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| 00:23.29 | Arc | does anyone know how to make kopete use enter to send message as default? |
| 00:23.52 | Arc | this is very, very frustrating that I haven't been able to find it in the configs yet (this is on kde 3.2) |
| 00:26.48 | slayerbob | er |
| 00:26.55 | slayerbob | it does use enter by default doesn't it ? |
| 00:27.12 | slayerbob | you sure you don't have one of your keys stuck like ctrl or alt ? |
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| 00:33.18 | sarah03 | Arc: In a Kopete message window, Settings->Configure Shortcuts, "Send Message" is the one you want. |
| 00:33.52 | sarah03 | I'm pretty sure it defaults to "Enter" or "Return", but I could be mistaken and just remembering that I always explicitly set that. |
| 00:34.21 | sarah03 | Ah. "Default key: None". |
| 00:34.23 | thingy | it does default to enter...since I don't explicitly configure kopete |
| 00:34.34 | thingy | to use enter |
| 00:34.47 | sarah03 | I'm in the configure dialog right now. It says the default is nothing. |
| 00:34.52 | thingy | weird |
| 00:35.36 | thingy | are you using cvs? |
| 00:35.42 | thingy | or a release? |
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| 00:37.13 | mousex | hi, there! what's karamba??? |
| 00:37.37 | mousex | or superkaramba . . . |
| 00:37.43 | sarah03 | thingy: Old CVS. |
| 00:38.12 | thingy | mousex: its like gkrellm |
| 00:38.33 | thingy | mousex: a system monitor for cpu/disk/net/mem/swap etc. |
| 00:38.35 | mousex | what, just to display system settings/info? |
| 00:38.41 | thingy | mousex: yes |
| 00:38.52 | mousex | hum. . . then that's not what I'm looking for |
| 00:39.37 | mousex | I'm trying to see if there's a scripting engine or something that adapts to other KDE apps . .. like for processing system tray messages |
| 00:40.42 | mousex | I'm especifically trying to make an OSD (on-screen display) plug-in for apollon, but it doesn't support plug-ins. I want it to show OSD when a download is complete, etc. |
| 00:40.43 | thingy | mousex: well kde apps can talk to each other via DCOP. so you can use something like a bash script (i may be wrong about this part) to glue things together |
| 00:41.03 | mousex | do all apps use DCOP? |
| 00:41.18 | mousex | kde apps, that is |
| 00:41.29 | thingy | the ones that claim to require kdelibs, do! |
| 00:41.35 | mousex | :) |
| 00:41.44 | thingy | qt only apps prob. don't |
| 00:41.50 | mousex | where can I find more info about DCOP? |
| 00:42.19 | mousex | oh, man dcop |
| 00:42.23 | mousex | duh |
| 00:45.12 | mousex | thanks, thingy |
| 00:46.50 | kingsley | mou-sex? |
| 00:47.06 | kingsley | wow, someone actually put sex in their name |
| 00:47.11 | kingsley | and it isn't undernet |
| 00:47.17 | kingsley | O_o |
| 00:47.20 | jql | fascinating |
| 00:48.22 | mousex | its actually mouSeX |
| 00:48.38 | kingsley | ic ic |
| 00:48.42 | mousex | (but "sex" is suppossed to be the main idea ;-) ) |
| 00:49.23 | mousex | somebody in #debian asked me once if "Mou-sex" was a type of really good sex :) |
| 00:49.37 | mousex | like karate sex or something |
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| 01:06.35 | Dhraakellian | not safe for work, if nothing else |
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| 01:14.28 | DrZoot | when i use the new keyword in c++ to create a new object it always returns a pointer doesnt it?? |
| 01:14.57 | HuntsMan | yep |
| 01:15.26 | DrZoot | so "slider = new QSlider( Horizontal, this, "slider" );" that wont work, right? |
| 01:15.35 | HuntsMan | right |
| 01:15.37 | HuntsMan | should bt |
| 01:15.49 | HuntsMan | QSlider *slider = new QSlider(blabla); |
| 01:16.14 | DrZoot | yeah i thought so, thanks HuntsMan |
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| 01:33.00 | Arc | ~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~thx |
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| 01:34.29 | ironfroggy | in kate, is there a way to show multiple side bars? |
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| 01:45.54 | rr72 | i have an interesting idea |
| 01:47.17 | rr72 | is it possible to post stats of ur pc on ur appache server? |
| 01:47.31 | rr72 | like cpu and rpm and temps? |
| 01:47.42 | rr72 | updated every min or so |
| 01:47.56 | jql | I could probably write a 2-line shell script to do that |
| 01:48.03 | jql | but I don't think it's built-in |
| 01:49.02 | thingy | rr72: there's lots of php/perl modules which already do this...google for it |
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| 01:49.14 | rr72 | u mean cgi? |
| 01:49.24 | grepper | phpsysinfo |
| 01:50.01 | rr72 | how would i install it per-say |
| 01:51.10 | grepper | apt-get install phpsysinfo . for example :) |
| 01:51.14 | Dhraakellian | hmm... I seem to be getting a few popups now and then in konqi |
| 01:51.18 | rr72 | kool |
| 01:51.26 | rr72 | Dhraakellian~ use ff |
| 01:51.33 | Dhraakellian | and, yes, I do have the "Open new windows" option set to Smart |
| 01:51.35 | Alethes | <tarzan>google summer of code break down</tarzan> |
| 01:51.38 | Dhraakellian | \lart rr72 |
| 01:52.06 | Alethes | I'm certain nobody else finds that as amusing as I do |
| 01:52.07 | Alethes | heh |
| 01:52.18 | Dhraakellian | ,':-| |
| 01:52.58 | canllaith | Setings up freenx is very not easy |
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| 01:53.33 | thingy | thats why nomachine.com charge move for nx! :-) |
| 01:53.41 | thingy | swap/move/money |
| 01:54.03 | jql | bizzare. my mainboard temp is higher than my CPU temp |
| 01:54.15 | rr72 | bad |
| 01:54.21 | rr72 | or bog fan |
| 01:54.25 | jql | only by 1c |
| 01:54.37 | jql | M/B 36, cpu 35 |
| 01:54.38 | thingy | jql: prob. your sensons are misrepresented...i.e. your cpu is sensor = mb sensor and vice versa |
| 01:54.52 | rr72 | hehe |
| 01:54.56 | rr72 | u get glined? |
| 01:55.08 | Alethes | no, I didn't do it :P |
| 01:55.11 | Alethes | I'm not that mean |
| 01:55.21 | jql | ambient temp is 27, so those are pretty good |
| 01:55.32 | Alethes | it's interesting that google is more willing to invest money in kde though |
| 01:56.07 | rr72 | hehe |
| 01:56.10 | rr72 | haha |
| 01:57.06 | rr72 | thingy~ where would i point my browder to find the info? |
| 01:57.32 | Roey | sometimes I find some kio_imap process using 99% CPU time. |
| 01:57.35 | Roey | wtf is that all about? |
| 01:57.53 | thingy | rr72: info about? |
| 01:58.01 | rr72 | phpsysinfo |
| 01:58.07 | Alethes | kio_http seems to keep connections active even after it shouldn't be for some reason |
| 01:58.31 | Alethes | I saw something downloading and I couldn't figure out why, then I saw a bunch of kio_http processes open and killed them all and the downloads stopped |
| 01:58.37 | jql | yeah. I think lm-sensors is picking up a wacked out M/B <=> CPU swap |
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| 02:00.20 | rr72 | do i need to link php or somin? |
| 02:01.17 | thingy | rr72: http://freshmeat.net/projects/sysinfophp/ http://freshmeat.net/projects/yasis-perl/ http://freshmeat.net/projects/yasis/ http://freshmeat.net/projects/systeminfo/ |
| 02:03.44 | rr72 | do i need to have a php server or somin? |
| 02:05.05 | thingy | rr72: you need to have Apache installed and then install PHP...there are howtos for this on the net |
| 02:05.16 | rr72 | i have apppache |
| 02:05.26 | rr72 | just aperently not php |
| 02:06.24 | thingy | rr72: what distribution are you using? |
| 02:06.28 | rr72 | deb |
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| 02:08.39 | thingy | rr72: i think then something simlar to apt-get install php4 will get php installed and then follow the docs for installing the stats app if there isnt already a deb for it |
| 02:08.57 | rr72 | there is |
| 02:09.29 | rr72 | just don't know where to point my browser for the php scripty thingy |
| 02:10.03 | thingy | rr72: oh right...what was the deb called? |
| 02:10.13 | rr72 | phpsysinfo |
| 02:10.17 | thingy | one sec |
| 02:11.55 | thingy | rr72: can you try: http://localhost/var/www/phpsysinfo |
| 02:12.41 | rr72 | nope |
| 02:13.00 | rr72 | minus the dir i get a diolog box |
| 02:13.21 | rr72 | so just local/phpsysinfo |
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| 02:14.18 | maazaman | i dono if this is the channel to ask this in...but...anybody w/ dual monitor config and radeon card? i need a bit of help setting up... |
| 02:14.48 | slayerbob | what is the problem you are having ? |
| 02:15.29 | thingy | maazaman: best place for that is a forum...since you can then look at configs others have worked out...try searching for "xorg radeon dual monitor" on forums.gentoo.org or on www.ubuntuforums.org |
| 02:15.31 | rr72 | thingy~ any help? |
| 02:15.59 | maazaman | well..im using the ati driver, and the fglxconfig script to configure my xorg.conf, and i have dual monitors working...like..the mouse will go form one screen to the other, but they pictures are both the same |
| 02:16.03 | maazaman | it isnt spanned right |
| 02:16.17 | maazaman | i have it set to "dual head" |
| 02:16.45 | maazaman | if i try to set it to "big desktop" and startx, it goes back and forth, as if i set the hz rate too high |
| 02:17.17 | thingy | maazaman: i think you need something like the xinerama extension |
| 02:17.30 | maazaman | hmm...one sec |
| 02:17.46 | maazaman | ok..gotcha... |
| 02:23.08 | rr72 | thingy~ any ideas? |
| 02:23.13 | rr72 | does i t work on urs? |
| 02:23.28 | thingy | rr72: sorry I was helpling someone else |
| 02:24.03 | thingy | rr72: give me a min |
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| 02:24.44 | madpenguin8 | is there a way to get any kde app to re-read it's config file? |
| 02:26.27 | rr72 | canllaith how r u on this night? |
| 02:27.23 | canllaith | fine thanks |
| 02:28.11 | rr72 | im trying to get phpsysinfo working and that thingy over there is helping ;) |
| 02:30.47 | canllaith | I can nxssh -nx user@host without a problem. I don't see why it's not working in the gui |
| 02:32.18 | thingy | rr72: can you look at this file /usr/share/doc/phpsysinfo/README it explains that you need to add /usr/share/doc/phpsysinfo to your php.ini (i assume thats in /etc) and create a phpsysinfo config file |
| 02:32.35 | rr72 | thx |
| 02:35.13 | jkeel | does anyone know how to make Konvi do the silent /away that doesn't clutter everyone's screen? |
| 02:35.45 | rr72 | my /away wont even work |
| 02:35.51 | jkeel | heh |
| 02:36.08 | rr72 | --- Does this mean you're really back? |
| 02:36.09 | jkeel | you have to do '/away I'm leaving..' or something like that |
| 02:36.09 | icyfire0573 | is this the place to ask about problems compiling the SVN version of kde 3.4 or should i go over to kde-devel? |
| 02:36.12 | rr72 | after i /away |
| 02:36.21 | rr72 | anywhere |
| 02:36.28 | canllaith | icyfire0573, unless you're a developer, ask here |
| 02:36.47 | jkeel | rr72: do you '/away I'm away'? |
| 02:37.17 | rr72 | lmao |
| 02:37.19 | rr72 | no |
| 02:37.28 | icyfire0573 | checking for aRts-1.1... configure: error: aRts 1.1 not installed in the same prefix as KDE! is my problem, i just built arts with PREFIX="$HOME" and installed it there, (it even shows up there with which) but i still get that error when trying to config kdelibs |
| 02:37.38 | jkeel | rr72: maybe you should try it.. /away doesn't work here without a msg to go along with it |
| 02:38.18 | rr72 | i just did it |
| 02:38.32 | jkeel | heh... I guess it still doesn't work :p |
| 02:38.44 | canllaith | icyfire0573, are you doing ./configure --prefix=/path/to/prefix/you/installed/arts ? |
| 02:39.23 | icyfire0573 | canllaith --prefix=/home/icyfire --mandir=/home/icyfire/.man --infodir=/home/icyfire/.info --includedir=/home/icyfire/.include --libdir=/home/icyfire/.lib --sharedstatedir=/home/icyfire/.com --sysconfdir=/home/icyfire/.etc --libexecdir=/home/icyfire/.libexec --bindir=/home/icyfire/.bin --sbindir=/home/icyfire/.sbin |
| 02:39.41 | canllaith | That looks rather overkill |
| 02:40.00 | icyfire0573 | canllaith its necessary to make them .bin instead of bin and such (i think) |
| 02:40.16 | canllaith | Why wouldn't you just make the $KDEDIR be $HOME/.kde-3.4 or something |
| 02:40.27 | canllaith | Or $HOME/kde-3.4 |
| 02:40.38 | rr72 | thingy~ do u use debian? |
| 02:40.59 | icyfire0573 | canllaith i didn't set the $KDEDIR variable, that may be whats causing my problems |
| 02:41.05 | thingy | rr72: no kubuntu on a box which I don't have access to at the moment |
| 02:41.27 | rr72 | i would ask in #debian but they are so damn gay |
| 02:41.32 | canllaith | icyfire0573, no....... you don't need to set it at build time |
| 02:41.37 | canllaith | --prefix becomes $KDEDIR |
| 02:41.42 | rr72 | and banned :( |
| 02:41.51 | canllaith | You are best to simply pick a prefix. |
| 02:42.01 | canllaith | Make it --prefix=/home/icefire/kde-3.4 or something |
| 02:44.38 | rr72 | thingy~ not yet |
| 02:45.12 | icyfire0573 | its reporting that the arts prefix is /usr, can it be finding the "old" installation of kde |
| 02:45.47 | canllaith | Yes, it could be. Why don't you simply specific a prefix and get it over and done with instead of that ridiculous configuration? |
| 02:46.17 | icyfire0573 | because then my home directory would be cluttered :-) and i just spent an hour cleaning it out |
| 02:46.27 | canllaith | one directory is cluttered? |
| 02:46.51 | icyfire0573 | just $HOME |
| 02:47.04 | canllaith | Why can't you make it $HOME/kde-3.4 ? |
| 02:47.47 | icyfire0573 | im going to have to if i cant make my way work (im just being stubborn now) |
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| 02:49.00 | canllaith | icyfire0573, just use --prefix and leave the rest. |
| 02:49.09 | icyfire0573 | alright canllaith thanks |
| 02:49.19 | canllaith | Make the prefix $HOME/kde and you'll only have one directory rather than several in your $HOME |
| 02:49.27 | Klementas | I'm using KDE 3.4.1 and amaroK is completely freezing up when I try to connect to a net stream, does anyone else experience this? |
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| 02:49.44 | icyfire0573 | Klementas: gstreamer arts or xine? |
| 02:49.51 | Dhraakellian | and what version of amaroK? |
| 02:50.01 | Klementas | Dhraakellian: let me see........ |
| 02:50.18 | Dhraakellian | root has lande^Wtaken off again... |
| 02:50.37 | Klementas | amaroK 1.2.3 and I'm using Kubuntu |
| 02:51.08 | Klementas | icyfire0573: I'm not sure what it's using |
| 02:51.32 | thingy | Klementas: I think someone on #kubuntu asked you earlier whether you had removed any packages and you didn't respond...so have you removed any packages? |
| 02:51.50 | Klementas | thingy: nope |
| 02:52.02 | Klementas | I've been adding packages |
| 02:52.42 | Klementas | I don't see in the configuration in amaroK where I can set the back end |
| 02:52.48 | Dhraakellian | settings > configure amarok > engine |
| 02:52.54 | thingy | Klementas: so did you start off with a server install or a standard kubuntu desktop install? |
| 02:53.15 | Klementas | thingy: I did, apt-get install kubuntu-desktop |
| 02:53.55 | Klementas | Dhraakellian: it's empty! |
| 02:54.14 | Dhraakellian | no entries at all? |
| 02:54.18 | Klementas | Dhraakellian: none |
| 02:54.29 | Klementas | I have gstreamer installed |
| 02:54.38 | Klementas | I get sound from KDE |
| 02:54.55 | Klementas | and I watched an ogg theora file in kaffiene |
| 02:55.03 | Klementas | it had sound |
| 02:55.22 | Dhraakellian | so do you have three blanks in the combo box? |
| 02:55.53 | Klementas | Dhraakellian: one blank and then a < no engine > |
| 02:56.06 | thingy | Klementas: from this thread: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20648&highlight=amarok+freeze (Go in the Control center --> Sound & Multimedia --> sound system --> hardware --> Select Audio Device --> choose ALSA (Advanced Linux Sound Architecture)) |
| 02:56.25 | Klementas | thank you thingy :) |
| 02:56.32 | Klementas | I didn't know that ubuntu had forums |
| 02:56.44 | Dhraakellian | and I believe amarok 1.2.4 is the latest of the 1.2.x series |
| 02:56.58 | Klementas | Dhraakellian: it's not in kubuntu though :( |
| 02:57.06 | Dhraakellian | although I haven't the foggiest what the latest in the debian or kubuntu repos is |
| 02:57.07 | Dhraakellian | ah |
| 02:57.15 | canllaith | This is driving me mad |
| 02:57.22 | Klementas | I'll do an apt-update and see |
| 02:57.27 | canllaith | if I ssh -i /path/to/key/file/docs/say/this/stupid/thing/is/using |
| 02:57.29 | canllaith | It works |
| 02:57.33 | canllaith | if I try to use nxclient |
| 02:57.43 | canllaith | it times out because it wants a passphrase |
| 02:58.22 | rr72 | i can't get phpsysinfo working |
| 02:59.49 | Dhraakellian | heh |
| 03:00.37 | rr72 | i figured it out |
| 03:01.23 | rr72 | thingy~ i figured it out |
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| 03:01.43 | rr72 | no i didnt |
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| 03:02.33 | thingy | heh |
| 03:02.47 | rr72 | its in a dir in /var/www |
| 03:02.51 | rr72 | i got that |
| 03:03.16 | thingy | rr72: btw I think you need to simply do a http://localhost/phpsysinfo to test the setup |
| 03:03.23 | thingy | thats what I understood from the readme |
| 03:03.30 | rr72 | what do i do? |
| 03:03.50 | rr72 | i get a dolog asking to dl or open with and "browse" |
| 03:04.59 | thingy | eh? |
| 03:05.12 | thingy | i don't know |
| 03:05.23 | thingy | i thought it would show you the stats if you went to that url |
| 03:05.51 | rr72 | i think i have to xonfigure somin |
| 03:06.02 | rr72 | is there a chan? |
| 03:06.36 | rr72 | shouldnt debian do all the configuring? |
| 03:07.31 | rr72 | --- Cannot join #debian (You are banned). fucking #debian. bunch of asses in there |
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| 03:15.09 | rr72 | who uses debian? |
| 03:15.22 | rr72 | grepper~ can i bother u for a few? |
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| 03:25.26 | Alethes | usually when you bother somebody, you don't get permission |
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| 03:26.59 | Dhraakellian | Alethes, may I please annoy the heck out of you? |
| 03:27.06 | Alethes | oh, I guess so |
| 03:27.10 | Alethes | just this one time, ok? |
| 03:27.15 | Dhraakellian | heh |
| 03:27.17 | Dhraakellian | dang... |
| 03:27.24 | Dhraakellian | now I can't quite think of how to do it |
| 03:27.32 | Alethes | hehe |
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| 03:34.13 | Zalamander | hi, does KDE have an application for talking to mobile phones? |
| 03:34.30 | rr72 | prolly |
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| 03:35.22 | Alethes | it's called klonelyguy |
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| 03:35.37 | Alethes | for people that can't find humans to talk to that resort to talking to phones instead |
| 03:36.04 | thiago | Zalamander: there's kcall/kphone |
| 03:36.41 | thiago | http://dot.kde.org/1119710214/ |
| 03:36.52 | grepper | sup rr72 |
| 03:37.00 | Zalamander | thiago I guess these aren't part of the main distribution then? I don't seem to have those applications |
| 03:38.47 | rr72 | i am trying to get phpsysinfo working on my debian box |
| 03:38.50 | rr72 | any ideas? |
| 03:38.59 | Zalamander | hm, I don't think kcall/kphone are what I'm looking for. I mean something to interact with software on my phone such that I can backup and restore the address book, sync it from my kaddressbook, that kind of thing |
| 03:39.11 | grepper | rr72: shouldn't be too difficult to set up |
| 03:39.16 | rr72 | hehe |
| 03:39.20 | rr72 | thingy~ u listening? |
| 03:39.38 | rr72 | what packs do i need? |
| 03:39.51 | thiago | Zalamander: the first release of kcall was yesterday :) |
| 03:40.27 | grepper | rr72: you talking to me ? |
| 03:40.38 | rr72 | yup |
| 03:40.39 | Zalamander | thiago ah, so I see now :-) |
| 03:40.55 | rr72 | i got phpsysinfo and i configured that with dpkg |
| 03:41.03 | rr72 | and appache |
| 03:43.15 | grepper | your have phpsysinfo in your DocumentRoot ? |
| 03:43.38 | rr72 | idk |
| 03:43.51 | rr72 | u mean /var/www? |
| 03:43.55 | rr72 | if then yeah |
| 03:44.41 | grepper | if that is your DocumentRoot then yes |
| 03:45.05 | rr72 | it is usually right? |
| 03:45.09 | grepper | http://localhost/phpsysinfo/index.php doesn't work ? |
| 03:46.03 | rr72 | i get a diolog asking to open or dl the file |
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| 03:46.57 | thingy | rr72: do you have files in /var/www/phpsysinfo or is /var/www/phpsysinfo a link to somewhere or is the directory empty? |
| 03:46.58 | grepper | what php packages do you have installed ? |
| 03:47.23 | rr72 | its a link to /usr/bin |
| 03:47.28 | rr72 | phpsysinfo |
| 03:47.33 | rr72 | idk |
| 03:47.44 | rr72 | all i know is how to search for packs |
| 03:48.03 | grepper | rr72: grep DirectoryIndex /etc/apache/httpd.conf |
| 03:48.40 | grepper | do you see index.php3 index.php in that line ? |
| 03:48.55 | rr72 | grep: /etc/apache/httpd.conf: No such file or directory |
| 03:49.06 | grepper | you are using apache2 ? |
| 03:49.25 | rr72 | idk |
| 03:49.32 | rr72 | i just apt-get install apache |
| 03:50.08 | thingy | rr72: did you create the config.php file for phpsysinfo like the readme mentioned? |
| 03:50.19 | rr72 | it was already created |
| 03:50.44 | grepper | something is wrong if you don't have an /etc/apache/httpd.conf if you are not using apache2 |
| 03:50.50 | grepper | ls -ld /etc/apache* |
| 03:50.59 | thingy | rr72: any config stuff in there you need to setup? which could be causing the dialog i mean |
| 03:51.10 | rr72 | /bin/ls: /etc/apache*: No such file or directory |
| 03:51.12 | rr72 | uh oh |
| 03:51.21 | grepper | apt-get install apache :) |
| 03:51.44 | rr72 | lmao |
| 03:51.50 | rr72 | i didnt ssh to my box |
| 03:51.56 | rr72 | hahaahahahahahahahaahahahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh |
| 03:52.45 | rr72 | no i don't have php or whatever in the file |
| 03:53.30 | gregday | http://www.izpitera.ru/lj/tetka.swf |
| 03:53.34 | gregday | this is mesmerizing |
| 03:53.36 | grepper | DirectoryIndex index.html index.php3 index.php index.htm index.shtml index.cgi index.phtml |
| 03:53.42 | rr72 | <grepper> do you see index.php3 index.php in that line ? no idont |
| 03:53.50 | grepper | ^^ |
| 03:53.53 | rr72 | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:54.35 | grepper | you install phpsysinfo from apt ? |
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| 03:55.03 | rr72 | yes |
| 03:55.04 | rr72 | wow |
| 03:55.13 | thingy | it worked? |
| 03:55.16 | rr72 | no |
| 03:55.19 | thingy | oh |
| 03:55.19 | rr72 | wow swf |
| 03:55.35 | grepper | flash ? |
| 03:55.43 | rr72 | yup |
| 03:55.46 | rr72 | kinky |
| 03:55.53 | grepper | restart apache ? |
| 03:55.55 | gregday | i could watch her for hours |
| 03:56.10 | rr72 | hehe |
| 03:56.20 | rr72 | TomasuBored~ look at http://www.izpitera.ru/lj/tetka.swf |
| 03:56.40 | rr72 | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:56.42 | rr72 | same thing |
| 03:56.49 | TomasuBored | thats cool :) |
| 03:56.58 | rr72 | should i remove and reinstall phpsysinfo? |
| 03:57.12 | grepper | rr72: no, you should add to the line like I told you to :) |
| 03:57.17 | rr72 | oo |
| 03:57.19 | rr72 | oops |
| 03:57.22 | grepper | oh |
| 03:57.24 | grepper | you did |
| 03:58.04 | rr72 | didnt |
| 03:58.10 | grepper | maybe php is not properly configured |
| 03:58.23 | grepper | never mind, its late and I can't read |
| 03:59.33 | rr72 | nope |
| 03:59.39 | rr72 | restarted apache too |
| 03:59.53 | rr72 | darn |
| 03:59.56 | rr72 | i don't think so |
| 04:00.02 | rr72 | how do i config php? |
| 04:00.45 | rr72 | i mean i think it isnt right |
| 04:01.36 | grepper | grep php /etc/apache/mime.types |
| 04:02.05 | rr72 | application/x-httpd-php phtml pht php |
| 04:02.05 | rr72 | application/x-httpd-php-source phps |
| 04:02.05 | rr72 | application/x-httpd-php3 php3 |
| 04:02.05 | rr72 | application/x-httpd-php3-preprocessed php3p |
| 04:02.05 | rr72 | application/x-httpd-php4 php4 |
| 04:02.21 | grepper | don't flood here please, this is already off-topic |
| 04:02.32 | grepper | you are abusing the channel if you do |
| 04:02.52 | grepper | we should take this to pm |
| 04:03.27 | canllaith | Did you enable php in apache conf ? |
| 04:03.40 | Alethes | hey |
| 04:03.45 | Alethes | a channel that actually helps with php :) |
| 04:03.52 | canllaith | I had to uncomment Include /etc/apache/mod_php.conf |
| 04:03.53 | Alethes | ##php is not very helpful :) |
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| 04:04.02 | rr72 | #debian sux |
| 04:04.07 | rr72 | ill check |
| 04:04.41 | rr72 | which config file? |
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| 04:05.45 | canllaith | httpd.conf |
| 04:06.30 | rr72 | i think i got it |
| 04:06.54 | grepper | I think its an AddType ommision |
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| 04:30.54 | johnny69 | I feel all Null & Void. |
| 04:31.08 | Destructo | hello all; anyone here familair with k3b |
| 04:32.07 | MrGrim | I'm familiar w/ it to the point of selecting the project type, dragging files to it, and clicking on burn |
| 04:32.23 | Destructo | well im having issues at startup |
| 04:32.51 | Destructo | the #k3b channel has been dead for the past few days |
| 04:33.07 | MrGrim | I probably can't help |
| 04:33.10 | rr72 | johnny69~ look at http://www.izpitera.ru/lj/tetka.swf |
| 04:33.15 | MrGrim | I'd see if there is a mailing list or forum that is more active |
| 04:33.25 | Destructo | yeah did that also |
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| 05:08.52 | Octane | is there a reason that konqueror's progress bar when downloading something always says 100% |
| 05:09.51 | muntyan | Octane: ,aybe you downloading something from a server which doesn't tell file size? |
| 05:10.18 | Octane | muntyan, yes thats what i thought the first time this happened, but it always happens with every download from every file server :) |
| 05:10.22 | muntyan | or it's always-always 100%, with any sites and files? |
| 05:10.29 | Octane | ya |
| 05:10.35 | MrGrim | Octane: I think the ftp kio slave doesn't know how to use "ls -l" |
| 05:10.47 | MrGrim | does it only do it w/ ftp files? |
| 05:10.52 | MrGrim | or does it mess up w/ http files too? |
| 05:10.54 | Octane | nope, http too |
| 05:11.11 | Octane | with ftp its expected,same thing with firefox and with itnenret explorer actually |
| 05:14.27 | muntyan | Octane: does this work http://easynews.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/azureus/Azureus_2.3.0.2_linux.AMD64.tar.bz2 |
| 05:14.29 | muntyan | ? |
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| 06:09.37 | kosue | who wants to help me? |
| 06:09.56 | phlux | Shoot. |
| 06:11.33 | kosue | i install a software in suse but i wanna know or see the installation folder |
| 06:12.02 | kosue | i need put the someones files you know |
| 06:14.37 | phlux | don't know that one |
| 06:14.44 | phlux | KDE doesn't even compile on FreeBSD..heh |
| 06:15.32 | kosue | ohh |
| 06:15.49 | kosue | is based in unix right? |
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| 06:16.55 | kosue | ok i find the folders |
| 06:23.03 | physos | phlux: what are you talking there? KDE compiles fine on freebsd |
| 06:23.12 | physos | http://freebsd.kde.org |
| 06:25.59 | MrGrim | physos: more importantly is why he brought that up |
| 06:26.02 | MrGrim | in a convo about suse |
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| 07:14.08 | Frost^ | canllaith, you should remove that svn-features url from the topic |
| 07:14.32 | Frost^ | it only make people drool about things they can't have |
| 07:15.18 | Frost^ | the page design is beautiful, by the way |
| 07:17.27 | canllaith | Frost^, thank you, physos taught me everything I know about css ;) |
| 07:18.16 | Frost^ | I think I'm one of the few who finds html dificult |
| 07:18.27 | Frost^ | difficult even. well, it's more about art |
| 07:18.38 | canllaith | Oh no, I find it plenty difficult don't you worry =p |
| 07:18.57 | Frost^ | I really appreciate good looking webpages :) |
| 07:19.29 | Frost^ | does kde have a certain timeframe for releases or will it be released when its ready? |
| 07:19.33 | icyfire0573 | I appreciate them too, but they can be such a pain to make |
| 07:19.42 | canllaith | Well, a bit of both. |
| 07:19.43 | icyfire0573 | Frost^: they have a tentative release schedule |
| 07:19.58 | canllaith | There is a schedule, but if necessary the release will be held back to fix showstopper bugs |
| 07:20.00 | physos | Frost^: http://developer.kde.org/development-versions/ |
| 07:20.18 | Frost^ | physos, thank you. I'm gonna bookmark this link for the future :) |
| 07:20.39 | physos | Frost^: There is no schedule for KDE4 yet (to be decided at aKademy this year) |
| 07:20.56 | Frost^ | kde 3.5 will be enough for me :) |
| 07:20.58 | physos | and 3.4.2 is scheduled end of July |
| 07:21.29 | physos | There is no schedule for that yet, but a release in coincidence with aKademy is likely. |
| 07:21.36 | Frost^ | maybe I only got more aware of kde recently, but it seems that since kde 3.4 development has boosted incredibly |
| 07:21.44 | icyfire0573 | i demand kde 4 :-) but only when its done |
| 07:21.55 | icyfire0573 | Frost^: same here |
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| 07:22.07 | Frost^ | I only started using kde with 3.4rc but still |
| 07:22.18 | Frost^ | never heard so many stories about it |
| 07:22.38 | Frost^ | I just want to have the ability of making applets in python |
| 07:22.39 | Frost^ | :) |
| 07:26.02 | physos | Frost^: nah, development is always fast. Sometimes it is more public than at other times. |
| 07:26.27 | Frost^ | that might be it |
| 07:26.49 | Frost^ | I wish I could have joined the team myself but I'm a bit tired with c++ |
| 07:27.01 | Frost^ | and of course lack a lot of skill and knowledge |
| 07:27.15 | Frost^ | so I end up trying coding lame gui apps :| |
| 07:28.29 | canllaith | KDE is not entirely c++ |
| 07:28.37 | canllaith | There is lots of work in other places |
| 07:29.15 | Frost^ | documentation, I know |
| 07:29.34 | Frost^ | but my english is not really that good |
| 07:29.40 | Frost^ | not for anything lengthy at least |
| 07:29.56 | Frost^ | and I'm not that familiar with kde yet :) |
| 07:30.03 | canllaith | Not only documentation |
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| 07:30.15 | canllaith | I have code in kicker that is almost entirely XML |
| 07:30.38 | Frost^ | hmm, I thought XML was just a file format |
| 07:30.43 | Frost^ | didn't know one can code in it |
| 07:31.18 | core`cappiez | What setting would I turn off to stop Konquerer from popping when a CD is inserted into the ROM drive? I inserted a DVD-R (Into DVD-ROM), and it popped up 29+ Konquerer windows. |
| 07:31.37 | Frost^ | once kicker gets support for python applets I can start partying. not that I'm that good in python but at least I like using it |
| 07:33.19 | Tac | i just want to be able to put the kpanel in instead of the bland desktop switcher... |
| 07:33.28 | Tac | that would make me a happy boy |
| 07:33.44 | Frost^ | I want to be able to understand kopete's code |
| 07:33.59 | Frost^ | so that I can finally fix the bug which prevents me from using it |
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| 07:37.57 | core`cappiez | Anyone? |
| 07:38.26 | Frost^ | canllaith, can you please show me that XML code? |
| 07:39.35 | canllaith | I wrote an article about it |
| 07:39.49 | canllaith | http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Kicker%20Hacks |
| 07:40.01 | Frost^ | thank you |
| 07:40.05 | canllaith | This is some of it: |
| 07:40.07 | canllaith | http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/KDE/kdebase/kicker/libkicker/kickerSettings.kcfg?rev=423711&view=markup |
| 07:40.40 | canllaith | Basically, I read through the c++ source code looking for kconfig settings to mark up in XML to assist in porting to kconfig XT |
| 07:40.51 | canllaith | Just an example that not all KDE work is c++ |
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| 07:46.20 | Frost^ | hey I'm gonna try some of those little hack |
| 07:46.20 | Frost^ | s |
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| 07:51.02 | Frost^ | hmm, does the ShowKMenuText thingy works only in svn? |
| 07:51.41 | canllaith | yes |
| 07:52.22 | Frost^ | oh ok |
| 07:53.08 | core`cappiez | What setting would I turn off to stop Konquerer from popping when a CD is inserted into the ROM drive? I inserted a DVD-R (Into DVD-ROM), and it popped up 29+ Konquerer windows. |
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| 08:30.25 | viktor | I have not been able to use konqueror for a long time because of this error:Unable to create io-slave: |
| 08:30.26 | viktor | klauncher said: Fejl ved indlæsning af 'kio_http' |
| 08:30.44 | viktor | Do you know what the problem could be? |
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| 08:32.47 | viktor | I use Mandrake Cooker and the problem has been there since 3.2 or so |
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| 08:40.35 | grepper | viktor: same problem for a new user ? |
| 08:41.50 | viktor | it is the same for root, but i haven't tried to create a new user. But I have tried to delete my .kde directory completely |
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| 08:44.35 | viktor | Should I try with a new user? |
| 08:45.05 | grepper | well, if you deleted or mv'ed your KDEHOME then it would be pretty much the same |
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| 08:45.39 | Sjimmie | hi everyone :) |
| 08:45.45 | grepper | hello |
| 08:45.52 | Sjimmie | nice sunday to all :) |
| 08:46.12 | grepper | too early to tell :) |
| 08:46.20 | Sjimmie | you must the usa then :) |
| 08:46.33 | Sjimmie | i just woke up in a beautiful sunday :D |
| 08:46.34 | grepper | nope |
| 08:46.43 | grepper | Canada |
| 08:47.13 | Sjimmie | oh sorry :) |
| 08:48.57 | Sjimmie | oke, i check the faq it aint there either :) so i got two questions :) |
| 08:49.24 | Sjimmie | first one: I have an external taskbar to my kicker, but it cant get it to go _under_ the kickerbar |
| 08:50.07 | Sjimmie | anyone can confirm that? or am i crazy? :) |
| 08:51.07 | grepper | ick, under. I had a problem that it did go under till I changed it |
| 08:55.34 | Sjimmie | http://adam.borisaelen.nl/~sjimmie/screen.png |
| 08:55.43 | Sjimmie | oke so that was the first one, guess its a hard one |
| 08:55.46 | Sjimmie | second is the soundmixer |
| 08:56.15 | Sjimmie | i have a soundblaster live 5.1, and when i add it to my kicker i get a shitload of channels, thats fine, i can hide most of them |
| 08:56.33 | Sjimmie | but there isnt one channel that is like the 'master' |
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| 08:56.44 | grepper | just use kmix and dock it |
| 08:56.46 | Sjimmie | is there an alternative soundmixer applet i could try? |
| 08:56.49 | grepper | then you get one slider |
| 08:56.50 | Sjimmie | right :) |
| 08:57.02 | grepper | rather than the applet |
| 08:57.09 | Sjimmie | lets check that |
| 08:58.14 | Sjimmie | ehmm, nope same list of channels, and none control master volume |
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| 08:58.50 | Sjimmie | my card is also detected as SB Live [Unknown] |
| 08:58.57 | Sjimmie | hmmm, might be that |
| 08:59.03 | grepper | eh ? |
| 08:59.15 | grepper | just left click it |
| 08:59.33 | grepper | you icon in the system tray (dock it first in its config) |
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| 09:00.02 | Sjimmie | oh indeed |
| 09:00.09 | Sjimmie | well that slider doesnt work either :) |
| 09:00.16 | Sjimmie | only lowers my front channel speakers :) |
| 09:00.51 | Sjimmie | but it is the icon i was looking for this one is nice |
| 09:00.53 | grepper | which one works for you ? |
| 09:00.59 | grepper | PCM ? |
| 09:01.01 | Sjimmie | none :) |
| 09:01.08 | Sjimmie | nope, that ones only the front also |
| 09:01.16 | Sjimmie | and the wave surround controls the rear |
| 09:01.17 | grepper | I only have 2 speakers, so haven't played with that |
| 09:01.25 | Sjimmie | and the center controls the center |
| 09:01.29 | grepper | though I have a SB live! |
| 09:01.29 | Sjimmie | so i need to do 3 sliders |
| 09:01.43 | Sjimmie | but i think i have the wrond driver or something |
| 09:01.47 | Sjimmie | since it says, unknown |
| 09:01.56 | Sjimmie | and sound is kinda shit |
| 09:01.59 | grepper | what card is it actually ? |
| 09:02.06 | Sjimmie | hmmm lets check |
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| 09:02.19 | Sjimmie | 00:0d.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev 0a) |
| 09:02.20 | grepper | you are using alsa ? |
| 09:02.23 | Sjimmie | yeah |
| 09:02.48 | grepper | damn fine card :) |
| 09:02.50 | grepper | 0000:01:07.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev 0a) |
| 09:03.10 | grepper | mine sounds great |
| 09:03.24 | Sjimmie | crap :) |
| 09:03.29 | grepper | I assume you don't have a dell laptop ? |
| 09:03.38 | Sjimmie | no just a workstation |
| 09:03.46 | grepper | dell ? |
| 09:03.50 | Sjimmie | nope |
| 09:03.54 | grepper | ok |
| 09:03.56 | Sjimmie | its on a iwill mobo |
| 09:04.05 | grepper | there is another version of the emu10k1 for dell oem |
| 09:04.09 | Sjimmie | i think i messed up my alsomixer setting |
| 09:04.12 | Sjimmie | s |
| 09:04.15 | Sjimmie | hmmm |
| 09:04.38 | Sjimmie | well, in kmix, do you also see as device SB Live [Unknown] ? |
| 09:04.42 | grepper | if you have PCM set too high, you might get distored sound |
| 09:04.58 | Sjimmie | aahhhh oke! |
| 09:05.08 | Sjimmie | i think you are right |
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| 09:05.28 | Sjimmie | well oke, damn, but i want a master slider for all :) |
| 09:06.47 | grepper | master should do that you would think |
| 09:07.52 | Sjimmie | might be weird that i have 2 cards :) |
| 09:08.04 | Sjimmie | one on board, and the sb live 5.1 in my pci |
| 09:08.21 | grepper | "For Surround Systems please be aware that the Master device often regulates only the Front Speakers. This is a limitation of your Soundcard driver" |
| 09:08.32 | grepper | from kmix handbook |
| 09:08.48 | Sjimmie | damn! |
| 09:08.52 | Sjimmie | but windows can do it! |
| 09:08.54 | Sjimmie | hahahaha :) |
| 09:09.35 | grepper | check the alsa site |
| 09:09.46 | grepper | maybe someone has figured out something on the lists |
| 09:10.01 | grepper | or one of the faq's for the emu10k1 driver |
| 09:10.54 | grepper | btw: the windows drivers are written by the people who actually have access to the hw specs :) |
| 09:11.45 | Sjimmie | i suppose that makes life a lot easier :) |
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| 09:12.04 | Sjimmie | yeah, im gonna check the alsa website, it was down yesterday thou |
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| 09:27.36 | Sjimmie | oh btw, anyone knows some more nice yum repositories i _should_ add to my fc4 yum config? |
| 09:27.42 | Sjimmie | i have livna and dag so far.. |
| 09:27.52 | Sjimmie | and the default repos ofcourse |
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| 09:28.26 | Japsu | grepper: better yet, the windows drivers might in some cases be written by the people who *wrote* the specs... OR SHOULD HAVE WRITTEN |
| 09:28.30 | Japsu | :D |
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| 09:54.14 | sbriesen | Hi! |
| 09:54.59 | sbriesen | @amd64 users: please test ebuild in bug 93535 |
| 09:55.17 | sbriesen | sorry ;) |
| 09:55.20 | sbriesen | wrong window |
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| 09:56.14 | sbriesen | just ignore what I've said |
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| 10:21.16 | qos | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:21.21 | qos | hey guys, there is no "at" on my keyboard. does anyone know why? |
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| 10:29.49 | qos | right, but i think i know where it has hide ... ;) |
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| 10:39.50 | aurax | hello |
| 10:39.54 | aurax | is there a way to use kmail in windows ? |
| 10:43.17 | BC86 | aurax: you could try cygwin |
| 10:43.38 | BC86 | aurax: but it is quite slow |
| 10:44.24 | anhi | why would you want to use windows... |
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| 10:45.31 | aurax | i want to make it work with kolab server. |
| 10:45.38 | aurax | some uses windows, some linux |
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| 10:46.54 | BC86 | aurax: isn't there a native kolab client for win? |
| 10:48.06 | canllaith | I know of someone who's run it over cygwin and XDMCP |
| 10:48.32 | aurax | no BC86 |
| 10:53.48 | BC86 | aurax: there are plugins for outlook: http://www.kolab.org/about-kolab-clients.html |
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| 10:56.32 | naddar | anyone here |
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| 10:58.14 | Flendor | Hello. |
| 10:58.51 | naddar | hi Flendor |
| 10:59.04 | naddar | you know how to set the graphic card in kde |
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| 10:59.14 | naddar | it wont start up so i have to configure it |
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| 11:02.12 | grepper | naddar: you need to reconfigure X |
| 11:02.20 | grepper | what distro do you use ? |
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| 11:03.03 | naddar | debian |
| 11:03.39 | grepper | dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 11:03.45 | grepper | or just edit /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 manually |
| 11:04.10 | grepper | make sure you have xfree installed properly, is it a new install ? |
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| 11:04.39 | naddar | yeah |
| 11:04.47 | naddar | ok i check it once thanks |
| 11:04.56 | grepper | just to make sure: apt-get install x-window-system-core |
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| 11:30.04 | naddar | he tells me can't open display so i geus its a wrong setting but whats the config file |
| 11:30.46 | grepper | as I said /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 |
| 11:31.05 | grepper | what command are you using to start X ? |
| 11:31.36 | naddar | startkdeµ |
| 11:31.59 | grepper | from console ? |
| 11:32.10 | grepper | that is the wrong command |
| 11:32.20 | grepper | startx /usr/bin/startkde |
| 11:32.59 | grepper | or echo startkde>~/.xinitrc (assuming there is nothing in your xinitrc you want), and just use "startx" |
| 11:35.32 | naddar | ok i installed kdm and it whas ok |
| 11:35.34 | naddar | now it works |
| 11:35.46 | grepper | or that :) |
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| 11:35.51 | naddar | lol |
| 11:35.54 | naddar | it works now |
| 11:35.55 | naddar | hehehe |
| 11:36.06 | grepper | startkde is not meant to be used directly |
| 11:36.30 | grepper | though you can run in from a term in bare X to test things |
| 11:36.38 | grepper | s/in/it |
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| 11:39.41 | naddar | grepper can i set kde in dutch language |
| 11:39.47 | naddar | so my wife also have something lol |
| 11:40.15 | grepper | if you install the i18n package |
| 11:40.24 | grepper | kde-i18n-nl I would guess ? |
| 11:42.19 | naddar | last question how can i tell to start kdm automatic |
| 11:42.56 | grepper | dpkg-reconfigure kdm |
| 11:42.59 | grepper | select kdm |
| 11:43.05 | grepper | probably already done for you |
| 11:43.20 | grepper | ls /etc/rc2.d/*kdm* |
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| 11:43.49 | naddar | oh it whas done |
| 11:43.50 | naddar | thaznks |
| 11:43.55 | grepper | np |
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| 11:59.35 | Cerulean | I think I read a while back that KDE has GRUB integration in 3.4 (e.g you can restart into another kernel from KDE). Is this true, and if so, how? |
| 12:00.40 | grepper | lilo |
| 12:01.16 | grepper | oh, maybe grub too, I don't have grub installed on this partition that I run kde on |
| 12:01.22 | grepper | mine only shows lilo |
| 12:01.33 | Cerulean | grepper: Where? |
| 12:01.43 | Cerulean | where does it "show it" |
| 12:02.06 | grepper | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:02.33 | Cerulean | ah |
| 12:02.37 | canllaith | In the log out dialog, if you enable it under the KDM configurator. |
| 12:03.12 | grepper | oh, sorry |
| 12:03.20 | grepper | I was thinking of the configurator |
| 12:03.56 | grepper | confibulator |
| 12:04.22 | canllaith | :) |
| 12:05.09 | grepper | cool, I can see my building in google satellite maps |
| 12:05.11 | Cerulean | I'm only seeing the option to show LILO boot options (thought it is disabled, of course) in the Login Manager section of KControl |
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| 12:06.51 | grepper | guess you can just use grub-reboot |
| 12:07.01 | grepper | never used it myself |
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| 12:50.04 | David23_ | hi |
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| 12:50.50 | David23_ | I have a problem here. somehow media:/ remains empty since the last system update. but, if I plug in my usb-harddrive hald mounts it and its displayed in media:/ ! |
| 12:51.04 | Julianyus | hi |
| 12:51.07 | David23_ | but my other harddisks and the cdrom is gone |
| 12:51.09 | David23_ | any ideas? |
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| 12:52.27 | yanger | hello, trying to use kaudiocreator to rip a cd I just bought :D but it crashes everytime i try to rip them.... |
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| 12:54.19 | grepper | David23_: how did you do it - I wouldn 't mind the same situation :) |
| 12:54.58 | David23_ | grepper: emerge hald ;) |
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| 12:55.20 | grepper | I don't need a dozen partitions displayed in media:/ |
| 12:56.04 | grepper | hal 24206 0.0 0.5 4076 2596 ? Ss 01:10 0:04 /usr/sbin/hald --drop-privileges |
| 12:56.40 | David23_ | grepper: but I need at least the cdrom! |
| 12:56.48 | David23_ | which hal doesnt automount btw. |
| 12:57.16 | grepper | does it show in the konq sidebar ? |
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| 13:02.33 | hps | sorry |
| 13:02.35 | hps | *g* |
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| 13:20.49 | clls | Which is the most stable gcc version (apart from 4.0.0) that you could advise ? |
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| 13:20.57 | clls | (in the 3.4. series) |
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| 13:27.29 | canllaith | I'm still using 3.3.X |
| 13:29.48 | hps | debian sid still has gcc 3.3.x as standard so i am still using that and it works well |
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| 13:30.54 | hps | can gcc 4.0 compile kde now? |
| 13:32.00 | grepper | seems to produce slow binaries in the few times I've used it, never tried for kde |
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| 13:32.34 | grepper | as you can't mix 3.3 and 3.4 afaik |
| 13:32.43 | grepper | in c++ apps anyways |
| 13:33.50 | clls | hum |
| 13:34.15 | clls | wait, If I compile kde with 3.4.4, will the apps that I compile with 4.0.0 work later on ? |
| 13:34.18 | grepper | so if your qt is compiled with 3.3 use that |
| 13:34.44 | clls | grepper, fedora rpm (qt) |
| 13:34.46 | hps | clls: dont think so |
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| 13:35.31 | clls | hps, but if I leave gcc 3.4.4 as default, everything will work fine |
| 13:35.36 | grepper | "- C++ code compiled by g++-3.3 and g++-3.4 is not compatible. Applications using C++ libraries have to make sure that these libraries are rebuilt." <- from README.Debian for gcc |
| 13:36.23 | hps | grepper: and the same applies to g++-4.0 too, and i dont know if kde can be compiled with it (there where problems after the release of gcc 4.0) |
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| 13:36.35 | grepper | yep |
| 13:36.38 | hps | clls: gcc 3.4 should work yes |
| 13:36.54 | grepper | heh, sorry, meant to paste the README for 4.0 :P |
| 13:37.13 | clls | hps, ok thanks |
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| 13:41.53 | hps | it seams that gcc 4 is still blacklisted in kde svn |
| 13:42.54 | clls | pfff |
| 13:43.24 | clls | I compiled kopete and amarok by removing the compiler check on gcc 4 and they work both fine |
| 13:44.41 | ep | I've mouse died, frozen but it works if i boot to windows. How do I use the main menu and/or panel buttons via the keyboard? |
| 13:45.19 | Octane | can anyone recommend a good system monitor, like gkrellm (and don't say superkaramba :) ) |
| 13:46.06 | hps | hm.. use gkrellm :) |
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| 13:46.15 | mart_k | Octane: What do you want to monitor? |
| 13:46.28 | ep | And if someone has a suggestion as to how to fix my mouse, that would be appreciated. It's been working for months, I havent recently upgraded the kernel or anything either. |
| 13:46.33 | Octane | mart_k, disk usage, cpu, eth0 up/down |
| 13:46.44 | mart_k | Octane: CPU usage can be monitors by an applet, temperature with ksensors. |
| 13:47.20 | ep | Its a usb mouse i tried a ps2 adaptor but that didn't fix |
| 13:47.26 | Octane | mart_k, i tried KSim but its so ugly |
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| 13:48.00 | canllaith | ep, main menu is alt f1 |
| 13:48.11 | ep | thanks |
| 13:48.33 | mart_k | Octane: Hmm, I don't a program for disk usage and eth0 up/down. |
| 13:49.09 | Octane | mart_k, alright thanks anyway man |
| 13:49.28 | mart_k | Octane: np |
| 13:49.56 | wirwzd | Oktane: Moaning Goat Meter |
| 13:52.13 | Octane | anyone know if kynaptic keeps a log of its actions? |
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| 13:53.13 | Octane | wirwzd, i thought you were kidding |
| 13:53.15 | Octane | looking it up now |
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| 13:53.41 | wirwzd | Octane:its a perl tk app |
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| 13:56.17 | frog | hi silly question: can i insert more graphics at once in oo-writer? and rotate the separate pic (ie 180°) |
| 13:57.26 | wirwzd | http://svn.xiph.org/trunk/mgm/doc/index.html |
| 13:57.41 | Octane | wirwzd, the last release is from 2002 |
| 13:57.48 | grepper | frog: this is a kde question because you are running open office in kde ? :P |
| 13:57.59 | StevenR | frog: that's not kde question, and it's not really clear what you want anyway |
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| 13:58.10 | Rv` | Hi :) |
| 13:58.21 | StevenR | lo |
| 13:58.24 | frog | sorry guys :o/ |
| 13:58.33 | Rv` | does anybody knows where I can get some help about spam filtering with Kmail ? |
| 13:58.47 | frog | anyway thought i try here |
| 13:59.11 | wirwzd | Octane: not much need for updating, it just reads /proc |
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| 14:01.32 | mart_k | Rv`: I think at #kmail, or maybe here. There are also howto's on the internet. |
| 14:01.47 | frog | StevenR, ok, if i insert a pic into the text document there is possible to cut it, to give it back(horuzonlally and veritcally) but i dont see the function, that let me rotate it |
| 14:03.18 | Rv` | mart_k, no body awake on #kmail :) |
| 14:03.54 | mart_k | Rv`: Then you can try here. |
| 14:03.57 | StevenR | frog: you are not making much sense |
| 14:04.59 | Octane | wirwzd, pretty neat, thanks :) |
| 14:05.05 | Rv` | mart_k, I'm reading http://kmail.kde.org/tools.html |
| 14:05.49 | frog | StevenR: oh come on. normally paste the pic top bottom and i wanna rotate it and paste from 'other side' (i.e instead top -bottom i wanna have right -left) |
| 14:06.26 | frog | s/normally/you normally/ |
| 14:06.44 | frog | s/top bottom/from top to bottom |
| 14:07.09 | mart_k | Rv`: Do you know which filter you want to use? |
| 14:07.55 | frog | StevenR: you got it? |
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| 14:08.57 | StevenR | frog: you can't paste things from the other side....that doesn't make sense |
| 14:09.29 | frog | not paste but rotate |
| 14:09.58 | StevenR | you want to rotate a picture, is that all? |
| 14:11.22 | frog | StevenR: it make sense when the width is bigger than the heigth. and yes im askig if its possible to rotate a pic direct in oo |
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| 14:15.14 | Rv` | mart_k, the problem is that even if I got the X-SPAM=yes tag, the mail is not moved |
| 14:15.25 | Rv` | I don't understand why the filter is not applied |
| 14:15.45 | mart_k | Rv`: You already have a filter server-side? |
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| 14:16.57 | Rv` | mart_k, yeah on both sides |
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| 14:17.35 | mart_k | Rv`: Do you retrieve your email with pop (if so, have you set your rule by pop-filters)? |
| 14:20.01 | StevenR | frog: nope, seem oo can't do rotation |
| 14:20.11 | Rv` | mart_k, I know I could use pop filtering, but the problem is that some of my mails tagged by the server as spam are ham |
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| 14:21.57 | mart_k | Rv`: Does your local spamfilter enter the same line to the header if it is spam? |
| 14:22.59 | Felly | I'm trying to use Kontact as an IMAP client. However, I can only view the inbox and no other folders on the IMAP server. Everything works fine on another machine with outlook so I think that it's not a permissions problem. Anybody with a clue ? |
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| 14:24.55 | Rv` | mart_k, I don't see any changes made by the local spamfilter for this mail |
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| 14:26.40 | mart_k | Rv`: Which local filter do you use? |
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| 14:31.18 | Rv` | spamassasin and bogofilter |
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| 14:31.35 | Rv` | I'm trying to improve the detection by modifying the settings |
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| 14:33.45 | grepper | ctrtl-alt bs |
| 14:34.10 | mart_k | Rv`: What are the filter-rules you made? |
| 14:34.19 | wsjunior | thks grepper |
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| 14:36.14 | Rv` | mart_k, for detection I pipe them to spamc |
| 14:36.59 | Rv` | mart_k, and for filtering X-Spam-Flag |
| 14:37.02 | Rv` | =YES |
| 14:37.06 | mart_k | Rv`: Is spamd running? |
| 14:38.22 | Julianyus | is someone having problems sending files with kopete and msn protocol? i am firewalled but i have the port 6891 open |
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| 14:39.04 | StevenR | Julianyus: try with another app, eg gaim to confirm that the problem lies with kopete of your setup |
| 14:39.11 | StevenR | s/of/or |
| 14:39.28 | Julianyus | StevenR: i don't have any other app installed :? |
| 14:39.40 | StevenR | Julianyus: then install one |
| 14:39.53 | Julianyus | but i can send files in irc |
| 14:40.00 | StevenR | it would make your diagnosis much easier |
| 14:40.21 | Julianyus | ok, i'll go to compile gaim |
| 14:40.23 | StevenR | Julianyus: so what if you can send files in irc? |
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| 14:42.13 | EnSo | hello |
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| 14:42.22 | EnSo | im trying to rebuild the srpm of kdebase cos i've added a patch but im getting a "buffer overflow detected" message. how can i avoid that |
| 14:43.30 | Rv` | mart_k, for example, I just receive a spam, tagged by my mail server as spam but by local spamassasin and local bogofilter as none |
| 14:43.34 | Rv` | ham |
| 14:44.09 | Rv` | what kind of filter uses thunderbird ? because when I used it, that was very powerfull |
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| 14:45.49 | Zero_Dogg | how can I change KBabel's background colour? |
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| 14:45.52 | mart_k | Rv`: You can setup spamassasssin so that it marks more emails as spam. |
| 14:46.17 | mart_k | Rv`: I don't know what Thunderbird uses (note: I never used bogofilter). |
| 14:46.30 | Zero_Dogg | Thunderbird uses it's own built-in anti-spam |
| 14:47.19 | mart_k | Rv`: But spamc will do nothing if spamd doesn't run. |
| 14:47.38 | Rv` | mart_k, spamd is running :) |
| 14:48.21 | mart_k | Rv`: And the emails are untouched by spamassassin? (Spamassassin should always touch the header of the email). |
| 14:48.48 | Rv` | /usr/sbin/spamd --create-prefs --max-children 5 --helper-home-dir -d --pidfile=/var/run/spamd.pid |
| 14:49.19 | Rv` | mart_k, on the local detection yes, they are tagged... as ham |
| 14:49.59 | Rv` | whereas they are remotly tagged as spam |
| 14:50.08 | mart_k | Rv`: So you want more rules so it detects more as spam? |
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| 14:50.38 | thiago | EnSo: what error are you getting, exactly? |
| 14:50.55 | Rv` | mart_k, I would like for example that local spamassasins 'learns' from remote |
| 14:51.02 | Rv` | remote's detection |
| 14:51.18 | EnSo | *** buffer overflow detected ***: ./genkdmconf terminated |
| 14:51.25 | mart_k | Rv`: spamassassin can learn if you move you emails manually. |
| 14:51.26 | EnSo | and all the backtrace |
| 14:51.49 | mart_k | Rv`: If you have a folder with spam, and a folder as ham, you can feed it to sa_learn. |
| 14:53.23 | Zero_Dogg | mart_k: ham is mails it's not sure really is spam? |
| 14:55.28 | frog | StevenR, ok,thx |
| 14:56.04 | mart_k | Zero_Dogg: AFAIK, ham = no spam. |
| 14:56.25 | Rv` | mart_k, hold on, I just realized that I don't need local filtering :) the mail server does the detection well |
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| 14:57.01 | Zero_Dogg | mart_k: okay, I'm a thunderbird user so I've never used spamassasin |
| 14:58.04 | mart_k | Rv`: That is of course also possible: just rewrite the rules (maybe use pop-filters?) |
| 14:59.09 | Rv` | mart_k, ya, because I think that having a spam detection system on a desktop is quite heavy |
| 15:01.00 | mart_k | Rv`: Especcially spamassassin (it consumes much CPU-power and memory). |
| 15:01.07 | Rv` | markey, yeah |
| 15:02.07 | Rv` | mart_k, the spam learning process is quite long |
| 15:03.04 | Rv` | mart_k, you know the GMX Spam filter ? |
| 15:03.11 | Julianyus | StevenR: i can send files withgaim |
| 15:03.18 | Rv` | it's weird because it's still installed |
| 15:03.23 | mart_k | Rv`: No, I don't know it. |
| 15:03.58 | mart_k | Rv`: (But I do have it, accourding to KMail) |
| 15:06.19 | StevenR | Julianyus: kopete problem it seems then...what version? |
| 15:06.39 | Julianyus | 0.10.2 |
| 15:06.46 | Julianyus | kde 3.4.1 |
| 15:07.00 | amorphix | hi guys, is it possible to use two soundcards in KDE? |
| 15:07.02 | StevenR | Julianyus: can you send files? can you recieve files? |
| 15:07.18 | StevenR | amorphix: what do you mean by use? |
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| 15:07.18 | Julianyus | i go to try to recieve files |
| 15:09.41 | amorphix | StevenR: i mean like switch between the two soundcards in KDE, so i can use one for certain tasks and then switch to other for others |
| 15:10.03 | Rv` | mart_k, thx a lot :) |
| 15:10.16 | StevenR | amorphix: i reckon that probably depends on the underlying sound system you're using. |
| 15:10.28 | StevenR | Julianyus: and? |
| 15:10.38 | amorphix | I think I'm using oss |
| 15:10.44 | amorphix | is that limited? |
| 15:10.48 | Zero_Dogg | both alsa and oss can have multiple soundcards |
| 15:10.53 | amorphix | oh |
| 15:11.00 | mart_k | Rv`: np |
| 15:11.02 | amorphix | how does one switch between them then? |
| 15:11.03 | Julianyus | i can recieve but i can't send |
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| 15:11.16 | Zero_Dogg | amorphix: that is done in the individual programs |
| 15:11.19 | StevenR | Julianyus: and gaim can do both? |
| 15:11.36 | Julianyus | yes |
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| 15:12.05 | StevenR | Julianyus: so the firewall would seem to be not a problem...maybe try #kopete |
| 15:12.16 | Julianyus | when i send a file with kopete i can see this with netstat: tcp 0 0 *:6891 *:* LISTEN 11184/kopet |
| 15:12.19 | amorphix | oh i see, so you just select which sound device you want to play thru in the app? |
| 15:12.35 | StevenR | Julianyus: i know there have been msn and filesending problems in the past |
| 15:12.46 | Zero_Dogg | amorphix: yup |
| 15:12.47 | StevenR | amorphix: yes |
| 15:12.55 | Julianyus | ok, i'll try in #kopete, thx StevenR |
| 15:12.58 | StevenR | :) |
| 15:13.01 | amorphix | thanks guys |
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| 15:15.38 | geno_ | hi, i'm brand new here. is this the right place to ask about a problem i'm having that might be gaim or might be a kde setting? |
| 15:16.44 | StevenR | geno_: it's unlikly that kde would have any effect on gaim |
| 15:16.48 | geno_ | i've looked at the gaim faq and googled, but couldn't find anything |
| 15:16.48 | PhilRod | geno_: go for it - if it's a gaim problem, we'll tell you |
| 15:17.10 | StevenR | hey PhilRod :) exams all over? |
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| 15:17.54 | PhilRod | StevenR: yeah - they finished a week ago :-) |
| 15:18.03 | PhilRod | I think they went OK, but time will tell |
| 15:18.06 | StevenR | excellent :) |
| 15:18.21 | geno_ | thanks... when i switched from gnome to kde, my gaim windows suddenly started popping up behind the active windows, instead of on top, so i don't know when i have an IM if i'm, for instance, in firefox |
| 15:18.52 | hps | whats the right version from musicbrainz for kdemultimedia/juk? 2.1.x or 2.0.x? |
| 15:18.58 | StevenR | geno_: did that happen in gnome? |
| 15:19.10 | geno_ | it worked properly in gnome |
| 15:19.24 | StevenR | geno_: it sounds like a kwin setting then...look in kcontrol |
| 15:19.44 | geno_ | that's why i think i might have tweaked some setting, but i have no clue which one |
| 15:20.06 | amorphix | hey can anyone of you guys recommend a sound/media player then which allows you to select sound device, because I can't find any |
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| 15:20.19 | StevenR | geno_: i'm not entirely certain..maybe create a specific setting for gaim and have it bring it to top when they appear? |
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| 15:20.36 | PhilRod | geno_: what's your focus policy set to? (control center -> desktop -> window behavior) |
| 15:20.48 | StevenR | amorphix: amarok using xinelib i think, xmms, bmp prolly |
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| 15:20.50 | PhilRod | hit Shift+F1, then click on the combo box for some nice info about the different policies |
| 15:20.52 | hps | amorphix: have you tried amarok? |
| 15:21.09 | amorphix | hps: no i will try that |
| 15:21.10 | geno_ | focus stealing is set to low |
| 15:21.12 | amorphix | thanks guys |
| 15:21.28 | geno_ | from the advanced tab |
| 15:21.47 | geno_ | er, focus stealing prevention |
| 15:22.09 | geno_ | wait, i found focus policy |
| 15:22.27 | geno_ | "focus follows mouse" |
| 15:23.15 | amorphix | i think im a bit out of my depth :( |
| 15:23.20 | amorphix | hps: never |
| 15:23.39 | hps | amorphix: hm? |
| 15:23.59 | geno_ | trying that now |
| 15:24.14 | amorphix | i got XMMS and can see where you change sound devices, but I think you need to have the devices setup properly first eh |
| 15:24.21 | amorphix | its a bit over my head maybe |
| 15:24.46 | amorphix | I'm using OSS, not sure if thats the best way |
| 15:25.16 | Rv` | definetly not :p |
| 15:25.39 | amorphix | hehe i wish i shared your confidence |
| 15:26.06 | hps | amorphix: in the xmms oss driver configuration, you can select the audio device or define the device directly |
| 15:26.08 | Rv` | oss is deprecated |
| 15:26.21 | amorphix | why depreciated? |
| 15:26.35 | hps | amorphix: this should be enough to select another audio device |
| 15:26.48 | Rv` | because it is too old, new sound drivers are ALSA |
| 15:26.53 | amorphix | hps: okay, but how do i know what my other soundcard dev is called? |
| 15:27.07 | amorphix | what advantage does ALSA have over OSS? |
| 15:27.11 | geno_ | bingo! |
| 15:27.19 | geno_ | that did it, thanks! |
| 15:27.19 | Rv` | amorphix, newer card support |
| 15:27.25 | amorphix | oh |
| 15:27.38 | amorphix | my cards are old so i guess i should stay with OSS which is working at least |
| 15:27.46 | Rv` | amorphix, ya |
| 15:28.20 | Rv` | if your soundcard is old, and you're not looking for newer features, keep oss |
| 15:28.27 | Zero_Dogg | amorphix: if alsa works with your card changing to that might be an idea, but not a requirement |
| 15:28.32 | amorphix | okay |
| 15:29.01 | amorphix | I think i will avoid the hassle since why fix what isnt broke eh |
| 15:29.18 | Zero_Dogg | good idea :) |
| 15:29.21 | amorphix | i just need to be able to use my other soundcard tho |
| 15:29.32 | Rv` | alsa has software mixing for example |
| 15:29.35 | Zero_Dogg | If it's not broken, don't fix it (or even better: If it's not broken take it apart and find out why) |
| 15:29.37 | amorphix | it has optical sound output which i need for recording |
| 15:29.55 | amorphix | hehe |
| 15:30.42 | amorphix | how does OSS know which soundcard to use if you have two in your system? it seems to have selected and given priority to my onboard sound system, rather than my PCI card |
| 15:30.52 | Zero_Dogg | well, in xmms -> output plugins -> preferences for the OSS output plugin |
| 15:30.56 | amorphix | that could mean the PCI one is not supported? |
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| 15:31.01 | Zero_Dogg | nope |
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| 15:31.10 | Zero_Dogg | your onboard is /dev/dsp and your other is then /dev/dsp1 |
| 15:31.16 | amorphix | oh! |
| 15:31.26 | Soyburg | how can I take a screenshot of the kdm loginscreen? |
| 15:31.27 | grepper | amorphix: you don't want to use onboard at all ? |
| 15:31.49 | amorphix | i think its better to switch to my pci card and just use that one |
| 15:32.10 | grepper | amorphix: you should be able to disable the onboard one in the bios, no ? |
| 15:32.12 | amorphix | wont use the onboard one |
| 15:32.17 | grepper | I can with mine at least |
| 15:32.23 | amorphix | i think so |
| 15:33.00 | Rv` | bye |
| 15:33.14 | amorphix | its working guys! |
| 15:33.18 | amorphix | thanks alot |
| 15:33.26 | Zero_Dogg | :) |
| 15:33.37 | amorphix | phew so simple, i may have overcomplicated it |
| 15:33.52 | Zero_Dogg | remember that you've just changed it for that single app |
| 15:34.02 | amorphix | wow my pci card is far superior sound to the onboard |
| 15:34.04 | Zero_Dogg | you might want to disable the onboard in BIOS if you're not going to use that one at all |
| 15:34.10 | amorphix | oh yes |
| 15:34.14 | Zero_Dogg | onboard sound usually sucks in my experience |
| 15:34.29 | amorphix | :P |
| 15:34.46 | amorphix | only one small problem.. |
| 15:34.57 | amorphix | no red light coming out of the optical fibre cable :( |
| 15:35.01 | amorphix | not a good sign |
| 15:35.14 | amorphix | is this even supported in Linux driver i wonder |
| 15:36.09 | Zero_Dogg | you might want alsa :P |
| 15:36.24 | Zero_Dogg | I can't help with that though, never used optical fiber cables for sound |
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| 15:37.59 | Soyburg | how can I take a screenshot of the kdm login screen? is there such a thing as with ksplash --test? or any alternative way? |
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| 15:40.07 | Soyburg | sorry for asking. I found it. |
| 15:40.15 | Soyburg | bye |
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| 15:42.28 | peppelorum | Is there any nice application for wiewing fonts out there (except Konqueror)? |
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| 15:43.11 | grepper | kfontview ? |
| 15:45.50 | peppelorum | grepper: it doesn't appear to use kio-slaves (all the fonts are in zip-files and Konqueror crashes when tryin to create a preview) |
| 15:46.00 | peppelorum | I will report it later on;-) |
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| 15:53.28 | meth0s | anyone experience korganizer crashing when adding the address resource from kaddressbook? |
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| 16:13.56 | m-e-t | hi. can anyone tell me how to let all the opera-plugins use arts instead of directly using /dev/dsp? |
| 16:14.15 | PhilRod | run "artsdsp opera" |
| 16:14.20 | PhilRod | instead of just "opera" |
| 16:14.27 | m-e-t | ah |
| 16:15.13 | PhilRod | I guess that would work, although it depends exactly how opera runs the plugins |
| 16:15.25 | PhilRod | if it runs them as a separate process it might not work |
| 16:15.36 | m-e-t | it does work. thanks alot! |
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| 16:16.42 | Frost^ | can anyone please open the run dialog for a second? |
| 16:17.06 | PhilRod | done |
| 16:17.21 | Frost^ | look at the run button next to the cancel button |
| 16:17.29 | Frost^ | isn't it smaller than the cancel button? |
| 16:17.57 | PhilRod | narrower (since the text is shorter), but the same height |
| 16:18.12 | PhilRod | well, maybe a pixel smaller, since the run button is disabled |
| 16:18.18 | Frost^ | try entering some text so that it highlights |
| 16:18.58 | Frost^ | could it be the plastik theme then? I don't know |
| 16:19.03 | Frost^ | looks smaller to me |
| 16:19.11 | PhilRod | use xmag to check |
| 16:19.35 | PhilRod | ok, it looks a slightly different size, but that's cos it's highlighted as the default button |
| 16:21.10 | Frost^ | ah yes that's it I guess |
| 16:21.44 | Frost^ | thanks |
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| 16:29.47 | youssef | hello |
| 16:29.56 | youssef | is there a channel for knowledge ? |
| 16:30.36 | PhilRod | we have tons of knowledge, on many different topics |
| 16:30.44 | sredna | Hi PhilRod :-) |
| 16:30.51 | youssef | I mean the program "knowledge" |
| 16:31.11 | PhilRod | s/a little bit/lots/ :-) |
| 16:31.37 | youssef | http://developer.kde.org/~danimo/screenies/knowledge_preview4.png |
| 16:32.18 | PhilRod | it's probably in extragear or playground in svn |
| 16:32.24 | PhilRod | that's all I know |
| 16:32.31 | phlux | portupgrade -rR kde-lite-3.3.2 should upgrade me to kde-lite-3.4.1 right? |
| 16:34.32 | youssef | see you later |
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| 16:36.33 | plfiorini | hello |
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| 16:37.47 | plfiorini | how do you plan to port kdesktop to qt4 since Qt::X11ParentRelative is not available? |
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| 16:45.32 | thiago | plfiorini: ask in #kde4-devel |
| 16:45.43 | thiago | but not many people are there now |
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| 16:47.01 | Zalamander | good morning (or whenever) thiago :-) |
| 16:48.08 | plfiorini | thiago, thanks |
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| 16:50.08 | thiago | hey Zal |
| 16:50.11 | user_maniac | hello |
| 16:50.21 | thiago | it's 13:50, but it's also Sunday, so morning it is |
| 16:53.25 | Zalamander | hehe |
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| 17:09.16 | artemio | hey all! |
| 17:09.52 | artemio | i just wanted to ask: in kde 3.3.2, is there a way to make the konqueror not ask for confirmation on uploading a file via HTTP? |
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| 17:29.04 | David23_ | hi |
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| 17:29.26 | David23_ | I have a problem here. media:/ is empty, my devices are gone. how can that be? |
| 17:29.42 | Frost^ | David23_, are hal and dbus running? |
| 17:29.50 | David23_ | hal is running, yes |
| 17:30.12 | Frost^ | maybe you upgraded it and forgot to restart the service/ |
| 17:30.13 | Frost^ | ? |
| 17:30.14 | David23_ | and the devices were there before.-.. i think they are gone since my last mahow update or even since i installed hal |
| 17:30.29 | David23_ | nope, i restarted just noew |
| 17:30.30 | David23_ | now |
| 17:30.59 | David23_ | david@fosters ~ $ ps aux |grep dbus |
| 17:30.59 | David23_ | 102 6666 0.0 0.2 3360 1524 ? Ss 21:15 0:00 /usr/bin/dbus-daemon-1 --system |
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| 17:31.07 | David23_ | david@fosters ~ $ ps aux |grep hald |
| 17:31.07 | David23_ | root 13053 0.1 0.4 3856 2388 ? Ss 21:28 0:00 /usr/sbin/hald |
| 17:31.10 | David23_ | both running |
| 17:31.45 | David23_ | and hal obviuosly works, because if i switch on my usb drive it detects it and puts it in media.. just... my non removable devices like cdrom and hard disks are gone! |
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| 17:32.02 | Frost^ | hmm |
| 17:32.35 | Frost^ | well I'm not the expert here but whenever I have similar issues it's beacuse I upgraded hal/dbus without restarting |
| 17:34.25 | David23_ | fosters david # /etc/init.d/dbus restart && /etc/init.d/hald restart |
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| 17:34.28 | David23_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:34.31 | David23_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:34.35 | David23_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:34.38 | David23_ | no effect |
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| 17:35.18 | Frost^ | I always restarted KDE after as well... only if you're up for it. if you sure it's not it then don't, again, I'm not the expert. |
| 17:35.31 | David23_ | seems like konqueror/kde isn recognizing any device thats in fstab |
| 17:36.41 | Frost^ | maybe you don't have reading permissions for it? |
| 17:37.15 | David23_ | another question: copy processes seem to take a lot of responsivness from the system... starting firefox while copying from one harddisk to another is a pain... is there a kde setting to lower the priority of copy processes` |
| 17:38.03 | Frost^ | well it's an I/O process.. maybe you can use hdparm settings? |
| 17:38.09 | Frost^ | (again, totally guessing) |
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| 17:38.30 | David23_ | hm, anybody here who _has_ a clue? ;) |
| 17:38.36 | David23_ | just joking |
| 17:38.42 | Frost^ | hehe |
| 17:38.47 | Frost^ | I'm learning as I go ;) |
| 17:38.55 | grepper | David23_: look at top while you are doing it and "get" a clue :) |
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| 17:40.19 | David23_ | okay, i'll check the faq again, but i doubt my issue is in there ;)( |
| 17:40.37 | grepper | erm, the program "top" :P |
| 17:41.26 | David23_ | ah okay |
| 17:42.19 | Frost^ | David23_, what distro are you using? |
| 17:42.24 | David23_ | gentoo |
| 17:42.31 | Frost^ | ah ok |
| 17:42.57 | David23_ | urgs, kde didn't like me to restart hal & dbus while it was running |
| 17:42.59 | David23_ | brb# |
| 17:43.06 | Frost^ | told ya.. |
| 17:43.10 | Frost^ | hope it works |
| 17:43.49 | David23_ | oh no, have to wait till the cd is burned ;) |
| 17:44.07 | David23_ | Frost^: no, it was running before, i just restarted it |
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| 17:44.49 | David23_ | ah, hald & dbus seem to sync my fstab |
| 17:44.54 | David23_ | /dev/sdb1 /media/TREKSTOR vfat user,exec,noauto,utf8,managed 0 0 |
| 17:45.04 | David23_ | this is the entry created for my usb hard drive |
| 17:45.07 | grepper | David23_: anyway, you can renice a process with "renice" - not sure if that will help your copy problem |
| 17:45.15 | David23_ | it contains managed... is that a keyword for hal? |
| 17:45.52 | David23_ | grepper: yes I know that, the question was, if there is a setting in kde to renice all copy processes to .. say .. 10 or so |
| 17:46.29 | grepper | not that I have ever seen |
| 17:46.33 | David23_ | in my opinion all gui relevant parts of kde should have a nice value of -5 ... maybe that would help |
| 17:46.51 | grepper | that is handled "nicely" by the 2.6 kernel :) |
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| 17:48.02 | isai | hi |
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| 17:48.18 | David23_ | grepper: still not nice enough i'd say |
| 17:48.20 | isai | can kcalc be put in RPN mode? (its what im used to) |
| 17:48.32 | grepper | David23_: I guess because they are both user events |
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| 17:49.10 | grepper | getting a faster computer/better disks will help |
| 17:49.17 | grepper | </obviousnous> |
| 17:49.31 | grepper | I have no problems on mine when copying files |
| 17:50.03 | grepper | file a wishlist if you feel strongly about it I guess |
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| 17:53.42 | grepper | David23_: only similar wishlist I found in a quick search: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=69749 |
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| 17:54.31 | grepper | and: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=61166 |
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| 17:55.15 | drac | Can I make KDE 3.4.1 (on Gentoo) use remote ESD instead of local ALSA for all sounds? |
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| 17:55.43 | drac | Like, ARTS -> remote ESD -> plim plom :) |
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| 17:56.05 | Flendor | Hello. |
| 17:56.33 | David23_ | thanks |
| 17:56.45 | Slackman | hi, can anyone tell me why some icons in kde don't appear transparent, even when i load the .png up in gimp and its transparent |
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| 17:57.41 | jrloki | Slackman, maybe they are not interlaced? |
| 18:00.09 | Slackman | jrloki: does that make a difference? |
| 18:01.26 | jrloki | not really sure. a nother thing could be the colors. you have to switch to less colors |
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| 18:04.02 | Slackman | jrloki: is there a guide somewhere so i can make sure these images match |
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| 18:05.53 | jrloki | whoa, no idea. better google for that |
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| 18:21.37 | rr72 | grepper~ thx again |
| 18:30.27 | drac | Can you make ARTS use remote ESD instead of local ALSA ? |
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| 18:33.22 | rr72 | ni |
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| 18:40.41 | gnoob | how come i can type "azureus" in konsole and it starts just fine but when using the KDE menu it does not start? It used to work. |
| 18:41.46 | HuntsMan | different $PATH maybe ? |
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| 18:47.48 | gnoob | HuntsMan; how do i check/set that? |
| 18:48.50 | HuntsMan | see where the app is installed |
| 18:48.57 | HuntsMan | and provide the entire path to the app |
| 18:49.05 | HuntsMan | like /usr/local/this/another/bin/azureus |
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| 18:50.34 | rr72 | hey josue |
| 18:50.48 | gnoob | right, i guess that would work. But there has to be a reason that it does not have the right path set as a default to check. |
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| 18:51.05 | kosue | hi rr72 |
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| 18:51.42 | kosue | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:51.59 | rr72 | shoot |
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| 18:52.29 | caleb | hey there used to be some gamma sliders, but now that I upgraded, they seem to be gone |
| 18:52.43 | caleb | in the KDE control center |
| 18:53.30 | kosue | somebody know make the icons to be litle |
| 18:53.32 | kosue | ? |
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| 18:54.46 | caleb | kosue: which icons? all of them? |
| 18:55.05 | rr72 | change ur res maybe? |
| 18:55.16 | kosue | in the desktop |
| 18:55.24 | caleb | either that or go to the KDE control center and go to icons and choose a smaller size |
| 18:55.54 | caleb | yeah, here it is in detail: |
| 18:56.00 | caleb | KDE control center |
| 18:56.10 | kosue | ok i heve suse |
| 18:56.10 | kosue | have |
| 18:56.10 | caleb | then on the left pane choose Appearance & Themes>Icons |
| 18:56.29 | caleb | then on the right go to the "Advanced" tab and there you can choose icon sizes for any icon set |
| 18:56.40 | caleb | well it should still have the control center |
| 18:56.41 | caleb | try typing the command "kcontrol" on a shell |
| 18:57.27 | kosue | i so new in linux i like so much |
| 18:57.39 | caleb | hehe |
| 18:57.45 | caleb | better than windows eh? |
| 18:58.17 | kosue | yes so better |
| 18:58.26 | caleb | so did you find the KDE control center? |
| 18:58.27 | rr72 | everyone uses windows tho. most programs are written for windows too |
| 18:58.36 | caleb | you may have to open a terminal window and type the command 'kcontrol' |
| 18:58.46 | caleb | most programs that cost money are. most free programs are written for linux :) |
| 18:59.11 | caleb | and, no not everyone uses windows ;) |
| 18:59.29 | kosue | ok its run |
| 18:59.33 | caleb | okay |
| 18:59.46 | caleb | now go to the left, and expand "Appearance & Themes" and choose "Icons" |
| 18:59.56 | kosue | in the desktop right? |
| 19:00.07 | caleb | no on the window you got when you typed kcontrol |
| 19:00.20 | kosue | ok |
| 19:00.23 | kosue | i make |
| 19:00.29 | caleb | okay |
| 19:00.29 | rr72 | most average users don't know even of nix* |
| 19:00.45 | caleb | then on the right, click the "Advanced" tab near the top of the window |
| 19:00.49 | caleb | you mean *nix? ;) |
| 19:01.06 | rr72 | yeah |
| 19:01.07 | rr72 | hehe |
| 19:01.23 | caleb | true, but that's just because there's not a lot of advertising and media and stuff associated with *nix |
| 19:01.36 | caleb | doesn't make it any worse than windows. in fact it beats the living crap out of windows. |
| 19:01.59 | rr72 | amd dueron cpu? |
| 19:02.36 | caleb | um I have a 1.8 GHZ...I forgot what model lol |
| 19:02.58 | caleb | vendor_id : AuthenticAMD |
| 19:02.58 | caleb | cpu family : 6 |
| 19:02.58 | caleb | model : 8 |
| 19:02.58 | caleb | model name : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2200+ |
| 19:02.58 | caleb | stepping : 1 |
| 19:02.59 | caleb | cpu MHz : 1797.676 |
| 19:03.01 | caleb | cache size : 256 KB |
| 19:03.16 | rr72 | oo |
| 19:03.17 | kosue | i have too hehe |
| 19:03.36 | rr72 | i have a duron in my debian box |
| 19:03.36 | caleb | how are you doing, kosue? |
| 19:03.40 | rr72 | this is my SuSE |
| 19:03.46 | rr72 | coppermine 850 |
| 19:03.48 | kosue | i only work with AMD |
| 19:03.53 | rr72 | yah baby |
| 19:03.57 | caleb | sweet....I've never used Debian myself but I hear it's the closest to what Linus originally intended with Linux. |
| 19:04.05 | rr72 | no idea |
| 19:04.09 | rr72 | never heard that |
| 19:04.13 | rr72 | gentoo? |
| 19:04.14 | kosue | ok i make it |
| 19:04.28 | caleb | well that's just what my cousin says but he's an expert with Linux...he's the one that got me started. |
| 19:04.51 | caleb | you got to the advanced tab, kosue? there should be controls on there to set any icon sizes that you want. |
| 19:05.03 | kosue | i change the side of icons |
| 19:05.11 | rr72 | caleb~ fodara? |
| 19:05.14 | kosue | thank you |
| 19:05.24 | caleb | you're welcome :) |
| 19:05.29 | caleb | yeah I'm on Fedora Core 4 |
| 19:05.34 | rr72 | oo |
| 19:05.37 | caleb | I like it |
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| 19:05.45 | caleb | it's a lot faster than FC2 which I upgraded from :-P |
| 19:05.51 | aseigo | caleb: heh ... no idea where your cousin got that idea. |
| 19:05.53 | caleb | the new KDE seems pretty stable too :) |
| 19:06.04 | kosue | it's very good? |
| 19:06.08 | caleb | aseigo: really? have you used Debian before? |
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| 19:06.21 | aseigo | caleb: yes. |
| 19:06.23 | caleb | kosue: yes, Fedora Core 4 is a great OS for either beginners or experts alike, IMHO. |
| 19:06.24 | kosue | i want to Yelow Dog |
| 19:06.35 | aseigo | caleb: i have it installed on one machine here right now =) |
| 19:06.36 | caleb | aseigo: what do you think of Debian? |
| 19:06.52 | aseigo | caleb: pure debian is ok, but the release cycle is screwed |
| 19:07.01 | caleb | kosue: I've never used Yellow Dog but I've heard it's decent |
| 19:07.09 | aseigo | caleb: i'm actually using kubuntu for my debian needs these days |
| 19:07.36 | caleb | aseigo: what is kubuntu exactly? just KDE-specialized ubuntu or what? |
| 19:07.52 | aseigo | caleb: yes |
| 19:08.25 | caleb | so does anybody know what has happened to the gamma sliders that used to be available in the Peripherals>Monitor section of the control center? |
| 19:08.39 | caleb | err Peripherals>Display rather |
| 19:09.52 | aseigo | they're still there ... if your install doesn't have them, then your kde was built w/out support for gamma changes |
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| 19:10.47 | kosue | caleb: when i recent installed the suse linux and finish the installation i put my motorola c550 it's working without drivers |
| 19:11.00 | kosue | it's so be great you know |
| 19:11.10 | caleb | well that's strange. I did an "everything" install and back when I was on FC2 it gave me the gamma sliders straight-up. |
| 19:11.58 | caleb | kosue: that's awesome, SuSE is known for good hardware support I believe. |
| 19:12.11 | caleb | you probably wouldn't have too much trouble with it on Fedora either. |
| 19:12.22 | kosue | yes |
| 19:12.45 | kosue | you rr72? on suse |
| 19:12.52 | rr72 | yes |
| 19:12.54 | rr72 | and debian |
| 19:13.11 | kosue | i so be happy |
| 19:13.15 | caleb | I dual-boot Fedora Core 4 and Windows 2000. The only thing I use Windows 2000 for is Quicken :-P |
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| 19:13.31 | rr72 | i have a seppoat win 2k pro |
| 19:13.59 | rr72 | for games |
| 19:14.16 | kosue | because the micrsoft windows discousting |
| 19:14.17 | caleb | I'm not as much into the heavy gaming as I used to be |
| 19:14.28 | caleb | I love games but I prefer freeware or abandonware |
| 19:14.34 | caleb | kosue: amen to that. |
| 19:14.46 | rr72 | i do little games |
| 19:14.50 | kosue | me too i have win xp |
| 19:14.54 | rr72 | nothing multi |
| 19:14.58 | rr72 | exept aa |
| 19:15.16 | caleb | aa? *doesn't play games much* |
| 19:15.22 | kosue | jesus christ is very shit |
| 19:15.38 | kosue | win xp |
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| 19:16.31 | kosue | i have the ati radeon 9250 for only game play |
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| 19:17.05 | caleb | oh cool I found a way to set the gamme from a command line |
| 19:17.07 | caleb | brb |
| 19:18.00 | rr72 | caleb~ americas army |
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| 19:18.47 | kosue | ok people i have to go |
| 19:19.16 | kosue | see later ok |
| 19:19.22 | rr72 | l8r |
| 19:20.20 | kosue | i go see my girlfriend jejeje |
| 19:20.23 | kosue | bye |
| 19:23.16 | caleb | cool |
| 19:24.09 | rr72 | they need to make little kosues |
| 19:24.11 | rr72 | ;) |
| 19:24.20 | caleb | lol |
| 19:24.37 | caleb | I so be happy |
| 19:24.38 | caleb | :) |
| 19:24.46 | rr72 | hehe |
| 19:25.08 | caleb | well I found out there's a command "xgamma" for changing the gamma |
| 19:25.13 | rr72 | i guess hes not from amercia |
| 19:25.22 | caleb | no |
| 19:25.33 | caleb | but you could understand what he was saying |
| 19:25.40 | caleb | I've run into people that just spoke total gibberish |
| 19:25.47 | caleb | like "how you see now I know never KDE?" |
| 19:26.09 | rr72 | haha |
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| 19:26.51 | rr72 | ima gonna go and finifh codin my bot. needs ro switch the server it ping out wa 2 much |
| 19:26.53 | rr72 | ;) |
| 19:28.43 | caleb | ok |
| 19:30.14 | CondorDes | The location bar has been broken for me for the past few days in the SVN build... |
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| 19:31.11 | Filip^ | I've a small question regarding desktop refreshing. I've set up NFS shares for the desktop directories, so that the desktop can function as gateways between the different computers on the LAN. |
| 19:31.33 | Filip^ | Unfortunately, refresh desktop doesn't re-read the icons that are supposed to be on the desktop. How do I do this? |
| 19:32.08 | Filip^ | I've noticed that creating a file does force KDE to reconsider the file icons. |
| 19:40.40 | rr72 | is the a debian specific kde site for wallpaper and what not? |
| 19:41.43 | caleb | rr72: I don't know but one thing you may wanna try is going to kde-look.org and searching for "debian" :) |
| 19:41.57 | rr72 | i know ive done taht |
| 19:42.02 | rr72 | i was just wonderin |
| 19:42.07 | rr72 | a whole site |
| 19:42.19 | caleb | and really any standard wallpaper will work on KDE so if you just look for debian wallpaper *shrug* |
| 19:43.09 | caleb | http://www.glatozen.org/wallpaper/debian.php |
| 19:43.12 | caleb | check some of those out :-D |
| 19:45.21 | Dhraakellian | any jpg, png, etc should be usable for a wallpaper, although you probably do want an appropriate size |
| 19:45.27 | Dhraakellian | svg works too |
| 19:45.47 | caleb | what is svg anyway? wallpaper-wise? |
| 19:46.00 | Dhraakellian | s |
| 19:46.04 | Dhraakellian | scaled vector graphics |
| 19:46.05 | rr72 | o |
| 19:46.06 | rr72 | k |
| 19:46.37 | caleb | scaled vector graphics? |
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| 19:47.06 | Filip^ | a description of an image in terms of the objects, not the pixels |
| 19:47.23 | Dhraakellian | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svg |
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| 19:48.16 | caleb | oh cool, thanks |
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| 19:49.00 | Dhraakellian | http://kde-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=7 |
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| 20:05.29 | bimbo | anyone here using kmail with clamav antivirus? |
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| 20:20.29 | ScrwLoose | Evenin' |
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| 20:25.48 | ScrwLoose | I run Slackware and kde 3, and every time i download a file in Konqueror the download dialog is no longer presented. |
| 20:27.05 | troy | been a long tmie since I've tried to install anything that's supposed to be a 'desktop friendly' distro (been using freebsd for years, and slackware before that)... What would you folks recommend for good hardware and KDE support? |
| 20:27.18 | troy | I've already tested the hardward and confirmed it working through knoppix |
| 20:27.39 | troy | s/hardward/hardware |
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| 20:28.54 | bimbo | ok so I'm having a problem with kmail and clamav |
| 20:29.23 | bimbo | whenever I receive an email I think it's not being checked, since I don't even get the flag X-Virus-Check: NO in the header of my email |
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| 20:33.18 | happyb | hi |
| 20:33.23 | happyb | any kuickshow users in here? |
| 20:33.40 | happyb | can you launch quickshow right into a slideshow? |
| 20:33.50 | happyb | oops.../s/quickshow/kuickshow |
| 20:35.24 | happyb | got it..thanks |
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| 20:59.56 | FabioDeb | Hi to everybody!!! |
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| 21:00.33 | FabioDeb | I don't speak well the English because I am Italian |
| 21:00.42 | annma | no problem |
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| 21:02.24 | AgentDrex | what is the minimum system requirements to run kde? |
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| 21:03.10 | AgentDrex | the reason i ask is that when i play a video...it drops frames...unless i have the video in a small window...i dont even dare fullscreen it |
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| 21:04.00 | AgentDrex | windows 2000 played the videos fine when i had 96 megs ram...but nothing in kde wanted to run it fine...i added 128 megs more ram and still frames drop |
| 21:04.09 | FabioDeb | I have a problem: how does it make him the automatic execution of the programs on the kde? |
| 21:04.35 | AgentDrex | huh? |
| 21:04.41 | annma | FabioDeb: you mean to have programs that start when KDE starts? |
| 21:05.10 | FabioDeb | "automatic execution" on the kde as he does? |
| 21:05.49 | AgentDrex | i tried mplayer running it from the console...but nothing seemed to work there either...i tried frame buffer...but that would just show a blank screen |
| 21:05.54 | FabioDeb | annma <--- yes |
| 21:06.02 | AgentDrex | then i tried ascii |
| 21:06.07 | AgentDrex | that didnt work either |
| 21:06.14 | AgentDrex | i do have aalib |
| 21:06.29 | AgentDrex | then i tried svga...nothing |
| 21:06.38 | annma | FabioDeb: when you log out from kde, leave the programs open |
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| 21:06.46 | annma | then they'll restart next time |
| 21:06.57 | AgentDrex | sdl worked but it was some funky colors not any video you could see...and then it froze the puter |
| 21:07.00 | AgentDrex | so im at wits end |
| 21:08.12 | FabioDeb | do I have to open a file when the kde departs... as he does? |
| 21:08.15 | AgentDrex | so again...what is kde requirements |
| 21:09.27 | AgentDrex | or should i ask over in mplayer? |
| 21:10.37 | FabioDeb | excuse I correct me to me |
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| 21:10.45 | FabioDeb | how can I open a file to the start of the kde automatically? |
| 21:11.05 | FabioDeb | have you understood? |
| 21:11.29 | annma | FabioDeb: what file? |
| 21:11.54 | FabioDeb | it is a presentation of open office |
| 21:12.37 | FabioDeb | OpenOffice* |
| 21:13.05 | annma | put oowriter in the Autostart folder maybe |
| 21:13.58 | FabioDeb | where is the autostart found? |
| 21:15.34 | annma | in .kde in your home |
| 21:17.00 | FabioDeb | ^_^ thanks!!!!!!...now I try... |
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| 21:20.20 | viktor | Hi, was in here earlier today. When I try to go to a web page with konqueror, it says something like : Could not launch io-slave. kio_http error. |
| 21:20.29 | viktor | Now I have some new information |
| 21:20.46 | viktor | I works when I run konqueror as root |
| 21:21.14 | viktor | And it also works if I run konqueror in icewm for example. |
| 21:21.35 | viktor | But as a normal user i KDE it doesn't. Can you help me? |
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| 21:21.46 | kingsley | do you know of a flash viewer for konqueror? |
| 21:22.05 | kingsley | anyone? |
| 21:22.10 | kingsley | or a flash plugin? |
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| 21:22.55 | kingsley | n/m |
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| 21:23.10 | rr73 | hey all |
| 21:23.17 | spuds | hey now |
| 21:23.43 | rr73 | am i supposed to be able to listen to 2 dif things? |
| 21:23.50 | rr73 | i can do taht on my suse box |
| 21:24.01 | rr73 | like xmms and amorak? |
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| 21:25.29 | spuds | Anyone know how cursor installation works. |
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| 21:25.47 | rr73 | sorry spuds |
| 21:25.54 | rr73 | did someone reply? |
| 21:26.05 | spuds | There seems to be cursor theme import capability but I can't find out file type or the like |
| 21:26.13 | spuds | rr73 : nope |
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| 21:27.26 | rr73 | is there a way to fix it to be like my suse box? |
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| 21:28.25 | rr73 | canllaith_X: u busy? |
| 21:28.37 | arinel | I have problems when I want to display russian characters either in the browser or in KDE applications.. I tried to switch the language to Russian, but I see only big squares instead of letters. How do I change this so it would display russian characters? |
| 21:28.50 | spuds | rr73 : what are your sound settings according to control center |
| 21:29.26 | rr73 | do i want full duplex? |
| 21:29.42 | spuds | rr73: sounds like (no pun intended) you would be better off seaching for answers according to OSS or ALSA |
| 21:29.55 | annma | arinel: are you sure you have cyrillic fonts? |
| 21:30.17 | rr73 | do i even have alsa installed? |
| 21:30.39 | arinel | annma: i dont know ;) |
| 21:30.59 | annma | arinel: then check please |
| 21:31.03 | arinel | annma: should I change all the fonts to those that have russian characters in it? |
| 21:31.07 | annma | ask in your distro channel, arinel |
| 21:31.13 | arinel | annma: ok, thanx |
| 21:31.27 | annma | arinel: no, you need to have the cyrillic fonts installed |
| 21:31.33 | rr73 | spuds: no i dont |
| 21:31.36 | annma | then they'll be used when appropriate |
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| 21:32.14 | spuds | rr73: what's the current distro |
| 21:32.35 | arinel | annma: and where can i get such fonts? |
| 21:32.41 | annma | arinel: distro? |
| 21:32.50 | rr73 | debian |
| 21:32.58 | arinel | annma: Slackware 10.1 |
| 21:33.15 | rr73 | im configuring alsa no |
| 21:33.17 | annma | arinel: ask in #slackware then about cyrillic fnts |
| 21:33.24 | arinel | ok, thanx |
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| 21:36.05 | rr73 | alsa helps to b installed ;)\ |
| 21:36.07 | rr73 | thx |
| 21:36.17 | rr73 | illbe on l8r my other nick after hw |
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| 21:37.36 | Virtual | is there anyway to set my text editor not to create a backup when I edit a file ? |
| 21:38.18 | annma | yes of course |
| 21:38.23 | annma | what text editor is it? |
| 21:38.26 | Virtual | Kate or KWRite |
| 21:38.43 | Virtual | this are my favorite, if I can set any of them it would be swell |
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| 21:40.29 | Virtual | annma: found the setting |
| 21:40.30 | annma | Virtual: in Settings -> Configure Kate |
| 21:40.32 | Virtual | thank you |
| 21:40.35 | annma | in Open/Save |
| 21:40.38 | annma | :) |
| 21:41.00 | Virtual | how naughty of me, asking before reading or searching... sorry for that |
| 21:41.51 | Virtual | now something I really didn`t find the setting fore, how to configure that Kate to be my main editor, I mean text file automaticly open with that one ? |
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| 21:47.39 | PhilOut | Virtual: control center -> kde components -> file associations |
| 21:47.56 | PhilOut | associate kate with the text/plain mimetype |
| 21:48.48 | Virtual | thank you |
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| 22:14.41 | FabioDeb | hi, excuse me... I have a problem |
| 22:16.02 | FabioDeb | how do I do to copy the hd of hd? |
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| 22:16.16 | thingy | eh? |
| 22:16.17 | jql | copy? |
| 22:16.21 | grepper | hd ? |
| 22:16.25 | FabioDeb | how do I do to duplicate a hd? |
| 22:17.06 | jql | are they identical drives (model/size?), and is this on linux/bsd/unix? |
| 22:17.41 | FabioDeb | I have a hd with linux and an empty hd, I want to copy the hd with linux on the empty hd |
| 22:18.06 | FabioDeb | i have a simplymepis distibutions |
| 22:18.31 | Skrot | Does the get hot new stuff thingy have a "main" client? |
| 22:18.32 | thingy | well, one method would be to create a bootable cd like this: http://ubcd.sourceforge.net/ which already has lots of useful tools, including a HD cloning tool. Then boot from the cd, and clone the hdd |
| 22:18.33 | jql | if they're identical drives, I'd boot into single-user mode and use dd to copy it over |
| 22:18.45 | jql | if not, I'd do thingy's thing |
| 22:19.56 | FabioDeb | the hd is identical |
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| 22:21.17 | FabioDeb | wanting to try with the education dd, as to write in the options? |
| 22:22.12 | FabioDeb | example: dd if=?? of=?? |
| 22:22.39 | HuntsMan | dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdb |
| 22:23.11 | thingy | FabioDeb: a binary copy via dd would take a long time...waste of time transferring the non data bits of the hdd |
| 22:23.48 | FabioDeb | I have 3 partitions therefore the disks to be copied are 3 |
| 22:25.14 | thingy | FabioDeb: look at this http://www.partimage.org/. Partimage is included on several rescue cdroms(a list is at the end of the web page) and you can use it to clone your disk quicker than the dd method. |
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| 22:27.41 | FabioDeb | how do I do to know the name of the physical disk? |
| 22:28.19 | thingy | FabioDeb: look at the output of "dmesg" e.g. dmesg | less |
| 22:28.55 | thingy | FabioDeb: search for hd[a-z] devices if you have ides disks only |
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| 22:32.01 | EnSo | hello |
| 22:32.24 | FabioDeb | ^^ thanks!!!... now I try... |
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| 22:38.16 | sarah03 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:38.17 | sarah03 | Ack. |
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| 22:57.00 | derekkite | which module has the wc3 testing stuff for konq? |
| 22:59.33 | phlux | :o |
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| 23:20.45 | ritalin | afternoon |
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| 23:27.43 | ritalin | long ass compile time today ;( |
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| 23:35.38 | FabioDeb | Night to everybody!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 23:35.57 | FabioDeb | ^^ thanks still |
| 23:36.00 | FabioDeb | <<<<<< |
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