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00:21.41 | _apollo2011_ | How do I set the settings for the printer like to print in Draft by default after I set up with YaST using LPRng? |
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01:19.51 | kolie | If i let KDE sit for about 10 minutes, it finally gets to the desktop, otherwise ksplash opens for a little bit then goes away, and just shows the desktop. Why is my kde taking so long to start. |
01:20.17 | simmerz | how do i make kdm start xmodmap when it runs? |
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01:22.48 | j0seph | ln -s it to the Autostart folder |
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01:32.27 | kolie | Is it possible its taking forever because its trying to read something, say a floppy, that doesnt exist? |
01:33.02 | thiago | kolie: NFS home? |
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01:33.13 | kolie | what? no. its all ext3 |
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01:33.59 | thiago | can you check what processes are running during that time nothing is being shown? |
01:34.12 | thiago | is anything getting logged to ~/.xsession-errors? |
01:34.32 | kolie | it hangs on itializing services, for awhile, then the ksplash goes away, then a minute later it says there is no /dev/dsp, then i hit ok, then like 5 min later KDE finally starts |
01:34.39 | kolie | let me check. |
01:36.22 | kolie | bad font path element..... kdesktop error: coldnt create slave : unable to creat io-slace.... other then that it looks standard.. like i said, kde starts, eventually. |
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01:40.37 | TomWitt | Hey, everybody. I have a konqueror question I'm hoping someone can help me with. |
01:41.29 | TomWitt | When in directory browsing mode, every folder/directory I double click on starts mplayer instead of opening the directory. |
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01:42.08 | TomWitt | Would anyone have any suggestions about which preference settings to check to correct this behavior? |
01:42.57 | thiago | kolie: can you paste to a paste bin the exact messages? |
01:43.15 | thiago | TomWitt: the associations to inode/directory |
01:43.21 | kolie | no.... i cant copy and paste from nano, not smart enough... |
01:43.24 | thiago | if mplayer isn't listed there, try the ones in all/* |
01:43.35 | thiago | kolie: so why are you using it? |
01:43.42 | TomWitt | thiago, thanks; I'll check that now |
01:43.57 | kolie | because I dont have KDE working properly? |
01:44.20 | thiago | kolie: use cat, less, etc. whatever. |
01:44.31 | kolie | ok and then how do i get that into a paste bin |
01:44.47 | thiago | use a browser |
01:45.03 | thiago | go to http://rafb.net/paste and paste there |
01:45.11 | kolie | will links work? cause thats all i got. |
01:45.16 | TomWitt | thiago: You da man! That fixed me right up. I would never have thought to check there. |
01:45.31 | thiago | kolie: we can hope :) |
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01:45.46 | kolie | let me move my laptop to the corner of the room that gets the internet. |
01:45.47 | kolie | :) |
01:47.22 | troy | anyone know any good gui interfaces to convert divx to vcd-ready mpegs? |
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01:49.56 | kolie | thiago, the best i could do www.stillyourpresident.com/.xsession-errors |
01:50.51 | kolie | i used kill to close kde. |
01:51.01 | kolie | thats why it gets a child killed. |
01:51.13 | kolie | but kde started all the way, just took 100 years. |
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01:53.31 | ahuman | It seems I've lost the Konqueror side panel (or whatever) ... all those Clock, Star and Folder icons on the left .see here: http://www.novell.com/documentation/nld/index.html?page=/documentation/nld/userguide_kde/data/sec.kdenew.konqui.html |
01:57.02 | thiago | kolie: sorry... there's nothing there that explains why it's so slow |
01:57.06 | thiago | sorry I can't help |
01:57.49 | kolie | damn, thanks anyways. |
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02:04.40 | punkcut | whats the app in kde called that allows you to edit runlevel services? |
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02:24.55 | DebianTUX | Algum brazuca presente? |
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02:25.56 | thiago | yep |
02:26.12 | thiago | this channel is English only, so come to #kde-brasil if you want to talk in Portuguese |
02:26.28 | DebianTUX | thiago, thanks |
02:27.05 | Dhraakellian | nisi pecunium omnem mihi dabis, at capit tuum saxem immane mittam? |
02:29.11 | thiago | can't translate that |
02:29.25 | kolie | how do i change runlevel at boottime, my 5 is fuxxored |
02:29.34 | thiago | saxem is not a known word |
02:29.57 | thiago | pecunium is probably misspelt, because genetive plural doesn't make sense at that position |
02:30.57 | kolie | how do i setup my xorg.conf properly, make KDM default, and have it start on boot? |
02:31.28 | thiago | kolie: you change the default runlevel by editing /etc/inittab. You can change the runlevel at boot time by adding the runlevel number to your kernel command-line |
02:31.53 | kolie | yea that end of the kernel line thing didnt work... i am using my install cd to mount my / |
02:32.35 | Dhraakellian | thiago, heh... |
02:32.52 | Dhraakellian | saxxum, perhaps |
02:33.07 | kolie | ok i changed my default run level. |
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02:33.18 | thiago | still unknown |
02:33.31 | kolie | what about doing the xorg.conf and making kdm run? |
02:33.38 | thiago | "unless you give me all the money, I will seize all your huge ... " |
02:33.48 | Dhraakellian | fling an enormous rock at your head |
02:34.12 | Dhraakellian | the two preceding words are "catapultum habeo" |
02:34.19 | thiago | hmm... saxum |
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02:35.36 | thiago | I can't account for "at capit" |
02:35.48 | kolie | have a catapult. Give me all the money, or I will fling an enormous rock at your head |
02:35.52 | kolie | :) |
02:36.10 | thiago | ah! |
02:36.36 | thiago | you wrote, "unless you give me all money's, he catches, I will cast your huge rock" |
02:37.18 | kolie | fark now its stuck after loading module ndiswrapper. |
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02:37.46 | kolie | stupid #gentoo screwed me over. |
02:38.03 | Dhraakellian | heh |
02:38.13 | Dhraakellian | It's been a few years since I took latin |
02:38.54 | Dhraakellian | cast an enormous rock at your head |
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02:39.33 | mattr | howdy |
02:39.41 | kolie | CUM CATAPULTAE PROSCRIPTAE ERUNT TUM SOLI PROSCRIPT CATAPULTAS HABEBUNT |
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02:42.27 | tmorton | I |
02:42.28 | tmorton | Err |
02:42.45 | tmorton | I'm getting an error from kaudiocreator: "trying to create local folder: Invalid argument" |
02:42.53 | mattr | never seen that |
02:42.54 | thiago | you probably meant "nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, in capite tuo saxum immane mittam" |
02:43.04 | tmorton | Here's an strace: |
02:43.07 | tmorton | Err |
02:43.19 | tmorton | I'll put it in a paste service |
02:43.20 | mattr | nice strace. ;) |
02:43.49 | Dhraakellian | I've seen that before, I think |
02:44.00 | tmorton | http://rafb.net/paste/results/bSqysv77.html |
02:44.02 | Dhraakellian | thiago, yes on "pecuniam" |
02:44.26 | tmorton | Any ideas? |
02:45.13 | mattr | yeah, kaudiocreator doesn't quote the directories |
02:45.19 | tmorton | Workaround? |
02:45.22 | mattr | s/quote/esacpe |
02:45.23 | mattr | none |
02:45.36 | tmorton | Damn :( |
02:46.09 | dwango | i love fish:/ |
02:47.47 | Dhraakellian | tmorton, just use audiocd:/ |
02:47.59 | Dhraakellian | although that doesn't give you the most control over tagging |
02:48.05 | mattr | kaudiocreator uses audiocd:/ as a backend... |
02:48.20 | tmorton | Dhraakellian, yeh, that's what I'm doing--but you're write about tagging... |
02:48.26 | kolie | how do i remove XDM from a runlevel |
02:49.01 | mattr | kolie: usually it involves editing the /etc/inittab file, but it all depends on your distro |
02:49.16 | Dhraakellian | like the way konqueror's settings are available in kcontro |
02:49.25 | Dhraakellian | or something like that |
02:49.29 | kolie | im using gentoo |
02:49.48 | mattr | kolie: rc-update del xdm default |
02:49.54 | mattr | kolie: requires root |
02:50.54 | kolie | I booted off the gentoo install cd |
02:51.01 | kolie | cause i cant boot into my install |
02:51.06 | kolie | ie, rc-update wont work |
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02:51.50 | mattr | kolie: mount your normal root partition on /mnt/gentoo and chroot in and change it |
02:52.05 | kolie | chroot? |
02:52.36 | kolie | o yea |
02:52.36 | kolie | chroot |
02:52.37 | kolie | i remeber |
02:52.39 | mattr | (only because a chroot is part of the install process) |
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02:52.55 | kolie | i was thinking of something else. |
02:53.05 | kolie | right now im questiong everything i know, the system is so fux. |
02:53.33 | kolie | ok i think this will fix it. |
02:54.41 | kolie | hah. ok i got login |
02:55.06 | kolie | what the f. startx works. .... |
02:56.02 | kolie | running KDM works as well... |
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03:06.05 | kolie | Anyone know why my KDE takes 10 minutes to start all the way? |
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03:13.33 | [_]illogic-al | hola mattr |
03:14.58 | grepper | kolie: check if the loopback is up |
03:15.06 | kolie | how? |
03:15.13 | grepper | /sbin/ifconfig |
03:15.25 | kolie | ahh, yea i remember, how do i turn it on at boot |
03:15.35 | grepper | is it up or not ? |
03:15.40 | grepper | was that the problem ? |
03:15.41 | kolie | it wasnt |
03:15.43 | kolie | thats the problem |
03:15.49 | grepper | what distro ? |
03:15.50 | kolie | but how do i turn it on a boot |
03:15.51 | kolie | gentoo |
03:15.52 | mattr | rc-update add net.lo boot |
03:16.07 | kolie | its already on at boot... |
03:16.15 | mattr | then there's something wrong with /etc/conf.d/net |
03:16.33 | kolie | ahh shit i see why. |
03:16.35 | mattr | or /etc/rc.conf |
03:17.15 | kolie | nah, i forgot my net.wlan0 was a symlink |
03:17.20 | kolie | to net.lo |
03:17.27 | kolie | and i made some specific changes. |
03:18.06 | kolie | hopefully KDM starts... |
03:18.21 | kolie | ok... now kde's turn. |
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03:19.04 | kolie | what does initializing system services do? |
03:19.07 | kolie | it takes forever.. |
03:19.15 | mattr | starts everything you need |
03:19.17 | mattr | dcop server, etc |
03:19.30 | mattr | the reason it takes forever is probably because name lookups fail |
03:19.30 | kolie | its still taking forever to start KDE |
03:19.36 | mattr | do you have your hostname in /etc/hosts |
03:19.52 | kolie | yea... |
03:19.57 | kolie | what should my ifconfig look like |
03:19.59 | mattr | lo is up, right? |
03:20.02 | illogic-al | lol |
03:20.07 | kolie | its up, i dont think it has an ip though |
03:20.12 | mattr | well, it needs an up |
03:20.15 | mattr | err, ip |
03:20.19 | mattr | 127.0.0.1 actually |
03:20.20 | kolie | all i did was emerge kdebase-kdestart then the meta or so,ething |
03:21.09 | kolie | yea i gave it an ip |
03:21.10 | kolie | it worked :) |
03:21.14 | kolie | i love you. |
03:22.43 | mattr | kolie: now the catch is to make sure things work correctly on a reboot |
03:22.48 | kolie | thye do |
03:22.52 | kolie | i have it setup so it does :P |
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03:23.30 | kolie | im resetting anyways though.. |
03:23.32 | _brian_ | hi |
03:23.52 | kolie | hey, i burnt an iso :) |
03:23.57 | kolie | that was cool. |
03:24.15 | kolie | like at a command line. |
03:24.47 | kolie | yea its working. |
03:25.00 | kolie | hmm now im going to figure out how to get sound working. |
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03:33.17 | scrooge | :D |
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03:40.36 | kolie | Ok i think i got sound working, how do i change the volume |
03:42.55 | mattr | kolie: it sounds like you could use a general linux help channel |
03:43.07 | mattr | kolie: try #lfd or #linux maybe |
03:43.33 | mattr | kolie: although you could try running alsamixer and changing the volumes that way, or use KMix |
03:43.35 | kolie | f'er i didnt hear anything |
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04:00.30 | kolie | haha whos got audio now bitch! |
04:00.59 | illogic-al | you? |
04:01.39 | kolie | hell yes. :) |
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04:25.04 | mattr | time for bed. night all |
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04:25.40 | SuperLag | what is kded? |
04:26.17 | illogic-al | pure awesomeness |
04:26.25 | illogic-al | in a can |
04:28.09 | SuperLag | Okay... then why would it take 99.9% of my CPU resources? |
04:29.33 | illogic-al | it's supposed to load parts ok kde into memory so that they are easier to access |
04:30.50 | illogic-al | 'ps ax|grep kded' to see if you can find what exactly is doing it (I'd think it's something managed by kded) |
04:31.42 | illogic-al | bah. useless ps ax|grep kdeinit maybe |
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04:53.55 | bobbyz | Which dir stores the trash in kde 3.4? My comp crashed while I was emptying trash and I would like to make sure that the trash dir is empty. |
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04:58.24 | illogic-al | bobbyz: ~/.local/blaaaaaaaaaaaaah |
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05:09.38 | closure | hello |
05:09.42 | closure | anyone around? |
05:09.45 | closure | i've got a question |
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05:10.05 | closure | i am running KDE 3.4 i'm trying to set it up to run mozilla by default as the web browser |
05:10.12 | closure | but have the argument to open in a new tab |
05:10.18 | closure | does anyone know how to do this? |
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05:37.09 | bobbyz | thanks |
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05:58.29 | Borg^Queen | Hey people. |
05:58.40 | Borg^Queen | What replaces audio:/ in kde 3.4? |
05:58.54 | Borg^Queen | I wanted to use konq to rip an audio cd |
06:01.12 | cartel_ | borg^Queen: audiocd:/ |
06:01.19 | Borg^Queen | Thank you |
06:01.26 | cartel_ | Borg^Queen: f9 :) |
06:01.36 | Borg^Queen | f9? |
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06:02.42 | Borg^Queen | cartel_: and once again you have proven Bill Gates correct, "there is no support for gnu linux" |
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06:04.01 | Dhraakellian | Borg^Queen, F9 in konqueror shows/hides the sidebar |
06:04.09 | Borg^Queen | Aye, I know |
06:04.11 | Dhraakellian | "navigation panel," I think it's called |
06:04.15 | Dhraakellian | hehheh |
06:04.24 | Borg^Queen | Why did you use it, is it a face? |
06:04.43 | Dhraakellian | ,':-| |
06:05.19 | Borg^Queen | Ah ok |
06:05.23 | Borg^Queen | Odd faces |
06:06.13 | Borg^Queen | In any case, thanks. |
06:06.16 | Borg^Queen | Good night to all |
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06:07.54 | cartel_ | lol |
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06:23.25 | Japsu | Hey, I have a working pppd config and chatscripts set up on my laptop for GPRS access over Bluetooth. However, I'd like to use KPPP for activating the connection. |
06:23.57 | Japsu | Can KPPP be configured to just run pppd with the specified arguments ("pppd call gprs")? Without specifying the connection settings in KPPP, that is? |
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06:31.30 | kaffien | anyone here use vpn's to contact work? |
06:31.41 | kaffien | im having issues with getting kde on a vpn |
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06:36.55 | chakie | hm, kmail has totally broken down for me when used with an imap server. it detects no new mail and always shows the first mail in INBOX without body. older mails are shown ok, but maybe they are cached locally? sending works as it should |
06:37.25 | chakie | the mail server is ok, a webmail client shows the stuff just fine |
06:37.41 | chakie | hard to report a bug as it seems so "general" somehow |
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06:39.10 | Japsu | hmm |
06:39.18 | Japsu | I don't have such problems with kmail and IMAP |
06:39.32 | chakie | has worked ok for a year before that (bar a few crashes) |
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06:42.36 | chakie | i'll try nuking all settings i find for it |
06:43.35 | chakie | is disconnected imap safe for normal use now? |
06:44.09 | chakie | anyone had their mailboxes chewed up with kmail from kde 3.4? |
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06:59.57 | huntharo | I'm working on debugging a problem in an X-Server that is manifested by KDE. |
07:00.24 | huntharo | The problem is that when you open the "K" menu or have any application not-minimized, then the X-Server CPU usage jumps to 100% and stays there. |
07:00.33 | chakie | ugh, now all imap folders are fscked up. all show only one mail and without body |
07:00.47 | huntharo | The usage seems to be caused by a valid X Request sequence, which is: |
07:01.20 | huntharo | X_CreateGC, X_ChangeGC, X_ChangeGC, X_CopyArea, X_FreeGC, repeated thousands of times. |
07:01.52 | huntharo | If you minimize all apps and allow the "K" menu to close, then the usage drops back down to 1%. |
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07:02.33 | chakie | hm, the shown mail is the first to be put in the folders, ie the oldest one |
07:02.49 | huntharo | Does this strike anyone as being related to anything in particular? I'm wondering if one of our return values is messed up, causing the sequence to keep repeating. |
07:07.58 | chakie | "disconnected imap" shows the imap data ok. i'll try that from now on |
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07:34.51 | servus | ps augwx | awk '/kde/i {mem+=$4;} END{print mem;}': 94.6 -- That's 94.6% of my 512MB of RAM and I have nothing else open except for XChat and Konsole... Nice : o) |
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07:36.01 | sarah03 | servus: That's on the assumption that %mem only counts memory that is only in use by a single process and resident. |
07:36.26 | servus | `top` agrees with the results. |
07:36.37 | servus | The point is... Ouch. Restarting X now, see ya! |
07:36.39 | sarah03 | Anything mapped in read-only, or read-write but unchaged, have the same physical memory pages. |
07:36.56 | sarah03 | [For the same segment of any given file, anyway.] |
07:36.59 | servus | I have 50MB of RAM left... |
07:37.12 | servus | Anyway... something is amiss. |
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07:41.52 | servus | killall -9 "*kde*" |
07:42.04 | servus | Much better. |
07:42.25 | sarah03 | servus: If you don't mind my saying so, having free memory *does* mean something is wrong. It means that your OS isn't doing it's job, as it should be trying to cache as much as it possibly can off disk. |
07:43.02 | canllaith | apt: memusage |
07:43.03 | apt | i heard memusage is http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=175419 |
07:43.04 | servus | Having Konsole act painfully slow on an unloaded 2.2GHz processor with 512MB of RAM means something else is wrong, too. |
07:43.08 | canllaith | Try reading that servus |
07:43.22 | servus | How will implementation details help an enduser? |
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07:43.31 | canllaith | and yes, it does. Konsole and indeed all of KDE runs fast and snappy on my 700MHz/256MB |
07:43.47 | canllaith | So there is definitely something wrong there. |
07:44.23 | canllaith | ... but 50MB memory free is not it, and if you read that link you'd understand why :) |
07:44.51 | servus | Yes, after restarting X it is much quicker. |
07:45.18 | servus | Sounds like a memory leak, mmm? Seems like when Firefox gets out of hand and spinlocks -- as it is more than happy to do -- it causes this behaviour |
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07:46.02 | canllaith | Unless that memory leak is causing you to hit swap constantly, it shouldn't do that. |
07:46.04 | canllaith | Heya PhilRod :) |
07:46.10 | servus | Which is curious, because when Firefox locks up, `top` shows the CPU being allocated to X. |
07:46.17 | PhilRod | morning canllaith :-) |
07:46.22 | canllaith | How you going? :) |
07:46.25 | servus | No, it has nothing to do with hard drive thrashing. It's just general... slowness./ |
07:46.59 | straw | servus: what's your video card? |
07:47.00 | sarah03 | Hm. I never get Firefox locking up; it just goes boom. |
07:48.10 | servus | I am running a VIA Unichrome that I set up for DRI with full acceleration. |
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07:48.15 | canllaith | Wow, this trackpoint style mice are bloody annoying |
07:48.45 | straw | servus: is the render extension accelerated on that hardware? |
07:48.57 | sarah03 | canllaith: Hm, they are a bit on the annoying side. Once you get used to them, they aren't so bad, though. |
07:49.02 | servus | I am using the proper drivers, yes. |
07:49.19 | canllaith | sarah03: I've never used one before - I imagine I will get used to it, yeah :) |
07:49.33 | canllaith | and the build quality and general linux niceness of an IBM does make up for the trackpoint |
07:49.45 | slayerbob | :o |
07:49.53 | servus | It really is just a memory leak issue -- restarting X helps things considerably, until I abuse Firefox again. I'm not too concerned about it. |
07:49.57 | canllaith | slayerbob: brucehoult got himself a t22 and I'm playing with it :) |
07:50.05 | slayerbob | what is a t22 ? |
07:50.07 | sarah03 | I've used multiple of them... one thing which might make it a bit less uncomfortable to use is to see if you can find a new eraserhead for it. |
07:50.10 | canllaith | slayerbob: same as oti |
07:50.31 | canllaith | 900MHz/2.5KG/256MB/14.1" |
07:50.41 | slayerbob | so it is a notebook then ? |
07:50.43 | canllaith | Yes |
07:50.47 | slayerbob | right :) |
07:50.55 | canllaith | Nah, it's a 2.5KG IBM desktop ;) |
07:50.58 | canllaith | :P |
07:51.00 | slayerbob | oh nice |
07:51.02 | sarah03 | lol |
07:51.07 | slayerbob | one of those little cases like the shuttle ones then ? :P |
07:51.14 | slayerbob | or more like a mac mini ? |
07:51.16 | canllaith | :P |
07:51.18 | canllaith | You're a goose |
07:51.20 | slayerbob | :P |
07:51.23 | slayerbob | i tries :P |
07:51.38 | sarah03 | slayerbob: Damn, I was going to say that. |
07:51.50 | canllaith | It has a nice feeling keyboard |
07:51.56 | canllaith | almost as nice as those two dell's at franz |
07:52.02 | servus | For my next computer, I should forego the case and just coat the motherboard in some sort of heat-conductive acrylic. |
07:52.35 | sarah03 | IBM does have the nice laptop keyboard thing going on, that is for certain. |
07:53.11 | sarah03 | I wish I could rip the keyboard off of the dead IBM laptop that I've got here and toss it into one of the toshiba laptops that I have ... |
07:53.12 | PhilRod | wooo, www.dilbert.com is particularly good today :-) |
07:53.21 | sarah03 | But unfortunately that doesn't work too terribly well. |
07:55.25 | slayerbob | sarah03: you could try it anyway :P |
07:55.29 | slayerbob | what is the worst that could happen ? |
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07:55.49 | sarah03 | slayerbob: Besides for the fact that the connector won't fit anyway? |
07:56.10 | slayerbob | just use some duct-tape to connect the relevant conductors together |
07:56.34 | sarah03 | Pfft. |
07:56.41 | slayerbob | man having the internet at home has put me in a good mood today :P |
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08:42.17 | baggins | hi. |
08:42.36 | slayerbob | g'day |
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08:43.32 | baggins | hey |
08:43.39 | slayerbob | greetings |
08:43.45 | baggins | i have a big bunch of kio_thumbnail processes lying around. |
08:44.15 | baggins | bill@bagend:~ > psfl | grep kio_thumbnail | wc -l |
08:44.15 | baggins | 375 |
08:46.04 | baggins | ok, i just killall -9 them |
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09:09.15 | theosk | Hi |
09:09.22 | theosk | a total noobie question ;) |
09:10.15 | theosk | I just installed Ubuntu for the first time, and i have almost no linux knowledge, what steps should i follow to install the debian kde packages? |
09:11.28 | mobtek | try an ubuntu channel :) |
09:11.58 | theosk | ok, ty |
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09:46.11 | volty | kde-3.3.2, konqueror, select word with mouse, right button and context menu appears (copy text, seach google...), is it possibile to add other handlers and how? |
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09:51.08 | codin | how can I change the window manager ? |
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10:20.44 | bmfan | hello |
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10:32.18 | kaeptnb | codin: dont change the windowmanager with kde |
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10:38.05 | sunru | media:// doesn't work with drag 'n' drop |
10:38.09 | sunru | comn |
10:38.12 | sunru | :D |
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10:38.37 | irad | where the icon of the kmenu is located? |
10:39.03 | PhilRod | codin: with the KDEWM environment variable |
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10:43.49 | codin | thanks |
10:46.19 | sunru | media:// doesn't work with drag n drop |
10:46.24 | sunru | should fix it |
10:46.26 | kaeptnb | hm. does this work well? i thought kde is very depending on kwin ... |
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10:46.41 | sunru | JediMaster: |
10:47.37 | DarthSun | muahahaha |
10:47.51 | DarthSun | :=:----------------------* |
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10:50.28 | sunru | weak jedis |
10:56.42 | JediMaster | hey, that wasn't fair, I wasn't looking! |
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11:49.00 | fbtab | hi all |
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11:49.53 | fbtab | i was wondering if someone could help me, when plugging in a usb disk, the kernel contacts hotplug to load the correct module, what then mounts the disk and gets kde to create the icon on the desktop? |
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12:21.51 | volty | kde-3.3.2, konqueror, select word with mouse, right button and context menu appears (copy text, seach google...), is it possibile to add other handlers and how? |
12:25.00 | ManLord | HOW to start 2 instances of kaffeine? |
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12:45.59 | Steve973 | anyone know why i have to start the gnome control center to have my gtk apps reflect my chosen gnome theme when i run them in kde? |
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12:46.36 | peratu | Hi, |
12:48.57 | PhilRod | Steve973: take a look at (KDE) control center-> appearance & themes -> colours |
12:49.09 | PhilRod | make sure "apply KDE colours to other ..." is unchecked |
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13:05.12 | volty | kde-3.3.2, konqueror, select word with mouse, right button and context menu appears (copy text, seach google...), is it possibile to add other handlers and how? |
13:06.00 | PhilRod | from the mailing list, it looks like no |
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13:06.15 | PhilRod | you can request it as a wishlist on bugs.kde.org |
13:06.38 | volty | to me? thx :) |
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13:53.11 | CascadeHush | greetings |
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13:56.13 | da_bon_bon | hi all |
13:56.14 | da_bon_bon | hey, in restart button of kde, theres a small black triangle, which pops up and lets me select the next os - i think it uses grub to detect the os's -- but if i select say, slackware, it doesnt work. still grub selects windows during next reboot, which, incidentally, i have set to be defualt |
13:56.16 | CascadeHush | I prefer to use the External Taskbar, and was wondering if it was possible to remove the taskbar from the main bear |
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13:57.26 | CascadeHush | interesting to know, but I'll have to look out for that |
13:57.52 | _Heathen_ | Just installed KDE 3.3 using emerge on Gentoo 2005, for some reason everything looks very grainy. It seems to help when I change the blending, but I can't get it perfect, any ideas? |
13:57.52 | CascadeHush | grup didn't detect windows here, I had to ask someone how to configure it to get windows back |
13:59.42 | floyd_n_milan | can anyone provide me with good links about dcop? |
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14:00.39 | Nextor | hi! How can I deactivate the taskbar balloon tips |
14:00.40 | Nextor | ? |
14:07.31 | PhilRod | floyd_n_milan: the following two links have information: |
14:07.33 | PhilRod | ~ug |
14:07.34 | apt | rumour has it, ug is http://docs.kde.org/en/HEAD/kdebase/userguide/ |
14:07.35 | PhilRod | ~dcoptut |
14:07.36 | apt | [dcoptut] http://www.linux-magazine.com/issue/36/KDE_Scripting_DCOP.pdf |
14:07.54 | PhilRod | in the user guide, see the "scripting the desktop" section |
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14:08.13 | floyd_n_milan | oh thanks |
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14:08.26 | floyd_n_milan | im reading an article in linux gazette right now... :) |
14:08.31 | PhilRod | Nextor: control center -> desktop -> panel -> somewhere under "advanced" |
14:08.43 | PhilRod | _Heathen_: do you have a screenshot? |
14:09.09 | PhilRod | CascadeHush: click on the little handle next to the taskbar, and click "remove taskbar" |
14:09.53 | _Heathen_ | PhilRod: Lemme snap one for you |
14:10.06 | PhilRod | if you've removed applet handles, the setting to restore them is somewhere in control center -> desktop -> panel -> advanced |
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14:10.41 | _Heathen_ | actually ive realized kpersonalizer never ran, perhaps if i run it i wont have the problem? i'm trying to find it in the menu to start it |
14:10.49 | pholie | Hello, is there any official KDE buglist so I don´t report something that is already reported? |
14:10.59 | PhilRod | just Alt+F2, kpersonalizer should work |
14:11.10 | _Heathen_ | Okay thanks |
14:11.12 | PhilRod | pholie: bugs.kde.org has a wizard, which searches through existing bugs |
14:11.16 | da_bon_bon | hey, in restart button of kde, theres a small black triangle, which pops up and lets me select the next os - i think it uses grub to detect the os's -- but if i select say, slackware, it doesnt work. still grub selects windows during next reboot, which, incidentally, i have set to be defualt |
14:11.29 | _Heathen_ | ah that's handy =) |
14:11.55 | pholie | ah, da_bon_bon is here :) |
14:12.10 | da_bon_bon | pholie: so are u :) |
14:12.23 | PhilRod | pholie: I wrote an article about bugs.kde.org for dot.kde.org - search for 10,000 on dot.kde.org and you'll probably find it |
14:12.40 | da_bon_bon | so, does kde integrate and interface with grub ? |
14:13.03 | PhilRod | _Heathen_: I have to go out for a bit. Paste the screenie here: someone might be able to help. Please also privmsg the link to me, and I'll take a look when I get back |
14:14.56 | _Heathen_ | Okay thanks |
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14:18.08 | _Heathen_ | Anyone interested in screenshots of my messed up desktop: |
14:18.19 | _Heathen_ | www.geocities.com/mykothopea/desktop.png and desktop1.png |
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14:20.26 | jetsaredim | is there a way to get a given app to appear on only some virtual desktops? |
14:20.41 | jetsaredim | as opposed to "one" or "all" |
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14:21.38 | da_bon_bon | hey, in restart button of kde, theres a small black triangle, which pops up and lets me select the next os - i think it uses grub to detect the os's -- but if i select say, slackware, it doesnt work. still grub selects windows during next reboot, which, incidentally, i have set to be defualt |
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14:22.02 | fek | moin |
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14:35.03 | jetsaredim | anyone? |
14:35.21 | jetsaredim | I'm trying to get a certain app to appear on 2 of 3 virtual desktops |
14:35.27 | Tm_T | ah |
14:35.33 | jetsaredim | but the menus don't seem to lend themselves to this |
14:35.40 | jetsaredim | where are these settings kept? |
14:35.41 | Tm_T | now you asking a very interesting question =) |
14:38.45 | jetsaredim | so, what's the answer? |
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14:44.54 | CascadeHush | PhilRod: A belated thanks for the tip about the taskbar... |
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14:54.51 | jetsaredim | is kde 3.4 much better than kde 3.3? |
14:55.54 | Zalamander | jetsaredim it has some neat additions. KMail authentication is much improved -- that's one thing I've noticed. |
14:56.07 | jetsaredim | neh - i don't use kmail |
14:56.51 | Zalamander | jetsaredim maybe you'd like to specify what would make it "better" for you, and someone can tell you if 3.4 does that :-) |
14:57.05 | jetsaredim | well - its not that i have any problems with 3.3 |
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14:57.20 | jetsaredim | just wondering if there were any "gee whiz" features |
14:58.06 | floyd_n_milan | anyone using krusader? |
14:58.30 | Zalamander | Well, I'm quite happy to see the sub-anchor bug fixed in konqueror. |
14:58.31 | floyd_n_milan | jetsaredim, i can't directly comment on that, but i find myself loving KDE 3.4 |
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14:58.44 | jetsaredim | ok |
14:59.02 | jetsaredim | well - one thing that I'd like is to be able to get a window in 2 of 3 vir desktops |
14:59.06 | Zalamander | jetsaredim some people find "fast-user-switching" pretty spiffy |
14:59.15 | jetsaredim | instead of all or one |
14:59.35 | jetsaredim | I'm a lovely linux user wherever i am |
14:59.40 | jetsaredim | *lonely |
14:59.45 | Zalamander | jetsaredim yeah, I was just poking around the window settings menus. Very intricate, but I didn't see an option that would do that. |
15:00.06 | jetsaredim | it must be a setting somewhere, but can't figure out where |
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15:00.51 | Zalamander | I am having problems with kicker, when I highlight text in a large <textarea> kicker freezes for 7 seconds or so. Every time. |
15:01.16 | Zalamander | that could be one drawback to 3.4 ;-) |
15:01.28 | Zalamander | there are some apps too. Like Akregator |
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15:18.51 | PhilRod | _Heathen_: your display is set to 8 or 16 bit, I think |
15:18.59 | PhilRod | change the depth in xorg.conf |
15:20.07 | illogic-al | floyd_n_milan: Dhraakellian does i think |
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15:22.48 | floyd_n_milan | oh |
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15:29.13 | Zalamander | What do I need to enable to have my korganizer events pop up notices? I have events that are scheduled to notify me, but I have inadvertantly turned off something that enables the alarms, and I'm not sure what? |
15:29.35 | Zalamander | is it kalarm? |
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15:36.26 | PhilRod | yeah, the korganizer alarm daemon |
15:36.34 | PhilRod | or something along those lines |
15:37.28 | StevenR | Zalamander: korgac |
15:39.09 | PhilRod | ~servicemenus |
15:39.10 | apt | hmm... servicemenus is http://developer.kde.org/documentation/tutorials/dot/servicemenus.html |
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15:48.08 | Zalamander | StevenR thanks. I found and enabled kalarmd, which seems to do the trick. What is the difference between kalarmd and korgac? |
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15:48.47 | StevenR | Zalamander: i think kalarmd is standalone, but korgac integrates with kontact/korganiser |
15:48.56 | StevenR | Zalamander: but im not entirely certain :) |
15:49.24 | Zalamander | OK. It appears that I already did have korgac running. So I guess I need both |
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15:57.14 | titou | hi |
15:57.24 | sredna | Hello * |
15:57.25 | titou | how can i do to start a new session with KDE 3.4 ? |
15:57.37 | titou | the « launch new session » does not exist anymore in 3.4 :( |
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15:58.34 | sredna | titou: You need to use KDM to have that, and afaik KDM from the same kde version |
15:58.41 | sredna | I have it here ;) |
15:58.43 | azazello | hi, how do I force a window to live in the system tray in the window-specific preferences? |
15:58.49 | titou | sredna: i use KDM |
15:58.59 | titou | and the KDM version is 3.4 |
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15:59.22 | sredna | azazello: Not |
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15:59.28 | Flendor | Hello. |
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15:59.37 | sredna | Hi Flendor :) |
15:59.48 | azazello | sredna: not what? |
16:00.05 | titou | sredna: at the place of the old « launch new session » i just have « change user » but i can't create "new" user session :( |
16:00.08 | azazello | not possible? :/ |
16:00.17 | Flendor | Hey there sredna, how are you? |
16:00.38 | titou | annma: kiss miss :p |
16:00.57 | sredna | azazello: No, you can't make that a window setting afaik |
16:01.19 | azazello | that sucks |
16:01.42 | titou | sredna: so, you don't have any ideas ? :/ |
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16:02.02 | sredna | Flendor: http://83.73.143.23:8003/summer.jpg 8) |
16:02.10 | StevenR | titou: i have switch user --> Lock current seesion and start new session |
16:02.17 | mikeo | is there a way to make the mouseover preview size bigger? |
16:02.22 | mikeo | for pictures and stuff |
16:02.26 | StevenR | titou: ans start new session too |
16:02.26 | sredna | titou: No, it exists here |
16:02.28 | titou | StevenR: why i don't have this ? |
16:02.49 | titou | this option is in a separate "package" ? |
16:03.02 | sredna | azazello: You can change the command for your app to use ksystraycmd |
16:03.10 | sredna | titou: Nope, it |
16:03.13 | sredna | S part of kdm |
16:03.30 | sredna | titou: Did you change your X installation or settings? |
16:03.38 | titou | nop |
16:03.50 | azazello | sredna: that's the same as checking "put in system tray" in the .desktop shortcut, right? I don't think that works if the app spawns new windows |
16:04.09 | sredna | azazello: No, that is right |
16:04.11 | titou | i just upgrade my system to use KDE 3.4 |
16:04.12 | Flendor | Oh, let me see that sredna |
16:04.49 | sredna | Flendor: First day wqearing shorts ;) |
16:04.54 | StevenR | titou: check the settings in kdmrc |
16:05.14 | StevenR | mikeo: i dont think so |
16:05.24 | Flendor | Hehe :) |
16:05.29 | Flendor | It's not that warm in here yet.. |
16:05.43 | Flendor | Is that your garden, by chance? |
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16:05.46 | sredna | I love it :-) |
16:06.09 | Flendor | I need to go to the outdoors more often..I've become a real couch potato :/ |
16:06.12 | azazello | also, what's the deal with the K menu letter shortcuts? When I open the K menu and press a letter, it toggles underlining the entry that starts with that letter, instead of launching it. Can I use a letter to launch the corresponding entry? |
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16:06.17 | sredna | Flendor: Yep, that is just outside my house |
16:06.35 | Flendor | Nice :) It's almost impossible to get a house with a garden in Istanbul :( |
16:07.01 | sredna | Flendor: Oh, I live in the far side.. gardens are standard here :-) |
16:07.04 | titou | StevenR: do you know the correct line i need to have in the kdmrc to have this option ? |
16:07.05 | Flendor | Nice goatee BTW :) |
16:07.26 | StevenR | titou: no, not right now...search for vt |
16:07.32 | Flendor | My father would really love a house with a garden.. He would immensely enjoy gardening and growing some veggies :) |
16:07.52 | Flendor | "Let me see you make decisions..without your television.." |
16:08.36 | titou | i found anything :( |
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16:09.12 | sredna | azazello: Here it selects the entry, so I can launch it by pressing ret |
16:09.30 | StevenR | titou: search for session, ans similar terms, dont serach using case sensitiveness |
16:10.23 | azazello | sredna: yeah, but is there any way to launch it by pressing that single letter if it's unambiguous? |
16:10.38 | sredna | azazello: Not that I know of |
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16:16.21 | bogard | hiyo: got the following output whenever i try to run a kde-app (or kde itself): kio (KSycoca): WARNING: Found version 72, expecting version 79 or higher..... surfing the web i found hints to empty /tmp. also i deleted ~/.kde*. but in the end i am stuck with this error. anybody got a hint or maybe some faq-entry ? |
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16:17.37 | azazello | can I add standby/hibernate buttons to the kde shutdown dialog? |
16:17.43 | azazello | they're not there by default |
16:18.00 | azazello | also is there a way to change the picture it shows? :) |
16:18.22 | PhilRod | bogard: do your KDE apps run correctly? |
16:19.06 | bogard | PhilRod: nope, every application gives this error, so all file-based operation such as open-dialogues aren't working |
16:19.28 | bogard | PhilRod: cept for these errors apps like smb4k run fine |
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16:20.52 | StevenR | azazello: what buttons do you get currently? |
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16:21.09 | PhilRod | in general, warnings should be harmless. That one means that your SYstem COnfiguration CAche (sycoca) is an older version |
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16:21.15 | PhilRod | let me find out where it lives |
16:21.40 | bogard | mh, got an error also: kbuildsycoca: ERROR creating database '/var/tmp/kdecache-bogard/ksycoca'! |
16:22.10 | bogard | resulting in e.g. "unknown protocol: file" when trying to open files |
16:23.17 | bogard | ouh, just seeing it now, maybe i should reset /var/tmp also ? |
16:23.27 | PhilRod | worth a try |
16:23.31 | PhilRod | then restart KDE |
16:24.18 | Flendor | Hello Phil :) How are you? |
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16:25.53 | PhilRod | heya Flendor :-) |
16:26.13 | StevenR | how do i enable icon zooming in kde 3.4 for kicker? |
16:26.23 | PhilRod | not so bad - I need to be working harder for exams, but I can't motivate myself :-) |
16:26.31 | Flendor | Heh, I have the same problem.. |
16:26.36 | PhilRod | StevenR: if you mean the old "icons get bigger" thing, you can't |
16:26.54 | Flendor | ..promise yourself that you will go to a bar and get some nice drinks if you pass all of them ;) |
16:27.00 | StevenR | PhilRod: i c....grrrrr......thanks |
16:27.08 | bogard | PhilRod: yeah, that's it |
16:27.15 | PhilRod | Flendor: they're too far off - not for seven weeks yet |
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16:27.59 | bogard | :) |
16:27.59 | Flendor | Oh. Don't study then ;) |
16:27.59 | PhilRod | oh, actually 6 weeks |
16:27.59 | StevenR | can i make kicker have several rows of icons? |
16:28.12 | PhilRod | use the quick launcher applet |
16:28.14 | StevenR | PhilRod: i have exam tomoro! eeek! |
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16:28.33 | StevenR | PhilRod: doez the quick launcher do big icons? |
16:28.36 | StevenR | *does |
16:29.06 | PhilRod | dunno, never used it |
16:31.54 | azazello | StevenR: End Session, Turn Off, Restart, Cancel |
16:32.20 | StevenR | azazello: i dont think you can change it....maybe try the kdm settings |
16:32.21 | azazello | suspend and hibernate are functioning, just not in the dialog |
16:32.22 | Flendor | I'm gone..Gotta play some :) |
16:32.44 | azazello | StevenR - do you know where its .rc is? |
16:32.59 | StevenR | azazello: use the kdm dialog in kcontrol |
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16:34.02 | azazello | StevenR: I'm sorry, which section is that in? |
16:34.29 | azazello | I could change the Login Manager shutdown/reboot commands, but that's kind of a hack - then I don't get shutdown/reboot buttons :) |
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16:37.10 | StevenR | azazello: i dotn think u can then |
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16:42.12 | PhilRod | decisions, decisions: an hour or so of work, or start cleaning up the ktips database |
16:42.28 | PhilRod | to vote now, press the RED button on your remote... |
16:42.29 | PhilRod | :-/ |
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16:42.59 | _Xavi_ | HiFi_dk, is there any easy way of removing gnome apps from the KDE menu? |
16:43.09 | _Xavi_ | hi* |
16:43.14 | PhilRod | menu editor |
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16:43.31 | _Xavi_ | is there an *easier* way than that? |
16:44.11 | PhilRod | or you could search around for the XML file that defines the GNOME apps, and remove that from XDG_(CONFIG|DATA)_DIRS (can't remember which), but I don't think that's much easier |
16:44.29 | _Xavi_ | hmm ok, thx |
16:44.44 | PhilRod | someone else might have an idea |
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16:51.45 | mikeo | how do i install skins? |
16:52.10 | mikeo | http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=20798 want to install that one |
16:53.03 | PhilRod | what distro are you running? |
16:53.06 | mikeo | debian |
16:53.09 | PhilRod | it might have a package |
16:54.16 | mikeo | dont see a package, is there a way to install ebuilds? |
16:55.16 | PhilRod | hrm, I can't see a normal source package there. Weird |
16:55.26 | PhilRod | let's see if the "ebuild" has the normal source tree |
16:56.57 | PhilRod | you'll have to compile it. Are you familiar with compiling KDE apps? |
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16:58.30 | mikeo | just ./configure and make and make install right? |
16:58.38 | PhilRod | if you're lucky, yes |
16:58.43 | mikeo | and then to remove it go to the source tree and make uninstall |
16:58.51 | PhilRod | have you compiled a KDE app from source before? |
16:58.52 | mikeo | and apt-get all the dependencies |
16:59.08 | mikeo | i have compiled an app from source |
16:59.13 | mikeo | dont know about a kde app |
16:59.14 | PhilRod | was it a KDE app? |
16:59.18 | PhilRod | oh, ok |
16:59.29 | PhilRod | well, try it anyway :-) |
16:59.32 | PhilRod | http://www.kde-look.org/content/files/20798-tiblit-1.2.tar.bz2 |
16:59.56 | PhilRod | that's the source package. Untar it, read any docs, and compile :-) |
17:00.06 | PhilRod | if you have trouble, take a look at this link: |
17:00.07 | PhilRod | ~buildtr |
17:00.09 | apt | well, buildtr is http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Build+Troubleshooting |
17:00.33 | mikeo | checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths! |
17:01.57 | mikeo | whatever ill just stick with the current skin |
17:03.22 | rob_lt | mikeo, I'll try building it here... I think you need x-window-system-dev |
17:03.28 | mikeo | ok |
17:05.04 | mikeo | hmmm only 40mb of archives |
17:05.05 | mikeo | lol |
17:05.53 | PhilRod | 40MB for some includes?! |
17:05.57 | mikeo | yea |
17:06.00 | mikeo | needs a lot of packages |
17:06.05 | mikeo | ill have it all in 30s tho |
17:06.08 | mikeo | fast connection |
17:06.12 | PhilRod | is it pulling in some crazy dependencies? |
17:06.21 | mikeo | lots of lib files |
17:06.36 | mikeo | not removing anythign tho so i dont care about adding stuff |
17:06.44 | mikeo | i have the space and it just finished downloading |
17:07.30 | mikeo | hmmm now it needs Qt |
17:08.15 | PhilRod | do you already have KDE installed? |
17:08.20 | mikeo | yea |
17:08.33 | PhilRod | ok, so just the Qt includes then :-) |
17:08.51 | PhilRod | anyone have a (fairly) clean 3.4 install who can test something for me quickly? |
17:09.12 | PhilRod | in fact, any 3.4 install will probably do |
17:09.15 | rob_lt | mikeo, you will have to keep installing the -dev packages until you have everything that this package depends on. I've got most of the dev stuff installed, since I build from source all the time. |
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17:09.37 | StevenR | PhilRod: i have 3.4 |
17:09.47 | rob_lt | mikeo, what distro are you using? |
17:09.55 | PhilRod | StevenR: does help:/userguide work in konq? |
17:09.57 | mikeo | debian |
17:10.02 | mikeo | sarge |
17:10.02 | PhilRod | or help:/khelpcenter/userguide |
17:10.48 | StevenR | PhilRod: help:/khelpcenter/userguide works |
17:11.04 | StevenR | help:/userguide The requested help file could not be found. Check that you have installed the documentation. |
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17:12.00 | innovati | hé |
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17:12.52 | innovati | anybody home? |
17:13.58 | PhilRod | StevenR: OK, thanks |
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17:15.39 | Julianyus | hi |
17:15.52 | innovati | I have a question for anybody who can program and know KDE |
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17:17.28 | innovati | if in OS X, you can run windowless HTML pages with CSS and functionality through JS, PERL, Python and web languages, called Dashboard |
17:17.44 | innovati | it explains about them here: http://developer.apple.com/macosx/tiger/dashboard.html |
17:18.04 | PhilRod | innovati: if no-one here knows the answer to your question, try #kde-devel |
17:18.20 | innovati | could this not also be done in KDE? I mean the KHTML engine and JS are all there already... maybe even a compatibilty layer for OS X's widgets could easily be written too |
17:18.25 | PhilRod | although it sounds like you want to play around with the kdebindings module and dcop |
17:18.28 | innovati | PhilRod: thanks |
17:18.47 | innovati | Honestly I don't code, but I would love to help with the art of a project like this |
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17:19.15 | innovati | should be too hard to hack though....it doesn't sound like a tough hack |
17:20.31 | innovati | should I just take it to kde-devel then? |
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17:21.35 | elvstone | hm, can i make KDE stop showing the file suffixes for files on the Desktop somehow? |
17:22.18 | PhilRod | innovati: if you just want a HTML page displayed without anything surrounding it, twiddle konqueror for a bit. You can probably achieve it |
17:23.14 | innovati | I'm thinking so, can KDE not display a web-page as a desktop background? |
17:24.43 | PhilRod | innovati: http://users.ox.ac.uk/~chri1802/stuff/konq-superlite.png |
17:24.58 | innovati | over at kde.devel they are prett hostile |
17:25.33 | PhilRod | you might be able to: there's a setting "use a program to draw the background image" or some such |
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17:25.52 | _Heathen_ | yeah, just hit modify on the two that are in there by default to see how to set it up with another web page |
17:26.10 | _Heathen_ | right click, configure desktop, advanced options |
17:26.20 | _Heathen_ | click use the following program for drawing the background |
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17:28.34 | PhilRod | _Heathen_: did you sort out your problem? |
17:29.22 | _Heathen_ | With the crappy desktop, yes thanks :) |
17:29.29 | _Heathen_ | I fiddled with xorg.conf |
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17:29.42 | _Heathen_ | added DefaultDepth 24 |
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17:30.00 | _Heathen_ | Now I'm having other issues, no kde related, darn Gentoo :P |
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17:35.20 | mikeo | it works :D |
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18:05.06 | |31770| | anyone know how i can change the colour of the tool tips forground text? |
18:05.41 | |31770| | I'm using a dark background and it has made tool tips light grey on white which is horrid |
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18:47.43 | StevenR | how do i change the tooltip background colour? there doesn't seem to be an option for it |
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18:48.37 | aseigo_ | StevenR: yes, you can't. |
18:50.43 | StevenR | aseigo_: why not? thers an option to change everythingelse....is it hardcoded somewhere then? |
18:53.25 | aseigo_ | StevenR: qt |
18:53.57 | StevenR | aseigo_: ahhh i c...is that going to change with qt4? |
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18:56.57 | StevenR | aseigo_: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=45806 do you know where i could set a named palette? |
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19:08.32 | aseigo_ | StevenR: qtrc iirc |
19:08.48 | StevenR | aseigo_: ok, thanks will check there :) |
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19:27.26 | kendwork | my wife wrote this! http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS4499401174.html |
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19:29.15 | Thorsten | kendwork: really ? I mean, a wife out of flesh and bones ? |
19:29.30 | kendwork | hehe |
19:29.40 | kendwork | she's an editorial assistant for desktoplinux.com now |
19:29.48 | Thorsten | cool. |
19:29.54 | kendwork | she's not a total linux nerd, more of a fuzzy brain person, but the job seems to suit her :) |
19:30.35 | Thorsten | My wife now can send e-mails without assistance, the advantage is she does not know enough to ask for things like Excel... |
19:30.51 | kendwork | heheh |
19:30.58 | kendwork | my wife refuses to have icons on her kde desktop :) |
19:31.05 | kendwork | she much prefers CLI... god, what a nerd :) |
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19:31.30 | Thorsten | CLI ? |
19:31.37 | Thorsten | command line interface ? |
19:31.52 | MrPingouin | clitoris |
19:31.59 | kendwork | d'oh |
19:32.02 | MrPingouin | sorry. |
19:32.22 | kendwork | anyway |
19:32.24 | kendwork | thorsten, yeah |
19:32.32 | kendwork | she's a pine-using, shell user |
19:32.39 | Tm_T | pine <3 |
19:32.43 | kendwork | though she's definitely novice at it all... but she prefers it over lots of buttons and icons :) |
19:32.54 | kendwork | i finally got her using Konversation instead of IRC II :) |
19:33.01 | Tm_T | kendwork: me too prefer shell over almost all |
19:33.10 | Tm_T | kendwork: noooooo! |
19:33.29 | kendwork | hehe |
19:33.42 | kendwork | she didn't use /window, so she'd only be able to be in 1 chan at a time :^P |
19:33.51 | Tm_T | haha |
19:34.06 | kendwork | heh |
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19:34.25 | kendwork | but at home, it's Konvs all the way |
19:34.27 | kendwork | right kendrick? |
19:34.32 | MrPingouin | irssi + screen + ssh == 8th wonder |
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19:34.34 | kendwork | err.. kendhome? where am i? |
19:34.46 | kendwork | ahh, there ia m :) |
19:34.55 | Tm_T | MrPingouin: ! YES! |
19:35.10 | Tm_T | only 3 irssi atm ;p |
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19:44.10 | novrain | hi |
19:44.23 | novrain | I've got problem with vertical refreshing on kde 3.3.2 |
19:44.55 | novrain | my monitor can do 100Hz at 800x600 |
19:45.07 | novrain | but in kde I've got only 85Hz |
19:45.25 | emeteo | novrain: kde has not anything to do with this |
19:45.28 | novrain | what can I do? |
19:45.47 | kendwork | reconfigure X-Window |
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19:46.08 | kendwork | it's in control of those sorts of things, and KDE just provides a method for switching between the modes X makes available |
19:46.09 | novrain | x11 is well configured |
19:46.12 | kendwork | if i understand it correctly ;) |
19:46.26 | kendwork | so can X11 do 800x600 @ 100Hz? |
19:46.35 | kendwork | if not, you need to reconfigure it ;) |
19:46.37 | emeteo | novrain: you can change with krandr, but I think, if your monitor is not old, you can delete all modelines and frecuencies from your XF86Config-4, |
19:46.42 | novrain | in xorg.conf I have got vertical refeshing 50-130Hz |
19:46.43 | kendwork | if so, then yes, perhaps there's a bug in KRandR |
19:46.54 | emeteo | dcc see to of this. |
19:47.23 | kendwork | novrain, but do you have any modelines that say 800x600 @ 100Hz? ;) |
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19:47.36 | kendwork | hrm, that brings up a question: is there a KDE GUI for configuring X? |
19:47.51 | Tronic | novrain: If you know the specifications (sync ranges) of that monitor, you'll probably want to try http://delenn.tky.hut.fi/amlc/ |
19:47.54 | novrain | kdendwork: no |
19:48.09 | kendwork | hrm, there should be :) |
19:48.14 | Tronic | novrain: That program will get you the optimal refresh rates for every mode. |
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19:48.16 | kendwork | i'm sure some fancy distro somewhere has something |
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19:48.53 | novrain | I work on Slackware |
19:49.03 | novrain | i old kde - 3.1.4 |
19:49.23 | novrain | there was KXF86Config |
19:49.28 | novrain | or something like that |
19:49.49 | novrain | but now slackware doesn't support xfre86 |
19:50.00 | novrain | but xorg |
19:50.04 | aseigo_ | it's in the control center... under Peripherals (or hardware), Display ... should still work (hopefully =) |
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19:50.16 | aseigo_ | x.org and xfree's configs are quite close ... |
19:51.28 | novrain | aseigo: the problem is that I haven't 100hz refreshing in Setting/Display |
19:52.04 | kendwork | oh man - this is funny |
19:52.09 | kendwork | http://darthside.blogspot.com/ |
19:52.19 | novrain | what's that? |
19:52.31 | kendwork | Darth Vader's Blog :) |
19:52.39 | novrain | :) |
19:52.59 | kendwork | "I must say that the stormtroopers' new heavy weather gear makes them look very cool. Hats off to Palpatine. (Most people don't know this but His Excellency designs all of our outerwear personally; he has a real flair for geometry, and a great sense of line.)" |
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19:55.24 | StevenR | aseigo: the configs are the same...apart from the name of the files and programs |
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19:55.52 | ayche | konqueror continues to ask me what application to use to open .php files, how do i get it to save to the disk? |
19:55.57 | StevenR | aseigo: xfree86config --> xorgconfig, etc |
19:57.46 | scrooge | XF86Config |
19:57.58 | annma | ayche: go in kControl -> KDE Components -> File asociations |
19:58.07 | scrooge | hi! :) |
19:58.09 | scrooge | kbye |
19:58.12 | scrooge | ut |
19:58.20 | annma | type php in te search field and set the settings you want for php mime types |
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20:00.26 | [_]illogic-al | kendwork: awesome sight. check out the comments even more hilarious! http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=12046884&postID=111306729029095092 |
20:00.34 | [_]illogic-al | "P.S. Remember when you dog died? That was me." |
20:01.01 | ayche | i have the box checked for ask to save to disk |
20:01.41 | kendwork | hah |
20:01.48 | ayche | but still it never asks me |
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20:05.14 | annma | ayche: maybe it's a bug then |
20:05.36 | annma | not sure, I am not very confortable around mime types to be frank |
20:05.58 | annma | each time I try something I mess it up |
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20:08.50 | ayche | annma:ok, thanks |
20:09.00 | kbrooks | does kde have a OSK app? |
20:09.40 | kbrooks | on-screen keyboard |
20:09.57 | annma | there is one but not in kde official |
20:10.07 | kbrooks | cuz i need it |
20:10.12 | annma | hmm, what do you mean exactly? |
20:10.31 | annma | you have the keyboard on screen and when you type letters it acts as your keyboard? |
20:10.42 | kbrooks | yes |
20:10.47 | scrooge | like for tablets? |
20:12.05 | kbrooks | no, widows has this, but i want it for linux too |
20:12.16 | kendwork | dunno if they were KDE |
20:12.21 | kbrooks | windows* |
20:12.28 | kendwork | i had used some X-based one and handwriting in the past, for my wife to play with with her Wacom tablet |
20:12.35 | annma | kbrooks: what is it called fro windows? |
20:12.42 | scrooge | osk |
20:12.43 | scrooge | lol |
20:12.46 | annma | kbrooks: shipped with windows? |
20:12.50 | kbrooks | annma, yes |
20:12.53 | scrooge | microsoft's on-screen keyboard |
20:13.02 | annma | where can I find it? |
20:13.06 | scrooge | Accessories |
20:13.20 | scrooge | Accessibility |
20:13.25 | scrooge | On-Screen Keyboard |
20:13.41 | kbrooks | hmmm, brb |
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20:13.43 | kendwork | http://freshmeat.net/projects/xvkbd/ |
20:14.00 | annma | ah, cool, saw it |
20:14.41 | kendwork | so kde needs something like that :) |
20:14.50 | scrooge | yep |
20:14.52 | scrooge | osK haha |
20:15.52 | annma | kde needs someone to implement it you mean |
20:16.02 | kendwork | ;) |
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20:16.25 | annma | I know there is one in progress |
20:16.30 | scrooge | cool |
20:16.34 | kendwork | annma - cool, where? |
20:16.37 | scrooge | is it secret? |
20:16.40 | kendwork | will it be part of the Accessibility project? |
20:16.43 | scrooge | like they might smite u if u talk? |
20:17.17 | annma | I have no idea how it is called, I cannot remember |
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20:17.26 | scrooge | is it in cvs? |
20:17.31 | annma | kendwork: ask in the kde-accessibility mailing list |
20:17.40 | kendwork | annma - hrm, another list, eh? ;) |
20:17.45 | annma | scrooge: I don't remember at all |
20:17.50 | scrooge | lol k |
20:17.53 | annma | kendwork: yes, of course, I have tons |
20:18.02 | annma | it is not in official I said |
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20:18.32 | annma | so if it's in kde cvs it is in kdenonbeta or a playground |
20:18.32 | kendwork | hehe;) |
20:18.32 | nbl | can anyone tell me the hotkeys to change resolution |
20:18.39 | kendwork | nbl Ctrl Alt Keypad-Plus/-Minus |
20:18.41 | kendwork | typically... |
20:18.44 | annma | nbl: look in kcontrol |
20:18.55 | annma | depends on your settings |
20:19.06 | nbl | ahh didn't work on laptop that explains it |
20:19.11 | sredna | Hi annma :) |
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20:19.36 | annma | hi sredna :) |
20:20.01 | annma | all I remeber about this keyboard is that I tried it once |
20:20.06 | sredna | How are you doing over there? |
20:20.13 | annma | we're good |
20:20.28 | annma | channel is looking for a on screen keyboard application |
20:20.36 | annma | a KDE one |
20:20.55 | sredna | There is one I think in the accessibility module |
20:21.03 | annma | oh |
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20:24.07 | annma | it's called viki |
20:24.14 | annma | and it's in a kde-review module |
20:24.20 | sredna | Right |
20:24.26 | sredna | I remember reading about it somewhere |
20:25.25 | annma | http://webcvs.kde.org/kdereview/viki/ |
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20:27.32 | annma | seems t be distributed in Suse |
20:27.52 | MrGrim | wonder if the i, robot reference is intentional.. |
20:28.07 | kendwork | annma - awesome :) |
20:28.11 | annma | viki 0.0: viki is an accessibility tool for entering text using the mouse cursor into other applications. |
20:29.06 | annma | http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-accessibility&m=110589833129056&w=2 |
20:29.17 | annma | kendwork: send a mail to the guy maybe |
20:30.02 | kendwork | shaheed, you mean? |
20:30.09 | kendwork | i'll send a 'cool, keep up the good work' note ;^) |
20:31.14 | kendwork | done :) |
20:31.43 | annma | :) cool, nice, that makes the difference on the developer state of mind |
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20:39.10 | annma | kendwork: compiling viki now |
20:39.30 | annma | on the tiny space left on my hard disk |
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20:45.27 | annma | kendwork: it's quite good |
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20:46.44 | annma | kendwork: want a screenshot? |
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20:51.49 | kbrooks | i have a question: how can i get xvkbd to startup when kde starts up? |
20:52.42 | annma | there is a startup folder or soething |
20:53.49 | kbrooks | can i find this in the faq? |
20:53.51 | kendwork | annma - sure! :) |
20:53.59 | kendwork | (re: sshot) |
20:54.50 | annma | http://img99.echo.cx/my.php?image=viki14so.png |
20:54.53 | annma | scrrensho |
20:54.55 | annma | t |
20:55.22 | annma | kbrooks: in your .kde there is an AUtostart folder |
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20:56.58 | kbrooks | annma, and what sHould be there? |
20:57.14 | annma | kbrooks: no idea at the moment for non kde apps.... |
20:57.20 | annma | I'm looking in the FAQ |
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20:58.07 | annma | in fact logging out of KDE with the app opened will open it ext time |
20:58.30 | kbrooks | no |
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20:58.45 | annma | that works with kde apps |
20:58.50 | kbrooks | I disabled it |
20:58.56 | annma | try dragging the prog into Autostart |
20:59.15 | kbrooks | .....? |
20:59.16 | annma | and choose symlink if there is a question |
20:59.23 | annma | where is the exe? |
20:59.35 | annma | of xvkdb |
20:59.50 | annma | type: which xvkbd |
20:59.51 | kbrooks | heh |
21:00.11 | annma | open the dir and drag & drop it into Autostart |
21:01.51 | annma | ok, gotta go |
21:01.59 | annma | good luk with that! |
21:02.17 | kbrooks | ok, i did that |
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21:06.57 | dangerpussy | ok so ive downloaded a bunch of kde themes that are supposedly for 3.x but every time i go to the theme manager and browse to the directory, they dont show |
21:07.04 | dangerpussy | how the fook do i install a .ktheme file |
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21:17.32 | kendwork | annma - thx :) |
21:19.09 | rob_lt | dangerpussy, can you give me a link to one of the themes you installed? |
21:20.29 | rob_lt | s/installed/downloaded |
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21:20.55 | dangerpussy | lemme grab one |
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21:21.20 | dangerpussy | http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=22913 |
21:21.29 | rob_lt | let me give it a quick try |
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21:22.21 | rob_lt | what distro are you using? |
21:22.27 | dangerpussy | suse 9.3 |
21:22.38 | dangerpussy | in fedora core it does the same thing tho |
21:23.10 | rob_lt | so you do a ./configure && make, and then as root make install? |
21:23.41 | dangerpussy | yes |
21:23.47 | dangerpussy | and it doesnt show under the kde control |
21:23.55 | rob_lt | try ./configure --prefix=/usr |
21:24.34 | rob_lt | dangerpussy, I would also use checkinstall to make an rpm so it is easy to remove it |
21:24.41 | kbrooks_kopete | su -c 'make install' |
21:24.47 | kbrooks_kopete | :) |
21:24.49 | dangerpussy | i know all this |
21:24.50 | dangerpussy | but |
21:24.53 | rob_lt | ok |
21:24.57 | dangerpussy | it still doesnt show a theme |
21:25.16 | kbrooks_kopete | install it |
21:25.29 | kbrooks_kopete | did you? |
21:25.33 | rob_lt | did you try the ./configure --prefix=/usr |
21:25.34 | rob_lt | ? |
21:25.38 | dangerpussy | yup |
21:25.40 | dangerpussy | still not there |
21:25.47 | kbrooks_kopete | make |
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21:26.09 | dangerpussy | my hope was that id be able to do this all thru a GUI so I could maybe switch some systems to linux for my parents |
21:26.17 | dangerpussy | but if its this time consuming just to install a theme... |
21:26.20 | kbrooks_kopete | run that |
21:26.22 | dangerpussy | i did |
21:26.40 | dangerpussy | i did ./configure --prefix=/user ... then make ... su, then make install |
21:26.44 | dangerpussy | now what |
21:26.50 | dangerpussy | shouldnt it show up in the KDE THEME MANAGER |
21:26.53 | dangerpussy | since its a theme and all |
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21:27.24 | kbrooks_kopete | restart kcontrol |
21:28.23 | rob_lt | dangerpussy, go to the control center, appearance and themes, style |
21:30.10 | rob_lt | doesn't appear there? |
21:31.28 | sarah03 | njaard: Nothing like the books, which were nothing like the movies, which were nothing like the radio shows? |
21:31.29 | sarah03 | Ack. |
21:31.39 | rob_lt | :) |
21:31.55 | sarah03 | [I don't think I need to explain what I'm talking about. :)] |
21:32.07 | dangerpussy | rob_lt, no it does not |
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21:36.08 | rob_lt | dangerpussy, can you do a "locate plastik.so" and paste the (hopefully) two lines back here.... to see where your plastik files are located. |
21:37.04 | rob_lt | sarah03, from ArchLinux? |
21:37.38 | Tm_T | sarah03: =) |
21:39.17 | sarah03 | rob_lt: 42 |
21:39.37 | sarah03 | [In reference to a certain 5-book trilogy.] |
21:42.44 | MrGrim | http://www.francesco.biz/papa.jpg |
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21:45.13 | rob_lt | dangerpussy, do you want any more help? |
21:57.20 | kbrooks_kopete | brb |
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22:05.25 | thechitowncubs | Hey |
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22:06.38 | thechitowncubs | What pacakage is required to change fonts |
22:06.55 | chavo | thechitowncubs, kcontrol |
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22:07.56 | thechitowncubs | I'm using gnome as my default, but i like amarok, but the fonts are hideous... and when i apt-get kcontrol... it doesn't come with any configs, nothing show up on the menu |
22:08.34 | chavo | thechitowncubs, not sure, I use KDE. |
22:08.44 | r_bender | anybody have time for a kmail question? |
22:09.32 | thechitowncubs | chavo: what distro? |
22:09.36 | aseigo_ | r_bender: probably |
22:09.49 | chavo | thechitowncubs, kubuntu, but I build KDE myself. |
22:09.59 | thechitowncubs | im using ubuntu =D |
22:10.02 | chavo | I don't use the packages. |
22:10.05 | chavo | cool. |
22:10.45 | chavo | But it looks like the kcontrol package should do it. Did you run kcontrol? |
22:10.48 | aseigo_ | r_bender: what are you out going server settings? particularly the security related ones? |
22:10.52 | thechitowncubs | yep |
22:10.54 | thechitowncubs | i tried it |
22:10.59 | thechitowncubs | no go |
22:12.46 | thechitowncubs | im installing kde-core to see if that helps |
22:13.50 | thechitowncubs | yep, it worked |
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22:14.54 | thechitowncubs | much much better |
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22:23.52 | name773 | how do i turn off spell checking in konqueror (and everywhere else, but mostly konqueror) |
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22:48.17 | Roey | hi all |
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22:49.43 | shibby | stfu freak. |
22:50.05 | Roey | shibby: foo |
22:50.08 | Roey | hey all |
22:50.14 | shibby | :D |
22:50.32 | Roey | ok |
22:50.37 | Roey | open control center from the K menu |
22:50.51 | Roey | or actually |
22:50.51 | Roey | wait |
22:51.04 | Roey | just do right-click on the country flags |
22:51.16 | shibby | ...... |
22:51.20 | Roey | then do Configure... |
22:51.25 | Roey | then go to Switching Options |
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22:51.33 | Roey | Xkb options rather |
22:51.45 | Roey | shibby: [x] Group Shift/Lock behavior |
22:51.51 | shibby | god bless you |
22:51.59 | Roey | <PROTECTED> |
22:52.05 | Roey | [x] use keyboard LED to show alternative group |
22:52.07 | shibby | nah, alt shift |
22:52.25 | Roey | (*) Make CapsLock an additional Control |
22:52.30 | Roey | (screw CapsLock) |
22:52.40 | Roey | then do OK |
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22:52.50 | shibby | doesnt work |
22:52.51 | shibby | ugh |
22:53.26 | Roey | ??? |
22:53.32 | Roey | just do both shift at once first |
22:53.34 | Roey | something simple |
22:53.38 | Tm_T | hm |
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22:54.07 | Roey | óòè |
22:54.12 | Roey | cool. |
22:54.13 | shibby | i chose alt+shift |
22:54.18 | Roey | how do you compose an umlaut??? |
22:54.21 | Roey | shibby: ok |
22:54.23 | shibby | hah no hebrew here :|| |
22:54.25 | shibby | weird |
22:54.29 | shibby | before you typed something and i saw it |
22:54.38 | canllaith | Roey: using dead keys? |
22:54.41 | Roey | make sure you checked group shift/lock behavior |
22:54.46 | Roey | canllaith: using the Compose key? |
22:54.49 | Roey | canllaith: btw, hi Jes |
22:54.53 | canllaith | Ah, I have not one of those :) |
22:54.56 | canllaith | Heya Roey |
22:55.05 | Roey | canllaith: I just use right-alt |
22:55.25 | canllaith | Roey: I have no alt ;) |
22:55.28 | Roey | ! |
22:55.43 | Roey | there is no alternative to Jes after all |
22:55.44 | Roey | oh |
22:55.46 | Roey | oh you're serious |
22:55.47 | Roey | no alt |
22:55.48 | Roey | hmm |
22:55.54 | Roey | wokay then |
22:56.05 | canllaith | I have only two wireless cards and three notebooks atm. So if I'm setting up the IBM, I only have the mac to use to IRC on downstairs =p |
22:56.25 | canllaith | The IBM & the Dell share a wifi card for the moment. The mac has it's own. |
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23:02.56 | Roey | hi |
23:03.10 | Roey | my friend is having trouble getting the keyboard layout switching to work |
23:03.18 | Roey | and I have to get going (home) |
23:03.25 | shibby | asshole. |
23:03.33 | Roey | מה!!!1 |
23:03.38 | Roey | I'll be back yo |
23:03.47 | shibby | stop talking like a negro, yo. |
23:04.20 | scrooge | wtf |
23:04.41 | scrooge | wats wrong with talking like a negro... |
23:04.42 | scrooge | u racist? |
23:04.50 | shibby | im a self hating jew :) |
23:04.50 | Alethes | how do you know he's not black? |
23:04.51 | Alethes | heh |
23:04.57 | shibby | cause he's a jew/. |
23:05.00 | shibby | and israeli :| |
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23:05.10 | shibby | nifty! |
23:05.11 | Alethes | shibby: :D |
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23:07.29 | canllaith | hrm how strange. This thinkpad is sitting here at 'Starting GPM' and refusing to finish booting |
23:07.50 | scrooge | aint no timeouts for gpm? |
23:07.52 | straw | yeah, that'll work |
23:07.53 | scrooge | :S |
23:08.35 | canllaith | Yeah, it's just taking a veerrrrrry looooooong time |
23:08.41 | scrooge | oh |
23:08.53 | scrooge | parallel init scripts? :P |
23:09.04 | canllaith | hm ? |
23:09.16 | scrooge | never tried runing inits in paralellel? |
23:09.20 | scrooge | erhm, -el |
23:09.25 | canllaith | Slackware? :) |
23:09.39 | canllaith | It just runs them one after the other. |
23:09.56 | scrooge | oh. maybe thats a slack 11 feature |
23:10.05 | canllaith | slack 11? |
23:10.14 | scrooge | yea |
23:10.18 | scrooge | slackware 11 |
23:10.22 | canllaith | Slack 11 isn't out yet. |
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23:10.34 | scrooge | hence it being a slackware 11 feature |
23:10.36 | scrooge | ;) |
23:10.38 | canllaith | :P |
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23:11.15 | scrooge | :O |
23:11.18 | scrooge | the snake himself |
23:11.26 | canllaith | oooooooooooh I know why this is taking so long to cough up a login prompt, I bet. |
23:11.41 | canllaith | eth0 isn't plugged in, and dhcpcd timeout is bloody annoyingly long. |
23:11.48 | scrooge | heh :S |
23:12.02 | python | whare are the password files in linux |
23:12.04 | python | ? |
23:12.09 | scrooge | /etc/shadow? |
23:12.21 | python | thanks |
23:12.46 | scrooge | problems? |
23:12.49 | scrooge | forgot root passwd? |
23:12.59 | python | no i am in a linux class |
23:13.10 | python | and we have to answer a bunch of ? |
23:13.11 | scrooge | cheater!! lol |
23:13.14 | scrooge | :P |
23:13.16 | python | :) |
23:13.18 | canllaith | Don't cheat in here...... |
23:13.24 | python | no just using my resorces |
23:13.32 | python | we are a loud to use the internet |
23:13.40 | python | this is just the internet |
23:13.47 | python | its bending the rules |
23:13.52 | python | not braking them |
23:13.52 | canllaith | I don't think unix system consultants & unix developers are a fair resource |
23:13.54 | python | :) |
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23:14.47 | straw | heh |
23:14.53 | Alethes | the password file is stored in /tmp |
23:15.00 | Alethes | :) |
23:15.00 | canllaith | hahaa |
23:15.04 | scrooge | lmao |
23:15.07 | straw | it's in me arse! |
23:15.12 | canllaith | you'll see the answer if you cat /boot/vmlinuz > /dev/dsp |
23:15.19 | scrooge | yes |
23:15.23 | scrooge | linus will tell j00 himself |
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23:16.07 | canllaith | Hrm. Suspend and resume completely refusing to work as it used to under 2.6.11.7 |
23:16.22 | scrooge | .8 is out!? |
23:16.25 | Alethes | freebsd |
23:16.32 | canllaith | Alethes: hush you. |
23:16.35 | scrooge | lol |
23:16.36 | Alethes | :D |
23:16.38 | canllaith | :P |
23:16.52 | Alethes | haha |
23:17.03 | Alethes | I'm +troll without your intervention, baby :P |
23:17.18 | canllaith | :P |
23:17.19 | scrooge | canllaith, wat r u on now? |
23:17.20 | scrooge | .12? |
23:17.55 | canllaith | 2.6.11.7 |
23:18.02 | scrooge | oh |
23:18.14 | canllaith | 2.6.10 on k7 & hal |
23:18.36 | canllaith | I need a good name for this thinkpad too. Right now he's 'darkstar' but he can't stay that |
23:18.49 | Alethes | notsodarkstar |
23:18.59 | scrooge | liteness |
23:19.14 | canllaith | I already have holly and !holly |
23:19.20 | canllaith | no more computer names starting in 'not' :P |
23:19.26 | scrooge | :P |
23:19.27 | Alethes | hehe |
23:19.57 | Alethes | Auguste Rodin created the statue "The Thinker" |
23:20.04 | canllaith | holly !holly hal queeg k7 labrat guineapig gateway orac kayakserver router |
23:20.05 | Alethes | since it's a thinkpad, name it Rodin or something |
23:20.15 | scrooge | :O |
23:20.20 | canllaith | hrm that's not such a bad idea |
23:20.39 | scrooge | a dime a thought? |
23:20.41 | scrooge | openny! |
23:20.45 | scrooge | a penny for your thoughts |
23:20.47 | scrooge | or sumtin |
23:20.47 | Alethes | it involves giving all the stupid people guns and legalizing duels |
23:20.55 | canllaith | Alethes: amen! |
23:21.21 | canllaith | Now that there's some good preachin. |
23:21.25 | Alethes | hehe |
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23:22.27 | Alethes | canada has a law for everything |
23:22.30 | canllaith | Where I grew up if you burnt yourself on hot coffee you wouldn't sue macdonalds and make them put warning labels on their cups =p you'd get called a dick by all your friends. |
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23:22.54 | scrooge | oh yea |
23:22.58 | scrooge | the us is fucked up |
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23:23.05 | scrooge | everything is a lawsuit |
23:23.16 | scrooge | yall heard about the finger insides wendy's chilli? |
23:23.21 | Alethes | yeah |
23:23.26 | Borg^Queen | Hey people. |
23:23.28 | Alethes | apparently it was a hoax |
23:23.31 | illogic-al | damn right, and i'm gonna sue you right now for talking bad about us. |
23:23.41 | scrooge | lol |
23:23.42 | canllaith | There is no american media in my house so no, I have no dea |
23:23.45 | canllaith | s/dea/idea/ |
23:23.57 | canllaith | (just cause all the 'war on terror' stuff can get a bit nauseating when they want to show pictures) |
23:24.18 | scrooge | yea thats more BS going down |
23:24.23 | scrooge | wtf its like 2005 |
23:24.24 | rob_lt | I'm not defending that litigation, but MDs was making their coffee excessively hot in order to make people take longer to drink it. They had been warned sever times already that their coffee was hot to the point of being hazardous, but they didn't care. It took a woman being burned through her blue jeans to get them to stop. |
23:24.39 | spiderworm | hey all can i use k3b to rip a DVD to divx? |
23:24.49 | illogic-al | _through_ her blue jeans |
23:24.58 | rob_lt | s/that litigation/litigation |
23:25.04 | scrooge | lmao |
23:25.10 | illogic-al | it's gotta be damn hot to leave scars through those. |
23:25.21 | canllaith | lol so don't be a fool - don't drink the damn stuff |
23:25.22 | scrooge | not necessarily i;d imagine |
23:25.29 | scrooge | woman where there jeans tight |
23:25.32 | canllaith | Vote with your wallet and go buy elsewhere |
23:25.38 | scrooge | it probly got held extra tight to the skin |
23:25.38 | scrooge | :S |
23:25.43 | illogic-al | scrooge: it was an old lady. |
23:25.45 | canllaith | scrooge: hey, that's not necessarily true. Not all women do. |
23:25.48 | scrooge | oh |
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23:26.05 | scrooge | canllaith, well, most do here |
23:26.06 | rob_lt | that's a good argument, so when your car spontaneously explodes causing you and your family to be burned alive, we can all just say, "Well just don't drive that car then!" |
23:26.09 | scrooge | a good majority |
23:26.09 | canllaith | illogic-al: The point is though, no-one forced her to buy the coffee. Sure, maccas was doing a dumb thing but they were helping perpetuate the dumb thing by paying tem for it =p |
23:26.20 | canllaith | rob_lt: what does a car have to do with coffee sorry? |
23:26.24 | illogic-al | canllaith: or sue, win millions of dollars and make MD change |
23:26.28 | rob_lt | its called an analogy |
23:26.31 | scrooge | lol |
23:26.48 | canllaith | illogic-al: I despise the culture that claims people aren't reponsible for your own actions. If you spill coffee on you, *YOU* spilled the coffee. |
23:27.02 | canllaith | Or will we sue the makers of stoves next, because they can boil water that we might tip on ourselves? |
23:27.13 | canllaith | I think we should sue the people that make heaters, those things seem to get pretty hot. |
23:27.26 | illogic-al | canllaith: imo both were wrong, and the courts deemed MDs more wrong. i have no arguement with that. |
23:27.29 | scrooge | isnt that kinda out of context? |
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23:27.46 | rob_lt | you expect to be severly burned when you spill boiling water from the stove on you. |
23:27.47 | Alethes | I saw a commercial today for an ambulance chasing lawyer where this lady says that a doctor misdiagnosed her with breast cancer and this lawyer got her the compensation she "deserved" |
23:27.57 | canllaith | illogic-al: Yes, I agree that both were wrong - but saying it's not your fault you burnt yourself because it was hot is a bit silly :P |
23:28.01 | Alethes | I'm just wondering if she would have prefered that he was RIGHT |
23:28.05 | punkcut | whats a kde program that will allow me to find/replace with escape characters and special characters? |
23:28.17 | canllaith | There is kregexp editor |
23:28.19 | rob_lt | sed |
23:28.21 | Alethes | ksed heh |
23:28.30 | Alethes | I'm kidding, of course |
23:28.39 | canllaith | god that would be hideous, imagine a gui interface to sed and awk |
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23:28.48 | punkcut | seds a bit much for me I would prefer not to have to learn it just to replace \r with commas |
23:28.49 | Alethes | hehe |
23:29.13 | illogic-al | canllaith: the arguement wasn't about the old lady being wrong, it was about a practice MDs had in place to make them more _money_, at the potential detriment of customers. |
23:29.24 | scrooge | sed -i -e "s#\r#,#" ?? |
23:29.28 | scrooge | something like that i think |
23:29.28 | illogic-al | they paid for it (dearly), and i for one am happy. |
23:29.35 | rob_lt | illogic-al, exactly |
23:29.41 | canllaith | illogic-al: where I come from, if a company does something stupid we just don't buy their product. Works well for us. |
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23:30.07 | canllaith | punkcut: Kate and kwrite can do find and replace using regular expressions, and will call the KDE regexp editor to help you compose them |
23:30.30 | canllaith | (although, I find trying to figure out what all the buttons in the editor does non trivial compared to just writing some perl, but I've never read the manual) |
23:30.32 | punkcut | canllaith: thank you, ive been playing with kate trying to get it to do it for awhile but cannot figure it out, am i missing a plugin or something? |
23:30.39 | canllaith | hrm one moment |
23:30.44 | age_ | k3b all of a sudden can't do on the fly dvds...it isn't getting the data to the burner fast enough... |
23:30.50 | age_ | is there anything i can do? |
23:30.51 | rob_lt | canllaith, that's great in hindsite, but what if you are the one to discover that the hotdogs you buy contain poison, "Well, you should have known that hotdogs aren't good for you... just don't buy them" ::shrug:: |
23:31.01 | canllaith | rob_lt: basically :) |
23:31.03 | illogic-al | canllaith: sueing a greedy company and getting paid, works better for us :-) |
23:31.15 | rob_lt | canllaith, ok, let's just agree to disagree :) |
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23:31.22 | canllaith | I come from a place where there are snakes and spiders in plague proportion - if you don't learn not to touch them pretty quick you die. It's called natural selection. |
23:31.32 | illogic-al | lol |
23:31.42 | illogic-al | I'd sue the australian gov't |
23:31.54 | illogic-al | those things shouldn't be lying around out in public |
23:31.54 | canllaith | I'm so glad I don't live in a country with attitudes like that. |
23:32.03 | illogic-al | lmao |
23:32.13 | canllaith | I mean, what more of a homeless program do you need? |
23:32.18 | canllaith | We don't have a winter to pick them off |
23:32.25 | canllaith | We have to rely on the crocodiles & snakes |
23:32.32 | illogic-al | lo |
23:32.32 | punkcut | and sharks |
23:32.34 | illogic-al | l |
23:32.37 | canllaith | Don't forget the sharks. |
23:32.52 | canllaith | Spiders, too. Those goannas can give you a nasty turn... and koalas are not cute and cuddly let me tell you. |
23:33.03 | canllaith | We have little octopus and jelly fish that can kill you too. |
23:33.15 | illogic-al | for natural selection out here we have the ghetto. |
23:33.23 | canllaith | heh the little octopus flares up with electric blue rings when the get mad |
23:33.39 | canllaith | generations of australian school kids go and poke them gently to make them go pretty blue (and these things can kill you) |
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23:33.50 | punkcut | in america we group all those nasty things under the label minority |
23:33.53 | canllaith | Come to think of it, I think I can see why everyone seems to think Australians are mad crazy bastards |
23:34.04 | illogic-al | lmao @ punkcut |
23:34.17 | illogic-al | canllaith: because you really are? |
23:34.33 | canllaith | illogic-al: I don't count, my mother is from glasgow. I think that makes us all completely mad as hatters by definition |
23:34.52 | punkcut | what the hell is a hatter anyway |
23:35.01 | canllaith | heh |
23:35.04 | canllaith | alice in wonderland |
23:35.11 | punkcut | well yah i know |
23:35.14 | straw | hats were once made using mercury, iirc |
23:35.24 | punkcut | but what the hell is a hatter anyway |
23:35.25 | canllaith | So kate regular expressions |
23:35.33 | illogic-al | hatter's used to use substances in making hats that eventually drove them crazy |
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23:35.35 | canllaith | in my version of Kate, if I tick the regular expression box in the find dialog |
23:35.48 | canllaith | I can click edit and get a drop down box |
23:35.57 | canllaith | That lets me insert bits of regexp..... |
23:35.57 | illogic-al | hence the expression, "mad as a hatter" or Mad hatter |
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23:36.07 | canllaith | Whether that's a 3.4 thing or a cvs thing I'm not sure. |
23:37.29 | illogic-al | SPRING FLING BEGINS NOW! |
23:37.37 | illogic-al | W()()T!! |
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23:39.31 | illogic-al | }:-) |
23:39.41 | canllaith | awwwwwwwwww cute teddy |
23:39.49 | illogic-al | lol |
23:41.05 | illogic-al | http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=12046884&postID=111306729029095092 <- comments on that page are hilarious |
23:44.07 | canllaith | safari doesn't have incremental search :( it's like they took KHTML with the intention of making it suck as much as possible |
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23:47.20 | illogic-al | i think i'm having too much fun at http://darthside.blogspot.com/ |
23:47.27 | illogic-al | is that possible? |
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23:47.36 | illogic-al | should I seek help? |
23:47.45 | canllaith | yes |
23:48.03 | canllaith | take me with you, cause I think this is hysterical |
23:48.40 | illogic-al | :-D |
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