| 00:00.08 | macavity | often its because it "closes too far" |
| 00:00.14 | Jahooty | too far? cool |
| 00:00.21 | Jahooty | so a gear got jumped a few cogs maybe? |
| 00:00.30 | Jahooty | do they put aligning marks on the gears? |
| 00:00.34 | macavity | meaning that the drive is closed before the servo stops pulling |
| 00:00.46 | Jahooty | ahh |
| 00:00.47 | Jahooty | ok |
| 00:01.04 | Jahooty | at least sthat one is in a tool-less case |
| 00:01.13 | macavity | just hit close, and then grap the sled and "resist" a bit |
| 00:01.29 | Surfdue_ | reset it Jahooty |
| 00:01.38 | Jahooty | reset? |
| 00:01.42 | Surfdue_ | get a paper clip and put it through the gear reset hole |
| 00:01.44 | Surfdue_ | in the front |
| 00:01.46 | Jahooty | ahh |
| 00:01.52 | Surfdue_ | you should have it all have it well most |
| 00:01.55 | macavity | the Mac-hole :P |
| 00:02.12 | Jahooty | yeah it does, i used it to help take it apart to loook inside, and in fact after i had done that it worked ok for a bit |
| 00:02.39 | macavity | the "pull the sled" has worked for me too |
| 00:02.43 | Jahooty | i just threw away the paper clip i had prepared too |
| 00:04.34 | Jahooty | cool, seems to have worked |
| 00:04.58 | Jahooty | now...does anyone know how to make one of those 'starbucks' cds? the westwood audio disk that some places use instead of muzak? |
| 00:05.07 | Jahooty | it's basically a bunch of mp2's packaged |
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| 00:09.40 | Jahooty | thanks guys tho, for your help, it works fine now |
| 00:09.58 | Jahooty | what about a drive getting stuck closed? |
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| 00:16.38 | Surfdue_ | Jahooty, use the reset hole |
| 00:16.43 | Surfdue_ | with a paper clip |
| 00:16.45 | Surfdue_ | it will open it |
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| 00:17.25 | albeit_ | In KDE, is there any way to automatically allow programs to popen KDEWallet without me having to type in a password? |
| 00:17.33 | albeit_ | *open |
| 00:17.53 | Jahooty | that might defeat the entire purpose |
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| 00:18.10 | Jahooty | but you might be able to write a script that would supply the wallet password each time it's requested |
| 00:18.18 | Surfdue_ | anyone know why my ethernet pcmia cards disables right after enable |
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| 00:19.11 | Amyrlion | why can't I take screenshots of windows that displays video? just a blue screen appears on the shot? |
| 00:19.57 | Surfdue_ | bsod~ |
| 00:19.59 | Surfdue_ | AHH! |
| 00:20.00 | Surfdue_ | :P |
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| 00:20.36 | HuntsMan | Amyrlion: that happens because the video is put directly on the screen by the video card |
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| 00:21.14 | Amyrlion | HuntsMan: possible to change that? since I've seen shots with video sequences on them. |
| 00:21.33 | HuntsMan | change the video driver to X11 or something like that |
| 00:21.42 | HuntsMan | chances are that youre using Xv |
| 00:21.44 | Amyrlion | the only app I succeeded to take a shot on is Xine |
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| 00:49.16 | Jahooty | probably because in that mode there is no actual video in the window? it's added seperately by the program? or something like that |
| 00:49.58 | Surfdue_ | night |
| 00:50.06 | Jahooty | any luck with the wireless? |
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| 00:54.55 | newbie | where the translations for branch_3.5 |
| 00:55.34 | illogic-al | trunk methinks |
| 00:56.04 | newbie | illogic-al: didnt i asked for branch_3.5? |
| 00:56.50 | illogic-al | newbie: didn't I answer trunk/ |
| 00:57.05 | newbie | exactly and makes no sense |
| 00:57.20 | newbie | for that wouldnt exist a translation for other bracnhes |
| 00:57.37 | illogic-al | "For translations, nothing changed as /trunk/l10n is generated from KDE 3.5 as planned." |
| 00:57.51 | illogic-al | so coolo hath said. so let it be. |
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| 00:58.09 | newbie | theres always differences, for that wouldnt have been created branch_3.5 |
| 00:58.29 | Dhraakellian | http://sp.allalone.org/gallery/screenshots/KDE_20050728 |
| 00:59.06 | newbie | Dhraakellian: too dark |
| 00:59.24 | Dhraakellian | newbie, I respectfully disagree |
| 00:59.51 | newbie | i like the 2� |
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| 01:01.00 | illogic-al | hahah. funny. |
| 01:01.00 | Dhraakellian | two degrees? |
| 01:01.50 | newbie | second |
| 01:02.56 | Dhraakellian | the second screenshot in that album? |
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| 01:04.39 | canllaith | lolol |
| 01:04.46 | canllaith | so we have mass joinage now |
| 01:05.10 | heliocastro | Shark free place :-) |
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| 01:05.14 | canllaith | hahaha |
| 01:05.41 | birchoff | is there any specific order kde packages should be installed in... Iam using the slackware binaries |
| 01:05.51 | canllaith | Not really |
| 01:05.57 | canllaith | Just install all of them before starting it |
| 01:06.00 | mpyne | arts, kdesupport, kdelibs, kdebase, *everything else*, kdeaddons |
| 01:06.13 | canllaith | It makes no difference if you're not compiling |
| 01:06.19 | canllaith | and your package manager has no dependancy checking |
| 01:06.22 | mpyne | Oh yeah, binaries. =D |
| 01:06.25 | canllaith | hehehe |
| 01:06.49 | wsjunior | kdesupport? |
| 01:07.01 | mpyne | wsjunior: Contains taglib if you're using JuK or amarok. |
| 01:07.03 | canllaith | has taglib in it..... and no tmuch else |
| 01:07.05 | birchoff | good... just installed 3.4.1.... I plan on going to 3.4.2 but I want to compile that myself using the instructions on the kde site |
| 01:07.09 | mpyne | Or the konqueror kfile-previews. |
| 01:07.38 | mpyne | canllaith: It also has the QCA lib and now it has the aKode sound decoding lib. |
| 01:07.43 | illogic-al | Dhraakellian: mine(s) http://illogic-al.org/~orville/screenshots.html |
| 01:07.56 | heliocastro | mpyne: Not regular.. Packagers ( like me ) usually not compile kdesupport |
| 01:08.16 | heliocastro | mpyne: We deal directly with external lib packages |
| 01:08.19 | canllaith | mpyne: Ah, nice to know :) |
| 01:08.26 | birchoff | where is the control panel for kde |
| 01:08.36 | heliocastro | birchoff: kcontrol ? |
| 01:08.39 | canllaith | Kmenu -> Control Center ? |
| 01:08.43 | canllaith | Or kcontrol from the command line |
| 01:09.03 | mpyne | Or the minicli (Alt-F2) |
| 01:09.04 | birchoff | its not there |
| 01:09.16 | birchoff | did I not install something |
| 01:09.17 | mpyne | It's a part of kdebase. |
| 01:09.17 | canllaith | Do as mpyne suggested and type 'kcontrol' |
| 01:09.39 | canllaith | Unless you're using gentoo split ebuilds, in which case trot along to #gentoo. |
| 01:10.51 | Dhraakellian | or #gentoo-kde |
| 01:11.22 | newbie | im building kde-3.5 |
| 01:11.35 | birchoff | nope kdebase is installed |
| 01:11.44 | newbie | only missing translation files to this release |
| 01:13.09 | illogic-al | newbie: it's gonna be in trunk no matter how many times you ask |
| 01:13.18 | newbie | lol |
| 01:13.21 | newbie | yea shore |
| 01:13.35 | canllaith | No.. you got us |
| 01:13.38 | canllaith | we hid them. |
| 01:13.50 | canllaith | Specially to annoy you |
| 01:14.17 | hydrogen | i wouldn't doubt it |
| 01:14.24 | newbie | if so far all branches have there files, including translations, why a different behaviour for this branch? |
| 01:14.25 | illogic-al | heheh |
| 01:14.43 | newbie | makes no sense |
| 01:14.46 | illogic-al | because coolo said so and he is mighty |
| 01:14.52 | mpyne | Not sure but I'm sure the translation group had a good reason. |
| 01:15.08 | mpyne | I'd guess it's because "This is a neato string" doesn't often change translations.... |
| 01:15.08 | canllaith | I think you'll have to grab the translations for 3.4 at this stage |
| 01:15.18 | canllaith | because we haven't had string freeze for translations yet for 3.5 |
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| 01:15.22 | newbie | yes, best bet is wait |
| 01:15.32 | canllaith | So I imagine we don't have any. |
| 01:15.50 | canllaith | usually the previous stuff is in head/trunk but everything has been moved around |
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| 01:17.50 | SmartUnix | Hello |
| 01:17.59 | illogic-al | newbie: say cheese |
| 01:18.21 | illogic-al | www.illogic-al.org/~orville/images/temp/just-for_newbie.png |
| 01:18.32 | SmartUnix | question please ? |
| 01:18.37 | illogic-al | www.illogic-al.org/~orville/images/temp/just_for_newbie.png |
| 01:18.42 | canllaith | SmartUnix: just ask :) |
| 01:18.54 | SmartUnix | ok |
| 01:19.19 | SmartUnix | i have install miniSlack , and it's use Xfce i want to install KDE how ? |
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| 01:20.06 | Alethes | if you do that, miniSlack won't be so mini :) |
| 01:20.09 | canllaith | SmartUnix: apparently there are KDE packages in the packages section of the minislack website |
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| 01:20.26 | mpyne | Maybe he wants KDE on a system without all the rest of the fluff. :P |
| 01:20.29 | SmartUnix | <Alethes> ;) |
| 01:20.30 | birchoff | excellent |
| 01:20.34 | canllaith | http://www.minislack.org/filemgmt/viewcat.php?cid=25 |
| 01:20.45 | birchoff | now how do I get kde to not list gnome apps |
| 01:20.55 | canllaith | Uninstall gnome! :D |
| 01:20.59 | birchoff | lol |
| 01:21.14 | SmartUnix | :) |
| 01:21.16 | birchoff | cant... I still like gnome |
| 01:21.22 | canllaith | I'm kidding. Um manually edit your kmenu is probably easiest |
| 01:21.34 | birchoff | main reasin I am reinstalling kde is because ANJUTA BLOWS CHUNKS |
| 01:21.41 | birchoff | HUGE MASSIVE COMMET SIZED CHUNKS |
| 01:21.45 | SmartUnix | is slackware hard for newbie ? |
| 01:21.50 | birchoff | not really |
| 01:21.56 | newbie | SmartUnix: its cool |
| 01:22.01 | illogic-al | lol |
| 01:22.05 | newbie | ehehehhe |
| 01:22.05 | grepper | it's be nice to have a "put gnome apps in seperate gnome menu" option |
| 01:22.07 | canllaith | Slackware rocks. |
| 01:22.13 | birchoff | but I am wierd... If you dont mind having to hand configure your linux distro |
| 01:22.14 | birchoff | then no |
| 01:22.15 | canllaith | Well, talk to bloody freedesktop.org about that |
| 01:22.23 | illogic-al | newbie: soooo, where are the 3.5 translations? |
| 01:22.27 | wsjunior | I estimate the chance for 3.4.3 |
| 01:22.27 | wsjunior | to 50:50. |
| 01:22.32 | wsjunior | wow |
| 01:22.42 | SmartUnix | ok , miniskack is based on slackware and i an new in linux world |
| 01:22.47 | canllaith | Personally I wish KDE & Gnome desktop + .desktop files weren't the same |
| 01:23.17 | illogic-al | why? you don't use gnome do you? |
| 01:23.19 | newbie | illogic-al: i prefer wait that them be created in branch3.5, dont waste time translating strings that will dispappear or change |
| 01:23.56 | wsjunior | stephan kulow said that |
| 01:23.57 | illogic-al | newbie: I just wanna hear you say it. c'mon you can do it. |
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| 01:24.06 | newbie | illogic-al: but still makes no sense get translations from trunk for a branch |
| 01:24.49 | SmartUnix | http://www.minislack.org/filemgmt/viewcat.php?cid=25 , download these files to install KDE ? |
| 01:26.00 | canllaith | looks like it |
| 01:26.25 | SmartUnix | :D , ok then what should i do ? |
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| 01:32.17 | newbie | SmartUnix: nothing |
| 01:32.35 | SmartUnix | what do you mean :\ |
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| 01:32.42 | newbie | didnt u read it? |
| 01:32.55 | newbie | so why u continue asking |
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| 01:33.21 | SmartUnix | ok i am sorry :) |
| 01:33.40 | beergeek | anybody know where the ACPI settings are kept under ~/.kde? |
| 01:34.20 | mpyne | SmartUnix: Unfortunately I'm not familiar with MiniSlack so I'm not sure how their package manager works. |
| 01:34.22 | newbie | beergeek: no need to know where, just right click kcmlaptop and configure it |
| 01:34.36 | mpyne | Ideally you'd download the files and use whatever package manager MiniSlack uses to install it. |
| 01:34.37 | newbie | i mean Klaptop |
| 01:34.44 | birchoff | okay, why is it the KDE Menu editor isnt changing anything |
| 01:34.51 | birchoff | is there something I am not doing |
| 01:35.07 | mpyne | Did you click Save? I don't think the changes are saved by default. |
| 01:35.12 | birchoff | yes |
| 01:35.25 | birchoff | then it shows the updating configuration dialog |
| 01:35.43 | newbie | beergeek: the file to configure it, is ~/kde/share/config/kcmlaptoprc |
| 01:35.48 | birchoff | but when I open the kmenu again it isnt saved |
| 01:35.50 | mpyne | Not sure, I just tried it and it works fine here. :-/ |
| 01:36.10 | grepper | birchoff: you could try "dcop kicker kicker restart" |
| 01:36.34 | mpyne | Maybe, but that's what the updating system configuration dialog was supposed to do. |
| 01:36.45 | beergeek | newbie: Thanks :) I was trying to get ACPI working and now my laptop reboots everytime I log into KDE.... I am running fluxbox now trying to figure out how to fix it |
| 01:36.48 | SmartUnix | <mpyne> thanks i will googling ;) |
| 01:37.04 | newbie | fluxbox isnt kde |
| 01:37.05 | birchoff | grepper, no luck still hasnt changed |
| 01:37.05 | beergeek | newbie: Going to blow away the config and test it out :) |
| 01:37.27 | mpyne | newbie: He's running fluxbox because KDE keeps restarting his laptop. ;) |
| 01:37.39 | newbie | humm |
| 01:37.56 | newbie | there others apps to handle acpi... |
| 01:38.12 | beergeek | I'm trying to just remove the kcmlaptop config file and see if that resets it to the default |
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| 01:39.16 | beergeek | That worked.... Thanks guys :) |
| 01:39.28 | newbie | beergeek: yout welcome |
| 01:39.32 | newbie | your* |
| 01:41.07 | birchoff | is there any log file I can check to see why the menu editor isnt working |
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| 01:43.13 | mpyne | birchoff: You could maybe try running kmenuedit from a command line (konsole). |
| 01:43.27 | birchoff | just tried that |
| 01:43.31 | birchoff | got a error |
| 01:43.48 | birchoff | X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3 |
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| 01:45.18 | birchoff | grrr.... |
| 01:45.33 | birchoff | oh well I guess I will have to just search the net for an answer |
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| 01:46.29 | grepper | birchoff: you could try to remove /var/tmp/kdecache-$USER/ksycoca* stuff and rerunning |
| 01:46.47 | grepper | kbuildsycoca --noincremental |
| 01:46.51 | birchoff | whats in that folder |
| 01:47.07 | grepper | the cache |
| 01:47.12 | mpyne | That folder has most of the information that KDE keeps cached (web pages, etc.) |
| 01:47.22 | mpyne | It also contains the system configuration database cache. |
| 01:47.29 | mpyne | Which is the ksycoca* part. |
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| 01:50.26 | birchoff | should kbuildsycoca --noincremental kick out warnings |
| 01:50.36 | mpyne | It might. |
| 01:50.47 | mpyne | Lots of .desktop files have errors or other problems. :( |
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| 01:53.03 | birchoff | how does kmenueditor work... does it remove stuff from a flat file or does it remove the actualy ".desktop" file |
| 01:53.17 | canllaith | It adds a flat xml file |
| 01:53.35 | canllaith | to iirc |
| 01:53.39 | canllaith | .config/menus/kmenuedit.menu |
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| 01:55.33 | birchoff | brb rebooting |
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| 02:01.07 | birchoff | ok that didnt work |
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| 02:08.19 | rutski89 | running "kfmclient openProfile webbrowsing" runs konq with no entry in the address bar, even though my homepage is google |
| 02:09.04 | birchoff | ok what file does kicker read when it loads |
| 02:09.26 | mpyne | birchoff: There's ~/.kde/share/config/kickerrc and ~/.kde/share/config/taskbarrc at the very least. |
| 02:09.38 | mpyne | Or are you talking about kmenu? |
| 02:09.43 | birchoff | kmenu |
| 02:11.26 | mpyne | It reads the system config cache. Apparently it also reads ~/.config/menus/applications-kmenuedit.menu |
| 02:11.39 | birchoff | where is the system config cache |
| 02:12.01 | mpyne | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:12.13 | mpyne | It gets generated by kbuildsycoca. |
| 02:12.17 | birchoff | because my kmenu doesnt look like it reads whats in applications-kmenuedit.menu |
| 02:12.33 | mpyne | The applications-kmenuedit.menu is a better bet, that's where the entries actually get excluded. |
| 02:14.22 | birchoff | so I see |
| 02:14.34 | birchoff | but I have edited applications-kmenuedit.menu |
| 02:14.40 | birchoff | and rm ksycoca* |
| 02:14.48 | birchoff | loaded kmenuedit |
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| 02:14.57 | birchoff | then removed what I wanted |
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| 02:15.08 | birchoff | unfortunately it doesnt change anything |
| 02:15.17 | mpyne | Then it looks like we have a bug. :( |
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| 02:15.57 | birchoff | looks so too |
| 02:16.03 | birchoff | what distro are you on |
| 02:16.11 | mpyne | Gentoo. |
| 02:16.11 | lord_crow | hiya� |
| 02:16.29 | mpyne | Bönjour |
| 02:17.14 | birchoff | I think the packages that were built wherent built properly |
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| 02:19.36 | birchoff | oh well I will just have to deal with that problem |
| 02:20.41 | lord_crow | arggg i'm quitting smoke and it's soooo dificult! |
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| 02:21.44 | mpyne | lord_crow: Good luck on it, smoking is teh suck. |
| 02:21.55 | Alethes | literally heh |
| 02:21.58 | mpyne | lol |
| 02:23.27 | birchoff | is there anywya to get rid of the hide arrow on a panel |
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| 02:24.19 | Alethes | yep |
| 02:24.38 | birchoff | how do I do this |
| 02:24.42 | Alethes | right-click on the panel, go to Configure Panel |
| 02:24.50 | Alethes | then go to the Hiding tab |
| 02:24.55 | lord_crow | i'm doing quite well, in this last week i was smoking like 3 cigarrettes a day, and before that i was smoking like 20 or 25 cigarettes a day... |
| 02:25.07 | lord_crow | and today just 2 cigarettes |
| 02:25.10 | Alethes | go to the middle section called "Panel-Hiding Buttons" |
| 02:25.30 | lord_crow | i'm hoping that tomorrow smoke just one... and after tomorrow none =) |
| 02:25.30 | birchoff | ok I think I may have to give up on gnome |
| 02:25.35 | birchoff | thank you so much |
| 02:25.41 | birchoff | I so hated that thing |
| 02:25.55 | Alethes | hehe |
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| 02:26.14 | mpyne | Why, don't you know they know exactly what features and options you need? ;) |
| 02:26.15 | birchoff | you have probably aided in my conversion |
| 02:26.58 | birchoff | now if I could only get rid of that damn arrow over the kmenu icon |
| 02:27.10 | Alethes | actually it's almost impossible to find the configuration options in kde until you dug around for the same item 15 times and finally remembered where it is |
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| 02:28.25 | birchoff | lol |
| 02:28.57 | mpyne | I usually go through the whole config dialog anyways. I'm an option whore. ;) |
| 02:31.28 | birchoff | can you move things on a panel |
| 02:31.35 | mpyne | Yes. |
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| 02:31.42 | mpyne | But it has to be unlocked first. |
| 02:31.56 | mpyne | Each applet when the panel is unlocked should have a grab zone on its left side. |
| 02:32.01 | marcusU | I haven't been able to access svn for the past few days. It just times out. |
| 02:32.13 | mpyne | And I belive you can move the KMenu and the app buttons by right-clicking on them and selecting move. |
| 02:33.28 | ElijahLofgren | You can also move them by clicking on them with the middle mouse button and dragging. |
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| 02:34.02 | marcusU | Hmmm. svn update works, but svn switch isn't. |
| 02:34.18 | birchoff | how do yoou unlock the panel |
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| 02:36.16 | ElijahLofgren | I didn't even know the panel could be locked. How do you lock it? |
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| 02:37.45 | mpyne | ElijahLofgren: Right-click on an empty spot in the taskbar or one of the grab handles, and the option should be above Configure Panel. |
| 02:37.51 | mpyne | I'm pretty sure that was in kde 3.4. |
| 02:38.13 | birchoff | no |
| 02:38.16 | birchoff | not here |
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| 02:39.10 | mpyne | hmm |
| 02:39.12 | ElijahLofgren | mpyne: I have configure panel open but I don't see any option about locking. |
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| 02:39.33 | ElijahLofgren | I running kde 3.4.1 |
| 02:39.55 | benJIman | locking is new since 3.4 I think |
| 02:40.07 | benJIman | you can lock desktop icons now as well :) |
| 02:40.13 | mpyne | Maybe I'm wrong, I run trunk so it's hard for me to keep track of when features landed. :( |
| 02:40.24 | birchoff | I am running 3.4.1 and I cant move applets or unlock anything to allow me to move applets |
| 02:40.53 | benJIman | birchoff: perhaps you've turned off the applet handles |
| 02:41.16 | birchoff | where is that option |
| 02:41.19 | benJIman | right click -> configure panel -> appearance -> advanced -> applet handles : visible |
| 02:41.40 | mpyne | Never mind, other devs have confirmed that Lock Panels will be new to 3.5. |
| 02:41.45 | mpyne | Sorry about that. |
| 02:42.00 | birchoff | found it |
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| 02:42.33 | ElijahLofgren | mpyne: Oh, ok. Thanks for the info. |
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| 02:46.13 | birchoff | thanks for the help |
| 02:46.21 | mpyne | birchoff: Sure. |
| 02:48.16 | birchoff | ok another question... how do I get the taskbar to stretch the entire panel |
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| 02:50.46 | mpyne | birchoff: Right-click on the kicker or an empty area of the taskbar and click Configure Panel. |
| 02:50.56 | mpyne | In the Arrangement section there is a Length group. |
| 02:51.10 | mpyne | Go ahead and bump that slider up to 100% and it will completely fill up the bottom. |
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| 03:08.19 | anolis | hi |
| 03:08.35 | ElijahLofgren | anolis: howdy |
| 03:09.01 | anolis | i was wondering how i would go about embeding a java applet onto my desktop |
| 03:09.11 | anolis | onto/into/s |
| 03:09.42 | ElijahLofgren | anolis: I really have no idea. Maybe other people on here do? |
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| 03:11.27 | anolis | has anyone succesfully made a linux machine look and act completely like windows? |
| 03:11.43 | anolis | well 99% like windows |
| 03:11.53 | HuntsMan | with blue screens and lockups? |
| 03:11.54 | HuntsMan | :) |
| 03:11.58 | anolis | well no |
| 03:12.16 | mpyne | Probably not. |
| 03:12.17 | anolis | k 25% like windows ;) |
| 03:12.26 | mpyne | Even if we got it to look like it, it still wouldn't act like it. |
| 03:12.32 | mpyne | e.g. differences in file system layout. |
| 03:12.48 | anolis | yea thats where wine comes in |
| 03:13.10 | ElijahLofgren | Are wanting to make KDE look like Windows? If you want to run windows on linux, you could use win4lin. That what I use for my windows-only scanner. |
| 03:13.15 | mpyne | Well wine gets you 10% of the way I suppose. =D |
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| 03:17.58 | henriquev | anolis: who told you 99% like windows? |
| 03:18.40 | henriquev | or the fact is that near 99% are used to use it and don't known others wm? |
| 03:19.18 | koala_man | fwvm95 is close enough to fool people on internet kiosks and such |
| 03:19.37 | henriquev | don't call them fool |
| 03:19.53 | henriquev | they're just inexperient |
| 03:19.59 | koala_man | I didn't |
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| 03:22.56 | Jet2k5 | Hello guys, is there a way to control sound with my multimedia keys on my keyboard? |
| 03:23.31 | Jet2k5 | The option doesn't show up in "keyboard shorcuts ", and I don't think KDE doesn't have something as simple as this |
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| 03:25.14 | ElijahLofgren | Jet2k5: Try using kHotKeys |
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| 03:25.59 | madpenguin8 | khotkeys++ |
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| 03:26.59 | Jet2k5 | hymm |
| 03:27.26 | Jet2k5 | this isn't exactly n00bie friendly :P, I mean gnome has one tha you just click on and done |
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| 03:28.58 | madpenguin8 | Jet2k5: well see, when you combine khotkeys and dcop you can control almost anything in kde |
| 03:30.10 | Jet2k5 | I know it looks good, but it's not taking my my volume up key |
| 03:31.02 | Jet2k5 | I'm trying to install this for a friend that I'm gettin into Linux |
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| 03:31.39 | Jet2k5 | and it's quite shocking that KDE doesn't have something as easy as gnome does just to control volume, easy as clicking volume up and hitting the volume up key .. I don't have a problem setting this up but I'm a little thrown back |
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| 03:32.27 | hydrogen | bye. |
| 03:36.40 | rutski89 | how do i change the usericons in konversation? |
| 03:36.51 | rutski89 | I want the kopete smilie theme |
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| 03:42.34 | birchoff | hey is there anyway to have the panel configure settings control only one panel |
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| 04:11.37 | aji-dahaka | I've a bit of a problem that I hope maybe you can help. I am switching to dvorak (trying) and my Hyper_R key seems not to work the same. |
| 04:11.43 | aji-dahaka | xev still says it's Hyper_R, but it doesn't act as the Win key (in KDE) anymore. |
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| 04:29.49 | _drac | where is the default "kde-config" directory?(compiling amarok beta) |
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| 04:44.35 | ravencrow | kde 3.4.2 runs way better on suse than 3.4.1...odd..unless it's my imagination |
| 04:44.35 | ravencrow | :P |
| 04:46.09 | _drac | naw |
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| 04:46.11 | _drac | Its KDE |
| 04:46.29 | _drac | Happens on slack to |
| 04:46.33 | _drac | Its wayyyyyyy smoother and prettier |
| 04:46.44 | _drac | Why does gstreamer hate me :( |
| 04:48.49 | ravencrow | heh |
| 04:50.25 | _drac | trying to get amarok to compile with support for it so I installed the slackpkg |
| 04:50.28 | _drac | but it isnt workin lol |
| 04:50.35 | ravencrow | hmm |
| 04:50.38 | ravencrow | you installed gstreamer? |
| 04:50.44 | ravencrow | and have the amarok-gstreamer plugin? |
| 04:50.56 | _drac | theres an amarok-gstreamer plugin!?!? |
| 04:51.02 | ravencrow | well, yes |
| 04:51.04 | ravencrow | lol. |
| 04:51.12 | ravencrow | if you don't have the option it isn't installed |
| 04:51.17 | _drac | It wont detect it on ./configure though |
| 04:51.44 | madpenguin8 | do you have the headers, aka devel packages? |
| 04:51.53 | _drac | Humm, Good question |
| 04:52.11 | _drac | I just installed the Gstreamer package from linuxpackages.net |
| 04:52.14 | _drac | so, I assume I dont |
| 04:52.31 | ravencrow | I'd compile gstreamer =\ |
| 04:52.34 | ravencrow | it's easier |
| 04:52.42 | ravencrow | I had to do that on suse |
| 04:52.50 | _drac | aye, was going to compile it |
| 04:52.59 | _drac | Its newer anyway |
| 04:53.02 | ravencrow | yeah |
| 04:54.13 | _drac | any plugins in particular I should get? |
| 04:54.24 | _drac | I havent looked at anything yet |
| 04:54.46 | madpenguin8 | depends what you plan on playing |
| 04:55.18 | ravencrow | I love suse..when it works right. |
| 04:55.21 | ravencrow | lol :( |
| 04:55.31 | _drac | Mp3, OGG |
| 04:56.17 | _drac | AIF |
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| 04:57.30 | ravencrow | I think there's a package called base plugins..that's probably all you need to install |
| 04:57.44 | _drac | Humm the make crapped out |
| 04:57.52 | ravencrow | o.o |
| 04:58.07 | _drac | Ive had this problem before |
| 04:58.09 | ravencrow | I hate when that happens. Damn dependencies |
| 04:58.15 | _drac | Doc's, and jade |
| 04:58.35 | _drac | jade:/usr/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl-stylesheets-1.64/html/dblink.dsl:203:1:E: XRef LinkEnd to missing ID 'troubleshooting-segfault' |
| 04:58.49 | _drac | And then error 8 |
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| 04:59.23 | _drac | ahh, I dotn have GNOME installed, so Im missing a few things =) |
| 05:00.07 | ravencrow | heh |
| 05:00.34 | ravencrow | I read that KDE may switch to gstreamer and ditch arts |
| 05:00.50 | MichiganFocker | Is it easy to install a new version of KDE? |
| 05:01.01 | ravencrow | depends on your distros |
| 05:01.03 | MichiganFocker | newbie, never did it |
| 05:01.04 | ravencrow | distro* |
| 05:01.08 | ravencrow | what do you use? |
| 05:01.08 | MichiganFocker | Suse 9.3 |
| 05:01.12 | ravencrow | ohh it's easy |
| 05:01.15 | ravencrow | I just did it |
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| 05:01.17 | ravencrow | hold on |
| 05:01.21 | MichiganFocker | kk, thanks |
| 05:03.00 | ravencrow | ftp://ftp.oregonstate.edu/pub/kde/stable/3.4.2/SuSE/ix86/9.3/ |
| 05:03.08 | ravencrow | I just download all of those rpm's into a folder |
| 05:03.13 | ravencrow | add it to yast as a source |
| 05:03.35 | MichiganFocker | okies, thanks dude :) |
| 05:03.42 | ravencrow | and use yast to update :) |
| 05:03.47 | ravencrow | takes awhile |
| 05:03.50 | ravencrow | but yeah |
| 05:03.59 | ravencrow | np |
| 05:04.32 | MichiganFocker | do you need to reboot after installing? |
| 05:04.41 | _drac | just restart KDE MichiganFocker |
| 05:04.45 | _drac | ctrl alt backspace and relogin |
| 05:04.53 | MichiganFocker | aight :) |
| 05:04.57 | _drac | I wonder how I can build Gstreamer with no docs |
| 05:05.19 | ravencrow | eh |
| 05:05.28 | ravencrow | I don't know :( |
| 05:05.39 | ravencrow | I used slack for awhile..but I don't think I bothered with gstreamer. |
| 05:05.40 | MichiganFocker | ravencrow, so every RPM on that ftp I gotta grab? |
| 05:05.43 | aji-dahaka | I've a bit of a problem that I hope maybe you can help. I am switching to dvorak (trying) and my Hyper_R key seems not to work the same. |
| 05:05.51 | aji-dahaka | xev still says it's Hyper_R, but it doesn't act as the Win key (in KDE) anymore. |
| 05:06.00 | ravencrow | yeah, I would just connect to it with an ftp client, and download them all into a folder |
| 05:06.07 | ravencrow | ftp clients easier..just select em' all at once |
| 05:06.23 | ravencrow | I didn't want to click each link either..haha |
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| 05:07.16 | MichiganFocker | damn now I see why ya said it would take awhile....lol |
| 05:07.26 | ravencrow | yeah. |
| 05:07.32 | ravencrow | it's like...500 mb or something |
| 05:07.37 | ravencrow | if you have dial up...eh.. |
| 05:07.37 | ravencrow | lol |
| 05:08.46 | ravencrow | It's worth it though...so far it seems way smoother/faster |
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| 05:08.55 | MichiganFocker | whats Dial-up...lol |
| 05:09.00 | ravencrow | lol |
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| 05:09.21 | MichiganFocker | you can get dsl cheaper now then you can get AOL crap |
| 05:09.32 | ravencrow | yeah no kidding |
| 05:09.35 | ravencrow | I love my DSL. |
| 05:09.57 | MichiganFocker | I loves me cable.... 6 mbps down and 768 kb's up |
| 05:10.07 | ravencrow | :( |
| 05:10.11 | ravencrow | that puts mine to shame |
| 05:10.12 | ravencrow | :P |
| 05:10.16 | MichiganFocker | hehe |
| 05:10.48 | ravencrow | I have 1.5mb down and 868kb up..or something like that...before I moved I had 3mb down |
| 05:10.54 | ravencrow | They didn't have it here =\ |
| 05:11.04 | ravencrow | Damn verizon. |
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| 05:16.17 | _drac | I have 1.5mb down and up |
| 05:16.19 | _drac | =) |
| 05:16.41 | ravencrow | nice |
| 05:16.48 | MichiganFocker | Id glady go down from 6 to 1.5 if I could get my up the same |
| 05:16.54 | _drac | yea |
| 05:17.12 | MichiganFocker | ISP's are stingy on upload speeds |
| 05:17.50 | ravencrow | Cable seems to have pretty slow upload speed. Well..not slow..but most DSL Isps I've had have fairly high upload speeds. |
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| 05:18.40 | MichiganFocker | every dsl I have checked on there speeds were no where near cables |
| 05:18.49 | ravencrow | hmm |
| 05:18.53 | ravencrow | mine is 800 something |
| 05:18.58 | ravencrow | heh |
| 05:19.11 | MichiganFocker | I had Verizon like 2-3 yrs ago, live in pennslyvania at the time |
| 05:19.34 | MichiganFocker | I know where I live now Dsl is slow compared to cable |
| 05:19.40 | madpenguin8 | hola MichiganFocker |
| 05:19.49 | MichiganFocker | ello madpenguin8 |
| 05:19.59 | madpenguin8 | MI in the house ;p |
| 05:20.16 | MichiganFocker | w00t |
| 05:20.21 | MichiganFocker | where u from? |
| 05:20.29 | MichiganFocker | just outside of Detroit here |
| 05:20.41 | madpenguin8 | haha, same ehre |
| 05:20.49 | madpenguin8 | lincoln park |
| 05:20.53 | MichiganFocker | heh small world eh |
| 05:20.58 | madpenguin8 | indeed |
| 05:21.02 | MichiganFocker | clinton township |
| 05:21.08 | MichiganFocker | not to far from ya |
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| 05:21.32 | madpenguin8 | :) |
| 05:23.45 | crispynix-v6 | Lansing :o |
| 05:23.51 | madpenguin8 | w00t |
| 05:24.18 | MichiganFocker | w00t :) |
| 05:24.24 | MichiganFocker | MI takin over |
| 05:24.27 | crispynix-v6 | heh |
| 05:24.27 | MichiganFocker | hehe |
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| 05:31.40 | Ninesvnsicks | Hi I'm trying to adjust all my font's but in the gtk apps they wont change is there a way to change them also? |
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| 05:32.49 | grepper | Ninesvnsicks: you could try using gtk-theme-switch, or the module in kcontrol |
| 05:32.57 | grepper | not sure what version of kde that started with |
| 05:33.18 | grepper | or ~/.gtkrc-2.0 |
| 05:33.41 | Ninesvnsicks | I edited .gtkrc-2.0 but nothing changed |
| 05:33.57 | Ninesvnsicks | I tried kcontrol but it didn't change them |
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| 05:34.19 | grepper | try gtk-theme-switch then |
| 05:34.46 | Ninesvnsicks | so do I have to download that because I don't believe I have it |
| 05:35.17 | grepper | yep |
| 05:36.21 | aji-dahaka | I've a bit of a problem that I hope maybe you can help. I am switching to dvorak (trying) and my Hyper_R key seems not to work the same. |
| 05:36.24 | aji-dahaka | xev still says it's Hyper_R, but it doesn't act as the Win key (in KDE) anymore. |
| 05:38.20 | cardenal | what i should install if always get an error "kde headers are not installed" to compile?? |
| 05:38.40 | aji-dahaka | cardenal: kde-dev of some sort |
| 05:38.41 | grepper | cardenal: what distro ? |
| 05:38.48 | Ninesvnsicks | grepper: after I installed gtk-theme-switch how do I execute it? |
| 05:39.14 | cardenal | mandriva 2005le |
| 05:39.51 | grepper | Ninesvnsicks: "switch" or "switch2" |
| 05:40.04 | grepper | probably kdebase-devel or somesuch |
| 05:40.14 | cardenal | ok |
| 05:41.16 | cardenal | by the way, how can i do to apply the transparence effect to the kickerr |
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| 05:42.15 | aji-dahaka | cardenal: configure panel -> appearance |
| 05:42.36 | cardenal | a try with superkaramba an a few themes but i don't get it |
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| 05:44.22 | jz | hi people i have a quest |
| 05:45.19 | jz | some programs said i386, i586 and i686 |
| 05:45.54 | jz | the i686 work on i586? |
| 05:47.10 | jz | somebody to help me? |
| 05:47.18 | aji-dahaka | not necessarily |
| 05:47.59 | jz | why for architecture? |
| 05:48.52 | aji-dahaka | i686 has instructions that i586 processors don't have |
| 05:50.22 | jz | ooohhh |
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| 05:51.36 | jz | ok i understend but if the processor is i686 still work good ok? |
| 05:51.36 | Zxcvb | is there any way to use greasemonkey scripts in konqueror? |
| 05:51.40 | _drac | I have came to the conclusion that Gstreamer hates me and is forcing em to use Xine |
| 05:52.05 | Zxcvb | bah, is there anything that gstreamer can do that xine or mplayer can't |
| 05:52.24 | aji-dahaka | jz: yeah |
| 05:52.28 | madpenguin8 | yeah, not crash at times on amd64 |
| 05:52.58 | _drac | Zxcvb: Yea, it refuses to work. |
| 05:53.23 | jz | aji-dahaka: ok i installed the program is still work thanks |
| 05:53.48 | Zxcvb | _drac: get xine and mplayer set up and use kmplayer |
| 05:54.02 | frank | thats kplayer |
| 05:54.14 | Zxcvb | frank: no, kmplayer |
| 05:54.28 | Zxcvb | frank: http://www.xs4all.nl/~jjvrieze/kmplayer.html |
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| 05:55.00 | Zxcvb | frank: frontend and konqueror plugin for both xine and mplayer in one |
| 05:55.12 | frank | Zxcvb: there is also a kplayer |
| 05:55.20 | frank | ok |
| 05:55.28 | Zxcvb | frank: I know, but it didn't work as well for me |
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| 05:55.35 | _drac | Zxcvb: I have xine setup, and am going to use Amarok :) |
| 05:55.57 | Zxcvb | frank: the latest kmplayer even supports audo/video links in RSS files |
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| 05:56.34 | propagandhi | hey does anyone know how to change the colour of the taskbar in kde |
| 05:58.07 | propagandhi | hello?? |
| 05:58.22 | jz | zxcvb: the kmplayer ist best to ogle i used that |
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| 05:59.25 | jz | it's! |
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| 06:10.59 | BeeBux | hello |
| 06:11.28 | BeeBux | is it possible to install KDE 3.4 manually on a Debian Sid, because now there are broken packages and I am just reinstalling my system, anyone can help ? |
| 06:12.14 | grepper | BeeBux: what is broken ? |
| 06:12.35 | BeeBux | when I do an apt-get install kde, it says that kde-core and all dependencies are unmet |
| 06:12.49 | BeeBux | so I guess there is an update going on or something |
| 06:12.54 | BeeBux | it is sid :P |
| 06:13.07 | grepper | probably libaspell15 |
| 06:13.58 | BeeBux | hmmm... if I install it manually I won't have the support of the Debian guys |
| 06:14.01 | grepper | get libaspell15 from snapshot.debian.net and see if it helps |
| 06:14.05 | BeeBux | but again they are still in 3.3 |
| 06:14.16 | BeeBux | ok I will try that, thanks grepper |
| 06:14.50 | grepper | replace libaspell15c2 with it |
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| 06:15.21 | grepper | the gcc/g++ transition might bite you, but there are ways around it probably |
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| 06:22.02 | _drac | There is no KDE Meta on the SVN right? |
| 06:22.12 | _drac | for branch 3.5 |
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| 06:30.18 | light_punch2 | for awhile i didn't know why kde has a jumping icon when click on an app to launch |
| 06:31.28 | light_punch2 | but since i was using windows at work, i click and click and click, nothing is happening. can't tell if app is being opened or not |
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| 06:34.41 | MichiganFocker | w00t KDE all updated |
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| 07:04.09 | johnny69 | I feel all null & void. |
| 07:11.00 | grepper | strange, I'm not getting image previews |
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| 07:14.04 | jeh_work | mmm, 3.4.2 |
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| 07:14.23 | jeh_work | another thing you lucky non-debianites can enjoy :) |
| 07:15.31 | grepper | I have 3.4.89 |
| 07:16.40 | jeh_work | from experimental? |
| 07:16.50 | grepper | nope, svn |
| 07:16.55 | jeh_work | ah |
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| 07:17.13 | jeh_work | i'm too lazy to compile nowadays, but it wouldn't really be such a big deal to do it |
| 07:17.33 | fluffles | hey guys, an idea when kde 3.4.2 will be available for FreeBSD? |
| 07:17.41 | fluffles | *any |
| 07:17.54 | jeh_work | it's not that the packages actually add any functionality |
| 07:18.24 | jeh_work | but it's nicer to have a complete system based on packages. easier dependency handling etc |
| 07:19.11 | grepper | yep |
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| 07:19.50 | grepper | but anything kde'ish I'll need is going to have to be compiled anyway |
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| 07:22.08 | jeh_work | yeah, most fun extra apps that aren't part of the official packages still has to be compiled |
| 07:22.13 | jeh_work | like ktorrent :) |
| 07:22.31 | grepper | ah, needed to enable preview for protocol "file" |
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| 07:24.52 | fluffles | hey guys, an idea when kde 3.4.2 will be available for FreeBSD? |
| 07:27.12 | lippel | fluffles: #kde-freebsd |
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| 07:52.06 | TwistedEmotions | Anyone know how I can get around the k3b error with the kdelibs if I am running unstable debian? |
| 07:52.13 | TwistedEmotions | kdelibs4: Depends: libaspell15 (>= 0.60) but it is not installable |
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| 07:59.44 | jeh_work | TwistedEmotions: isn't unstable right now in a pretty unstable state? what with this gcc4 transition and x.org |
| 08:02.34 | canllaith | kdelibs4 ? I hope that's some twisted debian talk for kde 3.X |
| 08:02.36 | TwistedEmotions | jeh_work: damn unstable... ;P Trying to get everything up and running correctly... I dont know... heard x.org is going to be great.. but currently I see no difference. |
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| 08:04.37 | TwistedEmotions | haha.. I think it's working now... brb. |
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| 08:06.01 | TwistedEmotions | bah... nothing works... |
| 08:06.14 | TwistedEmotions | I wish I had been raised on linux instead of windows ;P |
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| 09:00.53 | jeh_work | canllaith: yeah, i think it's epoch 4 of the libs. it does mean kdelibs 3.x |
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| 09:09.28 | miklos | hi |
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| 09:22.04 | miklos | active chat.......:-) |
| 09:22.06 | miklos | :) |
| 09:22.52 | canllaith | :P |
| 09:27.14 | jeh_work | everyone is busy playing with 3.4.2 |
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| 09:34.43 | htedrom | hey all |
| 09:35.20 | htedrom | could anyone help me out? my soundblaster live value card isn't working on KDE, but it works fine in gnome |
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| 09:36.25 | dm | htedrom: what distro are you running |
| 09:36.42 | htedrom | debian |
| 09:36.53 | htedrom | but i think i had the same problem on slack, way back in the day |
| 09:37.07 | dm | does sound work outside kde or is it just kde |
| 09:37.25 | htedrom | it worked in gnome |
| 09:38.19 | htedrom | i think it's just kde |
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| 09:39.20 | htedrom | dm: any ideas? |
| 09:39.30 | dm | htedrom: ok, um first check to see if artsd is running by going to the control center and looking under sound and multimedia and clicking on the sound system tab |
| 09:39.35 | Dalkus | can anyone give me the url to the kde lite (I think thats the name) webpage? It's a new project that aims for a kde desktop without the bloat. I can't find it through google |
| 09:40.16 | htedrom | dm: when i boot, artsd says there was a problem with /dev/dsp or something, and says it'll direct all sound to /dev/null |
| 09:41.15 | Dalkus | ah. simplekde. |
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| 09:41.52 | dm | htedrom: are you using alsa |
| 09:42.09 | htedrom | dm: what's that? |
| 09:43.54 | dm | htedrom: alsa is the term used to describe the recent (As of this year) sound drivers inside the kernel, if you are unsure if this is setup I can guide you through the process |
| 09:44.05 | htedrom | Sound server informational message: |
| 09:44.05 | htedrom | Error while initializing the sound driver: |
| 09:44.05 | htedrom | device /dev/dsp can't be opened (No such device) |
| 09:44.05 | htedrom | The sound server will continue, using the null output device. |
| 09:44.23 | htedrom | that's the error message |
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| 09:44.26 | dm | htedrom: open a terminal and i show you how to setup the alsa |
| 09:44.38 | htedrom | dm: ok, term open |
| 09:44.39 | dm | htedrom: tell me when you are ready |
| 09:44.59 | dm | htedrom: type killall -9 artsd |
| 09:45.20 | dm | htedrom: then as root type "alsaconf" |
| 09:45.21 | htedrom | dm: done |
| 09:45.36 | htedrom | dm: done |
| 09:45.54 | dm | htedrom: it should ask about closing all sound applications click ok |
| 09:45.59 | htedrom | yep |
| 09:46.28 | htedrom | dm: it's asking if i want to probe legacy ISA sound cards, because it hasn't found any PNP or PCI cards |
| 09:47.00 | htedrom | dm: it's a soundblaster live! value...5.1 i think |
| 09:47.20 | dm | htedrom: so pci, strage it should detect that |
| 09:47.23 | dm | exit |
| 09:47.26 | htedrom | ok |
| 09:47.27 | dm | and type "lspci" |
| 09:47.57 | htedrom | 0000:00:0c.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev 08) |
| 09:47.57 | htedrom | 0000:00:0c.1 Input device controller: Creative Labs SB Live! MIDI/Game Port (rev 08) |
| 09:48.18 | dm | it should detect, are you running a debian or custom compiled kernel |
| 09:48.25 | htedrom | debian |
| 09:48.35 | htedrom | i havn't touched the kernel |
| 09:48.38 | dm | k |
| 09:49.15 | dm | htedrom: hold on i have to think for a sec |
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| 09:49.34 | htedrom | ok |
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| 09:52.55 | dm | htredrom: what version of debian and what kernel version are you running |
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| 09:53.44 | htedrom | dm: i just installed it from net today...3.1 i think |
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| 09:53.49 | htedrom | dm: but i'll double check |
| 09:54.09 | htedrom | dm: as for kernel version i'm not sure...what's the command to check, again? |
| 09:54.19 | dm | htedrom: uname -r |
| 09:54.55 | htedrom | 2.4.27 |
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| 09:57.14 | dm | htedrom: check to see if alsa modules for your arch are installed (i.e. alsa-modules-2.4.27-2-386) |
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| 09:57.36 | Furic | Tell me, what is the mime type used for a folder in konqueror? |
| 09:58.17 | htedrom | dm: how? |
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| 09:58.58 | dm | htedrom: tell me what arch are you running and i will give you the command to install it if is not there |
| 09:59.18 | htedrom | i386 |
| 09:59.55 | Furic | Urgh, nevermind, i figured it out, i think. |
| 10:00.17 | dm | oh just plain i386 kernel then run this as root and tell me if it installs anything "apt-get install alsa-modules-2.4.27-2-386" |
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| 10:00.55 | htedrom | dm: it's downloading it |
| 10:01.24 | htedrom | dm: i did a net install...i guess it wasn't part of the package groups i downloaded |
| 10:02.07 | dm | htedrom: once installed run "alsaconf" again, you should not have to reboot because it is just modules |
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| 10:03.54 | htedrom | dm: finished alsaconf...my card showed up...i'm just restarting the sound server now |
| 10:06.19 | dm | htedrom: when you get some time you might want to consider upgrading to a 2.6 arch specific kernel they are faster, with more hardware suppor, more recent drivers and alsa build in |
| 10:06.35 | Frost | is anybody here using konversation by any chance? |
| 10:06.41 | canllaith | Sometimes. What's up Frost ? |
| 10:06.58 | dm | htedrom: alsa is though developed outside the kernel so your soundcard drivers are still recent (most likely) |
| 10:07.09 | Frost | I was wondering if there's a way to sort the channel tabs according to their network |
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| 10:07.13 | dm | Frost: i am |
| 10:07.16 | Frost | similar to the x-chat way |
| 10:07.24 | Frost | is it possible? |
| 10:08.05 | dm | Frost: sorry i have no idea, but you can move the tabs by dragging the middle mouse button |
| 10:08.19 | dm | htedrom: sound yet? |
| 10:08.20 | Frost | would have been nice if kopete could read colored messages :) |
| 10:08.20 | htedrom | dm: sound works great! thanks a lot |
| 10:08.29 | dm | htedrom: no problem, enjoy |
| 10:08.32 | htedrom | really, thanks a lot man |
| 10:08.36 | Frost | ah allright dm. I guess I'll just have to get used to it |
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| 10:08.55 | htedrom | have a good one, i'm crashing |
| 10:09.07 | htedrom | thanks again dm |
| 10:10.49 | Sho_ | Frost: Your desired feature will be in the next release :) |
| 10:11.05 | Frost | ah, nice :) |
| 10:11.23 | Sho_ | Frost: It will also show $network instead of $server in the status tab, /server will be network-aware, as will be the bookmarks, and so on - lots of fixes to the network semantic |
| 10:11.25 | Frost | oh and is konversation scriptable, by the way? |
| 10:11.52 | Frost | Sho_: I take it you are one of the developers? |
| 10:12.13 | Sho_ | Frost: Not really - we currently only have scripts that work as command aliases, you can execute something on the shell and get the output, see /kdeversion or /media for example |
| 10:12.54 | Frost | Qt: 3.3.4 |
| 10:12.54 | Frost | KDE: 3.4.2 |
| 10:12.55 | Frost | kde-config: 1.0 |
| 10:12.58 | Frost | oh |
| 10:12.59 | Frost | :) |
| 10:13.32 | canllaith | hrm. I could have one of those annoying now playing scripts in irssi with exec -o dcop something :o |
| 10:13.49 | Sho_ | Frost: I'm a recent addition to the dev team and made several of those network semantic fixes, yeah |
| 10:14.02 | Frost | a now playing script is something I had in mind ;) |
| 10:14.12 | Frost | Sho_: in that case, welcome |
| 10:14.23 | Frost | or, congratulations |
| 10:14.27 | Frost | fits a bit better ;) |
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| 10:15.00 | Sho_ | canllaith: We already have a wonderfully annoying now playing scripts - /media - which is compatible with amaroK and JuK :) |
| 10:15.26 | mobtek | and how :P |
| 10:16.48 | Frost | mobtek: can you do that again please? |
| 10:16.54 | Frost | I'm testing something |
| 10:17.00 | mobtek | > A program called 'dcopserver' is slowing down the others on your machine. It may have a bug that is causing this, or it may just be busy. |
| 10:17.00 | mobtek | > Would you like to try to stop the program? |
| 10:17.01 | Frost | ok thanks |
| 10:17.04 | mobtek | what the hell |
| 10:17.08 | mobtek | ? |
| 10:18.42 | mobtek | weirdness from runaway process catcher when kdevelop is compiling methinks hehe |
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| 10:21.45 | Frost | Sho_: does konversation have a bugzilla of some sort? |
| 10:22.06 | Sho_ | Frost: We're in bugs.kde.org |
| 10:22.17 | Frost | oh, alright. thank you |
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| 10:37.54 | lilalinux | how do i tell the searchbar in konqueror to use google.de instead of google.com? |
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| 10:39.06 | brosio | where can i download kbluetooth ? |
| 10:43.29 | ralf | brosio: kdebluetooth |
| 10:44.40 | brosio | thx |
| 10:44.42 | miklos | Where can i download some cdplayer programs for KDE??? |
| 10:44.42 | ralf | search it on apt-get.org |
| 10:44.48 | miklos | please some links |
| 10:44.49 | miklos | :-) |
| 10:45.05 | ralf | miklos: amarok can't play cds? |
| 10:45.35 | lilalinux | miklos: kscd, kcd, kaffeine |
| 10:45.49 | miklos | can but, 1 song, again play 1song....., amarok cant play list |
| 10:45.51 | miklos | song lists |
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| 10:48.03 | miklos | i wouldn'tlike play cd-s, browse on my computer, song list |
| 10:48.20 | miklos | and that programs can't play song list's, just 1song |
| 10:48.27 | miklos | play again 1song....... |
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| 11:01.34 | xbeanx | does anyone know why it takes me 5 minutes to print a page from any kde app? |
| 11:01.53 | xbeanx | If I print to a ps file I can lpr it and it pops out right away |
| 11:02.23 | xbeanx | And if I print through a gnome app it also prints right away. It's only KDE apps that take 5 minutes for anything to start printing. |
| 11:02.44 | xbeanx | I've had this problem for about 3 months and haven't been able to find anyone with a solution |
| 11:09.23 | mdouhan | hi |
| 11:11.00 | xbeanx | Okay, I think I figured out what the problem is.. I straced kprinter and it seems like it's trying to connect to 192.168.1.1, then times out and connects to the printer. |
| 11:11.04 | xbeanx | Weird. |
| 11:15.40 | xbeanx | I grepped my entire home directory and /etc/ for 192.168.1.1. but couldn't find it.. |
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| 11:26.55 | bluelightning | xbeanx: indeed strange... how is your printing set up? using cups, samba, etc...? |
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| 11:38.12 | torz | hey, could you guys tell me how to change the background of konqueror? |
| 11:38.29 | torz | the dafault is fairly ugly (gray), I want the blue/white two-tone background/ |
| 11:39.05 | lauri | in file manager mode? |
| 11:39.13 | torz | seems I cant find the options for it in konqueror conf and kcontrol. |
| 11:39.19 | torz | lauri: yep, file manager mode. |
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| 11:39.31 | lauri | View -> Configure Background |
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| 11:39.48 | lauri | (don't ask me why it's *there*, there is not a single reason in the world, but there it is) |
| 11:39.50 | torz | oh "View |
| 11:39.52 | torz | heh |
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| 11:40.03 | torz | that was most unexpected :p |
| 11:40.41 | torz | perfect, problem solved :~) |
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| 11:42.28 | mobtek | it's there because it changes your view :) |
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| 11:46.29 | pinotree | hello! :D |
| 11:46.34 | torz | hey |
| 11:47.09 | miklos | HI |
| 11:47.23 | miklos | torz! Where are you from? Sweden? |
| 11:47.26 | miklos | (Hey) |
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| 11:47.32 | torz | nope |
| 11:47.34 | torz | why is that? |
| 11:47.35 | c-101 | Hi |
| 11:47.38 | torz | is torz a swedish name? |
| 11:47.44 | torz | I love swedish girls though! |
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| 11:55.08 | miklos | No, yes swedish girl's are very nice, but, Hey is a swedish: Hello |
| 11:55.09 | miklos | :-D |
| 11:55.25 | miklos | sweden: Hey= english hello. |
| 11:55.26 | miklos | :-D |
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| 11:56.03 | honschu | How to log KMail smtp sessions? |
| 11:56.03 | miklos | Have you got msn messenger? (torz) |
| 11:56.11 | mdouhan | most swedes are boring and self minded I find |
| 11:56.26 | torz | miklos: yeah |
| 11:56.28 | mdouhan | byt thats my highly personal opinion |
| 11:56.33 | mdouhan | and not ment to offent present company |
| 11:56.33 | miklos | My favorit country is Sweden! Very nice! |
| 11:56.49 | miklos | the best country of all country:-) |
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| 11:56.55 | torz | yeah its like how a lot of Germans I know are very patriotic. |
| 11:57.20 | torz | nationalism in that country must be pretty high. |
| 11:57.27 | honschu | lol |
| 11:57.48 | torz | was back in the day and it still is eh? |
| 11:58.13 | honschu | torz: is the opposite |
| 11:58.28 | honschu | Where is the kde develop irc channel? |
| 11:59.17 | torz | nah I'm certain nationalism in Europe caused a lot of problems in 20th century :p |
| 11:59.17 | pinotree | honschu: #kdevelop |
| 11:59.37 | honschu | pinotree: not that kdevelop program, a channel for kde developers |
| 11:59.49 | pinotree | honschu: that |
| 11:59.57 | honschu | yes, okay - thx |
| 12:01.24 | honschu | No answer for: How to log KMail smtp sessions? |
| 12:02.13 | torz | oh, thanks for reminding me. I have to setup kmail. |
| 12:02.43 | torz | such a great program, rate it higher than thunderbird. |
| 12:02.52 | miklos | kamil is cool, i use that:-) |
| 12:02.58 | McScruff | i made an app in c and want to add a gui, do you know how i would do this? |
| 12:03.30 | torz | yeah I've always used kmail :~), I just did a new install about an hour ago so theres a lot of things I have to do :~( |
| 12:03.50 | torz | McScruff: make one... |
| 12:03.51 | torz | heh |
| 12:04.09 | torz | first question you want to ask is what do you want to use? |
| 12:04.16 | McScruff | yep |
| 12:04.27 | McScruff | i have no idea how to make a gui |
| 12:04.34 | McScruff | very new to c |
| 12:04.48 | torz | I hear the Qt toolkit is pretty good. |
| 12:05.09 | torz | Unfortunately I've only done Java GUI via Eclipse only so I cant be much of a help... |
| 12:05.15 | torz | Swing is shit, SWT rocks. |
| 12:05.32 | mobtek | hahah and how |
| 12:05.44 | McScruff | is there anyway to make a gui in kdevelop designer and use that? |
| 12:05.44 | mobtek | I did my final project in swing |
| 12:05.52 | mobtek | even using Idea it was so very painful hehe |
| 12:06.08 | torz | SWT makes your program platform dependent but in return gives you near-native speed GUI. |
| 12:06.27 | torz | i.e. Azureus and Eclipse. |
| 12:06.40 | torz | although eclipse is fairly resource intensive but thats a different story |
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| 12:07.17 | coh | hey... how do i add a module to the kde control center.. specificaly my wacom tablet |
| 12:07.54 | coh | i've installed xinput .. i tried xinput test wacom .. didnt recognize it |
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| 12:09.35 | mobtek | torz: you want native then use Qt :) |
| 12:09.51 | torz | yep :~) |
| 12:09.56 | torz | but SWT rocks, trust me. |
| 12:10.51 | torz | heh I did almost no coding for Swing when I used it. |
| 12:11.06 | torz | made Eclipse do most of the work, |
| 12:11.26 | mobtek | hehe nice |
| 12:11.46 | torz | jigloo is the plugin we used iirc. |
| 12:12.38 | mobtek | heh I'll be doing more than enough java this semester |
| 12:12.53 | mobtek | advanced java looks like it will be rather time intensive |
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| 12:13.11 | coh | does anyone here know how to install new modules into the controll center? |
| 12:13.48 | torz | yeah Java is cool but fairly average compared to C++. i.e. Java doesnt have multiple inheritence. |
| 12:14.19 | torz | also doesnt support operator override (although this is somewhat kind of good) |
| 12:14.26 | mobtek | torz: yeah the more C++ I do the more I like it |
| 12:14.41 | coh | what channel is kde help? |
| 12:15.06 | torz | coh: here :~) |
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| 12:15.20 | coh | torz, i need to know how to install the wacom into the controll center |
| 12:15.36 | coh | i loaded all the drivers, but there is no pressure sensativity |
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| 12:16.07 | torz | hmm I can't help you but if you wait around I'm sure someone will. |
| 12:16.17 | coh | ok.. |
| 12:16.34 | torz | dont even know wacom to be honest heh |
| 12:16.34 | coh | have you ever used xinput ? |
| 12:16.47 | coh | yeah, it's just 'how to get stuff into the kde controll center' |
| 12:17.08 | torz | kcontrol eh |
| 12:17.39 | coh | yeah |
| 12:17.51 | torz | hmm if you cant get any help here you could possibly go to a KDE based distro channels. |
| 12:18.01 | torz | this channel seems to be not that active right now. |
| 12:18.14 | coh | hmm.. whats another channel to ask for help in? |
| 12:18.32 | coh | theres noone in #kcontrol :/ |
| 12:18.48 | coh | canllaith: yeah there is |
| 12:18.55 | coh | canllaith: my gf put it in there once .. |
| 12:18.59 | coh | i can't figure out how she did it though |
| 12:19.17 | coh | she won't tell me either |
| 12:19.49 | torz | coh: hmm you could perhaps ask in #suse or #kubuntu. |
| 12:20.14 | coh | http://webcvs.kde.org/kdenonbeta/xinput/ |
| 12:20.14 | torz | those are the only two KDE distros that I can think of straight off my head. |
| 12:20.16 | coh | here look a tthis page |
| 12:20.26 | canllaith | ah, kdenonbeta? :) |
| 12:20.42 | coh | canllaith... wll it points to xinput |
| 12:21.02 | canllaith | There appears to be nothing in the main KDE distribution |
| 12:21.10 | canllaith | So if you want it, I assume you'll need to compile the kdenonbeta module. |
| 12:21.16 | coh | ok.. |
| 12:21.35 | bluelightning | canllaith: do let everyone know as soon as there's a KDE-NZ site up, I'll be keen to check it out. |
| 12:21.36 | coh | whats that xinput ? |
| 12:21.53 | coh | that they are referring to? |
| 12:21.59 | canllaith | bluelightning: I sure will :). I'll get there, got a deadline for next week to get out of the way first |
| 12:22.00 | coh | cuz i installed that.. |
| 12:22.03 | canllaith | bluelightning: are you a kiwi? |
| 12:22.26 | bluelightning | canllaith: yeah, I live in Auckland |
| 12:23.18 | canllaith | Cool :) |
| 12:23.21 | Supermule | Is it possible to have a tabbed view of all open files in kate? |
| 12:23.26 | canllaith | Supermule: yep |
| 12:23.33 | Supermule | How? |
| 12:23.49 | mobtek | canllaith: that is so disturbing on so many levels :P |
| 12:23.50 | canllaith | Settings -> Configure Kate -> Editor |
| 12:23.57 | bluelightning | canllaith: yeah, I've been following your blog :) (along with those of all the other KDE devs) |
| 12:24.01 | canllaith | Sorry wrong section Supermule |
| 12:24.10 | canllaith | Settings -> Configure Kate -> Application -> Plugins |
| 12:24.13 | canllaith | Kate Tab Bar Extension |
| 12:24.20 | canllaith | bluelightning: cool :) |
| 12:24.22 | canllaith | mobtek: hush you |
| 12:24.39 | coh | what is xinput ? |
| 12:24.47 | Supermule | Ahh... I don't have any plugins in my kate installation... |
| 12:24.54 | canllaith | kdeaddons is where they all are |
| 12:25.19 | Supermule | Ahh... ok. Thanks. |
| 12:26.05 | Supermule | One more question... Is there a keyboard shortcut for shifting between editor and built in konsole in kate? |
| 12:26.06 | mobtek | hehehe |
| 12:28.49 | coh | canllaith: i'm trying to find an ebuild for kdenonbeta .. |
| 12:29.12 | coh | heheh |
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| 12:29.50 | coh | conllaith, i need to get this module working.... you said i need kdenonbeta :) |
| 12:30.18 | Supermule | Nobody knows how to change focus between editor view and konsole view in kate using keyboard shortcuts? |
| 12:30.35 | canllaith | Yes kinda |
| 12:30.43 | canllaith | have a look in the keyboard shortcuts dialog for kate |
| 12:30.52 | canllaith | there is a shortcut for opening the konsole |
| 12:31.08 | canllaith | Bind a key to that, and then you can use it to open the konsole, and hitting the keypress again will close it and return focus to your editor window |
| 12:31.11 | canllaith | most of the time |
| 12:31.15 | Supermule | Ok, thanks. I already looked. Must have missed it. |
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| 12:34.55 | coh | canllaith, can you help me get kdenonbeta from the cvs ? |
| 12:36.00 | canllaith | There are instructions on getting kde modules from svn on developer.kde.org |
| 12:36.39 | pinotree | coh: ... and cvs is dead |
| 12:37.00 | coh | i just want to get this module to install wacom |
| 12:39.41 | coh | i can't seem to find the instrunctions on downloading this particular module, kdenonbeta |
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| 12:44.24 | coh | it's funny cuz when you load up kde, there is a picture of a drawing tablet "loading peripherals" |
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| 13:03.54 | davidhouse | hey: a question on kdevelop. I've specified a list of plugins and made them the default, however, KDevelop still loads them at startup (I unchecked the 'load last project at startup option'). |
| 13:04.00 | davidhouse | is there a way to stop this happening? |
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| 13:09.01 | honschu | How to log KMail smtp sessions? |
| 13:09.17 | pinotree | davidhouse: try asking in #kdevelop |
| 13:09.27 | pinotree | honschu: try asking in #kmail or #kontact |
| 13:09.27 | davidhouse | pinotree: thanks |
| 13:09.40 | crs | Hello i have problem with konqueror and profiles. I cant turn on one of toolboxs in one profile without turning on in second profile. Why? What i can do? I have 3.4.1 version. |
| 13:09.44 | crs | Please help me. ;/ |
| 13:09.56 | crs | i say about favorite toolbox |
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| 13:10.22 | crs | i want that in webbrowser profile, but dont want in filemanager |
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| 13:20.18 | murrix | hi |
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| 13:24.22 | crs | No one can help me? :( |
| 13:24.47 | Julianyus | hi |
| 13:24.52 | grepper | what was the question ? |
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| 13:25.27 | crs | grepper: i cant turn one of the toolbox on one konqueror profile without turning on thah toolbox on second profile |
| 13:26.00 | crs | grepper: but i favorite tool box want to have only in webbrowser profile, but not in filemanager ;/ |
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| 13:27.28 | grepper | not sure |
| 13:27.43 | grepper | the profile is kept in KDEHOME/share/apps/konqueror/profiles |
| 13:28.19 | grepper | you could have a look at it and see if its something you can edit to change |
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| 13:28.51 | crs | grepper: yes, i know. edit that file how i can, but cant get that what i want ;/ |
| 13:29.09 | sredna | Hello |
| 13:29.10 | crs | this toolbox is on or off to all profiles at the time ;/ |
| 13:29.18 | crs | sredna: hello, maybe you can help me? :) |
| 13:29.34 | grepper | crs: which one ? |
| 13:29.36 | sredna | crs: Repeate the questino, I just gothere |
| 13:29.44 | sredna | Hi grepper :) |
| 13:29.50 | grepper | hi sredna |
| 13:29.55 | sredna | 192 new mails :o |
| 13:29.58 | grepper | how's the tennis ? |
| 13:30.01 | crs | grepper: can you tell my question to sredna cos you how my english is :) |
| 13:30.02 | sredna | 3� day |
| 13:30.09 | crs | grepper: both |
| 13:30.27 | grepper | crs: no, which toolbar, not which profile |
| 13:30.47 | crs | grepper: favorite toolbar |
| 13:31.06 | crs | it can show some of favorites from konqueror in toolbar |
| 13:31.27 | grepper | and if you remove it and save the profile it doesn't save ? |
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| 13:32.07 | crs | grepper: if i remove it from one profile and save, then automaticly it is eleted from second profile ;/ |
| 13:32.28 | crs | /seleted/deleted |
| 13:33.35 | crs | sredna: i cant have favorite toolbar in konqueror only in one profile. if i add that toolbar then is added to all profiles, when i delete that then is deleted from all profile. But i very want to have that in only one profile ;/ |
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| 13:34.10 | grepper | and editing ~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror/profiles/{webbrowsing,filemanagement} doesn't work |
| 13:34.22 | crs | yes |
| 13:34.25 | sredna | crs: I That should be possible, AFAIK |
| 13:34.35 | crs | i dont know how edit it properly |
| 13:34.57 | crs | sredna: it is possible cos i ask ppl aboyt that and some of them have something like that ;/ |
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| 13:36.06 | crs | When i move my .kde3.4/ dir to other name and restart kde then i can set that. but after some time, after some changes in kde configuration that going to make it how i have at now |
| 13:36.13 | sredna | crs: Well, you should get that by enabling the toolbar and saving the profile in question |
| 13:36.45 | grepper | could also be KDEHOME/.kde/share/apps/konqueror/konqueror.rc I suppose - you could try renaming that |
| 13:37.12 | crs | sredna: then it is enabled in all profiles |
| 13:38.03 | crs | it seems like bug i think ;/ |
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| 13:39.16 | crs | sredna: try do it in your box, ok? |
| 13:40.54 | sredna | crs: It does work here |
| 13:41.20 | crs | sredna: then look there and if you can check what i have do to make it work, ok? |
| 13:41.21 | crs | http://rafb.net/paste/results/HkaEmU17.html |
| 13:41.45 | sredna | Sorry I'm busy right now |
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| 13:41.50 | crs | :( |
| 13:42.30 | crs | grepper: can you look that? |
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| 13:48.43 | crs | sorry, that had name: bookmarks toolbar |
| 13:49.02 | grepper | crs: try adding Hidden=true |
| 13:49.54 | grepper | oh, its there already |
| 13:52.15 | grepper | I would rename that file and try again, it looks strange |
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| 13:53.15 | grepper | sorry, doing too many things at once here :P |
| 13:53.54 | hydrogen | is there a way to get superkaramba to always be on top? |
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| 13:56.25 | canllaith | use kwin's ability to set window specifc settings by window class |
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| 13:56.38 | canllaith | Kcontrol -> Desktop -> window manager -> Window specific settings I think |
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| 13:56.53 | canllaith | almost :) |
| 13:56.59 | canllaith | kcontrol -> desktop -> window specific settings |
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| 13:58.05 | coh | im trying to download kdenonbeta module |
| 13:58.11 | coh | i can't seem to find the proper resources on how to do this |
| 13:58.19 | thiago | coh: don't download kdenonbeta |
| 13:58.32 | coh | thiago, i need it to use the wacom module |
| 13:58.49 | thiago | coh: then download that part only |
| 13:58.57 | coh | thiago: how ? |
| 13:59.07 | canllaith | the documentation for checking things out of SVn is on developer.kde.org |
| 13:59.11 | canllaith | as I already said :) |
| 13:59.16 | thiago | svn co svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk/kdenonbeta/whatever |
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| 13:59.39 | coh | canllaith, i can't find it in there! |
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| 14:00.23 | canllaith | http://developer.kde.org/source/anonsvn.html |
| 14:00.41 | lauri | I'm wondering what he wants it for (did I see something about tablets?, that's a switch on qt to enable tablet support) |
| 14:01.22 | lauri | and probably a bit of X config |
| 14:01.36 | lauri | and then for the pressure sensitive part, your app needs to understand it (krita does) |
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| 14:02.29 | crs | i hate that :( |
| 14:04.13 | coh | canllaith: ok, im compiling subversion now :) |
| 14:04.25 | coh | i just dont know all the keywords.. |
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| 14:28.50 | coh | canllaith: .. might have done something wrong.. |
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| 14:28.52 | coh | svn co svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk/KDE/arts |
| 14:28.52 | coh | svn: Connection closed unexpectedly |
| 14:28.58 | coh | but that's what it tells me when i try to check out |
| 14:29.06 | coh | using the example from the page :x |
| 14:29.44 | c-101 | eeeh |
| 14:29.49 | c-101 | does the SVN version compile ? |
| 14:29.58 | c-101 | kdelibs i mean |
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| 14:30.33 | grepper | it used to :) |
| 14:30.41 | coh | i'll try that one also |
| 14:30.59 | coh | keep getting the same error with svn co .. |
| 14:31.00 | coh | svn: Connection closed unexpectedly |
| 14:31.34 | grepper | probably down atm for some reason |
| 14:31.55 | coh | oh..ok |
| 14:31.56 | lippel | coh: tried https://anonsvn...? |
| 14:32.14 | geek_ | ppl, is it true taht managed widget (related to addConfig()) in KCModule is not truly managed? |
| 14:32.53 | coh | lippel: Could not connect to host anonsvn.kde.org. |
| 14:33.21 | coh | must be down then |
| 14:33.36 | grepper | 64 bytes from 134.2.170.97: icmp_seq=1 ttl=43 time=139.2 ms |
| 14:34.04 | grepper | doesn't mean that the svn server isn't having problems though |
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| 14:34.40 | coh | can you connect to svn? |
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| 14:35.17 | grepper | no |
| 14:35.32 | coh | ahh ok :) |
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| 14:35.54 | grepper | ok, working now |
| 14:35.58 | grepper | try again |
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| 14:36.46 | TomTom | hi there... on my secondary screen there is NO window with a frame... i can't move/min/max windows without a frame... how to get the frames back. on the primary screen all is just normal |
| 14:36.50 | TomTom | any idea? |
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| 14:40.43 | Sadmep | Anyone here know much about QDoubleValidator? |
| 14:40.56 | PhilRod | Sadmep: they will in #kde-devel |
| 14:41.01 | Sadmep | k thx |
| 14:41.17 | Sadmep | /close |
| 14:41.19 | Sadmep | /quit |
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| 14:44.13 | coh | hmm.. there is no Makefile.cvs ... per instructioN: make -f Makefile.cvs |
| 14:44.26 | coh | for the kdenonbeta/xinput |
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| 14:46.20 | grepper | coh: svn co -N |
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| 14:46.53 | grepper | svn co -N svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk/kdenonbeta |
| 14:47.06 | grepper | as per the instructions :) |
| 14:47.17 | coh | yeah.. but i was told just to get to the xinput module .. |
| 14:47.26 | coh | without the kdenonbeta.. i need the entire kdenonbeta? |
| 14:49.19 | coh | what does -N do ? |
| 14:49.45 | grepper | gets just the root where the files you need are |
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| 14:50.56 | coh | i'll get the entire kdenonbeta |
| 14:51.25 | grepper | why ? |
| 14:51.49 | grepper | svn -N works fine |
| 14:52.18 | PhilRod | are you sure kdenonbeta is in svn? I thought stuff got moved from there |
| 14:52.30 | PhilRod | to kdeplayground and kdereview |
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| 14:54.41 | grepper | ok |
| 14:54.50 | canllaith | Yeah it is PhilRod I got unsermake from it today |
| 14:54.57 | PhilRod | oh, ok |
| 14:57.02 | TomTom | aaaghs... what is that? how to get the window frames back ? is there a window manager missing on my second screen ? |
| 14:57.49 | TomTom | also its not possible to get the window (without frame) into focus!!! |
| 14:58.51 | PhilRod | that'll be it - missing a WM on the second screen. I don't understand how multiple screens work, so I can't help you sorry |
| 15:00.07 | benJIman | export DISPLAY=(numberofsecondscreendisplay) && kwin& perhaps |
| 15:00.50 | Alethes | canllaith: did you see those screenshots of IE7? |
| 15:01.54 | Alethes | canllaith: http://www.clothedandy.com/Writings/IE 7 Beta 1/ <-- take note of the color scheme |
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| 15:04.26 | mobtek | hehe looks like baghiraverde |
| 15:04.32 | mobtek | on plastik |
| 15:04.53 | Alethes | the color scheme is almost identical to one I did a month or so ago |
| 15:04.59 | Alethes | hang on, I'll do a screenshot |
| 15:05.08 | mobtek | ahh hehe |
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| 15:06.17 | Alethes | I'm on dialup, so it'll take a bit ot upload |
| 15:06.48 | mobtek | smoke if you got 'em |
| 15:06.55 | Alethes | exactly |
| 15:07.36 | Alethes | ...still waiting |
| 15:07.40 | coh | hmm.. i get anothe weird error |
| 15:07.45 | coh | svn up arts |
| 15:07.45 | coh | svn: Unknown hostname 'anonsvn.kde.org |
| 15:08.09 | coh | it said i needed to get arts kdebase and kdelibs |
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| 15:08.52 | huhmz | try 134.2.170.97 instead of anoncvs.kde.org |
| 15:08.59 | huhmz | anonsvn.kde.org i mean |
| 15:09.10 | coh | why does it says theres problems with svn up ? |
| 15:09.25 | coh | im not sure what svn up does :/ |
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| 15:09.48 | Alethes | http://www.alethes.net/terra.png |
| 15:11.04 | coh | do i really need 'svn up <modulename>' ? |
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| 15:12.10 | coh | i just want this one goddamned module kdenonbeta/xinput .. |
| 15:12.17 | coh | why do i have to go through so much just to get this one module |
| 15:12.20 | PhilRod | if you want to update the checkout of a module that you've already got, yes |
| 15:12.22 | Alethes | mobtek: check that shot |
| 15:12.36 | PhilRod | coh: because it's alpha-quality and not ready for end users |
| 15:12.44 | coh | :) |
| 15:13.08 | mobtek | Alethes: hahah yeah ok :) |
| 15:13.27 | mobtek | doh no wonder I had no apidocs or qt docs I had -doc in my make.conf |
| 15:13.36 | mobtek | ok sleep time |
| 15:13.38 | mobtek | night |
| 15:13.43 | Alethes | I'm gonna post this scheme on kde-look 'cause I don't want people thinking I copied MS |
| 15:13.55 | mobtek | hahah |
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| 15:15.17 | coh | i'll probably ask more questions on how to compile ;P .. its taking a while to check out kdelibs |
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| 15:19.59 | ClaudioFelix | please.. im having trouble setting anti-aliasing fonts through kiosktool on KDE3.4.1... what should I do on kdesktoprc to enable them instead? |
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| 15:23.57 | PhilRod | I think that's set in kdeglobals - let me check |
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| 15:26.08 | PhilRod | I have: |
| 15:26.09 | PhilRod | XftHintStyle=hintmedium |
| 15:26.10 | PhilRod | XftSubPixel=rgb |
| 15:26.29 | PhilRod | in kdeglobals - there might be other relevant stuff, but that's all I noticed at a glance |
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| 15:26.45 | ClaudioFelix | i have only XftHintStyle=hintmedium |
| 15:26.51 | ClaudioFelix | and no XftSubPixel.. |
| 15:27.03 | ClaudioFelix | but thats indeed what i chose on kiosktool |
| 15:27.28 | ClaudioFelix | the strange thing is that users under this profile are still getting non antialiased fonts :/ |
| 15:28.03 | ClaudioFelix | and when i open up kiosktool again the anti-aliased setting is unchecked |
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| 15:38.43 | DrBair | I'm interested in becoming a developer for KDE. I started reading over some of the documentation. However, in light of the upcoming switches to QT/KDE 4, I was wondering where I might fit in best as a new developer. |
| 15:39.10 | avuton | DrBair: maybe better to ask in #kde4-devel? |
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| 15:41.58 | PhilRod | DrBair: what sort of thing are you interested in working on? |
| 15:42.47 | DrBair | PhilRod: I haven't really made a decision on it yet, this will be my first major project that I'd be joining |
| 15:43.23 | lauri | right this minute, your best bet might be to look at the extragear and playground apps |
| 15:44.12 | lauri | they'll all also need porting to KDE 4 eventually, but trunk KDE development is right in the middle of the change, and everyone who would normally be jumping to help you out, is busy |
| 15:44.40 | PhilRod | hmm, good point |
| 15:44.45 | lauri | but like, the amarok folks are nice, and have a good community, and there's apps like k3b and things |
| 15:45.21 | lauri | they all still are being developed, and for them, until KDE 4 is a fair bit further along, they won't be jumping to it |
| 15:45.33 | lauri | and by then, you'll probably be comformtable enough with things to go along for the ride |
| 15:45.44 | ClaudioFelix | guys.. anyone with kiosktool experience here? |
| 15:45.54 | ClaudioFelix | im having some trouble with it.. |
| 15:46.01 | PhilRod | DrBair: as lauri says, there's just been a fairly big switch in svn, so KDE 4 development is going to be quite hard to get into for a while |
| 15:46.29 | DrBair | any idea how different KDE 4 will be from a programming prospective? |
| 15:46.45 | lauri | the very early stages of it was merged yesterday |
| 15:46.52 | lauri | and it won't be released for about a year |
| 15:46.59 | lauri | (in other words, right now, not a clue) |
| 15:47.17 | lauri | probably not much, in general terms, more in some specific areas than others |
| 15:47.20 | DrBair | i didn't realize it was that far off |
| 15:47.33 | lauri | time spent on KDE 3 based apps won't be at all wasted |
| 15:48.11 | DrBair | thats kind of what my concern was about jumping into it during a transition period |
| 15:48.27 | lauri | there's still another whole KDE 3 release yet to come (3.5) so it's got some life left yet |
| 15:48.43 | DrBair | but if its not a waste then I guess I should start studying up |
| 15:48.52 | lauri | but no, I think you can feel quite safe in that regard at least |
| 15:49.46 | PhilRod | DrBair: you can look on bugs.kde.org for "Junior Jobs" and/or write to kde-quality@kde.org if you're looking for something particular to get involved with |
| 15:50.12 | PhilRod | (see quality.kde.org for details about the quality teams) |
| 15:51.35 | PhilRod | there's a link on the front page of b.k.o to a list of available JJs |
| 15:52.19 | PhilRod | and of course there's documentation, translation, artwork, promotion, websites and so on if you feel like a break from coding :-) |
| 15:52.45 | DrBair | I'll be sure to check all that out, I just subscribed to the quality mailing list yesterday |
| 15:53.03 | PhilRod | ok, cool :-) |
| 15:53.37 | DrBair | but I have to cover all the basics before I dive in. they do have a nice little guide on there for that |
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| 15:59.08 | PhilRod | DrBair: oh yeah, another thing - if you're just working on something in one of the apps modules, you can just compile that module from svn (you don't need kdelibs, kdebase) |
| 15:59.46 | DrBair | ok, I'll keep that in mind |
| 15:59.58 | DrBair | I thought about jumping in with the Kopete team... this irc client of theirs needs some help :-) |
| 16:01.26 | Tilos | NOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooooot anoooooooooother IRCCCCCCCCCCCcc-clieeeeeeeeeeennttt!!! :D |
| 16:01.29 | PhilRod | kopete for IRC seems weird to me - I'm surprised it works at all :-) |
| 16:01.56 | PhilRod | konversation is quite popular if you're looking for a KDE IRC client |
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| 16:02.20 | PhilRod | Tilos: heh, no - the kopete one already exists: DrBair was just talking about improving it :-) |
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| 16:02.44 | Sho_ | Yup, Konversation is nice |
| 16:03.04 | lippel | you can even do IRC over jabber ;) |
| 16:03.26 | Tilos | I suggest improving.... file transfers. :D |
| 16:03.37 | lippel | so using kopete for IRC isn't _that_ strange |
| 16:03.49 | DrBair | yeah, I was talking about improvement |
| 16:04.50 | Tilos | Of course file transfers is hardly a "junior" type work. :( |
| 16:04.57 | DrBair | if I'm going to start getting into making KDE apps should I start using arts *quivers* |
| 16:05.09 | DrBair | I can tackle anything :-) |
| 16:05.13 | PhilRod | doesn't matter really |
| 16:05.21 | DrBair | I was hoping you'd say that |
| 16:05.34 | PhilRod | I mean, unless you're working on some kind of multimedia app, you can avoid it :-) |
| 16:06.56 | Tilos | What's wrong with arts? |
| 16:07.46 | Tilos | (I'm not trying to argue the other point, I just had no idea it needed replacing). |
| 16:08.08 | DrBair | I used to use the yoper distribution and arts liked to steal the sound card all the time |
| 16:08.29 | DrBair | and life seems to be just fine relying on dmix |
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| 16:14.18 | Bearcat | hey folks |
| 16:15.33 | Bearcat | I've got a few od problems with my kde installation that have plauged me in both versions 3.4.1 and 3.4.2. I assume it may have something to do with switching to a 64-bit processor, but since this is a new installation alltogether, i'm not sure if that really is the problem |
| 16:16.10 | lauri | nor are we |
| 16:16.18 | Bearcat | what's happening is that apps are not saving my settings. When i open up an app, the defualts overwrite my settings |
| 16:16.20 | lauri | perhaps if you tell us what they are, we can hazard guesses though |
| 16:16.33 | Bearcat | I'm getting to that :) |
| 16:16.44 | Bearcat | take kopete for example |
| 16:16.47 | lauri | and I assume you have checked permissions all over the place |
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| 16:16.54 | Bearcat | yes |
| 16:17.01 | tamir | hi |
| 16:17.15 | lauri | (because su has a nasty habit of clobbering KDE, you should always "su -" if you're not using kdesu) |
| 16:17.21 | tamir | does anybody know how I can save my filter settings in Kmail? |
| 16:18.07 | Bearcat | the file ircnetworks.xml is moved to a backup everytime i open kopete and the one from share is used. |
| 16:18.11 | lauri | Bearcat: I don't know, we haven't had any particular rash of reports that KDE on 64bit platforms can't save settings, and I know quite a few people who have tem |
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| 16:18.43 | tamir | ah - no problem found it already! |
| 16:18.49 | lauri | timestamps perhaps? does your machine have dodgy timekeeping? maybe it thinks your config files are from the future |
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| 16:19.12 | lauri | although I can't see why kopete would care |
| 16:20.04 | Bearcat | i can make a new network connection with kopete open, adn watch the ircnetworks.xml file be created. When i close and then open kopete i can watch the file be copied to ircnetworks..xml.backup and of course kopete complains that the network i just created does nto exist. I can watch the same thing happen with korganiser |
| 16:20.40 | Bearcat | lauri: that's a good thought. Let me test that. |
| 16:20.44 | lauri | all users? |
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| 16:21.12 | lauri | ie, if you create a brand new user, with no config, and run X as that user, and run kopete, does it still do this? |
| 16:21.35 | lauri | that would at least tell us if it's something about *your* environment, or a wider scale issue |
| 16:22.00 | Bearcat | the time stamp is fine |
| 16:22.07 | lauri | (if you do that, given su's propensity for brain damage, do make sure to log all the way out, and log in directly as that user, just to rule that out too |
| 16:22.09 | Bearcat | and it happens for a regular user as well |
| 16:22.19 | lauri | a regular user as well? |
| 16:22.25 | Bearcat | err..nor regular...i meant "new" |
| 16:22.43 | lauri | ok |
| 16:22.48 | Bearcat | run kde as root? *shudder* |
| 16:23.00 | lauri | that's a wacky bug you have there mister :) |
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| 16:23.41 | Bearcat | yeah, i've reported it to kde and they say "well, it must be QT's fault" And of course QT is gonna say it's KDE's fault |
| 16:23.49 | Bearcat | lauri: thank you. I do try. |
| 16:23.53 | lauri | what bug number? |
| 16:24.12 | Bearcat | i'd be tempted to say it's rieserfs but one other person has reported it and i thinnk they wre on ext3 |
| 16:24.16 | Bearcat | let me look up the bug number |
| 16:24.39 | lauri | the only ones I can come up with, one had a securelevel set by an admin, even root couldn't save some files |
| 16:24.49 | Bearcat | Bug 107418 |
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| 16:25.06 | lauri | and another had a drive mounted read onlly (I think you'd have noticed that rather earlier, if you home directory was read only) |
| 16:25.14 | Bearcat | yeah |
| 16:25.38 | Bearcat | it's only kde apps that seem to have this prob and not all kde apps display it. |
| 16:26.23 | lauri | just a sec, I'll ask the kontact guys if they have ever seen anything like it |
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| 16:27.10 | Bearcat | also (probably an unrelated issue) my menu's (file, edit ect) are somtimes repeated twice. Ie. in kopete the edit menu has 2 "Configure Kopete" under Settings. |
| 16:27.33 | Bearcat | lauri: kontact or kopete? |
| 16:27.45 | lauri | kontact |
| 16:27.52 | lauri | kopete already had their say, let's ask someone else |
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| 16:29.04 | Bearcat | lauri: thak you very much |
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| 16:41.30 | Bearcat | brb |
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| 16:42.09 | NullAcht15 | Hi, when I'm doing "make -f Makefile.cvs" in a recent svn-snapshot of kdelibs, I'm told that "KDE requires unsermake 0.4 at the moment". |
| 16:42.18 | NullAcht15 | Where can I get that from? |
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| 16:45.06 | shantanoo | hi! |
| 16:45.28 | shantanoo | any idea how to enable UTF-8 inside konsole? |
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| 16:46.28 | pinotree | shantanoo: settings->encoding |
| 16:46.33 | freqmod | unsermake is in kde svn, kdenonbeta svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk/kdenonbeta/unsermake |
| 16:47.01 | NullAcht15 | thx |
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| 16:48.09 | shantanoo | pinotree: (( |
| 16:48.12 | shantanoo | :((* |
| 16:48.19 | pinotree | ? |
| 16:48.27 | shantanoo | pinotree: 'setxkbmap -symbols "us(pc105)+dev+group(alt_shift_toggle)" |
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| 16:48.44 | shantanoo | i set the above thing. installed the fonts. |
| 16:48.47 | pinotree | ? O_O |
| 16:49.12 | shantanoo | can view the font properly in kmail/kate... |
| 16:49.16 | shantanoo | but not in konsole |
| 16:49.22 | shantanoo | it shows '?????' |
| 16:49.48 | shantanoo | any idea? |
| 16:49.52 | ClaudioFelix | guys.. anyone used to editing profile settings with kiosktool |
| 16:49.59 | ClaudioFelix | i guess i might have found a but in it |
| 16:50.28 | coh | shantanoo: i can't figure out how to get any bitmap font to actually work |
| 16:50.36 | coh | they say they work, but they really dont |
| 16:51.07 | shantanoo | coh: i have seen it working on SuSE 9.3. But can't get it working on FreeBSD |
| 16:51.27 | coh | shantanoo: i've seen it done before also.. but the people who know how to do it keep it a closely guarded secret |
| 16:51.47 | shantanoo | lol |
| 16:52.07 | shantanoo | coh: it started working immediatly without doing any modifications |
| 16:52.09 | stibby | what's the best app for playing movie? (.avi) |
| 16:52.33 | coh | shantanoo: for instance the font: dos-emu-vga-19x11 |
| 16:52.39 | shantanoo | stibby: mplayer? |
| 16:52.44 | stibby | okay |
| 16:52.48 | coh | that font won't work |
| 16:52.52 | coh | unless you know the secret |
| 16:53.10 | coh | i dont know the secret to using that font |
| 16:53.14 | ClaudioFelix | how is it possible to set KDE up so it already uses anti-aliased fonts for all users (bypassing kpersonalizer) |
| 16:53.16 | ClaudioFelix | ? |
| 16:54.46 | shantanoo | :) |
| 16:55.04 | ClaudioFelix | I already got kpersonalizer out of the way by setting FirstLogin=false on kpersonalizerrc... |
| 16:55.57 | ClaudioFelix | but i would also like to set fonts anti-aliasing on.. any ideas where could i get this done? |
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| 16:57.16 | coh | did anyone notice theres like no documentation, everything is word of mouth with linux? |
| 16:57.37 | ClaudioFelix | yeah :( |
| 16:57.51 | ClaudioFelix | sometimes thats good.. but sometimes its not :P |
| 16:57.53 | ClaudioFelix | hehe |
| 16:57.56 | coh | it's usually not good |
| 16:58.00 | ClaudioFelix | like right now |
| 16:58.03 | coh | i can't see why it would be good |
| 16:58.13 | ClaudioFelix | yeah.. it cant be good.. |
| 16:58.21 | ClaudioFelix | the best thing is having both |
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| 16:58.29 | coh | it's just that the people who use it dont want many people using it |
| 16:58.30 | ClaudioFelix | :P |
| 16:58.35 | coh | so they dont document anything |
| 16:58.40 | tbscope | coh, that's not true |
| 16:58.55 | coh | tbscope, not to the people trying to learn |
| 16:59.10 | tbscope | kde has some good docs |
| 16:59.23 | coh | tbscope, i've been trying to use this dosemu font for weeks |
| 16:59.39 | coh | it just produces symbols |
| 16:59.44 | coh | in the docs, it says it should just 'work' |
| 16:59.49 | tbscope | maybe, if you don't find a lot of information, it's because not a lot of people use it |
| 16:59.50 | coh | but the people who get it to work just say that |
| 17:00.09 | coh | yeah, everything should be documented |
| 17:00.16 | tbscope | coh, a good tip: www.gentoo.org -> check out their forums. Most things can be applied to any linux distribution |
| 17:00.16 | coh | it seems like it's only the things nobody uses, is what i use |
| 17:00.42 | coh | ... |
| 17:00.52 | coh | if it was only that simple to get this dos emu font working |
| 17:00.55 | PhilRod | we could have an enormous discussion about why documentation is sometimes lacking |
| 17:00.58 | NullAcht15 | freqmod: I checked out unsermake, but I can't figure out how to compile/install it... |
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| 17:01.20 | NullAcht15 | (I've never really used python) |
| 17:01.21 | coh | dos emu and the wacom module |
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| 17:01.23 | PhilRod | the most useful conclusion we could come to is that, with open source, you can help to improve the situation |
| 17:01.36 | coh | those are the 2 things i'm stuck on .. |
| 17:01.50 | ClaudioFelix | so guys.. can anyone help me with this anti-aliasing setting? |
| 17:01.54 | Bearcat | lauri: you around? |
| 17:01.58 | ClaudioFelix | im also stuck here |
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| 17:03.31 | coh | probably because when everyone was moving over to linux, i missed out on all the discussion |
| 17:03.39 | coh | so i never learned how to do the oldschool stuff |
| 17:03.42 | coh | like using bitmapped fonts |
| 17:03.46 | tbscope | NullAcht15, python code is interpretted, it doesn't need to be compiled |
| 17:04.21 | PhilRod | NullAcht15: get it from svn and put its directory in your PATH |
| 17:04.26 | PhilRod | done |
| 17:04.32 | PhilRod | doesn't the readme say that? |
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| 17:06.38 | PhilRod | NullAcht15: and then run "unsermake" instead of "make" to compile KDE modules |
| 17:06.46 | PhilRod | and "unsermake install" etc |
| 17:07.07 | tbscope | I find the -p or progress option of unsermake very nice |
| 17:07.50 | PhilRod | ooh, I should try that |
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| 17:16.33 | `Nomad | Hi all.. I use ksmoothdock and I'm wondering if I hav eto keep the kicker showing at all. Can I live without it? |
| 17:17.10 | jrloki | hey i also use this ksmoothdock |
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| 17:17.44 | jrloki | do you know, is there a way to see a preview in the desktops? |
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| 17:22.46 | rkroetch | Anyone run the new QT4 trunk? -- I've been running trunk SVN for quite awhile before it started needing QT4 and have been content with the stability, can anyone vouch for most things still working + semi-stable environment in QT4 trunk? |
| 17:23.14 | rkroetch | Well, the new KDE trunk rather, that requires QT4, not the trunk for QT |
| 17:24.06 | tbscope | rkroetch, trunk is not stable |
| 17:24.14 | tbscope | most things don't work correctly |
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| 17:25.06 | rkroetch | Is it stable enough to run and work on bugs, or it is un-runnable (as a desktop) |
| 17:25.56 | tbscope | kdelibs can be compiled and linked I guess, at least, I'm now at 76% of it. So yes, I guess you can fix bugs etc... but, don't expect to run kde from trunk though |
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| 17:26.30 | tbscope | btw... check out the channel #kde4-devel if you want to help |
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| 17:29.50 | `Nomad | jrloki: Hi, sorry, was AFK. back now |
| 17:30.25 | `Nomad | Were you asking me about previews of the desktops? |
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| 17:32.35 | `Nomad | so no one can tell me about running kicker-less if I use ksmoothdock? |
| 17:33.03 | `Nomad | I've tried figuring it out through the doc. but not even sure where it gets started from |
| 17:33.43 | lauri | Autostart |
| 17:33.43 | `Nomad | My personal one? |
| 17:33.43 | lauri | or, autostart in fact, the global one |
| 17:33.43 | `Nomad | ahh ok |
| 17:33.43 | `Nomad | so I can just turn it off and be good? |
| 17:33.48 | lauri | put a .desktop file in Autostart with hidden=true ought to override it |
| 17:34.04 | lauri | (I'm surprised just kiling it and saving your session with it not running doesn't) |
| 17:34.18 | `Nomad | Oh I haven't tried killing it :) |
| 17:34.38 | `Nomad | I liek to know as much as I can before jigging with system things |
| 17:34.56 | `Nomad | I also want to be sure I can restart it if I find I need it :) |
| 17:35.11 | `Nomad | thanks a lot |
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| 17:36.44 | `Nomad | gonna try it now |
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| 17:39.49 | Bearcat | lauri: you around? |
| 17:40.49 | Bearcat | bah..interuptions...i'll be back in 20 min |
| 17:43.55 | lauri | hey Bearcat |
| 17:44.04 | lauri | I asked the kontact guys, they have also had reports of it |
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| 17:44.19 | lauri | but they don't know any more than that (and i didn't get an answer yet if it's maybe 64 bit related) |
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| 17:49.55 | miklos | Hi all! |
| 17:51.13 | ClaudioFelix | r7syzhrs |
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| 17:53.23 | miklos | ? |
| 17:53.43 | miklos | what' that?: r7szhrs |
| 17:53.45 | miklos | ? |
| 17:53.49 | ClaudioFelix | hehe.. wrong window :) |
| 17:54.04 | grepper | wrong dimension |
| 17:54.38 | ClaudioFelix | yep.. it *was* a passwd ;P |
| 17:54.42 | ClaudioFelix | heheh |
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| 17:56.21 | miklos | okay:-D, but..., I have got Windows, but i not use hat! because Windows is SHIT! Linux better than Windows:-D, and Machintos is thye Best |
| 17:56.24 | miklos | :-D |
| 17:56.31 | miklos | I like Linux |
| 17:56.33 | miklos | :_) |
| 17:56.35 | miklos | :-) |
| 17:58.06 | Bearcat | lauri: i'm back |
| 17:58.29 | Bearcat | lauri: forgive my ignorace, but what does kopete have to do with kontact? |
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| 18:00.02 | Bearcat | lauri: also, i find that simply connecting to a custom irc network moves that file to a backup as well |
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| 18:05.02 | anolis | hi |
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| 18:05.35 | PhilRod | hi anolis |
| 18:05.55 | anolis | i was wondering if any of the desktop gui's use pixel shader technology |
| 18:06.14 | anolis | like reflection and refraction |
| 18:06.19 | PhilRod | I imagine that would be done at the X level, if at all |
| 18:06.26 | PhilRod | though I don't know |
| 18:06.46 | anolis | why arent the devels doing this? |
| 18:07.18 | whirm | anolis: there is a window theme for kwin that does that, search in www.kde-look.org |
| 18:07.56 | anolis | whats kwin? |
| 18:08.17 | whirm | kde window manager |
| 18:08.22 | anolis | oh |
| 18:08.59 | anolis | i need to get a new distro, this one is lame |
| 18:09.00 | PhilRod | my guess would be that it's because it's (almost) entirely useless :-) |
| 18:09.03 | whirm | it does that via opengl, and it's a cpu eater |
| 18:09.22 | whirm | anolis: what distro are you using? |
| 18:09.34 | anolis | lol, FoX linux |
| 18:11.03 | anolis | im looking for a fancy, pretty, modern os |
| 18:11.34 | coh | FancY linux :) |
| 18:11.51 | lippel | hurd? |
| 18:13.21 | whirm | unununium: http://unununium.org/ |
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| 18:15.02 | anolis | unununium? |
| 18:15.11 | miklos | What's that? |
| 18:15.36 | anolis | an os |
| 18:16.02 | anolis | looks nice whirm |
| 18:16.28 | whirm | anolis: i found the windeco:http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=18983 |
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| 18:17.42 | Bearcat | off to work |
| 18:17.44 | Bearcat | letaer all |
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| 18:18.46 | anolis | whats a good site to find out about all of the latest and greatest linux breakthroughs |
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| 18:19.28 | PhilRod | dot.kde.org, of course :-) |
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| 18:23.29 | coh | is there a program like top but graphics? |
| 18:23.38 | coh | that shows me what cpu everything is using? |
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| 18:24.22 | coh | norbertito! |
| 18:24.25 | Bubbling_Zombie | coh : ksysguard? |
| 18:24.33 | coh | ksysguard .. i'll check it out |
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| 18:29.40 | anisX | who are expert in hardware here ? |
| 18:29.44 | miklos | who can BMXing ? |
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| 18:31.26 | whirm | coh: ntop, or press control+escape |
| 18:31.35 | Whisky_ | I can't install cursor themes package. I have a Package.bz2 but when i try to install it, it says it seems to be an invalid cursor theme paclage!!!!!!!1111111111 |
| 18:34.24 | miklos | Whisky_: try again! |
| 18:34.38 | miklos | I think, now you can install |
| 18:34.39 | Whisky_ | tried it around 12 times |
| 18:34.55 | miklos | okay,...., I dont know... |
| 18:35.17 | Whisky_ | :| |
| 18:36.13 | miklos | sorry |
| 18:36.47 | miklos | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:36.59 | miklos | he/she can help for you |
| 18:37.00 | geek_ | well, amybe that's an old package with no longe rconform the new standard |
| 18:37.41 | geek_ | try uncompress otehr package that works .. then compare the one which works and the one which doesn't work |
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| 18:37.54 | geek_ | taht will explain something I'm sure |
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| 18:38.01 | Whisky_ | k :| |
| 18:38.37 | geek_ | add put some smiles when working on it okay :) |
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| 18:39.30 | Whisky_ | k :D |
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| 18:43.36 | anisX | does the stock fan for CPUs is different compares to 1.7 and 3.0 Ghz Intel Pentium ? |
| 18:44.18 | anisX | im using 1.7 CPUs fan on 3.0 proccessor.. |
| 18:44.22 | miklos | who can for me? :-), i can play song's(mp3, wma) with xmms, but i can'play song lists, just i play 1 song, again play next song..........., and i would like play songlist! |
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| 18:44.48 | PhilRod | miklos: ask in #xmms |
| 18:45.06 | geek_ | do xmms have a repeat song option? |
| 18:45.09 | PhilRod | or use a player that doesn't suck, like juk or amarok :-) |
| 18:45.21 | geek_ | if xmms do have, I suspect it is checked |
| 18:45.30 | anisX | PhilRod: amarok rules! |
| 18:45.37 | anisX | PhilRod: can u help me with that question ? |
| 18:46.05 | miklos | thx |
| 18:47.15 | PhilRod | anisX: I know nothing at all about hardware, sorry :-/ |
| 18:47.31 | anisX | that is okey |
| 18:47.38 | anisX | i hope no smoke magic from my CPU |
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| 18:49.17 | miklos | Who are from Hungary? |
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| 18:50.31 | PhilRod | miklos: type "/msg chanserv list #*hu" to see hungarian channels |
| 18:50.38 | miklos | no one? ohhh |
| 18:50.38 | miklos | lol |
| 18:50.52 | pakos | hmm, a fellow hungarian? :) |
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| 19:04.31 | miklos | actice chat...., again |
| 19:04.33 | miklos | .......:_SD |
| 19:04.34 | miklos | :-D |
| 19:04.34 | Sho_ | Err, just compiled 3.4.2 and now any link in Konqueror pops up an "Open with ..." dialog? |
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| 19:08.17 | Jende | is there some prog in KDE, so i can show simple message with it, for example: progname "Error: bla bla bla" |
| 19:08.47 | Jende | and pop up simple message dialog with text Error: bla bla bla |
| 19:09.06 | PhilRod | kdialog |
| 19:09.36 | Jende | yes thanks :)) |
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| 19:18.13 | miklos | and, i can't play .avi files ith XINE! Why? and i found some codec, but thats codec's are wrond |
| 19:18.14 | miklos | g |
| 19:18.17 | miklos | wrong |
| 19:18.19 | miklos | bad |
| 19:18.36 | mikl | miklos: you sure talk a lot |
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| 19:20.18 | Flendor | Good evening. |
| 19:20.27 | miklos | hi |
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| 19:24.53 | ravencrow | how do you add more audio visualizations for kaffeine? |
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| 19:25.51 | bryan | salve a tutti |
| 19:26.07 | bryan | qualcuno puo darmi dei consigli su linux? |
| 19:26.24 | pakos | english, please |
| 19:27.31 | bryan | i dont speak english |
| 19:28.14 | pakos | sorry, then i cannot help you out :-/ |
| 19:28.17 | pakos | deutsch? |
| 19:28.19 | pakos | magyar? :) |
| 19:28.41 | Flendor | Probieren #kde-de ? |
| 19:28.46 | ravencrow | heh |
| 19:28.47 | Flendor | Oh, nein. :/ |
| 19:28.52 | pakos | :-) |
| 19:28.58 | bryan | france |
| 19:29.07 | Flendor | bryan- Il y'a kde-fr |
| 19:30.07 | miklos | wow, Patkos, te magyar vagy? |
| 19:30.11 | miklos | tudsz magyarul? |
| 19:30.15 | miklos | én magyar vagyok |
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| 19:31.08 | miklos | PATKOS!!! beszélsz magyarul nem? |
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| 19:32.41 | pakos | miklos: yeah, hungarian too, but stick to the 'official' lang of the channel :) |
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| 19:37.38 | ValheruLord | hi all... where are the files that kopete downloaded from msn? |
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| 19:40.32 | coh | ok.. i've just compiled the kdenonbeta package..and in every directory it produced a Makefile ..it says it was generated by automake |
| 19:40.46 | coh | err |
| 19:40.48 | coh | i have to do make now |
| 19:41.03 | coh | make install :) |
| 19:41.19 | coh | ./configure took so long i forgot about that step :) |
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| 19:43.40 | PhilRod | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:43.50 | PhilRod | ie "cd xinput && make && make install" |
| 19:46.32 | PhilRod | otherwise you'll be there all week - kdenonbeta is fairly large |
| 19:48.04 | LabThug | Is there any place that breaks down KDE installs by OS/Distro type? |
| 19:48.22 | LabThug | table, graph, presentation doesn't matter, just the numbers |
| 19:48.56 | PhilRod | if you find one, tell me. Could be interesting :-) |
| 19:49.28 | PhilRod | I very much doubt that reliable figures exist, though. Coming up with a way of getting accurate numbers would be very hard |
| 19:50.10 | LabThug | even if they're fairlly close estimates, that's fine for my purpose |
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| 19:50.49 | LabThug | what I basically want to know is what OS/Distro does KDE most focus on |
| 19:51.04 | birchoff | ok what si the best media player under kde |
| 19:51.15 | LabThug | cause while I have KDE on FreeBSD, I'm sure it'll look nicer on a different *ix OS/Distro |
| 19:51.31 | LabThug | birchoff: I use kmplayer |
| 19:51.44 | LabThug | but I make no guarantees that it's the "best" |
| 19:52.13 | birchoff | because I have noatun and kaboodle |
| 19:52.18 | PhilRod | it *looks* the same on FreeBSD as on any other *nix, although there are a few (a *very* few) functionality differences |
| 19:52.29 | birchoff | but they have crashed while trying to play some anime |
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| 19:52.35 | LabThug | PhilRod, I disagree. My fonts here SUCK |
| 19:52.55 | PhilRod | but KDE doesn't focus on any one (or many) distro - google for 'KDE package policy' |
| 19:53.07 | PhilRod | ah, well that's more to do with X than KDE |
| 19:53.14 | PhilRod | unless you just mean the default KDE fonts |
| 19:53.30 | LabThug | yes, I do |
| 19:53.42 | PhilRod | the good folks of #kde-freebsd might be able to help you on that one |
| 19:54.08 | LabThug | heh, that's the problem with IRC, you always find out you need to be on a different channel |
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| 20:03.24 | Thorrn4 | hello! I was wondering: how can I downgrade K3B? I dont like the latest version, a few things changed that I liked, and I cant get use to them (Im on a Simply Mepis - Debian based System) |
| 20:03.58 | PhilRod | you'll have to ask in #yourdistro |
| 20:04.09 | Thorrn4 | ok, thank you |
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| 20:05.46 | Flendor | Now listening to: The Cranberries - Daffodil Lament <- I really like this song |
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| 20:17.06 | birchoff | anyone here familiar with noatun |
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| 20:17.21 | PhilRod | birchoff: just ask |
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| 20:22.02 | coh | imaplogin.cpp:287:25: imaplogin.moc: No such file or directory |
| 20:22.02 | coh | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:22.10 | coh | from installing kdenonbeta :x |
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| 20:23.10 | birchoff | ok |
| 20:23.26 | birchoff | ummm which package is this file supposed to be in libart_lgpl_2 |
| 20:23.40 | birchoff | everytime I try to run noatun it errors out with that |
| 20:27.23 | PhilRod | birchoff: probably the package called libart_lgpl, but it depends on your distro. Anyway, I'd imagine kdelibs should depend on it... |
| 20:27.31 | PhilRod | you'll probably want to ask in #yourdistro |
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| 20:33.07 | birchoff | philRod: I did some googling and its a gnome package... I have gnome installed but why does a kde program have non kde dependencies |
| 20:34.09 | mdouhan | birchoff: cause KDE did not invent every loib under the sun :) |
| 20:34.18 | mdouhan | s/loib/lib |
| 20:34.33 | mdouhan | and instead of reinventing the wheel every time they use existing libs |
| 20:35.11 | mdouhan | birchoff: kind of makes sense when you think about it, else KDE would have their own xorg, gnome would have their xrg etc etc |
| 20:36.08 | birchoff | mdouhan in that extreme case it makes sense... but that prevents me from being able to ignore installing anything that has to do with gnome |
| 20:36.44 | mdouhan | birchoff: so find an app that does not need it but does the job |
| 20:37.04 | birchoff | true |
| 20:37.07 | mdouhan | but it is a policy wich I find rather strange :) |
| 20:37.23 | mdouhan | I am more of the kind, use what is best for the task, be it KDE or GNOME or whatever |
| 20:37.37 | birchoff | true |
| 20:37.54 | birchoff | but I am test driving KDE to see if I should re convert |
| 20:38.34 | mdouhan | if you testdrive means not installing any GNOME or non KDE stuff I thiknk your experience will be rather disappointing |
| 20:38.55 | birchoff | so I am learning |
| 20:39.12 | birchoff | LMAO |
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| 20:39.43 | birchoff | the reason I say this is because I run dropline gnome not regular gnome... and I think it is the reason I am having so much trouble with kde in the first place |
| 20:39.50 | Flendor | We need KDE-Apps that do ls and cd.. What about Kls and Kcd? |
| 20:40.01 | PhilRod | mdouhan: ooh, look at you, Mr "I know C, I'm so clever" :-D |
| 20:40.12 | Flendor | *How about |
| 20:40.16 | mdouhan | PhilRod: that was the only one I knew :) |
| 20:40.18 | PhilRod | Flendor: lol |
| 20:40.27 | PhilRod | mdouhan: j/k :-) |
| 20:40.30 | mdouhan | and then you can boot the KfileSystem |
| 20:40.44 | PhilRod | and the, um, kernel |
| 20:40.51 | PhilRod | hrm, that one was already done |
| 20:40.58 | PhilRod | didn't need to add a k |
| 20:41.06 | mdouhan | heh |
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| 20:41.19 | Flendor | Heheh |
| 20:41.31 | mdouhan | must be a KDE thing |
| 20:41.35 | spark_ | Hi there - can anyone tell me what the deal is with GPL graphics, can I use these unmodified on a (possibly) commercial website? |
| 20:41.44 | mdouhan | and how about the Keyboard |
| 20:42.09 | mdouhan | spark_: license talks lead to fights |
| 20:42.18 | PhilRod | spark_: ask in #debian - they like that sort of thing |
| 20:42.24 | mdouhan | spark_: and to be sure you will need to ask a laywer anyway |
| 20:42.42 | spark_ | sigh |
| 20:43.14 | spark_ | when I offer the images the way they were distributed, I'm complying to the reqs of the GPL, no? |
| 20:43.36 | PhilRod | spark_: we have no idea, and it's w-a-y off topic here |
| 20:43.43 | mdouhan | 22:42] <mdouhan> spark_: and to be sure you will need to ask a laywer anyway |
| 20:43.47 | birchoff | wow all this over my little question |
| 20:44.05 | PhilRod | and as mdouhan points out, license talk just leads to misery on all sides |
| 20:44.08 | mdouhan | birchoff: all the small tings.. :) |
| 20:44.15 | spark_ | ok ok, I'll stop :) |
| 20:44.20 | birchoff | mdouhan, aparently |
| 20:44.31 | CHodapp | PhilRod, try kargospleen, it's the KDE version of ls |
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| 20:44.45 | birchoff | ok this ins unforgiveable why is it kaboodle is linking agaisnt libesd when it kde has arts |
| 20:45.26 | mdouhan | birchoff: cause the arts author has said it is not maintained anymore or something? or they needed features from it that arts does not hvae |
| 20:45.39 | birchoff | interesting |
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| 20:46.00 | birchoff | what an intriguing web we weave |
| 20:46.24 | PhilRod | ...we first we practice to deceive |
| 20:46.32 | PhilRod | but no-one's deceiving anyone here :-) |
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| 20:47.03 | PhilRod | +=yet |
| 20:47.15 | Flendor | Phil deceives me often - He made me think frisbee is more fun than football! |
| 20:47.28 | mdouhan | he was correct |
| 20:47.39 | mdouhan | if by football you mean soccer |
| 20:48.08 | Flendor | No, I mean FOOTBALL, the one you play with your feet :P |
| 20:48.45 | mdouhan | all I can say is Maradona |
| 20:48.50 | PhilRod | well then I was entirely correct :-) |
| 20:48.53 | mdouhan | he handled the ball with his hands more than his feet |
| 20:49.03 | Flendor | It was not him, it was the Hand of God :P |
| 20:49.10 | mdouhan | and it is also the sport for movestars |
| 20:49.22 | mdouhan | movie even |
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| 20:49.47 | Flendor | Urgh.. CRT's are killing me :/ |
| 20:50.20 | htedrom | one proton at a time |
| 20:51.02 | birchoff | init 3 |
| 20:51.18 | PhilRod | htedrom: s/proton/photon/ ? |
| 20:52.04 | htedrom | PhilRod: yep |
| 20:52.24 | PhilRod | </pedantic> |
| 20:52.29 | htedrom | lol |
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| 20:52.45 | htedrom | </gracious> |
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| 20:59.52 | Flendor | Good night. |
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| 21:14.23 | hon | question about themeing: I don't know about the way kde genretes the default theme for the first login. Is there any set of files that get copied to $HOME/.kde in first login? |
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| 21:28.50 | M23 | am I missing something or can you not change the size of the icons on the K menu? |
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| 21:32.50 | hon | you can |
| 21:33.28 | M23 | okay, where do you do that then? |
| 21:33.29 | hon | put MenuEntryHeight=32 under [menus] in ~/.kde/share/config/kickerrc |
| 21:33.56 | hon | MenuEntryHeight=What ever you like as size |
| 21:33.56 | M23 | ahh, not on the control center then? |
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| 21:34.13 | hon | don't know, sorry |
| 21:34.16 | Frost | is there a way to make KDE ask for root password whenever necessary rather than spitting out a permission denied message box? |
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| 21:37.13 | Whisky_ | I switched to KDM so I could use some theme at the login. I use KDE but I want to use the login screen of GNOME, how can I switch back? |
| 21:37.54 | grepper | depends on the distro |
| 21:37.59 | Whisky_ | Debian |
| 21:38.01 | Whisky_ | Sarge |
| 21:38.11 | grepper | dpkg-reconfigure kdm |
| 21:38.19 | grepper | or apt-get remove gdm if you don't want it |
| 21:38.54 | Whisky_ | done :D |
| 21:39.03 | Whisky_ | i want to have the login screen of Gnome only :/ |
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| 21:39.18 | grepper | note you will not be able to shut down your machine from logout widget any more, nor "start new session" |
| 21:39.28 | grepper | not a big deal if you don't use those |
| 21:40.01 | M23 | ah so thats why that happens.... |
| 21:40.44 | Whisky_ | wait a minute, i just got the "Shutdown" and "Reboot" options in my Logout widget :| |
| 21:40.48 | Whisky_ | for the first time. |
| 21:41.43 | grepper | if you are using kdm, sure |
| 21:41.50 | Whisky_ | k so thats why, heh. |
| 21:41.57 | Whisky_ | Maybe i was using GDM before =p |
| 21:42.07 | Whisky_ | yes, GDM :P |
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| 21:42.36 | M23 | same for xdm I presume |
| 21:42.58 | c-101 | mmm |
| 21:43.23 | c-101 | i wrote a wishlist in bugs.kde.org to enable the "start new session, reboot" and so on when using gdm,.. |
| 21:43.24 | c-101 | buuut.... |
| 21:45.38 | thiago | c-101: simple: have the gdm guys use the kdm protocol |
| 21:45.42 | thiago | it's already established and working |
| 21:45.56 | thiago | the bug report should be on gdm, not ksmsession |
| 21:46.10 | c-101 | thiago: well... for sure they will say that the kdm guys could use the gdm protocol |
| 21:46.12 | Whisky_ | .:: reboot ::. |
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| 21:46.28 | thiago | c-101: so we're at an impasse |
| 21:46.34 | c-101 | yep |
| 21:46.40 | c-101 | umf... by the way |
| 21:46.49 | c-101 | does the kdelibs in svn compile for anyone out there? |
| 21:46.55 | c-101 | (using QT4.0) |
| 21:47.31 | thiago | I've heard people say it does |
| 21:47.34 | thiago | and it's Qt4 |
| 21:47.37 | eric_p | thiago: hi, could you read my question in #kde-devel if you have time ? |
| 21:48.37 | thiago | eric_p: sticky as in "show in all desktops"? |
| 21:48.55 | eric_p | thiago: yes |
| 21:49.06 | thiago | it's supposed to be minimised then |
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| 21:49.25 | eric_p | and 'positioned under other windows' |
| 21:49.45 | eric_p | but... why wasn't it minimised before ? |
| 21:49.58 | thiago | bug before |
| 21:50.02 | thiago | now it's workig properly |
| 21:50.25 | eric_p | the new behaviour is really annoying... i click 'show desktop' to look at my gkrellm... and I can't look at it any more... |
| 21:50.50 | thiago | try some window specific settings for it, so that it stays maximised at all times |
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| 21:51.32 | eric_p | i make a few attempts with the specific settings, but without success |
| 21:51.47 | thiago | are you forcing the geometry? |
| 21:51.58 | eric_p | i will retry and i tell you :) |
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| 21:55.18 | eric_p | thiago: I force the geometry, i force the maximise, i force not to minimise, but it doesn't work |
| 21:55.49 | eric_p | impossible to keep this window open after a click on 'desktop access' |
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| 21:58.36 | Whisky_ | grepper, Got a clue on setting up a boot splash in Debian ? |
| 21:59.45 | grepper | http://bootsplash.de/ |
| 22:00.09 | c-101 | why don't you try splashy ? |
| 22:00.14 | c-101 | (if you are using debian) |
| 22:00.39 | Whisky_ | c-101, It sucks. |
| 22:00.47 | c-101 | why? |
| 22:00.54 | c-101 | worked fine for me |
| 22:01.05 | Whisky_ | :/ |
| 22:01.07 | Whisky_ | really? |
| 22:01.42 | c-101 | yep |
| 22:01.47 | M23 | the menuy editor shows I have a development entry, but it doesn't show on the actual menu. ANything I can do to change this? |
| 22:02.14 | Whisky_ | ok let me get it, guide me then =p |
| 22:02.33 | grepper | M23: you have stuff that goes in it ? |
| 22:02.40 | M23 | yeah |
| 22:03.00 | M23 | alright, I don't... |
| 22:03.10 | M23 | lots of submenus but nothing in them |
| 22:03.29 | ponto | Does kde somehow support mobile profiles? |
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| 22:07.32 | Temet | hi all |
| 22:08.18 | Temet | does someone know if it is possible to hide some pop up information such as "Disc mounted read only bla bla bla" ? |
| 22:08.25 | Temet | i don't like this |
| 22:10.45 | Whisky_ | c-101, http://pastebin.com/325004 |
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| 22:11.44 | Whisky_ | c-101, So its setup. now what ? |
| 22:11.48 | c-101 | Whisky_: well... it works for me.... |
| 22:11.59 | c-101 | you simply isntall it... and it works |
| 22:12.01 | Whisky_ | its setup :/ |
| 22:12.03 | c-101 | (at least for me) |
| 22:12.14 | Whisky_ | errr.....so where do you choose the picture you want for a splash screen ? |
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| 22:13.06 | c-101 | in /etc/splashy or something like that |
| 22:13.13 | c-101 | read the package documentation |
| 22:13.34 | Whisky_ | k |
| 22:14.32 | eric_p | thiago: i solved my problem :) |
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| 22:15.40 | eric_p | thiago: (i think you can speak french) Réglages spécifiques/Astuces/Type de fenêtre/Forcer/Bureau |
| 22:16.12 | ponto | Or is there a way to tell kmail that it should check a given server, only when the computer is in the same subnet? |
| 22:16.14 | eric_p | thank you very much for your help |
| 22:16.21 | AaronCampbell | does anyone know of any software that will record what you are doing on your desktop at the same time as it records audio from a microphone? Something so I could make a demo that shows a user how to do something? |
| 22:18.05 | Temet | hum |
| 22:18.07 | Temet | AaronCampbell |
| 22:18.17 | Temet | yes |
| 22:18.47 | Temet | try x11vnc & vnc2swf |
| 22:19.12 | Temet | but for sound, i'm not sure |
| 22:20.01 | c-101 | you can record video and audio with different programs |
| 22:20.05 | c-101 | and mix them later |
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| 22:21.42 | Temet | yes you can |
| 22:21.48 | Temet | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:21.48 | Temet | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:34.51 | Whisky_ | c-101, Do me a favour, type "splashy boot" in Terminal and tell me what you get |
| 22:35.20 | c-101 | Whisky_: i have no splashy in this box |
| 22:35.28 | Whisky_ | http://pastebin.com/325019 |
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| 22:36.12 | Whisky_ | when i rebooted, it sais "Splashy not running" and something but i did get green messages in verbose mode like "Boot process at 70%" etc. etc. |
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| 22:37.50 | c-101 | Whisky_: do you have a framebuffer ? |
| 22:38.23 | Whisky_ | I have the libdirectfb libs, all of them; includin dev |
| 22:38.48 | c-101 | ups |
| 22:38.52 | c-101 | i just remembered |
| 22:39.05 | c-101 | you need to use a fremabuffer, but in 1024x768 |
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| 22:39.12 | c-101 | vga=791 as a boot parameter |
| 22:39.30 | Whisky_ | im at 1024*768 |
| 22:39.33 | Whisky_ | what should i do ? |
| 22:40.12 | Mirkus | buona sera |
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| 22:41.46 | Whisky_ | c-101, ? |
| 22:41.55 | c-101 | well... |
| 22:41.57 | c-101 | i do not know |
| 22:42.07 | Whisky_ | :/ |
| 22:42.17 | Whisky_ | you just said something about 1024*768 ? |
| 22:43.40 | c-101 | yep |
| 22:43.54 | c-101 | i said that splashy only works for a framebuffer at 1024x768 |
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| 22:48.28 | Whisky_ | duh |
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| 23:08.35 | std0ut | any clue why i don't get any sound from browser applications (eg. flash) and how to tweak this ? |
| 23:09.07 | yanger | is there a tweak for adding the mount/umount to empty folders in /mnt ? |
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| 23:10.18 | Blissex | yanger: what does that mean? |
| 23:10.25 | Blissex | std0ut: yes. |
| 23:11.34 | std0ut | Blissex: man... what ? |
| 23:12.58 | Blissex | std0ut: unfortunately Flash uses the OSS API which does not support sharing/mix the sound device between multiple apps. Or else your system has not loaded the ALSA-OSS compatibility modules. |
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| 23:13.38 | Blissex | std0ut: read with suitable care and dread the OSS and sharing sections of http://tinyurl.com/4ogk2 |
| 23:13.58 | Blissex | std0ut: the app config and troubleshooting sections of the same page contain interesting bits too. |
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| 23:14.35 | std0ut | Blissex: tnx a lot :) |
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| 23:17.00 | std0ut | Blissex: i think it's not a sharing problem.. becaouse i don't hear any sound at all |
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| 23:17.15 | Blissex | std0ut: it is a sharing problem. |
| 23:17.29 | Blissex | std0ut: or the OSS compatibility layer is not loader. |
| 23:17.32 | Blissex | std0ut: or the OSS compatibility layer is not loaded. |
| 23:18.02 | Blissex | std0ut: try all the various steps in the troubleshooting section to check that you got working sound anyhow. |
| 23:18.22 | std0ut | Well, if it would be a sharing problem i'd had problem listening to xmms and flash stuff |
| 23:18.37 | std0ut | or no ? |
| 23:18.50 | Blissex | std0ut: read more carefully those sections... |
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| 23:21.06 | std0ut | Blissex: ok :) |
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| 23:23.20 | Veratien | EEEEEE! |
| 23:24.09 | Veratien | Only just updated to this, and I'm still a whole version behind though... :( |
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