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| 00:09.25 | bouma | hey guys the gentoo +kdefinal flag speeds up kde builds doesnt it, is there anything i need to know about it before i enable it ?? i've got 512meg ram |
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| 00:11.13 | DirkGently | bouma: if I remember correctly, kdefinal means it doesn't compile debug code, so this will speed up the build and the runtime |
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| 00:20.34 | quentin_ | i know the new kde is really good, but i do not want to have sound problems as reported on some boards |
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| 00:34.41 | pinotree | litb: ther'es an option in the preferences |
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| 00:50.21 | grepper | brosio: r-click ->add applet->show desktop |
| 00:50.39 | kaymee_laptop | hello all does anyone no how to setup users accounts for netgo? |
| 00:51.02 | brosio | r-click on desktop ? |
| 00:51.12 | brosio | or on panel menu |
| 00:51.13 | brosio | ? |
| 00:51.57 | brosio | found thx |
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| 00:59.02 | BigKahuna | Got a couple of question about KDM. First - can you config KDM to play a start-up sound during the splash sequence? |
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| 01:00.39 | BigKahuna | I know you specify startup sounds when KDE starts, but I want to start playing the sound a little earlier. |
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| 01:01.16 | Zxcvb | will kde be removing the french i18n stuff, or at least renaming it so it is for quebec not france? |
| 01:02.16 | pinotree | Zxcvb: ? |
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| 01:03.01 | Zxcvb | pinotree: two things, DADVSI and extradition |
| 01:03.04 | marcusU | Something isn't working right with Kile in recent versions. The editor is not right. |
| 01:03.23 | pinotree | BigKahuna: when you see the slpash screen, kdm is already "gone", the control is gone to the kde start init functions |
| 01:03.41 | marcusU | And the Edit menu does not have Kate-editor type menu options sometimes. |
| 01:03.57 | pinotree | Zxcvb: kde is not-political |
| 01:04.13 | BigKahuna | pinotree, any ideas how I can hack a sound into the splash screen sequence then? |
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| 01:04.42 | pinotree | BigKahuna: don't know if you can do it with config files, i guess yoi should write a patch for it |
| 01:04.49 | Zxcvb | pinotree: KDE will be illegal in France |
| 01:05.00 | pinotree | why? |
| 01:05.11 | Zxcvb | pinotree: having french localization could be considered targeting france and could provide grounds for extradition |
| 01:05.27 | Zxcvb | pinotree: no way to have effective mandatory DRM on the multimedia and networking components |
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| 01:05.49 | Zxcvb | pinotree: http://www.fsffrance.org/news/article2005-11-25.en.html |
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| 01:06.11 | Zxcvb | pinotree: do you know what extraterritorial application of laws refers to? |
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| 01:06.38 | Zxcvb | pinotree: by not removing the localization it can be argued that the laws of france apply because KDE is targeting french citizens |
| 01:06.50 | Arafangion | I've been compiling KDE 3.4 for two days. |
| 01:07.02 | marcusU | France just needs to get over themselves. It's not 1750, and the would doesn't resolve around it anymore. |
| 01:07.06 | pinotree | Zxcvb: a french localization targets imho french _speakers_ |
| 01:07.10 | Arafangion | It seems that the 'base' and many programs have been compiled, and damn, Konqueror's *nice*! |
| 01:07.15 | marcusU | Arafangion: It can take a while. What's wrong? |
| 01:07.24 | Arafangion | marcusU: I chose to do 'everything' :) |
| 01:07.34 | Zxcvb | marcusU: combine France's law with extradition treaties that don't require dual criminality |
| 01:07.38 | mic_day9 | which of the 16 packages get me khelpcenter that will build app index? |
| 01:07.46 | Arafangion | marcusU: But Konqueror and the other programs indicate that KDE 3.4 is *much* better. Not just a point-release :) |
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| 01:08.34 | marcusU | Arafangion: Are you using --enable-final? If you have a fair amount of memory, that will speed things up a lot. |
| 01:09.29 | Arafangion | marcusU: No, but it already seems faster. |
| 01:09.33 | Arafangion | marcusU: I have 512MB |
| 01:09.37 | Zxcvb | pinotree: true, but when the French government tries to extradite a German or British KDE developer I wouldn't want to risk that argument in court |
| 01:09.59 | Arafangion | marcusU: How does --enable-faster achieve this gain? |
| 01:10.22 | pinotree | Zxcvb: why a french translation should be illegal? |
| 01:10.52 | mic_day9 | gentoo - 3.4.1 - x86: which of the 16 packages get me khelpcenter that will build app index? |
| 01:10.54 | pinotree | where is the french liberté? |
| 01:10.57 | marcusU | ignore Zxcvb |
| 01:11.00 | Zxcvb | pinetree: no idea |
| 01:11.00 | marcusU | Oops. |
| 01:11.31 | pinotree | Zxcvb: then, please, find the reason why a volunteer work is illigal and then talk again |
| 01:11.38 | pinotree | iilegal* |
| 01:11.43 | Zxcvb | pinetree: read up on how someone in another country can be extradited for publishing something on the internet that is illegal in France or Germany |
| 01:11.59 | Arafangion | pinotree: The French have some wierd laws. |
| 01:12.11 | pinotree | bah |
| 01:12.15 | Zxcvb | pinotree: the reason is an amendment to the French EUCD implementation that is more or less the CBDTPA |
| 01:12.20 | marcusU | Arafangion: Suppose that the C++ files to be built are file1.cpp, file2.cpp, ... file_n.cpp. The normal sequence is to compile each file in the sequence to object files, and then to link at the end. |
| 01:12.59 | Arafangion | marcusU: So --enable-final merely optimizes the compile stage, and doesn't impact the *run* stage? |
| 01:13.11 | marcusU | Arafangion: Using --enable-final essentially creates big_file.cpp with #include "file1.cpp", #include "file2.cpp", etc. So all the C++ files are throw at the compiler at once. |
| 01:13.16 | pinotree | Arafangion: exactly |
| 01:13.45 | mic_day9 | is there kde-dev on freenode? |
| 01:13.53 | pinotree | mic_day9: #kde-devel |
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| 01:14.06 | marcusU | Arafangion: In theory, the compiler might be able to do some additional optimization because it has access all the sources files at once, but I don't know if GCC really makes any use of it. |
| 01:14.28 | mic_day9 | oh, well then maybe cuz i'm not using 3.5 is why |
| 01:14.31 | pinotree | marcusU: even the precompiled headers should help |
| 01:15.01 | mic_day9 | i'm considered off-topic |
| 01:15.04 | marcusU | The --enable-final probably helps a lot, too, because the headers only have to be processed once. |
| 01:15.16 | marcusU | mic_day9: What's the question? |
| 01:15.41 | Arafangion | marcusU: Then again, just precompiling headers is a common method. |
| 01:15.50 | mic_day9 | which of the 16 packages get me khelpcenter that will build app index? |
| 01:16.07 | marcusU | khelpcenter itself will be in kdebase |
| 01:16.09 | Arafangion | Oh, I'm compiling 3.5, not 3.4 |
| 01:17.31 | mic_day9 | gentoo 2.6 - kde 3.4.1 - x86: you know khelpcenter didn't work for me in fc4 either |
| 01:17.32 | Arafangion | It's nice that the apple patches were finally able to be incorporated back into Konq :) |
| 01:18.07 | mic_day9 | all i wanted it to do was build an index and display doc for installed apps |
| 01:18.14 | Arafangion | mic_day9: Works for me, both in 3.4 and now 3.5 |
| 01:18.56 | mic_day9 | araf: can u post ur specs |
| 01:19.11 | Arafangion | mic_day9: I can do better. |
| 01:19.23 | Arafangion | mic_day9: I can post the programs I've installed. |
| 01:20.18 | mic_day9 | araf: well more is better |
| 01:20.37 | Arafangion | mic_day9: I'll rafb it. |
| 01:20.59 | Arafangion | Interesting, Konq's very, very unreliable. It often errors out with "cannot talk to klauncher" or similar. |
| 01:21.41 | Arafangion | mic_day9: This is *everything* |
| 01:21.43 | Arafangion | http://rafb.net/paste/results/aFRfNE28.html |
| 01:22.16 | mic_day9 | araf: kk, thanks dude |
| 01:22.16 | Arafangion | mic_day9: Except kde is version 3.5, not 3.4 |
| 01:22.47 | Arafangion | mic_day9: And 'source' was also a mistake, it being run from a directory inside the package named 'source'. |
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| 01:23.55 | Arafangion | khelpcenter's a damn nice man frontend! |
| 01:25.20 | mic_day9 | oh well |
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| 01:27.40 | Arafangion | DCOPClient::attachInternal. Attach failed Could not open network socket |
| 01:27.46 | Arafangion | Why am I getting so many of those? |
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| 01:27.52 | Arafangion | This is with Konq. |
| 01:33.08 | kaymee_laptop | hello all does anyone no how to get access to all users for netgo? |
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| 01:33.58 | bouma | DirkGently: thanks debugging is something i would disable |
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| 01:34.49 | lawrencc | How do I close a tab w/ a middle click in Konqueror? |
| 01:35.56 | Arafangion | lawrencc: I *open* tags with a middle click. |
| 01:36.16 | Arafangion | lawrencc: UI/wise, I don't think a middle-click should close anything. |
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| 01:43.08 | marcusU | Anyone remember the voodoo needed to get k3b to compile on AMD64? |
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| 01:47.18 | Arafangion | Why the heck am I getting: |
| 01:47.19 | Arafangion | DCOPClient::attachInternal. Attach failed Could not open network socket |
| 01:47.25 | Arafangion | I am running Konqueror from Fluxbox. |
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| 01:51.11 | Arafangion | And I'm getting tons of these now: |
| 01:51.12 | Arafangion | konqueror: ERROR: : couldn't create slave : Cannot talk to klauncher |
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| 01:57.12 | snugglemonkey | canllaith: ping? |
| 02:01.13 | marcusU | Looks like k3b is just broken for Suse. |
| 02:02.39 | marcusU | I also noticed that kdmlib requires a patch for Suse. |
| 02:02.44 | marcusU | in KDE 3.5 release. |
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| 02:04.07 | marcusU | thiago: You were correct, and I was wrong about your kdmlib libXau thing patch. I was using the 3.5 branch and not the tagged 3.5 release version. It still does not compile on Suse without modifications. |
| 02:07.17 | DirkGently | marcusU: what's wrong with k3b? |
| 02:07.27 | marcusU | DirkGently: It won't compile. |
| 02:07.43 | DirkGently | it compiled for me |
| 02:07.43 | Ze_M | it builds fine |
| 02:08.01 | marcusU | It does not work me. I see other people having problems, too. |
| 02:08.02 | DirkGently | opensuse 10.0 |
| 02:08.26 | Ze_M | marcusU: other people? |
| 02:08.37 | marcusU | Ze_M: Yes. |
| 02:08.52 | marcusU | See Google results for search: k3b __le64 |
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| 02:08.57 | Ze_M | u must specify |
| 02:09.06 | Ze_M | and for x64 |
| 02:09.06 | marcusU | Huh? |
| 02:09.18 | DirkGently | ahh.. I'm on x86 |
| 02:09.18 | Ze_M | not just like that |
| 02:09.36 | Ze_M | x86 still is in most cases a hard task to build |
| 02:09.36 | poningru | I had a question, why is there no make kde run faster group, like there is a make kde look good group |
| 02:09.38 | marcusU | I do not understand what you are asying, Ze_M |
| 02:10.05 | marcusU | The first error is /usr/include/linux/byteorder/little_endian.h:43: error: syntax error before "__cpu_to_le64p" |
| 02:10.06 | Columcile | poningru: who cares if it runs faster? I just want it to look good. ;) |
| 02:10.15 | Ze_M | poningru: no make kde run group? |
| 02:10.40 | marcusU | With the real problem appearing to be /usr/include/linux/byteorder/little_endian.h:45: error: `__le64' undeclared (first use in this function) |
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| 02:10.48 | Cenuij | poningru: but its not slow... |
| 02:10.52 | litb | there is a security hole in kde |
| 02:11.06 | Ze_M | poningru: u can still build with unsermake+pch |
| 02:11.10 | marcusU | When I searched for the problem, people seemed to be suggesting patching the kernel headers. |
| 02:11.11 | litb | to be particular: in config dialogs |
| 02:11.14 | poningru | ok lets say smaller then |
| 02:11.35 | Ze_M | faster or smaller? |
| 02:11.41 | poningru | cause I cant run it on this 128 mb laptop without killing someone |
| 02:11.55 | poningru | gnome isnt better either |
| 02:12.05 | Cenuij | fluxbox... |
| 02:12.09 | Ze_M | so u can use other window managers than dont use much memory |
| 02:12.13 | poningru | yeah thats what I am using |
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| 02:12.16 | Ze_M | fluxbox, exactly |
| 02:12.28 | poningru | Ze_M: yeah but I like kde |
| 02:12.46 | poningru | even though I have many comps running gnome, kde, and flux |
| 02:12.48 | Ze_M | if u want kde u must have a machine capable to handle those graphics and such |
| 02:13.19 | poningru | right but thats what I am saying I am sure if extra effort is put in kde can be made to run faster on such and newer computers |
| 02:13.28 | Ze_M | i also love kde but if i go to a oentium3 with 256mb i must be mind prepared... |
| 02:13.29 | Cenuij | i guess both gnome and kde pay a resoruce penalty for using tollkits |
| 02:13.34 | Cenuij | toolkits* |
| 02:13.46 | litb | if one set a password in a config-dialog, another one opens the config-dialog. the another one can change the last char of the password field and see if the "OK" button enables. if it enables, the char wasn't the char of the password. if it remains disabled, then the "another one" knows: he has cracked the last character of the pasword. he can do so for every char in the password and crack it in a very fast time |
| 02:14.26 | poningru | yeah I am not saying that it should be lightning fast on 128mb but it should be better than winxp |
| 02:14.41 | marcusU | Someone using 2.6.9 kernel suggested moving backward to the 2.6.8.1 headers. I'm using 2.6.11 |
| 02:14.46 | DirkGently | litb: please raise a bug report, if you haven't already |
| 02:15.01 | Ze_M | winxp haves its ouwn kernel, not a separate one like in linux |
| 02:15.08 | poningru | Ze_M: so? |
| 02:15.18 | Ze_M | windowxp have an integrated kernel, so it can runs faster in some tasks |
| 02:15.45 | Ze_M | but in time linux will be much better in all fields comparing to windowzzz |
| 02:16.03 | Ze_M | remember that the one being largelly build was windowzzz |
| 02:16.19 | Ze_M | and yet linux has passed windowzzz in many many fields |
| 02:16.26 | poningru | and that wont happen unless there are large teams dedicated to all those things |
| 02:16.31 | DirkGently | win xp doesn't run very fast in 128MB either |
| 02:16.32 | Ze_M | u cant compare just kde with linux |
| 02:16.36 | Ze_M | kde isnt a distro |
| 02:16.45 | poningru | Ze_M: I realize that |
| 02:16.51 | Ze_M | pointwood: so? |
| 02:17.08 | poningru | DirkGently: I have to say its certainly faster than kde and gnome |
| 02:17.09 | Ze_M | kde is a window manager super |
| 02:17.17 | poningru | whats super? |
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| 02:17.28 | Ze_M | a very skilled window manager |
| 02:17.35 | poningru | k ... |
| 02:17.42 | litb | KDE IS SLOW BECAUSE x, NOT BECAUSE kde ITSELF |
| 02:17.50 | litb | oups, sorry :) |
| 02:17.58 | Ze_M | litb: thats what im saying... |
| 02:17.59 | ^j^ | Someone knows how to configure KSystemLog on Gentoo? |
| 02:18.21 | Ze_M | ^j^: ur nick is very hard to enter, pelase change |
| 02:18.38 | Cenuij | hrhrhrhr |
| 02:18.41 | poningru | litb: I have to disagree, why arent xfce or flux so 'fast' then? |
| 02:18.49 | poningru | err slow* |
| 02:18.55 | Arafangion | Ze_M: At least there's several ways of entering it ;) |
| 02:18.59 | Ze_M | fluxbox isnt a window manager |
| 02:19.07 | Arafangion | |
| 02:19.10 | DirkGently | Ze_M: ? ^Tab gets it |
| 02:19.14 | Ze_M | poningru: please read about it before come here saying nonsenses |
| 02:19.26 | litb | because they use X, they are ways to slow |
| 02:19.27 | Ze_M | yet is har to enter ^ |
| 02:19.28 | Arafangion | Ze_M: fluxbox *is* a windoe manager. |
| 02:19.36 | Ze_M | Arafangion: is not! |
| 02:19.37 | canllaith | snugglemonkey: pong? |
| 02:19.42 | ^j^ | Ze_M: Well I have been using it for a long time, and you are the second person who complains, sorry pal, but I'll stick to my nick |
| 02:19.46 | Ze_M | go to fluxbox and read it |
| 02:19.48 | Arafangion | Ze_M: How so? |
| 02:19.53 | poningru | um fluxbox is a wm |
| 02:20.00 | poningru | wtf |
| 02:20.04 | Ze_M | if u say ur ignorant |
| 02:20.12 | DirkGently | Ze_M: not Shift-6 on your keyboard? |
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| 02:20.15 | Arafangion | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:20.16 | Arafangion | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:20.19 | Ze_M | only says that who doesnt know |
| 02:20.23 | Arafangion | Straight from teh fluxbox.org site |
| 02:20.36 | Ze_M | fluxbox isnt a window manager |
| 02:20.36 | Columcile | What is FluxBox |
| 02:20.38 | Columcile | Fluxbox Fluxbox © is yet another windowmanager for X. |
| 02:20.40 | poningru | Ze_M: dude perhaps you should read up on this stuff? |
| 02:20.41 | Columcile | http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net/ |
| 02:20.53 | litb | fluxbox is a DE |
| 02:20.55 | Columcile | ;) |
| 02:20.59 | Arafangion | litb: No, it isn't. |
| 02:21.04 | Ze_M | fluxbox is a file |
| 02:21.04 | Columcile | fluxbox = windows manager says the fluxbox website |
| 02:21.08 | Ze_M | not a WM |
| 02:21.27 | poningru | ok lets analyze this whats the job of a WM? |
| 02:21.31 | Ze_M | Arafangion: only says that who is ignorant, im not gg to reply you again |
| 02:21.43 | Arafangion | poningru: Troll. |
| 02:21.54 | poningru | me? |
| 02:21.56 | Columcile | Ze_M: the fluxbox website says that fluxbox is a windows manager |
| 02:21.57 | litb | but fluxbox has a panel and desktop-menu |
| 02:21.58 | Arafangion | poningru: No, not you. |
| 02:22.03 | poningru | oh hehe |
| 02:22.11 | Ze_M | Columcile: so what? please read their docs |
| 02:22.22 | Columcile | Ze_M: ...the website is part of their docs |
| 02:22.38 | poningru | ok lets not get into this argument I didnt come here to start this |
| 02:22.41 | Ze_M | im not gg to argue on this, this is too much newbie stuff |
| 02:22.48 | Columcile | hehehe |
| 02:23.09 | litb | hm, nevertheless. if KDE4 will run on windows natively we will see if it's faster there |
| 02:23.22 | Arafangion | litb: Unlikely. |
| 02:23.25 | marcusU | This is what I don't understand. This error is in the forked version of dvd+rw-tools. |
| 02:23.35 | Arafangion | litb: Unless it can be put partly into kernel space. |
| 02:23.47 | marcusU | That is in k3b's repository, but the standalone version of dvd+rw-tools compiles fine. |
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| 02:25.34 | Arafangion | litb: Windows achieves it's speed by putting the wm into kernel space. |
| 02:25.54 | Arafangion | litb: Making it faster than linux+x11 (At least, in win95 and win98) |
| 02:26.11 | Arafangion | litb: But it did it at a very high price - stability. |
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| 02:26.55 | Arafangion | litb: Though, Longhorn is apparently putting the graphics driver into user-space, so it could be interesting. |
| 02:27.02 | Arafangion | (At least partially) |
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| 02:27.10 | litb | sometimes my X crashes the kernel too |
| 02:27.22 | gregday | Longhorn/Vista will also have something called the "Restart Manager" |
| 02:27.27 | litb | blocking the keybord |
| 02:27.42 | gregday | I want to find the person at Microsoft responsible for adding "manager" to everything and urinate into his brainpan |
| 02:27.47 | Arafangion | litb: Likely it's not X, but the kernel driver you used. |
| 02:27.47 | gregday | but it's either that, or "My Restarts" |
| 02:28.10 | Arafangion | litb: ie, you use ATI graphics kernel modules? |
| 02:28.30 | _poison | for windows you _need_ a manager to manage your restarts ... =P |
| 02:28.37 | Arafangion | _poison: Seconded. |
| 02:28.47 | litb | i heard that X by-passes the kernel, so if X runs in a error, it can block the machine |
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| 02:29.00 | Arafangion | litb: Not strictly true. |
| 02:29.00 | litb | no, nvidia |
| 02:29.43 | Arafangion | litb: 3D accel stuff (afaik) does quite a few hacks, but in general when it crashes, the rest of the OS is running fine. Means nothing to the deskto puser, though ;) |
| 02:29.54 | litb | there is a new x-server (i think kdrive) which don't by-passes linux. |
| 02:30.59 | Arafangion | litb: Then, I guess it doesn't have 3D accel support and other nasty hacks. |
| 02:31.09 | litb | you're right |
| 02:31.24 | Arafangion | litb: It also doesn't appear to use many graphics drivers at all. |
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| 02:33.37 | litb | but if X ran as a ordinary user it wouldn't crash my machine |
| 02:33.40 | _poison | did somebody manage to compile kdevelop 3.3 on slackware 10.2 ? I alwas end up with the following: http://pastebin.com/447894 |
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| 02:35.03 | Arafangion | litb: what I've been trying to say is that it has to interact directly with the graphics drivers. |
| 02:35.23 | Arafangion | litb: framebuffer programs have the same problem. |
| 02:35.43 | Arafangion | litb: However, X11 runs in userspace. |
| 02:37.13 | litb | yes |
| 02:37.40 | litb | X is very mature. why don't integrate it into a desktop-kernel? |
| 02:38.28 | _poison | X already is a kernel .... |
| 02:38.28 | _poison | an OS running inside an OS ... |
| 02:38.55 | Arafangion | litb: Because X11 doesn't belong in the kernel. I would agree that the drivers that it uses do belong in the kernel, though. |
| 02:39.02 | Arafangion | _poison: You have a peculiar not-incorrect abstract mannar of speaking :) |
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| 02:39.26 | _poison | Arafangion: huh ? *g* |
| 02:41.43 | litb | i think the major slowdown is the fact that X communicates over the network stack of localhost |
| 02:42.13 | _poison | I don't think that is so much of a performance penalty ... |
| 02:42.24 | _poison | probably the most slowdown is caused by the drivers ... |
| 02:43.01 | _poison | or better the hw manufacturers not giving enough information to myke them fly ... |
| 02:43.11 | _poison | s/myke/make/ |
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| 02:47.50 | Arafangion | litb: That communication is surprisingly efficient, and is X11's biggest advantage. |
| 02:48.25 | Arafangion | litb: I use that feature all the time. However, a major slowdown is the round-trip-time, something that NX is working on. |
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| 03:08.11 | Baron | hello |
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| 03:36.48 | snugglemonkey | canllaith: ping^2 |
| 03:37.37 | snugglemonkey | I was out plowing snow, missed you last time you pinged back. Need some "input" on a job opportunity. |
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| 03:46.13 | HuntsMan | should the media:/ HAL Backend work with HAL 5.5.1 ? |
| 03:46.52 | HuntsMan | in 3.5 |
| 03:54.47 | snugglemonkey | bouma: do you have a second? |
| 03:54.57 | snugglemonkey | perhaps for a pm. |
| 03:55.29 | snugglemonkey | I'm looking for a "stable" person to ask a few programming / mysql questions of. |
| 03:56.06 | bouma | i know alittle sql but i dont know MYsql.. just got created my first database |
| 03:57.35 | snugglemonkey | ah, ok. :) |
| 03:58.10 | snugglemonkey | bouma: I have a big job coming up, that needs some mysql expertise. I know you've been around the # for a while, and I thought I would just check. |
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| 03:58.33 | snugglemonkey | perhaps you aren't he person I'm looking for then. It'll take some experience to pull it off, I think. |
| 03:59.23 | bouma | how large a database are you talking |
| 03:59.30 | bouma | do you know what optimal normal form is? |
| 03:59.45 | bouma | have you ever learnt databasing formally? |
| 03:59.50 | bouma | even in highschool |
| 03:59.57 | bouma | (where i learnt sql) |
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| 04:00.30 | Oleg_ | Wow! |
| 04:00.55 | snugglemonkey | bouma: I suppose the "size" of the database isn't the important factor. It is the interelationships that seem to be the challenging point in this particular situation. :) |
| 04:01.05 | bouma | integrity constraints? |
| 04:01.06 | snugglemonkey | bouma: I have _no_ training in database stuff. |
| 04:01.07 | Oleg_ | for the first time, in many years I opened ksirc and now it seems to be as good as xchat! |
| 04:01.18 | bouma | or the actual table design |
| 04:01.23 | snugglemonkey | Oleg_: try konversation. ;) |
| 04:01.32 | Oleg_ | it's even better? |
| 04:01.36 | bouma | well draw a schema on paper first |
| 04:01.54 | snugglemonkey | bouma: I think that there will have to be some heavy duty changes to the database to get it so that it is searchable and useable. |
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| 04:02.14 | bouma | why is that.. searching is a SELECT away |
| 04:02.15 | snugglemonkey | Oleg_: konverastion is tons better, in my opinion. |
| 04:02.22 | bouma | but making an interface is another issue |
| 04:02.31 | Oleg_ | ok |
| 04:02.33 | snugglemonkey | bouma: the interface is the easy part for me. :) |
| 04:03.20 | snugglemonkey | bouma: I had someone lined up to do it, but they backed out at the last minute. |
| 04:03.27 | Dhraakellian | has konvi come out of its development slowdown yet? |
| 04:03.44 | snugglemonkey | bouma: I will look into the project further to understand what can be done, and what is already done. |
| 04:03.51 | snugglemonkey | bouma: thanks for the encouragement though. :) |
| 04:04.33 | DeadS0ul | Oleg_: konversation rocks!! |
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| 04:05.16 | Dhraakellian | last time I checked, Konvi was getting ready to give xchat a run for its money |
| 04:05.24 | Dhraakellian | but wasn't quite there yet for me |
| 04:06.00 | DeadS0ul | when was the last time you checked? |
| 04:06.10 | DeadS0ul | only thing that bugs me bout konversation now is the tab bar.. |
| 04:06.20 | DeadS0ul | can't manage a large number of channels |
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| 04:06.36 | hagabaka | yeah, me too |
| 04:07.18 | hagabaka | but it can't handle even a moderate amount of channels |
| 04:07.28 | Dhraakellian | I seem to remember liking kvirc's channel treeview |
| 04:07.31 | hagabaka | just about 9 here |
| 04:07.48 | Dhraakellian | although I think it might have tried to force alphabetization on me, which I don't like |
| 04:07.48 | hagabaka | X-Chat has a treeview too now |
| 04:07.53 | Dhraakellian | it does? |
| 04:07.57 | snugglemonkey | hagabaka: ah. I dunno how many I have open, but if I full screen it, I am sure I can probably get about 15 open. |
| 04:08.00 | Dhraakellian | hmm |
| 04:08.08 | Dhraakellian | hagabaka: evidence of this? |
| 04:08.11 | hagabaka | X-Chat Gnome always has, and X-Chat 2.6 has it too |
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| 04:08.21 | hagabaka | heh |
| 04:08.25 | hagabaka | just use it? |
| 04:08.34 | Dhraakellian | I'm sorely tempted |
| 04:08.45 | hagabaka | snugglemonkey: you have a larger screen than mine probably |
| 04:08.54 | snugglemonkey | ah, perhaps. |
| 04:09.26 | Dhraakellian | ah, the wonders of having multi-word passphrases |
| 04:10.01 | hagabaka | ? |
| 04:10.14 | Dhraakellian | I nearly typed my root password into the chan |
| 04:10.27 | hagabaka | oh |
| 04:10.30 | Dhraakellian | but I realized which window had focus before I got past the second word |
| 04:10.50 | hagabaka | i stopped using X-Chat since GTK-Qt has problems with it though |
| 04:11.03 | Dhraakellian | I haven't had problems with it |
| 04:11.03 | Dhraakellian | yet |
| 04:11.12 | Dhraakellian | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:11.18 | hagabaka | maybe only in the treeview |
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| 04:11.38 | hagabaka | with GTK-Qt, the channel labels don't change color when there's activity |
| 04:11.46 | Dhraakellian | and azureus 2.3.0.6 hasn't even crashed on me yet with it |
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| 04:11.54 | Dhraakellian | hmm |
| 04:12.00 | Dhraakellian | I'm not having any trouble with it |
| 04:12.13 | Dhraakellian | but I'm using xchat 2.4.4 with a normal vertical tabbar |
| 04:13.35 | DeadS0ul | meh |
| 04:13.43 | DeadS0ul | don't make me use xchat damn you |
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| 04:18.48 | DeadS0ul | dammit, kde 3.5 is still not in debian unstable /cry |
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| 04:19.07 | Dhraakellian | http://xchat.org/files/screenshots/xchat-260-winxp-tree.png |
| 04:19.10 | Dhraakellian | woah... |
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| 04:33.19 | DeadS0ul | Dhraakellian: you have a windows xp theme? |
| 04:34.01 | Dhraakellian | no |
| 04:34.16 | Dhraakellian | but the screenshot there was taken on an XP box |
| 04:35.16 | Arafangion | I cannot get KDE 3.5 to run :( |
| 04:35.24 | Arafangion | The splash screen comes up, then quits |
| 04:35.36 | Arafangion | The error I get is: ICE default IO error handler doing an exit(), pid = 28469, errno = 0 |
| 04:36.08 | Arafangion | (Though, there's a huge amount of output) |
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| 04:37.24 | DeadS0ul | Dhraakellian: ah |
| 04:37.28 | Arafangion | It appears to die at the "Initializing system services" |
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| 04:45.13 | atrain | Help: kde 3.5 evil: Makes right click menus white on black (and some normal menu's too) |
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| 05:14.47 | Wal | I have suse 10.0 with KDE 3.5, and the Baghira theme no longer shows as an option in themes/styles. Any ideas? |
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| 05:24.25 | nicholasw | Hi! |
| 05:24.49 | DeadS0ul | heya |
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| 05:31.34 | DeadS0ul` | god dammit |
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| 05:34.40 | nicholasw | SHUT UP, DeadS0ul' |
| 05:34.53 | nicholasw | Jeeze, Could you possibly be anymore anoying? |
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| 05:35.44 | ratero | The Spanish language lives |
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| 05:38.42 | DeadS0ul` | heh |
| 05:38.52 | DeadS0ul` | thanx canllaith |
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| 05:39.16 | nicholas-w | Jeez, canllaith is annoying. |
| 05:39.34 | nicholas-w | i g2g |
| 05:39.37 | nicholas-w | later guys! |
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| 05:46.27 | nicholas-w | Who else hates canllaith? |
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| 05:47.29 | ratero | The Spanish language lives! |
| 05:47.41 | nicholas-w | What? |
| 05:48.53 | DeadS0ul` | why are you trying to start trouble in here? |
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| 05:49.10 | nicholas-w | Who? |
| 05:50.24 | canllaith | bleh |
| 05:50.46 | nicholas-w | bleh? |
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| 05:50.53 | canllaith | DeadS0ul`: is that correct? |
| 05:51.07 | DeadS0ul` | me neither =\ |
| 05:51.21 | DeadS0ul` | seems fine though |
| 05:51.28 | canllaith | Oh well we'll find out if he talks I guess. |
| 05:51.36 | DeadS0ul` | =D |
| 05:51.50 | DeadS0ul` | I'm can't wait to try kopete's webcam feature =\ |
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| 05:53.46 | nicholas-ww | I'm getting really annoyed! |
| 05:54.59 | nicholas-ww | Who else is annoyed? |
| 05:57.38 | nicholas-ww | Jeeeeeeeze. |
| 05:59.21 | DeadS0ul` | hey canalith, modify it to i=ian@*.san-francisco-14rh15rt.ca.dial-access.att.net |
| 05:59.37 | hagabaka | can I get a different embedded text editor in konqueror than the advanced text editor, vim, or Qt designer based editor? |
| 06:00.29 | nicholas-ww | NO! Canalith! |
| 06:00.36 | nicholas-ww | That would be silly. |
| 06:00.45 | DeadS0ul` | hagabaka: in control center -> component chooser |
| 06:00.57 | nicholas-ww | And starting now I'm going to be really nice. |
| 06:01.19 | hagabaka | i know where to choose from them, but is there another alternative? |
| 06:02.01 | hagabaka | because they're not suited for viewing text but more for editing, for me |
| 06:02.43 | canllaith | DeadS0ul`: hrm ok |
| 06:03.00 | canllaith | Next time :) |
| 06:03.32 | DeadS0ul` | hagabaka: yeah true, I don't think we have any other choices though =\ |
| 06:03.41 | hagabaka | oh |
| 06:05.37 | nicholas-ww | You are all going to be blown away by how nice i am going to be. |
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| 06:06.02 | nicholas-ww | Hi vexati0n! |
| 06:06.15 | hagabaka | in kwrite and kate, etc. i can do an "incremental search" with Ctrl-Shift-F if I enable the plugin. is it possible in the embedded the text editor? |
| 06:06.23 | vexatiOn | does kde have a way to configure the kdm login screen, like gnome has gdm configurator? |
| 06:06.36 | Aji-Dahaka | yeah |
| 06:06.39 | Aji-Dahaka | it's in kcontrol |
| 06:06.45 | hagabaka | hmm |
| 06:06.47 | Aji-Dahaka | under system administration, maybe |
| 06:06.58 | hagabaka | Aji-Dahaka: to me? |
| 06:07.08 | Aji-Dahaka | to vexatiOn |
| 06:07.27 | vexatiOn | i'm trying to get kde to display a graphical list of users |
| 06:07.32 | hagabaka | oh |
| 06:07.41 | vexatiOn | i check 'show list' but it doesn't do anything, and it doesn't seem to have login themes like gdm has |
| 06:08.24 | Aji-Dahaka | hmm, it has themes (not in kde right now so I can't tell you where) but pretty sure it's the system administration section of kcontrol somewhere |
| 06:08.34 | hagabaka | is KTextEditor the same thing as Embedded Advanced Text Editor? |
| 06:09.26 | vexatiOn | i'm trying to get rid of the default login theme on mandriva |
| 06:09.35 | vexatiOn | but the options in kcontrol don't have any effect on it |
| 06:09.48 | Aji-Dahaka | hmm ... maybe they do something weird to it? |
| 06:09.56 | vexatiOn | probably :/ |
| 06:10.06 | vexatiOn | is mdk like the microsoft of linux or something... |
| 06:10.07 | vexatiOn | lol |
| 06:10.23 | vexatiOn | they even change the default kmenu icon so themes can't change it without you getting into the command line |
| 06:10.53 | DeadS0ul` | heh, that's freaky |
| 06:11.35 | vexatiOn | but there's no option in kcontrol for what i want to do anyway |
| 06:11.41 | vexatiOn | which is display a graphical list of users |
| 06:11.56 | vexatiOn | well i guess its there but it doesnt do anything in mandriva |
| 06:12.02 | vexatiOn | o well... |
| 06:12.49 | Aji-Dahaka | mandrake (when I tried it) was one of the most difficult linux distros I've ever used |
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| 06:13.24 | vexatiOn | 2006 is pretty easy i think, but yea.. there's still some options that apparently don't actually do anything |
| 06:13.30 | tuxxee | is it possible to make konqueror use ~/.netrc ? |
| 06:13.34 | vexatiOn | like switching sessions from the kmenu doesn't work |
| 06:14.02 | Aji-Dahaka | vexatiOn: I consider having to learn how to get around their "easy setups" more difficult than setting it up in the first place |
| 06:14.19 | vexatiOn | yea |
| 06:14.25 | Aji-Dahaka | the easyest I've used might be gentoo, they seem to leave things alone when they install them for the most part |
| 06:14.27 | vexatiOn | well i like the use of rpm's |
| 06:14.53 | vexatiOn | im still a new linux user tho. earlier i installed oo.o without asking for help tho so im proud of myself :P |
| 06:15.15 | Aji-Dahaka | oh, RPMS make you chase dependencies all over, though, no? |
| 06:15.32 | vexatiOn | some do. |
| 06:15.38 | Aji-Dahaka | I found that I had to google down rpms a lot ... depending on other rpms that tended to be off-site somewhere |
| 06:15.39 | tuxxee | Aji-Dahaka: depends whether you use 'smart' RPM tools |
| 06:15.39 | vexatiOn | but i have the same problem with tarballs too |
| 06:15.43 | Aji-Dahaka | it was kind of a pain, I thought |
| 06:15.55 | Aji-Dahaka | and they cleaned up kinda poorly on redhat and mandrake |
| 06:16.05 | Aji-Dahaka | debian's thingit seemed to do well |
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| 06:19.19 | vexatiOn | bleh.. i wish themes weren't always plastered with some distro's branding all over them :/ |
| 06:19.58 | Aji-Dahaka | vexatiOn: I kind of like crystal (I think it's called) no branding there |
| 06:20.06 | Aji-Dahaka | and plastik itself is pretty clean |
| 06:20.30 | vexatiOn | yea i alternate between plastic and crystal |
| 06:21.18 | Aji-Dahaka | mostly I like that crystal can be resized small and still do rounded corners |
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| 06:22.10 | vexatiOn | i wonder when kde is going to allow true transparent titlebars |
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| 06:22.25 | Oleg_ | my C++ program: |
| 06:22.28 | Oleg_ | http://cpp.sourceforge.net/?show=10559 |
| 06:22.39 | vexatiOn | ty for spamming :/ |
| 06:23.00 | canllaith | vexatiOn: it already does |
| 06:23.08 | canllaith | if you have KDE 3.5 and a recent xorg |
| 06:23.27 | Aji-Dahaka | it's a super-cool feature, too |
| 06:23.28 | vexatiOn | yeah.. i'm scared of installing 3.5, lol |
| 06:23.35 | Aji-Dahaka | vexatiOn: why? |
| 06:23.35 | tuxxee | ah i see a familiar name that could have the answer for a konqueror question :) |
| 06:23.38 | tuxxee | hiyya canllaith |
| 06:23.44 | vexatiOn | i don't trust my skills enough |
| 06:23.46 | canllaith | prolly not I'm sick as a dog and can barely think |
| 06:23.47 | canllaith | but lets see |
| 06:23.51 | Aji-Dahaka | vexatiOn: it's stable ... |
| 06:23.59 | vexatiOn | yeah it's stable but i'm not :P |
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| 06:24.02 | tuxxee | canllaith: 1st sorry to hear that and get better soon :) |
| 06:24.28 | tuxxee | canllaith: 2nd; i was wondering if its possible to make konqueror use ~/.netrc for ftp authentication |
| 06:24.39 | canllaith | I think it is actually |
| 06:24.39 | Oleg_ | it's 1:23 a.m. and at this hour I love C++ |
| 06:24.42 | vexatiOn | i was raised on windows, lol... ive only been using linux for a month or so.. i still want to see "clickandinstall.exe" |
| 06:24.52 | Oleg_ | canllaith: get well soon! |
| 06:25.23 | Quanttrom | hey guys anybody know anything about an issue with kopete and msn? |
| 06:25.26 | canllaith | tuxxee: ehm, grepping for netrc in kdebase/konqueror isn't coming up with anything |
| 06:25.29 | canllaith | Quanttrom: what version? |
| 06:25.45 | Quanttrom | canllaith: 0.11 |
| 06:25.54 | tuxxee | canllaith: hmm.. maybe something to add to the wishlist then |
| 06:25.58 | Quanttrom | canllaith: the one that comes witn 3.5 |
| 06:26.09 | canllaith | connected fine for me yesterday |
| 06:26.49 | Quanttrom | then question |
| 06:26.59 | Quanttrom | does ur kernel have something after the numbeing |
| 06:27.04 | Quanttrom | such as a string u add? |
| 06:27.06 | canllaith | that's in the faq |
| 06:27.12 | Quanttrom | yeah I read that |
| 06:27.22 | Quanttrom | added the string in [MSN] |
| 06:27.22 | canllaith | but it doesn't no since I roll it myself |
| 06:27.38 | Quanttrom | but as soon as I start it it removes it from the file |
| 06:28.07 | Oleg_ | by the way, I see that kde 3.5 from svn starts up differently than the official version: at first we see a blank screen, then the kde logo appears |
| 06:28.13 | Quanttrom | I just wonder what's wrong with Kopete...it doesn't seem to work with msn.. |
| 06:28.22 | canllaith | Works for a lot of people with msn. |
| 06:28.29 | Quanttrom | well |
| 06:28.34 | Oleg_ | though maybe the official version starts this way too |
| 06:28.37 | Quanttrom | that's why I want it to work for me too :) |
| 06:29.26 | Quanttrom | my ICQ works fine with Kopete |
| 06:29.33 | Quanttrom | and MSN works fine with Gaim right now |
| 06:30.47 | Quanttrom | is there some kind of status console for the connections? |
| 06:32.14 | DeadS0ul` | kopete works fine for me on msn |
| 06:32.32 | Quanttrom | right now? |
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| 06:32.53 | Quanttrom | ok which version do u have?? |
| 06:33.06 | Quanttrom | and what's ur kernel? |
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| 06:41.31 | dob2 | hi |
| 06:41.51 | mark_alec | gday dob2 |
| 06:42.56 | dob2 | i have problem to read gpg mail with kmail, it has problem to decrypt the message while other mail clients has no problem with the same message, i read that it is a known problem on google but didn't find a solution, there is one? |
| 06:48.50 | Oleg_ | the source code for qt4 looks so beautiful |
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| 07:05.24 | xmurasaki | I can't figure out how to add/remove icons from the bottom of the k menu. |
| 07:05.37 | xmurasaki | To the right of the K on the bottom of the screen. |
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| 07:07.53 | mhall | Does anybody know if there's an elegant way to get KOffice to export PDF from the command line? Doing it with OOO is teh sux. |
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| 07:11.04 | Columcile | first step: never again say 'teh sux' |
| 07:11.12 | Columcile | after that, ask someone else because I don't know. :) |
| 07:11.15 | mhall | Columcile: Fair enough but why not? |
| 07:11.37 | Aji-Dahaka | it's pretty l4m3rZ |
| 07:11.47 | mhall | I think that's rather subjective. |
| 07:11.53 | Aji-Dahaka | but you're wrong |
| 07:11.58 | Columcile | well I guess it is possible that you're a 16 year old male |
| 07:12.02 | Columcile | but if not, I'd stay away from it |
| 07:12.48 | mhall | Not that it matters in your evaluation but I was going for ironic effect rather than a literal use of teh sux for its own sake. |
| 07:14.25 | Lazydog | xmurasaki: right click -> pannel menu -> remove from pannel |
| 07:14.42 | Lazydog | xmurasaki: to add use add to pannel |
| 07:15.59 | mhall | If you tried the process of adding and invoking the macros needed to export PDFs from the CLI in OOo you'd see why I labeled it as I did. |
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| 07:16.41 | Aji-Dahaka | so you're saying it's good or bad? |
| 07:16.51 | Aji-Dahaka | it seems that you have just put for both opinions |
| 07:17.17 | mhall | Well it's so horrifyingly mangled, that the usual bad doesn't begin to describe it. |
| 07:17.37 | mhall | Because even if you get it to work in an unsupported headless mode, it still will bomb if X is not running. |
| 07:17.52 | mhall | It's really pathological. |
| 07:18.36 | Aji-Dahaka | but then you meant teh sux |
| 07:18.52 | Aji-Dahaka | so how is it ironic, then? |
| 07:19.18 | mhall | Well, in the sense that any other fitting description would involve profanity. |
| 07:19.42 | canllaith | kinda |
| 07:19.49 | mhall | And I didn't think it was especially kosher to unleash that much profanity onto a channel where I was not a regular. |
| 07:20.19 | Aji-Dahaka | probably not |
| 07:20.28 | tuxxee | canllaith: .netrc loginseems to be possible |
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| 07:39.28 | DeadS0ul` | can any of you check if the site http://www.reasonstorock.com loads a favicon? |
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| 07:42.37 | straw-afk | DeadS0ul`: yeah, it does |
| 07:43.30 | DeadS0ul` | straw: what did you use? |
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| 07:43.56 | straw | DeadS0ul`: firefox and konq |
| 07:44.48 | DeadS0ul` | hmm doesn't load in konq for me =\ |
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| 07:49.26 | DeadS0ul` | straw: thanx btw |
| 07:49.36 | straw | yup :) |
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| 07:57.16 | sredna | Olleh |
| 07:57.36 | straw | hello sredna |
| 07:57.56 | sredna | :) |
| 07:59.27 | DeadS0ul` | heya |
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| 08:23.23 | Blue-Steel | are these the libs : kde-base/kde-env ? |
| 08:23.43 | sredna | Blue-Steel: Wrong channel, go to #<yourdistro> |
| 08:25.53 | hagabaka | i hate it when you open a Properties dialog of an applet or button on a panel, ALL the KDE panels are disabled |
| 08:26.10 | hagabaka | and the properties dialog can be overlapped by other windows |
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| 08:27.40 | benJIman | hagabaka: doesn't here |
| 08:27.53 | hagabaka | hmm |
| 08:29.21 | hagabaka | oh, it seems to only happen for me if I click another window before the dialog shows up |
| 08:30.22 | hagabaka | then the mouse cursor changes when I hover on buttons, and autohidden panels will show up, but they don't respond to clicks |
| 08:31.27 | benJIman | I don't think I can click another window that quickly |
| 08:31.34 | sredna | Brb, new kernel |
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| 08:39.52 | sredna | What is the meaning of this |
| 08:39.53 | sredna | kded: WARNING: [KDEDModule* Kded::loadModule(const KService*, bool)] Could not load library. [ Libra |
| 08:39.53 | sredna | Ry files for "libkded_mediamanager.la" not found in paths. ] |
| 08:39.55 | sredna | ? |
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| 09:25.29 | volty | I want to buy a satellite tv card, pls advice on what to buy, usb vs. pci, or post nice url, or irc channel, thx. |
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| 09:27.09 | gregday | volty: perhaps you should ask in a relevant channel, like #hardware |
| 09:27.32 | volty | thx |
| 09:28.58 | sredna | The 'line up icons' function on the desktop is not only aligning, it's reordering :\ |
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| 09:30.15 | sredna | Silly kde |
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| 09:58.43 | fpitt_ | Ciao |
| 10:03.12 | marburg | how do you specify in kaffeine how much it should buffer when playing streaming video? |
| 10:04.17 | cpw | pwnzed :o |
| 10:04.59 | _mark | Anybody ever seen a QT version called "tinyQT" or something like a stripped down "QT?" |
| 10:05.09 | cpw | qt embedded |
| 10:05.17 | cpw | for pda's and what not |
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| 10:08.34 | _mark | cpw, I am putting it on a small sys... but not embedded. do you think it will work? |
| 10:08.43 | cpw | should yah |
| 10:09.03 | cpw | don't take my word for it though, I haven't actually used qt embedded, I'd check the trolltech site |
| 10:09.16 | oGALAXYo | no i doubt you will be successful with it. |
| 10:09.19 | benJIman | marburg: I think it's based on the network.bandwidth setting but not sure |
| 10:09.19 | _mark | hmm... I'll check it out. Think I can use kde with it? |
| 10:09.24 | oGALAXYo | you dont gain or save anything either. |
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| 10:09.40 | oGALAXYo | _mark: why do you want to use tinyQT ? |
| 10:09.53 | benJIman | marburg: that's under settings -> xine engine parameters -> media |
| 10:10.01 | _mark | oGALAXYo, just curious. |
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| 10:10.24 | benJIman | _mark: http://www.trolltech.com/products/qtopia/index.html |
| 10:10.50 | _mark | benJIman, thanks. |
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| 10:12.04 | marburg | benJIman: thx. i'll look into it |
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| 10:32.15 | ponto | Is it possible to add some time, between the point when a mail is chosen by the cursor and the point when kmail trys to render the mail? |
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| 10:33.47 | sredna | ponto: No |
| 10:33.54 | sredna | Why would you want to do that? |
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| 10:37.09 | ponto | Because I filter my mails first by subject and sender to sort out all spam. (I do not use other spamfilters). To do this i use two keys. "Del" and "Arrow Right". When kmails trys to render all mails. The whole procedure flickers and I am faster at proceeding than kmail at rendering. It is annoying to make pauses to let kmail catch up. |
| 10:38.11 | hagabaka | maybe you could hide the preview screen when you filter |
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| 10:38.50 | ponto | hagabaka: maybe, but some mails still catch my attention and i want to read them immediately. |
| 10:40.10 | ponto | The alternative would be that kmail improves rendering speed by several factors |
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| 10:42.09 | SpooForBrains | sounds like you'd be better off using pine |
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| 10:53.21 | harry_ | goodmorning |
| 10:53.44 | harry_ | i get this error "No man page matching to Tk::ToolBar found. You can extend the search path by setting the environment variable MANPATH before starting KDE. |
| 10:53.55 | harry_ | where is the best place to set this? |
| 10:54.40 | nvon | hi all. a Q: i try to build 3.5 with konstruct, and it fails with:"mul_fft.c:168: error: syntax error before 'LSYM_PREFIX'" in libs/gmp/work/gmp-4.1.4 ...any ideas? |
| 10:55.43 | oGALAXYo | harry_: /etc/profiles |
| 10:55.57 | harry_ | thank you |
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| 11:06.44 | yikes | editing aim profile supported in kopete? |
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| 11:10.16 | sredna | yikes: If you can't find out by trying, you could ask in #kopete |
| 11:12.23 | yikes | okay thanks |
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| 11:23.19 | Katagia | Good morning |
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| 11:25.35 | Katagia | I use suse 10.0 and have upgraded kde to 3.5. For any reason preview doesn't work for jpg files. gif and png works. Kuickshow dosn't show them too. Any idea what is wrong? |
| 11:28.18 | oGALAXYo | try to enter 'ldconfig' as root |
| 11:28.19 | oGALAXYo | and see again |
| 11:28.32 | sredna | Katagia: Ask in #suse maybe. Some linking problems |
| 11:30.10 | Katagia | My problem is I don't have any idea where to search for the problem |
| 11:30.50 | sredna | Running ldconfig isn't a bad idea |
| 11:31.03 | Katagia | oGALAXYo: ldconfig was the key, thank you |
| 11:31.08 | sredna | Allthough it should be done |
| 11:31.12 | oGALAXYo | :) |
| 11:31.36 | Katagia | I thought ldconfig is called fromn SuSEconfig when installing rpms via yast in suse, strange |
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| 11:39.28 | Russel-Athletic | is there a channel for people wo want to programm with kdethings? |
| 11:39.44 | Russel-Athletic | like questions where i can ask how to use kioslaves |
| 11:40.14 | oGALAXYo | Russel-Athletic: #kde-devel |
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| 11:41.18 | Russel-Athletic | thx |
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| 11:54.17 | Oleg_ | gotta update |
| 11:56.40 | Arafangion | Why doesn't kmail sort by the columns you click on? (eg, date) |
| 11:58.28 | tsdh | Arafangion: Here it does... |
| 11:58.48 | Arafangion | tsdh: You using Version 1.9 using KDE 3.5? |
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| 11:59.09 | tsdh | Arafangion: Yes |
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| 12:09.55 | The_Ball | is karamba integrated in 3.5, if yes where? |
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| 12:14.33 | sredna | The_Ball: No |
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| 12:17.28 | The_Ball | http://www.kde.org/announcements/visualguide-3.5.php |
| 12:17.34 | The_Ball | SuperKaramba, a tool that allows you to easily create interactive eye-candy on the desktop, is now included in KDE. |
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| 12:18.01 | The_Ball | sredna, says it should be |
| 12:18.21 | sredna | Hm, right |
| 12:19.05 | sredna | The_Ball: It's in the kdeutils module |
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| 12:29.36 | firestorm | Howdy. I have KDE on a CRT and TV connected via TV-output with different X11 screens on each. As I can only control the CRT and have no way of controlling TV screen (output only), how can I change the KDE settigns for TV screen so that applications, such as mplayer and xine, use the entire screen by hiding the KDE panel? |
| 12:29.43 | BigKahuna | I have a fancy moodin theme for KDM. When I lock a KDE session is there any way to display the KDM login windows as opposed to the KDE screensaver login window thingy? |
| 12:29.59 | BigKahuna | hopes that clear. |
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| 12:32.00 | pusling | is there an ssh-add kde frontend ? |
| 12:33.17 | Arafangion | tsdh: Interesting. |
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| 12:34.17 | firestorm | pusling: I would love to know the answer when you find out...was wondering the same thing a few minutes ago |
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| 12:34.45 | pusling | I now use the standard x frontend on my way into kde ... |
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| 12:36.24 | aanjhan | guys has someone configred gmail on any of the mail clients of KDE, say KMAIL |
| 12:37.04 | Hobbsee | aanjhan: yeah, on kmail, what were you wanting to know? |
| 12:37.10 | firestorm | pusling: what is the command for standard x frontend? |
| 12:37.16 | Hobbsee | not on this install though |
| 12:37.18 | aanjhan | its not asking me the password details |
| 12:37.40 | aanjhan | and It is not downlading the mails |
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| 12:37.49 | Hobbsee | hmmm |
| 12:38.00 | aanjhan | i would like to know if u have a how to for configuring gmail on Kmail?? |
| 12:38.00 | pusling | firestorm: ssh-add ;) |
| 12:38.50 | firestorm | pusling: i have eval `ssh-agent`; ssh-add in my .xinitrc and .xsession but I never get prompted for password to unlock key-id....however, running ssh-add interactively in a term after logging in works (no GUI tho)...any hints? |
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| 12:39.57 | pusling | $ cat .xinitrc |
| 12:40.05 | pusling | ssh-agent sh -c 'ssh-add </dev/null && exec startkde' || startkde |
| 12:41.12 | firestorm | pusling: will that work with GDM/KDM? |
| 12:41.34 | firestorm | in the past I never had a .xinitrc with startkde, but chose KDE session from menu item at KDM |
| 12:41.37 | pusling | don't know. I start x manually using startx and log in thru konsole |
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| 12:46.20 | firestorm | pusling: ahh :) |
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| 12:53.10 | rohan | hi all |
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| 12:53.37 | rohan | on what basis does kde create entries in media:/ or system:/media ? i get zero entries there |
| 12:53.40 | rohan | its archlinux |
| 12:53.47 | rohan | everythings mounted in /media |
| 12:54.04 | AssociateX | Good ,orning all |
| 12:54.08 | AssociateX | moring* |
| 12:54.20 | AssociateX | morning*** |
| 12:54.39 | leeghoofd | hey, I use "Thread list " in kmail, do you know if it is also possible to show my own messages I send in this threads? so it's like a froum? |
| 12:57.44 | sredna | AssociateX: Hello :) |
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| 12:58.04 | rohan | they used to be there in kde 3.4 |
| 12:58.17 | leeghoofd | rohan: I use archlinux too, since a update some time ago it doesn't show it anymore by me too, only when I insert something (a cd, usb stick, camera etc) it shows it in media |
| 12:58.30 | leeghoofd | but I don't mind |
| 12:58.35 | sredna | rohan: The media:/ kio slave provides direct access to storage media. The default is to use fstab, but if you have hal installed it can use hal as a backend |
| 12:58.43 | rohan | leeghoofd: hmm.. |
| 12:58.53 | leeghoofd | because I only want it to show _removable_ media, doe sit show that by you? |
| 12:58.57 | sredna | The hal backend can be turned of if you dislike it |
| 12:59.06 | rohan | sredna: what if i disable hal ? maybe its b0rken. let it use fstab |
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| 12:59.58 | rohan | leeghoofd: dunno. i dont have any usb sticks |
| 13:00.10 | leeghoofd | rohan: and if you insert a cd, does it show that? |
| 13:00.12 | sredna | Personally, I believe it should not have been released, as the default way is meaningless and the hal thing is not reliable |
| 13:00.41 | rohan | leeghoofd: lemme check |
| 13:01.29 | rohan | leeghoofd: ya, cds are shown |
| 13:01.42 | leeghoofd | ok, than the automounting stuff all works |
| 13:02.00 | leeghoofd | if you check fstab you will see it automatically added a line for you cd in there |
| 13:02.02 | AssociateX | *yawn*... I wonder where my coffee is... |
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| 13:02.35 | Hobbsee | AssociateX: sudo apt-get coffee :P |
| 13:02.46 | AssociateX | Any how, where do I setup app to start at the start of kde |
| 13:02.48 | AssociateX | ? |
| 13:02.57 | rohan | AssociateX: or pacman -S coffee |
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| 13:03.40 | AssociateX | Hobbsee, it's USE="sugar" emerge coffee |
| 13:03.45 | rohan | leeghoofd: cant see one |
| 13:03.58 | Hobbsee | hehe that too |
| 13:04.05 | AssociateX | :) |
| 13:04.13 | sredna | AssociateX: You can drop links in ~/.kde/Autostart |
| 13:04.27 | AssociateX | sredna, thanks buddy |
| 13:04.34 | sredna | AssociateX: Or KDEDIR/share/autostart if you want to globalize |
| 13:04.48 | leeghoofd | rohan: huh, that's strange, it works without fstab? I didn't know that that was possible |
| 13:04.55 | sredna | Anything krun can execute, a desktop file, script, link or executable |
| 13:05.02 | rohan | leeghoofd: whats that line it added for u ? |
| 13:05.07 | rohan | leeghoofd: atm, i have HAL enabled |
| 13:05.09 | AssociateX | sredna, thanks again, just one user here though |
| 13:05.19 | leeghoofd | rohan: yeah, me too |
| 13:05.24 | rohan | i disabled it, so it might add that line the next reboot, leeghoofd |
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| 13:06.38 | leeghoofd | rohan: this is the line it added: /dev/hdc /media/dvdwriter3 auto user,exec,noauto,comment=managed 0 0 |
| 13:07.23 | astilson | exit |
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| 13:08.31 | sam^ | moin |
| 13:11.23 | bippo_ | applications disappear when minimized, any reasons ? Suse10 & KDE |
| 13:11.42 | sredna | bippo_: Missint taskbar? |
| 13:11.46 | sredna | Missing |
| 13:12.04 | bippo_ | sredna: how to get it back ? |
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| 13:12.36 | sredna | bippo_: Rightclick the panel and select add applet om the panel menu |
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| 13:13.36 | bippo_ | sredna: thanx , it's back |
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| 13:15.12 | rohan | leeghoofd: removing hal daemon, now cd automounting wont work |
| 13:15.16 | rohan | but the entries are there |
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| 13:20.52 | rohan | another problem is that |
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| 13:20.56 | rohan | now on my kcontrol screen |
| 13:21.00 | rohan | or my konqi screen |
| 13:21.05 | rohan | the left corner is not show |
| 13:21.10 | rohan | in that white box |
| 13:21.16 | rohan | limme show a scr |
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| 13:24.39 | Almindor | sorry for the stupid question but I just can't figure out how to set konqueror to open new windows not new tabs |
| 13:25.32 | rohan | Almindor: see in web behaviour -> tab settings -> advanced setting |
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| 13:26.36 | Almindor | ah thanks |
| 13:26.43 | Almindor | I tought it should be in generic behavior |
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| 13:26.59 | rohan | http://dhruva.be/screenshots/snapshot1.png |
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| 13:27.04 | rohan | whats the problem ? |
| 13:27.11 | rohan | why is the top right chip not displayed ? |
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| 13:40.50 | rohan | hi shastry |
| 13:40.51 | rohan | :) |
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| 13:41.25 | shastry | hoi! |
| 13:41.27 | rohan | http://dhruva.be/screenshots/snapshot1.png |
| 13:41.33 | shastry | heh no ones alive.. |
| 13:41.36 | shastry | come tomorrow |
| 13:41.42 | rohan | the left corner is not shown |
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| 13:41.45 | rohan | in that white box |
| 13:41.52 | rohan | someone plz check the scr to know |
| 13:41.59 | shastry | left corner ? |
| 13:42.04 | rohan | i promise it wont sap up your connectivity |
| 13:42.06 | Theory_ | you mean top right corner? |
| 13:42.07 | rohan | ah... right |
| 13:42.16 | rohan | Theory_: plz check the scr. i can really explain |
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| 13:43.09 | rohan | anyone can guess what that top right corner image name can be ? |
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| 13:44.39 | Arafangion | rohan: What do you mean? |
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| 13:45.20 | rohan | Arafangion: plz see the scr |
| 13:45.27 | rohan | but i found the corrupted image |
| 13:45.44 | Arafangion | rohan: I can see the screen. |
| 13:46.13 | rohan | /opt/kde/share/apps/kdeui/about/box-top-right.png -----> this is the borken image |
| 13:47.08 | rohan | Arafangion: see the white box |
| 13:47.12 | rohan | see the top right |
| 13:47.17 | rohan | its chipped off |
| 13:47.31 | rohan | i think the problem can be solved by a reinstall of kdelibs |
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| 13:48.07 | leeghoofd | rohan: as far as I know you need hal, for automounting to work, but I don't know much about the topic, I only know how I got it working :) |
| 13:49.17 | rohan | leeghoofd: ya, u need hal |
| 13:49.24 | rohan | screw it |
| 13:49.29 | rohan | i dont need cd automount anyway |
| 13:49.43 | sredna | KDEDIR/share/apps/kdeui/about/box-top-right.png |
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| 13:50.53 | rohan | sredna: thanks. how did you find it ? i did it so crudely. find | grep png | grep top | grep right |
| 13:50.56 | rohan | :( |
| 13:51.26 | Arafangion | rohan: My guess is that the final image is constructed using css. |
| 13:51.35 | sredna | rohan: I looked in KDEDIR/share/apps/konqueror/about/intro.html for the stylesheet |
| 13:51.46 | rohan | Arafangion: yes. but the png was corrupted. so i reinstalled kdelibs |
| 13:51.48 | rohan | now it works |
| 13:52.04 | Arafangion | Well, I should get some sleep then. |
| 13:52.24 | rohan | Arafangion: thanks. night :) |
| 13:52.29 | rohan | sredna: wow, ok |
| 13:53.15 | sredna | rohan: I used kde since last century, and over the years a few things stuck to my poor brain ;) |
| 13:53.29 | rohan | lol |
| 13:56.02 | rohan | i wonder why i get such errors |
| 13:56.13 | rohan | a few days back, it was monitor.png |
| 13:56.53 | rohan | is it some virus ? :P |
| 13:59.57 | Arafangion | rohan: Viruses are relatively unknown on linux, though they do exist. |
| 14:00.09 | rohan | Arafangion: lol, i was jokin |
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| 14:02.36 | jong | does anyone know if there are any (free) collections of art available (like a tarball with art from Michelangelo?) |
| 14:05.00 | whirm | jong: http://www.openclipart.org/ perhaps? |
| 14:06.04 | jong | whirm: not really, I was looking for paintings or photos of sculptures or something |
| 14:06.16 | jong | whirm: something to have as a random background or screensaver |
| 14:06.34 | DeadS0ul` | whoa open clipart.. |
| 14:06.37 | jong | whirm: would say that the copyright of van Gogh has been expired by now :) |
| 14:06.48 | whirm | ^_^ |
| 14:08.36 | sam^ | jong: if you use them for your private entertainment, try flickr |
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| 14:09.25 | sam^ | nevertheless, the licences there are very varied |
| 14:09.29 | linoleum | hello, I am debian sid(unstable) , and I would like to install the KDE 3 desktop ... how could I do, bec |
| 14:09.32 | AssociateX | thanks for the help[ |
| 14:09.35 | AssociateX | help* |
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| 14:09.57 | linoleum | hello, I am debian sid(unstable) , and I would like to install the KDE 3.5 desktop ... how could I do?? thanks |
| 14:10.27 | sredna | linoleum: Ask in #debian-kde for where to find packages and use apt |
| 14:10.40 | linoleum | sredna, thank you |
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| 14:11.03 | jong | sam^: still not really what I'm looking for |
| 14:11.38 | jong | sam^: under macos X I have some (shareware) screensavers with art from various artists... wanted to have something likewise under linux |
| 14:11.50 | jong | sam^: in any case, I'm asking this totally on the wrong channel |
| 14:13.54 | DeadS0ul` | sredna: really? 3.5 in debian unstable.. |
| 14:14.45 | sredna | DeadS0ul`: Probably not official packages, but you can find debian packages out there |
| 14:15.20 | DeadS0ul` | says on their site that debian sid is moving to 3.4.3 still *@&&^@#&@ |
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| 14:21.14 | monster | hi |
| 14:21.40 | monster | I have X screen on Alt+F8 is this normal?? |
| 14:21.55 | monster | I have Alt+F7 earlier |
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| 14:22.15 | monster | I didnt touch anything just installed kde 3.5 |
| 14:22.22 | monster | I didnt touch anything just installed kde 3.4 |
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| 14:27.27 | Trippin | are there any known issues with aRTS 1.5?\ |
| 14:27.35 | shastry | Trippin: like ? |
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| 14:27.59 | Trippin | crashes under certain circumstances |
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| 14:28.36 | Trippin | and when it doesnt crash, it doesnt play any sound.. |
| 14:28.46 | Trippin | well let me take it from the top.. |
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| 14:29.15 | Trippin | running ALSA 1.0.10RC1 that is included in the kernel 2.6.14 |
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| 14:30.05 | Trippin | I'm sure sound is working, cause I can do aplay -D hw:2,0 file.wav and it plays fine, as long as arts is suspended or killed |
| 14:30.51 | Trippin | here is the circumstances behind when it doesnt crash but wont play any sound, and when it does cracsh.. |
| 14:32.00 | Trippin | My hw:0,0 is a dummy sound driver, and hw:1,0 is the virtual midi device. If my .asoundrc doesnt exist, so that the dummy is being used, arts doesnt crash. |
| 14:32.01 | lasindi | Hi all. I installed an X11 cursor theme, but I still get the old default "hand" icon when I, for example, mouseover a link in Konqueror or mouseover an application shortcut on the panel. What do I need to change to make KDE use the new hand icon? |
| 14:34.35 | Trippin | now if i setup my .soundrc to change the default to hw:2,0 and then restart arts, it hangs restarting, and so I have to kill it. |
| 14:34.48 | Trippin | unless.. |
| 14:36.01 | Trippin | when I set the custom sample rate to the alsa default of 8khz, then it doesnt hang, but it also doesnt put out any sound.. |
| 14:36.11 | Trippin | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:37.15 | Trippin | now i should mention that i didnt have the dummy card and virtual midi setup with the arts that ships with kde 3.4.3.... |
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| 14:39.12 | lasindi | Btw, my mouse icon problem is with KDE 3.5 on Slackware. |
| 14:42.04 | Trippin | i home-compiled kernel 2.6.14 and then right after that i installed the unofficial kde 3.5 packages\. |
| 14:42.32 | Trippin | lasindi.. sounds to me like the cursor theme you installed doesnt have a replacement for the arrow.. |
| 14:42.43 | Trippin | do you have a link i can download it from? i'll check it out |
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| 14:42.58 | Trippin | brb cig, but ill get it when i come back |
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| 14:51.18 | SWAT | hi all, how can I burn files > 2gb with k3b? (on a data DVD) |
| 14:51.48 | lasindi | Trippin: there is a file called "arrow" in there, is that what you mean? |
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| 14:54.23 | SWAT | so how can I burn UDF with k3b? |
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| 14:55.40 | floyd_n_milan | how do i get audacity to use /dev/dsp in KDE? |
| 14:58.00 | lasindi | Trippin: there is a file called "arrow" in there, is that what you mean? |
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| 15:00.52 | petryk | hello |
| 15:01.01 | petryk | i have a problem |
| 15:02.00 | petryk | just while starting kde on my profile , my kde write error , when , kfile crash |
| 15:02.19 | petryk | do here any know what ? |
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| 15:08.59 | spielmann | hi. I'm trying to install tellico and when apt-getting it I get this nasty dependencies problem: http://rafb.net/paste/results/SEPgmG93.html I have pasted my sources.list as well (just 1 line). Any hints? |
| 15:10.10 | sredna | spielmann: Debian problems goes better in #debian or if kde related, #debian-kde |
| 15:10.28 | spielmann | oh I see. Sorry |
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| 15:19.28 | SmallR2002 | kde keeps turning my bottom (transparant) bar white, is there any way i can stop it? |
| 15:19.32 | VisezTrance | how can i see where where kde is installed ? and how do i know with what options(flags) was it compiled ? |
| 15:20.17 | sredna | VisezTrance: Try 'kde-config --prefix' in a terminal |
| 15:20.48 | sredna | VisezTrance: As far as options, it's probably distro dependant what information you can get |
| 15:21.20 | sredna | VisezTrance: Ie on a rpm distro, you coulc look at the spec file |
| 15:21.22 | VisezTrance | the output of the command was /usr, however it ain't there |
| 15:21.23 | sredna | Could |
| 15:21.34 | VisezTrance | it's fedora core 4 |
| 15:27.13 | shastry | SmallR2002: kde 3.5 ? |
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| 15:27.26 | SmallR2002 | shastry, yup |
| 15:27.35 | shastry | heh i think its a bug |
| 15:27.39 | SmallR2002 | okey |
| 15:27.39 | shastry | even i experienced it |
| 15:27.43 | shastry | especially when changing desktops |
| 15:27.49 | SmallR2002 | then there will be a bug report filed |
| 15:27.58 | shastry | dunno |
| 15:28.02 | shastry | you better do that |
| 15:28.26 | SmallR2002 | i have food to eat... ;) |
| 15:28.27 | SmallR2002 | bbl |
| 15:28.42 | shastry | lazy cows! |
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| 15:34.21 | Quanttrom | hey guys I got a couple of questions regarding transparency/shadows |
| 15:34.22 | Lilldude10 | can you make kde use less ram? its on p3 550 512 ram |
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| 15:35.19 | fE_rdy_ | hi |
| 15:35.47 | sredna | Lilldude10: You can turn off some of the eyecandy |
| 15:36.05 | sredna | Lilldude10: There is a page about optimizing kde in http://wiki.kde.org |
| 15:36.37 | fE_rdy_ | i am messing around with that several hours... i'd like to have my shift-F6 rename/move function in midgnight commander back, because kde or konsole seems to steal it away |
| 15:36.48 | fE_rdy_ | what can i do? |
| 15:38.31 | Quanttrom | ok |
| 15:38.45 | Quanttrom | fE_rdy_: I just found that out in COntrol CEnter |
| 15:38.58 | fE_rdy_ | Quanttrom: where? |
| 15:39.07 | Quanttrom | fE_rdy_: just a second let me find it again |
| 15:39.28 | fE_rdy_ | Quanttrom: its not khotkeys if you think of that one |
| 15:39.49 | Quanttrom | no |
| 15:39.58 | fE_rdy_ | Quanttrom: i double checked every entry and found shift-f6 nowhere |
| 15:40.26 | fE_rdy_ | Quanttrom: if i run mc in a plain xterm (in kde) the same misbehaviour occurs |
| 15:40.31 | Quanttrom | fE_rdy_: Desktop --> Windo-Specific -> New and try and see what u can do |
| 15:40.42 | fE_rdy_ | Quanttrom: will try that |
| 15:40.48 | Quanttrom | fE_rdy_: it might help |
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| 15:43.22 | Lilldude10 | there is desktop wizzard for eye candy i can turn that to slow cpu they realy did not make a difference |
| 15:43.30 | fE_rdy_ | Quanttrom: sorry, i dont understand... where is window-specific to be found? |
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| 15:45.30 | fE_rdy_ | this just can't be true- where is shift-f6, damnit |
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| 15:45.58 | jong | small question btw, I'm using the xrender shadow extentions built into KDE... since 3.5.0 I have troubles with windows showing only the top 64x64 pixels when they appear... after moving a window, the rest of the contents appear. Is this a known issue and is there an easy workaround (apart from disabling shadows?) |
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| 15:49.26 | Quanttrom | fE_rdy_: Workaround Tab --> Block Grobal shortcuts -->Force it and all that |
| 15:49.30 | oGALAXYo | jong: what xorg version ? |
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| 15:52.53 | Quanttrom | anybody know how to set the level of transparency of menu's? |
| 15:52.58 | jong | oGALAXYo: moment |
| 15:53.28 | jong | oGALAXYo: 6.8.2 |
| 15:56.48 | sredna | Quanttrom: In the widget style control panel |
| 15:57.09 | sredna | Effects tab |
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| 16:00.40 | TomTom | hi there! is it possible that the "remote folders" dont support nfs ? |
| 16:00.58 | TomTom | the wizard only supports ftpmwebdav and smb |
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| 16:01.47 | BernardBlack | TomTom: don't think it does |
| 16:02.04 | BernardBlack | TomTom: NFS mounts are handled in the same way as drives iirc |
| 16:02.36 | TomTom | BernardBlack: so i have to use a "noauto" entry in the fstab or use the automounter ? |
| 16:02.43 | BernardBlack | probably |
| 16:02.56 | pusling | is kde.org down ? |
| 16:04.18 | EruditeHermit | yes |
| 16:04.30 | EruditeHermit | I can't get to it either |
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| 16:09.33 | jcurry | whenever i run a kde app from konsole, i get the following error, repeated a lot: "X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3"...how do i get rid of it? |
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| 16:13.01 | Lilldude10 | it wants auto start directory how i make it |
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| 16:27.37 | N9NU | Where are the options for SuperKaramba within KDE 3.5 |
| 16:29.34 | SmallR2002 | wow |
| 16:29.45 | SmallR2002 | kde just turned all my transparancies white |
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| 16:31.20 | SuperSim | N9NU: i just ran "superkaramba" (from alt-f2) |
| 16:31.33 | SuperSim | i found the transperancies very very slow on one computer |
| 16:31.36 | SuperSim | and it crashed the other one :( |
| 16:31.40 | SuperSim | ok |
| 16:31.43 | SuperSim | time to go |
| 16:31.45 | SuperSim | mary party 7 awaits |
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| 16:33.44 | c-101 | Hi |
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| 16:39.16 | N9NU | i found it |
| 16:39.23 | N9NU | superkaramba works great here |
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| 16:44.46 | jong | small question btw, I'm using the xrender shadow extentions built into KDE... since 3.5.0 I have troubles with windows showing only the top 64x64 pixels when they appear... after moving a window, the rest of the contents appear. Is this a known issue and is there an easy workaround (apart from disabling shadows?) |
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| 16:47.28 | Lord_Athur | hi |
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| 16:48.53 | Lord_Athur | what's the name of the application that allows me to use GAMBAS with the kde options? |
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| 16:55.54 | azazello | does "align icons to grid" not work in kde 3.5 fina? |
| 16:55.56 | azazello | final |
| 16:56.05 | sredna | It works here |
| 16:56.06 | azazello | it sure doesn't seem to work here |
| 16:56.14 | benJIman | works here |
| 16:56.15 | N9NU | works here |
| 16:56.18 | azazello | strange |
| 16:56.45 | Quanttro1 | hello guys does anyone know how to adjust the transparency of menu's? |
| 16:57.05 | sredna | Quanttro1: Ion the control panel, find the 'style |
| 16:57.18 | sredna | Page, and look in the 'effects' tab |
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| 16:59.35 | Quanttro1 | sredna: I think I have but let me try agian |
| 17:00.41 | Quanttro1 | sredna: What is the best option for the Type XRender Blend?? |
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| 17:01.11 | sredna | Quanttro1: Don't ask me, I dont use those fancy things |
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| 17:03.59 | Quanttro1 | sredna: I don't know if that's a bug or a feature..but..First when u click with the right button on ur desktop u get the normal menu with the transparency u set. If u keep cliking the right button the transparency goes down so it eventually becomes not transparent. Is that a feature? |
| 17:05.14 | sredna | Quanttro1: Again, I don't know really. But I think the transperancy offered in there is supposed to be a a bit buggy, if you have a good graphics card, use the XComposite stuff |
| 17:05.15 | benJIman | Quanttro1: it's because you're using fake transparency probably |
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| 17:05.30 | benJIman | Quanttro1: and it hasn't had time to repaint the background when it opens again |
| 17:05.57 | benJIman | Quanttro1: the composite stuff provides true transparency, it's not really stable yet though |
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| 17:07.14 | Quanttro1 | benJIman: by composite I think u mean Option "Composite" "true" in xorg.conf. I have that and redrawing the background doesn't seem to be it because u can change the location of the right button click therefore the location of the menu |
| 17:07.37 | linoleum | hello , I got a simply question : how can I reset all the seting I made with KDE , and have a "default" desktop ? |
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| 17:08.33 | benJIman | linoleum: rename ~/.kde, I say rename and not delete as it may contain your mail and such as well as settings |
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| 17:09.02 | linoleum | ok I understand , thank you |
| 17:09.06 | N9NU | dumping that file and restarting will initialize defaults |
| 17:09.06 | sredna | linoleum: Backup ~/.kde/share/config to a safe place |
| 17:09.29 | Quanttrom | benJIman: yeap it just crashed by itself... I think that's what u meant..:P |
| 17:09.36 | sredna | N9NU: Hello, loooooong time ;) |
| 17:09.52 | N9NU | hello there |
| 17:10.06 | sredna | Or there about |
| 17:10.16 | N9NU | yep. i gave up with that channel after all the crap |
| 17:10.21 | benJIman | Quanttrom: it's more stable on some cards than others |
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| 17:10.34 | benJIman | it's pretty stable on mine for instance |
| 17:10.42 | Quanttrom | benJIman: Yeah I got an nvidia |
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| 17:10.46 | N9NU | took me along time to get Mandrake (Mandriva) to sponsor it too |
| 17:10.49 | benJIman | but just hardlocks on geforce4200 ti |
| 17:11.15 | N9NU | im just running Flight Sim 2004 via Wine here |
| 17:11.25 | Quanttrom | benJIman this comp has a classic GeForce 4 MX 440 SE :) |
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| 17:22.28 | DeadS0ul` | do any of you know css? |
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| 17:24.42 | g3nocide | DeadS0ul`: i do |
| 17:24.49 | g3nocide | what's up |
| 17:25.18 | DeadS0ul` | having trouble with positioning on my site, http://www.reasonstorock.com/today.html |
| 17:25.33 | DeadS0ul` | the bit at the very bottom, I can't close the gap between the block of text and the image above it |
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| 17:26.19 | g3nocide | give the very bottom element a negative top padding |
| 17:26.23 | g3nocide | that's jsut a hack tho |
| 17:26.34 | g3nocide | but it should work |
| 17:26.45 | DeadS0ul` | tried that, it doesnt' fill in teh background |
| 17:27.44 | g3nocide | ah, crappy |
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| 17:28.36 | DeadS0ul` | naw wait it's just adding big block of black above it, and not closing the gap =D |
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| 17:31.40 | sredna | DeadS0ul`: Hunt down what is adding a margin there ;) |
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| 17:33.39 | DeadS0ul` | tried that... |
| 17:33.46 | DeadS0ul` | i foudn the hack to fix it though... |
| 17:33.53 | DeadS0ul` | moved the margin up to.. |
| 17:33.56 | DeadS0ul` | 10 |
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| 17:34.19 | DeadS0ul` | dirty hack >| |
| 17:35.03 | DeadS0ul` | uploaded w00t |
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| 17:37.49 | N9NU | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:38.11 | N9NU | ' n y |
| 17:38.28 | _aga_ | witam |
| 17:38.41 | _aga_ | :-) |
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| 17:47.49 | _aga_ | czy jest tu ktoÅ› z polski? |
| 17:49.34 | tstaerk | _aga_, try kde-pl - maybe it exists |
| 17:49.50 | tstaerk | _aga_, or was it chinese ? |
| 17:50.43 | _aga_ | thanks |
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| 17:52.57 | _aga_ | hhmmm |
| 17:54.25 | _aga_ | but how? |
| 17:54.45 | DeadS0ul` | g'nite guys |
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| 18:00.10 | Ahmuck | is there a way to change the dpi easliy in kde? does kde have a utility to do this ? |
| 18:00.57 | thiago | Ahmuck: there's no need to change the DPI, so there's no utility or KDE-given way |
| 18:01.14 | thiago | the only reason for changing the DPI is if your X detected your monitor size incorrectly |
| 18:01.31 | thiago | unfortunately, that happens quite often, so you just have to set the monitor sizes in /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 18:01.53 | thiago | section "Monitor", add: DisplaySize xxx yyy (measured in mm) |
| 18:02.49 | Ahmuck | my monitor size is correct, but i would like higher resolution but larger fonts at the resolution which i understand can be achieved by changing the dpi |
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| 18:03.04 | straw | Ahmuck: and here's one way to get the necessary values -> http://personal.nbnet.nb.ca/strawman/X-configs/Xorg-DPI.txt |
| 18:03.05 | thiago | if your monitor size is correct, your DPI is correct too |
| 18:03.08 | thiago | there's no need to change. |
| 18:03.29 | thiago | DPI isn't something to be configured. It's a physical value. |
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| 18:09.06 | Ahmuck | http://www.mozilla.org/unix/dpi.html |
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| 18:12.19 | dreamwave | i'm creating an audio cd with k3b but i still don't understand how the new pregaps work. i want some tracks to be gapless and other to have a couple seconds of silence before they begin. can anyone help me with this? |
| 18:15.36 | Maneit | Just press the track and use "Add silence" to the tracks you want to have a gap after? |
| 18:15.53 | dreamwave | Maneit: thanks. i'll check it out |
| 18:16.11 | Maneit | You have to right click the track btw. |
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| 18:16.32 | Znh | Hmm |
| 18:16.57 | Znh | I just installed kde, but I dont have no idea how to start it. |
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| 18:17.12 | Maneit | Add startkde to ~/.xinitrc |
| 18:17.40 | Znh | ah doh :) |
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| 18:34.17 | *** topic/#kde by eli_zilb -> Latest releases: stable: 3.5. See www.kde.org | KDE FAQ: http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/faq/ | Please don't flood the channel, use a paste service: http://rafb.net/paste | Please state your distribution and KDE version when asking questions | New features in development versions: http://www.canllaith.org/ |
| 18:34.17 | *** topic/#kde by ChanServ -> Latest releases: stable: 3.5. See www.kde.org | KDE FAQ: http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/faq/ | Please don't flood the channel, use a paste service: http://rafb.net/paste | Please state your distribution and KDE version when asking questions | New features in development versions: http://www.canllaith.org/articles.html |
| 18:36.34 | straw | hrm... |
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| 18:40.54 | PaloDeQueso | How long should KAudioCreator take to rip a standard size cd? |
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| 18:44.31 | moleman | i'm using he composite extention with an nvidia 5600, how stable should this be? |
| 18:44.47 | PaloDeQueso | what version of Xorg? |
| 18:44.49 | moleman | cause eventually it slow times and sometimes it just tanks me out of my session |
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| 18:45.29 | moleman | 6.8.2 |
| 18:45.57 | straw | moleman: with xorg 6.8.x and nvidia 7676? rather unstable |
| 18:46.38 | straw | a crash or some form of major annoyance is inevitable |
| 18:46.40 | moleman | is there something mole stable that i could run |
| 18:46.48 | moleman | mole...more |
| 18:46.50 | moleman | heh |
| 18:46.57 | straw | hm, nope |
| 18:47.01 | moleman | weak sauce |
| 18:47.19 | moleman | i'll just log out regularly then |
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| 18:47.43 | moleman | ha ha |
| 18:47.46 | moleman | for some pretty ness |
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| 18:48.06 | straw | whatever floats your boat :) |
| 18:59.30 | Quanttrom | whenever a window is resized it leaves trails..is that a known issue? fix? |
| 19:00.32 | Quanttrom | does anybody else have that problem? |
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| 19:00.51 | comradevik | is kde.org down? |
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| 19:01.27 | titou | hi |
| 19:03.53 | titou | it's quite strange because i just installed KDE 3.5 and konqueror give the wrong thing with the Acid 2 test |
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| 19:08.57 | lasindi | Does anyone here know which configuration file for kdm controls the "-nolisten tcp" option when it calls startx? |
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| 19:10.26 | dim | grep nolisten /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc |
| 19:10.26 | dim | ServerArgsLocal=-nolisten tcp |
| 19:10.43 | dim | lasindi: under debian testing |
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| 19:11.33 | sredna | Usually the file is KDEDIR/share/config/kdm/kdmrc |
| 19:11.47 | sredna | Where KDEDIR is the output of 'kde-config --prefix' |
| 19:12.03 | lasindi | yup, sredna, you're right |
| 19:12.17 | lasindi | (This is Slackware, btw.) |
| 19:12.26 | Quanttrom | kde 3.5 crashed agian...second time today.. |
| 19:12.28 | sredna | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:14.25 | dim | does konversation now offers a vertical separation bar between nicks and dialogs, ala xchat ? |
| 19:16.55 | leeghoofd | dim, yep |
| 19:17.08 | leeghoofd | dim, if I understadn you correct, it does |
| 19:17.19 | dim | oh great |
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| 19:17.45 | dim | which version are you using ? |
| 19:17.54 | _poison | hi =) |
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| 19:18.01 | leeghoofd | dim: 0.18 |
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| 19:19.19 | c-101 | Hi there |
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| 19:31.00 | Oleg_ | when for example, I wanna download wmv posted on yousendit.com, konqueror offers me to save it with the name "attachment" instead of "file.wmv" |
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| 19:31.11 | Oleg_ | that's annoying |
| 19:32.37 | sredna | Oleg_: The webserver have to suggest a name for konqueror. Those names are used if you click the link, but not if you drop it (which I consider a bug) |
| 19:32.54 | Oleg_ | ok |
| 19:34.48 | Oleg_ | but I like the fact konqueror adds the *.part extension to partially downloaded files |
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| 19:36.58 | Otis | is it possible to configure a desktop (menus, icons) template for new users ? |
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| 19:37.20 | gnd | hello |
| 19:37.34 | gnd | I used to have OSS but now I recompiled the kernel with ALSA |
| 19:37.40 | gnd | but now in kde there is no sound |
| 19:37.57 | sredna | gnd: Check your KDE sound configuration |
| 19:38.25 | gnd | I did try that |
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| 19:38.32 | gnd | but I got no sound |
| 19:38.35 | Theory_ | do other apps have sound? |
| 19:38.41 | gnd | nothing has sound |
| 19:38.43 | Theory_ | have you checked sound levels with alsamixer? |
| 19:38.48 | gnd | I am in the audio group |
| 19:38.48 | Theory_ | that's usually the problem for me |
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| 19:39.38 | gnd | ALSA device list: |
| 19:39.39 | gnd | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:39.43 | gnd | hardware is recognized |
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| 19:39.53 | gnd | alsa is installed |
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| 19:40.07 | Theory_ | run alsamixer from the console |
| 19:40.12 | gnd | ok |
| 19:40.15 | Theory_ | and check the relevant volumes are maxed |
| 19:40.29 | gnd | yes |
| 19:40.36 | gnd | they are at 84% |
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| 19:41.29 | Theory_ | still from the console, try playing something with alsaplayer -o alsa |
| 19:41.42 | mutronix | hi all |
| 19:41.51 | gnd | does it play mp3? |
| 19:42.10 | sredna | Hi mutronix |
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| 19:42.51 | metalhedd | anyone having problems sending MSN messages with kopete in 3.5? |
| 19:43.11 | metalhedd | I can recieve messages, and send to people who have opened a conversation with me already, but I cannot initiate a conversation |
| 19:43.16 | gnd | what packages do I have to have installed in order for alsa to work? |
| 19:43.32 | gnd | I have just alsa-base, alsa-oss and alsa-utils |
| 19:44.03 | Theory_ | yes, it plays mp3s |
| 19:44.15 | mariux | metalhedd: its a bit slow right after login |
| 19:44.39 | metalhedd | Mariux. this is not slow. this never ever works |
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| 19:45.13 | mariux | but does anyone know if they`ll fix kopetex so that it sends the lateximages as images instead of text to msn-people |
| 19:45.14 | dim | gnd: i just have alsa-base and alsa-utils and it works for me |
| 19:45.39 | mutronix | hmm, looks like I can't build kdelibs-3.5.0 on FC4-x86_64 :( |
| 19:46.06 | mutronix | it fails on kio |
| 19:46.19 | tstaerk|KDE4 | mutronix, is there an error msg ? |
| 19:47.11 | mutronix | tstaerk|KDE4, yes |
| 19:47.12 | gnd | no sound with alsaplayer |
| 19:47.19 | mutronix | /usr/bin/ld: kssl/.libs/libkssl.a(ksslsigners.o): bad reloc symbol index (0xe50067 >= 0x7d) for offset 0x1a0 in section `.text' |
| 19:47.20 | mutronix | kssl/.libs/libkssl.a(ksslsigners.o): could not read symbols: Bad value |
| 19:47.20 | mutronix | collect2: ld returned 1 exit status |
| 19:47.29 | Theory_ | gnd: any complaints from it? |
| 19:47.34 | gnd | no |
| 19:47.49 | Theory_ | hmmm |
| 19:48.28 | gnd | in the control center under sound system I have advanced ... for hardware |
| 19:48.32 | Theory_ | not sure then, but doesn't sound like a KDE issue, so you may be able to find better places to ask |
| 19:49.00 | tstaerk|KDE4 | mutronix, thanks - but I got no idea. |
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| 19:53.42 | sredna | Can any of you run this URL? http://bugs.kde.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=runnamed&namedcmd=Kate%20bugs |
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| 19:54.04 | sredna | (and get a list of kate bugs of course) |
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| 19:54.26 | bUscher-g2 | I cant even open kde.org |
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| 19:54.48 | tstaerk|KDE4 | I cant even open a browser |
| 19:54.59 | bUscher-g2 | O_o |
| 19:55.02 | StevenR | sredna: The query named Kate bugs seems to no longer exist |
| 19:55.29 | tstaerk|KDE4 | sredna, my browser says also The query named Kate bugs seems to no longer exist |
| 19:55.59 | sredna | Hm, so it's personal |
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| 19:56.18 | sredna | Thank you :) |
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| 20:02.14 | mart | hi, anyone know where the help kioslave is? |
| 20:02.26 | mart | (in the 3.5 branch) |
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| 20:06.55 | mart | ah, got it |
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| 20:39.16 | sredna | Intterresting email: |
| 20:39.18 | sredna | Macros error in line: 4 |
| 20:39.18 | sredna | Underfind function |
| 20:39.19 | sredna | :o |
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| 20:58.31 | brix_ | hi |
| 20:59.29 | brix_ | sorry if i'm annoying, but i need to let kde work; i reformatted my home partition and now kde doesn't work |
| 20:59.43 | brix_ | i absolutely need it... i prey you! |
| 21:01.07 | Oleg_ | if u reformatted it, that means you deleted it |
| 21:01.28 | Oleg_ | and if kde was on your home partition, that means it was deleted too |
| 21:01.46 | Oleg_ | but it's probably not there |
| 21:02.11 | lippel | brix_: what exactly is not working? |
| 21:02.30 | brix_ | no, i have a separated partition for /home. since the fs was doing bad, i formatted and backuped, preserving permissinos |
| 21:02.46 | brix_ | lippel: i don't know, i log in through kdm but then nothing happens |
| 21:03.05 | lippel | so you restored the backup? |
| 21:03.10 | brix_ | with my father account's it says DCOP is not running |
| 21:03.32 | tstaerk|KDE4 | brix: I guess, your disk is full. |
| 21:03.40 | brix_ | yes, i restored it, but several directories were owned by root (don't know why) |
| 21:03.54 | brix_ | all first-level directories under $HOME, say |
| 21:04.01 | brix_ | tstaerk|KDE4: no, i have several gb free |
| 21:04.11 | lippel | try "chown -R youruser .kde" then |
| 21:04.16 | brix_ | i did |
| 21:04.18 | tstaerk|KDE4 | brix, please do a df -h and make sure you have enough space on EVERY partition |
| 21:04.35 | brix_ | tstaerk|KDE4: of course i have |
| 21:05.04 | brix_ | minimum is 3 gb in / |
| 21:05.09 | tstaerk|KDE4 | brix_, can you log in on a text console ? |
| 21:05.13 | brix_ | can't i have some diagnostics? |
| 21:05.27 | brix_ | yes, i'm in the console now |
| 21:05.33 | dim | what about logs ? and kde file permissions in /tmp ? |
| 21:05.57 | dim | and which startkde > .xinitrc && startx ? |
| 21:06.19 | brix_ | kde fiel permissions seems ok |
| 21:06.54 | brix_ | \/tmp is rwxrwxrwt, is it correct? |
| 21:07.01 | brix_ | how to do slash in irssi |
| 21:07.09 | brix_ | now i try startkde |
| 21:07.30 | tstaerk|KDE4 | brix_, how did you restore the backup ? cp -p ? |
| 21:07.39 | brix_ | yes |
| 21:07.59 | tstaerk|KDE4 | hm, and if your user ids have changed ? |
| 21:08.08 | brix_ | dim: Xorg log does not say anything, neither kdm |
| 21:08.21 | dim | :( |
| 21:08.25 | brix_ | tstaerk|KDE4: no, it's the same installation, i have only formatted a partition |
| 21:08.32 | tstaerk|KDE4 | ok |
| 21:08.59 | brix_ | dim: i executed the command, lots of errors and .xinitrc is empty |
| 21:09.21 | dim | ans .xserver-errors ? |
| 21:09.33 | brix_ | but startkde should not be run after X is up? |
| 21:09.36 | dim | .xsession-errors sorry |
| 21:09.48 | dim | oh, if kdm is running, try startx -- :1 |
| 21:09.51 | brix_ | no errors in .xsession-errors |
| 21:09.58 | brix_ | no, kdm is down |
| 21:10.13 | brix_ | no X server is up now, should i bring it up and then run startkde? |
| 21:10.35 | tstaerk|KDE4 | brix_, exactly that would be my recommendation. |
| 21:10.35 | dim | it is what does startx, if startkde is in .xinirtc |
| 21:11.03 | tstaerk|KDE4 | X :1 & export DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0; startkde |
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| 21:11.36 | tstaerk|KDE4 | dim, this is not true e.g. for suse linux |
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| 21:12.02 | dim | oh |
| 21:12.18 | brix_ | ah, you meant "echo startkde > .xinitrc" |
| 21:12.20 | brix_ | mmh |
| 21:12.25 | brix_ | now it seems to work :D |
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| 21:12.59 | brix_ | it starteeeeeed |
| 21:13.01 | brix_ | :***************** |
| 21:13.06 | brix_ | me moron! |
| 21:13.13 | brix_ | i LOVE kde! |
| 21:13.21 | brix_ | see you on the graphical side :P |
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| 21:14.17 | petryk | hello |
| 21:14.20 | petryk | i have a problem |
| 21:14.28 | annma | who hasn't? |
| 21:14.36 | dim | ;) |
| 21:14.41 | Theory_ | Well, I have many... |
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| 21:14.55 | petryk | kde write just error while starting |
| 21:15.00 | tstaerk|KDE4 | brix_, have you again restarted your X ? |
| 21:15.16 | brix_ | i have finally started it |
| 21:15.18 | petryk | file protocol charsh ... |
| 21:15.21 | brix_ | before i was on irrsi on console |
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| 21:15.41 | brix_ | thank you |
| 21:15.44 | brix_ | dim, thanks |
| 21:16.06 | dim | you're welcome |
| 21:16.10 | brix_ | i hope not to have to come here for a long time :P |
| 21:16.15 | brix_ | gh |
| 21:16.18 | brix_ | bye bye! |
| 21:16.30 | brix_ | ah, another question... |
| 21:16.41 | tstaerk|KDE4 | brix_, guys like you are giving support here :) |
| 21:17.00 | tstaerk|KDE4 | brix_, I mean, nobody is paid for this here |
| 21:17.06 | brix_ | not developers? ;) |
| 21:17.07 | sredna | Hi annma :) |
| 21:17.13 | brix_ | i know... |
| 21:17.16 | sredna | Lol |
| 21:17.24 | brix_ | :) |
| 21:17.29 | annma | hi sredna |
| 21:17.36 | annma | petryk: kwrite you mean? |
| 21:17.41 | sredna | How is canada in december? |
| 21:17.54 | brix_ | when i quit applications such as kaffeine or kmldonkey, they often stay running using all the cpu time available |
| 21:18.10 | straw | sredna: um, cold |
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| 21:18.27 | sredna | straw: Are you from canada too? |
| 21:18.40 | straw | sredna: yup :) |
| 21:18.42 | pinucset | one think. Does kopete supports messenger microphone? |
| 21:18.51 | tstaerk|KDE4 | brix_, the developers would be more than happy about a bug report |
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| 21:19.30 | brix_ | ok |
| 21:19.38 | petryk | is here any for help me? |
| 21:19.48 | brix_ | petryk, just ask... |
| 21:19.49 | annma | petryk: did it ever work? |
| 21:19.49 | sredna | pinucset: Doesn't that come with the web camera support? |
| 21:20.00 | brix_ | tstaerk|KDE4, what's that program? kbugsomething? |
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| 21:20.32 | tstaerk|KDE4 | brix_, mostly you find it with help|report bugs. |
| 21:20.38 | straw | grr. kdemultimedia won't compile with libtunepimp-0.4.0 |
| 21:20.39 | petryk | brix_: i have problem .. kde write error on every start ... |
| 21:20.54 | brix_ | i'm not expert :\ |
| 21:21.00 | brix_ | thanks tstaerk|KDE4 |
| 21:21.02 | petryk | brix_: it write file protocol crashet while running kdesktop |
| 21:21.13 | tstaerk|KDE4 | brix_, you are, as everyone here is :) |
| 21:21.37 | annma | petryk: did it ever worked or do you have crash since the beginning? |
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| 21:22.30 | petryk | annma: no .. it started , and , on the end of starting process is error , |
| 21:22.45 | annma | petryk: since you installed linux it does that? |
| 21:22.50 | smagy2 | hello folks, i am trying to compile kopete the latest version, the install tips on kde |
| 21:22.53 | petryk | kde work continuesly |
| 21:23.17 | annma | smagy2: what kde version? |
| 21:23.18 | petryk | annma: no ... sience few days of use KDE |
| 21:23.27 | tstaerk|KDE4 | brix_, help|report bug is often in KDE programs, however |
| 21:23.29 | annma | so it worked before, petryk |
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| 21:23.35 | smagy2 | says i need to compile kdebase and kdelibs. however kdebase has a lot of applications that i don't need. could folks recommend how to go about witout having to compile all componets of kdebase |
| 21:23.37 | annma | petryk: try a new user |
| 21:23.43 | smagy2 | annma: 3.5 |
| 21:23.52 | petryk | annma: order profiles on my computar go correct , only my profile is errorusly |
| 21:23.57 | annma | what don't you need in kdebase? |
| 21:24.17 | annma | petryk: so is it kwrite? |
| 21:24.19 | sorush20 | guys what is katapult |
| 21:24.25 | sorush20 | !katapult |
| 21:24.28 | annma | smagy2: what don't you need in kdebase? |
| 21:24.28 | petryk | annma: i have mutch data and settings on KDE |
| 21:24.35 | Columcile | big machine that flings rocks into a castle wall |
| 21:24.47 | tstaerk|KDE4 | smagy2, try DO_NOT_COMPILE="partx" ./configure |
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| 21:25.00 | smagy2 | annma: a lot of it , like konq, kcontrol kdesktop ... and lot more |
| 21:25.06 | straw | hm, /topic's got http://http/rafb.net/paste: |
| 21:25.07 | annma | why not smagy2 ? |
| 21:25.07 | tstaerk|KDE4 | smagy2, however, part Y may depend on part X |
| 21:25.27 | straw | which is broken in my estimation |
| 21:25.34 | petryk | annma: no .. kwrite work good |
| 21:25.44 | petryk | annma: problem is on kdesktop |
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| 21:25.50 | annma | petryk: so what is it that does not work? |
| 21:25.55 | annma | kdesktop |
| 21:25.58 | annma | hmm |
| 21:26.18 | smagy2 | annama: all i need is kopete and nothing else of kde, since i am running gnome :D |
| 21:26.24 | petryk | annma: kdesktop don.t show icons by the start |
| 21:26.32 | annma | petryk: in .kde/share/config/ |
| 21:26.44 | annma | rename kdesktoprc to kdesktoprc.bak |
| 21:26.46 | smagy2 | thanks for the suggestion. will try that |
| 21:26.50 | petryk | annma: after erro "file protocol chash" |
| 21:26.51 | petryk | crash |
| 21:26.56 | annma | petryk: READ what I said |
| 21:27.01 | annma | and then restart |
| 21:27.12 | straw | in fact, pasting http://http/rafb.net/paste: into a firefox window lands me at http://www.microsoft.com/ |
| 21:27.18 | knoppix_ | hi |
| 21:27.20 | straw | ... |
| 21:27.23 | annma | smagy2: you should need first kdelibs |
| 21:27.34 | annma | not sure why kopete would need kdebase |
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| 21:27.38 | Columcile | straw: that's not the url in the topic |
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| 21:27.46 | annma | smagy2: don't your distro ship kopete? |
| 21:27.58 | knoppix_ | hi, i'm italian |
| 21:28.02 | sredna | annma: Kcmshell? |
| 21:28.05 | dim | straw: try it with http://rafb.net/paste ! |
| 21:28.26 | annma | sredna: is kopete config included in kcontrol? |
| 21:28.26 | knoppix_ | !! |
| 21:28.27 | straw | Columcile: it is if i copy it to the clipboard |
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| 21:28.44 | straw | dim: yes, i know |
| 21:28.50 | sredna | smagy2: Are you short on harddisk space? Because the few mb taked up by installling kdebase shouldn't really hurt on a modern PC... |
| 21:28.52 | smagy2 | annma: i am compiling kdelibs and a ./configure on kopete (svn version) shows a requirement of kde headers. i am running debian stable. the latest versions are not part of stable tree. i am trying kopete since i read it has webcam support for yahoo messenger and msn messenger |
| 21:29.06 | straw | i 've seen the internet a few times ;) |
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| 21:29.07 | sredna | annma: No, kopete use kcm modules for it's own config |
| 21:29.11 | annma | amFINISH to compile and install kdelibs |
| 21:29.12 | smagy2 | sredna: it is not question of space. it is question of compile time |
| 21:29.23 | sredna | Ah, that I can appreciate |
| 21:29.34 | annma | smagy2: finish kdelibs before compiling kdelins |
| 21:29.46 | annma | smagy2: finish kdelibs before compiling kopete |
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| 21:30.11 | annma | smagy2: kde heades are kdelibs |
| 21:30.17 | annma | headers |
| 21:30.17 | smagy2 | annma: sure will do. i am looking into the dependecy is has in parts of kdebase. |
| 21:30.19 | Columcile | straw: http://rafb.net/paste - that's what I copied from the topic |
| 21:30.33 | annma | smagy2: how do you see that? |
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| 21:30.37 | tstaerk|KDE4 | smagy2, do not forget you need arts to compile kdelibs. |
| 21:30.42 | straw | Columcile: hm, what irc client? |
| 21:30.45 | Columcile | irssi |
| 21:30.49 | Columcile | is there another? |
| 21:30.51 | smagy2 | annma: i dunno, i have to start looking |
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| 21:30.58 | annma | smagy2: I doubt it |
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| 21:31.07 | smagy2 | tstaerk: yes i did compile arts :) |
| 21:31.08 | straw | Columcile: heh. i've got konversation |
| 21:31.14 | annma | smagy2: fifnih kde libs and make install |
| 21:31.21 | annma | smagy2: then set KDEDIR |
| 21:31.22 | smagy2 | annma: cool. |
| 21:31.34 | annma | then configure kopete and look at configure output |
| 21:31.38 | luksan | how come kdeutils doesn't build kcalc ? |
| 21:31.46 | annma | don't forget to set KDEDIR or KDEDIRS |
| 21:31.53 | annma | luksan: you miss gmp |
| 21:31.57 | annma | probably |
| 21:32.03 | smagy2 | annama: yeah i saw that in the readme that it was a common mistake |
| 21:32.05 | annma | luksan: look in config.log |
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| 21:32.16 | smagy2 | wait it was in INSTALL i guess |
| 21:32.39 | luksan | annma: yes, that's it |
| 21:32.46 | smagy2 | annama: thanks a bunch ! :) |
| 21:32.59 | annma | luksan: installl from your distro + devel package and reconfigure |
| 21:33.22 | luksan | annma: doing |
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| 21:35.08 | straw | http://rafb.net/paste/results/51D34p26.html <- kdemultimedia fails to compile with /libtunepimp-0.4.0 |
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| 21:35.54 | straw | i suppose i should try the most recent libmusicbrainz |
| 21:36.08 | Enchanter_tim | hello, i have a question about the kde helpcenter. Is is possible to "misuse" it for other documents? |
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| 21:36.23 | annma | straw: ddi you look at juK requirements? |
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| 21:36.59 | straw | annma: i was going to earlier, but kde.org wouldn't respomd to me |
| 21:37.16 | Enchanter_tim | what I basically want is to use it as a search app for ebooks and the like. If I need to convert my docs to the supported (semi) xml format, so be it |
| 21:37.49 | straw | annma: i seem to have met all the requirements for ./configure |
| 21:38.04 | Arafangion | Enchanter_tim: I just use grep :) |
| 21:38.16 | annma | straw: what distro does libtunepimp-0.4.0 come from? |
| 21:38.25 | annma | the error is in there, not in Juk |
| 21:38.27 | Enchanter_tim | Arafangion: with 30Gb of documents that is a bit hard ;) |
| 21:38.40 | straw | annma: i've compiled from source |
| 21:38.51 | annma | straw: maybe you misse something |
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| 21:38.55 | Enchanter_tim | ive been thinking of using swish-e or ht://dig, but i really would want a desktop app |
| 21:39.02 | Arafangion | Enchanter_tim: Easier than conversion. |
| 21:39.19 | straw | annma: that's the answer i was after anyway. whose fault it was :) |
| 21:39.20 | annma | straw: opt/kde-3.5/include/tunepimp/tp_c.h:639: error: too few arguments to function 'int tp_AddFile(void*, const char*, int)' |
| 21:39.24 | Enchanter_tim | heh, but its so pretty ;) |
| 21:39.36 | annma | the error is not in kde code, straw |
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| 21:40.41 | GSF | hi |
| 21:40.47 | GSF | does anyone use kdocker? |
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| 22:02.10 | straw | sigh. kdemultimedia wants libtunepimp-0.3.x, which won't build :) |
| 22:02.28 | thiago | then don't use it |
| 22:02.33 | thiago | it's an optional dependency |
| 22:03.00 | annma | straw: gentoo? |
| 22:03.09 | straw | thiago: done |
| 22:03.16 | straw | annma: no no |
| 22:03.20 | straw | fedora |
| 22:03.42 | annma | why don't you use libtunepimp form fedora? |
| 22:03.49 | annma | form/from |
| 22:04.17 | straw | it's not provided |
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| 22:06.34 | annma | oh, damn |
| 22:06.52 | straw | oh well, no big deal |
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| 22:19.00 | nescius | whats with kde.org? |
| 22:19.19 | annma | the server is down |
| 22:19.26 | annma | it happens unfortunately |
| 22:19.42 | nescius | the dot.kde.org has its rdf feed on it |
| 22:19.58 | annma | well yes, so? |
| 22:20.00 | nescius | it happens quite often now |
| 22:20.18 | annma | it's the first time in ages kde.org is down |
| 22:20.28 | annma | you can donate a server though |
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| 22:21.23 | nescius | i wish, but i can barelly buy something to eat |
| 22:21.48 | nescius | I WANT MY NEWS! :-) |
| 22:21.58 | annma | go to the dot |
| 22:22.08 | nescius | thanks all for the K |
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| 22:26.36 | CVirus | hello ? |
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| 22:28.07 | CVirus | guys when I start a new session for KDE .. the sound server cant be initialized in it as it is used by the first session .. is there a work round for this ?! |
| 22:28.12 | Steve^ | Hey, how can I seperate the Documents bar from the main window in the latest version of Kate? |
| 22:28.18 | Steve^ | It was easy before, but now it doesn't work |
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| 22:29.56 | benJIman | Steve^: not sure you can any more |
| 22:30.07 | benJIman | you can move to another side |
| 22:30.09 | Steve^ | Why remove that functionality? |
| 22:30.38 | annma | the code changed |
| 22:30.41 | Steve^ | It was slightly annoying before as it didn't shift focus on document selection, but I prefer a window to a bar |
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| 22:31.59 | Steve^ | and what exactly does make persistant do? |
| 22:32.10 | benJIman | stops it from getting autohidden I think |
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| 22:35.13 | SJr|Tecra | Question Why when I'm running KDE can a large amount of OpenGL Screensavers not switch to fullscreen |
| 22:35.35 | annma | hmm? |
| 22:35.50 | annma | SJr|Tecra: screenshot? |
| 22:35.52 | SJr|Tecra | Like for instance |
| 22:35.56 | SJr|Tecra | fireworkx |
| 22:36.02 | SJr|Tecra | if I run it from the command line with -root |
| 22:36.10 | SJr|Tecra | theres nothing to take a screenshot of? |
| 22:36.41 | SJr|Tecra | When I try to test the screensaver in the ScreenSaver applet, or if I try to run it manually with -root (full screen) nothing is displayed |
| 22:36.48 | SJr|Tecra | IN the screenshots or if I run with -root it is displayed in a window |
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| 22:36.53 | SJr|Tecra | if I login with twm |
| 22:37.02 | SJr|Tecra | I just get a blank black screen |
| 22:37.07 | SJr|Tecra | when I try |
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| 22:45.05 | pinucset | kopete has a webcam for msn and yahoo, but supports microphone? |
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| 22:45.55 | praseodym | how do I check if a khtml page has plugins loaded from within the khtml class (c++)? |
| 22:47.12 | Xordan | Hi, I'm trying to get kde menu items added by my installer, but they keep ending up in the lost&found folder. How can I create the folder games->PlaneShift and put all the menu items in there? |
| 22:47.29 | Xordan | A example of one of my menu items is: http://rafb.net/paste/results/orBDE944.html |
| 22:48.58 | Columcile | is there a good way to duplicate a kde config from one machine onto another? |
| 22:49.10 | annma | copy .kde over |
| 22:49.21 | annma | or .kde/share/ |
| 22:49.26 | mobtek | and pray :) |
| 22:49.33 | oGALAXYo | the entire ,kde dir would be better |
| 22:49.34 | annma | and pray, yes! |
| 22:49.36 | oGALAXYo | .kde |
| 22:49.43 | annma | oGALAXYo: depends |
| 22:49.45 | mobtek | annma: it works most of the time |
| 22:50.23 | Columcile | well, other than that :P |
| 22:50.41 | Columcile | I'd considered that, didn't know if there might be some tool to sync the config on two computers or some such |
| 22:50.53 | oGALAXYo | there is |
| 22:50.56 | annma | tools better than copy? |
| 22:51.03 | oGALAXYo | tar cfjv konfig.tar.bz2 .kde |
| 22:51.10 | oGALAXYo | and on the other machine |
| 22:51.15 | oGALAXYo | tar xfjv konfig.tar.bz2 |
| 22:51.16 | oGALAXYo | :) |
| 22:51.21 | cpw | that's not posix compliant! |
| 22:51.27 | Columcile | ;P |
| 22:51.33 | cpw | tar xjvf konfig.tar.gz2! |
| 22:51.42 | annma | gz2? |
| 22:51.46 | Columcile | always leave out v |
| 22:52.00 | mobtek | annma: it's new :P |
| 22:52.05 | annma | oh ok |
| 22:52.06 | cpw | well, it's posix compliant now at least :P... |
| 22:52.19 | cpw | The extension is another story. |
| 22:52.24 | oGALAXYo | there's even a newer one |
| 22:52.26 | mshade | Columcile, why leave out the v? |
| 22:52.26 | oGALAXYo | .kd3 |
| 22:52.33 | oGALAXYo | konfig.kd3 |
| 22:52.36 | mobtek | was even |
| 22:52.39 | oGALAXYo | that's a super format |
| 22:52.44 | annma | mobtek: I guessed |
| 22:52.46 | oGALAXYo | 100% compression |
| 22:52.54 | annma | mobtek: I am modern |
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| 22:53.07 | Columcile | mshade: I already know what's going to go in it |
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| 22:53.12 | cpw | isn't 100% compression impossible? |
| 22:53.23 | StevenR | cpw: yes |
| 22:53.30 | oGALAXYo | cpw: :) |
| 22:53.44 | oGALAXYo | i recall when i wrote my first run by one cruncher on the amiga using 68k asm |
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| 23:14.58 | Knowerrors | Anybody here using 3.5 yet? |
| 23:15.39 | tstaerk|KDE4 | no, no longer ;) |
| 23:16.29 | annma | Knowerrors: yes |
| 23:16.34 | annma | of course |
| 23:16.55 | Knowerrors | I upgraded to it, have problems with removable media... |
| 23:17.07 | Knowerrors | for one thing, they don't automount |
| 23:17.07 | annma | what problems? |
| 23:17.23 | tstaerk|KDE4 | Knowerrors, same with me. I have opened a bug about that. |
| 23:17.28 | annma | how come? |
| 23:17.49 | annma | kde does not automount |
| 23:17.49 | Knowerrors | to mount, you have to click on the "open in new window" option in the notification window |
| 23:18.07 | Knowerrors | which doesn't open up the media itself to browse, but only mounts it |
| 23:18.16 | tstaerk|KDE4 | kcontrol -> desktop -> behavior -> device icons seems to be broken :( |
| 23:19.00 | Knowerrors | hmm, that works for me... |
| 23:19.25 | Knowerrors | annma: kde should automount if you want it to, I had that feature in kde 3.4 working |
| 23:19.32 | Knowerrors | used ivman |
| 23:19.42 | annma | tstaerk|KDE4: broken in kde4? |
| 23:19.49 | Knowerrors | now ivman conflicts with kde 3.5 feature of notifications |
| 23:19.56 | tstaerk|KDE4 | annma, no, in 3.5. |
| 23:20.10 | tstaerk|KDE4 | I do not report errors in KDE 4 |
| 23:20.59 | annma | kcontrol works well here for device icons |
| 23:21.10 | annma | what do you find broken? |
| 23:21.19 | Knowerrors | the new window kde opens for the usb media is :/media if I want to browse it, I have go to /media |
| 23:21.31 | tstaerk|KDE4 | annma, I plug in my usb disc and it does not appear as device icon. |
| 23:22.39 | Knowerrors | yeah, same here, even though I have that option enabled to show it on desktop |
| 23:22.40 | annma | last time I tried it worked here with my Sandisk |
| 23:23.03 | tstaerk|KDE4 | san=storage area network ? |
| 23:23.51 | annma | Sandisk == TM |
| 23:24.01 | annma | a thing where you put a flashcard |
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| 23:26.35 | Knowerrors | Im using a smart media card, and it mounts in konq as media:/sda1 , but I can only access it by browsing to /media/sda1 |
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| 23:29.07 | Knowerrors | tstaerk|KDE4: you know of a way to control what kde 3.5 automounts? |
| 23:29.45 | tstaerk|KDE4 | Knowerrors, sorry, no |
| 23:30.27 | Knowerrors | we have to wait 6-8 weeks for 3.5.1 :( |
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| 23:33.08 | poimen | someone here kwons how to get the audio output of Videos encoded with aac audio encoder?? |
| 23:33.10 | poimen | I installed faad2 and faad and nothing :( |
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| 23:38.56 | harry_ | having issues with viewing manpages in konqueror |
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| 23:39.42 | harry_ | it's not finding manpages that i believe are in my system |
| 23:41.38 | harry_ | it will display themfine if i do man:<full path to man page> |
| 23:42.09 | oGALAXYo | harry_: self compiled system ? |
| 23:42.18 | harry_ | mandrake 2006 |
| 23:42.34 | harry_ | this worked right, once upon a time |
| 23:42.46 | oGALAXYo | export MANPATH="/usr/man:/usr/local/man:/usr/X11R6/man:/usr/lib/openjade/man:/usr/lib/openssl/man:/usr/lib/samba/man:/usr/lib/teTeX/man:${MANPATH}" |
| 23:42.52 | oGALAXYo | i have that in my /etc/profile |
| 23:42.52 | oGALAXYo | file |
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| 23:46.13 | harry_ | will kde need to be restarted? |
| 23:46.33 | oGALAXYo | yes most likely |
| 23:46.45 | oGALAXYo | you need to even logout of linux and login again. |
| 23:46.50 | oGALAXYo | worst case reboot |
| 23:47.01 | harry_ | i didnt want to hear that |
| 23:47.01 | gregday | ooh, Gwenview is nice |
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| 23:49.53 | stillbourne | Where is the file that stores the information in the "K" menu? |
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| 23:51.56 | harry_ | no change |
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| 23:58.24 | ipso_ | Anyone know why when I run kwalletmanager it just hangs? And nothing comes up? Its causing me a lot of grief, as several KDE apps also hang because they are waiting for a response from the wallet. If I run kwalletmanager as root, it works fine, but not as my regular user. |
