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| 00:02.28 | halibut | I have set kmix shortcut winkey+numpad_plus/minus to turn volume up and down |
| 00:03.09 | halibut | which works, |
| 00:03.16 | halibut | except for when I am running UT2004 |
| 00:03.29 | halibut | any ideas? |
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| 00:09.13 | dystopianray | do other kde shortcuts work in ut2004? I'd imagine it'd intercept most things and discard wahtever it doesn't understand |
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| 00:11.45 | Oleg_ | KIRK |
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| 00:22.00 | aldin | ima li ko iz sa |
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| 00:42.43 | bumpkin | hey |
| 00:42.53 | bumpkin | so what's goin on in the KDE world nowadays? |
| 00:43.47 | bumpkin | was hoping aKademy might have streaming video but darn |
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| 00:48.40 | thrice` | how can I put a trash icon on my desktop if I've deleted it on accident ? |
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| 00:51.19 | stampede | thrice`: open system:/ in konqueror and drag the trash icon to the desktop |
| 00:53.01 | thrice` | stampede: that just creates a dir |
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| 00:53.39 | stampede | odd... then right-click on the desktop, choose Create New -> Link to Location, and set the url to trash:// |
| 00:54.15 | thrice` | maliformed url |
| 00:55.18 | chrisag | thrice': good band :) |
| 00:55.27 | thrice` | :) |
| 00:55.29 | chrisag | I get that too.. |
| 00:55.38 | thrice` | this sucks :| |
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| 00:56.13 | chrisag | mhmm |
| 00:56.51 | stampede | thrice`: does trash:/ work? I typed one "/" in excess... |
| 00:56.52 | grepper | thrice`: trash:/ not trash:// |
| 00:57.13 | chrisag | even trash:/ does it |
| 00:57.30 | thrice` | yup, worked :) |
| 00:57.34 | chrisag | ooh |
| 00:57.35 | thrice` | thanks guys |
| 00:57.39 | chrisag | mine didn't do that |
| 00:57.40 | chrisag | :x |
| 00:58.02 | ptahotep | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:58.02 | thrice` | the icon even found itself |
| 00:58.18 | chrisag | tooo lazy though |
| 00:58.24 | chrisag | I like mandriva taking care of it for me |
| 00:58.43 | thrice` | i'm on kde 3.5 alpha... pretty impress so far |
| 00:59.38 | stampede | 3.5 is nice... my only gripe with it is the fact that kicker insists in crashing on exit :( |
| 01:00.00 | chrisag | it does that for me on mandriva in 3.4.2 |
| 01:01.23 | thrice` | and kmenu still hasn't fixed its spawning location |
| 01:01.35 | stampede | do you use menubar-on-top? the only way of not making it crash here is to disable menubar-on-top... |
| 01:02.17 | stampede | haven't seen this in a while, kmenu pops in the right location for me |
| 01:03.46 | chrisag | menu bar on top? |
| 01:04.33 | stampede | mac-style menubar |
| 01:04.37 | chrisag | ah no. |
| 01:06.05 | stampede | ah, ok... it seems I have to mail the backtrace to someone, or take a look at the code myself... |
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| 01:06.37 | chrisag | System Information for [ CG ] |
| 01:06.37 | chrisag | OS/Kernel Linux 2.6.12-10mdksmp |
| 01:06.37 | chrisag | CPU Info Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz 3000.305 Mhz Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz 3000.305 Mhz 5947.39 Bogomips |
| 01:06.38 | chrisag | 5980.16 Bogomips |
| 01:06.38 | chrisag | HD Info 371GB total storage capacity |
| 01:06.39 | chrisag | Memory 298.262/2026.66MB |
| 01:06.41 | chrisag | Processes 108 |
| 01:06.43 | chrisag | Uptime 1:46 |
| 01:06.49 | chrisag | mmm 2 gigs of RAM :D |
| 01:11.57 | ysm | 4 cpu? |
| 01:15.13 | chrisag | Does anyone know how to get flash to work in konqueror? |
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| 01:15.59 | thrice` | hm...now my screensaver selection is nothing |
| 01:16.10 | thrice` | how can I make it recognize xscreensaver? |
| 01:16.59 | stibby | are there any scripts for konversation that show current BT activity? |
| 01:17.31 | chrisag | BT? |
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| 01:17.45 | stibby | bittorrent |
| 01:17.54 | chrisag | I'm sure there might be |
| 01:18.04 | blshkv | morning guys |
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| 01:18.05 | chrisag | try konversation.kde.org .... or kde-apps.org |
| 01:18.10 | chrisag | morning blashjv |
| 01:18.12 | chrisag | -a |
| 01:18.57 | blshkv | yo, I found a bug in konqueror and it's confirmed on bugs.kde but nobody gonna fix it in the nearest future. |
| 01:19.09 | stampede | which bug? |
| 01:19.22 | blshkv | I was wondering if sobody can help me to fix it in the source. .. |
| 01:19.31 | blshkv | it's ajax encoding problem |
| 01:19.36 | thrice` | damnit, this sucks |
| 01:19.54 | thrice` | anyone have any idea? which package contains screesavers? |
| 01:21.28 | blshkv | kde-base/kdeartwork-kscreensaver * |
| 01:21.28 | blshkv | kde-base/kscreensaver * |
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| 01:21.41 | stampede | blshkv: bug number? |
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| 01:22.07 | blshkv | just a min. |
| 01:22.41 | blshkv | 110768 |
| 01:22.57 | blshkv | https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=110768 |
| 01:23.19 | blshkv | I found the place in the source, and it's written: FIXME there :) |
| 01:23.28 | sbs | hola |
| 01:23.45 | thrice` | kdebase? |
| 01:23.47 | thrice` | that's strange |
| 01:23.59 | sbs | hello room |
| 01:24.25 | blshkv | thrice` no, i'm using split packages .. |
| 01:24.54 | blshkv | thrice` : it might be in the kdeartwork |
| 01:25.15 | thrice` | there is kde-artwork ? |
| 01:25.31 | blshkv | something like this .. |
| 01:25.38 | stampede | blshkv: tell me the place in the sources then... i haven't tried your testcase yet, but I can't see any obvious problems with bugtraq.ru |
| 01:26.10 | stampede | thrice`:it's kdeartwork, no "-" |
| 01:26.20 | blshkv | stampede it's in xmlhttprequest.cpp file. |
| 01:26.23 | sbs | . |
| 01:26.35 | thrice` | oops, forgot to compile it :) |
| 01:26.46 | blshkv | kdelibs/khtml/ecma |
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| 01:27.05 | sbs | . |
| 01:27.06 | FenixRF | Greetings! |
| 01:27.20 | FenixRF | Where do I change KDE's startup script to launch kxdocker instead of kicker? |
| 01:27.44 | blshkv | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:27.44 | blshkv | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:27.44 | blshkv | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:27.50 | stampede | blshkv: I see the FIXME... I'll take a deeper look at the code and see if I can fix it |
| 01:28.08 | blshkv | stampede I would really appritiate it ... |
| 01:28.52 | stampede | blshkv: i'll try... can't promise anything though, as I never touched that part of the code before |
| 01:28.58 | blshkv | stampede is any quick fix? I just want to setup cp1251 there? |
| 01:30.27 | blshkv | stampede: I was trying to add decoder->setEncoding("cp 1251" as a quick hack but i was wrong :) |
| 01:30.44 | stampede | blshkv: don't know, I just started reading the code... the fix must be non-trivial, though, else somebody would have already fixed it... |
| 01:31.08 | blshkv | stampede I see ... thanks for trying to help anyway .. |
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| 01:46.18 | nwonknu | hi guys, im having a big problem here... im running suse 9.3 with kde and i try to modify my freetype2 lib to get better fonts rendering (by defining TT_CONFIG_OPTION_BYTECODE_INTERPRETER). it compiles without problems but ermm...kde wont start anymore after this... weird cuz its the same version suse 9.3 is using and i do ldconfig and SuSEconfig (maybe i should try SuSEconfig.font as well? but i dont think this is the problem.. |
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| 02:06.15 | xomp | would anyone know if there are any DVD backup programs for KDE? |
| 02:06.25 | frb | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:06.41 | xomp | one that will rip to hdd in .iso format :) |
| 02:06.48 | frb | it will |
| 02:06.53 | xomp | cool :) |
| 02:07.04 | xomp | much thanks \o |
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| 02:08.36 | shray | http://pastebin.com/348127 |
| 02:08.39 | shray | can anyone help me? :( |
| 02:08.47 | shray | seems to error out always there, I tried compiling twice |
| 02:08.53 | Alethes | no, you're beyond hope |
| 02:09.08 | shray | hehe =) |
| 02:10.55 | Alethes | notice I provided a sarcastic response but absolutely no help |
| 02:10.59 | Alethes | there's a reason for that |
| 02:11.03 | Alethes | sarcasm is the refuge of the ignorant |
| 02:12.56 | shray | ah ye |
| 02:12.57 | shray | s |
| 02:13.22 | shray | now I just wonder how that relates to kde =) |
| 02:14.40 | Alethes | it relates to kde for you, 'cause it's keeping you from getting the help you need ;) |
| 02:15.52 | shray | heh |
| 02:15.53 | shray | i see |
| 02:16.06 | Alethes | that said, maybe I could look at what you pasted |
| 02:16.12 | shray | oh okay. thanks |
| 02:17.50 | Alethes | like I said, I'm fairly ignorant, but I'm guessing you have the wrong version of openssl installed |
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| 02:18.56 | yanger | hmm.. is there a known issue with gif images and konquerer? |
| 02:19.21 | yanger | when i use konquerer as the file manager, and i put my mouse over a gif image, the system suddenly freezes up |
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| 02:19.33 | Alethes | yuck |
| 02:19.40 | yanger | i would have to ssh into the system and reboot it ... |
| 02:19.42 | Alethes | shray: does my answer jive with your understanding? |
| 02:19.58 | pussfeller | how do i get kontact to open up links in emails not in a tmp cache, but the actual url |
| 02:20.05 | Alethes | yanger: that's only on gifs? |
| 02:20.09 | yanger | is there a way to disable auto-preview? |
| 02:20.17 | yanger | Alethes, so far... :| |
| 02:20.22 | yanger | whenever the yellow preview thingy appears |
| 02:21.10 | Alethes | gotta dir you can check with jpgs or pngs? |
| 02:21.22 | yanger | heh, i would not want to try again... |
| 02:21.36 | yanger | is there a way to just temporarily disable the yellow preview window? |
| 02:21.38 | Alethes | hehe |
| 02:21.46 | Alethes | sure, you can just change the view type |
| 02:22.04 | yanger | eh? |
| 02:22.17 | Alethes | hang on a sec |
| 02:23.26 | Alethes | konqs prefs suck |
| 02:23.49 | Alethes | I think you'll want to go to configure konqueror, then Previews and Metadata |
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| 02:28.25 | shray | okay lemme install a different openssl |
| 02:28.26 | shray | thanks |
| 02:31.04 | Alethes | shray: hope it helps :) |
| 02:31.33 | shray | thanks will try |
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| 02:32.17 | Alethes | I'm basing it on the error you're getting and the includes that are happening |
| 02:32.38 | shray | do you use gentoo ? |
| 02:32.40 | Alethes | usually when functions/classes aren't defined it means the deps are the wrong version |
| 02:32.46 | Alethes | no thank god :P |
| 02:32.49 | shray | ;o |
| 02:32.54 | Alethes | I use fbsd |
| 02:32.57 | shray | ahh |
| 02:33.02 | Alethes | which is what gentoo only wishes it could be :D |
| 02:33.04 | Alethes | heh heh |
| 02:33.07 | shray | =] |
| 02:33.11 | yanger | cool |
| 02:33.16 | shray | portage is better than ports :P |
| 02:33.17 | Alethes | yanger: did that do it? |
| 02:33.18 | yanger | turning off metadata doesn't freeze it |
| 02:33.20 | Alethes | pfftt |
| 02:33.21 | Alethes | cool |
| 02:33.24 | yanger | but no more previews :| |
| 02:33.28 | yanger | oh well :P |
| 02:33.28 | Alethes | :P |
| 02:33.32 | Alethes | at least it doesn't freeze |
| 02:33.42 | yanger | maybe they'll fix it in the next ver |
| 02:34.10 | Alethes | might have some other issue that isn't a bug with kde |
| 02:34.15 | Alethes | maybe a problem with X or something |
| 02:34.20 | yanger | oh could be |
| 02:34.25 | yanger | but.. i did notice |
| 02:34.30 | yanger | that animated gifs don't animate |
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| 02:35.11 | Alethes | if it's a problem with gifs, I suspect it'll freeze when you go to webpages with gifs (just about all of them) |
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| 03:14.59 | pussfeller | why does konq open webpages frrom apps in the tmp cache, this is driving me nuts |
| 03:15.43 | Alethes | good ol' kio |
| 03:15.54 | pussfeller | no not good |
| 03:16.08 | EasterSunshine | hello, i was wondering what is the standard way of inputting japanese utf8 into konversation, including hiragana, kanji, and katakana? |
| 03:16.09 | pussfeller | is this an kubuntu protect me from myself thing |
| 03:16.21 | Alethes | nah |
| 03:16.37 | Alethes | it's a kio trying to determine the file type before opening it in the appropriate app |
| 03:17.11 | pussfeller | im clicking on a link in kontact or konversation! |
| 03:17.23 | Alethes | right |
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| 03:17.40 | Alethes | and kio opens the link, determines the mime type, then opens it in the correct app |
| 03:17.53 | Alethes | if it was an image or a text file, it'd open it with the image view of your choice or kate or whatever |
| 03:18.02 | Alethes | instead of the browser, that is |
| 03:18.06 | pussfeller | that sounds awfully complicated |
| 03:18.10 | Alethes | heh |
| 03:18.21 | Alethes | it has its benefits, but you and I are both experiencing frustrations with it |
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| 03:19.10 | pussfeller | should not the coders bypass this and just have it open up the appropriate app either in the user settings or the app settings, instead of passing it off to kio? |
| 03:19.44 | pussfeller | i see what they are trying to accomplish, but this is just simple stuff here |
| 03:20.17 | Alethes | if kde used a simple solution it wouldn't be kde anymore, would it? :P |
| 03:20.18 | Alethes | heh heh |
| 03:21.27 | pussfeller | people in #kubuntu act like i am crazy for expecting that you click a link, it opens up a web browser that goes to the internet |
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| 03:22.02 | pussfeller | heh its so simple, its hard to describe without sounding silly |
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| 03:22.31 | spatialguru | hi folks |
| 03:22.43 | spatialguru | I'm an avid kmail user and every now and then I hit some strange key combination... |
| 03:23.06 | spatialguru | that right-justifies my text, and does weird things with the cursor. Anyone know what I mean? |
| 03:23.19 | Alethes | pussfeller: the assumption is that if somebody posts a link to a file that isn't html, you'd want that file opened in the appropriate app |
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| 03:37.38 | nicksirZ | I had to use kdesu kcontrol to unlock admin mode in KDE Control Center, however it isn't working now, it stays locked, can anybody help me? |
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| 03:38.00 | spstarr | hrm, where can I find the korganizer holiday plugin? |
| 03:38.16 | spstarr | ubuntu (breezy) |
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| 03:46.29 | stibby | what happens when filenames that contain "(" or "/" are transferred to windows? |
| 03:46.42 | stibby | and should i keep these symbols out of filenames at all costs? |
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| 03:50.03 | OldMan | How do you get a / in a filename? |
| 03:50.14 | OldMan | "(" transfers over just fine, from what I hear. |
| 03:50.52 | OldMan | In theory, the only thing that won't is "? |
| 03:50.53 | OldMan | " |
| 03:50.57 | stibby | i'm on an ext3 filesystem |
| 03:51.08 | stibby | and i was able to do it :shrug: |
| 03:51.26 | OldMan | How? |
| 03:51.55 | stibby | i don't knom |
| 03:51.56 | stibby | *w |
| 03:52.01 | stibby | i'm using konqueror |
| 03:52.08 | stibby | and i could also put in ? |
| 03:52.27 | OldMan | Ah, I guess you can with konqueror. |
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| 03:52.32 | OldMan | That must be a limitation of bash then. |
| 03:52.38 | stibby | hmm |
| 03:52.47 | stibby | but parentheses are okay? |
| 03:52.53 | OldMan | Ohhhh |
| 03:53.01 | OldMan | It doesn't actually use / in the filename on ext3 |
| 03:53.13 | OldMan | It uses %2f, which konqueror then renders as / |
| 03:53.18 | stibby | okay |
| 03:53.26 | stibby | but are ")" and "(" acceptable? |
| 03:53.36 | OldMan | So that should transfer over to windows okay, but it'll probably also look like "%2f" instead of "/" |
| 03:53.43 | OldMan | Yes, () are acceptable. |
| 03:53.56 | stibby | k |
| 03:53.57 | stibby | thanks |
| 03:54.03 | grepper | ick |
| 03:54.08 | stibby | but doesn't windows hate them? |
| 03:54.43 | OldMan | Not that I know of... I don't use windows, but I trade music with people who do. They use () in their filenames too. |
| 03:54.53 | OldMan | The only thing they ever complain about is question marks in my filenames. |
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| 04:53.02 | anomaly | would a p333/256mb ram be alright for running kde? |
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| 05:02.55 | chodapp | anomaly, should be okay, with some things turned down a bit |
| 05:03.14 | anomaly | ty |
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| 05:34.43 | ysm | i'm using a 300/25mb ram, without arts, right now, it's supportable ;p |
| 05:34.57 | ysm | at least, when you don't have to compile everything.. |
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| 05:44.59 | canllaith | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:45.04 | canllaith | Is that a typo ysm ? |
| 05:45.17 | frb | 300-325 is what I believe he means |
| 05:45.21 | canllaith | The lowest I've managed to get KDE running decently on was 64MB |
| 05:46.51 | ysm | yeah, typo |
| 05:47.17 | canllaith | It was only 6 months ago I was doing all my work on a 500MHz/256MB |
| 05:48.22 | canllaith | and KDE 3.3 |
| 05:48.32 | canllaith | Well actually, it was 128MB for a while then I bought it more memory. |
| 05:50.27 | frb | I'm down to 220M usage now, but I've seen it as high as 350 |
| 05:51.06 | frb | nevermind, I'm using 382 right now, I was looking at the wrong box |
| 05:51.56 | frb | ok, why does kcheckgmail take 12M unshared? |
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| 06:00.09 | canllaith | What are you checking though, including buffers/cache? |
| 06:00.22 | canllaith | If you're not hugely swapping out ignore how much memory is in use. |
| 06:00.27 | frb | Res - share = 13M now |
| 06:00.48 | frb | virt is 57M, I ignore that one though |
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| 06:03.35 | frb | if I take a sum of the top 50 processes, the virt = 1.3G |
| 06:04.04 | frb | including buffers, I'm using a total of 990M ram, so virt is total crack |
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| 06:39.08 | torham | I am having a problem writing a data dvd, K3B acts like everything is perfect, even verifies the CD is written correctly, but I can't mount the disk. The only thing that stands out in the log is this: :-[ CLOSE SESSION failed with SK=2h/ASC=04h/ACQ=07h]: Resource temporarily unavailable |
| 06:40.22 | IceD^ | so it can't close session |
| 06:40.26 | IceD^ | report bug |
| 06:41.41 | torham | well I don't think it is k3b's fault... |
| 06:41.52 | torham | happens with other burning software as well |
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| 06:42.36 | IceD^ | sure |
| 06:42.53 | IceD^ | it's probably fault of the underlying tool |
| 06:43.02 | IceD^ | which is used to write your dvd |
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| 06:43.40 | IceD^ | but I think it's OK to report bug to k3b's bugzilla |
| 06:43.41 | torham | yeah it happened in gnomebaker too |
| 06:45.22 | IceD^ | in this case you can take a look whcih tool is used to burn cd |
| 06:45.32 | IceD^ | and which options used |
| 06:45.43 | IceD^ | and report bug to that tool dev |
| 06:45.54 | IceD^ | don't forget to specify as much info about your system as possible |
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| 07:29.21 | hanseatic | hi |
| 07:29.24 | hanseatic | how can I "rotate" a kspread table, so that the colums become rows and the rows colums? |
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| 07:35.55 | IceD^ | hanseatic: hmm |
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| 07:36.04 | IceD^ | hanseatic: expor | script | import |
| 07:36.12 | IceD^ | or, probably, you can use dcop |
| 07:36.15 | hanseatic | export to what? |
| 07:36.22 | hanseatic | dcop? |
| 07:36.57 | IceD^ | export to tab separated text e.g. |
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| 07:37.05 | IceD^ | yes, dcop |
| 07:37.13 | IceD^ | run kdcop |
| 07:39.25 | IceD^ | unfortunately there is no any kind of internal scripting language :( |
| 07:40.12 | hanseatic | hmm... im not a coder :o( |
| 07:40.46 | hanseatic | guess i'll have to copy my sheet by hand... |
| 07:41.22 | IceD^ | dcop isn't something related to coding |
| 07:41.31 | hanseatic | I need to copy&paste quiet a few relative cells by hand... |
| 07:41.54 | hanseatic | however one sheet i need to refer to is horizontel, the others are vertical |
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| 07:44.52 | kW_ | test |
| 07:47.23 | IceD^ | kW_: not passed |
| 07:47.34 | kW_ | oh |
| 07:48.32 | slayerbob | :o |
| 07:48.36 | slayerbob | what am i doing here ? |
| 07:48.39 | slayerbob | oh well |
| 07:49.01 | slayerbob | whoever wrote the battery applet thingo for kicker, i love the "no power source" thing that it does :P |
| 07:49.05 | slayerbob | it is classic :P |
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| 07:53.09 | spiral | hi |
| 07:53.46 | hanseatic | can the IF function of kspread refer to a text? |
| 07:54.30 | hanseatic | and may i use wildcards? |
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| 08:20.25 | *** topic/#kde by ChanServ -> tons of people are travelling for akademy, if nobody answers, try again tomorrow | anoncvs is BACK | KDE 3.4.2 is out: http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-3.4.2.php | KDE FAQ: http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/faq/ - The answer to your question might already be here! | Please don't flood the channel, use a paste service: http://rafb.net/paste | Please state your distribution and KDE version when asking questions | Preview featu |
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| 08:47.33 | kW_ | Hello |
| 08:48.15 | kW_ | does anybody know a KDE application which enables the user to log in to remote hosts (using ssh) using bookmarks? |
| 08:49.18 | tbscope | Konqueror? |
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| 08:51.01 | kW_ | is it possible to log into remote hosts (for a ssh terminal session) using kde? |
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| 08:51.09 | kW_ | is it possible to log into remote hosts (for a ssh terminal session) using konqueror? |
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| 08:51.32 | thechris | kW_: why not use konsole? |
| 08:51.36 | MarcoPolo | thechris: i finally succeeded in solving my problem. As you said it was a udev problem, I had to update all config files |
| 08:51.41 | MarcoPolo | thechris: thanks for your help ! |
| 08:51.43 | MarcoPolo | :) |
| 08:51.47 | thechris | not a problem |
| 08:51.52 | kW_ | thechris: Konsole has bookmarks, but only directory bookmarks on the local host |
| 08:51.57 | thechris | i personally have had many udev issues |
| 08:52.18 | MarcoPolo | I just have one problem left "the KDE mediamanager is not running" |
| 08:52.29 | MarcoPolo | but it should be a hal problem or something like that i suppose :-) |
| 08:52.35 | thechris | no clue. that one sounds like a KDE issue |
| 08:52.43 | thechris | oh, thats right |
| 08:52.47 | MarcoPolo | well I have to go, thanks again ! |
| 08:52.54 | thechris | MarcoPolo: emerge ivman |
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| 09:21.56 | pinotree | hey PhilRod =) |
| 09:23.18 | PhilRod | morning pinotree :-) |
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| 09:46.24 | oGALAXYo | moin |
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| 10:06.30 | Zaki | hi |
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| 10:06.50 | Zaki | where does kde store the configuration for Keyboard Layout tool? |
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| 10:08.25 | Zaki | control center->regional->keyboard layouts |
| 10:08.35 | Zaki | in which file is it stored? |
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| 10:12.14 | PhilRod | Zaki: somewhere in ~/.kde/share/config . I'm not sure where exactly - grep is your friend |
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| 10:13.06 | Zaki | PhilRod, grep for what? |
| 10:13.17 | Zaki | grep keyboard ? |
| 10:14.00 | PhilRod | yeah, maybe - or layout, or your language code |
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| 10:15.57 | Zaki | it's here: ~/.kde/share/config/kxkbrc |
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| 10:18.14 | philiKON | when you make a desktop link to a console program and check the "run in terminal" box, is it possible to not have the terminal close automatically when the program exits? |
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| 10:40.08 | DrZoot | anyone know if i can make debian packages directly from the subversion source? are the deb bits kept with the kde svn sources or somewhere else? |
| 10:41.31 | pino|akademy | DrZoot: there should be the debina directory in every kde package, but i don't know if they're updated |
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| 10:42.30 | DrZoot | pino|akademy: i really only want the major packages, so i might give it a go |
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| 10:46.15 | kikov | ouch, topic broken :) |
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| 10:47.33 | PhilRod | kikov: oh yeah - mention it again in an hour or so and I'll fix it :-) (lunchtime now) |
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| 10:48.18 | kikov | hehe |
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| 10:57.30 | mg | (kde3.4.1) I need help with protocols association, man:// opens gnome-help and I don't know how to fix tha :( |
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| 11:12.13 | [-D7-] | hello |
| 11:12.32 | [-D7-] | how I can activate artsd like a real-time process ? |
| 11:13.12 | [-D7-] | it appears a error message saying that artswrapper doesn't exist or is not activate |
| 11:13.27 | [-D7-] | ls -lrt /usr/bin/artswrapper |
| 11:13.28 | [-D7-] | -rwsr-sr-x 1 root root 6192 jul 26 15:30 /usr/bin/artswrapper |
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| 11:27.57 | gcosmin | some one online? |
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| 11:29.03 | dystopianray | i am online |
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| 11:30.31 | wilsby | I am attempting to get my media:/ ioslave in kde-3.4.1 to work nicely... I am 50% there.... |
| 11:30.43 | mobtek | heh try 3.4.2 :) |
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| 11:31.20 | oGALAXYo | people still use 3.4 ? |
| 11:31.30 | wilsby | My system automatically mounts my media for some reason... and although I can access it directly. I can not access the device with media:/ |
| 11:31.45 | wilsby | I was wondering what is causing devices I plug in to automatically mount |
| 11:31.48 | wilsby | any ideas? |
| 11:31.55 | wilsby | I have both hal and dbus installed and working |
| 11:32.08 | wilsby | does hald mount stuff automatically? |
| 11:32.16 | oGALAXYo | thats the reason why it automatically mounts your media |
| 11:32.21 | oGALAXYo | HAL and DBUS |
| 11:32.35 | oGALAXYo | probably udev and hotplug involved as well |
| 11:32.50 | wilsby | ah, I thought that hal just detected new media... ie.. it doesn't actually mount it... just sends a signal over dbus |
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| 11:33.07 | wilsby | hmmm. so hal does the mounting too? |
| 11:33.27 | oGALAXYo | dunno, i dont use either hal, nor do i use dbus, nor do i use udev or hotplug. |
| 11:33.46 | oGALAXYo | sadly with upcoming kernel versions i am forced to use udev.. but then i try to limit it to udev only. |
| 11:33.54 | wilsby | hmm. any ides why the devices appear and disapear correctly under media:/ ioslave but I can't actually view the files within them? |
| 11:33.56 | oGALAXYo | everything else i consider 'hacks' |
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| 11:34.43 | wilsby | oGALAXYo, don't you think the implementation is very good? |
| 11:34.59 | cormorano | hi @ll |
| 11:35.10 | wilsby | hald with hotplug and sys can pick up anything... |
| 11:35.12 | wilsby | very solid |
| 11:35.24 | wilsby | is udev not? |
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| 11:36.11 | dystopianray | mounting my usb flash drive through hal makes it so slow =/ |
| 11:36.21 | dystopianray | becuase it makes it use the 'sync' mount option |
| 11:36.42 | oGALAXYo | wilsby: no the implementation is bad but thats my personal opinion... |
| 11:36.56 | wilsby | dystopianray, you can configure the entries put into fstab... |
| 11:37.05 | wilsby | to stop it using the sync option |
| 11:37.11 | oGALAXYo | wilsby: i understand the idea behind it and somehow its probably a good 'temporarely' solution though its definately nothing that should be considered a 'sane' way.. |
| 11:37.55 | wilsby | oGALAXYo, hotplug provides the notifications from the kernel side, hal dbus provide the userspace tools.. |
| 11:38.00 | dystopianray | wilsby: where can i find some documentation on that? I sort of did it to get my ipod mounting properly |
| 11:38.07 | wilsby | the only other way is to make the kernel handle it all... |
| 11:38.20 | wilsby | (which really would suck) |
| 11:38.38 | oGALAXYo | wilsby: a correct way to implement this would be a 'microkernel' architecture such as hurd for example. you have a full messaging IPC system embedded in the kernel which sents messages to userland... you avoid the necessarity of stuff like /dev /proc /sys.. you also dont need hacks such as hal, udev, hotplug or even dbus (while i still consider dbus as the right way).. |
| 11:38.52 | wilsby | unfortunately, nobody has come up with a better way yet |
| 11:39.20 | oGALAXYo | wilsby: no need to tell me what hotplug is good for.. i understand the theoretics behind it and the implementation still sucks.. its a hack.. compared to other kernels that existed 20 years ago and did these things much better.. see amiga kernel for example. |
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| 11:40.05 | wilsby | how did the amiga kernel do it? was the amiga kernel a microkernel? |
| 11:40.10 | oGALAXYo | yes |
| 11:40.39 | wilsby | so the reason you consider it a hack is because of the way messages are passed? |
| 11:41.06 | oGALAXYo | the entire microkernel was the EXEC part of it. which basicly was an IPC mechanism.. the rom otoh was bigger consistet of different libraries too... but the exec was what did all the stuff.. you could write libraries, write userland devices and they all communicate through the IPC system from the exec kernel part. |
| 11:41.43 | wilsby | this is really just a debate about the merits of a microkernel vs that of a monolithic kernel |
| 11:42.22 | oGALAXYo | wilsby: yes more or less.. it gives me the impression that the things haven't been though through.. all the implementations of its own.. and then bundled and considered good.. but in reality its not.. i would consider dbus build in kernel a better solution, it would gretly remove the necessarity of dev entries, proc entries, sys entries and the other stuff such as hotplug and udev.. |
| 11:42.35 | wilsby | maybe a better way for IPC between userspace and kernel IS needed under linux. |
| 11:42.42 | oGALAXYo | you can put an ipc system in a monolithyic kernel too |
| 11:43.23 | wilsby | hmmm, file descriptors? |
| 11:43.38 | oGALAXYo | no. |
| 11:43.42 | wilsby | handles,.. rather |
| 11:43.54 | wilsby | either that or sys-calls |
| 11:44.02 | wilsby | I prefer handles personally |
| 11:44.15 | oGALAXYo | just messages.. build up a message structure and pass the messages in a queue. where they are then dealt with.. one message after another.. sent, reply, wait... |
| 11:44.51 | oGALAXYo | plugin a new usb stick and a message is being initiated, sent to the queue and then being dealt with. e.g. desktop gets a hint and then replies to it.. |
| 11:44.53 | wilsby | so maybe let the kernel interface directly with dbus... |
| 11:44.58 | oGALAXYo | yes |
| 11:45.08 | wilsby | and then hald would listen to dbus... |
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| 11:45.14 | oGALAXYo | no |
| 11:45.15 | oGALAXYo | no hal |
| 11:45.19 | oGALAXYo | you dont need that anymore. |
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| 11:45.30 | oGALAXYo | the hardware abstraction layer is already part of most kernels. |
| 11:45.38 | oGALAXYo | no need for a separate hald |
| 11:45.41 | oGALAXYo | thats 'crap' |
| 11:45.46 | wilsby | hmmm, so the kernel would need to provide ALL the relevant information about the device? |
| 11:46.05 | oGALAXYo | yes, this info is then passed over the IPC system |
| 11:46.12 | wilsby | dbus |
| 11:46.17 | oGALAXYo | hardware vendor, type, etc.. |
| 11:46.49 | oGALAXYo | as a message... depending on what kind of message it is you sent the correct 'message' structure. |
| 11:47.08 | oGALAXYo | worked perfectly on amiga and didnt caused any overhead either.. |
| 11:47.17 | oGALAXYo | ok need to visit the toilet quite urgently :) afk for some mins. |
| 11:47.23 | wilsby | yes, is there a project to integrate a message bus into linux? |
| 11:47.50 | wilsby | I mean inteface a userspace message bus directly into the kernel |
| 11:48.08 | wilsby | but I don't understand why it would be better doing this in kernel space than userspace |
| 11:48.57 | wilsby | linux should be as preemtible as possible |
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| 12:20.59 | CrumbPup | hello, my kweather has recently stopped displaying thesunshine/rainy icons. anyone else having this problem that knows afix? |
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| 12:45.29 | unholy | The attempt to start sending the message content failed. The server responded: "RCPT first (#5.5.1)" |
| 12:45.29 | unholy | The message will stay in the 'outbox' folder until..." |
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| 12:51.57 | CrumbPup | who knowing a good place to get kde desktop pictures for free, webshots make me pay for all the good ones |
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| 12:53.38 | elcuco | hi |
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| 13:08.53 | solus | how come Kate's regexp search doesn t match \n characters? |
| 13:10.11 | ponto | solus: isn't $ end of line? |
| 13:10.48 | solus | $ is usually end of phrase |
| 13:11.29 | whirm | CrumbPup: you mean wallpapers? |
| 13:11.32 | solus | but kate seems to think its end of line |
| 13:12.27 | CrumbPup | whirm yes! |
| 13:12.39 | CrumbPup | I put to the webshots and I can't have gthe baby polar bear :/ |
| 13:13.30 | solus | the problem comes to when I want to replace a newline with two newlines for example |
| 13:13.53 | whirm | then: http://www.kde-look.org , http://www.deviantart.com/ , http://www.digitalblasphemy.com/ |
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| 13:15.55 | CrumbPup | thanks too much whirm :) |
| 13:16.06 | CrumbPup | I hope so they have cute animals and flowers |
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| 13:16.09 | nkour | hi |
| 13:16.16 | nkour | I have a problem ONLY with the run dialog of KDE |
| 13:16.31 | nkour | http://trac.gajim.org/ticket/760 |
| 13:16.37 | whirm | want flowers and animals?, I think I have a pair done by me.. |
| 13:16.52 | whirm | one moment |
| 13:17.59 | CrumbPup | ok |
| 13:18.05 | CrumbPup | can I private message you? |
| 13:18.16 | whirm | yes |
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| 13:19.24 | ponto | solus: i guess the problem is that kate works line based |
| 13:23.40 | [-D7-] | hello |
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| 13:24.00 | [-D7-] | in KSCD, the audio backend list appears empty |
| 13:24.36 | annma | and you hace a CD in? |
| 13:24.44 | [-D7-] | yes |
| 13:24.56 | annma | what kde version? |
| 13:25.07 | [-D7-] | but I'm trying digital extraction |
| 13:25.29 | PhilRod | nkour: more information needed - do other apps run from the minicli ("run dialog")? does gajim run from konsole? |
| 13:25.42 | PhilRod | oh, and what distro? |
| 13:25.43 | [-D7-] | annma, kdemultimedia-3.4.2-0.fc4.1 |
| 13:25.51 | nkour | PhilRod, yes it runs from console. gajim is a bash script |
| 13:26.43 | nkour | PhilRod, it's not distro specific. the script http://trac.gajim.org/file/trunk/scripts/gajim |
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| 13:27.11 | [-D7-] | with anothers players ( xmms ), run right with artsd |
| 13:27.38 | nkour | PhilRod, which launches gajim.py (which is also a bash script) http://trac.gajim.org/file/trunk/src/gajim.py |
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| 13:28.41 | PhilRod | nkour: what about other commands? do they run correctly from the minicli? |
| 13:28.50 | nkour | PhilRod, yes |
| 13:29.01 | nkour | PhilRod, and those scripts run ok in xfce4 and gnome run dilaogs |
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| 13:29.16 | nkour | I mean 'gajim' first bash script whichs launches the other etc |
| 13:29.57 | PhilRod | what does the script do? |
| 13:30.28 | PhilRod | nvm |
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| 13:31.17 | [-D7-] | annma, ? |
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| 13:31.42 | annma | not sure what your problem is, Doktoreas |
| 13:31.47 | annma | [-D7-]: |
| 13:32.07 | annma | having [ in a nick is annoying, by the way |
| 13:32.47 | [-D7-] | annma, sure ...I always think to change it but never remember it |
| 13:34.44 | nkour | PhilRod, http://trac.gajim.org/file/trunk/scripts/gajim launches http://trac.gajim.org/file/trunk/src/gajim.py. the latter is a bash script too which has an extra cool line: |
| 13:35.08 | nkour | PhilRod, exec python -OOt "$0" ${1+"$@"} |
| 13:35.18 | Shootdown | hello? |
| 13:35.26 | Shootdown | annma, better ? |
| 13:35.27 | nkour | PhilRod, apparently minicli is a bad boy |
| 13:36.20 | annma | Shootdown: then explain better what you are trying to do |
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| 13:38.12 | Shootdown | annma, I want yo play a CD Audio with KSCD using direct digital extraction , but , although it reads right the CD tracks, doesn't sound nothing |
| 13:38.39 | annma | what is digital extraction? |
| 13:38.44 | Shootdown | annma, I trying to set up KSCD but the audio backend list is empty |
| 13:39.17 | PhilRod | Shootdown: what distro? |
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| 13:40.14 | Shootdown | annma, sorry for my poor English ...It's to play using CD --> CPU --> Soundcard |
| 13:40.16 | annma | FC4 |
| 13:40.21 | Shootdown | yes, FC4 |
| 13:41.08 | Shootdown | AnalogTek, it's possible send analogic signal from CD drive to soundcard |
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| 13:41.35 | annma | hmm |
| 13:41.55 | annma | why is it good to do so versus reading the CD normally? |
| 13:41.56 | AnalogTek | Shootdown: yes, via direct connection between the two (the audio output to the audio card from the disc drive). |
| 13:43.05 | Shootdown | annma, I didnt say that was better :-P ...the question is I haven't the cable from CD drive to soundcard :-) |
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| 13:43.28 | AnalogTek | ah! ;) |
| 13:43.29 | annma | pffff |
| 13:43.33 | Shootdown | :-P |
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| 13:43.47 | Shootdown | indeed, it's worse |
| 13:44.04 | AnalogTek | yes, more CPU loading, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.... |
| 13:44.10 | Shootdown | because spend CPU |
| 13:44.18 | Shootdown | exactly |
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| 13:47.39 | Shootdown | dde ? |
| 13:47.57 | DigitalTek | Direct Digital Extraction (isn't that what you called it?) |
| 13:48.06 | Shootdown | yes :-) |
| 13:49.52 | annma | lol |
| 13:51.28 | AnalogTek | (To the tune of "intruder alert! intruder alert!" from the old arcade game) identity crisis! identity crisis! |
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| 13:56.14 | nkour | PhilRod, so? |
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| 13:57.05 | PhilRod | nkour: no idea, sorry - you could try twiddling that exec line, but I don't really know |
| 13:57.21 | nkour | PhilRod, anyways it's a kde bug |
| 13:57.29 | nkour | I do not use kde not have bugzilla acct |
| 13:57.34 | nkour | I'll aks the user to report against kde |
| 13:57.39 | PhilRod | ok |
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| 14:07.06 | BlackBsd | anybody using gentoo, try going to the split ebuilds yet? |
| 14:08.03 | malv | weren't they supposed to be removing arts in 4.0? |
| 14:08.45 | BlackBsd | thats what i heard |
| 14:08.48 | grepper | BlackBsd: nope, how do you do that ? |
| 14:08.54 | malv | http://developer.kde.org/development-versions/kde-4.0-features.html |
| 14:08.59 | malv | arts is still listed in there |
| 14:09.51 | BlackBsd | grepper, basicly* you would emerge -C kdenetwork and emerge kdenetwork-meta |
| 14:09.54 | BlackBsd | for example |
| 14:10.04 | BlackBsd | to get everything from kdenetwork |
| 14:10.12 | BlackBsd | or you can get just the programs u want |
| 14:10.23 | grepper | ah, ok |
| 14:10.26 | BlackBsd | by emerging just the app |
| 14:10.41 | BlackBsd | http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/kde-split-ebuilds.xml |
| 14:10.45 | PhilRod | ~arts-kde4 |
| 14:10.46 | apt | arts is unmaintained, for KDE 4 (and not before) there will probably be a backend independent architecture allowing you to choose what sound engine (or none) to use via an abstracted API, if you want to know more, you should read the 5 or 6 hundred post long thread on the kde-multimedia mailing list archives |
| 14:11.08 | malv | ok, sounds good |
| 14:11.13 | PhilRod | re gentoo ebuilds: do yourself a favour and install whole KDE modules |
| 14:11.16 | PhilRod | seriously |
| 14:11.51 | BlackBsd | ha? |
| 14:13.39 | BlackBsd | well i installed just ksnapshot from kdegraphics, and so far i havent came to any issues |
| 14:14.36 | BlackBsd | i mean i use acroread for pdf's and i dont know what kview is used for. |
| 14:14.55 | BlackBsd | and i dont need kruler |
| 14:14.59 | PhilRod | as long as you don't split up kdebase |
| 14:15.56 | BlackBsd | does one depend on others? |
| 14:16.02 | BlackBsd | in kdebase i mean |
| 14:16.06 | PhilRod | yes |
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| 14:40.32 | kW_ | test |
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| 14:41.09 | Latem | ahh |
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| 14:51.47 | kW_ | Does anybody know how to change the "default browser" for http URLs (which are clicked on in Kopete) |
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| 14:52.32 | PhilRod | FAQ |
| 14:52.37 | PhilRod | (see topic |
| 14:52.38 | PhilRod | ) |
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| 15:35.14 | _fer_ | hello |
| 15:35.25 | unpaid | hi |
| 15:35.59 | annma | unpaid: what source did you get? |
| 15:37.03 | annma | ? |
| 15:37.10 | annma | can you answer the questions? |
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| 15:38.01 | unpaid | what source? dc-0.3.3/valknut-0.3.3 |
| 15:38.20 | unpaid | from http://dcgui.berlios.de i suppose |
| 15:39.00 | annma | why did not you use a debian package? |
| 15:40.14 | annma | latest I see is 0.3.7 |
| 15:40.17 | unpaid | it didnt work properly, i thought compiling might help |
| 15:40.25 | annma | so well, I cannot help you |
| 15:40.35 | annma | if I don't have the same, I cannot try it |
| 15:40.41 | annma | you have to mail the devels |
| 15:41.12 | unpaid | ok... just thought maybe someone had seen the error before |
| 15:41.24 | unpaid | you got any idea where size_t is defined? |
| 15:41.35 | annma | why is your source so old? |
| 15:41.46 | annma | http://developer.berlios.de/project/showfiles.php?group_id=370&release_id=4811 |
| 15:41.49 | annma | look here |
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| 15:42.01 | annma | from 0.3.4 to 0.3.7 |
| 15:42.07 | annma | no 0.3.3 |
| 15:42.46 | annma | try the latest one |
| 15:42.55 | unpaid | ill try =) |
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| 15:43.27 | annma | did you install your knoppix? |
| 15:43.54 | unpaid | yep |
| 15:44.09 | annma | knoppix installed is difficult to maintain |
| 15:44.15 | annma | maybe that's why |
| 15:44.22 | annma | it's not a distribution as such |
| 15:44.34 | annma | do you have the devel packages for kdelibs? |
| 15:44.36 | annma | and qt? |
| 15:44.59 | annma | some qt-devel.deb and some kdelibs-devel.deb |
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| 15:45.41 | unpaid | well i would have understood the error like "lib xyz not found" :) |
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| 15:46.10 | annma | those outside kde apps are maybe not well built |
| 15:46.32 | annma | I did not try it so I don't know |
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| 15:46.45 | annma | in KDE official modules we have sane outputs |
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| 15:48.16 | annma | unpaid: compiling stuff is for advanced users |
| 15:48.17 | kkrizka | hi guys, how do I get timidity run with the kde? |
| 15:48.23 | annma | run? |
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| 15:48.36 | annma | what problem doyou have with it? |
| 15:48.49 | kkrizka | annma: well, more like use |
| 15:49.01 | kkrizka | annma: it's running well, I see the ports when I run aplaymidi -l |
| 15:49.05 | unpaid | annma: how do i advance? ;) |
| 15:49.13 | kkrizka | but when I try playing it with aplaymidi I get no sound |
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| 15:49.24 | kkrizka | killing arts fixes that |
| 15:49.30 | annma | unpaid: install all the devel packages for qt and kdelibs as first step |
| 15:49.30 | kkrizka | and kmidi dosn't work eighter |
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| 15:50.41 | lasindi | Just out of curiosity, does anyone know how many lines of code are in KDE? |
| 15:50.57 | annma | lasindi: depends how you define kde first |
| 15:50.57 | PhilRod | 3.8m was quoted today |
| 15:51.08 | annma | PhilRod: all modules? |
| 15:51.19 | PhilRod | annma: I don't know |
| 15:51.32 | PhilRod | Dirk M mentioned it as part of his talk |
| 15:51.45 | lasindi | PhilRod, thanks, would you happen to have a link? |
| 15:52.06 | annma | lasindi: when saying that you must precise what KDE is |
| 15:52.36 | annma | I guess it might be all KDE code in svn repository for kde 3.5 branch for example |
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| 15:52.49 | PhilRod | lasindi: no - it was just mentioned in a talk at the kde user's conference this morning |
| 15:52.50 | lasindi | annma, yeah I know, that's why I'm looking for more info with a URL. |
| 15:52.54 | pussfeller | any one else having flakey behavior from Kontact on checking imap accounts over time? |
| 15:53.39 | pussfeller | like right now, it will check sub folders, but not the main INBOX |
| 15:54.00 | unpaid | hmm.. thanks so far =) |
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| 15:54.31 | annma | unpaid: then ask in #debian-kde for more info |
| 15:56.02 | annma | PhilRod: I did not know you are at akademy!!! |
| 15:56.30 | pinotree | annma: he's just went out of the room |
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| 15:59.01 | PhilRod | ...and then walked back in because the talk is delayed |
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| 15:59.35 | pinotree | PhilRod: ;-) |
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| 15:59.48 | annma | :) |
| 16:01.15 | Tm_T | hullo |
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| 16:01.24 | Crissi | hi |
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| 16:01.41 | Tm_T | ka annma o/ |
| 16:02.02 | Crissi | http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/kde-3.4.2/ is still empty... when it will be filled in? its released a long time.... |
| 16:02.34 | Tm_T | :/ |
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| 16:02.47 | Tm_T | I'm glad there's Kubuntu packages =) |
| 16:03.20 | LionKMP | Hi! Can someone please help: my menus and context menus are not showing the actually installed programs. Guys on #mandriva said this is a know KDE problem. |
| 16:03.48 | dererk | Hi everyone... Somebody ask me in other channel if exists any Kde Irc channel on spanish, Does it? |
| 16:03.52 | LionKMP | e.g. many old progarms are still visible in "Open with.." context menus. I tried to delete ~users/.kde, no help. |
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| 16:04.59 | LionKMP | kde 4.3 |
| 16:05.02 | LionKMP | 3.4 :-D |
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| 16:22.33 | kW_ | Is it possible with amaroK to sort files by filename (without pathname) and to display the files's filenames? |
| 16:26.52 | Tm_T | kW_: #amarok ;) |
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| 17:31.45 | Tm_T | looks like akademy silenced #kde =) |
| 17:32.01 | pinotree | eheh |
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| 17:34.09 | annma | hi Tm_T :) |
| 17:34.12 | annma | TNT |
| 17:34.17 | annma | you're dynamite |
| 17:35.01 | annma | lol |
| 17:35.07 | Tm_T | =) |
| 17:35.09 | pinotree | annma: am imright? |
| 17:35.26 | annma | hmm, I may look so |
| 17:35.35 | annma | but in reality, not really |
| 17:36.14 | Tm_T | annma: what's up? |
| 17:36.54 | Tm_T | annma: and yes I can be your dynamite ;--P |
| 17:37.12 | annma | lol |
| 17:37.24 | annma | I am trying to find out what's happening in aKademy |
| 17:37.42 | Tm_T | uh |
| 17:38.02 | Tm_T | any luck so far? |
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| 17:38.32 | Tm_T | annma: as you can see, I do have lots of sense of (bad)humour |
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| 17:38.53 | annma | ;) not bad |
| 17:40.18 | Tm_T | yeah, as long as other people understand it as humour |
| 17:40.50 | annma | I am a quick laugher, Tm_T |
| 17:41.08 | annma | my brothers make jokes and my sisters and me used to laugh like crazy |
| 17:41.13 | annma | make/made |
| 17:41.15 | Tm_T | =) |
| 17:42.02 | Tm_T | good, I think we get along well then ;) |
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| 17:54.22 | werner | hi |
| 17:55.46 | PhilRod | hi werner |
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| 17:58.20 | PhilRod | annma: do you have a minute to take a look at an email for me? |
| 17:58.26 | annma | yes |
| 17:58.37 | annma | do you want to forward it to me? |
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| 17:58.56 | PhilRod | http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-doc-english&m=112524913701252&w=2 |
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| 17:59.14 | PhilRod | I can't quite understand it well enough to tell whether it's a rant or a useful suggestion |
| 17:59.47 | PhilRod | (and also why on earth someone would send a message in !English to a mailing list *called* kde-doc-*ENGLISH*, but that's another story) |
| 18:00.16 | annma | he says that the FAQ should be based on keywords |
| 18:00.31 | annma | several keywords should relate to the same answer |
| 18:01.21 | annma | and he finishes by a KFind criticism |
| 18:01.32 | annma | that it does not work as it should |
| 18:01.54 | annma | not sure why he sent that to the list as he does not propose any useful thing |
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| 18:06.32 | PhilRod | I can't really tell the tone of it - is he ranting, or suggesting? |
| 18:06.47 | annma | ranting |
| 18:06.58 | PhilRod | ok |
| 18:07.20 | annma | he starts like saying the FAQ is not written from the point of vue of the user |
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| 18:20.53 | oggb4mp3 | I am trying to compile kdebase 3.4.2 from source and unsermake gives me these errors http://rafb.net/paste/results/x9MC0a72.html |
| 18:21.00 | oggb4mp3 | anybody have any ideas? |
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| 18:22.18 | annma | oggb4mp3: you compiled kdelibs first? |
| 18:22.21 | ods15 | I think someone broke kde-apps.org, it's giving invalid XML (and thus not opening in any browser that refuses to accept this...) |
| 18:22.31 | oggb4mp3 | annma: yes |
| 18:22.35 | oggb4mp3 | no problem |
| 18:22.41 | oggb4mp3 | I have done arts and kdelibs |
| 18:22.44 | PhilRod | oggb4mp3: it looks like you've well and truly b0rked something: more specifically, do you have more than one version of kde install? |
| 18:22.44 | ods15 | this is actually true for the entire family, kde-look.org, etc. - could someone check if it's just me |
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| 18:23.00 | oggb4mp3 | PhilRod: no |
| 18:23.16 | PhilRod | do you have two copies of unsermake? |
| 18:23.21 | oggb4mp3 | hmmm |
| 18:23.26 | oggb4mp3 | that's a possibility |
| 18:23.36 | oggb4mp3 | but automake gives me similar errors |
| 18:23.45 | oggb4mp3 | if I use that instead |
| 18:23.48 | annma | did you do unsermake before unsermake install? |
| 18:24.05 | oggb4mp3 | yes, compile finished fine |
| 18:24.05 | PhilRod | /usr/local/unsermake doesn't look like the place you'd put it if it wasn't from packages |
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| 18:24.32 | PhilRod | oggb4mp3: the usual questions: distro, where'd you get the source from, etc? |
| 18:24.54 | annma | oggb4mp3: usually you don;t have install errors except from permissions |
| 18:24.59 | oggb4mp3 | it is kde 3.4.2 source from kde.org |
| 18:25.03 | oggb4mp3 | on arch |
| 18:25.13 | oggb4mp3 | gcc 4.0.1 |
| 18:25.21 | annma | unsermake from where? |
| 18:25.25 | oggb4mp3 | svn |
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| 18:25.33 | annma | what svn? |
| 18:25.39 | oggb4mp3 | hold on |
| 18:25.47 | annma | the 2 you have |
| 18:26.12 | oggb4mp3 | 452854 from 2005-08-24 |
| 18:26.21 | annma | echo $PATH |
| 18:26.26 | annma | paste the result please |
| 18:26.55 | oggb4mp3 | http://rafb.net/paste/results/Aq7tNT24.html |
| 18:27.06 | annma | you could have pasted that |
| 18:27.15 | oggb4mp3 | habit |
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| 18:27.53 | annma | where is your svn unsermake source please? |
| 18:28.03 | annma | difficult to read in the pastebin |
| 18:28.17 | oggb4mp3 | I used rev 452854 |
| 18:28.28 | annma | what's the location of your svn unsermake source on your disk please? |
| 18:28.35 | oggb4mp3 | and it is in /usr/local/unsermake |
| 18:28.54 | oggb4mp3 | which is in the path |
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| 18:29.12 | annma | do unsermake in the source |
| 18:29.18 | annma | paste the first lines |
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| 18:29.39 | oggb4mp3 | $ unsermake |
| 18:29.39 | oggb4mp3 | no file Makefile present |
| 18:29.50 | oggb4mp3 | or you mean in the kdebase source |
| 18:29.54 | oggb4mp3 | sorry |
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| 18:31.23 | annma | oggb4mp3: in pastebin for first lines |
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| 18:31.44 | oggb4mp3 | $ unsermake |
| 18:31.44 | oggb4mp3 | kioslave/media/kdedmodule/Makefile.am: kded_mediamanager_la_LIBADD contains a module. This is not portable! |
| 18:31.44 | oggb4mp3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:32.25 | oggb4mp3 | wtf? |
| 18:32.30 | oggb4mp3 | this is weird |
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| 18:34.47 | oggb4mp3 | ./configure --prefix=/opt/kde --with-dpms \ |
| 18:34.47 | oggb4mp3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:34.55 | oggb4mp3 | that's my configure |
| 18:34.57 | annma | --enable-final? |
| 18:35.01 | annma | pfffffffff |
| 18:35.06 | oggb4mp3 | heh |
| 18:35.08 | annma | why do you set that |
| 18:35.09 | oggb4mp3 | Arch includes it |
| 18:35.19 | annma | and use unsermake |
| 18:35.22 | oggb4mp3 | I just did what they did in thier pkgbuild |
| 18:35.24 | annma | I tell you waht |
| 18:35.41 | annma | I use automake and do ./configure |
| 18:35.47 | annma | with full debug as I develop |
| 18:35.54 | annma | but nothing else |
| 18:36.12 | annma | unsermake should work for kdelibs although with -final it's not sure |
| 18:36.19 | annma | for kdebase I mean |
| 18:36.27 | annma | but other modules won't compile |
| 18:36.40 | annma | as unsermake is not the default for kde3 |
| 18:36.55 | annma | (as seen in the warning that flashes) |
| 18:37.09 | oggb4mp3 | it looks like --with-dpms is the default too |
| 18:37.20 | annma | what the hell is dpms? |
| 18:37.25 | oggb4mp3 | cuase ./configure --help only lists --without-dpms as an option |
| 18:37.26 | annma | and what is Arch? |
| 18:37.31 | oggb4mp3 | Arch Linux |
| 18:37.41 | annma | is that a sort of Gentoo? |
| 18:37.52 | annma | sorry about my ignorance |
| 18:37.56 | oggb4mp3 | well, kind of, but more like slackware then gentoo |
| 18:38.18 | oggb4mp3 | can install binary like slackwafre, or source like gentoo |
| 18:38.21 | Tm_T | oggb4mp3: just use deb distro ;) |
| 18:38.25 | annma | well, don't they have a channel support? |
| 18:38.40 | oggb4mp3 | well, they do, but the guys there have no clue |
| 18:38.45 | oggb4mp3 | it builds fine on their machines |
| 18:38.59 | oggb4mp3 | I thought maybe I was missing some library |
| 18:39.06 | annma | do they build all modules of 3.4.2 with unsermake/ |
| 18:39.23 | oggb4mp3 | no, they use automake, but I get these same errors with automake |
| 18:39.34 | annma | you should not |
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| 18:39.43 | annma | what does configure say? |
| 18:39.46 | oggb4mp3 | well, not exactly the same, but similar |
| 18:39.56 | annma | your system is messed then |
| 18:40.00 | oggb4mp3 | heh |
| 18:40.11 | oggb4mp3 | hmmm |
| 18:40.32 | oggb4mp3 | the only time I have ever had a problem compiling anything is this |
| 18:40.46 | oggb4mp3 | and kdelibs installed fine |
| 18:40.58 | oggb4mp3 | and the pre-packaged binaries from Arch work fine |
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| 18:41.11 | oggb4mp3 | oh well |
| 18:41.12 | Flendor | Hello. |
| 18:41.17 | annma | hi Flendor :) |
| 18:41.31 | pinotree | hey Flendor =) |
| 18:41.38 | Flendor | Hey there annma, pinotree! How are you? |
| 18:41.43 | pinotree | Flendor: malaga greets you :-D |
| 18:41.50 | Flendor | Malaga? Oooh, cool :) |
| 18:41.59 | Flendor | I've only been to an Aegean town for a week :/ |
| 18:42.08 | Tm_T | hi kids |
| 18:42.38 | Tm_T | :p |
| 18:42.38 | annma | Flendor: yes, pinotree is in Malaga! |
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| 18:42.39 | annma | for the KDE conference |
| 18:42.43 | annma | I am not, though |
| 18:42.49 | pinotree | =) |
| 18:42.50 | Flendor | Ooh, aKademy? |
| 18:42.55 | annma | yes |
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| 18:43.00 | annma | he is having fun! |
| 18:43.09 | Flendor | :) Lots of like-minded people would be nice.. |
| 18:43.13 | Flendor | ..I feel alone sometimes :/ |
| 18:43.34 | Flendor | I was planning to go to Scotland this August for a wedding; but couldn't.. |
| 18:43.52 | Flendor | Oh well. Back to topic - Do we have any new Plasma screenies? :D |
| 18:43.57 | Tm_T | I never been outside of Finland |
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| 18:44.14 | Flendor | I've been to Italy once, and that's it |
| 18:44.19 | Flendor | Might go to Germany for business |
| 18:45.29 | annma | Flendor: I don't think there are new things as the devel conference will start tomorrow |
| 18:45.43 | annma | then the hacking session -> will bring new kde4 stuff |
| 18:47.40 | MrGrim | I hate my monitor :/ |
| 18:47.45 | Flendor | Ooh :) |
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| 18:48.00 | MrGrim | just so you guys know :) |
| 18:48.02 | annma | I thought there would be a talk about plasma |
| 18:48.08 | annma | but seems not |
| 18:48.23 | Flendor | I don't like my radiation-emitting beast much either :/ |
| 18:49.36 | gmg9 | how can i chagge the blue background which appears before ksplash or behind of it as a background |
| 18:49.43 | gmg9 | ^change |
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| 18:50.53 | Flendor | Maybe there will be, annma? |
| 18:51.01 | Flendor | Is Mr. Seigo there? |
| 18:52.09 | lauri | Flendor: it *still* won't be released for a year or so |
| 18:52.21 | annma | lauri: it;s for kde4, no? |
| 18:52.31 | lauri | you understand that, right? so screenshots now may not have any relation to anything that ever gets actually released? |
| 18:52.40 | lauri | annma: yup |
| 18:52.52 | Flendor | Hey, I just want a taste, a sample, whatever |
| 18:52.56 | annma | kde4 technology is ow key in the talks |
| 18:52.58 | Tm_T | hi lauri |
| 18:53.00 | annma | low |
| 18:53.01 | Flendor | THings sound good, so I really wonder how they would look |
| 18:53.14 | annma | Flendor: you cannot have that yet |
| 18:53.25 | Flendor | OK, will stop bugging people then. :/ |
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| 18:55.07 | MrGrim | Flendor: get this... my monitor's brightness is fading and it needs adjustment regularly.. the red, green, and blue channels also have different curves so it needs color correction via individual gamma settings |
| 18:55.25 | Flendor | O~o How old is it? |
| 18:55.47 | MrGrim | 4 months ago after calibration my brightness was 75%, and my rgb gamma values were 1.8 2.15 2.45 |
| 18:55.49 | MrGrim | 4 months ago |
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| 18:56.05 | MrGrim | today I readjusted, and now it is at 90% brightness w/ rgb gamma of 2.55 2.95 3.3 |
| 18:56.09 | Flendor | Wow. |
| 18:56.13 | Flendor | Hey hello sredna! :) |
| 18:56.18 | MrGrim | it's almost 6 years old |
| 18:56.18 | gmg9 | any one plz help |
| 18:56.19 | Flendor | MrGrim - Get an LCD ;) |
| 18:56.21 | sredna | Hello :) |
| 18:56.31 | gmg9 | i really hate that blue screen |
| 18:56.35 | MrGrim | Flendor: I want to, but I refuse to until I can get that new hp 23" lcd :) |
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| 18:56.45 | sredna | gmg9: Which blue screen? |
| 18:57.01 | gmg9 | blue background which appears before ksplash or behind of it as a background |
| 18:57.04 | frb | gmg9: in suse anyway, you can use the control panel to change the kdm login stuff |
| 18:57.16 | Flendor | MrGrim - I decided on the Viewsonic VP191b, and was saving money.. then they pulled it from the market :/ |
| 18:57.16 | gmg9 | its not kdm |
| 18:57.45 | MrGrim | Flendor: that hp is awesome... high response time samsung panel.. 1920x1200... 16:10... 23" |
| 18:57.48 | MrGrim | sooooo beautiful |
| 18:57.49 | gmg9 | its the background that appears behind that splash screen |
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| 18:57.58 | gmg9 | an im on fc3 |
| 18:58.01 | sredna | gmg9: Are you using kdm? |
| 18:58.14 | gmg9 | no gdm |
| 18:58.14 | crs | Hello, can i use vim as editor in kdevelop? |
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| 18:58.17 | annma | crs: no |
| 18:58.19 | MrGrim | Flendor: the thing is I will not buy a monitor that forces me to drop my resolution, and I'm running at 1600x1200 |
| 18:58.29 | Flendor | Oh, 1920x1200 is nice.. I can only afford 19".. in fact, I don't have the money now; but I can save.. |
| 18:58.29 | annma | crs: kate or qteditor |
| 18:58.37 | crs | annma: not good ;/ |
| 18:58.41 | sredna | gmg9: It could be that you have a blue background that is visible until your wallpaper is loaded? |
| 18:58.44 | annma | good enough for me |
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| 18:58.48 | MrGrim | Flendor: I think there are some power problems w/ my monitor because at lower resolutions it gets a lot brighter.. as if there's too much of a power draw.. and the problem is getting worse |
| 18:58.55 | MrGrim | it also has an irritating high pitched whine |
| 18:59.03 | MrGrim | and lately I've heard it make clicking noises |
| 18:59.04 | sredna | Hi annma :-) |
| 18:59.10 | annma | hi sredna :))) |
| 18:59.11 | Flendor | Plus, I would feel bad about getting a very high end monitor now, because of this HDCP craziness.. |
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| 18:59.18 | gmg9 | sredna: yes |
| 18:59.31 | annma | lol :) |
| 18:59.42 | sredna | gmg9: In that case you could set another background color |
| 18:59.58 | gmg9 | how ? |
| 18:59.59 | Flendor | LOL Grim, whines and noises?? Maybe your monitor is haunted :) |
| 19:00.08 | sredna | gmg9: In the control center I'd say |
| 19:00.11 | MrGrim | Flendor: if somebody would make a decent 19" panel w/ 1600x1200 I'd be all over it, but my only options really are these large hires panels like the hp 23" and the dell 24" |
| 19:00.36 | Tm_T | money++ |
| 19:00.37 | Tm_T | :/ |
| 19:01.04 | Flendor | I'm sure they cost REALLY much.. |
| 19:01.08 | Tm_T | I will buy 19" crt next january |
| 19:01.13 | Flendor | I get only 250$per month :/ |
| 19:01.14 | MrGrim | less than a grand at least :P |
| 19:01.19 | Tm_T | to get 1600x1200 |
| 19:01.25 | gmg9 | sredna: i dont find any option for changinf that color in kcontrol |
| 19:01.27 | MrGrim | the dell you can snatch for $600 if you catch it at the right time |
| 19:01.30 | lauri | guys |
| 19:01.31 | MrGrim | dell does crazy ass coupons |
| 19:01.32 | lauri | this is a very nice conversation |
| 19:01.37 | MrGrim | it's also got an inch on the hp |
| 19:01.37 | Flendor | Try the Philips 109p4, I hear good things about it. |
| 19:01.39 | sredna | gmg9: The desktop appearance |
| 19:01.41 | lauri | but since it's happening in the middle of someone actually asking for on topic help |
| 19:01.41 | Tm_T | lauri: as always :/ |
| 19:01.43 | MrGrim | but the panel is of lower quality |
| 19:01.48 | lauri | perhaps you could move it to a query for a minute? |
| 19:01.55 | lauri | thank you |
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| 19:02.02 | sredna | Hi lauri :-) |
| 19:02.09 | lauri | hi sredna :) |
| 19:02.10 | pinotree | hey lauri =) |
| 19:02.11 | MrGrim | topic nazi :/ fine, afk |
| 19:02.33 | lauri | gee |
| 19:02.45 | lauri | let me know when you feel like apologising mrgrim |
| 19:02.48 | Tm_T | haha |
| 19:02.57 | MrGrim | will do |
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| 19:03.28 | lauri | sredna: you at akademy? |
| 19:03.42 | sredna | lauri: Nope, unfortunately :( |
| 19:03.58 | Tm_T | MrGrim: quicker is better |
| 19:04.00 | Tm_T | and if you wan't to call someone as nazi, I'm wating for ya |
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| 19:04.39 | Flendor | Good night. |
| 19:04.49 | Flendor | Have to sleep. |
| 19:04.53 | lauri | sredna: I'll meet you one of these days, instead of flying over the top of you every time |
| 19:05.05 | sredna | That wold be nice :) |
| 19:05.46 | sredna | Maybe, if I'm lucky and my job lasts, I'll be able to prticipate in next years meeting.. |
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| 19:05.54 | MrGrim | ppl call me a nazi sometimes... but I didn't call anyone a nazi |
| 19:06.03 | MrGrim | the adjetive topic modifies the meaning greatly |
| 19:06.17 | lauri | MrGrim: you did, and it was inappropriate, apologise, or go away |
| 19:06.24 | lauri | and no, it does not |
| 19:07.05 | MrGrim | I believe I know my intent better than you |
| 19:07.25 | lauri | I don't really care what your intent was |
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| 19:08.01 | lauri | but if you really want to push the point, do it elsewhere |
| 19:08.08 | lauri | or apologise |
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| 19:08.24 | MrGrim | so you're like one of those ppl that if someone were to ever compliment you, you'd take it as an insult despite their intent... intent is kinda of important.. you can read more into what I said if you wish |
| 19:08.28 | MrGrim | but that is your problem, and not mine |
| 19:08.49 | Tm_T | :/ |
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| 19:09.38 | *** topic/#kde by apokryphos -> tons of people are travelling for akademy, if nobody answers, try again tomorrow | anoncvs is BACK | KDE 3.4.2 is out: http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-3.4.2.php | KDE FAQ: http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/faq/ - The answer to your question might already be here! | Please don't flood the channel, use a paste service: http://rafb.net/paste | Please state your distribution and KDE version when asking questions | Preview featur |
| 19:09.39 | *** topic/#kde by ChanServ -> tons of people are travelling for akademy, if nobody answers, try again tomorrow | anoncvs is BACK | KDE 3.4.2 is out: http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-3.4.2.php | KDE FAQ: http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/faq/ - The answer to your question might already be here! | Please don't flood the channel, use a paste service: http://rafb.net/paste | Please state your distribution and KDE version when asking questions | Preview featu |
| 19:09.44 | lauri | just go away |
| 19:09.50 | apokryphos | geh |
| 19:09.58 | *** mode/#kde [-o lauri] by lauri |
| 19:10.25 | apokryphos | topic is too big 8) |
| 19:11.25 | *** topic/#kde by apokryphos -> tons of people are travelling for akademy, if nobody answers, try again tomorrow | anoncvs is BACK | KDE 3.4.2 is out: http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-3.4.2.php | KDE FAQ: http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/faq/ - The answer to your question might already be here! | Please don't flood the channel, use a paste service: http://rafb.net/paste | Please state your distribution and KDE version when asking questions |
| 19:11.25 | *** topic/#kde by ChanServ -> tons of people are travelling for akademy, if nobody answers, try again tomorrow | anoncvs is BACK | KDE 3.4.2 is out: http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-3.4.2.php | KDE FAQ: http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/faq/ - The answer to your question might already be here! | Please don't flood the channel, use a paste service: http://rafb.net/paste | Please state your distribution and KDE version when asking questions | Preview featu |
| 19:11.28 | lauri | it is rather |
| 19:11.35 | lauri | apokryphos: it's also locked |
| 19:11.39 | apokryphos | ahh |
| 19:12.07 | apokryphos | the "Preview features guide" part doesn't fit in.. tried to add that (well, then remove the incomplete part) |
| 19:12.09 | lauri | paste me in a query what you want to change it to (maybe we could drop the 3.4.2 is out bit) |
| 19:13.07 | apokryphos | lauri: currently it just has "| Preview featu"; figure that should be removed, probably :P. Or another part sacrificed. |
| 19:13.33 | Tm_T | btw what's that preview feature url we don't see now? |
| 19:13.48 | apokryphos | http://www.canllaith.org/articles.html |
| 19:14.22 | apokryphos | heh, topic also says anoncvs.. is it really anonCVS? Not svn? :P |
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| 19:15.38 | *** topic/#kde by annma -> tons of people are travelling for akademy, if nobody answers, try again tomorrow | anonsvn is BACK | KDE 3.4.2 is out: http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-3.4.2.php | KDE FAQ: http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/faq/ - The answer to your question might already be here! | Please don't flood the channel, use a paste service: http://rafb.net/paste | Please state your distribution and KDE version when asking questions |
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| 19:16.08 | *** topic/#kde by annma -> tons of people are travelling for akademy, if nobody answers, try again tomorrow | KDE 3.4.2 is out: http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-3.4.2.php | KDE FAQ: http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/faq/ - The answer to your question might already be here! | Please don't flood the channel, use a paste service: http://rafb.net/paste | Please state your distribution and KDE version when asking questions |
| 19:16.47 | apokryphos | annma: cool, thanks. :) |
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| 19:19.00 | Tm_T | apokryphos: thanks :) |
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| 19:40.24 | _frank | does anyone if it is possible to use kppp with the new isdn subsystem (misdn)? |
| 19:40.36 | _frank | know |
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| 20:26.54 | Phroziac | hi. |
| 20:27.58 | Phroziac | I'm using KDE 3.3 on Debian GNU/Linux 3.1 with kernel 2.6.10, and I'm using GAIM and GIMP under it. These programs have no tooltip text, but the tooltips are there. |
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| 20:31.08 | Tm_T | so you might need some gtk lbs maybe? |
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| 20:33.50 | Blissex | Phroziac: that should be done by the programs themselves, perhaps you need to enable it. |
| 20:33.53 | Phroziac | well, thing is it *used to* work. |
| 20:34.24 | Phroziac | Blissex: hmmm, wouldn't they not show the tooltip without text either? also, gaim is a new install. |
| 20:34.41 | Phroziac | i could try the gtk libs, i had some weird things happen when i upgraded to sarge, from 3.1 testing. |
| 20:35.04 | Blissex | Phroziac: in any case, investigate the 'Appearance&Themes:GTK Styles and Fonts' entry in the Control Centre/settings panel, that might help |
| 20:35.27 | Blissex | Phroziac: You can't run those apps withhout the GTK libs... |
| 20:35.53 | Phroziac | Blissex: weird. I could try reinstalling gnome though, apt is going to let me do it, and i see abiword comes with it, which also mysteriously dissapeared. |
| 20:36.28 | Blissex | Phroziac: neither the Gimp nor GAIM are really GNOME apps... |
| 20:36.38 | Phroziac | they aren't? |
| 20:36.50 | Phroziac | I don't have GTK styles and fonts in there. |
| 20:36.53 | Blissex | Phroziac: a lot of 'g....' apps are just GTK apps. |
| 20:37.05 | Phroziac | Blissex: Oh! *facepalm* |
| 20:37.07 | Blissex | Phroziac: I suspected as much as to 'GTK Styles and Fonts' |
| 20:37.25 | Blissex | Phroziac: wait a sec for the name of the package to install to get that. |
| 20:37.31 | Phroziac | ok. |
| 20:37.39 | Phroziac | i'm also going to re-apt gnome. |
| 20:37.59 | Blissex | Phroziac: it may not fix your tooltips, but it integrates GTK apps a lot better into KDE by generating suitable '~/.gtkrc-2.0' config files. |
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| 20:38.09 | Phroziac | i keep full installs of both for i don't know why ;) |
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| 20:57.53 | Tm_T | eeh! |
| 20:58.17 | Tm_T | http://www.canllaith.org/svn-features/22-06-05.html <- in Konqi part... |
| 20:58.33 | Tm_T | apple devs in aKademy? |
| 20:58.56 | Phroziac | Blissex: ok, reinstalling gnome didn't help, but....what's the package you were going to tell me about? |
| 20:59.25 | Blissex | Phroziac: sorrry, I forgot... |
| 20:59.28 | forlorn | Tm_T: there are nice juicy spanish apples |
| 20:59.36 | Phroziac | ok |
| 21:00.15 | Tm_T | forlorn: =) |
| 21:00.19 | Blissex | Phroziac: looking, it has a somewhat weird name I can never remember... |
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| 21:00.56 | Phroziac | ok |
| 21:01.16 | chrisag | What folder is unsermake under? |
| 21:01.55 | Blissex | Phroziac: gtk2-engines-gtk-qt |
| 21:02.28 | Phroziac | insert disc 13....hehehe. |
| 21:04.34 | Phroziac | Ok, i installed that. question is, how do i run it now ;) |
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| 21:05.42 | Alethes | god kword sucks |
| 21:05.48 | Alethes | that frames-based stuff just sucks |
| 21:07.11 | forlorn | Alethes: why does frames-based stuff suck? |
| 21:07.52 | Alethes | 'cause it's such a paradigm shift and requires a major change in the way I'm used to using _every_ other word processor app |
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| 21:09.22 | forlorn | Alethes: are you implying you can not do things the same way you did in other word processors, e.g. MS Word? |
| 21:09.35 | Alethes | as far as I can tell |
| 21:09.46 | Alethes | if I can, that'd be great |
| 21:09.48 | Alethes | I hope I'm wrong :) |
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| 21:10.08 | forlorn | what exactly are you missing? |
| 21:10.42 | Alethes | I just wanna be able to start typing and formatting etc without having to add frames for different parts of the document |
| 21:11.36 | Blissex | Alethes: but KWord does not require that... Scribus does, but it is as different thing. |
| 21:11.38 | forlorn | Alethes: well you can just have the normal main frame and not use any more frames |
| 21:11.51 | forlorn | and the normal one comes on by default |
| 21:11.52 | Alethes | forlorn: how? |
| 21:12.16 | Alethes | I start up kword and I can't type anything until I add a frame |
| 21:12.27 | forlorn | huh, which version are you using |
| 21:12.37 | Blissex | Alethes: when you create a document select the ''text oriented'' set of templates and choose something like 'A4' or 'Memo' for example. |
| 21:13.03 | forlorn | or even normal text will work, that's on by default |
| 21:13.10 | Alethes | ah ok |
| 21:13.11 | forlorn | opens straight like a ms word doc |
| 21:13.16 | Alethes | mine is doing layout oriented by default |
| 21:13.28 | Blissex | Alethes: for extra convenience and speed choose 'View:Text mode' |
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| 21:14.04 | Alethes | yay :D |
| 21:14.10 | Alethes | kword sucks a lot less now ;) |
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| 21:27.07 | kW | Hello, does anybody know how to declare another session as the default session in Konsole? |
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| 21:28.11 | annma | choose the session yu want as default |
| 21:28.22 | annma | Settings -> Save as Default |
| 21:28.30 | annma | will save it as default |
| 21:28.33 | Tm_T | oh |
| 21:28.41 | Tm_T | canllaith: ping |
| 21:30.00 | kW | annma: this does not seem to work |
| 21:30.05 | annma | no? |
| 21:30.10 | annma | what happens? |
| 21:30.31 | kW | annma: when I use "Ctrl+Alt+N" I still get the old session type (called "Befehlsfenster") |
| 21:30.49 | annma | why do you use Ctrl ALt N? |
| 21:31.11 | kW | this is the shortest way to create a new session? |
| 21:31.44 | annma | depends on your key bindings |
| 21:31.47 | annma | it works hwere |
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| 21:32.14 | annma | I just click on thesmall icon |
| 21:32.19 | kW | but even if I do not use "Ctrl+Alt+N" |
| 21:32.23 | annma | the new session is the new default I just set |
| 21:32.31 | annma | what is your distro? |
| 21:32.31 | kW | when I click the small icon, I get a "Befehlsfenster" session again |
| 21:32.36 | kW | suse 9.3 |
| 21:33.19 | annma | works well here, kde compiled from source |
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| 21:33.28 | annma | did you update recently? |
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| 21:34.55 | cognominal_ | hi, any way to get some javascript console on konaueror? |
| 21:35.02 | annma | kW: did you update recently to suse 9.3? |
| 21:35.08 | kW | annma: it is konsole belonging to kde 3.4.0 |
| 21:35.21 | annma | kW: can you answer the question please? |
| 21:35.24 | kW | I had been updating to suse 9.3 about 2..3 months ago |
| 21:35.31 | annma | and it never worked? |
| 21:35.49 | kW | I cannot remember, I'm now exploring features in more detail |
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| 21:38.45 | annma | try with a new user |
| 21:38.53 | kW | okay |
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| 21:42.05 | annma | what de sit do? |
| 21:42.11 | annma | what does it do? |
| 21:42.16 | kW | the same |
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| 21:42.29 | annma | look at Suse bugs then |
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| 21:42.31 | penguinboy | hello |
| 21:42.33 | kW | I just tried it with a brand new user |
| 21:42.47 | annma | how do you change the session? |
| 21:42.54 | penguinboy | a question.....games does not show up in my K Menu.....how can I add it????? |
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| 21:43.08 | kW | and with Konsole from KDE 3.4.2 |
| 21:43.33 | dubaddaao | how many people are @ akademy ? |
| 21:43.58 | annma | kW: in your current konsole |
| 21:44.04 | annma | what schema do you use? |
| 21:44.08 | kW | annma: using "K Menu/change user/start new session" |
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| 21:44.31 | annma | forget that |
| 21:44.39 | kW | you mean color schema? |
| 21:44.43 | annma | what schema do you use in your current opened konsole? |
| 21:44.52 | annma | look in Settings schema please |
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| 21:45.07 | annma | which oe is it? |
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| 21:45.10 | annma | one |
| 21:45.28 | kW | Konsole-Standard |
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| 21:46.02 | annma | change that to Green on Black |
| 21:46.22 | annma | then in Settings -> Save as Default |
| 21:46.43 | annma | then open a new konsole session with the small icon on the bttom left |
| 21:46.54 | kW | just did that |
| 21:46.54 | annma | is green on lck? |
| 21:47.06 | annma | is it green on black? |
| 21:47.13 | kW | the new "Shell No. 2" (in english) is green on black |
| 21:47.19 | annma | so see |
| 21:47.21 | kW | but it is called "Shell No. 2", not "A" |
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| 21:47.32 | annma | the save as default works |
| 21:47.37 | annma | A? |
| 21:47.37 | kW | or "A 2" |
| 21:47.44 | annma | why would it be called A2? |
| 21:47.46 | kW | I called a custom session type just "A" |
| 21:48.07 | annma | so if yuo have explained before that it's only the name that does not stay? |
| 21:48.33 | annma | where do you set that? |
| 21:48.41 | annma | the "A", where do you set that? |
| 21:48.55 | kW | I created a copy of "Befehlsfenster" named "A" and expected all new windows of type "A" be called "A", "A 2", "A 3" and so on |
| 21:49.03 | annma | ? |
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| 21:49.09 | annma | how did you create the copy? |
| 21:49.26 | annma | try answering precisely with what you did in konsole menus |
| 21:49.34 | tricente | hi |
| 21:49.36 | annma | otherwise we won't get anywhere |
| 21:49.39 | kW | Settings/Configure Konsole.../Session |
| 21:49.47 | kW | then give it a new name |
| 21:50.00 | kW | then "Save session..." |
| 21:50.04 | annma | did you then save this session? |
| 21:50.12 | kW | yes |
| 21:50.15 | annma | what name did you gave then? |
| 21:50.18 | kW | "A" |
| 21:50.49 | kW | I can also start "A" named sessions when using the small icon and pressing the mouse botton some time longer so a menu pops up |
| 21:51.09 | annma | it says A is not valid |
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| 21:52.07 | kW | really? |
| 21:52.13 | kW | I can also create "B" sessions without problems |
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| 21:59.31 | Tm_T | hum |
| 22:00.05 | annma | sorry, I was on the phone |
| 22:00.08 | annma | so |
| 22:00.09 | kW | :-) |
| 22:00.17 | annma | so you mean a profile |
| 22:00.28 | annma | you have to save the profile |
| 22:00.38 | Tm_T | =) |
| 22:00.47 | kW | yes, a session profile |
| 22:00.59 | Tm_T | annma: you're bit funny :) |
| 22:00.59 | kW | yes |
| 22:01.09 | annma | and your new konsole will open using konsole --profile=<konsolename> |
| 22:01.15 | annma | Tm_T: ;-0 am I? |
| 22:01.27 | annma | or something like that |
| 22:01.28 | kW | annma: automagically? |
| 22:01.45 | annma | add --profile=<profilename> to the command, yes |
| 22:01.50 | Tm_T | annma: yes, that's why I like you ;--P |
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| 22:01.52 | annma | well, I hope so |
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| 22:02.07 | eutopia | does anyone know please how do you maximise windows in KDE without using the mouse? |
| 22:02.39 | annma | do that for example for your konsole in kicker |
| 22:02.53 | annma | it'll open with your A or B, depending of the profile |
| 22:03.18 | cognominal_ | hi, any way to get some javascript console on konqueror? # retry... |
| 22:04.01 | annma | kW: yes, it works that way |
| 22:04.12 | kW | annma: this does not seem to work |
| 22:04.20 | annma | of course it does |
| 22:04.22 | kW | but this may be because I still have "konsole" instances open |
| 22:04.25 | annma | did you set a profile? |
| 22:04.38 | annma | did you save a profile? |
| 22:04.48 | kW | yes, I'm trying this with "konsole --profile=A" |
| 22:04.56 | eutopia | does anyone know please how do you maximise windows in KDE without using the mouse? |
| 22:05.08 | annma | yes |
| 22:05.13 | annma | kW: that works |
| 22:05.13 | ysm | cognominal_: see konqueror settings, in java/javascript section, there is a javascript debug console.. |
| 22:05.22 | kW | eutopia: I have configured a global shortcut for this :-) |
| 22:05.25 | cognominal_ | thx ysm |
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| 22:05.54 | annma | eutopia: KControl is your friend here |
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| 22:05.59 | eutopia | kW: thats not my qurstion :) |
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| 22:06.07 | annma | just set yourself what key binding you want |
| 22:06.34 | eutopia | annma: im using a livecd where no mouse is picked up! Now I then want to maximise all windows! whats key combo for this? |
| 22:06.39 | annma | eutopia: what is your question then? until you set some shortcuts for it, it is not configured by default |
| 22:06.52 | annma | alt f2 -> kcontrol |
| 22:06.53 | Tm_T | =) |
| 22:06.59 | eutopia | annma: is it possible to maximise windows without a mouse? |
| 22:07.08 | annma | eutopia: read what I wrote man! |
| 22:07.32 | annma | eutopia: alt f2 -> kcontrol -> keuboard shortcuts |
| 22:07.35 | eutopia | annma: what u wrote is non helpful and doesnt solve my issue |
| 22:07.36 | annma | global |
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| 22:07.39 | annma | no? |
| 22:07.50 | annma | I said YOU have to set it |
| 22:07.57 | annma | it is not set by default |
| 22:08.05 | annma | I tell you how to set it without mouse |
| 22:08.17 | annma | Alt + F2 -> enter kcontrol |
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| 22:08.33 | annma | if this does not solve your issue then you explained badly |
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| 22:08.52 | eutopia | annma: my version of kcontrol has NO keyboard shortcuts |
| 22:09.08 | annma | what kde version is that???? |
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| 22:09.34 | eutopia | annma: my version of kcontrol has NO keyboard shortcuts that I can navigate to and configure |
| 22:09.35 | annma | kcontrol -> regional & accessibility |
| 22:09.40 | eutopia | annma: realise there is NO MOUSE |
| 22:09.45 | annma | and???? |
| 22:09.48 | annma | what the hell? |
| 22:09.53 | ysm | <tab><tab><tab>... |
| 22:09.55 | straw | heh |
| 22:10.00 | eutopia | annma: are you stupid like your mother? |
| 22:10.07 | eutopia | annma: listen for once woman |
| 22:10.07 | straw | hey... |
| 22:10.08 | annma | eutopia: don't push it |
| 22:10.16 | annma | I just did it without mouse |
| 22:10.24 | annma | so you can do it |
| 22:10.27 | eutopia | ok |
| 22:10.30 | eutopia | let me try again |
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| 22:10.43 | annma | alt F2 -> kcontrol |
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| 22:10.54 | eutopia | annma: ok did that |
| 22:10.59 | eutopia | what next? |
| 22:11.02 | ysm | <tab> down arrow, down arrow... |
| 22:11.05 | benJIman | set alt+space to window operations menu and you have access to them all, eg alt+space+x for maximise, alt+space+n for minimise |
| 22:11.15 | benJIman | or you can set shortcut directly if you prefer |
| 22:11.18 | annma | tab and key down to Regional & accessibility |
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| 22:11.22 | annma | I also just did it |
| 22:11.28 | annma | enter |
| 22:11.30 | ysm | left arrow to open the tree |
| 22:11.49 | annma | arrow down to Keyboard Shortcuts |
| 22:11.49 | eutopia | annma: ok once in keyboard shortcuts, then what? |
| 22:11.52 | annma | enter |
| 22:11.55 | annma | man! |
| 22:12.26 | eutopia | annma: yes im at that place now! but where in keyboard shortcuts do I tell it to maximise windows wth a key combo? |
| 22:12.58 | annma | maximize window maybe? |
| 22:13.04 | ysm | window > Maximize window action |
| 22:13.06 | annma | Maximize Window |
| 22:13.14 | annma | and then you apologize |
| 22:13.18 | eutopia | annma: see? you cant do it either |
| 22:13.24 | annma | of course I can do it |
| 22:13.31 | ysm | I can do it too.. |
| 22:13.32 | eutopia | annma: where did u go to do it? |
| 22:13.41 | eutopia | where is Maximize window action? |
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| 22:14.01 | ysm | in the action list, below 'Search' |
| 22:14.17 | annma | ^^ exactly |
| 22:14.23 | eutopia | i see NO action list |
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| 22:14.33 | ma3x | why is kde control center gone? |
| 22:14.35 | Tm_T | ummm |
| 22:14.37 | ma3x | when i open it everything is gone |
| 22:14.41 | ma3x | i only have digital camera |
| 22:14.42 | ma3x | nothing else |
| 22:14.44 | ma3x | what happens? |
| 22:14.49 | Tm_T | I think it's time to get some sleep |
| 22:15.01 | eutopia | ok I found Mazimize Window |
| 22:15.10 | eutopia | but HOW do you add a key combo to it? |
| 22:15.20 | ysm | <tab>, left arrow |
| 22:15.44 | ysm | <your shortcut> |
| 22:15.59 | eutopia | ysm: ok |
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| 22:16.36 | Tm_T | good night folks o/ |
| 22:16.38 | annma | ysm: thanks! |
| 22:16.39 | luminerd | Would someone mind reviewing this? http://secure.newegg.com/NewVersion/WishList/WishDetail.asp?position=HISTORY&ID=1650639&WishListTitle=PCI |
| 22:16.41 | annma | Tm_T: bye! |
| 22:16.43 | kW | annma: I analyzed the problem a bit and I think we have misunderstood each other. Following is a test case for my problem: When you click on the icon in the lower left, you get new windows called "Shell", "Shell No. 2", and so on. How can these new windows be called "Mussel", "Mussel No. 2" and so on? |
| 22:16.59 | annma | kW: listen |
| 22:17.02 | eutopia | ysm: but will that be saved if using a liveCD? |
| 22:17.02 | annma | and answer |
| 22:17.23 | annma | eutopia: it creates a home, no? if ot ask your live Cd channel |
| 22:17.25 | eutopia | kW: dont worry, everyone misunderstands annma :) |
| 22:17.27 | ysm | entopia, if your home and kde settings are on a external memory.. |
| 22:17.32 | eutopia | annma: what? |
| 22:17.40 | annma | kW: do you have a profile for your mussel? |
| 22:17.40 | eutopia | annma: say that again using proper grammar english |
| 22:17.50 | annma | eutopia: I am not english |
| 22:17.55 | eutopia | annma: so I gather |
| 22:18.04 | eutopia | annma: what country? |
| 22:18.12 | kW | annma: I can create profiles, but profiles do not affect new mussels (the ones created by clicking on the icon |
| 22:18.17 | annma | if your distro does not save anything then ask how to do it in the ditro channel |
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| 22:18.37 | annma | kW: what I said is create a profile for your mussel |
| 22:18.46 | annma | then call this profile |
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| 22:19.21 | kW | annma: I did, but profiles only create predetermined windows with predetermined names when konsole is started... newly added windows are not affected by profiles |
| 22:19.22 | annma | you can set it as default with kosole --profile=mussel |
| 22:20.03 | annma | you have to specify new and choose the session |
| 22:20.21 | eutopia | annma: what country you from? |
| 22:20.23 | kW | annma: yes, but I want to be my "mussel" session type the default session |
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| 22:20.42 | annma | kW: I don't think that's possible |
| 22:20.54 | kW | annma: just that was my question :-) |
| 22:21.11 | annma | well at least I told you about profile, no? |
| 22:21.17 | annma | so you can at least start your mussel |
| 22:21.18 | kW | annma: you did, thank you :-) |
| 22:21.25 | annma | that's a step |
| 22:21.30 | ysm | and if you do an alias from konsole to 'konsole --profile=yourprofile' ? |
| 22:21.50 | annma | ysm: the first open as mussel |
| 22:21.55 | annma | not the second tab |
| 22:22.11 | annma | in Session settings there is no way to configure a default session |
| 22:22.24 | annma | which you can ask for in a bug report, kW |
| 22:22.26 | eutopia | annma: what country you from? |
| 22:23.06 | annma | kW: there should be a way to set what default session you want in the Configure Konsole -> Session tab |
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| 22:23.28 | annma | from the list, and then konsole would always open that one instead of Shell |
| 22:23.35 | kW | annma: yes, exactly |
| 22:23.55 | annma | does it open SHell for you as second tab? |
| 22:23.58 | annma | Shell |
| 22:24.08 | ysm | eutopia: are you from australia? |
| 22:24.23 | eutopia | ysm: no Sweden, using an Austrlian garteway! and you? |
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| 22:24.50 | ysm | eutopia: Québec, using a canadian gateway.. |
| 22:26.48 | annma | kW: now if you want always the same number of mussels, do it once and save as default profile |
| 22:27.05 | annma | save profile and call this profile I mean |
| 22:27.07 | kW | annma: unfortunately, I'm used to create mussels and shells dynamically on demand.. |
| 22:27.13 | annma | ;) yes |
| 22:27.27 | annma | so you have to use the Session menu |
| 22:27.39 | gmg9 | i want konq to switch browser from any link start with or from a perticuler ip/websita |
| 22:27.39 | gmg9 | how i do that |
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| 22:27.49 | annma | you can assign a shortcut to Mussel |
| 22:27.54 | gmg9 | http://mysite/com/* ?? |
| 22:28.06 | kW | annma: use session menu: unfortunately |
| 22:28.09 | annma | switch browser? |
| 22:28.17 | gmg9 | sorry, http://mysite.com/* ?? |
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| 22:29.48 | gmg9 | switch browser identification |
| 22:29.55 | gmg9 | i mean |
| 22:30.06 | annma | kW you can assign a key binding to new mussel |
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| 22:30.35 | annma | gmg9: in Konqueror Settings |
| 22:30.59 | annma | in Browser Identification |
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| 22:31.24 | annma | kW for example I assigned Alt A to new A |
| 22:31.53 | gmg9 | yea, i did http://mysite.com/*, but when i try to access http://mysite.com/about.html, the broser says |
| 22:32.02 | kW | annma: I assignd "Strg+Alt+N" to "new A", that worked :-) |
| 22:32.20 | gmg9 | Only IE5.0 and above supported. |
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| 22:34.08 | kW | annma: thank you so far, do you know how to let konsole be started maximized by saying this on the konsole command line? |
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| 22:35.27 | annma | if it's saved as default maximaized it'll reopen maximized |
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| 22:35.55 | ysm | gmg9: that's a dumb webmaster issue.. |
| 22:36.18 | annma | kW: otherwise it's done by dcop I think |
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| 22:37.18 | ysm | gmg9: I think you don't need the *.. |
| 22:37.39 | ysm | gmg9: what is the website? |
| 22:37.43 | kW | annma: odd enough, konsole starts maximized (if it was maximized when "save as default" was executed), but then resizes somehow to a smaller window |
| 22:37.51 | benJIman | kstart --maximize konsole |
| 22:38.07 | gmg9 | ysm: 59.160.203.83 |
| 22:38.11 | annma | when does it resize to smaller? |
| 22:39.04 | kW | annma: just after all (default) sessions have been started |
| 22:39.47 | ysm | hum, I did a ping, and it 100% packet loss. |
| 22:40.04 | annma | this may be a bug then |
| 22:40.13 | annma | it works with 1 tab only |
| 22:40.14 | gmg9 | ysm: open it in konq |
| 22:40.20 | kW | benJIman: even with "kstart --maximize konsole --profile=manysessions", it does not work |
| 22:40.25 | ysm | I tried with konq/firefox.. |
| 22:40.27 | benJIman | works here |
| 22:40.50 | gmg9 | ysm: what says ? |
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| 22:41.09 | annma | the issue is with many tabs |
| 22:41.14 | ysm | gmg9: unreachable |
| 22:41.24 | annma | this is a bug I would say |
| 22:42.13 | gmg9 | ysm: but mine says "Only IE5.0 and above supported." |
| 22:42.47 | ysm | gmg9: the website won't say anything, if I can access to the server ;p |
| 22:43.37 | kW | interesting, "kstart --maximize konsole --profile=manysessions" does not create maximized windows, while "kstart --maximize konsole" does |
| 22:44.25 | kW | you might reproduce this problem with "kstart --maximize konsole --profile=5shells" |
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| 22:45.48 | annma | that last one maximizizes it |
| 22:45.48 | eckXsz | help please |
| 22:45.48 | eckXsz | my ogl screensavers wont work |
| 22:46.51 | kW | annma: really? "kstart --maximize konsole" creates maximized windows, while "kstart --maximize konsole --profile=5shells" does not |
| 22:47.05 | annma | it does for me, kW |
| 22:47.28 | kW | annma: do you also get 5 shells with the "5shells" profile? |
| 22:47.33 | annma | a default 5 shell maximized |
| 22:47.42 | annma | 5 shell black on white |
| 22:47.49 | eckXsz | ? |
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| 22:48.32 | eckXsz | please? |
| 22:48.45 | eckXsz | how can i fix my opengl screensavers? |
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| 22:49.18 | annma | kW: I have to go for dinner |
| 22:49.21 | annma | bbl |
| 22:49.37 | kW | bon appetit |
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| 22:50.05 | eckXsz | :( |
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| 22:50.58 | CrumbPup | I can't choose between kopete and gaim :) |
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| 22:51.06 | eckXsz | kopete |
| 22:51.09 | ysm | gaim |
| 22:51.10 | chrisag | Crumb: I use gaim |
| 22:51.16 | Alethes | kopete doesn't have that annoying connection window |
| 22:51.17 | chrisag | Only because kopete is still slightly immature. |
| 22:51.35 | ysm | because kopete use more ram.. |
| 22:51.37 | chrisag | And... the aim file sending summer of code project might work? |
| 22:51.41 | CrumbPup | well gaim upsets me because my buddy icons are always disappearing |
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| 22:51.52 | chrisag | YSM: I have two gigs I'm not too worried :) |
| 22:52.05 | Darien | hi all, I have a strange problem... I'm trying to set the preference in the control center to enable antialiased fonts, but after I check it and hit 'apply', if I leave that preference pane and come back to it, it's unchecked again |
| 22:52.16 | Darien | I can change the other Fonts settings, and permissions on ~/.kde are right |
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| 22:53.12 | Alethes | go back to #web. You're not welcome here |
| 22:53.16 | Darien | :( |
| 22:53.19 | Alethes | :D |
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| 22:53.32 | Alethes | you mean .( :D |
| 22:54.03 | Darien | .P |
| 22:54.24 | Alethes | hehe |
| 22:54.46 | Alethes | when you click apply does the setting take effect all? |
| 22:54.54 | Darien | no |
| 22:55.09 | Darien | I hit apply, and it 'applies' and tells me it'll only apply to new programs |
| 22:55.17 | Darien | then I click on Icons, then back to Fonts, and it's unchecked |
| 22:55.23 | Alethes | hmm |
| 22:55.24 | Alethes | hang on |
| 22:55.27 | Darien | I changed all the default fonts, and that stuck |
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| 22:56.01 | Alethes | wonder what the name of that app is |
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| 22:56.17 | Alethes | if you can figure that out, run it from konsole and see if there's any error |
| 22:56.38 | Darien | well here's the stranger thing |
| 22:56.51 | Darien | when you click the checkbox, there's a button for 'Configure' |
| 22:56.59 | Darien | I click that and change settings, and they stay changed |
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| 22:57.19 | Darien | but the actual 'antialias my shiz' doesn't stick |
| 22:57.27 | Alethes | hmm |
| 22:57.34 | Alethes | has it ever worked? |
| 22:59.36 | eckXsz | help |
| 22:59.43 | eckXsz | how do i make my opengl screensavers work? |
| 23:00.23 | Alethes | that requires a subscription. You can send the funds directly to my paypal account and I'll enable them. |
| 23:00.31 | blshkv | eckXsz: you make opengl work first. |
| 23:00.39 | eckXsz | i dont know if it does |
| 23:00.44 | eckXsz | how can i make it work? |
| 23:00.56 | Darien | Alethes: nope |
| 23:00.58 | Alethes | eckXsz: does glxgears work when you run it from a konsole? |
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| 23:01.28 | Alethes | Darien: I'm certain there's an error happening but you just can't see it |
| 23:01.30 | eckXsz | extension GLX missing |
| 23:01.36 | Alethes | hang on |
| 23:01.47 | eckXsz | Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". |
| 23:01.47 | eckXsz | glxgears: Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual. |
| 23:01.52 | Alethes | that's your prob, eckXsz |
| 23:01.52 | Alethes | :) |
| 23:01.53 | Latem | hmm I need a sound file (preferebly in ogg, but .wav or mp3 is ok too), that sounds kind of victorious, or like a "yeah!" or something similar, anyone know of a app with such sound file maybe? |
| 23:01.58 | eckXsz | how do i fix that? |
| 23:02.18 | Alethes | Darien: I wonder how the hell you figure out which app it is |
| 23:02.21 | blshkv | eckXsx: this is wrong channel to ask :) |
| 23:02.22 | Tm_M | "mom! look, I'm sleeping!" |
| 23:02.27 | Latem | k3b's successful finish is too long |
| 23:02.35 | eckXsz | does this depend on distro? |
| 23:02.55 | blshkv | a bit.. |
| 23:03.10 | eckXsz | gentoo |
| 23:03.16 | eckXsz | where should i ask |
| 23:03.23 | blshkv | <PROTECTED> |
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| 23:04.35 | blshkv | ask google first :) |
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| 23:05.14 | doczoidberg | eckXsz: perhaps antother distro is better for you? |
| 23:05.28 | eckXsz | im not a beginner with linux, just kde |
| 23:05.34 | Tm_M | heh |
| 23:05.35 | eckXsz | and all windowed systems |
| 23:05.58 | blshkv | eckXsz: I have gentoo too. No problem with it |
| 23:06.08 | eckXsz | if i can install gentoo i dont need another system |
| 23:06.32 | blshkv | yep. It's a nice distro. My favorite. Offtopic, sorry |
| 23:06.39 | eckXsz | same |
| 23:06.43 | eckXsz | beats slack any day |
| 23:06.55 | doczoidberg | suse rox ;) |
| 23:07.10 | Tm_M | Kubuntu <3 |
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| 23:07.26 | blshkv | ask google, there are many links how to configure x |
| 23:07.34 | eckXsz | not x |
| 23:07.36 | Tm_M | all you need is <3 |
| 23:07.42 | eckXsz | opengl |
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| 23:07.57 | blshkv | nop, X. |
| 23:08.38 | Darien | Alethes: http://www.pastebin.com/348777 |
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| 23:09.13 | blshkv | Tm_M: kubunu for windows ppl :) |
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| 23:09.49 | Alethes | Darien: tada? |
| 23:09.50 | Tm_M | shut up |
| 23:09.56 | Alethes | what's filename, I wonder |
| 23:10.03 | Darien | Alethes: dunno |
| 23:10.21 | Darien | l；k、。myhjんmqwaszdxesdxfgcvhb mbn |
| 23:10.26 | Darien | oops sorry |
| 23:10.28 | Darien | was cleaning keyboard |
| 23:10.29 | gmg9 | how do i logout from a session (say kde) from command line |
| 23:10.31 | gmg9 | ?? |
| 23:10.44 | Alethes | WARNING: KLocale: trying to look up "" in catalog. Fix the program |
| 23:10.52 | Alethes | could be your Locale settings |
| 23:10.56 | Darien | yeah, but that seems like a Locale thing |
| 23:11.15 | Darien | why would my locale not being set properly make it not change font settings properly? |
| 23:11.25 | Alethes | no idea :D |
| 23:11.36 | Darien | this is on OS X by the way |
| 23:11.39 | Darien | but it shouldn't matter |
| 23:11.44 | Alethes | Using fontconfig file:/Users/dan/.fonts.conf |
| 23:11.44 | Alethes | that file exists? |
| 23:11.52 | Darien | yes |
| 23:11.58 | Alethes | yeah, don't think it matters |
| 23:12.01 | Darien | and it has the settings from the 'configure' dialog that I mentioned |
| 23:12.10 | Darien | ok, can you try something for me? |
| 23:12.11 | Alethes | can I ask why in the world you're using kde when you have OSX? :P |
| 23:12.21 | Alethes | sure |
| 23:12.27 | Darien | because I sometimes need to use X apps, and I want a good env |
| 23:12.30 | Darien | also, to test Konqueror on websites |
| 23:12.33 | Alethes | gotcha |
| 23:12.38 | blshkv | gpg9: google says dcop --all-users ksmserver ksmserver logout 0 2 0 |
| 23:12.38 | Alethes | safari isn't close? |
| 23:12.46 | Darien | not anymore |
| 23:12.49 | Alethes | dang |
| 23:12.51 | Alethes | that sucks |
| 23:12.57 | Alethes | that should be changing with 3.5 |
| 23:12.57 | Darien | well, it's close, but it's also very different too |
| 23:13.08 | Alethes | what did you need me to try? |
| 23:13.10 | Darien | Alethes: can you go into ~/.kde/share/config and grep -i "alias" * |
| 23:13.16 | Darien | and see if anything comes up? |
| 23:13.54 | Alethes | hang on |
| 23:14.20 | Darien | I was thinking hmm, maybe the X server doesn't support it, but it should - besides, shouldn't it stay on and just give a warning when I start the program? |
| 23:14.27 | Alethes | http://pastebin.com/348783 |
| 23:14.48 | Darien | ok, so nothing relevant |
| 23:14.54 | Alethes | nah |
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| 23:15.35 | Alethes | what version of X do you have? |
| 23:17.13 | Alethes | brb |
| 23:17.18 | Darien | based off 4.4.0 |
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| 23:20.14 | Darien | KDE version is 3.4 btw |
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| 23:21.02 | Alethes | 4.x anything is gonna have xft built in, so that shouldn't be an issue |
| 23:21.15 | Darien | yeh |
| 23:21.20 | bertambala77 | How can I add an audio backend (e.g. alsa) to KsCD? I am able to select the direct digital playback option, but there are no backends to choose from. Thanks in advance. |
| 23:21.28 | Darien | is there any way I can get the list of supported extensions from the X server? |
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| 23:22.22 | Alethes | hmmm not sure |
| 23:22.28 | Alethes | X -help doesn't seem to be useful |
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| 23:22.33 | NitishP | Hello. |
| 23:22.35 | NitishP | Is there a program that's similar to photoshop in KDE? |
| 23:22.47 | NitishP | (Not KPaint) |
| 23:23.01 | Alethes | depends on what you mean by "similar" |
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| 23:23.24 | Alethes | there's gimp or krita |
| 23:23.31 | Alethes | krita is still alpha I think |
| 23:24.31 | HuntsMan | Krita is stable |
| 23:24.36 | Alethes | is it? |
| 23:24.38 | Alethes | cool |
| 23:24.54 | Ghostbuster | hello |
| 23:24.57 | gmg9 | how do i logout from a session in kde from command line ?? |
| 23:25.11 | Darien | someone just told you |
| 23:25.38 | Alethes | heh |
| 23:25.40 | Darien | <blshkv> gpg9: google says dcop --all-users ksmserver ksmserver logout 0 2 0 |
| 23:25.50 | Alethes | I knew I was having a deja vu |
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| 23:27.00 | gmg9 | Darien: sorry i dont noticed |
| 23:27.06 | Darien | np |
| 23:28.06 | gmg9 | Darien: do i do ksmserver 2 times ?? |
| 23:28.20 | Darien | do that command line as it is |
| 23:29.11 | gmg9 | ok |
| 23:29.25 | gmg9 | thanks |
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| 23:43.11 | Oleg_ | people, hi!! |
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| 23:48.05 | analia | hello. i'm using k3b to make a vcd for my dvd player. the problem is that the source is a divx and then k3b says i need to convert it to mpeg1 or mpeg2 |
| 23:48.19 | analia | someone knows wich tool does this job? |
| 23:48.44 | StevenR-lappy | analia, mplayer probably would do that |
| 23:48.55 | Darien | analia: virtualdub I believe can do that |
| 23:48.58 | frb | transcode |
| 23:49.03 | analia | StevenR-lappy: ok. it also can insert the subtitles? :) |
| 23:49.15 | StevenR-lappy | i dont know |
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| 23:51.46 | analia | Darien: does virtualdub run on wine or what? |
| 23:51.58 | Darien | hrm |
| 23:52.09 | Darien | I thought it ran on Linux, could be wrong |
| 23:52.17 | Darien | ah, my bad |
| 23:52.39 | analia | thanks. no problem |
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| 23:54.17 | vladg | can anyone tellme how i can setup konversation to auto-identify on freenode? |
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| 23:54.51 | bertambala77 | anyone know how to add an audio backend to KsCD for Direct Digital Playback? |
| 23:55.01 | StevenR-lappy | vladg, theres a command on connect to server thing that I use in konv (but not on konv here so i cant check) |
| 23:55.01 | annma | bertambala77: no |
| 23:55.03 | vladg | i see that there seems to be an option for that under edit identity, but what should i put in for service? |
| 23:55.38 | vladg | in the main tab for edit identity, at the bottom there's a thing for auto-identify, which asks for a service and a password |
| 23:56.05 | kW | does anybody know a tool which copies the current working directory into the clipboard? |
| 23:56.27 | Sho_ | vladg: nickserv + your pw |
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| 23:56.47 | vladg | Sho_: nickserv as the service? |
| 23:56.57 | Sho_ | vladg: yup |
| 23:57.02 | vladg | cool, thanks! |
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