| 00:00.03 | Oleg_ | kcalc also doesn't work |
| 00:00.04 | Alethes | kcalc |
| 00:00.20 | Oleg_ | thanks. that means I don't have it |
| 00:00.52 | lippel | Oleg_: kdeutils |
| 00:02.30 | Oleg_ | I thought. I installed them. Running make install in the kdeutils dir, just in case |
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| 00:02.56 | NSK | hi |
| 00:03.12 | NSK | where does KMail 1.8 stores the emails? |
| 00:03.21 | NSK | s/stores/store |
| 00:03.28 | Oleg_ | hmm... |
| 00:03.38 | Oleg_ | kcalc doesn't get installed |
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| 00:04.05 | NSK | the ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail only has settings, not emails. where are the mails? |
| 00:04.21 | NSK | suse9.3 wityh kde 3.4 |
| 00:04.22 | Oleg_ | kfloppy was installed |
| 00:04.30 | Oleg_ | ark was installed too |
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| 00:06.07 | thiago | NSK: in ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail |
| 00:06.22 | NSK | ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail only has settings, not emails |
| 00:06.24 | thiago | for any accounts created with KMail 1.8 and on |
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| 00:06.31 | Oleg_ | I wonder why kcalc wasn't compiled |
| 00:06.38 | NSK | I see my accounts there, but no emails |
| 00:06.39 | thiago | if you have older accounts, it's in ~/Mail |
| 00:06.47 | thiago | Oleg_: you need libgmp |
| 00:07.11 | Oleg_ | oh, how do I check if I have libgmp? |
| 00:07.12 | NSK | I dont have any ~/Mail directory |
| 00:07.28 | thiago | NSK: then the emails are in ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail/ |
| 00:08.12 | Oleg_ | locate libgmp doesn't find it |
| 00:08.18 | Oleg_ | so I guess I don't have it |
| 00:08.54 | NSK | thiago: there are'n't any mails there, I checked hidden files too, and I also checked the size of the directories, there aren't data there |
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| 00:09.33 | thiago | NSK: POP3 or IMAP? |
| 00:09.36 | NSK | POP3 |
| 00:09.56 | thiago | check ~/.kde/share/config/kmailrc for folders= |
| 00:10.05 | NSK | thanks let me check |
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| 00:12.48 | apprentice | hello AaronCampbell |
| 00:14.12 | NSK | oh I found where my mail is |
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| 00:19.55 | Oliver_Beograd | AuReUs_ReCtoR |
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| 00:23.20 | apprentice | can i get 3.5 beta for suse 10.0 |
| 00:27.32 | apprentice | hello is anyone around? |
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| 00:33.03 | sunru | hi |
| 00:33.53 | sunru | is it possible to use kprint to merge a printjob with a postscript file before sending to print? |
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| 00:53.40 | chimaera | hi. |
| 00:54.25 | chimaera | how does media:/ determine the type of device? here everything is shown as a harddisk.. |
| 00:54.33 | annma | oh? |
| 00:54.47 | annma | rempvable medias are shown as USB sticks here |
| 00:54.54 | annma | and floppy as floppy |
| 00:55.14 | annma | CDRom as a CD |
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| 00:57.17 | chimaera | here a usb is shown as hd, cd as hd, floppy not present.. |
| 00:57.57 | chimaera | err, i have an idea.. maybe it's because the fstab entry.. |
| 00:58.34 | annma | probably |
| 01:02.12 | chimaera | no. w/o those entries, media isn't displaying those devices at all... |
| 01:02.37 | sunru | is it possible to use kprint to merge a printjob with a postscript file before sending to print? |
| 01:02.39 | sunru | :) |
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| 01:11.16 | Alethes | I'm an idiot when it comes to windows administration. Can somebody tell me if it's possible for me to create a simple script that I can access remotely through the LAN just to do a reboot? |
| 01:12.16 | Sho_ | Alethes: uh ... not the right chan :) |
| 01:12.23 | Alethes | yeah yeah :P |
| 01:12.25 | Alethes | I'm already here |
| 01:12.29 | Sho_ | :) |
| 01:12.37 | Sho_ | honestly though, no idea |
| 01:12.47 | Sho_ | I do know a CLI command for reboot, but since Windows doesn't have ssh ... |
| 01:12.52 | Aji-Dahaka | Alethes: it should be |
| 01:13.12 | Aji-Dahaka | Alethes: you could use ssh and just issue the reboot command, I would think? |
| 01:13.17 | Sho_ | Alethes: %windir%\System32\shutdown.exe -r -t 01 for reboot ... perhaps it helps |
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| 01:13.25 | Alethes | cool thanks |
| 01:13.27 | Sho_ | Aji-Dahaka: He's talking about Windows |
| 01:13.31 | Aji-Dahaka | Sho_: I know |
| 01:13.49 | Sho_ | Aji-Dahaka: Windows and ssh? Well ... don't know if cygwin can do that |
| 01:13.55 | Aji-Dahaka | it can |
| 01:14.07 | Aji-Dahaka | runs as a windows service |
| 01:14.43 | Alethes | hmm |
| 01:14.50 | Alethes | no shutdown.exe on the win2000 box |
| 01:15.09 | Aji-Dahaka | should be there |
| 01:16.00 | Aji-Dahaka | if fou install cygwin, you'll likely even get the reboot command :) |
| 01:16.41 | Alethes | no shutdown.exe at all |
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| 01:17.20 | Aji-Dahaka | that's funny |
| 01:17.29 | apprentice | anyone use apollon? |
| 01:17.35 | Aji-Dahaka | (funny strange not funny humorous) |
| 01:17.40 | Aji-Dahaka | apprentice: occasionally |
| 01:17.43 | apprentice | can you help me |
| 01:18.08 | Aji-Dahaka | apprentice: unsure |
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| 01:18.36 | apprentice | ok. it wont conenct to the networks only to one of em |
| 01:19.05 | Aji-Dahaka | does giftd work with them? |
| 01:19.20 | apprentice | havent tried how do i do that |
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| 01:19.59 | Alethes | Shutdown.exe is available in the Microsoft Windows 2000 Resource Kit. It is a command-line tool that you can use to shut down or restart a local or remote computer that is running Windows 2000 or Windows NT 4.0. If you want to schedule a computer to shut down and restart at a specific time, use Shutdown.exe in combination with the at command or Task Scheduler. |
| 01:20.03 | Alethes | that's why I don't have it :) |
| 01:20.06 | apprentice | only connects to fasttrack |
| 01:20.12 | Aji-Dahaka | apprentice: giftd -v or some such (man giftd) |
| 01:20.19 | apprentice | ?? |
| 01:20.45 | Aji-Dahaka | Alethes: time to install the useful tools pack |
| 01:20.52 | Alethes | hehe |
| 01:20.59 | Alethes | man, I am shocked at how horrid windows is |
| 01:21.13 | Alethes | windows 2000 is supposed to be pretty stable too, but I've had to reboot way too much |
| 01:21.16 | Aji-Dahaka | huh...so it has a separate resource kit...so by their own admission win2k ships without resources... |
| 01:21.34 | Aji-Dahaka | we almost never reboot our win2k servers |
| 01:21.46 | apprentice | [21:21:34] Gnutella: No hosts to try. Looking in gwebcaches... |
| 01:21.46 | apprentice | [21:21:34] Gnutella: Retrying to connect to nodes... |
| 01:22.11 | Aji-Dahaka | apprentice: there we have it, not an apollon problem |
| 01:22.26 | apprentice | so u have no idea what i can do? |
| 01:22.54 | Aji-Dahaka | some kind of setting in the gift setup... |
| 01:23.03 | apprentice | ok |
| 01:23.15 | Aji-Dahaka | maybe you need a new list of webcaches |
| 01:23.35 | apprentice | how would i get htat |
| 01:23.44 | Aji-Dahaka | umm...google maybe |
| 01:24.11 | Aji-Dahaka | apprentice: jas |
| 01:24.17 | apprentice | ?? |
| 01:26.07 | Aji-Dahaka | those might work |
| 01:26.17 | apprentice | ok. wahgt do i do with them |
| 01:26.20 | apprentice | how do i put them in |
| 01:26.21 | apprentice | and waht not |
| 01:27.29 | Aji-Dahaka | you put that in the gwebcaches file |
| 01:28.14 | Roey | Aji-Dahaka: that looked like chewbacca for a second. |
| 01:28.15 | Roey | gwebcaches. |
| 01:28.28 | Aji-Dahaka | :) |
| 01:28.30 | apprentice | where is that file? |
| 01:28.35 | Roey | =) |
| 01:28.38 | Aji-Dahaka | apprentice: .giFT somewhere |
| 01:28.47 | apprentice | ok. gonna search |
| 01:29.40 | apprentice | so r those webcaches in general for just a specific one |
| 01:30.36 | Aji-Dahaka | gnutella has some system where it has webcaches and can maintain them if you first have a list of them...I don't remember how they do it |
| 01:30.51 | Alethes | doesn't look like the resource kit is a free download |
| 01:30.54 | Alethes | stupid windows |
| 01:30.56 | apprentice | ok |
| 01:31.08 | apprentice | maybe u also have the ares nodes plz |
| 01:31.16 | Aji-Dahaka | Alethes: I thought it was |
| 01:31.22 | Aji-Dahaka | ares nodes? |
| 01:31.29 | apprentice | yes |
| 01:31.36 | apprentice | the ips and stuff for ares |
| 01:31.37 | Alethes | http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/techinfo/reskit/rktour/server/S_tools.asp |
| 01:32.03 | Alethes | still looking |
| 01:32.30 | Aji-Dahaka | what is ares? |
| 01:35.02 | apprentice | like gnuetall |
| 01:35.06 | apprentice | gnutella |
| 01:35.29 | Aji-Dahaka | huh...never tried it |
| 01:35.52 | apprentice | its the best of all |
| 01:36.31 | Aji-Dahaka | must be, as I've heard of it and all... |
| 01:36.42 | apprentice | yeah |
| 01:36.49 | apprentice | can u try to get the plugin and see if it works for u |
| 01:37.09 | Aji-Dahaka | umm...maybe later (busy upgrading currently) |
| 01:37.17 | apprentice | oh. can u help me do that then |
| 01:37.47 | Aji-Dahaka | not sure...did you find a good nodelist online if you need one? |
| 01:38.15 | apprentice | upgrade kde |
| 01:39.15 | Aji-Dahaka | I'm not upgrading kde, but freebsd just unfroze the ports tree so most of my software has incremented |
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| 01:45.49 | jetsaredim | where is KDEDIRS set? |
| 01:46.37 | madradrone | jetsaredim: i think its just an environment variable, specified like any other |
| 01:46.56 | jetsaredim | .bashrc? |
| 01:47.23 | madradrone | e.g., <ENVAR> <command> or in .bashrc or .bash_profile |
| 01:47.35 | madradrone | if you want it to be "permanent", yes |
| 01:47.59 | jetsaredim | yea |
| 01:48.00 | jetsaredim | ok |
| 01:48.01 | madradrone | i often just supply them on the command line prior to executing the command |
| 01:48.17 | madradrone | or better still, write a script that specifies it and runs the command |
| 01:49.09 | jetsaredim | well - I'm getting an error when starting kdevelop |
| 01:49.14 | jetsaredim | which seems odd |
| 01:50.37 | madradrone | just write a wrapper that calls it with KDEDIR=path; kdevelop... |
| 01:51.23 | jetsaredim | ok thanks |
| 01:51.33 | apprentice | anoyne use baghira? |
| 01:51.42 | jetsaredim | I just wasn't sure if it was kept in a kde config file somewhere |
| 01:51.49 | jetsaredim | yea me |
| 01:51.57 | jetsaredim | apprentice: y? |
| 01:52.23 | apprentice | cause im haveing a problem with getting my top bar working right |
| 01:52.36 | jetsaredim | what version are you using? |
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| 01:53.05 | apprentice | version 0.7 |
| 01:53.24 | jetsaredim | from cvs? |
| 01:54.09 | apprentice | no from suse rpms source |
| 01:54.11 | jetsaredim | I had it working for a while, but got rid of it |
| 01:54.44 | jetsaredim | the only way I could get it to work was to get rid of the config and start from scratch |
| 01:55.02 | jetsaredim | but I have a fairly new machine |
| 01:55.31 | apprentice | how do i do that |
| 01:55.46 | jetsaredim | depends on what you want to save |
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| 01:56.01 | apprentice | well all im really interested in is the top bar |
| 01:56.06 | jetsaredim | in my case I didn't need to save any of my settings so I just rm ~/.kde* |
| 01:56.14 | jetsaredim | err rm -rf ~/.kde* |
| 01:56.29 | apprentice | ?? |
| 01:56.31 | jetsaredim | that will certainly clear your kde configs |
| 01:56.39 | apprentice | well but will it help my baghira things |
| 01:57.01 | madradrone | jetsaredim: that will remove more than that, like konqueror bookmarks and possibly kmal folders |
| 01:57.07 | jetsaredim | yea |
| 01:57.14 | jetsaredim | I did say kde configs |
| 01:57.27 | apprentice | so waht acan i do |
| 01:57.50 | jetsaredim | or you could get rid of the specific config file for the appearance, but I don't know which file that is |
| 01:58.03 | jetsaredim | you could just move .kde* out of the way |
| 01:58.24 | apprentice | wont that be bad |
| 01:58.31 | jetsaredim | the think the crux of the problem was that I originally didn't select the MacOS look&feel when I initially setup |
| 01:58.32 | madradrone | backup whatever config files you do want/need, then rm -rf .kde |
| 01:58.46 | madradrone | best of all, back up entire .kde, then rm -rf |
| 01:58.54 | jetsaredim | madradrone: that works too, if you know which to backup |
| 01:59.11 | jetsaredim | backup and move ~= |
| 01:59.27 | madradrone | find ~/.kde -name konq* for example, if you want to find konqueror-related stuff |
| 01:59.44 | jetsaredim | madradrone: yea, but the app in question is kde itself |
| 01:59.44 | Oleg_ | people, where can I read about plasma, which kde 4 will be based on? |
| 01:59.54 | Hydrogen | plasma.kde.org I think |
| 01:59.59 | Oleg_ | that article on kde.org doesn't really describe plasma |
| 02:00.02 | Oleg_ | oh, thanks |
| 02:00.08 | jetsaredim | Oleg_: I thought plasma was just the desktop |
| 02:00.21 | madradrone | jetsaredim: kde is a bunch of components. nearly all of them have their own config in share/config |
| 02:00.41 | madradrone | plus kwinrc for general window settings |
| 02:00.43 | canllaith | plasma is going to be a fusion of kicker, kdesktop and other technologies to make a more cohesive desktop. |
| 02:00.45 | jetsaredim | madradrone: ok, I'm just saying I don't know which is the one |
| 02:00.50 | canllaith | It's not what all of KDE4 is going to be based on. |
| 02:00.57 | madradrone | jetsaredim: for which? |
| 02:01.13 | jetsaredim | madradrone: win decor/style |
| 02:01.24 | Alethes | damn java takes forever to compile |
| 02:01.29 | madradrone | jetsaredim: check kwinrc i think that's the one |
| 02:01.44 | Oleg_ | plasma was already created? |
| 02:02.08 | Oleg_ | oh |
| 02:02.14 | Oleg_ | it just began developing |
| 02:02.46 | Oleg_ | but I will see it if I compile kde4? |
| 02:02.49 | canllaith | no |
| 02:03.04 | canllaith | and please don't attempt to compile kde4 right now |
| 02:03.39 | Aji-Dahaka | canllaith: http://plasma.kde.org/cms/1033 for target date of milestone3, that's this year, right? |
| 02:03.49 | Sho_ | canllaith: How's "This Month in SVN" doing? :) |
| 02:04.18 | canllaith | Sho_: slowly but it's doin :) |
| 02:04.25 | canllaith | Aji-Dahaka: uh no next year |
| 02:04.43 | canllaith | Oh hang on sorry |
| 02:04.52 | canllaith | I believe |
| 02:04.55 | canllaith | We're still on milestone 2 |
| 02:05.04 | Sho_ | Aji-Dahaka: Those schedules are preliminary, so don't trust them :) |
| 02:05.21 | Aji-Dahaka | Sho_: I know they are prelim, but still... |
| 02:05.51 | Sho_ | Alethes: KDE has had a good track record of shipping releases over the last couple of years, don't you think? :) |
| 02:05.53 | canllaith | It will be finished when it's finished. |
| 02:06.07 | canllaith | You'd rather not end up with code that crashes or doesn't compile just because the date says we must be finished NOW! ;) |
| 02:06.19 | Alethes | Sho_: I've only been using kde since january, so I don't know ;) |
| 02:06.24 | Sho_ | Alethes: Besides, the Mozilla way would be to work on it until 2008 and call it KDE 6 |
| 02:06.43 | Sho_ | (like they did with Firefox 1.1 and 1.5 :) |
| 02:06.54 | Aji-Dahaka | canllaith: didn't mean that, simply that the website could reflect a revised date (or year if it means next year) |
| 02:07.09 | canllaith | Well ... why? |
| 02:07.30 | canllaith | It's not for user consumption, basically those first three milestones are 'Lets make this unbroken' |
| 02:07.45 | Aji-Dahaka | because people are very interested in plasma and its progress? |
| 02:07.50 | Aji-Dahaka | (I blame it on the name) |
| 02:07.57 | Sho_ | Well, read the intro text on the page: "he milestones as outlined below are subject to change and will not be done in the exact order they appear as many entries will be done in parallel." |
| 02:08.02 | Alethes | it's missing an X to be truly a successful project |
| 02:08.11 | Alethes | it'd have to be called PlasmaX if it was gonna fly |
| 02:08.12 | Alethes | :D |
| 02:08.29 | Aji-Dahaka | Alethes: that will be 2.0 :) |
| 02:08.32 | canllaith | Aji-Dahaka: There IS no plamsa yet, until KDE is fully ported to qt4. The project will not have anything much to show for a long time. Months, if not a year. |
| 02:08.32 | Alethes | hehe |
| 02:08.39 | canllaith | Because it's a big, huge, massive job. |
| 02:09.01 | Alethes | :D |
| 02:09.21 | Alethes | kde's look is the only thing that held me back for a long time |
| 02:09.22 | Aji-Dahaka | Alethes: I am loving the gnome cursor theme in kde |
| 02:09.41 | Sho_ | The "Industrial" cursor set? Yeah, it rocks. |
| 02:09.59 | canllaith | oh no I lie, I was using those but now I'm using suse it's some crystal set |
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| 02:09.59 | Sho_ | canllaith: I think they are, yes |
| 02:10.07 | Alethes | if gnomers have an option to make kde _look_ like gnome but have all the functionality of kde, then I bet we'd have a lot of conversions |
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| 02:11.04 | Sho_ | Can't say I like SuSEs aesthetics |
| 02:11.18 | Sho_ | The window decorations especially ... ugh :) |
| 02:11.28 | apprentice | omg a girl |
| 02:11.31 | Alethes | show me a suse screenshot |
| 02:11.38 | Alethes | it can even be a bit file, canllaith ;D |
| 02:11.41 | Alethes | big |
| 02:11.51 | canllaith | http://www.canllaith.org/foo/snapshot1.png |
| 02:12.00 | canllaith | That is my customised suse although it's lookin even nicer now. |
| 02:12.08 | canllaith | Cause I compiled taskbarv2 |
| 02:12.15 | Alethes | hah |
| 02:12.16 | Sho_ | That's not SuSE default :) |
| 02:12.18 | Alethes | took all of 3 secs :D |
| 02:12.21 | canllaith | I didn't say it was :) |
| 02:12.28 | Roey | canllaith: heya |
| 02:12.32 | Alethes | it's aqua-ish |
| 02:12.33 | Roey | do you know how to get superglue off? |
| 02:12.40 | Roey | some of it bonded to some of my fingers. |
| 02:12.43 | Roey | I tried soap and water |
| 02:12.46 | Roey | that just dried it. |
| 02:12.47 | canllaith | Alethes: combination of linspire and baghira |
| 02:12.48 | madpenguin8 | hot water |
| 02:12.49 | apprentice | anyone use baghira |
| 02:12.53 | Roey | madpenguin8: oh??? |
| 02:12.53 | Sho_ | OpenSuSE 10: http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/406/30.gif |
| 02:12.54 | Roey | hmm |
| 02:12.55 | Roey | ok |
| 02:12.58 | Sho_ | They've improved the windeco |
| 02:13.00 | Roey | madpenguin8: thanks |
| 02:13.01 | Sho_ | the 9.3 one was horrid :) |
| 02:13.04 | madpenguin8 | finger nail polish remover also works |
| 02:13.15 | canllaith | Sho_: Oooh really? |
| 02:13.25 | Alethes | *shudder* |
| 02:13.25 | canllaith | I liked the older one, the 9.1 |
| 02:13.34 | canllaith | Hang on that is the same windeco as I have on 9.3 |
| 02:13.39 | Sho_ | or 9.2? hm, at some point they had a curious segmented one |
| 02:13.54 | canllaith | I like the curious segmented one :) |
| 02:13.56 | Sho_ | canllaith: http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/158/6.gif |
| 02:14.10 | Sho_ | That's 9.2 :) |
| 02:14.27 | Alethes | anybody here ever compiled java? |
| 02:14.32 | Alethes | and if so, how long does it take? :) |
| 02:15.21 | Alethes | that blue home icon is fugly, btw |
| 02:15.27 | Roey | madpenguin8: ok, the hot water didn't work |
| 02:15.38 | Roey | madpenguin8: I have to go to sleep so I don't have time for the nail polish remover. |
| 02:15.41 | Roey | madpenguin8: thanks though |
| 02:15.43 | Roey | or |
| 02:15.44 | Roey | he |
| 02:15.50 | Sho_ | Roey: Glue yourself to the bed then |
| 02:15.51 | Roey | I'll just wait for my eyeballs to grow back |
| 02:15.51 | Sho_ | :) |
| 02:15.56 | Roey | :) |
| 02:16.03 | canllaith | Alethes: http://www.canllaith.org/foo/snapshot2.png |
| 02:16.07 | canllaith | Current :) |
| 02:16.09 | madpenguin8 | well, polish remover works instantly |
| 02:16.14 | Roey | ah |
| 02:16.23 | Roey | (I just got some on my fingers is all) |
| 02:16.40 | Sho_ | s/transparent/translucent/ |
| 02:16.47 | Alethes | I think transparent kickers look weird since the menus aren't transparent |
| 02:16.47 | madpenguin8 | hmm, I use one |
| 02:16.50 | Roey | during the course of supergluing a rubber foot back onto my laptop |
| 02:16.52 | Alethes | it seems a bit disconnected |
| 02:17.21 | Alethes | canllaith: how do you read the text on your taskbar? :P |
| 02:17.31 | Sho_ | A good question :) |
| 02:17.50 | Alethes | I like the floating icon look, though |
| 02:17.51 | madpenguin8 | see, I use kstars as my desktop wallpaper, it shows more of the current sky this way |
| 02:17.56 | crispynix | Alethes: you can make the menus transparent as well, although it's simple shading (no color specifications as with kicker) |
| 02:18.28 | canllaith | Alethes: easily, I look at the icons |
| 02:18.34 | Alethes | ah |
| 02:18.43 | canllaith | I don't read them anyway |
| 02:18.46 | Sho_ | madpenguin8: Kstars as wallpaper? Interesting idea :) |
| 02:18.52 | canllaith | I end up with 6 dessa@holly:.... |
| 02:18.58 | canllaith | and who can tell which is which? :) |
| 02:19.03 | madpenguin8 | Sho_: well, I'm sort of an astronut |
| 02:19.40 | Sho_ | madpenguin8: Sadly I never got into telescopes due to the cost factor |
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| 02:21.04 | Sho_ | madpenguin8: Can you give me your settings from the BG dialog? :) |
| 02:21.11 | madpenguin8 | yes |
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| 02:21.49 | madpenguin8 | Sho_: you are at the use program for background |
| 02:22.05 | Sho_ | Madkiss: yup |
| 02:22.07 | Sho_ | err |
| 02:22.10 | Sho_ | madpenguin8: yup |
| 02:22.14 | madpenguin8 | for command kstars --dump --filename %f --height 768 --width 2048 --script ~/.scripts/wallpaper.kstars |
| 02:22.28 | madpenguin8 | ignore the --script part |
| 02:22.35 | madpenguin8 | thats custom |
| 02:22.47 | madpenguin8 | kstars --dump --filename %f --height 768 --width 2048 |
| 02:22.55 | madpenguin8 | add you resolution there also |
| 02:23.03 | Sho_ | yup |
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| 02:25.49 | Sho_ | Hm, won't allow me to modify/reorder the program list, and "kdeworld" is before it |
| 02:27.37 | madpenguin8 | just select the one you want |
| 02:27.48 | Sho_ | ah |
| 02:27.52 | Sho_ | sorry, 4:30 AM ;) |
| 02:28.07 | Sho_ | works. nice. :) |
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| 02:36.13 | Hydrogen | bah |
| 02:36.29 | Hydrogen | you got me interested in that madpenguin8, and now I can't get it to work |
| 02:37.19 | madpenguin8 | get what to work |
| 02:37.43 | Hydrogen | kstars |
| 02:37.45 | Sho_ | works fine here :) |
| 02:38.17 | Hydrogen | command: kstars --dump --filename %f --height 768 --width 1024 preview is the same... executable is kstars |
| 02:38.17 | Sho_ | Hydrogen: Did you remember to omit the --script parameter? |
| 02:38.19 | Hydrogen | that right? |
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| 02:38.39 | Sho_ | Hydrogen: That's what I got (safe for the resolution) |
| 02:38.44 | chimpee | what are the advantages of kde over gnome? |
| 02:39.02 | chimpee | or sementic differences |
| 02:39.29 | Hydrogen | ah |
| 02:39.33 | Hydrogen | well, it runs from commandline |
| 02:39.38 | Hydrogen | albeit takes a while |
| 02:39.40 | Hydrogen | maybe thats why? |
| 02:39.40 | Sho_ | chimpee: depending on who you ask, you might hear feature-fulness and scope of applications shipped with it by default |
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| 02:40.51 | chimpee | Sho_, hmmm |
| 02:40.51 | madpenguin8 | Hydrogen: http://madpenguin8.pwsp.net/desk.png |
| 02:41.11 | Hydrogen | madpenguin8: if I run it from command line, it dumps fine |
| 02:41.21 | Sho_ | chimpee: I also find KDE apps faster than their Gnome counterparts :) |
| 02:41.22 | Hydrogen | its just not working through desktop-> advanced options |
| 02:41.26 | madpenguin8 | Hydrogen: what's your command |
| 02:41.29 | Sho_ | chimpee: I'm biased however :) |
| 02:41.34 | Hydrogen | kstars --dump --filename %f --height 768 --width 1024 |
| 02:41.51 | madpenguin8 | looks fine |
| 02:41.59 | chimpee | sho_ i don't want to pay for a QT license if i make an app for a client :D |
| 02:42.29 | madpenguin8 | chimpee: the advantages of Qt are worth the license |
| 02:42.33 | Sho_ | chimpee: You don't need to. |
| 02:42.44 | madpenguin8 | if it's a commercial app he has to |
| 02:43.09 | madpenguin8 | Hydrogen: did you do no picture for background? |
| 02:43.11 | Sho_ | why? he can just hand out the sources with the app and be paid for the service of working on it |
| 02:43.17 | Hydrogen | madpenguin8: yea |
| 02:43.29 | madpenguin8 | well |
| 02:43.41 | Hydrogen | oh |
| 02:43.42 | Hydrogen | it just worked |
| 02:43.46 | Hydrogen | had to restart kcontrol for some reason |
| 02:43.47 | madpenguin8 | Sho_: it must be released as gpl |
| 02:43.51 | chimpee | sho: true enough but that means handing intelletual property as well.. anyway i have no idea how much it costs |
| 02:43.57 | Sho_ | madpenguin8: why not? :) |
| 02:44.10 | madpenguin8 | Sho_: it sounds like he doesn't want to |
| 02:44.46 | Sho_ | madpenguin8: BTW, I assume the --script parameter hands kstars a bunch of settings like position, zoom, etc. .. I'd actually be interested in your template :) |
| 02:45.33 | madpenguin8 | Sho_: heh, well I could give you my script |
| 02:45.42 | Sho_ | madpenguin8: yup :) |
| 02:45.51 | madpenguin8 | Sho_: but kstars has it's own script builder that is a joy to use |
| 02:45.57 | Sho_ | oh :) |
| 02:46.06 | chimpee | its mostly that wether i go with KDE or Gnome will make me go with suse or ubuntu respectively... i'm not decided yet... i know i'm scrapping this fedora 4 tho |
| 02:46.11 | Sho_ | ah, ctrl+b |
| 02:46.26 | madpenguin8 | Sho_: the script builder is a excellent tool |
| 02:46.54 | Sho_ | madpenguin8: interesting approach to app scripting |
| 02:47.20 | Sho_ | I assume it exposes the dcop interface |
| 02:47.24 | madpenguin8 | yes |
| 02:47.32 | madpenguin8 | just a pretty front end really |
| 02:47.37 | Sho_ | yep |
| 02:47.45 | Sho_ | hm, kstars is an impressive app :) |
| 02:48.02 | apprentice | what is kstars? |
| 02:48.04 | madpenguin8 | Sho_: I do have a few kstars script in general on kde-files |
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| 02:48.30 | apprentice | what is it |
| 02:48.38 | madpenguin8 | planetarium |
| 02:48.53 | madpenguin8 | can control robotic scopes and everything |
| 02:48.54 | Chrisid | I downloaded a bunch of icons from http://www.gentoo.org/dyn/icons.xml, how would i get kde to use them? |
| 02:50.11 | Sho_ | Chrisid: If the 'icons.tar.bz2' down there is a proper iconset tarball, you can just use "Install new theme" in KControl |
| 02:51.03 | Chrisid | it isnt |
| 02:51.08 | Chrisid | got an error message |
| 02:51.28 | Chrisid | is it still possible to use them? |
| 02:51.44 | canllaith | In which case you'd have to manually assign icons to things by right clicking on the object who's icon you want to change |
| 02:51.49 | canllaith | and selecting 'Properties' |
| 02:51.51 | Chrisid | ouch |
| 02:51.54 | Chrisid | that would suck |
| 02:52.14 | Sho_ | Chrisid: You could copy them into the icon directory structure manually, or if it's just about a few application shortcuts here and there you can use "Change icon" in their properties dialogs |
| 02:53.11 | Chrisid | ok ill see if i can find a iconset tarball first |
| 02:53.15 | Chrisid | of those icons |
| 02:53.19 | Chrisid | else ill have to do that |
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| 02:56.46 | gravix | hello, what needs to be installed for kde's display power managment to work? |
| 02:56.59 | gravix | (currently it is enabled but not functioning) |
| 02:57.10 | Sho_ | ACPI in the kernel |
| 02:57.36 | thiago | no, just X support |
| 02:57.49 | thiago | you can set it with xset |
| 02:57.59 | gravix | all acpi options in the kernel are enabled, is there possibly anything else? |
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| 02:59.09 | Chrisid | where does kde keep its icons? |
| 03:00.05 | canllaith | in `kde-config --prefix`/share/icons |
| 03:00.16 | thiago | and all of $KDEDIRS |
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| 03:01.34 | elmariachi | hi, kennt sich jemand mit kvirc aus ? |
| 03:01.44 | canllaith | elmariachi: English please |
| 03:01.47 | canllaith | heh |
| 03:02.11 | Sho_ | o.O |
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| 03:02.44 | elmariachi | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:03.09 | canllaith | English please |
| 03:03.31 | elmariachi | does someone know how to use kvirc ? |
| 03:03.55 | Sho_ | elmariachi: What's the problem? |
| 03:04.40 | elmariachi | well i used mirc on windows and now by switching to linux and kvirc i can't find how i can get an channel list |
| 03:05.02 | Sho_ | kvirc is a pretty complex program. had a look at konversation? |
| 03:05.03 | elmariachi | every server i try iget only the same 5 channels |
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| 03:05.16 | elmariachi | lol, using konverstion right now |
| 03:05.21 | Sho_ | ah |
| 03:05.25 | elmariachi | had no problem getting channels with it |
| 03:05.46 | elmariachi | but i loved the kvirc interface |
| 03:05.56 | Sho_ | well, I'm afraid I can't help ya' with the kvirc channel list problem .. :) |
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| 03:06.13 | Sho_ | I rather dislike the kvirc interface, which is why I don't use it ;) |
| 03:06.29 | elmariachi | anyway but thanks for the help |
| 03:07.03 | elmariachi | will playing around with kvirc tomorrow, bedtime now |
| 03:07.11 | Sho_ | gute nacht |
| 03:07.21 | elmariachi | gute nacht |
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| 03:18.47 | itrebal | my .kde folder has grown to over 60 megs.... what reprocusions would occur if I just happend to accidently rm -rf it? |
| 03:19.33 | gravix | anyone know why the kicker crashes when you open a shortcut with DCOP registration "single instance"? |
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| 03:19.50 | gravix | i have to kdeinit and then kicker in a terminal to get it back |
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| 03:22.02 | Sho_ | itrebal: You'd lose your settings for all KDE apps |
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| 03:22.28 | itrebal | thanks :) |
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| 03:23.00 | itrebal | will it cause any serrius problems? |
| 03:23.23 | Sho_ | itrebal: Aside from losing all your settings ... no :) |
| 03:23.36 | gravix | lol i would consider that a serious problem |
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| 03:23.43 | Sho_ | itrebal: To some degree, also your data (example: kdetv channel list) |
| 03:23.53 | itrebal | neh, don't use that.. |
| 03:23.59 | Sho_ | itrebal: or amarok cd covers, for example |
| 03:24.01 | Sho_ | stuff like that |
| 03:24.05 | itrebal | I see |
| 03:24.13 | Sho_ | your akregator rss archive |
| 03:24.15 | Sho_ | and so on |
| 03:24.35 | itrebal | right |
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| 03:24.58 | Sho_ | a petter idea might be to spend some time finding out what exactly uses up the bulk of the 60 MB :) |
| 03:25.01 | Sho_ | *better |
| 03:25.32 | itrebal | :) |
| 03:25.51 | elijahlofgren | itrebal: You can use Konqueror's File Size view to easily see what is using the bulk of the space. |
| 03:26.08 | Sho_ | If you got kdeaddons installed, in View->Mode you'll have a "File Size View" that should be helpful |
| 03:26.46 | Sho_ | ;-) |
| 03:28.29 | itrebal | I've been using blackbox and am shocked by the filesize |
| 03:28.59 | Sho_ | itrebal: http://www.eikehein.com/fsw.png http://www.eikehein.com/fsw2.png |
| 03:29.45 | itrebal | thanks |
| 03:30.00 | Sho_ | no problem. I just like using ksnapshot. ;) |
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| 03:50.00 | JoeyJoeJo | is there a way that I can make kde fade when I change desktops? |
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| 03:52.32 | crispynix | JoeyJoeJo: Yeah; edit the source code and implement the feature. ;) Actually, you can submit feature requests on bugs.kde.org I think (wishlist items). |
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| 03:52.59 | JoeyJoeJo | I figured not.. I wish I knew enough to write the code |
| 03:53.17 | JoeyJoeJo | I'll check out the site |
| 03:53.18 | crispynix | same :/ |
| 03:53.24 | crispynix | k :) |
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| 04:07.35 | apprentice | hello |
| 04:07.38 | apprentice | can someone help me |
| 04:07.46 | apprentice | with eraseing all my kde configs |
| 04:08.52 | JoeyJoeJo | just move or delete the ~/.kde folder |
| 04:09.06 | JoeyJoeJo | probably just move it so you can see if it works |
| 04:09.38 | apprentice | what is the terminal command for eraseing a folder? |
| 04:09.46 | JoeyJoeJo | rm |
| 04:10.02 | JoeyJoeJo | well, rm with some subcommands.. let me check |
| 04:10.12 | apprentice | ok |
| 04:11.00 | JoeyJoeJo | I usually do "rm -fdr" without quotes to get rid of folders.. but be very careful.. as soon as you hit enter, it's gone |
| 04:11.04 | chavo | rm -r to remove a folder |
| 04:11.20 | chavo | but you should just move it |
| 04:11.30 | apprentice | why |
| 04:11.30 | JoeyJoeJo | yeah, use the mv command |
| 04:11.42 | JoeyJoeJo | in case you end up needing something in that folder |
| 04:11.43 | chavo | in case you want anything out of there |
| 04:11.55 | chavo | your mailfolders and mail, bookmarks, etc |
| 04:12.13 | apprentice | na i dont use kde mail |
| 04:12.16 | apprentice | or bookmarks |
| 04:12.17 | apprentice | i use opera |
| 04:12.31 | chavo | that's your choice |
| 04:12.50 | JoeyJoeJo | hehee |
| 04:12.54 | chavo | then just rm -rf it |
| 04:13.07 | apprentice | ok. thanks. btw is there someway to mkae kde lighter |
| 04:13.55 | chavo | sure. buy a stick of ram. here's a quarter ;) |
| 04:14.07 | apprentice | not the buying approach |
| 04:14.08 | apprentice | i have 512 |
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| 04:14.13 | apprentice | windows runs fine |
| 04:14.27 | chavo | what version of KDE? |
| 04:14.32 | apprentice | 3.4 |
| 04:14.47 | JoeyJoeJo | I use gentoo, and I'm able to just install the components of kde that I want, not all the extra stuff I don't need |
| 04:14.54 | JoeyJoeJo | you're distro may do the same thing |
| 04:14.58 | chavo | well, something's wrong with your config because it files for me. |
| 04:15.08 | apprentice | ? |
| 04:15.23 | chavo | I have every last kde thing installed. It doesn;t all run automatically. |
| 04:15.44 | canllaith | 512 is more than sufficient for KDE to run fast |
| 04:15.50 | canllaith | I use 256 on my laptop |
| 04:15.55 | apprentice | there u got |
| 04:16.00 | apprentice | then why does it kind of lag |
| 04:16.05 | apprentice | when i ask for performance from it |
| 04:16.26 | canllaith | Probably because your setup is not very good |
| 04:16.27 | chavo | It takes a little bit longer to startup than windows, but after that I think KDE is a little faster |
| 04:16.36 | apprentice | never |
| 04:16.39 | apprentice | has been |
| 04:16.59 | chavo | yep KDE is faster than windows and gnome is last. |
| 04:17.04 | canllaith | It's very fast here on all the slackware boxes. The suse box is a little sloewr but I suspect that's because there is lots of crap running in the background I should disable. |
| 04:17.25 | apprentice | weel |
| 04:17.30 | apprentice | kde has always been slow |
| 04:17.31 | chavo | I'm running kubuntu, but I build my own KDE. It screams. |
| 04:17.33 | apprentice | i used it in mandriva |
| 04:17.42 | apprentice | but why is it always slow |
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| 04:17.51 | chavo | waht video card do you have? |
| 04:18.01 | apprentice | interl extreme graphics 2. |
| 04:18.31 | chavo | yeah, not much you can do about that. But it's the same chip as on my laptop. |
| 04:18.49 | apprentice | u see. thats weird |
| 04:18.53 | apprentice | and u only have 256 on ur laptop |
| 04:18.55 | apprentice | but i have 512 |
| 04:20.15 | chavo | I have 384 in my laptop. But it's running Windows at the moment. |
| 04:20.26 | chavo | which is very non responsive. |
| 04:20.33 | apprentice | well my windows run perfect even with lots of performance on it |
| 04:20.38 | apprentice | linux is always lsow for me |
| 04:20.43 | canllaith | mandriva is slow. |
| 04:20.48 | apprentice | i use suse |
| 04:20.50 | apprentice | and i have slackware |
| 04:20.52 | canllaith | So is suse. |
| 04:21.04 | apprentice | i have used slack also |
| 04:21.07 | canllaith | Slackware is really really fast. For some reason lots of RPM based distros seem rather sluggish. |
| 04:21.12 | chavo | I wonder why that is. |
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| 04:21.24 | apprentice | but nop slackware wastn fast at all |
| 04:21.28 | JoeyJoeJo | I'm using kontact, and I can't figure out what to install for calendar support.. what is that? |
| 04:21.28 | canllaith | I have really no clue. I'd like to know so I can speed up my suse laptop ;) |
| 04:21.32 | chavo | it seems like KDE has gotten extremely fast in the last few versions. |
| 04:21.33 | canllaith | apprentice: then I suggest you're doing something wrong. |
| 04:21.36 | canllaith | JoeyJoeJo: korganizer |
| 04:21.37 | chavo | could be just me though |
| 04:21.45 | apprentice | what could it be |
| 04:21.47 | JoeyJoeJo | thanks |
| 04:21.56 | canllaith | There is a page on the wiki about tweaking KDE performance |
| 04:22.12 | apprentice | might i get a linky plz |
| 04:22.27 | chavo | hey canllaith , are there going to be 3.5.x releases? |
| 04:22.36 | canllaith | Yes |
| 04:22.58 | chavo | cool |
| 04:23.00 | canllaith | However I think there will be a 3.4.X first? |
| 04:23.04 | canllaith | A new bugfix release that is |
| 04:23.11 | canllaith | That is a rumour I heard. |
| 04:23.13 | apprentice | so did anyone find it |
| 04:23.17 | chavo | that's what I heard |
| 04:23.20 | canllaith | apprentice: try google, I don't know exactly where it is |
| 04:23.27 | apprentice | what would i google for |
| 04:24.49 | chavo | mousewheel scrolling in Konqueror got really slow/jittery the past couple of days |
| 04:25.03 | apprentice | like the search string |
| 04:25.37 | chavo | apprentice, http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Performance%20Tips |
| 04:25.44 | apprentice | thank u |
| 04:25.49 | chavo | no problem |
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| 04:32.18 | gravix | i need to make a cron script that does sudo killall kompmgr every hour or so |
| 04:33.09 | chavo | gravix, ok |
| 04:33.34 | chavo | oh wait, why? |
| 04:34.54 | gravix | it seems to boost performance when using the composite extentions |
| 04:35.04 | gravix | dragging windows gets clunky after a while for some reason |
| 04:35.08 | canllaith | sudo killall kompmgr? |
| 04:35.12 | canllaith | why is kompmgr running as root? |
| 04:35.39 | gravix | my bad, sudo not necessary |
| 04:35.50 | canllaith | :P you had me wondering |
| 04:35.58 | seekHim | canllaith: What do I have to do to k3b to get it to burn a Video CD (not a DVD) that my dvd player can actually play? |
| 04:36.07 | canllaith | How on earth would I know? :) |
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| 04:36.41 | gravix | getting VCDs that will play on DVD players is a pain even with windows software like Nero |
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| 04:36.50 | gravix | the dvd players are very picky |
| 04:37.06 | seekHim | gravix: So what do I do to please it? |
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| 04:37.46 | seekHim | I've tried an mpg file, I've tried an mp2 file.... |
| 04:37.57 | kendrick | wtf |
| 04:38.00 | kendrick | it's happening again! >:^( |
| 04:38.04 | kendrick | i can't print, nor can i print-to-pdf! |
| 04:38.17 | gravix | mpg is the right format, but there are many different ways to make an mpg |
| 04:38.27 | gravix | some might please your dvd player, some might not |
| 04:38.35 | kendrick | i'm trying to print test page from KDE's print manager, and it's saying "Unable to start child print process."... both for "gs" (PDF printing) and "cupsdoprint" (actual printer) >:^( |
| 04:38.49 | gravix | find someone who's had luck with your brand of DVD player and the options they used, or just try lots of different things |
| 04:39.05 | seekHim | gravix: I'm running out of cdrws |
| 04:39.12 | kendrick | print preview works in KWord |
| 04:39.25 | gravix | you can get 100 CD-Rs for less than $10 bucks :) |
| 04:39.29 | seekHim | kendrick: cups problem, maybe? |
| 04:39.34 | kendrick | i've tried with lpd, too |
| 04:39.41 | kendrick | and i don't see what cups has to do with printing to PDF :^/ |
| 04:39.45 | seekHim | gravix: Not here. |
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| 04:39.54 | kendrick | doesn't mean it DOESN'T have something to do with it... |
| 04:39.55 | seekHim | kendrick: I dunno, but cups is the standard print system now adays. |
| 04:40.02 | kendrick | this was happening for a while a few weeks ago, and then stopped |
| 04:40.15 | gravix | oh, well, that's what the going rate is in the US |
| 04:40.15 | kendrick | and now it's happening again >:^( |
| 04:41.34 | chavo | kendrick, nope definetly a planetary alignment thing |
| 04:41.38 | kendrick | grrrrrrr |
| 04:41.46 | kendrick | you having the same prob? :) |
| 04:41.50 | apprentice | what is kstars? |
| 04:41.51 | kendrick | i'm running debian/testing |
| 04:42.00 | chavo | no, I'm just being sarcastic tonight |
| 04:42.33 | kendrick | "Desktop planetarium", if that was a serious question ;) |
| 04:43.12 | chavo | you must align the planets yourself, huh? |
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| 04:44.28 | apprentice | it was a serious one and on topic |
| 04:45.17 | apprentice | what can u do with kstars? |
| 04:45.26 | kendrick | it's an astronomy application |
| 04:45.37 | kendrick | i'm kinda surprised you're not familiar with it |
| 04:45.41 | vkrishna | why does not kde show icons of the stuff created on desktop?? |
| 04:45.41 | vkrishna | i download files to desktop and i dont' see the icons :( |
| 04:45.41 | vkrishna | am i missing something? |
| 04:45.43 | kendrick | it's one of those super-killer kde apps :) |
| 04:45.46 | vkrishna | somebody!!! |
| 04:45.50 | vkrishna | any body there?? |
| 04:45.51 | kendrick | vkrishna: is kdesktop running? |
| 04:46.00 | kendrick | vkrishna: obviously, people are here, we're talking >:^P |
| 04:46.04 | vkrishna | ya |
| 04:46.08 | vkrishna | ;) |
| 04:46.15 | kendrick | are you using kwin or some other window manager? |
| 04:46.32 | vkrishna | is that a service?? |
| 04:46.42 | vkrishna | kdesktop is a service? |
| 04:46.45 | chavo | woah, kstars is cool! |
| 04:46.48 | vkrishna | im' using kde |
| 04:46.53 | kendrick | yes, kstars is cool :) |
| 04:46.59 | apprentice | im curious about desktop planitariums |
| 04:47.09 | kendrick | vkrishna: run: "ps aux | grep kdesktop" |
| 04:47.21 | kendrick | i'm not sure whether it's considered a 'service' or not |
| 04:47.30 | chavo | apprentice, have you installed kstars, it's in kdeedu? |
| 04:47.32 | vkrishna | kdesktop is running.. |
| 04:47.36 | vkrishna | :) |
| 04:47.38 | kendrick | vkrishna: interesting |
| 04:47.44 | apprentice | im in windows rihg tnow |
| 04:47.51 | kendrick | oh, i know :) |
| 04:47.53 | chavo | I installed kdeedu, but really haven't messed around with anything |
| 04:47.55 | chavo | ah ok. |
| 04:47.56 | kendrick | my wife hates icons on her desktop |
| 04:48.04 | kendrick | so she actually has KDE hide them |
| 04:48.09 | vkrishna | :)) |
| 04:48.14 | kendrick | vkrishna: go to Control Center (or Preferences) in the K menu |
| 04:48.20 | chavo | yeah, me too |
| 04:48.24 | vkrishna | just a sec... |
| 04:48.25 | apprentice | do desktop planitariums actually work like watching the sky? |
| 04:48.32 | kendrick | under "Desktop -> Behavior" there's a "Show icons on desktop" option. Is it enabled? |
| 04:48.43 | kendrick | apprentice: check out Celestia |
| 04:48.49 | kendrick | you can fly around the solar system |
| 04:49.08 | kendrick | i was following ISS on NASA TV in a Kaffiene window while following it on my desktop in celestia in 3D :) |
| 04:49.24 | apprentice | omg search for celestia in googlwe |
| 04:49.27 | apprentice | without filters |
| 04:49.31 | kendrick | uh oh |
| 04:49.31 | apprentice | and there is PORN!!! |
| 04:49.39 | kendrick | search for ANYTHING and you'll find porn :) |
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| 04:49.43 | chavo | porn, on the internet? |
| 04:49.53 | kendrick | moooooooooo |
| 04:49.58 | chavo | wow! |
| 04:50.06 | apprentice | it actually a kinky porn |
| 04:50.07 | kendrick | oops... only people familiar with Berkeley Farms would get that joke ;) |
| 04:50.08 | vkrishna | ya its' checked |
| 04:50.08 | vkrishna | hey just a sec.. |
| 04:50.09 | vkrishna | i see the icons.. but if i download a new file using firefox.. then i dont' see the icon on the desktop |
| 04:50.09 | vkrishna | thats' the problem |
| 04:50.22 | kendrick | vkrishna: what folder are you saving to? ~/Desktop/ ? |
| 04:50.36 | vkrishna | ya |
| 04:50.41 | apprentice | well besides the porn celestia seem reallyt cool |
| 04:50.42 | vkrishna | im' using fc4 by the way.. |
| 04:50.47 | chavo | vkrishna, I think it saves to ~/downloads by default |
| 04:50.58 | chavo | I haven't used it in a while though |
| 04:51.01 | vkrishna | no no.. i saved it to ~/Desktop |
| 04:51.02 | kendrick | if you go in a terminal (e.g., konsole) and "cd Desktop" and do "ls -l", do you see the same files you see on your KDE desktop? do you see the firefox downloaded ones, too? |
| 04:51.07 | vkrishna | thats' the default i set |
| 04:51.14 | vkrishna | ya |
| 04:51.15 | vkrishna | i do. |
| 04:51.24 | vkrishna | even if i go there using konqueror i see them |
| 04:51.28 | vkrishna | but not on the desktop |
| 04:51.29 | kendrick | right-click your desktop and hit Refresh |
| 04:51.37 | vkrishna | did not work.. :( |
| 04:51.43 | kendrick | explain "did not work" :) |
| 04:51.49 | kendrick | as in, no change? you got an error? |
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| 04:52.04 | vkrishna | i still dont' see the icon of the downloaded file :) |
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| 04:52.44 | kendrick | what is the file named? |
| 04:52.55 | kendrick | can you copy-paste the line from the "ls -l" output containign that file? |
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| 04:53.42 | vkrishna | p63-0x01_Introduction.txt is the name of the file |
| 04:53.55 | vkrishna | ok... just a sec |
| 04:54.03 | vkrishna | -rw-rw-r-- 1 vkrishna vkrishna 7347 Oct 3 10:24 p63-0x01_Introduction.txt |
| 04:54.18 | kendrick | ok, here's a tip. don't unset and re-set the "setIconsEnabled" option in dcop |
| 04:54.31 | apprentice | and ur planets too |
| 04:54.36 | Venson | lol |
| 04:54.37 | chavo | haha |
| 04:54.38 | kendrick | hahahah |
| 04:55.03 | vkrishna | hmm so any idea what i should do?? |
| 04:55.04 | kendrick | vkrishna: run this: dcop kdesktop KDesktopIface refresh |
| 04:55.06 | chavo | well, in 3.5 there is icon locking |
| 04:55.08 | kendrick | does your screen refresh? |
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| 04:55.15 | kendrick | chavo: 'locking'? |
| 04:55.40 | chavo | yeah, so they stay in place |
| 04:55.43 | vkrishna | how do i send message to you alone?? |
| 04:55.48 | kendrick | please don't :) |
| 04:55.49 | vkrishna | any way did not work |
| 04:55.51 | vkrishna | :)) |
| 04:55.52 | plastid | ok I'm running kde 3.5 beta 1 and um my konqueror fails the Acid2 test miserably :( ... anyone else tried it? |
| 04:56.02 | kendrick | plastid: that sucks! |
| 04:56.18 | plastid | yup d:'( |
| 04:56.51 | vkrishna | do you think its' some kinda bug in kde? |
| 04:56.55 | kendrick | vkrishna: maybe |
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| 04:57.03 | kendrick | you said you see the files if you browse ~/Desktop/ in konqueror? |
| 04:57.08 | vkrishna | ya |
| 04:57.11 | vkrishna | i can see them |
| 04:57.22 | vkrishna | that |
| 04:57.26 | vkrishna | that's the funny part |
| 04:57.34 | kendrick | you're not running any SuperKaramba or other app on the desktop that might be covering the icon, are you? :) |
| 04:57.54 | vkrishna | nope... |
| 04:58.00 | vkrishna | i dont' have that installed |
| 04:58.06 | vkrishna | so no way of running it :) |
| 04:58.10 | kendrick | the icon's not hiding under a window, or somehow hiding under the panel... |
| 04:58.35 | kendrick | if you click the desktop and start typing the name of the file, does the icon focus seem to change? |
| 04:58.47 | vkrishna | i did hide icons and then show icons in desktop behaviour |
| 04:58.51 | vkrishna | and now it shows the icons |
| 04:58.52 | kendrick | did that help |
| 04:58.54 | kendrick | weird |
| 04:59.00 | kendrick | so... maybe a bug |
| 04:59.13 | vkrishna | hmm |
| 04:59.15 | vkrishna | :( |
| 04:59.19 | vkrishna | too bad.. |
| 04:59.19 | kendrick | now... someone help me print this frickin' PDF :) |
| 04:59.29 | vkrishna | ill' try :) |
| 04:59.34 | vkrishna | lpr is the command. |
| 04:59.51 | chavo | put it on a cd and go to Kinkos :) |
| 05:00.01 | kendrick | i'm trying to print TO A PDF :) |
| 05:00.05 | chavo | oh |
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| 05:00.17 | kendrick | it's having trouble with: gs -q -dSAFER -dPARANOIDSAFER -dNOPAUSE -dBATCH -sDEVICE=pdfwrite -sOutputFile=$out{XYZXYZXYZ.pdf} -sPAPERSIZE=letter -c .setpdfwrite -f %in |
| 05:00.43 | vkrishna | hmm |
| 05:00.47 | kendrick | if i run that manually, i get: "Error: /undefinedfilename in --.libfile--" and some stack crap |
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| 05:00.56 | vkrishna | :"> sry i dont' know about it |
| 05:01.00 | kendrick | hehe |
| 05:01.01 | chavo | ooh, downloading celestia now. Looks pretty nice. |
| 05:01.05 | kendrick | yeah, neither do i |
| 05:01.13 | kendrick | chavo: works best with an accel'd 3D video card |
| 05:01.21 | vkrishna | any way thanks for your time |
| 05:01.21 | vkrishna | cya |
| 05:01.26 | kendrick | stellarium is also quite cool, though the keyboard interface is kinda lame |
| 05:01.31 | chavo | I've got a 6600GT with nvidia drivers |
| 05:01.37 | kendrick | ok you'll be set ;) |
| 05:01.41 | chavo | cool |
| 05:01.49 | kendrick | i mean, ANY 3D is better than none |
| 05:01.52 | kendrick | and it's not like it's an FPS |
| 05:02.16 | chavo | I don't play a lot of games, but I do like to play me some enemy territory |
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| 05:03.40 | chavo | well, I know nothing about ghostscript, so that looks alien to me |
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| 05:06.10 | kendrick | well this frickin' suuuuuucks >:^( |
| 05:07.33 | kendrick | heh, i can print from tuxpaint |
| 05:07.38 | kendrick | that's using lpr directly, though |
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| 05:07.55 | apprentice | wow . did u see that |
| 05:08.30 | kendrick | hrm? |
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| 05:15.05 | gravix | question: my KDE default text color is set to white, which is fine because the default background is dark grey, but in some apps (GNOME ones, I think) i end up with white on yellow tooltips which are impossible to read. is there a way to fix that? |
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| 05:16.14 | LinuxGold | hmm |
| 05:16.20 | LinuxGold | the taskbar got scrambled. |
| 05:16.28 | LinuxGold | bars something |
| 05:16.44 | root________ | How do I watch a DVD? |
| 05:16.45 | LinuxGold | running KDE 3.4 |
| 05:16.59 | LinuxGold | libdvdread |
| 05:17.02 | LinuxGold | libdvdcss |
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| 05:18.34 | root________ | alright |
| 05:18.52 | LinuxGold | compile it into DVD program I think xine |
| 05:18.58 | LinuxGold | but I use Windows XP to watch DVD |
| 05:20.43 | factor | I have finaly got DVD stuff working good and yes xine works greatfor watching DVD in linux |
| 05:21.02 | LinuxGold | sometimes xine froze the system entirely. |
| 05:21.14 | lippel | root________: which distribution do you use? |
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| 05:21.43 | lippel | actually it shouldn't be necessary to compile anything |
| 05:21.43 | root________ | gentoo |
| 05:21.55 | factor | I have not had it freeze yet, but it use to freeze when I would full screen my mpg files not anymore though. |
| 05:21.55 | root________ | so it is nesecary to compile anything :P |
| 05:25.59 | kendrick | woah, wtf |
| 05:26.08 | kendrick | i can print and do print-to-pdf as root |
| 05:26.44 | kendrick | ;) |
| 05:26.46 | kendrick | cya |
| 05:28.39 | kendrick | ugh, or not |
| 05:28.41 | kendrick | i have an 11K file i can't open |
| 05:28.46 | kendrick | damaged >:^( |
| 05:28.47 | kendrick | fuuuuuuuuuck |
| 05:29.48 | LinuxGold | ouch |
| 05:30.37 | root________ | I don't even know what an llk is, but ouchies |
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| 05:32.38 | kendrick | 11K |
| 05:32.41 | kendrick | as in 11KByte |
| 05:33.02 | LinuxGold | 11 * 1024 Bytes |
| 05:33.16 | kendrick | :( |
| 05:33.28 | Ghostbuster | hello |
| 05:33.40 | LinuxGold | must be a text file or something. |
| 05:33.58 | kendrick | ok, so i can print to a PS |
| 05:34.02 | kendrick | file reports it as a PDF |
| 05:34.07 | kendrick | but kpdf and acroread both puke |
| 05:34.34 | kendrick | ok |
| 05:34.46 | kendrick | so i need to su to root, run kword, tell it print-to-postscript, then run ps2pdf |
| 05:34.48 | kendrick | LAAAAAME |
| 05:34.54 | kendrick | why did print-to-pdf stop working! >:^( |
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| 05:35.14 | kendrick | i googled for the various errors i've been getting, and 90% of it is CVS repositories of PO translations of those errors, and a bunch of dead-ends |
| 05:35.25 | kendrick | (i.e., people asking why they get the error, and noone replying) |
| 05:35.26 | kendrick | *sigh* |
| 05:35.39 | paz | hi, kendrick |
| 05:36.06 | paz | jeez |
| 05:36.23 | kendrick | heheh ;) |
| 05:36.24 | kendrick | sorry |
| 05:36.31 | kendrick | it's only taken me 70 minutes to get a PDF created >:^( |
| 05:36.42 | kendrick | when less than one week ago it was working fine |
| 05:36.44 | kendrick | *huff* |
| 05:36.46 | kendrick | fucking debian |
| 05:36.50 | kendrick | breaking things!!! >:^( |
| 05:37.14 | paz | I've been pulling my hair out trying to remember what I needed to put into the KDevelop CFLAGS thing to make the math.h library work |
| 05:37.28 | paz | I did it a few days ago by googling all over the place |
| 05:37.41 | paz | found a few instances of others running into the same problem |
| 05:37.48 | kendrick | sucks |
| 05:38.05 | paz | #include math.h is right there in the C program up top |
| 05:38.21 | kendrick | i'm gonna frickin' reboot, i think |
| 05:38.24 | kendrick | ah |
| 05:38.26 | kendrick | "-lm" ? :) |
| 05:38.33 | paz | but the program chokes in the build, thinks it can't find the math lib |
| 05:38.43 | kendrick | try -lm instead of -lmath |
| 05:38.43 | paz | yeh, -lm is a default in there |
| 05:38.45 | kendrick | oh |
| 05:38.46 | kendrick | lame |
| 05:38.49 | LinuxGold | AHA!!! |
| 05:38.49 | paz | oooh |
| 05:38.52 | LinuxGold | I got an idea!!! |
| 05:38.58 | paz | maybe -lmath |
| 05:39.00 | paz | damn |
| 05:39.10 | paz | wish I could remember what I did the other day |
| 05:39.12 | paz | what! |
| 05:39.12 | kendrick | -lame ;) |
| 05:39.18 | LinuxGold | who is the developer with network knowledge? |
| 05:39.59 | paz | I figured it out while I was running Knoppix, running live CD :-P |
| 05:40.09 | paz | gone when I rebooted (argh) |
| 05:40.55 | LinuxGold | when are the developers usually here? |
| 05:41.41 | lippel | paz: hmm, i use libc including cmath without adding libc or lm explicitely anywhere in makefile.am (which kdevelop is a frontend for, for the default KDE templates at least) |
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| 05:43.57 | paz | here it is... |
| 05:44.07 | paz | KDevelop "Project Options" |
| 05:44.20 | paz | Optional libraries to link to: |
| 05:44.29 | paz | value is "-lm" |
| 05:44.37 | paz | optional include path |
| 05:44.52 | paz | value is "-l/usr/include" |
| 05:45.09 | paz | optional CFLAGS to define in makefile |
| 05:45.16 | paz | value is blank. |
| 05:45.56 | kendrick | isn't -L usually used for paths? |
| 05:46.05 | kendrick | e.g., -L/usr/local/include -lm -lblah -lfoo |
| 05:46.20 | kendrick | i've not really ever used kdevelop, or automake stuff |
| 05:46.32 | paz | a bunch of other folks also got tripped up because they had #include math.h in the source file, but it wouldn't build without errors |
| 05:46.42 | lippel | kendrick: -L is for libs, like -L/usr/lib |
| 05:47.00 | paz | oh, it could be an "ell"; I'm looking at a sans-serif font, so it could be a pipe for all I know! ;-) |
| 05:47.34 | paz | maybe I bookmarked on my browser at work |
| 05:47.39 | paz | I'll check tomorrow |
| 05:48.02 | kendrick | -Ldir == Add directory dir to the list of directories to be searched for -l. |
| 05:48.05 | paz | kendrick, good luck on your pdf! |
| 05:48.05 | kendrick | in gcc at least |
| 05:48.16 | kendrick | i gave up |
| 05:48.20 | paz | lol |
| 05:48.21 | kendrick | i got it built, but lamely :^( |
| 05:48.22 | paz | sorry |
| 05:48.29 | kendrick | ah well |
| 05:48.33 | kendrick | i'm sick of computers ;) |
| 05:48.36 | kendrick | cya |
| 05:48.49 | paz | I got printing going on a FreeBSD installation I did today |
| 05:48.58 | paz | only took me about 6 hours to get it right! |
| 05:49.00 | paz | lol |
| 05:50.56 | LinuxGold | which kde program plays wmv? |
| 05:52.00 | paz | hmmm |
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| 06:29.05 | kendrick | LinuxGold: kaffiene i think |
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| 06:31.54 | root________ | I was asking earlier about dvd playing, and got xine as a consensus.. what would I use as a decent frontend ? |
| 06:33.06 | chavo | root________, I use kaffeine |
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| 06:34.09 | lippel | root________: codeine (see kde-apps.org) is also nice. simple and clean. |
| 06:34.44 | root________ | I'll try both.. thanx :) |
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| 06:36.45 | lippel | root________: except for codeine, i find the UIs all cluttered (KDE ones) or a hassle to use (xine-ui) |
| 06:37.08 | lippel | well, kaffeine is ok and even stable recently |
| 06:37.27 | LucMove | Hey. I am having a problem that doesn't seem to have been reported in bugs.kde.org |
| 06:37.36 | LucMove | I can't paste in kword. |
| 06:37.43 | LucMove | Has anyone heard anything about it? |
| 06:38.15 | lippel | LucMove: can you cut? =) |
| 06:38.21 | LucMove | yes |
| 06:38.35 | LucMove | and paste elsewhere. Like kate |
| 06:38.50 | LucMove | I can copy too |
| 06:39.03 | lippel | hmm, which koffice version? |
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| 06:39.33 | LucMove | kword 1.4.1 kde 3.4.2 |
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| 06:41.23 | lippel | LucMove: what happens if you choose "paste" from the menu? just nothing? |
| 06:41.37 | LucMove | that's right |
| 06:42.57 | lippel | LucMove: hmm, report it |
| 06:43.19 | lippel | i hope that's not a common bug! |
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| 06:43.33 | LucMove | I wonder if I should. Hasn't a newer version been released already? |
| 06:43.37 | Ghostbuster | what distro |
| 06:43.43 | LucMove | Slakc 10.2 |
| 06:43.49 | LucMove | ooops slack |
| 06:46.16 | lippel | LucMove: 1.4.1 is the latest |
| 06:46.26 | LucMove | oh |
| 06:46.28 | LucMove | ok |
| 06:46.41 | Ghostbuster | anyone else having that problem with slack |
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| 06:53.07 | madradrone | what's that new thing called which will be a combo of kicker + kwin + ... ? |
| 06:53.46 | LucMove | Someone in ##slack tells me he can paste into kword 1.4.1. Supposing it's something wrong with my system, what could it be? |
| 06:54.01 | madradrone | paste from where? |
| 06:54.12 | madradrone | differnt things can paste into different things, or not |
| 06:54.26 | madradrone | for example, from rxvt you cannot paste into some things, but into others |
| 06:54.26 | LucMove | madradrone: I can't paste into kword 1.4.1 |
| 06:54.35 | madradrone | that is not specific |
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| 06:54.53 | lippel | anyone with kubuntu breezy around? |
| 06:54.55 | LucMove | Like that: type, cut and try to paste back |
| 06:55.13 | LucMove | I can't paste *any* text at all |
| 06:55.19 | madradrone | yeah, FROM WHAT APP??? |
| 06:55.32 | lippel | from any app |
| 06:55.33 | LucMove | No app. Even from kword itself |
| 06:55.46 | Tm_T | lippel: Kubuntu breezy yes |
| 06:55.52 | madradrone | how are you copying? |
| 06:55.59 | lippel | Tm_T: which gcc version does it use? |
| 06:56.14 | LucMove | ctrl+c, ctrl+ins, menu command. |
| 06:56.26 | Tm_T | lippel: hmm, 4.0 ? (I'm not in home atm) |
| 06:56.30 | madradrone | what about cursor highlight? |
| 06:56.30 | LucMove | copying works. Pasting doesn't |
| 06:56.43 | LucMove | what about it? |
| 06:56.47 | madradrone | ctrl-v doesn't paste? |
| 06:56.56 | LucMove | that's right |
| 06:57.06 | lippel | Tm_T: ah, ok. i am thinking about upgrading... will make a backup first though ;) |
| 06:57.13 | Tm_T | lippel: :) |
| 06:57.19 | Tm_T | lippel: good idea ;) |
| 06:57.58 | LucMove | madradrone: ctrl+v, shift+Ins, right-click or menu command. None of that works. |
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| 06:58.20 | madradrone | LucMove: is dcopserver running? |
| 06:59.12 | LucMove | madradrone: yes |
| 06:59.17 | LucMove | I can paste into other apps |
| 06:59.24 | LucMove | But someone in ##slack tells me he can paste into kword 1.4.1. So it must be my system. |
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| 06:59.49 | madradrone | sorry i have no idea |
| 06:59.58 | LucMove | [sigh] |
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| 07:00.01 | madradrone | maybe check bug reports |
| 07:00.19 | madradrone | for kword for your distro |
| 07:00.30 | madradrone | or file one |
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| 07:00.51 | LucMove | Damn it. I could make do with Abiword, but I really miss the Auto Replace feature. |
| 07:01.32 | madradrone | i haven't tried kword in a very long time. last time i did, it didn't handle ms office docs too well and i needed a WP that did |
| 07:01.53 | madradrone | can it handle openoffice format? |
| 07:02.06 | LucMove | yes. I think so |
| 07:02.10 | Ghostbuster | yes |
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| 07:02.41 | madradrone | you guys prefer it over openoffice writer? |
| 07:02.42 | Ghostbuster | it can handle ms office docs too |
| 07:03.19 | Ghostbuster | i would use openoffice before koffice |
| 07:03.20 | LucMove | I am not using OOo while it is in beta stage |
| 07:03.29 | madradrone | LucMove: its not |
| 07:03.32 | LucMove | too damn slow |
| 07:03.41 | LucMove | 2.0 out already? |
| 07:03.47 | madradrone | LucMove: its never actually been beta, ever since it changed from staroffice |
| 07:03.48 | pirx_ | is there a graphics manipulation software with more features than kolourpaint and lighter than gimp? |
| 07:03.54 | madradrone | 2.0 is not out but still |
| 07:04.06 | madradrone | 1.x has been around a really long time |
| 07:04.19 | pirx_ | i need some simple stuff - like gradient fills for example |
| 07:04.36 | LucMove | but they still keep some mythological debugging features around that are supposed to drag everything down |
| 07:04.53 | LucMove | the urban legend says it will work at decent speed when they remove those |
| 07:05.02 | madradrone | i mean, the office release has always been stable... |
| 07:05.15 | Drone4four | anyone else here find the transluceny effects buggy espeically with XChat? |
| 07:05.19 | madradrone | s/office/official i can't type today |
| 07:05.43 | LucMove | there is translucency in xchat? |
| 07:05.47 | madradrone | pirx_: freshmeat.net |
| 07:06.17 | Tm_T | LucMove: xchat? some non-KDE app?! ;) |
| 07:06.25 | Drone4four | doesn anyone know how focused the developers are on resolving issues surrounding 3.4.2's translucency for the next KDE release? |
| 07:06.47 | madradrone | Drone4four: i have better things to do with my cpu than kill 96% of it on useless transparency |
| 07:06.53 | Drone4four | umm, well, when i have translucency turned on, the dialogue boxes in XChat are messed up |
| 07:06.56 | LucMove | what is wrong with translucency? |
| 07:07.00 | Drone4four | lol |
| 07:07.11 | madradrone | xtransset for one eats resources massively |
| 07:07.27 | LucMove | I don't like transparency either, but the little I have seen seemed to work fine |
| 07:07.45 | madradrone | i have used it. it seriously kills even very fast cpus |
| 07:08.16 | chavo | madradrone, not on nvidia cards with renderaccell enabled |
| 07:08.18 | madradrone | after about 10 minutes of "wow, that looks cool" you realize that its not that useful, and not work the severe resource hit |
| 07:08.38 | Drone4four | and switching desktops in my pager sometimes, i see glitches only iwth translucency enabled |
| 07:08.39 | madradrone | chavo: really? i have an nvidia card now. i will try it |
| 07:08.54 | chavo | I don't use transparency, only shadows |
| 07:08.56 | LucMove | I've never seen the point in that. Can you really read text behind a "transparent" widget? |
| 07:09.08 | Drone4four | LucMove, yes |
| 07:09.12 | Drone4four | with the right colours |
| 07:09.43 | LucMove | so can I. But it's very uncomfortable |
| 07:09.43 | madradrone | chavo: yeah but the transparency is what is cool! |
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| 07:09.49 | Drone4four | i can't read my XChat text boxes witransparency enabled |
| 07:09.58 | Drone4four | and i am really hoping this bug is fixed in 3.5 |
| 07:10.00 | chavo | well, I like to be able to look at my screen and instantly read what's there |
| 07:10.12 | chavo | not have to squint and hope for the best |
| 07:12.26 | Drone4four | everyone has there own opinion, chakie |
| 07:12.26 | Drone4four | i mean chavo |
| 07:12.26 | Drone4four | sorry chakie |
| 07:12.26 | Drone4four | =/ |
| 07:12.26 | chavo | exactly |
| 07:12.27 | chavo | you just read mine |
| 07:12.27 | Drone4four | =D |
| 07:12.41 | madradrone | chavo: is renderaccel enabled by default, or do you need a line in xorg.conf? |
| 07:12.41 | chavo | madradrone, you need to add it in |
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| 07:12.41 | Drone4four | madradrone, you need a few lines in xorg |
| 07:12.41 | lwizardl | hi |
| 07:12.41 | chavo | in the devices section for your card -> Option "RenderAccell" "1" |
| 07:12.45 | Drone4four | just google KDE and translucency |
| 07:12.46 | NiklasH_work | hi, does anyone know if it's possible to specify which desktop an app should open in? For example, i like my mail client to be in desktop four, but i have to move it there once it's open now |
| 07:12.56 | Drone4four | ther eis a real good duide that should be one of the first clicks |
| 07:13.33 | chavo | NiklasH_work, click the app icon and hit Advanced -> Special Window Settings |
| 07:14.12 | NiklasH_work | chavo: great, thanks! |
| 07:14.19 | Drone4four | *guide |
| 07:14.22 | Drone4four | there is* |
| 07:14.28 | chavo | Then click on Geometry tab, Desktop -> Force -> whichever desktop you want |
| 07:14.33 | LucMove | there should be an option for that in kfmclient |
| 07:14.52 | chavo | well, force will mean you can't move it at all. |
| 07:15.19 | chavo | Apply Initially will do the trick |
| 07:15.41 | DrZoot | can anyone tell me how to apply a patch? |
| 07:15.58 | NiklasH_work | chavo: hmm... i cant find that option? I'm using the icon in the kicker panel, but i don't see an advanced tab there |
| 07:16.43 | chavo | NiklasH_work, use the icon on the titlebar, or focus the window and hit Alt-F3 |
| 07:16.55 | chavo | a menu will popup |
| 07:17.04 | NiklasH_work | chavo: ah, ok. i thought of that just after i posted the last message... :) |
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| 07:18.34 | NiklasH_work | chavo: thanks, now i've got it! |
| 07:18.40 | chavo | cool |
| 07:19.07 | chavo | that's one thing I love about kwin, my windows always open exactly where I want them too |
| 07:19.48 | NiklasH_work | chavo: yeah, that was one of the few things i was annoyed with: that i couldn't set a default desktop |
| 07:20.30 | LucMove | what is the other app that launches apps and is not kfmclient? |
| 07:20.34 | LucMove | I can't rememebr |
| 07:21.34 | LucMove | kfmexec |
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| 07:23.10 | VxJasonxV | can anyone tell me an easy way to find out my current DPI? |
| 07:23.19 | madradrone | VxJasonxV: xdpyinfo |
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| 07:24.41 | VxJasonxV | Any suggestions for a good dpi in between 75 and 96? |
| 07:24.51 | VxJasonxV | (Is there any kind of 'restriction' on dpi?) |
| 07:25.11 | LucMove | I vaguely remember something about launching an app and placing it in the tray, what was it? |
| 07:26.06 | cetex | hi, is there any way to remove the "status-bar" in konqueror? |
| 07:26.10 | NiklasH_work | ok, another question: is it possible to start konsole, make it ssh to another server, and there run screen -x? |
| 07:26.33 | NiklasH_work | i tried konsole -e "ssh niklas@server screen -x", but nothing happened |
| 07:26.55 | VxJasonxV | put screen -x in your .bashrc/.bash_profile on the remote server |
| 07:27.19 | NiklasH_work | VxJasonxV: but i don't want that every time i log in to that server. it's just for my irssi client |
| 07:27.47 | VxJasonxV | Apparently you can send an 'at logon' common down ssh |
| 07:27.49 | VxJasonxV | I didn't know that |
| 07:28.25 | NiklasH_work | VxJasonxV: yeah, it's pretty neat. |
| 07:28.45 | VxJasonxV | did you get an error when you did konsole -e "ssh niklas@server screen -x" ? |
| 07:28.48 | madradrone | try maybe passing something like ssh -T remotehost <commands> to konsole |
| 07:28.49 | VxJasonxV | did it even make the ssh connection? |
| 07:28.52 | NiklasH_work | coupled with the -f switch, you won't even know you run an X app on the remote |
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| 07:30.09 | NiklasH_work | ah, now i see. it's the screen -x command that fails. 'Must be connected to a terminal' |
| 07:31.06 | NiklasH_work | never mind, it's no big deal. thanks anyway, everyone! |
| 07:32.05 | madradrone | hmm, i'm not having luck, but i think the syntax is something like: |
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| 07:32.31 | madradrone | konsole -e "ssh -T remotehost \"uname -a; date\"" |
| 07:32.51 | madradrone | i'm not sure about the escaping of the inside quotes |
| 07:33.16 | madradrone | aha! |
| 07:33.21 | madradrone | here it is: |
| 07:33.41 | madradrone | konsole -e ssh -T remotehost "date; uname -a" |
| 07:33.50 | madradrone | but it will close instantly after running the commands |
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| 07:35.17 | madradrone | why do i have no konsole man page? |
| 07:35.29 | madradrone | must be in some other package |
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| 07:36.51 | madradrone | konsole -e ssh -T remotehost "sudo tail -f /var/log/syslog" |
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| 07:48.24 | Lord-Phoenix | does anyone here use klamav? |
| 07:53.04 | Tm_T | Lord-Phoenix: I did |
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| 07:57.23 | Lord-Phoenix | Tm_T: what do i need enabled in my kernel? |
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| 07:58.23 | Lord-Phoenix | Tm_T: i get this error when trying to install it: error: security module support must be enabled in your kernel |
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| 07:59.50 | Tm_T | Lord-Phoenix: I have no idea =) |
| 07:59.51 | kendrick | reboot fixed it |
| 07:59.59 | kendrick | i can print-to-pdf now |
| 08:00.00 | kendrick | *sigh* :) |
| 08:00.03 | kendrick | cya |
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| 08:00.24 | Tm_T | Lord-Phoenix: I just installed it, ran it twice and removed it |
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| 08:02.18 | Lord-Phoenix | Tm_T: no good? |
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| 08:03.43 | Tm_T | Lord-Phoenix: dunno then :p |
| 08:05.05 | Lord-Phoenix | Tm_T: i mean, what did you think of klamav? |
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| 08:07.05 | Tm_T | Lord-Phoenix: well, it's ok, but I just don't need it |
| 08:08.22 | Tm_T | virus scanner... what virus? |
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| 08:19.59 | Tm_T | gravix: well, I do have viruses... |
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| 08:22.28 | gravix | you seem to be infected with Ebola C |
| 08:22.33 | gravix | better download the fix for that |
| 08:22.35 | root________ | me ? |
| 08:22.51 | root________ | not even.. just testing a buggy xchat plugin I'm writing |
| 08:23.01 | root________ | trying to make it not buggy :P |
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| 08:34.33 | gravix | what it do |
| 08:34.35 | gravix | ? |
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| 08:49.27 | Rayeh | since kuickshow can open zip files with the zip:/ url handler, wouldn't it make sense to list them? |
| 08:51.35 | Rayeh | I say this mainly because of cbz files, which are commonly used to package manga, comics, and other such things |
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| 09:37.31 | pinotree | hello =) |
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| 09:38.47 | gravix | HULLO |
| 09:39.08 | gravix | ERR: VARIABLE $USERNAME NOT DEFINED |
| 09:41.39 | lippel | gravix: great. now turn off caps lock. |
| 09:42.16 | lippel | gravix: and try not to tell too many details |
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| 09:43.05 | gravix | I know not what is this mysterious caps lock of which you speak |
| 09:44.16 | lippel | its a key above to your left shift key. the most useless key on the keyboard. |
| 09:44.49 | propagandhi | the MOST useles?? i think not |
| 09:45.06 | gravix | what about this key? ||||||| |
| 09:45.11 | gravix | whoever uses that dumb thing |
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| 09:45.50 | lippel | gravix: that is used all the time by programmers |
| 09:46.03 | lippel | and you need it for ascii art ;-) |
| 09:46.22 | gravix | i never use it for anything except a pipe in xterm |
| 09:46.25 | lippel | propagandhi: well, the most annoying key at least |
| 09:46.33 | lippel | and pipes, of course |
| 09:46.35 | propagandhi | lippel: ok i concede |
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| 09:47.10 | lippel | propagandhi: i wouldn't mind if it was next to scroll-lock ;-) |
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| 09:47.40 | propagandhi | ha ha |
| 09:47.57 | propagandhi | thats true though, it annoys the hell out of me when i accidentally hit caps |
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| 09:51.22 | timlinux | does anyone know if there is an apt repository for kde3.5 beta for debian woody? |
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| 09:52.23 | propagandhi | no i dont know of one |
| 09:52.57 | pinotree | timlinux: you'd better ask in #debian-kde |
| 09:53.18 | timlinux | ah thanks |
| 09:53.23 | timlinux | see ya! |
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| 09:56.08 | gravix | ever met one of those people who send emails and shit in all caps |
| 09:56.19 | gravix | there was one admin dude at my HS who did that |
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| 10:05.42 | berkes | good morning people |
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| 10:06.18 | berkes | does anyone know where konq or kwallet stores the sites that I marked as 'never save password' |
| 10:06.20 | berkes | ? |
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| 10:07.00 | berkes | I hit that button for a site, but want to save the password now, yet I have no clue how to 'unset' my previous choice |
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| 12:07.05 | peratu | Hi. |
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| 12:17.39 | yahya | I'm not able to run KDE under CYGWIN on windows xp |
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| 12:24.43 | xbeanx | Does the settings:/ protocol actually work in KDE 3.4? I'm using mandriva and when I type that in I get "Unknown settings folder" |
| 12:24.59 | xbeanx | Everything else works like system:/ media:/ |
| 12:26.20 | xbeanx | Under protocols in kcontrol it doesn't give me any info :( |
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| 13:38.06 | pinotree | PhilRod: \o/ |
| 13:38.12 | PhilRod | heya pinotree :-) |
| 13:38.22 | PhilRod | only just managed to get on the uni network |
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| 13:50.04 | chimaera | can anyone confirm that media:/ is working w/ ieee1394 storage devices as well? |
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| 13:52.07 | shirk | hi, is ist still possible to embed vim into kdevelop >= 3.2.91? |
| 13:52.19 | annma | kvim maybe |
| 13:52.25 | annma | not vim itself |
| 13:52.42 | shirk | I can use the kvim vimpart in the whole system except kdevelop |
| 13:53.05 | annma | ah, into kdevelop! |
| 13:53.12 | annma | sorry, I did not read that correctly |
| 13:53.27 | annma | no, only Katepart and Qt editor in kdevelop |
| 13:53.37 | annma | nothing else :( |
| 13:53.46 | shirk | but i used vimpart with older versions of kdevelop |
| 13:54.59 | annma | yes but the kdevelop team removed it |
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| 13:55.15 | annma | add a wish for it to be readded in kdevelop for kde4 |
| 13:55.37 | annma | I think another vim clone is getting better than kvim in fact |
| 13:55.40 | shirk | I'm on the kde4 developer list... |
| 13:55.44 | annma | Ysis or something? |
| 13:55.54 | shirk | Yzis yes.. i gave it a try |
| 13:56.00 | annma | a kdevelop wish |
| 13:56.21 | annma | so I think if there'll be a vim editor it's Yzis which will be it |
| 13:56.28 | annma | in kdevelop |
| 13:56.46 | shirk | Yzis is embedable in kdevelop but it's not for hardcore vimers... |
| 13:57.07 | annma | no idea, shirk, I am not a vim user |
| 13:57.26 | annma | but the best is tomake a kdevelop with via a bug report on bugs.kde.org |
| 13:57.41 | annma | that way your wish will be written and will stay until done |
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| 14:00.42 | shirk | thanks anyway |
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| 14:12.39 | bEe_ | hello |
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| 14:12.50 | PhilRod | hi bEe_ |
| 14:13.03 | bEe_ | how can I add camera support to konqueror? |
| 14:13.28 | bEe_ | last time i've merged kde i have camera into it |
| 14:13.33 | Blissex | bEe_: what does that mean? |
| 14:13.48 | bEe_ | "camera:/ protocol isn't supported" |
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| 14:14.28 | bEe_ | i've merged gphoto2 - it is ok |
| 14:14.44 | bEe_ | but i want to get my camera via konqueror |
| 14:14.44 | Blissex | bEe_: the KDE application is called Kamera IIRC |
| 14:15.14 | bEe_ | no.. i did that with konqueror... |
| 14:15.39 | bEe_ | but i can't find any USE-flag into kdebase packaga (i'm sorry - i'm gentoo user) |
| 14:16.10 | bEe_ | how can i see all supported protocols for konqueror? |
| 14:16.13 | Blissex | bEe_: well, almost all modern cameras have a USB storage device interface, that is they appear in the system as a mountable USB flash stick would |
| 14:16.38 | bEe_ | Blissex, i know that... but my Cannon Powershot A400 is not a usb-storage... |
| 14:16.58 | bEe_ | it is something like "point - to - point" |
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| 14:17.03 | X2 | hi |
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| 14:17.06 | X2 | guys, how do i make (in X, KDE 3.3) my double click mouse to select & copy too like in the console with gpm ? |
| 14:17.13 | bEe_ | just forget the correct term |
| 14:17.26 | PhilRod | the camera:/ ioslave lives in kdegraphics |
| 14:17.33 | PhilRod | I have no idea how gentoo splits that up |
| 14:17.46 | pinotree | ~split-ebuilds |
| 14:17.48 | apt | If you didn't build the whole of a KDE module, we can't offer support. See http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-devel&m=110806759516927&w=2 for the reason. Try #gentoo if you don't want to install the full KDE module. |
| 14:17.55 | Blissex | bEe_: to see your protocols go to 'Settings:Configure Konqueror:Previews & Meta data' |
| 14:18.02 | bEe_ | PhilRod, i don't use split ebuilds |
| 14:18.18 | bEe_ | Blissex, thatnk for your information |
| 14:18.55 | Blissex | bEe_: or do 'about:konqueror' and click at the bottom on 'transfer protocols .... many more' |
| 14:20.20 | Blissex | bEe_: also, the app is digiKam, not Kamera. Probably if you get digiKam installed, that also installs the 'camera:' kioslave. |
| 14:20.30 | bEe_ | no |
| 14:20.47 | bEe_ | i had camera ioslave before installed digikam |
| 14:21.46 | bEe_ | oops |
| 14:21.50 | Blissex | bEe_: do 'locate kio_kamera' |
| 14:21.53 | bEe_ | i'm sorry friends |
| 14:22.02 | bEe_ | just emerge -pv kdegraphics |
| 14:22.09 | bEe_ | it has gphoto2 use flag |
| 14:22.17 | bEe_ | after gphoto2 installed |
| 14:22.35 | bEe_ | so i will rebuild kdegraphics to have kamera ioslave |
| 14:22.45 | bEe_ | sorry to trouble you.. thank you very much |
| 14:26.08 | X2 | guys, must stupid but... how do i make (in X, KDE 3.3) my double click mouse to select & copy too like in the console with gpm ? |
| 14:26.08 | chimaera | can anyone confirm that media:/ is working w/ ieee1394 storage devices as well? |
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| 14:29.45 | annma | what is a ieee 1394 storage device? |
| 14:30.06 | straw | annma: firewire |
| 14:30.33 | annma | I don't have such devices |
| 14:30.51 | Blissex | chimaera: looks OK here... |
| 14:31.28 | Blissex | chimaera: a FW/SBP2 storage device looks like a SCSI device to things like that, so it does not matter it is FW/SBP2. |
| 14:31.46 | annma | chimaera: is your device recognized outside KDE? can it be mounted? |
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| 14:33.01 | Blissex | chimaera: also note that 'media:/' works by looking at '/etc/fstab'... |
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| 14:37.31 | chimaera | Blissex: a) it's working, just not showing up in media b) cd-rom drive and usb-storage devices work w/o an entry in /etc/fstab |
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| 14:38.33 | chimaera | and i don't have anthing on scsi in kinfo as well.. |
| 14:39.13 | Blissex | chimaera: thats weird, because both 'usb-storage' and 'sbp2' supported devices pop up as SCSI devices, in '/proc/scsi/scsi' for example. |
| 14:40.39 | chimaera | err, i don't even have /proc/scsi. (stripped down kernel). |
| 14:41.55 | Blissex | chimaera: thats practically impossible, and if you dont have it how can whatever program discover which SCSI drives are available, if not from '/etc/fstab'? |
| 14:42.33 | Blissex | chimaera: '/proc' is an _essential_ part of the system. And it costs practically nothing. If you disabled it, bad news. |
| 14:42.53 | chimaera | Blissex: a) i have the scsi-stack itself, just not the /proc extension. b) cd and usb removeable media are detected by hal & co |
| 14:43.17 | chimaera | Blissex: read: i have proc, just not /proc/scsi. |
| 14:43.56 | Blissex | chimaera: if you have '/proc' and the scsi subsystem loaded, you should have '/proc/scsi' too. |
| 14:45.21 | Blissex | chimaera: if you have set 'CONFIG_SCSI_PROC_FS' to "n", then you are a very advanced system guru and I should not presume to understand your logic :-) |
| 14:47.53 | chimaera | Blissex: well, that'S exactly it. i have disabled it. thing is that sata and ieee1394 itself ir working, even w/o scsi_proc. i just wonder if this is the problem. anyhow, i might as well recompile the kernel.. |
| 14:48.16 | oGALAXYo | any turkish citizens in this channel ? |
| 14:48.50 | Blissex | chimaera: of course it works, but many utilities scan '/proc/scsi/scsi' to find which SCSI units are out there... |
| 14:50.07 | chimaera | Blissex: that would make sense.. we'll see in a few minutes. |
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| 15:05.22 | chimaera | brb. probably.. |
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| 15:15.18 | chimaera | re.. |
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| 15:37.21 | s3g | hello, how can I add support for turkish in kde? do I need to recompile it? |
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| 15:37.42 | edge87 | can anybody help me fix my res? |
| 15:38.00 | edge87 | 640X480 is hurting my eyes :( |
| 15:38.05 | PhilRod | edge87: it's done at the X level, so you might want to ask in #xorg or #yourdistro |
| 15:38.29 | edge87 | alright, so xorg passes those variables to kde.. |
| 15:38.47 | edge87 | i have one more kde question, when i first boot my system , why doesn't kdm work? is that something i had to of installed? |
| 15:38.56 | edge87 | i don't want it booting to a prompt |
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| 15:41.21 | langenberg | Are there some improvements in the use of composite in KDE-3.5? I remember X doing a strange lockup when KDE's splash screen appeared. |
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| 15:42.35 | chakie | canllaith: nice "this month in svn" issue. thanks a lot |
| 15:44.09 | PhilRod | edge87: that's another one to ask in #yourdistro - every distribution does it differently |
| 15:44.22 | aseigo | langenberg: no. that's a combination of X's drivers still sucking for composite (being worked on, but will require at least one if not more new releases of X) and the composite engine we are currently using which will only be replaced come kde4 |
| 15:45.18 | edge87 | philrod: i use #Gentoo by anychance do u know that? |
| 15:45.59 | langenberg | aseigo: Okay thanks for the explaination. |
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| 15:48.52 | Sho_ | edge87: Look at Gentoos desktop guides |
| 15:48.54 | PhilRod | edge87: I've never used gentoo, but there's both #gentoo and #gentoo-kde (or is it #kde-gentoo?) where you can ask gentoo-specific questions |
| 15:49.14 | Sho_ | edge87: As for kdm, 'rc-update add xdm default' & set your session manager to kde in rc.conf |
| 15:50.05 | edge87 | thanx everybody |
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| 15:57.05 | frb | if I choose an interface through kinternet, does it drop all the others? |
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| 16:30.34 | Tm_T | ...whacko... |
| 16:30.35 | March-RX8 | hello |
| 16:30.45 | March-RX8 | could someone help me to configure hotkeys? |
| 16:30.56 | PhilRod | March-RX8: sure, just ask |
| 16:31.28 | March-RX8 | i need to set my logitech itouch keys for rise the volume and mute |
| 16:31.42 | PhilRod | there's a section in the user guide that might help |
| 16:31.48 | PhilRod | I should teach the bot |
| 16:31.53 | PhilRod | ~multimedia-key |
| 16:31.55 | PhilRod | ~multimedia-keys |
| 16:32.00 | March-RX8 | user guide?? |
| 16:32.06 | March-RX8 | which kde guide? |
| 16:32.07 | PhilRod | the kde user guide at docs.kde.org |
| 16:32.13 | March-RX8 | thanks |
| 16:32.14 | PhilRod | ~ug |
| 16:32.16 | apt | ug is, like, http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/userguide/ |
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| 16:33.04 | March-RX8 | do i need sth else? |
| 16:33.14 | March-RX8 | like hotkeys module etc.. |
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| 16:33.59 | PhilRod | not if you've installed the full kdebase module |
| 16:34.14 | PhilRod | apt_: multimedia-keys is http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/userguide/adding-extra-keys.html |
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| 16:35.56 | March-RX8 | thanks |
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| 16:39.28 | March-RX8 | thats ok, i found how to give a funtion to a key that way |
| 16:39.43 | March-RX8 | but what is the action of rising decreasing volume? |
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| 16:40.35 | PhilRod | dcop call to kmix |
| 16:40.45 | March-RX8 | thanks |
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| 16:41.46 | Oleg_ | can someone explain to me the meaning of this sentence please: |
| 16:41.55 | Oleg_ | The fourth edition and last of the KDE 3.5 series of This Month in SVN is now ready for consumption. |
| 16:42.11 | Oleg_ | I don't understand it |
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| 16:43.04 | Oleg_ | fourth edition? last of the 3.5 series? I don't get what they mean! |
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| 16:45.23 | PhilRod | Oleg_: the next "this month in svn" will be about kde 4, and not 3.5 |
| 16:45.41 | PhilRod | (3.5 is feature frozen, so there won't be any more new features before release) |
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| 16:46.47 | Oleg_ | thanks |
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| 16:47.58 | March-RX8 | <PhilRod> dcop call to kmix |
| 16:48.08 | March-RX8 | what parameters?? |
| 16:48.15 | March-RX8 | to increase and decrease? |
| 16:48.46 | March-RX8 | it wants remote object, function call,and arguments |
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| 16:49.12 | PhilRod | oh wait, there's a global shortcut for it: run kmix, go to settings->configure global shortcuts |
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| 16:49.23 | PhilRod | select "increase volume" and set the key you want there |
| 16:49.34 | March-RX8 | really? |
| 16:49.51 | March-RX8 | i thought it worked just with kmix open |
| 16:50.28 | PhilRod | yeah, you need kmix running for that |
| 16:50.50 | PhilRod | if you don't want kmix running, you can call some command line app |
| 16:51.03 | March-RX8 | i hav kmix running |
| 16:51.13 | PhilRod | oh, so it's OK then |
| 16:51.21 | March-RX8 | but it doesnt hav any shortcut for incr /decr |
| 16:51.46 | PhilRod | what kde version? |
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| 16:51.52 | March-RX8 | 3.4.2-55 |
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| 16:52.40 | PhilRod | do you have a settings->"configure global shortcuts" menu item? |
| 16:54.00 | March-RX8 | no,configure shortcuts |
| 16:54.05 | March-RX8 | without global |
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| 16:55.08 | PhilRod | hrm, must be new in 3.5 |
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| 16:55.30 | March-RX8 | how can i install 3.5?? |
| 16:56.11 | PhilRod | it's not final yet but there are beta packages available for most distros |
| 16:56.28 | PhilRod | it's probably not worth upgrading just for volume up/down :-) |
| 16:56.37 | March-RX8 | no |
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| 16:56.56 | March-RX8 | but there should be a way through khotkeys |
| 16:57.42 | PhilRod | yes, you need to call a command line app like "alsamixer" |
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| 16:58.20 | PhilRod | you might need to wrap it in a little script |
| 16:58.58 | March-RX8 | i just need to know the dchop command to decrease and i am ok... |
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| 16:59.35 | PhilRod | I don't think there is one apart from the kmix one, but there might be - take a look in kdcop |
| 16:59.47 | March-RX8 | ok |
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| 17:13.50 | chandoo | hi can any one help me with translucency |
| 17:16.13 | Cerulean | chandoo: What part of it, precisely? |
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| 17:18.17 | ben9 | anyone here use konserve? |
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| 17:22.40 | ^marcs | hi, can some one tellme if kde compile with distcc? |
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| 17:24.30 | bitrain | does anyone know where the font size of the terminal and text fields is specified in the kde 3.5? (btw terminal settings window doesn't come) |
| 17:25.02 | frb | bitrain: global font settings under appearance in the control center |
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| 17:26.28 | bitrain | thanks, it seems that I have to set it really much bigger then other fonts to let it have the same size |
| 17:27.54 | bitrain | in my stable kde 3.4 I have everything at 10 points, in the kde 3.5 I have it know at 13 points |
| 17:29.59 | ponto | bitrain: another resolution in the new installation? |
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| 17:30.50 | bitrain | the 3.4 comes with fedora, the 3.5 is compiled by me. Same screen |
| 17:32.07 | bitrain | but I don't think it matters where it is compiled. (same qt version) |
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| 17:32.35 | ponto | bitrain: same X configuration? |
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| 17:34.06 | bitrain | I run them at the same time, just logged in on a different virtual screen with startx -- :1. does that create a different X config? |
| 17:34.46 | ponto | bitrain: you could run xdpyinfo and look at the resolution values. The DPI value is interessting |
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| 17:36.50 | bitrain | screen #0: dimensions: 1400x1050 pixels (474x356 millimeters) resolution: 75x75 dots per inch. Same in the other kde |
| 17:37.24 | ponto | thats strange. |
| 17:37.48 | ponto | However I do not believe that your screen has pysically 75 DPI. |
| 17:37.50 | bitrain | kubuntu also had those small fonts |
| 17:38.28 | bitrain | I don't know much about that, I have a laptop screen: 15 inch, 1400x1050 resolution |
| 17:42.16 | frb | that sounds closer to 110dpi iirc |
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| 17:44.10 | ponto | bitrain: Using a wrong resolution does not explain the differences between both desktops. |
| 17:45.07 | bitrain | but I think X uses the same config for both display's so the resolution should be the same then? |
| 17:45.46 | ponto | bitrain: yes. |
| 17:46.08 | frb | depends |
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| 17:46.24 | frb | are you _sure_ it's the same config? |
| 17:46.57 | ponto | frb: when xdpyinfo reports the same values it shoulb be identical |
| 17:47.01 | bitrain | on my kde 3.4 it says: display 0:0, on the kde 3.5 display it says: dsplay 1.0 |
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| 17:47.49 | bitrain | and I only see 1 xorg.conf in /etc/X11 |
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| 17:48.57 | ponto | bitrain: when you open openoffice on both screens. and type a 72pt A. Do they have differnet sizes? |
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| 17:49.37 | frb | 72pt should be 1in in height |
| 17:49.58 | bitrain | going to check now |
| 17:50.07 | ponto | frb: only the bounding box into which the characters barely fit. |
| 17:51.44 | bitrain | bounding box barely fit? you mean when I select it, there much space around it |
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| 17:52.47 | frb | true, but it's pretty darn obvious if your font is 72pt and your dpi is wrong, if they aren't even close to 1in in height |
| 17:53.24 | bitrain | 1 inch = ~ 3? cm |
| 17:53.40 | bitrain | 2.54 :) |
| 17:53.41 | ponto | frb: but the problem is not the correct DPI setting. the problem is: different font sizes with the same DPI setting |
| 17:54.12 | bitrain | they are about the same, I can make a screenshot and compare them if you want. |
| 17:54.42 | ponto | bitrain: they are the same in openoffice? then try it again with kate |
| 17:54.57 | bitrain | ok |
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| 17:57.12 | bitrain | I think the kde one is smaller, going to take a screenshot on both desktops now to make sure |
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| 18:00.29 | bitrain | the one from the kde 3.5 is smaller |
| 18:00.50 | bitrain | going to open openoffice again and make screenshots there too |
| 18:04.19 | bitrain | openoffice is the same, the A from kate in kde 3.5 is about 3/4 of the one from the kde 3.4 |
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| 18:12.45 | ponto | bitrain: maybe ask the kde devel guys. |
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| 18:13.09 | miguser | hi |
| 18:14.09 | bitrain | ponto: ok, thanks for your help |
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| 18:40.46 | Lars_G | Greetings. |
| 18:41.15 | Lars_G | Question, is there any way I can pass arguments to a Session while starting konsole, and have the arguments passed onto the program launched by the session? |
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| 18:43.26 | seekHim | Lars_G: Best suggestion I can come up with is a shell script. |
| 18:44.13 | Lars_G | seekHim: Hmmm yes. Or I can create the session with the graphical layout and a shell, and pass the command AND arguments via -e right? |
| 18:44.39 | seekHim | Lars_G: That, I don't know. |
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| 19:01.10 | spiral | hi |
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| 19:10.29 | Lars_G | Question, I like unrolling bars in my Kicker to group applications by logical sets. Normally in KDE the only way I've found of doing this, Is editing a special menu / menu set for these programs, and adding the menu to kicker, is there a simpler way/applet to do it? (kmenuedit is a little akward to use while creating this) |
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| 19:22.29 | mactalla | at what point in the startup sequence is KDED (supposed to be) loaded? I'm trying to figure out why I have to manually start it after logging into KDE. |
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| 19:36.40 | X2 | guys, must stupid but... how do i make (in X, KDE 3.3) my double click mouse to select & copy too like in the console with gpm ? |
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| 19:37.26 | mactalla | X2: it doesn't already do that? |
| 19:37.39 | panzar | anyone owns the O'Reilly book "Linux Cookbook"? |
| 19:37.45 | mactalla | X2: mine does, and I don't think I've changed anything from the default. |
| 19:38.09 | mactalla | X2: note, though, that to paste, it's the middle mouse button, not the keyboard paste, which is a different buffer. |
| 19:38.09 | X2 | no, double-click selects, i must do right click-copy then paste.. which is annoyng |
| 19:38.30 | mactalla | X2: try the middle mouse button |
| 19:38.51 | X2 | mactalla: i have microsoft wheel mouse... i'll try now |
| 19:39.11 | X2 | thank |
| 19:39.11 | X2 | s |
| 19:39.12 | mactalla | X2: works? |
| 19:39.16 | X2 | works.. i said its stupid :) |
| 19:39.33 | mactalla | X2: the keyboard paste (ctrl-c / ctrl-v) is another buffer. |
| 19:39.50 | mactalla | X2: pretty useful when you want to highlight something to replace it... gets in the way of the mouse buffer in those situations |
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| 19:46.03 | X2 | mactalla: thanks again :) |
| 19:46.13 | mactalla | no one has a clue re:kded? |
| 19:46.19 | mactalla | X2: anytime |
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| 20:18.49 | jcurry | i can connect using dialup to my isp with pon ispname, but kppp does not connect, and hangs? why? |
| 20:20.43 | annma | can you start kppp from konsole and look here at the output? |
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| 20:22.58 | jcurry | annma, i guess i can try that, but that would mean i have to disconnect :) |
| 20:23.12 | annma | you said it hangs |
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| 20:23.28 | annma | and does not connect but you are connected? |
| 20:23.36 | jcurry | annma, off the top of my head, i don't think there were any errors...is there a different way to launch it to get errors, so i could have a better question? |
| 20:23.47 | jcurry | annma, well, i connect with pon myisp |
| 20:24.16 | jcurry | annma, just kppp doesn't work...but the settings are identical to /etc/ppp/peeers/myisp |
| 20:24.24 | jcurry | peers* |
| 20:25.14 | annma | hmmm, you can gdb it |
| 20:25.17 | annma | or strace it |
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| 20:25.47 | jcurry | i'll have to do that, and come back with an error message...thanks! |
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| 20:36.23 | March-RX8 | hello |
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| 20:38.09 | March-RX8 | how can i make my keyboard's multimedia keys working for increase and decrease volume? |
| 20:39.13 | PhilRod | did you follow the instructions in the userguide? |
| 20:39.29 | PhilRod | brb |
| 20:40.02 | mactalla | March-RX8: do you use kmix? |
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| 20:41.35 | ch|maera | March-RX8: install kmilo |
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| 20:47.01 | March-RX8 | thanks |
| 20:47.20 | March-RX8 | yes i use kmix |
| 20:47.43 | mactalla | March-RX8: Are your multimedia keys already recognized by the X server? |
| 20:47.58 | March-RX8 | yes |
| 20:48.02 | mactalla | March-RX8: 'cause if so, just add Shortcut keys to kmix, and use your multimedia keys for that. |
| 20:48.08 | mactalla | March-RX8: no extra program req'd |
| 20:48.33 | March-RX8 | i cant addd shortcuts in kmix |
| 20:48.40 | mactalla | March-RX8: why not? |
| 20:48.49 | mactalla | March-RX8: what version are you running? |
| 20:48.53 | March-RX8 | 3.4 |
| 20:48.57 | mactalla | March-RX8: that has it. |
| 20:49.04 | March-RX8 | *3.4.2-5-mdk exactly |
| 20:49.22 | mactalla | March-RX8: kmix -> settings -> configure global shortcuts |
| 20:49.32 | March-RX8 | i dont hav global shortcuts |
| 20:49.48 | March-RX8 | if u want i send u a desktop pic |
| 20:49.59 | mactalla | March-RX8: canyou right-click on your Master? |
| 20:50.18 | March-RX8 | yes |
| 20:50.22 | jcurry | mactalla, my multimedia keys are not recognized by X, I had to use a program called 'lineak'...but how can i get them recognized? |
| 20:50.48 | March-RX8 | ok i clicked on the master |
| 20:51.10 | mactalla | jcurry: does xev see output from them? |
| 20:51.23 | mactalla | March-RX8: right-click. the menu. what it have anything for shortcut? |
| 20:51.29 | March-RX8 | yes |
| 20:51.35 | mactalla | March-RX8: just add it there |
| 20:51.36 | March-RX8 | i setted but they wont work |
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| 20:52.44 | mactalla | March-RX8: mmm never had that before. Try a more typical key combo first. like Win-U or something. |
| 20:52.47 | March-RX8 | it wont do anything |
| 20:52.54 | March-RX8 | ok |
| 20:53.11 | mactalla | March-RX8: it won't accept your key as a shortcut, or it puts it there, but doesn't affect the volume? |
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| 20:53.39 | March-RX8 | it puts but doesnt affect |
| 20:53.49 | mactalla | March-RX8: do the other keys affect? |
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| 20:54.31 | mactalla | jcurry: If xev sees your keys, then you can edit xorg files to add your keyboard layout and have them act as normal keys. |
| 20:54.50 | March-RX8 | yes but not the way i expected |
| 20:55.12 | mactalla | jcurry: if you do that, you can submit a patch to xorg so you don't have to patch it at every update :) My keyboard just got added a few days ago, so when I move up to 7.0 it should already be there |
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| 20:55.36 | mactalla | March-RX8: What's different between the way you expect and the way it's behaving? |
| 20:55.54 | jcurry | mactalla, it gives me a "KeymapNotify event", not like a normal key...which xorg files do i edit/look for my keyboard in? |
| 20:57.24 | mactalla | jcurry: have a look at this: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Use_Multimedia_Keys |
| 20:57.37 | March-RX8 | mactalla : when i had mandrake 10.1 with kde 3.2 or in kububtu, when i press the volume keys a blue bar appeared in the middle of the screen and show the volume level |
| 20:57.57 | mactalla | jcurry: at the bottom it shows the changes to the xorg files, farther up shows how to get the key details for your specific keyboard |
| 20:58.00 | March-RX8 | here: 1st of all multimedia keys wont work |
| 20:58.07 | March-RX8 | 2nd no indicator |
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| 20:58.47 | mactalla | March-RX8: the indicator I would assume is some extra application that I've never seen. I've only ever used my keys as regular shortcut keys. |
| 20:59.04 | March-RX8 | indicator comes from hotkeys |
| 20:59.19 | mactalla | March-RX8: hotkeys or khotkeys? |
| 20:59.42 | March-RX8 | hotkeys, cause it worked also in gnome |
| 21:00.00 | March-RX8 | i think khotkeys is based on it |
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| 21:00.29 | March-RX8 | why? |
| 21:00.29 | mactalla | March-RX8: I don't know much about hotkeys or khotkeys. |
| 21:00.37 | mactalla | Crashing on startup. |
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| 21:03.21 | *** topic/#kde is KDE 3.5 beta1 is out: http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-3.5beta1.php | KDE FAQ: http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/faq/ - The answer to your question might already be here! | Please don't flood the channel, use a paste service: http://rafb.net/paste | Please state your distribution and KDE version when asking questions | New features in development versions: http://www.canllaith.org/articles.html |
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| 21:04.21 | PhilRod | mactalla: what's crashing on startup? |
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| 21:05.22 | test | Using host libthread_db library "/lib/tls/libthread_db.so.1". |
| 21:05.23 | test | (no debugging symbols found) |
| 21:05.23 | test | `system-supplied DSO at 0xffffe000' has disappeared; keeping its symbols. |
| 21:05.32 | test | this was kmail |
| 21:06.59 | mactalla | PhilRod: khotkeys. But I figure the issue is perhaps deeper down. KDED doesn't start at startup; I have to start it manually after I logon |
| 21:07.37 | PhilRod | mactalla: did you try creating a new user? |
| 21:08.12 | Roey | hi |
| 21:08.12 | PhilRod | test: more info please. What happened? What did you do before it happened? |
| 21:08.16 | Roey | how do I set gamma in Kaffeine?? |
| 21:08.17 | mactalla | PhilRod: no. will try that. |
| 21:08.45 | mactalla | PhilRod: migrated to gcc4 ;) |
| 21:10.56 | March-RX8 | my khotkey crash too |
| 21:11.14 | March-RX8 | for every user |
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| 21:12.23 | March-RX8 | i just need to insert khotkeys in startup..is there a way? |
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| 21:15.09 | praseodym | whats this time track program in kde called |
| 21:15.24 | March-RX8 | ?? |
| 21:15.25 | praseodym | simple application which logs how long you are busy with something |
| 21:15.25 | pinotree | praseodym: where do you see it? |
| 21:15.29 | jcurry | praseodym, karm |
| 21:15.33 | praseodym | ty |
| 21:15.59 | jcurry | sure |
| 21:16.13 | praseodym | haven't got it installed.. so thats why I cant find it in my kmenu |
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| 21:17.38 | jcurry | praseodym, that'll do it everytime :) |
| 21:18.03 | praseodym | yeah :) |
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| 21:23.05 | bushwakko | I found a bug in kde3.5beta1 |
| 21:24.39 | bushwakko | if you use macos style menubar in 3.5 it starts to the right, and also I have taskbar and systray on it, and it locks up during exit.... |
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| 21:28.26 | PhilRod | bushwakko: if you can describe it more fully, report it as a bug on bugs.kde.org |
| 21:28.45 | bushwakko | yup |
| 21:29.15 | jcurry | bushwakko, that way, it has a chance to be fixed... |
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| 21:33.38 | Thorrn4 | hello someone help me: I get an error stating that "Could not start process Cannot talk to klauncher", how can I activate it? |
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| 21:34.07 | Thorrn4 | I recently switched from the kdm to the gdm....could that be it? |
| 21:34.08 | PhilRod | when does that error appear? |
| 21:34.27 | Thorrn4 | when I try to use Konqueror to view my system files |
| 21:34.45 | Thorrn4 | pretty much.....konqueror doesnt work |
| 21:35.04 | Thorrn4 | doesnt even connect to the internet |
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| 21:35.29 | koala_man | stale socket files? |
| 21:35.37 | PhilRod | exit KDE, delete ~/.DCOP*, ~/.ICE*, /tmp/kde* and try again |
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| 21:39.16 | agra | I'm having trouble executing konqueror, i get a window that says dcopserver should be running. Is there some way of avoiding this? |
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| 21:39.48 | agra | hehe unable to start Dr. Konqi.. |
| 21:39.49 | Thorrn4 | I fixed the problem....after my computer froze, I reset it, and now the gdm is loaded; klauncher works again |
| 21:39.50 | PhilRod | agra: are you trying to run it within a KDE session? |
| 21:40.00 | agra | nope, in fluxbox. |
| 21:40.54 | PhilRod | try what I suggested to Thorrn4 |
| 21:41.00 | agra | oh. |
| 21:41.58 | Thorrn4 | PhilRod, what was that? I didnt get to read it, my computer froze |
| 21:42.15 | PhilRod | <PhilRod> exit KDE, delete ~/.DCOP*, ~/.ICE*, /tmp/kde* and try again |
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| 21:43.49 | agra | I also get iceauth not found in path. |
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| 21:44.04 | Thorrn4 | ok PhilRod thanks |
| 21:44.05 | mb_ | hey |
| 21:44.12 | mb_ | could some one help me with meinproc? |
| 21:44.30 | mb_ | since 10 mins its starting all the time and laggs my computer - any ideas? |
| 21:44.53 | Thorrn4 | um.... PhilRod do u know of any codecs (besides w32codes) that can help me make a .WMV work? |
| 21:45.11 | PhilRod | agra: it's installed as part of X here - find out what package you need to install to get it for your distro |
| 21:45.36 | mb_ | any one? :F |
| 21:45.38 | PhilRod | Thorrn4: win32 codecs work for me. Perhaps there's a #mplayer or #xine channel where you can ask |
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| 21:46.07 | PhilRod | mb_: are you perhaps generating an index of your KDE documentation? |
| 21:46.15 | mb_ | no |
| 21:46.27 | mb_ | i never did that |
| 21:46.37 | Alethes | this is majorly lame |
| 21:46.46 | Alethes | I have to have gnome installed to get azureus installed |
| 21:46.46 | Alethes | heh |
| 21:47.12 | mb_ | PhilRod, any clue how i can stop meinproc running? |
| 21:47.23 | Oleg_ | azureus is based on gtk, not on gnome, as far as I remember |
| 21:47.45 | Alethes | yeah, but the freebsd port has it depending on eclipse which depends on all the gnome libs |
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| 21:47.54 | Oleg_ | ok |
| 21:48.02 | mb_ | get gentoo :p |
| 21:48.06 | PhilRod | mb_: meinproc is used to generate HTML versions of the KDE documentation from the docbook source. Are you running khelpcenter or perhaps compiling KDE? |
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| 21:48.14 | Alethes | gentoo is wannabe freebsd :) |
| 21:48.27 | PhilRod | Alethes: pkg_add is your friend :-) |
| 21:48.36 | mb_ | nope PhilRod |
| 21:48.39 | Alethes | PhilRod: yeah, that'd be fine, except I'm on 4.9 at the moment |
| 21:48.45 | Alethes | which isn't supported |
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| 21:48.52 | PhilRod | ah, too bad |
| 21:48.55 | Alethes | yeah |
| 21:49.04 | Alethes | I'm gonna be updating, but I need to do some other stuff with azureus first |
| 21:49.38 | Alethes | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:49.40 | Alethes | *twitch* |
| 21:49.49 | mb_ | hmm |
| 21:50.03 | mb_ | seems that its stops running now |
| 21:50.05 | Alethes | I know there's an issue with pre-5 fbsd and threads, right, PhilRod ? |
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| 21:50.29 | PhilRod | Alethes: yeah, it's when the big thread changeover happened. Somehow I managed not to get bitten by it |
| 21:50.37 | mb_ | any way thank you :] |
| 21:50.48 | mb_ | for trying to help :] |
| 21:50.51 | PhilRod | mb_: maybe a cron job did it |
| 21:51.35 | mb_ | nope :) checked it already |
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| 21:53.22 | PhilRod | hrm, no idea tehn |
| 21:53.25 | PhilRod | then* |
| 21:53.31 | mb_ | np |
| 21:53.51 | PhilRod | sleep |
| 21:53.56 | Alethes | anybody here have win2000 pro with shutdown.exe from the resource kit installed? |
| 21:54.36 | Alethes | I don't wanna install the whole reskit for shutdown.exe |
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| 21:56.52 | daum | kde is dropping ARTS? |
| 21:58.00 | Hydrogen | ytes |
| 21:58.03 | Hydrogen | for 4 |
| 21:58.15 | daum | 4? |
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| 21:59.39 | daum | Hydrogen, when is it expected to happen? i see on the 3.5 beta they still have arts in t |
| 21:59.40 | daum | it |
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| 21:59.46 | Hydrogen | for kde 4 |
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| 21:59.53 | daum | ah |
| 22:00.53 | bushwakko | ok, poste |
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| 22:01.08 | bushwakko | Backtrace: |
| 22:01.08 | bushwakko | 0: /usr/bin/X(xf86SigHandler+0xa0) [0x808c170] |
| 22:01.08 | bushwakko | Fatal server error: |
| 22:01.08 | bushwakko | Caught signal 11. Server aborting |
| 22:01.18 | bushwakko | x quits when I start konversation |
| 22:01.44 | bushwakko | kde3.5beta1 still |
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| 22:06.27 | Johann_ | i'd like to test kde3.5b1, but i can't, there are a missing packet on my distro :-( |
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| 22:07.41 | rr72 | aseigo~ its been a while |
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| 22:08.44 | daum | how stable is kde3.5 beta1 |
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| 22:09.40 | rr72 | how stable is 4.0? |
| 22:10.18 | Hydrogen | it isn't |
| 22:10.20 | Johann_ | 4.0 is totally unstable |
| 22:10.22 | Hydrogen | .. |
| 22:10.29 | apokryphos | doesn't even, erm, run, really |
| 22:10.29 | Hydrogen | about as stable as windows |
| 22:10.30 | Hydrogen | :P |
| 22:10.34 | apokryphos | quite a mission to compile ;-) |
| 22:11.13 | bushwakko | anyone else have problems with konversation shutting x down? |
| 22:11.19 | Hydrogen | nope |
| 22:12.08 | Kev-UK | <bushwakko> I've just put Konversation on. Seems ok so far |
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| 22:17.27 | rr72 | canllaith~ hey hey |
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| 22:23.47 | illogic-al | amaroK Live CD release! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH!!! |
| 22:23.52 | illogic-al | Par taaaaaaaaaaaay |
| 22:24.41 | Johann_ | :) |
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| 22:33.32 | adamt | why do all people have to play with my hardware? now someone removed the powerchord from my dock to my digicam => no power when i want to use it :( |
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| 22:34.29 | _chavo | IT\y wasn't me. |
| 22:34.31 | lord_crow | hiya |
| 22:34.34 | _chavo | woops |
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| 22:40.14 | Oleg_ | so, if I understand it correctly, qt4 is very different from the previous versions; that's why it takes much longer to port kde to it? |
| 22:41.07 | adamt | kde is very big |
| 22:42.23 | X2 | bye, guys |
| 22:43.32 | adamt | ##gnome got 24 users, #kde have 202 online users hmm.. |
| 22:43.50 | frb | gnome has their own network |
| 22:43.56 | adamt | ohh right |
| 22:44.05 | adamt | didn't make much sence either =/ |
| 22:44.25 | frb | and who joins ## channels anyway? |
| 22:44.49 | adamt | frb: #gnome forwards to ##gnome |
| 22:44.55 | apokryphos | a lot of people |
| 22:45.06 | apokryphos | (php, linux, apparently gnome etc) |
| 22:45.21 | adamt | frb: read the freenode guidelines, then you see why |
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| 22:46.21 | frb | I read them, they confused me, so I forgot them |
| 22:46.37 | adamt | i forgot them too ;) |
| 22:49.21 | Oleg_ | downloading qt4 |
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| 22:52.39 | Aji-Dahaka | any way to have k3b make svcds out of something other than mpeg? |
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| 22:56.59 | illogic-al | Aji-Dahaka: I'm not sure but you may want to check the handbook. |
| 22:57.56 | Aji-Dahaka | illogic-al: kk, the message that pops up says mpeg only, but thought maybe someone had an encoding plugin |
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| 22:58.58 | Johann_ | Aji-Dahaka: it's normal |
| 22:59.30 | Aji-Dahaka | huh, that's too bad...will have to reencode some video |
| 22:59.38 | Johann_ | svcd is normalised |
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| 23:01.04 | Johann_ | it's like a cd-audio witch can't contain video... |
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| 23:02.11 | Aji-Dahaka | right, but I have divx and want to create an svcd. I understand that it has to be moved to mpeg before the svcd can be authored, but it would be nice if k3b could do it for me... |
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| 23:08.35 | tuxipuxi | where can i see the away/NA message of a user in kopete? (ICQ) |
| 23:09.17 | illogic-al | tuxipuxi: IF you hover over there name with a mouse |
| 23:09.46 | agra | I still get the weird dcop error, do I need to run the kde dcopserver x framework thing, if I'm not running konqueror from kde? |
| 23:10.06 | agra | I wish there was a easy solution. |
| 23:10.13 | tuxipuxi | illogic-al: hm i tried that but the away message isn't included in the tooltip. the users i'm trying it with always have a message |
| 23:10.49 | agra | I may just cut my losses and not bother using it anymore, I mainly like konqi because of the large previews of images and files.. |
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| 23:12.44 | illogic-al | agra: seeing that I've no idea what the "weird dcop error" is I can't really help can I/ |
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| 23:19.53 | *** topic/#kde is KDE 3.5 beta1 is out: http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-3.5beta1.php | KDE FAQ: http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/faq/ - The answer to your question might already be here! | Please don't flood the channel, use a paste service: http://rafb.net/paste | Please state your distribution and KDE version when asking questions | New features in development versions: http://www.canllaith.org/articles.html |
| 23:20.06 | illogic-al | amaroK! |
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| 23:20.42 | jmg | hey guys |
| 23:20.47 | jmg | kde clobbers my acpi configuration |
| 23:21.03 | illogic-al | LIES |
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| 23:21.11 | jmg | klaptop to be exact :) |
| 23:21.22 | illogic-al | that sounds reasonable. |
| 23:21.24 | illogic-al | :-) |
| 23:21.36 | illogic-al | jmg: what do you mean by clobber |
| 23:21.54 | jmg | illogic-al: doesnt resume from suspend properly... immediately powers off |
| 23:22.06 | jmg | it fully restores session... and then shuts down |
| 23:22.17 | illogic-al | have you tried doing this from the command line? |
| 23:22.22 | jmg | illogic-al: how? |
| 23:22.27 | illogic-al | i don't know. |
| 23:22.46 | illogic-al | but this just sounds like a distro problem. |
| 23:23.09 | illogic-al | ACPI is something KDE messes directly with. |
| 23:23.37 | illogic-al | BUt for me all i really do is set whether the Poweer button shutdowns down the computer gracefully or turns off instantly |
| 23:24.50 | canllaith | chakie: hey, you're welcome :) |
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| 23:35.55 | agra | oh, ok. I'll elaborate. I get a DCOP communications error when I load Konqueror. It says there was an error setting up inter-process communications for KDE. The message returned by the system was: "Could not read network connection list ~/.DCOPserver_aftermath__0" and it says "Please check that the 'dcopserver' program is running!" |
| 23:36.01 | agra | sorry for all that. |
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| 23:49.49 | frb | where do I get kkeyled? |
| 23:51.46 | pinotree | frb: ? |
| 23:52.36 | frb | klineakconfig for lineakd can use kkeyled for keyboards that don't have lights |
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