| 00:00.10 | fernando | Wow, no one can do!!! |
| 00:00.53 | carl_1 | ... |
| 00:00.54 | carl_1 | chill |
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| 00:00.58 | carl_1 | and rtfm |
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| 00:04.25 | fernando | What do I have to do to get Kmid to play a MID file on SuSE? |
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| 00:05.06 | annma | fernando: kmid <filename> |
| 00:05.15 | annma | what does that say? |
| 00:05.43 | elderwolf | Do I need a different acpi to have my Dell Laptop shutoff display when lid is closed in kde? |
| 00:06.06 | fernando | annma. Lirycs is working, but no sound!! |
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| 00:07.31 | annma | fernando: do you have sound elsewhere? |
| 00:07.44 | fernando | annma. Everything is working fine. Kaffeine, Mplayer, etc |
| 00:08.08 | annma | fernando: run from konsole |
| 00:08.15 | annma | what does it say? |
| 00:08.37 | fernando | wait a moment, annma!!! |
| 00:09.49 | fernando | kmid open fast, but is not playing any kar files!!!! |
| 00:09.57 | fredrikh | fernando: dude, you need to switch to decaf =) |
| 00:10.16 | fernando | decaf? |
| 00:10.19 | carl_1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:10.23 | fredrikh | nm |
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| 00:10.32 | carl_1 | decaffinatted coffee |
| 00:10.33 | fredrikh | midi is different from pcm |
| 00:10.39 | annma | kar files? what are those? |
| 00:11.01 | DirkGently | it doesn't play .mid files |
| 00:11.01 | fernando | karaoke(kar) files, annma!!! |
| 00:11.08 | DirkGently | i.e. no sound |
| 00:11.18 | annma | yes!!!! fernando !!!!!! of course!!!!!!!!!! |
| 00:11.35 | fernando | no mid files working at Kmid |
| 00:12.07 | annma | kar files have no sound per definition surely as you make the sound |
| 00:12.19 | annma | ;-) |
| 00:12.37 | fernando | At Xp, I have used Vanbasco Karaokê. It works fine. There is no Linux version!!! |
| 00:13.00 | annma | just sing! |
| 00:13.34 | annma | 1 2 3 1 2 3 1 2 3 |
| 00:13.44 | annma | go! |
| 00:13.47 | carl_1 | there is waaaaaaaaay to much energy in this channel |
| 00:14.00 | fernando | Just singing in the rain, Just singing in the rain, but without Kmid. |
| 00:14.18 | annma | ah those gentoo geeks |
| 00:14.22 | DirkGently | Test Midi doesn't work in Control Centre either |
| 00:14.24 | carl_1 | lol |
| 00:14.27 | fredrikh | fernando: are you sure your midi driver is configured correctly? |
| 00:15.03 | fredrikh | fernando: midi is handled by another chip on your sound card, so regular audio files could still work fine |
| 00:15.26 | fredrikh | even though midi isn't i mean |
| 00:16.10 | carl_1 | 11 apackages left |
| 00:16.26 | fernando | The problem is SuSE. |
| 00:16.35 | maelcum | hi! I need a / several volunteer(s) to crash their konqueror with many debugging symbols so I can file a good bug report. If you want to help: open a new konqeror instance. open http://www.kde.org. Enter "/etc" in the url bar. change back and forth really fast using alt-left and alt-right. send me the backtrace via dcc or post it to pastebin. this crash might not happen on your particular system... |
| 00:17.12 | annma | maelcum: where does your kde come from? what KDE version? |
| 00:17.32 | fernando | kde 3.5, annma |
| 00:17.32 | drivamgr2006 | i volunteer on this one maelcum - i will test this |
| 00:17.42 | maelcum | 3.5 ubuntu |
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| 00:17.51 | carl_1 | 9 |
| 00:17.51 | carl_1 | more |
| 00:17.52 | carl_1 | packages |
| 00:18.36 | fredrikh | maelcum: can't reproduce |
| 00:18.54 | annma | nothing happens |
| 00:19.02 | maelcum | damn |
| 00:19.17 | annma | maelcum: can switch nicely, KDE from svn source |
| 00:19.22 | fredrikh | of course i'm using the 3.5 svn branch |
| 00:19.27 | maelcum | thank you all |
| 00:19.28 | annma | did you look at ubuntu datatbase? |
| 00:19.36 | annma | what about any 2 URLs? |
| 00:19.48 | drivamgr2006 | unable to reproduce here either maelcum |
| 00:20.03 | fernando | Fuck SuSE. I searched 2 hours at forums for help, but I cannot use Linux, if I want to sing my karaokê KAR files |
| 00:20.13 | annma | maelcum: surely this is not related to those URLS |
| 00:20.19 | annma | fernando: be nice, no swearing |
| 00:20.47 | annma | fernando: did you google for your sound card + midi? |
| 00:21.05 | maelcum | I need a file view and a html view to make it crash. I just wanted to keep the language simple ;) |
| 00:21.30 | carl_1 | maybe its better you dont sing fernando ;) |
| 00:21.45 | fernando | bye, annma. I will boot on XP, to use AutoCAD and karaokê |
| 00:21.47 | annma | so you mean switching between file manager and browser |
| 00:22.02 | annma | maelcum: and you cannot get a backtrace? |
| 00:22.06 | fernando | No, car-1. I am a good singer!!! |
| 00:22.17 | annma | go sing in peace, fer |
| 00:22.21 | annma | nando |
| 00:22.25 | yoruichi | ... |
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| 00:22.37 | fernando | Cheers, friends!!! |
| 00:22.55 | carl_1 | cya fernando |
| 00:23.06 | maelcum | annma: right. and yes I can but there could be more info in it. |
| 00:23.25 | annma | maelcum: seems a system problem or a distro one |
| 00:23.30 | annma | maelcum: did you try a new user? |
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| 00:27.10 | carl_1 | startx |
| 00:27.13 | carl_1 | hope it works! |
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| 00:27.46 | annma | oh my, I fear the worst |
| 00:27.51 | maelcum | annma: somebody on #kde-devel could reproduce yesterday however. anyway, maybe it's time for me to dust off the debugger myself. |
| 00:28.09 | annma | what about a new user, maelcum ? |
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| 00:28.23 | annma | who on #kde-devel? |
| 00:28.37 | annma | running what KDE distro? |
| 00:29.26 | maelcum | I forgot ;(( |
| 00:29.37 | annma | hmmm |
| 00:30.24 | SimAtWork | goodnight everyone |
| 00:30.42 | annma | night SimAtWork |
| 00:30.50 | annma | you sleep in your office? |
| 00:31.00 | SimAtWork | oh no |
| 00:31.03 | annma | ;) |
| 00:31.04 | SimAtWork | i'm about to ride my bike home |
| 00:31.08 | annma | cool |
| 00:31.09 | SimAtWork | hop in the car and go see my gf |
| 00:31.15 | annma | :))) |
| 00:31.24 | SimAtWork | it's 60km to the gf from here |
| 00:31.29 | annma | wow |
| 00:31.31 | SimAtWork | so if i biked it it'd be dark |
| 00:31.35 | SimAtWork | well before i got there |
| 00:31.37 | SimAtWork | too dark |
| 00:31.43 | annma | and you;ll be exhausted |
| 00:31.48 | SimAtWork | mm |
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| 00:31.52 | SimAtWork | no, not last time anyhow |
| 00:31.56 | annma | wow |
| 00:32.05 | annma | a sporty geek! |
| 00:32.08 | SevenCPA | Hi! |
| 00:32.09 | SimAtWork | i know |
| 00:32.12 | SimAtWork | who woulda thunk! |
| 00:32.17 | annma | ;-) |
| 00:32.18 | SimAtWork | and it's time to go! |
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| 00:32.19 | SimAtWork | bye! |
| 00:32.21 | annma | bye |
| 00:38.03 | SevenCPA | Upgrading to 3.5, via YaST... boring! |
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| 00:40.05 | androide | hello |
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| 00:40.21 | androide | i have a problem with starting kde |
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| 00:40.30 | androide | about the kicker i think |
| 00:40.52 | annma | how did you install kde? |
| 00:41.33 | annma | androide: ^^ |
| 00:42.17 | androide | by package |
| 00:42.28 | androide | pacman -S kde ? |
| 00:42.44 | annma | distro? |
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| 00:43.16 | androide | archlinux |
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| 00:43.31 | annma | is it a self compiled distro? |
| 00:43.44 | androide | what you mean |
| 00:43.48 | androide | sorry i didn't get it |
| 00:44.05 | fredrikh | annma: that's bero's distro, isn't it? |
| 00:44.15 | annma | no idea, fredrikh |
| 00:44.18 | HuntsMan | ArchLinux it's a binary package distro |
| 00:44.25 | annma | HuntsMan: thanks |
| 00:44.32 | Tm_T | :) |
| 00:44.33 | annma | androide: does X work? |
| 00:44.37 | Tm_T | annma: o/ |
| 00:44.45 | HuntsMan | androide: i |
| 00:44.46 | fredrikh | annma: the guy that used to do the kde packages for redhat... archlinux is redhat with kde instead of gnome i think |
| 00:44.55 | annma | oh |
| 00:44.55 | HuntsMan | androide: i've seen you on irc.cl right? |
| 00:46.12 | androide | HuntsMan, yes |
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| 00:46.14 | androide | u did |
| 00:46.19 | annma | androide: so does X work? |
| 00:46.24 | dbglt | didn't rh used to be kde? ;p |
| 00:46.25 | androide | annma, yeah, X works perfectly |
| 00:46.26 | dbglt | been a while |
| 00:46.30 | annma | can you start anothe desktop? |
| 00:46.34 | androide | yes |
| 00:46.41 | androide | fluxbox, gnome, XFC4 |
| 00:46.42 | androide | etc |
| 00:46.45 | androide | without that problem |
| 00:46.47 | annma | do you have kdm? |
| 00:46.53 | androide | no, i don't |
| 00:47.00 | androide | i start kde via command line |
| 00:47.01 | annma | how do you satrt kde/ |
| 00:47.05 | annma | how? |
| 00:47.09 | androide | startx |
| 00:47.16 | androide | editing my ~/.xinitrc |
| 00:47.23 | androide | "exec startkde" |
| 00:47.25 | HuntsMan | androide: try using kdm |
| 00:47.30 | fredrikh | androide: your problem is basically that kicker doesn't start? |
| 00:47.30 | annma | startkde is enough |
| 00:48.07 | androide | fredrikh, i don't really know, but take too much time starting the desktop enviroment |
| 00:48.14 | androide | i look with top what is happend... |
| 00:48.29 | androide | and... the kicker program is gettin' all the cpu |
| 00:48.46 | androide | go to tty, kill kicker, start it again and everything works fine after is |
| 00:48.48 | androide | it* |
| 00:48.56 | fredrikh | and kicker is running then? |
| 00:49.04 | androide | yes, it is |
| 00:49.10 | androide | HuntsMan, i wil |
| 00:49.13 | androide | will* |
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| 00:50.17 | annma | androide: is it a new install for your user or an upgrade? |
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| 00:51.09 | androide | i have it installed for a very long time |
| 00:51.24 | annma | the same kde? |
| 00:51.28 | androide | but yesturday was the first time that i start it |
| 00:51.30 | androide | yes |
| 00:51.33 | annma | ah |
| 00:51.35 | androide | i going to a point |
| 00:51.54 | androide | i du pacman -Suy [to upgrade the existing programs] every week |
| 00:51.56 | androide | do* |
| 00:52.14 | annma | pacman |
| 00:52.17 | annma | ! |
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| 00:52.33 | annma | ;) |
| 00:52.41 | annma | androide: did you try a new user? |
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| 00:52.53 | androide | no, i don't |
| 00:53.11 | androide | well |
| 00:53.17 | androide | thanks to all fer the tips |
| 00:53.22 | androide | for* |
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| 00:53.32 | dbglt | does anyone use the transparency settings of kicker? |
| 00:53.44 | dbglt | it doesn't seem to update very well |
| 00:53.55 | Tm_T | I do use |
| 00:53.57 | dbglt | (using kde 3.5) |
| 00:54.09 | dbglt | it has artifacts and such here, and when I switch virtual desktops, doesn't update it and such |
| 00:54.10 | Tm_T | and yes, it's ugly hack |
| 00:54.12 | dbglt | ah |
| 00:54.43 | Tm_T | you prolly have better life without |
| 00:54.44 | Tm_T | it |
| 00:54.49 | dbglt | ah :( |
| 00:54.53 | Tm_T | ;) |
| 00:54.55 | fredrikh | dbglt: yeah it sucks, but the good news is that in KDE4 we'll support real dynamic transparency in the panel |
| 00:54.56 | dbglt | but when it does work... it does look nice |
| 00:55.00 | dbglt | :) |
| 00:55.15 | dbglt | fredrikh: is that to do with the xorg composite thing? |
| 00:55.18 | Tm_T | fredrikh: yeah, because then it's not ugly hack ;) |
| 00:55.23 | carl_1 | Mmm |
| 00:55.25 | carl_1 | graphical. |
| 00:55.37 | fredrikh | dbglt: precisely |
| 00:55.47 | TeaSea | I read up on Plasma today. |
| 00:55.49 | TeaSea | It sounds awesome. |
| 00:55.53 | dbglt | shame my ati drivers don't support that! Hehe |
| 00:56.42 | fredrikh | dbglt: it does in X11R7 if you enable EXA support (provided that you have an r100 or r200 based card) |
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| 00:56.58 | dbglt | I don't know if I do |
| 00:57.01 | dbglt | I have an ati 9800 |
| 00:57.06 | dbglt | with the proprietary driver |
| 00:57.11 | HuntsMan | that's a RV300 |
| 00:57.50 | fredrikh | it will probably work with r300 cards by the time KDE4 is released |
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| 01:00.20 | dbglt | hopefully |
| 01:00.27 | dbglt | ETA on kde 4? this year? :) |
| 01:00.53 | HuntsMan | hopefully :) |
| 01:00.54 | Tm_T | maybe, I hope not too soon |
| 01:01.21 | Tm_T | because then I can't get my spoon to soup ;) |
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| 01:05.05 | dbglt | hrrm |
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| 01:05.22 | dbglt | oops |
| 01:05.40 | dbglt | ok. I asked this before, but no one knew, so I'll ask again. Is there any reason why juk isn't saving my shortcuts? |
| 01:06.09 | dbglt | I make a change to the shortcuts in juk... they work fine until I quit juk and reopen it |
| 01:06.17 | dbglt | then it is reset |
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| 01:09.36 | Plareplane | do you get lots of questions about how to tile windows in kde? |
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| 01:10.05 | Sho_ | Plareplane: Occassionally, yes |
| 01:11.08 | Plareplane | well, how do i tile windows in kde? |
| 01:11.23 | Tm_T | haha |
| 01:12.00 | Plareplane | i mean, i see a cascade windows, but my beloved tile windows is noticeably absent |
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| 01:41.36 | adnen | Hi, plz is there a way to save my kde windows & other desktop settings tu use them with another username ? |
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| 01:42.40 | adnen | 225 users, 0 ops............... |
| 01:42.50 | fredrikh | adnen: yeah, all the settings are stored in ~/.kde and ~/.qt |
| 01:43.02 | fredrikh | i.e. the customized settings |
| 01:43.44 | fredrikh | the settings that are global to all users are stored in /usr/share/config or /opt/kde*/share/config depending on your distribution |
| 01:43.46 | adnen | yes, and i guess i should move these directories to the new user's directory ? |
| 01:44.03 | fredrikh | that's one way |
| 01:44.43 | adnen | what's the other ? |
| 01:45.36 | adnen | does it solve the problem correctly ? i mean moving the folders |
| 01:45.52 | fredrikh | you could put those in the template so they're automatically created that way for all users, or try to integrate the settings in the global settings, so they're automatically used by all users |
| 01:46.09 | fredrikh | i.e. created that way for all _new_ users |
| 01:46.24 | fredrikh | by moving it, copying it should work |
| 01:46.46 | fredrikh | but there are some symlinks in ~/.kde/ you'll want to remove after copying/moving it |
| 01:46.56 | fredrikh | and chowning it is necessary as well of course |
| 01:47.31 | fredrikh | mail is by default stored in ~/Mail and the desktop icons are stored in ~/Desktop |
| 01:47.36 | fredrikh | if you want to move that too |
| 01:48.23 | adnen | very good, i will try all this out although it doesn't seem easy |
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| 02:04.45 | mhall | what's the KDE 'su' tool |
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| 02:05.44 | fredrikh | kdesu? |
| 02:06.15 | mhall | E: Couldn't find package kdesu |
| 02:06.29 | TheSimkin | i'm home! |
| 02:06.36 | TheSimkin | where the heck is annma |
| 02:06.44 | mhall | ah i found it |
| 02:06.50 | mhall | it was in a different spot |
| 02:07.35 | mhall | fredrikh: thanks! |
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| 02:22.55 | AssociateX | Hello people |
| 02:22.57 | AssociateX | <--- drinking vodka |
| 02:23.35 | AssociateX | Hey, I tried to setup that fileserver on the toolbar but I can't find it. Is it no longer part of KDE? |
| 02:24.00 | AssociateX | kde 3.5.0 |
| 02:24.16 | AssociateX | that thing was cool as hell |
| 02:24.22 | AssociateX | Heck* |
| 02:24.25 | AssociateX | sorry |
| 02:25.09 | jkeel | AssociateX: public file server panel applet is what you want |
| 02:25.19 | smithjd | heya |
| 02:25.28 | smithjd | anyone know when 3.5.1 is to be released? |
| 02:25.33 | jkeel | = right-click on panel, choose 'Add Applet to Panel' and choose 'public file server' |
| 02:25.38 | jkeel | AssociateX: ^ |
| 02:25.40 | smithjd | by my calculations we're already late =) |
| 02:27.21 | straw | January 20th, 2006: Tagging KDE 3.5.1 - note it says tagging, not release |
| 02:30.54 | AssociateX | jkeel, I did that but didn't see it, do I need to install something(kdebased) |
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| 02:32.00 | _geddy123 | hello all! |
| 02:32.34 | AssociateX | <--on gentoo, so kde might be split up. |
| 02:33.16 | _geddy123 | ? |
| 02:33.59 | _geddy123 | why is all the linux channels i go to so quite |
| 02:34.13 | AssociateX | because it's Friday? |
| 02:34.16 | _geddy123 | any one think they can help me? my amarok isnt oping |
| 02:34.27 | AssociateX | dang, not I |
| 02:34.28 | _geddy123 | associate your probly right |
| 02:35.24 | _geddy123 | what other linux channel, or linux help channel do you kno? |
| 02:36.17 | jkeel | AssociateX: sorry, I was working on something else and didn't see your message. I'm not sure what pkg that applet is in, but in my full KDE install, it's there |
| 02:36.32 | jkeel | AssociateX: I'm on Gentoo as well |
| 02:36.37 | jkeel | I emerge'd kde |
| 02:36.43 | _geddy123 | im on suse |
| 02:36.45 | jkeel | not kdelibs + kdebase |
| 02:36.50 | _geddy123 | whats gentoo like? |
| 02:37.06 | jkeel | it's compiled from source code, and in some cases faster |
| 02:37.15 | jkeel | I like it because it allows me to easily do development work |
| 02:37.23 | _geddy123 | oh |
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| 02:37.44 | _geddy123 | well i'm new to linux, and suse is a pretty easy to use distro |
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| 02:38.25 | _geddy123 | my stupid amarok isnt working tho TT.TT i want to listen to my music T.T |
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| 02:39.05 | _geddy123 | what do you guys develope? |
| 02:39.20 | jkeel | SuSE's a good distro |
| 02:39.29 | jkeel | they're all good, really. It's just personal preference |
| 02:39.51 | jkeel | _geddy123: I work on KDE-related stuff |
| 02:40.00 | _geddy123 | kewlio |
| 02:40.06 | jkeel | _geddy123: what specifically is giving you problems with amaroK? |
| 02:40.13 | Tm_T | amaroK <3 |
| 02:40.19 | _geddy123 | i was going to use kubuntu but it wouldn't work |
| 02:41.06 | Tm_T | _geddy123: because of |
| 02:41.13 | _geddy123 | well when i go to start amarok, hour glass thing for a while (task bar at bottom but no actual program) then the task bar of it closes and it doesnt work |
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| 02:41.36 | Tm_T | _geddy123: it's 1.3.7 or newer, right? if not, upgrade |
| 02:41.41 | jkeel | _geddy123: open Konsole and run 'amarok' from the terminal and see what output you get |
| 02:41.59 | Tm_T | jkeel: I bet he got just old buggy version of amarok ;( |
| 02:42.11 | jkeel | hehe. maybe so |
| 02:42.37 | patrix | hey all |
| 02:42.38 | AssociateX | jkeel, yeah, it's probably part of the full install, I did an emerge kdebase though. I'll have to look around, thank you for your help |
| 02:43.00 | patrix | I just ionstallde kde3.5.0 including kopete... file transfers don't work. I get a 0bytes file once it's done. has anybody else experienced this? |
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| 02:43.18 | patrix | file transfers through MSN I should add |
| 02:43.29 | _geddy123 | there is no ''better'' shell is there? like between kde gnome fluxbox ect. just personal preferance? |
| 02:43.39 | Tm_T | patrix: known issue, blame MSN |
| 02:43.45 | patrix | lol |
| 02:43.46 | jkeel | AssociateX: it looks like to me if you install kicker (kdebase) you should also install its panel applets |
| 02:43.50 | _geddy123 | oh and jkeel i entered amarok into console and nothing happened |
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| 02:44.08 | patrix | Tm_T: how is it MSN's fault (note that i'm totally ready to believe it, I'd just like to know what's going on ;) ) |
| 02:44.08 | Tm_T | patrix: aye, they keep changing their "protocol" all the time |
| 02:44.12 | patrix | oh ok |
| 02:44.12 | jkeel | _geddy123: nothing happened? as in no error msg, nothing? |
| 02:44.22 | patrix | lol |
| 02:44.24 | Tm_T | patrix: so, use email |
| 02:44.33 | patrix | oh I would |
| 02:44.36 | patrix | it's my friends who refuse |
| 02:44.38 | _geddy123 | nope nothing |
| 02:44.38 | patrix | damned MSN freaks lol |
| 02:44.39 | _geddy123 | well |
| 02:44.39 | Tm_T | patrix: or even better, migrate to jabber |
| 02:44.44 | _geddy123 | its still loading i think |
| 02:45.01 | patrix | Tm_T: I would love to, but nobody else is on, which would force me to use the MSN transports and then.. all the same problems ;) |
| 02:45.07 | patrix | I used to use jabber |
| 02:45.19 | patrix | ah well |
| 02:45.23 | Tm_T | patrix: nope, if they can force you to use msn, you can force them to use jabber |
| 02:45.27 | patrix | lol |
| 02:47.26 | patrix | heh |
| 02:47.32 | patrix | well gaim managed to ge the file properly ;) |
| 02:48.31 | Tm_T | patrix: yes, they have better backporters |
| 02:48.47 | Tm_T | I mean reverse-engineers |
| 02:48.49 | patrix | lol |
| 02:48.53 | Tm_T | oh whatever |
| 02:48.57 | patrix | yeah |
| 02:48.58 | patrix | no worries |
| 02:49.02 | patrix | thanks for answering though :) |
| 02:49.13 | Tm_T | whole msn plugin needs rewriting in kopete |
| 02:49.57 | Tm_T | patrix: if you have any interest and slight idea about C++ join in to help us rewrite it ;) |
| 02:50.13 | patrix | mm I knew that was coming |
| 02:50.39 | Tm_T | haha |
| 02:51.40 | patrix | unfortunately I'm not quite there |
| 02:51.58 | Tm_T | hehe |
| 02:52.09 | patrix | or rather I would be if I made the effort |
| 02:52.13 | Tm_T | me neither, yet, but I try to help as much as possible |
| 02:52.18 | patrix | that's good |
| 02:52.36 | patrix | I try to help by coming on here when I have trouble. which is rare ;) |
| 02:53.51 | patrix | I remember the first fiew versions of KDE (like before 0.10) , when opening the trash would crash it.... |
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| 02:54.49 | patrix | well that's all for me, I can go sleep now. later all, and thanks for the quick response Tm_T :) |
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| 03:08.26 | Ze_M | are there any apps for xml edition? |
| 03:09.13 | Tm_T | like Kate ? |
| 03:09.33 | Ze_M | kate is a text editor |
| 03:09.50 | Tm_T | and xml is text |
| 03:10.05 | Ze_M | so is just that? |
| 03:10.32 | Tm_T | I use kate for c++, xhtml, css, xml, xlst, txt... and all that with syntax hilightning |
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| 03:15.16 | Ze_M | it must be there other way to create the xml for kdm |
| 03:19.04 | Sho_ | Ze_M: There was some kind of specialized XML editor on kde-apps IIRC |
| 03:19.36 | AssociateX | jkeel, I did an "emerge -pvt kicker" and it shows up blocked.... [blocks B ] =kde-base/kdebase-3.4* (is blocking kde-base/kicker-3.4.3) |
| 03:19.40 | Ze_M | Sho_: wich? |
| 03:19.49 | AssociateX | any idea? |
| 03:19.59 | Sho_ | Ze_M: use the search function ... I don't remember the name |
| 03:20.13 | Ze_M | Sho_: search function? |
| 03:20.19 | Sho_ | AssociateX: kicker is a package from the split ebuilds, kdebase belongs to the old monolithic ebuilds (and contains kicker) |
| 03:20.25 | Sho_ | Ze_M: on kde-apps.org |
| 03:20.31 | Ze_M | ok |
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| 03:23.07 | AssociateX | Sho_, thanks, ... so why can't I get the kde public file server panel app?? |
| 03:23.39 | Sho_ | AssociateX: That's in kdeaddons, if you're using the monolithic ebuilds |
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| 03:27.41 | AssociateX | kde-base/kdeaddons |
| 03:27.41 | AssociateX | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:27.41 | AssociateX | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:27.55 | AssociateX | sorry, about that |
| 03:34.14 | AssociateX | does any of that info help? |
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| 03:57.44 | _geddy123 | whats some sweet looking themes for kde? |
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| 04:04.41 | hagayarou | when I use KDM instead of the multiuser console as the default run level, it seems my .xinitrc isn't loaded. what should I do? |
| 04:05.56 | straw | use .Xclients instead |
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| 04:06.08 | Dnepr | does anybody have orkut here? |
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| 04:10.14 | hagayarou | oh |
| 04:11.08 | Tm_T | Dnepr: errh, no orgasms here (that whats "orkut" means in finnish) |
| 04:11.32 | Dnepr | i need to search a person |
| 04:11.42 | hagayarou | straw: would it work if I put it in /usr/X11/lib/X11/xinit/ ? |
| 04:13.19 | straw | hagayarou: it might. it's /etc/X11/xinit/ for me |
| 04:13.31 | hagayarou | oh |
| 04:16.13 | hagayarou | in my xinitrc, there's a section that looks for a global and user .Xmodmap, and uses it if found. should I copy that into .Xclients too? |
| 04:17.52 | straw | hagayarou: it's /etc/X11/Xmodmap over here. this is all somewhat distro-dependant |
| 04:18.48 | hagayarou | hmm, i have it as /etc/X11/xinit/.Xmodmap, and the xinitrc file looks for it there too |
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| 05:07.33 | geddy123 | hey guys |
| 05:07.36 | geddy123 | i need some help |
| 05:07.42 | geddy123 | at 1024x768 |
| 05:07.51 | geddy123 | is everything supose to be gigantic? |
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| 05:09.14 | Makimer | What's your DPI, geddy? |
| 05:09.31 | geddy123 | i dont know |
| 05:09.41 | geddy123 | i want to know where i change it |
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| 05:10.30 | geddy123 | where can i change my dpi? |
| 05:10.56 | chino[lap] | how come in some kde installations that one option says "enable icon ZOOMING" and in other installations it says "enable MOUSE OVER AFFECTS" |
| 05:11.37 | Makimer | Chino: I think the "enable icon zooming" was removed in favor for "enable mouse over effects" in KDE 3.4 |
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| 05:12.19 | Makimer | Geddy: Aye, that's something I lack in knowledge myself, mind pasting (http://rafb.net/paste) your X configuration file? |
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| 05:13.05 | geddy123 | how do i change my dip |
| 05:13.07 | geddy123 | dpi* |
| 05:13.24 | Makimer | Geddy: Aye, that's something I lack in knowledge myself, mind pasting (http://rafb.net/paste) your X configuration file? |
| 05:13.52 | geddy123 | where do i find my x config file? |
| 05:14.03 | geddy123 | sorry this is only my second day of linuxing |
| 05:14.27 | Makimer | Which distro, geddy? |
| 05:14.46 | geddy123 | suse |
| 05:14.52 | geddy123 | suse 10* |
| 05:14.54 | Makimer | Ah. |
| 05:15.16 | Makimer | Check /etc/X11/xorg.conf. |
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| 05:16.50 | Makimer | Use a pasting service such as http://rafb.net/paste and paste the contents of your xorg.conf file into it and post the link here. |
| 05:17.21 | geddy123 | http://rafb.net/paste/results/KPMsmq86.html |
| 05:18.08 | Makimer | Hmm.. |
| 05:18.16 | zenwryly | Is there an equivalent to OS X's open command or Cygwin's cygstart command for opening files with the right app from the command line? |
| 05:18.56 | chino[lap] | Makimer: i like icon zooming!!! |
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| 05:20.17 | Makimer | Chino: Same. I was disapointed when it was removed from KDE 3.4. |
| 05:20.52 | Makimer | I always turned it on when I was running a distro with KDE 3.3 |
| 05:21.14 | chino[lap] | dude |
| 05:21.16 | chino[lap] | thats so stupid |
| 05:21.21 | chino[lap] | why "remove" something |
| 05:21.28 | chino[lap] | "append" would of been better |
| 05:21.42 | chino[lap] | who do i have to yell at ? |
| 05:22.11 | Makimer | Chino: Yell at the devs for making such a stupid error in removing an awesome effect =P |
| 05:22.35 | hagayarou | cd #slapt-get |
| 05:22.39 | hagayarou | ...oops |
| 05:22.48 | chino[lap] | yea im pissed |
| 05:22.58 | chino[lap] | hagayarou: you need help with slappy ? |
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| 05:30.31 | Chrisid | are their any good kde tools for regex ermm... explorer, that you type in a regex and then it tells you what it finds |
| 05:30.36 | Chrisid | there* |
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| 05:35.40 | Chrisid | Huntsman: ill check that out |
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| 05:50.01 | Ze_M | anyone that knows xml? |
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| 06:06.29 | apometron | hello folks! how to update the kde 3.4.1 of my knoppix 4.0.2 dvd version? |
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| 06:08.57 | grepper | apometron: probably need an "apt-get dist-upgrade" and some knowledge of debian |
| 06:09.27 | grepper | you could try just upgrading kde I suppose, "apt-get install kdelibs arts kdebase" and see what happens |
| 06:09.46 | apometron | some ebook of high reference about debian you would indicate? |
| 06:09.49 | grepper | if you don't know debian very well, you could run into some gotchas |
| 06:09.59 | grepper | debian.org has some links I think |
| 06:10.31 | apometron | interesting! i love knoppix =) oh my god, 3 gigas of bits =ooo |
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| 06:16.23 | scorp | hello, i have a question regarding 'konsole' |
| 06:16.48 | scorp | can someone tell me plz, is there a command line switch to set the history to unlimited? |
| 06:16.54 | scorp | just like with the gui? |
| 06:17.23 | scorp | I have checked the --help and the online docs, but there doesnt seem to be such an option. |
| 06:17.51 | scorp | anyone here? |
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| 06:20.47 | apometron | scorp: try man konsole or man bash |
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| 06:21.15 | scorp | ok i will try |
| 06:21.41 | scorp | man konsole is unavailable |
| 06:21.46 | rogue | i have just installed yakuake and it is not 'source'ing my .bashrc |
| 06:22.20 | apometron | man konsole not available here also, but bash works |
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| 06:22.35 | scorp | yep |
| 06:22.55 | qupada | rogue: yakuake works fine here, what does your ~/.bash_profile say? |
| 06:23.06 | apometron | i am not expert, so i dont have clue about this source problem with .bashrc |
| 06:23.20 | apometron | let me see |
| 06:23.21 | rogue | it is empty... i deleted it yesterday (as a cleanup of my home dir) |
| 06:23.31 | rogue | qupad: yakuake works fine here, what does your ~/.bash_profile say? |
| 06:23.51 | rogue | qupad: sorry i am a newbie |
| 06:24.00 | qupada | qupada: mine says [ -f ~/.bashrc ] && . ~/.bashrc |
| 06:24.02 | qupada | wait |
| 06:24.05 | qupada | need sleep |
| 06:24.24 | rogue | qupada: ok... let me try |
| 06:24.36 | apometron | $ cat .bashrc |
| 06:24.37 | apometron | # /etc/bash.bashrc |
| 06:24.37 | apometron | [ -f /etc/profile ] && . /etc/profile |
| 06:25.41 | rogue | apometron: is there an 'if' there too? |
| 06:26.03 | qupada | the [ -f file ] is an implicit "if this file exists" |
| 06:26.12 | rogue | $ cat .bash_profile |
| 06:26.17 | rogue | [ -f /etc/profile ] && . /etc/profile |
| 06:26.59 | scorp | apometron: but what keeps track of history? is it bash or konsole? |
| 06:27.03 | apometron | yes =) if -f is an "if" comand, yes, it did =) |
| 06:27.16 | apometron | mmm, i think it is bash |
| 06:27.31 | rogue | scorp: bash stores command history in ~/.bash_history |
| 06:27.41 | scorp | then if you hit 'clear history' in konsole, does it execute a bash command. |
| 06:27.50 | scorp | rogue: no i dont want command history |
| 06:27.53 | scorp | i want line history |
| 06:28.11 | rogue | scorp: line history is maintained my konsole |
| 06:28.14 | apometron | the visual image of konsole? |
| 06:28.30 | rogue | scorp: and clear is bash command... it has nothing to do with konsole... |
| 06:28.30 | scorp | basically what i want to do is have a program open a specific terminal with unlimited history |
| 06:28.32 | apometron | scrollback? |
| 06:28.32 | scorp | and only that one |
| 06:28.48 | rogue | scorp: ok |
| 06:28.50 | scorp | well konsole has 1000 line history default |
| 06:29.00 | scorp | which is fine for normal stuff |
| 06:29.14 | scorp | but i have a program which spews lots of info into the konsole |
| 06:29.25 | scorp | and if i want to see what what at the beginning, it gets clipped |
| 06:29.41 | scorp | so i want just 1 konsole with unlimited history to start up with the app |
| 06:29.58 | scorp | if there would be a command line switch like -hist=0 or something |
| 06:30.04 | scorp | for unlimited |
| 06:30.37 | scorp | the other alternative is logging it to a file |
| 06:30.44 | scorp | which i could do -- but |
| 06:30.55 | scorp | i want it to also display at least 1000 lines in the konsole |
| 06:31.02 | scorp | and just check the log if needed |
| 06:31.37 | scorp | so my next question is this: can i log to konsole for 1000 lines and at the same time log to a file? |
| 06:31.39 | scorp | the same text? |
| 06:32.28 | apometron | scorp: unfortunately, i dont have a clue yet about this |
| 06:32.41 | scorp | about which issue? |
| 06:32.54 | apometron | log for two targets |
| 06:33.01 | scorp | ah ok |
| 06:33.39 | scorp | well the furthest i got was redirecting the console output to a file.. i.e. maya &> ~/mayaoutput.log |
| 06:33.52 | scorp | but that way it doesnt display in the console |
| 06:34.01 | scorp | just logs to the file. |
| 06:34.48 | apometron | maybe you can do the same redirecting for two targets, one for file and other for the screen |
| 06:34.51 | scorp | anyone know how to keep it displaying in the konsole, as well as outputing to a file? |
| 06:35.00 | scorp | is screen stdout? |
| 06:35.02 | scorp | or what? |
| 06:35.05 | apometron | yes1 |
| 06:35.07 | apometron | yes! |
| 06:35.11 | scorp | ok |
| 06:35.15 | scorp | i try |
| 06:36.23 | rogue | scorp: you can look into the dcop calls |
| 06:36.37 | scorp | google? |
| 06:36.52 | apometron | what dcop stands for? |
| 06:36.54 | rogue | may be... i am myself searching :) |
| 06:36.58 | scorp | lol |
| 06:37.03 | scorp | i dont even know what that is |
| 06:37.33 | apometron | huahua =) needs some googleing to find it |
| 06:37.36 | rogue | dcop is a way to communicate through KDE programs from a command |
| 06:37.56 | apometron | interprocess comunication =) |
| 06:38.01 | rogue | yeah :) |
| 06:38.06 | apometron | wow =))) |
| 06:38.16 | scorp | ah ok |
| 06:38.18 | rogue | as i said, a n00b at this end of the computer :) |
| 06:38.43 | apometron | bit of it here also =) |
| 06:39.17 | rogue | scorp: open konsole and type dcop... you will find something related to konsole |
| 06:39.17 | scorp | hmm |
| 06:39.34 | scorp | i see a list of apps |
| 06:39.44 | rogue | scorp: for example... here i find 'konsole-29894' |
| 06:40.00 | apometron | man dcop |
| 06:40.01 | scorp | btw when i appended stdout to the command line of the shortcut it screwed up maya's viewport |
| 06:40.04 | rogue | scorp: then you can give command: dcop konsole-29894 |
| 06:40.22 | scorp | hmm i see a konsole-11422 |
| 06:40.32 | rogue | scorp: yeah |
| 06:40.41 | rogue | scorp: that way you can see available functions of konsole to other programs |
| 06:40.54 | scorp | hmm |
| 06:40.58 | rogue | scorp: see if something related to history is related or not |
| 06:41.05 | rogue | *available |
| 06:41.18 | scorp | dont thik there is |
| 06:42.01 | rogue | i see one: dcop konsole-29894 session-1 |
| 06:42.02 | scorp | http://rafb.net/paste/results/aszY6q87.html |
| 06:42.07 | rogue | you can google though |
| 06:42.14 | scorp | ya i can see session 1 |
| 06:42.45 | rogue | so what is the output? |
| 06:42.54 | scorp | of the session-1? |
| 06:42.58 | rogue | yep |
| 06:43.19 | scorp | http://rafb.net/paste/results/5dDYga14.html |
| 06:43.22 | rogue | i see clearHistory |
| 06:43.29 | scorp | ya |
| 06:43.32 | scorp | me too |
| 06:43.40 | rogue | yeah... |
| 06:43.41 | scorp | how do i use these functions? |
| 06:43.42 | scorp | lool |
| 06:43.50 | rogue | now time to do google :) |
| 06:43.56 | scorp | hehe |
| 06:44.05 | scorp | looks like some c++ code |
| 06:44.10 | rogue | this way: dcop konsole-29894 session-1 clearHistory |
| 06:44.20 | scorp | ah ok |
| 06:44.27 | rogue | those are functions you can call from command |
| 06:44.39 | rogue | for example: dcop kicker kicker restart |
| 06:44.56 | scorp | cool worked |
| 06:44.59 | scorp | the history thing |
| 06:45.06 | scorp | but dont see an option to set to unlimited |
| 06:45.12 | scorp | or to set the number of lines |
| 06:45.30 | rogue | search more for the feature you want... gotta go now |
| 06:45.37 | scorp | ok |
| 06:45.39 | rogue | take help from google |
| 06:45.40 | scorp | thx |
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| 06:51.10 | geddy123 | Any you guys know a good linux torrent client? |
| 06:51.17 | geddy123 | i hate ktorrent |
| 06:51.36 | qupada | azureus, provided you don't hate java also |
| 06:52.16 | geddy123 | well see the thing is |
| 06:52.33 | geddy123 | i installed azureus (i used it on windows and loved it) but when i go to open it nothing happens |
| 06:53.07 | qupada | no error messages if you start it from a console even? |
| 06:53.55 | geddy123 | hrm |
| 06:54.22 | geddy123 | whats the command to launch it in console? |
| 06:54.35 | qupada | azureus |
| 06:57.10 | geddy123 | says command not found |
| 06:57.44 | qupada | probably installed in /opt or somewhere else not in your $PATH |
| 07:01.09 | geddy123 | mybe the java i have installed isn't up to date? |
| 07:01.09 | geddy123 | i want to get it to work before i go to bed |
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| 07:02.15 | qupada | geddy123: what java? i have sun (jdk) 1.5.0_04 |
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| 07:03.51 | geddy123 | i dont know |
| 07:03.57 | geddy123 | how do i find out my java? |
| 07:04.24 | qupada | java -version |
| 07:05.19 | geddy123 | says command not found |
| 07:05.50 | qupada | i see |
| 07:06.19 | qupada | first step might be to add the path to the java executables to your $PATH in .bashrc |
| 07:06.41 | qupada | "export PATH=$PATH:/path/to/java/stuff" |
| 07:07.06 | geddy123 | o.o |
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| 07:07.13 | geddy123 | say what? |
| 07:07.40 | qupada | what |
| 07:07.56 | geddy123 | can't i just reinstall it? |
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| 07:08.06 | qupada | if you want |
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| 07:08.46 | qupada | whatever you do, it still needs to be included in the PATH variable, unless you can run java with just 'java' on the command line it isnt going to do anything |
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| 07:30.48 | snowowl | hello |
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| 08:02.10 | motyR | Hi, where is the option to choose a ruber band selector in kcontrol? |
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| 08:20.42 | paradocs | hi motyR |
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| 08:25.31 | motyR | hi |
| 08:25.52 | paradocs | hi I will tell you were it is if you tell me what it is ;-) |
| 08:26.01 | motyR | ok:) |
| 08:26.24 | paradocs | Look in Appearance --> style |
| 08:26.36 | paradocs | check Enable GUI |
| 08:26.54 | paradocs | ok also style tab in style |
| 08:26.54 | motyR | oh yes |
| 08:27.06 | paradocs | ok so what is it? |
| 08:27.29 | motyR | yes this is what i mean |
| 08:27.58 | paradocs | what does it do, what good is it? |
| 08:28.08 | motyR | :) |
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| 08:28.40 | motyR | in konqi when u select files it makes a nice tranlucent selection |
| 08:29.00 | paradocs | ok i may try it sometime |
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| 08:33.17 | sredna | Olleh |
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| 08:33.53 | Rudolph | i need help |
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| 08:34.36 | sredna | Rudolph: Read the topic, and ask specific questions |
| 08:35.00 | Rudolph | sredna, How can i to improve my sound on Real Video streams? |
| 08:35.36 | sredna | Rudolph: Ask the channel -- I for example is not a sound wizard, but someone else might be |
| 08:35.49 | Rudolph | How can i to improve my sound on Real Video streams? |
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| 09:00.32 | sredna | Hm, saturday morning CET isn't the most lively time on this channel ;) |
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| 09:04.57 | sredna | bssteph: :\ |
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| 09:05.47 | bssteph | wisconsin, usa |
| 09:05.59 | bssteph | smack in the middle of approximately nowhere ;) |
| 09:06.31 | bssteph | and seeing as how it is 3 am, i should get going to bed |
| 09:08.22 | bssteph | having to actually get up before noon for classes has put a damper on my normal night owl schedule |
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| 09:22.40 | bUscher-g2 | is there any quene function in konqueror for ftp downloads? |
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| 09:46.17 | murr | how do i get rid of the numbers in the desktop chooser? |
| 09:46.43 | Tm_T | murr: rightclick it |
| 09:47.08 | murr | Tm_T: it's not there ;) |
| 09:47.08 | Tm_T | "wtf my mouse has two buttons" |
| 09:47.25 | Tm_T | murr: if you talk about kicker minipager, yes it is |
| 09:47.47 | murr | Tm_T: ah, oh, it's in the menu. rigth :) |
| 09:48.04 | Tm_T | murr: rightclick pager -> pager options -> |
| 09:48.16 | murr | Tm_T: yeah. thanks =) |
| 09:48.22 | Tm_T | np |
| 09:48.32 | murr | Tm_T: i was looking in the panel configuration |
| 09:49.11 | Tm_T | I mean, for ages half of functions are been in that another button, and still people don't know it |
| 09:49.13 | murr | Tm_T: err... i mean in the "configure desktops" |
| 09:49.40 | Tm_T | and by this I don't mean murr just you, but in general ;) |
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| 09:50.39 | murr | Tm_T: heh. well, i always forget that option is there. |
| 09:51.38 | Tm_T | I don't, I use rightclick a lot |
| 09:52.27 | murr | Tm_T: eh, i do know about rightclicking, i'm not that new to computers :P |
| 09:52.46 | murr | Tm_T: but i was looking fot the option in "Configure Desktops..." |
| 09:53.15 | murr | Tm_T: while it was straight in the menu... |
| 09:54.28 | murr | oh well, gotta go |
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| 10:04.11 | EvilGuru | hi, I have some trouble getting konqueror to mount my cd's |
| 10:04.48 | EvilGuru | it works via the command line fine, but when I try it in konqueror I get an error about /dev/hda not being in my fstab |
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| 10:05.06 | EvilGuru | (which is kinda true, as in there I have /dev/cdrom which points to /dev/hda) |
| 10:05.26 | qupada | well since it's a symlink, just change fstab |
| 10:05.55 | SAngeli | I have kde suddently restarting while running applications. Is there a way to discover the cause of this? Would I be able to see in /var/log something? |
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| 10:16.45 | EvilGuru | thanks that worked |
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| 10:17.04 | EvilGuru | but it is quite disappointing that kde/hal/dbus is unable to work with symlinks |
| 10:17.39 | qupada | i don't even have /dev/cdrom, i upgraded udev one day and it was just gone... suffice to say you don't need it |
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| 10:19.19 | qupada | other than that, i've pretty much left hal and dbus to their own devices (no pun intended) and they just work |
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| 10:19.54 | pollox | hi |
| 10:20.12 | pollox | anyone know anything like f-spot for KDE ? |
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| 10:21.30 | marcusU | I'm using SVN from 3.5.1 tags, and now I'm trying to compile the stuff in extragear, but I get complaints in ./configure about not finding kde libs, widgets, etc. |
| 10:21.53 | marcusU | (All the base KDE modules like kdebase, kdegraphics compiled file.) |
| 10:21.55 | marcusU | find |
| 10:22.01 | qupada | pollox: i'm going to take a stab, based on a search for 'album' in gentoo's portage that you might want to try 'kalbum' |
| 10:23.47 | Bonkie | marcusU: did you use --prefix ? |
| 10:23.57 | pollox | qupada i will go to see it thanks |
| 10:24.03 | marcusU | No, I never use --prefix. |
| 10:24.43 | Bonkie | marcusU: try --prefix then :) pretty sure you need it |
| 10:24.47 | marcusU | I meant that I never use --prefix when compiling KDE stuff. |
| 10:24.58 | marcusU | Adding --prefix to configure does not help. |
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| 10:25.30 | Bonkie | --prefix=/path/to/kde doesn't help ? |
| 10:25.34 | marcusU | No, it does not. |
| 10:26.41 | Bonkie | uhm ... i always use --prefix so cant think of anything else |
| 10:27.12 | marcusU | It's only the stuff in the extragear/ module that fails. The main kde modules like kdemultimedia compile fine. |
| 10:27.24 | marcusU | And it's only this last time that I compiled that I'm having problems. |
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| 10:28.46 | qupada | i've always had problems with the extragear stuff. i checked out kdebluetooth because i wanted a newer version and i never managed to compile it |
| 10:29.07 | marcusU | The main thing I want to build is Kile. |
| 10:30.06 | marcusU | Kile still has some bugs, and the developers do not seem responsive. |
| 10:33.28 | benJIman | you will need --prefix with many distros |
| 10:33.33 | benJIman | what distro are you using marcusU ? |
| 10:34.26 | marcusU | All my KDE stuff is compiled from source tarballs, so it's not the regular Suse 9.3 setup, but I'm using Suse 9.3 |
| 10:34.43 | benJIman | compile it with --prefix=/opt/kde3 if you're using suse |
| 10:34.48 | marcusU | (And the other KDE components compiled from source fine.) |
| 10:35.07 | marcusU | I tried --prefix=/opt/kde3. Failed. |
| 10:35.21 | benJIman | you'll need to build all of kde with that prefix really |
| 10:35.28 | marcusU | I already did that. It's there. |
| 10:35.29 | benJIman | otherwise you'll end up with kde in /usr which isn't good |
| 10:35.53 | marcusU | KDE is installed in /opt/kde3. It's only extragear that's the problem. |
| 10:36.12 | benJIman | what error are you getting with extragear? |
| 10:36.27 | qupada | have you considered a release version of kile instead of an svn checkout? |
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| 10:36.44 | benJIman | and why don't you use the suse packages JOOI? the suse packages have lots of useful patches, like yast integration and other usability improvements |
| 10:36.55 | marcusU | qupada: I was hoping that some of the Kile bugs would be fixed. |
| 10:37.09 | marcusU | Also, 3.5 release can't print many of my webpages. |
| 10:37.38 | marcusU | (Konqueror just consumes all available memory when printing stuff on work's web page.) |
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| 10:49.05 | dune | Hi, how can I add a command to the actions option in right click menu? |
| 10:51.54 | dune | Basically I want to run a bin or run file just by clicking the mouse on it. |
| 10:56.17 | kendhome | dune: services :) |
| 10:56.34 | kendhome | lemme dig up the details |
| 10:56.36 | kendhome | then i gotta get to bed |
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| 10:58.46 | kendhome | so you'd create a "whatever.desktop" file in your ~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror/servicemenus/ directory |
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| 10:59.21 | kendhome | for example, a little thing that runs "strings" on Word Docs would look like this: |
| 10:59.30 | kendhome | [Desktop Entry] |
| 10:59.30 | kendhome | ServicesTypes=application/msword |
| 10:59.30 | kendhome | Actions=ViewWordDocasHTML |
| 10:59.43 | kendhome | (which tells it what kind of file(s) the action should appear for) |
| 10:59.59 | kendhome | followed by a blank line, and then: |
| 11:00.05 | kendhome | [Desktop Action ViewWordDocasHTML] |
| 11:00.06 | kendhome | Name=View Word Doc as HTML |
| 11:00.08 | kendhome | Exec=strings %f > $HOME/tmp/tmp.txt ; konqueror $HOME/tmp/tmp.txt |
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| 11:01.43 | dune | ok thanks |
| 11:01.44 | kendhome | though, hrm, not 100% sure _that_ one is working for me ;) |
| 11:02.14 | kendhome | but you can look at this: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=34096 |
| 11:02.38 | kendhome | and, assuming you know some bash (or other shell scripting or programming), you can pretty much make anything to anything |
| 11:02.56 | kendhome | i created some bash scripts that resize images using "convert" or netpbm tools, so that they're no wider than 400px across |
| 11:03.00 | kendhome | (but keep the same shape) |
| 11:03.12 | kendhome | i can highlight a folder full of jpegs and it'll resize them for me :) |
| 11:03.35 | kendhome | ... the kinda thing i'd normally do with a console shell script. but, like, KDE is just too cool. :) so i had to be able to do it here, too. |
| 11:03.43 | kendhome | ANYWAY, hope that helps! gnite! |
| 11:03.50 | qupada | i made a bash script that 'soft mutes' my sound by saving the volume level to a file, fading the volume to 0 in steps, then can restore by reading the file and fadinf up in a similar manner |
| 11:03.54 | qupada | shellscripts are fun |
| 11:04.11 | kendhome | dcop too ;) |
| 11:04.17 | kendhome | oops, i mean... "zzz" :) |
| 11:04.24 | kendhome | ('i'm never going to bed >:^P ) |
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| 11:09.05 | fek | moin |
| 11:09.21 | sredna | ~servicemenus |
| 11:09.22 | apt | well, servicemenus is http://developer.kde.org/documentation/tutorials/dot/servicemenus.html |
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| 11:19.18 | fragalot | hi, i'm having trouble with my KDE installation, and i'd like to know how to undo my 'emerge kde' |
| 11:20.24 | sredna | fragalot: Wrong channel, you need #gentoo or #gentoo-kde |
| 11:21.46 | fragalot | gentoo-kde doesnt give me a response |
| 11:22.00 | fragalot | havent tried gentoo yet... ok, thanks anyways |
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| 11:47.37 | pollox | hi anyone knows kalbum developers ? i'm trying contact with theme to send somethings about it and their email box are full |
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| 11:53.39 | Diavolo | hi |
| 12:00.31 | EvilGuru | can anyone tell me the best way to extract an iso |
| 12:00.40 | EvilGuru | as I do not really want to have to burn it |
| 12:00.48 | visik7 | mount it |
| 12:00.57 | visik7 | using loop |
| 12:01.01 | sredna | EvilGuru: Mount it and copy the files you want |
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| 12:01.29 | EvilGuru | when I right click I do not see a mount option |
| 12:01.35 | Diavolo | is there a kde application for the edonkey network? |
| 12:02.28 | sredna | EvilGuru: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=11577 <- install a mount iso action |
| 12:02.28 | visik7 | kmldonkey |
| 12:02.42 | Diavolo | another one? :) |
| 12:02.52 | visik7 | Diavolo: I don't think |
| 12:02.54 | Diavolo | i mean something like amule |
| 12:03.03 | visik7 | I use amuled |
| 12:03.09 | visik7 | with web iface |
| 12:03.16 | Diavolo | hm |
| 12:03.34 | visik7 | maybe someone will build a kde client for amule |
| 12:03.35 | Diavolo | strange that there is no motivation to start a project like this :) |
| 12:03.38 | visik7 | amuled |
| 12:03.55 | EvilGuru | why in the name of god does kiso need app-admin/sudo |
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| 12:04.10 | visik7 | 'couse mount is a root action |
| 12:04.30 | Diavolo | visik7: ah, you only start amuled and use the webfrontend? |
| 12:04.36 | visik7 | yes |
| 12:05.23 | EvilGuru | i thought that hal,dbus and pmount were there to solve that problem |
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| 12:07.56 | charles` | with 3.5's superkaramba I see how to get themes but... how do I delete them? |
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| 12:08.27 | visik7 | remove some stuff in your home |
| 12:09.46 | charles` | heh sucks they made it easy to add with a GUI and not remove |
| 12:10.02 | charles` | I'd rather have had to add by command line so I would know where the stuff is =P |
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| 12:10.47 | EvilGuru | Ok, I have installed Kiso, but it says that I need to start it as root first |
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| 12:13.42 | EvilGuru | just running it as root then closing it allows me to run it as a user |
| 12:14.52 | straw | EvilGuru: yes, it adds an entry to /etc/sudoers |
| 12:15.07 | EvilGuru | so I should never have to run it as root again? |
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| 12:16.02 | straw | if the author's made the entry correctly, then no |
| 12:17.09 | benJIman | EvilGuru: fuse allows filesystems in userspace, you'd need kernel 2.6.14 or newer though |
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| 12:28.47 | EvilGuru | fuse you say, hmm, me thinks |
| 12:29.58 | maro_ | can't you delete folders in kmail? |
| 12:31.08 | maro_ | over imap |
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| 12:48.00 | Gordon_Memory | benJIman: few days ago you told how to disable this transluent selection effect when selecting items... could you repeat it once? :) |
| 12:48.35 | benJIman | ~/.qt/kstylerc |
| 12:48.40 | benJIman | you can set it to false in there |
| 12:49.05 | Gordon_Memory | what was the options name? (i'm on a different machine atm) |
| 12:49.32 | StevenR | anyone able to go to http://www.eutc.org.uk/ in konqueror and see if the website's menus (mouseover about, events, etc) work? |
| 12:49.54 | Gordon_Memory | StevenR: does not here |
| 12:49.59 | benJIman | SemiTransparentRubberband |
| 12:50.05 | StevenR | Gordon_Memory: they don't work? |
| 12:50.18 | Gordon_Memory | StevenR: no, they don't work |
| 12:50.38 | StevenR | Gordon_Memory: god, not me then, I'll kick off an email to the webmaster cos he's not tested it enough....thanks. |
| 12:50.42 | StevenR | *good |
| 12:51.19 | Gordon_Memory | thanks again |
| 12:51.20 | Gordon_Memory | brb |
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| 12:55.30 | sredna | Webmasters relocating with javascript as the default too... |
| 12:56.15 | StevenR | sredna: yeah....the website is an interesting mash of several sites, due to having no money or host space and stuff. |
| 12:56.41 | sredna | StevenR: That is no excuse |
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| 12:58.31 | StevenR | sredna: well it's also that the web guys seem to suck....I did apply for the post, after doing it temporarilly to make sure the emailing didn't grow so huge, but politics and stuff got in the way so they gave the job to someone else.....they interviewed for no reason, other than politics |
| 12:59.01 | sredna | StevenR: How sad :\ |
| 12:59.58 | StevenR | sredna: I didn't mind not doing it.....but they didn't tell me that they'd made a decision, so when dave emailed asking for info so he could do stuff, I just became angry (not with dave, but with the committee) |
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| 13:01.07 | xerophyte | is there any kde version of chm viewer ?? |
| 13:01.17 | StevenR | xerophyte: kchm |
| 13:01.26 | StevenR | xerophyte: kde-apps.org is your friend |
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| 13:01.44 | StevenR | sredna: hows the kate/kwrite development going? |
| 13:01.45 | sredna | ( type apps: <search phrase> in konqerors address bar) |
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| 13:02.04 | sredna | StevenR: Pretty well actually, I think I did a good job with kate 2.5.1 |
| 13:02.28 | sredna | StevenR: Although I'm sorry that I didn't have time to fix those problems within the kde 3.5 release |
| 13:02.36 | ultrav1olet | I suppose I won't be kicked/banned for a little offtopic question: what is the English for a network of food stores? I'm writing a term paper but I can't find any information on the Internet on this topic |
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| 13:03.02 | StevenR | ultrav1olet: you mean like walmart in the US? |
| 13:03.23 | ultrav1olet | probably, I just cannot compare my country and USA |
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| 13:03.47 | sredna | StevenR: I'm about ready to start looking at the next iteration - kate for kde 4 by now, though I might keep working on the 3.5 branch in case we get to release a bit of features |
| 13:03.53 | ultrav1olet | StevenR: anyway what's the common name for walmart? |
| 13:04.00 | StevenR | ultrav1olet: "supermarket chain" is what we say in UK |
| 13:04.20 | ultrav1olet | fine, do americans use the same term? |
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| 13:08.17 | xerophyte | StevenR, there is no rpm for FC 4 hmmm |
| 13:09.27 | sredna | I believe kdevelop contains a chm reader |
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| 13:10.58 | StevenR | ultrav1olet: flatmate who lived in US last year suggests "superstore chain" or "supermarket chain" as possible terms |
| 13:11.18 | StevenR | xerophyte: so what? you have a compiler? build it your self :) |
| 13:11.40 | xerophyte | StevenR, dont like to install from source :) |
| 13:11.53 | xerophyte | anyways kchm != kchmview is that right |
| 13:11.53 | StevenR | xerophyte: why not? |
| 13:12.01 | xerophyte | StevenR, its hard to keep it update it |
| 13:12.11 | StevenR | xerophyte: there's kchm and kchmviewer |
| 13:12.22 | StevenR | xerophyte: it really isn't |
| 13:13.13 | ultrav1olet | StevenR: thank you! |
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| 13:21.35 | xst | I'm having a very strange problem: My session is freezing upon kde-login. That is: It takes ages just to show the background picture and when the "menu" comes up it is just a grey surface. No icons, no nothing. The programs I have set to be automatically loaded doesn't come up either. It is simply dead. It doesn't help to delete .kde and .kderc. What to do? It is kde. 3.5 |
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| 13:22.04 | insert_COiN | hi there |
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| 13:22.21 | headhunt3r | hi |
| 13:22.35 | insert_COiN | i've got a question about kopete. Is it possible that it can only show user pictures over MSN Protocol? |
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| 13:22.46 | headhunt3r | maybe a stupid question, but when will the source tarballs for 3.5.1 come out? |
| 13:23.11 | mark_alec | soon |
| 13:23.21 | pablet | hello I have a problem: when I plug my pendrive, I cant see the "info meta" tag un kde 3.5, and in kde.3.4.3 I was able to do it (kubuntu) |
| 13:23.29 | headhunt3r | lol, thx |
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| 13:23.38 | pablet | can anyone help me? |
| 13:25.05 | oGALAXYo | hmm i just was up to answer him |
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| 13:25.19 | oGALAXYo | see people.. if you dont answer within 10 seconds you scare away potential kde users :) |
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| 13:27.35 | Thrain | hello |
| 13:28.04 | Thrain | I just read on kde.org |
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| 13:28.33 | Thrain | that konqueror can use wine to run ActiveX controls or Shockwave Director |
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| 13:28.49 | Thrain | But... how do it make use of wine? |
| 13:28.58 | oGALAXYo | you use it |
| 13:29.08 | Thrain | ? |
| 13:29.21 | oGALAXYo | ? |
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| 13:29.45 | Thrain | oGALAXYo: you mean: if I install Quicktime or Shockwave Director in wine, konqueror will "automagically" use them? |
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| 13:32.30 | Thrain | oGALAXYo: ehi? |
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| 13:33.47 | xst | I have now made a new "clean" user and tried to make an "xinit" and thereafter an "kdeinit". But kdeinit simply freezes. What to do? |
| 13:34.17 | oGALAXYo | try 'startkde' in the .xinitrc file |
| 13:34.31 | oGALAXYo | echo "exec startkde" > ~/.xinitrc |
| 13:34.35 | oGALAXYo | startx |
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| 13:35.07 | pm | has kde 3.5.1 been released? |
| 13:35.13 | Japsu | pm: topic |
| 13:35.25 | Japsu | "Latest releases: stable: 3.5. See www.kde.org" |
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| 13:36.09 | oGALAXYo | xst: http://rafb.net/paste/results/5cypcn80.html thats how mine looks. |
| 13:36.35 | pm | it's in polish but it says that there are new packages repositories for upgrading to kde 3.5.1 (kubuntu) |
| 13:36.37 | pm | http://czytelnia.ubuntu.pl/node/41 |
| 13:37.37 | oGALAXYo | 3.5.1 is not on ftp.kde.org |
| 13:37.40 | pm | there's no info about kde 3.5 on www.kde.org, I've checked it out already Japsu |
| 13:37.41 | oGALAXYo | thus probably not released yet |
| 13:37.54 | xst | oGALAXYo: If I write "startkde" it just outputs "starting kde..." and waits forever |
| 13:38.10 | oGALAXYo | xst: run 'ldconfig' as root and then startkde as user again |
| 13:38.27 | oGALAXYo | xst: what distro and how did you install kde ? |
| 13:39.00 | xst | Ubuntu/Kubuntu |
| 13:39.12 | Japsu | pm: well shouldn't you then be able to deduce there's no kde 3.5.1 yet? |
| 13:39.13 | xst | It worked perfectly yesterday |
| 13:39.31 | pm | Japsu, look here http://kubuntu.org/packages/ |
| 13:39.49 | Japsu | oh my, isn't that evil |
| 13:40.09 | pm | should i upgrade or not? |
| 13:40.40 | xst | But when I shut down yesterday it complained about klauncher or something. But did a shutdown anyway. Today I can not init a kde session for any user |
| 13:41.41 | xst | The ldconfig follwed by a startkde just outputted: "Startkde: starting up. kdeinit: Shutting down running client..." |
| 13:41.45 | xst | And then stalled |
| 13:42.34 | oGALAXYo | <oGALAXYo> xst: what distro and how did you install kde ? |
| 13:42.42 | pm | Japsu, from what i see on kubuntu.org i deduce there is kde 3.5.1 already |
| 13:42.58 | pm | but it's strange there's no info about in on kde.org |
| 13:43.18 | straw | pm: it's common practice for distro makers to receive access to tarballs prior to general release. whether or not you should install kubuntu's packages now is a decision *you* need to make |
| 13:43.31 | oGALAXYo | pm: look, not KUBUNTU is releasing kde 3.5.1 ... the KDE people do release it... |
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| 13:43.45 | oGALAXYo | pm: so if kubuntu site writes that jesus and elvis are reborn then it mustn't be true. |
| 13:43.54 | straw | heh |
| 13:44.20 | pm | yes. i'm gonna try it |
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| 13:44.51 | straw | pm: well, if Stuff Breaks, don't come crying to us ;) |
| 13:45.12 | kevin | hi all |
| 13:45.16 | pm | if stuff breaks then i'll go back to kde 3.5.0 |
| 13:46.14 | pm | ok, now i switch to xfce :) |
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| 13:47.06 | kevin | hi <straw> |
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| 13:48.26 | meriad_ | sup kde sucks |
| 13:48.27 | meriad_ | btw |
| 13:48.27 | meriad_ | ;> |
| 13:48.30 | meriad_ | its a lame lame lame thing |
| 13:48.31 | meriad_ | btw |
| 13:48.32 | meriad_ | im a troll |
| 13:48.36 | meriad_ | and im a reallllllly drunk troll |
| 13:48.36 | meriad_ | ;> |
| 13:50.14 | oGALAXYo | i wish computer prices would increase drastically again.. |
| 13:50.28 | oGALAXYo | in the times of mid 80's a modem costs around 500-600 euro |
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| 13:50.35 | oGALAXYo | a computer over 1200 euro.. |
| 13:50.43 | oGALAXYo | it would make the internet free from idiot.s |
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| 13:52.35 | xst | oGALAXYo: FYI: A simple reboot fixed my KDE-problem |
| 13:52.44 | xst | Very strange |
| 13:52.44 | Pinaraf | oGALAXYo: there's perhaps another possibility... |
| 13:52.56 | Pinaraf | when somebody wants to connect to the internet |
| 13:53.04 | Pinaraf | he should answer a simple question like : |
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| 13:53.34 | Pinaraf | "A number of this list isn't a prime number, find it : 1,2,3,5,7,9,11,13" |
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| 13:55.43 | rabauke | Hello! Does anybody else see that in latest BRANCH the icons in konqueror's status-bar are cut off at the top and bottom? |
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| 13:56.58 | rabauke | in 3.5 BRANCH I mean, not sure about 3.5.1 |
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| 13:57.53 | oGALAXYo | 3.5 branch basicly is what gets 3.5.1 |
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| 14:02.27 | rabauke | So is this bug known? |
| 14:02.36 | rabauke | everybody should see it. |
| 14:03.06 | rabauke | I tested with different icon-themes, same result |
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| 14:06.46 | ThinkingInBinary | KDE ROCKS! |
| 14:07.04 | ThinkingInBinary | I just found out you can get Kopete to reformat chats based on XSLT files! EAT THAT GAIM! |
| 14:07.24 | ThinkingInBinary | Whoops, never mind, just saw the topic :-b |
| 14:08.11 | ThinkingInBinary | Is there any way to get Kopete not to spew Away messages into IRC channels? |
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| 14:09.14 | visik7 | hi |
| 14:09.16 | visik7 | where is the history of konqueror ? |
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| 14:11.33 | ThinkingInBinary | visik7: I can't find it, but it's on the "Universal Sidebar" panel. |
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| 14:12.59 | visik7 | oh ok |
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| 14:13.57 | ijwyn | system notifications don't work on my machine for some reason... sound is enabled, the test works fine, xmms works, but when I go to the 'system notifications' section in KControl and try to test the sounds, I get nothing |
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| 14:15.15 | ijwyn | when I change the 'player settings' to use an external player (xmms) it works, but when I switch back to 'KDE sound system' no more sound... what am I missing here? |
| 14:15.20 | ThinkingInBinary | Speaking of sound, KDE's (3.4.5 at least) startup sound rocks. |
| 14:15.53 | ijwyn | see, I don't get any startup sound either, I've noticed... probably the same issue |
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| 14:18.49 | ThinkingInBinary | ijwyn: arts problem? |
| 14:19.07 | ijwyn | probably |
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| 14:19.16 | ijwyn | not like it's the most reliable driver :-o |
| 14:19.24 | ijwyn | not sure what to do about it though |
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| 14:21.33 | ponto | which encryption does kwallet use to protect the filesß |
| 14:21.46 | Japsu | AES would be my best guess |
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| 14:24.06 | ThinkingInBinary | Um, I have a few problems with Kopete... It displays the /topic of IRC channels in the window titles, often overflowing the title bar. It displays an odd sequence of messages when you type "/part". (It thinks you're trying to send a message, and says "A message send is in progress...") And it spits out a ridiculous number of "Online/Away" messages when you join an IRC channel. |
| 14:24.21 | ThinkingInBinary | Are any of these fixed in KDE 3.5? |
| 14:27.27 | oGALAXYo | ThinkingInBinary: use konversation |
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| 14:27.43 | oGALAXYo | ThinkingInBinary: kde's default IRC client is konversation, which is heavily inproved. |
| 14:27.44 | ThinkingInBinary | oGALAXYo: Is it just as multi-protocol as Kopete? |
| 14:27.51 | ThinkingInBinary | oGALAXYo: Oh, it's only IRC. :-( |
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| 14:28.00 | oGALAXYo | konversation is an IRC client like xchat. |
| 14:28.27 | oGALAXYo | http://img500.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot16jn.png |
| 14:28.30 | oGALAXYo | looks like this |
| 14:29.04 | ThinkingInBinary | oGALAXYo: pretty |
| 14:29.16 | ThinkingInBinary | oGALAXYo: /me is now building Konversation. |
| 14:29.26 | ThinkingInBinary | oGALAXYo: (Gentoo) |
| 14:29.28 | oGALAXYo | get the version from SVN |
| 14:29.32 | ThinkingInBinary | oGALAXYo: oh ok |
| 14:29.40 | ThinkingInBinary | oGALAXYo: URL? |
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| 14:31.13 | ThinkingInBinary | oGALAXYo: Does anyone make an IM/chat program that is as friendly as Gaim/Kopete for IM but not clumsy on IRC? All of them are designed for small chat rooms, and grumble (Kopete spews Away messages--bad, Gaim hangs until the list is loaded--worse) when used on IRC. |
| 14:31.51 | oGALAXYo | ThinkingInBinary: sure... we wait for your contribution to make this happen. |
| 14:32.12 | ThinkingInBinary | oGALAXYo: okay. Where do I get KDE SVN stuff? |
| 14:32.22 | ThinkingInBinary | oGALAXYo: It's in C++, right? |
| 14:32.28 | oGALAXYo | anonsvn.kde.org |
| 14:32.44 | xerophyte | what us do you guys .. i am using Fedora core its seems buggy thinking about switching to Ubuntu what do you guys think :) |
| 14:32.45 | oGALAXYo | ThinkingInBinary: no it requires a mixture of java, mono, visual basic and perl |
| 14:32.55 | ThinkingInBinary | oGALAXYo: you're kidding. |
| 14:33.13 | SMiLeaf | lol |
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| 14:33.34 | ThinkingInBinary | oGALAXYo: You kid, but there is some Gnome stuff that is actually written in C#. |
| 14:34.08 | oGALAXYo | ThinkingInBinary: yeah i know. i am coming from the gnome world.. been contributing to it for the past 6 years and was a former foundation member there as well. |
| 14:34.18 | oGALAXYo | ThinkingInBinary: what i actually wanted to say is "wasted 6 years" |
| 14:34.29 | ThinkingInBinary | oGALAXYo: Were you swayed by Torvalds, or he just knocked some sense into you? |
| 14:34.32 | ThinkingInBinary | oGALAXYo: ;-) |
| 14:34.33 | gravix | =( |
| 14:34.44 | oGALAXYo | ThinkingInBinary: read my last 2 lines. |
| 14:34.56 | ThinkingInBinary | oGALAXYo: No, I mean what made you leave? |
| 14:35.06 | oGALAXYo | thats a long story.. |
| 14:35.14 | straw | heh ;) |
| 14:35.15 | oGALAXYo | it goes back for a few years actually.. |
| 14:35.36 | straw | ThinkingInBinary: don't get him started... |
| 14:35.45 | ThinkingInBinary | oGALAXYo: please, PM me, to save everyone else |
| 14:36.01 | oGALAXYo | no, i am tired to explain that junk over and over again. |
| 14:36.04 | SMiLeaf | morning all :) |
| 14:36.20 | oGALAXYo | ThinkingInBinary: take my word.. forget gnome, use kde. |
| 14:36.27 | straw | hello SMiLeaf |
| 14:36.34 | SMiLeaf | hey straw ! |
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| 14:37.03 | ijwyn | to sum up Galaxy's thoughts: Gnome is a conspiracy to take over the world ;-) |
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| 14:37.43 | oGALAXYo | no |
| 14:37.56 | SMiLeaf | ijwyn: that's a bad thing? :S |
| 14:38.07 | straw | ijwyn: no, that's a general goal we all share :P |
| 14:38.11 | oGALAXYo | its simpler than that.. its simply broken, the developer community (used) to be full of shit, nothing really works, dictatorship, crap mentality, suckage. |
| 14:38.30 | ijwyn | lol @ SMiLeaf & straw |
| 14:38.39 | ThinkingInBinary | oGALAXYo: Danger, long message ahead. |
| 14:38.44 | ThinkingInBinary | oGALAXYo: I had tried KDE before (3.1-ish) and was put off by the looks (I don't like Keramik) and the K menu (it seemed less organized than GNOME). So I used GNOME for a while. I experienced a bit of the "we're hiding features for your own good", and *hated* having things like Beagle (desktop search) run on Mono. It's stupid. And it didn't let me configure *anything*.So I switched to a minimalist system with openbox. My desktop |
| 14:39.01 | ThinkingInBinary | oGALAXYo: shortcuts. It rocked. Then Torvalds posted, and I figured I ought to give KDE a second chance. I did, and I discovered what he was talking about. Advanced window manager settings, keyboard shortcuts, a system tray that doesn't hide things, powerful apps that don't crash (cough-evolution-sucks-cough). So I use KDE now. |
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| 14:39.52 | oGALAXYo | ThinkingInBinary: http://www.novell.com/prblogs/index.php?title=kde_and_gnome&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1 |
| 14:39.56 | oGALAXYo | ThinkingInBinary: comment #30 and #31 |
| 14:40.16 | ijwyn | yeah, I find KDE to be a lot more powerful, in the sense that it gives the user lots more control over it... and I love its looks :-) |
| 14:40.16 | oGALAXYo | ThinkingInBinary: though while i explain a bunch of things there it still don't cover all the stuff that i really like to say. |
| 14:40.18 | ThinkingInBinary | oGALAXYo: I understand. I never got Beagle to work, I never consistently got automounting to work, I never ever got printing to work, and from the sound of it they want to make a desktop that appeals to people who don't want to really use their computers. |
| 14:40.27 | ThinkingInBinary | ijwyn: Exactly. |
| 14:42.56 | straw | thing is, KDE almost goes to far in that direction. new users can easily spend 1/2 an hour trying to find where to change their mouse from single-click to double in kcontrol :) |
| 14:43.24 | SMiLeaf | straw: and it was a 1/2 an hour worth it! :D |
| 14:43.27 | oGALAXYo | yeah but actually they can do it. |
| 14:43.33 | gravix | i prefer too many options to not enough options |
| 14:43.35 | benJIman | wheras in gnome they'd spend infinite time trying to work out how to change an app's keyboard shortcuts because usually you can' |
| 14:43.38 | benJIman | t |
| 14:43.51 | ThinkingInBinary | straw: Meh. I think it's pretty clear. Perhaps you guys should implement a search like Apple's Control Center, so you can type in "double click" and it will list the pages with options about that. |
| 14:43.52 | straw | whereas gnome treats all users new or otherwise like a lower form of primate... ;) |
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| 14:44.00 | TeaSea | Single click > Double click :) |
| 14:44.06 | ijwyn | that's true |
| 14:44.07 | benJIman | ThinkingInBinary: there is one allready |
| 14:44.09 | SMiLeaf | I spent 6 hours one time configuring KDE only to be hacked into because I was a linux newbie and set a short password :) |
| 14:44.14 | ThinkingInBinary | benJIman`: oh ok |
| 14:44.19 | ThinkingInBinary | benJIman: whoops |
| 14:44.25 | ThinkingInBinary | benJIman: Yeah, you're right. Sorry. |
| 14:44.30 | ThinkingInBinary | SMiLeaf: Ouch. Firewall. |
| 14:44.34 | SMiLeaf | had to do it again the next day :D |
| 14:44.41 | ThinkingInBinary | TeaSea: Terminal > Single click. |
| 14:44.47 | Authority | Can I save my session in any other way besides logging out? |
| 14:44.49 | TeaSea | Yes :) |
| 14:44.50 | ThinkingInBinary | straw: :-) |
| 14:44.54 | SMiLeaf | ThinkingInBinary: 12+ length password. |
| 14:45.00 | ThinkingInBinary | SMiLeaf: hehe, mine is only 6. |
| 14:45.03 | SMiLeaf | ThinkingInBinary: changed monthly |
| 14:45.17 | benJIman | http://bw.uwcs.co.uk/screenshots/doubleclick.png |
| 14:45.29 | gravix | just disable remote logon if you have a short password |
| 14:46.10 | SMiLeaf | I'd rather set a long password than disable remote login in 1 of my computers. |
| 14:46.26 | SMiLeaf | I don't wanna hook up a monitor every few hours .. lol |
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| 14:47.32 | ThinkingInBinary | *Oh* KDE also uses MUCH less RAM than GNOME! I'm running Kopete, Konquerer, Kontact, and a (GNOME, sorry) terminal. In GNOME my 512MB would be almost all used. Here's it's only about 50-60% used, and that's *with* GCC building Konversation in the background. |
| 14:47.33 | straw | benJIman: unfortunately, i'd bet most new users won't touch Search or Help at first, but go looking |
| 14:47.46 | SMiLeaf | tho that hack was kinda interesting... at first I was thinking "wow. I'm gaining space.. how is that happening?" |
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| 14:49.32 | ThinkingInBinary | BTW, evolution-data-server, which gnome thinks is good, is horrible. |
| 14:49.33 | SMiLeaf | search and help? don't think I've ever read those :) |
| 14:49.47 | ijwyn | straw: maybe it's not obvious enough... I know I didn't notice that search feature until months after I'd installed linux/KDE |
| 14:49.58 | TeaSea | Also GNOME eats small children. |
| 14:50.02 | SMiLeaf | oops.. have once.. kioslaves don't have a --help :) |
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| 14:50.26 | ThinkingInBinary | TeaSea: yeah |
| 14:50.28 | ThinkingInBinary | TeaSea: it does |
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| 14:50.44 | SMiLeaf | TeaSea: don't gnomes look like small children?... "you are what you eat?" :S |
| 14:51.00 | straw | ok, topic |
| 14:51.00 | TeaSea | Gnomes can be whatever size they want to be, they're just generally small. |
| 14:51.03 | oGALAXYo | small children have smaller brains. |
| 14:51.10 | SMiLeaf | ah. |
| 14:51.14 | SMiLeaf | hehe :) |
| 14:51.30 | SMiLeaf | straw: topic? .. we are talking about gnomes . not GNOME :D |
| 14:51.34 | straw | let's not degenerate into trolls |
| 14:51.41 | CF | any devs here? |
| 14:51.49 | TeaSea | Okay, what's the topic. |
| 14:52.03 | SMiLeaf | how about elfs? :P |
| 14:52.32 | ThinkingInBinary | join #kdevsgnome for more debate. |
| 14:52.34 | TeaSea | Actually i'm gonna go :D |
| 14:52.36 | benJIman | straw: not that that setting is particularly dfficult to find # |
| 14:52.40 | TeaSea | Adios. |
| 14:52.54 | straw | TeaSea: its the text you didn't bother reading when you joined #kde |
| 14:52.57 | straw | doh |
| 14:53.06 | SMiLeaf | lol |
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| 14:53.11 | ThinkingInBinary | straw: It shows up *after* the 500 |
| 14:53.23 | ThinkingInBinary | straw: "___ is now Away" messages. |
| 14:53.41 | straw | benJIman: i've helped many a user find it in here |
| 14:53.54 | benJIman | straw: many a user asks before looking |
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| 14:54.27 | SMiLeaf | or in some programs the topic is displayed at the top of the app. but being it's at the end of the topic I can't see it atm. |
| 14:54.28 | straw | benJIman: yeah. that supports my initial argument... |
| 14:54.35 | benJIman | there are many settings that are difficult to find, like keyboard shortcuts under regional & acessability, but that isn't really one of them |
| 14:54.47 | benJIman | straw: if they don't look at all it doesn't matter how easy it is to find |
| 14:55.25 | Kovecses | my kmplayer says mplayer not running while trying to watch a movie? .. but mplayer is installed any ideas? |
| 14:55.32 | SMiLeaf | most of the time users will look.. but if it's not in the first place they think it should be.. they ask. |
| 14:56.05 | ijwyn | SMiLeaf: if you're using xchat, leave your mouse over the topic bar and the whole text will display in a separate box |
| 14:56.10 | straw | benJIman: most of the time, they'll have had a cursory look around but were unsuccessful or didn't find the setting where they intuitively thought it might be found. |
| 14:56.23 | SMiLeaf | ijwyn: ya konversation does that too.. |
| 14:56.35 | SMiLeaf | ijwyn: but at an eye glance I can't see it. |
| 14:56.42 | ijwyn | true |
| 14:56.49 | benJIman | straw: out of the top level kcontrol sections there is nothing else Icould think it could be under |
| 14:56.53 | SMiLeaf | last few words I see is "Please don't flood the" |
| 14:57.03 | ijwyn | and usually you'll only discover that mouse function through random chance, lol |
| 14:57.25 | ThinkingInBinary | Where is konversation in svn? |
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| 14:58.14 | straw | benJIman: our expectations are going to be much different than those of a first-time or occasional user |
| 14:58.37 | benJIman | straw: indeed, but nothing else there is even remotely related |
| 14:58.45 | Kovecses | my kmplayer says mplayer not running while trying to watch a movie? .. but mplayer is installed any ideas? |
| 14:59.17 | SMiLeaf | straw: we could stop using a computer for a year.. and then start every week or so just to give feed back .. and then after that we could start flapping our wings to fly away~.... |
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| 14:59.33 | straw | benJIman: yeah, i'd agree. which is probably why the setting is there |
| 14:59.40 | benJIman | peripherals is possibly not the best term to use, a little technical though, but it's probably one of the most organised settings in kcontrol, not the example i'd pick for a hard to find setting |
| 14:59.56 | SMiLeaf | Kovecses: have you tried to open your video in just mplayer yet? |
| 15:00.07 | Kovecses | SMiLeaf: yup that works fine |
| 15:00.11 | Sho_ | ThinkingInBinary: http://konversation.kde.org/wiki/index.php/Konversation_Tips_and_Tricks#Getting_Latest_Konversation_from_SVN |
| 15:00.29 | SMiLeaf | Kovecses: can't say I know what to tell you then.. I don't use kmplayer :( |
| 15:00.30 | straw | SMiLeaf: well, hopefully kde-usability will start having metrics devs can look at eventually |
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| 15:01.15 | SMiLeaf | Old version of kaffeine ! :D |
| 15:01.20 | treat | Is there an onscreen keyboard for kde? |
| 15:01.53 | SMiLeaf | treat: you might check-out kde-apps.org. |
| 15:02.00 | Sho_ | treat: You can always use xvkbd |
| 15:02.33 | treat | ok thanks |
| 15:02.52 | Sho_ | It's not Qt/KDE, but supports pretty much anything :) |
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| 15:14.45 | pm | i've installed kde 3.5.1 and so far it works great :))))))) |
| 15:15.26 | oGALAXYo | even if it was covered in dirt and mud it would still work great.. |
| 15:15.36 | oGALAXYo | compared to some other desktop environments and experiences i made. |
| 15:16.01 | pm | i like xfce but i like kde better |
| 15:16.51 | annma | pm: kde 3.5.1? |
| 15:17.01 | annma | is it ut yet? |
| 15:17.03 | annma | out |
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| 15:18.13 | pm | annma, i've only seen packages for kubuntu so far |
| 15:18.35 | frb-work | is it released, and just waiting on packages? |
| 15:19.00 | pm | no info about kde 3.5.1 on official page though |
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| 15:19.35 | pm | look here http://kubuntu.org/packages/ |
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| 15:29.18 | SMiLeaf | wahoo!! .. my glibc install finally worked! |
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| 15:32.33 | maro_ | is it possible to get smooth scrolling in konq? |
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| 15:35.45 | PhilRod | maro_: some distros apply a patch to make it do that, I think. SuSE, for one, IIRC |
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| 15:36.09 | ThinkingInBinary | Konversation is nice. |
| 15:36.11 | PhilRod | you could try to find the patch somewhere. Stefan Binner keeps a list of distributor patches |
| 15:36.29 | Gentle | wouldn't that "just" be a property of the khtml control to be changed? |
| 15:36.40 | maro_ | PhilRod: cool! thanks :) |
| 15:37.14 | PhilRod | Gentle: if the feature was there it would |
| 15:37.39 | PhilRod | I forget why it isn't included in vanilla kde - search the bugs database, there's some discussion there |
| 15:37.52 | ThinkingInBinary | Hey, has any desktop environment created localized icons? |
| 15:37.53 | benJIman | PhilRod: it's slow on old machines with lots of images in the page etc |
| 15:37.58 | PhilRod | and a hilarious comment by some idiot that he's going to fork kde, but that's incidental |
| 15:38.05 | PhilRod | benJIman: ah, ok |
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| 15:38.52 | maro_ | benJIman: can't it be <gnome buzzword>? :) |
| 15:39.01 | maro_ | (configurable) |
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| 15:40.01 | benJIman | http://ktown.kde.org/~binner/distributor-patches/SUSE/10.0-beta2/kdelibs3-3.4.2-11/smooth-scrolling.diff |
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| 15:40.18 | benJIman | maro_: it is disablale if you have that patch |
| 15:40.29 | maro_ | perfect! |
| 15:40.35 | maro_ | thanks a lot :) |
| 15:40.56 | PhilRod | benJIman: do you know why it wasn't included as an option? |
| 15:41.23 | annma | ThinkingInBinary: localized icons? |
| 15:41.24 | benJIman | PhilRod: not really, suse include it, it's only disableable via config file though afaik, no option in konqueror gui |
| 15:41.45 | maro_ | is there one diffed against 3.5? |
| 15:42.14 | ThinkingInBinary | annma: Yeah, like changing the house icon to look like different kinds of houses, or changing the text/numbers in icons (e.g. Kontact) to match different writing styles? |
| 15:42.22 | benJIman | maro_: extract a suse src rpm for kde 3.5 |
| 15:42.48 | annma | ThinkingInBinary: have a look at kde-look.org |
| 15:43.32 | PhilRod | ThinkingInBinary: in general, I expect icons are intended to be "neutral" wrt localization. Do you have a particular example of an icon that isn't? |
| 15:43.37 | xerophyte | how do you clean the trash ??? |
| 15:43.45 | maro_ | thanks for the hints and links :) |
| 15:43.49 | PhilRod | ok, the house icon, but one with writing perhaps? |
| 15:43.50 | maro_ | xerophyte: right click it |
| 15:43.58 | PhilRod | xerophyte: right click => empty trash |
| 15:44.00 | xerophyte | i mean in the file manager when i delete .. i dont have trash anywehre |
| 15:44.22 | annma | xerophyte: it depends if you delete or if you move to trash |
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| 15:44.25 | xerophyte | when i delete in the file manager it goes into tracsh but i dont see any trash anwyere |
| 15:44.36 | annma | xerophyte: trash:/ in konq |
| 15:44.38 | xerophyte | i move to trash how can i emty it |
| 15:44.44 | annma | right click |
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| 15:45.07 | xerophyte | thx |
| 15:45.09 | xerophyte | got it |
| 15:45.31 | paikan | is it possible to assign a global keyboard shortcut to pop up an applet of the panel |
| 15:45.42 | paikan | for example assign a shortcut to pop up the bookmark applet |
| 15:46.30 | annma | do you know the command to "pop up" this applet? |
| 15:46.48 | paikan | no |
| 15:46.53 | paikan | i have looked in kdcop |
| 15:46.57 | paikan | and found nothing |
| 15:47.10 | xerophyte | i have another problem my firefox is bigger than my screen how can make .. all fit in the screen i mean some webpages off my screen ?? |
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| 15:47.53 | xerophyte | I mean all the application stays in the screen but firefox seem to extend out of the screen its annoying .. does anybody know why is it |
| 15:47.54 | PhilRod | xerophyte: ask in #firefox |
| 15:48.04 | xerophyte | PhilRod, i think its KDE issue |
| 15:48.12 | paikan | but maybe i have missed something useful in kdcop |
| 15:48.27 | benJIman | xerophyte: alt+f3-x |
| 15:48.30 | PhilRod | xerophyte: run firefox in some other WM and see if it's the same there |
| 15:48.34 | paikan | i know that it is easy to assign a keyboard shortcut to any command |
| 15:48.48 | paikan | but cannot find a command to popup a panel applet |
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| 15:49.33 | xerophyte | benJIman, altf3+x make it small but still the firefox is so big it will not fit into the screeen when i maximum |
| 15:49.51 | darkstego | hey all, can anyone tell me why kde programs are suddenly taking 5 minutes to start? |
| 15:49.53 | xerophyte | PhilRod, when i had gnome didnt have that problem |
| 15:50.14 | benJIman | xerophyte: alt+f3 x will maximise, ie make it the size of your screen |
| 15:50.26 | benJIman | xerophyte: your display is set up wrongly if it's not fitting |
| 15:50.53 | darkstego | xerophyte, is this a second display? |
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| 15:53.04 | yoruichi | darkstego: 5 minutes? |
| 15:53.09 | darkstego | yes |
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| 15:53.26 | darkstego | I would click on kde apps like kwrite and krusader |
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| 15:53.36 | darkstego | 5 minutes later they pop up |
| 15:53.38 | yoruichi | how much ram you got? |
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| 15:53.45 | darkstego | 2 GB |
| 15:53.52 | darkstego | it isn't hardware |
| 15:53.59 | darkstego | it was working fine |
| 15:53.59 | jalexand | can anyone tell me where you set the color of the text for desktop shortcuts. I've looked all through the control panel but cant' find it |
| 15:54.00 | yoruichi | ah |
| 15:54.13 | yoruichi | darkstego: what distro? |
| 15:54.20 | darkstego | debian |
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| 15:54.37 | darkstego | I was thinking wether something in /home could be causing this |
| 15:54.58 | PhilRod | jalexand: under advanced options |
| 15:55.31 | yoruichi | darkstego: and maybe somthings in /tmp |
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| 15:55.43 | jalexand | PhilRod: for the theme or style |
| 15:55.50 | darkstego | should I just clear /tmp? |
| 15:55.54 | PhilRod | darkstego: read this thread: |
| 15:55.57 | PhilRod | ~slowstartup |
| 15:55.58 | apt | well, slowstartup is http://dot.kde.org/1065244432/1065325080/ |
| 15:56.37 | darkstego | thanks PhilRod, will check out the thread |
| 15:56.51 | PhilRod | darkstego: common solutions: make sure your hostname is set and that you have a loopback device. Set "KDE_NO_IPV6=1" in something that's read before KDE is started. |
| 15:57.22 | PhilRod | eg, create a script ~/.kde/env/foo.sh with content "export KDE_NO_IPV6=1" |
| 15:57.25 | darkstego | that is all setup |
| 15:57.39 | darkstego | but I am talking about stuff like konquorer |
| 15:58.10 | yoruichi | PhilRod: just curious, what does kde have to do w/ ipv6? |
| 15:58.15 | darkstego | for example |
| 15:58.33 | darkstego | if I open konqueror as a browser it opens write up |
| 15:58.35 | maro_ | benJIman: any clues where I can find that src rpm? |
| 15:58.57 | darkstego | but when I click on it to open my home directory it does not load |
| 15:59.00 | PhilRod | yoruichi: if it tries to do IPv6 DNS lookups and your IPv6 isn't completely set up (the case for most of us, I guess), it times out and everything goes slow |
| 15:59.51 | yoruichi | PhilRod: thanks |
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| 16:01.43 | jalexand | PhilRod: advanced options for what. I can't find anything that looks like a shortcut color or a icon text color in any option, advanced or not |
| 16:02.10 | PhilRod | hrm, apt knows this one. What's the magic word? |
| 16:02.12 | PhilRod | ~desktop-text |
| 16:02.20 | PhilRod | ~desktoptext |
| 16:02.21 | apt | You can change the colour of the text on desktop icons in the Control Center under Appearance & Themes -> Background -> Advanced options |
| 16:02.24 | PhilRod | yay |
| 16:02.47 | jalexand | PhilRod: oh there it is |
| 16:02.48 | jalexand | thanks |
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| 16:03.30 | oGALAXYo | ~mp3 |
| 16:03.31 | apt | i heard mp3 is (MPEG-1 layer 3) This is a compression standard for music. It enables you to fit over 100 full length songs on a single CD with almost no loss of quality. You can find MP3 players and MP3 files on the Web--you just have to look. The music industry is unhappy about MP3 files being swapped around and has shut down some sites that distribute them. |
| 16:03.57 | darkstego | ????? |
| 16:04.01 | darkstego | ok |
| 16:04.03 | PhilRod | heh, now you know what MP3 is, oGALAXYo :-) |
| 16:04.07 | yoruichi | unhappy :P |
| 16:04.20 | TeaSea | ~ogg |
| 16:04.23 | apt | hmm... ogg is found at http://www.xiph.org |
| 16:05.37 | PhilRod | while we're playing with the bot, let me make my occasional RFB (request for bot) - it would be nice to have our own bot for #kde (apt is used by lots of other channels) so we can get it to do lots of lovely useful things. Anyone able to host one? |
| 16:05.45 | darkstego | guys, what makes konqueror load up so slow? |
| 16:05.56 | darkstego | I mean in minutes not seconds |
| 16:06.00 | annma | darkstego: distro? |
| 16:06.06 | darkstego | debian |
| 16:06.07 | PhilRod | darkstego: did you read the comments I just made? |
| 16:06.12 | darkstego | yeah |
| 16:06.17 | yoruichi | darkstego: why not try a new user? |
| 16:06.17 | darkstego | it didn't help |
| 16:06.37 | oGALAXYo | darkstego: how much ram do you have ? and what system ? |
| 16:06.45 | PhilRod | darkstego: you set KDE_NO_IPV6? |
| 16:06.50 | darkstego | oGALAXYo, top of the line |
| 16:07.07 | darkstego | PhilRod, that has nothing to do with it |
| 16:07.15 | darkstego | it worked fine 3 weeks ago |
| 16:07.24 | annma | darkstego: then a new user will work |
| 16:07.25 | darkstego | suddenly my clock went off for some reason |
| 16:07.32 | PhilRod | darkstego: but did you try it? |
| 16:07.47 | darkstego | annma, probably, but it wont tell me what the problem is |
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| 16:07.59 | annma | we probably won't either |
| 16:08.11 | annma | isn't the most important to fix it? |
| 16:08.30 | darkstego | I don't want to start off as a new user, I have all my settings as this user |
| 16:08.36 | PhilRod | darkstego: you can ask for advice and then ignore the answers you're given, or you can do what we ask. I can tell you which is the best one to do |
| 16:08.54 | PhilRod | so, in summary, we're not stupid, we're suggesting these things for a reason, so please do them |
| 16:09.00 | annma | darkstego: as you wish but if you don't follow any lead, well, .... |
| 16:09.18 | darkstego | it isn't about ignoring PhilRod, I did read your link and thank you for it, but it didn't solve my problem |
| 16:09.33 | PhilRod | darkstego: and did you set KDE_NO_IPV6 as I suggested? |
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| 16:09.38 | oGALAXYo | yeah and exactly those people are filling comments everywhere why "kde doesn't work or suck" because they simply show inability to follow guidance or feedback. |
| 16:09.43 | PhilRod | and did you *try* a new user as anma suggested? |
| 16:10.09 | PhilRod | you don't have to use the new user all the time, but it provides a tool to tell where the problem is located, then you can move on to fixing it |
| 16:10.43 | darkstego | well, a new user doesn't even load |
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| 16:11.23 | darkstego | and now I lost my other monitor |
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| 16:11.47 | darkstego | my new user freezes when kde is loading |
| 16:12.00 | annma | seems your whole system is getting out of hands |
| 16:12.05 | yoruichi | well, gtg, should bbl. see ya |
| 16:12.08 | darkstego | exactly |
| 16:12.16 | PhilRod | well, that'll be the same problem - slow startup of apps -> slow startup of KDE |
| 16:12.37 | darkstego | yesterday the k button would cause kicker to freeze |
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| 16:13.11 | darkstego | if I log off as this user I cannot log on again |
| 16:13.22 | benJIman | maro_: supplementary/kde on any suse mirror |
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| 16:14.12 | oGALAXYo | darkstego: a possible solution would be to uninstall debian kde and re-install its components again. |
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| 16:15.00 | jgaddis | Just enabled sound in my kernel and recompiled. Now when I log in through KDM, I get a large "Volume" box in the center of my screen that I can't get rid of (screenshot: http://www.jeremygaddis.com/images/snapshot1.png). Any suggestions on how to get rid of it? |
| 16:15.39 | darkstego | the only clue I have to go on was that the time was moved back to 2003 for a few days for some unkown reason, could there be some files in my /home with wrong dates that could be messing things up? |
| 16:16.13 | oGALAXYo | darkstego: i thought you said that you even have issues with new user... so the answer is what i wrote above to you. |
| 16:16.14 | darkstego | oGALAXYo, I just resintalled the kdebase today |
| 16:16.23 | oGALAXYo | ahh |
| 16:16.32 | oGALAXYo | darkstego: distro or source ? |
| 16:16.40 | darkstego | distro |
| 16:16.53 | oGALAXYo | ok so your kde is basicly binary only for your distro right ? |
| 16:16.58 | darkstego | oGALAXYo, but the date would be messed up for other user too |
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| 16:17.21 | darkstego | oGALAXYo, yes, there is a source version too |
| 16:17.26 | maro_ | benJIman: thanks :) |
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| 16:17.42 | oGALAXYo | darkstego: maybe you mixed source and binary ? |
| 16:18.49 | darkstego | not likely, I don't even have the source repos listed |
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| 16:19.09 | darkstego | and the command to install from source is totally different |
| 16:19.09 | darkstego | ok |
| 16:19.14 | PhilRod | darkstego: try the KDE_NO_IPV6 thing I suggested, then perhaps try "find ~ | xargs touch -c" to set modification times to something sensible |
| 16:19.14 | darkstego | the new user finally loaded |
| 16:19.17 | oGALAXYo | darkstego: ok try this a) run 'ldconfig' as root, b) check your filesystem, c) fix the clock. |
| 16:19.35 | darkstego | and he has the same problem |
| 16:20.00 | PhilRod | darkstego: right, that tells us that it's not a problem with your ~/.kde or other config files |
| 16:20.02 | superdump | does anyone have any idea why konsole takes ~a quarter a second to redraw the window contents? |
| 16:20.04 | oGALAXYo | d) make sure hdparm set DMA and 32 bit for your disk. |
| 16:20.23 | PhilRod | oGALAXYo: would that really make *that* much difference? |
| 16:20.28 | oGALAXYo | yes |
| 16:20.37 | oGALAXYo | let me explain. |
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| 16:21.00 | oGALAXYo | if you install something new then sometimes the scripts fail ldconfig'ing correctly. so a manual ldconfig as root might help solving that problem too. |
| 16:21.18 | oGALAXYo | the harddisk could have some errors on some sectors preventing the FS from loading stuff.. |
| 16:21.31 | oGALAXYo | so checking the FS for errors could help as well |
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| 16:21.51 | PhilRod | good point |
| 16:21.56 | oGALAXYo | fixing the clock can be an issue too (but in this case probably a minor one).. checking hd for 32bit and UDMA is important because it drastically slows down loading. |
| 16:22.13 | oGALAXYo | another thing i can think of is IRQ issues.. |
| 16:22.19 | ravehanker | Hello, Can any one tell me HOw i configure my mutimedia Keyboard to increase and decrease volume? |
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| 16:22.52 | darkstego | ran ldconfig |
| 16:22.59 | darkstego | fixed clock |
| 16:23.12 | darkstego | now what do you mean by check filesystem? |
| 16:23.22 | oGALAXYo | checking your filesystem for errors. |
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| 16:24.04 | PhilRod | ravehanker: I don't know of an easy way, but with a script and khotkeys, you could hack up a way, if you're willing to spend ~30mins on it |
| 16:24.05 | darkstego | so just a fscheck |
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| 16:24.36 | oGALAXYo | darkstego: yes |
| 16:24.49 | PhilRod | ravehanker: and some KDE info, which I'll find for you if you're interested in trying |
| 16:24.56 | darkstego | I need to reboot for that |
| 16:25.02 | ravehanker | PhilRod:- I'm all ears |
| 16:25.46 | darkstego | also, these symptoms seem to manifest after 5 minutes of using kde |
| 16:25.46 | oGALAXYo | darkstego: yes.. but before doing this try this |
| 16:25.46 | PhilRod | ravehanker: oh wait, I'm being dumb: you can just set the global shortcut in kmix |
| 16:25.53 | ravehanker | PhilRod:- It worked in Gnome by default |
| 16:25.56 | oGALAXYo | hdparm /dev/hda |
| 16:26.07 | ravehanker | PhilRod:- kmix??? |
| 16:26.31 | PhilRod | ravehanker: first, test whether your mm keys are recognised by X: run kmix, go to settings->configure global shortcuts, and there are options to increase/decrease master channel |
| 16:26.53 | darkstego | oGALAXYo, I don't have hdparm |
| 16:26.58 | oGALAXYo | darkstego: hdparm /dev/hda |
| 16:26.59 | oGALAXYo | ahh |
| 16:27.03 | oGALAXYo | darkstego: then install it.. |
| 16:27.04 | PhilRod | if your mm keys are recognised by X, you can just set it there. Make sure kmix is always running when KDE is |
| 16:27.12 | oGALAXYo | darkstego: that explains a lot. |
| 16:27.26 | darkstego | already on it |
| 16:27.26 | ravehanker | PhilRod:- Ok |
| 16:27.47 | darkstego | ok |
| 16:27.48 | oGALAXYo | darkstego: then enter 'hdparm /dev/hda' or which your main hd is. |
| 16:27.48 | darkstego | done |
| 16:27.53 | darkstego | did that |
| 16:28.01 | oGALAXYo | these lines |
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| 16:28.05 | oGALAXYo | IO_support |
| 16:28.08 | oGALAXYo | using_dma |
| 16:28.45 | PhilRod | ravehanker: tell me if it works; it's something of a FAQ |
| 16:28.50 | darkstego | IO_support = 0 (default 16 bit) |
| 16:28.53 | darkstego | no dma line |
| 16:28.54 | oGALAXYo | aha |
| 16:29.02 | oGALAXYo | and thats the problem |
| 16:29.14 | oGALAXYo | change it and your KDE will nuke up in seconds.. |
| 16:29.27 | darkstego | change what now? |
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| 16:30.09 | darkstego | btw, these are SATA disks |
| 16:30.11 | oGALAXYo | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:30.16 | oGALAXYo | ahh |
| 16:30.25 | ravehanker | PhilRod:- Are you asking about the 'Configure Shortcuts' option in Kmixer |
| 16:30.27 | oGALAXYo | but still 16bit sounds wrong to me. |
| 16:30.37 | PhilRod | ravehanker: yup |
| 16:30.41 | ravehanker | PhilRod:- There's no Global Shortcut in Setting |
| 16:30.49 | PhilRod | ravehanker: kde version? |
| 16:31.09 | darkstego | HDIO_SET_32BIT failed: Invalid argument |
| 16:31.19 | oGALAXYo | ah... hum... |
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| 16:32.05 | ravehanker | PhilRod:- 3.3.2 |
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| 16:32.23 | PhilRod | ravehanker: yowsers, that's old :-). I have 3.5 here |
| 16:32.40 | ravehanker | PhilRod:- I'll Upgrade right now :) |
| 16:32.46 | PhilRod | ravehanker: if you don't want to upgrade, you can probably still do it the scripty way |
| 16:32.50 | Casanova | ravehanker: wats the prob? |
| 16:33.16 | PhilRod | <ravehanker> Hello, Can any one tell me HOw i configure my mutimedia Keyboard to increase and decrease volume? |
| 16:33.16 | ravehanker | Casanova:- Multimedia Keys Not working in KDE |
| 16:33.32 | PhilRod | s/not working/not set to do anything/ :-) |
| 16:33.39 | Casanova | ravehanker: the multimedia keys on the keyboard? |
| 16:33.46 | ravehanker | Casanova:- Yes |
| 16:33.49 | Casanova | ah ok |
| 16:34.27 | Casanova | would it be a KDE option? wouldnt it be an option to be set in X? |
| 16:34.28 | ravehanker | PhilRod:- I tried an apt-get upgrade kde, nothing came up |
| 16:34.41 | Casanova | ravehanker: r u on sarge? |
| 16:34.47 | ravehanker | Casanova:- Yup |
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| 16:34.53 | Casanova | ravehanker: use etch |
| 16:34.58 | ravehanker | Casanova:- ok |
| 16:35.09 | darkstego | ok, since most apps have stopped working I will need to reboot to clear everything up |
| 16:35.30 | ravehanker | Casanova:- No etch in my PC |
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| 16:35.45 | Casanova | ravehanker: :-) etch == debian testing |
| 16:36.00 | ravehanker | Casanova:- ?? |
| 16:36.25 | Casanova | ravehanker: the testing branch of debian will have a more recent version of KDE |
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| 16:37.03 | ravehanker | Casanova:- Now, How do i get KDE latest on my system?? |
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| 16:38.06 | Casanova | ravehanker: replace all instances of stable in your /etc/apt/sources.list with testing and do an apt-get update && apt-get upgrade |
| 16:38.07 | elvirolo | hi all |
| 16:38.14 | Casanova | ravehanker: u should probably ask this on #debian |
| 16:38.22 | ravehanker | Casanova:- OK |
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| 16:38.34 | elvirolo | the kde crash manager keeps showing up saying that kded has crashed |
| 16:38.40 | elvirolo | it just never stops |
| 16:38.53 | elvirolo | does anyone know why it's doing that ? |
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| 16:39.27 | PhilRod | because kded is crashing :-). Now, why that is is another question. Possibilities: |
| 16:39.29 | PhilRod | bah |
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| 16:40.37 | bluesceada | hm how can i use konqueror as a web browser with other bookmarks then it has as a file manager and with other home dir it has as a file manager? |
| 16:40.42 | darkstego | rebooted, now everything loads up fine, for about 5 minutes |
| 16:41.17 | PhilRod | bluesceada: don't think you can |
| 16:41.23 | bluesceada | :( |
| 16:41.28 | bluesceada | i want a decent qt browser :S |
| 16:41.29 | oGALAXYo | he can |
| 16:41.45 | parph | isin't opera qt based |
| 16:41.46 | oGALAXYo | bluesceada: you can inport the bookmarks from other homedir. |
| 16:42.15 | bluesceada | argh |
| 16:42.24 | bluesceada | oGALAXYo: that'S not a good solution imo ... |
| 16:42.44 | bluesceada | parph: um right, i dont like it though :S it doesnt use standard qt stuff |
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| 16:43.06 | PhilRod | you could have a webbrowsing profile with bookmarks toolbar, but filemanager profile with no bookmarks toolbar, if that helps |
| 16:43.15 | bluesceada | no :/ |
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| 16:43.46 | Codo2 | Hi everybody... Does anymody know how to configure the sensitivity of the volume buttons on my laptop? for KMix? |
| 16:43.52 | sphex | hey. is there any way to tell KDE to store its HTTP cache elsewhere than /var/tmp? |
| 16:44.24 | PhilRod | sphex: if there is, it's probably listed on this page: |
| 16:44.25 | PhilRod | ~envars |
| 16:44.27 | apt | hmm... envars is http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Environment+Variables |
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| 16:48.54 | jorgp | what is the name of the app or button that you can click on the minimize everything on desktop |
| 16:49.08 | PhilRod | the "show desktop" button |
| 16:49.25 | PhilRod | there's no associated app, though you might be able to do it with dcop |
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| 16:52.32 | jorgp | got it thanks |
| 16:58.19 | sphex | PhilRod: okay, thanks! |
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| 16:58.56 | noteventime | Is there any way to redirect all ALSA audio to arTs? |
| 16:59.20 | PhilRod | you can do it for individual apps with artsdsp |
| 16:59.25 | noteventime | ok |
| 16:59.53 | noteventime | How do i do that? |
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| 17:00.10 | noteventime | I want scummwm to use arts |
| 17:00.50 | PhilRod | artsdsp appname |
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| 17:02.27 | noteventime | just gives my some output and them artsdsp works only for binaries |
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| 17:03.34 | PhilRod | what app did you try? |
| 17:04.05 | noteventime | scummwm |
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| 17:04.44 | PhilRod | is that the name of the binary that's run for scummwm? |
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| 17:05.18 | noteventime | i think so, if it isnt a shell script |
| 17:05.30 | pm | why the newest kde is available for ubuntu only? |
| 17:05.38 | franco | i have a directory that appears to have a red electrical plug in the bottom right corner, what does this mean? |
| 17:06.35 | Sho_ | franco: Good question, I've been wondering that myself |
| 17:06.57 | straw | it's shared, iirc |
| 17:07.02 | franco | Sho_: its only on one directory my audio directory, and other dirs have the exact same perms and no plug |
| 17:07.20 | Sho_ | franco: I have it on my home dir, actually |
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| 17:08.09 | franco | i tried to change the icon of the audio dir to the folder with a loudspeaker on it and it changed, but it still had the plug |
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| 17:08.24 | franco | straw: what is the definition of shared? a link to another home dir? |
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| 17:08.50 | yoruichi | isnt it for mount point? |
| 17:09.13 | yoruichi | i have it in /home and /usr, whis are in separate partitions |
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| 17:09.17 | yoruichi | which* |
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| 17:09.42 | franco | yoruichi: i have my home pc's / on one partition |
| 17:09.51 | PhilRod | is it sticky? can you see anything useful in right click -> properties? |
| 17:09.51 | straw | franco: kuickshow /usr/share/icons/crystalsvg/64x64/actions/share.png |
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| 17:11.44 | yoruichi | my /home and /usr arent shared ;) |
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| 17:12.16 | straw | franco: if you look at Internet & Network -> File Sharing that icon's used there |
| 17:12.25 | franco | straw: $(find /usr/share/icons/crystalsvg) has only two icons per each category |
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| 17:13.47 | greg606 | hi |
| 17:14.08 | straw | beyond that i'm uncertain. share_overlay.png is mentioned i various source files, but i don't see it in the stock crystal icon set |
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| 17:14.45 | straw | s/mentioned i/mentioned in/ |
| 17:15.03 | greg606 | I've got problem with Kopete and mime types (suse 10) anyone has a momement? |
| 17:15.52 | straw | franco: is the dir mounted from a networked drive? |
| 17:15.56 | greg606 | Kopete seems broken, reinstallation doesn't help |
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| 17:16.19 | paulvolk | Hey Guys |
| 17:16.31 | yoruichi | greg606: what about erasing kopete's setting? |
| 17:16.40 | paulvolk | I was wondering where is a good place to download log in screens for KDE? |
| 17:16.44 | greg606 | yoruichi: where? |
| 17:17.04 | greg606 | I can't access it's settings insied the program |
| 17:17.15 | greg606 | I got blank page |
| 17:17.18 | yoruichi | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:17.37 | yoruichi | but you gotta make a backup first |
| 17:18.02 | yoruichi | annma: it's dinner time here ;) |
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| 17:18.15 | greg606 | and now I have this: Could not start process Unable to create io-slave: |
| 17:18.17 | greg606 | klauncher said: Error loading 'kio_media'. |
| 17:19.03 | yoruichi | greg606: can you logout kde and login back? |
| 17:19.09 | greg606 | ok |
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| 17:19.24 | HalNineThousand | I've got a UI question about styles on Debian (KDE 3.5). Anyone here know about how things are packaged? |
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| 17:21.33 | HalNineThousand | I've only got a few avaible styles listed in Control Center and I'd like more, especially RiscOS (which I'm used to), but I can't find what .deb it's packaged in. |
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| 17:23.23 | yoruichi | HalNineThousand: dunno about deb pkgs, but you can always find style in kde-look.org |
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| 17:25.18 | lgsobalvarro | Hello |
| 17:25.51 | yoruichi | hi there lgsobalvarro ;) |
| 17:25.54 | maro_ | wtf, kopete has smooth scrolling |
| 17:25.58 | lgsobalvarro | hi yoruichi |
| 17:26.25 | yoruichi | maro_: yep, and i'm wondering how to disable it |
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| 17:26.58 | maro_ | yoruichi: there's some settings in Appearance |
| 17:27.06 | maro_ | I think it's cool :) |
| 17:27.14 | maro_ | although it'd be more useful in other apps |
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| 17:27.57 | lgsobalvarro | Frost^: i know you? |
| 17:28.12 | yoruichi | maro_: couldnt find anything there |
| 17:28.28 | HalNineThousand | yoruichi: I didn't know about that site -- thanks! |
| 17:28.37 | maro_ | yoruichi: ok :/ |
| 17:28.43 | yoruichi | HalNineThousand: yw |
| 17:29.23 | HalNineThousand | Hmmmm.... RiscOS doesn't get any hits when I search for it. I know it's still in 3.5, since I found it in svn. |
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| 17:31.54 | yoruichi | HalNineThousand: maybe try this? http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=11665 |
| 17:32.05 | yoruichi | and this http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=136 |
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| 17:34.30 | HalNineThousand | yoruichi: Interesting...They have derivatives of the style, but not the style itself. |
| 17:35.01 | HalNineThousand | I thought I had all the styles from the .debs pacakges, but there are so few, there must be a package I'm missing. |
| 17:35.06 | yoruichi | yea, i guess. since i dont know how riscos looked like ;p |
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| 17:36.01 | manu_guitar | AaronCampbell, hi |
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| 17:39.22 | heel3k | what is the definition for a dir to be considered shared? |
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| 17:48.48 | Codo2 | Hi, does anyone knows how to configure the volume buttons for the laptop? |
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| 17:49.04 | Neozon1 | Anyone ever installl moodin? |
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| 17:57.48 | Shootdown | hello |
| 17:58.00 | yoruichi | hi there Shootdown |
| 17:58.27 | Shootdown | can anyone explain this photo: http://s4.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=03C8JM0LYB7G33MLDE849MNIK0 ? |
| 17:58.55 | Shootdown | is the KDE's hidden secret ? |
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| 18:03.18 | straw | heh |
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| 18:04.36 | munzir | Hi sirs, what's the software used to generate graphs like in: http://i18n.kde.org/stats/gui/trunk/ar/index.php please? |
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| 18:05.48 | Shootdown | http://i18n.kde.org/stats/gui/about.html |
| 18:05.48 | zulu42 | hi, I'm not a kde user but an happy amarok meloman, I need to tell kde layer which is my default browser, how can I ? |
| 18:06.22 | Neozon1 | I'd like to know the same thing |
| 18:06.26 | Shootdown | munzir, 'About' is the key |
| 18:06.41 | ponto | zulu42: kcontrol -> kde components |
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| 18:07.45 | Neozon1 | ponto: I changed webbrowser to "in the following browser: firefox" |
| 18:08.08 | Neozon1 | and still no good :( |
| 18:08.11 | zulu42 | I dont have kcontrol, should I install it? as said before I try not to have to much kde on my little box is there a conf file somewhere? |
| 18:09.01 | ponto | Btw, why does one need a browser with amarok? |
| 18:09.25 | zulu42 | help |
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| 18:09.32 | zulu42 | and media description |
| 18:09.49 | yoruichi | zulu42: i think it's in amarok's settings (the web browser) |
| 18:10.11 | zulu42 | yoruichi, I read a re-read the amarok option but did not find it :( |
| 18:10.16 | yoruichi | general > external web browser |
| 18:10.20 | zulu42 | ?? |
| 18:10.55 | yoruichi | zulu42: you want to set browser for amarok, right? |
| 18:11.15 | zulu42 | yes |
| 18:11.26 | zulu42 | I dont have that in my general, I'm using 1.3.8 |
| 18:11.55 | yoruichi | ah |
| 18:12.04 | yoruichi | i have 1.4 (svn) |
| 18:12.11 | zulu42 | :) |
| 18:12.20 | yoruichi | it's in settings > configure amarok > general > external web browser |
| 18:12.22 | zulu42 | I have a debian package |
| 18:12.38 | zulu42 | I will w8 for the 1.4 package :) |
| 18:12.43 | yoruichi | maybe you can try building amarok svn? ;) |
| 18:12.52 | yoruichi | it's stable here |
| 18:12.53 | zulu42 | no time for that :) |
| 18:12.56 | yoruichi | k |
| 18:13.07 | sphex | hey. anyone else noticed google maps appear to work fine with konqueror now? |
| 18:13.07 | zulu42 | I will install kcontrol |
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| 18:13.14 | sphex | this is new AFAIK... |
| 18:13.19 | yoruichi | sphex: yep |
| 18:13.45 | Neozon1 | I still dunno how to change it to default in kcontrol -_- |
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| 18:15.12 | Neozon1 | *from default |
| 18:15.55 | Neozon1 | www.google.ca |
| 18:16.01 | Neozon1 | damn it |
| 18:16.03 | Neozon1 | still doesnt work |
| 18:16.04 | Neozon1 | >_< |
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| 18:17.51 | bluesceada | Neozon1: one mom ;) |
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| 18:18.18 | bluesceada | Neozon1: still there? |
| 18:18.19 | Neozon1 | one mom? |
| 18:18.20 | Neozon1 | yea |
| 18:18.30 | bluesceada | go to kcontrol > component chooser |
| 18:18.36 | Neozon1 | k |
| 18:18.37 | bluesceada | then web browser |
| 18:18.39 | bluesceada | and put firefox there |
| 18:18.45 | bluesceada | press apply .. |
| 18:18.46 | bluesceada | ;) |
| 18:19.06 | Neozon1 | I did that |
| 18:19.10 | bluesceada | in what kind of situation does it not work? maybe you have to set it in the app |
| 18:19.24 | Neozon1 | "Unable to open url" |
| 18:19.52 | Neozon1 | The "Manual" browser command has been chosen, but no command has been set. |
| 18:19.54 | justme | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:20.30 | bluesceada | Neozon1: umm , you just put "firefox" there? |
| 18:20.35 | Neozon1 | in quotes? |
| 18:20.39 | bluesceada | ehm NO |
| 18:20.45 | Neozon1 | k |
| 18:20.47 | bluesceada | but depends on what version you have it could be firefox-bin |
| 18:20.50 | Neozon1 | then yes I did put "firefox" |
| 18:20.50 | bluesceada | check on a terminal .. |
| 18:21.13 | bluesceada | open konsole an write "firef" there and press tab and you'll see ... |
| 18:21.14 | Neozon1 | I ran "firefox" in console and it worked fine |
| 18:21.18 | bluesceada | ah ,.. hmm |
| 18:21.21 | bluesceada | bad :/ |
| 18:21.30 | Neozon1 | its really annoying to |
| 18:21.44 | Neozon1 | any 3rd party programs that post links I have to manually copy and paste! |
| 18:22.11 | bluesceada | uh |
| 18:22.15 | yoruichi | Neozon1: maybe you have to put the absoulte path? |
| 18:22.18 | bluesceada | 3rd partyy??? |
| 18:22.25 | bluesceada | yoruichi: that isnt it ;) |
| 18:22.32 | Neozon1 | bluesceada: any program other then firefox it self |
| 18:22.35 | bluesceada | Neozon1: maybe you mean gtk/gnome .. then go in the firefox settings |
| 18:22.47 | Neozon1 | gtk? |
| 18:22.49 | bluesceada | and press "check now" at the default browser option |
| 18:22.51 | yoruichi | ah :P |
| 18:22.57 | bluesceada | gimp tool kit |
| 18:22.57 | Neozon1 | bluesceada: how to i get to gtk? |
| 18:23.06 | bluesceada | Neozon1: ehm you missunderstood me |
| 18:23.13 | bluesceada | Neozon1: just go to firefox to the settings |
| 18:23.23 | Neozon1 | I tried that once |
| 18:23.24 | Neozon1 | still no luck |
| 18:23.28 | bluesceada | in the "general" tab press "chek now" |
| 18:23.30 | bluesceada | ah .. :/ |
| 18:23.35 | bluesceada | what kind of app does it not work |
| 18:23.39 | bluesceada | say something specific |
| 18:23.42 | bluesceada | licq? |
| 18:24.00 | Neozon1 | gaim |
| 18:24.02 | Neozon1 | like in here |
| 18:24.04 | bluesceada | ah that's gnome |
| 18:24.12 | bluesceada | then the "check now" thing should do allright |
| 18:24.16 | bluesceada | or look in the gaim settings |
| 18:24.27 | bluesceada | some programs have their own settings |
| 18:24.37 | bluesceada | btw .. use licq or kopete ;) |
| 18:24.52 | bluesceada | imo ^^ |
| 18:24.57 | Neozon1 | I love you |
| 18:25.11 | Neozon1 | www.blueseceadarocks!!.com |
| 18:25.17 | Neozon1 | yes!! |
| 18:25.17 | Neozon1 | :D |
| 18:25.28 | bluesceada | lol |
| 18:25.32 | Neozon1 | Gaim has browser option itself :D |
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| 18:26.07 | bluesceada | good |
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| 18:28.09 | chino[lap] | kde doens't need lisa anymore ? |
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| 18:30.01 | bluesceada | chino[lap]: zeroconf now or so .. dunno |
| 18:30.05 | bluesceada | i never had lisa running |
| 18:30.19 | chino[lap] | yea but something is being wierd |
| 18:30.28 | tambu | hrm.. just installed kde 3.5 on my laptop.. it starts up I see the blue kde splashscreen it gets to Integrated periphrials and .. a weird partial window pops up it doesn't full form just shows a white box with File Edit, etc and then kde locks up.. my mouse will still move on the screen but it's frozen ctrl-alt f1 doesn't work ctrl-alt-bkspc either. Any thoughts? |
| 18:30.39 | chino[lap] | on windows i can login to my samba server and see my home dirctory but from my linux laptop its showing me nothing |
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| 18:31.09 | bluesceada | chino[lap]: probably your linux samba isnt configured good |
| 18:31.15 | bluesceada | for me it works |
| 18:31.29 | bluesceada | i've zeroconf though, dunno if that helps at all |
| 18:31.29 | TeaSea | Samba is crazy here. |
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| 18:31.39 | bluesceada | i have it in shared mode |
| 18:31.42 | TeaSea | I'm on a uni network which is primarily windows. |
| 18:32.00 | bluesceada | stop studying there ! EWW ;) |
| 18:32.09 | TeaSea | So I need to use samba to connect to my remote folders. If I use smbclient it works fine, but trying to mount errors up |
| 18:32.17 | TeaSea | bluesceada: >( |
| 18:32.17 | DracoDan | jesus, how long does kde take to compile? (athlon 1700+, 512MB) |
| 18:32.31 | yoruichi | DracoDan: full kde? |
| 18:32.31 | TeaSea | That's the only problem I have with the uni. |
| 18:32.37 | DracoDan | yeah |
| 18:32.40 | TeaSea | It's also why I do all my java practicals on my computer. |
| 18:32.48 | TeaSea | Then I just need to go on and submit it, minimal windows contact. |
| 18:32.49 | tambu | DracoDan: I have 1600 1gig of ram it took 599mins 10 seconds |
| 18:32.49 | bluesceada | DracoDan: you should use unsermake and kdeenablefinal flag .. |
| 18:32.52 | DracoDan | im building from ports (freebsd) |
| 18:32.55 | yoruichi | more than a day i guess ;) |
| 18:32.56 | bluesceada | wait .. kdeenablefinal makes it slower |
| 18:33.13 | bluesceada | dunno how it is really called as a configure option |
| 18:33.14 | yoruichi | bluesceada: makes kde use more ram |
| 18:33.23 | paulvolk | can anyone tell me how to change the login theme on KDE? |
| 18:33.24 | bluesceada | yoruichi: compiling, but not in the end, right? |
| 18:33.26 | paulvolk | can anyone tell me how to change the login theme on KDE? |
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| 18:33.37 | bluesceada | paulvolk: kdmtheme plugin.. |
| 18:33.43 | bluesceada | it can use gdm themes |
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| 18:33.53 | yoruichi | faster in compiling, but use more ram in the end |
| 18:33.56 | paulvolk | where do I get that? |
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| 18:34.06 | litb | kde-apps.org |
| 18:34.08 | bluesceada | yoruichi: o.O X.x |
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| 18:34.36 | yoruichi | bluesceada: is that a crown? :P |
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| 18:34.52 | paulvolk | where would I get that plugin? |
| 18:35.14 | yoruichi | paulvolk: kdm themes are in kde-look |
| 18:35.38 | tambu | no thoughts on my problem? where can I find a kde.log file to look at? I don't see it under /var/log |
| 18:35.51 | bluesceada | yoruichi: it's like i thought otherwise .. oh no |
| 18:36.06 | paulvolk | I know that And I have downloaded some |
| 18:36.13 | paulvolk | it won't work though |
| 18:36.26 | paulvolk | I don't know how to change the login theme |
| 18:36.43 | yoruichi | paulvolk: have you extract the theme to kdm dir? |
| 18:36.55 | paulvolk | where is that located? |
| 18:37.06 | yoruichi | mine is /usr/kde/3.5/share/apps/kdm/themes/ |
| 18:37.27 | paulvolk | ok then what do I do to configuer what login to use? |
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| 18:38.21 | yoruichi | you have to set 'UseTheme=true' and Theme=/usr/kde/3.5/share/apps/kdm/themes/<your theme> in /usr/kde/3.5/share/config/kdm/kdmrc |
| 18:38.36 | paulvolk | ok |
| 18:38.46 | yoruichi | the kdmrc location might be differ on your system |
| 18:39.19 | yoruichi | just search for it, and edit those two line |
| 18:39.26 | paulvolk | ok |
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| 18:40.05 | yoruichi | and you have to restart kdm service before you can use that theme |
| 18:40.17 | paulvolk | ok |
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| 18:46.59 | biello | hello world!! |
| 18:47.26 | yoruichi | hi biello |
| 18:47.37 | heel3k | biello: you are the first person to publish the hellow world program in irc syntax |
| 18:47.38 | fek | a php script? |
| 18:47.46 | fek | heel3k: hrhr |
| 18:47.49 | biello | i want some features that are in kdemultimedia package.. for example, when I right-click a mp3 file, with kdemultimedia, i got a description of the mp3 |
| 18:47.57 | biello | what files implements this feature? |
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| 18:48.54 | biello | heel3k: :-D |
| 18:49.19 | HuntsMan | biello: the kfile plugins |
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| 18:49.35 | Skrot | Is it just me or did KDE 3.5.1 do some heavy optimizing? |
| 18:50.33 | yoruichi | Skrot: for example? |
| 18:50.37 | Skrot | Running kde with konvi, kopete, konqi, kontact running in the background and I've got 0.1 - 0.11 load average |
| 18:51.13 | Skrot | Compared to 1.0-2.0 with 3.5.0 |
| 18:51.36 | yoruichi | wow |
| 18:51.47 | Skrot | 0.03 now.. insane |
| 18:51.54 | biello | HuntsMan: thanks a lot ;-) |
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| 18:52.49 | Crissi | i have a small problem with KKeyDialog::configure( actionCollection(), this ); |
| 18:52.54 | Crissi | if i call the dialog i see the entries from toolbar and menu... so some entries duplicated |
| 18:52.58 | Crissi | how to fix it? |
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| 18:59.05 | sredna | Crissi: Don't have duplicated actions |
| 18:59.28 | sredna | Crissi: One action can be displayed in both toolbar and menubar |
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| 19:00.12 | Crissi | yes.. should be |
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| 19:00.28 | Crissi | i only create each action one time |
| 19:00.53 | Crissi | but in uirc i have in toolbar and menu |
| 19:01.28 | SAngeli | anyone knows how to remove from kontact the left side bar with the buttons showing Summary, Mail, Calendar, ...? |
| 19:01.35 | sredna | Crissi: In that case there should be no duplicates in the key dialog |
| 19:01.49 | Crissi | hm.. strange |
| 19:02.04 | HuntsMan | SAngeli: preferences / Select components |
| 19:02.45 | sredna | Crissi: Which KDE version? |
| 19:02.52 | SAngeli | HuntsMan: preferences from where do I get this? |
| 19:03.02 | HuntsMan | from Kontact |
| 19:03.04 | SAngeli | from Settings perhaps? |
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| 19:03.33 | Crissi | sredna: kde 3.5.1 |
| 19:03.39 | Crissi | sredna: http://pastebin.com/527671 |
| 19:03.53 | HuntsMan | SAngeli: ah yeah, Settings Menu |
| 19:04.03 | Crissi | thats the place where i configure the actions |
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| 19:06.11 | sredna | Crissi: But that isn't really relevant |
| 19:06.14 | SAngeli | HuntsMan: I noticed that if I remove all components from Settings, I do not get anything at all. What I wish is to still get Mail, Mail, Calendar but I do not wish to see the left side bar. Is this possible? |
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| 19:06.51 | Crissi | sredna: do uirc you want to see the uirc? |
| 19:06.54 | sredna | Crissi: If you have multiple entries for the same action in the shortcut dialog, you must examine your actioncollection |
| 19:07.08 | sredna | Crissi: The uirc file isn't relevant either afaik |
| 19:07.10 | Crissi | yes |
| 19:07.32 | Crissi | i try that but actionCollection().actions() wont work |
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| 19:07.48 | sredna | ActionCollection() returns a pointer |
| 19:07.50 | Mazingaro | hi |
| 19:07.53 | sredna | Ho |
| 19:07.54 | Crissi | yes |
| 19:07.56 | Mazingaro | please I need help on k3b |
| 19:08.07 | Mazingaro | I need help with k3b: I cannot write iso images on DVD (Data does not fit on disk) even if image file is less than 4GB |
| 19:10.31 | Crissi | sredna: KActionPtrList ::actions () is virtaul :( |
| 19:10.34 | Crissi | virtual |
| 19:11.08 | Crissi | i think there is a funtion missing: KActionPtrList::removeDuplicateEntries() |
| 19:11.55 | sredna | Crissi: There shouldn't be any duplicate actions unless you create them |
| 19:12.33 | Crissi | i only create them how you could see at http://pastebin.com/527671 |
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| 19:14.29 | sredna | Crissi: Maybe someone in #kde-devel can help you |
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| 19:15.01 | Crissi | i had ask there,,, nobody alive... |
| 19:15.06 | Rebecca | hello peoples :) |
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| 19:17.30 | Rebecca | hey. i tried to update my kde system. but encounted a dependency problem: |
| 19:17.31 | Rebecca | dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_4%3a3.5.0-3_all.deb (--unpack): |
| 19:17.31 | Rebecca | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:18.58 | Crissi | apt-get remove libdjvulibre15 |
| 19:19.44 | Rebecca | http://erxz.com/pb/476 <- more detailed errors |
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| 19:19.56 | Rebecca | i dont think that will be allowed, but ill try again |
| 19:20.26 | yoruichi | where does kde put its color schemes for global user? |
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| 19:21.32 | Rebecca | Crissi: http://erxz.com/pb/477 |
| 19:21.36 | Rebecca | didnt work either |
| 19:21.43 | Rebecca | hmmmm |
| 19:21.51 | Rebecca | this has really messed up my kde |
| 19:21.56 | Crissi | apt-get -f install |
| 19:22.05 | Rebecca | the standard kde open file dialog is broken |
| 19:22.12 | Crissi | you need that done first |
| 19:22.16 | Rebecca | and konsole randomly dies |
| 19:22.26 | Rebecca | ive done that already. ill show you the output |
| 19:22.35 | Rebecca | s/dies/freezes |
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| 19:30.02 | kendrick | apt-get dist-upgrade ? |
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| 19:44.42 | kendrick | Rebecca: ping |
| 19:44.59 | Rebecca | pong |
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| 19:45.17 | kendrick | still having trouble upgrading? |
| 19:45.22 | Rebecca | kendrick: sorry, Crissi was helping me |
| 19:45.29 | kendrick | oh ok np |
| 19:45.39 | kendrick | i'm heading out in a bit... didn't wanna offer help and then vanish :) |
| 19:45.41 | kendrick | so... good luck! :) |
| 19:45.47 | Rebecca | do i need to restart kde after updating it? |
| 19:45.56 | Rebecca | ok, seeya |
| 19:46.00 | annma | it's better |
| 19:46.01 | kendrick | i've done that in the past |
| 19:46.06 | kendrick | just in case libs get upgraded |
| 19:46.14 | kendrick | plus, i always hope that arts won't suck |
| 19:46.14 | Rebecca | ok, ill try that |
| 19:46.17 | kendrick | but it never doesn't suck :) |
| 19:46.20 | Rebecca | restarting x should suffice right? |
| 19:46.28 | annma | yes, no need to reboot |
| 19:46.30 | kendrick | yeah |
| 19:46.38 | Rebecca | cool bananas :) |
| 19:46.45 | kendrick | logout, then ctrl+alt+bkspc to kill X and restart KDM |
| 19:46.58 | kendrick | or /etc/init.d/kdm restart as root :) |
| 19:47.01 | kendrick | ... is how i do it |
| 19:47.11 | Rebecca | brb |
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| 19:48.46 | ConfuziuS | Can someone tell me how I can delete the Disc Icon from my KDE Desktop? |
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| 19:49.11 | annma | right click onit and delete? |
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| 19:49.41 | ConfuziuS | no that dosen't work ;-) |
| 19:49.42 | StAnLeY^ | hey, when is kde 3.5.1 going to be released ? |
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| 19:49.49 | annma | ConfuziuS: why? |
| 19:49.55 | annma | StAnLeY^: soon! |
| 19:50.02 | ConfuziuS | i want a clar Desktop like fluxbox |
| 19:50.09 | ConfuziuS | sry i mean claer |
| 19:50.21 | StAnLeY^ | annma: yeah, I know that already :) |
| 19:50.30 | ConfuziuS | :)# |
| 19:50.39 | annma | StAnLeY^: do you want the day and the hour? |
| 19:50.44 | annma | ConfuziuS: ? |
| 19:50.54 | StAnLeY^ | annma: just the day please :) |
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| 19:51.13 | annma | ConfuziuS: hide all icons |
| 19:51.26 | ConfuziuS | how? |
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| 19:51.34 | annma | right click -> configure destop |
| 19:51.43 | kuja | Is there like a kderc I could make? |
| 19:51.45 | ConfuziuS | brb |
| 19:51.51 | annma | behaviour |
| 19:51.56 | annma | uncheck Show icons |
| 19:52.00 | annma | that's how |
| 19:52.29 | annma | StAnLeY^: do you know that nobody can never tell the exact day of a release? |
| 19:52.36 | Rebecca | argh damn it... how come every time i update kde.. even minorly, my gui changes :/ |
| 19:52.47 | StAnLeY^ | annma: nope, I thought they were fixed |
| 19:52.53 | annma | StAnLeY^: lol |
| 19:52.54 | ConfuziuS | @anma: there is no funktion like you tell me ... |
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| 19:53.02 | annma | ConfuziuS: no? |
| 19:53.06 | ConfuziuS | no... |
| 19:53.10 | annma | what oldish kde doyou have then? |
| 19:53.23 | annma | StAnLeY^: no they are not fixed at all |
| 19:53.35 | ConfuziuS | 3.5.0 Fedora Core 4 engine :-) |
| 19:53.36 | straw | Rebecca: at the top of every KDE dev's TODO list - "Piss off Rebecca" ;) |
| 19:53.47 | annma | Rebecca: when yu update that means KDE has been changed |
| 19:53.49 | kendrick | ControlCenter->Desktop->Behavior->General{tab}->Show icons on desktop{checkbox} |
| 19:53.53 | StAnLeY^ | annma: okay then, thanks :) |
| 19:53.56 | Z_God | I've got a problem with the nfs KIO slave |
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| 19:54.13 | Z_God | it doesn't work for some server, while plain mounting does work |
| 19:54.33 | Z_God | I get a permission denied error or does not exist error in those cases |
| 19:54.36 | annma | ConfuziuS: make a screenshot of your Configure Desktop -> Behaviour -> general dialog please |
| 19:54.42 | Z_God | while another server works fine |
| 19:54.53 | straw | StAnLeY^: tag dates are targeted. beyond that its a crap shoot like anything else |
| 19:55.08 | ConfuziuS | @ kendrick - special thx for you ... that work :) thx ... |
| 19:55.22 | kendrick | :) |
| 19:55.24 | annma | ConfuziuS: hmm, I said it before |
| 19:55.29 | kendrick | crazy iconless people! |
| 19:55.33 | kendrick | my wife's the same way ;) |
| 19:55.41 | StAnLeY^ | straw: yes, I got the illusion that the release is made a few days after the tag date |
| 19:55.54 | kendrick | annma: i think ConfuziuS just didn't get told _precisely_ where the option was ;) |
| 19:55.55 | annma | the tags are often spead on several days |
| 19:55.58 | ConfuziuS | you say: "right click -> configure destop" |
| 19:56.06 | straw | StAnLeY^: sometimes... |
| 19:56.06 | annma | ConfuziuS: I added the rest |
| 19:56.07 | kendrick | KDE is kinda like those B52 bombers from Bugs Bunny cartoons |
| 19:56.12 | kendrick | a wall of knobs and buttons ;) |
| 19:56.29 | ConfuziuS | hehehe |
| 19:56.29 | annma | [14:51:28] <ConfuziuS> brb |
| 19:56.29 | annma | [14:51:34] <annma> behaviour |
| 19:56.29 | annma | [14:51:39] <annma> uncheck Show icons |
| 19:56.38 | Rebecca | ill show you a before and after screen shot |
| 19:57.00 | annma | Rebecca: what version did you upgrade from? and to what version? |
| 19:57.02 | Rebecca | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v414/beccasfotos/mydesktopnow.jpg |
| 19:57.06 | Crissi | kendrick: you can configure kde how you like.. for example like twm :-P |
| 19:57.08 | Rebecca | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v414/beccasfotos/mmm_purple.png |
| 19:57.17 | kendrick | Crissi: oh, no, i know. :) |
| 19:57.23 | kendrick | i _like_ KDE for that |
| 19:57.34 | kendrick | but when trying to explain where something is, i usually need KDE in front of me :) |
| 19:57.38 | Rebecca | mmm_purple.png was the original |
| 19:57.47 | kendrick | which is why i can rarely answer KDE questions from work (where I use Windows >X^P Professional) |
| 19:58.15 | Rebecca | annma: 3.5.? to 3.5.? (sorry) |
| 19:58.30 | Crissi | its interesting that someone use kde2 window decoration like me :) |
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| 19:58.40 | kendrick | Rebecca: the big diff i see is the taskbar in kicker is using the 'new' theme |
| 19:58.48 | Crissi | i also use kde1 taskbar style ;) |
| 19:59.25 | annma | why is there firefox to demonstrate KDE? |
| 19:59.31 | kendrick | hehe |
| 19:59.35 | kendrick | i was thinking about ffox today |
| 19:59.44 | kendrick | loving how akregator is so well-integrated w/ the rest of my desktop |
| 19:59.50 | kendrick | and i'm glad that i use konq instead of ffox :) |
| 20:00.04 | kendrick | (i think about these kinds of issues when i'm in the shower, i suppose) |
| 20:00.19 | Rebecca | kendrick: they have removed way too many gui elements. it's not clear where bits begin and end now :/ |
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| 20:01.26 | Sho_ | Rebecca: The handles show up on hover |
| 20:01.27 | kendrick | i see that the little "<" arrows in the panel are no longer the cool blue |
| 20:01.36 | _root | !nvidia |
| 20:01.38 | Sho_ | Rebecca: That behavior was available in 3.4 too, they just changed the default |
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| 20:01.53 | kendrick | and the "^" arrow to the left of the taskbar is much larger |
| 20:01.56 | Rebecca | i am acustomed to 'fixing' my gui settings after updates. ive used the same look for kde for a long time now.. but it would be nice if i didnt have to ferret around... that's all |
| 20:02.19 | kendrick | and the taskbar entries are less obvious. that damned new kicker theme i don't like. ;) |
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| 20:03.02 | Crissi | http://crissi.linux-administrator.com/shot_crissi_200601282100.png <= thats current |
| 20:03.05 | kendrick | ok, friends are about to arrive! |
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| 20:03.08 | Rebecca | any tips on how i get it back to 'normal'? |
| 20:03.23 | kendrick | agh! my eyes! |
| 20:03.33 | kendrick | ;) |
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| 20:03.38 | kendrick | Rebecca: the taskbar? |
| 20:03.39 | kendrick | or... |
| 20:03.45 | Rebecca | yeah |
| 20:03.49 | kendrick | if taskbar, then go to taskbar's config (e.g., right-click it) |
| 20:03.53 | kendrick | then select themes and pick classic |
| 20:03.53 | ConfuziuS | my Desktop... http://www.confu.de/images/kde.jpg |
| 20:03.54 | kendrick | doorbell! |
| 20:03.54 | kendrick | cya! |
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| 20:05.55 | ConfuziuS | cya... |
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| 20:06.01 | Rebecca | hmm.. i cant find where to select classic themes... |
| 20:06.27 | Rebecca | oh, there it is :D |
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| 20:10.31 | kuja | Is there like a file KDE attempts to execute while it starts? Kind of for GNOME you've got .gnomerc |
| 20:10.49 | Rebecca | ok, this is a stupid question.. but what is the name of the up arrow bit that is next to the task bar? |
| 20:11.04 | Rebecca | when clicked it shows a list of all apps running on all desktops |
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| 20:12.22 | fredrikh | Rebecca: that's the "Window list button" |
| 20:12.34 | Rebecca | ahh, thankyou |
| 20:13.01 | StevenR | kuja: to do what? |
| 20:13.24 | kuja | To set my locale, load my Korean input module, to load my nvidia-settings |
| 20:13.44 | StevenR | kuja: write a script and put it in ~/.kde/Autostart |
| 20:14.12 | Blissex | kuja: depends on what you mean by that, but there are _several_. |
| 20:14.23 | kuja | Well, GNOME has .gnomerc, see? |
| 20:14.28 | kuja | X has .xinitrc |
| 20:14.34 | Blissex | kuja: and you should use a non KDE/GNOME specific startup file. |
| 20:14.52 | kuja | Right, I should. I stuck all the stuff in .xinitrc :P |
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| 20:14.56 | Blissex | kuja: for that kind of stuff at least. Investigate the mysteries of '~/.xsession' |
| 20:15.10 | kuja | For some odd reason... my input module doesn't load... |
| 20:15.29 | kuja | I could manually start it from a terminal in the background... yet it lasts as long as the terminal does... odd |
| 20:15.36 | Blissex | kuja: '.xinitrc' and '.xsession' are executed in different circumstances.... Check both out |
| 20:16.30 | kuja | Alright, thanks. |
| 20:16.55 | kuja | Hm, I see where you're going with this... -_- |
| 20:17.03 | kuja | KDE or GNOME both start sessions |
| 20:17.10 | kuja | So .xsession would be more suited |
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| 20:18.24 | Rebecca | is there an easy way to determine which icon is being used for the kmenu? |
| 20:19.47 | sredna | Rebecca: Kmenu.png from your icon theme in the size matching your panel size |
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| 20:20.33 | Rebecca | sredna: ok |
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| 20:23.11 | Rebecca | sredna: happen to know what icon size is used for a 53pixel panel? ;) |
| 20:23.26 | sredna | Rebecca: My guess is 48px |
| 20:23.34 | Rebecca | k |
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| 20:23.53 | grave | hi there |
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| 20:24.46 | GraveDigger | i have a question about dekorator: it doesnt really work |
| 20:24.58 | GraveDigger | that means, the borders are not displayed transparently |
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| 20:25.54 | Rebecca | oh, this is probably a silly question.. i use konsole and tabbing through history by pressing up is really handy. but when i reboot all konsole windows revert to the same history.. is there a way to make individual konsole session histories persistant over reboots? |
| 20:26.06 | GraveDigger | that then looks like this: http://img495.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dekorator14fs.jpg |
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| 20:26.13 | visik7 | Rebecca: it's a bash issue not a konsole issue |
| 20:26.30 | Rebecca | visik7: okay :) |
| 20:26.46 | sredna | Rebecca: No, but I think it is a common wish - I would like that too |
| 20:27.06 | Rebecca | sredna: hehe. i didnt think i would be alone ;) |
| 20:27.08 | visik7 | Rebecca: look for history across multiple bash session |
| 20:27.17 | sredna | Rebecca: A good tip is to use ctrl + r to do reverse search in your command history |
| 20:27.47 | sredna | visik7: Look where then? |
| 20:27.48 | Rebecca | im quite used to doing a: history | grep foo |
| 20:27.54 | visik7 | sredna: google ? |
| 20:27.57 | NeverDream | in KDE 3.4, is there a way I can have (in the Regional & Accessibility control) tehe US and US_intl layouts? |
| 20:28.07 | sredna | ~google bash session history |
| 20:28.33 | visik7 | ~google history across multiple bash session |
| 20:28.53 | sredna | Yea, but then apt doesn't seem to want to do that... |
| 20:29.33 | sredna | NeverDream: Just add them both to your list, and you should get a icon in the systray to switch |
| 20:29.52 | NeverDream | it won't let me add 2 US layouts :/ |
| 20:32.43 | NeverDream | any ideas how I can get 2 US layouts? |
| 20:33.56 | welp | anyone know how i can unmask all the kde-base stuff in gentoo so i can emerge 3.5? |
| 20:34.05 | annma | NeverDream: are those layout listed as different in the list? |
| 20:34.21 | NeverDream | annma, no |
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| 20:34.42 | NeverDream | there's US then you select basic or intl from a drop-down list |
| 20:34.55 | annma | NeverDream: so it's not possible directly |
| 20:35.02 | sredna | Ah, it's a variant |
| 20:35.04 | annma | you have to call the other layout from a script |
| 20:35.11 | sredna | Then it is not possible, unfortunately |
| 20:35.20 | NeverDream | :/ |
| 20:35.41 | annma | it's possible to call it from command |
| 20:36.14 | NeverDream | I tired to set it up so it'd switch with KHotKeys, but it wouldn't work |
| 20:36.22 | NeverDream | s/tired/tried/ |
| 20:36.45 | NeverDream | that's a nice feature... |
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| 20:39.57 | kuja | Hm, like there is a GTK-Qt, is there a reverse, where I can make Qt apps look GTK? |
| 20:40.30 | annma | why would you want to do that really? |
| 20:40.35 | Rebecca | is it possible to force KDE to reload it's icon cache? |
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| 20:40.59 | kuja | annma: Aesthetics |
| 20:41.04 | annma | lol |
| 20:41.06 | annma | wow |
| 20:41.13 | kuja | I find GTK more pleasing, that's all. |
| 20:41.23 | NeverDream | me too, usually |
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| 20:43.05 | LiteHedded | how do i set the default web browser? |
| 20:43.32 | kuja | annma: No clue? |
| 20:43.37 | Rebecca | anyone? |
| 20:44.01 | litb | kuja: try metatheme |
| 20:44.05 | litb | it's better |
| 20:44.10 | kuja | metatheme? |
| 20:44.10 | annma | kuja: what do you exactly mean? make all kde look like GTK? or only a Qt app in a gnome desktop? |
| 20:44.22 | kuja | annma: Qt apps in a GNOME desktop |
| 20:44.28 | LiteHedded | anyone? |
| 20:44.39 | annma | LiteHedded: in KControl |
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| 20:44.51 | straw | Rebecca: hm, change something in kcontrol's icon area and change it back, then apply? *shrug* |
| 20:44.51 | LiteHedded | where in kcontrol. I must be dense I'm not seeing it |
| 20:45.15 | annma | what kde version? |
| 20:45.19 | LiteHedded | 3.5 |
| 20:45.19 | annma | I have kde 3.5 here |
| 20:45.21 | annma | ok |
| 20:45.44 | annma | KDE Components -> Components Chooser |
| 20:45.52 | annma | web browser in the list |
| 20:46.06 | LiteHedded | ok i just upgraded to 3.5 lemme restart kde and check |
| 20:46.07 | LiteHedded | thanks |
| 20:46.07 | annma | that will set your browser globally for all KDE app |
| 20:46.14 | annma | s |
| 20:46.16 | litb | some people hav kde3.5.1 already where do they have it? |
| 20:46.19 | litb | from? |
| 20:46.36 | straw | litb: their distro, likely |
| 20:47.25 | kuja | litb: Looks good, thanks. |
| 20:47.28 | annma | maybe ftp.kde.org |
| 20:47.41 | annma | litb: the packages are being made currently |
| 20:47.46 | annma | maybe some were uploaded |
| 20:48.06 | annma | i also have it from kde svn :))) |
| 20:48.07 | litb | annma: is svn ready for install? |
| 20:48.19 | kuja | litb: Will this only theme applications or components as well? Like a KDE taskbar or a GNOME panel |
| 20:48.20 | annma | what do you mean? |
| 20:48.24 | Rebecca | straw: cool, thanks, i didnt think of that :) |
| 20:48.35 | litb | only theme it |
| 20:48.42 | litb | and change the behaivor a bit afaik |
| 20:48.45 | kuja | Fair enough |
| 20:48.56 | litb | like swap buttons ok and cancel on gtk |
| 20:49.25 | annma | litb: kde svn 3.5 branches is always OK |
| 20:50.06 | straw | no 3.5.1 directory on the ftp yet |
| 20:50.53 | straw | seems kubuntu has packages today, though |
| 20:51.08 | litb | annma: i mean whether kde3.5.1 tag is said to not change until official kde3.5.1 release |
| 20:51.09 | GraveDigger | damnit |
| 20:51.13 | GraveDigger | is kde-look.org down? |
| 20:51.21 | Skrot | straw: dapper has 3.5.1 |
| 20:51.32 | straw | ok... |
| 20:51.32 | Skrot | straw: I started using it yesterday |
| 20:51.32 | GraveDigger | im always getting some ugly error, that the content was not found on the server |
| 20:51.38 | annma | litb: if the tarballs are not released yet on ftp.kde.org then I cannot say |
| 20:51.43 | Rebecca | is it possible to lock the kde panels? ive found they are sensitive to stray clicks sending them to the side of my desktop |
| 20:51.53 | annma | litb: you have to wait official announcement |
| 20:52.07 | Rebecca | oh, ignore that question |
| 20:52.23 | litb | annma: hm, then i should probably think about installing kde 3.5 branch over /opt/kde3 ... |
| 20:52.37 | annma | if you need it, yes |
| 20:52.44 | annma | Rebecca: ;) |
| 20:53.06 | Rebecca | btw: i really like this KDE. seems faster and lets me do a few things i wasnt previously able to do. well done devs :) |
| 20:53.46 | Blissex | Rebecca: «seems faster» is a bit of an illusion :-) |
| 20:53.53 | annma | no no |
| 20:53.55 | straw | heh. an hour ago you were bitching and moaning, Rebecca ;) |
| 20:54.00 | annma | thanks Rebecca |
| 20:54.16 | annma | well she? is fair at least |
| 20:54.20 | Blissex | Rebecca: howewer you might find some relief in my ''make KDE faster'' advice... |
| 20:54.23 | annma | so I guess she is a she |
| 20:54.32 | GraveDigger | is kde-look.org down? |
| 20:54.33 | GraveDigger | im always getting some ugly error, that the content was not found on the server |
| 20:54.34 | straw | did it grow on you that quickly? :) |
| 20:54.52 | Skrot | look is up, GraveDigger |
| 20:54.54 | Rebecca | straw: i dont like change.. ;) |
| 20:54.58 | straw | heheh |
| 20:54.59 | GraveDigger | k |
| 20:54.59 | GraveDigger | thx |
| 20:55.03 | annma | GraveDigger: no, not down at all |
| 20:55.04 | Blissex | Rebecca: http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxKDE.html#performance |
| 20:55.06 | Rebecca | Blissex: sorry, i missed that |
| 20:55.08 | Rebecca | oh |
| 20:55.10 | Rebecca | or not :) |
| 20:55.47 | Rebecca | Blissex: taken a peek at my desktop screen shots i posted earlier? |
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| 20:56.10 | Rebecca | my kde gui is run without a lot of the candyness.. so it's quite fast already |
| 20:56.12 | Blissex | Rebecca: no, just joined... |
| 20:56.15 | GraveDigger | damnit |
| 20:56.26 | GraveDigger | if i enter www.kde-look.org as url in konqi |
| 20:56.29 | GraveDigger | then google opens |
| 20:56.35 | GraveDigger | that suxx! |
| 20:56.36 | GraveDigger | :( |
| 20:56.37 | annma | GraveDigger: LOL |
| 20:56.59 | annma | GraveDigger: did you mess with konq web shortcuts recently? |
| 20:57.00 | Blissex | Rebecca: instead I saw <GraveDigger>'s snapshot, and that is ''ooooohhhh loook'' mode. |
| 20:57.14 | tambu | I could use some help.. when I startup kde3.5 it loads up the splash screen and freezes after partly opening a smaller window that says File Settings Help one time the title showed it was kmix , at this point kde locks up the mouse still moves but I can't do anything I have to hard-reset my laptop. |
| 20:57.19 | straw | Blissex, most of that is irrelevant on a fast box... |
| 20:57.26 | annma | tambu: is it a new user? |
| 20:57.31 | Rebecca | Blissex: ill make a new one. because it's slightly different now |
| 20:57.35 | GraveDigger | annma: no, this is a fresh installation of kde, i didnt even had a ~/.kde before |
| 20:57.40 | straw | with a graphics card from this decade |
| 20:57.52 | tambu | annma: sorry a new user? oh.. i see hrm.. you think i need to set a group on the user? |
| 20:57.53 | GraveDigger | Blissex: ? |
| 20:57.56 | annma | GraveDigger: distro? |
| 20:58.03 | tambu | annma: thats right.. you have to set it a sound group don't you? |
| 20:58.05 | GraveDigger | annma: suse linux 10.0 |
| 20:58.10 | GraveDigger | annma: with kde-3.5 supp |
| 20:58.13 | annma | tambu: your user that freezes, did it have a previous kde install? |
| 20:58.19 | Blissex | GraveDigger: I am crying over the «irrelevant on a fast box». |
| 20:58.26 | annma | GraveDigger: did you ask in #suse? |
| 20:58.35 | straw | heh ;) |
| 20:58.43 | tambu | anma: no this is a new clean install |
| 20:58.49 | GraveDigger | annma: not yet ... the problem came up only seconds ago |
| 20:58.51 | GraveDigger | :( |
| 20:58.55 | annma | tambu: distro? |
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| 20:59.08 | annma | GraveDigger: you mean it just appeared? |
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| 20:59.31 | Blissex | GraveDigger: http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/anno05-2nd.html#050512 and KDE is admittedly a bit better, but the social problem exists... |
| 20:59.58 | tambu | anma: gentoo |
| 21:00.06 | GraveDigger | annma: ack |
| 21:00.15 | annma | tambu: damn, did you get ALL of kde? |
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| 21:00.33 | annma | or split ebuilds (eeeerk) |
| 21:00.33 | tambu | anma full installation |
| 21:00.44 | annma | hmm, did you set KDEDIR? |
| 21:00.51 | Blissex | annma: that kernel/KDE developers earn 2-3x what I earn, so they can afford much faster PCs and stopped caring about memory/CPU usage about 7-8 years ago. |
| 21:01.11 | tambu | annma: no but it seems to be finding KDE |
| 21:01.23 | annma | tambu: so what is the tty output? |
| 21:01.31 | annma | Blissex: hardly |
| 21:01.39 | annma | Blissex: that's FUD |
| 21:01.49 | annma | kde runs on a 128Mb RAM |
| 21:02.01 | Blissex | annma: well, some KDE developers still do care, at least a bit more than the GNOME/kernel ones. |
| 21:02.13 | annma | all of them care |
| 21:02.14 | Blissex | annma: KDE _starts_ in 128MB. |
| 21:02.20 | tambu | annma: what tty output? it doesn't crash it just freezes in kde.. unless you mean on the console I start kde from.. I can check but I'll freeze and have to reboot do you want me too? |
| 21:02.20 | annma | it runs |
| 21:02.32 | annma | tambu: start from tty |
| 21:02.45 | GraveDigger | Blissex: i dont know what your problem is - i ran kde on a 1GHz machine with 256MB ram and it ran damned smoothly |
| 21:02.46 | Blissex | annma: problem is, I rencetly upgraded from 512MiB to 1GiB and things have improved _a lot_. |
| 21:02.52 | annma | Blissex: we spend a great deal caring about memory |
| 21:02.58 | Red_Cloud | I am a noob. I want to install the Moodin login screen. I have downloaded the tar.gz file and unzipped it. I think that I have followed the instructions to install this program. But when I open Control Center to select the Moodin splash screen, there is no file in the folder where Moodin resides that is recognized by the Control Center. Help? |
| 21:03.00 | annma | Blissex: comeon |
| 21:03.09 | annma | no kde devels have 1gb mem! |
| 21:03.17 | Blissex | GraveDigger: 256MiB is barely sufficient... |
| 21:03.18 | annma | you are kidding |
| 21:03.29 | Blissex | GraveDigger: and then it gets pretty terrible. |
| 21:03.30 | GraveDigger | Blissex: and btw: those kde developers DO care for resource consumption, as they intend to make kde less cpu AND memory hungry |
| 21:03.33 | tambu | annma: I'm sorry I don't follow.. you want me to start kde up? |
| 21:03.43 | annma | tambu: from terminal |
| 21:03.46 | GraveDigger | Blissex: no, 256MB is FULLY sufficient |
| 21:03.46 | annma | startx |
| 21:04.05 | Blissex | GraveDigger: but there is a difference as in ''care in theory'' and ''it will be slow on my PC so I really have to pay attention''. |
| 21:04.05 | annma | Blissex: you should change distro if yours is too demanding |
| 21:04.05 | tambu | annma: ok I'll be back in awhile :) gonna have to reboot |
| 21:04.13 | annma | no need to reboot |
| 21:04.18 | Rebecca | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v414/beccasfotos/20060129_desktop.png <- my current KDE GUI :) |
| 21:04.22 | annma | rebooting is a windows bad behaviour |
| 21:04.34 | Rebecca | hehe |
| 21:04.47 | GraveDigger | right now kde consumes around 300MB with X and lots of system services running, 5 virtual desktops, 8 konqui sessions with much more tabs open, amarok running and some more stuff |
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| 21:04.51 | Blissex | annma: GraveDigger: let say that I have spent a lot of time investigating memory issues, and I am still using KDE as it is the least bad. But the kernel and shared libs are the root of all evil. |
| 21:04.53 | GraveDigger | and it runs damn smoothly |
| 21:05.39 | Rebecca | Blissex: in my case firefox seems to be the root of memory issues |
| 21:05.46 | Blissex | GraveDigger: let's say that I had that in a 512MiB config yesterday and it was rather painful. With 1GiB today it is rather smooth.... |
| 21:05.48 | GraveDigger | firefox IS evil |
| 21:05.53 | straw | guess i'll join in the desktop snaps - http://straw.sh.nu/kde/KDE-snap.jpg :) |
| 21:05.57 | Rebecca | it's evil in the bestest way possible |
| 21:06.00 | Blissex | Rebecca: ahhhh Firefox indeed. But Konqueror too. |
| 21:06.07 | GraveDigger | Blissex: better lets say nothing more... |
| 21:06.11 | Blissex | Rebecca: my advice in that page is to restart them periodically. |
| 21:06.15 | GraveDigger | Blissex: that discussion is a waste of time |
| 21:06.30 | annma | Blissex: your system is badly installed as we KDE devels don't have 1gb RAM and we run KDE smoothly while compiling several progs all day |
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| 21:06.36 | Red_Cloud | I want to install the Moodin login screen. I have downloaded the tar.gz file and unzipped it. I think that I have followed the instructions to install this program. But when I open Control Center to select the Moodin splash screen, there is no file in the folder where Moodin resides that is recognized by the Control Center. Hel |
| 21:06.42 | Rebecca | straw: interesting :) |
| 21:06.45 | Red_Cloud | help? |
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| 21:07.01 | Rebecca | Blissex: yeah. firefox needs to be restated once every couple of days |
| 21:07.06 | Blissex | Rebecca: to do that with Konqueror, make sure it says ''save memory always''. |
| 21:07.09 | Skrot | http://stud.ntnu.no/~romnes/kubuntu.png - my KDE ;) |
| 21:07.18 | Rebecca | Blissex: i dont use konq |
| 21:07.19 | Skrot | Since it's the show-me-your-desktop-day :) |
| 21:07.34 | Blissex | Rebecca: I restart Firefox or Konqueror every few hours, every time they grow to more than 150-200MiB. |
| 21:07.37 | GraveDigger | Rebecca: ack, konqi does NOT |
| 21:07.53 | tambu | annma: ok I did startx and changed back to tty 1 and it actually loaded kde farther than every before started playing the startup wav.. and the tty had some error about DellMonitor the computer didn't freeze .. I tried changing to alt-f7 and the second I did everything frozen up again except the mouse |
| 21:07.54 | Rebecca | GraveDigger: does not what? |
| 21:08.04 | GraveDigger | Rebecca: eat up all your memory |
| 21:08.11 | tambu | annma: it seems it doesn't like something about my lcd monitor.. any pointer? |
| 21:08.24 | straw | annma: show me your desktop NOW! :P |
| 21:08.25 | annma | tambu: ask in #gentoo |
| 21:08.33 | Rebecca | GraveDigger: so? it's not going to change my choice of browsers ;P |
| 21:08.35 | annma | straw: just the bare kde defaults |
| 21:08.39 | tambu | annma: ok thanks |
| 21:08.40 | annma | nothing else |
| 21:08.46 | Rebecca | Blissex: so.. like my gui? ;) |
| 21:08.50 | GraveDigger | Rebecca: whatever - firefox still suxx |
| 21:09.01 | annma | straw: i am ungraphical and boring |
| 21:09.06 | straw | heheh |
| 21:09.07 | Rebecca | GraveDigger: whatever - wasnt asking your opinion ;P |
| 21:09.10 | Chryseus | show your desktop day eh? ok.. http://chryse.fiveam.org/kuvat/desktop4.png |
| 21:09.12 | GraveDigger | Rebecca: and your not the first one fully satisfied by crap |
| 21:09.19 | GraveDigger | sure |
| 21:09.29 | Skrot | Chryseus: clean :) |
| 21:09.35 | Blissex | Rebecca: a bit effeminate with all those pastel colors :-) |
| 21:09.41 | Skrot | And clean is good in my book |
| 21:09.44 | Chryseus | Skrot: just the way I like it :) |
| 21:10.02 | Blissex | Rebecca: also, using Firefox with KDE is not a good idea, because using Konqueror instead reduces memory usage a fair bit. |
| 21:10.18 | Chryseus | http://chryse.fiveam.org/kuvat/desktop6.jpg actually I have this clock added since that other snapshot |
| 21:10.18 | Rebecca | Blissex: well, there is a reason for that.. but it's a nice neutral shade regardless.. easy on the eyes |
| 21:10.21 | Rebecca | :) |
| 21:10.52 | Rebecca | Blissex: that might be true.. but im happy :) |
| 21:10.55 | sredna | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:11.22 | Chryseus | big :) |
| 21:11.30 | sredna | Uhm, sorry |
| 21:11.32 | annma | Chryseus: this clock is sweet! where is it from? |
| 21:11.35 | Skrot | Watching peoples desktop is fun.. such variations in taste :P |
| 21:11.40 | GraveDigger | annma: http://img494.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fuckit3ox.jpg <- that SUXX >:( |
| 21:11.47 | annma | Chryseus: I want it |
| 21:12.02 | Chryseus | annma: from kde-look.org I just changed the colour |
| 21:12.19 | Chryseus | let me check the package it was in |
| 21:12.24 | annma | thanks |
| 21:12.24 | straw | sredna: i think we're DoS'ing you :) |
| 21:12.45 | sredna | straw: It's a KPF, so it's doing quite well |
| 21:12.52 | annma | GraveDigger: new Suse? |
| 21:12.59 | Rebecca | oh.. i have a little question about the KDE clock. take a look at my desktop and you will notice a little gap between the date and the time.. is there a way to remove the gap? |
| 21:13.01 | straw | oh, there is is |
| 21:13.04 | annma | or it worked before and just happened now? |
| 21:13.11 | sredna | straw: It's using all the bandwidth I have |
| 21:13.15 | GraveDigger | annma: fresh install, as i said |
| 21:13.23 | annma | GraveDigger: so it never worked? |
| 21:13.35 | annma | so it's a suse problem |
| 21:13.51 | annma | did you look at the web shortcuts in konq settings? |
| 21:13.52 | Chryseus | annma: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=20847 |
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| 21:14.00 | Rebecca | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v414/beccasfotos/20060129_desktop.png <--- just in case you missed it |
| 21:14.10 | straw | sredna: what's that font in kate's doc side view? |
| 21:14.14 | annma | Chryseus: thanks! |
| 21:14.17 | Chryseus | np |
| 21:14.38 | GraveDigger | annma: doch doch, schon ... nur dann "auf einmal" ... ich wollte grad kde-look browsen, auf einmal n fehler, die resource sei auf google nich verfügbar, dann seite neu geladen und schwupp bin ich auf der google seite gelandet |
| 21:14.38 | Skrot | Rebecca: x-chat? ;) |
| 21:14.45 | sredna | straw: BenGuiat Bk BT |
| 21:14.47 | annma | GraveDigger: ???? |
| 21:14.52 | Rebecca | Skrot: what about it? |
| 21:15.04 | Skrot | Rebecca: Tried konversation? |
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| 21:15.09 | annma | GraveDigger: i don't speak german! |
| 21:15.25 | GraveDigger | annma: damn... im sorry |
| 21:15.27 | Rebecca | Skrot: im happy with x-chat :) |
| 21:15.33 | Skrot | okay =) |
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| 21:15.48 | GraveDigger | Rebecca: ever considered using gnome? |
| 21:15.48 | Rebecca | Skrot: know an answer to my clock question? |
| 21:15.51 | annma | GraveDigger: and ask in #suse |
| 21:15.58 | GraveDigger | annma: okay |
| 21:15.58 | Blissex | whining about memory use in KDE: http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/anno05-3rd.html#050905 |
| 21:16.01 | Skrot | Rebecca: Can't say I do, sorry :) |
| 21:16.13 | Rebecca | GraveDigger: i have tried different versions of gnome a few times, and much prefer KDE |
| 21:16.14 | annma | Rebecca: I doubt you can set it unless you hack the source |
| 21:16.30 | lgsobalvarro | hello, again |
| 21:16.39 | annma | I need to do some housework unfortunatel;y |
| 21:16.42 | Blissex | Rebecca: if you use all KDE programs it is a bit better for speed. Especially if you use 'kwrapper', 'kdeinit' and prelinking. |
| 21:16.49 | Rebecca | annma: oh well, it's a super duper minor thing anyway :) |
| 21:17.09 | Blissex | Rebecca: and I tries both X-Chat and several others, and I settled on Konversation, which is sort of an X-Chat clone. |
| 21:17.45 | straw | sredna: is that font free? |
| 21:17.52 | lgsobalvarro | konversation is nice :D |
| 21:18.13 | sredna | straw: I found it in a HUGE package of free (as in beer) fonts at kde-look |
| 21:18.29 | Rebecca | Blissex: ive got an amd64 3200. it runs my system very nicely.. no need to change my practices :) |
| 21:18.30 | annma | sredna: oh but not GPL? |
| 21:18.39 | straw | ah, ok. the 6000+ fonts package |
| 21:18.54 | sredna | annma: I think not, there are not that much information in that package |
| 21:19.00 | Blissex | straw: I doubt those are really free fonts _ I had a look and most were not. |
| 21:19.18 | annma | i looked for free (GPL) fonts on the internet but found only like 10 |
| 21:19.27 | annma | to ue in my KDE progs |
| 21:19.29 | annma | use |
| 21:19.36 | straw | Blissex: i'm not too concerned about that |
| 21:19.48 | annma | using them as a user is no problem |
| 21:19.52 | sredna | annma: You better look for some released under creative commons I believe |
| 21:19.59 | annma | including in KDE source is a problem |
| 21:20.09 | annma | sredna: even so |
| 21:20.20 | fredrikh | GPL doesn't really make much sense for a font |
| 21:20.22 | annma | the licence has to be included in the font |
| 21:20.35 | annma | free licence |
| 21:20.42 | straw | fonts.tar.gz (157.7MB) holy crap |
| 21:20.43 | annma | gpl ot other |
| 21:21.03 | sredna | Someday I will create my 'kont' font, which will replace a good deal of 'g's with 'k' or empty space, along with some 'c's |
| 21:21.11 | Blissex | list of really free etc. fonts here: http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxFonts.html |
| 21:21.17 | sredna | It will be GPL'd :o |
| 21:21.38 | annma | Blissex: I speak about fancy fonts |
| 21:21.38 | welp | hmmm |
| 21:21.53 | annma | not the common ones shipped with distros |
| 21:21.53 | welp | will the kernel switch to GPL3? |
| 21:21.57 | sredna | annma: It would be so cool to have some |
| 21:22.01 | Skrot | welp: Linus says no |
| 21:22.03 | annma | sredna: yes |
| 21:22.09 | fredrikh | welp: no... and that's not a KDE question |
| 21:22.19 | welp | Skrot, so i hear :S |
| 21:22.25 | Rebecca | thankyou all for your help |
| 21:22.32 | welp | fredrikh, hum... sorry... :S |
| 21:22.35 | Rebecca | especially Crissi ;) |
| 21:22.52 | Chryseus | sredna: kont.. lol |
| 21:22.53 | annma | you could do a channel hug |
| 21:23.06 | annma | we like collektive hugs |
| 21:24.14 | Rebecca | annma: Crissi helped me when i was at my most annoying and desperate.. i had broken KDE becuause of some dep issues |
| 21:24.32 | annma | ohh, Crissi is trully nice, I reckon |
| 21:25.23 | Rebecca | this little journey was initiated by a weird torrent file that bittornado didnt like.. so i thought i would install ktorrent... and broke my system, lol |
| 21:26.03 | annma | ;) |
| 21:26.11 | Chryseus | there's bittornado for linux? :/ |
| 21:26.23 | Blissex | Chryseus: its written in Python... |
| 21:26.53 | Chryseus | stupid me.. I was thinking of bitcomet :P |
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| 21:27.08 | Rebecca | hmm.. out of all the screen shots ive seen here, mine is one of the more conventional i think.. but it's certainly interesting to see what others work with :) |
| 21:27.10 | kommerck | may I ask an arts question? |
| 21:27.33 | kommerck | artsdsp stopped working for me and arts starts up very slowly after an upgrade to KDE 3.5 |
| 21:27.46 | kommerck | tried all possible output devices |
| 21:27.50 | kommerck | oss,alsa,jack. |
| 21:28.08 | annma | ok, i am out now, bye all |
| 21:28.14 | Rebecca | bye annma |
| 21:28.24 | Blissex | kommerck: did not happen here, but then sound issues are diabolical... |
| 21:28.49 | kommerck | hm, I was running TeamSpeak via artsdsp fine but now I get no sound. |
| 21:29.06 | kommerck | kinda of checkmate for a non hardware mixing card owner... |
| 21:30.38 | Chryseus | Rebecca: well.. isn't that the most interesting case study for usability people.. to see what everybody else does :) |
| 21:32.01 | Rebecca | Chryseus: it is indeed. in fact. one of the main reasons i switched from win98 to linux back in the day.. was because the windows interface was so terrible and ridgid |
| 21:32.15 | Crissi | :) |
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| 21:33.35 | Rebecca | btw: i love this new panel lock function ;) |
| 21:35.05 | Chryseus | why I love KDE.. I can do amazing stuff with it! :D |
| 21:35.10 | Sho_ | Rebecca: taken right from Windows ;) |
| 21:35.57 | Rebecca | Sho_: ill bet they stole it from xerox parc ;) |
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| 21:36.27 | Chryseus | One of the simplest things I like in kde is that I can press maximize button on window with 2nd or 3rd button.. to make it fullscreen only in width or height.. just awesome |
| 21:37.00 | Rebecca | Chryseus: omg, that's cool :D |
| 21:37.22 | Chryseus | it is! |
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| 21:38.08 | Chryseus | When I go to school and try to make that with those win xp computers I'm always like:"WTF.. why doesn't this work" :D |
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| 21:38.56 | Rebecca | hehe |
| 21:39.25 | tambu | Hey all my kde seems to halt and if i look at the console I get this continuous message: kded: ERROR: KMilo: Dell8kMonitor: ioctl failed in fn_status() |
| 21:40.35 | Chryseus | I'm off to bed.. G'night people |
| 21:40.45 | Rebecca | nite |
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| 21:42.46 | GraveDigger | is anyone here using kde with deKorator window decos??? |
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| 21:51.04 | hagayarou | weird, when I use the PlastiK window manager decoration, kmplayer's minimal mode has a smaller title bar, and the window scales to fit the video size. but when I use Polyester, the title bar size doesn't change and even the window size won't fit the video |
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| 21:52.34 | fredrikh | hagayarou: the application hints the window manager about what type of window it's created, so the style can choose to draw it differently for different windows |
| 21:52.55 | fredrikh | particularly tool windows are usually drawn with a smaller titlebar |
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| 21:55.39 | Rebecca | hahahaha.. after all that... the torrent file started working with bittornado (the torrent had both http and udp trackers, but the http ones were down and bittornado didnt like udp) |
| 21:56.30 | magyar | does anyone know why xmms-kde keeps crashing all the time? |
| 21:57.22 | kommerck | works fine here... |
| 21:57.27 | kommerck | kde version? |
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| 21:58.56 | magyar | debian sid amd64 kde 3.5.0 |
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| 21:59.21 | magyar | so does amarok, i cant get it to work for a past 1/2 year |
| 21:59.47 | superstoned | Starved for Oxygen |
| 21:59.47 | superstoned | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:59.47 | superstoned | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:00.24 | superstoned | nice one, tough i didn |
| 22:00.31 | superstoned | 't wanna post it here, sorry :D |
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| 22:01.16 | pinucset | is the last kde stable 3.5.1? |
| 22:01.49 | lgsobalvarro | pinucset: 3.5.0 |
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| 22:02.31 | SbCl3 | how do i configure Konsole so that it lets me scroll up as far as i want? (i'm trying to print out a large directory) |
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| 22:02.55 | Rebecca | superstoned: lol |
| 22:03.27 | bbeck | SbCl3: why not just redirect the output of ls to a file? |
| 22:03.54 | SbCl3 | oh, didn't know that was possible |
| 22:03.59 | SbCl3 | thanks |
| 22:05.07 | Red_Cloud | I want to install and use Moodin login splash on KDE. I have downloaded the tar.gz and followed the instructions to install it (I think). Whenever I point Control Center to the folder there are no files recognized by Control Center. Help? |
| 22:05.45 | lgsobalvarro | Red_Cloud: an KDM theme? |
| 22:06.00 | Rebecca | can i move a quick launch applet from one panel to another? it doesnt seem to let me.. but i thought i would check |
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| 22:06.17 | Sho_ | pinucset: 3.5.1 will be released soon, though |
| 22:06.21 | lgsobalvarro | yep you can Rebecca |
| 22:06.29 | Rebecca | lgsobalvarro: how? |
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| 22:07.21 | Rebecca | when i try dragging it displays an outlined drop box type thing on the target panel, but it doesnt move |
| 22:07.22 | Red_Cloud | lgsobalvarro, it is a theme engine and screen available on kde-look.org |
| 22:07.46 | DracoDan | my sata raid card gives the best message EVER during post: |
| 22:07.48 | DracoDan | "press any key to pause, press any other key to continue" |
| 22:07.48 | lgsobalvarro | click in the applet handle and move it to the other panel |
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| 22:08.09 | Rebecca | lgsobalvarro: hmmm, doesnt work |
| 22:08.17 | Red_Cloud | The moodin engine is supposed to work on KDE. I am a noob and have not been able to get the Moodin login-screen to work. |
| 22:08.39 | lgsobalvarro | click in the applet handle and move it to the other panel, then drop it |
| 22:08.47 | superstoned | rebecca: doesn't work here, too - it once did, i remember. i think someone broke it... (i run kde 3.5.1SVN) |
| 22:09.00 | Rebecca | lgsobalvarro: ok, that's really weird.. i tried it like 10 times doing the same thing and eventually it did.. might be sensitive as to where exactly it's placed |
| 22:09.14 | bbeck | Red_Cloud: Have you checked if your distro has moodin as an installable package, Kubuntu does. |
| 22:09.40 | Rebecca | superstoned: keep trying, lol |
| 22:09.45 | superstoned | i do :D |
| 22:09.51 | Rebecca | lol |
| 22:09.58 | Red_Cloud | I have check the dist packages and it is not included. |
| 22:10.21 | lgsobalvarro | Rebecca: wear ? but it's work in 3.5 |
| 22:10.45 | Rebecca | lgsobalvarro: it worked eventually.. but it was picky. |
| 22:11.18 | lgsobalvarro | yep |
| 22:11.48 | Rebecca | i was dragging it properly. each time it had one of those rectangles indicating where it should drop when i release the mouse, but until my last attempt it just snapped back |
| 22:12.39 | Skrot | hmm.. 0.00 load while running KDE is pretty good? :p |
| 22:12.49 | lgsobalvarro | Red_Cloud: but it is a KDM theme or what is it? |
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| 22:15.59 | Rebecca | hmmm, i just discovered something really annoying.. not sure if it is a KDE thing or a firefox thing: since middle/right clicking the maximise button to change the way a firefox window maximised it has become 'stuck' on only ~70 horizontal maximisation by default |
| 22:17.09 | sredna | Rebecca: That is handled by the wm, in kde kwin pr default |
| 22:17.21 | Rebecca | hmmm, ok |
| 22:17.35 | sredna | Rebecca: And you just need to click the maximize button again |
| 22:17.43 | bbeck | lgsobalvarro: moodin is a splash screen engine (http://moodwrod.com/) |
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| 22:18.05 | Rebecca | sredna: if i max it, then kill it, the start it again it's still got the problem |
| 22:18.22 | Rebecca | sredna: is it supposed to be persistant like that? |
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| 22:18.36 | lgsobalvarro | ok bbeck tnx i'll check it |
| 22:19.26 | smithjd | any news on the official 3.5.1 release? |
| 22:19.45 | Red_Cloud | lgsobalvarro, here is what I have on this: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=25705 |
| 22:20.40 | pinucset | i dont know why but my kcontrol says that i have 3.5.1 in my debian unstable :S |
| 22:20.41 | sredna | Rebecca: I'm afraid I dont' quite understand the problem. Nothing appears to get stuck here. |
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| 22:21.23 | Rebecca | sredna: ok |
| 22:21.45 | Johann_ | hi |
| 22:21.49 | lgsobalvarro | Red_Cloud: how do you install it? |
| 22:21.53 | Johann_ | is there any dev here |
| 22:21.56 | lgsobalvarro | hello Johann_ |
| 22:22.01 | Johann_ | hello |
| 22:22.27 | lgsobalvarro | Johann_: in #kde-dev ;) |
| 22:22.36 | Johann_ | ok |
| 22:22.50 | Johann_ | thanks |
| 22:23.18 | Johann_ | oh, there are nobody on kde-dev |
| 22:23.23 | lgsobalvarro | ehm |
| 22:23.52 | lgsobalvarro | join plasma |
| 22:24.07 | smithjd | pinucset: woot. so i can pilfer the tarballs from the debian repositories for my gentoo boxes =) |
| 22:24.10 | hagayarou | fredrikh: what about the window size? shouldn't it be decided by the application? |
| 22:24.17 | lgsobalvarro | try in #plasma Johann_ |
| 22:24.27 | Red_Cloud | I have opened with konqueror in root |
| 22:24.28 | Skrot | #kde-devel |
| 22:24.42 | Skrot | Johann_: Thats the "official" kde devel channel |
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| 22:24.57 | fredrikh | hagayarou: sure, if the window can't be resized, it's because the application has told the window manager not to let the user do that |
| 22:25.05 | Red_Cloud | lgsobzlvarro, I have opened with kinqueror in root |
| 22:25.09 | Johann_ | yes, more people on kde-devel, thanks |
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| 22:25.55 | anabain | should amaroK support this adresses? http://www.rtve.es/rne/audio/sr2w.htm http://www.rtve.es/rne/audio/sr2r.htm |
| 22:25.57 | hagayarou | fredrikh: in the minimal mode of Kmplayer, the window can be resized, but it's not automatically resized to fit the video in Polyester windec, but it is in plastiK |
| 22:25.59 | Red_Cloud | lgsobzlvarro, is there a way to click on your nick to insert your nick in the reply field? you have the longest nick and takes quite a bit of typing to address you |
| 22:26.04 | lgsobalvarro | and? Red_Cloud you must compile it |
| 22:27.40 | fredrikh | hagayarou: oh sorry, i thought you were talking about it working in one app, but not another |
| 22:28.14 | Red_Cloud | to compile I followed the instructions in the readme. they were "untar the package 'login-scan-fusion.tar.bz2'" |
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| 22:28.29 | PhilRod | Red_Cloud: do you mean nick completion? (type part of the nick, then press tab) |
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| 22:29.23 | fredrikh | hagayarou: that sounds like it might be a bug in polyester, but that's a 3rd party style, not something we ship with kde |
| 22:29.31 | hagayarou | ok |
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| 22:29.49 | Red_Cloud | lgsobzlvarro, `cd' to the directory containing the package's source code and type |
| 22:29.51 | Red_Cloud | lgsobalvarro `./configure' to configure the package for your system. |
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| 22:30.44 | Red_Cloud | lgsobalvarro, 2. Type `make' to compile the package. (this part I could not complete bacause of my ignorance) |
| 22:30.54 | lgsobalvarro | yep Red_Cloud .. next make and finally "make install" (ass root) |
| 22:32.11 | Red_Cloud | lgsobalvarro, I am so new to Linux that I do not know how to "make" and "make install". I cd to the directory but cannot get it to do anything with the commands "make" etc. |
| 22:32.57 | lgsobalvarro | Red_Cloud: type make into moodin directory |
| 22:33.47 | Red_Cloud | it says "no targets specified |
| 22:33.51 | hagayarou | oh, actually there isn't a problem with resizing, kmplayer was just behaving weird and not autosizing just now |
| 22:34.21 | hagayarou | Red_Cloud: is there a Makefile in the current directory? |
| 22:34.30 | Red_Cloud | yes |
| 22:34.56 | hagayarou | hmm...try 'make all' |
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| 22:35.00 | hagayarou | are you on Linux? |
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| 22:56.12 | tonsofpcs | is there a way to temporarily disable the X-based keyboard shortcuts (like virtual desktop switching, application switching, etc.)? |
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| 23:31.19 | miccet | kde 3.5.0, in "choose wallpaper dialog" is there any way of taking the preview away permanently? |
| 23:33.00 | pusling | is there somekindof tv viewer for kde ? |
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| 23:33.37 | yoruichi | pusling: kdetv? |
| 23:34.04 | pusling | can I via dcop send 'change channel' to kdetv ? (how?) |
| 23:34.19 | annma | do you have kdetv installed and running? |
| 23:34.47 | pusling | hmm.. nope. is it a native kde thing ? or some extra app? |
| 23:35.24 | annma | to have dcop you need to have the prog running |
| 23:35.45 | annma | i don't have it so i canot say its capabilities |
| 23:37.14 | pusling | hmm.. no kdetv debian package. then I might go download and built it first |
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| 23:50.19 | pusling | hmm.. building kdetv ,) |
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| 23:59.20 | _alessandro | hi all |
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