| 00:01.29 | annma | kicken: run konqueror from konsole as a start |
| 00:01.50 | annma | and try fish://url |
| 00:02.03 | kicken | just gives me an error page. |
| 00:02.31 | swaps_space | kde version? |
| 00:02.32 | annma | run konq frm konsole then |
| 00:02.57 | annma | what kde version is it? |
| 00:03.38 | kicken | 3.4.2 I have been using it from an xterm window. I havn't really seen a whole lot to help me solve the problem. |
| 00:04.12 | annma | didyou try several urls? |
| 00:04.25 | annma | or is it just 1? |
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| 00:04.49 | annma | xterm and not konsole! no! |
| 00:05.47 | kicken | Doesn't work with any URL I try. |
| 00:06.06 | annma | as user |
| 00:06.11 | annma | but works as root |
| 00:06.25 | annma | which seems to be a permission problem somewhere |
| 00:06.26 | kicken | I only installed kdelibs and kdebase. I use blackbox for the wm. I had it setup like this before I installed ubuntu and it worked fine. |
| 00:07.16 | annma | if it works as root it looks like a permission problem |
| 00:07.23 | annma | did you try another non-root user? |
| 00:08.00 | kicken | Only have one other user setup. Guess I could add another and try it. |
| 00:08.33 | annma | yes, I would do that for a start |
| 00:09.01 | annma | does konqueror work when browsing https websites? |
| 00:10.05 | kicken | yea, https works fine |
| 00:11.05 | annma | the output form konsole is quite a lot |
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| 00:11.23 | annma | you should have some information about what does not work |
| 00:12.16 | annma | I have several tens of lines as output |
| 00:12.31 | annma | like |
| 00:12.34 | annma | libkonq: ## addToHistory: http://by102fd.bay102.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/hmhome?fti=yes&curmbox=00000000%2d0000%2d0000%2d0000%2d000000000001&a=b967cc1d7ea5b1510739c6447e8987d795af9cf961cc5e0cbf29655d85b9d0c9 Typed URL: , Title: MSN Hotmail - Today |
| 00:12.45 | annma | the url it opened |
| 00:12.49 | annma | and so on |
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| 00:14.54 | annma | kicken: you don't have all that? |
| 00:15.58 | annma | kicken: ? |
| 00:15.59 | kicken | Now it's segfault ing all the time. wtf. Just a sec |
| 00:16.14 | annma | hmm looks like your install is not the best |
| 00:16.45 | kicken | It might be because of my starting x from within x. That's when the segfault started |
| 00:17.01 | kicken | I'm gonna restart X and see if it helps. Be back in a bit. |
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| 00:23.11 | kicken | I think it's the nvidia x driver that causes my segfault problems. Ever since I installed it in order to play ut2k4 I've had instances where almost every gui app starts crashing. Takes a reboot to fix it. |
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| 00:24.11 | kicken | Probably setup a separate user for playing ut2k4 I guess, so I'm only loading it when I'm playing. |
| 00:25.25 | kicken | Anyway, I get a lot of ouput from konqueror. Not sure what parts would be relevant. I could just post it all somewhere if you want. |
| 00:26.14 | annma | try a new user first |
| 00:26.31 | kicken | Did, before I came back. Same deal. |
| 00:27.51 | annma | seems a permission then |
| 00:28.35 | annma | try putting the konq output from a sftp:// url |
| 00:28.45 | kicken | Kinda looks that way. Dunno what would have wrong permissions though. |
| 00:28.54 | annma | ssh? |
| 00:28.55 | kicken | All the ssh/sftp/scp stuff works from the command line. |
| 00:29.25 | annma | can you give me a sftp anonymous address so I can try it? |
| 00:29.33 | annma | I also have kde compiled here |
| 00:29.41 | annma | except no root involved |
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| 00:32.04 | kicken | sure. Just a min |
| 00:33.02 | blueillusion | hey, i just downloaded a theme, it came in a .ktheme format, i also uncompressed it and it had a .themerc file, but kde doesnt see it when i try to install the theme via control center |
| 00:33.57 | annma | blueillusion: maybe the theme is not for your kde version |
| 00:34.04 | annma | blueillusion: what kde version? |
| 00:34.10 | blueillusion | 3.4. |
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| 00:35.36 | blueillusion | hmm yea it seems the theme is for kde 3.0 |
| 00:35.45 | blueillusion | is there any way to get those colors from it though? |
| 00:36.44 | annma | when do yu have the error, kicken? |
| 00:37.04 | annma | when you type the url, there's no password dialog? |
| 00:37.13 | kicken | Yea. |
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| 00:37.31 | annma | so try in konsole and paste the output in a paste bin please |
| 00:37.35 | annma | I just also did it |
| 00:37.50 | annma | so I can compare from my output and yours |
| 00:37.58 | kicken | It pop's back 'Failed to execute ssh process' |
| 00:38.18 | annma | yes but the output would be better |
| 00:38.24 | kicken | The path it's using to ssh is correct. http://aoeex.com:8008/konqueror_output |
| 00:39.31 | annma | kio_sftp: KSshPRocess::kill(): we are not connected |
| 00:39.31 | annma | kio_sftp: KSshProcess::kill(): we are not running a ssh process |
| 00:39.34 | annma | here |
| 00:41.29 | annma | mkdir: Owner of /tmp/.ICE-unix should be set to root |
| 00:41.34 | annma | hmmm |
| 00:41.46 | annma | seems quite a lot of errors in your output |
| 00:43.19 | kicken | I fixed that one. |
| 00:43.24 | annma | so your sftp kioslavedoes not load |
| 00:43.25 | kicken | Didn't change anything. |
| 00:44.56 | apokryphos | is it me, or is it pretty dang silly to have the whole filename+extension selected when you press F2 (rename)? |
| 00:45.16 | apokryphos | right-click -> properties seems to have got it right. I wonder why it wasn't extended to inline rename |
| 00:46.03 | annma | kicken: ls -la /sr/bin/ssh |
| 00:46.11 | annma | kicken: ls -la /usr/bin/ssh |
| 00:46.48 | kicken | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 240K 2005-09-14 18:37 /usr/bin/ssh |
| 00:47.11 | annma | that's ok |
| 00:47.24 | annma | what arch did you build on? |
| 00:47.29 | annma | x86-32? |
| 00:47.49 | kicken | yea |
| 00:48.25 | annma | and it all went OK in kdelibs? |
| 00:48.33 | annma | you built X first? |
| 00:48.37 | kicken | yep. |
| 00:49.00 | kicken | I tried kdebase a second time last night, not kdelibs. I could try that. |
| 00:49.02 | annma | I cannot see where the problem is |
| 00:49.20 | annma | too bad you don't run the whole kde |
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| 00:49.36 | annma | maybe you have other problems as well |
| 00:49.43 | annma | I have to go anyway |
| 00:49.57 | annma | good luck |
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| 01:04.32 | dsafda | I don't know why, but if I'm over the firefox-window, or over thunderbird window my MOUSE-theme doesn't WORK! |
| 01:04.37 | dsafda | instead of my theme I've a black cursor... :O |
| 01:04.43 | dsafda | how can I solve this problem? |
| 01:07.03 | chavo | dsafda, use kmail and konqueror |
| 01:07.24 | dsafda | konqueror... oh my god... -.-' |
| 01:07.47 | dsafda | I will use internet explorer... |
| 01:08.53 | chavo | yes internet explorer is nice |
| 01:09.08 | dsafda | just like konqueror is... |
| 01:09.19 | dsafda | don't u have the same problem of mine? |
| 01:09.38 | dsafda | did u change the X11-mouse-theme? |
| 01:09.59 | chavo | no I don't like firefox or thunderbird, they are yucky |
| 01:13.07 | kicken | I'd guess it has something to do w/ a gtk vs. qt thing. Dunno though. I don't use kde as a whole. |
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| 01:16.59 | dsafda | kicken, I think the same... but I don't know what to do -.-' |
| 01:17.54 | knoppix | i have a ? |
| 01:18.28 | knoppix | ow do you get your modem to work in linux |
| 01:18.33 | knoppix | how* |
| 01:19.06 | knoppix | can anyone help me |
| 01:19.24 | frb-work | that's a distro issue first |
| 01:19.40 | knoppix | ok |
| 01:20.04 | knoppix | i will just google around |
| 01:20.26 | kicken | dsafda http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software_2fgtk_2dqt Not sure if that'd help at all. Never an issue that I've delt with. |
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| 01:24.30 | Dhraakellian | hmm |
| 01:26.05 | Dhraakellian | where would I configure the completion method for alt+f2 and such? |
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| 01:28.25 | DrAxeman | I've got a strange issue regarding Firefox and KDE themes. Earlier I was able to get FF to use my theme for window + font color. But now I'm having an issue in web pages. If a page has a text input box it's using the KDE theme window background color, but not the right font color. |
| 01:28.28 | Dhraakellian | when I want to launch kvim, I don't necessarilly want to launch "kvim nameofwhateverfileIhappenedtoopenthiswaylast" |
| 01:28.55 | Dhraakellian | and the current way it's doing completion means that I can't just do kvim<enter> |
| 01:29.34 | chavo | Dhraakellian, the only completion in run box is the history list |
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| 01:31.15 | Dhraakellian | "kvim ~/.gvimrc" is what shows up when I type "kvim" |
| 01:31.26 | Dhraakellian | and pressing enter runs that |
| 01:32.21 | chavo | Dhraakellian, doesn't do that here |
| 01:32.26 | Dhraakellian | (complete with the greyed out stuff, which becomes black when I press enter) |
| 01:32.39 | Dhraakellian | is this just something that Suse decided that it'd be fun to add? |
| 01:33.17 | chavo | Well I'm running 3.5 from svn, so it could be something they've fixed since then |
| 01:33.43 | Dhraakellian | 3.4.2 on suse 9.3 |
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| 01:54.39 | madman91 | does anyone have firefox problems? |
| 01:54.49 | madman91 | my firefox and mozilla time out when trying to reach any webpage |
| 02:02.09 | kicken | perhaps you just have internet problems. |
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| 02:25.59 | Octane | can someone please tell me how to load up the Administrator Mode of Network settings from console, without having to go through the system settings |
| 02:26.07 | madman91 | su |
| 02:26.09 | madman91 | in console |
| 02:26.51 | Octane | no, to get the GUI administrato rmode of network settings |
| 02:27.15 | madman91 | i unno i installed linux a week ago |
| 02:27.43 | Octane | welcome ! |
| 02:30.42 | grepper | Octane: what network settings are those ? |
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| 02:37.13 | Octane | grepper brb |
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| 03:13.25 | Oleg_ | anyone compiled kde 3.5 alpha? |
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| 03:16.23 | sema4 | hello all ... I need help with the kamera kio slave ... It seems it works if it's done under root (ie configured in kontrol) but failes when I (as a normal user) try to do the same thing . anyone know what I have to do ? |
| 03:21.33 | apokryphos | Oleg_: ages ago, yes. |
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| 03:25.15 | Oleg_ | so, was it stable? |
| 03:25.25 | Oleg_ | any new features are there? |
| 03:30.13 | sema4 | it's a pitty the control slave doesnt mention that |
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| 03:39.05 | apokryphos | Oleg_: many new features |
| 03:39.19 | apokryphos | Oleg_: kind of stable, but still several bugs floating about |
| 03:39.40 | Oleg_ | what new features? |
| 03:39.48 | apokryphos | Oleg_: http://www.canllaith.org/articles.html |
| 03:40.10 | canllaith | Read the 'This month in SVN' articles :) |
| 03:40.12 | canllaith | new features. |
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| 03:49.31 | Oleg_ | ok |
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| 03:52.31 | felly | I have installed KDE 3.4.2 for the first time on FreeBSD and it is running great. However, I can't seem to find how to enable the Google search box in Konqueror. What am I overlooking ? |
| 03:53.42 | elijahlofgren | felly: Ony 3.4.1 you just do: Settings -> Configure Extensions -> Check "Search Bar Plugin" |
| 03:53.55 | elijahlofgren | felly: does that work for you? |
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| 03:54.50 | felly | elijahlofgren: i find the dialog but there are no extensions available. I probably forgot to install the proper package |
| 03:56.16 | elijahlofgren | felly: "konq-plugins" is the name for it on Gentoo. It may be similar on FreeBSD. |
| 03:56.41 | *** topic/#kde by apokryphos -> |
| 03:56.41 | *** topic/#kde by ChanServ -> KDE 3.4.2 is out: http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-3.4.2.php | KDE FAQ: http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/faq/ - The answer to your question might already be here! | Please don't flood the channel, use a paste service: http://rafb.net/paste | Please state your distribution and KDE version when asking questions |
| 03:57.10 | apokryphos | canllaith: no room in topic for link? ;-) |
| 03:57.41 | canllaith | No, you're just not supposed to change it. |
| 03:57.56 | *** mode/#kde [+o canllaith] by ChanServ |
| 03:58.01 | canllaith | What did you want it changed to ? |
| 03:58.12 | elijahlofgren | felly: The name of the pacakage is konq-plugins. |
| 03:58.20 | apokryphos | canllaith: add feature guide and have 3.4.2 as a tinyurl |
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| 03:59.01 | *** topic/#kde by canllaith -> KDE 3.4.2 is out: http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-3.4.2.php | KDE FAQ: http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/faq/ - The answer to your question might already be here! | Please don't flood the channel, use a paste service: http://rafb.net/paste | Please state your distribution and KDE version when asking questions | New features in development versions: http://www.canllaith.org/articles.html |
| 03:59.08 | canllaith | that'll do :) |
| 03:59.17 | *** mode/#kde [-o canllaith] by canllaith |
| 03:59.17 | apokryphos | ah, if it fits fine -- cool. |
| 03:59.29 | canllaith | Yeah it fits fine - it just wont let you change it as you're not an op |
| 04:00.10 | felly | elijahlofgren: kdeaddons-konq-plugins to be exact :) |
| 04:00.18 | felly | elijahlofgren: it's installing, thanks for the help |
| 04:00.37 | elijahlofgren | felly: oh, ok. You're welcome. |
| 04:00.47 | apokryphos | canllaith: oh, knew that (didn't try to); it was just overcrowded some time ago |
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| 04:12.31 | Oleg_ | canllaith: it's a good pic at the bottom of your blog page |
| 04:17.05 | Oleg_ | gn |
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| 04:29.50 | forevertheuni | hey can someone point me an application to see webpages or parts of webpages in the background(in kde) |
| 04:29.56 | forevertheuni | like that thing M$ made for Windows 98 |
| 04:32.29 | Dhraakellian | it's in the background settings |
| 04:32.57 | Dhraakellian | click the "Advanced Options" button |
| 04:35.38 | forevertheuni | oh k |
| 04:38.57 | forevertheuni | :( not working |
| 04:38.58 | forevertheuni | lol |
| 04:42.44 | forevertheuni | yeps |
| 04:42.47 | forevertheuni | doesn't start |
| 04:43.12 | forevertheuni | ok |
| 04:43.21 | forevertheuni | I think I found the prob |
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| 04:50.16 | forevertheuni | nup |
| 04:50.25 | forevertheuni | i've set allow programs in desktop |
| 04:50.30 | forevertheuni | but It doesn't work either |
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| 04:51.02 | forevertheuni | kworldclock doesn't work either |
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| 04:59.15 | Oleg_ | can't sleep |
| 05:02.20 | Oleg_ | gotta start reading books |
| 05:02.24 | blueillusion | anyone have a really good blue colour based kde theme? |
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| 05:04.20 | indigoX | hey where's 3.5beta1? |
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| 05:10.31 | Oleg_ | canllaith: so you're interested in music |
| 05:10.42 | Oleg_ | canllaith: you play any instruments? |
| 05:13.07 | elijahlofgren | indigoX: The download for it? (You're running Gentoo right?) |
| 05:13.35 | indigoX | yep hopefully tarballs |
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| 05:14.01 | indigoX | are you stalking me!?!? |
| 05:17.29 | indigoX | no balls in the unstable kde ftp branch unfortunately |
| 05:18.25 | Oleg_ | do you think I should go back to college? |
| 05:19.04 | indigoX | did u like it there? |
| 05:19.16 | Oleg_ | Since my last college GPA was 1.9, I can't get financial aid anymore in 4-year colleges. |
| 05:19.36 | Oleg_ | but 2-year colleges have forgiveness programs |
| 05:20.01 | Oleg_ | indigoX: yeah, but didn't study hard |
| 05:20.26 | indigoX | hmm i didn't know that. you talking about federal aid? |
| 05:20.38 | Oleg_ | yeah |
| 05:20.59 | indigoX | u sure about that? |
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| 05:21.05 | Oleg_ | yeah |
| 05:21.15 | indigoX | you check on their website? |
| 05:21.27 | Oleg_ | as far as I remember, those were the state grants and federal grants |
| 05:21.39 | indigoX | now you're takling about grants not aid |
| 05:21.59 | indigoX | aid is more than grants. you might still be able to get loans |
| 05:22.07 | Oleg_ | oh, I thought it was the same thing |
| 05:22.09 | indigoX | did you have any loans outstanding? |
| 05:22.14 | Oleg_ | no |
| 05:22.31 | indigoX | so what aid did you get from them |
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| 05:22.36 | Oleg_ | anyway, I may go back to a 2-year college |
| 05:22.37 | indigoX | from the federales |
| 05:22.42 | Oleg_ | financial aid |
| 05:22.47 | indigoX | what kind |
| 05:22.48 | Oleg_ | PELL grants |
| 05:22.51 | staulkor | hey guys, does anybody know how to edit xstartup to make it use kde instead of X? |
| 05:22.55 | Oleg_ | and state grants |
| 05:23.04 | indigoX | oooh those are the best kind. you can waste all their grant money on anything u want |
| 05:23.33 | indigoX | you probably still able to get loans |
| 05:23.53 | Oleg_ | I gotta pay back the loans |
| 05:23.55 | indigoX | they love to lock young people into paying student loan debts for decades |
| 05:24.08 | indigoX | so they hand em out to pretty much anybody under the right circumstances |
| 05:24.31 | indigoX | you don't wanna pay? |
| 05:25.07 | Oleg_ | I mean, I would have to pay back the loans if I took them |
| 05:25.16 | Oleg_ | but I don't wanna do it |
| 05:25.42 | Oleg_ | not sure if I'll get a job |
| 05:25.42 | indigoX | well my first followup would be: then why you want to go to a place that asks for money? my second statement would be: well there are some programs you can get into later that allow you to forgive student loans if you do certain things |
| 05:26.02 | indigoX | well welfare's not too bad, so I hear |
| 05:26.31 | indigoX | then you can get an unskilled job and get unemployment after working a while there too. free money |
| 05:26.36 | Oleg_ | all colleges require either financial aid or students' money |
| 05:27.06 | indigoX | exactly so my question is why do you want to even go to the place if u don't want to pay? |
| 05:28.01 | Oleg_ | but I am saying that some 2-year colleges have forgiveness programs, so the financial aid is restored, as far as I understand it |
| 05:29.08 | Oleg_ | they will take credits from the previous college I attended, and will ignore the GPA I had. |
| 05:29.42 | indigoX | are they federally funded colleges? |
| 05:29.59 | Oleg_ | I assume so |
| 05:30.07 | indigoX | assume? eh?? |
| 05:30.15 | Oleg_ | that's what my vocational counselor told me |
| 05:30.19 | indigoX | you might want to check up on these things |
| 05:30.32 | indigoX | counselor shmounseler |
| 05:30.55 | indigoX | for all you know, the counselor spent his college days like u did |
| 05:31.09 | indigoX | check the documentation |
| 05:31.53 | indigoX | counselors just like to see warm bodies owing the school money |
| 05:32.24 | Oleg_ | no, I doubt she lied or misrepresented the info |
| 05:32.35 | indigoX | women lie all the time |
| 05:33.02 | indigoX | it's in their genes. they rationalize it by "not wanting to hurt your feelings" |
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| 05:33.19 | elijahlofgren | indigoX: Is 3.5beta1 even out yet? I've only heard of 3.5-alpha1 being out. |
| 05:33.44 | indigoX | i say u should go to the fafsa et all websites do some of the research and then you'll be able to figure out what u want |
| 05:33.59 | thiago | elijahlofgren: it's not out but you can get it already |
| 05:34.09 | indigoX | elijahlofgren: 3.5beta1 should have b een "prepared" for release on the 13th |
| 05:34.34 | Oleg_ | indigoX: I'll decide soon enough |
| 05:34.50 | canllaith | Oleg_: Piano & flute & singing |
| 05:35.16 | indigoX | Oleg_: yes take your time there is no pressure. especially not from counselors getting paid to get your warm body locked into debt |
| 05:35.50 | indigoX | thiago: is the only place to get it at the svn? |
| 05:35.55 | thiago | indigoX: yes |
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| 05:45.11 | Oleg_ | yeah |
| 05:45.11 | Oleg_ | hehe |
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| 08:12.15 | pinotree | mdouhan: ping |
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| 08:12.28 | mdouhan | pinotree: pong |
| 08:12.59 | pinotree | mdouhan: PhilRod talked me about the kolab server for devels... could you give me more info? |
| 08:13.52 | mdouhan | pinotree: there shold be info on kdemail.net but simply email your first and last name to signup@kdemail.net |
| 08:14.20 | mdouhan | and an account will be created within 24 hours |
| 08:14.32 | pinotree | i did that bout 4 months ago (just to have kde @kdemail account), but no reply so far :( |
| 08:15.01 | mdouhan | pinotree: uhmm I have seen no such email :) |
| 08:15.35 | pinotree | mdouhan: it's dated 20050602 |
| 08:16.13 | mdouhan | hmm weird |
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| 08:16.21 | mdouhan | email it now and I will set you up right away |
| 08:16.22 | rober | morning |
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| 08:16.32 | pinotree | just an empty one? |
| 08:16.51 | mdouhan | pinotree: yeah |
| 08:16.55 | pinotree | ok |
| 08:16.56 | rober | which is then name of the KDE program that lets you pick a color in the screen and tells you its value ? |
| 08:17.31 | SlackUX | just got kde 3.4.5 from svn, superb :-) |
| 08:17.33 | pinotree | rober: it's a kicker applet, called Colour Picker |
| 08:17.43 | rober | thanks! |
| 08:19.41 | mdouhan | pinotree: done and account details sent |
| 08:19.59 | chavo | rober, there's a program also kcolorchooser |
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| 08:20.20 | rober | SlackUX: 3.4.5 ? is not 3.4.2 the lastest one ? |
| 08:20.46 | chavo | rober, not if you're a leet haxor |
| 08:20.51 | rober | lol |
| 08:21.02 | rober | you mean a l33t h4x0r ? |
| 08:21.07 | SlackUX | rober, from svn |
| 08:21.15 | chavo | yes that's it |
| 08:21.28 | rober | so, there's going to be more 3.4 releases before 3.5 ? |
| 08:21.32 | pinotree | thank you a lot, mdouhan =) |
| 08:21.38 | SlackUX | not sure |
| 08:21.49 | SlackUX | but 3.4.5 is awesome |
| 08:21.53 | mdouhan | pinotree: no worries :) |
| 08:21.58 | chavo | rober, afaik 3.5 is next |
| 08:22.22 | SlackUX | it seems they have beat Vista to the special effects look |
| 08:22.26 | pinotree | mdouhan: las thing: so i can choose if i want a forward address or a totally new account with its own space? |
| 08:22.47 | pinotree | in casse of own space, how much is the space? |
| 08:22.51 | mdouhan | pinotree: yes the choice is yours, and you have access to change it yourself at any given time |
| 08:22.55 | mdouhan | 500 MB default |
| 08:22.59 | pinotree | wow |
| 08:23.00 | mdouhan | but can be increased on request |
| 08:23.06 | canllaith | rober: No there wont. |
| 08:23.07 | pinotree | =) thansk! |
| 08:23.19 | rober | hi canllaith ! |
| 08:23.24 | canllaith | It will be 3.5 next |
| 08:23.26 | canllaith | heya rober :) |
| 08:23.29 | rober | :) |
| 08:24.05 | mdouhan | canllaith: no that is sysadmin@kde |
| 08:24.12 | mdouhan | I am only part of sysadmin@kdemail |
| 08:24.39 | canllaith | fair enough |
| 08:25.01 | mdouhan | fair or not thats how it is :) |
| 08:25.04 | canllaith | but I just wondered =) |
| 08:25.12 | canllaith | Heh that is aussie for 'oh ok then' |
| 08:25.23 | mdouhan | well kde.org is only forwarding anyway |
| 08:25.32 | mdouhan | I know that silly |
| 08:25.35 | canllaith | Yup, as was kdemail until you put fruitsalad to the task |
| 08:25.52 | canllaith | or could you always get it hosted and I was just ignorant? |
| 08:25.57 | mdouhan | canllaith: well kdemail ir only forwarding too unless you want it to be otherwise :) |
| 08:26.07 | canllaith | Yup :P |
| 08:26.16 | mdouhan | canllaith: no you are right ( and darn I would have wanted to say you were ignorant ) lol |
| 08:26.20 | canllaith | hahaha |
| 08:26.22 | canllaith | smart ass. |
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| 08:26.27 | mdouhan | yup |
| 08:26.32 | mdouhan | but my ass is getting smaller by the day |
| 08:26.38 | mdouhan | this diet stuff is working out nicely |
| 08:26.44 | canllaith | Seen my latest pics ? I look really cute. </modesty> |
| 08:26.48 | canllaith | Nice! |
| 08:27.21 | canllaith | heh |
| 08:27.27 | canllaith | they are all on my oh so difficult to guess domain name. |
| 08:27.48 | mdouhan | canllaith: I have yes and I agree :P |
| 08:27.54 | rober | nice |
| 08:27.55 | canllaith | I bet no-one could POSSIBLY guess what it was in oh, two guesses. |
| 08:28.15 | canllaith | mdouhan: heh yay! It's always good to have crazy men on the internet you don't even know think you look cute in pics. |
| 08:28.34 | canllaith | Especially ones who look after kolab you use. |
| 08:28.36 | mdouhan | uhmm I am not crazy :P |
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| 08:30.42 | kanllaith | mdouhan: bah. Of course you are. You live with lauri. |
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| 08:31.09 | mdouhan | lol |
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| 08:40.09 | SlackUX | is there any way of superkaramba themes not showing shadows with kompmgr on? |
| 08:40.25 | canllaith | Probably, if you use kwins window specific settings dialog |
| 08:41.30 | SlackUX | what so you can stop the shadow on any window? |
| 08:41.59 | canllaith | Configurable by window classes, I believe so. It's been a while since I used kompmgr though |
| 08:42.02 | canllaith | not since before 3.4 was released |
| 08:42.24 | SlackUX | would be nice |
| 08:43.59 | SlackUX | i'm just blowed over by who good 3.4.5 is, even from svn |
| 08:44.07 | canllaith | 3.4.5 ? |
| 08:44.07 | SlackUX | how* |
| 08:44.31 | canllaith | If you do kde-config --version what does it say ? :\ |
| 08:44.50 | SlackUX | 3.4.91 |
| 08:44.57 | canllaith | ok :) That's actually KDE 3.4 |
| 08:44.58 | SlackUX | beta1 |
| 08:45.11 | SlackUX | oh, Oops |
| 08:45.14 | canllaith | We'll tick the number over to say '3.5' when it gets released, but that's basically what you're using |
| 08:45.15 | SlackUX | :-) |
| 08:45.23 | canllaith | I mean sorry, that's actually KDE 3.5 |
| 08:45.31 | canllaith | Silly fingers typed the wrong number |
| 08:46.16 | SlackUX | so it's 3.5 next? |
| 08:46.22 | canllaith | Yes! Very shortly. |
| 08:46.31 | SlackUX | right |
| 08:46.44 | SlackUX | it's awesome anyway |
| 08:46.49 | canllaith | I love it. |
| 08:46.59 | SlackUX | such a improvement |
| 08:47.20 | canllaith | Every version impresses me more really |
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| 08:47.36 | canllaith | 3.3 was great, 3.4 even better, and 3.5 better still. Makes me pretty excited to see what KDE4 will be like :) |
| 08:47.59 | SlackUX | I was using gnome 2.12 until I tried 3.4.2 and now 3.4.91 |
| 08:48.38 | chavo | canllaith, does the 4.0 branch build at all? |
| 08:49.06 | canllaith | kdelibs builds fine |
| 08:49.14 | SlackUX | with this 3.4.91 you just need arts/kdelibs/kdebase |
| 08:49.17 | canllaith | I think kdebase still requires you to make -k (keep going, ignore errors) |
| 08:49.34 | canllaith | I haven't updated it in 2 weeks though |
| 08:49.39 | chavo | alright, I can't get it to build |
| 08:49.57 | SlackUX | I got xorg from cvs as well :-) |
| 08:50.16 | SlackUX | living on the edge for a change |
| 08:50.22 | SlackUX | indeed |
| 08:53.05 | canllaith | Cool. |
| 08:53.29 | SlackUX | hehe |
| 08:53.54 | canllaith | Well I build my own kernel KDE and xorg, so there aren't many changes in 10.2 that make it worth upgrading for me |
| 08:54.01 | SlackUX | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:54.15 | canllaith | I do also, but I don't want to take the time to do it. |
| 08:54.16 | canllaith | Although =) |
| 08:54.21 | canllaith | mounting the iso loopback |
| 08:54.38 | canllaith | then doing 'upgradpkg *' followed by 'installpkg *' works. |
| 08:54.53 | SlackUX | I like to to a clean install |
| 08:54.56 | canllaith | Well, for xx in $dirs; do pushd $xx blah...... but basically =) |
| 08:55.05 | canllaith | Ah well, my install is already clean. |
| 08:55.10 | canllaith | Squeaky clean! |
| 08:56.10 | SlackUX | heh |
| 08:56.20 | SlackUX | 2.4 is damn slow as well |
| 08:56.49 | SlackUX | straght compile of 2.6.13-ck4 for me |
| 08:57.10 | canllaith | suspend to ram works under 2.4, but is broken for my particular IBM under 2.6 |
| 08:57.19 | SlackUX | damn |
| 08:57.28 | canllaith | It's a little annoying, I'd like to have udev. |
| 08:57.43 | SlackUX | thats a shame because this kernel is damn fast |
| 08:57.56 | SlackUX | and stable |
| 08:57.57 | canllaith | I really don't notice much difference. |
| 08:58.10 | canllaith | Except with sound. Sound skips under high cpu load under 2.4, not under 2.6 |
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| 08:58.29 | SlackUX | -ck kernel is best for desktops |
| 09:00.15 | SlackUX | preemption model is nippy :-) |
| 09:00.46 | rober | there are three preemption options in 2.6.13 |
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| 09:01.10 | SlackUX | yep |
| 09:01.22 | chetanr | hi.. does someone here use the numpad for switching workspaces? |
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| 09:02.54 | rober | canllaith: you live in a beatiful place, the landscapes are impressive |
| 09:03.40 | canllaith | rober, thanks! I have some panoramic pictures if you're interested. http://www.canllaith.org/foo/panoramas/Ruapehu-smaller.jpg |
| 09:03.49 | canllaith | http://www.canllaith.org/foo/panoramas/titahi-bay.jpg |
| 09:04.00 | canllaith | http://www.canllaith.org/foo/panoramas/panorama-768.jpg |
| 09:04.11 | chetanr | i'm not able to use the numpad on my keyboard to enter numbers |
| 09:04.22 | canllaith | chetanr, turn on numlock? :) |
| 09:04.35 | chetanr | canllaith: yes |
| 09:05.31 | SlackUX | kde 3.5 will keep the Vista trolls locked anyway for a bit :-) |
| 09:06.01 | canllaith | chetanr, there is a setting pertaining to numlock in Kcontrol -> Peripherals -> Keyboard for KDE to turn on the numlock when it starts. |
| 09:07.05 | chetanr | canllaith: i don't have Keyboard in my Peripherals list.. i'm using kde 3.5(from svn) |
| 09:07.15 | canllaith | I do, and I'm also using KDE 3.5 from svn. |
| 09:07.16 | rober | canllaith: but... there is something that doesn't appear in most photos: the sun. Here in Spain it's often sunny :P |
| 09:07.35 | canllaith | rober, It is often sunny here too. Two of those panoramas were sunny days =) |
| 09:07.58 | rober | oops |
| 09:08.19 | physos | rober: it is generally a bad idea to photograph in the direction of the sun, no? |
| 09:09.00 | rober | no idea physos, i don't know much about photography :( |
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| 09:09.07 | Flendor | Hello. |
| 09:09.27 | canllaith | Heya =) |
| 09:09.45 | Flendor | Hey there canllaith, how are you? |
| 09:09.57 | Flendor | Long time no chat :) |
| 09:10.07 | canllaith | Good ty :) |
| 09:10.25 | pinotree | hello Flendor! =) |
| 09:11.07 | Flendor | Hey pinotree :) |
| 09:11.32 | canllaith | heh nothing new yet Flendor working on this months article as we speak |
| 09:12.42 | Flendor | Oh.. I see. Well, good luck (there should be a better thing to say instead, like, "may it be easy for you" as we say in Turkish :/ ) |
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| 09:14.22 | chetanr | canllaith: can you try setting KP_END as a shortcut for something(like switching to desktop 1) Then enable numlock and see if you can enter the digit "1" |
| 09:15.23 | canllaith | I am not on a machine with a numeric keyboard right now chetanr. I'm on my laptop. |
| 09:15.35 | chetanr | :-( |
| 09:15.57 | chetanr | :(( |
| 09:16.21 | chavo | chetanr, doesn't work here either |
| 09:16.57 | chetanr | chavo: who do you think is capturing the key? kwin? |
| 09:17.15 | chavo | chetanr, no idea |
| 09:17.25 | chetanr | canllaith: do you have any idea? |
| 09:17.56 | canllaith | I don't, except to try as a new user and see if they also have the same problem. If not, then try changing things about your setup one by one until you find the solution as to what is causing it. |
| 09:18.00 | canllaith | Perhaps it's the mapping of end? |
| 09:18.02 | canllaith | If so, file a bug :) |
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| 09:57.51 | chetanr | chavo: do you also use the numeric pad for shortcuts? |
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| 10:02.14 | chavo | chetanr, no |
| 10:02.49 | chetanr | ok.. i asked as i've just entered a bug and wanted someone else with the same problem to comment too |
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| 10:11.02 | chavo | chetanr, I'll comment on it since I can reproduce it |
| 10:11.59 | chetanr | chavo: thanks.. here is the link http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=112781 |
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| 10:19.41 | chetanr | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:20.50 | Oleg_ | 6:20 a.m. |
| 10:20.55 | Oleg_ | I woke up |
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| 10:35.31 | Oleg_ | back to sleep |
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| 10:48.48 | Oleg_ | up again |
| 10:48.55 | Oleg_ | clench means what? |
| 10:49.03 | Oleg_ | and rigid is what? |
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| 10:50.02 | canllaith | Oleg_, clench is.. .make a fist with your hand, or hold your teeth tightly together with your jaw |
| 10:50.04 | canllaith | that is clench. |
| 10:50.11 | canllaith | Rigid is when something is hard and inflexible |
| 10:50.24 | mdouhan | canllaith: is rigid for example :P |
| 10:50.27 | canllaith | a steel frame is rigid. Someone who refuses to be moved from their opinion is ridgid. |
| 10:51.10 | Oleg_ | thanks |
| 10:51.14 | canllaith | bah mdouhan . If we weren't in public channel I'd ...... :P |
| 10:51.15 | mdouhan | canllaith: no a person who refuses to be moved from their opinion may also be an idiot |
| 10:51.36 | mdouhan | canllaith: dont tease me :P |
| 10:51.53 | canllaith | heh |
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| 11:10.45 | Oleg_ | tentative means what? |
| 11:11.28 | canllaith | Not definite |
| 11:11.54 | Oleg_ | ok |
| 11:11.59 | Oleg_ | thanks |
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| 11:16.56 | Oleg_ | can I say, "Frankly, he was a lot more handsome than the other guy is"? |
| 11:17.13 | Oleg_ | we can use the word frankly in that sentence? |
| 11:20.35 | sredna | Hello |
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| 11:21.17 | sredna | Can someone come up with a way to make a screenshot of a window that is bigger than the screen? |
| 11:22.26 | emeteo | what's happend with cvs-digest.org ? |
| 11:22.50 | emeteo | there isn't svn digest from 02/09 |
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| 11:33.15 | Bundeskanzler | hi |
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| 11:34.18 | Bundeskanzler | my kdm doesnt start anymore and i dont know why, its since i tried to get opengl support for my radeon with xorg |
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| 12:16.22 | anyw | hi |
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| 12:40.07 | anyw | I'm using kate and I would like to remove Documents and Projects tabs but I don't how to do it ... |
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| 12:41.22 | StevenR | kate |
| 12:41.57 | StevenR | anyw: what about just using kwrite? |
| 12:43.13 | anyw | because I love the python/c++ bowser plugins |
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| 12:47.00 | anyw | no ideas ? |
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| 12:47.40 | sredna | anyw: You can't, currently. The next verison of kate have no Projeccts tab at all, but the documents tab remains mandatory |
| 12:48.15 | sredna | anyw: But I don't understand what is wrong with that, it's the main way to navigate kate. |
| 12:50.24 | anyw | I prefer the tool bar extension fo example. |
| 12:53.19 | anyw | Ok, I have another problem : When I close and restart kate, toolbars don't keep their posisition. |
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| 12:55.16 | bram85 | anyw: you mean http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=111926 ? |
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| 12:58.43 | anyw | Yes, it's my problem. |
| 13:01.24 | anyw | Is it working with oldiers versions ? |
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| 13:06.51 | anisX | there is any problem if i using k3b on root ? |
| 13:07.22 | hydrogen | you should run nothing as root that you do not need to |
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| 13:16.47 | anisX | hydrogen: thanks |
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| 13:17.43 | bram85 | anyw: what is "older" ? |
| 13:17.46 | bram85 | 3.3? |
| 13:17.47 | anisX | can i convert story.avi to story.mpeg using k3b ? |
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| 13:18.50 | stylish | does anyone here know why KDE-3.4 is using my pts device |
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| 13:20.04 | anyw | bram85: Is there a version that does not have this bug ? |
| 13:20.30 | jami | this world exists before your existance? |
| 13:20.50 | hydrogen | nope |
| 13:21.15 | jami | why |
| 13:21.20 | hydrogen | because I am god |
| 13:22.14 | bram85 | anyw: i don't know, maybe you have to go back to Kate from KDE 3.2 |
| 13:22.16 | anyw | and svn ? |
| 13:22.51 | jami | then, can you create a thing which is stronger than you? |
| 13:23.09 | bram85 | anyw: probably the bug still exists there, else that bugreport was marked as FIXED |
| 13:23.37 | grepper | anisX: I think you need to use transcode for that, or something that does the same thing |
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| 13:23.58 | anyw | bram85: ok, thank you |
| 13:24.12 | bram85 | anyw: i'm starting kate svn at the moment |
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| 13:24.20 | anisX | grepper: what do u mean by use transcode ? |
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| 13:24.57 | grepper | $ transcode <options> story.avi :) |
| 13:25.22 | bram85 | anyw: the sidebars can be hidden in kate svn, i can see now |
| 13:25.43 | bram85 | kate svn = 3.5 branch |
| 13:26.11 | jami | then, can you create a thing which is stronger than you?>>>>hydrogen |
| 13:26.30 | anisX | grepper: can you teach me how to make it ? |
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| 13:27.03 | hydrogen | ayup |
| 13:27.04 | hydrogen | I can |
| 13:27.05 | anyw | great ! but when you restart kate, is it still working ? |
| 13:27.07 | hydrogen | but I won't! |
| 13:27.11 | bram85 | anyw: the toolbar bug is still there :( |
| 13:27.34 | annma | bram85: what bug? |
| 13:27.35 | jami | but are you a god? |
| 13:27.59 | bram85 | annma: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=111926 |
| 13:28.15 | bram85 | but it's still open, not quite surprising it's not working |
| 13:29.13 | bram85 | anyw: hmm, hiding sidebars is not remembered either :( |
| 13:29.31 | annma | moment, looking |
| 13:30.03 | annma | confirmed yes |
| 13:30.11 | annma | didyou open that bug yourself? |
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| 13:30.19 | indro_ | hi all |
| 13:30.31 | anisX | grepper: what is eMovix in k3b ? |
| 13:30.37 | anyw | bram85: same bug ? |
| 13:31.06 | annma | who did the bug report, bram85 or anyw ? |
| 13:31.17 | indro_ | i want that kdialog --yesno do an output true or false, is that possible? |
| 13:31.37 | anyw | annma: I don't know |
| 13:31.41 | annma | indro_: explain better |
| 13:31.58 | annma | anyw: if you confirm the bug, can you amend the report? same for bram85 |
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| 13:32.23 | annma | confirming it will make it quicker to get fixed |
| 13:32.52 | indro_ | annma: that when i click on yes i get an output true and when click no then get false |
| 13:33.13 | annma | output where? |
| 13:33.33 | indro_ | when do kdialog --getopenurl i become the output from the choosing url |
| 13:34.07 | indro_ | in shell |
| 13:34.46 | indro_ | i want make a python script and read out the output with commands.getoutput("kdialog --yesno 'text'" |
| 13:35.09 | bram85 | anyw: probably the sidebar bug is the same as 111926 |
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| 13:35.25 | indro_ | but it give no output true or false its possible that it does? or how i can read out what the user click? |
| 13:35.34 | annma | bram85: was it you who made the bug report? |
| 13:35.46 | bram85 | annma: no, I just looked it up a few minutes ago |
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| 13:35.56 | annma | can you confirm it? |
| 13:35.57 | grepper | anisX: if you google you should find lots of examples |
| 13:36.12 | bram85 | technically, yes |
| 13:36.33 | annma | that would be good |
| 13:36.34 | bram85 | indro_: that's printed on stdout |
| 13:36.40 | anisX | grepper: if i found the answer at google , i dont asked about it here |
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| 13:38.30 | bram85 | bug 111926 confirmed, and added a comment about the sidebars |
| 13:38.48 | indro_ | bram85: ah ok thx, do you know how i can read stdout with python? |
| 13:39.01 | bram85 | i'm not python guy (yet) |
| 13:39.32 | indro_ | hm ok thanks anyway |
| 13:39.43 | grepper | anisX: what type of mpeg do you want to make ? |
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| 13:40.30 | HilBilly | does kpdf not have any search feature? |
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| 13:41.11 | anisX | grepper: any type sir , i just want to burn story.avi using k3b and make it as vcd movie |
| 13:41.31 | bram85 | HilBilly: it does |
| 13:41.40 | HilBilly | ok .. how do I search? |
| 13:41.48 | HilBilly | couldn't find the search |
| 13:42.02 | bram85 | I guess in the Edit menu |
| 13:42.02 | annma | bram85: I also confirmed |
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| 13:42.32 | spine55 | does anyone know how to change the translucency refresh rate on konsole? |
| 13:42.43 | bram85 | HilBilly: yep, Edit menu, or Ctrl+F |
| 13:42.50 | HilBilly | I found it .. you have to add it to the toolbar |
| 13:42.53 | bram85 | HilBilly: but it depends on the PDF file if you can search or not |
| 13:43.01 | HilBilly | I do not even have an edit menu |
| 13:43.14 | bram85 | hmm? |
| 13:43.43 | HilBilly | oh .. I have the find icon on the toolbar now .. but it doesn't work |
| 13:43.52 | HilBilly | must not allow searching :( |
| 13:44.18 | bram85 | define "it doesn't work" |
| 13:44.28 | bram85 | does the Search window pop up? |
| 13:44.41 | HilBilly | no, it does not pop up |
| 13:44.58 | bram85 | HilBilly: what KDE version are you using? |
| 13:45.39 | HilBilly | 3.4.1 |
| 13:45.55 | bram85 | spine55: AFAIK, there's no such option |
| 13:46.04 | bram85 | HilBilly: ok, that's recent enough |
| 13:46.25 | spine55 | bram85: thanks, its too bad the gnome terminal does the refresh really smoothly |
| 13:47.04 | annma | sredna: ping |
| 13:47.13 | sredna | annma: Pong |
| 13:47.19 | bram85 | HilBilly: from which app are you viewing the PDF? From Konqueror or KPDF itself? |
| 13:47.27 | annma | sredna: did you see the bug we just talked about in Kate? |
| 13:47.38 | annma | toolbar status not kept in config |
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| 13:47.51 | annma | sidebar hidden not kept in config as well |
| 13:47.59 | HilBilly | I started it from a bash shell |
| 13:48.08 | sredna | annma: The problem with the toolbar config is OOOOOOOOOOOOOOLD - as anyone who searches bko will find |
| 13:48.30 | annma | yes but does that mean it is unimportant? |
| 13:48.42 | sredna | annma: The sidebars can be hidden afaik |
| 13:48.50 | annma | the config is not kept |
| 13:49.00 | annma | when the sidebar is hidden |
| 13:49.04 | sredna | annma: No. And it will dissapear when we get to next release, dropping KMDI afaik |
| 13:49.12 | annma | you mean kde4 |
| 13:49.27 | sredna | I'm not really sure, I'm not very active atm |
| 13:49.30 | annma | which is at least 1 year ahead |
| 13:49.40 | annma | :( |
| 13:49.52 | annma | I find this 3.5 release very very poor |
| 13:49.54 | sredna | I hope I get the spirit back.. |
| 13:50.12 | sredna | It can't be worse that 3.4.2 |
| 13:50.21 | annma | not worse but not better either |
| 13:50.24 | sredna | Nothing much have been touched |
| 13:50.28 | bram85 | annma: in overall or Kate only? |
| 13:50.32 | annma | overall |
| 13:50.35 | annma | it's just a mess |
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| 13:50.48 | sredna | No |
| 13:50.53 | annma | the problem is that this release will be used for a long time |
| 13:50.56 | annma | it is |
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| 13:51.12 | annma | lots of problems, lots of bugs |
| 13:51.15 | bram85 | HilBilly: you started KPDF from the bash? |
| 13:51.25 | sredna | Kde 3.4.2 is WAY better than 3.3 |
| 13:51.33 | bram85 | KDE 3.3 was the best KDE3 release in my opinion |
| 13:51.56 | sredna | And even if kde 3.5 didn't get a lot of work, it's still better than 3.4.x |
| 13:52.08 | HilBilly | yes |
| 13:52.15 | sredna | Well, I disagree |
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| 13:52.52 | sredna | Man, I wish other projects would be half as good as KDE |
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| 13:53.22 | sredna | Hi dominik |
| 13:53.48 | haumann | hi sredna |
| 13:53.52 | haumann | annma: ping |
| 13:54.00 | annma | pong |
| 13:54.17 | haumann | annma: what do you mean by sidebar-status? |
| 13:54.32 | annma | mom, writing commit log |
| 13:54.48 | anyw | Is there any patch for the old kate bug ? |
| 13:54.56 | haumann | annma: is it, whether the sidebars are hidden ? Window > Tool Views > Show/Hide Sidebar I mean. |
| 13:54.57 | haumann | ok |
| 13:55.17 | annma | yes |
| 13:55.53 | sredna | anyw: What bug? |
| 13:56.03 | annma | haumann: hide them then quit then when you rerun kate the sidebars are not hidden anymre |
| 13:56.18 | haumann | annma: what Qt version? |
| 13:56.21 | anyw | sredna: Toolbar config |
| 13:56.29 | annma | haumann: either |
| 13:56.35 | haumann | ok :) |
| 13:56.39 | annma | it was confirmed by bram85 here |
| 13:56.58 | annma | and also toolbar status is not kept |
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| 13:57.08 | haumann | will have a look when I find time (maybe in the evening). I testet this and really thought it worked, strange :) |
| 13:57.09 | annma | text only for example |
| 13:57.16 | sredna | anyw: No, not afaik. I believe the problem lies in KMDI, which is a dark and dangerous place from few returns with sanity intact |
| 13:57.26 | annma | kate does not use kconfig xt |
| 13:57.47 | annma | so it's too complicated for an outsider to get into that |
| 13:58.17 | haumann | sredna: we don't use kmdi at all in KDE 3.5 |
| 13:58.20 | sredna | haumann: The toolbar bug is a dup, let me find the one |
| 13:58.32 | haumann | yes, but the old one was closed afaik. |
| 13:58.36 | sredna | Oh, so something did improve in fact :-) |
| 13:58.47 | annma | closed but the bug us still there |
| 13:58.51 | haumann | maybe the KMDI -> KateMDI switch reintroduced the bug somehow :( |
| 13:58.52 | annma | I just tested it |
| 13:59.27 | haumann | annma: I believe you =) |
| 13:59.46 | annma | :) |
| 14:00.02 | haumann | but in KDE 3.4 it is not present, right? |
| 14:00.29 | sredna | I have it, but I might have the new katemdi |
| 14:00.30 | haumann | hm... it is present. |
| 14:00.30 | annma | anyw: what kde version do you have? |
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| 14:00.49 | haumann | 3.4.2, and there it's already present. |
| 14:01.05 | anyw | annma: 3.4.2 |
| 14:01.14 | haumann | regarding the Toolbar but, I don't even know where to look :o |
| 14:01.19 | annma | :( |
| 14:01.33 | annma | what about cullman, can't he fix it? |
| 14:01.41 | haumann | annma: ask him :) |
| 14:01.44 | haumann | but as said, will look in the evening. |
| 14:01.57 | annma | well I am already chasong him about the websites |
| 14:02.03 | annma | chasing |
| 14:02.10 | haumann | he :) have seen that. |
| 14:04.30 | haumann | cu |
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| 14:38.22 | bram85 | anyw: that bug 111926 is invalid, there's no real bug |
| 14:39.14 | anyw | hm ? |
| 14:39.23 | bram85 | anyw: there was only a wrong default option, which prevented saving the window state |
| 14:39.37 | bram85 | anyw: cullmann just committed a fix which turns that option on per default |
| 14:40.35 | anyw | where can i find the fix ? |
| 14:40.55 | bram85 | in the 3.5 branch |
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| 14:41.38 | bram85 | but AFAIK, the option is also in KDE 3.4. maybe your configuration is wrong |
| 14:42.09 | bram85 | in Kate settings, section Application (left), you'll see an option to let Kate store the window configuration |
| 14:45.09 | anyw | You mean "restore window configuration" ? |
| 14:45.18 | bram85 | yep |
| 14:45.33 | anyw | It doesn't work for me |
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| 14:46.38 | bram85 | anyw: hmm, i think you should wait for 3.5 then. that one is quite different from the current kate. |
| 14:47.47 | anyw | ok thank you. |
| 14:47.56 | HilBilly | bram .. just to follow up .. I gave up on kpdf, kghostview, and gpdf ... I could not get any of them to allow me to search the book. I took it over to my dad's windows computer and searched it with adobe with no problem at all. |
| 14:48.20 | HilBilly | Had to swallow my pride tho |
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| 14:50.40 | sredna | HilBilly: You need the latest kpdf to get the search option, or get acroread 7.0 |
| 14:51.16 | HilBilly | thanks, sredna .. I was thinking about installing adobe, now that they have a linux version |
| 14:51.29 | HilBilly | almost like admitting surrender tho |
| 14:51.47 | bram85 | HilBilly: as I said, some PDF's are searchable, some are not. |
| 14:51.54 | sredna | Well, I installed it because kpdf is still not good enough to handle the files that scribus produces, and it's actually very good |
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| 14:52.03 | bram85 | sredna: latest KPDF, I think 3.4.x is sufficient |
| 14:52.26 | sredna | annma: I think cullmann fixed the toolbar problem, at least he claims so |
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| 14:54.12 | bram85 | sredna: that's true, it was just a wrong default value |
| 14:54.23 | bram85 | it was not a real bug, actually |
| 14:54.28 | sredna | :) |
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| 14:56.49 | annma | cool |
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| 14:57.20 | annma | thanks |
| 14:57.21 | pedri2 | is there a kde alternative to gnome meeting? |
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| 14:59.13 | sredna | pedri2: Konference |
| 14:59.35 | sredna | pedri2: In konqueror, type 'apps:konference' in the address field and hit return ;) |
| 15:00.32 | anyw | Is it possible to just compile kate 3.5 and to use it with kde 3.4.2 ? |
| 15:01.13 | annma | anyw: wew, not sure |
| 15:01.26 | annma | it might needs kdelibs from 3.5 |
| 15:02.10 | pedri2 | probably asking too much, but is konference included in kubuntu repo? |
| 15:04.51 | bram85 | pedri2: kubuntu hoary packages has konference 0.1 (source: http://www.mpe.mpg.de/~ach/kubuntu/hoary-experimental/Pkgs.php) |
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| 15:10.35 | anyw | annma: Do you think I can just compiling kdebase and kdelibs from svn ? |
| 15:10.44 | annma | yes |
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| 15:10.55 | annma | but then not sure the rest will work on them |
| 15:11.01 | annma | use a new user |
| 15:11.20 | annma | it'll avoid mixes andbreakages |
| 15:11.30 | anyw | sure, thanks |
| 15:11.34 | annma | did you already compile kde? |
| 15:11.41 | anyw | yes |
| 15:11.50 | annma | ok so you know what you are doing |
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| 15:17.48 | anyw | Is kde 3.5 bea or alpha ? |
| 15:18.04 | annma | beta |
| 15:18.08 | anyw | ok |
| 15:18.20 | annma | well tthe beta 1 will be out soon |
| 15:18.30 | annma | has some trouble with qt3.3.5 |
| 15:20.51 | annma | but you will ot use qt3.3.5, I suppose |
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| 15:58.58 | ironfroggy | where could i find a list of all the options possible in ktaskbarrc? |
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| 16:01.36 | frb | the source? |
| 16:02.25 | ironfroggy | i was afraid that was the answer i would get/. |
| 16:05.29 | ironfroggy | any idea where to look? |
| 16:06.31 | pinotree | ironfroggy: maybe in the wiki (wiki.kde.org), but i'm not sure |
| 16:06.40 | ironfroggy | nm, i found it in source |
| 16:08.24 | ironfroggy | wow that is so much better |
| 16:08.29 | ironfroggy | there are too many hidden settings |
| 16:08.43 | jstubbs | speaking of 3.5-beta1, svn was tagged several days ago.. currently, the "minor testing period" is under way? |
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| 16:09.51 | ironfroggy | one more quick q: is there an easy way to get ktaskbar reload the rc file? |
| 16:11.06 | frb | no, not really, since I still say what you're trying to do is broken |
| 16:11.13 | frb | 'bah, wrong window |
| 16:11.50 | ironfroggy | im trying to change some settings the the taskbar config isnt listing (activate, raise, or minimize a window on click) |
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| 16:18.04 | Octane | I'm not sure what started this problem -- but after a few minutes in a new KDE session, icons for the search engines in Konqueror disappear, my Wallet doesn't store passwords, cookies don't work in Konqui, and hotkeys don't work |
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| 16:19.32 | ironfroggy | are you out of memory or harddrive space? funky things can happen. |
| 16:19.42 | Octane | ironfroggy: no way |
| 16:19.51 | Octane | 1 gig mem and 80 gb free |
| 16:20.11 | ironfroggy | you have twice as much free as i have in my entire harddrive. :-( |
| 16:20.20 | Octane | LOL! :( |
| 16:20.30 | Octane | heck if i get this shit working we can share my free space! |
| 16:20.35 | ironfroggy | im no expert, but ive just seen a full drive cause errors like that with cookies and passwords. |
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| 16:20.59 | ironfroggy | prices are dropping. ive seen 250 gig drives for 70 bucks. |
| 16:21.03 | ironfroggy | so dont worry about me. |
| 16:21.12 | Octane | ironfroggy: but this is more than that w/ something like search engine icons -- which appear on session start but then disappear later (blank icons instead) |
| 16:22.00 | ironfroggy | which could be possible if kde drops them when they arent needed and reloads them when you come back. |
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| 16:32.56 | _antibios | ironfroggy: does your search engine drop down come back after restarting KDE or just restarting konq? |
| 16:34.24 | anyw | hu ? |
| 16:34.36 | anyw | wtf ? ERROR:kdewidgets/Makefile.am: unknown source extension .qrc for kdewidgets.la |
| 16:35.14 | anyw | when compiling kdelibs |
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| 16:43.26 | GraveDigger | hi there |
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| 16:44.24 | forevertheuni | hi i'm using kwebdesktop in my 4 desktop is possible to just put the text in the background+ a picture I choose? |
| 16:44.55 | forevertheuni | text+pics |
| 16:45.06 | GraveDigger | could anyone please tell me, how i tell kmail-3.5_alpha1 to use a special directory for imap? i store my personal mail in ~/Post but when i attemp to connect to my imap server kmail lists my whole ~ ... and crashes/freezes |
| 16:48.53 | mart_k | GraveDigger: Use a namespace. |
| 16:49.12 | GraveDigger | personal? other users? shared? |
| 16:49.55 | mart_k | GraveDigger: I think personal. |
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| 16:50.29 | mart_k | GraveDigger: The contents must be a imap subdirectory. |
| 16:50.44 | GraveDigger | when kmail retrieves the namespaces there are default values entered like #mh/ #mhinbox |
| 16:50.49 | GraveDigger | what does that mean? |
| 16:51.17 | mdouhan | GraveDigger: heh change from uw imap to something sane :) |
| 16:51.37 | mdouhan | those are differenet IMAP namespaces |
| 16:51.38 | GraveDigger | FSCK - that imapd worked so well until now!!! :( |
| 16:52.09 | mdouhan | GraveDigger: let me assure you that uw imap is borked in more ways you want to know about :) |
| 16:53.11 | GraveDigger | :( |
| 16:53.14 | GraveDigger | crap |
| 16:53.20 | GraveDigger | my whole mails are gone!!!! |
| 16:53.36 | mdouhan | and you said your imapd worked fine? |
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| 16:54.27 | GraveDigger | at least until now |
| 16:54.27 | GraveDigger | :( |
| 16:54.57 | GraveDigger | so what else to use if NOT wuimapd? |
| 16:55.06 | GraveDigger | *uwimapd |
| 16:55.23 | mdouhan | cyrus ? |
| 16:55.23 | GraveDigger | courier? |
| 16:55.26 | mdouhan | courier |
| 16:55.27 | mart_k | GraveDigger: I use courier-imap. |
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| 16:55.39 | mdouhan | I am a cyrus fan because I use kolab |
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| 16:55.46 | GraveDigger | mart_k: pretty successful i guess? |
| 16:55.47 | mdouhan | but the best to use is the one you feel comfortable with |
| 16:56.50 | mart_k | GraveDigger: It works without problems here. |
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| 16:57.25 | Spudchat | hi everyone |
| 16:57.35 | mart_k | GraveDigger: Which imap-server is most suitable also depends on your distribution. |
| 16:58.11 | Oleg_ | people, where is kde 3.5 alpha on the ftp server? |
| 16:58.34 | GraveDigger | mart_k: gentoo linux? |
| 16:59.05 | Oleg_ | oh |
| 16:59.07 | Oleg_ | found it |
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| 17:00.01 | Keira | #suse |
| 17:00.23 | mart_k | GraveDigger: I also have Gentoo, and courier works quite out of the box (note that I don't say cyrus doesn't). |
| 17:00.51 | mart_k | GraveDigger: Courier uses maildir as primairy type mailbox, btw. |
| 17:01.32 | GraveDigger | shit ... and all my mails are stored in mbox files :( |
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| 17:01.38 | GraveDigger | is there a way to convert them? |
| 17:02.05 | mdouhan | sure |
| 17:02.13 | mdouhan | there are scripts for mboxtomaildir |
| 17:02.21 | Oleg_ | 3.4.90 and 3.5-alpha1 directories on the ftp server are the same thing? |
| 17:02.30 | Oleg_ | they contain exactly the same files? |
| 17:02.42 | bssteph | yes, one is a symlink to the other |
| 17:02.47 | Oleg_ | ok |
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| 17:33.00 | Kollo | gentoo, kde-3.4: I want to know, where to find the standard mouse themes of kde |
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| 17:34.14 | pinotree | Kollo: kcontrol -> perhiperals -> mouse -> theme tab |
| 17:35.39 | Kollo | i know |
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| 17:36.03 | Kollo | but i want to know where it is saved, because I want to install a theme of a friend |
| 17:36.36 | pinotree | maybe ~/.icons/ |
| 17:36.43 | Kollo | and on his machine it was there by default |
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| 17:36.56 | Kollo | ~./icons/ is empty |
| 17:36.59 | apt | Kollo: okay |
| 17:37.52 | Kollo | by the way - on his machine runs debian with kde-3.3 |
| 17:38.12 | mart_k | Kollo: Have you used the split ebuilds for kde? |
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| 17:38.28 | Kollo | split ebuilds |
| 17:38.39 | Kollo | ? |
| 17:38.44 | Kollo | what does it mean? |
| 17:39.32 | mart_k | Kollo: KDE can be installed with every packet (for example kdebase) splitted into seperate programs. |
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| 17:40.04 | Kollo | as far as I remember I did emerge kde |
| 17:40.34 | mart_k | Kollo: If you used split ebuild, you maybe have to emerge kdeartwork-iconthemes or kdeartwork-styles |
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| 17:41.27 | mart_k | Kollo: Ok, then you have most likely used the monolithic ebuilds. |
| 17:41.29 | Kollo | thank you |
| 17:41.47 | Kollo | I'm currently emerging these packets |
| 17:41.48 | Maneit | What are the min. requirements for KDE3.4? |
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| 17:45.09 | mart_k | Kollo: Hmm, I think I read your question incorrect. |
| 17:46.08 | Maneit | Anyone? What is required from my computer to get KDE3.4 to run smooth (as in Mhz, ram etc)? |
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| 17:46.44 | baafie | I'd suggest 512MB RAM, 1Ghz+ processor |
| 17:46.52 | mart_k | Kollo: The themes are installed in /usr/share/cursors/xorg-x11/{themename}/cursors and comes with x11. |
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| 17:47.02 | frb | 64bit 6GHz prcessor and 24G or ram! |
| 17:47.12 | Maneit | haha :) |
| 17:47.21 | Maneit | But really.. it won't run okay on ha p2 300mhz, right? |
| 17:47.31 | Maneit | a* |
| 17:47.35 | frb | it really depends how much of an eyecandy sucker you are |
| 17:47.47 | Maneit | Minimum :) |
| 17:47.53 | frb | Maneit: it will be find, as long as you use a simple theme, and don't run OOo |
| 17:47.58 | baafie | you can turn the cpu used for graphics down to a minimum |
| 17:48.12 | Kollo | thx :) |
| 17:48.14 | Maneit | frb: plastik, thats not a simple theme, right? :) |
| 17:48.18 | frb | yes, it is |
| 17:48.22 | Maneit | it is? |
| 17:48.23 | StevenR | Maneit: there's no reason why it cannot run on a p2....i've run it on a P200 and it was reasonably fast...bit clunky at points, but still perfectly usable |
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| 17:48.25 | Kollo | that's exactly what I searched |
| 17:48.43 | frb | I had it running on a P3-450 with thin-keramic just fine |
| 17:49.20 | mart_k | Kollo: np |
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| 17:50.33 | Maneit | StevenR: Allright :) |
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| 17:54.53 | GraveDigger | mart_k: did you emerge courier WITH mysql? |
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| 17:56.02 | SbCl3 | does anyone here play that game kbounce? |
| 17:56.55 | annma | not really |
| 17:57.00 | annma | what's up? |
| 17:57.27 | SbCl3 | well two things |
| 17:57.41 | mart_k | GraveDigger: I always have mysql in my use flags, but don't use it for authentication. |
| 17:58.06 | SbCl3 | a) when a ball hits the end of an undone rod, and one side has already touched the ground, why does it not take a life? |
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| 17:58.29 | SbCl3 | b) is getting to level 33 pretty good? ^_^ |
| 17:59.12 | GraveDigger | mart_k: hmm...so i could also configure courier without any need for mysql? |
| 17:59.14 | annma | did you look at the bug reports? |
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| 18:00.05 | annma | SbCl3: for 1) |
| 18:00.29 | mart_k | GraveDigger: It can use the login-name for authentication, so mysql is not strictly needed. |
| 18:00.31 | SbCl3 | http://bugs.kde.org/simple_search.cgi?id=kbounce i don't think it's here |
| 18:00.47 | GraveDigger | mart_k: alright ... thx! |
| 18:00.59 | mart_k | GraveDigger: np |
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| 18:01.12 | bssteph | i play kbounce, i thought 1) was intentional |
| 18:01.33 | bssteph | it lets you purposefully make line segments |
| 18:01.52 | SbCl3 | oh |
| 18:01.57 | markey | woooh, queensryche is gonna release Operation Mindcrime early next year |
| 18:02.03 | markey | looking forward to that |
| 18:02.07 | markey | erm |
| 18:02.10 | SbCl3 | i think i found a bug... |
| 18:02.11 | markey | Operation Mindcrime II |
| 18:02.13 | annma | did you read the manual, SbCl3 ? |
| 18:02.19 | SbCl3 | <_< |
| 18:02.20 | SbCl3 | >_> |
| 18:02.29 | markey | woops |
| 18:02.34 | bssteph | and the farthest i got in it was level 55 before i got sick of playing ;) |
| 18:03.08 | SbCl3 | when you click and both ends are not touching walls, and then you make another one, sometimes it only ever touches one wall |
| 18:03.13 | bssteph | 33 is pretty good though, past that you need to start doing various tricks, like line segments, and trapping a lot of balls in really small boxes |
| 18:03.36 | SbCl3 | i usually settled when i got them in 2x2 boxes |
| 18:04.25 | bssteph | if i had kbounce installed i'd check out the maybe-bug you mentioned, but i don't at the moment :| |
| 18:04.36 | SbCl3 | i just reproduced it |
| 18:04.39 | SbCl3 | i'll take a screenshot |
| 18:06.02 | SbCl3 | http://sbcl3.homelinux.org/kounce-bug.png |
| 18:06.15 | SbCl3 | those two open walls were not made by the balls hitting the ends |
| 18:06.41 | bssteph | i see |
| 18:07.01 | bssteph | might be a bug, i'm not sure. you should check the documentation to see if it's mentioned or track down the maintainer |
| 18:07.21 | SbCl3 | k |
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| 18:16.49 | pinotree | :-) PhilRod |
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| 18:17.11 | PhilRod | evening pinotree |
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| 18:20.28 | chetanr | hi.. does kicker not support any kind of keyboard navigation? |
| 18:20.43 | Oleg_ | how often does kde 3.5 alpha crash? |
| 18:20.52 | Oleg_ | I hope the question isn't dumb |
| 18:21.21 | PhilRod | Oleg_, once every twenty minutes, if the moon isn't full. When the moon is full, it crashes every time the number of minutes past the hour is prime |
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| 18:21.35 | PhilRod | chetanr, what sort of keyboard navigation do you want to do? |
| 18:22.53 | chetanr | PhilRod: select the various icons (including the ones in the systray) and hit enter to launch or the context menu key to get the right-click menu |
| 18:22.55 | Oleg_ | I guess your answer means my question was dumb :) |
| 18:23.27 | PhilRod | Oleg_, indeed - it'll crash more often for some people on some systems. It depends on a million and one things |
| 18:23.36 | Oleg_ | yeah |
| 18:23.48 | PhilRod | but if you're asking about the general stability, I've been using 3.5 branch as my main work system for ages, and it's fine |
| 18:23.55 | Oleg_ | cool |
| 18:23.56 | clausye | yepp |
| 18:24.05 | PhilRod | chetanr, not that I know of, I'm afraid :-/ |
| 18:24.07 | chetanr | PhilRod: is it possible to make kicker comeup/hide with the "Win" key? |
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| 18:24.21 | PhilRod | chetanr, I expect that's doable |
| 18:24.35 | PhilRod | provided that you have Win mapped to a non-modifier key |
| 18:25.03 | chetanr | PhilRod: i'm unable to find a dcop call |
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| 18:43.02 | freddy | Hey guys, am using SuSE 9.3 with KDE 3.4, I use Beep Media Player version 0.9.7 to listen to music, and sometimes a message shows that sais "Coudln't open audio"... this happens too when I enter some websites with background sound... is there a fix to this? |
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| 18:43.33 | oGALAXYo | yeah, use a kde app instead |
| 18:43.35 | Dogaosete | ola |
| 18:43.36 | oGALAXYo | like amaroK |
| 18:43.49 | ChrisiD | whats the tool that would let me edit the start menu? |
| 18:43.52 | Dogaosete | alguem |
| 18:44.09 | hydrogen | freddy: you need dmix or arts running |
| 18:44.13 | baafie | is there a way to improve arts' latency other than patching my kernel? |
| 18:44.16 | hydrogen | oGALAXYo: the app won't matter |
| 18:44.17 | mart_k | ChrisiD: kmenuedit |
| 18:44.24 | ChrisiD | mark: ok thanks |
| 18:44.30 | hydrogen | baafie: its called don't use arts and stop stalking me! |
| 18:44.44 | mart_k | ChrisiD: np |
| 18:44.47 | baafie | hydrogen: you shush. |
| 18:44.50 | oGALAXYo | hydrogen: i know but then this is a KDE channel on purpose and beep media player iirc is gtk based. |
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| 18:45.04 | hydrogen | that button is way too close |
| 18:45.22 | ChrisiD | whats a tool i can get so i can right click on a tar file in konqueror and click extract? |
| 18:45.25 | hydrogen | oGALAXYo: but suggesting to use a kde media player will not fix the problem, so it was not helpful |
| 18:46.03 | haumann | annma: ping |
| 18:46.09 | annma | pong |
| 18:46.14 | mart_k | ChrisiD: I think "ark" can do that. |
| 18:46.15 | haumann | annma: is the bug fixed? |
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| 18:46.20 | haumann | cullmann changed the default. |
| 18:46.27 | annma | haumann: to be frank I did not try it yet |
| 18:46.33 | ChrisiD | mart_k: ok ill check that out |
| 18:46.42 | annma | I'll update kdebase if the fix is in kdebase |
| 18:47.17 | haumann | annma: no need to hurry. |
| 18:47.38 | haumann | it's not really a fix, you can try it even without updating |
| 18:47.57 | annma | yes? |
| 18:48.09 | haumann | just check in the "Sessions" config page that "remember window configuration" (or something like that) is activated. |
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| 18:48.52 | annma | oh my |
| 18:48.58 | annma | how badly phrased |
| 18:49.11 | annma | at least there's QWhatsThis help |
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| 18:50.02 | freddy | I agree with Hydrogen... need to know if there's a solution to this... |
| 18:50.03 | haumann | you can change it in trunk if you can come up with something better :) |
| 18:50.16 | hydrogen | freddy: you need to either output to arts or dmix |
| 18:51.10 | haumann | annma: still the question :) does it work now? |
| 18:51.27 | annma | ah yes! |
| 18:51.34 | freddy | hydrogen: How do I do that? I'm new to this... |
| 18:51.35 | annma | it's long to open the session |
| 18:52.01 | annma | well, shouldn't this be default then? |
| 18:52.14 | annma | is it what Christoph did, to check it as default? |
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| 18:52.33 | haumann | annma: yes, this is how cullmann fixed the bug: changed the default to remember the config. |
| 18:52.42 | annma | cool |
| 18:52.55 | annma | that's how it should be as any other kde apps have that setting |
| 18:53.11 | annma | I mean, all kde apps remember the windows settings |
| 18:53.31 | haumann | yes, I agree |
| 18:53.44 | annma | I would not really have thought about a setting |
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| 18:53.51 | annma | is the bug report closed then? |
| 18:54.29 | Tm_T | strange... |
| 18:54.36 | haumann | yes |
| 18:54.38 | Tm_T | oh, and hi o/ :) |
| 18:54.54 | annma | cool |
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| 18:55.07 | Tm_T | I have a problem with titlebar buttons |
| 18:55.54 | anyw | I have a problem during kdelibs compilation : ERROR:kdewidgets/Makefile.am: unknown source extension .qrc for kdewidgets.la |
| 18:56.08 | Tm_T | shade button doesn't appear :/ |
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| 18:57.10 | anyw | Any idea ? |
| 18:58.13 | Tm_T | humm, maybe my windeco doesn't have shade button (knifty) |
| 18:58.36 | annma | haumann: thanks, good work |
| 18:58.48 | haumann | annma: how do you like the sidebar hiding? =) |
| 18:59.00 | annma | I never hide them to be frank |
| 18:59.08 | haumann | ok :) |
| 18:59.17 | frb | you can't be frank, I'm frank |
| 18:59.19 | annma | what I like the most is the Sessions feature |
| 18:59.23 | annma | lol |
| 18:59.37 | haumann | yes, cullmann's good job :) |
| 18:59.47 | annma | Kate is my most used tool and the sessions make it eaier for switching between tasks |
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| 19:00.16 | annma | I don't find any big bugs in Kate in fact |
| 19:00.27 | haumann | My stable kde is still 3.4, so I don't have sessions yet. |
| 19:00.39 | haumann | oh I do :) |
| 19:01.49 | frb | kate still tells me that this smb:/ dir doesn't exist |
| 19:02.19 | insanekane | annma: how does the "Project" in Kate work ? |
| 19:02.30 | insanekane | rather, does it work at all ? |
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| 19:02.40 | frb | and the string "smb:" odoesn't exist in ~/.kde/share/apps/kate |
| 19:02.58 | sredna | insanekane: It's been removed from the latest version |
| 19:03.15 | sredna | insanekane: And replaced by sessions, which provides named sessions |
| 19:03.18 | insanekane | sredna: hmm, i would think thats bad ... but then, i wouldn't know :) |
| 19:03.24 | insanekane | sredna: great super :) |
| 19:03.46 | baafie | I can't get kcontrol to work properly. It shows no configuration items and it displays this message in the console: "kcontrol: WARNING: No K menu group with X-KDE-BaseGroup=settings found ! Defaulting to Settings/". Removing ~/.kde has no effect. Any ideas? |
| 19:04.03 | annma | insanekane: I don't use the Project feature if there is ever one |
| 19:04.12 | insanekane | sredna: currently, I cannot have 2 simultaneous sessions of Kate with different files opened ... is this a problem with my distro ? |
| 19:04.20 | insanekane | annma: ok, thanks anyway |
| 19:04.58 | annma | insanekane: Kate allows you different sessions |
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| 19:05.09 | annma | you can assimilate a session to a project probably |
| 19:05.26 | Tm_T | ok, no shade button in knifty, I'm shocked |
| 19:05.31 | annma | like I have one coding files in 1 session |
| 19:05.38 | annma | for one app |
| 19:05.52 | insanekane | annma: yes, thats what sredna just told me |
| 19:06.08 | annma | :) sorry, did not read |
| 19:06.16 | annma | the session feature is better |
| 19:06.19 | insanekane | annma: np |
| 19:06.51 | insanekane | the question is ... can i have 2 *instances* of Kate (with different sessions in each) running at the same time ? |
| 19:07.26 | annma | insanekane: yes |
| 19:07.30 | annma | just tried it |
| 19:07.39 | annma | I usually just switch between sessions |
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| 19:08.03 | insanekane | annma: cool, its a good thing :) |
| 19:08.47 | insanekane | annma: i like Kate ... but its deficient for multilingual text ... probably because of the shaping/rendering implementation. hope they fix it soon (atleast with Qt4) |
| 19:09.02 | annma | multilingual text? |
| 19:09.15 | annma | I like Kate because I can render all languages |
| 19:09.27 | annma | was working on Bengali recently |
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| 19:09.59 | insanekane | annma: try Malayalam .. got lots of character-break problems (ie, cursor movement issues) |
| 19:10.29 | annma | and it is well supported in other editors? |
| 19:10.35 | insanekane | annma: it is in kedit :) |
| 19:10.37 | freddy | Hydrogen: Have arts installed on my system... and looked into beep preferences and found Output plugins... the selected option that I have is "OSS Output Plugin", is this it? |
| 19:10.45 | insanekane | annma: ie, it is supported in kedit |
| 19:10.51 | annma | hmm |
| 19:10.54 | Tm_T | sorry 'bout bothering you fellows, out -> |
| 19:11.04 | annma | I did not test that one yet |
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| 19:11.07 | insanekane | annma: working on Bengali ? as in shaping engine work ? |
| 19:11.27 | annma | no, as in text files work |
| 19:11.34 | insanekane | annma: ? |
| 19:11.39 | annma | Bengali support in my app which is KHangMan |
| 19:11.46 | insanekane | annma: ah right :) |
| 19:11.51 | annma | I did not succeed in including it |
| 19:11.54 | hydrogen | freddy: no, you should select arts output plgun |
| 19:12.12 | annma | very difficult as 1 letter in Bengali is composed of several characters |
| 19:12.36 | insanekane | annma: in that case, Malayalam is useless for you ... its difficult to make a good hangman game in Malayalam ... without making it overly complex |
| 19:12.37 | Oleg_ | hurtle means moving fast? |
| 19:12.54 | Oleg_ | can I say, "I hurtled forward"? |
| 19:13.00 | annma | insanekane: I guess the hangman game is not played in some languages |
| 19:13.05 | annma | just im[possible |
| 19:13.27 | insanekane | annma: yes, the same problem in Malayalam ... the thing is there are about 900 conjuncts/ligatures :) |
| 19:13.30 | gmg9 | one distro in there Ankurbangla, its full bengali linux |
| 19:13.36 | gmg9 | livecd |
| 19:13.37 | annma | weew |
| 19:13.38 | PhilRod | Oleg_: yes, that's correct |
| 19:13.44 | freddy | hydrogen: The only options that I have there are ALSA 0.9.7 output plugin, esound output plugin, Og(g)re 0.2.2 and OSS output plugin. |
| 19:13.49 | insanekane | annma: yep .. its not playable in malayalam (or indic afaict) |
| 19:14.02 | hydrogen | freddy: you may need to install arts plugin from your distros repository |
| 19:14.30 | Oleg_ | can I use the word frankly in this sentence: "Frankly, he was a lot more handsome than the other guy was"? |
| 19:14.31 | freddy | that's the thing... when I go to YAST it shows that I already have it installed on my system |
| 19:14.35 | annma | is Malayalam supported in kde? |
| 19:14.51 | annma | insanekane: I did not manage the Bengali support for KTurtle as well |
| 19:14.59 | PhilRod | Oleg_: yes |
| 19:15.04 | Oleg_ | cool, thanks! |
| 19:15.09 | freddy | hydrogen: that's the thing... when I go to YAST it shows that I already have it installed on my system |
| 19:15.19 | hydrogen | shrugs |
| 19:15.25 | insanekane | annma: what do you mean "did not manage" ... do you mean you are not the coder ? or that it was not done ? |
| 19:15.42 | annma | I am the coder but in KDE I could not do it |
| 19:16.01 | insanekane | annma: its probably best to leave KTurtle (LOGO) programming in Latin atleast in the Indian context |
| 19:16.02 | annma | those languages are not used in KDE right now for data |
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| 19:16.23 | annma | insanekane: the aim of LOGO is to have translated instructions |
| 19:16.26 | insanekane | annma: you mean Kdegames ... not kde right ? |
| 19:16.36 | annma | to reach young kids |
| 19:16.36 | insanekane | annma: yes i understand the aim of LOGO :) |
| 19:16.38 | annma | kdeedu |
| 19:16.43 | annma | part of kde |
| 19:16.45 | insanekane | yes ... |
| 19:17.03 | annma | I mean that in kde there is no support for those langugaes yet except maybe translations |
| 19:17.08 | ChrisiD | i want to emerge kde 3.4.2 in gentoo can anyboy help me out? |
| 19:17.11 | Oleg_ | Can I put the verb in the second part of a sentence in the present form if the 1st part was in the past form? |
| 19:17.17 | Oleg_ | For example, |
| 19:17.19 | insanekane | annma: ive had really bad discussions with you earlier on such issues ... so lets just agree to disagree ok ? :) |
| 19:17.20 | annma | ChrisiD: ask in #gentoo |
| 19:17.26 | Oleg_ | "She showed him what love is". |
| 19:17.37 | ChrisiD | annma: ill try but they may just redirect me here ill be back |
| 19:17.38 | annma | insanekane: ah, I don't remember |
| 19:17.54 | insanekane | Oleg_: http://stipo.larc.nasa.gov/sp7084/sp7084cont.html |
| 19:17.55 | annma | ChrisiD: tell them we supprot tarballs or kde from svn |
| 19:17.58 | annma | not emerge |
| 19:18.13 | annma | insanekane: sorry then |
| 19:18.25 | insanekane | annma: sorry about what ? |
| 19:18.35 | annma | bad discussions |
| 19:18.37 | insanekane | needn't be sorry to disagree |
| 19:18.41 | insanekane | yeah well |
| 19:18.45 | insanekane | nm |
| 19:18.59 | annma | I have so many discussions that I really don't remember |
| 19:19.02 | annma | ;) |
| 19:19.03 | PhilRod | ChrisiD: there's also #kde-gentoo or #gentoo-kde |
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| 19:19.16 | annma | (you pay, of ocurse) |
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| 19:19.30 | PhilRod | oh, and for crying out loud, it's called "installing" - everyone else calls it that: why not gentoo users? |
| 19:19.50 | insanekane | annma: hehe, i don't have alcoholic drinks ... but thanks anyway :) |
| 19:20.01 | annma | :) |
| 19:20.24 | annma | ChrisiD: we redirect all distro-related installation to the distro channels |
| 19:20.35 | ChrisiD | annma: ok |
| 19:20.55 | insanekane | sredna: so, will Kate be moving to the Qt4 shaper/render ... or will it continue to use its own shaping engine/character-breaker ? |
| 19:21.00 | Oleg_ | insanekane: thanks |
| 19:21.02 | annma | PhilRod: 1 question, can the docs be improved after 3.5 is out? for 3.5.1? |
| 19:21.05 | insanekane | Oleg_: np |
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| 19:21.33 | insanekane | Oleg_: but ... did it really help you ? |
| 19:22.01 | Oleg_ | looking in the part "sentence structure" |
| 19:22.07 | insanekane | ah ok |
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| 19:22.25 | PhilRod | annma: usually, no, but we might come to some new arrangement for 3.5, since it's so long till the next release |
| 19:22.34 | annma | PhilRod: I do hope so |
| 19:22.48 | annma | I started some improvements on kdevelop doc but was too late |
| 19:22.56 | PhilRod | yes, I think we will need something like that |
| 19:23.09 | annma | :) glad you think like me |
| 19:23.11 | insanekane | Oleg_: but i think yes ... "She showed him what love is". is probably correct. |
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| 19:24.08 | Oleg_ | native English speakers can confirm that sentence is correct? |
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| 19:24.47 | annma | it is |
| 19:25.03 | insanekane | Oleg_: native English ? ;) |
| 19:25.07 | annma | well I am not native but I lived in england |
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| 19:26.03 | insanekane | She showed him what love was ... is wrong in any case |
| 19:26.36 | annma | I agreed with "She showed him what love is" |
| 19:26.50 | insanekane | annma: yep, me too :) |
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| 19:28.49 | Oleg_ | isn't there the rule that the second part of a sentence should be in the past form if the first part of the sentence is? |
| 19:29.00 | thiago | no |
| 19:29.10 | mdouhan | no |
| 19:29.25 | thiago | you can speak of general truths for instance |
| 19:29.25 | insanekane | no |
| 19:29.39 | Oleg_ | I am trying to find it on that page |
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| 19:31.06 | PhilRod | you can find almost any rule you like in English, and I can probably find an example that's acceptable English, but which breaks the rule :-) |
| 19:31.20 | insanekane | Oleg_: Sequence of tenses |
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| 19:31.27 | insanekane | Oleg_: look for "Sequence of tenses" |
| 19:31.46 | insanekane | PhilRod: perhaps u are reading the grammar the wrong way ? |
| 19:32.21 | thiago | isn't it interesting that you must know grammer in order to read grammar? :) |
| 19:32.42 | insanekane | thiago: indeed :) |
| 19:33.00 | baafie | grammar is only of interest to those who practice it :) |
| 19:33.20 | PhilRod | nah, grammar is important to anyone who speaks a language :-) |
| 19:33.34 | annma | yes |
| 19:33.37 | insanekane | Oleg_: section 1.4.1 Tense (under Grammar) |
| 19:33.41 | Oleg_ | thanks |
| 19:33.45 | annma | more ove, who writes it |
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| 19:39.01 | ChrisiD | can i ask here what the use flags are: kdeenablefinal kdexdeltas xinerama i see them in a lot of kde packages |
| 19:39.42 | annma | use flags? |
| 19:39.49 | baafie | sounds like gentoo to me |
| 19:39.55 | annma | ah |
| 19:40.01 | ChrisiD | nevermind |
| 19:40.10 | ChrisiD | found something on a pedia |
| 19:40.16 | ChrisiD | err wiki |
| 19:40.17 | annma | ChrisiD: we use ./configure --help |
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| 19:40.32 | annma | to see the flags list and what the defaults are |
| 19:40.44 | ChrisiD | oh ok |
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| 19:41.07 | annma | and 1 tip: just use the default ones |
| 19:41.15 | PhilRod | ~split-ebuilds |
| 19:41.18 | apt | If you didn't build the whole of a KDE module, we can't offer support. See http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-devel&m=110806759516927&w=2 for the reason. Try #gentoo if you don't want to install the full KDE module. |
| 19:41.27 | annma | don't try to overdo it with lots of optimizations and flags |
| 19:41.39 | PhilRod | ChrisiD: heed that warning (kindly provided by apt) |
| 19:42.02 | PhilRod | you're welcome to try installing only parts of modules, but as annma says, we can't offer support here |
| 19:42.05 | annma | ChrisiD: I use ./configure and that's it |
| 19:42.16 | annma | with debug as I develop |
| 19:43.05 | ChrisiD | ok |
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| 19:46.08 | troy | good day old friends |
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| 19:48.10 | Tm_T | yes, I'm old |
| 19:48.12 | Tm_T | too old |
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| 19:51.41 | hareldvd | Hi all, I upgraded from 3.3.0 to 3.4.1. A new .kde directory was created by the firstlogin wizard but since I do not have taskbar and virtual desktop. Where is the problem? |
| 19:53.16 | annma | hmmm, what about another user? |
| 19:53.30 | annma | or is it that you just have to add the applets? |
| 19:54.32 | hareldvd | annma: I don't think it'a an applet to add. but let me double check. |
| 19:54.58 | PhilRod | hareldvd: do you mean you have a panel (kicker) with no taskbar? |
| 19:55.35 | annma | that's what I understand |
| 19:55.42 | hareldvd | PhilRod: Right. but I just added it. I think I somehow jammed my .kde dir. |
| 19:55.56 | annma | :) |
| 19:56.08 | hareldvd | Still I don't have the virtual desktop what is the name of the applet? |
| 19:56.27 | annma | Desktop Preview & Pager |
| 19:56.51 | hareldvd | Right, Thanks. It is OK now. |
| 19:57.09 | hareldvd | BTW, Look and feel on 3.4.1 is great. |
| 19:58.09 | annma | :) |
| 19:58.16 | baafie | "jammed my .kde dir"? |
| 19:59.24 | PhilRod | why did you upgrade to 3.4.1 and not 3.4.2? |
| 20:00.23 | hareldvd | baffie: I realy don't know. The first time I started KDE 3.4 I was in the middle of the upgrade process. I got some error messages that I ignored knowing I shold finish the upgrade first. This must have jammed something. |
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| 20:26.29 | desowin | have anyone here downloaded kontroller ? (the link on http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=10459&vote=good&tan=19604718 is broken) |
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| 20:28.17 | annma | desowin: it's kde 3.2 |
| 20:28.54 | annma | and the author never workd more on it |
| 20:29.03 | bssteph | there's a new similar project started by someone on the planet |
| 20:29.13 | bssteph | don't think it's ready though, and i don't remember who it was :\ |
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| 20:31.25 | bssteph | there it is. kamefu. not been released yet, but something to keep an eye on |
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| 20:32.27 | anyw | kdelibs/kdeui/kcombobox.cpp:40:22: error: kurldrag.h: No such file or directory |
| 20:32.27 | anyw | C'est normal qu'il n'y ai pas de kurldrag.h dans kdelibs/kdecore ? |
| 20:33.16 | annma | anyw: did you compile kdelibs? |
| 20:33.23 | annma | hmm |
| 20:33.25 | annma | sorry |
| 20:33.34 | annma | did you set --prefix? |
| 20:34.07 | _henry_ | stops |
| 20:34.46 | anyw | wow I speak french on an english speaking channel oO i'm sorry |
| 20:35.55 | anyw | annma: I get this msg during the compilation of kdelibs. |
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| 20:36.00 | PhilRod | anyw: #kde-fr if you prefer french |
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| 20:37.09 | anyw | I don't understand why kurldrag.h is not in kdecore/ |
| 20:38.52 | PhilRod | anyw: how did you obtain the kdelibs source? |
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| 20:39.03 | anyw | hmm... it's on the svn oO |
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| 20:39.14 | PhilRod | did you get trunk/ ? |
| 20:39.18 | PhilRod | or branch? |
| 20:39.24 | anyw | PhilRod: yes |
| 20:39.30 | anyw | I don't understand |
| 20:39.53 | anyw | I have all the files in kdecore but not kurldrag.h... |
| 20:40.07 | anyw | I'm downloading it. |
| 20:40.27 | pinotree | anyw: your kdelibs checkout is old |
| 20:40.52 | pinotree | anyw: that file was moved this afternoon to kdecore/kde3support, as it's obsolete with kde4 |
| 20:41.48 | pinotree | and moreover, all the other files were adapted to compile without it |
| 20:42.29 | anyw | ok |
| 20:42.36 | PhilRod | ~kde4-buzz |
| 20:42.39 | apt | KDE 4 is currently for developers only. See: http://www.canllaith.org/svn-features/kde4.html |
| 20:43.02 | PhilRod | in fact, trunk/kdelibs/ is doubly broken, because they're moving stuff around |
| 20:43.14 | pinotree | but it compiles now... |
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| 20:43.18 | DaBlade | Hello |
| 20:43.21 | pinotree | luckly... |
| 20:43.35 | PhilRod | anyw: unless you're developing on kdelibs, you should use the snapshot (um, kdelibs4_snapshot, or something) |
| 20:43.50 | DaBlade | I'm trying to make a Karamba theme that displays info about amarok, and that lets you control it, but I got a little problem |
| 20:43.50 | PhilRod | the tag name is something like that |
| 20:43.59 | DaBlade | I have no idea how to make the status bar work |
| 20:44.04 | DaBlade | can someone help me out? |
| 20:44.10 | PhilRod | try us |
| 20:44.30 | PhilRod | also, try #superkaramba or perhaps #plasma - I forget which one is right |
| 20:44.44 | DaBlade | ok thanks |
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| 20:45.28 | DaBlade | dead channels |
| 20:46.56 | PhilRod | you can ask here too :-) |
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| 20:54.45 | sredna | Man, I hate konqueror sometimes |
| 20:54.59 | sredna | Why on earth does it suddenly open archieves? |
| 20:55.28 | frb | suddenly? |
| 20:56.01 | frb | it's more that apple won't play a free format, than a lossless |
| 20:56.07 | frb | bah, wrong window |
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| 20:56.54 | friedemann | hmm ... passiert hier wasß |
| 20:56.57 | friedemann | aha |
| 20:57.10 | friedemann | nur, ob mich jemand hören kann...? |
| 20:57.26 | friedemann | dies ist wohl ein IRC-Chat-Programm |
| 20:57.28 | desowin | english please |
| 20:57.33 | pinotree | friedemann: aehm... this is an english channel... |
| 20:57.51 | friedemann | oh..sorry ... have a nice evenig |
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| 21:23.25 | Oleg_ | oh, I haven't compiled kde in a very long time |
| 21:23.54 | Oleg_ | how do I compile arts? ./configure, make, and make install? |
| 21:23.58 | annma | yes |
| 21:24.05 | annma | is that a tarball? |
| 21:24.30 | Oleg_ | yeah |
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| 21:26.39 | annma | Oleg_: is that a new kde that you want separated from your current one? |
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| 21:27.53 | Oleg_ | yeah |
| 21:28.05 | Oleg_ | I am gonna install it in a different directory |
| 21:28.12 | annma | did you set a new KDEDIR? |
| 21:28.16 | Oleg_ | yeah |
| 21:28.20 | annma | ok |
| 21:28.31 | annma | otherwise you would need ./configure --prefix= |
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| 21:30.08 | bonzai10 | hello |
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| 21:31.11 | annma | hi |
| 21:31.36 | bonzai10 | ok then someone lives here :P |
| 21:32.10 | bonzai10 | well i have problem with konqueror |
| 21:32.24 | frb | whwnever I start kate, it complains that an smb:// dir doesn't exist |
| 21:32.40 | bonzai10 | it tries to save swf files instead display them in browser |
| 21:32.42 | frb | there is no mention of smb in ~/.kde/share/apps/kate |
| 21:32.54 | frb | and none of my MRU items are in that dir |
| 21:33.05 | annma | bonzai10: it's just a file association that is bad |
| 21:33.23 | benJIman | frb: how about |
| 21:33.30 | benJIman | ~/.kde/share/config/katerc? |
| 21:33.33 | bonzai10 | well i tried to set but it didn't work |
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| 21:33.56 | PhilRod | bonzai10: does konq detect the flash plugin correctly? |
| 21:34.04 | frb | benJIman: yeah, it is in dir history |
| 21:34.05 | bonzai10 | yes |
| 21:34.20 | frb | and location |
| 21:34.55 | bonzai10 | in about:plugins it detects |
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| 21:35.44 | poningru | hi I saw a video couple of weeks ago somewhere that showed a guy messing around in kde that basically showed luminocity type things |
| 21:35.51 | poningru | does anyone know where I can see the video |
| 21:36.01 | poningru | unfortunately I didnt bookmark the link |
| 21:36.03 | benJIman | poningru: the jelly windows and like? |
| 21:36.09 | poningru | yeah I think thats it |
| 21:36.19 | benJIman | poningru: google for "xgl_wanking" noone else is silly enough to name a video like that |
| 21:36.19 | Blissex | poningru: probably there is an Akademy video repository somewhere |
| 21:36.32 | poningru | ooh thats it |
| 21:36.33 | poningru | thanks |
| 21:37.11 | bonzai10 | how to set swf file assosiation to display it in browser not in program?? |
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| 21:38.10 | poningru | god I cant believe they put it up behind rapid share |
| 21:38.15 | anisX | greetings all |
| 21:38.32 | poningru | ok thanks guys |
| 21:38.41 | poningru | especially benJIman |
| 21:38.45 | anisX | i can burn a movie using k3b |
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| 21:38.49 | anisX | what is my problem ? |
| 21:39.12 | benJIman | anisX: I don't know, what is your problem? |
| 21:39.13 | anisX | KDE: 3.4.2-1.2.fc3.kde : this my current version of KDE |
| 21:39.23 | anisX | *cant burn |
| 21:39.24 | anisX | sorry |
| 21:39.39 | anisX | ah |
| 21:39.42 | anisX | problem solved :) |
| 21:40.45 | bonzai10 | nobody can tell me how to set swf assosiation o run in browser?? |
| 21:41.03 | frb | bonzai10: right click, say open with, and choose a browser? |
| 21:41.22 | bonzai10 | but if its a banner or ad?? |
| 21:41.51 | annma | bonzai10: ok, open KControl please |
| 21:42.05 | annma | KDE components -> File Associations |
| 21:42.22 | annma | find filename pattern: enter here swf |
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| 21:42.35 | annma | then expand what it shown below |
| 21:42.42 | annma | bonzai10: you are here? |
| 21:42.55 | StevenR | hmmm...konqueror keeeps freezing up...not crashing...just stopping dead for 20secs or so then continuing with whatver it was doing....How do I stop this really really annoying behaviour? |
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| 21:43.05 | bonzai10 | Program Hierarhy and theres Totem |
| 21:43.05 | StevenR | not konqueror....konsole I mean |
| 21:43.11 | annma | bonzai10: what file association do you see? |
| 21:43.17 | bonzai10 | swf |
| 21:43.19 | annma | Totem! |
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| 21:43.24 | annma | what the hell |
| 21:43.26 | annma | ok |
| 21:43.31 | bonzai10 | i know but its default |
| 21:43.46 | bonzai10 | i didn't change it |
| 21:43.46 | annma | bonzai10: so what you want is that flash are seen in konqueror, is that it? |
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| 21:43.54 | bonzai10 | yeap |
| 21:44.06 | annma | in General tab |
| 21:44.14 | annma | Application Order |
| 21:44.18 | annma | what is there? |
| 21:44.29 | bonzai10 | totem |
| 21:44.36 | annma | General tab |
| 21:44.41 | bonzai10 | yes |
| 21:44.48 | annma | hihlight and remove |
| 21:44.48 | SuseUX | anyway of superkaramba not showing shadows when kompmgr is enabled? |
| 21:45.08 | annma | bonzai10: is that empty now? |
| 21:45.14 | bonzai10 | ok i did it last time and didn't work |
| 21:45.27 | bonzai10 | its empty |
| 21:45.36 | annma | now in Embedding tab |
| 21:45.46 | bonzai10 | ok |
| 21:45.48 | annma | what lines are checked? |
| 21:45.53 | annma | there are 4 lines |
| 21:45.59 | bonzai10 | a1st |
| 21:46.01 | annma | which ones are checked? |
| 21:46.07 | annma | 1st and that's all? |
| 21:46.12 | bonzai10 | yes |
| 21:46.28 | annma | remove totem from service preference order |
| 21:46.48 | bonzai10 | its removed |
| 21:46.52 | annma | click Appply |
| 21:46.56 | bonzai10 | it was before |
| 21:47.01 | annma | it was waht? |
| 21:47.30 | annma | ok now you should be ok |
| 21:47.33 | bonzai10 | i hadn't this in selection |
| 21:47.38 | annma | are ou in kde by the way? |
| 21:47.40 | bonzai10 | ok i'll try |
| 21:47.52 | annma | you're not in gnome? |
| 21:48.11 | bonzai10 | im in KDE but i use Polish language :P |
| 21:48.17 | annma | ok |
| 21:48.20 | annma | ;) |
| 21:48.24 | bonzai10 | and translation is difrent |
| 21:48.31 | annma | yes, I understand |
| 21:48.37 | annma | but you did well |
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| 21:50.44 | bonzai10 | it's weird... |
| 21:50.56 | annma | what is weird? |
| 21:51.08 | bonzai10 | i did everything you said |
| 21:51.14 | annma | yes |
| 21:51.17 | bonzai10 | as root and as a user |
| 21:51.22 | annma | as root! no! |
| 21:51.29 | annma | root is bad |
| 21:51.31 | bonzai10 | and it still opens totem |
| 21:51.35 | annma | no |
| 21:51.46 | bonzai10 | but as a usual user too |
| 21:52.09 | annma | give me an url for example |
| 21:52.18 | bonzai10 | www.flashplayer.com |
| 21:52.37 | annma | when you click on that, what happens exactly in tie order? |
| 21:52.41 | annma | time order |
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| 21:53.17 | bonzai10 | ok on this page when i try to open a flash in new window, window appears but black |
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| 21:53.29 | bonzai10 | and it says Page is loaded |
| 21:53.31 | annma | first thing first |
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| 21:53.41 | annma | click on this url from your IRC client |
| 21:53.45 | annma | what happens? |
| 21:53.53 | annma | does konqueror open? |
| 21:53.56 | bonzai10 | it's loading.. |
| 21:54.01 | bonzai10 | and its ok |
| 21:54.02 | annma | and only konqueror? |
| 21:54.13 | bonzai10 | yes |
| 21:54.21 | bonzai10 | on FF it works fine |
| 21:54.36 | annma | does konqueror open or firefox? |
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| 21:54.55 | annma | is konqueror your default browser? |
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| 21:55.03 | bonzai10 | firefox opens usualy, konqueror tries to open by totem |
| 21:55.21 | bonzai10 | yes konqueror is my default browser |
| 21:55.24 | annma | bonzai10: what is your default browser for kde? |
| 21:55.31 | annma | so why does FF open? |
| 21:55.49 | annma | type the url in konqueror |
| 21:55.56 | bonzai10 | no no, i rn Firefox separatly |
| 21:55.57 | annma | does it load properly? |
| 21:56.07 | annma | please don't mix it all |
| 21:56.11 | annma | FF is not kde |
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| 21:56.31 | annma | type the url in konqueror |
| 21:56.39 | annma | does the page load properly? |
| 21:56.53 | bonzai10 | i know, i dont have problem with FF, i have problem with konqueror |
| 21:57.06 | bonzai10 | yes... |
| 21:57.22 | bonzai10 | page loads properly |
| 21:57.24 | annma | then after from konqueror |
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| 21:57.33 | annma | try to run a flash |
| 21:57.38 | annma | from this page |
| 21:57.40 | Maneit | What's this klik thingy I hear so much about? :p |
| 21:57.49 | bonzai10 | and now is problem |
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| 21:58.01 | annma | Maneit: read the Dot |
| 21:58.05 | PhilRod | Maneit: see dot.kde.org |
| 21:58.10 | annma | bonzai10: what problem? |
| 21:58.23 | bonzai10 | it doesn't run flash |
| 21:58.34 | annma | but does totem open? |
| 21:59.27 | bonzai10 | no... |
| 21:59.28 | Maneit | wow, neat stuff |
| 21:59.43 | annma | bonzai10: so at least you don't have tis totem anymore |
| 21:59.44 | bonzai10 | but when i run www.ling.pl its opening |
| 21:59.59 | annma | now, does it says that the shockwave plugin is missing? |
| 21:59.59 | PhilRod | g'night |
| 22:00.04 | annma | bye PhilRod |
| 22:00.06 | bonzai10 | no |
| 22:00.17 | annma | you run how? |
| 22:00.34 | annma | <bonzai10> but when I run www.ling.pl its opening <- how do you run it? |
| 22:00.35 | bonzai10 | i go to www.ling.pl |
| 22:00.40 | annma | you go how? |
| 22:00.46 | annma | with what? |
| 22:00.55 | bonzai10 | type it in adres box |
| 22:01.07 | annma | address box of what? |
| 22:01.13 | bonzai10 | konqueror |
| 22:01.58 | annma | totem opens immediatly? |
| 22:02.15 | bonzai10 | not immediatly... when it loads ad |
| 22:02.44 | annma | it does not ask you wether to save or open ith totem? |
| 22:02.52 | bonzai10 | no |
| 22:03.01 | annma | you see in that page the flash is made for being NOT in the page |
| 22:03.09 | annma | reopen kcontrol like before |
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| 22:03.33 | bonzai10 | ok |
| 22:03.56 | annma | in Embedding, check the 4th line |
| 22:04.35 | annma | Ask wether to save to disk instead |
| 22:04.41 | annma | click Apply |
| 22:05.07 | bonzai10 | ok |
| 22:06.03 | bonzai10 | now it asks me to save on disk |
| 22:06.16 | annma | ok |
| 22:06.26 | annma | it's ok because in that case it's done that way |
| 22:06.40 | annma | in the url ling.pl |
| 22:08.19 | annma | try in ff it's the same |
| 22:09.01 | bonzai10 | no... its normaly.. it loads ad and display it in same window |
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| 22:10.22 | annma | for that website? |
| 22:11.01 | bonzai10 | ling.pl... im trying to say that Firefox runs swf with no problems |
| 22:11.09 | AuReUs_ReCtoR | heh, ppl :) i search some app. like daemon on windows... too mount iso file like virtual device ... have kde somethinge like this? |
| 22:11.31 | bonzai10 | yes kde has |
| 22:11.37 | Maneit | yes, kinda. I think there is a "mount ISO" servicemenu on kde-apps.org |
| 22:11.42 | bonzai10 | www.kde-look.org |
| 22:11.49 | bonzai10 | and kde improvements |
| 22:11.54 | Maneit | hmm. perhaps kde-look then :) |
| 22:12.11 | AuReUs_ReCtoR | hm, sec. :o) |
| 22:12.38 | annma | bonzai10: maybe this page flash is not compatible with konqueror |
| 22:12.52 | annma | in fact I don'thave the shockwave plugin |
| 22:12.57 | annma | I just hate flash |
| 22:14.08 | Maneit | which page are you having problems with? |
| 22:14.08 | bonzai10 | all with swf |
| 22:14.08 | annma | bonzai10: all? |
| 22:14.08 | bonzai10 | on koyes |
| 22:14.10 | bonzai10 | yes |
| 22:14.20 | bonzai10 | one time it doesn't display |
| 22:14.28 | bonzai10 | one time it opens totem |
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| 22:16.32 | bonzai10 | i know everyone is tired of it and well i don't care now, don't bother, i will use FF to open swf |
| 22:16.53 | annma | yes or maybe ask your distro |
| 22:17.12 | bonzai10 | well i accualy asked =] |
| 22:17.26 | SuseUX | bonzai10, you cannot get swf in konqueror? |
| 22:17.41 | bonzai10 | no i cant but i have installed |
| 22:17.43 | annma | bonzai10: what distro? |
| 22:17.58 | SuseUX | bonzai10, have you firefox? |
| 22:18.00 | bonzai10 | Ubuntu with KDE (not kubuntu) |
| 22:18.21 | bonzai10 | Firefox 1.0.6 |
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| 22:18.31 | SuseUX | swf works ok there? |
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| 22:19.10 | bonzai10 | in konqueror?? |
| 22:19.17 | SuseUX | firefox |
| 22:19.28 | bonzai10 | im talking about konqueror |
| 22:19.34 | annma | if it's ubuntu, no matter, they don't favor KDE |
| 22:19.44 | SuseUX | yes but does swf work in firefox? |
| 22:19.52 | annma | he says it does |
| 22:19.56 | bonzai10 | yes swf works in FF |
| 22:20.44 | annma | but his settings were realy weird, SuseUX |
| 22:20.45 | SuseUX | bonzai10, just delete the 2 swf plugins in .mozilla and then open FF and reinstall the plugin |
| 22:21.26 | SuseUX | konqueror uses mozila plugins since even firefox stores them in mozila |
| 22:21.41 | SuseUX | unless your distro changed that around |
| 22:22.27 | sredna | bonzai10: Ling.pl is misconfigured, they must fail to send the correct header with some of the swf files (some of them does work in konqueror) |
| 22:22.48 | bonzai10 | i have installed flash it mannualy in mozilla-firefox dir |
| 22:23.12 | SuseUX | is konqueror plugin options pointing to it? |
| 22:23.21 | bonzai10 | yes |
| 22:24.06 | SuseUX | the path is in the options? |
| 22:24.28 | annma | Maneit: I just trie Klik!!!!!!! |
| 22:24.34 | annma | Maneit: amazing thing |
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| 22:24.46 | bonzai10 | yes |
| 22:24.57 | Maneit | annma: I agree :) |
| 22:25.05 | annma | Maneit: you tried it? |
| 22:25.09 | Maneit | yupp |
| 22:25.16 | annma | I tried on mandriva with self compiled kde |
| 22:25.27 | Maneit | Not with KDE-apps though.. it wanted to install a whole lot of dependencies for it, since I've got KDE from source I guess |
| 22:25.32 | SuseUX | bonzai10, and you clicked "scan for new plugins"? |
| 22:25.43 | annma | Maneit: me too I have kde from sources |
| 22:25.49 | bonzai10 | yes.. its displaing in about:plugins |
| 22:26.04 | Maneit | annma: distro? :) |
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| 22:26.13 | annma | on mandriva cooker |
| 22:26.14 | Maneit | mandriva, sorry |
| 22:26.14 | Maneit | hehe |
| 22:26.21 | annma | kde 3.5 svn |
| 22:26.33 | Maneit | So if you try to run a KDE-app, it wants to download kdelibs etc, right? |
| 22:26.48 | bonzai10 | when KDE 3.5 final will be relased?? |
| 22:26.57 | SuseUX | weird |
| 22:27.00 | thiago | a month at least |
| 22:27.12 | SuseUX | kde 3.5 svn rocks |
| 22:27.16 | annma | Maneit: not at all |
| 22:27.22 | thiago | bonzai10: the first beta will be out within a week |
| 22:27.24 | bonzai10 | what's svn?? |
| 22:27.25 | Maneit | annma: hmm.. weird |
| 22:27.34 | annma | Maneit: I tried klik://ktouch and it got 15 Mb |
| 22:27.43 | annma | the app misses a few menus |
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| 22:27.52 | annma | but mandriva is not supported per see |
| 22:27.53 | thiago | I still say they shouldn't use URLs for that |
| 22:28.00 | Sgep | Hi all |
| 22:28.00 | thiago | *especially* not the hostname part of the URL |
| 22:28.02 | Maneit | 15,8MB here |
| 22:28.08 | Sgep | How do I get Java working in konq? |
| 22:28.13 | Maneit | But that includes alsalib, aspell, cupsys, qt-x11-free etc |
| 22:28.20 | bonzai10 | wht does svn mean?? |
| 22:28.27 | Maneit | So I guess it makes a "virtual" enviroment for it or something |
| 22:28.28 | thiago | bonzai10: Subversion |
| 22:28.36 | bonzai10 | um ok thx |
| 22:28.48 | annma | bonzai10: svn is a way for developers to work on several people on the same files |
| 22:29.22 | annma | without messing it, on e makes changes, the other get the changes and so on |
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| 22:30.45 | bonzai10 | i wonder how long we will have to wait for KDE4... i suppose very long =] |
| 22:30.55 | annma | very very long, yes |
| 22:30.59 | annma | at least 1 year |
| 22:31.02 | Maneit | well over a yaer i'd guess |
| 22:31.42 | bonzai10 | and i wonder if they aply some ideas from kde-look |
| 22:31.51 | thiago | bonzai10: which ones? |
| 22:32.05 | bonzai10 | there's one which looks like vista |
| 22:32.34 | annma | oh man, I hope we won't look like vista |
| 22:32.45 | annma | I refuse for my part to look at it |
| 22:32.55 | NeoFax | Anyone know how to change the size of icons in systray seperate from the rest of kicker? |
| 22:33.05 | bonzai10 | http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=28476 |
| 22:33.48 | SuseUX | annma, thats why in 3.5 svn they have window boarder transparnecy :-) |
| 22:34.09 | Maneit | There are ideas at kde-artists that looks way better than vista ;) |
| 22:34.27 | bonzai10 | relly... i'll check it out =] |
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| 22:34.59 | Maneit | I really like the idea of a task-based ALI :> |
| 22:35.08 | SuseUX | just the default look of kde that needs changing really |
| 22:35.42 | SuseUX | like my desktop is would be nice |
| 22:35.51 | bonzai10 | who does use smooth-blend window decoration?? |
| 22:35.58 | Maneit | <- |
| 22:36.12 | SuseUX | yep |
| 22:36.12 | NeoFax | Anyone? |
| 22:36.37 | bonzai10 | in KDE 3.5 its installed by default |
| 22:36.48 | SuseUX | NeoFax, make the icons small in gimp |
| 22:37.29 | NeoFax | SuseUX: Would systray then double them up like windows? By that I mean 2x2 |
| 22:37.30 | AuReUs_ReCtoR | huh, i start to install: - Mount-ISO v0.9 - |
| 22:37.35 | AuReUs_ReCtoR | and have 7 actins |
| 22:37.39 | AuReUs_ReCtoR | which to use? |
| 22:37.39 | AuReUs_ReCtoR | :o) |
| 22:38.03 | SuseUX | NeoFax, last time I tried I just made the png's smaller |
| 22:38.24 | NeoFax | Thanks, I'll try that! |
| 22:38.53 | bonzai10 | i have another question... well i have xchat and it uses gtk libs but i had xchat on mandrake and it used Qt. Can i change lib usage to Qt for all programs??? |
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| 22:39.08 | baafie | bonzai10: no. |
| 22:39.13 | bonzai10 | :( |
| 22:39.21 | bonzai10 | too bad |
| 22:39.23 | baafie | bonzai10: but you can run a program that changes the gtk theme to something that looks better in gtk |
| 22:39.28 | baafie | better in kde, I mean |
| 22:39.28 | StevenR | bonzai10: xchat does not use qt |
| 22:39.34 | SuseUX | bonzai10, it was proberly a gtk theme that fitted with the qt mandrake |
| 22:40.15 | bonzai10 | um.. ok i get it |
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| 22:42.24 | SuseUX | mandrake his it's own agender whe it comes with the look of kde and gnome |
| 22:42.34 | SuseUX | mandriva* |
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| 22:46.07 | AuReUs_ReCtoR | huh |
| 22:46.08 | AuReUs_ReCtoR | well |
| 22:46.09 | AuReUs_ReCtoR | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:46.54 | Oleg_ | so, qt4 will be faster? |
| 22:47.05 | baafie | apparently |
| 22:47.10 | Oleg_ | and kde 4 will be easier to code? |
| 22:47.39 | bonzai10 | can you imagine KDA in 10 years?? |
| 22:47.44 | Maneit | god damnit! Firealarm :p |
| 22:48.10 | Maneit | well, guess I've gotta get out then. hehe |
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| 22:49.48 | bonzai10 | who has finished SuperTux?? |
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| 22:54.30 | afterLife | hi .. I installed KDE and I saw 2 editors which looks the same to me .. what is the difference between kate & kwrite ? which one is more 'powerful' ? |
| 22:55.41 | anusaya | anyone know why kaudiocreator (3.5_alpha1) can no longer generate playlists? It appears to now be a worthless app. |
| 22:55.55 | frb | I prefer kate |
| 22:56.01 | anisX | afterLife: im not in KDE or Linux thought..but i prefer KATE editor |
| 22:56.08 | bonzai10 | i prefer kedit :P |
| 22:56.09 | anisX | *im not good |
| 22:56.38 | baafie | well, kate has a pretty name.. ;) |
| 22:56.50 | bonzai10 | like girl xD |
| 22:56.50 | frb | kate opens all docs in the same window unless otherwise said |
| 22:57.01 | frb | kwrite opens them all in new windows |
| 22:57.23 | frb | kate has a nifty sidebar, and more options |
| 22:57.46 | frb | kate has a plugin for tabbed editing, as well as splitscreen |
| 22:58.03 | afterLife | oh .. nice .. :D I gotta read the help |
| 22:58.48 | anisX | frb: KATE can show me where should i put the ( if i use it when code the program :p |
| 22:59.14 | anisX | so i never leave a ( "bracket" |
| 22:59.44 | baafie | parenthesis! *hides* |
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| 23:01.36 | frb | yeah, I use kate mostly for coding too |
| 23:01.45 | frb | that's why split views are so nice |
| 23:02.03 | frb | header/api on top, my code on the bottom |
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| 23:11.17 | kicken | Darn, fresh install of kdebase/kdelibs didn't fix my sftp problem :( |
| 23:13.11 | SlackUX | so anyone that dont like the mockup for kde4 on kde-look? |
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| 23:20.26 | BROKEN_LADDER | konquerer keeps doing this thing where i drag files to a directory, and it pops up a list about what i want to do, instead of just moving them. how can i disable this unless i use the right mouse button to move them? |
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| 23:22.18 | sredna | BROKEN_LADDER: To copy, hold down the control key whilc dropping |
| 23:23.11 | sredna | BROKEN_LADDER: To move, hold down the Shift key while dropping |
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| 23:25.35 | mikhail | hello |
| 23:25.47 | BROKEN_LADDER | i don't want to have to hold the shift key |
| 23:26.00 | BROKEN_LADDER | i want it to behave normall and just move the files like any other file manager would do, from mac to windows to gnome |
| 23:26.05 | BROKEN_LADDER | er..nautilus |
| 23:26.23 | BROKEN_LADDER | it should only pop up that window if i use the right mouse button |
| 23:26.29 | BROKEN_LADDER | there's no way to fix this? |
| 23:26.37 | sredna | Send a patch |
| 23:26.46 | sredna | Report a bug |
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| 23:27.12 | hydrogen | err |
| 23:27.18 | hydrogen | I kind of like it happening on left mouse |
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| 23:37.30 | BROKEN_LADDER | the left mouse button is the most commonly used. |
| 23:37.41 | BROKEN_LADDER | by far, most people move things when the drag, not copy. |
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| 23:38.32 | hydrogen | and having the option to copy... or echo.. is very useful |
| 23:39.22 | StevenR | hmmm...konsole keeeps freezing up...not crashing...just stopping dead for 20secs or so then continuing with whatever it was doing....How do I stop this really really annoying behaviour? |
| 23:40.59 | Supermule | If anybody is interested in testing a kde filesharing app, please check out http://kommute.sf.net |
| 23:45.37 | Tm_T | ok, one more warez-ass program :/ |
| 23:45.45 | Tm_T | some people like, I don't |
| 23:46.23 | Tm_T | and best of all, britney spears =) |
| 23:46.41 | Tm_T | ok, I'm too tired to say anything constructive, ignore me |
| 23:46.43 | anisX | Tm_T: how about jennifer lopez ? |
| 23:46.44 | anisX | :p |
| 23:46.59 | Tm_T | hate it too |
| 23:47.08 | Supermule | Tm_T: Try it out... I need help with testing... |
| 23:47.20 | Tm_T | Supermule: sorry, can't |
| 23:47.24 | Tm_T | :/ |
| 23:47.30 | Supermule | Tm_T: Ok, fair enough. |
| 23:47.51 | Supermule | Tm_T: And the Britney thing was mostly because I was sure to get some search results then... |
| 23:47.57 | Tm_T | Supermule: next week would be probably better :) |
| 23:48.11 | Supermule | Tm_T: That would be cool... |
| 23:48.38 | Tm_T | testing something new is always fun |
| 23:48.54 | Supermule | Tm_T: Yep |
| 23:49.40 | anisX | Tm_T: wanna test my messy irc client ? |
| 23:50.06 | anisX | ;p |
| 23:50.13 | Supermule | Tm_T: The good thing about Kommute is that it uses an anonymous filesharing protocol, thus totally protecting your privacy. |
| 23:50.40 | Tm_T | Supermule: you mean, let you do crime totally anonymously? |
| 23:50.49 | Supermule | Nobody can relate shared files, uploads, downloads and searches to ip addresses. |
| 23:51.07 | Tm_T | as Isaid |
| 23:51.24 | Supermule | Tm_T: No, I mean you can use p2p technology safely without being spyed upon by the RIAA or the police. |
| 23:51.50 | Tm_T | ... |
| 23:52.08 | Tm_T | can't see the difference, but fair enough =) |
| 23:52.32 | Tm_T | I don't use any filesharing thingie, but torrents to get my linux isos and seed em |
| 23:52.35 | Supermule | Tm_T: He he... Well, you can use for what you wan't. |
| 23:52.46 | Tm_T | yu |
| 23:52.54 | Supermule | You can also use a gun and a car to commit crimes if you want. |
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| 23:53.31 | Tm_T | Supermule: gun, thank you |
| 23:53.34 | Supermule | And if antbody wants to share copyrighted britney stuff, I guess there's nothing to stop them... |
| 23:53.36 | Tm_T | done that |
| 23:53.44 | Tm_T | Supermule: true |
| 23:54.02 | Supermule | Not that in anyway agree with doing that at all.... |
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| 23:54.22 | Supermule | Thats so much not why I'm doing this program. |
| 23:54.36 | Tm_T | good |
| 23:54.41 | Supermule | Tm_T: Yep |
| 23:54.48 | Tm_T | I think we'll get along then :) |
| 23:55.20 | Supermule | Tm_T: My intentions are based on a much higher philosophical and ethical level. |
| 23:55.44 | Tm_T | pleasde, share it with us |
| 23:55.54 | Tm_T | s/pleasde/please |
| 23:56.16 | Supermule | Uhh... you're getting me in trouble now :-) |
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| 23:57.01 | Supermule | So what if I'm a Britney fan and I do this app just to download her latest single. Is that wrong? |
| 23:57.25 | Oleg_ | Ok, I compiled kdelibs, but before that I forgot to edit ld.so.conf and put the dir where newly compiled arts libs were |
| 23:57.26 | Tm_T | no, can't say so, but I don't appreciate it |
| 23:57.41 | Oleg_ | so I guess kdelibs compiled against the old arts libs |
| 23:57.42 | Oleg_ | ? |
| 23:57.56 | doctorzoidberg | i think there is a bug in kdelibs |
| 23:57.56 | Supermule | Tm_T: Fair enough. We all have our quirks and small things. |
| 23:58.18 | Oleg_ | oh my God, what if I screwed up?! |
| 23:58.19 | Tm_T | yup |
| 23:58.32 | Oleg_ | I gotta re-compile kdelibs now? |
| 23:59.13 | Oleg_ | anybody? |
| 23:59.29 | Supermule | Tm_T: But seriously, I think you are right. I should change the screenshot to show non copyrighted material. Would send a better signal. Will do tomorrow. |
| 23:59.34 | Oleg_ | how do I check what arts libs my kdelibs use? |
