| 00:00.07 | mki4ok_ | THIS IS A CHAT NO |
| 00:00.17 | lauri | mki4ok_: yes, but we don't speak spanish |
| 00:00.23 | canllaith | gday all |
| 00:00.31 | mki4ok_ | I KNOW |
| 00:00.36 | mki4ok_ | AND |
| 00:00.51 | lauri | and, calm down |
| 00:00.59 | Venson | lo canllaith |
| 00:01.03 | lauri | and turn off your caps lock SO YOU ARE NOT SHOUTING |
| 00:01.29 | Tarantulafudge | mki4ok_, todo habla ingles solomente |
| 00:01.38 | mki4ok_ | LOL |
| 00:01.42 | mki4ok_ | JAJJAJA |
| 00:01.48 | mki4ok_ | DAN RISA CON EL ESPAÑOL |
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| 00:02.01 | canllaith | gday ven |
| 00:02.18 | canllaith | hrm, tab failed me there |
| 00:02.19 | Tarantulafudge | mki4ok_, yo no habla esponol muy bien |
| 00:02.29 | Tarantulafudge | espanol* |
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| 00:02.36 | lauri | mki4ok_: what is your problem? |
| 00:03.02 | Tarantulafudge | mki4ok_, yo tradusca |
| 00:03.20 | lauri | thanks ritalin :) |
| 00:03.27 | ritalin | np |
| 00:03.32 | mki4ok_ | And WHICH IT HAS OF BAD OCCUPYING SINGLE MAYUSCULAS IS WORDS MMM |
| 00:03.43 | ritalin | .... |
| 00:03.45 | Tarantulafudge | mayusculas? |
| 00:03.53 | mki4ok_ | CAPSLOCK |
| 00:04.28 | ritalin | mki4ok_: cuál es su problema? |
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| 00:04.44 | mki4ok_ | RITALIN K ONDAS HABLAS ESPAÑOL |
| 00:04.48 | mki4ok_ | LOL |
| 00:04.50 | mki4ok_ | :)8 |
| 00:04.52 | mki4ok_ | :9 |
| 00:04.54 | ritalin | ;) |
| 00:05.02 | mki4ok_ | :) |
| 00:05.03 | ariel | ritalin de donde eres? |
| 00:05.22 | mki4ok_ | ARIEL Y RITALIN HABLAN ESPAÑOL |
| 00:05.30 | canllaith | heh |
| 00:05.30 | ritalin | haha |
| 00:05.35 | ariel | HEheheHEEheEHeheEHheheEHEHEHee |
| 00:05.37 | lauri | yes, mk, specially for you, I went and asked them for help :) |
| 00:05.38 | ariel | ups |
| 00:05.40 | ariel | my bad |
| 00:05.47 | lauri | so please, ask your questions now, while you can |
| 00:06.27 | Tarantulafudge | there should be a spanish version of this channel |
| 00:06.29 | Tarantulafudge | like gentoo |
| 00:06.53 | canllaith | make one and there will be :) |
| 00:07.22 | mki4ok_ | :) |
| 00:07.24 | mki4ok_ | K PASO |
| 00:07.34 | mki4ok_ | PRACTICARAN ESPAÑOL A WEBO |
| 00:07.39 | mki4ok_ | LOL |
| 00:07.43 | mki4ok_ | :) :) :) |
| 00:07.45 | ariel | mki4ok_ que necesitas ? o solo molestas ? |
| 00:07.45 | mki4ok_ | ;9 |
| 00:07.53 | ariel | mki4ok_ no veo que necesites algo.. |
| 00:07.54 | mki4ok_ | HABLAS ESPAÑOL |
| 00:07.58 | ariel | si |
| 00:08.01 | ariel | y muy bien.. |
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| 00:08.02 | ariel | :) |
| 00:08.02 | mki4ok_ | BIEN BIEN |
| 00:08.15 | mki4ok_ | O SOLO MEDIO |
| 00:08.18 | mki4ok_ | MMM |
| 00:08.20 | mki4ok_ | :) |
| 00:08.30 | ritalin | lauri: he's just chatting... |
| 00:08.30 | mki4ok_ | ARIEL CONTESTAME PUEX |
| 00:08.34 | lauri | ahhhh |
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| 00:08.39 | ariel | spanish is my first lenguage |
| 00:08.48 | mki4ok_ | ARIEL BIEN |
| 00:08.50 | mki4ok_ | OK |
| 00:08.54 | mki4ok_ | :) |
| 00:09.00 | lauri | from the "02:02] <mki4ok_> And WHICH IT HAS OF BAD OCCUPYING SINGLE MAYUSCULAS IS WORDS MMM" |
| 00:09.00 | ariel | lauri i think mki4ok_ is just joking.. |
| 00:09.03 | mki4ok_ | ENTOY PUEDO HABLAR CON TIGO EN ESPAÑOL |
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| 00:09.08 | lauri | I thought hwas having trouble with his caps lock :) |
| 00:09.13 | Tarantulafudge | what is mayusculas?? |
| 00:09.16 | ariel | jejeje |
| 00:09.28 | ariel | Tarantulafudge mayusculas is like CAPS |
| 00:09.28 | mki4ok_ | JEJEJE |
| 00:09.38 | mki4ok_ | OK CAPSLOCK |
| 00:09.57 | lauri | ok, there must be a spanish language just-chat place we can send him |
| 00:10.04 | lauri | mki4ok_: yes, can you turn it off? |
| 00:10.11 | lauri | because this is slightly ridiculous :) |
| 00:10.20 | ariel | i think he dosent have a capslock key |
| 00:10.28 | mki4ok_ | THIS IS WORDS IS MAYUSCULAS |
| 00:10.30 | mki4ok_ | :) |
| 00:10.56 | mki4ok_ | ARIEL K PASO NO ME CONTESTASTE |
| 00:11.02 | lauri | mki4ok_: you're cute and all, but this is really a technical channel with a topic |
| 00:11.04 | mki4ok_ | Y NO NO ESTOY BROMEANDO OK |
| 00:11.11 | ariel | mki4ok_ y que me has preguntado ? |
| 00:11.16 | ariel | mki4ok_ por favor quita las mayusculas |
| 00:11.24 | mki4ok_ | SI HABLAS BIEN EL ESPAÑOL |
| 00:11.27 | ariel | si |
| 00:11.34 | mki4ok_ | Y SI PUEDO HABLAR CON TIGO |
| 00:11.36 | mki4ok_ | MMM |
| 00:11.37 | ariel | pero quita las mayusculas... eso molesta |
| 00:11.38 | mki4ok_ | :9 |
| 00:11.43 | mki4ok_ | YA LO SE |
| 00:11.49 | ariel | so ? do it |
| 00:11.52 | mki4ok_ | POR ESO KIERO HABLAR CON TIGO |
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| 00:11.56 | lauri | aseigo: you could wave the big stick around for a bit |
| 00:12.14 | aseigo | lauri: i'd prefer to keep my pants on today. i'll just use ops instead |
| 00:12.17 | mki4ok_ | NO HAY NADA IGNORALAS TENGO PROBLEMA CON MI TECLADO |
| 00:12.32 | lauri | argh! |
| 00:12.34 | ariel | solucionalos en algun canal de pruebas... |
| 00:12.39 | lauri | scary place! bad mental image! |
| 00:12.42 | aseigo | hahahahaha |
| 00:12.46 | ariel | lauri he say is having trouble with his keyboard.. |
| 00:12.46 | mki4ok_ | ARIEL SABES NECESITO INFORMACION |
| 00:12.46 | aseigo | yeah, sorry, i couldn't help it |
| 00:12.52 | aseigo | it was like you slow pitched it and i just had to hit it |
| 00:13.02 | Tarantulafudge | lauri, so do I need anything besides arts ? |
| 00:13.21 | lauri | Tarantulafudge: can you play sound? cat something.wav /dev/something ? |
| 00:13.38 | lauri | or mpg123, or anything else that makes noise |
| 00:13.45 | Tarantulafudge | lauri, I haven't isntalled kde yet |
| 00:13.46 | mki4ok_ | OK ARIEL ME VAS A IGNORAR |
| 00:13.50 | lauri | if yes, no, you don't need anything |
| 00:13.53 | mki4ok_ | SE NOTA LA AYUDA |
| 00:13.56 | aseigo | candyban: no, i like it =) |
| 00:13.59 | lauri | canllaith: it means you asked a boy |
| 00:14.01 | ariel | mki4ok_ solo quieta el CAPS |
| 00:14.01 | aseigo | er, canllaith no, i like it |
| 00:14.05 | ariel | quita* |
| 00:14.23 | lauri | ariel: I know he can type in lower case, I saw him do so (and mixed case even) |
| 00:14.27 | mki4ok_ | ME PUEDES AYUDAR ASI NO! O NO KIERES |
| 00:14.29 | aseigo | canllaith: the drop shadows make things a bit fuzzy, but the colour is nice |
| 00:14.39 | canllaith | aseigo: heh cool :) I do have a really nice bluey banner image too, and a green one. I might make it so I can flip colour schemes by changing symlinks to .css file or something |
| 00:14.40 | lauri | ariel: thanks a ton for the help, but I think he's just being silly :( |
| 00:14.43 | mki4ok_ | YA T DIJE K TENGO PROBLEMS |
| 00:14.49 | aseigo | canllaith: you can also let the user do that |
| 00:14.55 | ariel | lauri iok no probs. |
| 00:15.02 | aseigo | canllaith: you can offer more than one css file using the alternate tag thingy |
| 00:15.04 | canllaith | aseigo: thanks :)) I get like, emails daily from people saying 'I was at your site...' and I Don't want it to suck |
| 00:15.08 | canllaith | aseigo: bah noooooooooooo that's boring |
| 00:15.08 | aseigo | canllaith: then the user can just flip between it |
| 00:15.16 | mki4ok_ | OK ARIEL |
| 00:15.17 | canllaith | aseigo: I want the site to magically change colours on them mid visit! |
| 00:15.23 | mki4ok_ | SI LAS KITO ME AYUDARAS |
| 00:15.25 | mki4ok_ | AH |
| 00:15.32 | mki4ok_ | SI O NO |
| 00:15.35 | mki4ok_ | MMM |
| 00:15.37 | mki4ok_ | :) |
| 00:15.39 | Tarantulafudge | lauri, isntalling kde.. |
| 00:15.40 | mki4ok_ | ;) |
| 00:15.52 | mki4ok_ | ARIEL DIME |
| 00:15.58 | mki4ok_ | O ME DEJARAS IGNORADO |
| 00:16.08 | mki4ok_ | SI LAS KITO ME AYUDAS |
| 00:16.12 | aseigo | canllaith: hehe... yeah, select a random css file with each page reload |
| 00:16.13 | mki4ok_ | AH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 00:17.01 | mki4ok_ | :) |
| 00:17.03 | Tarantulafudge | mki4ok_ no mayusculas! |
| 00:17.08 | mki4ok_ | lol lol |
| 00:17.09 | mki4ok_ | LOL |
| 00:17.23 | aseigo | mhm. |
| 00:17.59 | mki4ok_ | for what you nick Tarantulafudje |
| 00:18.41 | mki4ok_ | hello tarantu |
| 00:19.01 | Tarantulafudge | hello |
| 00:19.44 | mki4ok_ | for what your nick |
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| 00:20.38 | mki4ok_ | hello |
| 00:20.43 | mki4ok_ | you understand |
| 00:20.53 | lauri | sad thing is next time someone has an actual problem in spanish, i'll probably just send them out |
| 00:21.03 | mki4ok_ | por k tu nick |
| 00:21.21 | ariel | thats why i dont ask in spanish ... :) |
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| 00:23.00 | Tarantulafudge | its a tarantula's fudge - get it? made it when I was 6 |
| 00:23.27 | Tarantulafudge | never really had the heart to give it up :P |
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| 00:24.35 | Tarantulafudge | so do you people like kde? |
| 00:24.56 | canllaith | Yup |
| 00:25.13 | Tarantulafudge | you guys think its nice to new linux users? |
| 00:25.39 | Tarantulafudge | I'm installing it for some older people |
| 00:25.44 | canllaith | :) |
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| 00:26.11 | canllaith | Sleep well. Don't let the eagles bite ;) |
| 00:26.28 | Tarantulafudge | eagles ?? |
| 00:26.39 | Tarantulafudge | *looks around suspiciously* |
| 00:27.04 | will | I'm trying to use KAppfinder, but it doesn't find an app located in /usr/bin. Any reason why? |
| 00:27.17 | Tarantulafudge | will, lol |
| 00:27.39 | will | ? |
| 00:27.42 | Tarantulafudge | Is it worth to install kde 3.4.1? |
| 00:27.47 | Tarantulafudge | or stay with 3.3 |
| 00:27.54 | canllaith | 3.4.1 is very good |
| 00:27.59 | canllaith | lots of improvements over 3.3 |
| 00:28.00 | Tarantulafudge | very well |
| 00:28.09 | canllaith | http://features.physos.net |
| 00:28.15 | canllaith | here is a page telling you some of hte new features :) |
| 00:28.31 | randomity | If you've got hardware-acceleration you can get some cool transparency stuff |
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| 00:29.13 | Tarantulafudge | randomity, hardware-acceleration? |
| 00:29.26 | Tarantulafudge | randomity, what would you consider hardware-acceleration |
| 00:29.33 | Tarantulafudge | randomity, like a graphics card? |
| 00:29.46 | randomity | having a card for which the Render X extension is supported |
| 00:29.53 | canllaith | If you have an nvidia graphics card |
| 00:30.02 | randomity | I think that means OpenGL, but I'm not sure |
| 00:30.03 | Tarantulafudge | canllaith, I have |
| 00:30.18 | canllaith | Then you can turn on pretty transparencies and drop shadows in KDE if you have xorg |
| 00:30.21 | randomity | You also have to add a line or two to your xorg.conf |
| 00:30.23 | canllaith | rather than the old xfree |
| 00:30.28 | Tarantulafudge | radomity, its an nvidia geforce 4 mmx440 |
| 00:30.28 | canllaith | There is examples on the faq about it |
| 00:30.38 | Tarantulafudge | canllaith, and xorg |
| 00:31.24 | canllaith | http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/faq/misc.html#id2576944 |
| 00:32.34 | Tarantulafudge | randomity, is composite supported by nvidia? |
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| 00:33.51 | mobtek | Tarantulafudge: yes |
| 00:34.05 | mobtek | but xorg isn't real stable with composite yet :P |
| 00:34.18 | Tarantulafudge | mobtek, you sure? |
| 00:34.35 | Tarantulafudge | mobtek, using latest version |
| 00:34.40 | mobtek | well I've not had it very stable |
| 00:34.51 | mobtek | of xorg? |
| 00:35.08 | mobtek | but canllaith seems to have it stable on her machines |
| 00:35.17 | canllaith | Reasonably |
| 00:35.23 | benJIman | canllaith: what about the kopete bubbles? |
| 00:35.25 | canllaith | if I avoid two obvious things that WILL make it crash |
| 00:35.30 | benJIman | they crash it without fail on machines i've tested it on |
| 00:35.39 | canllaith | benJIman: I turn them off and use kwin classes to minimise kopete windows on creation and flash them on the taskbar |
| 00:35.56 | canllaith | The other thing I don't do, is ever minimise kate. Maximising it again causes a crash fairly often |
| 00:36.09 | benJIman | canllaith: moving transparent video arround very quickly can cause it to crash too |
| 00:36.20 | canllaith | video? As in an mpg in xine or something |
| 00:36.26 | benJIman | yeah |
| 00:36.32 | canllaith | ah, I don't watch anything |
| 00:36.39 | mobtek | canllaith: hahah neat :) |
| 00:36.51 | mobtek | benJIman: yuppers |
| 00:37.07 | canllaith | mobtek: I don't use it much these days though as I'm on a laptop with 8MB video card =p |
| 00:38.50 | benJIman | using the knotifiy boxes for message arrival is nicer than the bubbles I think, less obtrusive |
| 00:39.15 | canllaith | hrm the dilemma |
| 00:39.16 | benJIman | however you can't make them only appear for messages for which the conversation window isn't open |
| 00:39.27 | canllaith | if I get out of bed, I can go use my nice new lcd screen |
| 00:39.31 | mobtek | canllaith: heh yeah that would crap your style somewhat hehe |
| 00:39.32 | canllaith | instead of this little laptop |
| 00:39.36 | canllaith | but, that means I have to get out of bed |
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| 02:06.12 | MrGrim | besides linux/fb.h |
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| 02:13.19 | Alethes | heya canllaith |
| 02:14.21 | thiago | _Laurens_: what's the error? |
| 02:15.19 | _Laurens_ | No error when i open Konsole i just get an cursor and an blank screen no stuff like bash# |
| 02:15.27 | _Laurens_ | so i can't type any command's |
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| 03:31.05 | mki4ok | hello and ariel |
| 03:33.47 | mki4ok | hello |
| 03:34.23 | mki4ok | channel name please |
| 03:34.30 | thiago | #kde |
| 03:34.44 | mki4ok | you see ariel |
| 03:35.18 | mki4ok | #kde is name this channel |
| 03:36.01 | mki4ok | hello :) |
| 03:36.08 | mki4ok | this is |
| 03:36.17 | mki4ok | #kde |
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| 03:41.05 | grepper | ah |
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| 04:07.10 | mki4ok | alguien habla español |
| 04:07.16 | mki4ok | conocen a ariel |
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| 04:08.39 | mki4ok | hello |
| 04:08.43 | mki4ok | alguien conoce a ariel |
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| 04:10.50 | mki4ok | hello |
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| 04:13.50 | Speedy2 | Hey all |
| 04:14.40 | Speedy2 | I don't know if this is Kubuntu specific or not, but KDE seems to look for my mounted drives in /media -- anyway to change that? I prefer the standard UNIX /mnt location |
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| 04:17.45 | mki4ok | hello |
| 04:17.50 | mki4ok | HELLO |
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| 04:19.54 | Speedy2 | Hi mki4ok |
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| 04:23.36 | Radius_Vector | Help, whenever a contact in Kopete makes a custom status message in Yahoo, it becomes "Custom" for me and I cant see his status |
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| 04:24.27 | Xytek^ | Can anyone tell me how to re-install Konquerer? I removed it, now I realised i need it for the file browser, or is there an alternate? |
| 04:25.45 | Xytek^ | it |
| 04:26.09 | Xytek^ | the status, says deinstall ok installed |
| 04:26.10 | Speedy2 | hrm |
| 04:26.11 | Radius_Vector | apt-get install konqueror |
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| 04:28.01 | Xytek^ | nothing. |
| 04:29.27 | mki4ok | irc is very low in win |
| 04:29.51 | mki4ok | is very fast in linux |
| 04:30.00 | mki4ok | no! |
| 04:30.12 | mki4ok | what do you say??? |
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| 04:33.08 | Smak | I have a nice KDE desktop setup at work with kde 3.3, I also have kde 3.3 at home. What files do I need to copy over works desktop to another machine? |
| 04:33.51 | Speedy2 | Smak: Are they running the same distro? |
| 04:34.25 | Smak | yea |
| 04:34.45 | Speedy2 | Concievably, the .kde and .qt folders control that stuff |
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| 04:37.57 | gnoob | is it better to specify an average bitrate for mp3 or a min and a max value? |
| 04:39.51 | thiago | neither |
| 04:40.02 | thiago | use Ogg Vorbis with a quality value, no min or max |
| 04:40.17 | gnoob | my car stereo does not play ogg |
| 04:40.22 | gnoob | only wma and mp3 |
| 04:41.19 | thiago | oh |
| 04:41.29 | thiago | hmm... then it may have problems with VBR MP3s |
| 04:41.36 | thiago | use an average |
| 04:41.47 | gnoob | i think it played them before. |
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| 04:50.19 | gnoob | so you would go with VBR using average not high and low? |
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| 05:24.31 | Felly | Can Kontact work with IMAP subfolders ? |
| 05:24.44 | canllaith | I believe so |
| 05:24.51 | canllaith | Could you explain what you mean ? |
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| 05:29.59 | Speedy2 | aseigo: Greetings |
| 05:35.04 | aseigo | Speedy2: =) |
| 05:35.24 | Felly | strange |
| 05:35.45 | Speedy2 | aseigo: How goes it? |
| 05:35.45 | Felly | kontact does not show my IMAP subfolders but outlook do (on the same mail-account) |
| 05:36.16 | Felly | aseigo: what IMAP server are you using ? |
| 05:37.06 | aseigo | Felly: technically cyrus |
| 05:37.17 | aseigo | Speedy2: not bad. you? |
| 05:37.55 | Speedy2 | aseigo: Not bad either. Still attempting to get this KDE setup as I would like it |
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| 05:43.11 | Speedy2 | Hrm. kdesu doesn't seem to be accepting my root password -- any suggestions on what I should check? |
| 05:43.41 | aseigo | you caps lock key? ;) |
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| 05:44.42 | Speedy2 | aseigo: No, not a user error . for some reason my default user wasn't setup with sudo correctly. I'm guessing the Kubuntu people have KDE setup to use sudo ? |
| 05:44.59 | aseigo | oh you're using kubuntu |
| 05:45.11 | rr72 | no i musing SuSE |
| 05:45.15 | rr72 | ;) |
| 05:45.17 | rr72 | :) |
| 05:45.18 | aseigo | =P |
| 05:45.19 | rr72 | :P |
| 05:45.20 | Speedy2 | aseigo: Yeah, I am |
| 05:45.31 | aseigo | Speedy2: yeah, you don't use the root password, you use your user's password |
| 05:45.46 | aseigo | Speedy2: so kdesu and friends all require your user password |
| 05:45.50 | Speedy2 | aseigo: Right, except that's not working either. I suspect it has to do with the fact "sudo" wasn't setup correctly during install |
| 05:46.19 | aseigo | Speedy2: perhaps ... there are also some annoying bugs with kdesu (particularly in kcontrol) in kubuntu atm |
| 05:46.37 | aseigo | riddell and i are supposed to do some bughunting tomorrow on that |
| 05:46.42 | Speedy2 | Ah. |
| 05:47.10 | Speedy2 | Well, "sudo" fails for me (i.e. "sudo mount", enter user password gives me "vr is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported." |
| 05:47.22 | Speedy2 | aseigo: Anyway to tell KDE to just ask for my root password and skip this sudo stuff? |
| 05:47.36 | Speedy2 | Or does that have to do with the way the Kubuntu KDE package itself was created? |
| 05:49.21 | aseigo | yes |
| 05:49.49 | Speedy2 | Argh. So if sudo isn't working, I can't get KDE to just use the root account for these things |
| 05:50.18 | Speedy2 | sigh. Let me take a break and eat. bbiab |
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| 05:54.47 | Borg^Queen | Hello people. I'm trying to find instructions on retreive my nick password. I recently changed it and can't find the pad I wrote the new nick down on |
| 05:54.53 | Borg^Queen | Is there a url? |
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| 06:06.04 | seekHim | canllaith: Dessa! |
| 06:06.53 | canllaith | seekHim: erm? |
| 06:07.13 | seekHim | canllaith: dunno if you'd remember me... calvaryslove? |
| 06:07.41 | canllaith | oh gday :) |
| 06:07.53 | seekHim | canllaith: Long time no see, huh? |
| 06:08.09 | canllaith | true |
| 06:09.39 | seekHim | I've got kde 3.3.2, now... looking for Mdk rpms for 3.4.x, might've found em, but not been able to download them.... And I gave up on kopete (I did get .9 installed, but msn was borked with it) |
| 06:09.55 | markey | hey canllaith |
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| 06:11.19 | canllaith | Hey markey |
| 06:11.49 | seekHim | canllaith: may I paste an error message into pm? |
| 06:12.04 | canllaith | No, because I'm busy right now |
| 06:12.15 | seekHim | canllaith: Ok. |
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| 06:53.28 | josue | i try to connect kmldonkey |
| 06:53.40 | josue | i cannot |
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| 06:58.43 | _galbotrix | hi |
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| 07:18.27 | lord_crow | hello everyone |
| 07:19.01 | lord_crow | just a question, what're the steps to download kde from svn ??? |
| 07:22.31 | lord_crow | i'm learning C++/Qt programming and i want to familiarize with the code so i can help with the community(i hope ;) ) |
| 07:23.35 | dstambou | lord_crow: try #kde-devel |
| 07:23.52 | dstambou | what filesystem does k3b use in burning data dvds? |
| 07:23.59 | lord_crow | dstambou: thanks |
| 07:24.27 | canllaith | lord_crow: moment |
| 07:24.49 | canllaith | lord_crow: http://developer.kde.org/source/ |
| 07:27.39 | dstambou | anyone know? I'm trying to mount a data dvd I burnt |
| 07:27.46 | dstambou | and not sure what filesystem it is :0 |
| 07:28.07 | canllaith | iso9660 |
| 07:29.16 | dstambou | if that doesn't work... the dvd is screwed? |
| 07:29.23 | dstambou | k3b said it burnt successfully |
| 07:29.23 | dstambou | hrmm |
| 07:29.31 | dstambou | can't mount it though |
| 07:30.26 | canllaith | try -t auto ? |
| 07:30.39 | dstambou | canllaith: aye I tried that first, asked me to specify a fs type |
| 07:31.47 | canllaith | Interesting. Do you have another pc you can test it in ? |
| 07:35.20 | dstambou | canllaith: i think it is a coaster - I tried it in both my dvd drives and in my laptop |
| 07:35.39 | dstambou | but k3b told me it worked! bah |
| 07:37.00 | dstambou | not sure if I should risk trying to burn it again, or just burn it on my windows machine |
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| 08:03.40 | funky | hi people |
| 08:03.50 | funky | are you getting some troubles with google maps in konqueror ? |
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| 10:11.53 | MrGrim | coding question for you guys |
| 10:11.56 | MrGrim | in C if I have a variable "unsigned char **buffer" and I try to reference it as *(int *)(buffer[height] + width) = value; I get the error "subscripted value is neither array nor pointer". Anyone have any ideas? |
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| 10:16.00 | raff | OI |
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| 10:23.07 | MrGrim | nm, got it w/ *((int *)(buffer[height] + width)) = value; |
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| 10:36.50 | parapente | hi |
| 10:37.45 | parapente | Q: the default behaviour of konqueror when browsing the home dir (or any local dir) is to show archives in the tree view on the left |
| 10:37.55 | parapente | they appear as some kind of a folder |
| 10:38.10 | parapente | can I make them disappear from there |
| 10:38.11 | parapente | ? |
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| 10:43.30 | blubs | hi |
| 10:43.36 | blubs | kde is gay |
| 10:43.37 | blubs | btw |
| 10:43.42 | blubs | use fluxbox |
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| 12:09.27 | pusling | When I view an image with transparent background in quickshow, background is shown as black. Can I change it somehow ? |
| 12:09.35 | pusling | s/q/k/ |
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| 12:18.59 | Theory | btw, anyone else find the name "Style" under kcontrol for controlling what widgets look like rather unintuitive? |
| 12:19.13 | marcusU | Yes |
| 12:20.17 | benJIman | Theory: what would be more intuitive? |
| 12:20.34 | Theory | this is what I'm currently trying to think of |
| 12:20.45 | benJIman | It seems sensible enough to me, can't think of anything better anyhow |
| 12:21.03 | canllaith | What the heck is intuitive about using a computer? :P |
| 12:21.04 | benJIman | could be called "widget style" perhaps but for many people that wouldn't mean anything |
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| 12:21.25 | Theory | to me Style could apply to pretty much anything in the "Appearance and Themes" categoy though |
| 12:21.33 | canllaith | If you go to download styles, @kde.look.org they are called 'Styles' so it stands to reason when you apply them you'd go to 'Styles' |
| 12:22.15 | marcusU | ``I want my desktop to look exactly to my taste, but I don't want to be overwhelmed with a lot of confusing options.'' |
| 12:22.21 | benJIman | you only have to look at it once, if you're looking for ways to change how it looks chances are you'd check out style, and it does change the biggest aspect of the look/feel |
| 12:22.45 | Theory | it took me > 10 seconds to find it just now |
| 12:23.12 | canllaith | It took me I recall, quite a few times when I first started using KDE to figure out the A&T dialog |
| 12:23.25 | canllaith | ....... and then I felt like an idiot, given that the instructions are written on kde-look |
| 12:23.40 | canllaith | and that the userguide has an entire chapter on it |
| 12:23.40 | benJIman | I don't think it took me long, can't remember when it appeared though, it was somewhat different in 1.x |
| 12:23.55 | benJIman | perhaps you could have the theme manager, and be able to select different aspects of the theme to customise if you want, |
| 12:23.57 | canllaith | I recently documented it for 3.3.x (and it hasn't really changed since) |
| 12:24.18 | canllaith | I'd recomment actually browsing through some of the documentation we write for KDE, cause that's kinda why we write it ;) |
| 12:24.32 | Theory | I will restart the discussion if I can think of a better name :-) |
| 12:24.40 | marcusU | I do wish someone would fix the accessibility-keys bug. |
| 12:24.51 | benJIman | marcusU: what's that, it coming up by mistake? |
| 12:25.10 | benJIman | Theory: I've just noticed that the theme manager is allready like this :) |
| 12:25.45 | marcusU | Actually mouse navigation. If I accidentally active mouse navigation, if I go to KControl, the "move pointer with keyboard" is not checked. So it doesn't reflect reality. |
| 12:25.49 | Theory | back to figuring out why some of my apps are using the win95 style |
| 12:25.58 | benJIman | which apps? |
| 12:26.08 | canllaith | Theory: qt version prolly |
| 12:26.35 | marcusU | Also, sometimes KMail does not advance to the next unread letter correctly. I don't know why. |
| 12:26.46 | benJIman | there is plenty of space in the theme manager kcm, there could be descriptions there, and since the other sections are available from there perhaps the theme manager should be the default or top section in apeparance and themes |
| 12:27.08 | Theory | benJIman: kontact, kmldonkey, few others. it is probably Qt |
| 12:27.13 | benJIman | hmm |
| 12:27.30 | canllaith | Theory: are they built against a different version of qt to the one you built KDE against? have you recently upgraded qt or kde ? |
| 12:27.44 | Theory | I recently rebuilt qt-copy clean from svn |
| 12:27.54 | Theory | and have since failed to rebuild kdelibs |
| 12:27.55 | benJIman | is your old Qt lurking somewhere? |
| 12:27.59 | benJIman | aah |
| 12:28.06 | canllaith | Theory: ah :) Check $QTDIR, rebuild kdelibs. |
| 12:28.13 | benJIman | you need to rebuild kdelibs after rebuilding Qt I think |
| 12:28.23 | canllaith | depending how drastic the changes |
| 12:28.25 | Theory | ok, I will see if kdelibs builds now |
| 12:28.27 | canllaith | but it's usually a good idea |
| 12:28.39 | benJIman | it's never worked for me without rebuilding |
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| 12:32.30 | canllaith | hrm what's an interesting computer newsy site |
| 12:32.47 | marcusU | http://www.microsoft.com |
| 12:33.18 | Theory | el reg? |
| 12:33.57 | canllaith | I think kde hackers have more interesting blogs |
| 12:34.09 | StevenR | canllaith: i'd concur, i gave up reading gnomeblogs |
| 12:34.44 | canllaith | hi there StevenR :) |
| 12:34.45 | StevenR | canllaith: gf is out of hosp and home and able to chat on msn :):):) |
| 12:34.51 | canllaith | suhweet :) |
| 12:35.12 | StevenR | might get to see her next wkend |
| 12:35.19 | StevenR | if i gt my report done/nearly done |
| 12:35.27 | StevenR | missing her so much :( |
| 12:35.29 | canllaith | They all seem to use macs |
| 12:36.11 | StevenR | canllaith: i've gone over to xfce it seems!....dunno which will stick....kde/xfce...hmmm |
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| 12:36.23 | canllaith | heh |
| 12:36.35 | canllaith | xfce is not bad |
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| 12:38.01 | StevenR | canllaith: it's just really fast, and firefox does tabbar on the side, which konq doesn't |
| 12:38.15 | canllaith | xfce is no faster than KDE, it is a myth. |
| 12:38.27 | canllaith | but be truthful ;) |
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| 12:38.56 | StevenR | canllaith: it does seem to load faster |
| 12:39.12 | canllaith | StevenR: depends how much KDE stuff you're loading and if you untick running kbuildsycoca on start |
| 12:39.21 | canllaith | the default configuration of xfce is certainly more lean |
| 12:39.41 | StevenR | where do i set that kbuildsycoca thingy? |
| 12:39.43 | marcusU | I haven't looked at xfce in like 5 years. |
| 12:40.02 | StevenR | marcusU: it's got alot better, improved loads |
| 12:40.30 | canllaith | StevenR: hrm it's under Control Center -> KDE Components -> Performance, off hand |
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| 12:43.12 | marcusU | Oh well. Since someone stole one of my classes, I might program on something. |
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| 12:46.01 | apokryphos | Recent thought: do people in here generally use KStart at all? |
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| 12:46.12 | marcusU | kstart for? |
| 12:46.16 | doktoreas | hi guys |
| 12:46.17 | marcusU | Launching apps? |
| 12:46.20 | apokryphos | I realised that the main time I use it is to log out, which of course can be done by right-clicking |
| 12:46.22 | karioka_pr | good morning people |
| 12:46.29 | apokryphos | marcusU: use it at all, for any use |
| 12:46.42 | doktoreas | i have just installed kde, but when i run it, it loads with no bar |
| 12:46.55 | marcusU | When I do, I get chastized that I shouldn't omit --windowclass or something. |
| 12:47.23 | karioka_pr | i need a help here...with the "kcmshell fonts" comand |
| 12:47.27 | doktoreas | only the desktop and 3 icons |
| 12:48.09 | marcusU | Did you install KDE from source, after removing an existing installation of KDE, doktoreas ? |
| 12:48.10 | karioka_pr | i'm receiving a error msg: fonts.desktop doesn't specify a library |
| 12:48.49 | marcusU | Some of the freedesktop standards for where things go can really mess things up. I forget how I fixed it. |
| 12:49.19 | apokryphos | doktoreas: what distro? Try this http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/faq/panel.html#id2567367 point 5.3 |
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| 12:49.31 | grepper | karioka_pr: and does it ? |
| 12:50.32 | marcusU | Also, though, if your distro installs a custom K-menu in /etc/somethingIforget, you can also have this problem. |
| 12:51.29 | marcusU | I'm so sleepy right now, that's something that can happen, too. |
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| 12:53.31 | perspectival | Ciao |
| 12:55.50 | perspectival | Would anyone happen to have an idea why a custom button I create on Konqueror's main toolbar disappears when I close Konqueror? Aren't buttons you create supposed to stick around? I want a "New folder" button, but it's not happenin'... |
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| 12:56.57 | amorph | hi guys |
| 12:57.22 | canllaith | perspectival: after creating the button, you need to save your view profile |
| 12:57.36 | canllaith | Settings -> Save View Profile .... |
| 12:58.16 | amorph | I'm having a real hard time of it today getting my soundcard to work with ALSA, i had it working partly ok with OSS but optical out wasnt working so someone told me to switch to ALSA, ive recompiled my kernel and ALSA is enabled as sound system, but i got an error now on starting KDE, no sound dev found |
| 12:58.48 | canllaith | Have you had a look at Kcontrol -> Sound & Multimedia -> Sound system to make sure it's not set to OSS ? |
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| 12:58.57 | StevenR | amorph: set kde to use alsa in kcontrol |
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| 12:59.04 | amorph | yes indeed, im looking at that now and it is set to ALSA |
| 12:59.19 | StevenR | amorph: does sound work outside of kde? |
| 12:59.20 | yoz | hi guys... anyone here knows by chance where the kde icon in trhe systray is located since I'd like to change it! |
| 12:59.23 | canllaith | There is a faq about troubleshooting sound problems |
| 12:59.33 | canllaith | That is in the topic of the channel as you come in |
| 12:59.37 | amorph | StevenR good question, is there an easy way of checking that? |
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| 12:59.38 | StevenR | ~artstr |
| 12:59.38 | apt | rumour has it, artstr is http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/faq/sound.html |
| 12:59.39 | canllaith | yoz: as in... the menu icon ? |
| 12:59.52 | canllaith | amorph: xmms is a good way, or cat file.wav > sound device |
| 13:00.00 | StevenR | amorph: logout of kde and use ogg123 or play to play a sound |
| 13:00.07 | amorph | i guess i could check my startup log to see if sound dev module was initalised? |
| 13:00.09 | canllaith | As all this is covered there |
| 13:00.13 | amorph | ok |
| 13:00.21 | StevenR | amorph: and check the link i pasted too |
| 13:00.27 | canllaith | That *is* the faq |
| 13:00.29 | StevenR | or rather apt pasted |
| 13:00.31 | amorph | thanks guys, i will go over it |
| 13:00.42 | amorph | sneeze |
| 13:01.09 | yoz | canllaith: yeah.. |
| 13:01.23 | canllaith | yoz: that also, is in the faq that is in the channel topic ;) |
| 13:01.26 | canllaith | moment, I will get you the page |
| 13:01.45 | amorph | XMMS = "couldnt open audio' Please check that your souncard is configured properly' |
| 13:01.48 | canllaith | http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/faq/panel.html#id2567213 |
| 13:02.00 | yoz | canllaith: oh.. thanks alot. I do appriciate. lemme check. |
| 13:02.02 | canllaith | ok amorph so this is not a KDE problem and actually something wrong with your alsa configuration. |
| 13:02.12 | canllaith | amorph: are the sound modules loaded? any errors in dmesg ? |
| 13:02.12 | amorph | its screwed up eh |
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| 13:02.20 | amorph | lets check dmesg now |
| 13:02.58 | amorph | what should i grep dmesg for? |
| 13:03.13 | canllaith | I'm hoping it will be near the end so you don't have to read much !:P |
| 13:03.22 | amorph | nothing comes up for error |
| 13:03.29 | amorph | hehe me too |
| 13:04.06 | canllaith | sound modules are loaded? |
| 13:04.54 | amorph | im slightly confused |
| 13:05.01 | amorph | i have two sound devices u see |
| 13:05.17 | amorph | an onboard soundchip and a pci soundcard i fitted |
| 13:05.32 | doktoreas | apokryphos: i am running gentoo |
| 13:05.39 | doktoreas | i emrged the kde |
| 13:05.44 | doktoreas | and it load well |
| 13:05.53 | amorph | i think the onboard sound dev has loaded modules |
| 13:06.17 | apokryphos | doktoreas: see if that faq entry helps |
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| 13:06.37 | doktoreas | running kicker, it gives me an error |
| 13:06.43 | doktoreas | like it doesn' esist |
| 13:07.41 | amorph | 0000:01:08.0 Multimedia audio controller: C-Media Electronics Inc CM8738 (rev 10) |
| 13:07.47 | amorph | thats my soundcard |
| 13:08.03 | canllaith | Do you recall the name of the alsa module for it? |
| 13:08.11 | yoz | where's the kde dir by default? |
| 13:08.20 | canllaith | yoz: depends on distro |
| 13:08.24 | canllaith | it is defined by variable $KDEDIR |
| 13:08.28 | canllaith | or $KDEDIRS |
| 13:08.32 | amorph | i have no clue :-/ but i suspect looking at the mods it might be this: |
| 13:08.32 | canllaith | or kde-config --prefix |
| 13:08.34 | canllaith | :) |
| 13:08.34 | amorph | cmpci 42900 0 |
| 13:08.44 | canllaith | amorph: prolly, that's what my cmedia card was when I had one |
| 13:08.44 | yoz | canllaith: good point. |
| 13:08.51 | amorph | aha |
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| 13:09.02 | amorph | canllaith: did yours have optical out? |
| 13:09.10 | canllaith | heh no, mine was crappy old thing |
| 13:09.15 | amorph | hehe |
| 13:09.21 | perspectival | canllaith: saving view profile "File Management" doesn't cause the toolbar button to reappear the next time I open Konqueror. When I reopen it, click on "configure toolbars", select "Main Toolbar", I see "Create Folder" in the "Current Actions" list. Its icon has, however, disappeared, which evidently causes it not to display on the toolbar. I've tried different icons: none will reappear. Looks like a bug (with Konq 3.4.1) |
| 13:09.22 | canllaith | I think I have optical out now on my soundmax *shrugs* not sure. |
| 13:09.31 | amorph | and you dont use it?? |
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| 13:09.40 | canllaith | Well... I don't think I have anything to plug into it? |
| 13:09.48 | amorph | no MD recorder? |
| 13:09.55 | canllaith | and my little green iMac plays my music in iTunes mostly |
| 13:10.04 | amorph | oh yes, digital |
| 13:10.16 | canllaith | So the machine with the decent sound card |
| 13:10.22 | amorph | optical is only good for recording digitally onto CD eh |
| 13:10.25 | canllaith | um is plugged into speakers that are built into my screen :$ |
| 13:10.36 | canllaith | only system beeps really ;) |
| 13:10.41 | amorph | hehe |
| 13:10.54 | canllaith | The good speakers are plugged into little iMac. So yeah, no use for optical out... and no recording device like a MD |
| 13:11.07 | amorph | :) |
| 13:11.33 | canllaith | I've never set up alsa to use two cards |
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| 13:11.40 | amorph | could be tricky eh |
| 13:11.46 | canllaith | One thing you might find helps is building the oss compatibility modules for alsa. At least your KDE system sounds could use that. |
| 13:11.49 | canllaith | oh |
| 13:11.54 | canllaith | check the xmms output plugin |
| 13:11.59 | canllaith | make sure it wasn't set to oss ;) |
| 13:12.03 | amorph | oh yes |
| 13:12.09 | amorph | good point |
| 13:12.47 | amorph | seems to be ok |
| 13:13.02 | amorph | im wondering if my soundcard will need a special driver module built |
| 13:13.26 | amorph | i remember reading something on a forum saying the basic driver module doesnt support optical out |
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| 13:13.48 | amorph | phew linux doesnt my head in |
| 13:13.58 | canllaith | heh |
| 13:14.05 | canllaith | It can be very interesting at times |
| 13:14.22 | canllaith | but, this is a KDE help channel and as such we know bugger all about alsa. You might find other people/lists/sites much more helpful |
| 13:14.26 | amorph | yes some stuff i really love, like CUPS printer sharing, NFS and sharing filespaces |
| 13:14.33 | amorph | this stuff is amazing and very clever |
| 13:14.46 | amorph | but then u can try and do simple fings like use a device and waste days |
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| 13:15.12 | canllaith | Well, in reality using two sound cards isn't terribly simple under windows either |
| 13:15.20 | amorph | true |
| 13:15.26 | canllaith | and in windows, you can't get hacking so deep into it to fix any conflicts. |
| 13:15.37 | canllaith | So... linux is not being friendly no, but if you did learn the skills you could fix it :) |
| 13:15.41 | canllaith | in windows right now you'd be stuffed ;) |
| 13:16.13 | amorph | thats is true, theres just so much hardware out there for windows |
| 13:16.22 | canllaith | Yeah |
| 13:16.28 | canllaith | Sound is one area where linux is a bit behind the ball |
| 13:16.41 | amorph | when are we gonna see more linux friendly hardware and drivers from manufacturers |
| 13:17.09 | amorph | u wouldnt believe the hassles i had with my Wacom pad |
| 13:17.12 | canllaith | Well, I've never bought anything that didn't work properly |
| 13:17.20 | amorph | but i kept going and finally got it working |
| 13:17.24 | canllaith | except with the minor exception of laptops & suspend and resume |
| 13:17.36 | canllaith | although to be fair, it sucks under windows as well. The IBM runs linux better than it runs the win2k it came with |
| 13:17.46 | amorph | was that by choice or by luck? |
| 13:17.55 | canllaith | choice. IBM machines are the best for linux. |
| 13:18.09 | canllaith | IBM release drivers and specifications |
| 13:18.41 | amorph | im trying to get my tv card to work under Linux now, its supposed to be well supported |
| 13:18.55 | amorph | seems to be working, sort of, but no channels..thats a software issue tho |
| 13:19.30 | amorph | do you use GnomeMeeting? |
| 13:19.45 | canllaith | nope, my webcam isn't supported. The chipset is too new |
| 13:19.53 | amorph | :-( |
| 13:19.58 | amorph | that sux |
| 13:20.19 | amorph | i tried GnomeMeeting earlier and since i have no webcam plugged in, it used my tv card! |
| 13:20.39 | canllaith | hahaha how strange |
| 13:20.43 | amorph | i couldnt manage to connect to a Windows user, but i think it might broadcast tv pix from my card, that would be neat |
| 13:20.46 | amorph | hehe |
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| 13:21.09 | amorph | i reckon it would be quite choppy and not smooth video of course |
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| 13:22.01 | canllaith | Prolly. |
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| 13:22.07 | canllaith | Hi pinotree ! :) How are you ? |
| 13:22.17 | pinotree | hey canllaith =) |
| 13:22.21 | pinotree | fine, thanks you |
| 13:22.23 | pinotree | -s |
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| 13:23.45 | pinotree | canllaith: so had you left our channel? ;) |
| 13:25.03 | canllaith | pinotree: I quit irssi and it is not on autojoin :) |
| 13:25.13 | canllaith | I will come back sometime I'm wanting to talk to edu devels ;) |
| 13:25.14 | pinotree | eheh |
| 13:25.26 | pinotree | ok ;) |
| 13:25.42 | pinotree | we'll very glad to have you there :) |
| 13:25.46 | pinotree | +be |
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| 13:26.13 | morci | hi |
| 13:26.23 | morci | I have kdm 3.4.1 |
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| 13:26.57 | morci | but is doesn't list me all the sessions in /etc/X11/Sessions |
| 13:27.07 | thiago | I'm not sure it should |
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| 13:27.28 | morci | how do tell kdm to use another wm? |
| 13:27.39 | benJIman | morci: it uses `kdeconfig --prefix`/share/apps/kdm/sessions |
| 13:27.50 | thiago | morci: is that a file or a dir? |
| 13:27.57 | morci | a dir |
| 13:28.14 | morci | can i do that from the control center? |
| 13:29.06 | benJIman | kde-config --prefix even |
| 13:29.27 | doktoreas | running kicker manual |
| 13:29.34 | doktoreas | it starts |
| 13:29.51 | benJIman | morci: the sessions available are those in that directory, you can choose the session then from the list, it will use your last session by default I believe |
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| 13:30.23 | morci | benJIman: I am looking for the dir |
| 13:30.37 | morci | I think mine is a bit diff |
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| 13:30.54 | benJIman | morci: "cd `kde-config --prefix`/share/apps/kdm/sessions" should take you there |
| 13:30.58 | cv | #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team |
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| 13:31.08 | pinotree | shit, here too |
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| 13:31.21 | cvxb | #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team |
| 13:31.28 | cvxb | #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team |
| 13:31.39 | pinotree | canllaith: ^^^^^ |
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| 13:31.56 | benJIman | grr seems to be doing that in every channel |
| 13:32.17 | grepper | someone should tell lilo about that channel |
| 13:33.12 | amorph | lamers |
| 13:33.59 | amorph | when u do cat file.wav > /dev/dsp why does it make a terrible screechy noise |
| 13:34.04 | grepper | does seem to indicate a fundamental lack of intelligence |
| 13:34.11 | amorph | yes |
| 13:34.17 | grepper | amorph: er, that wasn't an answer to your question :) |
| 13:34.42 | amorph | i just dont get channel spammers |
| 13:35.13 | amorph | kiddies with more time on their hands than they should have i suspect |
| 13:35.37 | grepper | they could save a lot of bandwidth by just joining, saying "hi, I'm an moron", then leaving |
| 13:35.45 | amorph | haha |
| 13:35.48 | morci | benJIman: and now? |
| 13:36.35 | amorph | well at least i have some audio output |
| 13:36.42 | benJIman | morci: ls should show the sessions which kdm has available |
| 13:37.16 | benJIman | they're .desktop files, guess you need to make one for your other sessions |
| 13:37.17 | amorph | is it supposed to be all streechy or normal playback when you do cat file.wav? |
| 13:37.27 | canllaith | bah sorry pinotree |
| 13:37.28 | amorph | *screechy |
| 13:37.33 | canllaith | if he comes back I will get him |
| 13:37.42 | benJIman | it won't be normal, they're not raw and it depends on the bitrate and things |
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| 13:38.19 | amorph | oh i see |
| 13:38.45 | amorph | so i know my soundcard is detected and working |
| 13:38.51 | amorph | the problem must lie in alsa |
| 13:39.00 | benJIman | well if doing that makes sound then it's probably working |
| 13:39.13 | amorph | yup, its the right card i checked the speakers are in it |
| 13:39.25 | amorph | so thats primary sound dev |
| 13:39.55 | amorph | how does Linux sys decide which sound dev to use as default one? |
| 13:40.16 | amorph | does it give preference to a pci card over an onboard? |
| 13:40.32 | benJIman | depends how it was setup by your distro |
| 13:40.40 | amorph | oh |
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| 13:44.04 | Julianyus | hi |
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| 13:50.55 | doktoreas | everything fine... |
| 13:51.04 | doktoreas | just the keyboard on konsolle is ok |
| 13:51.12 | doktoreas | in kde is wrong |
| 13:51.49 | thiago | how so? |
| 13:52.56 | amorph | i fancy a cup of tea |
| 13:53.06 | amorph | this alsa stuff is thirsty work |
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| 13:54.13 | AL13N | does anyone know a program that handles password encrypted archives? |
| 13:54.23 | AL13N | ark doesn't seem to work with it |
| 13:55.10 | dolphin | which arvice? |
| 13:56.12 | AL13N | i donno yet |
| 13:56.19 | AL13N | i'm trying to make one |
| 13:56.29 | AL13N | i tried zip with passwd |
| 13:56.36 | AL13N | but i'd like something better |
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| 13:58.10 | morci | benJIman: hi again |
| 13:58.25 | morci | benJIman: I did this: |
| 13:58.41 | morci | harrier danix # cd `kde-config --prefix`/share/apps/kdm/sessions |
| 13:58.59 | morci | harrier sessions # cat enlightenment.desktop |
| 13:59.00 | morci | [Desktop Entry] |
| 13:59.00 | morci | Encoding=UTF-8 |
| 13:59.00 | morci | Type=XSession |
| 13:59.00 | morci | Exec=/usr/bin/enlightenment-0.17 |
| 13:59.00 | morci | TryExec=/usr/bin/enlightenment-0.17 |
| 13:59.02 | morci | Name=e17 |
| 13:59.35 | morci | but I still dont get it in the list |
| 13:59.49 | benJIman | hmm |
| 14:00.19 | thiago | it doesn't show up? |
| 14:00.24 | morci | no |
| 14:00.44 | morci | only: default, custom, kde 3.4 and failsafe |
| 14:00.47 | thiago | is /usr/bin/enlightenment-0.17 there and executale? |
| 14:00.58 | morci | yes |
| 14:01.18 | morci | and e17 works, from startx |
| 14:02.34 | morci | harrier sessions # file /usr/bin/enlightenment-0.17 |
| 14:02.34 | morci | /usr/bin/enlightenment-0.17: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.4.1, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped |
| 14:02.43 | thiago | check `kde-config --prefix`/share/config/kdm/kdmrc for the dirs it reads for sessions |
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| 14:03.34 | benJIman | cat `kde-config --prefix`/share/config/kdm/kdmrc | grep SessionsDirs |
| 14:04.14 | morci | I just get this: > |
| 14:04.27 | benJIman | hmm |
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| 14:05.03 | benJIman | SessionsDirs=/opt/kde3/share/apps/kdm/sessions,/etc/X11/sessions,/usr/share/xsessions I have |
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| 14:06.17 | thiago | then it is the default |
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| 14:09.08 | morci | omg |
| 14:09.22 | morci | #SessionsDirs=/etc/X11/sessions,/usr/share/xsessions |
| 14:11.30 | doktoreas | wich package in kde is used for menaging power in laptop? |
| 14:11.52 | pinotree | doktoreas: iirc, kdeutils |
| 14:12.09 | doktoreas | thx |
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| 14:16.15 | claudi | Moin - jemand on, der Ahnung von KMail hat ? |
| 14:16.25 | dolphin | speak english |
| 14:16.52 | claudi | Ok - Hi - someone On, who kan teach me something in KMail ? |
| 14:17.06 | thiago | just ask |
| 14:17.10 | claudi | lol |
| 14:17.10 | thiago | maybe someone knows |
| 14:17.19 | asdf | in Kontact is there a way to view schedule conflicts? |
| 14:17.26 | claudi | very difficult in englsh :) |
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| 14:27.38 | morci | the same |
| 14:27.39 | morci | this is frustating |
| 14:30.22 | reuben | what is morci? |
| 14:30.55 | morci | trying to get in kdm list another wm |
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| 14:31.51 | PhilRod | morci: did you read the KDM docs and the FAQ on docs.kde.org? |
| 14:31.59 | PhilRod | (use the development version) |
| 14:32.10 | morci | no, I didn't |
| 14:32.39 | PhilRod | always a good start :-) |
| 14:33.06 | StevenR | PhilRod: is there a making-kde-go-faster page somewhere? |
| 14:33.11 | doktoreas | guys i was compiling kde and my laptop turned off |
| 14:33.19 | doktoreas | now it doesn't start anymore |
| 14:33.29 | StevenR | doktoreas: is it very hot? |
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| 14:33.41 | doktoreas | it's a centrino |
| 14:33.46 | doktoreas | so become hot |
| 14:33.54 | PhilRod | StevenR: yeah, on the wiki somewhere - "kde performance tips" or something |
| 14:33.55 | doktoreas | but in 1 year nothing happened |
| 14:34.10 | StevenR | doktoreas: leave it to cool a little and try again |
| 14:34.41 | StevenR | PhilRod: cool, will goto wiki, ty |
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| 14:42.55 | doktoreas | StevenR: it still doesn't turn ok |
| 14:42.57 | doktoreas | on |
| 14:43.20 | StevenR | doktoreas: it doesn't turn on at all? doesn't even power up? |
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| 14:46.34 | doktoreas | StevenR: nope |
| 14:46.40 | doktoreas | all light are down |
| 14:46.54 | StevenR | doktoreas: has it run out of battery? is it plugged into the mains? |
| 14:47.22 | doktoreas | plugged |
| 14:48.20 | StevenR | doktoreas: well it's extremely unlikely that kde has killed your computer. possibly your hardware has simply failed |
| 14:48.57 | doktoreas | no words... |
| 14:49.04 | doktoreas | it has runned out of battery |
| 14:49.15 | doktoreas | i doesn't realize that it was not connected :| |
| 14:49.35 | StevenR | doktoreas: so it wasn't connected to the mains? |
| 14:49.41 | doktoreas | nope :( |
| 14:49.55 | PhilRod | heh, I've done that before :-) |
| 14:50.01 | doktoreas | 3 hours of sleep in 2 days |
| 14:50.13 | PhilRod | I haven't done *that* before though |
| 14:50.26 | StevenR | PhilRod: i set my dads old lappy to beep and beep and beep when it gets low |
| 14:51.12 | StevenR | PhilRod: cos the apm bios is the suckiest on the planet and doesn't suspend to disk properly, it suspends to ram very well though |
| 14:51.29 | PhilRod | I should probably do something similar |
| 14:51.46 | PhilRod | and put some effort into finding out whether my laptop will suspend to * when in FreeBSD |
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| 14:52.17 | StevenR | well i'm back in kde....dunno which i want to stick with..xfce or kde |
| 14:52.30 | StevenR | kde just ocmes with so mucch cool stuff |
| 14:53.12 | StevenR | If i build kde without arts, will all apps work magically with alsa/dmix? |
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| 15:10.36 | morci | weee |
| 15:11.11 | morci | benJIman: thiago : thanks to both for your great help :) |
| 15:11.46 | morci | finally , it works |
| 15:12.08 | morci | I had to edit this: |
| 15:12.15 | morci | harrier danix # cat /usr/share/xsessions/enlightenment.desktop |
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| 15:26.20 | u2t | #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team |
| 15:26.34 | StevenR | lauri: canllaith ^ |
| 15:26.55 | *** mode/#kde [+o lauri] by ChanServ |
| 15:27.02 | *** mode/#kde [+q u2t!*@*] by lauri |
| 15:27.08 | StevenR | ty lauri |
| 15:27.25 | StevenR | there's been much spam of that sort in other channels today |
| 15:27.26 | kilrae | :O |
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| 15:28.15 | kilrae | apparently |
| 15:28.19 | StevenR | aye |
| 15:28.32 | kilrae | i think you can just change your nick |
| 15:30.42 | lauri | depends if I +q'ed the nick or not |
| 15:30.48 | lauri | I could +q all of turkey if I felt like it |
| 15:31.14 | kilrae | mmm turkey |
| 15:31.20 | lauri | I suspect I'd have lilo breathing down my neck in about 3 minutes flat if I did that though (although, I did once ban portugal by accident and it took a couple of days before anyone noticed) |
| 15:31.33 | benJIman | lauri: different nicks have been spamming that message on various channels , so banning the nick probably won't help |
| 15:31.47 | kilrae | ban the word linux |
| 15:32.16 | StevenR | the host/whatever has been k-lined now anyways |
| 15:33.01 | lauri | benJIman: banning a mexican cable net to prevent turkish spam, seems pointless, they're probably just bouncing off an insecure proxy |
| 15:33.04 | mobtek | isn't mx mexico? |
| 15:33.08 | lauri | and a +q is far more annoying than a ban |
| 15:33.24 | mobtek | lauri: yup |
| 15:33.36 | lauri | since they can't change nick while in a channel they have a +q on (well, they can't with a +b either, but then, they can't rejoin and get stuck like that with a +b) |
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| 15:49.30 | pinotree | lauri: ^^^^^ |
| 15:49.31 | scrool | #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team #fazlamesai Turkish Linux Team |
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| 15:49.35 | AL13N | can someone +q them |
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| 15:50.04 | apokryphos | gah |
| 15:50.04 | gnoob | is that guy spamming? |
| 15:50.04 | StevenR | lauri!!! |
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| 15:50.08 | *** part/#kde krall (~asxz@193.136.157.2) |
| 15:50.10 | AL13N | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:50.11 | *** part/#kde scrool (~rtey@193.136.157.2) |
| 15:50.18 | apokryphos | Those guys are going into loads of channels |
| 15:50.29 | gnoob | this channe needs more OP's. |
| 15:50.31 | AL13N | contact #freenode |
| 15:50.32 | benJIman | yeah, lots of different nicks |
| 15:50.43 | AL13N | ban 193.136.157.2 |
| 15:50.47 | AL13N | netban |
| 15:50.58 | *** mode/#kde [+o PhilRod] by ChanServ |
| 15:50.59 | *** mode/#kde [+b *!*@193.136.157.2] by lauri |
| 15:51.08 | *** mode/#kde [+scrq krall!*@*] by PhilRod |
| 15:51.13 | PhilRod | oops |
| 15:51.20 | lauri | heh, oh well, colours are evil anyway |
| 15:51.28 | mobtek | ehehe |
| 15:51.30 | apokryphos | apparently <varadero> ýts just a guy who banned from This channell and tries to close this chann |
| 15:51.37 | lauri | yes, we know |
| 15:51.39 | lauri | it won't work |
| 15:51.46 | PhilRod | erm, could you fix that - I have no idea what I just did |
| 15:51.48 | PhilRod | sorry |
| 15:51.56 | AL13N | lauri: can you contact someone in #freenode about this and issue a netblock? |
| 15:52.10 | lauri | AL13N: they are bouncing off multiple proxies |
| 15:52.19 | AL13N | ah |
| 15:52.27 | AL13N | _open_ |
| 15:52.27 | lauri | I've seen 5 so far |
| 15:52.54 | kilrae | you know i've thought that this was ##slackware for the last half hour |
| 15:53.00 | AL13N | maybe you can report the open proxies then? |
| 15:53.07 | kilrae | i just figured it out |
| 15:53.10 | mobtek | haha StevenR |
| 15:53.19 | mobtek | awesome :) |
| 15:53.28 | lauri | AL13N: to who? |
| 15:53.28 | kilrae | i've been wondering why the bot isn't doing anything |
| 15:53.36 | AL13N | lauri: spamcop ? |
| 15:53.46 | lauri | they do irc proxies? |
| 15:53.48 | lauri | news to me |
| 15:53.52 | AL13N | hmm |
| 15:54.03 | AL13N | maybe they don't |
| 15:56.00 | AL13N | there must be someone that has a irc open proxy list |
| 15:56.54 | lauri | any http proxy that accepts connections from outside, can be used to bounce an IRC bot through |
| 15:56.56 | lauri | and then some |
| 15:57.23 | mobtek | man there are some idiot admins out there |
| 15:57.23 | lauri | irc is just about the easiest most insecure protocol there is, and keeping a list would be impossible |
| 15:57.38 | AL13N | nothing is impossible |
| 15:57.45 | AL13N | i cannot believe something is |
| 15:57.53 | AL13N | i can believe hard and very hard though |
| 15:58.48 | lauri | ok |
| 15:59.09 | StevenR | i have to separate various bits of out network when i start work...gonna ban everythign and then enable just the things that are required, like http |
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| 15:59.18 | lauri | keeping such a list would require such enormous investment in bandwidth and hardware, for very transient information (since the number of open/insecure proxy hosts changes by the hundreds of thousands per day) |
| 15:59.28 | lauri | it would be so nearly impossible as to be completely pointless |
| 16:00.09 | lauri | and the bots do the equivalent of ip wardialling |
| 16:00.26 | lauri | you ever seen armageddon? |
| 16:00.36 | lauri | president asks nasa dude "why didn't you see this coming" |
| 16:00.55 | lauri | nasa dude says "because we can only watch 3% of the sky at a time, and it's a big ass sky" (paraphrasing :) |
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| 16:02.19 | goron | I want to be able to make be able to make ë, by pressing some key e.g. my Windows key + e. |
| 16:02.30 | goron | How can I do this? |
| 16:02.50 | lauri | what is that, e with a tilde? (heh, my font is too small) |
| 16:02.56 | goron | Creating an xmodconfiguration from scratch takes days? |
| 16:03.09 | goron | that's an e with two dots on it. |
| 16:03.10 | lauri | on most setups, you simply type ~ then e and hit enter |
| 16:03.35 | lauri | ok, then you type that then e with no space and hit enter |
| 16:03.42 | mobtek | ~e |
| 16:03.42 | apt | e is, like, a little more than 2, but less than 3 or portuguese for and, or very roughly 2.71828182, or mc^2 |
| 16:04.05 | goron | If I press ~, all I get is ~ |
| 16:04.06 | lauri | (that's with a standard 105 key intl keyboard layout, it won't do that on a US keyboard) |
| 16:04.14 | pinotree | ~pi |
| 16:04.14 | apt | extra, extra, read all about it, pi is ... |
| 16:04.22 | pinotree | ¬.¬ |
| 16:04.40 | goron | If I do ~e, all I get is ~e, |
| 16:04.52 | PhilRod | goron: do you have a key combination that will produce that letter? (even if it's not the one you want) |
| 16:04.52 | goron | If I do ~ e, all I get is ~ e. |
| 16:05.00 | goron | PhilRod: no |
| 16:05.07 | goron | PhilRod: I could enable "dead keys" in Gnome/ |
| 16:05.12 | lauri | http://www.tuxmagazine.com/node/1000044 (nice explanation) |
| 16:05.16 | goron | PhilRod: But that's not what I want. |
| 16:05.42 | goron | ok, the stuff in FreeBSD handbook, didn't work, and the stuff on tldp also didn't. |
| 16:05.44 | lauri | goron: this is X stuff, you choose the right X keyboard layout (KDE has a tool for that, it's called kxkb, you can get at it in KControl) |
| 16:06.00 | goron | I know it's X stuff. |
| 16:06.11 | lauri | *choose the right keyboard* |
| 16:06.11 | goron | I only don't get it to work. |
| 16:06.58 | lauri | setxkbmap -rules xfree86 -model -pc104 -layout de -option "deadkeys" (you probably don't want de, use whatever you do want) |
| 16:07.02 | lauri | or do it in kxkb |
| 16:07.03 | goron | Where is it in kcontrol? I searched for it under "Keyboard", but there it wasn't. |
| 16:07.05 | lauri | or right in your xorg.conf |
| 16:07.37 | lauri | regional & accessibility -> keyboard layout |
| 16:07.38 | goron | I tried the xorg.conf approach, but the results were unsatisfactory. |
| 16:07.59 | lauri | goron: xmodmap, xkb, and kxkb, all change the x keyboard layout |
| 16:08.08 | lauri | if that's not good enough, well, it's not good enough |
| 16:08.32 | goron | yes, well, if you say that webpage is good, then I am sure it will work. |
| 16:08.58 | PhilRod | if you want a particular keyboard shortcut, then you'll need xmodmap |
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| 16:11.05 | *** mode/#kde [-s] by lauri |
| 16:11.20 | lauri | I dunno, I think i'll leave the colours ban on :) |
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| 16:13.36 | Akhorahil | can someone tell me where kde stores special windows settings? |
| 16:13.41 | goron | lauri: "When you click OK or Apply, a little icon that looks like a tiny flag will appear in your icon tray" It doesn't. |
| 16:13.59 | goron | But ë or ï works now. |
| 16:13.59 | lauri | it doesn't look like a flag anymore |
| 16:14.16 | goron | No there's no icon. |
| 16:14.19 | lauri | that's actually an option, if it should show in the tray or not, or only if you have multiple layouts |
| 16:14.25 | goron | oh, ok. |
| 16:14.29 | goron | never mind |
| 16:14.29 | lauri | but it used to *always* show the icon |
| 16:14.45 | lauri | (personally, I turn it off anyway, I don't switch layouts, so I don't need it) |
| 16:15.52 | goron | But I actually want that I can choose to set that mode active or not, I supposed the Metakey could do that. |
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| 16:16.10 | lauri | ok, that's in there somewhere too |
| 16:16.20 | doktoreas | hi guys! |
| 16:16.27 | doktoreas | my system is finaly on... |
| 16:16.27 | lauri | next page (of the dialog) |
| 16:16.29 | goron | If I type there's as I would normally do, it gives thereÅ›. |
| 16:16.31 | doktoreas | just one thing: |
| 16:16.50 | doktoreas | the system is sometimes slow, expecially when writing on consolle |
| 16:16.53 | doktoreas | dma is on |
| 16:17.12 | lauri | show indicator for single layout, show country flag, switching policies (and then a whole lot of really insanely complicated xkb options that you're just going to have to read for yourself goron, because they are scary) |
| 16:18.29 | goron | lauri: the switching policy is in grey(i.e. not active). |
| 16:18.33 | Blissex | lauri: some people are spending the rest of their lives in a maximum security asylum after reading the XKB docs... |
| 16:19.18 | Alkis71 | hello all, my kde3.4.1 used to display a nice icon on desktop when I inserted my usb stick...Now, I lost my old one and got a new one...it gets auto-mounted (by udev) but I get no icon on desktop...anyone has a good idea how I should fix this? |
| 16:20.15 | doktoreas | no way to speed up it? |
| 16:21.47 | goron | Blissex: well, I think it's all way too complex. This has a Just Works(TM) value of zero. |
| 16:22.51 | Blissex | goron: like 90% of current stuff unfortunately... it has become often a case of job-security-thru-obscurity. Consider ALSA, the many font systems, XKB, as prime example... |
| 16:23.11 | goron | Blissex: well, I don't have ALSO :D |
| 16:23.18 | goron | er ALSA |
| 16:23.26 | lauri | Blissex: hence why I'm not doing it |
| 16:23.52 | gnoob | Alkis71; is it as easy as just creating a new device? By right clicking the desktop? |
| 16:23.54 | Blissex | lauri: but you could try :-) |
| 16:24.35 | lauri | I don't have any trouble or need to switch layouts |
| 16:24.50 | Alkis71 | gnoob: I should create a new device link on desktop manually? |
| 16:25.05 | Blissex | rumour has it that the Necronomicon was but a summary of the XKB documentation; also that Doom III was inspired by reading the first few pages thereof. |
| 16:25.27 | Blissex | Alkis71: you could use 'kwikdisk' for example. |
| 16:25.42 | lauri | the xkb docs are nothing compared to the voodoo that is xauth |
| 16:26.07 | lauri | Alkis71: look at the dynamic devices in kcontrol |
| 16:26.34 | lauri | on many distributions (that aren't running evil automounters) you can just enable the things you have and it'll add the icons for you |
| 16:27.07 | gnoob | Alkis71; i think that should work. |
| 16:27.49 | Alkis71 | lauri: dynamic devices? where's that? :-) |
| 16:28.05 | goron | Why is the Keyboard layout even included in KDE if it isn't clear of how to work with it? |
| 16:28.32 | lauri | kcontrol -> desktop -> behaviour -> device icons |
| 16:28.40 | lauri | goron: did you read the documentation? |
| 16:29.01 | Blissex | goron: the author of 'xkb' probably read the docs, and now is in another padded cell... nearby :-) |
| 16:29.18 | lauri | kxkb has it's own documentation |
| 16:29.24 | doktoreas | in wich package is kterm? |
| 16:29.29 | lauri | doktoreas: none |
| 16:29.32 | goron | lauri: where? manpage? |
| 16:29.41 | lauri | goron: in the kcontrol module, there is a help tab |
| 16:29.49 | lauri | with a nice big 'click here to read the manual' link |
| 16:29.54 | Blissex | goron: actually the 'xkb' provides a semicomprehensile way to configure many advanced aspects of XKB. As a frontend to 'setxkmap' it works pretty well. |
| 16:30.02 | goron | ok |
| 16:30.06 | lauri | Blissex: could you just stop confusing the issue? |
| 16:30.23 | Blissex | lauri: which issue? |
| 16:30.48 | doktoreas | lauri: how can i run it? |
| 16:30.51 | lauri | that the xkb documentation is documentation for xkb, and how to switch keyboard layouts via kxkb won't be in them |
| 16:30.58 | lauri | doktoreas: I have no idea what or where you find kterm |
| 16:30.59 | lauri | what is it? |
| 16:31.06 | lauri | do you mean konsole? the KDE terminal emulator? |
| 16:31.40 | goron | cd /usr/bin; ln -s `which konsole` kterm |
| 16:31.40 | doktoreas | yup :) |
| 16:31.42 | Blissex | 'kterm' does exist but it is for 'kanji term', a version of 'xterm' especially oriented to japanese |
| 16:31.45 | doktoreas | sorry pretty newbie |
| 16:31.52 | Blissex | xkb |
| 16:32.18 | doktoreas | i found it thx lauri |
| 16:32.31 | doktoreas | but i haven't still found power applet |
| 16:32.33 | goron | lauri: the icon is shown only when you have multiple-options defined. |
| 16:32.41 | doktoreas | in control center there's not such option |
| 16:32.43 | lauri | goron: if you choose that as the option |
| 16:33.01 | lauri | (you can choose to have it show anyway, I already told you that :) |
| 16:33.26 | goron | well, If I only have one option it didn't show it. |
| 16:33.44 | Blissex | goron: actually the 'kxkb' provides a semicomprehensible way to configure many advanced aspects of XKB. As a frontend to 'setxkmap' it works pretty well. And it has been said, there is even some documentation for 'kxkb' that more or less is understandable |
| 16:33.47 | goron | but I might be wrong. |
| 16:34.01 | goron | Blissex: I was already reading it. |
| 16:34.40 | Alkis71 | lauri: hmm, it misjudges my usb-stick for a hard drive (i.e. it shows on desktop when I enable "Show mounted hard drives")....can I fix that? |
| 16:35.00 | lauri | I have no idea |
| 16:35.23 | lauri | I avoid usb like the plague (and if it's a usb mass storage device, does it really matter if it's a hard drive?) |
| 16:36.12 | Alkis71 | lauri: well, it's much cleaner to have just one icon on desktop than 7 :-) |
| 16:36.57 | lauri | then turn the dynamic ones off |
| 16:37.06 | lauri | and right click and add a not-dynamic one |
| 16:37.13 | Blissex | Alkis71: a USB stick appears like a hard disc to the system. |
| 16:37.33 | Alkis71 | Blissex: my previous usb didn't |
| 16:37.40 | goron | I see there's one thing completely wrong with documentation translations in general: they are not adapted for the intended public. |
| 16:37.53 | Alkis71 | Blissex: my previous was under the "Removable media" category |
| 16:38.20 | Blissex | Alkis71: that's just the automounter using a different title... |
| 16:39.07 | goron | If I am reading documentation about configuring my keyboard in the Netherlands, it should contain information about that (and not a straightforward translation from the English masterdocument). |
| 16:39.29 | Alkis71 | Blissex: udev is the new automounter scheme, right? |
| 16:40.10 | goron | lauri: you are right according to the documentation |
| 16:40.11 | Blissex | Alkis71: no, 'udev' just creates devices dynamically. There are also several different automounting schemes, some in the kernel, some linked to 'hotplug' and 'udev', and so on. |
| 16:40.31 | lauri | well, and the perfectly clear option I can see in the kcontrol module |
| 16:41.09 | Alkis71 | Blissex: what part does the actual categorisation of a mounted device though? |
| 16:41.24 | Blissex | Alkis71: the automounted daemon or whatever usually. |
| 16:41.47 | Blissex | Alkis71: in the Linux kernel there is essentially no distinction between removable and non removable disc drives. |
| 16:42.16 | goron | lauri: The documentation is completely useless. I think I will try to find some other resource. |
| 16:43.09 | Alkis71 | Blissex: so, if my system treats the usb-stick as a hard-drive then I can't "make" it think itherwise, huh? |
| 16:43.23 | Alkis71 | otherwise, even |
| 16:44.21 | Blissex | Alkis71: I think you can label it otherwise, but the 'ub' and 'usb-storage' drivers definitely define a block device, and a disk block device. |
| 16:45.12 | Alkis71 | Blissex: I see. Thanks |
| 16:47.05 | goron | I now found some usefull documentation on some wiki. |
| 16:47.17 | lauri | goron: what wiki? |
| 16:47.25 | goron | http://wiki.nedlinux.nl/index.php?page=XModmap |
| 16:47.30 | lauri | really, I think half your trouble is you use any old random documentation |
| 16:48.06 | lauri | and then you have bad paths, assumptions about software and subsystems that don't apply |
| 16:48.06 | goron | lauri: well, sure, if I would read all of the documentation, then after a year or so I would have something working. |
| 16:48.15 | lauri | no, just read the *right* documentation |
| 16:48.27 | Sho_ | Is that adblock add-on for Konqui available for 3.4 somewhere? |
| 16:48.32 | goron | lauri: Well, I was trying to found that, wasn't I? |
| 16:48.44 | Theory | is the documentation on how to decide which is the right documentation? and is it right? |
| 16:48.47 | goron | Sho_: You can also use Privoxy. |
| 16:49.23 | Sho_ | goron: I could, but then I already have a fat list of adblock filters for Firefox that the new Konqui add-on can parse, supposedly |
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| 16:55.24 | benJIman | Sho_: yeah it parses the firefox ones ok |
| 16:55.49 | Sho_ | benJIman: does it work with 3.4? |
| 16:55.59 | benJIman | no |
| 16:56.19 | Sho_ | ah :( |
| 16:56.25 | benJIman | well you could just svn up konqueror that worked for me a while back, don't know if it still will, am running svn trunk now |
| 16:56.45 | Sho_ | nah, running trunk is a little too wild for me |
| 16:56.47 | Sho_ | :) |
| 16:57.09 | Theory | btw, random troll, what do people think about moving kde apps away from QRegExp towards PCRE? |
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| 16:58.04 | PhilRod | Theory: the answer is probably "not much", but try #kde-devel, where you'll find some developers who'll know |
| 17:00.18 | Pupeno | Is there any way to configure Kate to use 4 spaces for indentation when editing Python (but use tabs for anything else) ? |
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| 17:01.57 | flosch | re |
| 17:02.11 | Super_Cat_Frog | hi - does anybody have any idea what program i could use to shorten an mp3 and lower its quality? preferably a kde app (its for a ringtone for my mobile, the 'hello moto' stuff is crap) |
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| 17:03.27 | Super_Cat_Frog | if its apt-getable from debian etch, that'd be great, but im not adverse to compiling from source |
| 17:03.28 | benJIman | Super_Cat_Frog: not a kde app but audacity is quite good |
| 17:03.37 | PhilRod | kaudiocreator is your best bet for a kde app. |
| 17:03.43 | Super_Cat_Frog | benjlman - is it easy to use |
| 17:03.47 | benJIman | yes |
| 17:03.48 | PhilRod | but there's probably a bunch of command line tools which will do it |
| 17:03.57 | Super_Cat_Frog | philrod - isn't that just for cd ripping? |
| 17:05.12 | PhilRod | Super_Cat_Frog: maybe - I've never used it :-) |
| 17:05.18 | Super_Cat_Frog | ok, thanks |
| 17:05.24 | Super_Cat_Frog | i'l try out audacity |
| 17:07.27 | Super_Cat_Frog | i wonder if i will get funny looks for having 'jack the ripper - motorhead' as my ringtone....... |
| 17:08.32 | doktoreas | guys how can i add the applet for using multiple desktop on bar? |
| 17:09.35 | Super_Cat_Frog | right click kicker, click add applet > click pager (or something like thaT) |
| 17:11.23 | doktoreas | Thx Super_Cat_Frog, do you know how i can add the battery applet? |
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| 17:15.08 | Jacobo221 | is there anyway to make the ScreenSaver choose a random one each time? |
| 17:15.31 | pinotree | Jacobo221: yes, there is the Random screensaver |
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| 17:16.27 | Jacobo221 | pinotree: ah, i can see :) i thought that would be just another more screen saver |
| 17:16.57 | Jacobo221 | pinotree: and to make the cursor have ashadow? the only way i found to make this is by setting this in the nVidia driver options in X |
| 17:17.10 | jahbul0n | does anyone know where i can find upcoming features for konqueror or where i can submit them to? |
| 17:18.13 | apokryphos | jahbul0n: some features mentioned in /topic. You can submit wishes via bugs.kde.org |
| 17:18.26 | jahbul0n | I dont think i have anything that'll overwhelm the development team, but i do wish if they could add functions like browsing sessions inside konqueror. OR do they have it already? |
| 17:18.28 | pinotree | Jacobo221: mmm... maybe the olny way is that |
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| 17:19.04 | Jacobo221 | pinotree: i guess that's a feature kde lacks then ;) |
| 17:19.14 | pinotree | ;) |
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| 17:23.28 | Jacobo221 | i must say i was react to installing kde. I had used it back in 0.x times and was very disappointed. been a wmaker user since and lately been through flux and xfce. but kde (v3.3 which's what i'm using) has really surprised me now. it's improved really really a lot :) |
| 17:24.04 | goron | what is the systemwide xmodmap configuration file? It's not in the man 7 X manpage. |
| 17:25.06 | goron | Or, isn't there such thing? And do I just need to call Xmodmap by hand with a conf file. |
| 17:26.27 | reuben | wait till you see jacobo221 |
| 17:26.52 | Jacobo221 | reuben: talking about 2.4? or future releases? |
| 17:27.04 | Jacobo221 | s/"2.4"/"3.4" |
| 17:27.17 | reuben | wait till you see 3.4 jacobo221 |
| 17:27.25 | Jacobo221 | ah k ;) |
| 17:42.41 | goron | Ok, I got my xmodmap working, but I don't have a font to display the Euro sign. What's the easiest way to get Euro-signs rendered? |
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| 17:44.13 | thiago | goron: € ? |
| 17:44.21 | thiago | goron: kcharselect, page 32 |
| 17:44.33 | goron | thiago: I want them to render in konsole. |
| 17:44.45 | thiago | goron: what's your LANG? |
| 17:44.46 | pinotree | goron: AltGr + e |
| 17:44.48 | mcquaid | hello, i like how i currently have arts set up in the control panel, i want to use arts for mixing when im playing a game in a light wm like icewm |
| 17:44.55 | goron | pinotree: I get a ?. |
| 17:45.11 | mcquaid | i want to ensure the settings i currently have setup to be used when i simply launch arts from a term |
| 17:45.13 | goron | pinotree: So I am missing a font or something. |
| 17:45.19 | thiago | goron: no, you're not |
| 17:45.23 | thiago | goron: what's your $LANG? |
| 17:45.23 | pinotree | goron: do you have it when writing in eg kwrite? |
| 17:45.53 | goron | pinotree: yes |
| 17:45.59 | mcquaid | no man for artsd |
| 17:46.10 | goron | thiago: not set at the moment |
| 17:46.22 | thiago | goron: so, LANG=C |
| 17:46.31 | thiago | goron: you cannot have € in konsole with that $LANG |
| 17:46.37 | goron | thiago: yes, I know. |
| 17:46.45 | goron | thiago: Only I thought I had set it. Thanks |
| 17:47.41 | thiago | you need to switch to an encoding with it |
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| 17:58.30 | Jacobo221 | is ther any way to make CTRL+ALT act as ALTGR ? |
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| 18:02.04 | thiago | I don't know |
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| 18:10.29 | Blissex | Jacobo221: yes. |
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| 18:11.18 | Blissex | Jacobo221: or more precisely: depends on what you mean with «act as ALTGR» |
| 18:15.17 | Tegelane | hi, how can i get kdelibs4 to compile? in kdelibs/kdeui/qxembed.cpp i get errors about 2 missing header files, private/qwidget_p.h and private/qt_x11_p.h |
| 18:15.28 | Jacobo221 | Blissex: what i mean is: when i press CTRL+ALT, i want it to be understood as ALTGR. therefor, CTRL+ALT+2 (@) would be == to ALTGR+2 and so on |
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| 18:15.34 | Gokee2 | Hey all |
| 18:16.12 | Blissex | Jacobo221: from what you say you have a thoroughly incorrect view of how things work wrt to keyboard handling. |
| 18:16.29 | Gokee2 | I want to set my xserver to always start at 1200x1024 but even after I set it log out and startx again it goes right back to 1600x1200 |
| 18:16.42 | Blissex | Jacobo221: which is not surprising, because the correct view is somewhat surprising. |
| 18:17.09 | Gokee2 | Also after I pick a new res the butten or timeout to not acept the new configuration does not work |
| 18:17.21 | Jacobo221 | Blissex: i know i can't do it with xkb. i went through that months ago. i'd like to know if kde's hotkeys might support that |
| 18:17.26 | Gokee2 | but as long as I can get it to the new res I am ok |
| 18:17.31 | Jacobo221 | Blissex: yes ideed |
| 18:17.34 | Gokee2 | Can anyone help me? |
| 18:18.18 | Blissex | Jacobo221: the sensible version of what you want to do is actually well possible with XKB |
| 18:18.19 | goron | Gokee2: Most likely you don't understand the problem. |
| 18:18.33 | Gokee2 | goron, I don`t? |
| 18:18.41 | Jacobo221 | Gokee2: check /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 or whatever X config fiel you're using |
| 18:18.43 | Blissex | Gokee2: your X server is configured to run in 1600x1200 by default, and then after you start it you change that. |
| 18:18.49 | goron | Gokee2: Did you change WM to some other window manager? |
| 18:19.20 | goron | Gokee2: it could be that you configured in some place that you want 1600x1200. |
| 18:19.41 | Gokee2 | no kde is the default wm |
| 18:19.50 | Gokee2 | all check xf86config |
| 18:20.02 | goron | Gokee2: did you change it in kde? |
| 18:20.26 | goron | Right click on your deskop |
| 18:20.26 | Gokee2 | yes |
| 18:20.27 | Blissex | Jacobo221: 'Alt Gr' is usually bound to one of the two group shift kyesymbols. You can rebind all Ctrl-Alt states to the equivalent group shifted key symbols, but it is a chore. |
| 18:20.37 | Gokee2 | I right clicked and changed the res |
| 18:20.46 | goron | Well, and does that work? |
| 18:20.47 | Blissex | Jacobo221: the correct approach would be to use another key as group shift. |
| 18:21.05 | Gokee2 | it worked but when I log out startx (kde is default) it goes back to 1600x1200 |
| 18:21.20 | goron | Gokee2: ok |
| 18:21.22 | Blissex | Jacobo221: while 'Ctrl Alt' more or less defines a keyboard state than a key. |
| 18:21.48 | goron | Gokee2: probably it's a flag to startx then. Dunno |
| 18:23.19 | Jacobo221 | Blissex: it would be even easier to hack the kernel then to work around all that ;P |
| 18:23.32 | Gokee2 | my xf86 config says " Modes "1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "640x480"" that does not mean 1600x1200 is the default does it? |
| 18:23.38 | Jacobo221 | Blissex: but thanks anyway. a lot :) |
| 18:23.40 | Blissex | Jacobo221: the problem is not the kernel, it is the X server. |
| 18:23.45 | goron | What's wrong with this: |
| 18:23.50 | goron | clear Mod3 |
| 18:23.50 | goron | keysym Alt_R = Mode_switch |
| 18:23.50 | goron | add Mod3 = Mode_switch |
| 18:24.07 | goron | It seems there's an error in line 2. |
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| 18:24.23 | doktoreas | sorry guys if i am always here |
| 18:24.33 | Jacobo221 | Blissex: oh really? i thought that messy stuff came from krn :S well, then take s/kernel/xserver/g ;) |
| 18:24.35 | Blissex | Jacobo221: you could _conceivably_ do an app that listens for Ctrl and Alt keycode events, and then removes them and inserts an AltGr jeybode. |
| 18:24.36 | doktoreas | but i can't found the applet for monitoring the battery |
| 18:25.09 | Blissex | Jacobo221: I think that the X API allows you both to delete ''real'' key events and insert ''synthentic'' ones, but it gets hairy. |
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| 18:25.46 | _poison | konsole does not remember the history size beeing set to unlimited =/ |
| 18:26.07 | goron | _poison: it does. |
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| 18:26.17 | goron | _poison: you have to press save |
| 18:26.20 | _poison | goron: in 3.4.1 ? |
| 18:26.31 | goron | _poison: let me check |
| 18:26.32 | darix | where can i complain if i have problems with creating an account on bugs.kde.org? |
| 18:26.43 | doktoreas | no one uses kde on laptop? |
| 18:26.50 | rr72 | kde-dev? |
| 18:27.04 | rr72 | developer chan |
| 18:27.25 | goron | _poison: works for me |
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| 18:28.34 | darix | rr72: quite empty in kde-dev :) |
| 18:28.46 | silent_runner | hello whats the default sound device for kde |
| 18:28.51 | darix | arts |
| 18:28.56 | silent_runner | i.e:/dev/dsp |
| 18:29.20 | silent_runner | my problem is i only get sound from my front left speaker |
| 18:29.27 | silent_runner | its driving me nutz |
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| 18:29.53 | rr72 | brb |
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| 18:30.53 | rr72 | why do u have to be identified to join this chan? |
| 18:30.59 | rr72 | when i am identified? |
| 18:31.50 | rr72 | aseigo~ did u change somin? |
| 18:32.01 | aseigo | rr72: no |
| 18:32.12 | rr72 | has it always been like that? |
| 18:32.20 | aseigo | and AFAIK you don't need to be using a registered nick to join #kde |
| 18:32.30 | aseigo | what makes you think you do? |
| 18:32.32 | rr72 | --- #kde :You need to be identified to join that channel |
| 18:32.51 | rr72 | is it the +r mode? |
| 18:32.59 | aseigo | hrm. wtf. |
| 18:33.02 | aseigo | let's test this. |
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| 18:33.07 | StevenR | rr72: you are in #kde..what's the problem? |
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| 18:33.34 | aseigo | ok that's fucked up. let's fix this shall we =) |
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| 18:33.42 | rr72 | we shall |
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| 18:34.06 | rr72 | ;) |
| 18:34.07 | StevenR | aseigo: we had a spambot earlier and Phil accidentally set some modes |
| 18:34.26 | silent_runner | which device in /dev/ does kde use for audio by default |
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| 18:35.09 | rr72 | ty |
| 18:35.12 | rr72 | its a pita |
| 18:35.13 | Blissex | silent_runner: it autoprobes. |
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| 18:35.36 | aseigo_home | there |
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| 18:38.27 | choi | hello~ |
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| 18:38.40 | choi | does anyone have problem that toolbar icons are missing? |
| 18:39.09 | seekHim | choi: which app, and which icons? |
| 18:39.19 | choi | every single apps |
| 18:39.23 | choi | minimize |
| 18:39.33 | choi | and maximize and close button on the right corner side |
| 18:39.48 | choi | i have to close with ctrl+q |
| 18:40.27 | choi | do you have any idea? |
| 18:40.32 | seekHim | So it's not the toolbar icons, it's the windowbar icons (icons that reside in the coloured bar at the top of your windows) |
| 18:40.44 | choi | yeah... :) |
| 18:40.49 | choi | those ones. |
| 18:41.32 | Tegelane | hi, how can i get kdelibs4 to compile? in kdelibs/kdeui/qxembed.cpp i get errors about 2 missing header files, private/qwidget_p.h and private/qt_x11_p.h |
| 18:42.16 | seekHim | choi: right click on the title bar > advanced > special window settings |
| 18:43.17 | choi | yeah and then? |
| 18:43.20 | choi | i looked at there.. |
| 18:43.24 | choi | but it's every apps |
| 18:43.37 | seekHim | choi: That'll fix it for every app. |
| 18:43.49 | choi | oh.. |
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| 18:44.13 | seekHim | wait... I sent you in the wrong direction. |
| 18:44.23 | choi | ok ok.. |
| 18:44.38 | seekHim | right click > configure window behaviour. |
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| 18:45.08 | seekHim | Yes, that's right. Then click on buttons. |
| 18:45.22 | choi | yeap |
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| 18:46.02 | choi | wowo.. |
| 18:46.05 | choi | got it .. thanks a lot |
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| 18:48.33 | seekHim | choi: any time. Glad I could help :) |
| 18:48.40 | choi | thanks.. :) |
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| 19:49.40 | lane | Hi all. I'm an aspiring developer, interested in working on KDE (digikam, specifically). Does anyone know of a good way to access Perl library APIs from within a C++ KDE app? |
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| 20:26.11 | IIVQ | hi |
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| 20:26.54 | IIVQ | wjat is the thing again that makes it possible to create individual icons for all your memorysticks or such? |
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| 20:43.22 | PhilOut | jjholt: yes, as long as you're careful |
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| 20:55.15 | learning | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:55.15 | learning | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:55.36 | learning | UNinstalling and reinstalling does not fix the problem |
| 20:55.47 | PhilRod | ~undefined-symbol |
| 20:55.51 | seekHim | learning: It sounds like you're missing something. |
| 20:55.53 | PhilRod | ~undefine-symbol |
| 20:55.59 | PhilRod | ~kdelinks |
| 20:55.59 | apt | [kdelinks] http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=apt+Bot+For+User+Support |
| 20:56.20 | lilalinux | Is it possible to see in korganizer a list of _all_ (coming) events? |
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| 20:57.18 | seekHim | learning: What distro do you have? |
| 20:57.27 | learning | Mandrake 10.0 |
| 20:57.44 | PhilRod | learning: make sure that all your KDE packages are the same version (kdelibs, kdebase, arts, k3b, ...) |
| 20:57.51 | learning | before they changed to Mandriva |
| 20:57.57 | seekHim | learning: Ok. Give me a sec. |
| 20:58.16 | seekHim | learning: I'm looking for the package. |
| 20:58.22 | learning | They are, PhilRod. They came from the same set of CDs |
| 20:58.42 | learning | I HOPE that means they are matched :) |
| 20:59.13 | seekHim | learning: They should be, but y'never know with Mandrake. Especially if it's Community. |
| 20:59.33 | PhilRod | hrm, well it *should* - you might want to check in #mandrake (or wherever) to see if someone has the same error |
| 20:59.35 | learning | It's not, it's a final |
| 20:59.59 | seekHim | PhilRod: He was just there. We sent him here. :) |
| 21:00.05 | PhilRod | oh, I see :-) |
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| 21:00.49 | seekHim | funny thing is, I can't find anything providing cdimage on my system, yet k3b works like a champ :) |
| 21:01.10 | seekHim | doctorwhite: I have this pain in my knee, doc..... |
| 21:02.10 | doctorwhite | yea? |
| 21:02.30 | seekHim | yeah.... Can you do anything to fix it? |
| 21:02.54 | doctorwhite | hmm |
| 21:03.07 | doctorwhite | how do u suggest i fix it? |
| 21:03.09 | Alethes | hmm, there's only one thing that sucks about rss feed aggrators. They make my news reading more efficient and that makes it harder for me to kill time :) |
| 21:03.26 | PhilRod | learning: googling for 'k3b "undefined symbol" mandrake' gets some hits - you might want to take a look at those |
| 21:03.36 | PhilRod | although they might not be immediately related to your problem |
| 21:03.42 | seekHim | doctorwhite: Well, maybe it's a problem in the libs in my brain..... It runs kde, you know :) |
| 21:04.24 | learning | Will do, PhilRod |
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| 21:05.28 | PhilRod | learning: are you running k3b under !KDE? |
| 21:06.04 | doctorwhite | anyone use apollon? |
| 21:06.50 | PhilRod | #apollon |
| 21:07.10 | doctorwhite | they r dead in there |
| 21:07.20 | doctorwhite | no response |
| 21:08.20 | PhilRod | ok |
| 21:08.34 | doctorwhite | u use it? |
| 21:10.08 | PhilRod | nope |
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| 21:13.33 | Frost^ | that konqueror quick filter feature is buggy. and no one seems to take a look at my bug report :\ |
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| 21:17.09 | mops_ | I have installed kde and gnome and using fluxbox :) |
| 21:17.25 | mops_ | but when I click on web link in thunderbird |
| 21:17.45 | mops_ | it opens 2 times - one in the konqueror windo and another time in thunderbird |
| 21:18.02 | mops_ | how can I turn off that konqueror opening pls? |
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| 21:19.18 | mops_ | I have set in kcontrol->kde components->component chooser->web browser "/usr/bin/mozilla-firefox" |
| 21:19.40 | mops_ | pls help me if you know... |
| 21:19.41 | benJIman | sounds like a thunderbird setting you need to change |
| 21:20.02 | mops_ | hmm, that's good idea |
| 21:20.17 | mops_ | I'll try to look for it |
| 21:21.28 | _poison | has kde got it's own screensavers or does it use xscreensaver ? |
| 21:21.38 | lauri | both |
| 21:22.05 | lauri | (it has some of it's own, and you can use xscreensaver hacks as well, via the kscreensaver kcontrol module) |
| 21:22.50 | _poison | lauri: if I can use xscreensavers why do only a few of them appear ? |
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| 21:23.37 | tman_ | whenever I start KDE there's a "false pointer" that stays in one place and is displayed on top of everything.. any suggestions on getting it to go away? |
| 21:23.42 | tman_ | I'm thinking that if it didn't restore the previous session or I deleted it or something I could make it go away, but I'm not sure how to do that |
| 21:24.28 | lauri | a 'false pointer' ? |
| 21:24.40 | lauri | like, a shadow of a cursor or something? |
| 21:24.43 | lauri | that sounds very very odd |
| 21:24.46 | tman_ | yeah, like a mouse pointer that doesn't move |
| 21:25.14 | lauri | and it's on *top* of everything? |
| 21:25.17 | tman_ | yeah |
| 21:25.53 | tman_ | including the real pointer |
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| 21:28.14 | tman_ | lauri: do you know where the 'session info' file is stored? maybe deleting it would hel |
| 21:28.18 | tman_ | help?* |
| 21:29.09 | lauri | .kde/share/apps/ksmserver I think |
| 21:29.28 | tman_ | thx |
| 21:29.29 | lauri | It doesn't sound so much like a session thing though, it sounds like a bug in the drivr |
| 21:29.30 | lauri | driver |
| 21:29.53 | lauri | (do you use an xcursor theme? does it stop doing it if you change xcursor theme?) |
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| 21:33.07 | tman_ | I'll try that |
| 21:36.03 | tman_ | hmm |
| 21:36.12 | tman_ | the cursor stays the same, keeps the old theme |
| 21:36.42 | tman_ | I didn't mess with the session btw.. ~/.kde/share/apps/ksmserver doesn't exist |
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| 21:39.20 | tman_ | lauri: you there? |
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| 21:44.15 | lauri | yes, sorry, was involved in another discussion |
| 21:44.36 | lauri | that really sounds like a driver bug (and I didn't look up where the ksmserver sessions are kept yet, that was a guess) |
| 21:45.18 | lauri | ~/.kde/share/config/session |
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| 21:46.05 | tman_ | thx |
| 21:49.27 | tman_ | argh |
| 21:49.33 | tman_ | doesn't work :s |
| 21:49.39 | tman_ | I'll try rebooting |
| 21:50.16 | PhilRod | the nvidia drivers have a "HardwareCursor" option in xorg.conf, I think |
| 21:51.41 | tman_ | lol, rebooting fixed it |
| 21:51.47 | mops_ | I have gnome and kde together, but I'm using fluxbox |
| 21:51.51 | tman_ | should've tried that from the beginning |
| 21:51.58 | mops_ | I have set the default browser in both to firefox |
| 21:52.10 | mops_ | but when I click in thunderbird on url link |
| 21:52.33 | mops_ | that link is opened twice- once in firefox and another time in konqueror |
| 21:52.47 | mops_ | how can I get rid of that STUPID KONQUEROR PLEASE? |
| 21:52.53 | mops_ | please help me if you know... :( |
| 21:53.36 | thiago | mops_: if you click a URL on a KDE application, what happens? |
| 21:53.48 | mops_ | thiago: konqueror |
| 21:53.51 | thiago | like konversation, kopete, kmail, etc. |
| 21:54.37 | mops_ | thiago: I set it manually to firefox and thunderbird |
| 21:54.38 | mops_ | but it has no effect I think... |
| 21:54.39 | benJIman | thats because thunderbird isn't a kde app |
| 21:54.40 | thiago | did you set it in the KDE Control Centre? |
| 21:54.43 | benJIman | it will be a thunderbird setting |
| 21:54.57 | mops_ | thiago: yes, right there |
| 21:55.10 | mops_ | benJIman: don't you know why, do you? |
| 21:55.28 | lauri | benJIman: it is a kde-wide setting |
| 21:55.47 | benJIman | lauri: yes, but mops_ says it's links in thunderbird, which isn't a kde app... |
| 21:55.47 | mops_ | I just can't understand it... |
| 21:55.49 | lauri | thiago: what, exactly, did you put as the preferred browser? |
| 21:55.57 | thiago | mops_: so, you have "Open http and https URLs in" and you typed the path to firefox |
| 21:56.02 | thiago | lauri: mops_, not me |
| 21:56.09 | lauri | heh, sorry |
| 21:56.10 | mops_ | thiago: JUST like that :) |
| 21:56.16 | lauri | braino (I know you know what to put where) |
| 21:56.23 | thiago | mops_: and if you click on a URL on konversation, it opens Konqueror? |
| 21:56.39 | mops_ | I don't use KDE so I don't know |
| 21:56.46 | mops_ | wait I will look in it |
| 21:56.48 | mops_ | brb |
| 21:56.59 | thiago | mops_: I've just asked what happens if you click a URL on a KDE program |
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| 21:58.02 | tman_ | hmm.. how *do* you set your default browser? |
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| 21:58.54 | mops_ | I DON'T use KDE, do you understand? |
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| 21:58.58 | PhilRod | I'm pretty sure that one's in the FAQ |
| 21:59.04 | mops_ | and I set it just like I said it |
| 21:59.25 | benJIman | mops_: the kde default browser won't apply to thunderbird,because thunderbird isn't a kde app |
| 21:59.39 | thiago | mops_: if you don't use other KDE applications, then the KDE setting isn't used anywhere |
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| 21:59.50 | mops_ | benJIman: so how it is posible that it opens link in konqeuror - native KDE app... |
| 21:59.51 | thiago | mops_: the KDE setting, and #kde help by the way, only applies to KDE applications |
| 22:00.02 | benJIman | mops_: there must be a thunderbird setting |
| 22:00.08 | thiago | mops_: firefox and thunderbird are not KDE applications. They have their own settings. |
| 22:00.23 | mops_ | beJIman: thunderbid men said that there ISN'T :(( |
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| 22:00.51 | thiago | mops_: so how does thunderbird choose the browser it runs? |
| 22:01.03 | mops_ | ok I KNOW that they are not KDE apps, but what the fuck has the stupid konqueror do with them??? |
| 22:01.21 | mops_ | thiago: I don't know |
| 22:01.24 | mops_ | and nobody know |
| 22:01.27 | benJIman | mops_: calm down , thunderbird presumably has a setting somewhere which is set to open things in konqueror |
| 22:01.32 | mops_ | I was searching the net |
| 22:01.34 | thiago | benJIman: or a GNOME setting |
| 22:01.36 | benJIman | yes |
| 22:01.39 | thiago | in gconf |
| 22:01.42 | benJIman | mops_: ask in a thunderbird channel perhaps |
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| 22:01.54 | mops_ | I'm calm, but just unhappy :(( |
| 22:02.01 | mops_ | benJIman: I did also... |
| 22:02.10 | mops_ | and gnome settings, yes, I have set it to |
| 22:02.15 | benJIman | mops_: well it's not anything todo with kde |
| 22:02.16 | mops_ | use firefox as a default browser |
| 22:02.43 | mops_ | benJIman: but it MUST to do anything with kde because konqueror is app FROM kde |
| 22:03.04 | PhilRod | mops_: no - completely wrong |
| 22:03.05 | benJIman | mops_: doesn't mean the settings a kde setting, you can type konqueror in a konsole and it will start it |
| 22:03.16 | benJIman | s/console/gnome terminal/ |
| 22:03.21 | mops_ | I know |
| 22:03.27 | mops_ | so I was wrong... |
| 22:03.39 | mops_ | but logicaly it simply doesn't fit together for me... :( |
| 22:03.43 | thiago | mops_: if something runs Konqueror, konqueror is run |
| 22:03.46 | thiago | mops_: it's that simple |
| 22:04.00 | thiago | mops_: the KDE setting we have taught you is to tell KDE apps not to run konqueror |
| 22:04.12 | mops_ | ok, ok |
| 22:04.19 | mops_ | thank you ALL for your help |
| 22:04.22 | thiago | mops_: unfortunately, if another app runs konqueror, there's nothing that we can do |
| 22:04.40 | mops_ | ok, ok I know that |
| 22:04.59 | mops_ | I just thought that if it was konqueror it would be KDE that set that... |
| 22:06.58 | StevenR | mops_: google knows: http://www.mozilla.org/projects/thunderbird/linuxurls.html |
| 22:10.06 | mops_ | thanks a lot! |
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| 22:15.26 | tman_ | I can't seem to find where to set my default browser |
| 22:16.19 | mops_ | tman_: kcontrol->kde components-> web browser |
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| 22:16.57 | mops_ | kde components-> component chooser-> web browser |
| 22:16.57 | mops_ | sorry |
| 22:17.12 | lauri | mops_: that sets it *for KDE*, you said you don't use kde |
| 22:17.13 | tman_ | ah |
| 22:17.16 | lauri | you need to set it in what you do use |
| 22:17.30 | mops_ | lauri: that was help for tman_ :) |
| 22:17.58 | mops_ | tman_: works well? |
| 22:18.13 | tman_ | yeah |
| 22:18.23 | mops_ | njoy :) |
| 22:18.28 | tman_ | thanks |
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| 22:52.56 | _peter | Jemand da? |
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| 22:53.55 | Blues-Man | hello |
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| 22:54.51 | Blues-Man | does kde 3.4 use less memory than previous recently version? |
| 22:55.06 | annma | 1) depends on what you run |
| 22:55.21 | annma | 2) yes for KDE progs |
| 22:55.29 | Blues-Man | the system base yes |
| 22:55.48 | annma | what do you mean by system base? |
| 22:56.06 | Blues-Man | kde 3.4 default progs |
| 22:56.17 | annma | there are no default per see |
| 22:56.28 | annma | what was your problem exactly? |
| 22:56.59 | Blues-Man | I haven't a lot of ram |
| 22:57.08 | annma | how much? |
| 22:57.09 | Blues-Man | and I would use kde 3.4 instead of |
| 22:57.11 | Blues-Man | 3.3 |
| 22:57.16 | Blues-Man | 128 mb on a celeron 800 |
| 22:57.23 | Blues-Man | I'm using kde 3.3.2 |
| 22:57.35 | annma | distro? |
| 22:57.41 | Blues-Man | debian sarge |
| 22:57.46 | annma | hmmm |
| 22:58.15 | annma | 128 is not much |
| 22:58.43 | annma | you can get 3.4, I don't think it'll be worse than 3.3 |
| 22:58.44 | Blues-Man | yes I know but is a laptop and ram for that costs :/ |
| 22:58.51 | Blues-Man | and better?:) |
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| 22:59.23 | annma | better? not sure |
| 22:59.42 | annma | I have no idea |
| 23:00.22 | Blues-Man | I'm downloading klax to have a preview of it , I know that is beatiful I hope is also more cheeper than 3.3 about ram |
| 23:02.18 | Blues-Man | does it use qt4? |
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| 23:08.11 | Blues-Man | thank you for infos bye |
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| 23:25.46 | winslayer | Hello All. Could anyone help with my question? Here goes... How do I make newly opened apps go to a new desktop (accumulatively)? |
| 23:26.44 | StevenR | winslayer: what do you mean exactly? |
| 23:26.49 | winslayer | ie, new desktop opens automatically with each new app |
| 23:27.01 | StevenR | i don't think tha't possible |
| 23:27.12 | winslayer | shame |
| 23:27.22 | winslayer | It's much cleaner |
| 23:27.40 | StevenR | winslayer: possibly you could script it...if there's a dcop command to create a new virtual desktop |
| 23:27.48 | StevenR | and use kstart to start the app |
| 23:28.12 | winslayer | currently I select from pager, my desktop #n then open app... |
| 23:29.18 | winslayer | The idea being that desktops are infinate in essence.. |
| 23:29.41 | StevenR | but they aren't afaik |
| 23:29.56 | winslayer | As for scripting, that's way above my understanding |
| 23:30.04 | StevenR | max is 20 |
| 23:30.38 | winslayer | Realistically, maybe now more than 10 windows ever likely to be needed |
| 23:30.55 | winslayer | 20 is fine ;o) |
| 23:31.38 | winslayer | Hmm... thinking.. |
| 23:32.09 | StevenR | winslayer: it might be possible to do it with dcop |
| 23:32.13 | StevenR | and some scripting |
| 23:32.54 | StevenR | if ur gonna be around for a little while i can try in a bit, busy writing a bit of report just now, but will be giving up for the night shortly |
| 23:32.54 | winslayer | are there any switches I can use eg mozilla-firefox <entries here> |
| 23:33.11 | StevenR | winslayer: kstart --help is your "starter for 10" |
| 23:34.23 | Dhraakellian | heh... I still have a .kde3.2 dir |
| 23:34.28 | winslayer | Nice of you to take a look SR :0) What do you think of this idea anyway? |
| 23:34.47 | StevenR | winslayer: it's bit strange, cos i rarely use more than one desktop |
| 23:34.55 | StevenR | but i'm curious |
| 23:35.28 | StevenR | dammit i need better light in here |
| 23:35.40 | winslayer | Well, i was the same for years under windows, but it gets too much having windows all shapes and sizes cluttering one desktop.. |
| 23:35.46 | StevenR | there's loads of it, just i need better quality light, and a better screen |
| 23:36.03 | StevenR | and a laptop, and .......goes off into iwanta land |
| 23:36.15 | StevenR | winslayer: i like hiding stuff in the systray |
| 23:36.27 | winslayer | how so? |
| 23:36.31 | StevenR | got 8 items hiding there just now |
| 23:37.03 | StevenR | klipper, irkick, gaim, xchat, akregator, kmail, amarok, kcheckgmail |
| 23:37.06 | winslayer | I just have clipper,kmix and korganiser that's all generally |
| 23:38.22 | winslayer | How do you do this then? |
| 23:38.47 | StevenR | ? |
| 23:39.32 | winslayer | well, apps tend to decide (ie running in background daemons etc) for them selves! |
| 23:39.54 | StevenR | what do you mean? |
| 23:40.23 | winslayer | with respect to using sys tray... |
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| 23:40.32 | StevenR | all those apps go into the systray by default or by me setting some config option |
| 23:40.49 | winslayer | can you do that with all apps then? |
| 23:41.09 | StevenR | using ksystraycmd or alltray or kstart, yes |
| 23:41.21 | winslayer | like gimp, OO for instance |
| 23:41.54 | StevenR | yup, use ^ |
| 23:41.57 | benJIman | StevenR: does kcheckgmail still work for you? kde-apps.org still only has 0.5.3 which broke some time ago for me |
| 23:42.28 | StevenR | benJIman: seems to work, i don't use my account much, so i'm not sure |
| 23:43.00 | winslayer | Ok, I'll try it out. Thx :0) |
| 23:43.02 | StevenR | benJIman: doesn't seem anything broken about it, sure it has the big stupid password bug, but i don't seem to get the effects of that |
| 23:43.20 | benJIman | StevenR: well it won't login for me |
| 23:43.23 | StevenR | winslayer: i'll be back in a bit if you still want to try one app one desktop thing |
| 23:43.32 | winslayer | OK great. |
| 23:43.39 | StevenR | benJIman: remove the config file and try again |
| 23:45.11 | winslayer | Btw, SR just for your info I'm running Kanotix kde3.4.1 :0)) |
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| 23:56.45 | abofaisal | I'm using KDE on an iMac DV running Debian Sarge. I prefer to use KDE's Macintosh command modifiers, since I use OS X alongside Linux. They work fine in KDE /unless/ one is using keyboard switching between two different languages. The minute one switches the keyboard's language, the Macintosh command modifier is overwritten, and it goes back to PC modifiers. Does anyone know a work around for this? |