Gumby | sredna: but my tooltips background is completely black. |
15:53.44 | apokryphos | sredna: www.youmortals.com/stuff/kate |
15:54.01 | sredna | Hi apokryphos :) |
15:54.24 | Gumby | is there somewhere I can change the tooltip background colour? |
15:54.28 | apokryphos | sredna: Hi :). Whoops -- diregard the others; only htmltools altered |
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15:54.32 | X-The | i would like to know to who is using notebooks, whats their normal cpu temperature |
15:54.41 | apokryphos | Hmm, and index.docbook; one sec, I'll upload it |
15:54.56 | sredna | Yea, that's the one I picked :) |
15:55.52 | sredna | apokryphos: It's not changed |
15:56.22 | apokryphos | sredna: ergh, forgot to upload completely (really thought I had :P). They're there n ow |
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15:57.32 | apokryphos | sredna: I was misguided into evil things, i.e. using <acronym>HTML</acronym> when there's actually an entity ;-). Fixed that now |
15:57.44 | sredna | apokryphos: That looks fine imo |
15:57.50 | apokryphos | cool :) |
15:58.29 | sredna | apokryphos: You should really put yourself as copyright holder |
15:59.14 | apokryphos | sredna: for the htmltools part? Wasn't really sure; though I haven't got an entity (not heavily into documentation, but I plan to eventually). |
15:59.53 | sredna | apokryphos: Ask lauri to add you, or for OK to adding yourself :) |
16:00.23 | apokryphos | I could probably put my details down there anyhow, couldn't I? Would have to check into that... |
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16:01.30 | apokryphos | sredna: though, all the stuff really came from you and the author of the plugin |
16:03.25 | sredna | apokryphos: You ddi the work ;) |
16:03.27 | sredna | Did |
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16:05.33 | alzen | ok, a question; if anyone is using arch linux here; please tell me in which package kpaint lies? i tried kdegraphics but it is nowhere there |
16:05.36 | apokryphos | sredna: ok, I'll try ask lauri what to do when she's free |
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16:05.50 | sredna | apokryphos: Ok :) |
16:09.27 | lauri | dude, nobody needs to ask me to add yourself as a copyright holder |
16:09.47 | lauri | i spend half my time nagging people who don't want to, that they *have* to add themselves, or I will anyway |
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16:10.18 | apokryphos | lauri: hehe. So what shall I do? Patch the contributor.entities? |
16:10.25 | lauri | if you changed anything bigger than a typo fix, you better damn well put your name in there |
16:10.51 | _mattr | lauri: get out the whip! ;) |
16:10.57 | apokryphos | hehe :) |
16:11.07 | demente | hey |
16:11.09 | lauri | yup, but then wait a week before using the entity (at which point everyone will stil whine at you that you made them recompile kdelibs, but at least a few people will have already done so by then) |
16:11.12 | apokryphos | lauri: suffice it to say, I've done more than typo fixes with konq handbook :P |
16:11.18 | lauri | expand it in place first |
16:11.25 | apokryphos | heh |
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16:11.32 | lauri | apokryphos: indeed you have |
16:12.11 | apokryphos | Ok, I'll patch up now |
16:13.21 | apokryphos | =) |
16:13.24 | lauri | ehm, not that I think you have a particularly thick skull, but this comes up *so* often |
16:13.32 | lauri | and it's so simple |
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16:13.51 | apokryphos | webcvs.kde.org down stillll? |
16:14.05 | annma | yes |
16:14.16 | apokryphos | :(. I'll use that mirror |
16:14.30 | annma | hmm I sent a patch for kmail doc and it did not get committed |
16:14.37 | annma | now that we speak about doc |
16:15.04 | lauri | who did you send it to? |
16:15.48 | lauri | I don't see it on kde-doc-english, when did you send it= |
16:16.13 | annma | let me look |
16:17.26 | annma | <PROTECTED> |
16:17.26 | annma | kde-doc-english@kde.org |
16:17.31 | annma | 18 march |
16:17.38 | eeanm | when are we switching to SVN? |
16:17.49 | annma | eeanm: we don't know |
16:17.55 | annma | when we're ready to |
16:18.05 | eeanm | we're held in suspense |
16:18.16 | annma | you are? |
16:18.18 | annma | why? |
16:18.25 | lauri | well, that's handy, my mail server RAID drive crashed on the 20th, and took out most of the mail store with it (and I had backups, but a few days old) |
16:18.33 | eeanm | no, not really |
16:18.57 | annma | lauri: so I shall resend it |
16:19.46 | lauri | no, it's on lists.k.o |
16:19.56 | annma | too late! |
16:19.59 | annma | eeerk |
16:20.00 | lauri | ok, I can't apply that patch as it is, but I can fix the problem at least |
16:20.07 | annma | why not? |
16:20.16 | annma | can I do it better? |
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16:20.32 | lauri | because you changed the text but didn't move it to the right menu (so now it's in the wrong menu section) |
16:20.41 | annma | you sure? |
16:20.43 | ExElNeT | i am trying to run artsd with my usbheadset but i cant get it working the error is artsd -d -D hw:1,0 Error while initializing the sound driver: Unable to set channels! |
16:20.44 | apokryphos | lauri: whereabouts is the contributor.entities on cvs? Looking in kdelibs but don't see it just yet... |
16:20.52 | lauri | the second chunk is ok |
16:21.00 | lauri | apokryphos: kdelibs/kdoctools/customization/entities/ |
16:21.06 | apokryphos | ah |
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16:22.38 | lauri | why is it too late? |
16:22.59 | annma | I resent it |
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16:45.54 | spiral | hi |
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17:01.08 | Zxcvb_ | is there anything like kweather that gets the weather data from the weather channel or similar site? |
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17:04.24 | alaxa | hello |
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17:08.31 | alaxa | has the CVS site any problem? |
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17:10.30 | vi4m | hello |
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17:10.57 | vi4m | my question is: how to make backup of running linux system without going into the single user mode? |
17:11.34 | apokryphos | alaxa: yes; not working for me and webcvs.kde.org is down |
17:11.35 | Tronic | vi4m: cp -avux . <where-ever> |
17:11.36 | vi4m | would it be safe, if i simply exclude directories: /proc /sys and /dev ? |
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17:11.47 | Tronic | vi4m: It's not very good, though, but usually works quite fine. |
17:12.11 | Tronic | cp -avux / /mnt/backup |
17:12.42 | Tronic | vi4m: -x mostly takes care of that. |
17:13.08 | Tronic | IIRC, tar cannot do the job properly. |
17:13.08 | vi4m | i'll try,thanks |
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17:13.56 | alaxa | ok, next question, anyone with an Apple that tried to compile with QT/Mac ? |
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17:15.23 | Sho__ | I will never understand how kdesktop calculates the icon grid |
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17:16.11 | askie | lauri: I like those quick bugfixes! :) |
17:16.13 | Flendor | Hello. |
17:17.22 | lauri | heh, I'm on a roll today |
17:18.06 | lauri | and I started at the new end, then thought that probably wasn't smart, so now I'm working through the old ones |
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17:19.14 | askie | Well, you definitely made me happy by doing so ;) |
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17:21.12 | lauri | first time in a long while I've had both motivation and some spare time at the same time |
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17:22.40 | lauri | askie: keep filing the bug reports though, i18n is our best source for the fact corrections, for sure, and i promise (gah, in public, where everyone can see and hold me to it) to try and keep on top of them better than we have been |
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17:23.04 | askie | lauri: I will, that's for sure :) |
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17:23.47 | pchan | Is it possible to "tab" windows like in fluxbox? |
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17:24.37 | lauri | pchan: no, but you can use fluxbox as your window manager, if that feature is more important to you then what kwin has to offer |
17:24.46 | lauri | (that is, as your wm inside KDE) |
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17:25.00 | lauri | quite simply too, just set an envar: setenv KDE_WM fluxbox; startx |
17:25.32 | lauri | (or however you set envars in your shell) |
17:25.32 | vi4m | offtopic: i don't know who invented to make konqi network shortcuts, but - that's _great_ idea! //i don't know whom send a beer ;-) |
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17:26.55 | pchan | lauri, Well, the windows wont be all themed/kde:ish then will they? |
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17:27.25 | lauri | pchan: no, since that's what window managers do :) |
17:27.27 | alaxa | no apple users here? |
17:27.39 | pchan | hehe :D Well well, any idea on how to hack in tabbed windows? |
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17:27.45 | lauri | alaxa: not too many, in a KDE channel |
17:27.49 | pchan | (i love that feature) |
17:28.05 | lauri | pchan: no, you could go comment on one of the several wishlist items about it |
17:28.13 | alaxa | lauri i'm looking for someone that tried to compile kde with Qt/mac |
17:28.47 | pchan | Wishlist you say. Where can i find it? |
17:28.52 | alaxa | at least i'd like to know any way to handle the shortcuts inside each application that are set to run fine with X |
17:28.55 | lauri | (bII window decoration used to do a neat trick, where the tab with the window title moved around so it was always visible: if you put windows over each other, and made the titlebars line up, it's nearly like tabs) |
17:28.58 | lauri | pchan: bugs.kde.org |
17:29.18 | lauri | I don't know if bII still does that |
17:29.38 | lauri | or just maximize all your windows, have an external always visible taskbar at the top, and disable task grouping on it - voila, instant tabs |
17:30.41 | lauri | real, non-maximized, ad hoc attaching windows to each other, can't be done right now |
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17:31.42 | PEACEYALL | when i press file - print , i get: "There was an error loading kdeprint_cups. The diagnostics is: Library files for "kdeprint_cups.la" not found in paths." , wats the problem?? |
17:31.48 | PEACEYALL | oh ya and i am using kde 3.4 |
17:32.05 | alaxa | ok thank you, i will come later for a mac user :) |
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17:32.23 | triNode | are there any problems with the kde bugs database sending passwords? |
17:32.53 | aseigo_h | triNode: what do you mean? |
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17:33.33 | triNode | aseigo_h: I'm trying to report a bug, and had no account, so i entered my mail address, and it said my password would be mailed to me |
17:33.45 | triNode | aseigo_h: and i never recieved it.... no spam filter |
17:33.48 | aseigo_h | triNode: how long ago? |
17:34.14 | triNode | not long, but these things are normally instant :) |
17:34.40 | aseigo_h | triNode: heh... well give it a few minutes. that machine can sometimes be a bit busy. |
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17:34.55 | aseigo_h | triNode: AFAIK it's up and running fine though |
17:35.20 | triNode | will do, they never make helping easy do they? ;) |
17:35.43 | aseigo_h | triNode: view it as a test. =) |
17:36.00 | aseigo_h | "When you can snatch the pebble from my hand, you will be ready to leave, Grasshopper." |
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17:36.20 | triNode | 2 bugs under my belt now :D only been trying for a week |
17:37.54 | PEACEYALL | when i press file - print , i get: "There was an error loading kdeprint_cups. The diagnostics is: Library files for "kdeprint_cups.la" not found in paths." , wats the problem?? , im using kde 3.4 |
17:37.59 | aseigo_h | triNode: ah, a new kde user then? |
17:38.20 | aseigo_h | PEACEYALL: a bad installation... how did you install 3.4? |
17:38.42 | PEACEYALL | with Konstruct |
17:38.49 | triNode | aseigo_h: been using since 3.1, new to kdevelop though (apparently it's the same bug database) |
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17:39.23 | lostmonk | is there a write up anywhere on setting user groups in 3.4? |
17:39.28 | aseigo_h | triNode: yes... we all use bugs.kde.org... helps to keep things close as many times a bug filed against Application X really needs to be addressed in library Y |
17:39.41 | aseigo_h | triNode: and a lot of people work on more than one area in kde =) |
17:39.56 | triNode | Found bugs in the subversion plugin, and now the code completion database creator can crash a whole pc |
17:40.00 | aseigo_h | lostmonk: user groups? you mean UNIX groups, or? |
17:40.10 | lostmonk | i dunno the proper name |
17:40.16 | lostmonk | what u used to do with kuser |
17:40.22 | aseigo_h | triNode: well, report with prejudice and detail =) look for duplicates... |
17:40.23 | lostmonk | audio, video, etc |
17:40.34 | PEACEYALL | aseigo_h if i installed it with Konstruct then how is that a bad instalation? |
17:40.38 | aseigo_h | lostmonk: ah. yes... ok.. you can still do that with kuser |
17:40.53 | lostmonk | i thought kuser was broken on 3.4? |
17:41.03 | aseigo_h | i hope ont |
17:41.04 | aseigo_h | er, not |
17:41.11 | triNode | aseigo_h: I can't get much detail, I have about 3 seconds to killall kdevelop or the system swapping is so heavy I can't do anything |
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17:42.25 | Guard][an | hi ppl i just emerged kde 3.4 on a gentoo box, click "use translucency/shadows" in the kde control center produces no result |
17:42.46 | Guard][an | anymay starting xcompmgr by hand works |
17:42.48 | Guard][an | any idea ? |
17:42.49 | aseigo_h | Guard][an: are you running the compmgr? |
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17:42.54 | lostmonk | aseigo_h, what package should kuser be in?> |
17:42.55 | aseigo_h | ah.. there you go =) |
17:42.58 | Guard][an | do i first have to launch it ? |
17:42.59 | aseigo_h | lostmonk: kdeadmin |
17:43.04 | aseigo_h | Guard][an: yes. |
17:43.09 | Guard][an | oh explains lot :D |
17:43.13 | PEACEYALL | lol |
17:43.26 | aseigo_h | Guard][an: that stuff isn't very well integrated yet... it's just too new and too beta |
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17:43.46 | Guard][an | well it does not work at all |
17:43.51 | Guard][an | xcompmgr is started |
17:43.51 | physos | aseigo_h: thanks for the write up. |
17:43.58 | Guard][an | if i use transset it works |
17:44.04 | Guard][an | but none of the kde control center settings work |
17:44.20 | frerich | Guard][an: You need to restart KDE |
17:44.21 | PEACEYALL | how do i start compmgr |
17:44.25 | aseigo_h | like an XRender by a couple of Qt developers that's already 9x faster at many common ops than the one that comes with X.org right now |
17:44.25 | lostmonk | thanks |
17:44.29 | Guard][an | ok |
17:44.36 | triNode | aseigo_h: where's that e-mail you promised me? |
17:44.38 | triNode | :) |
17:44.42 | frerich | Guard][an: IIRC that feature only writes into some configuration file, but doesn't show any effect immediately |
17:44.45 | aseigo_h | physos: the transcript? |
17:44.53 | aseigo_h | physos: btw, that worldwide map is looking kick ass... |
17:44.54 | Guard][an | let's restarting kde |
17:45.02 | Guard][an | hmm works :) |
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17:45.17 | physos | aseigo_h: yeah, the transscript. |
17:45.17 | m0ns00n | Hello |
17:45.22 | Guard][an | works well ! |
17:45.22 | m0ns00n | I'm wondering about something |
17:45.23 | aseigo_h | physos: oh... how's the feature guide going? what needs to get done on that so we can ship it? |
17:45.26 | Guard][an | it's not slow |
17:45.29 | PEACEYALL | Guard] [an , how do u start compmgr?? |
17:45.35 | m0ns00n | Is there a tutorial on how to create a kde theme? |
17:45.40 | m0ns00n | I have no idea where to start |
17:45.40 | m0ns00n | :-) |
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17:46.01 | Guard][an | PEACEYALL: previously i just did "xcompmgr&" in a console, but i restarted kde and now it simply works |
17:46.08 | PEACEYALL | ok |
17:46.14 | physos | aseigo_h: you have not seen anything coming up for worldwide ;) http://www.brainoff.com/worldkit/index.php have to watch for licence issues though :) |
17:46.20 | triNode | m0ns00n: set up your desktop all pretty, then save it with the theme manager ? |
17:46.33 | m0ns00n | triNode: I ment a style/wm |
17:46.46 | Guard][an | i'm discovering kde |
17:46.47 | Guard][an | it's cool |
17:46.51 | m0ns00n | triNode: Found a tutorial for 2.x hehe |
17:47.03 | triNode | m0ns00n: like the title bar and stuff? |
17:47.04 | m0ns00n | triNode: Which only covered "Code styles", not "pixmap styles" |
17:47.07 | m0ns00n | Yeah |
17:47.09 | m0ns00n | And buttons |
17:47.10 | PEACEYALL | i get bash: xcompmgr: command not found |
17:47.11 | PEACEYALL | :/ |
17:47.12 | m0ns00n | Scrollbars |
17:47.29 | Guard][an | what kind of programs can draw the background ? |
17:47.52 | Guard][an | PEACEYALL: surely you don't have the good xorg version |
17:48.05 | m0ns00n | triNode: And as well, I'm wondering if KDE's IceWM engine is up to date enough to let me make IceWM themes as well |
17:48.06 | PEACEYALL | oh i need xorg , damn i have xfree86 |
17:48.07 | PEACEYALL | :/ |
17:48.29 | m0ns00n | triNode: Displaying them properly ( in the past all the IceWM themes I've tried for KDE have been screwed up ) |
17:49.46 | PEACEYALL | gah this sux, now whenever i need to print , i need to open gnome :/ |
17:50.36 | triNode | m0ns00n: sorry, i've no idea, always been pretty happy with the ones that come with kde |
17:51.04 | aseigo_h | PEACEYALL: konstruct.. i see.. you have the cups-devel and all the other printing packages required? |
17:51.18 | lostmonk | aha |
17:51.22 | lostmonk | still cant get it |
17:51.26 | PEACEYALL | ill check |
17:51.38 | lostmonk | aseigo_h, is therea write up anywhere on how to do it via termianl? |
17:51.52 | aseigo_h | physos: that worldkit stuff looks cool =) |
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17:52.10 | aseigo_h | lostmonk: groups? sure.. as root, open /etc/groups and add users to the groups you want. |
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17:52.20 | aseigo_h | er.. /etc/group |
17:52.27 | lostmonk | well, i did that, and i still have no sound |
17:52.36 | PEACEYALL | aseigo_h , what is the cups-devel package called? |
17:52.43 | lostmonk | as soon as i login, it says i dont have permissions |
17:52.52 | aseigo_h | lostmonk: you need to log out and back in for the OS to pick up those changes for your user.. |
17:53.02 | lostmonk | already did |
17:53.15 | aseigo_h | ah.. you have logged in.. ok.. and the sound devices are all owned by the right group and have the proper group permissions? |
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17:53.42 | eckhart | hi |
17:53.55 | lostmonk | owned by the right group |
17:53.57 | lostmonk | hm |
17:54.02 | eckhart | what happened to kde cvs? |
17:54.03 | lostmonk | not wuite sure what u mean there |
17:54.37 | aseigo_h | lostmonk: ls -l /dev/<whateveryoursounddeviceis> |
17:54.52 | lostmonk | uh |
17:54.54 | lostmonk | ok |
17:55.00 | aseigo_h | eckhart: nothing. why? |
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17:55.20 | eckhart | i always get a timeout on webcvs.kde.org |
17:55.32 | eckhart | and cervisia does not work either |
17:56.13 | aseigo_h | eckhart: i just did a cvs up |
17:56.13 | lostmonk | i have no idea |
17:56.32 | aseigo_h | eckhart: are you using anoncvs or cvs.kde.org? |
17:57.07 | eckhart | aseigo_h: anoncvs |
17:57.24 | aseigo_h | eckhart: ah.. i see. perhaps the mirror is down |
17:57.53 | eckhart | is webcvs.kde.org the same mirror? |
17:58.02 | _mattr | probably |
17:58.05 | aseigo_h | i think it draws off of anoncvs yes |
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17:58.48 | dolphin | why does kbear fsck up whole panel? |
18:00.02 | aseigo_h | the system tray? yeah, that's because kbear has a bug in its systray label |
18:00.26 | aseigo_h | it says it's really, really wide (bad width() calculation) when it's not |
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18:07.25 | eckhart | hm |
18:07.42 | eckhart | if i have a directory with cervisia view mode |
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18:08.06 | eckhart | then i click on a directory icon |
18:08.23 | eckhart | this directory gets opened in a new tab |
18:08.34 | eckhart | but also with the cervisia view mode |
18:09.01 | eckhart | (which of course leads to an error as the directory is almost certainly not a cvs directory) |
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18:10.31 | chris | hi |
18:10.33 | chris | question : |
18:10.49 | chris | i once got these nice copy-dialogs with kde 3.1 or something |
18:10.52 | chris | where are they |
18:10.54 | chris | ? |
18:10.57 | triNode | jesus christ, kde bugs display's my e-mail address?!?!?? |
18:11.02 | ExElNeT | is there an arts channel or forum? |
18:11.04 | chris | where you can schdule the copy |
18:11.07 | chris | oder pause |
18:11.10 | chris | or pause |
18:11.17 | chris | and do much more |
18:11.54 | triNode | right, changing my e-mail address to my hotmail one.... |
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18:16.03 | triNode | does noone think it's daft to have a big database of e-mail addresses for spam bots to harvest on bugs.kde.org? |
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18:18.36 | Lraptor | Does somebody know how to autoload the gnome theme & font settings from kde ? |
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18:18.56 | aseigo_h | Lraptor: you mean like running the gconf daemon? |
18:19.19 | Lraptor | maybe ... |
18:19.51 | Lraptor | which binary is that ? |
18:21.05 | aseigo_h | gconfd-2? |
18:23.41 | Lraptor | "/usr/libexec/gconfd-2" ? |
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18:29.19 | Lraptor | that binary doesn't do anything ... but the settings are loaded when I start gnome-theme-manager |
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18:30.02 | chealer | hi, what happens with bash when you close a konsole session (and there are programs started by bash)? |
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18:30.31 | frerich | They become ex-programs. |
18:31.01 | chealer | ex-programs...hum, never heard of that |
18:31.14 | frerich | ex-programs as in 'ex-parrot'. |
18:31.18 | chealer | I'm not very aware of how processes work though |
18:31.47 | chealer | ex-parrot...what does that mean? I'm not natively English-speaking |
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18:32.41 | frerich | chealer: It's just a tribute to a nice Monty Python scene about a customer (Mr. Praline) bringing a dead parrot back to the shop, and complaining that it's dead (andin fact, wasn't alive when he bought it). |
18:33.41 | chealer | so, bash has never been alive? :-P |
18:34.04 | frerich | "He's not pinning! He's passed on! This parrot is no more! He has ceased to be! He's expired and gone to meet his maker! He's astiff! Bereft of life, he rests in peace! If you hadn't nailed him to the perch he'd be pushing up the daisies! His metabolic processes are now history! He's off the twig! He's kicked the bucket, he's shuffled off his mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleeding choir invisible! THIS IS AN EX-PARROT!" |
18:35.15 | chealer | impressive memory |
18:35.57 | chealer | let's say I have bash running in konsole and I su in it, then close konsole, both bashes terminate |
18:36.28 | frerich | chealer: I looked the actual text up with Google. |
18:36.47 | chealer | ok that's more sane |
18:37.14 | chealer | ...but if after su I start some programe, like dpkg-reconfigure, then when closing konsole root's bash is reattributed to init. I'd like to understand this behavior |
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18:41.17 | osoh | hi ll |
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18:42.09 | coachz | Is there any way to have KDE launch a hyperlink when i right click over text in an app? |
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18:45.50 | PhilRod | coachz: I'm not quite sure what you mean - you can use klipper to open text from the clipboard (ie, select some text, klipper pops up an option to "open in konqueror") |
18:45.57 | PhilRod | hi osoh |
18:46.07 | coachz | i have an app "treepad" that doesn't support hyperlinks |
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18:46.29 | coachz | so i'm trying to find a way to be able to launch the hyperlink by highlighting it and right clicking |
18:46.38 | coachz | and launching the browser with that link |
18:46.57 | frerich | You'd have to edit the program's source code. |
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18:47.22 | coachz | cuz it the string can be copied to the clipboard |
18:47.34 | coachz | it should be available to go to a browser by some helper app |
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18:51.18 | coachz | Isn't there a cheeky app that can do that ? |
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18:53.30 | PhilRod | that sounds like a job for klipper |
18:53.51 | PhilRod | copy the string to the clipboard, and klipper will pop up a little menu |
18:53.57 | PhilRod | read the klipper handbook for more info |
18:54.04 | PhilRod | (help:/klipper in konq) |
18:54.20 | coachz | hmm |
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18:56.15 | coachz | i don't see how klipper can help |
18:56.24 | coachz | how would it be faster than a copy/paste |
18:56.38 | chealer | I found the answer to my own question. konsole sends bash SIGHUP |
18:57.38 | coachz | klipper don't have a launch link/browser |
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19:01.15 | PhilRod | coachz: well, if you set the clipboard/selection behaviour correctly, you should get the "open link in konq" option just by selecting the link |
19:02.07 | coachz | in klipper? hmm |
19:02.41 | coachz | i don't see any konquerer reference in the options |
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19:04.47 | sudan1 | how can i stop firefox using ugly anti-aliased(bitty) fonts in kde, i have anti-alias turned off in kde, its horrible... |
19:06.43 | illogic-al | well sudan1 firefox isn't a KDE app which is why it's not respecting the choice you made. |
19:07.18 | illogic-al | to turn off antialiasing in firefox i _think_ you have to run it with the --noxft or --no-xft options |
19:07.50 | illogic-al | but i'm not sure. i think aliased fonts are teh suxorz and hate them :-) |
19:07.57 | sudan1 | yes, illogic-al , i have gnome also and i have manipulated the fonts in that also and still firefox persists in using the same fonts |
19:09.11 | PhilRod | coachz: did you read the section called "Actions"? |
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19:11.01 | PhilRod | I think we should adopt the method of today's www.dilbert.com in providing support here :-} |
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19:12.11 | frerich | PhilRod: Hah! I like that :-) |
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19:15.25 | en453 | I have trouble recording sounds on my linux box: The input is Ok, since I hear from the boxes what I say in the microphone, but programs like audacity or krecord aren't able to record :p any ideas? |
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19:20.33 | PhilRod | en453: try yourdistro |
19:20.36 | PhilRod | en453: try #yourdistro |
19:24.16 | gek | hello. can someone point me to docs regarding multiple monitors (laptop and external monitor at the same time) on kde? |
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19:25.26 | PhilRod | gek: there's probably some stuff in the kcontrol docs (go into kcontrol, look around, and hit 'help' when something relevant turns up). Although AIUI, it's mainly an X issue though |
19:25.39 | PhilRod | oh wait, do you just want the same thing to appear on both displays? |
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19:28.47 | xpato | how can i see all the kios? |
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19:41.58 | Frost^ | does anyone know how can I make the icons in my kmenu larger? (kde 3.4) |
19:42.06 | Frost^ | can't find it in the faq |
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19:44.33 | aseigo_h | Frost^: i do |
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19:45.46 | Frost^ | care to give me a hand then? |
19:46.12 | aseigo_h | in your kickerrc, in the [menus] section set MenuEntryHeight=48 for 48px icons |
19:46.16 | aseigo_h | 0 == no icons |
19:46.33 | Frost^ | oh |
19:46.43 | Frost^ | so there's no gui way for doing it? |
19:46.44 | aseigo_h | er, no.. -1 == no icons |
19:46.50 | aseigo_h | 0 == defaults.. |
19:47.04 | aseigo_h | no. well. sort of. if you have kconfigeditor you can do it there =) |
19:47.28 | Frost^ | hehe |
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19:47.33 | Frost^ | well ok then :) thanks a lot |
19:48.16 | aseigo_h | np |
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19:49.25 | Frost^ | wow that's huge |
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19:51.45 | Frost^ | ah, 22 is nice |
19:51.47 | Frost^ | thanks again |
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20:03.47 | cruz | how come i have the desktop sharing enabled to accept uninvited connections (still need the pw) but i cant connect w/ my vnc viewer |
20:03.48 | cruz | :o |
20:05.46 | cruz | nvm |
20:05.48 | cruz | iiiiiii got it |
20:05.59 | cruz | some of the keys stick aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa little though |
20:06.01 | cruz | why is that |
20:06.03 | cruz | eekkkkkkkkk |
20:06.06 | cruz | wtf |
20:06.54 | uniq | is there a way (without hacking the sourcecode) to disable archives from the directory-tree-view in konqsidebar? |
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20:08.28 | PhilRod | uniq: right-click on the icon->remove ? |
20:08.47 | r00tsh3ll | how the hell i do that http://biglinux.codigolivre.org.br/KDE3D1.jpg ? |
20:09.53 | r00tsh3ll | metisse effects over kde |
20:10.54 | uniq | philrod: hum.. I want to display directories only, in the treeview. Currently archives are listed like directories in the treeview. I want archives to be threated as files.. not directories. |
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20:11.32 | PhilRod | oh, I see |
20:11.34 | PhilRod | no idea, sorry |
20:11.41 | uniq | thanks anyways :) |
20:11.47 | Ilici | hi, is there a developer channel for kde or do programming questions go in here too ? |
20:11.56 | r00tsh3ll | kde-devl |
20:12.02 | r00tsh3ll | kde-devel* |
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20:12.18 | PhilRod | r00tsh3ll: you need whatever 3d wm is being used in that screenshot |
20:12.19 | Ilici | ok thanks |
20:13.19 | r00tsh3ll | PhilRod: kde but i dunno how can i get those 3d effects |
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20:13.46 | PhilRod | r00tsh3ll: that screenshot is using a window manager which is != kwin |
20:13.58 | PhilRod | (which is possible with the KDEWM environment variable) |
20:14.24 | r00tsh3ll | its seems to be a hack of metisse to work over kde |
20:15.01 | r00tsh3ll | something like that dunno.. im trying to contact the developer of that distribution to get more info about that.. |
20:15.10 | PhilRod | well, to use a different window manager, you just set KDEWM=/path/to/window-manager and then run KDE |
20:15.19 | PhilRod | (I think - never felt the need to try it) |
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20:16.40 | r00tsh3ll | ehe :-p lemme check if it really works |
20:18.14 | PhilRod | there's some information about it around the place - I think the wiki has something that may be more authoritative than me |
20:19.00 | r00tsh3ll | i'm searching for |
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20:20.29 | r00tsh3ll | PhilRod: take a look.. http://download.codigolivre.org.br/biglinux/kde3d.avi |
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20:22.56 | chimaera | hi. |
20:27.20 | r00tsh3ll | http://download.codigolivre.org.br/biglinux/biginstallfest2005.avi |
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20:31.31 | elcuco | r00tsh3ll, wtf??? cool! |
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20:35.40 | r00tsh3ll | metisse inside of kde :) thats r0x :-p http://r00tsh3ll.homelinux.org:8081/shotz/r0x.jpg now i'll try to do that |
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20:41.56 | theobroma | I used to be able to preview my xcf files in konqi...now I can't remeber how I did it (I am using KDE 3.3.x) |
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20:52.27 | PhilRod | ryanoe: try #mplayer or somewhere |
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20:53.00 | paras | with kde3.4, ZIP archives show up left in the konqueror navigation window, can this be switched off somehow ? |
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20:58.25 | sudan1 | is this an official or unofficial kde channel? or do kde developers often frequent here, erm im new to this network... |
20:58.54 | _mattr | this the kde help channel |
20:59.03 | _mattr | developers who need help should go to #kde-devel |
20:59.13 | chimaera | is there a way to remove attachments from mails in kmail? |
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21:01.03 | PhilRod | and on the question of whether it's official or not, I guess it depends on how you define 'official' - it's the biggest KDE help channel, and it's linked to on www.kde.org |
21:01.20 | slayerbob | heh |
21:01.21 | PhilRod | but I suppose there's no guarantee that anything said here is the view of "KDE as a whole" |
21:01.25 | slayerbob | sounds pretty official to me :P |
21:01.46 | paras | with kde3.4, ZIP archives show up left in the konqueror navigation window, can this be switched off somehow ? |
21:01.47 | slayerbob | LOL in fact given the nature of kde it is almost certain that anything said here is not the view of kde as a whole :P |
21:02.16 | PhilRod | hehe, yeah :-) |
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21:08.19 | paras | is there a possibility to let hidden directories be shown in the navigation tab in konqueror ? |
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21:09.46 | phed | hey. I have this gam_server / gamin using all my cpu. anyone have any idea on how I can disable it? |
21:10.03 | PhilRod | paras: probably - try right-clicking in there, or setting view->show hidden files |
21:10.07 | phed | its seriously making stuff hard. eg. it makes it impossible for me to eject cdroms :( |
21:10.39 | PhilRod | phed: I don't think that's anything to do with KDE, but will 'kill' kill it? |
21:11.18 | phed | philrod: no, something wakes it up. however, I suspect kde being the program which is using it, and making it go haywire |
21:11.50 | phed | since kde seems to pop up in userstories about this bug, plus it seems a lot is depending on it |
21:11.57 | paras | PhilRod, view->show hidden files is only for the right part... not for the navigation tab. |
21:12.52 | phed | and I'm wondering where that sequiaview-like diskspaceusage went. It was selectable in konqueror before |
21:13.06 | PhilRod | phed: oh, it's part of fam, so it is probably being used by kde |
21:13.13 | PhilRod | paras: then I don't know, sorry |
21:13.15 | phed | ok. what is fam? |
21:13.21 | phed | file monitor of some kind I assume |
21:13.32 | PhilRod | file alteration monitor |
21:13.43 | phed | mm, ok. |
21:13.51 | anixter | my open application are not in the controlpanel, why...i upgraded today from 3.3 >3.4 |
21:13.59 | paras | np, thanks anyway |
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21:28.39 | Oleg_ | 3.9 GB are left on my hd |
21:29.07 | Oleg_ | how do I free space? |
21:29.20 | Oleg_ | /dev/hdb3 15G 9.9G 3.9G 72% / |
21:29.44 | Oleg_ | hi |
21:30.06 | sarah03 | Oleg_: You delete stuff that you don't need. |
21:30.37 | Oleg_ | I know but what I don't need I dunno |
21:30.57 | Oleg_ | oh |
21:31.10 | Oleg_ | got an idea |
21:31.18 | Oleg_ | I can delete some soap opera video files |
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21:32.32 | Oleg_ | how can I delete all files that start with the word sunset? |
21:32.56 | Oleg_ | rm -r sunset* ? |
21:33.01 | Oleg_ | I bet it won't work |
21:33.15 | Oleg_ | but let me try it |
21:33.35 | Oleg_ | o-o |
21:34.20 | aseigo_h | and if you had too many you could just do: |
21:34.52 | aseigo_h | for i in sunset*; do rm "$i"; done; ... or use `find` with it's exec option |
21:36.07 | Oleg_ | explain it simpler please |
21:36.29 | Oleg_ | rm -r sunset* $i? |
21:36.37 | Oleg_ | and etc? |
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21:37.22 | Oleg_ | oh |
21:37.37 | Oleg_ | type it exactly as you said? |
21:38.06 | Oleg_ | interesting that you used the letter i |
21:39.06 | Oleg_ | thanks! |
21:39.09 | Oleg_ | you are the man! |
21:40.07 | Oleg_ | ok, now 4.1 GB of free space is left |
21:40.08 | Oleg_ | or are left |
21:40.19 | Oleg_ | I think are left is correct |
21:42.47 | Oleg_ | ok, 4.2 GB are free now |
21:43.53 | Oleg_ | I could delete the real player |
21:45.08 | Oleg_ | oh, shoot! |
21:45.12 | Oleg_ | I forgot! |
21:45.16 | Oleg_ | I can delete gnome!! |
21:45.28 | Oleg_ | This will free up a huge amount of space! |
21:46.58 | Oleg_ | but gnome is scattered in many directories |
21:47.04 | Oleg_ | how do I delete it? |
21:47.14 | Oleg_ | I have a lot of gnome installed |
21:47.25 | Oleg_ | I wanna get rid of gnome completely |
21:48.17 | Oleg_ | ok, I'll be back. I gotta take a shower. |
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21:51.29 | phed | its killing my CPU. And its making my computer useless |
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21:53.36 | ScArE2100_ | is there any sort of desktop search tool for kde based on beagle? |
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21:57.54 | lippel | ScArE2100_: no |
21:58.20 | lippel | (not yet) |
21:58.22 | ScArE2100_ | what about this? http://news.zdnet.co.uk/0,39020330,39164634,00.htm |
21:58.45 | lippel | there is kat.sourceforge.net, but that's in a very early state |
21:59.30 | lippel | ScArE2100_: there are plans for something which covers desktop search |
21:59.37 | ScArE2100_ | and it isn't db driven if I understand correctly |
21:59.40 | lippel | desktop is being a part of it actually |
21:59.55 | ScArE2100_ | http://www.apple.com/macosx/tiger/spotlight.html thats just about the coolest thing ever |
22:00.25 | lippel | if dot.kde.org was up, i could point you to an interview what is planned... |
22:00.41 | lippel | ah, it works again |
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22:01.44 | paras | with kde3.4, ZIP archives show up left in the konqueror navigation window, can this be switched off somehow ? |
22:02.12 | lippel | ScArE2100_: http://dot.kde.org/1109163846/ |
22:02.40 | ScArE2100_ | apple is pretty stupid. They should use open standards for trying to get people to switch to their platform. that .mov file on that page will ONLY play in the latest version of quicktime. |
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22:06.00 | Oleg_ | tell me how to get rid of gnome, please |
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22:06.08 | Oleg_ | I dunno in what dirs it is in |
22:06.14 | Oleg_ | I have a lot of gnome |
22:06.17 | Oleg_ | gnomegames |
22:06.21 | Oleg_ | gnome-core |
22:06.23 | Oleg_ | and etc |
22:07.03 | ScArE2100_ | what distro? |
22:07.08 | Oleg_ | lfs |
22:07.11 | aseigo_h | ScArE2100_: that zdnet article is indeed what we're working on.. don't know if you caught The Linux Box show but i described it in a bit more detail there, and Scott did that interview for the dot (though it's pretty scant on details) |
22:07.23 | Oleg_ | I used lfs instructions to install gnome |
22:07.39 | ScArE2100_ | aseigo: yes I'm reading the interview now |
22:07.40 | Oleg_ | I bet it don't have the instuctions on uninstalling it |
22:07.58 | Oleg_ | rm -r gnome-core |
22:08.00 | Oleg_ | but where |
22:08.01 | Oleg_ | ? |
22:08.18 | Oleg_ | ok, there is no gnome-core |
22:09.15 | lippel | Oleg_: ask in #gnome =) |
22:09.15 | ScArE2100_ | aseigo_h: I didn't catch The Linux Box show, what is it? |
22:09.40 | aseigo_h | ScArE2100_: http://dot.kde.org/1112806202/ |
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22:09.55 | lippel | Oleg_: probably it's directly installed to /usr or /usr/local |
22:10.10 | wrs | Hi all |
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22:12.44 | wrs | Does anyone know how i can find out if an app is dropped? I miss knotes since yesterday... |
22:14.13 | DirkGently | wrs: I think knotes is part of Kontact |
22:14.56 | DirkGently | hmm.. it's in 3.3 |
22:15.26 | wrs | DirkGently: I opened a debian packages mirror (in a browser) ... kontact is also missing |
22:16.34 | wrs | DirkGently: Is sarge released suddenly? ;-) |
22:17.01 | DirkGently | apt-cache search kontact? |
22:17.19 | DirkGently | it's part of kdepim |
22:18.25 | wrs | DirkGently: apt-cache... -> three lines of text. Shall i flood it here or to #flood? |
22:18.28 | DirkGently | it's still in KDE 3.4 |
22:19.05 | DirkGently | wrs: you can do #flood if you like |
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23:01.08 | lauri | yo aseigo, you about? |
23:01.18 | aseigo_h | no. |
23:01.19 | aseigo_h | um. yes. |
23:01.26 | lauri | heh |
23:01.37 | aseigo_h | are you? ;) |
23:01.39 | lauri | can I /query you for a minute? |
23:01.44 | ScArE2100_ | aseigo_h: good interview. |
23:01.47 | lauri | I promise it's not about a bug :) |
23:01.49 | ScArE2100_ | aseigo: thanks :) |
23:01.49 | aseigo_h | ScArE2100_: =) |
23:01.50 | lauri | or kicker |
23:01.57 | aseigo_h | haha.. well in THAT case you surely can =P |
23:02.13 | cartel_ | :) |
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23:03.19 | scrooge | :D:D:D |
23:05.11 | scrooge | lol |
23:08.01 | scrooge | bahh nevermind |
23:08.04 | scrooge | >:O>:O>:O |
23:08.11 | scrooge | krfb just killed my connection |
23:08.15 | scrooge | dunno why |
23:08.20 | scrooge | and the pc is in the basement |
23:08.28 | scrooge | and OMFG it uses some dam random ass password |
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23:10.17 | scrooge | DAM i dont feel like going back inside my house >_< |
23:10.45 | scrooge | erhm...brb |
23:10.56 | lauri | well, they're not going to go in your house for you |
23:11.05 | straw | can i have your stuff, scrooge |
23:11.20 | scrooge | rofl :P |
23:11.24 | scrooge | u want my laptop? |
23:11.47 | straw | whatever you've got... |
23:12.00 | scrooge | 3OS: WinXP Home Edition 5.1 Service Pack 2 (Build #2600) 3CPU: Intel Pentium M , 1.60 GHz 3Video: Sony Notebook LCD (1280x800) on ATi MOBILITY Radeon 9200 (1280x800x32bpp 60Hz) 3Sound: SoundMAX Digital Audio 3Memory: Used: 396/511MB 3Uptime: 2w 4d 4h 38m 58s 3HD: [C:Vaio Drive] 8.08/39.97 GB 3Connection: Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 2200BG Network Connection - Packet Scheduler Miniport @ 11.0 Mbps (Rec: 770.46MB Sent: 171.15MB) |
23:12.08 | scrooge | i have kde + gentoo on here also ^_^ |
23:12.14 | Marrs|vroc | bwah |
23:12.18 | Marrs|vroc | what's that? |
23:12.23 | straw | you can keep the gentoo ;) |
23:12.23 | scrooge | vaio s150 |
23:12.28 | scrooge | rofl :P |
23:12.43 | Marrs|vroc | at least it looks kind of cool |
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23:12.55 | scrooge | oh yea. gotta love it |
23:13.04 | kbrooks | in konsole |
23:13.05 | scrooge | 6hours+ battery life |
23:13.08 | DirkGently | scrooge: what kernel version :¬P |
23:13.10 | kbrooks | i dont see any........ |
23:13.15 | scrooge | 2.6.11.6 |
23:13.15 | Marrs|vroc | I have 1 hour of battery life |
23:13.17 | Marrs|vroc | :) |
23:13.17 | kbrooks | *thinks* |
23:13.20 | kbrooks | ok. |
23:13.21 | scrooge | patched to death |
23:13.25 | scrooge | lol |
23:13.32 | scrooge | oh nah...in linux i get max 3-4 hours |
23:13.33 | scrooge | :( |
23:13.34 | Marrs|vroc | but a quick laptop :) |
23:13.35 | kbrooks | i dont see any text in konsole |
23:13.42 | scrooge | pfft |
23:13.42 | Marrs|vroc | alienware area51m |
23:13.45 | scrooge | my laptop is FAST |
23:14.02 | kbrooks | i dont see any text in konsole! help! |
23:14.16 | scrooge | i compiled glibc with nptl faster then a p4 3.4ghz with HT |
23:14.18 | scrooge | :| |
23:14.19 | kbrooks | perl -MCPAN -e shell <<<< when i type, i dont see anything |
23:14.26 | scrooge | and 1GB ram in the p4^^ |
23:14.31 | scrooge | i only have 512 ^_^ |
23:14.31 | kbrooks | at all. period |
23:14.55 | scrooge | kbrooks, eh? changed the schema? |
23:15.07 | kbrooks | what's the default |
23:15.18 | straw | so i wonder how all the foolishness with BK will affect kde's move to BK |
23:15.23 | scrooge | wateva u make the default to be :P |
23:15.33 | lauri | uhm, straw |
23:15.39 | scrooge | heh |
23:15.41 | lauri | you know that was an april fools joke, right? |
23:15.49 | straw | DOH! |
23:15.53 | scrooge | holy shit |
23:15.54 | scrooge | it was!? |
23:16.01 | lauri | uhh, yes |
23:16.02 | scrooge | subversion was a joke also? |
23:16.09 | lauri | (didn't the names give it away?) |
23:16.16 | straw | damn it. they got me. those bastards |
23:16.17 | lauri | no, SVN is not a joke |
23:16.22 | scrooge | ahh ok |
23:16.27 | scrooge | lies! haha |
23:17.38 | ScArE2100_ | aseigo_h: now I am dieing just waiting for kde 4 ;) |
23:17.42 | scrooge | mm-k booting to kde |
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23:17.57 | straw | here i am a week later still believing it... *sigh* |
23:18.54 | aseigo_h | subversion's not a joke ... we are moving to svn |
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23:20.14 | straw | that should be interesting |
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23:21.30 | scrooge | :D:D |
23:21.32 | scrooge | love teh kde |
23:21.35 | straw | "The bastard son of Hitler is called Ariel Sharon!" |
23:21.40 | straw | wtf? |
23:22.09 | Alethes | yeah, that makes sense. Sharon wants to exterminate the Jews. |
23:22.10 | Alethes | heh |
23:22.17 | Alethes | (sarcasm, of course) |
23:22.22 | scrooge | erhm |
23:22.23 | scrooge | wtf |
23:22.23 | straw | the world is a strange place |
23:22.31 | scrooge | when u [X] kopete im window, it doesnt exit? |
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23:25.15 | straw | scrooge: it should be still there in the System Tray |
23:25.55 | scrooge | im windows go into the systray too!? |
23:26.47 | straw | oh. well no. what did you think would happen when you close a window |
23:27.25 | straw | doh. this is turning out to be a very bad day... |
23:29.03 | scrooge | straw, umm...it should "close" |
23:29.09 | scrooge | thats what X does right? :? |
23:29.21 | scrooge | im not referring to the buddy list menu |
23:29.22 | straw | yeah, i misread. :/ |
23:29.26 | scrooge | :) |
23:30.02 | scrooge | its weird. cuz i X a im, then i open a new buddy im and magically, the X'd im is there in another tab :S |
23:30.32 | straw | this a release or cvs? |
23:30.46 | scrooge | release |
23:31.08 | straw | you know what to do :) |
23:31.51 | scrooge | ?? |
23:31.57 | scrooge | bitch and moan more? |
23:33.18 | straw | go to b.k.o, look for kopete bugs. then file a new, or add to ang existng, bug report |
23:33.36 | scrooge | blahh. bitching is sooo much funner :P |
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23:33.47 | straw | more fun |
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23:56.49 | BadMan | where would you find to enable/disable the spell-as-you-go feature for kmail? for some reason it has quit and I don't remember disabling it? |
23:57.10 | BadMan | btw it stillw orks in kopete IM. |
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23:59.10 | thiago | it disables automatically if you type too wrong :-P |
23:59.32 | thiago | but every once in a while it retests and if the correct/misspelt ratio goes above a certain threshold, it reenables |