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00:05.09 | welson | Alethes, svg allows rotation of text -> http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/ |
00:06.01 | Alethes | errr how is that gonna help with kwin? :P |
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00:07.03 | welson | Alethes, when svg starts becoming more of a norm, you're see this, also more pervasive would be voice xml -- anything with w3c is good, plus svg is still very much in the works-- but these things are coming out eventually.. |
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00:15.15 | alexweb | I'm tired to do that |
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00:43.53 | benno2 | I tried to compile a qt app under FC3 and I get those errors (qt-3.3.4). any idea ? /usr/lib/qt-3.3/include/private/qucom_p.h:69: warning: ‘struct QUBuffer’ has virtual functions but non-virtual destructor |
00:54.56 | DirkGently | benno2: that's probably not why it's failed |
00:55.07 | benno2 | DirkGently: http://lists.trolltech.com/qt-interest/2005-10/msg00200.html |
00:55.29 | benno2 | DirkGently: strange ... on FC2 no warnings, on FC4 lots of annoying warnings |
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00:56.33 | straw | it's different versions of gcc, benno2 |
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00:57.13 | benno2 | straw: I know but I'd like to make those warnings go away since it makes developing harder and just set gcc to ignore them is not a good idea |
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00:57.56 | DirkGently | benno2: is it failing to build? |
00:57.57 | straw | are the warnings a result of your code, or qt's? |
00:58.36 | benno2 | DirkGently: no it builds but you get tons of warnings in qt classes, see the qt list thread url I posted. sad, nothing can be done about :( |
00:59.05 | Oleg_ | who cares about warnings if things compile anyway? |
00:59.33 | DirkGently | building KDE you get thousands of warnings |
01:00.22 | benno2 | Oleg_: i thought this too at time, but in some case warnings could cause harm and trigger bugs/race conditions/memory leaks etc |
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01:23.01 | egolost | is it possible to use kde without arts? |
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01:23.35 | egolost | and how do i know if arts are being used? |
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01:25.13 | morteoh | egolost: yes, just go into Control Center -> Sound & Multimedia -> Sound System, you can turn it off/on there |
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01:31.24 | EruditeHermit | hi, my ksysguard applet for kicker suddenly stopped showing the monitors |
01:31.33 | EruditeHermit | does anyone know why, and how I can fix this? |
01:31.50 | egolost | what is the benefits of arts with kde? |
01:32.43 | Nanobot | In my case, crashes :P |
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01:39.04 | arcanistherogue | hey, i have a questin |
01:39.14 | arcanistherogue | can i use KDE icons for a website? |
01:39.27 | arcanistherogue | its not a commercial site, its my blo0g |
01:39.30 | arcanistherogue | *blog |
01:39.44 | arcanistherogue | can i use them freely, and if so is there a database of them or something? |
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01:42.21 | arcanistherogue | ...waoh. |
01:42.21 | Nanobot | Wheeeeee |
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01:48.33 | magyar | how can i connect to a kdm login session through VNC with x11vnc? |
01:49.05 | oGALAXYo | you dont need |
01:49.22 | oGALAXYo | you can connect to it directly from within another Xsession (server, even over net) |
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01:49.34 | oGALAXYo | through the xdmcp protocol using xhost and xnest |
01:50.00 | magyar | i am at home and the system is in the office |
01:50.02 | thiago | magyar: make the VNC server start kdm |
01:50.14 | thiago | hmm... no, that won't work |
01:50.18 | thiago | kdm starts the X server |
01:50.25 | thiago | but the VNC server starts the X server... |
01:50.27 | magyar | thiago, kdm is started accept its in "login" screen |
01:50.41 | thiago | so, conclusion: you can't start kdm inside VNC |
01:51.10 | thiago | magyar: right, so make kdm start its XDMCP service |
01:51.26 | thiago | and have your x11vnc -query the XDMCP service provided by kdm |
01:51.40 | thiago | or just use NX |
01:51.41 | magyar | how do i do that? |
01:51.50 | thiago | use the -query option |
01:52.16 | straw | Xnest? |
01:52.45 | thiago | no |
01:52.47 | straw | oh, oGALAXYo already mentioned it |
01:53.33 | thiago | that would be an X server (Xnest) inside an X server (x11vnc) inside VNC inside an X server (your local session) |
01:53.44 | thiago | does anyone see 2 X servers too many? |
01:54.32 | straw | heheh |
01:55.07 | oGALAXYo | not necessarily |
01:55.17 | Theory_ | 3 too many? |
01:55.19 | oGALAXYo | you can have two xserver, sone at home, one at work |
01:55.26 | oGALAXYo | and query the one at work from your home one |
01:55.30 | oGALAXYo | and login to it as its normally |
01:55.34 | straw | i was thinking of gdmflexiserver, i guess |
01:55.35 | oGALAXYo | X -query <ip> |
01:55.43 | oGALAXYo | or something. |
01:55.57 | oGALAXYo | it will bring the kdm login from work to your local system |
01:56.08 | oGALAXYo | you can login, work on the server at office and logout of it again. |
01:56.42 | thiago | oGALAXYo: you won't be queruing the X server remotely |
01:57.00 | thiago | you may as well configure kdm not to start any X server at all |
01:58.29 | thiago | the one-X-server solution requires you to use the X11 protocol directly |
01:58.41 | thiago | NX will require a second X server as well, but it'll be running locally, not remotely |
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02:06.42 | fatejudger | how do I tell Konqueror to use arts to output sound? |
02:06.50 | chrisag | kcontrol |
02:07.08 | chrisag | then sound and multimedia |
02:07.19 | chrisag | except it's for all of KDE ;) |
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02:10.38 | fatejudger | chrisag: I don't see where to do that |
02:10.58 | fatejudger | chrisag: I have the sound system enabled |
02:11.25 | chrisag | fatejudger: as far as i know you can't specifically tell one application in kde to use one sound system versus another |
02:12.35 | fatejudger | chrisag: well how do I tell them all to use arts |
02:13.49 | chrisag | i do not remember |
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02:26.43 | hydrogen | annma: heh, like that fix :P |
02:26.56 | annma | hi! pardon? |
02:27.12 | hydrogen | about fvisibility |
02:27.35 | hydrogen | at least it stops the breakage :) |
02:28.06 | annma | oh, ok, cool |
02:28.18 | hydrogen | by disabling it, but it stops it |
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02:30.27 | TuGGer | Ji. I'm running LM 9.1 with KDE 3.1.0 - I cannot turn ToolTips off, even though it's unchecked in 'Style' dialog. Any ideas? |
02:30.56 | annma | how come? |
02:31.08 | annma | was your user a new one? |
02:32.10 | hydrogen | hrm |
02:32.15 | hydrogen | I need to get rid of some of these partitions :/ |
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02:35.29 | Oleg_ | what can I use instead of arts to hear kde desktop sounds? |
02:35.46 | annma | ogg123 |
02:36.16 | annma | TuGGer: is your user a new one? |
02:37.58 | TuGGer | annma: sorry, I didn't know you we answering me. No my user is quite old (the original), but I've had no probs with anything else (except I cannot single click either with Mouse follows action) |
02:38.50 | annma | in kcontrol, when you uncheck Enable tooltips, and you apply |
02:38.59 | TuGGer | annma: even though in the .kde dir for konquerorc (I beive) it shoiws TolTips off |
02:39.07 | annma | do you still have the tooltip on the default button? |
02:39.33 | TuGGer | annma: kcontrol -- can you access from command line? |
02:39.47 | annma | kcontrol |
02:41.13 | TuGGer | annma: under 'Style' 'Enable tooltips' unchecked in kcontrol |
02:41.33 | annma | now with the mouse get over the Default button |
02:41.42 | annma | do you see a tooltip? |
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02:44.35 | TuGGer | annma: I just clicked 'Defaults' again - checked on 'Enable Tooltips' > Apply then unchecked it.and 'Apply' -- this time it set it properly (no tooltips now), but if I reload the user, it's back to where I was before - with Tooltips enabled even though it's unchecked |
02:44.51 | annma | reload the user? |
02:44.57 | annma | explain that? |
02:45.17 | TuGGer | annma: log out, and re-login as same user |
02:45.58 | TuGGer | annma: can't do that know w/o getting off internet anbd this chat |
02:46.38 | TuGGer | annma: what I'm trying to say: it doesn't seem to save the session info in kde |
02:48.33 | annma | yes |
02:48.40 | annma | you should try a new user |
02:48.49 | annma | I was looking where this is written |
02:49.05 | TuGGer | annma: works fine in the three other users. Id of my user is 501 |
02:49.17 | annma | it's not Id that matters |
02:49.27 | annma | it's somethign in kde config file |
02:49.31 | TuGGer | I know that, but . . . |
02:49.36 | annma | I cannot find where this is saved |
02:50.17 | TuGGer | yup and only with my user -- I believ i found it in /root/tmp/... |
02:50.38 | annma | your user is root/ |
02:50.40 | TuGGer | or in .kde under sessions |
02:50.52 | TuGGer | nope - my user is tugger |
02:51.16 | TuGGer | but a lot of stuff for tugger and other users is there |
02:52.14 | TuGGer | not sure about this . . . .kde > config > session > kwin?? |
02:53.02 | TuGGer | or ~/.kde/share/config/konquerorrc |
02:53.31 | annma | have a look in the files |
02:53.37 | annma | not konquerorrc |
02:53.43 | TuGGer | In that file: ShowFileTips=false |
02:53.43 | annma | this is not a konqueror setting |
02:53.52 | annma | what file? |
02:53.58 | TuGGer | hmm . . . I'm lost then |
02:54.03 | annma | taht's not the same at all |
02:54.09 | annma | tooltips are balloon help |
02:54.21 | annma | tips are Tips of the day probably |
02:54.45 | TuGGer | maybe kdeglobals? |
02:54.46 | annma | backing up the whole .kde to .kde.bak and starting again will tell you if it's n there |
02:55.15 | annma | I looked in kdeglobals, not there |
02:55.29 | TuGGer | that's an excellent idea -- I'll do that - or maybe compare files with other user files |
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02:56.33 | TuGGer | sure can get annoying looking for the right file to modify . . . |
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02:57.18 | TuGGer | arrgh . . . kcontrol just crashed . . . |
02:57.19 | MrPingouin | hello world |
02:57.29 | MrPingouin | any karamba applet to display photos ? |
02:58.03 | TuGGer | gotta muck around a bit more -- thanks annma |
02:58.13 | annma | good luck |
02:58.17 | TuGGer | yup |
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03:16.26 | malcolm2 | I can't type e into konsole and it hides the next character too. If I type "abcdefg" I get "abcdg" |
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03:17.14 | Gentle_ | malcolm2, you sure you didn't have alt pressed or anything? That thing happens when you type Euro without having the proper locales |
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03:18.32 | malcolm2 | I'm using the dvorak keyboard but it is only in konsole - the e works everywhere else |
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03:29.28 | Chani | does anyone know whether it would be at least theoretically possible to make something that displayed different icons for svn files in konq? like tortoiseSVN in windows... |
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03:30.04 | chrisag | technically it is |
03:30.14 | chrisag | change the the mimetype icon asscociation |
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03:30.52 | nitishp | Hello. |
03:31.30 | nitishp | You know the first menu you see on the first start of KDE? (Where it tells you what level of graphical effects you want..) How do I access that again? |
03:31.43 | nitishp | I'm thinking somewhere in Control Panel, but I can't seem to find it. |
03:31.47 | nitishp | Thoughts? |
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03:33.02 | grepper | kpersonalizer |
03:33.12 | grepper | settings->desktop settings wizard |
03:33.18 | Chani | chrisag: but aren't mimetypes about diffrent file types, like gif or jpg or txt? svn files can be any type, you have to check the .svn folder to figure it out... |
03:33.29 | nitishp | Ah, thanks grepper! |
03:33.33 | grepper | nitishp: np |
03:33.52 | chrisag | ah i thoguht you were referring to .svn |
03:34.20 | nitishp | Okey doke, back to homework. |
03:34.22 | nitishp | Thanks again. |
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03:37.38 | Chani | chrisag: nope, that would be too easy and not very useful :) |
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04:10.11 | tdb30_ | I'm using perlbox voice and I want to be able to move around the windows and go to to new windows. Does anyone know how to do that? Here is a sample of how they change to a different workspace kwin KWinInterface setCurrentDesktop 1 |
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04:25.15 | fatejudger | is there a way to close tabs using a middle click in Konq? |
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05:02.31 | phild0 | hey - what command can i run to activate the screensave? |
05:02.34 | phild0 | +r |
05:02.59 | phild0 | or is there an applet i can add to the panel? |
05:04.21 | fatejudger | phild0: lock session? |
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05:06.05 | phild0 | erp - what a dumbass, didnt think it's default to screensaver, i never had one set. |
05:06.06 | phild0 | thanks ;) |
05:06.33 | fatejudger | phild0: I'm not sure whether that works, I just guessed |
05:07.34 | phild0 | nah, you're right ;) |
05:07.37 | phild0 | just tested. thanks. heh |
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05:14.46 | supo | hi |
05:17.00 | supo | i'm having a problem with graphics.. i'm using kubuntu and i have installed nvidia-glx and settings and everything, but the fps on my desktop seems very low, i enabled fast rendering from xorg.conf and it helped a little but its still kind of jammy |
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05:18.29 | supo | in game.. like tuxracer its okay and it works fine but on the desktop if i move a window it jams pretty annoyingly, and for example window decoration crystal i didn't get work.. something wrong with my transparency? iron named theme's translucency didn't work either :/ this is really bothering me and i would really appreciate if anyone has time to help me out |
05:19.12 | supo | oh, and my graphics card is geforce 6600 |
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05:32.56 | XaXXon | I can't figure out where to put my settings.. No matter where I put them, something interactive either thinks it is or isn't a login shell |
05:33.36 | canllaith | konsole --ls |
05:33.39 | canllaith | makes it a login shell. |
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05:34.02 | XaXXon | is there any reason that's not the default? |
05:34.13 | canllaith | Some people don't want it to be? :) |
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05:56.34 | mark_alec | hi Mousey |
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06:15.51 | charles` | when you rotate with X RandR with the nvidia driver you get rotation but everything doesn't resize and you get blackspace at the bottom of your screen. anyone know if this is an nvidia or KWin problem? |
06:16.16 | mark_alec | have you tested it with other window managers? |
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06:17.16 | charles` | mark_alec it doesn't seem to happen with metacity |
06:17.30 | mark_alec | in that case i would conclude it is a kwin problem |
06:18.01 | charles` | mark_alec: yeah but it still could be an nvidia problem if it just doesn't follow the spec right and metacity gracefully handles it |
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06:18.47 | mark_alec | charles`: try it with (kwin + nv driver) and (metacity + nv ) driver |
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06:19.11 | coshx | is there a good gui cvs client that will integrate seamlessly into kde, like tortoisecvs does in windows? |
06:19.33 | _poison | coshx: cervisia |
06:19.47 | charles` | mark_alec: ok, I'll give it a shot |
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06:20.15 | coshx | _poison: thanks! |
06:20.22 | _poison | np ^^ |
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06:45.31 | Mousey | is there an applet for cpufreq? |
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06:53.00 | chakie_work | pretty interesting blog on planetkde.org by adrian de g. about kde api documentation |
06:53.35 | chakie_work | when i've tried to do some kde stuff i've usually been put off by the lack of docs, there is really no organization |
06:54.03 | chakie_work | so 90% of the development time goes to crawling docs and google, meaning at least i just resort to plain qt to get my stuff done |
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07:16.11 | Oleg_ | 2:15 a.m. |
07:16.18 | Oleg_ | and I ain't sleeping |
07:16.23 | canllaith | Hiya Oleg_ |
07:16.32 | Oleg_ | hi |
07:17.08 | Oleg_ | how are you? |
07:17.15 | canllaith | not bad :) |
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07:19.41 | Oleg_ | reading about Cfront in wikipedia |
07:20.42 | ravi_ | Has anyone of u heard abt tempest |
07:22.45 | ravi_ | Xcuse me |
07:34.47 | Oleg_ | I see that g++ compiles programs that don't have int in front of main() |
07:35.05 | cpw | Oleg_: sure, why not |
07:35.10 | cpw | Oleg_: all it does is assume void |
07:35.36 | Oleg_ | but void main ain't standard, as far as I remember |
07:37.58 | cpw | that's what they want you to think |
07:38.19 | cpw | but yah, for the quality assurance of "Hey, did that program run properly" it's a good idea |
07:38.35 | cpw | otherwise you cant check for, say, $? in bash to see if your program runs |
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07:49.09 | blackvd | no one here |
07:49.12 | blackvd | ? |
07:49.21 | blackvd | ok be back later |
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08:14.49 | Mousey | are there no acpi monitor applets for kde? =( |
08:21.23 | GraveDigger | Mousey: well, there are afaik some karamba applets that do |
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08:42.58 | HellSp4wn | Is there any way to make Akregator use konquerors adblock-functions? |
08:43.42 | dystopianray | ah yeah I am also interested about that :) |
08:43.51 | dystopianray | advertisements in rss feeds are very annoying :/ |
08:45.29 | HellSp4wn | dystopianray: It isnt stat important in the rss-feeds for me, but when I open the whole article in a tab - thats enoying... |
08:45.38 | HellSp4wn | s/stat/that/ |
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08:46.08 | dystopianray | ah yeah tabs would be annoying too, I always set it to open the articles in konq externally |
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08:51.30 | joshuafr | hello |
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09:01.14 | joshuafr | I have a small problem with Kate 2.4.1 on a Debian Sid, If I click in konqueror on a document placed on the network, kate opens it by copying it in a tempory local file. What do I have to change for having the document opened directly in kate via smb:/ or fish:/? |
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09:06.52 | hoorayforme | joshuafr: do the "previews and metadata" settings have any effect? |
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09:19.31 | joshuafr | hoorayforme: sorry for the waiting. Where do you find these options? |
09:19.59 | hoorayforme | joshuafr: configure konqueror from the menu |
09:21.41 | joshuafr | hoorayforme: sorry, but my kde is in french, I don't find them |
09:23.28 | joshuafr | certainly, I just want to know where to go in the menu :-P |
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09:50.30 | cilkay | Hello. Is there a way to schedule an email to be sent at a particular time from KMail? |
09:50.47 | cilkay | This is a feature from Eudora that I miss terribly. |
09:51.35 | cilkay | I know I can schedule an email to be sent using KAlarm but that is not the same thing. The sent message will not appear in my Sent Mail folder in KMail. |
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09:56.40 | thiago | no |
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10:05.50 | extraord1nary | Hello,please tell me how i can to install liquid??? |
10:06.11 | extraord1nary | I have liquid lwp-8.6.skz |
10:06.25 | extraord1nary | but I don't now how I can install it |
10:06.42 | cilkay | thiago: were you responding to my question? |
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10:07.10 | cilkay | ... about scheduling an email from KMail |
10:08.02 | thiago | cilkay: yes |
10:08.09 | cilkay | Thanks. |
10:08.47 | cilkay | Perhaps there's a way to script it with DCOP. Will look into that. |
10:10.02 | joshuafr | hoorayforme: me again, I don't find previews and metadata options. Where are they? |
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10:32.13 | agenteo | hi, I've just emerged kiosk now I'm getting some errors while I save the new profile. I'm doing this as a normal user... can anybody help me? |
10:32.34 | agenteo | I don't know why the tool is trying to save the profile on this destination: fish://root@localhost/etc/kderc |
10:32.50 | thiago | in order to save it as root |
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10:51.20 | halcyonCorsair | hey, what kind of spam protection can i setup in conjunction with Kmail? |
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10:54.02 | canllaith | halcyonCorsair: spamassasin, bogofilter... hrm. Not sure what else. |
10:54.05 | canllaith | The wizard will tell ou |
10:55.28 | halcyonCorsair | canllaith: why is the right side of the wizard greyed out? with the "unsure" section? |
10:55.44 | canllaith | no clue since I'm not looking at your wizard :p |
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11:01.30 | halcyonCorsair | bleh :) |
11:03.55 | canllaith | halcyonCorsair: if you actually showed me what you meant or explained it I might have a chance in hell of knowing what you were talking about though :P |
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11:06.02 | halcyonCorsair | canllaith: anti-spam wizard, selecting the spam filters to be created, i'm unable to select a "target folder for unsure" and the listview is greyed out |
11:06.21 | canllaith | Do you use online imap? |
11:07.40 | halcyonCorsair | canllaith: nope |
11:07.46 | halcyonCorsair | canllaith: pop3 only |
11:08.02 | canllaith | That seems a little strange. |
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11:16.08 | Skrotto | dot down? |
11:16.31 | pinotree | hello =) |
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11:45.27 | shastry | anyone know how to play an audio cd in amarok ? |
11:45.33 | shastry | hi btw |
11:45.35 | shastry | ;P |
11:46.04 | mark_alec | shastry: there is an option in the 'Actions Menu' to 'Play Audio CD' |
11:48.32 | shastry | ah |
11:49.45 | shastry | noo. |
11:49.49 | shastry | its disabled |
11:49.52 | shastry | greyed out :( |
11:50.23 | pinotree | try to install the kdemultimedia kio-plugins |
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11:56.55 | *** topic/#kde is Latest releases: stable: 3.4.3, development: 3.5 RC 1. See www.kde.org | KDE FAQ: http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/faq/ | Please don't flood the channel, use a paste service: http://rafb.net/paste | Please state your distribution and KDE version when asking questions | New features in development versions: http://www.canllaith.org/articles.html |
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12:07.59 | pinotree | morning PhilRod :-) |
12:08.18 | PhilRod | heya pinotree :-) |
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12:08.50 | pinotree | hehe |
12:13.44 | PhilRod | along with the slightly annoying fact that some stuff didn't upgrade automatically, so I have to do it by hand, but that's not a huge problem |
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12:18.59 | Alcapond | Hi - I need some help with my KDE / gentoo installation. My KDE acts strange - KMIX always starts with persistent windows, I cannot enter cookie-settings in Konqui or use KWallet, I cannot print out of kde-apps and quite some more strange things happen. I have (r)emerged KDE - nothing changes - different user have the same problem. I assume a problem in DCOP or in the rights management somewhere - anybody got a clue or has some time to help me |
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12:21.19 | PhilRod | Alcapond: did you install the full kdebase package? |
12:22.03 | Alcapond | PhilRod: yes I upgraded from 3.4 to 3.5 - so everything was upgraded |
12:22.37 | PhilRod | ok, so you're not using the split ebuilds? |
12:23.19 | Alcapond | PhilRod: I used the meta packages like kde-base/kdebase-3.5.0_rc1 |
12:23.24 | Alcapond | and so on |
12:23.30 | PhilRod | ok, good :-) |
12:24.25 | shastry | hey |
12:24.27 | Alcapond | PhilRod: but nothing changed |
12:24.39 | shastry | audio cd entry showed up in amarok.. i had to use arts/gst engine |
12:24.44 | shastry | thnx |
12:24.45 | shastry | cya |
12:25.16 | PhilRod | when you say "different user" was that a newly-created user, or just a different user (which could have had old config files lying around)? |
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12:25.31 | Alcapond | PhilRod: a newly created user |
12:25.47 | Alcapond | PhilRod: same happens when I start kde as root |
12:26.32 | PhilRod | hrm |
12:28.17 | Alcapond | PhilRod: the problem occurs in different areas - I assume some problem with dcop - but I do not know how to check if everything is fine |
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12:29.29 | nitishp | Hello. |
12:29.40 | nitishp | In KWord, how do I get headers and footers to automatically increment themselves. |
12:29.48 | nitishp | I'm having a bit of trouble getting that to work. |
12:30.05 | nitishp | As of right now it just prints - Page 1 on every page. |
12:30.20 | nitishp | I would like it to print Page 1 on page 1, Page 2 on page 2, etc. etc. |
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12:30.26 | nitishp | In the headers that is. |
12:30.30 | berkes | oi there |
12:30.35 | nitishp | Hello. |
12:30.59 | berkes | is there a place like a repository or so to put handy konq browsing profiles? |
12:32.11 | nitishp | Sweet, never mind I got it. It's Insert -> Variable -> Page. |
12:32.22 | nitishp | Man I gotta get cracking on this research paper. |
12:32.29 | nitishp | Or I get the shaft >_< |
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12:33.02 | grepper | berkes: kde-apps.org perhaps ? |
12:33.17 | berkes | grepper: yea, indeed. |
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12:35.38 | woodefec | hey |
12:35.56 | woodefec | my suse system update wants to upgrade my kde from 3.4.3 to 3.5.0 |
12:36.11 | woodefec | is it a good idea to perform this upgrade? |
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12:37.16 | BeFalou | hi |
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12:39.20 | Roey | hi |
12:39.23 | Roey | anyone have this bug |
12:39.25 | Roey | http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=105145 |
12:39.36 | Roey | it's been in KHTML for a long, long time. |
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12:42.32 | woodefec | proceeding with kde upgrade |
12:42.36 | woodefec | its too late |
12:44.49 | Worf | Roey: do you have some url to test? |
12:45.05 | grepper | woodefec: well, its still rc - have fun :) |
12:45.11 | Roey | Worf: yup |
12:45.28 | Roey | Worf: http://blogs.sun.com/roller/page/korn/20051113 |
12:45.31 | woodefec | grepper : suse supplementary sources for KDE are risky sometimes |
12:45.49 | woodefec | but i do it from runlevel 3 |
12:45.55 | woodefec | all precautions met |
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12:46.37 | woodefec | kool that YaST has a ncurses text-mode interactive interface, same funcionality as qt YaST |
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12:47.51 | grepper | woodefec: good, the qt interface is dog slow |
12:48.01 | woodefec | grepper negative |
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12:48.05 | grepper | at least was for me when I tried suse |
12:48.13 | woodefec | it roxx now |
12:48.20 | Worf | Roey: hmm... looks somewhat interesting |
12:48.24 | grepper | ok |
12:48.24 | woodefec | compared to suse 9.1 everything is 4x faster |
12:49.01 | Worf | Roey: that page uses line-height settings a lot... |
12:49.17 | Roey | ok |
12:49.24 | Roey | firefox displays it fine. |
12:49.30 | Roey | Worf: only in KHTML do I see it like that. |
12:49.39 | Roey | Worf: and there are a *ton* of other sites that have the same problem |
12:49.59 | Worf | Roey: well, my firefox also has some ... effects ... when selecting text |
12:50.01 | Roey | is it possible to edit bug reports? I want to put a link to that URL in there. |
12:50.06 | Roey | Worf: k |
12:53.46 | Worf | Roey: well, my opinion ( as kde user ) is: selecting text looks correct on that page. question is: is the line spacing correct? |
12:54.08 | Worf | Roey: because that differs compared to firefox |
12:54.54 | Worf | Roey: i'd reconsider some settings in the stylesheet |
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12:55.42 | ffh00 | How do I set my desktop from a picture in KDE on command line? With gnome I used /background-properties-capplet -- what do I use with KDE? |
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12:58.06 | berkes | how does the konq profile "midnight commander" get its console in konq? |
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12:58.36 | rabauke | menu window > enable terminal |
12:58.45 | berkes | ah :) |
13:01.56 | rabauke | Since SuSe 10, knotify does not seem top use arts anymore. Where can I set the Sampling rate etc. for whatever engine knotify is using? |
13:02.17 | rabauke | In kcontrol I can just set the parameters for arts |
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13:07.25 | berkes | rabauke: what does it use instead? |
13:07.29 | berkes | gstreamer? |
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13:07.55 | rabauke | I do not know, the release notes said something about kdeMM |
13:08.12 | rabauke | I do not think gstreamer is installed |
13:08.26 | berkes | then I really dont know, sorry |
13:10.05 | PhilRod | rabauke: hrm, that sounds odd - do you know where the release notes are so I could take a look? |
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13:10.51 | rabauke | eh, just a second, might have been those of opensuse. arts was not installed by default and knotify worked, so it cannot be arts |
13:12.51 | rabauke | I just had a look, gstreamer is definitely not installed, maybe it uses akode, or is that not an engine? |
13:15.27 | rabauke | PhilRod: http://www.opensuse.org/Bugs:most_annoying_bugs |
13:15.32 | rabauke | search for kdemm |
13:18.07 | PhilRod | rabauke: ah, interesting. Not a bad idea, I guess, since arts in unmaintained |
13:18.46 | rabauke | yes, maybe, but I need to set the quality and sampling rate manually, otherwise the sound is noisy |
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13:26.27 | Roey | hey all |
13:26.32 | Roey | is there a way to edit bug reports? |
13:26.37 | Roey | I need to change a path there. |
13:26.59 | PhilRod | just add a comment to say so |
13:27.19 | Roey | k |
13:27.21 | PhilRod | I think you need extra privs to edit existing comments |
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13:29.08 | woodefec | why has release candidate the ver num 3.5.0-3? shouldnt it be like 3.4.9.x? |
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13:29.25 | woodefec | oh thats for betas |
13:29.28 | woodefec | i guess |
13:32.02 | incorrect | has arts been dumped? |
13:32.40 | Gentle | 3.5-rc1 includes arts |
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13:34.28 | rabauke | it has not been dumped but is not installed/used by default at least not by SuSE 10 |
13:34.44 | Roey | http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=105145 |
13:34.46 | Roey | how about that :) |
13:35.35 | PhilRod | arts is still used in vanilla KDE 3.5 as it always has been, but it's unmaintained, so no new features are going into it, and even bugs might not be fixed. KDE 4 will not use arts, but a backend-independent multimedia framework |
13:35.44 | incorrect | gentoo seems to prefer esd |
13:37.13 | rabauke | I just hope there will be settings available in kcontrol, to set sound-quality etc. |
13:37.40 | Roey | PhilRod: so you'd be able to use esd or gstreamer or alsa or oss as a backend? |
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13:41.11 | PhilRod | Roey: that's how I understand it, yes |
13:41.30 | Roey | wah. |
13:41.31 | Roey | ok |
13:41.32 | Roey | cool |
13:41.51 | PhilRod | Roey: matthias kretz gave a talk at akademy about it if you want more details - you should be able to find either a transcript or streaming ogg somewhere on the web |
13:42.06 | PhilRod | or take a look at the kde-multimedia mailing list archives |
13:44.02 | Roey | ok |
13:44.03 | Roey | thanks :) |
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14:01.26 | Roey | tomte: heya |
14:01.32 | tomte | hi |
14:01.45 | Roey | tomte: are you Tom Tervo? |
14:01.59 | Nanobot | Does anyone know what hasamimasho is? |
14:02.01 | tomte | no, I don't think so;) |
14:02.09 | Roey | tomte: oh, ok :) thanks anyway :) |
14:02.25 | tomte | Roey: is there another tomte ? |
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14:07.05 | scanwinder | anyone know a site for free virtual desktop like www.cosmopod.com which dosent have to much traffic? because i can never log onto cosmopod becuase it always has 2 much traffic |
14:07.54 | DeadS0ul | hello |
14:09.28 | DeadS0ul | cosmopod is the only one I know of, read bout it on dot.kde.org hehe |
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14:20.37 | Nanobot | So I'm in this UNIX class at school, and every assignment has been based on reading from the book, but it's about three quarters into the semester and I never bought that book :P |
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14:41.41 | DeadS0ul | LOL YOU serious? |
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15:01.09 | moi1392 | hello. I have a little bug sometimes when I shutdown kde but I can't easely reproduce it to fill a bugreport.. someone could help me ? |
15:01.21 | DeadS0ul | i can try |
15:01.43 | PhilRod | moi1392: what's the problem? |
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15:02.56 | moi1392 | thanks :) sometime, when I shutdown KDe and some application crash, KCrashHandler rise up, kwin shutdown (I think that because KCrashHandler "loose" its title bar) and the comuter does'nt finish the shutdown phase, it stop here |
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15:03.27 | DeadS0ul | dammit kaffiene still doens't play the new quicktime movies >| |
15:03.59 | moi1392 | I try to reproduce it with a simple kde app, with a volontary segfault before exiting the program, but KCrashHandler does'nt fire up when I shutdown the computer |
15:04.10 | moi1392 | the problem occur only for kopete crash |
15:04.26 | PhilRod | moi1392: if you click "close" on the crash handler, does shutdown carry on? |
15:05.17 | moi1392 | PhilRod: yes, but sometime I click on "shutdown computer" and go outside.. and I don't think my computer is always open. |
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15:06.34 | moi1392 | PhilRod: this could cause some problems, if you think your computer is shutting down and instead it doesn't do nothing |
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15:09.51 | T1T0 | hallo |
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15:14.37 | PhilRod | moi1392: someone reported that issue on the kde@ mailing list a while back. They might have filed a bug. Take a look on bugs.kde.org |
15:15.31 | PhilRod | moi1392: personally, I think it's correct behaviour (you should be aware that something crashed, and therefore it might not work properly next time), but if you file a bug, the developers will be aware of it and can tell you whether it's intentional behaviour |
15:15.40 | PhilRod | hi T1T0 |
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15:16.46 | jujimufu | how do I enable auto-mounting for USB flash disks and CD-Roms in KDE 3.4.2? |
15:16.47 | DeadS0ul | kopete crashes for me every log out too |
15:16.50 | moi1392 | PhilRod: ok thank, i'll take a look at the mailing list. for the bug, i did some differents research in bugs.kde.org and didn't find it. I prefer not filling a bug before I'm know how to reproduce it ! |
15:17.27 | DeadS0ul | jujimufu: install hal, dbus and pmount, and use umm |
15:17.45 | DeadS0ul | media:/ |
15:18.06 | jujimufu | ait |
15:18.06 | jujimufu | wait |
15:18.30 | DeadS0ul | k |
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15:19.58 | jujimufu | what's umm? |
15:21.00 | jujimufu | DeadS0ul, what's umm? |
15:23.47 | jujimufu | DeadS0ul: I inserted my usb flash disk, and it won't recognise it. I mean, it won't even appear in /dev... |
15:24.07 | DeadS0ul | are you using udev? |
15:24.31 | jujimufu | how do I check? |
15:24.43 | DeadS0ul | what distro are you using? |
15:24.53 | jujimufu | archlinux |
15:25.06 | DeadS0ul | I dunno that distro =| |
15:25.13 | jujimufu | my drives are in the /dev/hdXY form. does this mean I am using udev? |
15:25.32 | jujimufu | X = disk number, Y = partition number. |
15:25.35 | DeadS0ul | naw, that's normal with or without udev |
15:25.39 | jujimufu | hm... |
15:25.46 | jujimufu | what about my grub.conf boot line? |
15:25.47 | DeadS0ul | what kernel version do you have? |
15:26.01 | DeadS0ul | naw it won't be there |
15:26.02 | jujimufu | 2.6.10 |
15:26.13 | DeadS0ul | usb drives show up as /dev/sdXY btw |
15:26.41 | DeadS0ul | yeah you're probably not running udev I think, udev and hal require 2.6.12 now |
15:27.01 | jujimufu | hm... what if I run udev as a command? |
15:27.04 | DeadS0ul | alright check if you have /dev/sdXY |
15:27.38 | DeadS0ul | check for /dev/sdXY first =| |
15:27.48 | jujimufu | ok, I ran udev as a command, and there is still no sign of /dev/sda1 (the usual usb flash disk device) nor any other /dev/sdXY |
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15:28.12 | DeadS0ul | heck I'm not sure then >| |
15:28.33 | DeadS0ul | do you have a package manager? |
15:28.47 | jujimufu | package manager no, but I can check if there is a package or something. Why? |
15:29.10 | DeadS0ul | easy upgrades.. heh |
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15:29.32 | DeadS0ul | um i'm not sure how you can get your usb disk show up in dev |
15:29.36 | jujimufu | I can't afford upgrading to 2.6.12 or newer. |
15:29.45 | DeadS0ul | but onces you do it'll show up as /dev/sdXY |
15:29.48 | jujimufu | My modem's modules will only work on 2.6.10 or older. |
15:29.59 | jujimufu | some times it DOES show up as sdXY. |
15:30.04 | jujimufu | I mean, it\s completely random. |
15:30.12 | jujimufu | oh, what about coldplug? should I install it? |
15:30.16 | DeadS0ul | then you can mount it by using mount -t vfat /dev/sdXY /mnt/desitination |
15:30.27 | DeadS0ul | you mena hotplug? |
15:30.30 | DeadS0ul | that should work |
15:30.44 | jujimufu | I do have hotplug installed, but I think there is a coldplug module too. |
15:30.46 | jujimufu | wait |
15:30.50 | DeadS0ul | alright |
15:31.08 | jujimufu | yeah |
15:31.10 | jujimufu | "Coldplug is responsible for all devices connected before the hotplug system is |
15:31.10 | jujimufu | enabled during the boot process." |
15:31.21 | DeadS0ul | oh |
15:31.28 | jujimufu | should I try installing it then? |
15:31.51 | DeadS0ul | I guess, i dunno bout coldplug though =( |
15:31.54 | jujimufu | ok |
15:32.02 | jujimufu | I had it installed in gentoo, that's why I tell you. |
15:32.16 | DeadS0ul | but coldplug is only for the boot process.. |
15:32.51 | jujimufu | ok. |
15:32.55 | jujimufu | what about hotplug? |
15:32.57 | jujimufu | should I install that? |
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15:33.15 | DeadS0ul | install the packages, yeah |
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15:34.01 | penguinzdr | someone tell me name of a dark kde style |
15:34.04 | penguinzdr | pls |
15:34.21 | jujimufu | kde-look.org |
15:34.24 | jujimufu | penguinzdr, kde-look.org |
15:34.42 | PhilRod | if you just want everything to be dark, go to control center -> appearance -> colours, and select "dark blue" or something similar |
15:34.56 | dune_ | In KDE 3.5 alpha my time is ahead one hour. I have daylight savings time, could that be interferring? |
15:35.09 | PhilRod | it's a little tricky to get everything to match it, but it's possible |
15:35.40 | PhilRod | dune_: presumably, though I expect it's something to be dealt with at a system (ie, not KDE) level. Does 'date' output the correct time? |
15:35.41 | dune_ | Chicago Time |
15:35.59 | dune_ | No one day behind |
15:36.15 | DeadS0ul | you didn't change the timezone for your KDE clock did you? |
15:36.18 | dune_ | PhilRod, It says the 16 |
15:36.20 | penguinzdr | when saying dark i mean black |
15:36.37 | dune_ | DeadS0ul, Yes I changed it to Chicago time |
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15:36.45 | DeadS0ul | penguinzdr: make one, and send it to me =D |
15:37.25 | jujimufu | penguinzdr: do some searching in kde-look.org |
15:37.55 | penguinzdr | ok, lets stay with theme darkness. but i have a problem with darkness: the inactive button text is not showing |
15:37.56 | PhilRod | dune_: where exactly did you change it (the clock on the panel?)? |
15:38.08 | dune_ | Yes |
15:38.19 | DeadS0ul | dune_: chacnge it back to local timezone then |
15:38.36 | PhilRod | ah, that's the short version of what I was about to say :-) |
15:38.50 | DeadS0ul | =D |
15:39.14 | PhilRod | dune_: you can change the timezone that you're in using control center |
15:39.28 | PhilRod | changing the timezone on the panel clock lets you see teh time in other parts of the world |
15:40.21 | penguinzdr | how can i fix the problem with theme darkness? |
15:40.23 | DeadS0ul | penguinzdr: change it in kcontrol-> colours, and save it |
15:40.35 | penguinzdr | lets see... |
15:40.43 | PhilRod | penguinzdr: change the "inactive button text" colour |
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15:41.52 | penguinzdr | PhilRod: i dont have such |
15:42.05 | DeadS0ul | there's no inactive button text on mine either >| |
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15:43.49 | DeadS0ul | what color is your background button? |
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15:44.44 | penguinzdr | button background is black |
15:45.44 | PhilRod | looks like the colour of text on inactive buttons is computed automatically |
15:46.03 | penguinzdr | the active buttons are OK, only inactive buttons dont show |
15:46.14 | DeadS0ul | yeah thats' probably why, swithc it to a dark gray |
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15:47.57 | Raden | is there a way for me to change my graphical setting in KDE fr0om console i messed up my grphics setting and now i cant login keeps sending me back to login prompt |
15:48.29 | DeadS0ul | what distro? |
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15:49.48 | penguinzdr | now with dark-style color scheme it looks better |
15:49.52 | penguinzdr | my sister will like it |
15:50.04 | DeadS0ul | heh is she goth? |
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15:50.11 | penguinzdr | yeah |
15:50.15 | coachz | Anyone here use kate ? Is there a way to rename/delete a file in the filesystem browser? |
15:50.29 | penguinzdr | she HATE pink color |
15:50.38 | DeadS0ul | hah, pink is lame |
15:50.47 | Raden | DeadS0ul, SUSE 9.2 |
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15:50.59 | PhilRod | penguinzdr: did you get the background colour on disabled buttons to change? it doesn't change with "button background" here |
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15:51.33 | PhilRod | Raden: what error do you get when you try to log in to KDE? |
15:51.46 | DeadS0ul | Raden: dang I dunno bout SuSe =\ |
15:51.47 | Raden | just kicks me back to graphical login screen |
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15:51.57 | Raden | i can login as root or another user just not mine |
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15:52.27 | penguinzdr | PhilRod: no. i have downloaded dark-style from kde-look and evrything is cool now |
15:52.30 | Raden | i havent logged out for 3 months i rember i did somethign to graphical settings i just cant rember what |
15:52.33 | PhilRod | penguinzdr: ok :-) |
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15:53.02 | Raden | DeadS0ul, how would you do it with another distro |
15:53.39 | frb | I really want auto-complete delay |
15:53.53 | PhilRod | Raden: rm ~/.DCOP* ~/.ICE* /tmp/kde-<username> and /var/tmp/kde*username |
15:53.59 | PhilRod | and try again |
15:54.16 | Raden | PhilRod, thanks ill try it :) |
15:54.34 | deitarion | Does anyone know why my Konqueror freezes for up to a minute while rendering pages containing Japanese characters? It's been happening since I first tried viewing Japanese pages (Konqueror 3.2.x on Mandrake Linux 10.0) and I'm currently running Konqueror 3.4.1 on Gentoo Linux. |
15:54.54 | DeadS0ul | with debian..you use dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 or something like that |
15:55.12 | PhilRod | if that doesn't work, rename (*NOT* delete) ~/.kde and try again. Come back and tell us whether that worked |
15:55.17 | DeadS0ul | Raden: I think you have to edit your XF86Config, i dunno who to do it though |
15:55.29 | DeadS0ul | how to do it even |
15:55.35 | penguinzdr | cya soon guys |
15:55.40 | penguinzdr | thx for the help |
15:55.50 | Raden | 3 books out and ive been working on this all morning after someone somehow restarted the system |
15:55.58 | PhilRod | deitarion: do you have an example url? we can see if it's a bug, or a local issue |
15:56.43 | deitarion | Give me a sec to find one. |
15:56.58 | DeadS0ul | cna't be that hard |
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15:57.20 | deitarion | I think it might be an encoding-related issue since Google Japan has never shown the problem. |
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15:58.26 | deitarion | Correction, it may be a Kanji issue. It seems Google Japan does show a minor freeze if Kanji appear in the search results. |
15:59.15 | DeadS0ul | Raden: someone changed you resolution, is that why X won't start? |
15:59.40 | Raden | DeadS0ul, yeah i believe soo |
15:59.42 | deitarion | This site is an adult games manufacturer, but it's the only one that I could think of at the moment. It's currently showing one short to medium-length freeze as each frame renders. --> http://www.sis.iowave.co.jp/crowd/top.html |
16:01.38 | deitarion | If you want a more worksafe example, just google for Crowd and you should get a 1-5 second freeze since that page will appear in the search results. |
16:02.03 | Raden | and if i could just find the darn config file |
16:02.17 | DeadS0ul | it should be in your /etc/ dir |
16:02.33 | DeadS0ul | are you using xorg or xfree86? |
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16:03.34 | liquidat | Hej.... |
16:03.56 | Raden | DeadS0ul, dunno |
16:04.09 | Raden | i have a Z11R6 Directory |
16:04.14 | Raden | X11R6 |
16:04.15 | DeadS0ul | do locate xorg.conf |
16:04.21 | DeadS0ul | oh go in there |
16:04.24 | DeadS0ul | it's under /etc? |
16:04.38 | Raden | how do i locate ? |
16:04.44 | DeadS0ul | locate is a command |
16:04.49 | Raden | dont work :( |
16:05.00 | Raden | locate command not found |
16:05.13 | DeadS0ul | whereis xorg.conf? |
16:05.29 | jujimufu | DeadS0ul, /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
16:05.44 | Raden | Office:/etc # whereis xorg.conf |
16:05.44 | Raden | xorg: |
16:05.48 | liquidat | Raden: Then you have to install the findutils. |
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16:06.01 | liquidat | Raden: To have the locate program... |
16:06.18 | PhilRod | if he can log in with other users, there isn't a problem with xorg.conf |
16:06.33 | Raden | root works and every other user works |
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16:06.55 | Raden | its just my personal login and i think the res or somethign got messed up but dunno cause i havent logged out for like 60 some days |
16:07.10 | Raden | what would be a users config file for graphical login |
16:07.16 | DeadS0ul | oh.. |
16:07.21 | deitarion | That reminds me, I have to recompile Konqueror with debugging data and enable core dumps. It's stability for non-stop running of 1-2 weeks and up has improved, but it still crashes occasionally. |
16:07.24 | DeadS0ul | no wait ti could be |
16:07.31 | DeadS0ul | cos of XRandR ... |
16:07.39 | Raden | ? |
16:07.41 | DeadS0ul | it'll apply a setting on user's log in |
16:07.50 | annma | deitarion: then report crashes with backtrace |
16:08.03 | DeadS0ul | so if its' set to something too high it'll mess up |
16:08.16 | Raden | how doi i fix cause this is a common problem around here |
16:08.18 | PhilRod | Raden: rename ~/.kde/share/config/kcmdisplayrc and try again |
16:08.32 | Raden | and i got fed up cause were busy as can be right now soo i usually just create a new accoiunt for user |
16:08.43 | deitarion | annma: Actually, my intent was to attempt to debug them myself since I'm starting to learn C and C++. |
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16:09.05 | annma | deitarion: hmm, this is hardly a beginner job! |
16:09.22 | annma | deitarion: if it's the CSS or HTML then you have to make a test case |
16:09.24 | Raden | PhilRod, where would i locate the file |
16:09.46 | PhilRod | deitarion: annma's probably right, but there are lots of good beginner jobs if you'd like to help KDE and improve your C++ skills |
16:10.04 | Raden | omg i have find on the computer |
16:10.10 | PhilRod | Raden: where I said :-) ('~' means 'your home directory') |
16:10.11 | Raden | <PROTECTED> |
16:10.51 | PhilRod | deitarion: an easy way to find them is to look on bugs.kde.org for "Junior jobs" (there's a link on the front page, IIRC) |
16:11.02 | Raden | PhilRod, forgive my incompetence its been 2 years since ive been in consolve and honestly im going to get used to using it again cause this grahpical crap is nice but when stuff goes south its a pain |
16:12.14 | DeadS0ul | =9 |
16:12.16 | DeadS0ul | =( |
16:12.41 | PhilRod | the console is your friend :-) |
16:13.15 | PhilRod | (seriously, it's well worth learning if a) you ever do sysadmin stuff, b) you ever do any kind of batch processing (say, a load of images) or text processing) |
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16:13.34 | devster | anyone alive who knows about the kweather plugin? |
16:14.01 | PhilRod | Raden: anyway, just run the following command in a console (where you're logged in as the user whose KDE isn't working): 'mv ~/.kde/share/config/kcmdisplayrc ~' |
16:14.05 | PhilRod | devster: just ask |
16:14.28 | PhilRod | Raden: then try logging in again |
16:14.33 | devster | well i want to know how to add an extra place to the available stations |
16:14.36 | PhilRod | and tell us whether it works or not |
16:14.50 | Raden | how do i remane a file |
16:14.59 | Raden | im in root found everythign |
16:15.11 | Raden | just cant rember commands or proper ways to use them for life of me |
16:16.08 | Raden | rename ./kcmdisplayrc ./kcmdisplayrc2 |
16:16.08 | Raden | <PROTECTED> |
16:16.12 | PhilRod | 'mv' is used to rename files (see example I gave above) |
16:16.23 | Raden | PhilRod, thanks : ) |
16:16.43 | Raden | there we go |
16:16.53 | Raden | brb try to login on diffrent tty2 |
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16:18.29 | csezol | i'd like to create system sounds, but i dont know any software to work with.. please help me. |
16:18.37 | Raden | still get kicked |
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16:20.06 | Raden | PhilRod, allthe config files for my user should be in that directory correct ? |
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16:20.12 | devster | how do you add a custom station to the kweather plugin? |
16:20.18 | PhilRod | Raden: indeed |
16:20.29 | PhilRod | if by "that directory" you mean ~ |
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16:21.22 | Raden | PhilRod, Office:/home/jon/.kde/share/config < that directory |
16:21.45 | PhilRod | all KDE settings are in there |
16:22.10 | agenteo | hi, I'm using kiosk to configure the users desktops. I would like to configure a common Startup screen... you know the one displayed while the desktop is loading? |
16:22.13 | csezol | please, a linux sound creator.. |
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16:22.59 | agenteo | I can configure it in the control center, but it's just for the current user... is there a way to set up a system one? |
16:23.09 | anabain | hi, I'm translating digiKam, and don't know what this sentence means: |
16:23.11 | PhilRod | csezol: best to ask in #yourdistro - I don't know of any KDE sound creation apps (but look on kde-apps.org) |
16:23.12 | anabain | This provides an universal asset for all scenics, especially suited for |
16:23.13 | anabain | portraits photographed against sky. |
16:23.25 | Raden | whats .gconfd ? |
16:23.39 | PhilRod | agenteo: see the user guide, section "KDE for administrators" |
16:23.41 | PhilRod | ~ug |
16:23.42 | apt | well, ug is http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/userguide/ |
16:23.59 | PhilRod | agenteo: you just put an appropriate config file with immutable entry in $KDEDIR/share/config |
16:24.07 | PhilRod | then it applies system-wide |
16:24.18 | PhilRod | and can't be changed by users |
16:24.25 | anabain | to be concret: what does "scenics" mean? and "against sky"? "portraits" is supposed to be photographs of people? |
16:24.29 | PhilRod | anyway, the userguide explains it better than I can :-) |
16:25.41 | PhilRod | anabain: my guesses: "scenics": pictures of natural scenes (lakes, trees, ...); "against sky": photos where the subject has the sky as the background. "portraits": yes |
16:25.42 | agenteo | PhilRod, you've been really helpful thank you very much ;-) |
16:25.42 | anabain | more general: it's good english? |
16:27.01 | jujimufu | DeadS0ul, /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
16:27.07 | jujimufu | wrong paste, sorry... |
16:27.08 | PhilRod | anabain: I wouldn't use "scenics" myself, but the others are good english |
16:27.14 | anabain | PhilRod: "scenics" is then the same as "landscape"? that's what I thought, but the problem is that landscape is also used in the following option in the menu, and I think then both terms don't refer to the same meaning... |
16:27.19 | jujimufu | how do I enable auto-mounting for USB flash disks and CD-Roms in KDE 3.4.2? |
16:27.23 | PhilRod | anabain: though they're kinda bizarre names to use |
16:27.44 | anabain | yes, I think so, and I'm not english-speaking, :) |
16:28.35 | PhilRod | anabain: ah, I see. "scenic" could be scenes that are pictures of individual people perhaps, then, but I think since neither of us can work it out, it isn't clear, and you should ask the author |
16:28.50 | PhilRod | anabain: or the kde-i18n-doc@kde.org mailing list |
16:28.55 | anabain | the sentence appears in a green filter option explanation |
16:28.56 | PhilRod | agenteo: you're welcome :-) |
16:29.01 | anabain | ok, PhilRod |
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16:29.14 | DeadS0ul | jujimufu, you use hotplug to automount it |
16:29.26 | dpy | hi guys |
16:30.11 | dpy | is there a way to place a window of an app at some position +x+y with kstart ? |
16:30.13 | jujimufu | DeadS0ul, I ran hotplug, but it does nothing. |
16:30.40 | DeadS0ul | insert your flash disk and then look at your syslog |
16:30.41 | dpy | or override the default window placement or something |
16:31.08 | csezol | please, a linux sound creator.. |
16:31.32 | Raden | is there anyway to reset a users graphical settings to default |
16:31.34 | DeadS0ul | dpy: right click that window's title bar and use 'configure window behavior' |
16:31.58 | DeadS0ul | Raden: graphical settings you mean their resolution? |
16:32.19 | DeadS0ul | csezol: rosegarden |
16:32.54 | dpy | DeadS0ul: yes, but I want to override that setting |
16:33.15 | anabain | csezol, what do you understand by linux sound creaator? |
16:34.06 | PhilRod | dpy: -geometry, I guess |
16:34.15 | DeadS0ul | dpy: not sure then |
16:34.21 | Raden | DeadS0ul, yes |
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16:34.57 | dpy | the problem is, kwin is overriding the application now |
16:35.31 | dpy | I want kwin to only use it's predefined geomtery for the window class when the application doesn't specify a location |
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16:39.34 | devster | does anyone know how to add a custom station to the kweather plugin? |
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16:42.03 | dpy | is there a way to resize a non-kde window with dcop ? |
16:42.06 | agenteo | PhilRod, I made it! |
16:42.31 | DeadS0ul | Raden: i cant' find anythign on it =( |
16:42.39 | PhilRod | agenteo: cool - did the user guide help? |
16:43.02 | agenteo | PhilRod, :-\ heeem no it was on another page |
16:43.13 | agenteo | PhilRod, http://www.ces.clemson.edu/linux/fc4_desktop.shtml#ksplash |
16:43.31 | agenteo | PhilRod, then I've copied the current user lines in to the system file |
16:44.16 | PhilRod | ok |
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16:47.45 | DeadS0ul | time for me to go to bed |
16:47.46 | DeadS0ul | 'gnite all |
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16:49.36 | pinotree | ~kde4-buzz |
16:49.37 | apt | KDE 4 is currently for developers only. See: http://www.canllaith.org/svn-features/kde4.html |
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16:53.28 | deitarion | PhilRod: Actually, I want my first project to be either to port the Smokey-Blue theme from GTK+ 2.x or write a "theme Qt using GTK+ 2.x" engine. I'm using GTK+ 2.x apps almost exclusively because I can't tolerate any of the existing Qt or GTK+ 1.x themes. |
16:54.10 | PhilRod | deitarion: heh, aiming high :-) |
16:54.47 | PhilRod | I imagine the latter would be difficult, though you could look at gtk-qt-engine or whatever it's called to get ideas |
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16:55.35 | deitarion | Well, I do prefer to artificially steepen the learning curve and I do understand many of the concepts of Object-Oriented Programming from my time working with Python and Java. |
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16:56.18 | deitarion | If I didn't aim high, I'd just lose interest and go find something Python-based to work on. |
16:56.39 | PhilRod | ah, if you're familiar with OOP, then C++ probably isn't too big a step. The Qt and KDE libraries are quite large though. The Qt tutorials are generally thought to be quite good |
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16:57.56 | deitarion | Actually, the biggest problem I had so far was understanding what the point of pointers was. Once I realized how primitive C was, it finally made sense. (I have yet to see a pointer function which can't be mimicked by Python in an equally easy but far safer manner) |
16:58.38 | thiago | refcounted wrapper works |
16:59.12 | deitarion | Yes, but refcounting is very prone to memory leaks. That's one of the big arguments people make when extending Python. |
16:59.26 | thiago | refcounting is prone to memory leaks, how? |
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16:59.56 | deitarion | One missed release function and you've got leaks who knows how many places. |
17:00.05 | stepz | circular refs |
17:00.19 | deitarion | Python uses a partial garbage collector to solve those. |
17:00.29 | thiago | stepz: that is true |
17:00.41 | agenteo | a KDE-n00b question in Gnome I was used to move in virtual screens with ctrl + alt right arrow / left arrow. is there such a shortcut in kde? |
17:00.53 | PhilRod | Ctrl+F<n> |
17:00.56 | PhilRod | or Ctrl+Tab |
17:01.07 | thiago | stepz: you have to make explicit ownership |
17:01.20 | thiago | owned object pointing to owner shouldn't increase its refcount |
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17:01.59 | agenteo | PhilRod, you're my KDE hero ;-) thanks again |
17:02.03 | deitarion | That reminds me, once I get a suitable Qt theme and Icon theme written, I'll have to try KDE as a desktop environment again. |
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17:02.49 | deitarion | I suppose you could say I'm very hard to please because I have the worst traits of both UNIX/Linux geeks and Mac addicts. |
17:03.12 | aseigo | what's a "suitable" theme for you? |
17:03.19 | PhilRod | deitarion: bad personal hygiene and a tendency to end sentences with "man"? |
17:03.22 | PhilRod | :-) |
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17:03.54 | Chambers` | Hey guys, I'm having a wierd thing happen when running "My Computer.Desktop" or "Network.desktop" Rather than opening the file manager and going to media:/ or smb:/ both open amaroK. Any ideas? |
17:04.15 | aseigo | Chambers`: not unless you describe what the wird thing is. |
17:04.24 | deitarion | Very picky about both the visual style and open-source easily-scripted programs. |
17:04.30 | thiago | aseigo: he has :-) |
17:04.37 | Chambers` | it's opening amaroK instead of My Computer or Network |
17:04.49 | thiago | Chambers`: it looks like the mime type association for inode/directory is messed up |
17:04.51 | aseigo | lol... nice. |
17:04.59 | aseigo | yes, it would likely be a mimetype screw up |
17:05.02 | thiago | check your Konqueror settings |
17:05.06 | thiago | anyways, bbl |
17:05.20 | Chambers` | thiago: lol, don't go..I don't know what to look for :P |
17:05.39 | Chambers` | home opens up fine |
17:05.43 | PhilRod | Chambers`: as thiago said, settings->configure konq -> file associations -> inode/directory (in the tree) |
17:05.46 | deitarion | aseigo: I can't stand glass-look icons, I can't stand solid-color windows, I have a very low tolerance for graidents, and I insist on subdued colors. |
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17:06.25 | Chambers` | ha, amaroK is listed as the first :P |
17:06.39 | PhilRod | food, bbl |
17:07.27 | aseigo | deitarion: there are a large number of icon themes out there. a few ship with KDE, more available on kde-look.org. what's a "solid color window"? you mean you like the pinstripe background of macOS, or....? |
17:08.04 | deitarion | aseigo: I like a subdued pinstrip without glossy buttons. Take a look at http://leary.csoft.net/~ssokolow/private/pics/sshot.png |
17:09.04 | aseigo | wow the tabs on that theme are fugly |
17:09.39 | deitarion | I also seem to be developing a dislike of rounded controls. |
17:09.40 | Chambers` | works now, thanks guys |
17:09.42 | aseigo | scrollbar is nice, but the gradient is different than the combo box. hum. what a wierd theme |
17:10.13 | deitarion | As for Firefox, ignore it as an example. I've been doing a lot of CSS hacking to squash things. |
17:10.22 | aseigo | ah |
17:11.02 | aseigo | anyways... there's a couple of Qt themes that do pinstripe backgrounds, but i doubt you'd like the rest of it since it's osX-ish (round glossy controls) |
17:11.15 | deitarion | Can't stand glossy controls. |
17:11.45 | aseigo | in fact, lipstick, with all the toolbar lines turned off, is just about perfecxt for me |
17:11.47 | deitarion | That's why a "Theme Qt using GTK+ 2.x" engine would be ideal. I already know how to hack my GTK+ 2.x themes by editing .gtkrc.mine |
17:11.56 | aseigo | a few subtle gradients but nothing pisses me off and not overly round |
17:11.57 | deitarion | Got a screenshot? |
17:12.35 | deitarion | I'm currently using the .NET imitator theme on Konqueror with the colors tweaked to come as close to matching my GTK+ theme as possible. |
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17:13.42 | aseigo | http://bdd.ca/~aseigo/desktop.png |
17:13.57 | deitarion | Not found. |
17:14.10 | aseigo | http://bddf.ca/~aseigo/desktop.png |
17:14.15 | aseigo | arg |
17:14.32 | pinotree | not found |
17:14.49 | deitarion | Now it's an apache server as opposed to IIS, but still error 404 |
17:14.51 | aseigo | hold on... sorry |
17:15.03 | aseigo | there |
17:15.53 | aseigo | the icons will not be to your taste, but then you could always use korilla or something like tat |
17:15.54 | aseigo | er, that |
17:16.15 | deitarion | That reminded me. Is there any way to specify different file associations for web and local files? I had to open Firefox because Konqueror is set to open images in GQView. |
17:16.28 | aseigo | lipstick is essentially plastik with a bunch of added options so you can tweak it (via teh GUI no less) |
17:16.45 | aseigo | deitarion: unfortunately not in kde3. =/ |
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17:17.03 | aseigo | deitarion: hopefully in 4 we'll make mimetypes data locality aware |
17:17.54 | deitarion | :) I recently got an extra 250GB so I shouldn't have too much trouble trying out KDE 4 in full. |
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17:18.42 | deitarion | Of course, being me (no desktop icons because they distract, much is done in an xterm+screen stack, etc.) I probably won't find the extra CPU consumption worth it. |
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17:19.31 | deitarion | As for your theme, I do have to admit that plastik-based themes are definitely a trademark of KDE in terms of their feel. |
17:19.42 | deitarion | They're incredibly numerous and popular. |
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17:20.26 | nsm | this is related more to kde 4.0 |
17:20.42 | nsm | could we have 'Koolest Desktop Ever' as a one liner slogan |
17:21.14 | deitarion | Of course, I've found that KDE-Look seems to be filled with two types of icon themes. (subjectively) Too many bright colors, and almost no colors. |
17:22.06 | deitarion | Also, KDE tends to work best with 32x32 icons (which is why I switched to it from WinXP when I was in my "I can't stand to waste screen space" phase) |
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17:23.11 | deitarion | GNOME tends to work best with 48x48 icons and comes with themes that use subdued colors (which is why I switched to it as my tolerance for bright colors waned) |
17:25.40 | deitarion | ...not that I think the available KDE themes are ugly. It's just that I find there's a difference between "That's a beautiful desktop that I don't mind looking at" and "I can work on that every day without losing my concentration". |
17:27.44 | deitarion | Oh, the earlier mention of mimetypes and file associations reminded me. I don't suppose there's any interest in doing Nautilus-style control of file associations (A tab in the preferences panel with a radio-button list) or in speeding up the time it takes to apply changes to the associations? |
17:27.59 | oGALAXYo | deitarion: i see it that way. i better work with a 'working desktop to get my work done' rather than 'working with a desktop that looks cool but is nothing more than a broken pile of junk'. |
17:28.06 | oGALAXYo | guess where my decision falls. |
17:28.38 | deitarion | oGALAXYo: My desktop works perfectly, of course, it's a custom-crafted mish-mash of KDE and GNOME components running on Xfce. |
17:30.19 | deitarion | I've been fiddling with computers since before I can remember and I'm a very fast learner, so KDE, GNOME, Xfce, and so on are roughly equal on that front. My decision was basically this... |
17:30.41 | oGALAXYo | no they are not equal on the front. |
17:30.57 | oGALAXYo | fiddling with computers is no justification to "understand" them |
17:31.55 | deitarion | Tell me that when you've been reading computer magazines since age 5 and had practice self-educating by being home-schooled. |
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17:32.20 | deitarion | My reasoning has been this: |
17:32.57 | deitarion | 1) I lost patience with the KDE themes and didn't know enough to rectify the problem, GNOME proved to be just as easy to work with (from my perspective), so I moved. |
17:33.30 | oGALAXYo | deitarion: i am into computer business for over 25 years now. i started development of 8bit machines in asm languges and was first on the front with bulleting board systems, scene, demos, cracking, warez the times back. so please dont give me lessons about that. and i bet there are enough people in this channel besides us both who do even longer. but then you are still wrong KDE, GNOME and XFCE are not the same and are not the same way up. |
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17:33.54 | oGALAXYo | they are not even technological up to the same or similar (or closely same) area. |
17:34.34 | deitarion | I never said they were and I wasn't implying that you were in any way inferior. I'm simply saying that I learn quickly and found KDE, GNOME, and Xfce to be equally comfortable outside of the complaints I explicitly stated. |
17:36.13 | Skrotto | oGALAXYo: which groups (demoscene) have you been involved in? |
17:36.23 | oGALAXYo | mostly amiga ones. |
17:36.41 | deitarion | Besides, the reason I dumped GNOME for Xfce more recently was because it felt leaner than either KDE or GNOME and no other reason. I would have gone with Openbox but I was too lazy to twist it into a shape which fit my needs. |
17:36.46 | Skrotto | Ever heard of ephidrena or spaceballs? |
17:36.51 | oGALAXYo | yes |
17:37.10 | Skrotto | Cool :) |
17:37.12 | oGALAXYo | spaceballs was quite legendary. |
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17:37.29 | oGALAXYo | ephidrena was after my time (left amiga 1996 or so). |
17:37.45 | Skrotto | ah |
17:38.26 | oGALAXYo | i was in groups like amaze, lsd, shining 8, dytec, mystic etc. |
17:38.36 | Skrotto | Just asking since I met coders from both groups on a pub the other day. hehe |
17:38.43 | oGALAXYo | but the list was quite long. |
17:38.48 | oGALAXYo | heh cool |
17:39.05 | deitarion | Oh, one little question. Where does KDE store the location of the Trash folder and how do I re-create it if it turns out that I accidentally deleted it? |
17:40.03 | deitarion | ...because I know I accidentally deleted it back when I was on Mandrake and I had no backup of the dotfile which made it's icon change as expected. |
17:40.04 | firephoto | deitarion: it's in ~/.local/share/ |
17:40.06 | oGALAXYo | you learn fast.. go figure :) |
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17:41.22 | deitarion | More like I wasn't thinking. "locate Trash" reveals it as .Trash which makes sense. I've got enough dotfiles in my home dir to fill the grand canyon so it would be easy to miss it. |
17:41.43 | deitarion | clarification: ~/.Trash |
17:42.13 | firephoto | that's not kde's trash unless you moved it (or the distro did) |
17:42.35 | Skrotto | I've got mine in ~/.local/share/Trash/ also |
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17:43.30 | deitarion | Weird. ~/.local/share/Trash does exist and is distinct from ~/.Trash, but files which I know I deleted with Konqueror were in ~/.Trash |
17:43.42 | deitarion | Must be a Gentoo thing. |
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17:44.40 | fidel_ | hi |
17:44.47 | Raden | whats server goes KDE use ? |
17:44.48 | fidel_ | got a problem with kopete |
17:45.11 | fidel_ | i only see parts of my contacts, even if they are online. |
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17:45.48 | PhilRod | fidel_: also ask in #kopete |
17:45.48 | fidel_ | about 80 % of my contact are shown 100% offline , but they arent hehe |
17:45.56 | fidel_ | oh, thx |
17:45.58 | PhilRod | Raden: ?! |
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17:46.59 | deitarion | Hmm, does KDE have a Totem-like media player these days? (No skins, minimal interface, controls not a separate window) |
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17:47.39 | deitarion | I just use Gentoo split ebuilds to pull in Konqueror, FileLight, KShisen, and a few others so I wouldn't know. |
17:47.50 | oGALAXYo | you learn fast.. go figure :) |
17:47.55 | oGALAXYo | apps-kde.org |
17:48.02 | oGALAXYo | kaffeine or kmplayer |
17:48.28 | oGALAXYo | http://kaffeine.sourceforge.net/ |
17:48.37 | oGALAXYo | and. totem sucks. |
17:48.48 | oGALAXYo | it never ever worked one time correctly for me, always crashes and freezes. |
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17:49.08 | deitarion | It used to do that for me so I used Xine. It seems to have those kinks worked out now. |
17:49.18 | oGALAXYo | no it doesnt |
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17:50.37 | deitarion | Hmm. I wonder why it's working for me then. (apps have this annoying habit of just working when someone asks me to come look at a problem) |
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17:51.14 | deitarion | ...and I'm not kidding. It's become a subject of humor among my family that computers are "intimidated by my presense". |
17:51.52 | catomann | hi all! |
17:51.58 | oGALAXYo | there is only one - ONE - single gnome app that i do like.. |
17:52.01 | oGALAXYo | its called glabels. |
17:52.08 | oGALAXYo | i havent found anything like it for kde. |
17:52.28 | deitarion | I just got that recently. I've been meaning to use it to whip up some business cards. |
17:52.30 | catomann | anyone up for lending a ear and help me out? |
17:52.41 | oGALAXYo | <PROTECTED> |
17:52.45 | oGALAXYo | helps you out :) |
17:52.51 | catomann | yeah yeah |
17:52.53 | deitarion | catomann: Just ask your question; Don't ask to ask. |
17:52.56 | PhilRod | deitarion: for minimal media player see "codeine" |
17:54.10 | catomann | i bought this new printer, brother mfc210c and connected it to my comp with suse 93, then i went 64bit with hardware and suse 10 and cannot get to use the printer anymor, though i followed the same procedure as last time.. |
17:54.31 | catomann | with cupswrapper and lpr |
17:54.40 | PhilRod | probably best to ask in #suse or #cups (if you're using cups) |
17:54.52 | catomann | ok, thanks a bunch :) |
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17:56.35 | deitarion | Nice. As soon as I can hack up a theme I like, I'll definitely give those three a try. |
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17:59.58 | anabain | Philrod, in "New Collection Name", what is new, the name ot he collection? :) |
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18:01.03 | anabain | PhilRod, in "New Collection Name", what is new, the name ot he collection? :) |
18:01.10 | anabain | ot/or |
18:01.13 | tek | how can I config behaviour for one single konqueror window? |
18:01.35 | PhilRod | anabain: could be either |
18:01.43 | anabain | ??? |
18:01.47 | anabain | XDDD |
18:01.54 | PhilRod | either the collection is new, or the name is new |
18:02.04 | anabain | ok... |
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18:02.13 | PhilRod | I would guess that the collection is new, since otherwise it would be "rename" |
18:02.30 | anabain | yes, I think you're right |
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18:07.10 | mgorbach228 | anyone using 3.5 with portage? |
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18:14.51 | jamesots | Hi - I just installed some SUSE updates on my machine including qt 3.3.5, and now I've lost all except the basic five KDE widget styles. Where does KDE look to find what styles are available? |
18:15.29 | benJIman | jamesots: several people have mentioned this with the supplementary update to 3.4.3 |
18:15.42 | benJIman | jamesots: the 3.5 packages certainly arn't affected |
18:16.37 | jamesots | benjiman: I've had KDE 3.4.3 on for a while, but qt 3.3.5 seemed to break it. |
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18:18.58 | Raden | what file does KDE pull info for from graphics for each uyser ? |
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18:20.42 | ponto | Raden: What do you mean? |
18:21.30 | Raden | I cant login cause my gpahics config is messed up for 1 user somehow |
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18:22.08 | jamesots | Ok, so downgrading to qt-3.3.4 fixed it. |
18:23.24 | PhilRod | Raden: try logging into a different window manager as that user. Does it work? |
18:23.55 | Raden | nope |
18:23.59 | Raden | window maker dont work either |
18:24.12 | Raden | and its just that 1 user |
18:24.32 | ponto | Raden: When you try kde. Does the login screen reappear after some seconds? |
18:25.08 | PhilRod | oh, if another WM doesn't work, then it's not a KDE problem. Ask in #yourdistro |
18:25.23 | Raden | normall yess if i switch sessions login it kicks back to previous session like right now im logged in under a diffrent user, if i switch users i login it goes black for 4 seconds return to user i switched sessions from |
18:25.39 | Raden | if there is no other active sessions goes back to graphical login after blakc screen |
18:25.44 | Raden | black screen |
18:25.49 | ponto | Raden: is there something strange in .xsession-errors of that user? |
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18:26.26 | Raden | where would that be located ? |
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18:26.42 | woodefec | hello |
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18:27.07 | woodefec | i installed the suse upgrade to kde 3.5 rc1 and it... works!!!!!!!! |
18:27.11 | woodefec | hoorayt |
18:27.18 | ponto | Raden: in the home directory of that user |
18:28.20 | woodefec | now one annoyance: where to get rid of those popups, showing up even when the mouse crosses the panel (really redundadnt for me and get on my nerves) |
18:28.38 | Raden | ponto, getting there |
18:29.48 | Raden | ponto, nothing in .xsession-errors |
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18:30.36 | Raden | im ready to just wipe it al and start over this is nutz |
18:31.17 | PhilRod | woodefec: control center -> desktop -> panel -> something -> icon mouse over effects |
18:31.20 | PhilRod | or something like that |
18:32.41 | agenteo | PhilRod, today I've finished my KDEiing good bye |
18:33.58 | woodefec | PhilRod : thx, guess need restart X to make it |
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18:36.38 | woodefec | is there sthing wrong with the release candidate at all? how do i make it bug me? |
18:37.37 | woodefec | i want to see the crash |
18:38.13 | woodefec | i've trained it through so far and the way i use it its going perfect |
18:38.24 | woodefec | where's the catch? |
18:38.28 | woodefec | common |
18:39.21 | annma | hmmm |
18:39.30 | annma | did you start with a new user? |
18:39.31 | manulite | Quick question, i can't seem to find where you set a background image in Konqueror File Browsing, does anyone know? |
18:39.58 | woodefec | annma : no, i upgraded from kde 3.4.3 and started with old user |
18:40.09 | annma | woodefec: a good thing for test is a new user |
18:40.22 | annma | manulite: View menu -> configure background |
18:40.22 | woodefec | is this the reason for my "problem"? |
18:40.32 | annma | what is your problem? |
18:40.37 | annma | I just came back |
18:40.43 | woodefec | that there is no problem ;) |
18:40.53 | woodefec | and its RC |
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18:41.00 | woodefec | so i want a problem, |
18:41.01 | annma | there are problems |
18:41.05 | woodefec | where? |
18:41.11 | annma | the one I knew were fixed |
18:41.19 | woodefec | :) |
18:41.26 | woodefec | good job ! |
18:41.39 | manulite | annma: great, thanks, was busy looking in all the wrong places ;) |
18:41.39 | annma | I am sure you can report some typos and outdated docs |
18:41.50 | woodefec | thank you for that, its really shiny |
18:41.56 | annma | cool |
18:42.19 | woodefec | oh, that is obvious, i have docs for 3.4 i think for some parts of it |
18:42.26 | woodefec | but who cares? |
18:42.29 | mgorbach228 | konqueror still has tons of problems |
18:42.39 | annma | tons, well, dont' exagerate |
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18:42.56 | annma | it has less problems than IE considering |
18:43.04 | annma | no spyware installation |
18:43.17 | annma | behind your back |
18:43.19 | woodefec | lol |
18:43.23 | woodefec | haahah |
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18:43.31 | woodefec | maybe there is spyware |
18:43.33 | annma | my son PC is a nightmare |
18:43.33 | woodefec | who knows |
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18:43.42 | woodefec | ;) |
18:43.51 | annma | nothig compared to windows |
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18:44.04 | annma | out of 3 machines, 2 are not working properly here |
18:44.33 | Julianyus | hi |
18:44.42 | annma | ok, I'm gone for a while |
18:45.38 | frb | how can I change the default size of a konq window? |
18:46.02 | frb | every time I start I have to resize it back to 1024 from some silly default of 600 or something |
18:46.44 | bssteph | frb: save the profile |
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18:59.41 | ratgeb | hi |
18:59.54 | ratgeb | i have a question about kde packages |
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19:00.03 | ratgeb | in debian |
19:00.15 | ratgeb | in what package is k3b? |
19:00.28 | Mousey | apt-get -t sid install k3b |
19:00.38 | ratgeb | debian doesn't have k3b package |
19:00.52 | ratgeb | i use debian testing |
19:01.00 | Mousey | not all three? |
19:01.37 | ratgeb | and there aren't k3b package |
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19:01.47 | Mousey | uh |
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19:02.06 | Mousey | it's in debian man |
19:02.11 | Mousey | you don't have enough sources listed |
19:02.30 | ratgeb | i try three sources |
19:02.46 | ratgeb | ftp.de.debian.org |
19:02.49 | ratgeb | ftp.fr.debian.org |
19:02.52 | Mousey | wait |
19:02.54 | ratgeb | ftp.debian.org |
19:02.57 | Mousey | those aren't sources, those are mirrors |
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19:03.21 | ratgeb | mirrors |
19:03.27 | Mousey | sources stable[main,contrib,non-free], testing[main,contrib,non-free],unstable[main,contrib,non-free] |
19:03.40 | ratgeb | testing |
19:03.45 | ratgeb | I use |
19:03.52 | Mousey | it's in unstable/main |
19:03.54 | Mousey | well that's why |
19:04.00 | Mousey | you SHOULD HAVE all three |
19:04.31 | Mousey | stable has the most packages, testing doesn't have as many as stable but they're more up to date, and unstable doesn't have as many as testing, but they're really really up to date |
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19:07.01 | Mousey | he leaves! |
19:07.01 | Mousey | grr |
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19:07.58 | Julianyus | anyone knows if it is possible to have kuickshow without gtk 1.2? |
19:08.31 | oGALAXYo | Julianyus: use gwenview |
19:08.38 | KomiaPoika | build it with gtk2 |
19:08.45 | KomiaPoika | yeah, gwenview is the shit |
19:10.00 | Julianyus | when i try to build imlib 1.9 it tells that want gtk 1.2 (Gentoo) |
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19:29.48 | aikie | how do I make a kde program that hasn't got a main window and isn't a kicker applet in kdevelop? |
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19:34.38 | sredna | Create a window that is not a KMainWindow and set that as the application mainwindow |
19:34.41 | sredna | I think |
19:34.58 | sredna | I'd have thought that kdevelop had a template for a dialog app |
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19:38.36 | anabain | PhilRod, in "Add camera provided date and time", who is the provider, the camera? |
19:39.14 | sredna | anabain: Sorry for answering, but I know: It's taken from the EXIF data in the picture ;) |
19:40.27 | anabain | you mean then that is "the camera" (actually, EXIF specification) that provides the info, ok? |
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19:40.41 | anabain | (I'm translating digiKam), sredna |
19:40.58 | sredna | anabain: Well, the camera stores the data in the image when it's taken |
19:41.22 | sredna | It's still in the image after it's imported |
19:41.45 | anabain | and then it's copied to the pc |
19:42.12 | anabain | Then the sentece asks for getting this info from the camera |
19:42.21 | anabain | sentece/sentence |
19:43.14 | sredna | Yes |
19:43.28 | sredna | I know, I use digikam myself :-) |
19:43.34 | anabain | that is, from the EXIF data that every image in the camera has |
19:43.38 | anabain | ok, thanks |
19:43.40 | aikie | I don't need any window it should only show one widget |
19:43.46 | aikie | or is that impossible? |
19:43.59 | sredna | aikie: Well, you can't display a widget without a window |
19:44.15 | sredna | It may not have a window frame, but it's still a window |
19:44.24 | dmitri | does anyone know what i have to edit to be able to see loadig processes during a start up? |
19:45.05 | aikie | I want to display such osd thing as amarok has, but I don't like seeing a new window just with nothing in it |
19:46.21 | sredna | aikie: Afaik OSD is achieved by using a window with transperant background, and then painting the text on that |
19:46.30 | sredna | Could be a QLabel |
19:46.49 | aikie | so I can make that osd thing the main window? |
19:46.50 | sredna | With the widgetflags set so that it has no decoration |
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19:48.32 | mae | <PROTECTED> |
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19:51.40 | linuxgangster | anyone here interested in seeing Linuxgangster.org's latest mascot backgrounds? We just finished a Female Linux Penguin |
19:52.37 | linuxgangster | hehe |
19:52.42 | canllaith | I hope not. |
19:52.55 | canllaith | That would border on the scariness of furry pr0n *shudder* |
19:53.14 | linuxgangster | lol |
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19:53.24 | linuxgangster | she is wearing revealing clothes ;) |
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19:55.21 | sredna | Evenin' canllaith :) |
19:55.49 | _marcin | jest tam ktoś??????????? |
19:55.52 | sredna | Or morning |
19:55.59 | wizard123 | jest, a co? |
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19:56.07 | wizard123 | :P |
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19:57.03 | thac | hi i have a problem building the svn kdepim-3.5 |
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19:58.04 | thac | his is the command causing this: ../../kode/kxml_compiler/kxml_compiler --custom-parser /home/tobbe/BUILD/kdepim-3.5.0/kresourses/featureplan/kde-features.rng |
19:58.31 | thac | and it breaks with: lt-xml_compiler: symbol lookup error: lt-xml_compiler: undefined symbol: _ZN4K0DE8FunctionC1... |
19:58.47 | Mousey | hehe |
19:58.50 | Mousey | penguin lips |
19:58.59 | _marcin | mówi tu ktoś po polsku????? |
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19:59.13 | wizard123 | ja, ale to anglojezyczny kanal. |
19:59.29 | _marcin | a jak znaleść polskojęzyczny????? |
19:59.40 | sredna | Please |
19:59.44 | linuxgangster | you like the pic mousey? |
19:59.52 | Mousey | its funny |
19:59.57 | linuxgangster | mousey: did you check out the other backgrounds? |
20:00.24 | Mousey | i will |
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20:00.44 | linuxgangster | mousey: excellent, there are some pretty good ones in there |
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20:02.38 | hein | sredna: 80 votes already for the bug .. |
20:02.48 | sredna | :) |
20:03.30 | hein | sredna: I wonder if there's a chance to get it into a 3.5.x release (the simple version - just saving the state accross empty sessions) |
20:03.51 | sredna | hein: None, we have a feature freeze |
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20:04.15 | sredna | hein: I can't change it for any release untill 4.0 |
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20:04.22 | hein | sredna: Would that be a feature, though? Sounds like a bugfix to me ;) |
20:04.23 | bwegh | is there a way to change the color of events in KOrganizer? |
20:04.45 | sredna | hein: Uhm, maybe so. Maybe in a bugfix release |
20:04.56 | sredna | bwegh: Try the configure dialog ;) |
20:05.11 | hein | sredna: yup - that's why I said 3.5.x, to indicate point-level releases beyond 3.5 :) |
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20:05.21 | sredna | Sure :) |
20:05.39 | hein | Who knows, maybe I'll even whip up a patch ... I wonder if it's still possible to write something that applies cleanly against 3.5 and trunk |
20:05.45 | bwegh | sredna: well, i found that one, but i mean eg a diffrent color for each category |
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20:06.38 | bwegh | sredna: forget it ... who has eyes should use them ;) |
20:06.43 | blackvd | have a prob with my res on my login screen its set too high,how can I change it? |
20:06.45 | sredna | hein: In some areas, config handling is probably not too bad |
20:07.09 | hein | good good |
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20:08.23 | sredna | bwegh: Since a long time, the korganizer config dialog contains a 'colors' module that lets you set colors pr category |
20:10.27 | linuxgangster | if anyone else is interested in the new backgrounds we did go to http://linuxgangster.org/modules.php?name=Downloads&file=viewcategory&cid=1 , leave comments if you like |
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20:25.40 | vaxo | hi |
20:25.58 | vaxo | how can i do an autosort of desktop icons at kde startup? |
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20:31.08 | rrichie | hi all |
20:32.05 | rrichie | i'm got some problem to connect to my X server with kdm using xdmcp. Under my client, it only display a blank X window and nothing happen |
20:32.10 | rrichie | can anyone help me? |
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20:56.07 | sam^ | hi |
20:56.14 | yt173 | hello |
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20:56.58 | yt173 | has anyone here had problems running kile? |
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20:57.42 | elvirolo | hi |
20:57.45 | yt173 | hi |
20:57.48 | elvirolo | does kde 3.5 rely on autofs ? |
20:58.06 | yt173 | don't know |
20:58.15 | yt173 | i've been trying to ask questions too |
20:58.21 | elvirolo | :-/ |
20:58.22 | yt173 | but we may be the only live ones here |
20:58.31 | yt173 | sorry |
20:58.33 | elvirolo | we probably are |
20:58.42 | elvirolo | np :) |
20:58.48 | yt173 | let me ask you then :) |
20:58.54 | elvirolo | please do |
20:58.55 | yt173 | have you ever run kile? |
20:59.00 | elvirolo | yes |
20:59.09 | yt173 | have you ever had strange crashes? |
20:59.19 | yt173 | in the middle of editing a formula, say |
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20:59.26 | yt173 | I can't track this |
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20:59.31 | yt173 | no clue |
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20:59.31 | elvirolo | no, but then i haven't used it much |
20:59.39 | yt173 | neither have I |
20:59.39 | elvirolo | what's your distro? |
20:59.44 | yt173 | ubuntu |
20:59.52 | elvirolo | breezy ? |
20:59.54 | PhilRod | elvirolo: I've never heard of autofs, and kde 3.5 runs fine here, so I assume the answer is no :-) |
20:59.56 | yt173 | yep |
21:00.03 | elvirolo | PhilRod: ok thanks :-D |
21:00.10 | elvirolo | hum |
21:00.25 | elvirolo | i'm running sid here, so i can't really tell |
21:00.30 | yt173 | ok |
21:00.35 | yt173 | was worth a try :) |
21:00.36 | elvirolo | you should go over to #kubuntu and ask |
21:00.44 | elvirolo | or maybe #kubuntu-devel |
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21:00.52 | yt173 | true |
21:01.04 | yt173 | I'll open another win there |
21:01.37 | straw | yt173: first thing to try is reproducing the crash |
21:02.26 | yt173 | that's easy |
21:02.34 | yt173 | at will |
21:03.06 | yt173 | I'm writing a paper |
21:03.14 | yt173 | and every time I edit it now |
21:03.16 | yt173 | it crashes |
21:03.23 | yt173 | I've had to revert to emacs |
21:03.50 | straw | that sucks |
21:03.59 | yt173 | yeah |
21:04.07 | yt173 | not that emacs isn't good |
21:04.16 | yt173 | but kile is better for this |
21:04.19 | yt173 | so I'd like to use it |
21:04.27 | straw | kile is part of..? |
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21:04.54 | yt173 | kile is a latex editor for kde |
21:05.42 | straw | it's from koffice, or is it stand alone app? |
21:05.54 | yt173 | stand alone, I think |
21:05.57 | yt173 | hard to say |
21:06.04 | yt173 | I installed it separately in ubuntu |
21:06.07 | yt173 | which is gnome based |
21:06.21 | yt173 | though I've followed everyone's howtos |
21:06.49 | straw | ah, it's in extragear |
21:07.11 | yt173 | ok |
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21:11.21 | PhilRod | yt173: you could try moving the kile config files. Perhaps it's a problem with them |
21:11.35 | yt173 | ok |
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21:11.39 | yt173 | can't do it now |
21:11.41 | PhilRod | they'll be ~/.kde/share/config/kilerc and ~/.kde/share/apps/kile |
21:11.49 | yt173 | that's in the office machine |
21:11.55 | yt173 | but I'll do it |
21:12.00 | yt173 | I certainly haven't tried that |
21:12.32 | yt173 | I was just wondering if this is a freakish bug |
21:12.51 | straw | do you have the document handy? |
21:12.54 | yt173 | if nobody else has seen it, there's probably a glitch somewhere |
21:13.07 | yt173 | no |
21:13.19 | yt173 | the file is out of reach |
21:13.20 | PhilRod | could be. If it's reproducible, you can paste the backtrace into a bug report that you submit at bugs.kde.org |
21:13.47 | yt173 | this is going to be painful if it is |
21:14.04 | yt173 | I'm not sure the co-authors would like to publish a paper to a bug report :) |
21:14.13 | straw | oh, darn. yt173, i was going to try to get a backtrace for you |
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21:14.36 | yt173 | yeah |
21:14.48 | yt173 | I haven't had time to try tofind the kernel of the problem |
21:14.59 | yt173 | I know it is reproducible in the paper |
21:15.03 | yt173 | but I had no time to play |
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21:15.21 | yt173 | I tried obvious htings |
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21:15.30 | yt173 | are there packages missing, |
21:15.38 | yt173 | are the main files where they should be |
21:15.45 | yt173 | but it didn't occur to check config |
21:15.56 | yt173 | thanks for the help anyway |
21:16.02 | yt173 | I appreciate it |
21:16.50 | yt173 | see you guys out there |
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21:22.53 | tchino | kde not start automatical by debian |
21:23.34 | Julianyus | hi |
21:23.38 | tchino | hy |
21:23.47 | tchino | quit |
21:23.52 | tchino | exit |
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21:25.41 | frb | does anyone ever take webcore and diff it against khtml? |
21:25.49 | canllaith | It would be a huge diff. |
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21:26.51 | frb | I thought the big diff would be in KWQ, and that the KHTML diffs might be useufl |
21:28.09 | annma | useful for? |
21:28.17 | oGALAXYo | frb: the problem is that the khtml developers dont want to touch the webcore stuff because webcore contains a lot of "hacks" and "workarounds" of things. |
21:28.31 | frb | well, I see complaints that "Apple took KHTML and didn't return it to the community" |
21:28.34 | oGALAXYo | frb: but then khtml2 is in the works in kdenonbeta for quite some time now. |
21:28.59 | frb | but if it's all LGPL, that can't be true |
21:30.23 | oGALAXYo | you probably only saw the title but havent read the real context written by zack rusin. |
21:30.27 | annma | frb: where do you see complaints? |
21:30.44 | frb | just random places when I do web searches |
21:30.58 | annma | well you can find anything on the web and its contrary |
21:31.11 | oGALAXYo | frb: it was not about "returning" it was about throwing huge leaps of 4mb patches out without feedback. and yes i do understand the khtml developers somehow. |
21:31.13 | annma | thetruth is that the diff were difficult to implement |
21:31.17 | hydrogen | you can find anything in the library also :) |
21:31.19 | straw | wasn't there some complaining, the apple did some code drops |
21:31.20 | annma | and had to be tested |
21:31.26 | straw | then, even |
21:31.38 | oGALAXYo | 4mb tarball diffs are anything else than helpful. |
21:31.41 | straw | and more complaining |
21:32.09 | frb | k, I'll just ignore those people and inflict the wrath of something evil on the ones that argue |
21:32.17 | straw | then some bits went in... heck i can't recall |
21:32.24 | Mousey | anyone know if Konversation will work over SOCKS proxy? |
21:32.31 | Mousey | i'd like to retire xchatg |
21:32.32 | Mousey | -g |
21:33.02 | frb | Mousey: socks 4 or socks 5? |
21:33.07 | Mousey | either |
21:33.25 | PhilRod | Mousey: I think there might be a #konversation channel where they'll know |
21:33.33 | Mousey | nice |
21:33.35 | annma | frb: however you can join the khtml team! |
21:33.39 | frb | Mousey: kde itself has socks proxy support |
21:33.55 | frb | Mousey: control-center -> Internet -> Proxy |
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21:34.10 | Mousey | frb: there's no SOCKS entry, just http, ftp, etc |
21:34.19 | frb | SOCKS is a separate tab |
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21:34.43 | Mousey | yes, that's it, and points to a library |
21:34.54 | Mousey | but i can't tell it to use localhost:12345 |
21:34.56 | Mousey | for example |
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21:36.57 | Mousey | it does in gnome, but there are too many disadvantages to using gnome. =( |
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21:38.18 | frb | I've never actually used a socks proxy |
21:38.24 | Mousey | not even ssh? |
21:38.26 | Mousey | it's handy |
21:38.35 | Mousey | changed how i do everything on the net |
21:40.51 | frb | nope, I just assume everything is insecure, and then act accordingly |
21:41.38 | annma | oh, never meet me then I am insucurity in person |
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21:41.50 | Mousey | ssh -D 12345 your.house.computer, then set your application [mozilla, xchat, psi, whatever] to use proxy localhost:12345 to make connections, then all connections and traffic those programs generate are tunneled thru to your.house.computer before going to the net |
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21:46.47 | bakfupai | Is this where you go if you want to report a bug/get support? |
21:47.02 | annma | support: yes |
21:47.05 | annma | bug: no |
21:47.12 | annma | bug is at bugs.kde.org |
21:47.42 | bakfupai | Okay, I'm not sure if it's a bug so lets start here. |
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21:48.10 | bakfupai | I get an error when compiling k3b 0.12.2. |
21:48.19 | annma | what kdelibs version? |
21:48.39 | bakfupai | 3.4.2 |
21:48.56 | annma | where did you get your k3b? |
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21:49.46 | bakfupai | I'm using sourcemage (don't know if you've heard about it) so it's the latest stable version in the packet system. |
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21:50.19 | bakfupai | /usr/bin/meinproc --check --cache index.cache.bz2 ./index.docbook |
21:50.19 | bakfupai | /bin/sh: line 1: 19092 Segmenteringsfel /usr/bin/meinproc --check --cache |
21:50.47 | hydrogen | segfault would that be? |
21:50.54 | bakfupai | Yes |
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21:51.15 | annma | is it the first thing you compile? |
21:51.23 | hydrogen | try running the command manually |
21:51.28 | hydrogen | it may be a problem with meinproc |
21:51.33 | hydrogen | try just running /usr/bin/meinproc |
21:51.43 | annma | i.e did meinproc work before? |
21:52.22 | bakfupai | annma, no, it's not the first thing I compile. |
21:52.33 | bakfupai | Entire distro is source-based. |
21:52.47 | bakfupai | just running meinproc doesn't give me segfault- |
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21:52.49 | bakfupai | *. |
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21:53.27 | hydrogen | hmm |
21:53.44 | annma | so your package k3b is bad |
21:53.53 | annma | maybe not fitted for that kdelibs version |
21:53.57 | annma | ask sourcemage |
21:53.59 | hydrogen | sounds like its a distro fault |
21:54.02 | annma | yes |
21:54.12 | aikie_ | where can I find what classes I can use in KDE apps |
21:54.25 | annma | kde API online doc |
21:54.31 | annma | developer.kde.org aikie_ |
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21:54.54 | aikie_ | thanks |
21:55.00 | bakfupai | I've googled it and seen tons of people complain about the problem. |
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21:56.06 | bakfupai | Maybe they're using exactly my distro, but it doesn't seem all that likely. |
21:57.05 | annma | yes? |
21:57.20 | annma | bakfupai: such a link which is not sourcemage please? |
22:01.07 | bakfupai | http://kdenews.org/1036463135/1036615343/ |
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22:02.15 | annma | bakfupai: hm, nothing more recent??? |
22:02.21 | annma | thisis very old! |
22:03.02 | bakfupai | http://www.google.se/search?hs=4CW&hl=sv&client=firefox&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aunofficial&q=%22%2Fusr%2Fbin%2Fmeinproc+--check+--cache+index.cache.bz2+.%2Findex.docbook%22+%22segmentation+fault%22&btnG=S%C3%B6k&meta= |
22:03.12 | annma | bakfupai: simpler |
22:03.21 | annma | go to k3b website |
22:03.26 | annma | look at the version number |
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22:03.52 | annma | from what I see, k3b 0.12.3 is for kde 3.2 |
22:04.06 | annma | 0.12.7 I mean |
22:04.41 | annma | so your k3b might be too old for such a meinproc version |
22:04.46 | aikie_ | can anyone help me with this little kde app, it should display an osd thing like in amarok but it isn't working corectly: http://pieterv.free.fr/testosd.tar.bz2 |
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22:06.08 | aikie_ | it only shows the osd (int middle top) for on blimp |
22:06.14 | aikie_ | and then its done |
22:06.43 | bakfupai | annma, maybe. so you think maybe I should install the latest version from k3b.org? |
22:06.51 | annma | aikie_: where idd you get that app? |
22:06.59 | annma | bakfupai: ask your distro |
22:07.14 | annma | bakfupai: I compile from kde sources and I never got any meinproc segfault |
22:07.28 | bakfupai | They don't have the problems. |
22:07.32 | annma | bakfupai: you have only 1 kde version on your system? |
22:07.45 | bakfupai | No duplicates, no. |
22:07.55 | annma | ? |
22:08.20 | bakfupai | Or what do you mean? |
22:08.26 | aikie_ | mad it partially myself |
22:08.30 | annma | no duplicates? |
22:08.49 | annma | aikie_: you expect people to install it to fix it/ |
22:09.00 | bakfupai | I don't have kdelibs in two different places if that's what you mean. |
22:09.05 | annma | bakfupai: do you have several kde sersions on your system is my question |
22:09.22 | aikie_ | yes because I have like almost zero experience with kde qt and C++ |
22:09.37 | annma | meinproc --version |
22:09.42 | annma | paste output bakfupai |
22:09.57 | annma | aikie_: ask in #amarok maybe then |
22:10.06 | bakfupai | annma, root@paul:/usr/src/k3b-0.12.2# meinproc --version |
22:10.06 | bakfupai | Qt: 3.3.4 |
22:10.06 | bakfupai | KDE: 3.4.2 |
22:10.06 | bakfupai | XML-Translator: $Revision: 389330 $ |
22:10.18 | annma | root? |
22:10.39 | bakfupai | what? |
22:10.52 | annma | <PROTECTED> |
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22:11.06 | annma | sourcemage tells you to make as root? |
22:11.28 | bakfupai | Nope. Just happened to have su'd on that term. |
22:11.58 | annma | as your user then redo it |
22:12.07 | annma | and do make as your user, not as root |
22:13.10 | annma | there are very few recent posts on sourcemage website |
22:14.24 | bakfupai | bakfupai@paul:/usr/src/k3b-0.12.2$ make |
22:14.24 | bakfupai | make all-recursive |
22:14.24 | bakfupai | make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/k3b-0.12.2' |
22:14.24 | bakfupai | Making all in doc |
22:14.24 | bakfupai | make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/k3b-0.12.2/doc' |
22:14.25 | bakfupai | /usr/bin/meinproc --check --cache index.cache.bz2 ./index.docbook |
22:14.27 | bakfupai | *** glibc detected *** double free or corruption (!prev): 0x083937d0 *** |
22:14.29 | bakfupai | /bin/sh: line 1: 19653 Avbruten (SIGABRT) /usr/bin/meinproc --check --cache |
22:14.32 | bakfupai | <PROTECTED> |
22:14.34 | bakfupai | make[2]: *** [index.cache.bz2] Fel 134 |
22:14.38 | bakfupai | make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/k3b-0.12.2/doc' |
22:14.40 | bakfupai | make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Fel 1 |
22:14.42 | bakfupai | make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/k3b-0.12.2' |
22:14.44 | bakfupai | make: *** [all] Fel 2 |
22:14.46 | bakfupai | New fault... |
22:14.48 | annma | stop that |
22:15.03 | Tm_T | hi annma &co o/ |
22:15.05 | annma | why do you paste all that? |
22:15.12 | annma | next time you'll be kicked |
22:15.19 | bakfupai | I'm sorry. |
22:15.24 | annma | there pastebin for stuff like that |
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22:15.38 | r0bnyc|kanotix | Hello |
22:15.46 | r0bnyc|kanotix | how do i remove some karamba themes? |
22:15.49 | annma | ask your distro for support |
22:15.55 | annma | bakfupai: ^^ |
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22:16.46 | abel | hola |
22:17.27 | abel | hay alguien ahí ? |
22:17.43 | annma | english only here please |
22:17.49 | abel | ah ok |
22:17.54 | annma | :) |
22:18.05 | abel | it's my first time |
22:18.53 | annma | ok, you can ask any kde question |
22:19.10 | abel | thanks |
22:19.20 | abel | i'm trying to configure korn |
22:19.57 | abel | but it is not possible to verify my yahoo mail |
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22:21.27 | bakfupai | annma, i'm not here to make trouble if that's what you think. i just want some help and since noone in my channel have had the same problem as me this was the only way to go. |
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22:21.52 | bakfupai | if you're absolutely sure it's distro-related i will go and ask around some more... |
22:21.56 | annma | well if meinproc works elsewhere then your k3b ackage is bad |
22:22.06 | annma | or ill fitted |
22:22.11 | annma | use make -k |
22:22.25 | annma | to bypass the error, you won't have the k3b handbook |
22:22.44 | annma | probably you might have other errors as well though |
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22:23.00 | annma | so pipe the make output I a file to look at it |
22:23.06 | annma | so pipe the make output in a file to look at it |
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22:46.31 | rrichie | hi all |
22:47.02 | rrichie | is it possible to connect to a distant existing X session (without having to log in) ? |
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23:00.58 | _alessandro | ciao a tutti |
23:01.18 | _alessandro | c'è qualche italiano? |
23:01.29 | pinotree | _alessandro: only enlish here, please |
23:01.42 | _alessandro | ok excuse me |
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23:22.00 | anabain | <p> tags are the text showed in response to "what's this?" feature? |
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23:31.23 | TD-Linux | hello... how do I remove a screensaver from KDE? |
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23:32.10 | TD-Linux | what directory does kde reside in? |
23:33.35 | hydrogen | `kde config --prefix` |
23:35.01 | TD-Linux | what directory do I execute that in? |
23:35.38 | MrPingouin | anywhere |
23:35.51 | TD-Linux | my FC3 system can't find 'kde' |
23:36.37 | frb | TD-Linux: kde-config |
23:36.41 | frb | hydrogen made a typo |
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23:37.56 | hydrogen | err |
23:37.57 | hydrogen | I did? |
23:38.03 | hydrogen | oh |
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23:38.05 | hydrogen | ya I did |
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23:45.37 | straw | ctrl-m |
23:46.02 | CHodapp | thanks |
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23:52.38 | kicken | I would have figured type matching based on file name extension would have been one of the easier things to do and get working correctly. |
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