| 00:00.18 | Knowerrors | monitors memory, cpu, net activity etc using colored bars... |
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| 00:03.06 | DirkGently | Knowerrors: ksysmon? |
| 00:04.07 | Knowerrors | DirkGently: couldn't find that in my repositories :( |
| 00:05.15 | DirkGently | it's called System Monitor |
| 00:13.07 | dev1k | how can I minimize all the windows at once in kde? |
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| 00:14.51 | straw | dev1k: add the Desktop Access button to your panel (kicker) |
| 00:14.51 | we2by | can't you have window shadow with ati cards? |
| 00:15.39 | dev1k | awesome, thanks a lot |
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| 00:36.16 | peratu | Hi. I'm using konqueror 3.5, but I don't find the adblock option. Where is it? |
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| 00:40.03 | DirkGently | Knowerrors: ktimemon sorry |
| 00:40.04 | Columcille | peratu: I see it in the configure konqueror screen |
| 00:40.10 | radfoj | peratu: Konqueror > Settings > Adblock |
| 00:40.30 | xz | peratu: settings->configure konqueror->adblock filters |
| 00:41.49 | Knowerrors | DirkGently: ok, thx |
| 00:42.03 | peratu | I don't have the Adblock option. |
| 00:43.13 | Inv1s1ble | where is the Trash directory that KDE uses? |
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| 00:45.09 | xz | Inv1s1ble: ~/.local/share/Trash maybe |
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| 00:45.44 | xz | Inv1s1ble: (use find to find things called trash: find ~ -iname "*trash*") |
| 00:46.00 | Inv1s1ble | I'm not actually in KD3 |
| 00:46.05 | Inv1s1ble | err.KD3 |
| 00:46.13 | Inv1s1ble | I'm in Gnome but I deleted something using K3B :) |
| 00:47.00 | xz | Inv1s1ble: do you have that directory ^ ? is it in there? you could also use find to search for the filename of the tihng you deleted |
| 00:47.30 | Inv1s1ble | crap..yea I should have done that |
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| 00:52.24 | darkcmd | hi, are there any qt themes that look like the gtk2 theme when you don't set one.... |
| 00:53.29 | radome | anyone using Konqueror successfully with comcast Web Mail Client? My installation doesn't do well with the CONTENT="0; URL=/wmc/v/wmgoto" thing. If I manually add it to the http://mailcenter.comcast.net/ It works. Whats up? |
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| 00:55.36 | Eno_ | where can i find dcop info for kmix? i'm trying to configre a khotkeys shortcut to control volume and can't find another way to do this |
| 00:56.21 | xz | darkcmd: qtcurve is supposed to fix up both i think |
| 00:56.49 | Eno_ | nm, i found a page |
| 00:56.53 | Eno_ | http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdemultimedia/kmix/dcop-examples.html |
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| 00:57.10 | darkcmd | xz: but that makes it the bluecurve theme, which I do not like |
| 00:57.26 | darkcmd | is the a QT3/4 equal to the KDE2 default theme |
| 00:59.45 | Eno_ | dcop kmix Mixer0 increaseVolume 0 |
| 00:59.46 | Eno_ | nice |
| 01:00.35 | firephoto | Eno, you can right click on the mixer bars in kmix and assigne short cuts |
| 01:00.54 | Eno_ | oh... |
| 01:01.01 | Eno_ | hehe |
| 01:01.03 | Eno_ | thanks |
| 01:01.05 | firephoto | it took me a year to figure that one out. |
| 01:01.11 | Eno_ | at least i learned a little about dcop :) |
| 01:01.14 | Eno_ | and how cool it is :) |
| 01:01.19 | firephoto | yeah, dcop is handy. |
| 01:04.01 | Eno_ | but yeah... i'd never think of right clicking there |
| 01:04.06 | Eno_ | but it works now, thanks :) |
| 01:04.42 | darkcmd | http://www.kde.org/screenshots/images/1152x864/kde300-snapshot3-1152x864.jpg |
| 01:04.45 | darkcmd | what theme is this? |
| 01:06.37 | mobtek | crap? |
| 01:06.55 | darkcmd | no |
| 01:07.03 | darkcmd | I'm serious |
| 01:07.05 | mobtek | yessss |
| 01:07.10 | mobtek | oh :) |
| 01:07.29 | mobtek | the window dec or the style? |
| 01:07.37 | darkcmd | style |
| 01:08.03 | mobtek | motif? |
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| 01:09.01 | firephoto | it just the original keramik isn't it? kde 3.0 ? maybe keramik wasn't around then... |
| 01:09.16 | mobtek | nah don't think it was |
| 01:09.52 | firephoto | oh, i see the title bars are short.... |
| 01:09.52 | ftzdomin1 | does KDE have the same sort of segfaults related to hyperthreading that Amarok used to? it seems like all k* apps segfault for me after a couple hours |
| 01:10.40 | ftzdomin1 | the first thing i see in the segfault has something to do with a thread lib |
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| 01:13.50 | drivamgr2006 | Thiago, ya still here??? |
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| 01:14.55 | darkcmd | man.. I'm sick of the inconsistancies between GTK and QT |
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| 01:19.27 | Knowerrors | anybody use kcheckgmail? |
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| 01:22.13 | Dhraakellian | I used to |
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| 01:28.38 | Khaytsus | I just updated to 3.5.0 using kde-redhat, and my panel only unhides in the bottom-left corner of the screen. Is this normal? The kcontrol panel (kcmshell panel) has nothing in the window |
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| 01:35.19 | unholy | I'm running mandriva2006, and kde dies on me from time to time. It usually happens when I click on the icon in the system tray, but it can just die on its own initiative too. Has anyone else experienced this, or know what the problem could be? |
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| 01:39.44 | Khaytsus | Any suggestions? It's rather weird |
| 01:40.07 | Knowerrors | is there any plugin or kde addon to have a system tray hide button? or autohide inactive? |
| 01:40.33 | Khaytsus | I'm not finding any of the preferences for autohide, the panel control is empty |
| 01:41.22 | Khaytsus | The kcontrol Desktop Panels display is blank |
| 01:42.04 | Khaytsus | kcmshell panel doesn't show any errors or anything |
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| 01:43.20 | Knowerrors | Khaytsus: right click on k panel, go to configure, hiding |
| 01:43.31 | rmeeh | 7LEAVE |
| 01:43.36 | Knowerrors | set your preferences for hide/show/autohide there |
| 01:43.42 | Khaytsus | It's blank :( |
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| 01:44.15 | Khaytsus | Actually if I right-click on the panel I get the "configure the panel taskbar" Taskbar config, none other |
| 01:44.19 | Netslayer | someone (i'm too lazy) should report this bug or bad design: add the address bar to your kicker and type in www.google.com, the kicker will freeze. for starters it uses the kickers thread, and it doesn't come back. |
| 01:44.31 | Netslayer | i'm running 3.5.0 |
| 01:44.45 | Netslayer | (run command applet) |
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| 01:46.16 | Khaytsus | Maybe the kde-redhat build is bad. Maybe be an update in a few days, it's not a huge issue. I didn't think it'd be a KDE proper issue. |
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| 02:17.17 | dev1k | is there anyway I can make the system tray icons smaller... and leave the rest the same size |
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| 02:23.52 | Gumby | can anyone tell me what file has the settings for kdm. the background behind my user list is completely white, yet my page background is a different color. |
| 02:24.12 | Gumby | so I have a big white rectangle behind my user list in kdm and the rest of the page look as it should |
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| 02:25.02 | lun4tic | hi |
| 02:25.05 | lun4tic | somebody there? |
| 02:25.41 | Ringwraith` | a lunatic is not available to answer your call. |
| 02:28.13 | lun4tic | Ringwraith`, just askin cause here it's 3:30 in the mornin :) |
| 02:28.21 | xz | 1.30pm here |
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| 02:31.41 | lun4tic | does someone know how to change the animated logo in konqueror? i still have the old one with the "3d gear" on white ground and want the new one that i've seen which looks like the kde 3.4 logo |
| 02:31.49 | lun4tic | where can i get that one? |
| 02:32.14 | lun4tic | i have kde 3.4.3 |
| 02:33.13 | lun4tic | in german it says "animiertes logo", i fon't know what it is called in the english kde version |
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| 02:38.16 | Walzmyn | can K make windows transparent? |
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| 02:39.16 | snowgeese | trying to install superkaramba |
| 02:39.47 | Walzmyn | I have that, all it does is help you instal themes |
| 02:40.09 | snowgeese | how do install that |
| 02:40.20 | snowgeese | i want weather thing here |
| 02:40.21 | Columcille | snowgeese: what version of kde? |
| 02:40.23 | Walzmyn | what distro are you useing? |
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| 02:40.31 | snowgeese | 3.4 i think |
| 02:40.36 | Columcille | what distro? |
| 02:40.48 | snowgeese | how i tell\ |
| 02:40.58 | Walzmyn | where did you download it from? |
| 02:40.58 | snowgeese | debian |
| 02:41.10 | snowgeese | it came with debain |
| 02:41.22 | Walzmyn | ahh, just grab the package for superkaramba out of kpackage |
| 02:42.25 | lun4tic | found it on kde-look.org |
| 02:42.39 | lun4tic | seems like they call those thingys "throbber" :D |
| 02:43.30 | snowgeese | i cant find it in kde |
| 02:44.02 | Walzmyn | you'll have to instal is useing kpackage or synaptic |
| 02:44.20 | Walzmyn | open kpackage and search for superkaramba |
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| 02:48.59 | Walzmyn | snowgeese, haveing any luck? |
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| 02:50.06 | drivamgr2006 | Sorry thiago - I'm enquiring in distro specific channel now about my problem. |
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| 02:55.05 | snowgeese | i dont have super karba packadge on ehre |
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| 02:59.44 | Walzmyn | and your useing debian? |
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| 03:01.48 | Walzmyn | snowgeese, you there? |
| 03:01.51 | scottn | Does anyone know how to start a new konsole instance from bash via dcop and get it's instance id back so that the script can control the created instance? |
| 03:01.54 | snowgeese | yeah |
| 03:02.10 | snowgeese | tried it now way to get it |
| 03:02.20 | snowgeese | so i gues ii can get it |
| 03:02.33 | Walzmyn | you did not see superkaramba when you searched for it? |
| 03:02.41 | snowgeese | yeah |
| 03:02.55 | snowgeese | its somepacage hidden |
| 03:03.09 | Walzmyn | ok, click on "settings" and select "configure kpackage" |
| 03:03.18 | Theory_ | scottn: you can get its pid right? |
| 03:03.22 | Walzmyn | then make sure the debian respository is selected |
| 03:03.55 | snowgeese | were do i do that |
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| 03:04.31 | Walzmyn | at the top of kpackage, the menu bar - select "settings" |
| 03:04.42 | Walzmyn | then hit "configure kpackage" |
| 03:05.16 | Walzmyn | there'll be a list of repositories (sp) make sure the debian one is selected. In fact, unselect anything else |
| 03:05.31 | snowgeese | ok |
| 03:05.50 | scottn | Theory_: In principle yet. But if I have three or four sessions running how do I know the pid is the one of the newly created one. I feel I'm missing something really obvious here but I can't see the wood for the trees :-( |
| 03:06.19 | Theory_ | when you say new konsole instance |
| 03:06.21 | snowgeese | no what |
| 03:06.23 | Theory_ | do you mean as in a new copy of konsole |
| 03:06.25 | Theory_ | or a new tab? |
| 03:06.28 | Walzmyn | search again |
| 03:06.41 | scottn | New copy of konsole. A new tab I know how to handle. |
| 03:07.43 | Khaytsus | SOmeone on 3.5, does right-click on KMenu, KMenuEdit work? |
| 03:07.58 | snowgeese | says pack not found |
| 03:08.23 | Walzmyn | something is wrong here, because I just did all that I told you to and it popped right up |
| 03:08.26 | Theory_ | scottn: |
| 03:08.31 | Theory_ | konsole & |
| 03:08.36 | Theory_ | dcop konsole-$! |
| 03:08.49 | snowgeese | what else can i doo |
| 03:09.10 | Walzmyn | At the top of kpackage, do you have the tap "all" selected? |
| 03:09.48 | snowgeese | yes |
| 03:09.57 | scottn | Thanks Theory_. It was the $! I was missing :-( I should have know that but as I said sometimes you can't see the wood for the trees :-( |
| 03:10.35 | Walzmyn | ok, only other thing I know to try is apt-get |
| 03:10.42 | Walzmyn | open a terminal |
| 03:10.55 | snowgeese | in apt-get it says refered to as another packagee |
| 03:11.11 | snowgeese | maybe il try this apt-get uninstall |
| 03:11.27 | Walzmyn | ok, you're famliar with apt-get, sorry. |
| 03:11.39 | Walzmyn | refered to as another package? you mean it's missing a depencency? |
| 03:11.49 | snowgeese | guess so |
| 03:12.01 | Walzmyn | do you have regular karamba installed? |
| 03:13.58 | snowgeese | maybe how do i look for that |
| 03:15.35 | Walzmyn | easiest way would be in the menu. Super and regular karamba are exclusive. uninstalling regular might help |
| 03:16.28 | snowgeese | i added that karaba rebular one going try apt get superkarambar |
| 03:17.13 | Walzmyn | k |
| 03:18.05 | snowgeese | stil refered to another package and woint install |
| 03:18.30 | Ringwraith` | well point at it |
| 03:18.54 | Walzmyn | what is the missing package? |
| 03:19.51 | snowgeese | i dont have idea |
| 03:19.58 | snowgeese | il try udate maybe |
| 03:20.02 | Walzmyn | it dosn't tell you? |
| 03:20.13 | snowgeese | no |
| 03:20.20 | Walzmyn | hmm |
| 03:22.03 | snowgeese | thanks i gave up |
| 03:22.25 | Walzmyn | sorry bud |
| 03:22.42 | Walzmyn | I'm runnig MEPIS which is a branch of debian and i had no trouble with installing it |
| 03:22.46 | snowgeese | no sense tying al night |
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| 03:22.59 | snowgeese | someting aint right |
| 03:23.12 | snowgeese | il ask in ebian room |
| 03:23.15 | snowgeese | i guess |
| 03:23.26 | snowgeese | take care |
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| 03:25.54 | [MuttleY] | hi, I'm having problems with artsd on kde 3.5. Can anyone help me? |
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| 03:28.40 | Ze_M | [MuttleY]: please change ur nick |
| 03:29.01 | Ze_M | can u please do rpm -qa|grep arts |
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| 03:30.56 | RabugentO | my problem is the same bug on kde beta |
| 03:30.57 | Ze_M | do u want me to help u? |
| 03:31.11 | Khaytsus | You probably need to say what the problem IS. |
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| 03:31.53 | RabugentO | the arts daemon can't exec on kde loading |
| 03:31.54 | Ringwraith` | Khaytsus, or was or will be in a moment |
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| 03:32.05 | dev1k | hi again |
| 03:32.07 | Ze_M | RabugentO: im stil waiting for u paste what i ask |
| 03:32.08 | Gumby | does anyone here know anything about kdm? I am trying to figure out why the background behind my user list is straight white. Ive seen the same theme I am using have a transparent background behind its userlist so the actual page background is show. (or maybe its just a background behind the userlist that happens to match the page background) |
| 03:32.38 | Gumby | hopefully that makes sense |
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| 03:33.01 | Ze_M | Gumby: did u changed the background or just installed kdebase? if u just installed kde from cooker i can explain u why |
| 03:33.37 | Gumby | Ze_M: nope, not cooker. its kde3.5 on gentoo. I changed the background of kdm as well as the splash background |
| 03:33.56 | Gumby | but the userlist is just a big white rectangle with the usernames and icons on top of it |
| 03:34.05 | Ze_M | Gumby: the desktop theme differs from kdm background |
| 03:34.16 | Ze_M | Gumby: ah yes |
| 03:34.23 | Ze_M | Gumby: that is due to kdm |
| 03:34.29 | Gumby | any way to fix that? |
| 03:34.46 | Ze_M | u have a bad kdm config, maybe just regenerate it, but not always work |
| 03:35.06 | Ze_M | i would advise you to catch a kdmrc file from a previous instal and replace it |
| 03:35.16 | Gumby | ok, I'll give that a go. thx |
| 03:35.17 | Ze_M | or edit kdmrc |
| 03:36.13 | Ze_M | RabugentO: whats ur distro? |
| 03:36.21 | RabugentO | slack |
| 03:36.34 | Ze_M | my apologies abour rpm, i miss confused |
| 03:37.14 | Ze_M | RabugentO: be more specific about the arts prob, there is a recent prob about mcop but dont know if thats ur case |
| 03:37.55 | RabugentO | wait a minute |
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| 03:40.29 | RabugentO | #Ze_M my problem is the same that page http://lists.suse.com/archive/suse-linux-e/2005-Nov/3834.html |
| 03:42.07 | RabugentO | suse users have the same problem :( |
| 03:42.36 | Ze_M | RabugentO: ill have a look |
| 03:43.57 | Gumby | Ze_M: hrm, unfortunately no luck |
| 03:44.01 | Khaytsus | Ze_M: If you try to launch Menu Editor from right-click on KMenu, does it work? |
| 03:44.13 | Gumby | I'll try grab the rc from the distro that it works on |
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| 03:44.24 | Ze_M | RabugentO: like you theres a libmcop* related crash, so i advise to update ur arts in svn branch_3.5 but remember dont put artswrapper or ull have a big annoyng prob about appearing every 5 secs a window error about mcop dir creation |
| 03:45.19 | Ze_M | Khaytsus: mine works but i do kde rpms for mandriva and as u know they xdg based and so need some patches, so in my case it runs menudrake |
| 03:45.54 | RabugentO | OK. thanks |
| 03:46.13 | Khaytsus | Alrighty. |
| 03:46.23 | Ze_M | no prob |
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| 03:47.36 | Ze_M | RabugentO: i wanted to say to dont put artswrapper setuid |
| 03:48.21 | RabugentO | OK, I understand |
| 03:48.40 | RabugentO | thank you |
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| 03:58.54 | TheBeast | hello |
| 03:59.42 | TheBeast | kopete sees my webcam without any kind of problems. however Yahoo Messenger users cannot see it. do you think it's actually possible to broadcast? |
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| 04:11.31 | dev1k | is it possible, in kde to make the quick start icons smaller? |
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| 04:14.16 | Ze_M | dev1k: smaller than what? |
| 04:14.29 | Ze_M | dev1k: you know u can change icon sizes, right? |
| 04:14.45 | Ze_M | the minimum is 16x16 than is smaller enough |
| 04:14.50 | dev1k | they're way to big.. I want to have 6 on there... can I change just those though, I want the progam task buttomns to stay the same |
| 04:15.16 | Ze_M | dev1k: u can right click and see option u know? |
| 04:15.44 | dev1k | I know.. but then it makes everything small |
| 04:15.51 | Ze_M | so ? |
| 04:16.02 | dev1k | I just want the program buttons small so I can get more on there |
| 04:16.26 | Ze_M | didnt u just said " I know.. but then it makes everything small" ? |
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| 04:16.46 | dev1k | I don;t want everything small.. just the buttons on the left |
| 04:16.52 | DaSkreech | Does anyone know about Knowledge? |
| 04:16.59 | Ze_M | buttons on left??? |
| 04:17.24 | dev1k | yeah, kmenu, terminal, home, kontact |
| 04:17.47 | Ze_M | if u talking about panel u can only resize panel thats what matters, u cant resize ones and others not |
| 04:17.50 | Ze_M | makes no sense |
| 04:18.37 | Ze_M | knowledge??? |
| 04:18.43 | Ze_M | knowledge of wat? |
| 04:18.49 | DaSkreech | Knowledge |
| 04:18.53 | DaSkreech | the KDE4 app |
| 04:19.08 | Ze_M | what does it have? |
| 04:19.14 | DaSkreech | an offline cache for Wikipedia? |
| 04:19.17 | dev1k | I'd like to have 8-10 quick program launches.... but I don't want them reaching half way across the screen |
| 04:19.36 | Ze_M | dev1k: already answered you |
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| 04:19.58 | dev1k | so its all or nothing.. I can just shrink one set of them |
| 04:20.08 | Ze_M | dev1k: poor one |
| 04:20.23 | dev1k | Ze_M, ok.... thanks.. |
| 04:20.53 | Ze_M | DaSkreech: dont know about it |
| 04:21.04 | Ze_M | but im not the best person to say about kde4 |
| 04:21.04 | DaSkreech | ok |
| 04:21.12 | DaSkreech | Know about knoware? |
| 04:21.26 | Ze_M | now i have to go to bed, night |
| 04:21.30 | dev1k | nn |
| 04:21.43 | DaSkreech | night night |
| 04:22.06 | DaSkreech | Wonder if annma will turn up :) |
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| 04:28.25 | DaSkreech | Anyone awake? |
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| 04:34.13 | TheBeast | kopete sees my webcam without any kind of problems. however Yahoo Messenger users cannot see it. do you think it's actually possible to broadcast? |
| 04:36.51 | TheBeast | yuck |
| 04:36.58 | TheBeast | this is not a support channel |
| 04:37.29 | cpw | you're right, it's a volunteer support channel :P |
| 04:38.12 | cpw | cause like.. the entire world should have a webcam, use kopete, and have yahoo messenger friends.. |
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| 04:38.25 | DaSkreech | Wouldn't be all bad :) |
| 04:38.31 | eisregen | hi =) |
| 04:38.33 | DaSkreech | Except for the yahoo! menssenger tem of course |
| 04:38.55 | DaSkreech | that would kinda suck to make an app that pretty much only gets used in your office |
| 04:41.21 | eisregen | can somebody give me a little help with konqi and css/font size ? I declare a font size 'larger', in konqi 3.4 it was twice as large as 'normal', in konqi 3.5 it's the same size .... |
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| 04:58.26 | t4xil4bs | anyone know why after updating kde i have many times a message on my lcd "Display Changed Lcd On" ? |
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| 05:36.15 | DeadS0ul | hello |
| 05:36.45 | DaSkreech | Hi |
| 05:37.18 | mirekr_ | hi |
| 05:38.44 | t4xil4bs | anyone know why after updating kde i have many times a message on my lcd "Display Changed Lcd On" ? |
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| 05:41.44 | DeadS0ul | WoOOOoOoooO |
| 05:43.00 | DaSkreech | How'd you get the music icons? |
| 05:57.26 | DeadS0ul | have no clue |
| 05:57.36 | DeadS0ul | konversation just displays'em |
| 05:57.38 | DeadS0ul | i can't see'em though |
| 06:03.06 | Cenuij | ♫ |
| 06:03.09 | Cenuij | heh :) |
| 06:05.11 | DaSkreech | What? |
| 06:05.11 | DaSkreech | How? |
| 06:06.18 | Cenuij | no idea, i just pasted it from DeadS0ul's line... |
| 06:07.01 | DaSkreech | Oh |
| 06:07.09 | DaSkreech | Of course :) |
| 06:08.03 | Cenuij | DeadS0ul: what script? |
| 06:08.47 | straw | you can paste it from kcharselect. not sure how you'd produce it with a keyboard |
| 06:08.48 | DeadS0ul | heh |
| 06:08.53 | DeadS0ul | no script, i just did /media |
| 06:08.54 | Cenuij | altho both being kde apps and amarok having pretty usefull features over dcop it shoudlnt be needed |
| 06:09.17 | straw | ♫♪ |
| 06:09.37 | DaSkreech | Hmm knoware seems stalled :( |
| 06:09.48 | DeadS0ul | haha |
| 06:11.07 | DeadS0ul | I like this cover, sounds damn cool |
| 06:11.10 | DaSkreech | you played that already |
| 06:11.46 | straw | ☼ ♥ |
| 06:11.51 | straw | heh |
| 06:12.11 | DeadS0ul | haha yeah I love it! |
| 06:12.24 | DeadS0ul | none of the other covers in this album are that great |
| 06:12.54 | DeadS0ul | there's this |
| 06:13.33 | DeadS0ul | the other ones I don't really recognise =| |
| 06:13.51 | DeadS0ul | Random Fortune: By the way, I can hardly feel sorry for you... All last night I had to listen to her tears, so great they were redirected to a stream. What? Of _course_ you didn't know. You and your little group no longer have any permissions around here. She changed her .lock files, too. -- Kevin M. Bealer, commenting on the private life of a Linux nerd |
| 06:14.12 | DeadS0ul | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:14.30 | DeadS0ul | heh so many scripts built into konversation |
| 06:14.34 | DeadS0ul | Qt: 3.3.5 |
| 06:14.34 | DeadS0ul | KDE: 3.4.3 |
| 06:14.34 | DeadS0ul | kde-config: 1.0 |
| 06:15.22 | DaSkreech | Yeah Should be a bannable offence :) |
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| 06:17.26 | DeadS0ul | hehe |
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| 06:23.30 | DaSkreech | Ok I'll try and hunt down Knowledge tomorrow |
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| 06:32.52 | Flendor | Good morning. |
| 06:34.53 | DaSkreech | hi |
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| 06:36.05 | yzrider088 | how do i make kde launch windows in a new process |
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| 07:10.37 | mr-rich | any quanta ppl here? |
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| 07:20.53 | DaSkreech | Should check if there are any people here first |
| 07:21.04 | cpw | ha |
| 07:21.16 | cpw | I just made a mean old irssi alias with bash and dcop to display playing mp3's :P |
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| 07:28.01 | kakalto | I just updated konqueror to 3.5, and right click on an ad, but find no adblock option... am I missing something? |
| 07:28.49 | mr-rich | well, quanta won't let me create a remote fish project ... |
| 07:29.31 | mr-rich | it will let me open a file ... or a project ... just not create a new one ... |
| 07:29.42 | mr-rich | which ... sucks |
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| 07:53.23 | ods15 | does kde work just fine without arts? |
| 07:53.47 | ods15 | if i have alsa, and it supports several connections just fine |
| 07:54.36 | DeadS0ul | arts is a general back end, use it if you can |
| 07:54.58 | ods15 | it's slow, cpu consuming, and causes a big annoying delay between event and sound |
| 07:55.00 | DeadS0ul | for sound intensive apps, they usually support a more powerful backend on their own |
| 07:55.10 | DeadS0ul | turn up real time priority |
| 07:55.16 | ods15 | thats even worse |
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| 07:56.54 | DeadS0ul | arts is not that bad |
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| 08:00.05 | ods15 | hmm |
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| 08:00.51 | dimm0k | when i start up kde, it restores the volume to 50% instead of whatever i had it last... is there a way to change this? |
| 08:01.39 | straw | you're using kmix to adjust volume? |
| 08:02.03 | DeadS0ul | yeah that's probably your alsa save and restore scripts |
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| 08:02.24 | dimm0k | actually using alsamixer to adjust |
| 08:02.41 | dimm0k | the alsa save and restore scripts come into play starting kde? |
| 08:02.54 | Arzie | No, at bootup. |
| 08:03.00 | straw | try using kmix, or set kmix to not restore volume |
| 08:03.00 | Arzie | Uhm, boot or start up ;). |
| 08:03.44 | dimm0k | oh well it's when i leave kde and start it up again, the volume's back to 50% |
| 08:04.33 | straw | right |
| 08:05.08 | straw | did you adjust it with kmix? |
| 08:05.38 | dimm0k | just did... also found an option in kmix that restores volume on login... that might just do it |
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| 08:06.32 | straw | that's what i've been referring to |
| 08:06.42 | SMiLeaf | hmm.. I got disconnected. |
| 08:07.26 | dimm0k | straw, oops, thanks |
| 08:08.05 | DeadS0ul | hal and udev fucked up on me last night, when I did ps -e i found all these extra processes by hal. |
| 08:08.28 | DeadS0ul | and udev wouldn't recognise any devices I plugged in, even after I restarted it |
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| 08:35.34 | _mobtek_ | gumby |
| 08:36.07 | markey | gumby, mobtek |
| 08:36.12 | markey | is that a local greeting? |
| 08:39.23 | mobtek | fyuppers |
| 08:39.32 | mobtek | damn kvirc is fiddly |
| 08:40.08 | mobtek | ok back to konvi, this is horrible :) even if it does have bad transparency :) |
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| 08:42.18 | mobtek | markey: gumbychuckles |
| 08:42.32 | mobtek | dude I sold Gumby videos at our garage sale yesterday |
| 08:42.44 | mobtek | some young dude came in and went wow gumby! |
| 08:43.14 | markey | ok, wikipedia to the help |
| 08:43.16 | SMiLeaf | lol |
| 08:43.16 | markey | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:43.16 | markey | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:43.16 | markey | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:43.19 | markey | Gumby is a green clay humanoid figure who was the subject of a series of television shows totaling 223 episodes over a three-and-a-half decade period, animated using stop motion photography, known as claymation. The shows also featured Pokey, an orange clay horse, and Gumby's nemeses, the Block-heads. |
| 08:43.24 | markey | :) |
| 08:43.30 | SMiLeaf | gumby is cool |
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| 08:44.08 | straw | can't for get Mr. Bill |
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| 08:47.25 | robert_ | hey guys- I have an issue here |
| 08:47.55 | robert_ | I've just reinstalled xorg, and now, I'm getting my .ICEauthority file chown'ed whenever X inits |
| 08:49.44 | robert_ | (KDE 3.4.2, running SuSE 9.3 Professional) |
| 08:55.22 | SMiLeaf | robert_: I think you might have a bit more luck over in #suse ;) |
| 08:55.32 | SMiLeaf | X != KDE |
| 08:55.40 | SMiLeaf | =) |
| 08:56.45 | robert_ | Okay, let me rephrase |
| 08:57.09 | robert_ | my .ICEauthority "magically" re-owns itself to root / users when I attempt to start kde |
| 08:57.10 | robert_ | he |
| 08:58.12 | robert_ | er |
| 08:58.16 | robert_ | not only that |
| 08:58.22 | robert_ | it re-permissions itself aswell |
| 08:58.29 | robert_ | which is effing odd |
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| 08:58.42 | SMiLeaf | ya.. |
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| 08:58.59 | robert_ | what could be doing that? |
| 08:59.09 | SMiLeaf | doesn't happen here in gentoo :/ .. |
| 08:59.14 | robert_ | heh |
| 08:59.27 | robert_ | well, I recently had to undergo a reinstall of X |
| 08:59.44 | robert_ | if that helps anything |
| 08:59.44 | robert_ | heh |
| 09:02.00 | SMiLeaf | dunno sounds more like an X issue.. don't think kde even uses that file but then I have no clue. |
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| 09:06.54 | robert_ | SMiLeaf: it does- "The following installation problem was detected while trying to start KDE- No write access to `/home/robert_/.ICEauthority' KDE is unable to start" |
| 09:07.06 | robert_ | is the message I get while trying to startup |
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| 09:08.05 | SMiLeaf | robert_: are you sure it changes when trying to log in.. or after X loads? |
| 09:08.45 | robert_ | changes to what/ the error? |
| 09:09.38 | robert_ | or that it tries to start kde? |
| 09:11.03 | SMiLeaf | changes the permissions on that file |
| 09:12.10 | robert_ | I personally change it each time I try to get into kde |
| 09:12.28 | SMiLeaf | ... |
| 09:12.43 | SMiLeaf | when does it change it back then?... |
| 09:13.05 | robert_ | sometime inbetween starting X and starting ksmserver |
| 09:13.22 | SMiLeaf | be helpful to know exactly when ;) |
| 09:13.59 | robert_ | well |
| 09:16.45 | robert_ | when does ksmserver start? |
| 09:17.19 | SMiLeaf | during the startkde script. |
| 09:17.28 | robert_ | hm, let me look then |
| 09:17.39 | SMiLeaf | after forking and after dcopserver and kauncher |
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| 09:18.38 | SMiLeaf | oops.. guess kded and kcminit.. then ksmserver |
| 09:19.08 | robert_ | yeah |
| 09:19.09 | robert_ | I am |
| 09:23.44 | SMiLeaf | hmm.. to sleep .. or to start on this design? |
| 09:25.02 | robert_ | hm |
| 09:25.02 | robert_ | heh |
| 09:26.14 | SMiLeaf | a new look for kde-look.org :) |
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| 09:31.10 | robert_ | I can't even get it working if I hack the script |
| 09:31.34 | AlphaUser | Hello. I'm running KDE 3.4.2, I'd like to know if there's a way to open multiple programs with a single desktop item (preferrably without a parent window) |
| 09:32.18 | robert_ | IE. if I `chmod 666` it inside startkde, then make the startkde script setuid |
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| 09:35.45 | eichi | hi |
| 09:36.03 | SMiLeaf | AlphaUser: try using "command1; command2" ? |
| 09:36.06 | eichi | ome here? i have a problem with my konqueror, i cant create a new folder by right click menu :( |
| 09:37.00 | AlphaUser | SMiLeaf- I'll give it a shot |
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| 09:38.00 | AlphaUser | SMiLeaf- That opens one after another :( |
| 09:38.22 | AlphaUser | SMiLeaf- command & command works |
| 09:38.25 | SMiLeaf | AlphaUser: yah? |
| 09:38.26 | AlphaUser | SMiLeaf- Thanks :) |
| 09:38.29 | SMiLeaf | :) |
| 09:39.46 | SMiLeaf | Mmm.. think I'll sleep.. no idea is really hitting me yet as a "that'd be awesome!" :| |
| 09:40.15 | SMiLeaf | I got key points I wanna hit made up :) |
| 09:41.49 | robert_ | SMiLeaf: I can't even get it working by 'chmod 666'ing it inside the script, and making the script setuid |
| 09:42.07 | SMiLeaf | robert_: ya.. I saw that. |
| 09:42.23 | robert_ | hm, nothing then? |
| 09:42.23 | robert_ | heh |
| 09:42.31 | SMiLeaf | would appear then it would be after the script. |
| 09:42.48 | SMiLeaf | or after where you put that line. |
| 09:42.53 | robert_ | heh |
| 09:42.54 | robert_ | yeah |
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| 09:43.58 | halcyonCorsair | is it possible to move tabs in konqueror? |
| 09:44.25 | robert_ | whch is basically where startkde calls ksmserver |
| 09:45.27 | SMiLeaf | halcyonCorsair: I'm gonna have to say no :/ |
| 09:46.59 | halcyonCorsair | SMiLeaf: so we can sorta copy them, but not actually move them? |
| 09:47.07 | SMiLeaf | halcyonCorsair: yup |
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| 09:48.33 | halcyonCorsair | >_< |
| 09:48.41 | halcyonCorsair | screwy |
| 09:51.44 | robert_ | heh |
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| 09:52.09 | halcyonCorsair | damn beineri for his misleading blog |
| 09:52.17 | robert_ | heh |
| 09:52.20 | robert_ | hm |
| 09:52.35 | eichi | i have a problem with my konqueror, i cant create a new folder by right click menu :( no one can help? |
| 09:53.31 | SMiLeaf | what error message.. etc. |
| 09:53.36 | robert_ | anyone have any ideas why my .ICEauthority seemingly magically changes owner/permissions when I try to start kde? |
| 09:53.43 | robert_ | hm |
| 09:53.49 | eichi | nothing?! the endy doesnt exist |
| 09:53.56 | robert_ | create one? manually? |
| 09:53.56 | eichi | entry |
| 09:54.10 | eichi | no, but isnt is default entry? |
| 09:54.23 | eichi | it |
| 09:54.28 | SMiLeaf | eichi: your not trying to create one that starts with a period right? :) |
| 09:55.04 | SMiLeaf | you do also realize that no directory is created until you hit Ok or enter. |
| 09:55.53 | eichi | i cant hit enter or okay...bacause the entry "create new" --> "folder" doenst exist any more |
| 09:56.00 | paradocs | eichi is your media rw |
| 09:56.12 | SMiLeaf | eichi: protocol? |
| 09:56.25 | eichi | we are talking about different things ;) |
| 09:56.31 | SMiLeaf | media:/ ftp:/ ? |
| 09:56.42 | SMiLeaf | normal /home/name ? |
| 09:57.01 | eichi | yes |
| 09:57.20 | SMiLeaf | yes what? .. which one? |
| 09:57.39 | eichi | there is no problem creating a now folder, i HAVENT GOT e entry in the right click menu...now clear? ;) |
| 09:57.47 | eichi | now =new |
| 09:58.13 | SMiLeaf | where tho?.. what does the location box say in where your trying to make one? |
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| 09:58.43 | eichi | i cant make one without a entry "create new folder" ?!?! |
| 09:58.46 | paradocs | new will not show if the media is read only, are you mounted read write? |
| 09:58.51 | eichi | without |
| 09:58.57 | SMiLeaf | .... |
| 09:59.28 | eichi | one moment |
| 09:59.35 | eichi | i make screenhot |
| 09:59.48 | SMiLeaf | eichi: no you don't understand.. where.... I don't care that it's not there or that you can't create one. I care about where you are trying to do this? you must have write access in order for this entry to appear. :/ |
| 10:00.53 | eichi | lol okay, but for shure, i have write access on my home folder |
| 10:01.43 | eichi | http://img203.imageshack.us/my.php?image=200512111054429vh.png |
| 10:02.47 | SMiLeaf | Ok it's not a write access issue.. looks like a messed up install :/ |
| 10:03.44 | eichi | i guess, i havent got a package i need.....i dont use kde -> dont have much kde packages |
| 10:03.48 | DirkGently | eichi: do you get the same with a different user account? |
| 10:03.58 | eichi | one moment |
| 10:04.19 | SMiLeaf | hmm.. I was going to go sleep a while ago .. x.x;; |
| 10:04.45 | eichi | yes root hasn't got one too |
| 10:05.00 | eichi | good night |
| 10:05.08 | DirkGently | logging on to KDE as root? |
| 10:05.22 | eichi | kdesu konqueror i tryed |
| 10:05.31 | eichi | i dont use kde |
| 10:05.36 | eichi | only konqueror |
| 10:06.16 | eichi | and i don't login a desktop as root :P |
| 10:06.37 | DirkGently | you need at least kdelibs and kdebase to run konqueror |
| 10:06.55 | DirkGently | eichi: I hope not too :¬) |
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| 10:08.03 | eichi | tuxer eichi # epm -q kdelibs kdebase |
| 10:08.03 | eichi | package kdebase is not installed |
| 10:08.03 | eichi | kdelibs-3.4.2-r1 |
| 10:08.06 | eichi | ops? |
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| 10:13.04 | eichi | DirkGently:~> that cant be the problem ;) |
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| 10:27.06 | Columbo0815 | hi, is it possible to use xdmcp with cygwin? i only get the "x-grid" |
| 10:28.03 | Thunder | hi, i want to emerge/compile kde 3.5.0 in gentoo but when compiling kdeaddons-3.5.0 it crashes hardly, it looks like a coding misstake or so, can some help me how i can do a workaround or so? Here is the output: http://phpfi.com/91136 |
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| 10:31.05 | GraveDigger | moin there |
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| 10:32.27 | Thunder | hi GraveDigger ^^ |
| 10:32.33 | GraveDigger | :) |
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| 10:50.59 | lordpatman | hi |
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| 11:05.48 | aa_ | hi, Ihave a dumb question. How can I configure how gtk aps appear in kde? I mean things like toolbar settings -> icons only etc.. is it possible? |
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| 11:23.31 | halcyonCorsair | aa_: umm, i think for that you need to install gtk-engines-qt |
| 11:23.43 | halcyonCorsair | if your meaning what i think |
| 11:24.12 | peratu | Hi. |
| 11:24.28 | aa_ | halcyonCorsair: seems I just had to run anything starting with the word gnome- to kick it into action |
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| 11:26.29 | rabauke | Hello! |
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| 11:26.55 | aa_ | anyway, thanks+bye |
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| 11:27.43 | rabauke | When installing e.g. the default-plus theme via kopete's preferences dialogue, I get an error that there were errors during installtion but some icons might be available nonetheless. |
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| 11:28.33 | rabauke | As this error does not come from kopete, at least I was told that emoticon-sets, are installed KDE-wide, I would like to know where it comes from and why |
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| 11:31.14 | lordpatman | cu |
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| 11:40.06 | halcyonCorsair | SMiLeaf: oh wow....just read all the comments on beineri's blog, it seems you can rearrange konqui tabs with middle-click drag |
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| 11:42.19 | mattepiu | hi all! for the question "how to make firefox 'open containing folder'" option to work with konwueror, here is the right channel? :-/ |
| 11:42.19 | superstoned | aa_: the gnomes themselves can't even set how their apps look like (there are no working global settings for text under icons etc) so how could KDE do that ;-) |
| 11:42.37 | superstoned | maybe :D |
| 11:43.06 | superstoned | but i have no idea |
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| 11:44.04 | superstoned | where can we find "open containing folder"??? |
| 11:44.09 | mattepiu | I'm trying to browse net with firefox (seamless passage from win) but to browse downloaded files with konqueror, and get rid of nautilus and others |
| 11:44.09 | mattepiu | crappy gnome dependancies |
| 11:44.26 | superstoned | hmmm |
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| 11:44.59 | superstoned | i don't use firefox, thus have no idea how to do it. but it might be somewhere in the settings, i guess... |
| 11:45.13 | mattepiu | I tried both to add a script named /usr/bin/nautilus pointing a tkonqueror and to make /usr/bin/nautilus a symlink to konqueror, none working |
| 11:45.17 | superstoned | maybe in that kind-of-regedit in firefox? |
| 11:45.27 | mattepiu | about:config? |
| 11:45.38 | csezol | Some keys in the hungarian keyboard layout do not work, how do i change them ? ( i know their ascii code ) |
| 11:45.38 | superstoned | yes |
| 11:46.08 | superstoned | csezol: try choosing your keyboard in kcontrol? |
| 11:46.14 | superstoned | can be hard to do... |
| 11:46.19 | superstoned | (to find, that is) |
| 11:46.22 | mattepiu | can't find the option anywhere in about:config |
| 11:46.39 | superstoned | well, then i can only tell you to try to use konqueror for everything :D |
| 11:47.10 | csezol | superstoned, i already have chosen it, changed to it, but two characters simply dont work ( the system prints ´cubes´ instead of them ) |
| 11:48.00 | superstoned | then the characters are not available in the font you use... |
| 11:48.05 | superstoned | try another font?!? |
| 11:48.12 | csezol | maybe ;) |
| 11:52.00 | mattepiu | I would use konqueror for anything if I could have all the extensions and "easy to copy bookmarks" as I have in firefox |
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| 11:59.09 | Whisky_ | ok now i want to disable most of the graphical effects in KDE so i wont experience lags |
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| 12:06.55 | eXistenZ | hello, I think one of the programs has messed up with my libs, and now I get this error: http://pastebin.com/459357 when I try to open some programs, can anyone help me? |
| 12:08.51 | Tm_T | "It is our pleasure to finally be able to release the latest stable version of Irssi v0.8.10." |
| 12:08.55 | Tm_T | \o/ |
| 12:09.23 | tstaerk | eXistenZ, the splash screen cannot start up because of version mismatch. |
| 12:09.34 | eXistenZ | for what lib? |
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| 12:10.06 | tstaerk | eXistenZ, libc - the one and only. How did you mess up your environment ? |
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| 12:10.31 | eXistenZ | frankly, I don't know, I just installed idle python 2.4 |
| 12:10.43 | tstaerk | eXistenZ, which distribution ? Your backtrace does not say much more than "I crash now" |
| 12:10.53 | eXistenZ | kubuntu |
| 12:10.54 | tstaerk | eXistenZ, how did you install this ? |
| 12:11.01 | eXistenZ | using synaptics |
| 12:11.09 | tstaerk | command ? |
| 12:11.31 | eXistenZ | I just marked it for installation and installed it |
| 12:11.40 | eXistenZ | how can I know what were the latest packages I Installed? |
| 12:11.43 | tstaerk | sounds good. |
| 12:12.01 | tstaerk | no idea about kubuntu. |
| 12:12.14 | eXistenZ | it's just like kde |
| 12:12.25 | eXistenZ | erm |
| 12:12.28 | eXistenZ | apt stuff |
| 12:12.29 | apt | ACTION is stuffing George* |
| 12:12.29 | tstaerk | but just marking something and installing it is good - not much to do wrong there. |
| 12:13.12 | tstaerk | eXistenZ, deinstall python and look if it works again - I doubt it. |
| 12:13.32 | tstaerk | eXistenZ, then let's look at one specific program that has stopped to work. |
| 12:13.38 | tstaerk | and find out why. |
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| 12:13.50 | eXistenZ | tstaerk, what's your distro |
| 12:14.02 | tstaerk | I doubt that installing python has even something to do with your crash. Suse 10. |
| 12:14.14 | George | wtf? |
| 12:14.15 | eXistenZ | yep, I tried to uninstall it |
| 12:14.22 | eXistenZ | apt |
| 12:14.25 | WireDDD | I just got this message saying that the kde media manager isn't running, and none of the media:/ urls work any more, how do I start it? |
| 12:14.27 | eXistenZ | err no response |
| 12:15.21 | tstaerk | eXistenZ, what program refuses to work now ? |
| 12:15.30 | eXistenZ | different programs |
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| 12:15.50 | eXistenZ | eric python ide/ documentation viewer for kdevelop |
| 12:16.02 | tstaerk | WireDDD, best,not at all ;) Why do you want media:/ ? Go for file://mnt |
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| 12:16.43 | WireDDD | well it was working fine |
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| 12:17.54 | WireDDD | I use it for mounting/unmounting my mp3 player |
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| 12:21.09 | WireDDD | and since you can't use file://mnt to mount anything without opening up a console, that just won't do |
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| 12:23.37 | tstaerk | WireDDD, what did you change in your system ? Did you try restarting KDE ? |
| 12:23.43 | MachineScrew | is there a way to prevent Kscd from automaticly running when a cd is inserted |
| 12:23.59 | WireDDD | i'm sure it will start up if I restart kde, but I don't want to do that |
| 12:24.06 | WireDDD | at some point it crashed |
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| 12:27.47 | tstaerk | WireDDD, do a ps -Hef into a file. Then, restart your KDE, verify that it works and do again a ps -Hef into another file. |
| 12:28.08 | rohitsz | greetings all... my double click opens any folder in a new window (mandriva + kde3.3) |
| 12:28.28 | tstaerk | Compare the two files and you will see if there is a process responsible for media:/ not working. However, I am not sure if this is a process. |
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| 12:28.49 | WireDDD | I would imaging it would be a kioslave process |
| 12:29.02 | WireDDD | because those are all missing from my process list |
| 12:29.27 | tstaerk | WireDDD, I could imagine that - but here, media:/ works, and I do not have kioslave-media process either. |
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| 12:30.40 | tstaerk | rohitsz, in kcontrol, search for file associations. There is an inode|directory. |
| 12:30.52 | WireDDD | aiight i'll be back then |
| 12:31.04 | tstaerk | WireDDD, do not forget to ps -Hef |
| 12:31.13 | rohitsz | will check it out right away tstaerk ... |
| 12:31.36 | WireDDD | yeah just did one |
| 12:31.42 | tstaerk | rohitsz, then, chose Embedding | Use settings for inode group |
| 12:34.23 | rohitsz | thanks a lot tstaerk :-) have been trying to solve it for a couple of weeks ... thanks again.. :-) |
| 12:34.40 | tstaerk | rohitsz, so it works ? |
| 12:34.48 | rohitsz | absolutely tstaerk... |
| 12:35.07 | tstaerk | wohooo - you're welcome |
| 12:35.43 | rohitsz | thanks tstaerk :-) |
| 12:38.16 | cpw | ahh... |
| 12:38.43 | cpw | that OSD function in konversation is a trip |
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| 12:39.53 | wireddd | ok it works fine now |
| 12:40.29 | tstaerk | wireddd, is there another process tree now that it works ? |
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| 12:41.06 | wireddd | there are more kio processes |
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| 12:43.28 | tstaerk | wireddd, did you see a crash report (drkonqi) about a crashed process during your last session ? |
| 12:44.16 | wireddd | not any that I didn't cause |
| 12:45.24 | tstaerk | so, some process ended work for some reason we do not know and media:/ was no longer accessible - not good enough for a bug report. |
| 12:46.46 | wireddd | no it isn't good enough for a bug report |
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| 12:50.40 | tstaerk | wireddd, next time when you cannot access media:/, start konqueror from the konsole, point it to media:/ and paste the konsole output to bugs.kde.org - that should contain an error msg. Ah, btw, you should use KDE 3.4.3 or 3.5.0 or pre-4. |
| 12:51.04 | tstaerk | wireddd, I mean, you should use these versions before opening a bug report. |
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| 12:52.55 | wireddd | yeah i'm using 3.4.2 |
| 12:53.08 | davidsmind | I got a linux scripting question. I want to suppress rmdir's warnings "rmdir: `foo/bar': Directory not empty" but keep everything else "rmdir: removing directory, bleh/" |
| 12:53.13 | davidsmind | how do I do this? |
| 12:53.55 | tstaerk | davidsmind, do_command 2>&1 | grep -v "accepted error msg" |
| 12:54.20 | tstaerk | davidsmind, this will calll do_command and put out everything but "accepted error msg" |
| 12:54.43 | tstaerk | davidsmind, note this is bash only |
| 12:54.54 | davidsmind | 2>&1 can you explain this please? how does it differ from just plain ol' > ? |
| 12:55.10 | davidsmind | I see 2> and &> in a lot of my init scripts |
| 12:55.27 | tstaerk | davidsmind, every command has two output streams: standard output (STDOUT) and error output (STDERR) |
| 12:56.05 | davidsmind | right? and 2 is stdout and & is stderr? |
| 12:56.06 | tstaerk | davidsmind, command > whatever redirects STDOUT to whatever, STDERR stays on console (per default) |
| 12:56.12 | davidsmind | aah |
| 12:56.32 | tstaerk | davidsmind, yes. 2>&1 means, "redirect STDERR to STDOUT" |
| 12:57.02 | tstaerk | davidsmind, no, sorry - 1 is STDOUT, 2 is STDERR and &1 is "where STDOUT points" |
| 12:57.23 | davidsmind | so it redirects it stderr to stdout where it can be manipulated by grep |
| 12:57.24 | davidsmind | cool |
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| 12:57.37 | tstaerk | davidsmind, you got it |
| 12:57.47 | davidsmind | I always wondered how to do that |
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| 13:17.54 | tstaerk | hey all, how do you get a USB memory stick mounted (not via konsole) |
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| 13:18.57 | StevenR | tstaerk: make a device icon for it |
| 13:20.10 | tstaerk | hm... better ideas was to set kcontrol -> desktop -> behavior -> device icons. But this no longer works @ me. However, StevenR, good idea, thanks. |
| 13:21.54 | erc | what is the real name of the KDE System Monitor applet? |
| 13:22.27 | erc | tstaerk, ivman auto mounts stuff, I gather |
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| 13:24.23 | cpw | ksim? |
| 13:25.38 | tstaerk | erc, ksysguard ? |
| 13:26.02 | erc | ksysguard eat 10% or more cpu |
| 13:26.36 | erc | ther is a lighter one I have used on other setups |
| 13:26.48 | erc | *there |
| 13:28.01 | erc | tstaerk, I like to set mount points in fstab and mount stuff with kdiskfree |
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| 13:31.02 | tstaerk | erc, you mean "add applet to panel -> System Monitor" + |
| 13:31.08 | tstaerk | s/+/?/ |
| 13:32.22 | erc | exactly |
| 13:32.32 | erc | but its not there |
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| 13:34.00 | tstaerk | erc, it does not appear in the process list. |
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| 13:37.29 | kblin | hi |
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| 13:38.08 | Ayoze | hi all |
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| 13:38.42 | Ayoze | anybody knows how to add paths to make konqueror look for plugins in? |
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| 13:39.21 | kblin | on suse 10.0, kde 3.4.2, kontact 1.1.2, how do I make kmail aware of new mail in maildir folders? |
| 13:39.48 | ponto | Ayoze: in the plugins configration page, you can add a new path |
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| 13:40.15 | Ayoze | ponto: i havent found that |
| 13:40.15 | tstaerk | Ayoze, what plugins ? The java-plugin or some kpart-plugins ? |
| 13:40.20 | Ayoze | mmm flash plugin |
| 13:40.41 | halibut | It would be nice if there was a button in Ksnapshot to "upload to image shack", |
| 13:41.06 | ponto | Ayoze: open the konqueror configuration |
| 13:41.20 | Ayoze | yes |
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| 13:41.58 | ponto | Ayoze: there is a page called plugins |
| 13:42.03 | ponto | Ayoze: is the second last one |
| 13:42.10 | Ayoze | i dont have it in kde 3.5 XD |
| 13:42.32 | ponto | Ayoze: XD? |
| 13:43.05 | Ayoze | XD == :D |
| 13:43.16 | Ayoze | sorry |
| 13:43.46 | cpw | ponto: you haven't been in any/enough french/anime channels |
| 13:43.51 | JabberWokky | I was wondering. "KDE XD is just like KDE, but it comes with extra features and usually runs about $80 more" |
| 13:44.03 | Ayoze | cpw: spanish too |
| 13:44.05 | cpw | forgot sorry |
| 13:44.20 | ponto | Ayoze: can you make a screenshot of your konqueror's configuration dialog. when the scrollbar at the left is at the bottom |
| 13:44.33 | kblin | cpw: isn't anime XD == ^^ |
| 13:44.43 | Ayoze | ponto: sure, but that's in spanish |
| 13:44.44 | cpw | kblin: they use both |
| 13:44.51 | kblin | cpw: oh, ok |
| 13:44.55 | SMiLeaf | kblin: nope. those are eye brows |
| 13:45.04 | ponto | Ayoze: should be no problem |
| 13:45.24 | SMiLeaf | or is how I see 'em anyway :) |
| 13:45.29 | kblin | hehe |
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| 13:45.42 | SMiLeaf | ^_~ |
| 13:45.48 | cpw | kblin: you have to consider the possiblities of life itself when confronted with the question of anime faces |
| 13:45.53 | Ayoze | ponto: http://tequila.linuxlover.org/temp/sshot.png |
| 13:46.17 | SMiLeaf | Mm.. life in drawings. |
| 13:46.38 | ponto | Ok, no plugins page. Did you compile KDE on your own? |
| 13:46.44 | Ayoze | emerged |
| 13:46.58 | ponto | Ayoze: then also emerge the nspluginwrapper for kde |
| 13:47.00 | SMiLeaf | Ayoze: split ebuilds? |
| 13:47.06 | Ayoze | SMiLeaf: yes |
| 13:47.09 | tstaerk | erc, it calls itself KTimeMon |
| 13:47.10 | Ayoze | ponto: ok :) |
| 13:47.29 | SMiLeaf | Ayoze: what even is the question?.. lol XD |
| 13:48.01 | Ayoze | nah, how to add paths to make konqueror find the netscape flash plugin xD |
| 13:48.45 | SMiLeaf | you have nsplugin in your USE ? |
| 13:48.53 | Ayoze | mmm no |
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| 13:49.05 | Ayoze | in what package should i do that? |
| 13:49.25 | cpw | just emerge nsplugins |
| 13:49.30 | Ayoze | ok |
| 13:49.35 | cpw | then go to Konqueror->Settings->Plugins |
| 13:49.42 | cpw | should be an option to scan for new plugins |
| 13:49.46 | cpw | 2) ??? |
| 13:49.47 | SMiLeaf | I'm not quite sure if you'd need that use. but it's what I got and looks like it should apply ;) |
| 13:49.50 | cpw | 3) Profit! |
| 13:49.56 | Ayoze | hehe |
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| 13:50.52 | SMiLeaf | profit $_$? |
| 13:51.09 | kblin | aha |
| 13:51.32 | kblin | wow, using procmail and kmail is quite a hassle |
| 13:52.09 | tstaerk | erc, I found the plugin for ktimemon: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 78244 Sep 14 13:46 /opt/kde3/lib/kde3/ktimemon_panelapplet.so |
| 13:52.19 | SMiLeaf | kblin: Mmm... imap and smtp =) |
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| 13:53.25 | kblin | SMiLeaf: a bit too much when running on a laptop, don't you think? |
| 13:53.51 | SMiLeaf | kblin: I'm running on a laptop ? |
| 13:54.05 | SMiLeaf | the mail server isn't :) |
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| 13:54.47 | erc | thanks, tstaerk , I find now that ksysguard is not so bad |
| 13:55.32 | erc | not using broken gentoo kernel anymore |
| 13:56.01 | kblin | SMiLeaf: I don't have another box that's running all the time |
| 13:56.32 | kblin | If I need to get at the emails without my laptop, I'll use google webmail :) |
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| 13:57.01 | SMiLeaf | so you send emails using the gmail name? XD |
| 13:57.13 | kblin | yeah |
| 13:57.34 | SMiLeaf | wouldn't be suprised if they got marked spam ;) |
| 13:57.38 | kblin | postix/tls -> google |
| 13:57.50 | kblin | I relay via google's mail serer |
| 13:57.57 | SMiLeaf | Ah Ok :) |
| 13:57.57 | kblin | server, too |
| 13:58.13 | SMiLeaf | google have pop3 available? |
| 13:58.19 | kblin | yup |
| 13:58.27 | SMiLeaf | ... Oooo |
| 13:58.27 | cpw | google owns the world |
| 13:58.41 | kblin | pop3s, that is.. I didn't try unencrypted |
| 13:58.49 | SMiLeaf | I've been running my own because I *hate* webmail. |
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| 13:58.56 | cpw | like people want unencrypted |
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| 13:59.19 | kblin | cpw: and I'm glad they own it. Got me some nice toys this summer |
| 13:59.23 | SMiLeaf | cpw: they don't :P |
| 13:59.25 | SMiLeaf | ? |
| 14:00.23 | kblin | SMiLeaf: I actually think google webmail is pretty sane.. and it doesn't have banner adds or the like |
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| 14:01.43 | SMiLeaf | kblin: ya.. but it's not you click an email link in a web page and it won't come up will it? ;) |
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| 14:13.06 | rizwaan | hi, problem compiling kdenetwork |
| 14:13.22 | rizwaan | kdesvn/kdenetwork/kopete/protocols/sms/services/smsclient.cpp:95: undefined reference to `SMSClientPrefsUI::SMSClientPrefsUI[in-charge](QWidget*, char const*, unsigned)' |
| 14:13.23 | rizwaan | collect2: ld returned 1 exit status |
| 14:13.23 | rizwaan | Error creating ./kopete/protocols/sms/kopete_sms.la. Exit status 1. |
| 14:14.08 | tstaerk | rizwaan, what version ? How did you check out ? |
| 14:14.17 | rizwaan | kdesvn-build 3.5 |
| 14:15.17 | tstaerk | this in-charge, I remember... |
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| 14:15.41 | rizwaan | i'm using slackware 10.1 with qt-3.3.6 snapshot (kdebase, kdelibs etc. compiles properly, and kde 3.5rc1 also got compiled properly) |
| 14:16.04 | tstaerk | rizwaan, cd to kdesvn/kdenetwork/kopete/protocols/sms/services and try make clean && make |
| 14:16.15 | rizwaan | unsermake |
| 14:16.22 | tstaerk | waaah! |
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| 14:16.48 | tstaerk | rizwaan, okay, unsermake clean && unsermake |
| 14:17.31 | rizwaan | 1 min plz |
| 14:18.00 | rizwaan | rebuild?? |
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| 14:19.03 | rizwaan | please see my kdenetwork's kdesvn-build error.log |
| 14:19.05 | rizwaan | http://rafb.net/paste/results/Sozrzs27.html |
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| 14:20.31 | tstaerk | rizwaan, no change - please try unsermake clean && unsermake in sms/services |
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| 14:21.57 | metellius | any developers here who can tell me what part of kwin that's responsible for handling a new window? (specifically, the alt-tab window switcher) |
| 14:22.32 | tstaerk | rizwaan, what is going on is, it is searching for SMSClientPrefsUI[in-charge](QWidget*, char const*, unsigned) |
| 14:23.01 | tstaerk | tstaerk, but it does not find it in the .lo file. However, this function has been defined (else you would get a compiler error) |
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| 14:23.22 | tstaerk | So, the .lo file is obsolete and the linker heathers. |
| 14:23.50 | tstaerk | so, delete the .lo file together with all appropriate actions = unsermake clean |
| 14:23.50 | rizwaan | so what should i do to get that linker working? |
| 14:24.03 | rizwaan | thanks :) |
| 14:24.11 | tstaerk | metellius, you may want to ask in #kde-devel |
| 14:24.46 | redge- | anyone can help me get kde 3.5 to be installed on a debian sarge machine? |
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| 14:30.06 | bjdemora | lo |
| 14:30.26 | cpw | Konversation > KSirc |
| 14:30.40 | cpw | Internal KDE application wars :P |
| 14:30.45 | willwork4foo | lol |
| 14:31.19 | willwork4foo | well - I'm using KSirc because it's in my Internet menu on my KDE3.5 and Konversation isn't. |
| 14:31.41 | domme | willwork4foo: lol .. |
| 14:31.53 | domme | willwork4foo: put konversation there .. |
| 14:31.55 | Sho_ | Yeah, KSirc is part of KDE whereas Konversation is not |
| 14:31.59 | willwork4foo | yep. |
| 14:31.59 | cpw | you have to be careful with konversation |
| 14:32.06 | domme | cpw: why? |
| 14:32.06 | cpw | it has lovely "spam"-ish commands |
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| 14:32.11 | domme | lol |
| 14:32.14 | cpw | like /sysinfo :P |
| 14:32.18 | cpw | that thing spams.. |
| 14:32.19 | willwork4foo | I've just launched it for the first time and I'm getting to grips with it |
| 14:32.50 | benJIman | cpw: it's probably more likely that you'd paste in your sysinfo accidentally than type /sysinfo accidentally isn't it? |
| 14:33.25 | willwork4foo | brb |
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| 14:33.30 | cpw | benJIman: yes, but pity the fool that goes "Oh, what's this button do" and finds out the wrong way |
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| 14:33.44 | Sho_ | willwork4foo: I'm biased, but I find Konversation to be easier to use compared to KSircs somewhat weird preferences dialogs |
| 14:33.55 | bjdemora | hmmm... |
| 14:33.56 | SMiLeaf | cpw: try doing the weather one when you got a few monitored cities ;) |
| 14:34.11 | bjdemora | tis not setting my nick for me on autoconnect. Also can't work out where I would tell it to run a command on connect either |
| 14:34.15 | cpw | that's what my "spam channels" are for |
| 14:34.32 | cpw | I have one channel where we do nothing but spam it for no good reason but to spam it :P |
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| 14:34.38 | cpw | great stress relief :P |
| 14:35.21 | SMiLeaf | cpw: like run /cmd find / ? |
| 14:35.44 | Sho_ | cpw: We don't have a sysinfo button, by the way |
| 14:36.01 | cpw | Sho_: but we do have an enter button :P |
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| 14:36.47 | cpw | Though I have to say |
| 14:36.49 | willwork4foo | how do I make KSirc run a command automatically when I connect to a server? |
| 14:36.53 | cpw | the whole OSD thing is rather trippy |
| 14:37.38 | Sho_ | cpw: I find it hard to believe someone would accidently invoke /sysinfo by hitting 'Enter' ... your argument is slightly surreal ;) |
| 14:37.57 | cpw | Sho_: as are most of my arguments but hey oh well :P |
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| 14:38.23 | cpw | going from years of using irssi to konversation was somewhat awkward.. |
| 14:39.00 | SMiLeaf | going from irc == evil to irc isn't that bad is as well :) |
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| 14:54.07 | pinotree | hello |
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| 15:09.48 | Julianyus | hi |
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| 15:21.43 | pinotree | good afternoon, PhilRod |
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| 15:25.07 | PhilRod | heya pinotree |
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| 15:38.31 | SpeS | I want to make a jpg as the background of the wondow app, with all the other buttons, etc, on top of it |
| 15:38.51 | SpeS | is that possible in Qtdesigner? |
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| 16:09.14 | superstoned | thegladiator: open terminal, su (become superuser), type konqueror (enter) |
| 16:09.50 | superstoned | or ALT-F2 -> konqueror > options > run as other user > root |
| 16:09.51 | tstaerk | superstoned, he has gone |
| 16:10.11 | superstoned | tnx... the list here is a bit too long to see that quickly :D |
| 16:10.16 | tstaerk | other answer: kdesu "konqueror --openProfile filemanagement" |
| 16:10.27 | superstoned | yeah |
| 16:10.35 | superstoned | a million ways to do it, actually :D |
| 16:10.44 | superstoned | like most stuff in KDE... |
| 16:10.55 | tstaerk | superstoned, with suse, you won't come far on X with su. You will have to use sux (or export your $DISPLAY) |
| 16:11.08 | superstoned | aah, yes, that's right... |
| 16:11.12 | superstoned | kdesu is better |
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| 16:11.47 | tstaerk | how did this article write: "best practises recommend" and then what's most simple. yeahyeah... |
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| 16:17.15 | ap0linuX | hey |
| 16:17.26 | ap0linuX | somebody installed xfree 4.5 |
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| 16:19.07 | radome | anyone using Konqueror successfully with comcast Web Mail Client? My installation doesn't do well with the CONTENT="0; URL=/wmc/v/wmgoto" thing. If I manually add it to the http://mailcenter.comcast.net/ It works. Whats up? |
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| 16:20.57 | _Hug[o]_ | hello, I clicked in Konqueror on "never for site" for saving password, how can I remove the exemption for that website? |
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| 16:23.06 | tstaerk | _Hug[o]_ was a bit fast |
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| 16:24.35 | tstaerk | _Hug[o]_, try |
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| 16:25.06 | tstaerk | mv .kde/share/config/konquerorrc backupfile |
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| 16:25.35 | tstaerk | _Hug[o]_, then restart your konqueror. It will have pure default settings. Test that your setting went away. |
| 16:26.03 | tstaerk | _Hug[o]_, then, have a look at backupfile, see what line it is, and restore konquerorrc. Understood ? |
| 16:26.36 | ap0linuX | when I upgrade xfree dist, I have to reinstall kde too? |
| 16:27.06 | _valmery_ | salut tous le monde |
| 16:27.08 | tstaerk | ap0linuX, I guess so - because kde links the XFree86-devel / xorg-devel |
| 16:27.21 | _Hug[o]_ | tstaerk, ok. |
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| 16:27.29 | tstaerk | _valmery_, salut, ca va ? Peut-etre tu veux visiter kde_fr |
| 16:27.36 | ap0linuX | hm...ok |
| 16:27.51 | Vespoli | :P |
| 16:28.02 | tstaerk | ap0linuX, so, the question is if these libs are binary-compatible. |
| 16:28.19 | ap0linuX | yes..i have installed the binary distro |
| 16:28.49 | tstaerk | ap0linuX, that has nothing to do with it - which distro ? |
| 16:29.12 | tstaerk | ap0linuX, however, short answer: be prepared you will have to rebuild KDE. |
| 16:29.19 | _valmery_ | excuse me |
| 16:29.23 | ap0linuX | ups.. |
| 16:29.58 | _valmery_ | why you speek in english please |
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| 16:30.23 | _valmery_ | and in france |
| 16:30.26 | tstaerk | _valmery_, because there is no language-specific extension on this channel like kde-de or kde-fr |
| 16:30.31 | _valmery_ | frensh |
| 16:30.38 | Vespoli | :o |
| 16:30.44 | _valmery_ | pfff |
| 16:30.51 | _valmery_ | c nul |
| 16:30.52 | Vespoli | _valmery_, http://babelfish.altavista.com ;) |
| 16:30.56 | _valmery_ | bye bye |
| 16:30.59 | Vespoli | :( |
| 16:31.20 | tstaerk | :( |
| 16:31.43 | _valmery_ | au putin fait chier ici |
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| 16:35.16 | nuxil | hello ppl.. i have a issue with the keybord and its a kde issue.. my num pad does not work under kde.. but when im in concole it works fine... can some one help me pls |
| 16:35.38 | Khaytsus | Hit numlock? |
| 16:35.41 | Vespoli | x issue? |
| 16:35.43 | Vespoli | :P |
| 16:35.44 | nuxil | duh |
| 16:36.03 | nuxil | x issue? hmm |
| 16:36.04 | Vespoli | hmmh |
| 16:36.12 | nuxil | need to look into thaT |
| 16:36.15 | Vespoli | err -- uhm :-/ |
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| 16:39.03 | untitled | hi |
| 16:39.13 | untitled | /opt/kde/bin/superkaramba: error while loading shared libraries: libpython2.4.so.1.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 16:39.34 | untitled | superkaramba gives that message...where can i get this lib? |
| 16:39.55 | untitled | i have installed python 2.4... |
| 16:40.04 | untitled | doesn't work |
| 16:40.38 | StevenR-laptop | untitled: run ldconfig and try again |
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| 16:41.21 | untitled | nope |
| 16:41.30 | untitled | the same message |
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| 16:41.51 | gioeleb | hi |
| 16:42.15 | gioeleb | is there a way to force konqueror to read and write all filenames as UTF-8? |
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| 16:46.12 | Whisky_ | my systems giving me alot of lag eventhough i just installed Debian a few hours ago. I'm using KDE 3.3 as it comes with Debian 3.1. I see lags when switching between applications and/or while switching between tabs of firefox and also when minimizing/maximizing applications. I have a 1.8 GHz P4 processor with 512mb RAM. |
| 16:47.27 | Khaytsus | Use top to show top cpu usage and top ram usage |
| 16:47.35 | Khaytsus | Most likely your system is doing something in the background |
| 16:47.44 | Khaytsus | Such as maybe prelinking applications to make them launch faster |
| 16:47.52 | Khaytsus | Although I'm not sure Debian is there yet |
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| 16:49.26 | Whisky_ | my system's 98% idle :/ |
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| 16:50.13 | nuxil | hmm im haveing this issue with the keybord.. can some one help me please... i cant get mu numpad to work in kde |
| 16:50.19 | untitled | i have that library in /usr/lib64/libpython2.4.so.1.0 |
| 16:50.35 | untitled | but karamba still doesn't work |
| 16:50.39 | nuxil | i checked my xorg file and it seem fine |
| 16:50.51 | untitled | is python 64bit then? |
| 16:50.57 | Khaytsus | nuxil: You sure it's a numpad issue or an X issue.. Try a simple xterm session tos ee if it works there |
| 16:52.13 | nuxil | ermmmm jesus.. i figered out,, :O shit +numlock :P |
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| 16:56.33 | Karat3 | hi |
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| 16:57.01 | Karat3 | is there xmpp support in Konqueror? |
| 16:57.36 | gioeleb | Karat3: in konqueror? no. XMPP is supported by Kopete |
| 16:57.52 | gioeleb | why should a filemanager support a messaging protocol? |
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| 16:58.50 | Karat3 | gioeleb: but xmpp is not only a chat program |
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| 17:02.34 | Karat3 | gioeleb: do you understand? |
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| 17:18.47 | _StarScream | hey guys, just rebooted and for some reason i can't login to kde. I rm -rf all of /tmp and this is the output from startkde http://pastebin.com/459641 |
| 17:21.59 | PhilRod | _StarScream: do what line 26 says |
| 17:22.55 | _StarScream | PhilRod: whats 1777 though |
| 17:23.08 | _StarScream | can i just do chmod 1777 ? |
| 17:23.10 | PhilRod | chmod 1777 /tmp/.ICE-unix |
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| 17:24.02 | _StarScream | seems to be a dir, rm -rf * or is it just on the dir ? |
| 17:24.50 | _StarScream | and if kde is the one making the directory (because i cleaned all of /tmp out ) shouldn't it create it with the correct perms in the first place |
| 17:25.12 | litb | X created it, i think |
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| 17:25.23 | litb | or kdm |
| 17:25.34 | _StarScream | k here goes |
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| 17:27.15 | _StarScream | awesome |
| 17:27.29 | _StarScream | thanks PhilRod |
| 17:28.09 | gravix | anyone know of a really good usenet binary reader/downloader? klibido isn't doing it for me |
| 17:28.19 | gravix | (pun intended) |
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| 17:37.13 | StevenR | gravix: knode |
| 17:37.15 | StevenR | ? |
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| 17:43.46 | PhilRod | ~artstr |
| 17:43.47 | apt | [artstr] http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/faq/sound.html |
| 17:44.02 | Fritz | hm |
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| 17:44.50 | Fritz | ich glaub ich muss das handbuch erst mal lesen |
| 17:45.25 | litb | Fritz, what's your prob? |
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| 17:46.31 | Whisky_ | An error occurred while loading http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/faq/sound.html: |
| 17:46.34 | Whisky_ | Unknown host docs.kde.org |
| 17:46.44 | Fritz | ich kenne mich hier nicht aus, das ist alles |
| 17:46.46 | Whisky_ | i get this host error everytime i try to open a page with Konqueror |
| 17:47.14 | litb | Fritz: kannst du kein Englisch, dann könnten dir viel mehr Leute helfen... |
| 17:47.24 | Fritz | leider nein |
| 17:47.33 | Fritz | bin auch nur am probieren |
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| 17:47.42 | tstaerk | Fritz, please join #kde-de |
| 17:48.19 | Fritz | danke |
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| 17:48.30 | PhilRod | Whisky_: does, say, firefox work? Did you set a proxy for konqueror? |
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| 17:51.41 | Whisky_ | Yes, FireFox works and so does Mozilla. But Konqueror stopped working all of a sudden while browsing. |
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| 17:53.21 | gravix | knode seems more like a reader than a binary downloader but i'll check it out |
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| 17:53.23 | Spum | hey |
| 17:53.29 | Spum | How's KDE 4 coming along? |
| 17:54.05 | tstaerk | kwin does not work , all the rest yes |
| 17:54.29 | markey | you can use it from the cli ;) |
| 17:54.31 | Spum | progress seems to be ploughing along |
| 17:54.40 | Spum | ah hi markey |
| 17:54.46 | Spum | the amaroK guy right? |
| 17:54.50 | markey | heh yeah |
| 17:54.59 | Spum | Celeb ;-) |
| 17:55.07 | markey | ;) |
| 17:55.14 | Spum | did you post on grouphug? |
| 17:55.23 | Spum | "I think i may be out-celebbing micheal jackson" |
| 17:55.29 | markey | lol |
| 17:55.36 | markey | most of the confessions on grouphug are actually from me |
| 17:55.38 | markey | :P |
| 17:55.42 | Spum | hehe |
| 17:55.44 | Spum | ;-) |
| 17:55.50 | Spum | Hey, i forgot to ask |
| 17:55.56 | Spum | is amarok free to develop on? |
| 17:56.03 | Spum | eg - you can just get stuck righti n |
| 17:56.08 | markey | no, you'll have to pay us |
| 17:56.18 | Spum | Bastard |
| 17:56.27 | markey | of course you're invited to hack on it ;) |
| 17:56.35 | Spum | heh |
| 17:56.44 | Spum | I wouldnt mind becoming a bugfixer on some KDE project |
| 17:56.51 | Spum | just to get to grips with their codebase |
| 17:57.03 | markey | yeah cool, we'll assist you |
| 17:57.39 | Sho_ | Spum: Many bugs in KDEs Bugtracker are marked with "JJ" for "Junior Jobs" that should provide good opportunities to get going |
| 17:57.44 | Spum | heh |
| 17:57.47 | Spum | Sounds sexy |
| 17:57.54 | Spum | I've been working on ISPconfig currently |
| 17:58.02 | Spum | I'm just actually releasing a huge update very soon |
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| 17:58.11 | Spum | 42 more features than cPanel when i'm done |
| 17:59.03 | Sho_ | :) |
| 17:59.15 | Spum | Hmm |
| 17:59.18 | Spum | I wonder |
| 17:59.38 | Spum | How much money it would take to invest into a project to make it leapfrog a proprietary solution |
| 17:59.54 | Spum | I've got a lot of spare cash i'm interested in investing in an opensource image editor |
| 18:00.00 | Spum | not GIMP though, i dont like that |
| 18:00.25 | Spum | Or maybe i should fund a 10-man expedition to destroy cliff richard's career |
| 18:00.47 | Spum | <insert pun> |
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| 18:02.22 | markey | Krita :) |
| 18:02.25 | PhilRod | Spum: take a look at krita - it's quite actively developed, and apparently is quite promising |
| 18:02.33 | markey | indeed |
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| 18:05.16 | gravix | neat it has OpenEXR support |
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| 18:28.43 | paoleela | Hello. Where are the files in trash:/ stored? |
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| 18:29.26 | Spum | err |
| 18:29.39 | Spum | etc/abyss |
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| 18:42.27 | thiago | paoleela: in ~/.Trash and a couple of other places |
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| 18:49.52 | splitta | can't hear a thing out of Rosegarden...any ideas ? |
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| 18:54.56 | fhw49 | Hi |
| 18:55.04 | cee | can anyone recommend a good videoplayer? |
| 18:55.25 | thiago | mplayer |
| 18:55.29 | oGALAXYo | mplayer |
| 18:56.01 | cee | mplayer dosent come with a frontend? |
| 18:56.08 | straw | xine |
| 18:56.11 | gregday | cee: a crappy one, but there's kmplayer, |
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| 18:56.13 | oGALAXYo | for kde use kmplayer |
| 18:56.20 | oGALAXYo | or use kaffeine |
| 18:56.26 | Flying_Eagle | hi |
| 18:56.32 | oGALAXYo | moin |
| 18:56.46 | Flying_Eagle | or kaffeine with gstreamer 0.10 |
| 18:56.54 | oGALAXYo | jesus.. avoid gestreamer |
| 18:57.09 | oGALAXYo | use xine backend with kaffeine or use kmplayer + mplayer |
| 18:57.18 | fhw49 | what package is needed for mp3-support for konqueror? I use suse 10.0 with AMD x86_64. |
| 18:57.25 | gregday | gstreamer is fine as used in amarok :) |
| 18:57.32 | thiago | you don't need a frontend for a movie player |
| 18:57.51 | thiago | when I play a movie, I want to see a movie, not some frames and buttons around it to decrease screen real state |
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| 19:34.15 | robert_ | wth, I'm trying to get kde to run AS my user, but .ICEauthority keeps getting chown/chmod'ded to root / root with permissions of 0600 |
| 19:34.17 | robert_ | wtf |
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| 19:35.51 | robert_ | it won't start because it can't get write access to ~/.ICEauthority |
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| 19:38.54 | litb | see in /opt/kde3/share/config/kdm/kdmrc |
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| 19:38.54 | litb | or in your kdmrc file |
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| 19:39.33 | litb | i had a similar problem and changed the mode of .ICEautority like that |
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| 19:43.24 | robert_ | hm, help anybody? |
| 19:44.12 | robert_ | heh |
| 19:44.20 | robert_ | blah |
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| 19:53.33 | Oleg_ | I am thinking about installing fvwm or any other windows manager |
| 19:53.43 | Oleg_ | and use it for a while instead of kde |
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| 19:53.46 | Oleg_ | just for a change |
| 19:54.00 | Oleg_ | because I've been using kde for way too long |
| 19:54.32 | AssociateX | are there any plans to get rid of arts anytime soon or at least have the option to not use it and still have system sounds |
| 19:54.34 | AssociateX | ? |
| 19:55.23 | AssociateX | Oleg_, good idea, I did that too, but still I came back to kde |
| 19:55.32 | Oleg_ | yeah |
| 19:55.37 | Octave_Octet | AssociateX: KDE 4 |
| 19:55.58 | AssociateX | blackbox is very cool and one other one |
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| 19:56.10 | Octave_Octet | But more and more apps are now able to use another soundserver (juk for instance) |
| 19:56.17 | AssociateX | Octane, really? |
| 19:56.18 | AssociateX | GooD!!!! |
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| 19:56.59 | AssociateX | well, alsa seems to be enough for me for every thing else |
| 19:57.16 | AssociateX | I don't seem to need anything on top of it |
| 19:57.22 | AssociateX | s/it/asla |
| 19:57.27 | AssociateX | alsa* |
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| 19:58.05 | Octave_Octet | AssociateX: For juk for instance look in the configuration menu |
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| 19:58.31 | AssociateX | where do I find that? I don't even know if I have it installed |
| 19:58.54 | AssociateX | how do I run it? |
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| 19:59.30 | Octave_Octet | AssociateX: Well, if you do not run it, do not use it :) |
| 19:59.50 | Octave_Octet | Anyway you will be stuck with arts for system messages |
| 20:00.00 | Octave_Octet | Until kde 4 I guess |
| 20:00.11 | AssociateX | I don't have arts so blah, I don't have system sounds |
| 20:00.20 | litb | i don't have to use arts |
| 20:00.29 | litb | and he don't have to do it too |
| 20:00.39 | AssociateX | litb, do you have KDE system sounds? |
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| 20:00.57 | litb | well, i had |
| 20:01.02 | litb | with an external player |
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| 20:01.41 | AssociateX | I tried that too, which external player are you using? |
| 20:01.42 | litb | ogg123, for example |
| 20:01.59 | litb | using alsa dmix? |
| 20:02.05 | AssociateX | how does that work with the wav system sounds? |
| 20:02.16 | AssociateX | no, no dmix here |
| 20:02.19 | litb | if not, you cannot use kde systemsound while playing another sound, that's bad |
| 20:03.03 | litb | consider to use it. it's really simple to set up |
| 20:03.14 | AssociateX | alsa mixes all my other sounds, like if I'm running xmms and mplayer the sounds mix fine |
| 20:03.59 | litb | ah, ok. then what's the problem with an external program? |
| 20:04.35 | AssociateX | nothing, I'm just asking which you are using because I have not gotten kde system sounds to work yet |
| 20:04.47 | AssociateX | btw, what distro are you using? |
| 20:05.00 | litb | suse 9.1, but that's regardless |
| 20:05.08 | litb | since i've updated everything by hand |
| 20:05.09 | AssociateX | no that's not |
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| 20:05.21 | litb | why? |
| 20:05.38 | AssociateX | suse or debian have it set up differently where it's easy to not use arts with kde |
| 20:05.44 | AssociateX | I just don't remember which one |
| 20:05.56 | litb | suse doesn't have set up anything on my kde |
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| 20:06.06 | litb | i've installed it using sources |
| 20:06.20 | elirips | hello. is there a tool available for ark, so it can extract .ace-files? |
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| 20:06.37 | AssociateX | one of the two have rewriten the kde code and blah blah blah make kde work without arts with ease |
| 20:07.18 | AssociateX | but since I don't remember which one, I'll cut this one short |
| 20:07.22 | litb | suse is only present in glibc and a hand of other libs, but not big programs like kde or the kernel |
| 20:07.32 | AssociateX | I don't have the info to back it up |
| 20:07.51 | Sho_ | litb: define "present" |
| 20:08.24 | litb | being there |
| 20:08.44 | Sho_ | litb: SuSE employs several KDE developers |
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| 20:09.01 | litb | since i've still not updated glibc |
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| 20:09.28 | litb | yes, i wanted to say that i'm using official KDE packages, not the SuSE/openSuSE ones |
| 20:10.14 | Sho_ | there are actually no official KDE binary packages ... the KDE suse packages are contributed by SuSE :) |
| 20:10.38 | litb | but official source packages :) |
| 20:12.06 | SMiLeaf | litb: there are suse developers working on the linux kernel. |
| 20:12.51 | SMiLeaf | Signed-off-by: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de> <--- line from the 2.6.15-rc5 changelog. |
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| 20:13.08 | SMiLeaf | line 59 to be exact ;) |
| 20:14.00 | AssociateX | while we are at it, anyone know which one that has the kde that does not need arts? suse or debian |
| 20:14.13 | AssociateX | it might even be some other one but I don't think so |
| 20:14.29 | SMiLeaf | I don't use either so no clue :/ |
| 20:14.37 | Sho_ | KDE does not need arts |
| 20:14.44 | litb | yes... i just want to say i use kernels from www.kernel.org- but NOT from suse RPMs |
| 20:14.57 | AssociateX | darn, about 5 days ago there was someone in here explaining it clearly |
| 20:15.13 | SMiLeaf | litb: afaik .. there are no official linux kernel rpms |
| 20:15.33 | litb | exactly the point |
| 20:15.38 | AssociateX | Sho_, what do you mean? and I'm talking about still having kde system sounds |
| 20:15.55 | litb | because of that, i have to compile it from sources because i don't want to use suse rpms |
| 20:16.03 | SMiLeaf | litb: why? |
| 20:16.36 | AssociateX | if suse has an rpm for a kernel I bet they have patches on it |
| 20:16.36 | litb | because I want to use always the newest software. |
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| 20:16.45 | Sho_ | AssociateX: It can be compiled with --disable-arts, and the KControl UI for system notifications allows you to specify an alternate player for those sounds (e.g. alsaplay or something like that) |
| 20:17.46 | AssociateX | Sho_, I did compile every thing without arts, so now to try alsaplay |
| 20:17.51 | SMiLeaf | litb: well if that's the case.. you'll be doing an aweful lot of compiling. :) |
| 20:18.12 | litb | and in addition. i'm using -ck kernels |
| 20:18.34 | litb | i've a fast machine. it's capable of compiling the kernel in 5mins |
| 20:18.43 | AssociateX | I'm on gentoo but not too much ~x86 |
| 20:18.47 | SMiLeaf | now do you mean .. just the newest kernel.. or _all_ your softwore? |
| 20:19.49 | litb | well, i can't keep my system really up-to-date. but if i see new versions of software i've installed, i will update them |
| 20:20.03 | Sho_ | litb: It would seem that Gentoo Linux is for you |
| 20:20.26 | AssociateX | A kernel should only take about 5 minutes to compile anyway, unless you have a bunch of weird stuff like isdn, hamradio, and some other obscure things but then it might only take 10 minutes at the most. |
| 20:20.35 | litb | i'm unsure about this. gentoo have packages too, havent' they? |
| 20:21.07 | AssociateX | when I first used linux I compiled a kernel using the mandrake .config and it ran for an hour, lol |
| 20:21.36 | litb | or can i easily build gentoo packages using original tar.gz packages? |
| 20:21.37 | benJIman | AssociateX: the modules take long time to compile if you compile them all |
| 20:21.39 | AssociateX | litb, yes if you want some binary, they offer *some* |
| 20:21.45 | benJIman | which most binary distros do |
| 20:21.47 | Sho_ | litb: Well, a Gentoo package is a text file containing instructions how to build it and thus easily updated |
| 20:21.55 | AssociateX | benJIman, haha, yeah tell me about it |
| 20:22.01 | benJIman | AssociateX: it's a good thing |
| 20:22.11 | benJIman | AssociateX: you don't want to be recompiling your kernel if you plug in some new hardware |
| 20:22.43 | litb | you mean, config options for ./configure and make options, env-vars and so on? |
| 20:22.45 | AssociateX | benJIman, I learned to edit the .config file and cut my compile time down |
| 20:23.01 | litb | then it's really for me. i will have a look at it again :) |
| 20:23.09 | Sho_ | litb: yup, exactly |
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| 20:23.13 | luciash | hello |
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| 20:23.36 | benJIman | AssociateX: if you do that your system can't cope with hardware change though, depends if you want to save a little time compiling to create lots of hassle for you later |
| 20:23.46 | luciash | any idea how to run konqueror with a session ? |
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| 20:24.13 | Sho_ | luciash: konqueror --profile <profile name> |
| 20:24.24 | luciash | i logged off with auto save session but when i logged in back the konq with all opened tabs didn't open anymore |
| 20:24.43 | benJIman | luciash: or kfmclient openProfile <profile name> which will iirc reuse existing preloaded versions |
| 20:24.45 | millere | hey, newbie here. i have konqueror 3.4. i'm wondering how to install xpacman on suse 10 |
| 20:24.54 | luciash | i don't need profile, i need back auto-saved session |
| 20:25.13 | benJIman | luciash: you mean view profiles? how did you save it |
| 20:25.26 | benJIman | view profiles save the state of all the open tabs etc |
| 20:25.32 | luciash | it worked (loaded automagically) until my last logoff |
| 20:26.13 | luciash | not profiles, KDE has auto-save session feature and it loads konq with all last opened tabs when you re-login |
| 20:26.45 | benJIman | ah kde's session management |
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| 20:27.18 | benJIman | kcontrol -> kde components -> session manager if you've turned that off somehow |
| 20:27.18 | luciash | yup, but last time it failed to load it back but i believe there are some sessions still saved but dunno how to oload it back manually |
| 20:27.47 | benJIman | I don't know how/if you can load them manually, hmm have a look in /home/benji/.kde/share/config/session |
| 20:27.53 | benJIman | s/benji/yourusername |
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| 20:28.38 | benJIman | if you want to store a tab layout permanently if's probably best to use the view profiles |
| 20:28.41 | luciash | nope, benJIman, i haven't changed it, it's still turned on but last log-off somehow failed to save it and load it back again so i lost all the opened tabs :-/ |
| 20:29.11 | benJIman | luciash: view profiles best if you want to be certain it's saved |
| 20:29.19 | luciash | i know, but that would need my manual saving each time i would log-off which isn't the best way |
| 20:30.03 | AssociateX | benJIman, ah, not really. I compiled this kernel with my own .config from scratch and built the box too myself, still no hassles. If I add hardware that needs a new module, I just build that module, no problems. |
| 20:30.07 | luciash | ok, i'll try to figure it out myself if you don't know ... |
| 20:30.47 | benJIman | AssociateX: yes, well it's a compromise, you need to build the module, vs it just working |
| 20:30.49 | luciash | they're in ~/.kde/share/config/session |
| 20:30.58 | benJIman | yes as I just said |
| 20:31.09 | luciash | but dunno how to specify it on cnd lien for konq |
| 20:31.43 | benJIman | try konqueror --session <filename> |
| 20:31.56 | AssociateX | benJIman, oh, now I follow. Sure I guess, I guess |
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| 20:32.45 | AssociateX | benJIman, you are right about that, because with mandrake everything just friggin worked |
| 20:32.47 | benJIman | AssociateX: there's no disadvantage to having everything built, other than initial compile time |
| 20:33.02 | benJIman | and if you use precompiled kernel that's not an issue |
| 20:33.22 | luciash | it says "konqueror: WARNING: Unknown class in session saved data!" |
| 20:33.23 | benJIman | there's not really any reason you'd need to recompile the kernel for 99% of people |
| 20:33.28 | AssociateX | I'm still going to stick with my source kernels though |
| 20:33.43 | benJIman | luciash: remove the konqueror_ from the front |
| 20:33.49 | robert_ | meh |
| 20:33.53 | luciash | when i run konqueror --session konqueror_1014814313e96000113399887800000242460015_1134331178_718101 |
| 20:34.06 | luciash | ah, benJIman, i'll try |
| 20:34.57 | AssociateX | benJIman, source compiles can be smaller, loading less into memory and so on, but you are right, 99% of people don't care and are probably just useing what ever redhat is called now a days |
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| 20:35.51 | benJIman | AssociateX: suse kde in 10 has kdemm backported, probably what you were thinking of btw |
| 20:36.16 | robert_ | what would be making my .ICEauthority unreadable to my user? |
| 20:36.20 | AssociateX | benJIman, that's it then. Thank you for the info |
| 20:37.06 | AssociateX | litb, did you read that? |
| 20:37.16 | benJIman | AssociateX: performance difference with modules vs stuff compiled into kernel is negligible |
| 20:37.28 | robert_ | Ok |
| 20:37.55 | robert_ | why would my .ICEauthority automagically change owners and permissions when starting kde? |
| 20:38.17 | benJIman | robert_: is it chowned when you startX or when you start kde? |
| 20:38.33 | luciash | thanks benJIman, it works but loaded different session. that one i want is definitely lost it seems :( |
| 20:38.47 | robert_ | Hm, I can try to find out |
| 20:38.49 | benJIman | it probably wasn't saved, perhaps session manager timed out and was killed |
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| 20:39.05 | luciash | benJIman: most probably, yes :( |
| 20:39.11 | benJIman | view profiles are best if it's vital it's restored |
| 20:39.27 | octan_ | where can i find the kmdr-editor and kmdr-executor |
| 20:39.40 | litb | AsscociateX, what did i read? |
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| 20:40.01 | AssociateX | benJIman, binary kernels have both statically compiled stuff and modules, that does not matter much. What matters is having the kernel tuned for that box that it's on... well at least for me. and yeah, 3 seconds does matter even though I spent several months figuring it all out. |
| 20:40.15 | luciash | benJIman: i wonder how different firefox extensions do it. they get restored even when crashed/killed |
| 20:40.17 | benJIman | octan_: kdewebdev |
| 20:40.18 | AssociateX | litb, are you using suse? |
| 20:40.25 | litb | yes |
| 20:40.29 | AssociateX | ok |
| 20:40.32 | litb | but not suse kde |
| 20:40.44 | AssociateX | litb, benJIman AssociateX: suse kde in 10 has kdemm backported, probably what you were thinking of btw |
| 20:40.46 | benJIman | luciash: kde has an extension to restore session after crash |
| 20:41.06 | AssociateX | litb, suse makes it really easy to not use arts |
| 20:41.10 | luciash | oh, really ? what's that benJIman ? |
| 20:41.17 | benJIman | luciash: settings -> configure extensions -> tools -> crashes monitor |
| 20:41.27 | litb | ah, thx for inform me |
| 20:41.31 | benJIman | then you can tools -> crashes -> select |
| 20:41.45 | AssociateX | litb, no prob |
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| 20:41.58 | luciash | thanks a bunch benJIman, i'll try that. see u later :) |
| 20:42.00 | benJIman | litb: even if you're not using suse kde packages you can get their patches from the source rpms if you want to apply any |
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| 20:43.00 | litb | hm, i will wait for KDE4 when it will be supported by kde devs |
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| 20:45.09 | AssociateX | benJIman, I don't think litb has a problem with it, but if you could help me on that, that would be cool as heck. |
| 20:45.42 | benJIman | AssociateX: well if you have a tool to extract rpms you can grab the suse srpms and get the patches |
| 20:45.50 | benJIman | is rpm in portage? |
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| 20:46.10 | AssociateX | yes |
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| 20:46.14 | luciash | re |
| 20:46.17 | AssociateX | let me set that up right now |
| 20:46.20 | benJIman | the patches are here I Think but not sure how up to date these ones are vs the src rpms http://ktown.kde.org/~binner/distributor-patches/SUSE/10.0-beta2/ |
| 20:46.47 | benJIman | the latest kde srpms will be on any suse mirror |
| 20:46.55 | luciash | benJIman: i couldn't find it in my kcontrol. what version of KDE was it introduced ? i'm still using 3.4.2 |
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| 20:47.25 | benJIman | luciash: settings menu in konqueror |
| 20:47.27 | litb | that's why i will wait. these patches are for kde3.4 but i use kde3.5 |
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| 20:47.45 | benJIman | litb: same patches in suse's kde 3.5 build |
| 20:47.53 | AssociateX | benJIman, I'm installing the rpm stuff now |
| 20:48.05 | luciash | or maybe i haven't that package with my distro installed |
| 20:48.15 | benJIman | luciash: konqueror -> settings -> configure extensions -> tools -> crashes monitor |
| 20:48.20 | luciash | benJIman: it lists none there in Konqueror |
| 20:48.29 | benJIman | luciash: under the tools tab? |
| 20:48.30 | luciash | under tools |
| 20:48.36 | luciash | yep |
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| 20:48.52 | luciash | under both in fact |
| 20:49.02 | litb | nvidia drivers crashed my X server... |
| 20:49.28 | benJIman | luciash: should look like http://bw.uwcs.co.uk/screenshots/konqextend.png |
| 20:50.06 | AssociateX | litb, nvidia works fine for me, what are you doing differently? |
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| 20:50.32 | AssociateX | 2.6 and udev? |
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| 20:50.59 | litb | yes |
| 20:51.19 | litb | perhaps it's my uptime (21107s) |
| 20:51.38 | benJIman | luciash: are you using gentoo? |
| 20:52.26 | AssociateX | 2.6.13 and udev had some problems with nvidia and udev making the proper /dev |
| 20:52.28 | litb | amarok and xchat and a few firefox were run. and - suddenly - X were restarted by kdm. bad... |
| 20:52.39 | litb | i'm using 2.6.14 |
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| 20:52.53 | benJIman | yeah I had issue with that on suse 10, udev decided to remove the device after a reboot |
| 20:52.56 | luciash | benJIman: looks cool but mine looks like this: http://img174.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snap00189be.jpg |
| 20:52.59 | AssociateX | 2.6.13 and greaterr |
| 20:53.05 | benJIman | only happend to me once though |
| 20:53.10 | luciash | benJIman: noep, mandrake/mandriva |
| 20:53.14 | AssociateX | I'm on 2.6.14 too |
| 20:53.26 | AssociateX | hold on, I'll find the simpl;e fox for that |
| 20:53.33 | benJIman | luciash: hmmm, there should be 3 tabs there too |
| 20:53.48 | benJIman | actually maybe the 3rd tab is in 3.5 |
| 20:53.54 | luciash | yup |
| 20:54.00 | benJIman | but the crashes monitor has been arround for several kde versions |
| 20:54.12 | luciash | i'll search what kde packages i don't have installed yet |
| 20:54.27 | luciash | thanks for the hints again |
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| 20:55.51 | AssociateX | litb, /sbin/NVmakedevices.sh |
| 20:55.59 | AssociateX | do you have that file |
| 20:56.17 | litb | no |
| 20:56.22 | AssociateX | or NVmakedevices.sh as root |
| 20:56.43 | AssociateX | do you want it? |
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| 20:57.50 | danielt | Hello |
| 20:58.12 | luciash | bye |
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| 20:59.03 | litb | AssociateX, i have /dev/nvidia* |
| 20:59.03 | uwe|hus-place | IS www.kde-look.org down ? |
| 20:59.04 | litb | but, yes i want it |
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| 20:59.28 | litb | yes, it's down |
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| 21:00.12 | AssociateX | litb, use your suse tools to find it or I'll send it to you |
| 21:00.54 | AssociateX | litb, how many files show up with ls /dev/nvidia*? |
| 21:01.11 | litb | but my problem is that X crashes after hours running properly |
| 21:01.12 | AssociateX | I have 9 |
| 21:01.35 | AssociateX | oh |
| 21:01.48 | AssociateX | I don't know what that would be |
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| 21:01.50 | litb | "ls /dev/nvidia* | wc -w" returns 9 |
| 21:01.57 | AssociateX | ok, |
| 21:02.53 | litb | if i miss some file, it would not start X, am I right? |
| 21:03.33 | litb | however, i don#t know what these files are for |
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| 21:04.42 | un1v4c | Hi! |
| 21:04.55 | un1v4c | Can you go to kde-look.org ? (I can't ) |
| 21:05.31 | litb | we all can't |
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| 21:12.04 | roz_ | is kde-apps.org down for everyone? |
| 21:12.26 | uwe|hus-place | yes here roz_ |
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| 21:12.42 | parph | hi, can koffice read/write/modify word documents? |
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| 21:12.44 | LighTer | http://wretchedgaming.co.nr/ |
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| 21:12.45 | aimtrainer | hi, I installed quake3 and the sound wouldn't work. Now I use aRts (artsdsp -m quake3) but the sound is delayed. Somewhere I read configuring arts might help, but how? There are hardly any options in the control center. Found out there is a tool artsbuilder but I cant install it as it would delete like half of my installed packages. SO does anyone have an ide ... please :) |
| 21:12.58 | Kovecses | parph: yes i think so |
| 21:13.07 | uwe|hus-place | roz_, yes == cant |
| 21:13.24 | litb | parph, with libwv2 it can at least read them |
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| 21:14.33 | Kovecses | i think there is a plugin to read and write |
| 21:15.24 | parph | oh |
| 21:15.41 | AssociateX | I'm installing all the flux stuff right now |
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| 21:18.37 | Kovecses | the fonts look funny in konqueror when I browse the web... |
| 21:19.02 | uwe|hus-place | Kovecses, maybe getting other fonts might help |
| 21:19.12 | Kovecses | well yes I agree |
| 21:19.23 | Kovecses | what is the standard font? |
| 21:19.47 | Kovecses | for actuall web browsing |
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| 21:20.40 | uwe|hus-place | hmmm ... im not sure, sarif and sans-serif fonts should be the generic name for most used fonts |
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| 21:21.35 | ralf | hi all |
| 21:21.40 | Kovecses | cool thanks sans looks alot better |
| 21:21.45 | Kovecses | hello |
| 21:21.50 | ralf | what kde program lets me use a digital camera? |
| 21:21.53 | gregday | WHOA |
| 21:21.55 | ralf | it is a canon one |
| 21:22.05 | gregday | ralf: Digikam, which uses libgphoto2 as a backend |
| 21:22.12 | ralf | tnx |
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| 21:24.06 | benJIman | you can also use camera:/ kioslave |
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| 21:24.15 | nordle | Slackware 10.2 + KDE 3.5 Slackware contrib packages. Hi, I was wondering if this might be something others have noticed. When using ark to unpack a archive, it works with 1MB archives, but I tried one which is 13MB and it fails. It sais "An error occured while trying to open the archive". I can use tar xvzf on the archive, so know its fine. This problem happened before, with kde 3.05a I think, I've checked the bug db but found nothing.... Can anyone els |
| 21:24.16 | nordle | e verify that they can/cannot unpack >12MB files with Ark in KDE 3.5.0? Thanks! |
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| 21:34.11 | AssociateX | kde needs to drop artsd like a hot potato |
| 21:34.33 | AssociateX | it is the only thing that sucks about kde |
| 21:34.55 | AssociateX | everything else is sooooo friggin cool.... then there is arts |
| 21:35.05 | Sho_ | AssociateX: it likely will in the future |
| 21:35.18 | PhilRod | AssociateX: get on the kde-multimedia list, where you can help with making its replacement |
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| 21:35.33 | Sho_ | AssociateX: arts was conceived at a time when it was a good solution to a problem which no longer exists :) |
| 21:35.33 | Tamara` | Hi all, KDE-sound keeps crashing on me, even though, I'm currently not playing any sound, but when browsing, it keps crashing and sometimes, even closing some applications. This is my error - This content is stored as http://sial.org/pbot/14880 |
| 21:35.39 | sredna | Hm, anyone got k3b working with 2.6.14 kernel and hald running? |
| 21:35.47 | Sho_ | sredna: yup |
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| 21:36.03 | protium | I'll second that comment about arts |
| 21:36.09 | protium | Truly awful |
| 21:36.12 | sredna | Sho_: Dbus/udev/hal versions please? |
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| 21:36.46 | sredna | Well, in the next iteration, there will be choices for multimedia backends |
| 21:36.50 | Sho_ | sredna: No idea what I had at the time ... right now I'm on 2.5.15-rc5, udev 0.77, dbus 0.50 and hal 0.5.5.1 |
| 21:36.53 | benJIman | Tamara`: are you using kubuntu? |
| 21:36.57 | protium | 4.0, sredna? |
| 21:36.59 | Sho_ | sredna: 2.6.14 was a while ago =) |
| 21:37.08 | Tamara` | benJIman: No, I'm on slackware 10.2 |
| 21:37.25 | Sho_ | sredna: probably udev 0.71 and otherwise the same, though |
| 21:37.28 | AssociateX | PhilRod, alsa is already there, no need for a new solution |
| 21:37.32 | sredna | Sho_: It works with my old kernel - 2.6.11, but I can't get 2.6.14 working |
| 21:37.36 | Tamara` | with a KDE 3.4 |
| 21:37.51 | benJIman | arts isn't that bad, look at esd |
| 21:37.57 | PhilRod | AssociateX: erm, and how would I use the Advanced Linux Sound Architecture on my FreeBSD box? |
| 21:37.59 | protium | They're all bad |
| 21:38.01 | sredna | I have dbus 0.60, but that doesn't seem to be the problem |
| 21:38.07 | protium | There really isn't a good choice out there |
| 21:38.10 | benJIman | alsa dmix is truely awful though |
| 21:38.17 | protium | I have to say that DirectX is far far better |
| 21:38.18 | Tamara` | ? |
| 21:38.32 | benJIman | it sounds like radio quality when mixing several sounds |
| 21:38.46 | Sho_ | protium: you're comparing artsd to directx? huh? |
| 21:38.51 | AssociateX | PhilRod, I don't use fbsd and so don't care about that, that is something that you have to ask else where. |
| 21:38.53 | protium | The sound management |
| 21:38.58 | protium | Nothing else |
| 21:39.18 | protium | But DirectX handles multiple audio streams from different programs far better |
| 21:39.21 | benJIman | AssociateX: kde has to be portable |
| 21:39.30 | Sho_ | protium: I wasn't aware that Win32 apps generally use DirectSound for audio playback |
| 21:39.38 | PhilRod | AssociateX: what benJIman said |
| 21:39.41 | protium | Quite a few do |
| 21:39.43 | litb | alsa dmix is really good |
| 21:39.49 | AssociateX | benJIman, well then make arts an option not a mandate |
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| 21:39.58 | benJIman | AssociateX: it will be |
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| 21:40.20 | Sho_ | well, of course there are differing opinions on "it has to be portable" :) |
| 21:40.24 | protium | It's not necessary, but a LOT do. IT's convenient, because the API is pretty much always there |
| 21:40.28 | AssociateX | benJIman, and I'm looking forward to that |
| 21:40.46 | PhilRod | ~arts-kde4 |
| 21:40.47 | apt | arts is unmaintained, for KDE 4 (and not before) there will probably be a backend independent architecture allowing you to choose what sound engine (or none) to use via an abstracted API, if you want to know more, you should read the 5 or 6 hundred post long thread on the kde-multimedia mailing list archives |
| 21:41.00 | benJIman | or use the suse patches |
| 21:41.10 | benJIman | but you will still need arts for some apps even with suse patches |
| 21:41.13 | Sho_ | protium: Didn't DirectX have major limitations in cases of multiple applications trying to access the same resources? |
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| 21:41.31 | Tamara` | Anybody, knows what the problem is? |
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| 21:42.15 | protium | That far in depth, I am not sure. Never tried to access it with my own apps, so... |
| 21:42.25 | protium | My programming is week ;-) |
| 21:42.36 | protium | I make a better biologist |
| 21:42.42 | litb | i had winodws media player opened 50 times playing an audio file. all files played smoothly |
| 21:42.43 | protium | Or sysadmin |
| 21:42.49 | litb | i hope kde4 will do so too |
| 21:43.21 | protium | I still think that audio management is one of the greatest hurdles to desktop adoption for Linux |
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| 21:43.35 | protium | They fixed most other problems now |
| 21:43.38 | Sho_ | I don't know ... I have no problems at all |
| 21:43.43 | PhilRod | ~artstr |
| 21:43.44 | apt | i heard artstr is http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/faq/sound.html |
| 21:43.47 | Sho_ | but then I have a proper soundcard that is capable of hardware mixing |
| 21:43.51 | PhilRod | Tamara`: take a look at the suggestions in that link |
| 21:44.05 | Sho_ | The AC97 OEM crap is the problem :) |
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| 21:44.22 | protium | Yeah, and that's deprecated now |
| 21:44.25 | Kovecses | how do i get flash in konq....? |
| 21:44.33 | protium | But that's often the best driver for most out there |
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| 21:44.50 | protium | Depends on your distro Kovecss |
| 21:44.53 | Sho_ | aside from that, the biggest hurdle right now is wireless IMO |
| 21:45.03 | protium | wireless is not terrible |
| 21:45.07 | Kovecses | protium: gentoo |
| 21:45.13 | protium | I almost think it's morestable in Linux |
| 21:45.15 | Sho_ | the drivers mostly suck, the GUIs are a mess, ... |
| 21:45.29 | protium | Yeah |
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| 21:45.35 | protium | But more debugging options |
| 21:45.42 | Kovecses | what are you guys talking about? |
| 21:45.55 | Tamara` | PhilRod: (no debugging symbols found) ? |
| 21:45.55 | protium | there should be a flash ebuild out there Kovecss |
| 21:46.02 | Sho_ | Kovecses: sound and wireless drivers/problems |
| 21:46.08 | Kovecses | in linux |
| 21:46.21 | protium | Yeah, KDE is mostly for Linux still |
| 21:46.23 | Sho_ | Kovecses: on gentoo, emerge net-www/netscape-flash |
| 21:46.31 | Sho_ | Kovecses: yup, in Linux |
| 21:46.43 | Kovecses | yeah wireless in linux is still pretty bad... but sound is getting alot better |
| 21:46.44 | protium | Impressive that you knew the package name Sho_ |
| 21:46.51 | Kovecses | thanks Sho_ |
| 21:46.56 | Sho_ | protium: Well, I'm running Gentoo on two boxes here |
| 21:46.58 | protium | I usually did the 'ol emerage search.... |
| 21:47.09 | protium | Ah, it's been a long time for me |
| 21:47.23 | protium | IT's alright, but a lot of work |
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| 21:47.42 | Sho_ | Kovecses: That will install the plug-in to /usr/lib/nsbrowser/plugins |
| 21:47.57 | PhilRod | Tamara`: the suggestions at the link given by apt: |
| 21:47.59 | PhilRod | ~artstr |
| 21:48.00 | apt | i heard artstr is http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/faq/sound.html |
| 21:48.01 | Sho_ | Kovecses: The next step is to look in your Konqueror prefs, "Plug-Ins", if /usr/lib/nsbrowser/plugins is included in the directories it looks in |
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| 21:48.08 | Kovecses | Sho_: emerging now |
| 21:48.09 | Sho_ | Kovecses: If not, add that path, and click "Search for new plug-ins" |
| 21:48.12 | Kovecses | Sho_: got ya |
| 21:48.17 | Sho_ | Kovecses: And then you've got it |
| 21:48.38 | protium | Konqueror is stating to get pretty good |
| 21:48.42 | protium | I like it quite a bit |
| 21:48.48 | Kovecses | Sho_: picked it up auto |
| 21:48.58 | Tamara` | hrm... |
| 21:49.01 | Kovecses | i like konq |
| 21:49.16 | Sho_ | :) |
| 21:49.32 | march1980 | anyone knows a program for kde showing allocation of partitions and folders? |
| 21:50.01 | Sho_ | march1980: If you got kdeaddons installed, there will be "File Size View" in View -> View Mode in Konq |
| 21:50.19 | protium | I just used df |
| 21:50.19 | litb | march1980, kdf ? |
| 21:50.23 | Sho_ | march1980: An alternative is FileLight, which shows a radial map |
| 21:51.01 | march1980 | that is it, thanks |
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| 21:51.14 | sredna | Sho_: Would you mind showing my your kernel configuration? I simply can't see what I do wrong :( |
| 21:51.24 | Kovecses | americas army is huge |
| 21:51.26 | Sho_ | sredna: sure, one sec |
| 21:51.29 | Kovecses | but worth it |
| 21:51.37 | protium | The donload? |
| 21:51.41 | protium | typo |
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| 21:51.49 | march1980 | the last time, I used it, it was a single program |
| 21:51.55 | Kovecses | protium: yes its like 800 megs |
| 21:52.10 | Sho_ | sredna: http://www.eikehein.com/config-2.6.15-rc5 |
| 21:52.10 | protium | Try downloading WoW sometime |
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| 21:52.19 | Kovecses | protium: is it free? |
| 21:52.23 | protium | Trial is |
| 21:52.27 | protium | 14 days |
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| 21:52.34 | Kovecses | damn |
| 21:52.44 | sredna | Sho_: Thanks a lot :) |
| 21:52.55 | benJIman | americas army is great |
| 21:53.04 | Kovecses | yes it is |
| 21:53.09 | protium | 2.5 a a big improvement? |
| 21:53.13 | Kovecses | huge |
| 21:53.21 | Kovecses | way better now |
| 21:53.31 | protium | Interesting |
| 21:53.35 | protium | I should get it |
| 21:53.48 | protium | Very little to lose ;-) |
| 21:53.51 | parph | i would play it if it weren't a recruiting tool for americas army |
| 21:53.57 | Kovecses | the true combat enemy-territory mod is pretty sweet too |
| 21:54.16 | Kovecses | parph: yeah .... but who cares it is still fun |
| 21:54.23 | protium | True Combat? I have never heard of that one. |
| 21:54.32 | Kovecses | let me grab you the link |
| 21:54.39 | parph | boycott the army and their little game! |
| 21:54.39 | protium | Kovecses: Thanks |
| 21:54.40 | Kovecses | graphics are sweet |
| 21:54.47 | Sho_ | parph: OTOH, at least with that game you're full aware of the psychological implications of that military masturbation :) |
| 21:54.52 | protium | parph: Who cares? |
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| 21:55.04 | Kovecses | http://www.truecombat.com/intro.php |
| 21:55.06 | peratu | protium , www.carrosses.com/tce |
| 21:55.06 | parph | i guess I have too strong morals for you guys ;) |
| 21:55.07 | protium | parph: It's fun |
| 21:55.11 | benJIman | Kovecses: is it AA style gaming for ET? |
| 21:55.30 | Kovecses | pretty much... but there are several types of games you can play |
| 21:55.40 | Kovecses | some are just like AA |
| 21:55.47 | parph | on the other hand if anyone actually gets seduced into fighting real wars because of a video game they deserve whats coming to them |
| 21:55.49 | Kovecses | others have respawning and stuff |
| 21:56.31 | Kovecses | look at the screenies... i |
| 21:56.45 | benJIman | don't mind respawning really |
| 21:56.59 | benJIman | it's the stealth and strategic element of AA I like |
| 21:57.06 | benJIman | you can't go running arround bunnyhopping |
| 21:57.11 | Kovecses | right |
| 21:57.25 | Kovecses | i like to play them both... depending on what mood im in |
| 21:57.46 | protium | Kovecses: True Combat looks pretty good |
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| 21:57.59 | Kovecses | if your running gentoo .... True Combat is in portage |
| 21:58.03 | protium | Kovecses: Might have to bring that one to the annual LAN party |
| 21:58.11 | Kovecses | yeah it rules |
| 21:58.14 | protium | Kovecses: Linux gaming too ;-) |
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| 21:59.00 | Kovecses | i havent used windows in years |
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| 21:59.24 | protium | Kovecses: I use it all the time for a few things that don't work as well in Linux |
| 21:59.33 | protium | Kovecses: Like PPC syncing |
| 21:59.43 | Kovecses | understandable |
| 21:59.49 | benJIman | not 20 |
| 22:00.12 | Kovecses | for what benJIman |
| 22:00.23 | Sho_ | protium: PPC syncing? |
| 22:00.31 | benJIman | some of the mirrors have lots of clicks before you actually get to the file |
| 22:00.38 | Kovecses | what file |
| 22:00.43 | Kovecses | true combat? |
| 22:00.54 | benJIman | looking for the patch now |
| 22:01.01 | benJIman | some mirrors timing out |
| 22:01.03 | Kovecses | you already have ET |
| 22:01.08 | benJIman | yep |
| 22:01.11 | Kovecses | seet |
| 22:01.13 | Kovecses | sweet |
| 22:01.20 | Kovecses | i could send it if you want |
| 22:01.29 | benJIman | nah don't worry |
| 22:02.02 | protium | Sho_: I have a Pocket PC, and that really fits best with Outlook |
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| 22:02.17 | Sho_ | protium: Ah, Pocket PC ... when I hear PPC I think PowerPC |
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| 22:02.29 | protium | Sho_: Yeah, sorry about that |
| 22:02.41 | Sho_ | having a Mac and all :) |
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| 22:03.42 | protium | Sho_: I'd love one |
| 22:04.12 | Sho_ | protium: An iBook with OS X and Linux side by side |
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| 22:04.51 | protium | Sho_: Closest I can get to it is PearPC :P |
| 22:04.55 | jhutchins | Kopete keeps dropping my aim connection. |
| 22:05.02 | Sho_ | protium: I tried that once, too :) |
| 22:05.34 | protium | Sho_: OS X is cool beans |
| 22:08.49 | protium | Does this channel stay fairly busy? |
| 22:09.13 | Sho_ | it's rather quiet from 2-8 AM CET |
| 22:09.30 | Sho_ | but other than that it's pretty busy |
| 22:09.40 | protium | What is CET's GMT offset? |
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| 22:10.04 | Sho_ | +1 |
| 22:10.19 | protium | Ok, fair enough |
| 22:10.26 | protium | So another three hours then |
| 22:10.32 | protium | I'm at -7 |
| 22:10.36 | Sho_ | note that we observe daylight savings time, so in summer it's CEST and +2 |
| 22:10.52 | protium | Same here |
| 22:11.01 | protium | I am in Canuckistan |
| 22:11.17 | protium | AKA Canada |
| 22:11.22 | Sho_ | :) |
| 22:11.23 | Sho_ | Germany |
| 22:11.37 | protium | Good deal |
| 22:11.52 | protium | I know a few from there, but I have never visisted myself |
| 22:12.15 | Sho_ | Nor have I ever been to Canada, sadly |
| 22:12.32 | protium | It's pretty good if you like the outdoors |
| 22:12.42 | protium | Canada is *huge* |
| 22:12.55 | Sho_ | true dat :) |
| 22:13.08 | Sho_ | KDE seems to have a fairly sizable Canadian developer base |
| 22:13.45 | Sho_ | Usually, you can catch a discussion on the Canadian political scene at least several times per week in the development channel ;-) |
| 22:14.01 | protium | lol, that might be because it's a mess lately |
| 22:14.12 | protium | Although, barely more stable than yours was recently |
| 22:14.25 | Sho_ | Yeah, so I gather. It hasn't gotten much exposure in local news media otherwise. |
| 22:14.59 | protium | Canada is a little off the map. It must be for you like hearing the latest antics in Kenya |
| 22:15.01 | protium | Who cares? |
| 22:15.15 | protium | Other than that it is part of the G8 |
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| 22:15.55 | Sho_ | Well, being somewhat attracted to news on space exploration efforts, I'm aware of quite a few cooperations between ESA and Canada :-) |
| 22:16.25 | protium | Ah, alright, fair enough |
| 22:16.54 | Sho_ | And it seems a lot of the 'American' TV I consume is being shot in Canada ;) |
| 22:17.53 | protium | They do a bit up here in Vancouver due to cheaper shooting costs |
| 22:18.14 | protium | Over there I heard a lot of stuff gets filmed in the Czech Republic |
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| 22:18.15 | protium | Cheaper |
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| 22:19.18 | Sho_ | and Canada (specifically the 'Space' channel, IIRC) and Germany have worked together on a couple of sci-fi TV productions in the past ... 'Space Island One', 'Lexx' ... |
| 22:19.24 | rehn | Hi. How do I find files having a question mark in their file names using konqueror/kfind? |
| 22:19.48 | protium | Can you have filenames legally with a question mark? |
| 22:19.56 | protium | I thought that was a reserved character |
| 22:20.00 | Sho_ | yes |
| 22:20.03 | rehn | It seems that I do. |
| 22:20.08 | protium | Due to it's use in regular expressions |
| 22:20.30 | thiago | protium: sur eyou can |
| 22:20.33 | rehn | cat > "?" works |
| 22:20.44 | thiago | protium: there are only two characters you can't use in a file name: / and NUL |
| 22:20.48 | protium | thiago: You learn something new every day, I guess |
| 22:20.50 | protium | Thanks |
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| 22:21.14 | rehn | So can kfind find them for me? |
| 22:21.29 | rehn | Of course I could just use find. |
| 22:22.08 | SAngeli | Is there a GUI application that would display all /var/log content files? |
| 22:22.30 | benJIman | there's a logviewer app on kde-apps.org somewhere |
| 22:23.28 | Sho_ | several logviewers, actually |
| 22:26.15 | SAngeli | I am having troubles connecting to kde-apps.org Do you have the same problem too? |
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| 22:26.27 | Sho_ | SAngeli: Yes, it's sadly down |
| 22:26.35 | SAngeli | I see |
| 22:26.48 | Sho_ | Hopefully it won't be for long :) |
| 22:27.53 | SAngeli | I see. |
| 22:29.09 | SAngeli | I actually have ksystemlog installed but I have permission problems. does anyone have this application installed and knows how to set it properly for user, considering that /var/log is accessible by root only? |
| 22:29.43 | benJIman | SAngeli: if you want your user to be able read the logs perhaps chown the logfiles to root:logread or something, then add yourself to that group |
| 22:29.53 | benJIman | or you could use sudo |
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| 22:30.14 | SAngeli | I see. Group seems a good solution. |
| 22:30.15 | SAngeli | Thanks |
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| 22:30.32 | benJIman | most likely your distro will override changes for system files like that with settings from somewhere, you need to check how to change it permanently for your distro |
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| 22:35.48 | pasquale | ciao a tutti |
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| 22:38.44 | SAngeli | ciao pasquale |
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| 22:45.38 | SpeS | hi |
| 22:45.40 | SpeS | is there a way to make a widget in Qtdesigner always on top/bottom? (i.e. a Qlabel with a pixmap...) |
| 22:45.41 | SpeS | I want to make a jpg as the background of the wondow app, with all the other buttons, etc, on top of it |
| 22:45.44 | SpeS | is that possible in Qtdesigner? |
| 22:46.03 | willwork4foo | greetings y'all |
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| 22:47.45 | positivo | hi |
| 22:48.18 | corn | hello everybody |
| 22:48.43 | protium | howdy |
| 22:50.22 | corn | hablas espanhol? |
| 22:50.37 | corn | soy brasileiro |
| 22:50.57 | DirkGently | SpeS: ask in #kde-devel.. developers hang out in there |
| 22:51.30 | corn | i dont speak english, yes spanish! |
| 22:51.57 | DaSkreech | corn: Ask and hopefully we can keep up |
| 22:52.13 | DaSkreech | Or ask in #kde-es |
| 22:52.29 | DaSkreech | Which would be a lot smarter :) |
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| 22:56.27 | SpeS | DirkGently ok thanks, I didn't know O:) |
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| 22:58.39 | corn | you are homosexual |
| 22:58.50 | DirkGently | anyone able to open http://www.kde.me.uk? |
| 22:58.53 | DirkGently | anyone able to open http://www.kde.me.uk ? |
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| 22:59.31 | willwork4foo | DirkGently: nope. I can't. |
| 22:59.50 | corn | fuck off |
| 22:59.50 | DirkGently | willwork4foo: thanks |
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| 23:00.47 | corn | bis homosexual |
| 23:00.55 | corn | bicharada americana |
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| 23:01.06 | willwork4foo | corn: exactly what are you here for? |
| 23:01.13 | willwork4foo | besides being rude? |
| 23:01.27 | willwork4foo | oh dear. what a loss. |
| 23:01.34 | protium | Yeah... |
| 23:02.53 | Tamara` | Tamara` Hi all, On, KDE-3.4, sound keeps crashing on me, even though, I'm currently not playing any sound, but when browsing, it keps crashing and sometimes, even closing some applications. Have a look down........This is my error - This content is stored as http://sial.org/pbot/14880 |
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| 23:06.24 | gregday | can I change the icon of just the Trash can? |
| 23:06.53 | darkside | anyone know of a good site designer ....for java |
| 23:07.40 | DaSkreech | Does anyone know about knowledge? |
| 23:07.43 | DirkGently | gregday: icon size you mean? |
| 23:08.06 | gregday | no, the image |
| 23:08.24 | DirkGently | right-click properties then click on the icon |
| 23:08.39 | gregday | for both the empty and full states? |
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| 23:12.34 | darkside | anyone around |
| 23:13.09 | willwork4foo | I'm fairly round |
| 23:13.12 | willwork4foo | what's up darkside |
| 23:13.26 | DaSkreech | nope shhhh We are playing hide and seek with #gnome |
| 23:13.29 | darkside | just trying to find out some info on website design programs |
| 23:13.36 | DirkGently | gregday: ahh.. try editing ~/Desktop/trash.desktop |
| 23:13.38 | darkside | want to start a website |
| 23:14.21 | DirkGently | you can change Icon and EmptyIcon there |
| 23:14.46 | willwork4foo | have a look at e107 |
| 23:14.51 | willwork4foo | and also have a look at xoops |
| 23:14.53 | gregday | DirkGently: will that be respected anywhere the trash can is shown, like on the kicker applet? |
| 23:14.58 | willwork4foo | (that was for darkside) |
| 23:15.17 | willwork4foo | my website's managed with e107 - www.bdmsystems.com |
| 23:15.42 | darkside | cool thanks |
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| 23:17.04 | darkside | nice website .... |
| 23:17.10 | willwork4foo | darkside: no probs. Please feel free to use the donate button on my website to give me lots of cash for the wonderful assistance. |
| 23:17.20 | willwork4foo | :) |
| 23:17.30 | DirkGently | gregday: I don't think so.. that looks like it's hardcoded |
| 23:17.48 | DirkGently | you'd need to change the actual pixmaps |
| 23:18.38 | darkside | lol yea when i make the next digg.com website i will |
| 23:19.08 | willwork4foo | digg.com website? |
| 23:20.59 | DaSkreech | http://digg.com |
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| 23:31.30 | benJIman | anyone know if ksvg in 3.5 is ksvg 1 or 2? |
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| 23:34.01 | straw | benJIman: 1 |
| 23:34.14 | benJIman | straw: thanks |
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| 23:35.28 | straw | benJIman: there's a partial integration of antigrain as a konq plugin in 3.5, but it's unfinished |
| 23:37.01 | straw | benJIman: i think that effort is now in trunk along with other cool svg stuff :) |
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| 23:37.47 | benJIman | thankyou |
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| 23:43.00 | Kovecses | when I clear konquerors history and cache and clear the location bar... websites still popup in the location bar? |
| 23:43.05 | Kovecses | how do i clear this? |
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| 23:44.01 | DirkGently | Kovecses: have you right-clicked the location bar and selected Clear History? |
| 23:44.06 | Kovecses | yup |
| 23:44.08 | benJIman | yeah it doesn't do it first time |
| 23:44.26 | oGALAXYo | what kde version ? |
| 23:44.31 | benJIman | or only does some of it I think |
| 23:44.47 | benJIman | keep doing it and it clears eventually |
| 23:44.52 | Kovecses | ok thanks |
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| 23:59.32 | PeanutHorst | hi all..... does anyone know if i can find a theme for KDE based on the Mac OS X "Aqua" interface? I know one exists, i've seen screen captures of one. But where do i find it? |
