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| 00:10.47 | tsb | cbr: no idea, I guess you didn't prelink everything then? |
| 00:11.04 | cbr | i did |
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| 00:24.30 | tristia | how to know what version kde i use..? |
| 00:25.37 | grepper | help->about->in any kde app |
| 00:26.35 | grepper | or kde-config --version or <and kde app> --version , from terminal |
| 00:27.16 | avrfreak | how to update the kde via apt-get |
| 00:27.26 | avrfreak | the apy-get install kde |
| 00:27.30 | avrfreak | dont work |
| 00:27.38 | grepper | apt-get install kde-core |
| 00:29.30 | tristia | i use 3.32 cersion..!!! |
| 00:29.34 | tristia | how toupdates..? |
| 00:31.51 | Venson | tristia: what distro? |
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| 00:32.18 | tristia | mandrake.. |
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| 00:36.04 | Alethes | StevenR: this is a family channel, man |
| 00:36.07 | Alethes | heh |
| 00:36.33 | Alethes | hehe |
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| 00:43.10 | mobtek | NERF WAR! |
| 00:43.18 | munzir | hi sirs! I just plugged that new invention called usb bluetooth stick ;) in my laptop and my pc |
| 00:44.57 | mobtek | hahah |
| 00:45.15 | Alethes | :( |
| 00:46.26 | mobtek | munzir: congrats :) |
| 00:46.45 | Alethes | (probably for the best, anyway) |
| 00:46.49 | mobtek | man I hate to take my shoes off at the airport going through security |
| 00:46.55 | mobtek | not steel caps either |
| 00:47.03 | mobtek | just the eyelets for the laces |
| 00:47.06 | mobtek | :) |
| 00:47.16 | StevenR | one of the marketing girls and work stamped on my foot and hurt herself |
| 00:47.25 | StevenR | s/and/at |
| 00:47.33 | mobtek | hehe I had some Cherry steel-cap Doc Martins |
| 00:47.41 | mobtek | they kicked it hard ;D |
| 00:47.46 | munzir | mobtek: I installed kdebluetooth and now can see the other pc on my konqueror when I type bluetooth:/ |
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| 00:47.54 | mobtek | munzir: ahh hehe cool |
| 00:48.21 | munzir | mobtek: I can also see localhost to configure my pc |
| 00:48.22 | StevenR | she was wearing these little plimsol things and i have half ankle black leather boots with steal toecaps, etc |
| 00:48.27 | munzir | mobtek: but ;) |
| 00:48.32 | StevenR | *steel |
| 00:48.37 | mobtek | haha |
| 00:48.55 | benJIman | anyone know of a utility to record video of what's seen on the screen ? |
| 00:49.16 | HuntsMan | benJIman: xvidcap |
| 00:49.25 | benJIman | HuntsMan: ta muchly |
| 00:49.47 | munzir | mobtek: when I double click it, I see many services like obex, serial, and double clicking any opens a dialog to open or save as!! |
| 00:50.52 | Themafia | how do i open the kde control panel if I am not currently running kde? |
| 00:50.58 | benJIman | kcontrol |
| 00:51.13 | Themafia | ty |
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| 00:55.00 | munzir | it seems no one here tried bluetooth before? |
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| 01:17.11 | metalhedd | juk (using the gstreamer output) is playing my ogg-vorbis files turbo-fast. never had this problem before. ogg123 plays oggs fine. can anyone help? |
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| 01:29.49 | Static_-X-_ | how do i change the login screen |
| 01:30.10 | Static_-X-_ | i cant find anything about login in the control center in suse |
| 01:31.11 | Venson | Static_-X-_: you won't because that's an OS level setting, not desktop. |
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| 01:31.51 | Venson | Static_-X-_: check /etc/sysconfig/desktop ......if that file's there, cat it. i'm not sure how it works for suse |
| 01:32.14 | Venson | Static_-X-_: wait....what do you want to change about the login screen? the look or the screen itself? |
| 01:32.15 | Quinn_Storm | anyone know why in krdc, in the server browsing display, RDP servers aren't showing up? specifically no servers are, but I don't have any VNC servers on my lan |
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| 01:34.49 | Static_-X-_ | yeah just the look thats all |
| 01:34.56 | Quinn_Storm | is it something I need to enable on my windows box? |
| 01:35.06 | Venson | then you're looking for themes, Static_-X-_ .....are you using kdm or gdm? |
| 01:35.25 | Static_-X-_ | what are they |
| 01:36.57 | Venson | Display Managers |
| 01:38.10 | Static_-X-_ | i was just using this thing in suse called a control center |
| 01:38.40 | Static_-X-_ | its a kde control center |
| 01:39.12 | benJIman | Static_-X-_: yast, or yast modules in kcontrol |
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| 01:39.53 | benJIman | Static_-X-_: system -> /etc/sysconfig editor, -> desktop -> display manager -> DISPLAYMANAGER |
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| 01:42.19 | vortik | hey folks :) I have an interesting issue happening.. when my screensaver goes off.. it seams to do some power management. I have all the power management options turned OFF.. and I just killed acpid, just in case... anyway.. this keeps happening.. any ideas on where I should poke around next? I don't think it is a KDE /only/ issue.. seams to happen in gnome as well. maybe it is an xscreensaver proble? |
| 01:42.57 | vortik | oh, forgot to mention. the only way I can get access to my system again is to cntl-alt-f5, then back to f7 |
| 01:43.03 | Static_-X-_ | its kdm |
| 01:43.13 | benJIman | is that what you wanted? |
| 01:44.26 | benJIman | mmm the new applet adding animation is very shiny |
| 01:44.57 | Quinn_Storm | yes it is |
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| 01:47.18 | benJIman | and ksysguard's new quickfilter is very useful |
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| 01:47.31 | axylfyre | hey all |
| 01:47.43 | axylfyre | can a serious n00b get some help installing? |
| 01:49.24 | axylfyre | please? |
| 01:50.12 | Quinn_Storm | kdebindings is huge...takes forever to build |
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| 01:54.43 | theturtle | hey quick dumb questions, where can I adjust the control of "effects" normally when us tart kde for the first time, it'll ask you if u want better performacne or better looking, using vnc i'd like to slim it down to as slim as possible. |
| 01:54.53 | theturtle | question, rather |
| 01:54.59 | benJIman | kpersonalizer is the app which runs on first start |
| 01:55.41 | benJIman | you might want to use freenx, it's much faster than vnc |
| 01:55.55 | theturtle | freenx :/ |
| 01:56.04 | theturtle | does that work windows<>linux ? |
| 01:56.12 | benJIman | yes |
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| 01:56.46 | axylfyre | i just installed arch on this system, how can i install kde, so i can access the desktop? |
| 01:57.06 | vortik | freenx looks cool, but i don't see a windows server.. or am i missing something? |
| 01:57.15 | theturtle | ok ok, thnx benjiman! |
| 01:57.36 | Venson | axylfyre: you should consult your distro's channel |
| 01:57.39 | benJIman | oh not sure about doing it that way round |
| 01:57.52 | benJIman | you can use windows client to access linux machine certainly |
| 01:58.07 | axylfyre | ok ty ven |
| 01:58.54 | vortik | benJIman: ahhh.. got ya |
| 01:59.24 | theturtle | kpersonalizer - how do i run that , i don't see it as a command anywhere |
| 01:59.42 | benJIman | bw@lcars:~> which kpersonalizer \\ /opt/kde3/bin/kpersonalizer |
| 02:00.15 | theturtle | odd |
| 02:01.42 | theturtle | yeah no such thing on suse 9.3 |
| 02:02.09 | benJIman | it's in kdebase3-extra on suse 9.3 |
| 02:03.00 | crispynix-v6 | http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/dave/archives/2002_09.html#002810 <--- excellent read :) |
| 02:03.01 | theturtle | ic |
| 02:03.20 | theturtle | how'd u know, perhaps will make my searching easier next time |
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| 02:05.29 | apokryphos | why is k3b not in kdemultimedia? |
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| 02:11.18 | theturtle | ermm "cause"? |
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| 02:48.48 | madpenguin8 | what package contains kreadconfig? |
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| 02:49.45 | canllaith | gday ste |
| 02:49.58 | canllaith | bah silly silly enter key |
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| 03:02.59 | barkley | kde sucks cock because you qt sucks cock |
| 03:03.15 | barkley | lsb says qt sucks cock |
| 03:03.32 | barkley | and we hate germans |
| 03:03.37 | barkley | fuck germans |
| 03:04.10 | apokryphos | canllaith: ! |
| 03:05.52 | Speedy2 | barkley: That is an interesting perspective. |
| 03:06.45 | kendrick | aseigo: congrats |
| 03:06.54 | Speedy2 | kendrick: For? |
| 03:07.10 | apokryphos | Speedy2: getting paid to work on KDE by Trolltech |
| 03:07.17 | Speedy2 | Oh, that's very cool |
| 03:07.23 | kendrick | hehe |
| 03:07.25 | kendrick | exactly :) |
| 03:07.25 | barkley | sick germans |
| 03:07.31 | barkley | we hate germans |
| 03:07.34 | Speedy2 | barkley: Who is "we" ? |
| 03:07.59 | barkley | we all hate germans |
| 03:08.03 | apokryphos | barkley: and why would you hate Germans? Racism on any level is pretty meaningless; races, biologically speaking, don't exist in the human race. |
| 03:08.15 | barkley | sick fuckers |
| 03:08.21 | kendrick | not as bad as the japanese |
| 03:08.26 | kendrick | oh wait |
| 03:08.31 | kendrick | are we not talking about porn? |
| 03:08.37 | apokryphos | hehehe |
| 03:08.39 | barkley | damn germans |
| 03:08.46 | barkley | sick assholes |
| 03:08.54 | kendrick | barkley's boring |
| 03:08.57 | kendrick | you're boring |
| 03:08.58 | apokryphos | barkley: does it bother you that your talk is meaningless since you've thrown away reason? |
| 03:08.58 | kendrick | you bore me |
| 03:09.07 | kendrick | i'm bored |
| 03:09.14 | kendrick | i should rewrite my article for tux |
| 03:09.17 | kendrick | my wife didn't even want to TOUCH it |
| 03:09.30 | apokryphos | kendrick: which one did you write? |
| 03:09.47 | kendrick | i'm writing an article on the google toolbar for konqy |
| 03:09.59 | apokryphos | cool |
| 03:10.08 | barkley | fuck kde |
| 03:10.21 | barkley | gnome is international |
| 03:10.26 | apokryphos | barkley: you're just so cool! You know the F word :P |
| 03:10.33 | barkley | fuck those nazi germans |
| 03:10.52 | barkley | we all hate the germans |
| 03:10.56 | kendrick | hrm, any ops? :) |
| 03:11.07 | barkley | slimy fucks |
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| 03:11.13 | apokryphos | kendrick: they don't seem to be around; canllaith was not too long ago... |
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| 03:12.02 | barkley | how come kde is german? |
| 03:12.06 | Speedy2 | It's not |
| 03:12.10 | metaperl | I'm using Debian and I'm getting a lot of warnings like this: "kbuildsycoca: WARNING: '/usr/share/applications/ooo645writer.desktop'" |
| 03:12.12 | barkley | fucking german fucks? |
| 03:12.17 | apokryphos | barkley: how come its official language is American English? |
| 03:12.19 | barkley | suck my american dick |
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| 03:12.40 | apokryphos | barkley: at least research things before you hate them, so you can at least hate them properly |
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| 03:12.57 | barkley | because america owns the fuckingr planet faggot |
| 03:13.08 | barretj | is there anyway to set up dual monitors so that each of the monitors displays a different virtual desktop? |
| 03:13.37 | apokryphos | barkley: sure it does :). Still doesn't explain how you got the idea that kde is German |
| 03:13.51 | barretj | kde is Earthian |
| 03:14.09 | kendrick | earthican |
| 03:14.12 | kendrick | get it right :) |
| 03:14.19 | barretj | lol |
| 03:14.31 | barretj | that sounds too much like american |
| 03:14.43 | barkley | listen faggotsd |
| 03:15.02 | barkley | i love kde |
| 03:15.04 | barretj | so no one knows an answer to my question? |
| 03:15.09 | kendrick | oh wait, i'm married |
| 03:15.34 | barkley | you faggots are fucked on qt GPL |
| 03:15.42 | apokryphos | hahaha |
| 03:15.45 | apokryphos | barkley: /topic |
| 03:15.50 | barretj | arguing on the internet is like competing in the special olympics |
| 03:16.01 | barkley | yes iu said it |
| 03:16.10 | barretj | even if you win, you're still retarted |
| 03:16.11 | barkley | yes i said it |
| 03:16.33 | barretj | anyway, i came here for help with a technical topic |
| 03:16.55 | barretj | if this is an argument-based channel, i guess i'll leave |
| 03:16.59 | barkley | matthias understand faggots |
| 03:17.15 | apokryphos | barretj: it's not; it's the KDE support channel |
| 03:17.19 | barkley | read what he says |
| 03:17.26 | barretj | apokryphos: ok, thats what i thought |
| 03:17.55 | barkley | apokryphos, is a faggot cunt |
| 03:18.07 | apokryphos | barretj: temporarily no ops around to ban :P |
| 03:18.22 | barretj | damn, and i was just about to ask who had the authority to kick/ban |
| 03:18.27 | barkley | ban me |
| 03:18.32 | barretj | where are all the ops? |
| 03:18.40 | apokryphos | barretj: coding :P |
| 03:18.50 | barkley | matthias says gnome has won |
| 03:18.53 | jql | this is freenode. we get lilo to K-Line trolls |
| 03:19.02 | barkley | kde needs to die |
| 03:19.24 | kendrick | dude |
| 03:19.26 | kendrick | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:19.30 | kendrick | it's not hard |
| 03:19.40 | kendrick | :) |
| 03:19.41 | barkley | ubuntu has decided |
| 03:19.43 | barretj | whats the irc command for listing all users on the channel? |
| 03:20.03 | apokryphos | barkley: perhaps you're unfamiliar with the fact that they *pay* people to work on Kubuntu |
| 03:20.21 | apokryphos | barretj: /list |
| 03:20.27 | kendrick | or /who * maybe? |
| 03:20.41 | barretj | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:20.44 | Alethes | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:20.48 | theturtle | try /who |
| 03:20.50 | kendrick | :) |
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| 03:21.19 | Alethes | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:21.21 | barkley | apokryphos, maybe you're aware of the fact that lsb and where linus livs at |
| 03:21.27 | barretj | thanks |
| 03:21.30 | barkley | all proprietry |
| 03:21.42 | barretj | if you dont like kde, don't use it |
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| 03:21.46 | barkley | we love proprietrary |
| 03:22.01 | apokryphos | whoop, ok, do not type /list |
| 03:22.01 | barretj | but dont come in here and make snide comments |
| 03:22.23 | barkley | linus loves proprietary |
| 03:22.29 | barkley | suckers |
| 03:23.42 | barretj | everyone type this now: /ignore barkley |
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| 03:24.51 | Alethes | is he saying anything that makes it worth the effort? |
| 03:24.58 | barretj | no |
| 03:25.18 | barretj | he is obviously 10 years old and is on summer break and has nothing better to do |
| 03:25.38 | Alethes | ah |
| 03:25.48 | Alethes | I saw something about proprietary, but I don't know the rest |
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| 03:26.05 | barretj | yea, i dont understand what he is saying |
| 03:26.11 | barretj | anyway, i have things i need to get done |
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| 03:29.18 | mobtek | hehe kids |
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| 04:23.14 | nico22 | hi... |
| 04:23.15 | nico22 | any body uses giftd + apollon? |
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| 04:31.15 | nico22 | any body uses giftd + apollon? |
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| 04:37.20 | kendhome | is there any tool for kde that opens an archive, runs configure, make and (after prompting for root password), make install? |
| 04:38.20 | canllaith | hrm sorry I didn't see that idiot apokryphos |
| 04:39.44 | kendrick | hahah |
| 04:39.58 | Dhraakellian | "that idiot apokryphos" or "that idiot, apokryphos" |
| 04:44.36 | canllaith | hrm |
| 04:44.44 | canllaith | actually the comma makes it seem more like I mean that apokryphos is the idiot. |
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| 04:46.36 | Alethes | the comma makes it look like you're talking to apokryphos, not about apokryphos |
| 04:47.51 | Alethes | btw, howdy canllaith |
| 04:50.24 | canllaith | Gday |
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| 05:28.39 | SDFH_Linux | is there any debian repos with 3.4.2? |
| 05:29.45 | benJIman | kubuntu does I think |
| 05:31.16 | SDFH_Linux | i dont think they work though with pure debian? |
| 05:34.17 | physos_ | SDFH_Linux: Since "pure" Debian means stable, I doubt anything newer than what they release will work yet. |
| 05:34.35 | physos_ | SDFH_Linux: I know the KDE debian packagers are working hard to change that. |
| 05:35.41 | SDFH_Linux | well i am hoping someone will have unofficial kde 3.4.2 |
| 05:36.45 | physos | SDFH_Linux: You can try #debian-kde or #debian-qt-kde |
| 05:36.59 | SDFH_Linux | ok |
| 05:37.03 | physos | SDFH_Linux: They guys there are more likely to know whats going on. |
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| 05:37.14 | physos | SDFH_Linux: If they are awake. |
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| 05:48.36 | grepper | nice nick, kinda flows off the tongue :P |
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| 06:07.48 | arrummzen | Is there a way to copy into KDE's klipbord from xterm? |
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| 06:09.18 | step | I updated KDE last night to 3.4.2 and now my KMail screams "SASL authentication is not compiled into kio_imp4." |
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| 06:11.03 | step | can any of you help me with this "SASL authentication is not compiled into kio_imap4." problem? |
| 06:12.35 | hector | hi, im having some problems here, uh kde will sometimes crash on startup if i startx as a normal user (it will give me a kernel panic) i have tried removing my .kde and .kderc dirs, and it usually loads fine the first time but the second time it gives me a running a realtime process now (priority 50) and then comes a kernel panic |
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| 06:29.18 | crispynix-v6 | hector: most likely, kde isn't causing the problem. |
| 06:29.30 | crispynix-v6 | hector: could be your kernel (what version?) or something else |
| 06:30.31 | crispynix-v6 | dist and version could be useful too |
| 06:31.06 | hector | ohh sorry |
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| 06:31.33 | hector | its ahh archlinux kde version 3.4.2 |
| 06:32.02 | crispynix-v6 | packaged kernel or compiled yourself? |
| 06:32.12 | crispynix-v6 | hmm, wait |
| 06:32.21 | crispynix-v6 | is arch one of those user-compiled dists? |
| 06:32.24 | crispynix-v6 | (like gentoo) |
| 06:32.24 | hector | compiled it myself, i know its probably the kernel |
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| 06:32.40 | hector | no its binary.. |
| 06:32.48 | crispynix-v6 | ok. what kernel version? |
| 06:33.04 | hector | 2.6.12-ck4 |
| 06:33.19 | crispynix-v6 | tried vanilla 2.6.12 to see if you can reproduce the problem? |
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| 06:34.03 | sangeli | Hi, anybody using digicam package please? |
| 06:34.35 | hector | nope, i will try that but i really think its something in my config rather than my patchset, just wondering if theres any options i shouuld compile (i removed a lot of stuff) but all my hardware seems to be working |
| 06:35.15 | crispynix-v6 | are you using nvidia's proprietary driver too? |
| 06:35.20 | crispynix-v6 | (or ati's) |
| 06:35.23 | hector | nvidias |
| 06:35.40 | crispynix-v6 | could be that doesn't like something in -ck4 |
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| 06:36.15 | hector | well strange thing is other wm dont crash |
| 06:36.23 | hector | well i have just tried xfce4 |
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| 06:36.54 | crispynix-v6 | gnome? kde is a bit more demanding on resources and might utilize some things that other DEs don't |
| 06:37.05 | crispynix-v6 | though if you can't reproduce it with GNOME then I'd wonder |
| 06:37.05 | canllaith | KDE is actually not more demanding on resources. |
| 06:37.30 | crispynix-v6 | o_O |
| 06:37.35 | canllaith | I have 256MB of memory and I'm not into swap yet after 3 days of running KDE on this laptop. |
| 06:37.42 | canllaith | I'm afraid I can't say the same of Gnome, OSX or Windows XP. |
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| 06:38.46 | crispynix-v6 | hector: dunno, but try vanilla 2.6.12 to rule out -ck |
| 06:39.09 | hector | yeah kde rocks. btw i think i found the problem gonna startx to check.. |
| 06:39.13 | hector | crispynix-v6: ill do that |
| 06:39.34 | theturtl_ | having some issues with printing from GIMP, i don't even see the job in Kprinter, anyone have any possible ideas why this would be...seems to work fine from kde apps |
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| 06:42.48 | hector | lol, as you could probably tell it didnt work |
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| 06:43.12 | hector | anyways compiling vanilla 2.6.12.3 now |
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| 06:49.11 | mobtek | theturtl_: gimp print installed/ |
| 06:49.12 | mobtek | ? |
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| 06:57.41 | sangeli | *** Hi, anybody using digicam package please? |
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| 07:05.47 | evreniz | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:06.41 | frerich | 7msg canllaith hi u r hot, a/s/l??? wanna cyber w/ me???? |
| 07:07.20 | canllaith | omg, 16/f/NZ where r u from??? |
| 07:07.51 | frerich | 19/m/DE, tis cooool NZ r0cks! u got a bf??? |
| 07:08.29 | canllaith | um no, do u have a gf? |
| 07:08.35 | canllaith | r u hot? |
| 07:08.44 | afields | why not involve telepathy? |
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| 07:09.22 | frerich | i am hot yeah!!!11 |
| 07:09.29 | afields | how good is your spiritual stack -- and what ports are you firewalling? |
| 07:09.41 | frerich | i go for to gym!!1 |
| 07:09.50 | canllaith | I SNEAK PAST TO BUN |
| 07:09.55 | canllaith | sorry. Wrong bad IRC joke. |
| 07:10.14 | canllaith | that's so kool, i bet ur really hot. Wanna cyber wif me?? |
| 07:11.27 | frerich | ok sure so i'm like pitt brad and all nekkid and star rubbing mustard all over u!!1 |
| 07:11.38 | frerich | ofmg loooololol i meant jelly of cuz hahaha XD |
| 07:12.06 | afields | canllaith, frerich: did you know that this is actually an intellectually valid activity |
| 07:12.23 | afields | try doing it w/o IRC though |
| 07:12.30 | afields | and see how far you get |
| 07:12.42 | canllaith | frerich: I can't continue without falling off my chair laughing =) how are you? |
| 07:12.51 | frerich | heh |
| 07:12.58 | canllaith | afields: eheh, I prolly shouldn't admit this but we're not teen idiots. We're KDE developers. |
| 07:13.03 | aseigo | oh wait. you two were joking. damn. |
| 07:13.06 | canllaith | I know sometimes it's easy to confuse the too. |
| 07:13.18 | canllaith | aseigo: baby, if you want to be in on the party I'd be cool with that. BYO lube. |
| 07:13.22 | canllaith | s/too/two/ |
| 07:13.24 | frerich | I knew rubbing mustard all over somebody would get aseigo attracted. |
| 07:13.27 | canllaith | LOL |
| 07:13.33 | aseigo | mmm.. mustards |
| 07:13.54 | hector | shouldnt you guys be like developing and stuff |
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| 07:14.00 | hector | jk |
| 07:14.04 | aseigo | hector: it's 01:00 here. i'm done for the day =P |
| 07:14.24 | aseigo | the boy is asleep, no guests, it's quiet. like old times! |
| 07:14.28 | frerich | it;s 9:15 here and I'm not yet up to speed (and waiting for some other people to come online) |
| 07:14.30 | afields | why doesn't someone develop my idea for dialog handling |
| 07:14.54 | afields | might require some qt hacking |
| 07:15.06 | physos | afields: uhm, because you are not doing it? |
| 07:15.14 | frerich | canllaith: btw, bfinn was exactly who I was thinking of when I wrote 'for to' |
| 07:15.40 | afields | right, because I'm not currently doing it, I need a concrete to take the abstract and run with it |
| 07:15.54 | frerich | aseigo: this reminds me, I just wondered: when you're sitting on your chair at your desk, do your feet dangle in the air? :) |
| 07:15.57 | crispynix-v6 | afields: argh, I keep seeing your name and thinking asuffield ;o |
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| 07:16.24 | aseigo | frerich: yes. why? |
| 07:17.02 | aseigo | afields: be the concrete.</motivational speaker> |
| 07:17.22 | frerich | aseigo: I just thought the image of a little furious guy who's sitting at his desk, feet dangling in the air, and hammering angy email into his computer is kinda funny. |
| 07:17.28 | canllaith | frerich: hahaha really? Suhweet :)) |
| 07:17.38 | canllaith | (the bfinn reference) |
| 07:17.39 | afields | aseigo: expedite concretion request |
| 07:17.39 | aseigo | frerich: reality is often funny ;) |
| 07:18.04 | afields | specialization select |
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| 07:19.53 | afields | anyway: anyone wants to try some telepathy w/ me, some time later, let me know |
| 07:20.08 | afields | Not cyber, unless I'm really in the mood |
| 07:20.33 | canllaith | I reserve that for frerich and his magnificent love rod. |
| 07:20.37 | frerich | afields: I guess you sense an overwhelming, surrounding and huge feeling of 'No way!' now |
| 07:20.50 | canllaith | Hrm, frerich's 'bits' haven't been kde-docs topic for a long time |
| 07:20.55 | canllaith | we've missed you frerich =) |
| 07:21.04 | afields | frerich: I haven't been in this Q-net long enough |
| 07:21.09 | afields | sorry I'm not that good ;) |
| 07:21.34 | frerich | Oh yes, don't get me started about my love rod - leave that to the ladies. |
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| 07:22.10 | afields | frerich: do you speak w/ the spirits? |
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| 07:23.17 | frerich | afields: I can't tell since I don't know how they communicate, so I cannot tell what I have to do t ocommunicate |
| 07:23.38 | frerich | afields: but if communicating with them means I have to rub mustard over canllaith then no, I don't |
| 07:23.56 | afields | frerich: just ask God, it doesn't involve any mustard unless you want it to |
| 07:24.38 | frerich | afields: Does it involve mustard if I don't want god not to want me rubbing it over somebody else than canllaith ? |
| 07:25.14 | afields | frerich: I sense an overwhelming desire in you to confuse me ;) |
| 07:25.39 | frerich | afields: Indeed, telepathy works, q.e.d. |
| 07:26.00 | afields | frerich: it's proven, I'm not actually crazy |
| 07:26.50 | afields | Actually on a more on topic thing: I attended DDC in Ottawa |
| 07:28.15 | afields | that was fun, let me try to remember what conclusion I came to.. oh yes, KDE needs some sort of a way to create spaces of related windows in 2D docks or something |
| 07:29.32 | afields | The idea is to dock windows into a workspace in a minimized fashion -- increase utility of kwin's desktops I believe |
| 07:29.58 | afields | you could then store workspaces while actually closing the windows to save memory |
| 07:30.13 | afields | so that your overloaded session doesn't start thrashing the disk |
| 07:31.33 | frerich | Hmm the reason why my enthusiasm for that is rather limited is that I virtually never have more than six or seven windows open. And I don't use multiple desktops either. |
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| 07:31.49 | afields | you are an efficient user |
| 07:31.51 | frerich | I use tabs a lot. In ksirc. In Konsole. in Konqueror. |
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| 07:32.05 | afields | right, even tabs have thier issues between sessions still |
| 07:32.12 | frerich | I'm not efficient, I'm multitasking-challenged. |
| 07:33.17 | afields | frerich: statements like the above apear in Wilfred Hodges Logic: a book on prepositional and formal logics where english phrases are parsed and put into truth tables |
| 07:33.46 | frerich | afields: What statement do you mean? |
| 07:33.53 | afields | the one about mustard |
| 07:34.02 | afields | I knew you where going to ask that ;) |
| 07:34.04 | frerich | afields: Oh, that's german humor. |
| 07:34.26 | benJIman | it would be nice to be able to tab or dock windows together so apps which have lots of windows like the gimp can be joined together |
| 07:34.41 | frerich | afields: but I agree that 'sample of preprositional and formal logic which can be parsed and put into a truth table' sounds more impressing. |
| 07:34.44 | benJIman | and brought to front/minimised etc all as one |
| 07:34.49 | afields | benJIman: E16 has that, could it be put into kwin |
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| 07:39.32 | hector | bte crispynix-v6 it was the ck patches a vanilla kernel is working right now.. thanks |
| 07:39.36 | hector | btw* |
| 07:41.20 | crispynix-v6 | np :) |
| 07:42.16 | afields | does it involve action if frerich !want god !want frerich->apply($action,compl(/who #kde,{canllaith})); // The premise of the question is metaphysical in nature given that you want God to want something for you, God will only want something for you if it is rational or will lead to a higher rationality |
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| 07:42.43 | afields | So it depends on if the outcome derives a higher rationality |
| 07:42.58 | afields | Pleasure itself is not enough |
| 07:43.19 | afields | unless pleasure leads to something which brings higher order in this specific case |
| 07:44.34 | afields | pleasure of open source software is a higher order |
| 07:44.45 | afields | so we're all roughly on the right track to holiness |
| 07:45.11 | crispynix-v6 | o_O |
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| 07:46.08 | afields | ;) I hope this has given everyone in .eu something to think about while sipping their coffee |
| 07:46.24 | afields | or tea as the case may be |
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| 07:47.13 | afields | but contrary to this statement |
| 07:47.22 | afields | there is the concept of the infinite love |
| 07:47.37 | crispynix-v6 | I subscribe to the notion that the universe was created and it made a lot of people very angry. |
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| 07:48.01 | afields | people are multidimensional in nature, any anger is of a lower order |
| 07:48.22 | crispynix-v6 | Resistance is futile, though. |
| 07:48.54 | afields | the infinite love could be called an irrational love for rationality or a rational love for irrationality depending on which path you choose |
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| 07:50.06 | afields | crispynix-v6: resistance against what? |
| 07:50.22 | crispynix-v6 | afields: assimilation by the Borg. |
| 07:50.38 | scrooge | rofl |
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| 07:51.13 | afields | crispynix-v6: you could become the borg and assimilate instead |
| 07:51.48 | crispynix-v6 | afields: Unacceptable. |
| 07:52.07 | afields | crispynix-v6: well I agree. But what did you have in mind then? |
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| 07:52.45 | afields | I can tell you about the sun, persistance, the void, oblivion |
| 07:53.03 | crispynix-v6 | afields: Bulldoze the Earth to make way for an intergalactic superhighway, thereby eliminating the possibility that the Borg myth would be propagated into the universe. |
| 07:53.18 | afields | crispynix-v6: there are higher solutions |
| 07:53.26 | crispynix-v6 | afields: Negative. |
| 07:53.41 | afields | educate space faring races against the evil assimilation |
| 07:54.30 | crispynix-v6 | hmm |
| 07:54.43 | crispynix-v6 | they'd have different ideas of "evil" though |
| 07:54.53 | afields | perhaps, but there are commonalities |
| 07:55.01 | afields | perhaps we could learn from them |
| 07:55.42 | crispynix-v6 | There aren't any commonalities; the Intelligent Designer made sure of that. |
| 07:55.46 | afields | crispynix-v6: God wants you to have all the answers |
| 07:55.56 | crispynix-v6 | afields: I know. |
| 07:56.07 | crispynix-v6 | Thus, 42. |
| 07:56.45 | afields | so then any divergance must by definition be brought to a higher convergance |
| 07:57.21 | crispynix-v6 | Would that include arbitration for the purpose of agreeing on spelling? |
| 07:57.45 | afields | yes, but I sense this is an issue that outscopes a single language |
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| 07:58.14 | crispynix-v6 | Nothing is beyond the scope of a good rifle. |
| 07:58.56 | grepper | ick, rationality |
| 07:59.11 | afields | grepper: yes sorry I felt the need to reset the Q-bias |
| 07:59.17 | afields | but it's probably gone too far |
| 07:59.20 | afields | continue arcing |
| 07:59.32 | grepper | sounds very dry :) |
| 08:00.22 | afields | grepper: that feeling might be there as a force for the "getting software done" |
| 08:00.35 | afields | which is why I'm here actually, so I'll shutup |
| 08:01.11 | crispynix-v6 | weird |
| 08:02.20 | afields | creation is {Q,R}-composite -- you are all pretty creative too, but infinite creation is a balance between Q,R forces |
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| 08:08.04 | magnus__ | Hi.. I'm getting some errors while compiling KDE 3.4.2 with konstruct.. during make inside kdebase it says: 'mount_xdr.c:255: error: invalid lvalue in increment'.. any clues how to fix it? |
| 08:08.30 | magnus__ | and it's not only on line 255.. its other lines as well |
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| 08:24.17 | katembong | hi guys |
| 08:24.27 | katembong | has anyone use kompose here on openbsd ? |
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| 08:26.10 | StarScream | kompose is pretty slow, even with an nvidia card |
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| 08:37.14 | physos | why did it take me so long to do this? alias kcp='kfmclient copy' |
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| 08:39.53 | notbadname1 | Hello Everybody |
| 08:39.55 | notbadname1 | Howdy |
| 08:40.54 | notbadname1 | is there any way in kopete to automatically answer to nickserv similar to gaim? |
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| 09:00.52 | notbadname | Hello Everybody |
| 09:00.57 | notbadname | your idea |
| 09:01.03 | notbadname | worked for me |
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| 09:01.24 | notbadname | kopete auto joins now |
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| 09:03.09 | pinotree | hello =) |
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| 09:14.28 | darthpwnt | hey |
| 09:14.34 | darthpwnt | wats the kde app |
| 09:14.43 | darthpwnt | for usb devices to auto mount them and such? |
| 09:14.59 | insanekane | darthpwnt: media:/ |
| 09:15.11 | darthpwnt | :O |
| 09:15.15 | darthpwnt | nah i mean like |
| 09:15.19 | darthpwnt | im getting a popup |
| 09:15.30 | darthpwnt | that says "what do u wanna do" |
| 09:15.36 | darthpwnt | for unmounted filesystem device |
| 09:15.54 | darthpwnt | but it only pops that up when i mount and then umount the usb device -_- |
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| 10:11.37 | df00z | hey. argh. Does anyone know if konqueror 3.4.1 had some locking up issues? Well, it's not so much locking up..as...I really don't know what's going on. With low CPU usage, it rarely happens, but konqueror will just sit there, totally unresponsive. Sometimes KDE itself will be unresponsive. I don't see any CPU usage spikes...and it doesn't happen with firefox |
| 10:11.47 | df00z | higher CPU usage it happens constantly |
| 10:11.51 | df00z | konqueror will just sit there |
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| 10:14.39 | df00z | it definatly seems to be related to textboxes |
| 10:14.55 | df00z | when a textbox is being loaded konqueror freezes for like a second |
| 10:15.02 | df00z | like google.com |
| 10:15.18 | df00z | itl show google, web images groups etc. then freeze, then the textbox will appear then the rest of the site |
| 10:16.55 | df00z | ill try updating kde to see if it goes away |
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| 10:35.59 | nxv_ | hi, i use kde keyboadlayout switch, but when ever i activate it, it enables dead keys. always have to press space to display 4 example ' |
| 10:36.49 | Quinn_Storm | nxv_: use the en_US layout instead of the en layout... |
| 10:37.01 | nxv_ | that slows down my typing. can i change that behavior? already have nodead keys xkbvariant option in xorg.conf. but as soon as i start the keyboardlayout switch it doesnt work |
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| 10:38.09 | nxv_ | Quinn_Storm: thx 4 ur help |
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| 10:38.17 | nxv_ | it almost drove me mad |
| 10:38.33 | Quinn_Storm | yeah I had that problem for a while too |
| 10:39.20 | Quinn_Storm | I wanted to use it b/c I'm trying to learn hebrew and wanted to be able to type things like קוין |
| 10:40.04 | aureus | hi |
| 10:40.14 | aureus | i have a problem with the kde control center |
| 10:40.17 | aureus | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:40.23 | aureus | what can i do? i have archlinux |
| 10:41.14 | nxv_ | Quinn_Storm: what confused me the most was that kde seems to ignore any setting done in the xconfig |
| 10:41.24 | nxv_ | Quinn_Storm: did u get it done? |
| 10:41.29 | Quinn_Storm | nxv_: it overrides them...yeah |
| 10:42.01 | aureus | nobody who can help me? |
| 10:42.11 | Quinn_Storm | aureus: try #archlinux? |
| 10:42.21 | nxv_ | are there plans for kde/qt to switch to vector graphics like gnome is going to do with cairo? |
| 10:42.49 | Quinn_Storm | nxv_: essentially it already is, and with qt4 there should be cairo/glitz/whatever support |
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| 10:44.51 | aureus | Quinn_Storm: yes i will try.. |
| 10:50.17 | nxv_ | Quinn_Storm: will the app developer decide which is choosen or will the user be able to switch it like installing themes? |
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| 11:24.54 | arrummzen | What security risks are associated with kde theme-manager themes/ |
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| 11:25.55 | PhilRod | arrummzen: well, apart from the fact that you might be installing something from a source you don't "trust", I don't know of any. Were you thinking of something in particular? |
| 11:27.05 | arrummzen | PhilRod, Do they include any kind of executable scripts or anything (other than jpgs and a few conf files)? |
| 11:27.22 | PhilRod | don't think so, though I'm not really sure |
| 11:33.44 | Sho|efh | Err, can I somehow tell KDE Desktop Sharing to auto-accept incoming connections if I'm root on the machine via ssh? |
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| 11:42.43 | c-101 | Hi |
| 11:43.21 | PhilRod | hi c-101 |
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| 11:50.13 | PhilRod | so does PhilRod |
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| 11:52.34 | c_o_b | i wonder if anyone noticed, that since the last kde-update some days ago (3.4.2, Build Date: Mo 25 Jul 2005 17:31:10 CEST) all windows are shown in the application chooser (ALT-TAB) - also things like xmms-playlist or gkrellm that should not be shown there... |
| 11:53.14 | c_o_b | is that meant to be a bug or a feature? |
| 11:53.22 | c_o_b | at least i dislike it... |
| 11:54.12 | c-101 | i am still at 3.4.1 so... |
| 11:54.29 | PhilRod | I noticed that, and don't like it - I fiddled around with the window type of gkrellm (using kstart) and could only find one type that excluded it from the Alt+Tab list |
| 11:54.36 | c_o_b | there everything was still fine... |
| 11:54.40 | PhilRod | but that made it act weird in other ways |
| 11:54.45 | c_o_b | hm |
| 11:54.49 | PhilRod | perhaps there's a config option - /me looks |
| 11:55.18 | c_o_b | thanks.. |
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| 11:58.37 | PhilRod | aha, I've got rid of it |
| 11:58.51 | c_o_b | how? |
| 11:58.56 | PhilRod | needed to fiddle some advanced settings |
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| 11:59.41 | PhilRod | in control center -> desktop -> windw-specific settings, add "new" and then "detect" in the dialog that appears. Click on the window that you want to change (eg, gkrellm) |
| 12:00.16 | PhilRod | in the "workarounds" tab, change "window type" to "utility window" |
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| 12:04.07 | bartden | hi, i keep getting problems with artsd |
| 12:04.23 | PhilRod | bartden: what problems? |
| 12:04.35 | PhilRod | c_o_b: does that work for you? |
| 12:04.49 | bartden | when i'm in kde i can use xmms, but when i open for example kaboodle and open a mp3 it just crashes |
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| 12:05.07 | c_o_b | hm - trying it with xmms-playlist window - not working yet... |
| 12:05.27 | bartden | artsd just crashed then |
| 12:05.28 | ods15 | ok, i got a stupid question - who is in charge of icons in KDE? any chance i can make a special request for an icon? cause the kde icons are very pretty... |
| 12:05.48 | c_o_b | PhilRod: but first - thanks for the hint - I'll keep trying |
| 12:06.37 | lauri | ods15: you can ask for icons for a KDE app at kde-artists.org |
| 12:06.46 | ods15 | hmm |
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| 12:08.29 | PhilRod | ods15: if an icon is missing, it may be a bug. You can request icons on kde-artists.org in the "kollaboration forum" |
| 12:08.49 | ods15 | PhilRod: actually, i want to put in a special request, for myself |
| 12:08.53 | PhilRod | c_o_b: there's an option somewhere else for "hide utility windows" - let me find it |
| 12:09.00 | c_o_b | PhilRod: interesting - it works with gkrellm.. but not with the xmms-playlist |
| 12:10.07 | PhilRod | c_o_b: perhaps you need a slightly different setting for "use whole window" or whatever it asks when you click on the window |
| 12:12.39 | c_o_b | PhilRod: now it's gone - but it took the main window with it *G* |
| 12:13.58 | c_o_b | PhilRod: but it's ok for xmms since I control it with the media-keys of the notebook.. |
| 12:14.11 | c_o_b | PhilRod: thanks.. |
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| 12:15.15 | PhilRod | np |
| 12:15.26 | bartden | hi, i keep getting problems with artsd |
| 12:15.31 | bartden | when i'm in kde i can use xmms, but when i open for example kaboodle and open a mp3 it just crashes |
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| 12:15.47 | bartden | im on freebsd |
| 12:16.10 | PhilRod | bartden: use vchans as suggested on freebsd.kde.org |
| 12:16.26 | bartden | hmm , k |
| 12:16.44 | lauri | http://freebsd.kde.org/faq.php#q9 |
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| 12:18.36 | PhilRod | bartden: do other kde apps (juk, amarok, noatun) crash on playing an mp3? an ogg? |
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| 12:19.47 | bartden | yup noatun crashes to |
| 12:21.26 | bartden | PhilRod: in the faq the say , tell arts to use dsp0.0 in Control center, but where can i change that, in the sound system there aint no option on choosing what to use, at the hardware tab i can change it for example to oss but no arts in that list |
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| 12:21.46 | PhilRod | try "artsplay /path/to/some/file" where somefile is an mp3, an ogg, a wav file |
| 12:22.09 | PhilRod | hardware tab "override device location" |
| 12:23.01 | bartden | ah k |
| 12:26.53 | bartden | i have changed it to /dev/dsp0.3 but it still crashes |
| 12:27.16 | bartden | i have selected auto detect for the hardware |
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| 12:31.13 | PhilRod | what about artsplay? |
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| 12:36.13 | monkeyiq | hi, sorry for newbie kde question, is there an easy way to get at the list of clipboard history from klipper from another program? |
| 12:36.54 | bartden | PhilRod: i launch artsd like this, artsd -D /dev/dsp0.3 , then i do artsplay mp3file, then artsd seems to crash and output this error Fatal error 'Spinlock called when not threaded.' at line 87 in file /usr/src/lib/libpthread/thread/thr_spinlock.c (errno = 2) |
| 12:36.54 | bartden | Abort trap (core dumped) |
| 12:37.55 | PhilRod | oh, that's an easy one - you've got mixed threading libraries - google for that error message and you'll find solutions |
| 12:38.03 | PhilRod | (it's freebsd specific) |
| 12:38.35 | bartden | ah k |
| 12:38.39 | bartden | thx |
| 12:38.49 | monkeyiq | I was hopeing that klipper's functionality was in a lib but it appears to not be the case :/ |
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| 12:40.25 | PhilRod | monkeyiq: dcop |
| 12:40.30 | PhilRod | ~dcoptut |
| 12:40.30 | apt | [dcoptut] http://www.linux-magazine.com/issue/36/KDE_Scripting_DCOP.pdf |
| 12:40.38 | PhilRod | there's a little dcop tutorial |
| 12:40.50 | PhilRod | or see the KDE user guide, section "scripting the desktop" |
| 12:40.51 | monkeyiq | PhilRod: thanks :) I'll have a read. |
| 12:40.52 | PhilRod | ~ug |
| 12:40.52 | apt | it has been said that ug is http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/userguide/ |
| 12:41.30 | monkeyiq | I'm mostly interested in a low level interface to klipper, as I'm planning on adding support for mounting it. |
| 12:42.07 | monkeyiq | so dcop should work well for me. I was just unsure if it was exporting itself as a dcop item from redaing its code. |
| 12:42.10 | PhilRod | monkeyiq: take a look at the handbook - it has contact details for the maintinater |
| 12:42.13 | PhilRod | maintainer* |
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| 13:26.12 | onlinebacon | hi, atm i have gnome and kde installed, but gnome as my default, how do i change it to kde as my default, i am running slack 10.1 |
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| 13:27.35 | bismark | hello |
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| 13:29.22 | onlinebacon | hi |
| 13:29.40 | onlinebacon | do you know how to change kde to my default WM? |
| 13:29.43 | grepper | xwmconfig ? |
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| 13:33.15 | bismark | i have a problem with kde terminal, when i am runnig mc or aptitude mc and aptitude are seen very bad |
| 13:35.04 | bismark | i installed xfce before kde and terminal works perfectly |
| 13:35.16 | bismark | someone can help me? |
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| 13:36.54 | drac | Is there other graphical MSN clients than Kopete (and Gaim, AMSN) available for KDE, possibly QT based? |
| 13:37.14 | Aji-Dahaka | likely |
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| 13:41.54 | magnus__ | Hi.. I'm getting some errors while compiling KDE 3.4.2 with konstruct.. during make inside kdebase it says: 'mount_xdr.c:255: error: invalid lvalue in increment'.. any clues how to fix it? It's not only that line.. it's on other lines as well :> |
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| 13:44.35 | sxe | hi |
| 13:45.27 | magnus__ | Or; how can I tell konstruct to compile KDE with GCC 3.3? |
| 13:45.32 | magnus__ | Debian uses 4.0 |
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| 13:58.12 | bartden | hi, i have this annoying bar in my upper left corner, witch tells me what i'm doing, for example The kde Window Manager: Active |
| 13:58.19 | bartden | how can i disable this ? |
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| 14:01.00 | cSezoL | When will kde 4 come out? |
| 14:01.18 | magnus__ | 23. february 2006 at 19:00 CET |
| 14:02.05 | cSezoL | thats sure ? :) |
| 14:02.13 | magnus__ | nah, I guess noone knows :) |
| 14:02.41 | cSezoL | but.. can we hope itll come in 2005 ? |
| 14:02.47 | magnus__ | nope :) |
| 14:03.14 | magnus__ | Doubt it.. Q2-Q3 2006 is my guess |
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| 14:08.06 | bartden | are there screenshots available of kde 4 |
| 14:08.42 | magnus__ | probably some.. but it isn't much of a looker yet :p |
| 14:08.54 | bartden | :) |
| 14:08.59 | magnus__ | Just KDE ported to QT4 |
| 14:09.28 | Worf | you can't really get the feeling from a screenshot... |
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| 14:27.01 | rindolf | Hi! I'm using KDE 3.3.x on Mandriva 2005 LE. How do I configure konqueror so Ctrl+Home will go to the top of the page instead of displaying the home folder? |
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| 14:31.03 | PhilRod | rindolf: settings -> configure shortcuts in konq |
| 14:31.18 | PhilRod | though you might not be able to have Ctrl+Home go to top of page |
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| 14:34.40 | rindolf | PhilRod: OK. I disabled Ctrl+Home altogether for now. |
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| 14:37.14 | rindolf | PhilRod: there doesn't seem to be a "Go to the top of the page" action. Time to write a patch? |
| 14:37.18 | rindolf | ;-) |
| 14:37.26 | rindolf | I already wrote one patch for kwin. |
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| 14:37.50 | rindolf | I killed him. |
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| 14:44.46 | bartden | hi, i have this annoying bar in my upper left corner, witch tells me what i'm doing, for example The kde Window Manager: Active |
| 14:44.48 | bartden | how can i disable this ? |
| 14:45.20 | c-101 | ? |
| 14:45.31 | c-101 | Can you take a screenshot ? |
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| 14:53.58 | bartden | c-101: how do i do that |
| 14:54.19 | c-101 | for example with ksnapshot |
| 14:57.42 | bartden | c-101: can i dcc send you ? |
| 14:57.47 | bartden | its a png file |
| 14:57.50 | c-101 | yep |
| 14:58.13 | bartden | can you accept |
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| 15:00.13 | c-101 | uhm |
| 15:00.14 | c-101 | sorry |
| 15:00.15 | c-101 | resend |
| 15:01.29 | bartden | c-101: i have pm you the link |
| 15:01.46 | bartden | its in the upper left corner |
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| 15:02.05 | c-101 | mmm |
| 15:02.11 | c-101 | i have never seen such a thing |
| 15:02.20 | bartden | :) |
| 15:02.21 | c-101 | but probably you can configure it in the notifications preference menu |
| 15:02.33 | bartden | is it in kcontrolcenter ? |
| 15:02.56 | c-101 | yes, i think so |
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| 15:04.23 | nsar | hi |
| 15:04.24 | Eno_ | i'm looking at Keyboard Layout in kcontrol, and i'm wondering if there is an easy way to swap escape and caps lock |
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| 15:04.48 | nsar | the qt version 4.0 desktop is compatible to build kde 4.2.2? |
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| 15:07.19 | PieD | nsar: KDE 4.2.2 ? |
| 15:07.21 | PieD | wouaw |
| 15:07.27 | lippel | nsar: kde 4.2.2? where have you found that? :) |
| 15:07.28 | PieD | can you give us your time machine ? |
| 15:07.30 | lippel | time travel? |
| 15:07.49 | PieD | lippel: yes :) |
| 15:07.56 | mobtek | Dr Who uses KDE? |
| 15:08.02 | nsar | sorry mistake :) |
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| 15:08.23 | mobtek | 3.2.2? |
| 15:08.26 | nsar | 3.4.2 syntax mistake |
| 15:08.38 | lippel | mobtek: maybe he knows the doc from back to future |
| 15:08.46 | nsar | lol |
| 15:08.54 | lippel | nsar: no, you need qt3 for that |
| 15:09.09 | nsar | the desktop is incompatible then |
| 15:09.10 | c-101 | does the svn version of kdelibs compile finally against QT4 ? |
| 15:09.14 | pinotree | hello |
| 15:09.15 | mobtek | lippel: heheh I <3 bttf |
| 15:09.36 | nsar | whenever i go to the site of qt i got confused |
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| 15:10.07 | nsar | alright qt 3 thank you |
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| 15:11.37 | nsar | sorry my time machine is strictly personal, if i give it, it will have serious consicounces to the history (too much star trek harm) :) |
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| 15:19.24 | lippel | nsar: yeah, and do not buy sports almanacs in the future |
| 15:19.30 | lippel | we know the consequences |
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| 15:19.50 | lippel | nsar: although a KDE copy from 2010 would be nice. |
| 15:20.05 | c-101 | no! that would rip apart the space-time tissue !!! |
| 15:20.07 | lippel | whether the universe explodes or not, who cares |
| 15:20.48 | lippel | c-101: tss, who needs space-time when he has KDE 5.1 |
| 15:20.58 | c-101 | yeah... that's a good point |
| 15:21.44 | derelm | can someone tell me in what aspect konquerors programs:/ differs to applications:/ ? |
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| 15:26.07 | morci | hi |
| 15:26.21 | lilalinux | is there a picture viewer like gqview for kde that shows all pictures "fit to window size"? |
| 15:26.38 | morci | can konqueror preview *.wmv videos? |
| 15:28.27 | scroogie_ | morci: icon preview or what? |
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| 15:29.45 | morci | scroogie_: I can preview avi's , but not wmv files |
| 15:30.07 | morci | I mean see the first frame of the video |
| 15:30.25 | scroogie_ | But you can play wmv files regularly? |
| 15:30.30 | morci | yes |
| 15:31.13 | bobuse | lilalinux: kview :/ |
| 15:32.19 | scroogie_ | kuickshow does that too |
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| 15:33.56 | paines | hi |
| 15:33.59 | bobuse | scroogie_: No really ... kuickshow doesn't zoom in pictures more than 1:1 |
| 15:34.35 | bobuse | such as showFoto I think (used by digikam) |
| 15:34.45 | Euphi | How can I tell "artsd" which alsa device it should use? |
| 15:34.52 | scroogie_ | there is an option "Scale images to screen size" |
| 15:35.08 | paines | i am writing an kde which should resize itself to 80% windowed of the screen resolution. any idea how to find out the screen resolution ? is the an qt/kde function / method which tells me that ? |
| 15:35.19 | Euphi | It seems that alsa support is still really bad in KDE :( |
| 15:35.20 | paines | the=their |
| 15:35.55 | xpato | hi, how can i defin a new keyboard map ? |
| 15:36.11 | scroogie_ | Euphi: KControl (Control Center) -> Sound & Multimedia -> Sound System -> Hardware |
| 15:36.33 | bobuse | lilalinux: Gwenview does it, with a behaviour similar to gkview |
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| 15:37.13 | vblanton | canllaith: are you around? I posted a message at #plasma for you about my interest in documentation. |
| 15:37.18 | bobuse | paines: look at a dcop call |
| 15:37.25 | scroogie_ | bobuse: Kuickshow does it if you tell it too iirc |
| 15:37.48 | bobuse | scroogie_: How please ? |
| 15:38.30 | bobuse | scroogie_: Ooops sorry I found it |
| 15:39.45 | lilalinux | i didn't find an option in kuickshow for that |
| 15:39.48 | Euphi | scroogie_, its not possible to enter the alsa devices there |
| 15:39.51 | scroogie_ | lilalinux: You have to read. |
| 15:39.53 | scroogie_ | :) |
| 15:39.57 | Euphi | scroogie_, (Kde 3.4.1) |
| 15:40.00 | bobuse | scroogie_: thx I've learn a new tips ^^ |
| 15:40.05 | scroogie_ | lilalinux: "Scale images to screen size" |
| 15:40.43 | bobuse | lilalinux: right click -> Maximise (Maximiser) in french |
| 15:41.31 | scroogie_ | Euphi: Oh, Im sorry then. |
| 15:41.35 | bobuse | on KDE 3.4.2 |
| 15:42.07 | lilalinux | hm, strange must have been blind |
| 15:42.09 | lilalinux | :/ |
| 15:42.49 | lilalinux | however I have xinerama with mixed 1280x1024 and 2*1600x1200 |
| 15:43.02 | lilalinux | and maximizing on the small screen maximizes to 1600 :( |
| 15:43.14 | bobuse | lilalinux: what is your KDE/kuickshow version |
| 15:43.14 | Euphi | scroogie_, its only possible to enter a device file, but alsa has no devices. |
| 15:44.14 | scroogie_ | Euphi: Maybe its possible to give it as "other custom option"? |
| 15:44.39 | lilalinux | well, i have 3.4.1 kde |
| 15:45.00 | bobuse | lilalinux: Uh strange config. I don't like multi-head with different resolutions |
| 15:45.25 | lilalinux | neither do I, but the tft is too small and I don't want a 3rd crt :) |
| 15:45.34 | bobuse | It brings too many surprises |
| 15:46.06 | Euphi | scroogie_, well, maybe, but.. artsd seems to not support it. At least it is not documented. |
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| 15:47.19 | aureus | hi :)( |
| 15:47.19 | bobuse | lilalinux: it works with nvidia twinview :-P |
| 15:47.35 | aureus | i've some problems with my fonts |
| 15:47.36 | PhilRod | vblanton: if canllaith's not around, you're welcome in #kde-docs to talk about documentation |
| 15:47.38 | bobuse | hi aureus |
| 15:47.45 | aureus | they are very ugly (tahoma) |
| 15:47.50 | bobuse | bye all ;-) |
| 15:47.55 | aureus | bye bobuse |
| 15:48.10 | aureus | what can i do? |
| 15:48.35 | aureus | i have a screenshot too :) |
| 15:48.45 | aureus | http://www.piccube.de/uploads/PicCube_61f409a649.png here |
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| 15:49.00 | aureus | i think they are very very ugly |
| 15:49.43 | aureus | my distro is archlinux |
| 15:49.49 | PhilRod | aureus: switching on anti-aliasing will help |
| 15:49.58 | scroogie_ | choose other fonts? turn on anti-aliasing? turn on sub-pixel hinting? |
| 15:50.01 | PhilRod | other than that, it's just a case of choosing decent fonts |
| 15:50.33 | aureus | PhilRod, no than they are.... blurred? is that the right word? |
| 15:51.02 | hector | i use archlinux too maybe you would like to pacman ttf-ms-fonts 1.3-6 |
| 15:51.15 | aureus | yes i have them |
| 15:51.22 | aureus | thats the result |
| 15:51.28 | hector | well just choose one |
| 15:51.36 | aureus | can i see a screenshot from you? than i can compare |
| 15:52.19 | hector | ok brb.. not using kde right now |
| 15:52.24 | PhilRod | aureus: use a bitmap font then |
| 15:52.30 | lauri | http://people.fruitsalad.org/lauri/screenshots/desktop-2005-05-26.png |
| 15:52.48 | lauri | http://people.fruitsalad.org/lauri/screenshots/konqueror-sftp.png |
| 15:52.49 | aureus | PhilRod, no i want use tahoma |
| 15:52.54 | lauri | (random ones I had lying around anyway) |
| 15:53.00 | vblanton | PhilRod: alright, thanks (about kde-docs) |
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| 15:54.13 | aureus | hm better than my fonts... |
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| 15:54.20 | _bender_0 | morning all |
| 15:54.40 | aureus | oh here in germany its evening ;) |
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| 15:55.05 | _bender_0 | can i change they way KDE uses Ctrl+Tab? i would like it not to use it for switching virual desktops. |
| 15:55.27 | aureus | lauri, which font is the font hich underlines the icons? |
| 15:55.33 | PhilRod | sure, look in control center -> regional & a11y -> shortcuts |
| 15:55.39 | PhilRod | that was for you _bender_0 :-) |
| 15:56.23 | _bender_0 | PhilRod: thanks! |
| 15:56.31 | lauri | aureus: in the second one? |
| 15:56.38 | lauri | century gothic |
| 15:56.45 | aureus | where can i get it :) |
| 15:57.11 | lauri | MS office :) |
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| 15:57.17 | aureus | lol |
| 15:57.17 | magnus___ | Anyone know what to do when I get lots of errors compiling kdebase (from konstruct) that says "mount_xdr.c: In function 'xdr_ppathcnf': \n mount_xdr.c:222: error: invalid lvalue in increment"? |
| 15:57.23 | magnus___ | \n beeing a newline |
| 15:57.44 | aureus | lauri, hmm can u send it to me via dcc? |
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| 15:58.22 | hector | ok who asked for that archlinux screenshot? |
| 15:58.42 | lauri | aureus: nope |
| 15:59.02 | aureus | lauri, why not ;) |
| 15:59.05 | lauri | but I'm quite sure you can find it around the net to download (it used to come free with mountains of MS apps, publisher, office, movie maker, all sorts) |
| 15:59.20 | aureus | lauri, ok i search... |
| 15:59.39 | lauri | because I respect the license that allows me to use it (if we don't respect other people's licenses, why should they bother to ever respect ours?) |
| 16:01.18 | PhilRod | magnus___: put the last 50 lines of the compile output on a pasteboard please |
| 16:01.23 | PhilRod | and give us the link :-) |
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| 16:01.50 | magnus___ | PhilRod: Having some problems pasting from blackbox/xterm to mozilla.. |
| 16:01.59 | magnus___ | But they basicly all say the same, only different line-numbers |
| 16:02.21 | hector | just select it and then middleclick |
| 16:02.39 | magnus___ | Think it may have to do with the fact that I'm using a precompiled QT which is probably compiled with gcc 3.3 and trying to compile kde with the default gcc 4.0 compiler of Debian? |
| 16:02.57 | PhilRod | magnus___: there might be a missing include or something (which is why the last 50 lines are useful). Can you try again? |
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| 16:03.00 | PhilRod | also, red: |
| 16:03.02 | PhilRod | read* |
| 16:03.05 | PhilRod | ~buildtr |
| 16:03.05 | apt | extra, extra, read all about it, buildtr is http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Build+Troubleshooting |
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| 16:03.42 | Lumination | hello... I have KDM on my system, and I have it set to start on the right runlevel (2 in debian), but I still get a text login ??? what's up with this? |
| 16:03.55 | magnus___ | PhilRod: You don't know how I tell make to build with a different CC? |
| 16:04.03 | PhilRod | Lumination: you're better off asking in #yourdistro, I think |
| 16:04.04 | magnus___ | I could try to build it with gcc3.3 :> |
| 16:04.09 | wers | When i open my homefolder with conqueror my files are by default shown as icons, how do I make it display the files as a list by default?? |
| 16:04.19 | pinotree | magnus___: export CC=gcc-3.3 |
| 16:04.21 | PhilRod | magnus___: I think you can just set the CC envar |
| 16:04.35 | pinotree | magnus___: export CXX=g++-3.3 |
| 16:04.43 | pinotree | magnus___: export CPP=cpp-3.3 |
| 16:04.47 | magnus___ | 'make CC=gcc-3.3' should also work, right? |
| 16:04.52 | PhilRod | wers: view -> view mode -> whatever you like |
| 16:05.09 | PhilRod | wers: then settings -> save view profile "file browsing" |
| 16:05.10 | pinotree | magnus___: do that exports before, and then simply make |
| 16:05.16 | magnus___ | yupp |
| 16:05.18 | Lumination | PhilRod, #debian doesn't like KDE ;) |
| 16:05.18 | magnus___ | ill try it |
| 16:05.19 | wers | PhilRod Thnx,, just found it.. ;) |
| 16:05.20 | _donofrio | what is the equivlient to kdesu that uses sudo insted of su -? |
| 16:06.04 | pinotree | Lumination: and then try #debian-kde |
| 16:06.11 | Lumination | PhilRod, okay, thanks |
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| 16:09.25 | _donofrio | anyone? |
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| 16:11.47 | madclicker | ahoy, is there a way to make konqueror to remember webpage passwords? |
| 16:12.25 | PhilRod | kwallet |
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| 16:16.43 | madclicker | PhilRod : thank you |
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| 16:27.46 | lilalinux | I'm looking for a poster printing app |
| 16:27.56 | lilalinux | preferrably something for kde |
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| 16:30.26 | magnus___ | http://rafb.net/paste/results/AQGC8O84.html <- thats the error I get when trying to compile kdebase.. |
| 16:30.47 | magnus___ | PhilRod :) |
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| 16:36.21 | CherryX^ | Hi! |
| 16:36.27 | CherryX^ | Erm, i'm trying out KDe-cygwin |
| 16:36.29 | pinotree | hello CherryX^ |
| 16:36.43 | CherryX^ | And, it seems, i cant get the "startkde" script to run |
| 16:36.47 | CherryX^ | I typed ~/startkde |
| 16:36.50 | CherryX^ | typed it in |
| 16:36.56 | CherryX^ | then Ctrl+D Enter |
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| 16:37.13 | CherryX^ | then did ~/startkde & |
| 16:37.16 | CherryX^ | And nothing |
| 16:37.30 | CherryX^ | Any help? |
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| 16:38.40 | CherryX^ | AH |
| 16:38.45 | CherryX^ | i just typed startkde |
| 16:38.46 | CherryX^ | =D |
| 16:39.33 | CherryX^ | Wow, it's running |
| 16:39.35 | CherryX^ | <3 |
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| 16:39.54 | CherryX^ | Still says "cant connect to x server 127.0.0.1" |
| 16:40.43 | CherryX^ | Any ideas? |
| 16:41.35 | CherryX^ | Please help |
| 16:41.39 | CherryX^ | ... |
| 16:42.38 | PhilRod | magnus___: paste more lines (at least 50, maybe more). I'm gone though - someone else may be able to help |
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| 16:44.45 | Cavurn | How do I make my cursor larger. I have changed resoultion to 800 by 600 and thought it would become larger. This is for a user with bad eyesight |
| 16:45.47 | CherryX^ | hmm |
| 16:46.03 | CherryX^ | Hmm |
| 16:46.12 | Cavurn | Maybe a file somewhere I could edit? |
| 16:46.46 | CherryX^ | Isnt it in the "control panel" thing? |
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| 16:47.32 | hector | well you could allways install a cursor theme that is larger |
| 16:47.43 | Cavurn | Probably best thanks |
| 16:50.01 | BlackBsd | i have noticed when emptying my trash bin the window just hangs, but the contents in the bin are gone.. and doing a top shows kio_slave eating up my processor. |
| 16:50.12 | CherryX^ | urgh! |
| 16:50.14 | BlackBsd | what package is kio_slave apart of |
| 16:50.19 | CherryX^ | I got the kicker working, the rest wont show up |
| 16:50.23 | BlackBsd | i have recompiled kde base |
| 16:51.38 | CherryX^ | someone please help |
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| 16:53.55 | DocTomoe | this actually is a problem of debian, not kdes, but I am asking here because someone might be able to help me and #debian-kde seems to sleep. |
| 16:54.09 | DocTomoe | I am using debian sarge from the netinstall CDs and tried to install the alioth 3.4.1 packages. however, it tells me that two packages (kdebase and kdebase-kio-plugins can not be upgraded vom 3.3.2 to 3.4.1 because they need dbus-qt-1 (>= 0.23.4), a package not avalible. While kde 3.4.1 still works, this leads to annoying side effects, like the inability to move files to the trashbin. I know that upgrading to 3.4.1 usually works, as I have see |
| 16:54.09 | DocTomoe | ea what could have went wrong and how I could get that missing package? |
| 16:54.44 | BlackBsd | cherryX have you tried to do a startx |
| 16:55.18 | BlackBsd | make sure ur x server is running |
| 16:55.41 | CherryX^ | BlackBSD |
| 16:55.42 | CherryX^ | it is |
| 16:55.48 | CherryX^ | but only the kicker shows up =( |
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| 16:56.07 | CherryX^ | it says xwinclip & |
| 16:56.10 | CherryX^ | But that doesnt work |
| 16:56.54 | CherryX^ | Meh |
| 16:57.54 | CherryX^ | any idea? |
| 16:58.03 | CherryX^ | it shopws on the screenshot, it as a full window |
| 16:58.08 | CherryX^ | mine is just the kicker |
| 16:58.51 | BlackBsd | i dont have any idea, i dont run cygwin or windows |
| 16:58.57 | CherryX^ | =( |
| 16:59.00 | BlackBsd | and i didnt even know kde would work on win |
| 16:59.02 | CherryX^ | i dont usually |
| 16:59.05 | CherryX^ | just stuck on this crap |
| 16:59.07 | CherryX^ | -_- |
| 16:59.07 | BlackBsd | thats cool though |
| 16:59.18 | BlackBsd | i do however use gcc on windows |
| 16:59.26 | CherryX^ | heh |
| 16:59.27 | BlackBsd | but sorry |
| 16:59.30 | CherryX^ | itry not to use windows |
| 16:59.32 | CherryX^ | hate it |
| 16:59.35 | CherryX^ | but i'm stuck with it |
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| 17:00.25 | wers | DocTomoe try an apt-cache search dbus-1 and install all that seem relevant |
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| 17:11.44 | metalhedd | juk (using the gstreamer output) is playing my ogg-vorbis files turbo-fast. never had this problem before. ogg123 plays oggs fine. can anyone help? |
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| 17:12.27 | IceD^ | metalhedd: try amarok? ;] |
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| 17:14.41 | metalhedd | IceD^: I dont like amarok. I want to use juk |
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| 17:28.44 | HilBilly | are there specifications for background image in kde? I tried loading two .jpg files and it kinda died and I now have a solid black background |
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| 17:29.57 | CHodapp | KDE takes all the images I throw it at . . . including 3000x1500 PNGs I've raytraced.... |
| 17:30.25 | HilBilly | hmmm |
| 17:31.44 | HilBilly | It showed the image fine in the preview window. But when I clicked 'apply' the hard drive went nutz for a long while and ended up all black ... let me try another image |
| 17:32.21 | IceD^ | HilBilly: I have solid black backgriund for the last 5 or 6 yeears |
| 17:32.37 | IceD^ | don't feel any difference - I have maximised konsole || emacs || konqueror || something all the time |
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| 17:36.14 | kottlett | is kdelibs-3.4.2 backwards compatible to kdelibs-3.4.1? |
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| 17:38.09 | [love] | hey.. im using konstruct.. how do i install to /usr instead of ~ |
| 17:39.19 | metalhedd | juk (using the gstreamer output) is playing my ogg-vorbis files turbo-fast. never had this problem before. ogg123 plays oggs fine. can anyone help? |
| 17:39.22 | magnus___ | Probably edit gar.conf.mk |
| 17:39.25 | magnus___ | love.. |
| 17:39.46 | pinotree | kottlett: you mean installing kdelibs-3.4.2 over a kde 3.4.1 installation? if so, yes, that compatible (like all the 3.x series) |
| 17:40.15 | pinotree | [love]: have you looked at konstruct options? |
| 17:40.32 | pinotree | (if any, i don't use konstruct) |
| 17:40.45 | kottlett | pinotree: that would be great, because I would like to update just some parts of kde, well kdelibs is a dep of all :P so that is fine? |
| 17:40.57 | pinotree | yes |
| 17:41.15 | kottlett | cool... thx =) |
| 17:41.19 | pinotree | ie, don't try do to the viceversa |
| 17:41.31 | kottlett | wouldn't g |
| 17:41.36 | pinotree | ie, installing kdebase 3.4.2 over a kdelibs 3.4.1 ;)ù |
| 17:41.38 | pinotree | -ù |
| 17:41.46 | kottlett | uh what? |
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| 17:41.55 | kottlett | ah... k ... got it =) |
| 17:41.59 | magnus___ | Does anyone know how to install KDE from source on a debian sid system? :> |
| 17:42.08 | [love] | prefix ?= $home/kde .. i can change that to prefix = /usr/kde ? |
| 17:42.09 | kottlett | use konstruct :) |
| 17:42.13 | pinotree | magnus___: yes, i on a such system |
| 17:42.18 | magnus___ | Seeing how there are problems due to transition from gcc 3.3 og 4.0 |
| 17:42.33 | magnus___ | to* |
| 17:42.46 | pinotree | [love]: yes, look in konstruct options |
| 17:42.54 | magnus___ | pinotree: With KDE compiled before or after gcc 4.0 entered the pool? |
| 17:42.58 | pinotree | i can't help you more on that, as i never used konstruct |
| 17:43.11 | kottlett | pinotree: btw, could it be, that the startup got slower with 3.4.2? I already update one box... and the startup feels pretty slow :-/ |
| 17:43.43 | pinotree | kottlett: don't remeber, but imho not (i'm on the develpment version now) |
| 17:43.58 | pinotree | magnus___: all my system is gcc-3.3 compiled |
| 17:44.01 | kottlett | k... thx |
| 17:44.02 | pinotree | and so my kde |
| 17:44.48 | magnus___ | pinotree: right.. but I cant even seem to compile KDE using 3.3 :> |
| 17:45.06 | pinotree | do that exports i suggested you before |
| 17:45.33 | magnus___ | Sure, I'll try it again.. resulted in errors though. I could paste them on a pastebin :> |
| 17:45.56 | _donofrio | what is the equivlient to kdesu that uses sudo insted of su -? |
| 17:46.02 | pinotree | have you re-run configure after those exports? |
| 17:46.21 | aseigo | _donofrio: there isn't in kde's mainline.. kubuntu has patches for that though |
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| 17:46.53 | _donofrio | aseigo - thats the exact distro I'm inquireing for do you have any more info like apt-get what patch? |
| 17:47.31 | aseigo | _donofrio: it's part of their kdebase package |
| 17:47.41 | magnus___ | pinotree: Think I did it.. will retry :> |
| 17:47.42 | aseigo | hm.. actually, no.. kdelibs |
| 17:48.17 | _donofrio | humm.....I'm running stock kubuntu and all the doc's say run sudo synaptic or whatever and I want to use kdesu (no konsole required) |
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| 17:50.10 | meth0s | im using multisynk to sync my laptop and desktop |
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| 17:50.26 | pinotree | good evening sredna =) |
| 17:51.01 | meth0s | the it keeps asking which version of some files i would like to keep local or remote |
| 17:51.03 | sredna | Hello pinotree, everybody :) |
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| 17:51.21 | meth0s | when i chose either local or remote it continues to ask me the next time i sync |
| 17:51.59 | _donofrio | aseigo - do you have any url's about this patch? |
| 17:53.26 | aseigo | _donofrio: i don't. ping riddell in #kubuntu |
| 17:57.31 | _donofrio | ok |
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| 18:03.27 | aseigo | _donofrio: http://people.ubuntu.com/~scott/patches/ |
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| 18:10.10 | forlorn | kongrats, aseigo |
| 18:10.18 | aseigo | forlorn: thanks =)) |
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| 18:11.07 | forlorn | just a week ago i asked you if you worked for kde full time, but you never responded, now i got the answer publicly :) |
| 18:11.48 | aseigo | forlorn: haha. yeah.. well, for the last 3 weeks i've been sitting on this news. |
| 18:11.53 | aseigo | "yes i do work on kde full time" |
| 18:11.57 | aseigo | "oh, for who?" |
| 18:12.00 | aseigo | "i can't tell you" |
| 18:12.03 | aseigo | "whu?" |
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| 18:13.09 | magnus___ | pinotree: http://rafb.net/paste/results/Fzy3Ff72.html - results of 'make' inside 'kdebase' with konstruct |
| 18:13.30 | magnus___ | Even did make clean inside the dir before I started.. |
| 18:14.00 | forlorn | hm, does anyone know if kde is close to deciding on a make system yet for kde4? |
| 18:15.07 | lauri | not at all |
| 18:15.18 | magnus___ | aseigo: Who do you work for? Too lazy to look up the blog you've probably written about it :P |
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| 18:15.45 | whirm | magnus_: trolltech |
| 18:15.49 | magnus___ | ooh |
| 18:16.55 | aseigo | magnus__: yeah, tt sponsors me to work on kde stuff full time now |
| 18:17.45 | magnus___ | wow, congratulations :) |
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| 18:18.40 | magnus___ | Then you should move to norway and do some lectures at NTNU about qt/kde development. haha :p |
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| 18:22.32 | aseigo | magnus__: heh.. well, i'll probably be up that way sometime soon, but i'll be staying in north america to help get kde the recognition and support it deserves here |
| 18:23.05 | magnus___ | allright :) |
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| 18:24.04 | The3_14ed|er | aaaargh |
| 18:24.12 | The3_14ed|er | I am getting sick and tired of this |
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| 18:24.37 | forlorn | kde is popular in north america, just not as much with developers as it is with users, proportionally to gnome |
| 18:24.57 | The3_14ed|er | although it only manages to open an empty file |
| 18:25.00 | The3_14ed|er | that's beside the point though |
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| 18:29.18 | McScruff | is there anyway to have the desktop have a running RSS feed (like on Xbox media center) |
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| 18:29.42 | HilBilly | KNewsTicker ... |
| 18:30.52 | Pupeno-- | Hello. |
| 18:31.21 | Pupeno-- | Can anybody help me get the battery monitor working on this IBM thinkpad ? |
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| 18:50.34 | ponto | ElFantistico: ask in #amarok |
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| 19:04.24 | vIkSiT | btw, how big is a kde update from 3.2 to 2.4 going to be? |
| 19:05.14 | HilBilly | vIkSiT ... why not just wait for 3.5? |
| 19:05.31 | vIkSiT | HilBilly, hmm. and how long a wait is that? :) |
| 19:05.42 | HilBilly | October |
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| 19:06.17 | HilBilly | One of the features is gonna be ad blocking in konqueror |
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| 19:06.29 | vanRijn | aseigo: congratulations, incidentally. I totally envy you. |
| 19:06.29 | HilBilly | That alone is worth the update! |
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| 19:06.41 | vIkSiT | HilBilly, hehe.. i use firefox anyway.. |
| 19:06.48 | HilBilly | So did I |
| 19:06.49 | aseigo | vanRijn: thanks =) |
| 19:06.55 | vIkSiT | "did" sounds omnious |
| 19:07.03 | vIkSiT | aseigo, hehe what was that about? :) |
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| 19:07.21 | aseigo | vIkSiT: which? vanRijn's congrats 'n envy? |
| 19:07.32 | vIkSiT | yup! |
| 19:07.56 | aseigo | vIkSiT: http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2005/08/full-time-kde-company-thats-making-it.html |
| 19:08.04 | vIkSiT | Wow |
| 19:08.09 | vIkSiT | link sounds cool too |
| 19:08.09 | vanRijn | lucky bugger |
| 19:08.31 | vIkSiT | hehe |
| 19:08.42 | aseigo | The3_14ed|er: lol |
| 19:09.16 | PhilRod | can anyone here reproduce this bug?: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=109931 |
| 19:09.20 | PhilRod | it works fine for me |
| 19:09.39 | vIkSiT | hehe.. |
| 19:09.53 | vIkSiT | congrats aseigo .. :) so plasma is suddenly closer in its release! |
| 19:12.34 | aseigo | PhilRod: will test just now.. khelpcenter is rebuilding the search index atm |
| 19:12.52 | PhilRod | cheers aseigo |
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| 19:16.29 | Dhraakellian | aseigo, dude, trolltech? and here I was thinking it was some canadian thingy |
| 19:16.31 | Dhraakellian | cool |
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| 19:17.03 | aseigo | Dhraakellian: heh. i can't think of anyone in .ca who'd do what tt are doing for me, sadly |
| 19:17.14 | aseigo | Dhraakellian: give it another couple years though and that'll change ;) |
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| 19:17.32 | aseigo | Dhraakellian: i'm not moving though.. so.. yeah, i'll still be doing the n. american rah-rah tours |
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| 19:18.44 | Dhraakellian | aseigo, just let me know when one of these new developer thingies is goign to be coming to the northeastern U.S. |
| 19:18.45 | Dhraakellian | !;) |
| 19:19.07 | aseigo | Dhraakellian: probably the spring .. we'll of course make the necessary announcements |
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| 19:19.15 | Dhraakellian | of course |
| 19:19.22 | aseigo | anybody here running mandriva, with their kde binaries? |
| 19:20.42 | vanRijn | aseigo: yes |
| 19:21.00 | aseigo | damn. phil left before i could reply. oh well, i'll just comment on the bug itself |
| 19:21.03 | vanRijn | aseigo: well, thac's rpms. not the exclusive-gotta-pay-mandrake-money-to-get-them rpms. |
| 19:21.18 | Tilos | Is there any way to rename the Desktop-folder? |
| 19:21.20 | aseigo | vanRijn: sweet. could you do me a small favour? can you go into the control center, kde components, service manager... |
| 19:21.33 | aseigo | vanRijn: see if there is an "icon server" intry in there somewhere? |
| 19:22.03 | vanRijn | let me check |
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| 19:22.49 | vanRijn | hm |
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| 19:23.47 | vanRijn | http://img246.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screengrab7zw.jpg |
| 19:23.50 | vanRijn | that's what I see |
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| 19:24.06 | vanRijn | aseigo: there's a Favicon Module? |
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| 19:25.23 | aseigo | vanRijn: hrm. damn. not there. i guess i'll have to go to #mandriva |
| 19:25.30 | aseigo | vanRijn: thanks for the shot anyways =) |
| 19:26.24 | vanRijn | aseigo: surely. =:) |
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| 19:32.08 | PhilRod | aseigo: thanks for checking |
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| 19:33.39 | kottlett | hi |
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| 19:34.39 | kottlett | if I create a desktopfile which starts "konsole -e ssh user@host" ... it just works fine. same thing in kmenu just opens a window an closes it immediately... or am I missing something? |
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| 19:38.05 | mistik1 | any Kmail users find a way to have kmail filter mail from one imap folder to another |
| 19:38.27 | aseigo | client side filtering on imap is only in 3.5 afaik |
| 19:38.31 | mistik1 | So far the dialog will only move mail to local folders not folders on the imap server |
| 19:38.42 | mdouhan | mistik1: sure in 3.5 svn |
| 19:38.44 | mistik1 | ouch!1 |
| 19:39.45 | mistik1 | oh well, I'm running too much unstable on this box already cant chance that with my email |
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| 19:40.56 | Adam_eM | hi there |
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| 19:41.18 | Adam_eM | is it possible to disable arts, and use alsa only ? |
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| 19:43.43 | mistik1 | oh btw, A most comendable job on the rest of KDE the 3.4.x series is by far the most polished version to date |
| 19:44.09 | mistik1 | This is spoken as one that has been back and forth with KDE since Beta-0.94 |
| 19:44.24 | mistik1 | Keep up the good work guys |
| 19:45.11 | Adam_eM | i've asked because i have some problems with games that uses OSS |
| 19:45.41 | Adam_eM | so is it possible to disable arts, and use alsa or anything else? |
| 19:46.08 | mistik1 | yes you can disable arts |
| 19:47.29 | HilBilly | what exactly is the purpose of arts anyhow? |
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| 19:48.01 | PieD | HilBilly: being usefull when it appeared, but boring yet :) |
| 19:48.06 | PieD | it's a sound server |
| 19:48.18 | Adam_eM | mistik1: how can i do it then ? |
| 19:48.20 | PieD | it allows multiple applications to use the sound card |
| 19:48.23 | HilBilly | isn't that alsa's job tho? |
| 19:48.29 | HilBilly | ok |
| 19:48.45 | HilBilly | I know I have to kill it frequently to get mplayer to function correctly |
| 19:48.47 | PieD | alsa didn't allow multiple applications to use the sound card a few years ago |
| 19:48.56 | PieD | even more : a few years ago, alsa didn't exist :p |
| 19:51.47 | Adam_eM | so how can i disable arts ? I want to do it so as to be able to play sound anyway ;) |
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| 20:00.12 | vanRijn | Adam_eM: go to control panel, sound, sound system, and uncheck "Enable the sound system" |
| 20:01.21 | Adam_eM | vanRijn: but i don't hear any sound then |
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| 20:03.12 | vanRijn | um |
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| 20:03.50 | mistik1 | I'd rather find out why I cant find any way to do keybinding for volume control |
| 20:04.36 | mistik1 | would be nice to use my laptop volume/mute buttons without yet another external app |
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| 20:08.32 | cbr | where's the File Size View option in my konq? |
| 20:08.37 | cbr | it isnt under View |
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| 20:09.31 | ponto | cbr: File Size View? |
| 20:09.37 | cbr | yes |
| 20:10.08 | cbr | http://www.newsforge.com/blob.pl?id=c381fee15ae5bd3c096cb825fd28153c |
| 20:10.09 | cbr | like this |
| 20:10.58 | ponto | cbr: the first optionlist in view? |
| 20:11.05 | cbr | it isnt there |
| 20:11.37 | ponto | then you have not installed it |
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| 20:12.50 | cbr | ponto: is it a separate package or smth? |
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| 20:13.47 | cbr | oh |
| 20:13.49 | cbr | konq-plugins |
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| 20:26.31 | eneri | I need a few options for an especially nice secure webmail service. |
| 20:27.51 | eneri | Sorry, folks. I need an account, not to implement a front-end. |
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| 20:29.47 | wooden | is there a kde-app for tv watching? |
| 20:30.14 | madpenguin8 | yes |
| 20:30.20 | madpenguin8 | www.kde-apps.org |
| 20:30.37 | madpenguin8 | there is a kde app for doing just about anything |
| 20:33.03 | sredna | Try 'apps:TV' in konqueror |
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| 20:45.54 | langenberg | I'm experiencing many, many and again many crashes when closing a website in akregrator (from Kontact). Is this my fault, or is Akregator still not very stable? |
| 20:47.02 | lippel | langenberg: well, we have no bugreports regarding crashes when closing websites |
| 20:47.02 | Alethes | it's you |
| 20:47.03 | Alethes | :D |
| 20:47.18 | lippel | langenberg: so it's at least unsual, but probably not your fault ;-) |
| 20:47.25 | langenberg | Sure? |
| 20:47.26 | lippel | langenberg: which version do you use? |
| 20:47.42 | langenberg | mm I'll file some reports in that case. |
| 20:47.54 | lippel | langenberg: do you have backtraces? |
| 20:48.01 | langenberg | I use the latest version |
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| 20:48.06 | langenberg | 3.4.2 |
| 20:48.26 | langenberg | Yes I have backtraces lippel |
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| 20:48.45 | lippel | langenberg: how often does it happen? and does it happen also in standalone mode (outside of kontact)? |
| 20:49.04 | langenberg | I'll try it outside Kontact |
| 20:49.33 | lippel | langenberg: could you paste the bt to http://rafb.net/paste ? just to have a first look. |
| 20:49.36 | langenberg | and it happens about everytime I check the weblogs. |
| 20:49.50 | langenberg | s/the/my |
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| 20:50.29 | langenberg | The sites that crash kontact usally contain flash. |
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| 20:51.17 | lippel | langenberg: and it does not crash in konqueror? |
| 20:51.58 | lippel | langenberg: could you give a feed URL of a blog where it crashes often? |
| 20:52.00 | langenberg | .. yeah sometimes. |
| 20:52.09 | langenberg | but less |
| 20:52.34 | langenberg | lippel: Most times it doesn't crash the second time. |
| 20:52.51 | langenberg | lippel: that's the weird thing about it, but I'll get a backtrace |
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| 20:57.30 | langenberg | Right, got a crash! |
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| 20:58.29 | langenberg | http://m-thijz.com/file/akregator_crash.log |
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| 20:59.09 | lippel | langenberg: unfortunately that is of no use. you'd need debugging enabled |
| 20:59.45 | langenberg | .. I don't have it enabled then? |
| 20:59.50 | lippel | langenberg: can you give me a feed that crashes for you? |
| 21:00.19 | lippel | or, better, where the browser widgets crash |
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| 21:00.30 | parapente | hi |
| 21:00.42 | langenberg | Well after opening the same link for the second time, it didn't crash |
| 21:00.58 | langenberg | But i've compiled everything on my system with debug enabled tho |
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| 21:01.43 | eneri | What are the HUSHMAIL alternatives? |
| 21:01.47 | eneri | I am looking for something nice and special. |
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| 21:02.23 | lippel | langenberg: you use gentoo? or manually compiled? |
| 21:02.30 | langenberg | Gentoo |
| 21:02.46 | langenberg | So that could be my fault. |
| 21:02.58 | langenberg | But I don't use any weird optimalisations |
| 21:03.09 | langenberg | compiling with -O2 |
| 21:03.11 | lippel | hmm, if you have the debug USE-flag set... |
| 21:04.28 | lippel | maybe your flash plugin is crappy. i had nice experiences with konq freezing all the time and dumping rubbish to /tmp until the partition was full |
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| 21:05.01 | lippel | if konq/khtml crashes, we can't do much about in akregator |
| 21:05.15 | langenberg | Can't it be that the backtrace became useless because of something with the stack corrupted? |
| 21:05.16 | lippel | its weird though that it crashes in akregator all the time |
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| 21:05.49 | lippel | don't know, would it show "no debugging symbols found" then? |
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| 21:07.21 | no6 | can anyone help me? KDE is broken since 2.6.12 and i dunno why |
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| 21:07.47 | CapNemo | hello :) |
| 21:07.53 | CapNemo | is k3b part of the kde project ? |
| 21:08.03 | pinotree | CapNemo: an extragear app |
| 21:08.15 | pinotree | no6: kde 2.6.12 ??? |
| 21:08.23 | lippel | sort of, but not part of the official releases |
| 21:08.26 | CapNemo | pinotree, so i should ask question in another channel no ? |
| 21:08.30 | no6 | yep since kernel version 2.6.12 |
| 21:08.55 | no6 | it acts like a dcop problem but the problem isn't there with 2.6.11 |
| 21:09.05 | pinotree | CapNemo: iirc, there's a #k3b channel |
| 21:09.06 | no6 | tried 2.6.13-rc5 too but it has the same problem |
| 21:09.19 | CapNemo | pinotree, ok thanks a lot :) |
| 21:09.22 | langenberg | lippel: when build without debug, it should say that it needs to be build with debug |
| 21:09.35 | no6 | i dont want to stick forever with 2.6.11 so i need help ... |
| 21:09.39 | pinotree | CapNemo: if it's empty, you could ask here too... |
| 21:10.05 | langenberg | Oh and another thing, everytime I exit KDE, kicker crashes too. |
| 21:10.32 | CapNemo | in fact, i have seen in k3b video encoding features, and i try to find documentation about that ! |
| 21:10.50 | lippel | langenberg: do you have gdb installed? |
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| 21:11.04 | langenberg | yes lippel |
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| 21:11.31 | langenberg | lippel: would you like to see some tracebacks from kicker? |
| 21:12.17 | lippel | langenberg: then you could start akregator, and run "gdb akregator <pid>", enter "cont" there, make it crash, and use "bt" then to get a backtrace |
| 21:12.17 | langenberg | http://m-thijz.com/file/kicker-crash.log |
| 21:12.28 | langenberg | (might be useless also) |
| 21:12.40 | langenberg | ok gonna try that |
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| 21:19.41 | no6 | where can i found logs about kde? |
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| 21:21.39 | lauri | if you use kdm, look in .xsession-errors |
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| 21:24.13 | ahmad | حكعحجع |
| 21:24.17 | ahmad | خخخخخخخخخخخخخخخخخخخخخخخخخخخخخخخخخخخخخخخ |
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| 21:25.42 | pinotree | wow, nice unicode :D |
| 21:26.50 | koala_man | I just see boxes :) |
| 21:26.57 | koala_man | I gotta get a http://www.cafepress.com/nucleartacos.26746951 |
| 21:29.22 | Blissex | koala_man: I got Konversation and nice fonts and I see things right-to-left and proper (I suppose) script |
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| 21:31.13 | pinotree | yeah |
| 21:33.07 | CapNemo | oops i think the encode video feature in k3b is almost dead ! |
| 21:35.29 | df00z | hey |
| 21:35.41 | df00z | for some reason if my CPU is underload konqueror has a tendency to lock up periodically |
| 21:35.47 | df00z | itl unlock within a few seconds, but it's weird |
| 21:36.03 | df00z | Like if I go to google.com, itl load the top 1/2 instantly, pause while it loads the textbox |
| 21:36.06 | df00z | then load the rest |
| 21:36.10 | df00z | firefox doesn't do that |
| 21:36.35 | df00z | What could be causing that? im on 3.4.1 |
| 21:36.45 | df00z | it does it when I type in the location bar too |
| 21:36.48 | df00z | ill be typing whatever.com |
| 21:36.52 | koala_man | same here |
| 21:36.56 | df00z | itl be like whate *pause*ver |
| 21:37.24 | Theory_ | I thought that was how you were meant to pronounce it... |
| 21:37.38 | df00z | haha |
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| 21:51.58 | crispynix-v6 | df00z: same behavior here |
| 21:52.53 | crispynix-v6 | df00z: actually nevermind, it doesn't freeze when I'm typing in the address bar |
| 21:53.14 | crispynix-v6 | does freeze when I'm visiting sites and something's going on in another tab though |
| 21:54.40 | df00z | hrm. |
| 21:54.45 | df00z | i wonder why it does that |
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| 21:56.13 | trog | hi ....does anyone know why some icons dont appear in the kde menu ? ...for example the icon for "Internet" or "Games" ... |
| 21:56.40 | trog | my distro is Decebal ... |
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| 22:15.22 | sycofly | hi KDE'ers |
| 22:15.31 | df00z | hi |
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| 22:16.38 | sycofly | has any1 come across any problems with Network issues when upgrading KDE3.4.0 to KDE3.4.2 ? |
| 22:17.04 | df00z | What kind |
| 22:17.12 | df00z | i just upgraded from .1 to .2 |
| 22:17.21 | sycofly | like myself .. i lost all network activity |
| 22:17.56 | df00z | What |
| 22:18.02 | df00z | no websites or anything or something? |
| 22:18.27 | sycofly | checked all files with the process on networking(slackware) and all looks as pre-KDE3.4.2 |
| 22:18.47 | df00z | That doesnt make any sense |
| 22:19.02 | sycofly | im not able to connect ot any nodes on my network .. lsorry .. |
| 22:19.08 | sycofly | oops |
| 22:19.12 | df00z | What do you mean...connect |
| 22:19.14 | sycofly | sorry guys .. |
| 22:19.24 | df00z | you're on IRC |
| 22:19.42 | sycofly | no |
| 22:19.47 | sycofly | miranda |
| 22:19.52 | df00z | oh |
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| 22:20.09 | df00z | Connect to what? |
| 22:20.27 | sycofly | i have switched over to windows to sort out my issues with KDE |
| 22:20.39 | sycofly | hehe |
| 22:21.07 | sycofly | all hardware is fine as im able to work my netwrok from another OS |
| 22:21.24 | df00z | It sounds like something upgraded wrong, kde has nothing to do with networking |
| 22:21.33 | df00z | Maybe try another distro? |
| 22:21.39 | df00z | I've always had problems upgrading things on slackware |
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| 22:21.59 | sycofly | KDE uses modules for networking |
| 22:22.51 | sycofly | i like slackware .. looked at others and they just seem to come across as a little inferior |
| 22:23.46 | df00z | Except not. |
| 22:23.46 | df00z | lol |
| 22:23.59 | sycofly | anyway .. i'll boot back into slack and kick KDE into gear and try another approach |
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| 22:24.06 | df00z | Bye |
| 22:24.11 | sycofly | miss u |
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| 22:32.36 | Technel | I am using Debian-stable. I recently (like 20 minutes ago) switched from XFCE to KDE. I have two questions, though: 1.) I could start XFCE with "startx", but after I uninstalled it and got KDE, "startx" just brings up this "Debian window manager". I have to do "xinit /usr/bin/startkde" to start KDE/X. How do I get "startx" to work? 2.) How do I add/edit/delete items in the application menu? (e.g. in XFCE you could just use xfce4-menued |
| 22:32.36 | Technel | itor) |
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| 23:23.11 | kkrizka | hi |
| 23:23.17 | kkrizka | having trouble setting up arts with kde |
| 23:23.21 | kkrizka | *kde=dmix |
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